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| 1s | hello welcome to the Eco dev stream I'm |
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| 5s | John Kay designer and eco CEO strange |
| 7s | loop to my left I have Craig he's a |
| 10s | programmer and designer on eco and today |
| 13s | we're gonna be talking about a few |
| 14s | things we're going to be talking about |
| 16s | our 8.0 release what features are in |
| 20s | there kind of shown you what's what's |
| 22s | the latest then we're gonna get into the |
| 25s | changes coming in 8.1 which is a few |
| 28s | weeks out which is mostly improvements |
| 32s | and bug fixes and performance |
| 34s | improvements and then we're gonna talk |
| 37s | about what's happening in a 9.0 get a |
| 40s | little teaser of that it's still a long |
| 42s | ways off for that but we've got some |
| 44s | really cool stuff for building for that |
| 45s | and then we're going to answer questions |
| 49s | from the streams here and that we've |
| 51s | collected on discord over the past |
| 53s | couple weeks so yeah let's take a look |
| 57s | so here is this is an 8.0 world and one |
| 63s | of the major features we've added in 8.0 |
| 65s | is just all these different biomes so |
| 67s | it's kind of a grassland biome here and |
| 69s | everybody homes got new plants and new |
| 71s | animals in it so you see this giant |
| 74s | redwood here this is one of the new |
| 76s | trees we've added these things are |
| 78s | massive so these is like old-growth |
| 80s | forest and if you chop down one of these |
| 82s | it's not really gonna grow back in any |
| 85s | span of you know human timeframes so |
| 89s | these are massive amount of wood that |
| 93s | you get from these but they come at |
| 96s | destruction of the environment that's |
| 97s | kind of irreplaceable so it's kind of a |
| 99s | cool new thing we've added that you know |
| 101s | most of the ecosystem has been pretty |
| 104s | capable of regenerating but there is |
| 106s | some specific stuff like these |
| 108s | old-growth forests that don't really |
| 111s | regenerate on any kind of reasonable |
| 113s | time frame and we wanted to capture that |
| 115s | in the game a lot so these these |
| 117s | redwoods do that there's kind of other |
| 119s | resources we'll plan for that like oil |
| 121s | will be something that |
| 123s | not renewable and yeah just kind of |
| 127s | gives another another aspect to the |
| 129s | renewable nature of these ecosystems oh |
| 132s | we should go check out that Lake or |
| 134s | looking at yeah so lakes are another |
| 139s | feature we've added so in addition to |
| 141s | rivers we've got these lakes and these |
| 144s | will spawn you know in wooded areas or |
| 146s | grassland areas and it's just kind of a |
| 148s | nice little spot where you can set up a |
| 150s | village but it also provides access to |
| 153s | water specifically fresh water which is |
| 157s | gonna be a feature in a later version |
| 159s | and so that works really well with the |
| 161s | new pipe system we've added so that you |
| 163s | can create like sewage systems for your |
| 166s | buildings and that's one of the main new |
| 169s | features in 8.0 also so if we want to |
| 171s | show some of those pipes now so this is |
| 175s | a blast furnace rigged up we can show |
| 177s | the pumps will show the lake of starting |
| 180s | pumps there we just have debug objects |
| 183s | now but there's two different kinds of |
| 184s | pumps there's mechanical and there's |
| 186s | electrical pumps and so these are all |
| 188s | hooked up to a water source if you can |
| 190s | see that and kind of spawn these in and |
| 193s | then they are pumped out and piped into |
| 196s | these buildings here so I'm kind of |
| 200s | follow you know debug fly through the |
| 201s | world and see that we've hooked up all |
| 204s | this plumbing underneath the world to |
| 207s | connect these objects so a lot of |
| 209s | objects now will consume liquid and |
| 212s | later oil so you can see here that it's |
| 215s | inputting water at this rate from these |
| 218s | ones at four different pumps and it's |
| 221s | outputting sewage at about the same rate |
| 224s | and in addition to the smog that's |
| 226s | outputting at the top so it's another |
| 229s | important element to creating these |
| 231s | buildings in villages is having this |
| 234s | sewage system and what I really like |
| 236s | about it is that it |
| 237s | it's kind of a public thing like you |
| 240s | have to create it as a group and share |
| 242s | it among the village so as an individual |
| 245s | that's really difficult to do but as |
| 247s | part of a you know tax funded government |
| 249s | society it's something that you have a |
| 251s | lot more ability to accomplish so any |
| 254s | more features like that is a priority |
