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| 5s | hello everyone and it's time to explain |
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| 7s | and today we are going to talk about is |
| 10s | BR becoming paying what's going on with |
| 12s | the balance uh how about some economy |
| 15s | nerves and Community drama because I |
| 18s | know you guys want to hear drama so |
| 19s | we'll talk about drama but I'll will |
| 22s | follow like a quick script here just so |
| 23s | I can uh so everyone understands what |
| 25s | they should do when they're watching the |
| 27s | podcast if you're watching from YouTube |
| 29s | you can jump uh through the chapters so |
| 31s | then you can see the questions we are |
| 33s | talking about and then they are all in |
| 34s | the description so if they want to hear |
| 36s | the whole thing just go to the question |
| 38s | you want and then tap there uh I also |
| 41s | recommend watching in |
| 44s | 1.5 really it's it change life changing |
| 47s | productivity hack from D yes um and also |
| 51s | check the previous podcast because |
| 52s | there's a lot of questions we already |
| 54s | answered and I saw like the questions |
| 56s | that you guys are asking today or like |
| 58s | when I post this thing are actually |
| 60s | already answered |
| 62s | before um but yeah this episode |
| 66s | exclusively will have a lot of things on |
| 68s | screen you might not want to leisten on |
| 70s | Spotify uh so we show a lot of data |
| 73s | graphs very fun stuff yes people yeah |
| 76s | yeah fun |
| 78s | absolutely but today we have familiar |
| 80s | faces again we have Jeff game designer |
| 83s | of the bring do you want to say hi to |
| 85s | then hello yeah that's |
| 88s | it then we have Adrian also game |
| 91s | designer of the brow te |
| 94s | hello and Frank |
| 98s | hello I'm not I'm the Untitled yeah you |
| 101s | literally have no title I'm janitor and |
| 103s | R |
| 105s | yeah team |
| 108s | lead that's not even My |
| 110s | Title Say their wrong title matter |
| 114s | doesn't matter the the new title nobody |
| 117s | understand we have to explain the whole |
| 119s | context no no no no let's not go there |
| 121s | let's not go |
| 122s | there so why we are want why we want to |
| 126s | present those graphs today it's because |
| 128s | like uh the problem we believe that we |
| 131s | have when we're talking about um game or |
| 134s | like what's happening behind the |
| 135s | industry is because people or players |
| 137s | complain about something that they are |
| 139s | experiencing the game but they don't |
| 141s | understand the reasoning right or they |
| 142s | don't understand the context is has been |
| 145s | uh made and uh we I would believe that |
| 149s | if any player would spend one week with |
| 152s | us they would change their mind it's |
| 154s | just because like they would consume so |
| 156s | much knowledge of like decisions and |
| 159s | discussions and everything so what we |
| 161s | want to put here out today is put some |
| 164s | context so everything we are talking |
| 166s | about will have like um some background |
| 169s | so it's not like coming out of just like |
| 171s | our wordss or anything everything has |
| 173s | like a um a ground uh data to back it up |
| 178s | um and then we have like I actually I |
| 181s | can already start showing some graphs oh |
| 185s | missed opportunity we should have all |
| 186s | wore our suits or |
| 187s | something there are questions related |
| 190s | data and Suits data and Suits |
| 194s | so look at this beautiful graph I mean |
| 197s | look at some declining moments so here |
| 201s | is like our da which means daily active |
| 204s | users and you can see like this is like |
| 207s | from December to to day I think no |
| 211s | actually yesterday yeah yeah yeah |
| 213s | yesterday yesterday actually we didn't |
| 215s | get |
| 216s | the the Sunday and Saturday numbers |
| 220s | maybe because then it will be even |
| 222s | higher yeah anyway so like here December |
| 225s | like we had the BR days we remove boxes |
| 227s | it was a big deal in the community but |
| 230s | then there was also there was also in |
| 233s | the mission the Omega box event oh yeah |
| 235s | the Omega box event yeah yeah this is |
| 237s | like early |
| 238s | December uh |
| 241s | 2022 but then you can see our daily |
| 244s | active users are rapidly declining right |
| 247s | and you can really easy spot spot the |
| 249s | trend there until we release the stard |
| 253s | drops update and you can see how clear |
| 256s | they stop um at least the trend wasn't |
| 259s | so harsh right I'd actually underline |
| 262s | again like small intermission here but |
| 265s | normally what we see in summer is that |
| 268s | there's a drop in the auu because people |
| 270s | go on vacation believe it or not and so |
| 274s | we expected even after the star drops |
| 276s | that the numbers would go down probably |
| 278s | faster than normally in an update |
| 281s | cycle and we were pretty surprised to |
| 283s | see that this this graph there became |
| 286s | more flat so that's was the first |
| 289s | surprise I think so there's still a |
| 291s | decline after the update yeah but it's |
| 293s | much slower even though we expect |
| 296s | expected a steeper decline yeah so I |
| 298s | think I think bit a bit counter |
| 300s | intuitive right because I think for most |
| 302s | games that have a bit older audience you |
| 305s | know summer usually means play more |
| 307s | games for our audience a lot of people |
| 310s | end up playing in school with their |
| 311s | friends during school right so H summer |
| 314s | actually means they're actually playing |
| 317s | braw less because they're not with their |
| 318s | friends yeah so even with those |
| 322s | uh even with those conditions that would |
| 324s | be which should affect us negatively is |
| 327s | actually our numbers uh were uh managed |
| 330s | to sustain the DU quite uh well um and |
| 334s | then we have the hypercharge which was a |
| 337s | bit uh controversal update I think the |
| 339s | first hyper charge they weren't as |
| 340s | exciting as we thought they would be |
| 342s | also remove the game modes because like |
| 345s | if you see like this trend going down |
| 346s | and like your du is um being affected by |
| 349s | that removing the game slots that you |
| 352s | have would actually in theory would help |
| 355s | matchmaking right cuz like then it's |
| 357s | more accurate uh it would be faster but |
| 359s | then we see like nothing really |
| 361s | change and we also see our retention |
| 365s | declining |
| 367s | so uh like but it's still the numbers |
| 370s | weren't as bad as like uh the masteries |
| 372s | and the blink uh |
| 374s | update uh but then like in the middle of |
| 377s | the Season we had this uh shooting star |
| 379s | drop event which was basically just um |
| 383s | like take down enemies to get St drops |
| 387s | um and then we can see there's a Spike |
| 390s | that's the legendary uh star drop day |
| 393s | but then you can see that after the |
| 394s | event ended that like there's nothing |
| 396s | else uh to do after the event but then |
| 399s | the players stay there so like what we |
| 402s | um trying to show here is that the stard |
| 405s | drop update it kind of like fixed |
| 407s | something on retention like so the |
| 410s | players that are coming in to see to |
| 411s | experience the game they're staying um |
| 414s | and I think yeah it's like the the |
| 416s | turning point I think it's how we |
| 419s | managed to grow the game again and then |
| 422s | you can see the trend from up there like |
| 424s | we added Mega Peak chroman no more uh |
| 427s | chrom more is event the Broly day is I |
| 429s | think that's the mik |
| 431s | day or it's either moik or is the sking |
| 434s | but I think it's moiko yeah I think so |
| 436s | yeah and then from the brought together |
| 438s | and on it's like just growing and |
| 441s | yesterday we actually was it like the |
| 445s | the highest number of players we had |
| 447s | since Global or since forever day yeah |
| 450s | so like we actually beat our record on a |
| 453s | 5-year-old game which is pretty |
| 455s | impressive like and this is like in the |
| 457s | course of one |
| 458s | year so like uh we like we we hear like |
| 464s | play uh what people are saying out out |
| 466s | there on social media but the changes we |
| 469s | are doing are making something with the |
| 471s | game right and to have like this uh |
| 474s | Ascension in one year for a game that is |
| 477s | 5 year old is pretty impressive like I |
| 480s | think |
| 481s | um like I wouldn't change anything to to |
| 485s | to be the place we are now right I |
| 487s | wouldn't like maybe I not remove the |
| 489s | boxes completely but uh or maybe it di |
| 492s | the star drops to replace boxes on that |
| 494s | update but um but yeah I think it |
| 497s | was for this four months of learning CU |
| 501s | we remove the Box we see the results and |
| 502s | then we quickly adapt stard drops was |
| 504s | not even part of the yearly plan right |
| 507s | we added no they were not uh um when we |
| 510s | entered the year we had masteries and |
| 512s | The Bling update those were planned and |
| 515s | we had plans for other updates |
| 518s | afterwards but but when we saw that the |
| 521s | trend was still going down this is this |
| 524s | is like this this graph just shows the |
| 527s | the actual daily active players right |
| 529s | yeah but what what you can see on this |
| 532s | graph is the the retention retention is |
| 535s | measured in the games industry in like |
| 537s | typically terms like D1 to to D30 D60 |
| 541s | D90 and the d stands for day and that |
| 544s | means how many what is the percentage of |
| 546s | people who come in on Day Zero are still |
| 548s | sticking around with your game on day |
| 551s | one day 30 day 60 day 360 whatever it is |
| 556s | and for us day one doesn't mean much |
| 559s | that just means you're logging in the |
| 560s | day after you came to the game for us |
| 563s | what's more important is like the |
| 564s | long-term retention the tail the |
| 567s | D30 and and that number did not improve |
| 571s | in those updates yeah in fact that |
| 573s | number from the from before the removal |
| 576s | of the mega boxes actually I have this |
| 579s | graph here wow oh wow so du doesn't |
| 583s | change much but the3 you can see the |
| 586s | Ascension uh there as |
| 589s | well yeah that is that is you guys |
| 591s | didn't even plan |
| 593s | that no but he actually he didn't |
| 595s | actually saw the the graph so actually |
| 597s | yeah he didn't it was a good seg yeah |
| 600s | yeah not scripted |
| 603s | yeah |
| 605s | um but yeah but I still want to go back |
| 608s | to this so like there is like a here is |
| 611s | Google Trends it's like public so you |
| 613s | can actually type brw stars and uh see |
| 616s | our results there uh you can see like |
| 619s | when we remove boxes it was like a big |
| 621s | deal in the industry right because it |
| 623s | was a it was reaching outside the bubble |
| 625s | like a game that is removing uh boxes or |
| 629s | got |
| 630s | it's a big deal uh but then the trend |
| 634s | kind of like follow pretty much the same |
| 636s | as our DU and I to make it clear look at |
| 639s | that Frank Frank would be surprised you |
| 640s | guys saw already but look at this wow I |
| 644s | crossed the |
| 645s | graphs |
| 647s | wow but then like the what I'm my point |
| 649s | is here is that the trend is pretty much |
| 652s | similar right you can see like the |
| 654s | decline even like the star drop update |
| 656s | that there's a small retention |
| 659s | Improvement there like it was of course |
| 661s | it was more impactful in the game but |
| 663s | then you can see the Ascension uh back |
| 666s | and of course this is only YouTube so |
| 668s | like it's not uh super accurate but you |
| 671s | can see that the trends kind of like |
| 673s | follow no this graph actually shows the |
| 675s | web search not YouTube oh yeah web |
| 677s | search yeah Google Trends not uh YouTube |
| 680s | I think you know the previous months was |
| 684s | really needed for us to kind of look at |
| 686s | things and take the learnings and I |
| 689s | think one of the conclusions maybe and I |
| 692s | think the analogy that I like to use is |
| 694s | like you know in Imagine playing diblo |
| 698s | and you're the game tells you you're |
| 700s | going to get your next legendary drop |
| 703s | after killing 10,000 monsters yeah like |
| 706s | that feels not that fun right and I |
| 709s | think star drop just kind of adds that |
| 712s | level of excitement to every game win or |
| 715s | every few game wins every day and that's |
| 718s | kind of what brings up some of the core |
| 720s | retention for the game yeah yeah that's |
| 722s | a good call out because I was just |
| 723s | explaining what how it what it fix but |
| 727s | why did it fix that right yeah yeah it |
| 729s | makes like playing every day more |
| 731s | rewarding more exciting there's |
| 733s | something on uh on the line uh when |
| 736s | you're opening your game every |
| 738s | day uh should you go like to the |
| 741s | questions and then I open the graph when |
| 743s | yeah why don't we just look at the da |
| 746s | graph one more |
| 748s | time pretty graph we are really proud of |
| 750s | that achievement by the way it's a |
| 752s | pretty graph it's a very pretty graph |
| 754s | yeah enough graphs for now uh now let's |
| 758s | talk about drama because I know players |
| 760s | are so excited about drama right more |
| 762s | excited than |
| 764s | me my Sizzle |
| 767s | sound so recently we had removed a |
| 770s | Creator uh code from a Creator because |
| 773s | he had leaked no NDA information NDA |
| 776s | stands for non-disclosure uh |
| 780s | agreement I think so yeah so it's p |
| 784s | confidential information |
| 786s | basically um but yeah you can take it |
| 789s | away yeah I think it's it's like you |
| 792s | know it's always a challenging situation |
| 794s | um when when we have a situation like |
| 796s | this specifically because ultimately |
| 799s | it's a breaching the NDA in this case is |
| 801s | like a it's a breach of trust that's |
| 803s | what it really is uh we have the slack |
| 806s | Channel where a lot of the content |
| 808s | creators are |
| 810s | um the higher you are in the creater |
| 812s | program the closer you are to us means |
| 814s | you are very much exposed to our work |
| 816s | how what we write Etc so you have a lot |
| 818s | of |
| 819s | context and we give you that context in |
| 822s | in this safe space so and to keep it a |
| 826s | safe space there needs to be trust if |
| 829s | someone is sharing something from the |
| 831s | space not necessarily even from us but |
| 833s | even from another content creator out of |
| 835s | context out there that's a problem uh |
| 838s | and then the trust is broken and we have |
| 840s | to take some action I think that's a |
| 842s | that's a summary of this really yeah and |
| 844s | just to add like uh as you said like |
| 846s | sharing something out of context to add |
| 849s | context to this case so we had already |
| 852s | the it was like a a thing about Larry |
| 856s | and Lori so we had already The Proposal |
| 858s | Nerf publicly to public to then like it |
| 861s | was in already in the chat uh and we had |
| 863s | said already that we are working on it |
| 865s | and then we don't have a date for that |
| 867s | and then it was uh when it was question |
| 870s | um why is not coming so quickly I |
| 873s | responded why it's not happening so |
| 876s | quickly like so that all this |
| 877s | information was there and even though |
| 879s | like so like if you leak something out |
| 880s | of context it can create a lot of |
| 882s | problem unnecessary problem basically Dr |
| 885s | yeah drama yeah um but yeah so in |
| 891s | summary we are not firing |
| 896s | Adan it's a nice segue what yeah |
| 899s | yeah but uh yeah I guess like uh the |
| 903s | first question is about balance uh but |
| 905s | then we can just like touch on this |
| 907s | thing that it becomes like a big deal on |
| 910s | the Spanish community and then leaked |
| 911s | for other countries as well like don't |
| 914s | be don't be this person like first I |
| 917s | just show like our da increase which is |
| 920s | like something super unique in the |
| 922s | industry and he wouldn't have achieved |
| 924s | that without ad in the team because like |
| 926s | he's not doing like just balancing that |
| 928s | character like this creating uh |
| 931s | characters creating a game play uh |
| 933s | design and everything it's like those |
| 935s | numbers that like I don't know which |
| 938s | other game has achieved that in the |
| 940s | industry in like a in this time period |
| 944s | um it's only possible because it's part |
| 947s | of the team so we're really happy to |
| 949s | have you here Adrian thank you thank I |
| 952s | think it's I think it's also really |
| 954s | worth pointing out that what you see out |
| 957s | there is a a few people like like us um |
| 960s | so the community maners of course Adrian |
| 963s | is out there willingly so I didn't force |
| 965s | him uh Jeff joined these podcast also |
| 969s | totally not forced forced me a bit a bit |
| 972s | forced a bit forced a bit forced maybe |
| 974s | but but I guess what I want to say is |
| 976s | like most of us choose to be on social |
| 978s | media and so we become the visible faces |
| 981s | of the game |
| 983s | naturally um and it's not like the |
| 987s | people you see on social media are the |
| 989s | ones who are executing and doing all the |
| 992s | things you think we're doing right the |
| 994s | brers team now is 46 people big we're |
| 997s | still growing this year we by the end of |
| 998s | the year probably be 60 and that's only |
| 1001s | the people who are working on it |
| 1002s | directly not not to talk about all the |
| 1005s | partners we have on the outside um so |
| 1008s | like there's never only one person |
| 1010s | responsible for one thing it's always a |
| 1012s | discussion so Adrian is not by himself |
| 1015s | you know sitting at his computer hacking |
| 1017s | away on the balancing |
| 1019s | um so it's it is a team thing so if you |
| 1023s | want to hate it's it's easy to hate on |
| 1025s | him because he's out there so he's a |
| 1027s | lightning rod but but in in Practical |
| 1030s | reality it's never like this there's |
| 1031s | multiple people working on balancing |
| 1033s | there's multiple people who are working |
| 1035s | on every single thing we do so singling |
| 1038s | out someone and and unloading you hate |
| 1040s | is just not okay and I think I think it |
| 1043s | needs to be set out there so it's you |
| 1046s | know it's a team thing you can hate on |
| 1047s | the team you can disagree on what we're |
| 1049s | doing how we're doing it that's fine but |
| 1051s | um yeah don't become |
| 1054s | personal yeah yeah and then we have a a |
| 1057s | good segue for that because the first |
| 1059s | question is about balancing from Ash |
| 1061s | what I'm really interested in knowing is |
| 1063s | how did the dominance of Larry and Lori |
| 1066s | affected the game in terms of player |
| 1068s | metrix we hear all the negative sides to |
| 1071s | it on social media with many players |
| 1072s | expressing how they are unable to enjoy |
| 1074s | the game but I would like to hear the |
| 1076s | other side the positive side for example |
| 1078s | did the new brawler boost player |
| 1081s | activity it's a good question yeah um |
| 1084s | and I think I mean there's many answers |
| 1085s | to it but I think the the first and |
| 1087s | foremost whenever there's an exciting |
| 1088s | broader release and if it's a little bit |
| 1090s | on the strong side even too strong |
| 1092s | sometimes it will create waves in the |
| 1094s | community yeah um doesn't mean we want |
| 1096s | to make them strong to make waves there |
| 1099s | is a fine line to tow there and I think |
| 1101s | it's easy to like it's fine to say at |
| 1103s | this point that Larry and Lori |
| 1104s | definitely to too strong on release you |
| 1106s | know I think we can all agree on that |
| 1108s | cuz I think you can achieve the |
| 1110s | excitement without you know a ludicrous |
| 1113s | power level for sure um but the long |
| 1116s | story short this is absolutely there is |
| 1118s | waves created whenever we release an |
| 1120s | exciting brawler yeah can you maybe say |
| 1122s | a word or two on how we're balancing |
| 1123s | Brawlers absolutely there's a question |
| 1125s | for that maybe okay yeah we can come |
| 1127s | back to it we'll get back to it but then |
| 1130s | I think like uh like what we call what |
| 1133s | we think it's an emergency right |
| 1135s | emergency is like when you use a super |
| 1137s | jeans super and the game crashes this is |
| 1140s | an emergency that's an e cuz you're |
| 1141s | preventing the player to play the game |
| 1143s | right yes um and then I I was actually |
| 1146s | like when Lori and Lai was the the top I |
| 1148s | was actually mastering my Mandy I almost |
| 1150s | got there like go to with proud um with |
| 1154s | pride but |
| 1155s | um I was never playing triple lri and |
| 1158s | Lori but every match has a lri in mying |
| 1162s | and a Lori on the other team it's still |
| 1164s | balanced right it's just like because |
