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| 5s | hello and welcome everybody |
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| 8s | do you like mobile phones do you own a |
| 11s | mobile phone |
| 13s | do you play osrs on mobile well if you |
| 16s | answered yes to any of those questions |
| 18s | you are in for a treat today |
| 20s | we are joined by the very people who are |
| 23s | working so hard on some of our new |
| 26s | client features and we're also looking |
| 28s | to bring them through to mobile i'm your |
| 31s | host modlite and joining me today are |
| 32s | the wonderful mods lenny nin and ty |
| 35s | welcome everyone how are you all doing |
| 37s | today hi let's go to you first |
| 40s | oh i'm doing i'm doing pretty good |
| 42s | pretty good working on some new features |
| 44s | having a good day having having a laugh |
| 46s | how are you doing |
| 48s | i'm good i love the new hair tied |
| 50s | rocking it for the summer |
| 52s | hell yes uh ninh how are you doing |
| 56s | yeah i'm doing good uh i was struggling |
| 58s | to find a place to sit down and do this |
| 59s | stream in the office because it's a bit |
| 61s | scuffed to do it in the streaming room |
| 63s | with like two people i found this chair |
| 65s | and it's really bouncy like it was way |
| 67s | so i'm having a great time |
| 70s | you're bringing the energy today hell |
| 72s | yes nin lenny how are you doing i see |
| 74s | you stole the studio |
| 76s | yeah i'm doing good i've beaten into the |
| 78s | chase here to get down into the |
| 80s | livestream studio it's been doing good |
| 82s | but just a very tiring couple of weeks |
| 84s | all for good reasons but |
| 86s | you know |
| 87s | kind of taking us home |
| 89s | absolutely well we're so pleased to have |
| 91s | you |
| 92s | nice mod sphere cameo |
| 95s | awesome um right so today's live stream |
| 97s | we're going to be talking about some of |
| 98s | the mobile ui changes that we made a |
| 100s | blog about just uh the other week |
| 103s | first we'll go through some quick |
| 104s | announcements so exclamation mark game |
| 106s | update will tell you all about uh |
| 108s | today's game update so it was all about |
| 111s | group iron man we've added unranked |
| 113s | group iron man you can team up casually |
| 115s | with your pals we also have our very |
| 117s | first group boss bash so you can have a |
| 120s | chance of winning |
| 121s | a lot of membership there if you want to |
| 123s | take on those losses |
| 125s | and we also have exclamation mark rs |
| 127s | kingdoms you can find out |
| 129s | a lot more about our new board game our |
| 131s | friends at steamforged have brought |
| 134s | illinois to tabletop and get all the |
| 136s | latest information with that command |
| 139s | right so first of all |
| 141s | those of you who haven't read the blog |
| 143s | because we know some of you out there |
| 144s | don't read our blogs |
| 146s | we're gonna just talk quickly about some |
| 148s | of the changes um we'll go through some |
| 150s | images to start off with so if we can |
| 152s | show those now |
| 156s | first image is the existing ui um so |
| 158s | this is what you guys are all used to |
| 160s | what you know and love |
| 162s | um |
| 163s | and then going into some of the images |
| 165s | from the blog you can see an updated |
| 167s | version of the ui um with some of the |
| 168s | changes that we'd like to make so |
| 170s | just flicking through those um you can |
| 172s | see a bunch of different things which we |
| 174s | will get into today and discuss |
| 177s | um there is like a condensed mini map a |
| 179s | pop-out menu |
| 181s | loads of different things |
| 183s | um and mod nin i believe is gonna |
| 186s | discuss and summarize some of the |
| 188s | changes so take it away modnin |
| 191s | yeah so just for like a bit of context |
| 193s | here um the three of us have been |
| 196s | working on the what you guys know as a |
| 198s | steam client |
| 199s | which |
| 200s | uh is |
| 201s | basically we're taking a bunch of new |
| 203s | features |
| 204s | into the runescape client um |
| 207s | and recently we have done an open beta |
| 210s | for |
| 211s | android and a closed beat for ios i |
| 214s | believe |
| 214s | so take that same client that we've made |
| 217s | for pc and put onto the mobile as well |
| 220s | and |
| 222s | we need to make some space to fit some |
| 224s | of the new features in so like the |
| 227s | current ui that you have on mobile it's |
| 229s | a bit cramped |
| 231s | there's no room for us to kind of add |
| 233s | some new things to it |
| 235s | so |
| 236s | we thought okay now is the time we can |
| 238s | we can make some adjustments we can make |
| 240s | some improvements while we're at it um |
| 242s | nothing absolutely massive but |
| 245s | still some some pretty good changes and |
| 247s | that will give us some like room to add |
| 249s | some new features so if we go to like |
| 251s | the first image that you've got there |
| 254s | um |
| 255s | and yeah i'll go from like |
| 258s | i'll go around in a circle so |
| 260s | top left uh we've rearranged the chat a |
| 263s | little bit um you usually have the |
| 265s | stones across the top of the chat um we |
| 268s | thought they look kind of ugly you end |
| 270s | up having the report button which is |
| 272s | like a bright red button right in the |
| 273s | top middle of your screen which is kind |
| 275s | of weird so we thought okay let's move |
| 277s | that all over to the side kind of keep |
| 279s | it nice and uniform |
| 281s | on this it's a scrollable list but we've |
| 282s | been discussing some changes to that as |
| 284s | well |
| 285s | um |
| 286s | then in the top right you've got the |
| 288s | minimap you can currently minimize the |
| 290s | minimap in |
| 291s | current mobile ui but |
| 294s | it's in this weird kind of layout where |
| 296s | you have like your hit points and your |
| 298s | special attack like across the top and |
| 300s | then your prayer and your run down the |
| 301s | side it's kind of weird so we thought |
| 303s | okay let's let's just kind of rearrange |
| 305s | that that'll be |
| 306s | easy enough to do um to have now you |
| 309s | have the globes in kind of the right |
| 310s | order that they are when you usually |
| 312s | have the mini-map open and it all kind |
| 313s | of looks like a bit neater |
| 315s | uh below that you'll see the side panel |
| 319s | has been |
| 320s | all moved to the right-hand side so you |
| 322s | no longer have like a split where half |
| 324s | of the panels are on the left and half |
| 326s | of the panels on on the right you now |
| 327s | have they're all on the |
| 329s | right and the button right at the bottom |
| 331s | is a new one that kind of |
| 333s | expands |
| 334s | out to show some more like the the |
| 336s | hidden stones um the idea behind this is |
| 340s | the the first |
| 342s | column that you see that's like |
| 343s | immediate gameplay things so backpack |
| 345s | one items |
| 346s | um prayer spells all that stuff that |
| 349s | you'll need in like moment to moment |
| 350s | gameplay and everything behind it are |
| 352s | things that you don't necessarily need |
| 354s | to see in moment-to-moment |
| 365s | the gameplay the most like |
| 367s | strange looking thing is this controls |
| 370s | uh |
| 371s | like kind of quick settings panels so |
| 373s | this has |
| 374s | this is where tap to drop is you know |
| 376s | you used to have on if you we go back to |
| 378s | the old layout |
| 379s | uh you have this tiny tiny button |
| 382s | right above |
| 383s | the left hand like stones this teeny |
| 385s | teeny tiny button it's like smaller than |
| 387s | your like little fingernail |
| 389s | um |
| 390s | which you can assign to tap to drop or |
| 392s | open the keyboard or single tap mode uh |
| 395s | we've we've said okay that's too small |
| 397s | and kind of rubbish to use so let's make |
| 399s | it like a proper thing |
| 401s | um so this has a few things on it it's |
| 403s | got a button that lets you turn on and |
| 405s | off walking it's got a button that lets |
| 407s | you turn on and off interacting with |
| 409s | things it's got a button that lets you |
| 411s | turn on and off the ability to |
| 414s | highlight tiles on the ground and the |
| 416s | last one is is tap to drop |
| 419s | and then we also have some space now for |
| 422s | uh the pop out panel which is the |
| 425s | video i think |
| 426s | um |
| 428s | and this is |
| 430s | it's a panel that currently has the xp |
| 432s | tracker in it that modzuker made for us |
| 435s | and in the future we're going to be |
| 436s | adding some more things to that as well |
| 438s | uh and so and there's a lot of room |
| 440s | there for us to kind of add |
| 442s | new features and new kind of helpful |
| 443s | things in there |
| 444s | so yeah that's like an overview of the |
| 446s | whole thing |
| 448s | that is such a useful summary especially |
| 450s | for someone like me who does prefer to |
| 452s | see and hear it |
| 454s | and just hear you talking about it in |
| 456s | action so really appreciate that summary |
| 459s | um lenny and ty just what do you think |
| 462s | about the changes how what's your kind |
| 464s | of thoughts on it |
| 465s | how do you think it will improve the |
| 467s | player experience |
| 468s | yeah i think |
| 470s | i i've |
| 471s | i have long had a few issues with the |
| 473s | mobile ui um |
| 475s | and sort of as soon as we started coming |
| 477s | to look at the features we wanted to add |
| 479s | to it it became quickly apparent this is |
| 481s | the time that we need to start changing |
