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| 5s | and it's time to explain the podcast |
| 7s | where we're explaining why we do the |
| 10s | things we do and I have here two new |
| 13s | faces well spend is very known into the |
| 15s | community but also repeated faces that |
| 18s | are very important as well for the team |
| 20s | Adrian and Frank so Adrian can you |
| 23s | introduce yourself for the people who |
| 24s | don't who don't know you yet sure uh my |
| 27s | name is Adrian I've been on the brawl |
| 28s | team for about three years and I do |
| 30s | testing and balancing mostly so whenever |
| 34s | there's something that's too strong or |
| 36s | too weak you have me to blame |
| 38s | and then we have Jeff game designer in |
| 42s | the brow team for how long you've been |
| 44s | here cool uh uh hey what's up um I've |
| 48s | been here for six months not that long |
| 50s | so don't blame me for anything |
| 54s | we'll get to that chef |
| 57s | and then we have |
| 59s | the 2019 world champion span and also a |
| 63s | current YouTuber because you dropped the |
| 66s | pro-life I became washed |
| 72s | create content on YouTube and have been |
| 75s | doing for about four years now so I eat |
| 78s | sleep and |
| 80s | [Music] |
| 88s | and then Frank Ting lead of the brow |
| 90s | start team |
| 92s | hello everyone I guess most of you know |
| 93s | me I've been in the world talk or two |
| 96s | um |
| 97s | I've been in browsers since forever |
| 99s | essentially no |
| 101s | five years this August yeah five years |
| 104s | time flies when you're having fun wait |
| 105s | one thing |
| 110s | I've noticed when you're on podcast you |
| 113s | turn on your sexy voice |
| 115s | so true though you should have done the |
| 118s | intro then you know in in the early days |
| 120s | of the internet |
| 123s | we're running uh |
| 126s | not a hotline I guess then no in German |
| 129s | actually |
| 130s | so maybe my voice in German is even |
| 131s | better wow it's possible |
| 134s | someone dig this up okay anyway let's |
| 137s | explain some things I know like the last |
| 139s | update was very controversial for for |
| 142s | some and I think we now have the time to |
| 145s | like explain or give the reasonings why |
| 147s | we did the things we do and let's start |
| 150s | with the hypercharge so for you guys |
| 153s | that are here on the table how do you |
| 155s | think it Go overall |
| 159s | who wants to start yeah I can start I |
| 163s | mean I think I think pretty pretty mixed |
| 165s | bag mixed bag I think for |
| 167s | like what we wanted to accomplish with |
| 169s | the gameplay is you know brawl has this |
| 173s | you know shoot shoot height heal shoot |
| 175s | high heel this Rhythm to it and we |
| 178s | really wanted to escalate the game |
| 180s | towards the end of the match or nearing |
| 183s | the middle towards in the match so you |
| 185s | go so hyper charged with this moment |
| 186s | where you get to like really turn up and |
| 189s | have this exciting moment and I think we |
| 192s | we mostly capture that obviously you |
| 194s | know lots of improvements to be made and |
| 197s | you know lots more Brawlers with |
| 199s | hypercharge to be released uh but I |
| 202s | think at the core uh we got that right |
| 208s | so yeah like uh is it fun I guess that's |
| 212s | the question |
| 214s | I guess everyone agree do you agree I |
| 217s | think it's fun I think the problem that |
| 219s | people had was that they've well |
| 221s | obviously before they didn't try it they |
| 223s | thought I'll just be like a click of a |
| 225s | button you get it all the time and |
| 226s | you're just gonna be spamming it but I |
| 228s | think as people have played it it's |
| 229s | actually just feels really good for the |
| 231s | game like it's you probably get maybe |
| 233s | one maybe two throughout the whole game |
| 235s | it doesn't make it like skillless but it |
| 239s | makes it really fun and exciting I think |
| 240s | you did capture it pretty well uh you |
| 243s | know considering my background I would |
| 245s | be pretty |
| 247s | um a lot of what is for it like |
| 249s | I'd be horsing more harsh in you guys |
| 251s | because it affect like the end game but |
| 253s | I think even from the pro side I think |
| 255s | most Pros actually pretty happy with it |
| 256s | so yeah I think it's a good addition to |
| 258s | the game yeah I will say like when we |
| 260s | think about the design we were thinking |
| 261s | about you know every |
| 264s | brawler has hypercharged all six players |
| 266s | have hypercharged and what is the |
| 268s | interaction you know you can use it for |
| 270s | engaging you can use it for disengaging |
| 273s | or countering you know everybody on the |
| 275s | same team triggering at the same time so |
| 277s | lots of cool interactions that's kind of |
| 279s | you know missing today because in most |
| 281s | matches |
| 282s | one two or three Brawlers have it today |
| 285s | so I think a part of that balance is |
| 288s | missing for sure |
| 290s | um but yeah but I think that'll get |
| 291s | better as we |
| 293s | release more yeah I think the the one of |
| 296s | the cool things really like |
| 298s | if you're if you're just an average |
| 301s | player wants to play a couple of matches |
| 302s | a day and wants to have fun |
| 304s | If You Get Hype a judge it will not |
| 307s | transform you into a pro you will not be |
| 309s | able to roll over |
| 310s | significantly more skilled players just |
| 312s | not happening you see it all the time I |
| 314s | I think it's like we had that learning |
| 317s | from the |
| 318s | from from Showdown actually where you |
| 321s | know the power-ups that yes they're |
| 323s | giving you more power but they're not |
| 324s | necessarily giving you like I'm talking |
| 326s | about the not the general boxes together |
| 329s | but the the energy energy drop yeah what |
| 332s | is the name energy drink yeah energy |
| 334s | drink thanks so energy drinks makes you |
| 337s | stronger |
| 339s | but your headphones don't go up |
| 341s | and as a result it gives you this |
| 342s | feeling oh God all that power but at the |
| 346s | end of the day if someone is just |
| 347s | hitting you you you're you know you're |
| 350s | still being taken out |
| 351s | and here we wanted to aim for the same |
| 354s | and it feels in fact it feels the same |
| 356s | it's exactly the same when it comes to |
| 358s | this moment |
| 361s | um for me personally I think they are |
| 362s | really fun actually especially if you |
| 365s | time them right and if you know like if |
| 366s | you're not just triggering them the |
| 368s | moment you get them available |
| 370s | but if you wait for that moment and then |
| 372s | you're going all in with it that feels |
| 374s | just like |
| 375s | that feels almost like you're |
| 376s | unstoppable for a moment and there's a |
| 378s | really good feeling |
| 380s | so so if I compare that with what we had |
| 382s | in that slot before which was a gear |
| 385s | yeah I think it's a vast Improvement |
| 388s | um |
| 389s | what one of the feedbacks I've seen a |
| 391s | lot online and I I tend to agree with is |
| 394s | we wanted we wanted this to be two |
| 396s | pieces right so there's the you're just |
| 398s | getting stronger faster whatever |
| 400s | I think that's pretty static and we |
| 402s | configured actually per brawler so we |
| 404s | have some differences there |
| 407s | and that's one component for it but the |
| 408s | other is making your super just better |
| 411s | but what we aim for design wise is to |
| 413s | have it should still be the same super |
| 416s | because else it changes so many things |
| 418s | if you change completely up you know if |
| 420s | Shelley's shot all of a sudden wouldn't |
| 422s | be a shot anymore |
| 423s | yeah so so for us it was important that |
| 426s | it still has the same functionality |
| 428s | but more |
| 430s | um for some of the for for the initial |
| 432s | batch of six |
| 434s | um |
| 435s | maybe it feels like a lot of them are |
| 437s | very similar we get that but for example |
| 439s | for the next batch of six there's |
| 440s | already some which just make some |
| 442s | interactions different |
| 444s | can I give a spoiler Danny sure |
| 446s | so one one of one of the next six ones |
| 450s | first spoiler my wow already yeah |
| 454s | go ahead go ahead go nuts but one of the |
| 457s | next Brawlers which will get hyper |
| 459s | charges Rosa |
| 461s | um |
| 462s | and and and draws us when you when you |
| 465s | trigger a bubble there's going to be an |
| 467s | additional effect around her |
| 469s | which impacts the other players |
| 472s | so for example in Rosa's case that would |
| 474s | be slow that's the current design right |
| 476s | we are still there's still weeks in the |
| 479s | making so that might still change so |
| 480s | that's maybe the caveat I want to give |
| 482s | but just imagine right now when you |
| 484s | trigger the bubble people try to run |
| 485s | away from you Etc but in the future when |
| 488s | you trigger the bubble |
| 489s | just imagine roots coming out of out of |
| 492s | the ground and keeping you in place or |
| 494s | slowing you down at least so that makes |
| 496s | a bubble even more menacing right |
| 498s | because then you can just |
| 500s | destroy everything in your path so if I |
| 502s | think like Kairos gave that feedback is |
| 505s | a couple of players gave that feedback |
| 507s | and I think it's fair it's like it |
| 509s | should be like maybe a little bit more |
| 511s | for the supers |
| 512s | and of course we can always go back to |
| 514s | the ones which didn't quite hit the mark |
| 515s | and tune them better yeah and I think |
| 518s | another feedback that I heard is about |
| 520s | like how why the stats uh buff or like |
| 523s | why so like um I know obvious or like as |
| 526s | this strength buff but I also like it's |
| 529s | something that we want the casuals to |
| 531s | desire to go to level 11 and when they |
| 533s | reach that level that they have like uh |
| 535s | they they feel the power right because |
| 537s | Gadget is kind of like skill based |
| 539s | sometimes or like uh star powers are |
| 541s | passives like most of them don't |
| 543s | understand what a passive ability does |
| 545s | and then uh gears is also something that |
| 548s | doesn't You Don't See Clearly the effect |
| 549s | right so we wanted like something really |
| 552s | obvious that like you got it you see the |
| 554s | impact |
| 555s | um and yeah I guess that's why the we |
| 558s | came with this design |
| 560s | you don't need a University degree to |
| 562s | figure out what's happening when someone |
| 563s | is glowing purple and no yeah fire I |
| 566s | just ran on it I think it's very |
| 568s | readability was important for us like |
| 570s | for average players yeah average players |
| 572s | should just see whoa what the hell is |
| 574s | going on over there |
| 575s | purple Flames maybe I'll stay away from |
| 577s | that so it's very intuitive from that |
| 580s | side yeah yeah and then and I think from |
| 584s | like design perspective sometimes we |
| 586s | approach it from like the mechanical |
| 587s | level sometimes we approach it from the |
| 589s | feeling level and then you know shout |
| 591s | out to to V uh I think one of the first |
| 593s | like remarks on this was Hey what if it |
| 596s | felt like you know Dragon Ball Z Super |
| 599s | Saiyan mode like we really wanted to |
| 601s | capture that |
| 602s | um so yeah |
| 604s | now did achieve our goals |
| 609s | I think it's too early to tell to be |
| 611s | honest as Jeff pointed out there's only |
| 613s | one only yeah six yeah so far after that |
| 617s | so so it's like it's really way too |
| 619s | early to tell if it achieved or didn't |
| 620s | achieve our goals |
| 622s | one thing |
| 624s | one thing we are still discussing and |
| 626s | we're probably changing for the next |
| 627s | update is how we are rolling them out |
| 632s | um |
| 632s | we are we're not entirely sure that our |
| 634s | rollout strategy the pricing and all of |
| 636s | that was ideal |
| 638s | um |
| 639s | so we'll see we're likely still |
| 641s | experimenting with this |
| 642s | for for a spend maybe like because from |
| 645s | the player's perspective and a segue to |
| 647s | what you're said uh what could we have |
| 650s | done better like maybe like releasing |
| 652s | more of course it's obvious thing |
| 653s | because it's a capacity that we only |
| 656s | have uh enough time and resources to do |
| 659s | a certain amount of things but uh from |
| 662s | your perspective what could have be we |
| 663s | have done better |
| 666s | I think uh well we kind of covered it in |
| 669s | a sense I think the thing for me was the |
| 671s | fact that it was only literally like six |
| 672s | but obviously you had to push out the |
| 675s | update obviously else we wouldn't have |
| 676s | got anything at all so yeah I think for |
| 680s | me like going into like a ladder game |
| 681s | for example when there's say that only |
| 683s | six brothers out of 70 that will have |
| 685s | the hyper charging I was thinking you |
| 687s | know if these upper charges are like |
| 688s | really overpowered then it will be quite |
| 690s | frustrating but you know quickly after a |
| 693s | day of playing it you saw it it actually |
| 694s | really fit the game |
| 695s | so I think for me for me it's really |
| 698s | good you said as well I would get over |
| 701s | the coin economy how you're unsure like |
| 704s | the good thing is is that it's better to |
| 707s | make it a bit more expensive and bring |
| 708s | it down than doing the opposite well I |
| 710s | think you've already mentioned that |
| 711s | before but to me I've got really no |
| 713s | complaints about that and probably the |
| 716s | fact you have to wait two weeks for it |
| 718s | can be you know a lot of people have |
| 720s | been saying it can be a bit frustrating |
| 722s | maybe you could change that to a little |
| 724s | bit shorter because |
| 726s | you know you kind of want the feeling of |
| 729s | being able to you know unlock this call |
| 731s | ability like straight away so if you see |
| 733s | with these other people running around |
| 735s | with it you kind of want that but yeah I |
| 738s | honestly don't have too many complaints |
| 739s | normally you know me as as someone who |
| 744s | plays the game a lot there's always |
| 745s | something that probably is annoying me a |
| 746s | little bit but with hypercharge think |
| 748s | it's good I think eventually once we get |
| 750s | more and more come into it you'll be |
| 752s | able to get a better understanding when |
| 754s | a lot of the Brawlers will have |
| 755s | hypercharged how the interactions will |
| 756s | go and stuff like that but |
| 759s | I've honestly haven't really many |
| 761s | complaints at the moment |
| 763s | it was really interesting to see of |
| 765s | course when when |
| 767s | I think when the teaser job people were |
| 769s | like okay it's gonna be card Evolution |
| 771s | again yeah yeah then then after World |
| 774s | talk drop people were still confused |
| 776s | there was like discussions about like |
| 779s | what will it cost Etc |
| 781s | but the price was actually in Broad top |
| 783s | yeah yeah yeah yeah and people were like |
| 785s | oh that's so expensive yeah and then |
| 787s | when the update dropped them people like |
| 789s | oh we get one free as part of an event |
| 791s | that already changed |
| 793s | and like like a few weeks in now |
| 797s | actually you see way less less talk |
| 799s | about the pricing and you see more and |
| 802s | more posts like ideas for hyper charges |
| 804s | like the Reddit you find multiple posts |
| 807s | now where people talk about hey I have |
| 809s | this idea for hypercharters so it's |
| 811s | already starting to inspire some people |
| 812s | so but it's interesting how that |
| 814s | conversation changed over the course of |
| 816s | seven days yeah like like from what the |
| 819s | hell to oh hmm |
| 822s | this might work and yeah as you said |
| 825s | like the moment people got their hands |
| 826s | on I think it all changed somewhat yeah |
| 829s | yeah and I think like actually it's a |
| 832s | some part of like our strategy like when |
| 834s | we announced something we know that the |
| 837s | first comments will be very emotional |
| 839s | it's like we don't try to address then |
| 841s | right away because we know there is |
| 843s | almost no Wing because reason won't beat |
| 845s | emotion but then like if you wait for a |
| 848s | few days like it starts like to ease |
| 850s | down before it starts to assimilate what |
| 852s | their uh their thoughts and then you can |
| 854s | give reason and then like oh actually |
| 856s | makes sense it's like a horrible no I |
| 859s | don't want to mention this example I've |
| 860s | mentioned after the podcast like |
| 862s | everyone everything can have a reason |
| 864s | behind it like even if like something |
| 866s | that um I know could be horrible when |
| 868s | you see first time like we didn't do |
| 872s | these things like just like throw a dice |
| 873s | and then yeah that's driver charge oh |
| 876s | man |
| 877s | we're not supposed to do that |
| 881s | but yeah |
| 882s | uh how about for you Adrian do you think |
| 885s | what could we have done better or how do |
| 887s | you feel about hypercharge I think I |
| 888s | mean I think especially as a player I |
| 890s | would Echo the thing that maybe they |
| 892s | felt a bit underwhelming because we had |
| 895s | a lot of really cool animations to go |
| 897s | with we had a lot of hype you know you |
| 900s | wanted it to be something really big |
| 902s | like the super changes for example but I |
| 905s | did think on the other hand what we |
| 906s | nailed is is one of the fundamental |
| 909s | design pillars was that the aiming |
| 911s | shouldn't change when you get your hyper |
| 913s | super and I think that's actually very |
| 914s | important and something that's |
| 915s | overlooked because I think that could |
| 917s | cause a lot of confusion let's say |
| 919s | because you want something crazier we |
| 921s | get it but like let's say you know any |
| 924s | broad let's see yeah like Shelly |
| 926s | wouldn't shoot a shot then suddenly your |
| 927s | aiming changes and it's like what's |
| 929s | happening there so I think there's |
| 931s | there's a balance to strike there when |
| 932s | we want to make something crazier but |
| 934s | keep the inherent super Behavior the |
| 936s | same and I think we did good on that |
| 938s | part in the first batch but I think we |
| 940s | could do better on the craziness part |
| 941s | while keeping that true |
| 943s | yeah yeah and yeah and just to add to |
| 945s | that like I think whenever you know when |
| 948s | you're a player and you're thinking |
| 949s | about design it's like yeah what's the |
| 951s | coolest thing for me you know I'm a 30 |
| 954s | 000 trophy player but at the same time |
| 956s | we have to think about you know the 500 |
| 959s | trophy player in the 2000 trophy player |
| 962s | and the 10th like everybody has a |
| 964s | different experience on their player |
| 965s | Journey so we need to like consider all |
| 967s | of that and and have sometimes you do |
| 970s | have to sacrifice a little bit to make |
| 972s | sure the earlier players in their |
| 974s | Journey also cannot get it have fun |
| 976s | exactly like you said you know making |
| 978s | sure the aiming is the same yeah |
| 980s | well I think it's maybe like on the on |
| 984s | the topic of the cost |
| 986s | I think it's it's maybe a nice segue in |
| 988s | another topic which bubbled up recently |
| 991s | which is China oh yeah yeah you can go |
| 994s | ahead |
| 996s | so actually with the pricing strategy |
| 1000s | some of you might have seen or not that |
| 1002s | in China the world would happen |
| 1004s | differently |
| 1006s | so they're still batches |
| 1007s | but actually |
| 1009s | their hyperchard is not available for |
| 1012s | coins in China is gems only |
| 1015s | but the gem cost is 80. |
| 1018s | so it's like |
| 1020s | it's just a different strategy |
| 1022s | and and of course we are well learning |
| 1024s | both teams are learning from each other |
| 1026s | to see what works and what doesn't work |
| 1028s | and we will keep an eye on that as well |
| 1030s | so far they seem to have quite the |
| 1032s | success with rolling it out for gems |
| 1034s | only |
| 1034s | for a lower gem price |
| 1037s | so it's something we definitely keep an |
| 1040s | eye on |
| 1041s | and yeah on the topic of China again I |
| 1044s | think right now there's some skins |
| 1046s | circulating on |
| 1049s | several |
| 1050s | leak accounts which is not so much of a |
| 1053s | leak because it's really public in China |
| 1054s | of course |
| 1055s | but yeah for a while now actually |
| 1058s | brawl in China is not operated by the |
| 1060s | browsers team |
| 1062s | here in Helsinki anymore but by a team |
| 1064s | in China |
| 1065s | and |
| 1066s | they have a lot of freedom in which |
| 1069s | direction they want to take the game |
| 1071s | and um |
| 1072s | so you will see more and more that |
| 1074s | there's deviations of how we are doing |
| 1076s | things on the things which happen in |
| 1077s | China for example they did decide to |
