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| 0s | so my name is Jens living in Northern |
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| 3s | Sweden or used to live in northern |
| 5s | Sweden |
| 6s | um northern Europe Southern Sweden I've |
| 9s | been working at strange Loop games since |
| 11s | 2020 and started off its QA and moved up |
| 15s | to game design and game balance now so |
| 17s | that is main resident in spreadsheets |
| 20s | and all things |
| 22s | economy-wise when it comes to crafting |
| 24s | and utilitarian in-game |
| 28s | so yeah that that was the ends we're |
| 31s | going to have the chance to talk with |
| 32s | him in a moment so prepare all the |
| 34s | questions that you have uh questions and |
| 37s | comments that you have about balance but |
| 39s | first let's start with the isobar |
| 42s | breakup we are going to have streams |
| 43s | every week to display features to talk |
| 46s | about gameplay and balance and the most |
| 48s | important is to talk to the community |
| 50s | listen to the questions and opinions |
| 52s | about the features so feel free to |
| 54s | comment or ask questions in the chat and |
| 56s | we will try to answer all of them |
| 59s | so I would like to start with a |
| 62s | teacher specifications to switch the |
| 66s | screen I like to do this |
| 68s | um so I would like to start with a |
| 71s | feature that has existed for a while but |
| 73s | has been updated multiple times by |
| 75s | multiple depths including me and we are |
| 79s | aware that it can be improved a lot I'm |
| 81s | talking about the economy billboard |
| 84s | so |
| 85s | what is the economy River it is |
| 88s | some sort of spreadsheet where you can |
| 91s | see information please give me a second |
| 93s | so I just enabled the small QR code here |
| 97s | on the corner of the screen is it it |
| 100s | will take you to Google forms where you |
| 102s | can send us information about what do |
| 104s | you think about this feature and what |
| 107s | did you change about it we would like to |
| 109s | read the comments and try to improve the |
| 112s | feature based on on that information |
| 114s | that we receive |
| 115s | so what is the economy viewer is uh some |
| 120s | sort of expression you can open using |
| 122s | the shortcut y and once you open it you |
| 125s | will see information about the products |
| 127s | that are being sold and the different |
| 129s | installs it starts compare prices |
| 132s | Etc so one of the basic will suggests |
| 136s | that you can have is that imagine that |
| 139s | you want to craft something but you |
| 142s | don't have all the ingredients |
| 144s | so you can check the sales ingredient |
| 146s | let's say that I need a lock so I can |
| 148s | check with selling logs and I can't |
| 150s | check what what that is what is the |
| 152s | distance to that sort I can compare |
| 155s | prices click the distance to see on the |
| 157s | map where that store is |
| 160s | and well that that's like kind of the |
| 162s | basic research but we can have some more |
| 165s | complex messages for example let's |
| 167s | imagine that I have this fish that I |
| 171s | want to solve but it's about to go but |
| 172s | actually I mean she started with a |
| 174s | command let's say that the frenchness is |
| 177s | just 50 and yeah I don't want this this |
| 181s | food to to go bad so I want to sell it |
| 183s | first and I can just go to the store and |
| 186s | say that I want to sell |
| 188s | this fish |
| 191s | you know sorry oh please |
| 196s | and uh here I can see that is out of |
| 198s | stock that's because the default version |
| 200s | is required is is 50. I'll say that at |
| 204s | least five should be enough and now it's |
| 207s | on the store so the idea is that when |
| 210s | people buy stuff they can sort by price |
| 213s | but they can also sort by durability so |
| 216s | you can check what is just about to go |
| 218s | bad I know that the fish may go bad |
| 221s | really soon so probably the price will |
| 224s | be lower I mean as a seller you can |
| 226s | decide to use as uh reduce price for the |
| 230s | food that is about to go back that will |
| 232s | help to reduce the overall waste on the |
| 235s | server but will also reduce your like |
| 239s | the amount of money you'd lose if the |
| 241s | food just go back that's just like some |
| 245s | example of usages of the of this feature |
| 248s | we also have for parties contract |
| 250s | customizations and rents |
| 252s | so the idea is is that as we know that |
| 256s | this can be improved a lot we would like |
| 258s | to hear your opinion about it so let us |
| 261s | know why do you use the economy River if |
| 263s | you use it at all and when you use it do |
| 266s | you find everything you need there is |
| 267s | there something that you'd like to |
| 269s | remove like yeah I have never used |
| 270s | really this I don't see why it should be |
| 273s | displayed or in the contrary I like to |
| 275s | see this and it's not available |
| 277s | so feel free to use the chat or send |
| 280s | information using the dqr code whatever |
| 283s | works for you it's fine for us and that |
| 286s | would be all about this seasonal feature |
| 288s | I wanted to display as I as you may know |
| 292s | today's ring is focused on balance so it |
| 294s | was just a small display to to kind of |
| 297s | information |
| 298s | so now |
| 300s | um we we will be checking the chat but |
