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| 520s | there we go now we have volume and so on |
| 523s | so forth welcome everyone to another |
| 526s | Friday stream here at strange Loop games |
| 529s | um and I'll be taking you through this |
| 532s | fantastic weekend we'll do a bit of |
| 534s | intermittent streaming but uh it'll be |
| 537s | fun um and we got some we got some paint |
| 540s | news as well so stay tuned |
| 544s | um yeah crazy time time flies um I you |
| 548s | know feels like it was the other day we |
| 551s | were doing last stream so things are |
| 553s | progressing quite |
| 555s | quickly uh see if we have everything |
| 557s | working I'm hoping everyone can hear me |
| 559s | and |
| 561s | shat where it's supposed to be there we |
| 567s | go and of course we have a Lively cat in |
| 570s | the background |
| 572s | who calm and quiet a few minutes ago and |
| 575s | then decided hey I want to I also want |
| 577s | to participate on the Stream So you |
| 579s | we'll see how much he is causing a |
| 582s | rockus as |
| 584s | usual |
| 585s | uh but yeah so this weekend we have a |
| 590s | special event server that popped up |
| 592s | which people probably noticed um which |
| 595s | is white sheeta and it is quite a number |
| 598s | of people that are diving in and |
| 601s | attempting sort of |
| 604s | speedrun time trials I guess you'd |
| 607s | almost call it um last one was pre1 so |
| 611s | it's going to be interesting to see how |
| 613s | much that deviates from uh the old time |
| 617s | which I think someone can probably dig |
| 620s | up um we did a whole whole stream on it |
| 623s | as well so |
| 624s | there's that is still on YouTube |
| 628s | Somewhere um um yeah and then in about |
| 633s | an |
| 634s | hourish uh we'll also have Toby join us |
| 638s | and we'll go over some of the painting |
| 641s | stuff uh and then once we are through |
| 644s | with that we'll probably pop back in on |
| 646s | the speedrun and have a little check |
| 649s | through and see how far they've gotten |
| 651s | and kind of where we're at and see how |
| 653s | long we |
| 654s | uh keep talking on and and kind |
| 658s | of run the stream um it's a bit |
| 661s | undecided on when it ends |
| 664s | so and apparently cats are wrecking |
| 668s | havoc in the bathroom so yeah ignore any |
| 671s | noise you hear in the background |
| 673s | just try your |
| 676s | best um and I'll I'll do the |
| 680s | same |
| 682s | uh see I have see in which order I have |
| 687s | camera stuff set up uh |
| 693s | that was not what I wanted I wanted |
| 695s | the yeah I wanted that one and then I |
| 697s | wanted that |
| 699s | one and then I wanted my camera can I |
| 703s | have my camera as |
| 705s | well |
| 707s | maybe uh but yeah we'll we'll throw in |
| 710s | right away here um and I'll figure out |
| 713s | how I get my camera back on the right |
| 715s | screen CU it decided to take a little |
| 718s | high this |
| 724s | why is it oh right I see what's going on |
| 727s | here maybe we want to put you there and |
| 730s | we want to put you |
| 733s | there everything works |
| 736s | until it just |
| 738s | doesn't there we go now we have some |
| 741s | things |
| 742s | rolling |
| 745s | um yeah |
| 754s | there and there let's have a look see |
| 757s | spawn in on on here somewhere and then |
| 759s | hopefully I'll have admin and everything |
| 761s | works and I can just go into fly |
| 770s | mode I just do |
| 774s | that and apparently decided I shouldn't |
| 776s | be able to fly |
| 781s | what on Earth just |
| 783s | happened |
| 785s | huh exciting and interesting let's just |
| 788s | do that so we don't have to worry about |
| 789s | it so I'm not going to participate in it |
| 791s | as usual I'm just going to kind of see |
| 794s | what people are |
| 795s | doing try to decipher a little bit what |
| 797s | they're doing um and talk about balance |
| 800s | in some of the aspects where things are |
| 803s | a little bit lackluster or things just |
| 806s | haven't |
| 807s | gotten um expanded |
| 810s | enough in terms of |
| 813s | professions yeah ever first fly command |
| 815s | preserver never really |
| 817s | works um it's a bit peculiar and why am |
| 820s | I so super |
| 823s | bright because of the |
| 825s | snow probably yeah it it's being it's |
| 829s | being super super bright can I just |
| 832s | reduce that |
| 836s | slightly like a diamond |
| 843s | uh but yes 10.3 is progressing quite |
| 846s | nicely PE people are hopefully stoked |
| 850s | for some of the things that are coming |
| 851s | in there |
| 853s | um we |
| 856s | are probably not going to see explosives |
| 859s | in it but it is still something we're |
| 862s | working on and |
| 864s | it'll be pushed out to |
| 868s | 10.4 um |
| 870s | and it's mainly due to time constraints |
| 872s | and we we're kind of trying to wrap up |
| 874s | all the major features that we're |
| 876s | working on for it and |
| 879s | uh trying to just you know get it up |
| 883s | wrapped um and as complete as quickly as |
| 885s | we can and why |
| 887s | might GMS stop me ninja why why |
| 891s | why we should be doing SL record because |
| 895s | then we don't have to worry about the |
| 897s | the stuttery staticy thing |
| 901s | that's what we should be doing there we |
| 910s | go uh hello guy um yeah so it is on |
| 915s | white Shea which is the speedrun server |
| 917s | that is up during this |
| 920s | weekend so this is you know |
| 926s | live live players struggling away trying |
| 929s | to get up and destroy the the uh the |
| 932s | meteor and lasers going as quickly as |
| 935s | they can in a somewhat organized |
| 949s | Manner and going out of maybe record was |
| 953s | was a great great thing to kind |
| 955s | of go over we're getting some some icky |
| 960s | chunk chunk loading |
| 965s | lag so we've got some |
| 968s | speedy speedy focus on getting that |
| 972s | initial initial burst of hun |
| 977s | [Music] |
| 981s | logs the busy worker Beast |
| 984s | with masterminds in control of |
| 988s | General yeah the |
| 994s | the the cat is going |
| 1006s | nuts yeah so our cats are very very |
| 1011s | talkative um they really like to |
| 1014s | emphasize when they just want attention |
| 1017s | when they want food when they want to go |
| 1019s | in the litter box |
| 1022s | and they are excessively um attention |
| 1026s | seeking sometimes and apparently tonight |
| 1029s | is going to be one of those |
| 1034s | things there we go see went completely |
| 1037s | silent when picked up it's like I am |
| 1040s | content now we're |
| 1047s | good hey I see Mike is is with us on |
| 1051s | YouTube |
| 1054s | um nice to see you hope you're feeling |
| 1057s | all |
| 1058s | right uh and Satsuki yeah they got a |
| 1062s | pretty decent sized um Jungle right next |
| 1065s | to Desert so that should hopefully be uh |
| 1069s | allowing them some pretty pretty fast |
| 1071s | expansion early |
| 1072s | on do |
| 1080s | talk about being a very uncooperative |
| 1082s | cat |
| 1086s | here making it slightly uh slightly hard |
| 1090s | to control all of |
| 1097s | this uh with a server as fast as this is |
| 1100s | there any point planting trees and crops |
| 1102s | no not really uh because I think if I |
| 1105s | remember hearing right the general goal |
| 1108s | is to complete it within 72 |
| 1111s | hours and the shortest tree growth is |
| 1116s | Palm |
| 1119s | on |
| 1120s | o 120 96 hours 120 |
| 1125s | hours I think so yeah no planting trees |
| 1128s | would just be a waste of |
| 1129s | time um oh yeah they want to finish |
| 1131s | below 24 |
| 1133s | hours oh meteor 72 yeah thank you |
| 1138s | Dennis uh yeah so it's going to be it's |
| 1141s | going to be one super intense run I'm |
| 1144s | I'm curious about how they're going to |
| 1146s | deal with certain constraints like flags |
| 1148s | for lumber but I'm assuming that no |
| 1150s | one's going to be building anything out |
| 1151s | of Lumber in particular just for the |
| 1154s | actual progression |
| 1159s | material but it is very very busy bees |
| 1162s | here in the uh devastating rainforest |
| 1166s | compartment |
| 1171s | he got very very quiet and calm as soon |
| 1173s | as I picked him |
| 1177s | up this is some Santi social no art no |
| 1180s | no ideals just |
| 1187s | survival no in in practicality though um |
| 1190s | speedruns are great for a lot of reasons |
| 1195s | um not at least in in terms of just |
| 1199s | getting good kind of balanced feedback |
| 1201s | and seeing which part is going very very |
| 1205s | quickly versus which part might be way |
| 1207s | too |
| 1208s | slow |
| 1210s | um and being able to properly kind of |
| 1213s | gauge them apart and seeing how things |
| 1215s | progress in a very sped up manner is |
| 1219s | uh quite nice um for analyzing |
| 1226s | that the |
| 1234s | and there goes the next Sab poor jungle |
| 1237s | just falling apart in |
| 1240s | pieces |
| 1243s | um but yeah so |
| 1247s | for what do we want to touch on a little |
| 1250s | bit um can do |
| 1253s | some well people even bother with roads |
| 1255s | or cars and so on I think they might |
| 1257s | they might do I think they had they had |
| 1260s | some tactic of doing like one or two |
| 1262s | vehicles um for the skid steer to just |
| 1265s | really quickly push up the last stuff |
| 1267s | but it's hard to |
| 1271s | gauge oh that P one um it's hard to |
| 1275s | gauge whether or not it would actually |
| 1278s | be beneficial in terms of getting that |
| 1280s | and reach goal because it is something |
| 1283s | that we also want to touch on and kind |
| 1286s | of uh change out and improve quite a bit |
| 1289s | in terms of like reach going from |
| 1291s | getting to Industry getting that leveled |
| 1293s | up and and you kind of reach end game |
| 1297s | um you've generally accumulated all the |
| 1300s | necessary steps to do the end game goal |
| 1304s | by just getting to end game because |
| 1307s | you're already stockpiling gold you're |
| 1308s | already stockpiling Xyz materials that |
| 1311s | are necessary and the only thing |
| 1313s | depending on the difficulty setting that |
| 1315s | is holding you back is the XP grind up |
| 1318s | to |
| 1320s | um peing out the professions for the |
| 1324s | modules |
| 1330s | P cats and boxes they go well |
| 1337s | together we get some more is it just |
| 1340s | people in the desert here |
| 1346s | or do we |
| 1351s | can |
| 1352s | we there we |
| 1354s | go exit fly mode for a bit see how the |
| 1357s | map is |
| 1358s | looking oh I turned very very bright on |
| 1361s | that um so yeah we've got one big |
| 1365s | cluster of |
| 1367s | grassland and we got the wetlands out on |
| 1369s | a separate Island and if we are looking |
| 1371s | over |
| 1373s | on uh biomes deep ocean so all the |
| 1378s | islands here are |
| 1380s | separated by uh boat necessity to deal |
| 1383s | with also the mountain turned absolutely |
| 1392s | brilliant |
| 1393s | uh yeah this what is the map size pretty |
| 1398s | sure that was should in |
| 1406s | there yeah |
| 1412s | the amount of rivers that EST yeah the |
| 1414s | yeah the the hilltop and Mountain Side |
| 1416s | turned out absolutely crazy and then you |
| 1418s | have a whole bunch of whole bunch of uh |
| 1420s | lakes and rivers in another jungle |
| 1425s | grassland combo here turned into a quite |
| 1428s | nice map they're running |
| 1436s | on oh yeah it's a 2.56 kilometer thank |
| 1440s | you |
| 1443s | ooh that is |
| 1445s | interesting that's some sneaky resource |
| 1447s | reveal then if it's the next white tiger |
| 1457s | map yeah I'm sorry it's the U the |
| 1460s | brightness in the map it gets a little |
| 1463s | bit |
| 1464s | intense see how it it's just crazy |
| 1471s | I zoom in it gets |
| 1472s | a yeah desert desert yellow or forest |
| 1479s | green how many people are we on right |
| 1483s | now |
| 1487s | uh players actually we can |
| 1491s | do don't want to do that |
| 1503s | manage yeah so there's there's quite |
| 1508s | a quite a decent size |
| 1511s | of players on here that's attempting |
| 1515s | this this is also very very |
| 1518s | bright probably need to reduce the |
| 1520s | brightness of the monitor slightly |
| 1532s | uh isn't the Jungle Desert combo kind of |
| 1534s | op well like when it comes to speedr |
| 1537s | running in general as if you're looking |
| 1539s | at like speed running as a theme of like |
| 1544s | across the board be it Mario or you know |
| 1547s | Victoria |
| 1549s | or I don't know Tetris whichever you |
| 1552s | know game you're kind of going for |
| 1555s | um they generally tend to rotate the |
| 1558s | maps until they get a map that they can |
| 1560s | do it really really quickly on because |
| 1562s | the map restrictions is not |
| 1565s | necessarily um relative to the speedrun |
| 1569s | attempt desert Jung desert jungle |
| 1572s | Wetlands is so op and hilarious though |
| 1576s | yeah yeah you can do a lot with |
| 1579s | that not necessarily just for speedrun |
| 1582s | but um on its |
| 1586s | whole and it you know |
| 1590s | what do you think because right right |
| 1591s | now the the general biosphere is |
| 1594s | generated to kind of keep biomes |
| 1597s | slightly separate would it be something |
| 1599s | that would be interesting to be able to |
| 1602s | just toggle |
| 1604s | and |
| 1606s | um maybe have that on the on like the |
| 1609s | editor side of things like the the |
| 1611s | server DUI or being able to specify |
| 1613s | which which can adjac in each |
| 1616s | border um Andor toggle you know specific |
| 1621s | biome |
| 1622s | Islands CU I've been looking into |
| 1626s | um poking my nose into the um world |
| 1630s | generator for a while and there are a |
| 1634s | few things and ideas that I have that |
| 1636s | I'd want to do to |
| 1640s | tackle but I also don't want to kind of |
| 1642s | over extend and do a whole bunch of |
| 1645s | things that no one is generally |
| 1649s | um not necessarily interested |
| 1662s | in just think that those three hot |
| 1664s | biomes should stick together more and |
| 1666s | the three cold biomes have their own |
| 1667s | strength equalize its resource |
| 1672s | demands yeah in terms of just warm |
| 1676s | Forest |
| 1679s | it's kind of get it's kind of a |
| 1682s | a Hot Pocket thing because you've got |
| 1685s | the desert that's really hot and then |
| 1686s | you got the forest or the jungle |
| 1691s | um that is also really hot and then you |
| 1694s | got Wetlands that you just add the |
| 1696s | moisture to it but it's still in like |
| 1698s | the hot biome |
| 1701s | realm and if you suddenly |
| 1704s | have um desert jungle wetlands |
| 1709s | warm Forest next to each other it it |
| 1711s | turns into kind of a behemoth biome |
| 1722s | sere yeah I think it it it might be an |
| 1727s | interesting interesting thing to kind of |
| 1729s | tackle because as I said it generally |
| 1733s | more of a scientific approach to which |
| 1736s | biomes are |
| 1739s | generally closer to each other in real |
| 1742s | world |
| 1747s | equivalent |
| 1750s | uh yeah that that that is a good point |
| 1753s | um so right now demand for cold |
| 1755s | resources are are generally low |
| 1757s | especially copper doesn't allow for cold |
| 1763s | starts also feed the kitty the problem |
| 1765s | isn't feeding her |
| 1774s | um she |
| 1776s | um lost her |
| 1781s | toy |
| 1788s | do uh maybe a copper age before iron |
| 1794s | um it's |
| 1797s | like it's it's something that we've |
| 1799s | talked |
| 1800s | about um in terms of having like some |
| 1803s | type of alloy copper copper in of itself |
| 1806s | is kind of weird um but if you're |
| 1809s | looking at something like an alloy like |
| 1811s | bronze that would be durable enough to |
| 1814s | make sense um it would need to introduce |
| 1819s | tin and then you'd need to deal with two |
| 1821s | types of |
| 1822s | metals rather than just kind of getting |
| 1825s | past it quickly and then diving into |
| 1827s | just a single metal type |
| 1830s | which would be |
| 1832s | superior so it it's |
| 1835s | that kind of weird time shift |
| 1839s | of in which span |
| 1842s | of um in which aerial span are we |
| 1846s | looking at like how long our players |
| 1847s | going to be sticking in you know the |
| 1850s | Stone Age how long our player going to |
| 1851s | take until they transition into um a |
| 1854s | mechanical |
| 1855s | era and having a good bridge in between |
| 1858s | them to kind of transition you get |
| 1860s | upgrades |
| 1863s | um and upgrades kind of need to make |
| 1866s | sense across all the professions which |
| 1867s | they're not at the moment there are a |
| 1869s | few professions that are lacking midgame |
| 1871s | improvements there are a few professions |
| 1873s | that are lacking late game improvements |
| 1876s | um and a lot of those is is things that |
| 1877s | we have stuff getting ready and working |
| 1884s | on um but it's you know it's a journey |
| 1887s | it takes time |
| 1898s | time tin and copper can be made into two |
| 1902s | things |
| 1906s | um sort of but also not really but yeah |
| 1911s | I |
| 1912s | I uh yeah brass is brass is znc not tin |
| 1924s | um early gay Metals though could still |
| 1925s | be utilized though in smaller amounts |
| 1927s | like circuitry needing lead tin kind of |
| 1929s | thing oh yeah um no we have we have some |
| 1933s | ideas to generally add more more |
| 1935s | resources and |
| 1936s | more |
| 1938s | um materials in the ground which is why |
| 1941s | the mountain was remade in uh like the |
| 1946s | the cold biosphere was remade quite |
| 1948s | significantly in |
| 1950s | terraforming um or geology types as we |
| 1956s | cut down a lot of the metals and that's |
| 1957s | to make room to to be able to test a lot |
| 1960s | of these things um while still having |
| 1963s | somewhat pure data |
| 1965s | on um making sure that there's still |
| 1968s | enough materials of that type to |
| 1971s | properly be able to kind of dig |
| 1975s | and um not be super grinding but still |
| 1979s | require enough effort and time to kind |
| 1981s | of get stuff properly going and then |
| 1984s | getting into an upgrade |
| 1987s | phase uh right now the dwarfs don't feel |
| 1989s | very incent incentivized to dig into |
| 1992s | that Cold |
| 1995s | Mountain they're oddly attracted to the |
| 1997s | desert because of the iron yes we have |
| 1999s | some we have some resource shifts that |
| 2001s | we want to do |
| 2002s | and once we do add more things um in the |
| 2006s | ground it is quite possible that will |
| 2008s | start spreading out iron a bit more and |
| 2011s | make it a little bit easier across the |
| 2013s | board because that's kind of your |
| 2014s | entryway into metal |
| 2016s | working um so that should |
| 2019s | be sort of |
| 2021s | doable across the globe at the same time |
| 2025s | we still want to keep the desert at as |
| 2028s | kind of a main iron |
| 2031s | Source um but we got some ideas to kind |
| 2035s | of alleviate the pain around that |
| 2041s | I'm hearing a lot of fishing in the |
| 2042s | background |
| 2045s | here a catastrophe |
| 2051s | fishing we got the the fishing crew |
| 2053s | dealing with early food crisises I guess |
| 2078s | I remember correctly also interesting I |
| 2080s | managed to I managed to stay in record |
| 2083s | camera while free |
| 2085s | flying don't know how that happened but |
| 2089s | I'll take |
| 2096s | it uh sea we find plenty of iron de |
| 2100s | grass PL yeah there's iron still has a |
| 2103s | few other spawns um Coastal strips in |
| 2107s | particular but also sporadically in the |
| 2110s | grassland um but unlike the desert where |
| 2113s | it's guaranteed to be certain size spots |
| 2116s | and and all over |
| 2119s | um there's still once you do find some |
| 2123s | pockets in the grassland they're still |
| 2124s | pretty substantial pockets of iron |
| 2136s | someone shooting bow at me save those |
| 2138s | arrows for the animals you need them for |
| 2140s | the |
| 2148s | meat yeah I should pop invisibility just |
| 2151s | to kind |
| 2152s | of remove it |
| 2155s | but they really do like to |
| 2159s | cause |
| 2161s | Ruckus um different differentiating clay |
| 2164s | or even soil types could be interesting |
| 2165s | to Vintage store is quite interested in |
| 2167s | that aspect though it does get to the |
| 2169s | point of too much selection for not for |
| 2172s | no necessary benefit other than it being |
| 2174s | in World |
| 2175s | gen |
| 2177s | um it it is like we we we do have that |
| 2181s | and apply it but it's not actually |
| 2184s | unique resources for that simplification |
| 2188s | kind of thing so if you're looking when |
| 2192s | you're looking through like the world |
| 2193s | gen file for example um you'll see that |
| 2196s | it it does |
| 2199s | specify um like Rocky like rocky soil um |
| 2205s | and so on and that is because in each |
| 2208s | biome you do have a different type of |
| 2211s | ground |
| 2212s | material um based on the biome |
| 2215s | temperatures and and so on so |
| 2222s | um so it you know we could make them |
| 2225s | into unique materials and then just have |
| 2227s | tag apply to the different types and |
| 2230s | then be able to utilize them in |
| 2232s | different recipes if we wanted |
| 2235s | to um because we we have the textures |
| 2238s | and everything for it it's just at the |
| 2240s | moment it's |
| 2243s | just |
| 2245s | um just that quality of life like every |
| 2248s | you know all the different soil types |
| 2249s | are are classified and transformed into |
| 2252s | dirt when you pick them up um which is |
