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| 13s | hello my name is kismet ear you're here |
| 17s | because you want to hear about role |
| 19s | specialization whenever you guys have |
| 21s | started Eve everyone just kind of |
| 23s | wanders around and inside the the |
| 25s | different ships they're told you need to |
| 27s | get this ship you need to fly this ship |
| 28s | you need to fly that ship it gets a |
| 30s | little intimidating the goal of my topic |
| 33s | is to go ahead and find roles that are |
| 35s | suited for your likes you have a |
| 38s | starting ship where you can go ahead and |
| 41s | basically learn if you're gonna like |
| 44s | that particular specialization but |
| 46s | that's the general topic so Who am I |
| 49s | I am a terrible pilot this is my worst |
| 52s | day I've lost devote er to sabers and |
| 55s | IIST act like I didn't know thirteen |
| 58s | days a jump fatigue it was not a fun day |
| 60s | because we lost it was not fun but it |
| 63s | happens but the key is that I learned |
| 66s | from my failures I might be a terrible |
| 68s | pilot but I'm gonna keep trying |
| 69s | persistence turns into a lot so Who am I |
| 74s | I'm in backcountry you might know Baltic |
| 77s | he's gonna be speaking later we're in |
| 78s | pandemic Legion I can use every module I |
| 82s | can fly every ship it's taking me a long |
| 84s | time I think I know everything I don't |
| 87s | but I like to talk like I do |
| 90s | I run a review pack called kiss over |
| 93s | it's mostly for newbies it's a single |
| 96s | pack that you can run everything through |
| 98s | it's in my bio I was a logistics |
| 100s | director with with goons for six years I |
| 103s | phone out a lot of fc's you might |
| 106s | recognize a few of these some of them |
| 108s | were the best the best few f C's in the |
| 110s | game some have stopped and played are |
| 112s | now playing like Elder Scrolls online |
| 113s | instead but you know we're hoping |
| 116s | someday they all come back and play I |
| 117s | tend to dress like characters from The |
| 119s | Big Lebowski to Vegas last night I was |
| 121s | the dude tonight I am the Jesus and I |
| 125s | don't know if I pull it off well but you |
| 126s | know I'm gonna keep on trying I don't |
| 129s | know if there's much more to say but the |
| 133s | key here is I you |
| 134s | these kill males of my losses to show a |
| 137s | story I remember what happens the reason |
| 140s | why kill males are important pilots is |
| 142s | you remember that I was there I did I |
| 145s | messed up here but I killed this other |
| 147s | guy you remember the stories about that |
| 149s | even years later I still have kill males |
| 152s | that I used like wow I remember then |
| 153s | that happen it was a big deal I want to |
| 155s | thank the people who helped me with this |
| 157s | costume and also in backcountry he gave |
| 159s | me some really good help with that and I |
| 162s | have a typo already all of my FCS for |
| 165s | making me a better pilot and not getting |
| 168s | too mad when I mess up I want to say CCP |
| 171s | for wasting 13 years of my life and all |
| 173s | the other people who helped put up with |
| 176s | my stupid nonsense so your FC says who |
| 180s | can switch everyone is fine the wrong |
| 183s | ships he doesn't have anything he needs |
| 186s | the the FC basically needs pilots to go |
| 190s | ahead and show up for his fleets if he |
| 191s | doesn't have anyone show up he can't go |
| 193s | anywhere so he needs all these roles |
| 195s | filled and those roles are DPS logy |
| 198s | tackle support if he doesn't have these |
| 201s | roles he can't do his job and then your |
| 203s | Alliance doesn't get what they want your |
| 205s | PvP group when I say PvP group I could |
| 207s | be a Corp it could be an alliance it |
| 209s | could be an entire coalition but you |
| 212s | want to go ahead and pick two roles to |
| 215s | specialize in the reason why is that you |
| 218s | never know when you're going to need |
| 219s | that particular role in your PvP group |
| 221s | and this can be for a small gang this |
| 223s | can be for a large gang large gang or |
| 225s | large groups they tend to use a little |
| 227s | more so you need to specialize because |
| 229s | it takes so much less time to train it I |
| 232s | mean you're talking about years of |
| 234s | training difference unless you're gonna |
| 236s | inject and you're crazy but I do not |
| 238s | recommend that it's like crack but the |
| 240s | thing is by specializing and doing one |
| 243s | job well you're gonna do it a lot better |
| 245s | than just someone who randomly picks it |
| 248s | up and just occasionally goes ahead and |
| 250s | does you know something and you can be |
| 252s | counted to show up so basically they're |
| 254s | like we need these bursts we need the we |
| 257s | need a decent dictor pilot and they're |
| 258s | all like let's go find that guy and and |
| 262s | basically every single group in the game |
| 263s | so even if your current group doesn't |
| 265s | need it other groups will |
| 268s | there is a continuous effort for you to |
| 271s | go ahead and develop these skills so you |
| 273s | can go ahead and be helpful or someone |
| 275s | else the reason we play this game is for |
| 277s | PvP if you want to go play you know pick |
| 279s | rocks and wow you told he can so so what |
| 283s | can what does everyone need to be able |
| 284s | to do they basically everyone needs to |
| 287s | be able to do light tackle this is where |
| 289s | everyone starts out you need to fly some |
| 291s | sort of light tackle only so you can go |
| 294s | ahead and make sure you guys catch the |
| 296s | things so you can kill them if you don't |
| 297s | have tackle we've all been there I sleep |
| 300s | everyone in the entire game should try f |
