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| 7s | We are coming to the end of the show today. |
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| 9s | So we wanted to make sure we go out with a proper bang. |
| 12s | Or in our next guest case, an ancient battle |
| 15s | And what better way to do that than to talk ancient conquests with book |
| 18s | Big Men Studio Heads from Forgotten Empires. |
| 20s | Hello and welcome, Burt. |
| 22s | Hey, Charlie. Good to be back at Gamescom. |
| 24s | After all these years with vampires. Absolutely. Yeah. |
| 26s | And I tell you what, before we dove into anything, |
| 28s | I do want to ask you how good it feels to be back with the German fans, |
| 32s | because I know how much age really resonates with them. |
| 35s | It's amazing. |
| 36s | Like, there's such a massive fan base here in Germany like this, |
| 39s | walking around all the halls which are age, vampires, shirts. |
| 43s | Yeah, people are just stopping you. |
| 44s | Like, Wait, h where can I please can I find that? |
| 48s | And they actually they have stories to tell us. |
| 50s | Well, I played this for years. I played those kids. |
| 53s | I'm still playing it's. It's amazing. |
| 55s | It's such a such an amazing franchise. |
| 56s | And I have got to say, we did do a X-Box fan fest last night, |
| 60s | and I was over in the corner playing it for 90 minutes |
| 62s | instead of talking to anyone And I don't regret a second. |
| 65s | It feels at home when I'm playing. |
| 67s | It's, you know, it's just so lovely. |
| 69s | A warm, a perfect goose. Years of your time here. |
| 72s | Yeah, that's nice. Right. |
| 73s | Okay, let's dove into and start talking about from that. |
| 75s | So in the trailer we just saw, we saw that there are two new civilizations |
| 79s | on the way joining age high school, and they are the Ottomans and the Malians. |
| 82s | So we're going to talk about both them, |
| 84s | but I want to kick things off with the Ottoman. |
| 86s | So what have you got to tell us about the loads? |
| 89s | So good. |
| 89s | Let's let's start with the history because in the end, |
| 92s | everything and age of empires is ground to mastery, right? |
| 95s | Yeah. |
| 96s | So we're looking at the Ottoman Empire. |
| 98s | What's this all happening? |
| 99s | Anatolia in the Middle Ages. Yeah. |
| 102s | And yeah, if you think about that, there was an empire that lost a very long time. |
| 107s | It was very basic military and militaristic, very organized, |
| 111s | and a lot of military signs going on there. |
| 113s | Regiment, its army that's really controlled its |
| 116s | massive area in the Middle East for a very, very, very long time. |
| 120s | And then the question was, how do we turn that into a game? |
| 123s | How do we turn that into age of empires? |
| 125s | And it was really like, OK, we have all this military peace. |
| 129s | Yeah, that's |
| 130s | that sounds like something we can translate |
| 132s | and I actually want to dove straight into the gameplay. |
| 134s | OK, so for example, the Ottomans, they have the military school. |
| 139s | OK? Yes. |
| 139s | A brand new building they can build it in the dark age. |
| 143s | Straight from the beginning. Straight from the. Beginning. |
| 145s | I don't know what this building does. |
| 146s | You have a game changer that it's a media, I think actually. |
| 149s | A game changer. Absolutely. Absolutely. |
| 153s | So you built a military school and it's automatically trains the units |
| 157s | that you selects like have all toggles for old units in the ultimate roster. Wow. |
| 161s | And you can select which one you want to create for free. |
| 165s | I feel like there's a bus coming, though, right? |
| 167s | There is a. Bus going there. It's about coming. |
| 169s | Yes. The training goes very, very slowly. |
| 171s | OK, but I suppose the sacrifice of a slow training is Free Army. |
| 176s | You still get the Free Army, you. |
| 178s | The folks |