| 304s | now let's hear change this what do you |
| 305s | have to to tell us |
| 308s | uh well as of as might be uh hinted by |
| 312s | the stream name |
| 315s | um we're gonna discuss a little bit |
| 316s | about balance and overall implementation |
| 320s | and ingredients related to the boats |
| 322s | which everyone is super hyped for |
| 326s | um and |
| 331s | oh yeah |
| 332s | um |
| 334s | do you want to flip over screen |
| 339s | yeah |
| 341s | do you |
| 344s | you should be able to see your your |
| 346s | screen now I mean my screen is |
| 349s | it should be below |
| 351s | still still showing your Unity |
| 356s | ah sorry yeah my bad sorry |
| 361s | uh right so let's start off strong with |
| 366s | both a broken object and a fully working |
| 368s | object |
| 370s | uh we have the uh one of our biggest |
| 373s | Assets in the game right now |
| 376s | um you've seen the oil refinery before |
| 378s | that's pretty high up |
| 380s | um we're now introducing a |
| 383s | giant construction yard for the bigger |
| 387s | Naval vessels |
| 389s | which is currently named iron Shipyard |
| 392s | but |
| 394s | uh Let's ignore everything that's in the |
| 397s | background |
| 400s | uh yeah so this is our |
| 404s | substantially bigger object we're |
| 406s | working on some some new building |
| 408s | requirements to be able to place this as |
| 410s | well so this will be needing to be |
| 413s | placed in water or partially in water |
| 416s | which means you're not going to be able |
| 417s | to you know construct these |
| 419s | huge boats up in the mountains across |
| 422s | from from everywhere |
| 424s | um but the bigger boats are gonna need |
| 426s | actual water connections |
| 430s | and then we unfortunately the small |
| 433s | Shipyard broke which is this amazing |
| 436s | gray box |
| 438s | it's beautiful |
| 440s | um Milenko spent a lot of time making it |
| 442s | making it this shiny |
| 445s | which brings us to the first sort of |
| 448s | initial view of the new intermediary |
| 450s | ingredients |
| 452s | that are involved in crafting this |
| 456s | and |
| 459s | oh yeah um |
| 461s | might be prudent to also mention that |
| 463s | Milenko is our amazing lead artist uh |
| 468s | has worked quite significantly on the |
| 470s | Avatar that's going to come up in a |
| 471s | later stream |
| 474s | um so these are some of the new objects |
| 475s | these are some of the new boats that are |
| 477s | coming |
| 478s | we have |
| 479s | a couple of small ones that's going to |
| 481s | be introduced |
| 483s | um early on in gameplay |
| 488s | um which is gonna be sort of your |
| 490s | equivalent to Naval cards they're gonna |
| 493s | have a small inventory space they're |
| 494s | gonna be fairly fairly cheap to produce |
| 498s | in the same sort of range |
| 501s | um |
| 502s | you've got the small canoe you've got |
| 504s | the large canoe and these are made by |
| 506s | just wooden materials |
| 508s | which is comprised of all planks and |
| 513s | wooden oars as well as small wooden ship |
| 516s | frames |
| 516s | [Music] |
| 519s | and one of our |
| 521s | sort of big balance impact |
| 526s | um requirements when it came to boats in |
| 529s | general and and overall is |
| 533s | um how how are these going to be |
| 535s | interacting why are we needing them and |
| 538s | what role would they play in economy |
| 542s | um where early game I think a lot of |
| 545s | people are |
| 549s | sort of cutting close to the whole issue |
| 551s | of you need to transport something in |
| 553s | over rivers or you need to transport |
| 555s | things across deserts and into |
| 558s | uh into other Regional areas that might |
| 560s | have resources that you that you want or |
| 562s | you know you really wanted to have those |
| 565s | bricks but they're on another Island so |
| 567s | you're gonna have to either build a |
| 569s | giant Bridge or you're gonna need to |
| 571s | track them one at a time across |
| 575s | um so |
| 577s | uh one of the big things was that we |
| 580s | need these to be available early but |
| 582s | also have a clear path of upgrading from |
| 585s | having your small boat to a medium-sized |
| 588s | boat as well as to be able to move over |
| 590s | to bigger shipping when you come into |
| 591s | late game where there's a large volume |
| 594s | of materials need to travel over larger |
| 596s | distances but you don't want to compete |
| 598s | and build giant asphalt roads across all |
| 601s | the land and big tunnels |
| 604s | yeah |
| 607s | and yeah so we have wooden hole planks |
| 610s | which is going to be your basic General |
| 612s | material for all the wooden bases |
| 615s | crops you have wooden Keels as you can |
| 618s | see it's been made by logging |
| 620s | um what I have learned which isn't shown |
| 622s | here is that we have a new profession to |
| 624s | go along with these which is the |
| 626s | shipwright |
| 627s | and that is why we |
| 630s | you can't really see it here but we are |
| 633s | missing an icon for it and that's why |
| 635s | it's just showing off as the default |
| 636s | sort of missing icon icon |
| 639s | and that is going to be your new |
| 642s | intermediary |
| 644s | competitive vehicle profession with |
| 648s | basic engineering and mechanics |
| 650s | um |
| 651s | we can go into |
| 655s | I just |
| 656s | fix that quickly there we go |
| 659s | and you can go in here you can have a |
| 662s | clearer view of the new intermediary |
| 664s | parts |