| 482s | it |
| 483s | and |
| 484s | quite a few months back now modern inn |
| 486s | came to me with some sort of like very |
| 488s | rough mock-ups of some of these changes |
| 489s | and started talking about them with me |
| 491s | he started roughly prototyping a few |
| 493s | things and i very quickly like got |
| 494s | behind was like okay cool yeah we've got |
| 496s | some really solid changes here obviously |
| 498s | there's a few issues that we might need |
| 499s | to iron out with it but i think it's a |
| 501s | really promising kind of change and a |
| 502s | step in the right direction |
| 504s | um and definitely the right time for us |
| 505s | to be looking at doing it |
| 507s | awesome tide what do you think |
| 510s | for me the new layout looks |
| 512s | really nice really clean and also coming |
| 514s | from development side there's a lot more |
| 517s | space to add new new features to which |
| 519s | is always good |
| 520s | absolutely yeah um and that was one of |
| 523s | the kind of findings that we found |
| 525s | across both the betas that we had on ios |
| 528s | and android they always want to see far |
| 530s | more features added in for mobile so |
| 533s | it's really nice to see the amount of |
| 534s | space you guys are creating for it um so |
| 537s | going a bit deeper into these changes um |
| 540s | let's take a look at the new pop out |
| 541s | panel um can you explain exactly what |
| 544s | the pop-up panel is to players uh nin |
| 547s | we'll go with you first |
| 549s | uh yeah so this if you've seen the steam |
| 553s | client |
| 554s | uh you'll know that it's got a sidebar |
| 556s | but it's basically the the sidebar you |
| 558s | have on roonlight it's like a space to |
| 560s | put some features xp tracker loot |
| 562s | tracker |
| 563s | things like that um |
| 566s | and we needed a place to put it in |
| 568s | the mobile client at the moment in the |
| 569s | mobile betas it is there |
| 571s | uh it exists as a bar down the side of |
| 573s | the screen takes up a lot of space um |
| 577s | but yeah it's just |
| 578s | that feature but into a new place |
| 582s | awesome all right seems pretty |
| 584s | self-explanatory so we'll move on to the |
| 586s | next question um what functionality |
| 588s | exactly can players expect from the |
| 590s | pop-up panel um lenny could you talk us |
| 593s | through |
| 594s | what exactly the features are because |
| 595s | some of our players may not have played |
| 597s | through the betas so far or even on |
| 599s | steam |
| 600s | yeah so the one thing that we have there |
| 602s | at the moment is the dimensions the xp |
| 604s | tracker um which especially when we've |
| 606s | got this big bar on the right side it |
| 607s | looks kind of a little bit lonely and |
| 609s | isolated over there |
| 610s | going forward there's a handful of other |
| 612s | things we've got planned where yeah |
| 613s | where you want to do loot tracking which |
| 615s | will be sort of a perfect candidate |
| 616s | something to go there we want to offer |
| 618s | high score lookups |
| 619s | um and then there's all kinds of other |
| 621s | things that are sort of a little less |
| 622s | certain at the moment but whether it |
| 624s | might be farming timers |
| 626s | um any other kinds of just like |
| 628s | long-term tracking notes things like |
| 630s | that |
| 631s | uh just any of these sorts of things |
| 632s | that want to sit alongside your gameplay |
| 634s | rather than |
| 636s | taking its focus |
| 637s | will be something that will be honed in |
| 638s | that panel |
| 640s | and |
| 641s | yeah it's kind of a little less certain |
| 642s | the further down in the future we go but |
| 644s | the first three that we really want to |
| 645s | get in there are the xp tracker loot |
| 648s | tracker and the high scores panel |
| 650s | yeah |
| 653s | one of the the things that we made sure |
| 654s | to do with this so on on mobile you have |
| 657s | like not a lot of space on the screen we |
| 659s | can't like extend the window out to the |
| 660s | side like on on windows or anything like |
| 662s | that so |
| 664s | um one of the ideas we had you can see |
| 666s | in this frame |
| 668s | um |
| 669s | it's like a kind of minimized panel so |
| 671s | like it extends out all the way so you |
| 673s | can get like a kind of full view of |
| 674s | everything we also had like a little |
| 676s | minimized one in case you just want to |
| 677s | see like you're just doing some mining |
| 678s | or some something like that and you can |
| 679s | just like have that down the bottom |
| 682s | um while you play and it's not too |
| 684s | intrusive so i think that |
| 686s | would be quite handy to have |
| 688s | awesome that sounds amazing chat was |
| 690s | pretty excited about that one too um |
| 693s | okay can we explain a bit more about |
| 694s | helper features what exactly are they |
| 697s | what do they do um lenny could you kind |
| 699s | of explain and expand on that |
| 702s | yeah so helpers are generally what a lot |
| 704s | of people are going to be used to in |
| 705s | third party clients and the sort of |
| 706s | general sort of feature sets that they |
| 708s | really want us to bring to our own |
| 710s | client uh so just anything that kind of |
| 712s | as the name would suggest helps through |
| 714s | your standard day-to-day gameplay |
| 716s | whether that's you know things like the |
| 717s | chamber of zerick helper that we've |
| 719s | already got in place things like the |
| 720s | wood cutting and mining timers |
| 723s | uh slayer sort of overlay anything like |
| 726s | this that just kind of sits alongside |
| 727s | your gameplay helps to present |
| 729s | information more clearly to you in ways |
| 730s | that we just currently don't and don't |
| 732s | have the platform to in the client as it |
| 734s | stands |
| 736s | great i imagine that's going to be super |
| 738s | useful on mobile because it's something |
| 740s | that we don't currently have a way to |
| 742s | show on mobile people can kind of use |
| 744s | rune light if they're using desktop but |
| 747s | mobile this is going to be a massive |
| 748s | upgrade |
| 749s | um yeah i think |
| 751s | sorry |
| 752s | the people who are in the current base |
| 754s | will see that some of those helpers are |
| 756s | already available on |
| 758s | the beta mobile clients but with the |
| 760s | sort of current ui layout they do feel a |
| 762s | little bit just tacked in and they're |
| 763s | kind of shuffling around constantly as |
| 764s | you're opening and closing different |
| 766s | bits of the interface |
| 767s | um which is one of the things we want to |
| 769s | try and address here |
| 771s | awesome yeah making space for it makes |
| 773s | absolute sense as well especially if |
| 775s | we're looking to add more of them |
| 777s | um will players need to keep pressing |
| 779s | expand to see both columns this is a |
| 781s | question that came up from the survey |
| 783s | nin could you answer that for us |
| 786s | uh yeah quick answer no it's a toggle |
| 788s | there's the the new stone the new icon |
| 791s | that you see like within all the stones |
| 792s | on the right hand side that is like you |
| 794s | tap it they come out you tap it again |
| 796s | they go back in and yeah |
| 800s | awesome can you explain some of the |
| 802s | changes that we're looking to make to |
| 804s | chat um will the chat work easier um can |
| 808s | you just explain like what we're looking |
| 810s | to do in that area uh ninh |
| 812s | or something yeah so i kind of |
| 815s | briefly touched on this earlier but it |
| 817s | was less about making the chat like more |
| 819s | functional and more making it just like |
| 821s | look and feel a lot nicer so we've taken |
| 824s | the stones from the top we've moved them |
| 826s | to the |
| 827s | left-hand side um we've made them like |
| 830s | the same like a uniform width like the |
| 832s | report button is actually bigger than |
| 833s | all the other buttons um |
| 835s | and then we made like everything on the |
| 838s | right-hand side is the or the left-hand |
| 839s | side is like the same width now so it |
| 841s | was more about just kind of |
| 843s | having making the ui kind of feel nicer |
| 845s | it's a better first impression for like |
| 847s | a new player um just kind of improves |
| 849s | the like perceived quality of the mobile |
| 852s | client |
| 853s | uh there's definitely some |
| 855s | like from the survey we got some |
| 856s | feedback about uh the chat in particular |
| 859s | so it's something that we're going to |
| 860s | revisit but that's kind of |
| 862s | the |
| 863s | goals that we have in mind with what |
| 864s | we're doing with the chat |
| 867s | awesome yeah i did notice some survey |
| 869s | feedback about players wanting more |
| 871s | functionality and that's definitely |
| 873s | something that we'll look to review um |
| 876s | but for now it's like more of a cleaner |
| 878s | look which i would definitely agree the |
| 880s | chat looks a bit cleaner to me in the |
| 882s | new ui |
| 883s | um right next question can unused |
| 886s | buttons or tools such as like the xp |
| 888s | tracker or any buttons that players |
| 890s | might want to hide because they just |
| 891s | don't use them can they be hidden um |
| 894s | lenny will start with you |
| 896s | sure yeah so things like the xp tracker |
| 899s | is a good example |
| 900s | we're going to kind of make them |
| 902s | available as and when you want to be |
| 904s | available so you know if you go into |
| 905s | your settings menu and just say no i |
