Alliance Tournament XX | Day 1 | EVE Online Dev Tracker

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8s	[Music]
16s	Heroes have
18s	[Music]
20s	risen Legends have been
25s	forged their names echoing Through Time
34s	their
35s	Glory Ed into the
39s	Stars doesn't appear to be come take out
43s	still
46s	hammering come on abon pull a hero on us
49s	I'm looking for the hero hungry
54s	loaded the arena
56s	awaits this Crucible of Courage ready to
60s	bear
61s	witness who will be cast down and who
65s	will join the immortal
68s	Dynasty let the battle begin
83s	[Music]
93s	hello everyone and welcome to Alliance
96s	tournament
97s	2020 holy hell it is the 20th time we
100s	are doing this uh who is going to go
102s	home the champions of the 20th Alliance
104s	tournament joining the hallowed Halls of
106s	Victors last year's defending champions
108s	for T are going to be first up I am CCB
111s	overload I am joined by a whole host of
114s	amazing talent for this production we
116s	are here in the CCP headquarters in
117s	Iceland and honestly I am so excited I
120s	think I want to go straight to the first
121s	match it's going to be forar the
123s	defending Champions going up against
125s	till doomsday so let's just head over
127s	straight to the arena and we'll talk
128s	about that
131s	afterwards till Doomsday's drone control
134s	fear yeah till doomsday unfortunately
137s	not going to have a great time against
138s	that King killer rapid heavy setup with
140s	all their ships being of course
143s	mediumsized but they do have aarz which
146s	does mean if they aren't able to clip
148s	through uh these eos's V Navy issues and
151s	similar ships then zarm will be able to
154s	spool off and fret will need to change
156s	targets but we see off the start a bunch
158s	of drones from the till doomday side
160s	starting to move over towards uh these
163s	Armageddon Navy issues until doomsday is
165s	actually boating in uh with their drone
168s	setup yeah it looks like the onos will
171s	be the primary which makes a lot of
172s	sense to me you're going to want to get
174s	rid of that before till doomsday loses
175s	any critical mass it looks like
177s	returnity will be going on to the EOS
179s	trying to get any of of the links off of
181s	the board and notably fraternity putting
183s	a total of 30 points into to two
185s	arbitrators that tracking and guidance
186s	disruption isn't going to do much
188s	against the Drone comp yeah it's an
189s	unfortunate pick for them however King
191s	Slayer should do well against
192s	medium-sized ships even with the lower
194s	Sig radius that is given by the armor
197s	and of course Armageddon Navy issue with
199s	Flagship guns is going to be doing a lot
203s	of DPS all in its own but we see ombre
205s	doio currently tanking up these rhml
208s	pretty quickly I expect frat to start
211s	changing targets pretty soon as Theos of
213s	coer seems to have gotten out of the
215s	danger from till to stay yeah we see an
217s	entire cloud of heavy drones on top of
219s	that onos and it looks like that might
221s	be a 100 MN onos seems to be active
223s	tanking however one of the issues in
225s	bringing a drone setup like fraternity
227s	did is that your Navy Armageddon of
229s	course is not going to have rep bots so
231s	that onos will most likely be a bit of a
233s	local tank and now damage coming off of
235s	the onos and switching on to another
237s	Target on the side of fraternity yeah
239s	meanwhile fraternity keeping on poking
241s	and proding they've got some more damage
242s	onto the EOS of Dy Noah but as we've
245s	mentioned those zarm reps once they're
247s	able to keep spooling can tank the Dual
249s	rapid Heavies if they can uh zaras this
252s	year only two more points than the other
254s	Tech 2 Lodi ships notably the guardian
256s	so if it's able to keep these reps up
258s	it's good that said frat swapping onto
260s	this hyena of KitKat 01 and he's going
262s	to die pretty quickly yeah we see a lot
264s	of light drones that on top of Kit Kat
266s	Kit Kat doing the best to try to pull
268s	range on that uh going three ,000
271s	overheating and he is actually pulling
272s	away from some of these drones but he's
274s	already down into low hole Yeah being in
276s	structure hyena of course able to screen
279s	and slow down targets for these drones
281s	to catch back up to uh at the moment
284s	though kit kat1 still staying alive for
287s	the time being as fraternity their
289s	Tormentor is the target from the Drone
292s	comp at the time they just haven't been
293s	able to kill the sosos got off SC free
295s	and the Tormentor goes down for First
297s	Blood yeah that Tormentor had been doing
298s	a good job at holding down one of the
300s	eos's and then we see tackle on what
302s	looks like Dusty noo had dropped a
304s	little bit there um really doing a good
306s	job at holding one of those um EOS in
308s	the backline but Tormentor uh not quite
311s	as tanky as uh some of uh its other
314s	Brethren that hyena now finally dropping
316s	to drone damage yeah until doomsday
318s	again those webs off the table for them
321s	is not going to be very nice at all uh
324s	fraternity getting rid of a lot of that
325s	control we see the EOS of ombre once
327s	again being the primary from fraternity
328s	those dual rapid Heavies are not
330s	clipping through the zarm rebs at the
332s	moment and it's been a bit unfortunate
334s	for them with these two arbitrators
335s	basically being useless this comp
337s	they're going to lose their Confessor
338s	and that's one more tackle boat off the
340s	table for Fraternity yeah interestingly
343s	that does put till doomsday in the lead
345s	and I have to imagine that uh it looks
347s	like Frank the Tank is possibly going to
349s	be a new primary we see Heavy NES going
352s	on top of it trying to maybe shut off
353s	some hardeners but these nevi Armageddon
355s	they're going to have to eventually
356s	break through the zarm or an isher or
358s	something else because they're not going
359s	to break EOS and right now they need
362s	points to start to be able to secure a
364s	lead or they're going to be in a world
365s	of hurt yeah for DOT it's a bit
367s	interesting seeing King slayer at this
369s	stage in the tournament uh typically uh
373s	we didn't see a whole lot of it in
374s	feeders and fraternity obviously didn't
375s	pan feeders being the winner from last
377s	year uh their anos now being chunked out
379s	once again uh coer Cen now into half
384s	armor and it doesn't look like he's able
386s	to self WP enough is he tackled right
388s	now yes he is he's been held down by the
390s	prophecy of flin uh good old French name
393s	that I cannot pronounce however the
395s	Magus on the side of alternative mov did
397s	a good job at counters scramming the
399s	prophecy off so the onus is doing uh
401s	what he can to now be no longer under
404s	that uh web slowing him down he's going
406s	to be propping up trying to mitigate a
408s	little bit more damage but there are no
409s	rep drones on top of that onos it's all
411s	local tank and there's just a mob of
414s	Imperial Navy uh everything and Republic
416s	Fleet warriors on top of him going down
418s	into low hole if returned to loses their
420s	onos here it may be a huge upset it
423s	really looks like it to till N St taking
425s	out that onos and once again these
426s	arbitrators are absolutely useless the
428s	Navy armagedon are completely tackled up
430s	so are the Mages and the pawn effects at
432s	the moment and these dual rapid Heavies
434s	have not been able to chunk through
437s	these oses uh they killed one frig the
440s	entire time and now like they're onto an
443s	isher trying to get some damage under
444s	that maybe Frank the Tank of the Vex are
446s	navy issue but they're losing their
447s	links now the pawn effect is dead
448s	they're moving on to this Mages and they
450s	don't even need to kill the armag get
451s	Navy issues because the armag Navy
453s	issues are losing all of their support
454s	the vexer is still alive but that's
456s	going to be the last tackle down and the
458s	Dual arbitrators once again doing
460s	absolutely nothing at drones so
462s	critically here now that the Magus does
464s	die that is now starting the clock where
466s	we have about a minute 30 seconds where
468s	the links will remain um from the last
470s	time that they were run on those Navy
471s	gettins but once those drop uh that's
474s	the end of the armor links that's the
475s	end of any sort of skirmish link so
477s	those uh Navy gons are going to be much
480s	less tanky and if I'm till doomsday I'm
481s	thinking about trying to commit to uh
484s	really taking that out here uh you don't
486s	just want to win you want to absolutely
