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Nothing of this applies to any other sort of Fame outside of Combat PvE Fame: there is no relationship between Fame Credits and crafting, gathering, farming, PvP, or any other sort of Fame.
So, when I talk about "Fame" in this article, I'm specifically talking about Combat PvE Fame.
Quick Summary
TL;DR
- Fame by Fame, you earn less levels per Fame earned with Fame Credits farming, even with Auto-Respec on
- However, you'll be using a set that is full spec/mastery, so you'll have much more IP
- Potentially, you'll also be using a set that is specialized in Fame Farming, boosting the gains even more
- You need to farm 25% more Fame with the full-set if using Auto-Respec to match the base rate of just using the set you want to level, or about 5x as much if you don't have Auto-Respec on
- If you want to level just one specific piece mastery OR spec, it can be as much as 65.5x faster for an off-hand, 13x faster for head/feet, ~6.5x faster for chest and ~3.25x faster for weapons (divide by two if you need to level mastery as well) using another full set
- The absolute fastest way to level something is to have it equipped and have everything else in the set at 100 spec/mastery, even without auto-respec, but if you have it off, you need to consider you're "wasting" a lot of progress on the rest of the gear
Earning
- You earn Fame Credits when you earn combat PvE fame while equipped with at least some gear that is at 100 mastery and/or spec
- You earn more Fame Credits for the "more important" gear pieces, in order: two-handed weapon, main-hand weapon, chest, head and feet, off-hand
- You earn both for Mastery and for Spec, so a piece with 100 spec and 100 mastery will give you double the Fame Credits
- You'll earn 4 times more Fame Credits if you turn on Auto-Respec (top bar of the Destiny Board), but you'll also pay Silver for it, roughly 1:1 Silver per Fame Credit
- All of the above also applies for fame tomes (both non-tradeable and tradeable)
- You can also accrue Fame Credits by downleveling existing specs, while also paying Silver for it (same 1:1 rate)
Spending
- You can use Fame Credits to increase any existing mastery or spec, and the same rate applies: "more important" pieces cost more
- This means it's super fast to use fully-leveled gear to spec one specific piece, more so when we're talking about less important pieces (you can get the Fame Credits to spec an off-hand 1-100 in less than 10 minutes)
Quick side tip for off-hands
The tip: Spec the non-artifact off-hand of the tree of your off-hand
- With most gear pieces, you get 2 IP for that specific piece and 0.2 IP for all pieces in the same tree for each level of spec.
- This isn't true for off-hands: you get 0.6 IP for all pieces for each level of spec of the non-artifact off-hand (tome of spells, shield or torch) whereas you get only 0.1 IP with any other spec in the tree.
- This means you can get 60 extra IP essentially free on any artifact off-hand by dumping some meager Fame Credits on the main off-hand of that tree
- In other words: if you use a muisec, spec your tome, if you use a mistcaller, spec your torch (and so on and so forth)
Details
Earning
- Whenever you gain Fame, you'll earn the exact same amount of Fame to every gear piece you're wearing, for both mastery and spec
- For example: you get 5000 Fame, your mastery node for the weapon tree will progress by 5000 Fame, the spec for that weapon will also progress by 5000 Fame, as will the mastery/spec for each other piece
- If any of those nodes are at level 100 or more, they won't accrue progress any more (since it's the maximum for mastery, or the last level before Elite for specs)
- Instead, the Fame these nodes would have accrued is instead transformed into Fame Credits
- If you have Auto-Respec on, you'll gain:
- 40% of the Fame as Fame Credits if it's a weapon node
- 20% of the Fame as Fame Credits if it's a chest node
- 10% of the Fame as Fame Credits if it's a head or feet node
- 2% of the Fame as Fame Credits if it's an off-hand node
- All of those apply for both mastery and spec nodes
- You'll pay roughly 1 Silver (in all my tests, it was 0.95 Silver) per Fame Credit you earn
- If you don't have Auto-Respec on, you earn 4 times less Fame Credits, but they're free
- You can also downlevel a node, withdrawing Fame Credits at the same rate as when they're applied (see the next section), and paying exactly 1 Silver per Fame Credit withdrawn; this is called "manual respeccing"
- Those apply to Fame tomes as well, with the same logic
Spending
- You can spend Fame Credits to level any combat node (mastery or spec) that you have at least 1 level on
- Each Fame Credit spent will net you Fame on that node's progress, according to the following rates (Fame Credits:Fame):
- 1:2 for weapon nodes
- 1:4 for chest nodes
- 1:8 for head or feet nodes
- 1:40 for off-hand nodes
- Spending Fame Credits doesn't increase your total Fame. The "Fame for killing mobs" is exactly that: the Fame you gain when you kill mobs. It has nothing to do with the Fame you have spread on your Destiny Board nodes.