| 907s | don't want the xp tracker to be |
| 908s | available for me |
| 910s | that button will go away we're not going |
| 911s | to kind of sit and leave it's out there |
| 913s | to offer nothing |
| 914s | um with the way it currently works it's |
| 917s | sort of set up so that |
| 919s | there'd be a number of different things |
| 920s | available there whether it is the xp |
| 922s | tracker the loot tracker high scores |
| 924s | panel |
| 925s | and it's kind of going to vary based on |
| 927s | a combination of all of those settings |
| 929s | so if you said i don't want any of them |
| 931s | then it would just hide it in its |
| 932s | entirety if you said i do want some of |
| 934s | them then it will show those relevant |
| 935s | ones to you uh obviously it's still |
| 937s | going to take up that little bit of |
| 938s | space for that button but yeah we kind |
| 940s | of tune it to what you actually do want |
| 942s | to see |
| 943s | and try to tidy things up and make as |
| 945s | much space where you don't want it |
| 948s | great sounds awesome |
| 950s | um ty do you kind of have anything to |
| 953s | add on that like in terms of unused |
| 955s | buttons or tools is there anything that |
| 958s | you kind of feel |
| 959s | um you want to comment on |
| 963s | not nothing in particular |
| 964s | at the moment but i think with the stone |
| 966s | buttons looking at the right stone |
| 967s | panels it would be |
| 969s | interesting if we could |
| 970s | say for instance they wanted to have two |
| 971s | panels up at one time maybe for instance |
| 974s | we could have one of those on the left |
| 975s | that'd be pretty cool |
| 977s | i know for me personally i wouldn't want |
| 980s | to see my xp because i'm so inefficient |
| 983s | so i'd want to hide that but it's good |
| 986s | that we get the option |
| 987s | all right um so this was a big question |
| 989s | that came up in the survey um are these |
| 992s | changes |
| 993s | the new |
| 995s | proposed ui changes are they gonna be |
| 997s | optional can players toggle between the |
| 1000s | existing ui and the new ui um and i |
| 1002s | think this warrants like a little bit of |
| 1004s | a wider discussion just to explain a bit |
| 1006s | more about it um so lenny if you could |
| 1008s | kick us off with that question |
| 1010s | yeah so the short answer may not be the |
| 1013s | most popular one but in short is uh no |
| 1015s | we're not going to be able to just |
| 1016s | toggle back and forth between the two |
| 1017s | completely different types of ui |
| 1020s | and the sort of the big overwhelming |
| 1021s | reason for that |
| 1023s | is that to offer all of these new |
| 1024s | features we need some space to put them |
| 1026s | on screen and we just don't have that |
| 1029s | space in the old ui quite simply um we |
| 1031s | don't have you know a good location to |
| 1033s | put the xp track without it just pushing |
| 1035s | everything in from the right hand side |
| 1036s | of the screen which right the beta has |
| 1038s | proved not to be the most popular place |
| 1039s | for it is |
| 1041s | bound to be clunky |
| 1042s | um and then all these sort of extra |
| 1044s | controls options that we want |
| 1046s | that you really don't want to be going |
| 1047s | into the settings menu to sort of switch |
| 1049s | between |
| 1050s | walk only run only |
| 1052s | interact only |
| 1053s | they need to be more available at the |
| 1055s | top level |
| 1056s | um and we just don't have the space to |
| 1058s | sort of offer that in the existing |
| 1060s | layout |
| 1062s | but obviously some people have been |
| 1063s | raising issues that they do have with |
| 1065s | the new ui layout so we don't want to |
| 1067s | kind of say |
| 1068s | tough deal with it you're taking it we |
| 1070s | do want to sort of be a little more |
| 1072s | flexible on that and work to bring it to |
| 1074s | the place that it needs to be where |
| 1075s | people are happy with it um figure out |
| 1078s | what exactly it is that people really do |
| 1079s | prefer about the old ui and try to find |
| 1082s | the right balance in there to make the |
| 1084s | space that we need make the changes that |
| 1085s | we need to make |
| 1086s | but not be taking anything away from |
| 1088s | people while we're at it |
| 1091s | that's a great answer and yeah |
| 1093s | we do want to nail down those particular |
| 1096s | instances where people prefer the old ui |
| 1099s | and make sure that we solve it with the |
| 1101s | new ui um then sorry i cut over you |
| 1104s | uh i forgot what i was going to say |
| 1106s | oh |
| 1109s | um ty do you have anything to add |
| 1111s | yes uh with the thing with it if we if |
| 1113s | we had a toggle and you would have the |
| 1114s | old ui new ui it would take a lot longer |
| 1117s | or it would take us longer to |
| 1119s | create features for them because we'd |
| 1120s | have to figure out where they're going |
| 1122s | on each ui |
| 1123s | any dodging that would need to be done |
| 1125s | having multiple things open at once it |
| 1127s | would uh |
| 1128s | it'll be a lot more work for any feature |
| 1130s | we had |
| 1132s | yeah that's always like a a challenge |
| 1134s | when i think uh giants foundry is is a |
| 1137s | good example it's got like a a really |
| 1139s | nice hud for like when you're doing the |
| 1142s | mini game and you know we've got to make |
| 1144s | sure that works on fixed mode desktop |
| 1146s | resizable desktop resizable modern |
| 1149s | desktop although that's usually like the |
| 1151s | same kind of thing |
| 1152s | um and the mobile ui and if you add like |
| 1154s | a second mobile ui on top of that then |
| 1157s | it's just like |
| 1158s | it's just like a lot so it really helps |
| 1161s | us as well if we can just have one but |
| 1163s | the main reason is because |
| 1165s | uh we we need to make the space we |
| 1167s | wouldn't be like trying to make any |
| 1168s | changes if we didn't have a good reason |
| 1170s | for it |
| 1172s | absolutely and i think something that |
| 1173s | came up when we were discussing the |
| 1174s | feedback um from the survey was that we |
| 1177s | would like to have one but done right |
| 1179s | like we'll do it the right way |
| 1182s | um and hopefully not have like several |
| 1185s | different iterations of ui |
| 1187s | we want to make sure we please as many |
| 1189s | people as possible so |
| 1191s | that's kind of the answer is like it's |
| 1192s | not going to be toggleable between the |
| 1194s | existing ui and the proposed ui but we |
| 1196s | will take the time to make sure that the |
| 1198s | proposed ui takes care of as many issues |
| 1201s | as possible |
| 1202s | um so next question that i've seen which |
| 1205s | is quite popular is um why are we |
| 1208s | looking to make the changes we touch on |
| 1209s | it um but lenny if you could just |
| 1211s | reiterate why do we need to make these |
| 1213s | changes and why now specifically |
| 1217s | yeah so it all looks background to the |
| 1219s | sort of base that we've been running and |
| 1221s | the new features that we've been adding |
| 1222s | already with it and we'll be continuing |
| 1224s | to add where it's one thing with just |
| 1226s | this xp track that we kind of want to |
| 1228s | add in uh where people might decide you |
| 1230s | know what it's kind of a little bit |
| 1231s | obstructive and intrusive so we can just |
| 1233s | toggle it off as we start adding more of |
| 1236s | these features we really do want them to |
| 1237s | be able to fit seamlessly into the ui |
| 1240s | and |
| 1240s | feel like something that you want to be |
| 1242s | there because you know it's not kind of |
| 1244s | impacting the interface but |
| 1247s | is you know the nice piece of sort of |
| 1249s | added content that it is it can offer |
| 1251s | you more information that you want to |
| 1252s | see while you're playing the game |
| 1254s | um |
| 1254s | and in the existing sort of ui iteration |
| 1257s | like we've been saying yeah we just |
| 1258s | quite simply don't have the space for it |
| 1259s | we don't have the way to offer the |
| 1260s | information |
| 1262s | in a sort of nice and user-friendly way |
| 1264s | and we just kind of need to take a |
| 1267s | bigger picture look at it and sort of |
| 1268s | start shuffling things around |
| 1270s | rather than just kind of |
| 1272s | pushing it in and tacking it on top of |
| 1273s | other things |
| 1275s | because |
| 1276s | that's kind of how we've dealt with all |
| 1278s | of the ui iterations on mobile to date |
| 1281s | and the further we keep going with it i |
| 1283s | think the worse it will just keep |
| 1284s | becoming where it's going to become a |
| 1286s | more cramped and |
| 1288s | uh |
| 1289s | unpleasant experience really |
| 1291s | so |
| 1292s | right now with the |
| 1293s | mobile appliance for both ios and |
| 1295s | android and beta and more of these |
| 1297s | features being actually worked on |
| 1299s | um |
| 1300s | and sort of coming out players |
| 1302s | as and when |
| 1303s | uh they're ready |
| 1304s | it feels like the time that we really |
| 1306s | should just be looking at a good |
| 1307s | overhaul for it and |
| 1309s | you know at the same time as a lot of |
| 1310s | new players are going to be able to get |
| 1312s | their hands on these new features |
| 1314s | feels like a good time to kind of just |
| 1315s | revamp it as a whole and say hey it's |
| 1317s | not just |
| 1318s | the exact same old client as you had |
| 1320s | before with a few extra features this is |
| 1323s | the kind of flashy new mobile build that |
| 1325s | we're looking at here |