| 179s | who want to do the combat victories and you're not draining your resources. |
| 182s | You can just build this. |
| 184s | Wow, this massive empire meanies. |
| 187s | Everyone up. Exactly. |
| 188s | Yeah. |
| 188s | So it's and that's also kind of how the Ottomans play out. |
| 192s | Like you jump into the game as the Ottomans |
| 194s | and it's really all about the military |
| 196s | and the military conquest and the winning through very military means. |
| 200s | That's that's how you win as the ultimate. Yes. |
| 202s | Well, it's also myself with the Ottomans. |
| 203s | It's like the first time I played it like a pretty advanced version, though. |
| 207s | It's like you feel straight at home, |
| 210s | like you have plates, older age of empires for civilizations |
| 213s | and they're all quite different from each other. Yeah. |
| 215s | But you get the hang of it quite quickly, |
| 217s | so it's really resembles the rest you feel at home. |
| 219s | And so there's not a steep learning curve on it. |
| 221s | Not, not too much though. |
| 223s | OK, so could you tell us any more about any of the military units |
| 226s | or any of the buildings? Yes. |
| 228s | So we have the military school right that they kept straight |
| 231s | all the units and they have quite a few unique units as well. |
| 235s | First, they have the chancery |
| 237s | bit of a fan favorites like the tennis every was an age of empires |
| 240s | through wasn't much of a grocery. |
| 242s | It was always like the way that the Ottomans got their gunpowder |
| 245s | any earlier than any other civilization advantage. |
| 249s | Yeah, oh, yes. |
| 250s | And it's the same here. |
| 251s | And they went by source or continuing its tradition. |
| 253s | Yeah, they can built a general theory. |
| 255s | So hence kind of in the year that they create in the Castle Age. |
| 257s | So before anyone else so yeah, you can yeah. |
| 261s | Rush to your guns. |
| 262s | Yeah, they really do. |
| 263s | They definitely have that combat edge, right? Oh yes. Oh yes. |
| 266s | Saying amazing. |
| 267s | So what I want to know though is if I was to go over that piece over there |
| 271s | or when I play it when it comes out, what's the strategy behind them? |
| 274s | Is it literally just to build an empire constantly or is there a pace to it? |
| 279s | Right. How would you recommend find support? |
| 281s | There is definitely there is one completely novel thing |
| 284s | that the Ottomans have, |
| 285s | and it's the Imperial Council, and that's will play a big, big part |
| 289s | into your strategy and how you kind of play the organization. |
| 294s | The Imperial Council is kind of you built your empire |
| 297s | no matter how like researching technology is going to the next age training units, |
| 302s | you kind of gain experience. |
| 304s | I say experience points, you get visitors. |
| 307s | So who gets your empire and say, like, this has my approval, |
| 311s | I sell runs my services to you. |
| 315s | Yeah. |
| 315s | And those visitors can then say, OK, I'm going to give you a tactical advantage. |
| 319s | It's like, hey, |
| 321s | I'm going to make sure that you can conscript |
| 324s | some general service from the town centers and you can use those to your advantage. |
| 328s | In your next attack. |
| 329s | Oh, OK. |
| 330s | So it's really like you have to pick like, do I go for something more military, |
| 334s | go something more economical thing, more building up? |
| 337s | Yeah. A lot of options there. |
| 339s | And I go, You guys, let's do something a bit zany. |
| 341s | So is there anything a bit different about the Ottomans? |
| 343s | Any other characters we want to talk about? |
| 345s | There is definitely one unit that is a bit different from everything and. |
| 348s | I hope you're going to say why. I think you all. |
| 351s | We have the mess that are coming up and I apologize |
| 353s | for my Turkish accent there, but it is a it's a cavalry units. |
| 357s | Yeah, but it doesn't fight. |
| 359s | But he makes sure that people around him fight. |
