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| 0s | is there a coin shortage in brow star |
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| 3s | and no more permanent features you'll |
| 5s | find out the answer during this episode |
| 7s | so keep |
| 10s | watching hello everyone welcome to time |
| 13s | to explain uh we've been long time |
| 16s | without a podcast and I think it was |
| 18s | worthy enough that I will bring those |
| 20s | special guests today uh welcome Teddy um |
| 24s | maybe you can uh introduce yourself to |
| 26s | the community yeah well some of you guys |
| 28s | might know me already from the broad |
| 30s | Championship I've been casting over |
| 31s | there for a few years now and yeah I'm |
| 34s | thrilled to be here thank you for having |
| 35s | me cool and how about you ready what's |
| 37s | up y'all I'm Ready Set you probably also |
| 39s | know me from the brawl Stars |
| 41s | championship and I stream on Twitch at |
| 43s | twitch.tv/ ret we are uh joined also by |
| 47s | Adrian game |
| 48s | designer yeah uh yeah you have me to |
| 51s | blame for all the balance changes and |
| 53s | all the op Brawlers you put the Target |
| 55s | on you man yeah I do I'm getting I'm |
| 57s | taking the heat from everyone else you |
| 58s | know yeah and then Frank |
| 60s | hi I'm |
| 62s | Frank best intro ever it's like we for |
| 65s | this episode we have a lot of questions |
| 67s | we don't have a certain topic just |
| 69s | because like it was being so long we had |
| 71s | uh an episode before uh but just some |
| 73s | tips for you guys like increase the |
| 76s | speed of this video like by 1.5 that's a |
| 79s | life hacks for you and then if you don't |
| 82s | speak English then trigger the subtitles |
| 85s | and I hope you had you could understand |
| 87s | at least that sentence um so then let's |
| 90s | jump straight into questions there's a |
| 91s | lot of questions here to to be answers |
| 93s | spicy ones casual ones but I divided |
| 97s | them by social media so we have Twitter |
| 100s | first and then let's |
| 102s | go first question from |
| 105s | Spen uh he has actually four questions |
| 108s | will will there be Improvement to the |
| 110s | top percentage of ranked Masters as far |
| 113s | any pro semi pro pro level of Gamers of |
| 117s | games is the standard of gold in power |
| 119s | League |
| 120s | so basically improvements to |
| 123s | ranked um maybe Frank do you want to |
| 126s | take this one interesting uh yeah in |
| 129s | general we of |
| 131s | course to take a step back right we we |
| 134s | had this moment where we transitioned |
| 136s | from the previous for power League to |
| 137s | rank earlier this this year and the the |
| 142s | main purpose of it was to to transition |
| 144s | to a world where just more people are |
| 146s | playing |
| 147s | ranked and we said ourself a goal for |
| 151s | this like to to actually measure how |
| 152s | many people are playing and that goal |
| 156s | was more than achieved so instead of |
| 158s | just like a number of below 5% of our |
| 161s | daily active players playing ranked |
| 163s | which is like you know five people out |
| 166s | of a room with 100 people which is not |
| 168s | great now there's you know a significant |
| 171s | amount of people playing double digits |
| 174s | which is |
| 175s | great |
| 177s | um and so we want to sustain that the |
| 180s | that's kind of important piece like |
| 181s | creating features for just 5% of the |
| 184s | community is kind of wasteful and |
| 187s | locking content behind that is also |
| 189s | wasteful so we we will probably not go |
| 192s | back to a world where we have a very |
| 194s | exclusive thing going on however we do |
| 198s | think that rank could be better um we we |
| 201s | would like rank to be very competitive |
| 203s | on the high |
| 204s | end and yeah we're looking into options |
| 207s | what we can do with that we don't have |
| 208s | anything yet to talk about but it's |
| 211s | something we're actively thinking about |
| 213s | right |
| 214s | now I think when it comes to ranked like |
| 218s | the the issue with the top level |
| 219s | gameplay is that you have people that |
| 221s | are um able to more easily achieve that |
| 224s | high level where they're able to get to |
| 225s | Masters and so while it is now way more |
| 229s | accessible for people to achieve Masters |
| 232s | it really affects the matchmaking at |
| 233s | that top level so if you are if you do |
| 236s | want to be a top player and you get to |
| 237s | that top level once you've reached m |
| 240s | those are the only people you're going |
| 241s | to match with so if you say hey I want |
| 244s | to push you know as high of Elo as I can |
| 247s | doesn't matter if you're like 30,000 ELO |
| 249s | you're still going to be facing those |
| 250s | 9,000 ELO players and the matchmaking |
| 253s | doesn't get any more |
| 255s | competitive yeah I think that's a that's |
| 257s | just a matter of fact of life you know |
| 260s | when you're on top of the pyramid |
| 261s | there's just not more people so so it's |
| 264s | really like that's that so yeah again |
| 268s | once you're on top of the pyramid you're |
| 269s | on top of of the pyramid there's nothing |
| 272s | you can really do about that so either |
| 274s | you go to extreme length for the |
| 276s | matchmaking times |
| 278s | or well I don't know what the |
| 281s | alternative have a bigger pool of |
| 282s | players but um but there's only so much |
| 285s | to do about that the maybe to spend |
| 288s | second question which is more about the |
| 290s | distribution of the ELO ranks that is a |
| 293s | very natural distribution of how numbers |
| 295s | just are distributed that's not changing |
| 297s | significantly season over season you |
| 299s | have of course a of people on bronze one |
| 302s | and then it's falling down quickly and |
| 304s | then there's some logical steps right |
| 306s | when you when you cross from gold into |
| 308s | Diamond there's of course a falloff |
| 310s | because of how we structured the whole |
| 312s | system because you know more people have |
| 315s | 12 Brawlers at max power level yeah so |
| 319s | he his question like uh for people |
| 322s | listening uh he he asked to have some |
| 325s | graphs and we have prepare like the |
| 327s | distribution graphs of yeah this one |
| 331s | it's like this is like uh is the last |
| 334s | season of power league and then the last |
| 336s | season of ranked like you can see like |
| 339s | the the blue one Spar league and then |
| 342s | you can see how like a lot of the people |
| 344s | are like in bronze and uh Bron 2 and |
| 347s | bronze 3 meaning they were not |
| 349s | playing but also like the legendary like |
| 353s | you can see like the the blue one is |
| 355s | almost invisible as in Masters uh but |
| 358s | you can see that in although there are a |
| 360s | lot of people there it's not like a huge |
| 363s | amount of people like it still is a very |
| 365s | tiny percentage and still uh like uh we |
| 370s | are aware of the problem still like I I |
| 372s | know that the pro players they want to |
| 374s | feel that the Masters should feel |
| 376s | competitive like that every match should |
| 378s | be sweaty um and I think considering |
| 382s | like this the this graph you can see |
| 384s | that we don't need to tweak anything in |
| 387s | below Masters right or it could be like |
| 389s | maybe that we only change something in |
| 391s | Masters and that could solve the problem |
| 393s | already and then it just like they |
| 396s | speedrun to Masters and then that's |
| 397s | where rank starts for then could be one |
| 399s | solution but uh we are aware of the |
| 401s | problem and is something that we want to |
| 403s | tackle |
| 405s | eventually I think there's just a |
| 406s | practical reality really that at some |
| 408s | point you know even in that sub one% |
| 412s | that is in Masters there's still skill |
| 415s | differences mhm and and at some point |
| 418s | there's just again you have this comprom |
| 420s | between matchmaking times and match |
| 422s | length do you want to wait 30 minutes to |
| 424s | get a 90c |
| 425s | match and that is uh that there will |
| 428s | always be the compromise and I |
| 430s | understand that people seek more |
| 432s | competitive games but then that's |
| 434s | probably not ranked that's probably |
| 437s | OTS so that then then maybe you have to |
| 440s | look outside of the game to find |
| 442s | competitions like on matcherino for for |
| 444s | example Etc so that we have solutions |
| 446s | for that it's just that they're not |
| 449s | necessarily inside the game game yeah |
| 451s | and then his following question is I |
| 453s | know it's important to look at the |
| 454s | majority at the player base but the |
| 456s | hardcore player are feeling really left |
| 457s | out are there any plans to improve the |
| 459s | late game for us the one the |
| 462s | 0.1% ladder rewards ranker rewards |
| 466s | Etc I think I can quickly touch on the |
| 469s | trophy system yeah maybe it's like so |
| 472s | the trophy system today it's all right |
| 475s | right it works it's it's one of these |
| 477s | things that we had in the game since |
| 478s | forever it's a of brawl and it's not |
| 481s | going to go anywhere as a system however |
| 484s | today there's I think two desires which |
| 487s | are competing with each other there's on |
| 489s | one side the average player which is a |
| 492s | line chare of our players those guys |
| 494s | want to push trophies and right now |
| 496s | they're getting still stuck relatively |
| 497s | early in the system because then things |
| 499s | get really really sweaty and on the |
| 502s | other side you have endgame players who |
| 503s | want to push High trophies that want to |
| 505s | compete with each other on that high |
| 507s | level at the same time matchmaking is |
| 509s | incredible slow you know you see that |
| 512s | when you go to Twitch and you try to to |
| 514s | find some people who like wait 10 |
| 516s | minutes play one match wait 10 minutes |
| 519s | play one match which is super |
| 520s | unsatisfying makes it also unattractive |
| 522s | to actually stream on Twitch when you |
| 524s | push trophies so the question is can we |
| 526s | find a system that is solving both make |
| 530s | it more attractive for people to push |
| 531s | trophies give more people the chance to |
| 533s | push trophies and at the same time have |
| 536s | something competitive at the end where |
| 538s | people can compete for a rank or high |
| 541s | score or something like that and it's |
| 543s | something we're actively working on |
| 544s | right |
| 546s | now and his last question The Limited |
| 550s | limited events have been crazy popular |
| 552s | but the biggest draw back has to be that |
| 555s | there hasn't been many permanent |
| 557s | features which is like one of the |
| 558s | trending topics right now after we |
| 560s | announced the SpongeBob |
| 563s | collaboration and SpongeBob is off to a |
| 565s | fantastic start by the way um so it's |
| 568s | like it's it's it's it's really |
| 570s | incredible all these I mean we are |
| 573s | obviously super excited about the |
| 574s | temporary events right SpongeBob now but |
| 577s | before uh Godzilla was like was crazy |
| 580s | good for the game um the the classic |
| 584s | brawl event was also great for the game |
| 585s | getting us through summer in a better |
| 587s | way than than ever before so so those |
| 590s | temporary events are very important but |
| 593s | I think the learning from the last half |
| 595s | year or so as a team is that we maybe |
| 598s | over indexed a little bit on the tempor |
| 600s | content because like we we do feel that |
| 603s | there's issues in the game and that |
| 604s | there's systems in the game we want to |
| 607s | make better so so we |
| 609s | are yeah we we acknowledge that and we |
| 613s | feel the same in the team it's like hey |
| 615s | there's bigger things we would like to |
| 617s | change but we have all this temporary |
| 619s | content so so we need to find a better |
| 622s | balance so I guess what I'm saying is |
| 625s | that for the looking over the next year |
| 627s | or so and we're going to talk more about |
| 629s | that in a separate video but over the |
| 631s | next year or so we're going to find a |
| 634s | better balance for this between |
| 636s | temporary additions to the game which |
| 637s | are really hype and which really help |
| 639s | the game in the bigger scheme of things |
| 642s | and making permanent |
| 643s | improvements and uh hopefully some of |
| 645s | those things will already start showing |
| 647s | with the next update um yeah that's that |
| 652s | I'm curious to hear how you quantify uh |
| 654s | those like the Godzilla and the classic |
| 656s | brawl event as being like better for the |
| 658s | game like what are the metrics that you |
| 659s | look at oh for us it's it's like we |
| 661s | largely look at engagement metrics so |
| 664s | engagement metrics are you know how easy |
| 667s | is it for new players to find the game |
| 669s | because there's so much bus out there um |
| 672s | are old players coming back to the game |
| 674s | so re-engagement so super easy to |
| 677s | measure metrics for us and both of these |
| 680s | numbers then they automatically become |
| 683s | those two numbers and the retention of |
| 684s | existing players those that becomes our |
| 688s | daily active players our monthly active |
| 689s | players we actually have the graph here |
| 692s | um just a a note tip from ready I will |
| 696s | remove the numbers and don't question |
| 698s | about the numbers just because we don't |
| 699s | want to share with competitors but we |
| 701s | want to show the trends the trends are |
| 703s | real still uh here like uh December 22 |
| 706s | is when we remove boxes and then here |
| 708s | we're actually we're in a good State |
| 709s | like the game was quite big uh for for |
| 713s | mobile games and like in the industry in |
| 715s | general uh but then you can see like |
| 717s | when you uh started doing like community |
| 720s | events and um like you can see that the |
| 723s | Baseline increases right it's not only |
| 725s | the peak but when the the event dies or |
| 727s | like the the novelty where wors off the |
| 732s | people stays in the game so like it's |
| 734s | really important to have like those big |
| 736s | news worthy thing that like it catches |
| 739s | the attention of someone who is not a |
| 740s | braw player or like someone who stops |
| 743s | playing braw for a while they see like |
| 745s | oh there's like johon Cena there what is |
| 746s | happening and then like they they go |
| 748s | they come back to the game and then they |
| 750s | stay so I think it's really important |
| 752s | like to bring more um to bring awareness |
| 757s | that this game exist and then is Big so |
| 760s | it's it's really important for us and |
| 761s | you can see uh again uh after we remove |
| 765s | boxes we added uh Mastery and we added |
| 768s | blink and our Trend was just going down |
| 770s | right even though those are like quality |
| 772s | of life improvements or like systems |
| 774s | that are better for every player in |
| 776s | general it doesn't bring as much novelty |
| 779s | or awareness as we would like to this is |
| 782s | one of the things I was thinking about |
| 783s | earlier uh because I see as well on |
| 786s | social media a lot of people complaining |
| 787s | about like no long-term like you know |
| 790s | content being added and it's a lot of |
| 791s | temporary stuff but then a lot of the |
| 793s | long-term content didn't do as well |
| 796s | before like you know many of those like |
| 797s | big changes to to Quality of Life uh and |
| 800s | even when I think about like game modes |
| 802s | that aren't tied to like an event very |
| 804s | often they they're doing fine for a few |
| 806s | days but then people kind of you know |
| 808s | payload volley bro like they don't |
| 809s | really stay popular for long uh whereas |
| 812s | for the game modes I feel like it's |
| 814s | worked much better for the events as |
| 815s | well and I feel like we really see the |
| 816s | results too yeah yeah I think people |
| 819s | like some something we also as as a team |
| 822s | feel pretty strongly about it's like |
| 824s | it's sometimes hard like people like |
| 826s | Adrian Dan and myself we are pretty |
| 829s | hardcore Gamers right we we like to |
| 832s | compete you know but |
| 834s | hardcore don't sell yourself short Denny |
| 837s | don't sell yourself short so so best |
| 840s | Piper like so so we really competitive |
| 843s | players we also play competitive games |
| 845s | outside of brawl right we're always |
| 846s | trying out the latest competitive games |
| 848s | we're always like we're into Esports so |
| 851s | but the the majority of our players are |
| 853s | not and that's just like something we |
| 857s | have to acknowledge and there's |
| 858s | sometimes this misconception that yeah |
| 860s | but these hardcore people they pay the |
| 861s | bills no yes of course they're important |
| 864s | players for us yes they're more likely |
| 867s | to be payers as well to keep us float |
| 870s | but the lion chair of everything comes |
| 873s | from this big group in the middle so so |
| 876s | if you cannot keep the Lion Share |
| 877s | entertain nothing else works here you |
| 880s | know we have to we have to reduce the |
| 882s | team size we're not getting the support |
| 884s | from the company we cannot invest as |
| 886s | much in marketing we cannot invest as |
| 888s | much into Esports so it's like a whole |
| 890s | like we need to make this the most |
| 893s | sustainable business ever and for that |
| 895s | to achieve we need to entertain the |
| 897s | masses right that everyone will tell you |
| 899s | the same you you need to reach a mass |
| 902s | audience and guess what what they like |
| 906s | chaos chaos is really |
| 909s | fun so so you know like when when we did |
| 912s | the Godzilla event the first time with |
| 913s | the mutations it was broken yeah I'm |
| 916s | going to say some of them went a bit |
| 918s | overboard but I think the fundamental |
| 920s | idea was still good yes yeah it was it |
| 923s | was like and I would actually argue now |
| 925s | SpongeBob is already a few steps ahead |
| 927s | of that from these learnings right |
| 929s | there's there's likely not going to be |
| 931s | one or two Brawlers right now in this |
| 933s | event that's just stick out in the game |
| 934s | modes the the the 3v3 V3 V3 |
| 940s | Showdown Showdown you know you you you |
| 943s | will likely have a much more diverse |
| 944s | meta there what whatever the abilities |
| 947s | of the characters are whatever you know |
| 949s | and all the characters are now equally |
| 951s | involved and so on and so forth so it's |
| 953s | you know we're trying to learn and make |
| 954s | things better but yes chaos is really |
| 956s | fun also for us you know it's really fun |
| 959s | to Lo and and have a different |
| 960s | experience for change so we we don't |
| 963s | want this to go anywhere we at the same |
| 965s | time you know we want people to play |
| 967s | ranked or who don't want that chaos they |
| 969s | still have a way to play the game and |
| 971s | that's fine but but you know there |
| 973s | shouldn't be an expectation that we only |
| 975s | focus on this normal play experience but |
| 977s | as we already said we also we want to |
| 980s | make permanent improvements yeah and I |
| 983s | just want to touch really quick because |
| 984s | we we said chaos but you also mentioned |
| 986s | it I think it's not only about chaos |
| 987s | it's about actually feeling that the |
| 989s | game you're playing with the characters |
| 991s | that you love is different like they |
| 993s | behave a little bit differently but it's |
| 994s | still familiar I think that's a really |
| 996s | enticing kind of proposition for a lot |
| 998s | of players where oh okay I really love |
| 1000s | Edgar but now my Edgar is behaving a |
| 1002s | little bit in a cooler way or |
| 1003s | differently or I feel stronger like |
| 1005s | that's a cool moment even if only |
| 1007s | temporary so I think that's how what we |
| 1009s | have to keep in mind chaos is great but |
| 1011s | also familiarity is important in that |
| 1013s | chaos if that makes sense yeah I think |
| 1015s | those SpongeBob powerups have been a you |
| 1018s | know nice nonin way also um pretty |
| 1021s | rewarding considering that you don't |
| 1022s | have so many things to collect now with |
| 1025s | the Godzilla event there were so many |
| 1026s | different mutations and now you can get |
| 1029s | one ability and you can use it on |
| 1031s | multiple Brawlers and it's just kind of |
| 1033s | like a little bonus you know it doesn't |
| 1035s | really fundamentally change how they |
| 1036s | work you know remember Meg shooting out |
| 1038s | like a billion shots or or Colonel Ruffs |
| 1042s | with his shot bouncing everywhere I mean |
| 1043s | you're not even using him the same but |
| 1045s | now it's like more of an accent right |
| 1048s | helps the brawler do what they do better |
| 1050s | in not a fundamentally different way |
| 1053s | exactly yeah there's also a cool side |
| 1055s | effect because when we do events like |
| 1057s | that and we we try out new mechanics |
| 1059s | right sometimes they lead to permanent |
| 1061s | improvements like the the mech the mech |
| 1064s | example is like it started with the |
| 1066s | mutation but then we like hey it's |
| 1069s | actually really fun to play Mech like |
| 1070s | that way better like and and guess guess |
| 1072s | what so we introduced it to a main kit |
| 1074s | and we slightly changed the main kit |
| 1076s | because it's just more fun yeah and |
| 1077s | right now I think me is doing really |
| 1079s | well yeah like she's of course it's tied |
| 1081s | to the power level as well like yes |
| 1082s | she's stronger but it's also she feels |
| 1085s | more fun to play and therefore the |
| 1087s | popularity increases by a lot cuz she |
| 1088s | was one of our most unpopular Brawlers |
| 1090s | before the change and even before the |
| 1093s | previous change as well um but now she's |
| 1095s | actually more higher SL middle of the |
| 1097s | pack so just where we want her to be and |
| 1100s | yeah I mean Meg's a great example Rico |
| 1102s | um inspired the hyper charge of course |
| 1104s | um in a ton down version because we |
| 1106s | didn't want the cross map bounces |
| 1108s | killing everyone so yeah and then I |
| 1111s | guess answering also |
| 1113s | to R's question like how the the metrics |
| 1117s | or like what we look at to measure |
| 1119s | success like you can see like in April |
| 1121s | here like that was the the 100 star |
| 1124s | drops uh event and then you can see how |
| 1127s | much it increased the Baseline right but |
| 1129s | also like uh they like it create like a |
| 1133s | interesting phenomenon that we start |
| 1135s | bursting the bubble of the of brw Star |
| 1138s | right so like with a community event |
| 1140s | where like we didn't spend like a lot of |
| 1142s | marketing on this thing it was like done |
| 1143s | internally by this beautiful thing out |
| 1145s | here uh but but like um Brands like NBA |
| 1151s | or like Juventus like they would start |
| 1152s | talking about the event right so like |
| 1154s | they pick up things that are happening |
| 1156s | the pop culture and then we became pop |
| 1158s | culture because people are shouting |
| 1160s | about this so much that it becomes like |
| 1162s | a organic marketing uh and then there's |
| 1164s | a funny story here like one one parent |
| 1167s | of supercell they got a a call from |
| 1170s | school saying like no the kids are not |
| 1173s | paying attention to the class because |
| 1174s | they were all opening the start drops |
| 1176s | it's like you can see the effect of this |
| 1178s | one thing how much is spreading |
| 1180s | organically right so I think it's um the |
| 1183s | we do that because the results are |
| 1185s | amazing and it has been growing the game |
| 1188s | basically with that and then of course |
| 1190s | like underneath we will try now to add |
| 1193s | like those permanent features like the |
| 1194s | quality of life because then we we think |
| 1196s | it's important and they still help our |
| 1198s | metrics it's basically for the longevity |
| 1200s | right like it's the long longevity of |
| 1202s | the game like yes we could make in |
| 1204s | temporary things and yes we have these |
| 1205s | spikes but eventually like you know |
| 1206s | there is a burnout Factor there as well |
| 1208s | if the game fundamentally doesn't |
| 1210s | improve then that's not going to be |
| 1212s | exciting in the long run either so I |
| 1214s | think we yeah we have importance of both |