| 2255s | just sort of a a casualization of the |
| 2266s | biomaterial uh I start in swamp Forest |
| 2269s | will be running out of dirt if I start |
| 2270s | building with dirt blocks later |
| 2271s | fertilizer it's all that I have to |
| 2273s | import dirt from the desert um the dirt |
| 2277s | the General dirt chain chain on |
| 2280s | fertilizers also something that |
| 2283s | we um we want to kind of break up as |
| 2286s | well so that's probably going to be |
| 2287s | changed in the |
| 2289s | future |
| 2292s | um with compost blocks and the dirt kind |
| 2297s | of combo that's a bit wonky um so the |
| 2301s | general idea is that you you take |
| 2303s | compost and you you turn compost into |
| 2306s | dirt slash |
| 2308s | um turn stuff into compost without |
| 2310s | actually adding the dirt to make it into |
| 2312s | a fertilizer but more of a a |
| 2315s | general uh refinement |
| 2318s | process um and we have some World |
| 2321s | objects |
| 2323s | um kind of scratched down to do |
| 2327s | that um so it'll be |
| 2331s | um it'll be a bit like dirt |
| 2336s | being like the off produced material |
| 2339s | when you're using manufacturing and |
| 2341s | dealing with fertilizer in some |
| 2343s | capacity but we also want dirt to be |
| 2348s | consumed um in some of |
| 2352s | it uh is the relationship between biome |
| 2354s | and geology a design decision or just |
| 2356s | easier to implement uh oh it it's it's a |
| 2358s | purely designed decision it it's a |
| 2361s | purely geographical design decision um |
| 2364s | way early in during eos's development |
| 2367s | and I haven't really |
| 2369s | I haven't really poked too much into |
| 2372s | changing that |
| 2374s | because um outside of a few Oddities |
| 2378s | with World gen every now and then |
| 2382s | um I like the idea notion of it but you |
| 2385s | know the longer we've been running it |
| 2388s | and the more we've been kind of looking |
| 2391s | at |
| 2391s | geographical balance wise in terms of |
| 2394s | which biome is feeding what biome and |
| 2395s | where you're pulling resources for and |
| 2397s | which part of the game playay Loop um |
| 2400s | from start to finish you get the |
| 2403s | different materials from different |
| 2404s | sources and um you know applying a heat |
| 2407s | map on it you can see that the desert is |
| 2410s | just as hot as the freaking temperature |
| 2412s | range on it |
| 2414s | um with a fraction into the mountain |
| 2417s | eventually way way |
| 2419s | later um some of the copper changes in |
| 2422s | mid |
| 2423s | 9.45 6 somewhere um alleviate did that |
| 2428s | quite a bit so iron is or copper gets |
| 2431s | more use mid |
| 2433s | game um but it's still nowhere |
| 2436s | near where like where we want it um so |
| 2440s | there's still a lot of Polish to do |
| 2442s | around it but um as for implementation |
| 2445s | of the general geographical |
| 2448s | stuff it's more of a it's it's |
| 2450s | complicated to pull it out to |
| 2453s | be easier to edit from the user end |
| 2459s | uh I mean three out of five tool sets |
| 2461s | use iron |
| 2464s | yeah that is correct |
| 2469s | um in some capacity one or the other um |
| 2473s | it's either iron or steel which is Iron |
| 2477s | by |
| 2481s | process want much golden tools oh the |
| 2484s | the the golden tools are reserved for |
| 2486s | Dev tools |
| 2488s | so that that is on the creative side um |
| 2490s | if you haven't noticed it I don't know |
| 2494s | which which and when Mike threw it in |
| 2497s | but the later versions the dev tool |
| 2501s | Hammer um should have a golden skin on |
| 2505s | it and we'll also see that later when |
| 2508s | Toby Pops in as well that the uh the |
| 2510s | paint Dev tool also have a golden skin |
| 2512s | on it |
| 2520s | to be fair for for real life though iron |
| 2522s | is used for so much gold tools should be |
| 2527s | achievement um oh yeah there there |
| 2530s | is uh gold could definitely have more |
| 2533s | use for um for housing Damascus steel |
| 2535s | tools Damascus steel is |
| 2538s | pretty |
| 2543s | um that would be a nice nice view on |
| 2546s | things |
| 2549s | um but yeah gold gold as example for |
| 2551s | luxury items for housing yeah I've been |
| 2553s | I've been eyeballing that for a bit like |
| 2556s | introducing more copper and gold as |
| 2558s | general resources for housing and |
| 2563s | Furniture we are few but we are |
| 2566s | good hello gaming Engineers hope you |
| 2569s | hope you are all all right this evening |
| 2573s | welcome to the Stream |
| 2578s | gold frame blocks oh boy well you've got |
| 2582s | you got gold frames for the culture |
| 2583s | stuff and you got copper frames but it's |
| 2586s | definitely a venue to do goldlined roof |
| 2589s | tiles oh |
| 2592s | boy um but yeah know there there is |
| 2594s | there's definitely a venue for things |
| 2596s | like more uh especially for for lighting |
| 2599s | mount for example |
| 2602s | um like candles lights um mounting |
| 2608s | things in general |
| 2611s | um and housing points are going to get a |
| 2614s | bit of a a doover slash larger change in |
| 2619s | terms of what what gives how much |
| 2623s | pointwise so I'm presuming this is going |
| 2625s | to be the main cooking area by the |
| 2627s | amount of campfires that gets popped |
| 2635s | down quarter height low rise roofs with |
| 2638s | Corner |
| 2639s | inside uh not sure I follow you there |
| 2643s | Satsuki you're talking about having like |
| 2645s | a thinner roof |
| 2651s | slab or what are we talking |
| 2655s | about cuz I'm I'm presuming you're |
| 2658s | talking about a block form |
| 2670s | we have there |
| 2676s | let's there we |
| 2682s | go where is that |
| 2692s | thing so much painting |
| 2699s | so much painting so much painting um |
| 2702s | couldn't find it looking for uh looking |
| 2706s | for some detailed stuff |
| 2709s | but couldn't really find what I was |
| 2711s | looking for oh well let's pull up the |
| 2714s | chat there |
| 2715s | again can we have a look at how the |
| 2717s | miner camp and wood Camp are going uh |
| 2719s | absolutely we've got logging Camp over |
| 2722s | there I'm |
| 2724s | presuming uh we can fly |
| 2729s | Sho scoot ourselves over |
| 2735s | here and here we can also see some wild |
| 2738s | iron splotches on the surface which |
| 2742s | hopefully helps people navigate a bit |
| 2745s | into the realm where they |
| 2748s | are presuming we'll have a logging Camp |
| 2751s | up |
| 2754s | ahead here we go |
| 2760s | oh |
| 2774s | yeah it's a lot more uh a lot more |
| 2777s | spread out |
| 2780s | here I'd presume that we'd see more |
| 2783s | like super clean picking and everything |
| 2787s | just |
| 2788s | absolutely |
| 2792s | destroyed but things are Sur |
| 2794s | surprisingly uh |
| 2803s | standing uh Hey Pondo uh Have You |
| 2807s | released any Target dates for 1.0 |
| 2810s | no no the only the only General mention |
| 2813s | of it is in the blog post so that is the |
| 2816s | information that's Avil aailable at the |
| 2817s | moment |
| 2820s | um we'll |
| 2822s | have dates |
| 2824s | more available when |
| 2828s | uh when we have them available to |
| 2831s | release to |
| 2833s | you um will mod support SL interface |
| 2836s | look the same um not sure what you mean |
| 2840s | about |
| 2842s | interface but |
| 2844s | um we'll try to have as much mods mods |
| 2847s | support as we |
| 2849s | can |
| 2855s | uh just I'm I'm just going to ignore |
| 2857s | that sack just see no see no evil here |
| 2861s | no evil |
| 2867s | right uh no the M the main focus |
| 2873s | on the main focus for the uh the content |
| 2877s | related to the 1.0 thing is most likely |
| 2880s | going to be animal |
| 2881s | husbandry um oh meaning the Cs files |
| 2884s | being easily access and the changes |
| 2886s | being server side only um yeah there's |
| 2888s | there's not going to be any client side |
| 2891s | modding um up to 1.0 at |
| 2894s | least um if it happens after that we'll |
| 2898s | see where we are and and kind of |
| 2901s | what what size of a scope that would be |
| 2905s | to introduce it it also requires a |
| 2907s | substantial amount of |
| 2909s | security um that wouldn't be necessary |
| 2912s | prior to |
| 2914s | that um so that it it's a pretty pretty |
| 2918s | big task um as for the Cs files we'll |
| 2921s | see um they might |
| 2924s | stay depends a little bit on uh if we |
| 2928s | determine that it's there are a bit more |
| 2930s | slick ways to deal with it but |
| 2935s | uh um |
| 2938s | yeah there are some ideas surrounding |
| 2942s | it um can we get the walls to use for |
| 2945s | the roof so we can cleanly cut off the |
| 2947s | roof with it not matching the size of |
| 2950s | the house I'm so confused of |
| 2957s | that can we get the walls to use for the |
| 2960s | roof so we can cleanly cut off the roof |
| 2962s | with it not matching the size of the |
| 2965s | house so it can go in the house a bit |
| 2970s | um you mean like having having |
| 2974s | it not extend out from the house |
| 2979s | but just like flat in with |
| 2986s | it |
| 2990s | um I mean |
| 2992s | possibly but that would be um I like a |
| 2996s | thin |
| 2999s | slat uh oh yeah you're you're thinking |
| 3003s | similar to the um a block form similar |
| 3006s | to the bricks with its um the the the |
| 3011s | thin |
| 3015s | floor think Prine will need needs to be |
| 3018s | introduced with the dock |
| 3019s | blocks um yeah there there's block forms |
| 3024s | in general is uh is is kind of a |
| 3026s | constant |
| 3028s | ongoing |
| 3031s | uh going thing um you know if you wanna |
| 3034s | if you want to pitch questions regarding |
| 3036s | block forms |
| 3038s | and wanting XYZ we have a we have a |
| 3042s | super person to uh poke for that that's |
| 3046s | coming on here in uh in a |
| 3049s | while since Toby will pop his head in to |
| 3053s | uh do some painting Show and |
| 3055s | Tell um and he's also the leader of the |
| 3058s | art team so he's the one that makes a |
| 3061s | lot of the decisions regarding which |
| 3063s | forms which blocks gets and in what |
| 3067s | order um granted granted when they have |
| 3070s | time and capacity to do |
| 3072s | them um do you have or do you plan to |
| 3077s | add power converters to use the water |
| 3079s | wheels as energy |
| 3081s | generators probably not um we have some |
| 3085s | ideas on doing |
| 3088s | a bit of the |
| 3090s | opposite while I do want water related |
| 3094s | electrical generation for stuff like Dam |
| 3097s | building and and whatnot like having |
| 3100s | some sort of hydrop |
| 3102s | power uh but if it's going to be the |
| 3104s | initial water wheels that's kind of just |
| 3106s | get like a an AC converter or a |
| 3109s | generator uh probably not it'll most |
| 3113s | likely be a separate type of water |
| 3116s | interaction |
| 3118s | object um that said we do have some |
| 3121s | ideas for moving you off mechanical |
| 3125s | Power as a requirement later on through |
| 3127s | this Tech |
| 3132s | stages um aren't the earliest power |
| 3135s | generators based off mechanical |
| 3137s | infrastructure at least as primitive |
| 3138s | forms of getting power |
| 3142s | um I mean sort of yeah um if you're |
| 3145s | looking at like the the the earliest |
| 3150s | easiest um electrical power in general |
| 3154s | would be kind of a steam turbine |
| 3157s | probably |
| 3159s | um because you're you're using heat as a |
| 3165s | source and then shoving it through a |
| 3168s | turbine which spins and generates |
| 3170s | power potato power just just enough |
| 3173s | Terror Roots maybe we can squeeze out |
| 3176s | some ampage out of them just just have |
| 3178s | enough |
| 3183s | terrores atmospheric engine steam and |
| 3185s | coal |
| 3186s | yep a steam engine is still mechanical |
| 3189s | Power converting to |
| 3190s | Electric |
| 3194s | um yeah like I said it |
| 3198s | it it poses some interesting issues but |
| 3202s | it's less of an |
| 3203s | issue in the future so |
| 3207s | 10.3 is going to introduce General |
| 3209s | garbage like in in terms of not General |
| 3212s | garbage sorry um general maintenance |
| 3216s | requirement which will |
| 3218s | generate garbage slash waste products |
| 3223s | so the water wheel for example or the |
| 3227s | windmill is not going to be completely |
| 3229s | 100% free power as they are |
| 3233s | now because they will have a |
| 3235s | maintainable part part in them that will |
| 3239s | gradually wear down and you'll have to |
| 3241s | replace |
| 3243s | it |
| 3245s | um |
| 3247s | and |
| 3251s | uh I know you spoken about new changes |
| 3253s | coming to electricity in the game but |
| 3255s | will these new changes allow us to |
| 3256s | choose which crafting benches can access |
| 3258s | it um that's a separate power thing but |
| 3262s | yes the the general idea is to allow you |
| 3265s | to have more |
| 3267s | control over what's in in terms of |
| 3270s | what's consuming SL producing who can |
| 3273s | access it and |
| 3275s | where |
| 3277s | um but that's part of a kind of a bigger |
| 3280s | utility |
| 3282s | update that we have some uh we have some |
| 3285s | plans |
| 3287s | for if it makes it before 1.0 I don't |
| 3291s | want to promise |
| 3293s | that um we definitely want to try to get |
| 3296s | in in there because we feel that it |
| 3298s | would be an important |
| 3301s | part |
| 3302s | um of the |
| 3305s | industrialization um and giving you that |
| 3307s | kind of legal control and um Regional |
| 3311s | control over you know power generation |
| 3313s | and and power plants and and so on um so |
| 3316s | there's definitely a goal to try to get |
| 3319s | that in but we're also under some |
| 3323s | pretty pretty uh |
| 3327s | limited time constraints |
| 3330s | to do all the general core features that |
| 3333s | we wanted to have done by |
| 3336s | 1.0 um so we're you know trying to keep |
| 3338s | the scope somewhat realistic in what |
| 3340s | we'll actually be able to do before then |
| 3342s | and what we can't and what we'll have to |
| 3344s | come after um as once 1.0 is |
| 3348s | released the general goal is just you |
| 3350s | know keep growing Eco keep adding things |
| 3352s | to it |
| 3354s | um keep expanding on it and just |
| 3357s | improving updating |
| 3359s | patching um fixing polishing and the |
| 3362s | whole the whole |
| 3366s | shebang how are we looking everyone's |
| 3368s | kind |
| 3369s | of I thought the other place was a farm |
| 3372s | SL cooking area but uh turns out we get |
| 3377s | a whole bunch of campfires here as well |
| 3379s | so I wonder if these are actually |
| 3380s | turning it turning all the random pulp |
| 3383s | that they're getting into um mortar |
| 3391s | could be interesting one town being |
| 3392s | super into power generation basically |
| 3394s | just selling its power generation |
| 3395s | capacity to the other town over oh yeah |
| 3398s | it there's there's a ton |
| 3401s | of um gamep playay implementation and so |
| 3405s | on um I thought farming was kind of |
| 3408s | useless here um there are there are |
| 3411s | certain things that you do need to farm |
| 3414s | regardless of |
| 3417s | what you really want but the size of the |
| 3419s | world might allow them to skip |
| 3423s | that it really boils down to how much of |
| 3426s | how much spreadsheet math they've done |
| 3428s | on exactly how much units that have |
| 3430s | those oil kind of |
| 3432s | things um cost |
| 3436s | relations so you know and I mainly |
| 3440s | specul speculating on a lot of these |
| 3445s | things um do you you have any plans |
| 3447s | ideas for generating income after 1.0 um |
| 3450s | there are some ideas floating around and |
| 3452s | there are some things that are revolving |
| 3455s | and we'll |
| 3456s | do it's it will be a topic on a pre |
| 3462s | 10.3 uh Dev stream I think well well |
| 3466s | there it's a few uh it's a few subjects |
| 3469s | in there that I'll uh grab John and have |
| 3472s | him on stream as well to talk |
| 3474s | about uh so that's something to look |
| 3476s | forward to if you're |
| 3485s | interested look at that beautiful Forest |
| 3487s | just |
| 3489s | Vanishing imagine in 10 hours this is |
| 3491s | just going to be a desolate |
| 3492s | Wasteland not a tree ins sight |
| 3507s | coming along here um do we have a mining |
| 3510s | encampment we have a little mining |
| 3515s | encampment see some sand being collected |
| 3526s | there um any plans to add AI workers you |
| 3529s | can hire to reduce monotonous tasks um |
| 3534s | no I know there's there's |
| 3537s | definitely a lot of people that are |
| 3539s | interested in having that um in some way |
| 3543s | or capacity in terms of you know from |
| 3545s | the player side |
| 3547s | but |
| 3550s | um there's no plans to do that um simply |
| 3554s | because of the general scope of the |
| 3557s | design for Eco as well as the vision is |
| 3560s | it's focused |
| 3562s | on um General player interactions and |
| 3566s | and player player bound economy and if |
| 3569s | you start introducing |
| 3572s | AIS um the Eco developers go on the |
| 3576s | human superiority Road all human labor |
| 3580s | um no so the the general idea is all |
| 3584s | professions um builds into |
| 3588s | upgrades regardless of this like bound |
| 3592s | to the progression of the server which |
| 3594s | at the moment it |
| 3597s | um it's kind of limited for some |
| 3599s | professions like a lot of the early |
| 3601s | introduction ones um like Milling |
| 3603s | carpentry logging and so |
| 3605s | on um versus Mining and and and the |
| 3609s | industrial route that gets a lot of cool |
| 3611s | Machinery that can reduce that |
| 3612s | significantly way late |
| 3614s | game uh but it's definitely something |
| 3617s | that we're looking at Bridging the Gap |
| 3619s | for a lot of them um Farmers road |
| 3623s | builders terraforming in general is |
| 3625s | hopefully going to be slightly |
| 3627s | easier |
| 3630s | um as we have some uh some midgame plans |
| 3635s | to add a um an attachment to the steam |
| 3639s | tractor so you |
| 3640s | can move some dirt around |
| 3645s | essentially um you won't be able to |
| 3646s | break rocks with it but you can use it |
| 3649s | to |
| 3650s | uh terraform and and help you mine quite |
| 3654s | a bit prior to getting levels up and |
| 3657s | the kind of the late game |
| 3660s | stuff um any updates to the crafting |
| 3662s | material for Adobe um I have an |
| 3665s | experimental thing going on but it's |
| 3666s | it's generally it's generally in that |
| 3669s | realm of dirt slash |
| 3672s | clay um one or the other probably |
| 3676s | potentially both |
| 3679s | um and then plant fiber and raw |
| 3684s | wood like generally non processed |
| 3687s | material um which will then tie into the |
| 3689s | tutorial a bit better |
| 3692s | in um teaching people about where to |
| 3695s | find new |
| 3696s | professions why am I getting a |
| 3698s | disconnect there we go just some Network |
| 3705s | lag |
| 3709s | um where was |
| 3711s | I Adobe |
| 3717s | uh any thoughts on expanding out of that |
| 3718s | kind of era wle do for example I mean w |
| 3721s | and do would like it's adjacent it's |
| 3724s | it's kind of the grassland version of |
| 3727s | it |
| 3729s | um if you |
| 3731s | will um so if we you know if you |
| 3735s | see a weird variation SL different types |
| 3738s | of adobe |
| 3740s | maybe |
| 3743s | um but it's also that |
| 3747s | it's also leaning into that whole notion |
| 3750s | of how long are you trying to keep |
| 3753s | players within that era of progression |
| 3758s | so if we're looking |
| 3759s | at um blocks |
| 3763s | for |
| 3769s | um um 3.14 days um if you're looking for |
| 3773s | blocks that are kind of equivalent in |
| 3774s | terms of material complexity and |
| 3777s | progression you got a do and then you |
| 3779s | got WT and blob wle and the do |
| 3783s | that's kind of leaning in |
| 3786s | towards the same tech level if you will |
| 3789s | like there's not a whole lot of upgrade |
| 3791s | possible in between those two it's |
| 3794s | generally just you know Twining stuff |
| 3796s | together with fibers instead of just |
| 3799s | slapping it together and and drying |
| 3802s | it um so probably more of an an adobe |
| 3805s | variation Maybe |
| 3806s | um but it wouldn't be enough to fit in |
| 3809s | between the |
| 3814s | two uh yeah in the Stream about the |
| 3817s | Adobe it did kind of look like it might |
| 3819s | be washed away by the rain in grasslands |
| 3821s | yeah |
| 3822s | it it's not necessarily a very |
| 3826s | U rainfall |
| 3829s | heavy resistant |
| 3833s | material um I'm having trouble finding |
| 3835s | service that make it all the way to the |
| 3837s | end game has syncing server starts ever |
| 3840s | been considered to incentivizes joining |
| 3842s | mid game for official servers um that is |
| 3845s | a very directed question more towards |
| 3848s | Dennis as our community |
| 3856s | manager |
| 3858s | um more than anything else there's |
| 3861s | there's a lot of there's a lot of |
| 3864s | benefits to it but there's a lot of |
| 3865s | there's also a lot of downsides to it |
| 3867s | because then you know you have kind of |
| 3869s | an e and flow where everyone starts in |
| 3872s | in one week and then it's completely |
| 3875s | dead by week two and no |
| 3878s | one can of joins and or runs an official |
| 3881s | server say you start off the game and |
| 3884s | you have to wait you know one and a half |
| 3885s | a week before the next official server |
| 3888s | restarts instead of having them looped |
| 3890s | back to |
