over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Hello Reddit!

We changed a lot of things in the new Clan Wars update and I wanted to clear up some of the questions regarding rewards.

What better way to do that than with DATA and TABLES? Well, I can think of a few more fun ways but here we are...

In this post we will be covering the rewards in Clan Wars 2 and the following sections:

  • THE NEW DAILY GIFT
  • GOLD REWARDS
  • QUESTS & CHESTS
  • GEMS & TRADE TOKENS

In each section we will go over::

  • WHAT we removed
  • WHAT we replaced it with
  • WHY we removed it (our thinking behind the process)
  • WHAT this means for you (TL;DR)

Let's get right into it shall we... apologies in advance for any formatting errors, I tried my best!

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FIRST UP… THE NEW DAILY GIFT!

WHAT WE REMOVED

  • 3 X DAILY GIFTS

Each Daily Gift contained ONE of the below.

  Rare Card Epic Card Gold Free Chest
Arena 1 1 1 80 1
Arena 2 2 1 80 1
Arena 3 2 1 100 1
Arena 4 2 1 120 1
Arena 5 3 1 140 1
Arena 6 3 1 160 1
Arena 7 3 1 180 1
Arena 8 4 1 200 1
Arena 9 4 1 220 1
Arena 10 5 1 240 1
Arena 11 5 1 260 1
Arena 12 5 1 280 1
Arena 13 5 1 300 1
  • PERIODICAL FREE SHOP GIFT

1 of the below was given out periodically in each free Shop gift.

  Gold Gems Silver Chest Epic Card (Epic Sunday)
Arena 1 20 10 1 1
Arena 2 20 10 1 1
Arena 3 40 10 1 1
Arena 4 60 10 1 1
Arena 5 80 10 1 1
Arena 6 100 10 1 1
Arena 7 120 10 1 1
Arena 8 140 10 1 1
Arena 9 160 10 1 1
Arena 10 180 10 1 1
Arena 11 200 10 1 1
Arena 12 200 10 1 1
Arena 13 200 10 1 1

WHAT WE ADDED

  • NEW & IMPROVED DAILY GIFT!
  Common Card Rare Card Epic Card (Epic Sunday) Gold Gems Gold Chest
Frequency (in a 5- week season) 5 7 5 10 4 4
Arena 1 25 6 1 300 10 1
Arena 2 35 7 1 400 10 1
Arena 3 45 8 2 500 10 1
Arena 4 55 9 2 600 15 1
Arena 5 60 10 2 700 15 1
Arena 6 65 11 2 800 15 1
Arena 7 70 13 3 900 20 1
Arena 8 75 15 3 1000 20 1
Arena 9 80 17 3 1100 20 1
Arena 10 85 19 4 1200 20 1
Arena 11 90 21 4 1300 20 1
Arena 12 95 23 4 1400 20 1
Arena 13 100 25 5 1500 25 1

The 3 Daily Gifts from the Quest screen are now combined with the free gifts that periodically appeared in slot #1 of the Daily Deals in the Shop.

Players now see a free gift in slot #1 of the Daily Deals in the Shop every single day!

  • The new daily gift will refresh along with the Daily Deals, every 24 hours at midnight
  • Don’t worry, we are not getting rid of Epic Sunday. Free Epic cards still appear in the Shop on Sundays, only now you will get more than one Epic card at higher Arena levels!

WHY DID WE DO THIS?

  • We want to put all the free gifts into one place, rather than forcing players to log in multiple times a day to get the full value of the free gifts, which would not always be possible if you didn’t collect all 3 every single day.
  • This also tied nicely into the War Deck refresh that was introduced, so you could log in and have a bunch of new stuff available for you at the same time.

OVERALL IMPACT (TL;DR)

Most players will receive LESS Common Cards, but MORE Epic Cards and gold than they got before the update!

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SECOND ON THE LIST… GOLD REWARDS!

WHAT WE REMOVED

  • COLLECTION DAY & WAR DAY BATTLES

Rewards per War (at most, every other day) \ Bonus reward is either gold, Token or Gems*

  Collection Day Victory Gold War Day Victory Gold Rank Bounty Gold Bonus Gold* Bonus Token* Bonus Gems*
Bronze I, II, III 200 400 100-400 80-1680 Common/Rare/Epic/Legendary 10-50
Silver I, II, III 300 600 150-600 120-2520 Common/Rare/Epic/Legendary 10-50
Gold I, II, III 400 800 200-800 160-3360 Common/Rare/Epic/Legendary 10-50
Legendary 500 1000 250-1000 200-4200 Common/Rare/Epic/Legendary 10-50

WHAT WE ADDED

  • GIVE A WARM WELCOME TO RIVER TASK REWARDS!