| 302s | seeing once you'll know pretty quickly |
| 305s | if you feel you're suited for it you'll |
| 307s | know when you're terrible at it like me |
| 309s | but you'll keep trying and you'll get |
| 311s | better but the thing is is that everyone |
| 314s | should at least try to take a small |
| 316s | group out it's really simple you just |
| 318s | say come let's go do this everyone needs |
| 321s | to know at least what PvP PvE and |
| 323s | industry player versus environment they |
| 325s | need to understand a little bit about it |
| 328s | you need some way to make money you can |
| 330s | just Plex your account and then once you |
| 332s | have those ideas done you have the other |
| 335s | things that everyone always trains DPS |
| 339s | it's just such a slog to go through |
| 342s | because the meta changes so quickly that |
| 344s | you know you're flying retributive on |
| 347s | illegit into retribution and then now |
| 348s | it's on the fair axes and now rax is out |
| 350s | and you know omen Navy issues are in and |
| 353s | they're just this constant churn of |
| 354s | trying to catch up the weapon systems |
| 356s | bombers are important only if your group |
| 359s | does bombing because you need a critical |
| 361s | mass if you don't reach those critical |
| 363s | mass you can't do nearly as much damage |
| 365s | bombers are also very helpful for a lot |
| 367s | of other things logistics the space |
| 371s | priests I'm sorry that you without that |
| 373s | that's what makes a PvP group effective |
| 376s | if you do not have effective logistics |
| 379s | the ability to go ahead and rep people |
| 380s | you need to get at least forward and |
| 383s | it's something you should try there's |
| 385s | smaller lower ways to go ahead and try |
| 387s | that it takes like I'll get to that |
| 388s | anyway you need capitals only to move |
| 391s | your stuff around it's it's a fact of |
| 392s | life now and the entire escalation thing |
| 395s | is crazy but it is what it is so this is |
| 400s | the role list on |
| 402s | to be going through a slide on each of |
| 403s | these so you don't have to memorize |
| 405s | numbers like that but you get the kind |
| 406s | of idea these are the different roles |
| 409s | you could specialize in that could be |
| 411s | helpful for your group so what is a PvP |
| 414s | group usually start out with a you know |
| 416s | some leadership guy and his friends you |
| 419s | know they go ahead and find someone who |
| 421s | can actually be an FC all he's able to |
| 424s | do is to motivate people login join my |
| 426s | group we're gonna go kill a bunch of |
| 427s | stuff and then your guys are going to |
| 428s | find nothing and then do it the next day |
| 430s | and the next day and the next day it |
| 432s | happens the whole time you you have your |
| 434s | PvE group the guys who make money you |
| 436s | have your support people that are helped |
| 438s | everything else under the fleet |
| 440s | commander you have your general make up |
| 443s | up a fleet when I say a fleet this is |
| 445s | where it starts crossing the boundary of |
| 447s | like 20 ships you can do a small group |
| 449s | with just this stuff you can do mostly |
| 452s | it's mostly in those cases a lot of time |
| 453s | it's just almost all DPS and then one |
| 456s | tackle and then one logy or but the |
| 459s | thing is is that as you start to develop |
| 461s | as you get bigger as you get more |
| 463s | powerful you start to add on parts that |
| 466s | go ahead and help you you have your |
| 468s | builders and these are the people that |
| 469s | go ahead and build everything for your |
| 471s | group you have your doctrine players |
| 472s | that people who say this is the current |
| 474s | meta we should do this then you have the |
| 476s | different types of Scouts they basically |
| 479s | can go out and find enemy activity they |
| 482s | can go ahead and you have probing Scouts |
| 484s | which basically can find get you warp |
| 486s | and zero on people or the combat Scouts |
| 489s | you have the probing Scouts to use |
| 490s | wormholes wormholes are extremely |
| 492s | powerful to do force projection across |
| 494s | the entire map it takes a while to go |
| 496s | ahead and do it but it's totally worth |
| 498s | it you then have the different parts of |
| 500s | the fleet's interdictor x' or tackle |
| 504s | light tackle you have heavy tackle |
| 506s | that's Hitler's you have command bursts |
| 508s | which everyone needs now and then you |
| 512s | have capitals capitals don't get in a |
| 515s | capital fight you can escalate you're |
| 516s | out of or just be where that you're just |
| 519s | going to lose everything |
| 520s | and it's fine we're here to fight I'm |
| 522s | just saying so basically these can be |
| 525s | grouped into three different sections in |
| 526s | your PvP group you have your planning |
| 528s | section this is where your alliance |
| 530s | leader sets your FC your doctor playing |
| 532s | your your Scouts the people that are |
| 534s | kind of organizing |
| 535s | the kind that people that are going to |
| 537s | go ahead and make this a fun in time for |
| 538s | you guys you have that work then work |
| 541s | you have the the thing that everyone |
| 543s | needs to be able to do a little bit not |
| 546s | all of these you should at least try |
| 547s | them you don't have to specialize them |
| 549s | you don't have to be a logic I if you |
| 551s | don't like it you might not show up on |
| 552s | kill males like I said kill mulch tell |
| 554s | stories but you can usually show up on |
| 555s | one so you Lisa show up on the battle |
| 557s | report and the battle report is usually |
| 558s | enough and then you have the |
| 561s | specialization these guys are so focused |
| 563s | on this one thing they do it so well if |
