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External link →Or, maybe Reddit as a platform encourages toxicity and the moderators need to, you know, moderate?
You may not agree with it but like it’s not the Wild West here. You still have to follow the rules. ALL of the rules.
Don't blame Reddits userbase on your company's short comings. That's a big cop out.
Threads have been going down and comments disappearing at a way higher rate since the negative pr you guys have been drumming up. (Ie the past few weeks)
The posts I linked and the comments that were removed in those threads were not breaking ANY rules other than painting the game in a negative light.
Blatant harassment of the team =/= open discussion are two completely different things.
But I just did, damn. ‘Tis the truth. Not that we are perfect, because we’re not. But like, it’s Reddit.
If you don’t like the way the sub is moderated you can message one of the moderators.
I don't. And I did message you, after you left a snarky reply to my comment in the other thread, and promptly locked it.
Yet you claimed ignorance and had no idea it was locked, and it still has continued happening over the past few days.
I have not locked or moderated a single thread or comment here or in the discord. I’m also not a moderator. Look at the titles.
That's what the karma system is for. It doesn't encourage toxicity any more than anything else. If the majority agree in a group how this game is perceived by the community then those ideas will raise to the top.
Shadow banning, locking and deletion of posts/threads that don't break any rules is pure manipulation by the moderation team to skew the views of the members of this sub.
EDIT: This isn't just a "reddit" problem, l just checked out the backer rooms on the discord and it's worse than here. Even Atomic Duck is being attacked lol
I made a post after the July 17th update that I bet was shadow banned as soon as a mod saw it, even though it doesn't break any rules. They can't take the heat that they are creating by BSing us for a long time now and lock threads with links for proof.
We can agree to disagree on that. Imo karma is inherently a system that encourages groupthink and dogpiling, but you’re entitled to feel however you want about it.
Doesn’t change how the individual subs are moderated tho, that’s up to the discretion of the moderators.
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Regardless of WHO locked it, you're still replying to users in a locked thread with elevated privileges .
And this proves... what exactly? What does replying to people have to do with the topic of your post here
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That you were trying to save company face in a locked thread in which normal users could not reply to??????
My views are my own, only my own.
I didn’t know the thread was locked, because I didn’t lock it. I already explained this to you. I would have said it regardless. If you don’t like how the moderation is handled, like I said, message a MOD, or don’t participate. That’s how this works.
The mods dont reply and they dont care. You guys also dont have a formal process to appeal any kind of ban for your communities. Instead, the name of the game is just censorship.
Lol you have no idea how much trash they get in their messages on a daily basis, no clue at all. If they didn’t care they wouldn’t be here.
If that’s how you feel though (even though I disagree with you), you don’t have to participate in this facet of the community. No one is making you.
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Lol you just compared moderation on a subreddit to police killing innocent people. We’re done here.
Pretty ignorant and provocative replies in this thread by a developer of the game, genuinely made me want to get a refund for the game, what an asshole.
Ouch, well sorry you feel that way man. Just feel like we should be active in the sub at least a little, you don’t have to like or agree with everything I say.
you don’t have to like or agree with everything I say.
That's the ENTIRE POINT of all this. Yet the mods will lock or ban when it doesn't go their way.
Far as I’ve seen usually it’s either misinformation, people personally attacking the devs or mods or being disrespectful (and oooooh boy there’s a lot of that, even literally in this thread), or breaking rules (like discussing bans or other moderation actions). Like I’ve said, if you’ve an issue, mods will usually tell you why the action was taken.
Its funny, we backed the game to support the development of it and you're the type of person we've supported lol. A bit unprofessional with your arrogant messages. You're a representative of the game we've backed and this is how you behave. It's going to be interesting to see in the long run. Ingrate.
You know, there’s a rule we have here: https://imgur.com/a/9YTs72u
If this is how you treat people you don’t even know, lol. Hope you enjoy the game when it comes out.
I haven't personally attacked the *devs, but have been banned for 24hrs for telling Nik "Don't get your panties in a bunch" lol.
When people get the chance to play the game and if it's not anywhere close the Vlogs have been saying, it's going to be a shit show in here if Nik wants a ban for that.
Lol that’s a funny one actually. Well let’s hope you all are happy with it when you get to play, what happens happens
Perhaps you ought to abide by the same rules and calling someone an ingrate isn't hateful or offensive. "You don’t have to like or agree with everything I say."
Uh but the post before that, didn’t you...?
Alright man, appreciate you voicing your concerns. Like I said, hope you like the game.
Stop lying, and STOP replying at this point. You are ruining your fellow developers name and credibility. No one is attacking anyone or being disrespectful except for YOUR comments here.
Dude I didn’t lock that thread, I don’t have knowledge of literally every moderation action that gets taken.
If you’re this committed to hating or distrusting everything I say, why even respond to me? I’m not going to stop interacting with the community of the game I’m making
You just said there's no evidence of threads being locked where people weren't harassing your team or breaking rules, where this screen shot proves your team locks threads which make them seem less than ideal.
“As far as I’ve seen”
Where in there did I say that threads don’t ever get locked
Also there are other rules about posts being substantive in some way and maybe it was determined that it was not, even though it was “positive”
None of the surprises have been good so far. Not a complete open world map, now partners get game first because of server problems. Which I touched upon in my post last week that got shadow banned because we’ve haven’t seen full multiplayer video yet
Well we got to expand the CA map quite a bit from 5x5 to 7.5x7.5 km, there’s now an actual test range that players can use now, claims are pretty fleshed out, etc etc but I can understand how that’s upsetting. And the only part that isn’t in the main map is the city of Calgary which was for perf reasons, the rest is seamless open world
Which is a swerve from what we were told.
What do you mean “test range”. Only a portion of the map has been actually tested?
When the delays started late last year, I (many of us) offered under NDA to stress test servers and report bugs and problems. I doubt to this day the server has been tested full capacity plus whatever else that bogs the server down like many items in storage, etc.
Even a more experienced dev team like Gamepires has huge problems, just read about their latest .4 patch.
The attitude of the entire dev team the last ~8 months has made me do a complete 180, to being pretty damn discouraged.
I mean idk what to tell you, stuff changes during development all the time. That’s just the nature of the beast. And no, the test range is the shooting range that’s been in the weekly updates, separate from the main map.
Sorry that you feel that way about the project. To be frank if we constantly just worried about how people feel, none of us would be able to focus on work. All we can do is just make the best game we can in the time we have and be happy with that. People being people doesn’t help, but we can’t control them, so we get on how we can, even they make us feel deflated, or annoyed, or depressed, or aggravated, we still have a job to do.