| 255s | for us like the things you do in the |
| 257s | game should really benefit from taxes |
| 259s | and collaboration and yeah that's |
| 262s | definitely a theme of the features we |
| 264s | want to add so what kind of objects do |
| 266s | you expect to have sewage just like |
| 268s | everything yeah um it kind of depends |
| 272s | maybe you want to talk about the ones |
| 273s | that we've added for it so right now I |
| 275s | guess we've mostly focused on the later |
| 277s | game objects actually in 8.0 we don't |
| 281s | have the two different types of pumps so |
| 283s | always kind of mostly regularly or |
| 285s | mostly just a your game objects but |
| 287s | since we've added the new mechanical and |
| 289s | the electrical pump we can kind of allow |
| 293s | that to enter the game of it earlier so |
| 296s | and yet so what do I like the treatment |
| 299s | of sewage yeah do you want to show a |
| 301s | world that Sue is just going to fly |
| 303s | under the whirling sea look like John |
| 304s | pipes you have set up like your water so |
| 309s | yeah can you sure that like different |
| 311s | sewage pipes that are going into it why |
| 313s | under the landscape there we go yeah so |
| 317s | you can see there's we have two |
| 318s | different types of the input pipes and |
| 319s | the output types if you just go straight |
| 323s | down you'll see both of them there we go |
| 326s | kind of fly back a little bit that's |
| 328s | cool to see them from the side |
| 335s | and then we go to get a nice look at the |
| 337s | plumbing system here you can see all the |
| 340s | gray ones are the input pipes copper |
| 343s | ones so you can imagine as you're |
| 344s | building these things you're having to |
| 346s | you know you don't have to put them |
| 347s | underground but it's a good way to kind |
| 349s | of hide them away so it provides us |
| 350s | really interesting different elements of |
| 352s | building you got to think about not just |
| 354s | for your buildings gonna go but how it's |
| 356s | gonna be rigged up so I think it as well |
| 360s | as like being an interesting |
| 361s | collaborative project it makes building |
| 363s | more interesting too so you can see that |
| 365s | like for example here we have the |
| 367s | workbench which is in putting water out |
| 370s | putting sewage and if we follow that |
| 373s | sewage we see that's going to this |
| 375s | underground water filter so this water |
| 379s | filter here is taking sewage as an input |
| 384s | instead of an output and outputting |
| 386s | clean water and if you go over to the |
| 389s | status panel so as it filters that it |
| 392s | builds compost so you can see this |
| 394s | compost block slowly building up as its |
| 397s | as water is being filtered and let me |
| 400s | see the yeah here's the the compost |
| 403s | blocks and you can actually use these in |
| 405s | fertilizer recipes so you take this |
| 407s | pollution and you're able to use it for |
| 409s | something useful for your farming you |
| 411s | see if it's piling up here I think it's |
| 413s | under can water here yeah this is a big |
| 415s | mound of compost right there well here |
| 420s | it is there we go compost blocks |
| 423s | yeah yeah so that's the fertilizer |
| 426s | system which Craig put together so how |
| 429s | would you use that once you you know so |
| 431s | fertilizer right now is something that |
| 433s | needs to have like a little bit of work |
| 436s | on but currently you can kind of take |
| 438s | the compost and you can just process |
| 441s | into a fertilizer which will improve the |
| 442s | nutrients of the soil which is something |
| 444s | that gets depleted sort of as you farm |
| 447s | and it's definitely something as far as |
| 450s | like compost goes if we want to work it |
| 451s | into like a bunch of different things |
| 453s | like maybe biofuels stuff like that like |
| 455s | there's a lot of different herbs we |
| 456s | could go with that and I think this is |
| 458s | kind of like the first step towards the |
| 459s | whole like sewage Network and building |
| 462s | that out a little bit the giant redwoods |
| 468s | that stick out like that so yeah ton of |
| 471s | work on the art side and we've had a ton |
| 473s | of different plants and animals for this |
| 474s | so lots of new stuff to see there so |
| 477s | yeah I couldn't want to touch on what |
| 479s | we're what's gonna come out in this like |
| 481s | new update that's coming out in a couple |
| 482s | weeks sure I know it's a lot of bug |
| 484s | fixes and stuff but is there anything |
| 485s | specific you want it's mainly focused on |
| 488s | performance bug fixes you know getting |
| 492s | the frame rate up for everything just |
| 494s | optimizing and it should be quite a bit |
| 497s | faster or respecting to remove basically |
| 499s | all the leg that you would see when you |