487s	Dominate and make a statement until
489s	doomsday it looks like they've got the
490s	match win they're getting remline rather
492s	low let's see if they can also get the
493s	flagship yeah this zarz an absolutely
497s	brilliant pick against this fraternity
499s	comp if they got the read on the king
501s	Slayer obviously those zarm reps can
503s	keep uh ships up through dual rapid
505s	Heavies if it's able to spool for as
507s	long lumahan doing an excellent job
509s	being with his Target priority with
511s	those reps the vexer is down now it's
514s	just two arbitrators which do nothing in
515s	this comp and the two Armageddon Navy
518s	issues which I'd have to assume are dual
520s	n fit I don't see any sort of smart
522s	bombs going out from them at the moment
523s	we see the Drone blob starting to move
525s	over towards those gon navies in support
527s	of these EOS and the zaras taking some
529s	damage right now but the zaras is
531s	incredibly tanky in that local tank and
534s	that's not what you want to see if
535s	you're dual rapid heavy armag getting
537s	Navy issues remember the flagship is
538s	being used here the flagship goes down
540s	we're seeing frat loser Flagship in the
543s	first match of the tournament yeah so
545s	these are going to be a rapid heavy and
548s	these new EOS so these EOS are on top of
550s	an Navy get in each and these EOS are
552s	getting rather low it looks like what's
554s	going on is fraternity is using the fact
556s	that they can have one of these get and
558s	shoot each of the eos's and this will do
561s	um something that the that L will not
564s	like which is having to split reps and
566s	zarm zzs are very very bad we can see
568s	that U you know mut plasma a rep go on
570s	top of Dy Noah which means that ombre
572s	might drop but I mean fraternity they
576s	still have a massive attack bar it's
578s	just can they actually get that rapid
580s	heavy damage concentrated and on top of
582s	anything these arbitrators are breaking
584s	uh man even if they do break these eos's
587s	fraternity is going to be in a lot of
588s	trouble they'll have a lot of points to
590s	make up till doomsday going to be over
592s	that 100 point mark remember this year
594s	Point values are approximately double
596s	what they are previously and we get up
598s	to 200 points for a little bit more
599s	granularity till doomsday currently
601s	sitting at 95 points of fraternities 11
604s	they have yet to kill one of these EOS
605s	once again just killed the hyena one of
607s	the osis isn't even tackled anymore
609s	Dusty gets completely out of Dodge and
612s	now ombre should be able to focus the
613s	Reps back uh on top of ombre in the Eos
617s	we see L start to move that and once
620s	again these SPO DRS from the EOS if
621s	they're able to keep through the rapid
622s	heavy Clips even with the flagship it's
625s	just impossible for Fraternity to do
627s	anything against this yeah absolutely I
629s	mean till doomsday we had almost
631s	everyone had thought that they would be
633s	you know the team that would easily get
635s	knocked out here and they're doing an
636s	actual Master Class of really showing
638s	what happens when you can screen apart
641s	these ships and I mean fraternity really
642s	dumping 30 points into guidance and
645s	missile disruption that really isn't
646s	going to do much and now it looks like
648s	ombre is actually stabilizing in low
650s	armor that you know mut plasmid rep from
653s	the zarm that is actually holding him
655s	Lou is absolutely playing lights out
657s	doing a great job uh you know it's
658s	staying away from
660s	uh the N pressure of these Navy
661s	Armageddon and crucially this year uh
663s	you know officer heavy NES are not
665s	allowed to be uh used so the Navy gons
668s	while they might have Tech to n they
670s	won't have the full officer capability
672s	yeah until doomsday they're a team that
674s	we've seen in a couple of the previous
675s	tournaments the French team split off
677s	from uh what was local as primary them
680s	and white flag kind of going off and
681s	doing their own thing we see till
683s	doomsday comeing to this tournament not
684s	a lot of expectations on them after some
686s	kind of poor performances in the
688s	previous two this is an absolute win for
690s	them as we are only 44 seconds left in
692s	the match they lose ombre even if they
694s	lose Dy they win this one handily and
696s	they're about to kill CRA naruga and the
698s	Navy Armageddon well okay so that said
700s	they would have to kill dusty but Dusty
702s	would not be enough points right they
703s	would also have to kill zarzad or a
705s	prophecy and really I mean we've got 28
708s	seconds left on the clock fraternity is
709s	not going to have the time the number
711s	one seated team in this entire event one
714s	Alliance tournament 19 is going to go
716s	down to the lower bracket in a manner
718s	that I think no one would predicted no
720s	this is completely unexpected and an
722s	absolute upset till doomsday making a
725s	massive statement taking out the
726s	tournament favorites and the number one
728s	seed going into of the tournament we
729s	have six seconds left in the match siren
731s	euga goes down we don't know which of
733s	those name Armageddon was the flagship
734s	we'll see if it was siron or if it
736s	perhaps is Fuki waiu and they're able to
738s	carry that in a lower bracket but that
740s	is the match till Dooms are moving on
742s	for turny get knocked down to the lower
743s	bracket and we're going to take a quick
745s	break after that it's going to be to the
747s	desk we'll be right back after this
754s	just I'm like over welcome back Alliance
757s	tournament 20 the first match the first
759s	upset for T taking the L on that one and
763s	I believe I'm joined by mystical M and
765s	blackb pirate mystical might has just
766s	dropped his L on the floor uh you may
769s	put that back upon your head where it
770s	belongs uh what an upset blackbart
773s	Pirates what happened there well uh
775s	something I don't think anybody expected
776s	I didn't get to see what the twitch
777s	results or predictions were on that but
779s	I mean returning Champions
781s	fraternity already losing two million
783s	Channel points just went poof oh okay so
786s	yeah definitely unexpected um it was
788s	kind of interesting so obviously we had
790s	a lot of different things happen uh we
791s	had what was a drone setup going up
793s	against this kind of weird hybrid drone
795s	rapid heavy missile launcher Flagship
798s	setup um they weren't able to kill
801s	anything with their Flagship besides
802s	they got an EOS and they got a hyena and
804s	they kind of slowly lost their entire
806s	bottom in there wasn't really a lot of
808s	damage I personally hate armag navvy
810s	issues as flagships I hate rapid heavy
811s	missile launcher armagedon Navy issues
812s	and now I feel very justified in that
814s	because fraternity is already in the
816s	lower bracket first match returning
818s	champion in the almost trash not quite
821s	the trash yet very close they're trash
823s	adjacent now um well the good thing is
825s	they do have an opportunity to win tons
827s	of skins now they could do the hero run
828s	through the low bracket uh getting skins
831s	10 skins for every match you win which
832s	is great lots of skins lots of money uh
835s	but uh they have to actually win those
836s	matches Unfortunately they have not done
837s	that yet that's the master plan yes now
839s	they had uh the till D team had a zarm
841s	as talk to me about the zarm as was that
843s	a was that a bit of a a key ship for
845s	them there yeah uh the zarm typically
847s	fails when DPS getss split across your
849s	team the arm has a very strong remote
852s	rep which reaches out to about 72 km as
854s	an optimal it doesn't have any fall off
856s	it's either on or it isn't um and the
858s	more that it spools or Cycles the more
861s	it reps what we saw with the till
864s	doomday till doomsday team is that he
866s	was able to effectively manage where
868s	those reps were going when oses were
870s	being attacked and because there wasn't
871s	really that much damage coming out of
872s	the fraternity team it was very easy to
875s	manage like how long you spent repping
877s	One OS then you swapped it over to the
879s	other we saw at the end that one OS was
881s	allowed to die because it was dying very
882s	slowly and that the one that was more
884s	effectively tackled and in damage range
886s	was the one that got the Reps and we saw
887s	it actually go from about 10% armor up
890s	to effectively full so very well played
892s	from the z um because of the distance
895s	that it can rep from it means that the
897s	Navy geddon even if it is a flagship