| 666s | we have the whole planks |
| 669s | and they're made in the wooden Shipyard |
| 671s | their basis of human logs which is |
| 675s | pretty straightforward you've got your |
| 677s | more advanced vessels which use iron |
| 680s | Hull sheets which are made at the bigger |
| 682s | Shipyard and they're comprised of plates |
| 686s | and screws and this will be your |
| 688s | starting point for involving mechanics |
| 690s | in crafting these boats |
| 692s | and then you've got in the early tier |
| 696s | rather you've got the metallic version |
| 698s | counterpart for the modern ones |
| 701s | and that will be your factor of if it's |
| 703s | going to be a small early boat or if |
| 705s | it's going to be a middle tier as ores |
| 708s | are used for controlling the boats |
| 710s | x-wise for the canoes |
| 713s | and then the rudder will be moving over |
| 715s | into carpentry so sort of stepping up |
| 717s | your tier one two three vessels |
| 721s | um you've got a couple of different ship |
| 722s | frames to account for this so there will |
| 724s | be a bit of intermediary Construction in |
| 727s | between them |
| 731s | [Music] |
| 733s | we move over to the big one |
| 737s | you have the more advanced vessels as |
| 739s | well so you have your wooden transport |
| 741s | ship which is going to be your |
| 743s | mid-tier range transport |
| 746s | and that'll be sort of your bread and |
| 749s | butter |
| 750s | uh middle tier which is kind of |
| 752s | technologically equivalent to the steam |
| 755s | truck just for water with a little bit |
| 757s | more carry capacity obviously because |
| 760s | boats are built for bulk cargo |
| 765s | you have the medium fishing troller |
| 769s | that is going to be your craft or your |
| 773s | harvesting vessel which is going to be |
| 775s | driving around and collecting fish as it |
| 777s | passes over and |
| 779s | we'll go into more in detail |
| 782s | sort of showing you off these vessels in |
| 785s | a later dedicated boat stream |
| 788s | um |
| 789s | just sort of touching on the balance |
| 791s | part of it and the crafting and where |
| 793s | you go from point A to now I'm in the |
| 796s | water and sailing around |
| 798s | foreign |
| 801s | these also have a couple of new |
| 803s | ingredients which is Mooring ropes and |
| 807s | that's going to be your way to Anchor |
| 809s | the boats to not be pushed around |
| 812s | as probably a lot of people have voiced |
| 815s | concerns about what if your boat is idle |
| 817s | in the water because of trucks having |
| 820s | friction they're standing still even if |
| 822s | you're colliding with them |
| 825s | um they're not really going anywhere |
| 826s | although you can push them around a |
| 828s | little bit but you know they're they're |
| 829s | a hurdle to move around if someone |
| 832s | parked it inconveniently in front of you |
| 835s | um boats on the other hand is on water |
| 837s | so they're pushable |
| 841s | and |
| 843s | so one of our solutions to this is being |
| 845s | able to Anchor Up Your Vessel to a port |
| 848s | or an entity in the water |
| 851s | so that's sort of where your morning |
| 853s | ropes are going to come into play |
| 856s | um these are going into the craft of the |
| 858s | object so that will be |
| 860s | uh it'll be a bit more clarified on on a |
| 863s | later one |
| 864s | and that's the I'm sorry that I |
| 867s | interviewed there are a couple of |
| 868s | questions would you mind to if I read |
| 871s | them to you |
| 872s | so nice I I we have been collecting some |
| 874s | of the questions that we have seen on |
| 876s | the on the chats uh the first one is |
| 878s | winter behavior of dynamic water I'm |
| 881s | placing things in water change for the |
| 884s | templation if we are pleasing thinking |
| 886s | what it would be nice to have rather |
| 888s | behave a bit better |
| 890s | uh yeah Walter behavior is something |
| 893s | that we're continuously sort of looking |
| 895s | at improving and we're working on some |
| 897s | new |
| 897s | some new block occupancy and placement |
| 900s | systems to deal with when you're placing |
| 903s | things in water when you're removing |
| 904s | things out of water |
| 906s | um |
| 908s | and yeah it's a tricky system and it is |
| 910s | something that we're constantly trying |
| 912s | to upgrade and improve on um it is |
| 915s | it is a bit unruly as of the current |
| 918s | state |
| 919s | nice uh there is also a lot of people |
| 922s | talking about the possibility of getting |
| 924s | job roads like we have the top card will |
| 927s | we get all sorts of boats |
| 930s | um not initially it is something that |
| 933s | we've speculated about and |
| 936s | um it is quite modable in a sense that |
| 940s | due to our systems with components and |
| 943s | everything being modular attachable |
| 944s | attachable core like script system wise |
| 949s | um it would be pretty straightforward to |
| 951s | if you would want to take one of these |
| 953s | boats and attach |
| 955s | a store type component to it and you |
| 959s | know that convert that boat into a store |
| 961s | boat essentially but as of so point no |
| 965s | right now we won't feature any |
| 969s | any actual dedicated shopping boats per |
| 972s | se |
| 973s | nice uh there is also with uh some |
| 976s | questions about the visuals for example |
| 978s | it would be virtually different if you |
| 981s | use different wood Style |
