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950s | okay i can rest this problem now i'm |
953s | much happier having seen this happen pew |
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965s | the cleric is still alive the pyro ready |
968s | to whirlwind the amulet of the undying |
970s | coming down the boar is getting it done |
972s | drovo can see and pocket train is the |
976s | winner of masters tour for sheer water |
979s | performance |
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989s | hello everyone and welcome to day two of |
992s | hearthstone masters tour murder at |
994s | castle nathria not the shortest name for |
997s | a masters tour in the world but |
998s | definitely been a good one so far i'm |
1000s | raven and joining me is edelweiss now we |
1002s | are ready to kick off the day but how |
1004s | did you enjoy yesterday |
1007s | you know i had a blast watching all the |
1009s | matches yesterday we had one with fury |
1011s | hunter where i got to feel vindicated |
1013s | that school teacher belongs in naga |
1015s | priest |
1016s | it's it's been great yeah i think |
1019s | it's always fun to see what people have |
1022s | been |
1023s | hiding and holding out on us we saw that |
1025s | as well with lambie's rogue that has |
1027s | made its way |
1029s | made itself known in this tournament and |
1031s | i think is going to become one of my |
1032s | favorite decks going forward |
1034s | yeah the deck's definitely been making |
1035s | an impact with a lot of players actually |
1037s | uh saying that on paper it didn't look |
1040s | great but they gave it a try and they're |
1041s | actually been impressed by even players |
1043s | who aren't even playing in this masters |
1044s | tour so excited to see how many of those |
1047s | can make it potentially to that top 16 |
1050s | and but we have got a lot of action |
1051s | coming up today but let's just go over |
1053s | the format for anyone who wasn't with us |
1055s | yesterday he's maybe just catching up at |
1057s | the beginning of the weekend and we are |
1059s | of course going to be playing out |
1060s | conquest the go-to competitive format |
1063s | for hearthstone of course there's eight |
1065s | total rounds of swiss we had four played |
1067s | out yesterday we have four more today |
1070s | and then by the end of that we're going |
1071s | to work out who's finishing in that top |
1073s | 16 cut it's gonna be played out tomorrow |
1075s | and then we'll crown our winner so still |
1077s | tons of hearthstone uh coming right up |
1080s | but uh it's been a pretty spicy weekend |
1083s | so far even though we're only one day in |
1085s | with a lot of players of course at that |
1087s | 4-0 mark so excited to see how they can |
1090s | do a little bit later on uh but for now |
1093s | it's uh we'll have to wait just to see |
1094s | what the first match of the day is going |
1096s | to be but before we do let's check out |
1098s | the prize pool and see what these |
1099s | players are competing for and not only |
1102s | prize pool of course but uh potential |
1104s | points to go towards that uh |
1106s | championship that will be coming up in |
1108s | the near future |
1110s | yeah this is the end of an era we don't |
1113s | know what hs esports is gonna look like |
1115s | next year but we're gonna |
1117s | you know take it out with a bang and |
1119s | we've got first place 14 thousand second |
1122s | place ten thousand and i think these pay |
1125s | out pretty far down even below what is |
1127s | being shown here so |
1130s | lots of prize money available to all our |
1132s | competitors and yeah hopefully a chance |
1135s | to qualify for you know the very last of |
1138s | our known events for this year |
1140s | yeah it's going to be a big deal isn't |
1141s | it especially when we start to see who |
1143s | makes that top 16 cut of course it's |
1145s | done by wins overall when we talk about |
1148s | the championship qualification so that |
1150s | will be interesting not to say that you |
1152s | have to make top 16 to have a chance is |
1154s | based on the three masters tours but |
1157s | without diving too much into that for |
1158s | now let's take a look at what happened |
1159s | yesterday we kicked it off with a maybe |
1162s | one of the most stressful times i've |
1163s | seen fury hunter have in this series |
1166s | quite |
1167s | well described by the the imagery of his |
1169s | camera there it was a really really |
1170s | close series very back and forth but |
1172s | capernaum got the job done and got a |
1174s | very nice win there and then things |
1176s | started to speed up just a little bit |
1178s | didn't they |
1179s | yeah we've got our very |
1181s | expressionless dryer phone trying to get |
1183s | there with a hunter against the druid |
1186s | but just not able to present a fast |
1188s | enough threat and ends up getting |
1190s | overrun by topiar just a very powerful |
1193s | tool for druids these days and here you |
1195s | see the topiar on the side of gia |
1199s | not you know |
1200s | unfortunately for us as casters pulling |
1203s | for her but |
1204s | not quite able to get there against |
1205s | soteg sotek played very well the whole |
1208s | series uh hope maybe we'll see both of |
1210s | them later on and then we saw donkey |
1213s | versus sx wl uh going up here in a quick |
1217s | 3-0 win donkey doing fantastic i think |
1220s | we'll be uh maybe checking in with |
1222s | donkey in the very near future once |
1224s | again on stream because he seems to be |
1225s | having one of those just very very good |
1228s | runs indeed we did then jump over to |
1230s | swan versus incaro where swan managed to |
1233s | take the series at 3-2 and with yet |
1235s | again any shaman shown on these replays |
1237s | but there's that rookie we were talking |
1239s | about with monsanto piloting it and |
1240s | they're looking very very strong indeed |
1243s | just overrun enticed on the celestial |
1245s | druid and not really able to get the |
1248s | benefit of the alignment going off there |
1250s | is monsanto just having enough damage to |
1252s | close it out in a good amount of time |
1255s | yeah and then a surprise fast win from |
1258s | the shaman here where the evolve just |
1260s | rolls battleground battlemaster and |
1262s | zolchi is able to just take a win |
1264s | against the hunter out of nowhere uh |
1266s | sort of accidental nice positioning for |
1269s | the battle master there |
1271s | and the devil matt had a really good |
1273s | series against reimu overall but this |
1275s | game was exactly what he wanted to see |
1276s | with his hunter he got a very strong |
1278s | start with one drop into buff buff and |
1280s | so on with wild spirits and it was just |
1283s | too much to handle for the warlock and |
1285s | then their impact versus reliquary was |
1287s | one of the later matches we had |
1289s | yesterday with reliquary just about |
1291s | finishing off impact couldn't quite get |
1293s | enough done even though weirdly enough |
1295s | he was the shaman as the tavish but |
1298s | maybe go back and watch the vodka |
1299s | understand how that happened and then we |
1301s | had this amazing ending to the to the |
1303s | day for us because we cast this one of |
1306s | c8 just absolutely demolishing construct |
1309s | in that final game getting a win with |
1311s | that curse wall up and really popping |
1313s | off with one of the new legendaries yeah |
1316s | i think it shows just the power of lady |
1318s | dark vayne and how many curses you can |
1320s | get rolling now brandly darkvane there |
1323s | giving four curses immediately for |
1325s | lethal and curse warlock i think has |
1327s | been surprisingly strong performance |
1330s | over the weekend when you do look at the |
1332s | stats |
1334s | and where's shaman |
1335s | you know still strong it's being banned |
1338s | i think 41 percent of the time it's it's |
1341s | the top ban for the tournament |
1343s | yeah it's always difficult is that when |
1344s | there's one class or you know one or two |
1347s | decks that you everyone knows is good |
1349s | everyone knows that a lot of people are |
1350s | going to bring it like it's win |
1353s | win rate might not look as impressive |
1355s | but that's normally because the only |
1356s | people leaving it up are generally |
1358s | people who have a plan against it that's |
1361s | normally how this sort of overall |
1362s | strategy goes in at conquest but before |
1364s | we dive into the first match of the day |
1366s | on stream let's take a look at the |
1368s | standings and see where everyone is |
1369s | going into day two as i said take a look |
1372s | at those four o's and see the players |
1374s | who have i guess just simply the best |
1377s | chance of making it to top 16 as of this |
1379s | moment in time uh i do believe as a |
1381s | slight spoiler i think donkey's already |
1384s | won his his round five match saying he's |
1386s | currently sitting 5-0 already but this |
1389s | was coming into today so a lot of great |
1391s | names on that 4-0 score edelweiss |
1393s | yeah reliquary who we saw went over |
1395s | impact yesterday with that quest hunter |
1398s | and uh yeah monsanto coming out in the |
1401s | 15 spot there i think we'd be cheering |
1404s | for him as well but lots of new players |
1407s | additionally |
1409s | so |
1410s | everyone has you know an opportunity |
1412s | here and of course the three ones are |
1414s | still in it as well and there are very |
1415s | very many three ones who have the |
1417s | opportunity to win out and claim their |
1420s | spot in the top eight yeah i'm sure |
1422s | there'll be plenty of cheers for |
1423s | monsanto and a few other players of |
1425s | course than the masters tour because uh |
1427s | there might be the glimmer of hope for |
1430s | the rarest of all creatures |
1432s | and america's masters tour winner uh in |
1434s | the wild we might see it one day |
1437s | one one day |
1439s | there's got to be hope until the day |
1441s | that masters tours don't exist anymore |
1443s | there's still going to be hope but let's |
1445s | take a look at who we're going to kick |
1446s | off the day with it's going to be |
1447s | thunder versus love storm love storm a |
1450s | previous winner of a masters tour |
1452s | winninger and nixie's light a while back |
1455s | now i think at the start of the year and |
1456s | he's going to be going up against |
1458s | thunder and this is a pretty mixed bag |
1460s | kind of line up here love storm uh |
1462s | bringing the you know the 40 card |
1464s | chairman 40 card alignment druid but |
1466s | then curse warlock with some imps in |
1469s | there as well uh and then the mine rogue |
1472s | going up against thunder who has the |
1474s | lambie rogue face hunter the um |
1478s | oh yeah this is just the the imp lock |
1480s | sorry i was just trying to get so many |
1482s | different cards in these lists and the |
1484s | shaman himself so two very different |
1487s | lineups actually going against each |
1488s | other with the hunter and chairman |
1490s | bandai |
1491s | yeah we'll sort of get to see which |
1492s | rogue is going to reign supreme here i |
1494s | don't believe we've seen a mine rogue |
1496s | yet today on broadcast but it's one that |
1499s | i've heard can perform well against |
1501s | these lambie rogues we'll have to put |
1503s | that to the test uh as you say though |
1506s | imp warlock it almost is |
1508s | a misnomer sometimes when there's curses |
1511s | mixed in there or they're doing kale |
1514s | fast and atheist things it's sort of |
1516s | riding on the strength of sort of the |
1519s | imp package and then filling it out with |
1521s | whatever other strategy you is to your |
1524s | liking right |
1526s | and here we look at some of the key |
1527s | parts about love storm of course as i |
1529s | said the masters tournix is layer winner |
1532s | and a great record this year 67.5 |
1536s | win rate uh in in obviously competitive |
1539s | hearthstone is something that i would be |
1541s | very happy with myself and and also a |
1544s | fellow caster so not uh g not the only |
1546s | caster who's playing in the tournament |
1548s | today you'd love to see it |
1550s | hey language hacker is playing in the |
1551s | tournament too so you know we can maybe |
1554s | include him as well |
1557s | yeah it becomes very interesting doesn't |
1559s | it where where do we draw the line |
1561s | between a caster and someone who has |
1563s | cast before because suddenly we'll have |
1565s | to like think about putting hunt |
1567s | into race in this list and i'm not sure |
1569s | how i feel about that we'll have to i'll |
1570s | speak to casper on that one uh but for |
1572s | now uh we are gonna see what the players |
1575s | are gonna queue into that game number |
1577s | one i'm really excited for this just |
1578s | because the lineups are so so different |
1580s | both players as you mentioned having |
1582s | access to those rogues we are going to |
1584s | see thunder kick it off with lambie |
1585s | rogue first and also just these warlocks |
1588s | as well they're going to be pretty cool |
1590s | to see who comes out on top but this |
1592s | list taking the world by storm at the |
1594s | moment otherwise |
1596s | yeah you do still have shadowcrafters |
1598s | scabs at the top there but otherwise |
1600s | it's really all about the early game you |
1602s | know that's just kind of a backup you've |
1603s | got the sinstone graveyard door of |
1606s | shadows i think has really impressed me |
1609s | you know if you can infuse it which it's |
1611s | only infused too so it's often not that |
1614s | hard with just |
1615s | you know a couple of early minions but |
1617s | even uninfused just drawing a spell can |
1619s | be fine |
1620s | it feels fantastic though when you dwarf |
1622s | shadows into step and get an extra step |
1624s | or same thing with preparation those are |
1626s | the turns you really get to pop off and |
1628s | make a massive necro-lord draco weapon |
1631s | or uh stealth ghost |
1634s | yeah it's it's a deck that i'll honestly |
1637s | say when i first looked today i was like |
1639s | okay you just play stuff and get them |
1641s | you know like this that's a level one |
1643s | strategy there but the more you play it |
1645s | and the more you well i lose with it you |
1648s | quickly realize that it's a it's a lot |
1650s | about planning taking a step back |
1653s | instead of having two okay turns it's |
1656s | normally better to sit back and and have |
1658s | a weaker turn into a very strong turn |
1661s | and that's actually often way better for |
1663s | your overall game plan but tricky to |
1665s | actually master because to do that i do |
1667s | feel like you need a good amount of |
1668s | experience and i would be very |
1670s | interested to know how much uh all the |
1673s | players who have submitted this list |
1675s | have actually you know how many games |
1676s | they've got under their belt because i |
1678s | think there's a lot of that just |
1679s | experience that's required knowing okay |
1682s | how many cards is too many how often do |
1684s | you actually just dump a prep to kind of |
1686s | do nothing except above your turn so to |
1689s | speak and things like that so it could |
1691s | be interesting to see that play out and |
1693s | it's going to be the rogue mirror but |
1695s | definitely not in archetypes |
1698s | yeah this has been another deck that's |
1700s | taken some transformations where |
1702s | initially it was just all about mines |
1705s | and and going face very quickly and then |
1707s | it shifted over to throwing in a burning |
1709s | blade acolyte and going for swift scale |
1712s | trickster plus smoke screen which |
1714s | when it hits with the graveyard active |
1716s | can be |
1717s | quite powerful i mean getting the draw |
1719s | five on turn you know four or three with |
1722s | coin obviously strong on its own but if |
1724s | you do manage to pull out a couple of |
1726s | five eight taunts or you know eight |
1728s | damage to the face quite thrilled about |
1730s | that and yeah sometimes even without the |
1733s | smoke screen you can just do snowfall |
1735s | into sketchy information into |
1737s | counterfeit blade and the damage just |
1739s | ramps up very very quickly i would have |
1741s | thought this deck would be harder to run |
1744s | into a lot of the 40 health lists right |
1746s | now but perhaps the burning blade |
1748s | acolytes are able to shore up |
1750s | some of the extra damage that you need |
1752s | to to get through against them yeah it's |
1754s | very interesting isn't it because a lot |
1756s | of the 40 health lists they don't |
1757s | actually have access to that much |
1759s | healing so although they obviously have |
1760s | a natural plus 10 health going into the |
1763s | game which you'd never want to see as |
1764s | mine rogue it's not like there's ton |
1766s | it's like everyone's playing forty |
1767s | health paladin right and they are priest |
1770s | and has endless healing right now so i |
1772s | do think it's a it's a good plan a |
1774s | followed by some of that more late game |
1776s | that you were talking about so very |
1777s | interested see how this one pans out so |
1780s | far we are getting into it thunder |
1781s | versus love storm game one snowfall |
1785s | graveyard kept |
1788s | i think for both decks the graveyard is |
1790s | gonna tend to be a keep it's just such a |
1792s | powerful card in each obviously in |
1794s | different ways but |
1796s | even if |
1797s | you are wanting to hit the draw in this |
1800s | mine rogue graveyard just increases your |
1803s | threat potential by by so much that it's |
1805s | it's worth keeping but |
1807s | both minds is |
1809s | not what you're hoping for as this deck |
1811s | you really want to pull those |
1813s | off of your your draw spells so uh |
1817s | yeah a bit unfortunate there for love |
1819s | storm in terms of this opening just |
1820s | having to |
1821s | dagger up and swing |
1823s | gonna be looking for a smoke screen on |
1825s | that turn four with the trickster but if |
1828s | we don't find something quick it's it's |
1830s | really not going to be there it's |
1832s | thunder's hand on the other hand |
1835s | just kind of all the juice warlock hero |
1837s | power as well dangerous into something |
1839s | like a mine rogue but the resources can |
1842s | uh be quite helpful |
1844s | yeah it's gonna be interesting to see |
1845s | how thunder actually approaches this |
1848s | because you know while paul just |
1850s | throwing it out there is fine there's |
1852s | not tons of ways it actually dies with |
1854s | that health but to choose to go for the |
1856s | life tap because again |
1858s | you know that outside of those potential |
1861s | taunts |
1862s | that this rogue doesn't really stop you |
1865s | doing anything though the rogue's very |
1867s | focused on themselves a lot of the time |
1869s | right very selfish class um so |
1872s | thunder knows if he can wait and then |
1874s | have one of those big pop off turns |
1876s | there's nothing that really stops him |
1879s | just swinging face either with the uh |
1881s | the big dagger or with the big stealth |
1883s | minions so i do actually like utilizing |
1885s | the live tap especially after not really |
1887s | seeing too much come out from love storm |
1889s | so far but he doesn't like he's going to |
1891s | take this turn to activate the graveyard |
1893s | that's going to last a few turns and |
1895s | hopefully for his sake |
1897s | it gets some damage through at least |
1900s | yeah i like this you sort of need to |
1901s | take advantage of as much mana |
1903s | efficiency as possible on something like |
1905s | the mine rogue so doing the three mena |
1907s | spell now |
1908s | so that you can get down forsaken |
1910s | lieutenant and maybe a naval mine on the |
1912s | same turn swing into something like this |
1914s | and all activate your counterfeit blade |
1917s | it's not quite gonna line up in terms of |
1920s | being able to |
1921s | double the death rattle on the |
1922s | counterfeit blade unless you are able to |
1925s | break it yourself somehow but uh still |
1928s | getting in the double damage this turn |
1930s | you know they're not able to clear the |
1932s | other mine without taking double damage |
1934s | as well |
1936s | furthering that game plan |
1937s | just how you want to as the mine rogue |
1939s | and that's why i'm a little surprised to |
1941s | have seen that tap previously from |
1943s | thunder because you could have just gone |
1945s | with a coin |
1946s | shroud of concealment and be able to |
1948s | play the knoll for free |
1953s | yeah we'll see if it punishes thunder or |
1955s | not but he's making a big play on to the |
1957s | board now |
1958s | love storm did get because that death |
1960s | threat went off he does get to |
1961s | counterfeit blade if he really wants to |
1964s | does have now double tooth |
1966s | there's an alternate option here to |
1967s | clear up some of this |
1970s | and i think love storms may be |
1972s | considering just |
1973s | trying to use this graveyard while it's |
1975s | still there maybe thinking about using |
1978s | tooth on his own |
1980s | mind |
1981s | you know you can't do that on both minds |
1982s | but you can sort of get one in play and |
1984s | kill one and then use the counterfeit |
1986s | blade on the next turn yeah he can |
1988s | always start by using a tooth on the |
1990s | null |
1991s | right unless he's thinking about saving |
1992s | it anyway |
1995s | yeah of course i do think it's worth |
1996s | just seeing what you can fish out here |
1998s | it kills a null very cleanly you get the |
2000s | discover yes it maybe doesn't strictly |
2003s | accelerate your own game plan but |
2006s | it it does something i think anything |
2007s | else might be a little bit |
2010s | awkward but love storm looks like he's |
2012s | gonna say you know what actually |
2013s | i might just equip the dagger and hit |
2015s | them in the face because that's what |
2017s | that does and i can respect it i don't |
2019s | know if it's the play i would make but i |
2020s | can definitely respect it |
2022s | i mean you definitely are on you know a |
2024s | bit of a race here to to get them killed |
2027s | so equipping the weapon now gives you |
2029s | the most time to get the value out of it |
2032s | even if you lose the graveyard uh it's |
2034s | another you know four damage to face |
2036s | plus the four from the death rattle uh |
2038s | so that is a setup here in terms of |
2041s | having six damage from hand |
2043s | with the two |
2044s | tooths |
2046s | could just be enough |
2051s | yeah it's just actually going to have |
2052s | enough right yeah just a two-turn set up |
2055s | yeah i actually just did nothing expect |
2056s | the damage from the second west wing for |
2058s | some reason |
2060s | you know four damage weapons in rogue |
2063s | are just |
2064s | they tend to be powerful one way or |
2066s | another all the time and this one is in |
2069s | some ways |
2071s | an extra four damage right almost an |
2073s | extra durability because of how |
2075s | frequently it just gets the mayan death |
2076s | rattle so very quick game for love storm |
2079s | there and uh from my understanding that |
2081s | is just how it goes sometimes like like |
2084s | you say no healing from the other rogue |
2086s | so 30 health able to get taken care of |
2089s | very quickly |
2090s | yeah definitely a tough one and again |
2092s | it's one of those match-ups where even |
2094s | though love storm didn't strictly get |
2096s | the nuts opening i do think him getting |
2099s | the forsaken lieutenant saved him in |
2102s | that game because then he could okay pop |
2104s | that death rattle great and then the |
2106s | weapon becomes much stronger because it |
2108s | gains that death rattle and then from |
2110s | that point he could do the face hunter |
2111s | thing right how much health does my |
2113s | opponent have how much damage do i do |
2115s | how likely are they to burst and again |
2117s | something about this rogue on |
2119s | thunderside |
2120s | although we like the deck a lot it |
2122s | hasn't really got |
2123s | any consistent burst right |
2126s | outside of exactly a big dagger out of |
2128s | nowhere which is unlikely on this turn |
2130s | with the cell and it doesn't really have |
2132s | that guaranteed huge damage |
2135s | so lovestorm felt pretty confident that |
2137s | he was living that |
2139s | yeah absolutely i mean wicked stab at |
2141s | that turn only does four you know they |
2144s | do have tooth but it's really just not |
2146s | the same level of |
2148s | out of nowhere damage that the mind |
2150s | rogue is able to produce so sometimes |
2152s | you just have to |
2154s | resist the urge to say oh i've got to |
2156s | clear some of this stuff you know what |
2158s | if they have |
2159s | something to put in the way but no |
2161s | reconnaissance i think in in this |
2163s | version of the lambie rogue so |
2166s | no potential taunts out of nowhere i |
2168s | think love storm is feeling pretty |
2170s | confident in that two-term lethal setup |
2172s | and then next up i do believe that love |
2174s | stop is going to jump over to his druid |
2176s | which is the 40 card alignment |
2179s | version and again this one a little bit |
2181s | spicy because |
2183s | this is one of the decks that might |
2185s | struggle just a little bit against this |
2187s | rogue because thunder is going to stick |
2189s | on this lambie rogue uh if like uh and |
2192s | they said if lambie now that's my |
2194s | frustration with the name oh no i |
2196s | started calling everyone |
2197s | um but if |
2199s | if thunder can actually get one of the |
2201s | openings like with the double knolls get |
2203s | an early sin stone and do that it looks |
2206s | great but you aren't really guaranteed |
2209s | that opening as the rogue so it could |
2211s | get a little bit tricky because the the |
2213s | fear factor with druid it's not like the |
2214s | old days where if you stick a couple of |
2216s | minions you feel great like lust on one |
2219s | has 40 health and two is playing druid |
2221s | today which means that the access to |
2224s | ramp is ridiculous he's also running |
2226s | double earthen scales which means |
2228s | even late game as long as he's not dead |
2230s | if he gets to land one big minion and in |
2232s | earthen scales suddenly |
2235s | the druid becomes very quickly out of |
2237s | reach of the rogue |
2239s | yeah it really is going to be important |
2241s | to snowball the early game from this |
2245s | rogue and we saw that happen against |
2247s | tice earlier but sometimes the draws are |
2250s | a little more awkward you do have to |
2251s | wait a little while to get a payoff and |
2253s | if the druid is ramping during that time |
2256s | they're just going to |
2258s | take full advantage to be able to |
2260s | put out you know enormous minions it's |
2263s | one of the weird things you notice when |
2264s | you start playing this roguelist is |
2266s | there actually aren't that many minions |
2268s | in the deck right like you actually |
2270s | quickly realize a lot of the deck i mean |
2273s | two prep shadow steps cutlass door of |
2276s | shadows uh gun fishing extortion that's |
2279s | like you know i'm already getting to the |
2280s | point where that's nearly half the deck |
2282s | it's just all those like sort of cheap |
2283s | spells that are good for achieving your |
2286s | goal but not good on their own right you |
2288s | need that sin stone uh to be able to |
2290s | utilize those and a lot of those cards |
2292s | don't actually achieve much versus druid |
2295s | specifically because they're not playing |
2297s | that many minions that like extortion |
2300s | yeah or even the um bone spikes are |
2303s | really gonna have an effect versus right |
2305s | they're not just dumping out little |
2306s | minions all the time so we'll have to |
2308s | see how this one goes but i do feel like |
2310s | thunder's gonna need something |
2312s | really good to actually get going maybe |
2314s | even a start similar to the previous |
2316s | game |
2317s | yeah i think that one of the reasons |
2319s | something like a filet fighter is in the |
2321s | deck is not just because it's a very |
2322s | cheap thing to play that does damage but |
2325s | also because it's a thing you can kill |
2327s | on your own with bone spike to get the |
2329s | combos rolling if your opponent doesn't |
2331s | have uh minions for you to be hitting so |
2334s | it kind of serves that double function |
2336s | you know the lack of minions is sort of |
2339s | a double-edged sword because it does |
2341s | allow you to take full advantage of |
2342s | shroud of concealment |
2344s | so that card is able to fairly reliably |
2347s | draw you the very few but very powerful |
2350s | minions within the deck so you can find |
2352s | something like an edwin or a draka to |
2354s | really get your win condition rolling |
2357s | but |
2358s | here's one of those awkward hands |
2359s | krabatoa and shadowcrafter scabs not |
2362s | exactly what thunder's looking for in an |
2364s | opener |
2366s | also just look at love storm's hand what |
2369s | else do you want in life apart from this |
2372s | hand what he had jerry rigg turned to |
2375s | wild growth into golf into whatever part |
2378s | of nourish he wants to cast he has the |
2380s | northern scales already which means as |
2382s | soon as he just has the option of one of |
2384s | many of the large minions in the deck he |
2387s | can just gain a million armor at the |
2389s | moment thunder's considering the air the |
2392s | weird choice i've thought about a few |
2393s | times is sin stone on two feels |
2395s | fantastic but you also reveal yourself |
2398s | as rogue which means the wild paws don't |
2400s | really get any cheaper so it's kind of a |
2403s | weird juggling thing i played the game |
2405s | earlier where i actually waited another |
2406s | turn and ended up going sin stone wild |
2409s | paw wild ball which paid off a lot but |
2411s | it's very tricky to decide |
2413s | oh and to immediately pick up the shroud |
2416s | you know you obviously couldn't have |
2417s | known that would happen but waiting one |
2419s | more turn would have meant the null goes |
2421s | down to two and then zero once you play |
2423s | the shroud so |
2425s | maybe a little bit of a punish there for |
2427s | thunder but you can just play the null |
2429s | for three and a three and a three five |
2430s | rush is still a good rate just not |
2433s | exactly what you're looking for and i |
2434s | think more importantly the other null is |
2436s | also going to be yeah |
2438s | i'm just sorry just look at that i was |
2440s | waiting for thunder's response and it |
2442s | was the correct one |
2443s | yeah a unhappy laugh if such a thing |
2447s | exists from thunder there seeing the gov |
2449s | get played on curve and now there's even |
2451s | more that came from oh no even the |
2454s | innervate to get out the hero power to |
2456s | be on eight ready for this alignment |
2459s | next turn uh followed by all of the |
2462s | nourishes and another wild growth |
2464s | honestly i i don't know what you do |
2466s | about that it's all over |
2468s | even if the hand were better you don't |
2470s | quite get going this quickly as the |
2472s | rogue most of the time so |
2475s | unless thunder is able to present you |
2477s | know a very strong board right now and |
2480s | and love storm just sort of draws dead i |
2483s | i don't know how far you're getting i i |
2487s | guess |
2487s | never bring us krapatoa and scabs are at |
2490s | least great things to have going into an |
2493s | opposing alignment because they get |
2494s | cheaper |
2496s | but saving this coin is rough i think |
2499s | that turn honestly would have had to |
2501s | have been like shadow step prep door of |
2505s | shadows something else and then end with |
2507s | the sin stone and uh |
2509s | uh dagger and necrolord um you know |
2512s | something that silly right like that |
2514s | many things to really pop off to have |
2516s | any chance i'm not even saying that |
2518s | would win i'm just saying that'll give |
2519s | thunder a chance but now with all of the |
2522s | ramp available the scale of enyxia as |
2525s | well just to laugh |
2527s | why not |
2529s | yeah i mean i think you tend against |
2532s | this 40 car druid to sort of say okay |
2535s | well we we don't just play around all |
2537s | the things because it's 40 cards they |
2539s | they they don't just have it right and |
2541s | then to get a discovered alignment |
2544s | sort of is just extra salt in the wound |
2546s | here and yeah as you say i think we |
2548s | would have had to get |
2550s | at least some semblance of a stealth |
2552s | minion off of the cemetery already |
2554s | because now |
2555s | you're never really getting anything too |
2557s | high maybe a 4-4 if you go |
2560s | you know coin door prep something |
2565s | oh it's a big ask and honest honestly i |
2568s | wouldn't be too surprised if we saw a |
2571s | swift concede from sunday if |
2573s | thunder was blise right now we'd already |
2576s | be in the next game uh because he does |
2578s | not mess about yeah there we go i |
2580s | thought so yeah |
2581s | because there's just no way he just |
2583s | can't do anything he's barely even |
2585s | scratched lovestorm's health total |
2587s | we knew that there was plenty more |
2589s | health where that came from and |
2592s | the second love storm pops off with not |
2594s | only the alignment but then multiple |
2596s | sort of nourishes he had available as |
2598s | well and then to finish the turn with |
2601s | raid boss and nixia it's like well |
2603s | uh thunder's never getting back on board |
2605s | again and you can't win the game as that |
2608s | rogue without being on board so yeah |
2610s | really really rough series so far |
2612s | thunder probably a little bit frustrated |
2614s | right about now but he's gonna have to |
2616s | keep his cool because he's still got a |
2618s | chance |
2619s | yeah and that's what separates you know |
2621s | sort of the best players from the the |
2623s | pretty good players is if you're able to |
2625s | keep that mental game rolling say okay |
2627s | i'm down two but i'm just gonna pretend |
2629s | it's zero zero pull myself together and |
2631s | we can still come back and get the |
2633s | reverse sweep uh you know it's |
2635s | heartbreaking to to just get blown out |
2637s | like that but i think sometimes if |
2639s | you're able to get your head on straight |
2640s | you're able to say okay that happens |
2643s | it's not my fault you know i did what i |
2644s | could uh we weren't gonna win that one |
2647s | and just move on |
2649s | yeah i mean that's the thing uh in a |
2650s | perfect world and this obviously isn't |
2652s | necessarily the case but you take the |
2654s | very logical approach of right well the |
2657s | game's over it's done it doesn't matter |
2659s | anymore right that the game's lost let's |
2661s | move on to the next game because what's |
2663s | happened already just doesn't matter in |
2665s | any way because thunder's plan is still |
2668s | the same he needs to win with each of |
2669s | his decks like that's plan hasn't really |
2671s | changed yet so uh yeah got to keep his |
2673s | head on straight and keep us cool for |
2675s | this but it looks like now of course |
2677s | love storm gonna have this warlock uh |
2680s | left to go with and it is a |
2682s | predominantly the curse lock and again |
2684s | there are some imps in there but again |
2686s | it's mainly for that air for that car |
2689s | draw from impending catastrophe as |
2691s | something that we've seen you know who |
2693s | would have thought warlock likes card |
2694s | draw and so it is gonna have the |
2697s | impending catastrophe some of the imps |
2699s | and again because of that |
2700s | if you've got space you sort of go well |
2702s | if i'm playing any games i should |
2704s | probably play vowel library and then it |
2706s | sort of beefs itself out into this i |
2708s | wouldn't even call it a 50 50 deck |
2710s | mainly a 60 40 deck for curses and then |
2713s | imps |
2714s | yeah this is a little bit different than |
2715s | the one we saw yesterday yesterday it |
2717s | was an xl deck so 40 cards and uh still |
2720s | running things like bran etc to go all |
2723s | in on the curses this is you're sticking |
2725s | to the three cards you still have your |
2727s | your flame imps and things it's not just |
2730s | shipment and circle to go with impending |
2732s | catastrophe uh kind of much more hybrid |
2736s | sort of feel where you're you're wanting |
2738s | to get that early in start to kind of |
2741s | put pressure on your opponent with the |
2742s | vile library being so powerful but then |
2744s | the curses act as |
2746s | sort of an awkward burst that you have |
2749s | access to yeah you know maybe gives you |
2752s | a little bit of edge against some other |
2754s | import locks as well because you |
2756s | actually do have a comeback in the form |
2758s | of things like abyssal wave but yeah |
2761s | sometimes |
2762s | if you're the imp deck you just lose |
2764s | board and you're like well but i got |
2766s | enough damage in we'll we'll throw some |
2767s | curses your way and just you know draw |
2770s | it out especially with the prevalence of |
2772s | freeze decks right now looking at |
2774s | shaymin and mage specifically of course |
2775s | like if your board gets frozen with pure |
2778s | imps there's almost nothing you can do |
2780s | you just pass right so at least with |
2783s | curses there are options there and |
2785s | basically what this does for lovestorm |
2787s | is it sacrifices the normal healing and |
2789s | removal from a lot of older curse locks |
2792s | and replaces it saying well i won't need |
2794s | the healing removal if i just have imps |
2796s | on the board to fight anyway so we'll |
2798s | see how this one plays out starting off |
2800s | with again a couple of hips down right |
2802s | now thunder yet again with a null in his |
2805s | opening hand one thing that has been |
2806s | going right for him is that those nulls |
2809s | seems to get them every single game so |
2811s | far |
2813s | yeah and i think there's a decision here |
2815s | in terms of do you play the filet |
2816s | fighter or keep discounting that null |
2818s | this time going for the extra discounts |
2820s | but |
2821s | vile library could just come down and |
2824s | start |
2825s | you know hitting with some pretty chunky |
2826s | minions i think you go for that over the |
2828s | draw |
2829s | yeah i'm even staring at this coin and |
2833s | librarian coin obviously valuable in |
2835s | this deck because you aren't just |
2837s | running imps |
2838s | but it's an extra you know i guess three |
2841s | three at this moment in time |
2843s | difficult to work out if it's worthwhile |
2845s | though |
2846s | yeah i'm not sure i mean you could just |
2849s | play it next turn with an impending |
2850s | catastrophe you know it's not the crazy |
2853s | amount of draw that you see sometimes |
2854s | out of that card but i think just two |
2856s | mana draw two is a really solid rate |
2858s | when you think about it |
2860s | and uh not having to you know take the |
2862s | time to tap but |
2864s | looks like love storm likes your line |
2866s | yeah i like this because what love storm |
2868s | wants to draw next turn probably is |
2870s | circle right but if you draw a circle |
2873s | next turn this turn looks insane because |
2875s | you just pre-load all the damage so i do |
2878s | like this a lot actually there are a lot |
2879s | of cards that are just imps in the deck |
2882s | and even if it draws zero imps as you |
2884s | said there's impending catastrophe and |
2886s | also there's just you get a 3 3 on board |
2889s | to attack which i think is worth |
2890s | something itself |
2892s | oh and the second all picked up for |
2894s | thunder so i think we're going to see |
2897s | one of these go into the 4-4 plus the |
2900s | fillet fighter or |
2902s | okay this was another another option |
2904s | right so you just eliminate the lower |
2906s | health ones and then try keep a stealth |
2909s | so you can use that damaged null to |
2912s | finish up the |
2914s | 4-4 |
2917s | can you imagine if these locations |
2919s | didn't have that one-turn cooldown i |
2921s | just think that was |
2923s | i mean the hunter one would still be bad |
2925s | but all the others will be discussed in |
2926s | here oh i i think the only reason the |
2929s | hunter one looks bad is because hunter |
2931s | has so many good cards |
2933s | that he just has no opportunity it's bad |
2935s | because it's not a minion and a hunter |
2937s | not playing something like onto spending |
2940s | two mana and passing is never a good |
2941s | thing |
2943s | but okay but say you just play something |
2945s | on one and you give it to attack and you |
2947s | hit him in the face |
2948s | you know i tried out some games where |
2950s | you just play a click clocker give it |
2952s | plus two attack you hit them it doesn't |
2953s | have to hit a beast every time |
2958s | i will agree to disagree i'm very |
2961s | into location but anyway uh this little |
2964s | viral library is going to be able to pop |
2965s | off and also love storm gets the |
2967s | opportunity to use grandma if he really |
2969s | wants to i think a pretty good |
2971s | opportunity honestly you know they're |
2973s | just one ones you |
2974s | you're kind of fine with sacrificing a |
2976s | one one you just use the vile library |
2978s | first to get the most stats |
2980s | uh yeah now you're contesting that null |
2982s | and |
2983s | powering up |
2984s | your uh king rafam |
2987s | now i've done that right |
2989s | yeah i'm curious here if you were to |
2992s | curve out lady dark vayne so he would |
2994s | have two grimoires but they don't |
2996s | sacrifice anything right they would just |
2997s | do the two damage |
3002s | oh that's a good point i've not done it |
3005s | yet so i don't know |
3007s | is that how it works it just deals two |
3009s | i'll take your word for it you sound |
3010s | more knowledgeable than me i mean it's |
3012s | not like it's going to bring up a menu |
3014s | to pick something to sacrifice so i got |
3016s | it |
3017s | i didn't know if it just it did pick |
3019s | something to sacrifice do you know what |
3021s | i mean the game well something or not so |
3023s | that would certainly be a reason not to |
3025s | play later |
3026s | i really want him to do it now i we need |
3029s | for science |
3031s | i think the dark vein is there for extra |
3033s | curses so i'm sure it's much more likely |
3035s | that love storm will go for something |
3036s | like the wicked shipment plus vial |
3038s | library plus just to get the vial |
3041s | library down now so it'll be active |
3043s | again the turn after you play in the |
3045s | king rafam sort of threatening lethal i |
3047s | think is pretty powerful you can weave |
3049s | in a tap as well |
3051s | justine i was actually just looking |
3053s | where the dark veins just an okay tempo |
3055s | play |
3058s | i think that's true but the the threat |
3060s | of imps on board is always just that |
3063s | something like an m king reform on curve |
3066s | gives them plus two plus two |
3068s | yeah that is very very fair |
3071s | this is still very good of course gets |
3073s | to |
3074s | push some damage as well |
3077s | stomp |
3078s | incredible this series is not doing the |
3080s | best to promote this lambie air rogue i |
3083s | could already hear lambie just put foul |
3085s | in a request to rename the deck after |
3086s | this |
3088s | to remove his name from it |
3090s | yeah but edwin you know maybe turning |
3092s | things around a little bit here if you |
3094s | pick up a key |
3096s | key thing off the top dagger will finish |
3099s | up that 5-2 and uh i don't think you |
3101s | want to play a step at this point i |
3102s | think you won a 12-12 |
3105s | agreed |
3108s | oh |
3109s | i suppose the question is whether to |
3111s | bother hitting the imp or just go face |
3118s | you need three damage |
3122s | he goes space right |
3124s | because then |
3124s | [Music] |
3126s | what can you |
3128s | oh there's only ever |
3130s | plus two plus two to these right |
3132s | in terms of |
3133s | either inking or foam or i guess |
3135s | bartender isn't even in the deck to make |
3137s | room for curses right |
3141s | wait there's |
3145s | well that's going to be one off if |
3147s | there's a wicked stab |
3148s | oh i guess if he |
3150s | pulls shadows |
3152s | yeah but if i guess if your dark shadows |
3154s | miss and naturally draw a wicked stab |
3156s | it's just not lethal |
3158s | well you can attack with the edwin |
3161s | and then step it it's done its 12 damage |
3164s | and so now you can create another chain |
3167s | of draws to sort of look for that extra |
3168s | damage yeah that is fair |
3176s | just wondered whether that like |
3181s | you know what i mean like yeah i think |
3184s | there's a tendency to be afraid of the |
3186s | damage but but as as you say you're |
3188s | taking it whether you're killing the |
3189s | minion or not so it's about the extra |
3191s | two |
3192s | from it being on board and |
3196s | that might be oh was that double oh oh |
3199s | you got it double two |
3202s | wow |
3202s | i thought this was going to be a very |
3205s | very quick 3-0 but |
3207s | thunder finally gets a win on the rogue |
3210s | thanks to good old edwin van cleef he's |
3212s | been grabbing rogue wins for years right |
3216s | now and it's uh going to continue into |
3218s | the future by the looks of things as |
3219s | well uh but yeah thunder a bit of a |
3221s | recovery moment there well needed |
3224s | honestly because one thing no one wants |
3226s | to do is go on stream at the start of |
3228s | their day and get destroyed 3-0 in about |
3231s | 15 minutes so yeah i'm glad for him he's |
3234s | got the win there it does mean he's got |
3236s | that shaymin and his own warlock left to |
3239s | go with i'm going to take a quick quick |
3241s | look i'll let you know when i see what |
3243s | he's going to actually queue up but yeah |
3245s | pretty crazy game and uh some |
3246s | interesting decisions for both players |
3248s | here |
3249s | yeah very razor's edge for both of them |
3252s | i think that was gonna be decided one |
3255s | way or the other the rogue really has no |
3257s | way of dealing with an imp king rafam |
3259s | board i think |
3260s | that would be one of the highest win |
3262s | rate cards in that matchup just because |
3264s | what do they do unless they have already |
3266s | one board right it's it's gonna come |
3268s | down to one of you winning on that turn |
3270s | or the other and i'm i'm kind of happy |
3272s | to see that it's an infused door of |
3274s | shadows that gets there i think that's |
3277s | probably my favorite road car that they |
3278s | printed in nathria uh it just has so |
3281s | many possibilities in terms of |
3283s | duplicating spells |
3285s | looks like we are going to be going into |
3287s | the warlock mirror but again not |
3289s | strictly a mirror we've got the curses |
3291s | and imps from love storm but from |
3293s | thunder going for more of a pure imp |
3296s | build and he does however have the |
3298s | tamzin in there uh the kale fast gigafin |
3301s | and atherius i do feel like more and |
3304s | more lists are leaning more towards this |
3306s | kind of uh |
3308s | not quite as one-dimensional list we saw |
3310s | like on day one right where the curve |
3312s | stopped at five or something and uh |
3315s | whereas this gives you options in the |
3317s | slightly late game if things keep it a |
3319s | little bit even gives you some cheese as |
3321s | well with the kael'thas and donathrius |
3323s | so interesting list uh who do you |
3325s | think's got the edge here do you think |
3327s | this sort of pure imps are going to be |
3328s | too strong for the imp and curse from |
3331s | love star |
3332s | so i think that the pure imps might have |
3334s | a little bit of an edge in the early |
3336s | game just because there are more minions |
3339s | to |
3340s | you know get that imp ticker going and |
3342s | maximizing the utility of file library |
3346s | it also has a little bit of healing in |
3348s | the form of not only denatures but |
3351s | molecular and these key cards here i |
3354s | think are a nice feature because |
3356s | molecular once you get it infused it |
3358s | costs zero so you can potentially do |
3360s | something like chao those murlocula |
3363s | denathrius or kale or kale those |
3365s | molecular gigafin another card that |
3368s | could swing things very heavily in |
3371s | [Music] |
3372s | thunder's favor against most warlocks |
3374s | but then the curses are able to deal |
3376s | with something like a gigafin so there |
3378s | might be a lot of back and forth in this |
3379s | match |
3380s | yeah actually one of the few decks in |
3382s | the meta right now that can just kill a |
3384s | gigafin in a |
3386s | variety of ways right a lot of decks |
3388s | just don't really have a guaranteed like |
3390s | yes i can |
3392s | deal that damage doesn't really happen |
3394s | too often without having tons of minions |
3396s | and like the odd removal on board anyway |
3398s | but |
3400s | thunder now gonna have to face down |
3402s | early imps love storm going first is a |
3404s | bit of a big deal just getting those |
3405s | imps down early |
3407s | although |
3409s | this two-five is also quite a big deal |
3411s | it's just sort of the best early game |
3413s | tool for controlling the board so yeah |
3416s | love storm just gonna go face here you |
3418s | know it does have the drawback of every |
3420s | time they swing they take two but |
3422s | usually that's well worth it to be able |
3424s | to just |
3425s | win the early game board and have this |
3427s | minion that's really never going to go |
3429s | down and trade with another minion every |
3432s | single time |
3433s | i don't yeah i was going to say i don't |
3435s | think you use the library there although |
3437s | uh |
3439s | it does leave it vulnerable to something |
3440s | like some of these versus the deal for |
3442s | damage |
3444s | yeah it's interesting as well thunder |
3445s | had to blink first by trading it looks |
3448s | like he's going to try and set up a big |
3450s | buff turn though |
3452s | with this wicked shipment and the second |
3454s | location is he going to spread the buffs |
3456s | i imagine so was he going to dump them |
3459s | all no i think at this point you're just |
3461s | looking to end the game quickly and say |
3463s | okay i've made you know a warlock edwin |
3467s | and you've got the wide board i've got |
3468s | the tall board let's see who gets there |
3470s | first |
3473s | okay so love storm knows he's almost |
3476s | certainly not dead next turn |
3479s | how can he best prepare here does he |
3481s | want an impending doom |
3484s | i believe he will right wants to get |
3486s | dragged below potentially |
3488s | yeah so just making some space in the |
3490s | hand first with this touch and then you |
3492s | can also you know maybe pick up another |
3494s | touch that is something you have the |
3496s | opponent doesn't is a bit of life steal |
3498s | that smothering starfish is going to be |
3501s | huge though |
3507s | a bit of a strange interaction that will |
3508s | happen is all of the damage taken |
3512s | by this you know original e25 when you |
3514s | silence it it will go back down to a 2-5 |
3518s | kind of a weird thing when you buff |
3519s | stuff beyond their normal health once it |
3522s | gets silenced the damage they've taken |
3524s | effectively is mitigated |
3526s | so it will still be a big thing to trade |
3528s | on board but it won't be |
3530s | you know as lethal |
3531s | yeah i think that's why i actually like |
3533s | this wicked shipment getting played even |
3534s | just for another two amps because it |
3536s | just gives luxdom knows he has the |
3538s | silence now so it gives him the |
3540s | potential power to either remove the |
3542s | board or keep pushing damage |
3544s | also |
3545s | reform is going to be getting there |
3547s | infused very quickly |
3549s | oh absolutely i mean i think that is |
3551s | kind of the threat of this many imps as |
3553s | well is that you can't just let them be |
3555s | because so many cards have been drawn by |
3557s | love storm that it's very likely he has |
3559s | his own library or you know in king |
3561s | rafam to take advantage of this wide |
3564s | board and thunder just doesn't have the |
3566s | tools to to deal with it really looking |
3568s | for a grimoire of sacrifice and it has |
3570s | not come up |
3575s | very huge though great start by thunder |
3577s | i do |
3579s | like the pure aggression play because |
3581s | the second that starfish isn't there |
3583s | this is still a rough turn for love |
3585s | storm but he did get hold of the |
3586s | starfish with the help of impending |
3589s | it's to silence all of this away |
3591s | suddenly only seven |
3593s | uh health on board and |
3597s | i think you have to clear right i think |
3600s | you can just kill the two five right |
3602s | doesn't have to clear the one three |
3604s | right you know the one three |
3606s | you've sort of gotten lucky in being |
3608s | able to silence a weights effect whereas |
3610s | the two five is an imp so you kind of |
3612s | need to deal with that uh maybe play |
3614s | your own librarian and |
3617s | not the flame imp because you're just |
3619s | too low |
3621s | these books are ruined yeah you've got |
3623s | to be very very afraid right of |
3626s | just |
3628s | even circle double and then the |
3630s | double buff |
3632s | i mean spicy |
3633s | with two library or two file libraries |
3636s | in play |
3638s | you're basically dead to circle every |
3641s | time |
3642s | so maybe you just play the flame imp and |
3644s | say they don't have it er you you're not |
3646s | that right because circle double would |
3649s | be plus eight and that's only nine |
3652s | oh yeah you're right oh if he empty |
3654s | would be dead |
3655s | to that but i think this is good |
3657s | actually just don't do anything just |
3659s | hold on and rely on either a farm or |
3662s | abyssal wave to uh sort of recover just |
3664s | a little bit |
3667s | drawing three |
3669s | that's one in |
3673s | just the one |
3675s | yeah i don't know that this is enough |
3676s | i'm honestly surprised we're still going |
3679s | face and not killing the two three |
3681s | because at this point you're fairly low |
3682s | yourself |
3686s | this is actually so close because now if |
3689s | this goes face |
3691s | yes love storms on two |
3694s | can you even deal with this |
3697s | i mean so reform uses |
3700s | full board oh my goodness |
3704s | wait i the curses aren't very high |
3706s | though right is that even |
3708s | enough |
3709s | oh we can't clear enough |
3713s | if you trade the starfish so that it |
3716s | dies |
3718s | and then well maybe you don't even need |
3719s | to do that but how much is imp king |
3721s | rafam |
3723s | gives |
3724s | plus two to the imp that we have in play |
3726s | it fills our board with |
3728s | a good number of imps |
3731s | love storm can't leave uh |
3733s | basically any minion on board this turn |
3736s | and there's no way even if he went tams |
3738s | in and then double drag below |
3741s | that wouldn't be enough |
3749s | yeah not even enough life |
3750s | there's just one too many minions like |
3754s | one of those one ones not being on the |
3756s | board would change everything here |
3759s | haven't heard of me yeah go go in for |
3762s | the curses but even if you clear the big |
3764s | minion |
3766s | not |
3767s | quite well there's still going to be two |
3769s | power left right yeah that's all i'm |
3771s | trying to work out here am i just stupid |
3773s | or is is love so i'm just doing this to |
3775s | just do it i guess i i think it's sort |
3777s | of like well there is nothing uh |
3779s | let me double check that i'm not |
3781s | mentally doing the math um by going |
3783s | through the motions but yeah it is not |
3786s | quite there so |
3787s | working our way towards that comeback |
3789s | right we're on game five |
3791s | yeah but this is the worry now actually |
3793s | because thunder done a great job to |
3795s | fight back now of course two very close |
3797s | games as well but he does now have the |
3800s | shaymin left i believe yeah going up |
3803s | against this warlock and this is where i |
3804s | think it gets a little bit scary |
3806s | actually because suddenly i think the |
3808s | curses get so much better the curse |
3811s | package versus the shaman than they do |
3813s | versus a lot of the other decks he's |
3814s | played against so far because again as |
3816s | we saw like there isn't really if you're |
3819s | playing dragged below against an implod |
3822s | killing a minion for three mana right |
3824s | that doesn't really sound like it |
3825s | achieves much and then abyssal wave |
3828s | again if on turn six they've not got |
3830s | something big on board well you were |
3831s | probably winning anyway whereas versus |
3834s | the shame and i think it's much more |
3835s | likely the curses kick in and the imps |
3837s | do a good enough job to sort of uh beat |
3839s | up on that elf total in general so this |
3842s | one and this next one sorry i feel much |
3844s | more winnable for love stop but by no |
3846s | means over for thunder |
3849s | yeah i mean one thing is that it's going |
3851s | to be very important for love storm to |
3853s | get that early damage in with the imps |
3855s | and the vile library because it is not |
3857s | the same curse lock as we saw yesterday |
3860s | where you are able to brand dark vein |
3862s | and take these curses up very quickly |
3864s | you know it's just sort of a regular |
3866s | curse pace uh as an added form of burst |
3870s | for the import lock so you're still |
3873s | looking to get that imp damage in early |
3876s | and then finish with the curses and if |
3878s | you're not able to get that ip damage in |
3879s | early it could be hard to get over the |
3882s | line with just curses with the way that |
3884s | this deck is built |
3886s | yeah we do take a look at thunder's list |
3888s | does have those wild poor caverns the |
3890s | usual suspects basically in shaman and |
3893s | we'll have to see if it pays off if then |
3895s | maybe these mukpools can pull out some |
3897s | crazy shenanigans like we saw from |
3899s | yesterday but again uh just a reminder |
3901s | if you join us a little bit late this is |
3902s | the first match on stream of round five |
3905s | even if uh these uh one of these well |
3907s | one of these players will lose but |
3908s | whichever player loses still got time to |
3911s | fight back right it's not like this is a |
3912s | winning in situation here or a losing |
3915s | out situation i guess um |
3917s | so the a loss here isn't the end of the |
3919s | world but of course after how much these |
3921s | two players have fought for this going |
3923s | all the way to game five a win would |
3925s | mean a lot putting them up at five zero |
3927s | going into round six |
3929s | yeah i think every round you can |
3931s | progress yourself keeping us zero losses |
3934s | it just makes you |
3936s | taste the the top plays |
3939s | like so much more and and uh and the |
3942s | losses are a little rough no matter what |
3943s | because then you've gotta win it in but |
3946s | uh yeah it's it's really a nail biter it |
3949s | looked like it was going to be a 3-0 but |
3951s | now this shaman might just be able to |
3954s | steal it away really |
3955s | doesn't have any |
3957s | terrible matchups and schooling is |
3959s | definitely one of the better things to |
3960s | have in the hand for dealing with the |
3962s | name warlock oh yeah that's exactly what |
3964s | you want to see came in just to the |
3966s | right time as the first draw of the game |
3968s | for thunder and now lovestorm already |
3971s | knows that if he plays any sort of small |
3974s | limps or leave some hips on board |
3976s | it's going to be difficult it's going to |
3978s | be easy sorry |
3979s | the thunder to clear up if wanted i |
3981s | actually really like |
3982s | that play with the location just make it |
3984s | a 5'4 hit them and now 2 piranha don't |
3988s | actually kill this |
3991s | yeah and this is something that uh from |
3993s | you know what we've seen from from devs |
3996s | on twitter this is not going to be |
3997s | sticking around this |
3999s | plus one plus one and then repeat for |
4001s | each imp it seems it's going to just |
4003s | be plus one plus one for each imp so uh |
4006s | with the change upcoming these will be |
4008s | able to kill that play uh sort of |
4011s | utilizing the power while it's there to |
4013s | get a 5'4 you know we'll at least get |
4015s | one swing in before it goes down |
4018s | yeah let's say thunder's going to commit |
4019s | the coin don't blame him here why not |
4021s | just kill it and the piranha's still |
4023s | doing their job one gets to stick around |
4025s | as well and still plenty of plays to |
4028s | follow up with has mukpools and ballner |
4030s | next turner or cookie if he so chooses |
4033s | so still got plenty of options for that |
4035s | turn three so even though it does lose |
4037s | the coin means you can't get command of |
4039s | neptulon out quite as early i think well |
4041s | worth it |
4043s | yeah and so forcing the coin out is you |
4046s | know no small thing uh it so happens |
4049s | that thunder has kind of the perfect |
4050s | curve follow-up but that isn't always |
4052s | the case and there can be some some |
4054s | pretty rough things that happen when |
4056s | your opponent |
4057s | is able to coin them out so still think |
4059s | it's worth it even if there wasn't a |
4061s | turn three follow-up i think uh love |
4063s | storm would have liked to have something |
4065s | like a fiendish circle to play on three |
4068s | kind of follow that up and take |
4069s | advantage but uh you know you take what |
4071s | you can get still working her way |
4073s | towards uh infusing this imp king reform |
4076s | where you just kind of pray the opponent |
4078s | doesn't have snowfall |
4080s | and go in |
4084s | yeah thunder now working out exactly |
4086s | what he wants to do he knows there's a |
4088s | potential location park next turn |
4093s | i'll just go for the ocarina on curve i |
4095s | wouldn't hate the three drop into |
4097s | potential milk pools though just to |
4098s | spend the money on mock pills now |
4101s | yeah getting it down you know the thing |
4102s | with locations is since they do have you |
4104s | know usually two or three uses the |
4107s | earlier you get them down the earlier |
4108s | you can start using them with that one |
4110s | cool down in between you know you want |
4112s | to try and get them down |
4114s | as fast as you can |
4116s | and just cleaning up as much as possible |
4117s | i think cookie is one of the best cards |
4120s | you can have against aggro i mean it's |
4122s | it's so much uh utility in terms of just |
4125s | clearing a little bit of minions getting |
4127s | in a little bit of lifesteal it really |
4130s | particularly is one of the few sources |
4131s | of lifesteal for the shaman helps you in |
4134s | some of these matchups against aggro |
4136s | decks yeah even though it doesn't like |
4138s | much it does start to add up love storm |
4141s | now has a few more imps to play for |
4143s | himself that's the librarian as well |
4147s | really |
4148s | think it's worth looking at the grimoire |
4152s | you know the grimoire doesn't do much i |
4154s | imagine you play the librarian just |
4156s | because you're trying to infuse this |
4158s | reform so more minions in play is kind |
4160s | of better for that |
4162s | yeah also knows there's no clean |
4164s | snowfall right so i'm not really getting |
4165s | punished for playing the extra minion |
4167s | ruined |
4171s | and then i imagine you just sort of |
4173s | library and go face try and |
4176s | lower that life total a little bit oh |
4178s | okay taking away the value traded |
4180s | potentially |
4182s | not too bad right because on the surface |
4184s | it means that thunder has to swing in |
4186s | with his weapon to kill this sevenfold |
4188s | with that piranha |
4191s | yeah and then you know it protects your |
4193s | 4-3 which is also a source of of high |
4196s | damage if they don't deal with it |
4198s | particularly on the turn that you play |
4200s | in king rafam |
4204s | i think it's always a question of like |
4206s | do you clear the imps themselves or do |
4208s | you clear the librarian right which one |
4210s | are you more afraid of |
4215s | yeah a little bit bigger thank you gonna |
4217s | go for |
4218s | value trades okay |
4221s | i'm a little surprised we're not |
4222s | preserving |
4224s | our life total a bit there uh taking the |
4227s | seven and leaving the librarian so i |
4230s | think this was |
4231s | sort of the nod with that value trade |
4233s | was like okay so this is most likely |
4236s | leave the library enough |
4237s | oh |
4238s | never mind what the one trade infused |
4241s | care in kangaroo |
4243s | i i forgot that we needed the last |
4245s | infuse so you do have to trade it in |
4248s | still a huge swing you know so many |
4251s | times you get one ones off this that |
4253s | become three threes this is actually one |
4255s | of the higher stat lines of kanger farms |
4258s | you can get |
4261s | oh simply just not a lot to do here |
4265s | well thunder might have to roll the dice |
4267s | on the evolve has a chance to go from |
4270s | five to six to seven |
4272s | well seven not the best |
4275s | seven |
4276s | instead |
4277s | yeah sevens are are really uh a gamble |
4281s | there are a lot of really bad sevens |
4283s | there are some quite good ones that |
4285s | people are always telling me ramornia i |
4286s | think is a very notable |
4288s | uh strong seven |
4290s | but uh i think on the whole they are not |
4294s | really worth it |
4301s | clears up a fair bit |
4307s | so we've got |
4309s | two of these to clear and then |
4312s | i guess the muck pools are getting down |
4314s | just to get down because it doesn't look |
4316s | like thunder is |
4317s | taking any of all chances it's a spongy |
4319s | amount of kind of situation isn't it |
4321s | yeah |
4323s | beefing up daenerys as well it's going |