Use 4 War Decks to earn these rewards EVERY DAY whether you win or lose!

  Duel Victory Gold* Duel Loss Gold PvP Victory Gold PvP Loss Gold Boat Battle Victory Gold** Boat Battle Loss Gold** Colosseum Victory Gold*** Colosseum Loss Gold***
Bronze I 1400 140 400 40 200 100 1800 200
Bronze II 1600 160 450 45 230 115 2000 230
Bronze III 1800 180 550 55 280 140 2300 250
Silver I 2100 210 600 60 300 150 2700 300
Silver II 2300 230 650 65 330 165 2900 330
Silver III 2500 250 750 75 380 190 3200 350
Gold I 2800 280 800 80 400 200 3600 400
Gold II 3000 300 850 85 430 215 3800 430
Gold III 3200 320 950 95 480 240 4100 450
Legendary I 3500 350 1000 100 500 250 4500 500

\ Duel battles require 2-3 decks*

\* A Boat Battle victory is destroying at least one Defense Tower. Loss gold is calculate based on damage done, up to 50% of Victory Gold.*

\** Only available beyond the final War Gate/Finish Line on the Final Week of a Clan War Season*

WHY DID WE DO THIS?

  • In Clan Wars 2, we wanted to reward gold every day, and for this gold to be rewarded instantly. It sucked to earn gold and then have it held back from you for a while.
  • We wanted to make gold rewards transparent; players know exactly how much gold they can win in each game mode before they play!
  • We want to add more gold rewards to more competitive games modes, such as Duels. It makes sense to us that the more competitive modes would reward you better.
  • We want to reward players for participating in Clan Wars 2 and contributing to their Clan. This way, even if you lose you are still gaining something and helping out your Clan.

OVERALL IMPACT (TL;DR)

The vast majority of players will get MORE GOLD EVERY DAY than they got before the update. Perfect for upgrading those War Decks.

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THE FINAL TRILOGY: CARDS, CHESTS & QUESTS

WHAT WE REMOVED

  • QUESTS

Individual Quests reward (1 per Quest)

 Reward Amount
Gold 500
Gems 10
Common 50
Rare 10
Epic 1

Quest Chest Cycle = 9850 Quest Points

 Quest Chest Every 41 Chests
Gold Chest 15.0
Giant Chest 6.0
Magical Chest 6.0
Mega Lightning Chest 3.0
Epic Chest 3.0
Legendary Chest 3.0
Lightning Chest 3.0
Legendary King's Chest 2.0

WHAT WE ADDED/REARRANGED

Gems from Quests have been migrated into the Daily Gift in the Shop - all other rewards have been included in Clan Wars 2 rewards below.

WHAT WE REMOVED

  • CLAN WARS LEAGUE SEASON CHEST (awarded every 14 days)
  Total Cards Rare Epic Legendary Gold
Bronze 4th/5th 90 18 222   1260
Bronze 3rd 150 30 3   2100
Bronze 2nd & Silver 4th/5th 210 42 5   2940
Bronze 1st & Silver 3rd 270 54 6   3780
Silver 2nd & Gold 4th/5th 330 78 8   4620
Silver 1st & Gold 3rd 390 78 9   5460
Gold 2nd & Legendary 4th/5th 450 90 11   6300
Gold 1st & Legendary 3rd 510 102 12   7140
Legendary 2nd 570 114 14   7980
Legendary 1st 630 126 15 1 8820

