Mod_Stevew

Mod_Stevew



24 Feb

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Originally posted by Vaynnie

Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.

I'm guessing you're not able to see the original trade where I put my whip onto the account, then? As that would show it wasn't malicious, just a mistake. But again, thank you, even if it amounts to nothing I'm just happy that you looked into it for me. :)

From memory I think it was trades of a whip, fury, d boots and about 700k gp from the hijacked acc to yours that triggered the initial investigation and subsequent ban. Anyway I've heard back from the Anti-Cheating Team, whilst it is unusual to remove a ban for hijacking, we both agree to allow common sense to prevail in this outlier case and as such the account has now been unbanned.


23 Feb

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Originally posted by Vaynnie

Clearly we got things wrong here, no excuses, when that happens we should admit it and try to stop it happening again, so that's what we'll do.

If that’s the case then will you look into my ban from 2007 which was falsely applied by an automated system, and has had the appeal denied ever since? I would appreciate it very much.

I’m sure you can agree your automated systems 14 years ago were not 100% foolproof, yet since the offence is “account hijacking”, your team has refused to even look at it.

FWIW: no account hijacking took place whatsoever.

I will donate £50 to a charity of your choice if you actually look into it and it turns out I’m lying.

RSN is “Daftndopy”. Cheers. I don’t know what info your system would’ve logged so if you need context of what actually happened please do PM me.

It's an old ban but there is evidence that you accessed an account that is not yours and your account benefited from one sided trades from that other persons account - if that was a friend allowing you access it is unfortunate, it would have been far better for them to log in to their own account and trade you. Normally we would allow a second chance on a ban that old, the issue is the ban is tagged as account hijacking and those bans never get any appeal options or second chances. Given the ban is 13+ years old, it looks more like a share gone wrong than a hijacking and you are still actively playing and not linked to wide scale account hijacking - I've asked for a second opinion, no guarantees but keep an eye on the account.

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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Yes I've changed it, see my edit.

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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I'm not sure why I have so many messages to answer then ?

Edit: OK I see it 'only trusted users' I'll change that

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Originally posted by Yerrold

How about removing automatic mutes for a game predominantly played by 20-40 year olds that already has an in-built profanity filter?

There are no automatic mutes for profanity

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Originally posted by vangoloid

Jmods sure love to pick and choose what topics to reply to to make them look good

Not sure how admitting we messed up and muted a player unfairly makes us look good but hey ...

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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I have 26 new DM's - not sure why some people can't message me ?

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Originally posted by B-Glasses

Ok but what happened to the other player that baited the mute?

I'm not sure I can say too much about other peoples accounts but Karma is a thing and has been restored.

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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If you have an account in mind that has been muted, had an appeal denied and did not say anything in the evidence that warrants a mute then pls DM me the RSN

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Originally posted by [deleted]

Maybe it shouldn't take a reddit post most of the time to get any sort of review on an appeal.

It doesn't - this issue was resolved at appeal with no intervention from me, I have added some feedback for the staff involved etc. but the appeal process did work

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Originally posted by motoman861

Thank you for responding. I agree this is the outlier in that regard, but can you tell us how many people check these appeals as you threw out rhe 500k number for requests, It would be nice to know how much time they actually get to check them. I broke it down with the estimate of 5 people checking to 50 appeals per hour based on the number you gave. Is that close?

500k is the total contact volume to support - offence appeals for mutes are just a (small) part of that, they are a much smaller volume, they are done within a few hours of being submitted and staff take as as long as they need to review each one

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Originally posted by motoman861

He skimmed it and saw the offensive word and approved, but how didn't he see that it was the guy whose name was ******** out? That's negligent oversight at minimum

That is pretty much it - it's a little unusual, the person being racist reported the innocent person, so race hate language was in the chat but it was not from the person the report was about - that said it is not an excuse - but that does look like what has happened, on seeing the hate text the offence was applied without noticing that the suspect was the player on the innocent side of the conversation and the hate chat was from the reporter.

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Originally posted by jeef16

I've also never seen a developer run their customer support through popular reddit posts, but hey, thats runescape

.. Although in this instance the support was obtained through the support channels and not here.

Look I could have ignored the post entirely, and then we get a load of 'Jagex don't care/won't post' type sentiment, or post and then get allegations of 'the only way to get help is on Reddit'.

By engaging here I had the best intent, it looked to me like we had messed up, that isn't typical of what we do so I wanted to help if I could - as it turns out the player was able to get the help they needed through appeal anyway - but I didn't know that at the time of my original response.

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Originally posted by TolkienAwoken

So a human read this conversation, and muted the wrong person?

Yes, I'd imagine a mis-click, either way some sort of human error

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Originally posted by TolkienAwoken

Doesn't matter what the ban/mute is, how the f**k does this even happen, and why does it need an actual person to appeal? 8+ hours for something that the system shouldn't have registered in the first place is way too long.

it's not a system mute, it was applied (wrongly) from human review of an abuse report

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Originally posted by TolkienAwoken

Something like this should've never triggered a ban, and nonetheless not taken 8+ hours to get appealed. Utterly insane.

This was a mute not a ban

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Originally posted by [deleted]

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He got the help without this post or me ...

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I now have the RSN - the player did appeal the mute at 3.24 am UK time, we got to that appeal and processed it at 11.21 am the same day. The mute and offence was incorrect and the appeal was granted. It looks like human error, but I have raised it as feedback with the J Mod who applied the original offence.

Clearly we got things wrong here, no excuses, when that happens we should admit it and try to stop it happening again, so that's what we'll do.

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Originally posted by The_Fapastic_4

I havent had chance to say this to any Jmods so here's my opportunity.

OSRS has made this pandemic 100% more bearable over here in the States. Thanks for the great content guys!

Oh and happy late Birthday Oldschool!!! 🎂🥳🙌

Aww thanks - nothing to do with me but I'll pass that on to the devs - stay safe 'n' Scape :)

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Originally posted by TheKhaoticRaven

I love you Steve. What’s your favorite quest?

Not a quest guy tbh, slowly ticking off skill capes and doing my dailies is all time allows for unfortunately