UPDATE 2: tabg only costs 5 bucks if you want to try it. Nirsofttools and sysinternals as well as pc Hunter are all legitimate auditing tools and don't result in bans. My IDA pro ban was because it does include a debuggger but that was my first ban of many many more bans where I wasn't running any or these tools. I'd suggest trying it out before speculation based on what I'm saying...see for yourself. I am not a tabg developer I am just one of the few players left and have almost 1500 hours in game. My only bias is what I experienced and although I'm not exactly a casual computer user and have background in this stuff, I'm not a game developer or anti cheat expert either. I did release several landfall approved mods for both tabg and tabz, so I know a little about game design but not nearly as much as your devs here who I trust. All of these posts I see related to this are all speculation. I'm hoping one of you guys as well as the developers will be able to look into the things I saw and provide some more context and perspective. You wouldn't buy a car without driving it ....why wouldn't you test out the only other implementation of the anticheat as well? If anyone wants to but doesn't want to pay I'll gladly lend out the steam account I created and bought another copy of tabg (created since I had a ban from windows update and landfall was away at some game dev conference I think). I'm just one person on the internet so don't go by just what I'm saying. You are all welcome to the tabg discord server if you like (pm me for a invite) to ask anyone there what their experience was like...
I apologise for stirring up all this trouble but the second I saw this game on equ8s website I felt like I should let you guys know what my personal experience was but you should really ask the rest of the players. I would say check the steam and reddit discussions but they have mostly been purged via landfall moderators.
Again, you guys are extremely lucky to have competent developers... unfortunately landfall can't program their way out of a cardboard box so my questions went unanswered about what I was seeing it doing because they frankly don't have the ability or experience to look into it.
I didn't mean to freak everyone out (though it did freak me out). I just wanted to share my story about my experience because EAC , BE, VAC etc never raised any red flags for me so when I started noticing all the strange things it was doing I looked into it. It's possible that I misinterpreted what I found, but at the same time, I never received a response from landfall or equ8 regarding some of the more suspicious activity I was able to capture. You're developers and I talked again today and are going to press them for those answers to see what they say.
As your developers admitted they hadn't really looked that far into equ8 but they are now and they know more about this stuff than I do. Trust your developers on this one and either look into it yourself, either by asking the tabg players or trying it out yourself but don't just speculate. In fact they even promised me if the answer they received for my issue was unsatisfactory they would drop equ8. This means a lot to me as I couldn't even get an acknowledgement about these issues from landfall or equ8.
I trust your developers and I've only briefly spoken with them, but they know what they are doing more so than I do but most importantly they care about their game and above all you guys, the players, the end users. ...
UPDATE:
Talked to the developers. You have no idea how lucky you are to have actual programmers here...if only tabg was so lucky. To make a long story short, I talked to the developers and how they are implementing anticheat, although still possibly subject to change, i trust they will make the best decision given the information they have. We both learned some things (me about the game, them about the AC) and we left the conversation mutually satisfied with the outcome i believe...regardless of what they end up doing with anticheat.
So i'll be off now...maybe back i'm interested in this game now for more than just the alarming choice of anti-cheat! I stand by everything i said regarding equ8, but you are lucky to have good developers here that care, and that's rare it seems these days. Have a good one!
Hey there!
I come from /r/tabg ....And I thought I could maybe shed some light on how equ8 worked out for us.....which if you look at our game's steamdb chart you can watch as equ8 destroyed it....Not to mention just googling it doesn't exactly bring up flattering search results (all of that stuff is mostly true!).
Any questions, ask me anything, a lot of people from the tabg discord and myself have way too much experience with this garbage and I wouldn't want ANYONE to have to go through the same BS! Constantly getting banned for no reason (windows update was a hell of a cheat it seemed). The fact that it goes through unopened, personal files....list goes on. Tell your developer to pick literally anything else....including nothing at all. It wasn't the sole reason tabg died, but it was at least 51% of it.
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