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Why pick the Madsen over the Bren? They both have the same rate of fire, both handle identically (at least how I spec'd them), but the Bren has a 30 round mag compared to the Madsen's initial 25 and downs someone in less hits. The two even have a similar aesthetic. The extended mag for the Madsen is what separates it from the other, but it just isn't enough of a gimmick for me to pick it over the Bren.

Inevitably, I'll find myself in CQB, 1v1 fight with someone using a superior weapon, but the Bren's slightly higher damage output is enough to overcome 514rpm handicap and gives me a decent chance of surviving. In a similar scenario, I tend to lose most fights using the Madsen. I also believe the Bren is a more accurate weapon at a distance than the Madsen; it doesn't seem to jump around as much on the bipod.

Bottom line, it just feels like anything the Madsen can do, the Bren does better.

Thoughts on the two?

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about 5 years ago - /u/DICE-RandomRecoil - Direct link

Originally posted by kht120

For all intents and purposes, the Madsen is pretty much flat out better.

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I don't have telemetry on the Madsen yet, but the Bren still gets a lot of kills within 10 meters. You should not underestimate the relevance of this range in regular gameplay.

about 5 years ago - /u/DICE-RandomRecoil - Direct link

Originally posted by kht120

I personally pull out my revolver for all my 10m work when using the Bren, especially since the bad hipfire and the use of a 3x scope makes your hipfire and ADS time almost unworkable in CQB. I guess I shouldn't underestimate other people's habits, even if <10m Bren use already isn't a good idea.

Revolver is overrated imo and not a good replacement for anything full auto. Its TTK barely beats the Bren and if you miss a shot you are screwed. Only really good if you hipfire headshot. Ruby or M1912 are much better to replace a full auto weapon.

about 5 years ago - /u/DICE-RandomRecoil - Direct link

Originally posted by FreshBrilloPad

Hey why does is the madsen a 5-shot kill at close range? I think it’s the only gun like this

So it can also 5 hit kill at long range without being too meta.

about 5 years ago - /u/DICE-RandomRecoil - Direct link

Originally posted by OnlyNeedJuan

1912 has since become a good replacement. Sad to see the revolver brought down so much, I miss having fantastic sidearms. Either way, if you run a 450rpm sidearm, it's better than the Bren in CQB (especially if you don't spec in quick aim, though I'd never recommend doing that) which kind of invalidates the reason for the bren to be a thing vs the Madsen. Maybe a sneaky universal +5m 4btk extension could make the bren shine more?

What will become of the revolver anyway? Is its niché gonna be exclusively "dome someone for instant kill"? Or will we see a reemergence of sniper sidearms from Bf4 with a chunky ranged damage model?

There might be something coming soon.