[2022] Lobby Legends - Noblegarden Top 8 | Hearthstone Dev Tracker

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817s	love to see the early snipe and if you
819s	can really snipe the kangaroos and
820s	there's no space what you did
822s	so only two minions summon only one
825s	omega buster uh the problem is can we
828s	get the plants to knock off the divine
830s	shields that is the dream for collins
833s	right
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841s	now and the baron is out melissa i think
845s	we have a champion we do
848s	be nice over here we get to see his
850s	perspective
852s	we get to see our first lobby legends
856s	winner
867s	hello everyone and welcome back to
870s	hearthstone lobby legends noble garden
873s	we're on day two now and we are gonna
875s	end the day by crowning a champion for
877s	the second lobby legends tournament it's
880s	gonna be absolutely fantastic and i'm
881s	raven and joining me of course is subtle
883s	to bring you all the action so we had a
885s	quite crazy day yesterday with
887s	effectively the introduction of naga to
890s	competitive play and uh we saw it a
892s	couple of times i think it's fair to say
894s	right now
895s	yeah one or two there were a few games
898s	quite heavily defined by naga i think
900s	it's fair to say
902s	um certainly i think took us all the way
904s	until the very last game of the day game
907s	three and lobby b
909s	to really see kind of any effective
912s	counter strategy and even then it's like
914s	a counter strategy that allows you to
916s	survive till top two top three most of
918s	the time right otherwise yeah it has
920s	been very much defined so far by naga
923s	and then kind of poison counters to that
925s	as well because
927s	with how much power and scaling and
929s	divine shield availability that naga
931s	have available to them it is very
932s	difficult to compete with that staff for
934s	stat on the other side
936s	yeah and yesterday just give you a quick
937s	briefing of what happened uh we did have
940s	two separate lobbies of eight players
942s	each play out three games within each
945s	group and then the top four from each
946s	group have progressed to today but
948s	subtle today's a little bit different as
950s	a format we're not just playing three
952s	games and then calling it a day with the
954s	highest points total and what are we
956s	doing to find our champion
959s	we are playing check format raven uh
962s	which we saw the debut of uh last time
965s	with gia and slicer and with be nice in
968s	battlegrounds lobby legends one where uh
971s	so essentially the format means that
972s	players play for the same number of
974s	points as usual as we've been seeing um
977s	but once their cumulative point total
979s	hits 20 they are then able to win the
982s	lobby but they must win an actual game
986s	of battlegrounds finish in first place
989s	after they have reached 20 points to
991s	become the champion of the tournament
992s	which i think is going to be a pretty
995s	interesting way to round things off we
997s	saw it happen in very very rapid fashion
1000s	last time around with be nice taking it
1002s	down in i believe five total games last
1005s	time around which is a very very quick
1007s	outcome we would expect on average uh to
1009s	see more games than that today and i
1011s	would hope to see a few more games than
1012s	that as well today so we can really uh
1015s	sink our teeth into this top eight that
1017s	we have
1018s	yeah although the overall format has
1020s	changed a little bit for today uh to get
1022s	our champion the points totals do not
1025s	right it's still the same amount of
1027s	points it's just the key thing is
1029s	getting to 20 as quick as possible to
1032s	unlock that potential win for each
1034s	player as it happens so uh of course uh
1037s	i think for the first three you know
1039s	games or so players will be looking at
1042s	just trying to just
1044s	do obviously do as well as possible go
1045s	for those first places but we will see
1047s	very quickly like the different levels
1050s	of break points to just get 20 or above
1052s	right and maybe see players trying to
1054s	just towards like game three maybe like
1056s	what number do they need to hit 20 as a
1059s	minimum so then after that the whole
1062s	game is unlocked for them going forward
1064s	checking out the prize pool of course
1066s	first place up there ten thousand
1068s	dollars and i think as i mentioned
1070s	yesterday
1071s	my expectation is we will as lobby
1074s	legends continue see a lot of repeat
1076s	players here in these tournaments so
1078s	that number will start to stack up once
1080s	these players can just you know come
1082s	back again and again and uh compete for
1084s	this amount of money
1086s	yeah for sure um a huge amount of money
1089s	put into the
1091s	uh
1092s	the
1093s	season as a whole over the entire year
1095s	the series of backgrounds events in
1097s	general was going to be a big deal for a
1099s	lot of these players and battlegrounds
1101s	players were clamoring to you know being
1104s	included in the hearthstone esports
1105s	ecosystem for quite some time and now
1107s	they absolutely are i think the first
1110s	event was a big success i think the
1112s	second one is now proving to be so as
1114s	well um so long may it continue looking
1116s	forward to a lot more of competitive
1118s	battlegrounds to come and a lot more
1119s	opportunities for many of these players
1122s	and many others and even you at home we
1124s	have just had a very recent mmr ladder
1127s	reset so you know now's as good a time
1129s	as any to start climbing up that
1131s	leaderboard and getting yourself into a
1132s	top 16 position to potentially qualify
1134s	for one of these lobby legends events in
1136s	the future
1137s	yeah and i did mention we saw a lot of
1139s	naga doing well as you can see on screen
1142s	now this is a recap from yesterday
1145s	and i will say out of this lobby itself
1148s	and i think uh alucard impressed me a
1150s	lot but also a ganesha who's a player i
1153s	honestly do not know a lot about going
1155s	into this tournament i thought he played
1157s	very very well indeed knew exactly what
1160s	he needed to do and achieved the goal
1162s	and actually made it there so very
1164s	impressive overall but as you can see a
1166s	lot of discussion that we had yesterday
1168s	was how uh efficiently can these players
1171s	get to talented six or at least triple
1174s	into a6 to potentially unlock that ather
1177s	as the key priority goal and if that
1180s	doesn't happen what's the recovery plan
1183s	you know can they survive long enough to
1185s	actually still catch up because one
1187s	thing that's scary with the majority of
1188s	the lobby going for the same tier 6
1190s	minion well there's only so many in a
1193s	lobby or in a game of battlegrounds
1195s	right so you need to get hold of them
1197s	very very quickly indeed and if not
1200s	you've got to hope to just survive long
1201s	enough to just gain a point here gain a
1203s	point there
1204s	yeah we saw this in various stages
1206s	throughout the body meta as well like it
1209s	was not uncommon for example for a
1212s	flergle to get to tavern six and then
1214s	use their body expecting to be able to
1216s	roll six drops into amalgadon's
1219s	guaranteed and then have nothing happen
1221s	when they're actually able to do that
1222s	because every amalgadon has already been
1224s	taken out of the game by the point they
1226s	get to do it that's very similar to the
1229s	situation we have if it happens arguably
1232s	even quicker with the amount of
1234s	um
1236s	power levelers to six that we have and
1238s	the amount of extra discovery options
1240s	that you have to find these extra this
1242s	is you can deplete the pool very rapidly
1245s	so if you are the player behind it's not
1247s	certainly certainly not rare to be in
1249s	the position where you get like the
1251s	orgazoa early and then if you miss on a
1253s	thesis from a turn or two from there
1256s	you're suddenly three or four turns
1257s	later being like why i missed like nine
1260s	times looking for a thister and i've
1262s	rolled like 30 gold on tavern six and i
1265s	haven't found one like where are they
1266s	all and then suddenly you know you get
1269s	into top three top two and then finally
1271s	find the player who just has six
1273s	officers on their board already and oh
1275s	okay yeah this makes sense it is a
1277s	limited pool um and it's weird because
1279s	the meta is so warped
1281s	that we've been seeing things that are
1283s	honestly like kind of scrub bait usually
1286s	which you know you sometimes get like
1288s	newer players asking like oh is it right
1290s	to just like buy the good minions so
1292s	other people can't have them even if
1294s	it's not useful for me and normally the
1296s	answer to that is no but i've even seen
1298s	games recently where like dog was
1299s	playing murlocs and won a lobby by
1301s	playing murlocs but had like every
1304s	officer in the game in his hand also at
1307s	the end just so no one else could have
1309s	them which is hilarious but that is kind
1312s	of where we're at with the game but this
1313s	is where we're at with the tournament a
1315s	fantastic looking top eight overall
1317s	that's the top four players from lobby a
1319s	top four players from lobby b yesterday
1321s	coming in to make a fantastic looking
1323s	top eight overall for today raven yeah
1326s	some really big highlight players here
1327s	and honestly all of them impressed
1328s	yesterday all dragon was definitely a
1331s	standout for how he piloted and how he
1333s	played the tournament game not only the
1335s	actual game of battlegrounds itself and
1338s	also we have max 7k who is a returning
1341s	player from the previous lobby legends
1343s	tournament hitting top eight now like
1345s	already as i you know mentioned the
1347s	start of the show yesterday we're
1348s	starting to see these repeat players and
1351s	i think that will definitely continue
1353s	going forward so a lot of exciting stuff
1355s	to come up especially because i think
1357s	you know as you mentioned before we
1359s	don't necessarily know how many games
1361s	we're gonna actually be playing or
1362s	talking about today and there is that
1365s	base minimum of course where well at
1367s	least one player does have to get to 20
1369s	points first
1370s	but beyond that beyond like the be nice
1373s	record i guess uh it could go on for a
1376s	lot longer right there can be many more
1378s	games where the players are battling for
1380s	that and something i did speak to um
1382s	before we went live today was
1384s	in this specific meta once you have
1387s	unlocked and put the lobby in check at
1389s	that 20 points it does feel like your
1392s	goal is very straightforward indeed one
1395s	can you get a powerful hero like i think
1397s	for me one of the members of the thieves
1399s	guild would be the hero i would want to
1401s	see when i'm going for that win right
1403s	like any of the characters that can just
1405s	steal minions from opponents warbands or
1407s	anything like that is priority for me i
1410s	think those are the characters i've seen
1411s	have the most success overall and then
1414s	you look at you know some of the usual
1415s	top tier characters such as galakrond
1417s	and then you know arguably ashara we can
1419s	talk more about ashara's ups and downs
1422s	today as we go but already so wow just
1424s	like that i wanted to talk a little bit
1425s	more but uh the players care not for my
1428s	desires and we're gonna go straight into
1429s	game number one alucard already locked
1432s	in the scabs i see an omu there a vulgin
1435s	and ashara like
1438s	we've got some top tier heroes in here
1440s	top tier heroes top tier heroes in here
1442s	already
1444s	in
1445s	deed yes uh
1448s	lots of game-winning potential that
1451s	we're seeing already uh rat king thrown
1453s	in there as well which um weirdly is a
1456s	hero that i have seen popping up in high
1459s	mmr lobbies uh there's a few players who
1462s	have racking as a potential uh pocket
1464s	pick overall which i do find a little
1466s	bit strange but perhaps i am missing
1469s	something there but outside of that yeah
1471s	the usual suspects omu scabs queen
1474s	ashara vol'jin these are all absolutely
1477s	great picks and then a few more say
1479s	feast or famine heroes with the gallywix
1482s	for sao king and the reno for all dragon
1485s	definitely game-winning potential but
1486s	also more top eight potential i would
1488s	say than the others that i mentioned
1489s	previously
1491s	um so interesting to see where things
1493s	are gonna kick off here and we are gonna
1495s	start with that rat king getting off to
1497s	a reasonable start and then jump right
1499s	over to uh larinda's favorite thing
1502s	which is zixo being dealt damage and
1504s	caused generally
1506s	yeah i mean sixo did depict the one two
1508s	right going into this so he knows what
1509s	sophia will want to look at uh levelling
1512s	in the very near future as omu it's one
1513s	thing you can do or the main thing you
1515s	should do right which is just
1517s	pressure in the the leveling right just
1519s	pre keep pressing that tap and tear up
1522s	until you can get into tier six the
1524s	trick though is making sure you can do
1526s	that without taking 1 million damage
1529s	super early but all of this value
1531s	he's getting his um we'll help him do
1534s	the leveling side but will it help him
1536s	fend off some damage i'm not sure but we
1538s	are going to find out yeah i like the
1540s	greed uh possibly means a little bit of
1542s	extra damage he would have checked the
1544s	scabs on the other side and seen what's
1546s	going on which i can now do as well
1548s	uh which would have seen that the scabs
1550s	have stayed on one uh and was
1552s	registering i imagine as originally the
1555s	ellie so he felt that he was going to
1557s	lose this fight anyway by not using the
1559s	blood gems picking up this elemental uh
1561s	cats just randomly having a fight in the
1564s	background as we go away go back i want
1566s	to say no forget the winner of this
1567s	fight i want to see the winner of the
1569s	cat fight lorena come on you know come
1571s	on
1573s	we're here now seriously no we're not
1575s	[Laughter]
1578s	um unbelievable honestly
1582s	i saw one bottom left oh it's the okay
1585s	quake again all right resolved that's
1588s	fine
1589s	happy now well 60 is doing the quick
1593s	leveling as expected but you know what
1594s	surprises him in the most asl is look
1596s	how many players have sat on one so far
1600s	the top four are on still to having tier
1602s	one like that is not something you see
1604s	super often at least in the lobbies i
1606s	play out we see sal king here on the
1607s	gallywix with yeah staying on one but
1610s	getting a ton of value the two put bots
1613s	i think were his first two minions uh on
1616s	board and now he's got the uh the tavern
1618s	reduction with those two twos as well so
1621s	um yeah not necessarily
1623s	strictly strong but the plan is clearly
1626s	there for salking yeah so my cab session
1629s	aside i am actually quite happy that we
1631s	dipped back into xo there because that
1633s	was a super interesting line with this
1634s	elemental using this elemental double
1636s	cell plus the omu ability to level and
1638s	buy a two drop in the same turn
1640s	um but the tavern one factor here is
1643s	really interesting as well because i
1645s	think this lobby makeup does lead itself
1647s	to tavern one a little bit to warrior
1649s	curve a little a little bit i'm not by
1651s	any means a huge fan of warrior curve
1654s	outside of the buddy meta now i think
1657s	um
1658s	buddy meta suited warrior very nicely
1661s	because you got a lot of damage in play
1662s	early and you won fights and you could
1664s	scale with chroma wings and all that
1665s	kind of stuff early on
1667s	however warrior curve was almost
1670s	invented as a reno solution pre-buddy
1673s	right because reno wants to do two
1675s	things defend health early and then
1678s	triple into big drops that they can use
1681s	the hero power on that's the things that
1683s	warrior curve does effectively so you're
1685s	seeing exactly that from all dragon you
1687s	limit the pull you stay on one you're
1689s	only looking at a handful of different
1691s	minions possible to roll you're very
1693s	likely to hit a triple you use those
1695s	early tempo minions to win fights and
1697s	defend your health and then you level
1698s	level level into whatever the point you
1700s	want is and then go for the golden right
1701s	that worked out so beautifully for reno
1704s	almost why the curve existed in the
1706s	first place
1707s	outside of that
1708s	the other heroes like gallywix and so on
1710s	staying on tavern one you can argue that
1713s	makes sense in this lobby as well
1714s	because with both ellie's and pirates in
1717s	economy heroes can make up that economy
1720s	by staying on tavern one right and
1722s	picking up tavern discounts with the
1723s	swabbies and this elementals as well
1726s	gallywix in particular can make that
1728s	gold back so so quickly uh so
1730s	interesting as you said to point out
1732s	that so many people were staying down on
1734s	tavern one but now this is the turn
1736s	right you'll see the entire lobby sync
1738s	up on uh tavern three as almost every
1742s	curve in the game meets up on tavern
1745s	three this turn
1746s	and we're seeing uh max
1749s	start to build up the board a little bit
1751s	with ashara cards don't you make me a
1754s	liar a la card press that button
1756s	i know i'm scared so i can do what i
1758s	want
1759s	use my opponent's minions why do i need
1761s	to tap into it
1763s	whoa
1764s	speaking of which i said gallywix would
1766s	be able to pick up that economy and
1768s	absolutely sour kings done that both
1771s	sauking and zixo have gone to four
1775s	on seven gold so there is actually a
1777s	much larger amount of desync than i
1779s	would have expected alucard does now
1780s	join the party on tavern three as well
1783s	but zixo and sauerking
1785s	i mean look at the lobby makeup it tells
1787s	the story right two characters two
1790s	players on tavern four right now and
1792s	they are the players who have sacrificed
1794s	the most health to get there in the
1795s	first place currently standing at the
1797s	bottom one thing i will say though
1798s	especially as we see now south king's
1800s	board and sharp he has a triple option
1803s	he's going into eight next turn so he
1805s	can easily just level next turn and then
1808s	take the damage again uh depending on
1810s	how much now i guess and then
1812s	potentially go for that early triple
1814s	bear in mind as well he is gallywix
1816s	there's a very good chance he sold
1817s	minions this year and that who leveled
1819s	to four in the first place so he might
1822s	just be who probably in fact is able to
1824s	just straight up take the six drop next
1825s	term from this position that is true i'm
1827s	not sure how much he sold or didn't sell
1829s	here hopefully we can find out very
1832s	well what do we get
1834s	yeah okay interesting
1839s	yep cycle the gambler no absolutely no
1841s	reason to ever not do that as gallywix
1844s	and now it's just that question right
1846s	double sell for a six right now he is
1848s	he's doing it now okay yep gotta do it
1850s	and the thing is
1851s	that the big deal here is he's on 24 he
1854s	simply cannot die and he
1857s	okay and
1859s	this
1860s	at least at surface level is just
1863s	looking at it as a raw battlegrounds
1865s	board right you might think you're just
1867s	going to get hit twice very hard that
1869s	might well happen
1871s	but we've seen something like this
1872s	happen before where the board looks so
1874s	weak but it has an ethissa and next turn
1876s	for salking because you'll have a couple
1878s	of extra gold as well right you'll have
1880s	12 gold next turn yeah so he will be
1882s	able to almost certainly generate a
1885s	respectable board and if any of those
1887s	are spellcraft naga then he will just be
1890s	big enough to fend off most of the
1892s	aggression from the other players so
1894s	that was a really really big payoff
1896s	there but it's exactly what sarking was
1898s	playing for right it's how he chose to
1900s	play gallywix it's how he chose when to
1902s	level he hit the triple ticking all of
1904s	the boxes we have a good jump too i'm
1906s	saying now and a bit more of a slower
1908s	progression here and i did want to ask
1910s	you about gail wink in general uh in
1912s	this sort of new meta because i feel
1914s	like going's gone very up and down in
1916s	its history of power level um what do
1919s	you think of it at the moment is there a
1921s	guaranteed curve do you get the minion
1923s	first and then go for the tavente
1925s	reduction is it all about going straight
1927s	for reduction and trying to power level
1929s	now like what's the general plan that
1931s	you found
1932s	honestly draven for the first time in
1934s	this event i'm going to have to say to
1936s	you i don't really know i haven't played
1938s	a single gallywix oh sorry i haven't
1940s	played a single gale wing game in this
1942s	new meta yeah i've got more experience
1944s	than you you apparently do yeah um i've
1946s	certainly seen the hero doing very well
1949s	in some of my lobbies it definitely has
1950s	that potential even though
1952s	the
1953s	leveling option on the hero power has
1955s	been nerfed from what it once was it
1957s	does still give a great ability to be
1959s	able to pump up through the tears if you
1960s	really want to there are particular
1961s	curves that take advantage of that as
1963s	well so i would imagine it's fairly well
1965s	positioned but yeah just don't have the
1967s	experience not going to make stuff up
1968s	because i don't need to
1970s	hi you're not using my trick um
1974s	yeah i've been playing gallywix uh i'm
1976s	saying gallywix now gail winger a
1978s	reasonable amount and just because of
1981s	this exact meta we're in i did find
1984s	myself just going straight for reduction
1986s	and really going aggressive and then
1988s	leveling up and it felt pretty good
1990s	because you almost get a free level
1992s	right it's it's close enough uh so yeah
1995s	it felt pretty good to get there it's
1997s	just about you know not taking enough
1999s	damage but i guess the old dragon have a
2002s	much less uh joyful choice from history
2006s	yeah and south king had i don't even
2009s	know where you start here maybe it's
2011s	early enough for like a base faux reaper
2013s	to do enough
2015s	at the moment but it's nothing he wants
2016s	to golden um while or dragon is taking a
2019s	month over this decision uh alucard has
2022s	also tripled into double sixes with
2025s	scabs um picked up as well but i would
2027s	like to go back and see sal king's board
2030s	at this point because i think this is an
2031s	extremely crucial moment uh yeah okay
2034s	absolutely no surprise actually slight
2037s	surprise here i would have thought if my
2040s	calculation was correct and he had 12
2042s	gold in this position which i might have
2043s	been wrong on i would have expected to
2045s	just see quad buy on the on whatever
2048s	shop he saw right just buy four minions
2050s	to have a six million board in this
2052s	position and but it appears that that
2054s	has not happened and now he is leaving
2056s	himself potentially vulnerable to death
2065s	that is it buying the dust yep gets
2067s	damaged capped but he is going to be the
2069s	fat eighth player in this position but
2071s	now
2072s	here i would say is our game bully for
2075s	this particular game because not only is
2077s	that faux reaper there there is an orga
2079s	zoa alongside that as well now you see
2082s	and a closed scale thrown in there as
2084s	well so this is looking fantastic for
2087s	alucard from this point i just feel like
2090s	it's cheating isn't it orga zoa and
2092s	scabs hero power in in the current meta
2095s	is like give me all of the naga in the
2097s	game please and then some uh pretty uh
2100s	scary overall of this discover not
2103s	fantastic
2105s	so from the gale wing opponent right now
2108s	the only really big hits are lava lurker
2110s	and minnie myrmidon there's nothing huge
2112s	hanging out on yonsei's board right now
2115s	he has just picked up a couple of arches
2117s	but they would not have been eligible to
2119s	be found from the scabs hero power this
2121s	turn as it snapshots the previous board
2124s	uh so decisions to be made here from
2126s	alucard and i don't think this is as
2129s	straightforward a choice as many people
2131s	might think it is by the way i hate to
2134s	suggest this so but i'm half staring at
2135s	the jug i know so i think
2138s	i don't think any of these three choices
2141s	are strictly illegal in this position uh
2143s	jug is fantastic tempo when you have the
2146s	faux reaper on board lava lurker is lava
2149s	lurker i think everyone kind of knows
2150s	the generic strength of that card i was
2153s	working hard yesterday to present the
2155s	counter argument that it does eat a
2157s	space on your board that's not being
2159s	used by spellcraft and therefore not
2161s	procking siren not procking ather so on
2163s	so on i think it costs you stats overall
2166s	over the course of the game to have a
2167s	lava lurker on your board mini mermaid
2170s	of course was the smallest the least
2172s	immediate tempo potentially but it is a
2175s	spellcraft minion that will proc
2177s	spellcraft stuff when you get to that
2178s	point in the game so i think they were
2180s	all justifiable picks this one however
2183s	murders your opponent because it
2184s	arguably keeps two six drops alive at
2187s	the end of the fight right which is huge
2189s	because damage cap is removed which
2191s	means two six drops alive means you've
2194s	just killed another player this turn
2196s	that is a huge role for the scabs gale
2199s	wing now biting the dust as well yeah
2201s	and it looks like a shower is going to
2203s	go down as well here right 17 yeah that
2205s	was enough and wow this escalated
2209s	very quickly indeed six so actually
2212s	ending up with a bit of a mixed bag of a
2214s	board but one thing that ties it all
2216s	together extremely aggressive with that
2219s	huge uh bunker as well on there the the
2222s	big enough fair brute as well just
2224s	pushing enough damage through and this
2226s	is
2228s	i'm not going to say like the the
2229s	counter because again we can talk about
2232s	this in general but like the natural
2234s	progression of if everyone's expected to
2237s	heavy level and go for like the sixes
2239s	early if you can kind of keep up but win
2242s	every single turn as well in the fight
2244s	with highly aggressive minions you will
2246s	start bullying these players out
2248s	met crawl was found there on that final
2250s	roll very nice golden hog are now being
2253s	hit by the by all dragon on reno very
2257s	very interesting indeed golden hogger
2260s	with an agum as well so this is
2262s	potentially infinite money engine with
2265s	stat scaling like this is almost more of
2267s	a milhouse strat at this point than it
2269s	is for a regular character will be
2271s	interesting to see if that again sticks
2273s	around now you can of course use
2275s	infinite money on anything you want it
2277s	doesn't just have to be on making your
2279s	uh pirates individually bigger with
2281s	salty looters peggies whatever else you
2282s	want super interesting
2284s	we have seen old dragon already show
2286s	that he is not scared to do something
2288s	it's got a bit different right
2290s	it's gone
2294s	looks like this is going to be full
2296s	focus mode on the pirates
2302s	keep that cleveland play for now as well
2308s	oh
2309s	the the faux reaper got bigger
2313s	that's got wind fury as well
2315s	that's got windows 35 attack full reaper
2319s	okay that was actually a huge trade
2321s	that's not the huge trade though that
2323s	needed to find some value trades not
2325s	smack just immediately into the biggest
2328s	minion on the other side he takes off
2330s	some damage but he had the big
2332s	opportunity i think to actually win that
2334s	fight and deal some damage the other way
2336s	after the faux reaper winfury attacks
2339s	happened on the other side i think he
2340s	was in a really good spot but i imagine
2342s	he did start the fight pretty heavily
2344s	unfavored yeah we see a dappy as well on
2346s	the rat king take uh i think
2348s	approximately 10 damage as well i think
2350s	all four players at the top were on
2351s	30ish and he's down to 20 now so he took
2354s	a hit as well looks like yeah janice on
2357s	the vol jin is has had to jump over to
2360s	the mex and uh what a strange ball to
2362s	look at at this stage in the game so i
2365s	mean the balance there the um the uh
2367s	omega busters there and again weirdly
2370s	enough making the omega buster smaller
2372s	is actually fine right like you just
2374s	want it to die especially with the baron
2376s	and the other mechs on board so these
2378s	vulgin swaps don't appear to have had a
2380s	gigantic impact on the board as of yet
2384s	but it's had a
2385s	at least half a one
2387s	oh the thing has been done the thing has
2389s	been done raven
2391s	that's a reflect that's a 16 8
2393s	replicating menace that's now been
2395s	magnetized onto something i feel like i
2397s	was talking about it all of yesterday
2398s	and it did not happen a single time jana
2401s	say knows the deal love to see it
2405s	so for anyone curious uh the
2408s	magnetic minions in shop there's a lot
2410s	of equity in just using uh buff spells
2413s	spellcraft spells on them and then
2415s	buying them and magnetizing them to a
2417s	mech on your board because that turns
2418s	the temporary spellcraft effects into
2421s	permanent effects because the stats just
2423s	get permanently dumped and the uh the
2425s	negative the debuff of losing the
2428s	spellcraft effect at the end of the turn
2430s	is not applied with magnetic and this
2432s	turn here for dappy was huge actually
2434s	because as you can see they are double
2436s	siren he has the officer
2439s	he was a bit you know low statted on
2441s	naga for this stage in the game to have
2442s	that board but he was starting to build
2445s	it up and he was against ghost this
2446s	round which means he has like a three
2448s	turns worth of stats to build up the
2450s	naga board that might keep him in the
2452s	game for a little bit longer than you
2454s	know initially expected at least to have
2456s	six other trying to clean up the arena
2459s	player which is all dragon and it looks
2461s	like he's gonna very smoothly achieve
2463s	this and the
2464s	complete contrast between six so and
2467s	south king this game is kind of
2468s	hilarious right both players did the
2470s	thing of like you know omega rolling
2472s	super high up the tavern tears
2474s	once been punished and one has not
2477s	26.
