[2020] Combat Achievements Poll Blog

Originally posted by globety1

I think some of the rewards need to be rebalanced, but overall happy

• Why do people get teleports, even just 3, to the Godwards Dungeon upon completing just the easy combat diary while it takes completion of the ELITE diary to get to Mor-Ul-Rek, arguably an easier place to reach with a fairy ring next to it?
• Offhand melee weapon seems a bit weird considering we already have defenders, no love for range/magic?
• Scaling on the requirements for the achievements is kinda weird too. Medium requires Monkey Madness 2? Elite requires Song of the Elves, which is only slightly harder than MM2 and DS2? The easy achievement requires 60+ combat and 50 slayer to access even though current easy diaries require usually only about lvl 20 or below in most stats? I think the easy combat achievements could be a bit more accessible, especially with 6 tiers.

Originally posted by Thanorpheus

but there is a clear gap in melee accuracy for the offhand slot

But why do you not consider Defenders to fill this?

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Originally posted by phalec

Ayiza this update was supposed to help address concerns for Ironmen, correct? So it makes 0 sense to lock 99.999% of HCIM out of it. Multi combat is fundamentally broken for accounts that risk so much. It's not a "high" entry fee, it is a complete barrier to entry for these accounts. Most UIMS won't use it either.

Even if Ecu keys were 100% drops this would still make it worthless for 2/3 ironman modes.

Originally posted by Fableandwater

Would you guys consider making something like solo TOB a grandmaster task? Or even mage only inferno, something along those lines

Edit: Why the downvotes?

Originally posted by Anoklumos

Hi Ayiza,

Thank you for commenting and keeping a close eye on this thread.

• " The cost to entry is high, but we'd rather propose something too high and scale it back based on feedback rather than the other way around. Open to your suggestions here on what seems fitting."

The main issue regarding this (for ironmen accounts), is that raw GP is a precious commodity almost brought into the game solely through high-alching. Because of this, Ironmen must often ration their gold toward valuable/necessary skills (like mage/construction), and simply cannot afford a cost such as this, nor can we liquidate items for raw GP in order to do so.

If there is a desire to maintain a GP cost for ironmen, please either reduce the cost considerably (to 25-50k at the most), or have the fee be instead removed from deaths coffer, where we can get GE value for additional/duplicate items in some form.

• "Lots of talk around removing the Ecumenical key requirement. We hear you. I assume even with the increased drop rate as you complete the tiers you still think its too much?"

Absolutely. Ecumenical keys not only exclude two game modes almost entirely; UiM and HCIM (without considerable risk), but likewise simply re-balances where crashing takes place; Ironmen can still easily be crashed while farming Ecumenical keys if a main desires the world.

Additionally, if there is a reduced/removed cost outside of the key (making instances more accessible to mains), the competition for key-farming worlds will only increase, and will thus simply front-load the same crashing culture into another stage of GWD (While collecting keys, instead of while fighting the boss itself).

I honestly think the Ecumenical key requirement is the most dangerous and exclusive component of this proposal (outside of the extreme/excessive GP requirement for irons).

Thank you for your time, and we all appreciate your presence and voice in this discussion.

Originally posted by SoulcryRS

Forcing irons to pay and collect keys to have a fair playing field at doing a boss at a considerably lower efficiency is a slap in the face. How did you want us to respond other than being outraged?

Originally posted by Designer_B

I don't think it needs clarifying

Why on earth wouldn't this need clarifying? You specifically mention in the blog you've heard the player base talking about these issues recently. This would cause me to assume you've taken it into consideration. Not ignore it like it'll just go away like you have.

Originally posted by SoulcryRS

I agree there is good discussion happening, and I'm glad you're out here to take the feedback, sincerely. I just know for a lot of irons paying steep fees in both time and gp to do content that for main accounts is free and much easier is kind of a low blow. I hope you and the Oldschool team can maybe consider other options in a separate poll or blog, as it seems the rest of the blog is spectacular!

Originally posted by geobosskuyaker

very glad that there will be a second iteration before the poll goes live. If that is likely it might make sense to open the blog with that to avoid the nasty reactions from some people in the future. TY for following up on this and as others have said we are glad that y'all are working to improve the game.

Originally posted by rRMTmjrppnj78hFH

Its kinda odd how the only combat related reward is melee only when many of the achievements are likely going to require mage/range to complete.

I don't think the off hand should just be given mage/range accuracy, but some sort of usable reward for mage/range is hopefully considered.

Will the slayer levels be hard reqs? or general suggested like def?

Originally posted by slimyfishy12

jagex and forcing access to pve content through the wilderness, name a more iconic duo.

I don't mind paying a large amount of gp for an instance, but forcing keys for it, even with increased drop rates, is ridiculous in my opinion.

Originally posted by Ramo029

Whoever wrote this blog: it’s ecuMeNical, not ecuNeMical keys. Thought it was a typo but looks like every mention of the word is spelled the same. Kind of funny that whoever wrote this has been saying the word wrong this whole time lol

Originally posted by ardentAeronaut

Will previous boss killcounts auto-complete their tasks? Or will each count task have to be done from scratch

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Originally posted by AReally_Cool_Hat

I don't think I've seen this anywhere but will the tasks be retroactively completed or is everything a fresh start? I've got 5k Kraken KC with its collection log completed and I doubt I will ever want to go back

Originally posted by TwitchV2Jay

u/JagexAyiza Will any Kill count obtained prior to the combat achievements be considered for completetion? So if I guess 100 jad KC would be a task and go ahead and do that would i be wasting my time? Also the same question for PB times. Thank you :O