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| 1s | foreign |
| 6s | and welcome to the first of what I'm |
| 9s | sure will be many many volumes streams |
| 13s | uh very excited to finally be able to |
| 15s | say the words of all the more to players |
| 17s | I'm not gonna lie uh after lots of |
| 20s | secrets were kept uh before the summer |
| 23s | Summit this year so it feels good to |
| 25s | finally be able to say these words so |
| 26s | yeah I am joined by the one and only mod |
| 30s | other how are you doing today |
| 32s | hello yeah I'm not |
| 35s | to be honest um coming off the back of a |
| 38s | long stint of design work for all this |
| 40s | file more stuff so you know what better |
| 42s | time to talk about it |
| 46s | exactly exactly so yeah if you if you |
| 49s | couldn't figure out already we're going |
| 51s | to be discussing the first blog that |
| 53s | we've released about our planned file |
| 55s | more content or at least the first part |
| 56s | of art lemon more uh the hunter Guild uh |
| 60s | it's a fresh look at how we can make |
| 62s | Hunter a fun and engaging skill to use |
| 64s | in case you missed it uh drop an |
| 66s | exclamation mark hunter in the chat to |
| 68s | get a link both to the original blog and |
| 70s | the freshly dropped feedback blog that |
| 73s | we released about I feel it was over an |
| 75s | hour ago now around then |
| 78s | um so yeah check that out if you want to |
| 80s | have a read while you're listening to us |
| 82s | uh chat everything about the hunter |
| 84s | Guild and before we jump into the Q a we |
| 87s | have a few announcements to go through |
| 89s | so first up exclamation mark Game Hunter |
| 92s | a Game Hunter I'm really really in the |
| 95s | hunter mindset right now yeah |
| 96s | exclamation mark game update uh the path |
| 99s | of Guthrie is Live this week game update |
| 102s | brings the newest quest for the gnome |
| 104s | storyline and more alright exclamation |
| 107s | mark trailer is next and we've partnered |
| 110s | with our dear friend Hootie to create |
| 112s | this amazing trailer for The Path of |
| 113s | Guthrie so check it out with that |
| 115s | command it is a fantastic trailer who he |
| 118s | always delivers smashed it out the park |
| 120s | like like normal uh and next exclamation |
| 124s | mark dead man the end is nine dead man |
| 127s | apocalypse comes to its epic conclusion |
| 129s | live on Twitch this Saturday so you |
| 132s | don't want to miss out uh full details |
| 134s | are in the blog we put out today I |
| 136s | believe |
| 137s | um so you can check out all the |
| 138s | information there and finally if you |
| 142s | couldn't guess it exclamation mark |
| 143s | Hunter check out our original blog and |
| 146s | the updated feedback blog for full |
| 148s | details on the hunter Guild and what |
| 150s | we'll be discussing today |
| 153s | um all right just before we jump into |
| 154s | the Q a there's a few uh game update |
| 157s | fixes that have been added to uh today's |
| 160s | script that I should talk about so |
| 163s | first off next week shooting stars will |
| 166s | no longer deplete faster if other |
| 167s | players are mining them for solo scouted |
| 170s | Stars we would like to add a small extra |
| 172s | incentive to reward players but this |
| 174s | needs to be pulled first we're currently |
| 176s | looking at a 50 buff to Stardust for |
| 178s | five minutes if you're the first to |
| 180s | minus star and will confirm hopefully by |
| 182s | next week's News Post |
| 184s | next the new poison way Spirit tree will |
| 187s | be moved to the end of the list by next |
| 189s | week in the future we'd love to add the |
| 191s | ability to customize spiritually |
| 193s | locations but that's a much larger job |
| 195s | also to this incentivize griefing in the |
| 200s | Guardians of the rift minigame we will |
| 201s | be stopping players getting mine in XP |
| 203s | after you've mined a certain amount of |
| 205s | times in one game all of these changes |
| 208s | could be found in the game update News |
| 209s | Post by using exclamation mark game |
| 212s | update |
| 214s | all right with that being said uh we |
| 216s | should probably jump straight into the Q |
| 218s | a |
| 219s | um I will say it's been really nice |
| 222s | actually to see all the feedback about |
| 226s | the new additions that we made to |
| 228s | accessibility were the news post it was |
| 230s | something I've wanted to do for a long |
| 231s | long time |
| 232s | and I thought let's just do it while I |
| 235s | was a good place as any to start so |
| 238s | hopefully we can continue it |
| 240s | um and you guys enjoy them so it |
| 242s | probably won't be for every single News |
| 244s | Post we release but at least the big |
| 245s | ones of Alma I'm planning to do them all |
| 247s | so yeah we'll we'll see what happens so |
| 250s | let's dive into the questions mod over |
| 253s | first how are you feeling about the the |
| 255s | release of the blogs and the hunter |
| 256s | Guild uh as a whole at the moment |
| 259s | yeah yeah pretty good I mean it's it's |
| 262s | one of those things where it's like |
| 263s | we're never going to be able to |
| 265s | sort everything with a skill like Hunter |
| 267s | in one go |
| 269s | um and we've had so much feedback to |
| 272s | work through over the last three days |
| 276s | um but it's been good there's there's so |
| 278s | much positivity for a lot of the changes |
| 279s | we you know we're looking to make |
| 282s | um and I think it's a really good sort |
| 284s | of |
| 285s | First Step forwards towards making |
| 287s | Hunter a skill that belongs in 2023's |
| 291s | version of old school RuneScape |
| 293s | um |
| 294s | and I won't be distracted talking about |
| 297s | the fact that some of that script was |
| 299s | written I'm sure it hasn't been touched |
| 301s | since Hunter released originally |
| 304s | um it kicks me off at night |
| 307s | so yeah there's there's some work going |
| 309s | into modernizing |
| 311s | the sort of backhand side of Hunter at |
| 314s | the same time |
| 315s | um which I think sets us up as well |
| 317s | looking to the future you know if we |
| 319s | have something that's a little easier to |
| 320s | work with we can sort of make a lot more |
| 323s | adaptive changes and do a lot more |
| 324s | things on the Fly and yeah it's all it's |
| 327s | all very exciting really from sort of a |
| 330s | Content that's going out and and sort of |
| 332s | from working on it |
| 334s | script side |
| 336s | awesome stuff awesome stuff I think |
| 339s | Baltimore in itself has got a lot of uh |
| 342s | interesting places to go to visit |
| 343s | especially in part one so uh and you'll |
| 347s | definitely see a lot more about that |
| 349s | soon uh but for now let's start with the |
| 352s | very first question uh why did you |
| 355s | decide to remove the Hunter's Bolas and |
| 358s | we've put this as the first question |
| 359s | because we know we've seen a lot of |
| 360s | feedback from the feedback blog |
| 363s | um so we thought we might as well |
| 365s | address this first |
| 367s | yeah I think there's like |
| 370s | there's an element of working out like |
| 372s | what the players are comfortable with |
| 374s | that's gone into it |
| 377s | I'm trying to put forward the idea of a |
| 380s | hybrid weapon and finding a slot to |
| 383s | pitch something that is going to be |
| 385s | thematic to valmore so a lot of my ideas |
| 389s | are like we're going to this new place |
| 390s | we're seeing a lot of new people they're |
| 393s | going to be doing new things because if |
| 394s | they're doing the same old stuff like do |
| 397s | you really want to walk around and |
| 398s | explore and get to know them and see |
| 400s | what they're up to because you're going |
| 401s | to get nothing new |
| 403s | um and then that's sort of tempered with |
| 406s | a hit of like well we don't want to |
| 409s | introduce like |
| 410s | Peak pvm equipment from Hunter |
| 413s | necessarily on its own |
| 416s | um so all those were my initial thought |
| 419s | for something thematic |
| 421s | yes there is history there you know that |
| 424s | that's kind of the big kind of weight on |
| 427s | on the idea |
| 429s | but they would have fit you know the |
| 432s | things that we're looking to be hunting |
| 433s | I think I thought it would be a cool |
| 435s | weapon that really does fit that hybrid |
| 437s | like you're throwing it you need to be |
| 439s | accurate with your range but you need to |
| 441s | be physically strong to really |
| 443s | pack that punch |
| 446s | um |
| 447s | and I I did I toyed between Bowlers |
| 450s | Spears |
| 452s | um the idea of like a weapon that's on a |
| 454s | string would kind of be kind of cool as |
| 457s | well |
| 458s | um |
| 459s | and I believe them things like that |
| 461s | maybe explored elsewhere in Baltimore |
| 463s | um we've we've certainly had some good |
| 465s | discussions internally about that kind |
| 467s | of weapon and like what we can look to |
| 470s | do with it |
| 472s | um but yeah we opted to swap off of |
| 474s | Bowlers sort of almost back to the |
| 476s | original spare concept |
| 479s | um just because like |
| 482s | there's there's probably too much |
| 484s | history and even though a lot of us on |
| 487s | the team were comfortable with the fact |
| 488s | that actually they were very very |
| 489s | different you know we had taken into |
| 492s | account a lot of the original concerns |
| 493s | of Bowlers when we looked at sort of |