| 985s | uh no there's no aesthetic difference in |
| 988s | in the wooden material that you're using |
| 992s | okay see I I think that it would be cool |
| 995s | to have a mod for something like that |
| 996s | but but that comes really after uh I |
| 1000s | think that it has been implemented |
| 1002s | tested and really it takes a quite |
| 1004s | something to to be much working but yeah |
| 1007s | that I think that would be a nice |
| 1009s | feature to include eventually so we have |
| 1011s | uh another question ah there's a comment |
| 1014s | someone say that 1915 more useful would |
| 1017s | be awesome so the question would be more |
| 1019s | like would be field soon be balanced for |
| 1022s | the boats release |
| 1024s | uh yeah there's likely gonna be a |
| 1026s | rebalance of some of the fish types and |
| 1029s | the |
| 1031s | deer types of fish and you're also going |
| 1033s | to look at a big fundamental change in |
| 1036s | in sort of fish quantity |
| 1042s | um harvesting because we have a bunch of |
| 1044s | recipes that are hinged on explicit |
| 1046s | types of fish like the shark uh the |
| 1050s | Pacific sardine that everyone just |
| 1052s | absolutely loves |
| 1054s | [Music] |
| 1055s | um |
| 1056s | and these are gonna be sort of impacted |
| 1060s | differently due to the fact that you're |
| 1062s | not just reliant on fish traps to get |
| 1065s | them but you are going to be able to |
| 1067s | actively Harvest them in the same way |
| 1069s | that you are with hunting |
| 1071s | and so there's gonna be a big |
| 1075s | um bulk Harvest quantity increase |
| 1078s | um that was that'll be something that we |
| 1080s | are taking account for in terms of |
| 1083s | um food balance in general as fish will |
| 1086s | be more |
| 1087s | uh fish will overall be more available |
| 1090s | so |
| 1091s | I I understand with that it makes a lot |
| 1093s | of sense I have a there is I actually |
| 1097s | have so let's imagine that I'm going on |
| 1099s | on my boat and I get to a point really |
| 1102s | foreign from the coast and I don't have |
| 1106s | calories and I don't have a way to go |
| 1109s | back to the city what what is the |
| 1111s | situation that I mean what what should I |
| 1113s | do in that case if I don't have calories |
| 1115s | to return to back to the land |
| 1120s | um |
| 1122s | as of right now you're there's nothing |
| 1125s | really |
| 1128s | um there's nothing really changing in |
| 1130s | terms of not being able to move around |
| 1135s | um |
| 1136s | but overall swimming and improvements to |
| 1140s | that as well as possible equipment for |
| 1142s | it is something that we're looking into |
| 1143s | okay that's nice uh we have a couple of |
| 1147s | more questions uh let me check one |
| 1150s | moment |
| 1151s | and a cable secretion also if it could |
| 1155s | be possible to to take cars on it on a |
| 1158s | boat and also if you have to break the |
| 1160s | car to taken about to make it a little |
| 1163s | more realistic |
| 1165s | um yeah no the um with the barges that |
| 1168s | we have |
| 1169s | um as you can see in the crafting list |
| 1170s | here you got the um |
| 1174s | you got the industrial barge here but I |
| 1178s | think the wooden barge has gone a bit |
| 1181s | astray now it's yeah it's in here it |
| 1184s | shouldn't be in here but it's in here |
| 1186s | um so the wooden barge as well as the |
| 1187s | industrial barge our big platform |
| 1189s | Vehicles Sim ass you would anticipate to |
| 1194s | anticipate them to be and they can carry |
| 1196s | Vehicles directly they don't have a |
| 1198s | dedicated storage and storage as of |
| 1200s | right now |
| 1202s | um so you can you can take two trucks |
| 1204s | and drive onto one of them if you want |
| 1205s | to do and and ship the ship the vehicles |
| 1208s | themselves filled with materials |
| 1210s | that's nice I think it's a nice feature |
| 1212s | to be able to to carry vehicles on the |
| 1215s | on the wall so we have |
| 1217s | um another question uh and that's the |
| 1220s | additional boats really slow down human |
| 1222s | swimmers |
| 1225s | um there is a potential for that yes |
| 1229s | yes as you can imagine uh balancing |
| 1232s | boats is it's very complicated James and |
| 1235s | John have talked about our dad a lot |
| 1237s | because we need to find like the right |
| 1240s | motivation for people to use boats and |
| 1243s | it may imply balancing different stuff I |
| 1245s | mean of course should be learning like |
| 1247s | we mentioned before but yeah swimmers |
| 1249s | it's one of the things that may require |
| 1250s | balance once the e-boats are introduced |
| 1253s | uh another question we have here is |
| 1257s | what happened to the ferry from early |
| 1259s | earlier trailers |
| 1261s | uh it's still there that would be the |
| 1263s | wooden barge |
| 1265s | okay nice so just change the the name |
| 1268s | nice uh another question see it will be |
| 1271s | will there be words that can Harvest |
| 1274s | help |
| 1276s | um not at the moment no that it's all |
| 1280s | the kelp is still manually harvested and |
| 1284s | that is something that we are I I am |
| 1288s | looking into potential |
| 1290s | um farming |
| 1293s | um applications for it but |
| 1296s | um nothing that that we have on the |
| 1298s | table to change for 10.0 |
| 1300s | [Music] |
| 1303s | um okay that's nice I sorry let me check |
| 1305s | the other question uh Window World |
| 1307s | Generation we changed to Admiral Warrior |