| 361s | So it's that's a drummer or cavalry. |
| 364s | And depending on the beats he's drumming. Yep. |
| 367s | He kind of has an aura around him to improve nearby units. |
| 370s | OK, so if he's doing like metal music or drum and bass, |
| 373s | everyone's got a different vibe and go for. Yeah. |
| 375s | Yes, exactly. Like, I don't know yeah. |
| 378s | With rock music, you go faster with metal music, he gets a bit angry. |
| 381s | I'm not sure. |
| 381s | So it'd be like a dog buff, wouldn't it be like some, |
| 384s | like, Slipknot drums, all those. I mean. There you go. |
| 386s | There you go. |
| 387s | Very angry gemstones, thanks to you. But yes. |
| 389s | Very, very good. OK, wonderful. |
| 391s | So we're going to jump from them now to the Malians. |
| 394s | Did they have any little drummer boys? |
| 395s | But if not, what do they have going? |
| 397s | They have a lot, but a lot going for them. |
| 401s | I kind of want to start in the history again. |
| 403s | So 100% we said this is about history. |
| 405s | Let's always yes. |
| 407s | So when we look at the Malians, the Malian empire actually |
| 410s | was a massive empire in western Africa. |
| 415s | They're famous. |
| 415s | The most famous Malian ever was Mansoor Moussa. |
| 418s | And the reason he was so famous is because he was the richest man |
| 421s | to ever have left in the history of humanity. |
| 424s | Oh, wow. |
| 425s | Well, up until like even now or just up till now. |
| 427s | Up till now. |
| 428s | I just say this is be better than go into school. |
| 430s | I learned so much my history playing this game. It's it's sad. |
| 433s | There are stories about him that he went to. |
| 436s | He like to travel. |
| 437s | Yeah. Like |
| 438s | he like to trade with his trade caravan through the deserts and visits towns. |
| 442s | And he was known for going to those towns |
| 446s | spending so much gold because he had so much gold. |
| 449s | But he completely crushed the economy of every village that he passed. |
| 454s | So that's one something. |
| 455s | So anyway, |
| 457s | it's nice background to have because we're talking about all these goals. |
| 460s | Yeah. And the Malians are all about the goals. |
| 463s | When you build up |
| 464s | your empire, as the Malians have this special building called the Golden Pits, |
| 469s | and you can build it's on a gold mine |
| 472s | and then automatically extract schools from the gold mine. |
| 475s | Automatically, yes. |
| 477s | You don't need villagers. |
| 478s | And it also doesn't subtract gold from the gold mine. |
| 482s | So technically it's infinite gold. |
| 484s | And infinite gold hock. It is, yes. |
| 487s | But it's not a hack. It's actually you've just put it in the game. |
| 490s | It's it's all a bug. It's a feature. |
| 491s | So famous words. Yes. |
| 494s | That's huge, though, |
| 495s | especially for |
| 495s | some of the late game builds where gold comes into play really heavily. |
| 499s | Or if you're on a map as absolutely infested with enemies |
| 502s | and you can't get to the next gold mine that's. |
| 504s | That's humongous. Wow. There is a catch. |
| 507s | However, there's always, always, always the catch. |
| 509s | Spot. Yeah. I'm so sorry. |
| 511s | You all. |
| 512s | You can bill toast golden pit's like the pits mine. |
| 515s | Sorry, old. Map. |
| 517s | But you need to be able to protect them. |
| 519s | Well, of course. And that's that's quite difficult. |
| 521s | I feel like if I was an ultimate up against Somalia, |
| 523s | and I would go for that first. |
| 525s | You would, but then the ultimate strength to Russia. |
| 527s | And then what? So it's like this. |
| 529s | You gets the gold in the pit mines. |
| 533s | Sorry, yeah. All the way out in the map. |
| 535s | How are you going to protect? It's very, very hard. |
| 537s | This is where the strategy of the game. And this is where. |
| 540s | Yeah, exactly. |
| 541s | That's where you start to and fro. Exactly. Exactly. |