| 1166s | usually your your own l |
| 1170s | sucks wait are you blaming bad randoms D |
| 1173s | is this what's happening okay no I |
| 1174s | actually got a lot of progress playing |
| 1176s | with randoms during the lry and lry |
| 1178s | phase so like what I'm saying like I was |
| 1180s | at 800 trophies below me nobody was |
| 1183s | actually seeing the problems that we see |
| 1185s | in social media which Like tripol Larry |
| 1187s | and Lori because this is like if you are |
| 1189s | above I don't know 900 or a thousand uh |
| 1192s | so that's when we think like it's not |
| 1195s | affecting most of our players it's only |
| 1197s | affecting the the high L engaged players |
| 1200s | and they can survive for another week |
| 1204s | with this and then also like I don't |
| 1206s | think we have a question for that but |
| 1207s | usually in maintenance we try to group a |
| 1209s | lot of um bugs because we don't want to |
| 1211s | have a lot of Maintenance right |
| 1213s | maintenance is like shutting down the |
| 1214s | game for everyone which means that it's |
| 1217s | a big door for the competitors right ah |
| 1220s | this game is not working let's play the |
| 1221s | other one and then maybe this player is |
| 1223s | never coming back so like we want to |
| 1225s | minimize maintenance as much as we can |
| 1228s | um and then every bug we have is like oh |
| 1232s | when for example I think we we discussed |
| 1234s | like should we have a maintance for Lori |
| 1236s | and Larry but there is nothing else to |
| 1238s | fix and like yeah can we like group all |
| 1240s | the bugs we can in this uh time frame so |
| 1243s | at least we make like more more use of |
| 1245s | this maintenance M and that's why |
| 1247s | waiting it was not even two weeks it was |
| 1250s | one and a half something yeah yeah uh |
| 1254s | it's it's fine we everyone can survive I |
| 1257s | think there was a a few compounding |
| 1259s | issues right so Larry and Lori were |
| 1263s | strong too strong and we |
| 1265s | agree um now that we have the data it's |
| 1268s | easy to say that in hindsight yes um but |
| 1271s | at the same time also I mean you saw the |
| 1273s | diu graph there yeah so we are what we |
| 1275s | are seeing at the moment is is |
| 1277s | essentially |
| 1278s | unprecedented concurrent users in |
| 1280s | broadstar so we we are like you know in |
| 1284s | the past we had maybe when we released |
| 1286s | Edgar I think we had a a higher number |
| 1288s | of concurrent users for one |
| 1291s | day um but now for a consistent period |
| 1294s | of weeks we are we are coming to the |
| 1297s | office and there's more than in the |
| 1299s | morning hours Europe and there's more |
| 1301s | than a million people online right now |
| 1304s | that's the low moments of our game at |
| 1306s | the moment and |
| 1308s | so so it's like we have to get used as a |
| 1313s | team to these numbers as well to a |
| 1314s | degree which sounds crazy but it's a |
| 1316s | case because we haven't experienced that |
| 1318s | in a while and so to make sure that the |
| 1321s | servers operate properly for you out |
| 1323s | there we we can tweak matchmaking |
| 1326s | criteria we can tweak how accurate the |
| 1329s | matchmaking is and one of the the |
| 1332s | vectors there one of the directions you |
| 1333s | can tweak the matchmaking is when you |
| 1337s | allow duplicate Brawlers yeah so so |
| 1341s | because so many people had Larry and |
| 1343s | Lori because it's an epic brother yeah |
| 1345s | right so a lot of people got access to |
| 1347s | him very early on either in Early Access |
| 1349s | of or of course right |
| 1352s | afterwards uh before the new braw pass |
| 1354s | season |
| 1355s | launched and there were just so many |
| 1357s | people playing Larry and Lori that |
| 1359s | matchmaking was really slow and then we |
| 1363s | we reduced the amount of time it needs |
| 1366s | until we allow more Brawlers to be |
| 1369s | duplicates and and so that fixed the |
| 1372s | matchmaking issues so matchmaking was |
| 1375s | fast again people could actually play |
| 1377s | but on the on the the other side of |
| 1379s | course when you already have a strong |
| 1381s | brawler and all of a sudden you have |
| 1383s | three of them in the enemy team that |
| 1385s | doesn't feel great yeah it still was a |
| 1388s | problem isolated to maybe the higher |
| 1392s | ranks of our players not to everyone |
| 1394s | yeah so but it's it's a super difficult |
| 1397s | balance to strike for us and um yeah if |
| 1400s | we have to decide whether people can |
| 1402s | actually play the game or not we will |
| 1404s | probably do it again and we would do it |
| 1407s | again but not intentionally not |
| 1410s | intentionally good to point that yeah |
| 1412s | maybe to to kind of expand on it a |
| 1414s | little bit like if you think about when |
| 1415s | we have a really strong op brawler like |
| 1418s | it's actually pretty exciting right like |
| 1420s | you tell your friends like oh my God |
| 1421s | there's a new brawler and he's like |
| 1422s | broken like everybody kind of rushes to |
| 1425s | the game to get them to more views the |
| 1427s | content right yeah and you can see it |
| 1429s | like to answer the question directly |
| 1430s | yeah the the metrics did go up right but |
| 1432s | imagine playing like you know age of Age |
| 1435s | of Empire is probably too old maybe like |
| 1437s | Starcraft um |
| 1438s | also pretty old pretty old okay |
| 1440s | Starcraft 2 like imagine playing that |
| 1443s | and like you type in cheats right that's |
| 1445s | like really fun but for like an hour |
| 1447s | right and it's like ex it's like it's |
| 1449s | not in fun anymore right so it's like we |
| 1452s | like want brawl stars to grow for many |
| 1455s | many years so like we don't we're not |
| 1457s | trying to purposefully do this yeah like |
| 1460s | hey it happens once in a while and hey |
| 1462s | look numbers look good this time but |
| 1464s | like we obviously don't want to do it |
| 1466s | every single cuz you know what going to |
| 1467s | happen |
| 1468s | it's not good long term right so when |
| 1470s | you say once in a while you know it just |
| 1472s | I guess it felt it felt |
| 1475s | like I I mean I I I think it's fair to |
| 1479s | say that Charlie was too strong yes for |
| 1481s | sure so so we we went from Charlie to |
| 1485s | moik the kid the kid but K moiko is okay |
| 1489s | moik is fine m moiko is okay because |
| 1491s | people haven't figured out how to play |
| 1493s | him yet yeah he also had the power |
| 1495s | scaling issue in Showdown so yeah anyway |
| 1498s | so but the stuff are bugs but yeah |
| 1500s | there's there's a mix of circumstances |
| 1502s | but we're going to talk more about we |
| 1504s | balance in a different question um soba |
| 1508s | back to the road map you are also |
| 1510s | working on social tools will you put put |
| 1512s | something like braw Star China like a a |
| 1515s | playroom I guess social Lobby is how we |
| 1517s | call it yeah it's how is it how do they |
| 1519s | call it it's social Lobby no they're not |
| 1521s | calling it it's it's the the dev name |
| 1524s | the valley of stars no like I know I'm |
| 1526s | Chinese guys but I don't |
| 1529s | know you're the only person here can can |
| 1532s | make that joke |
| 1534s | um do you want to answer should I answer |
| 1536s | yeah I mean yeah I could take a stab at |
| 1539s | it and okay go do it um so yeah I think |
| 1543s | I think we looked at it we thought about |
| 1546s | a lot on the team because you know it |
| 1547s | sounds really cool like hey what if you |
| 1549s | know there's a lot of Pros with it and I |
| 1553s | think there's two things like one thing |
| 1555s | is like to do it right like it just |
| 1557s | takes a ton of time and resources to do |
| 1560s | it right and you know that competes with |
| 1563s | everything else we want to do every two |
| 1565s | months right and then two is like I |
| 1567s | don't actually know we had like a really |
| 1570s | confident design going in right so it's |
| 1572s | like hey when given like we don't have a |
| 1574s | confident design and and plus it's like |
| 1576s | a pretty highrisk like huge cost thing |
| 1579s | like hey let's kind of put it on the |
| 1581s | back burner for now I that was that was |
| 1583s | my my general ju just imagine like we |
| 1586s | are half of the death team is working on |
| 1589s | this for half a |
| 1591s | year so so whatever else we could do in |
| 1594s | that six-month period that is |
| 1597s | potentially cooler will take precedent |
| 1600s | yeah we we the we're really glad with |
| 1603s | our partners over there in China um |
| 1605s | because they tried it out obviously and |
| 1607s | we were also able to see some data and |
| 1609s | on the first day the data looked amazing |
| 1612s | a lot of people engaged with this a lot |
| 1614s | of people wanted to go in the lobby take |
| 1617s | screenshots |
| 1618s | but uh that lasted two three days and |
| 1621s | then the numbers came down and I think |
| 1624s | for us that was also like hey we cannot |
| 1626s | just have a room where you can take |
| 1628s | pictures and have a chat because like |
| 1631s | that's just not good enough and not cool |
| 1633s | enough either and then to make it really |
| 1636s | cool well the effort is just going up |
| 1639s | exponentially yeah and yeah as as as |
| 1642s | Jeff said it's like are we confident in |
| 1644s | our design are we confident that this is |
| 1646s | a really cool thing we want to invest |
| 1648s | half a year |
| 1650s | into and the answer for us is no it's |
| 1654s | not so it's not in our it's not in the |
| 1656s | we actually considered this for the next |
| 1658s | summer yeah |
| 1660s | yeah we thought about we thought about |
| 1663s | fishing the idea is not dead fishing is |
| 1666s | not dead guys fishing is not |
| 1668s | dead comment below this video if you |
| 1670s | like fishing |
| 1672s | hashish fish no time to fish yeah yeah |
| 1675s | yeah but I I think the idea is like the |
| 1677s | ideas don't go away and they right so so |
| 1679s | it's definitely there in the back of our |
| 1681s | minds and as a concept to improve social |
| 1684s | like a give a social to our players to |
| 1686s | express themselves I think that's still |
| 1688s | what we want to do right abely |
| 1690s | absolutely but I guess when we're when |
| 1692s | we are now talking about socialist more |
| 1694s | about are we doing a good enough job |
| 1697s | yeah with like our existing social |
| 1699s | features like inviting a friend inviting |
| 1701s | someone who's not your friend yet how do |
| 1703s | you become a friend uh and then how how |
| 1706s | is it to play with each other and stuff |
| 1708s | like that so I think the the lobby is |
| 1710s | just one angle yeah and there's many |
| 1713s | angles yeah totally like brawls actually |
| 1716s | like a super social game not in like the |
| 1718s | traditional you know like World of |
| 1719s | Warcraft sense but you know you you a |
| 1722s | lot of times when you're playing brawl |
| 1724s | in person with someone that's like the |
| 1725s | most fun right oh yeah for sure all |
| 1728s | together yeah hashtag yeah yeah totally |
| 1731s | and you know like there's so many |
| 1734s | different small things we can do to just |
| 1735s | improve that like connecting players in |
| 1737s | the game for sure question from |
| 1741s | Spen I would love to hear your thoughts |
| 1744s | on Early Access the community is getting |
| 1745s | worried that is still pay to win |
| 1747s | especially if the BR is UN nerfed in due |
| 1749s | time AIT and lri uh what are the pros |
| 1753s | and cons of nerfing our brother during |
| 1755s | Early |
| 1756s | Access should I take this one do you |
| 1759s | want to take this one I don't know |
| 1760s | anyway you can talk on the B I can talk |
| 1762s | the ballot inside yeah um so a big thing |
| 1766s | when we have Early Access Brawlers and |
| 1769s | we get for example because a lot of when |
| 1771s | we do balancing we look at data a lot |
| 1773s | and when we have Early Access usually |
| 1775s | what happens is the more engaged players |
| 1778s | will buy the offer so the better players |
| 1780s | will play the brawler and the win rates |
| 1783s | for example are skewed much higher than |
| 1785s | on on normal release so basically the |
| 1787s | first week of data is usually extremely |
| 1790s | unreliable um when it comes to balancing |
| 1792s | specifically and that's that's of course |
| 1794s | tricky because yes we might think that |
| 1796s | okay that might actually be op but we |
| 1799s | can't say for sure because we can't |
| 1801s | trust the specific set of data um so |
| 1804s | that's that's a big big problem with |
| 1806s | Early Access when it comes to balancing |
| 1808s | and then um so that's you know a con of |
| 1812s | Early Access nerfing and of course you |
| 1814s | know it feels as well like okay if we |
| 1818s | don't know what to do let's say within |
| 1823s | that week Based on data should we take a |
| 1825s | stab in the dark probably not because |
| 1827s | then we could go the other way very |
| 1829s | easily right like we've made that |
| 1830s | mistake sometimes where you know |
| 1832s | Brawlers is really op and then we over |
| 1834s | Nerf them for example mhm and then let's |
| 1836s | say we do that in the pre-release week |
| 1839s | every |
| 1841s | podcast every podcast and then if we do |
| 1845s | that in the pre-release week when the |
| 1846s | brawler is then actually released then |
| 1849s | it's already basically Dead on Arrival |
| 1850s | there's no more excitement it's like oh |
| 1852s | well this brawler is not that exciting I |
| 1854s | feel really weak playing this brawler um |
| 1856s | so it's really risky to do but yeah I |
| 1858s | could go on and on about this one but |
| 1859s | yeah maybe some other yeah thoughts on |
| 1861s | it say yeah I I was just going to say |
| 1864s | like I think the tricky thing is like we |
| 1866s | we do want new Brawlers to be like fun |
| 1869s | and good right like sure they are like |
| 1872s | on the I guess you know the top tiers of |
| 1877s | the power power curve and I think that's |
| 1879s | the hard part right like how do we get |
| 1881s | them to feel strong but not broken yeah |
| 1885s | and also a lot of times like you know in |
| 1887s | any competive game when you rebalance |
| 1889s | something like you you have to give time |
| 1890s | for The Meta to settle right obviously |
| 1892s | you know lnl was Prett pretty you know |
| 1895s | way way too strong but like a lot of |
| 1896s | times you might find somebody might find |
| 1899s | a counter to it you know yeah a month in |
| 1902s | and then all of a sudden they rotate out |
| 1903s | of the meta like that happens really |
| 1904s | often yeah I think Chuck that like |
| 1906s | because Chuck Nerf wasn't like a big |
| 1908s | deal right I think was only the super |
| 1910s | that we nerfed yeah so that you |
| 1913s | basically don't spawn with super yeah |
| 1915s | and basically now like he's still good |
| 1917s | in Heist and Hot Zone but it's not like |
| 1920s | if someone pick Chuck you're like oh my |
| 1922s | God what I'm going to do now like you |
| 1924s | don't lose the game it's like okay can |
| 1927s | adapt he's an N pick but but he also can |
| 1930s | be counted right yeah yeah and I think |
| 1933s | uh Maisy which I think on release she |
| 1935s | was good uh like maybe the attack was |
| 1937s | like a bit too slow and then there is |
| 1939s | like the the gadget that was do dodging |
| 1942s | backwards yeah um she was good but |
| 1946s | nobody cared yeah because she was just |
| 1949s | good she was not even like weak right |
| 1951s | she was just good she was she was good |
| 1953s | she was above average by far and I think |
| 1954s | we changed those things we made the |
| 1956s | attack a bit faster and then change the |
| 1958s | gadget and then she was good for a while |
| 1960s | but nobody was caring about then |
| 1962s | suddenly out of nowhere she like oh my |
| 1963s | God she's so she's so strong she's op |
| 1966s | and we didn't do anything yeah yeah yeah |
| 1969s | but that's how it works you know Meta |
| 1970s | Meta changes yeah and as I was like |
| 1973s | going through the questions I saw a |
| 1975s | funny topic because like we already |
| 1977s | answer that we try to release Bowlers on |
| 1979s | the strong side rather than weak because |
| 1981s | if release on weak it's like very hard |
| 1983s | to recover uh this browler popularity |
| 1986s | but then a player was challenging us |
| 1988s | like saying ah but that's not true look |
| 1990s | at Carl like Carl is not popular at all |
| 1994s | yeah he's he's like he's really like on |
| 1996s | the bottom 10 or pretty much makes me |
| 1999s | sad I love Carl yeah it's like your main |
| 2001s | here's like the |
| 2003s | main so yeah like we can see data we can |
| 2005s | see the popularity through like Pi rides |
| 2007s | Wing rides and everything so cwl |
| 2011s | unfortunately I'm sorry Jeff he not up |
| 2013s | trying to bribe Adrian every day like |
| 2016s | hey can you take a look at Carl even |
| 2018s | when when even when Carl was op he |
| 2020s | wasn't popular right when we changed the |
| 2023s | the speed of the projectile not too much |
| 2025s | I mean it goes in waves right like when |
| 2026s | when he was the most OP he's been then |
| 2029s | yes he was like yeah on the top echon of |
| 2032s | like all the Brawlers but he wasn't like |
| 2033s | number one I think at any point of time |
| 2037s | but it's hard to recover from that yeah |
| 2039s | it's not like again going a little bit |
| 2041s | deeper on the topic it's not like we are |
| 2044s | trying to get Brawlers which have an 80% |
| 2047s | win rate yes that's not the goal exactly |
| 2050s | but when we're saying leaning on the |
| 2052s | stronger side then it's probably you |
| 2054s | know there shouldn't be under 50% win |
| 2056s | rate for sure yeah so it's basically a |
| 2058s | range between 50 to about 55 Max 60 if |
| 2061s | it's over 60 then that's an issue yeah |
| 2063s | um that's like if you want to go |
| 2065s | absolute numbers that's kind of how we |
| 2067s | look at it yeah and of course that means |
| 2068s | in some gamees they might overperform it |
| 2070s | in other gamees they might underperform |
| 2073s | yeah and that's okay we talked in the |
| 2074s | past about this as well yeah good you |
| 2078s | want to say something oh yeah no I think |
| 2080s | I think you said it in the last podcast |
| 2082s | already but like I think the tricky part |
| 2084s | is also like we do look at the top |
| 2088s | ranking like you know Mythic and above |
| 2091s | and low rankings and you kind of have to |
| 2093s | balance for everyone right y so that's |
| 2095s | that's the tricky part for sure for sure |
| 2099s | then talking about balancing steel uh |
| 2101s | Power couple gaming they ask could you |
| 2103s | tell us a bit more about how your play |
| 2105s | testing process work for new Brawlers |
| 2107s | hypercharge Etc sure um thinking about |
| 2111s | how I should do a short version of this |
| 2113s | but yeah anyway so um let's say we do a |
| 2115s | brawler we start with an idea uh anyone |
| 2118s | can have an idea but let's say we have |
| 2119s | an idea for let's say we want to make an |
| 2120s | assassin okay so we basically sketch out |
| 2123s | the brawler kit on paper like it should |
| 2125s | do this okay and then we basically start |
| 2128s | with an early prototype so okay we |
| 2129s | implemented into the game maybe it looks |
| 2131s | like another braw maybe it looks like |
| 2132s | Edgar but it has different abilities |
| 2134s | right like before all the art comes in |
| 2136s | before all the visuals and stuff just so |
| 2138s | we can feel how do the abilities feel um |
| 2141s | and then we start Play testing it |
| 2142s | internally with quite a few people um |
| 2145s | also externally we also use a fair bit |
| 2147s | of external testing and then eventually |
| 2149s | once we get a little bit more polish |
| 2151s | it's like okay we need to iterate on |
| 2152s | this maybe this attack should be little |
| 2155s | bit more like this eventually we have a |
| 2157s | kind of cohesive brawler and then we can |
| 2159s | send it to for example creators and pro |
| 2161s | players and so forth that then kind of |
| 2163s | do the last evaluation when we still |
| 2165s | have time to make changes before it's |
| 2167s | released to actual players so it goes |
| 2169s | through many pairs of eyes like Frank |
| 2171s | said it's not me sitting in a cave |
| 2173s | doodling away it goes through many he's |
| 2175s | also doing that but yeah just sitting in |
| 2177s | the |
| 2178s | cave but yeah it goes through many |
| 2180s | people um a lot of people have a say in |
| 2183s | what goes in what should be changed what |
| 2186s | they like what they don't like |
| 2187s | um and then we try to come to a |
| 2189s | conclusion of okay this is a fun strong |
| 2191s | enough not too strong kind of end goal |
| 2194s | and that goes the same for Brawlers |
| 2196s | hyperchargers Gad star Powers basically |
| 2199s | yeah and one thing uh we will try now we |
| 2203s | will have an extra play test with uh |
| 2205s | content creators we won't name them so |
| 2209s | like content creators instead uh but |
| 2212s | then it's like it's going to be a |