| 1216s | I want to say one more thing about like |
| 1218s | collaborations Etc as well as something |
| 1220s | more from the marketing and the business |
| 1222s | side when you when you're trying to find |
| 1224s | new players for a game where do you look |
| 1227s | you know like and and for us one one of |
| 1231s | the approaches on the marketing side is |
| 1232s | to find so what is our brand what how do |
| 1236s | how do people feel about our brand and |
| 1239s | what are other brands they like the type |
| 1241s | of people who enjoy brawl and then it's |
| 1243s | like oh SpongeBob they like SpongeBob |
| 1246s | and then SpongeBob has a different |
| 1249s | audience so they have millions and |
| 1251s | millions of |
| 1252s | players players Watchers viewers |
| 1254s | possible who possible players who never |
| 1257s | played brawl who don't even know about |
| 1258s | brawl but they know about SpongeBob you |
| 1261s | know that that gives us a a tool to |
| 1264s | reach people and audiences who never |
| 1266s | heard about braw in the past and you can |
| 1268s | actually see that with our brawl talk |
| 1270s | now or even the videos afterwards the |
| 1272s | brawl talk normally is trending and |
| 1273s | gaming around the world when you look at |
| 1275s | YouTube you know you see the trending |
| 1278s | positions but uh this time it trended in |
| 1281s | general so so we we hit like the top 10 |
| 1285s | top 10 trending across the globe and and |
| 1288s | that is like so cool including like |
| 1290s | Japan where it's really really hard as a |
| 1293s | non Japanese video to hit into the top |
| 1295s | 10 so it's like these these brand |
| 1298s | collaborations just help us to reach |
| 1300s | more people just to create awareness |
| 1302s | about |
| 1303s | brawl like how is that process typically |
| 1305s | like is it like you guys reaching out to |
| 1308s | in this case like Nickelodeon or or |
| 1310s | Godzilla or is it like them reaching out |
| 1312s | like how does that work it can go both |
| 1314s | ways so we have some we have a business |
| 1317s | development team so that job is to find |
| 1319s | Partnerships for us and and sometimes |
| 1322s | these Partnerships are inbound so |
| 1324s | someone reaches out saying hey I'd |
| 1325s | really like to work with you guys and |
| 1327s | sometimes it's the other way around so |
| 1329s | it's like but for example now that we do |
| 1333s | this a bit more regularly we are looking |
| 1335s | already at 2025 because these |
| 1337s | collaborations are not fast most of them |
| 1340s | take a year plus to to come to life so |
| 1344s | it's it's not a hey we have an idea and |
| 1346s | next month we're going to work with |
| 1347s | these guys no it's it's really like a |
| 1351s | year it can be multiple years you know |
| 1353s | to to some other brands we're talking |
| 1355s | for for years and years and years |
| 1357s | already and nothing has materialized so |
| 1360s | it's uh yeah yeah and I think like also |
| 1363s | like we we put out a good event there |
| 1365s | for SpongeBob then the other brands will |
| 1367s | see and like I want to do the same with |
| 1369s | this brand right like that's why it's |
| 1371s | very important to make a big deal out of |
| 1373s | these things and I think it even |
| 1375s | happened like another brand that you're |
| 1376s | discussing I think they're more they can |
| 1378s | see what we can do right so that they're |
| 1380s | more open to new ideas and new events |
| 1383s | and everything so that was one question |
| 1387s | good job guys Yes we made it no now we |
| 1389s | go like a speedrun maybe okay let's |
| 1391s | speedrun five hours later |
| 1394s | yeah huge amount of petties Arc your |
| 1399s | compatriot uh can't help but to ask a |
| 1402s | spicy one you said uh in a past podcast |
| 1405s | that's the game performing well that the |
| 1407s | game performing well is essenti for |
| 1409s | doing things like brow Sports now that |
| 1411s | the game is financially performing the |
| 1413s | best it ever has can we expect to see |
| 1415s | more budget rolling into brow Sports |
| 1419s | 2025 praise |
| 1421s | [Laughter] |
| 1424s | emote |
| 1426s | well there there's the the short answer |
| 1429s | is |
| 1431s | yes wait |
| 1435s | the the worst timing ever it worked |
| 1439s | it's good for me and Teddy that means |
| 1441s | more work for |
| 1442s | us the the Longs is a bit more |
| 1445s | complicated it's um so so the way like |
| 1450s | the way budgeting works is not that |
| 1453s | Nimble |
| 1454s | so so when last year was was pretty much |
| 1459s | the worst year we ever had in Broar so |
| 1462s | financially speaking it was like our |
| 1464s | yeah our West |
| 1466s | year and so the fact that we had braw |
| 1470s | Esports this year even though it was |
| 1474s | maybe not as big as it was in the |
| 1475s | previous years is is I think a testament |
| 1479s | to our our ambition to keep Esports |
| 1483s | going even when we have a year that's |
| 1484s | not so great this year we have a pretty |
| 1487s | good |
| 1488s | year and that will show in one way or |
| 1491s | another next year and so next year will |
| 1494s | be better than this year without going |
| 1497s | too much into detail yeah so pretty much |
| 1499s | like |
| 1500s | we we plan one year ahead in so like |
| 1504s | it's it's we it's not that like the game |
| 1506s | is performing well and then like let's |
| 1507s | invest more money here for no reason |
| 1509s | like we have to think about how we going |
| 1511s | to apply this or like uh um how we are |
| 1515s | get taking the profit like how we |
| 1516s | calculate the budget like what we want |
| 1518s | to do as a whole and if it makes sense |
| 1520s | so like it takes time to actually apply |
| 1523s | the the uh the performance of the game |
| 1526s | into our marketing activities I think we |
| 1528s | will we're a bit faster to apply for the |
| 1531s | product for example we are doing more |
| 1533s | animations and then just because like |
| 1535s | hey we have this opportunity let's like |
| 1537s | uh take the momentum right that's the |
| 1539s | right time to like just go but Esports |
| 1541s | needs a bit more time to restructure and |
| 1543s | everything so that's why it doesn't uh |
| 1546s | appear |
| 1547s | immediately yeah different parts of our |
| 1549s | business have a different you know |
| 1551s | flexibility built in yeah when you think |
| 1553s | about like ads you know just going out |
| 1556s | there have more ads show more ads to |
| 1558s | people about process that's something |
| 1560s | done very easily because it's almost |
| 1562s | like a dial you dial up you spend more |
| 1564s | money you reach more people uh Esports |
| 1567s | is normally something that has been |
| 1569s | agreed on there has been a plan there's |
| 1570s | events planned there's a schedule |
| 1573s | there's a you know tons of structures in |
| 1575s | place which which is pretty much making |
| 1577s | it a fixed cost and something that's |
| 1580s | locked in for a year and yes you can do |
| 1583s | things on the side here and there to to |
| 1585s | make things better but at the end of the |
| 1587s | day it's pretty much locked in or the |
| 1589s | year before and and for example right |
| 1591s | now we're discussing and we we have a |
| 1593s | preliminary plan for next year and it's |
| 1596s | uh |
| 1598s | September feel like the contrast like |
| 1601s | for 2024 has been particularly extreme |
| 1604s | where like everything was decided in |
| 1605s | 2023 which was like the worst year for |
| 1607s | brawlstar and now it's the best year so |
| 1609s | it feels like particularly out of touch |
| 1611s | and I think that's also why a lot of |
| 1612s | people are like kind of upset about it |
| 1615s | including myself but we do also |
| 1618s | understand that like you know it's a |
| 1620s | year yearly planning so at some point |
| 1623s | especially like months into it uh |
| 1625s | actually nearing the end of the |
| 1627s | competitive year now like it's probably |
| 1630s | the moment where it's the most like yeah |
| 1632s | out of touch with with with the current |
| 1634s | state of the game yeah yeah that's we |
| 1637s | agree yeah super Fair yeah I think just |
| 1638s | by and large people lack that |
| 1640s | perspective that in business things take |
| 1643s | time because they don't have the |
| 1644s | exposure to that side of things I mean |
| 1646s | and you can know right unless someone |
| 1647s | tells you like we do now |
| 1649s | time to explain how would you know so |
| 1652s | that's that's the point of this yeah all |
| 1655s | right uh next question from Power couple |
| 1657s | gaming it's time to explain why it took |
| 1659s | so long to have an episode of time to |
| 1661s | explain why don't well we didn't have |
| 1663s | time to |
| 1664s | explain there was no time yeah I guess |
| 1667s | like uh we are producing a lot more and |
| 1670s | our team and our team is growing but |
| 1673s | doesn't grow as fast as it can right |
| 1675s | because hiring people takes time needs |
| 1677s | to be a right feet it need to be um like |
| 1681s | once the person actually joins you need |
| 1682s | to be on boarded to understand |
| 1684s | everything and then it I don't know like |
| 1686s | I would say even like six to nine months |
| 1688s | is when like the person actually becomes |
| 1691s | uh productive for us or something like |
| 1693s | that yeah but uh yeah we didn't have the |
| 1695s | time and then it was always in the back |
| 1697s | of my mind and then actually ready he |
| 1699s | said like hey I'm in Europe what about |
| 1701s | uh time to explain thanks ready and then |
| 1703s | I said pleasure is all mine ready how |
| 1705s | long can you stay in |
| 1707s | Europe oh that was that was an |
| 1709s | interesting one because initially we |
| 1710s | thought cuz I traveled here for lcq we |
| 1712s | thought oh well you know I'll just hit |
| 1714s | Helsinki right after lcq and then things |
| 1716s | had to be pushed back and so like okay |
| 1718s | ready can you find anything to do in |
| 1720s | Europe another week yeah yeah so so I |
| 1723s | just got to hang out with some of my |
| 1725s | coasters Teddy tagged along for some of |
| 1726s | it it's it's been a fun Journey no ready |
| 1729s | Leed on the streets for |
| 1731s | this rough times thank you thank you for |
| 1733s | his some nice Bridges and housing that |
| 1735s | is true that is true um anik kilo in the |
| 1740s | next bro talk we will explain the pet of |
| 1742s | bro stars or is it no longer in the |
| 1744s | plans like so he meant the road |
| 1747s | map we have a plan it won't be in Brawl |
| 1750s | talk we will have a separate uh format |
| 1753s | for this this time around but we're |
| 1756s | already working on it so yes yes we will |
| 1759s | talk about the road map we we of course |
| 1761s | like we have estimative date we want to |
| 1763s | release that but we we can't promise |
| 1766s | anything but we want to be before or the |
| 1768s | next Pro talk that's right |
| 1772s | yeah uh from Trev tari BS uh I would be |
| 1778s | very interesting knowing uh some of your |
| 1780s | plans regarding competitive bra this |
| 1783s | year any plans to increase price money |
| 1785s | competition competition uh again uh not |
| 1790s | saying I'm disappointed with this season |
| 1791s | but only one tournament all year doesn't |
| 1794s | satisfy my PR fars hunger um King had an |
| 1798s | answer here I'll just |
| 1801s | read King is our sport guy by the way uh |
| 1804s | the total price pool this year up to 2 |
| 1806s | million will be the highest total price |
| 1808s | pool for brawl star Esports and we are |
| 1810s | really excited about that we're hoping |
| 1812s | to build out several initiatives to |
| 1814s | better support third party events in the |
| 1815s | future but you still early stages of |
| 1818s | this but I think you can like link to |
| 1820s | the answer that Frank gave before that |
| 1822s | it takes time to plan and like uh it's |
| 1825s | based on the results of the previous |
| 1826s | year of the game and even though |
| 1829s | this year is like uh as king is saying |
| 1831s | is the highest price pool we ever had is |
| 1834s | that what is yeah it is it's bigger and |
| 1837s | better that's bigger and better and I |
| 1839s | think maybe the the issue is that maybe |
| 1841s | it's because how it's like divided |
| 1843s | across the events or maybe people are |
| 1844s | not seeing the value but it is bigger |
| 1846s | than before so um yeah we always like |
| 1849s | have Esports in our |
| 1851s | hearts I think that like it particularly |
| 1854s | feels a bit empty in Esports because |
| 1856s | like there's no third party event like |
| 1858s | much less they're they're kind of coming |
| 1860s | back so you know keep an eye out but it |
| 1863s | does feel a bit more empty than like |
| 1865s | previous years and I don't think there's |
| 1867s | necessarily like less BC it's just |
| 1869s | there's less Esports in general yeah |
| 1872s | yeah I think also like if we compare |
| 1874s | this year to 2021 for example we used to |
| 1877s | have monthly finals on two separate |
| 1878s | weekends so half the month there was |
| 1881s | something going on over the weekend um |
| 1884s | we've also seen like the the mainland |
| 1885s | China region not be on like our main |
| 1887s | series of broadcasts anymore as that has |
| 1889s | kind of shifted to be its own thing and |
| 1891s | also the number of months has been |
| 1893s | truncated we're working with the F Monon |
| 1895s | season uh this year so it seems well I |
| 1899s | mean it's quite literally the fact that |
| 1901s | the actual competitive season has been |
| 1904s | shrinking yes we have an extra month for |
| 1905s | the bonus season for the September |
| 1907s | spectacular or however you pronounce it |
| 1909s | with the fives in the name but the |
| 1912s | actual competitive season has shrunk |
| 1914s | that is a fact yeah yeah absolutely I |
| 1917s | think we already talked about that to a |
| 1919s | degree yeah I think there's also one |
| 1921s | other element and that's something |
| 1924s | something not mentioned here but it's |
| 1927s | like often third party events are also |
| 1931s | the initiative by Third parties so so |
| 1935s | and if you know if third parties can |
| 1937s | just approach us and Pitch us something |
| 1940s | and more often than not we are |
| 1941s | supporting them so it's |
| 1944s | like yeah it's it's a mix it's I think |
| 1947s | some of the organizations and organizers |
| 1950s | which did events in previous years they |
| 1952s | opted not to do them this year um and |
| 1956s | that's that so we we we're inviting |
| 1958s | organizations and tournament organizers |
| 1960s | out there to do more and as Kim pointed |
| 1963s | out already like we have we have plans |
| 1965s | to be also more structured about |
| 1966s | supporting that in 2025 and Beyond |
| 1971s | yep cool next question from code pen |
| 1975s | pandac I already adverti this code |
| 1978s | anyway anyway uh BR Stars has had |
| 1981s | unprecedent growth due to the inclusion |
| 1983s | of stard drops hyper charges and the |
| 1984s | collaboration events in the last two |
| 1986s | years uh the key to uh to the success |
| 1989s | has been continuous innovating and |
| 1991s | providing us with exciting content the |
| 1993s | focus lately seems to be collaboration |
| 1995s | and events that focus on unlocking time |
| 1996s | limit cosmetics and abilities which |
| 1999s | means that there's a lot of development |
| 2000s | being done for something tempor |
| 2002s | temporary and not something that can be |
| 2004s | enjoy long term uh how confident is the |
| 2007s | team that the current cycle of content |
| 2010s | will continue receive a positive |
| 2012s | reception and the second part of the |
| 2014s | question is when the team finds a |
| 2015s | formula that work how do you continue to |
| 2018s | innovate so as so it doesn't |
| 2020s | stagnate yeah I think this is a good |
| 2022s | question I think we touched on this a |
| 2024s | little bit already um but I think the |
| 2027s | long story short there is yes we |
| 2028s | realized there is a disconnect between |
| 2031s | um how many temporary things we're doing |
| 2032s | versus Evergreen um but then also I |
| 2034s | think I want to talk a little bit more |
| 2035s | about the second part which is when a |
| 2037s | team a formula does work how do you |
| 2039s | continue to innovate as not to stagnate |
| 2041s | and I think this is the real interesting |
| 2042s | part because um it's very common I think |
| 2046s | in any creative field that when you find |
| 2048s | something that does work you kind of |
| 2050s | stick with it you don't want to rock the |
| 2051s | boat um but we look at it like that's |
| 2054s | actually the worst thing to do like we |
| 2056s | need to keep taking risks and we need to |
| 2058s | keep surprising players making them you |
| 2060s | know have fun with the game being |
| 2062s | surprised like in general because |
| 2065s | otherwise we're going to stagnate as |
| 2066s | well like this formula |
| 2068s | I I don't think we believe there is a |
| 2070s | winning formula per se it's just about |
| 2072s | innovating on what we already know what |
| 2074s | works and how is that even cooler if |
| 2076s | that makes sense yeah and I think like |
| 2078s | the concepts we get so for example 100 |
| 2080s | start drops was probably the best |
| 2081s | community event we ever had why didn't |
| 2083s | we do the 200 star drops or like the 100 |
| 2086s | 1001 star drops like the next one we did |
| 2090s | was the thumbs up for braw I think which |
| 2091s | was trying something new but still the |
| 2093s | same skeleton of the event right and |
| 2096s | that one didn't perform so well we |
| 2097s | believe it's because like either people |
| 2099s | don't want to be positive or like it's |
| 2101s | too much trouble to equip that and keep |
| 2104s | using the Ping or remembering you have |
| 2106s | to do that to participate where the |
| 2108s | others is just like either collect start |
| 2110s | drops or just take down Brawlers like we |
| 2112s | always try to innovate a bit so it feels |
| 2115s | fresher even though like maybe the |
| 2116s | concept or the core is the same yeah I |
| 2119s | think also with the temp like I guess a |
| 2122s | part of this question is also temporary |
| 2123s | events right so it's like that we |
| 2126s | already answered but even with the |
| 2128s | temporary events like we're trying to |
| 2130s | learn from every single event you know |
| 2132s | Godzilla was the first time we did this |
| 2134s | major major thing and and when it comes |
| 2137s | to actually the the workload that takes |
| 2140s | in the team is something we discussed |
| 2141s | for a long time it's like should we |
| 2143s | really make such a heavy |
| 2145s | investment uh of people into something |
| 2148s | that goes away |
| 2149s | forever and and so we we we contemplated |
| 2153s | a lot but then the the positive impact |
| 2156s | it had was undeniable and quickly Chang |
| 2158s | changed our mind that hey it's you it's |
| 2161s | it's totally worth it yeah um and today |
| 2165s | the the team is staffed up we have we |
| 2167s | are more people than ever so we now have |
| 2170s | actually the the team that can work on |
| 2173s | temporary events and make permanent |
| 2175s | improvements to the game so it's not a |
| 2178s | this or that anymore it's we we're in a |
| 2180s | place now where we where we get to a |
| 2182s | place where we can do both so and then |
| 2185s | the rest is about yeah iteration |
| 2187s | iteration iteration make things better |
| 2189s | like when we released Godzilla and on |
| 2191s | day one for most people there was |
| 2194s | nothing like you didn't get a free |
| 2196s | mutation or anything so it was like damn |
| 2200s | now we we should have thought about this |
| 2202s | wouldn't it be cooler to come into the |
| 2204s | game and there's something waiting for |
| 2205s | you so can immediately you have a new |
| 2207s | toy something to play with and now with |
| 2210s | SpongeBob on day one immediately there |
| 2212s | was something for free for everyone so |
| 2214s | so I think that's it's it's super |
| 2217s | important to iterate to make things |
| 2218s | better and better and better and of |
| 2220s | course we're we're Guided by our own |
| 2222s | experiences but also by data yes and |
| 2225s | player reactions of course yeah yeah |
| 2226s | yeah for |
| 2228s | sure uh continue with panda uh this |
| 2231s | sport Championship season has probably |
| 2233s | been a forgettable one for audience due |
| 2235s | to a PL of production ading and finance |
| 2237s | related issues how would the pet forward |
| 2241s | how will the pet forward ensure that |
| 2243s | issues would be the exception and not |
| 2245s | the norm like it has been this year |
| 2249s | yeah so I think like uh especially we |
| 2251s | talked to King about this question and |
| 2253s | he said like he's like painfully aware |
| 2256s | of the problems like when something like |
| 2258s | that happens like no sound in the lcq |
| 2260s | like it's not like we're like ah we |
| 2262s | don't care let's keep going like we feel |
| 2265s | the pain and then we get like anxious |
| 2267s | like we need to solve that we know that |
| 2269s | there is a time pressure to do that but |
| 2272s | um uh I think like those things happen |
| 2276s | but like we know they shouldn't be the |
| 2278s | norm like they it shouldn't be like the |
| 2281s | the expectation and actually not |
| 2283s | specifically to eorts but like to |
| 2285s | SpongeBob we were already like a bit |
| 2287s | scared like there are so many new things |
| 2289s | happening here and we have been like in |
| 2291s | the maybe three past months uh having |
| 2295s | releasing something bronen on release |
| 2297s | right so we were like is is it going to |
| 2299s | be another one of those days but that |
| 2301s | only we only have like 10 or 20 minutes |
| 2303s | of server overload and then the event |
| 2306s | went smooth like we we hope we can also |
| 2309s | do the same with sports like next year |
| 2311s | or hopefully already the finals will be |
| 2314s | way better and like uh you uh everyone |
| 2317s | can expect the that the norm is a really |
| 2321s | good fun and high quality event yep I I |
| 2325s | think the the painful part with Esports |
| 2327s | is that the issues that we've seen you |
| 2330s | know the end of the year wasn't like a |
| 2332s | necessarily like a culmination it was |
| 2334s | pretty much the same because we've had |
| 2336s | kind of issues |
| 2342s | one of those of know if we look at how |
| 2346s | the game approaches this we see like |
| 2348s | consistent improvements but for some |
| 2349s | certain things in Esports um we see |
| 2352s | those issues pop up again and again and |
| 2354s | again and I think really the answer that |
| 2357s | people want to hear is that hey you know |
| 2360s | going forward we will win in the |
| 2362s | preparation yeah I think some of the |
| 2365s | issues are also like due to Esports in |
| 2367s | general rolled the last few years uh I |
| 2369s | mean just like brawl star is a bit of a |
| 2371s | recession in gaming and Esports uh which |
| 2373s | means there's been a lot of like |
| 2375s | acquiring other companies and I feel |
| 2377s | like the the brw Esports project has |
| 2379s | kind of like switched hands a lot which |
| 2381s | means new people that haven't |
| 2383s | experienced some of the issues that you |
| 2384s | know the previous team experienced so |
| 2386s | you make the same mistakes and you learn |
| 2388s | from them but I think that process has |
| 2390s | been very rocking it's like kind of |
| 2392s | nobody's fault because it's just a very |
| 2394s | very general thing where it's been very |
| 2396s | volatile like the amount of of new |
| 2398s | people getting involved in in projects |
| 2400s | in the last few years that's a good |
| 2402s | point I think you you've like going |
| 2404s | Beyond bra rate the industry has been a |
| 2406s | pretty turbulent place at large um a lot |
| 2410s | of companies actually stopped the |
| 2412s | Esports program completely revamp the |
| 2414s | Esports programs and um yeah as you said |
| 2418s | there were tons of Acquisitions and |
| 2419s | changes and all kind of stuff happening |
| 2422s | in the industry so it's it's it's |
| 2424s | difficult to have a consistent approach |
| 2426s | and then combine that with like hey we |
| 2429s | try to keep |
| 2431s | Esports um on on a float in |
| 2435s | Brawl while at the same time we have way |
| 2437s | less budget to work with mhm so it's a |
| 2440s | like there's tons of circumstances it's |
| 2442s | not it's not an excuse I I don't think |