| 3893s | back the server I play on destroy the |
| 3896s | here this weekend after only two weeks |
| 3898s | we got to rebalance our mods |
| 3902s | um yeah |
| 3904s | the balance in general is tricky when it |
| 3907s | comes to scaling |
| 3909s | multiplayer count um in a static economy |
| 3916s | environment um so for like scaling |
| 3919s | recipes for example could be a thing but |
| 3922s | then if recipes are scaling to player |
| 3925s | count then someone join before a bul of |
| 3928s | a bulk of players join |
| 3931s | in |
| 3935s | um um but yeah so if you know if you |
| 3938s | have a scaling recipe system where um an |
| 3941s | iron bar costs 10 iron ore and then |
| 3944s | suddenly you have 100 people joining and |
| 3946s | that iron the the same iron bar suddenly |
| 3948s | costs you know 200 iron ore um if you |
| 3951s | made a bunch of iron ore into iron bars |
| 3954s | initially before a big Splurge of people |
| 3957s | joined suddenly you know you're you're |
| 3960s | rich because you made |
| 3962s | materials that is so much cheaper than |
| 3965s | someone joining later |
| 3967s | on um which is why it's static and if |
| 3970s | it's static then it boils down into how |
| 3973s | many people are joining which is also a |
| 3975s | good example on why the speedruns are so |
| 3977s | nice to see |
| 3980s | um because you run into the issue of say |
| 3985s | you know the official servers are |
| 3988s | balanced towards you know the like the |
| 3990s | medium collaboration or the high |
| 3992s | collaboration setting is set like you |
| 3993s | know roughly 50 active |
| 3996s | players and then suddenly you got triple |
| 3999s | that in population then you're going to |
| 4002s | run into food scarcities which we've |
| 4004s | seen um you're going to run into |
| 4006s | absolutely devastated forests and not a |
| 4008s | tree around which we've seen in in |
| 4010s | previous |
| 4011s | builds um you'll run into there's so |
| 4015s | much more material available on the |
| 4018s | server and any flaw in balance in |
| 4020s | between two specific professions just |
| 4023s | gets Amplified so much |
| 4033s | more |
| 4037s | um uh most cases people people planning |
| 4040s | a career grinds all you all you need to |
| 4042s | keep going another guy buys your scoll |
| 4044s | and sets up shop in front of you so both |
| 4045s | quit early game yeah and and there's a |
| 4048s | lot of there's a lot of player mentality |
| 4050s | to it as well um and kind of a culture |
| 4053s | of wanting to be first um |
| 4058s | which I don't know if it's a if it's |
| 4060s | just a game |
| 4062s | era culture thing |
| 4066s | or um where this is really coming |
| 4070s | from |
| 4072s | um it um it really goes in some flows |
| 4076s | like you can really see how player |
| 4079s | player behavior um especially on on |
| 4081s | really really big platforms like Steam |
| 4083s | and so on kind of propagates and trying |
| 4086s | to do that type of |
| 4089s | genre uh approach regardless of the |
| 4094s | game um so if you have if you have a |
| 4097s | whole bunch of single player games that |
| 4100s | are kind of super quick to play through |
| 4102s | and they get super popular very quickly |
| 4105s | um and then they pop out into a |
| 4108s | completely different styled game but the |
| 4112s | same general |
| 4115s | design um and we see this in comparison |
| 4118s | like Minecraft compared to Eco in a lot |
| 4121s | of cases because they're both |
| 4122s | block-based voxal games they're both |
| 4124s | very creative |
| 4126s | sandboxy yet the general design approach |
| 4128s | is ex like substantially |
| 4131s | different um |
| 4134s | with just the fact that we don't have |
| 4137s | any general hostile mobs in Eco although |
| 4139s | you could argue that your competitor |
| 4142s | across the street is very hostile to you |
| 4144s | sometimes |
| 4148s | um but it's you then have you know you |
| 4152s | don't need really have any general |
| 4153s | threats you don't need to spend a bunch |
| 4155s | of material building defenses you don't |
| 4157s | have a consumption for um you know |
| 4159s | turret ammunitions or protection |
| 4161s | measures |
| 4164s | um which I could buy sell by tag for |
| 4167s | Simplicity um if you have a general and |
| 4170s | apparently I don't have that up on this |
| 4174s | let me let me push that in here as |
| 4178s | well uh that text can be changed |
| 4184s | out let me just grab this |
| 4188s | here where did this |
| 4190s | thing that's what I should be having |
| 4193s | hang |
| 4194s | on um so if you have a |
| 4201s | suggestion um actually copy |
| 4205s | that add a new text |
| 4209s | thing going on the Fly |
| 4215s | here add a text thing add |
| 4219s | there see if that makes |
| 4223s | sense and then we want to have that just |
| 4226s | reduce the opacity um so I'm just |
| 4227s | throwing in a |
| 4230s | um text |
| 4238s | box put that up there apparently I |
| 4242s | picked the wrong thing background |
| 4243s | opacity that's what we want not opacity |
| 4245s | of the |
| 4247s | text |
| 4250s | uh is that going to be in the way I |
| 4252s | don't know that's probably going to be |
| 4253s | in the way um so if you have any |
| 4256s | suggestions ideas and thoughts about |
| 4258s | improvements and or systematic changes |
| 4262s | or you know whatever whatever tickles |
| 4265s | your fancy um head up over onto our cany |
| 4268s | page and drop a suggestion or vote on |
| 4271s | some of the suggestions that are there |
| 4272s | that way um it helps us |
| 4276s | see where the general interest is and um |
| 4280s | might influence some of the priority |
| 4283s | decisions based on scale |
| 4286s | popularity |
| 4291s | um and there also there are also some |
| 4294s | good ones in there |
| 4295s | and you can just talk to other people |
| 4297s | having those |
| 4300s | ideas um think at Tech Tree where we all |
| 4303s | start as the same and then we work in |
| 4305s | diverse but it depends on your work and |
| 4307s | not not on what we research |
| 4312s | um yeah |
| 4318s | it's a general different approach to |
| 4323s | skillups |
| 4324s | um and |
| 4326s | it's like at the moment we have a very |
| 4329s | hard time component in relation to how |
| 4331s | quickly you can gain skills how fast you |
| 4333s | can kind of force a progression |
| 4337s | going um and if you if you base your |
| 4341s | complete progression on flat out just |
| 4346s | how much you're pulling into it |
| 4350s | um especially for like super skill-based |
| 4353s | progression and skill |
| 4355s | up |
| 4357s | um it adds a substantial |
| 4362s | higher gap between casual players and |
| 4365s | non-casual |
| 4368s | players um and we already have a pretty |
| 4371s | big gap in between them um the |
| 4372s | exhaustion functionalities and and |
| 4374s | feature that we've talked about prior |
| 4376s | and came up with a a bunch of |
| 4378s | improvements and polish for |
| 4381s | 10.2 um is a good example on kind of |
| 4385s | some of the measures that admins that |
| 4389s | have these problems in their communities |
| 4391s | really |
| 4392s | wanted um so time being as a critical |
| 4396s | component in to be able to |
| 4400s | bridge casual players and non-c |
| 4403s | casuals um is kind of the only element |
| 4407s | that you can use and having a completely |
| 4410s | pure skill-based experience gain |
| 4415s | system um it completely removes that and |
| 4418s | makes it a lot harder to deal with |
| 4421s | it that |
| 4423s | said um there is a config option if you |
| 4428s | want to experiment with it um gaming |
| 4431s | Engineers um as he brought it up um that |
| 4435s | will allow you to |
| 4437s | gain uh pure like player experience so |
| 4441s | the experience you gain here from um |
| 4444s | your skill multiplier so your actual |
| 4446s | character level |
| 4447s | up um there is a setting for that in the |
| 4451s | um in the um experience configs uh that |
| 4455s | will allow you to add a value to it so |
| 4457s | you will gain experience towards your |
| 4459s | player advancement regardless |
| 4463s | of um like disregarding the time you'll |
| 4466s | still get the time experience but you |
| 4468s | will get uh a portion of |
| 4472s | experience that you gain from using |
| 4474s | tools and whatnot in your specialization |
| 4476s | so if you pick logging you'll gain |
| 4478s | character progression level up by doing |
| 4481s | logging |
| 4483s | activities um but you'd still be bound |
| 4485s | by the research unless you do some other |
| 4487s | modding stuff |
| 4505s | uh uh which proves e his life with all |
| 4508s | its politic and |
| 4511s | drama um what does the paint in the |
| 4514s | video title refer to it is pure out |
| 4517s | paint vaganza here um when uh Toby Pops |
| 4523s | in um so 10.3 will introduce a new a new |
| 4527s | system that allows you to use a painting |
| 4529s | tool or different painting tools and |
| 4532s | they'll allow you to paint blocks in |
| 4535s | colors that you |
| 4537s | craft um and it's it's crazy it's |
| 4540s | beautiful it uh adds a ton of life and |
| 4544s | vibration to the game but it's going to |
| 4546s | be absolutely chaos I think initially um |
| 4550s | looking forward to seeing a lot of cool |
| 4552s | builds |
| 4560s | um regarding the time XP thing could |
| 4562s | something |
| 4563s | vaguely similar to bounce rest timer |
| 4566s | work um the the general issue with the |
| 4570s | time gain the The Experience gain |
| 4572s | crossed with time is that when you want |
| 4576s | time to be a major |
| 4579s | factor |
| 4582s | um it uh |
| 4585s | like even if you have the experience or |
| 4587s | double the experience um like well |
| 4589s | changed it switched it around to be um |
| 4592s | you'd still gain that experience |
| 4594s | regardless so you're still accumulating |
| 4596s | resources |
| 4598s | um a lot faster than |
| 4601s | is generally might be balanced |
| 4607s | towards um so it makes it really really |
| 4609s | tough to kind of deal with um a lot of |
| 4613s | the aspects of |
| 4618s | gauging |
| 4620s | uh gauging and estimating for how many |
| 4622s | players will take you know the the time |
| 4625s | it takes for players to gain the the |
| 4627s | same quantity of materials or |
| 4630s | experience we switch over to the wood |
| 4632s | cutting Industrial Area |
| 4635s | here a lot of workbenches going on we we |
| 4637s | see some more uh some more wooden Huts |
| 4640s | here and there and we see that carpentry |
| 4645s | station really taking form |
| 4652s | here |
| 4658s | um yeah so for the color selection um |
| 4661s | you have inputs for RGB and |
| 4667s | CMYK so it's straight up across the |
| 4669s | entire scale |
| 4678s | it'll be cool so we'll |
| 4680s | we'll in a bit here need to see if is |
| 4684s | Toby awake yet Toby is waking up |
| 4707s | um any more plans to have more updates |
| 4709s | in 10.3 do you have a Target date for it |
| 4711s | um you mean in terms of General stream |
| 4714s | updates for Content stuff that's coming |
| 4716s | for 10.3 |
| 4722s | or |
| 4723s | you referring to like more updates after |
| 4727s | 10.3 or what I'm a bit |
| 4731s | confused you lost me Pondo you lost me |
| 4735s | people making pixel arts on their |
| 4737s | buildings oh yeah I can um definitely |
| 4740s | see that happen people are already doing |
| 4742s | it with actual building stuff so I'm |
| 4745s | presuming they're going to have an even |
| 4747s | more amazing time poking at it with |
| 4750s | paint |
| 4753s | stuff imagine forgetting the exact shade |
| 4755s | of black you used and have to repaint |
| 4757s | the whole building to be the same one oh |
| 4759s | I can |
| 4760s | uh there is hang on hang on we have a |
| 4763s | Toby |
| 4765s | we have a |
| 4767s | Toby but Toby is |
| 4771s | uh uh let's do this in in the meantime |
| 4775s | let's uh let's get stuff set up um be |
| 4779s | right back |
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| 4944s | e |
| 4983s | [Music] |
| 4986s | there we |
| 4987s | go |
| 4989s | hello think audio should be fine let me |
| 4992s | know if audio isn't |
| 4994s | fine should be you hear me hello should |
| 4998s | be able to hear Toby here increase you a |
| 5001s | little bit um yeah so you know doing |
| 5005s | doing speedrun craziness |
| 5008s | um people are building |
| 5011s | like uh like crazy um things are |
| 5015s | happening how are you doing awake way |
| 5018s | early in the morning I'm awake I'm |
| 5020s | barely awake I got coffee somewhere here |
| 5024s | it |
| 5025s | is I S I popped into the stream for a |
| 5028s | second I was I was watching it off to |
| 5030s | the side as I was getting ready and I |
| 5031s | just sort of |
| 5033s | appeared was not ready |
| 5036s | that shirt on those it's fine that that |
| 5038s | was uh that was a very much my fault |
| 5043s | uh overlay overlay not |
| 5048s | overlaying okay nice Toby what hour is |
| 5052s | it for you and where are you |
| 5054s | located um I'm in Brisbane Australia and |
| 5057s | it's 6:21 |
| 5059s | a.m. so I'd normally be asleep it's a |
| 5062s | Saturday so I'm in the future for most |
| 5064s | people I guess |
| 5065s | unless you're also in |
| 5067s | Australia do we have anyone in Australia |
| 5069s | watching the stream do anyone awake this |
| 5071s | early |
| 5073s | here it it's probably more in the line |
| 5076s | of if someone still is uh ask for race |
| 5079s | 600 a.m. on a Saturday this is crazy um |
| 5083s | yeah it's probably more a question of if |
| 5085s | if someone is still awake rather than is |
| 5089s | already awake yeah yeah I should have |
| 5091s | just stayed |
| 5093s | up zombify just sitting there |
| 5098s | like um yeah but no so what do we got |
| 5102s | for us painting people have been asking |
| 5105s | about what what's the deal with the |
| 5106s | paint topic |
| 5109s | yeah um paint painting is fun I've been |
| 5112s | enjoying it this week it's been crazy |
| 5115s | been a lot of good work done on it |
| 5119s | urug that is a long ways |
| 5123s | over really |
| 5127s | the opposite |
| 5129s | side um but yeah I guess just take it |
| 5133s | away for uh take it away to your screen |
| 5136s | share okay I think maybe are we are we |
| 5140s | ready for that are you are you prepared |
| 5141s | we can do that yeah actually let's move |
| 5144s | that move that thing up to the top right |
| 5147s | so it's not in the way because that's |
| 5149s | going to be in the way other ways there |
| 5150s | we go |
| 5152s | yeah so here we go now we're on he's |
| 5155s | live we are we are live on Unity editor |
| 5158s | hopefully playing nice but knowing |
| 5160s | knowing Unity sometimes it doesn't |
| 5164s | so we will see we'll we'll see um yeah |
| 5167s | it's been okay this morning so so far so |
| 5171s | um yeah we're here in the title |
| 5173s | screen uh you've probably seen it when |
| 5176s | you log in this is our little world that |
| 5178s | we built for |
| 5180s | that and is my stream running smooth |
| 5183s | enough i' I've got a Australian internet |
| 5185s | so it's not very good I think it's |
| 5188s | looking |
| 5189s | good cool I think stream can probably |
| 5193s | let us know in uh in case we're getting |
| 5197s | every everything is looking good so you |
| 5198s | know seems like it quad Bros in the |
| 5204s | chat he's done a lot of the work on |
| 5208s | this looking really good so I don't know |
| 5210s | should we start off with kind of how you |
| 5212s | get the paints going or should we just |
| 5214s | start some painting and show the |
| 5215s | functionality of |
| 5217s | it a few different paint guns |
| 5220s | here yeah we got a we got a few few cool |
| 5223s | gadgets and and trinkets to do it um so |
| 5228s | for for initial painting um maybe maybe |
| 5232s | we should just go through the process |
| 5233s | and kind of talk about it so uh |
| 5236s | everything starts with a flower or a |
| 5239s | mineral depending a little bit on on the |
| 5242s | pigment type um and just just just as a |
| 5246s | general alarm note all the recipes are |
| 5249s | still pending balance I'm still working |
| 5251s | on them so they're not going to be the |
| 5253s | quantity you're producing or necessarily |
| 5256s | the specific ingredients uh back and |
| 5258s | forth just as a disclaimer so no one |
| 5260s | just like freaks out of like these |
| 5263s | paints are going to be super super |
| 5265s | expensive I'm not going to be able to |
| 5266s | afford to paint more than you know two |
| 5268s | tiles um so just you know it'll it'll be |
| 5273s | different on release |
| 5278s | yeah so those are all crafted here at |
| 5280s | the Mill aren't they so we've got like |
| 5282s | the different powers that are are |
| 5283s | crafted from you get the the blue Powder |
| 5286s | from the |
| 5289s | huckleberries correct yep and you have |
| 5293s | some some mixture um we've got some some |
| 5298s | are going to be organic so some are |
| 5301s | processed from actual crops and plants |
| 5303s | and and so on |
| 5305s | um some are going to be |
| 5308s | inorganic um as in minerals so iron or |
| 5312s | copper and and so on so forth um so |
| 5315s | there's a few different types of |
| 5317s | sourcing of the |
| 5319s | pigments um and you might have multiple |
| 5322s | different sources |
| 5324s | for the same |
| 5328s | colors yeah I think the example of |
| 5330s | that's the yellow one right so yeah this |
| 5333s | one's created by sunflower then you've |
| 5336s | also got it in here as a recipe for |
| 5338s | powdered |
| 5340s | cre still making the yellow |
| 5343s | powder uh very healthy to craft paints |
| 5346s | on the same table as we Mill flour well |
| 5349s | you know I'd hope that the Miller is |
| 5351s | using two different Mills just just for |
| 5354s | sanitary |
| 5359s | reasons ref found the use for copper |
| 5361s | then copper spray gun |
| 5367s | uh but yeah so once you have your |
| 5369s | materials that you want to use and you |
| 5371s | have a wide range of Base pigments that |
| 5374s | you can use to mix colors with um you've |
| 5378s | got the new crafting station for all of |
| 5380s | the interactions for |
| 5384s | this uh which is our paint mixing |
| 5388s | table and you kind of start out this |
| 5392s | this Paint Bucket which is just like |
| 5394s | like a base paint which I could just |
| 5397s | give myself a bunch of |
| 5405s | them no I can't do 100 what's the stack |
| 5408s | size on those |
| 5410s | 10 you're going to have to do an F give |
| 5413s | if you want to exceed it |
| 5415s | [Music] |
| 5417s | true but yeah that that also goes for |
| 5419s | stack sizes and everything |
| 5425s | it'll it it'll be different but uh the |
| 5428s | functionality isn't going to |
| 5434s | change yeah so once you've put the this |
| 5437s | is kind of still a work in progress we |
| 5438s | got some other ideas on how to advance |
| 5441s | this but it's it is actually quite fun |
| 5443s | mixing the different colors to to come |
| 5445s | up with unique |
| 5449s | ones so these are based on the pigments |
| 5452s | that we've got um you kind like lighten |
| 5454s | it up darken it |
| 5464s | down kind of charcoal I guess so these |
| 5468s | these names are kind of just getting |
| 5469s | pulled by the the closest they are to |
| 5471s | one of our like reset colors aren't they |
| 5475s | yeah yes we have a we have a a general |
| 5478s | list that will it's just a grade of how |
| 5481s | close it is to that defined color and it |
| 5483s | will pull that name so you might have a |
| 5486s | very large variety of specific |
| 5491s | colors um but it will it it and that's |
| 5494s | also something that we can just keep |
| 5497s | populating with specific names um or |
| 5501s | other real color palette names in in |
| 5507s | equivalent um but yeah so the the at the |
| 5511s | moment it's it's somewhat fairly wide |
| 5513s | range but it can be narrowed down by |
| 5515s | just expanding that list of names for |
| 5517s | these |
| 5521s | colors yeah we're getting some comments |
| 5524s | here I'm just reading through |
| 5527s | um tweaks to the UI for RGB hex value |
| 5531s | etc for a higher tier painting paint |
| 5533s | mixing |
| 5536s | machine yeah not a bad idea the the the |
| 5540s | um the the RGB heex value input is |
| 5546s | it's a what do you want to what do you |
| 5549s | want to call it uh there there is a |
| 5552s | general |
| 5554s | um kind |
| 5555s | of usability concern with it because we |
| 5559s | want we want the whole painting system |
| 5562s | to be very interactive um very physical |
| 5565s | in that |
| 5567s | sense |
| 5569s | um but we also don't want to detract |
| 5573s | from that so if we add say um you know |
| 5576s | an an inter field for just placing down |
| 5578s | the RGB values or dropping in the hex |
| 5581s | value then the entirety of the the |
| 5584s | mixing feature |
| 5586s | is uh just bypassed or you know |
| 5590s | completely kind of scrapped |
| 5592s | ignored and people can then opt to just |
| 5595s | ignore the whole paint mixing and just |
| 5596s | wait with painting until you come into |
| 5598s | late stages and you can just use that |
| 5600s | RGB thing um so it's still a very |
| 5605s | um it it's on the board of like do we |
| 5607s | want it for its quality of life slash |
| 5610s | ease of use kind of |
| 5612s | thing |
| 5614s | versus is it going to completely |
| 5617s | invalidate the use of this feature on |
| 5619s | its on its head |
| 5621s | essentially which is where our general |
| 5623s | concern is for it which is why it's not |
| 5626s | in at the moment the the specific mixed |