| 496s | spec cost and like sort of the power |
| 498s | level it's going to sit out and how you |
| 500s | have to get them |
| 501s | but really |
| 503s | it it wasn't gelling you know the |
| 505s | feedback was mostly that it just wasn't |
| 508s | quite gelling |
| 511s | um so you know we we refer to the |
| 513s | original design and |
| 515s | that's okay you know that's that's I |
| 518s | think we're still going to get something |
| 519s | really interesting in this sort of |
| 521s | hunters equipment kind of thing |
| 524s | um and I think we we lay some |
| 526s | interesting foundations here that you |
| 529s | know I've got designs that we can then |
| 531s | build on |
| 533s | um hopefully you know we've got game |
| 535s | jams coming up so a really good |
| 537s | opportunity to explore that |
| 540s | yeah yeah very true they they did fit |
| 543s | very thematically with Hunter as a skill |
| 546s | um and for those that I saw a couple |
| 548s | questions in chat actually about the |
| 549s | history of Bowlers it's not the history |
| 551s | of Bowlers as a weapon |
| 553s | in IRL purposes but boaters were I |
| 557s | believe introduced previously uh and |
| 560s | there was contention about how they were |
| 561s | used previously which again whatever has |
| 565s | said that we looked at |
| 567s | um when we were designing them |
| 569s | um |
| 570s | but on that note then whatever how will |
| 573s | the hunters spear be useful without the |
| 575s | bowlers special |
| 577s | um you know this is maybe maybe a |
| 579s | controversial take I don't think it has |
| 581s | to be useful it doesn't have to drop |
| 583s | with this obvious like I'm gonna get the |
| 586s | hunter Spear and do this exact content |
| 589s | there's this element it's a very |
| 591s | restrictive thought I think that |
| 593s | everything that we design has to have |
| 596s | some immediate place where it is the |
| 599s | best item you can use for it because |
| 601s | what happens is we keep then reverting |
| 604s | to kind of we revert to type you know we |
| 607s | think about can we do something new with |
| 609s | combat okay well here's an idea for a |
| 612s | throne weapon that scales off of your |
| 614s | melee strength do we have a couple of |
| 616s | places where actually yeah you might be |
| 617s | swapping between ranged and melee and |
| 620s | this serves as like |
| 622s | almost like an entryway into gear |
| 624s | swapping yeah I think I think we have |
| 626s | room to say like this this probably |
| 628s | works with really good entry into |
| 630s | content where you're gear swapping and |
| 632s | you can only you know you're thinking |
| 634s | about like so many things and maybe it |
| 636s | just cuts it down a bit maybe you don't |
| 638s | have to swap your armor anymore because |
| 640s | you've got a weapon that's going to hit |
| 642s | through |
| 643s | some creatures melee press |
| 646s | um |
| 647s | but I I really want to sort of dispel |
| 650s | the notion that absolutely everything |
| 651s | has to come in and it has to be useful |
| 655s | um |
| 656s | because I think we just end up in this |
| 658s | situation where we abandon creative |
| 662s | ideas and potential in favor of saying |
| 666s | well you know players would want this to |
| 668s | only be useful when you know it's it's |
| 672s | not a massive investment of the dev time |
| 674s | on this project to have a go with |
| 676s | something like this |
| 678s | um so that's you know that's where we're |
| 679s | at we're having a go |
| 683s | yeah and we thought you know it's still |
| 685s | there and it still works with the mix |
| 687s | hide set which is what the mix headset |
| 688s | is based uh is why we put in there |
| 690s | because it emphasizes that idea of a |
| 693s | range weapon that can use melee strength |
| 695s | which is an interesting angle to explore |
| 697s | and definitely offers or allows us to |
| 701s | open up the reward space a little bit |
| 702s | more by using this as a I suppose kind |
| 705s | of testing ground but it's definitely |
| 707s | something that could fill some gaps or |
| 709s | niches |
| 711s | um be interesting to see if they pass uh |
| 714s | you know how you guys would use them so |
| 716s | yeah definitely interesting |
| 718s | uh okay next on the questions are are |
| 722s | rumors one and done tracks or are they |
| 725s | more akin to Slayer tasks where you |
| 726s | would have to hunt a certain amount of |
| 729s | creatures |
| 730s | so |
| 734s | the one we're going with you hunt and |
| 736s | then you will at some point you will get |
| 738s | the drop it's a little bit orangey |
| 740s | um |
| 742s | the attempt will obviously be to balance |
| 744s | it so it doesn't feel too bad and you |
| 746s | know you're not necessarily going to go |
| 748s | there hunt like two creatures and leave |
| 749s | because what we're looking for is really |
| 754s | I'm trying to get people out hunting in |
| 756s | the world |
| 757s | and just |
| 760s | I want to see people at different hunter |
| 762s | locations |
| 763s | um |
| 765s | and I thought about a numbered based |
| 767s | system |
| 769s | um but it didn't for me it didn't sit |
| 771s | with the thematics of Baltimore of the |
| 773s | guild |
| 775s | um I think there's you know a lot of the |
| 779s | design decisions I think will make more |
| 780s | sense when we have this full picture of |
| 782s | valimore from future blogs on you know |
| 784s | other content we're introducing and you |
| 787s | know the stuff we get through the quests |
| 789s | and things like that |
| 791s | um so yeah it's it's not specifically |
| 794s | numbers based I didn't want people sort |
| 796s | of fishing for things where the numbers |
| 798s | are optimal |
| 801s | um I really wanted to have a design that |
| 803s | really dissuades people from trying to |
| 806s | find like oh it's only worth doing like |
| 809s | XYZ rumor because you know this is going |
| 813s | to maximize your sort of time to Rewards |
| 817s | um because also that that ends up |
| 818s | feeling less rewarding for like people |
| 820s | doing certain Skilling methods like if |
| 822s | you want to take manipulate box traps to |
| 825s | speed up times where you're using them |
| 828s | if it turns out that there's actually an |
| 830s | optimal meta where you never do that |
| 831s | then like you've got this skill and you |
| 832s | haven't really got room to use it and |
| 834s | express it and |
| 837s | yeah it's kind of finding that balance |
| 839s | basically |
| 842s | yeah I think that's that's world Pokemon |
| 844s | other yeah so it's it's it's definitely |
| 846s | different it's based on that same sort |
| 849s | of premise but I feel like Hunter rumors |
| 853s | needed that difference rather than just |
| 855s | being a copy paste of uh Slayer tasks |
| 858s | you know |
| 859s | yeah |
| 862s | um right awesome thank you for those who |
| 865s | didn't read the blog actually we did |
| 866s | estimate |
| 868s | um it would take about eight to ten |
| 869s | minutes obviously RNG dependent |
| 871s | sometimes you might get spoon fed a rare |
| 873s | creature part sometimes you might have |
| 875s | to go a little bit more just to get that |
| 877s | um but that's the sort of the average |
| 878s | we're looking at at the moment |
| 881s | cool all right for the next question uh |
| 883s | for what can content do you see the |
| 885s | Hunter's sunlight crossbow being used I |
| 888s | had to really force myself not to say |
| 889s | Moonlight crossbow then |
| 892s | yeah I think it's an interesting one a |
| 895s | quicker crossbow is you know it it |
| 897s | offers something slightly different |
| 901s | um mostly perhaps this is my own |
| 902s | frustration with regular crossbow speeds |
| 905s | where you're like one you're about to |
| 907s | attack your your one tick short and then |
| 909s | you click to move because there's like a |
| 911s | mechanic you need to dodge or there's |
| 912s | just |
| 913s | you just click to move because you want |
| 915s | to move |
| 916s | she I do that quite a lot |
| 918s | um |
| 920s | I think it would I think |
| 924s | native where |
| 926s | you don't want to lose those ticks |
| 928s | because you're moving a tick too early |
| 930s | or you're doing something a tick too |
| 931s | early |
| 932s | um |
| 933s | and I think going forwards like it opens |
| 937s | up a lot of doors having almost like an |
| 939s | alternate progression path through |
| 941s | crossbows so obviously you have your |
| 943s | metal crossbows where you've got your |
| 946s | Enchanted bolts and you have that |
| 948s | progression |
| 950s | and what I want to |
| 952s | encourage is this development of a |
| 955s | progression path that's like Hunters |
| 956s | crossbow |
| 958s | sunlight Hunters crossbow and a range of |
| 961s | bolts from like higher and higher level |
| 962s | creatures that do interesting things and |
| 965s | saying is a real shame that we don't |
| 968s | have like |
| 969s | this sort of depth of things you can do |
| 973s | with |
| 975s | what Hunters like Hunter creatures could |
| 977s | offer so many different things |
| 979s | um like imagine bolts like giving you |
| 982s | away like another way to poison |
| 984s | creatures using some poisonous creature |
| 987s | to make Hunters bolts |
| 989s | um that was one that you know ended up |
| 991s | cut from the design |
| 993s | and the idea of applying a bleed as well |
| 996s | um I think is really cool like you could |
| 998s | get like Jagged bolts made out of bones |