2479s	oh my god i mean alucard is very mono
2482s	cleave right now don't get me wrong his
2484s	board is not really doing anything apart
2486s	from that uh win fury faux reaper that
2488s	he had but still taking 26 when you have
2491s	a divine shield win fury 30 30 cleave on
2494s	your board is probably not something he
2496s	was expecting too much on that turn
2499s	he does have approximately one million
2500s	millions in a million gold though so
2502s	let's see if he can make something
2503s	happen does have the
2507s	golden well just got to work out
2510s	ordering here in space i think it's
2512s	important to just get rid of the things
2513s	you know you're going to get rid of
2515s	first
2516s	or you gain the space and he's going to
2517s	make a million naga too but the problem
2520s	is he can make and generate all the naga
2522s	he well maybe not the ones he wants
2524s	because he wants an atheist
2525s	but
2527s	[Laughter]
2532s	i mean gold and critter will have to do
2534s	at this point i think that's where we go
2536s	all right well i was gonna say
2538s	he he got the golden critter which is
2540s	good got the atheist and now but he
2543s	i feel like it's just too late compared
2545s	to a lot of the other players right like
2546s	he now needs to start building it up he
2549s	does have a lot of spells he now hits a
2550s	siren as well so he sketched the gold
2553s	was that gold sign from hand or
2554s	something then that was kind of funny
2556s	but he is getting there but it's it's
2558s	just going to be if it's on time or not
2560s	second atheista pickup is huge with that
2562s	siren procking twice but again not a lot
2566s	of actual uh
2567s	you know
2569s	not tons of actual spells to proc even
2571s	with this golden siren i mean there's
2573s	still so much still to be done left
2576s	through hand right there's still two
2577s	more spellcraft minions there's a blood
2579s	gym there's there's three four more
2581s	spells from this point and the passive
2583s	scaling at the end of the turn alucard's
2585s	roped out there was so many more stats
2587s	left to play and if he dies here that is
2590s	a huge potential punish punishment is
2592s	looking
2592s	like he very well tonight the cleave can
2595s	do a ton of work still though might just
2597s	bail him out and i think has with that
2600s	second hit hitting the absolute money
2602s	alucard hanging on by the skin of his
2604s	teeth there but it was just a little bit
2607s	of indecision bit of a lack of apm uh
2610s	ending with some minions in hand that
2611s	perhaps could have been cycled through
2612s	there
2615s	and now we are down to three alucard
2617s	hanging on you know making the turn at
2619s	the last possible moment the fight's
2622s	still going on between unisa and six so
2625s	he looks like
2626s	so
2629s	yeah isn't gonna quite be able to manage
2630s	it not all the damage ever but again
2633s	this eight now starts to stack up a
2635s	little bit makes a one turn kill a
2637s	little bit more doable here
2642s	this is a really good game by the way
2645s	from zexo super interesting first lobby
2647s	like
2648s	obviously there are two naga players
2650s	doing massive naga things uh one of them
2653s	dappy was just eliminated he was double
2655s	officer we're now seeing
2657s	um alucard on scabs doing double athesia
2659s	things as well um but honestly this
2663s	was the first lobby i think we've seen
2666s	where other players successfully managed
2669s	to bully the beauty levelers out of the
2671s	game before they got there we did not
2673s	see it at all yesterday we saw scrappy
2676s	players hanging on and outlasting people
2679s	but we didn't see people beating naga
2682s	players before they set up particularly
2683s	whereas this time around zixo in
2685s	particular has played like quillboard
2688s	bully very effectively he got online
2690s	very quickly but i think what he did was
2692s	recognize that he wasn't hitting naga in
2695s	time and just said okay fine second
2698s	prize consolation prize quillboard tempo
2701s	let's go for it picked up some leroys as
2703s	well just to um
2705s	add a little bit to his board state
2706s	create those little one for ones that he
2708s	needs on the early divine shield taunts
2710s	if needed and has absolutely bullied
2712s	several people out of this game i think
2715s	two of the first three kills in the
2717s	lobby's xo was directly responsible for
2719s	and so really really good game from him
2721s	so far yeah and i think at least from my
2724s	view it's unlikely he will actually win
2726s	uh the fact that at midnight he's never
2728s	winning this year
2730s	the fact at minimum he's secured a top
2732s	three and like i said the easy way to
2734s	think about this format is to start with
2737s	it's a race to 20 points and then you
2740s	try and win the win the game and win the
2742s	tournament so just to current at least
2744s	the top three when the game hasn't been
2746s	particularly kind to you
2748s	right he's absolutely huge and we see
2750s	the smirk there from six so it's like oh
2752s	yeah it looks like my stuff has ran out
2754s	now
2755s	[Laughter]
2758s	like i said good game but you just kind
2760s	of have to accept when you're not doing
2762s	the thing but wins right and like you
2764s	said it he's not gonna win the lobby
2766s	he's got to this point he's got top
2768s	three i think he should be fairly happy
2769s	with what he's done so far you don't
2771s	beat that
2772s	yeah because again however much i'm sure
2774s	people poke holes in this but if you say
2777s	well you know these are the odds of like
2779s	generally speaking how many times should
2781s	you be able to hit like the good naga in
2783s	any given game or in any set of games
2786s	but then like this is the one where six
2787s	so you can argue six so
2790s	he's just is he gonna die no he won't
2792s	die
2794s	you can argue argue that six so like
2796s	missed this game but he missed and got
2799s	third that's an incredible finish for
2802s	this game one
2804s	here's some perspective for everyone at
2806s	home by the way and i suppose for
2807s	giannis in this tournament and this is
2809s	coming from someone who is normally not
2811s	a glass half full kind of person
2813s	whenever you're in that situation where
2814s	you fight a ghost and you kind of just
2816s	get slapped by the ghost your initial
2818s	instinct is like oh my god this sucks i
2820s	lost to a ghost
2821s	you should be delighted by that because
2824s	what that means is in actuality you have
2826s	no right still being alive game that you
2829s	are currently playing so take your plus
2831s	mmr take your plus tournament rating
2834s	whatever it is you have wildly
2836s	outperformed what you were supposed to
2837s	do if you are losing to a ghost in that
2839s	situation so uh for yana say i think
2841s	that has to be the the takeaway right
2843s	it's just well um i mean fantastic i got
2846s	good i got good match up rng so far if
2849s	i've lived this long and that person has
2852s	died well look at this how the lobby's
2854s	going to finish right there's two
2856s	players out of the top three aren't
2858s	playing naga
2859s	in this lobby which is kind of
2861s	ridiculous and a big shock based on what
2863s	we saw yesterday but it shows that you
2866s	know maybe under the right circumstances
2868s	it can be done and bullying greedy
2871s	players that are going for naga out of
2873s	the lobby is possible
2876s	put it in play put it in play get the
2878s	full 10 cards right this is currently
2881s	eight cards at the end of turn if you
2883s	just sell one of your biggest minions
2884s	and play the other orgasma then you get
2886s	10. sell the glow scale who cares that's
2889s	more important isn't it just to end the
2891s	term with 10 cards in your hand surely
2893s	that's the real win condition seven
2894s	points instead of six or more important
2897s	it's like you know what i'll a card fair
2898s	enough is that even right golden hog is
2900s	a two cards procking twice
2903s	twice see he's getting eight cards right
2905s	now yeah
2906s	he would get 12 i suppose if he puts the
2909s	other one in play yeah i'm seeing the
2911s	problem
2914s	do you like some additional cards with
2916s	those cards
2922s	there with the other side of the ball oh
2923s	uh
2924s	wrong predictions who do you think's got
2926s	this fight
2928s	it's a close one isn't it
2930s	pretty close i'm gonna
2932s	go alucard i think okay my deep analysis
2936s	i could be wrong though
2940s	let me just add up the stats on this
2942s	side of the board
2946s	and that is all the resets done so now
2949s	these two i suppose there's one more
2951s	reset left on that one deflector for the
2953s	other deflector but now these two divine
2955s	shield deflectors are going to have to
2956s	deal with this entire board stay and
2958s	that does not seem to add up from where
2961s	i'm sat yeah it's the fact that after
2962s	all that the two taunts were still just
2965s	sat there like yeah you got any more any
2967s	more no yeah okay good yeah that is
2970s	going to be game number one alucard
2972s	takes the victory nice and early and if
2975s	there's a way you want to start that is
2978s	it seven points there
2980s	for alucard and a great start you know
2983s	very much on his way to those 20 points
2986s	and now
2987s	again once you get that momentum going
2989s	you just write okay even if i top four
2991s	in the next uh lobby he's still probably
2994s	going to be a minimum top two on the
2996s	leaderboard at that point so gonna be
2998s	feeling great for him and i think you
3000s	know it was so dicey for him so he had
3002s	that one turn he had to pop off because
3005s	i think he was on like four health or
3006s	something yeah and he did and it was big
3008s	enough and then from there you can see
3010s	the raw power of the naga scaling
3012s	especially when his friends are six oh
3015s	yana say even dappy to an extent just
3018s	bullied the actual other naga players
3020s	out of the lobby nice and early i think
3022s	they did uh many people favors in this
3024s	lobby so far
3025s	yeah well so dappy was the other naga
3028s	player right and that was that crucial
3030s	match up where um i think originally you
3033s	can file it as alucard was an orgazoa
3035s	player and dappy was the officer player
3037s	going into that right dappy died without
3040s	ever having orgazoa on his board as far
3042s	as i could see whereas alucard had the
3044s	value generation from the orgazoa the
3046s	entire time but was relying on that wind
3048s	fury cleave for a large portion of the
3050s	game before hitting that officer that
3053s	turn where they clashed that was the
3055s	point of stress i think from alakar
3057s	because again it was an incredibly
3059s	difficult term but he did not get all of
3060s	the possible actions he could have done
3062s	completed that turn if his opponent had
3064s	just been that little bit bigger on that
3066s	turn and punished him for it then
3067s	suddenly you're looking at dappy running
3069s	away from that with that lobby
3071s	uncontested right because as we saw no
3072s	one else was prepared to be able to
3074s	challenge those boards um evidenced by
3077s	the fact that yana say the mech player
3079s	lost to dappy's ghost the next fight
3081s	after that
3082s	so the winner of that fight always felt
3084s	like they were going to win the lobby
3086s	and i think just the lack of persistent
3088s	value from dappy with the orgazoa was
3090s	the really big difference there with
3092s	alucard in the end uh
3095s	being the one to build the murder board
3096s	and just progressively going through
3098s	everyone but once again just to
3099s	reiterate big shout out to xo because i
3102s	think it's very easy in that spot to say
3104s	i'm omu you know i went to
3107s	i went to tavern 4 on the same turn that
3109s	everyone else was just getting to tavern
3110s	three i got to tavern six super quickly
3113s	i'm just gonna roll down naga from this
3115s	point and then i'm gonna beat the naka
3116s	player but i think he's recognized that
3119s	in these lobbies that's happening so
3121s	quickly that if he didn't hit it
3123s	straight away he needs to just go tempo
3125s	with the first thing he sees and the
3127s	first thing he saw was quillboard that
3129s	tempo worked out great he killed several
3131s	players and he's now put himself in a
3133s	decent position with that top four and i
3136s	think most importantly was the first
3137s	kill sixo had which was on sao king
3139s	which was the other player who was you
3141s	know very much accelerating the plan
3144s	at one point right he saw him go all the
3146s	way up from like what was it one to four
3148s	or one to five it was kind of ridiculous
3151s	so he was the other player who's trying
3152s	to go maximum greed
3154s	and uh you know in a fight between them
3156s	between them both one of them gets
3157s	punished one of them doesn't and he's
3159s	rewarded so a really exciting lobby
3162s	number one or game one should i say and
3165s	and as you said good job for all the
3167s	players there so far it's gonna be a bit
3168s	of an uphill climb for some but again
3171s	this isn't a just three game
3173s	uh uh set and you're out and that's it
3175s	there's enough time for people to come
3177s	back because unless we have another be
3179s	nice situation and alucard just goes
3182s	win-win-win-win went done
3184s	finished have won uh there will be time
3186s	for people to start to claw the points
3187s	back and start to really contest it once
3189s	we get to that 20 points but already as
3192s	we said that was game number one we're
3194s	gonna go to a quick break while we set
3195s	up game number two so don't go anywhere
3197s	we'll be right back
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3394s	welcome back to lobby legends noble
3396s	garden we've already had one game so far
3399s	with alucard taking the victory but
3401s	still a few of the players hot in his
3403s	heels of course and we are getting ready
3405s	to go into game number two uh is this
3407s	gonna be a theme subtle of players you
3409s	know maybe playing a slightly more
3411s	aggressive like we saw from game one or
3414s	do you think that was uh maybe a you
3416s	know something a little bit different as
3417s	a one-off yeah i called it out going
3420s	into day one right the
3421s	um competitive play is different and
3424s	i've kind of heard various streamers
3426s	talking about this leading into the
3428s	event where everyone was saying oh you
3430s	know it's just going to be naga over and
3431s	over again um and some streamers who
3434s	have played in big tournaments i heard
3436s	beaufort talking about it i've heard sun
3437s	glitters talking about it just saying
3439s	like tournament play is different and
3442s	you can't really understand how
3443s	different it is until you've experienced
3445s	it because players understand the game
3448s	and the meta game and you know quite
3450s	literally the meta game not necessarily
3452s	the meta gamers in well naga are good
3453s	that's the metagame but the metagame is
3455s	it the the meta game is in how to win
3458s	tournaments right the actual strategy of
3460s	the game outside of the game in the
3462s	literal sense
3464s	um however coming into day one i did
3466s	kind of shout out and say it's possible
3468s	that people just build up the murder
3469s	boards and stop people tripling into
3471s	those sixes very effectively however i
3473s	doubt it because we're so polarized in
3476s	the direction of being naga so so much
3478s	stronger than anything else i didn't
3479s	think it was possible so that game where
3481s	it did kind of happen a little bit was
3483s	quite refreshing to see uh we'll see if
3485s	it continues throughout the day
3487s	certainly it becomes a factor later on
3491s	with strike format when you particularly
3494s	are fighting to stop particular players
3498s	in particular positions right people
3499s	actually get huge targets on their back
3502s	in this format when they're threatening
3504s	everyone else with winning the
3505s	tournament so that's when the big like
3508s	okay i'm gonna tempo out i'm gonna buy
3509s	this i'm gonna buy a gas coiler i'm
3511s	gonna buy a meccano tank like whatever
3512s	it ends up being to be able to push
3514s	damage to a particular person could end
3517s	up being much more impactful as we get
3519s	later on throughout the day yeah and as
3521s	we saw in the hero select here we have
3523s	got some hard hitters again galakrond uh
3526s	with all dragon here as we can see now
3528s	already starting off with those hero
3529s	powers not too much of a surprise at all
3532s	we see tess another omu another vulgin
3535s	ashara of course
3537s	and then we've got gerwin cookie pretty
3539s	solid but then we have a janissa on
3542s	honestly a hero i haven't played at all
3544s	so far because i don't even think i've
3546s	been offered this hero in them
3548s	in my play at least over the last few
3550s	days
3551s	yeah lich is underwhelming in my opinion
3555s	big big problem overall uh i confess i
3558s	wasn't actually paying too much
3559s	attention to all dragon's turn there so
3561s	i'm not sure what uh he is particularly
3563s	upset about seeing on the other side was
3565s	it the fact that pig got him
3569s	very possibly not sure
3578s	eggs everywhere
3580s	i was still not seeing that we did see a
3582s	there was a sugar walk offered but you
3583s	know the comp isn't there so also um
3587s	with the no beats in here again i feel
3589s	like this is a curse we've been given
3591s	what was it one beast game we had
3592s	yesterday
3594s	yeah one as six we saw beasts yesterday
3597s	which uh you would expect him to be
3598s	seeing a lot more but we've also just
3600s	had it be banned for the first two games
3601s	so far today so it does seem like the
3603s	curse continues uh jana sage is going to
3606s	continue to build up coins here with the
3608s	lich and as i was saying beforehand i do
3610s	find this hero to be a little bit
3612s	underwhelming
3613s	in theory
3615s	it does feel like she should fit the
3617s	bill right you're looking for heroes
3619s	that can go up taverns quickly uh lich
3621s	just picks up a coin every single turn
3623s	so that makes sense you're able to do it
3625s	however the cost of health is so
3627s	enormous that in my experience when you
3629s	try and do it you find yourself in that
3632s	sour king position from the previous
3634s	game right where you're just at such low
3636s	health when you're tripling into your
3637s	six uh that if you get yourself in
3640s	that position where you fight anyone
3641s	with any kind of relative strength at
3643s	that time you end up taking too much
3644s	damage and dying so i haven't had too
3646s	much success with litch up until this
3648s	point uh be interesting to see how this
3650s	one panned out yeah we even saw that
3651s	from janice a little bit earlier on that
3654s	he could have leveled there with the
3656s	coin into six gold right but they chose
3659s	to pick up the two yoho's just to be a
3661s	feel a little bit safer and just sustain
3663s	some of that health he's naturally gonna
3665s	lose due to his hero power
3668s	i'm still trying to work out that all
3670s	dragon term because he had a coin in his
3671s	hand right which meant that he started
3673s	with the three one and then
3675s	sold it to hero power instead of coining
3677s	to hero power so i'm guessing that was
3679s	the concern right that he didn't think
3682s	that his three one was ever going to
3684s	compete with a yoga minion on the other
3686s	side so he ended up selling the minion
3688s	instead of using the coin which he just
3689s	didn't need and then and then it was a
3691s	one two and then it was a one two that
3693s	would have tied in anyway it's very
3694s	strange interaction i'm not really sure
3696s	when happening there but all very weird
3697s	at the end wow
3699s	hello friend
3702s	hello beautiful when you go three on
3704s	three
3705s	that's the board you want to see when
3707s	you get there
3709s	it's literally perfect right those two
3711s	minions are the exact two you want and
3714s	then i'd be shocked if he doesn't just
3715s	insta pick them both up
3717s	i think
3719s	at this point
3721s	no naga on board
3724s	is that still the best naga to be
3726s	offered alongside a siren it probably
3728s	still is i still think so because it's
3730s	still effectively you cast it twice
3733s	right the show commander buff
3735s	you still make it even with only two
3737s	naga it's still uh plus four plus four
3739s	yeah it's a natural four four just in
3741s	terms of straight up tempo which is
3743s	pretty good for a three on three minion
3745s	and then it's giving an extra plus two
3746s	plus two so it's kind of equivalent to
3749s	i don't know like bronze warden plus the
3751s	dragon buffer in terms of immediate
3753s	tempo overall right bronze warden being
3755s	a decent amount of stats and then the
3756s	dragon buffer being a 4-4 with a 2-2
3758s	buff built in so yep that is a lot of
3761s	stats on that term yeah and also you add
3763s	to the fact that those are minions you
3765s	never necessarily need to replace for
3767s	the rest of the game either oh for sure
3770s	oh you know they're the minions you
3771s	actually want in your late game comp
3773s	which is pretty impressive and that's
3774s	going to be pushing some nice damage on
3776s	tess but the problem is it's tess
3779s	that's the point of stress right i
3781s	genuinely think that's what made the
3782s	decision take so long i wasn't
3784s	necessarily looking at the opponent on
3785s	that turn um but he could have for
3787s	example eaten one of the naga there put
3790s	it in the pot instead and then just put
3793s	a weaker board up against tess which
3795s	again is that kind of thing i was
3796s	talking about this yesterday normally
3798s	like don't feed refarm don't feed tess
3801s	is again kind of scrub bait and you
3803s	should generally focus on your own game
3805s	plan instead of one of seven of your
3807s	opponents on the other side however test
3810s	scabs reform etc in this meta where naga
3814s	are so dominant have such game warping
3817s	potential that it might still be correct
3819s	to play around them in certain positions
3821s	but again i think the double three drop
3823s	pickup was just way too good on that
3825s	turn uh let tess do their thing all
3827s	dragons here we've found it galakrond
3830s	has done the galactron thing
3833s	yeah it's gonna be okay does have to
3835s	catch up on levels to make the naga
3836s	discover relevant or more relevant but
3839s	they're still very very good start
3841s	indeed and max definitely got the the
3843s	tempo aspect down for queen ashara with
3846s	double snail cavalry and reasonably
3848s	buffed as well not only in that health
3850s	total but in the attack values as well
3852s	being at six attack is uh pretty pretty
3854s	solid they're gonna make uh probably two
3856s	for one uh for each minion most likely
3859s	21 total on board right now
3864s	which means eight gold for nine attack
3867s	next turn it's possible but difficult i
3869s	would say with the uh south sea captain
3872s	available obviously pirates add a little
3873s	bit more attack if he's able to pick
3875s	those up and there are some decently
3876s	sized ones on three that he can find
3879s	very possible gets it done this turn
3883s	not with that
3885s	no
3887s	weirdly the sun bacon isn't bad because
3891s	with eight gold you can only do
3893s	sell one by two anyway and kind of uh
3896s	the sun bacon's probably the best thing
3898s	to sell in that position
3900s	but yeah with uh nothing available i
3902s	think consolation prize just go up those
3904s	levels
3905s	now finds himself on what 20 so he's
3908s	barely lost any attack on his boards to
3911s	be able to go up an entire level there
3912s	this makes sense and now he has nine
3914s	goals to buy three things from one
3917s	tavern for shop next turn to find 10
3920s	attack which i'd have to say is favored
3922s	believe it off or not not the kind of
3925s	thing i've ever run the odds on in a
3926s	game of battlegrounds uh whether you're
3928s	favored to find 10 attack on a tavern
3930s	for board
3931s	but i would imagine you are favored to
3933s	do so yeah the thing is what's most
3935s	important there i think uh is that max
3938s	isn't taking a lot of damage right now
3940s	like if he was getting pressured and not
3942s	hitting the hero power and maybe
3943s	struggling to level that's when you get
3945s	into a mess as queen ashara right but i
3947s	think the fact he drew the last fight
3949s	managed to level he's with that snail
3951s	board he's probably going to be at least
3953s	okay in the next fight as well
3956s	i think he's just he just needs that a
3957s	little bit of time but hey yonsei
3960s	they're doing pretty well now double
3962s	siren these snails will probably go in
3964s	the
3965s	near ish future and we'll have to see
3968s	what he gets off of here the omu so i
3970s	was gonna say six so then just from the
3972s	because i'm used to it from the last
3973s	game
3974s	test fight the galacto on curve when the
3977s	found the orgasm i think they must have
3979s	done oh come on
3982s	delete tess what is this nonsense come
3985s	on
3986s	absolutely heinous
3988s	ups and downs here though for on say
3990s	because he did generate the third siren
3994s	which is absolutely huge for a triple of
3996s	course but he is fighting demon uh
3998s	demons omu right now which means the
4001s	hero power is gonna
4003s	yeah i mean swings and roundabouts right
4005s	you win some you lose some you just got
4007s	a six drop for free on turn six without
4008s	having to level and you've tripled a
4010s	siren but boohoo you fought a demon
4012s	player once come on raven honestly when
4015s	you get used to the power of tess you
4018s	expect the best every turn okay like you
4022s	did no test player is like
4024s	a happy and uh oh you know it's okay
4027s	cry me a freaking river this is all fair
4030s	isn't it
4031s	yes fair for a test player
4035s	this is the expected power level saw
4037s	you're sounding like a priest apologist
4039s	right now that's what you're saying how
4041s	dare you yeah well dare you yeah you
4043s	didn't like that did you
4045s	because
4046s	you don't choose to play tess
4050s	you do that test decides that
4053s	you very literally do if you get off a
4056s	test it is your duty to play test priest
4059s	players choose that time and time again
4063s	ah
4064s	well
4065s	does have the atheista option
4068s	yeah does have the orgazora option
4070s	though as well and the officer in this
4073s	kind of position did burn him last time
4075s	um taking a look at his board which is
4078s	currently obscured
4081s	there we go it doesn't actually have
4083s	much of the naga makeup and that is so
4086s	interesting
4087s	that is so incredibly interesting i
4090s	think he is now saying
4092s	yeah too late this is the zikzo position
4094s	from the previous game right it's like
4096s	what's the point
4097s	in me just taking an official which is
4099s	going to take me two or three turns to
4101s	get online because i don't have the naga
4102s	i need or an orgazoa which kind of by
4105s	definition takes two or three turns to
4106s	really catch up because you have to kind
4108s	of milk that scaling when everyone else
4110s	i can check the sidebar and see the
4112s	amount of players that are already
4113s	rocking naga there's no way i'm gonna
4115s	catch up with them in this position so
4117s	he's just trying to do damage to
4119s	gallicron you want the reason because i
4121s	believe there's like 1.5 reasons
4124s	0.5
4126s	he could maybe still go into naga and
4128s	still pop off right like that's always
4130s	an option it might not pay off but maybe
4132s	main reason you take it so no one else
4134s	can have it song
4136s	so so then all the other naga players
4139s	there's going to be at least one who's
4140s	feels like they're falling behind and
4142s	then they'll eat that one you let them
4144s	cannibalize each other and you just hide
4146s	in the corner and hope you don't get hit
4147s	too hard
4149s	yeah picks up the scally now
4151s	looks like sucking is just absolutely
4154s	locking in
4156s	to hard tempo probably now considering
4159s	that khadgar as well whether he wants to
4161s	look for some kind of exodia setup
4164s	exodia in my opinion incredibly weak in
4167s	the current meta game it's great benefit
4169s	is that you are strong for the turns
4172s	that you are setting it up which is not
4174s	necessarily true for other builds in the
4175s	game right now like like while you're at
4177s	the point where you have like an eliza
4179s	or a golden eliza or two eliza's a
4181s	couple of scally's whatever you're
4183s	really strong at that point already
4185s	right which is great but the end game
4188s	payoff with the baron and the khadgar
4190s	doesn't make the stats that you need to
4192s	be able to fight with naga board on the
4194s	other side so
4195s	he's going to pass it up
4200s	that's your special card song the nosy
4202s	looter you had about 100 of those in the
4205s	game i watched you play the other day
4208s	don't remind me it was very traumatic
4213s	oh hello yeah this is a big big fight
4217s	here because this tess
4219s	is huge and that is the galacron on the
4221s	other side or dragon that just took the
4224s	damage uh from south king so between the
4227s	tag team of south king and nuensey they
4229s	might just be doing enough to bully this
4231s	galakrond out of the game here because i
4232s	think this is going to be a pretty close
4234s	fight with the gala on the other side
4236s	as well galacrum's comp is not very
4239s	strong right considering you know
4241s	what he got offered right
4243s	he's still got the poison
4245s	which did get the divine shield which is
4247s	not bad at all
4249s	but for this stage in the game the extra
4251s	healthy and that value trade might just
4253s	be good enough here for fiance to just
4255s	put an end to galacrum yeah that was a
4257s	game changer the divine shield poison i
4258s	think was going to be enough but then
4260s	the biggest minion left remaining for
4262s	the awe dragon was just the worst trade
4265s	available on the board but that final
4267s	attack yeah taking the orchestra off the
4270s	board means he just about lives to fight
4273s	another day and that is huge huge news
4275s	for all dragon because he now finds his
4277s	way up to tavern five
4280s	yeah it looks like lich is going out
4281s	jana say gonna be dead now the first
4283s	player to fall
4285s	on this turn and uh again just looking
4287s	at dappy's comp the the comps are a mess
4290s	right now oh a lot of these places it's
4292s	the hgi board yeah exactly what i was
4296s	talking about
4297s	oh no
4299s	is it actually going to happen there's
4301s	another meccano tank okay
4303s	let's rewind all the back all the way
4305s	back to day one um in an event which uh
4308s	officially didn't happen and we don't
4310s	like to talk about um this was what we
4313s	kind of saw for the entire tournament we
4315s	thought going in that this kind of
4318s	milking scaling strategy that we've been
4320s	seeing doing very well on ladder being
4321s	the optimal water strategy
4323s	was going to be dominant in the
4324s	tournament and instead what people did
4326s	was just bought high tempo demons early
4329s	on soul jugglers and then if they were
4331s	tripling into tavern four avenge minions
4333s	it was meccano tank and not light spawn
4336s	or nest matron which is what we were
4338s	expecting to see to win the game and it