| 502s | know you're just running a server |
| 503s | normally that freaked him out so yeah |
| 508s | that's just it's just the full focus on |
| 510s | polish so we're not planning to add any |
| 512s | new features just fixing bugs and then |
| 517s | after that we're gonna move on to 9.0 |
| 518s | over we'll have some really big features |
| 520s | so at least for a point one from this |
| 523s | gills side which is kind of what I |
| 525s | worked on you know there's like a big an |
| 527s | 8-point others are kind of a pretty big |
| 528s | shift and how the skills are implemented |
| 531s | and in 8.1 there's gonna be a bunch of |
| 534s | changes I'm not like not master changes |
| 537s | but like small changes I should make it |
| 539s | a little bit more playable as we've gone |
| 540s | through and seen kind of the effect |
| 542s | the system currently like the |
| 545s | self-improvement skill currently |
| 547s | provides kind of an excessive bonus |
| 549s | that's being changed pretty |
| 551s | significantly there's a couple of bugs |
| 553s | with the system where certain things |
| 555s | didn't work properly those were being |
| 556s | fixed prior to releasing it we kind of |
| 561s | have like two different competing |
| 562s | systems where we had things locked down |
| 566s | in some trees and things unlocked |
| 567s | another is just kind of to see which one |
| 569s | would do better which one just had a |
| 571s | better gameplay impact so I think when a |
| 574s | poor one comes out you'll see a little |
| 576s | bit more of the recipes locked behind |
| 578s | skill levels so hopefully players will |
| 580s | find their specialties a little bit more |
| 581s | meaningful again so for people who |
| 584s | haven't played the latest update with |
| 586s | 8.0 we change a skill system so that you |
| 589s | are rather than unlocking lots of |
| 592s | individual skills inside of a single |
| 594s | tree or unlocking these kind of larger |
| 595s | specialties which you then level up as |
| 598s | you go so you gain specialties from your |
| 600s | food and housing and you get these stars |
| 602s | and then you choose which which |
| 605s | specialties under which professions you |
| 606s | want so here you can see can you take |
| 609s | the log and special to you do you have |
| 610s | any good a hewing one here so hewing I |
| 615s | have leveled up to level seven so you |
| 617s | have all these like efficiency bonuses |
| 619s | it makes it much better and then at |
| 621s | levels three and six you get these |
| 623s | talent unlocks so you get to choose |
| 625s | between these two you know special |
| 628s | abilities that you kind of unlock as you |
| 629s | go so another way to kind of customize |
| 633s | your character as you go and that's |
| 635s | something we're gonna be expanding on |
| 636s | these and making them do more stuff and |
| 639s | yeah really letting you differentiate |
| 642s | yourself even within a single specialty |
| 644s | you can have you know a kind of sub |
| 645s | specialties so we're gonna be keep |
| 648s | keeping iterate on in the iterating on |
| 651s | the new skill system looking forward to |
| 653s | see what what Craig's got in there yeah |
| 657s | what's next so I'm pretty sure he will |
| 660s | probably pretty excited to you about |
| 660s | what's gonna happen like obviously this |
| 663s | is a lot further in the future right |
| 664s | because their next batch is gonna be a |
| 666s | bunch of bug fixes but past that like |
| 668s | what we're looking to add so I know you |
| 669s | have a lot of yeah |
| 671s | so 9.0 I've been working on that quite a |
| 673s | bit and it's going to be focused on laws |
| 677s | and just kind of civics in general so |
| 681s | one of the major things are going to be |
| 682s | adding is a constitution so right now in |
| 685s | the game when you start the game you |
| 687s | already have access to voting |
| 689s | I'm elections and those work in a very |
| 693s | specific way but with 9.0 the the |
| 696s | community is gonna decide how that works |
| 697s | so you'll actually create a constitution |
| 699s | that has articles and one of those |
| 701s | articles might say this is how an |
| 703s | election runs how long it takes this is |
| 705s | who can vote this is who can veto it |
| 707s | this is who can impeach this person so |
| 710s | you have ton of flexibility in setting |
| 712s | up government positions like you know |
| 715s | the Minister of Transportation you know |
| 717s | all kinds of different things whatever |
| 719s | you want to do and letting players |
| 722s | really not just participate in a |
| 725s | government which is kind of what we've |
| 727s | had previous the 9.0 but actually create |
| 730s | a government so this is something that |
| 732s | I've been really excited about from the |