| 2213s | separate play test so like we can at |
| 2214s | least have like a a more uh |
| 2217s | wait that sounds like a great |
| 2219s | idea I'm just kidding it's going to |
| 2221s | happen no but no no like naming them |
| 2225s | yeah so we can just deflect yeah of |
| 2227s | course of course of course uh but yeah |
| 2229s | so like of course like a lot of I happen |
| 2232s | there but no uh test is going to be as |
| 2235s | good as a million more than a million |
| 2237s | player playing the same brawler over and |
| 2239s | over over like Millions interactions and |
| 2242s | everything right yeah yeah I think I |
| 2244s | think it's |
| 2245s | like there's l Lally hundreds of matches |
| 2248s | being played with our |
| 2250s | partners |
| 2252s | um sometimes they get it dry and |
| 2254s | sometimes they don't and also after the |
| 2256s | content creators had a weekend or so |
| 2258s | with the |
| 2259s | Brawlers |
| 2261s | um you would be surprised how often they |
| 2263s | are completely wrong when they try to |
| 2265s | estimate the power of a brawler in real |
| 2267s | circumstances so we've seen the whole |
| 2269s | range so it's it's really like nothing |
| 2273s | is like the real deal out there of of |
| 2276s | having Brothers being played by millions |
| 2279s | of people every day I mean like you |
| 2283s | you've probably seen some of the stats |
| 2285s | I've posted recently but but it's not an |
| 2287s | exaggeration that there's you know in in |
| 2290s | some minutes this weekend there were |
| 2291s | hundreds of thousand matches within 60 |
| 2294s | seconds and it's |
| 2296s | like so the the data we're getting is |
| 2299s | just much much more reliable yeah I |
| 2302s | guess fundamentally at the end of the |
| 2303s | day I think what's important for us um |
| 2306s | is that we want to make it right I guess |
| 2310s | that's what it boils down to like if |
| 2313s | something is too strong we will make it |
| 2314s | right we might not do it tomorrow |
| 2317s | depending on what we need to do you like |
| 2318s | when is the next maintenance when does |
| 2319s | it make sense how urgent is this but at |
| 2322s | the end of the day we are looking to |
| 2325s | have a balanced game not a game with |
| 2326s | many op Brawlers in different flavors |
| 2329s | let's put it that way and then how Larry |
| 2331s | was released is not how we want it right |
| 2334s | we want him to be strong and then he was |
| 2335s | okay for and then kit I think he was |
| 2337s | mostly strong because of the bugs yeah |
| 2340s | and that's that can happen as well yeah |
| 2342s | but again those are fixed and then yeah |
| 2347s | then I can't read his name inam inam |
| 2351s | Lain okay uh Star Park CCTV was loved by |
| 2356s | the community and followed with interest |
| 2358s | to put it bluntly we waited for the new |
| 2361s | code as if you were waiting for the new |
| 2363s | episode of an exciting series will this |
| 2365s | continue |
| 2371s | not maybe the in the same format and to |
| 2374s | be very transparent I don't think we |
| 2376s | have anything planned like we want we |
| 2379s | have desires we have Ambitions we have |
| 2381s | plans hopes and dreams yeah yeah ideas |
| 2384s | Brewing yeah but we also take learnings |
| 2387s | from those marketing activities as well |
| 2389s | right like we probably will do something |
| 2391s | different this time even though this was |
| 2393s | quite uh exciting and then I L seeing |
| 2396s | see like random people on Reddit saying |
| 2398s | discovering it for the first time like |
| 2400s | 30 days after it was on like hey guys |
| 2402s | have you seen this yeah I love it really |
| 2406s | cool uh |
| 2408s | santic can we just get an update with |
| 2410s | quality of life sorry maybe maybe just |
| 2412s | one comment on that I remember somebody |
| 2415s | I for I forget but it was like maybe |
| 2417s | Somebody's Daughter they were telling us |
| 2419s | the story that like she opened it and |
| 2422s | you know found the camera thing and had |
| 2424s | the screen transition and she was like |
| 2426s | running around freaking out I feel like |
| 2429s | yeah like those are like the moments |
| 2431s | like you know we're trying to create |
| 2433s | right like that's that magic moment yeah |
| 2435s | yeah for sure |
| 2437s | absolutely uh santic can we get an |
| 2440s | update with just quality of life changes |
| 2442s | I think it's about time in like in the |
| 2444s | past like in the past because of the |
| 2447s | amount of bugs we currently have in the |
| 2449s | game with so many brers the UI might |
| 2451s | also need some changes just improving |
| 2453s | many small things like PowerPoint skip |
| 2456s | well sneak peig fixed it was a buck by |
| 2459s | the way like we accidentally introduced |
| 2462s | it like why would we want to make that |
| 2465s | unskippable no we we want to on that |
| 2468s | PowerPoint screen Rd is growing too fast |
| 2472s | we need something guys slow them down |
| 2474s | yeah I think it's like it's it's one of |
| 2478s | these um it's a big topic on the team |
| 2480s | actually how we balance quality of life |
| 2482s | versus the bigger |
| 2484s | features and we've made a decision while |
| 2487s | ago that we want to focus on like every |
| 2490s | update we focus on one bigger thing that |
| 2493s | might not always be a bigger thing for |
| 2496s | you guys sometimes it might be a bigger |
| 2499s | thing on the back end side of |
| 2501s | things um and at the same time the rest |
| 2503s | of the time we will spent on smaller |
| 2506s | things and some of these smaller things |
| 2508s | are pretty cool like wi streaks wi |
| 2511s | streaks yeah that's maybe the the |
| 2513s | coolest example of recent times and |
| 2516s | we're planning to do more small things |
| 2518s | like that as well um maybe it's also a |
| 2521s | good moment to quickly again I mentioned |
| 2523s | already we're growing the |
| 2525s | team uh we're also growing the team |
| 2527s | because we have a longer and longer |
| 2529s | growing list of quality of life changes |
| 2531s | we would like to do um so if you're a |
| 2534s | programmer out |
| 2536s | there |
| 2538s | C++ we need you started recruit we're |
| 2541s | hiring any opportunity we're totally |
| 2543s | hiring I like it yeah love it shamess oh |
| 2546s | my |
| 2548s | will just receive those industry people |
| 2549s | they're watching us you know that's true |
| 2551s | that's true yeah I mean I think like |
| 2552s | everybody on the team has like high |
| 2554s | quality bar right like we have high |
| 2555s | quality bars and it's like super painful |
| 2558s | just you know we have backlogs on |
| 2561s | backlogs of things that we want to |
| 2562s | improve like there's no running out of |
| 2564s | those it's just like we kind of like |
| 2566s | Frank said like we have to prioritize |
| 2569s | the new the fun the exciting that's most |
| 2571s | important yes you know and if we can try |
| 2574s | to get to the Quality life stuff we try |
| 2575s | to get it |
| 2577s | you know when when can but yeah we we |
| 2580s | it's super painful watching those sit |
| 2582s | there from update to update y but um |
| 2586s | yeah uh next question uh from Dev uh how |
| 2590s | old how are old excl exclusive skins |
| 2593s | recaller performing in the game now we |
| 2595s | just recaller like clo sking or change |
| 2598s | recallers like hood hood Chell scheme |
| 2601s | more successful mhm I don't have data so |
| 2605s | the data is in my head |
| 2610s | um it's it's a great question I I think |
| 2613s | the the the easiest answer is like if |
| 2616s | the original skin was popular the |
| 2619s | recolor is popular yeah and that's |
| 2622s | that's true for the more heavy reworks |
| 2625s | like hudo Chelly for |
| 2628s | example but it's also true for ferocious |
| 2631s | Fang which is a furious Fang rework and |
| 2635s | that was just a recolor |
| 2637s | so so I think if anything the and the |
| 2641s | Lola skin by the way was not super |
| 2643s | popular the recolor but the original was |
| 2646s | also not super popular |
| 2649s | so so yeah I I guess what I'd like to |
| 2652s | say is that we we will probably keep |
| 2654s | doing both the heavier reworks and |
| 2656s | regular |
| 2657s | recolors but you should expect us to do |
| 2660s | more of the just recolors especially for |
| 2663s | popular skins from the past which are |
| 2665s | not long available yeah |
| 2667s | I think that just makes it accessible |
| 2668s | for many more people CU also there is |
| 2671s | the workload part right of course like |
| 2673s | maybe who Chell perform better because |
| 2675s | it's almost like a completely new skin |
| 2677s | it's just inspired by the same team um |
| 2680s | so like it also takes a lot more effort |
| 2682s | to rebuild the skin from the scratch or |
| 2684s | like a redo a lot of things than just |
| 2687s | recoloring the skin like for example |
| 2689s | Fang we know it's already performing |
| 2691s | well like we can just swap the colors |
| 2693s | and then it will perform uh well again |
| 2696s | as for I guess H who Chell was actually |
| 2699s | it was more an experiment right yeah |
| 2701s | yeah yeah it was an experiment the other |
| 2702s | one and and there might be more like |
| 2704s | that in the future but but we are we are |
| 2707s | basically we promised the community to |
| 2710s | not bring skins back which which we |
| 2713s | honor yeah but at the same time this |
| 2715s | allows people who did not get that |
| 2717s | original skin to get it so we're not |
| 2719s | expecting people who have the original |
| 2720s | skin to say hey this is so amazing I |
| 2723s | want to buy this yeah it's it's really |
| 2725s | not the case it's it's it's about |
| 2727s | enabling people who didn't have the |
| 2729s | chance to buy the original one without |
| 2731s | breaking our promise so that was a |
| 2733s | compromise and I guess we can you know |
| 2736s | again you don't have to agree with our |
| 2737s | philosophy there it's it's just what we |
| 2741s | think is the right course of action |
| 2743s | yeah from Ready Set um one of our |
| 2748s | casters for Esports yeah nice guy nice |
| 2751s | guy monetization uh could you explain |
| 2754s | how revenue from progression Stacks up |
| 2756s | against against revenue from Cosmetics |
| 2758s | that's one question and explain how |
| 2760s | freebies affect the F2 uh free-to-play |
| 2763s | economy with data |
| 2765s | please I actually I forgot the data for |
| 2767s | the one but you can add later so like we |
| 2769s | can we can talk and we can show on the |
| 2771s | screen I can only sure I can only talk |
| 2775s | for the the distribution probably |
| 2779s | changed with a new broad pass M before |
| 2782s | the brw pass the brw pass rework the |
| 2785s | distribution was about 8 20 in favor of |
| 2787s | progression okay progression then it |
| 2790s | means brawler Brawlers and power levels |
| 2793s | and and all of that stuff coins |
| 2795s | everything everything regarded to make |
| 2797s | your brawler stronger and the Brawlers |
| 2799s | themselves uh or credits that's all |
| 2803s | progression and cosmetics everything |
| 2805s | else and progression uh sorry the the |
| 2807s | Cosmetic part is varying a lot depending |
| 2809s | on how popular the Skins are of course |
| 2812s | and do we have a 299 gem skin or not and |
| 2814s | stuff like that so so so yeah it's |
| 2817s | heavily leaning towards |
| 2819s | progression and this is like in a |
| 2822s | perfect world it would be different I |
| 2825s | think we all agree in the team that we |
| 2827s | would love to have more weight on the |
| 2830s | Cosmetic side and we keep going to |
| 2832s | experiment with different formats for |
| 2834s | that in the |
| 2835s | future um but on the other side it's |
| 2838s | just like the way brawl was created as a |
| 2841s | game doesn't lean itself that easily |
| 2844s | into cosmetic items because there's only |
| 2846s | so much space to to express yourself |
| 2848s | with a skin in Brawl we're trying to you |
| 2851s | know improve that constantly but but |
| 2853s | it's |
| 2854s | still yeah yeah I think it has moved |
| 2858s | like more towards cosmetics in recent |
| 2860s | times yeah and I think that's kind of |
| 2862s | what we want to do yeah um and then the |
| 2865s | second part of the are you want to still |
| 2868s | talk about the no no the second part is |
| 2870s | how freebi affect the free play |
| 2874s | economy um with data please Jeff I don't |
| 2877s | I don't have the data I don't even know |
| 2879s | yeah we can we can put it up later I |
| 2881s | think like do you think there is |
| 2883s | something we can show because I yeah we |
| 2884s | can show like the coin coin graph I |
| 2886s | think that's a good proxy like because |
| 2888s | you know when we do freebies and stuff |
| 2891s | we that's what we kind of keep an eye on |
| 2893s | right um I think you know when I think |
| 2896s | the biggest event we did was chromal |
| 2900s | more where we gave away a ton of because |
| 2902s | you can kind of Stack The Double XP you |
| 2905s | can stack the the token doublers at the |
| 2907s | time and you get the coin sh so you're |
| 2909s | getting like I don't know I think you |
| 2911s | could have gotten like 10,000 coins in |
| 2913s | the event or or more right it was a lot |
| 2916s | I forget the math but um so yeah we we |
| 2918s | we take a look at that but at the same |
| 2920s | time maybe I know there's conversations |
| 2922s | on more economy stuff later later but we |
| 2925s | do keep that in mind right like yes you |
| 2927s | know things like Club League got nerfed |
| 2929s | and we took a lot of that away but we |
| 2932s | you know give all that back and and braw |
| 2934s | pass and a lot more with like like |
| 2936s | community events and other events and |
| 2938s | other feebs we do right so I guess to |
| 2941s | answer the question it does um but |
| 2943s | ultimately like we're trying to give |
| 2946s | players the right amount of things so |
| 2949s | you feel like the gamer is rewarding and |
| 2952s | ultimately you want to continue to play |
| 2953s | more it's a super fine balance yeah it's |
| 2956s | it's like |
| 2958s | between so Jeff touched on it it's |
| 2962s | about giving players the feeling of |
| 2965s | progression even if you're free to |
| 2967s | play and on the other side this is a |
| 2971s | business so so not |
| 2973s | removing the desire for people to |
| 2976s | support the game with |
| 2978s | cash right so if if you're overdoing one |
| 2982s | side over the other then we don't have a |
| 2985s | base to sustain the game so |
| 2988s | whenever there's a again the terminology |
| 2991s | from from from freet to-play |
| 2993s | specifically games is it's called |
| 2996s | conversion rate so it's like the the |
| 2999s | more generous you are within the game |
| 3003s | the the lower your conversion rate |
| 3006s | because if if nobody feels like they |
| 3008s | have to spend anything to progress FAS |
| 3010s | on the game well you will have less |
| 3013s | people supporting you that's that's what |
| 3015s | it is um especially in freeto playay |
| 3018s | games it's pretty important that we |
| 3020s | create a desire to spend because you |
| 3023s | know we're not getting any upfront money |
| 3025s | for the service we're providing so it's |
| 3027s | it's really a fine balance but yeah |
| 3030s | again we want free to-play players |
| 3031s | having fun in the |
| 3033s | game but there there's just limits it's |
| 3036s | it needs to be a good balance and we're |
| 3037s | balancing that in the background by |
| 3039s | looking at things like retention and and |
| 3041s | how fast people progress and what we |
| 3043s | think is the ideal speed of |
| 3047s | progression as measured by how long |
| 3049s | people are sticking around and and I |
| 3052s | think like the ideal scenario for a game |
| 3055s | to profit all like for us what we want |
| 3057s | would be that every single player pays a |
| 3060s | very little bit right because then it |
| 3062s | doesn't demand a lot from One Singular |
| 3066s | player um so that's why like every time |
| 3068s | like we we make freet to-play |
| 3071s | economy more what is it the word |
| 3074s | generous generous yeah we yeah we we are |
| 3079s | hurting or we could hurt a a a future |
| 3084s | conversion right we could hurt a future |
| 3086s | payer to buy something and then we |
| 3088s | actually have data yay to show what uh |
| 3093s | the |
| 3094s | conversion cuz like it's also growing |
| 3097s | and you can see like this means that |
| 3099s | like of course like we're monetizing |
| 3100s | more because there is more players but |
| 3103s | it's not also heavily on whales which is |
| 3106s | like what people keep asking about right |
| 3108s | are you like yeah we don't we don't we |
| 3110s | don't call our players mammals |
| 3113s | yeah yeah yeah and you know it's that's |
| 3116s | kind of what we focus on right like we |
| 3118s | focus on converting players but we're |
| 3121s | not focused on trying to extract as much |
| 3123s | money as we can off of a single player |
| 3125s | like that's not the goal yeah I I I do |
| 3128s | think I saw a few comments making it |
| 3131s | like heavy payer heavy yeah but it's |
| 3134s | quite the opposite right now since we |
| 3136s | introduced the new brawl pass the the |
| 3139s | the the base of payers is much wider |
| 3142s | than it was before so more people spend |
| 3144s | something not the heavy Spenders are |
| 3147s | spending significantly more if anything |
| 3149s | they might actually spend less yeah cuz |
| 3151s | actually the new pass it offer more yes |
| 3155s | yeah it's offer More For Less right you |
| 3156s | should buy just the yeah better value |
| 3159s | yeah you get way better value now yeah |
| 3161s | thanks |
| 3162s | Jeff no I mean like I mean I think I |
| 3165s | think it's like I think the results are |
| 3167s | like just kind of really much better for |
| 3169s | us long term |
| 3171s | right I also would like to touch on on |
| 3174s | one one thing that's maybe slightly |
| 3175s | connect connected and sometimes a |
| 3177s | misconception when people look for |
| 3178s | example at the early exess Brawlers and |
| 3181s | they're like why would I spend 15 bucks |
| 3183s | on on Larry and Lori right okay there |
| 3187s | was some extra value there it was 5x off |
| 3189s | I think yeah but people are still like |
| 3192s | why would I spend that if I can get it |
| 3194s | uh at the end of the braw pass season |
| 3196s | pretty much for free when when the brawl |
| 3198s | pass resolves and things get autoc |
| 3199s | claimed or I can get it at least if I |
| 3202s | got the the the basic premium pass and |
| 3205s | the previous update cycle and and that's |
| 3208s | completely okay we we're happy if that's |
| 3210s | how you think yeah it's like the the for |
| 3214s | us it's about offering a range of |
| 3217s | offers suited to your needs and for some |
| 3221s | of you that's hey I don't have any |
| 3224s | disposable income I can spend on my |
| 3226s | favorite game that's fine then maybe ETS |
| 3229s | I com in your way uh in some regions |
| 3232s | that's already the case we're |
| 3233s | experimenting with ads and you were get |
| 3235s | some extra stuff there in some some |
| 3239s | people have like you know five six bucks |
| 3243s | every month they can spend on their |
| 3244s | favorite game and you should get |
| 3246s | something valuable for |
| 3248s | that and so with our new structure I |
| 3251s | think we are we're tailoring better to |
| 3254s | individual needs and and and people like |
| 3257s | while sustaining the game so in our |
| 3260s | heads Early Access is like a a good way |
| 3264s | to allow people who have more disposable |
| 3266s | income to get something extra without |
| 3269s | bloating the game without bloating the |
| 3271s | game with new systems yeah or you know |
| 3273s | like oh power level 12 looks really |
| 3275s | sweet over there but but do we have |
| 3278s | other means and other levers to to make |
| 3281s | things happen and the Early Access is is |
| 3284s | basically harming no |
| 3285s | one but it's it's helping us to support |
| 3288s | the game in better ways than we could |
| 3291s | before and again if if you are spending |
| 3294s | $6.99 or 999 on the brw pass and that's |
| 3298s | everything you spend fantastic I hope I |
| 3301s | hope you're enjoying your purchase and I |
| 3303s | hope you feel it's giving you the value |
| 3304s | for that it is but if you are if you are |
| 3308s | like an adult in your 30s and you have |
| 3311s | more disposable income than |
| 3313s | time then why why wouldn't we offer you |
| 3316s | to get early access to you know even you |
| 3320s | know get get the tears of the brawl pass |
| 3322s | for all I know to to unlock all the |
| 3324s | things I think that's complet really |
| 3325s | cool because we all have different needs |
| 3328s | and different pockets as you grow old |
| 3330s | you you get more money but you have less |
| 3333s | time tell me something or less of both |
| 3337s | yeah that's only you because of you no |
| 3339s | I'm |
| 3340s | not yeah maybe maybe philosophically I |
| 3342s | think monetization is like I think the |
| 3346s | pH philosophical check is like hey is |
| 3348s | this purchase making the game even more |
| 3350s | fun for you right like we're not in the |
| 3353s | business of like trying to |