WHAT WE ADDED

  • CLAN WARS 2 RIVER RACE REWARD CHEST (awarded every 7 days)
  Total Cards Rare Epic Legendary Gold
Bronze 4th/5th 90 18 2 One in Four 630
Bronze 3rd 150 30 3.0 One in Three 1050
Bronze 2nd 210 42 5.0 One in Two 1470
Bronze 1st 270 54 6.0 1 1890
Silver 4th/5th 210 42 5.0 One in Four 1470
Silver 3rd 270 54 6 One in Three 1890
Silver 2nd 330 66 8 One in Two 2310
Silver 1st 390 78 9 1 2730
Gold 4th/5th 330 66 8 One in Four 2310
Gold 3rd 390 78 9 One in Three 2730
Gold 2nd 450 90 11 One in Two 3150
Gold 1st 510 102 12 1 3570
Legendary 4th/5th 450 90 11.0 One in Three 3150
Legendary 3rd 510 102 12 One in Two 3570
Legendary 2nd 570 114 14 1 3990
Legendary 1st 630 126 15 1 4410

More Legendaries:

Guaranteed Legendaries for first place every week, and a chance of Legendaries that didn’t exist in the old chests.

Less Gold:

We wanted to reward more gold for playing River Tasks (as playing these also helps your Clan)

NOTE: Clans that do not finish the River Race get a Reward Boot that contains some rewards.

WHY DID WE DO THIS?

  • We have removed Quests completely. Quests had started to become stale over time, and we want to reward fun and competitive gameplay rather than forcing players to complete ‘grindy’ quests.
  • We want to reward Clans more! We want Clans to be a bigger part of the game than they currently are so we have migrated the rewards that you used to earn in quests to Clan Wars 2. Clans have a lot of potential benefits to players (you get more rewards being active in a Clan than a solo player) so ideally we end up with everyone in a Clan.
  • We want to give out even more rewards, especially Legendaries! We have increased total possible rewards and made sure that they are Legendary Cards available to earn every single week!
  • Earning a big chest once a week rather than every 2 weeks is a much more visible goal for players.

OVERALL IMPACT (TL;DR)

Playing Clan Wars 2 will net you more rewards than you were earning from Quests and Clan Wars before the update.

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ONE MORE THING… WHAT ABOUT GEMS & TRADE TOKENS?

Where to get Gems and Trade Tokens in the Clan Wars 2 update:

  • Players will get Gems as their daily free gift ~4 times per Season (number of Gems depends on your Arena level. Level 13 = 25 gems)
  • Rewards in the Global Tournament will now be the same every Season. On the free track, there are 8 trade tokens (2 of each rarity) + 25 gems
  • Free gems in the Crown Chest are unchanged
  • Free gems on Trophy Road are unchanged
  • Free gems found in special challenges (unchanged)
  • Trade Tokens & Gems in special offers in the shop (unchanged)

NEW FREE GLOBAL TOURNAMENT REWARDS

Free Rewards Reward Amount
1 Win Token Common 2
2 Wins Gems 10
3 Wins Token Epic 2
4 Wins Gold 2500
5 Wins Token Rare 2
6 Wins Gold 2500
7 Wins Token Legendary 2
8 Wins Gems 15
9 Wins No Reward 0
10 Wins Lightning Chest 1
  • 8x Trade Tokens
  • 25 Gems
  • 5000 Gold
  • 1 Lightning Chest
  • Up to ~1500 Gem Value

NEW BONUS GLOBAL TOURNAMENT REWARDS

Bonus Rewards Reward Amount Value
1 Win Legendary Chest 1 1x
2 Wins Gold 10000  
3 Wins Token Legendary 1  
4 Wins Epic Chest 1  
5 Wins Gold 10000 5x
6 Wins Token Epic 1  
7 Wins Giant Chest 1  
8 Wins Gold 10000  
9 Wins Token Rare 1  
10 Wins Legendary King's Chest 1 12x
11 Wins Gold 10000  
12 Wins Token Common 1  
13 Wins No Reward 0  
14 Wins Gold 10000  
15 Wins Magical Chest 1 15x
  • 4x Trade Tokens
  • 50000 Gold
  • 5x Chests (Legendary, Epic, Giant Chest, Legendary King’s, Magical)
  • Up to 15x Value

THAT’S IT! YOU MADE IT.

TL;DR

For the vast majority of players, Clan Wars 2 is BY FAR the best place in the game to get a constant daily stream of rewards. Clan Wars 2 is a feature that we will be continuing to develop and improve throughout future updates. Think of it as Clan Wars 2 v 1.0.

Any feedback is welcome and let us know if you have any reward questions in the thread.

Cheers!