| 5630s | paint um with the debug text will print |
| 5634s | out the hex valy for the like a color |
| 5636s | type which is also something that we're |
| 5638s | experimenting with um and looking into |
| 5640s | kind of how we want to display the |
| 5642s | information of what paint is contained |
| 5644s | in each |
| 5645s | bucket um player UI wise um so if you |
| 5651s | throw throw together that |
| 5654s | mixture um and then look over on the |
| 5657s | tool |
| 5659s | tip you can see that it it does show you |
| 5664s | um the he code that's |
| 5666s | follow yeah um and that's something that |
| 5669s | we might want to keep it there you know |
| 5672s | there's a lot of these minor things that |
| 5677s | um |
| 5679s | um that is still on the kind of design |
| 5681s | Board of of like how much of this is |
| 5684s | going to be usable what what's just |
| 5686s | preferred um while still keeping it kind |
| 5690s | of in the in in the range of complexity |
| 5693s | that we're targeting |
| 5697s | um ask for some colors with how about um |
| 5701s | do you get the color you see or the |
| 5703s | closest pre preset to it um EG anything |
| 5707s | close to shle will all be the same color |
| 5709s | no it'll be it'll be the preset one so |
| 5712s | uh it it'll be what's in the preview |
| 5714s | that'll that is the output color the |
| 5716s | name is just pulled from the closest ass |
| 5721s | the closest Associated point of data |
| 5723s | value |
| 5724s | so if you're looking at a paintt bucket |
| 5726s | that |
| 5727s | is um completely 100% red and then you |
| 5731s | add a slight gradient scale to it to |
| 5733s | kind of shift it over into another color |
| 5734s | it'll SP it'll still pull the name |
| 5737s | closest to that defined red |
| 5743s | value um but it it will output the one |
| 5747s | that's in the preview so you do have |
| 5749s | access to the full range of colors |
| 5752s | um and the more you experiment with |
| 5755s | percentages the more you're going to |
| 5757s | shade and and differentiate to it um |
| 5760s | until you forget the exact shade of blue |
| 5762s | you used and need them to repaint the |
| 5764s | whole house um yeah presets is something |
| 5768s | that we've talked about um and |
| 5770s | that's yeah we do want to do that just |
| 5773s | trying to figure out the best way to |
| 5774s | kind of approach that for the UI but I'm |
| 5777s | not sure if that's going to make it in |
| 5778s | for 10 three but it it'll it'll probably |
| 5783s | not |
| 5784s | there the I I |
| 5787s | think um I think from our discussion |
| 5790s | it's we kind of want to wrap up the main |
| 5792s | features and core aspects of it so we |
| 5795s | might do a UI pass and expand on it and |
| 5799s | and in integrate some really cool |
| 5801s | quality of life things and we do have a |
| 5802s | concept from eleno I don't know if you |
| 5804s | saw that yet posted one last |
| 5808s | night um yeah I did see that |
| 5811s | well I worked with them on it a little |
| 5813s | bit before so I don't know I've seen the |
| 5815s | the final |
| 5816s | thing |
| 5819s | so uh I won't look at it now oh yeah an |
| 5822s | ey dropper tool that that tells you what |
| 5824s | color combo is in a painted inor block |
| 5826s | yeah it it's a lot of things like that |
| 5828s | is is stuff that we're talking about and |
| 5830s | and kind of reviewing and seeing how far |
| 5832s | we want to take |
| 5834s | it um but for the general chat and |
| 5838s | discussions surrounding it we do have |
| 5840s | solid plans for allowing you to save |
| 5844s | color |
| 5846s | presets so you'll have a an an indent in |
| 5850s | the paint mixing system where you can |
| 5853s | save up to a certain quantity of colors |
| 5855s | or if it's scrollable and we just allow |
| 5857s | any number of Saved colors and then you |
| 5859s | can just click that color and it'll just |
| 5862s | add the values you need to have in in |
| 5864s | pigments resources equivalent to paint |
| 5868s | it um |
| 5875s | yeah I'm pretty keen on the idea of |
| 5877s | naming your own colors as well and being |
| 5880s | able to kind of copyright them so you |
| 5882s | know this is my color mhm just like yeah |
| 5886s | color copyright law is pretty wild in |
| 5888s | real real life so could be very |
| 5892s | interesting yeah um get very |
| 5896s | complicated it it it like it it can be |
| 5899s | super sophisticated like it can be it |
| 5901s | can be super super complex for regarding |
| 5904s | all the all the |
| 5906s | potential related systems running it um |
| 5909s | Pondo yeah the the um someone spotted |
| 5912s | the dynamic icons immediately of course |
| 5915s | um it's I just about to bring that up |
| 5917s | it's a new fancy cool technical Gizmo |
| 5920s | that Toby and Mike has been working |
| 5922s | on mostly Mike mostly |
| 5927s | Mike yeah it's pretty |
| 5929s | cool we could use it for other things |
| 5931s | too but yeah it's um |
| 5935s | kind of this two-part icon that can be |
| 5938s | tinted I lost my nice |
| 5940s | blue the other thing that's really cool |
| 5942s | with the other thing that's really cool |
| 5944s | with this is kind |
| 5946s | of yeah there we go so these paint |
| 5949s | sprayers have like this little Dynamic |
| 5951s | part that updates that's a really awful |
| 5953s | awful color |
| 5955s | but it's a pretty blue oh what have I |
| 5960s | done oh no |
| 5964s | you're prob found a bug you're probably |
| 5966s | breaking it I know we were talking about |
| 5967s | if you have yeah if you have |
| 5970s | um a selected stack in it and then you |
| 5974s | pull the stack out without pulling it |
| 5975s | out of the tool or |
| 5978s | yeah that that at the moment there is a |
| 5981s | bug when you when you have a stack |
| 5984s | selected and then you move the stack |
| 5986s | without unselecting it um it it causes a |
| 5990s | bit of a Mayhem so we see if okay |
| 5994s | un messes |
| 5996s | it um that's how does how does the |
| 6000s | ratios of pigments relate to how many |
| 6002s | powders it uses um it is entirely on |
| 6006s | like weight percentages so if you take |
| 6009s | and it'll use one piece of pigment per |
| 6014s | input um so if you add you know five |
| 6017s | Reds in that UI it will consume five red |
| 6020s | input |
| 6021s | ingredients um at the moment it is |
| 6024s | is essentially Unlimited |
| 6027s | on Max stack size for how much the |
| 6031s | pigments are used so when you select and |
| 6034s | have a preset mixture it'll take those |
| 6036s | pigments but it will |
| 6039s | make |
| 6041s | um it'll make um any quantity of paint |
| 6045s | paint buckets with that |
| 6048s | color uh up to the stack size so if you |
| 6052s | input like you know 400 paint buckets or |
| 6054s | 400 you know base paint stuff in the |
| 6057s | mixing table and then you set your |
| 6059s | preset it's not going to |
| 6061s | consume multiplied |
| 6064s | by um the paint |
| 6067s | pocket um can we Outlaw certain houses |
| 6071s | painted in in in quote unquote ugly |
| 6074s | Styles |
| 6075s | um I think painting as an action can be |
| 6078s | prevented but I I don't know if we want |
| 6082s | to |
| 6084s | go all the way craziness in in picking |
| 6088s | specific color values because then that |
| 6090s | would need to have the rgbx |
| 6093s | values we'll |
| 6096s | see um there's some interesting ideas |
| 6099s | around |
| 6102s | it uh does a block retain its color when |
| 6106s | picked up or just reset to |
| 6112s | default it re sets at the moment doesn't |
| 6114s | it yeah yeah probably |
| 6120s | should so get quite |
| 6122s | complicated yeah because then the picked |
| 6124s | up block has to also remember what the |
| 6128s | color data on |
| 6131s | it um um Satsuki there is a few things |
| 6136s | on them that are not entirely done yet |
| 6139s | however you do have |
| 6141s | a a general pace of |
| 6145s | interaction um so as you can see now |
| 6148s | here he's holding the golden paint gun |
| 6153s | um which is the dev tool version of a |
| 6157s | paint |
| 6158s | tool and that will just allow you |
| 6160s | to paint crazily and as you can see |
| 6163s | there there's also a preset pallet that |
| 6165s | he can select stuff |
| 6169s | on fly mode not working beautiful just |
| 6173s | do |
| 6174s | I can play |
| 6179s | yeah yeah this is this is quite |
| 6187s | fun oh no am I going to paint the entire |
| 6190s | house |
| 6193s | pink um I can see it now admins are |
| 6195s | going to need a way to remove colors um |
| 6198s | it's probably not impossible to |
| 6201s | do some sort of like |
| 6204s | clean paint command for |
| 6207s | aiel |
| 6209s | um but we do have some |
| 6212s | uh can't wait for the Legion of elicit |
| 6219s | graffiti uh yeah so the the color pallet |
| 6222s | GUI up on the top left as you can see |
| 6225s | which probably will be moved around a |
| 6227s | little bit is what pops up when you use |
| 6230s | the dev Tool uh or the paint Dev tool |
| 6236s | um and it's it's only accessible with |
| 6239s | that one at the |
| 6241s | moment we have some we have some general |
| 6243s | thoughts and ideas of of how to |
| 6245s | generally improve |
| 6247s | the |
| 6249s | um improve the quality of life for it um |
| 6253s | but the paint tools will also feature |
| 6255s | the same kind of um form selection as |
| 6258s | you have on the regular building Hammer |
| 6262s | so for actually painting larger areas |
| 6265s | and and larger buildings um |
| 6268s | in kind of at |
| 6271s | once |
| 6273s | um doing finally doing that red stripe |
| 6276s | on the U Lighthouse instead of just |
| 6279s | using bricks |
| 6282s | yeah um but yeah so the the |
| 6287s | general the general thing with the tool |
| 6290s | upgrades being like the wooden paint |
| 6291s | sprayer is having like Point like Point |
| 6295s | click only similar to the um Stone |
| 6297s | Hammer um and then you'll have different |
| 6301s | form selections for um the higher tier |
| 6305s | tools as well as the the general pace of |
| 6310s | interaction um so the modern sprayer |
| 6312s | will have the same speed as you're |
| 6315s | seeing right now with the dev |
| 6318s | Tool uh bumpity any questions on future |
| 6322s | revision to only be able to paint one |
| 6324s | specific side of a |
| 6326s | block um I know we we talked about that |
| 6329s | internally but |
| 6332s | uh that in itself has a lot of |
| 6334s | optimization and performance questions |
| 6337s | and potential issues which I think is |
| 6339s | the main |
| 6342s | concern yeah cuz each Block's just |
| 6346s | storing the color itself right and then |
| 6348s | if you had to break it down into which |
| 6350s | face had it |
| 6353s | that'd be a question for mic |
| 6362s | probably and look white it's white |
| 6367s | Limestone yeah it's beautiful Crystal |
| 6373s | white that thing really and you can you |
| 6376s | can also pick the colors with the dev |
| 6377s | tool which is nice yeah |
| 6385s | so some some of the other things we were |
| 6387s | talking about was |
| 6388s | like maybe offering a slider that gives |
| 6391s | you kind of less of an effect so you get |
| 6393s | more of the the base showing through so |
| 6395s | I guess like a lighter |
| 6397s | coat so you could kind of just use that |
| 6399s | to |
| 6400s | tint um the |
| 6403s | materials yeah yeah we we had a lot |
| 6406s | there's a little bit showing through |
| 6407s | yeah we we had a longer discussion on |
| 6409s | that in in regards to kind of the |
| 6412s | thickness of the paint |
| 6414s | um |
| 6416s | and it had a profound effect depending |
| 6419s | on the |
| 6421s | material um the material used like the |
| 6425s | if you're using like a |
| 6426s | dark uh composite Lumber versus if |
| 6429s | you're using a bright composite |
| 6431s | Lumber um it had a substantial |
| 6434s | difference in terms of um kind of how |
| 6438s | much of the background material is |
| 6439s | shining through depending on the um the |
| 6441s | alpha for it and if it's too low some of |
| 6446s | the color Shades really didn't have any |
| 6448s | effect at all like they were barely |
| 6450s | visible unless you did it like on a |
| 6452s | bigger scale compared to some to another |
| 6455s | color |
| 6457s | um so exposing that to |
| 6462s | be |
| 6465s | visible um is something that we also |
| 6468s | kind of wanted to do and we also have |
| 6470s | the potential to do |
| 6472s | that just got here did J paint the |
| 6474s | helicopter yet no no we haven't painted |
| 6476s | the helicopter |
| 6479s | yet um so as you can see here as an |
| 6482s | example pull down the alpha you see a |
| 6484s | lot more of the Limestone shining |
| 6488s | through um which means you know your |
| 6491s | black isn't going to be black your red |
| 6493s | isn't going to be purely red um it's |
| 6495s | going to be more toward very dependent |
| 6497s | on very dependent on the |
| 6501s | actual like base material color so like |
| 6505s | that one will be darker than than this |
| 6508s | one so know that could be that could be |
| 6510s | a slider so you could kind of tweak that |
| 6513s | you could go full full coverage and then |
| 6515s | just like a a light |
| 6517s | coat so like if you wanted to kind |
| 6521s | of just darken these up a |
| 6531s | bit yeah |
| 6534s | not sure how how easy that'll be |
| 6537s | but it's just the the color that's |
| 6539s | coming in the alpha on that |
| 6545s | so |
| 6547s | uh see get an answer that uh yeah on on |
| 6552s | the paints we had we had some ideas for |
| 6554s | uh being able to outright remove the |
| 6556s | paint from a block by interaction either |
| 6559s | by it being a separate tool or if it's |
| 6561s | an alternative action on the paint guns |
| 6563s | or kind of like |
| 6565s | where where that's introduced or or you |
| 6568s | know if we wanted to have a turpentine |
| 6570s | bucket and you just Purge the color on |
| 6572s | the Block |
| 6576s | um uh so there's some there's some ideas |
| 6578s | and and some things that we can do there |
| 6580s | that is |
| 6582s | uh quite possible um and it's just it's |
| 6585s | just super gratifying just watching |
| 6588s | watching paint happen in |
| 6589s | Eco is |
| 6593s | fantastic um it it just I don't know it |
| 6597s | it just adds so much personality to |
| 6600s | it um yeah I'm very excited to see what |
| 6603s | people do with this especially like you |
| 6605s | can imagine some pretty amazing pixel |
| 6607s | art happening or even just breaking down |
| 6609s | photos |
| 6611s | into pixel art getting like hyper |
| 6614s | realistic stuff going |
| 6618s | on |
| 6621s | um could rain tint the blocks darker |
| 6624s | temporarily |
| 6628s | um nothing's probably impossible in |
| 6630s | terms of having having the rainstorms |
| 6634s | kind of make stuff look darker |
| 6637s | but it |
| 6639s | uh there's a lot of there's a lot of |
| 6642s | different technical things happening at |
| 6644s | the same time there |
| 6647s | um and probably not initially but we'll |
| 6650s | uh I said we'll see how far we take it |
| 6653s | um you do have you do have the wetness |
| 6656s | kind of coming through on blocks as |
| 6661s | well when Toby tinted the docks it |
| 6663s | looked like it it had rained oh um it |
| 6665s | was when he was running the um he |
| 6668s | reduced the opacity SL Alpha on the the |
| 6671s | the |
| 6672s | paint so it just you you just kind of |
| 6676s | tinted up or stained the wood almost |
| 6680s | you uh to a point |
| 6685s | um versus you know having like a full |
| 6688s | coat painting |
| 6690s | it um and having that as kind of a |
| 6693s | setting or a slider or something that |
| 6694s | you can adjust yourself on the tool |
| 6697s | you're using um it's probably going to |
| 6699s | be the |
| 6701s | better interaction change for |
| 6704s | players um can you paint |
| 6708s | vehicles um do do you want to answer |
| 6711s | that or should I answer it |
| 6713s | not |
| 6715s | yet I don't want to answer it yet no |
| 6719s | um yeah we we've got that stuff in the |
| 6723s | works but yeah it's not going to |
| 6726s | be probably not 103 I |
| 6729s | guess definitely not Vehicles 10 three |
| 6732s | no but we have a we have a plan for it |
| 6735s | so |
| 6737s | coming we have a large part of the |
| 6739s | systems in place for |
| 6741s | it but but there's still there's still |
| 6745s | some technical interaction side |
| 6748s | things um that needs to be done or |
| 6751s | completed for it to be |
| 6754s | possible um so unfortunately it's |
| 6757s | probably not going to make it into |
| 6760s | 10.3 |
| 6763s | um in terms of and and that's not just |
| 6766s | vehicles to to be specific that's that's |
| 6768s | the whole uh being able to paint World |
| 6770s | objects in general uh because it's |
| 6773s | something that we we're intending to |
| 6775s | do not necessarily the whole object |
| 6777s | it'll vary from object object to object |
| 6780s | to which parts can be |
| 6783s | paintable um and there's different |
| 6785s | details and different objects and they |
| 6787s | are also being kind of set up and and |
| 6790s | Polished um while that |
| 6793s | happens um so you know different |
| 6796s | different levels of |
| 6797s | detail um to be |
| 6799s | paintable um to see if I could actually |
| 6803s | show that |
| 6804s | off |
| 6811s | um y can we repaint the road lines um |
| 6816s | you can make the asphalt a complete |
| 6819s | color although that is a good question |
| 6821s | if if the opacity isn't set straight up |
| 6823s | if you brightly paint the |
| 6826s | asphalt it's going to shuffle fun things |
| 6828s | with the lights |
| 6835s | but yes there there's a good example on |
| 6837s | kind |
| 6838s | of the the the kind of different |
| 6843s | style um and detail color shifts on the |
| 6849s | object so that this has got kind of |
| 6852s | three different color |
| 6854s | sections two three |
| 6863s | yeah this is this will require setting |
| 6864s | up on a lot of different things |
| 6868s | um we've got a few kind of ready to |
| 6872s | go color code your |
| 6874s | chestor yeah not not not just color |
| 6877s | coding the text but color coding the |
| 6878s | chest |
| 6880s | itself |
| 6883s | um what about decals custom patterns and |
| 6886s | stickers to be sprayed |
| 6890s | on yeah I'm open to that we have don't |
| 6894s | have anything planned at the moment |
| 6897s | but we starting to use decals for some |
| 6899s | of our assets |
| 6901s | so probably |
| 6904s | something not sure how that how they |
| 6906s | would work like I guess it would |
| 6910s | be um from from a mod kit one for you uh |
| 6915s | from a technical standpoint we'll um you |
| 6919s | are changing the color of uh from a |
| 6921s | technical standpoint here you're |
| 6922s | changing the color of an existing block |
| 6924s | SL model will it be supported to be able |
| 6926s | to paint custom models added by mods I'm |
| 6929s | assuming that you're you're talking |
| 6930s | about if modded objects are able to be |
| 6933s | paintable |
| 6936s | yes yeah |
| 6940s | there's I wonder if I should just |
| 6946s | show did you set up a new like |
| 6950s | base base variation thing blender for |
| 6955s | it also um yeah there's a there's a |
| 6958s | there's an add-on for it |
| 6960s | so still kind of work in progress but |
| 6964s | needs some testing seems to be |
| 6967s | working speaking of addons did you did |
| 6969s | you publish the um the Eco |
| 6973s | thing or is that still just on your |
| 6975s | local side I've handed it out to some |
| 6980s | select people to test |
| 6984s | but that's what this is here |
| 6985s | so I know are people interested in this |
| 6988s | or is this |
| 6989s | uh |
| 6996s | Nish this is kind of the work FL that |
| 6999s | we're using yeah yeah it's probably |
| 7001s | probably a bit of mix I think some |
| 7003s | people might be interested just to kind |
| 7004s | of see how how thing how things are |
| 7007s | happening and |
| 7009s | and what on Earth a Game Dev artists do |
| 7013s | yeah |
| 7015s | okay um well this this is probably what |
| 7018s | we'll start making available to for |
| 7021s | moders is like the we've got this |
| 7023s | Library which has got a bunch of decals |
| 7026s | that minko whipped up so you can hang I |
| 7029s | need to |
| 7032s | actually |
| 7035s | and so these are like little bits and |
| 7037s | pieces that can be kind of placed around |
| 7039s | on your asset |
| 7046s | but the main thing is |
| 7049s | this common |
| 7061s | material and then with this Eco |
| 7064s | add-on you can kind of choose which |
| 7067s | texture you want so we've got this this |
| 7070s | is all in an atlas as an atlas of all |
| 7072s | the different mat atal that we're |
| 7076s | using it should be updating but oh |
| 7079s | that's |
| 7082s | right you've also got the ability to |
| 7085s | kind of tint things if you wanted to |
| 7090s | like make this little inside part |
| 7093s | darker you can tint it down like |
| 7097s | this but then these These are also |
| 7100s | paintable so if I go into I want to make |
| 7103s | this part you know color |
| 7107s | one then these sides will get painted |
| 7110s | with color two and then this inside |
| 7111s | Parts color color three so this is kind |
| 7114s | of the approaches the model could take |
| 7116s | to make their assets paintable so you be |
| 7119s | able to use this add-on to like kind of |
| 7121s | assign those areas for |
| 7126s | color does that help is that useful |
| 7133s | [Music] |
| 7135s | uh does that mean that we can make |
| 7137s | models using the same textures as |
| 7139s | existing building blocks but without |