| 3354s | psychologically trick you into buying |
| 3356s | something and then you regret it later |
| 3358s | right like we want our players to stick |
| 3359s | with us for years you know so it's it's |
| 3362s | always about like hey we want to sell |
| 3365s | something that's going to make the game |
| 3366s | even more fun yeah I I remember reading |
| 3369s | one of the one comment related to that |
| 3371s | because I think on kit kit was like 29 |
| 3374s | 28 kit yeah I think was more expensive I |
| 3378s | think it was $ |
| 3379s | 39.99 34 something so I don't know yeah |
| 3383s | 34 years I think it |
| 3386s | $29 and then someone was saying like I |
| 3388s | can buy a tripa game for that and then |
| 3390s | someone comment like I spend I'd spend |
| 3393s | nothing in this game and I play for like |
| 3394s | two 2,000 hours like braw stars yeah I |
| 3398s | just like play Spider-Man great game by |
| 3399s | the way I not call it Spider-Man is a |
| 3402s | great game but I spent like 69 I think |
| 3404s | is the release price I beat it in 20 |
| 3406s | hours never touch it again yeah like |
| 3409s | there is like a it's not this black and |
| 3411s | white price comparison like how much fun |
| 3413s | we have with this product yeah yeah |
| 3415s | great game Spider-Man by the way I don't |
| 3417s | want |
| 3417s | to love Spider-Man Spider-Man 2 was |
| 3420s | amazing yeah and it's not like we want |
| 3422s | to like lock most of the fun behind some |
| 3426s | P wall right like if you're a free |
| 3427s | to-play player you get like dozen two |
| 3430s | dozen Brawlers really quickly unlocked |
| 3432s | you can probably get a bunch of level |
| 3434s | 11s in you know in a couple of days |
| 3436s | couple of weeks right and you're pretty |
| 3438s | much competitive and Le it was really |
| 3440s | awesome like I I started a new |
| 3441s | free-to-play |
| 3442s | account um a week after the new Bro pass |
| 3446s | season |
| 3447s | started and when uh Larry and Lori were |
| 3451s | released um after the early ex's I had |
| 3455s | enough credits to get them like the day |
| 3458s | later I think that felt really cool yeah |
| 3462s | yeah um and I I put him actually to |
| 3464s | power n the same day as a free toplay oh |
| 3468s | nice he's very he was he's already |
| 3471s | powerful at part one at One release |
| 3473s | actually I I unlocked him |
| 3476s | and then I forgot upgrade him and like |
| 3478s | uh they realized during the match but I |
| 3480s | still won but you know the star power on |
| 3483s | the gadget lle yeah doesn't work yeah |
| 3489s | anyway so Gabe asked how do you guys see |
| 3493s | power points inside the game players |
| 3495s | from the early game have too much gold |
| 3497s | no players from the early game have too |
| 3500s | much gold and almost not wait yes yes |
| 3502s | yes continue right continue players from |
| 3504s | the early game have too much gold and |
| 3506s | almost no power points but in the late |
| 3507s | game there's an excess okay amount of |
| 3509s | power points and no gold do you guys |
| 3512s | plan some type of change for this |
| 3514s | currency in the game or it's |
| 3517s | okay it's all yours Jeff Oh I thought |
| 3520s | you were going to show a graph ah I want |
| 3522s | to show a graph yeah yeah well but the |
| 3523s | graph won't help |
| 3528s | you yeah I think I think when we kind of |
| 3530s | looked at everything um we did want to |
| 3534s | make |
| 3535s | upgrading many many Brawlers to power 11 |
| 3538s | take time right that we do we want that |
| 3540s | to be true for for reasons we talked |
| 3542s | about earlier |
| 3544s | and we didn't want PowerPoints to be the |
| 3547s | reason for that so we were really |
| 3548s | generous on PowerPoints that's why you |
| 3550s | know the only game thing maybe that's |
| 3552s | just a randomization thing from from |
| 3554s | Star drops um but in the late game yeah |
| 3558s | we we didn't want power points to be an |
| 3559s | issue everybody should just have an |
| 3561s | abundant amount of power points but |
| 3563s | coins on the other hand like there |
| 3565s | there's also more syncs for coins right |
| 3567s | there's you got to buy all kinds of |
| 3568s | different you can buy two star Powers if |
| 3571s | you like if you need the optionality |
| 3572s | right um |
| 3574s | so so yeah I mean that is how the game |
| 3577s | is balanced right now it's a maybe it's |
| 3580s | a little bit off we have to take a look |
| 3581s | at it and think about it um but it's not |
| 3585s | like far off from from the intention |
| 3586s | right like it's not like we're like we |
| 3589s | want players to just have an abundant |
| 3591s | amount of power points like you should |
| 3593s | just have that that shouldn't be like a |
| 3594s | point of friction but yeah for for coins |
| 3597s | like yeah it does take time to earn and |
| 3599s | especially if you want optionality |
| 3600s | different different star powers |
| 3602s | different gadgets right like yeah it's |
| 3604s | going to take time investment yeah I |
| 3606s | think like uh but uh then I I think this |
| 3609s | graph show it's keeps growing right so I |
| 3612s | think maybe in the future it could be a |
| 3614s | problem but also like I want to mention |
| 3616s | that we remove the cap because it was a |
| 3619s | mechanic that we we don't want people to |
| 3621s | abuse or like the like you shouldn't try |
| 3624s | to |
| 3625s | use the system to get more coins because |
| 3627s | of this cap right this is like a bad |
| 3629s | design so that's why remove the cap yeah |
| 3631s | that's that's one reason but also like |
| 3633s | you know with any kind of currency |
| 3635s | design like we want a currency to be |
| 3637s | there and you should naturally want to |
| 3639s | spend it like we were H we were kind of |
| 3641s | like ham like for forcing you like no |
| 3644s | you can't get anymore go spend it first |
| 3646s | right like that feels bad so it's like |
| 3648s | hey just not have that like you should |
| 3650s | just have natural reasons to want to |
| 3651s | spend it and like I think yeah it's |
| 3653s | growing right now |
| 3655s | obviously but like the current level is |
| 3658s | like you know around 1300 1400 like like |
| 3661s | 10 to 11 is like, 1400 so that's |
| 3663s | actually like pretty much around where |
| 3665s | we want it to be yeah maybe we can |
| 3667s | explain what the Q50 means and yeah |
| 3669s | that's like 50th percentile like |
| 3672s | somewhere near median right so that's |
| 3674s | like the median player not the average |
| 3677s | player yeah um but yeah that's that's |
| 3680s | around the can you explain the |
| 3681s | difference between median and average |
| 3683s | yeah like well mathematically |
| 3685s | averag is when you take everybody and |
| 3687s | you divide it right median is like you |
| 3688s | look at the whole set and you look at |
| 3690s | the people in the middle um so so yeah I |
| 3694s | think that's around where we want it to |
| 3695s | be but obviously if it keeps growing |
| 3697s | then then we'll take a look at things |
| 3698s | and and rebalance it I think it's safe |
| 3700s | to say |
| 3701s | that there's |
| 3704s | a something to be done for endgame |
| 3707s | players who |
| 3709s | have PowerPoints for years like myself |
| 3715s | um it's it's like again it's like we we |
| 3719s | hear that of course being said on |
| 3720s | socials and we hear it being set like |
| 3723s | from Pro players content creators |
| 3726s | because for them it's true but for the |
| 3729s | majority of our players it's not true so |
| 3731s | it's a it's a problem for some few |
| 3733s | people and I would like to make the |
| 3736s | argument that whatever currency we have |
| 3738s | whatever structures we have in place |
| 3741s | there will always be an |
| 3743s | end there's like you will always hit a |
| 3745s | wall somewhere because there's nothing |
| 3746s | else to buy in the game nothing else to |
| 3748s | upgrade and that is I think we talked in |
| 3751s | the past about that when we talked about |
| 3752s | Fame a little it's like if you have a |
| 3755s | maxed |
| 3756s | account like yes there's there's |
| 3761s | Fame and we will see like there was one |
| 3764s | of the discussions in the team if we |
| 3765s | should you know in the past with the |
| 3767s | chroma credits we allowed them to be |
| 3769s | transferred to fame for |
| 3771s | example um it is a very much an endgame |
| 3774s | problem to have too much |
| 3776s | Powerpoints and we cannot release as |
| 3778s | many broers as we wanted but eventually |
| 3780s | there will be maybe something else for |
| 3782s | PowerPoints who |
| 3783s | knows yeah yeah I think the the idea is |
| 3785s | always like you know we know PowerPoints |
| 3787s | is there we have ideas for future |
| 3790s | features like maybe that's something we |
| 3792s | lean into and use right like so so yeah |
| 3795s | it's it's it's on our minds yeah Brewing |
| 3798s | ideas yeah and I think in the in the |
| 3800s | previous podcast that you were someone |
| 3802s | suggested to use like how about don't |
| 3803s | you use the just uh PowerPoints for |
| 3806s | brawler progression and then coins is |
| 3807s | everything else but then like you |
| 3809s | actually answer in the podcast but |
| 3811s | people don't don't quote that part but |
| 3814s | then you said like to restructure the |
| 3816s | whole system to make it happen it's like |
| 3818s | would be a lot of time consumed from the |
| 3821s | from us that would wouldn't make any |
| 3823s | difference in the end just like just |
| 3825s | change the system like using this time |
| 3828s | for that and uh preventing us from |
| 3830s | creating something more fun it's like |
| 3832s | because it's not an easy change right |
| 3834s | like let's say we change from the |
| 3835s | economy now like it has to kind of like |
| 3838s | rebalance the whole economy if you like |
| 3840s | remove the coin out of the dollar |
| 3842s | progression so it's have to yeah it's |
| 3845s | also like from a balancing standpoint |
| 3847s | right it's always better to have |
| 3849s | multiple levels instead of one yeah MH |
| 3852s | the moment there just one currency you |
| 3854s | only have this one level so you can give |
| 3856s | more or less of this one currency but um |
| 3859s | having having two currencies is doubling |
| 3863s | our opportunities with balancing yeah |
| 3865s | for the economy so it's like it's the |
| 3867s | same with everything a game design you |
| 3869s | want to have as many possibilities to |
| 3871s | balance a single |
| 3872s | thing |
| 3874s | yeah next question Moonlight |
| 3879s | BS uh any plans on adding more ping |
| 3881s | slots to the game with more pings being |
| 3883s | added to the game into the game it's a |
| 3886s | fe how many players in the community |
| 3887s | have been asking |
| 3889s | for |
| 3891s | yes no let's give more context like uh |
| 3894s | it's something we have I mentioned this |
| 3897s | quality of life backlock and and this is |
| 3900s | one of the things our especially Gonzalo |
| 3902s | shout out to Gonzalo is creating he and |
| 3905s | his uh Army of good artists no there's |
| 3909s | there's more people there's more people |
| 3911s | than him working on this yeah but he has |
| 3913s | an an army of people working on all |
| 3915s | those cool assets which are the pins and |
| 3918s | the the sprays and the profile pictures |
| 3921s | and and he's probably for a year already |
| 3923s | in like hey |
| 3925s | can we somehow allow people to use more |
| 3927s | of the pins yeah yeah and we agree so |
| 3929s | there's no disagreement here we all in |
| 3931s | agreement we will make it happen we just |
| 3933s | don't have a date yeah not in the next |
| 3935s | update no absolutely |
| 3938s | not to |
| 3941s | date sorry to shut it like we we will |
| 3944s | try to make it happen we just don't know |
| 3946s | when yeah uh toast my question would be |
| 3951s | how do you guys plan on addressing |
| 3952s | trophy inflation |
| 3957s | what trophy |
| 3958s | inflation for the top players I guess |
| 3961s | yeah I mean there's a few things I guess |
| 3963s | in this question contributing to Trophy |
| 3965s | inflation it is of course every brawler |
| 3967s | we release yeah Max trophies goes higher |
| 3969s | right like by you know 5 750,000 |
| 3972s | whatever um and then the second part of |
| 3975s | course is Win streaks of course |
| 3976s | inflating trophies a little bit as well |
| 3979s | um based on how the mechanic Works um |
| 3982s | not to say that win streaks is bad by |
| 3983s | the way I think it's a net POS for even |
| 3985s | though there is trophy inflation coming |
| 3987s | along with it um but I think eventually |
| 3990s | For Us trophies should not maybe be the |
| 3993s | most important Vector of your account |
| 3996s | progress um currently of course when you |
| 3998s | open the game when you check your |
| 3999s | friends your first question is how many |
| 4001s | trophies do you have yeah and eventually |
| 4003s | I think we and the team would definitely |
| 4006s | like to change that question um long |
| 4008s | story short I don't know if this is a |
| 4009s | segue to a sneak peek or what but well |
| 4011s | we don't have much like we know that V |
| 4014s | is like a or the other game designer we |
| 4015s | had here in the podcast he's uh um what |
| 4018s | is it he's passionate about this topic |
| 4021s | right at least he tried to change like |
| 4022s | organically and then we had a post on |
| 4025s | social media asking like what do what |
| 4027s | you like or what you dislike about the |
| 4028s | trophy system like he he he read like a |
| 4031s | lot of those things and then he's |
| 4033s | working on ideas or like he wants to do |
| 4035s | some changes but uh we don't have |
| 4037s | anything like mapped or really concrete |
| 4039s | it's just yeah to to be very realistic |
| 4042s | it's very unlikely that this year |
| 4044s | anything about the trophy system will |
| 4045s | change yeah I think I think what Adan |
| 4049s | was alluding to is power League oh that |
| 4054s | is indeed what about power league is it |
| 4057s | the Sak Pig time no that's what yeah |
| 4059s | what I was kind of segueing into but |
| 4061s | okay then we the segue will be in the |
| 4064s | sneak pick time oh |
| 4067s | wow long seg yeah so organized that's F |
| 4070s | TTL Gamers oh but maybe on on trophies |
| 4074s | real quick I think there's like two two |
| 4076s | major types of players that play our |
| 4077s | game right like the people who just feel |
| 4079s | good about progressing and gaining and |
| 4081s | collecting and leveling up and then |
| 4083s | there's the really competitive players |
| 4085s | right like if you're a competitive |
| 4087s | player like your total trophies don't |
| 4088s | mean that much to be honest except for |
| 4090s | the lad Warriors for the lad Warriors |
| 4093s | sure but there's like a lots of win |
| 4094s | trading right there's a lot of cheese |
| 4096s | tactics you can do like if you're if |
| 4098s | you're talking about skill expression |
| 4099s | like what's the level of your skills |
| 4101s | like you know it's like power league |
| 4102s | right that's the better better measure |
| 4104s | yeah and I think in in the long term |
| 4106s | like there should be two two two metrics |
| 4109s | like one is like your total trophies |
| 4110s | like what's your senority like what's |
| 4112s | your tenure in Brawl right and then your |
| 4115s | power League rank is like what is your |
| 4117s | skill what how good are you in Brawl |
| 4120s | right |
| 4122s | yeah then unrelated dtl Gamers uh how |
| 4128s | did you like the release of the new brow |
| 4129s | pass system was it better or worse than |
| 4132s | expected and how was the community |
| 4134s | feedback so there's three questions here |
| 4137s | yeah yeah so how did the release went |
| 4141s | smoothly no Beyond was amazing yeah yeah |
| 4144s | I mean like you you saw the DI graph |
| 4147s | earlier yeah yeah just show the |
| 4149s | conversion that's true it does it uh |
| 4152s | match |
| 4153s | the |
| 4157s | the it was January so it's around here |
| 4160s | right you see that you can see that huge |
| 4162s | jump there from which |
| 4165s | one so so it's like yeah I think it |
| 4169s | totally I mean like yes it exceeded all |
| 4172s | our expectations that's a that's a short |
| 4175s | answer so we're really really happy with |
| 4178s | how it went um this is maybe also like |
| 4182s | do you want to talk about completion |
| 4185s | rates yeah the uh oh that's ugly so you |
| 4190s | guys will make it better thank you team |
| 4193s | so so it's actually like one one of the |
| 4195s | things we wanted to achieve with this as |
| 4197s | well is |
| 4198s | that we like it's very hard to imagine |
| 4202s | if you're playing the game every day if |
| 4203s | you're a hardcore player you're like oh |
| 4206s | my God you know like there's some sort |
| 4208s | of progression Nerf or something here |
| 4211s | but for for the real world the more |
| 4216s | average |
| 4218s | players not everyone finished their |
| 4220s | brawl pass especially not free to play |
| 4223s | so the the you see is from the circus |
| 4225s | season and the staron |
| 4227s | season and um so in the circus season |
| 4232s | free-to-play players was just just under |
| 4235s | 11% of free-to-play players finished the |
| 4239s | brw pass and 84% of people who got the |
| 4243s | premium pass that's not bad 84% yeah um |
| 4247s | the new pass now was tuned much better |
| 4251s | and now 22% of free-to-play players |
| 4254s | that's more than 2x the amount of people |
| 4257s | who start the free-to-play |
| 4259s | season um finish the season tier 50 and |
| 4265s | 95% of paying players which is uh |
| 4269s | absolutely amazing so 95% of the people |
| 4272s | who buy the pass will finish it which is |
| 4277s | yeah I mean those those results for us |
| 4280s | uh are mean mean a ton and it also |
| 4282s | showcases that free to play players have |
| 4284s | more fun with this yeah and also like uh |
| 4287s | to add like if you compare the um number |
| 4290s | of players for Cirus and ston actually |
| 4293s | circus had a lot less players so the |
| 4295s | percentage is like lower so like 22% of |
| 4298s | like a bigger pool is a lot more players |
| 4300s | like it's not exactly two 2x I think |
| 4303s | it's even more number of players |
| 4304s | completing the pass yeah and and and |
| 4307s | like circus was two months right yeah |
| 4309s | and star tons is one month so it's like |
| 4311s | the time difference as well it's crazy |
| 4314s | yeah so we really happy with how the |
| 4316s | tuning worked out we're happy with how |
| 4318s | the pass worked out we're happy with the |
| 4320s | community responses as well I think just |
| 4323s | like you know one one again one of the |
| 4327s | things |
| 4327s | we measure the highest is like if |
| 4330s | someone spends their hard earned cash on |
| 4332s | Broad |
| 4333s | stars then that is the the highest form |
| 4336s | of |
| 4337s | Engagement and you guys have shown us |
| 4340s | that that you value the new pass very |
| 4342s | clearly |
| 4347s | all |
| 4348s | right wondering when you going to use |
| 4350s | this yeah sorry I keep forgetting I I I |
| 4353s | should be like just operating that like |
| 4355s | like |
| 4358s | litc but um yeah and I guess on the |
| 4361s | community responses there right to that |
| 4363s | question I mean I think I saw a four or |
| 4366s | five post of someone doing the math on |
| 4368s | redit |
| 4370s | incorrectly most of them get it right I |
| 4373s | mean kyos did it for you man like I |
| 4375s | don't know so but but it's pretty clear |
| 4378s | like it is it is a buff it is a buff |
| 4381s | it's funny because those posts are |
| 4383s | always like I'm a nuclear physicist I |
| 4384s | did the |
| 4386s | math |
| 4388s | right yeah but shout out to community |
| 4392s | yes shout out to community yo yo yo yo |
| 4394s | yo yo no but I I think I want to point |
| 4396s | out like it's a Denny moment like uh of |
| 4399s | course like I talked to Jeff I talked to |
| 4400s | Frank I talked to everyone to make these |
| 4402s | BR pass coms but I think like like you |
| 4406s | are not seeing a lot of complaints about |
| 4408s | the broad pass change right and then we |
| 4410s | had like before you could pay you could |
| 4412s | get the brw pass by free gems |
| 4416s | and and then you can't anymore so like |
| 4419s | only this change would create like a |
| 4421s | huge backlash to any game that I I I |
| 4424s | know MH but we manag to not have any |
| 4428s | bigger deal right so like I think it's a |
| 4430s | like the fact that you don't see this |
| 4432s | comment popping out is because we made a |
| 4435s | good job on communicating it earlier |
| 4437s | yeah totally I mean uh before like we |
| 4440s | talked it was it wasn't going to be like |
| 4442s | that much of a buff yeah like and you |
| 4445s | really like fought for that yeah so like |
| 4447s | you know thank |
| 4450s | you you have just another Danny behind |
| 4452s | you |
| 4453s | ging Obama meme yeah oh no but I think |
| 4457s | it's also good because like the team was |
| 4458s | open to listen right so like my concern |
| 4460s | was like Hey I have this thing to |
| 4462s | announce and I I said to Jeff to Frank |
| 4464s | like there is no words I can say to the |