898s	because it doesn't have any any like
900s	officer NES or factor NES can't nude out
902s	that far to stop it from from doing so
905s	yeah I mean it would be nice to see a
907s	flagship die in the first match but I
908s	think uh it probably was Fuki Wu in the
910s	flagship so I think it did survive but
912s	we'll get confirmation that a little bit
913s	later but now let's look at our next
915s	match this one's one I'm looking forward
916s	to it's going to be uh templis Castle
918s	versus Exodus so two pretty experienced
921s	teams Exodus of course have some of the
922s	most highly skilled pilots on TQ in
924s	terms of small gang they love to kite
926s	these are these are kiting experts uh
928s	and of course uh temp C of also no
930s	slouch team they won Alliance open uh
932s	without dropping a single match uh
934s	they've done pretty well in some other
936s	tournaments like Alliance tournament
937s	itself including knocking famously Hydra
939s	down into the lower bracket on weekend
940s	one back in last tour at 16 another
943s	crazy upset so B what do you think about
944s	this upcoming match I think it's going
946s	to be really good um both teams I feel
948s	like you know I'm sure somebody on their
950s	team is like no no no he's wrong about
951s	this but I think they're about equal
952s	skill level which means it should be
954s	really really interesting and um like I
956s	said when you have such a history of
958s	matches that means that you know both
960s	teams know that the other teams can
961s	bring out some like really crazy stuff
963s	so uh they're going to have to prepare a
965s	lot to basically be able to beat each
966s	other um I think like we're already
968s	getting crazy matches and I think this
970s	is one that's going to be potentially
971s	one of the best of the day calling it
973s	now you know match two best of the day
975s	match two bday so a strong prediction
977s	yeah match one was pretty good match one
979s	was pretty good yeah you ask yeah sorry
982s	I thought match one was great I thought
983s	my was really good too yeah okay I see
986s	two wrong
988s	opinions no I'm not not so sure about
990s	that all right well let's talk about
991s	let's talk about wrong opinions let's
993s	have some predictions uh what do you
994s	think uh this match is going to see I'm
996s	expecting to see some counting on next
998s	to side they're very good at it it's
999s	traditionally what they bring um they
1001s	are execution team for sure uh Bart any
1004s	thoughts uh kiting medium guns kiting
1008s	medium guns interesting and uh mystical
1011s	might probably expecting to see some
1014s	badens I I I feel like there's going to
1015s	be some laser spam from templus maybe I
1018s	think Exodus also flew some armor cores
1021s	in the feeders mhm so I'm expecting like
1023s	armor versus Armor maybe some control
1024s	setups or just High DPS okay and in
1027s	terms of like win lose who who you going
1029s	for Exodus exus win Exodus will win
1034s	mhm I'm going go with tempas we're going
1036s	to be contrarian just starting off you
1038s	know what just keep it going the whole
1040s	time because twitch chat is never wrong
1041s	let me check what they think uh so
1043s	twitch chat think templ is calive um so
1047s	I am going to align with my my good
1049s	friends out on the internet uh and also
1051s	go for tempas calive in that case
1052s	because I've never ever seen twitch trap
1054s	be wrong uh it's a it's a famous thing
1056s	they're always correct hello twitch chat
1058s	I see you there uh they were wrong last
1060s	time that is a good point uh thank you
1062s	uh twitch chat pointing out that twitch
1063s	chat was in fact very wrong in the last
1065s	match um I hope uh you guys get some of
1067s	your channel points back because that
1068s	was 2 million Channel points that
1069s	everybody lost uh I'm just looking to
1071s	see if we have the bands and we do I can
1073s	have a look at the bands here now so
1074s	tempas calv versus exus tempas are
1076s	Banning out the Armageddon Navy issue
1078s	the hyena um exus Banning out the
1081s	crucifier and the Loki those were the
1082s	first round bands in the second round uh
1085s	templus banned out the typon flea issue
1086s	and the orthus and exodus Bing at the
1089s	arbitrator and the Sentinel so a lot of
1091s	ewar especially like tracking disruption
1092s	taken off the field by The Exodus team
1094s	that does kind of say hey we're going to
1095s	bring some maybe like Long Range Guns so
1097s	I think you might be right there Bart
1098s	but what else do you see in these bands
1099s	here uh I also see that you know we have
1101s	the hyena gone so that's kind of one of
1103s	the anti- kite or the kiting ships
1104s	especially with light missile setups and
1107s	we have the lokon which is kind of the
1108s	Lynch pin of the ham rush I would say so
1112s	um yeah I I'm kind of I'm going to stti
1115s	with what I said I think we're going to
1116s	see some longrange guns uh I do feel
1118s	like the kiting is still going to happen
1119s	though so uh it's it's open now like
1121s	it's really really open it looks good
1123s	for that it is extremely open mytical
1125s	mate any other thoughts on this one I
1127s	think it's quite interesting to see how
1129s	the new band format has led to basically
1131s	the removal of a bunch of tracking
1132s	disrupting ships on The Exodus side and
1134s	whether that actually applies to that
1135s	strategy or if the trash is trying to m
1137s	game the enemy enemy team yeah is
1139s	something that we'll probably have to
1140s	see but I I think it's a cool little
1141s	band system so yeah so the bands this
1143s	time uh you do two blind bands uh you
1146s	feed them to the referees um and then if
1148s	there's any duplicates there's a round
1149s	of duplicate ban so if both of you ban
1151s	the same ship in the first round you get
1152s	an extra ban and then there's a second
1154s	round of blind bands as well so um we'll
1156s	have some some more information on the
1157s	Bands a little bit later in the show for
1159s	you guys but it's a bit of a change up
1160s	in the way bands have been done for the
1161s	last while uh personally I think it has
1163s	a little bit more chaos in a good way
1164s	and like you say m we have a bunch of
1166s	these uh ewar ships all removed moved
1169s	and uh Exodus I I think Barts you are
1173s	going to be right on what they're
1174s	bringing um I still think I'm going to
1177s	go with twitch chat and go with tempas C
1178s	though uh and I think we can go over to
1181s	the arena to see this match and exodus
1184s	are bringing a flagship so let's head
1185s	over now and see who wins
1195s	[Music]
1202s	bringing dual Armageddon and a lot of
1204s	drone damage meanwhile what have uh
1207s	templus C or Exodus brought yeah Exodus
1210s	has decided that they're going to bring
1211s	their Flagship piloted by sabotage here
1213s	so he's going to be uh the only rapid
1216s	heavy ship these other gons are going to
1218s	be uh giant curses supported uh you know
1221s	by the Ashima for the longrange webs and
1222s	then you've got the ponti and the Magus
1224s	4 links and uh going with uh T2 armor
1228s	logib Bots and a purifier and Hound is
1230s	an interesting choice I really like the
1231s	option to you know bomb drones off or do
1234s	long range uh damage with things like
1236s	javelins yeah and you can do a lot of
1238s	damage to the Armageddon that we see
1241s	from templ Kos and in fact The Last
1243s	Spartan in the Armageddon is the first
1245s	primary from uh Exodus in that Flagship
1249s	genon Navy they have rapid heavy missile
1250s	launchers on it it's full NES from uh
1254s	the side of tempas Cal as they've opted
1256s	for full drone damage on their setup
1258s	they're getting some damage on this logy
1259s	now the tal of Mr Falcon first primary
1262s	from them yeah that makes a lot of sense
1263s	to me you know when you commit to uh
1265s	Stratos you know you're jumping a lot of
1267s	points into uh these drone ships and
1270s	you're really wanting to try to get on
1271s	top of the Thalia get webs or something
1272s	on top of it slow it down uh you know
1274s	turn off that um After Burner if you've
1276s	got a tenen it looks like Falcon going
1279s	around 13,400 will be that but a lot of
1281s	drone damage really chunking down that
1283s	Thalia very quickly and I mean there are
1285s	reps coming on top of it but it just too
1286s	much damage for the uh tken so far to
1289s	hold up yeah unfortunately for the Thia
1292s	even with the 10m men just not
1294s	outrunning the light drones at the
1296s	moment but as I say that uh has been
1298s	getting a bit more Health back from that
1301s	Deacon of Von uh getting back into the