- Nothing affects spending Fame Credits, outside of the rate. Namely, none of these matter: auto-respec, premium, avalon bonus or treaties
Putting things together
- If you do the math of multiplying the rate lists, you'll see that any node nets you exactly 80% of its Fame when going through the route of getting Fame Credits and spending on a different node of the same type (like getting Fame Credits with a Weapon node to spend on another Weapon node) with Auto-Respec on
- This means that using a full set you have 100 spec/mastery on vs the full set that you want to get mastery and spec will net only 80% of the total Fame (each node transfers exactly 80% to the equivalent node)
- However, when you are focusing on one specific node (either spec or mastery), you'll notice that you'll gain twice and only spend once, so if you gain Fame Credits from a weapon with 100 spec/mastery and spend only on the spec or only on the mastery for a different weapon/tree, you'll get 160% of the Fame
- This is more pronounced if you are earning with a high weight piece and spending on a low weight piece. Example:
- You get 10k Fame from eating a Tome while equipped with a weapon you have 100 spec/mastery and auto-respec On
- You'll get 4k (40%) Fame Credits from the mastery node and 4k (40%) Fame Credits from the spec node, totalling 8k Fame Credits (also, you'll pay ~7600 Silver)
- If you spend that on a spec node for an off-hand (1:40 rate), you'll progress 320k Fame on that node, which is literally 32 times what you just earned
- You can see the full math on the spreadsheet, but this is where those numbers I mentioned at the beginning come from, where I stated you can earn as much as 65x (it's more precisely 65.6x) when you're getting Fame with a full set at 100 spec/mastery and spending on a single off-hand node
- Note that Auto-Respec and Manual respec cost you roughly the same amount of Silver, the difference is that when you're doing manual respec, you're stagnant, whereas with Auto-Respec you're progressing (but you're either spending time to grind, or more silver to buy tomes)
- It's 20% slower to level a full set that you need mastery and specs on through another set at 100 spec/mastery, but the following two factors make it faster, often:
- You'll have more IP on the set with spec
- That set is specialized in Fame Farming, whereas the set you're leveling is not
- Those two factors sometimes make it faster to level through another set even if you're not paying for auto-respec (although you need to get 5x more fame/hour to compensate)
- It's always faster to level up one specific node by having that specific gear piece equipped and the rest of the set at 100 spec/mastery, even if you don't have auto-respec turned on (if you do, then it's much, much faster)
- When you're focusing on one specific piece, and you're using another full set to get the Fame Credits, it's always faster if you have Auto-Respec on, but if it's off, it's slower for weapons (82% of the speed), and faster for everything else.
- If, however, you need both mastery and spec, then it's considerably slower for weapons (41% of the speed), slower for chest (82%), but still faster for everything else (still 8.2 faster for off-hands, for example)
Main takeaways
- Auto-respec costs (a bunch of) silver, but it's generally faster to level a set through another set that you have 100 spec/mastery on with Auto-respec; that's made true by the higher IP and that set you have spec/mastery being specialized in Fame Farming (if it's not, it may be the case that it's not worth it anyway)
- The absolute fastest way of leveling a specific piece is having it equipped while the rest of the set is at 100 spec/mastery
- Without auto-respec on, only the above way is faster than just using the pieces you want to level - by raw Fame, not considering clear speed factors
- Using another full-set to level one specific piece (rather than a set) is generally faster
- The above is not true only if you
- Don't have auto-respec on
- AND
- It's a weapon, OR
- Need both mastery and spec and it's a Weapon or Chest
- When you don't have auto respec on, and you're focusing on one piece, you need to consider that you're "wasting" a good bunch of progress (even though it's faster for one specific thing, you lose progress on others)
Number crunching spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a9WStc3GJl8T6VWenu56KCBoobx71xxX4hECVqpLTGY/edit?usp=sharing
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