| 4466s | players that they will uh perceive it |
| 4469s | positively if they are getting if freeto |
| 4471s | play is getting nerfed yeah and then |
| 4473s | like can the numbers do the |
| 4475s | communication and then you just manage |
| 4477s | that like if you |
| 4479s | uh take into account one month of |
| 4481s | progression with the old system and with |
| 4483s | the new system the new system is better |
| 4485s | it's like yeah that's the numbers and |
| 4487s | then yeah it's easier to communicate |
| 4489s | easy proposition for sure yeah actually |
| 4492s | for the record too like I I see the math |
| 4494s | post sometimes like people don't really |
| 4496s | factor in the star drops the star drops |
| 4498s | are actually worth bonus just we we just |
| 4500s | stated like even without them like you |
| 4502s | know it's like better so like with them |
| 4504s | it's actually a lot better yeah |
| 4506s | yeah also most of the meth doesn't |
| 4508s | consider when we run special events yeah |
| 4512s | totally which we do quite regularly mhm |
| 4515s | and it was actually communicated in the |
| 4517s | choma no more F cuz like we we had the |
| 4521s | we like we we are not like blind we when |
| 4523s | we remov the club League shop the club |
| 4526s | shop and we replace with mega Pig we |
| 4528s | know Club League was giving more coins |
| 4530s | right but in the communication we posted |
| 4533s | we actually say and then community |
| 4535s | events will make up for the lack of |
| 4538s | rewards from the club League to MEAP Pig |
| 4541s | transition so basically we're pretty |
| 4543s | much actually now we have a graph for |
| 4545s | that look at that we have yeah another |
| 4548s | graph show it Tony oh my God coin gain |
| 4552s | so like the Baseline is always in |
| 4553s | increasing meaning that you are always |
| 4555s | getting more coins than before and of |
| 4557s | course there a huge Spike on the Mastery |
| 4559s | update because then it's like that was a |
| 4561s | biggest buff we added for the economy |
| 4564s | which hasn't been removed Master is |
| 4566s | still there and I'm sure you have a lot |
| 4567s | of brawlers to collect your resources |
| 4569s | from um but you can see blink update we |
| 4572s | didn't add anything to progression so |
| 4574s | there's a decline then start drops there |
| 4576s | is another pick I think this is like |
| 4578s | people spending um on the Brawlers or |
| 4582s | whatever or actually |
| 4584s | no it's because BR pass has two month uh |
| 4587s | yeah delay so there's there's that's why |
| 4589s | there's always decline then hyper charge |
| 4592s | of course here we added more syns uh to |
| 4595s | coins but still the Baseline is higher |
| 4598s | and then if you look at December with |
| 4600s | the Broly days and community events it's |
| 4602s | actually bad more than the the Mastery |
| 4606s | update so coins we are give you more |
| 4608s | coins |
| 4610s | overall yeah and and this just shows |
| 4612s | like coins right and we |
| 4614s | a lot more than just coins like we give |
| 4616s | out way more star Powers at random |
| 4619s | gadgets hyper like we give out like I |
| 4622s | think we were having a discussion it was |
| 4624s | like more we give out like more than |
| 4626s | three hyperchargers every update like |
| 4628s | something like that number of legendar |
| 4630s | are putting out yeah yeah yeah probably |
| 4632s | more now right like so we give out a ton |
| 4634s | like this is just coins right like we |
| 4636s | give out a ton more |
| 4638s | y |
| 4640s | um ah yeah cool um then actually I'm |
| 4645s | going through social media does it |
| 4646s | matter I don't know but now it's Reddit |
| 4648s | session before it was Twitter |
| 4651s | sure silent blueberry uh do you have |
| 4654s | plans of improving the bonus rewards at |
| 4656s | the end of the BR pass because right now |
| 4659s | 1,600 battle XP seemings too much for |
| 4662s | one run star drop if you're not going to |
| 4664s | change it why so also are you going to |
| 4666s | improve star drops in general at some |
| 4668s | point |
| 4670s | um I think the perception like maybe |
| 4674s | leaning into what Frank said earlier |
| 4676s | like what we want is we want players to |
| 4679s | finish the brawl pass like we design it |
| 4681s | in a way where the brawl pass is like |
| 4683s | super enjoyable and and you get through |
| 4685s | it and you get rewarded really well like |
| 4687s | the tail reward is actually just for |
| 4689s | like you know Super Hyper engaged |
| 4692s | players right it's not your main form of |
| 4694s | reward so um yeah it is it is kind of |
| 4698s | 1600 to be there kind of for something |
| 4701s | you know if if you're going to play a |
| 4703s | lot lot hey there's something there for |
| 4705s | you but it is not meant to be like your |
| 4707s | main former reward and it it's not |
| 4709s | something we're going to because if we |
| 4710s | lean into it then we're saying like no |
| 4713s | everyone we don't want you to just |
| 4714s | finish the battle pass we want you to |
| 4716s | grind the heck out of you know this tail |
| 4718s | reward which is not our intention right |
| 4720s | so we wanted you to finish the battle |
| 4722s | pass have a great time doing that and |
| 4723s | then come back next month for the for |
| 4725s | the new new battle pass right so and |
| 4727s | then that's her main goal so so the tail |
| 4729s | reward is kind of just a I don't know |
| 4731s | how how to say it maybe just like a |
| 4734s | don't feel too bad for to continue |
| 4736s | playing right so you get something for |
| 4738s | the XP basically and I think we just |
| 4740s | looked at the coin graph yeah so so |
| 4744s | like what what you see startups what we |
| 4748s | see is X |
| 4751s | currency so so we we feel we're actually |
| 4754s | in a pretty good spot with the |
| 4755s | currencies right now we touched on |
| 4757s | PowerPoints maybe for some people too |
| 4759s | much but but in general like there's no |
| 4764s | no feeling of we're giving out too |
| 4765s | little at the moment and you saw that |
| 4768s | like uh even now with improved numbers |
| 4772s | only 22% of free-to-play players are |
| 4774s | reaching the tail end yeah at all 20 22% |
| 4777s | of freeto playay players and even from |
| 4779s | the paid play 95% reach the tailent |
| 4783s | so it's it's really like a an |
| 4787s | interesting balance to strike so I guess |
| 4789s | we are we're we're seeing quite a lot of |
| 4791s | ideas and proposals on Reddit on Twitter |
| 4795s | about like ah we could do this feature |
| 4796s | or that feature and all of them lead to |
| 4799s | getting more rewards yeah which is |
| 4801s | natural to ask for but but us giving out |
| 4805s | more rewards in any places would just |
| 4808s | mean that we have to balance the whole |
| 4810s | thing in the background so if we give |
| 4813s | give out more |
| 4814s | stardrops because we have more like the |
| 4817s | cost would be lower on the tail end then |
| 4820s | that would just lead to a situation |
| 4821s | where the start drups will probably have |
| 4822s | slightly less content yeah which then |
| 4825s | also would feel bad yeah so so because |
| 4827s | again like we feel we're in a pretty |
| 4829s | good spot now with the balancing of |
| 4831s | currencies of of course it's a job that |
| 4833s | never really ends yeah no um but but |
| 4837s | yeah like balancing in general yes but I |
| 4840s | also think uh because like let's say we |
| 4843s | we agree with the community like ah we |
| 4845s | are giving too little and then we just |
| 4847s | increase the battle pass or whatever we |
| 4849s | give we put more resources there it |
| 4851s | wouldn't have any meaningful impact for |
| 4854s | us however when we run a community event |
| 4857s | where we inject more rewards to make |
| 4859s | this event more fun we have more players |
| 4861s | engaged so it's basically like using the |
| 4863s | same amount of rewards we have but in |
| 4866s | more smarter places right so like we |
| 4868s | have a better benefit um of um of how we |
| 4872s | use that and and like I I said in |
| 4875s | another podcast but um the resources we |
| 4880s | give away during these events they are |
| 4882s | not b es they are like they come from a |
| 4885s | budget of resources we want to give out |
| 4888s | throughout the year right it's like um |
| 4891s | is Imagine like we have a a mega Pig we |
| 4894s | have imagine they have like a a a |
| 4896s | massive pool of resources and this is |
| 4898s | like is is limited like we can't give |
| 4901s | out more than what we have there and |
| 4903s | then we have to distribute across the |
| 4905s | throughout the year like what will be |
| 4907s | like the best way to do it in a in a way |
| 4910s | that sometimes we have can have like |
| 4912s | these um surprising moments where you |
| 4915s | feel a lot more rewarded than rather |
| 4918s | than if it was like injected in stard |
| 4919s | drops or in the |
| 4921s | pests |
| 4922s | um anyway he had the following question |
| 4925s | which was like Improvement to Star |
| 4927s | drops um I don't think there is anything |
| 4930s | in line at the moment like there is some |
| 4932s | desires I think yeah we have a bunch of |
| 4934s | items they're like quality of life to |
| 4937s | kind of you know slightly bigger changes |
| 4940s | but you know again like they don't |
| 4941s | really make the cut in terms a priority |
| 4943s | right now against all the other cool |
| 4945s | stuff that we because they're already |
| 4946s | working as well like they're they're in |
| 4949s | a okay place and again also when we talk |
| 4951s | about |
| 4953s | improvements again improvements would |
| 4955s | not mean more rewards true yeah so so |
| 4958s | it's like it's compar connected to the |
| 4961s | other question uh he Ori asked is |
| 4964s | like like if you think of improvements |
| 4967s | as I'm getting |
| 4969s | more uh no we when we talk about |
| 4973s | improvements we think like what else |
| 4975s | would could we do with stard drops not |
| 4977s | not how much more could we put into |
| 4979s | stard drops |
| 4981s | yeah um slightly related to XP more Ula |
| 4987s | XP doublers are basically worthless now |
| 4990s | any plans to re then or make then |
| 4992s | actually useful yeah Jeff you grind 1.6k |
| 4996s | to tokens to open a start drop and get |
| 4998s | 100 |
| 4999s | back I mean they're basically |
| 5001s | worthless no they're not worthless I |
| 5004s | think um I think the benefit of the XP |
| 5008s | doublers which is a much more intuitive |
| 5010s | name um is uh they kind of help you feel |
| 5014s | better about just playing the game on a |
| 5016s | normal basis right just getting twice as |
| 5018s | many XP yeah like that feels pretty good |
| 5021s | like it's a it's a nice you know it's |
| 5022s | not the most exciting reward but it's a |
| 5023s | nice filler reward for your daily |
| 5025s | engagement um and we kind of answered |
| 5027s | the |
| 5029s | 1.6 XP doublers question already right |
| 5032s | about the tail drop it's not it's not |
| 5033s | the focus rewards yeah yeah there also I |
| 5037s | think there's also like |
| 5039s | the the one of the key things key |
| 5043s | features about randomized rewards is |
| 5046s | that some of those randomized rewards |
| 5048s | will be lower in value and others will |
| 5050s | be higher in value because the the |
| 5053s | implication of saying oh I should get at |
| 5055s | least a uh 1600 XP back that would also |
| 5059s | mean you're never getting more worth |
| 5061s | than 1600 XP yeah yeah in total values |
| 5064s | so it's like so forget legendary BRS or |
| 5067s | hyper charge mhm so that's that's that's |
| 5070s | the random in Randomness yeah yeah we |
| 5073s | tend to remember kind of the the lowest |
| 5076s | points and and think about that first |
| 5078s | right so like when you get the 200 token |
| 5081s | doublers after earning 1,600 you'll |
| 5084s | probably remember that yeah but you know |
| 5086s | when you get you know like a bunch of |
| 5088s | hyperchargers or Star Powers you know |
| 5091s | you're probably that's not going to come |
| 5093s | up in your mind when you need to |
| 5095s | complain about something yeah and I |
| 5096s | think that's a good segue to how things |
| 5099s | are |
| 5100s | perceived as a human being cuz like you |
| 5103s | do remember things that affect you |
| 5106s | emotionally in a strong way right so |
| 5109s | like if you get like 50 coins you won't |
| 5112s | remember that drop you remember the one |
| 5114s | that I don't know um you open a |
| 5116s | legendary and you got like 50 uh 500 |
| 5119s | credits that went to fame that will |
| 5121s | stick to your mind like you remember the |
| 5123s | negative experience and goes the same |
| 5124s | for balance right as I said like Maisy |
| 5126s | was strong nobody car about her when she |
| 5128s | was released but when kit was released |
| 5131s | and it was like devastating everyone in |
| 5132s | Showdown that sticks in your mind and |
| 5135s | that's why it it seemings that all |
| 5138s | Brawlers that release are broken but |
| 5140s | it's because our memory only um connects |
| 5144s | the strong moments like they forget dog |
| 5147s | they forget Maisy they forget Carl yeah |
| 5150s | um they do forget about Carl |
| 5154s | never forget never forget but that's why |
| 5157s | uh that's why the complaints are always |
| 5160s | so vocal right because it's really tied |
| 5162s | on the emotion for sure but it's also |
| 5163s | super subjective it is it's like you're |
| 5166s | saying getting upset about 500 credits |
| 5168s | into your Fame like I'm I'm genuinely |
| 5172s | because my account is always maxed I'm |
| 5174s | always maxed in my account so for me |
| 5176s | growing my fame is like it's it's it's |
| 5179s | literally one of the progression systems |
| 5180s | I'm looking at yeah every every day so |
| 5183s | I'm disappointed when I get 1,000 coins |
| 5186s | I'm like Jeff Jeff where where's my 500 |
| 5189s | credits so I'd love to get these big fat |
| 5192s | credit drops wink wink it's uh ah yeah |
| 5196s | it's a painful Point hey I I want to say |
| 5198s | one more thing about the XP doublers |
| 5200s | yeah we are reviewing the the pricing |
| 5204s | yeah yay it's won to be a massive change |
| 5206s | though no no not a massive change but |
| 5209s | but uh I mean we surely agree that the |
| 5214s | the old pricing for the gems for 1,000 |
| 5218s | XP was off by a little bit yeah yeah |
| 5221s | that was definitely oversight for sure |
| 5222s | yeah we'll correct that like we do going |
| 5225s | to be |
| 5226s | fixed k k Cy too many consonants |
| 5233s | although the game has two Gadget and |
| 5234s | star power for some characters like |
| 5235s | Ottis buzz and Gro uh this choice is |
| 5239s | very OB um this is very obvious for some |
| 5241s | options are clear is stronger than |
| 5243s | others why does it take so long to |
| 5245s | balance this issue especially for ones |
| 5247s | that everyone's know are uses like RT |
| 5249s | Gadget shout out to |
| 5252s | RT I mean this is a great question um |
| 5256s | the long story short is proration but |
| 5258s | let me go a little bit deeper than that |
| 5260s | so I'm also by the way interested how |
| 5262s | bus was mentioned here because the other |
| 5263s | star power for example for bus is really |
| 5265s | good had a conversation we talked about |
| 5267s | it today that's why it's on top of mine |
| 5269s | anyway pass the point um some star |
| 5273s | powers and gadgets are obviously more |
| 5274s | situational and therefore will feel |
| 5276s | worse but it's also easy to kind of get |
| 5280s | stuck in that mindset that okay this is |
| 5281s | just a better star power this just a |
| 5283s | better Gadget but like experimentation |
| 5285s | especially on on some maps you can see |
| 5287s | from the data as well that hey this less |
| 5290s | popular thing has a much higher win rate |
| 5292s | for example um so I would be careful by |
| 5296s | calling something useless just by |
| 5297s | looking at it that being said that being |
| 5301s | said RT's inline is definitely useless |
| 5305s | and and that's that's my bad um I think |
| 5308s | we talked about this in another podcast |
| 5309s | even but regardless all of these things |
| 5312s | that are basically lagging behind or |
| 5313s | that didn't nail The Mark with the first |
| 5315s | design is something we want to address |
| 5318s | the problem is when we have time to |
| 5319s | address it because let's say we would |
| 5322s | want to address all of them well then |
| 5323s | maybe we can't make a new brawler for a |
| 5325s | few seasons and that's not sustainable |
| 5328s | um so we need to think okay we have to |
| 5330s | do the musab so Brawlers hyperchargers |
| 5332s | for for example and if we have time then |
| 5334s | we have paration list of okay this is |
| 5336s | the first Gadget we want to rework this |
| 5338s | is the first braw we want to rework this |
| 5340s | is you know whatever it is um so we do |
| 5342s | agree of course there are plenty of |
| 5344s | these items that we would like to get to |
| 5347s | um but it's just about when can we get |
| 5348s | to them |
| 5349s | reasonably yeah do you think AR Gadget |
| 5354s | is a a number problem what if like |
| 5358s | immediately kills I think even if it |
| 5360s | would one shot everyone in TW it might |
| 5363s | still be bad crazily enough it's that |
| 5366s | poorly designed yeah I can say that cuz |
| 5368s | I designed it but because the concept is |
| 5371s | so good right that like you connect yeah |
| 5373s | it would be but you could do it like the |
| 5374s | other way or like you switch but there's |
| 5376s | so many different I remember the |
| 5378s | creation I was like yeah that's actually |
| 5379s | cool yeah I thought it was really clever |
| 5382s | but it wasn't any way uh wasn't it |
| 5387s | wasn't I think there's also like the new |
| 5390s | and more recently I think we started |
| 5392s | started looking at gadgets and Starbucks |
| 5394s | in a bit different way than we did did |
| 5396s | traditionally traditionally it was a lot |
| 5398s | about novelty M and now it's more |
| 5401s | focused around play Styles yeah so more |
| 5404s | more recently like we're focusing on |
| 5406s | having typically like one Gadget one |
| 5409s | star power One play style one Gadget and |
| 5411s | star power different play style so I |
| 5414s | think that it's emphasized in in |
| 5416s | Brothers like Duck you see |
| 5417s | it very strongly you know one is very |
| 5420s | much like I I want to hurt you and the |
| 5423s | other one is I want to heal you wow and |
| 5426s | so so the different play Styles I think |
| 5430s | it's just a cool angle for gadgets and |
| 5431s | star Powers because that allows us to |
| 5434s | ultimately fill two roles with one |
| 5436s | brawler or two slightly different play |
| 5438s | Styles yeah so I think um so I think |
| 5441s | we're getting better at this in general |
| 5443s | for sure and I think if we look at the |
| 5445s | let's say star power and Gadget |
| 5447s | distribution kind of graphs that we have |
| 5448s | maybe we can pull one up even but like |
| 5451s | um you know how many people use one of |
| 5453s | the other we don't have nearly as many |
| 5455s | outliers as we did let's say a year ago |
| 5457s | or or a year before that like it's been |
| 5459s | improving um constantly and we're going |
| 5461s | to keep improving |
| 5463s | it um Ken D soen is that German this |
| 5469s | king of the socks that's what it sounded |
| 5472s | like yeah yeah it's king of the socks |
| 5473s | that's a great name amazing uh what are |
| 5475s | your upcoming plans if any to improve |
| 5477s | the mega Pig experience playing 20 |
| 5479s | matches it's 15 by the way uh Wai think |
| 5482s | three days uh once a month for |
| 5484s | randomized rewards was not a big |
| 5486s | Improvement in my |
| 5487s | opinion geograph |
| 5490s | yay show a I like it should have a pull |
| 5494s | up the |
| 5495s | receipts wow wow Jeff those are some |
| 5499s | pretty nice |
| 5501s | numbers so let's |
| 5503s | explain are you want to do you want to |
| 5505s | explain no I think Jeff can I |
| 5507s | can well like I think for us one of the |
| 5512s | main reasons why we reworked uh Club |
| 5515s | League into currently MEAP |
| 5518s | pic is how many people participated in |
| 5522s | the events you know when when when you |
| 5525s | look at our whole player |
| 5528s | base and as you see there on the left |
| 5530s | before we introduced the MEAP Peg those |
| 5533s | were the participation rates on specific |
| 5536s | days around the event and as you can |
| 5539s | tell it's less than 10% of our players |
| 5543s | which participated at any given time |
| 5545s | yeah and it was the same it was the same |
| 5548s | if you look longer yeah it's even |
| 5549s | trending down towards the |
| 5552s | end um so there there were a ton of |
| 5555s | rewards but it wasn't distributed |
| 5558s | properly because for the majority of |
| 5559s | players it was just not attractive |
| 5561s | enough and and that we wanted to fix and |
| 5565s | we fixed it with a mega pick which is a |
| 5568s | much lighter commitment for people um as |
| 5571s | you said is now just one weekend per |
| 5575s | month um we reduce the amount of uh |
| 5578s | tickets |
| 5580s | required and yeah the engagement looks |