4324s | to be a little bit of a while away |
4326s | though without a kale fast and now all |
4328s | the piranhas are used up |
4329s | means that there's nowhere |
4332s | and not another cheap way to do it right |
4334s | with uh kel'thas and then piranha in two |
4336s | directions |
4338s | well i think there's just not quite |
4340s | gonna be enough time here right because |
4344s | you go for the famished fool next turn |
4346s | maybe even boldner famished fool |
4349s | and because of this second library that |
4351s | love storm has once that comes down i |
4354s | don't think there's really any shot for |
4356s | thunder to make a recovery it has to be |
4358s | sort of a top deck snowfall to buy time |
4362s | i guess the main thing you're looking |
4363s | for is primordial waves |
4365s | possibilities |
4367s | hey even then though it's so tricky |
4369s | isn't it because this this library |
4371s | library is going to be really good and |
4373s | then the fact that there's silence for |
4375s | love storm means that even though he |
4377s | would remove stats |
4379s | ill he gets to attack yeah if there was |
4381s | no snowfall but even if everything's |
4383s | frozen for every reason he can't attack |
4386s | he can start just popping off with the |
4387s | curses |
4388s | that's what that's the sort of side |
4390s | benefit of this list right yeah exactly |
4393s | i think the prevalence of freezes is one |
4395s | of the reasons people have gone for |
4396s | those curses as you say and |
4399s | you're completely right that |
4401s | the silence on these doesn't set them to |
4403s | one ones it sets them to you know a |
4406s | couple of three threes and and three two |
4407s | so still a lot of power |
4409s | uh even if there's a freeze followed by |
4412s | silence |
4413s | it's under down to eleven |
4415s | two mana to play with and a couple of |
4418s | evolves it's a long shot he's gonna go |
4421s | for it |
4422s | again it's not good enough go again |
4424s | definitely not good enough the seventh |
4427s | strike again love storm after what |
4430s | looked like was going to be a very quick |
4431s | 3-0 had a bit of a struggle versus |
4434s | thunder as he started to fight back but |
4435s | in the end lovestorm takes it and goes |
4438s | 5-0 round five |
4440s | yeah i think it really is only a ten |
4443s | drop that can save you in a situation |
4445s | like that getting something like the |
4446s | stormborn general uh that eight eight |
4449s | rush deathrattle summon another eight |
4451s | eight rush maybe you take a value trade |
4452s | and evolve that again for another 10 |
4454s | right right that's the only way that a |
4456s | double muk pools would have saved you |
4458s | and just not enough cards in hand if |
4460s | even if a gnaw was picked up |
4462s | yeah really really tough one there |
4464s | thunder like i said did well to fight |
4466s | back some very strong games from his |
4468s | side as well but this just wasn't meant |
4470s | to be uh love storm got the benefit of |
4472s | having a strong |
4473s | opening |
4474s | and then had the curses as a backup that |
4476s | he actually didn't really need in the |
4478s | end but that's exactly how you want |
4480s | these kind of decks to go right if |
4482s | you're going to run kind of two packages |
4484s | you want your aggro package first and |
4486s | then the burn later and it paid off air |
4489s | pretty well for him there so love storm |
4491s | looking to be on track to maybe make it |
4493s | twin or the finals of a masters tour but |
4496s | that was our first match on stream for |
4498s | the day we've got plenty more coming up |
4499s | for the rest of the day and we have got |
4501s | more coverage from round one coming |
4503s | right up so don't go anywhere and we'll |
4505s | be right back |
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4528s | so |
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4569s | so |
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4586s | hmm |
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4626s | so |
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4677s | uh |
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4719s | doing today buddy |
4721s | good man uh still haunted by this image |
4724s | i think four five years later i |
4728s | remember it as if it was yesterday my |
4730s | second ever event being bustled into a |
4733s | small side room to take publicity |
4734s | pictures in a uh |
4737s | a size that i didn't think existed uh in |
4739s | china uh of clothing and uh |
4742s | was a little tight but yeah |
4745s | excited to custom hearthstone here at |
4746s | the masters tour as well moving swiftly |
4748s | on from that one uh with some of the |
4750s | other games filling in from round five |
4753s | as we're now reaching that halfway point |
4755s | right starting to see who's really in |
4757s | with a shot of uh clutching that top 16. |
4761s | that's right that's right uh we are |
4764s | starting to get to the point where you |
4766s | know the pack is going to separate |
4768s | itself into players that have a chance |
4770s | of qualifying for the top 16 and players |
4773s | that |
4774s | i don't know don't |
4776s | no there's not a creative way to say |
4778s | that |
4779s | they just don't nailed it uh nailed it |
4782s | uh we're gonna be uh jumping into |
4784s | uh some more round five matches we're |
4786s | gonna have chaos |
4788s | draniko |
4789s | versus wd g3 woods |
4793s | uh-huh |
4795s | they have long names long names um and |
4799s | you got to see the the little rogue list |
4801s | there from castronica |
4804s | yeah that's right starting to see more |
4806s | of it pop up uh |
4808s | as the uh |
4810s | the meta settles more and more i mean we |
4811s | talk about the meta settling it's not |
4813s | necessarily gonna uh continue to be so |
4816s | with the balance patch having been uh |
4819s | maybe not willingly but announced |
4821s | nonetheless uh by the uh hearthstone |
4823s | development team meaning that things are |
4824s | gonna be shaken up a little bit this |
4826s | deck that we see here may not continue |
4828s | to exist in the form that we currently |
4830s | see at the snowfall guardian even in a |
4832s | 40 card list is just such a key |
4834s | component to lock down these board-based |
4836s | strategies uh which now that it's not |
4838s | going to get bonus stats for freezing |
4841s | the entire board just be a baseline 5-5 |
4843s | i believe |
4844s | will definitely weaken the power of the |
4846s | deck i'm not sure if it kills it |
4848s | entirely maybe you just have to adapt to |
4850s | a uh a more dense board-based strategy |
4853s | rather than trying to go for pure freeze |
4855s | it'll be interesting to see because |
4857s | shaman is definitely for me uh right up |
4859s | there at the top of the tier list right |
4861s | now |
4862s | oh yeah um and uh it's also |
4867s | pretty high up there in win rate |
4869s | and you know it currently is fifth in |
4872s | overall deck win rate but that tells a |
4874s | little bit of a different story right it |
4876s | is by far the most banned deck in the |
4879s | format everybody knew that mostly |
4881s | everybody was going to be bringing |
4882s | control shaman |
4884s | um and so if you're leaving up control |
4886s | shaman that means you have a plan to |
4890s | deal with it |
4891s | and so the lineups that control shaman |
4894s | is going up against it are the decks |
4896s | that hey i don't mind |
4898s | leaving up control shaman despite it |
4899s | being quite obviously one of if not the |
4902s | strongest deck in the meta games so i |
4904s | feel like |
4905s | it having a 52-53 win rate |
4908s | is even better considering the fact that |
4912s | it was an expected bring in the field |
4915s | ej why do players do this |
4918s | ks dra necko it's just dragon man he's |
4922s | been a grand master before i know i've |
4924s | cast him in apac what it's dragging me |
4926s | no it's dragon man just dragon man |
4931s | no way second place in a masters tour |
4933s | already before and he's just completely |
4936s | rebranding he just changed his name i |
4939s | mean i know that the chinese players do |
4942s | it quite often but i haven't seen it so |
4944s | much in the uh the other regions but i |
4946s | don't know man why like 0 out of 10 for |
4949s | branding it's so hard to keep up with |
4951s | these players |
4958s | wait a second |
4964s | okay yeah yeah no uh so i i was |
4966s | wondering i i didn't scroll down far |
4968s | enough because i looked him up on |
4969s | donkey's website and he had a bunch of |
4971s | stats on it |
4972s | i was like wow competing a lot of |
4974s | masters tours but masters or undercity |
4976s | the uh match toward that he actually |
4978s | finished second in |
4980s | you actually have to scroll down to see |
4981s | and i just did a quick glance |
4983s | if i had seen that i would have known |
4984s | but i would have known |
4986s | i'm not dragon man i'm dragon man's twin |
4988s | brother chaos draniko |
4992s | i have the exact same backdrop and face |
4997s | identical twin brother and we play right |
4999s | next to each other |
5002s | well either way he's got himself a |
5004s | pretty nice starting hand joked aside |
5007s | with what will be |
5009s | uh |
5010s | not necessarily |
5012s | zero mana knolls but one man and alls is |
5014s | still more than good enough to swing |
5015s | back the board but none of the miracle |
5017s | cards right now the fact that he's going |
5018s | for a double vessel build is uh very |
5021s | interesting |
5022s | and in this instance could actually work |
5025s | out pretty well for him right he's got |
5026s | the full package of just prep vessel |
5028s | gone fishing to dredge up them pirates |
5030s | as well |
5032s | yeah i i think that this is a |
5035s | a pretty good approach to the deck |
5037s | because in a lot of matchups you really |
5039s | do just want the tempo like with your |
5041s | your graveyards you're just making small |
5043s | stealth things anyway why don't you just |
5044s | play a card that does that without |
5046s | having to |
5048s | get the graveyards down play a bunch of |
5050s | cards etc etc so |
5052s | um from woods aside here i think that |
5055s | just kind of going super wide on the |
5057s | board |
5058s | makes a lot of sense um obviously you |
5060s | know a lot of these little health |
5062s | minions gives targets for |
5064s | uh you know the |
5066s | serrated bone spike the |
5069s | tooths to try and get that card count up |
5072s | there on an individual turn |
5074s | but |
5075s | most of the time they're not going to be |
5077s | able to deal with everything yeah |
5078s | however |
5079s | yeah i mean this man's gonna be able to |
5081s | deal with most of this exactly this is |
5083s | the power of rogue right now this is |
5085s | really what is so |
5087s | broken about this class is like overall |
5090s | in the metagame whether you're playing |
5091s | this version with boats the lambie |
5092s | version that just runs the miracle plus |
5094s | my extra package |
5096s | you're not |
5098s | often gonna be beating the druids the |
5100s | shamans uh the the long control decks |
5103s | that can gain a lot of health because |
5104s | they just outlast you they have good |
5105s | removal but in any kind of board-based |
5108s | battle i do think rogue is the new king |
5110s | like shaman had that title |
5113s | last expansion i think when it was a 30 |
5115s | card list and just a little bit more |
5116s | consistent in that early game with the |
5118s | uh the clownfish the caverns the command |
5120s | of neptulon as well but just look at |
5122s | this like franco didn't have an |
5124s | especially good starting hand like it |
5126s | was fine but he just sat there for a few |
5129s | turns and then did this and now he's |
5130s | winning board and has an excellent mid |
5132s | game to back it up too |
5138s | oh okay |
5141s | guitar off the top get another |
5144s | insta-thea |
5147s | and then uh you know |
5150s | next turn steal whatever else is in the |
5152s | hand or just get your card back |
5156s | give me that |
5158s | is theater a character in in world of |
5160s | warcraft is it a reference to an |
5162s | established i don't think so |
5164s | i think so |
5165s | maybe i'm wrong though um because i |
5167s | didn't play shadowlands that much and |
5168s | this expansion was themed around |
5169s | shadowlands oh okay |
5171s | uh actually it is |
5174s | it is |
5175s | the atar is a deer in one of the soul |
5177s | binds for the ventier covenant |
5179s | oh |
5180s | okay sinful revan draft |
5183s | oh and sinful revenge well why didn't |
5185s | you say |
5186s | yeah |
5189s | yeah i didn't go to robin drive much |
5194s | yeah i'm not much i didn't visit the |
5195s | lands of raven dress |
5199s | nearly as often as an adventurer should |
5206s | ah in the depths of the shadowlands |
5210s | you know how to feel comfortable as a |
5211s | brit playing tj |
5213s | all right |
5214s | that was a raven dress accent |
5218s | but you know |
5220s | named after reverend dress shire here |
5225s | all right things looking a little scary |
5226s | now for janiko as uh the uh guardian uh |
5230s | stouffer guardian as we've talked about |
5232s | many times is the card that is just |
5234s | soloing this mid game for woods right |
5236s | now but a temporary band-aid for this |
5238s | solution in the snap freeze for dranko |
5240s | isn't going to win him the game of |
5242s | course uh but it's going to keep him in |
5244s | it for the moment as he is going aggro |
5246s | sending that tooth to the face when his |
5248s | opponent is at 38 is a very bold play |
5254s | he's doing the math |
5256s | all right |
5257s | 38 minus three that's 35 |
5260s | i got this |
5264s | ah that's gonna do it yeah |
5267s | and i thought he was winning that one |
5268s | like that that pop off turn was so |
5270s | strong |
5273s | yeah but |
5274s | [Music] |
5275s | snowball guardian like |
5278s | and 40 health um |
5280s | you know it |
5282s | when you play those decks with 30 health |
5284s | like snowfall guardian just hurts that |
5285s | much more because you have no |
5286s | opportunity to stabilize and |
5288s | when you when you go for these these uh |
5290s | pop-off turns with you know these types |
5293s | of rogue decks you're spending so many |
5295s | resources |
5296s | that there's not a great way for you to |
5298s | sort of come back in the game and you |
5300s | can't afford to just take multiple hits |
5302s | from a big snowball garden like that so |
5304s | as soon as the call came down easy there |
5305s | was just absolutely no chance even if |
5307s | his deck drew perfectly from that point |
5309s | right |
5309s | um |
5310s | it was didn't even have enough mana for |
5313s | like a scabs |
5314s | uh |
5316s | to be able to defend himself against |
5317s | that so |
5318s | uh woods just the mage left remaining |
5322s | just the mage let's take a peek at what |
5325s | he is playing in that one it looks to be |
5327s | 40 card |
5329s | uh |
5331s | gelatin mage but with double rune in |
5334s | there so it's kind of like a hybrid of |
5335s | big spell |
5337s | uh |
5338s | and the skeleton mage he's not running |
5340s | belinda obviously but he's got the |
5341s | parrots uh as we can see here to make it |
5343s | much more simple |
5345s | uh |
5345s | double broon oh no this is true |
5347s | cosmetics okay okay yeah you |
5349s | noob |
5352s | well this is an interesting list in its |
5353s | own right the double spell coiler i |
5355s | haven't seen that before |
5358s | uh yeah but |
5360s | it makes sense it makes sense yeah |
5363s | especially with 40 cards you just need |
5364s | to make fine like |
5367s | little slots that could potentially make |
5370s | you |
5370s | stronger in some cases i don't know |
5373s | i |
5374s | i feel like you just pick 30 cards and |
5375s | you just put in 10 other random cards |
5379s | so you get 40 health |
5383s | yeah |
5384s | i'm like i'm right on the brink with |
5386s | mage like every deck is i initially say |
5388s | there's no way you make this a 40 card |
5390s | version it just doesn't make sense like |
5391s | i said it was shaman i said it with |
5393s | hunter originally i don't know |
5395s | i just didn't see it working at all and |
5397s | mage i was thinking the same thing i |
5399s | still am personally on team 30 cards |
5401s | from age i would rather guarantee i get |
5404s | a stronger start find the location more |
5406s | frequently find my one drops find the |
5408s | wildfire find dawn grasp as well very |
5410s | importantly is a very very key card you |
5412s | want to hit in |
5414s | pretty much every single mid game and |
5415s | then find the frozen touches to round |
5417s | out the game at the end with a little |
5418s | bit more consistency |
5420s | but i will admit in like the mirror if |
5422s | both players are running a lot of burn |
5424s | the extra 10 health makes an enormous |
5426s | difference uh same deal with pretty much |
5429s | every version of rogue every version of |
5431s | hunter |
5432s | there are a lot of matchups where that |
5433s | 10 health is the difference between life |
5435s | and death |
5437s | would you rather have spell coilers or |
5441s | double rune of the arc major double |
5443s | power i mean come on |
5445s | yeah but there's no way to |
5447s | like ever make it cheaper |
5450s | what so you have to pay |
5452s | for 20 mana's worth of spell |
5455s | oh yeah okay |
5457s | you go coin brand double sorceress |
5461s | and then it's five mana |
5466s | oh look the combo's there |
5468s | unless they're both in your hand |
5471s | i think you have a pulse |
5473s | oh |
5474s | oh yeah that's true |
5476s | oh that's a good curve |
5478s | ah not the parrot |
5482s | all right |
5483s | 80 health |
5486s | in this match of |
5490s | it just hearthstone the top deck's the |
5491s | root again he gets the exact same |
5492s | starting hand |
5495s | the universe is like trust me mate |
5498s | you put these cards in your deck for a |
5499s | reason play them |
5503s | oh |
5505s | is he just gonna top deck the perfect |
5507s | card on curve every turn up until roon |
5509s | on eight i think he might |
5511s | all right what would be next sanctum |
5514s | nightclub victim frostwolf dungeoneer |
5516s | yeah any of the three drops cold case |
5519s | there's no five drops in the deck it's a |
5521s | disaster |
5523s | so here the arcane intellect into uh the |
5525s | second amplified snow flurry |
5530s | we saw it |
5536s | yeah kind of hard to predict right now |
5538s | actually like if |
5540s | woods can pick up a decent mid game just |
5542s | to see him through uh roon can obviously |
5544s | do a lot of work but if i had to wager i |
5546s | don't think roon is the game-winning |
5549s | card in this instance uh because |
5551s | straight up 40 health it's a lot less |
5553s | likely that you just burn them down with |
5556s | the rune jobs frozen touches fireballs |
5557s | pyroblasts whatever |
5559s | and also there's just dawn grasp on the |
5561s | other side which on its own can really |
5563s | really hurt your chances |
5565s | of finding all of that however dawngrass |
5568s | might be about to betray its alliance |
5571s | see |
5572s | he's no excuse |
5577s | is it coin |
5580s | i would say it's reckless apprentice |
5583s | coin rune into parrot |
5585s | oh death born okay trying to bust in |
5589s | uh |
5591s | well you're taking the deathborn so just |
5592s | give the parrot |
5602s | i think it's blizzard i think it's just |
5604s | the worst part in this instance |
5613s | coin brand spell coin |
5615s | that's reckless apprentice |
5620s | uh |
5620s | yeah |
5622s | it depends how much you care about |
5626s | belcoyla with |
5628s | drawn grasp i i think i agree it's not |
5631s | worth keeping enough but it it it can |
5632s | equal a huge amount of extra burst |
5635s | damage if you find a uh a wildfire or |
5637s | even just one honorable kill at any |
5639s | point along the way |
5641s | yeah don grass being in the hands |
5646s | it doesn't feel like there's uh enough |
5648s | other plays going on for a grade to be |
5651s | super relevant |
5653s | agreed now it gets trickier once again |
5656s | because you really really don't want to |
5658s | use the coin here but i really really |
5660s | don't want to use this reckless |
5662s | apprentice either |
5663s | but yeah i'm kind of coming down |
5665s | fast here as well yep |
5682s | this commander |
5683s | is gonna be |
5688s | in terms of raw value just absurd |
5691s | yeah but in terms of |
5692s | clunkiness |
5694s | also i'm serious yeah |
5697s | oh it didn't kill the parrot he would |
5698s | have got an extra skeleton if it killed |
5700s | the parrot |
5702s | oh yeah because it waits until deathborn |
5704s | waits until the entire whole exact |
5706s | resolve and then however many minions |
5708s | died after the board result |
5711s | yeah yeah |
5713s | which does mean there's four again back |
5714s | on the other side for dranko again or |
5718s | dragon man or whatever it doesn't matter |
5720s | it's roon time let's see what woods has |
5722s | got |
5725s | okay fine so far six |
5729s | that's good 11 |
5733s | 14 |
5735s | that's 14 completely neutral |
5743s | 17. i want to send with the counter |
5745s | spell |
5748s | exactly over drawing |
5753s | i mean that's okay it's a lot of mana it |
5756s | does cost an awful lot of mana doesn't |
5758s | it |
5759s | which is |
5760s | i mean when you have dinathrius in hand |
5762s | not necessarily a bad thing because |
5765s | even with just like 10 lifesteal that |
5767s | buys you a lot of time oh my god |
5770s | you can guess the card sure but |
5773s | you're not getting it |
5778s | this uh do you know because the |
5780s | the alchemist you know it has like the |
5782s | little active ability thing at the |
5784s | bottom like the it looks kind of like |
5785s | the spellburst symbol at the bottom of |
5787s | the card if you kill it before the end |
5789s | of uh before the end of your go do your |
5791s | opponents still get to discover or is it |
5793s | an active effect |
5795s | that's a |
5796s | good question i'm not sure i imagine no |
5800s | if it has the if it has that little |
5801s | effect yeah exactly but it's not the |
5803s | lightning bolt like lightning bolt means |
5805s | active effect i don't know what that |
5806s | little |
5808s | trip |
5809s | it looks like the spellburst |
5812s | it doesn't like spellburst yeah |
5814s | or |
5815s | oh my gosh okay |
5817s | let's go let's do some bugs then let's |
5819s | worry about the intricacies of |
5821s | hearthstone mechanics afterwards |
5829s | oh yeah |
5831s | he's just gonna die |
5839s | dude come on oh that's good |
5843s | something crazy is happening right now |
5846s | no that's number two that's from the |
5848s | brand oh that's from the brand we knew |
5850s | that was the guide so yeah |
5852s | oh |
5854s | that's it right with your score mana |
5857s | okay okay there we go |
5864s | okay not a bad turn all things |
5865s | considered |
5876s | [Music] |
5881s | eight eight so that's gonna be eight |
5883s | one off |
5887s | uh no it's gonna be awesome three off |
5889s | three on six so |
5891s | yeah it's awkward ordering |
5893s | yep |
5897s | he's got a pyroblast in hand uh |
5900s | he doesn't know it's not counter spell |
5901s | right now though right oh maybe he does |
5903s | he testifies the coin |
5905s | oh okay it's from a priest the turn that |
5907s | it was played so my bad is that it's uh |
5916s | huge swing turn though as i was talking |
5918s | about even with a big clunky hand sire |
5920s | denaturius can solve all those problems |
5923s | for you magic |
5925s | because right now it's only a six damage |
5928s | ping that's not getting honorable kill |
5930s | anytime soon |
5932s | that's a single drop |
5937s | he's only cast a deathborn right that's |
5939s | the only spell that he's actually cast |
5941s | because pyroblast this turn |
5944s | just to juice up the multicast who |
5945s | killed the dinatrius with pyrogenathrius |
5951s | instead so we have a level uh sorry a |
5953s | two damage ping |
5957s | i believe here |
5961s | me tusks won't stop shattering oh you |
5967s | [Music] |
5970s | oh no you had to use the first flame to |
5971s | kill off the uh |
5973s | the minion to get it i was looking if |
5974s | there was litha with like double second |
5976s | flame on your skeletons but |
5978s | it wasn't there |
5979s | yep |
5981s | by my calculations you need to chill out |
5984s | oh this is such a sad term |
5988s | well i mean this pig has six damage just |
5990s | does set up for lethal if these minions |
5992s | survive |
5995s | but this |
5996s | should this is lethal on the other side |
5998s | you |
5999s | us |
6000s | second flame |
6002s | or just reckless apprentice and then |
6003s | deathborn it's lethal a million ways |
6005s | yeah yeah |
6007s | but it was a lethal setup for |
6009s | uh dranko there um with |
6012s | the power block |
6014s | if |
6015s | like one of those minions had to rot but |
6017s | support his face yeah hard to believe |
6019s | that your opponent can't find a way to |
6020s | deal three damage with you know four |
6023s | skeletons on board so |
6025s | uh there you have it woods going to |
6026s | defeat |
6028s | dragon man aka trenecko |
6031s | 3-0 and move up to 5-0 uh draco move |
6035s | down to four and one but you know |
6038s | still a good start still in contention |
6040s | for that top six team usually it's |
6043s | uh two losses that that you take |
6046s | somewhere before the final round of play |
6048s | uh makes it so it's very difficult for |
6051s | you to make it to the top 16 because |
6052s | very few players that have two losses |
6054s | actually making it was like three |
6058s | three players |
6059s | yeah yeah |
6060s | it depends on the number of players and |
6063s | how the matchups even work how many |
6064s | individual players are etcetera etcetera |
6067s | so we shall see i hope for a good result |
6069s | for trineco you know he didn't have an |
6071s | especially great run in grand masters he |
6074s | didn't get on stream all that much uh |
6076s | and when he did you know there were a |
6077s | couple of uh shaky moments uh but you |
6079s | know second place in a masters tour |
6081s | alone i think solidifies him as a strong |
6084s | player and i want to see him |
6086s | show us what he's got in the rest of the |
6088s | tournament so hopefully he can win on |
6089s | out from here and uh represent uh hong |
6092s | kong and the asia pacific region in |
6094s | general in still fighting for that first |
6098s | masters tour victory i still believe |
6100s | that it's possible uh one day |
6103s | especially it's like looking down the uh |
6105s | the top players right now there's a lot |
6107s | of a lot of south korean players at the |
6109s | top of the leaderboard uh in terms of |
6111s | the score line which is really really |
6112s | cool to see |
6113s | because i was going on a |
6115s | long uh boring monologue yesterday i |
6118s | think it's time for south korea to come |
6120s | back on top in the apac region |
6123s | a lot of america's players up there as |
6124s | well |
6126s | uh really |
6128s | a two |
6129s | hey |
6130s | more than normal but you got monsanto |
6132s | right |
6136s | yeah if no one else got me i know |
6138s | monsanto got me |
6139s | yeah |
6141s | all right uh but speaking of that we |
6144s | actually do have uh in america's player |
6146s | where we're going to continue on |
6149s | with our coverage of round number five |
6152s | here as we uh wait for all the matches |
6154s | to finish and round number six to be |
6156s | ready so we're gonna jump into uh a |
6158s | match in progress of chewy |
6161s | versus gamer rvg uh chewie from sweden |
6166s | and gamer rpg from the old usma |
6169s | [Music] |
6170s | which is an often for forgot about |
6173s | region in competitive hearthstone |
6175s | subregion i guess you could call it |
6178s | not many players from the old us bay |
6180s | have a success recently despite it being |
6183s | one of the |
6185s | countries with the most representatives |
6187s | in defending play very early on |
6191s | yeah |
6193s | back in the day |
6194s | tough one |
6197s | the the old muzzy saiyan one-two punch |
6203s | firebase victory the 2014 hearthstone |
6205s | world championship is all that's keeping |
6207s | the moral fiber of america together |
6209s | right now you'd be |
6211s | a flame right now if he hadn't won that |
6214s | yeah i know |
6216s | oh okay two is gonna be playing wig |
6218s | priest |
6220s | and uh all right so we got one school |
6222s | teacher one and ninja hexan included |
6226s | um |
6228s | this is |
6229s | uh a cut |
6231s | chart of the naaru list |
6236s | oh no it's not just kidding it's still |
6238s | there |
6241s | good test there tj |
6243s | did i pause |
6247s | yeah it's an interesting list of honor |
6249s | now i i this is |
6252s | this is like quote-unquote standard |
6254s | i guess if you you want to call it that |
6256s | this is like the |
6257s | weak priest that has the largest sample |
6260s | size on |
6261s | uh |
6262s | on hs replay besides the partner crime |
6265s | like minus one teacher plus one partner |
6267s | crime |
6268s | and then this one is second |
6270s | [Music] |
6272s | even though you will make some |
6273s | convincing arguments for cutting the |
6275s | partnering crime i just cannot bring |
6277s | myself to do it it's just wrong i can't |
6280s | believe if if cutting uh |
6282s | crime is wrong i don't want to be right |
6284s | [Laughter] |
6286s | uh well you know |
6288s | there's a lot of different lists that |
6290s | are having success bunny hoppers |
6292s | currently four and one and he has two |
6293s | partners in crime i'm not four four of |
6296s | them actually |
6298s | i'm seeing double |
6299s | partners in crime |
6301s | yeah so um |
6303s | what do i know |
6305s | maybe partner crime is is just good i i |
6308s | feel like the core of the deck is what |
6310s | matters more |
6312s | than what you put in that four slot or |
6313s | sometimes three slot with a crush claw |
6316s | enforcer |
6317s | um and match-up dependent as well but uh |
6320s | game rbg going to be queuing up the big |
6322s | spell mage this is 30 card |
6325s | big spell mage |
6326s | a classic |
6328s | [Music] |
6331s | yeah you can't beat the uh the classics |
6334s | and i think for gamer rvg here he will |
6336s | be very happy that he's playing the 30 |
6337s | card version because |
6339s | aside from the |
6341s | obvious power spikes that we talk about |
6343s | very very frequently belinda and |
6345s | possibly barbaric sorceress although |
6347s | that's an interesting talking point in |
6348s | its own right there's a lot of early |
6350s | game cards that you really want to be |
6352s | hitting at very specific timings pelican |
6355s | on one very often starfish on turn three |
6358s | snow flurry on turn two just making sure |
6360s | you're hitting these key break points in |
6362s | mana allows you to keep up and actually |
6365s | play belinda without dying |
6367s | and right now i'd say he's doing |
6369s | decently well in these early game tests |
6371s | right he's got two drop far watch post |
6373s | probably even better uh and knight cloak |
6376s | sanctum to be able to protect that as |
6378s | well and then all he needs now is to |
6380s | just curve into some way to bulk out |
6382s | this mid game and gabriel gamer rvg is |
6386s | uh looking good |
6388s | god did i miss that bunk bed |
6391s | [Laughter] |
6394s | what was the uh the story who was on the |
6396s | top bunk fled's on the top book |
6403s | because in flint's background there's |
6404s | also a bunch |
6406s | that looks exactly like this bunk bed |
6409s | like you just piece it together |
6411s | so |
6412s | rumor has it |
6414s | when gamer rpg is playing his match |
6416s | fled's sleeping in the top bunk |
6420s | blessing some kind of teleporting dog |
6422s | bed as well |
6424s | [Music] |
6427s | oh a tempo pelagos behind the taunt |
6433s | is this worth a silence on its own |
6436s | doesn't feel like it |
6440s | um |
6441s | i think i feel like you could i wonder |
6445s | get away with playing a four here and |
6446s | then next turn maybe going like starfish |
6448s | plus a two |
6450s | uh between which fours i'm not sure i'd |
6452s | guess the atar just to take away the |
6454s | possibility of like a serpent weight |
6455s | just to get the serpent wig out right |
6457s | now yeah i like it you can |
6459s | take wig radiant handmaiden there's a |
6462s | lot of good outcomes |
6465s | yeah that's awakened for sure insta wig |
6468s | the parrot give the parrot |
6471s | by the ascended |
6475s | and uh one of the |
6477s | upsides of this board with starfish is |
6479s | that it lets the watch post attack |
6482s | hmm |
6489s | man chewie looks disinterested in this |
6491s | game of hearthstone i've got to be |
6493s | honest i don't think he wants to keep |
6495s | playing this one |
6497s | yeah i mean wig priest is one of those |
6499s | decks where |
6500s | no matter if you're winning or losing |
6502s | you're really only having fun for like |
6504s | 30 seconds |
6505s | yeah |
6507s | but that 30 seconds is so great |
6510s | it's a fleeting high yeah |
6514s | that you you just keep playing it over |
6516s | and over again you're like oh |
6517s | i'm going to get that 30 30 pellet goes |
6519s | this game |
6520s | [Laughter] |
6523s | see right there three seconds of fun |
6526s | yeah |
6526s | [Applause] |
6528s | type into the guides on discord as well |
6530s | i'm about to do something so sick |
6532s | [Laughter] |
6534s | never mind |
6536s | oh wow |
6537s | this reckless apprentice |
6539s | is juicy |
6542s | you don't even need to use a starfish |
6544s | oh with the wig as well you could go wig |
6546s | trade into pelicos |
6549s | what to do |
6551s | oh wait you don't need it because it |
6552s | damages it as well my bad yeah yeah you |
6554s | just put the wig on the apprentice yeah |
6557s | yeah |
6558s | that's what i meant by weak trade |
6563s | send it out order that's fine |
6569s | i wonder |
6572s | yeah i don't know i mean to be honest |
6574s | this hand doesn't move towards anything |
6576s | else that's especially more impressive |
6578s | than that right now there's no way to |
6580s | tutor out belinda barbara uh if you were |
6583s | to shoot her out one of the big spells |
6584s | with deep water it's like two turns away |
6586s | before you're even playing with it if |
6588s | it's like uh |
6590s | coin into |
6592s | the |
6593s | roon |
6594s | and so i'm just very happy here taking |
6596s | it nice and slow |
6607s | yeah i guess there's no point in putting |
6609s | the uh wig on a minion yet because you |
6611s | don't know what you want to |
6612s | trade into you don't know how the break |
6613s | points are going to work so |
6616s | i'm going to trade the coin for another |
6618s | coin with mailbox dancer spread out as |
6620s | much power on board as possible |
6624s | [Music] |
6626s | [Laughter] |
6638s | yeah that's a uh |
6640s | that's not what you want to be doing as |
6641s | weak nope |
6643s | nope nope |
6644s | no spells in hand so |
6647s | hey maiden is kind of stranded |
6654s | hey can you get a coin |
6664s | i would be fine with like trade off the |
6666s | board and then evoke a snow flurry set |
6669s | up for |
6670s | uh the ping |
6672s | uh for the following turn |
6675s | i would be fine with this as well you |
6677s | don't really need the snow flurry |
6678s | pre-loaded next turn because you'll have |
6680s | man as a player and you have the |
6681s | location coming online anyway |
6688s | okay |
6690s | gets a boon |
6697s | nothing really to boon here though |
6699s | um |
6700s | oh yeah |
6702s | man i play a seven drop |
6705s | ah just get straight into so easily on |
6707s | the board because of the pelican |
6710s | yeah you could target the opposing |
6712s | three four and take a three six but that |
6715s | just dies |
6716s | yeah |
6717s | you want this like looking for like |
6719s | shadow or devour |
6721s | uh to be able to |
6722s | uh but the scribe is |
6725s | by the pelicans but still you're looking |
6727s | for |
6728s | power oh |
6734s | this uh |
6737s | there might be a read that there's no |
6738s | spell in hand though |
6741s | well you can trade him with the coin |
6743s | right and and then |
6744s | oh yeah |
6745s | yeah but |
6747s | but then okay yeah you can go coin dump |
6750s | the coin yeah yeah |
6752s | okay |
6753s | but my question is interaction again |
6756s | does boon of the ascended actually cost |
6758s | three right now or is it just like |
6761s | saying it costs three for ui easiness |
6764s | sake because the aura is like the next |
6765s | spell you cast across one less not like |
6769s | all your spells in hand cost one less |
6771s | until you cast a spell i don't know |
6774s | apparently it does |
6777s | yeah didn't take the coin trade |
6781s | no good though |
6784s | it was a risky play wasn't it |
6786s | um well if |
6788s | let's see here |
6790s | if |
6791s | chewie casts the spell |
6794s | then the drink firearm that goes back up |
6796s | to four |
6797s | [Music] |
6800s | okay game rubbishy takes the win |
6803s | um |
6804s | i feel like that's a unless you get |
6807s | off to a really good start as the |
6809s | preset's a tough matchup |
6811s | um because you oh you're almost always |
6814s | going to have like a cheap spell in hand |
6816s | unless you go all in with your wigs like |
6818s | really yeah radial elemental |
6820s | and there's so much disruption in the |
6822s | early game from big spell mage uh |
6824s | assuming they hit anything right you |
6826s | still have to freeze with snow flurry |
6828s | plus nikola sanctum |
6830s | um |
6831s | and |
6832s | uh it like roon is very likely to at |
6835s | least disrupt your board and stop your |
6838s | win condition so barbaric sorceress is |
6840s | always going to destroy you |
6842s | um |
6843s | it's |
6844s | it's just tough uh you do have to get |
6847s | like that crazy early start that wasn't |
6848s | a terrible start |
6850s | chewie obviously didn't have the |
6853s | the stone cold nuts but |
6855s | having like wig in the opening with you |
6857s | know able to make a big pelagos pretty |
6860s | early on good stuff just a lot of times |
6862s | it's not enough |
6864s | against big spell page |
6866s | agreed but i think he's got himself a |
6868s | nice uh |
6870s | maybe a couple of matchups one matchup |
6871s | in particular against the druid |
6873s | i still think especially against the 40 |
6876s | card version as the wig priest you are |
6878s | owed a good match up by the universe you |
6881s | should not as the druid be drawing |
6883s | consistently enough ramp enough removal |
6886s | uh to be able to keep up with any kind |
6888s | of a decent wig pre-starting hand like |
6890s | one drop into buff kind of just ends it |
6892s | most of the time |
6894s | um |
6894s | in my experience as player madrid shaman |
6897s | though is a lot lot closer you have |
6900s | plenty of early game plays to be able to |
6902s | fight back on board both uh reactive and |
6905s | proactive uh in terms of uh knoll can be |
6909s | a very good reactive tool the schooling |
6911s | for piranhas can be a good reactive tool |
6913s | primordial wave is the ultimate trump |
6916s | card against wig priest that can really |
6918s | just shut them down |
6919s | and then even just proactively you have |
6921s | again the uh the |
6923s | sorry the clownfish all that goodness uh |
6926s | if you're playing it caverns command of |
6928s | neptune on so many cards that just lock |
6930s | down uh wig priests plays so i'm feeling |
6933s | good again for our boy rvg straight from |
6936s | the bottom bunk |
6938s | yeah this is usually the matchup uh when |
6940s | i'm playing the naga priest that |
6943s | i hate the most |
6945s | just because it feels like they always |
6946s | pull an answer from |
6948s | from somewhere |
6951s | uh to my board yes whether it's freeze |
6954s | or you know the uh |
6957s | the pools |
6959s | um it's it |
6961s | it's a very difficult matchup to |
6963s | navigate you just kind of have to make a |
6965s | giant board as early as possible and |
6968s | then |
6969s | hope that they don't have the ball |
6970s | effect i see you've got to get rid of it |
6973s | um another way you can approach it is by |
6976s | from chewie's perspective is by |
6978s | like |
6980s | dating out i guess |
6983s | uh the devolve effects |
6985s | and |
6986s | then going all in on a board but |
6989s | unless you have just so many cards early |
6992s | on it it just doesn't work right uh |
6996s | you have to be able to start off with |
6998s | like |
6998s | slither spear plus wigs |
7000s | keep rolling with wigs have double |
7001s | handmade and draw your whole deck and |
7003s | then just have a wealth of options but |
7005s | that rarely happens |
7008s | interesting to see gamer ravi g holding |
7010s | off on the |
7012s | uk pool uh in the starting hand because |
7015s | it kind of works like even in terms of |
7017s | manner that you're saving with gold |
7019s | shire knoll where |
7020s | you know you have an extra card in hound |
7022s | in hand to reduce it by one but you have |
7023s | to play it on the turn you're playing |
7024s | the null as well |
7026s | um but it does look like next turn if he |
7028s | wants it with the way all the mana works |
7030s | out he's got himself a rusher and a ten |
7033s | drop uh which |
7035s | i think we can agree priest is gonna |
7036s | struggle to deal with |
7038s | oh yeah |
7039s | oh yeah |
7043s | oh yeah |
7045s | that mug pool's real tough to deal with |
7046s | yeah |
7054s | yikes |
7057s | [Music] |
7060s | what's in the box |
7062s | hopefully not another knoll and gamer |
7065s | ovg should be good i mean even if it's |
7067s | another knoll he's still winning |
7070s | he's still good yeah cj we'll take it |
7074s | that's no no |
7083s | oh this is a sad game of thoughts then |
7094s | [Music] |
7096s | you need to take a long hard look in the |
7097s | mirror as the weak priest player and say |
7099s | is this really what i want with my life |
7111s | i mean the obvious play is fish fish but |
7113s | i i wonder if you even need to do that |
7115s | like is that the one where you lose |
7116s | where they have double |
7118s | devour in hand and they uh |
7122s | i don't know like radiant double devour |
7124s | boon exactly yeah |
7126s | um |
7129s | they have |
7131s | a giant taunt with two attack |
7134s | okay there's |
7136s | uh there's |
7137s | plays here right you have radiant |
7141s | devour |
7145s | recess double wig |
7149s | you could just go handmade yes |
7151s | handmaiden |
7153s | priestess bless handmaiden does that |
7155s | work |
7157s | bless handmaiden oh sorry |
7160s | yeah so you raid the elemental devour |
7163s | then you priestess so now you have four |
7165s | mana |
7166s | then you wig bless handmaiden yes yes |
7168s | yes yes yeah |
7170s | and then hope you find the second devour |
7174s | oh this gives one more mana if you bless |
7177s | first okay you just have less stats on |
7180s | your radio |
7181s | but i think that's fine and so yeah this |
7183s | is it right this is the out you find |
7185s | second devour and i think you have |
7188s | a chance |
7190s | wig |
7192s | devour oh okay okay |
7199s | this is not over keep the priestess |
7200s | alive |
7204s | play it dude play it what are you doing |
7206s | please |
7208s | okay |
7209s | yeah that's fine |
7210s | both of them are surviving the c giant |
7212s | right now |
7222s | though having the uh the double upgrade |
7224s | on the sea giant is a pretty big deal as |
7227s | well because there's a few rushes that |
7229s | you can hit |
7230s | uh on 10 in lockholla |
7233s | the new eight eight the death rattles |
7235s | into itself i can't remember the |
7237s | the name of it |
7238s | knoll as well like would not be terrible |
7241s | in this instance just to clear off |
7242s | another |
7258s | whoa |
7262s | ah snowfall guardian in hand oh yeah |
7268s | now we're talking |
7274s | so next turn you legos |
7276s | you can't play renathol right because |
7279s | you want to have the option of knoll |
7281s | plus |
7282s | mockpool |
7284s | yeah i |
7285s | i do agree with the tomb |
7301s | probably priestess yeah yeah |
7303s | you have enough spells to work with |
7305s | that's a lot of damage this is a lot |
7308s | dude |
7311s | you can even just play one on your |
7312s | pelagos as well and then you instantly |
7313s | have another massive minion |
7319s | drive first yeah you still love the mana |
7321s | boom |
7324s | and you could play boon as well because |
7326s | of |
7327s | the |
7329s | discount priestess |
7330s | yup |
7334s | because this would be three spells cast |
7336s | right now so priestess would |
7339s | go back up |
7341s | perfect |
7344s | it's actually perfect |
7348s | oh man whether or not it's going to win |
7349s | though is another question because gamer |
7352s | rbg obviously has lethal on board he |
7355s | just has no way right now to uh to get |
7357s | the damage facing honor i guess you can |
7358s | hold it but you know he's close the |
7360s | snowfall guardian alone can offer enough |
7362s | damage and there's the primordial wave |
7367s | oh my goodness |
7369s | so it's it's good but the |
7372s | uh boon is a ten drop |
7375s | uh which is stats okay as soon as it |
7378s | reaches ten like average 10 between |
7382s | health and |
7383s | attack at least this is a complete |
7385s | theory based on my boons okay um it it |
7388s | goes up to a 10 drop so it would go down |
7390s | to a 9. |
7392s | but this is going to be a wave |
7394s | and he's going to throw renathol out |
7395s | there first |
7397s | and that's the problem here is that if |
7398s | you go snowfall guardian into wave you |
7401s | can't attack face because it evolves |
7403s | your snowfall guardian into something |
7405s | much worse oh no it's |
7409s | no that's the smallest nine drop ever |
7414s | oh that's a disaster what does that two |
7416s | three do that doesn't draw your cards |
7418s | does it does it gain you health |
7421s | i can't even remember |
7425s | look it up |
7427s | i don't know what it's called |
7430s | 2-2 |
7431s | jade |
7432s | oh not the jade the the 2-3 i think that |
7435s | the two two gains plus one plus two |
7437s | floors reduces the cost of a nature |
7439s | spell in hand at the end of the turn |
7441s | okay it doesn't that's a florist |
7443s | the tutu i don't know i think it's just |
7445s | tavern tipper right from vg's it's the |
7447s | same thing |
7451s | ah |
7454s | yeah |
7455s | must do the same thing |
7457s | because we all know what that does |
7459s | tavern tipper |
7462s | yep |
7466s | i think if you have spare mana at the |
7468s | end of your go it gets plus one plus two |
7470s | okay |
7473s | [Music] |
7475s | yeah |
7477s | oh there we go |
7482s | good old muty yeah not right now i think |
7485s | this is a |
7486s | a nice easy null |
7488s | smash in and hope for a good ten drop |
7490s | yeah no |
7492s | trade pools and then you have snowfall |
7494s | guardian into devour which is |
7500s | should be enough |
7501s | i think that'll win |
7503s | yeah i don't think mutinous is a good |
7506s | play here because you know two of the |
7507s | cards in hand are wigs |
7511s | more bones to knock on and i'm pretty |
7514s | sure a minion would have been played |
7517s | by so |
7518s | okay another eight fine or is he going |
7521s | again he wants better |
7523s | ah you leave it as an eight here surely |
7525s | yeah |
7528s | like there's a couple of real you know |
7531s | insta winners as i said like lot coli |
7533s | anything with rush |
7535s | but i'm not taking the risk to hit and |
7537s | all i don't think |
7542s | this is why america's hasn't done |
7544s | anything in faster |
7547s | okay |
7565s | i'll face boon the 88 |
7567s | you |
7575s | hope you draw a naga next turn so you |
7577s | can go naga wig wig handmaiden |
7579s | yeah okay all right |
7584s | deviating |
7587s | trying to feel like these wigs |
7589s | yeah i just feel like too far away in |
7590s | health |
7592s | i mean he's trying to win back board |
7593s | right he's he's not going face |
7598s | he goes wig wig wig |
7602s | he can take a vt |
7606s | he loses everything it's completely all |
7608s | in at that point |
7611s | but i |
7612s | think he's kind of committed to that |
7614s | line now |
7616s | really okay |
7622s | wow okay |
7626s | he does get to keep double wiggin hand |
7628s | with this play even though he ends up |
7629s | with the worst board which i respect you |
7631s | know it does give you a lot more |
7632s | longevity if you get |
7635s | quite specific draws |
7638s | okay so that is a 5 8 |
7642s | 13 stats divided by 2 6 and a half i |
7645s | think that's a seven drop |
7647s | okay |
7648s | i like your theory |
7652s | and it doesn't just go off the attack or |
7654s | the health it's like some combination of |
7656s | the two here |
7661s | oh radiant that's not the one is it |
7667s | you just play it right now |
7669s | like the wigs matters |
7671s | yeah i guess and |
7673s | devour |
7678s | bless you |
7680s | i was doing an impression of chewie |
7682s | who's |
7684s | by name and nature apparently |
7689s | now that's branding that's what dragon |
7690s | man needs to realize call yourself |
7693s | chewie and you chew on stream |
7696s | it's simple but it works uh in the the |
7699s | dreamhack bg event there was a guy named |
7702s | popcorn |
7704s | literally the whole tournament he was |
7706s | eating popcorn |
7708s | it was like for hours |
7710s | [Music] |
7712s | like i don't even know how he had that |
7713s | much popcorn just hours |
7716s | every time this camera was on |
7718s | just popcorn non-stop like that is |
7721s | branding |
7722s | like chewing okay that's easy but a very |
7724s | specific thing you call yourself popcorn |
7727s | every time you appear on stream you have |
7728s | to be eating popcorn the entire time |
7731s | that's dedication |
7732s | what uh what hearthstone player would |
7734s | that be the worst for if you had to |
7737s | do whatever your name meant on cam |
7739s | every time you were on camera for |
7742s | branding |
7743s | uh |
7745s | love storm |
7746s | [Laughter] |
7752s | just an absolute storm of love on camera |
7754s | just instantly banned from hse's foot |
7761s | [Music] |
7767s | bunny hopper would be pretty hard too |
7769s | yeah that's true |
7770s | you have to get on like his uh |
7773s | i don't know what do you do bunny ops on |
7774s | his bicycle just do bunny hops |
7777s | yeah i mean to be fair no hands gamer |
7779s | has been doing it for years that's true |
7782s | that's good branding |
7783s | yeah |
7784s | [Music] |
7786s | language hacker i'd be talking in |
7787s | tongues the entire time |
7796s | i'm literally looking through the |
7798s | standings right now to see oh dead draw |
7801s | would be he wouldn't be nearly as good |
7808s | wet goose |
7809s | [Laughter] |
7813s | these are mean if he had to have a wet |
7815s | goose in his background the entire time |
7821s | attacking him |
7823s | okay |
7824s | uh game five uh final game of round |
7828s | number five |
7830s | between gamer g and chewie chewie trying |
7833s | to get |
7834s | this wig priest across and this is the |
7836s | matchup to do it with |
7838s | your gee i like that i like that hand uh |
7840s | it's bold |
7842s | yeah |
7843s | uh |
7845s | if he can get to nourish safely |
7850s | then |
7851s | [Music] |
7853s | okay chewie's got a pretty good start |
7854s | because we |
7856s | an early minion to be able to pop that |
7858s | wig on and another naga to reset boone |
7861s | is also fantastic |
7864s | take a look at the uh |
7868s | list for game ravi g because this hand |
7870s | is the kind of hand that really wants to |
7872s | be |
7873s | ahead going into turn four like akane |
7875s | can be such a clutch card in this match |
7878s | up if you just pick minion all of a |
7879s | sudden they can't renew their serpent |
7881s | wig uh and they really fall behind |
7883s | because they just want to play one |
7884s | minion a turn basically |
7886s | uh but if you're behind going into the |
7888s | akani it basically does nothing uh |
7891s | or apart from forcing them to trade but |
7894s | he's running very few of these early |
7895s | game cards that allow you to be ahead |
7897s | there's no living roots there's no |
7899s | um |
7900s | planted evidence uh no natural causes |
7904s | so realistically i think he's just |
7906s | expecting to go into turn four behind |
7908s | and then praying that ramp into |
7910s | alignment will be enough |
7917s | that's uh |
7919s | oh i think that's nothing actually i |
7920s | think |
7921s | nourish is the only two uh choose one in |
7923s | the deck it is yep |
7928s | druid's okay right with a hero power |
7933s | just bring it down to one health or is |
7936s | it too big now is it up to five |
7938s | it's up to five yeah because should we |
7940s | use a devour last turn to get rid of the |
7942s | jerry carpenter otherwise it would be |
7944s | good |
7945s | big difference i mean it's the only |
7946s | thing that you actually draw right now |
7948s | so you pull it out of your deck |
7957s | yeah it feels like scale is worth it |
7961s | just as to have off the top |
7964s | i don't think sure he's got a comeback |
7966s | mechanism |
7967s | yeah agrees |
7969s | i think the plane might be like pick |
7971s | druid of the reef and pray that you |
7973s | top deck druid of the reef as well next |
7976s | turn so that you can actually kill |
7977s | something |
7978s | um |
7979s | like you could pick widow bloom seeds |
7981s | obviously and then just play it next |
7982s | turn |
7983s | but that doesn't really help your curve |
7985s | all too much right now does it |
7989s | yeah interesting |
7990s | chewie knows three cards in hand |
7992s | probably those four cards cause there's |
7993s | a card kept |
7997s | that could be just be the nourish but i |
7999s | don't think you wouldn't keep nourish |
8000s | and jerry carpenter in them |
8003s | yeah i mean it could be guff i think |
8005s | it's the other big one right that you're |
8006s | expecting to come down |
8011s | uh but no such luck for gamer rpg as it |
8013s | pretty much just has to be blade master |
8015s | akani |
8019s | weirdly enough it's probably spell here |
8021s | even though i usually prefer minion |
8023s | verse naga priest as i said just because |
8025s | it means they can't go |
8029s | up and wig uh to be able to kill it off |
8032s | instantly |
8033s | and it denies boon as well on this term |
8038s | but maybe they expect that's hugo minion |
8040s | so if they just like play school teacher |
8043s | then uh or play nadjak |
8047s | then you catch them out with that it's a |
8048s | lot of mind games here |
8050s | you just close your eyes pull your mouse |
8052s | on a circle |
8055s | if you don't know then there's no way |
8057s | your opponent could know |
8060s | i like it let's go |
8070s | boy picks minion |
8073s | i'm pretty sure that's the uh that's the |
8075s | bluff pick right like that's the |
8077s | the one you'll they wouldn't expect you |
8079s | to go for |
8081s | but then obviously if they think you're |
8082s | gonna try to double bluff them they |
8084s | might triple bluff you and end up back |
8086s | on the correct result it's so difficult |
8087s | to guess |
8089s | but as we can see a single wig here |
8091s | uh just puts chewie back miles in the |
8093s | lead yep |
8098s | and i believe this handmaiden would be |
8100s | active |
8102s | uh after this wig |
8106s | coin devour and wig |
8111s | no way |
8113s | that's such a sick play from rvg |
8121s | okay and all of a sudden it's not |
8124s | that bad for rvg right he's got |
8127s | ramp into either alignment scale or |
8130s | miracle growth depending on what the |
8131s | situation calls for |
8137s | looking okay for him |
8151s | but a |
8153s | radiant elemental okay this didn't make |
8155s | the hand made now it doesn't activate |
8157s | wow how it must be |
8159s | yeah i think i thought that was |
8161s | because it was on coin so i thought it |
8163s | was coin devour plus |
8165s | the first wig that went on the scribe |
8167s | but i guess the handmaid was drawn after |
8169s | that yeah i think so |
8171s | uh after the initial coin so |
8175s | all right the big question here right |
8177s | the card kept in the mulligan |
8179s | can we get away with it how bad can |
8181s | things go wrong |
8183s | uh |
8184s | if you put a wig priest down to one |
8185s | manner what disasters can they pull off |
8194s | yeah i guess that's about it right like |
8196s | boone would be |
8198s | boone would be pretty bad actually if |
8200s | you go alignment and they just play boom |
8202s | for one mana |
8204s | you're in trouble |
8205s | yeah |
8206s | i mean i'd be too worried to miracle |
8208s | growth here because |
8212s | yeah |
8213s | uh i don't know |
8214s | you get there'd be value trades on board |
8217s | you wouldn't have alignment down |
8219s | he's able to just build up the board and |
8221s | get through the miracle growth taunt |
8223s | i think it is just alignment |
8225s | you have ramp |
8227s | be able to get that mana back up you can |
8229s | so you can alignment this turn then |
8232s | i think that was an alignment man i |
8233s | think i would have slammed that there |
8235s | like i appreciate it's bad if there's |
8237s | radiant or boon |
8239s | but |
8240s | you had both halves of nourish scale as |
8243s | well |
8245s | i think you could have clutched that one |
8246s | back |
8248s | yeah look at the cards that were drawn |
8249s | if you could have just gone devour or |
8251s | like brand of our even if it's not |
8253s | activated like non-infused you double |
8255s | the stats you steal and then just kind |
8257s | of kill them next turn |
8264s | alignment and then |
8266s | right not jamming on eight with ramp in |
8269s | hand and not being dead i don't know |
8271s | like this is a very expected board to |
8273s | see around turn five or six right this |
8275s | is not massively high rolly versus druid |
8279s | yeah |
8280s | so it is possible that |
8282s | um game rpgs was trying to like dig for |
8286s | lady anacondra right with uh |
8289s | uh miracle growth first but yeah like |
8291s | this pla this play was still possible |
8293s | next turn |
8294s | right you go celestial alignment then |
8297s | you nourish for crystals and miracle |
8298s | growth with the crystals that you have |
8300s | yeah |
8302s | um |
8315s | right i see what you're saying what he's |
8317s | going for here in terms of |
8319s | uh |
8320s | you make an a8 uh you you might draw |
8323s | some better cards in anacondra but for |
8325s | me the the real clincher here is all the |
8327s | things that are bad for you if you do |
8329s | alignment are still just as bad for you |
8331s | if you don't alignment right like if you |
8333s | don't play it here and they go boon of |
8335s | the ascended or they have a radiant |
8337s | elemental and play like five weeks on |
8339s | that turn you're losing the game anyway |
8340s | you're not going to be able to beat that |
8342s | whereas i think the celestial alignment |
8344s | beats a lot of other plays because you |
8346s | just pop off massively next turn |
8349s | yeah |
8349s | and what this does with the miracle |
8351s | growth it means you're never playing |
8354s | alignment |
8355s | [Music] |
8357s | unless you like |
8359s | guff survive get enough mana crystals |
8362s | and then play |
8364s | anacondra and |
8366s | the same turrets |
8368s | it's coming out so |
8369s | uh this play is not |
8373s | it's not gonna be able to clear the |
8374s | board but it will be able to clean up a |
8376s | lot the two bigger minions right you |
8379s | could go uh earthen scales uh to clean |
8381s | up the five three and then trade the |
8382s | rest of the scribe |
8384s | and you are |
8385s | uh infusing the devour the next turn |
8388s | oh because he fuses the bauer he's going |
8391s | to trade off but this does mean that |
8392s | he's leaving a bigger minion on board so |
8394s | it's more likely to be lethal on the |
8396s | backswing |
8397s | uh for chewie |
8400s | oh my god say a lot |
8403s | it could just be a boon turn or it could |
8404s | be a |
8407s | oh this gotta be uh |
8409s | handmaded into what priestess and |
8411s | radiant elemental is like |
8416s | the draw |
8418s | i can just see this game branching out |
8420s | before me all the possible lines like |
8422s | it's going to be a big insatiable |
8424s | devourer a big nadjak a big starfish to |
8427s | to deal with that as well it just goes |
8429s | back and forth back and forth and i |
8430s | think right now |
8433s | i'm kind of still favoring rpg right |
8436s | like he just needs |
8437s | again if he was in alignment form it |
8439s | would be so so much easier here but |
8441s | without guff and alignment |
8443s | if the pan now is devourer nadjak |
8446s | starfish at that point it's really close |
8449s | and a good draw like uh onixia off the |
8452s | top for rvg could just clutch it out |
8454s | maybe even just scale of the next year |
8456s | would get the job done but unless |
8457s | there's a big top deck in the next |
8459s | couple turns i |
8460s | i don't know maybe chewie just about |
8462s | gets there with just the raw stats of |
8464s | minions on board even if they're |
8466s | silenced by the starfish |
8470s | it's really close why is the cathedral |
8473s | there definitely supposed to be in the |
8475s | middle there though yeah |
8477s | or wait maybe maybe it's bait it's bait |
8487s | he was just like oh i hope nobody eats |
8489s | my scribe |
8490s | [Laughter] |
8494s | smothering mustard on it oh no |
8496s | don't devour it |
8516s | and now gabriel reggie's probably |
8517s | thinking the same thing |
8519s | he put the cathedral in the middle |
8522s | it makes no sense though like |
8526s | you're still just supposed to do it if |
8527s | you're beating me |
8531s | i mean the the thing you're thinking |
8532s | here i think it's that obviously but |
8534s | it's also just do we go starfish by |
8535s | scale here is the other question because |
8537s | that does clear the board it puts you |
8539s | ahead |
8540s | um |
8541s | it leaves a lot of one health minions on |
8542s | the board which is very scary because of |
8544s | devour you never really want to do that |
8546s | against priests and so i do favor just |
8548s | going for this line here because |
8550s | because he gets a bigger boon he gets |
8552s | the boon as well he gets a bigger food |
8555s | and even the starfish comes down the |
8556s | boots take the same stats and just |
8559s | oh that's that was 100 intentional |
8561s | because this top wait no he didn't play |
8563s | around it because boone's responds to |
8565s | the right okay |
8569s | can you kill nadjak |
8572s | there's nothing in the deck that does it |
8573s | right park panther needs to attack |
8575s | through |
8577s | again he's not |
8578s | it doesn't matter he's just dead |
8581s | he's gonna be there no matter what i |
8583s | mean it would be like kill nadjak draw |
8585s | earthen scales right that's that's the |
8587s | way you survive but ah |
8591s | it's not there |
8594s | where's uh where's starfire when you |
8596s | need it starfire into draw earthen |
8598s | scales whoo |
8609s | theater something |
8613s | anything's anything that saves you |
8614s | though |
8615s | they played both boons so you couldn't |
8617s | get another boon of yourself |
8639s | what a sick game |
8641s | yeah that was uh |
8644s | very bizarre i i |
8648s | still think that game would have looked |
8649s | a lot differently maybe would have had |
8651s | the same result |
8652s | um if uh celestial line was put on it |
8655s | instead of miracle growth yeah |
8657s | um |
8659s | if we want to be results oriented |
8660s | obviously there was no raiden elemental |
8662s | picked up in like the next eight cards |
8664s | so uh there there would have been not |
8666s | even a chance for chewie to really |
8668s | capitalize on any board |
8671s | um |
8672s | so i think that's the big turn to look |
8675s | at in that game as something that gamer |
8677s | rbg could have done differently |
8680s | uh but it is a tough matchup right |
8682s | there's a lot of things to to consider |
8685s | you never really can fully comprehend |
8687s | the reach |
8689s | that the |
8691s | uh naga priest is capable of yeah |
8694s | a single minion sticking on the board |
8696s | could almost always be lethal if there's |
8699s | double wig in hand |
8700s | because of great elemental |
8703s | uh and priestess you can have infinite |
8705s | man on a turn and then end with a bless |
8707s | right that can always happen |
8710s | but you have to think like like you said |
8713s | those turns |
8714s | are going to kill you whether you're |
8715s | alignment or not it's just alignment |
8717s | makes that |
8718s | happen slower or uh |
8722s | you take more damage now but your |
8724s | opponent's potential is a lot less over |
8726s | the next three or four turns |
8728s | if it just feels like you give yourself |
8730s | more time to work with and |
8732s | make the cards in your hand actually |
8733s | more worthwhile right uh his hand it was |
8736s | incredibly expensive bran was completely |
8739s | useless without alignment being played |
8741s | in that deck unless like kale thoughts |
8742s | was picked up but |
8744s | come on |
8745s | um |
8747s | not even a kale toss on the deck because |
8748s | it's a lineman so lady anaconda is the |
8750s | only six |
8751s | but |
8752s | alas |
8754s | alas it's just one of those turns where |
8755s | every player who sees it will have a |
8757s | strong opinion one way or the other you |
8758s | can argue back and forth forever i think |
8761s | it was probably an alignment there but |
8763s | he could come up with a million reasons |
8764s | why that's wrong i could come up with a |
8766s | million reasons why it's right it's just |
8768s | so so difficult to work through he made |
8770s | his choice and in this instance he got |
8772s | booned |
8776s | the old devour bait gets him every time |
8780s | oldest trick in the book |
8782s | yep and now chewie is going to go to all |
8784s | his friends yeah that was intentional i |
8785s | wanted a bigger boon |
8788s | never play around never play around but |
8790s | uh that does conclude round five of |
8793s | swiss uh here at the mattress tour so we |
8796s | are gonna go to a break but when we come |