| 1000s | that would then bleed your target |
| 1002s | um |
| 1003s | and I think it just it offers this |
| 1005s | alternative to like here's a bolt prop |
| 1007s | that goes completely bypasses your |
| 1010s | opponent's defense like we can always do |
| 1012s | like status effects with Hunter bolts |
| 1015s | where they wouldn't really fit as much |
| 1018s | with the enchanted bolt kind of system |
| 1023s | yeah I think there's definitely room to |
| 1025s | explore new avenues for bolts especially |
| 1028s | specifically with the Hunter's sunlight |
| 1031s | crossbow being used |
| 1033s | um which is definitely a a cool Avenue |
| 1036s | to go down I think |
| 1038s | um all right the next question is uh how |
| 1041s | much of the feedback changes were due to |
| 1043s | PVP feedback and I want to I want to |
| 1046s | jump in quickly before whatever answers |
| 1048s | this because |
| 1051s | these changes that we've made we don't |
| 1055s | just look at one area |
| 1057s | for feedback even if they do contribute |
| 1061s | to making a change so none of these |
| 1065s | changes was just because of PVP feedback |
| 1067s | or just because of use against other |
| 1069s | players there's multiple angles on it so |
| 1073s | just please bear that in mind even |
| 1075s | though it might seem like that it that's |
| 1077s | not the case |
| 1080s | yeah so in terms of like how many of the |
| 1082s | feedback changes we've made with due to |
| 1086s | the easiest way to put it is we had a |
| 1089s | lot of these considerations in the |
| 1092s | design phase or at least you know I did |
| 1094s | because it's mostly my design |
| 1097s | um |
| 1098s | and |
| 1099s | a lot of there's a lot obviously a lot |
| 1101s | of information that like we can't blog |
| 1103s | because putting a dissertation length |
| 1106s | design in front of people no one's going |
| 1108s | to read that |
| 1110s | um well they might listen to it though |
| 1111s | to be fair they might listen to it |
| 1114s | um |
| 1115s | so it's it's really like what we've done |
| 1118s | is we've gone away we've looked at you |
| 1119s | know a huge amount of aggregated |
| 1121s | feedback from the surveys from Reddit |
| 1124s | from Twitter from like everywhere that |
| 1127s | we've got feedback and we sat down and |
| 1130s | we said okay are we introducing |
| 1132s | something that is going to be unhealthy |
| 1135s | for certain areas |
| 1137s | in a way that we can avoid |
| 1140s | content side |
| 1142s | um so like for a lot of the changes like |
| 1145s | they're true to the design |
| 1148s | but we've given them a little we've |
| 1150s | given them like a little vitamin shot so |
| 1151s | they're healthier you know |
| 1154s | um |
| 1155s | and I think it's really important that |
| 1156s | we do that we keep you know we do need |
| 1158s | to keep in mind that like some people |
| 1160s | will just use new things to rag with and |
| 1164s | perhaps that's not going to work when |
| 1166s | you know we we've done a lot of really |
| 1168s | good things for PVP updates then to turn |
| 1170s | around and be like here's a whole bunch |
| 1172s | of cheap stuff for ragas |
| 1174s | it kind of we end up contradicting our |
| 1176s | own design philosophies |
| 1178s | by not making these changes |
| 1181s | um so yeah I think some would have been |
| 1184s | due to PVP feedback and concerns but we |
| 1187s | were in the design like that stuff was |
| 1189s | in design already |
| 1192s | um |
| 1194s | yeah yeah it's yeah it's definitely |
| 1197s | something that maybe I should have been |
| 1199s | a bit clearer in the blog like exactly |
| 1201s | what areas it was addressing and use the |
| 1204s | word ragging because it that was the |
| 1206s | problem or at least one of the problems |
| 1208s | we saw when we were discussing feedback |
| 1211s | um so maybe that's on my part to |
| 1212s | actually say like look this is part of |
| 1215s | the reason why and it's important |
| 1216s | because that they would have been is |
| 1219s | seems like from all our discussions and |
| 1221s | the feedback we saw and the easy go-to |
| 1223s | and not just an easy a very easy go-to |
| 1226s | um which we wouldn't have wanted |
| 1230s | so yeah all right |
| 1232s | um the next question we have is can we |
| 1234s | have a different use of fennec foxes |
| 1236s | than killing them they're too cute to |
| 1238s | kill |
| 1240s | oh gosh |
| 1245s | oh gosh and |
| 1246s | this actually this |
| 1249s | this quite a I say a deep issue with |
| 1252s | Hunter as a whole in that it's Slayer |
| 1254s | with traps rather than combat but |
| 1258s | yeah a lot of the things are pretty cute |
| 1261s | and perhaps killing them is not the |
| 1262s | right approach as it stands we're not |
| 1265s | rebuilding hunter from the ground up |
| 1268s | um we can discuss a potential |
| 1270s | replacement two fennec foxes |
| 1272s | um you know maybe there's something that |
| 1275s | people would be more comfortable |
| 1277s | trapping with a giant rock falling on |
| 1279s | their head |
| 1280s | um but you know I think where where we |
| 1283s | stand is is that we sort of have these |
| 1286s | creatures they look really great you |
| 1288s | know |
| 1290s | um and we want to make use of them we |
| 1291s | don't want some fantastic models and and |
| 1294s | animations and stuff just sort of sat in |
| 1296s | storage because like there's no use for |
| 1298s | them |
| 1300s | um so yeah that's kind of where we're at |
| 1301s | with fennec foxes but they are cute they |
| 1304s | are very cute |
| 1306s | they are cute but this is Hunter |
| 1309s | we're here to hunt things so I'm like |
| 1312s | you know for me it doesn't matter how |
| 1314s | cute something is if it's in the hunter |
| 1316s | skill it's there to be hunted so and |
| 1319s | don't get me wrong fennec fox is a qaf |
| 1323s | but if it's gonna get me uh some XP and |
| 1328s | some goodies out of it they're going |
| 1330s | down so I mean if we want cute things we |
| 1333s | literally have |
| 1335s | that we throw and explode on |
| 1337s | people so |
| 1340s | yeah pathetic foxes don't explode I |
| 1342s | think we're really doing well compared |
| 1344s | to Gin jumpers |
| 1346s | they are literally yeah the essence of |
| 1349s | cute explosive creatures so it's |
| 1352s | something that uh that you should keep |
| 1354s | in mind when looking at the other |
| 1355s | creatures we're pitching so you know |
| 1358s | chinchons are so adorable |
| 1360s | so adorable |
| 1362s | so maybe think about that maybe have a |
| 1364s | moral dilemma next time you're throwing |
| 1366s | a chin jumper at somebody or something |
| 1368s | all right think about what that little |
| 1370s | life means |
| 1373s | all right we'll move on to the next uh |
| 1375s | question before we delve down the rabbit |
| 1377s | hole of uh |
| 1379s | creature ethics |
| 1380s | um |
| 1381s | all right the next question the next |
| 1384s | question is what would you think of |
| 1386s | allowing players to eat again during the |
| 1388s | hunter meet heal over time forfeit in |
| 1390s | any remaining healing from that meat |
| 1393s | I feel like this was one of the big |
| 1395s | discussions that we've had internally |
| 1396s | following the feedback |
| 1398s | um some people didn't like the element |
| 1399s | of being locked out from eating again |
| 1402s | and found that would be too disruptive |
| 1406s | personally I'm I'm kind of 50 50 like I |
| 1409s | think we introduced an interesting |
| 1411s | difference to that eating system where |
| 1414s | like |
| 1415s | you don't just want to take an inventory |
| 1417s | full of Hunter meets you want to have |
| 1418s | Hunter Meats to give you the extra hit |
| 1421s | points and then you want to have things |
| 1423s | that you can eat in an emergency if |
| 1425s | you've already eaten something else |
| 1428s | um I think the idea of forfeiting the |
| 1430s | healing is the right balance to allow |
| 1433s | players not to be restricted |
| 1437s | um |
| 1437s | because then you're still rewarded for |
| 1440s | you know effectively you're rewarded for |
| 1441s | risking waiting for that heal by getting |
| 1444s | it |
| 1445s | um and you know one of the tweaks we've |
| 1448s | made is is bringing some of that healing |
| 1450s | taking it out of the upfront and |
| 1452s | increasing the delayed heal because like |
| 1456s | that is where like that is what the |
| 1458s | design is for it's something that |
| 1460s | changes up |
| 1461s | how we eat |
| 1463s | and adds an element of decision making |
| 1465s | an element of risk you know |
| 1468s | I don't really know how people are going |
| 1470s | to use these you know we've had some |
| 1472s | discussions internally like if it's |
| 1474s | reliable then like what about tick |
| 1477s | eating well this could be a really |
| 1478s | creative way to Ticky |
| 1481s | um depending on the implementation so |
| 1484s | I think like allowing them to eat again |
| 1486s | forfeit the heel that's kind of fine it |
| 1490s | forces you to make a choice because I |
| 1492s | think that probably addresses the |
| 1493s | question we're going to have coming up |
| 1494s | later about like what happens to fish |
| 1496s | when we introduce things that heal more |
| 1499s | um |
| 1500s | I mean you know what happens to fish |
| 1502s | when players get the ability to stock up |
| 1504s | on sourdome and Brews and super restores |
| 1507s | um |
| 1509s | it's yeah kind of an element of like we |
| 1512s | need we need players making an active |