| 5583s | much much better as you can tell from |
| 5584s | the graphs on the right there was some a |
| 5586s | little bit of fatigue when we introduced |
| 5588s | it initially and ran it for four |
| 5590s | weeks |
| 5592s | um but yeah now the participation rates |
| 5594s | are way up are looking super healthy |
| 5597s | people obviously like to try out the new |
| 5600s | uh the new modifiers |
| 5602s | it's like yeah we're just reaching much |
| 5605s | more people and in parallel all those |
| 5607s | extra resources they're not gone they're |
| 5609s | just redistributed as dannie pointed out |
| 5611s | to other community events or part of |
| 5614s | that went into the brw pass which again |
| 5616s | is much more predictable for people to |
| 5618s | unlock and participate in so yeah we |
| 5621s | feel really good with it I know it's |
| 5623s | it's controversial for the hardcore |
| 5626s | people because they in the the 10% down |
| 5629s | there yeah and of course like it's hard |
| 5631s | to visualize is that like once you had |
| 5633s | loud resources here in this shop right |
| 5635s | and now they are like in the mega Pig |
| 5637s | and then across community events like |
| 5639s | you need you need really to be a |
| 5641s | mathematician to do the calculation and |
| 5644s | see if you are actually uh getting more |
| 5646s | but as as we show to the coin |
| 5650s | um coin inject coin receival what's the |
| 5654s | word outflows or yeah outlow inflow |
| 5657s | anyway how many coins you received uh on |
| 5660s | a day like you can see that growing the |
| 5662s | Baseline is always income it was right |
| 5666s | there coin income like it's increasing |
| 5669s | uh across uh throughout the year |
| 5672s | hopefully not too much because then |
| 5673s | you're going to be wor oh |
| 5676s | yeah I feel like a lot of players are |
| 5679s | like kind of really focused on like oh |
| 5680s | what how much am I getting how how long |
| 5682s | is going to take me to complete X right |
| 5685s | and you're thinking like |
| 5686s | wait Mega Pig's rewards were so nerfed |
| 5690s | how could this be they must be lying |
| 5692s | right and I think the realization is you |
| 5694s | know actually Adrian reminded me of this |
| 5696s | today or yesterday when we were talking |
| 5699s | about like you know future uh future |
| 5701s | stuff like when we were looking at Club |
| 5704s | League like we start from the gameplay |
| 5706s | first right we were like hey what's |
| 5707s | going to be more fun and these modifiers |
| 5710s | seems like a great way to do it not only |
| 5713s | because they're exciting and they switch |
| 5714s | up the gameplay but you know each Mega |
| 5716s | pig in the future we can introduce more |
| 5718s | mods switch things out you know surprise |
| 5720s | surprise people and I think that's kind |
| 5722s | of you know the result of the gamep |
| 5724s | playay being more fun right like having |
| 5726s | a li on and having a a leaderboard in |
| 5728s | your club and kind of have some having |
| 5730s | some friendly competition right like |
| 5732s | having those sweaty a matches like |
| 5733s | that's all that's that's like brawl |
| 5735s | Stars you know and um yeah like you know |
| 5738s | rewards are redistributed to other |
| 5740s | places even if you know you might get a |
| 5742s | bunch of XP doublers from a pig it |
| 5745s | happens but you know you can also get a |
| 5747s | bunch of legendary Brothers right so |
| 5749s | yeah and we actually our goal for the |
| 5751s | MEAP Pig our success criteria whenever |
| 5754s | we develop a new feature we have some |
| 5757s | some performance indicators in mind and |
| 5760s | our goal for the MEAP pic was to reach |
| 5762s | 20% of |
| 5764s | players and we we pretty much doubled |
| 5767s | that we went to 40% so it's like four |
| 5770s | times more people |
| 5771s | engaging um yeah and also like I think I |
| 5775s | forgot to mention like but we actually |
| 5777s | mentioned on the start drop podcast that |
| 5779s | they go for Star drops or like MEAP pig |
| 5781s | or anything that we are adding is like |
| 5783s | to |
| 5784s | Democrat democratize democratize the |
| 5786s | rewards because before we have like the |
| 5789s | reach becoming too rich and then the |
| 5791s | poor like being too poor like so then |
| 5794s | they are not getting enough like so the |
| 5796s | Casual players were not getting enough |
| 5798s | rewards and now with mega Pig start |
| 5800s | drops they are actually getting a lot |
| 5803s | more than before and if you are really |
| 5805s | active you are still getting more than |
| 5806s | the casuals so like uh it's just like |
| 5808s | not as much as before but um |
| 5812s | but yeah so like we are really ha really |
| 5815s | happy with the uh situation we are in |
| 5819s | now because we believe that the |
| 5821s | retention and everything our growth is |
| 5823s | actually like this is part of the growth |
| 5825s | as well right because like casual feel |
| 5828s | more rewarded therefore they will play |
| 5830s | more and then they invite their friends |
| 5831s | and blah blah blah uh and then the super |
| 5833s | hardcore they will stick there with us |
| 5836s | they're still getting more yeah they're |
| 5838s | still getting more right if you're if |
| 5840s | you're a hardcore player you will get |
| 5842s | 100% of the possible rewards every Mega |
| 5844s | pick yeah and and so yeah and maximize |
| 5848s | community events like if you play more |
| 5850s | and something this CR doesn't really |
| 5851s | show is but whenever we do run a mega |
| 5854s | pick so that weekend the whole weekend |
| 5857s | activity of players goes up that's true |
| 5859s | so it's like so it's not only that the |
| 5862s | the percentage is high of the people who |
| 5864s | are there there's also more people who |
| 5866s | lock in the game in the first place so |
| 5869s | having this event like once a month for |
| 5872s | most people it's much more friendly and |
| 5874s | to play those 15 matches over a weekend |
| 5877s | it's much more friendly for most people |
| 5879s | it's scheduled yeah so then than having |
| 5882s | like basically every week every day to |
| 5886s | play to get those rewards which again is |
| 5889s | is not that's not how most people play |
| 5891s | brao stars yeah yeah and like we have |
| 5894s | like we do have a list of improvements |
| 5896s | we want to do yeah we talk about a lot |
| 5898s | we read all the feedback there's |
| 5900s | definitely things we want to improve but |
| 5902s | again just a priority question on you |
| 5904s | know it's weight against everything else |
| 5905s | we have to do and I I think one of the |
| 5907s | most valid things you know is the |
| 5910s | duration right like a month is really |
| 5912s | long but I think the long-term intention |
| 5914s | is always hey we want to add something |
| 5916s | different something new on other weeks |
| 5918s | right and eventually you know it'll feel |
| 5920s | a lot different in the future yeah we'd |
| 5923s | like to have more more things for clubs |
| 5925s | to do as well yeah for sure |
| 5927s | sure |
| 5930s | uh juy Zack uh why do we get credits out |
| 5935s | of star drops when we have all Brawlers |
| 5938s | and is there plan to expand Fame I guess |
| 5941s | improve or change |
| 5944s | Fame so when when you're when you're at |
| 5947s | the end if first again it's an outlier |
| 5949s | to have all the brers unlocked yeah it's |
| 5952s | it's a pretty rare occurrence there |
| 5954s | needs to be a we talked about Fame in |
| 5956s | the past yes like why why we have that |
| 5958s | system so so I won't go too deep in |
| 5961s | there look at the previous time to |
| 5963s | explain um so the fame system for us |
| 5966s | it's it's important because there will |
| 5968s | always have to be like an end funnel of |
| 5971s | sorts uh else people will just creep up |
| 5974s | currency like it happens for PowerPoints |
| 5976s | for some people so there needs to be |
| 5978s | like a sync some some place you can put |
| 5981s | that extra |
| 5982s | currency |
| 5984s | and well the the second part of the |
| 5986s | question I think we also talked about |
| 5988s | already publicly yeah is that we're |
| 5990s | going to change |
| 5992s | uh or improve Fame with the coming |
| 5995s | update it's going to be really cool I |
| 5997s | think sneak pick moment seems like |
| 5999s | there's a great segue |
| 6003s | for well that one was already announced |
| 6006s | okay okay so doesn't count yeah but uh |
| 6009s | maybe you can expand uh a bit um so it's |
| 6014s | confirmed it's like ah should I the name |
| 6017s | of the feature change big big plot twist |
| 6020s | it's not frame anymore oh yeah cuz in |
| 6022s | the communication was we called Fram |
| 6024s | it's not called |
| 6025s | frames and it's not called what we're |
| 6027s | thinking |
| 6028s | about it's called we discussed the names |
| 6031s | a lot no battle card background isn't |
| 6035s | just battle cards battle cards we don't |
| 6037s | even we still don't |
| 6039s | know we discussed it for reference for |
| 6042s | the community we discussed this a lot |
| 6044s | yeah this stupid |
| 6046s | name naming is hard L probably a week of |
| 6049s | development time yeah but then like when |
| 6052s | you go into a battle your battle card |
| 6053s | will change based on our Fame and it's |
| 6056s | really beautiful we like we we had like |
| 6059s | when uh Gonzalo was showing to us like |
| 6061s | we are like wow we had a wow moment we |
| 6063s | did have a big wow yeah so it's really |
| 6065s | cool so basically we will allow you to |
| 6067s | show off your Fame rank a little bit |
| 6070s | more than in the past like of course |
| 6072s | it's still cosmetic like you're not |
| 6073s | getting progression out of that because |
| 6075s | if you have all the Brawlers you're good |
| 6077s | in |
| 6078s | progression but uh but then uh maybe I |
| 6082s | saw a suggestion sorry I saw a |
| 6083s | suggestion which was like you should it |
| 6086s | should be become cheaper to unlock more |
| 6088s | Brawlers ah but you already maxed and we |
| 6091s | should like or increase drop chances for |
| 6095s | Star drops and stuff like this I would |
| 6097s | can like get 1.1 coins or something like |
| 6100s | that you know like a bonus but like |
| 6102s | Brawlers is exactly the thing you don't |
| 6104s | need anyway yeah but it's like it's |
| 6107s | really cool cosmetics and then you can |
| 6109s | show off those things and let's see like |
| 6110s | if people people start uh putting those |
| 6115s | Cosmetics into Fame on their battle card |
| 6118s | now and the |
| 6121s | other sneak peek is power League rework |
| 6127s | do you want to talk about it or do you |
| 6128s | want to all right yeah po league is dead |
| 6131s | you want to talk about it no icept my |
| 6132s | piece all right po league is dead yeah |
| 6134s | yeah so par League's dead no more power |
| 6137s | League it is of you that's |
| 6140s | it |
| 6142s | game tropy inflation yeah yeah just yeah |
| 6146s | Embrace trophy inflation I guess like |
| 6148s | some things uh we can say like it's one |
| 6150s | month long like it will follow the the |
| 6153s | new BR pass because we felt that's a |
| 6155s | good Pace to to progress it doesn't get |
| 6158s | boring V is working on the rewards so |
| 6161s | you know if you don't like |
| 6162s | it throw him under the bus he here no |
| 6165s | it's going to be awesome like I I think |
| 6167s | they're really exciting uh you there |
| 6169s | going to be way more than current power |
| 6172s | League yeah uh and you're going to be |
| 6175s | getting it every month so it's going to |
| 6176s | feel a lot better um I think maybe the |
| 6180s | gameplay piece you know Adrian can talk |
| 6182s | about actually yeah I mean we're we're |
| 6184s | going to try something pretty wild um |
| 6187s | with with with new ranked system we're |
| 6189s | going to try to have modifiers in ranked |
| 6191s | not the ones you're used to by the way I |
| 6193s | think importantly for us is that they |
| 6194s | stay competitive and not RNG based so |
| 6197s | they should be predictable so for |
| 6198s | example you won't have one team's map |
| 6200s | covered in no and the other ones not |
| 6202s | stuff like that so when we make these |
| 6204s | modifiers we want the games to play out |
| 6205s | differently they want we want you to |
| 6207s | influence what Brawlers you want to pick |
| 6209s | depending on the mode the map |
| 6212s | composition and the modifier so it's |
| 6214s | basically another layer of skill |
| 6216s | expression like can you adapt to also a |
| 6219s | modifier and that should also feel much |
| 6221s | fresher because no single map will play |
| 6224s | the same because a modifier will make it |
| 6225s | play completely differently yeah cuz |
| 6228s | that's an issue I think we identified |
| 6229s | from the old uh Power leag system is |
| 6231s | once you kind of went through the map |
| 6232s | rotation you kind of got a little bit |
| 6234s | bored of it there was no surprises |
| 6236s | really you know you know what the good |
| 6237s | picks are at any given time that's it |
| 6240s | but um but with with modifiers that |
| 6242s | should change up a lot and of course you |
| 6244s | know some modifiers might work out great |
| 6246s | some might not we have the opportunity |
| 6248s | to scale it on the fly so if there's |
| 6251s | something that just simply won't work |
| 6253s | we're not going to you know stick with |
| 6254s | it and we're going to keep changing them |
| 6256s | as we go yeah and I think like we can go |
| 6258s | deeper like bro talk is coming two no I |
| 6262s | don't know when it's going to be |
| 6263s | released but it's coming at soon and |
| 6267s | then I'll go deep into the feature but |
| 6269s | also like we are addressing a lot of |
| 6271s | complaints about the uh current uh Power |
| 6274s | League which is like players picking |
| 6277s | lowlevel brothers or a report system yay |
| 6280s | we are actually working on the report |
| 6283s | system and and then a bit more casual |
| 6286s | for the casuals it's like the the first |
| 6290s | um |
| 6292s | the what it say the first ranks it's not |
| 6294s | going to be like the Banning fa having |
| 6297s | Banning phase and like a a peak phase |
| 6299s | for each player yeah cuz like it was |
| 6301s | like you actually talked about that on |
| 6303s | the on another episode there was like |
| 6305s | such a big gap from a trophy game to a |
| 6308s | power league mode right so there is not |
| 6309s | a smooth transition yeah so now we made |
| 6312s | the first ranks uh a bit easier or like |
| 6315s | smooter and then we we kept the hardcore |
| 6318s | like the competitive mode towards uh |
| 6321s | uh diamond diamond diamond up Diamond up |
| 6325s | yeah so like |
| 6326s | um hopefully we'll see a lot more |
| 6329s | players playing y this but it it it |
| 6332s | looks really promising yeah and maybe |
| 6334s | just on kind of back to mods for a bit |
| 6336s | like like we I think we care a lot about |
| 6339s | kind of the competitive Integrity if you |
| 6341s | will of the game right like you know we |
| 6343s | all love the Esports stuff and we're all |
| 6346s | competitive players and I I think |
| 6348s | there's a really we talked about I think |
| 6351s | there's a intuitive reaction to mods |
| 6353s | like oh man you're rude everyone in the |
| 6355s | team had the same reaction everybody was |
| 6357s | like wait this is a bad idea right yeah |
| 6359s | and I think there's a the and the reason |
| 6361s | why we're doing it is there there's two |
| 6363s | re well one is like Adrian touched on |
| 6364s | like we're going to be redesigning and |
| 6366s | introducing new mods and they're not |
| 6368s | going to be like Mega Pig right they're |
| 6369s | going to be designed for competitive and |
| 6372s | the other thing is like from just from a |
| 6374s | design perspective like when you have |
| 6376s | something random happening during the |
| 6378s | game like with that's out of your |
| 6379s | control like you can't do much about it |
| 6381s | and that feels bad for competitive but |
| 6383s | for mods it's it's input Randomness |
| 6386s | right like you know about the randomness |
| 6388s | and then you get to make decisions in |
| 6389s | terms of which baller you pick who you |
| 6391s | ban and how you decide to play in the |
| 6393s | match and the match stays consistent so |
| 6395s | there's no output Randomness right so so |
| 6399s | because of that like we're more |
| 6400s | confident in in trying to trying to do |
| 6402s | this yeah and then they have another |
| 6405s | sneak peek here should I raise this |
| 6406s | thing raise it ra can you |
| 6409s | though are you |
| 6413s | worthy can you add some effects team |
| 6418s | oh whatever that means we should have |
| 6420s | left it on the table actually the whole |
| 6422s | time oh I can put it there no you can |
| 6424s | yeah we can leave leave cool is it too |
| 6427s | bad |
| 6428s | team yeah probably cuts into the screen |
| 6432s | take this away from |
| 6433s | you they know better um but actually you |
| 6438s | probably know because this ping is |
| 6439s | actually already this ping is already in |
| 6442s | the game so everything makes sense now |
| 6444s | but that's that's all does it make sense |
| 6446s | that's all it's pretty mysterious stuff |
| 6448s | I don't know |
| 6450s | yeah sneak peeks over oh wow like that |
| 6453s | so blunt on the braw talk soon yes and |
| 6457s | smash through that yeah keep going with |
| 6461s | the hammer puns guys |
| 6464s | no um tardan T tarp Andale many players |
| 6469s | have noticed that some of some some new |
| 6471s | details in the life of brawlers from the |
| 6474s | description are slightly different from |
| 6476s | those that were once presented to us |
| 6478s | simply put was their LW red con oh NOS |
| 6482s | oh no uh is CCTV a separate part of the |
| 6484s | LW that does not belong to the uh |
| 6487s | investor video or the 2020 221 |
| 6491s | LW um like you still the star line is |
| 6495s | irrelevant the question is the same as |
| 6497s | the first one uh it's the same question |
| 6500s | like did the law |
| 6502s | change and the question is no no high |
| 6504s | level no high level no but I'd like to |
| 6507s | I'd like to say especially with the |
| 6508s | brawler descriptions I think when |
| 6512s | we the the brawler descriptions are way |
| 6514s | older in most cases than than our |
| 6518s | Ambitions for the law for the game uh |
| 6521s | the the law what you see the current |
| 6523s | continuation of things is it's simply |
| 6526s | what's what has been planned for a while |
| 6528s | but the description of the Brawlers have |
| 6530s | been out |
| 6531s | outdated and we finally had time to fix |
| 6534s | it it's one of these quality of life |
| 6535s | changes being somewhere on a backlog |
| 6538s | true but yeah no yeah and the same thing |
| 6541s | like the investor video it is still part |
| 6543s | of the lore yes of the game right the |
| 6546s | CCTV is connected to that and um like |
| 6550s | when we create a brawler like what you |
| 6553s | see in the game is just like a very tiny |
| 6555s | fraction of what is like the rationale |
| 6557s | or the origin or everything that has |
| 6559s | been going with the brawler |
| 6561s | but when now uh Fernand like her team is |
| 6564s | creating uh the Brawlers she drops like |
| 6566s | a whole file of like the Ambitions and |
| 6570s | personality and everything about the |
| 6571s | brawler but then like we don't want to |
| 6573s | like just put out a list of hey this |
| 6576s | character is this and then we list uh |
| 6578s | the personality traits of the character |
| 6580s | we prefer to explore in like animations |
| 6582s | or like every time we do a a community |
| 6585s | um post on social is the brother doing |
| 6587s | something related to the personality |
| 6589s | like we are building then up with you |
| 6591s | guys and also you are making fun art and |
| 6594s | like uh I really like how in in BR talk |
| 6597s | like I do one line to define the brw |
| 6600s | personality and they make so much |
| 6602s | content already about this one line |
| 6604s | right yeah so but that's really cool |
| 6609s | yeah um |
| 6614s | b b cat I don't |
| 6618s | know oh this is the the angry dude like |
| 6621s | um I wanted to I picked this question uh |
| 6626s | specifically just to show like how the |
| 6628s | emotion is driving you to the wrong path |
| 6631s | not only like on how you are expressing |
| 6634s | yourself or how you're expressing it but |
| 6637s | also like how far from reality it is |
| 6640s | actually like we are here like I wish I |
| 6643s | could invite this player here like sit |
| 6645s | here down with us like who hurt you like |
| 6648s | why why are so mad like this is a game |
| 6650s | right it's just a game and then we are |
| 6652s | here to explain how games are made and |
| 6654s | our decision and everything uh and then |
| 6656s | we are open to be transparent with every |
| 6659s | decision we we take uh so I'm going like |
| 6662s | through the he has a lot of questions |
| 6665s | here I'm going through all of then uh so |
| 6668s | like he starts with why did you suddenly |
| 6670s | take the game in such an unfair |
| 6673s | unbalanced and wh Centric Direction in |
| 6675s | the past year it's like we already show |