| 1081s | release the old exclusive skins and sell |
| 1083s | them |
| 1085s | um they are releasing hypercharge for a |
| 1087s | different price point |
| 1088s | they're releasing skins which we don't |
| 1089s | have in the rest of the world and so on |
| 1091s | and so forth and that that that gap |
| 1094s | between both versions which does get |
| 1096s | wider and wider the longer this goes so |
| 1099s | I guess what what I want to tell the |
| 1101s | community is that just because you see |
| 1103s | it's happening somewhere in China |
| 1106s | doesn't necessarily mean it happens on |
| 1107s | the rest of the world |
| 1109s | yeah and I guess like we can actually |
| 1112s | like we we need to be humbled that like |
| 1115s | maybe we don't know the Chinese market |
| 1117s | enough so that's why we have like a |
| 1119s | thing operating there and like even like |
| 1121s | in different parts of the world like |
| 1122s | maybe South America reacts differently |
| 1124s | to a feature than the European audience |
| 1126s | uh reacts so |
| 1128s | um yeah they are doing what they think |
| 1130s | is the best for the game based on the |
| 1132s | culture and everything so |
| 1134s | let's see and then I guess like as you |
| 1136s | said if something is really popular |
| 1138s | Somehow Here in the west Maybe |
| 1140s | we could |
| 1142s | bring it or I don't know yeah yeah it's |
| 1145s | totally a possibility if we see lucky |
| 1146s | skin being hyper popular in China yeah |
| 1148s | that we that we |
| 1151s | try to get that skin into the version |
| 1152s | for the rest of the world hyper popular |
| 1155s | you say |
| 1157s | uh about hyper chart that someone wants |
| 1161s | to comment something else I think we oh |
| 1163s | I mean I just want to mirror what Adrian |
| 1165s | said really like from the trailer I was |
| 1168s | explaining to Danny before and they |
| 1169s | literally it felt like a movie like |
| 1171s | Danny said he's scripted it by the way |
| 1173s | no ah |
| 1178s | already it was amazing |
| 1179s | and you know |
| 1182s | normally on my channel I'm a competitive |
| 1183s | and you know I focus on the meta but I |
| 1187s | actually wanted to break it down because |
| 1188s | it was so good as like a masterpiece and |
| 1190s | it brought a lot of hype and I really |
| 1191s | did enjoy it I did enjoy it and for me I |
| 1195s | thought it was going to be something a |
| 1196s | little bit different like a second Super |
| 1198s | and you know I wasn't disappointed by |
| 1200s | Harbor charge but maybe that could even |
| 1202s | be some for the future that's what I'm |
| 1204s | kind of hoping for because |
| 1206s | you know if you've already mentioned it |
| 1207s | as well how a few of the Brawlers maybe |
| 1210s | the hypercharge is a bit lacklust you |
| 1212s | know for example the one that I'm mainly |
| 1214s | concerned with you can change it like |
| 1215s | the the Pearl hyper challenge doesn't |
| 1217s | really feel too great I know you've got |
| 1219s | to involve a super air around it but it |
| 1221s | doesn't feel as satisfying as like I |
| 1224s | don't know a Shelley super or Spike |
| 1226s | super light that's massive so I mean you |
| 1229s | can you guys will learn and make things |
| 1231s | better I think what people forget is |
| 1233s | that it's just literally the first |
| 1234s | introduction like it's so hard to you |
| 1236s | can test it out whenever however I was |
| 1238s | behind the scenes but you never know |
| 1240s | what it's going to be like in games so |
| 1242s | yeah it's not been like a car crash like |
| 1244s | some people make out when brotalk came |
| 1247s | out everyone was like on fire but like I |
| 1250s | said you've got to wait for a few days |
| 1251s | people got to get their hands on the |
| 1253s | game and then everyone was like oh it's |
| 1255s | not not too bad this time that's quite |
| 1258s | fun maybe it should have been super |
| 1260s | chaotic and Powerful maybe if that's |
| 1263s | what they wanted I guess just one thing |
| 1265s | like what could have been done better |
| 1267s | like I felt that because when we |
| 1269s | introduced a teaser people were |
| 1271s | expecting for a second Super a stronger |
| 1273s | super right and then I even mentioned |
| 1275s | like in the first meetings we have a |
| 1276s | hyper about hypercharge I mentioned that |
| 1278s | uh maybe we are missing an opportunity |
| 1281s | because like we are introducing |
| 1282s | something super strong but what when |
| 1286s | whatever thing we would release on top |
| 1289s | of what we have what is Gears it would |
| 1291s | have already feel super strong already |
| 1293s | right because they don't know anything |
| 1294s | uh players don't have anything to |
| 1296s | compare so I wonder like if we missed an |
| 1298s | opportunity that maybe in the future |
| 1300s | like five years from now power level 11 |
| 1303s | uh 12. we would have like the |
| 1306s | hypercharged Super Saiyan mode and then |
| 1308s | now we would only introduce the second |
| 1310s | Super right but uh I think like the |
| 1313s | design how it is it feels super good |
| 1315s | when you uh use it and maybe only like |
| 1317s | this stronger super I think it would |
| 1320s | even be more Niche so like maybe the the |
| 1323s | casuals wouldn't even manage to take |
| 1326s | advantage of it right because maybe for |
| 1328s | the pros like they will need to think |
| 1329s | like should I use my super now or should |
| 1331s | I use my stronger super later but for |
| 1333s | the Casual like whatever they see the |
| 1334s | flashy button and then and it should |
| 1337s | still be fun right like that's the point |
| 1338s | you should be able to press that flash |
| 1339s | button and feel good about it yeah yeah |
| 1341s | so yeah |
| 1343s | um yeah I mean I I'll add to that I |
| 1345s | think I think could we have used more |
| 1348s | play test time yes yeah because we have |
| 1350s | been even more creative with some of the |
| 1353s | supers yeah I think so I think I know my |
| 1356s | friends talks about this a lot it's |
| 1358s | always a balance and trade-off between |
| 1359s | like Hey we're a live game you know you |
| 1362s | guys expect updates and cool stuff to |
| 1365s | happen and we got to deliver so |
| 1367s | sometimes it's just hard decisions |
| 1370s | yeah and I mean just talking a little |
| 1373s | bit more about the I guess the |
| 1375s | development of hype charging it went |
| 1376s | through a lot of iteration actually we |
| 1378s | had a lot of different designs on the |
| 1380s | table I guess just to maybe spoil one of |
| 1383s | the first one which was actually that |
| 1384s | was Auto activated and not a separate |
| 1387s | button and then at some point we |
| 1388s | realized hey let's just try to put a |
| 1390s | button to see how that feels probably |
| 1391s | feels better and it did feel a lot |
| 1393s | better and so we we kind of changed |
| 1394s | Direction a few times during the |
| 1396s | development yeah and um but at some |
| 1399s | point you have to just realize you have |
| 1400s | to just put it out there otherwise |
| 1401s | you're not going to put anything out |
| 1402s | because you can polish forever that's |
| 1404s | that's never an issue but at some point |
| 1406s | you just have to deliver as well yeah |
| 1408s | and the problem was never that something |
| 1410s | is out and then it's there and we cannot |
| 1412s | change anything about it yeah yeah like |
| 1413s | I think the the Pearl hyper chart is a |
| 1415s | great example yeah I think it doesn't |
| 1417s | make sense oh wow |
| 1421s | it doesn't it doesn't it's looking at me |
| 1424s | he's looking at me he's looking at me |
| 1425s | I'm actually not sure if you came up |
| 1427s | with that but maybe you came yeah but |
| 1430s | you'd be your thinking about it let's |
| 1432s | not use names yeah no no no but you know |
| 1435s | like the fact that her hypercharge is |
| 1436s | pushing people away yeah no so her super |
| 1439s | is that you push people away and then |
| 1441s | the hyper charge generates an area yeah |
| 1444s | you shouldn't step into kind of that's |
| 1447s | yeah it's a different thing it's a book |
| 1449s | but we can go back and say it's a pack |
| 1452s | yeah part of it is a bug |
| 1456s | that's a that's a good one I gotta have |
| 1458s | that in my pocket it's a bug guts |
| 1462s | it's I mean I can use it I don't know if |
| 1464s | you can I have the actual credentials |
| 1467s | it's a bug |
| 1469s | cool |
| 1471s | um still about this update like there |
| 1473s | are a lot of uh little things together |
| 1475s | that cause like some controversy and one |
| 1478s | of them is the power level progression |
| 1480s | change |
| 1481s | the community like feels very |
| 1484s | passionate or like vocal about it at the |
| 1487s | moment and I do understand I guess like |
| 1489s | it's it's makes the gap between like a |
| 1492s | player who has resources uh higher |
| 1494s | compared to someone that doesn't |
| 1496s | but um yeah maybe like maybe Frank want |
| 1499s | to explain why we did it yeah it's |
| 1503s | pretty simple at the end of the day |
| 1504s | right when we |
| 1506s | when we did experiment with the gears |
| 1510s | um |
| 1511s | we realized pretty quickly that a change |
| 1513s | of five percent and anything you cannot |
| 1516s | feel it |
| 1517s | so literally a five percent speed change |
| 1519s | it didn't do anything |
| 1521s | and we there's five percent |
| 1524s | progression we had for the longest of |
| 1526s | time was just it was just a piece from |
| 1529s | the older days where we didn't really |
| 1531s | think about this when we did it |
| 1532s | originally |
| 1534s | um |
| 1535s | but we felt like when people you know |
| 1537s | invest time and energy to level up the |
| 1539s | broader they should feel something there |
| 1541s | should be that feeling of oh wow I |
| 1543s | actually get stronger because else why |
| 1545s | do you have power progression in the |
| 1546s | first place |
| 1547s | so |
| 1548s | we you know if you're free to play or |
| 1551s | not we believe that we give you enough |
| 1553s | resources to level up Brothers |
| 1555s | you might have to make better decisions |
| 1557s | and yes because we transitioned from the |
| 1558s | old world to the new world |
| 1560s | it might lead to a situation where you |
| 1562s | felt like oh |
| 1563s | I pushed all my brothers to power seven |
| 1565s | now I wish I could have |
| 1567s | pushed off some Brawlers to power 9 or |
| 1569s | 11. okay that's fair |
| 1571s | but you know when you came in come in as |
| 1573s | a new player today you won't care |
| 1576s | because you're just growing up with it |
| 1578s | and if you're a very experienced player |
| 1580s | you're mixed anyway yeah and then you |
| 1581s | also don't care then the only thing you |
| 1583s | might care about is the the gadgets and |
| 1585s | star powers that it's not percentage |
| 1586s | based but we're gonna fix that yeah with |
| 1588s | the next update |
| 1589s | so |
| 1591s | yeah is that another spoiler already no |
| 1593s | yeah we already we already talked about |
| 1595s | okay no but but I think it's really like |
| 1598s | what's really important is that when you |
| 1600s | level up your character you should feel |
| 1601s | the difference before and after yeah and |
| 1603s | with five percent that was not the case |
| 1606s | and now it's the case |
| 1608s | and actually like if you go to like the |
| 1610s | concept of like what upgrading something |
| 1612s | in a game means like I don't know let's |
| 1615s | speak Dark Souls like you upgrade your |
| 1616s | weapon or your character and then you |
| 1618s | want to go to the same enemy and then |
| 1620s | you beat them easier right because like |
| 1622s | uh you want to feel that you're stronger |
| 1624s | like if everyone is like on the same |
| 1625s | level then what is the meaning of |
| 1627s | upgrade and I think one um point that |
| 1630s | you missed like |
| 1631s | progression is like one of the core |
| 1633s | pillars of our game right it's super |
| 1635s | important and then we have like this |
| 1637s | thing that you don't feel that you're |
| 1638s | actually progressing yeah |
| 1640s | yeah the call Loop is really like |
| 1643s | you know two players play against each |
| 1645s | other or three or three or whatever it |
| 1647s | is |
| 1648s | you're all on the same level |
| 1651s | um someone is winning because they're |
| 1653s | slightly better than the other person |
| 1655s | then instead of being stuck there with |
| 1657s | that situation you have a way out which |
| 1660s | I can't keep playing grinding |
| 1662s | get enough materials to level up my my |
| 1666s | character |
| 1667s | and try again maybe then I win and then |
| 1669s | pushes the other person then do the same |
| 1671s | so it's an arms race in a way |
| 1674s | and and this cycle of getting stronger |
| 1677s | in Cycles that's just part of the game |
| 1679s | today yeah |
| 1681s | how do you feel spend |
| 1683s | I mean me personally I don't really feel |
| 1686s | like someone max player but I I |
| 1688s | understand the reasoning because it |
| 1690s | didn't really feel like I'll create a |
| 1692s | free-to-play account about a year and a |
| 1694s | half now and 11 at Brawlers didn't |
| 1697s | really feel too much of an advantage if |
| 1700s | you get what I mean like Power Nine to |
| 1702s | power eleven are still I didn't want |
| 1704s | really much stat difference but |
| 1706s | again with light balance and as well |
| 1707s | speaking to that Adrian before was like |
| 1709s | I feel like there's even more room for |
| 1710s | balancing because the numbers have got |
| 1711s | bigger there's more ways you can tweak |
| 1714s | stop Powers gadgets to numbers and |
| 1716s | fine-tune it I think there's a lot of |
| 1718s | opportunity I think people just need to |
| 1720s | get used to the new numbers I think the |
| 1721s | things for me personally is like just |
| 1723s | getting used to the yeah you know seeing |
| 1726s | I don't know how much HP Frank has now |
| 1728s | but he has a lot of HP yeah it can take |
| 1732s | a while to get used to but I think five |
| 1734s | percent is it's not really too much it |
| 1736s | feels like 20 of such yeah like I would |
| 1741s | be a bigger voice about it but five |
| 1743s | percent I think one you know after the |
| 1745s | next update people probably forget about |
| 1746s | it to be honest yeah yeah and things |
| 1747s | that uh I guess like we we can't like |
| 1750s | isolate this feature from everything |
| 1752s | else we did so like our progression |
| 1754s | system uh got like of course with star |
| 1757s | drops maybe we introduced their |
| 1759s | um uh random ability is that a word uh |
| 1761s | but like now you can you have like |
| 1763s | almost full control of how you progress |
| 1764s | your account right it's like you you |
| 1766s | don't have like power points being given |
| 1769s | to like Lou or yeah |
| 1772s | someone like he always like goes to |
| 1774s | whatever you want and we didn't do any |
| 1776s | price increase to the thing so like |
| 1778s | basically as you said like a new player |
| 1780s | will join and then this is the new world |
| 1782s | like if I want to if like the power |
| 1784s | level is what is blocking me from |
| 1786s | winning this match then I will upgrade |
| 1787s | my brawler or like but that's a skill |
| 1790s | issue |
| 1792s | skill issue but I think you touched on |
| 1796s | that a little bit but but there's a lot |
| 1798s | of |
| 1799s | connected systems in place today yeah |
| 1801s | brawl is pretty complex game it doesn't |
| 1803s | always look like that but there's a lot |
| 1804s | going on actually |
| 1806s | right now for example |
| 1808s | power league right we still have people |
| 1811s | with level one characters |
| 1814s | grief playing arguably because they're |
| 1818s | not it's annoying everyone else and that |
| 1821s | is |
| 1821s | that is of course a problem and it's |
| 1823s | bigger problem now because of the |
| 1826s | stronger differences but but then public |
| 1828s | is something we want to rework |
| 1831s | so it's it's one of the next things we |
| 1833s | want to work on |
| 1835s | um we can't give you a date yet but it's |
| 1837s | gonna happen so we're designing it right |
| 1839s | now |
| 1840s | and when that is addressed that might be |
| 1843s | less of a problem for example |
| 1845s | and and there's so many other systems |
| 1847s | which is which are also connected to it |
| 1849s | some of which matter to us some of which |
| 1851s | don't you know like I know like uh yde |
| 1855s | and some other people that these level |
| 1857s | one accounts they've played really high |
| 1860s | and that's cool |
| 1863s | we appreciate the effort and it's really |
| 1865s | cool to see like someone hitting Masters |
| 1867s | or something with a level one account |
| 1869s | but we're not making the game for that |
| 1871s | case |
| 1872s | if anything now it will be big |
| 1874s | achievement that's true like bigger |
| 1877s | challenge yeah it's a bigger challenge |
| 1878s | now so |
| 1879s | so yeah I guess I guess there's this |
| 1881s | this mix back some of the systems are |
| 1883s | just affected by this change and some |
| 1885s | are not |
| 1886s | and most of the things will be fixed yep |
| 1889s | one funny story about the level one |
| 1892s | account like I got a complaint from a |
| 1894s | player who because you know how we |
| 1896s | introduce their engagement feature that |
| 1898s | if you're away from the game for a long |
| 1900s | time we have to create their Brawlers |
| 1904s | without their consent oh so they're like |
| 1907s | no My Level One account was it Ray no it |
| 1910s | was um gambates yeah |
| 1913s | um that's funny |
| 1915s | so like maybe like five people in |
| 1917s | millions of players yeah just keep |
| 1919s | opening your game every day then yeah |
| 1921s | and just to know I think you know that |
| 1924s | the change I think we talked about it a |
| 1926s | lot it was pretty contentious because |
| 1928s | you know as a as like a competitive PVP |
| 1930s | game player like when you hear that the |
| 1932s | initial reaction is like no no don't do |
| 1934s | that right because the point of |
| 1937s | satisfaction for competitive players is |
| 1939s | like we're on an even playing field and |
| 1941s | I beat you therefore I'm better that |
| 1943s | feels good you know but you know for all |
| 1945s | the points mentioned like yes you get |
| 1948s | gears and star Powers at certain levels |
| 1950s | and that's meaningful but you know |
| 1952s | there's there's actually nothing now for |
| 1954s | most Brawlers at 11 right there's |
| 1956s | nothing from you know one to six so |
| 1958s | making it feel more meaningful which is |
| 1961s | really important for brawl because in |
| 1963s | Brawl there are power levels and we have |
| 1966s | a whole economy and resources that you |
| 1968s | earn and use so so yeah yep okay next |
| 1973s | polemical topic the game change removal |
| 1977s | maybe like let's go to spend how do you |
| 1979s | feel about it yes tell us yeah oh |
| 1983s | I like I liked it I liked it it actually |
| 1985s | made me play ladder a lot more |
| 1987s | but oh |
| 1989s | well ah okay I like some things I didn't |
| 1994s | like is like I wanted well Heist was my |
| 1999s | favorite so I really enjoyed heists |
| 2001s | sometimes you'd log on the only problem |
| 2003s | with me is that maybe if you're logged |
| 2005s | on and it's like |
| 2006s | free bad Maps since I can't really play |
| 2009s | that and then there was no power League |
| 2010s | at the time that was only beginning of |
| 2011s | the update yeah |
| 2013s | but I think |
| 2015s | for me is the big one was gem grab was |
| 2019s | because gem grab's always been on |
| 2020s | rotation 24 7. so and it's such an easy |
| 2023s | gamer to play with randoms for me I have |
| 2025s | a better experience on German you won't |
| 2028s | think I you think I'll play with teams |
| 2030s | all the time I'll play randoms pretty |
| 2031s | much all the time I get my quest so |
| 2033s | you know I've kind of I'll go towards |
| 2035s | gem grabs so I get people's points that |
| 2038s | they wanted more choice |
| 2039s | maybe like five could be a nice in |
| 2042s | between but I don't me personally I |
| 2044s | don't think it's as big as a deal as |
| 2045s | lots of people played uh made out but |
| 2047s | that's because I play Power league so |
| 2048s | yeah I don't really play ladders too |
| 2050s | much but yeah I think it was a funny |
| 2053s | thing like I think I saw someone like a |
| 2055s | Creator complaining like I don't like |
| 2057s | this change blah blah and then at the |
| 2060s | moment the complaint was made I think we |
| 2062s | have like the hypercharge event a |
| 2064s | challenge like four game modes map maker |
| 2066s | like far league so there you can see |
| 2068s | like there's a lot of there's still a |
| 2070s | lot of things happening at the same time |
| 2071s | right |
| 2073s | I think yeah I think that was one of the |
| 2075s | main reasons why we wanted to change in |
| 2077s | the first place because over the years |
| 2079s | we've added more and more things to do |
| 2080s | right we we didn't have map maker |
| 2084s | that's two slots |
| 2085s | we we didn't have club events going on |
| 2088s | all the time that's another thing |
