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Normally I never get into the drama of stupid idiotic updates but im throwing my hat into this one trying to hopefully aid in some kind of change like we've seen in the past. Why the heck would you nerf oddments. Something not ONE SINGLE PLAYER wanted touched and increase the amount of keys we can get like they're doing us a favor? That doesn't offset things at all!

Instead why couldn't they have left oddments alone completely...left the key purchase cap alone completely....and just updated the oddments store that hasn't been touched in years?? Put other things in the store! Make us not want to buy keys as much! In cases like this you should add things that are MORE desirable for us to want to save for and buy instead of taking away our spending power pretty much completely....Shouldn't that much be common sense? (I know I know its not something these people normally have) but its really not that hard

Just update the oddments store jagex....Add some new cosmetics that look amazing or the skilling outfit pieces or SOMETHING put alittle bit of effort and creativity into the store! Of course it would get stale over time as people buy the things they want and lose interest in the rest. Thats why you update it every so often and keep it fresh!

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10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by Captainmervil

The biggest difference between RS3 and OSRS is quite honestly just leadership.

If you go on X/Twitter and ask Mod Ash or any of the other mods how content or changes are decided upon you get quite a detailed response which shows they really take care before making said decision.

RS3 mods on the other hand you get the extremely poorly recieved *Hero Pass* that literally no one asked for and when someone like Mod Doom is questioned about what the next road map is going to be his response was " Hmmm, I don't know - after the last roadmap, you can understand my trepidation..."

Proof here - https://twitter.com/JagexDoom/status/1742911259287388330

Now im sorry but this shows a clearly differing stance on how the two groups view their community because OSRS constantly ask for feedback whereas RS3 is just content doing whatever they want and only removing stuff if it gets enough negative traction.

It's SO painfully obvious the RS3 devs/mods have absolutely zero respect for it's community and is surviving purely off of the back of whales and it's OSRS team to keep the RS3 version running.

It should come as a surprise to NO ONE that they have continued to make poor update after poor update when show such clear contempt for it's players and are so painfully clearly just clocking in for a pay check they are trying to prolong by jamming more nonsense into the game rather than creating a game that will last for another decade instead.

You've very rightly identified the biggest difference there, being that Mod Ash is Product Manager for Old School RuneScape, and I'm a Community Manager. Product Manager is a long ol' way up the ladder from where I'm sat! It would be a great privilege to get to Product Manager level one day, where I can have a much greater impact and make big, scary decisions about the general future of RuneScape - but I'm not quite sure I'm there yet!

I'm very sorry that you feel the way you do, but I still try my best even when I'm here at the grass-roots level with the community every day. I was singlehandedly managing the community during Hero Pass, with the other CMs out of action. I think I earned the right to make the occasional light-hearted comment about my experiences looking back at it. I won't hear any attempts to imply that I'm not committed, passionate and sincere in every interaction. It's just not true.

The Jmods on this project absolutely have respect for this community, and introducing the Community Hitlist project was one of the best things I could have done this past year. Seeing mods actively engaging with players, getting feedback, showing off their work early and pushing the game forward with loads of tweaks, fixes and QoL changes that players have asked for for years is an incredible show of commitment to this game's players and its future.

I'm always happy to answer questions about decisions and changes I have made, of course, but what I actually get to decide on is very limited. I'm still trying to get you, and the entire RuneScape playerbase, the answers you deserve, and I'm still hoping I can get them to you soon. Have a great day.

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

I absolutely agree that an update to the Oddment store is a fantastic idea - it's something I've been working with a few of the team on for a while now! (Remember back in May I asked about what missing cosmetics you'd like to see make a comeback? The Superhero items that showed up during Halloween were on that list, among many others...)

It's something that's on our radar, and something that this wider conversation around Oddments has reignited discussions on. So I'll keep raising it and let's hope we can share news of an Oddments store update in the near future!

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by doublah

Just re-add the Yak Coin Shop items to the oddment store, seems like Jagex forgot about them after removing Yak Track.

An excellent suggestion, we've got a treasure trove of items there that we should be celebrating and putting back in the spotlight!

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by 5-x

Another example: still waiting for the cherry blossom pack to return...

It's not been spring since I asked, remember...

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by errantgamer

"I'm very sorry that you feel the way you do"

It's not me, it's you...

It's clearly how this person feels, and it makes me feel sad. So I'm sorry that they feel that way. I can't make them not feel that way - I can try and do what I can to help assuage those feelings, but their feelings are their own. Hope that makes sense.

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by toddhoppus

Doom, no one is questioning your commitment and passion, we can feel it. You are a Shauny-Tier CM.

I think I earned the right to make the occasional light-hearted comment about my experiences looking back at it.

And I agree.

The problem is your light-hearted comment was a slight at the community. It takes the failure of the last roadmap/battlepass off of Jagex, and blames the reaction of the community.

And I think that is a reflection of Jagex as a company. They blame the failure of the HeroPass on the players for not receiving it well, instead of blaming themselves for trying to release it in the first place.

I know you probably meant for your comment to be light hearted, but not every player will take it that way, especially due to the past circumstances of the last roadmap, and the current circumstance of no roadmap.

(Again I think you're doing a fantastic job)

I appreciate the kind words, and the detailed breakdown of everything.

There was absolutely no slight intended! To be clear, the team absolutely acknowledged the difficult launch of Hero Pass as our mistake, not the players, but I appreciate that it doesn't do much to assuage the concerns that you understandably have right now. The frustrations that you feel are totally valid and I feel them too. Once we share an update with a look at what we're aiming for in 2024, I think I deserve a holiday... 😂

10 months ago - /u/JagexDoom - Direct link

Originally posted by believe_in_u39

Kinda defeats the purpose when oddments will be so difficult to obtain now. I would address that issue, before adding a bunch of cosmetics to it. Otherwise you will just have Solomons shop 2.0

I promise I definitely raised that point! Makes sense to update oddments and the oddments store side by side. I can certainly hope that we can get a fresh new look for the oddments store soon!