| 1327s | that's a great answer um do we plan to |
| 1330s | pull these changes um if so would the |
| 1333s | poll be restricted to players who only |
| 1335s | play on mobile um |
| 1338s | lenny would you be comfortable answering |
| 1340s | that |
| 1341s | yeah so |
| 1342s | the short answer again is going to be |
| 1344s | that no we don't plan on pulling these |
| 1345s | changes |
| 1346s | um |
| 1347s | obviously we've already started trying |
| 1349s | to talk with the community about this |
| 1351s | and we want to continue doing that |
| 1353s | uh one of the important things here is |
| 1355s | that we we don't just want to push ahead |
| 1357s | with something that we think is right |
| 1358s | and players aren't happy with we want to |
| 1359s | make sure that we get it right and get |
| 1361s | something that the players |
| 1362s | will really like to have in the mobile |
| 1364s | client |
| 1365s | um |
| 1367s | it's not going to be so dedicated to who |
| 1370s | does or doesn't spend certain amounts of |
| 1371s | time on mobile because |
| 1373s | it's not just aimed at the people that |
| 1374s | are already there we also want to make |
| 1375s | it a more appealing sort of platform for |
| 1378s | people who aren't currently playing on |
| 1379s | mobile |
| 1380s | um |
| 1382s | but yeah and |
| 1384s | yeah it's like if you |
| 1386s | if you like poll all the people who play |
| 1388s | mobile most of them are probably just |
| 1390s | like fishing but there is like a small |
| 1392s | group of them who are like doing bossing |
| 1394s | pvm |
| 1396s | some pking um and we have already seen |
| 1398s | like a fair few responses of people |
| 1400s | saying no this is actually gonna make |
| 1401s | things worse so yeah we're definitely |
| 1403s | going to be going back revisiting |
| 1406s | certain aspects of this and trying to |
| 1408s | make sure that we can get it to work for |
| 1410s | that like we don't want to make anything |
| 1412s | worse than it currently is |
| 1414s | yeah so we're not going to be pulling it |
| 1416s | in the sense that we do need to go ahead |
| 1418s | with these changes in some format to |
| 1420s | enable these new features but we will |
| 1422s | spend the time to make sure that we're |
| 1422s | getting it right and talking to people |
| 1424s | about it |
| 1426s | yeah i've seen like two or three people |
| 1428s | mention hey i do peeking hey i do |
| 1430s | bossing this is going to make my |
| 1432s | experience |
| 1434s | a bit more difficult we see that we've |
| 1436s | seen that in the feedback survey so |
| 1437s | thank you so much for leaving your |
| 1438s | feedback |
| 1439s | and we are going to be going away |
| 1442s | revisiting what we can do to fix that |
| 1444s | we're not ignoring your concerns that's |
| 1446s | definitely a valid concern |
| 1448s | um so |
| 1449s | just give us some time to kind of like |
| 1451s | think about what we might change or |
| 1454s | tweak um we're not intending to just |
| 1456s | push this as an update without kind of |
| 1459s | taking into account those concerns |
| 1461s | but we do want to get a feeling of how |
| 1464s | you guys feel about the ui generally and |
| 1467s | we have a good idea now thanks to |
| 1469s | everyone who filled out the survey |
| 1471s | um right so lots of you guys have asked |
| 1475s | will we be bringing in mobile portrait |
| 1477s | mode i've seen it in all of the betas |
| 1479s | you guys really really don't want to |
| 1481s | show people that you're playing on your |
| 1484s | phone like this in public you want to |
| 1486s | look like you're playing on your you |
| 1488s | want to look like you're texting someone |
| 1490s | and i get it because it's you're in real |
| 1493s | life um so |
| 1495s | uh will we be bringing in a portrait |
| 1497s | mode nin i'm sorry i have to ask you |
| 1500s | this question |
| 1501s | oh that means i have to be the error of |
| 1503s | bad news we're not currently planning |
| 1506s | mobile portrait mode it's obviously been |
| 1508s | discussed like a lot uh i'll throw mod |
| 1510s | kieran under the bus here saying he's |
| 1512s | always coming to us being like hey can |
| 1513s | we do portrait mode and i mean |
| 1517s | i guess he could probably make that cool |
| 1518s | i don't know |
| 1519s | uh but yeah there's there's so much |
| 1521s | going on uh |
| 1523s | it's a lot of work to just like make an |
| 1525s | entire new tli again it like adds a |
| 1527s | bunch of overhead so it's not something |
| 1529s | that we're considering right now but |
| 1532s | we're definitely not rolling it out it's |
| 1533s | definitely something that we know a lot |
| 1534s | of people want we want |
| 1536s | um |
| 1537s | yeah it's not a current consideration |
| 1540s | yeah i think didn't we mention it's it's |
| 1543s | not a small undertaking either because |
| 1546s | all of the layouts of like banks and |
| 1548s | everything is in landscape so we would |
| 1550s | have to figure out a way of |
| 1552s | technically making it so that every |
| 1554s | single landscape type of tool that you |
| 1556s | use in the game can be |
| 1559s | used in portrait and |
| 1561s | we've like had these like crazy |
| 1562s | discussions on like little ways that we |
| 1564s | can integrate portrait mode like with |
| 1566s | the keyboard |
| 1568s | changing around and things like that and |
| 1570s | it's just a lot of work and it's |
| 1571s | something that needs |
| 1573s | actual care and attention someone needs |
| 1575s | to be assigned on that project they need |
| 1576s | to have |
| 1578s | a decent amount of time to |
| 1580s | design it and make it really user |
| 1582s | friendly and it's just not something |
| 1583s | that we can do until we've probably |
| 1586s | pushed out |
| 1587s | all of the other features that you guys |
| 1589s | want so like we know you want ground |
| 1591s | item more because we know you want all |
| 1593s | of these different things and it's just |
| 1594s | about prioritizing them and making sure |
| 1596s | we deliver as soon as possible um to as |
| 1599s | many people as possible so we hear you |
| 1602s | we understand we want it to because we |
| 1604s | don't want to show people that we're |
| 1606s | playing old school in public okay like |
| 1608s | you know but it's it's just something |
| 1611s | that we can't deliver right now um but |
| 1614s | we we hear your concerns um |
| 1617s | okay next question do you plan on |
| 1618s | integrating plugins like the one in |
| 1620s | roonlight to the mobile app uh lenny can |
| 1623s | we go with you for this question |
| 1625s | sure uh so |
| 1627s | this kind of depends on what exactly |
| 1629s | people are referring to when they ask |
| 1630s | for plug-ins um |
| 1633s | again going back to the betas if people |
| 1635s | have been trying out the betas they'll |
| 1636s | see a lot of things that they would |
| 1637s | probably be referencing as plug-ins |
| 1639s | already available things like the slayer |
| 1641s | helper like the xp tracker |
| 1643s | um and there's plenty more we've got |
| 1644s | plan going forwards we've mentioned a |
| 1646s | few times that one of the big ones we're |
| 1648s | looking at uh sort of |
| 1650s | as we speak is clue scrolls |
| 1653s | um |
| 1653s | and plenty more planned sort of as we |
| 1655s | keep going |
| 1657s | if they want things like you know |
| 1660s | uh their door kicker plug-in where they |
| 1662s | can go and kick down every door instead |
| 1664s | of pushing it open |
| 1665s | that might be a little further away that |
| 1667s | might not be one of the things we're |
| 1667s | prioritizing to get but you know it's |
| 1669s | not something that would rule out by any |
| 1671s | means we want to offer a lot of these |
| 1673s | sorts of things that have proven popular |
| 1674s | with players |
| 1676s | um |
| 1677s | and yeah like this sort of new c plus |
| 1680s | plus client whether that's |
| 1681s | mobile or on steam is our platform for |
| 1684s | offering these kinds of new features |
| 1687s | awesome um okay so ui is important um |
| 1691s | but players have felt like menu entry |
| 1694s | swapper grind ground item markers blue |
| 1697s | scroll helpers should also be a high |
| 1699s | priority as it would provide tremendous |
| 1701s | quality of life for mobile |
| 1703s | um what plans do we have for those like |
| 1705s | highly requested features uh lenny can |
| 1708s | we go with you for this one |
| 1710s | yeah so |
| 1711s | those are all things that we do have |
| 1712s | planned going forward in the future or |
| 1714s | sort of plans and discussions going on |
| 1716s | around at least |
| 1717s | um |
| 1718s | and in some cases the features that we |
| 1721s | need to make this space in the sort of |
| 1723s | interface layout for and we just |
| 1724s | currently don't have the sort of screen |
| 1726s | real estate to offer the customization |
| 1728s | and |
| 1729s | the actual data representations that we |
| 1731s | need |
| 1732s | in other cases uh obviously we |
| 1734s | understand that these are really highly |
| 1736s | requested features things like ground |
| 1737s | items um |
| 1739s | and we've just not yet had the sort of |
| 1742s | technical capability to get them |
| 1744s | implemented to the game |
| 1746s | uh we are definitely trying to |
| 1747s | prioritize them we are actively working |
| 1749s | towards them |
| 1750s | but there's |
| 1751s | a sort of huge underlying amount of work |
| 1754s | that goes into |
| 1755s | little bits and pieces the players might |
| 1756s | not even consider with regards to you |
| 1758s | know being able to filter out which |
| 1760s | items they do or don't want to see if |