4340s	just killed people and stopped them from
4342s	being able to scale and stop them from
4344s	being able to win the game we saw
4346s	basically none of this throughout the
4348s	entirety of day one but now all of a
4350s	sudden zixo in that first game not doing
4352s	exactly this but certainly doing a
4355s	uh philosophically similar strategy and
4358s	now we're seeing this uh double soul
4360s	juggler double tank strat come out from
4363s	daffy just saying you know what if i can
4365s	kill a person or two i'll take it but i
4367s	think he might just be getting a big
4369s	culture shock as the stats come out on
4371s	the other side but actually the numbers
4374s	the raw numberage is not quite there
4377s	yeah so i was going to say yeah you can
4379s	say his board is overall strong but the
4382s	sheer amount of damage coming out
4384s	considering it's two orgasoids there and
4386s	then and nothing to to back it up right
4389s	so this is you know potentially either
4392s	winnable or at least a draw here from
4395s	dappy just because the sheer amount of
4397s	points of damage going to be flying out
4398s	here from all of these minions although
4401s	let's see where the trades go okay
4403s	that's huge three attack yeah so the
4405s	problem here is that if you break that
4407s	down okay ends up on a tie but the way
4409s	those attacks were going obviously
4411s	meccano tanks are guaranteed to hit the
4412s	highest health minions and the way those
4415s	break points broke down is that it was
4417s	always one damage short of actually
4419s	doing a relative relevant break point on
4421s	what it was attacking on the turns it
4422s	was going through and then even the soul
4424s	jugglers started to deal three damage to
4427s	four health minions towards the end as
4429s	well so the random break points just
4430s	didn't work out particularly well in
4432s	terms of being able to win the fight but
4435s	job done right like he fought the test
4438s	and he's alive he can tell the story to
4440s	his grants he is he continues to live in
4444s	this lobby that's only allowed it
4446s	because uh she knows that he'll just
4448s	kill other people for her um
4452s	and here though i was gonna say all
4453s	dragons comp although on paper or i
4455s	glance it looks strong to me actually
4457s	looks relatively weak considering how
4459s	far into the game he actually is he did
4461s	manage to find the siren again key
4463s	component so he can actually start to
4465s	get some work done now with the siren
4467s	and start really stacking those
4468s	addresses
4470s	you ever just stop and think about how
4472s	dumb that is like
4473s	turn 10 he's got a probable divine
4476s	shield poison multiple 20 20s and
4478s	probably like 24 24 of passive scaling
4481s	at the end of his turn and you're just
4482s	like yeah it's kind of weak for turn 10
4484s	overall i'd say sounds very dumb but
4486s	tell me i'm wrong
4488s	yeah i mean well let's look at what else
4490s	is hanging around right the tess
4493s	uh now has double if it's a double
4495s	orgazoa but doesn't necessarily have
4497s	enough spots left on board for the
4498s	spellcraft buffs just has those orgasms
4500s	but it's certainly bigger
4502s	elsewhere
4504s	i'm not seeing too much in terms of
4508s	boards with bigger futures you can look
4510s	at this uh zixo board for example and
4513s	just say okay that's might be better
4515s	right now with the leroy and the big
4517s	divine shield cleave but i do still
4519s	think all dragon is in the second best
4521s	position in the lobby in terms of
4522s	overall future and overall win condition
4525s	i do want to point out as well that at
4527s	just a quick glance i can say on turn 10
4531s	of this game there are a grand total of
4534s	two
4535s	offices in the game
4537s	across all comps
4539s	uh no
4541s	tess has two
4543s	gala cron has one sorry sorry three
4545s	three three that's still not a lot it's
4547s	not a lot you're considering what we've
4549s	seen yes sorry i didn't see because
4550s	one's got divine shield on it and it
4552s	confused me but yeah you are completely
4554s	right and look at the value in hand
4556s	beyond say
4558s	so much gold and tess doesn't even need
4561s	it
4563s	that's oh that's a big loss as well i
4565s	saw king's gonna gain some points but
4568s	salking also was eighth in the last
4570s	lobby so he's got a lot of catching up
4573s	to do going forward
4582s	alucard's scrambling to try and find
4584s	something to do
4586s	counteract this test on the other side
4588s	but the turn certainly less explosive
4591s	than what's going to be offered
4594s	it's time to get rid of the harvest
4595s	golem it feels like it right now stop
4598s	saying harvest oh yeah sorry it's
4601s	the full reaper the faux reaper the
4602s	furry but the fury but um
4605s	it shouldn't look so similar um anyway
4608s	so
4609s	it is time to get rid of it now because
4611s	it's
4612s	reducing down potential stats because
4614s	the minion that alucard has for uh for
4618s	the stat gain is good is that critter
4620s	so a absolutely understand what you're
4623s	saying
4624s	but i don't think you can right the
4627s	philosophy behind getting rid of the
4628s	faux reaper would be to say okay i'm
4630s	gonna maximize my stats over time with
4632s	everything get an officer and then win
4634s	the game right but that's just not the
4636s	reality it's not what's gonna happen
4637s	right you need to just be max tempo at
4639s	all times max tempo at all times here is
4642s	exactly this doing the thing hooray we
4646s	actually get to see it happen i would
4648s	retract my suggestion if i realized this
4650s	was going to happen this is a much more
4652s	threatening and reasonable faux reaper
4655s	um
4656s	than it was before because you know we
4658s	know and i'm sure alucard would be aware
4660s	that before the faux reaper got buffed
4662s	then it was barely even going to scratch
4664s	the minions from one side yeah so i
4666s	think it was uh yeah it was a good way
4669s	to make this happen to make this pho
4670s	reaper a lot more relevant
4673s	good hits not going to be anywhere near
4675s	enough but the the way the sequencing
4677s	worked out at the start with the trades
4678s	going through i think was nice second
4680s	cleave is now actually a big deal that's
4683s	currently 15. that was not the trade he
4686s	needed that big minion to be able to
4688s	take out the uh 20-ish health siren on
4690s	the right-hand side but without that
4692s	siren going down six plus six plus three
4694s	is going to be enough to take him out it
4695s	was a valiant effort and unfortunately
4698s	even though alucard did the thing with
4700s	the divine shield scam with the magnetic
4702s	minion he then died immediately so we
4704s	don't then get to see the results of
4706s	that the next turn where the faux reaper
4708s	just has permanent divine shield so we
4710s	still haven't necessarily illustrated
4712s	the point that i've been trying to make
4714s	all tournaments i love the stark
4715s	contrast where if you put all dragon and
4717s	max's health numbers next to each other
4720s	it still wouldn't add up to the amount
4722s	that everyone says
4725s	if you put them next to each other and
4727s	multiplied it by seven it still wouldn't
4731s	say it's like it's not close
4745s	looks like as well
4747s	max might be the first one to go
4750s	always unfortunate in situations like
4752s	this where
4753s	you're paired with someone who's you
4755s	know also basically one shot away from
4758s	death
4759s	and you're the one who goes into the
4760s	first place person that's clearly going
4762s	to win it almost certainly going to win
4764s	any fight they take for the rest of the
4766s	game and you just like please let me get
4768s	the ghost let me get the ghost and then
4770s	you know you're the one who doesn't get
4771s	it so you're probably the one who's
4773s	going to end up in third place but still
4775s	third place with them in what again i
4777s	would say is a rough game i think this
4779s	is not a turn 12 comp you would really
4781s	be proud of if you were max right now so
4784s	yeah i think again just accepting a
4786s	third second potential place
4788s	in a lobby like this especially when one
4790s	player is just dominating is almost like
4793s	winning the lobby yourself
4795s	yeah and this one i'm not going to argue
4797s	with you on just for the sake of it like
4799s	queen ashara turned 12. yeah that's a
4802s	pretty miserable looking board state for
4804s	that hero at this stage of the game
4806s	uh yep this is uh this is what you're
4808s	supposed to be doing
4810s	you know those numbers keep going up
4812s	that's uh that's what you aim for
4814s	vine shield on everything compare the
4816s	size
4817s	leroy kicking things off if he wins the
4819s	50-50 of going first there's not even a
4821s	cleave available not that it would have
4822s	mattered whatsoever and this means we're
4825s	gonna have to find
4826s	alucard no sorry or dragon on galakrond
4829s	being able to find a way to solve the
4832s	test problem right now
4833s	and rewind right all the way back and
4836s	we're like do you just not give tests
4839s	these three drops because they're insane
4841s	this is kind of what i was talking about
4843s	right and i will once again make the
4845s	point that in almost every circumstance
4848s	that point is absolute nonsense and you
4850s	should ignore it always but
4852s	tess equals tess in this meta it's
4855s	incredibly scary to feed her and i think
4858s	siren in particular siren and athissa
4861s	are the two cards in particular you
4864s	should be very very wary of feeding her
4866s	because those two cards are the enablers
4868s	once tess has those cards or one of
4871s	those two cards she can take anything
4874s	else she wants from anyone else's board
4876s	across the entire game it really is the
4878s	backbone of the comp and i think it's
4879s	also why the comp so powerful right now
4881s	is that siren is a three drop so you can
4884s	pick it early it's good early it's good
4887s	mid it's amazing late so
4890s	it's just perfect at all times of any
4891s	given game uh but still uh i think again
4895s	all dragon although you know whoever fed
4897s	the uh the test we could talk about that
4900s	but i think
4902s	there's a certain level of this is so
4904s	strong that if i feed tess and tess wins
4906s	fine but maybe this is strong enough so
4908s	that i'm second place
4912s	yeah i mean i totally agree i think
4914s	first i think first and foremost you are
4916s	supposed to look out for yourself at all
4917s	times um certainly i think there are
4920s	niche situations where like if you
4921s	literally triple into a six early and
4923s	you think you can take 15 from tess and
4925s	just move on with your life and never
4926s	lose a fight again for the rest of the
4928s	lobby then go for it
4929s	the only reason i keep bringing it up
4931s	here is because as we progress through
4933s	because this is strike format there will
4935s	be times when very deliberately you
4939s	might actually be better off straight up
4941s	dying to test yourself
4944s	than giving test minions that is a legal
4946s	play in this format by the way oh you're
4947s	all bored yeah
4950s	that is provably in your own
4952s	self-interest in this format is a legal
4955s	play so if you want to sell your board
4957s	to prevent a test who has the lobby in
4959s	check from stealing good stuff from you
4961s	that is legal tournament play in this
4963s	position so the reason i'm hammering
4965s	that point so hard is that it really
4967s	might come up later it it's very
4969s	important to emphasize that as soon as
4970s	someone puts the lobby in check the game
4973s	changes dramatically right and we will
4976s	you know we will see that when it
4977s	happens uh but yeah to no surprise there
4980s	as we were just breaking down the
4981s	potential changes that can happen and
4983s	yonsei takes the lobby on tests and like
4985s	i said a member of the thieves guild it
4986s	just doesn't stop i think scabs won the
4989s	previous lobby as well right uh it's
4991s	just so so strong um overall so and no
4995s	big surprise real thing by the way or is
4997s	this just like a name that you've given
4999s	to pushing it and pushing it
5002s	it's a real thing in other things but
5003s	not necessarily but the thieves guild is
5005s	a real thing but they're not all
5007s	actually canon members of the thieves
5008s	guild uh no no no it's not even
5010s	necessary real thing in warcraft
5013s	i'd have to check on that but it's the
5014s	thing i'm just saying it's a good way to
5016s	group those heroes i think all right
5018s	but yeah we can see yeah we could see
5020s	this now uh the uh where we're looking
5022s	at from lobby to onwards alucard they're
5024s	still sitting at the top but only by
5026s	half a point all dragon doing the job of
5029s	just doing okay enough right like doing
5032s	just a solid job all round to keep up
5034s	but you want to say with the win helped
5036s	out massively and and pretty much i
5038s	think it's fair to say right now like
5039s	negated the poor performance in the
5041s	previous game
5042s	but look at the bottom subtle uh
5045s	especially sal king so much work would
5048s	need to be done from him to really make
5050s	a splash and actually catch up and put
5052s	the the lobby in check himself
5055s	yeah interesting play because he went
5057s	from the greedy line game one with the
5060s	attempt to triple into the six and then
5062s	kind of dying at that point to a
5063s	murderboard to very timid play in the
5066s	second game where he turned down the two
5069s	win condition cards to go for and eliza
5071s	instead then picked up scallywag he
5073s	initially turned down khadgar but now
5075s	looking at his final board state and
5078s	just in our data he ended with a golden
5080s	khadgar on board with double scally and
5084s	eliza so he did end up going into
5087s	a little bit of an exodia comp
5088s	eventually so i i would say overall a
5091s	little bit of a confused flip-flop kind
5093s	of strategy from sao king in that one
5095s	certainly is going to need to start
5096s	putting some points on the board but
5098s	still there is time in this one like
5100s	honestly it's it starts to become you
5103s	know fractions of percentage when you
5104s	get there but the way this format works
5106s	again like even if every other player or
5109s	two or three other players in the lobby
5110s	have already got to 20 points um and
5114s	you're on zero that's still a winnable
5116s	tournament for you but yes no no way
5118s	this works um there's this kind of like
5121s	14 game pan out that people have posted
5124s	various spreadsheets of and where it's a
5126s	zero point player then winning every
5128s	single lobby from the point where
5130s	everyone else gets put the lobby in
5132s	check it can be done but it's fractions
5135s	of fractions of percentage at that point
5137s	it truly is just by far the the main and
5140s	you know key strength of the format
5142s	right the the tournament and the games
5145s	and the points totals it's not over
5147s	until literally someone is a champion
5151s	right there's no okay we're gonna play
5152s	this game if this person gets eighth
5156s	then this other person automatically
5158s	wins they can just get seventh not care
5160s	and that's just done and dusted no it
5162s	only ends when someone wins a lobby
5165s	or a game uh when they're in check and
5167s	that's it there's nothing else that can
5169s	happen there so as you said we can have
5171s	crazy scenarios we can have scenarios
5173s	that we saw in the last lobby legends
5175s	with bnice which was just raw domination
5177s	in the early games uh which led to his
5180s	victory so there's just a lot that can
5181s	really go on
5183s	it's rare that i will say this but based
5185s	on both of our attempts to explain this
5187s	point lorinda has just popped up in
5189s	discord chat and explained it much
5191s	better than either of us did and that is
5193s	rare so i'm going to use his wording no
5196s	matter what the tournament state is if
5198s	you are on zero points no matter what
5201s	else if you win four lobbies in a row
5203s	from that point you win the tournament
5204s	nothing else matters because if you're
5206s	winning every lobby no one else can win
5209s	the
5210s	because they are required to win a
5212s	lobbying check format to be able to end
5213s	the tournament so the comeback is always
5216s	on no matter how bad your start is
5218s	yeah and i can't wait
5220s	until we get there and we are getting
5222s	closer and closer of course as game two
5224s	is over we are gonna go to a quick break
5226s	while we set up game three so don't go
5228s	anywhere and we'll be back with some
5229s	more lobby legends
5232s	[Music]
5238s	oh it's good to have you back can i get
5241s	you anything
5248s	[Music]
5256s	it's a good time to hire some new
5259s	minions
5262s	what a great addition to your team leroy
5266s	[Music]
5270s	you can't go wrong with that one
5272s	[Music]
5276s	a solid choice
5278s	[Music]
5286s	[Music]
5287s	your new recruit is ready to go
5291s	[Music]
5296s	victory never tasted sweeter
5303s	[Music]
5346s	oh
5349s	[Music]
5371s	[Music]
5376s	oh
5380s	[Music]
5385s	[Applause]
5386s	[Music]
5426s	we are back and ready to go into game
5428s	number three so far alucard is leading
5431s	the pack on that 10.5 points with all
5433s	dragon close behind on nine but the
5436s	number everyone really needs to be
5437s	concerned about is that 20. so we know
5440s	that no one can put the lobby in check
5442s	as of yet uh in this one but this is the
5446s	stage now where people can start to say
5448s	okay
5449s	if i do well here at least maybe the top
5452s	four can say oh i only need a top four
5455s	maybe even a fifth or something to just
5456s	get those few extra points to push it
5458s	over 20 because once that happens it
5461s	opens the door for that player that if
5463s	they win the next lobby they win the
5465s	whole thing and the day becomes very
5467s	short indeed
5469s	it does yeah it means that we've passed
5471s	the shortest possible day already
5475s	which is a first first second or a first
5478s	first first for a given player to hit 20
5480s	points and then they win the lobby from
5482s	that position that absolutely can no
5483s	longer happen we can still have someone
5486s	tie uh be nice's record from this spot
5488s	still though i believe which could be
5490s	very interesting raven
5492s	raven
5493s	i'm going to lose my mind
5497s	this this can't keep happening you can't
5499s	keep giving people shadow walk when
5501s	there's no beasts
5504s	hello
5506s	are the bands wrong
5508s	what's happening
5509s	i don't
5510s	know
5512s	i assume the bands are not incorrect
5514s	that we show on the top right of the
5516s	screen there
5517s	we'll see what the plan is but i will
5519s	say this is even crossed over into my
5521s	frustration as a constructed hunter
5524s	maine uh to see no beasts upset me in
5527s	battleground subtle so yeah it's a very
5530s	very strange one indeed we are cursed to
5532s	not see the uh the minion type we do
5535s	want to see uh but yeah we are going to
5537s	see a nsa pick uh the shoulder walk
5540s	regardless so exciting to see what he
5541s	can do over there and maybe we can check
5544s	in on uh you answer with finley just to
5547s	see what he chose to pick up with his
5549s	hero power because i missed it but we've
5551s	definitely got a different group of
5553s	heroes so far
5556s	hmm
5559s	well this is a puzzle well it was used
5561s	it was no coin in hand else not reduced
5565s	oh ah pot okay yeah i was going through
5568s	the motion okay it was used there's no
5570s	combat buff on the minion there's no
5572s	resource in hand what's been done here
5575s	but yeah okay that makes sense
5577s	yeah so effectively two cookies in this
5580s	lobby
5582s	with alucard being on the natural one of
5584s	course all dragon now is gonna be on the
5586s	ashara
5589s	oh if he can make that work that can
5591s	definitely help here propel him towards
5594s	that easy finish for the next lobby to
5596s	be able to get that 20 points
5599s	max already though looking for the early
5601s	triple
5604s	yeah has it frozen already uh weirdly
5608s	um myev's triples kind of want to come
5610s	on a cadence sometimes one turn later
5613s	than this like you'd really love to hit
5614s	your or have your first triple frozen at
5617s	a certain point and then freeze a second
5619s	triple right after that just so they
5620s	come into hand perfectly on that six
5622s	curve but obviously if you hit the
5624s	triple as early as possible you're never
5625s	going to turn your nose up at that
5628s	yeah again i guess to it explain for
5630s	some people that may not really uh have
5633s	much experience on mayev but is it fair
5635s	to assume that this triple will be hero
5637s	powered and not just picked up for now
5640s	correct yes it might even yeah okay so
5642s	this is exactly what i'm talking about
5643s	right the cadence of where he wants it
5646s	is one turn later than what seems
5648s	obvious so by hero powering the other
5651s	minion instead he'll now freeze that one
5653s	more turn then next turn he will level
5655s	for two he'll buy some other minion and
5657s	then he'll hero power the micro mummy
5659s	and what that means if you break that
5661s	down the next three turns from the point
5663s	he's hero powering the micro mummy that
5665s	triple comes into his hand on the turn
5668s	he presses the button to level to five
5670s	and therefore can triple into a six
5672s	right he doesn't want it to happen any
5674s	earlier than that because he doesn't
5675s	want to triple into any other minion
5677s	except a six drop and he absolutely does
5680s	not want to hold the triple in his hand
5682s	for any amount of time because they're
5684s	his two biggest minions on board right
5687s	now that he'd be tripling and he would
5689s	end up basically getting damage capped
5690s	guaranteed on every turn that he did
5693s	that and one thing that i think so
5695s	really good about this start from max
5697s	and one thing i've suffered from when
5698s	playing maeve as well is
5701s	setting all this up
5702s	you know slows you down to an extent
5705s	right because you know using hero powers
5707s	that do nothing for a while effectively
5709s	and so on but he's bored with the double
5711s	micro mummy and then the uh the chroma
5713s	wing whilst he's going to be leveling
5715s	fairly aggressively going forward it's
5718s	fairly competitive right he probably
5720s	isn't going to take that much damage at
5722s	least in the next turn or so and a lot
5724s	of the time as may have you will see my
5726s	ever the bit like the first half of the
5727s	game drop pretty low and then pop off
5730s	right because that's just the way the
5731s	hero plays but here he's managing to
5734s	retain health which i think is a super
5737s	big buff to his chances of actually
5738s	getting to end game in a very safe
5741s	health state yeah second omu game now
5744s	for zixo taking a slower curve it seems
5748s	here than he was previously but plenty
5749s	of tavern discount with the swabbies but
5752s	just to finish the maiev point yeah i
5754s	absolutely agree and i think it's
5755s	something that took players a little bit
5757s	of time to work out when maiev was
5758s	introduced to the game because early on
5760s	i think people were like what i mean
5762s	like murloc token beast token if i hear
5764s	a power then i'm making money with my
5766s	hero power that's insane right and
5768s	sellamental came in same thing like wow
5770s	i'd hear about that i'm making profit
5772s	it's hero power gamblers they give me
5774s	three gold later in the game no no no no
5777s	what you want to do is hero power tempo
5779s	minions buy tempo minions so while
5782s	you're doing all this nonsense with
5784s	maiev setting up dormant minions waiting
5786s	for them to come into your hand and then
5787s	greeting triples you're defending as
5789s	much health as you possibly can and
5790s	micro mummies in pairs are about as high
5793s	tempo as it gets on tab and one
5795s	i'm checking in with alucard now on the
5798s	natural cookie uh again
5800s	all the players appear to be you know
5803s	really focused on
5805s	the the board state itself and trying to
5807s	just keep up again it's getting to that
5809s	point where play that there are a good
5812s	chunk of players that will be happy with
5815s	you know just a middle result obviously
5817s	they'd love to win the lobby but just
5819s	happy with the middle result to give
5820s	them the best chance possible at hitting
5822s	20 next turn next turn next their game
5825s	the natural cookie
5827s	expression yeah the uh no preservatives
5830s	no added sugar yeah natural cookie
5834s	i saw something advertised at market not
5836s	too long ago as
5838s	chemical free like food
5840s	what
5841s	everything's made of chemicals what are
5844s	you talking about yeah okay yeah yeah
5847s	yeah that's uh it's
5849s	it's like a weird it's like one of those
5851s	weird things is how literally do you
5853s	take this word
5854s	[Music]
5857s	atom free food
5858s	yes wait a minute
5863s	hey though early siren early uh show
5865s	commander or early ish should i say like
5868s	again the the the best tag team you can
5871s	have at this point in the game
5872s	especially when there's no thieves in
5874s	the in the lobby which is what you're
5876s	looking for
5887s	well dragon's gonna clean this up nicely
5888s	and push a
5890s	okay
5891s	an okay amount of damage but you know uh
5893s	his opponent did manage to save himself
5895s	a little bit
5898s	yeah big deal for the natural cookie
5900s	yeah what are you doing i'm i'm very
5903s	curious what's your plan what does your
5904s	board look like right now what's your
5906s	plan
5908s	okay swabbies
5919s	to be fair
5921s	35 health
5922s	triple frozen in shop discounted tavern
5925s	and now incredibly discounted tavern
5928s	with the hero powers and now the extra
5930s	coins from the shell collector as well
5933s	have it so like having now looked at it
5936s	i would say this is a kind of mediocre
5938s	early game
5940s	for the shadow walk to have found here
5942s	right like very minimal with swabbies
5945s	and naga both in swabbies as if that's a
5948s	minion type on its own it kind of is for
5950s	shadow walk but you get the point yeah
5952s	um only hitting three of those over the
5954s	course of six turns up until this point
5956s	is probably below average
5958s	and he's actually still in a pretty good
5960s	position right like maybe i'm
5962s	undervaluing uh no b shutter walk if the
5964s	other two are in because i've talked
5966s	about the dream shadow walk lobby before
5968s	right um which is beast quills pirates
5971s	and naga if all four of those in
5973s	you win as shutter walk like you just do
5975s	it's just over the game ends you win
5978s	um but maybe just the combination of
5980s	pirate and naga on their own is just
5982s	enough to get those tavern discounts and
5984s	the extra economy to be able to make
5985s	those six drop triples happen it's kind
5986s	of very interesting i will say i think i
5988s	was telling you earlier this morning
5990s	about like i played shadow walk beasts
5992s	were in but i only got what i bought one
5995s	single token beast right and then the
5998s	rest of it was just having reductions
6000s	and i i hit a triple so if you remove
6003s	the beast and just act like well that
6005s	triple is the triple then yeah it's not
6007s	the strongest you can be but it's not
6009s	weak especially if he hits at this you
6011s	know like like straight away like you've
6013s	done the job then who cares about the
6015s	hero power
6016s	just to shout out it might be happening
6020s	this turn right i'm not sure how much
6023s	shudder can hack can get on the other
6025s	side
6026s	with selling minions swabbies
6028s	discounting leveling swabbies
6030s	discounting again coins then going to
6031s	five but it might all be possible this
6033s	turn i'm sure
6036s	yeah here we go
6039s	i mean the buttons are being pressed
6041s	yep down to seven wow he doesn't even
6043s	have to sell that much
6045s	yeah
6046s	he doesn't just to sell at all is the
6048s	reductions just strong crack
6051s	and then coincoin coin bar he actually
6053s	had to sell zero minions to get this
6055s	done okay i am reevaluating my stance on
6059s	shadow walk no beasts as we speak
6062s	you you're watching it happen live
6066s	so
6067s	in a weird way obviously you have to hit
6068s	a triple right like that's very key
6073s	that term wasn't finished come on
6076s	but but in a weird way do you think like
6078s	shell collector
6079s	actually kind of makes up for the lack
6082s	of peace because
6084s	you're gaining those coins as well as
6085s	the tavern reduction so as long as you
6087s	can find a triple you get to do the
6090s	thing right which is the main goal a
6092s	hundred percent why i've been flying the
6094s	shadow walk flag this whole time right
6095s	like since murloc tokens got taken out
6098s	shadow walk has taken a little bit of a
6099s	hit right it was playable with beasts in
6101s	but otherwise
6102s	what you're gonna do and even then it's
6104s	kind of a risk with just beasts sin
6105s	right since naga are introduced and
6107s	because naga are in every lobby you have
6110s	battlecry add a coin to your hand in
6112s	every single lobby which immediately
6114s	throws shudderwock a huge bone in terms
6117s	of wing condition what i hadn't factored
6120s	in
6120s	is the ability to do all that and to
6123s	afford to buy a warrior curve triple
6126s	while leveling
6127s	two extra levels over what everyone else
6130s	is doing on that same span selling
6132s	minions as well without selling anything
6134s	from your board that's ridiculous like
6137s	that's so much more economy than i you
6139s	know i get i say calculated i hadn't
6141s	calculated that's the point
6144s	it's kind of done on feel right and on
6146s	feel it didn't feel like you should be
6148s	able to do that and like i said that was
6150s	below average i would say for number of
6153s	swabbies and shell collectors that you
6154s	would get over the course of a warrior
6156s	curve up until that point so yeah i mean
6160s	yeah you're watching it happen i'm
6162s	changing my mind it does happen
6163s	sometimes believe it or not yeah this is
6166s	their recorded
6170s	believe it or not when presented with
6172s	data and good arguments my mind does
6175s	change it actually happens quite often
6176s	that's what i've been doing wrong that's
6178s	the see that's the thing that's where
6180s	this misconception that you know like
6182s	i'm i'm stubborn and single-minded comes
6184s	from because the only person i get to
6186s	talk to on a regular basis is you and
6188s	why would i change my mind based on
6190s	anything you say it's all nonsense
6193s	i know what i have to do
6196s	let's wait till next time
6199s	okay so again a bit of a mishmash of a
6201s	board here from 60 and under threat
6204s	sitting on just 11 health which means
6206s	even with the shield that's up for
6209s	everyone right now it's just not going
6210s	to be good enough right the damage cap
6212s	just there will still kill six so if
6215s	it's a you know 11 plus so a little bit
6217s	dangerous overall six so also currently
6220s	only sitting on 6.5 points going into
6223s	this game uh which is kind of a fifth
6225s	sixth position right now so if he gets
6227s	knocked out early he will be put back a
6230s	good amount so far in this race to 20.