| 2091s | um then then of course like even public |
| 2095s | compared to |
| 2096s | our previous systems power play is is |
| 2099s | much more always on |
| 2101s | so there's just much more to do than we |
| 2103s | run more challenges |
| 2105s | more special events like something is |
| 2107s | constantly happening yeah and so |
| 2110s | we we never decreased the amount right |
| 2114s | we just added on top and on top and then |
| 2116s | what you're doing is even if you have a |
| 2119s | stable player base that you're |
| 2120s | fragmenting them more and more which |
| 2122s | then makes matchmaking slow on the high |
| 2124s | end degrades matchmaking quality and all |
| 2127s | of that now |
| 2129s | all of this being said and actually now |
| 2132s | we have some data |
| 2134s | yes matchmaking improvements on the top |
| 2137s | end top end is 750 plus trophies |
| 2140s | improved |
| 2141s | matchmaking is 20 percent |
| 2143s | a bit over 20 faster |
| 2145s | and the matchmaking quality so the |
| 2146s | difference between the lowest Trophy and |
| 2148s | the highest trophy player in that match |
| 2149s | is lower |
| 2151s | so that it kind of worked |
| 2154s | but on the other side for everyone under |
| 2157s | 750 trophies which is a majority of our |
| 2159s | players they just have less |
| 2162s | diversity of game modes and actually by |
| 2165s | the time this goes out |
| 2167s | uh we already have slots more maybe not |
| 2170s | I'm trying to finish this on Sunday okay |
| 2175s | apparently there's another spoiler |
| 2177s | everyone |
| 2178s | my God I keep the train rolling because |
| 2181s | it's still on the you have the drum roll |
| 2183s | there |
| 2184s | ah look oh I managed to cancel |
| 2188s | so long story short we are gonna bring |
| 2191s | back |
| 2192s | two slots |
| 2198s | delay there's like I have a mental leg |
| 2201s | okay so so yeah so gem grab will be back |
| 2205s | 24 7. knock out will have 24 7 rotation |
| 2209s | best mode ever um agreed and then the |
| 2213s | remaining slot goes to highest and Hot |
| 2216s | Zone in rotation both of them |
| 2218s | and see who have a big banner to be like |
| 2220s | a 48 hours |
| 2224s | 48 off 24 hours no |
| 2228s | um I guess those were the political |
| 2230s | things like there's a question questions |
| 2231s | from the players like at the end of the |
| 2234s | podcast so we'll touch on those topics |
| 2236s | again uh but I guess like before we go |
| 2240s | to the start drop update maybe you just |
| 2242s | want to review our decision with skins |
| 2245s | about the exclusivity |
| 2250s | yeah I mean if you follow me on Twitter |
| 2252s | if you likely already seen that I |
| 2254s | commented on this topic it was pretty |
| 2256s | low-key but |
| 2259s | yeah we've we've already made the |
| 2260s | decision that even though the the vote |
| 2262s | the the poll was of course largely in |
| 2265s | favor of bringing back exclusive skins |
| 2268s | uh as Danny pointed out before we really |
| 2270s | wanted to read through all the comments |
| 2272s | and really also discussed as a team and |
| 2274s | at the end as a team we didn't feel |
| 2276s | comfortable |
| 2277s | to bring back exclusive skins as is |
| 2280s | what we will do however is to bring back |
| 2283s | variations of those skins |
| 2286s | some might just be a recolor |
| 2288s | and and some might be a buffed version |
| 2291s | of the old version |
| 2293s | and some will come pretty soon |
| 2295s | yeah spent has has seen some of them |
| 2298s | what do you think you can say like it's |
| 2300s | good oh that I liked it that's exactly |
| 2303s | how I think I said I would want it like |
| 2305s | yeah I want to keep the same exclusive |
| 2308s | version and then different color |
| 2310s | variations I think that's the way to go |
| 2312s | so the ogs can keep the original yeah |
| 2316s | and then still even buy the you know |
| 2318s | even cooler version or the upgraded like |
| 2320s | Frank said so I think it's perfect the |
| 2323s | way you did it yeah and I'm happy as an |
| 2325s | exclusive skin owner |
| 2327s | yeah you keep it and then uh just like a |
| 2331s | retro like what we could have done |
| 2332s | better with that like I felt that since |
| 2335s | first like uh we taught us like what if |
| 2337s | we release a poll and then people vote |
| 2340s | and then we think about that but then I |
| 2342s | thought like maybe it's like a strong |
| 2344s | question that maybe if you put a poll |
| 2346s | right away they would just like shout |
| 2347s | and uh be really emotional about it so |
| 2350s | like that we did like in two steps right |
| 2352s | so the first one was just a discussion |
| 2354s | and I think the discussion was actually |
| 2355s | really healthy because we had people who |
| 2358s | had exclusive Kings they were saying I |
| 2360s | don't mind and that's I guess it was |
| 2362s | what we wanted to see right if like |
| 2364s | majority of like exclusivity uh skins |
| 2367s | owner they were just like I don't mind |
| 2368s | just bring it back but it wasn't the |
| 2371s | case like the the guys the people that |
| 2373s | had the exclusive Kings they they didn't |
| 2375s | want to lose this inclusivity and the |
| 2377s | poll result actually is in game I think |
| 2379s | it was 81 yes against 19. uh no but uh |
| 2385s | for us we are not making the decision |
| 2387s | based on those numbers right I think if |
| 2390s | we would go back maybe the poll was a |
| 2391s | mistake because it create like this |
| 2394s | Panic of like am I losing my exclusivity |
| 2397s | because it's like 81 against 19 like how |
| 2399s | can I win but we didn't from the get-go |
| 2402s | and even in the text we said like the |
| 2403s | poor result wouldn't the final decision |
| 2405s | and we're actually meanting it but um |
| 2409s | yeah it's more of a pulse check like how |
| 2411s | do people feel like on the other hand I |
| 2414s | really liked how we involve the |
| 2416s | community in the decision and then the |
| 2418s | solution actually came from then even |
| 2419s | though we didn't suggest recoloring or |
| 2421s | modifying they suggested that so I think |
| 2424s | it is that's good that's a cool thing |
| 2428s | so spoiling a skin no I'm just kidding |
| 2431s | you can I'm totally joking |
| 2436s | spoiled anything for like five minutes |
| 2438s | let me spoil yeah I spoiled enough |
| 2442s | already maybe I'm spotting something |
| 2443s | else |
| 2444s | throughout the next hour so man |
| 2447s | viewership race just went up |
| 2449s | stick around to the end to find out yeah |
| 2452s | and then yeah then I guess for the |
| 2454s | previous update and like burning topics |
| 2456s | I guess we've been through so like start |
| 2457s | drop update |
| 2459s | uh like we didn't have the chance to |
| 2461s | like uh talk about because he actually |
| 2463s | was it before July yeah yeah we we |
| 2466s | dropped update and then we had a break |
| 2468s | right yeah yeah yeah so then we didn't |
| 2471s | have the time to talk about and it was |
| 2475s | like almost a successful update of the |
| 2478s | Year yes and it was the one that had a |
| 2481s | bit controversy because like bling and |
| 2484s | Mastery was like yeah let's go Community |
| 2487s | is happy and then we didn't move the |
| 2490s | needles as we wanted so how do you feel |
| 2492s | about the start drops or maybe like |
| 2496s | without like looking at data yeah |
| 2499s | I think star drops pretty much perfect I |
| 2502s | think in terms of Max yeah in terms of |
| 2505s | Max playoffs |
| 2508s | I thought it was good they added a bit |
| 2510s | of excitement back it added |
| 2512s | the chance to get cool Cosmetics again I |
| 2515s | have to go to my free to play account to |
| 2517s | like really experience it uh but I think |
| 2519s | it was good I think the only big |
| 2521s | Community feedback I saw when I asked |
| 2523s | questions was the fact that maybe well |
| 2526s | there's a few things you've already |
| 2527s | spoke about like stacking it because |
| 2530s | I don't know how you guys feel about it |
| 2531s | but I'd love to you know even if it's |
| 2533s | just stacking 10 because then out of |
| 2535s | those 10 I might be able to get like one |
| 2537s | Mythic or one legendary it's a lot more |
| 2539s | exciting in that moment and |
| 2542s | the other one was maybe a few tweets to |
| 2545s | legendary drops it's the fact like say |
| 2548s | if you get a legend drop and you get |
| 2549s | like a gadget install power that was the |
| 2551s | one that probably annoyed people a |
| 2553s | little bit more so than others I don't |
| 2555s | know how you tweak that but like for |
| 2558s | example if I was on the free-to-play |
| 2560s | account and I've just unlocked I don't |
| 2562s | know fast forward and Shelly I'm never |
| 2564s | gonna play that anyway so you get what I |
| 2566s | mean it's not exciting whereas maybe it |
| 2568s | feels just even if it was 29 gem skin |
| 2570s | that would be very exciting as a free to |
| 2572s | play but that's probably my only grudges |
| 2574s | with star drops I think just adding |
| 2576s | something exciting to the game like how |
| 2578s | broad boxes felt but whilst not being |
| 2580s | like demotivating you know it's not |
| 2583s | you're not relying off star drops you |
| 2585s | know I mean it's a nice addition to get |
| 2587s | cool Cosmetics that you might not have |
| 2589s | otherwise got |
| 2590s | yeah I think maybe piggybacking on that |
| 2592s | a bit like I think one of the major |
| 2594s | challenges in in the star drop design as |
| 2596s | well were what are the exciting things |
| 2598s | for players that each given Rarity right |
| 2600s | like we can go on forever about this and |
| 2602s | this answer will also change again |
| 2604s | depending on what kind of player you are |
| 2605s | so I think I think that's a that's a |
| 2607s | real Challenge and it's something where |
| 2608s | of course still still kind of trying to |
| 2610s | improve and figure out as we go |
| 2614s | yeah I think from my side |
| 2617s | I'm obviously highly biased by by the |
| 2620s | numbers right and I know as a matter of |
| 2624s | fact that it's been all best update this |
| 2627s | year |
| 2628s | uh it did the most for the community at |
| 2630s | large but not necessarily even for |
| 2632s | players like myself right for me it's |
| 2635s | like |
| 2636s | it's like I'm in the stupid situation |
| 2639s | where I've |
| 2640s | I think I have 340 000 token doubles on |
| 2644s | my main account |
| 2647s | and |
| 2648s | and |
| 2649s | the the the tuning just made that |
| 2651s | problem worse so there's there's no way |
| 2654s | that I I there's it's impossible for me |
| 2657s | to lose more token doubles than I have |
| 2659s | and to earn so so even with a nervous |
| 2662s | nerves now you know I have to play like |
| 2665s | 10 years or something to get rid of the |
| 2667s | token doubles so that's but it almost |
| 2670s | doesn't bother me as a max player |
| 2672s | because it's just there it just happens |
| 2675s | um |
| 2676s | but besides that of course there's not |
| 2678s | much excitement for me going on with the |
| 2679s | star drop right it's coins maybe |
| 2682s | PowerPoints and nothing else because I'm |
| 2685s | always maxed there's a new skin coming |
| 2686s | out a new roller coming out I'm getting |
| 2688s | that right away because I want to play I |
| 2690s | want to have that skin |
| 2692s | so so for me as a max players like |
| 2694s | yeah it's not too exciting I actually |
| 2696s | tried to think of you know what can we |
| 2698s | do for people like maybe spend with your |
| 2700s | max account or you I guess you're also |
| 2702s | maxed |
| 2704s | um |
| 2705s | like some people will probably hate me |
| 2707s | for saying that but if you just would |
| 2709s | drip feed me Fame |
| 2712s | yeah like I would take it you know I |
| 2715s | would take it I would be happily by |
| 2716s | giving me batches of like 50 Fame here |
| 2718s | and there like or even less on the on |
| 2720s | the you know it could be even like I |
| 2722s | don't know there could be a chance of |
| 2724s | getting some Fame directly from Star |
| 2725s | drops and then I I can promise you I |
| 2728s | wouldn't miss out on a single star drop |
| 2729s | well right now I'm like |
| 2731s | you know I don't have time to play today |
| 2733s | I do my deities quickly but then that's |
| 2735s | it what if you can convert your token |
| 2738s | doublers into Fame |
| 2741s | take it I take it Bring it on Bring it |
| 2743s | on Jeff |
| 2744s | no and but but I think there's a lot to |
| 2746s | be said about tuning in general |
| 2748s | and making you know we already started |
| 2750s | tuning reducing token doubles there will |
| 2752s | be more tuning moving forward even with |
| 2754s | the next update |
| 2756s | um and we |
| 2757s | like I think one one interesting point |
| 2760s | as you said you can argue like should a |
| 2762s | Gadget Drop from |
| 2764s | an epic |
| 2765s | startup or not okay I don't know the |
| 2768s | answer to that it's it's mostly like |
| 2770s | trying it out playing around with |
| 2771s | different values it could have a |
| 2773s | significantly lower drop chance you know |
| 2775s | in an epic than in a legendary box and |
| 2778s | then there's one one of the cool things |
| 2779s | about Mega boxes was |
| 2781s | that you could have multiple drops of |
| 2783s | things that's something we're also |
| 2786s | discussing like can we bring some of |
| 2787s | that back because if you wouldn't only |
| 2789s | get a gadget but you would also get some |
| 2791s | coins and some Powerpoints and maybe a |
| 2793s | pin you know like yeah maybe that would |
| 2796s | feel very different yeah um |
| 2798s | what about you Jeff I mean yeah I've |
| 2801s | counted like three spoilers oh wow |
| 2806s | um I only said three things |
| 2808s | he's efficient well yeah I think anytime |
| 2812s | we design a feature like we have so many |
| 2815s | ideas on how to make it cooler and what |
| 2819s | goes out always has a bunch of stuff |
| 2822s | that's left over and things we couldn't |
| 2824s | get to in time |
| 2825s | so yeah I think I there's a lot more |
| 2828s | cool things we want to do with we wanted |
| 2830s | to do and still want to deal with star |
| 2832s | drop |
| 2833s | um yeah I think the feeling you know if |
| 2836s | you kind of you know I you know I I |
| 2838s | wasn't on the theme when Mega Box was |
| 2840s | around |
| 2840s | um but obviously it was a player and I |
| 2842s | kind of went back to kind of watch some |
| 2844s | of the videos of the it feels so awesome |
| 2846s | Star drop doesn't feel as awesome for |
| 2849s | sure right like at the same time it's |
| 2851s | it's kind of a but it's also a different |
| 2853s | mechanic like Mega boxes value versus a |
| 2856s | daily engagement star drop it's very |
| 2858s | different right we can't give the same |
| 2861s | amount of things but I do think like you |
| 2864s | said Frank we got you know making that |
| 2866s | feel better there are ways to do that |
| 2869s | um so yeah we want to work on that and |
| 2871s | improve that |
| 2873s | uh on the gadget on the gadget stuff |
| 2876s | um |
| 2877s | I think yeah it does suck getting a |
| 2879s | gadget for a brawler that you don't like |
| 2882s | or a sucky Gadget I think the second |
| 2884s | Gadget part is is solvable right yeah it |
| 2888s | should be yeah right there yeah |
| 2890s | yeah |
| 2892s | so you hear her here first Adrian's |
| 2895s | gonna solve all this stuff yeah all the |
| 2896s | suckers |
| 2898s | um but yeah I think one of the goals for |
| 2900s | the feature is we we do want to |
| 2903s | encourage you to try Brawlers that you |
| 2905s | normally don't play |
| 2906s | um I think for braless it is important |
| 2908s | for us to kind of encourage you not |
| 2910s | require you but encourage you to try and |
| 2913s | play with all your brothers so I think |
| 2915s | that's it's in there for that |
| 2918s | um now it does take away some you know I |
| 2921s | think some of the comments where well I |
| 2923s | get less gold I don't get Freedom Choice |
| 2925s | which is also true but we also take that |
| 2927s | into account when we when we balance |
| 2928s | things we actually don't value gadgets |
| 2930s | as you know in Star Powers as like one |
| 2933s | thousand two thousand coins we value |
| 2934s | them much less actually for the startups |
| 2937s | yeah for the star drops and we do |
| 2938s | balancing so so that is taken into |
| 2940s | consideration dramatically actually |
| 2943s | um and then on stacking uh no spoilers |
| 2948s | but wait we have a sneak peek moment oh |
| 2951s | yeah maybe a case File there yeah no I |
| 2953s | said no spoilers yeah he's literally |
| 2954s | said no spoilers but yeah |
| 2958s | that's it no no spoilers all right then |
| 2961s | yeah later in the podcast we will reveal |
| 2963s | what Jeff wants something I've known |
| 2965s | left oh my God but um what is it gonna |
| 2970s | say ah like the question that players |
| 2973s | are asking is it a buff to progression |
| 2975s | Jeff |
| 2978s | it depends |
| 2980s | on where you are so uh |
| 2985s | shout out to Lynn who's our amazing |
| 2987s | analyst |
| 2988s | um I don't know wait can we say like |
| 2990s | pull up this graph yeah |
| 2993s | pull up pull up the graph so if you are |
| 2996s | like only listening like tuning on |
| 2998s | YouTube right now and put on this part |
| 3000s | because then there's some visuals |
| 3001s | imagine this graph |
| 3004s | so like yeah we're giving out way more |
| 3007s | coins and PowerPoints um versus pre-star |
| 3009s | drop like that is a fact |
| 3013s | um but I think |
| 3014s | when you look at brawl's economy today |
| 3016s | if you're a hyper engaged player you |
| 3019s | play a lot you engage with Club League |
| 3021s | power League all the features you get a |
| 3025s | lot |
| 3026s | um in the game |
| 3027s | but if you're a more casual player or |
| 3028s | you know you're a weekend warrior or you |
| 3031s | know you kind of dabble every day but |
| 3032s | you know maybe you're not in a club you |
| 3034s | get a lot less so what we want to do is |
| 3038s | we want to make sure obviously you get |
| 3041s | more for engaging more we we want that |
| 3043s | that is definitely true but it's a |
| 3045s | little bit off balance right now where |
| 3048s | the Casual player is getting too little |
| 3050s | right so the idea was star drop was we |
| 3054s | wanted to move some of the tail rewards |
| 3055s | because most casual players don't get |
| 3058s | that we want it to move some of the club |
| 3059s | League Awards especially at the top rank |
| 3061s | because most players don't get that and |
| 3063s | kind of move it move it into this really |
| 3065s | easy to access daily reward |
| 3068s | um |
| 3068s | uh method so uh but even with that said |
| 3072s | even if you're a top engaged player with |
| 3075s | everything considered uh you should not |
| 3077s | be getting less I think perceptionally |
| 3079s | it is it feels that's right because when |
| 3081s | you you know when you complete the club |
| 3083s | League week or or Quest you get this big |
| 3085s | chunk and a flight like I feel oh yeah I |
| 3087s | got a bunch of stuff right but then you |
| 3089s | know when you're claiming star drop and |
| 3090s | it kind of trickles in you know 50 gold |
| 3093s | 100 token doublers like it doesn't |
| 3095s | doesn't feel the same right but I think |
| 3098s | if you |
| 3099s | if you do the math and you add it up you |
| 3101s | know at the end of the season you know |
| 3103s | we're we are giving out more |
| 3106s | and and I think that is something we |
| 3108s | want to continue to do which is kind of |
| 3109s | democratizing the rewards in the game |
| 3111s | making sure we take care of the Casual |
| 3114s | players and in The Weekend Warriors as |
| 3116s | well um yeah yeah and I think you said |
| 3118s | everything uh the the issue I think the |
| 3121s | main issue we have is that it's not |
| 3122s | visual right you don't see you are |
| 3125s | getting more but like if you look at our |
| 3126s | graph like it's just that it it's very |
| 3129s | clear it's not even like a mild Ascent |
| 3131s | right it's like very high that's |
| 3132s | actually yeah we're giving more and it |
| 3134s | just it's uh it's matte like this the |
| 3137s | pool of resources we're putting out it's |
| 3139s | bigger than it was before right so like |
| 3141s | we are giving out more resources even |
| 3144s | like if you are getting a ping or |
| 3146s | getting a cosmetic like we are giving |
| 3148s | out more coins and PowerPoints but |
| 3151s | that's still a good point though like |
| 3153s | yeah yeah but that's still a good point |
| 3156s | though because if we are giving out more |
| 3157s | it's also important that you feel that |
| 3159s | yeah the other part I think that's this |
| 3162s | what we need to solve like because we |
| 3164s | know we're giving out more but if you |
| 3165s | don't feel that yeah fundamentally |
| 3167s | somewhere along the line we need to |
| 3169s | improve so you actually feel that way as |
| 3171s | well because that's the worst thing |
| 3172s | scenario could be like we buffed |
| 3174s | progression but then people think it's a |
| 3176s | Nerf it's like we got like the worst of |
