Just... For the love of Jesus make every outfit available all at once, like in Battlefront II. They don't have a bullsh*t rotation, because it's pointless. It achieves nothing.
JUST GIVE US EVERYTHING NOW! NEW, AND OLD. AUTHENTIC AND FICTIONAL!
IT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS DICE?!
While you're at it, change the German plane on Airborne to a JU-52, and add an authentic cosmetics toggle button ffs
External link →Don't get me wrong, I know that. But t the very least they should say "We hear your feedback, but we can't give any reports on this at the moment." Something along those lines, like the Battlefront guys do.
It would be a lot better than deafening silence.
That doesn't work because this sub flames me when I do that - even though I've been as active as possible (and posting on Reddit and Forums isn't my entire job as a CM, though it is a big critical part to keep up with the community and share details).
The past few days I've actually had some significant personal life stuff going on (I've had to take a few days off because my apt is being sold and my wife and I have 6 weeks to move while there's still a pandemic going on and infection rates are rising, but that's my own bag of crap to deal with, but it is why I have had been offline for a few days) so you'll have to forgive me for not being as active as I have been in the past. Additionally, with all the things going on in the US AND the World regarding racial injustice over the past couple of weeks, our global channels (within all of EA) have taken a step back to listen to other voices on the internet. This doesn't mean I'm not reading what's being said. It doesn't mean I don't share the feedback with the various dev teams.
Plus, we just launched on Steam and we're working to get the up-to-date on the details of BF3, BF4, BFH, BF1, and BFV.
This doesn't mean I'm not going to post (because here I am.) But let's honestly look at how any post/message we share is usually received -
I'm not saying this like "poor me" or looking for sympathy - far from it. I'm posting this to realign reality. The phrase "damned if you do, damned if you don't" is quite appropos.
And this doesn't minimize the frustration I KNOW folks in this sub have towards Battlefield V - a lot of valid criticism ( and some that's a bit out there, for sure).
And before the inevitable "it's your job" -
Sharing information, working with the community (with - that means it's a joint venture between two parties) , and escalating feedback and issues, reporting, fighting for what the community needs/wants (and y'all don't see 90% of that fight because it's not critical for you to see it). That's my job.
Are CM's the sounding board for frustration within a gaming community? You betcha. And we know this when we get into this job role. (Because it ain't about the money.)
Probably true but 1) they could limit it to new cosmetics or even update the code to have it refresh daily 2) They could make the items available for purchase in the customization menu like the original skins. You wanted the writer? Just scroll down, select the writer, and purchase.
I would guess they have this on some sort of AI that randomly selects the options and they aren’t picking it weekly unless they over ride.
Refreshing daily isn't possible because it has to be QA'd every time there's a new Armory update - and that has to happen before it's pushed to production (live) to avoid some of the mishaps we've had in the past. And then there's the whole "I missed the rotation on Monday that had something I wanted - I'm mad!" stuff that exacerbates the situation further.
Okay well from the two comments you have made which are greatly appreciated, we still don't have any information at all on this situation and the future of this? Will you talk about it?
This comment is what I have for today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ha3j9l/a_question_for_dice_regarding_the_armoury/fv2lvk0/
We have a meeting in the morning tomorrow and I'll spend some time talking about it on the call, find out the direction and plan going forward, and share what I can with the community.
Just to prepare yourself, I don't see rotations as ending, but I do agree they can be improved if they are going to stick around. Even better - I would love to see us be able to show you what the rotation is for a particular week AHEAD of time. Not sure how far into the future we could go, but at least a couple weeks would be better than finding out the day the rotation starts, right?
If they're QA'd then how come we had the same items on rotation for weeks?
Because that’s how they set the rotation. Usually on a 2 week cadence.
At your meeting can you say to the team #SAVEBFV upon my behalf please.
I did. I even called out that I was asked by the Reddit Community to say #SAVEBFV.
Seriously, thank you for actually responding. I apologise if my posts came off as aggressive towards you and Adam, that really wasn't my intention. I've just been frustrated with things in the game recently, and that came out a lot in my post, but I swear it wasn't aimed at you or anyone else in particular.
I seriously appreciate the response hear, it's good to know you guys are reading this stuff, and I severely apologise for inappropriate behavior (To put it lightly) that other people give to you and Adam no matter what you do, that I seriously disagree with on a fundamental level. I don't think anyone should actively attack or antagonise you or Adam for doing your jobs.
I'm also sorry to hear that there's personal issues going on in your life, and I respect that. I think everyone here has been dealing with things like that with all the stuff that's going on in the world right now, so I believe we can all relate to that, but I also think that people like to know what's happening because people do enjoy this game and they want to see it do well, especially now in these trying times.