| 1514s | decision between the two so like that is |
| 1516s | where the design has ended up |
| 1519s | yeah and this I think it's important to |
| 1521s | note as well alongside the Bruce |
| 1522s | statement that not every fish right now |
| 1526s | is there to constantly Munch down and |
| 1529s | regain your health you look at things |
| 1531s | like Quran ones and monkfish for example |
| 1534s | you wouldn't normally take like it's hot |
| 1537s | you wouldn't feel your inventory for the |
| 1538s | crab brands for example they're there as |
| 1540s | like a utility to help with healing |
| 1544s | um so these could be seen as this as the |
| 1547s | same light as them maybe you don't want |
| 1549s | to bring a full inventory full of them |
| 1551s | maybe you want to just bring a couple |
| 1553s | that would give you that boost when you |
| 1555s | know you're not going to be damaged |
| 1556s | again for a little while |
| 1558s | um |
| 1559s | so yeah I think it's about looking at |
| 1561s | Alternatives rather than Replacements to |
| 1564s | food because there's so much we could do |
| 1566s | with with food as a whole and healing |
| 1568s | mechanics so it's just about making sure |
| 1570s | that |
| 1570s | there's alternative options because it's |
| 1572s | a place we haven't really explored |
| 1574s | before but it's probably worth exploring |
| 1577s | yeah and |
| 1579s | I think on that exploration front I |
| 1580s | think |
| 1582s | I've about you know |
| 1584s | is the sort of food economy something we |
| 1586s | want to look at tweaking and expanding |
| 1588s | on |
| 1590s | um it's something that certainly |
| 1592s | prevalent to me like I spent some time |
| 1594s | looking at the winter damage formula for |
| 1597s | example and |
| 1598s | um I there's no better way to really |
| 1601s | realize like the weird situation we are |
| 1603s | actually in with food than just looking |
| 1605s | at like content that does constant |
| 1607s | damage to you |
| 1610s | like this there's this massive Gulf |
| 1612s | right now between like fish |
| 1615s | and then Brews |
| 1616s | and like |
| 1619s | we kind of we have Anglers Anglers are a |
| 1621s | really cool idea with the over heel |
| 1624s | um |
| 1625s | and I think there's we I think we should |
| 1626s | also be looking at that like the idea of |
| 1628s | more Over Heels perhaps |
| 1630s | um or like things that you can use you |
| 1633s | can almost preemptively heal and then |
| 1635s | take the damage and you still get value |
| 1638s | um I think that's where like you lose |
| 1640s | value of fish is where you like you've |
| 1642s | lost 10 Health there's a boss mechanic |
| 1644s | that could hit you for like Max Health |
| 1646s | you're gonna waste half a shark getting |
| 1649s | up to full to avoid the mechanic |
| 1652s | you know what about something that's |
| 1653s | going to give you 10 Health you take the |
| 1655s | damage then you get to have more Health |
| 1656s | well who knows maybe that's got use |
| 1660s | yeah yeah I will clarify I meant |
| 1662s | anglerfish not monkfish I just always |
| 1664s | see monkfish in my mind from |
| 1667s | the early days of playing this game |
| 1670s | uh right okay uh the next question will |
| 1673s | stick on the hunt meets theme and what |
| 1675s | other effects did you consider for |
| 1676s | Hunter meets |
| 1678s | oh so I've actually I've considered like |
| 1681s | a wide variety of things we could do |
| 1684s | um some positives some actually negative |
| 1686s | as well |
| 1688s | um |
| 1689s | so a lot of it is like balancing that |
| 1691s | like |
| 1692s | do we want a secondary effect |
| 1694s | and do we want it to be at the cost of |
| 1696s | hell like of some of the potential |
| 1698s | healing and like how do we do that and |
| 1700s | how do we give like relevant effects for |
| 1703s | the creatures |
| 1704s | um |
| 1706s | but I mean you know we've had quite a |
| 1709s | few discussions where it's like |
| 1710s | could we have something like that is |
| 1713s | gonna cure one tier of poison and you |
| 1716s | know potentially venom and maybe even |
| 1717s | protect you from Venom for like five or |
| 1719s | ten seconds |
| 1721s | um |
| 1722s | I might look at the potential of like |
| 1725s | what about if your food gave you like a |
| 1728s | 30 second stamina effect because you've |
| 1731s | got it from a creature that is really |
| 1733s | good at running around |
| 1736s | um |
| 1737s | we had some discussion about like |
| 1739s | potential combat stat boosts coming with |
| 1742s | the food like you kind of you eat like I |
| 1745s | don't know like a grock steak |
| 1747s | and you get like plus five attacks that |
| 1749s | doesn't Decay like almost like Divine |
| 1751s | weaker versions of divines but on food |
| 1754s | and they don't last as long or whatever |
| 1755s | like we considered like the whole |
| 1758s | Spectrum the only thing we didn't |
| 1759s | consider was like |
| 1760s | eat this food and get plus four |
| 1762s | construction because |
| 1764s | it doesn't make it anywhere near as much |
| 1766s | sense |
| 1768s | um yes yes we were we're a fantasy game |
| 1771s | Etc but |
| 1772s | I think that's an element of like |
| 1775s | keeping them combat relative was was a |
| 1777s | lot of the focus with the potential |
| 1779s | effects and we've had some really good |
| 1781s | feedback about them and |
| 1783s | I hesitate to say that going forwards |
| 1786s | will love to expand upon them I mean I |
| 1788s | would love to expand upon them |
| 1789s | personally |
| 1791s | um and I think if we get more Hunter |
| 1792s | creatures in like later in Baltimore and |
| 1795s | I think we might get some really |
| 1797s | interesting effects |
| 1799s | I will say two things one I saw a |
| 1802s | comment saying uh sounds like we're |
| 1804s | trying to replace herb law I think it I |
| 1807s | stated it in the blog but these effects |
| 1809s | would never replace something like a |
| 1811s | stamina pot like they would never give |
| 1813s | like the same Big Boost that stamina |
| 1815s | would it would just be uh an extra |
| 1818s | utility on top of you know the uh |
| 1821s | healing properties so |
| 1824s | I don't think it would I don't think |
| 1826s | these effects would ever replace herb |
| 1827s | law |
| 1829s | in anything yeah I think I think it's um |
| 1833s | a misunderstanding I think about the |
| 1835s | value of the herb law boosts like |
| 1839s | anything that is not as good as them |
| 1841s | will not have the same value |
| 1844s | I mean obviously like that statement |
| 1846s | seems really really simple but you know |
| 1849s | getting plus five strength from eating |
| 1851s | food you're still going to want to bring |
| 1853s | a super strength potion |
| 1856s | um perhaps yes a stamina effect kind of |
| 1859s | changes that balance but like you get |
| 1862s | about what eight minutes of stamina from |
| 1864s | having a full stamina potion in your |
| 1866s | inventory and that's one slot if you're |
| 1868s | getting say 20 seconds of stamina effect |
| 1871s | from your food that's 24 inventory slots |
| 1874s | for the same stamina effect |
| 1876s | and I think it's as you say it's about |
| 1880s | like the little things the little |
| 1881s | interactions rather than like the |
| 1883s | grander |
| 1884s | kind of you know you're still going to |
| 1886s | want all of your potions basically no |
| 1888s | matter what like a lot of the design |
| 1891s | discussion was like |
| 1892s | here's what the potion does |
| 1895s | here's what the meat could do and then |
| 1898s | here's what something else in the game |
| 1899s | already does and finding that slot |
| 1901s | between sort of |
| 1903s | the worst option for doing something |
| 1906s | bring it up a little bit comparing it's |
| 1908s | the best option and then sort of finding |
| 1910s | that middle ground |
| 1914s | basically yeah |
| 1916s | for what is worth the The food doesn't |
| 1918s | give you a stamina effect because I saw |
| 1920s | someone in the comment it just restores |
| 1922s | some run energy |
| 1924s | So it's talking about the potentials |
| 1926s | yeah yeah designed it's just fun energy |
| 1931s | yeah and like the other thing I was |
| 1933s | going to say is that we had an internal |
| 1935s | discussion as well because there was a |
| 1937s | which I didn't realize at the time when |
| 1939s | I was uh writing the blog up is that um |
| 1941s | there was discussions or references in |
| 1945s | the Salem blogs about like potentially |
| 1947s | exploring different ways that |
| 1949s | um new fish could utilize healing and |
| 1951s | stuff like that so it doesn't have to be |
| 1954s | just limited to |
| 1956s | um Hunter meets if this is something |
| 1958s | that is good and you guys like then it's |
| 1961s | something we can explore further with |
| 1963s | different things but we don't want to |
| 1965s | just rush into it and and pile on loads |
| 1967s | of effects we need to make sure we're |
| 1968s | taking our time and making sure they're |
| 1970s | uh worthwhile and not replacing anything |
| 1973s | so |
| 1975s | um cool all right uh the next one is uh |
| 1979s | are we wary of invalidating fish by |
| 1982s | adding Hunter Meats which we've sort of |
| 1983s | already |
| 1984s | we've sort of already discussed but I |
| 1987s | will say we were very aware |
| 1989s | um and you know I think we've had a lot |
| 1993s | of opinions from people weighing in like |
| 1995s | in terms of experience with the game in |
| 1998s | terms of like the sort of level which we |