| 7140s | needing Dev here it depends on what's |
| 7143s | what's loaded into that thing isn't |
| 7146s | it yeah so the these are more for the |
| 7148s | World objects yeah but yeah |
| 7151s | yeah that's the idea |
| 7157s | so um and then each of those sides would |
| 7160s | be paintable by players in game yeah so |
| 7161s | you you assign the channel it's the |
| 7164s | surface that goes into which channel and |
| 7166s | then the channel is what's being painted |
| 7168s | when you U interact with it mous over |
| 7171s | or um so |
| 7174s | on |
| 7178s | yeah so this Atlas is still a work in |
| 7181s | progress so there's a bunch of empty |
| 7183s | stuff and we're still tweaking values on |
| 7185s | it but everything's kind of |
| 7187s | using this now |
| 7190s | so should give it lot more consistency |
| 7193s | cuz like previously every like every |
| 7196s | object that was made out of wood was |
| 7197s | using a totally different texture so |
| 7199s | it's |
| 7200s | all kind of slight inconsistencies and |
| 7204s | also um using up a lot of vram for |
| 7209s | essentially the same |
| 7211s | texture so that was kind of the thing |
| 7213s | behind |
| 7217s | this yeah anyway back to painting back |
| 7220s | to painting |
| 7224s | yeah I think that that Lighthouse is |
| 7226s | looking so much so crazily much clearer |
| 7229s | now it is this white dud there's white |
| 7234s | and there's real white real white real |
| 7237s | red not just Redwood |
| 7246s | red look at that |
| 7249s | beautiful and it's not made out of |
| 7251s | bricks it just same Stone crazy |
| 7257s | yeah um is glass |
| 7261s | paintable it's |
| 7263s | not |
| 7265s | it's the the frames |
| 7267s | are the Glass |
| 7270s | isn't not sure what we want to do there |
| 7272s | we might be able to kind of tint it it' |
| 7275s | be the same color is what the frame goes |
| 7277s | to I guess but yeah we we we talked a |
| 7281s | little bit about it the other day |
| 7283s | where you know if we could |
| 7285s | do if we could do like two |
| 7290s | different channels for blocks in that |
| 7295s | range um so you could have like a like a |
| 7298s | stained glass kind of |
| 7300s | thing |
| 7303s | um but there's a there's a lot of |
| 7305s | General complication with |
| 7307s | it um |
| 7313s | because the the the general issue with |
| 7315s | blocks and as we're touching on like the |
| 7318s | the blocks gets really complicated |
| 7320s | datawise um and the |
| 7324s | more details in between them um the more |
| 7328s | data needs to be stored across the board |
| 7330s | so if you |
| 7331s | have if you add another Channel you're |
| 7333s | doubling the quantity of information |
| 7335s | that needs to be stored in |
| 7336s | it |
| 7341s | um but it would also be interested |
| 7344s | interesting to |
| 7350s | do um but yeah at the moment it's just |
| 7353s | the um it's just the frames as as answer |
| 7355s | to it at the moment just the um the |
| 7357s | actual frame socket for |
| 7361s | um for the glass that's paintable not |
| 7364s | the glass |
| 7365s | itself yeah |
| 7373s | uh sock it's if the the um if the |
| 7377s | general intention is that we don't want |
| 7380s | we want the frame to be paintable but we |
| 7382s | don't want the glass to necessarily be |
| 7383s | painted about in the |
| 7386s | same |
| 7388s | um in the same interaction or the same |
| 7391s | color as the frame is so say you wanted |
| 7393s | a a black tinted window but you want a |
| 7396s | red |
| 7397s | frame um it needs to store both |
| 7401s | values because it's still in the same |
| 7403s | block the the glass pane itself is not |
| 7407s | see there there's homage to you |
| 7411s | armored |
| 7414s | uh why are you doing this to me |
| 7419s | Toby I'm |
| 7426s | sorry yeah didn't quite make it uh |
| 7433s | proportionate that's fine that's |
| 7439s | fine you do zebra Crossings with this as |
| 7442s | well I you can already do that |
| 7445s | but helicopters confirmed by Toby see |
| 7449s | what see what you're see what you're |
| 7450s | doing |
| 7452s | here oh dear I mean we already have |
| 7454s | these spinny blades yeah how would it be |
| 7458s | speaking speaking of the spinny blades |
| 7460s | um when's that upgrade coming |
| 7469s | in they're bigger so there'll be a a |
| 7472s | migration needed I |
| 7474s | guess an occupancy |
| 7476s | change yeah because that that's that's |
| 7478s | in that is inut three right are those |
| 7482s | those can be |
| 7483s | yeah are those on |
| 7487s | develop not yet no but they can be |
| 7492s | they and they're paintable as well so if |
| 7495s | we could get that in that' be cool uh |
| 7499s | socket what you are seeing him roaming |
| 7501s | around in is the title screen |
| 7509s | world so the |
| 7511s | uh the the the thing in main title |
| 7515s | is is a built World it |
| 7519s | it and it stemmed from |
| 7523s | um the background |
| 7525s | image |
| 7527s | um for the uh the Stream |
| 7531s | overl So we had the um like the the both |
| 7535s | docks blueprint |
| 7539s | thing |
| 7542s | um and then the art team decided hey you |
| 7544s | know this this was a great concept thing |
| 7547s | let's let's make it into a |
| 7550s | reality so in a mixture of the whole art |
| 7553s | team being |
| 7555s | involved um using a mixture of you know |
| 7559s | Dev commands and |
| 7561s | uh and and tools um cooked up the |
| 7568s | um Turned that that concept image of uh |
| 7572s | that little fishing Village into a |
| 7574s | reality and then it turned into a um |
| 7578s | title screen as |
| 7580s | well yeah |
| 7583s | to be fair shards did a lot of the work |
| 7585s | on this like it was a collaborative |
| 7588s | effort but shards really like just spent |
| 7591s | spent time on |
| 7592s | it adding over little details |
| 7596s | so he's our master |
| 7600s | builder um can we get a save file out of |
| 7602s | it I want to copy some of the |
| 7607s | buildings I guess so |
| 7613s | I think so I mean we got we got all of |
| 7615s | the other public kind of servers um can |
| 7618s | you paint water blocks roleplay oil |
| 7621s | spills um no so it's only taking in it |
| 7627s | it's only paintable for actual uh player |
| 7631s | built block |
| 7634s | sets um so you can't you can't paint |
| 7637s | natural |
| 7639s | tiles um |
| 7647s | getting some lag |
| 7654s | here it's looking generally fine there |
| 7656s | there's some there's some load things |
| 7658s | there but |
| 7659s | yeah |
| 7662s | uh but it's it's it's amazing it's cool |
| 7669s | um what was that question I saw |
| 7671s | something about the doobe um now that |
| 7673s | the doob is tier one will will H logs be |
| 7676s | harder to make as tier two um they'll |
| 7678s | have they'll have a new recipe um |
| 7680s | there's there's a um there's a dow Rod |
| 7684s | ingredient involved in it it's generally |
| 7686s | not going to overly complicate the |
| 7687s | recipe or move it out of like you know |
| 7690s | loggers can make it but it'll it'll just |
| 7694s | it'll be more than just wood blocks or |
| 7698s | you know wood material um it'll it'll |
| 7700s | have some refining process with |
| 7707s | them um what if you paint a mort Stone |
| 7710s | orange wouldn't it basically just be |
| 7713s | mortared Sandstone um yes it it was we |
| 7717s | touched about it uh we touched on it a |
| 7720s | bit earlier here with |
| 7723s | um um having the grent |
| 7728s | alpha um the the grade Alpha for the |
| 7731s | paint paint thickness basically um as |
| 7736s | selectable um and you could select the |
| 7739s | depth of and the thickness of the coat |
| 7743s | basically um to vary so you could have |
| 7746s | very different styles |
| 7748s | of uh shade |
| 7750s | impact so you could have a really thick |
| 7753s | coat and it would just be you know |
| 7754s | really writing over the uh the base |
| 7757s | material or you could reduce the alpha |
| 7760s | and it would uh |
| 7764s | um kind of shine through a lot more and |
| 7767s | you would see more detail of the origin |
| 7769s | block but you would just get like a |
| 7770s | slight Hue change of |
| 7773s | it um so there's a lot of finesse and |
| 7776s | and tweaks potential as well as tons and |
| 7779s | tons of |
| 7780s | creativity uh potential for |
| 7784s | this oh I just figured out you can pick |
| 7787s | a a blank block and it will you remove |
| 7790s | it it it worked now |
| 7793s | I was I was |
| 7794s | having I was having issues getting that |
| 7796s | to work on on the last build I was on |
| 7799s | but oh yeah maybe Mike fixed it with his |
| 7801s | last |
| 7803s | push nice it's in the Stream here |
| 7805s | somewhere so he'll probably answer yes |
| 7807s | or |
| 7808s | no um but as you can see here we have a |
| 7812s | functionality for when you have the dev |
| 7814s | paint tool at least if you pick color |
| 7818s | off a block and you pick it off a |
| 7820s | non-painted block |
| 7822s | um you can just kind of erase the color |
| 7824s | you |
| 7827s | have which is similar to the regular |
| 7830s | build Hammer Dev tool where you can just |
| 7833s | hit e on any material and it'll copy |
| 7835s | that material we we did and appli the |
| 7837s | same thing for |
| 7840s | paint yeah uh will paint be visible on |
| 7843s | the map or will it only display the |
| 7845s | default |
| 7847s | Block it's I don't think it has a um |
| 7856s | um a map up no because the |
| 7860s | um the the the map paints are set in the |
| 7863s | autogen for the block Color |
| 7867s | Picker it's it's potentially possible |
| 7871s | but it's not going to happen for |
| 7873s | 10.3 |
| 7878s | um because that would that that whole |
| 7880s | system would need to be kind |
| 7883s | of |
| 7886s | rejigged yeah I I think at the moment |
| 7888s | it's just kind of it's just |
| 7891s | picking uh or not picking it's assigning |
| 7893s | the |
| 7896s | um uh the map color for it and then it |
| 7899s | sets that map color for that block |
| 7910s | type every server is going to be filled |
| 7912s | with billboard ads for their shops on |
| 7914s | the 2D |
| 7917s | map everyone just has text like buy |
| 7919s | Stone |
| 7920s | here help me get rid of |
| 7925s | it dirt for |
| 7932s | free but no so now we finally got the |
| 7936s | painting stuff in order so we can |
| 7937s | actually show it off and I'm hoping |
| 7939s | everyone is eagerly in anticipating to |
| 7944s | cause eyes source for their neighbors |
| 7946s | with bright |
| 7948s | colors |
| 7955s | um what are you talking |
| 7957s | about it's beautiful it's |
| 7967s | beautiful it is absolutely gorgeous |
| 7970s | beautiful yellow building |
| 7977s | yeah it is very addictive though yeah it |
| 7980s | is especially playing with the dev |
| 7982s | tool it is uh very easy to kind of get |
| 7985s | lost in what you're doing and just kind |
| 7987s | of keep poking painting even if you're |
| 7989s | not painting anything sensible really |
| 7991s | just kind of just fun just just fun and |
| 7994s | satisfying to |
| 7995s | do um but yeah it it's it's U it's been |
| 8000s | a blast being involved in it and and |
| 8001s | Mike has done a tremendous amount of |
| 8004s | work towards getting this sorted out and |
| 8008s | done |
| 8010s | um and everyone involved in in making |
| 8012s | the shaders Sport and and just the |
| 8014s | technical background stuff um has been |
| 8018s | fantastic um so there you have the |
| 8021s | um you've got the wooden paint tool you |
| 8023s | got the mechanical one and then |
| 8027s | iron and then you've got the modern one |
| 8038s | can't do |
| 8042s | that you gave yourself paint yeah you |
| 8045s | gave yourself |
| 8050s | paint so yeah there be there'll be some |
| 8052s | animation speed differences and |
| 8058s | uh and some general General changes in |
| 8062s | quality of life things to uh to |
| 8064s | differentiate the painting tools as |
| 8068s | well |
| 8071s | um are we still looking at doing like |
| 8073s | line tool and field tool sort of stuff |
| 8076s | yes yeah yeah so support larger General |
| 8080s | larger interaction paints with um more |
| 8084s | control um we do want to add like a |
| 8087s | hammer view thing where he um |
| 8092s | um where you kind of like same as same |
| 8094s | as when you're building you're selecting |
| 8096s | the tile and then you're kind of |
| 8097s | selecting the tile you go you want to |
| 8099s | paint too |
| 8109s | um uh would it be tough to implement in |
| 8112s | painting rooms to give a partial tier |
| 8117s | bonus that is a very good question I |
| 8119s | think it it might be slightly |
| 8121s | complicated |
| 8123s | but |
| 8127s | um |
| 8129s | yeah there there are there are some |
| 8131s | potential technical issues with it |
| 8134s | because like the room calculator has no |
| 8137s | idea |
| 8138s | what uh like the data of the blocks it |
| 8141s | just knows what the blocks |
| 8146s | is um I'm assuming you're only going to |
| 8149s | be able to paint things on your property |
| 8151s | um you you well I mean you can paint as |
| 8154s | long as you're allowed to do other stuff |
| 8156s | in that |
| 8160s | area um but since paint will have a |
| 8164s | consumable component to it um I'm kind |
| 8168s | of |
| 8170s | presuming people are you're going to |
| 8172s | have people doing like graffiti or weird |
| 8174s | stuff but it at the same time it's also |
| 8177s | going to be a cost component to it so |
| 8179s | they're spending you know they're |
| 8180s | spending money |
| 8182s | to to to paint over stuff |
| 8185s | or uh paint stuff back and |
| 8189s | forth um is there a way to to remove the |
| 8191s | paint to restore its original texture um |
| 8195s | not not added directly at the moment |
| 8198s | outside of the dev tool but yes there |
| 8199s | will |
| 8201s | be since when have spending money |
| 8203s | stopped someone trolling that is very |
| 8206s | true um |
| 8218s | can you paint items such as bows or or |
| 8223s | like I'm guessing General tools uh hey |
| 8227s | defiler uh no it's just blocks and their |
| 8232s | block sets as well as the World |
| 8237s | objects uh |
| 8241s | I would never let Toby paint someone |
| 8244s | else Toby trying to make a |
| 8247s | McDonald's it's |
| 8249s | beautiful you did get hooked up on the |
| 8251s | yellow |
| 8253s | there |
| 8260s | yeah what's wrong with |
| 8263s | this dying clothes would be pretty cool |
| 8265s | um we have we have some ideas towards |
| 8267s | that end as well um for General clothing |
| 8271s | stuff and and |
| 8272s | like Avatar related things um but that |
| 8277s | is that is going to be um a Down the |
| 8280s | Line separate update |
| 8283s | thing |
| 8286s | um painting with solid colors looks |
| 8289s | really bad it removes all texture would |
| 8291s | be better to use tint instead um the |
| 8293s | general idea is to allow people |
| 8297s | both so being able being able to |
| 8299s | manipulate the um the AL value on the |
| 8302s | tool to allow you to paint in different |
| 8304s | kind of |
| 8307s | thickness |
| 8311s | uh input so you if you wanted yeah as |
| 8315s | you can see here um shifting that Alpha |
| 8319s | back um you can see how much of the yeah |
| 8323s | the enal opacity of the the color um |
| 8327s | yeah you can see that reducing that |
| 8328s | makes it Shine through significantly |
| 8330s | more the issue then is if you |
| 8333s | got uh block material that is really |
| 8335s | dark then light colors are going to be |
| 8337s | an absolute nightmare to paint on it but |
| 8339s | you might still want a white white house |
| 8341s | and we don't want |
| 8343s | to um we don't want to kind of enforce |
| 8347s | people to then have to tear down their |
| 8349s | entire house and rebuild it just for the |
| 8352s | sake of wanting a White |
| 8358s | House got to get that perfect shade of |
| 8360s | gray so my buildings looks even more |
| 8364s | boring that is one way to Target what |
| 8366s | you want to be |
| 8369s | painting um will there be a tool like |
| 8371s | the soil sampler to give you paint |
| 8373s | information on the |
| 8374s | Block um there's not a concrete plan for |
| 8379s | it at the moment but there is it is |
| 8383s | something that we are looking |
| 8385s | into um I kind of want |
| 8389s | it but we're still kind of discussing a |
| 8392s | bit in in what shape it would take and |
| 8394s | and how that interaction would happen |
| 8396s | what kind of details you get out of it |
| 8400s | um and so on because we do want to have |
| 8405s | we we we want to put Painting in a way |
| 8408s | where people that really go out of their |
| 8411s | way and kind of make a larger quantity |
| 8414s | of paints available um in specific |
| 8417s | Shades or get good at just general |
| 8419s | mixing things um and have cool colors or |
| 8423s | or you know vibrant specific |
| 8425s | variations um give them a a |
| 8428s | marketability for it and if you can just |
| 8431s | grab a paint you know like a paint |
| 8432s | analyzer tool and walk up to a paint |
| 8434s | block and |
| 8435s | go what is this paint block and then get |
| 8437s | exact |
| 8438s | values it removes a lot of that |
| 8442s | potential |
| 8449s | um so so you know there there's there's |
| 8452s | a |
| 8454s | few few questions in there on how much |
| 8458s | of that information we want to allow |
| 8460s | people to be able to |
| 8463s | acquire um versus Discovery and |
| 8466s | experimentation |
| 8468s | thing um so yeah as as for clarification |
| 8471s | on General balance and interaction for |
| 8474s | it um painting will be a new profession |
| 8477s | yes it will be what produces the |
| 8485s | um base paints and and surrounding areas |
| 8489s | um at the moment the mixing part is |
| 8492s | available for everyone but you still |
| 8494s | need to be a |
| 8495s | painter um to be able to make the base |
| 8498s | variations um as like the |
| 8501s | the the core ingredients to be able to |
| 8504s | make |
| 8507s | paint um and we have some other ideas as |
| 8509s | well to involve of it in general |
| 8512s | crafting recipes |
| 8514s | um for colorization of things and |
| 8523s | uh shift some of uh we got some some |
| 8526s | other decorative General decorative |
| 8529s | items and so on on the board as well to |
| 8534s | do |
| 8538s | um the on on the ex tion mechanic um the |
| 8543s | question Pops in on uh YouTube |
| 8549s | regarding um what we were talking about |
| 8552s | last stream on exhaustion um having it |
| 8555s | connected to calorie consumption makes |
| 8557s | it an absolute nightmare to try to |
| 8559s | balance in between the different |
| 8560s | professions and there are some that are |
| 8563s | explicitly penalized compared to |
| 8566s | others um regarding it hence why it's |
| 8568s | capped with time |
| 8573s | um and it and with it and having it |
| 8575s | linked to time also allows us to do |
| 8579s | certain optional things |
| 8582s | configurable whereas hard calorie limits |
| 8586s | would be so much more rigid and |
| 8590s | um non-customizable in the same |
| 8596s | sense uh going to tell our community |
| 8599s | that the meteor will only go with lasers |
| 8601s | the perfect shade of |
| 8607s | pink |
| 8614s | uh uh please let painting be bigger than |
| 8617s | paper Milling um paper Milling will will |
| 8619s | get its love um we have some we have |
| 8622s | some significant plants for a lot of |
| 8624s | them when when Rainbow truck Dennis Pops |
| 8628s | in you have a rainbow truck hidden in |
| 8631s | the |
| 8632s | way um but yeah so blacksmithing is |
| 8635s | going to have a lot more to do once 10.3 |
| 8637s | comes out because we are introducing |
| 8640s | maintenance and degradable things in |
| 8645s | general um tailoring will also get some |
| 8649s | love |
| 8651s | um for another update it's tailor |
| 8655s | tailoring kind of animal husbandry and |
| 8657s | and everything around in that as well as |
| 8658s | we want to deal with clothing decay |
| 8664s | um uh later on we'll see when we can |
| 8668s | manage to fit that in but it uh |
| 8671s | durability drain and maintenance and |
| 8672s | decay of objects SL entities and and |
| 8675s | items and whatnot is going to be |
| 8677s | affecting everything across the board |
| 8679s | it'll be affecting Vehicles it'll be |
| 8681s | affecting |
| 8682s | workstations um clothing and so on so |
| 8685s | forth to a varying degree and it'll be |
| 8688s | it's something that will be added |
| 8692s | um in segments across so 10.3 will |
| 8696s | include tool degradation as well as work |
| 8700s | station SL crafting |
| 8702s | table |
| 8705s | um durability drain um not for the table |
| 8708s | itself but for the the specific parts |
| 8710s | and consumables that are in it um and |
| 8713s | then we're going to add it to Vehicles |
| 8715s | potentially for |
| 8717s | 10.4 um clothing requires a bit more |
| 8722s | technical investigation to see how and |
| 8724s | and how we want to deal with that |
| 8726s | because we have the issue of um things |
| 8728s | like Vanity clothing and then like |
| 8730s | limited limited item wearables |
| 8733s | from things like event and so |
| 8736s | on |
| 8738s | um that has some complicated |
| 8741s | implications if wearables were |
| 8747s | degrading um so there's a few there's a |
| 8750s | few key puzzles that we need to figure |
| 8753s | out before that's introduced um hence |
| 8756s | why you know it's kind of on the back |
| 8758s | burner but it is being planned |
| 8759s | for |
| 8761s | um and as you can see things take their |
| 8764s | time it's you know we're not a super |
| 8767s | sized AAA |
| 8769s | company |
| 8772s | um but we are making our way |