8797s | back we're going to kick off round six |
8799s | only three swiss rounds left remaining |
8802s | before uh we cut to that top 16 and look |
8804s | forward to our championship sunday uh so |
8806s | don't go anywhere plenty more |
8807s | hearthstone actually to come right after |
8809s | this |
8819s | [Music] |
8833s | um |
8837s | [Music] |
8863s | [Applause] |
8865s | [Music] |
8897s | so |
8904s | [Music] |
8909s | [Music] |
8933s | [Applause] |
8941s | [Music] |
8954s | so |
8959s | [Music] |
9007s | hello everyone welcome back to the |
9009s | masters tour castle nathria we have |
9011s | round five ready to go i'm raven and |
9013s | joining me for this one is larinda for |
9015s | his first time on stream today uh |
9017s | welcome lorinda how's it going so far |
9019s | yeah going good again just checking |
9021s | through how things are going in this |
9022s | tournament but also keeping an eye on |
9023s | the cast at the same time and it looks |
9026s | like the vogue deck is doing pretty well |
9028s | i haven't seen the stats exactly but it |
9030s | looks like the people who brought it |
9032s | have had an advantage over those who did |
9033s | not so well done to lambie series and |
9035s | the people that he let in on this yeah |
9038s | again i i've not looked at the sort of |
9040s | detailed stats but for me even just at a |
9042s | glance it feels like if that's your |
9044s | fourth deck then it's a pretty good one |
9046s | so i think it's fine uh but here though |
9048s | we are looking at mati and mero both |
9050s | players who aren't bringing rogue here |
9053s | and they're very similar if not |
9054s | identical classes both players on the |
9057s | naga priest which said that you know i |
9060s | uh i've been liking a lot recently and |
9062s | then also just a bit of a mixture |
9064s | between the the two warlocks the two |
9066s | shermans and mages of course so uh some |
9069s | differences mainly larinda in the bands |
9072s | in the band yeah the shaman has been |
9074s | banned for mero and uh mati's warlock |
9077s | has been banned but there's some |
9078s | differences in the builds as well |
9080s | uh mati's warlock was |
9082s | the the hybrid with the curses and the |
9084s | imps which is interesting to see that |
9086s | band because it comes across as quite |
9088s | inconsistent sometimes |
9090s | um but also matty's mage i've gone with |
9093s | ping mage it's a very aggressive mage |
9095s | build but it's basically got the ping |
9096s | mage components in there so i've gone |
9098s | with calling it that there's his record |
9100s | and i don't think that says it all he's |
9102s | kind of gone missing the last two or |
9104s | three tournaments but towards the end of |
9106s | last year he was one of the players we |
9107s | were talking about as |
9109s | this person will get a very very good |
9112s | result very soon |
9114s | but that result has yet to really |
9116s | materialize for matty but very solid |
9118s | play on his day yeah he was one of those |
9120s | players that his name kept popping up |
9122s | right in masters tours right we kept |
9124s | seeing him appear i feel like we've cast |
9126s | him a fair amount of times as well uh so |
9128s | yeah looking forward to seeing we can do |
9130s | this time around he is going to be on |
9131s | this mage you talked about here uh which |
9134s | again it does have cold case it does |
9136s | have the um |
9138s | you know like the obviously the location |
9140s | as well because i think that's just a |
9141s | given in pretty much any mage deck right |
9143s | now it's so strong but it's not focused |
9146s | on all that late game stuff with the |
9147s | skeletons as you mentioned it really is |
9150s | more focused on the pings and also the |
9152s | the nice little combo and not a combo |
9154s | with the two cards but solid alibi and |
9157s | frozen touch frozen touch a card i like |
9159s | a lot and solid alibi especially in |
9161s | mirrors can really change up the way the |
9164s | game works it works almost like an ice |
9167s | block but in this instance you're |
9170s | playing an ice block in your deck when |
9171s | most of the mages like don't choose to |
9174s | play it right so it's actually a |
9176s | potential huge advantage |
9178s | yeah i haven't i can't claim to have |
9179s | seen this build in action yet i must |
9181s | admit but |
9182s | it looks to me like you just race them |
9184s | like make my things and mess around with |
9186s | you while i'm just hitting you with |
9188s | stuff um it's even gone as far as to |
9190s | cook you know not include cars like |
9192s | death born and so on so yeah really is |
9194s | going to try and go fast and at you and |
9197s | mero's deck on the other hand is far |
9199s | more regular version of what we call in |
9202s | spooky mage |
9203s | um but with cards like murloc homes with |
9205s | kel'thus it's going to be a lot slower |
9207s | out of the blocks |
9208s | yeah that's the thing i think with matty |
9210s | he's removed all the sort of conditional |
9213s | effects right like uh deathborne and |
9216s | cards like that and has gone for more |
9218s | just i will damage you and again 40 |
9221s | cards so 40 health for the spooky mage |
9223s | for mero but as you said a little bit |
9225s | less consistent a little bit slower kind |
9227s | of trundles along a little bit sometimes |
9229s | of course you get the draw that just |
9231s | pops off you have to kill fast and then |
9233s | you do the big things |
9235s | but without that i i am leaning towards |
9237s | matty for this mage mirror right now |
9239s | yeah that's what my instincts say as |
9241s | well um also has that several which is |
9243s | going to reload stuff so you can do it |
9246s | all again and if members waiting to get |
9248s | to turn six to start to stabilize that |
9250s | might be too late i think this might |
9251s | come out really quick from matty or i |
9253s | might just prove once again like a bit |
9255s | of an idiot find out very soon that's |
9258s | the thing right if matty just gets hold |
9260s | of just some of the tools required for |
9262s | the soft pink package it's kind of hard |
9265s | to stop right with mage because |
9268s | there's no real healing there's some arm |
9270s | again of course fine but if your |
9272s | opponent's just relentlessly pinging you |
9274s | in the face and atherius i guess now it |
9276s | mero's head |
9278s | isn't there to pop off and and heal then |
9281s | yeah there is going to be trouble but |
9282s | let's see how it goes as we get into |
9284s | game number one and also preemptively |
9287s | slight apologies about the dogs you can |
9288s | probably hear we've just had two turn up |
9290s | at the house so they'll be loud for |
9292s | about two minutes and then they'll be |
9293s | quiet knocked on the door so hi is this |
9296s | this uh the house um no turned up for a |
9298s | visit coming in yeah |
9300s | um that low curve of matthews didn't |
9302s | allow him to keep magister dawngrass |
9304s | here which is one of the lovely things |
9306s | when you've got a deck full of things |
9307s | that top out at four is you know you're |
9309s | gonna draw okay so you can keep your |
9311s | seven drop and move on with your life |
9312s | um obviously ripping the theater off the |
9315s | top as well theater this is where you go |
9317s | to watch a movie okay |
9318s | um |
9319s | it's going to allow him to |
9321s | steal some of the opposing cards we're |
9323s | talking about murrow's going to hang on |
9325s | till turn six if he gets theode he might |
9328s | lose his ability to do nice things to |
9330s | the deck that's already curved out so |
9333s | matty's still in a decent spot |
9336s | yeah it's looking pretty good and |
9338s | yeah it's interesting right now that you |
9339s | mentioned it i didn't really |
9341s | click that apart from modresh and don |
9343s | grasp the deck does just curve out at |
9345s | four |
9345s | very excited to see how this deck |
9347s | continues to do because it does look |
9349s | like more my kind of mage just get him |
9352s | although i will confess mero is playing |
9354s | the strictly correct portrait here |
9357s | okay i can go with that yeah if raven |
9359s | was ever going to play a deck that |
9360s | wasn't a face hunter deck this is it |
9362s | this is just a face major it looks very |
9364s | much like it it's the hunter |
9366s | morphed into a mage |
9372s | and this is what the deck's doing it's |
9373s | just maximum you know just the instant |
9375s | ping freeze there he spent a bit of time |
9377s | wondering if there's anything else he |
9378s | wants to please like no this is this is |
9379s | for more damage if that's frozen |
9382s | use my minions to hit you as i'm |
9383s | interested to see how much stock he pays |
9386s | to this potential value trade on the |
9388s | board and that sort of thing and how |
9389s | much he just goes i'm going to hit you |
9390s | because 40 is a lot of damage to do |
9392s | we've talked about it a lot already yeah |
9394s | i think the only thing he's gonna |
9396s | consider is the fact that his opponent |
9398s | does run deathborn and there's no need |
9400s | to like give your opponent a great |
9402s | deathborn if you don't have to right |
9405s | yeah i think that's the only thing to |
9406s | bear in mind like i'm a fan of face |
9408s | damage as much as the next person but if |
9410s | you give your opponent a really good |
9412s | turn six when you just didn't really |
9414s | have to |
9415s | i think that's what matty doesn't need |
9416s | to keep an eye out faster |
9423s | so that he's at the stage now where he's |
9425s | got to start planning ahead for his |
9427s | magister how much |
9429s | the draw how much damage does he want in |
9431s | there and how much does he just want to |
9432s | still be putting more minions on the |
9433s | board this is going to get awkward |
9434s | balancing your spells and your minions |
9436s | because it's where it diverges from face |
9438s | hunter right face until you play all |
9440s | your minions and you hit him with spells |
9442s | and that's kind of the formula |
9444s | this |
9445s | you sort of want to keep it coming in |
9446s | between a bit as well i think matty can |
9449s | start with theotar and then adjust from |
9452s | there |
9454s | depending on what he gets offered right |
9456s | i think that's where where i would look |
9458s | right now because he still has theoton |
9460s | and the one drop |
9461s | which will currently reduce arcane |
9463s | intellectual two |
9465s | yeah |
9466s | we have the advantage of being able to |
9467s | see murray's hand but he hasn't done |
9469s | much so matty can read that |
9471s | there's a good chance there's some of |
9472s | those sixes and sevens hanging around in |
9474s | there and if he hits this deathborn |
9476s | things could get |
9477s | very tasty for him |
9483s | [Music] |
9494s | lucky at least he's gonna do some trades |
9496s | if he's putting one in he's putting two |
9498s | in yeah |
9500s | you like trading away the third i think |
9502s | he he's got the goods right like he |
9504s | doesn't need to give his opponent |
9506s | something huge here he's going to leave |
9508s | it up so that's going to be a decent |
9510s | death bomb here for merrow |
9513s | i think they just don't grasp just in |
9515s | hand i think he could have gotten even i |
9517s | think you can see there he's not really |
9519s | happy and he knows it was a bit of a |
9520s | risk |
9521s | i think for me like with dawn grasp just |
9523s | don't die and then you'll win would be |
9526s | my view that's how i felt as well and |
9529s | now the game will be interesting because |
9531s | memo |
9532s | has resisted the opening |
9536s | that could have been hasn't taken much |
9539s | damage |
9540s | and now he's going to have more powerful |
9541s | things he can do compared to matching |
9543s | even though he'll be doing fewer things |
9545s | a turn |
9546s | mattie is still just going to plop |
9548s | things |
9553s | face there so he avoids the um |
9556s | the weird skeleton |
9559s | trade war |
9564s | stay where you are |
9576s | go again yep another bad deathbomb once |
9579s | more from the pirate here going to start |
9580s | stacking that damage and also |
9582s | really juicing the kel'thuzad right like |
9584s | that's going to be huge as well as that |
9587s | to nathrius but that's why i'd really |
9588s | like to see this theo tar get played |
9591s | there's a lot of cards i think matty |
9592s | would be okay giving over to merrow |
9595s | and the gain is huge because as we said |
9598s | mattie doesn't run donathius doesn't run |
9600s | you know this sort of extra late game |
9603s | stuff like roon like amulet that mero |
9605s | does i think there's a lot of upside to |
9607s | casting theotar right now |
9609s | yeah i can see it um |
9611s | i think he's still gonna try and sort of |
9613s | hit you freeze you hit you freeze you |
9615s | repeat |
9616s | uh i think that's the plan but |
9619s | the theo does look very very tempting |
9625s | doesn't feel like this is progress at |
9627s | the moment |
9628s | yeah if he's worried about the donation |
9631s | specifically he does have time yes |
9634s | absolutely |
9639s | yeah he's probably just giving it |
9640s | maximum chance to catch something |
9641s | obvious |
9643s | and still develop his board |
9652s | get some tempo |
9667s | i still have solid alibi so you know |
9669s | there's a turn where |
9671s | he can almost certainly not die as long |
9673s | as he plays it early right you obviously |
9675s | play it on like four health and you can |
9677s | still very much die you doesn't reduce |
9679s | all damage just reduces damage down to |
9681s | one per hit |
9684s | now you can see what the deck's trying |
9685s | to do it's got so much freeze in here |
9686s | but |
9688s | it's no use if you haven't got the board |
9690s | the idea is you freeze their stuff and |
9691s | you hit them |
9693s | freezing their stuff and passing your |
9694s | turns not quite as good |
9696s | strangely enough |
9699s | yeah i mean |
9700s | what matty wants to look at now is what |
9703s | six mana plays can he make right because |
9705s | he wants to hero power |
9707s | yeah |
9708s | but again there was just theota solid |
9710s | alibi hero power but looks like he's |
9712s | gonna go a little bit different here |
9714s | gonna go frozen touch |
9716s | again try and just uh make the skeletons |
9718s | high five each other i imagine |
9720s | look at merrell just mayor just being |
9721s | nodding like he just he's like yeah this |
9723s | is an acceptable play i'm okay with this |
9727s | yeah he got excited when the the |
9728s | skeleton chain left up for the deathborn |
9730s | that went his way but yeah he's just |
9732s | been yeah okay sure you're not doing |
9734s | anything that scares me anymore |
9736s | i've weathered the first eight turns now |
9737s | i have good cards |
9739s | rooney roone at donathius as i even |
9742s | pointed out |
9744s | [Music] |
9750s | a reminder both players are five and oh |
9752s | so if you're saying well this deck |
9753s | doesn't seem to play though yeah this |
9754s | deck's been doing fine off stream it |
9756s | must have been or he wouldn't be five or |
9757s | no right |
9761s | now |
9773s | i'm not bad honestly |
9776s | oh cold case as well okay i'll chop that |
9778s | up as a good one from there it starts |
9780s | off badly right didn't the first |
9782s | 10 man or so were pretty garbage but |
9785s | yeah okay |
9786s | is it time finally |
9793s | if he's not doing it now why is it in |
9795s | the deck that would be my question |
9798s | yeah |
9801s | and again although it's easy to say oh |
9803s | well we can see denaturius yes but there |
9806s | are a lot of good cards you can steal |
9809s | and as i said earlier matty has a lot of |
9811s | cards he can be okay with giving to his |
9813s | opponent |
9817s | yeah absolutely like his whole deck is |
9819s | fours and under as we've discussed a lot |
9821s | since the start of the cast so |
9824s | matty absolutely has that option but |
9825s | picking up this brand has made the turn |
9827s | a lot more interesting there's a lot of |
9829s | stuff going on now for him |
9831s | yeah parenthood |
9832s | [Laughter] |
9836s | oh theater |
9841s | war mana steal good stuff got to be a |
9844s | fan |
9850s | he's working out like the likelihood of |
9852s | just dying if he does that he's going to |
9853s | take a lot of damage |
9855s | yeah i mean i don't think it's bran |
9857s | theotar i think i theotar like farden |
9860s | would be good theota alibi would be fine |
9862s | as well if he wants to fit opinion |
9864s | instead |
9866s | he actually misses the infuse here does |
9868s | buff the pink though so that's huge just |
9870s | get the clean kill so it's gonna be six |
9872s | now |
9873s | now like how much is this denaturius at |
9876s | it feels like it's a reasonable sun it's |
9879s | just a big thing you see |
9881s | you do care but you know what i mean you |
9883s | do have five full heal as well straight |
9885s | to the heel |
9887s | hurt your opponent |
9889s | even with half those numbers would have |
9890s | been fine no he's loving it |
9892s | and also he got the ignite from not the |
9894s | ignite the wildfire sorry from the rune |
9897s | so actually his hero powers dealing too |
9899s | as well now |
9901s | so |
9902s | too bad at all can gain a ton of armor |
9905s | with the deep water as well with bran if |
9907s | he really needed to |
9909s | a lot of options now for mero |
9912s | a lot of options and they're all |
9914s | game-winning options i think right now |
9920s | that's the thing |
9922s | like if he makes a mistake here he's |
9923s | going to lose he's just |
9926s | how does matthew get out of it he's got |
9927s | to do 44 with this and remember he's got |
9929s | no big stuff just in case we haven't |
9930s | mentioned that a lot so |
9934s | how does he now assemble the board to do |
9936s | that much damage let's have two turns of |
9938s | solid alibi uh the second turn might not |
9941s | quite get him there but the first turn |
9942s | could |
9946s | thank you survive this turn if he can |
9947s | survive this turn |
9953s | sure good luck with that |
9961s | only one damage at a time but it's |
9963s | nearly lethal |
9964s | usually that speed |
9974s | tickle mattie to death through these |
9976s | alibis |
9979s | and there's a chance there's just five |
9980s | damage spells coming out here right |
9982s | excuse me yeah one is it gonna go face |
9985s | nope |
9989s | wait is meryl won somehow oh no he |
9991s | pulled him off that's what he's laughing |
9992s | at |
10005s | i redraw the hand makes sense honestly |
10007s | because nothing there ends the game and |
10010s | i believe his hair power is still on oh |
10012s | he's on three now actually yep three now |
10018s | i'm more just there so the second |
10020s | there's no alibis the game will end i |
10022s | think i always assume they're active |
10023s | it's not always active surely it is hey |
10027s | time for |
10028s | bran now |
10031s | brand theater |
10033s | get two more dresses |
10038s | uh he needs to play alibi he needs to |
10040s | play alibaba and kill some things |
10041s | because he's dead yeah |
10043s | yeah i thought it was going to be just |
10044s | uh alibi modrash not that any of these |
10047s | players i think particularly win mattie |
10049s | the game |
10060s | clear the board with apprentice and |
10062s | alibi that way okay |
10065s | [Music] |
10068s | if the brand sticks next turn he does |
10071s | have |
10073s | more dress |
10075s | the problem is he's just dead in two |
10076s | turns time right |
10078s | is he going to turn |
10082s | maybe actually pink |
10084s | oh yeah he can't ping |
10087s | he's just |
10088s | but he might choose not to he might if |
10090s | he pings he might actually win |
10094s | because if he pings he deals seven right |
10099s | and then if the brand lives he gets 20. |
10102s | it's |
10104s | maybe it's still fine actually he still |
10106s | wins advice yeah i think it's fine this |
10109s | doesn't win through freeze right |
10117s | no |
10118s | just a casual 20. |
10123s | it's closer than it felt like it was |
10125s | going to be i would admit |
10128s | after like four or five turns like matty |
10130s | had no chance but turns out that |
10132s | sticking a brand on the board is quite a |
10133s | big deal with mordred |
10136s | yeah |
10137s | it is |
10138s | close |
10139s | because we can see obviously there's 20 |
10141s | damage from modresh but i didn't think |
10143s | it needed to be this close |
10147s | yeah i agree |
10149s | and again the self polymorph was a |
10152s | little bit rough for mero taking out his |
10154s | denathrius |
10157s | i think you just kill off this brown and |
10158s | then what can really happen to you |
10163s | it doesn't even need to ping face right |
10167s | that's the motor she isn't actually |
10170s | okay i mean he's gonna silence it right |
10172s | it's a spy yeah science is the brand it |
10174s | it's fine it should be fine |
10178s | do they need steel that could |
10182s | not money that was theoretically unlucky |
10184s | yeah |
10190s | now he's trying to work out if he can |
10191s | die |
10194s | and yeah there's only 24 |
10197s | yeah that's all i can see |
10199s | just the 24 though that's a heck of a |
10201s | lot but yeah |
10205s | yeah i think |
10206s | oh |
10207s | yeah he can't win right |
10211s | i see theo toss something |
10215s | i don't even know what he could get from |
10217s | merrell's deck that would allow him to |
10218s | win as well |
10221s | did he have thin lead into cold case |
10229s | and then kill everything and not die |
10230s | next turn somehow |
10233s | so yeah does he |
10235s | wait he doesn't have a cold case |
10238s | does he use it both |
10240s | i believe so |
10241s | he's got multicaster |
10244s | vara |
10247s | he's not used |
10249s | i was any sound |
10250s | he's not helped has it yeah |
10252s | that was rough and again i think like |
10253s | there was options there that matty had |
10256s | uh there was the theotop earlier and |
10259s | when i think he had time to play it |
10261s | there was also the problem that very |
10264s | similar to you know timeout do you |
10265s | remember time out the party card like |
10268s | people were using it when they were on |
10269s | like five health and all it meant was |
10272s | you buy that one turn but then you did |
10274s | anyway the turn after whereas the people |
10276s | who used it to actually just reduce the |
10278s | most damage |
10279s | uh you know got the better end of the |
10281s | stick there and although of course that |
10284s | the daenerys came down on the turn i |
10286s | would have used it it just means that |
10288s | donations would have could have come |
10289s | down the turn after instead to deal what |
10291s | 10 15 damage whatever it was um |
10294s | it's not as easy to say that oh well if |
10295s | he alibid earlier would have been fine |
10297s | but i think alibi on higher health when |
10300s | there's minions on board and you don't |
10301s | have a way to clear them it's maybe a |
10302s | little bit better |
10304s | than saving it till the last second |
10306s | so yeah bit of a rough game there for |
10308s | matty i think he had the opportunities |
10310s | uh but mero played it cool and just |
10312s | stayed on top of the game throughout and |
10314s | the silence on the brand and made him |
10316s | very very comfortable indeed |
10318s | yeah he got a bit unlucky matty with the |
10320s | the death bomb being so big because the |
10322s | skeleton went face but yeah that's going |
10324s | to happen even if one dies then that can |
10326s | go facing again so eventually your one |
10328s | in three is gonna hit a face |
10330s | deathborn is allowed to get something |
10331s | there yeah and also bear in mind mero uh |
10334s | mass polymorphed his own dinathias which |
10336s | mattie didn't really have a way to stop |
10338s | a 10-10 yeah right so like there were |
10340s | still things that went a little bit |
10341s | funky both ways there but mero is gonna |
10344s | take the lead 1-0 with the mage and i |
10347s | believe now he's going to jump over to |
10348s | his warlock uh to go up against matty's |
10350s | mage once again let's have a quick look |
10353s | at the wall like i'm pretty sure it's a |
10354s | standard building |
10356s | one c giant |
10357s | and one battle master which i would uh |
10360s | guess it's not quite standard |
10362s | yeah i've seen battlemaster in a cursed |
10364s | deck somewhere |
10365s | it's testing around but yeah you don't |
10367s | see many battle masters they are they do |
10368s | kill you quick |
10370s | oh yeah batman is one of those cards |
10372s | that not everyone runs it but it's not a |
10374s | card i'd be shocked by if i saw it on |
10376s | ladder you i wouldn't be like whoa why |
10378s | are they running this card well because |
10379s | you can die |
10381s | with it so yeah not too bad at all a |
10383s | little bit um |
10385s | uh one of everything there's like the |
10387s | one grimoire the one silence the one |
10389s | okani of course uh the battlegrounds |
10392s | battle master one of c giant one of you |
10394s | know subtle would hate it but salt's not |
10396s | here so we're fine um |
10398s | so yeah it's good here |
10400s | it's gonna be an interesting one isn't |
10401s | it whether they're made that sounds like |
10404s | it should be able to be competitive |
10406s | actually can be versus this warlock |
10408s | because yep you think of reckless |
10410s | apprentice and you think of freezing |
10412s | stuff it all sounds good but how does |
10415s | matty actually kill the big imps is my |
10418s | question i i think this time around we |
10422s | might see a lot better of how it's |
10423s | supposed to work which is you don't |
10426s | you kill the small ones and you freeze |
10428s | the one or two big things you just keep |
10430s | hitting with your things because the |
10432s | warlock doesn't have the same way of |
10434s | being able to remove the board if it's |
10435s | minion to froze and that the opposing |
10437s | mage had |
10438s | so as long as matthew can get something |
10440s | on board you know maybe he'll actually |
10441s | draw the sanctum this time so he can |
10443s | take care of anything huge even the snow |
10445s | flow he's got freeze you know i know |
10447s | that's obvious but he is allowed to do |
10449s | some damage |
10451s | let's see how it goes as we get into |
10453s | game number two mero seems to be happy |
10456s | with his opening it looked okay to me |
10459s | yeah he's got imps yep looks good no |
10461s | circle though no circle no win this deck |
10467s | well no library |
10468s | ah library two yeah library two |
10472s | you can't stop |
10478s | they are but if you ask me which card |
10479s | i'd rather have in this hand circle or |
10481s | library it would be library every time |
10484s | we don't have anything i disagree with |
10487s | incredibly silly it's the reason people |
10489s | built this deck |
10492s | okay decision point here do you want to |
10494s | get this sanctum on the board |
10496s | i actually like the draw because if |
10498s | these one ones pop out i'm feeling very |
10501s | good about life |
10503s | how do you trade the one one |
10506s | and honestly you don't mind the blood |
10508s | bound him hurting his own hero to some |
10510s | extent |
10512s | you're not too slow yourself every time |
10514s | that attacks and does two yeah you can |
10515s | take two go for it |
10522s | the downside certainly aggro versus |
10524s | aggro of taking two for what is these |
10526s | days |
10527s | not a particularly huge minion a two |
10530s | five or two mana |
10531s | might be painful to say that but it's |
10533s | not massive anymore is it like it used |
10534s | to be oh yeah i mean let's be honest it |
10537s | wouldn't be played if it wasn't an imp |
10539s | right like it wouldn't it wouldn't make |
10540s | the list it's not quite the right shape |
10542s | but it is the right shape in you know |
10544s | cut matchups like the mirror and the |
10546s | fact that you can buff it where suddenly |
10549s | it's not a 1-1 being buffed right it's |
10551s | it's already got that sort of high |
10553s | health total to go against it so they're |
10555s | not looking too bad it's going to go for |
10557s | the okani and they're only trying to |
10559s | block something but also the ability to |
10561s | just soak a lot of hits from these |
10563s | minions |
10564s | yeah the bloodbound imp is the the first |
10566s | card that gets killed this is why people |
10568s | want to play curses in their in block |
10570s | it's there's a couple of them like imp |
10572s | gang boss blood bound him and |
10575s | there's one other kind of medium slow |
10577s | imp that you think yeah really oh just |
10579s | cut those and put some nurses in |
10581s | i don't know lauren i think i agree with |
10583s | your sentiment but do not put imp gang |
10585s | boss in there i think him |
10587s | gang boss is insane it's really good in |
10590s | the deck he's got a lot of synergy but |
10592s | it it is only a two four for three mana |
10594s | in 2022. but it's more imps that's the |
10597s | trick and you make a big imp gang boss |
10599s | and then you have never ending him just |
10601s | get it i understand |
10603s | but it is one of the cards you want to |
10604s | cut to put curse well you want to cut |
10606s | blood boundaries we agreed on that if oh |
10608s | in your world you put a different pin so |
10609s | people put a curse in for it then they |
10611s | say what else can i cut oh what's this |
10613s | thing yeah it's got synergy let's cut |
10615s | that as well and end up with a curse |
10616s | deck which |
10618s | for some reason just ends up being |
10620s | inconsistent anyway so you go back to |
10621s | this and just put them back in and get |
10622s | on with your life |
10630s | okay |
10631s | moment of truth now for matty can he |
10633s | deal with this |
10636s | let's get to potentially freeze too |
10638s | needs to test the ocarina of course |
10641s | or at least not test but get through |
10648s | again the issue of not really being able |
10650s | to connect that much damage through |
10652s | these even if you do freeze them or |
10655s | whatever |
10656s | yes a really good hand for this okay |
10659s | though right sorcerer's first to test |
10661s | minion and he can still reckless after |
10664s | and then he has if he want if that |
10666s | didn't pan out he could also use the |
10668s | flurry if he really needed to |
10670s | [Music] |
10674s | amazing but it's fine |
10676s | i like this the tutu gets to make a |
10677s | trade and maybe kills two imps and then |
10680s | the freeze little element oh no just to |
10682s | get some work done |
10685s | this is still okay |
10688s | this is what happens when you get an |
10689s | optimist with pessimists casting |
10691s | together |
10693s | i still think this was a solid turn |
10695s | uh-huh it was okay |
10702s | this is gonna be more okay though |
10707s | khan is still active |
10712s | oh |
10713s | even here comes all this stuff |
10717s | definitely stuff |
10720s | with the farm next turn as an option |
10723s | afford to be sort of wasteful here |
10727s | yeah rafan won't be infused though right |
10729s | or is unlikely to be infused |
10732s | it only got drawn this turn yeah sure |
10736s | that's fair |
10740s | is doing so much work just by existing |
10746s | i was going to trade away one of the |
10747s | bigger minions so that reckless going |
10749s | down |
10751s | means uh it's prepared to fight for the |
10752s | board a little bit longer |
10757s | again 26 health and matty means there's |
10759s | a lot of work still to be done |
10762s | yeah and he's going to want to play a |
10763s | lot of spells this time around matthew |
10765s | so that he can get the magister down |
10767s | maximum so he's gonna have to |
10769s | do the akani thing this time i have an |
10771s | idea |
10775s | i was shaking his head but |
10778s | at some point in two games |
10784s | alibi because then he gets another alibi |
10786s | a lot of the time to turn after |
10797s | first up next turn i think here is the |
10799s | main problem that's why he's pausing |
10805s | i think alibi is fine |
10807s | an alibi play the uh amplified but he's |
10811s | he would like to get double alibi right |
10813s | so when he plays manchester united gets |
10814s | another but that's not an option now |
10820s | i mean it can still happen right yeah |
10823s | yeah that's what the pause is i think i |
10825s | think it's just worth the matter right |
10826s | he's gonna probably take some damage |
10828s | this turn this means he can go face play |
10830s | a little bit more aggressive because and |
10832s | mero is um more inclined to trade with |
10835s | these imps now because of solid alibi |
10838s | and matty gets to go a little bit more |
10839s | aggro gets his more safely land dawn |
10842s | grasp and maybe gets the high roll as |
10844s | well with the spells so yeah looks good |
10846s | to me |
10850s | this is where the mage starts to look |
10852s | good because it's quite well protected |
10854s | you're forcing the imps to trade into |
10855s | yours right described |
10857s | and also you've just got a little bit of |
10859s | sort of your own chip damage the wallet |
10861s | doesn't want to tap really it doesn't |
10863s | want to flame him really |
10865s | i do wonder though if it is either |
10866s | flaming or void walker and then shady |
10868s | bartender this turn |
10872s | although i went to getting anything out |
10873s | of that i wonder if |
10876s | you're not waiting for circle are you |
10878s | with your bartender that's miles oh yeah |
10880s | and the thing as well is you |
10882s | maro will want matty to think this |
10884s | board's a threat and kill the board |
10886s | which means that there were farms ready |
10888s | to go as refill |
10890s | oh do we go into the game of chicken now |
10892s | where he just hits matty in the face and |
10894s | says okay i'm not trading your go oh |
10897s | hundred percent trades here right i |
10900s | don't know kill two minions or deal two |
10903s | damage |
10904s | i hm |
10906s | there's one |
10911s | which makes sense because now these |
10912s | three minions go in in theory into a |
10915s | three-five that's not ideal |
10922s | a lot of good work here i feel i have an |
10925s | idea including another five health of |
10926s | course |
10944s | i'm laughing because the decisions here |
10946s | are so weird |
10948s | yeah he got the alibi right yes you got |
10950s | the alibi |
10951s | yeah then just attack the skeleton see |
10953s | where it goes and make a decision yeah |
10954s | yeah yeah go from there |
10958s | i think in general if you've got the |
10959s | alibis so get through the void walker |
10962s | however you can and go all fakes right |
10965s | yeah or try and get the you've got zero |
10967s | amount of hero power so try and get the |
10969s | honorable kill somewhere |
10978s | there |
10979s | that makes a lot of difference when your |
10981s | opponents for 17. |
10983s | [Music] |
10985s | i like this |
10987s | yeah it does have that pardon as well |
10988s | ready to freeze out the board if needed |
10991s | yeah vardon then wildfire and ping on |
10994s | five to get to seven |
10996s | and then the other wildfire to go to |
10998s | eight |
10999s | frozen touch and you're just about there |
11001s | right |
11002s | wondering if that's a little bit too |
11003s | fancy |
11005s | i mean times you've spent pinging |
11007s | minions what if you just pinged face and |
11008s | won |
11009s | yeah it might be it might just be face |
11011s | face |
11013s | the numbers pan out but yeah |
11016s | don't call me fancy raven |
11020s | not being fantastic ketchup sandwich |
11022s | with the rest of them |
11026s | here though |
11028s | a lot mero can do |
11030s | nothing to trade into bored a little bit |
11032s | too full does get to use the uh library |
11035s | to open up a space but |
11040s | look at the uh |
11041s | the one drop here honestly |
11044s | the gang boss |
11049s | cycling away the bartender because it's |
11050s | not enough in that slot |
11058s | this is librarian |
11060s | all the hallmarks of somebody who |
11062s | knows they're up against it hasn't it |
11064s | it's like what do i play how do i clear |
11065s | my board what do i do in that one slot |
11069s | yep varden wildfire wildfire ping face |
11072s | next turn pink face frozen touch |
11075s | right yeah yeah yeah yeah |
11077s | that works |
11078s | is that the best order not that it |
11080s | really matters i think it's the best |
11081s | order as well |
11084s | yeah i mean with the location gone mero |
11086s | literally can't do anything right oh |
11088s | sorry he runs one grandma of sacrifice |
11098s | by my calculations you need to chill out |
11101s | nine nine just to be technically correct |
11112s | it's gonna hit for six and there's |
11114s | pretty much nothing mero can do about it |
11116s | with the whole board frozen |
11119s | and that looks like it's gonna be game |
11121s | number two going to matty series is |
11124s | evened up and the mage looked pretty |
11126s | good and honestly in both games the |
11128s | baits look pretty good right you just |
11129s | didn't quite get there in game one |
11131s | yeah absolutely i'd like to see that |
11133s | mage versus the |
11135s | the more regular spooky mage a few times |
11137s | to see how it pans out over a series of |
11139s | games but against the warlock there |
11142s | you can see exactly what the deck was |
11143s | supposed to do just |
11145s | be a very efficient streamlined version |
11147s | of the mage we know |
11149s | taking out some key cards the deathborn |
11152s | yeah |
11153s | there's some stuff there that isn't |
11154s | there but streamlined it to do the job |
11156s | that it's meant to do without all the |
11159s | things that i'm willing to call a little |
11161s | bit of clutter in the maid i'm not |
11163s | saying they're bad just yeah yeah things |
11165s | you might not need yeah like i said you |
11168s | just streamlined the deck and there are |
11169s | negatives to doing that and positives |
11171s | right it's just uh with the way matty's |
11173s | gone and it's looked pretty smooth |
11176s | overall so |
11178s | looking good there for matty does only |
11180s | even it up though there's still plenty |
11181s | of time for merrell or matty to take |
11183s | this and very quickly now that the mages |
11186s | are done with we're gonna jump into a |
11188s | naga priest mirror |
11190s | oh how priest mirrors have changed over |
11193s | the last 12 months |
11195s | imagine 12 months ago we said we're |
11197s | going into a priest move and we'd be |
11198s | like okay well just put your feet on the |
11200s | table just get ready to talk about boxes |
11203s | and now it's just going to be bam this |
11205s | is going to be very interesting as well |
11206s | because matty is playing i think card |
11210s | for card the list i've been playing on |
11212s | ladder i'm not saying he got it for me |
11213s | by the way |
11214s | i'm just saying it's the list with the |
11216s | one partner in crime and i believe mero |
11219s | is playing a list with a school teacher |
11221s | and no partner in crime so it's pretty |
11224s | much gonna be edelweiss versus me |
11227s | in terms of which version of the tech we |
11229s | like more so i'm very excited to see |
11231s | this is definitely going to be a a best |
11232s | of one for for the bragging rights and |
11235s | if i lose it's not best of one and we |
11237s | have to carry on later |
11238s | yeah well we just that's how we've done |
11240s | it in the americas region for years |
11242s | raven been doing it for absolute years |
11244s | we just keep going till we win one then |
11246s | say yep that's the one that mattered |
11248s | um |
11249s | i don't know partner in crime |
11252s | i am i |
11253s | played first with two of those in and it |
11256s | was rubbish i'm not sure about the one |
11258s | of them it's |
11260s | it feels like it's the 30th card either |
11262s | way so just put up whatever you want and |
11264s | i hope you don't draw it |
11265s | that's mine yeah i i i like it as a |
11267s | one-off just because it does give you |
11269s | that air sort of board in a box that has |
11271s | like relevant health again uh joking |
11274s | aside i do see the value of school |
11276s | teacher like 100 |
11278s | it's just for me it's a card that procs |
11280s | wig but it's not an actual like |
11284s | that relevant a minion on board whereas |
11287s | the uh the partner in crime obviously |
11288s | can get a little bit crazy so uh we will |
11292s | see how it goes i do like these matchups |
11294s | though and not only do they have that |
11297s | sort of variable length because |
11298s | sometimes |
11299s | you could just one player pops off and |
11301s | it happens but the the decks can |
11303s | actually play pretty late if they keep |
11305s | things even uh but this opening for |
11308s | matty double radiant slither spear |
11310s | probably ends up throwing the boon away |
11312s | maybe of one of the radiants but pretty |
11314s | solid open overall you you're always |
11316s | happy to see slither spinner |
11318s | yeah absolutely oh my goodness though |
11320s | look at me look what they've both done |
11322s | what's happening this is gonna be nutty |
11323s | this game is gonna last like three turns |
11325s | i just don't know who wins |
11327s | it oh the tempo |
11330s | oh do it |
11331s | love it |
11334s | yes who needs mana just naught man of |
11336s | one one |
11338s | there's not to be a naught man or two |
11339s | three off we go |
11341s | oh my goodness |
11343s | david what's happening |
11348s | who needs any form of late game control |
11350s | priest when you have this |
11354s | this is absolutely nutty he's just got |
11356s | to decide whether he wants to hold on |
11357s | until turn two so he can get |
11361s | off and pellet goes onto the board he |
11363s | just makes me even more nutty |
11365s | my bloody how much nutty you are |
11373s | gonna go again i imagine with the wig |
11376s | oh my goodness make it stop tell me you |
11379s | know |
11380s | you've done it where's he gonna put the |
11382s | other one though okay he's going all the |
11383s | way on the slyther swear reasonable |
11386s | you're just basically this basically |
11388s | sacrifices the one one if merrell wants |
11390s | to kill it |
11391s | and then |
11393s | just leaves the slit the spare in a much |
11395s | better position overall so i do like it |
11401s | yeah probably going to be scribed romero |
11404s | not quite having the pop-off tony once |
11406s | but he's ahead on minions which is |
11407s | something to bear in mind |
11410s | how long for |
11412s | real question here |
11413s | i think you just play the radiant but do |
11415s | you play the radiant wig then |
11418s | anymore do you do nothing do you trade |
11420s | heal i think you trade heal |
11422s | okay |
11423s | if you play raging you know radians dead |
11427s | right |
11428s | do you get nothing |
11429s | i mean |
11431s | you know there's a wig in hand and |
11432s | there's very likely there's available |
11434s | yeah but both of them got incredible |
11436s | good hands or even like as you can see |
11438s | like devour bless like the the radiant |
11441s | very likely to die so i do like just the |
11444s | trade heal and weight |
11446s | because matty's very ahead right now |
11451s | yes |
11454s | i don't know how stable the very ahead |
11456s | is but he is very ahead |
11460s | because mario's got such a powerful hand |
11461s | himself might not stay very ahead right |
11465s | [Music] |
11466s | radiant |
11467s | and then dig for devour |
11471s | eventually sure |
11477s | he's running to the problem now where a |
11480s | lack of naga is a little bit of an issue |
11483s | but very they're both in the same spot |
11485s | now it's funny yeah it has some time |
11487s | there's also like the |
11489s | the |
11490s | interesting play of trading the slythers |
11493s | spear into the 4 3 and then just playing |
11496s | pelegoes and seeing what your opponent |
11498s | does |
11499s | a little bit spicy but if pellego sticks |
11502s | then you can do very silly things yeah |
11504s | it's close right it's definitely |
11506s | tempting because if it does stick you're |
11507s | in a great spot also got to decide how |
11510s | you want to use this samurai because |
11512s | that could just be a crazy crazy board |
11514s | swing |
11515s | if it gets one hit in with i know three |
11517s | attack your opponent just might never |
11519s | get back in the game so a lot to talk |
11521s | about as najak comes off the top giving |
11523s | memo even more |
11525s | stuff |
11528s | this devourer's going to be pretty |
11529s | devourers from here yeah ghost devours |
11532s | like yeah quite strong |
11540s | reasonable |
11547s | with nigec as well is this just coming |
11549s | up to the end or does matty actually |
11551s | have a way to deal with this i think |
11554s | there's ways right samuro is in hand and |
11556s | now there's a naga to activate serpent |
11559s | so he could play the slow game and go |
11561s | like thrive now |
11563s | then play naga then have serpent at zero |
11567s | and then look at you know if you draw |
11568s | bless next turn you can samurai bless |
11570s | that deal's eight and hope that's enough |
11573s | and there's bless so |
11575s | an option he's too far away to consider |
11578s | like samurai pelegos yeah that devourer |
11581s | which is it's a great play but it's not |
11583s | gonna happen but i do like the look of |
11585s | this bless and then you play the uh |
11587s | the um |
11590s | scribe i wanted to call it sea witch for |
11591s | some reason there but it looks like |
11593s | seaweed |
11597s | but yeah it says place scribe and then |
11599s | just have the a and hope that there's no |
11602s | naga to buff the pelicans |
11604s | and even if there is right there's it's |
11606s | still you get to deal eight damage to |
11608s | the peligos it's not gonna have that |
11610s | much more health left |
11612s | oh |
11618s | surprised at that honestly |
11623s | he's got something planned for next turn |
11624s | by the looks oh |
11626s | how do people cut boone |
11628s | madness |
11631s | isn't it just the best card in the day |
11634s | it feels look at this how do people not |
11636s | play this card just won the game |
11641s | yeah it's madness look at it it's just |
11643s | an extra 1012 for no good reason |
11645s | whatsoever |
11647s | and yeah by the way just buff something |
11649s | else like i'm gonna copy you but first |
11650s | of all i'm gonna make you bigger like |
11652s | really yeah |
11654s | how much matter oh four okay you know |
11656s | we'll take some of that then |
11660s | a little bit |
11665s | here's the thrive that matty set up last |
11667s | turn |
11668s | yeah not gonna matter though |
11671s | i just didn't know what the second |
11672s | thrive was going to do obviously the |
11674s | bless wouldn't have done anything either |
11676s | because the minions ended up being too |
11677s | big but i didn't really know what the |
11680s | plan was for matty it looked like like a |
11683s | three turn plan and i think assuming |
11685s | that |
11686s | more health isn't going to get dropped |
11687s | down in three turns is a bit a bit |
11690s | grander than assuming there's one turn |
11692s | gap that you can maybe get away with but |
11694s | it does mean mero takes the victory |
11697s | there uh looking good and uh does get |
11700s | the win uh with the school teacher that |
11702s | had zero impact along with the uh |
11705s | the um partnering crime that also had |
11707s | zero impact so that was a avoid the game |
11709s | in terms of who's who's uh |
11712s | wearing the better version does this |
11714s | mean almer's only got that warlock left |
11715s | and uh it's in pluck you've got to say |
11718s | he's got to be feeling confident |
11720s | yeah |
11720s | absolutely um |
11723s | two goes at it to go six and oh |
11727s | uh gonna |
11728s | probably struggle against the shaman |
11730s | gonna probably struggle against the naga |
11732s | priest but the thing is he's only going |
11733s | to win one of them and we have this |
11735s | discussion every time this comes up it's |
11737s | very hard |
11738s | you think oh no i'm 40 60. well that |
11741s | means you're like 70 something percent |
11743s | to win the match from here because the |
11745s | chances are you're not going to lose 240 |
11746s | percenters even though you're unfavored |
11748s | each time |
11750s | yeah it's interesting right because |
11752s | although the shaman has tools to deal |
11754s | with zoo i feel like if the shaman |
11756s | doesn't get schooling early |
11758s | then zoo could just overrun them right |
11761s | it's not like it's a a done and dusted |
11763s | match-up right i do think the shaman |
11765s | needs the good early draws to be able to |
11767s | deal with it so we'll see how it goes |
11769s | it's going to be the priest once again |
11771s | though |
11772s | and this i think is a good match up for |
11774s | for the priest |
11775s | i agree absolutely devour being probably |
11778s | the key card well devour and having a |
11780s | minion |
11782s | being the the key combo there against |
11784s | this warlock so let's see how it goes |
11786s | radiant good pickup as well |
11788s | yeah the second you get one minion |
11789s | established as a a seven seven one eight |
11792s | eight you're almost there aren't you |
11794s | because it just keeps getting bigger and |
11796s | bigger and |
11797s | it just never gets dealt with you get |
11799s | the choice either just kill them in two |
11800s | turns or pick things off until you're |
11802s | ready to kill them in two turns and it's |
11804s | fine right |
11806s | you should be good |
11808s | we're actually wondering |
11810s | well she's really staring at this coin |
11812s | wicked shipment here as well |
11816s | there's a slight fear |
11817s | yeah because of the curve but again i |
11820s | think there is the fear that with like |
11821s | coin wicked shipments |
11823s | a radiant devourer is insane |
11827s | sure |
11829s | but the other side of it this doesn't |
11831s | happen so it's still awkward to work out |
11833s | what you want to do |
11834s | with nadjak in hand for matty matty's |
11836s | set pretty well obviously doesn't have |
11838s | that devour |
11840s | but as a devourerless hand this is about |
11842s | the best you could hope for |
11848s | oh okay |
11850s | i really like just playing more minions |
11852s | honestly |
11854s | sorry we don't have any |
11856s | really powerful thoughts |
11861s | they like to pick up something else you |
11862s | can |
11864s | yes it's just like this turn |
11867s | could have killed both minions right |
11869s | sure |
11880s | i just want to trade into the three two |
11881s | and just jam a pentagon on the board and |
11883s | say the game's over if you don't deal |
11884s | with this right now i mean i can't argue |
11886s | with that polygons pretty hard to kill |
11890s | especially because there's no location |
11891s | there's no library for mero yeah |
11894s | without if library got played that turn |
11897s | i would be a little bit more worried |
11899s | about it but i agree with no library you |
11901s | get the trade there's two attack there's |
11903s | going to be |
11905s | with coin |
11907s | maximum plus three that's still only |
11909s | five right |
11911s | yeah with corrections if it was location |
11913s | coin wicked |
11919s | but more likely he'll draw something and |
11921s | just play |
11923s | a couple of weeks priestess |
11925s | have a giant pelagos |
11927s | yeah sure good luck have fun |
11931s | not over yet though |
11934s | memo has the decision to make whether he |
11936s | wants to even |
11937s | worry about devour here he's so far |
11940s | behind he might just decide to jam a |
11941s | circle and see what happens |
11946s | yeah i keep staring at the sea giant |
11948s | trying to work out what the setup for |
11950s | the sea giant will be |
11952s | because with fiendish circle um and |
11954s | everything to just beef it up a little |
11956s | bit you start to make a very wide board |
11958s | very quickly and see giant is one of the |
11960s | few minions there without library of |
11962s | course they can actually fight some of |
11965s | the big priest minions once they're |
11967s | buffed up |
11968s | well slither spear off the top mattie's |
11970s | just gonna take time to order this for |
11971s | maximum efficiency but this is going to |
11973s | be absolutely ridiculous turn |
11978s | because the pillow goes because of the |
11979s | priestess he just leaves himself just |
11981s | plays everything ends up with a knife in |
11982s | hand |
11990s | oh okay i'm fine with this as well steal |
11992s | the two five trade into the two one and |
11994s | do all that next turn with even more |
11995s | cards sure |
11998s | i've got i think actually just wants to |
12000s | remove any threat whatsoever yeah |
12005s | it's better |
12009s | these books are ruined |
12021s | okay can he do everything |
12023s | oh he can barely |
12025s | just radium boom the palagos |
12031s | i mean it's not |
12033s | oh i'd even yeah he can do a lot of |
12035s | things yeah he could just sneak into |
12037s | pieces |
12039s | yeah |
12040s | i think he can right yeah he just |
12043s | priestess wig boo and yeah it's just to |
12046s | get out the game kind of turn |
12048s | just get out of the game |
12050s | set him up for game number five to see |
12052s | who's going 6-0 in a very strong chat |
12054s | top eight and who isn't yeah now like |
12056s | wake the pelagos |
12058s | and boom i mean just press buttons |
12062s | that's my um |
12064s | official stance here just press button |
12068s | can you play the other wig as well you |
12070s | can if you want honestly press buttons |
12076s | just take your time let the rope burn |
12078s | quite near to the end and hope your |
12079s | opponent concedes you don't have to |
12080s | bother working out the exact optimal |
12082s | turn |
12094s | yeah i think maui got a little bit lost |
12096s | there |
12097s | again i was wondering |
12098s | what was |
12101s | going on in that turn it looked a little |
12103s | bit strange in places but most |
12105s | importantly he played all his cards |
12107s | which was definitely the uh |
12109s | on a simple level the thing to do |
12111s | carney this hand gone i dare you |
12116s | i wonder any spells or any minions raven |
12119s | how does that work it does have a c |
12121s | giant though |
12123s | not quite gonna do the job but he does |
12125s | have one exactly but he's facing down |
12127s | 237 damage yeah he can't do that 37 |
12130s | defense so he gives it |
12132s | to all |
12134s | what a weird series both players won |
12137s | with their mage |
12138s | in one game than game two now both |
12140s | players have won with their prese game |
12142s | three game four |
12144s | and also in both instances mero has been |
12147s | winning the mirror matches yeah which is |
12149s | just it's just an odd series to look at |
12151s | when it's on the spreadsheet linda but |
12153s | it does mean that it is going to be uh |
12155s | the wait what shaman versus yeah the |
12158s | shaman versus now you're going to play |
12160s | here they they have got slightly |
12161s | different lineups so slightly different |
12163s | bands aren't unexpected entirely |
12166s | but when you get down to what you just |
12168s | said where the two mirror matches have |
12169s | happened |
12170s | and you're in this spot then the band |
12173s | starts to matter and shaman |
12175s | is it a decent spot against warlock if |
12177s | it would if you're not in a decent spot |
12178s | against warlock you can't thrive on |
12180s | ladder so you've got to be pretty decent |
12182s | and obviously yeah |
12184s | it's just in a decent spot against |
12186s | everything |
12187s | yeah it's definitely looking okay um |
12190s | just looking at the build here |
12193s | there's nothing too crazy kind of the |
12196s | usual suspects in there it is the greedy |
12198s | shaming version so |
12199s | it's got the uh the primordial wave in |
12202s | there it's still got the kale fast combo |
12204s | with daenerys as you can see now and and |
12207s | kind of yeah all the usual stuff |
12209s | basically but the key cards to look at |
12212s | for any of the cheap murlocs uh bolner |
12216s | as well i think is quite good versus uh |
12218s | the imps |
12219s | if you can play it out on curve and most |
12221s | importantly schooling is the absolute |
12224s | nuts versus this warlock just push them |
12226s | off board once and it gets pretty |
12228s | difficult for them to keep up with you |
12230s | after that yeah fleurgal exists as well |
12233s | if you need a sort of fairly quick just |
12236s | get rid of some imps before they get too |
12238s | big |
12239s | and then you've got snowfall guardians |
12241s | and all everyone's favorite cards |
12242s | further down the list so |
12244s | become if you really get that far just |
12246s | for some heal |
12247s | you're fine |
12249s | that is i guess the one |
12251s | slight weakness of the deck against some |
12252s | decks where is that lack of heal but |
12256s | warlock isn't going to be throwing |
12257s | things to your face other than minions |
12259s | so you're okay |
12261s | yeah looking forward to this one going |
12262s | to be a crazy game a lot on the line |
12264s | here as again as you i think you |
12266s | mentioned right the player will that |
12268s | wins this will be going 6-0 |
12271s | uh into the next round of swiss and once |
12275s | you hit that 6-0 something has to go |
12278s | very very wrong |
12280s | yeah you have to notice twice and go |
12281s | into and it'd be bad |
12283s | yeah yeah yeah so |
12286s | um so yeah you get into sort of |
12289s | i think i'm there but i better win |
12291s | another one territory at that point |
12294s | game mccall's an okay start oh okay this |
12297s | is fun |
12298s | both players have great openings matty |
12301s | will be happy to see schooling of course |
12303s | but mero has like the opening too right |
12306s | choice of one drops vial library i guess |
12308s | the thing missing is a uh a multi uh imp |
12312s | card uh whether that circle or the uh |
12314s | shipment or anything like that but yeah |
12316s | shake it head for mero |
12318s | he knows that's the one thing |
12320s | the one fish he didn't want to see |
12324s | and matty's looking a little bit sort of |
12325s | you know well look at my luck i'm i'm |
12328s | sorry but also matt he's had his fair |
12329s | share of bad luck on streams with the |
12331s | occasional accident thrown in over the |
12332s | last |
12333s | 12 months he's a louder a lucky one |
12337s | yeah this is a play i've already seen |
12339s | today actually the insta library proc on |
12342s | a flame imp means that uh the coin would |
12345s | have to be used here |
12346s | from uh from matty to be able to |
12348s | actually kill it uh we saw it earlier uh |
12352s | it was thunder versus love storm and i |
12355s | believe |
12356s | uh thunder did choose to coin he ended |
12358s | up losing the game uh but he did choose |
12361s | to coin to actually answer the emp |
12362s | straight away and then the turn with the |
12364s | fish still on board |
12366s | i'm happy not to here yeah |
12370s | because they can't punish you because |
12371s | their library's closed for renovations |
12374s | ruined yep the internet's ruined |
12376s | everything hasn't it yeah absolutely |
12386s | and now you've still got a coin |
12387s | and you've taken five damage but |
12390s | really what threats |
12395s | yep this is still a full clear right if |
12398s | everything trades down a little clear |
12399s | and coin next one in hand |
12401s | yup |
12403s | just in case |
12406s | with this order in as well nice clean |
12408s | play from matty meaning he gets to |
12411s | retain the three one which is huge the |
12413s | difference between having a minion and |
12414s | not |
12416s | able to trade is absolutely massive good |
12418s | follow-up though from mero i guess to |
12420s | decide whether he wants to use the |
12421s | library i feel like yet again just cr |
12424s | using that up is going to be worthwhile |
12428s | yeah um maggie still got it to do here |
12430s | even though you saw the sort of slight |
12432s | shake at the head it's like really |
12433s | you're gonna make me work for this one |
12435s | after this start come on it's not fair |
12439s | could |
12440s | play even slower if you really wanted to |
12444s | here he could take a trade into a 3-3 |
12447s | um |
12448s | wind chill the seven seven and just play |
12450s | cookie |
12452s | because it means you'd have calling for |
12453s | glug because glug versus implod is |
12456s | actually pretty nuts sure i really |
12458s | wouldn't have hated |
12461s | this is it though he's assuming that |
12463s | member kind of has to go face here |
12466s | i mean he doesn't have to he can trade |
12467s | but if you trade sure you'll three one |
12468s | trades back |
12470s | and then he's still got the um job done |
12472s | the wind chill for next time with the |
12473s | two no your play but kind of different |
12475s | order no one of grimoire for mero off |
12478s | the top which would have been insane |
12480s | sacrificed to three three to kill the |
12482s | whole board |
12484s | yeah |
12486s | yeah some people are playing he's |
12487s | playing one but yeah some people are |
12489s | playing that as a two i've seen in this |
12491s | tournament which is really |
12492s | where you start getting into you might |
12494s | as well play cursed territory |
12500s | have the episode using the old muk |
12503s | to uh evolve one of these five ones as |
12506s | well |
12515s | and what's he gonna do next turn that's |
12517s | how he works out what he's going to do |
12518s | with his muck |
12520s | next turn is the hard turn right because |
12522s | he can't do the coin glug which you |
12524s | would go to try and do with a saved |
12531s | manner coming i'm coming |
12536s | i feel very safe for all the time being |
12540s | fairly so you can go wrong quickly again |
12546s | you trade i think you do i'm 14 though i |
12550s | guess yeah but with |
12552s | what aggro like what damage has matty |
12555s | got right 12 on the board that's that's |
12557s | what he's working with he's saying well |
12559s | he's gonna have to trade into him he's |
12560s | got seven but yeah |
12562s | because the trade would just happen |
12563s | right if you make this out of this push |
12565s | a trade happens |
12566s | um |
12568s | i guess it's just i'd be a little bit |
12570s | worried if this gets cleared up |
12573s | what kind of trouble you could find |
12575s | yourself in with that kind of weird turn |
12576s | six play that matty doesn't really have |
12580s | there's also a weird play if you're the |
12581s | battle master and then you get to trade |
12583s | into cookie and a five one with your |
12585s | three |
12586s | yeah that's not bad there's also the |
12588s | silence play which yes you lose the 7-7 |
12591s | section of it yeah you get to silence |
12593s | and play an imp |
12595s | and you get to clear off both minions |
12598s | they're both big minions |
12603s | gets rid of the negative of the two five |
12606s | oh |
12607s | oh really wait what |
12611s | i'm already shocked it wasn't the five |
12613s | ones that got traded |
12616s | well one was a value trade which makes |
12618s | some sense with the three to face |
12620s | this is only 16 with battle master if |
12623s | everything lives |
12625s | yeah |
12627s | something went wrong here |
12629s | i don't know raven |
12631s | i don't like these five ones just |
12632s | pointing at my face |
12634s | i would have preferred to see a battle |
12635s | master |
12638s | yeah if you're going to do this i think |
12640s | i agree |
12641s | roll the evolve first has command of |
12643s | neptulon to clean up |
12646s | he's reading it |
12648s | it's the deal one right yeah |
12653s | i love it when players just obviously |
12655s | alike wait what's that card |
12658s | the king of that of course being pavel |
12660s | with rogue scenes oh that was the best |
12662s | like in this case matty probably has an |
12664s | idea what he does and just wants to |
12665s | double check |
12666s | in the case you're talking about with |
12668s | pavlet so he just didn't know rogue had |
12670s | secrets let alone what they did like why |
12671s | both playing a secret the look on his |
12673s | face |
12675s | we have a shout out as well a little bit |
12676s | of a promo that match is one of the |
12678s | matches featured in hearthstone the |
12680s | legends pavel edition uh on their the |
12683s | arsenal youtube channel so check it out |
12684s | absolutely let's check out the whole |
12685s | series they've been really good well |
12687s | good work from raven have to admit it in |
12689s | front of him which is horrible but yeah |
12690s | very nice stuff |
12692s | oh |
12694s | that's kind of hilarious |
12704s | get to push uh what's this push 10 |
12706s | then clear the majority of the board |
12709s | okay and then get glued |
12712s | yeah that's true but i think meow's in a |
12714s | much better position than he thought he |
12715s | was going to end the turn in |
12717s | true |
12720s | yeah you've come this far now you have |
12721s | to do it |
12723s | you're here now |
12724s | yeah literally dead if you don't |
12736s | that |
12737s | just ends it right |
12739s | yeah hits |
12741s | there's no charge |
12743s | um |
12744s | there's no |
12745s | dinathrius there's no way the silence |
12748s | has been used which i think is the key |
12750s | factor here uh so silence has been used |
12753s | from mero which means this he's got |
12755s | absolutely no way in his deck to deal |
12756s | with this that's gonna be live tap |
12758s | that's gonna be a game and matty |
12760s | goes to a six zero score in swiss so far |
12765s | and i think uh you know i do understand |
12767s | it these are long days the players are |
12768s | gonna be stressed especially when you |
12770s | can almost taste that top 16 spot but |
12773s | matty did not really look comfortable |
12776s | during that series i think he played all |
12778s | right overall but there were moments |