| 2445s | anyone is more you know seeing Kim's |
| 2447s | face when when there was no no sound and |
| 2451s | that was a hardware issue for the record |
| 2453s | there was a hardware part that's never |
| 2456s | breaking normally broke and you couldn't |
| 2459s | just switch it so it's like stuff like |
| 2463s | that unfortunately happens it's it's not |
| 2465s | great but for what it's worth I think |
| 2467s | day two was much much much much much |
| 2469s | better at the lcq so and a lot of of the |
| 2473s | issues on day one were gone on day two |
| 2475s | of course there was also the whole B |
| 2477s | stream and and you know like it's it's |
| 2480s | like it's it's easier when you just have |
| 2482s | one one stream going on but it was also |
| 2484s | worth pointing out for example for the |
| 2486s | for the monthly finals |
| 2488s | um the the only solution for us |
| 2491s | to um have best of |
| 2494s | five was to have a b stream so it's like |
| 2498s | like sometimes you know you have a |
| 2499s | limited budget you need to compromise |
| 2501s | you have limited time at your hands so |
| 2504s | where are you compromising if you would |
| 2505s | have choosen best of three would have |
| 2508s | you know the competitive Community would |
| 2509s | they have been happier than being on B |
| 2511s | stream I don't know maybe but that's a |
| 2514s | judgment call we always have to make in |
| 2516s | these situations so it's not it's not |
| 2518s | like we're happy with that but but you |
| 2520s | you don't always get what you want even |
| 2522s | even us yeah so it's like I guess at the |
| 2525s | end of the day becomes like a compromise |
| 2527s | like and we try to always prioritize |
| 2529s | essentially the players and the fans |
| 2530s | right we want what is the best |
| 2532s | experience and how can we make that |
| 2534s | happen with the resources that we have |
| 2535s | what kind of shortcuts we have to draw |
| 2538s | or stuff like that to make that happen |
| 2540s | because if we don't want to do anything |
| 2542s | half you know asked basically like we |
| 2545s | either want to do it properly or not at |
| 2547s | all that's kind of how we look at |
| 2550s | it next question uh for Frank because |
| 2554s | you know this number oh as a percentage |
| 2556s | of the current active player base how |
| 2558s | many people started playing brawl star |
| 2560s | in the last one |
| 2562s | year yeah it's a it's a number above 50% |
| 2565s | right now 50% of the players are new 50% |
| 2569s | of players right now who are playing |
| 2570s | today on you okay but but I also want to |
| 2574s | put that in relative because that |
| 2575s | doesn't you know our our user number |
| 2577s | numbers in general are higher today than |
| 2579s | they were like the last years so we are |
| 2582s | also seeing unprecedented amounts of |
| 2584s | people coming back to the game so it's |
| 2586s | not like oh all the people are new and |
| 2588s | the old school people are gone no we we |
| 2591s | have the lowest amount of people of old |
| 2593s | school people leaving the game ever |
| 2594s | essentially we have the highest amount |
| 2596s | of people coming back to the game and we |
| 2599s | see a huge influx of new users so it's |
| 2602s | really like and for us that that's that |
| 2604s | speaks to the overall healthiness of the |
| 2606s | game even though you you know not |
| 2607s | everything is perfect but overall the |
| 2610s | game is healthy because else one of |
| 2612s | these three would not be true and which |
| 2615s | country has the most players for brawl |
| 2618s | Stars let's be a little bit vague about |
| 2620s | this there there's a there's a bunch of |
| 2622s | countries which have have a big audience |
| 2625s | I think one one of the biggest markets |
| 2627s | right now is turkey M uh in in Europe of |
| 2630s | course like Germany's the biggest um but |
| 2634s | the US has been growing like crazy we |
| 2637s | more than doubled our daily active |
| 2638s | players in the US this year or North |
| 2640s | America in general Mexico has been |
| 2642s | growing like crazy uh Japan has been |
| 2645s | growing like crazy we also more than |
| 2646s | doubled our player base in Japan so so |
| 2649s | Korea is still a big number of course |
| 2652s | Brazil is a big number so it's it's like |
| 2655s | what you would expect in a way so Brazil |
| 2658s | is Big North America is Big Europe |
| 2660s | generally still is the biggest place for |
| 2662s | brawl but also Japan and Korea have been |
| 2665s | big contributors for us yep |
| 2669s | Wiggly |
| 2671s | pool uh so he has a question for you |
| 2674s | guys uh as casers what do you hope the |
| 2677s | professional Brar scene will look like |
| 2679s | in five years to come uh is there an |
| 2682s | eorts moment where waiting to witness in |
| 2684s | braw and then he misses you |
| 2686s | guys we miss him too hi Wiggly well |
| 2690s | actually no one no one calls him Wiggly |
| 2694s | hefu um as far as what I so this is like |
| 2698s | hopes and dreams you know this is my |
| 2699s | perfect world right we we could really |
| 2701s | go above and beyond uh what is possible |
| 2704s | something I'd really like to see in braw |
| 2707s | Esports is the current audience |
| 2710s | continuing to stick around as they get |
| 2713s | older and they grow up with the game I |
| 2715s | think something um that kind of plagues |
| 2718s | brawl events right now is the struggle |
| 2722s | of going to those events and being there |
| 2723s | in person not having the resources not |
| 2726s | having the assets to actually make it |
| 2727s | there to begin with um I mean let's not |
| 2730s | kid ourselves about the uh audience that |
| 2732s | this game attracts right the age range |
| 2735s | and also like of brw e Sports I mean you |
| 2739s | you may think to yourself okay what what |
| 2741s | is the age range that um we're achieving |
| 2743s | here a lot of like teenagers people who |
| 2745s | can't really travel long distances on |
| 2747s | their own particularly in North America |
| 2749s | where I did some events in North America |
| 2753s | and there were very few people in the |
| 2754s | audience and that could be chocked up to |
| 2756s | many things but I think Logistics is a |
| 2758s | huge issue that said I would love to see |
| 2760s | the current audience stay with the game |
| 2763s | um I would also like to see as Broly |
| 2765s | Sports matures that maybe the the tone |
| 2769s | shifts to be a little more not like |
| 2771s | grownup but for a um more I don't know |
| 2777s | knowledgeable uh Analytical in the know |
| 2781s | sort of audience at the moment the shows |
| 2783s | are very lean they're very fast-paced |
| 2785s | it's just like this there's no downtime |
| 2788s | there's there are no moments to really |
| 2791s | break down any analysis it's just once |
| 2794s | we finish up one game they're getting |
| 2796s | right back into the next set for the |
| 2798s | next draft and we don't really have any |
| 2801s | like visuals to um go back like there's |
| 2803s | no telestrator for instance that's |
| 2805s | something I'd really love to see like be |
| 2806s | able to Circle things like he went on a |
| 2808s | professional sports cast mhm yeah th |
| 2811s | those are those are couple things that I |
| 2813s | would like to see I think another one is |
| 2815s | if we could somehow achieve more Mass |
| 2818s | Appeal like from a casual audience in |
| 2820s | Source brly sports fans from there |
| 2822s | because as it stands a lot of most of |
| 2825s | the braw orts fans are the most |
| 2827s | dedicated in engaged players and I think |
| 2831s | that there is absolutely Mass Appeal for |
| 2835s | brawl Esports I think the problem and |
| 2839s | the challenge is just involving those |
| 2841s | more casual players in the audience I'll |
| 2844s | uh I mean honestly this was like pretty |
| 2847s | much what I had in mind as well uh so |
| 2849s | it's going to be hard to like add up to |
| 2851s | that but uh I think that we already kind |
| 2853s | of established that like the budget and |
| 2855s | stuff gets decided like according to you |
| 2859s | know how much money the game is making |
| 2861s | and how healthy the game is and that's |
| 2863s | incredibly hard to predict in the future |
| 2864s | like especially in like five years uh |
| 2866s | the game is going to have downs and UPS |
| 2869s | like you know year year after year so |
| 2871s | it's very hard to like kind of see what |
| 2873s | the scene will look like cuz it depends |
| 2874s | on so many different factors but I I |
| 2877s | complet completely agree that like |
| 2878s | seeing the audience evolve and and like |
| 2881s | just like grow up with the game uh I I |
| 2884s | think that's what kind of makes the |
| 2885s | difference between uh bro star land and |
| 2888s | like another like mainstream Esports uh |
| 2891s | title land can I mention names Carter |
| 2893s | strike that was the one that I had in |
| 2895s | mind too I I live in Dallas I went to |
| 2898s | Dallas the audiences are just remarkable |
| 2901s | mhm it's it's completely different like |
| 2904s | you actually have like chance you know |
| 2906s | yeah you have groups of friends they |
| 2907s | will travel to the event like groups of |
| 2910s | like 5 10 20 people and they'll be there |
| 2912s | like all wearing jerseys all singing for |
| 2914s | the teams all shouting like it's |
| 2917s | actually a completely different energy |
| 2919s | and we have little glimpses of that at |
| 2921s | times um but the only way to do this is |
| 2924s | to have like yeah a bit more of a mature |
| 2925s | audience and also have those like |
| 2927s | hardcore fans that only really come |
| 2930s | after time right right now like people |
| 2931s | that are heavy Esports fans they're like |
| 2935s | uh early birds you know they're people |
| 2937s | that are kind of like early um I think |
| 2939s | that in 5 10 years there's going to be a |
| 2942s | lot of people that grew up watching braw |
| 2944s | that grew up with their their family |
| 2946s | playing playing braw um so I think |
| 2948s | that's going to be like very exciting to |
| 2949s | actually watch in orts yep actually the |
| 2951s | brawl audience is getting older mhm so |
| 2954s | it's you know moving averages is |
| 2956s | difficult especially if You' have tens |
| 2958s | of millions of people playing the game |
| 2960s | but we're slowly creeping up uh which is |
| 2963s | interesting it's uh yeah like I I think |
| 2967s | I tweeted about that or posted on |
| 2969s | LinkedIn or something about this but as |
| 2972s | there's there's as a developer right |
| 2973s | there's very little that's more |
| 2975s | energetic than going to an Esports event |
| 2977s | and having hundreds if not thousands of |
| 2979s | people in the crowd being totally crazy |
| 2983s | about the game that's being played um I |
| 2986s | I mean like I really really loved WIS |
| 2989s | last year you know it was it's most not |
| 2991s | a ginormous audience also was around |
| 2994s | thousand people but but you know that we |
| 2997s | went to PC gaming event dream hack and |
| 3000s | there was a Counter-Strike tournament |
| 3001s | there there was way smaller and way less |
| 3003s | energetic that braw by the way um it's |
| 3007s | it's just super cool to see and like |
| 3009s | something and then Gamescom you know |
| 3012s | like two and half thousand seats all |
| 3014s | filled people standing people sitting on |
| 3016s | the ground people going bananas Whenever |
| 3018s | there was a cool play I think it's so |
| 3021s | cool to see and yes it's a very mixed |
| 3023s | audience but what what for us what's |
| 3026s | really really cool and you know are |
| 3029s | these wholesome moments where we see a |
| 3031s | dad or a mom with her kids watching this |
| 3033s | and in the beginning you see the parents |
| 3035s | like looking at their phone maybe you |
| 3037s | know not super engaged with the whole |
| 3038s | thing going on but eventually they look |
| 3040s | at the screens and they're staying there |
| 3042s | actually you know they're getting |
| 3043s | entertained and they see there something |
| 3046s | so it's like of Kim's dream as well |
| 3049s | think 10,000 seats and I like can we get |
| 3052s | a big Guardians I fully agree with the |
| 3055s | you need to be where where the player |
| 3057s | what the events are so it's of course |
| 3060s | like hard when there's few in-person |
| 3063s | events and it's something we would also |
| 3065s | like to change for All Star World |
| 3069s | Tour um question from iwak uh you added |
| 3073s | in streaks for win for win more easier |
| 3077s | trophies but have you thinking have you |
| 3079s | have you thought about come back to Old |
| 3081s | season reset maybe there's a lot of |
| 3084s | questions so maybe we can break down uh |
| 3086s | sure maybe I can take first part um he |
| 3089s | said that we added win streaks for |
| 3090s | easier trophies um I think just to make |
| 3093s | clear it's not easier to get high |
| 3095s | trophies you get to where you need to be |
| 3097s | quicker that's essentially what it does |
| 3099s | it doesn't inflate the top end it just |
| 3102s | makes you get there faster which I think |
| 3103s | is a good experience both for the win |
| 3106s | Streaker but also for the players you're |
| 3108s | playing against because it means like if |
| 3110s | you are not supposed to be let's say low |
| 3113s | trophies then you won't be there for |
| 3114s | long so you're not ruining games in that |
| 3116s | sense for as long um and when we talk |
| 3120s | about old season reset we're not going |
| 3122s | to do it in that way um we're never |
| 3123s | going to go back to that system I never |
| 3125s | say never but most likely not going back |
| 3127s | to that system but as Frank touched on |
| 3129s | before we do have significant plans for |
| 3131s | trophies in the future yeah uh ER |
| 3134s | thinking about let the player choose the |
| 3136s | servers they want and then he mention |
| 3138s | the the whole second question is very |
| 3140s | much about as well as about the trophy |
| 3142s | system actually yeah um no we are not |
| 3145s | planning to give people the option which |
| 3147s | servers to play on it just doesn't |
| 3150s | doesn't make sense for brawl really it |
| 3152s | would just make matchmaking way worse uh |
| 3155s | and even slower um but but again we |
| 3158s | we're working on something for the |
| 3159s | trophy system we understand that there |
| 3161s | is a problem there especially for |
| 3162s | highend players like eak it's it's like |
| 3166s | it's just not a great experience so we |
| 3168s | want to work work on that when you say |
| 3171s | it doesn't make sense for brawl you mean |
| 3172s | like as the identity of the game and |
| 3174s | perhaps for you know the greater |
| 3176s | audience not that um it would like not |
| 3179s | be a beneficial feature for some yes |
| 3182s | it's like exactly exactly it's it's more |
| 3184s | for for the larger larger audience it it |
| 3186s | really doesn't make sense eag is |
| 3188s | probably in the |
| 3190s | 0.001 000000 1% of our audience like |
| 3194s | it's like we we understand that there's |
| 3197s | just it feels almost like a different |
| 3198s | game at that point yeah but more often |
| 3201s | than not you know allowing people to you |
| 3203s | cannot just allow certain players to |
| 3205s | choose their servers |
| 3207s | um because the moment it becomes a |
| 3209s | feature people are using it and and out |
| 3212s | of our we we have quite a bit of |
| 3213s | experience with adding new server |
| 3215s | locations and and seeing the impact of |
| 3217s | latency the impact of matchmaking time |
| 3219s | on players behaviors and we know matter |
| 3222s | of fact that it's always a negative uh |
| 3225s | when when you when you make the |
| 3227s | matchmaking pool smaller mhm so so it's |
| 3230s | more like |
| 3232s | a protection mechanism for us you know |
| 3235s | we we don't think it's a good idea yeah |
| 3237s | yeah I think if if you were to ask these |
| 3239s | you know the |
| 3241s | 0.001% I think many of them would choose |
| 3244s | longer matchmaking over you know playing |
| 3246s | an EU against an A or vice versa |
| 3249s | absolutely yeah me know and we we're |
| 3251s | trying to we're have some ideas we have |
| 3254s | and and so so we'll see how that all |
| 3256s | works out but um but we'd like to find a |
| 3259s | good midle ground yep and how happy are |
| 3263s | you with the changes team power League |
| 3264s | we kind of touch on that and are you |
| 3266s | going to make people demote |
| 3268s | again H I think it's because we there is |
| 3270s | the the floors yeah the ranked floors |
| 3273s | and I feel like you try uh you you like |
| 3276s | you work you make the game for the |
| 3277s | casuals all the time so that's his |
| 3280s | concern I think that's a fair concern |
| 3282s | but I think we can go back to what Frank |
| 3284s | touched on that it's not necessarily the |
| 3285s | casuals it's the masses yeah and if you |
| 3288s | don't have the masses then there is no |
| 3290s | real competition because no one is |
| 3291s | playing that mode um but at the same |
| 3294s | time we want to make sure that the mode |
| 3296s | feels comp itive on the top end as well |
| 3298s | and I think that's where it's currently |
| 3300s | falling aad short and that's something |
| 3301s | we're looking to address yeah I think |
| 3304s | that in general like um I I was thinking |
| 3307s | of this like I think it was the first |
| 3309s | question about ranked as well where I |
| 3310s | feel like the way ranked is right now I |
| 3312s | would say the the the casuals or the |
| 3314s | masses are pretty happy for the most |
| 3316s | part I mean the metrics show that too |
| 3318s | right so many more people playing um so |
| 3320s | I think that a lot of the changes that |
| 3322s | could come and that you guys should be |
| 3324s | implemented is like are hopefully going |
| 3326s | to be focused on like that particular um |
| 3329s | you know category of people yeah |
| 3331s | absolutely yeah I think you know we see |
| 3333s | it as a win as well like the engagement |
| 3334s | rates in ranked are obviously higher so |
| 3337s | that's a that's a win but then the top |
| 3338s | end I think we don't consider a win |
| 3340s | currently because of how it functions |
| 3342s | and last question for H yeah I think |
| 3345s | there's like one element as well like we |
| 3348s | don't see this group on top as a athetic |
| 3351s | amount of people right you have a bunch |
| 3354s | of people in the middle of the game who |
| 3356s | are maybe not not as hardcore yet but |
| 3359s | but everyone starts as a |
| 3361s | noob everyone starts as a noob some |
| 3363s | people stick around long enough so that |
| 3365s | they become a regular player and that |
| 3367s | they're just like still playing for fun |
| 3369s | maybe and a portion of those people |
| 3372s | becomes the the core of our community |
| 3375s | and a part of that group will then |
| 3378s | promote to become hardcore and being in |
| 3381s | that top 1% so so what can we do from a |
| 3385s | systems perspective from from systems |
| 3387s | like ranked to help people climb that |
| 3391s | ladder like we want to have as many |
| 3393s | people as possible being as competitive |
| 3395s | as possible but it doesn't just work |
| 3399s | because we want it so we need to have |
| 3401s | systems in place that support this and |
| 3404s | again if you lose the the the masses |
| 3406s | already in in low illo place then well |
| 3410s | you know they won't pre promote higher |
| 3413s | and you won't have that competition so |
| 3414s | we this this whole funnel needs to work |
| 3417s | um and yes a part of the final works |
| 3418s | today not every part of the final works |
| 3421s | today yep and then his last question |
| 3425s | like uh thinking of like add adding |
| 3427s | specific rewards for like uh higher |
| 3431s | achievements or like uh top five or 10 |
| 3433s | in leader boards and ranked like I guess |
| 3435s | like per season something that gets |
| 3437s | permanently added and unique to that |
| 3440s | season um but yeah any |
| 3444s | plans I think it's a cool concept I |
| 3446s | guess it's just like how do you use your |
| 3449s | the resources you have in the team right |
| 3451s | cuz like that would be like aquac will |
| 3453s | have one but then it takes like an |
| 3456s | artist to do design this thing for him |
| 3459s | right where we could do something for a |
| 3461s | bigger audience I think still I don't |
| 3463s | know if in the last |
| 3465s | ranked design that Jeff presented |
| 3469s | there's something about it but I don't |
| 3471s | know I think it's a cool thing but need |
| 3472s | we need to see like the the what is it |
| 3475s | the outcome or like how much investment |
| 3477s | we put in this one feature this one |
| 3479s | unique cosmetic and what we bring back |
| 3481s | to us yeah I think that it's it's more |
| 3484s | realistic to expect things like you know |
| 3487s | when when you hit a certain rank in the |
| 3489s | leaderboard that that there's something |
| 3491s | you can show off permanently yeah like |
| 3494s | as in I'm not talking especially about a |
| 3497s | specific frame or something like that |
| 3499s | I'm talking about hey in your in your |
| 3501s | your on a forever leaderboard yeah yeah |
| 3504s | until someone is beating your score yeah |
| 3506s | yeah yeah stuff like this so so so high |
| 3508s | scores and and numbers is like I think |
| 3512s | it it it doesn't really matter if it's |
| 3515s | you know if you think of a skin as a |
| 3517s | Shore versus as a as a profile picture |
| 3520s | versus a frame versus whatever but at |
| 3523s | the end it doesn't really matter what |
| 3525s | that thing is as long as it signifies |
| 3528s | that hey look I'm on the alltime |
| 3530s | leaderboard and I'm rank two yeah you |
| 3533s | know like the we need to have ways to |
| 3536s | Express that part and that's what what |
| 3539s | what people are after for who are really |
| 3540s | really competitive anyhow yep true what |
| 3543s | would you be happy about you steady and |
| 3545s | ready like something that stays forever |
| 3548s | is it like a number or title |
| 3551s | or some kind of cosmetic that you can |
| 3553s | actually show in game yeah in a match |
| 3557s | yeah not just something that like sits |
| 3559s | on your profile like that that stuff is |
| 3560s | cool I think players when they ask for |
| 3563s | this sort of um some kind of badge to |
| 3566s | show um maybe some people have the |
| 3569s | impression that it like is going to |
| 3570s | create new content but this is something |
| 3572s | that they were already going to do |
| 3574s | anyway yeah I think placing something |
| 3576s | just Out Of Reach of what is already |
| 3578s | possible or perhaps even further |
| 3580s | creating new achievements um is is what |
| 3584s | would really satisfy the top players but |
| 3587s | even then it's only possible to reach |
| 3590s | for the very top players that said you |
| 3593s | could zoom out and look at it as a |
| 3594s | bigger picture and that well you know it |
| 3596s | doesn't get restricted to just them |
| 3598s | someone who creates content you know |
| 3600s | then that actually creates something |
| 3602s | larger than just the individual |
| 3604s | player well I think that especially when |
| 3606s | it comes to like kind of having those |
| 3607s | achievement to show on your profile and |
| 3608s | maybe some of them in game two you know |
| 3610s | on like where your Master's badge or |
| 3611s | whatever rank you are being able to see |
| 3613s | like the top how many you were last |
| 3615s | season uh something like that I think |
| 3617s | could be very uh nice and have that like |
| 3620s | Flex effect um but I think that like it |
| 3624s | is Niche but at the same time if you |
| 3626s | have like a system to kind of add value |
| 3629s | to pushing specific Brawlers total |
| 3632s | trophies ranked you know if if you get |
| 3635s | like an achievement for being top 10,000 |
| 3637s | and it just shows you know uh which |
| 3639s | number you you were in in the |
| 3641s | leaderboards well that's already 10,000 |
| 3643s | people in like 82 categories for the |
| 3646s | Brawlers plus ranked plus latter so it's |
| 3649s | not that small of a a group anymore so I |
| 3652s | feel like that could be something really |
| 3654s | nice to to yeah have that little Flex |
| 3657s | effect in your |
| 3658s | matches cool next question from flying |
| 3661s | line uh ever since Club Quest and Club |
| 3663s | League got replaced with MEAP clubs felt |
| 3665s | kind of dead because there's nothing to |
| 3668s | do for 90% of the month are there any |
| 3670s | plans to add more activities for |