| 566s | you like doing it you can you can play |
| 569s | anytime of the day it's great so we'll |
| 572s | start with the first one player versus |
| 573s | environment this is a kill male that I |
| 576s | had not too long ago you can see this is |
| 579s | the worst ship or worse fitting as you |
| 583s | can see it is a shield fit upon effects |
| 585s | with a whole bunch of DDA's I afk Don a |
| 589s | gate and then Lex arson from adversity |
| 591s | came and killed me it was a kind of |
| 593s | embarrassing cuz I was like how did I |
| 594s | get my pod and then I looked around and |
| 596s | I didn't realize it for another day that |
| 598s | I lost this ship so who can go ahead and |
| 601s | do PvE everyone it's the it's the first |
| 604s | thing we start out in its the way we're |
| 606s | taught this is how it is the people are |
| 610s | good at it the people that are able to |
| 612s | go ahead and do that mindless repetitive |
| 613s | tasks targeting things like that the |
| 616s | things you can start in exploration is |
| 619s | what I've been is suggesting to people |
| 621s | to start out in because doing |
| 623s | exploration makes you better at the game |
| 625s | it makes you more engaged you understand |
| 628s | our wormhole works you get to learn to |
| 630s | dodge gate camp stuff like that |
| 631s | eventually though you go to be and I are |
| 633s | adding and that's the current meta and |
| 635s | then you also have missions in highsec |
| 637s | but you're gonna try all these anyway |
| 639s | later on you'll get into crazy you know |
| 643s | amounts of mindless thing and then you |
| 647s | have light tackle light tackle is the |
| 649s | other place people start out in this was |
| 651s | a fight we had in delve being run by |
| 654s | kono and then we lost all basically all |
| 657s | of our tackle we lost some cruisers we |
| 659s | lost some frigates we lost the Force |
| 661s | Recon it was not a good day this is |
| 663s | against IT Alliance |
| 665s | and anyway but the thing is is that if |
| 667s | you fly tackle you tend to die |
| 669s | so everyone needs to be able to do it |
| 672s | only so you can say scramble right now |
| 674s | let's catch these guys |
| 675s | when I say light tackle this can be |
| 677s | frigates it can be assault frigates it |
| 679s | can be interceptors it can be two degree |
| 681s | dictor's the people that are good at |
| 684s | with it are the ones who are persistent |
| 686s | the ability to go ahead and reship |
| 689s | rejoin the fight get right back in there |
| 691s | is really really important where you can |
| 694s | start as frigates and it just takes |
| 696s | under a month to go ahead and get under |
| 697s | this thing I have a newbie meda Nova she |
| 701s | is trying to learn to do tackling she |
| 704s | has lost 30 ships so far and I |
| 706s | appreciate her persistence because she |
| 708s | still continued to jump into a Tron get |
| 710s | right back out there and keep on trying |
| 713s | later on you tend to do interest in |
| 716s | interceptors you go ahead and use the |
| 720s | salt frigates and if you want to know |
| 721s | the current meta you just look what mr. |
| 722s | riah's been losing recently he is one of |
| 725s | the better tacklers that I know you then |
| 728s | have the main group of almost |
| 729s | everybody's DPS the problem with the NBS |
| 732s | is that you're constantly doing this |
| 734s | escalation of you're trying to catch up |
| 735s | the current meta that at this point the |
| 738s | meta was materials we were all flying |
| 739s | material materials all very expensive we |
| 742s | had a big fight |
| 743s | I had a bubble go up on me just and I |
| 745s | was on the edge of the bubble almost |
| 747s | about to get out and then got zonked by |
| 749s | goons Lee so what are you gonna do I was |
| 752s | really depressed about this for a while |
| 754s | because I was like oh man I was so close |
| 756s | to getting out but you know that's Eve |
| 759s | so who does us everyone you got to get |
| 762s | them to kills the kill once again the |
| 764s | kill Mel's relate the story and if you |
| 766s | don't have enough DPS you can't break |
| 768s | people's tanks this is generally the |
| 771s | catch-all where everyone is that he has |
| 773s | all the support rolls your your FC here |
| 775s | here has all the support roles you then |
| 778s | go ahead and say everybody else jump in |
| 779s | DPS the starting ships these vary this |
| 783s | is the problem with doing DPS it takes |
| 785s | about three months to get into the first |
| 787s | one takes like a month to get in the |
| 789s | second one once you start talking t-to |
| 790s | guns it sometimes takes like a month and |
| 792s | a half it adds up just exponentially and |
| 795s | it's a pain in the butt and and eBay |
| 799s | you end up having to get every single |
| 800s | ship every single weapon system and then |
| 803s | all the max DPS kills it takes forever |
| 805s | so this is why I don't always recommend |
| 808s | people go for a specialization first and |
| 810s | then go ahead and consider getting into |
| 813s | DPS ships if you have a small group |
| 815s | though you might need to go ahead and be |
| 817s | a little bit more flexible and aim on |
| 819s | those DPS ships first the omen Navy |
| 822s | issue is a great one do you have the PvP |
| 825s | so lowers this is my example of PvP |
| 828s | soloing I thought I could go ahead and |
| 830s | just swing by this guy blow him off the |
| 833s | field and it did not work well for me it |
| 836s | was kind of embarrassing and yeah so oh |
| 840s | well my poor Raptor the people that are |
| 844s | good at soloing are people with no |
| 846s | friends streamers antisocial people in a |
| 849s | very social game the people who are |