| 733s | beginning of eco and I think it'll uh |
| 736s | it'll really add a new layer to the game |
| 739s | some of the other things they're going |
| 740s | to go along with that are just having |
| 743s | elections being a lot more flexible so |
| 746s | rather than just electing a person or a |
| 748s | law you can elect you can decide what |
| 751s | civic actions require elections so maybe |
| 754s | creating a district requires an election |
| 756s | of Representatives or a certain class of |
| 758s | citizens and you'll have a lot more |
| 761s | flexibility and how demographics work so |
| 762s | you can decide you know active citizens |
| 765s | versus inactive versus people who are |
| 767s | minors who have certain sets of skills |
| 770s | who have a certain amount of wealth and |
| 773s | really structure these societies in just |
| 775s | infinite ways so I'm super excited to |
| 779s | get this one out and see what kind of |
| 781s | things players are gonna do so it and |
| 785s | another big feature of 9.0 is the the |
| 787s | tax system upgrade so right now taxes |
| 791s | all go into the Treasury which means |
| 793s | your government is pretty simple you |
| 794s | just have this one guy |
| 795s | humph of money but with 9.0 you'll be |
| 798s | able to create we can already create |
| 800s | bank accounts but you'll be able to |
| 802s | divide up where those taxes go into |
| 804s | which bank account you know which |
| 806s | leaders can use it how can they use it |
| 809s | what can they apply it to and those bank |
| 813s | accounts can be tied to the elected |
| 815s | position so if somebody gets impeached |
| 817s | they lose access immediately to those |
| 820s | those bank accounts that they have |
| 822s | so the system is super flexible and so |
| 825s | it's pretty complex so I also want to |
| 827s | put a lot of time into just making it |
| 829s | accessible like you can you know it |
| 832s | feels fun to like create this government |
| 834s | it doesn't feel overwhelming you know |
| 836s | you're making these interesting |
| 837s | decisions with the other people on your |
| 838s | server so yeah that's kind of a brief |
| 841s | discussion of it and we'll have lots |
| 843s | more to show over the coming months and |
| 846s | I'll start start doing blogs we have a |
| 848s | new Friday blog that we do every week |
| 850s | that just talks about feature in |
| 853s | specific detail so I'll probably start |
| 855s | writing about 9.0 features soon um so as |
| 859s | far as 9.0 things that aren't exactly |
| 862s | related to just economy or week planning |
| 864s | on anything else we're still kind of |
| 867s | working it out I know I you probably |
| 869s | have a lot of stuff you don't know when |
| 871s | skills still yeah so I think just |
| 875s | continued balancing continued |
| 876s | performance optimizations yeah and the |
| 880s | full feature set will be be worked out |
| 882s | over time but yeah there's a lot more to |
| 885s | come and we also have a lot more biome |
| 887s | stuff we want to get in like insects and |
| 890s | invertebrates is a big one so we have a |
| 893s | couple of those like we have butterflies |
| 897s | and we want to add more things like that |
| 899s | that function is like an indicator of |
| 901s | the ecosystems health so if you're |
| 903s | seeing a lot of these creatures around |
| 905s | you know it tells you something about |
| 906s | the ecosystem is there not there then |
| 908s | that's something else so another way to |
| 911s | like understand what's happening in |
| 913s | there |
| 913s | also sound as good a big update to our |
| 916s | gonna bring on a new sound designer and |
| 921s | start building the audio experiences so |
| 923s | that you really have this feeling of |
| 925s | being in nature or being in a village |
| 926s | being in society so that's kind of thing |
| 930s | that like you don't really notice until |
| 932s | it's there but it makes a massive impact |
| 933s | just creating that ambience alright |
| 939s | should we answer some questions oh yeah |
| 941s | sure so we're gonna answer the questions |
| 943s | that came to us through discord first |
| 944s | and then we'll go through all the ones |
| 946s | I've noted from the chat so if you guys |
| 948s | have questions just feel free to write |
| 950s | them in chat and hopefully we'll get to |
| 951s | them so the first question is will be |
| 955s | possible to die in the future for |
| 956s | example bad nutrition falling from a |
| 958s | high place getting attacked by a wolf |
| 960s | board or taking aspirin to the face all |
| 964s | right |
| 964s | you pretty much immortal right now I |
| 968s | think I would like to do that I think |
| 970s | that would be a good addition but in a |
| 972s | way that makes sense for the game and |
| 975s | that means that it has some kind of |
| 977s | collaborative application so I really |