Again, I appreciate your response, and I'm happy to know that you are reading what the community has to say. I, again, apologise if I seemed aggressive to you or Adam, that was seriously not my intention, and for any inappropriate behavior from anyone else on the sub or anywhere else.
I hope things for you and Adam do go well in the future, and thank you for trying to keep us up to speed now.
Edit: I'd just like to ask that I have tremendous respect for what you and Adam do and have to deal with, being the front of backlash and community response, so thank you again for that.
No worries. I didn't take it as aggressive.
And we have some thoughts on how to improve the armory rotations - AND we discussed Company Coin accrual rates (as that is also impacting what people can purchase in the Armory outside of Boins items).
One little update on this: The team agreed that a calendar (2-4 weeks) showing WHAT will hit the Armory and when is a great idea so we're going to draft out what that would look like and then see how we can implement in the core community channels like Reddit, Forums, Steam Forums, and Twitter. As we move forward, I'll keep y'all updated.
Hey Jeff, not trying to bug you, but any news on hardcore mode?
I had some thoughts here if you cared to read them. I know you're busy so no rush. I just really miss playing Battlefield man. My friends do too
Man, I had the page open to reply to you yesterday but just got crazy busy. I'm so sorry.
Okay - brace yourself. No, there isn't a hardcore mode being worked on. HOWEVER - they are working on a lot of features and tools AND MUTATORS for Community Games, so you can make your own.
This is great to hear, but, the question remains around the “When”.
Community game improvements have been talked about since before the feature was added in. I don’t think it’s unfair to to ask when we’ll finally see it come to fruition.
I don't have a date I can share with you. It's undergoing major work to add various features, and as soon as we get into the testing and QA'ing phase of things with a more secure date, I will share it. It's absolutely something I want to talk about - but I want to set the right expectation on timelines.
Hey Jeff, I'm happy to hear this too. I'm hoping it gets some cool features for like authenticity mode or anything like that.
Also I was wondering if you missed this post? Or what?
The JU 52 has been something I've been asking for since I first played Airborne mode, so any word on that and the other stuff I mentioned there would be much appreciated!
I don't have any info on the JU-52, but I do know that previous items that popped into the Armory then popped out will continue rotating through.
RE: an authenticity toggle - there's no indication that one is being developed. From my limited (but growing) understanding of development, it would likely require a major update to implement something like this.
Here's why:
If it was client-side, the game would need to scan all players connected to said server, using specific cosmetics as a template of what is/isn't allowed. Then we'd have two choices - prevent folks from spawning until they change their outfits (which is forcing someone who wants to customize their soldier how they want to change - and they'd probably end up leaving that server, resulting in further unbalanced matches, etc.) OR automatically display on the end-user's side whatever "authentic" player sets would be available and apply them to that user who toggled "authentic" (it would be only visible to them, everyone who doesn't care would see what the player actually chose as customization.
I wouldn't even begin to know how it would handle things server-side, so I'm not going to venture a guess.
Braddock please, we just want the ability to disable some weapons. It's so hard to moderate our server sometimes.
That's something I've seen work on. :)
Thanks for the quick reply man. And no worries, like I said I know you're a busy guy.
Can't wait for those new additions to Community Games, but I have a feeling it's going to be difficult to fill hardcore lobbies without permanent servers, and the ability to search for hardcore style lobbies.
I'm officially done bugging you about hardcore mode. Seriously though I appreciate the communication over the past year or two.
But if I write one last comment explaining my thoughts on RSP, hardcore mode, and why they're necessary for a Battlefield game to succeed, will you be able to pass that information on to the right people at DICE?
I know it might fall on deaf ears but I just want one last chance to let the team know how much those two things have meant to my friends and I over the past 15 years.
Not only will they let players play the way they want therefore increasing player satisfaction, I strongly believe if done right they'll improve EA/DICE's profit levels. Everyone wins. No one loses.
No I'm not a financial analyst. But I have a feeling none of your financial analysts spent 15-20 years of their lives playing Battlefield. I know this game and I know the fanbase. You can please both your veterans as well as the newer players who are more interested in cosmetics and an arcade experience, all in the same fell swoop through a few small changes.
Just let me know when you get a chance and I'll start writing it. And I'll keep it short too, because I know the team doesn't have time to read every players concerns about the game. Thanks for all the solid replies over the last two years, Jeff. Hope you have a good summer man
If you want to send me an email, I GUARANTEE it will be seen by the teams working on the next Battlefield.
What about the idea of continuing the current currency we have for BFV but for BF 2021 that you talked a little bit about a month or two ago? Also if I have any suggestions as well will this work?
Shoot me an email.
Hey Jeff, I sent an email to you regarding the points I made in this comment, just to make sure you saw it. I hope that's alright with you.
Saw it, read it, appreciated the feedback you shared and am sharing it with the team.
Thanks, Jay.
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