| 543s | Can you tell me any more about |
| 544s | any buildings or any new units we're going to see with the Malians units? |
| 548s | It's I we don't have time to go through all of them. |
| 551s | Unfortunately, every single unit for the Malians is different. |
| 556s | It doesn't they don't have a standard roster. |
| 558s | OK, I say that they have a standards archer. |
| 561s | That's it. |
| 562s | Give them an arch yeah. |
| 563s | Everything else is difference. |
| 564s | They for example, they have a Spearman that is actually done. |
| 568s | So is there a name? |
| 571s | It's unique. Spearman It's different. |
| 572s | Because he has two spheres now. I like them already. |
| 575s | You like them already. But there's more to it. |
| 578s | It's not just like he's fighting with two spears, |
| 580s | but he takes his first sphere, throws it yeah. |
| 583s | So the first arranged the attack, and then he can fight the rest of them. |
| 586s | And there's no other nation for him to go pick it out for anything. |
| 589s | Unfortunately, no. |
| 590s | It will be brilliant. I'd love to see that but. |
| 593s | All right. You miss any outcome. |
| 594s | God, like, let me go get it again. |
| 595s | Or if he misses, I'd like. I'll come. OK. |
| 598s | That's brilliant. |
| 599s | OK, I like the sound of that. Do we have time? Talk about buildings. |
| 601s | Are you going to give me something on buildings? |
| 602s | I only get 41 more units and one more building |
| 605s | because they're actually very interesting. |
| 606s | One, we have the musafa. |
| 608s | The Musafa, the is a |
| 612s | it's kind of a hunter unit, OK? |
| 615s | And her special ability is that she is she can go into stealth mode. |
| 620s | Oh, interesting. All right. |
| 622s | So it's kind. |
| 622s | Of this method arm units that can go into stealth mode, |
| 625s | sneak around the map everywhere and then just like surprise attack. |
| 628s | Oh, we're talking like fog of war style for when when they're in forest units. |
| 632s | It's style for. |
| 634s | So yeah, it's fun by starting this has a stealth force. |
| 636s | But this this unit, she can go into stealth anywhere on the. |
| 640s | Map, anywhere OK, as. |
| 641s | Soon as she attacks, of course, she reveals herself so well. Yeah. Yeah. |
| 644s | It sounds like ghost spoken. You were in the. |
| 646s | Fight, ghost? No, no, no. |
| 648s | Then they reveal. Themselves. |
| 650s | Yeah. |
| 650s | But, yeah, that's that's kind of the story behind the hunter. |
| 653s | The Hunter woman actually. |
| 655s | Musafa do you like in Malian four power woman So we have a. |
| 660s | Lot there we go. |
| 661s | Yes. OK, and you say that they're aligned with a building and game as well? |
| 665s | Yes, indeed. |
| 666s | So they're hunters. |
| 667s | Yes. That's kind of their background. |
| 669s | And you can also one of the landmarks that you can built is the Hunter Fortress |
| 674s | and every |
| 675s | infantry unit that is kind of around this fortress. |
| 679s | Also goes into stealth mode. |
| 682s | So I don't even know what say about that. |
| 683s | Is that something you found in your historical |
| 686s | that people would disappear around it? |
| 687s | What was the logic behind adding that. |
| 689s | The story is kind of like they were hunters. |
| 691s | If you want to hunt, say yeah to yeah, hunter prey you. |
| 694s | Of course you need to be sneaky. You need to be fit. |
| 696s | Exactly. Yeah. |
| 698s | And that's kind of the story behind that. |
| 700s | It's very interesting. To play with. |
| 701s | Yeah. No, I can imagine. |
| 702s | I'm thinking about this is me imagining be playing the game now. |
| 705s | If you were to go and attack that base, you'd see this stealth fortress |
| 709s | and you would have no idea what was waiting for you. |
| 712s | Absolutely no idea the limits |
| 713s | of how many people you could hide in that radius to know they're gone. |
| 716s | Yep. Yep. |
| 718s | Amazing. |
| 718s | So we spoke a little bit. |
