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I hope there is actually q list of exemplary players n not players who sit in clan chats. You guys should create a random acc n test your next p mods
Clan chat membership / activity is not even in the initial P Mod checks ....
I hope there is actually q list of exemplary players n not players who sit in clan chats. You guys should create a random acc n test your next p mods
Clan chat membership / activity is not even in the initial P Mod checks ....
Why would you demod his account? Surely it's not vulnerable forever because it got hijacked once... right?
Because we don't know exactly why it was hijacked, for all we know the owner could be sharing it - there is no reason for us to accept any risk of our players being muted unfairly and we'd rather offer the role to the next person on the (long) waiting list instead of retaining a p mod account with a known historical security breach.
This P Mod account was hijacked for about 4 hours. We secured the account so the owner could recover it and removed any mutes issued in that time, most of which were actually OK but there were some malicious ones as well. The longest anyone was unfairly muted in this incident was 1 hour.
It's a really unfortunate incident, but hijacking of P Mod accounts does happen from time to time and we act swiftly as soon as we become aware of it, we also check P Mod account security once a week to ensure they remain secure.
We have demodded this account, but I would ask that if you see the player in game not to hate on them - although everyone has a responsibility to keep their account details secure, the context is it was a hijacker and not the account owner that caused the issues for other players.
Thanks
if u recruit 100 a month and there are currently 2,364 P Mods ur attrition rate is abysmal and that alone should signal red flags about the system in place.
like your system is seriously f**ked up if both those numbers u stated are true. That gives me chills to think that many mods get dropped(lets hope it isnt for abuse).
We haven't always recruited 100 a month, and P Mods also stop playing or have other reasons to leave, it isn't always abuse! In addition, just because we invite 100 it doesn't mean 100 accept.
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Let's agree to disagree. Thanks for your comments.
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Looks like our recruitment process is working as intended then.
Hey Mod_Stevew, please check your reddit messages!
I don't seem to have a message from you ?
Here’s a vid sir pugger did on pmods being sold off or rented out. A lot will mute a competitor for rule breaking (valid) but simply say they didn’t see the other spammers (a lie)
Of course it's possible and I don't live in some ivory tower where all P Mods are perfect and never take advantage, but there are other explanations such as a new P Mod who can't yet mute, muting by chat watch not a P Mod or the P Mod just didn't mute for some unknown reason (they are under no obligation to do so).
Yes I'm saying that's what happened. They were removed as a moderator but as far as any mute or ban, they should also receive a mute and/or ban instead of just losing their crown. They are supposed to be champions of the community so they need to made more accountable than the average player seeing as they go through a pretty rigorous process to get that crown.
In short, there is no excuse for them to NOT know the rules and should they violate those roles, they should be punished more harshly when they have that crown removed. As it stands right now, if they pull my above scenario, their crown is the only thing they lose and can continue being toxic. My scenario has shown me that losing a crown and Pmods getting preferential treatment aren't mutually exclusive.
Thanks for the context, I would have thought that losing P Mod status would be more of a deterrent than a mute, and some might consider it being 'punished twice for the same offence' - point taken though, thanks for clarifying.
I am a strong advocate of rs3 myself. Unfortunately, I am always unable to travel to the UK for runefest (sucks to be me).
I see no harm in it as a once a year adhoc method of identifying new P Mods.
I agree but people wanting to become pmods because they're passionate for the game, feel that they're being stepped over by those who are able to attend runefest. Some people who don't attend (like me) are simply unable to, not that we don't want to.
I get that, but be assured the normal recruitment still goes on, the RF invites are additional to the usual process - not in place of it :)
usually they dont sell the accounts they just sell the 'pmod service' and mute other competing spammers
How do you know they are not just muting rule breaking? It seems a bit like if a P Mod didn't mute, they'd be slated for 'not doing their job' and if they do mute then 'they are being paid to mute by competitors'. If anyone knows of a P Mod selling mutes, do let me know!
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Just because you haven't been contacted, it doesn't mean you haven't been considered - it's possible you failed P Mod checks
Pmods are basically chosen by existing pmods passing on names on players and then they run checks on those accounts. If they pass all the checks an invite is sent out.
Not true, recommendations make up a tiny percentage of invites, and is only open for very limited periods - ask any P Mod you meet!
How helpful is having pmods anyways? No matter what time of day I log into world 301 or 302 there is always bots spamming garbage at the ge. You’d think with enough mods just a quick check in every now and then could help quiet down all the spam.
Not to mention all the mod accounts sold off to gold sellers and rwts to mute competing services...
Please let me know of any P Mod accounts that have been sold
Then i guess you’re not aware of how many people they promoted after Runefest- from the Runefest attendees, friends of Jmods and within their small friend circles. As there has been quite a few; at least of the ones in my own viscinity.
People are not chasing down Jagex as a company, but i believe they still are directly through certain Jmods and higher tier Pmods. 🙃
This year, about 30 people from RuneFest became P Mods, that happens once a year. We recruit about 100 players a month, every month of the year (including the RF month) from usual sources.
I know people who went to runefest and out of nowhere became pmods.
That is true, the RuneFest audience is is by definition a group of strong advocates with a real passion for the games, as long as we still do the usual P Mod checks on accounts and continue to recruit from the people who do not attend RuneFest, I see no harm in it as a once a year adhoc method of identifying new P Mods.
They need to be more strict on what loses you your pmod status. I have no problem with people intentionally being friendly and good mentors because they want a cool piece of fashionscape, the problem comes in how they usually act after they get it. A good example is that pmod who sits in world 1 (he changes his name a lot but if you've been in world 1, you've seen him) and he does nothing but beg for money. Dude has amassed multiple party hats by just sitting around begging, and while that technically isn't against the rules, it isn't something a pmod should be allowed to do. Obviously some people donate thinking he's a pmod and it's some kind of purity test, maybe they'll get something back if they do. The whole thing comes off as really shady and dishonest.
Then there is obviously the archetype of people who lord their pmod status over people and mute others over simple disagreements in chat, that's a more obvious example of something that shouldn't fly.
Let me know who that P Mod is please, thanks.
In the past I encountered so many pmods, but nowadays i see none of them, I thought jagex removed the pmod system, until i saw this post
At the time of writing, there are 2,364 P Mods across both games, with a slight bias to OS
To me it seems that JMods just pick friends from their clan to be PMod. I know a recently departed JMod definitely did this
That isn't part of our recruitment process, staff can obviously highlight players that they think would be good P Mods, but it accounts for a very small % of the P Mod team as a whole
Read moreI feel like random RS Youtubers and well know RS players shouldn't get a crown JUST for their status, only if they are helpful and accurate in their reporting. To make them more accountable, I think there need to be ramifications for Pmods not doing their duty as expected.
For toxic Pmods, I think not only should they lose their crown but they would need a lengthy mute. This would make them consider their actions instead think their crown gives them immunity. As it stands, having a crown does seem to give them preferential treatment and they don't get punished for breaking rules as their crown serves as a get out of jail free card.
For mods that go inactive, they don't need to be punished but they will still have their crown taken away but can also request to be reinstated seeing as they haven't broken any rules.
All in all, Pmods do need to be more held accountable. I can remember a Pmod bad mouthed me on the RSOF and made sure to add me in game just to b...
You are saying P Mods get preferential treatment and have a 'get out of jail card' but then go on to say we removed someone from being a P Mod within a day of them causing an issue for you ....