12780s | where you could tell he was kind of |
12781s | getting lost in his own mind working out |
12783s | what turns to play um but still |
12786s | regardless of that matty was the winner |
12788s | takes the win and uh he's looking good |
12791s | to make him top 16. yeah and i think the |
12794s | lack of sort of comfort zone comes from |
12797s | the way that this meta works a lot of |
12799s | the time you can go one zero down you're |
12801s | like oh yeah but that's the deck that's |
12803s | supposed to lose or that's the deck |
12804s | that's supposed to win |
12805s | but this meta |
12807s | uh the decks as submitted nearly |
12810s | everything apart from some alignment |
12812s | match-ups are |
12813s | reasonably close to 50 50 |
12815s | you know within |
12816s | some license to |
12818s | argue |
12820s | and so you're not really the positive |
12821s | one oh yeah well that one's lost so if |
12823s | you want a zero down |
12825s | you've just one zero down there's no |
12827s | messing about and sort of pontificating |
12829s | you're just behind so it was always |
12832s | playing from behind in that series just |
12833s | under a lot of stress and yeah just got |
12835s | it done at the end |
12836s | yeah pretty crazy series overall but as |
12839s | usual there's plenty more where that |
12841s | came from we are going to go to a quick |
12843s | break but there's more coverage from |
12845s | round six coming right up so don't go |
12847s | anywhere we'll be right back |
12859s | so |
12887s | so |
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12910s | foreign |
12915s | [Music] |
12926s | foreign |
12940s | [Music] |
12958s | do |
12960s | [Music] |
12977s | [Music] |
12982s | [Music] |
12986s | so |
12992s | [Music] |
13010s | [Music] |
13025s | [Music] |
13044s | welcome back everybody to masters tour |
13046s | murder at castle nathria we're finishing |
13049s | off the rest of the action at round six |
13052s | here getting through to the really spicy |
13054s | rounds now |
13055s | uh how have you been enjoying your time |
13056s | though adelbeis joining me here on the |
13058s | casting desk uh here so far at the |
13060s | masters tour |
13062s | yep been having a blast i'm excited to |
13063s | see that monsanto is 6-0 and i'm |
13067s | very excited for this round where we've |
13069s | got |
13070s | wirer who is just an excellent deck |
13073s | builder you know i try and build decks |
13075s | myself i don't usually have as much much |
13076s | success as some of these players but i |
13078s | try everything so i'm a huge fan of wire |
13081s | and john bray who just have some really |
13083s | creative deck builds and i think the |
13085s | druid is the spiciest one that we're |
13087s | going to see in this matchup |
13089s | yeah poorer poor wiry spends his entire |
13091s | hearthstone career correcting people |
13093s | because it's like no he's not jamboree |
13095s | but he plays a lot of the same decks no |
13097s | he's not german he's from luxembourg |
13098s | even though you know he |
13100s | hangs out with a lot of the german |
13101s | players his name and discord i believe |
13103s | is actually not german |
13104s | right now so just to remind people uh in |
13107s | case they forget uh but yeah i agree |
13110s | really really big fan of wyra and he's |
13112s | brought the spice this tournament as |
13114s | well no surprises there with a couple of |
13116s | spicy tech cards and most importantly |
13118s | this druid deck which i think is |
13122s | very similar to a deck that jambray |
13124s | invented himself brought it to the |
13125s | solari party |
13127s | last weekend |
13128s | uh and he's made a couple of key tech |
13131s | decisions but basically this is just |
13132s | some weird kind of |
13135s | box druid where you try and like tutor |
13138s | out convoke the spirits as much as |
13139s | possible i have no idea how to describe |
13141s | it but it is gorgeous to watch it in |
13143s | action |
13144s | yeah you've got convoke the spirits and |
13146s | then nightshade bud as an option to |
13149s | if you don't have convoke you cast it |
13151s | and you look at the spells in your deck |
13153s | and can pick convoked cast so |
13156s | really all in on that strategy has a bit |
13158s | of the feel of sort of big spell mage in |
13161s | terms of playing uh barbaric sorceress |
13164s | even and green thumb gardener so taking |
13166s | advantage of those big spells and then |
13168s | the top end is just all beef right |
13170s | you've still got dinatharius raid boss |
13172s | neptulon |
13174s | insatiable devourers so it's a really |
13177s | interesting deck looking forward to that |
13178s | one but first we got some good old face |
13180s | hunter from pharath over here uh pretty |
13183s | traditional wild spirits are very strong |
13186s | and then |
13187s | got twin boat |
13188s | collateral damage although you don't |
13190s | really want a twin bow collateral |
13191s | anymore unless your opponent has like |
13193s | six minions in play |
13196s | no longer doing crazy amounts of damage |
13198s | i think twin bow is still just good |
13200s | enough to go with wild spirits |
13203s | agreed yeah yeah yeah i think that twin |
13205s | bow is just really uh a gorgeous |
13207s | inclusion in the deck allowing you to |
13209s | ramp up your damage your board control |
13211s | it does everything you want to do |
13212s | depending on which which mode you're in |
13214s | face hunter uh but fuyra on the other |
13216s | side on le quest hunter i think things |
13220s | could get a little bit trickier right |
13222s | because |
13223s | uh quest hunter generally does very well |
13225s | against board-based decks is what is |
13227s | your your bread and butter is a deck |
13229s | where you're trying to clear all their |
13230s | minions off and then you just burst them |
13231s | down in the late game when your hero |
13233s | power is way outpacing anything they can |
13234s | do |
13235s | but is it the same case against face |
13237s | hunter where they also have a lot of |
13239s | over-the-top burn |
13242s | so i mean quest hunter i think the main |
13244s | thing |
13245s | going against the face hunter is you |
13247s | have a lot of removal so it'll be really |
13250s | interesting to see if barath can just |
13252s | get so many wild spirits down so quickly |
13255s | that it's too much to remove all at once |
13258s | and so wire won't be able to keep up but |
13260s | of course if as the quest hunter you're |
13262s | just able to keep removing and keep |
13264s | removing you give yourself plenty of |
13266s | time to |
13267s | just complete the quest and eventually |
13269s | get there with you know a bunch of face |
13271s | damage |
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13274s | interesting thing though is of course |
13275s | talking about uh |
13277s | 30 verse 40 on both sides i do like the |
13280s | wire is again going with the uh the 40 |
13282s | card prince aren't allowed this is |
13283s | really the uh the perfect distribution |
13286s | for quest hunter where you want to play |
13287s | it yourself so that you can survive a |
13289s | little bit longer but you really don't |
13290s | want your opponent to be playing |
13291s | renaissance because it gets a lot harder |
13293s | to kill them uh and so here unless we |
13295s | see a really really fast start to the |
13297s | game which farth does admittedly have |
13300s | with click clocker into doggy biscuit uh |
13302s | wire should be able to uh |
13305s | have too much health to burst down and |
13306s | then i think have time to get tavish |
13308s | down as well |
13311s | yeah click clocker is actually one of |
13312s | the better turn one minions here i think |
13315s | just because if your opponent wants to |
13317s | play the quest |
13318s | they don't actually get any credit |
13321s | for popping the divine shield it'll be |
13322s | interesting to see if wire just |
13325s | okay it's still going to play the quest |
13327s | i think you might be willing to take it |
13328s | slow and |
13330s | play the one one rush just to prevent |
13332s | something like a doggy biscuit coming |
13334s | down |
13335s | it was very very tempting just because |
13337s | it's such a clean play but i think with |
13339s | the freezing trap in hand you'd be fine |
13341s | with just letting them play doggy |
13343s | biscuit here and then clearing up |
13345s | whatever other minions they play on |
13346s | following turns uh the k9 of tron i do |
13348s | think is a a very welcome uh deviation |
13352s | away from this line though uh of just |
13354s | the doggy biscuit |
13356s | yeah tough choice right do you play |
13358s | around something like just freezing trap |
13360s | on curve usually the quest |
13363s | hunter wants to get something like the |
13365s | uh objective down dunbalder bunker to |
13368s | start drawing |
13369s | secrets but this is a matchup where they |
13371s | wouldn't really have the breathing room |
13373s | to do that |
13374s | so i think you're right that that |
13376s | freezing trap was the reason why i felt |
13378s | comfortable playing the turn one quest |
13381s | but uh k90tron complicates things just a |
13384s | little bit |
13388s | a fine start to the game before our boy |
13390s | awira getting to as you said actually |
13392s | get the quest completion because for the |
13394s | moment he's just ignoring the click |
13395s | clocker which is uh i think fine this |
13398s | one point of damage return is not going |
13400s | to be |
13402s | anything especially threatening i think |
13403s | you should be able to still quite |
13404s | handsomely outpace the rest of the |
13406s | damage |
13407s | bear as well being presented uh |
13410s | usually i find the one i'm least happy |
13412s | to see most of the time because rather |
13414s | just the immediate attack of the uh the |
13416s | lynx or the bow which is now getting |
13419s | nerfed it's so powerful uh but in this |
13421s | instance the bear i think you know |
13422s | you're kind of still expecting it to die |
13424s | and it doesn't even push that much |
13426s | yeah like with the two five stat line it |
13430s | is a little bit challenging to clear |
13431s | sometimes but usually you only want it |
13434s | if it's sort of amongst a bunch of other |
13437s | minion like wild seed minions uh airline |
13441s | is coming down soon but turn five is |
13443s | pretty late for face hunters so i feel |
13446s | like this isn't exactly the sort of |
13448s | start that pharath was looking for um |
13451s | maybe he's wishing he would have played |
13453s | the doggy skit but at the same time you |
13455s | can't have known that there's freezing |
13456s | trap there |
13458s | but things are just slow enough wire i |
13460s | suspect we'll be able to comfortably |
13462s | clear all of this |
13465s | another barb nest it's really nice this |
13467s | is |
13468s | zero mana hero power available on this |
13471s | turn |
13472s | and uh |
13473s | potentially actually tavish on turn five |
13476s | right if he goes wound prey barbed |
13478s | barbed coin explosive and all of them |
13481s | get their effect uh i think that's just |
13483s | tavish next turn |
13485s | yeah might be willing to just present |
13487s | that threat too |
13489s | and it it makes your hero power free |
13491s | which at this point is dealing for you |
13492s | can just hold on to that because yeah |
13494s | such a great removal tool once it can |
13497s | target i think this is a match where |
13499s | certainly early on you're happy to have |
13501s | a hero power that can just help you |
13502s | remove things |
13506s | oh it's so tempting isn't it like it's |
13509s | probably more responsible to just uh |
13512s | save the coin until post tavish because |
13515s | you don't actually have any card draw in |
13517s | hand right now there's no way to |
13518s | guarantee you're gonna have a whole |
13519s | bunch of quest procs uh |
13521s | so i do like the line it looks like he's |
13523s | leaning towards it just going freezing |
13525s | trap and slowing down a little bit on |
13526s | the quest completion |
13528s | yeah i mean i almost wonder if you go |
13531s | explosive |
13533s | and and |
13534s | not coin out the barb nets just kind of |
13536s | okay bait the opponent right so they |
13538s | don't know what you've got |
13540s | it could be a freezing so perhaps that |
13543s | holds them off but if they do just |
13544s | attack into it like you see here |
13548s | you can |
13549s | play barbnet's coin and play the quest |
13551s | reward in the same turn still got the |
13552s | four damage hero power back up |
13555s | and this does still actually allow for |
13559s | tavish here right i believe with uh yeah |
13562s | bob next coin tavish and |
13566s | uh i think he even has an upgraded hero |
13568s | power in terms of the damage right from |
13570s | the aimed shot uh so i think this is |
13572s | ball as well which would allow him to |
13574s | yeah clear off the bear as well so all |
13576s | things considered as long as he doesn't |
13578s | draw completely dead from here on in |
13580s | this is such a good start to the game |
13582s | for wyra like turn five tavish is so |
13585s | rare |
13586s | yeah very rare and very nice to have |
13588s | against a face hunter still sitting |
13590s | comfortably at 27 even if you look at |
13593s | six facing you down the board here i |
13595s | think there's plenty of opportunity to |
13598s | get great top decks multicaster |
13600s | currently drawing at least two cards |
13602s | which is reasonable of course a furious |
13605s | howl would be an incredible top deck at |
13607s | this point |
13613s | just flooding the board for a hunter or |
13617s | well they're both hunters but pharah |
13619s | collateral damage not really doing |
13621s | anything in this matchup so wire |
13624s | probably gonna have a a pretty strong |
13626s | read on that card |
13628s | i think so and mark's shot |
13630s | is one of the better top decks i think |
13632s | you could be finding it's no howl but |
13634s | it's uh very much the next best thing |
13639s | yeah not even bothering to use any hero |
13641s | powers on the one one i think just gonna |
13643s | put the freezing trap down |
13645s | oh |
13646s | dragon bane is bad but is it that bad |
13650s | i |
13651s | think it's probably too bad i'm just |
13654s | thinking yeah yeah am shot is reliable |
13657s | good chunk of damage |
13659s | what a fall from grace dragon bane shot |
13661s | was such a sick card |
13663s | i you know i think it had to be done |
13666s | because it was just it was just such a |
13668s | powerhouse right i mean you don't |
13670s | usually think of two mana deal two as as |
13673s | that big a deal but when you could just |
13675s | clear entire boards with that and your |
13678s | hero power it was getting out of hand |
13686s | okay so ice trap is the pick here |
13688s | instead of freezing it makes sense the |
13691s | one one comes down again pretty easily |
13692s | but you can use ice to still |
13695s | you know bounce any spell that would |
13697s | buff it such as a doggie biscuit or you |
13699s | know a ramming mouth that could come |
13700s | down |
13702s | looking like a pretty solid position you |
13704s | know the stag wakes up soon but |
13707s | i gotta imagine without having any |
13709s | targets for collateral damage it'll be |
13711s | very tough for pharath to get the burst |
13713s | to close things out |
13714s | yeah so i do think you have to trade |
13716s | here i |
13717s | think the only draw that can pull him |
13719s | back into the game now is |
13722s | oh my god off the top |
13726s | okay now we're talking all of a sudden |
13728s | the race is back on |
13731s | yeah and this freezing trap is not |
13734s | looking too great at this point so i |
13737s | think wire is maybe just going to go |
13739s | into full race mode and say okay you've |
13740s | drawn some things |
13742s | the weapon wakes up next turn but we |
13745s | want to try and close things out before |
13747s | they get two swings of it that would be |
13750s | my thinking if i rewire right here |
13751s | tracking great tool to do that because |
13754s | it's huge one refresh and finds you |
13756s | another |
13759s | all right so what are we looking for |
13760s | multicaster |
13762s | furious howell barrett cotto bain even |
13764s | just another like uh |
13767s | quick shot aim shot like anything that |
13769s | just does a little bit more damage |
13770s | you'll have to yeah i just want another |
13772s | aimed shot right this freezing you're |
13775s | just using to maybe save you a little |
13777s | life but |
13778s | i think you take any damage you can find |
13780s | to just increase that clock speed |
13784s | and do we have enough with just this |
13786s | turn can we set it up you got |
13788s | two four six eight ten |
13790s | [Music] |
13791s | another five off the aimed shots |
13796s | you can set it up a two turn yeah i |
13798s | count we're not dead |
13801s | i think it's |
13804s | a pretty safe bet you're not dead they |
13807s | have six on board four from the weapon |
13809s | that i think wakes up this term as well |
13814s | so they have to find 14 from hand i |
13817s | think that's just a bit out of range |
13820s | yeah i mean we're staring at aim shot is |
13823s | five quick shots three barb nets two |
13826s | so that's just ten |
13832s | i don't think it's |
13833s | enough i mean obviously farrath right |
13835s | now is thinking this is explosive trap |
13837s | and i've lost the game but you know you |
13838s | don't play in that universe anyway |
13840s | because |
13841s | you've lost no matter what if it's |
13842s | explosive traps so |
13844s | i mean you lost no matter what anyway it |
13845s | doesn't matter the game is over because |
13846s | it just doesn't have enough damage |
13849s | yeah the twin bow if you had a little |
13851s | more time would be great because that |
13853s | unaided shot is just an insane amount of |
13855s | damage but it's just a little |
13858s | too late in terms of the draw there |
13861s | collateral damage |
13863s | being a little embarrassing in hand but |
13865s | what can you do |
13867s | and |
13867s | you know hunter v hunter always closes |
13870s | out relatively quickly because of the |
13871s | burst |
13877s | a valiant effort but falling down to |
13879s | wires quest hunter uh attack but i'm |
13882s | still kind of undecided on to be honest |
13884s | against decks like this where it's |
13886s | mainly a bit of a board battle uh i'm |
13888s | fully on board with quest hunter i think |
13890s | it's doing exactly what it should be |
13891s | doing there but against the likes of |
13893s | druid shaman uh where there's a little |
13895s | bit of healing even mage now with the |
13897s | cold case and the |
13898s | uh the hero card as well it's still very |
13901s | much undecided but wire made a super |
13904s | convincing case |
13905s | for the deck there |
13907s | yeah i think it's just one of the few |
13909s | from hand decks currently available to |
13911s | players which is why we've seen so much |
13913s | of it |
13914s | i'm not quite sure how it's been |
13916s | performing overall but that i have to |
13918s | guess is the thinking obviously not very |
13921s | great against druid because they just |
13923s | start going into two powerful things |
13925s | that you're unable to clear |
13927s | couple hunters have added |
13929s | urchin spines as sort of a nod to those |
13932s | bigger minions perhaps from vile library |
13934s | as well |
13935s | but for the most part i think you're |
13936s | just hoping to get a little bit more |
13938s | percentage points against stuff like |
13940s | shaman and mage even if they have more |
13942s | life the healing in general i think in |
13945s | this meta is relatively low just because |
13948s | the one priest is naga priest and |
13950s | there's really no paladins to be |
13954s | [Music] |
13959s | seen all right heading over to the uh to |
13962s | the next game |
13963s | we can see uh |
13966s | all right what is leftover for wire now |
13968s | he's got his uh mage and druid uh i |
13970s | believe the druid one that i'm really |
13973s | really excited to see but the mage first |
13975s | of all i think is just the much more |
13977s | uh standard 40 card version of mage with |
13981s | uh actually i will admit a couple of |
13983s | spicy picks in there for uh for big |
13985s | spell mage |
13987s | yeah absolutely it's that wire spice |
13990s | dispossessed soul both in the the big |
13992s | spell mage and in the shaman it's just |
13996s | i don't know how this plays it makes |
13998s | some sense to me if you've got a three |
14000s | durability location it does actually |
14001s | stick around for quite a while so with |
14004s | two of them you know that's sort of |
14007s | i guess 12 total turns you could have a |
14009s | location in play if they're not in play |
14012s | at the same time at all and discovering |
14014s | a copy of a card in your deck can be |
14017s | quite powerful particularly if you're |
14018s | looking for say an extra copy of |
14020s | mordrish or denathrius in the shaman |
14024s | i really want to see how this plays |
14026s | because it's a card i've definitely had |
14028s | my eye on |
14031s | i wonder like i'm kind of thinking in my |
14033s | head if they printed a four man of four |
14035s | or five |
14036s | discover a copy of a card in your deck |
14038s | like yeah i guess that would probably |
14040s | seem play in some decks but like i |
14042s | wouldn't be ecstatic about playing that |
14043s | card right it's still a four minute four |
14045s | five which in today's hearthstone is a |
14047s | little |
14048s | a little underwhelming overall but i |
14049s | guess i guess if it's giving you |
14051s | consistency in finding uh barbara |
14054s | barbara |
14055s | belinda the hero card as well |
14058s | i can see the thinking but i'm very much |
14060s | yet to be convinced |
14062s | it's sort of odd right you both |
14064s | you don't really run it unless you're a |
14066s | 40 card deck |
14067s | and if you're a 40 card deck you're less |
14069s | likely to consistently see any given |
14071s | thing so |
14074s | i don't know my thinking is that it |
14076s | would in at least increase consistency a |
14078s | little bit but if it's just turned off |
14080s | because you don't have your location |
14081s | anyway |
14082s | then maybe not |
14084s | we'll see whether it comes up or not in |
14086s | this match-up but the curve otherwise |
14087s | looks pretty solid just in terms of |
14089s | night cloak sanctum deep water evoker |
14092s | up here ready for later it's just a |
14094s | matter of can you endure this |
14096s | early pressure from the wild seeds |
14100s | which currently right now is a uh a very |
14102s | good question it's not really clear one |
14104s | way or the other he has a lot of the |
14106s | very good cards that you want to see in |
14108s | the starting hand nike looks like a |
14110s | fantastic apprentice especially if you |
14112s | can find the wildfire can just solo you |
14114s | the early game |
14116s | uh but farath is not slowing down with |
14118s | another wild spirits to follow up this |
14121s | is a lot of pressure |
14123s | yeah the bears are going to wake up |
14124s | right away and i think pharath is hoping |
14126s | that at least one of these spirits |
14128s | summoned is going to be the stag |
14131s | you know a lot of why hunter doesn't |
14133s | really run the weapon in the face deck |
14135s | anymore is just because you get them off |
14138s | the wild seeds half the time so it |
14140s | messes with things if you're actually |
14142s | running a natural weapon as well |
14149s | i'm curious why you freeze the trog here |
14152s | can you think of something |
14154s | i guess the trug is the more likely to |
14156s | be buffed |
14157s | uh and it also means that |
14160s | uh |
14161s | you trade him with a two two kill off |
14163s | the troll yeah i think it's mainly just |
14164s | so it can't be hit with |
14166s | ramming mountain and uh traded in that |
14168s | way |
14171s | and so that you know next turn if they |
14172s | hit the other thing with rounding mount |
14174s | then you have ping plus apprentice to |
14175s | kill it off |
14176s | right right |
14178s | yeah i mean not the most effective card |
14181s | against big spell mage they do run |
14183s | you know |
14185s | some spells but not a ton to be |
14187s | proliferating the trog i think the |
14189s | biggest thing it's doing here is keeping |
14191s | that coin sort of in check |
14194s | although uh if a |
14195s | deathborn comes up i forget if that is |
14197s | in this list i guess this isn't the full |
14200s | big spell mage is it right it's just |
14201s | sort of |
14203s | somewhere in between |
14208s | yeah it's true |
14211s | oh no we have we have got |
14213s | this you know it's just that wire spice |
14215s | all over again you've got |
14217s | gold shire nulls in here i guess his |
14219s | extra cleanup tool you do have the |
14221s | belinda barbaric rune all that stuff |
14225s | uh but then |
14227s | suspicious alchemists to find early game |
14229s | spells |
14232s | couple cops yeah starfish |
14234s | i do like the knot i think that's |
14236s | actually a bit of a throwback i think |
14237s | habigabu was playing ram commanders and |
14239s | knolls towards the start of big spell |
14241s | mage's uh |
14244s | lifespan which was obviously before |
14245s | renethal but when you have renathal in |
14247s | there |
14249s | i guess it makes sense you have a lot of |
14250s | extra card slots to work with and you |
14253s | know null is just a really strong |
14256s | card when you're not playing many cards |
14257s | at the start of your game like wire is |
14260s | and a lot of them discover you extra |
14262s | cards anyway like the uh the mailbox |
14264s | dancer let's give you an extra coin it |
14266s | makes sense to me uh and i think if it |
14269s | was drawn at any point here you'd be |
14270s | very happy to see it |
14273s | yeah i think this tournament has kind of |
14274s | messed with all our brains in terms of |
14276s | what are considered which archetype |
14278s | because we have so many hybrids floating |
14280s | around we have both big spelmage and |
14283s | spooky mage and then few people have |
14286s | done a strange mixture of the two where |
14288s | you don't have some of the chidi cards |
14290s | like barbaric and belinda but you are |
14292s | still running rune of the archmage and |
14295s | blizzard i guess so it's kind of all |
14298s | kinds of mixed up uh imp warlock |
14301s | sometimes having curses sometimes not as |
14304s | well this has been a |
14306s | very strange tournament in terms of what |
14309s | we're supposed to call any given deck |
14312s | very true |
14314s | but for right now i think this is just |
14316s | starting to spiral out of control for |
14320s | pharah he's got one final push here from |
14322s | the looks of it he can click ignite |
14324s | because it's the only one he wants but i |
14326s | don't think he's going to get it because |
14328s | wyra wouldn't even take a chance |
14330s | of giving him ignite |
14332s | but then from there you have one final |
14334s | push as i said ramming mount doggy |
14335s | biscuit barb nets get that damage in |
14337s | while you can push it face but at 26 |
14339s | with the hero card yet to come roon |
14341s | mordresh all these powerhouse plays |
14343s | coming down i think verath is uh |
14346s | approaching the end of this game |
14350s | yeah the wild spirits are you know great |
14352s | early but the later and later you go the |
14355s | more you're sort of frustrated with that |
14357s | dormant time period |
14358s | and uh you know mages even on the |
14361s | controlling side of things can get |
14362s | pretty aggressive as soon as magister |
14365s | dawngrass comes down and just by the |
14367s | nature of the volatile skeletons |
14374s | probably the best role there i think |
14375s | you're glad not to have another bear |
14387s | yeah i agreed |
14392s | ramming mount is nice but you can't even |
14394s | afford to take advantage of its trading |
14396s | utility |
14398s | yeah not at all clock is ticking |
14400s | i mean it almost makes me wonder if it |
14402s | was just more worth it to go hero power |
14404s | there plus click clocker i i guess this |
14406s | is just a slightly stickier board |
14407s | overall so it |
14409s | does make a decent amount of sense uh |
14411s | but it's certainly not going to be |
14413s | winning him the game right now |
14416s | how still a fair amount of stats in play |
14419s | you know between four seven three five |
14422s | you gotta imagine if something is |
14423s | sticking to then land this doggie |
14425s | biscuit next turn uh this is a ton of |
14427s | armor though |
14428s | i think that's |
14430s | really not what ferrath wanted to see |
14432s | just picking up the drake fire amulet |
14434s | even if it gets traded right away you |
14436s | know it's done its job 10 armor |
14438s | uh we can |
14441s | how close are we to mordrish |
14444s | because the reckless apprentice was |
14445s | played but there's been no wildfires |
14448s | i think we're like three or four away |
14449s | still it's uh |
14451s | yeah because there were like three or |
14453s | four minions here he's pinned a couple |
14455s | times yeah i don't think that's a win |
14457s | condition quite yet |
14459s | that is an |
14460s | interesting top deck though right |
14464s | yeah i like trying to set up for that |
14467s | you can |
14469s | i mean so you won't get the nag |
14471s | activation with barb nets i feel like |
14473s | that never right |
14474s | um |
14475s | but you can |
14476s | you pick up let's see we never want to |
14479s | double the coin either |
14481s | i feel like you have to trade the donkey |
14482s | biscuit that's just for you |
14486s | okay okay double doggy okay yeah yeah |
14488s | yeah |
14489s | it's all in |
14491s | here i wonder i i kind of |
14495s | maybe that was supposed to be you just |
14496s | pray that you draw the best card ever |
14498s | off the top and you get to double that |
14500s | like maybe |
14502s | i don't know like say collateral damage |
14503s | doesn't really work anymore but aim shot |
14505s | could have done something |
14507s | in the end though he's just going all |
14509s | all in here and it's relying on the rune |
14512s | of the arc page for wyra of course to |
14515s | swing this one back |
14517s | it all comes down to this inevitably |
14519s | when you're a big spell mage polymorph |
14521s | probably the worst target there |
14524s | um |
14525s | all these spells are required to hit |
14527s | opposing minions which is what has made |
14529s | this card a bit better than |
14531s | the |
14532s | yog boxes of old where you truly had no |
14535s | idea where they were gonna land |
14537s | uh counterspell pretty great pick up |
14540s | there |
14542s | even if it does nothing else you get to |
14544s | freeze the remaining minion |
14548s | i really like trading away the 1-1 there |
14550s | as well just to play around collateral |
14551s | damage like i think he's realizing this |
14553s | game is very approach uh very rapidly |
14556s | approaching him winning uh so we just |
14558s | need to play around any outs whatsoever |
14560s | and he should be fine |
14561s | as uh |
14562s | [Music] |
14563s | right now we're on for a uh |
14565s | another go just parrot and box number |
14568s | two |
14570s | maybe you could also just try and get |
14571s | the barbaric sorceress down knowing your |
14573s | opponent has no spells there's |
14575s | effectively no downside so you could put |
14576s | a taunt in the way but yeah it's not |
14579s | really high enough value with only one |
14581s | freeze available so |
14583s | go again |
14585s | the barrier is massive and cold case as |
14588s | well |
14594s | extra counter spell so that's that's |
14595s | face up now |
14597s | oh my god the freeze every time pharah |
14600s | you poor man |
14603s | i mean this is just kind of |
14605s | what happens right rune of the archmage |
14607s | is |
14608s | so very likely to do something that you |
14611s | know |
14611s | maybe gives you a couple secrets clears |
14613s | a bit of the board at the very least |
14615s | freezes things |
14617s | it's just turned out to be |
14619s | so powerful for these mages to the point |
14621s | that some of the skeleton mages that are |
14624s | going 40 cards are just running rune |
14625s | without barbaric or belinda |
14632s | okay |
14633s | oh the counter spell as well like it's |
14636s | the best top deck in his deck but it's |
14637s | still just not good enough is it |
14639s | when he knows that there's a counter |
14641s | spell because it was rolled over both |
14643s | runes |
14644s | so you know |
14645s | sad news i mean |
14647s | maybe you even just don't cast it until |
14650s | you can cast it with something else |
14654s | i feel like this is always sort of an |
14656s | odd spot to be in as something like a |
14657s | face hunter where |
14660s | you know they're not going to kill you |
14661s | for a while |
14662s | but you're also just sort of like well |
14664s | but where do i go from here |
14667s | it's it's just at what point do you |
14669s | finally decide it's too much and you've |
14671s | got to concede |
14673s | i think right about now |
14678s | oh the uh |
14680s | lesser spotted re-damage ping as well |
14683s | you don't see that but yeah why are |
14685s | finally throwing it down as i struggle |
14686s | for anything interesting to talk about |
14687s | in that end game that was thoroughly |
14689s | over at that point in the series why are |
14691s | two games up to zero uh and at the uh |
14695s | the four one score line we believe both |
14697s | our players are rocking right now here |
14699s | in round six |
14701s | uh a loss pretty much puts them out of |
14703s | contention uh to making it through to |
14705s | the top 16. very very unlikely at the |
14707s | very least you have to get some really |
14709s | good tie breakers uh to be making it |
14711s | through at which point it's fully out of |
14713s | your hands and so for wire a single |
14715s | extra win puts him through to a very |
14717s | good position for top 16 but for pharath |
14719s | he is on his final lifeline right now |
14722s | one more loss and his hopes of the top |
14724s | 16 are pretty much dashed |
14728s | yeah and that's always the thing you |
14729s | hoped for but at that point you can sort |
14730s | of say all right well we're not making |
14733s | top 16 we'll do our best to qualify |
14735s | for the final master's tour of the year |
14738s | and that's what you've got to go for in |
14741s | terms of winning out end of 6-2 |
14744s | uh |
14744s | not not the dream but |
14746s | something to still play for |
14747s | [Music] |
14750s | all right so now finally just the druid |
14752s | left over and i gotta say when i saw |
14754s | this deck in uh over solari party which |
14757s | as i said jambre brought a very similar |
14759s | list subtly different i think there were |
14761s | a couple of less spells he was playing |
14764s | to get a little bit more consistency in |
14766s | going nightshade bud in to convoke the |
14770s | spirits |
14771s | but the same core of the deck was very |
14773s | much there where you run basically no |
14775s | spells almost all minions |
14778s | and then you try and hit the combo of |
14780s | green thumb gardener which refreshes |
14783s | mana crystals equal to the most |
14785s | expensive card in your hand so in this |
14787s | deck you pretty much always get a zero |
14789s | mana four or five whatever it is on the |
14791s | turn you play it five five sorry and |
14793s | then you play kale fast and then you |
14795s | play something really really big and you |
14797s | hope to win the game you've got a lot of |
14798s | them in the deck alex devourer and nyxia |
14801s | neptulon and danathrius as well all |
14804s | would do absolutely fine it's such a |
14807s | cool deck i don't even think he was |
14808s | running barbaric sorceresses in there |
14810s | which uh wyra has now tossed in as well |
14813s | just for a little bit of extra high roll |
14814s | potential uh but yeah trust me this deck |
14817s | is just pure it's a content machine |
14820s | you're never going to run out of clips |
14821s | if you're playing this on stream |
14823s | it's it's a little bit of extra hyrule |
14825s | and it's a little bit of disruption |
14826s | right because convoke the spirits you |
14828s | know 10 mana sometimes you just make |
14831s | something important for your opponent |
14832s | costs 10 and that's card they're unable |
14834s | to use the rest of the time |
14836s | so really excited to see this i uh did |
14838s | not watch soldiery party early so this |
14840s | is very fresh and new for me |
14845s | up against face hunter though |
14849s | doubts severe doubts i've got to be |
14851s | honest there's no ramp there or much |
14853s | more limited ramp in the the start turns |
14856s | yes you're running a much more dense |
14858s | minion package at the uh the start you |
14861s | have as we can see a druid at the reef |
14863s | jerry mailbox uh brand starfish park |
14866s | panther |
14867s | it can be good enough but it's only like |
14870s | a quarter of the deck maybe less |
14872s | actually that is uh these really really |
14874s | cheap plays so you're far from |
14876s | guaranteed to find them uh even though |
14879s | right now wyra has actually got a decent |
14881s | enough starting hand |
14884s | mean the deck doesn't run wild growth |
14886s | like you said you know limiting the |
14888s | total spell count to increase |
14889s | consistency of fine and convoke the |
14891s | spirits but uh lots of early game |
14895s | minions they're not sort of the most |
14897s | premium early game minions but it's |
14899s | something to do against face hunter |
14900s | which is sometimes more than most ramp |
14902s | druids can save themselves park panther |
14904s | especially just such a great tool for |
14906s | clearing the board |
14908s | uh i almost wonder if you'll see |
14910s | starfish come down on three just to |
14913s | be a two-four i don't know |
14917s | often the silliest thing i've ever heard |
14920s | having casted with raven before |
14923s | [Laughter] |
14925s | well |
14927s | if there is just enough time because of |
14929s | being 40 life etc and barbaric sorceress |
14932s | is a three seven taunt |
14935s | we've got that nightshade butt in hand |
14937s | we may well see |
14939s | barack cotibane come down |
14941s | and then it's followed by a sorceress |
14943s | from wire and and |
14945s | [Music] |
14946s | you know |
14947s | we'll see what the spirits have to say |
14948s | about this game i guess |
14952s | oh that'd be so sick i'm just gonna have |
14954s | a one more look through the list i can't |
14955s | remember if it's guaranteed that you get |
14958s | a bud because how many spells are |
14960s | there's nourish |
14961s | scale |
14964s | innovate miracle growth |
14966s | and convert so there's a chance that |
14969s | uh juarez misses on the nightshade bud |
14971s | but he's only running one bud uh which |
14973s | means that he can't hit the same one |
14975s | again |
14976s | well and if you hit |
14978s | scale |
14979s | are you are you that sad about it right |
14982s | if you get barbaric sorceress three |
14984s | seven taunt and and now you've got a |
14986s | scale of enyxia i don't think you're |
14987s | that unhappy agreed |
14989s | uh what does make you quite unhappy is |
14991s | uh rapping mount on turn three when they |
14993s | already have a pretty much unbeatable |
14995s | board that is gonna push a lot of damage |
14999s | face and not even lose one uh one iota |
15002s | of the current board presence |
15004s | yeah gonna have to use that park panther |
15006s | just to clear up the mounts uh |
15008s | potentially both sides of the mount |
15011s | true yeah |
15016s | i think you you want as much trade |
15018s | potential as possible |
15021s | maybe |
15022s | value so that they have to kill the |
15024s | panther right you can actually take more |
15026s | damage off the board by just ignoring |
15029s | the |
15030s | mounted minion |
15034s | leaves yourself vulnerable to a few |
15035s | things but but |
15037s | yeah i guess that is the case sometimes |
15039s | you could take advantage of the fact |
15040s | that people |
15041s | want to get the value out of the immune |
15043s | attack and just use it as a way of |
15045s | gaining life |
15048s | i |
15049s | think you're supposed to trade into the |
15051s | 4-4 here because even though |
15053s | mitigating the damage is very very |
15055s | important in this match-up you're |
15056s | actually looking to win back board right |
15059s | in the near future it's it's not about |
15061s | just stalling out forever |
15063s | and trying to ramp up to infinity and |
15065s | then you know play uh and nyxia and |
15067s | denaturius on the same turn or whatever |
15069s | like you're doing the ramp versions of |
15070s | druid you need to be a little bit more |
15072s | honest about it for the moment you're |
15073s | just playing one or two minutes a turn |
15077s | clearly wire disagrees it might save him |
15078s | a lot more health in the long run but it |
15080s | means there's a very very tough to kill |
15082s | minions sticking around on the board |
15086s | and |
15088s | nothing really to do this turn i guess |
15090s | it's theater |
15091s | what do you even take i guess |
15095s | to get rid of the wild spirits you sort |
15097s | of want them to have a spell |
15099s | they've so much they don't have much |
15101s | room on board though right like |
15104s | i guess they could trade a couple of |
15105s | them in and then go for arrow |
15108s | it's it's risky to take the barb nets i |
15110s | think is the main thing because you want |
15112s | that to be in their hand no matter what |
15114s | they do |
15121s | jerry rigg of course does nothing for |
15123s | any other class since they have no |
15125s | choose one cards |
15132s | i mean |
15133s | i i like getting a stack sooner rather |
15135s | than later great |
15140s | oh yeah look at that so clean the full |
15143s | distribution all of them |
15145s | well it's dad coming soon but uh yeah |
15148s | all the spirits on board there |
15150s | and |
15152s | now we get we get to see the barbaric |
15154s | sorceress and and find out if it's going |
15156s | to be enough to save wire here because |
15159s | uh we're falling behind |
15162s | extra 5'5 for good measure yeah except |
15165s | he knows right because the the barb nets |
15167s | was played uh like it turns out the |
15169s | counter to bob was was just bob all |
15172s | along because |
15173s | uh he knows the two cards in hand |
15175s | because he spied the hand he gave the |
15176s | jerry rig as well so it's just not an |
15179s | option this is the only play available |
15180s | and just has to pray that by some |
15183s | miracle he can survive until turn eight |
15185s | and then just hard cast it |
15187s | well the boomkin pickup is actually |
15189s | quite good for that right either using |
15191s | it for four damage on the 5-4 or for the |
15194s | eight healing |
15195s | um you know airline was not a terrible |
15198s | pickup in that way as well because the |
15200s | 3-1 rush comes comes into effect of |
15203s | course you know four or five to fight on |
15205s | board it's not great but it is you know |
15207s | something |
15208s | uh might be able to just buy enough time |
15210s | to play the nightshade on eight |
15213s | and i believe this is every hearthstone |
15215s | player's least favorite phrase to hear |
15217s | one damage off lethal because if i count |
15220s | it correctly he is uh |
15223s | yeah the closest you can be without |
15225s | actually getting there which should be |
15227s | enough it should be close enough here to |
15229s | be the difference maker but like you |
15230s | said the boomkin and i don't know what |
15233s | else you could you get there's no |
15236s | uh |
15239s | sorry there's no earthen scales of |
15240s | course which is the one you'd really be |
15241s | looking for innovate i guess was the top |
15243s | deck right to go nightshade bud into the |
15246s | box |
15248s | yeah i think just with the hunter hero |
15250s | power and that weapon there's really no |
15251s | outs you're forced to heal off the boom |
15253s | kin and then you just can't clear enough |
15255s | of the board so really heads up play |
15257s | from fair out making sure to get rid of |
15260s | the barb nets you know it's not a |
15262s | guarantee that they have the sorceress |
15264s | in hand although i think you can kind of |
15265s | take the signal of the barb nets not |
15268s | having been taken that that's what your |
15269s | opponent is trying to do because it |
15271s | otherwise looked pretty clean to take |
15273s | the barb nets and use it immediately on |
15275s | the board |
15278s | interesting game |
15280s | and i think probably the best deck out |
15282s | of the way for |
15284s | barra in terms of the rest of his lineup |
15286s | uh the |
15288s | warlock that he has is |
15292s | a little bit more of a weird one it's |
15293s | like half imp warlock but it has just a |
15295s | very clunky top end with |
15298s | uh chao that's gigafin and atherius uh |
15302s | yes to close out at the top but it is |
15304s | essentially just still the imp package |
15305s | which should as well actually i guess be |
15307s | pretty good against the druid um |
15310s | really only |
15311s | oh that was banned away sorry okay so is |
15313s | the hunter uh the rogue and the uh the |
15316s | shaman left over apologies uh which i |
15318s | think both have me talking about this |
15320s | new development in warlock that so many |
15322s | are doing which is using |
15324s | kale those to get out some top end |
15325s | either gigafin or denathrius murlocula |
15328s | is there as an infuse you can get to be |
15330s | zero mana so you can actually play kale |
15332s | those on curve and then a zero mana |
15334s | molecular to get out one of the big |
15336s | things kind of a new development in the |
15339s | poor lock space but it is going to be |
15341s | that |
15343s | tempo rogue i think was the best thing |
15345s | from our options but we've been calling |
15347s | it lambie rogue the creator of the deck |
15349s | a really sweet list |
15351s | shroud of concealment specifically |
15352s | targeting drawing you know wild pawn |
15354s | knolls or necklord or |
15357s | edwin as a main source of card draw and |
15360s | then it's just make a big minion or a |
15362s | big weapon with sin stone graveyard |
15365s | go in there |
15366s | it's a deck i'm not necessarily going to |
15368s | say is |
15370s | really top tier but it's definitely a |
15372s | deck i really like it suits my style of |
15374s | play very very much so it's got a really |
15376s | nice mix between uh combo and tempo |
15379s | between saving up your resources for one |
15382s | big burst versus just playing cards |
15384s | every single turn both strategies |
15386s | depending on the match up have a lot of |
15388s | merit uh and it'll be interesting to see |
15391s | which way pharah goes about it does keep |
15394s | tracker in the starting hand which i |
15396s | don't know about you but that's a card |
15397s | that i've been kind of going back and |
15399s | forth on whether or not i like actually |
15401s | keeping it in the starting hand |
15404s | yeah it's interesting if you have the |
15405s | tools to go with it it can just sort of |
15407s | solo some matches uh the warlock hero |
15410s | power is massive pickup oh yeah for |
15413s | making that happen because you're able |
15415s | to just draw some cards on those early |
15418s | turns uh we might even so still see |
15422s | something like a coin shroud |
15424s | up against a druid maybe you've got some |
15426s | more breathing room to kind of just take |
15428s | it slow save your coin tap |
15431s | shroud next turn |
15433s | even if you get a zero man and all you |
15435s | just don't play it and kind of go all in |
15437s | on that drakka play |
15439s | i think the problem is if you go coin |
15441s | shroud your nulls cost |
15443s | one which is a very very very big |
15446s | difference when compared to zero uh |
15448s | which is of course what you want them to |
15449s | cost whereas here zero man and all |
15451s | perfect yes you have to play it instead |
15453s | of being able to use it to juice up that |
15455s | drakka a little more the next turn but |
15457s | that's uh that's okay that's not a |
15459s | disaster uh the main problem with this |
15461s | hand right now is |
15463s | it looks like it's like two turns away |
15466s | from really popping off with that |
15468s | tracker on the same turn which is the uh |
15471s | the two turns that wire needs to really |
15473s | get moving on the other side of the |
15475s | board |
15476s | yeah absolutely no wild growth in the |
15478s | deck but there's still nourish and the |
15481s | uh four new new four drop |
15484s | uh |
15485s | widow bloom seeds man oh yes there we go |
15487s | with those picked up for why are able to |
15490s | get out either just this wild growth |
15492s | naturally or just go in on the barbaric |
15494s | sorceress because you know a rogue |
15496s | opponent is going to have some very |
15498s | cheap spells for you to swap with |
15504s | setting up the simstone graveyard |
15506s | presumably for some kind of pop-off next |
15508s | turn |
15510s | or maybe making a minion this turn we'll |
15512s | see |
15514s | man the options available to wire here |
15516s | though a low key just kind of disgusting |
15518s | like whether you hit growth or convoke |
15520s | the spirits you're gonna be in a great |
15522s | position but this i think is the |
15524s | absolute nuts this is the power of this |
15527s | deck |
15529s | or is it what are these spells |
15531s | what is this it's something it's uh it's |
15534s | ted's what are these |
15535s | they could be anything oh |
15537s | oh no that's five |
15542s | there we go it's it's got it got better |
15545s | oh two innervates though not really what |
15548s | you're looking for but probably still |
15550s | just enough i think if pharath was |
15553s | looking to go in on a necro-lord draka |
15555s | that possibility is uh |
15557s | no longer looking very good in the face |
15559s | of multiple seven health taunts |
15562s | yeah that was pretty below average but |
15564s | it's still more than good enough to win |
15566s | this game like you say you you'd kind of |
15568s | just pay eight mana for a uh best in |
15570s | shell there and be pretty happy about it |
15574s | and then uh probably won't matter but |
15576s | the druid of the wreath oh wait druid of |
15578s | the reef doesn't even keep the buffs |
15579s | right because it transforms |
15581s | so those gardens that got played don't |
15583s | even do anything |
15586s | they're actively bad in fact right if |
15589s | if there were |
15591s | reg yeah well there's if you pick up the |
15594s | eight mana to discover a spell from your |
15596s | deck now you've got a chance of |
15597s | discovering the sunken gardens oh that's |
15600s | true yeah |
15605s | edwin picked up with a spare shadow step |
15608s | here that i imagine is going to get |
15609s | played |
15614s | i really don't want a shadow step here i |
15615s | hate shadow stepping edwin but |
15617s | i guess you're right like the problem is |
15619s | that shadow stepping edwin in the old |
15621s | rogue deck was okay because you had mr |
15622s | smite right you could set up for |
15624s | a huge 20 damage burst combo against |
15627s | some of the slower decks especially if |
15628s | they didn't run torn |
15630s | here though it's just so brutally slow |
15634s | are you going to play it again next turn |
15635s | play some more spells again at the end |
15637s | of it you have like an 8 8 10 10 best |
15639s | case scenario |
15641s | terrible |
15643s | yeah i honestly might have been willing |
15645s | to just burn there rather than use the |
15647s | coin as well because i feel like if you |
15648s | are gonna step edwin then what you've |
15650s | got to do is work your way towards a |
15652s | coin scabs to kind of reset get that |
15655s | hero power rolling and hope you can just |
15657s | make a massive edwin that they can't do |
15659s | anything about and having gotten the |
15662s | taunts out of the way sort of force them |
15663s | to be replayed if they want to stop a |
15666s | large dagger |
15668s | this location has been here for multiple |
15669s | turns and has not been activated clearly |
15672s | not what you want is the rogue |
15674s | yeah and just look at these powerhouse |
15676s | cards coming in danathrius scale |
15679s | insatiable devourer all incredibly |
15680s | powerful cards forcing farath into |
15684s | finding |
15685s | scabs pretty much exclusively here like |
15688s | oh sorry he has it in hand which |
15689s | apologies he can go for right now very |
15691s | clever play as well to hold on to the uh |
15694s | the bone spike last turn which allows |
15697s | him to play this six mana scabs |
15699s | yeah prep bone spike makes for some |
15702s | really interesting interactions the fact |
15703s | that you can basically turn your prep |
15705s | into prep anything i think very very fun |
15709s | uh still may not be enough just because |
15711s | of the sheer |
15712s | quantity of taunts wire is still sitting |
15715s | at 40 life |
15716s | and the ability to play denathrius at |
15720s | some point could even just use starfish |
15723s | plus scale if you want to make sure you |
15726s | can clear these minions |
15728s | oh you just play your edmond don't you |
15730s | it's an 80. |
15732s | i don't think you want to get any |
15733s | greedier than that sizzle |
15737s | yep i can't hold on but that edwin play |
15741s | opens up |
15742s | devourer right |
15744s | it does yeah um i'm looking at people |
15748s | out a little bit more |
15749s | uh because with scale coming down now uh |
15752s | and then the other silence as well yeah |
15754s | i mean |
15755s | it's just the line he finds it straight |
15756s | away right it juices up to nathrius |
15758s | juices up the devourer uh chao that's |
15761s | being burned hurts a little because bran |
15764s | danatharius is now a long way off you'd |
15766s | have to find guff and then ramp a bit |
15768s | first as well uh but the headline is |
15770s | still very much that wire is just |
15772s | sitting at 40 health right and uh look |
15775s | at his hand |
15778s | yeah it's all juice in there you know |
15780s | honestly |
15781s | barring hitting exactly the spell that |
15784s | you already debuffed to 10 mana you |
15786s | could just sorceress again and figure 5 |
15788s | mana swap is going to be more expensive |
15791s | than any spell that the rogue |
15793s | runs just as a little bit of a |
15795s | disruption |
15802s | so many resources having to be committed |
15804s | here maybe you just need to tooth and |
15806s | find something |
15811s | i like that plan let's just hope for a |
15813s | miracle |
15816s | i mean that is the other uh name of the |
15819s | archetype as you know in a sense the |
15820s | miracle rogue not full in on gadgets but |
15823s | it is sort of just |
15825s | do stuff and hope it's enough |
15828s | but do stuff rogue thanksgiving |
15837s | [Music] |
15838s | gold |
15839s | yeah coat of cold is the best one but |
15841s | not exactly what you're looking for |
15844s | here powered tracker that doesn't even |
15846s | do that much it's not like a four four |
15848s | attack weapon i think |
15850s | yeah |
15853s | yep just more more minions uh you do |
15858s | ah that might have been a misplacement |
15860s | on |
15861s | location because it does always summon |
15864s | to the one side so |
15866s | you could have placed the location so |
15868s | that |
15869s | not all of these could have been eaten |
15871s | but as it stands devour just coming in |
15874s | massive there uh not that you're even in |
15876s | huge dangers hitting at 35 as is the |
15879s | druid um |
15880s | but |
15881s | you know one attack of that thing |
15884s | you can prevent it with the cone of coal |
15885s | but it's it's still coming |
15888s | and i think we're just going to see |
15890s | devourer plus an atherius ending up |
15892s | being the |
15893s | closing line of this match |
15896s | if nothing else i gotta say farah's |
15898s | facial expressions have been so |
15899s | perfectly representative of how i felt |
15901s | every time something like this happened |
15903s | to me he's just nailed it exactly like |
15905s | oh i just made a huge misplay |
15907s | but i'm just kind of getting high rolled |
15909s | so i'm gonna yeah you know whatever it |
15912s | happens |
15913s | not my fault |
15915s | yeah 40 life sneaky |
15918s | bunch of big minions what do you get |
15921s | and there it is the series goes to wyra |
15923s | and i do want to mention as well not |
15926s | that it's definitively right or wrong at |
15928s | all but just another interesting point |
15929s | in the uh the debate i was having there |
15931s | at the start dracker kept in the |
15933s | starting hand wasn't played for the |
15935s | entire game just sat there in hand doing |
15938s | absolutely nothing and yes he missed out |
15941s | on a couple of those key |
15943s | early cards that activate it the uh the |
15946s | cutlass to be trading away and cheapen |
15947s | your spells i don't know a couple of |
15949s | preps maybe uh in order to get more down |
15952s | at the same time but it still was just a |
15954s | completely useless card here and uh not |
15957s | a card that i personally favor keeping |
15960s | yeah i have to agree you know if you can |
15962s | find stuff like the cutlass early and |
15964s | just get those trades then you're not |
15965s | worried about |
15966s | playing an early shroud right because |
15969s | your nulls are discounted so it maybe it |
15971s | just shifts the dynamic of the game and |
15973s | all comes down turn earlier i do think |
15975s | with the ramp that wire had that it may |
15978s | not have mattered but absolutely i think |
15981s | keeping something like necklace renekal |
15983s | or draca is is very risky in the deck |
15988s | indeed indeed uh and so with that said i |
15992s | believe |
15993s | um we have a little bit more uh to come |
15997s | from this round uh unless i'm very much |
16000s | mistaken uh before we get round seven |
16003s | ready approaching the end of the uh the |
16005s | day's action here uh but taking a look |
16007s | at the match we have now i think it's |
16009s | gonna be |
16010s | cheesehead |
16012s | goose |
16013s | yeah cheesehead and wet goose man what a |
16015s | couple they would make |
16017s | if we were to further the discussion |
16018s | from earlier with cheesehead about |
16020s | people embodying their names this would |
16022s | be quite the strange one |
16024s | yeah indeed just the |
16026s | block of gouda on top of his shoulders |
16030s | but yeah not a player that i'm overly |
16032s | familiar with wet goose uh i have come |
16034s | across a few times before mainly just |
16035s | facing him on ladder he's one of those |
16037s | players not to shame him too heavily |
16039s | that floats around the same rank as me |
16042s | uh when i'm on the the higher side of my |
16044s | uh my range he is i think one of those |
16046s | uh overall very very strong ladder |
16048s | finishes i think he's actually |
16050s | i'm sure someone uh listening will be |
16052s | able to correct me but i think wet goose |
16054s | has like one of |
16055s | the best |
16057s | ladder win rates of uh he's got some |
16060s | stat where he's right up at the top of |
16061s | ladder like he's got the most like close |
16063s | to the most rank one finishes or top ten |
16065s | finishes some kind of claim to fame is |
16067s | for some reason popping up in my head i |
16069s | have no idea if it's correct or not but |
16071s | i think basically the point is he is a |
16072s | player you see a lot on ladder just |
16074s | because he plays an awful lot of ladder |
16076s | as his main attribute |
16078s | i just can't get out of my head the |
16080s | image of you know the aflac mascot as as |
16083s | a head and then for cheesehead |
16086s | have you ever seen in wisconsin how some |
16089s | people have these cheese head hats just |
16091s | because it's it's a very big dairy state |
16094s | in the u.s |
16095s | it's uh it's really something |
16097s | i i know that wisconsin is the dairy |
16100s | state because roz from frasier is from |
16103s | uh wisconsin and she makes a joke about |
16105s | it that's |
16106s | the closest i've ever come to wisconsin |
16108s | i think and the closest i'd like to be |
16110s | for that master as well uh but yes as we |
16113s | get settled in here we can take a look |
16114s | at both of these players decks the |
16115s | control sharpen the mid-range shaman |
16117s | whatever you want to call it here uh is |
16119s | going to be for cheesehead the pretty |
16122s | much standard list here one famished |
16124s | full slotted in there as well which i'm |
16125s | a big fan of one smothering starfish as |
16128s | well it's just a good deck right now and |
16130s | i think we're going to be seeing it a |
16131s | lot uh towards the top uh 16 as well |
16134s | yeah i think it's really the fours that |
16136s | have sort of been the flex are you |
16137s | running crud caretaker caverns or one of |
16140s | okani |
16141s | there's not a lot of flex slots but |
16144s | those have usually been where people |
16146s | mess about |
16148s | starfish like you mentioned sometimes |
16150s | you don't care about how big things are |
16152s | but in the mirror if you can just throw |
16154s | that down and your board actually gets |
16155s | to attack it's better than it |
16157s | not getting the q attack even if you get |
16159s | rid of the stats so |
16161s | starfish i think just has a lot of |
16163s | utility in this meta due to the |
16165s | prevalence of all the snowfall guardians |
16167s | and even from the mages there's a lot of |
16169s | freezes on that side as |
16171s | well uh also i do want to bring up as |
16174s | well that i think for wet goose let me |
16177s | look at his score line uh i do want to |
16179s | bring up as well because i had a little |
16180s | look at his twitter to see if he would |
16182s | have uh |
16184s | any indication to his ladder stats and |
16186s | in his bio it says uh top 16 finishes |
16189s | every month since may 2020. no idea when |
16191s | that was last updated but whenever it |
16193s | was that's pretty gosh dang impressive |
16195s | if you ask me uh and also that he is uh |
16198s | on his way out from competitive |
16199s | hearthstone i believe was just riding |
16201s | the last couple of mts that he had |
16203s | garnered himself an invite to |
16206s | uh but it's one of those things that |
16207s | always seems to happen when players say |
16209s | they want to quit hearthstone is as soon |
16211s | as they stop letting the uh the pressure |
16214s | get to them they stop wanting it so much |
16216s | and they're just like uh whatever will |
16218s | happen will happen they just start |
16219s | winning they just get out of their own |
16221s | heads and they just play the best |
16222s | hearthstone of their lives like fino |
16225s | twitchcon into uh the solari party back |
16229s | to back just nailed both of them winning |
16231s | both tournaments playing some incredible |
16232s | hearthstone all the way along the way |
16234s | because like he said you know he's just |
16236s | a streamer now he's just enjoying the |
16238s | life and because of that he played some |
16240s | of the best hearthstone of his career |
16243s | yeah absolutely i think it's very easy |
16245s | to get inside your own head and so once |
16246s | you kind of relieve that stress you can |
16248s | just move on i think also you know if |
16251s | you are this good at hearthstone |
16254s | it makes sense that at some point you |
16255s | might make a decision of hey you know i |
16257s | can do this but also i've i'm really |
16259s | smart i've got a lot of other things i |
16261s | could get into i've been doing this a |
16262s | long time maybe i'm interested in |
16264s | putting those talents elsewhere you know |
16266s | a lot of folks move on to do some really |
16268s | impressive things bunny hopper of course |
16270s | being a doctor as well oh yeah needy |
16272s | another doctor so |
16274s | lots of very very uh smart folks in the |
16277s | hearthstone community |
16279s | meaty honestly i'm starting to doubt |
16281s | whether he's a doctor like i feel like |
16283s | we might all just be being bamboozled in |
16284s | like the biggest con of all time like |
16287s | i i know he's a super smart guy but like |
16290s | i don't know man |
16291s | just just some of the tools what are the |
16292s | takes the meat man really i don't see it |
16298s | oh well i'll stop i'll stop flaming our |
16300s | players and jump into the this series |
16303s | here uh what goes on the quest hunter |
16305s | verse uh the uh the control charm the 40 |
16308s | card mid-rangey style of shaman a |
16311s | matchup that i was talking about a |
16312s | little bit earlier that i think uh quest |
16314s | hunter can kind of struggle in i don't |
16317s | know why you come down on this but i |
16318s | think it's just uh your opponent has so |
16320s | much health and so many ways to gain |
16323s | health in the later game as well so many |
16324s | ways to wreak havoc with your hand |
16326s | uh that it just takes a little bit too |
16329s | long and your game plan is a little bit |
16330s | too shaky for me as the uh the quest |
16332s | hunter |
16333s | i think it really comes down to sort of |
16335s | the quest completion |
16337s | area of the game right is how awkward |
16340s | does it end up being to delay until you |
16342s | can complete the quest and play the |
16344s | reward in the same turn if it's not |
16346s | awkward at all i think the hunter has a |
16348s | pretty |
16349s | solid chance at winning because |
16352s | apart from the barucon hero i don't |
16354s | think there's a ton of healing available |
16357s | so you're really just hoping to dodge |
16358s | something like an early 10 drop off of |
16360s | wild pawn mukpools |
16363s | you hope not to get anything too serious |
16365s | stolen from a theater |
16367s | and we saw cheesehead even just throwing |
16369s | away mutinous because as the shaman you |
16371s | almost expect that the hunter is going |