| 720s | Well, I should say we spoke quite a lot about mountains, not birds. |
| 722s | Sounds like there's more to come, but they are the new age of empires. |
| 727s | But the list is pretty long. |
| 728s | Of how many civilizations there are now, right? Yes. |
| 730s | We were not all within that civilizations. |
| 733s | So we had eight civilizations that launched last year. |
| 736s | We have the the English, the French the Mongols, Chinese, |
| 741s | many more in Europe and Asia. |
| 743s | And now we're expanding to Africa |
| 745s | with Somalians and the Middle East with the Ottomans. |
| 747s | You're probably going to say these 271. |
| 749s | I'm curious, do you have any personal favorites |
| 752s | or any civilizations you think you play the most? |
| 754s | I you know what I mean? |
| 757s | I really, really loved to play this thing each the Malians. |
| 761s | OK, this one more that I really, really loved about playing them. |
| 765s | I built this whole empire, right, with all of my |
| 768s | my trade through it's my gold mines, my little mining towns. |
| 771s | Yeah. |
| 772s | And at the end of the game, OK, I won't again say I'm not bragging. |
| 775s | But a win win. |
| 777s | My regards to the win |
| 779s | I. I looked at my empire at the end of the game and I was like, this looks good. |
| 783s | This actually looks like a big Malian empire. |
| 787s | And it felt so good that you've built something. |
| 789s | Yeah, you destroyed something. Of course. |
| 791s | Yeah. |
| 791s | But, like, the victory felt even better. |
| 794s | Yeah. |
| 794s | No, I think such it goes a very long way. |
| 797s | I would love for you to start grading us on the aspect. |
| 800s | I'm very purposeful when I build about where I put everything. |
| 803s | So I'm like, Oh, a normal village would have a house here. |
| 805s | I know what I'm going to do. |
| 806s | My little housing area in a little suburb and whatnot. |
| 808s | So. Exactly. I'm totally with you on that one. |
| 811s | Yeah, I totally agree. |
| 811s | The way that you can just build and create very realistic, authentic villages. |
| 815s | Yes. Is incredible. |
| 817s | I do want to touch a little bit, though, |
| 819s | on the fact that it has been ten months since Age of Empires Fall came out. |
| 823s | How much is a game evolved since that. |
| 825s | Relic and older dev partners have been incredibly busy. |
| 829s | So there have been many updates, many patches in many various ways. |
| 834s | Like we've had features, new features coming in like we have had |
| 837s | color pictures for people, we had more removable hotkeys, |
| 841s | we've had loads of balance changes, we had new maps, |
| 845s | you zoom levels like I yeah, loads. |
| 848s | The list just goes on and on and on. |
| 850s | And I'm going to take us back in time. |
| 852s | Now, if there's anyone out here |
| 853s | who didn't know that Age Vampires was first released in 1997. Yes. |
| 857s | And I'm curious how the developers keep building on a franchise |
| 861s | to keep it new and fresh when the focus is on history. |
| 864s | It's just so incredible. |
| 866s | It's I mean there's just |
| 867s | so much world history and anything goes in the age of empires. |
| 871s | It's like if it's, if it happens, we can probably put this in the game in some way. |
| 874s | Yeah. |
| 875s | And if we're just looking at the last 12 months like we've had the release of age |
| 880s | one by four, we've had two expansions through the season, four of them |
| 884s | by through Definitive Edition and to the Elks for age one by three. |
| 887s | That's in the definition now. |
| 888s | So it's clear that you've got definitive editions as well. |
| 891s | It's people want so much age. |
| 893s | People want so much age. |
| 895s | There's more and more age to come. |
| 897s | So that's we've got that squared away. |
| 899s | And it's also thinking about like the franchise has been going on since 1997. |
| 903s | 25 year anniversary. |
| 905s | Right exactly. Yeah. Yes. |