| 1761s | you don't want to see bones getting |
| 1763s | highlighted every time they're dropped |
| 1764s | or ashes |
| 1765s | um being able to filter things out by |
| 1768s | their |
| 1769s | value anything like that |
| 1771s | it's a far more complex task than it |
| 1772s | seems at face value that's had a sort of |
| 1775s | huge amount of technical work required |
| 1777s | behind it |
| 1778s | uh we are working towards them but yes |
| 1781s | they are not quick features for us to |
| 1783s | get out |
| 1785s | well so you guys heard it here menu |
| 1787s | entry swapper round item markers clue |
| 1790s | scroll helpers they're on the cards uh |
| 1793s | we are going to be making them it's just |
| 1796s | uh |
| 1797s | you know some as soon as they're ready |
| 1799s | um i also saw a question in chat about |
| 1801s | an idol notifier and i believe we talked |
| 1804s | about this in feedback |
| 1806s | um is this something that is on that |
| 1809s | list of things that we will get around |
| 1810s | to |
| 1811s | at some point |
| 1813s | yeah so there's there's two different |
| 1815s | things that could be getting referenced |
| 1816s | there because we've come to realize |
| 1818s | ourselves this really pretty confusing |
| 1819s | terminology around it um the two |
| 1822s | different things one of which is already |
| 1824s | available within the mobile based in the |
| 1826s | same client is the kind of afk logout |
| 1829s | timer where |
| 1831s | you know 30 seconds before the game's |
| 1832s | going towards that you sign you out it |
| 1834s | will send you a notification and let you |
| 1835s | know that it's going to |
| 1837s | the other thing which the far more sort |
| 1839s | of fiddly and involved |
| 1841s | uh helper is to tell you when you go |
| 1844s | idle from doing something you know when |
| 1846s | you stop wood cursing at a redwood when |
| 1848s | you stop mining whatever it might be um |
| 1851s | which is another one of these more |
| 1853s | complex things that we've not yet gotten |
| 1855s | to but it's definitely on the cards |
| 1856s | definitely something we're intending to |
| 1857s | do |
| 1858s | when we can |
| 1861s | great thanks lenny |
| 1862s | um okay so i've seen a lot of this |
| 1864s | actually in chat so it's great that this |
| 1866s | has popped up |
| 1867s | is there an expected release date for |
| 1869s | the mobile ui changes uh nin can we |
| 1871s | start with you for this one |
| 1873s | yeah uh |
| 1875s | we still have to go through all the |
| 1877s | feedback and and make some adjustments |
| 1879s | and we'll probably put out another |
| 1880s | mock-up um |
| 1882s | before we do end up |
| 1884s | like releasing it |
| 1885s | uh i'd say maybe |
| 1888s | maybe within |
| 1889s | a few months but that might be pushing |
| 1891s | it um |
| 1893s | almost certainly before the end of the |
| 1894s | year |
| 1895s | uh |
| 1896s | we've got a few things going on with |
| 1898s | mobile so obviously we've got the |
| 1900s | android and the ios betas which are |
| 1902s | currently ongoing |
| 1903s | um at some point in the next couple of |
| 1905s | months those |
| 1907s | are gonna become like we're gonna swap |
| 1910s | those out so we'll get rid of the old |
| 1911s | client and |
| 1912s | then the |
| 1914s | the beta client will become the actual |
| 1916s | client um and that on its own has like a |
| 1918s | bunch of a bunch of things it's got |
| 1920s | increased draw distance it's got like |
| 1922s | higher resolution rendering it's got uh |
| 1924s | agility helper |
| 1926s | um a bunch of like |
| 1927s | the new features that we've already uh |
| 1930s | already developed and have been out in |
| 1932s | the beta um |
| 1933s | and then at some point after that the ui |
| 1936s | changes will come um |
| 1938s | yeah i'd say probably a few months away |
| 1940s | but no exact date |
| 1943s | well i think it's good from a community |
| 1945s | point of view that we're not looking to |
| 1947s | rush these changes out they're something |
| 1949s | that you know we want to do we want to |
| 1951s | make sure that we |
| 1953s | make sure that |
| 1954s | mobile has a good space a good amount of |
| 1956s | space for these features but it's not |
| 1958s | something that we're looking to push as |
| 1960s | soon as possible and we want to take our |
| 1962s | time with it take into account all of |
| 1964s | the feedback and then push these changes |
| 1966s | when they're kind of ready and when we |
| 1969s | feel like they're up to um standard that |
| 1972s | the community want so |
| 1974s | that's a huge w in my opinion does |
| 1977s | anyone else want to add anything to that |
| 1978s | before we move into some of the more |
| 1981s | uh |
| 1981s | other ui questions |
| 1984s | yeah |
| 1985s | giving leaving some time in there for |
| 1987s | community feedback is going to be nice |
| 1990s | so |
| 1991s | that we get it right the the first time |
| 1993s | when it first goes out instead of we've |
| 1994s | released it oh a lot of these a lot of |
| 1997s | you don't like this then |
| 1998s | we have to rework it again it will save |
| 2000s | time in the long run |
| 2002s | yeah tweet me tweet me your angry |
| 2004s | thoughts about the mobile ui changes |
| 2006s | that you don't like |
| 2008s | you heard it guys |
| 2010s | tweet yourself |
| 2012s | as well |
| 2013s | yeah we welcome the positivity too and |
| 2016s | i've seen a lot of positivity in chat as |
| 2018s | well by the way um |
| 2020s | so we'll get into some other ui |
| 2022s | questions um one of the changes that we |
| 2025s | are planning to replace is single tap |
| 2027s | with a long press |
| 2029s | how does the long press timer |
| 2030s | theoretically replaced single tap |
| 2033s | function and are we actually still going |
| 2035s | ahead with this considering the feedback |
| 2037s | um about single tap and how useful it |
| 2039s | was |
| 2041s | yeah so one of the one of the things |
| 2043s | that we said in the blog was um we're |
| 2046s | going to get rid of the keyboard |
| 2047s | functionality of the |
| 2049s | like function button and we're going to |
| 2050s | get rid of the single tab function out |
| 2052s | of functionality and we don't need them |
| 2054s | um |
| 2055s | with the idea being that |
| 2058s | you can now customize your long press |
| 2060s | time which is actually huge like being |
| 2061s | able to customize your long press time |
| 2063s | and then getting haptic feedback when |
| 2064s | the mini menu opens which are features |
| 2066s | of the |
| 2067s | betas |
| 2068s | um actually just improves like using the |
| 2070s | long press so much |
| 2072s | um |
| 2073s | the idea was that okay if we made that a |
| 2076s | lot better then people probably won't |
| 2077s | need single tap anymore but people have |
| 2080s | obviously raised a lot of things like |
| 2081s | black jacking and a bunch of activities |
| 2084s | like actually the single tap |
| 2086s | uh functionality |
| 2087s | is really handy for like a bunch of |
| 2089s | activities so yeah we just won't remove |
| 2092s | it we'll find some space in that like |
| 2093s | controls widget |
| 2095s | we'll make sure to keep it around |
| 2098s | great awesome so single tap will remain |
| 2100s | guys thank you for sending us your |
| 2102s | feedback |
| 2103s | has there been any talk of f key or |
| 2105s | keybind support for switching tabs on |
| 2107s | mobile |
| 2108s | player says they have an ipad with the |
| 2110s | magic keyboard as their mobile computer |
| 2112s | and it would be awesome if they could |
| 2113s | rebind some unnecessary keys on the |
| 2115s | keyboard to act as fps um like on the pc |
| 2119s | version |
| 2120s | um so just wondering about like |
| 2122s | rebinding uh keys similar to desktop um |
| 2126s | do you guys have any thoughts on this |
| 2129s | uh yeah so i mean in the short term |
| 2132s | we're not looking to officially support |
| 2134s | using |
| 2135s | keyboards and mice on android and ios |
| 2138s | there has been some work done to make |
| 2139s | sure that they kind of like function |
| 2142s | um |
| 2143s | but there's a lot of other features that |
| 2144s | we need to get done first before we we |
| 2146s | consider that kind of thing one of the |
| 2148s | main uh difficulties with that is like |
| 2151s | how the way that the chat works like |
| 2153s | being able to rebind keys that don't |
| 2155s | type characters um or the do type |
| 2158s | characters is just kind of difficult |
| 2160s | um |
| 2161s | but yeah i mean it's something that |
| 2162s | maybe we could look at in the future but |
| 2164s | in the short term |
| 2166s | we have other things that we need to |
| 2167s | look at |
| 2170s | so more of like a nice to have type |
| 2172s | thing that we'll look at |
| 2174s | um do the mobile ui changes affect |
| 2176s | battery life at all and this was a |
| 2179s | question that came up from the survey |
| 2180s | and i was quite curious about it do you |
| 2181s | think that um |
| 2183s | it will make it more |
| 2185s | draining to a mobile user |
| 2189s | uh the ui changes themselves shouldn't |
| 2192s | uh is it's possible that there might be |
| 2194s | some difference in battery life between |
| 2196s | the current client and the beta client |
| 2199s | um |
| 2200s | but that would depend on that depending |
| 2202s | on your device it will depend on the |
| 2203s | draw distance because you cannot |
| 2204s | customize that |
| 2205s | um the frame rate |
| 2207s | uh things like that we've been keeping |
| 2209s | an eye on it throughout the betas and it |