6233s	yeah absolutely it's once again just a
6235s	very
6236s	scrappy game for zixo not the juice you
6239s	want to be hitting on omu for sure like
6241s	the triple has happened by the looks of
6243s	things and it's hit a fell back and you
6245s	can see the reaction on his face to it
6247s	right like he knows this should have
6249s	been the game
6250s	uh omu finding the early triple tons of
6253s	economy as well with the coins being fed
6255s	into hand but just not finding the win
6257s	condition and speaking of finding the
6259s	win condition the early triple the the
6262s	cadence the leveling pattern had been
6264s	worked out by the maiev and you see that
6267s	beautiful reward of the officer on the
6269s	other side
6270s	yeah and max on that mav is just oh
6275s	excellent final attack from 6-0 sorry to
6277s	cut you off but that was a crucial final
6279s	attack to keep him alive then yeah it
6281s	lives to fight another day should have
6282s	what going down to two health as well
6284s	for jana say but yeah also i was just
6286s	gonna say for max 25 health on may have
6288s	at this point when he's basically set up
6290s	more or less is pretty solid oh
6294s	kitty offered with 2 4 and 11 as three
6297s	players health total left remaining on
6299s	this board can we quickly check uh who
6302s	600 organized uh you know say is
6304s	fighting sorry uh just very very
6306s	interested to see what's going on here
6309s	okay so he's fighting the cookies
6311s	yeah
6313s	hey thank you for that we can go back if
6314s	you want
6323s	it's popped off it's happened
6326s	interestingly enough though he's
6327s	fighting uh ashara so he's gonna be
6330s	fighting all dragon who is currently
6331s	sitting top of the uh the board right
6333s	now but again like is it going to be
6336s	strong enough uh all dragon also has an
6340s	atheist that also has a naga board as
6342s	well that at least a glance to me subtle
6344s	looks like it could just be a little bit
6346s	stronger but with the air with the
6348s	phoebe it looks close
6350s	yeah i mean that single divine shield
6354s	cleave faux reaper kills
6357s	all but one of all dragons minions right
6360s	depend like obviously it's not gonna
6361s	kill six things but essentially if it
6363s	cleaves into any spot that doesn't
6365s	involve the 30-33 it's killing three
6368s	things straight away and staying alive
6369s	right so
6370s	i would imagine that cleave on its own
6373s	is uh is making him favored from this
6375s	position regardless of the rest of the
6376s	board
6379s	the good thing here for all dragon
6380s	though even if he does lose this fight
6381s	he can take it right a lot of the times
6384s	like with 29 he can take a hit and he
6386s	knows with time he scales and he gets
6389s	the first attack off which is a little
6390s	bit unfortunate divine shield
6393s	okay
6395s	absolutely a good old family cleaver
6402s	don't go through the officer cleans up
6405s	the last two minions shadow walk is dead
6408s	did the panda pick the kitty
6412s	oh yeah okay sour king is going to start
6415s	juicing here did zixo die as well that's
6418s	the other crucial question no zixo
6420s	survives so it's just the shadow walk
6422s	that south king is going to get to
6424s	select from take that pho reaper it's so
6428s	big
6432s	he doesn't get to see it of course but
6433s	it has those permanent stat buffs and
6435s	divine shield taunt on it as well i
6437s	believe as permanent enchantment so that
6440s	is huge in terms of overall tempo for
6443s	sour king in this position great pickup
6446s	called it out straight away that kitty
6447s	could have been a huge role uh for south
6450s	king on the turn he got it with three
6451s	players being eligible to die on that
6453s	point it didn't go as well as it could
6455s	have done with xo surviving and with uh
6458s	who was it
6459s	who was the other oh i guess okay i
6461s	realize i'm being stupid because the
6463s	other player who i factored in is having
6465s	11 health was south king himself on that
6467s	yeah
6468s	yeah yeah okay so not as potentially
6470s	high payoff as it could have been but
6472s	still a really really good outcome yeah
6474s	very very solid indeed and just a quick
6477s	note as well jana say taking eighth
6479s	place means he's gonna still sit at a
6481s	minimum of seventh place potentially
6484s	eighth if south king actually continues
6486s	to do well here and survives a little
6487s	bit longer
6493s	i think so
6494s	no surprise just doing what he can
6496s	possibly try and do to survive probably
6498s	going to coin into the leroy yeah it
6500s	makes sense
6501s	and this is this is just the scramble
6503s	comp isn't it just okay give me one more
6505s	turn game one more turn let someone else
6508s	die
6509s	and giving taunt to the
6511s	mounted queen as well which is one of
6513s	the possible roles it could have at
6514s	start of combat if you give taunt to it
6516s	already that increases its chances of
6518s	getting divine shield which is of course
6519s	the one that you really really want
6523s	or dragon now
6524s	huge atheists aboard
6526s	it is turned 10 i mean i've certainly
6528s	seen bigger at this point of the game
6530s	but we haven't really seen the the
6531s	monstrous full board of 40-40 that is
6534s	possible at this point
6536s	but i suppose after the passive scaling
6537s	this isn't actually that far away from
6539s	that at this point there's the divine
6541s	shield that's so clutch but a big first
6544s	trade from the atheista taking out the
6546s	bigger minion before crashing into the
6548s	divine shield yeah it looks like it's
6549s	still going to be good enough
6554s	yeah yeah okay yeah that's going to be
6556s	at six so out and i was going to say
6557s	even the wall dragon's board isn't you
6559s	know at maximum capacity right now he is
6562s	playing ashara which means he gets a one
6564s	goal just discover a naga anyway so as
6567s	soon as he you know he hits another uh
6570s	self-cast sort of generator then it's
6572s	really going to start stacking and there
6574s	goes uh he understand sorry young say on
6576s	that finley as well so he's gonna that
6579s	means
6580s	yeah natural cookie and fully made of
6583s	chemicals cookie both went down in the
6585s	same turn at the end of it all yep
6587s	and successes that's it that was a
6589s	three-player split right on deaths
6593s	maybe some points are shared out across
6594s	the board but now there's just a mill
6597s	house with their dappy that we can see
6598s	now south king
6600s	he's just chocolates again
6603s	it was daffy last game that had gone
6606s	juggling
6608s	funnily enough like
6610s	okay doing okay right he's out he's out
6613s	yeah i think in this case it was just um
6615s	because he's milhouse milhouse is very
6617s	much like
6618s	whatever your shop is on any given turn
6620s	that's what you're bored yeah you play
6622s	what you're given you just buy the stuff
6624s	that you're given you avoid rolling as
6625s	much as humanly possible juggler goes
6627s	out this time to make room for a bit
6629s	more value with the mechs but i think uh
6631s	dappy probably has the distinct
6633s	impression that this is not getting
6636s	there against the uh incoming naga board
6639s	on the other side very very true but
6641s	even if at worst this is like a solo
6644s	fourth place finish for dappy uh
6647s	dappy went into this on 7.5 points
6650s	fourth place on the leaderboard right
6651s	now dropping into the fourth like it's a
6653s	solid setup for for next game right
6658s	looks like triple not being taken
6661s	immediately but is being frozen here for
6664s	uh salking obviously two divine shields
6666s	combining those two permanent divine
6667s	shields into one is not necessarily
6670s	always an upside i do think it is in
6673s	most situations though because it opens
6675s	up that board space for an additional
6677s	spellcraft minion generating spells for
6679s	you at the end of the term which really
6681s	right now salking doesn't really have
6683s	any of apart from that um single glow
6685s	scale on the right hand side which is
6687s	doing the majority of the heavy lifting
6688s	for him right now
6690s	yeah and that's the issue just no siren
6692s	right it is so cymatically reducing down
6694s	his stats per turn
6701s	gonna be good good trades at the end
6704s	yeah good trades at the end for south
6705s	king just to be able to push that little
6706s	bit damage could have been worlds where
6708s	ended up in a tie there and that little
6709s	bit of damage wasn't pushed through but
6711s	i think uh important
6713s	for salking to make hay while the sun
6716s	shines here because i think the other
6717s	players will scale past him in this
6720s	lobby so i think important for him to
6722s	deal damage where he can to try and
6724s	improve his positioning and of course he
6726s	has outlasted the milhouse who i think
6728s	knew exactly what was going to be up
6730s	there for dappy but hey once again tempo
6733s	and mechs and soul jugglers and
6734s	deathrattles has got a player into top
6736s	four so it is starting to come together
6738s	just a little bit that scrap for extra
6741s	points by uh trying to play max tempo in
6743s	positions where you are not hitting
6746s	yeah and it does look like as well there
6747s	sao king
6748s	actually will have the ghost right
6751s	yep if all dragons facing uh max on my f
6754s	it means that there's a chance pretty
6756s	easily that all dragon beats
6759s	max and then salking just sneaks into
6762s	second place
6767s	looking at the board on the other side
6769s	from max though it's very very similar
6773s	it's single ethissa from what we can see
6775s	right now which means even though the
6777s	numbers are currently slightly bigger
6779s	from what we're looking at on max's
6781s	board um or dragon is going to double
6784s	scale at the end of the turn off double
6786s	officer with the sirens so might just
6788s	blow past this
6790s	but i think the fight could actually end
6792s	up being quite close indeed
6794s	and there's the they're mounted right as
6796s	well here for max which you know the
6798s	right attack especially considering um i
6801s	believe
6802s	oh no it's sorry it's yeah yeah there's
6804s	a different player who had the brute
6805s	wasn't it and so yeah the mantid could
6808s	be clutch especially if it manages to
6809s	roll the divine shield
6812s	that's really what max is missing right
6814s	divine shield generation doesn't have a
6816s	glow scale on board
6818s	there's another glitter scale on board
6819s	does have one in hand though and he's
6820s	just gonna give it straight up to the
6822s	mounted queen i always think this is a
6823s	difficult decision because he actually
6826s	could have given the mantid taunt and
6828s	wind fury with the spellcraft that he
6831s	had and then just given the divine
6832s	shield to something else and then
6833s	there's decent odds at that point that
6834s	you just roll the divine shield
6836s	naturally on the poison minion at that
6837s	point but he choose to go as the go with
6839s	the quote safe option of just throwing
6842s	the divine shield poison out there
6843s	straight away
6847s	okay well good hits happening here for
6849s	max anyway oh that was a great hit
6855s	but in the end just not good enough but
6857s	it is survival which means that i but
6860s	one of these two players is going to
6862s	pick up the ghost and i think the other
6864s	one is going to murder salking in this
6866s	position so i believe yeah max now with
6869s	that uh ghost fight is probably going to
6872s	lock himself out second in this position
6874s	oh actually salking has now finally
6876s	found himself a significant amount more
6878s	scaling since we last dropped in really
6880s	using that uh ghost fight to its fullest
6883s	advantage
6884s	he might just have an opportunity here
6886s	to make something happen he's going to
6888s	need some additions to the board for
6890s	sure but i think maybe if this throws a
6892s	triple at him throws a siren at him okay
6895s	that's kind of the next best thing but
6896s	if that was to throw triple fist at him
6898s	if he's able to roll into leroy's from
6900s	this position he might just be able to
6903s	be competitive
6905s	yeah and also when you're against naga
6907s	like just like um
6909s	you expect so much at glow scale on the
6912s	board it means that even if sao king
6915s	went for the siren and wanted to end the
6918s	turn with another siren on board which
6920s	with two uh this is completely fine i've
6922s	done it many many times you can just
6925s	start with the five five or you know
6926s	what if i far or whatever it ends up
6928s	being it's going to be small you can
6929s	start with it and say this will just
6930s	peel a shield doesn't matter what size
6932s	the minion is right it still does the
6934s	same job so you can start with that and
6936s	still get the double cycling buffs from
6938s	the double siren uh i know that's
6940s	something i would have done at least or
6942s	at least had in the pocket if i needed
6944s	it but it appears how king is uh gonna
6946s	choose not to gonna potentially end on
6950s	the archer
6953s	yeah so the only reason to do this is
6955s	that you specifically want the
6957s	uh taunt spellcraft that he picked up
6960s	from the other option that he took the
6962s	argument of well i'm just going to take
6963s	a spellcraft minion because it's a
6964s	spellcraft minion it provides extra
6966s	buffs is nonsense right because the
6968s	siren just provides more buffs yes by
6971s	throwing it in there so the only reason
6973s	to do this the only justifiable reason
6976s	is that you want that extra small taunt
6978s	to play around the big opening attacks
6980s	from the opponent which is valid that is
6982s	a really really big factor in terms of
6984s	uh combat orangy i mean you can look at
6987s	it very yeah you look at it very simply
6988s	right if there's an you see why yeah
6991s	exactly if the leroy goes in and hits
6993s	something important that's a huge deal
6995s	if it's just a small talk minion great
6997s	who cares
7001s	left okay right means oh no there's
7004s	actually too much health on the bridge
7005s	so it is gonna be the win
7007s	so now twice in a row we've actually
7009s	called the uh the second place one turn
7012s	too early all three of these players
7014s	scrapping and now it'll be ashara
7017s	or dragon on ashara who fights the ghost
7019s	and the two players that we've written
7021s	off consecutively back to back are now
7024s	gonna have to fight for their right to
7026s	party raven and they're gonna have to go
7028s	head-to-head against each other we go
7029s	back to south king for just a second and
7031s	i'll just triple check which hero power
7033s	he went for yeah he went for saurfang
7035s	right
7037s	we can push attack or on a small minion
7040s	from like the brute that's how that
7041s	works isn't it
7043s	uh yes but that's not the sourfang hero
7045s	power saofang is one mana ad attack to a
7048s	minion oh it's not southank what i i
7051s	can't remember what hero power it is
7052s	it's the drekthar vandar pair one is
7054s	health one is attack whichever way
7056s	around
7062s	yeah sure i remembered this much better
7063s	when the when there was buddies because
7065s	like the first time i filled it out for
7067s	you um but yeah anyway regardless that's
7069s	a that's potentially a big deal like the
7072s	the increase in the attack by that much
7076s	definitely a big factor
7080s	triple heel is available as well for max
7084s	and again max uh he's gonna gain max
7086s	spellcraft though of course
7088s	lovely stuff yeah
7093s	is he though yeah does he just is he i
7097s	guess he just bails out and plays leroy
7102s	i didn't look at this gold amount
7105s	because i was just staring at the triple
7107s	and assumed he would have enough but
7109s	yeah he doesn't not one he can
7111s	but not enough currently
7114s	and it's such a huge fight right this
7117s	actual fight right now is just so big
7120s	that i just don't think you can afford
7122s	to really greet anything yeah i love
7123s	this decision as long as these
7125s	spellcrafts go through in these last two
7126s	seconds i love the way this has been
7129s	played i love the positioning as well
7131s	that is a lot of really good decision
7133s	making in a very tiny amount of time at
7135s	the end of the turn
7137s	normally i think when you see players
7139s	take too long over a decision there they
7141s	then mess up things like positioning at
7144s	the end right because they're too
7145s	frantically trying to get everything in
7146s	just based on their decision of what
7148s	they're gonna buy despite it not working
7150s	out here for max i really love what he
7153s	did there no divine shields of his own
7155s	so he went with the ghoul into leroy but
7157s	his positioning went gall
7159s	into huge minion of his own that can
7161s	then value trade the divine shield torn
7163s	that your opponent is going to have then
7165s	leroy third to potentially just go into
7167s	the meaty center of the naga board and
7169s	be able to kill like 150 health minion
7172s	so he got everything right in my opinion
7175s	uh based on that final decision making
7177s	in a very very tiny amount of time uh
7179s	but it just wasn't good enough and it's
7181s	going to be south king picking up at the
7182s	least second here but then zephyrus
7184s	three wishes
7186s	finding him the board space tripling the
7188s	officer now and now there is room
7191s	another something
7192s	for example yes another siren to be able
7195s	to take space on this ball but that's
7196s	the question does cell king want more
7199s	scaling here or does he want to end his
7201s	board with a tech card does he want to
7203s	end it with another taunt with a
7206s	another potential even a cleave to take
7208s	off multiple divine shields find a leroy
7210s	something like that there's lots of
7212s	different ways he could go about doing
7213s	this but it looks like he's just going
7215s	to efficiently dump his gold into
7217s	scaling here and hope that it's good
7219s	enough yeah i think he did have limited
7222s	roles to actually decide right i think
7224s	you like he had like a role or so at
7226s	that point to just say well what's
7228s	what's the shop showing me and then i
7229s	would have had
7231s	three i think in total where he would
7234s	still be able to buy like a potentially
7236s	game-winning tech card maybe two i can't
7238s	remember what the interval was at
7239s	exactly but yeah i can't necessarily
7241s	dispute this he has gold and a thistle
7242s	right there's no necessary reason to
7245s	think that you can't scale past your
7247s	opponent right uh however
7250s	quite big over here
7253s	yeah with uh sort of the fleshed-out
7256s	tech cards as well right he's getting
7258s	the taunt on the mounted and still has
7260s	leroy in hand which i imagine it's the
7262s	plan to finish on you this is gonna play
7264s	it looks like he's gonna taunt it up as
7266s	well nice
7268s	very different approach right as to what
7270s	these two players are doing with their
7271s	final turn south king just went for the
7273s	straight up scaling or dragon is teching
7275s	out much more aggressively extra taunts
7278s	extra leroy extra mantid queen we'll see
7281s	which way this pans out cannot read the
7283s	player reaction as the person that will
7285s	be looking at the odds right now but
7287s	that small bumper not going into the
7289s	divine shield poison is a very big deal
7292s	now this is a huge 50 50 no oh the
7295s	divine shield being taken off before the
7297s	attack made it all irrelevant and that
7299s	means that beautiful
7302s	mid-game sequence of attacks from all
7304s	dragon is going to mean that he takes
7306s	down this lobby but congratulations to
7308s	salking on a great recovery game as well
7312s	after his start i think that was a much
7314s	better played game a much more fortunate
7317s	game from his perspective as well some
7318s	good decisions made in the mid game some
7321s	nice hero power roles starting i think
7323s	with that kel'thuzad's kitty right just
7325s	coming out exactly the right time giving
7328s	the foe reaper which allowed him to
7330s	consolidate tempo be aggressive
7332s	transformed into that second place and
7334s	now you can see
7336s	starting to creep up he's off the bottom
7338s	and he's now chasing down zixo and still
7342s	no check in the lobby just yet no one
7344s	hitting that 20 points just yet and look
7347s	how important this is subtle
7349s	alucard due to a you know a pretty you
7352s	know not great game in the last game
7354s	there
7355s	can not
7356s	hit the check number in this next lobby
7359s	whereas all dragon i believe the only
7362s	player who can right and all dragon
7364s	doesn't even need like a win to hit it
7367s	yeah it needs a top four and i think
7369s	over the past two days we've been seeing
7371s	all dragon play uh he has impressed me a
7374s	lot and you can see already just the
7376s	points just steady points nothing too
7378s	crazy even if his worst game so far was
7380s	still three points but then you know a
7382s	six and a seven uh he's put himself in a
7384s	great position and this is what i was
7387s	talking about once you start to hit
7388s	these numbers players can say like oh i
7391s	only need top four then this is where
7394s	the game plan can start to change again
7396s	right where you say well i don't need to
7398s	really go for it if it's offered to me
7400s	fantastic yes i'll try and win the lobby
7402s	but the backup plan is definitely going
7404s	to be there in all dragon's mind and
7406s	specifically you've shouted out rightly
7409s	saying that all dragon has been super
7410s	impressive i said yesterday he was my
7412s	player of the tournament on day one i've
7414s	seen nothing so far that's changed my
7415s	mind but specifically and contextually
7419s	in this situation
7421s	what was the thing that he did that
7423s	impressed us the money
7425s	he took bad games and he turned them
7427s	into top fours which is a skill set
7430s	right now
7431s	that is super exciting when you just
7435s	need four points to put the lobby in
7437s	check because if he gets a good game
7439s	great right top four probably secured we
7442s	enter the check phase of the tournament
7444s	and we move on if he gets a bad game
7447s	that scrappy gas coiler um grey bowed
7451s	stuff that we saw previously the death
7453s	row synergies the tempo with the murlocs
7456s	that we saw those kind of like creative
7458s	ways to turn bad games into top fours if
7461s	he's able to do that again in a bad
7463s	lobby well that's just as good as
7465s	getting a first in this situation with
7467s	high roll nagas because he will still
7470s	put the lobby in check so exactly the
7473s	skills that all dragon demonstrated
7475s	yesterday could now potentially come in
7477s	clutch in this situation to allow him to
7479s	put the lobby in check yeah he's put
7481s	himself in a great position and again
7483s	you know another shout out to uh
7485s	sal king as well he was looking to be in
7488s	a terrible spot and although he's
7490s	nowhere near
7491s	able to put the lobbying check for
7493s	himself he's back in the fight right
7496s	he's still in the mix with a lot of the
7497s	other players especially depending on
7499s	how the next game goes so he's still in
7501s	there and uh janice really now is the
7504s	player who has to uh sort of mimic soul
7506s	king right you know they had a good game
7509s	one but then has failed or trailed off
7512s	miserably in the next two games so he's
7514s	looking sitting alone at six points on
7516s	the bottom of the table so far
7518s	everyone else again really will be
7521s	looking to you know the likes of alucard
7523s	max at dappy as well we'll be looking at
7526s	it in us
7527s	a solid game under their belt in the
7530s	next game because as we said impossible
7532s	for those players to put the lobby in
7534s	check within the next game but they can
7537s	set it up to be in a very comfortable
7539s	position where it can almost be just
7541s	don't seventh or eighth you know just
7543s	grab a few points and then we're in
7545s	check and we're good to go that's all
7547s	they have to do so that each player now
7549s	has very different focuses in the next
7551s	game and then once players get in check
7554s	we'll change the strategy all over again
7556s	it's why i really like this format for
7558s	there to finish off the uh the weekend
7559s	of lobby legends
7561s	yeah and just watching that recap again
7564s	those wind fury attacks from that lava
7566s	lurker was so grimy like taking down one
7569s	huge minion with the divine shield and
7571s	then valley even though it was a bump it
7574s	was a hundred plus stat minion being
7577s	used essentially as a bumper is what
7580s	that attack was taking off a divine
7582s	shield but because that was a value
7583s	trade bump taking that divine shield off
7585s	it made the rest of the combat rng
7587s	basically irrelevant at that point
7589s	because no matter where that attack went
7591s	it didn't have divine shield so it would
7593s	have died to the leroy that would have
7594s	been fine regardless but because the
7596s	divine shield was taken off it would
7598s	have then died to the mantid queen
7599s	because i was about to say this is an
7601s	insane 50 50 coming up on the next
7604s	attack but that bump from the lava
7606s	lurker just absolutely changed
7607s	everything gave all dragon that lobby
7609s	and now has put us in that position
7611s	where everything we've been saying for
7612s	the last two or three minutes or so has
7614s	become true
7615s	or dragon in a really good position now
7618s	to become the threat right in this lobby
7621s	and then the tournament changes because
7624s	then all dragon has a target on his back
7628s	and everyone will be trying their best
7633s	oh okay i could you know try and power
7634s	level this turn oh i'm facing all dragon
7636s	tempo minions go
7638s	let's try beat him up but although we
7641s	cannot say it is halfway through the day
7643s	like it was yesterday and we are going
7645s	to go just a bit of a longer break just
7646s	give obviously the players have been uh
7648s	you know grinding pretty hard so far in
7650s	these past three games so just give
7651s	everyone a little bit of a longer break
7653s	just you know go and grab a snack go and
7655s	do whatever they need to do and just
7656s	stand up and maybe walk around for a
7658s	minute or two but uh don't go anywhere
7660s	we will be back to continue lobby
7662s	legends noble god
7665s	[Music]
7672s	oh it's good to have you back can i get
7674s	you anything
7682s	[Music]
7690s	it's a good time to hire some new
7692s	minions
7695s	what a great addition to your team leroy
7699s	[Music]
7703s	you can't go wrong with that one
7705s	[Music]
7709s	a solid
7712s	[Music]
7715s	beneath the choice
7717s	follow your queen
7719s	[Music]
7720s	your new recruit is ready to go
7724s	[Music]
7730s	victory never tasted sweeter
7737s	[Music]
7771s	[Music]
7778s	hmm
7781s	[Music]
7825s	[Music]
7833s	[Music]
7835s	[Applause]
7836s	[Music]
7841s	[Applause]
7844s	[Music]
7845s	[Applause]
7859s	[Music]
7866s	[Music]
7888s	[Music]
7919s	hey
7921s	[Music]
7926s	foreign
7929s	[Music]
7975s	[Music]
7983s	[Music]
7985s	[Applause]
7987s	[Music]
7992s	[Applause]
7995s	[Music]
7995s	[Applause]
8010s	[Music]
8016s	[Music]
8038s	[Music]
8052s	foreign
8065s	[Music]
8072s	[Music]
8079s	foreign
8082s	[Music]
8126s	[Music]
8134s	[Music]
8136s	[Applause]
8137s	[Music]
8142s	[Applause]
8145s	[Music]
8145s	[Applause]
8160s	[Music]