| 1309s | between islands now that we have boats |
| 1313s | uh potentially some minor tweaks is |
| 1317s | gonna be on the table yeah |
| 1319s | um |
| 1321s | but as as of world gen in general we do |
| 1324s | try to accommodate |
| 1326s | a large variety of different presets as |
| 1329s | well as trying to accommodate to be |
| 1331s | sorted by a |
| 1333s | a moderate middle ground and then allow |
| 1336s | server administrators to sort of tweak |
| 1339s | and increase the water quantity if they |
| 1341s | want to have more of an island scenario |
| 1343s | or reduce it if they want to have sort |
| 1345s | of a more Coastal world where |
| 1350s | um you have more land mass and you have |
| 1351s | more land land gameplay versus Naval |
| 1354s | interactions so that's something that's |
| 1356s | up to most of the admins to decide on |
| 1358s | their own |
| 1359s | okay see that's nice uh there is another |
| 1362s | question for the for the machines for |
| 1364s | example if I have a excavator on the top |
| 1367s | of a barge where I've been able to be |
| 1370s | yeah the all the vehicle function now |
| 1373s | this will still be open you're you're |
| 1374s | driving the vehicle on top of it and you |
| 1377s | can interact with the vehicle from it |
| 1379s | um it'll be a bit tricky because |
| 1381s | it's going to be locked in with the |
| 1383s | railing but |
| 1384s | [Music] |
| 1384s | um |
| 1385s | you can still do |
| 1388s | weird things or dump failings into the |
| 1391s | ocean if you wanted to or |
| 1394s | whatever you felt like |
| 1396s | that's not nice so yes you can continue |
| 1398s | telling us about the balance and I'll |
| 1402s | let you know when you have additional |
| 1403s | questions |
| 1405s | yeah so |
| 1407s | um on that moving goods from from left |
| 1409s | and right and up and down |
| 1411s | um this is going to be sort of an |
| 1412s | integral part of some of the new system |
| 1415s | changes with with settlements and |
| 1418s | everything else that comes into play |
| 1420s | it'll revolve |
| 1422s | a lot of regionalizations and I think a |
| 1426s | lot of people are gonna opt for |
| 1428s | getting into a canoe or or a middle tier |
| 1431s | vessel |
| 1433s | um |
| 1434s | quite quickly as a means of not have to |
| 1438s | deal with any infrastructure on land |
| 1439s | because you know once you're in a boat |
| 1442s | you have an entire ocean that is a road |
| 1444s | for you |
| 1445s | so you have no you have no uh no other |
| 1448s | players in the way if you're the first |
| 1451s | one on the water with a boat once once |
| 1453s | there's more players you're gonna have a |
| 1456s | um |
| 1457s | an interesting Highway of people trying |
| 1459s | to shuttle Goods back and forth |
| 1461s | and some of the interactions to make |
| 1464s | sure that you'll be able to lock your |
| 1466s | boats down is |
| 1468s | two of the new other World objects which |
| 1471s | is the morning posts a wooden one and a |
| 1475s | steel one that will come in mid early |
| 1477s | early gameplay as well as late gameplay |
| 1480s | and allow you to uh sort of hook up your |
| 1483s | boat and |
| 1486s | nail it down |
| 1489s | [Music] |
| 1498s | that is probably most of it we have some |
| 1504s | some of the parts of it being sort of |
| 1507s | heavily economical wise is the integral |
| 1509s | part of which we try to spend a lot of |
| 1512s | the professions dealing with the |
| 1513s | crafting these |
| 1515s | um so you have Iron Works you've got the |
| 1518s | anchors being made by |
| 1519s | the smelter |
| 1521s | you have some of the mechanical Parts |
| 1523s | being made by the mechanic you've got |
| 1525s | the the ropes being made by the tailor |
| 1528s | um |
| 1530s | and these are gonna have to sort of get |
| 1533s | along sell each other intermediary parts |
| 1536s | and |
| 1537s | be able to help players get their goods |
| 1540s | to where they need them to be |
| 1543s | and hopefully we'll see a lot more |
| 1546s | um Riverside towns and |
| 1548s | Shore provinces sort of crop up due to |
| 1552s | this |
| 1555s | and to sort of go into a little bit of |
| 1558s | how this looks behind the scene |
| 1561s | um as you know you've all seen these |
| 1563s | these pretty assets and it's easy to |
| 1565s | calculate on |
| 1567s | what you're crafting how you're crafting |
| 1569s | and what resources you need to do and |
| 1573s | sort of give an in indication of how it |
| 1575s | looks for um |
| 1577s | when you're actually setting these |
| 1578s | things up |
| 1582s | I'm sorry James a couple of minutes ago |
| 1585s | mentioned that that we need to balance |
| 1588s | some stuff like for example the fitting |
| 1591s | so this is like the template that that |
| 1595s | is used for that I'm sorry for the |
| 1596s | interruptions go go ahead |
| 1599s | yeah um no so this is how it looks at |
| 1602s | the back end when we're dealing with |
| 1605s | implementing new items |
| 1607s | um adding new costs changing out |
| 1609s | resource materials adding descriptions |
| 1611s | to items |
| 1613s | changing out where they're being crafted |
| 1615s | and you know since then is Promised |
| 1617s | spreadsheets I had to give them have to |
| 1620s | give |
| 1622s | some display of it |
| 1623s | and |
| 1626s | it is quite rudimentary in terms of you |
| 1629s | know it is straightforward it is an |
| 1631s | Excel sheet so we take this sheet we |