| 2001s | play the game you know we've got some |
| 2003s | absolutely fantastic pvmas on the team |
| 2006s | and pvps and things like that and we |
| 2009s | made sure internally like we took in as |
| 2012s | much |
| 2013s | information from everyone that we could |
| 2016s | fish would still have their place in |
| 2019s | fact like |
| 2021s | the hunter meets like we probably can't |
| 2023s | sit here and be like well you're going |
| 2024s | to want to use them here here and here |
| 2025s | we want to leave things for players to |
| 2028s | work out and like let players sit |
| 2032s | sit set the value |
| 2034s | um some players will sit who knows |
| 2037s | um |
| 2039s | yeah I think fish will be fine you know |
| 2042s | if if we sort of invalidate fish then |
| 2045s | maybe we send them to therapy but |
| 2048s | they'll get over it |
| 2051s | Ah that's not why I envisions come in |
| 2053s | with the sailing skill as a fish Therapy |
| 2055s | Center |
| 2056s | uh but who knows who knows of that skill |
| 2060s | um all right the next one we'll stick on |
| 2062s | uh Hunter meets for one more question |
| 2063s | and then we'll uh we'll move into |
| 2065s | something else |
| 2067s | um |
| 2067s | and the question is a lot of Hunter |
| 2069s | meets aren't worth keeping or cooking |
| 2071s | because they're only mediocre Foods what |
| 2073s | would you think about allowing for |
| 2075s | skewed Beast meats and other such |
| 2078s | cooking Hunter Meats to be used with |
| 2079s | leaves to craft Foresters rations |
| 2083s | so |
| 2085s | and my first reaction to reading that |
| 2088s | question is is effectively the same |
| 2090s | reaction I was given on my first design |
| 2092s | for Hunter's meets it's too much |
| 2095s | um |
| 2096s | I think you are going to have a better |
| 2099s | time with it |
| 2101s | if it is slightly lower healing |
| 2103s | maybe it could do me wrong I love the |
| 2106s | idea of skewers I really wanted to go |
| 2107s | with that |
| 2109s | um |
| 2109s | but it really does get |
| 2112s | I say it gets really sort of picky you |
| 2115s | know you end up having to do so many |
| 2116s | steps when you could just fish for a |
| 2119s | shark or an angler fish or a Karen Bron |
| 2122s | um |
| 2123s | and like the Simplicity I think is key |
| 2126s | um |
| 2128s | um |
| 2129s | I was interacting with like forestry |
| 2131s | leaves |
| 2134s | I considered that sort of interaction |
| 2136s | maybe like you can do like some herb |
| 2138s | interactions with the meats to give them |
| 2140s | that secondary effect |
| 2142s | um but again |
| 2143s | you cross that line I think into |
| 2146s | if it's like a broader thing like we're |
| 2149s | looking at here where like we've got |
| 2150s | nine or ten creatures giving you Meats |
| 2153s | it becomes too much |
| 2154s | if we were looking at |
| 2157s | I think if if this were a cooking |
| 2159s | expansion and we were looking to do |
| 2160s | something really interesting with |
| 2162s | cooking we could then take the hunter |
| 2164s | meats that we introduce and add a new |
| 2167s | way of cooking them you know maybe you |
| 2168s | can make a Meat and Fish skewer maybe |
| 2171s | you combine something with a caramban on |
| 2173s | a skewer and that you can use that to |
| 2175s | eat |
| 2177s | um or not take it |
| 2178s | there's a Ticky thing comely that's the |
| 2181s | word |
| 2182s | um |
| 2183s | so yeah I would say a lot of it was |
| 2186s | considered in the design a lot of it |
| 2189s | felt like too much |
| 2190s | um is is really the answer there |
| 2193s | and we like to keep it simpler it's more |
| 2196s | approachable to players it gives them |
| 2199s | more value for their time as well and |
| 2202s | like respecting that time investment |
| 2205s | and finding the balance there |
| 2207s | yeah I agree I think that process would |
| 2210s | be too convoluted uh for something we're |
| 2213s | trying to introduce on introducing slow |
| 2215s | increments and then see where we can go |
| 2216s | from there but right now I feel like |
| 2218s | it's in a good place where you know you |
| 2220s | unlock father more you get uh the trust |
| 2224s | of the locals and you unlock a new |
| 2225s | cooking method that gives you a |
| 2226s | different flavor of food which is nice |
| 2230s | um all right let's move away from Hunter |
| 2232s | meets uh and talk about pets for a |
| 2235s | little bit |
| 2236s | um with the first question being are you |
| 2238s | concerned about giving the hunter skill |
| 2240s | a third pet when some others only have |
| 2242s | one if any |
| 2244s | am I concerned no |
| 2247s | um I have been tasked with doing a |
| 2250s | hunter Guild my concern for other |
| 2253s | skilled pets right now is zero |
| 2256s | um |
| 2257s | Hunter having three yeah well why not |
| 2260s | Hunter as a full skill as like a you |
| 2263s | hunt all the creatures and maybe get a |
| 2265s | pet you don't actually have one you have |
| 2268s | a chin Shop pet and you have a herbivore |
| 2271s | Pat |
| 2271s | and I think that's where like there's |
| 2274s | sort of I say disconnect between like |
| 2277s | the idea that Hunter has three pets |
| 2279s | there are three pets there would be |
| 2281s | three pets gated behind Hunter as a |
| 2283s | skill uh but this one would actually |
| 2285s | require you to be using a broader |
| 2288s | spectrum of that skill much like other |
| 2289s | skill pets do |
| 2292s | um |
| 2293s | and yeah it's kind of |
| 2297s | a weird one to sort of talk about I |
| 2299s | think because like you look at some of |
| 2300s | the other Skilling pets like I've seen |
| 2302s | people think about like how's the drop |
| 2304s | rate going to be like compared to like |
| 2305s | the Phoenix or something it's like |
| 2307s | the Phoenix isn't it's like half a fire |
| 2310s | making pattern it's half a win's top pet |
| 2312s | and |
| 2313s | I think the true Skilling pets this is |
| 2315s | more in line with you know |
| 2318s | um because again because you're doing |
| 2320s | different things you're not just doing |
| 2322s | the one activity together pattern |
| 2324s | this is obviously with the exception of |
| 2326s | people trying to speedrun getting all of |
| 2328s | the pets who will probably be doing one |
| 2330s | strategy because it's the best drop rate |
| 2331s | you know for their time |
| 2333s | but yeah |
| 2334s | no I'm not really concerned |
| 2338s | okay okay thank you modawa okay talking |
| 2341s | uh About Pets uh someone asks can we get |
| 2344s | pets that we trap around the world we |
| 2347s | can keep and breed at the Hunter's Guild |
| 2350s | oh that would be a really cool idea |
| 2353s | um |
| 2354s | and it's giving me ideas for like future |
| 2357s | games |
| 2359s | um I think that it would be cool to have |
| 2364s | systems where you can |
| 2369s | I'm trying to think of the way to |
| 2370s | condense my thoughts |
| 2372s | um I like systems where you do things |
| 2374s | and the world itself around you changes |
| 2376s | rather than like you do something and |
| 2378s | then you have something new on your |
| 2379s | character |
| 2381s | um so the idea that you can like capture |
| 2384s | creatures and have them sharpen the |
| 2385s | guild like it's kind of got like Monster |
| 2387s | Hunter Vibes where if you trap the |
| 2389s | creature it shows up back up whichever |
| 2391s | base camp you're using it really depends |
| 2393s | on the game that's whether it's a camper |
| 2395s | a dog or whatever |
| 2398s | um I like that idea |
| 2400s | um it's one that I have toyed with in |
| 2402s | the past but hunter stuff and I'm sure |
| 2405s | we'll have a look at it in the future |
| 2408s | I think some of our zoos I see some some |
| 2411s | of ours is the Audi Zoo could do a with |
| 2414s | a really big like refresh |
| 2416s | um so maybe that's a concept we can use |
| 2418s | there |
| 2419s | and just like |
| 2420s | be like hey we've actually put some new |
| 2423s | creatures in the Audi Zoo because we've |
| 2424s | got new creatures from valmore but you |
| 2427s | need to do a quest where you go out and |
| 2428s | capture them you know it can be |
| 2429s | lightweight it can be fun but it can |
| 2432s | follow that idea |
| 2434s | I'm seeing a lot of Pokemon Monster |
| 2436s | Hunter references in the chat as we |
| 2439s | speak I did see someone ask when shiny |
| 2442s | pets would you imagine how destroyed the |
| 2445s | pet in Hunting Community would be if we |
| 2448s | introduced something like that |
| 2450s | I mean like a suite we have the golden |
| 2452s | tin jumper at one in ten thousand but |
| 2455s | yeah I guess the the idea of a shiny pet |
| 2458s | that |
| 2459s | the pet drop is shiny and not like it's |
| 2462s | made shiny through interaction of some |
| 2464s | kind |
| 2465s | oh |
| 2467s | The Collection log would never be |
| 2469s | finished at that rate |
| 2471s | mm-hmm pet Hunters would be going for |
| 2474s | years I think years and years and years |
| 2479s | so yeah I feel like that's just yeah |
| 2482s | that's a |
| 2483s | I love shine don't get me wrong shinies |
| 2485s | are great in Pokemon |
| 2487s | old school pets maybe not so much |
| 2491s | all right uh let's go on to the next |
| 2493s | question is there a way to make existing |
| 2495s | hunter outfits relevant with this update |
| 2502s | that's a that's a bigger question than |
| 2504s | it looks |
| 2506s | yes there is we have some of the old |
| 2510s | script for things like the camo outfits |
| 2513s | um |