| 3673s | clubs yes yes no but we do agree as well |
| 3677s | that that like Club League was not it |
| 3680s | yeah um mega pig is a decent middle |
| 3683s | ground but then again a lot of the time |
| 3685s | there's nothing to do um but we also |
| 3687s | have to realize that there are people |
| 3689s | who just like to play by themselves so |
| 3691s | we can't frontload like a lot of the |
| 3693s | stuff into the club without then hurting |
| 3695s | those players as well so there has to be |
| 3697s | a balance um currently the balance is |
| 3699s | not correct by the way um but we're |
| 3701s | working towards getting to a better and |
| 3703s | and also the solution wouldn't be just |
| 3704s | more MEAP pigs every weekend because |
| 3706s | then it will burn out exactly because |
| 3708s | that's kind of what happened with club |
| 3709s | right like it was exciting for a month |
| 3711s | two depending on who you are and then |
| 3712s | it's like oh here's the chore again that |
| 3714s | I need to do for all my rewards |
| 3717s | I think also what really drives at home |
| 3719s | is that Mega pig is accounted for in |
| 3721s | balancing the game economy so now it's |
| 3723s | really mandatory that you do it if you |
| 3725s | want to progress your account it is |
| 3727s | actually like you know look looking back |
| 3729s | from the transition we made from the old |
| 3731s | world to the new world the the mega pick |
| 3735s | is a piece of that and of course the the |
| 3739s | changes we did in braas are a piece of |
| 3741s | that so when when we int and we will |
| 3744s | introduce more things for clubs to do |
| 3746s | like it's just a matter of time just |
| 3748s | don't don't expect always these things |
| 3750s | to be huge things could be just you know |
| 3752s | another activity like the mega pick just |
| 3754s | different it could be temporary events |
| 3756s | for clubs like SpongeBob now things like |
| 3759s | that should just happen regularly and |
| 3761s | there should be fresh stuff going on for |
| 3763s | clubs again and again and again so to to |
| 3765s | really make sure that yeah once a month |
| 3767s | is just not good enough for us yeah and |
| 3769s | of course it doesn't help than than that |
| 3771s | we have a buck and then that we cannot |
| 3773s | run the MEAP pic for two month uh like |
| 3776s | like and it's happening in summer where |
| 3779s | where we are working with a smaller crew |
| 3781s | and we cannot just fix it it's super |
| 3784s | frustrating for us um so we we want more |
| 3787s | for clubs to do um but we need to be |
| 3790s | sensitive in how we're doing this as |
| 3791s | well because like everything we do there |
| 3794s | additive to the current |
| 3797s | economy yeah and I think like uh the |
| 3799s | goals of like Mega Pig was like we want |
| 3802s | more people to be in clubs and we want |
| 3804s | the people to be in clubs to play the |
| 3806s | mors like the club engaging with events |
| 3808s | and then we achieve this goal but then |
| 3810s | uh and I I think we achiev by maybe |
| 3812s | doubly what double of what we wanted uh |
| 3815s | but then it creates a different problem |
| 3817s | which is like okay so that there is only |
| 3819s | that the reward doesn't feel uh enough |
| 3821s | for then so I think uh it it gets like |
| 3824s | killed in a priority list right like is |
| 3827s | it like our top priority probably not |
| 3829s | like probably Mega pig is not on the top |
| 3830s | priority like I think uh that the thing |
| 3833s | you want to do like or the system that |
| 3834s | is closest to be done is like the trophy |
| 3837s | reset because it's something that it |
| 3839s | just hurts when it happens nobody |
| 3842s | understands how it works they get bad |
| 3844s | rewards it's like if you if you compare |
| 3847s | those things right Mega pig or trophy |
| 3849s | resette I think trophy resette is more |
| 3850s | important that's why you want to change |
| 3852s | this first so I think Mega pig in the uh |
| 3855s | set of priorities I wouldn't even put it |
| 3857s | below ranked because I think it's a |
| 3859s | ranked is more important as a lot of |
| 3862s | Pros are concerned and we also make want |
| 3864s | to make it more fun for casuals yeah so |
| 3868s | just to set like some expectations on |
| 3870s | when you can see some changes and for |
| 3872s | the record we're not planning to change |
| 3873s | Mega P Mega pick feature will stay yeah |
| 3876s | be more like we we thinking of what |
| 3878s | other things could we do for clubs yeah |
| 3880s | so like yeah Y and then the second |
| 3884s | question it's been more than a year |
| 3885s | since you promised to update the older |
| 3887s | skins to bring them up to the current |
| 3889s | standards uh but the progress on this |
| 3892s | has been very slow and there are still a |
| 3894s | lot of SKS that just feel awful to get |
| 3897s | from legendary star drops what are your |
| 3899s | thoughts on |
| 3902s | this well |
| 3904s | everybody said cry yeah hey we just |
| 3907s | buffed the worst skin in the game Frank |
| 3910s | oh yeah true true true on so like like |
| 3912s | it's uh yeah it's it's a deliberate |
| 3915s | Choice yeah it's it's a deliberate |
| 3917s | choice because we have X time and we are |
| 3921s | we're working on Old skins piece by |
| 3924s | piece um yeah when and it's not you know |
| 3928s | we cannot give you a timeline when |
| 3929s | things will happen because it really |
| 3930s | matters a lot about you know how much |
| 3933s | time do we have left besides the other |
| 3935s | stuff we're doing and uh yeah I think |
| 3938s | the worst offenders are done I know that |
| 3940s | some people I agreed I I I do it's very |
| 3942s | subjective right yeah super subjective I |
| 3944s | I know that you know some people don't |
| 3947s | like grea Motes oh okay it's not a |
| 3950s | fleshy skin for some people some people |
| 3952s | love it it's like you and even if we're |
| 3954s | going when we're going back to old |
| 3956s | models like the Brock model was |
| 3959s | somewhat uh controverse topic I mean |
| 3962s | like we address but we address it now as |
| 3963s | well yes it's uh yeah it's like we're |
| 3967s | still committed committed to doing this |
| 3969s | when we we actually reworking all models |
| 3972s | in general from Brawlers REM you know |
| 3974s | looking at Old skins which are really |
| 3976s | like not our quality standard anymore um |
| 3980s | it's it's just not it's a it's a |
| 3981s | secondary task for our team and we we're |
| 3984s | doing it when we have time and no |
| 3986s | specific timeline there yeah a l |
| 3988s | priority of course like when it makes |
| 3990s | sense so like Frank got a rework right |
| 3992s | so it made sense to actually got their |
| 3994s | skins and try to remodel cuz then we |
| 3996s | take this as an opportunity to actually |
| 3997s | highlight those otherwise it could be |
| 3999s | like hey we rework this SK and then |
| 4001s | nobody care because like there is it's |
| 4003s | already an old skin right but yeah like |
| 4006s | trying to make the best out of the |
| 4008s | changes uh question from kator these are |
| 4011s | my questions uh there are there is going |
| 4014s | to be super s make |
| 4016s | that we can design on hypercharge schin |
| 4019s | that would be really cool I think yeah |
| 4022s | yeah just that sounds like a really cool |
| 4023s | idea yeah just need to talk to the AR |
| 4025s | team yeah yeah it's more work for the |
| 4028s | artist but I guess they they are happy |
| 4030s | with that uh and can you do a challenge |
| 4032s | to get a brw for free |
| 4034s | again it's an interesting |
| 4037s | topic it's like like |
| 4040s | uh yeah I think Danny you have a good |
| 4042s | answer for that in General on on the |
| 4044s | topic maybe to give some some cont text |
| 4046s | yes uh so so like on the course of the |
| 4050s | years we've done free browers in |
| 4052s | different ways right we released Edgar |
| 4054s | which was like free on the day and |
| 4055s | actually he crashed the server for eight |
| 4057s | or 10 hours I don't know that was a long |
| 4059s | day or like eight eight days that's how |
| 4062s | it felt at least yeah that's how it felt |
| 4065s | yeah and then we try like okay so like |
| 4067s | maybe that was a bad idea because it was |
| 4068s | much everyone was playing edar at the |
| 4071s | same time so they let's try to do a |
| 4072s | challenge and then I think we did for |
| 4074s | grief uh and then it didn't have the |
| 4077s | impact we wanted cuz like when we |
| 4079s | released Edgar like people were crazy |
| 4081s | like people I think it was one of our |
| 4083s | highest du days back yeah yeah back in |
| 4085s | the day um and actually they stay so |
| 4089s | they were playing Edgar and they were |
| 4090s | excited about it so the results were |
| 4092s | amazing and they're still playing Edgar |
| 4094s | they are still playing Edgar never reced |
| 4096s | only Edgar but then in Spain for four |
| 4100s | years when we did grief it didn't have |
| 4103s | any meaningful results right so like it |
| 4105s | the delivery of the content also affects |
| 4108s | the performance of the game uh and then |
| 4110s | we try differently so maybe challenge is |
| 4112s | like it's too Niche let's try Quest and |
| 4115s | then we did gray uh during the Christmas |
| 4117s | time um and then also didn't bring a lot |
| 4120s | of results and people some people are |
| 4122s | even unaware you could actually unlock |
| 4124s | the brawler for fre through Quest |
| 4127s | so for challenge probably not because it |
| 4131s | doesn't bring anything back to us it's |
| 4133s | just we're giving like a free stuffff |
| 4134s | and then like when when we do something |
| 4136s | for free we want at least like players |
| 4139s | playing the game like being engaged or |
| 4140s | like broadcasting this thing everywhere |
| 4143s | like if we do this like we give out like |
| 4146s | because imagine that a brother for free |
| 4149s | it costs some money because you are |
| 4151s | giving this value of this item away |
| 4153s | right um so we want to at least get the |
| 4156s | engagement back so yeah I guess like |
| 4159s | maybe new ways |
| 4160s | to to release free stuff yeah we can try |
| 4164s | but probably not challenged challenge |
| 4166s | maybe not their way I think once upon a |
| 4168s | time you could in theory get every |
| 4171s | brawler for free right if you stack your |
| 4173s | boxes appropriately but the systems |
| 4175s | changed now and you had some thoughts on |
| 4177s | this we discussed earlier about how now |
| 4181s | seems like every new brawler releases uh |
| 4183s | through a value pack and it'll stay that |
| 4186s | way for two weeks so a new brawler comes |
| 4187s | out for someone that isn't really one |
| 4190s | week one week okay cool sorry my bad he |
| 4193s | buys them instantly anyway yeah this is |
| 4194s | true so so I have no perspective on |
| 4198s | this but but you know new brawler comes |
| 4201s | out it's supposed to be very exciting |
| 4203s | but if you're not willing to make the |
| 4206s | inapp purchase then you don't get to |
| 4208s | engage with that release yeah um this |
| 4212s | this has been kind of one of my |
| 4213s | complaints about like monetization I I |
| 4216s | guess uh is I'm really not a fan of the |
| 4218s | value pack uh I I feel I get the point |
| 4221s | of it like I'll start with the positives |
| 4223s | uh because I'm aware of the fact that |
| 4225s | you know stops the servers from dying |
| 4228s | and everyone playing the same brawler |
| 4229s | and matchmaking is terrible so I I I do |
| 4232s | see the benefits there but personally |
| 4235s | like I don't buy them and then I kind of |
| 4237s | lose the hype for the new brawler by the |
| 4239s | time I unlock it so like I mean I |
| 4241s | unlocked Mo and I played like three |
| 4242s | games with it so far because I wasn't as |
| 4245s | excited and I used to remember like |
| 4246s | years ago when everyone would kind of be |
| 4248s | able to get the Brawl on the same day it |
| 4250s | would be super hype it would be like oh |
| 4252s | raise to rank 35 and seeing like uh how |
| 4255s | how strong it is and it felt kind of |
| 4257s | like being a part of an event in a way |
| 4259s | um which is a feeling that I completely |
| 4261s | lost now and I don't know I think it's |
| 4264s | kind of sad that I'm not like as excited |
| 4266s | anymore about new |
| 4267s | Brawlers we we cannot really see that in |
| 4270s | the numbers um I like I I can totally |
| 4274s | see that as an individual that it might |
| 4275s | feel like that but from from just |
| 4278s | looking at you know engagement numbers |
| 4280s | looking on the player who come in on |
| 4282s | that day |
| 4283s | Etc um it it doesn't look like like |
| 4286s | that's largely the sentiment at least |
| 4288s | for us like was a gentle way of |
| 4290s | introducing more monetization make |
| 4292s | things more sustainable without adding |
| 4294s | more power or without adding power 12 or |
| 4297s | something like this it's like just just |
| 4299s | trying to become creative with what we |
| 4301s | have already giving a small benefit for |
| 4303s | payers which is that weak Early Access |
| 4306s | um without you know changing something |
| 4310s | permanently about the power in the game |
| 4313s | um yeah I think that's it it's not going |
| 4316s | to go anywhere it's it's just it's it's |
| 4319s | working really well for what it is I'm |
| 4321s | afraid and I think that's fair but I |
| 4323s | also want to give another perspective I |
| 4325s | think from uh balancing side for example |
| 4327s | because you know there's always the meme |
| 4328s | that oh no new roller it's op so forth |
| 4331s | but the Early Access for example period |
| 4333s | is is a really good way for us to also |
| 4336s | see is that statement true or not |
| 4339s | because like if we release it to |
| 4340s | everyone at the same time like you know |
| 4342s | if everyone get the brawler day one then |
| 4344s | let's say it waks Havoc or it's let's |
| 4345s | say it's worse like it scratches the |
| 4347s | game we've seen that with Gene for |
| 4349s | example then that's a much larger impact |
| 4352s | for the player base right and then we |
| 4354s | don't have the same amount of time to |
| 4356s | rectify that before everyone gets their |
| 4358s | hands on it so there is other positives |
| 4360s | than maybe just looking at the monetary |
| 4362s | aspect as well yeah and I think like uh |
| 4364s | it's a balance like I'm I'm not happy |
| 4367s | that you are sad with the new format |
| 4369s | right need for the record but like it's |
| 4372s | the sacrifice we have to make because |
| 4374s | like how sad are you are like are you |
| 4377s | really yeah are you like overall |
| 4381s | yeah because if it's like you can wait a |
| 4384s | week right we we think it's a fair |
| 4385s | exchange that a player can wait a week |
| 4387s | to have the brw for free and we also |
| 4389s | released that before the season so every |
| 4391s | credit that he has it turns uh it gets |
| 4394s | into the new brawler if that that's the |
| 4396s | only brawler that they have left so we |
| 4398s | feel like yeah there is a a balance we |
| 4400s | can do maybe like if you would like to |
| 4402s | make this lighter would be like maybe |
| 4403s | the amount of days would be like like |
| 4405s | four days that is in the value pack or |
| 4408s | something like that but then like it's |
| 4410s | also hard to communicate like one week |
| 4412s | is really clear right one week sounds |
| 4414s | like clean but I I think that for me |
| 4416s | like the only issue I have with it cuz I |
| 4418s | love the idea of the value right of |
| 4420s | having like this is a great deal to buy |
| 4423s | and you get tons of like progression and |
| 4424s | and I think there's a skin as well yeah |
| 4427s | get all the P all Cosmetics the some |
| 4429s | progression I love that you should try |
| 4432s | it you can use your own code I love that |
| 4435s | my own issue is just like the week which |
| 4437s | feels like long and I also feel like I |
| 4439s | build up a negative bond with that |
| 4442s | brawler because usually they're pretty |
| 4445s | strong and I also get why they have to |
| 4446s | be strong especially if the only way to |
| 4449s | get them is like you know credit card um |
| 4452s | but then I feel like I kind of hate that |
| 4455s | brother because for a week every time I |
| 4456s | face it like I don't it's not an |
| 4458s | enjoyable time you know so I I feel like |
| 4461s | once it's released yes part of me is |
| 4463s | excited to try it and like inflict the |
| 4465s | pain that I've been that I've been |
| 4467s | receiving but part of me is also like |
| 4470s | yeah just has that negative association |
| 4472s | to a brawler which I feel like wouldn't |
| 4473s | be as strong if I was able to also play |
| 4476s | it when other people are if that makes |
| 4479s | any sense and just I want to I want to |
| 4481s | touch on that really quick the op part |
| 4484s | or whatever |
| 4486s | because I want to say it very clearly we |
| 4488s | don't make op Brawlers on purpose I've |
| 4490s | said this many times but if if we don't |
| 4494s | make them strong enough |
| 4496s | then people forget them basically by |
| 4497s | default and they can never recover so I |
| 4499s | I made this example a few times but if |
| 4500s | you look at Doug if you look at let's |
| 4502s | say Willow they still haven't recovered |
| 4504s | we've buffed them lots of times and |
| 4506s | they're still not super strong don't get |
| 4508s | me wrong but Willow for example she's in |
| 4509s | a really good spot win ratewise but |
| 4512s | she's not popular because she never |
| 4514s | recovered after the weak kind of launch |
| 4516s | that she had um so we don't want to |
| 4518s | repeat that mistake because there is no |
| 4520s | worst feeling like you're really looking |
| 4521s | forward to a brawler everything looks |
| 4523s | cool you play a brawler and it's super |
| 4525s | weak and you're |
| 4527s | like that's not cool you know that's the |
| 4529s | worst I completely agree with that by |
| 4531s | way like I think new BR should be strong |
| 4533s | no you know I think the the strongest |
| 4534s | depends on on who's playing them as well |
| 4537s | get very like snowb at times but I |
| 4540s | completely agree with that like and when |
| 4542s | we change this format a bit like |
| 4544s | actually ready I don't know if you've |
| 4545s | been also in play test but like we've |
| 4546s | been testing uh with creators before it |
| 4549s | goes live uh and then like if many I |
| 4552s | think all the times we actually nerve or |
| 4555s | like both |
| 4556s | the brawler because we get his feedbacks |
| 4558s | like we try not to have ai and |
| 4560s | Lori effect ever again and even like |
| 4563s | other Brawlers that have been released |
| 4564s | after that they are on the stronger side |
| 4567s | uh they they don't feel like I can't |
| 4569s | beat this brawler any counter or |
| 4572s | anything right yeah I think that it's |
| 4573s | about you need you need to feel like |
| 4575s | there is some fairness involved like you |
| 4577s | you can't feel like Larry and Lori where |
| 4579s | oh it doesn't matter what I play where I |
| 4580s | an assessing can yeah it's like yeah you |
| 4584s | know so there needs to be a sense oh I |
| 4586s | can beat this brawler if I play this or |
| 4588s | if I play better or so forth |
| 4590s | so it's |
| 4592s | um to to go to go back to the original |
| 4596s | question again it's it's the you know |
| 4600s | when we when we change to the whole Star |
| 4602s | Road system and everything like one of |
| 4605s | our ambition was that like some in |
| 4607s | average people had less than one |
| 4608s | legendary back then people tend to |
| 4611s | forget this uh and now people are |
| 4614s | actually unlocking the broad that want |
| 4617s | the if you're free to play or if you |
| 4618s | don't want to spend that much money you |
| 4620s | will unlock Brawlers |
| 4622s | slower but it's not like you cannot |
| 4624s | unlock the Brawlers you want especially |
| 4627s | that on on the day when you know the |
| 4629s | Early Access offer runs out we make the |
| 4632s | brawler |
| 4633s | available to everyone they can switch |
| 4635s | their credits to it and as a consequence |
| 4637s | today we see people in general unlock |
| 4640s | Brawlers faster than ever before and |
| 4643s | also on that day one more people get |
| 4646s | access to the new brawler more than |
| 4648s | before even free to playay players so so |
| 4651s | I think like |
| 4653s | this the the the main decision free |
| 4655s | to-play players have to make is you know |
| 4658s | which brawler do I want to unlock but |
| 4661s | then if you really want Kenji you know |
| 4663s | you just can save your credits and and |
| 4666s | of course |
| 4668s | like yeah and that's a behavior we see |
| 4671s | like so so we just see more people |
| 4673s | unlocking new Brawlers faster than |
| 4675s | before |
| 4676s | and more people unlock more Brawlers in |
| 4677s | general than before which is really |
| 4680s | healthy for the game I think because |
| 4681s | then the wider the pool you have of |
| 4683s | brawlers the more likely you find |
| 4684s | something you really like to play so |
| 4687s | it's a it's a overall it's a positive |
| 4689s | change even though again individual |
| 4691s | mileage might |
| 4693s | vary cool uh great segue about balancing |
| 4697s | the next questions like M tro uh what |
| 4701s | are your plans with the balance there |
| 4703s | are still several unbalanced brers for |
| 4705s | example Piper who didn't get enough |
| 4706s | right nerve yet or even Dynamite or Lely |
| 4710s | with their Gadget uh and the situation |
| 4712s | might turn worse when more new when new |
| 4715s | brers come yeah no I think this is a |
| 4717s | fair concern um I don't think the |
| 4719s | examples are correct though but that's |
| 4720s | that's setic maybe Lily yeah so Lily |
| 4723s | Lily is fine I think that's absolutely |
| 4725s | on point I think the gadget is not |
| 4727s | healthy uh I I have a plan for it we |
| 4729s | didn't manage this update um but we want |
| 4731s | to do it in the future um Piper is |
| 4734s | actually on the negative side on win |
| 4735s | rate so Piper is weaker than the average |
| 4737s | brawler currently um and dynamite is |
| 4740s | also I think Dynamite is actually nearly |
| 4742s | exactly 50% win rate wow as as of this |
| 4745s | moment good job |
| 4747s | Adrian but regardless I do agree that |
| 4750s | the that the stun Gadget that I'm |
| 4752s | assuming he's talking about does not |
| 4753s | feel good to be on the receiving end of |
| 4755s | right like I think that's the problem |
| 4757s | with both L and Dynamax gadgets |
| 4759s | especially is the feeling that something |
| 4760s | do this like oh I couldn't have done |
| 4762s | anything um and that we want to move |
| 4764s | away from um so the dynamic one it's |
| 4767s | also like it's in in in real like I |
| 4770s | think we should have some stats |
| 4771s | somewhere half often that's actually hit |
| 4773s | yeah it's not how often is someone |
| 4774s | actually getting stunned after it's |
| 4776s | being used because like you know you can |
| 4778s | bait it you can wait it out you can just |
| 4781s | dodge it do yeah well you can dodge it |
| 4783s | of course but it's like I actually |
| 4786s | wonder how many times this gadget is |
| 4788s | activated and how many times someone is |
| 4790s | stunned afterward yeah you're right but |
| 4791s | but I I I I don't even think that's the |
| 4793s | issue I think it's when you do get |
| 4795s | stunned you forget all the times that |
| 4797s | you've dodged it or not get it because |
| 4799s | that feels so bad get good um so yeah |
| 4801s | that |
| 4803s | is um but yeah it's yes we're looking |
| 4807s | into um balancing the things that feel |
| 4809s | unfair let's put it that |
| 4812s | way and then ah so like we finished with |
| 4815s | the Twitter question so now we I we we |
| 4818s | open to ready and Teddy questions all |
| 4821s | right I guess I'll go first first |
| 4824s | question comes from someone that replied |
| 4826s | to me on Twitter when I asked you know |
| 4828s | do you guys have any questions that I |
| 4830s | should ask on your behalf and the first |
| 4832s | question is why are so many people |
| 4835s | getting hacked |
| 4836s | lately yeah it's like uh I've been |
| 4839s | answering like some of the creators |
| 4840s | because also they are discussing these |
| 4842s | as well it's like our audience is pretty |
| 4845s | young so like uh if someone wants to |
| 4849s | give you free gems it's probably a trap |