| 979s | like the idea of like illnesses or |
| 980s | doctors or injuries so that you know if |
| 983s | you get injured there's some specialty |
| 986s | that can help you right so you can |
| 989s | become healthier with the addition of |
| 990s | like doctors or professions that are |
| 992s | focused than that so yeah it's not in |
| 996s | the immediate timetable but that is |
| 997s | something long-term I think would be |
| 998s | great yeah I don't really think like we |
| 1002s | talked before about like having calorie |
| 1004s | damn doing this sort of in the game |
| 1005s | already in terms of that one mushroom |
| 1007s | and like as far as falling damage that's |
| 1010s | like in I mean even diving right if you |
| 1012s | stand her water too long you leave your |
| 1013s | calories in or do you think the health |
| 1016s | system being expanded could totally lead |
| 1017s | to something |
| 1018s | like in this vein but I feel like when |
| 1022s | people ask this question a lot of times |
| 1023s | they're talking well actually this |
| 1024s | question specifically is worded not this |
| 1026s | way but a lot of times when this is |
| 1027s | brought up people want to ship each |
| 1028s | other with bows okay alright our second |
| 1036s | question is are we going to update the |
| 1039s | mod cave for water pipes I think the |
| 1041s | answer that yes in 9.0 yeah so that |
| 1045s | would be the ability for objects to use |
| 1046s | them yeah yeah that's definitely |
| 1050s | something I would love to have people |
| 1051s | make more use of yeah especially because |
| 1053s | it's going to be a more integral part of |
| 1055s | the game especially later on in the game |
| 1056s | people make mods for all sorts of stuff |
| 1058s | some pretty cool stuff and having them |
| 1060s | be able to like integrate into base a |
| 1062s | pretty crucial system seems pretty |
| 1064s | important dissing general mods are a |
| 1065s | huge focus of our long-term goals for |
| 1068s | this game as we want it to you know |
| 1070s | someone could do a total conversion on |
| 1071s | this and make it really interesting |
| 1073s | different type of game I think it's |
| 1076s | really gonna help but just what's the |
| 1077s | like you know 10 years out of longevity |
| 1079s | of this game and like future games that |
| 1081s | we do having that ability to really get |
| 1084s | in there and change stuff okay question |
| 1090s | are water |
| 1091s | realistic water physics it's like our |
| 1095s | last game vessel yeah I already did that |
| 1098s | but it's a much different situation and |
| 1101s | yeah oh we have kind of like very basic |
| 1103s | water physics where it'll flow a little |
| 1104s | bit the trick is the like get something |
| 1108s | realistic that doesn't just kill your |
| 1110s | performance so I think in ways that it |
| 1114s | contributes to the |
| 1115s | core pillars of the game like sewage is |
| 1119s | a good example of how our using water |
| 1121s | you know rather than having water that |
| 1123s | flows an interesting way like you have |
| 1124s | its collaborative project and that's |
| 1127s | really the focus so we'll probably |
| 1128s | continue in that direction I could see |
| 1130s | us upgrading water making just behave |
| 1132s | nicer in general though yeah I think |
| 1134s | that's what people really want the just |
| 1136s | like it doesn't need to be like |
| 1137s | perfectly yeah well in water right but |
| 1140s | it behaves in a predictable way that |
| 1142s | like they can kind of control especially |
| 1144s | when they're doing these work projects |
| 1145s | right they want to be able to like make |
| 1146s | sure the water doesn't just like yeah |
| 1150s | absolutely |
| 1152s | this will have like fresh water salt |
| 1154s | water and polluted water will have |
| 1156s | different effects oh yeah for sure like |
| 1158s | a different liquid types again yeah |
| 1159s | right now you can use them |
| 1161s | interchangeably but in the future you'll |
| 1163s | need to pay attention to that so if you |
| 1164s | pollute your water supply for example |
| 1165s | that can be a big problem it's the next |
| 1169s | questions about the skills UI so we are |
| 1171s | making changes to this skill you I just |
| 1173s | kind of continual improvements and we |
| 1177s | added this this new thing oh yeah we |
| 1179s | have the new specialty tracker you can |
| 1182s | track your exp oh here we go |
| 1189s | yeah this is your specialties that you |
| 1191s | have now and you can see the different |
| 1195s | XP that it goes so for example if I chop |
| 1197s | down a tree then you already max level |
| 1200s | so okay one shot this guy you can see |
| 1205s | that why because I didn't have tell you |
| 1212s | why |
| 1214s | and if you take that specialty then |