16373s | to try and play the reward in the same |
16375s | turn |
16376s | so |
16376s | it's much more important to use |
16378s | something like a piatar to take one of |
16380s | their damage spells than it is to |
16383s | usually go for a mutinous onto the |
16385s | tavish so rarely does a hunter feel |
16388s | comfortable just completing the quest |
16390s | and then having the rewards sit in hand |
16392s | for one turn because uh you know that's |
16394s | an insta lose the game if it gets taken |
16399s | cheesehead right now hoping to uh |
16403s | put his name into action by cheesing |
16405s | this game with a null off the top he's |
16407s | got the full hand he's got the muck pull |
16408s | he's got everything he needs |
16410s | uh except for the null itself which |
16413s | would obviously massively catapult him |
16415s | into the lead so for right now he has to |
16417s | make do with what is generally like the |
16419s | second best thing you can do in this |
16421s | matchup against quest hunter uh you know |
16424s | the knoll pop off being number one uh |
16426s | but doing lots of stats all at once is |
16429s | what you want to do i think against |
16430s | quest until like a little bit turn after |
16432s | turn is perfect for them they play one |
16435s | or two spells a turn they get the hero |
16436s | power down to zero and every single |
16438s | thing dies whereas here one or two |
16440s | minions are pretty likely to actually |
16442s | survive and get some damage face |
16445s | yeah i'm actually a little bit surprised |
16447s | at that first war leader pickup of |
16448s | course not knowing he was going to be |
16450s | offered a second but the finley had to |
16453s | be pretty interesting there that being |
16455s | the finley of old which changes your |
16457s | hero power so maybe hesitated for so |
16459s | long on that decision just because of |
16461s | the option to pick up either the priest |
16463s | hero power or the warrior hero power |
16465s | which could give you just enough life to |
16467s | kind of keep you going until you find |
16468s | something like a a brew con that can |
16470s | offer even more healing but i i think |
16473s | i see where his head's at right just |
16475s | okay big border murlocs we'll play some |
16477s | war leaders and try and |
16479s | get in early damage |
16485s | okay |
16486s | leader here |
16488s | a card that always |
16491s | phases the two realities the two halves |
16493s | of my brain between bgs and standard |
16495s | like whenever i see it pop up in uh in a |
16498s | regular hearthstone like wait a second |
16499s | this isn't right there must be some kind |
16501s | of mistake but yeah in this instance |
16504s | pretty damn good for cheesehead to just |
16506s | ratchet up the pressure i actually |
16509s | wonder if it was ever worth it to just |
16510s | take the pools evolve on the clownfish |
16512s | there anyways because you have to know |
16515s | that a deck built of entirely damaged |
16516s | spells is going to be able to clear the |
16518s | war later |
16525s | now there's just no minions left in play |
16527s | for good evolves |
16529s | that's so sick look at this |
16533s | you really need something big now like i |
16534s | said the null would be the absolute |
16536s | dream like i don't know maybe a brand to |
16538s | go along the theater for a couple turns |
16541s | time could be good enough but man she's |
16543s | head not even trying to snipe the uh the |
16546s | tavish in a couple turns time saying |
16548s | realistically is my opponent ever gonna |
16550s | give me the opportunity to actually |
16552s | steal it |
16553s | uh and just letting rip with uh the |
16556s | theater and being met with some pretty |
16558s | bad news honestly it's just a handful of |
16561s | damage spells |
16563s | yeah i think it's a tough choice there |
16565s | right the spring the trap is something |
16567s | that uh is not good for you but it is |
16569s | good for the hunter no secrets having |
16571s | been drawn yet with the honorable kill |
16573s | could pull two of them out of the deck a |
16575s | wound prey honestly may be a good option |
16577s | to steal just because cheap damage is |
16579s | the most flexible for that final leg |
16582s | where you want to get the quest |
16583s | completed and played in the same turn |
16587s | on the decision here in terms of what to |
16589s | give yeah starfish does the least for |
16592s | your opponent |
16598s | okay sure |
16600s | kind of high health at least |
16602s | kind of |
16603s | kind of |
16610s | so the big concern here for wet goose is |
16613s | because your opponent played theater |
16617s | does that give you any kind of read on |
16619s | them having mutinous like |
16621s | are they trying to lull you into a false |
16623s | sense of security with what was pretty |
16625s | obviously not going to be a good theater |
16628s | do you want to get tavish into your hand |
16630s | this turn or do you just need to wait an |
16632s | extra turn and do it all at once |
16636s | yeah it's it's always that question |
16638s | right it's sort of uh rock paper |
16640s | scissors of you know who who is assuming |
16642s | which scenario we saw jesus had throwing |
16645s | back the mutinous and playing the |
16647s | theater out early |
16648s | sort of as a respect that well i'm never |
16651s | going to get the opportunity to use |
16652s | these anyway to take the reward but then |
16655s | how much does what goose kind of |
16658s | assume the opponent is going to think |
16660s | that way i |
16661s | i think everyone's just going with the |
16663s | worst right so what goose is going to |
16666s | try and make sure that he can play |
16668s | the quest reward on the same turn and |
16670s | she said is just going to assume that |
16671s | that's going to happen and just focus on |
16673s | putting stats on board |
16682s | football guardian pretty good amount of |
16684s | stats that's pretty good yeah |
16690s | uh to the point where now |
16692s | is he one activation or two away from |
16695s | [Music] |
16696s | rubbish |
16698s | i think we must be pretty close because |
16701s | of the hesitation to do something like |
16703s | trap |
16705s | yeah |
16706s | okay yeah yeah that does make sense |
16708s | otherwise you would have always played |
16709s | one of the uh the quick shots last turn |
16711s | uh so yes i concur i'm happy with this |
16714s | play |
16715s | and now uh we're reaching an interesting |
16717s | mid game right wet goose oh i suppose |
16719s | late game actually for quest hunter uh |
16721s | where wet goose has no card draw in hand |
16724s | but a few damage spells dumbledore i |
16726s | guess technically card draw and quick |
16728s | trot as well technically but with the |
16730s | way this is going that all looks way too |
16732s | slow |
16732s | because cheesehead is turning up the |
16735s | pressure now upgrading the knoll hoping |
16737s | for something big oh boy does it deliver |
16740s | that is |
16742s | monstrous |
16744s | only response for that is something like |
16746s | a freezing trap and with the wound prey |
16748s | having been taken |
16749s | there's a really easy answer unless uh |
16752s | you're able to get your own board clear |
16754s | so |
16754s | wet goose is just gonna have to ignore |
16756s | that for a while and take it and that's |
16758s | not really something you can do for |
16759s | terribly long |
16766s | i think the question is whether to |
16767s | bother rushing in or not |
16770s | i don't even think you bother i think |
16772s | you just want the most survivable minion |
16774s | possible you have primordial wave next |
16776s | turn if you need to to uh just deal with |
16778s | most of the stats from tavis anyway i |
16780s | like it |
16784s | and i think actually interestingly as |
16785s | well the para is |
16787s | still no full guardian right because you |
16789s | didn't actually play a |
16793s | right |
16794s | last turn |
16795s | null and piranha do not have a battle |
16796s | cry so yes yeah it is |
16798s | still snowfall |
16800s | interesting |
16806s | no way to get the |
16807s | honorable kill on the spring trap |
16812s | and you also just can't |
16814s | really justify going face here can you |
16816s | even if you go |
16818s | like uh |
16821s | you know piercing shot on the uh the |
16823s | snowfall guardians say for example to |
16824s | take out most of the damage i i think |
16826s | you do just have to be all on clearing |
16827s | the board here which wet goose is |
16830s | dutifully doing even if it feels |
16832s | absolutely terrible |
16834s | yeah trying to bluff a freezing i mean |
16837s | not even really just sort of a hope |
16839s | right you both know that it was randomly |
16841s | out of the deck |
16842s | i would expect to see wound prey used to |
16844s | check |
16852s | it gets the all clear |
16855s | so now you're just expecting |
16857s | freezing and i suppose the question is |
16860s | whether or not you worry about this |
16861s | tavis at all maybe just freeze it |
16863s | another turn |
16868s | i do like the attack overall i've got to |
16870s | say i think this game it looks good for |
16872s | cheesehead but the quality of his hand |
16874s | is very very low right now uh this could |
16877s | very very rapidly swing out of his |
16879s | control so i think you need to attack |
16880s | into something |
16882s | and i think that something is still face |
16886s | well so you could make the attack into |
16889s | the tavish just so you don't have to |
16890s | deal with it anymore you play a couple |
16892s | of minions to flood board and then |
16894s | expect that you're going to be playing |
16896s | a primordial wave |
16900s | to sort of you know refresh your 10 drop |
16905s | yeah i don't mind this |
16907s | just make |
16908s | wide board the totem roll is actually |
16911s | well i suppose not that nice when a hero |
16913s | power invalidates it no matter what but |
16915s | you know that with the death rattle it |
16917s | should at least be somewhat challenging |
16919s | and might involve trading the 77 to |
16921s | actually deal with the stormborn |
16924s | so yeah |
16925s | more i think about it the more i like to |
16926s | face it as well and you do have a fairly |
16929s | easy clear here there's a couple ways |
16931s | you can go about you could go obviously |
16932s | piercing shot you could have got an aim |
16934s | shot on the murloc and the 2 damage and |
16937s | 4 damage hero power to take out the |
16939s | other 10 drop |
16940s | but all of this works essentially the |
16942s | same right you're able to clear the |
16943s | board keep the tavish alive and |
16945s | cheesehead's expression in all its |
16948s | pixelated glory says it all right now |
16950s | because he is starting to lose this game |
16953s | and there aren't that many good top |
16955s | decks left to him in all honesty |
16957s | i think the best one honestly would be |
16959s | bru khan for six damage and six heal |
16962s | into |
16963s | rolling another fireball that's pretty |
16965s | much what you're looking for maybe even |
16967s | just have to bolner |
16969s | one of these right you know it's not ice |
16971s | trap so you bowler |
16974s | dungeoneer and then just use the wave |
16976s | because most five drops are not seven |
16978s | sixes |
16979s | yeah i i think |
16981s | fours rather |
16982s | agreed yeah yeah you have to go with uh |
16985s | ulna plus the uh the dungeoneer here |
16987s | right like your hand just needs more |
16989s | value you need to thin your deck even if |
16991s | it doesn't draw you brew can obviously |
16994s | it increases your chances of drawing |
16995s | brucon which is really a win condition |
16997s | here |
16999s | and anything you get in play is still |
17001s | something that dressed deal with on nine |
17003s | life you can't really afford to let too |
17005s | much stick around so |
17008s | yeah i very much like to see the the |
17010s | bolner dungeoneer and actually |
17012s | you wouldn't even have to wave if you do |
17014s | draw elemental right and pick up the |
17016s | other sleep breaker |
17024s | schooling is the first there it is oh |
17026s | there we go |
17028s | that's strong that's really strong turn |
17030s | actually |
17032s | yeah fills the hand back up |
17034s | freeze the seven six one more turn you |
17036s | can even involve the dungeoneer |
17041s | and absolutely chock full once again for |
17044s | uh cheese head wet goose though is gonna |
17047s | have a refill turd of his own because he |
17049s | gets furious howl |
17051s | uh off the top which is like the best |
17053s | card he could find right now |
17056s | yeah it's still just gonna have to be a |
17058s | little bit of chip damage as you do |
17060s | clear the board so that'll be the real |
17062s | test is how efficiently can wet boost |
17064s | clear while still getting in just enough |
17067s | damage to get over the finish line i i |
17069s | don't think you can leave bolner up |
17077s | multicaster with the arcane |
17079s | yeah i guess you probably can't leave it |
17081s | up can you uh but yeah multicaster |
17083s | absolutely enormous here |
17087s | i've heard |
17088s | cheesehead may be wanting to make sure |
17090s | that these piranhas always rush in |
17091s | because any one one in play could just |
17094s | mean a ton of damage from |
17095s | the end of a piercing shot |
17105s | do you just devour the seven six |
17110s | probably not right |
17112s | i don't think so yeah the problem is of |
17113s | course the secret that's really scary |
17115s | otherwise i'd love to go command of |
17117s | neptulon this is kind of why i think he |
17119s | was maybe supposed to hold on to the |
17120s | schooling uh at the end of the last turn |
17122s | i didn't get an opportunity to talk |
17123s | about it but it's just a much much |
17125s | better spell to deal with |
17127s | uh ice trap than commander neptulon or |
17130s | the wild poor uh caverns |
17133s | yeah absolutely and with no null in hand |
17135s | and one already used it's not providing |
17138s | a ton of utility |
17141s | uh so the last battle cry is now |
17144s | uh |
17145s | the sleep breaker i think right to give |
17147s | another freeze off the parrot which is |
17149s | something you can consider for sure uh |
17153s | but i think you'd much rather try and |
17154s | get command of neptune down but she said |
17156s | looks |
17157s | very surprised at that which |
17160s | honestly he shouldn't |
17163s | yeah what's happening i've seen an ice |
17165s | and an explosive i'm i'm very surprised |
17168s | uh |
17169s | this isn't exactly what you want you |
17171s | know wind chill |
17172s | would have been the better thing to |
17173s | bounce back if you were going to go in |
17174s | on this line i think there may have been |
17176s | a bit of panic there even playing the |
17177s | one one which as i said before dangerous |
17180s | in the face of piercing shot that's |
17182s | right yeah i think we just |
17184s | kind of had a bit of a brain delay there |
17185s | like he clearly had something in mind |
17188s | that he was convinced would happen and |
17190s | those are the most disorienting points |
17192s | in hearthstone when you're just |
17193s | completely thrown |
17195s | uh |
17196s | by uh you know reality not matching up |
17198s | to your expectations uh as now wet goose |
17201s | is just finding an awful lot of damahe |
17205s | stag charge piercing shot barb nets |
17209s | is this lethal it's it's like it's kind |
17211s | of close right it's it's very close i |
17213s | think if it's not lethal this turn it's |
17215s | uh it's |
17216s | really getting there |
17217s | yet |
17218s | you know stag charge was the pickup i |
17220s | don't know if the hesitation was what he |
17222s | was just doing a bit of math but i i |
17223s | think with the three from the |
17224s | multicaster it's just enough |
17227s | oh it's exact oh my god that's so sick |
17230s | or okay maybe two over with the |
17232s | explosive trap yes even so |
17235s | yeah uh you hate to see it but a little |
17237s | bit of um |
17238s | [Music] |
17240s | awkward turn for chee's head there |
17242s | playing into the the ice trap uh but |
17246s | well played for wet goose and you know |
17248s | some of that latter experience showing |
17250s | just how strong of a player he is you |
17252s | know the quest hunter |
17255s | can really just look like it has no |
17257s | cards and then out of nowhere just has |
17259s | all of these tools furious how of course |
17261s | draws you a ton quick shot is an extra |
17263s | card when you have an empty hand |
17265s | so it can really jump back in out of |
17267s | nowhere even if it looks like they're |
17268s | out of resources |
17270s | which means with that said and done we |
17272s | are all finished up with our matches |
17275s | from round six |
17278s | i believe |
17279s | yes all done going on to round seven |
17281s | after this and so the players at the top |
17283s | of the scoreboard in round six at the |
17285s | six and o score and we have chewie woods |
17289s | matty monsanto and love storms so uh |
17293s | some decent representation from uh all |
17296s | the regions except asia pacific i |
17298s | believe uh at that top score line but |
17301s | i'm sure they're they're just behind |
17302s | right in uh the five on one score line |
17305s | there's a good few apac players uh with |
17308s | uh some pretty notable names at that |
17310s | score line actually uh we have donkey a |
17312s | real favorite of the casters for all his |
17313s | stats work of course bonnie hopper glory |
17317s | soros a player who i've casted with a |
17320s | fair bit |
17321s | a fair bunch |
17322s | way back in the day fury hunter managed |
17324s | to claw his way back to five and one |
17326s | after losing on stream first round it's |
17328s | expected from fury hunter yeah yeah even |
17331s | possessing creeping in at five and one |
17333s | as well after his world championship |
17335s | victory last year so it's looking to be |
17336s | a good masters tour actually in terms of |
17338s | the top 16. i'm liking a lot of the |
17340s | diversity we have at the top of the |
17341s | field both in terms of uh region |
17344s | representation uh player |
17347s | um notoriety i guess would be the way to |
17350s | put it that we have there as well i'm |
17352s | feeling pumped |
17353s | [Music] |
17355s | me too yeah really looking forward to it |
17358s | all right with that all said and done |
17360s | let's go to a quick break and then when |
17361s | we come back round seven of masters tour |
17364s | murder at castle nathria will begin |
17375s | [Music] |
17379s | so |
17381s | [Music] |
17409s | so |
17411s | [Music] |
17446s | you |
17460s | [Music] |
17484s | [Music] |
17499s | so |
17503s | [Music] |
17516s | foreign |
17517s | [Music] |
17556s | right |
17565s | hello everyone and welcome back to |
17567s | masters tour murder at castle nathria |
17570s | i'm raven and joining me is a very uh |
17573s | jiggly tj i guess we're gonna go for |
17576s | here welcome my friend i've not cast |
17577s | with you yet this weekend so it's the |
17579s | first time here how's it going how you |
17580s | enjoying the masters tour |
17582s | ah it's been good it's been good um i |
17584s | mentioned at the very beginning that i'm |
17585s | a fan of this meta game we're not going |
17587s | to meet it for very much longer |
17588s | apparently |
17590s | based on what happened yesterday but |
17592s | uh still i like the decks that have rose |
17595s | up in popularity and some of these cool |
17597s | decks and players lineups that |
17600s | we may not have expected outside of you |
17601s | know the druid shaman so |
17604s | i've been enjoying it raven i've been |
17605s | enjoying it and i was just copying you |
17607s | uh nobody at home knows but uh the year |
17610s | i can see you and you're doing it too so |
17613s | very true i'm upset you've revealed my |
17616s | secrets tj of uh what i do when people |
17619s | are or viewers can't see me but here are |
17621s | the two players we are going to kick it |
17622s | off with with this round seven match up |
17625s | and it's gonna be two uh previous |
17627s | players we have a lot of experience |
17628s | casting tj uh a rock versus language |
17632s | hacker uh coming right up we are gonna |
17634s | have a double shaymin ban as well so |
17636s | we're not gonna get any uh i would say |
17638s | for me sharon feels like the deck that |
17640s | can play the most drawn out games right |
17642s | it does feel like it's just 40 high |
17645s | value cards and it's just who burns out |
17647s | more or which deck sort of opens that |
17649s | window to finish the game with uh but |
17651s | instead yeah they're gonna be banned |
17653s | away and we're gonna |
17654s | look like we're on track for a more bit |
17656s | more fast paced set of match ups than we |
17658s | used to |
17660s | yeah um you know we've seen similar |
17662s | lineups to these but uh you know they |
17666s | still fit within in the mold and i'm |
17668s | just excited to see the north american |
17671s | players do well so i'd say american |
17672s | players do well but language hackers |
17674s | only an honorary american is this the |
17676s | masters tour tj is this the day or the |
17679s | weekend it happens no absolutely not |
17682s | oh |
17684s | a rock coming up here with the uh yeah |
17686s | you know pretty strong previous |
17688s | performances uh in gm he did okay he did |
17691s | decent it wasn't you know the best run |
17693s | ever he was improving over time uh but |
17696s | didn't really make a huge impact i would |
17699s | say but seem to be doing them pretty |
17700s | well so far |
17702s | overall it's going to be rocking that in |
17704s | warlock the face hunter and the ramp |
17706s | druid going into this series so like i |
17708s | said even though you look at ramp druid |
17710s | and may not think it's a fast deck uh it |
17713s | definitely is it has very high game |
17715s | ending potential especially with the |
17716s | help of danathias |
17719s | uh yes it does um and you know we've i |
17722s | feel like we haven't seen those like |
17725s | those juicy genathrius's that much so |
17727s | far in this tournament um that's kind of |
17730s | what i expected to be the case with how |
17731s | many shamans and druids there are uh but |
17734s | we haven't seen like |
17735s | i don't think have we seen once on |
17737s | stream just like a brand kael'thas did |
17739s | atheists |
17740s | i i haven't i've not watched every |
17743s | second i don't think we're sorry but i |
17744s | don't think we have no |
17746s | i will say though as well for the druids |
17748s | at least uh it's a lot of the builds are |
17750s | very unlike the day one and two builds |
17752s | where people are in like flipper friends |
17754s | and like literally everything that can |
17756s | stack at an atherius because as soon as |
17758s | people started running theo tower |
17760s | everyone was like oh i should probably |
17761s | play more than one wing condition that |
17763s | can be stolen |
17764s | from from my hand and one of the reasons |
17766s | as well a lot of decks aren't running |
17768s | cold tooth mine |
17769s | right because it's just a signifier that |
17771s | you have daenerys in hand um and if you |
17774s | don't if you try and use it to not pull |
17776s | don't atheist then yeah you may as well |
17778s | not include it so it's gonna be pretty |
17779s | interesting but i believe we are gonna |
17781s | start with hunter from a rock uh going |
17783s | up against the warlock from language |
17785s | like a bit of a tricky matchup for both |
17787s | players honestly |
17789s | yeah it's uh um very it lives on a |
17793s | knife's edge in the early game right you |
17795s | know |
17796s | it only takes a little bit for one of |
17798s | the players to kind of blow the game out |
17800s | of the water |
17801s | um and but most of the time that's the |
17803s | import lock uh but hunter b because of |
17806s | you know wild spirits |
17808s | bag charge things like that can have |
17810s | like these big swing turns especially if |
17812s | the hunter's able to be on the play |
17814s | they can you know use doggie biscuit |
17816s | rimmy mount to kind of uh stay in the |
17818s | lead on the board right um but |
17821s | very |
17822s | interesting as well zero masters torp |
17825s | has language hacker was he unhappy with |
17826s | his previous win rate and he's like a |
17828s | zero that's a lowercase o well it's just |
17831s | a small zero okay |
17834s | but maybe he's just unhappy with his win |
17835s | rate previously so he's like you know |
17836s | what no no wipe it we're starting from |
17839s | now |
17840s | yeah he's gonna go for it to add it on |
17841s | but yeah uh |
17843s | very interesting here three fridays in a |
17845s | row uh i think there are more than |
17848s | fridays in a row from my understanding |
17850s | but who knows how these crazy america's |
17853s | players count time |
17855s | it's saturday |
17860s | oh i love it |
17862s | i love it these guys these graphics are |
17864s | my favorite thing in the world because i |
17865s | know for a fact |
17867s | that lorenzo works incredibly hard on |
17870s | stats to get them out |
17872s | um |
17873s | but there's always one per broadcast |
17876s | that slips to the cracks and i love it |
17878s | though i love the body yeah it is a |
17880s | treat i think the only thing correct on |
17882s | that whole image was the picture of |
17884s | language hacker that's the only thing i |
17886s | could confirm yeah but but anyway |
17888s | it doesn't matter |
17890s | as we check out a rock's face hunter |
17892s | list now how do you feel about face |
17895s | hunters specifically in zoo |
17897s | because it's a very different matchup |
17899s | than say for example quest hunter |
17902s | uh yes yes it's uh |
17904s | incredibly different because you live |
17906s | and die by |
17907s | the early game board right if you can't |
17909s | stick early game damage and then damn |
17911s | warlock's just going to run you over |
17912s | there's no comeback mechanisms you can't |
17914s | keep the board under control with spells |
17915s | with secrets |
17916s | um |
17918s | but |
17919s | i've |
17920s | i don't know |
17921s | i've the |
17923s | face hunter we're gonna call it face on |
17925s | it right the face hunter play style |
17927s | currently is so like |
17930s | when more lose more right |
17933s | even more so than it was previously |
17936s | you're either |
17937s | winning games by a lot and this is like |
17940s | ninety percent of the time right there's |
17941s | ten percent of games that are close back |
17943s | and forth where you know you top deck |
17944s | legal to turn before you put on kills |
17946s | etc but um |
17948s | it does feel like you either get really |
17949s | far ahead and just steamroll your |
17951s | opponent right you get you know |
17953s | uh |
17954s | spirit poacher into stag charge into wow |
17958s | you know wild spirits or twin bow tear |
17960s | coral and then wild spirits or you know |
17962s | you don't have a one drop |
17965s | they play wicked shipment and then |
17967s | library boom you lose yeah um that |
17970s | that's what it feels like to be honest |
17972s | that's the thing isn't as we head into |
17973s | game one |
17974s | a lot of attention needs to be on these |
17977s | openings right literally what the first |
17979s | three turns maybe i'm even being |
17981s | generous saying three actually define a |
17984s | lot of the outcome of the game and there |
17987s | are certain things that can help for |
17988s | example language hacker is running the |
17989s | dreadlitch tamzin that we can see in |
17991s | hand right now which is useful if things |
17994s | don't go well initially uh tamzin can |
17997s | help out later on as an emergency button |
18000s | but again much more preferable to be |
18003s | ahead and i think tj both players |
18005s | probably pretty happy with their |
18006s | openings this is mine |
18009s | is |
18011s | language hacker in super fake's house |
18013s | ruined |
18014s | that's a good point |
18017s | that looks exactly like super fake's |
18019s | background even like the way the books |
18021s | are placed yeah that's just a standard |
18023s | way to place books but you know it's not |
18025s | language hacker's background or at least |
18027s | not the last one i saw him on anyway i |
18029s | oh tj what if his big brain does what if |
18032s | he's |
18033s | both other players backgrounds and it's |
18036s | on his screen he's like now you've got |
18038s | to guess whose house is it today |
18041s | that sounds like something i would do |
18042s | well played language hacker i think |
18044s | we've seen this background from lego |
18045s | tracker once before it might be like a |
18047s | visiting family's house from something |
18049s | like that okay um |
18051s | or at the library i don't know |
18054s | one of the two |
18055s | but um this is a |
18058s | an interesting uh early game for |
18060s | language hacker because |
18061s | he does have bio library uh feed to |
18063s | circle but the big thing here is he's |
18066s | got the grimoire sacrifice |
18068s | um so he he could opt to like say play |
18072s | this slow |
18074s | uh just let the dominions trade over |
18076s | this librarian and then next turn go |
18078s | like feed the circle coin grimoire |
18081s | and clean up all of the |
18083s | uh |
18084s | uh |
18085s | troggs that he he's creating and things |
18088s | like that |
18089s | um he might |
18092s | have been worried about like a buff |
18093s | whether it be ramming mouth or dogs |
18095s | situation yeah |
18097s | and so i |
18098s | think that this play is perfectly |
18100s | reasonable |
18101s | yeah i think this is not what language |
18102s | hacker would have liked to have done but |
18105s | i think he got to the conclusion that |
18106s | annie buff makes this horrendous if he |
18108s | doesn't go for the clean now on the |
18110s | truck arock does follow up with a |
18112s | slither spear and gets that bear spirit |
18114s | locked loaded and ready to go |
18117s | what |
18119s | does he still go for the grimoire it |
18121s | still does a decent job of clearing the |
18123s | two tutus uh on board and still leaves a |
18126s | couple of imps there or do you think he |
18128s | stares a lot of this imp gang boss |
18130s | because it's very difficult for hunter |
18133s | to actually clear imp gang bus up in a |
18136s | sort of tidy manner and this could |
18138s | really set him up for a strong circle |
18140s | and then library the turn after |
18144s | the only thing is i think that language |
18147s | hacker really wants uh to hold on to the |
18149s | coin |
18150s | because of the dreadlitch champion |
18152s | pickup |
18152s | or at least have the option for dredlich |
18154s | damson |
18157s | just because of how powerful it can be |
18159s | in these early games the problem is |
18162s | you know not protecting himself from |
18164s | this damage this is going to be a lot of |
18166s | damage come at the face and a rock's |
18168s | hand this is basically what it said i |
18170s | think language hackers plays he was |
18171s | worried about buffs he wanted to make |
18173s | sure that he could hold on to the coin |
18174s | for dredlich thampson but eros was like |
18177s | sure whatever i'll |
18179s | i'll just go face |
18181s | works out fine |
18182s | i just get to clear everything but the |
18184s | slither spare or one of the slither |
18186s | spares right if he does go for the uh |
18189s | circle of criminals |
18190s | i didn't see what this murlocky low was |
18192s | at but um it only it could be maximum |
18196s | one because the librarian's the only |
18198s | minion on language hacker's side that |
18199s | has died |
18202s | but it will be able to come down soon |
18204s | maybe the merlocky look could be enough |
18207s | to |
18209s | just get him to tamzin get him to |
18211s | tampson or at least you know post |
18214s | hampson just be able to come down but |
18216s | now tamsen's a little bit awkward |
18217s | because it will clear off his |
18219s | stuff |
18221s | or a lot of his own stuff |
18223s | just thinking about where to use this |
18225s | library on before he remorse yep thank |
18227s | you i like this |
18229s | just make a huge gang boss and the |
18230s | benefit of this is well this one gets to |
18232s | attack right so i like the buff on that |
18236s | yep |
18238s | oh |
18242s | okay |
18243s | that's quite good |
18245s | it |
18246s | is |
18248s | i would have preferred more raw damage |
18250s | though |
18251s | yeah it doesn't really fit what he chose |
18253s | as his game plan last year his plan was |
18256s | probably to just dump whatever card came |
18257s | off the top quick shot |
18259s | and then uh try and roll through with |
18261s | this damage because this hero power does |
18262s | have the aim shot buff loaded up so just |
18264s | four |
18265s | there's currently seven from hand for |
18267s | just four mana |
18269s | very resilient to tamsin though |
18271s | to be fair you can't uh damage dormant |
18273s | minions take some of that but uh yeah |
18276s | i will say as well a rock did favor |
18278s | aggro throughout uh the majority of the |
18280s | gm career uh for him so he's very used |
18283s | to playing these kind of matchups |
18286s | what do you think was the ooh for seeing |
18288s | the bartender |
18290s | yeah but |
18291s | i feel like you just |
18293s | trade twice over the |
18295s | grizzly spirit |
18297s | [Music] |
18298s | i guess this is the the top shelf |
18302s | okay |
18303s | i feel safe |
18304s | yeah this gets molocular down too |
18307s | because yeah there will be two more |
18308s | minions traded in rocky it comes down |
18310s | it's a big board |
18312s | does it set up lethal if only one thing |
18315s | is cleared it's 18 |
18318s | 21 |
18320s | so not quite but the miraculous pretty |
18322s | scary |
18325s | funnily enough oh wow oh yeah quick shot |
18328s | now that's some damage oh yeah |
18331s | definitely going to help outpace the |
18333s | molecular |
18341s | yeah there's no way he's dealing 11. |
18346s | might be time to tamzin |
18349s | coin voidwalker as well |
18352s | sure |
18353s | he could probably just go all face pass |
18354s | and still win |
18359s | i'm not getting any younger |
18364s | girls gonna start stacking up |
18366s | there is the uh |
18369s | the dreaded collateral damage in the |
18371s | deck for a rock which always wins when |
18374s | you play on tourney |
18376s | yep |
18377s | the problem is getting to turn eight in |
18379s | a situation like this i'm not getting |
18380s | anything |
18383s | the grizzly spirit will emerge next turn |
18384s | so provide five health worth of taunt |
18386s | but the stag is not it could if a wild |
18389s | spirit is picked up off the top |
18394s | but that's still only adds a little bit |
18396s | of damage |
18397s | what do you think language echo is |
18398s | thinking about this term because is |
18400s | there really that much to consider |
18404s | i know the tamzin there's some drawbacks |
18407s | to it but does he really not want |
18413s | listen okay i'm a little bit surprised i |
18416s | thought tamsin coined voidwalker looked |
18418s | pretty strong |
18420s | yeah |
18421s | it it takes away power from the board |
18423s | maybe that's what he's worried about |
18426s | but you gain health but there's no way |
18427s | that he deals |
18428s | yeah that's like the thing is like what |
18431s | is |
18432s | i guess what's going to come out of this |
18434s | it's going to be a big problem here he |
18436s | did get the wild spirits as well so he |
18437s | does get the weapon and the three one to |
18440s | push through so not a bad outcome at all |
18443s | it's not gonna be good enough |
18446s | early game one gonna go for language |
18448s | hacker in there i think |
18450s | a pretty good display of what the match |
18453s | up looks like right is that the warlock |
18455s | can just go a little bit too wide too |
18458s | often and even though it was very very |
18460s | close indeed a language hacker obviously |
18464s | ended the game with tamsin in hand he |
18466s | could have gained even more armor right |
18467s | so even though a rock got off a little |
18469s | bit the the inclusions of these grimoire |
18472s | of sacrifice which were not in like the |
18474s | sort of day one builds |
18475s | are actually pretty huge |
18478s | yeah they certainly are and |
18480s | we're seeing so many uh more techs |
18483s | because i think players are just |
18484s | realizing that just having |
18486s | the core |
18487s | strong imps you know just like blessed |
18490s | librarian file library feature speed of |
18492s | circle and this is him like you can |
18495s | fit a lot of other stuff around that and |
18498s | it's still going to be powerful when it |
18500s | happens and you're still just as likely |
18501s | to hit them but having more support so |
18504s | you're not just all in on having an |
18505s | early board |
18507s | makes the deck feel |
18509s | you know a little bit more smooth you |
18511s | get like sort of multiple |
18513s | uh wind conditions in that regard um so |
18517s | definitely been liking these uh |
18519s | different inclusions um but |
18522s | that's kind of what we talked about with |
18523s | the hunter you know |
18525s | it seemed close for a second but |
18528s | it it at the end of the day it really |
18530s | wasn't that close uh still a lot of |
18533s | damage off and could have been even more |
18535s | damage off |
18536s | if uh language hacker |
18538s | had opted to play like tamsen |
18541s | that would matter you don't get extra |
18542s | bonus points for being |
18545s | higher health and you could have been |
18547s | you don't get like 1.1 wins in the |
18549s | series no you get one win no matter how |
18551s | it happens i'm glad because i don't |
18552s | really want to work with those kinds of |
18554s | numbers uh we do see language hacker is |
18556s | moving over to his priest and uh he's |
18558s | dipping his toe in there both pools here |
18560s | honestly tj one school teacher one |
18563s | partner in crime i know you and i have |
18564s | been playing a lot of uh this style of |
18566s | priest and i know you like the one |
18569s | teacher and i believe the crush claw is |
18572s | your weapon of choice uh for the other |
18574s | slot |
18575s | my most recent list |
18577s | has been no shard of the naaru |
18583s | one crush claw one schoolteacher and |
18585s | magic hexson still playing hatchet |
18587s | uh language hacker to make room for that |
18589s | second four drop has cut naja kexin |
18592s | right um it is very situational in a lot |
18594s | of matchups it can end up just dead in |
18596s | the hand and it's expensive |
18598s | um |
18599s | but i feel like the matchups where it's |
18601s | good it's it's very good |
18603s | um so |
18604s | yeah i think weirdly i found myself |
18606s | using it the most to um like just not |
18610s | get my minion traded into for a turn |
18612s | right even if hexa goes down if your |
18614s | main target isn't hexan as in your buff |
18617s | target then you have a big minion you |
18619s | just protect it for an extra turn and i |
18621s | think that's more than good enough to |
18622s | warrant it in the list but hey rock |
18625s | gonna be sitting on the hunter once |
18626s | again |
18628s | yep |
18629s | knows his stuff wild spirits on three |
18631s | it's all part of the plan |
18632s | all part of the plan |
18634s | um so for language hacker uh i oh |
18638s | throws away blademaster samuro |
18641s | um |
18642s | blademaster samuro can be good in this |
18644s | matchup but only if your opponent hits |
18646s | that side of their deck right right |
18648s | heavy side of their deck and |
18651s | he wouldn't you he wouldn't be |
18653s | guaranteed to have support with blade |
18654s | master samurai by itself it's not good |
18657s | if you have like cathedral and blade |
18659s | master samurai sure you can argue that |
18660s | you can keep both of those so you have |
18662s | three and then four to clear up the |
18663s | board and then your blade master summer |
18665s | was already pretty big uh to get things |
18667s | rolling lego tracker had no support for |
18669s | it so opted to keep the radiant |
18671s | elemental and the this matchup is pretty |
18674s | much just about one big swing |
18676s | right if if you can find a turn |
18679s | relatively early on before you've taken |
18680s | too much damage where you can just go |
18683s | okay i |
18685s | dealt with my opponent's board in summer |
18686s | guard or i built a giant minion |
18690s | or multiple giant minions that's what |
18692s | you want to go for it's hard to do have |
18695s | like incremental power spikes in this |
18697s | matchup because the hunter is just going |
18698s | to go right past it right they don't |
18700s | care if you have like one medium sized |
18702s | minion if they have |
18703s | three four |
18705s | small minions that are constantly |
18706s | attacking face usually they're going to |
18708s | win them |
18709s | one big moment yeah very simply stick |
18712s | aboard um and then make it stay there |
18714s | there is oh pardon crime as well |
18718s | oh that is interesting because i i do |
18721s | find this location |
18724s | very fun to use and interested to work |
18726s | out how to use it because now the easy |
18729s | idea is okay treasure card press the |
18732s | location button on it because that makes |
18733s | a big minion |
18735s | yes but what if now language hacker |
18737s | waits and does it in partnering crime |
18739s | instead right because that is an option |
18741s | he didn't go for it but it's something |
18743s | he could have done because currently uh |
18746s | this does just insta die to pretty much |
18748s | the fox and any other card in the hand |
18751s | right now so yeah uh just worth |
18753s | considering i think there's a lot of |
18754s | flexibility with that location |
18759s | the fox is so clutch in this match up |
18761s | normally the fox is one you're |
18763s | you know not as happy to see over some |
18765s | of the others if you get like just the |
18766s | one but there yeah in this matchup you |
18768s | just want absolute high impact damage |
18770s | all the time |
18772s | and language hacker |
18774s | is quite dead they're not bored right |
18780s | oh yeah the weapon procs this turn right |
18782s | yeah this stag emerges next to it |
18785s | um |
18786s | there's got to be heel face needs to |
18788s | happen |
18789s | yeah double then |
18791s | the a-rock doesn't have a single spell |
18794s | always hold it |
18800s | and he has it |
18801s | yep |
18810s | wow okay well um |
18813s | that was that was close |
18815s | yeah and i think that's something i |
18816s | didn't really say earlier but the hunter |
18819s | versus zoo matchup obviously you never |
18821s | want to lose the game of hearthstone in |
18823s | the tournament but the hunter you never |
18825s | going into that matchup expecting to win |
18828s | right because it's very very tough as |
18830s | the hunter but |
18831s | again aarock took the loss there but |
18833s | suddenly hunter well that hunter |
18835s | specifically versus priest well you do |
18837s | that pretty often actually though the |
18839s | priest needs a very specific strong |
18841s | opening to be able to survive that and |
18843s | it wasn't there so a rock again evens |
18845s | the series up gets the hunter out the |
18846s | way with not really any trouble and now |
18849s | yeah we're at that one on one score now |
18851s | tj priester is obviously available again |
18853s | for language hacker but a rock now has |
18855s | the druid hence the warlock so uh could |
18858s | get very interesting with that priest |
18860s | indeed |
18862s | yeah i think uh the game plan here for |
18866s | uh language hackers probably gonna be to |
18868s | have to corner the druid |
18871s | um |
18873s | just based on the matchups that are left |
18876s | um i i i |
18878s | mage is still sort of an anomaly to me |
18880s | especially this mage the |
18882s | uh like 30 card |
18884s | uh solid alibi skeleton page list |
18887s | because i feel like that's one of the |
18888s | decks that can just sort of steal |
18891s | i've on my break between there when uh |
18894s | derek and edelweiss were filling i was |
18896s | playing matty's version of this list and |
18898s | he doesn't run deathborn doesn't run |
18900s | kel'thuzad but it just runs like it's |
18902s | like four cost and below with mode dress |
18905s | in magister and i was playing i was like |
18907s | wow |
18908s | this deck's sick you just get him so |
18910s | yeah very excited to see more of at |
18912s | least that style of mage overall but for |
18914s | now we do have the warlock versus the |
18916s | priest and again matchup that's very |
18919s | focused on a couple of cards from the |
18921s | priest they're obviously having playable |
18923s | minions but most importantly for me that |
18926s | devour is clutch in this matchup you |
18929s | just win if you get to devour a board |
18932s | yeah um the |
18934s | only issue that i've run into with the |
18936s | devourer is like you know let's say they |
18939s | feed your circle right and you play like |
18941s | really elemental to power |
18943s | and then they play mischievous because |
18945s | it gets auto infused yeah |
18947s | and then you you need to have the |
18949s | follow-up for it uh it's not as simple |
18951s | as that but it's |
18952s | crazy how you look at like mulligan win |
18955s | rates how like shadow devour is really |
18957s | not that high of a of a win rate card |
18959s | when kept in the mulligan in in any |
18961s | matchup except for this one |
18963s | and this one it's like oh my god i got |
18965s | devour and i'm gonna win |
18967s | yeah it's uh |
18969s | pretty ridiculous |
18971s | um but oh okay |
18974s | this is |
18975s | uh in it |
18976s | oh it threw away the imp |
18978s | king |
18980s | it's also a matchup i feel where you're |
18982s | much more free as the priest to just go |
18984s | face if you have a big minion because |
18987s | zoo cannot really sustain itself a lot |
18989s | of the time right uh there is dan |
18991s | atherius in a rock's version but you're |
18993s | not planning on worrying about turn 10 |
18995s | as this priest so yeah we'll have to see |
18997s | how it goes double handmade and devour |
19000s | elegos here for language hacker |
19003s | definitely would like to get something |
19004s | to fill that gap because pelagos devour |
19006s | on turn four and maybe even turn three |
19009s | with the naga is gonna be huge |
19014s | got to get there first and erock's going |
19018s | and i'm a wicked shipman and there's a |
19019s | vile library to follow it up this is uh |
19023s | oh oh |
19026s | that's |
19027s | good that's the that's the exact nugget |
19030s | he needed |
19033s | you really have to think hard if you |
19035s | want to go for this but i think it makes |
19036s | sense so |
19038s | hold right you hold |
19041s | hold it no i think you were he coined |
19043s | out a wicked ship and i think you're |
19044s | worried about bile library because bio |
19046s | library would make it so that the |
19048s | uh devourer would do next to nothing |
19051s | right |
19052s | and now this allows for the |
19054s | scribe to trade over i think this was |
19056s | good so now you get to play pelagos on |
19058s | an empty board yeah it's just nowhere |
19060s | near as cool though is it tj and that's |
19062s | what i was here for i wanted the the big |
19064s | pelicans play but yeah this is pretty |
19066s | nice does have the uh cathedral next |
19068s | turn as well |
19071s | i will find the truth this is an uphill |
19073s | climb now for a rock |
19076s | it's a good setup from him and i think |
19077s | at the absolutely correct set up from a |
19079s | rock |
19080s | again the devour we talked about it and |
19082s | it happened |
19085s | no spell though for language which means |
19087s | this pelagos is looking a little bit uh |
19089s | meager |
19091s | i do like the cathedral though |
19099s | what is elune's will ah i've also |
19102s | decided |
19104s | the pillar goes up to seven |
19106s | let's say a rock went fiend a circle |
19109s | draw |
19110s | a cob now though right play it |
19117s | yeah probably you play right just take |
19119s | the nine nine |
19124s | and just punch him in the face |
19129s | holy right it's actually really hard |
19131s | it's really hard i feel like it's way |
19134s | too greedy to hold if pelicos dies your |
19136s | next turn is kind of trash right |
19140s | yeah i think this is worth |
19145s | all right it's just a 99 this was talked |
19147s | about earlier i think in this match up |
19148s | if you do get a big minion |
19151s | it's too messy to try and deal with the |
19152s | imps so just punch them in the face and |
19154s | race them because a lot of the time you |
19156s | know you hit them pretty hard |
19160s | this is a three turn setup and he gets |
19162s | to protect the pelego's next turn with |
19164s | the treasure guard so |
19166s | yep oh yeah three |
19168s | rockies |
19170s | oh i wondered if he was gonna go for a |
19172s | machocula there to actually try and |
19174s | survive and heal a little bit out of |
19176s | this like perfect range |
19179s | yeah |
19180s | oh we just get |
19193s | tj i've seen lists in this tournament |
19195s | that don't run boon imagine |
19199s | there's no way there is |
19201s | it hurts |
19203s | once you go boom you never go back |
19205s | exactly becomes the best card in the |
19207s | deck no matter what you could have no |
19208s | minions on board or in hand and boone's |
19210s | still the best card |
19211s | yeah |
19214s | now you have to think about whether or |
19215s | not to trade um i'd be might be worried |
19218s | about a second buff |
19220s | on this murlocula |
19223s | but |
19224s | a rock was obviously fishing for |
19227s | something it kills the boon the the |
19230s | taunted boon on board if you go face |
19234s | he traded an imp gang boss in for one |
19236s | imp right and then infuse i think that |
19238s | uh reeks of desperation |
19242s | okay though there's an atheist is |
19244s | getting buffed |
19247s | yep |
19258s | the handmaiden has uh |
19261s | some lethal outs |
19265s | right if you hit let's say serpent wig |
19269s | serpent wig that's |
19270s | right or devour yeah serpent wig or |
19272s | devour |
19273s | are both lethal i mean he always wants |
19276s | to location the palace right so start |
19279s | with that uh the only thing |
19282s | yeah i guess okay oh |
19284s | never mind i told you |
19286s | well the reason for that is he's never |
19289s | dead right |
19290s | yeah and if he plays treasure guard that |
19293s | turn then |
19296s | the one one probably wants two minions |
19299s | have to go into it which means one he's |
19301s | never dead and two if he actually does |
19303s | buff the peligos the pelagos is almost |
19305s | certainly never dead either so then it |
19307s | always just feels better to buff the |
19309s | pelicans made the one big minion |
19310s | language hacker takes game number three |
19314s | and again that was just exactly what you |
19316s | want to do with priest and guess what he |
19318s | won the priest versus zoo matchup when |
19320s | he drew both devours makes sense |
19324s | makes a lot of sense they came at the |
19326s | perfect times as well |
19328s | yeah there were a lot of tricky turns |
19330s | though for both players tough decisions |
19331s | right even though it was a short game |
19333s | yeah i i |
19335s | like if you even have a whiff |
19340s | uh smell that they might |
19342s | uh have the |
19345s | always forgive me |
19347s | uh vile library there you go it's a |
19350s | library i always want to say graveyard |
19351s | but the graveyard is the |
19353s | uh it's the rogue yeah |
19355s | um oh my god i'm so bored |
19357s | uh if you even have a whip that a buff |
19360s | is there you you want to go for the |
19362s | devourer as soon as possible right and |
19364s | and then just go from there right yeah |
19366s | in those situations you |
19368s | can't hope that your opponent |
19371s | in what situation would you flame a coin |
19373s | wicked shipment if you didn't have |
19374s | violet library so i like i like the |
19376s | the play that he ended up going for and |
19378s | it worked out in the end so took the win |
19380s | now it's just that mage left |
19382s | for lego checker and it is the |
19384s | 30 card |
19385s | um |
19387s | solid alibi spooky |
19389s | age |
19390s | and |
19391s | as i was saying before i was playing |
19392s | matty's list which doesn't run the |
19394s | deathborns or kel'thuzad |
19396s | and i felt like it was very smooth you |
19399s | were almost just playing burn mage uh |
19401s | with some control tools and it was great |
19403s | it felt it felt amazing uh i'm very |
19405s | interested to see how this version looks |
19407s | because again there were just clunky |
19410s | potentially clunky cards added right to |
19413s | the version i was playing with |
19415s | kel'thuzad to deathborns so we'll see |
19417s | how it turns out only one alibi as well |
19420s | so we'll see what happens there but also |
19422s | it looks like a rock is jumping over to |
19424s | his ramp druid uh yeah this might be a |
19426s | bit of a tough one as well a ramp druid |
19429s | of course capable of crazy things but |
19431s | with both players playing theo |
19433s | yeah things can get a little bit wild |
19436s | oh yeah oh yeah i feel like we've seen |
19439s | some nasty theaters throughout the |
19440s | weekend so far but |
19443s | um i |
19444s | have liked this version of ramp druid a |
19447s | little bit more than like say the |
19449s | celestial |
19450s | uh variations |
19452s | this one has a lot more options in the |
19454s | early game right in terms of |
19457s | what you can do |
19458s | there's only one of dozen kelp keeper |
19460s | but playing that plus druid three plus |
19462s | planted evidence |
19464s | like amalgam if you just desperately |
19467s | need a minion on board like it's very |
19470s | uh sort of low curve |
19472s | uh acknowledges the fact that it can do |
19475s | something against aggressive decks that |
19477s | get onto the board fast even a spammy |
19479s | arcanist |
19480s | thrown in there but it still keeps its |
19483s | top end in there and instead of playing |
19485s | like alignment you |
19488s | play kazakhstan and that's what the |
19489s | amalgams are for right so you have that |
19492s | super |
19493s | late game tech for to to just be able to |
19496s | get there against some of the decks that |
19497s | go super slow yeah for druid just look |
19500s | in the decklist it has a surprising |
19502s | amount of the deck uh space giving over |
19504s | to three drops and less versus some of |
19507s | the other druids we've seen that pretty |
19508s | much start at four |
19510s | uh or three even uh but yeah looks like |
19512s | we are going to get straight into it |
19514s | here language hacker |
19515s | night cloak sanctum extremely powerful |
19519s | card but one that i don't think is |
19520s | necessarily a keep in this matchup but |
19523s | language shack are choosing to only keep |
19525s | that card i'm a just a little bit |
19527s | surprised |
19528s | it's just way too good like it's just |
19530s | always good like it's just a fantastic |
19532s | way to spend three mana yeah that's |
19534s | better when |
19535s | you're just like what the game state is |
19537s | on turn three i'm going to bank this |
19539s | banner now so i don't have to spend it |
19541s | later |
19542s | that's fair enough |
19559s | hacker could ping it but it doesn't die |
19562s | so now you cannot target me with your |
19564s | hero power |
19569s | checker second do i wanna save one |
19571s | health like i'm probably gonna ping this |
19573s | next turn to trade over it anyway yeah |
19576s | so i might as well because also as well |
19578s | it's not like he can ping next turn uh |
19580s | if if he pinged like somewhere else |
19583s | anyway because he'd be just night |
19585s | cloaking or drawing cards regardless so |
19586s | why not just do the thing you're always |
19588s | gonna do now get it traded and give |
19590s | yourself some more options |
19592s | yep and gets to freeze and then trade |
19595s | and get this |
19596s | skeleton |
19597s | [Music] |
19600s | things are looking up |
19603s | um well |
19606s | could coin innovate nourish for crystals |
19610s | it would only bring up to six mana next |
19611s | turn |
19613s | uh so no options to like prance the atar |
19617s | there wouldn't even be any cards left |
19619s | in this hand |
19620s | but i give you the ramp out of the way |
19622s | opens up the options for uh upcoming |
19624s | turns so it's like do you want to make a |
19626s | trade yeah yeah sure sure okay i'll take |
19627s | this card okay what can i take nothing |
19631s | there's nothing left |
19636s | which i oh |
19637s | he's playing for himself i know this is |
19639s | just |
19641s | just a very clean curve |
19644s | and a deathborn to follow it up but you |
19646s | know assuming these uh |
19648s | uh these minions stay alive okay planet |
19650s | evans is good |
19652s | uh nice but not cast bull uh |
19655s | capture cult in mind pick up a decided |
19657s | an atheist go into a scale turn |
19665s | i mean it's probably just the best card |
19666s | there anyway right even just |
19669s | removing everything else it's just |
19671s | better it does get the silence off to |
19673s | remove i'll reduce some of this damage |
19675s | uh language hacker looks like he's |
19677s | setting up to be very very uh well this |
19679s | game the only thing i'm worried about tj |
19681s | is this |
19683s | because it looks like he's playing on a |
19684s | tablet or phone |
19686s | i know |
19687s | that |
19688s | tomorrow that's going to be hurting |
19690s | like once it has to be by choice because |
19693s | he obviously has a computer |
19695s | available |
19697s | because |
19698s | there's a webcam it could be his phone |
19701s | and then that's his tablet |
19704s | i guess you can't yeah i guess yeah it |
19706s | could be yeah yeah okay yeah you're |
19708s | right |
19709s | just oh it worries me just to watch as |
19711s | someone who's had |
19712s | been working on their posture for a |
19714s | while now um it pains me to see someone |
19716s | like hunched over that much |
19721s | hey rock it's going to be able to clear |
19723s | this up |
19724s | let's scale over next year |
19727s | old faithful |
19729s | also start to juice after matthew as you |
19731s | said we haven't seen anything big |
19733s | dinatrius wise this tournament so far |
19736s | but |
19737s | he rocks putting himself in a position |
19739s | to and there's no |
19740s | uh theotor from language shaka so far |
19744s | not yet |
19745s | still a while before danatherius |
19747s | can come down and there's also the |
19749s | question of well do you want to just |
19752s | wait till you get guff or kale those to |
19755s | brand it out to try and get a little |
19757s | sneaky lethal |
19759s | i'm a big fan of if you don't have it |
19762s | obviously set up by turn 10 just play |
19766s | danatrius get it played so it doesn't |
19767s | get stolen you do the damage you put a |
19770s | 1010 on the board because it's also |
19772s | something that |
19773s | outside of moderate |
19775s | uh this |
19776s | deck doesn't really deal with big health |
19779s | minions right it takes a while they can |
19781s | freeze them but to actually kill them |
19783s | off it is uh quite the commitment and |
19785s | daenerys with lifesteal does require |
19787s | dealing with at some point |
19789s | oh |
19790s | whoa |
19792s | love stuff |
19793s | guff stuff |
19797s | even language i cannot kill us oh no i |
19799s | need to stretch my neck |
19806s | well that looked like a manner as well |
19810s | oh uh oh no you drew with that so |
19814s | now tj how |
19816s | greedy you become |
19820s | is the denathrius |
19823s | is not lethal levels of bran right |
19827s | yeah |
19829s | it's that i think it's about like 12 |
19831s | because it's just the starfish plus six |
19834s | um welps that have died |
19837s | yes i i was around that number just over |
19839s | 10 was the number i was there bouncing |
19842s | around in my head |
19854s | what if you want to freeze these |
19856s | deathborns |
19858s | are not these deaths freeze these |
19859s | skeletons for the possibility of death |
19862s | just get more |
19864s | maybe use one just to have one next turn |
19866s | in case uh big minion comes out |
19870s | now |
19871s | again i'm a big fan of just doing the |
19874s | play because you have it |
19877s | like it's a threatening board in itself |
19879s | kind of difficult to deal with i don't |
19882s | think language hack is really pinged |
19883s | that much |
19885s | no i feel like he if he you ha if he had |
19887s | theater he would have played it though |
19889s | right because he saw you |
19891s | play |
19892s | oh yeah but the problem is that's fine |
19895s | that's why it's not happened yet but |
19896s | what if he just draws it next to him |
19899s | i guess that you know i mean he has the |
19901s | whole debt at the whole deck he has the |
19903s | play it puts tons of stats on board and |
19906s | it deals a lot of damage like these are |
19908s | ticking all the boxes |
19910s | yeah |
19913s | this commander savara has |
19915s | a death born an arcane intellect and a |
19918s | wildfire i believe oh is it wildfire |
19922s | casts a wildfire |
19924s | did he not have savara when he oh he |
19926s | didn't have survival when he cold case |
19927s | right that was yeah okay okay |
19947s | seems good |
19959s | all right we're getting into uh |
19962s | big siren atheist territory |
19967s | are we though because the thing here is |
19969s | like |
19971s | how |
19972s | much more is a rock gonna realistically |
19974s | juice than atheists |
19979s | unless he's really planning on waiting |
19981s | till the very very very last second here |
19983s | and getting like second scale raid boss |
19986s | you know what i mean which feels like a |
19988s | little bit overkill as you can tell i'm |
19990s | a fan of just playing it as i've said |
19992s | and i'm just scared for a rock |
19996s | throwing amalgam on the board here |
19999s | oh i mean |
20001s | i guess |
20005s | it's burning again |
20008s | i think |
20009s | in any other deck |
20012s | or if i explained this to someone and |
20013s | said you can have this board or you can |
20015s | clear the board and have two and a half |
20018s | minions that are pretty large on there |
20020s | instead what would you rather do |
20027s | i don't know |
20028s | i'd rather kill my opponent |
20033s | well not yet |
20037s | so wildfire and reckless is an option |
20039s | though for language hacker oh yeah to be |
20041s | able to get his modric upright as well |
20043s | oh no |
20044s | it gets his more jar shop |
20046s | just by itself because it's gonna be |
20051s | that disconnect looks like the ping is |
20052s | too high |
20054s | from this reckless |
20057s | hey |
20058s | that was a good one that look at all |
20060s | those ping |
20062s | look at all those pink |
20065s | sounds like a cheat code from our old |
20066s | rts |
20069s | all your ping pong belong to me |
20077s | now we're at what 15. |
20082s | you're the uh official death race |
20083s | counter tj |
20086s | could get it up to 16 with the emerald |
20089s | sky talent |
20091s | thanks for that |
20093s | you're doing a good job |
20103s | oh nixia |
20113s | like this is no bias whatsoever but i |
20115s | would love language hacking to just rip |
20117s | theoton now and just steal the |
20119s | not bring us |
20122s | 22. okay |
20127s | uh so solid alibi does |
20130s | protect against sire denathrius yep does |
20133s | it deal this damage in a chunk |
20136s | also would allow him to just play |
20138s | modresh right and save the freeze on the |
20140s | location for next turn |
20143s | because if you alibi and just clear the |
20145s | raid boss like just |
20154s | probably looking for that theater |
20158s | oh surely it's alibi |
20163s | what what did i say 21 so it's 42 2 i |
20166s | think you said right oh 22. okay |
20169s | that's 44 is there 44 health |
20173s | with the stuff there's six seven eight |
20176s | nine ten eleven plus thirty five oh he's |
20178s | alive |
20182s | but he still just does it right |
20184s | who knows |
20186s | i think he's alive my best cannot change |
20189s | 35 what did i say 11. |
20192s | 46. |
20194s | about this no it's exactly 46. oh is it |
20199s | it's exact |
20200s | it was 23. hi i was off the whole time |
20203s | it was exactly thought no way |
20205s | what a game oh geez |
20208s | hey rock takes it the greed paid off i |
20211s | was worried for him all game though but |
20213s | he got away with it so good job to a |
20215s | rock there gonna partake this series all |
20218s | the way to game number five it's gonna |
20220s | be the mage again for language hacker |
20222s | against the warlock but oh that was so |
20225s | close wasn't it tj and and this is |
20227s | something i do want to ask you because i |
20228s | think it will be relevant with this mage |
20230s | deck going forward um |
20232s | in a match up with dinathias in your |
20235s | opponent's deck |
20237s | when like is there a way to play alibi |
20240s | or is it completely by feel and you've |
20243s | just got to hope |
20244s | yeah complete my feeling just gotta hope |
20246s | like |
20248s | you can kind i guess you gotta you can |
20251s | kind of count how many if you expect |
20254s | cyrodinathias |
20255s | they saw cold tooth right he saw coats |
20257s | with it and then he saw raid boss onyxia |
20259s | come off the top |
20261s | right |
20262s | and there's only two tents |
20264s | so it had it it had to have been in hand |
20266s | so it was guaranteed to be in hand |
20269s | and it was guaranteed to be the first |
20270s | card so if he was counting he |
20272s | he could have counted and known that |
20273s | that would have been exactly though |
20275s | yeah on |
20277s | but he wouldn't have known about the |
20278s | world to expect but wouldn't have known |
20280s | about the brand right right |
20282s | yeah that was a |
20284s | pretty crazy but still does mean that we |
20287s | have one more game to go before we work |
20289s | out who's going to take this series as i |
