[2023] Another lackluster "update"

To a large extent TFP is trying to deliver their vision of the game, a game that they've always said, they wanted to make and play themselves. This focus has been pretty consistent from the games earliest days, and has guided them throughout (you can argue whether it has well guided them, since that would be a matter of opinion not fact).

That said, they have always tried to provide a platform which modders could use to expand on the game, or even, as is often the case with overhaul mods, fundamentally change some or even all of it's basic foci.

Alpha 21 does a lot of that - it's not up front and in your face like new content would be - but it allows for further, deeper and more meaningful modifications to the game going forward which will be of benefit to the modding community.

For me personally, I think that's fantastic, since the longevity of the game will ultimately rest, long past post-Gold and ongoing support, down the years, in the hands of the modding community.

Can we please keep the conversation on the topic of the thread, not on throwing insults around. I've gone and deleted some posts. Feel free to re-post without the ad hominem.

Originally posted by Jezz: its sad and depressing that the closer the game gets to "the devs vision" the less I want to play it.

I maintain a very active Alpha 11 game, which I have extensively modified over the years. There's nothing wrong with not liking the direction a game progresses through EA, there's no guarantee you will like every phase of its development implied in the EA agreement either.

Fortunately, and this is not something most Devs do, TFP have given you the option to revisit prior Alphas all the way back to Alpha 8 (easily via Steam, some earlier ones are still available but with a bit more effort).

So, if Alpha 20/21/22 isn't making your socks roll up and down, there's always the option to go back to prior Alpha's and relive good old times if that's your thing.

Originally posted by Eroge Game Enjoyer:

Originally posted by Bobaloui:
You don't find it strange to crap on devs while also putting modders on a pedestal?

The guys who changed your vehicles wheels to put on some bigger ones are the real MVP, and not the guys who MADE THE VEHICLE?

Stamina regen was spread out so that players can have more choice with skills. No matter what melee build you choose currently, you'll need strength just to have stamina.

"fundamental problem of weapons balance" Pretty hefty thing to gloss over isn't it? Sure each weapon isn't perfectly balanced, but they're all viable. If anything, a few weapons like batons and spears need buffed to be competitive with the others. Care to explain what you think the problem is? Certainly would've been something actually useful to put in your OP.

I'm sure the devs decide to play their own game sometimes, sure. They also READ AND WRITE THE CODE that makes the game what it is. It might be fun to take your Porsche out for a spin sometimes, but that's very different from BUILDING ONE.

If it feels like they're only fixing half the problem now, it's probably because they plan to fix the other half later, since y'know... the game isn't done. But what do i know, i only smoke copium amirite?

Yeah you are on copium. You immediately run to a passive aggressive tone in your argument for what, because you're angry someone else isn't absolutely in love with the game? You think taking 6 months + to figure out that sexual tyrannosaurus needed a change and then offering a change that only fixed half of the problem with the perk. Now what? We wait another 6 months for them to figure out the other half? That is some slow problem solving you're ok with. World must be in slow motion for you with those time frames.

No, he's pointing out how ludicrous it is.

Especially when you're sitting here making statements as if you actually know how everything is already coded and balanced out in a21. Did someone give you access to the internal builds? I'm sure I can poke a dev and get that fixed.

Most of your statements are based on pure speculation. You might try to argue your point from that standpoint instead of pretending they are all facts.