| 4852s | like I would say 100% of the times it's |
| 4854s | a trap it's like don't give personal |
| 4856s | information and I think uh our audience |
| 4859s | is like young enough that like they are |
| 4861s | not super internet Savvy like they're |
| 4863s | like we've all been like learning like |
| 4865s | don't tap on those weird uh links don't |
| 4868s | talk to strangers or anything for them |
| 4870s | it's a na thing and like no security |
| 4873s | system in the world would prevent if you |
| 4875s | give your personal information to the |
| 4877s | scammer right so there is one thing then |
| 4879s | bra bra blowing up I think like bra |
| 4882s | being like on the top of the charts and |
| 4884s | everything it becomes a target for |
| 4886s | hackers and scummers and everything um |
| 4889s | and I was even talking to a scummer |
| 4891s | trying to understand like why are you |
| 4892s | doing that and then he he said like for |
| 4895s | monetary uh reasons so like as a source |
| 4898s | of um money or whatever so like you can |
| 4902s | see that like there's many reason like |
| 4904s | you can be like you are proud of like |
| 4906s | stealing an account you are like you |
| 4908s | making money out of that it's like we |
| 4911s | would like to take the opportunity here |
| 4912s | to maybe educate everyone to like don't |
| 4917s | don't share personal information with |
| 4918s | you like we supercell will never ask you |
| 4921s | for this information um and then uh if |
| 4925s | something feels too good to be true it's |
| 4928s | probably a scam um and yeah and if you |
| 4932s | don't do those things your account is |
| 4934s | pretty much safe like if you don't give |
| 4936s | personal information or if you don't |
| 4938s | don't tap on |
| 4939s | links that you see out there I would |
| 4942s | also say you know for for those watching |
| 4944s | hello |
| 4945s | don't screen share with your |
| 4947s | notifications on on Discord um if |
| 4950s | someone knows your email for your |
| 4951s | account then they can you know try and |
| 4952s | log in and it will send you a code and |
| 4954s | then they could use that code to log in |
| 4956s | yeah don't share anyone your email that |
| 4958s | you use to make your account that code |
| 4960s | that you receive in the email is not |
| 4961s | used for anything except for logging in |
| 4964s | and making changes to your account like |
| 4966s | changing your email it's not used for |
| 4968s | the supercell store to accept a gift of |
| 4970s | gems or a brawl pass which a lot of |
| 4973s | people fall for even you know |
| 4975s | experienced people who've been around |
| 4976s | the game for a while yeah and don't |
| 4979s | share any information that could be used |
| 4981s | to identify you as the owner of the |
| 4983s | account because then that can be used to |
| 4986s | trick the support system yeah and I |
| 4989s | think also uh we know this is the |
| 4991s | problem of course and we are working on |
| 4993s | like better tools and better processes |
| 4995s | to actually for the user to recover the |
| 4997s | account by themselves well well you're |
| 5000s | working on tools where you know when a |
| 5002s | player loses their account to actually |
| 5005s | turn that back to their hands recovery |
| 5007s | essentially yeah yeah and then more uh |
| 5010s | giving more information to the player |
| 5011s | right so if someone log into your |
| 5013s | account then you get a notification that |
| 5015s | this is happening so you're working on |
| 5016s | lot a lot of tools to like help the |
| 5018s | player to help themselves yeah uh I |
| 5022s | remember what I was going to say and I |
| 5024s | think like the best form of education is |
| 5026s | getting screwed once right like once you |
| 5029s | get that and then you are able to |
| 5031s | recover you will never do this mistake |
| 5032s | again but our current process it is that |
| 5035s | you you get screw once it's probably |
| 5037s | pretty much you lost your account so |
| 5038s | that's what we're trying to revert and |
| 5040s | we know it's a common problem we have |
| 5041s | now |
| 5043s | yeah there's also like behind the scenes |
| 5047s | we're trying to make things |
| 5049s | safer um but of course there will always |
| 5052s | be ways if you if you share your account |
| 5055s | information there there's again there's |
| 5058s | there's it's impossible for us to do |
| 5060s | anything because like you can you know |
| 5064s | use Leverage with any existing system |
| 5067s | but but there's some ways for us to make |
| 5069s | it maybe a bit clearer also for the |
| 5071s | players what they're doing yeah and |
| 5073s | we're looking into option I don't want |
| 5074s | to disclose too much because of course |
| 5076s | that makes it also easier for uh |
| 5079s | malicious actors to to do something but |
| 5082s | behind the scenes we're also working on |
| 5084s | other things and yes account recovery |
| 5086s | should be better and could be better but |
| 5088s | again a lot of the you know slow wa low |
| 5091s | don't don't expect when you write a |
| 5092s | ticket to support that they come back to |
| 5094s | you within an hour |
| 5095s | it's not going to happen response time |
| 5097s | can be 2448 72 hours and that is just |
| 5101s | again a function of us blowing up when |
| 5103s | it comes to to audience and then |
| 5106s | especially whenever something big is |
| 5108s | happening in the game expect that |
| 5110s | there's a spike of incoming tickets yeah |
| 5112s | uh for our customer service team and so |
| 5115s | and customer services again is one of |
| 5117s | these things that they don't just scale |
| 5119s | because we want so you know it takes |
| 5121s | time to train new people it's a slow |
| 5123s | process so we're working on all of that |
| 5126s | to make it better yep should I ask some |
| 5129s | question uh well I have questions that |
| 5131s | are like entirely mind some I took |
| 5133s | inspiration and won't credit people |
| 5135s | sorry uh and somewhere like I straight |
| 5137s | up just copied a question so this is a |
| 5138s | question from zero on Twitter um they |
| 5141s | are asking if there are any plans to |
| 5142s | have more hyperchargers like surge where |
| 5144s | it's the main attack that actually is |
| 5147s | influenced because every other Brer as |
| 5149s | far as I know it's really just a super |
| 5150s | and then the stat buff yeah so maybe I |
| 5153s | can talk a little bit I think I talk |
| 5154s | well I'll talk about it just to make |
| 5155s | sure so our kind of design pillars when |
| 5158s | we make hyper charges is that your super |
| 5160s | needs to behave in the same way as your |
| 5163s | normal super plus something else in |
| 5165s | Serge's case your super actually does |
| 5167s | enhance your main attack right that's |
| 5169s | that's kind of why we were able to do |
| 5171s | that with surge and I think that's the |
| 5172s | cool part but um it doesn't mean we can |
| 5175s | do it for other Brawlers but our pillars |
| 5177s | for now have been okay you're super and |
| 5179s | then something um so there is other |
| 5182s | opportunities for example a new button |
| 5184s | what |
| 5186s | what yeah for example but yes there is |
| 5189s | there is opportunities um and I have |
| 5192s | some ideas on some Basics that could be |
| 5194s | cool to alter um but search was the |
| 5196s | natural first thing because he had it in |
| 5197s | his kit to begin with that's kind of |
| 5200s | what I thought as well and it actually |
| 5202s | makes sense cuz you know yeah his shot |
| 5205s | only splits because of his super |
| 5207s | MH okay my next question is for me oh I |
| 5213s | want to know what is is the point of |
| 5215s | braw orts from your perspective I think |
| 5218s | a common theme of this podcast has been |
| 5222s | explaining to people that a lot of |
| 5224s | decisions made on this team most of them |
| 5228s | um are from a business standpoint |
| 5230s | because this is a business of course we |
| 5233s | wish to entertain people however this is |
| 5235s | a |
| 5236s | business how does that influence Broly |
| 5240s | Sports I think Esports are famously uh a |
| 5242s | money pit not profitable |
| 5245s | so what role does braw orts fill for the |
| 5249s | game |
| 5250s | overall I think in in general right |
| 5254s | Esports like let's let's start with the |
| 5257s | obious Esports today in bro doesn't make |
| 5260s | money |
| 5262s | yay you got to press the button |
| 5267s | um it's it's uh |
| 5270s | got and there are more efficient ways of |
| 5272s | losing money yeah |
| 5275s | invest in |
| 5277s | no it's um it's it's one of these things |
| 5280s | where I think a lot of companies try to |
| 5283s | make Esports profitable like r games uh |
| 5288s | Activision Blizzard you know when with a |
| 5290s | OverWatch League I I think they're |
| 5292s | really big plans but but none of that |
| 5295s | really worked so so as far as we know |
| 5299s | you know none of the big players has a |
| 5301s | profitable Esports business so so for |
| 5305s | companies like Riot games it's a |
| 5307s | marketing tool and that's pretty much |
| 5308s | all the marketing they do there's very |
| 5310s | little other marketing they do and and |
| 5312s | for them it's just that was their way of |
| 5314s | reaching more people and and that's cool |
| 5317s | that works when you have a very hardcore |
| 5319s | game when when you have a midcore game |
| 5321s | like brawl stars that that is not |
| 5324s | necessarily how it works however that |
| 5326s | doesn't mean we don't have the ambition |
| 5328s | to make brawl Esports at least you know |
| 5331s | pay for itself that would be great and I |
| 5335s | think like this year for example our |
| 5336s | collaboration with the SPs was a step in |
| 5339s | that direction actually so even though |
| 5341s | you know we had less money to work with |
| 5343s | can can we find ways to to have |
| 5346s | something that is somewhat more |
| 5349s | reasonable when it comes to |
| 5351s | cost |
| 5353s | um so now that doesn't necessarily |
| 5355s | answer your question of why we're doing |
| 5356s | it we we do believe that there's a a |
| 5359s | group of our audience really likes to |
| 5363s | watch competitive Brad |
| 5365s | Esports and or competitive brawl play in |
| 5367s | general not even Esports for them it's |
| 5369s | really interesting because they they |
| 5371s | look at that and they learn something |
| 5372s | they get better as players they they get |
| 5375s | more engaged with a game so it's a it's |
| 5377s | like targeting a very specific segment |
| 5380s | of our players in the hope that you know |
| 5383s | they will learn something they will |
| 5384s | enjoy it they will become more sticky |
| 5386s | and stick around with the game for |
| 5388s | longer um we don't have any hopes to get |
| 5393s | new users which never played brawl into |
| 5395s | braw Esports even though that would be |
| 5397s | nice if we could achieve that but of |
| 5400s | course |
| 5401s | like at the end of the day it is a |
| 5404s | marketing tool it is a marketing tool |
| 5406s | for us to engage our very engaged |
| 5409s | players out there and and that that has |
| 5413s | value but in a perfect world we we would |
| 5416s | be able to do more with this we would be |
| 5418s | you know like of course profitability |
| 5420s | would be great then we could do even |
| 5422s | more brw e Sports and we will probably |
| 5425s | experiment in the future with other |
| 5426s | formats you know other you know should |
| 5428s | we have sponsors in the game should we |
| 5430s | should we you know in real life events |
| 5433s | we've been very cautious with selling |
| 5435s | anything at events but should we you |
| 5438s | know do have merch when whenever you go |
| 5441s | to an in-person event people are like |
| 5442s | hey can I buy some brawl merch you know |
| 5446s | so I guess we're looking into ways of |
| 5448s | making that happen everyone in the team |
| 5450s | believes in Esports we really like |
| 5452s | watching competitive play but that's of |
| 5454s | course not good enough of a business |
| 5455s | rational to do it we we do believe that |
| 5458s | there's an angle of that this is helping |
| 5460s | us with our strategy for |
| 5462s | retaining hardcore players in the game |
| 5466s | um was a future hardcore players and |
| 5468s | then it might also be part of our |
| 5470s | regional strategies sometimes you know |
| 5472s | for example in Japan one of the angles |
| 5476s | for broads is Competitive Gaming much |
| 5478s | more than in any other region by the way |
| 5480s | that's why we also see some of the most |
| 5482s | competitive teams in the world being |
| 5484s | Japan teams in the US competitive play |
| 5487s | matters more than in |
| 5489s | Europe so so it might be part of our |
| 5491s | Market strategy when we say hey we want |
| 5493s | to win a certain Market is Esports a |
| 5497s | part of that play can it help us make |
| 5500s | the game feel big and interesting and |
| 5503s | eventful also a little bit kind of going |
| 5507s | deeper into that I think it's also |
| 5508s | really cool for some players that are |
| 5510s | not yet you know really good at the game |
| 5511s | or stuff they're really interested and |
| 5513s | they see esport |
| 5514s | and they see the way or the path to orts |
| 5517s | because I think that's something unique |
| 5518s | in braw as well it's pretty linear like |
| 5520s | you have the in-game event for example |
| 5522s | and I think that's a really cool way |
| 5523s | like I could be there like that feeling |
| 5525s | is really powerful right like if I'm |
| 5527s | good enough I can be there and and |
| 5529s | that's a big thing for for a significant |
| 5531s | amount of players I think as |
| 5533s | well are you happy with that I'm I'm |
| 5536s | very satisfied well because previously I |
| 5538s | wasn't really sure what role Broly |
| 5540s | Sports filled and everything given that |
| 5543s | it appeals to very specific genre of |
| 5547s | players and we often hear the rationale |
| 5549s | of well you know this wouldn't make |
| 5551s | sense for us to dedicate um our |
| 5553s | resources to because it is so Niche |
| 5557s | MH to kind of like touch up on the |
| 5560s | Esports conversation especially since |
| 5562s | Frank you already mentioned Kim so like |
| 5564s | Mr brw Esports uh one of his main goals |
| 5567s | or dreams is getting like 10,000 people |
| 5569s | in the audience uh do you guys have like |
| 5572s | personal like a personal wish list or |
| 5574s | any you know items in there that you |
| 5576s | would like to to see happening to orts |
| 5580s | yeah I think uh for me like I would like |
| 5582s | to see BR Esports as part of like a |
| 5586s | broader uh BR event CU now it's very |
| 5589s | Niche like when there's a brow event is |
| 5591s | the sports related I would really love |
| 5593s | to like brand everything brow stars and |
| 5596s | then there is a event there is a part of |
| 5598s | the event and I think uh yeah and I see |
| 5601s | like it as um as a great marketing tool |
| 5604s | because like having the best players in |
| 5605s | the world playing live for you it is a |
| 5608s | cool thing to have in every event we |
| 5610s | have right so I think what I would like |
| 5611s | to see is an event that not only bring |
| 5614s | the best players in the world but also |
| 5616s | bring like the BR Universe to this event |
| 5618s | so basically that's it for me I think |
| 5621s | one of the coolest things and I I take |
| 5623s | this from my personal kind of |
| 5624s | experiences is is having players for |
| 5627s | example that no longer play the game but |
| 5629s | still follow Esports so like for example |
| 5632s | when I played league and then I stopped |
| 5633s | having the time to play but I I was |
| 5635s | still interested in orts and I think |
| 5637s | that's a really like that's a in my mind |
| 5639s | like nearly ultimate fandom like you you |
| 5641s | still want to experience the game you |
| 5642s | still want to feel that feeling but you |
| 5644s | just don't for example for one reason or |
| 5646s | another you can't play anymore or you |
| 5647s | have a break from the game or whatever |
| 5649s | but you're still interested I think |
| 5650s | that's really |
| 5652s | cool for you Frank yeah it's |
| 5658s | a there's the pretty boring answer which |
| 5660s | is like I would love to be in a place |
| 5663s | that we could invest even more in rolly |
| 5666s | Sports because it's it's either like |
| 5669s | profitable or at least Break Even |
| 5671s | because then you know like I think it |
| 5673s | would give many people in our ecosystem |
| 5676s | like career opportunities at the end of |
| 5678s | the day the the the players the the |
| 5680s | talent I think that would be amazing and |
| 5683s | if if it can help us to achieve some of |
| 5685s | our strategical goals especially when |
| 5687s | you think about um Geo expansion and and |
| 5691s | stuff like we of course we are Global |
| 5692s | game already so we cannot expand in the |
| 5695s | sense of hey the moon planets like not |
| 5699s | yet not yet at least |
| 5702s | um but but we're not big everywhere |
| 5705s | we're a pretty Global game actually |
| 5706s | we're pretty Global there's not many |
| 5708s | games that are big in Japan Korea the US |
| 5711s | Europe and South America but but I I do |
| 5715s | believe that there's generally more |
| 5716s | space for braw to grow and I think |
| 5719s | Esports could be one angle in some |
| 5720s | markets at least in other markets not |
| 5723s | relevant but but but in some markets |
| 5725s | there is space for this so so I I just |
| 5728s | can't help but one now you know how much |
| 5730s | more can we can we use Esports as a on |
| 5734s | one side as as a tool for us to help |
| 5737s | keep braw growing in some markets while |
| 5739s | making it more sustainable for everyone |
| 5741s | involved so that would be great so and |
| 5744s | and Danny's point is a great one like |
| 5747s | should you know every when when we have |
| 5749s | a brw BC season in a month should that |
| 5754s | be themed around the update we have that |
| 5757s | month should it be you know can can we |
| 5760s | integrate both things more with each |
| 5762s | other and then if we have an in-person |
| 5764s | event does it only have to be Esports or |
| 5767s | could there be fan meet up with you know |
| 5769s | some content creators and over there is |
| 5771s | a merge corner where you can buy merge |
| 5773s | and then there's some other activities |
| 5775s | so I think like there's just many |
| 5776s | opportunities we haven't really tapped |
| 5778s | into also because of you know our |
| 5780s | traditionally small team sizes we are |
| 5783s | we're trying to get |
| 5784s | better place with us where we have more |
| 5786s | bent withth and where we can try out and |
| 5788s | experiment |
| 5790s | more yeah but well ready can I you you |
| 5794s | use your question ticket on that |
| 5797s | one I suppose so we'll see I think a lot |
| 5801s | of um I think a lot of my questions here |
| 5805s | have been answered here's here's just |
| 5807s | kind of an interesting um theoretical |
| 5809s | question just to kind of see how yall |
| 5812s | think I think I asked you quite some |
| 5814s | quite similar at Worlds last year the |
| 5817s | question is do you think brawl star |
| 5819s | would be a better meaning more fun and |
| 5821s | enjoyable game if spending money were |
| 5824s | not an |
| 5826s | option I don't think so |
| 5828s | personally um like the the way we're |
| 5832s | looking at money like every business |
| 5835s | like not like every business actually |
| 5837s | like when when whenever we create new |
| 5840s | content it's never money is never the |
| 5843s | driver behind that when we when we |
| 5845s | create a new feature it's always driven |
| 5847s | by how does it make the player's life |
| 5852s | better does it have a monetization |
| 5854s | component sometimes yes sometimes |
| 5856s | no um but we generally want to make the |
| 5859s | best game |
| 5861s | first but |
| 5863s | um monetization for us it's the ultimate |
| 5868s | sign of |
| 5869s | Engagement people do not invest time or |
| 5872s | money into stuff they don't care about |
| 5876s | so so it's a so for us it's more like |
| 5878s | it's not it's an outcome it's not the |
| 5881s | goal I can I can tell you nobody work |
| 5884s | would work in video games if it was |
| 5886s | about money only there's you know like |
| 5890s | people could invest their their |
| 5891s | programming skills their design skills |
| 5894s | their business skills into other other |
| 5896s | Industries and would make more money |
| 5899s | personally speaking but but most of us |
| 5902s | are here because of a passion |
| 5904s | and and all of us are playing the game |
| 5907s | and you can have you know like with all |
| 5909s | of us a meaningful conversation about |
| 5911s | the game but of course we need to we |
| 5913s | need to earn some money to keep this |
| 5915s | going to invest in things like Esports |
| 5918s | to you know to just you know pay the |
| 5922s | builds and the the more profitable we |
| 5925s | are we we are the more opportunities we |
| 5928s | have have to to do things and this a bit |
| 5931s | zoomed out not only brawl right as a |
| 5934s | company if braw is not |
| 5936s | profitable of course like may maybe |
| 5939s | let's assume for a second very |
| 5940s | hypothetical we would just break even so |
| 5944s | we would have brawl it would be this |
| 5946s | this stalemate where we only have brawl |
| 5948s | we cannot do any new |
| 5950s | games eventually braw would decline like |
| 5954s | maybe not in the next 5 years let's say |
| 5957s | in 50 years from |
| 5958s | now right bra would bra probably will be |
| 5962s | smaller in 50 years from now maybe it's |
| 5964s | still be around maybe it's a different |
| 5965s | version of a game but you know there |
| 5967s | will be decline so as a company we have |
| 5970s | to develop new games we have to look for |
| 5973s | the next cool thing for for our players |
| 5975s | to generate value for our |
| 5977s | players and then as a side product that |
| 5980s | generates value for us as individuals |
| 5982s | and the company but for that to happen |
| 5984s | we need to have a profit because else we |
| 5986s | cannot hire the next five developers who |
| 5989s | then make the next cool game like Moco |
| 5992s | right now you know is in development |
| 5994s | because we have games like |
| 5997s | brawl and it wouldn't be around if it |
| 5999s | wouldn't so so it's |
| 6003s | like so ultimately I think no no it's |
| 6006s | like it wouldn't make brawl better it |
| 6009s | also wouldn't necessarily mean that more |
| 6011s | people engage with brawl it's it's just |
| 6014s | you know like something free is |
| 6016s | sometimes something people don't really |
| 6018s | care about but I think I was like |
| 6022s | getting his qu uh your question from a |
| 6024s | philosophical perspective like if you |
| 6026s | don't have to spend can you have the |
| 6027s | same amount of fun and I'm like I was |
| 6029s | like in a crisis while while Frankie was |
| 6031s | answering that one cuz I was stying to |
| 6033s | think of like there are like freet |
| 6035s | to-play games that I don't pay anything |
| 6036s | and I just churn immediately as opposed |
| 6039s | to like when for example like I bought I |
| 6041s | bought um this astrobot that just got |
| 6044s | released for PlayStation and then I just |
| 6047s | feel like the need to play and have fun |
| 6050s | right it's almost like there's like a |
| 6051s | commitment with the money involved and I |
| 6054s | would say like brao is the same thing |
| 6055s | that just like I don't know like you're |
| 6057s | playing normally you're evolving but it |
| 6059s | feels stale it feels like I want more of |
| 6062s | this and then it feels like the money |
| 6064s | part but like I don't know how much is |
| 6066s | it like uh like the universe we leave |
| 6071s | it's like the capitalism blah blah that |
| 6073s | it makes money important for you to have |
| 6075s | fun or something or yeah I don't know it |
| 6078s | feels that if there's no if you don't |
| 6081s | pay for it you don't feel as committed |
| 6083s | and it even could feel like less fun so |
| 6086s | like when you buy a skin you want to |
| 6087s | show off that and it's part of the fun |
| 6089s | right and it could be like if you |
| 6091s | everyone could buy this king or like you |
| 6093s | don't need to to pay money for that it |
| 6096s | loses the fun of like the showing off I |
| 6098s | don't know it's it's really deep yeah |
| 6101s | but really and going going back a bit |
| 6103s | because like let's say we there was no |
| 6105s | way to pay in the game for anything then |