| 2514s | contained within that is also things |
| 2516s | like a debuff for being within line of |
| 2518s | sight of the traps now |
| 2520s | I do think that we can look to well |
| 2524s | we'll scrap that we don't want to punish |
| 2525s | players for using camouflage because |
| 2528s | that feels weird |
| 2530s | um |
| 2531s | but it's a very difficult design |
| 2533s | conversation to have um a lot of Hunter |
| 2536s | is on much bigger conversation than I |
| 2539s | think it looks like |
| 2541s | having looked at |
| 2543s | pretty much every part of it lately |
| 2546s | um |
| 2547s | so |
| 2548s | I say the issue with camouflage right |
| 2550s | now is that we have three types of |
| 2552s | camouflage you've got multiple armor |
| 2555s | pieces I mean you're looking at like I |
| 2557s | think it's something like 20 or so |
| 2559s | different Hunter armor pieces that we |
| 2562s | have at the moment |
| 2564s | um and that covers three environments |
| 2568s | um we're looking at volume or um |
| 2572s | you know we're introducing a whole bunch |
| 2574s | of new sort of actual environments that |
| 2577s | we don't really have on this kind of |
| 2580s | scale in the rest of the world |
| 2583s | um and you know people are gonna think |
| 2585s | why is my polar hunting stuff useful |
| 2590s | when actually there's no snow here but |
| 2592s | it's cold and Rocky but it's not snowing |
| 2594s | you know why is my sort of jungle stuff |
| 2597s | working somewhere that's not really a |
| 2599s | jungle but it's kind of close |
| 2602s | um so we end up in this situation of |
| 2604s | like we can bring camo back I'm |
| 2607s | pretty certain we can bring camo back |
| 2610s | um |
| 2612s | but we need to have a very long |
| 2613s | discussion about how we handle |
| 2616s | environments with that because |
| 2619s | personally it's it's bloat to add a camo |
| 2624s | outfit for every separate environment as |
| 2626s | cool as it is thematically how many |
| 2628s | people are going to keep you know |
| 2631s | 30 armor pieces somewhere to go and hunt |
| 2635s | in like a different area at some point |
| 2639s | um |
| 2640s | so I I do think there's actually quite a |
| 2642s | large design discussion to be had there |
| 2643s | and it sounds really small like camo yes |
| 2646s | or camo no |
| 2648s | um but it's we could do camo but there |
| 2651s | are so many it's it's like cascading |
| 2653s | considerations |
| 2656s | um and then you have to factor in that |
| 2658s | like increasing catch rate will increase |
| 2660s | experience rates which means that we |
| 2662s | have to have |
| 2663s | a discussion about how we impact |
| 2666s | experience rates the hunter uh because |
| 2669s | obviously if you're catching more you're |
| 2670s | getting more XP from the success of |
| 2672s | perhaps and obviously this |
| 2675s | Fades away for a lot of creatures where |
| 2676s | you hit like a hundred percent catch |
| 2678s | chance on on |
| 2679s | sort of a script side |
| 2682s | um |
| 2683s | but again and then that becomes an |
| 2684s | interesting one because you get the |
| 2686s | question of like why is someone a lower |
| 2688s | level getting more benefit out of this |
| 2690s | outfit than someone who's a higher level |
| 2693s | um |
| 2693s | yeah it's it's It Feels So innocuous |
| 2699s | maybe that's the wrong one it feels very |
| 2701s | innocent to ask the question can we |
| 2704s | bring back camo outfits and you know the |
| 2707s | the answer is we can |
| 2709s | um |
| 2710s | and I think the question becomes how do |
| 2714s | we or how should we |
| 2716s | um |
| 2718s | and I think this is this is a discussion |
| 2719s | that like I'm angling to have with the |
| 2721s | team internally |
| 2724s | um fairly soon |
| 2726s | um we're we're taught we are looking |
| 2729s | um we're looking at |
| 2732s | potentially like making a lot of the |
| 2734s | really bad feeling Hunter stuff like |
| 2737s | make it feel a bit better with like a |
| 2739s | little kick of experience and things |
| 2741s | like that |
| 2742s | um |
| 2744s | so yeah I think that's that's that's how |
| 2746s | we talk about making the existing |
| 2747s | outfits relevant |
| 2750s | yeah we I mean me and whatever were |
| 2752s | chatting maybe it was yesterday or the |
| 2754s | day before uh amongst all the hunter |
| 2757s | Guild feedback uh about the game Jam |
| 2760s | project where it could be uh which I I |
| 2763s | think I put for the giant chameleon that |
| 2766s | you have to escapes the hunter Guild and |
| 2768s | you have to run out and hunt it down in |
| 2770s | the different areas and it Blends in and |
| 2772s | adapts and you have to use the camo to |
| 2773s | your advantage |
| 2775s | um but that I will say as cool as that |
| 2778s | may sound that is like outside the scope |
| 2781s | of the project maybe a good game Jam |
| 2783s | pitch |
| 2784s | um |
| 2786s | for somewhere down the line but yeah not |
| 2788s | something that we're going to be able to |
| 2789s | do with with the hunter Guild right now |
| 2791s | just just so expectations are met |
| 2796s | yeah game Jam's a dangerous concept for |
| 2798s | Hunter yeah the deeper you dig the more |
| 2800s | you find and |
| 2801s | it's not pretty it is not pretty |
| 2806s | my when when the idea got brought up my |
| 2808s | all the cogs in my head would turn in so |
| 2810s | rapidly about like the different things |
| 2813s | it could do to mess you up and like |
| 2815s | putting down slippery surfaces to trip |
| 2817s | you up and even if your hunting as a |
| 2819s | group maybe swallowing one of them whole |
| 2821s | and you have to chase after it and break |
| 2823s | that player out |
| 2825s | um |
| 2826s | so yeah we'll see maybe maybe in this |
| 2830s | game down next game Jam who knows well |
| 2832s | maybe we'll have some talks |
| 2833s | and find some time |
| 2835s | yeah |
| 2837s | uh all right let's go on to the next one |
| 2839s | which is can we please craft the hunter |
| 2841s | outfits ourselves instead of paying to |
| 2844s | have someone else do it for us |
| 2846s | I'm working on it |
| 2849s | not something that's come up in |
| 2851s | conversations because it to me it feels |
| 2852s | like such a given that I I just don't |
| 2854s | talk about it |
| 2856s | um very much |
| 2857s | uh the intention is to make all anything |
| 2861s | that someone else can make for you with |
| 2863s | Hunter you're gonna have a way to make |
| 2865s | yourself |
| 2866s | um |
| 2866s | because it at this point like the things |
| 2869s | that the player is capable of making far |
| 2872s | far exceed |
| 2874s | putting some hides together |
| 2877s | um so there's no reason not to really |
| 2879s | give players a way to make things for |
| 2881s | themselves |
| 2882s | um |
| 2883s | so that's kind of the intended that's |
| 2885s | that is that is the design that's like |
| 2887s | the starting point is players are |
| 2889s | crafting for themselves yeah |
| 2894s | whatever I'll just answer the next one |
| 2897s | just because it's a quick and easy one |
| 2899s | uh could the hunter cape have a Teleport |
| 2901s | to the guild like several other skill |
| 2903s | capes do uh yes uh we already talked |
| 2906s | about that it's in the feedback section |
| 2908s | of the uh feedback blog uh you'll need |
| 2911s | to just use a blueprint on the cape and |
| 2913s | then you'll unlock that that's the |
| 2914s | current premise |
| 2917s | right next question then is can we get |
| 2920s | deposit boxes near some hunting areas at |
| 2922s | the cost of GP hunting materials or |
| 2925s | one-time payment for access to a deposit |
| 2927s | box |
| 2933s | considered it it come up |
| 2936s | like this this whole design is like |
| 2939s | can we start making these incremental |
| 2941s | quality of life changes to answer |
| 2944s | I think what gets me with the idea is |
| 2947s | like |
| 2948s | how I think is the um |
| 2951s | the the kind of question that I have |
| 2953s | about this idea is like |
| 2956s | is there just going to be a deposit box |
| 2958s | by each hunting spot is that almost too |
| 2963s | much convenience because the that kind |
| 2966s | of falls into the same vein as like why |
| 2968s | don't we put a deposit box next to every |
| 2971s | mining patch I mean yes a lot of them |
| 2973s | have very convenient ones you know |
| 2975s | Shiloh Village gem mine has one or |
| 2978s | mining Guild if you need to bangle your |
| 2980s | iron |
| 2982s | um but |
| 2983s | I think it falls into that like we go |
| 2986s | away from like quality of life with |
| 2988s | something like that to |
| 2990s | it really does become this element of |
| 2993s | like |
| 2994s | undermining part of skill and part of |
| 2997s | the skill is that travel to a new area |
| 3000s | it's that feeling like you're in the |
| 3002s | wilderness because like some of them |
| 3003s | some of the areas do feel like you're in |
| 3006s | the wilderness and not the PVP |
| 3008s | Wilderness uh the Wilderness like in the |
| 3011s | real world I must clarify |
| 3013s | uh I do not feel at risk in the polar |
| 3016s | Hunter area like I do in the worldly |
| 3019s | um but yeah I think I think it is |
| 3023s | it's sort of antithetical to the skill |
| 3026s | to introduce deposit boxes of some kind |
| 3032s | we can look at systems for that later on |
| 3035s | I think if if it really is such a |
| 3037s | problem |
| 3039s | um I feel like we'll be |
| 3041s | approaching that we're already making |
| 3043s | like steps with with a meat pouch with a |