| 3178s | two words |
| 3180s | um but would you say I did achieve our |
| 3183s | goals |
| 3184s | yeah yeah so yes I did yeah it we wanted |
| 3188s | more engagement we got more engagement |
| 3189s | yes |
| 3191s | um how do you guys feel about the eight |
| 3192s | Wings everyone is happy doing their |
| 3195s | eight daily Wings how do you feel spent |
| 3197s | too much too little yeah I think I wins |
| 3199s | is perfect |
| 3200s | how many games do it takes to get eight |
| 3204s | wins |
| 3205s | um random's about 20. |
| 3213s | I understand maybe you are trying to |
| 3214s | like pick the browser from the quest in |
| 3216s | the game mode you try to max out right |
| 3218s | and then yeah it comes pretty quick |
| 3220s | especially if I'm with a team it's not |
| 3223s | too grindy in my opinion because you can |
| 3226s | always stop it like four if you don't I |
| 3228s | haven't got time for eight if you're in |
| 3230s | a rush I'll probably just quickly do |
| 3231s | four or just missing out one star |
| 3233s | dropper days in the end of the world but |
| 3235s | I don't think it's too demotivating I |
| 3238s | think it's perfect amount pretty much in |
| 3241s | my opinion yeah I totally thought you |
| 3243s | were just gonna be like eight yeah or |
| 3245s | nine or something yeah but and also like |
| 3248s | just one thing that you said like you |
| 3249s | would like to see the the gadgets on |
| 3251s | different drops and like they they have |
| 3254s | like a certain value attached to that |
| 3255s | right it's like we of course like we can |
| 3258s | reshuffle it but then we need to change |
| 3260s | the the odds right it's like if uh if |
| 3263s | for legendary you would only get like |
| 3266s | the best things ever then legendary |
| 3268s | drops would have to be a lot rarer like |
| 3271s | I think it's now five |
| 3272s | four percent I don't remember anymore |
| 3274s | but it's it's a lot more than a |
| 3276s | legendary brawler in a Mega Box for |
| 3277s | example yeah it is it's higher yeah |
| 3280s | um |
| 3281s | but yeah |
| 3283s | we went to progression what could we |
| 3286s | have done better |
| 3288s | with startups yeah |
| 3290s | hmm |
| 3292s | I mean I think I think it goes back to |
| 3294s | what we mentioned about the feeling of |
| 3295s | what you're getting versus what you're |
| 3297s | actually getting being more yeah I think |
| 3299s | I think that's that's the major point we |
| 3301s | could have done better who gave the idea |
| 3303s | of like that you see the items scrolling |
| 3305s | so like you see all the pool of items |
| 3307s | you can get maybe that would feel oh |
| 3309s | yeah better yeah I think it's adjusted |
| 3312s | by a few people for sure |
| 3314s | um |
| 3315s | yeah I think the reason why we didn't go |
| 3317s | with that is because we didn't want to |
| 3321s | commit yeah like we didn't want it to be |
| 3326s | fake you know a lot of games do that |
| 3328s | where they kind of show you like oh you |
| 3330s | can get this but you just missed it but |
| 3332s | in reality you didn't you're never |
| 3333s | getting that yeah and like we didn't |
| 3335s | want to do that and you know I think you |
| 3337s | said it Frank which is like we don't |
| 3339s | want this to be a slot machine you know |
| 3341s | like we you know we have kids that play |
| 3343s | the game you know so I think it's a good |
| 3347s | mechanic |
| 3348s | not I don't think we found thought of a |
| 3351s | way to do that Tastefully I see |
| 3354s | I think overall like again I'm just very |
| 3359s | very happy with how things worked out in |
| 3361s | general |
| 3362s | like the the tap mechanic I think is |
| 3364s | really fun |
| 3365s | I think I think that we have like this |
| 3368s | this little annoyance with a waiting |
| 3371s | time at the end that is something we're |
| 3374s | gonna fix |
| 3375s | you know but but besides that like |
| 3379s | the the defeat I think the the major the |
| 3381s | major things from the old Mega Box world |
| 3384s | is really like having multiple drops |
| 3386s | there I think that was always super cool |
| 3389s | so you like I guess that was also that |
| 3392s | moment of anticipation with a number and |
| 3394s | all of that |
| 3395s | I'm not sure we need to bring that back |
| 3397s | but |
| 3398s | but I I think that feeling of multiple |
| 3400s | jobs is is just really cool |
| 3403s | is loading time fix a spoiler |
| 3406s | we should get a counter Gunner |
| 3410s | yeah yeah I think it's it's a bug fix it |
| 3414s | is yeah |
| 3415s | cool then I guess we are done with the |
| 3419s | Retros then you can have the sneak peek |
| 3424s | oh well so Jeff what do you want what |
| 3427s | did you want to say in that moment I |
| 3430s | forbid you too oh really are we actually |
| 3432s | spoiling yeah yeah yeah that's the sneak |
| 3435s | peek moment like the things Frank said |
| 3438s | it was like a bonus |
| 3440s | yeah there's so much coming wait don't |
| 3443s | don't do that okay all right yeah you |
| 3446s | wanted to say like the stacking star |
| 3448s | drops things that led you to yeah I mean |
| 3451s | I think to set expectations like we're |
| 3454s | not gonna do stacking on Star drops I |
| 3457s | don't think that's the right place for |
| 3458s | it |
| 3459s | um it creates all kinds of ux |
| 3461s | complications |
| 3463s | um but we are working on something new |
| 3466s | um we haven't named it yet |
| 3469s | have |
| 3472s | the word |
| 3474s | Omega in it it could it could it could |
| 3477s | it could uh that's all I'll say |
| 3480s | that's all I'll say well maybe you can |
| 3482s | say |
| 3483s | um it's a chance of getting lots of star |
| 3485s | drops in one goal yeah yeah we're |
| 3488s | working on a new feature |
| 3490s | um uh it's more social oriented and kind |
| 3493s | of a group goal to kind of fill up this |
| 3496s | thing I don't want to say what the thing |
| 3498s | is but and actually because you said |
| 3501s | already in the roadmap that we are |
| 3504s | working on Club improving oh okay yeah |
| 3507s | it's already yeah oh okay yeah yeah okay |
| 3509s | yeah yeah yeah we we feel like Club |
| 3512s | league is super complex today I think |
| 3515s | you know it causes a lot of confusion |
| 3516s | for new players those are grindy yeah |
| 3519s | yeah it's pretty grindy like it feels |
| 3521s | like a chore so we wanted to kind of |
| 3523s | like think about that from the ground up |
| 3525s | like what is a fun |
| 3527s | like easy to understand group activity |
| 3529s | that's also a lot of fun that that |
| 3532s | hopefully doesn't become a chore |
| 3535s | um and and the reward for it you know |
| 3537s | it's this really awesome |
| 3540s | uh |
| 3542s | animal container |
| 3546s | yeah and then you know it'll get filled |
| 3549s | with resources and yeah and some star |
| 3551s | drops in it and when you open that |
| 3554s | it'll be a stack of star drops so I |
| 3557s | think I think that would be pretty cool |
| 3558s | yeah yeah no way |
| 3560s | all right that was this big sneak peek |
| 3563s | moment uh now we are going yes picnic |
| 3566s | moment now we are going to questions |
| 3570s | from the players |
| 3574s | um so TMT the Great |
| 3578s | it's like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle |
| 3580s | what what does it say about your |
| 3582s | character when you call yourself the |
| 3583s | Great |
| 3585s | uh so he's saying gold became scars |
| 3589s | recently you guys added hypercharged for |
| 3591s | Gold without buffing the gold economy |
| 3593s | also Club League rewards and but |
| 3596s | um |
| 3597s | PowerPoints yeah |
| 3601s | of course and rewards we're nerfed I had |
| 3605s | the tail rewards uh from which majority |
| 3607s | of the gold came from any chance you |
| 3609s | guys can increase the gold amount |
| 3611s | through a battle |
| 3613s | um broadcast or any other source |
| 3618s | do you want to take it Jeff yeah um |
| 3620s | okay like long form answer |
| 3623s | I think |
| 3625s | I think |
| 3626s | brawl is like a super special game it |
| 3628s | has like probably the highest action per |
| 3631s | minute or even action per second like |
| 3633s | super condensed fun |
| 3635s | you know I think for us at least |
| 3637s | definitely for me and I think for |
| 3639s | everybody here like we want brawl to be |
| 3641s | number one on mobile you know and it's |
| 3644s | hard making a live mobile game |
| 3646s | it's every game is kind of like subject |
| 3649s | to the gravity of the market |
| 3651s | um and you know when games |
| 3654s | decline that you have less players you |
| 3657s | ultimately make less money and what that |
| 3659s | means is you can reinvest less there's |
| 3661s | less money for marketing for Esports for |
| 3663s | Community stuff for for brand for |
| 3666s | commercials for awesome trailer |
| 3667s | everything right so I think for us it's |
| 3669s | like we do have to monetize the game |
| 3672s | better and or at least try to and that's |
| 3675s | not because you know we're like greedy |
| 3676s | or something like because that's kind of |
| 3679s | one of the key components to try to grow |
| 3681s | the game again |
| 3682s | and with that said you know when we |
| 3685s | think about balancing the economy |
| 3688s | it's no we don't want to like pinch you |
| 3690s | and try to make you spend you know right |
| 3693s | away right like we want you to unlock a |
| 3695s | bunch of brawlers you want you to level |
| 3697s | up a bunch of brawlers pretty easily if |
| 3699s | you want to unlock dozens of brawlers |
| 3701s | you can do that take some time but you |
| 3704s | can totally do that and Max them out and |
| 3706s | that's okay but if you want to unlock |
| 3708s | all the Brawlers and Max them all out |
| 3711s | especially quickly I think it's a fair |
| 3713s | moment to kind of politely ask like hey |
| 3716s | you should spend some money if you want |
| 3717s | to do that right lightly yeah yeah and |
| 3720s | you know and really it's just it's to |
| 3722s | support the game and help the Game grow |
| 3724s | you know so kind of like with that was a |
| 3727s | long way of saying |
| 3728s | um |
| 3729s | yes we did we did add you know more gold |
| 3732s | coin requirement to the economy I think |
| 3734s | we do think about hey what are some cool |
| 3737s | ways to give up more gold in the right |
| 3739s | moments |
| 3740s | um I think tail reward as a design I |
| 3744s | think we're really rethinking in terms |
| 3745s | of what that accomplishes it's dead |
| 3752s | yeah so um but yeah I think you know as |
| 3755s | a as a |
| 3757s | super engaged player who is used to kind |
| 3759s | of like unlocking everything pretty |
| 3761s | quickly after every update like it feels |
| 3764s | bad to get less like you know straight |
| 3765s | up but at the same time you know we do |
| 3768s | have to balance it in a way where like |
| 3769s | we have to think about the health of |
| 3770s | brawl we do have to think about the |
| 3771s | monetization of the game |
| 3773s | um |
| 3774s | so so I think the short answer is yeah |
| 3777s | we do want to increase the coins in some |
| 3779s | way in smart ways at the right moments |
| 3782s | um but I think you know straight up |
| 3784s | buffing the tail reward is probably not |
| 3787s | the right way to do that yeah and for |
| 3789s | the record because like you said gold |
| 3791s | became scars we actually buffed already |
| 3794s | but they thought there's a perception |
| 3795s | problem right of course like when we |
| 3797s | introduce hyper charge four coins it's |
| 3799s | um |
| 3800s | uh we did like uh touch on the economy |
| 3803s | of the game but we actually did buffed |
| 3806s | with the star drops update so even |
| 3807s | before yeah and I think we we actually |
| 3810s | did a I'll say like I I think we did a |
| 3812s | bad job on that because if you think |
| 3814s | about the terror rewards we actually |
| 3816s | give you a lot of token doublers and you |
| 3819s | actually get more tail rewards than |
| 3821s | before yeah but then we also nerve tail |
| 3823s | rewards so it's like I'm on balanced |
| 3824s | like there's less but like it's actually |
| 3826s | not that much less yeah than people |
| 3829s | perceive it to be |
| 3831s | um but yeah coming back to like the |
| 3833s | demographation of the economy like tail |
| 3835s | rewards is one of the places where only |
| 3837s | a really small percentage of the player |
| 3839s | base grind to and get you know 100 plus |
| 3842s | levels of most not even most like 99 of |
| 3847s | players don't do that |
| 3849s | um so so yeah a lot of average players |
| 3852s | don't even hit the end of the broadcast |
| 3854s | I think it's like |
| 3858s | yeah it's just the the average player |
| 3860s | does not hit the end of broadcast yeah |
| 3862s | which Is Not Great by the way |
| 3864s | yeah like when we are rethinking you |
| 3866s | know imagine brawl brawl passes as a |
| 3868s | rework thing for the future as well like |
| 3870s | part of thinking about that is like how |
| 3873s | can we make that better |
| 3875s | um |
| 3878s | one one thing Jeff touched on a little |
| 3880s | bit |
| 3881s | that there is like |
| 3884s | when when players tell us oh it's |
| 3885s | impossible to Max my account as a new |
| 3888s | player yeah |
| 3890s | yeah it's pretty tough of course it's |
| 3892s | tough |
| 3894s | but it's also not how most people play |
| 3896s | the game |
| 3897s | most people do not play all the Brawlers |
| 3901s | I can tell you I'm I'm pretty engaged |
| 3903s | okay but I'm probably regularly not |
| 3906s | playing more than |
| 3907s | 15 Brothers Maybe |
| 3910s | and every every every other brawler in |
| 3912s | that list there's literally quests I'm |
| 3914s | rerolling when when I get those notes |
| 3916s | better because of more multiple broader |
| 3919s | quests but before I rewrote a lot of |
| 3921s | quests with a broader I'm like ah nah I |
| 3924s | don't mind playing that brawler has |
| 3925s | nothing to do with that brother being |
| 3927s | bad or good it's more like play style |
| 3928s | preferences yeah |
| 3930s | so |
| 3932s | I there's so few people who really play |
| 3935s | all the brothers |
| 3937s | it's it's insane really not even the |
| 3940s | pros most of the pros have a smaller |
| 3942s | roster of Brothers they keep playing |
| 3943s | yeah like 10 20 Brawlers Maybe |
| 3947s | and everything out there is not comfort |
| 3948s | zone and it's not you know like oh |
| 3951s | someone in the team needs to play tank |
| 3952s | okay probably not Danny like because |
| 3956s | he's not he's not big on playing tanks |
| 3958s | it's not what he likes to play |
| 3959s | but give him a sniper you know and he's |
| 3961s | killing it so it's like |
| 3965s | I think when you when when the starting |
| 3967s | point of the discussion is |
| 3969s | I cannot Max my account free to play |
| 3971s | easily |
| 3972s | that's |
| 3974s | that sounds really weird for me in my |
| 3976s | head because it's a and not how most |
| 3978s | people are playing |
| 3979s | and also to be honest like I don't quite |
| 3982s | understand why people feel it needs to |
| 3984s | be like that to begin with |
| 3987s | because like |
| 3990s | for all the points Jeff just made we |
| 3992s | want to keep developing this game for |
| 3994s | years and years we want to keep doing |
| 3995s | cool animations we want to keep doing |
| 3997s | Esports |
| 3998s | we need money for that yeah and I and I |
| 4002s | think just to say like it's not like |
| 4004s | okay forget these kind of you know end |
| 4006s | game Masters forget that like we think a |
| 4009s | lot about you know your experience and |
| 4012s | we want to make sure your experience is |
| 4013s | still really good |
| 4015s | um but there are I think areas where we |
| 4016s | need to tune back |
| 4018s | um and think about you know the other 99 |
| 4020s | players and and have that on balance |
| 4023s | I mean and we've we've done decisions in |
| 4025s | that direction before right when when |
| 4027s | you think when we transition to the Star |
| 4029s | Road |
| 4031s | one of the goals there was like after |
| 4033s | one year of playing the average player |
| 4035s | didn't even have one legendary |
| 4037s | now it's too guaranteed |
| 4040s | so I was like |
| 4043s | we made it a little bit harder in some |
| 4045s | some place but easier in other places |
| 4047s | but at the end of the day it needs to |
| 4049s | balance out and Yeah to be honest like |
| 4052s | if you start a new account today |
| 4053s | and you know I want to play these 15 |
| 4055s | Brothers |
| 4057s | then you will mix them pretty quickly in |
| 4060s | the like easily in Year One the 15 |
| 4062s | rollers you really want to play you will |
| 4064s | have them all mixed as a free-to-play |
| 4066s | player and I think that's you know |
| 4069s | really the direction yeah and I guess |
| 4071s | you can also look at the |
| 4074s | you can shout out to Kairos because he's |
| 4076s | doing the video play uh account and if |
| 4079s | you look at the progress in one year |
| 4080s | because of course he's doing everything |
| 4082s | that is possible right he's trying to |
| 4083s | max out everything that he can |
| 4085s | and he unlocked like I don't know 40 50 |
| 4088s | Brothers already like they're putting |
| 4090s | like their top ones on par level nine |
| 4092s | they're unlocking one Gadget one star |
| 4094s | part it's like you you have the freedom |
| 4096s | on how to upgrade your account so that's |
| 4098s | um something that other games usually |
| 4100s | don't have uh so like uh in as you said |
| 4103s | like some players pay play I know 10 |
| 4104s | Brawlers and that's enough right because |
| 4106s | you have like multiple snipers multiple |
| 4108s | tanks and maybe the tank you don't need |
| 4110s | like a specific brawler to play the role |
| 4114s | that you need for the map like if it's a |
| 4115s | tank might be enough |
| 4117s | um but yeah and then I think another |
| 4119s | thing is that it's a very fine line of |
| 4122s | where |
| 4124s | like if it's too easy the game gets |
| 4126s | boring if it's too hard it's also very |
| 4129s | uh annoying and you don't want to play |
| 4130s | so then it has to be like if you're |
| 4132s | super engaged you still have to like |
| 4134s | Chase what things you want but if you |
| 4137s | are casual like you still need to feel |
| 4139s | rewarded for you like your a little |
| 4141s | investment right so it's something that |
| 4143s | we have to I know compact the the edges |
| 4146s | or something like that and I don't think |
| 4148s | like just maybe close this |
| 4150s | I I don't think there's a right or wrong |
| 4152s | answer on |
| 4154s | how much RNG and rewards versus you |
| 4157s | having a choice is the right way |
| 4160s | it's just a |
| 4162s | from an economy design perspective it's |
| 4164s | a matter of fact thing that if you the |
| 4166s | more RNG you have the more generous you |
| 4169s | can be yeah exactly right going back to |
| 4171s | the I want to play these 15 Brawlers if |
| 4174s | we give you full choice we need to be |
| 4175s | more stingy |
| 4177s | because you would just pick those 15 |
| 4178s | Brawlers and then you don't care about |
| 4180s | anything else in the game anymore |
| 4182s | that's not only bad from a monetization |
| 4185s | perspective that's also bad from a you |
| 4187s | sticking around perspective because if |
| 4189s | you have no more goals towards work into |
| 4191s | then why why are you playing |
| 4194s | so so I think |
| 4196s | and we will never be in a perfect spot |
| 4198s | there right it will be right now we're |
| 4200s | in this balance with Star Road and the |
| 4202s | star drops leading heavier into star |
| 4204s | drops now because we feel for the |
| 4206s | majority of players it's just better |
| 4208s | and also they will try out Brawlers they |
| 4210s | wouldn't have tried out without star |
| 4212s | drops which is also an important thing |
| 4214s | because sometimes you just don't know if |
| 4215s | you don't try it out if you will like it |
| 4217s | yeah so so I think and in the future |
| 4220s | we'll see more changes it will just |
| 4222s | constantly develop and evolve and |
| 4224s | sometimes we will eat heavier on the RNG |
| 4226s | side and sometimes we're really heavier |
| 4228s | on the you have a say in this side and |
| 4230s | there's just a constantly evolving thing |
| 4233s | so don't expect that things will stay |
| 4235s | the same forever because it's not going |
| 4237s | to happen |
| 4238s | and I guess like instead of just like |
| 4241s | before I go to the next question spend |
| 4243s | do you have any burning questions for us |
| 4246s | what |
| 4247s | in general or yeah it can be anything |
| 4249s | that now it's oh an eye for me on the |
| 4251s | spot like Harry can go to the questions |
| 4253s | and then you think yeah I think leave it |
| 4255s | towards the end okay I was just gonna go |
| 4256s | off the broadcast thing as well is that |
| 4260s | you know I did a free spray account and |
| 4262s | the way I everyone plays the game |
| 4263s | differently but you know like Frank said |
| 4265s | I only use like 10 15 Brawlers and I got |
| 4268s | pretty much all of them to power 10 |
| 4270s | power 11 pretty fast through Club League |
| 4273s | playing the game a lot and I was really |
| 4275s | surprised how quickly I ranked up my |