| 851s | actually good at it though have to be |
| 853s | great at Eve it is really hard when you |
| 855s | have the entire galaxy against you you |
| 858s | don't know how many people are in the |
| 859s | other side is gay you don't know how |
| 860s | many people are coming you know that |
| 861s | they know what you're in so they're |
| 863s | gonna bring the counter to that the |
| 865s | starting chips though frigates cruisers |
| 868s | faction cruisers are really powerful |
| 872s | they offer a lot of variability it takes |
| 875s | a couple months to get decent at it |
| 877s | later on you can go ahead and fly |
| 879s | anything a shout out to Big Mike er for |
| 882s | his ability to go ahead and just show up |
| 884s | with kind of random ships and get a |
| 885s | bunch of kills and probably die in the |
| 887s | process but it's a video game we play |
| 889s | this to go ahead and have fun |
| 891s | this is something you could like doing |
| 893s | getting your first kill is really really |
| 896s | hard just warning you but don't lose |
| 900s | hope we have the main role of all of |
| 904s | these PvP groups you need an FC the |
| 907s | problem is is that it's not always easy |
| 909s | to tell who's going to be good at it and |
| 910s | who's not this was me being very bad at |
| 913s | it we're on the left there we basically |
| 916s | we're gonna kill a couple bubbles we |
| 918s | were gonna go ahead and kill me Mon some |
| 920s | guys and instead they brought two galas |
| 922s | and just completely destroyed us so we |
| 925s | got you know our dictor's and we lost |
| 927s | and tackle and then everything else got |
| 928s | out so but it was it was a little bear |
| 931s | scene so this is my |
| 933s | I've seen I am NOT a good FC but I'm |
| 935s | good at back city and and yelling at |
| 937s | other FC or are good and they're good at |
| 939s | not killing me |
| 940s | so sometimes everyone should try it I'm |
| 944s | not a kidding if you are I've started |
| 946s | playing the game there is nothing better |
| 947s | than a newbie lead when they're |
| 949s | basically are jumping through gates and |
| 951s | like there's Reds on the other side of |
| 952s | the gate and you jump in you realize |
| 953s | that they're talking about the rats |
| 954s | these things happen every shouldn't try |
| 957s | it the people that are good with it are |
| 959s | good at multitasking they're good with |
| 961s | organization they're good with spatial |
| 962s | so the idea of spatial is that you can |
| 964s | go ahead and know the battlefield you |
| 966s | keep your eye on multiple things a lot |
| 969s | of people get tunnel vision I definitely |
| 971s | tunnel vision the hell out of everything |
| 972s | and they have to be somewhat good with |
| 974s | people but there are exceptions you then |
| 978s | have your starting ships to do F seen is |
| 981s | tackle you're gonna die as the F see if |
| 983s | you're if you're you're flying tackle |
| 985s | but you're gonna make sure you get the |
| 987s | you get you get the thing pointed the |
| 989s | thing dies you're more likely to have |
| 991s | people come back out if you're willing |
| 992s | to die for the fleet later on command |
| 995s | ships the monitor is super easy to get |
| 998s | into the force recons are really popular |
| 1000s | with like people like elo so you then |
| 1004s | have the recon scout the Recon Scout is |
| 1006s | the guy that you go ahead and have just |
| 1008s | sit out in people systems and figure out |
| 1010s | what they're doing this was me and I |
| 1012s | Falcon we were I was sitting inside of a |
| 1015s | boss I was gonna go ahead and just nudge |
| 1017s | my way outside the shield and see what |
| 1019s | percentage of the shields were at and |
| 1021s | yeah they caught me it wasn't fun anyway |
| 1025s | so who can do this anyone with its eyes |
| 1028s | set of eyes and a mic you need a cloak |
| 1030s | usually but you can even that's even |
| 1032s | negotiable the people that are good with |
| 1034s | though are people that are very good |
| 1036s | with patience watching and reporting you |
| 1040s | know they have this many people formed |
| 1041s | they have this many people form they |
| 1042s | have this many dreads accurate |
| 1044s | communications are really important to |
| 1046s | to start out you just need interceptor |
| 1048s | it's really simple and good recons are |
| 1052s | hard to find because and it's people |
| 1053s | that can play a lot later on you can key |
| 1056s | three cruisers you get into recons Cove |
| 1059s | ops but t3s are usually where everyone's |
| 1062s | ends up going the combat Scout |
| 1065s | is where I went ahead and probed down a |
| 1068s | Titan I thought I was all smart and I |
| 1071s | worked at the wrong range he basically |
| 1074s | he cloaked me and then shot me and |
| 1077s | killed me |
| 1077s | so yeah shoutouts a super Twinkie combat |
| 1083s | Scout is basically good at doing warp to |
| 1086s | zero on people the people that are good |
| 1089s | at it though are able to go ahead and |
| 1091s | make sure they can keep track of |
| 1093s | multiple things going on so you know |
| 1094s | when she fleets are warping off when |
| 1096s | they're working back in finding the |
| 1098s | right ranges is really important to the |
| 1102s | starting ships you can do an interceptor |
| 1104s | with expanded probe on turret does not |
| 1106s | fit easily it is a very tough fit it is |
| 1108s | better to go with a Cove ops that the |
| 1111s | cove OPS's aren't that expensive realize |
| 1115s | that you can use these skills for other |
| 1116s | things like exploration exploration is |
| 1119s | very is easy way to go ahead and learn |
| 1121s | more of the game you then have the |
| 1124s | probing Scout which is what the you do |
| 1127s | for exploration this loss was I double |