| 3045s | fur pouch and |
| 3047s | there's like |
| 3050s | I think it's the difficulty is it's like |
| 3052s | everyone just drops that stuff now |
| 3053s | because it hasn't got any value so it's |
| 3056s | not worth banking |
| 3058s | um |
| 3061s | and so I think it remains to be seen |
| 3064s | like if we end up in a position where |
| 3066s | like the hunter outputs are all so great |
| 3069s | that everyone wants to be banking them I |
| 3072s | think then we take a step back and we |
| 3073s | say okay can we add some thematic and |
| 3076s | appropriate tweaks here so that's a less |
| 3080s | disruptive |
| 3081s | activity |
| 3086s | yeah exactly |
| 3088s | um yeah I think yeah but like what other |
| 3091s | said the um the pouches do that I think |
| 3095s | and they do that pretty well so use the |
| 3098s | pouches use the pouches that'll be great |
| 3101s | um right I'm gonna move this up because |
| 3102s | I have realized in putting together the |
| 3105s | blog I think I missed something that we |
| 3107s | discuss and feedback |
| 3110s | um so I'll go into this question and |
| 3112s | then whatever you can answer it uh will |
| 3114s | the Trap storage include butterfly jars |
| 3117s | butterfly jars are used for Hunter so |
| 3120s | it'd be weird to include implying jars |
| 3121s | and Butterfly Nets but not butterfly |
| 3123s | jars |
| 3124s | and yeah we can put butterfly gels into |
| 3127s | the uh into the Trap storage or however |
| 3130s | we choose to do a trap storage |
| 3133s | um hopefully with a bit bear hunting we |
| 3136s | can you maybe might not need them |
| 3139s | um |
| 3140s | I think that like the current position |
| 3143s | for butterflies like whether or not we |
| 3145s | we buff them I say bath like tweak them |
| 3148s | uh as laid out in the blog like they |
| 3151s | actually are really interesting like |
| 3153s | additional XP while you hunt something |
| 3155s | else a lot of them are around where |
| 3159s | you're hunting like you they're Around |
| 3160s | The Deadfall traps they're around the |
| 3162s | pitfall traps |
| 3164s | um so like either having like the |
| 3166s | ability to get your like carry some |
| 3168s | butterfly jars with you so you can grab |
| 3169s | them as you go or allowing you to not |
| 3172s | need them again grab them as you go uh |
| 3175s | you can engage yourself a bit more by |
| 3178s | you know going and grabbing them you get |
| 3179s | a bit more XP like |
| 3182s | um I think uh yeah making encouraging |
| 3186s | people to hunt butterflies is |
| 3189s | anything we can do there really |
| 3194s | yeah yeah and on that note uh the thing |
| 3197s | that we discussed that I didn't include |
| 3199s | is that we want to pull the idea of |
| 3202s | giving you an option to catch I think it |
| 3206s | was implings |
| 3207s | without the inkling jar if I'm right oh |
| 3210s | yes yeah what what was it you can catch |
| 3214s | it in playing their handed |
| 3216s | catch an implant with a net and a jar |
| 3218s | you can't catch an impling with a net |
| 3221s | and then with your bare hands hold on to |
| 3224s | it and get it loot |
| 3227s | um yeah |
| 3228s | yeah so that's definitely one catch with |
| 3231s | a net and just |
| 3233s | that's quality of life you know somewhat |
| 3236s | skipping that release step if you know |
| 3239s | if you want to keep them bring jars easy |
| 3241s | peasy |
| 3242s | um if you have no interest in keeping |
| 3243s | them you're just catching them |
| 3245s | yeah I feel like it's way more difficult |
| 3247s | catching them in the net and then trying |
| 3249s | to put them in a jar and then as a mod |
| 3252s | Goblin put it negotiating with them |
| 3254s | afterwards whereas if you've got them in |
| 3256s | the net already you're already at the |
| 3257s | negotiating stage you don't you don't |
| 3259s | need to include a jar |
| 3261s | um so yeah we want to give you the |
| 3264s | option this is not to say that replacing |
| 3266s | will get removing the implant jar method |
| 3269s | but we want to at least hold the option |
| 3271s | to allow you to do it without them |
| 3275s | so yeah all right uh here we go let's |
| 3279s | talk Eagles next uh could we use Eagles |
| 3282s | carry out small jobs for us for example |
| 3284s | you could send your equal off to the |
| 3285s | bank with a pouch of things to deposit |
| 3287s | we'll talk about |
| 3289s | basically Hunter servants is that what |
| 3292s | we're talking about it smells like |
| 3293s | taming to me |
| 3296s | last I heard we didn't vote for that |
| 3300s | not my skill but uh I think that would |
| 3303s | be an interesting one I think |
| 3305s | that kind of ties into having deposit |
| 3308s | boxes in Hunter areas |
| 3310s | um |
| 3311s | it would be kind of cool |
| 3314s | it would also need like so many |
| 3317s | balancing ideas and like it would just |
| 3320s | be |
| 3322s | it would be complicated |
| 3324s | just on the idea of like okay where do |
| 3327s | you have this Eagle is it yours is it |
| 3330s | just around if it's just around why does |
| 3333s | it work for you if it's yours like is it |
| 3335s | following you like a pet like |
| 3338s | um |
| 3339s | I think yeah it's just that's a really |
| 3341s | cool idea but there are like so many |
| 3344s | considerations as to like how that would |
| 3346s | actually work in practice |
| 3349s | um but perhaps teleporting to a bank and |
| 3351s | getting back to the hunter areas just a |
| 3353s | quicker option |
| 3359s | yeah |
| 3360s | honestly I don't want this I don't want |
| 3363s | this is the cool concept but you know it |
| 3367s | feels too a bit too bit too easy and |
| 3369s | like whatever said the amount of |
| 3371s | balancing you'd have to do around it is |
| 3372s | insane |
| 3374s | so |
| 3376s | um okay we're going to do three more |
| 3377s | questions and then we'll we'll wrap up |
| 3379s | the stream |
| 3380s | um first off why would bear handing |
| 3383s | bare-handed catching moths be useful |
| 3385s | since we'd still need jars it's not like |
| 3387s | the implings where you might randomly |
| 3389s | come across one without gear |
| 3391s | so |
| 3395s | what's the best way to break this down |
| 3397s | if you bear |
| 3399s | with a jar |
| 3400s | I mean yeah fine you've grabbed them |
| 3402s | without a jar maybe you're carrying like |
| 3404s | a crystal Grail while you run around |
| 3406s | catching them for some entertainment |
| 3409s | um or you've got a leaks trophy you want |
| 3411s | to flex while you hunt |
| 3413s | if you are bear hunting them without a |
| 3414s | jarvo unlike use them to like |
| 3417s | immediately buff yourself that's got |
| 3419s | some really cool implications for |
| 3421s | Content like |
| 3422s | you imagine doing like some dungeon |
| 3424s | themed content where you can if you have |
| 3427s | the right Hunter level you can catch |
| 3429s | these moths and get like a little hit of |
| 3431s | prayer or a little hit of hit points |
| 3433s | like a quick little heel as you run |
| 3436s | um like some of the placements I'm |
| 3438s | looking at for these moths like moths |
| 3441s | like |
| 3442s | light they're kind of urbany |
| 3445s | um so they're going to be kind of close |
| 3446s | to things you're doing and like why use |
| 3449s | like an extra shark to make sure you're |
| 3451s | at full health when you could actually |
| 3453s | just bare hand grab a moth on your way |
| 3455s | through to the content or like between |
| 3457s | content |
| 3459s | [Music] |
| 3459s | um |
| 3461s | yeah |
| 3462s | I I think just like it has use to the |
| 3466s | individual with their handing and at |
| 3468s | least if you don't have jars on you |
| 3473s | awesome awesome thank you mother on that |
| 3475s | note |
| 3477s | do moth jars require accept a to be on |
| 3481s | we've not actually discussed this |
| 3484s | um |
| 3485s | I would have to look at what would be |
| 3486s | consistent with the rest of the game |
| 3489s | um |
| 3490s | my guess is that it would end up being |
| 3492s | yes |
| 3494s | um |
| 3495s | but that's how she don't I I'm trying to |
| 3499s | think if there's any way you could be |
| 3500s | you could grish with them I mean I guess |
| 3502s | if someone's using darox |
| 3505s | you could somewhat troll them by healing |
| 3508s | them up against their will |
| 3510s | um |
| 3513s | yeah that that's one I'd have to come |
| 3515s | back to the likelihood is you would |
| 3518s | oh yeah I don't actually know what would |
| 3520s | be because basically I don't know what |
| 3521s | would be consistent |
| 3523s | um |
| 3525s | and I'd be to look into it |
| 3528s | okay well you could you guys can let us |
| 3529s | know if you want except they don't know |
| 3532s | or off who would be interesting I |
| 3534s | suppose on that note whatever we should |
| 3536s | maybe quickly touch upon would ions |
| 3538s | benefit from somebody else's |
| 3542s | uh moth slash butterfly |
| 3546s | we're ions We Stand Alone |
| 3549s | um it's about that's about like |
| 3554s | it does there's not really |
| 3557s | um |
| 3558s | yeah there's not really like um |
| 3560s | an easy way to be like |
| 3562s | I am well okay there's an easy way to be |
| 3565s | ions affect other ions but |
| 3569s | I won't use I won't specifically use the |
| 3571s | Integrity word because I don't think |
| 3573s | it's an Integrity issue |
| 3576s | um |
| 3577s | but |
| 3579s | I don't think that there's like a huge |
| 3582s | gain to making this change where it's |
| 3584s | like oh actually irons are included in |