| 1217s | you'll start earning in scale so just |
| 1218s | it's a way to like understand the system |
| 1220s | better for people who aren't familiar |
| 1221s | with it and also be a nice little |
| 1222s | tracker and if you don't like it you can |
| 1225s | turn it off too so it's really just a |
| 1227s | nice little display that it shows the |
| 1230s | extra complexity in the system |
| 1232s | yeah so somebody's starting to sort of |
| 1236s | fall up to the water thing they're |
| 1237s | talking about something mentioned like |
| 1239s | sewage liquid and that is something we |
| 1241s | want to have like eventually we want to |
| 1243s | be able to have like sewage pools in the |
| 1245s | right yeah rather than because right now |
| 1247s | all right I just talking goes into a |
| 1248s | pollution layer kind of disappears but |
| 1250s | ideally it would turn into like soo much |
| 1253s | liquid and then you could have sewage |
| 1254s | ponds and you could like show that into |
| 1256s | your river and it would like yeah that's |
| 1259s | that's kind of what we're what we would |
| 1262s | like to expecially was like other |
| 1264s | liquids like oil oh yes oil like oil |
| 1266s | spills would be cool yeah there's a lot |
| 1269s | of that can be done within the whole |
| 1270s | life big weights thing possible would it |
| 1272s | change but yeah all right so the next |
| 1275s | question is any plans to expand the |
| 1277s | gameplay or iteration of it this is sort |
| 1281s | of like after they complete the meteor |
| 1284s | right now it's it's a little bit awkward |
| 1285s | because different people playing for the |
| 1287s | mouse they completely game at different |
| 1288s | rates but generally this is actually |
| 1291s | another person ask this question about |
| 1292s | like getting kind of like the coolest |
| 1295s | tools right kind of just before you |
| 1296s | defeat the meteor so like you kind of |
| 1298s | want more time to play with them yeah I |
| 1300s | know in the past we've talked about |
| 1302s | maybe having other disasters I know |
| 1305s | that's not close to like be a future |
| 1308s | future kind of feature yeah but it is |
| 1311s | definitely something that we're going to |
| 1312s | add and we actually have some prototypes |
| 1316s | and some things we've been working on |
| 1317s | for that it's still far future but you |
| 1320s | can expect that like the meteor won't be |
| 1323s | the end of the game in the final version |
| 1325s | will have other stuff which we're kind |
| 1327s | of not talking about yet but yeah you |
| 1331s | might be able to get some ideas of that |
| 1332s | direction that's gonna go so should be |
| 1335s | pretty exciting and as far as just for |
| 1337s | like the length of the game in terms of |
| 1339s | balancing um there's a lot of variables |
| 1341s | we can play with and that we kind of |
| 1344s | have to because of like the varying |
| 1345s | amount of players in the amount of time |
| 1347s | commitments the amount of each |
| 1348s | individual do some people takes too long |
| 1350s | to complete any task some people do it |
| 1351s | in like a day so yeah there's a lot of |
| 1355s | tweaking to be done there for sure and |
| 1356s | that's something we're gonna continue on |
| 1358s | in 29.0 with I also think that like even |
| 1361s | if there's once you've destroyed the |
| 1362s | meteor there's a lot of just interesting |
| 1365s | effects you can get from running this |
| 1366s | society I can make the economy itself |
| 1369s | building an economy it's |
| 1370s | or researching so there's all kinds of |
| 1372s | like you know things that can be |
| 1375s | interesting without a threat even I'd |
| 1378s | like to expand okay so the last question |
| 1382s | is about mining it's sort of about |
| 1385s | basalt and just like kind of the |
| 1388s | difficulty of mining in 8.0 so in 8.0 |
| 1391s | just for those who haven't played it we |
| 1393s | introduced a tier system for pickaxes |
| 1395s | and it's kind of the first straight |
| 1398s | stair system we had for any of the tools |
| 1401s | and it's sort of like a test run to see |
| 1403s | if this is the direction we want to go |
| 1405s | and introduce some problems in certain |
| 1409s | areas of the game so at least for 8.6 we |
| 1413s | have changed it slightly to where the |
| 1416s | rocks can be destroyed |
| 1418s | they just have health similar to kind of |
| 1419s | how you would do trees how you cut down |
| 1421s | trees then rocks will now be more |
| 1425s | difficult to destroy with the weaker |
| 1426s | pickaxe so you try and mind the salt |
| 1428s | with your stone pickaxe it's going to be |
| 1430s | extremely difficult it may need a lot of |
| 1432s | calories it's gonna slow you down a lot |
| 1434s | so this sort of avoids the problem of |
| 1439s | people getting locked out of being able |