| 6108s | probably you would have to pay for the |
| 6109s | game itself right like that's that's the |
| 6111s | option because sure there needs to be |
| 6113s | somewhere and if you do do that then |
| 6115s | that's a really hard hurdle for people |
| 6117s | to overcome right so then suddenly |
| 6119s | because we want to reach Mass audience |
| 6121s | right we want to reach as many people as |
| 6123s | possible to have fun with the game and |
| 6125s | if you have to pay for it then we are no |
| 6127s | longer achieving that because a lot of |
| 6129s | people they can't afford that like they |
| 6130s | for example or for some reason they |
| 6132s | don't want to do that and then we kind |
| 6135s | of failed on the first step already so |
| 6137s | it's not really viable for us in that |
| 6139s | way I think like some of the the message |
| 6142s | of you know our goal is to make a good |
| 6145s | game first and foremost um gets lost |
| 6149s | when you are like only seeing things |
| 6152s | from the outside in and and you don't |
| 6154s | have that transparency of you know |
| 6155s | hearing the thoughts and sort of the |
| 6157s | inner mechan of um the mindset of |
| 6161s | everyone on the team because in the end |
| 6163s | it is a necessity that you know this can |
| 6167s | sustain the lifestyle of everyone that |
| 6169s | creates the |
| 6170s | game um it it's all just quite |
| 6174s | complicated I think conversation started |
| 6178s | yeah it's probably you get a probably |
| 6180s | whole podcast just about this topic yeah |
| 6182s | it's uh it's like of course as a company |
| 6185s | we choose freet toplay as a business |
| 6186s | model because we have that dream of |
| 6188s | bringing games to as many people as |
| 6190s | possible and and I think it's like to |
| 6194s | create ex inclusive games right you need |
| 6197s | to be free to play it's like how many |
| 6200s | like something like we we're getting fan |
| 6202s | mail quite often and we're getting like |
| 6204s | messages from parents quite often I can |
| 6206s | tell you after Co there was the spike of |
| 6209s | positive influx of messages from people |
| 6211s | who said thanks for brawl star because |
| 6215s | like I was stuck in my room and and you |
| 6218s | know like that was my outlet that was my |
| 6221s | way into the world and completely free |
| 6223s | to play and we we're completely happy if |
| 6225s | you're completely free to play we we are |
| 6227s | not you know like it's we we're happy |
| 6229s | with having you around and the lon share |
| 6231s | of our users today is free to play |
| 6234s | that's true for every free-to-play game |
| 6236s | but the amount of people who can play |
| 6238s | games that are free to playay today |
| 6241s | because of the model versus the amount |
| 6243s | of people who could play games before |
| 6244s | that it's like both the mix free-to-play |
| 6247s | model and mobile is it made you know a |
| 6250s | democratized gaming it made it from an |
| 6253s | exclusive hobby for a small niche of |
| 6255s | people who had enough money to buy a PC |
| 6257s | to buy a gaming console to buy all of |
| 6259s | that to open it up to you know like this |
| 6262s | is was the Diablo guy right don't you |
| 6264s | have a phone everyone has a phone |
| 6266s | everyone has a phone today and everyone |
| 6269s | can download freet to-play apps so so |
| 6271s | the amount of people who play games |
| 6273s | today is so much bigger because of this |
| 6276s | and it's like for me it's like I I you |
| 6278s | know I was a hardcore I worked at |
| 6280s | blizzard and I was a hardcore PC Gamer |
| 6282s | for a long time and I would belittle |
| 6285s | everything that's not PC |
| 6286s | gaming including the console boys you |
| 6289s | know it's like for me it's like ah it's |
| 6290s | not even gaming but but but I'm today |
| 6293s | I'm like I'm I'm I'm a steadfast |
| 6296s | defender of the model because I |
| 6298s | ultimately think we can you know can |
| 6301s | bring ultimately so much joy to people |
| 6303s | who who wouldn't have that joy in their |
| 6304s | life who wouldn't have the distraction |
| 6306s | who wouldn't have anything to play so so |
| 6308s | I think it's |
| 6309s | really yeah but of course it needs money |
| 6312s | to keep it going MH and I think it kind |
| 6314s | of goes like full circle with the |
| 6315s | monetization discussion because it's |
| 6317s | like the people that spend more money on |
| 6319s | the game are kind of like paying for the |
| 6320s | people that are free to play there's |
| 6323s | like yeah some beauty in that I guess in |
| 6325s | a way and one one other thing I wanted |
| 6327s | to add up with this as well just like a |
| 6329s | thought um is like the fact that skins |
| 6333s | and Brawlers and everything kind of like |
| 6335s | has some sort of monetary value I think |
| 6338s | gives it like more value in general |
| 6340s | because when you get a free skin what |
| 6342s | you're not getting like nothing you're |
| 6344s | getting you know something that is worth |
| 6346s | a certain amount of gems which is worth |
| 6348s | a certain amount of of money and that I |
| 6350s | think that makes it um especially with |
| 6352s | like the gacha mechanics I think it |
| 6354s | makes it extra exciting because you know |
| 6357s | that what you're getting is like worth |
| 6359s | more than you know what you would |
| 6361s | normally get so you're you got lucky and |
| 6364s | it feels like you you got lucky and and |
| 6367s | like that yeah all right I think this |
| 6369s | one is for Adrian but maybe everyone has |
| 6371s | something to chip in uh I was wondering |
| 6373s | was like the amount of different devices |
| 6375s | that bro can be played on how does like |
| 6378s | testing and optimizing go do you guys |
| 6380s | like you know do that on specific |
| 6382s | devices you have like a list where you |
| 6384s | like you know checkbox everything like |
| 6386s | how how does that go great question um |
| 6389s | there's many steps to this so I want to |
| 6391s | start with we have of course a quality |
| 6392s | assurance team in house so we have um a |
| 6395s | team that sits with us that takes care |
| 6396s | of the manual testing part but something |
| 6399s | they also do is they coordinate a lot of |
| 6401s | external partners that we have that help |
| 6403s | us test um that's how we get like the |
| 6405s | qualitative data when it comes to actual |
| 6408s | performance for example like how does |
| 6409s | braw play on this device we of course |
| 6411s | have a lot of devices ourselves but then |
| 6413s | we Al also have data like that we |
| 6415s | collect that tells us okay what is the |
| 6417s | average for example FPS on this device |
| 6419s | our mission overall with the quality of |
| 6422s | the game is it needs to be as playable |
| 6423s | as possible on as many devices as |
| 6425s | possible also because we mentioned the |
| 6427s | age profile usually of our players they |
| 6430s | might not have the best devices so if |
| 6432s | brawl runs perfectly on let's say the |
| 6434s | newest iPhone but doesn't run as well on |
| 6436s | older ones that's not good enough we |
| 6438s | need to make sure that everyone has a |
| 6439s | good experience nearly no matter what |
| 6441s | device you have of course some times |
| 6443s | there are things outside of our control |
| 6445s | for example brawl is no longer supported |
| 6448s | on certain devices because of an OS |
| 6450s | update that is mandatory or something |
| 6451s | like that but those are rare So in |
| 6454s | general that's kind of the mindset we |
| 6457s | have like we want to make sure that it's |
| 6459s | playable on as many devices as possible |
| 6461s | did I miss some part of the question or |
| 6462s | was that the I guess how do you test on |
| 6464s | every device oh how do you test on every |
| 6466s | device well that's essentially |
| 6467s | impossible we don't test on every device |
| 6469s | in existence um for example also just to |
| 6471s | give an example like let's say you have |
| 6473s | a Galaxy phone let's say Galaxy S10 or |
| 6477s | whatever um if you bought it in the US |
| 6480s | it's a different pH phone from if you |
| 6482s | bought it in the EU versus if you bought |
| 6484s | it in Asia even though it's the exact |
| 6485s | same phone um but it has different |
| 6487s | chipsets for example for I'm not going |
| 6488s | to go too technical but I'm saying |
| 6490s | basically it's impossible to test on all |
| 6492s | the variations but what we can do is |
| 6494s | make sure that if there is a phone that |
| 6496s | is a real problematic case that we can |
| 6497s | see from data we get that phone and then |
| 6500s | we see okay what is actually the issue |
| 6502s | can we fix it is it something that the |
| 6504s | manufacturer has to fix and then we can |
| 6505s | for example talk to the m like hey this |
| 6507s | thing doesn't work on your thing can you |
| 6510s | can you look into it for example but |
| 6512s | everything that is in our power to fix |
| 6514s | and optimize we want to try |
| 6517s | do I'm |
| 6520s | satisfied I went really deep technically |
| 6522s | sorry but I'm really passionate about |
| 6524s | the subject sign how satisfied you |
| 6527s | are 100% satisfaction perfect nice my |
| 6532s | last thing this is more unstructured |
| 6534s | it's me gauging the likelihood of seeing |
| 6537s | a couple of features I would really like |
| 6538s | to see um they would especially be |
| 6540s | useful for Productions of Esports the |
| 6545s | first one is what is the likelihood that |
| 6548s | we see um an upgrade to the spectator |
| 6551s | mode where we would see one game |
| 6553s | automatically progress into the next if |
| 6556s | it's a power match and then also seeing |
| 6559s | draft beforehand that is kind of two |
| 6561s | questions two questions oh yeah that's |
| 6563s | like that's like okay I'm like ramping |
| 6566s | up in in terms of how much development |
| 6569s | time it would take and then the final |
| 6571s | one that would be nice to see is um an |
| 6573s | adjustment to the API that allows you to |
| 6576s | see in progress tournament matches |
| 6578s | gather realtime data especially in terms |
| 6581s | of draft which is currently uh |
| 6583s | restricted only to tournament organizers |
| 6586s | sure I think there's there's uh many |
| 6589s | steps to this I think spectating in |
| 6590s | itself is quite a niche in our game if |
| 6593s | if we don't look at Esports right and |
| 6594s | don't look at API and everything like |
| 6596s | people spectating games is not as many |
| 6598s | as people playing game obviously but |
| 6601s | that doesn't mean it's not a priority |
| 6602s | like we're also I'm I'm annoyed by this |
| 6604s | every time it's like I have to quit the |
| 6605s | Spector and go back in between rounds |
| 6607s | like it's really annoying and these |
| 6608s | small things that are annoying is stuff |
| 6611s | that is basically on our list to fix so |
| 6613s | but it doesn't mean that that's the |
| 6614s | first thing we're going to fix but |
| 6616s | eventually we will get to it |
| 6617s | unfortunately it's not a satisfactory |
| 6618s | answer cuz I can't give you we will fix |
| 6620s | it then but I can tell you we will fix |
| 6622s | it eventually if that makes sense yeah |
| 6624s | maybe like if you're touching on a |
| 6625s | feature that is related to spectate or |
| 6627s | something like that then I guess like |
| 6630s | some orts integration with the game or |
| 6632s | whatever then now it makes sense to get |
| 6634s | like this feature from the backlog or |
| 6636s | something like that exactly and I think |
| 6638s | it's the same same kind of logic for |
| 6640s | apis yes like we want to make sure it's |
| 6642s | as user friendly as possible as |
| 6644s | versatile as possible and has you know |
| 6647s | kind of the robustness that you'd expect |
| 6649s | from the API on the Esports side but |
| 6651s | again that takes time and it just needs |
| 6653s | someone to prioritize it and for us to |
| 6656s | be able to okay this is actually |
| 6657s | something we really need for example to |
| 6659s | this for this production to be of the |
| 6661s | quality that we want it to be and stuff |
| 6663s | like that on the API side actually we we |
| 6666s | recently hired a new team member he's a |
| 6668s | producer who's helping us to get a bit |
| 6670s | more organized with some things and um a |
| 6675s | like General API not necessarily only |
| 6676s | Esports API is now a constant part of |
| 6680s | our thinking every update cycle so you |
| 6682s | already start reaching out to some uh |
| 6685s | you know third party developers who |
| 6687s | built websites and stuff around that |
| 6689s | braw to to ask them hey what what kind |
| 6692s | of features do you want um so the |
| 6695s | Esports API is just one other angle |
| 6697s | there and um yeah it's probably |
| 6700s | something we're going to improve over |
| 6701s | time and hopefully we can make it more |
| 6703s | accessible for other people but there's |
| 6705s | like around competitive play in general |
| 6707s | Etc right it's it's still the way |
| 6709s | structure right now besides BC it's it's |
| 6711s | rather Niche mhm so so there's other |
| 6715s | things which probably come before making |
| 6718s | the Esports API more accessible and and |
| 6721s | you know things like can we make it |
| 6724s | easier for people to run tournaments |
| 6726s | within brawl with in-game rewards you |
| 6728s | know like we don't know yet it's it's |
| 6731s | yeah that's that I think the complicated |
| 6733s | thing is the spectac draft that's |
| 6737s | technically not the way how it's |
| 6739s | structured today there's no no easy way |
| 6742s | of doing doing this and and so I |
| 6745s | wouldn't get my hopes up that that will |
| 6746s | happen anytime soon if at all um but the |
| 6749s | other two yeah yeah I think a little bit |
| 6752s | of like quality of life related to this |
| 6755s | as well is like I think it would go a |
| 6756s | long way for third party events for you |
| 6760s | know streaming a match arino and even |
| 6762s | like in the BC at times because you have |
| 6764s | spectator bugs where if you're |
| 6766s | spectating a Lobby it's going to switch |
| 6768s | sides or the lobby is not going to |
| 6769s | appear at all so you have to go in the |
| 6771s | in the friend list and it's like uh |
| 6773s | those little inconsistency don't get me |
| 6775s | started on like The Spectator servers uh |
| 6778s | at time yeah um so there's a lot of |
| 6780s | those like things that kind of come into |
| 6782s | play and and I I know it's very Niche |
| 6784s | but it is truly like a a limit that is I |
| 6788s | think frustrating for like you know |
| 6790s | people heavily involved in orts because |
| 6792s | there's nothing we can do about it |
| 6794s | because it's just like okay we can't |
| 6795s | spectate the |
| 6797s | game there's no solution M yeah yeah |
| 6800s | that's fair that's fair um |
| 6803s | just before we go to the ready questions |
| 6806s | I know that ready is good at |
| 6809s | Impressions oh |
| 6811s | and yeah maybe maybe you do the |
| 6813s | impression and people try to guess who |
| 6815s | it is yeah that this is actually a great |
| 6816s | idea this was a this is a really tough |
| 6818s | one you ready yeah |
| 6821s | let's hello everyone and welcome to bro |
| 6824s | talk today we are going to be |
| 6825s | introducing six new hyperchargers |
| 6827s | several star Powers two new brers in |
| 6830s | this next update |
| 6833s | I don't know who |
| 6834s | [Laughter] |
| 6836s | you're thank you thank you very much |
| 6839s | like you even sounded more German than |
| 6841s | FRS |
| 6844s | no can you say C puffy again oh yeah Cel |
| 6849s | something close enough close enough it's |
| 6851s | a pass yeah can you do an impression of |
| 6854s | us or I I'm working on one of you but |
| 6857s | it's not ready for anyone not not |
| 6859s | production qualif okay okay okay that |
| 6862s | makes sense enough all right so let's go |
| 6864s | to the Reddit questions I think those |
| 6866s | are like still like very engaged players |
| 6867s | so like it might take some time but then |
| 6869s | the Instagram and YouTube they should be |
| 6872s | really |
| 6873s | casual uh your beater rival um do you |
| 6878s | plan on buffing the star Powers Gadget |
| 6880s | that didn't keep up with the power |
| 6881s | scaling like Ru field promotion for |
| 6883s | example yeah this is a really good |
| 6885s | question um the problem with that one |
| 6887s | specifically is it's a flat value and |
| 6889s | it's on it's like that on purpose um |
| 6891s | there's a few that values things in the |
| 6894s | game still for example the shield gear |
| 6896s | because if that is made percentage based |
| 6898s | then it kind of flips who it's for |
| 6900s | instead of being for a squishy brawler |
| 6901s | now it's for a tank for example for the |
| 6903s | shield gear if fit let's say 10% of your |
| 6905s | HP it's similar to the um field |
| 6908s | promotion but I do think we could |
| 6911s | increase the flat value but probably not |
| 6912s | make it a percentage if that makes sense |
| 6914s | yeah yeah um pay major the community has |
| 6919s | asked for so long to find solution with |
| 6921s | coins compared to PowerPoints coins is |
| 6923s | in big shortage maybe some kind of |
| 6926s | conversion could be possible to at least |
| 6928s | redu in the prices of hypercharge and |
| 6931s | thanks advance I love you then um yeah |
| 6934s | so like I prepare ears for this question |
| 6937s | um it's like what I what what I think |
| 6941s | that there is a problem is because we |
| 6943s | are not like giving less coins like we |
| 6945s | are giving more coins in general like |
| 6947s | raw coins actually on top of like the |
| 6949s | renal rewards that's like Gadget star |
| 6951s | drops hypercharge in gcha but players |
| 6955s | are still complaining about that so |
| 6957s | there's a perception that like I'm not |
| 6958s | getting enough progression um and I |
| 6961s | think it's because not I think like it's |
| 6963s | obvious we added a new sink that is a |
| 6966s | huge sink hypercharged right so I think |
| 6968s | there's a lot of things at play here uh |
| 6972s | because if we if we just add a flat |
| 6975s | number of coins in the BR pass or like |
| 6978s | something that you can see okay so there |
| 6979s | is a obvious buff here because before it |
| 6982s | was that now it's this like so we would |
| 6984s | see like the buff and then that will |
| 6985s | probably help a bit with a perception |
| 6987s | but I don't think it would solve |
| 6989s | anything because it wouldn't change |
| 6990s | engagement it wouldn't change uh how |
| 6993s | much players will play the game because |
| 6995s | as we proved before like if it's just a |
| 6998s | flat reward people are not as excited to |
| 7000s | get or like they don't chase it um so |
| 7003s | then what we do with that is like there |
| 7005s | is the need there like people want to |
| 7008s | get this currency or they need more of |
| 7010s | these so you use this as a carrot for |
| 7013s | like our events for like SpongeBob |
| 7015s | there's like actual progression there |
| 7016s | which is on top of the flat progression |
| 7018s | that you have in game community events |
| 7020s | is the same we have like this big budget |
| 7023s | of like rewards that droping one day and |
| 7026s | then you feel like I can't miss this |
| 7028s | because uh I will it will help my |
| 7031s | account to be to progress so then it |
| 7033s | feels like we get more of |
| 7036s | the of what player is asking and then we |
| 7039s | get like something in return as well and |
| 7041s | then you might question like but why are |
| 7043s | you so greedy why do you need these |
| 7044s | results all the time just do a flat uh |
| 7047s | uh buff and that's it and then I think |
| 7050s | we go even deeper because like just take |
| 7053s | an example like uh the game that just |
| 7054s | got released like Jeff is talking all |
| 7056s | the time about that the black meat uh |
| 7059s | Wukong like it's a game that was made by |
| 7061s | a Chinese company and like it's so |
| 7063s | polished it's almost like perfect right |
| 7065s | and then it beat Dark Souls or every |
| 7067s | other Souls game like by but maybe not |
| 7070s | by far but like in maybe two weeks |
| 7073s | and every time there's a bunch of |
| 7076s | developers that are really talented |
| 7077s | really good that are releasing games in |
| 7079s | the market all the time and we feel like |
| 7081s | we are in this constant batt of like how |
| 7084s | can we make the most of the things we do |
| 7085s | right so that's why we require |
| 7087s | engagement for everything we do because |
| 7089s | if we in a Moment release something mild |
| 7093s | someone can go on top and release |
| 7095s | something great and that's could be |
| 7097s | enough for us to lose a lot of players |
| 7099s | right so that's for why for us players |
| 7102s | changing something is really important |
| 7105s | with that said I just want to say show a |
| 7108s | graph of how much how much more coins we |
| 7111s | are giving |
| 7112s | now um so like the average that it |
| 7116s | doesn't show that much because um of |
| 7119s | course there's a lot of spikes and then |
| 7122s | if you would uh average like put this |
| 7125s | spike in an average it will actually |
| 7126s | increase the Baseline but you can see |
| 7128s | that even like the Baseline is already |
| 7130s | increased when you change the BR pass |
| 7133s | um to the new format it's like it feels |
| 7136s | that we already like giving more overall |
| 7139s | and this for example I don't even know |
| 7140s | what this event like in April I think |
| 7143s | it's the 100 star drops maybe yeah I |
| 7144s | think so yeah like this day like you |
| 7147s | shouldn't Miss and that's why like |
| 7148s | that's why the events are so successful |
| 7150s | right so I think it's just like us |
| 7153s | asking for engagement like keep playing |
| 7155s | the game constantly and you get rewarded |
| 7157s | and you maybe you feel like the |
| 7159s | progression is going faster um we have |
| 7163s | here the average daily income so like |
| 7165s | that's every day and then you can see |
| 7168s | how like the Baseline is very high um |
| 7171s | and it's still uh climbing up which |
| 7174s | makes Jeff on our side to be to get |
| 7176s | desperate like oh my God they're getting |
| 7178s | too many coins but like then we can also |
| 7180s | raas hypercharge and sinks and things |
| 7183s | like that we can balance it out or maybe |
| 7185s | like not put them as much rewards on in |
| 7188s | a event so for example the last one we |
| 7190s | did with the box versus start drop |
| 7193s | um well we actually gave both rewards so |
| 7195s | that was a lot as well it was a lot but |
| 7198s | intentionally it was supposed to be like |
| 7200s | one of the rewards only so it wasn't |
| 7202s | like as much but you can see like the |
| 7205s | events are kind of like this flexible |
| 7207s | currency that we can adapt to however |
| 7209s | our economy is it's like we can see like |
| 7211s | that yeah players are getting too little |
| 7213s | they can't progress uh then you should |
| 7216s | like a bigger event and things like that |
| 7218s | because we also don't want to be in a |
| 7220s | situation where like there's a pay or |
| 7223s | like uh we play like we our mobile games |
| 7225s | here we play those games that like you |
| 7227s | play the first week and like yeah I'm |
| 7230s | progressing it feels great then like P |
| 7232s | you get to a point that like you need to |
| 7234s | play a month to upgrade your character |
| 7236s | to one level or something like that and |
| 7238s | brow is not like that you have agency to |
| 7241s | progress whoever you want and I think |
| 7243s | maybe the arguments like how can I be |
| 7245s | competitive how can I have all my |
| 7246s | Brawlers progress but a freeo player |
| 7250s | shouldn't be in this situation I think |
| 7252s | it's fine to ask that if they want a |
| 7254s | braw to be upgrade they can wait a |
| 7257s | season right and then they can invest |
| 7258s | all the resources there but |
| 7261s | basically that's the answer like we are |
| 7265s | adding more coins we adapt when we see |
| 7267s | that the |
| 7269s | the that we are actually giving less |
| 7272s | than they should and then we never want |
| 7274s | the progression to feel stale but we |
| 7277s | don't we don't just want to give like a |
| 7279s | flat coin buff because we don't we we |
| 7284s | know we won't get any results from that |
| 7287s | people will probably still have the same |
| 7289s | complaints but at least now they know |
| 7292s | why I I genuinely believe people always |