| 907s | The fact that like this is if anything |
| 910s | the best time to join the age of empires because there's just so much going on. |
| 914s | So even if you're like, hey 25 years, I've never tried it, try it. |
| 918s | Now I will. |
| 919s | Say it's a very wholesome game, but the community |
| 921s | that's deeply devoted and love the game so much and I wanted to ask |
| 925s | what it's like to work on a franchise that is not only positive. |
| 929s | We've seen so many games just on the show today that everyone loves |
| 931s | is very positive, but you're with someone that's been positive for 25 yes. Yes. |
| 935s | People love it. What's that like? |
| 937s | I mean, it's amazing. |
| 938s | Like just looking at my own personal history, |
| 942s | I've been working on the game for ten years now. |
| 944s | I started to play the game when I was ten years old. |
| 947s | If you told ten year old me that I would be sitting here today, |
| 950s | I wouldn't have believed this. I'm going to. |
| 951s | Say, Do you tell ten year old me I'd be sitting here talking about it? |
| 954s | I, I'd weep and I wouldn't believe it, but I'd probably ignore |
| 958s | you and keep playing go. |
| 959s | So and that's and that's the beauty about it. Like that. |
| 961s | The community is so large, so vibrant, so. |
| 964s | Active, yeah. Yeah. |
| 965s | It's, it's just, it's just amazing. |
| 967s | It really is. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a tree. |
| 970s | So what we're going to do |
| 971s | is going to talk a little bit now about looking ahead new stuff like that |
| 975s | and how these civilizations are introduced. |
| 977s | So you're dealing with ancient armies and deciding which ones to add to the game. |
| 980s | And so I'd love to know a little bit more about what the process is. |
| 983s | On deciding which ones you're going to go for |
| 985s | and how to keep it historically correct and authentic. |
| 988s | So I know that some of you guys really, really care about. |
| 990s | Yeah. So let's let's take the Marlins as an example. |
| 993s | So first thing you do is you go to the library |
| 996s | and you go to the section of Western African history. |
| 999s | You take anything you can. Yeah. |
| 1001s | And you overcome bookworms. Yeah. |
| 1003s | And basically you start reading, you start reading, you start picking a path |
| 1006s | like the facts, the military battles, |
| 1010s | interesting things that happened, interesting |
| 1011s | buildings and changing military tactics. That they employ. |
| 1014s | It just put everything together. |
| 1016s | And from that you start to distill gameplay |
| 1018s | and think like, Oh, hey, we talked about the Hunter woman. |
| 1021s | Yeah, we. Can do something with that. |
| 1022s | We can do something with that. |
| 1024s | And like, that's you kind of just evolve it. |
| 1027s | You have to design, you put it in the game, |
| 1029s | and at that point you kind of want to see like, Hey, what do I have here? |
| 1032s | Is this still a bit authentic? |
| 1034s | This is still a bit real. |
| 1035s | And we talk a lot to experts in the fields. |
| 1038s | Like, we're not going to say that we're experts in Malian history. |
| 1042s | It's not at all. |
| 1042s | Enthusiasts that history that. |
| 1046s | We love what we're doing, but we need to have a pro-voice in there |
| 1049s | that says like, hey, what you're doing. |
| 1050s | Is that actually still a bit accurate? |
| 1052s | Are you still representing Malian culture in the way those kind of. |
| 1055s | Voices answer that for you? |
| 1056s | Is it researchers, historians? |
| 1058s | Exactly. This team, |
| 1059s | we get in touch with universities, get in touch with experts like you. |
| 1064s | There are people who specialize in weaponry of Western Africa. |
| 1069s | Yeah. |
| 1069s | Well, you can talk about to those people about these specific weapons |
| 1073s | but more practically, like, for example, the languages that we have in the game, |