8166s	[Music]
8189s	[Music]
8222s	[Music]
8233s	foreign
8236s	[Music]
8280s	we are back and ready to jump into game
8283s	number four just to give a brief recap
8286s	keeping it nice and simple uh all dragon
8288s	has the ability to go to 20 or more
8291s	points in this game which means after
8293s	this game if he does reach 20 or more
8296s	points he will put the lobby in check
8298s	which means if he wins a lobby after
8301s	that he will win the whole tournament
8304s	all of the other players here and still
8306s	need to win at l or do well in at least
8309s	two more games to be able to get to that
8311s	20-point marker so really subtle as we
8314s	get into this one although we will of
8316s	course be covering all the players the
8318s	focus has to be on our dragon for this
8320s	one
8321s	it does yeah the focus has largely been
8324s	on all dragon for a good chunk of the
8325s	tournament for good reason i think he's
8327s	been
8328s	a standout competitor but yes certainly
8331s	i think the call to arms will go out
8333s	that the focus will be on all dragon not
8335s	just for us not just for the observer
8337s	not just for the broadcast but
8340s	for the other players as well because
8342s	they don't have to wait until he puts
8344s	the lobby in check to start targeting
8346s	they can do it now if they really want
8348s	to
8349s	oh yep that's what i was if you few
8352s	viewers at home saw me look to the side
8354s	weirdly as subtle's talking to us and
8356s	laugh it's because i saw all dragon's
8358s	hero choices uh before we saw it on
8361s	screen here so yes the options of ashara
8364s	or omu when you want to be able to try
8366s	and get a decent finish is huge
8369s	i absolutely love that decision as well
8372s	i don't think that was a difficult
8373s	decision but i do think it was a correct
8375s	one
8376s	two heroes with game-winning potential
8379s	right but he doesn't need a game win he
8381s	needs a top four so
8384s	uh ashara yes can win lobbies but can
8387s	also top eight quite regularly
8388s	especially with dragons out as you see
8391s	up on the top there as well dragons
8392s	being the best way to get that quest
8394s	online for queen ashara omu
8397s	does not top eight that often you know
8399s	the ability to level and actually buy
8402s	vanilla strong minions earlier than most
8404s	opponents actually gives you decent
8406s	tempo in the mid game as well if that's
8408s	what you want so in terms of picking a
8410s	hero that can win the lobby can just be
8412s	strong and just not have a worry in the
8414s	world if you triple into the six but
8416s	also having a hero with a plan b that
8419s	makes omu much better than ashara in
8422s	that position in my mind good choice
8423s	from all dragon and also we got beasts
8426s	no sure the one
8429s	at least once today we we shall get this
8432s	uh uh janice has gone for the daryl uh
8435s	which is a
8437s	we've seen to be a decent pick at
8439s	getting a okay finish but yeah i say
8442s	currently sitting
8443s	at the bottom of the leaderboard at
8445s	least for me needs much more than an
8447s	okay finish but he also needs good
8449s	points over multiple games anyway so i
8452s	guess uh i didn't catch his overall
8454s	choices but him just saying okay i'm
8456s	going to pick daryl and even if i get a
8458s	fourth or a fifth that's still stacking
8461s	points
8462s	um hooktusk is my single favorite hero
8464s	in the history of battlegrounds by the
8466s	way it's the one that i'm going to have
8468s	the most opinions on
8469s	but i was very interested just in again
8472s	very micro decision making at the start
8473s	of the game that uh uh
8476s	rolled with one gold remaining there
8478s	having a hero power available and a coin
8481s	in hand because without that role
8484s	if this situation happened where you
8486s	hear a power of minion and you hear a
8487s	power it back into shell collector you
8489s	then have one gold remaining because you
8491s	haven't rolled and you have two coins in
8492s	your hand so you could have
8493s	theoretically bought a whole other
8495s	minion on that turn if you hadn't have
8497s	taken that role if exactly this outcome
8499s	happened which i just thought was
8501s	something worth thinking about
8505s	go back go back
8507s	what's happening
8509s	uh okay interesting hero power does
8512s	nothing really here um
8515s	helpfully the board has been covered up
8516s	but if you didn't see what i was
8517s	reacting to there he uh rolled the
8520s	quadruple in shop with the uh two shell
8522s	collectors coming out there so i'm
8524s	imagining this will be a big old freeze
8526s	and level from here yes it will be okay
8528s	lorinda you may move on go ahead
8531s	you know what dealer's choice wait where
8532s	you go where are you going to go with
8533s	the next uh with the next hero yeah we
8536s	are going to go back to alucard on the
8538s	cookie
8539s	aloo card currently in at second place
8542s	with 12.5 points uh so honestly
8546s	who just okay finishes in a row will uh
8549s	can be his uh you almost guaranteed path
8552s	to 20 points here
8554s	south king three on three by the way as
8556s	you can see over on the left hand side
8558s	there three on three meaning generally
8559s	it will involve buying a token minion on
8561s	turn one and then leveling on turn two
8563s	and then selling uh half of your token
8565s	minion on uh turn three to then level to
8568s	tavern three straight away another
8570s	factor that we haven't really seen that
8572s	much of because what are the token
8574s	minions well they're
8576s	uh elementals they're pirates
8578s	technically for the purposes we're
8579s	talking about and their beasts the
8581s	things that we haven't been seeing for
8583s	the entire tournament and it is in fact
8585s	beast this time looking over at south
8587s	king's board there is a tabby cat hidden
8589s	behind this gale wing discover
8592s	so this is a great curve option i think
8595s	for gale wing to go with the discover
8597s	into three on three because that way you
8599s	get to get three
8601s	theoretically tavern three minions if
8604s	bob is kind to you with the role however
8606s	bob has not been kind with the role here
8608s	it's gonna have to be acolyte bird
8610s	person
8612s	uh going with the option here for south
8614s	king only that solitary beast in play
8616s	but it is going to be a good amount of
8618s	juice for that tabby cat with the uh
8620s	revenge of the bird person going off
8621s	yeah also just a final quick note on uh
8624s	sao king he did go for another minion
8626s	discover from the gale wing choice right
8629s	so he isn't going to be going for that
8630s	uh tavente reduction or anything at
8633s	least for the near future and jumping
8635s	over to dappy though as well very
8636s	aggressive very wide board again uh
8639s	mayev trying to protect health whilst
8642s	setting up triple setting up those
8644s	timings for the leveling up and we see
8647s	uh he's gonna forgo the hero power this
8649s	turn
8650s	whoa
8651s	more so than that
8653s	it was sellamental
8655s	over a micro mummy pair which is
8658s	kind of exactly the opposite of what i
8660s	was advocating for in the previous game
8663s	right and we'll continue to advocate for
8664s	now he's taken an economy minion
8667s	instead of a a pair which pairs turn
8669s	into triples which is maiev's primary
8671s	business but also micro mummy is just
8674s	more tempo than selemento over the
8676s	course of the game right with that extra
8678s	one attack going through so a decision
8680s	that i'm not necessarily on board with
8682s	in that spot and look at what max has
8686s	been offered here the siren whilst
8688s	already sort of
8689s	naturally progressed into a you know
8692s	decent naga opening honestly right the
8694s	sirens there the snails there for the
8696s	tempo and the lava's there to start
8698s	building up as well uh there's
8700s	spellcrafter every single turn as well
8703s	with the mini mermaden like this is
8705s	looking pretty good at least as a
8708s	starter it's like a starter set to
8709s	really get going and we'll probably
8711s	allow max i imagine to just just keep
8714s	pressing the level button at this point
8717s	you would think so yeah you don't
8718s	necessarily even have to go to six as
8721s	toki though because of that ability to
8722s	just see a six
8725s	i think if you can get there sure
8726s	because you know
8728s	one six drop option per turn isn't
8730s	necessarily going to keep up with what
8732s	other people can do
8734s	and generally in this meta even though
8736s	you know galaxy those kind of characters
8739s	can get sixes without being on six you
8741s	don't discover sixes from orgasoa
8744s	without being on six so your long-term
8746s	value of what you can get out of your um
8750s	your discovers over the course of the
8752s	game are heavily influenced by that
8753s	ability to level to six so you do
8755s	generally still want to be doing it and
8757s	and basically the timing will just be
8759s	based on how comfortable he feels right
8761s	like that's all it really is uh it looks
8763s	like uh yonsei is gonna get one kill on
8766s	there to just protect himself a little
8768s	bit but he's going to be starting to
8769s	stack in that leveling as well because
8771s	6-0 uh did he just tear to three
8774s	or six already on three there not quite
8777s	sure i thought he was on two for a
8778s	second
8779s	uh i believe he was on three already
8781s	yeah um iana say still absolutely tavern
8784s	one daryling right now i'm wondering if
8786s	we are looking at a bunch of tricksters
8788s	hanging around on his board right now
8791s	he has a huge trickster there's one huge
8793s	trick to one huge potbot yeah all right
8795s	makes sense
8797s	oh hello
8799s	we've found a nomi game apparently
8803s	a relatively early as with a good board
8806s	for it as well with those elemental
8808s	cycles
8809s	too bad at all oh yeah he's now got two
8812s	imps okay
8814s	oh it's such a good derral lobby
8816s	actually now that i look at it tavern
8818s	one daryl like this is so good
8820s	with uh sellies and
8823s	uh cats in and with the both payoff
8826s	minions like this is the dream right
8827s	because essentially
8828s	what daryl wants in this position is a
8832s	economy units where you have both of the
8834s	great economy units um in this elemental
8837s	and the tabby cat this time for this
8839s	purposes this is kind of the swobby
8840s	paradox swabi is not an economy unit in
8843s	this regard because you're not
8844s	interested in leveling and it doesn't
8846s	actually give you extra daryl tempo in
8848s	this position um but both beasts and
8851s	elementals being in are great for the
8852s	actual economy of doing derral things
8855s	but then both of the payoff minions as
8857s	well with demons for trickster and mechs
8860s	for putt-pot are both in on tavern one
8862s	as well so set for the second time i
8865s	think guyanasey has identified a derral
8867s	window and then leapt through that
8869s	window right this is an extremely good
8872s	tavern one daryl i would say and a good
8874s	uh good option for yana say to have gone
8876s	for him yeah and even though you know we
8878s	talked about certain players bullying
8880s	other players out of the game early the
8882s	nature of sticking on tavern one means
8884s	that a lot of you damage you know it's
8886s	not like you're gonna be hitting for 10
8887s	plus or anything like that but you are
8889s	softening everyone up so that when they
8892s	do lose to a different player
8893s	potentially they will then either take
8896s	the hit to die or bring them below that
8898s	15 there that's our 15 barrier that
8901s	we're all looking at and meanwhile
8902s	though there's
8903s	all dragon chunking some damage into
8906s	dappy
8907s	and this looks like it is going to be
8909s	the myev turn that triple is available
8912s	is dabby just looking for more for more
8915s	token shooters as well again it just
8918s	looks like it because of the and the
8919s	yeah the neck
8921s	yeah this time it looks like dappy is
8923s	setting himself up for a win condition
8924s	and he does hit it as well gets that
8927s	fisa currently does have the full four
8930s	naga package on board as well
8933s	and that means that this is going to
8934s	offer the full buff
8936s	i was just about to say it feels like it
8938s	might be time for an all dragon update
8941s	this is your all dragon update yep we
8942s	are feeling good if we are all dragging
8945s	over right now
8946s	leveling up as omud good amount of tempo
8949s	as well defending with the savannah
8951s	jaime and the meccano tank this is kind
8953s	of exactly the kind of board i was
8954s	expecting to see right or dragon doesn't
8956s	necessarily have to panic about setting
8959s	up greedy triples he can just level and
8962s	take good minions as they're offered to
8964s	him as omu and if it ends up not working
8966s	out and he ends up getting fourth
8967s	because of it job done it's the perfect
8970s	display of how the final day of lobby
8972s	legends evolves as the games are played
8974s	out and the strategies do change and
8977s	yeah i think this is absolutely perfect
8979s	he doesn't need to do anything too crazy
8981s	he needs to just push people out of the
8984s	game and when you've got the likes of
8985s	you know a siren if fine but like the
8987s	savannah high main specifically the tank
8990s	as well on the end like those are
8992s	minions if they live they hit hard right
8994s	like they had a significant amount of
8996s	damage they're already on tavern tier v
8998s	as well so it's gonna be plus five from
9000s	the hero it's huge
9002s	last comment on this as well the power
9005s	of siren like see a siren by a siren
9008s	right zero synergy on this entire board
9011s	but all dragons just like you know what
9013s	first and foremost it's a 5-4
9015s	secondly it's one of the best cards in
9017s	the game for late game win conditions so
9019s	i'm gonna pick it up now even though i
9021s	have zero payoff for it on board
9023s	currently i do feel like siren is the
9025s	school teacher of battlegrounds isn't it
9028s	you just look at it see what it does you
9029s	like one why is that so cheap as in
9032s	taventer for now two why the stats so
9034s	good as well like why does this thing do
9036s	everything it's insane
9038s	small correction raven what you do is
9040s	you look at it you read it and based on
9043s	your understanding of hearthstone
9044s	interactions uh you go oh that doesn't
9046s	actually seem that good based on the way
9048s	the card is worded then you find out
9050s	it's worded incorrectly um and then you
9053s	realize that it's absolutely broken
9056s	yep checks out
9058s	yeah
9061s	if uh people are unclear what i'm
9062s	talking about there's a precedent kind
9064s	of set and constructed where it matters
9066s	who casts a spell like whether york
9068s	casts the spell you cast the spell boner
9071s	casts the spell that matters for various
9073s	interactions um and the way the cards
9076s	are worded the officer plus uh siren
9079s	interaction should not work the way that
9081s	it does based on the wording it is
9083s	confirmed to be intended to work like
9085s	that though it's not a bug it's just for
9086s	me the wording is wrong
9089s	if anyone see any further thoughts on
9091s	that when things like this happen soul
9094s	gets upset and does not let them go
9097s	opportunity
9099s	perfect by the way also apologies for
9101s	yesterday though i will hold my hands up
9103s	literally in the middle of the night i
9104s	realized i was being dumb about the reef
9107s	explorer interaction because rules as
9109s	written a malgadon can only or malcolm
9112s	can only register as one minion type for
9114s	each particular instance of anything
9116s	happening right otherwise a jug would
9119s	buff an amalgam three times if they were
9121s	the only two minions in play which isn't
9123s	what happens so when reef explorers
9125s	played an amalgam's on board it just
9127s	registers that amalgam as any given
9129s	minion type that's not on your board at
9131s	that point and then offers from the
9133s	remaining pool so i was wrong on that
9135s	one i take that one back
9136s	i'm glad you said i i did know this i
9138s	just didn't want to embarrass you in
9139s	front of everybody yeah yeah yeah yeah
9141s	that's fine yeah
9143s	looks like uh yonsei's going up against
9146s	to max on that toki and and max is uh
9148s	popping off as well this is going to be
9150s	a draw but again the big difference here
9152s	is although they drew the fight the
9154s	power level isn't necessarily equal
9157s	because beyonce is doing great with the
9159s	elementals with the early know me like
9161s	that's not even a question but i i truly
9164s	believe and i think most people do
9167s	nothing outscales the full end game naga
9170s	board right like it's the maximum
9172s	scaling you can have in the game so at
9175s	some point it will just win i've
9177s	literally had a lobby where um i
9181s	queued into a reno on their triple into
9184s	five golden enomy turn and just thought
9187s	to myself well that guy's dead and then
9189s	they ended up like getting fourth i
9191s	think overall and just yeah they like
9193s	with golden nomi on curve as reno they
9196s	got fourth like they they just it just
9199s	does not scale up against uh naga that's
9201s	kind of just the goal of what you're
9203s	doing at that point
9204s	it also doesn't help that especially
9206s	elementals have very predictable board
9208s	states
9210s	you you know what the board's going to
9212s	look like so it's always easy to
9214s	actually uh you know maneuver your board
9216s	around that we do see the yoga zoa be
9219s	offered here to alucard but again
9221s	alucard's got a
9223s	bit of a mixed bag currently like
9225s	rocking a mech comp i guess is the
9228s	the way is mex nothing too buff too much
9230s	apart from a very high damage pop pop
9233s	oh
9234s	just noticed
9236s	uh from the corner of my eye can we just
9238s	uh take a quick look at max because i
9240s	feel like we have not dipped into this
9242s	recently and it is absolutely popping
9245s	off
9248s	yeah that is max wait what's happened
9250s	here that's very strange
9252s	yeah i was gonna say hang on a minute
9253s	like that is max on the toki and i'm not
9256s	even sure
9257s	normally the camera mix-up happens when
9259s	you try and switch rapidly but i'm not
9261s	sure if that was the case here but yes
9262s	this is max that we are looking at that
9264s	looks like the board to beat right now
9266s	right the toki has hit very very hard in
9270s	this one
9270s	exactly and this is what i was saying
9272s	right he just previous to this he drew a
9275s	fight against beyonce but
9277s	it doesn't matter because he will just
9279s	win eventually right because this
9280s	scaling gets truly truly ridiculous he
9284s	gets the divine shield hit on the both
9285s	high main as well there so not too bad
9288s	so far and there's just enough stats
9291s	right like golden bird person is great i
9293s	am a big fan but
9295s	it's just not going to be enough
9298s	there's dappy moving over the second
9300s	account actual dappy this time yes
9303s	apologies for the little camera mix-up
9305s	but that means maiev is going to take
9307s	down cookie again cookie not having a
9310s	good time today it seems honestly based
9312s	on these results we've seen uh cookie
9315s	top hating here and we've seen cookie
9317s	and finley cookie both bottom fouring in
9319s	the same lobby i believe previously so
9322s	cookie not currently having a great time
9323s	of it
9330s	a big upset i imagine fair alucard there
9333s	as well he's gonna gain zero points and
9335s	he was going into this lobby in second
9337s	place on 12.5 so now he needs at minimum
9341s	another two games
9343s	right
9344s	to get there he needed any points
9347s	to put him within like that that sort of
9349s	reach of okay a lobby win and max can
9352s	get me to 20 points now he needs another
9355s	two games at minimum for him there but
9358s	yeah all dragon
9360s	two good job here
9361s	major points to look at here firstly all
9364s	dragon has hit again right he's in a
9366s	great spot however and it's a big
9369s	however
9371s	look at the opponent
9372s	that is max on toki on the other side
9376s	and this is the board that's presented
9378s	on the other side all dragon loses here
9381s	i'm very confident of that the question
9385s	is does all dragon take 15 and
9387s	considering if you go across this board
9390s	that's tavern three and then six six
9393s	five five five five
9395s	what do you kill here that actually gets
9398s	enough off the board that you don't take
9400s	15. i think all dragon's dead
9406s	wait isn't it six six six six five five
9409s	does that know what i said he said six
9411s	six five five five okay yeah my bad six
9413s	six six six five for a second then i was
9414s	like i thought i was prepared for this
9416s	tournament
9418s	everything yeah was just a five drop
9421s	decided to make that mistake again yeah
9424s	oh no
9425s	yeah it is not looking good the sheer
9427s	volume of divine shields as well on this
9429s	board not only is he winning on stats
9432s	as well and this is monstrous can even
9435s	kill the growth scale i mean it doesn't
9437s	matter but he got one
9439s	and this is where max opens the lobby
9441s	chat types you're welcome to everyone
9443s	looks smug
9445s	we will continue
9447s	no one else can put this lobby in check
9450s	this time around so that means we are
9451s	going to go one more game without anyone
9454s	having the threat of winning the
9455s	tournament right now that is such a huge
9458s	deal or dragon going down in bottom four
9461s	meaning he will have to wait at least
9462s	one more game to put the lobby in check
9465s	yeah and uh say hey uh
9469s	kind of deceptively doing well i think
9471s	right like he is doing very well he will
9474s	almost certainly i just i'll say
9477s	honestly you could phrase that the other
9479s	way i think deceptively doing badly
9481s	might be a better way of putting it
9483s	because he's in first place with 40
9485s	health but he's not winning i can tell
9487s	you that right now i think there's a
9490s	decent chance that he can steal you know
9492s	at least a third here yeah third fourth
9495s	i think is where he will end up this
9496s	lobby for sure if he can he has enough
9498s	health
9499s	to start losing to the naga players now
9502s	if needs be and probably still outlast
9504s	enough people right to end up in that
9506s	third place
9507s	i mean you've got to imagine you know he
9508s	needs to survive two fights right to to
9511s	outlast at least another player
9515s	is going to be getting away with it this
9517s	time though going up against the ghost
9518s	so he's likely to survive to fight
9520s	another day
9527s	our king scrapping
9529s	love to see it as well this game has not
9531s	come together at all uh he had a very
9534s	nice clean three on three curve uh with
9537s	the gale wing and the alley cat on one
9539s	but then that tavern three shop was just
9541s	so miserable like bird buddy is great
9544s	tempo sorry what's a bird buddy a bird
9546s	person is such great tempo
9549s	uh usually in most normal healthy
9551s	situations in this it's just you know
9554s	not good enough to compete with what
9556s	everyone else is chucking out so you do
9557s	kind of have to resign to your yourself
9559s	to this kind of give up board that we're
9560s	seeing here from south king but i think
9562s	he's doing exactly the right thing and
9564s	doing it very well yeah i think that
9566s	divine shield was a very it was a
9568s	reasonably difficult choice obviously
9570s	very good he had it on now because the
9572s	overkill that's not it
9576s	hey all right
9582s	okay
9584s	needs to not go right from salking's
9586s	perspective does go immediately right
9590s	can still clear up most of this will
9593s	survive
9594s	yeah very very important does stay alive
9597s	lives to fight another day scraps an
9598s	extra point potentially out of this and
9600s	yeah you pointed out the really big
9602s	decision there which was positioning
9604s	plus divine shield choice right
9607s	understanding that leading with the
9609s	cleave elemental the wildfire elemental
9611s	was a big possibility so taunted leroy
9614s	farr right next to a divine shield that
9616s	was a super clutch decision for salking
9619s	to make in that spot
9621s	and then just uh quickly the last point
9624s	on sao king
9625s	he's against ghost now which i think is
9627s	comp is very capable of taking out the
9630s	you know any of the other three players
9631s	which everyone is fighting so um that's
9634s	a really good spot for him to maybe
9635s	outlast and move up to at least a fourth
9638s	as well and sal king is in great need of
9641s	any potential points he can get to try
9642s	and catch up
9646s	now is jon say going to be the next
9648s	victim of max
9650s	looks like it
9652s	again
9653s	yeah these stuff these stats look great
9655s	if we could rewind time a little bit
9657s	right it
9658s	looks like a solid board but when you
9660s	know you're against there's someone
9661s	who's been sat on naga for a long time
9664s	it just won't add up
9667s	yeah max just uh channeling taz right
9670s	now it's very much a matter of beat me
9672s	if you can survive if i let you for
9674s	every one of max's opponents right now
9676s	it you absolutely
9678s	have to dodge that opponent if you're
9680s	going to make your way up this rankings
9682s	because we have very much reached the
9683s	stage where i think max is just going to
9685s	be dealing 30 odd damage to every single
9687s	opponent in every single fight from this
9689s	point onward
9691s	i like this they're like yeah i'm just
9693s	going to go for it
9696s	either we did see as well just looking
9697s	at the leaderboard that janazei did take
9699s	some damage as the daryl
9702s	it's mostly love
9704s	was just offered to know me as like nah
9706s	light fang for an extra plus two plus
9709s	two this turn
9711s	great
9713s	ah that's great
9716s	good
9717s	luck
9719s	oh it's countering the mounted with the
9720s	acolytes perfect look at this
9722s	positioning
9723s	insane yeah that's definitely gonna
9725s	matter
9729s	and it's gone
9730s	i'm not even close that doesn't mean you
9733s	can't say it's going to get knocked out
9734s	here but let's see if anyone joins him
9737s	because sixxo is uh potentially under
9739s	threat as well is sal king who's against
9741s	the ghost
9742s	i think so going up against the daryl
9745s	from janice
9747s	and only pushing a very small amount of
9750s	damage as well which means daryl does
9752s	absolutely live on to fight another day
9754s	only down to 16 at this point there is
9757s	that top four that i was talking about
9759s	now does daryl fight the toki no zixo
9762s	fights the toki which means it looks
9765s	like daryl is gonna get out of this one
9767s	very possibly with that third place
9770s	maybe even a second
9775s	yeah it's kind of it's really impressive
9776s	if i was piece this together honestly
9779s	and just managed to hold enough health
9781s	as you said even losing a few fights
9784s	which you expect to do at this point in
9785s	the game with tier one minions on the
9787s	board basically
9789s	is going to be enough
9790s	taunt spellcraft for your golden
9792s	trickster is got to be at least
9794s	appealing on this turn right
9797s	let's go past it wow okay
9800s	yeah i mean
9801s	so here's my question
9804s	maybe it's answered now
9806s	what is he looking for that would be
9808s	better than that is pirate