| 1634s | convert it into something that the |
| 1636s | server reads and |
| 1639s | picks into its place and creates the |
| 1643s | scripts that the server runs on and that |
| 1646s | pops into game as |
| 1648s | as items |
| 1650s | there's a couple of more things in in |
| 1652s | unity and under the hood there that |
| 1654s | works in regards to setting these up |
| 1657s | um technically but |
| 1659s | um on my end it's essentially plugging |
| 1661s | these things in making sure that I |
| 1663s | communicate with art and having these |
| 1665s | assets created and sort of play with the |
| 1669s | team and make sure that everything is |
| 1671s | working correctly |
| 1673s | and then I do a lot of calculations off |
| 1675s | and with multiple other spreadsheets but |
| 1677s | I'm not going to show you those this |
| 1679s | time |
| 1680s | it's that that is really cool I have |
| 1683s | used uh that Excel before I work on the |
| 1686s | on the spoilage of the foot I mean I I |
| 1689s | don't know how for how long have you |
| 1691s | played uh I mean the people watching |
| 1693s | this room but for another Point uh we |
| 1696s | established that food can go bad I mean |
| 1699s | it was a figure that didn't exist before |
| 1701s | so we need to to add some elements to |
| 1705s | this Excel template to add the ability |
| 1709s | for the for the food and also to create |
| 1712s | different items or modifying existing |
| 1715s | items that could help the food to |
| 1718s | preserved for foreign for longer so it's |
| 1721s | really cool because you can literally |
| 1723s | move the values on the Excel and once |
| 1726s | you go to the game the beginning has |
| 1728s | been updated I mean of course we need to |
| 1730s | do some some therapy initially but |
| 1732s | Advanced method is done and you just |
| 1734s | need to move the values and it is |
| 1736s | updated it's very cool the way that that |
| 1738s | it's once so yeah it's really |
| 1741s | go ahead |
| 1743s | yeah not it's it's very true um you know |
| 1746s | when the technical stuff aside |
| 1749s | um once you have an item created and |
| 1751s | it's implemented and everything's set up |
| 1755s | um actually coming into you know |
| 1757s | calculating how much it's gonna cost how |
| 1759s | much it's going to impact the |
| 1760s | environment |
| 1762s | um in terms of something being added to |
| 1764s | the blast furnace for instance how long |
| 1766s | is it going to take to craft |
| 1768s | that will result in x amount of |
| 1771s | pollution being generated |
| 1773s | um so being able to add these both |
| 1776s | recipes in a sense and being able to |
| 1778s | read out how much of an environmental |
| 1781s | impact they're gonna have when they're |
| 1783s | being crafted compared to say an |
| 1785s | excavator |
| 1787s | um and sort of evaluate |
| 1789s | what the cost should be is a very |
| 1792s | intricate and fine-tuning |
| 1795s | um |
| 1796s | Endeavor I should say |
| 1798s | um it's a lot of fun if you like |
| 1800s | spreadsheets and calculations |
| 1803s | um |
| 1803s | but if you're if you're looking at it |
| 1806s | from an art standpoint might not be as |
| 1808s | fun |
| 1810s | yeah but but yeah yeah it's a really |
| 1812s | complicated uh trust I mean a lot of |
| 1814s | games that I have played have had issues |
| 1817s | with violence when it features having |
| 1819s | added I I think that's it's a a really |
| 1822s | nice task maybe not for me but yeah it's |
| 1825s | really nice and yes we have a couple of |
| 1827s | additional questions so let me tell you |
| 1831s | we have uh another question here |
| 1833s | historically Parts could carry a huge |
| 1836s | amount of material especially heavy |
| 1838s | material what's the balance with |
| 1840s | industrial barge compared with modern |
| 1842s | rock uh you know there are much expect |
| 1846s | in the future with more capacity |
| 1850s | um the barges per se are not hinged on |
| 1853s | an inventory |
| 1855s | um they're more of a flat surface |
| 1856s | allowing you to transport Vehicles |
| 1858s | themselves |
| 1860s | so you could essentially take |
| 1863s | I think the industrial barge size wise |
| 1865s | can fit four modern trucks |
| 1868s | um |
| 1870s | but we have speculated on being able to |
| 1872s | use it as a storage |
| 1874s | per se but we're also kind of wanting to |
| 1878s | keep some of that special purpose |
| 1881s | um |
| 1882s | methods through their own vehicles |
| 1884s | to give more of a the bar just being |
| 1887s | more of a direct vehicle transport so |
| 1889s | kind of ferrying over ferrying over your |
| 1892s | truck or your excavator to where it's |
| 1894s | needing to go without having to pick |
| 1897s | them up all the time |
| 1899s | and |
| 1901s | um you're gonna be looking at the |
| 1903s | transport ship |
| 1904s | initially the wooden one |
| 1907s | for your actual Goods transport which |
| 1910s | are going to allow a lot more than you |
| 1912s | just your truck itself |
| 1914s | okay that but I'm sorry that but it |
| 1918s | actually triggers another question that |
| 1920s | we have on the channel already so we |
| 1922s | mentioned that the the departures don't |
| 1925s | carry materials itself is more like a |
| 1927s | platform so are we going to have like |
| 1929s | some sort of cargo chip that that can |
| 1932s | carry materials |
| 1933s | yeah you've got four four point Tano |
| 1938s | that the Townsend Nation release with |