| 7294s | complained about coins in the history of |
| 7297s | broad stars from the very beginning yeah |
| 7300s | yeah but that's not a good thing we |
| 7302s | would like to solve this but I guess |
| 7305s | what I'm saying is It's never |
| 7307s | enough it's it's like even if you |
| 7310s | increase it it's never It's never enough |
| 7312s | it's it's like one of these things which |
| 7313s | is |
| 7315s | like it's like matchmaking like oh |
| 7318s | teamas in Showdown like there's just a |
| 7321s | few topics |
| 7322s | which by definition will always be there |
| 7325s | and even you know some people learned |
| 7327s | about you know they're maybe listening |
| 7330s | to this podcast or or see it on YouTube |
| 7332s | and |
| 7333s | and then the next generation of players |
| 7335s | that starts new will experience the same |
| 7337s | and they haven't seen the sprawl talk uh |
| 7339s | podcast |
| 7341s | yeah but I think with that said I think |
| 7343s | it would be interesting for us like to |
| 7345s | maybe to discuss internally what we can |
| 7347s | can we do to change this perception I |
| 7350s | think one of the questions there is like |
| 7352s | what if you add gears to to start drops |
| 7355s | or something like that Adent feels |
| 7357s | against it because you're like eh it's |
| 7360s | like a vision gears on on Primo yeah |
| 7362s | it's I I don't think it's the it's the |
| 7364s | best idea we can come up with but it's |
| 7366s | just like one of the ideas that is like |
| 7367s | okay this is an extra thing on top that |
| 7369s | has an absolute coin value but of course |
| 7371s | the per is like it's either great value |
| 7374s | or it might not be great value depending |
| 7375s | on what you get and for who right but |
| 7377s | there is many ways we can go about this |
| 7379s | and at the end of the day like you said |
| 7380s | it's about perception like we are giving |
| 7382s | you more but if you don't feel like |
| 7384s | you're getting more then we're giving it |
| 7386s | in the wrong way or we're not |
| 7388s | communicating clearly enough or |
| 7389s | something like that yeah and I think |
| 7392s | also like if you look at cairo's free |
| 7394s | to-play account like of course like he's |
| 7396s | doing like the M Max like he's doing |
| 7398s | everything he can to like progress his |
| 7400s | account for free but like he's already |
| 7404s | been paying for one year he has like I |
| 7406s | don't know 30 bers maxed out with Hyper |
| 7408s | charges and everything and that's |
| 7409s | already enough to be competitive right |
| 7411s | yeah for sure but but of course like |
| 7413s | he's being smart on his choices so he's |
| 7414s | not picking brers that are like weak for |
| 7416s | a long time and everything yeah and he's |
| 7418s | making choices right and I think that's |
| 7420s | something that we expect from a free |
| 7423s | play player like maybe you don't get all |
| 7424s | your Brawlers to level 11 with Hyper |
| 7426s | charges straight away that's fine then |
| 7428s | you know then you have to focus on okay |
| 7430s | this is my favorite one so I will start |
| 7431s | with this one and then I go to my next |
| 7433s | favorite one and so forth and I think |
| 7434s | it's fine to ask for that |
| 7436s | choice uh one uh question here um could |
| 7440s | maybe a little bit more like consistency |
| 7442s | in the stardrop rewards especially when |
| 7445s | it's like an item worth gold uh that |
| 7447s | you're reing could that maybe help the |
| 7449s | problem here plus like remove that |
| 7451s | slight frustration when like you get a |
| 7453s | legendary and you're hoping for I don't |
| 7454s | know a hypercharge but you get a gadget |
| 7457s | instead sure um this is something we |
| 7458s | discussed actually recently as well um I |
| 7460s | don't want to spoil too much but there's |
| 7462s | definitely discussions going on like how |
| 7463s | can we feel like you have more agency |
| 7466s | when you're opening drops essentially |
| 7468s | it's like oh I'm I keep getting bling |
| 7470s | you know and I just I just want credits |
| 7472s | for my uh for my fame yeah and yeah I |
| 7477s | was just going to say like it's very |
| 7479s | subjective as well right like let's say |
| 7480s | you get a hypercharge right if you |
| 7482s | really like that brawler that's a great |
| 7483s | drop for you yeah if you don't like the |
| 7485s | brawler that's not a good drop for you |
| 7487s | but value-wise it's the same right like |
| 7489s | the absolute value is the same but not |
| 7491s | for you and that's a tricky thing to |
| 7493s | solve for right like how do you feel |
| 7495s | about that so yeah also random ability |
| 7498s | also allows us to give more exactly |
| 7500s | because of that it's like we are only |
| 7502s | allowed to give more resources because |
| 7504s | you don't get exactly what you want all |
| 7506s | the time right it's like it's you are |
| 7508s | still progressing your account and you |
| 7509s | still get the value but then uh yeah but |
| 7512s | because if you give exactly what you |
| 7514s | want then you don't have a Carro to |
| 7515s | Chase and then that you don't have a |
| 7517s | meaning to play the |
| 7519s | game there's also like tons of POS about |
| 7522s | giving your rewards for Brawlers you're |
| 7524s | not currently playing for sure yeah |
| 7525s | because you you want people to have a |
| 7528s | white as possible brawler pool because |
| 7530s | they will enjoy the game more the the |
| 7532s | moment you you get over this onetick |
| 7534s | Pony behavior that you know you're only |
| 7536s | playing Edgar Edgar yeah then like it |
| 7540s | but sometimes it needs a carrot it needs |
| 7542s | to have a gentle push to hey we gave you |
| 7545s | hypercharge for this BR now you never |
| 7546s | play this roll up but you know go over |
| 7549s | there well actually it's it's true RNG |
| 7551s | for us so it's it's not like even we're |
| 7553s | deliberately targeting rets you're not |
| 7555s | playing but it it really helps actually |
| 7558s | the game as a whole to push you gently |
| 7561s | in trying out a different brawler you |
| 7562s | never played because you know oh my God |
| 7564s | you you might turn out that you like |
| 7566s | this other braer and then you're like oh |
| 7568s | damn I I really like playing this |
| 7570s | brawler so it's like the the random |
| 7574s | rewards have a have a really good use in |
| 7576s | that in that way as well and at the same |
| 7578s | time it allows us to give us more value |
| 7581s | actually than we would in flat |
| 7583s | currency Cho choice and and value need |
| 7586s | to be in Balance always yeah and I think |
| 7589s | randomized rewards give us this this |
| 7591s | ability to give a little bit more |
| 7592s | because it's |
| 7594s | random cool then Cubit will there be |
| 7598s | updates that have a long effect on game |
| 7600s | uh because last updates were just an |
| 7602s | event new schem blah blah blah but I |
| 7605s | would like |
| 7606s | know a lot of work thank you uh but like |
| 7609s | to know if there are some long lasting |
| 7611s | changes planned for for example the |
| 7613s | trophy |
| 7614s | reset uh we answered this question |
| 7616s | already but I would like to use this |
| 7618s | moment to sneak peek and it can cut |
| 7620s | after if it's not true that the next |
| 7623s | update will have a change to Trophy |
| 7626s | reset exciting |
| 7629s | whoa you Pi no I picked the wrong |
| 7635s | one another blue okay okay okay cool uh |
| 7639s | R the cobba boy |
| 7643s | are you ever planning on getting rid of |
| 7645s | PowerPoint since basically everything |
| 7647s | costs gold and even cost gold to upgrade |
| 7651s | Brower are you for example going to get |
| 7654s | rid of PowerPoints completely or make it |
| 7655s | so upgrading browers only con PowerPoint |
| 7657s | instead of code um I think Frank you had |
| 7661s | a good talk about PowerPoints of the |
| 7664s | future of PowerPoints or something that |
| 7667s | regarding to progression yeah and like |
| 7670s | more of a general statement what one of |
| 7672s | the tools one one of the reasons why |
| 7675s | it's in game development and game design |
| 7677s | it's better to have multiple currencies |
| 7680s | is that you you have more angle to |
| 7681s | balance things you can you can give |
| 7685s | rewards and encourage some behaviors and |
| 7688s | the moment you just have one currency |
| 7689s | you will forego all of that so you're |
| 7691s | losing design space you need to be more |
| 7693s | strict with how much you're giving out |
| 7695s | and all of that so two currencies just |
| 7697s | help us to balance things in a better |
| 7699s | way so so we are not intending to remove |
| 7702s | further currencies even though we |
| 7704s | haven't shied away in the past from |
| 7706s | removing currencies when necessary when |
| 7708s | we feel it doesn't add value then yes |
| 7711s | but but I would expect us to keep two |
| 7713s | currencies now this this problem with |
| 7715s | the surplus of PowerPoints is a very |
| 7717s | specific one again it's affecting very |
| 7719s | few players actually uh including myself |
| 7722s | I'm like sitting at 100,000 plus |
| 7725s | PowerPoints um and it's it's something |
| 7728s | we're aware of it's affecting a small |
| 7731s | amount of people but in the future like |
| 7734s | we are of course thinking of you know if |
| 7736s | you do the math and you know how many |
| 7737s | hyperchargers we release every update |
| 7740s | you you you will see that there will be |
| 7742s | probably an end ofroad at some point |
| 7744s | next year uh especially you know if you |
| 7747s | would accelerate some hyper charges here |
| 7749s | and there so so what's |
| 7752s | next what's coming after hyper charges |
| 7756s | is it power |
| 7758s | 12 |
| 7759s | um like we don't know |
| 7762s | we don't we genuinely don't know um do I |
| 7766s | think it would be power 12 no probably |
| 7767s | not we we have some other ideas um all |
| 7771s | these are way too early to talk about it |
| 7773s | but but there's other ideas and and |
| 7776s | we're looking at this like these other |
| 7778s | ideas that would probably add some sort |
| 7780s | of um deep deepening of |
| 7784s | gameplay and if you think about you know |
| 7786s | people who have Brawlers at Power 11 and |
| 7790s | hyperchargers and they're probably |
| 7792s | pretty pretty mature in the game and |
| 7794s | they they want deeper game play so and |
| 7798s | those players are also the players who |
| 7800s | have a surplus of power points so s like |
| 7804s | an opportunity yeah yeah can we can we |
| 7807s | take these two things and you know make |
| 7809s | something magical in the middle so can |
| 7811s | can we can we add deeper gam playay |
| 7814s | while addressing the power point Surplus |
| 7816s | on high end yeah for highend players for |
| 7819s | people who have pretty much all the |
| 7820s | Brawlers unlocked because it's the only |
| 7821s | situation you will be in a surplus of |
| 7824s | PowerPoints so we we're trying to figure |
| 7826s | out like if we can solve both things at |
| 7829s | the same time have cool new gameplay and |
| 7831s | fix the PowerPoint situation so in the |
| 7834s | short term that also means that we're |
| 7835s | not going to change anything about the |
| 7837s | existing situation because you know we |
| 7840s | want to get there sooner or |
| 7842s | later uh Tiger tour one question what is |
| 7846s | your opinion on on Wing Traders and Wing |
| 7848s | trading and high trophy matchmaking how |
| 7851s | you plan to fix it like um it's really |
| 7855s | tricky to tell what's Wing Trader |
| 7858s | exactly because like to understand that |
| 7860s | someone is coordinating this Wing |
| 7862s | through a a third party software already |
| 7865s | is one thing but like someone see like |
| 7868s | for example they see ready and Teddy |
| 7870s | playing against then they're like yay so |
| 7872s | excited I will give this Wing to then |
| 7874s | like is this Wing trading if it's like |
| 7876s | organically from the other thing to give |
| 7878s | this Fring wing of course like we can |
| 7880s | identify patterns and everything thing |
| 7882s | and when we do then we take action and |
| 7884s | we punish the the player but I think |
| 7887s | even in Showdown which is like I think |
| 7888s | is like where people complain about the |
| 7890s | most people team to win because like |
| 7893s | that's the it's like survive right |
| 7895s | survive this and then they use it as |
| 7896s | strategy so I guess like long story |
| 7899s | short when we identify a pattern that |
| 7901s | yeah is a coordinated Wing trading we do |
| 7904s | punish the player but if it happens |
| 7906s | organically it's really hard to tackle |
| 7909s | mhm have you considered just punishing |
| 7911s | in throwing in general yeah I think we |
| 7914s | did some cases of like uh or we we did |
| 7918s | punish people already yeah we acely |
| 7921s | because then it's considered griefing |
| 7922s | right if because you are affecting your |
| 7924s | teammates yeah yeah but yeah we do that |
| 7927s | as well and then the increased amount of |
| 7929s | power points okay we had that yep okay |
| 7932s | tiger t h there's more maybe for now I |
| 7935s | will just answer one questions of the |
| 7937s | ones that answer that question that asks |
| 7940s | multiple questions mhm |
| 7942s | I'm sorry tiger |
| 7944s | Tor uh sir marp is there possibility |
| 7948s | that can we can choose what Lobby music |
| 7950s | you want to play or we want to play in |
| 7952s | the background uh I want to be able to |
| 7954s | listen let's say s of Love blah blah |
| 7955s | blah yeah I think it's like we talked |
| 7959s | about this I think in the past already |
| 7960s | probably we like we all like the idea |
| 7964s | it's it's more of a you know it's |
| 7965s | somewhere on a on a nice to have list |
| 7968s | yeah of something we would like to do at |
| 7969s | a point it's just not a priority because |
| 7971s | it's not that important or impactful yep |
| 7975s | now for Adrian appropriate catch are you |
| 7978s | thinking to rework some hyper charges |
| 7980s | which are bad like Jean Bells Charlie |
| 7984s | Pearl nanis and yeah yeah uh short |
| 7988s | answer yes uh funnily enough jeans and |
| 7990s | bells were actually supposed to be |
| 7991s | switched in the original design what |
| 7993s | yeah true story can we do that no like |
| 7995s | so that was that was yeah that was the |
| 7999s | the original design for them essentially |
| 8000s | homing Je but it but it felt better the |
| 8003s | other way around I love that you loved |
| 8005s | it yeah I know show show him |
| 8009s | your unbiased my tattoo but yeah so we |
| 8013s | want to get through with all hyper |
| 8014s | charges because we're trying a lot of |
| 8015s | experimental stuff as well right and |
| 8017s | once we're done we can go back and go |
| 8019s | like okay which ones don't work and then |
| 8021s | we can deal with those |
| 8024s | cool um Mario YouTuber bloody X for I |
| 8028s | ranked why can't I soft the soft sort |
| 8032s | the browers the way I want ah so like |
| 8034s | it's asking for sorting yeah or like |
| 8036s | pick a favorite kind of like that right |
| 8041s | we did discuss about that we did yeah I |
| 8044s | think the long story short is we feel |
| 8046s | also the pain of trying to find the |
| 8048s | brawler you want in rank um so long |
| 8050s | story short is yes we want to change it |
| 8052s | to be easier we don't know when but |
| 8054s | there is a lot of solutions that we have |
| 8056s | in mind for this yeah maybe could part |
| 8058s | of the bundle of ranked improvements |
| 8060s | exactly yeah mhm uh oh no I can't read |
| 8065s | his name uh that is we can beep it out |
| 8070s | yes yes are you planning to Sol they |
| 8073s | just put like a a blur on his name are |
| 8076s | you planning to solve damage inflation |
| 8078s | the fact that in recent times brers have |
| 8081s | become capable of doing significant more |
| 8083s | damage that they than they could before |
| 8086s | it's destroying game modes like Heist |
| 8089s | great question um and I think this is |
| 8091s | very much a heist specific problem like |
| 8093s | the time to defeat someone is actually |
| 8096s | quite consistent from before because we |
| 8098s | of course Health pools have increased |
| 8099s | and defenses as well but Heist is the |
| 8101s | one thing that |
| 8102s | hasn't yeah so we do have again |
| 8105s | Solutions in mind I can't share any of |
| 8107s | them right now but yes it's on our radar |
| 8110s | from YouTube now um what happened to |
| 8113s | King Frank ah from bringer of boy of boy |
| 8120s | what br I was reading the name bring off |
| 8122s | boy yeah so what happened to King Frank |
| 8125s | he's uh Alive and |
| 8127s | Kicking like there's not right across |
| 8130s | from |
| 8130s | me there's uh |
| 8133s | yeah let proper explain there's there's |
| 8136s | nothing nothing nothing to tell you |
| 8139s | about it yet uh King Frank and The Clash |
| 8143s | Royale pins are waiting to be released |
| 8146s | in a certain way um we thought that that |
| 8149s | moment would come much earlier than it |
| 8152s | will uh since here we are since a few |
| 8155s | updates and it's still unreleased but |
| 8157s | yeah we have we have a plan for for the |
| 8160s | skins and the pins it just hasn't |
| 8163s | happened yet yeah things sometimes take |
| 8166s | a little bit longer than you expect and |
| 8168s | where we're just a bit too fast with the |
| 8171s | content a good problem to have it's a |
| 8173s | good problem I think it's a good problem |
| 8175s | waiting for ah there's a message for us |
| 8177s | the Comm managers if they read thank you |
| 8179s | so much for the efforts with the |
| 8180s | community this podcast so amazing for |
| 8183s | better understanding how the game is |
| 8184s | actually going on behind the scenes it's |
| 8186s | great to have drew on the team awesome |
| 8188s | shout out to Drew tell him that I love |
| 8192s | that I love how has been doing on bro |
| 8194s | talks cool man now I feel that I need to |
| 8197s | read other |
| 8199s | questions fear |
| 8202s | a uh when we will use Swap and Hyper |
| 8206s | chge ever we would why would you think |
| 8209s | so yeah who in the right mind would you |
| 8212s | know we do it only for ready like ready |
| 8215s | will have a special game can I have like |
| 8216s | a special build yeah absolutely no |
| 8218s | worries my my delusion |
| 8222s | build uh run |
| 8225s | set are there any plans for a new rework |
| 8228s | for Mega Pig not a rework maybe some |
| 8230s | improvements but maybe more Club |
| 8232s | activities right |
| 8234s | yes uh it is |
| 8237s | Kika uh what is the most hated brawler |
| 8240s | how can we measur yeah how could you |
| 8242s | yeah like the least played I guess yeah |
| 8245s | but like sounds more like a personal |
| 8248s | thing right yeah personal what do you |
| 8249s | like what is your what what is for you |
| 8252s | guys |
| 8254s | H I think like tick has got to be up |
| 8258s | there like really I I just like I I'm |
| 8261s | just thinking about the amount of like |
| 8263s | frustrating experiences and I feel like |
| 8265s | I would put tick in there just in |
| 8267s | general like you know because there's a |
| 8269s | lot of matchups where it's just annoying |
| 8271s | to have to deal with or or you're like |
| 8273s | too squishy and it starts actually |
| 8275s | dealing a lot of damage to you um I I |
| 8277s | think other very close calls would be uh |
| 8280s | Mo I think in I I love Mo but I think in |
| 8283s | certain matchups it's like what do you |
| 8285s | do and kit has that Vibe sometimes |
| 8288s | too yeah probably Mandy for me honestly |
| 8292s | which is like you know a get good moment |
| 8294s | but but I just find it so unengaging to |
| 8296s | to play against a brawler where the |
| 8298s | entire play style is I'm going to sit |
| 8299s | off your screen and just kind of M toss |
| 8301s | shots wherever I think you're going to |
| 8302s | be and like dude just just play the game |
| 8304s | fight me here's Manny sniped away I feel |
| 8307s | like from a balance perspective or or if |
| 8309s | it happens with bugs it's got to be |
| 8311s | Willow for sure the The NeverEnding pool |
| 8314s | of of issues that's Adrian's most hat |
| 8318s | yeah no it's not actually but you you go |
| 8320s | next okay I don't know I think mik is a |
| 8324s | good great candidate especially because |
| 8326s | I like Piper or |
| 8329s | Mandy and then like when that freaking |
| 8332s | monkey comes at us like ah what can I do |
| 8335s | like then you have to time your attack |
| 8337s | exactly and then if you miss like yeah |
| 8339s | I'm |
| 8341s | dead I mean if I answer this I know it's |
| 8343s | going to be used against me forever |
| 8344s | right |
| 8345s | but I must say like any good Rico player |
| 8348s | on the enemy team makes my blood B |
| 8350s | because I'm getting beat by math right |
| 8352s | it's geometry that's beating me and that |
| 8354s | feels horrible not only like yeah that's |
| 8357s | yeah Rico for me how about you Frank I I |
| 8360s | wouldn't like there's there's really not |
| 8363s | not a roller I hate in principle I think |
| 8367s | but but there's for sure some Brawlers I |
| 8370s | don't like to play against depending on |
| 8372s | the circumstances like I think one one |
| 8374s | standard for me is Bill actually because |
| 8378s | like when you play with randoms ah yeah |
| 8380s | and and you're like you know you you |
| 8383s | play a low hit point braw maybe and then |
| 8386s | your randoms |
| 8388s | keep wanting to be very very close to |
| 8390s | you hug yeah give you a hug and you know |
| 8393s | like I it's like it's infuriating maybe |
| 8396s | not so much because of bell yeah well |
| 8399s | because of the randoms but so your most |
| 8401s | hated brawler is bad randoms yeah fair |
| 8403s | enough fair enough um being TI guy uh |
| 8407s | question about spal make what are you |
| 8409s | actually looking for a for in a skin |
| 8411s | because I've noticed that sometimes the |
| 8413s | winning skin concept will be twed |
| 8415s | slightly when added into the game just |
| 8418s | want to know what makes one skin better |
| 8420s | than the rest yes so purple is |
| 8422s | very no um yeah so like we actually like |
| 8426s | when we are picking the finalists we |
| 8429s | have like always like um what is it a |
| 8432s | bit of like most voted sking so like SKS |
| 8435s | that vote for the community usually |
| 8437s | purple and then the other ones like are |
| 8440s | picked by me and the artists so like |
| 8442s | they pick the ones they really like so |
| 8443s | like there is actually like a balance of |
| 8446s | like uh things that we really like |
| 8448s | personally and then things that the |
| 8449s | community voted for and then we put |
| 8451s | those four as like the final voting for |
| 8453s | the community and then that's |
| 8457s | basically uh then this is dictated by uh |
| 8460s | by voting it's like the the highest |
| 8462s | number of vote gets into the game it's |
| 8465s | like the the times that we actually |
| 8467s | changed the schem it was because we are |
| 8470s | not CH uh the final voting was with the |
| 8473s | original concept now we are already |
| 8475s | redrawing the way that feels more braw |
| 8479s | and then um |
| 8481s | so then once you vote for the sking to |
| 8484s | win it won't change anymore so like it |
| 8487s | was only like in the past where we're |
| 8488s | not like actually redrawing all the skin |
| 8490s | before they go to the final voting then |
| 8492s | before they go to brawl we just like |
| 8494s | adapt how they would be better for the |
| 8497s | game which is usually like toning up the |
| 8499s | colors or making more Vivid or like |
| 8502s | making the shapes more toy like a bit |
| 8504s | more round not like super um square or |
| 8508s | things like that like I think the last |
| 8509s | one that happened was Fang and then |
| 8511s | after that we were redrawing all the |
| 8513s | finalists before it go it goes for the |
| 8516s | final voting yeah often there's |
| 8517s | simplification needed like like normally |
| 8520s | our our skins are like they have a |
| 8523s | specific language when it comes to you |
| 8525s | know the lines and like how they just |
| 8528s | come together without too much detail |
| 8530s | and a lot of Concepts have too much |
| 8532s | detail even like that's not happening |
| 8534s | with only with fan artists by the way |
| 8536s | that also happens internally when |
| 8538s | someone is creating a concept or like |
| 8540s | one of our Partners creat a concept that |
| 8542s | we have to quite often you know go back |