| 1129s | realize they modules aren't here on here |
| 1131s | because this is before they were |
| 1132s | recording what modules you head on but |
| 1135s | this is when I double clicked the cloak |
| 1138s | and tried to burn back the gate it did |
| 1141s | not go well and yeah elitist ops man |
| 1144s | they were really good in there on vfk |
| 1146s | around this time so anybody that's good |
| 1150s | to they can do this if you live in a |
| 1152s | wormhole group this is like your bread |
| 1154s | and butter everyone needs to know how to |
| 1155s | do this if you're in a wormhole group if |
| 1157s | you're a large PvP or PvE group you |
| 1160s | might want to find a hole to esotery |
| 1162s | kobold edge you might want to find that |
| 1164s | way out in the middle of nowhere |
| 1165s | Declan delve the people that are good at |
| 1168s | it are the people with patience |
| 1170s | persistence and no life beyond finding |
| 1173s | out oh there's one more hole in Thera |
| 1175s | let me find out where it goes to |
| 1178s | starting ships probe frigates they're |
| 1180s | really simple again - there's not even I |
| 1182s | mean the time to get into them and doing |
| 1184s | it you need like level two if you once |
| 1187s | you have little - in the skills you can |
| 1189s | start probing right away it's not that |
| 1190s | hard it takes it's there's some |
| 1192s | mechanics to it there's a lot of |
| 1193s | tutorials out there later on you do a |
| 1196s | Cove ops you can do it a stero Estero is |
| 1198s | good because you |
| 1199s | defend yourself t3s are pretty good for |
| 1201s | it recons are used for it often you have |
| 1205s | command verse these used to be known as |
| 1206s | links this is damnation I lost against |
| 1210s | CBA it was one of my more expensive ship |
| 1213s | losses |
| 1213s | I got basically primary like right off |
| 1216s | the bat they just blew through all of |
| 1218s | our things and luckily it was just |
| 1221s | sensor links I think we managed to save |
| 1223s | the armor links so who can do commanders |
| 1227s | these are people with a ton of SB I do |
| 1229s | not recommend going down this route |
| 1231s | unless you're willing to go ahead and |
| 1232s | remap the charisma when you meet remap |
| 1234s | to charisma you've realized that you |
| 1236s | have made a horrible horrible mistake it |
| 1238s | takes a long time so you need three of |
| 1242s | these the beetle things that make you |
| 1245s | good at it though if you're always there |
| 1247s | you're willing to miss out on key males |
| 1248s | because sometimes the Rangers are wrong |
| 1249s | and you're good at getting your pod out |
| 1251s | only because you want to keep your |
| 1252s | command like your mind link active |
| 1255s | starting ships command destroyers the |
| 1258s | Pontifex is good the the Bifrost is good |
| 1260s | you can at least provide some links for |
| 1262s | small gangs in that way you want to pick |
| 1264s | one that makes sense work with other |
| 1266s | people you can do some of the battle |
| 1267s | cruisers but it takes eight months |
| 1270s | because you're looking at how much stuff |
| 1272s | you have to go ahead and train a lot of |
| 1274s | times you need to switch links as well |
| 1276s | and that can be very painful later on |
| 1279s | you can do the command command ships |
| 1281s | command ships take a long time the Train |
| 1284s | t3 cruisers can do it but not very good |
| 1286s | and then you need of course the |
| 1288s | mindlinks associated with them then we |
| 1291s | have everyone's space priest this is my |
| 1294s | last set of kill Mel's |
| 1296s | or glosses associated with different |
| 1299s | semies its simplest see semi guardian |
| 1302s | guardian guardian or tiaras and basileus |
| 1306s | so one of everything over a period of |
| 1308s | two years or something like that so I |
| 1310s | don't know you it helps to be able to |
| 1313s | fly all of them they're used for |
| 1314s | different things everyone should try it |
| 1316s | it's actually easier to try than you |
| 1318s | think but it's 15% of your fleet |
| 1322s | sometimes 10 sometimes 8 depends on how |
| 1324s | people sometimes 20 the people the |
| 1327s | things that make people good at it |
| 1329s | though dealing with chaos because logy |
| 1332s | can be |
| 1332s | chaotic being telepath the telepathic |
| 1335s | helps a lot because you know that this |
| 1338s | guy runs a to be A to Z you can go ahead |
| 1341s | and add them to your watchlist ahead of |
| 1342s | time the starting ships you can do an |
| 1345s | osprey Ospreys are super easy to get |
| 1347s | into to run it for a while it takes a |
| 1350s | little bit to fly like a scimitar or |
| 1353s | something like that that's six months |
| 1354s | and then it's another month for logy |
| 1357s | five and that's non-negotiable in the |
| 1359s | future if you if you say I want to go |
| 1361s | ahead and do the space priests you'll be |
| 1363s | welcome in almost every kind of fleet |
| 1364s | like bar almost none and you'll be bit |
| 1368s | little to go ahead and help constantly I |
| 1370s | recommend everyone train it try it see |
| 1372s | how they like it |
| 1373s | this is my preferred ship class you |
| 1377s | might see I've lost these a little bit |
| 1378s | more aggressively than the last group |
| 1380s | these are Sabres they're interdicting |
| 1384s | interdictor z-- seventy one of my last |
| 1389s | 226 losses have been or sorry 77 of 226 |
| 1393s | losses have been Sabres for me so one |
| 1395s | third of all of my losses in all of Eve |
| 1397s | at been Sabres who can do that basically |
| 1401s | dictor's are good at separating fleets |
| 1406s | it's one of the few ships in the game |
| 1407s | where you can make a huge difference the |