20291s | said it's the warlock now for a rock |
20294s | back in the old imps with another |
20295s | dinathrius |
20297s | deck |
20298s | against this mage but again i do think |
20300s | this mage has got a lot of game versus |
20302s | this warlock for me |
20304s | i think |
20306s | i'm going to keep talking about this |
20307s | matty version of the deck that was |
20308s | playing but for me again another reason |
20311s | why the lack of deathborne and |
20314s | kel'thuzad is a positive because in |
20316s | these kind of matchups well are you |
20318s | really expecting to just get to turn six |
20320s | and then that wins you the game and |
20322s | maybe not but we'll see how it pays off |
20324s | but regardless the freeze the ping |
20325s | effects reckless and so on all good |
20329s | things to go against warlock with oh |
20331s | yeah oh look at this just about |
20333s | oh my gosh |
20335s | oh my gosh he's gonna out minion the |
20338s | import look at this right filthy |
20342s | this is the good stuff right here look |
20344s | and the curve just works out perfectly |
20346s | too because the shipping sources will |
20348s | reduce one of the cold case so you can |
20349s | go shipping sorceress coin |
20352s | either sanctum or cold case |
20355s | yeah just whatever's better right |
20356s | yeah |
20360s | in this case probably oh my gosh it's a |
20363s | part of two |
20365s | savara will have what coin cold case |
20367s | cold case yeah or maybe even coin cold |
20370s | case i can intellect depends on how far |
20372s | ahead language hacker is right |
20374s | yeah |
20375s | obviously heavily depends on how the |
20377s | turns work out but still go gonna go |
20379s | sanctum |
20381s | yeah that's fine |
20382s | start using it right the earlier he uses |
20384s | the first one the earlier you can use |
20386s | the second crop and so on |
20388s | don't mind this |
20399s | all right |
20405s | even just dog grass just |
20407s | in there ready to go |
20409s | probably because that's the thing as |
20411s | well if you get to dawn grasp safely the |
20414s | hero power just destroys warlock right |
20416s | because they're normally quite low at |
20417s | that point anyway |
20419s | yeah i mean this is a pretty good curve |
20421s | for a rock though he gets to go |
20422s | mischievous imp |
20424s | into |
20426s | bartender into |
20437s | it's like really good hands for both |
20438s | players |
20440s | we want to see |
20443s | i like i honestly think a rock comes out |
20446s | on top of this one i think he has way |
20447s | too many minions way too much minion |
20448s | pressure for language hacker to deal |
20450s | with |
20452s | what to do another bartender is going to |
20454s | be so many stats even with one minion |
20456s | traded over even if this skeleton trades |
20459s | over |
20460s | the blood bound and it hits a 1-1 |
20463s | and then freezes a mischievous imp |
20466s | that's still |
20467s | a ton of power on board that's still 13 |
20470s | damage that's going to be going |
20473s | yeah |
20474s | there's no world in which uh language |
20475s | hacker freezes with amplified right now |
20478s | i didn't think so |
20479s | something you know it's going to be a |
20480s | much better term next term with |
20482s | amplified i think |
20483s | yeah the top shelf is |
20487s | bartender into reform this is |
20491s | outside of like that library coming down |
20493s | at some point this is like |
20495s | oh idea oh |
20503s | i thought you could still amplify this |
20504s | turn i thought it was on six mana i was |
20506s | like does he freeze first and kill one |
20513s | hmm |
20514s | it's tricky |
20516s | like |
20519s | oh what |
20521s | trades and stuff this turn |
20524s | very awkward because of where the |
20525s | skeletons may or may not go with the |
20527s | death rattles |
20529s | could go savara coin amplified |
20538s | oh okay |
20539s | good little ping |
20540s | pickle up one extra |
20542s | yeah gee i like holding up on the vardin |
20547s | yeah i'm on board with you tj coin |
20550s | amplified now freeze one |
20552s | on me |
20553s | gets to save the fight because the |
20554s | bargain is |
20555s | pretty much just a hard stop right to |
20558s | warlock there's just nothing you can |
20560s | really do if your whole boards froze |
20565s | finally minions |
20569s | oh |
20570s | didn't take long for language hacker to |
20572s | turn into language clapping |
20581s | there any way you can lethal over two |
20584s | turns |
20587s | um you push all face you freeze and |
20589s | minion and then you dawn grass i think |
20591s | you freeze after dawn grasp so you don't |
20595s | like |
20595s | kill a minion because you don't want to |
20597s | leave board space up i guess |
20599s | no he |
20600s | he could |
20603s | [Music] |
20605s | he could freeze and put the imp king to |
20607s | low right it wouldn't kill it oh or this |
20611s | here or the big one yeah yeah that yeah |
20612s | yeah all that whatever yeah |
20614s | freeze a big one put him to low and then |
20616s | make him a little bit more killable but |
20618s | i think in this world he would need like |
20622s | already you've played wildfire and then |
20624s | like exactly bran reckless or something |
20627s | stupid |
20628s | there's there's ten |
20632s | on board |
20633s | oh we got the wildfires |
20635s | um dawngrass does not achieve much |
20641s | you have to frost frost weave dungeoneer |
20644s | into no it's not enough man off right |
20648s | into frozen touch what about double |
20650s | frozen touch arcane elected to double |
20652s | frozen touch or uh arcane intellect |
20657s | arcane intellect into solid alibi and |
20659s | then you kill two things |
20662s | but then you're not getting any closer |
20663s | to |
20665s | lethal i think i think i can intellect |
20668s | in a double touch |
20670s | oh it wasn't touch oh like this oh okay |
20673s | one mana |
20675s | off lethal |
20682s | there's nothing else right |
20686s | you can |
20688s | do a few trades but there's simply too |
20690s | many large |
20692s | mp boys on the board |
20701s | quick touch phase pink and uh hope for |
20703s | the concede |
20704s | well |
20705s | why these disconnects happen exactly |
20707s | when they ping or when they try to |
20712s | he rocks like let me win don't don't |
20715s | give me this kind of suspense a-rock |
20717s | genuinely does not know whether he's |
20719s | dead or not |
20726s | not dead buddy |
20739s | oh you'll probably see the hero power |
20740s | now |
20742s | there's a curse of agony in the deck |
20744s | from left field out absolutely nowhere |
20748s | and that's going to be the game there |
20749s | for a rock and the series yeah wipe that |
20753s | sweat from your brow that was a close |
20755s | one multiple games in that series that |
20758s | came down to the wire a stressful one no |
20761s | doubt but it does mean that a rock's |
20763s | gonna be sitting at six one going into |
20767s | the final round of swiss next so uh |
20769s | really really good victory for him |
20771s | they're gonna put him in a great |
20773s | position to make it that top 16. |
20775s | yeah and uh language hacker is still a |
20778s | very small chance his second loss came |
20780s | late enough to where if he does win the |
20782s | final round and his tiebreakers are good |
20784s | enough |
20785s | um then uh |
20788s | he does have a shot at making top 16 |
20791s | but a lot of the time top 16 the players |
20795s | that have two losses that go to the top |
20796s | 16 are players that took their second |
20798s | loss in the final round right |
20801s | we've seen in the past players that have |
20803s | taken a second loss earlier but just had |
20806s | the the players that they were beating |
20808s | earlier on the tournament ended up like |
20810s | winning out a lot right so |
20812s | um yeah |
20813s | based on the tiebreaker rules so it's |
20815s | possible uh it's not out of the question |
20817s | but it's going to be unlikely from this |
20819s | point yeah that's the thing for me uh we |
20822s | can talk about how likely or unlikely |
20823s | things are but we find out for sure when |
20825s | round eight eight is finished and the |
20827s | actual placements are confirmed uh so we |
20830s | get all that sorted soon that is it for |
20832s | the first match from around seven we do |
20835s | have a little bit more coming up though |
20836s | but me and tj are gonna go for a little |
20838s | break before we set out to end the day |
20840s | so don't go anywhere we'll be back with |
20841s | some more hearthstone |
20843s | right after this |
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20913s | [Music] |
20921s | what's up |
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20954s | [Music] |
20966s | so |
20973s | [Music] |
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20988s | [Music] |
21007s | [Music] |
21019s | so |
21021s | [Music] |
21041s | welcome back everybody to round seven |
21044s | here at masters tour murder at castle |
21045s | nathria and i'm with adolf ice who gets |
21048s | another chance to show off her |
21049s | hearthstone skills and casting ability |
21052s | you having fun today and yesterday so |
21054s | far |
21055s | yeah you are my last |
21057s | new pairing right so excited to talk |
21059s | some hearthstone with you and |
21061s | continue the trend of me casting with uh |
21064s | someone cosplaying as creepy portrait |
21066s | from this expansion hey this is a very |
21068s | good portrait i'll have you know |
21071s | been hours working on this back in 2014 |
21073s | it's fine |
21074s | um we're getting you one at some point |
21076s | i'm sure but the candles kind of you |
21078s | know they set off my cheeks quite well |
21079s | so i'm quite happy with this |
21081s | but we are going to go into a match |
21082s | between oh and plastic now plastic uh |
21086s | top eight in the last tournament at |
21088s | masters tour this year um four |
21090s | tournaments ago went one and something |
21093s | five or something horrible and has just |
21095s | been getting better and better |
21097s | throughout resulting that top eight and |
21099s | somebody i think we should be paying |
21101s | attention to because when people get |
21102s | that good that quickly |
21104s | uh it can be lucky if they do it once |
21106s | but here's plastic again doing it a |
21108s | second time oh for all i can find this |
21111s | is their first masters tour so |
21114s | we'll see how this continues and opening |
21117s | up here with a 1-0 lead i believe we're |
21119s | going in but play the warlock in this |
21122s | one |
21124s | yeah you always hope that when it's |
21126s | someone's first time at an event like |
21128s | this first time on broadcast that |
21130s | they're not going to break under the |
21131s | nerves that can sometimes catch people |
21133s | by surprise even right they think |
21135s | they're going to be fine but then just |
21136s | the thought of having so many people |
21138s | watching them just a little bit of extra |
21140s | pressure on all the plays maybe it slows |
21141s | you down just a little bit you don't |
21142s | finish a turn so we'll see how her is |
21145s | able to handle it |
21146s | one oh to lead though certainly a good |
21147s | start |
21149s | you've played in incredibly high level |
21151s | events |
21152s | multiple times of course on camera |
21155s | how terrifying is it like what is it |
21157s | that's scary is it is it just the nerves |
21159s | in general or is there this fear that |
21160s | people are going to be judging how badly |
21162s | you play or |
21164s | yeah if you make a silly mistake what |
21165s | actually leads to all these nerves |
21168s | you know i think it's really the second |
21169s | one right just sort of the the thought |
21171s | that oh there's so many people watching |
21172s | and it's just gonna be so front and |
21174s | center if i make a mistake uh pretty |
21177s | much |
21178s | it's like i'm fine the rest of the |
21179s | tournament that you know there's always |
21180s | some pressure in terms of how well |
21182s | you're performing but when you're on a |
21184s | broadcast there's there's just that |
21185s | added level of oh gosh you know |
21188s | everyone's gonna see me if i screw up so |
21191s | and part of the mark of a season player |
21194s | is how well you're able to just kind of |
21195s | get over that over time and and just get |
21198s | used to it say hey i'm here because i |
21199s | deserve to be here and just not let it |
21201s | affect you |
21202s | yeah and i like the way you worded that |
21204s | as well for what i've done speaking to |
21206s | other top players about getting used to |
21208s | it a lot of people never actually get |
21210s | over it they just learn to deal with the |
21212s | fact it's there |
21213s | um i've spoken to several of the the |
21215s | very top players who still get nervous |
21217s | they say but now i'm used to being |
21219s | nervous so it's okay but they don't not |
21221s | get nervous anymore it seems to never go |
21223s | away for some of them and then there's |
21224s | people like blizz who looks like he's |
21226s | never nervous just sits there and plays |
21228s | hearthstone and goes home |
21230s | [Music] |
21231s | kind of reminds me of that saying right |
21233s | that it's it's bravery isn't about not |
21236s | being afraid it's about being able to |
21238s | face your fears and deal with them so i |
21240s | imagine it kind of is a similar dynamic |
21244s | okay well plastic will be feeling a bit |
21246s | nervous right now one zero down in this |
21249s | round seven encounter both of them i |
21251s | think are five and one yet confirmation |
21253s | there on screen thank you |
21255s | um so |
21257s | a big game between the warlock and the |
21259s | the naga priest obviously we've spoken a |
21261s | lot about shadow word devour today but |
21263s | if you don't get it i'll never mind we |
21264s | don't need to talk about if you don't |
21265s | get it because he's got |
21267s | it you can go there if you want what |
21269s | happens if you don't get the devourer in |
21271s | this matchup while we watch it kill some |
21272s | m's |
21275s | you know if you don't get the devour |
21277s | then you're just sort of hoping that |
21278s | they don't have something like a |
21279s | fiendish circle right or or wicked |
21281s | shipment i think you just |
21284s | are |
21285s | wanting to hit into some of the bigger |
21287s | minions maybe make something big enough |
21288s | to trade into imp gang boss without them |
21291s | generating any |
21292s | uh one ones |
21294s | but uh yeah usually you're almost happy |
21297s | to see them have those wider boards |
21299s | because of shadow word devour so that |
21301s | you can take advantage just make some |
21303s | kind of minion they're not going to be |
21304s | able to clear i think both shadow wear |
21305s | devour and blademaster samurai are two |
21308s | very important tools for this matchup |
21309s | just to set up swing turns |
21311s | yeah and he's gonna need them because |
21313s | has managed to get that |
21314s | sort of start we've seen a lot of |
21316s | flaming interlibrary to just make a |
21318s | thing that's big enough that it can |
21319s | survive |
21320s | and so plastic gonna have to just be |
21322s | patient take some damage and try and set |
21325s | up a decent samurai to clear this |
21329s | although with the library activation i |
21332s | don't know how possible that's gonna be |
21334s | i think the intent here was being able |
21337s | to hold on to a |
21339s | uh |
21340s | samuro coin valeesh |
21343s | bless |
21344s | and |
21345s | that's no longer an option when the |
21347s | minion buff is is so large so |
21351s | uh just having to make a taunt here i |
21353s | don't know how well this is going to |
21354s | hold up |
21356s | you can coin the leash bless just to |
21359s | sort of force the opponent to trade in |
21362s | yeah he's looking at it i think he's |
21364s | calculating |
21365s | do i have to do this or what can i do |
21367s | with a samurai next turn |
21369s | with coin priestess and wig but yeah |
21373s | your play or variant of it at least is |
21376s | you do what he has to do |
21381s | yeah i like this getting the wig in is |
21382s | effectively free because of the leash uh |
21386s | so you can just get that add a little |
21388s | bit of extra stats hope they're not able |
21390s | to punch through and the fact that this |
21391s | is one of your few naturally taunted |
21394s | minions |
21394s | unless they're able to pick up a |
21396s | starfish it's just no getting through it |
21399s | right so then you don't even need to |
21401s | rely on something like summoner or bless |
21402s | you can just have the big taunt buying |
21404s | you time and now you've got a fully |
21406s | juiced handmaiden as well if they choose |
21408s | to |
21409s | not trade in and wait then you're able |
21411s | to do something like boon to the |
21412s | ascendant so i'm not surprised to see |
21414s | these trades go in just to avoid that |
21417s | scenario and also to infuse this reform |
21420s | just to come down next turn |
21422s | now do it again go on plastic |
21425s | no bless available this time though so |
21427s | it will just be um |
21428s | a blocker for a turn whilst looking for |
21431s | other stuff this time around |
21434s | yeah see giant not really what you want |
21436s | to see on the other side of your |
21437s | opponent's clear turn and imp king or |
21439s | farm even more so |
21441s | i think |
21442s | that was sort of the all-in play from |
21444s | plastic and |
21446s | unless a bless is picked up off the top |
21448s | here |
21449s | there's not really going to be any |
21451s | chance to pull back in the game |
21453s | yeah and this time as well with |
21455s | bartender in hand it's just going to get |
21457s | worse and worse |
21461s | you can do double wig and sort of |
21463s | sacrifice your wig |
21466s | just to |
21467s | get the samuro up to three attack |
21470s | lets you deal with everything but the |
21472s | sea giant |
21476s | okay |
21477s | [Music] |
21492s | yeah you just end up leaving up a five |
21494s | two or five one right |
21496s | any which way you do this |
21498s | yep yep yeah this is better i |
21500s | miscalculated a little bit sort of |
21501s | forgot about the slither spear attack |
21503s | buffs uh so yeah much much safer |
21506s | although |
21507s | still was a lot of pressure |
21510s | impending catastrophe could draw two |
21512s | cards here for uhuru |
21515s | lots of the toughest boards out of the |
21517s | way i suppose but anything that does |
21519s | manage to stick could |
21521s | get buffed by something like a shitty |
21523s | bartender |
21524s | i think this matchup is so interesting |
21526s | because it's just a high density of back |
21529s | and forth board tension between the two |
21532s | sides over the course of you know |
21534s | usually no more than eight or so turns |
21537s | yeah and with a wig gone now i mean it |
21540s | was it needed to we've gone a bless gone |
21542s | it's going to be harder and harder for |
21544s | for plastic to hang in there the devour |
21546s | gone as well so this is allowing ahu |
21548s | just to ignore the mini minion on the |
21551s | board and just go face it's looking |
21553s | really really good maybe plastic can do |
21556s | something with the boom next term but |
21558s | it's going to need some help to do that |
21562s | yeah there was a decision there on |
21563s | whether to just go face and inch towards |
21566s | lethal further that way but i think |
21568s | having the shady bartender in hand uh |
21571s | uhuru more feeling like well if i clear |
21573s | this minion then i keep four demons in |
21575s | play it still sets up a lethal |
21578s | very important not to have traded the |
21579s | bartender at all on that last turn to |
21582s | have that potential out |
21583s | so uh unless something very silly is |
21586s | generated here uh to bring up eight |
21589s | i think it's just |
21592s | he went looking for the devourer from |
21593s | the thrive and missed that would have |
21594s | been quite good because he had been able |
21596s | to boon as well um but by missing means |
21599s | he doesn't get to get a taunt he still |
21600s | gets a monstrous |
21602s | a minion but not quite safe yet although |
21606s | definitely a long way towards it there |
21610s | now he's got the boon next turn |
21613s | does work towards stabilizing got to |
21616s | start with a tap here |
21620s | double librarian is not quite it huh i |
21623s | mean would you take the buffs and just |
21625s | sort of go go face or or just |
21629s | trade and look for something better |
21631s | i just hope that |
21633s | your opponent eats through your minions |
21634s | one or two at a time and you somehow get |
21636s | there |
21637s | it's horrible but i think just take the |
21639s | buffs where you've got them |
21642s | i think this is one of the reasons why |
21643s | so many people have included something |
21645s | like curses even though i i know you're |
21647s | not a fan and honestly i'm not a fan |
21649s | either in the mixture that we have seen |
21652s | but it does provide some source of sort |
21654s | of burst damage um awkward as it may be |
21657s | and uh yeah it looks like we are just |
21660s | taking the bartender as many stats on |
21662s | board as possible |
21663s | and hoping that enough things stick to |
21666s | be able to get there |
21668s | i have noticed looking free |
21670s | like the four matches we have lined up |
21671s | each round with the backups included |
21675s | there are more and more curse decks |
21676s | appearing as we get towards the end of |
21678s | this tournament in those lineups each |
21680s | time so it does look like the curse |
21681s | decks are the ones that are rising to |
21683s | the top in fairness um these i don't |
21686s | like them is cause they seem to be |
21687s | inconsistent but again |
21689s | like you've just described these |
21690s | situations come up far less frequently |
21692s | if you have got the curses you've got a |
21694s | bit of finishing power |
21697s | ah |
21700s | being picked up here and with the |
21703s | you know free uh thing we could have |
21705s | gone for |
21706s | shard but |
21709s | i'm a little |
21710s | surprised we didn't go for a shard there |
21712s | you could have removed some of the stats |
21714s | and then taken a trade over the 4-4 just |
21716s | put yourself in a little bit better |
21717s | position but i suppose plastic thinking |
21720s | with the 516 taunt not much really gets |
21722s | through that anyways |
21724s | yeah would have still been able to do |
21726s | everything if he does end up cutting his |
21728s | own minion as well uh well uh shard is |
21732s | not |
21732s | symmetrical right so |
21735s | just silences oh yeah i'm being |
21737s | okay it's that time of day |
21739s | yeah radiant in play just reduces all |
21742s | your ones to zeros so you can kind of do |
21744s | whatever you want yeah ghost of course |
21746s | being picked up means |
21748s | next wig turns into a bless so |
21751s | very high potential for just lethal on |
21753s | the side of plastic on the next turn |
21756s | maybe assess the the farm was the only |
21758s | way he loses |
21760s | rafale has already played so yeah so |
21763s | running out of ideas gigafin is the only |
21765s | way he loses that doesn't work either |
21766s | because then you silence it don't get |
21767s | them back um |
21768s | [Music] |
21770s | don't know yeah and uhuru does have this |
21774s | just straight up implod that was kind of |
21776s | seen earlier on but so many have shifted |
21779s | away from |
21780s | where it's got |
21781s | double c giant you know double bartender |
21784s | the one of starfish a couple of grimoire |
21786s | of sacrifice |
21788s | so it is just all in on that early |
21790s | pressure with library etc and i think |
21794s | naga priest is just even more able to |
21796s | deal with that because as soon as you're |
21797s | able to take hold of the board you just |
21799s | kind of keep it under your control yeah |
21801s | very traditional aggro deck obviously |
21804s | yeah things have got more powerful over |
21805s | time but basically the same as usual if |
21807s | you stop the flow there's very little |
21810s | way for it to get back into it so as |
21812s | soon as you set up a |
21814s | the game |
21815s | obviously you have to play it out things |
21817s | can happen but |
21818s | it's basically over the second you stop |
21820s | the damage coming in |
21821s | especially |
21822s | you can heal a bit if you're really |
21823s | desperate |
21825s | i think it's realized just as lethal you |
21827s | know pelegos making each wig into a |
21829s | bless both of the large minions survived |
21832s | you just get to |
21833s | punch through with the shard and finish |
21834s | that one up |
21836s | yeah i guess by saving i'm just curious |
21838s | now about why |
21839s | he did actually save the the shard but |
21843s | if there's more taunts played i think it |
21844s | just meant that he always had lethal |
21845s | this turn so maybe that was his |
21847s | reasoning knowing that he was safe don't |
21849s | know |
21849s | but i do know he's got it to one game |
21852s | all and that looked very very |
21855s | clean like it's not an easy deck to play |
21857s | well and he seems like instantly know |
21859s | all the decisions he wanted to make each |
21861s | time |
21864s | yeah i think wig priest is one of those |
21866s | where it you know it feels really really |
21868s | good when you're able to make it work |
21870s | and then the games where it doesn't |
21871s | you're just like why am i playing this |
21873s | pile of cards together they don't seem |
21875s | to do anything |
21876s | and it seemed very very dire straights |
21878s | for quite a while they're |
21880s | honestly very impressed to see plastique |
21883s | pick that one up had just the right |
21885s | tools able to you know put off using the |
21887s | samuro and then have it for that big |
21890s | swing turn pretty much the only card |
21892s | that's able to save you when im king |
21894s | rafam comes down on curve fully juiced |
21896s | as it was in that case |
21900s | and so have a look what they're going to |
21902s | queue up next but i believe it's going |
21904s | to be the rogue for plastic and we're |
21906s | going to get a chance to look at |
21908s | i've been calling it tempo vogue in the |
21910s | stat in the |
21911s | sheet but it's miracle vogue isn't it |
21913s | basically |
21915s | the name that everyone's using |
21917s | i think it's a bit of a debate right |
21918s | there's no gadgets in auctioneer which |
21920s | is really the iconic card for miracle |
21922s | rogue because then it's all about |
21923s | playing spells and drawing cards and |
21926s | this doesn't quite have as much of that |
21927s | i suppose there's an argument to be made |
21929s | that |
21930s | edwin sort of serves that role edwin |
21933s | defies kingpin and since you get him so |
21936s | reliably off of shroud of concealment |
21938s | maybe that's just what we should focus |
21940s | on just call it miracle rogue um |
21943s | you know we've been calling it |
21945s | lambie rogue just amongst ourselves |
21946s | because we know who made it but that |
21948s | doesn't really help people in terms of |
21950s | how it plays out right |
21952s | yeah i'm never sure we we talk about |
21954s | this way too much off stream but not so |
21956s | much on stream like what to call decks |
21958s | in terms of do you want to describe a |
21960s | deck for what it does so |
21962s | mid-range hunter great thrilling tells |
21965s | viewers and people are like what it does |
21968s | but god it's boring or do you have |
21969s | something like zoo which just means what |
21971s | does that mean i want to see what a zoo |
21973s | does that sounds exciting where do you |
21975s | stand on naming decks well we just wait |
21977s | to see this weak priest because we've |
21978s | seen this a million times |
21980s | you know i do sort of prefer the more |
21982s | interesting names i know when i'm just |
21984s | building decks in my collection that |
21986s | don't really have anything particular |
21988s | i'll come up with with wacky names that |
21990s | of course are too long to really use as |
21992s | an actual archetype name in some kind of |
21994s | stats but i think something like spooky |
21997s | mage is is really ideal right people |
21999s | know what you're talking about they know |
22001s | they're excited about taking a look at |
22003s | the list because uh well there's no card |
22006s | called spooky that doesn't actually tell |
22007s | you anything about the deck but he gets |
22009s | you excited about it right whereas |
22011s | skeleton mage is more descriptive but |
22013s | you know a little less exciting still |
22015s | better though then |
22017s | control class |
22018s | aggro class right which we have |
22021s | vogue yeah here we are yeah exactly |
22023s | that'd be my argument for calling it |
22026s | lambie or miracle or somebody'll come up |
22028s | with a funny name that makes sense at |
22029s | some point as well and we haven't had to |
22031s | see it that many times on broadcast yet |
22034s | and what interests me about this deck is |
22035s | the decisions you need to make as to how |
22038s | big how greedy do you go |
22040s | because a lot of the time just just |
22042s | using your stuff making |
22044s | small enough minion but really early is |
22046s | often just the way to win the game |
22049s | yeah we've seen how sort of waiting to |
22052s | pop off in a massive way can end up |
22055s | punishing you if you wait too long |
22057s | because it just gives the opponent more |
22059s | time to build things up to roll you over |
22061s | shroud of concealment is a really |
22064s | powerful draw tool in this deck because |
22066s | of how few minions there are |
22068s | but in the early game that is a pretty |
22069s | big mana investment so |
22071s | it's always tricky to find that balance |
22073s | of when is the right moment to pop off i |
22076s | think particularly against something |
22078s | like wig priest that can snowball so |
22081s | heavily in the early game although |
22083s | perhaps not with this hand |
22086s | yeah no minions at all not ideal as you |
22090s | can see from a who is rather confused |
22092s | perplexed look like give me something |
22095s | okay that's something |
22098s | giving me some memories of a certain |
22100s | fury hunter game earlier uh yesterday |
22104s | and |
22105s | yeah plastique may just |
22108s | take the trade it's gonna reduce your |
22110s | nals more second shroud you know it's |
22112s | it's a slower hand from plastique but |
22114s | it's still shaping up i almost wonder if |
22117s | with a hand like this as a guru you just |
22118s | coin out the pelagos |
22121s | i think you might yeah i just say okay |
22122s | my opponent's going slow we know they're |
22124s | going to explode because that's what |
22125s | this deck does i think that might be |
22127s | quite a good thing to do |
22129s | it shouldn't be destroyed on six it |
22131s | might be but |
22134s | well the slither spear pickup is quite |
22137s | welcome i think particularly with the |
22139s | wig found from thrive in the shadows uh |
22142s | certainly rogue does have a cap on how |
22146s | much damage it can deal so i imagine |
22148s | you're wanting to work towards some kind |
22150s | of you know very massive minion they |
22152s | won't be able to deal with |
22154s | but finally some some nagatop decks here |
22157s | uh working out a little better for uhuru |
22160s | i |
22161s | think you could just |
22163s | make a couple of small boards but that |
22164s | does leave you vulnerable to bone spike |
22169s | yeah |
22170s | is there much you can do about it though |
22172s | if you don't present an argument on the |
22174s | board your opponent's just going to be |
22175s | able to do what they want anyway |
22180s | it's kind of a who's going to blink |
22181s | first situation in terms of yes starting |
22184s | to go in on their their combo term |
22188s | remember when we used to cast shade of |
22190s | next farmers back in the day the the |
22192s | caster thing to talk about was always |
22195s | why if they just died with a 13-13 shade |
22197s | they played on turn two that they never |
22199s | attacked with |
22201s | oh i remember those days |
22205s | i don't know like you do that helps so |
22207s | much yeah exactly it is like okay well |
22210s | why didn't you just attack with it when |
22211s | it was a six six and win the game nope |
22213s | one to the 13 13 so i could lose the |
22215s | game |
22216s | this deck is going to remind me of that |
22217s | a lot you'll hear me say that again at |
22218s | some point i'm sure |
22222s | well in the double knull pickup is quite |
22225s | nice for this turn the bone spike can |
22227s | clean up the scribe and then play the |
22229s | sin stone graveyard onto the board then |
22232s | you drop both knulls which will remain |
22234s | stealthed |
22236s | oh |
22237s | wow this is the full greed |
22240s | oh my |
22245s | i don't know if i like it or not but |
22246s | it's going to be exciting |
22249s | i mean it's going for a big draco weapon |
22251s | right which i i guess i don't hate when |
22253s | you know you've gotta have big things to |
22256s | remove |
22257s | but |
22258s | oh i don't know i might have just taken |
22260s | the |
22261s | the minions on board that last turn |
22264s | it does also though |
22266s | withhold some information from your |
22267s | opponent |
22269s | in terms of they might make mistakes on |
22271s | sizing of their minions if they don't |
22272s | know you've got double knoll they know |
22274s | they know you've got at least one i |
22275s | think from how things have gone but they |
22277s | might make mistakes and |
22279s | underrated aspect of hearthstone |
22281s | sometimes |
22283s | yeah maybe they think you just picked up |
22285s | you know krabatoa edwin something like |
22287s | that some of the more clunky minions but |
22291s | thinking about this next turn |
22293s | how big can we make this right you've |
22295s | got |
22296s | bone spike location |
22299s | null null one drop draca |
22302s | you could even step the null if you like |
22304s | yeah you can also kill the 88 in the |
22306s | process |
22310s | probably losing gold but just just get |
22312s | rid of like a 10 10 but i think you |
22313s | still get rid of it three six |
22317s | yeah and and this has to be the turn |
22319s | right |
22321s | yeah |
22322s | yeah you have to spike |
22325s | you have to spike one of the minions |
22327s | that can die right |
22328s | made that mistake before right you don't |
22330s | actually get the discount unless it |
22332s | kills a minion |
22334s | do that then you read the card you're |
22336s | like oh i see what the card does now |
22338s | yeah i've done that twice once when i |
22340s | you know didn't read the card and when |
22342s | it was stupid and awful |
22356s | is it actually enough to clear |
22360s | oh i see with the ordering here so |
22363s | utilizing the serrated bone spike |
22366s | for killing |
22369s | bellicose oh we're going to use the |
22370s | weapon yeah we're just going to take |
22372s | 10 and not |
22373s | okay |
22375s | very good see i always lose track of how |
22378s | big the weapon in even is so uh very |
22380s | well thought out keeps the most power on |
22382s | board and still a very large weapon to |
22386s | clear things from the side of uhuru a |
22388s | little bit awkward in terms of |
22390s | not |
22391s | like we're going into potentially |
22393s | crabatoa turns so that's not great in |
22395s | terms of weapon use i imagine it'll just |
22397s | be |
22398s | maybe an edwin played |
22400s | but with this much in |
22403s | like board presence for plastique it's |
22406s | okay to have a slow follow-up turn |
22409s | absolutely and you know worst case i |
22410s | don't know i had to use a crabatoa to |
22412s | win the game losing my weapons sure |
22415s | um just keeping the police off the board |
22416s | we all know that that's usually |
22419s | you know easier said than done now but |
22421s | with your opponent having quite a |
22422s | powerful term the term before the |
22424s | likelihood is you're through the worst |
22428s | this is just |
22429s | forcing a response from the priest that |
22431s | they probably don't have |
22437s | even |
22438s | stepping at the edwin here for |
22441s | further draw next turn where you still |
22444s | have one last charge of this so you can |
22446s | go for a massive edwin turn use the |
22448s | location and follow that up with a |
22450s | kravitoa |
22451s | looking pretty solid for the side of the |
22454s | road right now i think uhuru is |
22456s | wanting to pick up something like |
22458s | asamiro |
22459s | are you okay with not using the location |
22461s | last turn i know it's going to be a lot |
22462s | bigger next turn but having something |
22464s | down now seems kind of moisture |
22468s | uh it's also important for getting card |
22470s | draw right when you're sort of |
22472s | this starved for for resources and a way |
22475s | of actually swinging the board like you |
22478s | need you basically need to find blade |
22480s | master somebody so i i think that would |
22482s | have been a way to try and come back i |
22484s | mean the taunt is nice i'm sorry i meant |
22486s | to play jack pick up this |
22488s | oh i made just like a four four or five |
22490s | five and just had it |
22492s | oh |
22493s | yeah i i agree with that i think people |
22496s | do sometimes tunnel vision on the sides |
22498s | and ends up being a 4-4 anyway |
22503s | but yeah now it's all set up obviously |
22505s | um some of those you were talking about |
22507s | before i cut you off so rudely does |
22509s | appear |
22510s | no it's it's uh it's not a full clear |
22513s | but it's a really good one |
22516s | very good |
22517s | location stop you dying yeah |
22522s | seems important right about now |
22528s | well maybe that's why uh plastic didn't |
22530s | use the location last time playing |
22532s | around samurai |
22534s | yeah that's that's you see from the look |
22535s | on his space that's exactly what he did |
22536s | last turn that's why he didn't make the |
22538s | minion before so he had um |
22543s | i assumed it wasn't there and of that of |
22545s | course yeah comes up off the top |
22547s | okay that woman |
22548s | is still |
22550s | pretty solid follow-up though |
22553s | you're not bad and wicked stab it's it's |
22556s | all coming together |
22559s | time to start counting but i can't see |
22560s | the board |
22563s | i believe it's one off this turn |
22567s | fine |
22568s | take the stab |
22574s | yeah one off because if we had perhaps |
22576s | the stab it would be dealing with before |
22578s | so |
22581s | but shadowcraft for scabs |
22583s | quite good for a reset and then having |
22585s | two stealth minions uh particularly with |
22588s | samuro being used |
22590s | it would just be double devour that you |
22592s | would be worried about |
22594s | and |
22595s | all the taunts are gone as well |
22597s | naturally barring |
22602s | pretty good steel here |
22605s | yeah this is |
22606s | an attempt to come back say this steel's |
22609s | nice |
22611s | it takes away the krabatoa from the |
22613s | rogue in terms of bounce as well but i'm |
22616s | not sure |
22619s | this just gets there now with the two |
22621s | damage from the |
22623s | insert |
22628s | plastic you |
22629s | run two games to one in pretty quick |
22632s | time after going one zero down |
22635s | and only the one that left with that is |
22637s | going to be |
22639s | [Music] |
22642s | the warlock |
22645s | which is we'll get there in a minute |
22647s | [Music] |
22649s | uh a regular block |
22653s | yeah it's got the |
22655s | kale those package i guess we would say |
22657s | molecular when it's fully infused costs |
22659s | zero mana which lets you go kale thus |
22661s | murlocula into whatever you please in |
22663s | this case the top end is gigafin and |
22666s | cyrodinathrius i don't know how often |
22668s | that actually happens but it is a sort |
22670s | of fun interaction and many players seem |
22672s | to have brought it so it must be |
22673s | performing reasonably well |
22676s | yeah uh again we've gone into this |
22679s | tournament with a weird situation where |
22681s | there's not many deck archetypes but |
22683s | within those archetypes there's a |
22684s | million different builds |
22686s | because people said okay this is the |
22688s | sort of thing that i want to do |
22690s | how is everyone else doing it how can i |
22691s | do it better |
22693s | but there wasn't enough time for |
22694s | everyone to build every available |
22696s | archetype in these matters i just |
22697s | finished up to the tried and trusted |
22699s | stuff and hoped they could out tech |
22701s | their opponents and so far |
22703s | i think that the imps that are doing the |
22704s | best are people who are probably the |
22706s | ones with curses in which |
22707s | is interesting to me |
22709s | [Music] |
22710s | interesting to me as well it you know it |
22712s | messes with the stats a little bit |
22713s | because i think anything with curses is |
22715s | just showing up as curse lock so it's |
22717s | hard to say how a fully cursed warlock |
22720s | is actually performing if we have so |
22723s | many imp curse locks and you know |
22726s | whatever weird in between space |
22729s | but yeah as you say i mean between these |
22731s | two players even three classes shared |
22735s | in in the shaman warlock and priest and |
22739s | then each of them has picked a different |
22741s | fourth |
22742s | with made for uhuru and rogue for |
22744s | plastique |
22746s | but yes then between those shared |
22749s | classes there's still certain card |
22751s | choices different etc uh so |
22755s | really a game of edges this whole |
22757s | tournament i think |
22759s | yeah gigafin might be quite important |
22760s | here because one of the decks remaining |
22762s | for a hero is that priest |
22764s | um it's kind of uh okay |
22766s | uh we lose to peace don't we because we |
22768s | get devoured let's what can we do about |
22770s | that i know let's just eat all those big |
22772s | minions off the board and reset all of |
22774s | their stuff |
22777s | well and dredlich champson as well is |
22780s | kind of uh |
22781s | goofy you know usually you'd think i'm |
22783s | an aggressive deck why would i want to |
22784s | include a card that just deals three |
22786s | damage to my board too but it turns your |
22789s | hero power into this thing where you |
22791s | just generate imps randomly it gets rid |
22794s | of the downside of two life |
22796s | and uh |
22798s | i don't know about you but i always feel |
22799s | like at least one gets drawn off of the |
22802s | three cards oh yeah of course especially |
22804s | well for my opponents of course yeah |
22806s | yeah i think i did one of those things |
22807s | where you shout at your imaginary |
22809s | opponent the first time they played |
22810s | tamsu how can you play that card you |
22812s | idiot then of course they destroyed me |
22814s | and i realized he was a good deck after |
22815s | all and i felt like the idiot which was |
22817s | probably true |
22820s | so choosing to keep this one two in the |
22824s | hand because it's one and two obviously |
22826s | absolutely not the one two start you |
22828s | want but |
22830s | you know |
22831s | malignant on going first you might as |
22833s | well have something to do |
22838s | yep plastic even doing a little bit of |
22840s | chip damage there just because health on |
22842s | minions is so relevant um i'm curious to |
22846s | see if this is just going to be an early |
22849s | you know coin pelagos priestess devour |
22853s | to make a very massive minion that would |
22856s | be one way to try and just cut |
22858s | like take control of the board very |
22860s | early another route you could take would |
22862s | be to just coin out the |
22864s | location and kind of get that rolling |
22866s | fight for board a bit take a more |
22871s | relaxed approach i guess |
22873s | knowing that the location will be back |
22875s | online for the turn that you play blade |
22876s | master samurai which can be a nice clear |
22880s | yeah i'm a big fan of the pedo ghost but |
22882s | we saw him not do that last time in fact |
22884s | he's taking an even slow about just |
22886s | healing up wow |
22888s | okay i don't know about this oh |
22893s | i think plastic is is as a nod to shadow |
22896s | where devoured not playing that fiendish |
22898s | circle off the top uh which is |
22901s | very heads-up play uh just keeping the |
22904s | board clear |
22905s | providing a little bit of incentive for |
22907s | a devourer to be played but not wanting |
22910s | to get fully blown out by that card i |
22912s | will find him here comes the pelagos as |
22914s | saved for this situation a plastic sort |
22916s | of |
22917s | you know rolls the eyes is like how can |
22919s | i put you on having this when you didn't |
22920s | do it but okay |
22923s | nine nine to deal with now |
22926s | does mean that the mischievous imp is |
22928s | fully infused though so in terms of raw |
22930s | stats on board |
22932s | quite a lot on plastic side boon to the |
22934s | ascendant though this has been |
22937s | i think this is really what put the deck |
22939s | over the edge for me it was pelegos and |
22942s | bunny ascended just |
22944s | so many stats out of nowhere |
22948s | yeah over the edge in terms of it in |
22950s | terms of now a super strong deck or in |
22952s | terms oh my goodness hang on i'm just |
22953s | gonna ignore everything |
22955s | yeah one of those down straight away |
22959s | you can continue sorry |
22961s | i do |
22963s | no no it's worth noting um but |
22966s | here we see just sort of the power of |
22969s | boone |
22970s | not being fully blown out because |
22973s | this boon minion is |
22975s | definitional stats so it remains a 9 11. |
22978s | i think we're so used to |
22981s | things giving you know green numbers |
22982s | which means that they can be silenced |
22984s | away |
22985s | but uh this just sticks around as a 911 |
22988s | so not uh you know crazy in terms of but |
22993s | it lets you have fewer blowouts and |
22996s | still be able to fight somewhat for |
22997s | board uh after getting hit by something |
23000s | like a starfish |
23001s | interesting to see plastic's thought |
23003s | process you can almost see it the way |
23004s | he's hovering over the cards he's trying |
23006s | to decide between |
23008s | racing for victory which can get very |
23010s | very |
23011s | messy against a priest that can just |
23012s | make their things twice as big in 30 |
23014s | seconds |
23015s | or holding on and just playing gigafin |
23017s | he was hovering over that multiple times |
23019s | in that weird little thought process |
23021s | there |
23022s | uh it's gonna be interesting to see |
23023s | which one he picks it will depend a lot |
23025s | on what he draws next of course |
23028s | yeah i think if if you get the library |
23031s | like i guess you sort of have freedom to |
23033s | do either plan right race or just start |
23036s | taking some trades because you have that |
23038s | value oh that may not be a library on |
23041s | its own but it does draw four |
23044s | yet |
23045s | two five if you want to commit yeah draw |
23048s | lots depending on who you want to go |
23049s | trade in kill the thing |
23052s | and now you've got plenty of juice to |
23053s | survive for two turns to play the |
23055s | gigafin and |
23056s | that should be |
23057s | [Music] |
23058s | a lot of the cases will lock things out |
23060s | depending exactly on the priest's hand |
23062s | of course |
23064s | i think it has sort of given plus leak |
23067s | the go-ahead to be more defensive here |
23069s | as well get the full value of the |
23071s | intercircle i think we could have |
23074s | maybe |
23075s | i don't know if it was a hand space |
23077s | issue to not have one more imp |
23079s | on board there but |
23081s | uh now |
23083s | if you're a huru you basically expect |
23085s | everything is there imking reform file |
23087s | library i mean it's just the juice and |
23091s | in catastrophe with how much it draws i |
23093s | think is the reason that it works to |
23095s | have something like denathrius and and |
23098s | kale floss in the deck because uh |
23102s | you know you hardly ever play it on 10 |
23104s | but with kale floss and with molocula |
23107s | and other cheap minions you're able to |
23109s | get it down early and get it infused |
23112s | from big hands like this |
23115s | this is going to be really irritating um |
23118s | for her well he's not because he's got |
23119s | the shard but next term plastic looking |
23121s | at you know voidwalker and |
23124s | the farm and just saying okay that's my |
23126s | seven deal with that don't kill me and |
23128s | then gigafin into anything you like into |
23131s | the mathias |
23136s | yeah it really is a solid setup just |
23138s | sort of paving the way here uh so many |
23141s | cards at once demonstrating uh just how |
23144s | powerful impending catastrophe is |
23148s | it's not it doesn't really matter what |
23150s | imps you bring back either because of |
23152s | that plus two plus two |
23155s | no exactly uh gonna have to start off |
23157s | with drawing cards here one way or |
23159s | another |
23164s | needs to win right now i know we know |
23166s | about the gig of him but you know he |
23167s | knows that everything's there as you've |
23169s | just said he knows the hand is full of |
23170s | stuff so next turn is not going to be |
23172s | pretty for him |
23175s | yeah i mean how close are these |
23176s | handmaidens to getting charged up if you |
23178s | play shard right now |
23180s | does that get one of them ready |
23183s | uh i mean |
23185s | until i saw the green border i assumed |
23187s | they were already ready i must admit |
23189s | like last turn and then they came back |
23190s | green like it must be one to go |
23194s | maybe it's not |
23198s | taking that initial draw |
23201s | oh no jack is all right on some boards |
23204s | but not so much this one |
23206s | yeah you're expecting this ball to kill |
23207s | your next turn if you leave it up or at |
23209s | least win the game if it doesn't |
23211s | actually physically |
23213s | officially win the game |
23217s | and this is what can kind of happen when |
23219s | you just don't have wig right you're not |
23221s | able to juice up your handmaidens and |
23223s | then you're stranded on draw |
23225s | relying on top deck spells to bail you |
23227s | out and |
23229s | plastique meanwhile has |
23231s | all the cards in the world to work with |
23232s | i think bartender plus vile library may |
23235s | not be lethal this turn but it's |
23237s | certainly working towards it |
23240s | and by not gigger finning now he does |
23242s | have just gigafitting into an atheist |
23244s | over the next two turns as a way to win |
23246s | the game i'm only looking for that |
23248s | because that's what i had my heart set |
23250s | on the second i saw the gigafin but |
23251s | there's a lot he can win this game any |
23253s | way he wants to from here as far as we |
23255s | can see obviously in his head there's |
23256s | there's ways to lose but |
23260s | maybe difficult |
23261s | trying to make |
23262s | exact trades |
23265s | getting the eight attack minion to kill |
23266s | the eight health minion |
23268s | uh doesn't really matter how much damage |
23270s | you push |
23271s | and just use the minions left over and |
23273s | there's enough stats here for a lethal |
23275s | setup yeah nice split as well so nurjac |
23278s | isn't sort of some sort of weird punish |
23282s | now jacking to boon or something like |
23283s | that would be kind of scary but he's |
23285s | managed to make that as |
23288s | unterrible as possible he's always got |
23290s | the gigafin if it goes wrong anyway of |
23291s | course but yeah i like how he |
23294s | made like you said made economical trade |
23296s | and also |
23298s | didn't make any minion too big that it |
23300s | was expendable was not expendable |
23305s | at this point shadow word devourer just |
23307s | does not do enough the wig |
23309s | has to be expended to even activate the |
23313s | handmaidens and uh no friendly minions |
23316s | to play it on unless you just play the |
23318s | leash |
23318s | i i don't really see the lines here |
23324s | no i don't think he does either but if |
23326s | you don't see it you play the card and |
23327s | see what comes just in case there's |
23329s | something that you've missed |
23333s | the amalgam into another leash but even |
23336s | then not that much matter refreshed |
23340s | drawing another from the location |
23341s | there's malcolm |
23343s | no time though good luck with that |
23349s | i can respect practicing the apn you |
23351s | know |
23353s | can always be getting better |
23355s | yeah and |
23357s | unfortunately for herbert who took a 1-0 |
23359s | lead that we didn't see |
23361s | plastic continues |
23363s | for the second masters toy in a row to |
23365s | look very impressive indeed with that |
23368s | 3-1 victory going to six and one and |
23370s | in a win and in situation for the next |
23373s | round i don't know which round he lost |
23374s | he might already have a very good |
23375s | tiebreaker but it's unlikely that six |
23377s | wins will get in but if he wins his |
23378s | final round he'll get into his second |
23380s | consecutive finals day which will be a |
23382s | fantastic performance |
23385s | yeah still a chance to make it in and |
23387s | also pretty good chance to qualify to |
23389s | the final masters tour of the year so i |
23392s | think some players are setting their |
23394s | sights on that as the next target yeah |
23396s | in his case of course because he reached |
23398s | the top eight last time picking up six |
23400s | wins here is a lot of points towards |
23402s | getting into the championships as well |
23404s | uh presumably he has eight nine ten that |
23407s | sort of order already |
23409s | plus another six from here that's sort |
23410s | of let's say 15-ish i don't know his |
23412s | exact record last tournament |
23414s | he would only need two or three more |
23416s | points to be in the sort of scores that |
23418s | would get you in so |
23420s | every win putting him very close to |
23422s | getting to that championship event with |
23423s | a chance to go to the world |
23424s | championships or you can just bypass all |
23426s | that and win the tournament and then you |
23427s | don't have to mess around |
23431s | yeah always the dream everyone looks for |
23433s | is getting a chance to make it to worlds |
23435s | even if you don't win worlds i think |
23437s | that is every hearthstone player's dream |
23439s | and really card players dream no matter |
23441s | what game you're playing |
23443s | we are going to have a look at one more |
23445s | match before we cut into round eight um |
23448s | it looks like it's going to be between |
23450s | w.e stone and suris |
23453s | a stone a player |
23455s | a chinese player who |
23457s | has been very close to the world |
23459s | championships twice i believe being one |
23461s | match away thanks to rice bowl for that |
23465s | information on twitter and also this |
23467s | time around came third in the first |
23469s | attempt this year so regarded now as one |
23472s | of china's very best players has about a |
23474s | 60 win rate in masters tours which is |
23477s | very strong um against this sort of |
23479s | field over a long time and service who |
23482s | is a player i followed very closely in |
23484s | 2018 in particular who |
23487s | was just so close to picking up points |
23489s | every tournament in top 16 never quite |
23492s | really getting that break the sort of |
23494s | player who you can say is unlucky |
23496s | constantly went 6-2 5-3 6-2 6-2 5-3 and |
23501s | has continued that ever since so i would |
23503s | love to see service get a win and get |
23505s | into a a top 16 i think maybe he made |
23507s | one i think he did make one some time |
23510s | ago but really |
23512s | do a breakout performance with those |
23513s | consistent wins so let's have a look |
23515s | what this is going to be game five and |
23517s | it's a druid from stone have a look at |
23519s | that for us |
23521s | ah yes the alignment druid a final send |
23524s | off to the card for |
23526s | those who may not be aware this is among |
23529s | the listed nerfs that we have had |
23532s | told to us by twitter it's going to no |
23535s | longer be symmetrical but still be able |
23537s | to give you those power turns in terms |
23539s | of making all of your things cost one |
23542s | i think it is a pick for this tournament |
23544s | for a lot of folks because it is one way |
23546s | you can kind of mess with the shaman |
23548s | they do have a couple of high-end cards |
23550s | and a few things to do but for the most |
23551s | part celestial alignment very very |
23553s | disruptive to your opponent's game plan |
23556s | and very very impactful for the druid |
23558s | who can start ramping their mana up very |
23560s | quickly again and kazakhstan as well uh |
23563s | making its presence known again i think |
23566s | for a while people were sort of happy to |
23568s | cast it aside and just do dinathias but |
23570s | as things have developed they decided |
23573s | you know what that's still a pretty |
23574s | solid wooden condition and you need to |
23576s | have multiple in the face of mutinous |
23578s | and theater these days |
23580s | yeah absolutely you say that like jury |
23582s | cards don't all cost one anyway |
23585s | like every druid card just costs one by |
23588s | turn seven or eight because they've got |
23589s | 200 mana they just yeah it doesn't |
23591s | matter what they cost to that point so |
23593s | be interesting to see where that goes a |
23595s | service on the big spell mage |
23598s | [Music] |
23600s | yes it is so i couldn't see the drake |
23601s | fire i mean it for a minute it's |
23604s | clearly there um |
23606s | this deck obviously |
23608s | not quite as popular as it was in the |
23610s | previous masters tour it has that |
23612s | inconsistency problem |
23614s | um but obviously when it does its thing |
23616s | it just wins games and with the |
23618s | inclusion of nightclub sanctum it is now |
23620s | able to get to turn six uh very safely |
23624s | compared to how it used to |
23627s | yeah one of the weaknesses previously |
23630s | was just having no tools to clear up the |
23632s | early game because you could not run |
23634s | those early spells so you might look to |
23636s | maybe discover some kind of spells in |
23638s | the early game to shore up that weakness |
23640s | but you didn't want to run anything |
23642s | because you want to draw off of |
23645s | deep water evoker i believe it is to |
23647s | gain you that 10 or 9 armor or off of |
23650s | belinda to get them reduced so |
23653s | uh as you say less popular this time |
23655s | around but still a good number of |
23657s | players deciding to bring it i think in |
23659s | part because of the disruption element |
23661s | of barbaric sorceress swapping one of |
23664s | your high spell high cost bells with |
23667s | something cheaper on the opponent's side |
23671s | let's have a look at this particular |
23673s | mage hand well |
23675s | we've seen a lot of this so far just |
23677s | none of the good six drops none of the |
23678s | early six rocks no belinda no barbaric |
23681s | and when you don't get those games get |
23683s | really messy because you have to start |
23685s | wondering whether to cycle your drake |
23686s | fires and ah stuff just gets grim |
23689s | because your your other cards really are |
23691s | just |
23692s | an assembly of rubbish for the most part |
23695s | as you can see |
23698s | i was wondering if cyrus might go for |
23700s | this uh something that i feel is |
23702s | happening more and more in this meta is |
23704s | just tempo brand tempo bowler these |
23707s | otherwise utility tools that you expect |
23709s | to get immediate value from in the late |
23711s | game |
23712s | because so many decks kind of build to |
23714s | something later on |
23716s | particularly mage shaman and druid you |
23719s | can just play it out on three as a |
23722s | threat that needs to be dealt with and |
23724s | even if you get a little bit of value |
23726s | from doubling a deep water of ochre |
23727s | you're kind of fine with that |
23729s | yeah do you want to double a deep water |
23732s | evoker |
23733s | because you know that the second you do |
23735s | it you're just going to draw a belinda |
23736s | right |
23737s | sorry though |
23740s | worst case scenario then you trade both |
23743s | amulets and you still have two spells in |
23745s | your deck to find with the belinda so i |
23748s | think that's part of what makes this |
23750s | deck so viable is unlike other you know |
23753s | big fill in the blank decks uh such as |
23755s | you know big demon hunter or big warrior |
23758s | in the past |
23759s | where you can get punished for drawing |
23762s | the targets that you want to pull out of |
23763s | your deck here drake fire ambulance you |
23765s | just trade it back and then you can |
23767s | still get a 10 10 belinda no problem |
23769s | yeah and with a turn to spare on turn |
23772s | five where |
23773s | let's face it next turn or this turn now |
23776s | for service |
23777s | um |
23778s | yeah next term for service is just gonna |
23780s | be a mess so time to trade a couple of |
23782s | things |
23783s | play a watch post play a pelican it's |
23785s | just just a turn of just sorting your |
23787s | stuff out because at the moment it needs |
23789s | sorting around |
23791s | and then you've got to see and the guff |
23793s | coming down |
23795s | here power immediately to be on |
23798s | nine nana so it could be devour could be |
23801s | malygos |
23804s | that is spicy but just to turn off |
23808s | yeah |
23809s | all the cheap stuff's gonna be gone by |
23811s | stone by next turn |
23813s | this is the power of druid |
23815s | it's got so much mana that it just can |
23817s | get rid of one and two mana spells so |
23819s | easily without even inconveniencing |
23821s | itself a lot of the time |
23825s | i'm wondering |
23826s | if it might even just be |
23829s | wash post pelican ping |
23834s | because you imagine that now that |
23836s | they've ramped they're gonna be looking |
23837s | to draw a bunch of cards of course we |
23840s | can see the hand that there is indeed |
23841s | quite a lot of card draw in the form of |
23843s | miracle growth in malygos but the |
23845s | pelican as well if they are going to |
23847s | miracle growth |
23849s | certainly doesn't hurt in order to clear |
23851s | the large minion at the end of it |
23854s | yeah and he sees it and again he hasn't |
23857s | got the advantage of seeing the opposing |
23858s | hand he's had to imagine that and yeah |
23860s | fair play |
23862s | at least buying a bit of time here |
23871s | [Laughter] |
23876s | yeah the scale nope |
23879s | 40 card decks |
23881s | you kind of just hope the scale isn't |
23882s | there right no no real card draw has |
23885s | been spent yet so i think sir is a |
23887s | little bit disappointed with that result |
23889s | but it did |
23891s | delay things otherwise |
23893s | an easy malygos or miracle growth could |
23896s | have come down if cirrus hadn't |
23898s | committed stuff like the wash post and |
23900s | uh yeah |
23902s | yeah you can in the early game |
23904s | 50 50 of hitting that wild growth when |
23906s | he swaps casts so |
23908s | by slowing it down that has brought him |
23909s | that and let's face it that ball against |
23911s | druids never getting there |
23913s | so not a total disaster you force them |
23915s | to waste a turn doing this |
23921s | [Applause] |
23927s | okay |
23929s | yeah you've earned this 50 50 if you hit |
23931s | it get in there |
23933s | nice |
23934s | nope not nice missed oh it |
23937s | oh the rune is well yeah yeah i was |
23939s | looking at the same as you was like wait |
23940s | hang on they both still cost 10. but |
23942s | yeah i got them |
23943s | [Laughter] |
23946s | a rune's probably not what you want |
23948s | though right i imagine the dragons are |
23951s | sort of better for for snowballing |
23953s | although grey sage doesn't allow you to |
23956s | pick what dragons you refresh anyway |
23959s | you might not mind a roon now as things |
23961s | have transpired |
23963s | apprentice first if you want |
23965s | is in time |
23969s | theater first if you want as well |
23971s | i don't think you want to give anything |
23973s | in your hand |
23975s | i don't either because it's drooling |
23976s | they just cast it |
23978s | what to do |
23981s | apprentice moon i think then is the |
23983s | conclusion from that |
23985s | i can't take it yeah otherwise you're |
23987s | relying on mass polymorph you know |
23990s | onyxia can still get hit by the random |
23993s | spells from roon even while it's immune |
23995s | i think to some extent i'm not entirely |
23997s | sure how that works so if you didn't |
23999s | roll something on like a mass polymorph |
24001s | you could struggle i think it makes |
24002s | sense to just get rid of all the one |
24003s | ones it charges up through mordred for |
24005s | later if you find it |
24007s | and uh yeah you're hoping for just a |
24009s | clear here and |
24011s | something extra honestly probably a |
24013s | counterspell or something |
24016s | that would be nice |
24019s | wildfire always welcome ignite can be a |
24021s | little awkward sometimes |
24025s | yeah it goes forever against some decks |
24027s | you wouldn't mind it but not against |
24029s | this deck |
24031s | [Music] |
24034s | alignment is interesting |
24042s | taking the discover first |
24045s | makes sense |
24047s | to get set to one |
24051s | yeah i think he feels that what why do |
24053s | it |
24055s | sort of going with the meme i said |
24056s | earlier all my cards cost one anyway |
24058s | because i'm druid doesn't really matter |
24059s | why i help out the expensive debt |
24063s | yeah fair enough fair enough |
24069s | explosive taken off some of the health |
24072s | you know there wasn't even that many |