| 2211s | hasn't been raised as much of an issue i |
| 2214s | think |
| 2215s | um |
| 2216s | so |
| 2216s | yeah i |
| 2218s | the ui changes themselves |
| 2219s | won't |
| 2222s | could be wrong in this as well but with |
| 2224s | the change to c plus plus |
| 2226s | then |
| 2228s | it'd be better performance it could be |
| 2229s | better performance anyway i could be |
| 2230s | wrong with that |
| 2233s | yeah definitely in some places it is is |
| 2235s | a lot faster than the |
| 2237s | java client um so yeah that's a |
| 2239s | possibility as well it does render a |
| 2241s | higher resolution |
| 2242s | which might affect battery life um we |
| 2245s | were thinking about ways to kind of make |
| 2246s | it that as well but yeah |
| 2248s | we haven't seen |
| 2250s | any |
| 2250s | any issues with it really throughout the |
| 2252s | beta so |
| 2253s | should be all good |
| 2256s | nice |
| 2256s | um |
| 2257s | i'm left-handed so this question is dear |
| 2260s | to my heart um will the new i be new ui |
| 2264s | be usable or switchable for left-handed |
| 2266s | players |
| 2268s | um it's |
| 2269s | not something that we had considered |
| 2271s | initially but if you think about it we |
| 2274s | could take everything below like the |
| 2275s | chat and the mini map and just make it |
| 2277s | so that you can like mirror them maybe |
| 2279s | that would work it's something that |
| 2281s | we're considering um and it yeah it did |
| 2283s | come out quite a lot in the feedback as |
| 2284s | well so |
| 2285s | yeah it's one of the things that we're |
| 2287s | discussing and looking at |
| 2290s | nice lefties we're still in for a chance |
| 2292s | to become the best mobile gamers out |
| 2294s | there |
| 2295s | then you're also left-handed are you |
| 2298s | yep |
| 2300s | so |
| 2301s | yeah i mean like you know they don't |
| 2302s | make like a left-handed xbox controller |
| 2304s | because that's that's dumb they don't |
| 2306s | make like a |
| 2307s | you know we just get used to it |
| 2310s | yeah we just have to learn to live with |
| 2311s | it but we really shouldn't we should |
| 2313s | start an uprising honestly |
| 2315s | um |
| 2316s | okay so will you consider porting the |
| 2318s | new look of the chat button and side |
| 2320s | panel stones to pc and desktop or |
| 2324s | resizable mode |
| 2327s | so this isn't something that we've |
| 2328s | considered before |
| 2330s | um |
| 2331s | but if it does prove to be a popular new |
| 2332s | look then i definitely wouldn't be |
| 2334s | opposed to it |
| 2335s | uh would definitely need to sort of like |
| 2337s | reconsider it because |
| 2338s | especially in the context of fake screen |
| 2341s | i know this references resizeable mode |
| 2342s | but in fixed screen rare everything is |
| 2344s | kind of held together by this stone |
| 2347s | frame it might look a little out of |
| 2349s | place to have this different style of |
| 2350s | stone on top of it |
| 2352s | um i think we've got more flexibility to |
| 2354s | it in resizable |
| 2356s | where |
| 2357s | it's kind of all detached from each |
| 2358s | other anyway |
| 2360s | but yeah it's kind of down to how people |
| 2362s | feel about it if they feel like it would |
| 2364s | be a welcome change on desktop i'm |
| 2366s | perfectly open to it myself uh it's |
| 2368s | probably not something that we'd rush to |
| 2370s | get to do because we don't have the same |
| 2371s | sort of need for it as we do on the |
| 2373s | mobile client when making space |
| 2375s | but |
| 2376s | yeah it's definitely something that we |
| 2377s | could be open to in the future |
| 2380s | open you guys are that's awesome um |
| 2383s | right so i noticed the look of the |
| 2385s | proposed interface look really sleek and |
| 2387s | square compared to the classic runescape |
| 2389s | look of the buttons that look like |
| 2391s | stones do you feel that keeping the |
| 2393s | overall look and feel of the classic |
| 2395s | runescape interface is more important |
| 2397s | why did we seem to deviate from it |
| 2400s | yeah could we get west usually would be |
| 2403s | here sorry |
| 2404s | um westwood we can get those on it |
| 2408s | get the picture right of the |
| 2411s | thing so hopefully whilst |
| 2413s | that um wes would usually be here um he |
| 2416s | couldn't make it to the stream so we're |
| 2418s | gonna have to kind of talk on behalf of |
| 2419s | him which um isn't the best but |
| 2422s | hopefully we can give you some kind of |
| 2423s | answer so min take it away |
| 2425s | yeah could we get the like the full |
| 2427s | screen one with the mini map open and |
| 2428s | everything as well |
| 2429s | um |
| 2430s | yeah so |
| 2432s | in in lieu of |
| 2433s | mod west being ill today um |
| 2437s | yeah we |
| 2439s | there were a couple of reasons for like |
| 2442s | making this kind of aesthetic change um |
| 2445s | the first one was so you have |
| 2446s | now that we have all of the stones in |
| 2448s | two columns uh the stones are rounded so |
| 2450s | if you have them all right next to each |
| 2452s | other you get these uh like gaps between |
| 2454s | them you can see the world through um |
| 2457s | so we really wanted to kind of square |
| 2459s | them out |
| 2460s | um and then the aesthetic that we ended |
| 2463s | up going for was this kind of like steel |
| 2465s | looking one and that was to |
| 2468s | i remember like discussing this with mod |
| 2469s | west he was like |
| 2471s | to kind of make it more cohesive like |
| 2473s | fit with the the mini map it's kind of |
| 2475s | got like a frame that's |
| 2477s | a bit more |
| 2478s | like clean um and then the side panel |
| 2481s | itself has like these kind of edges and |
| 2484s | and a |
| 2485s | border around it |
| 2486s | um |
| 2487s | so |
| 2488s | we were just kind of |
| 2490s | experimenting to see like could we make |
| 2492s | this look a bit more kind of cohesive um |
| 2496s | it is like a bit of a departure from |
| 2497s | like the the old school look |
| 2499s | uh particularly like the um controls |
| 2502s | thing as well that was another thing |
| 2504s | where we were like |
| 2505s | let's experiment this is just like a |
| 2507s | like a proposal um let's throw it out |
| 2510s | see what people like |
| 2511s | um |
| 2512s | so yeah we're welcoming any feedback on |
| 2514s | it personally i quite like them |
| 2517s | but yeah we're welcoming feedback |
| 2520s | yeah when you explained about the stones |
| 2523s | and the fact that if you put all the |
| 2525s | stones together you would see little |
| 2527s | holes through it i my ocd got super |
| 2530s | triggered so i'm personally happy with |
| 2532s | the way that it looks |
| 2534s | um |
| 2535s | but i can understand why players who are |
| 2536s | used to the the stones they feel that |
| 2539s | they're very used to it |
| 2541s | um why they might be a bit you know |
| 2544s | taken aback by it |
| 2546s | um |
| 2547s | so yeah i guess it's up to personal |
| 2548s | preference and stuff generally speaking |
| 2551s | i can say from the survey results that |
| 2553s | most people did like it we did see some |
| 2555s | kind of variants and opinions when it |
| 2557s | came to the question about art style on |
| 2559s | the whole |
| 2560s | most people either like the new art |
| 2563s | changes or they're kind of neutral about |
| 2565s | it |
| 2566s | but we will be chatting with wes to see |
| 2568s | if there's anything that we can do in |
| 2569s | particular so if you are going to give |
| 2571s | us feedback on the art cell um just keep |
| 2573s | it constructive |
| 2575s | let us know your thoughts as kind of |
| 2576s | like constructively as possible and then |
| 2578s | we can go away and look at that as a |
| 2580s | team |
| 2581s | but if you do say stuff like oh i just |
| 2583s | hate it it looks trash it looks terrible |
| 2585s | there's nothing really we can take from |
| 2587s | that in order to improve it so |
| 2590s | definitely give us your thoughts we're |
| 2592s | still looking at it |
| 2593s | but make sure that all of those thoughts |
| 2595s | are you kind of put it into words that |
| 2597s | we can then take away and do something |
| 2599s | different um and improve it |
| 2602s | um |
| 2603s | does anyone want to add anything before |
| 2604s | you move on to the next question |
| 2610s | i think uh with the new changes in the |
| 2611s | way it looks it looks a lot sleeker and |
| 2613s | a bit more a bit more uniformed |
| 2617s | sleek loving it |
| 2619s | all right so which activities do you |
| 2622s | guys see the new mobile ui excelling in |
| 2624s | compared to the previous where do you |
| 2626s | see it performing the same or |
| 2628s | potentially even worse and nin how about |
| 2631s | you answer this one |
| 2633s | yeah so the |
| 2636s | the ones that i saw most people like |
| 2638s | asking about before we even like thought |
| 2640s | about doing a rework was uh alking and |
| 2643s | superheating because you have the magic |
| 2645s | your spells are on like one side and |
| 2647s | your imagery's on the other um |
| 2649s | so that |
| 2650s | becomes |
| 2651s | a lot easier with this change um |
| 2655s | we've seen |
| 2656s | uh like i mentioned earlier we saw some |
| 2658s | feedback where people think that pvm you |
| 2661s | know is gonna end up your your right |
| 2663s | thumb is gonna be like way |
| 2665s | like overloaded and your left thumb's |
| 2667s | not gonna be doing anything if you have |
| 2668s | to like do gear switches or switching |
| 2670s | prayers and things like that so |
| 2672s | um |
| 2673s | we're gonna come up with a solution to |
| 2676s | that because we don't want anything to |