Drew & The Clash Royale Team

Edit: Fixed formatting of Clan Wars League Season Chest table

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over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by BeRanger918

A lot of wait for such an uninspiring change. Love finishing the boat race in 20 hours and having to wait six days for the next war. That should really keep the troops motivated.

the first few weeks of this update will be rough as players fight to find their correct league positioning.

we will also be adjusting fame thresholds after this first season to make for a more engaging experience. you can never 100% predict player behavior so we are relying on data from this first month to inform changes in the next clan war season.

while you wait, you can still earn gold rewards from river tasks

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by ledv83

Drew,

Thanks for putting together this. Now, players have reported that they cannot claim card gifts from the shop if they are already maxed out. This is a downgrade.

we are aware of this happening, thx for reporting

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by Eterniter

That "future" updates is what scares me. I would have no problem if our complains turned into feedback and then SC improved things by say, in an update next month. We all know though next update that changes anything in the game is 6+ months away.

trust me, we also don't want the next update to take 6 months to come out

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by ThePhoenix74

What about the button swap and the gems I lost? Seriously?

that was not relevant to the point of this post so it wasn't addressed in this post.

i've commented about this in other comments - we have made a UI change in relation to the feedback that will be going into the next optional/mandatory update. sorry to hear that you lost gems, we will be getting a fix out soon

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by sandokas

My clan was in Legendary last couple of months and fell during last clan war (from 3k to 2.9k). Now we're stuck at 1500 points. Before if we won 1st place every single war we could get 300-400 points a week. In a month we could get back.

With river race we're stuck at 20 points a week. That's going to take us 1.5 years (75 weeks) to get back where we were before IF we win EVERY single boat race.

I dunno what to do. We've been playing together for years but this seems like the final chapter. Please help.

wait for the final week and the clan war colosseum my friend!

this is where you can earn mega trophies for your clan. you can see the exact numbers in the little goblin hut at the left of the start of the river

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by Eterniter

Hopefully. I've been playing clash since April 2016 and I admit any ill criticism towards the game is actually due to how much I love Clash Royale. I think I speak for most of us on this but truth is we complain because we have spent countless hours having fun on this game and our expectations are always high.

i get you man, i'm the same. you just want the best for something so get mad when it isn't as perfect as it can be, because you love it so much.

me and star wars movies would like to say hello!

we'll definitely be looking to focus on faster updates going forward and hopefully now that this clan wars rework is done we can focus on newer, fresher gameplay content. thanks for the message!

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by sandokas

Colosseum gives 100 points per month.

In clan wars we used to get 100 points every 2 days.

I feel betrayed.

everyone is in the same position as you are, so it is not putting your clan at a disadvantage. these new values are just something that your clan will have to adapt to in this transitional period

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by Godspiral

Gems from Quests have been migrated into the Daily Gift in the Shop - all other rewards have been included in Clan Wars 2 rewards below.

The problem is that concentration in CW2 rewards. CW2 rewards require an active clan. If this is a casual game and the majority of players are casual, then the majority of clans are not active enough to get the top rewards. A lot of complaining about matchmaking, but if you just play, and have other clanmates who also play, you can get a high finish position, and high reward. 50 players with lvl 9 cards can finish race at start of 3rd day in their time zone. Fast enough to climb to legends even if they lose every time.

An important reward balancing fix would be to get rid of the boot, and every clan is guaranteed the 5th place reward (4th could be better than 5th)

In the old CW1, our clan could usually get the gold 1st chest every 2 weeks, even if we had lots of 4th/5th places. The average clan will necessarily get 3rd each week. Not far from half the old value. But our clan will also drop out of gold and never come back. Not sure how we wouldn't get the silver boot every week until we fall to bronze if we can't get 50k points.

Matchmaking is not the real long term problem (it fixes itself anyway + boat battles can be won with weak decks). Its the huge penalty to smaller clans. (We're open clan with reasonable reqs) that is huge nerf to their rewards.

thanks for your feedback and perspective as a small/less competitive clan!
i personally think that it is far too early (2 days) to make assumptions like this atm and everyone should at least wait until after the first season is finished before writing off the rewards as a huge nerf to smaller clans.

not dismissing your thoughts - just asking to keep an open mind when it comes to more long-term reward structures/designs like this.