| 1440s | to do anything you can now kind of |
| 1443s | settle in a place where you only have |
| 1445s | access to the salt and still do your |
| 1446s | stone working it's just very difficult |
| 1449s | it also allows you like if you happen to |
| 1451s | need to like currently if you wanted to |
| 1453s | build a house like right here and this |
| 1454s | stone was in your way you could at least |
| 1456s | get rid of it now yeah sort of what |
| 1460s | we're heading in that direction |
| 1461s | I don't think that we can count out |
| 1465s | having these tier Locke things for good |
| 1468s | I think it might come back but for now |
| 1470s | this is the direction we chosen go to |
| 1471s | see how this plays out as well I also |
| 1474s | talked about having like some of the |
| 1475s | resources you can't harvest until later |
| 1477s | like me oh yeah the big redwoods you |
| 1479s | can't chop down on the first day right |
| 1481s | like you have to build yeah sure and I |
| 1484s | think that's well more likely come into |
| 1486s | play soon I think at least with the tow |
| 1489s | system we proved the candidate can |
| 1490s | definitely work we just need to be |
| 1493s | careful about how we |
| 1495s | [Music] |
| 1497s | so a couple people asked about trains |
| 1499s | and it rains pretty popular among people |
| 1502s | yeah definitely want to have trains in |
| 1505s | the game yeah that's it's one of our |
| 1507s | long-term features but you know as I |
| 1511s | think about eco is like we can keep |
| 1513s | adding fidelity and more depth to the |
| 1517s | simulation forever like as long as the |
| 1519s | game has the support of the community |
| 1520s | we're gonna keep developing it so trains |
| 1524s | are definitely something I would love to |
| 1525s | see in the game I think it goes great |
| 1526s | with the transportation mechanic we have |
| 1529s | which is a huge part of the game so it |
| 1530s | makes sense to kind of level off your |
| 1532s | transportation up to trains being a huge |
| 1534s | one so yeah it's not not on the radar |
| 1537s | yet but it is something in our future |
| 1540s | okay and somebody had a question about |
| 1542s | fish recipes which just in cooking in |
| 1544s | general fish are a little bit underused |
| 1547s | they're definitely going to get just in |
| 1551s | general |
| 1552s | a lot of the cooking is going D an |
| 1554s | update especially with biomes we added |
| 1557s | so many new ingredients there's just a |
| 1560s | lot of new things that need to be |
| 1561s | utilized and hopefully I should have |
| 1563s | happy you like farming all the different |
| 1565s | kinds of resources not just wheat grass |
| 1568s | lands yeah we've been talking about |
| 1570s | adding that crafting tag system yeah |
| 1573s | that work so tie crafting is sort of |
| 1576s | this idea that instead of all of our |
| 1578s | recipes taking very specific ingredients |
| 1581s | like you know if you played a point on |
| 1584s | you know that now we have a recipe that |
| 1585s | breaks the stone down into generic stone |
| 1587s | and this was done because we didn't want |
| 1589s | to introduce massive recipe bloat and we |
| 1591s | added these different rock types so the |
| 1594s | idea of Montague crafting is that you |
| 1595s | could then instead of recipes taking the |
| 1598s | specific items they would take tags so |
| 1600s | to make a stone chair it would require |
| 1602s | like hard stone which that would be |
| 1604s | basalt or something like that but it |
| 1606s | would exclude something like shale and |
| 1608s | that way we can you know keep the recipe |
| 1610s | list pretty small but still allow you to |
| 1614s | look have like these different resources |
| 1615s | that can be used for different things |
| 1616s | and kind of fleshing out the world that |
| 1618s | way would help a lot with cooking |
| 1620s | especially because if anyone's cooked a |
| 1621s | lot in the game they know that there's |
| 1622s | recipes they don't require like |
| 1624s | extremely specific things when they |
| 1626s | could be a little bit more generic we |
| 1627s | have like four different recipes for |
| 1629s | some of the salads like that's just sort |
| 1633s | of how it goes yeah and hopefully when |
| 1636s | that comes in |
| 1637s | we'll also be able to sort of |
| 1638s | differentiate like the tree types and |
| 1640s | stuff like really what the stone showed |
| 1642s | us is that we do need a system like this |
| 1644s | we want to kind of expand like this and |
| 1645s | we really do to kind of make the world |
| 1647s | more unique in different areas let's you |
| 1651s | have like you know luxury materials that |
| 1654s | will still work for the basic stuff but |
| 1656s | yeah create something really cool with |
| 1658s | them - for sure |
| 1659s | we should go chop down a big redwood |