| 6678s | that it's not whale Centric because |
| 6680s | conver is going higher and that's our |
| 6682s | goal on how we want to um uh monetize |
| 6686s | the game |
| 6687s | better unfair is very subjective I don't |
| 6691s | know what exactly it's meaning it's just |
| 6693s | like a a word that has a lot of power |
| 6695s | and doesn't mean much right uh unbalance |
| 6698s | like we have a couple of rollers that |
| 6700s | are broken like those are outliers like |
| 6702s | we have another uh 70 or how do we have |
| 6705s | now yeah a lot million yeah a lot of |
| 6709s | rollers and then we do have like |
| 6712s | comments and I think maybe Adrian can |
| 6714s | say better than me sometimes Adrian is |
| 6716s | praised as like oh my God the balance is |
| 6718s | the better the best I ever seen But then |
| 6722s | 10 days after it's like oh my God fire |
| 6725s | this guy yeah I mean I think that's fine |
| 6727s | I think that's natural |
| 6728s | because at the end of the day like |
| 6730s | recency bias plays a huge part in how we |
| 6733s | proceive our game like it doesn't matter |
| 6736s | if the game was perfect quote unquote a |
| 6738s | week ago like what you're feeling now is |
| 6741s | what matters right like and if we look |
| 6743s | at we suddenly made unbalanced Brawlers |
| 6746s | like we've had many cases in the past |
| 6748s | where some brers have been stronger than |
| 6749s | they should have been and we have had |
| 6751s | times where they were weaker than they |
| 6752s | should have been and sometimes we hit |
| 6754s | the nail on the head the first try and |
| 6755s | that's the really hard part but we're |
| 6757s | always going to try to get there um and |
| 6759s | at the end of the day as I said before |
| 6761s | what we're always going to do is fix it |
| 6763s | so if something comes out unbalanced or |
| 6765s | bad we're going to fix it MH no matter |
| 6768s | which way it yeah and then he Contin |
| 6770s | the game was hly perfect before the star |
| 6773s | drops and then if you see the da graph |
| 6778s | yeah we can show it again actually yeah |
| 6781s | we can show it |
| 6783s | again like like I would rather like a |
| 6788s | thousand times have the community a bit |
| 6790s | angry with us but having like five times |
| 6793s | more but having a community yeah yeah |
| 6796s | right that would be |
| 6797s | nice but having like five times more |
| 6800s | players than before cuz like when we |
| 6802s | were like at the end of The Bling update |
| 6804s | that was really woring for us like we |
| 6805s | were really like wor like yeah it was |
| 6808s | super worrying the G the game was going |
| 6810s | in a really bad Direction it's |
| 6812s | like and um yeah like uh now what what I |
| 6817s | feel is the problem is there are a lot |
| 6818s | of unaddressed problems in the community |
| 6821s | like I think what we need to do and I |
| 6823s | need to do more is communicate about |
| 6826s | everything more frequently because I |
| 6828s | think we've been maybe ignored ing then |
| 6831s | for too long at least like on the |
| 6832s | communication side and that's because we |
| 6835s | were working a lot on making the game |
| 6837s | better right and me involved um and now |
| 6840s | I think like maybe we can take a break |
| 6841s | and then may be more communic |
| 6843s | communicative no no breaks no breaks but |
| 6846s | there's also there's there's one more |
| 6848s | thing in that um post I'd like to it's |
| 6851s | not and a bunch of questions yeah I'd |
| 6854s | like to address which is this this |
| 6856s | misconception I see that on on |
| 6858s | especially on Reddit for some reason |
| 6860s | quite a bit it's like ah the suits made |
| 6862s | you do it yeah that's a it ends War |
| 6867s | suits it's it's |
| 6870s | like |
| 6872s | um the the tldd is it's not how |
| 6876s | supercell as a company functions and |
| 6878s | works what one of the special things |
| 6880s | about this company is that the games are |
| 6883s | made and steered from within the game |
| 6886s | teams so so game teams is is teams like |
| 6890s | my team here which is like so you have a |
| 6894s | manager on top that's me hi I'm the |
| 6897s | manager I'm the suit maybe I'm the |
| 6899s | closest the suit I am the closest to I |
| 6901s | thought you the janitor what what going |
| 6903s | on that's a career Jor to CEO no um so |
| 6909s | so we have we have |
| 6910s | teams um which which are structured |
| 6913s | around making the game and all the |
| 6914s | decisions for that game are made within |
| 6916s | the team 100% of the decisions for every |
| 6920s | superstar |
| 6921s | games are made within the team so we as |
| 6924s | a team discuss we're looking at these |
| 6926s | graphs and numbers an awful lot and |
| 6928s | trying to steer the game in the best |
| 6929s | possible |
| 6931s | direction again like we have millions of |
| 6933s | players it's impossible to make everyone |
| 6936s | happy and we understand that it's part |
| 6938s | of the business yeah but at the end of |
| 6940s | the day we we need to look what actually |
| 6942s | works and what doesn't work it's like |
| 6945s | when the the irony is of course like |
| 6947s | that after we introduce startups people |
| 6950s | was starting oh the game is dying or |
| 6952s | it's dead or whatever and it's like it's |
| 6955s | it's the opposite it's the polar |
| 6957s | opposite so whenever I see a post like |
| 6959s | that for me it's like dude I I can't I |
| 6963s | can't it's it's really hard for me to |
| 6965s | take it serious even even though there |
| 6967s | might be some valuable feedback |
| 6968s | somewhere there but i' I'd love our |
| 6972s | players out there to you know if you |
| 6974s | have feedback tell us exactly what you |
| 6976s | you think and why you think like it and |
| 6978s | then we can have a look but by the else |
| 6981s | it's really really difficult to give you |
| 6982s | you know like responses because I mean |
| 6986s | you you you literally see on those |
| 6988s | graphs what we are seeing yeah and and |
| 6990s | the game yeah is going in the right |
| 6993s | direction right now and that was like |
| 6996s | players right it's not like even |
| 6998s | monetization or anything it's like |
| 6999s | number of players that are coming to the |
| 7000s | game playing the game every day um the |
| 7003s | monetization graphs goes along with a |
| 7005s | diu graph right so if you have more |
| 7008s | players you make more money yes business |
| 7010s | that's simple as it is yeah don't don't |
| 7012s | be Edgar and use your outcry |
| 7017s | Gadget oh my God yeah that we have maybe |
| 7021s | this |
| 7024s | one I can continue ever since uh then |
| 7028s | every update has been devaluing the free |
| 7029s | to-play experience one way to another |
| 7032s | like the new pass actually improves |
| 7035s | because actually gives the ability to |
| 7037s | use gems on something else uh well you |
| 7041s | you you also saw like the the coin |
| 7043s | income uh graph we showed uh and every |
| 7046s | character this feels like they are |
| 7048s | deliberately designed to be overpowered |
| 7051s | Mo Money printers that you throw in the |
| 7053s | garbage a week or two afterwards like |
| 7057s | this is so disconnected from reality |
| 7060s | right like even if you think like the |
| 7062s | browser are deliberate design to be |
| 7064s | overpowered the rest of the message is |
| 7066s | not true Larry is to strong yeah still |
| 7069s | oh and and I think for me the F my |
| 7072s | favorite um example is when you reworked |
| 7074s | Penny yeah she was on the strong side |
| 7076s | also yeah and then we quick quickly Nerf |
| 7079s | her because we had a maintenance coming |
| 7081s | and they're like let's put the Nerf |
| 7083s | there and then people like oh my God |
| 7085s | they kill Penny blah and then she |
| 7087s | remained in The Meta for I don't know |
| 7088s | another year for sure yeah I mean it's |
| 7091s | it's very easy to feel emotional |
| 7093s | especially if he you know your favorite |
| 7095s | character for example that's getting a |
| 7096s | hit or or you know what whatnot it's |
| 7099s | really used to feel really hard done by |
| 7101s | so yeah then you mentioned did the suits |
| 7104s | uh think you were making a lot less |
| 7106s | money blah blah blah than other super |
| 7108s | titles and they man these |
| 7109s | changes uh and then I would like I would |
| 7113s | really like if you drop the and then |
| 7115s | just answer honestly that was it yeah |
| 7118s | just did that was it and and maybe it's |
| 7121s | uh like I think it's I think B is super |
| 7126s | passionate about braw which right like |
| 7128s | he just really cares about the game |
| 7130s | wants it to be awesome and I think you |
| 7132s | know we do too and we're literally |
| 7134s | trying to do that right we are trying to |
| 7136s | grow the game in terms of the player |
| 7138s | base like we're not here trying to like |
| 7140s | squeeze players for every single penny |
| 7142s | you know that's not that's not what |
| 7143s | we're here to do like we want brawl to |
| 7145s | be the biggest game right that's what |
| 7146s | we're trying to do and it's literally |
| 7147s | our livelihood yeah yeah and like here |
| 7151s | like in this podcast who other game does |
| 7154s | that right like maybe you can name a |
| 7156s | couple but we are here to explain why |
| 7158s | we're doing the decision showing numbers |
| 7160s | showing data because we understand that |
| 7163s | like if you're only seeing what the game |
| 7165s | puts out like you have a misconception |
| 7167s | of what's happening right so we are here |
| 7169s | to address the other end which is like |
| 7171s | the communication part um so so yeah so |
| 7174s | basically if you have more questions we |
| 7176s | are free to answer but we won't answer |
| 7178s | if you are in this same emotional uh uh |
| 7184s | stance than this uh comment here yeah |
| 7187s | yeah and maybe to reiterate like we we |
| 7189s | we do you know try to make money for the |
| 7191s | game is a business right and but part of |
| 7194s | that is like you know we use those |
| 7196s | profits to use and marketing to do cool |
| 7199s | Community stuff to do Esports and try to |
| 7202s | grow the game right and it's part of |
| 7203s | that and that's why we do need a |
| 7205s | monetize the game yep true all right um |
| 7210s | well that's being a long episode let's |
| 7213s | go through I think we have 10 questions |
| 7216s | let's try to speedrun important all |
| 7218s | right I have a few questions ah F Photon |
| 7222s | wi wings I have a few questions around |
| 7224s | how things are managed in Brar in the |
| 7225s | browar team how do you decide which |
| 7227s | Brothers to give hypercharge to which |
| 7229s | update yeah so this a few things but I |
| 7231s | guess the biggest thing is we have a |
| 7233s | merry mix of different yeah and was |
| 7235s | changing to every update also it it it |
| 7236s | does change but like a baseline is okay |
| 7239s | we shouldn't give six assassins |
| 7240s | hyperchargers it should be like a sniper |
| 7242s | a tank an assassin you know something |
| 7244s | like that different Rarities as well if |
| 7246s | possible like you know yeah popular |
| 7248s | unpopular popular popular so forth it's |
| 7250s | also a great tool to bring back rers |
| 7253s | into the meta yeah Lou as a great |
| 7255s | example for example yeah how much do |
| 7257s | test R before we touched on that yeah |
| 7260s | have you thought about trying um boot |
| 7262s | post that spread we talk about |
| 7265s | it to get into a uh are there some Bal |
| 7269s | uh some Brawlers that the team |
| 7271s | intentionally tried to keep on the |
| 7272s | stronger side in terms of balancing as |
| 7275s | like Piper or spy consistently being at |
| 7277s | the meta uh no no not really I mean |
| 7281s | there is no basically I'm not sitting |
| 7283s | there going I really like Piper so Piper |
| 7285s | should be at that I know that dny D this |
| 7288s | D propaganda me pushing |
| 7291s | like but yeah I mean there is some |
| 7293s | Brawlers though I will say that if they |
| 7295s | are in a good spot the meta's probably |
| 7297s | decently healthy like Piper for example |
| 7299s | is a very binary character as a sniper |
| 7302s | and if she's doing well it means that |
| 7304s | probably the sniper meta in general is |
| 7306s | doing quite well because it's like it |
| 7308s | just goes hand in hand very far and |
| 7309s | outside of the brers there's also the |
| 7311s | maps yeah the map who dictates a lot |
| 7313s | what kind of brers are viable and not |
| 7315s | yeah so yeah and Spike is very |
| 7318s | vers super versatile and that's fine I |
| 7320s | think it's fine to have those versatile |
| 7322s | characters like if Spike would be bad |
| 7324s | across the board I would be quite |
| 7325s | concerned actually CU it's like well you |
| 7328s | know and then Mythic gears have been |
| 7330s | released very slowly since they were |
| 7332s | first introduced in October 2022 is |
| 7335s | there a reason why they've been |
| 7337s | releasing so slowly iation is the short |
| 7340s | answer uh they have had less priority |
| 7342s | than bigger items and because they don't |
| 7344s | have a lot of impact right yeah I mean |
| 7346s | they can have but at the end of the day |
| 7348s | like if we have the choice between a |
| 7350s | Mythic gear or a hyper charge yeah or a |
| 7352s | hypercharge it's a pretty easy decision |
| 7354s | for us currently but our plans haven't |
| 7356s | changed so we would like to get all |
| 7357s | Brawlers over time get Mythic absolutely |
| 7360s | Falcone star Reddit user I don't know if |
| 7363s | that's the part of the name or if it's |
| 7365s | was me copy pasing incorrectly anyway um |
| 7369s | I strongly feel the assistance for |
| 7371s | season 15 to 18 that involved having |
| 7374s | control of progression credits bling |
| 7376s | PowerPoint conversion have been damaged |
| 7378s | due to how star drops are currently |
| 7380s | implemented do you plan to continue this |
| 7383s | discarding deter determinism and go back |
| 7386s | to these features for sake of |
| 7387s | randomization yeah maybe just a quick |
| 7390s | one I think we want to do a mix like we |
| 7392s | want to have systems that give you some |
| 7393s | control on where you can pick and choose |
| 7395s | Brawlers you can totally do that for |
| 7396s | which Brawlers you want to level up |
| 7397s | right but we also want to have you know |
| 7399s | random rewards because hey they're |
| 7401s | they're exciting right it's exciting to |
| 7403s | maybe get a legendary or sometimes you |
| 7405s | get a hypercharge for Dynamite who you |
| 7407s | don't usually use and all of a sudden |
| 7409s | you know you might try dynamite and you |
| 7410s | might like dynamite and you can see how |
| 7412s | the cycle goes on so we want to kind of |
| 7414s | have a mix of both you saw in the diu |
| 7416s | graph like when we went fullon |
| 7418s | deterministic our diu went down yeah so |
| 7422s | so there there was a part of our player |
| 7424s | base which kept to the game and liked it |
| 7428s | but the majority of people people Al the |
| 7429s | majority of new players coming in the |
| 7431s | game they didn't mhm so having this |
| 7433s | balanc approach gives us the best out of |
| 7436s | both worlds I also like there's no plan |
| 7439s | in removing the Star Road today right |
| 7442s | there's no plan in reverting back to brw |
| 7445s | specific PowerPoints |
| 7447s | versus uh Wild Card PowerPoints so so |
| 7451s | like we feel pretty good with the |
| 7453s | current level however that still means |
| 7456s | we might in the future and as we did |
| 7458s | already you know introduce stardrops and |
| 7460s | other randomized reward mechanics and |
| 7462s | other features because it's very clear |
| 7466s | to us that a huge chunk of our player |
| 7467s | base just likes |
| 7469s | it yeah but I think like it's a good |
| 7472s | compromise like having a bit of bat like |
| 7475s | I I'm really happy that stard drop is |
| 7477s | here and it solv lot of those problem |
| 7479s | like players saying like I never got a |
| 7482s | legendary and I played this game for two |
| 7484s | years right now it's a such a the the |
| 7487s | system is a lot more fair yeah |
| 7490s | uh woodchuck a this one it's two months |
| 7492s | ago you can see here it's because like I |
| 7494s | was actually answering him on Reddit |
| 7496s | like I'm typing so much I would rather |
| 7498s | just answer on the podcast and then I |
| 7501s | actually answering that so like I |
| 7502s | promised that I would get his comment uh |
| 7505s | Hi D when people ask for infinite credit |
| 7507s | banking your team said it wouldn't be |
| 7509s | possible without more severe changes to |
| 7511s | the economy like um battle pass for |
| 7514s | money he's quoting Frank why are now |
| 7517s | getting we are getting uh the battle |
| 7520s | pass the B pass for money alongside |
| 7522s | removal the of credit banking sincerely |
| 7525s | a concerned Community member yeah I |
| 7527s | think it's a it's a fair question yeah |
| 7529s | but you you're already giving the answer |
| 7532s | yourself in the |
| 7533s | question um so I think context is super |
| 7536s | important here we just we didn't say hey |
| 7540s | if broad pass becomes a paid only pass |
| 7543s | we will change this this said we need to |
| 7547s | rework things to make this work if it's |
| 7549s | possible and the Bro pass was just one |
| 7552s | example of this but it would require |
| 7555s | much more for us to really rework it to |
| 7557s | allow for credit banking there would |
| 7559s | have to be some other systems in place |
| 7561s | we haven't even thought about so it's |
| 7563s | it's not a make one change and then oh |
| 7566s | here's credit Banking and so I feel it |
| 7569s | was taken a little bit out of context |
| 7571s | yeah yeah and I think I there was |
| 7572s | context in the in the |
| 7574s | point but I think like one thing that |
| 7577s | maybe we can um explain to the community |
| 7580s | and I think like one thing that Frank |
| 7582s | has a lot of things in his head but then |
| 7585s | he replies to the player the answer that |
| 7588s | the context is in his head right but |
| 7590s | like um it's it's very hard like it's |
| 7594s | not like a Frank problem it's like I |
| 7595s | think a Humanity problem you just see |
| 7596s | how people Comm communicate on social |
| 7598s | media they just answer whatever like |
| 7600s | they feel entitled to answer anything |
| 7602s | with the least knowledge of whatever of |
| 7606s | the topic they they have it's like when |
| 7608s | I try to answer I like I always put like |
| 7610s | a a huge wall of text because I try to |
| 7613s | like what if like you don't know the |
| 7615s | same context I do so I always try to |
| 7617s | contextualize the thing and I think like |
| 7619s | none of the the quotes Frank said on |
| 7622s | social media are incorrect all of them |
| 7624s | are accurate but it could be like maybe |
| 7627s | due to the time he said those things |
| 7629s | could be like uh more right or wrong or |
| 7632s | like um where is he coming from and |
| 7635s | things like that uh so I think appos to |
| 7638s | oranges |
| 7640s | we got it but even set the line all |
| 7643s | right even in the team on slack you are |
| 7645s | pretty blunt and uh onliner I'm a very |
| 7649s | direct blunt guy and it's like but of |
| 7653s | course it's easy to take what I say out |
| 7654s | of context yeah uh as a result of that |
| 7657s | for me it's like it's a fine line to |
| 7659s | dance on right |
| 7661s | when do do I prefer to be myself on |
| 7663s | social media when I respond yes so I'm |
| 7666s | I'm I'm typically very to the point |
| 7668s | straight forward assuming that people |
| 7670s | know some context which makes it |
| 7672s | incredibly easy for people to take what |
| 7673s | I say out of context and put it out of |
| 7676s | context you know it's like it's like |
| 7680s | okay but like you are listening and |
| 7683s | seeing Frank right now this is how it |
| 7686s | really is but the fact he puts a a |
| 7689s | punctuation at the end of his sentence |
| 7691s | makes it sound a lot harsher than he |
| 7693s | actually wow |
| 7694s | wow Grandma I'm sorry yeah but yeah |
| 7699s | things I didn't have on my bingo cards I |
| 7701s | have to apologize for use punctuation |
| 7703s | but also like uh one thing like yeah we |
| 7706s | don't have credit bank because like we |
| 7707s | believe that the design is a bit flaw if |
| 7710s | like you can actually use this mechanism |
| 7713s | to get more resources but when we |
| 7716s | changed that we actually made that the |
| 7718s | BR is already released before the season |
| 7719s | so like the that's right this credits uh |
| 7722s | get into the brawler right so we could |
| 7724s | literally just have the brawler released |
| 7727s | together with the season and then your |
| 7728s | CR are wasted are wasted yes but we do |
| 7731s | take like Community um into account all |
| 7735s | these changes and even though like maybe |
| 7737s | you felt you you got something nerfed |
| 7740s | it's still a better system um than what |
| 7744s | it could be right yeah I mean I mean |
| 7746s | like it I think the feedback is pretty |
| 7748s | clear like I think from a design |