| 8777s | forward Toby is going absolutely crazy |
| 8780s | with the bright color here |
| 8781s | now purple came in there |
| 8784s | yeah so this is just like purely the |
| 8787s | paint color so changed it so it doesn't |
| 8789s | show any of the underlying stuff at |
| 8793s | all I think we should be able to kind of |
| 8796s | adjust this |
| 8798s | value between zero and one I guess |
| 8804s | yeah do you have a ballpark figure for |
| 8807s | how much paint should cost per block |
| 8808s | Toby's been painting for an hour or so |
| 8810s | do does he need to be a millionaire to |
| 8812s | do |
| 8815s | it question no it the en the general |
| 8819s | goal is that painting should be fairly |
| 8821s | cheap in a lot of cases um now some some |
| 8826s | materials for certain pigments might be |
| 8828s | more expensive than others so specific |
| 8830s | color shade ranges might be differing a |
| 8834s | bit in uh in price |
| 8837s | ranges um depending on what they where |
| 8840s | their source if it's easily farmable or |
| 8842s | if it's something |
| 8844s | more um generated wildly and and so on |
| 8848s | so forth um but it's definitely going to |
| 8851s | be something that is |
| 8854s | widely shifted around during it during |
| 8857s | the play test stages in terms of costs |
| 8860s | because we definitely want people to |
| 8863s | have fun with it and interact with it um |
| 8866s | and you know mix play test |
| 8871s | um and not just be this kind of like |
| 8874s | deluxe end game I don't know what I'm |
| 8877s | going to spend my money on so I'm |
| 8878s | painting my house kind of thing um we |
| 8881s | want it to be like a a bit of an organic |
| 8884s | growing thing taking shape along |
| 8887s | as you might see someone painting their |
| 8889s | house and going like oh he has money to |
| 8891s | splurge on |
| 8894s | paint |
| 8896s | um but yes there's there's a lot of a |
| 8900s | lot of cost relations there in |
| 8902s | especially since it's going to be both |
| 8904s | organic and uh mineral driven pigments |
| 8907s | so some things are more static some |
| 8910s | things are going to be harder to come by |
| 8912s | even if they might be cheap to come |
| 8914s | by |
| 8919s | um um so yeah you know it it's the goal |
| 8922s | is the goal is not to have it expensive |
| 8926s | um in the general |
| 8932s | um yeah for for World object painting |
| 8934s | and like vehicles and so on it it's it's |
| 8938s | underway but it won't make it in 10.3 |
| 8941s | most likely |
| 8943s | um and it's generally related to front |
| 8946s | end stuff like how you're interacting |
| 8948s | with the world object and how you're how |
| 8950s | you're applying the paint and seeing |
| 8952s | what you're painting and where |
| 8955s | um that we're experimenting with |
| 8958s | so uh probably not in 10.3 but it is |
| 8962s | most definitely going to |
| 8969s | come it's one of those things where I |
| 8971s | can just calmly state that it's going to |
| 8975s | happen it's happening it it is going to |
| 8978s | happen it it's probably not going to |
| 8980s | happen from 10.3 but it's most |
| 8981s | definitely going to happen so you are |
| 8983s | going to have the option to paint those |
| 8985s | trucks and get those get those paintable |
| 8989s | paintable things going and it's not just |
| 8991s | going to be trucks it's going to be the |
| 8992s | steam trucks you're going to have you |
| 8994s | know you can |
| 8995s | have the the spqr purple that Toby is |
| 9000s | rumaging around with right now for uh |
| 9002s | you know an excavator or or whatever |
| 9005s | whatever your heart's |
| 9010s | desire uh it's nice yeah uh go so the |
| 9017s | enal uh it'd be nice if you can somehow |
| 9020s | filter which blocks you want to paint |
| 9021s | with the paint count you don't paint the |
| 9022s | blocks you don't want |
| 9025s | um yeah the the general idea is to |
| 9027s | introduce that uh line slash you know |
| 9030s | point line floor uh fill selection types |
| 9034s | that you have for your build Hammer to |
| 9036s | also be applicable with the paint |
| 9041s | spray um so you can actually |
| 9044s | deterministically decide where you want |
| 9046s | to be painting or you know if you want |
| 9048s | to paint specific details but you don't |
| 9049s | want to risk painting all over the |
| 9053s | place um it needs a block outline I |
| 9055s | think it it is outlining the Block |
| 9057s | You've selected but because it's green I |
| 9059s | think it might be or is it not outlining |
| 9061s | it it's not out it should be outlining |
| 9064s | it that would be a |
| 9066s | bug it's also happening with the dev |
| 9068s | tool so it's darkening it slightly yeah |
| 9072s | it's a bug yeah that that that's just |
| 9074s | that that is just bug don't |
| 9078s | worry yeah sh should we have a Civic |
| 9081s | integration to be able to ban ugly |
| 9082s | colors and enforce color styles um that |
| 9085s | was that was what was requested |
| 9089s | Dennis ban the color |
| 9093s | green that depends would you consider |
| 9095s | this |
| 9098s | ugly would you ban |
| 9102s | this |
| 9104s | uh we're only introducing the ability to |
| 9107s | paint and people immediately start |
| 9108s | thinking about how to prevent it |
| 9115s | oh yeah regarding that bug the bug |
| 9117s | doesn't exist in staging |
| 9119s | 2896 the question is which build that is |
| 9121s | is |
| 9122s | it I can see what block is highlighted |
| 9124s | the question is is the bug introduced on |
| 9127s | Toby's updated Branch or is or or has it |
| 9130s | been fixed |
| 9133s | since that is always the |
| 9136s | Curiosity um how will buy and selling |
| 9138s | paints work in stores |
| 9142s | um it'll be chaos it'll be outright |
| 9146s | Carnage um no so paint |
| 9150s | lists in varying degrees and I believe |
| 9155s | at the moment it's showing |
| 9158s | the can't |
| 9160s | remember Mike may be able to help out |
| 9162s | with that I think it was listing with |
| 9164s | the RGB as |
| 9166s | filters but I'm also not sure now that |
| 9169s | I'm thinking about it |
| 9180s | if you pop down a store and add the |
| 9182s | paint I I wonder if it's going |
| 9185s | to cause |
| 9195s | chaos right |
| 9197s | here uh regarding store selling paint we |
| 9200s | have is when you hover over the icon on |
| 9202s | the tool tab on the tool tip to show the |
| 9204s | like a big window preview of the |
| 9207s | shade |
| 9212s | um I think I think it might be |
| 9214s | displayable in the tool |
| 9217s | tip you need to own you need to have it |
| 9219s | on on property as |
| 9221s | well yeah I'm scared that if I claim |
| 9224s | this is a might crash everything do you |
| 9227s | do you have a settlement placed |
| 9228s | somewhere |
| 9231s | or did oh you you you claimed it with |
| 9233s | claim |
| 9234s | right yeah oh that that is |
| 9241s | exciting so what am I doing paint and |
| 9243s | paint |
| 9246s | bucket |
| 9248s | hey it's a different different is the |
| 9251s | paint pocket not showing up or did not |
| 9254s | showing up |
| 9256s | o is it running with is it running with |
| 9258s | the unhiding |
| 9263s | um yeah I think so because I |
| 9264s | [Music] |
| 9269s | can did you run it with in |
| 9273s | here get in |
| 9276s | here |
| 9279s | right well |
| 9283s | um as uh are you able oh yeah pull pull |
| 9286s | it pull it back into the full screen |
| 9290s | there you go you see the uh the the the |
| 9293s | solid bricks |
| 9298s | um uh solid B things so yeah in um if |
| 9302s | you pull up the the skill |
| 9304s | menu you have a new profession selection |
| 9307s | which is somewhere in |
| 9309s | there um one of the one of the question |
| 9313s | marks uh that's the |
| 9317s | one still it's very Roman |
| 9321s | there with the uh yellow and |
| 9325s | purple um so we've got scientist coming |
| 9329s | in as a new profession parent and then |
| 9332s | we are putting uh moved over oil |
| 9334s | drilling into |
| 9336s | it um oil drill might get renamed at |
| 9341s | some point perhaps we'll |
| 9343s | see um and then we have painting in |
| 9346s | under it |
| 9351s | and painting wool it'll absorb a few of |
| 9355s | the |
| 9356s | recipes that are non-specific at the |
| 9360s | moment um there's still a few recipes |
| 9363s | that are on some temporary locations so |
| 9366s | they're not you know it's not accurately |
| 9368s | depicting what it what can be crafted |
| 9371s | and so |
| 9372s | on um so it'll it'll do a few more |
| 9376s | things um initially and then we're going |
| 9377s | to |
| 9378s | have some more stuff coming to it in |
| 9381s | 10.4 um and just kind of keep polishing |
| 9384s | on it and add |
| 9386s | things um might add some decorative |
| 9389s | pieces in there as well |
| 9392s | um and a few things um the scientist is |
| 9395s | just the actual parent profession for it |
| 9398s | so similar to how like Carpenter is for |
| 9400s | carpentry and logging and it's just the |
| 9403s | kind of the collective |
| 9405s | profession for it |
| 9410s | um any any clue on when the logger lucky |
| 9413s | logger will be put in and work um we |
| 9416s | have some plans for like overhauling the |
| 9418s | entirety of the perk |
| 9420s | system um and the reason why some of |
| 9423s | those haven't been fixed yet is because |
| 9424s | they have some technical drawbacks that |
| 9427s | just doesn't really play nice without |
| 9432s | it um and but once that's done which |
| 9436s | should be done before |
| 9438s | 1.0 um we also have have some plans to |
| 9441s | redo um the general effects and and |
| 9445s | restrictions for a large portion of the |
| 9447s | crafting perks across the |
| 9449s | board um to be more of a uniqueness to |
| 9453s | each profession rather than just kind of |
| 9455s | the same for all the crafting |
| 9466s | professions you're looking for that per |
| 9468s | perfect shade of blue again |
| 9475s | and you can see how teal can be multiple |
| 9479s | different types of |
| 9483s | colors that's |
| 9490s | working oh what happened |
| 9493s | there very good question |
| 9500s | um alpen glow the um the speed of |
| 9503s | interaction is in the tool so if |
| 9509s | you um if you compare the wooden paint |
| 9512s | sprayer with the modern paint sprayer um |
| 9516s | one is doing like its own kind of |
| 9518s | sequence of it and then the other one's |
| 9521s | just going to kind of you know let you |
| 9523s | free form paint as he's doing with the |
| 9525s | dev tool right now |
| 9530s | um can glass be stained and painted no |
| 9532s | unfortunately not at the |
| 9534s | moment we we'll probably look into it |
| 9537s | but the frames are paintable but the |
| 9539s | glass is just plain glass material it's |
| 9542s | not going to be shade at the |
| 9551s | moment it is turning into a |
| 9555s | very a very colorful building |
| 9564s | uh four usability commands from admin |
| 9568s | side of |
| 9569s | things um you have some new commands to |
| 9572s | spawn paint buckets with different |
| 9573s | shades directly from RGB input |
| 9578s | values yeah paint |
| 9581s | RGB and then you can specify the color |
| 9584s | range and the quantity of buckets as |
| 9587s | well |
| 9596s | maybe painters canum less paint when |
| 9598s | applying it |
| 9603s | um everything like paint paint two |
| 9607s | block |
| 9609s | um is a one:1 ratio so you can't really |
| 9613s | fractionalize |
| 9615s | that it it's kind of like you know think |
| 9618s | of arrows for a bow you can't really |
| 9620s | fire half a |
| 9621s | bow |
| 9624s | um but yeah so painting will have a |
| 9627s | calorie consumption per interaction |
| 9630s | similar to the other thing oh yeah alpen |
| 9633s | GL that that is definitely something you |
| 9634s | can do |
| 9636s | um but you can't fractionalize it so |
| 9638s | either it will you know not consume it |
| 9641s | or it will consume it so |
| 9644s | on |
| 9647s | um every going to uh are we ever going |
| 9650s | to add more expansions to the farming |
| 9651s | industry like beekeeping um well a lot |
| 9655s | of that is probably going to be related |
| 9658s | to the animal husbandry thing since it's |
| 9660s | kind of a animal husbandry will will be |
| 9663s | its own profession but it's also quite |
| 9666s | un encompassing area of focus |
| 9669s | for what we have plans for it in regards |
| 9671s | to like anything related to animal |
| 9675s | interactions be it you know bees or |
| 9678s | whatnot um |
| 9681s | as we animals powering different |
| 9683s | Machinery |
| 9685s | um we'll see how far and and where we |
| 9688s | take it it could get very complicated |
| 9691s | but |
| 9692s | it |
| 9694s | um there's some there's some interesting |
| 9697s | ideas for |
| 9703s | it what are you up to |
| 9708s | now just playing around with the uh RGB |
| 9711s | values |
| 9715s | ah yeah I was I was I was thinking that |
| 9717s | as well Dennis it's like is he painting |
| 9719s | a giant Austrian flag mural in the back |
| 9727s | there no I don't |
| 9730s | uh know that flag it it was Austria |
| 9733s | there for a |
| 9738s | moment no I'm from Australia not |
| 9748s | Austria but yeah so you know painting |
| 9751s | can uh you kind of just get lost in |
| 9756s | it |
| 9762s | um you really can |
| 9765s | mhm we've been we've been going at we've |
| 9767s | been going at the painting now for like |
| 9769s | what one and a half half hour |
| 9771s | something |
| 9773s | really I guess so yeah |
| 9777s | W and what have I got to show for |
| 9782s | it this beautiful |
| 9786s | building God is not going to be happy |
| 9788s | with |
| 9790s | me you put a lot of love into this |
| 9793s | one and then you come with a paint gun |
| 9795s | and it and it |
| 9797s | looks yeah |
| 9800s | beautiful is the building is the |
| 9802s | building a soft play |
| 9806s | center piece of art that is that |
| 9811s | is Art |
| 9815s | yeah based on actual Australian housing |
| 9826s | y it uh it is colorful enough to be to |
| 9830s | be a a playground thing um |
| 9836s | no no it's it's it's really cool seeing |
| 9839s | seeing it finally come into life and and |
| 9841s | being able to show it off and uh kind of |
| 9843s | go through what steps to get to it |
| 9848s | um and everything kind of surrounding |
| 9852s | it um any thoughts of adding in matte |
| 9856s | gloss metallic Etc type paints later on |
| 9860s | yeah I would like to do |
| 9866s | that it be some interesting I mean it |
| 9869s | would just it would just be different |
| 9870s | fields with with a different type of |
| 9872s | base paint |
| 9873s | right just taking yeah we could just |
| 9876s | more values than just the |
| 9878s | colors like at the at the simplest side |
| 9881s | we could just kind of adjust the |
| 9884s | metallic |
| 9887s | roughness um we could start doing |
| 9891s | like fancy shaders with clear coat and |
| 9895s | metallic flex and stuff like that be |
| 9899s | cool yeah um contract stipulation to |
| 9903s | allow painting access only uh so you |
| 9906s | could hire someone to paint your house |
| 9908s | um it's a good point I think there |
| 9910s | should probably be a contract for it uh |
| 9914s | or a contractable source for and and I |
| 9917s | believe they should be autop pulling |
| 9919s | from Civics so uh paint block SL remove |
| 9922s | paint is probably going to be a Civic |
| 9925s | trigger just from the interaction |
| 9927s | standpoint and then from there players |
| 9929s | can just go crazy with |
| 9933s | it are you are you hiding hiding all the |
| 9936s | shiny colors and just yeah I'm feeling |
| 9942s | self-consciousness going more of a |
| 9944s | neutral tone just don't just don't hire |
| 9947s | Toby to paint your house |
| 9951s | unless you want a really cool |
| 9953s | house it'll be colorful if nothing else |
| 9958s | yeah what's wrong with a bit of |
| 9961s | color see look how boring this is |
| 9969s | now um can you paint any furniture slash |
| 9972s | what about doors um it falls under under |
| 9975s | the same kind of delay as Vehicles as |
| 9979s | they're all World objects |
| 9981s | so you will be able to paint all of it |
| 9984s | to a certain |
| 9985s | degree |
| 9987s | um based yeah B based on specific |
| 9990s | channel so you you you'll have up to up |
| 9993s | to three potential color choices slash |
| 9996s | details settings on each |
| 9999s | entity |
| 10003s | um but it's not going to make it for uh |
| 10007s | for 10.3 |
| 10009s | but it it is definitely happening um now |
| 10012s | that |
| 10013s | said all of the assets might not be |
| 10016s | paintable from the offset once that's |
| 10019s | released |
| 10021s | um because it takes quite a bit of work |
| 10024s | to go through each of them to make sure |
| 10026s | that they're set up to be paintable and |
| 10027s | which parts are |
| 10029s | paintable um in the prefabs and then |
| 10032s | from you know Unity interaction side of |
| 10035s | it um so it might be that a whole bunch |
| 10038s | of things are |
| 10040s | paintable and some aren't |
| 10044s | um but yeah that's that's a a different |
| 10047s | topic to uh to go over kind of see |
| 10051s | probably list which objects are |
| 10053s | paintable or which aren't depending on |
| 10055s | which list is the bigger |
| 10059s | list um initially and then you know at |
| 10062s | at the end of it everything will be |
| 10063s | paintable in to some |
| 10067s | degree yeah |
| 10071s | we'll probably prioritize things that |
| 10072s | kind of make sense like Vehicles will be |
| 10074s | a big one to do first and |
| 10077s | then just objects that you see around a |
| 10081s | lot yeah um kind of prioritizing that |
| 10085s | way are you guys having to go into each |
| 10086s | of those assets to set them up for for |
| 10088s | painting yeah um it it varies a little |
| 10093s | bit because like certain entities are |
| 10097s | very are just like sh variant of a |
| 10100s | parent one and then you just need to fix |
| 10101s | the parent one um so for things like |
| 10105s | ashor Furniture XYZ you only need to |
| 10108s | change the parent version and then it'll |
| 10110s | just propagate to the sub |
| 10112s | ones um but while they are poking their |
| 10115s | nose into those assets and their |
| 10118s | prefabs they're also taking the time to |
| 10120s | clean them up um standardize them |
| 10123s | and kind of fix yeah add LS and fix up |
| 10127s | all the technical |
| 10130s | um technical bits and pieces for |
| 10133s | optimization purposes and redoing some |
| 10135s | of the assets while they're still while |
| 10138s | they're digging into them um the |
| 10141s | windmill being a good example or the um |
| 10144s | the windmill the water |
| 10145s | wheel |
| 10148s | um and uh so on |
| 10154s | um we redone the whole |
| 10156s | asset um |
| 10160s | yeah and it's yeah more optimized so |
| 10162s | it'll um especially when you see a like |
| 10166s | a lot of them will Clump together it'll |
| 10170s | help |
| 10176s | performance um does painting over a |
| 10179s | block with the same color use a paint |
| 10181s | no right now he's using the dev the the |
| 10184s | dev tool for it so it um yeah if I'm |
| 10188s | using paint |
| 10189s | it'll it'll prevent you from painting |
| 10191s | over it um we might tweak it out a |
| 10194s | little bit so it's more of a it doesn't |
| 10196s | consume paint but |
| 10198s | it's |
| 10201s | um increased performance downside people |
| 10204s | with borderline RGB vomit vomi ified |
| 10210s | houses uh armored Tois looking like he's |
| 10213s | falling asleep uh it it's probably not |
| 10217s | too far off because it he he got woken |
| 10220s | up way early in the morning for |
| 10223s | this |
| 10225s | yeah and I'm also just zoning Out |
| 10231s | Paintings |
| 10233s | up keep your back straight drink some |
| 10238s | water it's okay it it's what 9 a.m. 8 |
| 10243s | a.m. 7 |
| 10245s | 7:47 it's almost 8:00 |
| 10248s | a.m. yeah so i' probably be waking up |
| 10251s | around now anyway I guess maybe a little |
| 10254s | bit |
| 10256s | later this is fun though look at this it |
| 10259s | is you paint one whole half of your |
| 10261s | house one color and then the other half |
| 10264s | a two-faced |
| 10265s | house |
| 10269s | [Music] |
| 10272s | yeah hey Toby can you wake up to answer |
| 10274s | the question on the stream no I'll paint |
| 10282s | accurate um you me you mentioned |
| 10284s | windmills I'd really like to have large |
| 10286s | windmills to recreate more believable |
| 10287s | windmills like the Netherland ones like |
| 10289s | really really really big bladed ones um |
| 10292s | it's actually something we're doing with |
| 10293s | the wind turbines among other things |
| 10295s | like the blades are that asset is just |
| 10298s | so much |
| 10299s | bigger |
| 10300s | um and it's something that we're doing |
| 10302s | for for a lot of these kind |
| 10306s | of General World object things |
| 10312s | um the water wheel is one that's coming |
| 10314s | in that's we we made it bigger right |
| 10318s | it's wider yeah it's it's |
| 10321s | wider |
| 10323s | um so the the wind turbines um I popped |
| 10327s | them up on on a on a |
| 10330s | stream I don't know which one two two |
| 10332s | streams ago three streams ago something |
| 10334s | went over a bit of performance |
| 10336s | performance related things um showed up |
| 10339s | some of your |
| 10341s | uh some of your |
| 10343s | optimization data |
| 10345s | screenshots uh comparing frame rates and |
| 10348s | and whatnot between |
| 10350s | uh between the old wind turbine which |
| 10353s | we're seeing on the screen here on |
| 10356s | release versus the new one that's like |