| 1077s | if you play as the Malians, you start in the dark age, |
| 1081s | they speak their ancient Malian language. |
| 1084s | But as you advanced through the ages, they speak more and more multiple |
| 1087s | languages. |
| 1088s | Now, that's a dedication to authenticity that I truly respect. |
| 1091s | It is amazing. |
| 1092s | It's been so good to just, like, feel your empire evolve here. |
| 1096s | Yes. Yes. But again, I don't speak Malian. |
| 1099s | We need to go. It's we still have someone who does. |
| 1101s | Exactly. Exactly. |
| 1102s | And this kind of balance we try to find |
| 1104s | because in the end, it's still a video game, right? |
| 1106s | Yes, it is a video game. It needs to be fun. |
| 1109s | But we want to make sure that civilizations that are in the game |
| 1112s | are represented in a way that is respectful. |
| 1115s | Absolutely. Yeah. |
| 1116s | Especially when you give that back to the community. |
| 1118s | And I'd love to talk to them a little bit now because the |
| 1121s | I've seen how personally committed they are, myself included. |
| 1124s | I'm part of a group called the Core of Ages, |
| 1126s | which is a bunch of women who like to play chess, and it's just |
| 1129s | the most wholesome place ever. |
| 1130s | And I'm curious to know |
| 1132s | how the community of actually impacted or helped each for along the way. |
| 1136s | That looks. |
| 1137s | Good tonight. Yes. |
| 1139s | No. So let's keep it like that. |
| 1141s | So for the longest time, the Age of Empires community |
| 1144s | has been involved with developments like, hey, do you like this? |
| 1148s | Here's a beta, here's an alpha version, let's play let's develop, let's give |
| 1152s | feedback, and let's build the game that we all want to play in the NFL. |
| 1156s | And that also continues today. |
| 1157s | Like we have the h h that Parks insiders go up ourselves |
| 1161s | called sign up as an insider and just register for future betas. |
| 1165s | You can go to the forums like all the developers are there. |
| 1168s | That just wait. |
| 1169s | So yeah, we we, we, we talk there a lot on the forums |
| 1174s | and just like, yeah, we have pro council, we have other councils, |
| 1176s | we have so many groups of players that just provide feedback |
| 1180s | and yeah, we work with everybody to try and make and bring the best in. |
| 1183s | So I, Trump. |
| 1184s | Is amazing |
| 1184s | and I feel like I need to, I need to be the voice |
| 1186s | of the community here and I feel like I have to ask you, |
| 1189s | we know about the addition to the Ultimates on the Marlins. |
| 1192s | Can you maybe give us a hint about maybe any upcoming ancient civilizations |
| 1196s | that might be added? I've got a tribal. Yeah. Yeah. Tiki |
| 1200s | so first of all, Age of Empires is of course more than civilizations. |
| 1204s | We have more maps coming. Oh, features. Yeah, yeah. |
| 1206s | That's all that is coming later as well with this new civilizations huh? |
| 1210s | I can't say more than that. |
| 1212s | So all I can say, Age of Empires is alive and. |
| 1215s | Yes, alive. |
| 1216s | Well and thriving. Yes, absolutely. |
| 1218s | Absolutely. |
| 1219s | So I will do that and say, with it being alive and well, are there any events |
| 1223s | or updates coming up that we can look forward to in that? Yes. |
| 1227s | So first of all, |
| 1230s | just to rephrase the 25th of October. |
| 1232s | Yeah, the Ultimates and the Marlins will be coming for free. |
| 1236s | Keyword free three. Wow. OK. |
| 1239s | Two age of Empires for. |
| 1241s | So if you have what's age of Empires for in the past on any platform, |
| 1244s | you will get the news to civilizations for free. |
| 1248s | Doesn't include game pass as well. |
| 1249s | Yes, that includes game by. |
| 1250s | Oh my goodness. |
| 1251s | I love this conversation. |
| 1252s | Everybody gets the new civilizations. Yes. |
| 1255s | Speaking about things that are for free. |
| 1258s | Right now at this very moment you can play a vampire four for free on steam. |