1303s	ranges pulling together meanwhile kill a
1305s	542 the first primary uh now from Exodus
1308s	they SWA off The Last Spartan and now
1310s	kill a 542 in half uh Hull at the moment
1315s	yeah I mean they pull the drones on the
1317s	side of um temples C if Mr FAL was not
1319s	breaking they gave up and they're moving
1320s	now to the isimu they're wanting to get
1322s	um you know those bonus webs off uh the
1325s	field and the isimu is relatively not
1327s	that tanky so I understand the reason
1328s	that you would want to call that but I
1330s	mean if killer drops you know before uh
1332s	they really get any damage on the shimu
1334s	we do try to see some NES on top of the
1336s	isimu and now reps um it did take some
1339s	time from uh you know Mr Falcon who was
1341s	running away to really get back on top
1343s	of the isimo in range to get those reps
1345s	but again if they get that get in that's
1347s	going to be a lot of the damage off the
1348s	side of temple they've got a small
1349s	attack bar Fe yeah they have a pretty
1351s	small attack bar and all of that attack
1353s	is in drones meanwhile Exodus has a much
1355s	larger one due to the rapid heavy
1357s	missiles that they put on their gons in
1358s	addition to the uh drone DPS that they
1361s	have brought uh we see a lot of uh
1363s	attack drones out from Exodus as well as
1366s	a couple rep drones they end up trading
1369s	for the ashamu but getting for an ashamu
1371s	definitely worth it for Exodus their
1372s	tholia stays Alive Now regening Shield
1374s	pretty effectively and even though the
1376s	thol and Deacon are being nuded out by
1378s	the armagedon it is only uh the one
1381s	Armageddon remaining oh Mr Falcon just
1382s	gets one tapped here by a drone Cloud he
1385s	was absolutely out of capacitor just
1386s	gets absolutely zeroed now Falcon is
1388s	going to or V viton rather is going to
1391s	be the followup and Falcon's or viton
1393s	rather is moving nowhere fast getting
1395s	Ned out webbed and taking a pounding
1397s	right now yeah those heavy NES even with
1399s	just the one armagedon do a lot to logi
1401s	and short range logi from those te 2
1404s	logi forets as we see this Deon of thone
1406s	go down uh now the points about even 38
1410s	to 40 but the L Spartan about to go down
1413s	and that Armageddon doesn't have a whole
1415s	lot of rep from the rest of his Squad
1417s	and the Dual deacons there and now KF
1419s	have lost the majority of their damage
1421s	yeah so three brand is getting webbed
1422s	down and has absolutely no speed just
1424s	looking on top of him it looks like he's
1426s	getting uh webbed down by the uh support
1429s	of that Magus and that pontifex if they
1431s	can break the Deacon here it will do a
1433s	lot of damage you know to the support
1435s	here but they're trying to get rid of
1437s	the purifier and the Hound on the Exodus
1439s	side once they do that those Torpedoes
1441s	Off the Grid will mean that exodus's
1443s	attack bar will shrink pretty
1445s	significantly yeah but those Torpedoes
1446s	did what they needed to do it's not
1448s	going to apply to an isar it's not going
1450s	to apply to any other Cruisers as this
1452s	Deacon goes down uh the Torpedoes did
1454s	what they needed to do which is kill
1456s	battleships and now these rapid heavy
1458s	missiles from the Armageddon and the
1459s	armageddon's uh Navy issue uh just going
1462s	to chunk through this midsize ships from
1466s	tempas especially without their deacons
1469s	on the grid last Deacon Falls and exodus
1472s	running away with this match now yeah so
1474s	if I'm temp at this point I don't really
1476s	think I can win the match meaningfully
1478s	but I know that sabotage is a Navy
1480s	Armageddon fear you've been in the you
1481s	know shoes of a captain do you still try
1483s	to win the match by going through you
1484s	know the megas and the Pont effects did
1486s	you full commit onto that Flagship uh I
1489s	mean you just do uh the primaries that
1492s	make the most sense for what you have as
1494s	far as DPS is concerned you're not going
1495s	to break a flagship nav Armageddon with
1497s	an isar 2 Strat and a vexer worth of DPS
1500s	you're just going to try to get whatever
1502s	points you can the Mages and the pawn
1503s	effects are the targets that you can
1505s	actually kill uh you cannot kill these
1506s	battleships right now you do not have
1508s	enough damage for them even without uh
1510s	any logy we see the ishar go down oforal
1513s	and templ Cal going to be moving down
1515s	the lower bracket Exodus making a strong
1516s	showing uh from this first match we'll
1519s	see how long it takes for them to clean
1520s	up Temple Cal or maybe we'll see some
1522s	edges of Glory uh but at the moment uh
1525s	the Stratos now the primary from Exodus
1528s	yeah so something we were talking about
1530s	a little bit at you know before uh the
1532s	match in kind of the Green Room is
1534s	talking a little bit about the impact of
1535s	these flagships and what they can really
1537s	bring for your team and so we don't have
1540s	the officer you know heavy NES involved
1542s	but if you're Exodus you know you can
1543s	put uh these officer rapid Heavies and
1546s	you can take a Navy Armageddon which
1548s	will do you know a good amount of damage
1550s	between heavy missiles and the drones
1552s	and really supercharge it and make it a
1554s	really um well-rounded deeper team and
1556s	we can see that you know the Stratos is
1557s	that isar they're dropping very quick
1559s	for Cruisers yeah and even if you're
1561s	cheaping out right uh missiles are the
1564s	one system where uh faction guns are
1566s	actually higher damage than T2 it's just
1568s	not better fitting for the top quality
1570s	of the faction ones uh but either way uh
1573s	whether it's purple or green on this
1575s	Flagship it is bonus damage you get
1577s	bonus damage in those lows you get uh
1579s	extra tank in your local reps as well so
1581s	it's very difficult to kill uh we saw
1584s	not a flagship go down in the first
1586s	match they did not kill fuku Wu who
1588s	wasn't that FL ship uh but this time
1590s	around as we see some damage going on on
1591s	this armag G because there's no local
1592s	rep on it it's just not nearly enough
1594s	with the just one vexer in the statos
1596s	who are now being chunked down the rapid
1598s	heavy reload is here so the next clip
1600s	will take down the stratus I'd have to
1602s	imagine uh but for the time being uh
1605s	just really well played from Exodus
1607s	using their Flagship in the second match
1608s	of the day yeah so we've got you know a
1612s	little bit of time before kind of the
1613s	match wraps up so just kind of
1615s	dissecting this one a little bit looking
1618s	at uh the composition that Exodus has
1620s	brought what do you feel um are some of
1623s	kind of the strengths and weaknesses of
1624s	it because this is a little bit
1625s	different of a setup than what we really
1626s	see um a lot of the teams bring in the
1629s	prelims yeah I think teams are kind of
1632s	showing some new things that we didn't
1634s	see in the prelims obviously in the
1635s	prelims we saw uh Armageddon drone
1637s	control was a thing that a couple of
1639s	teams brought and had some success with
1641s	uh this time around because you have the
1643s	ability to bring your Flagship if you
1645s	think it's going to be a close match it
1646s	makes sense for you to bring the
1647s	flagship and Exodus did that to bring
1649s	the X Factor up against tempas KF we saw
1652s	the bands going into this right
1653s	Armageddon Navy issue and typhoon Fleet
1655s	issue from calf they didn't want to face
1657s	Kings Slayer Exodus knowing that fit
1660s	rapid Heavies to regular gons they had
1662s	this comp ready in case uh Army genon
1663s	Navy is typing Fleet issue were banned
1665s	and then still brought king Slayer and
1667s	that was exactly what tempas KF could
1669s	not deal with this particular time
1671s	around the Dual deacons just not going
1673s	to be able to rep through anything and
1675s	with the purifier on the Hound adding
1677s	DPS up they were able to punch through
1679s	battleships with rapid Heavies on their
1681s	three battleships from exodos yeah so
1684s	for those of you who might be you know
1686s	relatively newer viewer to the
1687s	tournament uh we talk about uh these
1689s	kind of comp archetypes right so we've
1691s	called you know a lot of medium rail gun
1693s	spam you know different names Octodad uh
1695s	talking a little bit about a king Slayer
1696s	setup is when you have three battleships
1699s	that do a lot of damage all at once and
1701s	really what you're trying to do is pick
1702s	apart um something like an Armageddon