| 7750s | perspective if you're at the end of the |
| 7752s | game and you've unlocked all Brawlers |
| 7753s | which is like less than 1% of our player |
| 7755s | base like you know we want to turn that |
| 7759s | into something else like Fame it's a |
| 7761s | flex of your tenure right like we think |
| 7763s | that's a good system to transition to |
| 7766s | not for you to watch a number go up |
| 7768s | forever which is way less engaging for |
| 7771s | some people but for most people not as |
| 7773s | much right we we do understand Fame is |
| 7776s | like you know kind of you know Bland |
| 7778s | right now so we are doing things about |
| 7780s | it it's going to get better over time |
| 7782s | but we think that's like the just the |
| 7783s | better design uh for the end of the |
| 7786s | road |
| 7787s | see I answer two months after hope you |
| 7791s | you like the yeah uh R tapy raspberries |
| 7796s | I only thought of this question also |
| 7798s | blah blah but you said some events are |
| 7800s | taken into account when you guys |
| 7802s | calculate progression events are an |
| 7804s | extra |
| 7805s | rewards what events are wait what events |
| 7808s | are extra then it's a |
| 7811s | conundrum are events only the ones in |
| 7814s | the event slots ah okay where the |
| 7817s | Christmas and lunar daily freebies extra |
| 7820s | was the bilon take down challenge extra |
| 7823s | so I think it's just a misconception of |
| 7824s | touch on it already earlier I think yeah |
| 7827s | but basically nothing is extra |
| 7828s | everything we give out to you it's maybe |
| 7832s | like if there's something bonus it's the |
| 7833s | giveaways we run right like cond like we |
| 7837s | pick like a very restricted number of |
| 7839s | players and then we give a lot of |
| 7840s | rewards to those players but everything |
| 7842s | else is taking into account like the |
| 7844s | whole economy and like using this this |
| 7846s | Universal budget everything is called |
| 7848s | calculated yeah |
| 7851s | everything yeah maybe like when we have |
| 7853s | a long maintenance and like we have to |
| 7855s | give a compensation reward or something |
| 7857s | like that's not really a part of things |
| 7859s | but yep yeah yeah everything's |
| 7864s | considered manufactur |
| 7866s | big uh I think like or Generate random |
| 7870s | name generator why why has it taken so |
| 7874s | long to implement hyper charges mytic |
| 7877s | gear are there impls to speed up the |
| 7880s | process uh as the meth is currently |
| 7883s | dominated by hypercharge prowers I guess |
| 7885s | it's a bit closer to the mytic question |
| 7887s | but I guess has the hypercharge element |
| 7889s | there yeah hey Larry and Lori didn't |
| 7890s | have a |
| 7892s | hypercharge that's not a good |
| 7894s | answer |
| 7896s | great yeah um sorry I'm sorry what has |
| 7899s | taken so long I mean you can only do so |
| 7901s | many at a time right like again the same |
| 7904s | people who are working let's say on |
| 7905s | hyper charges are the same working let's |
| 7906s | say on new Brawlers and stuff that we |
| 7909s | have to ship so we're trying to |
| 7911s | basically catch up and make as many as |
| 7913s | we can but it's not like we can drop |
| 7915s | everything yeah and make like 30 in an |
| 7918s | update like that's just it's not |
| 7920s | sustainable and you know what makes us |
| 7922s | uh possible for us to grow the game and |
| 7924s | the |
| 7926s | team |
| 7928s | money so actually like if you are if you |
| 7930s | are doing well we can like actually |
| 7932s | expand the team and deliver more content |
| 7934s | for the players that's also true what a |
| 7937s | cycle yeah please buy br |
| 7939s | so you can get more hyper charges get |
| 7941s | more Engineers so you can get more hyper |
| 7943s | charges uh then uh YouTube questions |
| 7946s | actually I look at the Instagram |
| 7947s | questions and they were very it's more |
| 7950s | more like demands rather than questions |
| 7952s | like I didn't have any Instagram |
| 7953s | questions sorry Instagram people okay um |
| 7956s | wolf then any plan change coming to the |
| 7960s | mega Pig event oh wait already but but |
| 7962s | the second part was like would be nice |
| 7964s | to have a little bit of time to select |
| 7966s | the build after everybody choose their |
| 7967s | rollers I agree yeah I think we all |
| 7970s | agree on this one it's on the to-do list |
| 7972s | yeah I think yeah uh it is now oh |
| 7975s | now no but it's it's it's a it's |
| 7978s | annoying when when you have to tell the |
| 7981s | I mean if you're sitting together yeah |
| 7983s | then you can tell like wait don't pick |
| 7985s | your braw yet but like it's not in sh |
| 7987s | you should want to lock in when you're |
| 7988s | ready like and then you should still we |
| 7990s | agree we in agreement I agree next uh |
| 7994s | yet are there any plans on doing a story |
| 7997s | uh mode feature |
| 7999s | for more lore and fresh can play like I |
| 8001s | wouldn't I I wasn't going to pick this |
| 8003s | question but it appears so many times |
| 8005s | it's understandable yeah um as we |
| 8008s | mentioned in August last year it's not |
| 8009s | on our road map for the time being um or |
| 8014s | did we mention in August that it would |
| 8015s | become a part of the road |
| 8017s | map what what |
| 8021s | PVE no I think we scraped we said that |
| 8023s | we scraped yeah so so it's like the the |
| 8028s | the we are discussing PVE regularly it's |
| 8031s | not like it's not on our minds at all |
| 8034s | but at the end of the day it always |
| 8036s | comes down to we PVP game |
| 8038s | first most people log into browsers to |
| 8041s | have PVP so that's our |
| 8043s | Focus um it doesn't mean it will never |
| 8045s | happen but it's you know like we would |
| 8048s | probably talk about it the next time we |
| 8050s | talk about our road map or something |
| 8051s | yeah if it's happening yeah but it's uh |
| 8054s | it's not a small thing it's a pretty big |
| 8056s | undertaking for the team and and it's |
| 8058s | currently not in the cards Yeah so |
| 8061s | basically like a story mode like Triple |
| 8063s | A games spend years developing this |
| 8066s | thing and then like a player finishes in |
| 8069s | 20 hours right y like it's something |
| 8072s | that it has like an investment like how |
| 8075s | much can how much work it takes from us |
| 8077s | and how much uh it does for the player |
| 8079s | so like it's very tricky maybe there's a |
| 8082s | smarter way to do a story mode but if |
| 8084s | you like it's the classic PV mode that |
| 8086s | will advance in different stages and |
| 8088s | tell story it's a lot of work |
| 8090s | yep um 28 oh maybe if you have a story |
| 8093s | mode idea just post on socials and it'll |
| 8096s | be reading |
| 8097s | absolutely uh the Titan we will make any |
| 8101s | collab with other company or game/ |
| 8105s | movies oh wow that's a good question I'm |
| 8110s | not doing anything I'm not doing |
| 8112s | anything D |
| 8113s | yeah no |
| 8117s | command okay don't the answer is |
| 8122s | no okay oh no h curly bricks uh does the |
| 8127s | current High player count change how you |
| 8129s | develop the game really good does it |
| 8132s | impact development in a way that allows |
| 8134s | you to do more things you want to do |
| 8136s | uhuh it's a good question yes it's a |
| 8139s | great question um the the first part is |
| 8143s | interesting by itself but both parts are |
| 8145s | really interesting questions actually |
| 8146s | yep so the second |
| 8148s | part is easier to answer um if a game is |
| 8151s | doing |
| 8152s | well |
| 8153s | and it is doing well right now that |
| 8156s | means as a team we have more |
| 8158s | resources and that that literally means |
| 8160s | everything that means we can we can we |
| 8164s | can grow the team bigger and being |
| 8166s | confident that this is okay um I'm not |
| 8169s | sure if you're following the games |
| 8170s | industry at the moment but this year has |
| 8172s | been absolute disastrous so far um it's |
| 8176s | like thousands of people being late off |
| 8178s | this year already and this mostly |
| 8180s | happens when companies grow so much or |
| 8182s | so fast that that and then that demand |
| 8185s | goes away that they then have to save |
| 8189s | costs and decrease team sizes so at |
| 8192s | superar we've been very deliberate about |
| 8194s | team sizes in the past we've always been |
| 8197s | leaning towards smaller teams and and |
| 8200s | even in this new world where we're |
| 8201s | growing the teams a bit bigger we're |
| 8202s | still relatively small in Industry |
| 8205s | standards but yes yes it gives us the |
| 8207s | confidence to grow the team bigger which |
| 8210s | means we can do more for you guys and |
| 8212s | that means you know more game modes |
| 8215s | actually the the the guy who joined the |
| 8217s | team to develop uh 55 yeah he just |
| 8220s | joined us fairly recently and he had a |
| 8223s | super good impact shout out to |
| 8225s | yasa um absolutely amazing guy and he's |
| 8229s | developing right now the next cool thing |
| 8230s | for you guys |
| 8233s | hopefully no he is hope no he is and uh |
| 8236s | so yeah so so yes it it allows us to do |
| 8239s | more for you it allows us to do more |
| 8242s | things with Esports it allows us to run |
| 8244s | more marketing which then again has a |
| 8247s | positive impact on the player base and |
| 8248s | so on and so forth so it's uh definitely |
| 8251s | helping us actually segue to the |
| 8253s | previous question it allows us to |
| 8255s | approach other companies and say like |
| 8257s | here are our numbers you want to do a |
| 8259s | collab with us but we're definitely not |
| 8261s | doing |
| 8262s | that um but then there's also does it |
| 8265s | change how we develop the game um um |
| 8269s | maybe we ask ourselves a bit more you |
| 8271s | know what what worked should we do more |
| 8274s | of that can we formalize that a bit |
| 8276s | better y but our our plans for the first |
| 8279s | half of the year are unchanged we still |
| 8282s | have high level exactly the same plan uh |
| 8285s | we are really confident in our plans and |
| 8289s | yeah I wouldn't say it changed yet how |
| 8292s | we develop the game really good question |
| 8294s | though yeah super good question thank |
| 8296s | you kly bricks |
| 8300s | guess uh how much do you want the game |
| 8303s | to change in about five years five years |
| 8307s | any bigger plans keep growing yes that's |
| 8309s | a long time yeah five braw in five years |
| 8312s | well I mean you can look at brawl five |
| 8313s | years ago it's a very different game now |
| 8315s | yeah for sure for sure kind of about the |
| 8317s | same nowadays in terms of user numbers |
| 8319s | so there will be FAL pets uh flying cars |
| 8325s | yeah oh yeah true future yeah we we |
| 8328s | don't know like we we of course like I |
| 8330s | think we we plan one year yeah we have a |
| 8333s | rolling 12 month road map now but of |
| 8335s | course we have longer term Ambitions yes |
| 8338s | and and those Ambitions are mostly |
| 8340s | around scale how many people we have |
| 8342s | playing the game and of course we want |
| 8344s | to be bigger than our competitors I'm |
| 8347s | it's very yeah which is going to take |
| 8349s | all of uh Power world's |
| 8353s | features shout out to the competitors |
| 8356s | they make us better that is true ition |
| 8358s | is good |
| 8360s | yes um Canon Canon spard sometimes when |
| 8364s | you answer some questions like why |
| 8366s | aren't you doing this why aren't you |
| 8368s | doing that your answer is that is just |
| 8371s | AOW on your priorities what exactly |
| 8374s | forms your priority and what's the best |
| 8376s | way for the community to change it great |
| 8379s | ah they change the priority yeah yeah |
| 8381s | great question again yeah it's a great |
| 8382s | question it depends on the thing of |
| 8384s | course there's Gaz different things our |
| 8387s | priorities are not normally informed by |
| 8388s | player behaviors so consequently the |
| 8391s | best thing you can do is you can play |
| 8394s | something or not play ity or you can buy |
| 8398s | something or not buy it so so these are |
| 8401s | the the more than anything else those |
| 8405s | are the two things we care about if you |
| 8407s | stop playing then we ask ourselves why |
| 8409s | did he stop playing if you play less |
| 8412s | then we ask ourselves why do you play |
| 8414s | less if you ignore a skin and you love |
| 8417s | another one that we will that also |
| 8419s | informs our decisions yeah and our |
| 8421s | priorities so it's like so so if for |
| 8425s | example I give you a very clear example |
| 8427s | the mega pic we released the mega pit we |
| 8429s | had hopes and dreams we set 20% of our |
| 8432s | daily active users in the time where |
| 8435s | it's out should play it it ex heeded our |
| 8438s | expectations okay that's cool if it |
| 8440s | would have been only |
| 8442s | 10% that would have informed our |
| 8444s | priorities very quickly yeah because |
| 8447s | then immediately we would have started |
| 8448s | to Pivot and change on what what should |
| 8452s | our club League look like uh and we |
| 8455s | probably would have done something very |
| 8457s | different so that's a good example I |
| 8459s | guess yeah and I think like it's not |
| 8461s | that we are oblivious to whatever |
| 8462s | Community is saying on socials like we |
| 8464s | read that a lot and I keep I'm the one |
| 8467s | bringing that up in every meeting and uh |
| 8469s | every time possible but like you can see |
| 8472s | how dangerous can can these be like if |
| 8475s | you look at the graph when we introduce |
| 8476s | masteries and bling right the community |
| 8478s | sentiment was like over the roof like |
| 8479s | everybody was super happy it's like brao |
| 8482s | is the best de thing in the world and |
| 8484s | like oh no we are not because look at |
| 8486s | our numbers yeah and then to the point |
| 8489s | that like if we would have leas on the |
| 8491s | community and double down on the what |
| 8493s | we're doing we would we might have |
| 8495s | killed the game maybe yeah yeah but like |
| 8498s | being like like we we were pretty low in |
| 8501s | last year we were so low for super sa |
| 8504s | standards still pretty big yes that's |
| 8506s | but uh still but but yeah for for our |
| 8509s | standards it felt low yeah and I think |
| 8512s | uh like we do a lot of things to the |
| 8515s | community based on community feedback |
| 8516s | like we look at the ideas suggestions we |
| 8519s | look when they report bugs they report |
| 8521s | balance change uh suggestions uh |
| 8524s | Supercell make is a purely uh Community |
| 8528s | Driven thing this podcast like who else |
| 8530s | was going to watch like it's only the |
| 8532s | highly engaged people right it's already |
| 8534s | two and 36 minutes long 2x |
| 8540s | speed no 2x then is maybe you can't |
| 8543s | understand me so uh but yeah like um we |
| 8547s | we listen to you |
| 8549s | hammad why have the amount of challenges |
| 8552s | decreased sign signific s can't read |
| 8555s | anymore significant a lot I know there |
| 8558s | are are the uh I know there are the |
| 8561s | events every other month but the changes |
| 8565s | were the challenges it was not only me |
| 8569s | yeah um but the challenge were really |
| 8571s | fun it's like why did the challenge |
| 8573s | decrease yeah it's a it's actually we we |
| 8577s | tried out challenges quite a bit we even |
| 8579s | had this this catchup week where you |
| 8581s | could play all the challenges again Etc |
| 8583s | what we see or what we saw is the more |
| 8587s | frequently we run a challenge the less |
| 8589s | the participation yeah so challenges |
| 8591s | running more challenges is just not good |
| 8594s | for the participation of those |
| 8596s | challenges so we are not removing |
| 8600s | challenges we even want to develop |
| 8601s | challenges maybe further in the future |
| 8604s | but it's uh it's important that it's a |
| 8606s | more balanced mix with other things now |
| 8608s | we have the mega pic on Mega P weekends |
| 8610s | you won't see |
| 8611s | challenges um then we have other |
| 8614s | community events we we you know from the |
| 8616s | chroma no more to braw together uh to |
| 8620s | the next thing we also have now |
| 8622s | calendars like the for the lunar brawl |
| 8624s | one we had the calendar you know so |
| 8627s | there's always something going on and in |
| 8629s | the future there will probably other |
| 8630s | things coming to the mix so that |
| 8633s | challenges will be probably a bit more |
| 8635s | rare um of course during the broad star |
| 8638s | Esports the broad broad star |
| 8641s | Championship challenges that means from |
| 8643s | March on every month there will be a |
| 8644s | challenge for the next five |
| 8647s | months yes something like this yeah five |
| 8649s | month am I getting that right yeah five |
| 8651s | months um and there will be some other |
| 8653s | challenges as well so yeah that's pretty |
| 8656s | much it yeah how how you use the |
| 8658s | resources we are giving away in a |
| 8660s | smarter way we already touched on that |
| 8662s | uh Eric Molina R Molina uh did 55 meet |
| 8667s | your expectations I personally would |
| 8668s | love to see it as a weekend |
| 8671s | event okay it's so fun and I personally |
| 8674s | think it's way better than the current |
| 8676s | weekend uh game modes well it's kind of |
| 8679s | like now nowadays it's kind of like a a |
| 8681s | weekend |
| 8682s | event uh did it meet your expectations |
| 8686s | yeah I would say so yeah I think it's |
| 8688s | really cool and uh we're not removing it |
| 8690s | from the game so it uh we keep doing 5v5 |
| 8694s | occasionally on weekends yeah even |
| 8696s | beyond the |
| 8697s | season cool oh it's the last one |
| 8700s | timekeeper uh bit late not going to lie |
| 8703s | but hopefully I can squeeze the did you |
| 8706s | did you choose this user timekeeper at |
| 8708s | the end of our yeah |
| 8711s | nice uh no are you all planning to ever |
| 8715s | do a brawler concept competition in the |
| 8717s | near |
| 8717s | future uh where the community can make a |
| 8720s | completely new brother I think it will |
| 8721s | be make the community Bond and have |
| 8725s | fun that does sound really fun I did uh |
| 8729s | talk about that when they asked to Super |
| 8730s | S wake to have a brawler like I |
| 8733s | personally feel that will be amazing not |
| 8736s | like we shouldn't do a lot but I'm |
| 8738s | saying out loud now here and suggesting |
| 8741s | maybe we should I think it would be |
| 8742s | really cool what do you guys think yeah |
| 8745s | I think it sounds really fun sounds in |
| 8747s | interesting it's It's tricky because |
| 8749s | like normally we have a pretty clear |
| 8751s | idea on what we want to achieve with a |
| 8753s | brawler and why we do a brawler but I |
| 8756s | could maybe it's not quite as extreme |
| 8758s | but I could see a world where a brawler |
| 8760s | becomes like a a um a build your own |
| 8764s | teddy bear kind of exercise where we we |
| 8767s | where we give the Community |
| 8769s | Options and and by by voting for example |
| 8773s | they could pick and choose from some |
| 8775s | options we've given there needs to be |
| 8778s | some limitation I think yeah there needs |
| 8779s | to be some sort of limitations I mean |
| 8781s | you see that with the Skins already in |
| 8784s | super make that it's it's really tricky |
| 8787s | yeah |
| 8789s | um and I like I could see this being a |
| 8792s | total nightmare for a braw to be honest |
| 8795s | it could but I think yeah like some |
| 8796s | guidelines maybe like we need an |
| 8798s | assessing and it has to be Mythic um and |
| 8801s | then has to be from the trio of Willow |
| 8803s | something like that maybe like if we |
| 8805s | keep those guidelines cuz yeah I think |
| 8807s | if it's like totally free like how how |
| 8810s | can you pick yeah how can you pick sure |
| 8812s | so I guess you have to give to to do |
| 8814s | some limitations yeah it's hard it's |
| 8815s | like you can totally imagine like the |
| 8818s | competitive players coming up with |
| 8820s | something totally smart and like genius |
| 8824s | but most players are not really going to |
| 8825s | Care prob just farts they'll probably |
| 8828s | vote for that one right like and yeah I |
| 8831s | think you have to like design the |
| 8833s | curation bit yeah just fart less or more |
| 8840s | anyway that was the last question cool |
| 8843s | um thank you everyone for being here |
| 8845s | thank you players for asking those |
| 8847s | questions and actually I was surprised |
| 8848s | on how they were super polite I was |
| 8850s | expecting like super angry questions I |
| 8853s | got one just to get an example but a lot |
| 8855s | of the questions were really yeah |
| 8856s | pondera and they they were very nice |
| 8859s | yeah nice well out put uh thank you Jeff |
| 8862s | thank you Adrian thank you Frank thanks |
| 8864s | Donny thank you dny thank you Danny |
| 8865s | thank you for playing the game thank you |
| 8867s | being here because they think this poor |
| 8870s | cameraman is sit there for like same two |
| 8874s | hours and a okay thank you so much thank |
| 8876s | thank you guys byebye |
| 8880s | [Music] |
| 8887s | byebye |