| 8544s | and forth until we find the final thing |
| 8547s | so it's not just with fan artist we |
| 8549s | cannot do that the same way we cannot |
| 8552s | take their time that much so so we do it |
| 8554s | ourselves and get because we normally |
| 8557s | then end up liking those designs right |
| 8559s | we think they're there m so it's just |
| 8562s | yeah a step in |
| 8563s | between cool no error is it possible to |
| 8566s | add a game mode where the New Balance |
| 8568s | changes or brers will be available for |
| 8570s | play testing to get enough data for the |
| 8572s | Casual player base from the Casual |
| 8574s | player base on how fair the changes are |
| 8577s | and how balanced the new brothers are so |
| 8579s | basically like a test build so this is |
| 8582s | interesting so because it says is it |
| 8583s | possible currently no actually we can't |
| 8585s | have like two versions of the game in |
| 8587s | the same game something we want though |
| 8590s | is being able to add let's say balance |
| 8592s | changes on the fly so to speak because |
| 8594s | now as you've noticed whenever we need |
| 8595s | to make balance changes we should need |
| 8597s | to have a maintenance for it in a |
| 8598s | perfect world in the future um I would |
| 8600s | love to see us being able to do that on |
| 8602s | the Fly and when that happens this is |
| 8604s | also possible and I think it's actually |
| 8605s | a pretty good idea well something that |
| 8607s | I've noticed lately is um when I load up |
| 8610s | brawl Stars it says downloading content |
| 8612s | and I see this happen with other games |
| 8614s | where you don't need to download an |
| 8616s | update from the App Store you don't need |
| 8617s | to go through that layer of approval you |
| 8618s | can just get the update that way is that |
| 8620s | one of the systems that would assist |
| 8622s | with this in the future absolutely yes |
| 8624s | yeah the thing is we always had content |
| 8626s | downloads yes it's it's just no we |
| 8630s | instead of seeing the the bar sitting |
| 8631s | there at x% or you know you see the |
| 8634s | number or you don't see the bar moving |
| 8635s | at all now we tell you the actual you |
| 8639s | know it's it's it's it's kind of there's |
| 8641s | not such big of a change there actually |
| 8644s | it's more like no we're visualizing it |
| 8645s | slightly different so you actually see |
| 8647s | that something is happening I see yeah |
| 8649s | because otherwise you can feel stuck |
| 8650s | right and when the bar gets stuck and |
| 8652s | you're like is something happening but |
| 8653s | now you actually see something happening |
| 8655s | and especially in hindsight with for the |
| 8657s | future if we have bigger downloads then |
| 8661s | then without the bar you're like oh |
| 8662s | what's happening I'm did my client die |
| 8664s | whatever so it's like |
| 8667s | yeah um Diego blea like we uh will be CH |
| 8673s | will be changed to the mapmaker in 2024 |
| 8675s | I use it a lot to play with my friends |
| 8678s | and it's so abandoned there won't be |
| 8681s | changes to make map map maker in |
| 8685s | 20124 is like if you you know |
| 8689s | like in the road map |
| 8692s | video in the past and in the future |
| 8696s | we're talking about what's what's our |
| 8698s | focus and everything that's not |
| 8700s | mentioned there is not in our focus and |
| 8703s | map maker even though we actually we're |
| 8704s | all fans of the map maker we we think |
| 8706s | it's like it has tons of potential and |
| 8709s | everything it's also one of these things |
| 8711s | that it's a fairly big project to do |
| 8713s | anything with it and when we do |
| 8715s | something we'd like to do more than just |
| 8717s | add some some different map elements you |
| 8721s | know it needs to be something cool to |
| 8722s | make it more relevant for more people so |
| 8726s | we we'd love to go back to it but not in |
| 8728s | 2024 sweet now we got to Instagram |
| 8732s | questions why does Edgar exist from |
| 8735s | Savas great question yeah it was before |
| 8738s | Adrian so it wasn't his |
| 8739s | [Laughter] |
| 8743s | fault um I can get you the email address |
| 8745s | of the original |
| 8747s | designer forward all of your hate mails |
| 8749s | here yeah exactly |
| 8752s | uh zidi uh voice chat coming |
| 8758s | when never only in the Chinese version |
| 8762s | yeah it's |
| 8763s | uh it's it's something we've we've toyed |
| 8766s | with the idea a few times already but |
| 8769s | it's easier said than done voice chat is |
| 8772s | very complicated in China it's |
| 8774s | relatively easy you have one language |
| 8778s | one language to monitor the same people |
| 8781s | people are identifiable in China you |
| 8784s | know you can only have one account so |
| 8786s | it's it's like there's a lot of security |
| 8789s | security for players in in in China when |
| 8792s | it comes to voice chat in the rest of |
| 8795s | the world this is much more complicated |
| 8797s | you know like we we have like so many |
| 8800s | different languages we support in the |
| 8802s | game it's complicated yeah |
| 8805s | audience yeah the the Comin the issue is |
| 8808s | basically young audience plus so many |
| 8811s | different languages it's like and and |
| 8813s | then you know like you you need to have |
| 8816s | some sort of monitoring to make this |
| 8817s | work and moderation to make this work |
| 8820s | and it's that's very very complicated |
| 8822s | now we we're getting into a time where |
| 8824s | actually AI is is becoming more of a |
| 8827s | viable solution to help us with this |
| 8829s | problem but again it's like easier when |
| 8832s | you have like just one language to cover |
| 8834s | and much harder if you have like 12 15 |
| 8837s | 20 you know our players don't even care |
| 8839s | how many languages we have in the game |
| 8841s | they might still talk in whatever |
| 8842s | language they speak so it's a yeah it's |
| 8845s | super |
| 8846s | complicated player safety super |
| 8848s | important for us and that comes first |
| 8851s | and as long as we don't have a good |
| 8852s | answer on how we would moderate we won't |
| 8855s | release it are those the primary reasons |
| 8858s | it's not in the game or is there also |
| 8860s | just um perhaps from like an artistic |
| 8862s | standpoint for the game no no no |
| 8864s | artistics has nothing to do with it it's |
| 8866s | just you know like if you played other |
| 8869s | games with voice jet you know how how |
| 8872s | toxic it can be uh we have a lot of |
| 8875s | young players it's our job to protect |
| 8878s | them from stuff like this of course you |
| 8880s | can say hey just have voice chat just |
| 8882s | for 16 plus but that's also kind of yeah |
| 8886s | a mess solution yeah and and |
| 8889s | so right now you know we rely on players |
| 8892s | who really want to be in voice chat to |
| 8893s | be in Discord to have FaceTime running |
| 8895s | in the background whatever it is and we |
| 8897s | know all players are doing this so it's |
| 8900s | like |
| 8901s | yeah in a perfect world we could have |
| 8902s | voice chat but that's a perfect world |
| 8904s | that assumes that nobody has ill intent |
| 8907s | and and that's unrealistic to expect so |
| 8909s | first we need to have a solution for |
| 8910s | that and if we find a solution and |
| 8913s | that's a big if then we would have |
| 8914s | potentially voice chat yeah think the |
| 8917s | amount of people that like get scammed |
| 8918s | already like adding voice chat would |
| 8921s | just like make that so |
| 8923s | dangerous um next question is from Ahmed |
| 8927s | is there any chance that some fans who |
| 8929s | make things for the game like |
| 8931s | uh ping Kings Brothers to be hired uh |
| 8934s | like long shot is not that's not the |
| 8938s | best way to be hired of course like |
| 8940s | presenting your portfolio and everything |
| 8942s | like we have a careers page that you can |
| 8943s | go there and uh actually apply for the |
| 8946s | job but we do have like um a couple of |
| 8949s | fun artists that we are actually they |
| 8951s | are working with us true gamer yeah true |
| 8954s | gamer we have Dodges King and Cat Cat |
| 8956s | poke doing |
| 8958s | Concepts um PD uh |
| 8961s | Piper daa Piper de Prim yeah the the |
| 8965s | artist uh they're also doing like |
| 8968s | profile pictures and everything moros |
| 8970s | Mor on the map side so well these guys |
| 8974s | they were like fun uh were doing like |
| 8977s | the is it brow scens was the name of the |
| 8979s | project yeah oh yeah yeah it's like he |
| 8982s | was doing that already and like hey do |
| 8984s | you want to cast our official stuff so |
| 8986s | basically like yeah if you're a passion |
| 8988s | you can work on that and then you make |
| 8989s | your portfolio |
| 8991s | out of the things you love but I think |
| 8993s | it's very rare that this happen like we |
| 8995s | H maybe like six people out of like |
| 8998s | millions of players and millions of |
| 9001s | people who do F out yeah you have to be |
| 9003s | the best and you also have to be very |
| 9006s | lucky it's an intersection of those two |
| 9008s | things in our case we got lucky that we |
| 9010s | were in the right place at the right |
| 9011s | time but we did the right steps to be |
| 9013s | there but you were also good also |
| 9015s | quality has to be good it's not |
| 9020s | all right don't sell yourself short but |
| 9022s | yeah there is a career page like if you |
| 9024s | want to apply and you want to work here |
| 9025s | then you just go there and see if |
| 9027s | there's the you have the requirements |
| 9029s | but but a better way if you really want |
| 9031s | to get in the games industry is actually |
| 9033s | to you know either study in a field that |
| 9036s | gets you closer there um and then to |
| 9040s | work on on in in gaming companies in |
| 9043s | general and most people don't start in a |
| 9045s | company like supercell yeah yeah that's |
| 9047s | that's like it's it's also like most of |
| 9051s | us started in smaller companies and you |
| 9053s | know in Indie Studios and whatever so |
| 9057s | there's there's no one path to this but |
| 9060s | it's very very rare and exceptional that |
| 9063s | you will be hired inside the company |
| 9066s | from being a fan artist yeah so so it's |
| 9069s | almost because it's like you're probably |
| 9072s | fulfilling a niche of a certain things |
| 9074s | you're really good at but when we hire |
| 9077s | artists for example on the inside our |
| 9079s | expectations are |
| 9081s | very very high and so then need to have |
| 9084s | like tons of experience and this goes |
| 9085s | beyond art right it goes be you need to |
| 9088s | be a professional can you deal with |
| 9090s | feedback can you communicate can you |
| 9092s | organize structure you know it's also |
| 9094s | technical right like integrate this into |
| 9096s | the game so for it's many together and |
| 9100s | like draw you don't want to necessarily |
| 9103s | you're not always you're not always in |
| 9104s | love with exactly what you're doing |
| 9106s | there you still need to be professional |
| 9107s | some people need to draw Edgar so that |
| 9109s | is true someone did that I I don't think |
| 9112s | anyone |
| 9116s | Vol I think someone volunteered actually |
| 9118s | to give a glimpse of um how Dy and Cat |
| 9122s | Cat poke got hired like they they are |
| 9125s | like they do skin Concepts and then in |
| 9127s | make they always like release like 10 or |
| 9130s | eight submissions and all of those |
| 9132s | submissions were like top 10 it's like |
| 9135s | they had something that they get what |
| 9137s | the community want right it's like and |
| 9139s | then they really good quality so like |
| 9141s | hey what you like to work on the |
| 9143s | official |
| 9144s | SKS but yeah |
| 9148s | um UGA |
| 9151s | Mark why is the reason to delete |
| 9154s | boxes why did do that we delete boxes I |
| 9158s | can answer quickly because we already |
| 9159s | talked on the first podcast maybe but I |
| 9162s | think we had a vision that like we would |
| 9165s | believe that if you know exactly what |
| 9167s | you're going to get and you just grind |
| 9170s | for it would be a better award for the |
| 9172s | player and for us right so we would like |
| 9174s | get results from that because everyone |
| 9176s | will be excited about it and um we were |
| 9182s | wrong very wrong and you can see like on |
| 9184s | the day you graph like that's when we |
| 9186s | remove boxes that's when the game start |
| 9188s | like uh decrease or like |
| 9191s | underperform uh but there reason that |
| 9194s | because it came from the complaints of |
| 9195s | like I never get the brw I want like and |
| 9198s | good things came from that right so the |
| 9200s | Star Road where we can actually have |
| 9201s | some Agency on the BR you collect came |
| 9204s | from this thought but then we just added |
| 9206s | star drops to still have this um |
| 9209s | exciting reward or the chance of having |
| 9212s | something very excited yeah in the end |
| 9214s | but uh yeah we we fail on the The Vision |
| 9217s | we had we were |
| 9221s | wrong uh why was mag reworked uh few |
| 9224s | times yeah she was unpopular uh people |
| 9227s | didn't like how she played now people |
| 9229s | like her more good why H wait goo Satur |
| 9234s | and then Mora 3D why is Frank bald |
| 9237s | that's an interesting story that's an |
| 9239s | interesting story long time ago you know |
| 9241s | long time ago oh no when many of you |
| 9243s | were not even |
| 9245s | alive uh youth truly when was on the |
| 9249s | military and |
| 9252s | um and so that's like more than 20 years |
| 9257s | ago |
| 9258s | and you you know in the I like luscious |
| 9261s | nice hair a little bit like these fine |
| 9264s | gentlemen here around me not not as much |
| 9266s | as |
| 9267s | Danny and uh you know we spent a lot of |
| 9271s | time in the forest and exercises and |
| 9273s | stuff like that and you know like |
| 9276s | spending 3 weeks in a forest with |
| 9278s | lushous nice hair without a proper |
| 9280s | shower is really not great so I decided |
| 9284s | to shave my hair to the minimum lot |
| 9286s | length in the German military back then |
| 9288s | I'm not sure if it's still like that was |
| 9289s | 6 mm |
| 9290s | so I cut it down to 6 mm and I got used |
| 9293s | to it and uh not long after I left the |
| 9297s | military I still did the 6 mm thing I |
| 9299s | started going to 3 mm and then I was |
| 9301s | like ah now it's time to wet shave what |
| 9303s | if I wet shave exactly and so yeah I |
| 9308s | started liking it and I like myself with |
| 9309s | it here we are more than 20 years later |
| 9312s | I love how much attention we gave to |
| 9314s | these questions you're welcome everyone |
| 9316s | well now we all know the lore origin |
| 9318s | story |
| 9320s | priorities you know finally some |
| 9323s | lore what do you think of Brazil and the |
| 9325s | players who play braw stars I picked |
| 9328s | this question because I like |
| 9331s | Brazil no bias whatsoever do you want to |
| 9334s | answer it in Portuguese |
| 9337s | n no maybe just |
| 9342s | like but uh I think I like Brazil I |
| 9345s | think they're very passion of people uh |
| 9348s | like the sports in Brazil like it's so |
| 9350s | crazy like you see like the the players |
| 9352s | doing all those crazy stuff like they |
| 9354s | Spider-Man or they always try to put |
| 9357s | like some costumes and things and they |
| 9359s | are very what is it not emotional but |
| 9363s | like passionate passionate about the |
| 9365s | things they do uh but then the passion |
| 9369s | goes also to the other side because like |
| 9371s | anything that like if you feel like when |
| 9374s | we relas for example I King |
| 9377s | to Piper no no to the the Harvest Moon |
| 9381s | Festival for Mandy they like ah why you |
| 9383s | doing that for Korea we Brazilians need |
| 9385s | more representation and they're like man |
| 9387s | there's like many countries in this |
| 9388s | world like like we can do this reference |
| 9392s | here and there we don't need like to |
| 9394s | always every time we have asking for |
| 9396s | some country we have also in Brazil but |
| 9399s | then we did do the carnival what is it |
| 9403s | flag bearer Piper mhm because we do |
| 9406s | think they Reserve their representation |
| 9409s | and then I was how involved I was I |
| 9411s | think someone just said like what do you |
| 9413s | think and say yeah that that's my was my |
| 9415s | contribution to my |
| 9418s | country proud of you D that was from Edo |
| 9420s | Lopez but yeah it would be it would be I |
| 9422s | think like when whenever we |
| 9425s | see like like streams from Esports |
| 9428s | events in in Brazil I mean like the the |
| 9432s | passion is just undeniable and it's just |
| 9433s | really cool to see but I would I would |
| 9436s | love us to be at some point in Brazil |
| 9437s | and and have an event can I say that but |
| 9439s | we are going to be in BG bgs Brazil game |
| 9443s | show is said so yeah I mean we brawl |
| 9446s | Stars if you want to go you can go but |
| 9450s | so yeah there there's that and also |
| 9452s | something I'm not sure how widely that |
| 9453s | is known but we have a bunch of |
| 9455s | Brazilians on the |
| 9456s | team |
| 9459s | what so so yeah you know like this |
| 9462s | Fernando is creating the characters who |
| 9463s | was on one of these podcasts she's |
| 9465s | obviously from Brazil and we have a |
| 9467s | bunch of other Brazilians on the team |
| 9469s | who who work on bra stuff all the time |
| 9472s | yeah cool uh Miguel 13 why did you |
| 9476s | remove the hypercharge event could it |
| 9478s | come back in the future good question |
| 9482s | why did we remove it we removed it |
| 9485s | because it wasn't fun it's like it it |
| 9488s | delivered the goods but people really |
| 9490s | just played it to to get the goods and |
| 9494s | that was not the reason why we made it |
| 9495s | in the first place so for us it was like |
| 9498s | Hey this could be a really cool engaging |
| 9500s | moment for everyone yeah where you can |
| 9501s | try out the new hyper charges and you |
| 9503s | can have fun with it and you can |
| 9504s | experiment you know uh didn't happen but |
| 9507s | it wasn't so that's why we stopped them |
| 9511s | yeah and then as we said before like now |
| 9513s | we get those opportunity of giving |
| 9516s | resources and then we put in the |
| 9517s | community events where we actually drive |
| 9519s | more players and like we make a bigger |
| 9521s | deal out of that so the hypercharge |
| 9522s | event wasn't doing anything for us mhm |
| 9525s | and also what creating creating problems |
| 9527s | like I think the the last change uh we |
| 9530s | did didn't work but when we did work we |
| 9533s | didn't see any results but so I guess |
| 9535s | the the main point there is even though |
| 9537s | we removed the event the resources |
| 9539s | didn't get removed it just they just got |
| 9541s | switched to other things yeah we are not |
| 9543s | giving the helper charge directly yes |
| 9545s | but we are giving the value like for |
| 9547s | example right after we did we did this |
| 9549s | change we did the thumbs up for bra it |
| 9552s | gave like five legendary start drops on |
| 9554s | in one goal and then actually it's very |
| 9557s | very likely that one of those will be a |
| 9559s | hyper |
| 9560s | charge |
| 9563s | um Heavens to |
| 9567s | evens uh a couple of UI changes I've |
| 9569s | been curious about could you get a Wi-Fi |
| 9572s | interrupted Icon by a player's name when |
| 9575s | they are having connection issues that |
| 9578s | way we know they are not getting |
| 9579s | griefing ah they're not griefing they |
| 9581s | are just getting this uh |
| 9584s | disconnected interesting it's an |
| 9586s | interesting thought because it has pros |
| 9588s | and cons right like it's good for your |
| 9590s | team to know that someone is DC but it's |
| 9592s | also good for the enemy team to know |
| 9594s | that someone is DC I think maybe just |
| 9595s | the teammates would know yeah I mean |
| 9597s | yeah you could do that right if it's |
| 9598s | just the teammates um but it's still |
| 9601s | would you like to know that yeah exactly |
| 9602s | would you like to know no but it's an |
| 9605s | interesting idea I don't think we've |
| 9606s | actually talked about it too much so |
| 9608s | it's it's a nice thought is this maybe |
| 9610s | an area worth exploring or that you guys |
| 9613s | have discussed before uh the idea of |
| 9615s | having like more communication that |
| 9617s | would not be voice chat or text chat |
| 9619s | just like yeah shortcuts to like swap |
| 9621s | Lanes rette yeah for sure I think it was |
| 9624s | really cool I think a while ago in |
| 9626s | Reddit there was the idea with the pins |
| 9628s | of like lanes and stuff I think that was |
| 9629s | really cool but again we have to |
| 9631s | understand that that's very niche as |
| 9632s | well like only the more engaged players |
| 9635s | even know what a lane is as a concept |
| 9638s | right so we have to think a bit more |
| 9640s | about that um but yes something would be |
| 9643s | cool and then the last two questions |
| 9645s | George valadares what was the point in n |
| 9649s | hypercharge you could at least make it |
| 9651s | go through |
| 9653s | walls I I don't know I mean I thought it |
| 9655s | was cool to have peep go bigger so you |
| 9657s | can actually hit it properly um but if |
| 9660s | you're unhappy with it maybe yeah we |
| 9662s | should make it go through walls and add |
| 9663s | some popcorn but I don't know if the the |
| 9667s | walls would make sense right no I'm |
| 9670s | kidding but yeah I yeah there is there |
| 9673s | is other cool stuff we could do with it |
| 9675s | as well for sure |
| 9676s | yeah like we actually like on on the |
| 9679s | note of hyper we we we're looking at how |
| 9681s | hyper JS perform and one one of the |
| 9684s | criteria to measure that is like how |
| 9686s | many people want one of those |
| 9688s | hyperchargers actually and |
| 9691s | so yeah yeah and also that's one way and |
| 9694s | also the way I look at the balance of it |
| 9697s | is what is the Delta so meaning what is |
| 9698s | your win rate with the hypercharge on |
| 9700s | dis brawler versus those that do not |
| 9703s | because then it's like okay how strong |
| 9704s | is this hypercharge actually for this |
| 9706s | brawler and that's a good measurement as |
| 9708s | well to see like okay is it a perception |
| 9710s | thing or is it actually a thing mhm and |
| 9713s | then the last question from Fila ding |
| 9715s | the next bro talk will be a mermaid |
| 9717s | again yes please I don't think I will |
| 9720s | ever be a mermaid again why not |
| 9722s | wow strong |
| 9725s | statement is that we end in a sad note |
| 9729s | oh no please okay okay maybe maybe I can |
| 9732s | be a mermaid again let's see um but yeah |
| 9735s | we've been through all the questions |
| 9737s | thank you so much Teddy thank you so |
| 9738s | much ready thank you gentlemen guys like |
| 9740s | to say anything before like last words a |
| 9744s | little self-promo yeah sure that works |
| 9747s | you want go first Teddy yeah well you |
| 9749s | can find me anywhere twitch Twitter or X |
| 9753s | Teddy casts um yeah I'm sure it's going |
| 9755s | to be written somewhere anyway I like to |
| 9758s | stream anything Esports related so if |
| 9760s | you guys want to get into that or |
| 9762s | already are then uh come check me out |
| 9764s | and and I mean we both have Creator |
| 9765s | codes so code ready code Teddy yeah you |
| 9768s | guys can support us M yeah I'm ready set |
| 9771s | on Twitch you can find me on Twitter at |
| 9773s | ready setgo with foros which should |
| 9775s | probably look look look you know Ready |
| 9778s | Set was taken and also o and O it's an o |
| 9782s | o o yes for foros if you want to find me |
| 9786s | there but on Twitch um I do something |
| 9789s | very similar to Teddy where I stream |
| 9791s | tournaments and I even run some of my |
| 9792s | own I'm planning some big stuff coming |
| 9794s | up so if you want to see some high |
| 9796s | production uh you know third party |
| 9798s | Grassroots brly sport SPS twitch.tv/ ret |
| 9801s | cool thank you so much and thank you of |
| 9803s | course Frank and Adrian also do you want |
| 9805s | to give any last words no last words |
| 9808s | from me thank you very much why are you |
| 9809s | wearing a Heyday shirt I love heyday |
| 9812s | heyday is great Heyday is great no no |
| 9814s | thank you for everyone playing thanks |
| 9816s | for playing guys thank you and thank you |
| 9817s | for all the crew here yes thank you this |
| 9821s | by bye bye bye bye |
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