24073s | cards drawn from the malygos was it |
24077s | compared to some we've seen |
24080s | yeah i think he feels pretty comfortable |
24081s | here |
24085s | that's why he's not aligning i think the |
24086s | hero powers keep ramping |
24088s | yeah |
24090s | yeah i feel like the alignment |
24092s | is a closer against some of the cheaper |
24095s | decks but against this you're just |
24096s | giving them a chance to cast a drake |
24098s | fire naturally and see what happens |
24099s | whereas i think he thinks he's in such |
24101s | control just play it like a vamp drawing |
24102s | now and the alignment's always there if |
24104s | you need it |
24107s | debating now this cold tooth mine you |
24109s | know of course it finds you danathis but |
24111s | it also signals that you have genathrius |
24115s | yep |
24118s | i think that's always |
24120s | the debate is |
24122s | oh right there are so many tens you |
24124s | don't always hit it |
24129s | maybe that's even what you want right |
24131s | play called tooth and then hope the |
24133s | opponent takes that opportunity to |
24134s | theater well it's not actually there |
24137s | sure yep okay |
24142s | what do you do |
24145s | all the big spells available for cirrus |
24147s | could just take another rune off of gray |
24149s | sage parrot which |
24151s | probably the best line honestly |
24155s | followed by a third hard cast next turn |
24158s | in an amulet amulet |
24160s | yep sounds good when you say it quickly |
24165s | yeah it's it's going okay |
24171s | decision for stone weather now he wants |
24173s | to align next turn |
24176s | i don't think he can |
24179s | that's the second ignite added to the |
24181s | deck |
24185s | stone's actually pretty low now i mean |
24188s | yeah got to be hoping for a top tech is |
24192s | i think there's morderish in the deck |
24194s | you could be wrong on that |
24197s | yeah there is a mordred |
24202s | thought there's everything |
24205s | with these 40 card decks you know it's |
24207s | it's more of a wonder of what isn't in |
24209s | the deck than what is |
24215s | yeah he hasn't got any of the good stuff |
24217s | really i mean he's got an atheist now |
24218s | but that's not going to |
24220s | he is going to save him quite likely but |
24222s | not immediately he's got to do some |
24223s | other stuff first |
24231s | hey |
24234s | double knolls nice although |
24237s | i almost wonder if you don't devour this |
24239s | board just to be able to |
24242s | birth in scale |
24247s | especially after seeing that roon |
24250s | i think it wants to serve the scale |
24251s | because 12 uh 11 even is pretty |
24253s | terrifying |
24259s | and the mana just works out here |
24261s | null |
24263s | devour ton of honor |
24266s | yep and suddenly |
24269s | now you're ready to start playing an |
24271s | alignment because you're so far ahead |
24273s | your opponent doesn't do something about |
24274s | it |
24277s | oh that's an x i forgot we had a |
24281s | this four mena spell played from the |
24284s | previous rune so |
24285s | two more runes to go if cyrus just |
24288s | believes he has to roll the dice |
24290s | i think |
24291s | i i think he has to what else |
24294s | what else are you gonna do |
24295s | yeah |
24299s | nothing that a lucky boo won't fix |
24302s | but he needs to get you know some good |
24304s | stuff because he is dead in two or three |
24307s | turns himself you know it doesn't look |
24308s | like that right now |
24315s | okay loads of armor there's the polly |
24317s | yeah |
24318s | another runes another big night |
24322s | that's three no you always hope to get i |
24324s | think at least one secret just so that |
24326s | the opponent has to think about it this |
24328s | must be the way |
24330s | agree |
24335s | this must be the way |
24337s | don't do the very good job keeping his |
24338s | hand size up while still |
24341s | playing powerful things every turn |
24345s | yep yep of course keeping hand size up |
24347s | means you are much less vulnerable to |
24349s | theater and most people have theater but |
24352s | not |
24353s | mutinous |
24354s | so |
24356s | just keeping a full hand means less |
24358s | likely to get sniped by that although |
24361s | plenty of other things to do in the case |
24363s | of this alignment druid even if your |
24365s | donathias does get stolen it takes away |
24367s | a valuable life gain tool and finisher |
24369s | but there's still lokolar there's |
24373s | kazakusan alexstras the lifebinder it's |
24376s | not like you don't have ways of closing |
24377s | out the game otherwise |
24379s | i wonder if he feels that scale might |
24381s | just be game closing here with |
24382s | donathious in hand |
24385s | yeah |
24386s | you know that thought was |
24388s | this scale is going to make dramatically |
24390s | just so much health and if i get back up |
24391s | to a sensible health total i'm |
24392s | definitely safe because i'm the druid |
24394s | why wouldn't i be safe |
24400s | seven more mana a turn than my opponent |
24403s | yeah |
24404s | yeah yeah |
24406s | just don't die for a turn or two and |
24407s | everything's well |
24410s | even though the mage is on 54 their life |
24412s | total doesn't matter so much |
24415s | just look at the difference in mana |
24417s | gonna be 18 to 10 crystals that's just |
24421s | effectively you have two turns for each |
24423s | one of your opponents i want to try |
24425s | explaining to a regular sports fan well |
24428s | i'm losing |
24429s | 54-23 but i fancy my chances from here |
24436s | i take a while |
24440s | reasons that life totals are not ways of |
24442s | determining who is winning |
24445s | absolutely |
24449s | well this certainly sets mordress online |
24452s | once it's picked up if it wasn't already |
24454s | it was |
24455s | uh i think we're gonna follow up with |
24457s | theatar finally |
24464s | i guess the miracle growth |
24468s | probably |
24472s | in fact definitely |
24475s | i could see his little brain thinking do |
24477s | i want to take the alignment here and |
24479s | lock them out but yeah that was what the |
24481s | thought process was right it's like |
24483s | actually if my opponent's not playing |
24484s | alignment does that mean it's good for |
24485s | me |
24486s | oh no i have no mana at the time i play |
24488s | it no it's not good for me |
24489s | [Laughter] |
24490s | i think it's it would be more about |
24492s | making sure that stone doesn't play it |
24494s | right that |
24495s | with how much |
24496s | headstone is they could play |
24499s | anything and then alignment afterward to |
24502s | try and lock out cirrus um |
24504s | so potentially you remove but you figure |
24507s | if they haven't played at all this time |
24510s | that's not really the way i'm gonna go |
24513s | however another scale coming this turn |
24517s | with mana to play donathia's apples |
24519s | immediately if he wants to |
24526s | exactly |
24529s | there is no bran in the list |
24533s | okay |
24534s | so we can't get into those really crazy |
24537s | numbers that we see out of druid |
24538s | sometimes in terms of their genethrous |
24540s | plays |
24541s | so |
24541s | as you say it might just come down as |
24543s | heal you know shore up any possibility |
24546s | of dying in the near future and then |
24549s | focus on drawing cards and working |
24551s | towards that kazakhstan |
24553s | [Music] |
24555s | unknown hill |
24557s | plays around the explosive rooms as well |
24559s | so absorb some more |
24562s | fancy um |
24564s | explosive runes |
24566s | yeah well one more time with feeling |
24567s | right |
24569s | it seems this fourth time |
24571s | yeah at least i could remember four i |
24574s | think it has to be four |
24581s | one of these days it'll just double |
24583s | pyroblast the opponent right it's |
24594s | because there was another power i think |
24595s | this might be the fifth i've lost that |
24597s | it's a lot of it's a lot of boxes |
24601s | take two take six oh no we could have |
24604s | got the honorable oh wait no we couldn't |
24605s | because it only targets ponies take two |
24607s | of my stuff's cheat |
24609s | oh my god |
24611s | and a pilot so much damage |
24616s | another put in a ping at the end in a |
24617s | weird business |
24620s | yeah |
24620s | yeah we're just creating amulet looking |
24622s | for those ignites |
24626s | mordor should be really handy as well |
24633s | i forgot about the ignites we just have |
24635s | two three damage ignites right one in |
24637s | the hand one in the deck |
24639s | more drift |
24640s | there's two more in the deck i think he |
24642s | got three in the end |
24644s | i thought oh my goodness |
24646s | they forced the genetics unfortunately |
24648s | for service and yeah he knows |
24653s | too close for comfort gotta go in now |
24658s | and you gotta do it all again |
24659s | and that was one heck of a box that last |
24661s | box by the way |
24663s | it was i i think that was the best one |
24665s | yet |
24676s | here we go |
24677s | alignment turns off the possibility of |
24680s | shenanigans with those ignites so it |
24682s | really is just the big stuff you're |
24683s | looking for as the mage |
24685s | um |
24686s | no opportunity to sanctum and something |
24688s | else for example |
24690s | uh so it is probably just gonna be |
24692s | another rune to be honest and we'll see |
24697s | but in the face of this much stuff all |
24699s | at once actually very clever there from |
24701s | stone using the amplified snow flurry to |
24704s | get a zero meta hero power before |
24706s | playing the alignment i really like that |
24712s | yes |
24715s | once you |
24717s | get a a filled mana crystal from guff |
24720s | from the hero power it plays anything in |
24722s | your deck so uh |
24727s | really great to be able to bank one of |
24728s | those from snow flurry |
24730s | dawn grasp a little too late here i |
24732s | think |
24735s | oh so many just |
24743s | what to do and honestly a cirrus hasn't |
24745s | played |
24746s | the miracle growth so i do wonder if he |
24748s | should have taken the alignment to |
24750s | prevent something like this |
24754s | possibly is he in a much i mean he is in |
24755s | a better spot if he doesn't get aligned |
24757s | there but he's in a much better spot if |
24758s | he doesn't get aligned there the turn |
24760s | might still just be well box for nine |
24762s | anyway |
24763s | obviously this maybe not a much better |
24764s | spot but it leaves you with more options |
24767s | right you can nightcloak sanctum freeze |
24769s | the 1010 |
24770s | at the same time as playing the dawn |
24772s | grasp you know lets you have a little |
24774s | more flexibility |
24776s | no absolutely |
24778s | like so he didn't play the card that he |
24780s | took |
24782s | but at the time he did look like maybe |
24784s | hunting for three cars to be really |
24786s | useful and that's no longer the case |
24790s | or maybe it still is the case maybe that |
24791s | was his thinking |
24794s | get three cars next turn played in the |
24796s | turn after |
24800s | yeah the mana differential now even |
24802s | greater than what it was |
24804s | yeah |
24806s | it was double before now it's six times |
24808s | the amount that's pretty terrifying |
24813s | it looks like stone is going to get to |
24814s | close this out bombing something |
24816s | ridiculous from the box like three fiber |
24818s | blasts or something |
24822s | which is not possible so you know |
24826s | boxes maybe |
24828s | yeah old yog box you know maybe we're |
24830s | still in business but uh roon |
24833s | not gonna get you there in that front i |
24835s | think the best role is still mass |
24836s | polymorph and |
24839s | something else to clean things up i |
24840s | guess mass polymorph into |
24842s | deathborn is probably the best role |
24847s | sounds good yeah that's quite a lot |
24850s | burning again and you still need another |
24852s | turn for that to actually |
24854s | function really |
24859s | this is just stone going through the |
24860s | motions now of a very strong player |
24862s | wrapping up a decent game of hearthstone |
24866s | one of those situations where i feel |
24867s | like if it were a ladder game |
24869s | service might have conceded by now but |
24872s | you know just kind of doing everything |
24874s | you can |
24876s | going to cast that last rune |
24878s | honestly if it doesn't do enough could |
24880s | just see the concede afterwards |
24882s | especially in your service you're always |
24884s | five and one at this stage of a |
24886s | tournament and just get so few top |
24888s | eights and top 16s like |
24890s | you just need to get one extra win |
24892s | somewhere one day and possibly even get |
24894s | into that top eight top four winner |
24896s | tournament |
24898s | oh there is a deathborn |
24903s | not quite the polly into deathborn that |
24905s | we were talking about but honestly |
24908s | uh certainly could have been worse |
24910s | although the board space now bit of an |
24912s | issue if you wanted to go for drake fire |
24915s | there's just not enough room so i |
24917s | suspect you would |
24919s | kill the five one instead |
24922s | yeah the trouble is you're dying in two |
24924s | turns yourself now this is where it's |
24925s | different from earlier right so yeah |
24927s | gotta kill the five what i feel okay |
24941s | what do you kill it with |
24942s | you know as embarrassing as it is to use |
24945s | a second flame when all your stuff costs |
24948s | one and this costs one before it is just |
24950s | sort of the tool for the job |
24959s | [Music] |
24961s | so many cards my eyes are going |
24962s | cross-eyed looking at this trying to |
24965s | work out exactly what to do with this |
24966s | eight mana just play eight cards and see |
24969s | what happens |
24971s | i don't know there's options you could |
24974s | uh |
24976s | starfish silence away these pesky death |
24979s | rattles cherry rig spammy |
24981s | clears them up your minions stay alive |
24987s | for some damage as well |
24989s | oh there's lady anacondra because that |
24991s | matters |
24994s | well |
24995s | one hard remaining |
24998s | hey like in the deck every time i see it |
25000s | it's just like |
25001s | a shadow of her former self |
25004s | there's kazakhstan into the last one |
25009s | pick fast we're on the rope |
25012s | pure cold looks good |
25015s | i think that was a wax rager maybe |
25017s | banana split embers for sure oh yeah |
25019s | those are good enough |
25021s | all right you do this |
25023s | the alignment |
25024s | uh |
25025s | feel like you maybe would could have |
25028s | spammy there but let's be honest you're |
25030s | at 40 life you're never dying |
25034s | all the runes have been spent even the |
25035s | extra two |
25040s | and staying alive for one more turn |
25043s | looks difficult staying alive for two |
25044s | more turns or killing stone in two more |
25046s | turns looks impossible |
25050s | and after that it's into the um |
25053s | extra cards |
25055s | and this is where i have to wonder again |
25057s | lorendo that if we had taken that first |
25060s | alignment just to prevent you know being |
25063s | messed with in that way the second |
25065s | alignment was second from the bottom i |
25067s | think or near bouts and then kazakhstan |
25070s | the bottom card maybe there was a real |
25072s | chance there if you prevent yourself |
25074s | from getting disrupted so heavily as you |
25076s | say it |
25077s | it's may not have mattered the meta |
25079s | differential was already pretty |
25081s | intense by that point but |
25084s | yeah it's it gets so dramatic after |
25087s | alignment is played and particularly the |
25089s | second alignment where they're able to |
25091s | reduce the treasures to one it certainly |
25093s | made your point that you made at the |
25094s | time very clear on the board how yes it |
25097s | doesn't matter but yet it does matter |
25099s | so |
25100s | like we've seen the things that |
25103s | service has been struggling to be able |
25104s | to do |
25105s | because of the alignment i mean we all |
25107s | know that to some extent but that the |
25109s | number of times he could have squeezed |
25110s | in one extra card for next a couple of |
25112s | mana here and there |
25114s | were significant and stone |
25116s | you know does the professional job here |
25118s | gets through to six and one service five |
25121s | and two yet again |
25124s | um but yeah well played i think we might |
25127s | see stone now in another top 16. |
25132s | yeah well played from both i think that |
25133s | can be a tough matchup to navigate you |
25136s | saw stone holding on to the alignment |
25138s | for so long waiting until he could come |
25140s | right back into it in terms of ramping |
25142s | up the mana crystals i think one of the |
25144s | dangers of doing something like just |
25146s | ramping up and playing alignment as soon |
25148s | as you're able is that it allows the big |
25150s | spell mage to take advantage of that and |
25153s | follow immediately with a dragonfire |
25156s | amulet and stone kept that scenario from |
25158s | ever arising choosing not to play |
25160s | celestial alignment until there was |
25162s | already a board established just for |
25164s | disruption element |
25166s | and that gives china three of the top |
25169s | four players in the tournament at the |
25171s | end of round number seven |
25173s | wdg three woods and love storm both on |
25175s | seven and oh stone in fourth place on |
25178s | tie breakers with six and one and the |
25180s | other player in that top four |
25182s | which will delight a lot of people to |
25184s | hear with one more game to go is donkey |
25187s | on six and one and then there's a |
25189s | million other people on six and one as |
25190s | well which i'm deliberately not reading |
25192s | out because it would take all day |
25194s | um but yep |
25196s | uh |
25197s | very exciting time to see donkey go from |
25199s | a person who really wants to play a |
25200s | masters tour into person who forgot to |
25202s | sign up for master's forgot to check |
25204s | into a master's tour |
25206s | into |
25207s | yeah first ever masters tour that they |
25209s | qualified for they um |
25212s | didn't check in because they didn't know |
25214s | that's what they had to do and so missed |
25216s | the event |
25217s | um but here we are three or four |
25219s | tournaments later donkey right up there |
25221s | with a shot of reaching that top 16 |
25223s | which would be i think something we |
25225s | would all love to see happen apart from |
25226s | whoever they end up playing against in |
25228s | the next |
25229s | round um |
25231s | but that is around number seven in the |
25232s | books and we're going to go on to round |
25235s | number eight the final round of the day |
25238s | so don't go anywhere we'll be back in |
25240s | three |
25245s | [Music] |
25254s | [Music] |
25291s | do |
25294s | [Music] |
25303s | so |
25309s | [Music] |
25345s | do |
25353s | [Music] |
25362s | [Music] |
25387s | so |
25389s | [Music] |
25439s | hello and everyone and welcome back it's |
25441s | time for the eighth and final round of |
25444s | swiss for this masters tour i'm raven |
25447s | joining me for this one is derek i will |
25449s | ever be able to |
25451s | take off the achievement of casting with |
25453s | everyone today one after the other so |
25455s | i'm happy with that but derek how's it |
25456s | going as we draw to the end of day two |
25458s | it is going great man i am having a lot |
25461s | of fun in the tournament seeing all |
25463s | these different decks all the subtle |
25464s | differences that you can uh |
25467s | change your lineup with which have been |
25468s | having pretty big implications this mt i |
25470s | think uh and also i am uh |
25473s | a terrible caster in that i let my mood |
25475s | be entirely judged by how my games have |
25478s | been going mid-cast and uh i'm glad to |
25480s | report really good so it's going to be a |
25483s | good one yeah same i'm off the back of |
25485s | an 8-1 |
25487s | score in there while i've been on the |
25488s | break between the match so i met yeah |
25490s | i'm great as well we're all having a |
25492s | good day let's go |
25494s | as long as we're happy |
25496s | we are going to check in though with the |
25498s | first match of round eight with ton soku |
25500s | and devil matt uh devil matt a play we |
25503s | saw briefly at the end of yesterday as |
25506s | pretty cool uh end of game at least uh |
25508s | but then uh ton soku a player we've uh |
25511s | been the scene for quite a long time now |
25513s | when you realize how many years we've |
25515s | been casting ahem tonsoku was one of the |
25517s | uh |
25518s | early players out of japan that really |
25520s | started to put out performances at least |
25522s | for me i don't know about you but |
25524s | definitely a name that said it feels |
25525s | like one of the originals |
25527s | yeah for real he's been playing |
25528s | hearthstone for a long long time both in |
25530s | and uh and out of masters tours before |
25533s | uh of course in the other previous |
25535s | systems as well and he's had a decent |
25537s | time in masters tours i think he's just |
25539s | rocking pretty close to a 50 win rate in |
25542s | masters tours overall unless i'm very |
25544s | much mistaken but he is uh very much |
25546s | leading the charge this masters tour in |
25548s | another great performance for japan they |
25551s | always bait me every time into thinking |
25554s | that this is the one but i mean maybe |
25556s | raven this could be the one right we've |
25558s | got tan soku glory and possessi on the |
25561s | six one score line which uh obviously |
25563s | it's not the the classic trifecta of |
25566s | glory possesses |
25567s | but |
25568s | it's pretty good because as you say |
25570s | tanzoku has been knocking about for a |
25572s | long time |
25574s | and in this series he's got himself in a |
25575s | bit of a close one i think actually very |
25577s | very similar lineups from both our |
25580s | players uh devil matt on the other side |
25582s | of course uh representing italy uh the |
25585s | only difference really that i can see |
25586s | being uh |
25587s | face hunter versus this new lambie rogue |
25591s | yeah and just quickly go into your point |
25593s | no matter how uh many times you get a |
25595s | little bit baited by the japanese |
25597s | players and maybe taking a victory uh |
25600s | your hopes are never going to be as low |
25602s | as some of the other casters hoping for |
25604s | an america's winner so it's as always |
25606s | you know you always at least one step |
25608s | above but yeah you are right very |
25610s | similar overall lineups and it's |
25612s | something that's interested me a lot how |
25614s | just slight variations on lineups really |
25618s | seem to decide whether players are |
25619s | banning shaman or not as shaman does |
25622s | feel like the the terror of this masters |
25624s | tour this weekend uh still i think last |
25626s | time i looked at least a a couple of |
25628s | hours ago posting very good uh win |
25630s | percentages across the board uh but yeah |
25633s | but been very interesting to see |
25635s | like why players don't ban it versus |
25637s | some players seem to be banning it a lot |
25639s | and i think in this meta it's very |
25641s | difficult to sort of spin exact reasons |
25645s | why right cause i don't feel like |
25646s | anyone's running a lineup that's like oh |
25648s | yeah i'll three oh shame and no worries |
25650s | i feel like a lot of the matchups feel |
25652s | very very close indeed |
25654s | exactly i i fully agree with you there |
25656s | it's like when you're when you're a kid |
25659s | and you you look at growing ups and |
25660s | you're like okay these people have their |
25662s | lives together they're going around |
25665s | being grown-ups they know exactly what |
25667s | you're doing and then you know you |
25668s | realize now me i am a grown-up i don't |
25671s | know what the heck i'm doing with my |
25672s | life everything's spiraling out of |
25674s | control maybe getting a little too deep |
25675s | into it for cast but basically the same |
25677s | thing happens with players you think |
25678s | they have this master plan where they |
25680s | figured out every single pick every band |
25682s | every tech card but you talk to them |
25684s | about it beforehand and they're like |
25686s | yeah i went like 3-1 on ladder with this |
25688s | deck 10 minutes before submission i just |
25690s | submitted it and you're like what |
25691s | where's all the testing where's the |
25693s | science in this i love it because |
25696s | like |
25697s | talking to players and coming out with |
25698s | answers like that from players is one of |
25700s | the few ways i can actually relate with |
25703s | a pro |
25704s | player it's not in play you know not in |
25706s | knowledge it's just the fact that |
25708s | sometimes you do stupid things and i do |
25710s | a lot of stupid things as well so it's |
25712s | great for me at least it gives me some |
25713s | relatable factor uh but here tonsoku |
25716s | already decided his mulligan keeping |
25718s | wildport keeping shroud uh definitely |
25720s | two great openers there uh the the bone |
25723s | spikes uh |
25726s | definitely a mixed bag for me i think |
25728s | like you you 100 know why they're in the |
25730s | deck but some matchups the card feels |
25732s | fantastic like this one and then other |
25735s | match-ups you think oh i really need to |
25737s | find a minion so i can bone spike it |
25739s | right you know you're really struggling |
25741s | to actually make that card get work done |
25744s | but not going to be the case here |
25745s | because tonsoku will have plenty of |
25747s | targets |
25749s | yeah it's gonna be a really interesting |
25750s | start to the game here because |
25752s | uh with the standard pan out where you |
25755s | draw one two three cards by turn three |
25757s | and then go shroud on turn three as well |
25759s | because every card in the deck is a |
25761s | rogue card you are guaranteed to draw |
25763s | nothing but rogue cards and so pass past |
25766s | shroud on three means your nulls do cost |
25768s | zero uh but now already to be fair there |
25771s | are some more interesting options than |
25773s | just hero power pass yeah i'm even |
25775s | looking at just bone spike and equip is |
25777s | that madness |
25778s | [Music] |
25780s | because you have no lung curve next turn |
25782s | anyway |
25786s | so this goes to the heart of the deck |
25788s | right this is really the the balance you |
25789s | have to strike it's the player i was |
25792s | thinking of immediately which is build |
25793s | up all your resources for a big pop off |
25795s | or immediate tempo uh which you could |
25798s | get with the null line |
25800s | my instinct is to say having played a |
25802s | few games of the deck you're supposed to |
25803s | wait here you're supposed to just chill |
25805s | because having a zero mana knoll versus |
25807s | a three-man and all makes such a big |
25810s | difference i think you just lose in the |
25811s | long game with that play |
25813s | uh but it's very interesting it's uh |
25816s | yeah something i would have considered |
25817s | for sure i do think it's the uh |
25820s | this rogue deck is deceptively difficult |
25823s | officially it's not about oh well can |
25826s | you play a million cards in a turn and |
25828s | get a big dagger you know like it's not |
25830s | even about that it's about planning |
25832s | exactly how and when to use each single |
25836s | resource and i think it's very difficult |
25838s | to do well so again i would have |
25841s | probably wussed out and played the bone |
25843s | spike and then just uh equipped dagger |
25845s | killed in him and then said you know |
25846s | what this'll get me there with a null |
25848s | next turn but it's very likely i would |
25851s | have been quite wrong and would have |
25852s | lost the game because of it so we'll see |
25854s | how a much better player than me it's |
25856s | gonna play this one out |
25858s | well the problem is though that in this |
25859s | instance you are in some pretty big |
25862s | trouble in terms of that six six |
25863s | punching you in the face every single |
25865s | turn |
25866s | um but i i think you don't really have |
25868s | any choice so you have to go shroud you |
25870s | can't go prep first or you will de-cloak |
25872s | and the knob will cost two instead |
25875s | uh but picking up the second knoll here |
25878s | boy that makes things interesting worth |
25880s | the sacrifice of a null to kill the uh |
25884s | oh hold again |
25886s | oh |
25887s | i play way too safe |
25889s | i'm an idiot i should stop playing this |
25891s | rogue |
25895s | i mean it could be a great payoff i mean |
25897s | look how good the necrolord is going to |
25899s | be |
25900s | yeah and i think this is like |
25903s | just the right level of that that |
25905s | balance that i talk about of holding |
25907s | back for bigger pop-offs first going in |
25909s | as quick as you can i think tan soku is |
25911s | this turn you know now he's dying now he |
25913s | needs to do something on this play |
25915s | something this |
25917s | come on |
25919s | just pass again you know what i think i |
25921s | can make this dagger bigger pass |
25929s | you have to be careful definitely the |
25931s | type of turn where take a second |
25934s | work out order because it could go very |
25936s | wrong if you don't think about it |
25939s | and it's a really tough turn like you |
25941s | could start with trade dagger because |
25942s | you actually have a lot of mana to work |
25944s | with with like |
25945s | knoll trading to the librarian |
25948s | uh prep |
25950s | bone spike as well like right that gives |
25953s | you way more mana to work with |
25956s | okay it's infused now because of the |
25958s | paladin hero power that's very nice |
25960s | yeah you'd probably need to prep bounce |
25963s | by glass though right because if he |
25965s | wants necrolog on anyway |
25967s | which i'm pretty sure he will |
25969s | you'd hope soon |
25973s | ah the numbers are just a little awkward |
25974s | you'd have loved a |
25976s | one cost spell uh like extortion there |
25979s | oh but wow okay now we're talking oh my |
25983s | goodness back in the game |
25986s | and this is going to be fair |
25988s | yeah this looks like uh you know very |
25991s | convenient that second uh bone spike was |
25994s | drawn uh tonsoku choosing not to go for |
25997s | it though but |
25998s | again this sort of reward was what |
26001s | tanzoku set up for right like this was |
26003s | given to him uh because he decided to |
26006s | hold he's been punished because he's on |
26008s | 14 health but now this has to be |
26011s | worthwhile for him to win this game |
26016s | interesting because he had |
26018s | the ability to go for |
26020s | infused imp i think he would have had to |
26022s | have traded one of these one one imps in |
26025s | in on the board with the |
26027s | full three threes but instead he's just |
26029s | saying getting the damage face is more |
26030s | worth it you get a little bit less tempo |
26032s | now but this second one will still be |
26034s | ready to go next turn |
26036s | and it means there's a lot of damage |
26038s | coming through here |
26040s | yeah it's looking quite good because |
26042s | these trades simply have to happen right |
26045s | like there's no real way |
26047s | uh tansoku can leave anything up maybe |
26049s | he gets away with leaving the one one up |
26053s | if he needs to if he feels he needs to |
26055s | leave anything but right outside of that |
26058s | i don't think you can take three |
26060s | yeah i think you just full trade the |
26061s | board here the question is what would |
26063s | you rather get bone spike or tooth |
26066s | activated |
26068s | or sorry both can you |
26070s | yeah this the downside is you lose the |
26072s | null here whereas you could have traded |
26074s | it into the 3-3 |
26075s | uh but he values both a spell and a bit |
26077s | of extra tempo uh |
26080s | or a bit of extra mana than a 3-2 on |
26082s | board honestly it's kind of too quick to |
26084s | figure out properly but it makes sense |
26086s | to me and final gasp is a pretty good |
26088s | one to get |
26093s | yeah oh that's his crap |
26097s | big king crab oh |
26099s | [Music] |
26101s | life steals pretty good too |
26103s | wow tonsoku |
26104s | holding gone |
26106s | just here |
26107s | just |
26109s | the whole voidwalk is gonna be a bit of |
26111s | a pain though that's just awkward right |
26113s | to actually punch through he's got the |
26115s | crab claws but |
26121s | okay so you have 11 that can go face |
26123s | here |
26124s | uh no way to boost that with crab |
26126s | obviously because |
26127s | you'll have already attacked |
26129s | it won't be 11 though right |
26132s | right |
26133s | yeah good point sorry yeah |
26136s | he could actually just trade with the |
26139s | um with the three four instead push six |
26143s | yep and then crab |
26146s | and i'm even wondering |
26148s | what the potential of |
26151s | epping the crab looks like |
26159s | just because you know there's always |
26161s | going to be |
26162s | the trades for the clause right so in |
26164s | this way you get to push for this turn |
26166s | and you step the crab and push forward |
26168s | again next turn |
26170s | at minimum or push uh yeah but uh i |
26173s | think with this and with the build that |
26175s | devilmatt's got there's not |
26177s | really a way to punish this crab without |
26180s | losing to the rest of the board so i do |
26182s | like holding on to it on there on board |
26184s | here |
26185s | yeah really really nice last couple |
26187s | turns for tan soku here the the pen |
26189s | ultimate turn that we saw there on turn |
26190s | five i was still a little unconvinced of |
26193s | because he did sacrifice away a null |
26195s | that i thought at the time he didn't |
26196s | have to but i think because of how few |
26198s | minions there were in the deck because |
26200s | he cleared the board and then had the |
26202s | mana to play the shroud he was very very |
26205s | likely to hit crab on the following turn |
26207s | which was the real uh you know full stop |
26209s | at the end of this game as tan soku with |
26212s | his uh adorable uh demeanor and very |
26215s | infectious happiness uh takes the win a |
26218s | very very well played example of this uh |
26220s | very new version of rogue and even |
26222s | though it's just game one it's kind of |
26224s | understandable like the mini pop off |
26225s | there right because he cut that close |
26228s | right we were talking about almost every |
26230s | turn from turn two onwards like oh what |
26233s | about this player what about that play |
26235s | that he could have done he decided to be |
26237s | as greedy as possible and it did work |
26239s | out but there were many ways where it |
26241s | wouldn't have worked out for him there |
26243s | so again i think he played well and how |
26245s | you should play with the deck but it |
26247s | does feel like you have to cut it close |
26249s | an awful lot of times |
26253s | yeah this was the turn right this was |
26254s | nice though because you still have three |
26255s | mana spare for a potential spell as well |
26258s | right and that you'd get from the tooth |
26260s | so even though he sacrificed a null |
26262s | there i do like the overall game plan |
26264s | yep looking at it uh cohesively uh i am |
26268s | a big fan of this line and with the |
26270s | rogue out of the way as a potential weak |
26272s | spot uh i guess against warlock and |
26274s | hunter i think it was probably going to |
26276s | be pretty good overall but major i'm not |
26277s | so certain uh as uh i wouldn't like to |
26281s | be the rogue so much against the mage i |
26282s | should say uh but now with just shaman |
26284s | and mage of his own left over for tan |
26287s | soku i very much like his position |
26289s | because shaman vs warlock is uh a bit of |
26292s | a close one one where i think you do |
26295s | suffer by transitioning over to the 40 |
26297s | card list because it's not really about |
26300s | health in this matchup in my experience |
26302s | like having an extra turn with the extra |
26304s | 10 health can help of course but it's |
26307s | about finding the uh the immediate board |
26309s | control the clownfish pop-offs uh the uh |
26312s | the sleep breaker the wild core cabin |
26314s | whatever it is in these starting turns |
26316s | that you need to just lock down that |
26317s | board |
26318s | yeah i think there are two levels to |
26319s | this there's definitely the early start |
26321s | you're really happy if you get hold of |
26322s | schooling early on and i think the |
26325s | health kicks in if you are in a |
26327s | situation where you need to snowfall |
26329s | guardian right i think that's the only |
26332s | real |
26333s | place where the extra 10 health could |
26335s | kick in it might get you from turn five |
26337s | to turn six |
26338s | whereas 30 health wouldn't and then you |
26339s | can freeze and then go from there but |
26342s | devil matt is running double starfish in |
26344s | the list |
26346s | which is again |
26347s | maybe another nod to why tonsoku gets to |
26349s | play shaymin |
26351s | in in this match because uh with that |
26353s | double starfish it means he is able to |
26355s | just say okay well it might debuff some |
26357s | of my imps |
26359s | but i got get to attack get to interact |
26362s | uh with the board so again tonsoku will |
26364s | have to be a little bit wary which means |
26366s | he will of course be wanting the strong |
26369s | opening as opposed to relying on freezes |
26371s | for his life |
26372s | very true i have never seen that skin |
26375s | before for thrall i am a |
26378s | used |
26379s | yeah man i i use that i i know i |
26382s | shouldn't but on ladder whenever i see a |
26383s | skin that i rarely see i'm like |
26386s | i think that's a rogue i smell something |
26388s | fishy i'm suspicious yeah |
26391s | like what big robo fists thrall or |
26394s | whatever this is no i'm not buying it |
26398s | that's not the thrall i know |
26399s | yeah back in my day |
26404s | you know decent start for devil matt of |
26407s | course whenever you've got a turn one |
26409s | play and circles |
26411s | um you're you're very very happy here |
26414s | especially not seeing us schooling on |
26416s | one or two devil matt going to be pretty |
26419s | okay with this doesn't have any of the |
26421s | big payoffs yet and i wonder whether |
26424s | this lee ever leans to a play of holding |
26426s | the coin because he has the uh uh the |
26428s | bartender and rafam |
26432s | go for the double circle i think might |
26434s | have pushed him over the edge there |
26438s | yeah i think the curve is just too |
26439s | smooth like you say you don't want to |
26440s | mess up reform but that shady bartender |
26442s | if there's any chance that you can |
26444s | activate that with like three or four |
26446s | demons on board you're going to |
26447s | absolutely jump at it |
26451s | okay wave not bad at all one of the |
26454s | other sort of |
26455s | emergency buttons you can play in this |
26458s | matchup |
26464s | do we need to make this more complicated |
26465s | than just uh |
26468s | trade the flame and play the fiendish |
26470s | circle the problem is of course that |
26471s | you're |
26473s | not playing bartender next turn so then |
26475s | what does next turn look like |
26480s | it's trade and tap this turn |
26490s | okay yeah i was going to say do you have |
26492s | a trade thirdly and then just recircle |
26494s | again sure yeah |
26497s | okay that makes sense it gives you a bit |
26498s | more board space for next turn as well |
26500s | in case they don't start fighting for |
26501s | board yet |
26503s | yeah |
26505s | i like it |
26510s | i'm looking great is it |
26513s | just going to be okani here from tonsoku |
26515s | just |
26516s | purely because it said 2-6 that |
26519s | might stop something and the devil might |
26521s | is unlikely to want to trade all of his |
26524s | minions more or less into it |
26526s | yeah i like it |
26529s | the big fear on turn for his mischievous |
26531s | imp right and this does shut that down |
26533s | pretty hard |
26534s | so i'm fully on board with it |
26537s | just at this stage in the game as good |
26538s | as it's going to get isn't it |
26542s | minion i imagine |
26558s | i believe |
26566s | yeah he took his time deciding and |
26570s | again because we assumed it would be |
26571s | minion going into turn four there's not |
26573s | that many turn four spells |
26576s | to worry about right that maybe he's |
26578s | thought you know what if he thinks it's |
26580s | minion he's gonna try and play a spell |
26581s | and if he plays a spell i'm gonna laugh |
26586s | oh yeah like you can stop them from |
26589s | going for impending doom uh |
26591s | like |
26593s | maybe to be honest if they play that and |
26594s | it gets counted they're probably fine |
26596s | like and more likely they're just gonna |
26598s | play |
26599s | uh one small minion like a couple small |
26601s | minions on that turn |
26603s | it's always tough with akane there's |
26604s | never a strictly right or wrong answer |
26606s | at all but my instincts say i preferred |
26609s | minion there |
26610s | does devilman actually |
26612s | trade this shipment now because he with |
26616s | his hand doesn't particularly need |
26618s | spells for the near future he could |
26620s | spend the managers to bust okani anyway |
26622s | but it's likely he kills the ocarina |
26624s | regardless i'm just wondering if he gets |
26626s | the trade in now spend the manner and |
26627s | just get a better card |
26629s | agreed i think i like the trade |
26632s | worried about needing refill for |
26636s | i don't know what because he has him |
26637s | king rafam and he can't even play the |
26639s | shipment and bartender in the same turn |
26640s | anyway next time yeah i guess he's more |
26643s | cheap enough for c giant the way he sees |
26645s | it |
26646s | or or an akani counter that could be |
26648s | relevant later |
26654s | on okay |
26656s | those are not |
26657s | demons yeah i mean that's the benefit |
26659s | right and |
26660s | i say it's an odd play because this |
26662s | stops bartender yeah but other than that |
26666s | everything else is worse right like |
26668s | because there's no both being committed |
26671s | there's no imp king rafam played on an |
26672s | empty board for example so like this |
26675s | does stop stuff but a bit limited here |
26679s | yeah it's uh it's a good play on this |
26682s | turn undeniably but it does mean tan |
26683s | circus kind of tipping his hand here uh |
26686s | devil matt has all the go-ahead he needs |
26688s | to go pretty all in here like uh |
26691s | impending catastrophe for three more |
26693s | cards you have the c giant as well |
26696s | this is gonna be big though actually the |
26698s | more i look at this i kind of love it |
26700s | because one doesn't overload him so he's |
26702s | got snowfall uh-huh he's just got parrot |
26705s | that's true that is does he just win |
26707s | that's my next question i do like this |
26709s | though opening up some space because |
26711s | again he has the starfish |
26714s | although i like definitely the setup |
26716s | here from tonsoku i think devilmatt not |
26719s | falling into the trap of like no i need |
26721s | the most minions possible on board at |
26722s | all times |
26724s | problem is though for devil matt here is |
26726s | because he did trade everything in you |
26729s | don't really have to go for snowfall |
26731s | here maybe tansoku wouldn't have any way |
26734s | because there wasn't all too much attack |
26735s | with everything being a 1-1 uh but |
26737s | either way uh tanzo can get tansoku |
26740s | sorry can get away uh with just a |
26742s | windchill here |
26743s | meaning that for next time once in king |
26745s | comes down this guardian is |
26748s | perfect oh my goodness |
26751s | yeah still going to be a good chunk of |
26753s | damage coming out here uh even with the |
26756s | fish they're the starfish true yeah |
26760s | obviously making them play it is a lot |
26762s | better than not making them play it and |
26764s | dying so uh still looking good does have |
26767s | the parrot as the backup as |
26769s | well right okay so if you go face here |
26772s | and freeze |
26773s | they say they silence |
26777s | or lethal gets a bit weird cause i was |
26779s | gonna say do you die to silence plus |
26782s | location |
26783s | uh and i don't think you do but there |
26785s | wouldn't be boards based then anyway so |
26787s | the more reasons i come up with it uh |
26789s | the more reasons i think yeah you just |
26790s | go face and freeze if they silence it's |
26792s | not that bad you just go parrot it would |
26795s | be silenced trade location right so |
26798s | there's a space to do both losing imp |
26800s | still though do you lose yeah |
26803s | yeah i think basically nothing can go |
26805s | that |
26806s | wrong here for tan soku uh they only |
26809s | play one |
26810s | uh starfish i'm guessing as well and no |
26812s | devil matt plays two oh two starfish |
26815s | okay yeah yeah i think again like i said |
26817s | i think that's one of the reasons |
26819s | shaymin is even allowed to be played in |
26821s | this series from devil matt because it |
26823s | looks like he is running |
26825s | you know some levels of tech against it |
26827s | as a starfish in his mage as well uh so |
26830s | yeah i think there's just some nods |
26832s | towards what are the biggest problems |
26833s | gonna be freezes against him okay i'll |
26835s | run double uh silence |
26838s | and in that case you do really want to |
26839s | find it so i think uh impending |
26842s | catastrophe becomes a pretty high |
26843s | priority play on this turn |
26846s | i like it a lot yeah especially because |
26848s | he can still load their location right |
26850s | like it's true fine oh |
26853s | boy |
26857s | your c giant still costs zero nice if we |
26860s | trade again and then go location |
26864s | okay yeah he sees the lines |
26866s | matt knows what's up you're gonna buff |
26869s | the |
26871s | is it oh it's just it's gonna hold it's |
26873s | gonna hold okay |
26875s | okay sure |
26878s | oh |
26879s | oh |
26880s | so close |
26882s | because |
26883s | han soku |
26884s | there's ten cards left in the deck devil |
26886s | matt just drew a million |
26888s | yeah oh they played two starfish |
26891s | is it crazy |
26893s | that i'm looking at rakan because then |
26895s | you still have parapro khan afterwards |
26899s | i'm looking at parrot theater i'm |
26901s | slamming that and just yoinking the uh |
26903s | the starfish right from their hand |
26906s | then you're not dead on board |
26910s | uh no you freeze with parrot right and |
26912s | then and then oh sorry sorry sorry |
26915s | yeah yeah you know the order yeah yeah |
26917s | you know it's a it's been a long and |
26919s | quite warm day in this room when i'm |
26921s | like yeah derek really loves stealing |
26923s | cards |
26925s | he wants both he wants starfish and the |
26927s | air the one drop oh wow okay |
26930s | this slamming brute cam |
26933s | you ever die if you go for this line |
26935s | go taunts and field two right yeah |
26939s | okay |
26942s | and you gain the armor and then like i |
26943s | said oh oh heel |
26946s | yields oh |
26947s | the other two it's better okay |
26951s | oh the only thing i would have liked |
26952s | tomorrow is just push the three |
26954s | oh yeah 100 |
26956s | put some with they can't tap not that |
26957s | they need to and puts them in range of |
26959s | the deal two hero power oh |
26961s | okay so 18 on board right now you're at |
26965s | 30 health so they need 12. |
26969s | four imps oh sorry three imps being |
26971s | played it does not offer lethal is there |
26973s | a second location and two imps being |
26976s | played i still don't think that offers |
26979s | lethal right there's just not enough |
26980s | board space yeah |
26985s | and the thing it oh |
26988s | yeah |
26989s | i don't think working out can die i was |
26991s | working out if he did push the three is |
26993s | it guaranteed lethal next turn |
26997s | because the arab picks two randoms |
26999s | that's a 50 chance at lethal anyway |
27002s | and then the hero power re-rolls |
27006s | you ever die if you leave the six you're |
27008s | you're at 24 health then so six damage |
27010s | kills you but there's one less board |
27012s | space so like |
27014s | i think interesting either way actually |
27017s | i |
27018s | think you always survive i might be able |
27021s | to |
27021s | let's go yeah but now we just pray |
27025s | all the prakhan |
27027s | all right |
27028s | fire me one time |
27031s | there we go six straight away no messing |
27032s | around ponsoku wins game number two and |
27036s | another tricky one uh from both players |
27039s | actually some difficult choices there |
27041s | again tonsoku uh really uh uh bringing |
27045s | it close there could have gone either |
27046s | way but i think the setup overall did |
27049s | look good and i think once we sat and |
27051s | worked it out yes the pro khan line did |
27054s | look like he was pretty much just |
27056s | actually maybe never going to actually |
27058s | lose that next turn and with bran parrot |
27061s | and still a go at the next prakan hero |
27063s | power it was so likely that he wins |
27066s | right |
27067s | yep absolutely i think it was a very |
27069s | very clever line from hansoku |
27071s | again like i said napkin mats i think |
27073s | whether he traded or not he was always |
27074s | surviving there right uh but the line it |
27077s | worked out massively in his favor and |
27079s | with shaman and rogue |
27081s | over the finish line now just the mage |
27083s | left to do it which i think just puts |
27085s | him in a great spot i like mage against |
27087s | most |
27088s | decks right now like druid i think is a |
27090s | little bit shaky uh face hunter |
27094s | we can talk especially if you have uh |
27096s | some of the weirder tech cards that tan |
27098s | soku has access to but for the most part |
27100s | uh against the the zoo fantastic face |
27103s | hunter i i don't even mind it that much |
27105s | in shaman yeah sometimes you just hit |
27107s | the nuts go face and they just die |
27109s | yeah my one loss during the break was |
27112s | versus a hunter but it was a face hunter |
27114s | that popped off and i did not have a |
27117s | good draw so yeah one slight weakness i |
27119s | think uh one thing to point out though |
27120s | with tonsoku's mage is he is running a |
27123s | couple of uh sort of clunkier cards i |
27126s | would say there's double blizzard |
27129s | there's a mass polymorph in there as |
27131s | well along with all the sort of spooky |
27134s | tech |
27134s | and two runes of the archmage it's uh |
27138s | it's definitely a lot of cards that do a |
27139s | lot of things but are they going to do |
27141s | the right things uh still i think he's |
27143s | favored right he's got three goes at |
27144s | this to get one win but i i do think |
27147s | this particular build has yet to impress |
27150s | me |
27151s | yeah i will agree uh i know that you you |
27153s | were saying you're playing the list that |
27155s | uh matty was playing broadcast right |
27157s | which does run solid uh double solid |
27159s | alibi yeah a card |
27161s | it's just so difficult to judge right |
27163s | because you're saying it's the absolute |
27165s | nuts it allows you to just go face a |
27166s | whole bunch stall out the game which is |
27169s | exactly what you want to do especially |
27170s | in a 30 card version of the deck but |
27172s | then we see gia playing double solid |
27174s | alibi on stream drawing both of them |
27176s | starting hand and it just looking like |
27178s | one of the most one-sided games of |
27179s | hearthstone we've ever seen the only |
27181s | good use it had was swapping it with uh |
27184s | with theater to give it to your opponent |
27186s | i i will say though um i can't quite |
27189s | remember the bill geo was playing uh but |
27192s | because the build i was like matty's |
27194s | list was he's very sort of burn |
27196s | dependent then it works more like just |
27199s | well give me one more turn and i win the |
27200s | race as opposed to any sort of you know |
27203s | if for example the double solid alibi in |
27205s | this deck uh |
27207s | isn't |
27208s | for me quite as strong because it |
27210s | doesn't necessarily mean your next turn |
27211s | is going to be good whereas in the burn |
27214s | list i feel like it gives you that one |
27217s | extra turns worth of you know big hero |
27219s | power some uh more like frozen touch or |
27222s | anything like that right to just push |
27223s | some extra damage through so yeah we'll |
27225s | see i do think the card is very |
27227s | interesting though because it's about as |
27229s | near an ice block as we've had for a |
27230s | very very long time so we'll see how it |
27233s | pays off but you can see there just some |
27235s | of the potential bad draws like if the |
27238s | opening hand it has a couple of these in |
27240s | it uh you're feeling pretty bad about |
27242s | life |
27242s | yeah you really are like there's a |
27244s | reason |
27245s | like i think matty's list that you were |
27246s | talking about that does cut kel'thuzad |
27248s | on the deathborn death one maybe not so |
27250s | much but cutting kel'thuzad was |
27251s | inevitable like players have been |
27253s | whispering about that since it came out |
27255s | like it makes sense at first you're |
27257s | playing a bunch of skeletons it's the |
27259s | payoff card right it's the card that the |
27260s | designers want you to pick and they made |
27262s | it strong because of it |
27264s | but it's just eight mana it's so |
27266s | expensive and it takes so much setup |
27268s | whereas mordresh you know you get the |
27270s | wildfire and that kind of does it alone |
27272s | an apprentice just instantly uh wins you |
27274s | the game that's it as well like in a |
27276s | weird way at that stage of a game that |
27279s | kel fazad's going to be active for you |
27281s | know |
27282s | a full board maybe a bit more on a full |
27284s | board |
27285s | pinging them with for two mana is |
27287s | probably better right he probably deals |
27289s | more direct damage that given turn so |
27292s | definitely a tough one maybe it does uh |
27294s | continue to be popular but for now we're |
27296s | going to jump into that game number |
27297s | three devil matt definitely against the |
27299s | ropes now uh in this mage mirror i'm |
27302s | gonna quickly jump over uh he has got a |
27304s | little bit more of a concise decklist of |
27307s | course we're only running the 30 cards |
27309s | and uh yeah this is looking good this is |
27311s | much closer to the list i've been |
27313s | talking about |
27314s | yeah man this deck for tan circular i've |
27316s | been full on team tan soka here with his |
27319s | reactions on camera but this build of |
27321s | mage |
27322s | i don't know if i see it like it's just |
27326s | with the initial build of 30 card mage |
27328s | that ran uh what was it like first flame |
27331s | and fire sale it was kind of a middle |
27334s | range between aggro and control it |
27336s | didn't really know what it wanted to be |
27338s | and it branched into two separate paths |
27340s | right it like evolved uh into different |
27342s | uh species |
27344s | i prefer the aggressive version i think |
27345s | that's definitely the way you want to |
27346s | specialize which is why i really like |
27349s | the what you're talking about with max |
27351s | version going over here with like deep |
27353s | water evoker in a deck that plays |
27355s | wildfire flurry solid alibi playing |
27359s | double solid alibi in a list with no |
27361s | burn like i just don't think that's what |
27362s | the core of the deck does |
27364s | so well i think it just wants to be a |
27366s | bit more burn based |
27368s | you should call it amazon mage |
27370s | there's packages everywhere in this |
27372s | checklist too many packages going on |
27374s | here but yeah we'll see how it played |
27377s | now so far at least tons of managed to |
27379s | get hold of a decent curve right double |
27381s | location has cold case you know it's not |
27384s | terrible but again looking at this it it |
27387s | feels like a control deck that wants to |
27390s | burn them as well and that doesn't |
27391s | really mesh and but we'll see how it uh |
27394s | plays out devil matt looking like he's |
27396s | got a much greater plan here already |
27399s | dominating the board for now has |
27400s | reckless apprentice has the modresh |
27402s | already locked and loaded just needs to |
27404s | beef it up a little bit and their worst |
27406s | case if devilmat decides and gets in a |
27408s | pinch can just press finley to uh sort |
27410s | of reset that |
27412s | oh okay you know what take it back i'm |
27415s | sorry for doubting you evoker because |
27417s | that is pretty insane |
27423s | just checking the hand |
27425s | there is an alibi in tonsoku's hand and |
27428s | there's a theotory devilmets not quite |
27429s | the uh the way round you want it to go |
27431s | but uh |
27434s | yeah it's got to be a five minute |
27435s | deathborn here it's so sick six whole |
27438s | skellies |
27439s | uh and that's the good thing is that |
27440s | like death boarding |
27443s | uh well actually no it's kind of close |
27445s | death warning second kind of ends up |
27448s | worse a lot of the time because |
27450s | you uh |
27451s | you take all the damage face whereas you |
27453s | don't necessarily get to deal all the |
27455s | damage face but because tansoku is at 40 |
27457s | health instead of 30 taking 12 to the |
27459s | face is it's bad obviously but it's not |
27461s | necessarily as game losing as it would |
27463s | be on the other side |
27466s | yeah i think again the health is the big |
27469s | key here isn't it yeah is able to just |
27471s | do that just get a the option as well |
27474s | for freezing his own minion oh no sorry |
27476s | this is going to be full apologies |
27477s | something |
27478s | forgot a location takes up a slot for a |
27480s | second who cares um |
27483s | oh devil matt without a wildfire |
27487s | on the back foot here |
27489s | this is disgusting |
27493s | hey now what you've got to think about |
27495s | is if devil matt |
27497s | did not run deathborn |
27500s | he wouldn't be in this situation right |
27501s | now |
27504s | think about it that way around hey |
27507s | sure let's go with that you can't get |
27509s | counter death bond if you just don't |
27511s | play it in the first place |
27514s | i mean all the minions would be left on |
27515s | board but yeah sure trade them away |
27517s | trade them away |
27518s | you don't need minions where we're going |
27522s | ping to the face that's all you need |
27525s | and a skeleton with an axe |
27528s | i mean pink to the face is all that tan |
27530s | soku is going to need here like i say |
27532s | he's not playing the burn package but if |
27534s | we ignore the double solid alibi and |
27537s | even kale fast in hand like the rest of |
27538s | the hands boston oh yeah double what |
27540s | wildfire let's go yeah |
27542s | double mat finds his own wildfire but |
27546s | i think it might be a turn too late |
27548s | right you've got uh apprentice next turn |
27551s | and then you're gonna tank a lot of |
27552s | damage after just taking 12 on this turn |
27555s | even ignoring any damage they may be |
27557s | able to do from hand you put that arcade |
27559s | interlect down and you double wildfire |
27561s | ping them face like a man |
27563s | you know what the old saying is two |
27565s | wildfires are better than one |
27567s | that's true disappointed in tonsoku |
27570s | overall but he did |
27571s | get dawn grasp so i'll uh let him off to |
27574s | some extent |
27576s | back on the christmas card list |
27586s | does he need to ping |
27590s | or should he just consider just playing |
27592s | an alibi |
27593s | to be ultra safe |
27595s | oh you just send it upstairs right what |
27597s | do you think so i think so i'm just |
27599s | saying like |
27602s | are we just gonna start talking about |
27603s | does alibi make him one percent more |
27606s | chance to win the game you know what i |
27608s | mean like that sort of thing right |
27609s | what's the worst that could happen here |
27612s | oh if you're gonna do this there's no |
27614s | way it was worth playing ai i would much |
27616s | rather have dealt damage this turn no |
27618s | cap |
27622s | now i want to see alibi ping gala by |
27624s | ping from tonsoku to win the game |
27627s | that's what i'm talking about |
27629s | i mean if you're deathborn you're one |
27630s | damage off dying right you take 12 and |
27633s | they have three damage in hand |
27635s | you can't even play it uh finley death |
27637s | born to try and soak it because that |
27640s | doesn't work |
27642s | is he actually playing it |
27645s | i mean every place sucks like i'm saying |
27647s | you can't play it what else can you do |
27648s | though you can go apprentice to try and |
27650s | soak up a couple more hits it activates |
27652s | the more dress obviously for next turn |
27654s | but then what you're still not killing |
27656s | them and you're tanking so much |
27658s | it might actually just be the play |
27660s | though right because i think anything |
27661s | else just doesn't really work does it |
27664s | yeah i think i think apprentice hope it |
27666s | tanks six |
27668s | and then more dressed next soon and hope |
27670s | your opponent has finally hit the bad |
27672s | cards because that's one thing i'll say |
27673s | i was talking about a lot of the whiffs |
27675s | that tonsoku has in the deck uh he's |
27677s | just not drawn them so yeah who who knew |
27681s | you can just choose to not draw the bad |
27682s | cards and win |
27684s | i mean the thing is he kind of has drawn |
27685s | some of the bad cards but the rest of |
27687s | his hand was so good it didn't matter |
27688s | that's what i mean like yeah yeah |
27690s | alibaba |
27691s | we could we'll probably end up talking |
27693s | about alibi till till the end of time |
27695s | right or at least rotation i suppose uh |
27697s | but kel that's not good |
27700s | everything else has felt fairly solid |
27702s | honestly oh yeah |
27705s | even now there's there's that level |
27706s | where you can just ping freeze one and |
27709s | play cold case or just play alibi like i |
27712s | said like with alibi he just never dies |
27714s | he pings twice wins the game |
27716s | yeah is there that much to think about |
27718s | that's my question |
27719s | yeah i mean the one thing that goes |
27721s | wrong is they play uh |
27722s | dawn grasp that's how you potentially |
27724s | don't win so we need to consider what is |
27726s | the best play if they have that in hand |
27728s | uh in which case the dawn grasp of your |
27730s | own could theoretically be the way to go |
27734s | don't you still just win if it's ping |
27736s | this turn with alibi |
27738s | ping next turn with alibi and then |
27740s | dawngrass ping again |
27743s | maybe yeah |
27745s | i guess they could have cold case as |
27746s | well to follow up like it's getting |
27748s | super fringe but |
27753s | is she a little bit scary |
27756s | this is a little bit scary isn't it just |
27758s | a little that's what todd's probably |
27760s | working was like wait do i go to 10 if i |
27762s | do this because my opponent just has |
27763s | moderation it's like but he knows it's |
27765s | not active because there wasn't the |
27766s | reckless played last turn so it's still |
27768s | going to be safe devil matt definitely |
27770s | going to take a quick look at kel'thuzad |
27773s | but uh that's more likely to kill him |
27775s | than it is his opponent at this point |
27778s | if you go |
27781s | maybe okay |
27782s | so that out is thinly |
27784s | into |
27785s | flurry plus dawn grasp |
27789s | and then you're still dead hurry |
27797s | and you could freeze enough but i don't |
27799s | think that actually |
27800s | is he hoping to just get the kill here |
27802s | are we just playing skeleton tennis for |
27804s | the win |
27805s | oh |
27805s | because look even if they all went off |
27807s | it would be 12 not 30 uh not 14. yeah |
27810s | true oh yeah he was always going to be |
27812s | off there tonsoku ends the series 3-0 |
27815s | and he is going to go 7-1 |
27818s | in the swiss and that means that i hate |
27820s | to say this because i'm never sure until |
27822s | it happens but i'm pretty sure it's |
27824s | through to top 16. |
27826s | i think very much so it's a good day for |
27827s | tan soku a uh a good day for japanese |
27830s | hearthstone overall because i believe |
27832s | given that he's not in any of our backup |
27834s | matches i can say possessee also i think |
27836s | gone 7-1 through to the top 16. |
27840s | uh i didn't get word on how glory |
27843s | uh finished i think he's also 7-1 so we |
27846s | actually have at least three |
27847s | representatives i have another uh |
27849s | glory seven and one possesses seven and |
27851s | one |
27852s | um |
27854s | those are the end of obviously tonsoku |
27856s | now as well but yeah those three seven |
27858s | and one and of course uh a rough series |
27862s | i think for devil matt on soku just kind |
27864s | of got him there were some interesting |
27866s | choices throughout the series to make it |
27868s | wasn't you know one-sided in a way that |
27870s | a player didn't really get to play the |
27871s | game uh but still a rough one for devil |
27874s | matt still he's going to be 6-2 i think |
27876s | there's a chance he gets through |
27878s | of course |
27879s | but we'll have to see how that one plays |
27881s | out with a cool series and uh happy to |
27884s | see tonsoku happy derek |
27887s | yeah big time i think it was very very |
27889s | well played from start to finish from |
27890s | santoku like you know i arrived on this |
27892s | man |
27893s | oh yeah that road game was so sick that |
27895s | was very very cool |
27897s | yeah |
27898s | great series overall but as usual i |
27901s | believe there will be a more coverage of |