1705s	right an ishar EST Stratos or a
1706s	logistics Cruiser say like a guardian
1708s	orer arms at right then you go on the
1710s	reload of your rapid Heavies and then
1712s	you know you pick another ship right and
1713s	you just try to buy time Pick A Part One
1716s	ship you're not trying to win the whole
1717s	game
1718s	outright at once you're just trying to
1721s	you know knock off one thing pull away
1723s	rinse and repeat and a is doing a really
1725s	good job at demonstrating I think a
1728s	really economical Point setup right you
1729s	know you get a lot of damage from the
1731s	you know 14 points in two bombers you
1733s	get you know a lot of value from going
1735s	you know Thal a deacon instead of having
1737s	to spend more points on double Deacon
1739s	and the isimu a ship that's been rather
1741s	underrated in my opinion it makes a lot
1744s	of sense in this composition right like
1745s	what are you going to use to slow down
1748s	your targets right uh when you have all
1750s	these heavy drones that aren't
1751s	necessarily the fastest or you know that
1753s	effective at killing these smaller ships
1755s	the shimu does a very good job at
1756s	webbing down like a deacon and we saw
1758s	that to good effect I mean that's what
1759s	was able to slow down three brand and
1761s	allow that heavy damage from those rapid
1764s	Heavies and those heavy drones to really
1766s	break the lodgy side of templus I
1768s	meanwhile templus uh bringing a drone
1770s	setup that doesn't have a whole lot of
1771s	control right when we talk about control
1773s	we're talking about trackon disruption
1774s	missile guidance disruption uh ECM all
1777s	of that stuff that is used to shut down
1780s	the other team without necessarily
1781s	killing their ships uh this time around
1783s	tempas CA brought just drones and didn't
1786s	have any ships that were bonused and
1788s	therefore could not fit uh any sort of
1790s	guidance disruption which would have
1791s	helped them perhaps in this match so the
1793s	comp not doing them any favors and they
1795s	tried Banning out king Slayer Exodus
1798s	sees that and picks King slair and it
1800s	works perfectly well into tempas K we
1803s	see 22 seconds left in the match it's
1804s	just the pawn effects remaining for K
1806s	none of the battleships died from Exodus
1808s	and with that moderator what are your
1810s	final thoughts before we send this back
1812s	yeah I mean both of these teams are good
1813s	sports many of them have known each
1814s	other for quite some time in local
1816s	they're saying you know give each other
1818s	you know hell in the lower bracket I
1819s	mean templis going down here means that
1821s	uh they're likely I believe to face
1823s	fraternity but I'm sure the desk will
1824s	know more about that um as we you know
1827s	send it back to the break and then send
1829s	it back to the desk to really give us a
1830s	further analysis on this
1835s	match back an exciting match there
1838s	another example of twitch chat being
1840s	wrong uh I'm beginning to think that you
1841s	guys don't know what you're doing uh but
1843s	what an exciting match Bart we were
1845s	discussing what we were seeing there
1846s	break it down for me well uh we got to
1848s	see a uh very very interesting setup of
1851s	kind of what we used to call uh King
1853s	Slayer King killer uh there was a triple
1855s	rapid heavy missile launcher Battleship
1857s	setup with a flag Battleship um they did
1861s	what they were supposed to do and they
1862s	just nuked massive amounts of damage
1863s	onto people and uh it was It was kind of
1865s	interesting I liked how they had so much
1867s	more n power than we usually see because
1868s	you know back in the day it would be
1870s	like typhoon Fleet issues and such like
1872s	that so uh it was really cool they they
1874s	did tons of damage uh completely
1876s	unrep couple they did lose their logy
1878s	which you know that happens it doesn't
1880s	really matter though when you still have
1881s	your battleship core and unfortunately
1883s	twitch chat was wrong you and I were
1885s	wrong Misty was right which he's very
1887s	happy about and
1889s	that that was that that was that Misty
1891s	that was a lot of gons are Armageddon
1893s	going to be a popular ship in liance
1894s	tournament 20 well the gon Navy is yeah
1897s	well there was four gons on that field
1898s	as well uh I think gons are interesting
1902s	they do have a new Range bonus which
1903s	makes them kind of cool to bring along
1905s	I'm not sure how often we're going to
1907s	see them outside of a few select teams
1908s	that maybe have practiced together I
1910s	don't know if um these two teams have
1912s	had a chance to to scrim together and
1913s	kind of develop the meta in the same way
1915s	or the same direction I'm expecting to
1917s	see a lot more
1920s	like gun gun battleships really like AB
1923s	badens I'm expecting to see you know
1925s	bowon more considering the number of um
1927s	flagships that we have um so yeah we'll
1930s	see I always find the Drone heavy comps
1932s	can be a little bit HIIT or Miss because
1934s	I mean you have drone flight time you
1935s	have to deal with um you have the fact
1937s	that you can be defanged if you have
1939s	damage drones out you can't have red
1940s	Bots and vice versa so you kind of have
1942s	to make some some decisions there and of
1944s	course if you face uh some team that has
1946s	uh like long range it can take time for
1948s	all those drone CLS to move around if
1950s	they're just kiting different directions
1951s	which is what you should be doing um now
1954s	that match is over we can talk about the
1956s	next match and that is going to be
1957s	between Platinum sensitivity and whole
1959s	control uh and I do believe we can show
1960s	you the band so let's bring up the bands
1962s	um and it looks like Plum sensitivity
1965s	Banning out the stalk and the bifrost uh
1968s	as well as the hyena and the jto
1970s	meanwhile whole control Banning out the
1972s	slip the Loki the Armageddon Navy issue
1974s	and the prophecy Navy issue uh black bar
1977s	P what do you make of these bands
1978s	uh so we saw armag Navy issue bands it's
1981s	been one of the main bands for ever
1983s	since the rework a few years ago um s
1986s	and Loki is a very classic like we don't
1988s	want to be minmatar rushed those are the
1989s	two key ships though nowadays you know
1991s	we have keles which work pretty well as
1993s	well um armagan Navy issue and the
1995s	prophecy Navy issue also two very solid
1997s	bands if you brand the prophecy Navy
1998s	issue it makes it a little hard to field
2000s	some of these armor medium gun setups uh
2002s	armagedon Navy issue we've seen them in
2004s	every match all two of them so far and
2006s	uh they seem to be doing pretty well and
2008s	could be an attempt to maybe trick one
2010s	side or the other into doing a flagship
2012s	um I don't know off the top of my head
2015s	uh if that's what their plan is because
2017s	I can't read their minds and if you
2018s	could then we'd be way better be like oh
2021s	yeah I know exactly who's going to win
2022s	this one yeah so uh yeah that's pretty
2024s	pretty solid bands on the low end the
2026s	bifrost and Stor band on Platinum
2028s	sensitivity though those are very
2029s	interesting because that basically means
2031s	you can't bring uh a shield kite setup
2034s	So in theory until they do they do
2037s	anyway yeah yeah yeah I think we don't
2039s	know what we're talking about half the
2040s	time anyway so mystical Minds speaking
2042s	of lack of knowledge what else do you
2043s	think about these BS I was just going to
2045s	say someone in twitch chat correctly
2046s	said that garlic is unbanned and garlic
2048s	in this case is the Squall so Squall
2050s	very Point efficient ship um I thought
2053s	it was interesting that plat was Banning
2054s	out the the two destroyers the stalk of
2056s	the bifrost but also removing the Jack
2058s	door as well towards the end um it's
2060s	removing a lot of The Shield lower end
2062s	like the support Wing that you would
2063s	have in a shield setup um but I don't
2066s	really think that these ships matter
2067s	that much much when it comes to Shield
2069s	Rush which you know the Nighthawk is
2071s	still open you still have all the
2072s	squalls open um we've seen Platinum
2075s	sensitivity run onyxes in their Shield
2077s	Rush before so they still have all of
2079s	these ships available and the battle
2081s	cruiser core of a shield Rush is what
2083s	you would be pulling your links on
2084s	anyway MH so by removing the stalk on
2086s	the bifrost it doesn't actually make
2087s	much of an impact on the potential
2089s	setups they could bring but it also