| 4277s | Brawlers you know I got |
| 4278s | uh well you know I'm an exception I got |
| 4281s | Masters pretty quick from just literally |
| 4283s | as I wanted to show people you don't |
| 4284s | have to spend anything as long as you |
| 4287s | know how to progress your account |
| 4289s | properly put it in the right spaces you |
| 4291s | know don't put it on Brawlers you're not |
| 4293s | good with and in that sense you know I |
| 4296s | even as a pro I could only play like 10 |
| 4297s | Brawlers so it is down to you how you |
| 4300s | play the game and you've just got to be |
| 4302s | clever with it in a sense you can't |
| 4304s | expect |
| 4305s | really to spend zero and have everyone |
| 4308s | locked within a year it's just not |
| 4311s | it's just not how the game won't be able |
| 4313s | to survive like if everyone will just |
| 4315s | have everything yeah yeah |
| 4318s | so now through the magic of Cinema we |
| 4320s | just had a break but for you guys |
| 4322s | nothing happened look how amazing it is |
| 4324s | amazing so the second question we have |
| 4327s | um do you plan to change anything about |
| 4328s | PowerPoint economy currently we have a |
| 4330s | ton of PowerPoints but not enough gold |
| 4332s | uh so we are constantly uh on full |
| 4335s | PowerPoint |
| 4337s | it's not a spoiler right it's it'll be |
| 4339s | out it won't but yeah oh oh it could be |
| 4342s | because that's a radio sport it's fine |
| 4345s | just yeah I think we're removing the |
| 4347s | PowerPoint cap I think the the idea of |
| 4349s | the PowerPoint cap is you know is trying |
| 4352s | to encourage you to go level up |
| 4353s | different Brawlers that you may not |
| 4356s | either know or want to |
| 4358s | and you know it's kind of like a really |
| 4361s | forceful mechanic and and again it's you |
| 4364s | know causing some bad user experience |
| 4366s | and we don't want that so yeah remove it |
| 4369s | yeah and then the coin uh is we are |
| 4372s | getting more coins that drops but then |
| 4373s | less power points as well right yeah so |
| 4376s | we do want to keep that balancing in |
| 4377s | mind the first of which is rebalancing |
| 4379s | star drops a bit more towards coins |
| 4382s | um which yeah you'll see you soon I |
| 4385s | think I didn't mention his name it's uh |
| 4387s | Enzo they go they like when I mentioned |
| 4389s | the name yeah of course of course shout |
| 4391s | outs can you say your name again |
| 4395s | uh luxury uh would you consider the |
| 4399s | option to stack start drops we've talked |
| 4401s | about that already could you all give a |
| 4404s | chance to buy Star drops like a special |
| 4406s | offers or even in club shop |
| 4411s | [Music] |
| 4413s | could you we'll think about it okay okay |
| 4416s | we'll consider |
| 4418s | um |
| 4420s | Baron Academy |
| 4422s | even though I believe the star drops to |
| 4424s | be a great feature it still has a lot of |
| 4426s | issues that to this day leave a bad days |
| 4428s | on us players are really wish the Mythic |
| 4431s | legendary star drops got some more some |
| 4434s | changes to what you could get from them |
| 4436s | like not getting a common ping or Mythic |
| 4439s | yeah I think we kind of went through |
| 4441s | this I mean it's what I mentioned that |
| 4443s | for that player it might not be exciting |
| 4445s | but for some it might be yeah you know |
| 4447s | and but it's about to us to feel like |
| 4449s | okay a Mythic or a legendary what should |
| 4451s | be in those what are unanimously agreed |
| 4454s | upon exciting things and that's that's a |
| 4456s | hard question but yeah we're tweaking |
| 4458s | stuff yeah but I guess a good summary |
| 4460s | touching on what we talk about like |
| 4462s | having more items maybe on a legendary |
| 4464s | drop like the same as a Mega Box |
| 4466s | uh and then and then there's the thing |
| 4468s | like yeah if we |
| 4470s | um increase or decrease if you remove |
| 4473s | some of the items there then it means |
| 4476s | this is the legendary drop gets more |
| 4478s | valuable therefore more rare like it's a |
| 4481s | it's a balancing yeah |
| 4483s | anyway you put it |
| 4485s | and then uh developer uh develop art or |
| 4489s | dear Dev uh how did the team come to |
| 4493s | realize that PV isn't good enough and |
| 4495s | needs to be pushed out of release |
| 4497s | that's a great question that's a really |
| 4499s | good question yeah |
| 4501s | um I mean fundamentally we had a lot of |
| 4503s | different designs on the table and we |
| 4505s | kept iterating and at the end of the day |
| 4507s | I think the design we're most excited |
| 4509s | about was also the design that would |
| 4510s | take by far the longest and we didn't |
| 4512s | want to ship something that we weren't |
| 4514s | personally excited about |
| 4516s | um so that's why we pushed this that's a |
| 4518s | long story short of it I think yeah and |
| 4520s | there is also like other things of like |
| 4522s | yeah even like we should release like |
| 4524s | the best PV ever brawl stars is a PVP |
| 4528s | game yep like what do you want to shift |
| 4530s | our players to our PVP PVE War right so |
| 4533s | I think |
| 4534s | yeah so the PVE has to be really fun and |
| 4538s | has to check out of boxes and it's a |
| 4540s | different kind of how you play the game |
| 4542s | so yeah it's um the design were not cool |
| 4545s | and then as you see like our currently |
| 4547s | PV events they are not so engaging or |
| 4550s | like they are kind of old and then what |
| 4553s | we had didn't feel as new or as fresh or |
| 4556s | like a long lasting right |
| 4559s | it's like I want to add one thing there |
| 4561s | I think which is important it's not |
| 4563s | we've we have not given up on the idea |
| 4566s | of PVE yeah |
| 4567s | so we might still get there the basic |
| 4571s | design idea we have |
| 4573s | I think is really good |
| 4575s | but that design idea to make that work |
| 4577s | and not be a little fling |
| 4580s | needs a lot of work it needs a lot of |
| 4584s | content specifically |
| 4586s | so so the effort of making that happen |
| 4590s | is just like in the short term |
| 4591s | prohibitive and would mean that we |
| 4594s | cannot do other things and and then it |
| 4597s | goes back to that balance between are we |
| 4598s | PVP game first or PVE game first that |
| 4601s | answers very clear for us we have PVP |
| 4603s | game first |
| 4604s | but we haven't given up on PVE we just |
| 4608s | don't know if it will like it's not |
| 4610s | going to happen this year it might |
| 4611s | happen next year or might not happen |
| 4613s | next year so it's like PVE is something |
| 4615s | it's in our heads it's not really gone |
| 4618s | it's just not for now |
| 4621s | yeah uh Panda casts are |
| 4625s | panda |
| 4627s | considering the recent change that |
| 4629s | resulted in reduced availability of game |
| 4631s | modes to enable faster matchmaking how |
| 4633s | difficult is to invest time energy and |
| 4635s | resources on making new game modes when |
| 4637s | testing then and will directly affect |
| 4640s | matchmaking times if you decide to add a |
| 4642s | slot just to include testing of the mode |
| 4644s | or at the expense of a pre-existing game |
| 4647s | mode if I remember correctly payload and |
| 4650s | Bot drop weren't well received from the |
| 4653s | community |
| 4654s | how difficult is to understand why a new |
| 4656s | game a new mode or changes to a new mode |
| 4659s | aren't as popular as your expectations |
| 4662s | during the planning phase |
| 4664s | it's a great question but but there's |
| 4667s | again there's I think there's multiple |
| 4668s | answers here there's um |
| 4672s | one we already touched on we're gonna |
| 4674s | have more more slots again right and the |
| 4677s | slots are not a limiting factor for us |
| 4679s | to test new modes because we always have |
| 4680s | the special event slot which we're using |
| 4682s | every update |
| 4684s | and we're bringing back old modes and |
| 4687s | try them out again and see how it goes |
| 4689s | you know we we did it with payload that |
| 4691s | now you can walk through the payload Etc |
| 4693s | and actually perform better but it's |
| 4695s | still performing on a similar level like |
| 4697s | highstone Hot Zone because I guess it's |
| 4699s | a control mode and there's only a |
| 4702s | specific crowd which wants to play |
| 4703s | control mods I think that's okay |
| 4706s | um |
| 4707s | but it's also okay to bring these modes |
| 4709s | occasionally back it doesn't need to |
| 4710s | become permanent you know it can keep |
| 4712s | the game fresh if it's there once a year |
| 4715s | um so there's that |
| 4717s | another piece is development Focus we're |
| 4720s | actually building out the team inside |
| 4722s | brawl Stars which focuses on game modes |
| 4725s | and Brawlers |
| 4727s | so that team is growing |
| 4729s | with a goal to be able to give you guys |
| 4732s | out there more game modes |
| 4734s | so |
| 4735s | we want to we want to focus more on |
| 4738s | broader polishing |
| 4740s | and on game modes |
| 4742s | so so yeah |
| 4744s | we have tons of ideas for game modes |
| 4746s | there's a long list of things we'd like |
| 4748s | to try |
| 4748s | and now it's just to what is the the |
| 4751s | first one we want to go for |
| 4754s | maybe even something this year who knows |
| 4755s | who knows who knows maybe we should know |
| 4760s | um |
| 4762s | do you have a question for us have you |
| 4764s | thought of something yeah one obviously |
| 4766s | the main one for me is uh for a while |
| 4769s | we've been talking about power League |
| 4770s | how it doesn't get played Enough by the |
| 4772s | casuals to me is like what kind of first |
| 4776s | ideas obviously you don't want to spoil |
| 4777s | anything you've got any ideas but well |
| 4779s | like the first ideas for you to make |
| 4782s | casuals play it more and more appealing |
| 4783s | for them because for the hardcore people |
| 4786s | for me and a bunch of Pros who stream |
| 4789s | the game you know that's all content you |
| 4790s | know we love playing Power League people |
| 4792s | love watching us but from a casual our |
| 4795s | viewers just find it so frustrating what |
| 4797s | are probably the few things you want to |
| 4798s | tackle first and what kind of features |
| 4800s | you're looking to add I think maybe |
| 4802s | Adrian I think it's easier to talk about |
| 4805s | things we see as problems rather than |
| 4807s | talking about exactly exactly yeah |
| 4809s | because the solutions are still very |
| 4810s | much Up And discussing them yeah but |
| 4812s | maybe let's talk about the problems yeah |
| 4814s | I think I think there's a few |
| 4815s | fundamental problems with power League |
| 4817s | especially for newer players |
| 4819s | um I think one of the big ones is uh won |
| 4821s | the duration of a public match and also |
| 4824s | what we call time to fun so when you |
| 4826s | actually get into the match so of course |
| 4828s | the draft phase in itself can be |
| 4830s | daunting especially if you're a new |
| 4832s | player you don't really know why you |
| 4833s | should pick where you should pick how |
| 4834s | you should pick and so forth what what |
| 4836s | are bands what is draft you know there's |
| 4838s | this fundamental question that a new |
| 4839s | player doesn't necessarily understand so |
| 4842s | that's one thing we want to try to |
| 4844s | tackle for sure and then also the |
| 4846s | duration because I mean the best of |
| 4848s | three you know clearly it's sometimes |
| 4849s | three times sometimes more times longer |
| 4851s | than just playing a Trophy match and |
| 4853s | that's a big time investment for a lot |
| 4854s | of people like a lot of people might |
| 4856s | have three five minutes but maybe not 15 |
| 4858s | maybe not 10 even so we need to make |
| 4861s | sure that those people can still engage |
| 4863s | with the feature early on |
| 4865s | and I think I think those are some of |
| 4867s | the biggest but maybe Jeff you have some |
| 4869s | other ones as well for sure yes yeah |
| 4871s | yeah |
| 4872s | um yeah |
| 4873s | unlocking the ability to buy a skin |
| 4876s | sucks |
| 4879s | um so yeah I think I think we want to |
| 4880s | make it way more rewarding you know from |
| 4884s | all kinds of perspectives like you know |
| 4886s | you should get better progression |
| 4888s | rewards there should be more rewards |
| 4890s | that allow the top players to flex more |
| 4894s | um we want you to be able to to |
| 4898s | did I say Flex more yeah but let's say |
| 4901s | that twice because yeah you'll be able |
| 4904s | to flex a lot more I think yeah so |
| 4905s | rewards is a is a big part of it for |
| 4908s | sure |
| 4909s | um and and it kind of going back to |
| 4911s | gameplay too you know it is a pretty |
| 4914s | replayable mode it is kind of our our |
| 4916s | end game content |
| 4918s | um but even then like it gets pretty |
| 4920s | stale after a while so you know we want |
| 4923s | to think about ways to you know how do |
| 4925s | we spice things up how do we make it |
| 4927s | even even more replayable and is there |
| 4929s | more ways to add depth and fun to it so |
| 4932s | yeah yeah |
| 4934s | I think there's a |
| 4936s | on the on the time to fun thing everyone |
| 4939s | mentioned if you think going from a |
| 4942s | regular game mode you're locking the |
| 4944s | game many people have their preferred |
| 4946s | game mode pre-selected they have their |
| 4949s | preferred brawler pre-selected and they |
| 4951s | don't care they will just play Motors |
| 4953s | and whatever yeah High mode displays |
| 4955s | yeah |
| 4956s | they will just play mortis in whatever |
| 4958s | game mode there is and they likely play |
| 4960s | showdown of bro ball right so they go to |
| 4963s | the game everything is ready to go they |
| 4965s | just hit play and in 10 seconds to end |
| 4967s | the game |
| 4968s | so that is the time to find is extremely |
| 4971s | good and I think it's one of the main |
| 4972s | draws for brawl yeah actually right but |
| 4975s | going from that to |
| 4977s | okay here's a random game mode now we |
| 4982s | show you the map uh then we have the |
| 4985s | roll of roll of the coin |
| 4987s | which team starts and then there's this |
| 4990s | this the big band phase and then you |
| 4992s | have a preparation phase and so the time |
| 4995s | until you're in the game |
| 4996s | takes time and then you don't know how |
| 4998s | many rounds you will play so so that is |
| 5001s | just from from going to from 10 seconds |
| 5003s | to |
| 5004s | 15 min 10 seconds plus the average play |
| 5007s | time which is about let's say 80 90 |
| 5009s | seconds so in less than two minutes |
| 5011s | you're in the game you've played around |
| 5014s | if you're in short on your first out |
| 5016s | it's much faster |
| 5017s | High most place |
| 5019s | probably ban Mortis on accident that's |
| 5022s | the first pick the true actually yeah we |
| 5024s | actually the three of us kept the |
| 5027s | in Brawl ball where we don't want to |
| 5028s | play against the mod as often yeah which |
| 5031s | is like too annoying you know and |
| 5033s | freaking Tara |
| 5035s | um |
| 5036s | so the the time to find I think it's |
| 5038s | it's a shock |
| 5039s | it's going from super fast to really |
| 5042s | long and and this like we're not even |
| 5045s | onboarding you in this process we're |
| 5047s | just like now you are you unlocked |
| 5049s | probably good luck yeah and it's just |
| 5052s | rough |
| 5053s | so we want to make that better so my my |
| 5057s | thinking was some months ago I don't |
| 5059s | know it's whatever you want to change |
| 5060s | obviously what changing mates power |
| 5062s | League probably will affect competitive |
| 5064s | so would it be I don't know my example |
| 5067s | was both teams pick at the same time and |
| 5070s | do it like 15 seconds and then they you |
| 5073s | know then it's only like three phases |
| 5075s | instead of six so that's already half in |
| 5078s | the time I think that would probably |
| 5080s | make it a lot better but then |
| 5082s | there's a lot of things to consider |
| 5083s | isn't that yeah it does take a long |
| 5085s | while even for someone who's seasoned |
| 5087s | you know when I'm streaming sometimes |
| 5089s | I'm like oh it's taking forever yeah |
| 5090s | they just hurry up like they're taking |
| 5092s | the full 20 seconds every time I just |
| 5094s | want to play the game now so I can see |
| 5096s | it from that point of view it's pretty |
| 5097s | daunting you've got to make sure you |
| 5100s | literally you know you sat at the |
| 5102s | optimal place ready to sweat like whilst |
| 5105s | we're playing casually you can play |
| 5106s | wherever you want yeah yeah I think I |
| 5109s | think there's something in between right |
| 5110s | yeah where where the timer fun is better |
| 5114s | it's maybe slower than playing a regular |
| 5117s | game of brawl but it's not quite as |
| 5119s | daunting and and you know it's it's not |
| 5122s | a black and white thing it's not that |
| 5124s | all that we could have you know like a |
| 5126s | progression easing you into the yeah the |
| 5130s | public format and so on and so on yeah |
| 5132s | yeah and and I think the competitive |
| 5134s | side of it is super important to us like |
| 5136s | we want to make sure |
| 5138s | the competitive qualities intact and you |
| 5141s | know that's towards the format but also |
| 5144s | towards like the quality of the matches |
| 5146s | so we're doing a lot of thinking on that |
| 5148s | too yep you know things like you know |
| 5150s | the report button you know to help with |
| 5152s | match quality so we yeah we we're |
| 5155s | definitely thinking about the top end |
| 5156s | players too when it comes to power |
| 5158s | League yep |
| 5159s | maybe a way to flex better yeah yeah did |
| 5163s | you save that yeah |
| 5166s | I'd love like a um you know on your |
| 5169s | brawler profile how uh before when power |
| 5172s | play used to be able to flex that rank I |
| 5174s | don't know if you thought about that but |
| 5175s | maybe you know the number one and |
| 5176s | leaderboard gets to literally Flex that |
| 5178s | they're number one I think that's for me |
| 5180s | that would make me grind like crazy all |
| 5183s | right |
| 5184s | all righty man big notes Jeff oh yeah he |
| 5188s | has the compendium yeah and necronomic |
| 5191s | gun and depend if you have more |
| 5193s | questions yeah for us just shoot at |
| 5195s | anything yeah shoot at anything go on |
| 5198s | okay just pick one on the top of my head |
| 5199s | is obviously speaking about hyper |
| 5202s | charges how many do you realistically |
| 5205s | feel like you're going to put out |
| 5207s | obviously you don't have to say a number |
| 5208s | every |
| 5210s | you know season will it be will it be |
| 5212s | different depending on how much time you |
| 5214s | have and then also like a side one is |
| 5216s | like how would you give a hypercharge |
| 5219s | for a more complex Brawlers like Chester |
| 5220s | for example right is that gonna be |
| 5223s | something like a big challenge |
| 5225s | great questions |
| 5227s | um for the first one I think the Cadence |
| 5229s | if we were releasing Hub shows will vary |
| 5230s | let's let's leave it at that I think it |
| 5232s | won't always be six I think it could be |
| 5234s | more yeah |
| 5236s | um I think that's safe to say I think |
| 5237s | that's something we're very conscious of |
| 5239s | um it just again it depends on yeah how |
| 5241s | much time we have how many people do we |
| 5242s | have at any given time and so forth |
| 5245s | um and complex Brawlers I think that's |
| 5247s | just uh that's just a design challenge |
| 5248s | for us I think you know I have a few |
| 5251s | ideas for Chester off the top of my head |
| 5253s | um and I don't think it should be an |
| 5255s | issue I think for maybe the coders will |
| 5256s | be angry with them when I suggest these |
| 5259s | things |
| 5259s | um but um I think there's Solutions put |
| 5262s | it that way to to any complexity |
| 5265s | yeah |
| 5266s | do you want to share the ideas for |
| 5268s | Chester okay |
| 5271s | that's enough |
| 5274s | and this news uh what do you think of |
| 5277s | the idea of not releasing Brothers in |
| 5279s | update with new hyper charges I know |
| 5281s | your plans are just opposite but have |
| 5283s | you thought about what it could mean for |
| 5285s | the balance of the game it's like not |
| 5287s | releasing Brawlers |
| 5288s | in an update because now we have |
| 5290s | hypercharge |
| 5291s | um |
| 5293s | yeah I it's a |
| 5297s | that's not going to be an answer a lot |
| 5299s | of the more hardcore people like |
| 5301s | but but that also maybe stems from a |
| 5303s | misunderstanding how we developed the |
| 5304s | game |
| 5306s | um |
| 5308s | of course many people would like us to |
| 5310s | ship all the hyper charges as fast as |
| 5312s | possible stop doing Brothers until |
| 5314s | you're done with like have more gears |
| 5316s | and all of that yeah but but that's just |
| 5319s | not practical |
| 5321s | today the most exciting things we have |
| 5323s | in browsers are |
| 5324s | the seasonal stuff |
| 5326s | and brought us and hypercharge we don't |
| 5329s | know if it will get there it's way too |