| 1662s | you're gonna max scale it is a lot I can |
| 1666s | do with the chains on seconds but the |
| 1667s | chainsaw bow so we're not animal |
| 1672s | husbandry I know that's something else |
| 1673s | the site's pretty far in the future but |
| 1675s | that is something we're interested in |
| 1677s | having - yeah the whole life really we |
| 1679s | have a lot we want to add I just sort of |
| 1682s | that's in the trains yes |
| 1684s | update animal husbandry update will be |
| 1686s | two big content drops that we'll do at |
| 1689s | some point maybe post 1.0 we'll see but |
| 1693s | yeah that's another you know it's just |
| 1695s | so critical to human society and growth |
| 1699s | of civilization so something great to |
| 1701s | include so we mentioned bigger mining |
| 1704s | machines I don't know if we have any |
| 1708s | more plants and those sorts of things I |
| 1710s | always wanted to add that giant like |
| 1712s | grinders oh yeah like those stick huge |
| 1714s | like - like buckets on a wheel things |
| 1716s | are crazy looks like 100 200 meters high |
| 1719s | or something |
| 1721s | yeah that's something that'd be cool to |
| 1723s | add someone should mod that and yeah as |
| 1729s | far as linking directly to a stock pile |
| 1731s | you couldn't drop from like the student |
| 1734s | stuff directly stock pile |
| 1737s | red blood does things give so much wood |
| 1742s | yeah it's like yeah let's see more |
| 1752s | building shapes sort of into |
| 1754s | construction |
| 1755s | I know Qian really does is interested in |
| 1757s | working on builders we have a lot of |
| 1759s | like we're getting a lot of new |
| 1763s | materials basically like building |
| 1764s | materials especially with eight you saw |
| 1766s | are the International sorry Vegas the |
| 1768s | split really a more than stone into its |
| 1770s | different types which gives you a little |
| 1773s | bit more freedom in terms of look like |
| 1775s | the color if you're building we're sort |
| 1776s | of what it looks like |
| 1777s | despite them all being the same to you |
| 1780s | and I think as we sort of flesh out the |
| 1783s | world and we make these sort of |
| 1784s | different resources like the trees can |
| 1786s | have different resources and we can have |
| 1787s | like sort of what happened to rocks |
| 1789s | happen to trees where we have like |
| 1791s | different wood types and stuff like that |
| 1793s | where people sort of you can customize |
| 1796s | your building in that way we have the |
| 1800s | system for the hammer setup too so yeah |
| 1802s | it's pretty easy to add like new forms |
| 1804s | in there so we can just say add a ton of |
| 1806s | new content little things I want to do |
| 1807s | 49.0 is add like very stately looking |
| 1810s | buildings so we don't like marble |
| 1812s | columns and you know something is you |
| 1814s | can build something looks like a capital |
| 1815s | that has all your like government |
| 1817s | facilities in there I think that'll be a |
| 1820s | huge part of the game too |
| 1826s | so one of the lots of questions I saw |
| 1829s | was about shrinking animal populations |
| 1831s | which is that's something we're sort of |
| 1832s | trying to address right now in just it's |
| 1836s | basically an issue with world generation |
| 1838s | and how the game tries to predict what |
| 1840s | the animal relations should be and what |
| 1842s | they end up actually being in the game |
| 1844s | that's something that we were looking |
| 1847s | forward to fix but it's where you I did |
| 1852s | we it is an issue your animal population |
| 1856s | died out completely and if that's the |
| 1857s | case |
| 1859s | she's probably opened a bug but they |
| 1863s | will shrink because of because |
| 1865s | essentially the game thinks that there |
| 1867s | should be more but there can also |
| 1868s | putting a lot of new animations in for |
| 1870s | the next animal babies yeah baby your |
| 1874s | updates we're just gonna look a lot |
| 1875s | better in general they should behave |
| 1878s | better tunes let pets at some point |
| 1886s | yeah I mean we're pretty much right on |
| 1889s | time - yeah before we close up I think |
| 1894s | that's good so we got a blog coming out |
| 1896s | today so Friday watch for those we'll |
| 1898s | mail those out and yeah we got some some |
| 1903s | more big updates here to be coming soon |
| 1904s | next week they'll probably do a blog |
| 1906s | about the future of eco and where we |
| 1908s | want to take it and our whole like |
| 1910s | education angle - so where do that and |
| 1913s | 8.1 that's gonna be a big performance |
| 1916s | boost so yeah lots of cool stuff coming |
| 1921s | great thank you guys for tuning in |
| 1923s | yeah thanks for joining us see you next |
| 1926s | time and always message us on discord |
| 1929s | okay bye guys |