27903s | round eight before we wrap up the day |
27905s | and they're are able to confirm the top |
27907s | 16 for you guys a little bit later on |
27909s | but for now me and i are gonna be done |
27911s | for the day but we've got a two more |
27913s | coming up for you to uh end out who is |
27916s | it oh it's the it's the chuckle brothers |
27918s | it's tj and lorinda they're gonna be |
27920s | ending the day so stay tuned and you've |
27922s | got those guys gonna be filling out some |
27923s | more matches from round eight |
27928s | [Music] |
27934s | [Music] |
27979s | [Applause] |
27981s | [Music] |
27996s | [Music] |
28011s | do |
28013s | [Music] |
28020s | so |
28025s | [Music] |
28048s | [Applause] |
28057s | [Music] |
28121s | hello everybody and welcome back to |
28123s | mattress tour murder at castle nathria |
28126s | my name is tj i'm joined by neil aka |
28128s | lorinda aka bond and we're gonna bring |
28130s | you some more round eight action before |
28132s | we close out the day and get that nice |
28135s | sweet top 16 cutting how you doing buddy |
28138s | doing great these candles don't seem to |
28140s | be going down any so yeah that's good i |
28143s | can still see which is also helpful uh |
28145s | yeah been a good day's action so far |
28148s | really looking forward to seeing |
28150s | um who gets into this top 16 because |
28153s | as things were bubbling up it looked |
28155s | like we might get a fairly |
28157s | new set of players but over the course |
28159s | of today |
28160s | i think the better players that we know |
28162s | and love are starting to rise to the top |
28164s | so we shall see by the end of the end of |
28166s | this round how that ends up |
28168s | and the players that are rising to the |
28170s | top that aren't the ones we know and |
28172s | love may soon become the ones we know |
28176s | and love yes |
28177s | and that's the beauty of the bastard's |
28179s | tour |
28181s | is that that's simple fact |
28183s | absolutely a plastic for instance player |
28185s | who went top eight last time around |
28187s | didn't know anything about him checked |
28189s | out his stats hadn't done particularly |
28190s | great doing it again backing it up and |
28193s | that's what i like to see |
28194s | um not a one-hit wonder and |
28197s | not many of them are these days if you |
28198s | see somebody make a top eight top 16 |
28200s | they tend to repeat it |
28203s | so good to see pocket train had a bad |
28204s | one but he'd had multiple good |
28206s | tournaments on the road before his win |
28207s | we all knew that pocket train was likely |
28209s | to win an event sometime |
28212s | yeah |
28213s | it was uh just needed a little bit of |
28216s | help from a combo meta you know what i'm |
28217s | saying |
28220s | it took to push a pocket train over the |
28221s | edge another combo meta comes around |
28223s | pocket trains right up in there |
28225s | um but uh we have you saw the match on |
28227s | our hands uh we're actually going to be |
28229s | coming into this series fresh gonna be |
28231s | starting series over from scratch it's |
28233s | between donkey |
28234s | and uh for the sake of ease we will call |
28236s | him c8 |
28238s | uh even though his full name is c8763 |
28242s | i thought you know him well enough to |
28243s | say that |
28244s | has he you know |
28246s | teach |
28249s | no i don't i don't know him at all but |
28252s | for the sake of ease for us all right |
28254s | fine the every single time |
28257s | what have i done |
28261s | oh you really shouldn't put your pin |
28263s | numbers your username by the way kids |
28265s | pro tip |
28267s | uh out for a second i thought it might |
28270s | be um |
28271s | battle tag right but you're not assigned |
28273s | a valentine until after you create a |
28274s | username i guess you can change your |
28275s | username because on hearthstone i used |
28277s | to be |
28278s | azimo cutie and now i am just my my full |
28281s | name just tj sanders is my host |
28284s | that's so boring that's so very derek |
28286s | brown of you |
28287s | i know |
28288s | i know it really is um |
28291s | like how dare i use my real name |
28294s | imagine just what i cast is j your |
28297s | middle name like is it first name t |
28299s | or is it tj one word my first name is |
28302s | thomas and my middle name is just the |
28304s | letter j yep |
28306s | just thomas j |
28307s | yep i'm just neil no middle name just |
28310s | eight letters neil bond get it over with |
28312s | sign the form easy |
28314s | bond |
28317s | yeah that's the first time anyone's ever |
28320s | done that in my entire life |
28322s | so uh whoever makes the town rotation |
28324s | made a mistake by putting me and you as |
28327s | the uh |
28329s | the final cast of the day yeah that |
28331s | person you know along with the stats |
28333s | person who obviously messed up in the |
28335s | last match so that we talk about how |
28337s | many fridays somebody had played |
28339s | hearthstone this year |
28340s | um they should just fire the both of |
28341s | them i think i know |
28344s | it's just just ridiculous because uh |
28348s | after about eight hours |
28350s | um |
28351s | my hearthstone braid still functions but |
28353s | the the rest of it doesn't so anything |
28356s | other than hearthstone just comes out as |
28357s | nonsense |
28358s | which is a shame because you're casting |
28360s | with me last thing of the day so yeah |
28363s | all right |
28364s | let's go there's a game on our screen |
28365s | they must have shown the decks and |
28366s | everything while we were talking about |
28368s | that okay it's going to be donkey |
28370s | on the mage and |
28373s | c8763 |
28374s | on the curse warlock which we've talked |
28376s | about a lot we haven't seen that much of |
28378s | actually on broadcast so gonna be |
28380s | interesting to see if this is |
28381s | inconsistent as i've been pretending for |
28383s | the last two days |
28385s | what curse warlock |
28387s | yeah |
28388s | build the highest win rate deck in the |
28389s | masters tour |
28390s | yeah we've seen more and more them sort |
28392s | of as we're doing the key cards as the |
28393s | days have gone by they've risen to the |
28396s | top |
28396s | as we tend to do the key cards for the |
28398s | people who are doing well because then |
28399s | we might have to show them |
28401s | um so yeah he's been doing well and this |
28403s | is a 40 card version i believe yes it is |
28407s | yep certainly is all sorts of cards in |
28410s | this deck |
28411s | yeah um i mean |
28414s | you name it you got it right it can draw |
28417s | a ton of cards and has an answer to just |
28421s | about every situation |
28422s | it's got heal in the form of spice bread |
28425s | baker it's got disruption in the form of |
28427s | theotar |
28428s | and some other starfish i suppose it's |
28430s | also disruption it's got the insane draw |
28432s | engine of fiendish circle plus impending |
28435s | catastrophe |
28437s | uh it's got small aoe in grimoire of |
28440s | sacrifice medium aoe an abyssal wave in |
28442s | large aoe in a title customer and just |
28445s | in case all of that isn't enough you |
28447s | have gigafit which wipes the |
28449s | board and then all the while it's |
28452s | dealing damage to you |
28455s | when i pitch it like that right like a |
28457s | salesman who's who wants you to buy |
28459s | something like i'll take three i curse |
28461s | warlock yeah uh it sounds like something |
28464s | that you can't refuse and you know it |
28465s | shouldn't be a surprise why it's the |
28467s | highest win rate deck especially |
28468s | considering |
28470s | that a lot of the field especially once |
28472s | you get to |
28473s | the higher win rate um |
28475s | decks are very slow they take a while to |
28477s | win the game they do have ways to win |
28479s | the game sooner i'm talking about shaman |
28481s | druid |
28482s | um mage to an extent |
28484s | uh they take a while to get their game |
28486s | plan rolling you know when i get your |
28487s | downtrend will be down that fast you |
28488s | have time to put the curses the curses |
28490s | themselves are also disruption and the |
28493s | fact that if your opponent's sitting on |
28494s | a full hand sometimes you can fill their |
28496s | hand up with curses make it really |
28498s | awkward for them |
28499s | uh |
28500s | they might overdraw a key card something |
28502s | like that it's another form of |
28503s | disruption so |
28505s | yeah plenty going on um i think this one |
28509s | isn't what we're seeing many of curse |
28510s | warlocks either we're seeing the thing |
28512s | we're calling a lot of curse warlock is |
28514s | just the imp deck with some curses |
28516s | thrown in but this is full on as you've |
28518s | just beautifully described absolutely |
28521s | cursed warlock |
28523s | the absolute max |
28525s | control warlock with some curses thrown |
28527s | in |
28530s | all this but |
28532s | okay |
28533s | we have a cool little situation here um |
28536s | donkey has set up both mailbox dancers |
28538s | which means that |
28540s | if c8 wanted to play around the possib |
28543s | oh no |
28545s | i missed one key element of this play |
28548s | what's the key that would have been |
28549s | great he hasn't got a spell in his hand |
28551s | he has to guess his hand to swap with |
28553s | barbaric sorceress oh no |
28556s | yeah he's got curses as well to deal |
28558s | with first that one's gonna go but it |
28560s | could be there could be more |
28561s | yeah so gonna just use the coin to get |
28563s | impending catastrophe if anything if |
28565s | there's a trade and the coin is in hand |
28567s | if you pick up a more expensive spell |
28568s | it's not as damaging but |
28571s | there you go |
28572s | deal hasn't gone |
28574s | i mean there's not that many in the deck |
28577s | so it's not crazy to think |
28579s | that if you don't mulligan into a spell |
28581s | plus barbaric sorceress um |
28584s | that you wouldn't find one |
28585s | uh because |
28587s | outside of deepwater evoker |
28590s | not really a way to to to fetch him |
28593s | very easily |
28594s | it's even worse than that he can't even |
28595s | coin it out sort of just to get |
28596s | something on the board because the coin |
28598s | the other coin would suddenly become a |
28600s | three mana coin which sounds like a |
28602s | terrible hearthstone card yeah this is |
28604s | just going to have to be try and get |
28606s | some incremental damage in most likely |
28608s | so probably going to freeze one of these |
28610s | zips |
28613s | uh the three one here and then maybe you |
28616s | can play watch post and |
28618s | you know hope that spell's gonna |
28620s | come pretty soon right not trade in the |
28622s | mailbox the answer to preserve the |
28624s | ability to |
28626s | give your opponent a coin then barbaric |
28628s | sorcerers to make sure that they can't |
28629s | play around it |
28631s | it's such a relief to see a real watch |
28633s | post in play i've seen the big square |
28635s | flat watch posts twice so far this |
28638s | tournament |
28640s | no it's cool square flat the one that |
28643s | isn't the crossroads just other watch |
28645s | posts |
28646s | i don't know what his actual name is |
28647s | watch post |
28648s | it's just called other watch posts as |
28649s | far as i'm concerned yeah |
28652s | because there's also the other other |
28654s | ones |
28657s | there's the other other ones crossroads |
28659s | yeah it's not the crossroads it's the |
28661s | other |
28662s | one that isn't the crossroads the other |
28664s | one that makes two twos |
28669s | okay |
28670s | okay |
28671s | i'm just gonna call it other watch posts |
28674s | i probably could have said any word i |
28676s | wanted and then followed up with a watch |
28677s | post and it would have been like yeah |
28678s | just sounded sort of vaguely you know |
28681s | warcrafted like this |
28683s | allen guard |
28684s | watch post yeah that's great |
28691s | who's allen why does he need cardigan |
28693s | but the whole watch post to guard maybe |
28695s | he was you know one of the the kings |
28697s | under anduin's friends mums |
28700s | brothers sisters |
28702s | yep legion of allen guard |
28704s | yeah yeah only is he called down and |
28706s | he's guarding but his area is also |
28707s | called allenguard just to confuse people |
28709s | so they get lost |
28711s | fair enough that's why they let me name |
28713s | things tj they never have and they never |
28715s | will |
28720s | but i keep trying |
28723s | all right |
28724s | this game is progressing |
28726s | fill up the hand |
28730s | c8763 is going to lose a card |
28734s | however |
28737s | does it really matter |
28740s | what what's one card that you couldn't |
28742s | afford to lose in this situation i guess |
28743s | danatherius might be like one of the |
28745s | worst but even then like that's just a |
28747s | secondary win condition the main win |
28749s | condition is just curses |
28751s | um there's already a brand um maybe |
28754s | school teacher |
28757s | could be one i don't know school or |
28759s | theater |
28761s | i'm looking at donkey's hand what's he |
28764s | supposed to do |
28767s | what are you supposed to do with |
28768s | absolute mess of our hand |
28772s | the coins are actively hurting you at |
28774s | this point |
28777s | i think pink is the answer |
28781s | and float five |
28786s | oh |
28788s | not like this donkey |
28802s | like a donkey um oh just playing 88. |
28808s | [Applause] |
28810s | okay with the full hand the pending |
28812s | attachment is probably the one card |
28813s | you're like |
28815s | you wouldn't want anyways just be taking |
28817s | that space so anybody |
28819s | donkey having to to label his clothing |
28821s | so he does have to get dressed by a |
28822s | little bit donkey top he's got donkey |
28824s | trousers donkey socks |
28828s | what's up every morning what's my name |
28830s | comes down oh donkey okay yeah this is |
28832s | my top so i'll be on the top |
28834s | excellent |
28839s | still nothing to at least you get |
28841s | something out of the palette here but i |
28842s | think you just hold still |
28845s | you get |
28846s | anything out of the parrot |
28854s | it's not very |
28855s | good just |
28857s | freeze |
28859s | yeah worry |
28860s | yeah |
28864s | you can't stop this |
28869s | only floated four man at this time he's |
28870s | getting better |
28875s | he's got a stage now he's got like a one |
28877s | in five chance better than one in five |
28879s | chance of actually drawing a spell each |
28880s | time so you know the hopes brings it up |
28897s | not ideal we've got to do something |
28899s | surely |
28902s | [Music] |
28905s | and it casts |
28908s | nothing i mean a lot of the times in |
28911s | big spell mage it doesn't really cast |
28913s | anything unless you cast a drink |
28915s | there's a fire spell yeah |
28917s | well |
28920s | these pings are |
28921s | nearly got c8763 down to normal starting |
28925s | health total right |
28926s | this is uh five and six |
28930s | and he's back to 40. |
28935s | uh in this here power's still at two so |
28938s | no minions on board that can get |
28939s | anything deep water evoker there we go |
28943s | so soon |
28944s | yep deep water evoker |
28947s | and then |
28948s | but he's got to get rid of the curses |
28951s | yeah you |
28953s | can't let's just dive don't get rid of |
28955s | the curses you die no you don't die |
28957s | because you're going to get an arm |
28958s | but you can't like barbaric sources here |
28960s | because you could just end up swapping |
28962s | the cost of the abyssal curses |
28965s | and also you don't even have a good idea |
28968s | of what your opponent can have in their |
28969s | hand in terms of spells |
28972s | so |
28972s | [Music] |
28975s | counterpoint you're so dead you might as |
28977s | well |
28979s | to be honest yeah i mean we could see |
28981s | the hand so it's a little bit easier for |
28982s | us like yeah |
28984s | um it it could have worked out it would |
28987s | have been a one and three |
28990s | and then a 50 50. right a one and three |
28992s | to swap the 26 |
28994s | and then no no one in four because he |
28997s | has a coin too so one and four to swap |
29000s | the his rune and then a one in three |
29004s | two to swap with the grimoire then you |
29006s | can coin out |
29008s | then you've got a box which might go |
29010s | wrong anyway |
29012s | yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's uh it's uh |
29015s | it definitely should have done it |
29017s | yeah he's just got pirate blasts all |
29018s | over the place |
29020s | ooh so all of these nogglings are |
29023s | well the second knuckling doesn't matter |
29025s | because it doesn't come into the hand |
29026s | but both of these nogglings i'm i'm |
29028s | pretty sure just |
29029s | garbage |
29030s | uh touch of nathrezim sure |
29033s | and grimwar of sacrifice |
29035s | okay at least there's a brand so you |
29038s | know |
29040s | [Applause] |
29042s | now |
29045s | box |
29046s | what's in the box |
29049s | here comes we've seen some pretty crazy |
29051s | boxes today so far but now i've actually |
29053s | swung the game more than you'd expect |
29055s | tiny little pieces good start |
29058s | order |
29059s | stay where you are no |
29061s | okay yeah |
29063s | no sweet |
29075s | all right solid alibi is not bad |
29078s | and this is another box |
29093s | all right well |
29096s | oh |
29099s | well there it is |
29101s | good luck with this next box |
29103s | [Music] |
29105s | just say something |
29107s | oh because the touch was not okay i see |
29110s | it okay the touch was cast from the uh |
29116s | uh noggling |
29118s | that's just it |
29120s | no it's only oh yeah because |
29123s | [Music] |
29124s | yep okay well |
29128s | nice |
29129s | wrecking |
29133s | ignition |
29135s | there you go see i told you it's only |
29136s | hearthstone that my brain functions |
29138s | after i've been cast at the eight hour |
29139s | mark it's only in hearthstone |
29142s | like english no only hearthstone words |
29145s | um |
29146s | and for some reason the lyrics to |
29148s | [Music] |
29156s | um have you tried listening to it that |
29158s | usually works |
29160s | i i did |
29161s | multiple times and it just made it worse |
29163s | oh no |
29165s | okay well |
29166s | why is recognition not the name of a |
29168s | hearthstone card i thought we ran out of |
29170s | names for cards ages ago that's why |
29171s | we've got cards like |
29173s | entitled customer |
29174s | or gigafield |
29176s | recognition would be what we do |
29179s | draw your cards wouldn't it or steal |
29181s | cards |
29183s | um |
29184s | one mana look at your opponent's hand |
29189s | okay didn't we have that and it wasn't |
29191s | called recognition |
29194s | we had that really what was it i can't |
29196s | remember i mean |
29198s | it was mind renderer lucia you looked at |
29200s | your opponent's hand because you got it |
29203s | you never got to see your opponent's |
29204s | hand because they conceded when you |
29206s | played it |
29208s | many times |
29209s | well you you talk about something moving |
29211s | on i'm going to fight what this card was |
29213s | yeah |
29215s | control shaman i think it existed |
29219s | but maybe |
29220s | i'm sure it existed |
29222s | because i've been casting hearthstone |
29223s | since the very beginning of person |
29226s | right but your brain's fried and you |
29228s | can't remember anything so you could be |
29230s | wrong and i make things up all the time |
29232s | i've actually cast at least once |
29235s | in every single |
29239s | bet |
29240s | that has ever existed in hearthstone |
29241s | including three next |
29245s | the esl i can't see the |
29251s | that was released no i was playing at |
29253s | the time but i wasn't casting at the |
29255s | time i was still playing lots of arena |
29257s | close i can find is envoy of lizal which |
29259s | just looks at three cards but i'm sure |
29261s | there was something that let you look at |
29262s | the hand |
29264s | i'm going mad aren't i this doesn't |
29266s | exist if you say it doesn't exist it |
29268s | probably doesn't exist but |
29270s | that would be recognition i don't even |
29272s | know if it'd be played it's hard to take |
29273s | a card slot it doesn't do anything you |
29274s | just get to look maybe though i don't |
29277s | know that combined with theater it's |
29279s | like do i want a theater now let me play |
29282s | recognition real quick |
29284s | all right i recognize your hand now |
29288s | and then you can decide if you do it are |
29289s | i know what i'm thinking of i think of |
29291s | that camellias thing where it turned |
29293s | into one of your opponent's cards it |
29294s | turns into a card in your opponent's |
29296s | hand yeah the beginning of each turn |
29298s | sure you were sort of looking at your |
29300s | ponytail but very slowly |
29302s | yeah and every time a new car gets added |
29305s | like it it reduces the |
29307s | chance that you're gonna get to see |
29308s | every card and it can it can't change it |
29310s | to the same thing twice in a row i don't |
29312s | think but it could swap back and forth |
29314s | between two over and over again that's |
29316s | definitely what i was thinking of |
29317s | because it's one manner and you never |
29318s | play it you just keep in your hand |
29320s | yeah unless it's up really good all |
29322s | right let's get into it |
29325s | versus mage |
29327s | uh taking a look at this this mage |
29330s | uh from the side of c8 it is a |
29334s | uh 30 card |
29336s | skeleton mage |
29338s | the solid aggro solid aggro |
29341s | solid alibi frozen aggro version i like |
29344s | to call it aggro because it does seem |
29345s | like you're just trying to |
29348s | get as much many skeletons kill them off |
29350s | as fast as possible and then |
29352s | get a bunch more and then |
29354s | deathborn them and get about and get |
29355s | more and you do that repeatedly i quite |
29358s | liked mati's take on this where he he |
29360s | even cut the deathborns and just went if |
29361s | i'm going to hit him i'm going to hit |
29362s | him |
29363s | oh yeah he just played more minions so |
29365s | you get more frozen |
29367s | he literally just he just literally did |
29369s | that yeah and just just skimmed it all |
29371s | down so that four was the top end apart |
29373s | from the two obvious cards whatever they |
29375s | might be |
29377s | but they weren't death pawns he took |
29378s | them out |
29382s | which has worked pretty well for him so |
29383s | far i think |
29385s | yep |
29387s | uh |
29389s | i'm kind of a |
29390s | big fan of the tempo brand here |
29394s | with clownfish in hand i like it just go |
29396s | see if you can hit if it doesn't die you |
29398s | kind of look so good |
29400s | yeah well with like dungeoneer guess |
29402s | it's not worth it just for a dungeon if |
29404s | you had a higher payoff like if there |
29405s | were more murlocs in hand and you could |
29407s | go super wide with clown fish |
29410s | then maybe |
29413s | nature waits for no one |
29419s | it's made of neptulon |
29421s | so gets together draw an elemental as |
29423s | well |
29425s | which also happens to be a murloc |
29428s | and a demon and a beast and an imp and a |
29431s | total |
29433s | demon |
29435s | not yet |
29438s | ah now how are you liking um trying to |
29440s | set up next turn |
29443s | round clown |
29446s | and |
29447s | then |
29448s | seven you need seven mana |
29450s | the problem is now it's like uh see it |
29453s | would just have to have a frozen touch |
29455s | and a ping wouldn't have to use the coin |
29457s | in order to kill it off |
29460s | um |
29461s | you go the other way right you dump |
29463s | everything over the next two or three |
29464s | turns and set up a crazy murloc turn |
29467s | seven |
29471s | okay how do you like that |
29475s | that's fine i'd get |
29480s | more simply |
29481s | just like clownfish piranha |
29491s | i wanted to see exciting stuff but yeah |
29494s | next turn we could anyway |
29498s | yep |
29499s | sadly this makes sense |
29502s | get it on the board |
29508s | that's piranha merlot |
29511s | cause this needs dealing with otherwise |
29513s | the game might end really quickly |
29516s | yeah |
29518s | ah there's a coin deathborn |
29521s | next turn there's the see it's got a lot |
29524s | of stuff no |
29534s | if you read those cards the plan is |
29536s | fairly straightforward as well |
29542s | a lot of things to be done here uh |
29544s | potential things to be done |
29547s | um command of neptulon i don't like |
29549s | because you're going into coin |
29551s | deathborn so if you just |
29554s | go ahead and double |
29558s | but |
29558s | at the same time there's not really much |
29560s | else that |
29562s | plays around it you could go prana |
29564s | piranha and then gorlock |
29568s | i feel like you don't want to neptune as |
29569s | well because next turn six mana just |
29571s | seems like an important number right now |
29572s | you've got a lot of threes in your hand |
29575s | he's up to six so i don't think you're |
29577s | too overloaded right now |
29581s | all those factors |
29583s | all told i think yeah |
29591s | there's a amalgam |
29595s | yep okay |
29599s | just making sure he's got stuff |
29607s | i think donkey may have thought the last |
29609s | battle cry was uh the |
29611s | clownfish possibly yes |
29627s | oh wow this is some good stuff |
29634s | yeah the exact opposite half of the deck |
29636s | to what he just had he had the sort of |
29638s | comboy parts of the deck and now he's |
29639s | just got the stuffed part of the deck |
29641s | slow you down |
29643s | yeah all again |
29645s | and donkey needs slowing down right now |
29646s | because |
29648s | the eight seven six three is down to 28. |
29652s | now to take another chunk the ball sort |
29653s | of |
29655s | big enough to be annoying from donkey's |
29657s | side the next few turns so yeah c8 needs |
29659s | this game to slow down |
29667s | random numbers |
29669s | 38 763. |
29673s | i'm always fascinated when people put |
29674s | like strings of numbers in where it |
29676s | comes from and the other question is |
29678s | like what happened 762 |
29683s | this is the lowest number you could get |
29685s | to go with your name let's see |
29692s | i'm gonna go what solid out by wildfire |
29695s | here |
29699s | this is still getting a little awkward |
29701s | though for c8 because this is still |
29705s | damage |
29706s | that he's taking right um |
29709s | yeah this actually might be a good |
29711s | opportunity for theater seeing you |
29713s | seeing a lot of cards drawn |
29723s | okay no theotar so just gonna go |
29726s | max pressure and play things that are |
29728s | not |
29730s | really susceptible to it |
29733s | i'm just looking at this board of cards |
29735s | it's just |
29736s | ridiculous just absurd selection of just |
29740s | things |
29741s | i don't even know |
29746s | okay so commander is wildfire or kenyan |
29749s | elect and |
29752s | it fleury |
29752s | oh the alibi oh the alibi played the |
29755s | alibi last that's right |
29762s | okay |
29765s | but how are you going to kill anything |
29773s | he's in trouble isn't he like clearing |
29776s | this stuff up it's just difficult he can |
29778s | stall for a turn or two but it's |
29779s | actually just not going away |
29788s | there's no cheese your opponent to death |
29789s | version because you know donkey's still |
29791s | on 40 yet |
29797s | yeah i was just a whatever there from |
29799s | donkeys shrugged it off |
29803s | i feel the need to play four cards to |
29805s | freeze my board and kill a minion to |
29806s | make me a slot sure |
29808s | yeah do that |
29814s | well this is uh |
29818s | sort of problematic for donkey but at |
29820s | the same time not really |
29822s | uh there's no way to avoid |
29826s | or there's way you just have to |
29828s | sacrifice a bunch of piranhas |
29832s | [Laughter] |
29845s | i want to sacrifice see |
29847s | this is still going to fill up the hand |
29850s | those are like real cards take one of |
29853s | those |
29855s | i like it |
29857s | yeah |
29858s | what a mech |
29860s | smack |
29861s | you thought that was never getting |
29863s | buffed ever in this game |
29868s | donkey done |
29869s | something he thinks he's silly |
29873s | uh he filled up his hand |
29875s | and he's bored he just maxed out |
29877s | everything you can do just needs a |
29878s | weapon now |
29883s | donkey don't worry you played great on |
29885s | stream earlier you're playing great in |
29886s | the tournament |
29895s | c8763 got rid of earlier |
29899s | they'll probably want a solid i'll buy |
29901s | in a macbook sanctum |
29904s | i think so |
29909s | in positions that your deathborn |
29910s | actually can win you this game somehow |
29912s | because this game is slipping away from |
29914s | c8763 |
29920s | which is funny because |
29922s | ducky's just playing like a 2-3 |
29925s | every turn that's it that's the game oh |
29929s | macaw okay |
29931s | that's a little unfortunate but at least |
29933s | now donkey's got some board space to |
29935s | work with |
29937s | um |
29938s | brand theater |
29941s | i want to see a theater now as well yeah |
29945s | it's got to the point now where c8763 |
29947s | was digging for cards earlier with |
29948s | finley you can expect the hand to be |
29951s | contained only one or two ounces yeah |
29958s | and |
29960s | pick the piranha back |
29962s | for yellow one |
29967s | uh which is it it's probably cold case |
29970s | but you can tell uh i would say frozen |
29972s | touch because see it's kind of gonna die |
29976s | and there's also a lot of minions so |
29978s | donkey could get this infused |
29984s | i'm loving the part here where these |
29986s | absolute garbage minions have just been |
29989s | coming in for one each |
29990s | several turns well the alibis and |
29992s | they're still getting the job done |
29994s | yep |
29996s | they can this turn with some armor |
30005s | [Music] |
30008s | oh that is actually a card |
30012s | yeah |
30013s | that is a full clear with the two |
30014s | swarmers in hand because this is double |
30016s | wildfire |
30019s | not all of them |
30020s | that's the rubbish dealt with now |
30023s | welcome to neptune online |
30026s | yeah oh sorry nearly all clear we're |
30028s | still going to be two too long |
30031s | oh wait there's there's a swarmer to |
30032s | clear up some of this stuff another is |
30034s | kings you're fine yeah |
30036s | even just |
30038s | thank them |
30045s | because it's useless |
30050s | problem for c8 though completely out of |
30052s | cards or nearly out of cards and donkey |
30054s | still at 37 life with a lot of good |
30057s | stuff |
30059s | yeah donkey can do what they like in |
30060s | this game i think |
30063s | 37 health as well so there's no |
30066s | there's no backup plan for c8763 here |
30069s | of like just somehow getting the damage |
30072s | over the line or something |
30074s | actually got to find a way to win back |
30075s | forward i guess |
30080s | i guess set up some |
30082s | [Music] |
30083s | incredible |
30086s | luck turn |
30088s | there there just haven't been enough |
30089s | celtics |
30093s | or dresser is active but it summons an |
30094s | 88 which |
30096s | oh you could mordresh and then |
30099s | no flurry and ping the 88 that pops out |
30101s | of this |
30105s | thing that i played in the deck that i |
30107s | got baited by habigaba to play the demon |
30109s | hunter deck |
30111s | have a go it does not bait people people |
30114s | just play the decks badly |
30115s | those are paid no they're texas |
30121s | honestly every day that happy field |
30123s | wakes up |
30124s | grounds demon hunter |
30126s | putting these cards in my deck today and |
30128s | then he plays it to rank one legend |
30130s | and they can't all be perfect first time |
30133s | but they just can't |
30136s | but because he's had bugaboo it doesn't |
30137s | matter |
30139s | yeah |
30141s | i think it's neptulon time |
30151s | he's like |
30152s | fixed |
30161s | i need to elaborate i guess of course |
30162s | you've gone quite like jumbo will just |
30164s | play cards and decks for fun really well |
30166s | do really well with them they'll be |
30168s | creative and enjoyable |
30169s | and happy does the same thing and wins |
30175s | hey jabra wins |
30176s | he's really good but |
30179s | enjoys the |
30181s | challenge sometimes though i've been |
30182s | playing |
30183s | the most awful vogue deck that he |
30185s | insists on trying to win a game with |
30190s | it was the one where he played the |
30191s | importer and there's only two or three |
30193s | cards you could possibly hit and it |
30195s | combos turtle rogue was it called oh the |
30199s | infinite yeah |
30201s | okay yeah he just insisted on playing |
30203s | sort of 700 games of that until he |
30205s | finally won one |
30207s | yeah |
30208s | and haboo doesn't do that he just peels |
30209s | decks that win from the start rather |
30210s | than like |
30213s | force them to work yeah this wave makes |
30214s | sense from donkey just looking at the |
30216s | game |
30217s | make sure there's no skeleton accident |
30219s | waiting to happen |
30222s | and draw a card and draw a card yeah |
30225s | that's what he needs right now |
30237s | oh |
30238s | nice |
30251s | [Music] |
30252s | i think if you showed this situation to |
30254s | someone who'd never played hearthstone |
30256s | before but you know an idea about how |
30257s | gaming works it says |
30259s | which one of these players is winning |
30261s | every single person in the world first |
30263s | asked what are those brown square things |
30265s | in the middle of the board |
30266s | and then they would say okay they don't |
30268s | do anything then donkey has won |
30276s | just by all of the numbers all of the |
30278s | number of cards everything donkey has it |
30280s | completely |
30283s | locked well dawn grasp is probably the |
30286s | best draw off the top |
30288s | but it's still not enough |
30290s | even if it |
30292s | flurries uh the rank two flurries both |
30295s | death wings |
30298s | oh |
30299s | maybe |
30301s | i think even if it more dresses due to |
30303s | something that shouldn't even happen |
30306s | it might still be hard from here |
30309s | stay where you are |
30311s | so flurry we need to hit the deathwings |
30313s | okay did not so that'll be it |
30316s | unless there's a miracle from the arcane |
30317s | intellect |
30319s | frozen touch |
30322s | that's a big ping though that's four |
30324s | wildfires plus the upgrade plus another |
30326s | wildfire cast that's a what a seven |
30328s | damage ping |
30329s | i guess a couple of turns of freezing |
30331s | maybe could get there i guess |
30334s | yeah but probably not right |
30337s | delayed reaction |
30339s | [Music] |
30340s | i will allow myself |
30342s | to feel an ounce of joy |
30345s | now back to business uh all tied up 1-1 |
30349s | down to |
30351s | asian peace versus mage and druid uh |
30354s | something that's interested me a little |
30355s | bit this tournament is how little we've |
30357s | seen of druid in these matches |
30360s | i thought it might be a bit of a go-to |
30362s | date for some people |
30364s | not really seeing lots of druid |
30367s | yeah because it's it's not being banned |
30369s | that often if you take rampant anaconda |
30372s | druid and their band rates and add them |
30373s | together it's like close to 20 percent |
30378s | um |
30379s | between 15 and 20 |
30381s | so it's not being banned like that often |
30383s | uh but |
30385s | yeah i don't know |
30387s | i think people might have been scared of |
30388s | it a little bit because it's quite |
30390s | targetable in this matter like if you |
30392s | walk into |
30394s | four aggro decks which is a thing you're |
30397s | very likely to walk into if you count |
30398s | weak priestess an aggro deck which it |
30400s | definitely is |
30402s | then |
30403s | yeah maybe you just lose with the druid |
30405s | three times and if you don't walk into |
30406s | that then maybe they ban it anyway so |
30409s | yeah i might have put people off |
30411s | but |
30412s | it didn't put off |
30414s | the 8763 |
30418s | all right |
30421s | wig priest nagis buff priest boon priest |
30426s | i like this deck by nicole starting to |
30428s | run out of things to say about it |
30431s | yeah |
30432s | play a minion with high health put a wig |
30434s | on it attack |
30438s | [Music] |
30440s | yeah sounds about right |
30444s | i mean the interesting part comes about |
30446s | when you don't get the early board and |
30447s | you've got to work out |
30449s | how long you go before you make four |
30451s | things in one turn wise man taught me |
30452s | that yesterday but |
30456s | other than that |
30470s | double frozen touch |
30471s | okay |
30473s | [Music] |
30484s | this is oh wow that's a thing i thought |
30486s | he might just kill it |
30488s | yeah |
30489s | coin is a |
30491s | pretty valuable resource start the |
30493s | frozen touches uh but with no minions in |
30496s | hand |
30497s | are you really gonna wait till they're |
30498s | induced |
30501s | i don't know good point yeah okay |
30504s | thrive |
30512s | [Music] |
30520s | this makes far more sense |
30528s | when do you want to play it this is this |
30530s | is one of the |
30532s | tougher decisions in this deck in |
30533s | general i think |
30535s | is it's your game-winning card but if |
30536s | you just jam it too early it's not |
30538s | anymore sometimes but sometimes it still |
30540s | is |
30541s | i mean it's it's not like that much of a |
30543s | game-winning card it's a game-winning |
30544s | card in the sense that it's like |
30546s | a lot of pluses |
30547s | but the truth like it's a key i think |
30550s | the biggest game-winning aspect of |
30552s | pelego's is just when you play it on |
30555s | curve |
30557s | because that's how it's going to win you |
30558s | more games than if you try and hold on |
30560s | to it and greet for it until you're |
30562s | going to get like oh yeah i'm gonna wait |
30564s | two things for sure |
30565s | huge it's gonna be an eight eight or |
30567s | something next turn already so yeah |
30571s | oh no |
30573s | just order this right and everything's |
30574s | huge |
30580s | well so there's two options here one you |
30582s | just leave the pellet ghost as is and |
30583s | you just play school teacher and then |
30585s | next turn your pelagos gets massive |
30588s | um the other option is you just play an |
30590s | amalgam don't get anything serpent wig |
30593s | now and then just go right that's what i |
30596s | wanted to do |
30598s | i want to get out of range of any sort |
30599s | of weirdness that the mage might throw |
30602s | at me and just hit them for 18 times |
30603s | yeah they can freeze it but it's still |
30605s | on the board doing its thing if it's |
30607s | frozen so |
30608s | yeah |
30611s | okay well theater would normally be a |
30613s | good guard on curve against a weak |
30615s | priest that thrived but |
30618s | um |
30619s | you can't afford to take 10 even if |
30620s | you're stealing a wig like |
30624s | all in due time |
30629s | is that the |
30630s | standard punishment for stealing a week |
30632s | these days |
30634s | yep |
30637s | okay so this is |
30639s | uh just the tube check |
30641s | the caster i've heard of it |
30644s | okay though the hands okay so |
30648s | oh it's three hang on |
30651s | on fire |
30652s | intellect |
30654s | oh okay and the doesn't touch forget |
30657s | about the enemy sure that's three then |
30658s | yeah |
30659s | game's working as intended |
30667s | but now c8 has |
30671s | infinite freezes it feels |
30673s | yup as the amplified snow flurry has the |
30677s | nightclub sanctum |
30679s | has a another flurry |
30682s | um you can space it out to where you |
30684s | have |
30685s | a good amount of freezes the next |
30687s | three ish turns at least freezing the |
30690s | higher power stuff |
30692s | that cloak sanctum also has a benefit |
30694s | that it's just putting a minion on board |
30695s | that you can use to |
30698s | trade and try and get this power down |
30700s | quickly |
30701s | it's gonna need them though |
30703s | because this is some large things |
30715s | like this board's not going away by |
30716s | being frozen so really going to need to |
30719s | get the tempo together too |
30722s | you freeze repeat make threats repeat |
30724s | which he could definitely do |
30744s | yep |
30765s | all right this is good this is good |
30770s | he just now has like freeze solid alibi |
30773s | next turn as a way to sort of bridge the |
30775s | gap you could do that and play a cold |
30777s | case |
30778s | so then you're not going to die you have |
30780s | a ton of options |
30781s | moving forward |
30783s | ooh deliverance |
30786s | you just make another minion on the |
30788s | board |
30789s | yeah sure |
30791s | yeah just circumvent something |
30794s | and then uh play the noggin link |
30796s | deliverance on the amplified snow flurry |
30798s | because at this point you kind of you |
30799s | kind of just want number a number of |
30801s | minions that are |
30803s | not susceptible to |
30804s | deathborn or reckless apprentice so in |
30806s | this case it'd be |
30809s | just more than two health |
30811s | take me pick me yeah and you don't want |
30813s | to be susceptible to being frozen either |
30815s | so you don't want anything particularly |
30817s | large you just want exactly what donkey |
30818s | is doing right just a whole bunch of |
30820s | tools |
30822s | yeah a whole bunch of mediums |
30831s | yeah i kind of like uh solid alibi |
30835s | uh ping something you don't even have to |
30838s | ping the pelagos just because |
30841s | um it is only gonna be dealing one with |
30843s | solid alibi |
30845s | um you could ping something that might |
30847s | die to a death board next turn |
30851s | like the other spear i suppose you could |
30854s | save the game |
30857s | oh you can save the ping as well because |
30858s | you're behind an alibi for now but next |
30859s | turn you've got to start freezing again |
30861s | so |
30863s | saving the the ping seems decent here |
30884s | if you don't care if the snow flurry |
30885s | dies so you're just kind of seeing where |
30887s | these go fine sharpening can be used as |
30890s | a heel as well with pelvis on the board |
30893s | it just sets the attack in health to |
30894s | equal |
30896s | so for example we'll |
30899s | bring the health of vicious sort of |
30901s | spirit up to |
30902s | x |
30904s | and then zero and four and then back to |
30906s | six again |
30908s | as it went through all the different |
30909s | things |
30923s | stuff |
30932s | i don't even know what the safari is |
30934s | it's probably like |
30936s | yeah it might have some um flowies in |
30937s | there followed out by flurry and |
30940s | wildfire |
30943s | i have no idea |
30947s | help cold case okay |
30949s | we've got two earth we've got one each |
30950s | and we let c8 763 have the other one so |
30953s | it's fine |
30961s | all right |
30962s | this is |
30964s | oh |
30968s | i even called it ice block yesterday and |
30970s | i i'm starting to agree with him i don't |
30972s | know these hallucinating ice blocks |
30976s | anybody door park aid station oh my god |
30981s | that's insane it's actually really good |
30986s | takes everything out of range |
30990s | yeah so you just heal up that trade in |
30992s | doggling heal up something else probably |
30994s | your six three |
30996s | oh |
30998s | take me pick me wow that is so good |
31006s | what's the response going to be here |
31009s | freezes he thinks it's bars yeah just |
31012s | keep freezing and hope |
31018s | [Applause] |
31022s | why is it so difficult for these 11 11s |
31024s | and 88s to do |
31026s | oh solid alibi you're silly |
31032s | all right what's left in the deck oh |
31034s | geez |
31035s | um |
31037s | can you swap |
31039s | there's another flurry right |
31040s | um |
31046s | yes it was last game where he used them |
31048s | or wasn't it yeah it was this game is a |
31049s | new game yes there's another flowy |
31053s | are you flurry |
31055s | then |
31056s | |
31059s | to that close no dawngrass |
31063s | but it could cast a cold case |
31066s | yeah i've seen the dawn girls play but |
31068s | that feels i mean is it it is an |
31069s | emergency but is it that much of an |
31071s | emergency it is |
31072s | emergency measures |
31075s | cold case probably just loses right |
31082s | stay where you are worry okay so now you |
31084s | get another flurry |
31088s | and you get to freeze and your hero |
31090s | power also freezes so he can freeze |
31092s | everything he can freeze literally |
31093s | everything |
31095s | and wildfire |
31096s | stay where you are and he held that hero |
31098s | power for two or three turns |
31100s | yeah |
31102s | that paid off |
31103s | yeah in spades |
31106s | this is |
31107s | i mean |
31108s | this stuff is like not going anywhere |
31110s | because the storm pike aid station is |
31111s | still there |
31114s | so it's just going to get even higher |
31115s | health and donkey's still at 30. |
31118s | yeah i don't know the hero power count |
31122s | let's assume it's enough but i don't |
31123s | think it might not be there's a reckless |
31125s | in hand anyways it'll be enough soon |
31132s | i'll work it backwards |
31134s | he held it for two turns i think |
31137s | i i don't think it's enough |
31139s | but it is worth three |
31142s | yeah but it's only been worth for three |
31144s | since last turn |
31146s | it's probably on nine |
31148s | or was four i don't know |
31153s | this is why he's called c8763 because |
31156s | that's how many |
31157s | more direction numbers are we don't know |
31159s | it's just eight seven six or three it's |
31160s | one of those |
31162s | quickly pick one |
31165s | here |
31173s | just continuing about this process of |
31176s | okay well |
31177s | we've gone from having all medium sized |
31179s | six sixes now look the game's gone let's |
31181s | just have all ten tens instead |
31185s | wardrobe is not active but another three |
31187s | might well activate it joking aside |
31191s | because if it's on seven for the three |
31192s | and two twos seems quite likely |
31195s | yeah they're i don't know there can't be |
31197s | enough here right like |
31207s | oh no the hero powers at five |
31211s | oh |
31212s | yeah |
31213s | oh so it's gonna get |
31215s | buffed |
31217s | and then can flurry and leave one minion |
31219s | up |
31222s | and can ping and buff it to nine |
31226s | oh no there's not going to be any |
31227s | minions up and another flurry oh my gosh |
31230s | this is stay away starting to get out of |
31232s | this |
31233s | tj what is happening |
31237s | is active |
31239s | how |
31241s | how |
31243s | i don't know |
31244s | i do not know c8763 has found a way to |
31248s | get this |
31250s | turn around i would say with the hero |
31251s | power doing 9 and active mordress |
31254s | how |
31258s | i don't know |
31259s | the board has been full of massive |
31261s | minions the whole game |
31264s | the donkey can heal these up |
31268s | a lot |
31269s | yeah that will this will heal it up to |
31271s | 12 and heal the other one up to 11 |
31274s | and then there's still one more turn of |
31275s | storm by gate station there's also a |
31277s | hand maintenance there's gonna be a lot |
31278s | of circuit wings |
31280s | there's gonna be a lot of health on |
31281s | these minions |
31283s | it needs to be because |
31285s | d8763 can do 19 |
31289s | one of them if he wants to |
31291s | i suspect he does want to because that |
31292s | sounds like a lot of damage |
31294s | my place |
31298s | this pelagos is on the board on turn |
31300s | three right and it's live |
31303s | and it hasn't mattered |
31310s | and that's |
31312s | the ping will clear up one the nightclub |
31314s | sanctum will freeze another |
31316s | oh my double ping next turn face pings |
31327s | this |
31328s | is |
31331s | probably the end of |
31334s | and by probably the end i mean |
31336s | that was a valiant effort i think that |
31338s | donkey played that very well but ca just |
31342s | fighting his time |
31344s | with the freezes |
31346s | like treasure that was how many turns |
31348s | was that |
31350s | six turns six turns off solid alibi plus |
31353s | freezes |
31355s | a massive board seven because pedego |
31357s | came down and turned three and now |
31358s | donkey has ten mana |
31360s | well polygons did attack so yeah |
31363s | the pellet goes oh that's what we mean |
31366s | six turns of actual freezing |
31368s | yeah |
31371s | the queen's |
31393s | [Music] |
31399s | [Music] |
31401s | ah doesn't matter i think that's yeah |
31403s | that's the reason why it doesn't matter |
31405s | yeah |
31407s | um but it's valiant effort but that is a |
31410s | tough game like that is |
31414s | uh |
31416s | i would cue a different deck |
31419s | if |
31420s | i lost like that |
31422s | um or like on ladder where you have yeah |
31424s | yes insurmountable board |
31426s | and it just gets frozen and |
31429s | solid alibi |
31431s | for six turns in a row |
31434s | until like a perfect like |
31437s | ping reckless apprentice freeze clear |
31440s | you just don't want to look at peace |
31442s | minions anymore at that point right it's |
31443s | like let's just kill the other deck |
31444s | because i do not want to look at any |
31446s | more priest minions for a good 20 |
31448s | minutes |
31452s | why would you ever want to look at them |
31453s | again |
31460s | okay that was that was actually a really |
31461s | good game of hearthstone to watch it's |
31463s | just |
31464s | brutal how it went down |
31466s | yeah i think both players played very |
31468s | well |
31469s | um i think that |
31471s | donkey understood having |
31473s | a lot of big targets on the board |
31476s | is better in the matchup than just |
31478s | having a single massive threat |
31481s | yeah played around all of the pieces of |
31484s | like aoe removal |
31486s | that c8 could could have |
31488s | and tried to go as wide as possible with |
31490s | as big as men as possible to play around |
31492s | the possibility of multiple minions |
31493s | getting frozen |
31495s | but c8 just |
31497s | solved the puzzle right or after turn of |
31500s | all right how many resources do i need |
31501s | to expend here just to stay alive |
31504s | and hope that everything comes together |
31507s | yeah that's right like the plan |
31509s | obviously |
31510s | magister don grasp casting the |
31513s | the flurry |
31514s | is the biggest one there if a cascoll |
31516s | case |
31519s | ea dies |
31520s | there was that sort of |
31522s | uh flip there in the mid game it did |
31524s | have to go right but he played to his |
31526s | outs which is what you need to do with |
31527s | that situation you can't control the |
31529s | outcomes of everything you just need to |
31530s | try and give yourself the best option to |
31531s | win and that was 100 |
31533s | the best odds to win so |
31535s | uh nicely done there was also like the |
31538s | panic |
31538s | uh |
31541s | the if you needed to desperately you |
31543s | could don grasp if it hits cold case you |
31545s | flurry then thinly and look for the |
31548s | second flurry that was still in the deck |
31550s | right and see if it's on the bottom so |
31552s | there was that out too |
31554s | uh available but now see it moving over |
31556s | to his final deck which is the ram druid |
31559s | it's the uh no celestial alignment lady |
31562s | in the conjurer ramp druid |
31564s | um everything we're going to see from |
31566s | next week on wisdom right because yeah |
31570s | as we |
31571s | will if the the rumors are correct and |
31574s | there's no celestial alignment you just |
31575s | you just play this |
31578s | yeah |
31578s | i i |
31579s | because of |
31581s | have they released the full ones i know |
31583s | alex teased it |
31585s | but if there's buffs to deck classes |
31587s | that like to be aggressive |
31590s | i don't know if this deck's gonna |
31591s | survive |
31592s | i mean we'll see but |
31595s | like if enraged warrior gets more |
31597s | support oh i see what you mean if you're |
31601s | yeah yeah and we've already discussed |
31603s | how druid kind of dies to a lot of decks |
31605s | already so yeah good point ah druid |
31608s | always finds a way |
31611s | and if it doesn't there'll be a card |
31612s | come out at christmas it's like naught |
31614s | manor start the game with seven mana |
31622s | this car starts in your hands |
31628s | it's not about him for c8 go coin growth |
31630s | into season |
31632s | and then insert |
31634s | random turn here and then topiar |
31637s | yeah and we've seen this before from |
31639s | donkey already in this match |
31641s | all the stuff and no spell |
31643s | [Music] |
31645s | there's people dancing on mailboxes |
31649s | there are three twos i'll take a three |
31651s | two |
31653s | into |
31654s | theo |
31656s | here we go |
31658s | amulet off the top nope |
31660s | deal something good slow the druid down |
31663s | just jam the guitar right like yeah |
31666s | you've got to |
31672s | insanity is no excuse for bad manners |
31677s | oh no oh my goodness that's just the |
31680s | worst three |
31696s | i think when you see those three you |
31699s | know you've whiffed as well somehow yeah |
31702s | uh see it already had an innervate |
31704s | topiar right so it wasn't that big of a |
31706s | deal |
31715s | and then you just |
31716s | you can't hit mana because you can keep |
31718s | rushing into |
31719s | the three twos to get a coin |
31722s | oh this is disgraceful behavior |
31730s | and then you can maybe get another |
31732s | innervate then you get another coin and |
31734s | then you could wild growth |
31737s | oh my what this is disgusting |
31740s | [Music] |
31745s | make them stop |
31747s | yeah i feel the same donkey just |
31749s | watching it's even worse to receive it |
31752s | [Applause] |
31756s | oh |
31757s | and then just one final coin to just |
31759s | play around the perfect sorcerer's |
31762s | butt spell came off the top |
31764s | yeah |
31765s | it didn't |
31767s | yeah yeah |
31768s | it's gonna cost them a chance at the top |
31770s | 16 but what can you do when this happens |
31773s | like you know you played your best in |
31774s | this match |
31775s | like yeah |
31777s | sometimes you sometimes it just happens |
31782s | and every time we see donkey it's |
31784s | happening at later and later stages it |
31786s | won't be long before we see them in the |
31787s | top 16 i'm sure but i don't think it's |
31790s | going to be today |
31793s | no |
31799s | this just uh that's a heel six |
31803s | that's what then oh connie did |
31806s | yeah |
31807s | like in the old days when you just jam a |
31809s | doomsayer and you know full well it's |
31811s | just going to get eaten |
31815s | okay discover a dragon |
31817s | malagos seems pretty good no innervates |
31820s | left to the deck though |
31822s | but that is |
31825s | 16 damage being represented on board |
31828s | i probably would have actually like set |
31829s | up lethal there instead of going for |
31830s | amalgam go gone for earthen scales |
31834s | notice something three three instead i |
31835s | guess one of the three ones getting |
31836s | kicked out but |
31840s | none of it |
31842s | makes any difference |
31860s | well |
31862s | well there's still a small chance |
31866s | [Music] |
31868s | barbaric sorceress |
31870s | if the runes picked up off the top nope |
31872s | if roon was picked up off the top |
31874s | it could be barbaric sorceress you hit a |
31876s | 50 50 to trade the rune with the |
31878s | composting okay skills and then you |
31881s | could coin out the rune |
31883s | and the rune would clear the board right |
31886s | summon a bunch of stuff |
31889s | and then you pair it next turn and then |
31891s | until they play who's the board against |
31893s | damage yeah |
31895s | yep there was a chance i agree i'll |
31897s | accept it because you're technically |
31899s | right which we all know is you know the |
31900s | tj |
31901s | sort of right |
31903s | okay oh |
31905s | we have a chance |
31910s | let's do it |
31911s | go on |
31914s | survive this turn first |
31923s | you know what you could do with right |
31924s | about now is none of those |
31927s | clear your own board |
31928s | play a one drop |
31932s | be its own treasure thus |
31941s | the 8763 like we've talked about |
31943s | donkey's side i think c8 has played |
31945s | incredibly well 763 in this game |
31950s | this match sorry he's going to play |
31952s | cards |
31953s | [Applause] |
31958s | it all comes down |
31961s | to this |
31963s | six-figure |
31966s | the miracle rune |
31972s | the room to end all runes |
31977s | yeah go on moon |
31984s | ruin your opponent's day wound orb |
31991s | blurry there's a pirate in hand now tj |
31994s | that must make our house even better |
31997s | blurry |
32001s | stop |
32002s | oh |
32007s | with a |
32008s | very good win see your donkey fingers |
32010s | crossed for donkey |
32012s | six and two could get in |
32015s | and i would love to see them in that top |
32017s | 16 but |
32019s | there's going to be a million players on |
32021s | six and two and probably two or three |
32022s | would get into that top 16 so |
32025s | probably not going to see donkey get in |
32027s | this tournament but we might |
32029s | um but even if we don't we'll see them |
32031s | again in the next one absolutely sure |
32033s | because they're just getting better and |
32034s | better each time |
32038s | yeah i would agree uh it's a pretty |
32040s | solid player overall uh from both |
32042s | players to be honest there was a couple |
32044s | of like uh |
32046s | flubs i think from on on both sides but |
32049s | overall like macro game plans on point |
32052s | the naga priests versus uh skeleton mage |
32055s | game was |
32057s | just a nice display from both players i |
32059s | thought um |
32060s | of uh understanding |
32062s | how to win |
32064s | in any given situation and it |
32067s | just got the better that of donkey |
32069s | that's it in that game but i thought it |
32071s | was a pretty cool one to watch |
32075s | um and with that with c8 taking that win |
32077s | uh we are we've had we finished we |
32080s | finished all the games i'm looking we |
32081s | just finished the tournament's over we |
32083s | could all go home that's it we finished |
32085s | all the games so we've cut to our top 16 |
32088s | and that's it tournament's over |
32089s | congratulations to the top 16. |
32092s | if we're not going to show you we're |
32093s | just going to go |
32094s | and |
32095s | based on |
32097s | based on my calculations these are my |
32100s | personal calculations okay no |
32102s | third-party website that tracks these |
32104s | things my personal calculations donkey |
32106s | has made it into the top 16. oh those |
32109s | are my |
32110s | those are my personal cats we're into |
32111s | the phone i don't think he's made it i |
32113s | don't think they're going to make it |
32114s | through i think we have to wait till |
32115s | next tournament and continue the |
32116s | narrative of the improving donkey |
32119s | um i've been told |
32121s | uh |
32122s | we might be able |
32126s | we do we're going to be able to and |
32128s | bracket oh my talk for a little while |
32131s | longer to stall out so i'm disappointing |
32133s | you tj because you said at the start of |
32135s | that match |
32136s | that you were going to say c8763's full |
32139s | name every time |
32141s | and you didn't |
32143s | and i did i avoided saying his name |
32145s | as much as i could all right we have the |
32148s | bracket |
32149s | we have the top 16 bracket |
32153s | let us rejoice |
32155s | donkey has made it he is the top seed at |
32158s | six and two the highest tiebreaker 6-2 |
32160s | player so |
32161s | uh wasn't even close but this is a great |
32164s | top 16. uh one because japan showed up |
32168s | we have our two previous world champions |
32170s | and glory and possessing in the top 16. |
32172s | a game |
32173s | who was one of the uh og |
32176s | japanese representatives in competitive |
32178s | hearthstone we have love storm at the |
32180s | number one seed 8-0 |
32182s | going for another master short victory |
32184s | a storm of love throughout this master's |
32187s | tour |
32189s | last time when he won by the way as well |
32192s | yeah that's that is correct that is |
32194s | correct and the meta gives me similar |
32196s | vibes but we also have |
32199s | as is tradition |
32201s | our one american player in the top 16. |
32205s | gamer rpg |
32210s | every time we just sit here every time |
32212s | go this is gonna be the one in 16 and |
32214s | then we've got eight left and we're |
32215s | cheering for |
32216s | japan because all the americans region |
32219s | players are out |
32220s | and we don't want europe to win because |
32221s | sottle gets excited |
32224s | yeah as americans have it tough tj |
32228s | but |
32229s | also looking at stone and looking at |
32231s | matty over there on the right |
32233s | yep maddie |
32236s | maddie um |
32238s | he was pretty big at the end of last |
32240s | year um went missing a bit sort of early |
32243s | this year i think but he's back he was |
32245s | somebody we're billing as you know |
32246s | player who might win soon stone |
32249s | very close to the world championship |
32250s | once again last week |
32252s | um didn't quite get there but one of the |
32255s | favorites to get there from the |
32257s | the second round when it comes up of the |
32259s | the chinese tournaments |
32261s | so |
32262s | really good looking top 16. |
32266s | and uh as is edition |
32269s | we have to uh |
32270s | uh give shout outs uh to the six to play |
32274s | the the i'll say notable but i don't |
32276s | want to take anything away from any of |
32277s | the other 62 players these are just 60 |
32279s | players that you know we we've watched |
32282s | um from time |
32283s | over the course of competitive arsenal's |
32285s | history uh lakewood hacker monsanto |
32289s | banter face bunny hopper fury hunter |
32294s | i rock |
32296s | yeah |
32298s | wet goose shouty |
32301s | deads |
32302s | always making a run up there |
32304s | never count deads out |
32308s | uh yeah so oh tianming |
32312s | a melody as well he's somebody that |
32313s | isn't necessarily |
32315s | one that we see very much but always |
32317s | seems to be six too |
32320s | i think a bunch of others as well i'm |
32321s | sorry if you didn't get shouted out then |
32323s | we went through about half |
32325s | yeah |
32327s | well we uh got a pretty solid top 16 i |
32330s | feel um i i know we always say that but |
32333s | uh like from what we've seen from |
32335s | players on stream at least the players |
32337s | that have made it |
32338s | and uh |
32340s | the players that we didn't know right |
32343s | yep uh that we've seen on stream as well |
32345s | as you know these players with a huge |
32347s | amount of history behind them like you |
32349s | know our previous two world champions in |
32351s | the top 16 |
32353s | at this master store which is uh pretty |
32355s | incredible uh enough we have a chance |
32358s | for a player to win |
32359s | another master store right a master |
32361s | store |
32362s | uh second make it to another yes yeah |
32365s | there you go |
32366s | thank you |
32367s | though um isn't french who isn't french |
32371s | yep that's right we also have probably |
32373s | about as good of a chance as we're ever |
32376s | gonna get for an asia pacific master |
32378s | tour champion |
32380s | uh with |
32382s | one two |
32383s | three |
32385s | four |
32386s | five |
32388s | wow what should what's going on in the |
32390s | top 16 |
32392s | uh which is |
32394s | cool a lot a lot of representation we |
32396s | have representation for every every |
32397s | region but it's majority european and |
32400s | chinese but uh |
32402s | asia pacific and americas are there |
32405s | okay we're we're going on too much neil |
32407s | this is why they can't let us in the |
32408s | show because we will we will never stop |
32410s | but uh we are done we have nowhere |
32413s | matches broadcast today neil do you have |
32415s | any last words before |
32416s | [Laughter] |
32419s | uh before i close out the sheet no i |
32421s | think i've said enough words for one |
32423s | broadcast day again so i'm gonna let you |
32425s | do your thing tj with the style of which |
32428s | we are all accustomed |
32429s | okay if my words will actually escape my |
32432s | mouth |
32432s | all right uh we are done we will return |
32435s | tomorrow at the same time we've been |
32436s | starting uh over the course of the last |
32438s | uh two days which is 11 a.m uh eastern |
32443s | time |
32444s | uh 8 00 a.m pacific time |
32447s | um |
32449s | p.m central european standard time 5 pm |
32452s | central europe summertime |
32454s | 4 p.m whatever time the uk is in |
32458s | uh |
32459s | and we are in british summer time and |
32461s | boy can't we feel it |
32463s | there you go and all the other times as |
32466s | well that i'm forgetting so make sure |
32467s | you tune in because top 16 is going to |
32469s | be great we're going to crown champion |
32471s | one other cool thing about tomorrow and |
32472s | this happens year after year is |
32474s | tomorrow's my birthday so it's going to |
32476s | be a top 16 |
32477s | it's going to be tj's birthday it's |
32479s | going to be a lot of great hearthstone |
32480s | to watch it's going to be fantastic |
32483s | so you're not going to want to miss it |
32484s | but that's it for myself from the rinda |
32486s | the other casters in the broadcast crew |
32488s | thanks for watching and we'll see you |
32489s | tomorrow for more masters tour action |
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32553s | sneaky |
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32672s | okay i can rest this problem now i'm |
32674s | much happier having seen this happen pew |
32677s | pew pew pew |
32687s | the cleric is still alive the pyro ready |
32689s | to whirlwind the amulet of the undying |
32692s | coming down the boar is getting it done |
32694s | drove open scenes and pocket train is |
32697s | the winner of masters tour this year |
32700s | what a performance |
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