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about 5 years ago - /u/manimal_prime - Direct link

I mean, perhaps we should change the title of this thread to Why Battlefield can't succeed on my PS4/XB/PC???

You have the right to your opinion, but I don't agree. This is by far the tactical Battlefield I have played and it certainly has the best gun play I have ever seen in a BF game. "Campers" as you call them are in Apex, Fortnite, PUBG...so on and so forth.

Also, in terms of Firestorm: It's the smartest and craftiest player that wins BRs, not necessarily the most skilled. Sure, we all wish we were Shroud running around shooting at Dr. Disrespect in these epic skill battles but that's not realistic. Sneak, loot, sneak, attack when needed, sneak, defend when needed and survive. dude got you with an MG42 out in the open? Good for him, he beat you fair and square.

That's the game my man. Play it or don't, but coming here to complain about it to people that enjoy it seems like asking for more misery.

about 5 years ago - /u/manimal_prime - Direct link

Originally posted by freshleebaked

Campers can not thrive and succeed in Apex, Fortnite, or even PUBG the way they can in battlefield. The game promotes camping and rewards you HEAVILY for doing so compared to all other fps games on the market. That's why it won't be popular and that's why the game is dying. That's my argument. I used to enjoy the franchise but they turned it into a poor direction and i'm just saying continuing down this path battlefield will never be as popular as it once was. Smartest and craftiest? I could legit play as passive as I can and pretty much win every single game if I wanted to play as such. That's not "the smartest or craftiest" especially not in battlefield BR.

I mean, our views and sub #'s on this sub pretty much tell me you are not correct in your assessment that this game is 'dying.'

It's ok to not like Battlefield V or it's take on BR, I can actually somewhat understand where you're coming from. Sure I have been killed by "campers" or people waiting for me in an area I don't expect them to be in. I understand that point and I get why's it's frustrating but I learn from it and press on. Play again, etc.

Also, if you think folks don't camp in Apex or PUBG you need to play more. I can't tell you how many people I have found in bathrooms waiting for me to peek in for some loot just to get a shotgun to the face. So much in fact I instituted a rule about NOT going into PUBG bathrooms. heh..

about 5 years ago - /u/manimal_prime - Direct link

Originally posted by freshleebaked

Relative to bf3 / 4 the franchise is certainly sinking fast. They DO CAMP in Apex and PUBG not anywhere near as much because doing so doesn't guarantee them a kill. Being guaranteed to die to a camper becae you ran into them and couldn't see them with low ttk is the difference. Try to understand what i'm saying. Frustrating gameplay that caters to campers in bf5 is evident when comparing.

Ok, so a friendly suggestion and take this for what it's worth. If your point was to articulate the point that the low in-game TTK coupled with fast rate of fire weapons are an issue for you, then a more helpful thing to do would be post to the Official DICE thread stickied at the top of this sub and give that constructive criticism. The Devs read that post and they are using it to improve the game.

I'd assume since you've been playing since BF3 that you care somewhat about the Battlefield franchise so trying to be as helpful as possible will ensure that the franchise does not indeed 'sink fast.'