| 2677s | be worse |
| 2679s | we want everything to be as good |
| 2681s | if not better um |
| 2684s | most things probably will remain the |
| 2685s | same though like anything where you're |
| 2686s | just interacting with the world will |
| 2688s | remain the same |
| 2690s | awesome cool |
| 2692s | um can we make it easier to right click |
| 2694s | on mobile currently it's a pain to grind |
| 2697s | anything requiring it |
| 2700s | uh yeah if anyone's played the the betas |
| 2703s | then yeah the long press |
| 2706s | the long press time |
| 2707s | on the old client is 600 milliseconds |
| 2710s | which is more than half a second that's |
| 2712s | like a really long time to wait for the |
| 2714s | many many to open you can turn that down |
| 2715s | all the way to 100 milliseconds in the |
| 2717s | new client which is too fast |
| 2719s | but 200 is a pretty good number to have |
| 2722s | on um |
| 2723s | and that makes anything like |
| 2725s | like you just tap do tap do |
| 2728s | just like way better than it currently |
| 2729s | is um so yeah as soon as you get your |
| 2731s | hands on like the beta or when we go and |
| 2733s | and swap out for the the real thing um |
| 2737s | yeah it'll be better and we'll keep |
| 2738s | single tap mode as well |
| 2741s | i do remember from the beta there were |
| 2743s | so many people saying how smooth it was |
| 2745s | and how it just felt so different um |
| 2747s | compared to the mobile so |
| 2749s | compared to the existing mobile um |
| 2751s | client that we have so i'm really really |
| 2753s | excited to see uh when you guys will get |
| 2755s | your hands on it |
| 2757s | there's so many things that you just |
| 2758s | they're tiny little details but they |
| 2760s | make such a difference in terms of your |
| 2762s | gameplay |
| 2763s | and i think that customizable long press |
| 2765s | timer is going to be one to watch |
| 2767s | because it definitely makes all the |
| 2768s | difference especially considering you |
| 2771s | know you're clicking all the time |
| 2773s | as a mobile user also so i'm always |
| 2776s | shouting about it the long press delay |
| 2778s | and the haptic feedback is just so good |
| 2781s | so good |
| 2784s | it's my favorite thing about the new |
| 2785s | client |
| 2788s | that's awesome |
| 2790s | um as a mobile user who plays mainly on |
| 2792s | large android tablet the one feature i'd |
| 2794s | love to see is a way to resize all ui |
| 2797s | elements at once perhaps a slide bar in |
| 2799s | the display settings to clarify my |
| 2801s | request this is from a player on tablet |
| 2804s | there's no need for the inventory or |
| 2806s | chat to take up the same percent of |
| 2807s | space it does on mobile i would like |
| 2809s | more uncovered uncluttered gameplay real |
| 2812s | estate someone else use gameplay real |
| 2814s | estate well on the men well the menu |
| 2816s | should stay the same size as they are on |
| 2818s | mobile |
| 2822s | that's a good good term |
| 2824s | real estate use all the time |
| 2826s | um |
| 2828s | the |
| 2829s | new client makes it technically possible |
| 2832s | like we can resize |
| 2833s | that we can like scale the ui separately |
| 2835s | to like the rest of the app |
| 2837s | um |
| 2838s | so technically yeah that's possible it's |
| 2840s | not something that we've like |
| 2841s | considered before like i saw this |
| 2843s | question today um |
| 2845s | yeah it's definitely possible if we get |
| 2847s | enough requests for it maybe we can do |
| 2848s | it in the future |
| 2851s | cool |
| 2852s | all right um have we considered changing |
| 2854s | the also log out timer it's rather short |
| 2856s | for someone multitasking |
| 2858s | um an afk able skill like sand crabs or |
| 2862s | bank standing perhaps adding a visible |
| 2865s | timer warning or push notification |
| 2868s | does anyone have any thoughts on this |
| 2870s | yeah so i mean changing the auto logout |
| 2873s | timer is a bit of a more broad sort of |
| 2876s | like game question as |
| 2877s | you know do we want to allow people to |
| 2879s | say sign in for longer which wouldn't |
| 2881s | just affect people afk and things but |
| 2882s | also affect you know people actually |
| 2884s | just going away and leaving their |
| 2886s | account inactive |
| 2887s | uh which you know we want them to get |
| 2889s | signed out before too long in those |
| 2890s | cases we don't want to leave people |
| 2892s | left signed in for hours when they're |
| 2894s | not at home |
| 2896s | um |
| 2897s | but |
| 2898s | yeah it's kind of one that falls outside |
| 2900s | of just the scope of these client and |
| 2901s | mobile changes |
| 2904s | i wouldn't personally |
| 2907s | hold my hopes too high for it i think |
| 2909s | there are a number of reasons that it |
| 2911s | should be kept sort of |
| 2913s | at least fairly close to where it is at |
| 2915s | the moment |
| 2916s | um |
| 2917s | but yeah it definitely could be |
| 2918s | something that the team at least |
| 2920s | consider obviously this limitation was |
| 2922s | put in place |
| 2923s | god knows how many years ago now i don't |
| 2925s | think it's ever changed since the |
| 2927s | release of old school at least and |
| 2929s | however many years before that |
| 2932s | on the sort of follow-up part of kind of |
| 2934s | warnings timers push notifications |
| 2936s | to have a little another little |
| 2938s | throwback to the fact we've got these |
| 2940s | ongoing betas and the same client we do |
| 2942s | have push notifications available on the |
| 2944s | mobile basis uh when you're about to be |
| 2946s | signed out we do have sort of desktop |
| 2948s | post notifications on the same client if |
| 2951s | you're about to be signed up and don't |
| 2952s | have the window in focus |
| 2954s | we are looking at these kinds of |
| 2955s | notifications |
| 2956s | if there's more that people still want |
| 2958s | if they do want kind of like |
| 2959s | uh an on-screen indicator |
| 2962s | then we could maybe consider that but |
| 2963s | i'd hope that when people are actually |
| 2965s | looking at the screen they're also kind |
| 2967s | of |
| 2967s | actually engaging with it and not about |
| 2969s | to be signed out anyway |
| 2970s | so hopefully the kind of push |
| 2972s | notifications and the out of focus |
| 2974s | notifications |
| 2975s | cover the majority of cases that this is |
| 2977s | really wanted for |
| 2980s | they want farming one from what i've |
| 2982s | seen i've seen a lot of people say we |
| 2984s | want farming notifications i don't know |
| 2987s | if we have those |
| 2989s | uh that that's something that has been |
| 2990s | looked at quite a long while back now um |
| 2993s | i seem to remember back when everyone |
| 2995s | was in the office you know pre-pandemic |
| 2997s | that there was some investigation going |
| 2999s | on into that maybe from |
| 3001s | mod oasis and modmas at the time i |
| 3002s | believe |
| 3004s | uh it is not a simple thing to do it's |
| 3006s | something that we love the idea of doing |
| 3008s | and having push notifications when |
| 3010s | you're offline to tell you that you know |
| 3012s | you |
| 3013s | your tree has fully grown it is not |
| 3015s | simple |
| 3017s | okay |
| 3018s | oh that would be so good though |
| 3022s | uh but back on the top of the log |
| 3024s | notifier maybe it would help if we uh |
| 3026s | allowed them to customize how long until |
| 3028s | it was sent |
| 3031s | potentially yeah um i mean i do wonder |
| 3034s | if the players who are asking for us to |
| 3036s | include in the client just haven't been |
| 3038s | playing with the beta and haven't played |
| 3039s | the same client so just didn't realize |
| 3040s | it was there rather than really needing |
| 3042s | the customization though |
| 3044s | true |
| 3046s | yeah and on the uh |
| 3048s | on the auto logout timer |
| 3050s | i mean i've only thought about it for |
| 3052s | like 10 seconds but i'd be i'd be well |
| 3054s | in favor of making it longer there's |
| 3056s | probably a ton of problems with with |
| 3058s | doing that that i'm not considering but |
| 3062s | i think we should do it |
| 3066s | all right you guys know who's at |
| 3068s | i don't know |
| 3070s | how popular it would be |
| 3072s | yeah no that's awesome |
| 3075s | definitely we should consider everything |
| 3077s | if it's coming up a lot in feedback that |
| 3079s | people really want us to reconsider it |
| 3081s | um it's a completely valid thing to take |
| 3083s | back to the team and discuss um there's |
| 3085s | no promises that we can ever make on q |
| 3087s | and a's but we definitely should give |
| 3090s | our thoughts so yeah |
| 3092s | if you guys think the logout timer |
| 3093s | should be increased um definitely share |
| 3096s | that i'm sure that many players would |
| 3098s | find that relieving to hear |
| 3101s | um okay so last question and then we'll |
| 3104s | wrap up with some ugc |
| 3106s | um are there any plans on allowing ios |
| 3109s | users to lock their phone and stay |
| 3111s | logged in |
| 3113s | uh |
| 3114s | yeah this is something that we've been |
| 3116s | investigating like a like a ton over the |
| 3119s | course of like developing these new |
| 3121s | android and ios clients it's like how |
| 3122s | can we |
| 3123s | like keep the app still running in the |
| 3125s | background and |
| 3127s | what we've what we've found as far as |
| 3128s | like i know is that |
| 3131s | uh |
| 3132s | ios is just like really picky about like |
| 3134s | what you're doing with an app while it's |
| 3136s | backgrounded and it will just decide |