| 10360s | three times the size more details and |
| 10365s | has four times the optimization |
| 10372s | um every see if I can find it as it's |
| 10375s | probably buried under a lot of other |
| 10377s | screenshots and |
| 10379s | discussions uh ever going to add a |
| 10381s | waterp powerered turbine like being able |
| 10383s | to build a |
| 10385s | dam |
| 10389s | um hydroelectric is is difficult due to |
| 10393s | how the water kind of |
| 10395s | behaves um if it was more more of a a |
| 10401s | kinetically volumetric water |
| 10404s | that kind of ran all over the place it |
| 10407s | would be easier but |
| 10409s | it's flashbacks to Todd Howard saying 16 |
| 10412s | times the |
| 10417s | detail |
| 10419s | uh no but there there is ever G to make |
| 10423s | ever going to make the water behave it's |
| 10425s | it's been behaving better and better |
| 10427s | with each update now I think |
| 10429s | we're we're getting more and more stuff |
| 10432s | together but like water in a |
| 10436s | in a cube boxal world is always going to |
| 10439s | be a bit wonky in in one way or another |
| 10442s | either completely breaking |
| 10445s | realism um anticipation with like you |
| 10448s | know free floating water Block in the |
| 10449s | sky kind of thing |
| 10452s | versus are you not able to create new |
| 10455s | source blocks in general and then all |
| 10457s | you have like |
| 10459s | you're destroying the original ones and |
| 10461s | then that water is gone from that world |
| 10463s | forever um there's a lot of lot of |
| 10467s | complicated issues with water |
| 10469s | manipulation in general um yet still |
| 10472s | retaining water as a |
| 10475s | crateria |
| 10477s | for geological |
| 10481s | restrictions |
| 10485s | um and there's some parts of that that |
| 10488s | we definitely don't want to remove hence |
| 10489s | my water isn't you know carriable with a |
| 10492s | bucket and you can just place a source |
| 10493s | block all over the |
| 10495s | place |
| 10497s | um so there's a lot of design that goes |
| 10500s | into dealing with th with those types of |
| 10503s | issues |
| 10504s | where our Target design idea might kind |
| 10509s | of clash a bit with |
| 10512s | what's |
| 10515s | conveniently a quality of life thing and |
| 10517s | interactable um uh also reminds me those |
| 10521s | those decorative wall mounted pieces |
| 10523s | needs |
| 10524s | that yeah just think of |
| 10527s | that they are a bit |
| 10530s | floaty |
| 10531s | mhm I think none of them have that set |
| 10534s | up no I don't think they're set |
| 10538s | up |
| 10539s | okay the the glass bulbs have it I |
| 10544s | think um I think so um um yeah no no |
| 10549s | Lava |
| 10550s | buckets |
| 10553s | um but no it it's gradually expanding it |
| 10556s | we you |
| 10557s | know stuff stuff is being o those are |
| 10568s | pretty uh but yes you know there there's |
| 10570s | there's detail to it there's some |
| 10572s | technical limitations to it um and then |
| 10574s | there's also kind of the Clash versus |
| 10576s | player usability versus design |
| 10578s | complexity and and |
| 10583s | um kind of mixture to it |
| 10587s | um but uh yeah no the the painting is |
| 10592s | awesome it just adds so much so much |
| 10594s | vibrancy to |
| 10598s | it uh s |
| 10600s | yes uh yes you'll you'll be able to do |
| 10603s | you'll be able to paint everything |
| 10606s | um vehicles and World objects will will |
| 10608s | be |
| 10609s | coming um at a later update um so for |
| 10612s | 10.3 it's only going to be blocks and |
| 10615s | and placeable |
| 10617s | blocks |
| 10619s | um but |
| 10621s | uh yeah it 10.4 will will probably |
| 10625s | introduce the uh the enal world object |
| 10628s | painting and then each subsequent update |
| 10631s | will have more |
| 10633s | paintable objects being fixed and and |
| 10636s | hooked up |
| 10640s | uh when will Lumber building options get |
| 10642s | some love H log has like two times the |
| 10645s | options same for Brick and I'm presuming |
| 10647s | we are talking Lumber block |
| 10650s | forms totally yeah yeah there's rubs |
| 10654s | actually looking into some stuff for the |
| 10656s | lumber at the moment |
| 10658s | which hopefully carries across to other |
| 10660s | blocks |
| 10662s | so different types of approaches to the |
| 10664s | roof um more pre placement of different |
| 10668s | wall types |
| 10670s | um that sort of thing so I know block |
| 10673s | blocks take quite a bit of time to work |
| 10676s | on um and we don't get the like the |
| 10680s | opportunity to kind of dedicate a lot of |
| 10681s | time to them that |
| 10683s | often so hopefully that's something we |
| 10686s | can do more of um but yeah Lumber is |
| 10689s | definitely one that we're we're looking |
| 10691s | at at the moment |
| 10693s | so what would you |
| 10696s | like what what form you're looking |
| 10700s | for post suggestions for them in listing |
| 10704s | in on the cany |
| 10705s | please so you know |
| 10709s | specify um specify specify the type of |
| 10713s | material and the form you would like to |
| 10715s | see preferably if you have multiple |
| 10718s | suggestions |
| 10720s | preferably keeping keeping it in one |
| 10723s | post like if you're doing like block |
| 10725s | form suggestions for for you know in |
| 10729s | this case um drop him and any and all |
| 10732s | suggestions for that block for the block |
| 10735s | set in the same kind of thread um will |
| 10738s | make it a lot more readable but yeah |
| 10740s | absolutely pop in over on on the cany |
| 10743s | page and uh go |
| 10749s | nuts getting some getting some solid |
| 10753s | uh General player feedback on which |
| 10756s | block set they think are missing for |
| 10758s | forms or or kind of which you know which |
| 10761s | form types if it's like specific corner |
| 10764s | or inward outward upwards downwards and |
| 10768s | half blocks and and so on so forth just |
| 10771s | pop in any and all suggestions in there |
| 10773s | it'll help us keep it them tracked um |
| 10776s | and it'll also help people kind of |
| 10778s | voting on them and weighing them |
| 10780s | in um |
| 10783s | yeah really helps us out yeah the other |
| 10785s | thing I'd like the other thing I'd like |
| 10787s | um is kind of like feedback on free |
| 10790s | placement versus just Auto building |
| 10794s | so it's like excuse me yeah setting up |
| 10798s | like rules to kind of cover every |
| 10800s | situation is tricky and sometimes not |
| 10803s | possible so you end up with like um |
| 10806s | placements that you you can't get the |
| 10808s | block to rotate properly you can't get |
| 10809s | the exact form but then if we kind of |
| 10812s | expose every form is selectable that's |
| 10815s | going to be a lot to kind of manage as |
| 10817s | well |
| 10819s | but I'm kind of open to how people want |
| 10821s | to uh like handle that if we want to get |
| 10825s | some votes going on it or something like |
| 10827s | that maybe we can kind of mix the two so |
| 10830s | we have like an auto Builder that does |
| 10832s | very like very simple stuff and then if |
| 10834s | you want to use the more advanced |
| 10836s | forms they're freely placeable and |
| 10840s | rotatable something like that it's kind |
| 10843s | of what Rob's playing with at the moment |
| 10845s | so we're kind of like catching up on |
| 10846s | that |
| 10848s | almost every day |
| 10851s | to see what works what doesn't work |
| 10857s | so nice cool to hear hopefully hopefully |
| 10861s | that answers the uh the general |
| 10863s | questions surrounding block forms |
| 10866s | in can how and and |
| 10874s | what a lot of a lot of the rework of the |
| 10878s | block oh the brick blocks have been |
| 10879s | great would like to see that see that |
| 10882s | approach being applied to other blocks |
| 10883s | as |
| 10891s | well uh Satsuki a trigger definitely is |
| 10895s | good but it won't be a block type per se |
| 10897s | but rather spe placed down as a rotated |
| 10900s | selectable block |
| 10901s | form um the seel the selection will |
| 10904s | simply be choosen through a procedural |
| 10906s | helper sub routine |
| 10908s | um I I think it's down to like anytime |
| 10912s | you try to kind of |
| 10915s | automate what's connecting to |
| 10918s | where you have to cover like all cases |
| 10921s | across the board to make it play |
| 10924s | nice |
| 10927s | um whereas if you have direct manual |
| 10931s | control over |
| 10932s | it it adds a layer of complexity because |
| 10935s | you then have to expose every single |
| 10937s | type of block form for that |
| 10941s | form um so in terms of like a wall you'd |
| 10944s | need the singular wall piece you'd need |
| 10947s | the T intersection and then a cross |
| 10951s | intersection um as individually selected |
| 10954s | block for |
| 10957s | types um yeah |
| 10960s | so soar to what the Adobe is kind of |
| 10965s | doing which I think you you should de |
| 10968s | last yeah yeah that's so this has got a |
| 10971s | lot more options for like actually |
| 10974s | placing |
| 10978s | down because then the issue comes in |
| 10980s | with when you have complete total |
| 10983s | control um the whole construction menu |
| 10986s | gets really really filled really |
| 10988s | quickly on just a few different block |
| 10991s | form |
| 10994s | types so as we can see if you're holding |
| 10997s | up the build menu you have what is it |
| 10999s | six entries five |
| 11001s | entries yeah six entries just for this |
| 11004s | just for the single wall |
| 11007s | type so if you then have say a thin wall |
| 11011s | versus a thick wall versus an offset |
| 11015s | wall um it's 18 form types that you need |
| 11018s | to browse and switch |
| 11020s | through and that then that suddenly kind |
| 11023s | of fills up that whole UI very quickly |
| 11026s | we have some ideas on on |
| 11029s | how we want to approach if we do change |
| 11033s | it |
| 11037s | um to deal with that in terms of like |
| 11040s | yeah like like suggestions coming in on |
| 11042s | Twitch like subcategories slash um |
| 11045s | scrolling to change rotation for it or |
| 11048s | or and and so on so forth um so there |
| 11052s | are there are |
| 11053s | some |
| 11055s | um there are some general General ideas |
| 11057s | there to |
| 11060s | uh um to improve quality of life |
| 11063s | controlling the a large quantity of |
| 11066s | block forms |
| 11068s | um if we do allow you to like complete |
| 11071s | manual autonomy over how you're placing |
| 11074s | them um as I know a lot of a lot of |
| 11076s | times the auto Builder just doesn't fill |
| 11079s | and cover the basis for what people |
| 11081s | might be wanting to do with certain |
| 11083s | things like you can you know you can do |
| 11086s | weird artwork or what ever and then the |
| 11089s | autobuilder just mocks it up for you |
| 11091s | because it wants to be connecting to the |
| 11094s | XYZ I know in particular the roof |
| 11097s | Builder tends to do that um when it's |
| 11099s | not building against other roof |
| 11103s | types but like a roof type bird into a |
| 11106s | wall segment or a glass segment and then |
| 11107s | suddenly the Builder doesn't really know |
| 11109s | what to do and covering all of those |
| 11111s | cases gets really complicated really |
| 11112s | quickly |
| 11126s | um is this the final texture of the |
| 11129s | Adobe blocks was hoping it would be more |
| 11131s | yellow SL sandish |
| 11136s | colored um I think it does need a little |
| 11138s | bit |
| 11140s | more work yeah so I think it's not not |
| 11144s | final final but final is |
| 11155s | yeah I guess it's more about not so much |
| 11157s | the texture per se but more The Tint of |
| 11159s | the texture I |
| 11160s | guess |
| 11169s | yeah yeah having it having it a little |
| 11171s | bit more of a it's actually good if you |
| 11173s | you pull up yeah if you if you pull up |
| 11176s | the um the floor versus the the block or |
| 11179s | the |
| 11180s | cube |
| 11182s | yeah that dry yeah it has a bit more of |
| 11186s | a a dried kind of frequently walked on |
| 11190s | look of |
| 11193s | it yeah if you don't like the color of |
| 11195s | your Adobe you now have the option to |
| 11196s | paint |
| 11200s | it yes it'si any any block form is any |
| 11204s | any block that has the attribute for |
| 11206s | being painted uh um is |
| 11209s | paintable which also on there go yeah um |
| 11213s | so on the on the modding side of things |
| 11216s | uh yeah that that looks more right um on |
| 11218s | the modding side of things there is a |
| 11219s | new attribute for declaring a block to |
| 11222s | be paintable or a block form to be |
| 11226s | paintable um and if you don't want |
| 11229s | specific blocks to be paintable you can |
| 11232s | also remove it um and override the |
| 11235s | vanilla files for it |
| 11239s | um so you know if you have you want |
| 11242s | specific block types to not be paintable |
| 11244s | you can do that |
| 11246s | um through overriding with mods um and |
| 11251s | if you're adding if you're adding blocks |
| 11254s | to the game it's not a complicated |
| 11256s | process to get the block forms to be |
| 11258s | paintable |
| 11261s | so should be fairly simple |
| 11285s | uh since we almost have the Adobe now |
| 11287s | there's no chance for we having half |
| 11289s | Timber as well was playing was playing |
| 11291s | manner Lords for the last dot dot dot |
| 11293s | the houses there looks awesome um I |
| 11295s | haven't had the opportunity to dive into |
| 11297s | that yet |
| 11298s | been |
| 11300s | been interesting one but |
| 11304s | uh I mean half Timber is is kind of |
| 11307s | human |
| 11308s | like isn't |
| 11311s | it or or am I being |
| 11315s | confused half |
| 11318s | Timber like logs C is that what you're |
| 11322s | talking |
| 11326s | about I'm I'm being |
| 11329s | uh oh yeah okay so it's more of a more |
| 11333s | of a defined Lumber thing it it would |
| 11335s | probably be more lumber like Lumber |
| 11340s | forms um so |
| 11343s | on uh tier 2 Lumber the the |
| 11348s | floor um you have those like Cross Beam |
| 11351s | did like the exterior Cross Beam wooden |
| 11354s | pieces |
| 11358s | yeah those things these ones yeah yeah |
| 11360s | so those on you know like old British |
| 11365s | styled uh you know Med uh medieval |
| 11369s | housing things like plaster things and |
| 11372s | they have those like cross beams to to |
| 11375s | keep structural integrity and |
| 11377s | things oh yep yep yep that's what you're |
| 11379s | talking about I know what you talk that |
| 11382s | now yeah but I think that would that |
| 11383s | would be more in line with a u like a |
| 11386s | lumber form Maybe |
| 11388s | since they're they're kind of half |
| 11390s | sneakingly in |
| 11401s | there yeah half Timber is a Timber log |
| 11403s | frame with Clay slash Adobe |
| 11409s | inside or or you know it's framework and |
| 11413s | then plastered covered which is great |
| 11416s | for insulation |
| 11434s | pretty funky it is pretty funky some |
| 11437s | some some neat color selections here you |
| 11440s | you and that you and that |
| 11441s | purple IM immediately going immediately |
| 11444s | going for that |
| 11448s | almost some some donut thing going on |
| 11452s | there I might be |
| 11455s | hungry so wheels of cheeses and donuts |
| 11458s | that's going going through Toby's head |
| 11460s | right |
| 11462s | now um but no it's uh I don't know do |
| 11467s | you are you are you feeling kind of |
| 11469s | content |
| 11471s | happy I guess so everyone made fun of my |
| 11474s | bit my |
| 11476s | painting so |
| 11479s | beautiful beautiful |
| 11483s | artwork uh see Toby there's no glass in |
| 11487s | the new window no glass can we remove |
| 11490s | the glass from the Hun |
| 11492s | logs it'll be easier to just add Glass |
| 11494s | to this one |
| 11496s | [Laughter] |
| 11499s | though |
| 11501s | yeah I think that makes sense kind of |
| 11504s | it's always been weird that you have |
| 11506s | glass it's a separate thing but then |
| 11509s | glass is included in all those other |
| 11512s | yeah the the only the only one that's |
| 11514s | kind of difficult for the glass thing |
| 11516s | for removal I I I still want like brick |
| 11520s | embedded |
| 11523s | glass but I don't know may maybe maybe |
| 11527s | look at simpler frames for the glass |
| 11532s | and rip them out and just leave glass to |
| 11536s | glass radical idea |
| 11541s | you'd lose the |
| 11543s | grills but |
| 11547s | uh |
| 11553s | maybe |
| 11555s | maybe I think it's one of those one of |
| 11558s | those things that Toby Toby's going to |
| 11559s | simmer on and |
| 11561s | then something will |
| 11563s | happen either that one gets glass orass |
| 11567s | skip |
| 11573s | through but yeah see we have you have |
| 11576s | those this just like |
| 11580s | slick um thin lines on it auto Builders |
| 11584s | yeah the the auto Builder is doesn't |
| 11587s | like |
| 11589s | Corners yeah Corners where something |
| 11592s | else is connected to is even |
| 11595s | worse yeah |
| 11598s | maybe we could do a few different te of |
| 11601s | glass block that kind of go even |
| 11605s | earlier um kind of kind of want less |
| 11609s | glass yeah not |
| 11611s | more although but is a separate |
| 11619s | block |
| 11621s | yeah like that you know we'll see there |
| 11625s | there's a lot of things to do in there |
| 11626s | and |
| 11628s | as you said we also have we also don't |
| 11631s | really have a whole lot of time set |
| 11634s | aside to deal |
| 11636s | with quirkiness of some of the block |
| 11639s | sets um we kind of ripping them out or |
| 11642s | or redoing them completely to fit |
| 11644s | another type of style or and so on um as |
| 11648s | they are really |
| 11651s | complicated but hopefully we'll see some |
| 11653s | we'll see some more forms to some of the |
| 11655s | block sets eventually |
| 11658s | uh |
| 11659s | yeah i' like to eventually get |
| 11661s | everything kind of consistent so that it |
| 11664s | kind of functions the same and is at |
| 11666s | least some consistency to the forms yeah |
| 11670s | can still kind of expand it as we go up |
| 11673s | but |
| 11677s | nice um fun yeah that that one doesn't |
| 11681s | really align |
| 11683s | well exterior part of the corner and |
| 11686s | then versus The Middle |
| 11688s | corner I know what it's |
| 11691s | missing it's not colorful enough yeah |
| 11694s | yeah |
| 11698s | that's matching perfectly that's |
| 11702s | beautiful street art |
| 11706s | sculpture yeah we should update the |
| 11708s | title screen so that you can see |
| 11711s | this going over here yeah yep definitely |
| 11716s | want to see that in the title |
| 11719s | uh would it be possible to make hedge |
| 11724s | blocks yes it is possible there is a mod |
| 11728s | for it as well um and it's something we |
| 11731s | want to do we've started kind of poking |
| 11733s | at it a little |
| 11735s | bit was hoping that we could get it in |
| 11737s | with the outdoor decoration stuff but |
| 11741s | maybe |
| 11743s | not might have to be after 103 but yeah |
| 11748s | starting a petition for Toby to paint |
| 11750s | the title |
| 11753s | screen you'll regret |
| 11759s | it yard room here yeah so we'll have uh |
| 11764s | we'll have a Dev stream on the whole |
| 11765s | outdoor thing um it's a new room type |
| 11767s | that's coming um and it has a bunch of |
| 11769s | new objects that you can decorate with |
| 11773s | and all kinds of cool stuff |
| 11777s | so you know follow along keep keep |
| 11782s | uh keep in update line on uh on Discord |
| 11786s | what do you call it we pop pop out |
| 11789s | information um some sneak peeks |
| 11792s | previews |
| 11794s | um and uh some cool stuff that's being |
| 11798s | discussed and |
| 11800s | uh you know just generally more |
| 11803s | information flow on the Discord than any |
| 11804s | of the other channels um that's what I |
| 11807s | primarily use um I pop into uh steam |
| 11811s | discussions every now and then but I I |
| 11813s | tend to stay away and let let the that |
| 11815s | whole Zone to |
| 11817s | Dennis |
| 11820s | um just because I have a hard |
| 11824s | time talking in uh Forum form if you |
| 11829s | will I prefer more of a direct line of |
| 11832s | communication instead of you know |
| 11833s | getting a reply every seven |
| 11835s | days um |
| 11839s | but that's just you know that's just |
| 11841s | me um but yeah no it's been it's been |
| 11844s | awesome to have you here and taking your |
| 11847s | morning time off on a |
| 11849s | Saturday |
| 11852s | um and I know if I I'm supposed to be |
| 11854s | watching cartoons right now my pajamas |
| 11858s | right um I know if I just let Toby go on |
| 11861s | here he'll he'll have he'll have the |
| 11863s | stream glued with radical painting all |
| 11866s | over the place place for the next 6 |
| 11869s | hours |
| 11871s | straight yeah you should probably wrap |
| 11874s | this up uh because because I know uh I |
| 11878s | know that I I got super absorbed as soon |
| 11880s | as I started poking in the in the |
| 11882s | painting stuff it just Bob Ross |
| 11885s | intensifies yeah it's it's just it is |
| 11888s | very gratifying just poking around at it |
| 11890s | there there's something there's some |
| 11892s | Tranquility to it um and and serenity |
| 11895s | that's just |
| 11898s | another layer onto the calmness in Eco |
| 11902s | and you're just kind of casually |
| 11903s | strolling around doing your |
| 11906s | thing |
| 11908s | um yeah so you know um as for as for the |
| 11911s | stream we'll pop back in on the um on |