| 1410s | fact that you can go ahead and use your |
| 1411s | own self-direction to figure out what |
| 1413s | you need to do next with your dictor can |
| 1415s | sometimes make FC is upset if you can |
| 1418s | totally get you killed and shot by your |
| 1421s | own FC but be able to get away is very |
| 1424s | important is more important that you |
| 1426s | were able to go ahead and survive for |
| 1427s | later in the fight than it is to get you |
| 1429s | know the second bubble or something like |
| 1431s | that |
| 1431s | if you already have bubble stacked on |
| 1433s | top of each other it's better for you to |
| 1434s | cloak up knowing the Micra warp drop |
| 1436s | trick with cloaking it's very important |
| 1438s | there's no substitute you can't there's |
| 1441s | no temporary you know kinda dick Turing |
| 1443s | you can do like anchored bubbles but |
| 1446s | that's not the same but I recommend the |
| 1448s | Sabre the Sabre they all have different |
| 1450s | abilities the Sabre is the best to |
| 1454s | survive it's also the fastest heretic is |
| 1457s | good if you're gonna be using armor reps |
| 1459s | because it can get really tanky the |
| 1461s | flycatcher is really good at DPS and I |
| 1463s | don't know who flies Eris's other than |
| 1464s | when they get super super cheap |
| 1466s | they were my favorite for a while |
| 1468s | because I would join him with blasters |
| 1470s | and just I don't know it's not the best |
| 1472s | fit you then have the other end of that |
| 1475s | coin which is heavy tackle this was me |
| 1477s | trying to mess with fraternity and I |
| 1480s | thought I could go ahead and get my |
| 1481s | bubble down in time it did not go well |
| 1484s | so we gonna do so who can do heavy |
| 1489s | tackle balls of steel you have to be |
| 1492s | willing to go ahead and put that bubble |
| 1493s | up realize you're gonna get fired on and |
| 1495s | no one can help you so you just got to |
| 1497s | survive people that are good at though |
| 1499s | are good at spatial awareness make sure |
| 1501s | the bubble is covering everything you |
| 1502s | need to making sure you're close enough |
| 1505s | to your logy so they can still rep you |
| 1506s | knowing when to broadcast skis if you |
| 1508s | broadcast early and you're logically try |
| 1510s | to rep you and yourself your bubble up |
| 1511s | they'll get really mad at you I've never |
| 1513s | done that yes anyway starting chips you |
| 1517s | can do in the assault frigate I tried |
| 1519s | this the other day with an assault |
| 1520s | frigate it did not go well and my FC got |
| 1523s | super mad at me |
| 1525s | but these things happen you can also do |
| 1527s | with battle cruisers and cruisers but |
| 1529s | really later on you're looking at heavy |
| 1531s | interdict errs you're looking at force |
| 1533s | recons things like the Lachesis the |
| 1535s | Hugin so like that you can even start |
| 1537s | mixing it with the cloaking ones for |
| 1540s | more diverse groups buescher's is the |
| 1544s | shorthand for command destroyers this is |
| 1548s | what my presentation is titled off of I |
| 1550s | just got into one and I immediately went |
| 1553s | on a fleet and I immediately boost our |
| 1555s | entire group off the gate when we were |
| 1556s | trying to go through it and so I like |
| 1558s | most of the fleet jumped away with me |
| 1560s | and then Thomas leaders probably married |
| 1563s | me and I died so it was it was a good |
| 1566s | time I regret nothing you die definitely |
| 1570s | learned how to use a command destroyer |
| 1572s | though I have never boosted anyone other |
| 1574s | than that ever yes anyway the people |
| 1577s | that everyone can do it you want to make |
| 1580s | sure that you have a good working |
| 1581s | knowledge of EVE there's a lot of things |
| 1583s | you can do in a Boucherie you can Boosh |
| 1585s | bubbles away you can take entire groups |
| 1587s | you can go ahead and Boosh tackle on two |
| 1590s | things you can there's a ton of things |
| 1591s | you can do with it the people that are |
| 1593s | good with it are things that you have a |
| 1596s | good rapport through RF see if you have |
| 1598s | a poor reporter like me you |
| 1599s | we're gonna go ahead and a bad time |
| 1601s | because you're gonna Boosh at the wrong |
| 1602s | time about having good spatial awareness |
| 1604s | and how far away 100 km is very |
| 1607s | important it's once again you got to go |
| 1610s | straight to the the only ship that does |
| 1611s | this which is the Bifrost Pontifex you |
| 1614s | can use some of the microbe jump drives |
| 1617s | on on some of the larger ships like the |
| 1621s | battleships and stuff like that it's not |
| 1623s | the same you want to take the entire |
| 1624s | group and then you want to do all of |
| 1626s | them you eventually start going you know |
| 1628s | links you know or sorry command bursts |
| 1631s | and but that's a long time you then have |
| 1634s | the doctrine planner this is the guy |
| 1635s | that goes ahead and it says we're gonna |
| 1637s | fly these because the met is really |
| 1638s | strong I had this great idea to go ahead |
| 1641s | and build a new mission for running chip |
| 1643s | the reason this kill metal is important |
| 1645s | is the value if you can see there 361 |
| 1649s | mil for a this was a lot of money for me |
| 1652s | at the time I decided to go through |
| 1654s | ranter which is always a mistake just go |
| 1657s | around it it's fine I'm you're good |
| 1658s | you're gonna be fine so but the doctrine |
| 1661s | planner is someone who's good with EFT |
| 1663s | good with PI fuh I use PI for personally |
| 1666s | but the people that are good with it I |
| 1668s | have no idea what makes them good at it |
| 1669s | other than they're good at remembering |
| 1671s | they're good arguing their case you can |