| 3138s | that |
| 3139s | now |
| 3140s | it's done you're done using that app it |
| 3142s | can't get like a network connection or |
| 3143s | something anymore um so yeah from from |
| 3146s | what i understand iphones are kind of |
| 3147s | strict about like the lifetime of your |
| 3149s | app when it's backgrounded |
| 3151s | which makes that kind of difficult for |
| 3152s | us to do but like we have put |
| 3154s | um |
| 3155s | a lot of work into like figuring that |
| 3157s | out so maybe we'll maybe we'll have a |
| 3159s | breakthrough at some point |
| 3162s | awesome thank you so much for answering |
| 3164s | that um does anybody have anything to |
| 3166s | add in terms of that question or any |
| 3168s | other questions maybe that you're seeing |
| 3170s | in chat um that you want to address |
| 3174s | the only question i've just seen come up |
| 3175s | a moment ago was you know saying |
| 3177s | speaking of uh the steam client and |
| 3179s | these features when can we expect a new |
| 3180s | batch and i don't want to give a |
| 3182s | specific time or date or anything |
| 3184s | but |
| 3185s | the near future is my kind of tentative |
| 3188s | short answer um like we mentioned in the |
| 3190s | past you gonna know because that's clues |
| 3191s | gross being our focus and it's coming |
| 3193s | along really well huge shout out to mod |
| 3195s | silva on it |
| 3197s | has been putting on some more some work |
| 3199s | um and yeah it's really coming together |
| 3200s | nicely |
| 3202s | hopefully not too far out within the |
| 3204s | next month or |
| 3207s | champ two scroll helper that's so big |
| 3210s | especially for um i'm assuming that's |
| 3213s | going to be |
| 3214s | transferred over through to like mobile |
| 3216s | and things like that so that's awesome |
| 3220s | yeah |
| 3221s | hi do you want to add anything or |
| 3222s | address anything that you've seen in |
| 3223s | chat take it away |
| 3226s | uh there's nothing to me but |
| 3228s | the the scrub is looking really really |
| 3231s | nice and uh you should all look forward |
| 3233s | to seeing that |
| 3235s | hi and then do you want to address |
| 3238s | anything before i go into ugc |
| 3240s | uh the only thing i saw was someone said |
| 3243s | that left-handed people like iron men of |
| 3245s | real life |
| 3246s | which is so true we love to talk about |
| 3248s | it and just make sure that everyone |
| 3250s | knows |
| 3254s | that is perfect oh that makes me feel so |
| 3256s | much better about it |
| 3258s | um right okay let's wrap up with some |
| 3260s | community content what is in store for |
| 3262s | this week i don't think any of us have |
| 3264s | actually seen it so uh first of all |
| 3267s | if we can get the uh first one up which |
| 3270s | is just titled neve |
| 3272s | oh my goodness that's beautiful |
| 3275s | this is by daniel |
| 3278s | daniel r lee |
| 3280s | wow |
| 3281s | oh gorgeous |
| 3284s | stunning |
| 3285s | just so damn talented |
| 3288s | yes |
| 3289s | oh my gosh |
| 3291s | i can barely draw a stick person |
| 3296s | that is stunning |
| 3299s | what uh does anyone know what creature |
| 3300s | that is on the right hand side |
| 3303s | i don't like knowledge |
| 3305s | anyone in chat now |
| 3309s | looks like some kind of hydra maybe |
| 3312s | is someone said dog |
| 3315s | is that a dog |
| 3317s | all right |
| 3320s | oh do you want it is that what it is |
| 3322s | that's what the chat seems to be saying |
| 3324s | okay that is sickening |
| 3326s | she looks amazing oh my gosh |
| 3330s | all right the next one is 13 years of |
| 3332s | runescape drawings by |
| 3334s | ariton i returned |
| 3337s | oh yes i saw this um so i think the |
| 3340s | first one is where he the person started |
| 3342s | and this is like their drawing skills |
| 3345s | now |
| 3346s | that's amazing i'm not gonna like they |
| 3349s | started out pretty good |
| 3355s | i do remember being a big fan of many |
| 3357s | pictures like the one on the left back |
| 3359s | in the day |
| 3360s | oh yeah oh that it looks like something |
| 3362s | you draw at school where you're kind of |
| 3364s | just like |
| 3366s | really bored in class and |
| 3368s | yeah you're just thinking about |
| 3369s | runescape |
| 3370s | that's proof that if you put as much |
| 3372s | time as you put into runescape into a |
| 3374s | drawing then |
| 3380s | well done |
| 3381s | um the next one is inferno af once |
| 3387s | oh my gosh that's beautiful oh |
| 3391s | i'm assuming they drew that they painted |
| 3394s | that on oh my gosh |
| 3396s | i wonder what the the shoe would look |
| 3398s | like if the pattern was continued the |
| 3399s | whole way around |
| 3402s | and you had to shoot |
| 3403s | the shoe laces as well |
| 3406s | geez |
| 3408s | that is so great |
| 3410s | i love it i don't know if they do |
| 3413s | commissions but oh my gosh that would be |
| 3415s | so great |
| 3418s | and the next one is you have a funny |
| 3419s | feeling you're being followed so this |
| 3422s | could be i don't know |
| 3424s | oh that's so cute |
| 3427s | oh my gosh |
| 3428s | imagine having that on your desk i've |
| 3430s | seen the kraken pet in game and it's |
| 3432s | just one of the most adorable pets ever |
| 3434s | they're so cute i don't even think it's |
| 3436s | meant to be cute it's meant to look |
| 3437s | scary but it just ends up looking really |
| 3439s | cute |
| 3440s | no he's just a little wiggly boy |
| 3444s | um that's by fr via peruvia |
| 3449s | and our last um ugc of the week is who |
| 3452s | would win in a fight by orthazor |
| 3456s | oh |
| 3458s | who do you think would win |
| 3460s | the uh is it a smoke devil in the |
| 3461s | background easy |
| 3464s | no i mean the mage looks ready to go |
| 3467s | oh yeah he's already got uh got a spell |
| 3469s | going |
| 3471s | you're |
| 3474s | ah the the man with the axe he's gonna |
| 3476s | chop them all down |
| 3478s | oh yeah true |
| 3480s | no creation |
| 3482s | all right well that's our ugc for the |
| 3485s | week but don't leave yet we still have |
| 3487s | one more thing to talk to you about |
| 3488s | before we let you guys go |
| 3490s | uh we have a really cool trailer to show |
| 3493s | you um for from rs kingdoms um |
| 3498s | the steamforged game stuff so if see uh |
| 3501s | spear can get that up for us |
| 3520s | uh |
| 3598s | wow |
| 3599s | guys what you just witnessed was a cgi |
| 3603s | trailer for a physical board game that |
| 3606s | is being developed by steam forged games |
| 3609s | so i just have a few things to say um |
| 3611s | steamforged are bringing this bad boy to |
| 3613s | kickstarter on the 31st of may so very |
| 3615s | very soon we actually played it through |
| 3617s | the digital version and really enjoyed |
| 3619s | it a couple of weeks back i know lenny |
| 3621s | um has a bit say on that um beloved osrs |
| 3625s | creator 9rain is also going to be doing |
| 3627s | the digital playthrough with steam forge |
| 3629s | soon you can keep an eye on |
| 3632s | all of their channels for more info with |
| 3633s | exclamation mark rs kingdoms um the |
| 3636s | kickstarter is starting tuesday so |
| 3638s | follow the kickstarter page if you want |
| 3640s | to get involved super super fun um and |
| 3643s | lenny i believe you have some info to |
| 3645s | share on a video i think yeah so i |
| 3649s | i i had the luck of getting to |
| 3652s | play myself the other week along with a |
| 3654s | couple of the guys from steamforged and |
| 3656s | the lovely mod sphere over here |
| 3658s | um and there are some videos that i |
| 3659s | believe i'm told are now up on youtube |
| 3662s | as a sort of like |
| 3663s | rough how to play of the video of the |
| 3665s | board game with myself and spear playing |
| 3668s | through it for the first time |
| 3670s | it was |
| 3670s | it was a wild ride of a game it was |
| 3672s | great fun so i strongly recommend |
| 3674s | checking them out |
| 3677s | fantastic so yeah definitely check out |
| 3680s | the video guys it's exclamation mark rs |
| 3682s | kingdoms |
| 3684s | if you are into board games even if |
| 3685s | you're new to board games uh definitely |
| 3687s | check it out |
| 3688s | um you'll find all of the information |
| 3690s | with the command um and with that i |
| 3693s | think we're gonna wrap up for today's |
| 3695s | stream um so uh any final words guys |
| 3700s | before we do the announcements again |
| 3704s | thanks for watching yeah if you have any |
| 3706s | feedback on the |
| 3707s | on the ui stuff um you didn't get into |
| 3710s | the survey just just aim me on twitter |
| 3714s | nice |
| 3716s | okay guys so exclamation mark game |
| 3718s | update this week's game update was all |
| 3720s | about group iron man we've added |
| 3722s | unranked group iron man mode so you can |
| 3724s | team up casually with your pals we also |
| 3727s | have a very first group boss bash which |
| 3729s | is a competition that you can enter |
| 3732s | through the game um your group can take |
| 3734s | on old school's toughest foes and be in |
| 3736s | with a chance of winning a bunch of |
| 3738s | membership |
| 3739s | and then finally exclamation mark rs |
| 3741s | kingdoms we just showed you an awesome |
| 3743s | cgi trailer for a physical board game um |
| 3746s | we're so excited to share more |
| 3747s | information about that with you so make |
| 3750s | sure to check out all of the information |
| 3751s | about steamforged and the kickstarter |
| 3754s | which is starting on the 31st of may and |
| 3756s | with that we will say goodbye to you |
| 3758s | guys |
| 3759s | goodbye we'll see you next time |
| 3772s | oh |