2090s	pushes everyone towards armor setups
2092s	quite a bit so the estate you've got the
2095s	Navy bres Navy harbingers all of those
2097s	core ships are still open for people to
2098s	bring if they wanted to so you might see
2100s	a lot of like gun spam um which is
2103s	basically just going to be like eight
2104s	DPS ships doing range uh range damage
2106s	out to like 50 to 80 km awesome and uh
2110s	just a quick word on uh the points
2112s	system so we have increased the points
2114s	used to be you can only bring 100 points
2116s	now you can bring 200 points uh that
2118s	would be ridiculous if we didn't do
2119s	something else so we also increased the
2121s	points of the ships themselves as well
2122s	so some of the ships are like 50 points
2124s	instead of last year they'd been 25 um
2126s	this gives us more granularity so the
2128s	difference between a two-point ship and
2129s	a three-point ship is like 50% more
2131s	points uh now that would be like a twoo
2134s	ship and and a four-point ship and
2136s	there's an extra point in there so you
2138s	can be more granular and say this one's
2139s	three this one's four etc etc so it
2140s	allows uh CB zealous to get into his mad
2143s	cooking cave and come up with uh uh just
2146s	I think this is the most amount of
2147s	individually pointed chips we've ever
2148s	had in any tournament uh it's a lot more
2150s	fine granularity uh and of course I'm
2153s	sure the 3D Crafters enjoyed that
2155s	greatly I'm sure it did not uh give you
2157s	any trouble whatsoever you just had to
2158s	count to 200 instead of 100 it really
2160s	can't be that difficult um I think we're
2162s	pretty much ready to head over to the
2164s	arena this is going to be platin versus
2166s	whole control I want to see what twitch
2167s	chat thinks on this one uh yeah they
2169s	also think Platinum Sensitivity I agree
2170s	with twitch chat this does make me
2172s	concerned uh for for platinum
2174s	sensitivity based on what's happened so
2175s	far but I think I'm going to stick with
2177s	it and go for platinum sensitivity Mr
2178s	Gite plat plat all the way disc re eror
2181s	is also going to be cheering on Plat as
2182s	well yep yeah I mean it's it's a it's a
2184s	team favorite for at least I know all
2186s	three of us so okay
2188s	okay so it's PL plat plat plat let's
2192s	head over to the arena
2195s	now I'm moderator once again joined by
2198s	my good friend here feur Vina and we
2200s	have on the side of hle control a looks
2203s	like kind of a mixed um combination of
2206s	control supported by a Vindicator for
2208s	heavy damage and platinum sensitivity
2209s	really going for drone control yeah
2212s	drone control a cop that we saw a couple
2213s	times during feeders the stool
2214s	Armageddon uh just regular Armageddon
2216s	which has the Drone bonus uh obviously
2218s	and full NES on those gons alongside two
2222s	arbitrators which are going to make life
2224s	really difficult for jeta in that
2226s	Vindicator uh the only real source of
2228s	damage from his team to Able one
2231s	providing those links in the Eos and uh
2233s	probably going to be some rep Dron so
2234s	we'll see what he drops uh that said uh
2237s	this is all going to be on Nick wiro the
2239s	only source of screen for this armor
2242s	control comp to keep this Vindicator off
2244s	of Mark GES and Kent
2248s	I like how we already see the tracking
2249s	disruption or the guidance disruption
2251s	rather go on top of the Squall the only
2253s	missile ship so those arbitrators doing
2255s	what they can here and the MS of sead
2258s	doing good work to try to get some uh
2260s	damage on top of the arbitrator but um
2263s	really it's going to be difficult for
2264s	this Vindicator to do a whole lot of
2266s	anything this match so the EOS in The
2267s	Vindicator getting nuded out already by
2270s	uh Kent larus and Mark Bridges going to
2271s	have those bonus ranges and as this
2274s	match goes on that Vindicator is going
2275s	to be even you know more uh difficult to
2278s	get cap on top of it but that EOS
2279s	initially of Nick's getting webbed yeah
2282s	currently screened up and if you screen
2285s	your screen uh might not be necessarily
2288s	the best thing The Vindicator still a
2290s	gante ship so a bit faster than these
2291s	armagedon but needs to get on top of
2293s	something to get those 90% webs that are
2295s	oh so important the EOS is currently
2298s	webbed by I'm looking at it uh a couple
2302s	of different ships but is also being
2303s	nuded out by the curse yeah it looked
2305s	like the eos's were actually kind of
2307s	counter tackling each other and if I'm
2310s	the uh you know EOS of nyck what I
2312s	really want to do is I want to get on
2313s	top of that Vindicator right at
2315s	Vindicator is going to have a hell of a
2316s	time punching with you know kinetic
2318s	thermal into the resist of an EOS which
2320s	is going to be very good at holding on
2322s	to that and the EOS of teble one is
2325s	taking a lot of n pressure right taking
2327s	a lot of paint it's going to get a lot
2328s	of drones on top of it and an EOS nuded
2331s	out is going to be in an absolute world
2333s	of her um you know the curse of dvesta
2336s	is doing its best to you know new out
2338s	Nicks but you know a curse cannot
2339s	compete with the output of two gettin no
2343s	it can't uh unfortunately and the other
2345s	bers of the curse completely useless
2347s	this time around it is twice this
2349s	tournament now that we've seen curse
2351s	arbitrator these track and disruption
2353s	ships go into a drone setup and not be
2356s	able to use really any of the bonuses
2359s	that make them good in a tournament
2360s	format right on TQ you think about the
2362s	curse as this really powerful nuding
2364s	ship and it has these tracking
2365s	disruptors that are also really powerful
2368s	uh here in tournament space a lot of the
2370s	times the cse's big utility comes in the
2372s	form of the Dragon disruption and the N
2375s	pressure comes towards Lodi but not
2377s	towards these big battleships which
2379s	completely outdo it so right now there's
2381s	not a ton of damage on the grid right
2383s	now there's some drones that are going
2384s	after what looks like the backline and
2385s	support but really what's going on is an
2387s	absolute capacitor War right and it
2389s	looks like solidly Platinum sensitivity
2392s	understands the assignment here right
2393s	they're getting NES onto the Vindicator
2394s	the EOS the onos and the curse right all
2397s	of the most crucial ships of whole
2398s	control really doing their level best to
2400s	make sure that I mean once the Ono is
2402s	completely cap it's not going to be able
2404s	to put much in terms of rep you know
2407s	output to support the core and if the
2409s	Vindicator you know has its gun shut off
2411s	at you know by a combination of tracking
2413s	disruption and not having any capacitor
2415s	you know your battleship that might be
2417s	used to doing nearly 2,000 damage does
2419s	nothing yeah Jack rowand in the aneros
2422s	right now not tackled up but still
2424s	taking uh quite a bit of drone damage as
2426s	he is nuded out
2428s	only going less than 400 m a second uh
2431s	in that anus and it's being taken down
2433s	pretty quickly because the heavy drones
2434s	are able to get on top of them and jce
2436s	Rolland now in low structure goes down
2439s	for First Blood Platinum sensitivity
2441s	taking out the t2 logy yeah so when
2443s	you're going 300 km a second in noo what
2446s	that means is you have no capacitor
2447s	right he couldn't even have a propulsion
2449s	mod on to even get away those Armageddon
2451s	absolutely closed in Chase so yeah the
2453s	vexor of micro an athema might go down
2456s	but Theon has died so what means for
2458s	platinum sensitivity they're going to go
2459s	after the Pont effects what which is
2461s	what they're doing now the Links are
2462s	going to fall off the grid then you go
2464s	for you know some of these other support
2466s	ships and without a no neros I mean yeah
2469s	the vexer might die but Plum sensitivity
2471s	is going to walk away with this at this
2472s	point yeah definitely we saw Nick wiro
2475s	and the EOS go for that screen on screen
2477s	action with the EOS versus EOS fight but
2479s	in the background uh micro in the vexer
2483s	was able to get tackle on top of the
2484s	Vindicator we see he's scrammed at the
2486s	moment uh getting some new pressure on
2488s	him as well and the 90% web can really
2491s	only hit on to one Target right now and
2493s	that is macro Mark brid is in the
2495s	Armageddon also being L down by some
2497s	miscellaneous stuff on the hole control
2498s	side but uh this Vindicator absolutely
2501s	useless for hole control at the moment