| 1673s | only get in so many arguments with |
| 1675s | people before you realize you're just |
| 1676s | not that great at it but everyone likes |
| 1678s | EFT boring they like go and say but on |
| 1680s | paper this is great until you use it and |
| 1683s | then you realize it's terrible to start |
| 1685s | on it download Peiffer it's or you can |
| 1688s | use the in-game browser to get good at |
| 1691s | it it's gonna take about a year of |
| 1692s | playing Eve in general and then later on |
| 1695s | you're gonna try the new ships and see |
| 1697s | how you like them how they perform how |
| 1700s | they handle so building is is important |
| 1704s | to the game this was an example of me |
| 1706s | deciding to take trips across and I got |
| 1709s | caught by a lone bomber it was very sad |
| 1713s | and lost my 85 that had been with me for |
| 1716s | a long time |
| 1717s | the people that can go ahead and do this |
| 1719s | the people who are lazy who are good |
| 1722s | with their money but really just a ton |
| 1726s | and ton of monotony Spreadsheets jump |
| 1729s | freighter all the stuff that can put me |
| 1732s | to sleep |
| 1733s | anyway having a lot of resources helps a |
| 1736s | lot but to get started you just need to |
| 1739s | have some risk and you can go ahead and |
| 1741s | start small yeah basically you're your |
| 1743s | Alliance your PvP group most likely |
| 1745s | loses a certain amount of ships there's |
| 1747s | certain amount of ammo stuff like that |
| 1748s | you can start to build that to replace |
| 1750s | that you then start building Citadel's |
| 1752s | to help you with that later on you get |
| 1755s | you know to jump Raiders you start |
| 1756s | mining yourself that's the big |
| 1758s | differentiator or as soon as you start |
| 1760s | mining to build your own Empire that |
| 1763s | helps a lot you then have bombers when I |
| 1766s | say bombers I mean in general it's where |
| 1770s | you're buying entire fleets off the |
| 1772s | field in this case we were bombing |
| 1774s | darkness and we got cotton bubbles and |
| 1778s | we died so not that and the thing is |
| 1782s | that bombing isn't terribly you know |
| 1784s | it's that hard it basically you need |
| 1788s | seven or eight people to bomb in a group |
| 1790s | because that's the most amount Amager |
| 1792s | can do you want to have that full-out |
| 1793s | group the people that are good at it or |
| 1796s | I'll to go ahead and follow these |
| 1797s | instructions they're aligned land a line |
| 1801s | D cloak bomb warp out don't deviate if |
| 1804s | you do anything else you're not gonna |
| 1806s | you might not hit the right target you |
| 1809s | basically when you you're aligned to get |
| 1810s | warped in you're gonna land you're gonna |
| 1812s | you're aligned towards your we're gonna |
| 1813s | aim your bomb you'll launch it and then |
| 1815s | you warp out starting ships any bomber |
| 1818s | ask UFC you could ask Nova lentes he has |
| 1820s | very very strong opinions on this I've |
| 1822s | talked to him about it he's in bombers |
| 1824s | bar bombers bars a fun group that shows |
| 1826s | up the fights and just bombs the crap |
| 1827s | out of everybody and by the way if you |
| 1830s | tell them of the fight they usually |
| 1831s | won't bother you the Obama who you're |
| 1832s | fading later on you get coops five this |
| 1836s | is the big differentiator the difference |
| 1838s | between Cove ops was at three and five |
| 1841s | is something like you know another ten |
| 1844s | percent or something it just add it |
| 1846s | ramps up really crazy |
| 1847s | so it's like eight K on the other end of |
| 1851s | the spectrum you have blocks back black |
| 1853s | ops these are the guys that hang out in |
| 1855s | your systems trying to kill you in this |
| 1858s | case we were down in delft with a |
| 1860s | polarized bomber we were hanging out on |
| 1862s | gate they warped in a super carrier and |
| 1865s | they killed us |
| 1866s | and it you shouldn't die I got D coach |
| 1869s | because I ran into something it sucked |
| 1871s | and it's very embarrassing when this |
| 1873s | happens people or who do this assholes |
| 1879s | they come in your ship your you're |
| 1881s | renting or whatever and they're just |
| 1883s | kind of hang out there just because yeah |
| 1884s | I don't know but the thing is is that |
| 1887s | it's incredibly fun but the thing is |
| 1890s | that to be good at it you need our |
| 1892s | patience you need to know when to warp |
| 1894s | out it's more important you keep your |
| 1895s | ship alive and that they die |
| 1899s | starting ship you can get deuce in a |
| 1900s | bomber but later on you can go ahead and |
| 1902s | do us in a black ops battleship you can |
| 1904s | even do it with cruzi capitals you know |
| 1906s | very fast ones it's like that if you go |
| 1909s | to watch Baltics presentation later I |
| 1912s | think he might be covering some of this |
| 1913s | he is doing a lot of damage in Delft |
| 1916s | just you know wandering around you then |
| 1920s | have capitals this is where the entire |
| 1922s | game tends to push you towards |
| 1924s | eventually this was in a DW I was last |
| 1929s | person on the field thanks to the the |
| 1933s | incredible power of the the roeckl in |
| 1937s | invulnerability and this was a hell a |
| 1940s | lot of fun it was one of the best things |
| 1942s | I had done in the game and it was great |
| 1946s | basically everyone needs to get a capo |
| 1949s | only so you can move ships that are |
| 1950s | packed realize rigs aren't actually that |
| 1952s | that expensive they used to be really |
| 1955s | expensive even the t2 ones aren't that |
| 1957s | bad anymore so you could go ahead and |
| 1959s | get someone to ship it with a jump |