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by chunter456

Can we get transparency around the gold for non 3 crown victories? I haven't been getting the full amount on wins and it tends to penalize certain decks that aren't three crowning.

have you got some screenshots or a player tag you've experienced this on as proof of this?
there was a bug in the first day where incorrect gold was given but that was resolved with a maintenance on tuesday.

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by J1234511

From the table I don't see how the legendaries we have lost from the quest chests like mega lightning, kings chest, legendary chest, etc have been put into the war rewards - the legendaries we get will go down

Also before you had many chances to get a 1st chest in a season, this is not the case anymore - so war rewards go down again

Also, this rebuttal shows that none of this is true https://www.reddit.com/r/ClashRoyale/comments/ilg9wu/do_we_get_more_rewards_from_the_new_update_or_did/

If you check the new war season chests you can see the Legendary values there. The rewards are not lowered just because you have less chances to earn them. And you also earn 4 Chests every month rather than 2 chests

that rebuttal post uses incorrect values. the OP even says they are using values that they believe are correct instead of the correct values, they halved the value of cards for example.
i don't know what else i can do to convince you if you don't want to take our official statistic/fact based posts at face value, so any feedback on this would be great.

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by factsvsfiction

After giving it a few days to play here are a few of my thoughts:

1) best of 3 duels are completely pointless in this format

-If you do not have 3 maxed decks, you do not stand a chance

-format causes decks to become progressively worse without the ability to repeat cards (ex. Multiple deck structures require spell cards. If you used 3 in deck 1 and have none for your other 3 decks it changes how people play the game )

-you waste 3/4 of your war day decks on one event

Personally, I believe it would have been better to let people choose from 1 of the 5 decks they have already designed in the game for each duel match and have this count for only 1 of their war day participation slots. It takes more skill to prepare for all cards/deck combos, rather than finish games 1&2 and not have to prepare for a fireball, zap, xyz card.

2) The matchmaking system is TERRIBLE.

-Right now the system is factoring in card levels, but it needs to factor in card level AND tower level. Lvl 13s are able to manipulate this to their advantage. They can use lower level cards to match with lower level people, giving them the advantage in head to head matchups. Their throwaway deck shouldn't give them a better chance at points.

3) Grand challenges/challenges should be revisited now that clan wars 2 is here

-we haven't got many updates to this area

-it would be cool to see best of 3 duels added to the final stage of grand challenges or even a best of 3 duel challenge system createx

-a gem/coin betting scheme could be added to help players grow

-gem prices could be reduced to make the challenges more farmable or add a gold option to participate

thanks for your feedback:

RE: grand challenges feedback

- a constant feedback is that we need to cater more to casual players/the masses, which grand challenges are not for
- duel system in challenges would be awesome however. question for you - why do you think it would be good in a challenge but your feedback about duels in your first point is negative?

- we can't do any form of betting in games without legal issues or being removed from the app store

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by UtsavAdk

Hey drew, As a heard in recent CWA video, you as a single community manager for such huge game is doing a great work. I used to be mad when you don't interact with community but now i think it a difficult job.

This post will definitely will get ignored but, the optional/mandatory update will change some UI features. Will it include clan chat UI change as well? because the community seems to be unhappy with the new transparent UI.

thanks for the message! i appreciate it.

the optional update is dedicated to bigger bugs and gameplay issues.

i have already gvien the UI feedback to our artist, but just because some members are unhappy with it doesnt mean all players are, and i'm going to trust my UI artists' thoughts on this one.there has been a lot of time and thought spent on the UI design so it isn't one of those things that we will be changing within a week etc.

thanks for the feedback!

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by fl164

That's awesome Drew, I love your new shift in communication. I would even say you got some coaching on how to change it so that it evolves in a right way with this tricky and schizophrenic community. By the way it works and I really like it.

To come back to this point. I love duel in CW2 and there is no debate for me that Duel should be extended to other parts of the game.

Thank you for your huge communication. Be sure that mine will continue at this level.

thanks for the feedback, glad its a noticeable difference.

no coaching, just amazing what can happen when an update is released and there is actually stuff to talk about ;)

over 3 years ago - /u/Supercell_Drew - Direct link

Originally posted by MidKnight088

Hey drew sorry if you answered this already, is there an estimated date when the optional update will come? The game badly needs it.

we're gonna squeeze a few more things in and submit it to app stores for approval soon. we're estimating a release next week