| 5331s | early but for the time being I would say |
| 5333s | like nothing will change that |
| 5335s | most people come to the game for new |
| 5336s | Brawlers |
| 5337s | and that's it and and as long as that's |
| 5340s | the case you need to expect us to |
| 5343s | produce more brothers because that's |
| 5345s | what people want |
| 5346s | so and I know I know that there's some |
| 5348s | people who don't want that |
| 5350s | but people at large want that yeah it's |
| 5353s | the most exciting thing about it yeah |
| 5355s | so yeah so it's like we're not gonna |
| 5358s | stop releasing |
| 5360s | brought us anytime soon do you agree |
| 5362s | spender it's most exciting thing yeah I |
| 5364s | still think so even as a first player I |
| 5366s | think it's the most exciting thing |
| 5367s | especially oh yeah just getting the |
| 5369s | feeling of |
| 5371s | for unlocking it maxing it out grinding |
| 5373s | it for a week or whatever is the best |
| 5375s | feeling for me but you guys got so many |
| 5378s | ideas as well |
| 5379s | maybe in two three years time might slow |
| 5383s | down a little bit but I bet you've got |
| 5385s | still a bazillion ideas for an overalls |
| 5387s | so I stop now how to charge won't change |
| 5389s | it maybe a quick syrup quick um a quick |
| 5391s | question based on that how do you feel |
| 5394s | about reworks versus new Brawlers how do |
| 5397s | you feel the impact yeah oh you're sorry |
| 5402s | yeah so like do you feel like they're |
| 5404s | equally impactful or like you know what |
| 5407s | would you rather see |
| 5409s | let's say a bit of both it depends on |
| 5411s | the community feedback like obviously |
| 5413s | for some time now Echo |
| 5415s | a lot of people have been kind of asking |
| 5418s | for one you know but then you've brought |
| 5421s | ones like Meg which kind of came out of |
| 5423s | nowhere and made the brawl a lot more |
| 5424s | fun in my opinion some people are |
| 5426s | probably thinking the opposite but I |
| 5428s | think it depends how the rework's done |
| 5430s | so like Edgar could literally is a tough |
| 5433s | topic because people love just how |
| 5435s | Eggers right now and you know in the |
| 5437s | lower trophies he's really strong but |
| 5440s | higher is pretty bad so it's just |
| 5442s | it depends how fresh it feels as a |
| 5444s | brawler I've enjoyed a lot of reworks |
| 5446s | that I've had like came about recently |
| 5448s | yeah I think in general for reworks like |
| 5450s | a new rule yeah we probably focus on |
| 5453s | if you if you think of |
| 5455s | two dimensions for brothers one is |
| 5457s | popularity one is actually how strong |
| 5459s | they are right it's not the same |
| 5460s | necessarily like more to send it are |
| 5463s | great examples they're super popular but |
| 5466s | the win rate is below 50 percent which |
| 5469s | is yeah it's not great but people still |
| 5472s | enjoy playing these products a lot |
| 5474s | and so they're having fun with them |
| 5476s | right even though you can argue winning |
| 5478s | is fun but still and then Desperado we |
| 5481s | know matter of fact they're really |
| 5483s | strong |
| 5484s | also of course there's a bit |
| 5485s | self-selection bias because the better |
| 5487s | UI supplier the more you understand that |
| 5490s | you know a strong broader helps you to |
| 5492s | win games think Pam |
| 5495s | is still a really strong brawler |
| 5497s | she's you know in control mode which is |
| 5499s | amazing and Hot Zone |
| 5502s | um she's super unpopular I think in Lex |
| 5505s | ranking she was the last one two years |
| 5507s | ago in the least popular role in brostas |
| 5510s | and we see that in the numbers because |
| 5512s | the play rates are really low |
| 5513s | so so it's really for us and then |
| 5516s | there's of course Brawlers which have |
| 5517s | low win rates and are not popular and so |
| 5521s | and then you have the the positive |
| 5522s | examples of products like right now |
| 5524s | would be Shelly High win rate high |
| 5526s | popularity |
| 5528s | so I think the reworks need to focus on |
| 5531s | on that site where broaders are not |
| 5533s | popular and starting with a not popular |
| 5536s | low win rate yep yeah |
| 5539s | I'd agree yeah if it's something |
| 5542s | that needs a vehicle let's put it that |
| 5543s | way like there might be some fun |
| 5544s | something fundamentally of which is |
| 5546s | numbers but if we believe that let's say |
| 5548s | this Brawlers may be outdated somehow |
| 5549s | like if they've been power crept by some |
| 5552s | new cool mechanics then yeah of course |
| 5553s | we need to figure out okay do we |
| 5555s | actually need to change something like |
| 5556s | fundamentally there's not many people to |
| 5558s | stop my help or a lot |
| 5560s | yeah it's probably balls the main one |
| 5562s | that people are asking about that even |
| 5565s | changed you know now with introduction |
| 5567s | of hypercharge |
| 5568s | guess what world's play rates are up |
| 5570s | yeah so |
| 5571s | I guess that was kind of |
| 5573s | I wanted ball to be ruler so then |
| 5575s | hypercharge came out that's kind of |
| 5577s | giving him that lovely needed yeah |
| 5580s | hypercharge might solve the problem with |
| 5582s | a lot of yeah there's some degree for |
| 5583s | sure yeah |
| 5585s | uh Power couple uh how do you feel about |
| 5588s | hypercharge did it fulfill your |
| 5590s | expectations in terms of being fun |
| 5592s | motivating |
| 5594s | um |
| 5595s | motivating players to upgrade increasing |
| 5597s | retention do you have any change planned |
| 5599s | for hypercharge |
| 5601s | I think we talked about that already I |
| 5603s | think all of it yeah I guess the plan |
| 5604s | the the big the only thing we plan to |
| 5607s | like not change but I think it's uh |
| 5610s | making the supers more meaningful right |
| 5612s | something that we want to do for the |
| 5614s | next patchy batches |
| 5616s | then Simon Tech since when is Frank |
| 5619s | you're dead |
| 5622s | just look you both look at the camera |
| 5623s | now probably |
| 5627s | I was confused I was like and then it |
| 5630s | hit me yeah at least I think uh since |
| 5634s | probably February |
| 5637s | 2019 yeah Dortmund yeah |
| 5641s | we went there everyone just started |
| 5643s | saying it it was a Red Bull event |
| 5646s | and in Dortmund Germany where where the |
| 5649s | teams competed against each other and |
| 5650s | that's I think where it started yeah |
| 5653s | the more you know the more you know |
| 5655s | that's how it became my father |
| 5661s | after adoption papers |
| 5663s | span is only three-year-old |
| 5668s | wait for I don't know how to do Matt |
| 5671s | um |
| 5672s | there's a question from Spen uh when is |
| 5675s | the next big quality of life update I |
| 5677s | really missed them and then he has like |
| 5679s | a sad face |
| 5684s | I think what you will see like |
| 5687s | moving forward |
| 5689s | is that within the team you know like |
| 5692s | the start drop update is a great example |
| 5695s | star drops was a huge feature |
| 5697s | and at the same time even though many |
| 5699s | people don't see that so clearly there |
| 5702s | was another big feature which was the |
| 5704s | re-engagement calendar so when you've |
| 5706s | when you've joined from the game and you |
| 5707s | come back there's no like a calendar |
| 5709s | waiting for you so we automatically |
| 5712s | level up one of your Brawlers you might |
| 5714s | get a new brawler |
| 5715s | um you know you will get a bit of an |
| 5717s | unrails experience |
| 5719s | and so there were two big features |
| 5722s | and then many of the the updates this |
| 5725s | year and even the last years to be |
| 5727s | honest we try to ship like two big |
| 5729s | things every update |
| 5732s | we as a team essentially decided that |
| 5735s | that's not the way to go anymore |
| 5737s | so moving forward we will focus on one |
| 5739s | bigger thing |
| 5740s | and a bunch of smaller things |
| 5742s | so so the quality of life part of our |
| 5745s | game because we all have the like |
| 5746s | everyone in the process team when you |
| 5748s | ask them they will all be like hey I |
| 5751s | have this list of 10 20 things I'd like |
| 5753s | to see in the game but we're like oh |
| 5754s | that's a cool idea but then we're never |
| 5756s | getting there |
| 5758s | and that an equal measures goes down to |
| 5761s | we're shipping something again startups |
| 5763s | as the example and then we're shipping |
| 5765s | the next thing which is hyper charge |
| 5767s | even though as you heard from Jeff we |
| 5769s | have ideas on how make startups even |
| 5771s | better the community has ideas we have |
| 5773s | ideas so we should take time the next |
| 5775s | update cycle to already make |
| 5778s | improvements not wait gears was maybe |
| 5780s | the extreme example where it took us a |
| 5782s | year to make changes so we want to get |
| 5785s | better at that as a team so we will |
| 5788s | likely focus on like one bigger thing |
| 5790s | every major update and then add a bunch |
| 5792s | of smaller things |
| 5794s | yeah I've got another question about |
| 5796s | gears actually |
| 5797s | what is your guys take on Mythic is like |
| 5801s | do you think you implemented it well |
| 5802s | will you still be adding them every |
| 5805s | update |
| 5806s | because to me it kind of feels like a |
| 5808s | like a third style power in a way |
| 5810s | doesn't it you're kind of happy with how |
| 5813s | things are out there I think some of |
| 5816s | them I'm really happy about and some of |
| 5817s | them let's let's put it that way um I |
| 5818s | think I think the fundamental idea of |
| 5821s | every brawler eventually having |
| 5823s | something specific to them |
| 5825s | um when it comes to gays I think it's a |
| 5826s | really cool Prospect it gives you more |
| 5828s | customization it gives you more depth in |
| 5831s | what you should choose I fundamentally |
| 5833s | believe that they shouldn't be stronger |
| 5835s | than the default gears but they should |
| 5837s | be situational right like um maybe the |
| 5841s | gene pool is a good example like yeah |
| 5842s | currently it's it's very good like on |
| 5844s | most Maps right but let's imagine you |
| 5846s | have let's say a smaller map then maybe |
| 5848s | you'll you're going to pick speed and |
| 5850s | damage or whatever you know so I think |
| 5853s | the idea is solid but I think we need a |
| 5857s | lot more designs that kind of fulfill |
| 5859s | that Niche that it's not basically as |
| 5862s | good as the third star power still same |
| 5864s | power level as guess but makes you play |
| 5866s | the brawler somehow differently or makes |
| 5868s | it feel somehow different |
| 5870s | um if that makes sense yeah yeah |
| 5872s | but yes we will keep adding gifts yeah |
| 5874s | okay yeah yeah for sure if that was the |
| 5876s | question yeah we will keep adding this |
| 5878s | essentially |
| 5879s | [Music] |
| 5880s | um |
| 5882s | vote K uh we will guys show more |
| 5886s | attention to the map making community of |
| 5888s | prostars I got this question because we |
| 5889s | actually are not paying attention so |
| 5891s | much so the map making community |
| 5894s | uh even though new community maps have |
| 5896s | been added last update this was the |
| 5898s | first time in a half half of a year |
| 5901s | we simply don't feel like we get enough |
| 5903s | recognition as a community and hope this |
| 5905s | this gets changed in the future a lot of |
| 5907s | new maps get removed after one update |
| 5910s | and a lot of old classic Maps get |
| 5913s | recycled while the community maps are as |
| 5915s | high quality as these over the last |
| 5918s | couple of years only two of them have |
| 5920s | stayed in the game since they released |
| 5921s | one from 2022 out in the open |
| 5924s | and another one from 2021 flaring |
| 5927s | Phoenix |
| 5932s | do we have any thoughts do you want more |
| 5935s | Community I guess like the thing is that |
| 5937s | the impact is very little right it's |
| 5940s | like uh |
| 5941s | uh even though like it could impact the |
| 5943s | mapping map making Community like for |
| 5947s | the general players they really don't |
| 5948s | care and like they do actually care for |
| 5950s | like the classic Maps like we have a lot |
| 5952s | of uh push forward to like we had an |
| 5954s | update where we introduced like all new |
| 5956s | maps right yeah and then the community |
| 5958s | was a bit angry at us uh so yeah I guess |
| 5961s | we have to always like touch base with |
| 5964s | the community and see like what they |
| 5966s | like what the what is the right amount |
| 5968s | of uh freshness I think like |
| 5973s | like as a rule of thumb you know it's |
| 5975s | probably not a good idea to change the |
| 5978s | majority of the map Pool every update so |
| 5980s | there needs to be some level of |
| 5982s | stability for people because people like |
| 5984s | get really really attached to maps |
| 5987s | and it's probably never like |
| 5990s | you know I ran some of these parts on |
| 5991s | Twitter but what they all boiled down is |
| 5994s | they're close to 50 50 most of the time |
| 5996s | with very few exceptions |
| 5998s | and |
| 6000s | so so it's very very hard like we're |
| 6003s | always open for Community maps and |
| 6005s | actually uh |
| 6006s | Nicholas morios he ran a bunch of |
| 6011s | um most of the community Maps right now |
| 6013s | come through his community which is the |
| 6015s | the broadcast community |
| 6017s | and |
| 6019s | when whenever he and I talk we talk like |
| 6021s | once a week at least he's suggesting me |
| 6023s | new maps from the community |
| 6025s | so so my tip |
| 6027s | the the best way to get your map into |
| 6029s | process is to join the warcraft |
| 6031s | community |
| 6032s | because again we're talking to modios a |
| 6035s | lot |
| 6035s | and and he's feeding us those maps from |
| 6038s | the community at the moment and and yeah |
| 6041s | like so we are completely open for |
| 6042s | Community Maps but don't expect us to |
| 6045s | change more than you know if you think |
| 6047s | about the game modes which have eight |
| 6048s | maps and rotation by the way that was a |
| 6050s | great change I think |
| 6052s | um |
| 6054s | I would I would say that we are maybe |
| 6055s | rotating two out two in something like |
| 6057s | this Pro game mode and that's about it |
| 6059s | so keeping the stability for the people |
| 6061s | most people want the stability |
| 6064s | some people want more variation and yes |
| 6066s | some maps are really really |
| 6067s | controversial Minecraft Madness Minecart |
| 6069s | Menace which is actually coming back |
| 6071s | when with our change |
| 6074s | um but think like cave and churn and and |
| 6076s | Island Invasion |
| 6078s | um those those maps are really |
| 6080s | controversial but they're also really |
| 6082s | popular with the people who play them |
| 6084s | you know whenever I see Kevin Journal |
| 6086s | it's not like I'm in love with the map |
| 6088s | but I'm thinking like finally I can't |
| 6090s | push my tanks yeah which and it's really |
| 6094s | fun to push them there you know it's |
| 6096s | still strategy involved in everything |
| 6097s | but |
| 6098s | yeah so anyway tldr |
| 6102s | we want Community Maps join the |
| 6103s | broadcast community |
| 6105s | Nicholas has you |
| 6108s | covered thanks Nicholas |
| 6110s | uh from boba's kochani I have a question |
| 6114s | is it guaranteed that the player will |
| 6116s | get a legendary start drop at some point |
| 6118s | uh |
| 6119s | like like before I think there was a |
| 6122s | there was a bit pity system for the Box |
| 6125s | before right but I have a feeling |
| 6127s | someone answered this already but okay |
| 6129s | so the question like is there a PD |
| 6132s | system |
| 6133s | yes there is I didn't know |
| 6139s | okay we won't go into detail but yes we |
| 6141s | make sure it's fair okay so yeah like |
| 6144s | when we think about like random drops |
| 6147s | like with Randomness you always get a |
| 6149s | long tail of possibilities so like there |
| 6153s | if it's pure random there's always going |
| 6155s | to be a player who doesn't get a |
| 6158s | legendary for years it's gonna happen |
| 6161s | sooner or later so we don't design it |
| 6164s | that way we make sure uh it happens for |
| 6169s | everybody at a certain after a certain |
| 6171s | amount of time yeah yep cool cool |
| 6174s | top efficiency that's the name of the |
| 6176s | guy not an answer |
| 6180s | not really related to start drops have |
| 6184s | you ever considered making progression |
| 6185s | PowerPoint base or simple terms make it |
| 6189s | harder to level up routers but much |
| 6191s | easier to apply Gadget star power and |
| 6194s | gears |
| 6194s | and then he mentions the lack of gold |
| 6196s | coins in the progression |
| 6201s | um yeah so I guess he's proposing like |
| 6202s | if you only use PowerPoints to upgrade |
| 6205s | Brawlers and then everything else is |
| 6207s | coins so ah and then he justified the |
| 6209s | the thing is because then he says that |
| 6213s | he can basically like have more freedom |
| 6216s | on how to create the I say the build of |
| 6219s | every brawler because then can buy |
| 6221s | anything yeah because it doesn't eat |
| 6222s | away from the coins yeah yeah yeah and |
| 6225s | we considered it at some point I think |
| 6226s | we discussed it |
| 6229s | but I don't think there's any conclusion |
| 6232s | to it what's was this person's name |
| 6236s | top efficiency top efficiency you should |
| 6239s | become a game designer |
| 6240s | but yeah I mean just it's like General |
| 6243s | design rifting like if you think about |
| 6245s | like currencies every currency we have |
| 6248s | in the game serves a purpose |
| 6250s | you know I think in the past we kind of |
| 6252s | have this per brawler PowerPoint |
| 6254s | currency and the intention of that is to |
| 6257s | encourage you to go play different |
| 6258s | Brawlers when we converted to this |
| 6260s | universal currency you got freedom but |
| 6263s | we also have coins which is also Freedom |
| 6266s | so you have these two currencies that |
| 6267s | kind of do the same thing right of |
| 6269s | course corn is used for unlocking |
| 6273s | gadgets gears Etc so yeah I think in a |
| 6276s | perfect world if we were going from |
| 6278s | scratch it would make sense if you just |
| 6280s | PowerPoints are for leveling coins are |
| 6283s | for expanding your toolkit right so that |
| 6287s | would be pretty nice but I think you |
| 6289s | know in a live game where players have |
| 6292s | unlocked so much it's like doing a |
| 6294s | change like that is not just you know |
| 6296s | changing some values there's tons of |
| 6298s | repercussions and we always have to |
| 6301s | balance like okay do we spend a bunch of |
| 6302s | time trying to do that or do we do |
| 6305s | something really awesome and cool right |
| 6307s | so there's always a consideration there |
| 6309s | but yeah I think this person is not |
| 6311s | wrong yep top efficiency top efficiency |
| 6314s | uh Ray saber how does the thing thing |
| 6317s | can proceed whenever they decide to make |
| 6320s | a mechanic as big as and game changing |
| 6322s | as hyper charge |
| 6323s | how difficult difficult was to make such |
| 6327s | decision or have you taught and talk it |
| 6329s | uh about it a longer long time ago |
| 6333s | so how difficult is to make those |
| 6335s | decisions we started about nine months |
| 6338s | ago I think six or nine months ago no |
| 6339s | nine months ago |
| 6342s | um and it started with gears not being |
| 6345s | like |
| 6346s | as cool to draw people to level up the |
| 6349s | characters to power 11. didn't feel as |
| 6351s | rewarding you know you're going to power |
| 6353s | 11 then you buy a gear that has a |
| 6356s | passive effect it |
| 6357s | it felt like hmm and at the same time at |
| 6361s | the same time we also felt it would be |
| 6362s | cool to add a new mechanic |
| 6364s | like the last time we introduced one was |
| 6366s | gadgets and that's been years ago |
| 6369s | so when whenever we do introduce new |
| 6372s | mechanics and that's again historically |
| 6374s | second star Powers gadgets |
| 6376s | we see how the community reacted pretty |
| 6378s | positively at Large |
| 6381s | and |
| 6382s | yeah the combination of these two things |
| 6384s | made it pretty easy for us to make the |
| 6386s | decision that we wanted to have |
| 6387s | something cooler |
| 6390s | yeah I guess it was it it wasn't |
| 6393s | super difficult because he wanted to do |
| 6396s | it and then I guess it's more like |
| 6397s | iterating on the idea yes that's usually |
| 6400s | the difficult part yeah |
| 6403s | um yeah but I do want to add I think |
| 6405s | it's super scary every time any time |
| 6407s | like we want to introduce something core |
| 6409s | to the gameplay yeah because brawl |
| 6411s | gameplay is such a special thing you |
| 6414s | know like you can mess that up pretty |
| 6415s | easily so you know yeah it's |
| 6419s | pretty nerve-wracking yeah have to be |
| 6421s | truth to the roots which is like simple |
| 6426s | uh Happy me thoughts on the community |
| 6429s | they have been pretty toxic lately |
| 6433s | I don't think so I can talk about this |
| 6435s | one so like I think |