| 1263s | Wow. OK, so if you are on the fence like, hey Bill, I like that game, |
| 1268s | go try it out go to steam one up to age, one by sport, you can try it out. |
| 1271s | Yeah, everything is unlocked. |
| 1272s | So you can play the whole game till the 29th of October. |
| 1276s | Yeah, October, August, 39 of August. |
| 1278s | Sorry, sorry, sorry it happened. |
| 1280s | We're live. It's fine. There's a lot of dates. |
| 1282s | So there you go. |
| 1284s | So you can try it for free and if you like to buy it. |
| 1286s | And later it's now for sale. |
| 1288s | On sale as well. |
| 1289s | 50% off from both the Microsoft Store and Steam. |
| 1292s | So you can pick it up as an opportunity. |
| 1295s | I'm really looking forward to all of those. |
| 1297s | I'm curious though, as I've been walking around |
| 1299s | Gamescom, I've been seeing loads of people rapping, age, vampires, swag. Yes. |
| 1304s | Is there anything that you want to maybe showcase what's available online? |
| 1308s | Or maybe for folks while they're here? |
| 1310s | Well, we have |
| 1310s | we have one more announcements and then it is probably |
| 1312s | going to be the least sexy thing that we will see in this boat. |
| 1316s | Show, but it'll be great where we go going. |
| 1318s | So we're going to button the bits and we're going to show, oh. Yes. |
| 1322s | We are going to be celebrating 25 years of age of empires later this year. |
| 1328s | So the 25th October. |
| 1329s | Yeah, it's been 25 years since the original release by. |
| 1331s | The 25. |
| 1332s | We're going to be celebrating with all the games in the franchise. |
| 1336s | Everybody's invited and yeah, it's going to be lovely. |
| 1339s | It's going to be an online global event. |
| 1341s | There will be more announcements. |
| 1343s | So I would say yes as a developer, but also as a fan. |
| 1346s | Yes, you will to and then you don't want to miss it. |
| 1349s | And you go you Twitter you at age of Empires to find out more information. |
| 1352s | Yeah. Website, so. On. |
| 1353s | So exactly it just look age of empires on any social media, you'll be |
| 1357s | definitely kept up to date. |
| 1359s | Amazing. |
| 1359s | I'm also curious, I shared a picture on my Twitter last night. |
| 1362s | I mentioned I was at games called that some bread bowls around. |
| 1365s | Are you up to something with Red Bull at the moment? |
| 1368s | Yes, we are. Yes, we are. |
| 1369s | So Red Bull will wallow legacy is coming up. |
| 1373s | It's it's a big tournament where we're covering vampires one, two and four |
| 1378s | and we also will end of October that's all culminates |
| 1382s | in the large finals in a castle here in Germany. |
| 1386s | That's that's pretty cool. |
| 1388s | I do have to ask, though, are we playing the game |
| 1390s | or is it just people going to wall and seeing who does it best? |
| 1393s | We are playing the game, but I definitely want that to be a tiebreaker. |
| 1396s | Or something. |
| 1397s | When you type in there as well, just add some spice. |
| 1400s | You know. I'd like to see that. |
| 1401s | I'd like to see that. |
| 1402s | So, yeah, the best players in the world |
| 1404s | all gathering together in that German castle here, playing a different pass. |
| 1407s | 4 minutes. |
| 1408s | It's childhood dream, it sounds like. |
| 1410s | Yeah, it's true, honestly. |
| 1411s | And I've got to ask, the sure is it's catching the lights. |
| 1414s | So while right now you need my version |
| 1416s | is there a way for folks to get a hand on that shop? |
| 1418s | Yes. This shirt is available on the Xbox gear surface. |
| 1420s | Well. |
| 1421s | Alongside a lot of older age vampires, t shirts and merchandizing. |
| 1424s | I think a lot to pick up that's amazing. I know what I'm doing. |
| 1427s | That's right. |
| 1428s | But it's been phenomenal to have you here. |
| 1430s | I've loved talking to you |
| 1431s | and of course, everyone else who's tuned in today, that is the end of the show. |