9811s	maybe the answer
9814s	uh parrot is definitely an answer yes uh
9817s	the triple pop bar is obviously
9818s	fantastic as well like i think the the
9821s	plain answer to that is just really an
9825s	additional dance target right because he
9828s	looks at his opponent here and says okay
9831s	uh sal king on gayle wing is the weak
9833s	player in this lobby so i don't
9834s	necessarily need to panic right now to
9836s	win this fight i think i can win this
9839s	fight anyway so i'm gonna turn down that
9841s	torn spellcraft to just look for more
9843s	dance targets going forward
9845s	when we start talking about well you
9846s	know pop bop para more tricksters
9848s	whatever these are those potential dance
9850s	targets that he can look for but i think
9852s	in general the answer was just i think
9854s	i'm going to win this fight anyway so
9856s	i'm going to be greedier and just look
9858s	for more
9859s	dance targets going forward yeah like
9860s	instead of fighting to survive you
9862s	progress your game plan right like it
9864s	does make sense if you feel you are
9865s	favored and suddenly that is the biggest
9868s	that is not a mini mermaid anymore is it
9870s	but the name needs to change
9872s	good old maxi mermadon
9875s	maximus
9877s	they call me maximus mermadis meridius
9884s	commander of the legion of baby murlocs
9889s	and there's the pale is this even eight
9892s	though it is currently
9893s	it is currently exactly eight and will
9896s	be eight because yeah the pop-pop cannot
9898s	even die from this position
9901s	congratulations daryl you killed a
9903s	person well done
9906s	yeah
9908s	it does mean there is going to
9910s	realistically lock in a second place and
9913s	honestly yeah yeah it's like this is
9915s	basically a win
9917s	it really is yeah oh he got to kill bob
9920s	as well way
9922s	the first bob kill of the tournament
9924s	well done jana say that's that's the
9926s	check box
9927s	no idea what causes that but
9929s	occasionally your opponent just blows up
9930s	twice and then bob blows up in the tap
9932s	and it's great i really double tap
9935s	exactly
9940s	honestly if i was yelling say here
9943s	i'd just pick whatever the funniest play
9945s	is because i would not feel confident in
9947s	beating max in any single way yeah i
9950s	mean what it is is triple into baron and
9951s	pray right that's the way
9954s	i think like that it's not gonna be good
9956s	enough i don't think but i think that is
9958s	the win condition for sure i would have
9959s	loved to have seen it to get the
9960s	question answered but
9962s	uh looking over to my left hand side of
9964s	my tracker uh i can answer the question
9966s	for you no no it wouldn't have worked
9968s	even if he had the barrel
9972s	look at the state of it the absolute
9975s	state of this board
9979s	that's what's so crazy about how strong
9981s	a thistle and the siren combo is is that
9984s	even this four seven serves a grand
9986s	purpose right it casts a spell
9989s	throws a million buffs out everywhere
9992s	and it's a bumper which in this meta the
9995s	opening bumper or opening attacks are
9997s	super important right they make such a
9999s	big impact on the outcome of most fights
10002s	especially when you know the divine
10004s	shield taunts are so you know reliable
10006s	in this matter that even this like look
10008s	why has it got this many stats he only
10009s	put on the board this
10011s	turn yep
10013s	i mean look at the show commander right
10015s	when he stopped doing things that show
10018s	commander was a hundred hundred it
10019s	gained 30 30 in passive stats just for
10023s	existing at the end of the turn
10026s	quite literally you could role play afk
10029s	for the rest of the game and still out
10031s	scale every other method of gaining
10034s	stats in the game it's so absurd it's
10036s	like the ultimate like participation
10038s	trophy isn't it you just turn up and
10040s	you're like you know what there you go
10041s	30 stats you earned this thanks for
10044s	coming but yeah max of course taking the
10046s	victory to be expected as the year the
10049s	soul naga player left and the strongest
10052s	player by far in that game and that's a
10055s	huge victory as any victories are right
10058s	now because it just it boosts you so
10060s	much closer towards those 20 points
10062s	right edge taking a quick glance we will
10064s	get it up in a second but that puts max
10066s	on i believe 18.5
10068s	so he has to just not completely mess up
10072s	and then he is almost certainly likely
10074s	to transfer to that 20 points but this
10076s	is also subtle now a different turning
10079s	point in the day where multiple players
10082s	can put the lobby in check in this next
10085s	game of battlegrounds here so this is
10088s	when the spice really starts to get
10089s	crazy because it's not only about oh we
10092s	look at all dragons see what he does now
10093s	it's like well hang on we need to look
10095s	at
10096s	a b and c player at least to see if they
10098s	can make it because different
10099s	configurations of placements will
10102s	dramatically change how many people have
10104s	a chance to just win the tournament
10107s	yeah it's a huge deal of course like all
10109s	dragon failed in the primary condition
10111s	of get top four and then put the lobby
10112s	in check but he didn't get eighth so
10114s	he's now closer and now that idea of
10116s	well just don't get eighth doesn't just
10118s	apply to max it also applies to all
10120s	dragon eventually we're gonna hit the
10122s	point where it's impossible because
10123s	there'll be multiple players available
10126s	who just have to not get eight to put
10128s	the lobby in check and it's guaranteed
10129s	to happen right we'll reach critical
10131s	mass we are creeping toward that point
10134s	already and you can see here this was
10137s	the big moment max with the absolute
10140s	murder board on toki
10142s	putting all dragon to sleep omu looked
10145s	like a very safe top four up into that
10147s	point but it was just the match up rng
10150s	right any other opponent on the board i
10152s	think that turn and all dragon would
10155s	have been in business he got the
10157s	absolute bully of the lobby at that
10159s	point max on toki and was taken out
10161s	proceedings and that's not to say any
10163s	other opponent he would have won is any
10165s	other opponent and even if he lost the
10167s	fight he probably wouldn't die which is
10170s	again just by far the most important
10172s	thing we did see again though a mixture
10175s	of these strategies right we saw the
10177s	approach from daryl
10178s	uh from the uh yannick's pickup of daryl
10181s	and i think that was very very good and
10183s	he got massively rewarded for this play
10185s	and and this choice in the opening there
10188s	even though he was in a bit of a rougher
10190s	spot going into this game and we saw
10192s	some of the b strategies there from the
10194s	gale wing player which was uh salking
10196s	again doing a good job as well just
10198s	securing some points your minimum of top
10200s	four top three and to be able to just
10202s	start stacking on these points so the
10204s	combination of south king and janice are
10206s	actually doing the job in this one game
10209s	has really helped them both out
10211s	massively sort of pull them back towards
10213s	the middle of the pack and try and give
10215s	them these bad chances at reaching those
10217s	20 points
10219s	yeah really really interesting late game
10221s	stay obviously we saw the one-sided um
10226s	fight at the very end uh with you know
10228s	daryl trickster not really doing
10230s	anything but you saw
10232s	how delighted diana say was when he won
10234s	his fight he counted to eight he got the
10236s	opponent dead and then he waited for the
10238s	outcome to see if the other player at
10240s	zixo in this case i believe was going to
10242s	die as well and he was absolutely
10244s	delighted to finish second i think had
10246s	zero expectations of being able to go
10248s	forward from there and now you start
10251s	seeing things are getting tense because
10253s	there are now
10255s	five players in this lobby that can put
10258s	the lobby in check in this next upcoming
10262s	game with a win everyone from dappy up
10266s	could get on the hill to win the entire
10269s	tournament in this next game
10271s	and honestly if i was alucard i would
10273s	genuinely just say look can you just put
10275s	me on 12 points because
10277s	this feels rough
10279s	this point five is honestly an insult
10281s	and i demand to speak to the manager
10283s	it's like it's making me feel worse i'm
10284s	now you know
10286s	7.5 away so it's like oh yeah this is
10289s	kind of rough overall but again you can
10291s	see uh it's all broke it down very
10293s	nicely very simple five players can make
10296s	it some players have a much easier task
10298s	than others such as their max and all
10300s	dragon of course but there are three
10302s	players that simply cannot so again
10306s	they'll be looking to
10308s	i imagine they'll be looking to
10310s	obviously try and do the best like they
10311s	always do but a lot of it will be i want
10314s	like four points right to make or maybe
10317s	five points to make it like very
10319s	difficult for this next lobby to be a
10321s	big big problem so uh we'll see their
10324s	their approach maybe some hero choice
10326s	maybe some comp their choices are gonna
10328s	really uh tell us all we need to know
10330s	about the strategy going into the next
10331s	game but of course we are gonna go to a
10333s	quick break while we make sure the
10334s	players are good to go so don't go
10335s	anywhere and we'll be back continuing
10337s	lobby legends noble garden
10341s	[Music]
10348s	[Music]
10391s	ah
10394s	[Music]
10416s	[Music]
10425s	[Music]
10430s	[Applause]
10431s	[Music]
10488s	[Music]
10508s	[Music]
10535s	welcome back everyone we are ready into
10537s	the next game and this is one where
10539s	things start really heating up because
10541s	multiple players can put the lobby in
10544s	check quite easily at least for two of
10546s	them
10547s	in this game and also uh not just
10549s	multiple players singly but multiple
10552s	players full stop can actually go in
10554s	check as uh they have the opportunity to
10555s	depend on positions where they can
10557s	actually hit that 20-point marker and
10560s	you've got a bit of a better breakdown
10561s	than me at least uh what we've scribbled
10563s	on some paper here just to make sure but
10565s	uh yeah it's going to be a pretty crazy
10567s	game
10568s	yeah we so we could get a situation
10569s	where for example uh if dappy zixo or
10572s	uense wins the lobby then they they so
10575s	when it's only 6.5 the other two players
10577s	need seven seven points for a win so if
10579s	any of those three players win the lobby
10581s	then they enter the czech portion
10583s	however because uh max and or dragon are
10586s	both so close
10587s	simultaneously
10589s	while that happens max or dragon could
10592s	just get sixth or above and then they
10594s	also put the lobby into check
10595s	simultaneously so we'd be going into
10598s	game six with suddenly we've gone from
10600s	zero players being able to win the
10602s	tournament to multiple players being
10604s	able to win the tournament
10605s	simultaneously oh or dragon greyball now
10608s	beasts are out this time though
10611s	okay yeah
10612s	dappy on tess
10618s	yeah for sure that is like one of the
10620s	players who would need to win not just
10623s	place win at the lobby and he would jump
10626s	up and put the lobby in check himself
10628s	and he has uh at least for me i know you
10631s	know the numbers may not back this up
10632s	but for me
10634s	the most powerful the character i would
10636s	always snap pick no matter what
10638s	currently is tess
10640s	yeah interestingly as well zixo was the
10642s	other player who needed a win to be able
10644s	to put the lobby in check immediately as
10646s	xo is on fleurgal which i think is a
10648s	hero that has almost zero chance of
10651s	actually winning a lobby but a very high
10653s	chance of getting top four with uh with
10655s	murloc tempo um and then eventually some
10658s	uh some poison scamming later on so
10660s	interesting i don't know if anyone
10661s	caught what xo's hero choices were
10664s	specifically but i think there's quite a
10666s	few options that have a better chance of
10667s	purely winning the lobby this time than
10669s	flogal does however
10671s	you don't actually have to be solely
10674s	concerned with winning the lobby right
10676s	now and putting the lobby in check with
10678s	zixo because it doesn't win you the
10680s	tournament right and i think
10682s	you can tunnel on that a little bit too
10683s	much and if xo in this position seven
10686s	points away from uh putting the lobby in
10688s	check feels like you know winning the
10690s	lobby is just straight up unlikely i'm
10692s	just gonna pick the hero that gets me
10693s	the most points on average out of the
10695s	heroes that i've been offered like i
10696s	think that's a totally fine approach to
10698s	the game at this point as well yeah for
10700s	me going in here now there's there's two
10702s	options for these players they either do
10706s	they either say what do i need to do to
10708s	get the the lobby in check to get 20
10710s	points
10711s	and then if that is doable that's option
10713s	a if not the natural fallback is okay
10717s	what do i do to make it the most likely
10719s	that i can put the lobby in check in the
10720s	next game right which is clearly what
10723s	some of these players have to do and
10725s	also i am being unfair i suppose um when
10729s	i say fleurgel has almost zero chance of
10731s	winning the lobby what i mean is that
10733s	murlocs have almost zero chance of
10734s	winning the lobby what you can still do
10737s	as fleurgal is use the fleurgal hero
10740s	power to set up triples by buying and
10743s	selling murlocs until you have triples
10745s	and then just triple into a six and take
10747s	naga and then transition to naga you can
10749s	absolutely do that as fleurgal um which
10751s	is a strategy that absolutely can win
10754s	the lobby so even then i think that
10755s	assessment that flogal struggles to win
10756s	might be a little bit unfair as well
10758s	yeah and also as we take a look at
10760s	beyonce here on the vardo and the
10761s	character i like a lot and one i think
10764s	you don't like as much as me and maybe
10767s	i'll just get lucky with the the freezes
10769s	but um also i just want to point out
10771s	jana say on milhouse has a very very
10774s	strong opening uh if we can check in on
10777s	him in just a second whenever you're
10778s	ready mr lorenda but um
10781s	but the opening there for for milhouse
10782s	is huge again thanks to a minion called
10785s	shell collector right like they're
10786s	gaining those coins is pretty incredible
10789s	look how strong this is this is just
10791s	ultimate bully style from unisa honestly
10794s	i expected more just average turn three
10796s	milhouse but no i'm joking obviously
10798s	this is very strong due to the shell
10800s	collectors but this is just kind of the
10802s	milhouse match up rng right i'm sure xo
10804s	will be having a little moan to himself
10806s	right now about queuing into the
10808s	milhouse here taking infinity damage
10811s	just based on uh facing milhouse in the
10813s	early game
10814s	massively punishing take seven you are
10816s	down to 28 on turn three that's the
10821s	problem
10822s	he had already taken five yeah and then
10825s	he goes straight into milhouse it's the
10826s	complete opposite of what you want to
10829s	happen all dragon here going for patches
10832s	and you know clearly playing pirates out
10834s	at least for now and again another solid
10837s	pick because all dragon
10839s	all dragon needs to like
10841s	trip over a little bit and and he'll get
10843s	enough points to to get 20 right so i
10846s	think uh patches with pirates is enough
10849s	to muscle some people out of the game
10851s	early and then all dragons should be
10853s	fine right he does not need to win he
10855s	just needs to not lose basically
10861s	wait what happened here oh he actually
10863s	just tripled into a three i was
10865s	genuinely for a second baffled as to
10867s	where that discover came from i was like
10869s	what discovers those cards and then
10871s	realizes they're six yeah i know
10874s	genuinely like my brain has just deleted
10877s	the fact that triples could offer you
10879s	anything but six drops at this point
10881s	but yeah just tripling lava lurker into
10883s	a three which you know makes sense as
10885s	tests obviously you don't have the
10886s	really have the option to uh freeze
10889s	triples and greet them over multiple
10890s	turns because you want to be
10892s	cycling through each of your opponent's
10894s	boards to pick up their good stuff over
10896s	the course of the game so taking the
10897s	early triple seems very reasonable here
10906s	bell craft to go with it now
10910s	as we dip in
10912s	with you and say
10913s	[Music]
10915s	misses i would say in that situation
10918s	with what the role is in a couple of
10920s	smoggers is fine decent tempo i suppose
10924s	yeah picks both up just to be strong
10925s	right now
10926s	it's really funny because i've been i've
10928s	been playing a good chunk of arden and a
10930s	lot of the times i'm like i wish it did
10932s	a tear below you know with the
10934s	duplicates it's like sometimes you'll
10936s	get a good naga on the table and you're
10938s	like no
10940s	freezing copied that one
10942s	so as soon as you level to four it's
10944s	like well now i can't get any good cards
10946s	anymore because they're all tavern three
10948s	minions like there's no more good cards
10950s	left until i get to six you level to
10952s	four then a siren shows up in the next
10954s	shop and you're like no
10957s	i didn't like that one
10960s	milhouse going to three tripling into a
10962s	four so it's looking like the target
10964s	here is infinite elementals or wow peggy
10967s	over recycling wraith is super
10970s	interesting obviously peggy is a ton of
10972s	scaling with milhouse one of the best
10974s	scaling win conditions uh for milhouse
10976s	to have
10977s	but as a personally like i'm a big fan
10979s	of milhouse i play milhouse a lot
10981s	having the engine of recycling wraith
10984s	to me is so much more important than
10987s	what your actual scaling is right
10989s	because
10991s	regardless of whether you have peggy or
10993s	not it's still very expensive to roll
10995s	which means you don't get to buy and
10997s	sell that many things over the course of
10998s	the game so i would have taken a snap
11001s	pick recycling rate there in my in that
11003s	position so really interesting that
11005s	say who i think has been one of the
11007s	standout better players in this
11008s	tournament so far disagrees
11011s	yeah
11012s	in a weird way and i hope you understand
11013s	what i mean
11014s	it acts like the buddy acted right where
11017s	it sort of removes the issue of rolling
11020s	yes
11020s	so you know if if something acts like
11022s	the buddies that have just been removed
11024s	well buddies were pretty strong so yeah
11026s	i do agree on that one's a little bit
11028s	surprised
11031s	max here is on eliza reminder max has
11034s	18.5 points right now which means he
11036s	only needs two points to put the lobby
11038s	in check which means sixth place or
11040s	higher so no great surprise that he is
11044s	full tempo galakrond right now going for
11047s	eliza going for pirates just trying to
11050s	bully people be as aggressive as
11051s	possible deal damage get people
11053s	eliminated he can kill two people
11056s	himself this game before they catch up
11058s	with his pirates that's job done that's
11060s	lobby in check that's a potential
11063s	tournament win in the very next game for
11065s	max
11069s	i'm still kind of shook by that peggy
11071s	pick you know
11073s	it's living rent free in my financially
11077s	milhouse will never financially recover
11080s	from this that is the problem all the
11082s	gold spent on rules yeah
11085s	a moment though air six so just sitting
11087s	at the bottom on 24 health this early is
11091s	a very dicey number indeed s6o just as
11095s	an update is on 13 total points so far
11098s	so the problem here would be is if he
11101s	did get eight
11102s	he would again basically need a win and
11106s	be one whole game backwards or set back
11108s	should i say so that he really does not
11111s	want to see the eighth place here at all
11115s	and looking like he has stabilized this
11117s	is very much uh fleurgal's power window
11120s	in this mid game tavern three finding
11122s	those baths a little bit harder now
11124s	because of uh the cold light sea nerf
11127s	meaning that some of the buffs just
11128s	aren't really available until you go up
11130s	an extra tavern but uh i do think
11132s	overall xo is in a position of strength
11135s	for another
11136s	one to three turns considering how uh
11139s	depending i should say on how quickly
11141s	other people around him spike and what
11143s	his uh match up rng is look at this
11145s	tavern right he can sell by this no
11147s	problem tear up and he still has an
11149s	option
11150s	of uh of what he does with this uh
11152s	re-roll because he couldn't
11155s	there we go
11156s	stop sucking
11158s	i wonder if this is ever worth a freeze
11162s	and he could even potentially
11164s	depend on how he's feeling like reroll
11166s	the brute if he really wanted to
11169s	do you ever just sell sell
11171s	by the four drop by the archer took like
11174s	that's a really clean four naga set up
11176s	at that point right you're essentially
11178s	trading in minimum you're trading in
11179s	mini mermadon plus three attack
11181s	spellcraft for plus eight spellcraft and
11183s	so i guess it's plus six in this case
11185s	it's a golden version so it's not
11186s	actually that much of an improvement
11188s	yeah and i was going to say like this is
11190s	a very weird argument but he probably
11192s	just doesn't need to right you can just
11194s	say save the resources for the next turn
11196s	potentially like save the gold
11198s	yeah sure
11200s	just float a gold which is a big
11201s	negative of course with that yeah
11203s	flowing a gold is a problem there were
11204s	solutions to that problem as well um i
11207s	think very smartly shot at his one drop
11210s	there because there was various outcomes
11212s	that could have made that a better
11214s	decision for him right if he just rolls
11215s	into sellamental there for example then
11218s	that's such a clean double sell into the
11220s	archer that he then unfreezes and gets
11222s	on with his life maybe he doesn't again
11224s	this is my bias i don't like brute that
11227s	much i think it's a waste of a board
11228s	space in late game positions but we have
11230s	seen various players uh favor brute
11233s	quite heavily so he might be wanting to
11235s	freeze that board anyway because he
11237s	wants the archer and the broom on the
11238s	following turn um but we can see and one
11240s	thing i like bru a bit more than you but
11243s	it's not like i think it's the best card
11244s	right but i do think it's a good
11246s	stabilizing card it's often my little he
11249s	doesn't need to stabilize in the
11251s	position that he's in right now you know
11253s	i do agree i'm just saying the way i see
11256s	it it's a mid-game gets you comfortable
11258s	card and then you get rid of it you know
11260s	as quickly as you can
11262s	yo
11263s	okay that is a shop second peggy shell
11267s	collector and the option for a domo with
11269s	sellamento in hand that is i mean i
11272s	saved the option for a domo a mandatory
11275s	domo with this elemental in hand
11280s	pays two for a roll
11282s	like a mug
11284s	oh that's a mug that's what i mean like
11287s	he'd like a mug yeah okay
11291s	what did you think i meant i thought you
11292s	just called people mugs or something oh
11295s	i see
11303s	glow scale found now for alucard
11307s	alucard not in contention as far as i
11309s	can see for the uh check positions in
11311s	this particular game
11313s	however very much in contention for uh
11316s	winning the lobby and picking up seven
11317s	points and potentially preventing other
11319s	people from doing so with the way this
11321s	game is going at the moment
11322s	i think this is a show commander you
11324s	know
11338s	you get a shield you get a shield
11342s	yeah this is okay but again this is the
11344s	weakness of simply just not hitting this
11346s	right is that yes you get to discover
11348s	more naga like this but nothing is
11351s	scaling there's you've got no damage
11353s	you've got no attack anywhere so it's
11355s	kind of tricky and when you rely on the
11357s	snail cavalry to actually you put out
11359s	the damage it's a big ask of that minion
11362s	honestly at this point in the game
11365s	built enough tempo for now for the
11367s	milhouse to be able to fight through
11369s	this alucard is still a turn or two away
11372s	from being able to get everything online
11374s	uh good decision making i think at the
11375s	end of the turn there for milhouse we
11377s	did skip away but he had to look for a
11379s	way to get the domo and the uh cyclone
11382s	on board in doing so he broke up uh his
11385s	pair of murlocs but i do think the other
11387s	murloc was too small to really consider
11389s	keeping around in that position so i
11390s	think good consider decision making or
11392s	dragon oh okay things are now coming
11396s	together one player dead uh is dead a
11399s	player who needed a win in this lobby to
11401s	put the lobby in check or dragon however
11404s	from here only needs two more positions
11408s	he needs fifth or better to be able to
11410s	put the lobby in check from here and
11412s	since he gets that ghost fight he is
11414s	creeping ever ever closer towards that
11417s	goal
11419s	yeah i would say it's
11421s	i'm sure he's not by the way but it
11422s	really looks like he's just sucking his
11424s	thumb in there okay yeah there we go
11428s	there's a chance obviously that you know
11430s	the likes of six so maybe even a la card
11432s	could die at this turn but uh still this
11435s	just gives him a lot of breathing room
11437s	and a lot of time to start stacking some
11438s	buffs here and seeing what he can do has
11440s	a lot of money still in his hand there
11442s	um
11444s	does need to survive just a little bit
11446s	longer
11448s	yeah suspect he is about done from there
11451s	max now has the duty of going up against
11454s	full tempo
11456s	elementals milhouse again another
11458s	pirates player max in a very similar
11460s	position everything that i said about
11461s	all dragon just now can also be applied
11463s	to max except minus one position he only
11466s	has to finish sixth so he only has to
11468s	outlast one more player from that spot
11471s	fascinating as well that both of the
11473s	players in remarkably similar positions
11476s	max on 18.5 or dragon on 17.5 both lent
11480s	into pirates in order to be able to get
11482s	this done yeah for very different
11484s	reasons as well right all dragon picked
11486s	patches and uh max was offered the uh
11491s	uh the admiral from
11493s	galacrom right
11496s	yes yeah yeah exactly
11501s	that is he's not dead right
11504s	are dead enough to live to fight another
11506s	day but still a huge amount of damage
11508s	that's not damage cap 15 that is a real
11510s	15.