| 6438s | I think it's not even of course like |
| 6440s | there are people that go beyond the they |
| 6443s | go beyond the boundaries of like respect |
| 6445s | for anything right but those are like |
| 6446s | the minority I think what we have is |
| 6449s | like very vocal and passionate uh people |
| 6452s | in the community and I think as I said |
| 6455s | like before like when we dropped the |
| 6457s | update there are a lot of mixed opinions |
| 6459s | like they're really vocal about |
| 6460s | everything but then they just waited we |
| 6463s | didn't even do anything and then it just |
| 6465s | like started training down right and |
| 6468s | then we had the post like on Frank's |
| 6470s | account where we explained the reasoning |
| 6472s | of everything and then they could see |
| 6474s | like okay I don't like this but I I |
| 6477s | understand like that's the point right |
| 6478s | we what we're trying to do is like |
| 6480s | making them understand because I think |
| 6482s | the problem with any gaming company it's |
| 6484s | not brow stars is like knowing why we do |
| 6487s | the things with the time to explain |
| 6488s | [Laughter] |
| 6490s | and then uh yeah like if you if you |
| 6494s | don't understand and then it just as you |
| 6497s | perceive something as bad of course you |
| 6498s | will have like a negative reaction like |
| 6500s | or we're gonna be loud about it so what |
| 6502s | we're trying to do is like |
| 6504s | not letting you guys in the dark and I |
| 6507s | honestly I think brawl even though this |
| 6509s | was like a very polemical update I don't |
| 6511s | think it was |
| 6513s | toxic or anything like uh like I did |
| 6516s | mention to Jeff like on when we |
| 6519s | came to work on Monday like we brought |
| 6521s | up on Saturday |
| 6522s | I said like dude I couldn't even sleep |
| 6525s | like I because I was reading everything |
| 6527s | like and of course we feel and I uh like |
| 6529s | we physically feel the the comments |
| 6532s | because uh |
| 6533s | we are also human and we do have |
| 6535s | emotions as well so like if you say like |
| 6537s | our work sucks of course like we oh |
| 6539s | maybe I'm not good enough or anything |
| 6541s | but it's a matter of like taking it |
| 6544s | Taking the time that is sinking and then |
| 6547s | like then you can like start |
| 6549s | rationalizing better like your thoughts |
| 6551s | starts like lining up after the emotion |
| 6553s | goes out |
| 6554s | and and it yeah of course like maybe we |
| 6557s | did some Stakes maybe we regret the |
| 6559s | things we've done but we it's not like |
| 6562s | that this is permanent and then |
| 6564s | everything we do is a learning curve and |
| 6566s | everything we do there is a reason |
| 6567s | behind it right so |
| 6570s | um yeah I don't think they have been |
| 6571s | super toxic or anything yeah it's like |
| 6575s | because I want to maybe lead with saying |
| 6580s | passion and toxic isn't the same for me |
| 6582s | at all yeah yeah so I I think that's an |
| 6585s | important point I think |
| 6586s | if you're becoming toxic in your |
| 6588s | communication with the dev team and then |
| 6589s | you expect us to listen to you you're |
| 6591s | wrong |
| 6592s | so because what will just happen is |
| 6595s | we're muting you or we're blocking you |
| 6596s | or when stop listening to what you have |
| 6598s | to say so if you want us to listen |
| 6601s | try to be constructive |
| 6603s | um and I just I just I just hate when |
| 6606s | people |
| 6607s | you know vomit over the work of certain |
| 6611s | people in the team because there's |
| 6612s | usually good reason |
| 6614s | it it's just like that |
| 6617s | um now in this case specifically I don't |
| 6618s | think the community was specifically bad |
| 6621s | it's it's its change is difficult yeah |
| 6624s | change is always difficult and |
| 6625s | especially if you don't have the full |
| 6626s | picture yeah so |
| 6629s | really like I think this update was a |
| 6633s | fantastic fantastic example of |
| 6636s | transition from oh my God what is this |
| 6639s | to oh this is not that bad yeah |
| 6642s | and and it's like at the end of the day |
| 6644s | we're not making these changes to be in |
| 6646s | the it's not that bad category we want |
| 6648s | them to be fun and we want to see that |
| 6650s | but I think the the post we did after |
| 6653s | brawltalk |
| 6655s | I think that helped alleviating a lot of |
| 6658s | the concerns and also it showed you know |
| 6660s | like I have maybe 350 000 followers on |
| 6664s | |
| 6665s | and flex |
| 6670s | so that means only the the most hardcore |
| 6674s | of Hardcore people actually follow me |
| 6675s | yeah |
| 6676s | and these guys were much more balanced |
| 6679s | afterwards in like how they reacted you |
| 6683s | know not everyone agreed but they |
| 6684s | understood yeah and for the record their |
| 6686s | reaction on YouTube they were like yeah |
| 6688s | this is Hive so like you can see like a |
| 6690s | different audience as well yeah super |
| 6691s | different yeah super different |
| 6693s | and yeah I mean I think I think most of |
| 6697s | us are you know in this profession |
| 6699s | because we want to make people happy and |
| 6702s | you know have fun playing the games we |
| 6704s | make yeah right so when we see you know |
| 6707s | negative feedback that's not |
| 6710s | constructive yeah like you know it take |
| 6712s | it some of it to heart it's hard it's |
| 6714s | hard to just block that out entirely you |
| 6716s | know but at the same time we also have |
| 6718s | to we also have to understand you know |
| 6720s | 99 of players are aren't on Reddit yeah |
| 6724s | so we got to look after everybody and |
| 6727s | yeah yeah and of course we are looking |
| 6729s | for results like uh we we we run a |
| 6732s | business so like if our game doesn't |
| 6734s | perform well if our game doesn't grow |
| 6735s | then the trend is to go down it's like |
| 6737s | that's for every live game I think we've |
| 6739s | really learned to stay away from New |
| 6741s | York reactions yeah just just because |
| 6743s | something bubbles up doesn't necessarily |
| 6746s | mean anything yeah so it's really |
| 6748s | important to you know like |
| 6750s | keep calm |
| 6752s | see what actually happens once the |
| 6754s | feature's out like so like if you go to |
| 6756s | the competitive Reddit |
| 6758s | like they give you this product will be |
| 6761s | op or underpowered |
| 6763s | before it's even out shout out shout out |
| 6765s | to Ash |
| 6767s | five stars everything |
| 6770s | he's discussed his his views uh |
| 6773s | discussed there a lot yeah but it's so |
| 6775s | it's like |
| 6776s | it just like when Adrian goes to the |
| 6779s | competitive Readiness he's looking at |
| 6780s | that it's like oh okay no no so I I go |
| 6783s | there and I'm one week I'm you know the |
| 6785s | hero of the people and the next time |
| 6786s | getting fired there's nothing in between |
| 6788s | there's nothing in between it's fired |
| 6790s | this guy or this guy's the best things |
| 6792s | to sliced bread so you know I like it |
| 6794s | yeah it's super interesting for for |
| 6796s | balancing because like the |
| 6799s | like we we have a team actually an |
| 6801s | external team that plays the game |
| 6804s | to to see how is a broader op or or |
| 6808s | underpowered or whatever so we get the |
| 6810s | report back and at the same time usually |
| 6813s | we get also the first feedback from the |
| 6814s | content creators and those feedback |
| 6816s | couldn't be more different which is |
| 6819s | always like we hear like too strong too |
| 6822s | weak like Pearl was rated I think |
| 6824s | initially five out of 5 out of 10 |
| 6827s | strength or something and then the |
| 6829s | creators were like oh really strong and |
| 6831s | like |
| 6832s | yep it's always like that it's |
| 6833s | complicated it's but that's the fun part |
| 6835s | about that yeah yeah sure have you |
| 6836s | played with pearl yeah yeah |
| 6838s | I feel like Pearl was Pearl's movement |
| 6841s | speed it's in between isn't it yeah in |
| 6844s | between normal and slow yeah so I think |
| 6846s | if she was like normal she'd be on the |
| 6848s | stronger side but I think because of |
| 6849s | that she's actually at a balanced state |
| 6851s | but I get some of the people's concerns |
| 6854s | about her but it's like the first thing |
| 6856s | is like oh you're ever going to charge |
| 6858s | you know like 12 seconds never really |
| 6860s | and still there's a lot of drawbacks to |
| 6863s | pull so I feel like |
| 6865s | me personally I didn't think she was |
| 6867s | going to be like game breaking but she |
| 6869s | definitely has potential if you're like |
| 6871s | really passive yeah yeah it feels strong |
| 6874s | but definitely not five stars |
| 6880s | throwing shattered no it's a fun thing |
| 6883s | it's a thing now in the community and |
| 6885s | sometimes they get it right he does yeah |
| 6887s | yeah shout out to I read it though like |
| 6891s | not quality memes |
| 6893s | true that's true uh Emilio and x uh he |
| 6898s | sent the heart to his pen no uh also my |
| 6901s | question would be could we ever see |
| 6903s | another button on your screen on our |
| 6905s | screen coming in the future but now |
| 6907s | instead of the left side it could be on |
| 6910s | the side where you'll control the |
| 6911s | brawler maybe like a dash speed boost or |
| 6914s | something and then yes thank you so much |
| 6916s | for being so open blah blah with |
| 6918s | inactive with the community |
| 6920s | I mean never say never right yeah it's |
| 6922s | gonna be a button on the top left |
| 6928s | alien are the triggers when you don't |
| 6930s | know oh yeah |
| 6932s | and then |
| 6934s | yeah I guess we just added a new button |
| 6937s | like yeah maybe in five years yeah we |
| 6940s | tried really hard to not happen yeah |
| 6942s | like we tried really hard yeah but then |
| 6944s | the button just felt much better yeah it |
| 6947s | just felt much better for what the |
| 6948s | feature did so but also to his point |
| 6951s | like at least like when I'm playing |
| 6952s | other games where like the control is |
| 6954s | here like you barely changed because you |
| 6957s | are always moving right it's very hard |
| 6959s | that you like would go to another button |
| 6961s | on the on the left left yeah I don't |
| 6963s | know if how would that work that I think |
| 6965s | yeah well let's let's figure it out if |
| 6968s | we get there maybe ah we're this of |
| 6970s | course it was just a joke but we were |
| 6972s | saying like what if you trigger |
| 6973s | hypercharge by shaking your phone |
| 6978s | but but I think actually like |
| 6981s | oh there's people who play for example |
| 6983s | if you play in fps or normal right most |
| 6986s | of the more core players play claw so |
| 6991s | they don't so if you have multiple |
| 6993s | fingers on the device while playing well |
| 6996s | maybe there could be more buttons you |
| 6998s | know yeah sure so it's like I think it's |
| 7000s | it's like because we are playing the |
| 7002s | game like old people |
| 7003s | like we're holding a controller on our |
| 7006s | hand but it's like |
| 7008s | I don't know yeah I think I think we're |
| 7010s | good with buttons for a while yeah yeah |
| 7012s | we spend do you play claw no no you |
| 7016s | don't really need someone but some do |
| 7019s | yeah |
| 7020s | they put like a gadget boy in the right |
| 7022s | top Corner yeah but yeah they're so |
| 7024s | weird yeah yeah it's weird people |
| 7028s | uh how do |
| 7030s | shy them for place is it claw or is it I |
| 7033s | think they play like that right some of |
| 7035s | them play claw yeah |
| 7037s | that's maybe that's the secret I think |
| 7039s | it's just playing glow yeah I think he |
| 7041s | does I think I've seen him doing the he |
| 7043s | plays it with his stuff wait what yeah |
| 7047s | some people play with it oh yeah with |
| 7049s | their fingers yeah that's true |
| 7051s | so I mean that's the great but whatever |
| 7053s | floats your boat right yeah customizable |
| 7056s | control yeah oh it's Sparta Lex after |
| 7060s | after you add a hyper charge for every |
| 7063s | brawler are you planning to add a second |
| 7065s | one for each of the each of one of ten |
| 7068s | like the time you added the second star |
| 7070s | power and second gadgets calm down man |
| 7079s | yeah yeah and then let's see however we |
| 7083s | did I think it was like joaquin's design |
| 7085s | he was actually in the podcast in the |
| 7086s | previous one uh he added these uh |
| 7090s | changeable stats with the thing of like |
| 7093s | I could be that the next hyper charge |
| 7095s | has a different stat status of something |
| 7098s | like that and maybe change the super in |
| 7099s | a different way so there is room for |
| 7101s | that but yeah it's very far ahead yeah |
| 7104s | it's fun yeah hey Google remind us in a |
| 7107s | year yeah |
| 7109s | Lux |
| 7111s | wouldn't it be better to focus on |
| 7113s | mythical gear for all characters instead |
| 7115s | of hyper charts they're practically the |
| 7117s | same mechanics but the hypercharge have |
| 7119s | status buff |
| 7121s | sorry what well they're practically not |
| 7123s | the same I don't think yeah one is |
| 7127s | active one is passive and I think it's |
| 7128s | really fair to compare them but it |
| 7131s | doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on |
| 7132s | missing this but I don't think one |
| 7135s | should take out the other yeah I think |
| 7136s | it should be a parallel yeah as I like |
| 7139s | as we said before like we're running a |
| 7140s | business and then we need to make a |
| 7142s | splash uh on updates because that's |
| 7144s | bring players to the game and then maybe |
| 7146s | the new feature will engage more than |
| 7148s | the previous one and we really believe |
| 7150s | that if really is like I don't know 10 |
| 7152s | mythical gears it wouldn't have the same |
| 7153s | impact so |
| 7155s | that was the reason |
| 7158s | did he ask the same thing like if you |
| 7160s | guys could change one thing about the |
| 7161s | game what would be maybe we can go with |
| 7164s | pen Force yeah |
| 7166s | it's tough one I'll just I'll say as an |
| 7169s | item game player I like just more things |
| 7171s | to kind of flex maybe more rare things |
| 7173s | for like grinding certain trophies and |
| 7176s | Brawlers or power league for example my |
| 7178s | my focus is power League I'll just want |
| 7180s | more cool things to |
| 7182s | show off essentially once they get |
| 7185s | towards Masters rank or even further to |
| 7187s | Masters I haven't asked one thing for me |
| 7189s | some more in-game but that's just I'm |
| 7191s | only a tiny percent |
| 7193s | how many monstrous do you have unlocked |
| 7195s | I think I only have three |
| 7197s | same as me I can be a pro |
| 7200s | then it's your attention I'm not |
| 7203s | throwing Adrian under the bus |
| 7205s | why does he have none |
| 7209s | and it's not my fault it's not |
| 7211s | ironically why are you blaming for that |
| 7214s | ironically Adrian is working towards the |
| 7217s | trash title I am I am yeah whenever he's |
| 7220s | online he's playing Ash |
| 7222s | you never accept my invite anyway |
| 7225s | um |
| 7228s | do not disturb instantly worth the offer |
| 7231s | title yeah |
| 7233s | but how about you Adrian one thing the |
| 7236s | changing brawl |
| 7239s | it's a great question I think we had |
| 7240s | this the last time as well yeah and I |
| 7242s | think my answer would still be the same |
| 7243s | as something along the lines of it being |
| 7245s | easier to play with let's say one or two |
| 7248s | more people like just finding those |
| 7250s | people being able to see what they want |
| 7251s | to play and so forth I think it's really |
| 7253s | hard in today's world to actually group |
| 7255s | up and have a common goal or realize |
| 7258s | what your friends are currently doing |
| 7259s | and what they want to do so something |
| 7261s | along those lines for sure because I |
| 7262s | think the social experience is the most |
| 7263s | fun and brawl when you're having a a |
| 7265s | group of friends playing I think that's |
| 7267s | the best experience cool do you want to |
| 7269s | go first Frank |
| 7271s | or Jeff yeah go first um |
| 7274s | I |
| 7275s | I'd probably want to make Among Us in |
| 7278s | Brawl Stars |
| 7280s | one thing is like completely changed |
| 7283s | it's pretty sauce as a mode yeah it's |
| 7286s | pretty accessible it's pretty sauce |
| 7288s | yeah |
| 7289s | how about you Danny like I think I had |
| 7292s | before it was like the looking for a |
| 7294s | team Improvement that I would make it |
| 7296s | better but I was thinking now what if we |
| 7299s | could like when you buy a skiing you buy |
| 7301s | the elements like |
| 7304s | customization yeah it's like you buy the |
| 7307s | Hat you buy the Torso you buy the thing |
| 7309s | and then you can change the brother with |
| 7311s | the skins or something that's more you |
| 7312s | don't buy like the whole back writing |
| 7314s | more like and I like that back bling and |
| 7317s | stuff yeah if I could just flip a switch |
| 7320s | I would have |
| 7322s | tools and browsers to make game modes ah |
| 7325s | yeah I think that's like that's if I |
| 7328s | could just flip a switch that's what I |
| 7330s | wanted that would be I think it would be |
| 7332s | Game Changer yeah yeah because like when |
| 7335s | when we introduced map maker I think it |
| 7338s | was it it was really really really big |
| 7341s | and actually even today there are still |
| 7344s | people who play mostly map maker and and |
| 7347s | we're still getting like hundreds of |
| 7348s | thousands of new maps |
| 7350s | and |
| 7352s | I just I just would love to see what |
| 7354s | happens |
| 7355s | if we give the community even you know a |
| 7358s | small selection of tools to try to make |
| 7360s | game modes that would be super cool hit |
| 7363s | one yeah I think that's the best |
| 7365s | from all of us |
| 7368s | um |
| 7371s | uh just curious but what was the reason |
| 7374s | why the Star Park bro talk the gift shop |
| 7377s | animation and investor video were |
| 7378s | removed I I picked the one exactly |
| 7381s | because I wanted to explain uh like |
| 7384s | like in the marketing industry or |
| 7387s | anything like the bigger the project of |
| 7389s | course like the more costly and like |
| 7391s | um if you are buying for uh I don't know |
| 7395s | a video like a soundtrack actors |
| 7397s | everything has like a contract and then |
| 7400s | you have to deal with all of those |
| 7402s | things like of course |
| 7403s | sometimes the deal you make is like for |
| 7406s | a limited time |
| 7409s | and for example the ad we had with Clash |
| 7412s | of Clans and what's the name of the |
| 7413s | actor yeah Liam Neeson uh it wasn't live |
| 7417s | forever because like it's if you want to |
| 7419s | buy the word is like perpetuity rights |
| 7422s | then it's like crazy expensive right and |
| 7427s | of course like it's um it's a matter of |
| 7430s | like investment and return of investment |
| 7432s | so we put it out there we uh had what we |
| 7436s | wanted to |
| 7437s | we received what we wanted to put out |
| 7439s | there like the people understanding |
| 7441s | what's the law uh reactions to this |
| 7443s | video are still there so like that's a |
| 7445s | thing that |
| 7446s | is to exist we are not like he raising |
| 7448s | history and we want to |
| 7452s | that this is the lore like we are not |
| 7454s | like removing the this part of the story |
| 7456s | it is to exist is basic like our rights |
| 7459s | to use the video expired and that's it |
| 7462s | so not like sorry to disappoint the |
| 7465s | people that they're thinking it's |
| 7466s | another like hint to a new lore drop but |
| 7470s | uh yeah and then basically like you can |
| 7473s | you can already play like the bigger the |
| 7476s | marketing piece the more successful is |
| 7478s | it is to have like a time limit uh date |
| 7482s | and our animations like |
| 7485s | if you compare our normal animations |
| 7487s | With The Star Park uh |
| 7491s | video like you can tell the difference |
| 7493s | that there was a lot more investment on |
| 7495s | the Star Park uh video right so the |
| 7498s | animations like they they are there for |
| 7500s | forever |
| 7501s | but um yeah the big pieces might not |
| 7505s | leave forever maybe in your hearts our |
| 7508s | new reaction videos |
| 7511s | but yeah |
| 7514s | then Inferno listico please just tell me |
| 7517s | us whether this was a rushed this was |
| 7520s | rushed or not it would explain a lot of |
| 7522s | the controversial decisions made this |
| 7525s | update |
| 7526s | on that note do hypercharge correspond |
| 7528s | with the long-term plan for the game why |
| 7531s | do we have to wait two weeks for the new |
| 7533s | ability |
| 7536s | so I guess for the first question like |
| 7539s | people are asking that a lot yeah but I |
| 7542s | wouldn't say it was rushed because what |
| 7545s | we account for the time we had it was |
| 7548s | delivered right we didn't have to push |
| 7550s | anything away |
| 7551s | uh and nobody was like working |
| 7554s | very much over time maybe there's a |
| 7556s | little bit over time |