| 1961s | freighter service but it's not nearly as |
| 1963s | efficient as it is just dumping them all |
| 1965s | on your capital and just going so but |
| 1967s | the people that are good at it they're |
| 1969s | okay with moving turning a lot of |
| 1971s | there's a lot of insurance you can get |
| 1973s | returned on it pain center your ship is |
| 1975s | really important if you float off an |
| 1977s | Astra house you will never hear the end |
| 1979s | of it people make fun of you forever the |
| 1983s | starting chips pick a dirt carrier dread |
| 1986s | or apostle I recommend a possible if |
| 1988s | you're part of a large group because |
| 1989s | that's what everyone's getting to or the |
| 1991s | men Okawa or another one that is suited |
| 1994s | but just focus on that one and it's |
| 1997s | going to take 1.5 years of training time |
| 1999s | to get |
| 2000s | there and it sucks because it's a long |
| 2002s | long time later on you're gonna get the |
| 2005s | other two you might go in through a raw |
| 2007s | coal you might go into a super you might |
| 2008s | get a Titan you might get tight ends |
| 2010s | because if you start talking about the |
| 2012s | current meta you need Titans to go ahead |
| 2015s | and do edit or damage any heavy damage |
| 2018s | in heavy time |
| 2019s | you then have capital reps this is this |
| 2023s | is before the apostille took over you'll |
| 2027s | notice that I have been D deed I was on |
| 2030s | the undock of Saren in using tractor |
| 2033s | beams to salvage ships because I don't |
| 2036s | know I was bored and then yeah Patrick |
| 2039s | 99 Omega went ahead and did a drive-by |
| 2042s | he did one early and day he attempted |
| 2044s | one he failed and I laughed at him and |
| 2045s | then later on he got me what are you |
| 2048s | gonna do so everyone needs to be able to |
| 2052s | do this if you're part of a large group |
| 2053s | if you're a part of a small group you |
| 2055s | don't really need it but capital reps |
| 2056s | are not to be under judged they are so |
| 2060s | so valuable |
| 2061s | the people are good at though you need |
| 2064s | to have a lot of ESPE you need to have |
| 2066s | three billion s Ford it and then you |
| 2068s | need to you know have a reason why to |
| 2069s | use it |
| 2070s | starting chips any facts by your group |
| 2073s | talk to your groups they usually will |
| 2075s | regular recommendation which one to go |
| 2077s | with the carrier skill book it requires |
| 2079s | like 500 million s it's pretty expensive |
| 2081s | for what it is |
| 2082s | the vs. a dread which is 100 mil later |
| 2085s | on you're gonna get both a combat and an |
| 2088s | emergency fax combat faxes tend to have |
| 2091s | a rep and they can cycle emerging fact |
| 2093s | attack faxes are just pure buffer and |
| 2096s | they're just for Dedes because they got |
| 2098s | to get removed so why do you do this |
| 2103s | that's all of them by the way so the |
| 2107s | reason why you want to go ahead for this |
| 2109s | reason to do all the things that I just |
| 2111s | went through is about 5.5 years of your |
| 2114s | life to go ahead and say I wanna just do |
| 2117s | G everything so it's just it's tough but |
| 2121s | as soon as you go ahead and start |
| 2123s | stripping down to I'm just gonna do the |
| 2124s | things in the everyone should do the |
| 2126s | temporary the small list it's only one |
| 2128s | point through five years then when you |
| 2130s | go ahead and start adding a capital |
| 2132s | maybe it matches up to you know |
| 2133s | two point seven years but if you can go |
| 2135s | ahead and pick one generalization one |
| 2139s | specialization and focus you will become |
| 2142s | a better pilot it'll only take you six |
| 2144s | months to get where you need to be so |
| 2146s | you can be effective for your PvP group |
| 2148s | and it's gonna it's going to make you a |
| 2150s | better pilot too because you're going to |
| 2151s | be just that one thing you're gonna get |
| 2153s | better and better at it so we go back to |
| 2155s | our picture of the the organization you |
| 2158s | find someplace in this organization |
| 2160s | where you think you can make a |
| 2161s | difference you want to find there's a |
| 2163s | starting chip you can start out you can |
| 2165s | see you know do I like doing this |
| 2167s | because I recommend you try it for about |
| 2169s | a week if you're getting not getting a |
| 2171s | lot of combat maybe you do it for a |
| 2172s | month but the idea is you try something |
| 2174s | for a while see if you like doing it if |
| 2176s | you don't like doing it then then move |
| 2178s | on to something else there's a ton of |
| 2179s | other special specialties in here |
| 2182s | but that's the thing is that once you go |
| 2184s | ahead and find those those groups you |
| 2187s | can go ahead and say this sounds |
| 2188s | interesting this sounds interesting you |
| 2190s | can do it like doing the blob stuff is |
| 2192s | super easy to go ahead and do when |
| 2194s | you're not the when you're not deployed |
| 2195s | when you're not fighting you know or but |
| 2198s | I by the way I recommend everyone tried |
| 2199s | dickering because it's great but that's |
| 2201s | my personal preference it's a lot of fun |
| 2204s | anyway if you guys want to see a copy of |
| 2207s | this presentation it's a kiss w ck |
| 2210s | Ginette my i'm gonna be adding it to my |
| 2213s | bio later you can find my kiss over |
| 2216s | which is my overview in my bio and i |
| 2218s | have an in-game channel called kiss |
| 2220s | assist that i use that help newbies |
| 2221s | sometimes I'll be happy to answer |
| 2223s | questions later but that's my time I |
| 2226s | want to thank you for attending |
| 2233s | and I apologize if I am a huge knodel I |
| 2236s | apologize anyway |