11513s	but still that oh hello card's gone
11515s	oh alucard he's gone
11517s	which means now i believe if my count is
11520s	correct max after this lobby has this
11523s	lobby in check so to be very clear you
11526s	must put the lobby in check
11528s	then win a lobby it does not matter if
11531s	max wins this lobby from this point but
11533s	i believe now guaranteed max will start
11536s	to have the opportunity to win the
11538s	tournament
11538s	starting next game
11541s	yeah huge uh going into this on 18.5
11544s	points now he gets a minimum of two
11546s	points if you add those two numbers
11548s	together it's 20 or over so there you go
11551s	nice and simple if you had that 18.5
11554s	plus two it's about 20. yep that sounds
11557s	about right yep tell me i'm wrong
11563s	is there a
11564s	replacement now for
11567s	archer yeah just gonna get rid of the uh
11569s	the generation that makes sense
11572s	gappy on the double peggy with an eliza
11574s	as well very interesting indeed just the
11577s	interaction right within the naga
11579s	spellcrafts too yes huge with the double
11581s	peggy of course yeah really nice for
11584s	sure
11589s	lorinda did point out in our chat that
11591s	uh tess is unfortunately dodging the
11593s	other pirate players at the moment as if
11594s	i'm supposed to have uh sympathy for it
11597s	but tess is on tavern iv with an eliza
11599s	on her board so she clearly hasn't been
11601s	dodging the pirates for the entire game
11603s	has she
11604s	but yes she is now as you can see facing
11606s	against this patches which means more
11608s	eliza which also means triple peggy so
11611s	once again even though
11613s	uh it is a weird amount of players going
11615s	pirates in this situation it does look
11618s	like tess is going to be able to feed on
11621s	the defeated carcass of her opponents in
11623s	this game
11625s	and the big question is though
11630s	is it going to be in because basically
11633s	um
11634s	dappy on tess needs to exactly win
11639s	yes you put the lobby in check and
11641s	although he's doing a great job he's
11644s	pirates not naga and sal king
11647s	currently has
11650s	dragon's just still up because he needs
11652s	all dragon needs fifth right he needs
11654s	one more placing yes and he's got it
11656s	when max dies
11658s	max dies means that he will not be the
11661s	only player putting this in check or
11664s	dragon now has it as well three points
11666s	to his name by finishing in fifth and
11669s	that means all dragon goes from 17.5 to
11672s	20.5
11674s	mission accomplished for both of those
11676s	players by the finest of margins
11680s	one hp in a dream is all you need and
11683s	that means all dragon and max are both
11686s	now going into the next game with the
11687s	opportunity to win the tournament we
11689s	shall see if dappy can follow suit or if
11693s	zixo can follow suit because he has the
11695s	same opportunity as dappy does both on
11698s	13 points meaning if either of them get
11700s	the straight up win in this game they
11703s	will go to 20 as well the problem is to
11706s	do that they have to beat the king
11708s	and that mad don't worry about it bit of
11711s	a problem ah don't worry about it it's
11714s	okay
11714s	i'll remember that when we when we play
11716s	uh battlegrounds together so i'll just
11718s	make some bad plays and be like don't
11720s	worry about it
11721s	we'll be okay
11729s	i love this hybrid board honestly just
11731s	like i actually i actually i love this
11734s	so much like
11736s	so first and foremost
11738s	transitioning from anything into naga
11741s	basically any point of the game isn't
11743s	that bad a decision however given the
11746s	context that we've just been talking
11747s	about this is so smart right like what
11751s	does fourth through second actually
11753s	really mean for daffy in this position
11756s	he's building a board to now try and
11758s	potentially win this game he's survived
11760s	he's stabilized he's tess the pirate
11762s	players are dying so where's the equity
11765s	in remaining pirates as tests he's not
11766s	going to be able to steal additional
11768s	rewards from other people he's going to
11770s	keep these two huge pirates for as long
11772s	as he can to continue to be strong and
11775s	then he's going to steal naga from the
11776s	other players and then try and
11778s	transition into a board that actually
11779s	wins the game and then puts the lobby in
11781s	check this is such a good decision in
11784s	the point uh the game state the
11785s	tournament state that dappy's at right
11787s	now yeah 6-0 gone obliterated by dappy
11791s	and and yeah i completely agree and with
11793s	35 health on tess
11795s	it's doable he can take a punch right
11797s	probably even from the strongest player
11800s	the only worry and potential issue is if
11804s	this doesn't pay off and let's say daffy
11807s	dies soon it makes it more slightly more
11810s	difficult for him to put the lobby in
11812s	check next time right like that is the
11815s	downside of going for the all like
11818s	loosely all in play of saying i'm going
11821s	to transition and win this lobby i
11824s	respect the play don't get me wrong but
11826s	there is a potential way it could punish
11828s	him a little bit
11830s	agrees
11834s	uh just to counter at that point though
11836s	like now we're in top four right so he's
11839s	already picked up four points to his
11841s	name which means he's already at 17 is
11844s	the difference between needing three
11846s	points in the next lobby and needing
11848s	four points in the next lobby that big
11850s	of a deal yes it's one whole point and
11852s	that's one whole positioning it does
11853s	make a difference i absolutely get that
11855s	but in terms of risk reward right like
11857s	what's my downside versus what's my
11859s	upside your upside is accelerate your
11862s	whole tournament by one entire game
11865s	right which is such a big deal are you
11867s	necessarily going to do that are you
11869s	going to decelerate your tournament by
11871s	one entire game if you get one less
11873s	point in this position maybe so what you
11876s	know one is like provably true the other
11878s	is nebulous which i think is why it is a
11881s	thing worth going for in this position
11883s	yeah 100
11886s	it's our king just trying to put
11888s	something in the way missing a glow
11890s	scale which is super important because
11892s	you know his biggest minion doesn't have
11894s	divine shield at the glow scale though
11896s	you know there isn't a divine shield
11897s	taunt in the way
11899s	of anything here to soak a couple of
11901s	hits either so really you know
11903s	everything else going pretty okay for
11904s	sour king here even though the the
11906s	efficient isn't golden which is the
11908s	dream but other than that it really is
11911s	just a missing glow scale at this point
11913s	just to round out the rest of the comp
11915s	all right pick a minion and keep an eye
11916s	on it i was watching 27 27 on the archer
11919s	that was third from the right it's now
11922s	made a mistake it's now a 47 31 it's so
11926s	much scaling
11928s	three three didn't change so
11929s	ah i'm lucky hey that wasn't the one to
11932s	choose
11934s	i should have been more clear oh yeah
11936s	you did always say pick a minion
11938s	instructions unclear accidentally played
11940s	exodian
11945s	these are the boards i find hardest to
11947s	judge well this is the
11949s	hardest to judge
11951s	oh by the way uh
11954s	you said you had your eye on the three
11955s	three salking had his eye on the 3-3 as
11958s	well and it's a really clutch pick by
11960s	the way as a final minion because i
11963s	think he moused over or dragon he saw
11966s	pirates 3 or whatever the number was at
11968s	that point which
11970s	pirates being your minion type but a low
11973s	number of pirates kind of identifies you
11975s	as zodia right because it means you had
11977s	the rest of your board is filled with
11978s	neutral minions which means khadgar and
11981s	baron so by picking up a small taunt
11984s	he increases his odds of the exodia
11987s	getting choked which is what you saw
11989s	there yes the taunt dies initially and
11991s	the the scally dies alongside it but you
11994s	then have a 1-1 token on your board
11996s	which any of those pirates can trade
11998s	into and then choke the board so there's
12000s	no spawn space left for the uh khadgar's
12003s	and the baron to go afterwards so there
12005s	are many many better options that he
12008s	would have preferred
12009s	um to the 3-3 in that spot but it was
12011s	still a good choice that probably gave
12013s	him some extra odds in that fight
12016s	yeah we do see all dragon did die of
12018s	course but he'll be more than okay
12021s	with the outcome of this game as he does
12022s	put the lobby in check now and now it's
12025s	between the three players dappy he gets
12028s	a win
12029s	he will join
12031s	uh all dragon and max by putting the
12033s	lobby in check for this game uh sal king
12036s	currently i believe on 12 points a win
12039s	here would be huge because that means
12041s	again he has to just like maybe sneeze
12043s	in the next game to to put him to 20
12045s	points as well
12047s	i think dappy does it can we just lana
12049s	can we just take a quick look again at
12051s	dappy's board because i think
12054s	i think he gets there with the level of
12056s	scaling that he has
12058s	because the that bought on the others
12060s	like yeah look at it like the numbers
12061s	right now are just so big the thing is
12064s	he's now oh he's gone out of the officer
12066s	though
12067s	oh
12072s	i'm not beating it so i just want to
12074s	secure
12075s	second maybe i think he would have done
12077s	though
12079s	who is he yeah he oh he's against
12081s	pirates
12083s	he's against pirates now with patches in
12085s	terms of the testy oh yeah which i
12086s	imagine does influence his decision to
12088s	some amount but like
12090s	this is not a complete naga board that
12093s	we're seeing on the other side from sao
12095s	king right and i i don't i don't know
12097s	how much information dappy has about how
12099s	big and powerful the salking is right
12101s	now but that is very beatable
12104s	i i think he won't have much because his
12108s	board isn't full of powerful naga right
12110s	because if he'd faced him recently he
12112s	would have just tested him right
12114s	true
12115s	i assume i don't forgive me i don't know
12118s	but i feel like based on his board he
12120s	has not faced uh uh salking for a while
12124s	at least
12126s	uh i think he loses this fight by the
12128s	way to the ghost there's another full
12130s	chain here going off double khadgar
12132s	baron
12133s	going off in this position which means
12135s	everything here is getting buffed to
12137s	oblivion and i think
12140s	that as long as the right-hand side of
12142s	the board gets cleared up here i was
12143s	getting a little bit worried because all
12145s	of these attacks are going left yeah
12146s	yeah okay so if they're right there we
12147s	go there it's just gonna be good enough
12149s	i think from this point
12153s	yep looks good he's gonna just take
12155s	damage to the ghost here he got to kill
12157s	the baron at least for something
12163s	you know you've played too much
12164s	battlegrounds when you can eyeball
12166s	exodia fights and finally figure out who
12168s	can win i can't also just never go for
12171s	it i never even i've tried it once or
12174s	twice let's get off with the uh of
12176s	course the triple on the i don't know
12178s	you just switch comp and then play that
12181s	you know what i like that club
12183s	i'll play it myself like zodia i like it
12186s	good idea you had there
12192s	back into a thistle yeah we go again
12195s	that would be a great you know like um
12197s	special event hero where every turn you
12200s	your board is just your previous
12202s	opponent sport and you just forever just
12205s	cycle through every comp yeah that would
12208s	be quite interesting actually
12209s	you can move them around you know it's
12211s	not like you only find out in the fight
12213s	like you find out like now
12215s	and then you can do what you want with
12216s	it but then you come just keep cycling
12218s	through it'll be funny
12223s	actually is back into this
12226s	well i think he's just doing this to get
12228s	the small amount of buffs that he can
12229s	get while the spells exist i don't
12231s	necessarily know if it's hanging around
12233s	okay interesting i was wondering i don't
12235s	like
12236s	um you know kind of the jokey thing we
12238s	were talking about of actually going
12239s	into exodia there because he just has
12241s	like vanilla strong minions already i
12244s	was perhaps interested in just like
12247s	the baron maybe like double scally baron
12250s	but still with a full board of big
12251s	minions and what that looks like but i i
12254s	do think his decision here to uh to go
12256s	with just big minions poisoned leroy et
12258s	cetera it does make a lot of sense and
12260s	using the scally as just a a bait taunt
12264s	right for leroy
12266s	on the other side yeah that's actually a
12267s	really cool idea as well which i haven't
12269s	seen too much of they get rewarded too
12274s	good amount of damage that's a good
12276s	amount of damage like if he wins this
12278s	lobby this is the game of the tournament
12281s	like the single game performance of the
12283s	tournament dappy winning this lobby with
12285s	that hodgepodge like yes he's tess and i
12288s	think i've made my feelings on tess very
12290s	clear throughout this tournament but
12292s	there have been some choices made in
12295s	this game so far from dappy's position
12300s	oh
12301s	so king has the ghost
12303s	now king does have the ghost
12307s	it's a day off
12315s	where's the anastasia but yeah i was
12317s	gonna say does he have a look at the
12318s	selfless hero and thing huh you know
12320s	what i can probably finish on this worst
12322s	case scenario
12324s	yeah i mean the minions are big enough
12325s	right
12326s	double peggy right he has to have very
12328s	low standards i think as to what's a
12330s	viable minion at this point he is
12332s	getting to the point where he has to
12333s	find some kind of creative wing
12334s	condition against people that are just
12336s	going to be bigger and better than him
12346s	but at the same time he's pretty big and
12348s	as i mentioned like there's no one with
12351s	the god comp in this lobby from what
12353s	we've seen so far like salking i'm sure
12356s	has made improvements since the last
12357s	time we uh we hopped in but it it hasn't
12360s	been the absolute gigants of like two
12363s	atheists or golden atheists or with a
12365s	golden siren with an orgasm as well like
12368s	no one has had the absolute unbeatable
12370s	gigger nuts so the idea of just
12372s	continuing to scale and just make your
12374s	minions bigger is
12375s	valid in this position
12379s	a good tactical choice
12382s	except
12384s	make sense just go for a final buy hold
12386s	on to it and then get the selfless in
12388s	there
12388s	all right just sorry
12392s	meanwhile salking against the ghost just
12394s	looking at our tracker has full milked
12397s	he has sold out of his board to make
12400s	room for five total sirens there's one
12402s	golden i mean i suppose four in terms of
12405s	activation one golden and two regulars
12407s	just absolutely milking the officer that
12409s	he has for as much as it's worth yeah
12411s	and and even though initially it's like
12413s	why would you put the sounds are so
12414s	small does not matter they add a million
12417s	stats to the board
12420s	wins the fight against tess as well very
12422s	nicely done from the anastasia this one
12424s	is coming all the way down to the wire i
12426s	think now these players have taken so
12429s	much time to actually end up killing
12431s	each other um that
12433s	sao king will actually end up winning
12435s	the lobby with the amount of scaling
12436s	that he has takes out one khadgar which
12439s	is very crucial in that position and i
12442s	think this is now potentially a tie oh
12446s	it's a regular eliza actually so no i
12448s	think he does end up beating the ghost
12449s	from here but without taking out khadgar
12452s	baron like if he'd have just his one
12454s	attack if it had gone into the swabbie
12456s	specifically i think he loses that fight
12459s	to the ghost and dies from that position
12462s	which would have been outrageous
12464s	obviously unlucky obviously he has
12466s	massive odds from that position and you
12468s	can see the greed that i was talking
12469s	about on the previous term with those uh
12472s	five sirens four activations of siren uh
12475s	currently on his board
12476s	i got it i was just gonna say he targets
12479s	the three drop to try and hit a siren
12482s	and now he has double golden siren
12484s	exactly what you want to do
12487s	and then rolls the orgasoid as well
12495s	oh
12498s	i mean
12499s	the milhouse does have like a divine
12501s	shield 1990 right like
12505s	the milhouse is not much smaller than
12507s	this yeah did you see it like
12510s	it's actually pretty big
12513s	it is
12514s	but how many stats will we say in the uh
12516s	this ad ads i guess it's not holden
12519s	look you have to allow some level of
12521s	coping by just looking at the board as
12524s	it currently stands and not adding the
12526s	stats in at the end
12527s	and not adding these double golden
12529s	sirens yeah yeah forget about that
12533s	but i mean here's the possibility right
12534s	yeah yes i think milhouse loses here
12537s	right i think once all of this siren
12538s	scaling goes through there's too many
12540s	divine shields there's too many stats
12542s	does he always die
12544s	do you always take 14 here i'm not sure
12547s	you always take 14.
12549s	yeah honestly i i'd like to just throw a
12551s	number out there that i would expect
12553s	like 12 way more often than 14 right it
12556s	just it feels like just one big thing's
12558s	gonna live
12559s	maybe two of the smaller minions because
12561s	obviously they're one of the bigger
12562s	minions there is only two drops oh yeah
12565s	might not always take two uh 14 you are
12567s	right
12568s	this hundred hundred needs to do a bunch
12571s	of work oh no bad start yeah bad start
12575s	six drops still hanging around six drop
12578s	does hang around and that is going to be
12580s	lethal 18 damage going through milhouse
12583s	going down in third and now the showdown
12587s	we've been waiting for
12588s	we might be about to enter a critical
12592s	triple check situation if dappy can
12595s	overcome
12597s	the king as you put it uh sal king in
12600s	this situation has been the king of this
12602s	game he has been the naga player but
12604s	dappy has made some really creative
12606s	choices throughout this game to try and
12608s	give himself a potential to just win one
12611s	fight that's all he needs he doesn't
12613s	need to consistently beat salking i love
12616s	that all dragons ghost has been an
12618s	absolute terror to everyone everyone's
12621s	like just winning versus it and it's
12623s	like been like three or four turns at
12625s	this point people are still struck not
12627s	struggling but it's getting close
12629s	personally it should be
12630s	that's the thing with exodia though
12632s	right if you don't plan around it it can
12634s	really catch you by surprise right but
12637s	if you do what many players have done in
12639s	this game mouse over your opponent and
12641s	go okay that's exodia and you plan for
12643s	it specifically it's very exploitable
12646s	right it's very easily counterable with
12648s	a lot of different methods but it's
12649s	because it's the ghost players recognize
12652s	that they they can't afford to plan
12655s	around beating the ghost anymore right
12657s	they have to plan long term to be able
12659s	to win the lobby instead and that's just
12661s	making them all just a tiny bit
12663s	vulnerable
12664s	i feel like zodiac or dragon now that
12666s	he's got the points required he's like i
12668s	will now haunt you from the graves you
12670s	don't join me at 20 points as well it's
12672s	like so funny
12674s	yeah well taunt going down on the mantid
12677s	queens
12678s	reef explorer is being cycled through
12681s	voidlord is the best tech card of those
12684s	three so i would imagine it's just being
12686s	taken for maximum flexibility uh
12688s	voidlord essentially a taunt minion that
12690s	spawns another torn minion so if your
12692s	opponent has multiple divine shields at
12694s	the start of their queue you can use
12695s	void lords to pop two of those divine
12698s	shields at the start pretty useful tech
12699s	card i don't think it makes the board
12701s	here and i do think it's the most useful
12703s	option to have it does make the board
12705s	here very interesting okay
12707s	yeah i think this is just
12709s	what are the maximum chances of me
12711s	cheating this game right and just like
12713s	cheating out this fight and i think
12715s	along the lines apple double divine
12718s	shield
12719s	on the mounted queens oh
12721s	and the void lord pops the leroy that is
12725s	huge
12727s	100 goes down dead
12730s	value trades are poison though and now
12732s	at the very least
12736s	you're slightly triple check we have a
12739s	triple check situation raven it's
12741s	happened
12743s	and what a game from dappy there like
12745s	honestly i could not keep up
12748s	with the different board states he was
12751s	building as he went through that game we
12753s	are very used and you can tell from how
12754s	we were describing it at the beginning
12756s	of the game very used to test just
12757s	sticking around sticking around oh other
12759s	people got the naga i'll have those too
12762s	thank you and then going full naga comp
12764s	but dappy just popped off in like
12766s	multiple different ways that game and
12769s	actually made it work and he did exactly
12771s	what he needed to do he needed seven
12773s	points
12774s	they put the lobby in check for himself
12776s	and guess what he won and got his seven
12778s	points
12781s	disgusting uh i mean i shout out at the
12783s	start i just said it to you offhand in
12785s	the break it's like we could have three
12787s	players get checked in the same lobby
12789s	here just kind of an offhand thing and
12791s	then like you brought it up when we came
12792s	back in i was alright cool i'll talk
12793s	about it i didn't expect it to happen
12796s	raven that's why we talk
12798s	i mean you have to plant seeds right
12800s	like yeah yeah but behind the curtains
12802s	casting 101 you just lay seeds and then
12804s	whichever one of them sprouts you just
12806s	pick up on it later and you sound like a
12808s	genius and here we are
12809s	or dragon max and i think most
12812s	impressively
12814s	dappy now all in a situation
12817s	three out of our eight players can all
12820s	win the tournament in our next game with
12823s	a tournament win quick refresher if you
12825s	have no idea what we've been talking
12828s	about for the entire last game firstly
12830s	sorry secondly this is check format so
12833s	it's kind of a multi-faceted win
12835s	condition step one get to 20 points
12838s	nothing can happen until you reach 20
12840s	points
12840s	once you reach 20 points the first
12843s	person on 20 points or more to win a
12847s	game first place in a lobby will then
12850s	win the whole tournament so it means all
12852s	of those three players you see at the
12853s	top highlighted in gold are now eligible
12856s	to win the tournament from this point
12858s	onward and just to give you a bit more
12859s	of a background on the other players uh
12862s	all but the bottom two there basically
12865s	have to just do okay in the next game
12867s	and then they will hit 20 points
12869s	relatively easily but then you know
12871s	after that it's gonna be an uphill climb
12874s	as well because there's at least two
12875s	more games for the bottom two players uh
12877s	to be able to match and catch up to
12880s	everyone else putting the lobby in check
12882s	but i will say we just see uh dappy
12884s	there at the start of this week happen
12887s	i need to watch this again like when
12889s	we're done you know because i just want
12891s	to see each board stay and just see his
12893s	play and just understand the plan
12896s	i think there's a very good chance that
12899s	if you catch the next episode of lobby
12901s	legends graded you might just see that
12903s	game again i've got your back don't you
12905s	worry perfect and everyone else should
12906s	tune in when that gets posted because
12908s	it's very funny everyone gets to see how
12909s	i see subtle all the time
12912s	as an evil demon of my nightmares
12915s	but yeah this again
12917s	very is this is a great game because yet
12919s	again we display the differences of how
12921s	this format evolves over the course of
12923s	the day right we just saw multiple
12925s	people going for the pirate comps
12927s	potentially exodia as well uh trying to
12930s	just land fourth fifth you know places
12932s	that needed it the likes of max who got
12935s	his sixth place that's what he needed
12937s	that's what he got done we saw all
12939s	dragon do the same secure the few points
12941s	he needed again picking up patches in
12943s	the beginning making that choice from
12945s	minute one of the game uh it was just
12948s	great to see all the players adapt to
12950s	what they specifically needed to achieve
12952s	in the tournament at this point
12954s	especially dappy of course needing
12957s	exactly a win picking test doing
12960s	different test things as well some
12961s	things i did not expect but went for the
12964s	got offered the test picked the test and
12966s	then cashed in and got his first place a
12969s	really great game and uh definitely a
12970s	highlight one for me so far in their
12972s	noble garden
12973s	yeah and also i will eat my fair share
12976s	of crow here um great performance from
12979s	beyonce on the milhouse as well getting
12981s	to a position where he was actually
12983s	competitive with the top two boards um
12986s	without ever putting a recycling wraith
12988s	on his board yeah i saw which was uh you
12990s	know my point of criticism early on so
12992s	you know as the humble and flexible
12995s	analyst that i am i will point out that
12998s	uh maybe that was the correct decision
12999s	picking up the peggy there early on as
13001s	well
13002s	yeah and it does mean again just excited
13004s	to get into the next lobby with three
13006s	players and i've really enjoyed that
13009s	this so far feels like it's been such an
13012s	opposite experience of the first lobby
13015s	legends not to say i i definitely
13017s	enjoyed watching be nice just laugh at
13019s	everyone as it just destroyed lobby
13021s	after lobby but i like that this shows
13023s	the other side of the coin right where
13025s	we've had players that could have got an
13027s	early check on the lobby miss and now
13030s	suddenly boom we've got three all at the
13032s	same time which dramatically increases
13034s	the chances of someone actually just
13037s	winning the whole thing in the next game
13039s	instead of having one player slip in and
13041s	then maybe in one more slipping in the
13042s	next lobby it's like boom three out of
13045s	nowhere enjoy
13047s	yeah and i mean i'll call it i know you
13049s	like to be the the nice
13050s	non-confrontational one but i i do think
13052s	the way the first tournament ended was a
13054s	little bit anti-climactic right with the
13056s	the quick ending for
13058s	i mean it was also quite funny um but i
13061s	did see some you know kind of thoughts
13062s	and stuff online i'm not sure about this
13064s	format it did seem a bit weird the way
13065s	the last day panned out like check
13068s	format you know it's still a new idea
13070s	people are still trying it out you can
13071s	have criticisms of it if you want what i
13073s	will say is if you want to judge it
13075s	judge you on this event not that event
13077s	because this what's happening here is
13079s	much more like the average of what's
13081s	expected to happen 100 that was an
13083s	outlier that we saw in the first
13084s	tournament and this is you know the the
13087s	drama this this creates is kind of the
13089s	format working as intended so i think it
13090s	is a much better showing uh this time
13092s	around and i cannot wait for this next
13094s	lobby because
13096s	who on earth can predict what is going
13098s	to happen in this one absolutely no one
13100s	i'll take some time to think of some
13102s	predictions though we do have to go to a
13103s	quick break while we set up for the next
13104s	game so don't go anywhere we'll be right
13106s	back
13115s	oh it's good to have you back can i get
13118s	you anything
13125s	[Music]
13133s	it's a good time to hire some new
13135s	minions
13138s	what a great addition to your team
13142s	[Music]
13147s	you can't go wrong with that one
13148s	[Music]
13152s	a solid
13155s	[Music]
13161s	your choice
13164s	your new recruit is ready to go
13167s	[Music]
13173s	victory never tasted sweeter
13177s	[Music]
13211s	hey
13213s	[Music]
13268s	[Music]
13276s	[Music]
13281s	[Music]
13284s	[Applause]
13287s	[Music]
13287s	[Applause]
13295s	[Music]
13302s	welcome back everyone to lobby legends
13304s	noble garden we have a lot going on as
13307s	we move into the next game there are
13309s	three players who have the opportunity
13313s	to win the whole tournament in this game
13316s	right now the play if it's one of those
13318s	players that finishes first place
13321s	they are the champion they win the whole
13322s	thing the tournament ends and uh that'll
13325s	be a great day for them and there are
13327s	other players who do need to do some
13328s	work to get to that 20 point total so
13331s	they also then can have the chance to
13333s	win if we move on to the next game
13336s	but like i said i was saying to you in
13337s	the break saul as we see now some of the
13339s	hero choices are popping up for us at
13340s	least um the three players that are or
13344s	do have that ability to win at all
13345s	dragon max and dappy and especially all
13348s	dragon and max i think deputy played
13350s	extremely well in that one game earlier
13352s	but i think those two players at the top
13354s	have been playing very very well no no
13356s	no no no no no no no no not that one or
13358s	dragon please or dragon please
13361s	or dragon fleas there it is okay
13365s	these are some game winning heroes oh my
13370s	goodness queen ashara lord barrow with
13373s	the tournament on the line dappy by the
13376s	way as you can see on the track on your
13377s	tracker on the left-hand side of your
13379s	screen there has blackthorne as well
13382s	which i think is a very nice hero for
13384s	game-winning potential um similar to
13386s	sort of what i was kind of mistakenly
13388s	saying about fleurgal for a while not
13390s	because quillboards are good but because
13392s	you can level to six and be strong while
13395s	doing it and have the opportunity to
13397s	then find naga as um
13400s	naga with the then the ability to just
13402s	have extra blood gems which makes you
13404s	pop off so much harder with a thistle if
13406s	you get there yeah we do also see i i i
13409s	want to say the first lich king we've
13412s	seen this weekend that might be wrong
13414s	but either way we've not seen him a lot
13416s	that's right yeah south king rocking the
13417s	lich king there are some really strong
13419s	things especially or mainly the whole
13422s	air reborn on a leroy is extremely
13425s	strong indeed so we'll see if that plays
13428s	into it and just to point out as well if
13430s	you're wondering the three players who
13431s	have the sort of golden e um and numbers
13434s	next to their name on their health
13436s	totals those are the three players that
13438s	if either one of those ends the game in
13441s	that first place they win the tournament
13444s	and it begins i have no idea if this was
13447s	part of the motivation or not but
13448s	alucard uh with the death wing picks up
13453s	the icky imp because turn one he was
13456s	fighting against an opponent who had the
13458s	lobby in check he's like okay i'm gonna
13461s	bet my entire game on dealing damage to
13464s	the barov or dragon on turn one and then
13466s	forget about it from there
13469s	yeah i might not face this person ever
13471s	again but i'll i can say with a stop
13474s	when i did face him i dealt damage
13477s	now if everyone else did that we'd be
13479s	fine
13481s	ah
13484s	what is it he has a name the like
13487s	american uncle sam recruitment guy like
13490s	the point we need you to deal damage to
13493s	all dragon
13497s	i mean alucard is just beating everyone
13499s	up right now i do like us and that was
13502s	another hit right
13504s	here
13505s	i i do like the uh sky cap and craig
13508s	pick as well i don't think max was
13509s	offered great heroes but craig
13513s	if you need that turn to either boost
13515s	the taventer up or to you know pop off
13517s	with a lot of buying power uh craig's
13519s	okay right it's definitely not a bad
13521s	hero
13522s	yeah for sure
13531s	pixel could be a player who's going to
13533s	play scrappy this game and then could
13536s	have the option at soul juggler kind of
13538s	stuff if he wants to look at that
13542s	because he does only i think sixo needs
13545s	four points to be able to get to 20.
13548s	so again uh just keep it on six so let's
13550s	see if he goes for more just i will sort
13552s	of sit in the middle of the pack
13555s	or just above middle i suppose
13557s	technically
13559s	yes i was able to answer that so quickly
13560s	because i'd gone silent as i was copying
13562s	those numbers from discord to pen and
13564s	paper so i don't have to take up screen
13566s	space with them anymore which yes uh
13568s	zixo on 16 needing four points to get
13571s	into a check position from here you do
13572s	see the lich king now uh throwing in the
13574s	damage in the early game but i mean
13576s	dappy doing what daffy needs to do right
13579s	level
13581s	level get to six find those win
13584s	conditions and that is a good chunk of
13587s	tempo for the three on three curve as
13590s	well uh parrot with a deathrattle is not
13593s	the worst thing to be seeing here
13594s	overall especially right right it's just
13596s	a more minion-based generation too um i
13600s	i
13600s	i'm enjoying making a mini game for
13602s	myself which is just watching the yellow
13604s	numbers and how far they go down and
13606s	then see if they go up again and then go
13608s	down again with just everyone beating
13610s	them up so uh we'll see how that
13612s	continues
13613s	how do you feel though
13615s	about level
13616s	the curve that shall not be named yes
13619s	four on four
13623s	ah this is something i i guess uh i
13626s	think we talked more about in the break
13628s	between ourselves
13632s	something that again from my uh complete
13635s	zero competitive battlegrounds
13637s	tournaments i've played in
13640s	sorry i was very confused because he
13643s	sold the cat and then paused as if there
13645s	was another decision to be made at that
13648s	point
13649s	this might look very very silly indeed
13652s	but
13653s	the only thing that's important
13656s	for dappy and the other two players that
13658s	have gold numbers next to their name the
13659s	gold hell totals is they have to win not
13662s	second not third not fourth nothing they
13665s	have to finish first and if dappy can
13667s	just survive and then pop off with this
13670s	sort of hard tavern uh pushing here
13673s	that's the kind of thing that will
13674s	either eighth place or first place and
13678s	none of the numbers matter to dappy
13680s	apart from that first place so i do
13682s	appreciate it here
13684s	bonker or snail i think was a
13686s	surprisingly close decision in that
13688s	position but i think it is a bonker
13690s	absolutely or dragon now on the barrow
13692s	does now have that match up uh this is a
13695s	head-to-head
13696s	of two players with the lobby in check
13698s	fighting against each other so they now
13700s	this is the most difficult fight i think
13702s	to navigate you both want to be as
13704s	greedy as possible for your own win
13705s	condition but you also do want to
13707s	directly hamper the other person that's
13709s	in the same spot as you
13711s	shout out once again to alucard finley
13713s	who has now dealt significant damage to
13716s	all three checked players with deathwing
13719s	in this with finley deathwing in this
13722s	potentially crucial lobby they're going
13724s	to win the role for best supporting
13725s	actor uh absolutely
13728s	doing his job well i just love that
13730s	there's just a triple sum bacon
13732s	just on the board on offer which is kind
13735s	of great this is huge though and i going
13737s	back to that bunker pick uh i i like it
13740s	a lot because he can use the blood gems
13742s	now to secure his health total and still
13745s	gain them back by the time he wants them
13748s	for the real big turns later on so like
13750s	a 913 like that is gonna put some work
13753s	in especially as we can see here
13754s	basically gonna farm this whole board
13759s	yeah weirdly if you uh
13761s	showed the entire board state uh to
13764s	[Music]
13766s	dappy in that situation he actually
13768s	wouldn't have even played the siren
13770s	because his bonker could take down the
13771s	whole board and having less minions in
13773s	play means that you would then attack
13775s	again yes with the bonker be able to get
13777s	more blood gems but obviously that is a
13779s	ridiculous reason to make in that
13782s	situation the ridiculous risk as well
13784s	isn't it because if you mess up and you
13785s	just get smacked for another like eight
13787s	or something you're like oh no i'm dead
13790s	so one two three four five six seven
13792s	coins in hand goes to eight so we'd have
13794s	to sell level and then sell again to
13797s	hero power yeah it's too much has to
13799s	wait one more turn i do think if we we
13802s	end up playing many more games we're
13804s	gonna see this as a giant theme so oh
13808s	the golden health totals just sitting at
13810s	the bottom
13812s	most of the game because they're playing
13814s	extra greedy right they need to win but
13816s	it's just funny that oh all the players
13817s	that we've got in check are gonna lose
13819s	it's like well maybe but this is also
13821s	how they win
13822s	yes
13830s	oh this is a disgusting board for me and
13832s	this this is
13833s	that if i face i just look away or
13835s	minimize the game while it happens i
13837s	just don't want to watch this
13840s	he has been like the absolute tempo king
13842s	of this tournament right like finley uh
13845s	sorry daryl daryl stay on one now
13848s	there's the greyball milhouse in the
13849s	previous game as well like
13851s	he has largely ignored naga for this
13854s	entire tournament so far
13857s	and it's very impressive that he is
13858s	where he is while doing that
13863s	you got this you're way ahead
13872s	yo
13873s	do we have
13874s	a leaper situation
13877s	i can only hope
13880s	is it time
13881s	are we gonna get the leaper spam is it
13884s	coming
13886s	chat you know what to do
13888s	max gone down to 12.