| 7558s | but so then I don't think it was rushed |
| 7560s | of course like the more time we have the |
| 7562s | more discussions we can have and more |
| 7563s | changes it can be done but it was like |
| 7565s | the implementation |
| 7567s | it was after the July break like we had |
| 7569s | I don't know maybe one and a half months |
| 7572s | uh to implement the things we wanted |
| 7574s | so I yeah I wouldn't say rushed and of |
| 7577s | course like the more time we have the |
| 7578s | more polished something will be |
| 7580s | but we delivered what we expected to |
| 7583s | deliver |
| 7584s | and |
| 7587s | yeah I think we're like cognizant of |
| 7589s | that right like yeah we think about that |
| 7590s | you know into the future updates too |
| 7592s | like yeah we love more we love to get |
| 7594s | more time to to polish everything yeah |
| 7596s | and of course there is like Community |
| 7597s | expectations we know that once like they |
| 7600s | reach one month playing the same |
| 7601s | broadcast like it tends to Trend out |
| 7604s | they're not more excited with the season |
| 7605s | anyway so like we need to release |
| 7607s | something impactful otherwise it just |
| 7610s | keeps yeah maybe on the on the two-week |
| 7612s | thing uh yeah I think that's you know |
| 7614s | about the collector packs and yeah you |
| 7617s | know with |
| 7619s | hypercharge you know we do have an |
| 7621s | intention to try to monetize the feature |
| 7623s | you know it's it's a big thing we put a |
| 7625s | lot of effort into it |
| 7627s | um and we do want to generate revenue |
| 7630s | for it to help grow brawl right it's the |
| 7633s | reality |
| 7635s | um and we do think about like hey we |
| 7638s | don't want to |
| 7639s | block this power thing like we want we |
| 7642s | don't want it to be pay to win so it's |
| 7644s | like how else can we monetize it well |
| 7647s | one of the ways is Early Access yeah we |
| 7650s | feel like that's |
| 7651s | a good compromise and it's kind of a |
| 7654s | fair way to to do it yeah |
| 7657s | and you do learn a lot from what we've |
| 7660s | done and we want to do some changes we |
| 7661s | don't know exactly what but we want to |
| 7663s | have a better uh drop uh release Cadence |
| 7667s | yeah okay that's the best word |
| 7671s | and |
| 7673s | best meme that's the name of the thing |
| 7676s | what is your current opinion on the 10 |
| 7679s | upgrade any plans to reverted a lot of |
| 7682s | people in the subreddit want it uh is |
| 7686s | there anything going on about the |
| 7688s | broadcast Brawlers being op |
| 7691s | we will be charging up some hypercharge |
| 7695s | are changing we'll be changing some |
| 7697s | hypercharge like spikes bigger super pro |
| 7700s | contract contract |
| 7703s | I can say distracting no it's like when |
| 7706s | it's contrary |
| 7708s | contradicted yes hypercharge |
| 7711s | and could there be diversity in the |
| 7714s | future we already touched on that will |
| 7716s | hypercharge that buff only be on speed |
| 7718s | damage or Shield could be reload speed |
| 7720s | or something else |
| 7722s | and we would there be Brawlers with |
| 7724s | one or two of those |
| 7726s | I like uh so like instead of like having |
| 7729s | three stats buff only two right |
| 7731s | something like that that's a lot of |
| 7732s | questions yeah so let's go over to the |
| 7734s | first one this is all the sample oh wow |
| 7736s | yeah all right it's real quick I think |
| 7738s | there was the 10 like we we're not we're |
| 7741s | not reverting it yeah because we want to |
| 7743s | see how it goes also and we are already |
| 7745s | doing the yeah the gadgets and stuff yes |
| 7747s | that's right yep the broadcast brawler |
| 7750s | being op that's fake news at this |
| 7753s | fundamentally news yeah fake news yeah |
| 7756s | [Laughter] |
| 7767s | I don't think Pearl is op we just |
| 7769s | touched on it |
| 7771s | um so so it's like |
| 7772s | yes some will be stronger some will be |
| 7775s | weaker but actually we touched on that |
| 7777s | in the past when we talked about like I |
| 7779s | keep talking about that but Gene Gene is |
| 7782s | still not super popular despite being |
| 7785s | pretty strong actually |
| 7786s | and and the main reason is that he was |
| 7789s | released underpowered so if we have to |
| 7792s | decide between underpowered or a bit |
| 7794s | overpowered or if we're not entirely |
| 7796s | sure we will lean towards overpowered |
| 7798s | that's just better for the game |
| 7802s | um and if it turns out to be op we will |
| 7805s | fix that and we we've done it in the |
| 7807s | seasons more recently so that we're |
| 7810s | going back and change it you know the |
| 7812s | moment we really have enough information |
| 7815s | to yeah action that if there's something |
| 7818s | obviously broken of course we hot fix it |
| 7820s | but I mean if if there's something that |
| 7821s | just needs a small tuning then usually |
| 7822s | mid-season balance changes is the time |
| 7824s | to do that yeah I used to be I won't say |
| 7827s | frustrated but say if someone was really |
| 7829s | strong like I used to think uh you know |
| 7832s | it's a broad passes I want to make it |
| 7833s | good but at the same time you've got to |
| 7835s | think of the other way like if if it's a |
| 7838s | broadcast brawler and it's bad yeah it's |
| 7840s | like the most demotivating thing isn't |
| 7842s | it like if you just grind into broadcast |
| 7844s | and I know collect and release it's like |
| 7847s | oh what do I do with a sprawler now like |
| 7848s | you'd rather be on the stronger side and |
| 7850s | be fun then on the weaker side that's |
| 7852s | like a player perspective as well yeah I |
| 7855s | think in general like it people do come |
| 7858s | to the intuitive assumption that we try |
| 7861s | to release something powerful like Yeah |
| 7863s | The Power of umbrella to try to make |
| 7864s | money or something like that's not what |
| 7866s | we do we try to make provide more fun |
| 7868s | ways to play the game than because you |
| 7870s | enjoy it then you you want to you know |
| 7872s | spend some money on the game yep that's |
| 7874s | a Remo |
| 7875s | literally for the last update cycle |
| 7878s | the strongest problem the game was the |
| 7879s | starting brawler |
| 7880s | [Laughter] |
| 7882s | and we even gave we even gave the hyper |
| 7885s | charge for free yeah |
| 7889s | and then there was ah then uh that's |
| 7893s | super change he mentioned like Spike and |
| 7896s | then pearls and then we might yeah we |
| 7899s | might change and then the next batch |
| 7901s | already has like something |
| 7903s | more different |
| 7905s | and then yeah the different stats buff |
| 7908s | if like only two stats buff are like |
| 7910s | more things that are not a speed health |
| 7914s | and damage absolutely possible if it |
| 7916s | makes sense yeah yes okay we have like |
| 7920s | just six questions okay let's power |
| 7921s | through this |
| 7923s | up you down when you are making a new |
| 7926s | feature for a brawler like a new Gadget |
| 7928s | or hypercharge what things are taking |
| 7930s | into consideration to this when |
| 7932s | designing it like why do some gadgets |
| 7934s | change the general gameplay of the |
| 7936s | Brawlers While others are useless like |
| 7939s | second the second M gadgets for example |
| 7942s | maybe it's a Adrian question yeah I just |
| 7945s | like the second time sketch it but I |
| 7947s | think I think fundamentally when we look |
| 7949s | at gadgets and star Powers I think let's |
| 7951s | start with gadgets I think they need to |
| 7952s | usually |
| 7955s | um complement each other somewhat so one |
| 7957s | for example could be defensive one could |
| 7958s | be offensive or or one could cover a |
| 7961s | weakness and one could increase your |
| 7963s | offensive capability or something like |
| 7964s | this they shouldn't be |
| 7966s | different solutions for the same problem |
| 7968s | if that makes sense they should they |
| 7969s | should make your brother feel different |
| 7972s | to play |
| 7974s | um I would say the same thing for Star |
| 7975s | Powers they should also fundamentally |
| 7976s | change your play style I think Mr P for |
| 7979s | example is a good example you either |
| 7980s | have stronger spawners or have stronger |
| 7982s | Basics it depends what kind of player |
| 7983s | you are |
| 7984s | um |
| 7985s | and I think yeah that's that's on the |
| 7987s | high level what it should be and again |
| 7989s | coming back to why is a gadget useless |
| 7991s | yeah some are worse than others and |
| 7993s | that's a balancing issue and that's also |
| 7995s | a Time issue I'll get to them |
| 7999s | um but yeah it's a bonusing issue I |
| 8002s | think I think it's really like |
| 8005s | if it complements your own play style |
| 8007s | that's one thing right but but for |
| 8011s | example again you touch it with Mr P but |
| 8013s | I think the best examples of that are |
| 8015s | playing like a Byron |
| 8018s | so all healers in general like one of |
| 8020s | the abilities should be offensive and |
| 8022s | one should make you better healer |
| 8024s | so so you have some you know impact on |
| 8027s | the direction this is going and in a |
| 8029s | perfect world you will want to switch |
| 8031s | gadgets or Starbucks depending on the |
| 8033s | map or on the game mode because you know |
| 8036s | like in this case this is better in that |
| 8037s | case the other thing is better yep so of |
| 8040s | course that's that's I wanna like that |
| 8042s | if he's saying that out loud like that |
| 8045s | that's the aspiration yeah it's not the |
| 8048s | reality yeah right so so you you are |
| 8051s | completely right to say that some |
| 8053s | gadgets and stuff some stop hosts are |
| 8054s | not |
| 8056s | fitting that criteria yeah or hitting |
| 8058s | the mark yeah so so it's like and again |
| 8061s | we will go back to them yeah |
| 8064s | so uh Syed ask why there is no new game |
| 8068s | modes it's been a very long time |
| 8072s | kind of touching it no you touched on it |
| 8074s | yeah but why |
| 8076s | priorities priorities |
| 8079s | it's like like for example for example |
| 8081s | like |
| 8083s | the the group of people on the team will |
| 8086s | work on gameplay |
| 8087s | is brought us it's it's gears |
| 8091s | hypercharged it's hypercharge it's game |
| 8093s | modes yeah so |
| 8096s | so right now those are the same people |
| 8098s | so while we're focusing on hypercharge |
| 8101s | there's probably less attention to game |
| 8103s | modes but as I touched on as well we're |
| 8105s | building out that team so we are we |
| 8108s | already increased the team size and we |
| 8109s | will keep increasing the team size of |
| 8111s | the team so we can just do more of that |
| 8113s | because we are we're in agreement with |
| 8115s | the community we want more game modes we |
| 8116s | want to try more things out and we have |
| 8118s | tons of ideas and I know the community |
| 8120s | has tons of ideas so |
| 8122s | yeah |
| 8124s | we are ramping up |
| 8127s | uh super green |
| 8131s | what do you think about getting multiple |
| 8133s | rewards from Star drops and being able |
| 8135s | to choose which one you would get from |
| 8137s | from it |
| 8140s | an amazing idea on the first part yeah |
| 8145s | yeah |
| 8146s | I think the choosing can be a |
| 8148s | double-edged sword it's like you don't |
| 8150s | want to leave something on the table |
| 8151s | like oh I want both and then I have to |
| 8154s | it just makes it yeah it makes it |
| 8156s | awkward I could I could kind of see a |
| 8159s | special edition star drop maybe which is |
| 8161s | like yeah akin to clash royale's uh like |
| 8165s | lightning wait choose between that all |
| 8168s | that yeah but it like for the normal |
| 8170s | startups I think it's in the flow of |
| 8172s | things it doesn't make sense yeah yeah |
| 8173s | again like as I don't know who said it |
| 8176s | but like uh having it random allows you |
| 8179s | to to give more right yeah like the more |
| 8181s | options we have the more stingy we have |
| 8183s | to be yep yeah like yeah we can do |
| 8185s | re-rolls we can do pick we can do recite |
| 8187s | there's all kinds of things we can do |
| 8189s | but I think it's like the first step is |
| 8190s | we gotta make the base of it feel a |
| 8193s | little bit better better yeah |
| 8195s | okay |
| 8198s | why not have classic bow or classic |
| 8201s | Darrow for Broly days but instead give |
| 8203s | everyone a super sound make cold skin |
| 8205s | either way we get a free skin but I do |
| 8207s | want to know why because I can go |
| 8210s | through that like |
| 8211s | first quote is super popular like uh and |
| 8215s | the schemes we gave before was like |
| 8217s | jelly Dynamic recall Africa maybe is the |
| 8220s | these popular popular of the this rock |
| 8223s | rock yeah rocks very popular as well |
| 8226s | it's like it is something that is for |
| 8228s | everyone right and even though code has |
| 8230s | like lots of skins many of the ends are |
| 8232s | not always on like they have a billion |
| 8234s | football skins and uh a lot of like |
| 8237s | exclusive and uh special season 9 000. |
| 8241s | yeah uh and then like still it is a |
| 8245s | really good thing for most of the |
| 8247s | players because they don't have any cold |
| 8249s | skin |
| 8250s | and come on you are designing a free |
| 8253s | skin for the community that's the |
| 8254s | coolest thing right |
| 8255s | I don't think I can |
| 8258s | it I think it's a cool thing and we've |
| 8260s | been seeing a lot of uh |
| 8262s | cool design so far yeah people are |
| 8265s | really pushing for the mecca because |
| 8267s | they know it's free so they are trying |
| 8269s | like okay let's go yeah 300 smart yeah |
| 8272s | smart smart |
| 8274s | but yeah there are some really cool |
| 8276s | designs |
| 8278s | uh uh SPC Omen uh is there a remote |
| 8282s | possibility that the broadcast can no |
| 8284s | longer be purchased with gems dun dun |
| 8288s | dun dun dun dun dun |
| 8290s | is there yeah we're discussing it yeah |
| 8293s | yeah I think the reality of it is you |
| 8295s | know majority of the gems spent for the |
| 8299s | broad pass is from free gems |
| 8303s | um |
| 8304s | obviously you know it's not like a light |
| 8307s | decision no there's lots of pros and |
| 8310s | cons |
| 8312s | um |
| 8313s | no decision either way I think we're we |
| 8315s | talk about it I would like to add one |
| 8317s | thing though because out of context it's |
| 8320s | not like we're gonna if if we make a |
| 8322s | change there it's not just gonna be you |
| 8324s | cannot buy it for gems anymore but |
| 8326s | everything else stays the same |
| 8328s | it would be it would the whole thing |
| 8330s | would change |
| 8331s | it would be you know like think of |
| 8333s | different Cadence different content |
| 8335s | things will change like at the same time |
| 8338s | so it it wouldn't be Apples to Apples |
| 8340s | yeah yeah the price thing is like a |
| 8342s | small part of it I think there's tons of |
| 8343s | cool ideas we want to do for the broad |
| 8346s | pass to make that even more exciting |
| 8349s | yep |
| 8351s | spend since we are like on the last two |
| 8353s | questions to have anything |
| 8355s | for us |
| 8357s | you have then 10 minutes to think about |
| 8359s | yeah |
| 8360s | no pressing yeah average mortise enjoyer |
| 8366s | stats for you uh can we skip this is it |
| 8369s | for me yeah what is the brother you |
| 8371s | found the hardest to balance not mortise |
| 8374s | um here's the one of the hardest yeah |
| 8377s | it's no more it's Carl uh |
| 8380s | yeah yeah he's op or not but yeah |
| 8384s | um I think I've touched on before but |
| 8387s | real quick |
| 8388s | um Carl is one of those rollers that |
| 8389s | when you change a single parameter in |
| 8392s | anything especially his main attack he |
| 8395s | completely changes power levels |
| 8397s | um because when you for example because |
| 8399s | of his unique um main attack mechanic |
| 8401s | right so if you change for example the |
| 8403s | pickaxe speed okay that means he hits |
| 8405s | more consistently so more DPS he also |
| 8407s | reloads faster because the pickaxe |
| 8408s | returns faster so even a small change on |
| 8411s | these things makes it completely |
| 8413s | different and um I mean we see it for |
| 8415s | example when when I change him last I |
| 8417s | mean before the pickaxe speed star power |
| 8419s | was more |
| 8421s | um more used and now again protective |
| 8423s | period is used more it completely |
| 8425s | switched so any small change makes him |
| 8428s | flip completely um I think now he's on |
| 8430s | the stronger side I would say maybe you |
| 8431s | agree |
| 8433s | um but in general he is by far the |
| 8437s | trickiest brother to balance |
| 8439s | and Jeff is instead of picking him every |
| 8441s | part |
| 8442s | you're you're just a Carl name I only |
| 8445s | play that bro it's it's the lock how do |
| 8447s | you feel about Nerf Carl |
| 8448s | I quit bro Stars okay |
| 8453s | but yeah he's he's the hardest cool good |
| 8456s | question I just want better skins for a |
| 8458s | car okay yeah |
| 8461s | the minecart thing isn't if you could |
| 8462s | change one thing yeah I should change my |
| 8465s | answer but I can't yeah not among us |
| 8468s | just Carl skins yeah yeah yeah okay I've |
| 8471s | prepared this one for the last because |
| 8472s | it's the best question ever made by a |
| 8475s | player by a human being actually wait |
| 8478s | who is it fire Explorer I didn't say the |
| 8480s | name |
| 8481s | um so fire Explorer asked are you guys |
| 8484s | planning to add x-king into the game |
| 8491s | well and if it would be |
| 8494s | an ex-king who would be yeah Primo yeah |
| 8499s | foreign |
| 8503s | [Laughter] |
| 8511s | Spike yeah yeah that would be the but |
| 8514s | that's not what they want but I think |
| 8515s | the hilarious ones |
| 8517s | the Distortion the low the low hanging |
| 8520s | uh egg |
| 8523s | yeah would you shoot |
| 8525s | [Laughter] |
| 8529s | who knows who knows |
| 8532s | that's it yeah okay I'll do again I want |
| 8534s | to give a real answer to this one I mean |
| 8538s | like I don't know like if we were at |
| 8540s | least a next king would they perform |
| 8542s | well I don't know it's hard to say it's |
| 8545s | very it's a very in thing within a small |
| 8548s | circle of the government it's hard to |
| 8550s | say oh yeah how popular I think a lot of |
| 8551s | people would be just confused yeah what |
| 8553s | what's going on like and the two the two |
| 8556s | skins which do have X involved oh yeah |
| 8559s | true well we have two skins in the game |
| 8561s | which have a connection to X we have |
| 8564s | like Chicken Rico |
| 8566s | and we do have |
| 8568s | um the the original Lou a king blue King |
| 8571s | Lou yeah proper skin that has X |
| 8574s | they were not exceptionally popular I |
| 8577s | can tell you that so yes yeah I'm not |
| 8580s | sure I'm not sure the egg crowd has to |
| 8582s | step up yeah you're not lobbying well |
| 8584s | enough yeah what is the job I have no |
| 8587s | idea |
| 8588s | because like the it was because of the |
| 8590s | first make campaign right ah Egg Bowl |
| 8592s | was the first one so when we had the |
| 8595s | first Super Zombie campaign someone made |
| 8597s | a bowl like an egg like just put the |
| 8599s | texture nice on the egg nice and then it |
| 8602s | was like one of the top |
| 8604s | skins and then every campaign after that |
| 8608s | we got an X yeah we got an egg the |
| 8610s | option |
| 8612s | all right so that was the last question |
| 8615s | uh maybe spent do you want to do any |
| 8617s | final consideration Famous Last Words |
| 8619s | yeah I haven't got anything else you |
| 8621s | guys |
| 8622s | answered everything for me |
| 8624s | cool okay we're happy with that yeah how |
| 8627s | did you feel was it nice |
| 8629s | yeah it was it was good I'm not too good |
| 8631s | Under Pressure but |
| 8633s | I think it was good most of the |
| 8635s | questions I was thinking of you just |
| 8637s | ended up answering anyways okay I feel |
| 8639s | like he answered pretty much all the |
| 8640s | questions for the game economy I think |
| 8642s | that was the main one that everyone felt |
| 8643s | like they weren't getting the gold but |
| 8645s | they were supposed to but you guys just |
| 8649s | answered it all for me I didn't even was |
| 8651s | there anything that we answered that you |
| 8652s | feel like but I still have some |
| 8654s | questions or like is still there's |
| 8655s | something in the dark I mean for me it |
| 8658s | was just I wanted |
| 8660s | to where like Club league and power |
| 8662s | League improvements but obviously that's |
| 8664s | to come pretty soon so that's the big |
| 8667s | one for me kind of waiting for more news |
| 8668s | on that because For the Longest Time |
| 8670s | Club leagues just felt a bit too grindy |
| 8672s | but yeah yeah we agree thanks pretty |
| 8674s | soon so yep cool I'm up here then that's |
| 8678s | it thank you everyone thanks everyone |
| 8680s | first time here and thank you the crowd |
| 8682s | for the crowd the crew thanks Ben for |
| 8685s | working behind the camera and yeah |
| 8688s | thanks see you next time thank you |
| 8691s | thank you |