| 1940s | these |
| 1941s | um you're looking at the medium sized |
| 1943s | wooden transport chip |
| 1945s | and were more than likely looking at a |
| 1949s | more modern advanced bigger one later on |
| 1954s | um but it is sort of open air |
| 1956s | to additions |
| 1958s | um both in terms of potential upgraded |
| 1961s | fishing boats but also transports |
| 1963s | themselves |
| 1965s | that's nice a couple of minutes ago we |
| 1968s | talked about the fishing violence uh not |
| 1972s | that that speaking is going to be more |
| 1973s | common are we also going to add more |
| 1976s | recipes I mean is that something that |
| 1977s | that you already have in mind |
| 1981s | um they're being looked at yeah |
| 1983s | um I will I will have to convince Toby |
| 1985s | to uh |
| 1988s | um to spend more more of his time to |
| 1990s | create more Foods |
| 1992s | um since we added the 3D foods they're |
| 1994s | also a little bit more complex to add |
| 1996s | more of |
| 1997s | um but they're also a lot more fun to |
| 1998s | have in game |
| 2000s | yeah I imagine that our players haven't |
| 2003s | really noticed we have pretty food |
| 2005s | that's really nice I love how it looks I |
| 2007s | have seen a couple of pictures from from |
| 2010s | players I mean screen cuts from players |
| 2012s | and and I love how the food looks but it |
| 2015s | comes with with submissions for example |
| 2018s | now that we want to introduce new |
| 2020s | recipes either imply a more additional |
| 2023s | task for the for the art team yeah |
| 2025s | that's that's right I I haven't |
| 2027s | considered that before the question but |
| 2028s | yeah that that's that makes a lot of |
| 2030s | sense |
| 2031s | so we have a another question uh let me |
| 2035s | give you a second since we are talking |
| 2037s | about balance now what are your thoughts |
| 2040s | on model upgrades they get a bit |
| 2042s | problematic with long product chains as |
| 2044s | each step will add the plugin production |
| 2047s | again |
| 2048s | you can also read it on Discord just in |
| 2050s | case yeah I I see that |
| 2054s | um upgrade modules is something that |
| 2057s | we're continuously monitoring |
| 2060s | um |
| 2060s | there is something that I |
| 2062s | want to |
| 2065s | want to sort of rework and how they how |
| 2068s | they're applied to tables in general but |
| 2071s | it's it's a little bit too early to go |
| 2073s | in on that so I'll leave that hanging |
| 2075s | um and answer that potentially in a |
| 2077s | later stream |
| 2079s | okay does night start so I mean we we |
| 2082s | will check in if we can talk about that |
| 2084s | in in uh in another stream let's keep |
| 2086s | with the questions will there be current |
| 2089s | or wine introduced so both can travel |
| 2091s | away then win the hook |
| 2096s | um weather systems in general is is |
| 2100s | another thing that we're |
| 2102s | we've looked at and |
| 2106s | It's tricky because there's a lot of |
| 2108s | factors involved in |
| 2110s | making it play nice with different |
| 2112s | systems right now we have a simulated |
| 2114s | wind system |
| 2116s | um as well as solar which is kind of |
| 2120s | height dependent and |
| 2123s | um |
| 2125s | you know it's visually only applying on |
| 2128s | artificially on trees and brushes to to |
| 2131s | get the world to look more alive but |
| 2133s | it's nothing that actually |
| 2135s | physically impacts it |
| 2137s | it comes with its own its own positives |
| 2141s | and negatives |
| 2142s | [Music] |
| 2143s | it is something that's on the board and |
| 2146s | something we're interested in |
| 2148s | implementing but it's also |
| 2150s | something out of concern for performance |
| 2153s | but also kind of figuring out how the |
| 2156s | system would fit in and what the |
| 2159s | positives would be and you know what |
| 2161s | effects we want out of it |
| 2163s | um |
| 2164s | because it would be something that could |
| 2166s | look really cool to push |
| 2168s | push water around and have a breeze or |
| 2172s | you know if you add sailing boats and |
| 2174s | they would move them faster or |
| 2177s | um |
| 2178s | catch them dead still in the water if |
| 2180s | you don't have wind |
| 2181s | um but yeah it's a system that we're |
| 2184s | playing around with but it's nothing |
| 2186s | nothing nailed down to any specific |
| 2188s | version and or |
| 2190s | um |
| 2191s | when it's happening but it is being |
| 2193s | looked at out of design point |
| 2197s | okay nice uh another question but but |
| 2200s | yeah no I I every weekends here the |
| 2202s | weather systems I mean even only |
| 2204s | including wine it's really complicated |
| 2207s | and the Mad behind that would be really |
| 2211s | expensive for the for the CPU for |
| 2213s | example I mean well they think all the |
| 2215s | iteration that it need to be done to |
| 2218s | achieve our realistic system it's quite |
| 2220s | complicated so that way before we |
| 2223s | include a picture we still need to |
| 2225s | to decide if it is work for the for the |
| 2228s | gameplay considering all uh another |
| 2231s | question that we have here how do we |
| 2233s | overcome a difference in Reverse with |
| 2236s | boats |
| 2240s | first |
| 2243s | um |
| 2245s | let me give you a second yeah I sent you |
| 2248s | on the on Discord challenge just in case |
| 2250s | oh yeah um the the height differences |
| 2252s | between reversed |
| 2254s | um |