2503s	Platinum sensitivity dealt with it
2505s	neutralized the flat threat incredibly
2507s	well yeah and the curse of devesta
2509s	getting caught in the kind of the
2511s	backline again having really no
2512s	propulsion uh really being shut down by
2515s	the Armageddon yes the curse has a bonus
2517s	to Med medum NES but one thing medium
2519s	NES don't beat is heavy NES and again
2521s	looking at warari the Confessor does go
2523s	down here going 200 m a second again
2526s	means you're completely capped right uh
2528s	Platinum sensitivity look at their
2529s	control bar they've just been applying
2531s	the big Zuck the entire time in the
2533s	whole control um they've got nothing to
2535s	show for it right now so for those who
2537s	haven't seen the tournament before we
2538s	can talk a little about the control bar
2540s	what it is is a bar that tells you how
2542s	many modules that apply eware effects
2546s	have been used by Platinum sensitivity
2548s	it doesn't tell you what the E effects
2550s	are but it tells you you know your NES
2552s	your trackon disruption your guidance
2553s	disruption uh your webs anything of that
2556s	nature that affects enemy ships that
2558s	isn't DPS that gets lumped in the
2560s	control bar so it is as wide as it needs
2562s	to be and it gets filled up the more of
2565s	those control modules are used Platinum
2568s	sensitivity uh this time around we see
2570s	the ball or is completely used they're
2571s	using all of their control all over
2573s	whole control out controlling the
2575s	controlling worm holers as it were
2578s	uh but for the time being Platinum
2579s	sensitivity just picking through the
2580s	lineup whole control unfortunately
2582s	didn't bring the right comp to deal with
2584s	Platinum sensitivity and their drone
2585s	control setup yeah I would absolutely
2587s	agree with you I mean we saw that
2588s	Platinum sensitivities wide control bar
2590s	absolutely filled up whole control and
2592s	they're also going to be uh filling some
2594s	skins into their coffers for winning
2595s	this match a whole control um going down
2598s	into the lower bracket and uh you know
2601s	we talked about Platinum sensitivity win
2604s	sometimes being a little bit messy but
2606s	really only messy against like a top
2607s	eight top 12 um Team historically
2611s	Platinum sensitivity has been making it
2613s	into the top six making it into the top
2614s	eight really being a final um weekend
2616s	team and showing an armor control setup
2619s	and just dominating with it is really
2622s	indicative of you know that high
2624s	tournament pedigree that uh Kent larus
2626s	Mar Bridges really do bring to the table
2628s	Yeah and meanwhile whole control right
2630s	uh we think of them as uh finished worm
2632s	holers C2 C5 wormers that type of thing
2635s	um they did bring on some members of uh
2638s	tuskers last year in jeta and to Able
2641s	one we see them in The Vindicator in the
2643s	Eos this particular time trying to bring
2645s	some of that tuskers experience in
2646s	theory crafting unfortunately didn't
2648s	quite work out for them this year and
2649s	they're going to be moved down to the
2650s	lower bracket this year as well we'll
2653s	see how they deal with that moving into
2656s	uh the next couple of matches in that
2658s	lower bracket for the time being
2660s	Platinum sensitivity they're picking
2662s	apart the last members uh g t able one
2664s	and the EOS going down into structure
2666s	right now and then it'll just be the
2667s	mallus I would like to see an edge of
2669s	glory in the mallus uh but that is just
2671s	me currently not tackled down by
2673s	anything and uh of course being an time
2676s	honored at tradition can you beat uh the
2680s	boundary record well he is on top of a
2682s	beacon right now so we'll see what's
2684s	going on I mean both of these teams are
2685s	being very um you know sporting to each
2687s	other a lot of good fights in local I
2689s	mean again Mark uh Bridges and Kent
2692s	larus we hype them up a lot but you know
2694s	these teams know each other um they've
2696s	got some experience most of the players
2698s	in this match have been part of the
2699s	tournament Community for you know few
2701s	years um and they've kind of all got
2703s	that experience and kind of understood
2706s	um you know that friendly uh
2708s	relationship and a little bit of a
2709s	rivalry between each
2711s	other uh the mollus is spoling the mjd
2714s	so now the Edge of Glory they go trying
2717s	to get away from these Valkyries we'll
2719s	see how far they pop out as they are not
2721s	currently tackled getting some bumps in
2723s	for the Valkyries and there's the Edge
2724s	of Glory I saw about 170 km on that and
2727s	with that we're going to send it to a
2728s	quick break and when we return the desk
2729s	will break that down and bring us into
2730s	the next match we'll see you right after
2733s	this there you have it plant of
2735s	sensitivity taking the win twitch chat
2737s	you were right well done you have
2739s	improved it only took three games to get
2740s	your eyes in so we're very proud of you
2742s	here at CCP Games headquarters
2744s	congratulations on all your channel
2746s	points that you have just inherited
2748s	mystical mate what happened in that
2749s	match it was very slow it was
2752s	very intense match controlled some might
2755s	say some it yes there was control
2757s	controlled aggression controlled
2759s	aggression um mindful setup I would say
2763s	I it seems like teams are SC more
2764s	towards you know two battleships control
2767s	Wing I think plat uh Platinum
2769s	sensitivity has probably practiced with
2770s	fraternity because they basically ran
2772s	the same archetype um I think the only
2774s	difference was that frat had armagedon
2776s	navies um Platinum sensitivity one well
2782s	well that do frat didn't yeah frat just
2785s	just making sure you knew okay okay okay
2788s	glad glad we cleared that up yeah um and
2792s	now I have to remember where I was
2793s	that's good no okay so it seems like a
2795s	lot of teams are going for the the Drone
2797s	control setups I think that h control
2799s	had a really hard time because we saw
2801s	the two arbitrators actually have a
2802s	positive impact in the match um when
2805s	going up against drones because
2806s	arbitrators can fit tracking disruptors
2809s	or guidance disruptors um effectively
2811s	these modules will lower the range of an
2813s	enemy ship um either the gance
2815s	disruptors for missiles the track rups
2817s	for guns um when you're going Going Up
2820s	Against drones you can't do anything so
2822s	um we saw that they could actually do
2824s	something to The Vindicator and
2825s	historically The Vindicator already has
2827s	a teeny tiny range um so unless it was
2830s	on top of something it wouldn't be able
2831s	to do any damage and because the fact
2834s	that they had a good lower lower end on
2836s	their team means that they're able to
2837s	effectively hold down the Vindicator
2838s	while the gon Ned out and then it's just
2840s	a slow grind to get rid of the rest of
2843s	the ships on the whole control team so
2845s	very slow but very controlled um yeah
2848s	they had maxed out the control bar in
2850s	the UI uh if you've been watching the
2852s	tournament before you'll have seen that
2853s	there's a couple of different uh bits of
2855s	information on the screen for you the
2856s	control bar is uh basically anything
2859s	like electronic warfare uh tracking
2861s	disruptors guidance disruptors uh NES
2864s	all that kind of stuff uh and as you add
2866s	more of them the bar gets bigger and
2868s	their bar bar was very big in fact uh
2870s	maxed out so they had tons of ewar and
2872s	whenever I was looking at it it was
2873s	mostly on uh like being applied so so
2877s	yeah I think those uh tracking and
2878s	guance disruptors would have done a lot
2880s	of damage to that poor whole control
2882s	team uh now bar I also noticed that
2884s	whole control brought a
2886s	Squall uh what's a Squall and why would
2888s	you bring it in an alliance tournament
2890s	comp so the Squall is a newi is E online
2893s	spaceship uh there's a couple different
2895s	reasons for it I the big thing about it
2898s	is it's really really cheap like in this
2900s	specific tournament setting it's I want
2903s	to say it's like four points and they
2904s	have a ton of mid slots they actually do
2906s	a lot of damage which is kind of crazy
2908s	um I think in this specific case it
2910s	probably it might have had some missile
2912s	launchers but I think they were using it
2913s	as a remote uh sensory boostering ship
2915s	which would have been helpful if there
2917s	was ECM but there wasn't so it is what