| 3586s | all of this where all the time they |
| 3589s | aren't by default so |
| 3592s | it may come down to discussion |
| 3594s | um |
| 3595s | and like finding out what you think is |
| 3598s | best as a team |
| 3601s | yeah yeah I think that's very fair |
| 3604s | okay I might have lied we're gonna do |
| 3606s | another question after this one but that |
| 3609s | is it |
| 3610s | you're not gonna sell for that much |
| 3612s | longer but okay so the first one is can |
| 3615s | we get even more uses of Furs it's nice |
| 3618s | that the outfits will have some use now |
| 3620s | and that the Furs can also make pouches |
| 3622s | these pouches let us hold more first I |
| 3625s | feel like we need something else on top |
| 3626s | for them why do I need to make a fair |
| 3628s | pouch why will I need tons of furs |
| 3632s | so |
| 3633s | it's yeah it's a it's a fair question |
| 3637s | um I think we can definitely add more |
| 3639s | uses for Furs if like that becomes a if |
| 3641s | that's a really dominant feedback Point |
| 3642s | like people really want us doing more |
| 3644s | with Furs other than making a new armor |
| 3647s | set |
| 3648s | potentially as a use for crafting your |
| 3652s | own camo I mean obviously like you can |
| 3654s | take them to people to make a camo but |
| 3656s | we've gone over this |
| 3658s | um |
| 3659s | and making pouches but like I don't |
| 3662s | think everything necessarily needs like |
| 3664s | 101 uses like would you actually use a |
| 3668s | dragon hide for you tan it and then you |
| 3671s | turn it into for the most part armor |
| 3674s | that you're either out or you sell |
| 3677s | um so really what are you getting out of |
| 3679s | dragon Heights you're getting crafting |
| 3680s | XP and a bit of gold |
| 3682s | and I think honestly we can at least to |
| 3684s | start with we can look to put Furs in |
| 3687s | that same position you're Gathering them |
| 3689s | because they're worth |
| 3691s | they'll be worth you know x amount of |
| 3693s | gold in crafting XP |
| 3696s | um or potentially just you know a decent |
| 3699s | amount of gold once you've crafted and |
| 3700s | out and |
| 3702s | um I think with the pouches as well like |
| 3704s | having this sort of multi-tiered system |
| 3708s | um |
| 3709s | for me I really like the idea that it |
| 3711s | gives value to the lower ones inherently |
| 3714s | like |
| 3715s | you can obviously you can sit at the |
| 3717s | ground exchange by all of the tier 2 |
| 3719s | pouches and all of the Furs you need to |
| 3721s | craft them into tier three and that |
| 3723s | would be like really you know it would |
| 3725s | be great crafting XP depending on how we |
| 3727s | balance it |
| 3729s | um |
| 3730s | but what that also gives is it gives |
| 3732s | value to the people in the position |
| 3733s | where they can't craft the top tier |
| 3735s | pouch they could craft the middle tier |
| 3737s | pouch and then the same again happens |
| 3739s | for the people at the bottom |
| 3742s | um so you kind of lift everyone up |
| 3745s | with this sort of with the way the furs |
| 3748s | are at the moment which I think is |
| 3749s | really cool |
| 3751s | um you know you're rewarded |
| 3753s | for taking the time to craft even if |
| 3755s | you've got like 50 crafting then you'll |
| 3757s | get to 60 and whatever you'll unlock the |
| 3759s | next tier and all that |
| 3761s | um yeah you will need tons of furs |
| 3765s | if you want crafting XP it's the current |
| 3767s | position |
| 3769s | um and maybe you want to make a whole |
| 3770s | bunch of armor and just go like Risk to |
| 3773s | learn content with armor that you don't |
| 3774s | care about getting that |
| 3779s | cool awesome thank you mod over all |
| 3782s | right last question then |
| 3784s | which I think modhava asked if we were |
| 3786s | covering |
| 3787s | uh what would you think of adding a |
| 3790s | hunting style boss encounter |
| 3793s | oh yeah I mean you know |
| 3797s | ready |
| 3800s | I mean literally in my interview for |
| 3803s | this role I brought up hunting like a |
| 3806s | hunting star boss encounter |
| 3808s | um it is something that I have so many |
| 3812s | ideas for |
| 3813s | and I really am just like waiting for |
| 3816s | the right time you know |
| 3818s | um |
| 3819s | that's what I think of it I I think that |
| 3821s | if I was given the go ahead then I could |
| 3824s | produce just like that I've got a design |
| 3828s | um |
| 3829s | and I think it would be really healthy |
| 3831s | for the skill actually |
| 3832s | um |
| 3833s | I think Hunter |
| 3835s | what Hunter lacks really is a challenge |
| 3837s | curve and |
| 3839s | it's |
| 3840s | it's a gathering skill not every |
| 3842s | Gathering skill needs like a challenge |
| 3844s | curve but like Hunter sits in this weird |
| 3846s | spot where it's like you could fuse it |
| 3849s | with ideas of combat and give it this |
| 3851s | really satisfying |
| 3854s | reward for having a higher level |
| 3858s | um |
| 3858s | and that is really that is something I |
| 3860s | want to look at like we have a gathering |
| 3862s | skill that doesn't have |
| 3864s | a production skill paired with it |
| 3866s | and |
| 3869s | we should turn it from a gathering skill |
| 3871s | into like a really cool like hybridized |
| 3874s | skill that kind of sits like in its own |
| 3876s | category |
| 3878s | um but yeah just crossing counters |
| 3881s | fantastic they offer us so much leeway |
| 3884s | as well for making things that appeal to |
| 3886s | so many different people |
| 3888s | um and I really hope that going forwards |
| 3891s | you know I can find the time to do that |
| 3893s | whether that's like across game jams |
| 3895s | things like that like |
| 3897s | I'm fairly committed to at least getting |
| 3899s | designs in front of the team |
| 3903s | um yeah that's that's why I wanted that |
| 3905s | one like it's it's actually that's very |
| 3907s | personal to me is the idea of a hunting |
| 3909s | boss encounter |
| 3911s | um |
| 3913s | yeah yeah very committed |
| 3915s | I mean yeah if we get a chance to work |
| 3917s | on the chameleon idea we put across |
| 3919s | earlier then I am all for it |
| 3922s | oh yeah hell yeah all right uh with that |
| 3927s | let's go for the announcements and then |
| 3929s | we will wrap up and say goodbye so |
| 3931s | exclamation mark uh game update the path |
| 3934s | of Guthrie is now live this week's game |
| 3936s | update brings the newest quest for the |
| 3938s | gnome storyline and more so check that |
| 3941s | out with that command and along with |
| 3943s | that we partnered with our dear friend |
| 3945s | who each create this amazing trailer for |
| 3947s | The Quest so check it out of exclamation |
| 3949s | mark trailer it absolutely slaps who T |
| 3952s | always knocks it out of the park uh |
| 3954s | exclamation mark dead man the end is |
| 3956s | night dead man apocalypse comes to its |
| 3958s | epic conclusion live on Twitch this |
| 3960s | Saturday do not miss out tune in and uh |
| 3965s | enjoy the Carnage because it's gonna be |
| 3967s | great so you can check out all the |
| 3969s | details on the blog we released today |
| 3970s | through that and finally uh to wrap up |
| 3973s | everything we've talked about today |
| 3975s | exclamation mark Hunter to check out the |
| 3977s | original blog and the updated feedback |
| 3979s | blog with all of today's |
| 3982s | um |
| 3983s | feedback changes that are included in |
| 3985s | there and just to note |
| 3988s | check out the game update news post if |
| 3990s | you want to access the information about |
| 3993s | the game update fixes uh that we'll put |
| 3996s | in I read out at the start which |
| 3998s | includes information about shooting |
| 3999s | stars the poison way Spirit tree being |
| 4002s | moved and decentrizing griefing in |
| 4005s | Guardians of the rift |
| 4007s | um yeah well I will say thank you all so |
| 4010s | much for tuning in |
| 4011s | it's been a pleasure finally getting to |
| 4013s | talk about Baltimore for the first time |
| 4015s | you will see plenty Bala more |
| 4019s | coming soon |
| 4024s | I have mod spear putting his head in his |
| 4026s | hands next to me which is making it |
| 4028s | making me feel very very happy |
| 4033s | um so with that said mod other any other |
| 4035s | words before we uh apart from the Stream |
| 4042s | giving us feedback that's usable |
| 4045s | um we shan't publicize some of the |
| 4047s | incredibly funny but useless feedback we |
| 4050s | got |
| 4051s | um except shout out to the one person |
| 4053s | who responded to the survey saying |
| 4054s | something like don't do this I don't |
| 4056s | like Hunter uh congratulations sir uh on |
| 4060s | not liking Hunter hopefully this makes |
| 4063s | you like Hunter |
| 4064s | um |
| 4065s | and yeah um I know we didn't get around |
| 4067s | to discussing birdhouses but uh Over My |
| 4070s | Dead Body will I discuss birdhouses |
| 4075s | okay thank you very much I think people |
| 4078s | have had a uh hopefully they've had a |
| 4080s | good time they've had a good time and |
| 4081s | learned some new things and we've |
| 4082s | answered some questions so uh yeah with |
| 4085s | that being said I hope you all have a |
| 4088s | wonderful uh evening morning night |
| 4090s | wherever you are and you enjoy your |
| 4094s | weekend uh whatever it's full of so |
| 4097s | until then we shall see you soon and |
| 4099s | have a lovely day |
| 4101s | goodbye |
| 4102s | foreign |
| 4104s | [Music] |