| 2256s | generally boats don't go Upstream |
| 2259s | I I think is the uh is the summary of |
| 2262s | that |
| 2264s | um |
| 2265s | it is one of our most tricky parts of |
| 2269s | physics and maneuverability with the |
| 2272s | boats that we're looking into |
| 2275s | um so it's it's still undecided how we |
| 2277s | want to kind of deal with it it's |
| 2281s | where we're testing out the system |
| 2282s | internally um so I don't really have a |
| 2284s | good answer for that |
| 2287s | um |
| 2289s | all I can say it looks really funny |
| 2291s | right now |
| 2292s | I think is the uh the answer for that |
| 2295s | one |
| 2296s | yeah that's that's a really complicated |
| 2298s | problem I mean even in the real world I |
| 2301s | mean we have for example if we |
| 2305s | see how the how Panama solves that issue |
| 2308s | it's really complicated because they had |
| 2311s | like to to create multiple platforms to |
| 2313s | adjust the height of the Wilderness it's |
| 2316s | really complicated in real life not in |
| 2319s | the game it's it's something that yeah |
| 2320s | we need to |
| 2324s | it's already something that that they |
| 2328s | are working on |
| 2329s | so let's talk about the next question |
| 2332s | will the boats rust I mean do the Bots |
| 2335s | will need some sort of maintenance |
| 2339s | not well partially I should say |
| 2343s | um the similar to how cards and the |
| 2345s | trucks are not really |
| 2348s | having a maintenance or a modular system |
| 2350s | to them where things break or things get |
| 2352s | damaged the workable vehicle has so we |
| 2356s | we have a modular system for the um the |
| 2360s | fishing boat similar in terms of the way |
| 2363s | we have it applied to |
| 2365s | we finally have it applied to the um |
| 2368s | uh the steam tractor where your your |
| 2371s | plow and your Harvester and see their |
| 2374s | brakes on durability as if you're using |
| 2377s | it |
| 2378s | the fishing boats will also have durable |
| 2381s | parts for the |
| 2384s | um the fishing nets or the mesh Nets |
| 2386s | that they're trolling with so those will |
| 2389s | be needing to be repaired |
| 2391s | which I currently have assigned to |
| 2396s | tailoring I think or if it's hunting I |
| 2399s | left it at |
| 2400s | um |
| 2402s | sort of give it a touch of the whole |
| 2405s | fishing rod and the fishing expansion |
| 2409s | um in the annual so yeah we'll have |
| 2410s | we'll have a repairable part for the |
| 2412s | fishing boat so you're not going to be |
| 2413s | able to just fish infinitely for free |
| 2418s | yeah that's that's all the questions |
| 2420s | that that we had so far so so yeah you |
| 2422s | can continue if you want to tell us more |
| 2424s | about the virtual balance itself |
| 2431s | I think I'm kinda |
| 2434s | counting or running out of things to |
| 2436s | sort of go ahead without touching too |
| 2438s | far into |
| 2440s | some of the mechanics and the |
| 2442s | intricacies that we we want to showcase |
| 2445s | later on |
| 2447s | they the boats have some new some new |
| 2450s | general features that |
| 2454s | um |
| 2455s | I think everyone's going to be happy |
| 2457s | with |
| 2460s | um |
| 2460s | as far as you can see Dennis |
| 2463s | on the on the upgrade modules |
| 2466s | um I think I cupboard |
| 2469s | some of it but yeah they they um they do |
| 2472s | get problematic and it's something that |
| 2474s | I want to change out and if we want to |
| 2475s | go on on a bit more detailed |
| 2478s | design choice for them is |
| 2482s | um I I want to semi scrap them if you |
| 2486s | will |
| 2487s | um |
| 2489s | so instead of instead of you being able |
| 2492s | to Interchange uh intermittently change |
| 2495s | them out between module one two three |
| 2498s | four you would sort of permanently |
| 2500s | upgrade your workbench towards a |
| 2503s | specific upgrade so you would grab parts |
| 2504s | from someone crafting them apply the |
| 2507s | upgrade to the table it'll permanently |
| 2509s | improve the table and its capacity but |
| 2512s | it'll also increase the requirements of |
| 2515s | that table in terms of either room |
| 2517s | room quality material tier |
| 2521s | and potential energy |
| 2524s | applicants and adding different |
| 2527s | properties |
| 2528s | well that's that's really nice I think |
| 2530s | that's sort of the only questions that |
| 2532s | we have about some balance there was |
| 2534s | another question for the economy B War |
| 2536s | uh the question was if the if we are |
| 2540s | going to film two times that are out of |
| 2542s | a stock I think that's a nice feature to |
| 2545s | consider because while I mean it can |
| 2547s | help to |
| 2549s | realize what their server and the people |
| 2551s | need I think that is a nice feature we |
| 2554s | also I picked the document the Google |
| 2556s | forms and we have uh we had a lot of |
| 2559s | answers I'm really happy with that I'm |
| 2561s | going to read them but nothing stupid |
| 2563s | because it has a lot of information |
| 2565s | there but but yeah that that is being |
| 2568s | all for today thank you everyone for |
| 2570s | coming to the stream we are going to |
| 2573s | have another stream the next week and |
| 2575s | well Dennis will be giving you more |
| 2577s | information about the Linux Stream So |
| 2580s | that would be all for today thank you |
| 2582s | everyone |
| 2583s | and see you later bye bye |
| 2586s | bye bye |