| 11914s | the speed run and uh I'll continue |
| 11918s | answering questions for a while longer |
| 11922s | um and we say uh say thank you for jump |
| 11926s | out thank you you for uh for for hopping |
| 11929s | in and uh participating with us um and |
| 11933s | showing off the new painting stuff no |
| 11938s | worries it is uh those happy |
| 11942s | [Laughter] |
| 11945s | accidents oh it's it's been uh pretty |
| 11949s | neat um and uh like I said we're we're |
| 11952s | we're working intensely on it and trying |
| 11954s | to get it out as quickly as possible |
| 11955s | we'll have some more up updates relating |
| 11958s | play test |
| 11961s | um in information about the play test |
| 11965s | and related update information should be |
| 11968s | popping out on Discord eventually I'm |
| 11971s | not going to give a date because I I'll |
| 11972s | get crucified from everyone |
| 11975s | um but uh yeah we uh we kind of want we |
| 11981s | want people to to get a crack on it and |
| 11983s | and see see if they can break what we |
| 11985s | failed to break or um just see cool |
| 11989s | stuff that they make and |
| 11990s | and um getting some balance input and um |
| 11994s | seeing how many people are using it and |
| 11996s | where and how and and kind of all the |
| 11998s | things around it |
| 12000s | um it's going to be awesome U really |
| 12003s | looking forward to it um so with that |
| 12006s | you know thank you Toby and uh all right |
| 12009s | have a continued great |
| 12012s | weekend we'll catch you later yep yep |
| 12020s | how do I get out of |
| 12022s | here I've trapped Toby he's in the |
| 12025s | basement um no |
| 12028s | just hop out of the Discord and and |
| 12030s | you're fine all right bye take |
| 12038s | care there we |
| 12042s | go so now it's everyone else in me Toby |
| 12045s | has run off he managed to escape he's |
| 12048s | free |
| 12050s | again um switching |
| 12053s | over footage |
| 12055s | to this thing and then we want to hide |
| 12058s | that thing and then we want to do |
| 12062s | that there we go now we are back here uh |
| 12065s | let's see we had some we had some outro |
| 12067s | questions here |
| 12068s | from |
| 12070s | um from that um |
| 12081s | [Music] |
| 12083s | I think everything should be running and |
| 12085s | Screen over and everything yeah so um on |
| 12088s | that quick question for add planning to |
| 12091s | add new professions and um trains and |
| 12095s | vehicles um Vehicles |
| 12099s | yes uh we have we well not necessarily |
| 12102s | vehicles per se but like stuff two |
| 12104s | vehicles um we have a new attachment |
| 12106s | coming through the steam tractor that |
| 12107s | will go over here in in another stream |
| 12111s | um a new profession which is the |
| 12113s | scientist coming which is oil driller is |
| 12116s | being moved to that profession P |
| 12118s | painting which is the new profession |
| 12120s | that will handle all the enal craftables |
| 12122s | surrounding |
| 12123s | it |
| 12125s | um is |
| 12127s | uh in there as well and then we have |
| 12130s | some ideas for other professions that |
| 12132s | will also be under U the scientist |
| 12135s | profession umbrella |
| 12138s | um so stuff will be more populated and |
| 12141s | kind of added and fleshed out with um as |
| 12145s | we go along |
| 12149s | here um Yosi hey hello |
| 12155s | um thinking of buying the game have no |
| 12157s | clue if I'm going to like it does it end |
| 12159s | at some point does it stay as an AC |
| 12161s | world and you can progressist I think |
| 12162s | there's a lot of people in chat that |
| 12163s | would just flood you with information if |
| 12166s | they got away with it um but no so it's |
| 12169s | fairly open-ended it's a Sandbox |
| 12171s | environment um there is a general kind |
| 12174s | of and goish objective with the meteor |
| 12177s | flying in the sky on if it's enabled |
| 12180s | which it is by default um objective is |
| 12184s | to shoot it down and then after that's |
| 12185s | done it's not going to you know complete |
| 12188s | save out or or like end the scenario if |
| 12191s | you will it's an open-ended cycle |
| 12194s | so um it is up to each and everyone as |
| 12198s | well as the server owners to kind of |
| 12200s | restart and and do their thing or if |
| 12203s | they want to keep going um there's quite |
| 12205s | a few of longer running servers as |
| 12211s | well uh will there be flying vehicles |
| 12214s | there there's none planned at the |
| 12218s | moment um bicycles and what and or other |
| 12221s | efficient vehicles for commuting would |
| 12223s | be neat normal cars for role playing um |
| 12226s | there's |
| 12229s | um there's potential for it um and we |
| 12234s | also |
| 12235s | have we also have some |
| 12238s | um some asset upgrades coming in as well |
| 12241s | like the |
| 12243s | um um the powered cart for |
| 12246s | example um is going to get a facelift a |
| 12250s | significant facelift it has a um don't |
| 12254s | think it's in 10.3 but it is getting a |
| 12256s | complete revamp on its |
| 12258s | look um and the new one's looking pretty |
| 12262s | cool so when we hopped |
| 12265s | out um two hours ago there was a forest |
| 12269s | here there is no longer a forest here |
| 12272s | the this is very RI in pieces not Rest |
| 12275s | In Pieces it's just ripped in |
| 12281s | pieces or was it Rest In Pieces rather |
| 12284s | than rest in peace |
| 12288s | um whichever up to one yeah people have |
| 12291s | been really really busy just gutting |
| 12294s | this things if we turn around here we |
| 12296s | are starting to see some constructional |
| 12298s | assembly line taking |
| 12304s | place we also see starting to see a b |
| 12307s | bunch of shale being stacked up here as |
| 12308s | well probably going to Spook players |
| 12311s | sneaking in here |
| 12318s | let whale in and Arc in here some Mass |
| 12321s | research tables to get Tech |
| 12324s | progression swooshed |
| 12332s | in um yes Satsuki it's uh it's SL record |
| 12337s | it does like a |
| 12338s | smoothening speed |
| 12340s | limitation transition thing so you don't |
| 12342s | have that jerky kind of |
| 12345s | fly heart |
| 12347s | input so it's more of a curved curved |
| 12354s | motion um any plans for additional |
| 12357s | diagonal blocks um not at the moment |
| 12359s | we're trying to stay clear of it because |
| 12361s | it |
| 12362s | adds a huge quantity of |
| 12367s | complexity to a lot of things especially |
| 12370s | for anything that's automatically built |
| 12373s | so um we've still cleared up there at |
| 12376s | the moment but you know we'll see what |
| 12379s | happens in the future no one knows maybe |
| 12382s | Toby gets a grand vision of everything |
| 12384s | needs to be diagonally built and you can |
| 12385s | no longer have |
| 12387s | squares |
| 12390s | um here we see some some mortared mortar |
| 12393s | research as well as iron or starting to |
| 12396s | take shape here as |
| 12402s | well yeah everything diagonal purple and |
| 12404s | yellow don't forget the yellow |
| 12407s | or is it yellowish |
| 12409s | orange couldn't really |
| 12412s | tell uh framed glass lost its thin |
| 12416s | floors uh we'll have to take a look at |
| 12419s | that |
| 12421s | because I recall it but uh |
| 12425s | yeah uh will there be new functionality |
| 12428s | for the mechanical crane um we have some |
| 12430s | ideas on how we want to rework |
| 12434s | it um but it's it's kind of in that land |
| 12439s | of um broken stuff is more important at |
| 12443s | the |
| 12446s | moment um and we're kind of |
| 12450s | prioritizing a lot of what we have on |
| 12452s | the road map that we that we kind of |
| 12454s | need to get done and then if we have |
| 12457s | time to do some of those polish quality |
| 12459s | of life improvements and upgrades for |
| 12460s | these things um |
| 12471s | uh we'll see uh holding multiple |
| 12473s | materials at once would be a big |
| 12474s | Improvement to it um yeah I think |
| 12477s | holding multiple materials at once not |
| 12479s | just for the crane but in general um is |
| 12483s | something we've looked |
| 12485s | at every now and then we had we we had |
| 12489s | some some stuff drawn up back in um back |
| 12492s | in when we had Keegan on the r team |
| 12495s | but it kind of got pushed out |
| 12498s | and a bit forgotten so we might take a |
| 12503s | new peek on it it uh depends a little |
| 12505s | bit on how complex it would be |
| 12511s | um uh we'll see um the the current road |
| 12514s | map or the the recent road map per se up |
| 12518s | to 1.0 is on one of the latest blogs on |
| 12522s | Steam |
| 12530s | so many stumps yeah |
| 12532s | there's there's total deforestation and |
| 12536s | Devastation |
| 12539s | here it's a lot of trees cut |
| 12543s | down it's a very very big chunk of the |
| 12546s | forest we're going through checking out |
| 12548s | the |
| 12550s | teory what is going on with |
| 12555s | Theory um then |
| 12557s | Dennis |
| 12560s | Dennis |
| 12562s | um I don't know if I broke it but uh the |
| 12567s | the the tech Tre display |
| 12570s | is is not what it should be looking |
| 12578s | like huh |
| 12586s | um timus yeah that that'll that'll |
| 12589s | basically be how it |
| 12608s | works yeah so a lot |
| 12610s | of a lot of Earl |
| 12613s | here wood cutting I see some people |
| 12616s | being |
| 12617s | strolling |
| 12619s | about |
| 12625s | um but so far everyone's kind of kind of |
| 12628s | stuck up on the island |
| 12669s | imagine Stone Age Lumberjacks DeForest |
| 12672s | enough of the planet to cause global |
| 12673s | warming um |
| 12678s | I mean it it it wouldn't be too much of |
| 12680s | a grasp um now there there is some there |
| 12683s | is some tweaks and things that I want to |
| 12686s | look at for pollution values um which is |
| 12690s | going to be a focus for the update after |
| 12694s | um after |
| 12696s | 10.3 um it'll be a lot re revolving |
| 12699s | garbage recycling pollution in general |
| 12703s | uh the the ecosystem |
| 12705s | primarily um |
| 12719s | um uh plans to make faces on the map |
| 12722s | less intrusive not having them zoom in |
| 12725s | when you zoom on the map would be good |
| 12727s | something other than just turning it off |
| 12733s | um I think the it's hard to do that |
| 12738s | without |
| 12744s | um um while still filling the |
| 12747s | functionality that the intention |
| 12753s | is um any plans to come over to console |
| 12757s | at Dennis do you want to do you want to |
| 12759s | answer that one |
| 12762s | or generally speaking it it would never |
| 12765s | happen PR prior to 1.0 in particular |
| 12770s | um but yeah the |
| 12775s | um there is a layer of complexity with |
| 12779s | consoles that would be very hard to get |
| 12784s | around in the game's current |
| 12788s | architecture um due to how console |
| 12792s | restrictions work in like application |
| 12794s | wise |
| 12797s | um based on how we have our servers set |
| 12802s | up |
| 12806s | um are they all people on the server |
| 12808s | yeah yeah so you know we um you don't |
| 12812s | have NPCs in Eco outside of |
| 12817s | animals and it this is running on a live |
| 12820s | server which is the white |
| 12822s | cheetah and it is a collaborative effort |
| 12825s | to kind of speedrun and see how quickly |
| 12828s | a cohesive group of people can get |
| 12830s | through the game content from point A to |
| 12833s | point |
| 12837s | B |
| 12839s | uh can you talk about any further plans |
| 12843s | changes to the culture systems or new |
| 12845s | ways to generate |
| 12847s | culture um we have some planned but |
| 12850s | they're not in action yet so I don't |
| 12852s | want to go into them at the moment |
| 12855s | because there's there's just just a |
| 12856s | layer of uncertainty and I don't want to |
| 12857s | give out kind of wrongful information in |
| 12862s | uh as things can change quite |
| 12864s | drastically from from where they're at |
| 12866s | right now to when they're actually |
| 12868s | implemented in |
| 12870s | game um but there is going to be coming |
| 12873s | a outdoor room that will help you |
| 12876s | amplify the culture you gain through uh |
| 12879s | paintings and frames at the |
| 12883s | moment um |
| 12886s | which is going to be you know Outdoors |
| 12888s | so it'll be a new way to kind of add |
| 12891s | Aesthetics around your |
| 12894s | property |
| 12896s | um so not filling |
| 12900s | up uh your entire property plot with |
| 12903s | just your |
| 12904s | house |
| 12906s | uh they're like you know giving you a |
| 12909s | reason to not just do a square building |
| 12911s | it it adds a reason for having open |
| 12914s | space Greenery and and kind of Decor |
| 12916s | around your |
| 12928s | environment so here we have the cooking |
| 12930s | station as we can see heavily heavily |
| 12932s | influenced |
| 12936s | by scaled fishing I yes some ice boxes |
| 12941s | to help out with the stack sizes and uh |
| 12947s | impressive use of |
| 12949s | hun to make amazing |
| 12958s | housing um with white with the white |
| 12960s | cheetah one we're watching where they're |
| 12963s | probably having everything as short as |
| 12965s | it can go it's like 3 days or something |
| 12967s | they they have the ambitious plan of |
| 12969s | doing it in 24 |
| 12974s | hours so things are going to go pretty |
| 12977s | rapidly |
| 12979s | here um later on tonight slash tomorrow |
| 12983s | morning I think things are really going |
| 12985s | to speed up with iron consumption and um |
| 12989s | higher degrees of tech coming |
| 12994s | in and I'm hoping not to miss it um so |
| 12999s | I'll continue after we close this out |
| 13001s | tonight um there's still you know the |
| 13004s | the they'll be working away at it um all |
| 13008s | night and |
| 13010s | then I'll come back in and stream uh |
| 13014s | tomorrow evening um don't have a time as |
| 13018s | of right now because I'm it's a bit |
| 13020s | uncertain when I get back home |
| 13022s | so um in the evening |
| 13026s | slash not too late if they're planning |
| 13028s | on 24 hours I definitely don't want to |
| 13031s | miss it so it would the stream would |
| 13034s | start earlier than we did |
| 13040s | today uh so if you are interested in |
| 13044s | seeing how this speedrun ends up make |
| 13047s | sure to tune in for that one as well um |
| 13049s | and you know I'll keep keep answering |
| 13052s | questions that you have in the capacity |
| 13053s | I can give |
| 13055s | you |
| 13059s | um such a massive ground I love it |
| 13061s | they're probably having a great time |
| 13062s | right now yeah they're they're super |
| 13064s | organized trying to do everything as |
| 13065s | optimize as they can squeeze in |
| 13069s | and |
| 13072s | um going absolutely nuts I mean you can |
| 13075s | see how quickly they cleared out this |
| 13078s | rainforest |
| 13083s | um like they they've chocked through |
| 13087s | almost half the rainforest on this |
| 13090s | island which is |
| 13094s | insane is there is there work Bing pool |
| 13096s | for hours taking um I don't |
| 13102s | know um I'd love to know if they've |
| 13104s | organized themselves with the tech |
| 13105s | upgrades and such oh yeah they they they |
| 13108s | have this down |
| 13109s | to um a scale of which upgrades is worth |
| 13114s | it at what stage and waiting with |
| 13116s | certain processes to get the upgrades |
| 13118s | and if the upgrades are worth the |
| 13120s | investment cost for the quantity of |
| 13122s | Machinery they |
| 13124s | have um |
| 13128s | since like a lot of it is down to |
| 13131s | there's some weird loading thing going |
| 13133s | on there |
| 13135s | um because of the cost of |
| 13138s | upgrades and the time is the relative |
| 13141s | component rather |
| 13143s | than the accumulation of |
| 13147s | resources um if when they have the |
| 13151s | manpower to do it it might just be |
| 13153s | faster in terms of time to just ignore |
| 13156s | certain modules for certain tables and |
| 13158s | and |
| 13161s | combinations uh but I'm pretty certain |
| 13163s | they have this just straight down to an |
| 13166s | art at this time um especially to be |
| 13169s | able to |
| 13172s | uh commit to |
| 13174s | this um I know there's there are a |
| 13176s | couple of couple kind of leaders in the |
| 13180s | group that kind of arranges and and |
| 13183s | sorts and and keep tabs on what going |
| 13186s | where and what capacity and who works on |
| 13190s | what but it's it's just amazing to see |
| 13195s | happen and it's a great example as well |
| 13199s | um on kind of showing how hard it is to |
| 13203s | make an adjustable balanced |
| 13207s | point where like we can make it as |
| 13210s | costly as grindy or you know it just |
| 13212s | increase volume of ingredients or or |
| 13215s | quantity of ingredients that this |
| 13218s | costs |
| 13220s | um but at the end of the day if you have |
| 13223s | a large enough group that is working in |
| 13226s | Tandem and have everything mapped out to |
| 13230s | this |
| 13231s | degree um they're just going to burst |
| 13235s | through kind of anything we throw at it |
| 13238s | as long as they have the intention to do |
| 13241s | it |
| 13244s | um and the speedr runs is is a great |
| 13246s | example on when that is taken |
| 13250s | into |
| 13252s | uh a practical |
| 13255s | level introduce an unexpected disaster |
| 13257s | random |
| 13259s | events Cavin fills everything with |
| 13268s | dirt uh I I like to say a statistic on |
| 13271s | how many how much red bull was consumed |
| 13274s | during this project |
| 13276s | uh yeah that'd |
| 13278s | be slight concerning levels |
| 13282s | maybe uh don't endorse excessively |
| 13286s | drinking energy drinks just to be able |
| 13288s | to keep up competitiveness in a speedrun |
| 13291s | for any sake in any game |
| 13296s | really uh but yeah know they're cutting |
| 13298s | down the forest in a in a rapid rapid |
| 13301s | rapid speed |
| 13330s | Wonder can I get this now it is the I |
| 13333s | was hoping to see Theory but theory is |
| 13335s | not playing |
| 13337s | nice |
| 13346s | um swirling around stalking people |
| 13354s | here get some laggy loads this the the |
| 13358s | canoe |
| 13360s | Factory got to provide personal |
| 13363s | transportation for all the people |
| 13364s | fetching material across the |
| 13380s | plains |
| 13383s | uh but yeah I think we can can probably |
| 13387s | start wrapping up here if there's not a |
| 13389s | whole lot of other |
| 13391s | questions uh yeah drink water muchu |
| 13395s | import |
| 13403s | have been am as |
| 13406s | well that's a whole plank Factory for |
| 13408s | for basic upgrades for sure yeah that is |
| 13412s | it is quite |
| 13415s | possible uh I think I've gotten |
| 13419s | [Music] |
| 13421s | through through it |
| 13424s | [Music] |
| 13427s | yeah no I I think I think that's that's |
| 13430s | pretty much the entire list I do |
| 13432s | apologize if I missed any questions kind |
| 13435s | of leaking through um that hasn't been |
| 13438s | answered |
| 13440s | um been a lot to kind of keep track on |
| 13443s | um and it is getting getting kind of |
| 13446s | late |
| 13449s | um but uh yeah we'll continue the stream |
| 13453s | tomorrow and |
| 13456s | I'll post an announcement on the Discord |
| 13458s | when I know |
| 13460s | exactly uh where oh yeah Pondo I'm sorry |
| 13464s | um the the the cats are the cats are |
| 13466s | fine um I'm not sure if you came in a |
| 13469s | bit later but they were causing an |
| 13471s | absolute Ruckus In the start of the |
| 13474s | stream um they were really wanting to |
| 13477s | participate on |
| 13478s | it um |
| 13486s | but yeah they are they |
| 13488s | are at the moment they're sleeping but |
| 13490s | they'll they'll wake up here in a half |
| 13491s | an hour |
| 13493s | and fly back and forth like |
| 13497s | gazel how does Dennis feel about these |
| 13500s | unrealistic |
| 13503s | buildings |
| 13507s | um I I I don't see any unrealistic |
| 13510s | buildings here they seem fully |
| 13512s | supportable by that two pieces of 2x |
| 13517s | Force |
| 13524s | right yeah um the whole the whole stream |
| 13528s | thing will be it'll be on YouTube um |
| 13532s | which is also why I kind of want to cut |
| 13533s | it before the 4our thing I know YouTube |
| 13536s | doesn't play nice with extremely long |
| 13538s | video |
| 13539s | uploads |
| 13543s | um yeah no it's been it's it's been |
| 13545s | amazing to be here and have everyone |
| 13547s | join in and a lot of discussions back |
| 13549s | and forth um a lot of good questions |
| 13553s | posted and as as mentioned throughout if |
| 13557s | you have any feedback and suggestions |
| 13559s | hop out on on our canny page at Eco |
| 13564s | doc.io um and uh yeah if uh if you're |
| 13568s | interested in seeing how this play test |
| 13570s | uh play test the uh speedrun turns out |
| 13575s | um tune in tomorrow and have a look and |
| 13578s | I'll hopefully catch it before it |
| 13581s | ends um yeah everyone have a great |
| 13586s | weekend and I'll catch you if you pop in |
| 13588s | on the next time um if not there will |
| 13592s | be another Dev stream in as usual |
| 13596s | bi-weekly so in two |
| 13598s | weeks um hopefully we'll have some |
| 13601s | outdoors outdoor news for you um as well |
| 13606s | as the um a lot of finalization for |
| 13608s | balance stuff um will be |
| 13610s | done so uh take care have a great |
| 13614s | weekend and I'll catch you on the next |
| 13616s | one bye |
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