13892s	uh can after this fight can we check in
13894s	on max as well i just want to see where
13896s	he's up to with air hey this might be
13898s	the turn he pops with his hero power
13899s	right
13901s	yeah there we go yeah i'm not not
13903s	surprised
13904s	even if you would like to be greedier
13907s	you just don't right at 12 hours
13911s	12 fighting about who is also going to
13913s	be popping off this turn any
13915s	consideration to take a faux reaper and
13917s	stay alive no
13918s	oh oh
13920s	no oh oh my goodness that is the
13924s	absolute hypernuts in this situation one
13927s	of each is the absolute dream triple
13930s	spellcraft as well
13933s	are you taking a roll are you taking a
13935s	roll for one more spell no okay taking
13937s	sales too because all he needs to do in
13939s	his mind now just don't die this round
13942s	just don't die in this one fight and
13945s	then he is gonna pop off
13948s	okay
13948s	what have you got oh dragon in response
13950s	to that you've got a foe reaper
13953s	and you've gotten
13955s	but this is the argument right like
13956s	genuinely i am a tiny bit surprised that
13960s	there was zero consideration to the faux
13963s	reaper um from max on the other side
13966s	obviously i get it right like they're in
13968s	the position they're in they have to win
13969s	the lobby we've talked about it
13970s	extensively i understand the assignment
13972s	i know where we are however
13975s	you can prevent someone who is very
13978s	clearly doing something extremely greedy
13981s	on the other side from winning the lobby
13984s	by just taking a faux reaper and
13986s	murdering them and killing them so like
13988s	there is definitely something to do i
13990s	think he absolutely made the right
13992s	decision i'm just a little surprised
13995s	there was no time allocated to taking
13998s	that and also
14000s	this might be a bit negative but if you
14002s	think there's a chance you lose this
14004s	lobby maybe you didn't get you know
14005s	you're not safe enough in your health
14007s	then you can potentially remove someone
14009s	else so they can't win either right like
14012s	it's there's so many upsides but yeah
14014s	we'll see how it pans out here because
14017s	okay
14021s	he's needs to go he needs to get one to
14023s	go left does not get one to go left i
14026s	think too much just crashes straight
14028s	into that one minion right yeah this is
14030s	gonna be a win for uh for max up at the
14033s	top and that is going to be
14035s	15 damage exactly
14038s	which means all dragon bites the dust
14041s	and he sees crucially that max not only
14046s	dispatched him on that turn but also
14049s	that max has both of the wing conditions
14052s	that he is looking for right
14054s	and i imagine a collective chair went up
14057s	from all the players
14059s	that are not in the golden position
14061s	right now not got the lobby in check uh
14063s	we are going to check in on yonsei again
14065s	are doing well has his own atheista is
14067s	also playing vol jin which is a big deal
14070s	too shawl commander shoal commander's
14071s	gonna come down now to start just start
14073s	racking up these extra buffs uh key
14076s	piece missing now lack of siren that's
14078s	gonna be probably next on the list of
14080s	their must-have minions fiance i think
14083s	as that that combination that tag team
14085s	of this and siren is really what starts
14088s	to ramp you forward into the game
14091s	it is but i think for the long-term
14093s	health of the tournament for everyone
14095s	involved who isn't max
14098s	a player like you and say would want to
14101s	be fighting against max right now right
14104s	you need someone right now who is
14107s	insanely holy mode to deal 12 damage to
14110s	max before his board gets out of control
14113s	because given time
14114s	his board will get out of control if he
14117s	rolls a siren this game might just be
14120s	over any point before he hits that siren
14123s	you might still have a chance to do 12
14125s	but you need match up rng to put someone
14128s	incredibly currently strong up against
14131s	max
14134s	no it's alucard and that is a card
14137s	it is alucard it's deathwing alucard
14141s	with a very clean mech setup
14144s	and the pig
14145s	is a lot of damage being represented
14148s	double
14149s	deflecto double reset
14153s	this is going to be close or 50
14158s	i was just gonna say the 24 52 might
14161s	just laugh honestly subtle all of this
14164s	it's it's not even well is it half
14167s	health now
14168s	but there's everything's dead song
14171s	does it matter
14173s	yeah i think well yeah what optional
14175s	reset and he certainly could have tied
14177s	at the very least but the resets went
14178s	down uh only resetting the deflectors
14181s	once each and i think max is getting
14184s	over the hump i think that was the hump
14186s	and max has now cleared it i think this
14189s	might just be plain sailing from here he
14191s	will
14192s	still have to find a siren at some point
14195s	i believe
14196s	but i think the worst of it is certainly
14198s	over at this point for max i think all
14201s	dragon might hold the title of most
14204s	ghost damage so far
14206s	because he just smacked south king for
14208s	11 as a
14211s	ghost okay okay no this is a big deal
14214s	this is a big deal uh usa has found and
14217s	frozen a myrmidon on vol'jin which can
14219s	create a colossal minion the kind of
14222s	minion that can kill
14225s	high rolling naga players in this
14226s	position
14228s	still not the matchup he wants he would
14231s	want it right now again i think max will
14233s	still scale beyond this if given enough
14235s	time
14239s	yeah it's going to swap the snail makes
14241s	perfect sense
14242s	snail's the first card you get rid of
14244s	snail very much in mid game you know
14246s	earlyish game tempo minion and this is
14249s	huge it's going to get at lea it's going
14251s	to double at this point triples when
14253s	it's golden but still that is a huge
14255s	amount of extra stats going on there for
14256s	yonsei
14261s	yeah and a cat hero power
14264s	so very much looking to survive here but
14266s	i'm adding up the numbers on his board
14268s	and it looks very much like it all dies
14271s	to that one myrmadon
14274s	let me check no siren so a two eight a
14277s	two eight a thirteen six like the win
14280s	fury on all these minions won't matter
14282s	because they'll die in one shot anyway
14285s	he's freezing strong shell as well by
14287s	the looks of things so really hard
14289s	locked into tempo at this point yeah 6-0
14292s	again as a small reminder only needs
14294s	four points to put the lobby in check
14296s	but i don't think the camera shake was
14298s	his cat that time subtle because he's
14300s	just looked at his opponent's board and
14302s	as we said it doesn't even look close
14305s	yeah i think that was him seeing 100
14308s	lethal pop up on his
14312s	that looks like to my eyeballs
14314s	yeah and also
14316s	the reason for that most likely is is
14318s	helto all right any minion living so
14320s	what that player actually wins you're
14322s	dead because the taventer kills you
14324s	alone on three health so 6-0 is going to
14325s	go out in seventh which again is not
14327s	enough for him to join the other players
14330s	who have the lobby in check so he's got
14332s	to go again to try and make up that
14334s	difference in the meantime though sauken
14336s	gonna take a victory over dappy put him
14339s	down to 18.
14341s	can we get a max siren check please
14345s	max check
14349s	okay
14351s	why is why is this so much stuff
14356s	with all this stuff
14358s	another siren in hand as well probably
14360s	to end the turn on i imagine if it
14362s	doesn't end up golden at this rate who
14364s	knows
14369s	and i was going to get another siren or
14371s	atheista from the discover
14375s	not that one this one
14386s	the only missing piece of the puzzle now
14388s	really is glow scale that's the only
14391s	thing missing for perfection i would
14393s	argue here
14397s	again like my perfect dream scenario
14399s	naga endgame board does not have a lava
14401s	lurker on it but at this point it's it's
14403s	a golden lava lurker that's already
14406s	seven like a 50 70 right like me
14409s	that is permanent i have sold a similar
14412s	size lava before
14414s	in the game because i was so far ahead
14415s	though yeah i mean i was i had so much
14417s	health and was winning by so much i was
14419s	like i've got time to just and i think i
14421s	did swap it for another siren
14424s	it was like yeah this is worth because i
14426s	know i'm not going to die
14428s	yeah we just dipped in with dappy for a
14430s	second who is the only other player
14432s	eligible to actually win the tournament
14434s	right now it doesn't have to be him that
14436s	stops max but he would be the other
14439s	player in terms of pure self-interest of
14440s	winning the tournament that would be
14441s	ideal to do so
14443s	any of these six remaining players alive
14445s	can try and take on the challenge of
14447s	beating this but looking around the
14449s	tavern as far as i can see it everyone
14451s	else is a third the size of max right
14455s	now from what i'm looking at
14458s	yeah this is the point of no return it
14461s	feels like doesn't it
14465s	it's just
14467s	and this is the insane scaling from naga
14469s	right it just looks too strong nothing
14471s	actually can catch up uh once it gets
14474s	rolling and it got rolling very quickly
14477s	for max indeed yeah
14480s	i suppose
14482s	if we're going okay never mind i was
14484s	gonna say we need to pin our hopes on a
14485s	lich king here because lich king would
14487s	like khadgar
14489s	uh reborn leroy something like that
14492s	could potentially scan the situation i
14494s	doubt that would get anywhere near
14496s	actually winning at this point um
14498s	because it's very easily counterable
14500s	with just like by a voidlord or an
14503s	acolyte or whatever right and then all
14504s	their leroys just died crashing into
14506s	that but in terms of catching one player
14509s	by surprise finding max at the right
14511s	moment and getting that reborn leroy to
14513s	potentially like scam a fight out maybe
14515s	that could have been the the win
14517s	condition for keeping the tournament
14518s	going uh but salking on that lich king
14520s	has unfortunately bit in the dust in uh
14523s	top six going out at the same time as
14525s	alucard and we are now into top four
14528s	daffy holding on with one hp in a dream
14531s	but it's a dream that is rapidly fading
14533s	raven nothing to do with his own health
14536s	total and more to do with the
14538s	ever-growing totals of the health and
14541s	attack on the other side of the board
14543s	and there's the missing piece of the
14544s	puzzle not just one but two in this case
14548s	glow scales coming down to finish off
14550s	this board
14552s	yeah
14553s	it's just perfect isn't it it's just
14554s	been one of those games and like i said
14556s	at the very start and max's choice of
14558s	sky cap and crack when his offerings
14560s	weren't the best uh still a solitaire or
14563s	might not be you know the top of the top
14564s	tier but something i've played a couple
14566s	of times and that boost of just saying
14568s	okay this is the turn either get to six
14571s	or get to five to instantly triple
14573s	things like that to really pop off like
14575s	it does the job it's very you know
14578s	mediocre power in general but as proven
14580s	multiple times so far this weekend you
14583s	only need that one good turn to get
14585s	cooking right you only need that one
14587s	reach for the six
14591s	what do you even say
14593s	look at you
14595s	look at the state of that board in
14598s	comparison to this
14600s	ah
14610s	just waiting
14612s	for the inevitable death
14615s	and the inevitable inevitable stats
14620s	why is there a spawn of his off on the
14622s	boat i don't know it's turn 11. the
14626s	spawn's like guys are you really telling
14628s	me to go in first like look at them
14631s	like why do i have to go in first
14643s	yeah okay volgid now taking down the
14645s	black thorn
14647s	which means we are going to be in a
14649s	straight up head to head i believe no it
14651s	looks like spoiler alert but the gray
14653s	bow actually survives that fight barrack
14655s	okay i guess they are on 31 fair enough
14657s	i suppose
14662s	everyone never feels safe
14664s	not gets this food
14677s	so how much is that 6 12 15 20 22 yeah
14681s	okay so i was about to say maybe if the
14682s	orgazoa landed
14684s	um had value traded on the other side of
14686s	the board and then hadn't been attacked
14688s	into would that have been lethal but it
14689s	still wouldn't have been so i don't
14691s	think that was ever going to be lethal
14692s	on the other side
14693s	but this i think is what it comes down
14695s	to now it's going to be this fight or
14697s	it's going to be nothing uh needs to
14699s	find some way
14701s	to scam the living heck out of this
14704s	fight one time and deals 12 damage
14712s	i mean
14716s	just i i want to say do i want to say
14719s	anything's possible
14721s	but
14722s	when i mean just smaller stats and two
14724s	leroys
14726s	that's not the thing right it needs to
14728s	be
14729s	very big levels of cheese going on to be
14732s	able to yoink a win in this fight and
14734s	when it's just oh well all my minions
14736s	are smaller but i'll play two leroys and
14739s	i'm not having to go at a unsafe for
14740s	this at all he's obviously you know
14742s	putting forward the best board he
14743s	possibly can but two flat leroys and a
14746s	dream isn't enough yeah two very salient
14749s	points here i think firstly
14751s	what we just saw when say do there is
14754s	not good enough and we know that for a
14755s	fact but he doesn't because i don't
14758s	think he's had this fight yet at any
14759s	point right he doesn't know
14761s	he exactly yeah he's alive that's the
14763s	clue that he hasn't fought against max
14765s	yet
14766s	that's the so he doesn't know the scale
14768s	necessarily of what he's up against
14770s	secondly we didn't see the whole turn
14773s	but i'm interested in the fact that the
14775s	uh orgasmer is still there because he
14778s	knows for a fact that the other
14780s	remaining player is zero threat to him
14783s	right like it does not even matter that
14785s	yana say is still alive in this game so
14787s	for as far as he's concerned this is
14789s	final fight so i am a little bit
14791s	surprised that the uh the orgasm hung
14793s	around and he didn't go absolutely all
14795s	in and just trying to kill the opponent
14797s	here by uh beefing up as hard as
14798s	possible it may have been that there was
14800s	nothing attractive enough to really pull
14801s	himself away from this um but that is
14805s	gonna mean 19 damage so now
14809s	now
14809s	he does know what he's up against on the
14812s	other side he knows that stats no longer
14815s	matter and that is a problem that he now
14818s	needs to solve
14819s	and i'm not sure it could be done with
14821s	this board i don't know why it surprised
14823s	y'all made me laugh so much but the fact
14825s	that max just has the ghost this time
14828s	it's like just just funny to me it's
14830s	like yeah let lemto fight it out and
14832s	i'll fight whoever whoever wins that one
14834s	whoever's worthy
14837s	but that's the problem and that's all
14839s	right
14841s	i i think so because that's as in i
14843s	agree with you because like
14846s	how does his comp progress
14848s	from this point he needs a lot more naga
14852s	and i think like no
14854s	you can't just be buying sunbacon
14856s	relaxer as if this is a normal game of
14858s	hearthstone like
14860s	how does this ever win
14864s	surely you have to go to six and find
14866s	like
14867s	17 mantid queens and 12 leroy's right
14870s	like surely that's the only one
14873s	ghoul mantid mantid or something like
14875s	you know just to do something very silly
14878s	i don't even know
14879s	yeah
14880s	but trying to play an honest game as
14882s	we've spoken about will not get you
14885s	first and that generally up until this
14888s	point has been fine if you can get
14889s	second great well not when the person
14891s	getting first is the one who's gonna end
14893s	the tournament and win like that's when
14895s	the problem arises
14905s	[Music]
14909s	because he swapped the stats off the
14911s	siren and then rolled into exactly the
14913s	siren triple which then made swapping
14915s	the stats off the siren the most
14917s	irritating thing that he could have done
14919s	ended up sticking with the original plan
14927s	a little bit painful isn't it
14930s	there's even elements of like
14933s	the acolyte could achieve things going
14936s	forward i'm not sure if it would achieve
14937s	enough but that it's definitely a tech
14939s	card that doesn't often come up right
14942s	oh yeah i mean
14943s	that's a lot of reborn on the other side
14945s	yeah yeah well okay so to be fair to you
14948s	and says decision making this time right
14949s	like from my perspective he beats the
14952s	greyball no matter what right he has a
14954s	116 health minion i don't think he's
14957s	necessarily fought the grey bao either
14960s	so far this game so he might not
14961s	necessarily know what he's up against so
14963s	since he has double leroy up front that
14965s	he has to keep
14967s	he has to keep them right they're
14968s	mandatory they must stay on the board
14971s	therefore he is a little weak against
14974s	any given grave out right because those
14976s	two leroys are terrible against grey bow
14978s	specifically so he might have just felt
14980s	that just the buying and selling spells
14982s	that term was just kind of necessary to
14984s	even get through this fight in
14985s	particular which obviously i disagree
14987s	with because i've seen the fight i know
14990s	what it's going to be i know how big he
14992s	is on the other side there's a good
14993s	point actually there's also the thing
14995s	where if he thinks this is going to be
14996s	the last game and the tournament ends
14998s	he's just making sure he gets second to
15000s	gain more points right like that might
15002s	push him up no i did see that as well
15005s	but i also don't like that attitude
15007s	right like i'm never gonna say is bored
15010s	i know i've been calling this the give
15012s	up board all tournament but you don't
15014s	literally give up like i don't think
15016s	that's the way out of it either you know
15018s	like through leroy and poison scam all
15022s	things are eventually possible right
15024s	like you might have two percent you
15026s	might have three percent you might have
15028s	a fraction of percent
15030s	i don't think there's a naga board that
15033s	can build uh a hundred percent against
15036s	the best possible poison leroy scam that
15039s	you can build on the other side right
15041s	now i'm not saying that you ever get
15043s	anywhere near hitting the best possible
15045s	poison leroy scam but you can at least
15047s	go for it right like the tournament then
15049s	still exists
15053s	looking at this there's a goal there but
15055s	there's just not there's not the money
15057s	there's not the resources if
15059s	if you want to say have like a a handful
15061s	of cards right then you can say okay
15063s	start cycling look for this look for
15066s	that does pick up the ghoul which i do
15068s	like i think google is just something
15070s	you have to grab at this point if you're
15071s	trying to do something funky to to steal
15074s	a game but it just when we flicked from
15076s	max's view to to unsung now it looks
15079s	like we're playing
15080s	the game
15082s	it looks like we're playing two
15083s	different games
15087s	i mean i don't yeah again i don't know
15089s	why i'm on my high horse being critical
15091s	at this point like the real answer is
15093s	hold your hands in the air and say what
15094s	can you actually do about it right like
15096s	sure
15098s	it's just a zap why is there just a zap
15100s	kicking all of this off yes
15103s	why not
15107s	100 lethal challenges the leroy with the
15110s	zap that's why it's there poison takes
15112s	care of the divine shield on the
15114s	quillboard and everything else is just a
15117s	formality meaning that max
15120s	is your lobby legends 2 your lobby
15123s	legends noble garden champion and 10 000
15129s	and the title richer than he was this
15132s	morning yeah and what a huge win for him
15134s	as well because again this is the second
15136s	lobby legends tournament so far and max
15139s	was in the first one as well he
15141s	qualified got through to it uh played in
15144s	it and it must naturally be
15146s	disappointing right the first big
15148s	battlegrounds tournament you know ran by
15150s	blizzard of course like you know it's
15152s	it's a really hype game qualified for it
15155s	getting in and then you don't do so well
15157s	you know it does just feel bad but then
15159s	qualifies again gets on stream again
15162s	gets to this point and then wins it all
15164s	it's just going to be the best feeling
15166s	and well deserved like yes we've all
15168s	seen you know hitting the naga er early
15171s	puts a huge uh increase on your
15173s	potential lobby win rate but these
15175s	players have understood not only the
15177s	best ways to try and do that but also
15179s	when that doesn't happen the best ways
15181s	to gain as many points as possible uh it
15184s	wasn't you know the best start there for
15185s	max in the in the finals today but look
15188s	at that like five points five point
15190s	seven points two and then the seven
15191s	again that is extremely solid the whole
15194s	three and a half points above
15196s	second place and then as you scale down
15199s	there he is like a whole extra win ahead
15202s	of the majority of the players in this
15204s	lobby and these are some of the best
15206s	players in the world so again just a
15209s	huge congratulations there to max on
15211s	there on becoming the champion of lobby
15213s	legends noble garden and i think he
15215s	played really really well
15218s	yeah i think so too i think in general
15220s	um a lot of really impressive moments
15222s	and again i think it was always going to
15224s	be a little bit easier in this
15226s	tournament um because i talked about
15228s	this yesterday like i really enjoy when
15230s	the game is like this because
15232s	the the puzzle has less degrees of
15234s	entropy right or however you want to
15236s	look at it it feels like a more
15238s	inherently solvable game to play
15240s	perfectly when the strategy is hit naga
15244s	or you can't win the lobby right but
15246s	there is still a ton of skill expression
15249s	in the middle of that when it comes to
15252s	maximizing positioning when you're not
15253s	the player that hits making sure you're
15255s	first and not second when you are the
15257s	person that hits but someone else hits
15259s	as well like all these things are kind
15261s	of
15264s	all these various things that you can do
15266s	but when there's
15268s	fewer options on like what are legal
15270s	comps to play essentially it feels more
15272s	inherently solvable for the human brain
15275s	so then i think it also creates a
15276s	scenario where it seems like players
15278s	play better right because there's less
15279s	things to consider so they have they
15281s	make more decisions correctly because
15283s	there's fewer things distracting them
15285s	into making incorrect decisions so i
15287s	think because of that we've seen a
15289s	tournament that for me
15291s	was played to a higher standard than
15293s	what i was looking at from the outside
15295s	um in lobby legends one that's just kind
15297s	of a personal snap decision and it is
15299s	much harder to judge um play skill when
15303s	you are casting than it is from when you
15305s	are watching and not having to say
15306s	things all the time as you well know but
15308s	few people do raven um
15311s	for me i think the quality of this
15313s	tournament overall even though it was a
15315s	linear meta or perhaps even because it
15317s	was a linear meta was super super high
15320s	overall and even with you know max
15322s	taking it down of course we want to give
15324s	max's flowers here but you know shout
15326s	out to sao king who i think had a
15328s	fantastic day too shout out to all
15331s	dragon who i think was potentially the
15333s	player of the tournament overall and
15335s	then dappy in that previous game as well
15338s	putting it all together like there has
15340s	been some insanely cool stuff uh being
15342s	put together in this tournament so i
15344s	have had an absolute blast in this one
15346s	for sure yeah and i think for me as well
15348s	you were talking we were talking about
15350s	the czech format and the big differences
15352s	of how it played out in this tournament
15353s	versus uh the previous lobby legends and
15356s	i've just one thing i can say we can
15359s	talk about how the last finish happens
15361s	or doesn't happen at certain times but
15363s	for me i i really enjoyed the evolution
15366s	of the strategies moving through the
15368s	last day right and we saw that very
15370s	clearly in the players decision making
15372s	whether it was hero choices and comp
15375s	choices uh decisions of what to do even
15377s	within certain fights and how to
15379s	approach that i still just like that
15381s	that all the players that are in check
15383s	just got beaten up at the start of the
15385s	game everyone's like get him quick and
15387s	didn't quite work out that was max did
15389s	end up victorious i mean
15391s	just watching his way out yeah hello
15393s	card on philly's just looking around
15394s	like well i did my job but like what's
15397s	everyone else
15400s	yeah it was really great to watch
15401s	overall but that does mean as we said a
15403s	player that puts the lobby in check wins
15406s	that means the tournament is over they
15408s	are the champion so again another
15410s	congratulations to max there but do you
15412s	have any final words all before we call
15415s	it a day and call it a weekend
15417s	nah i mean that's basically it
15419s	battlegrounds is great casting
15421s	battlegrounds is fantastic battlegrounds
15423s	esports is wonderful long may it
15425s	continue
15426s	really really enjoy this mode it's such
15428s	like a refreshing change of pace to have
15431s	something in hearthstone that like
15434s	weirdly feels high octane something that
15437s	you could like scream and shout about
15438s	and like get into it's really really
15441s	strange like i love constructed and i
15442s	always will
15443s	but i think battlegrounds are such a
15444s	nice change of pace it's been great to
15446s	watch these events happen i hope people
15448s	keep on supporting them i hope people
15449s	continue to have a good time
15451s	huge congratulations to max which is
15454s	absolutely the final thing that i do
15456s	want to say i think he played great
15458s	congratulations a fitting uh champion
15461s	for lobby legend noble guards and
15464s	noble garden and hope to see uh much
15466s	more in the future from max and from the
15468s	large majority of these players honestly
15470s	i think it's been a great show yeah i
15473s	completely agree and for my time
15475s	really casting battlegrounds for the
15476s	first time i had a great time and i
15478s	agree with everything you're saying i
15479s	hope it wasn't too much of a drag on the
15481s	on your more experienced self subtle
15484s	no more so than usual i'm sure is your
15486s	answer there that you know i'm not gonna
15487s	let you say uh but yes just remind
15490s	everyone that if you are interested in
15492s	competing in battlegrounds and competing
15493s	in lobby legends uh any literally anyone
15496s	can do so to qualify you need to get a
15498s	top 16 ladder spot so there's nothing
15501s	stopping you there's no outside
15502s	tournaments there you've just got to
15504s	finish top 16 on the ladder and for more
15506s	information just uh check out
15508s	hearthstone esports on twitter or go to
15510s	playhearthstone.com
15511s	forward slash esports and some other
15513s	place on the site for more information
15515s	on how to qualify and how that system
15517s	works but for now from salt myself
15519s	production lorinda as well as a final
15521s	shower who's been controlling the action
15523s	for you guys choosing what we get to see
15526s	so shout out to everyone there thanks a
15527s	lot for watching we really hope you had
15529s	a great time and we'll see you next time
15531s	in lobby legends
15534s	[Music]
15550s	[Music]
15559s	so
15573s	[Music]
15594s	[Music]
15604s	[Music]
15615s	[Music]
15619s	wow
15623s	[Music]
15646s	so
15651s	[Music]
15686s	love to see the early skype and if you
15687s	can really snipe the kangaroos and
15688s	there's no space which you did
15691s	so only two minions summon only one
15693s	omega buster
15695s	the problem is can we get the plants to
15697s	knock off the divine shields that is the
15700s	dream for collins right now
15704s	[Music]
15710s	and the baron is out
15713s	i think we have a champion we do
15716s	be nice over here we get to see his
15719s	perspective
15720s	we get to see our first lobby legends
15724s	winner
15736s	[Music]
15770s	you

[2022] Lobby Legends - Noblegarden Top 8

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