2918s	it is um but I think we're going to see
2920s	a lot of them we saw a ton of them in
2921s	the feeders because it turns out you can
2923s	turn them into uh ham Rush boats as an
2926s	industrial ship that do several hundred
2928s	DPS and move very fast so uh we should
2930s	see a lot I think um I expect to see
2932s	more especially once ham rushes start
2934s	and uh yeah they're they're pretty cool
2936s	it's different we used to see
2937s	Industrials for you know as the remote
2939s	sensor booster ship now we're seeing
2941s	them as DPS ships yep I mean it also has
2943s	a massive gargo hole so it can hold cap
2945s	charges for for all of his best internet
2947s	spaceship friends uh so should they need
2949s	more to keep themselves alive for
2951s	example they could uh they could
2952s	jettison them sometimes you see Advanced
2954s	Techniques um such as that being
2956s	employed by some of the top tier teams
2958s	um you'll if you have spare slots uh
2960s	spare cargo uh in your ship even if you
2962s	don't need to put anything in it just
2963s	put cap charges in there because if you
2965s	die you become a cap charge resource
2967s	then and then you're still valuable in
2968s	providing use to your team even from the
2971s	grave uh our next match I'm excited
2973s	about it so I want to start talking
2974s	about that because it's going to be we
2976s	form Volta versus Brave Collective Now
2979s	Brave and Volta uh two pretty you know
2983s	experienced teams uh Brave have had a
2984s	pretty good run uh in the past a couple
2986s	of times Volta have uh gone all the way
2989s	to Second they've been third a couple of
2991s	times and back in the old days Alliance
2992s	tournament 10 um uh as Veria collapsed
2995s	they even won an alliance tournament so
2997s	they're a very experienced team this
2998s	will be a bit of an up uphill battle for
3000s	brave I think but the brave team has
3003s	historically uh shocked some people from
3005s	time to time but the best part of it
3006s	this one is our casters for this match
3008s	uh our star leet Commander leader of VTA
3010s	and ferina who is in Brave so uh I'm
3013s	expecting to see some some salt and
3015s	maybe some tears but let's take a look
3016s	at the bans for this matchup so Volta
3019s	Banning out the arbitrator the crucifier
3022s	The Sentinel and the EOS and brave
3024s	Banning out the Jack doll the orthus the
3027s	and the carries so a lot of small stuff
3030s	a lot of ewar especially tracking
3031s	disruption and G disruption being banned
3033s	out here but what else do you see from
3036s	these Bens the the one that's really
3038s	weird to me is getting rid of those uh
3040s	damp frigs because they're really not
3043s	that useful anymore in my opinion um the
3046s	issue with them is that you know you're
3048s	taking up a lot of points for frigs that
3051s	can be countered by just getting closer
3052s	to the opponent uh the only way you can
3054s	really use them is if you have ECM at
3056s	the same time um or you know there's an
3058s	old old school drone damp meta but it
3060s	doesn't work as well anymore cuz you can
3061s	can't put 75 damps on grid so the brave
3064s	bands are a little weird uh I get the
3065s	jack on orthus getting real light
3067s	missile ships you know especially
3068s	against Volta who people think is going
3071s	to kite a lot of times and they are kind
3072s	of known for bringing these like light
3074s	missile kiting uh setups against teams
3076s	they maybe not necessarily think they're
3078s	way better than them but they kind of
3079s	are it's their way of disrespecting them
3080s	as like yeah we'll just cite you you'll
3082s	we'll kill you like we do on TQ uh BTA
3085s	bands pretty solid I mean it's
3087s	you know the really top tier teams don't
3089s	like getting guidance disrupted and
3090s	eos's are incredibly powerful in any
3093s	armor setup it's like I mean we've seen
3094s	them in every single match so far so you
3096s	know there's a reason for it yeah that's
3098s	a good point and Misty while Bart was um
3100s	I believe the term is yapping on about
3102s	the about that you had some um
3104s	disagreeing looks in your face there
3106s	when he's talking about the frigs I
3107s	think that the damp bands are an
3110s	interesting reaction to the fact that
3112s	they've then seen the initial arbitrator
3115s	and was it the crucifier ban initially
3117s	arbitrator CH so after seeing those
3119s	bands they're like okay vta's trying to
3121s	remove tracking disruptors or guidance
3123s	disruptors which implies that Vault will
3125s	be wanting to maintain some some form of
3127s	range like B said you could just get
3130s	closer but that's not always the easiest
3131s	thing to do and damps are a really good
3133s	way of preventing you from being able to
3135s	reach out and Tackle something
3136s	especially if you bring something like
3138s	Loki um if you damp it down it won't be
3140s	able to web at long range which makes it
3142s	very very hard for the rest of your team
3143s	to get on top of a Target um so I think
3146s	it's interesting that they've responded
3147s	to these initial bands that would remove
3149s	some form of range control um and
3151s	they've responded with their own bands
3153s	to make kiting more difficult you're
3155s	still going to have you know your hugan
3157s	your rapers your lokis if you want to
3159s	bring those but um it'll be much harder
3163s	for you to to screen Everything at Once
3165s	if you don't have that ew war on grid
3167s	yeah I mean Volta does love to bring a
3169s	good old hyena as well they're notorious
3172s	hyena enjoyers um so that ship is still
3174s	available and I think I agree with you
3176s	that um the the m and the carries
3178s	they're they're useful bands I would
3180s	have probably banned more long-range
3182s	webs though what do you think B yeah I I
3184s	think that uh especially against a team
3186s	like Volta I like hyena and then
3188s	probably hugan I mean you can't get rid
3190s	of a raper and a hugan and a hyena at
3192s	that point with only two bands but at
3193s	least rapers are significantly more
3196s	killable than a hugan is uh that that
3198s	extra low slot is a big deal especially
3201s	in the alliance tournament um I think
3203s	that that's because the issue is that if
3205s	a good pilot is in a hyena they can shut
3207s	down your entire ability to get anywhere
3209s	and so it's like yeah damps are good but
3213s	you still do have to get in range at
3214s	some point and if you have a good pilot
3216s	that's like doing perfect range control
3217s	which we've seen before where somebody
3219s	locks down like five ships by just
3221s	cycling webs it's rough so I like I said
3224s	I agree with what Misty said I think
3227s	that these are kind of weird bands and I
3229s	don't know if they're the correct ones
3231s	the only thing I can think of for uh
3232s	Banning out these damping ships that
3234s	might Brave is a bit uh bit cooky at
3236s	times they might try and bring like a l
3238s	Shack based comp and damps can really
3240s	mess up um anything Travian because you
3242s	can just like cancel the spill by just
3244s	swapping damps around onto different
3246s	chips and then all of a sudden your lock
3247s	range has decreased bang your spool is
3249s	gone and that could be really impactful
3251s	the Shacks are very expensive points
3252s	wise we don't see them super often but
3254s	when we do see them they can be
3255s	extremely effective especially against
3257s	other Battleship heavy comps where they
3259s	can just spool endlessly any thoughts
3262s	M I believe that brave is probably going
3264s	to bring a rush or something that they
3266s	want to be super I think Banning webs
3268s	instead of the damps would make it
3270s	harder for them to get on top of things
3271s	I think they probably benefit more from
3273s	having webs on their team than Volta
3274s	will have you know from having webs on
3277s	on their team um just due to the
3279s	inherent range control that Vol is going
3280s	to be going for um in terms of
3282s	positioning um I'm not sure about the
3284s	lasack I think if I saw three tracking
3287s	disrupted ships kind of like banned on
3289s	the enemy team the lasack could be
3291s	pretty good but you might want to
3292s	actually finish off that line and go for
3294s	the curse and go for the pilgrim or
3296s	something like that so by leaving those
3297s	two ships in you still have the
3299s	potential for track and disruptors and
3301s	track and disruptors will put your
3303s	lushack into the trash can so um is true
3306s	I'm I'm thinking they're going to go for
3307s	a rush so keep it simple going up
3309s	against vter they're going to hope that
3311s	vter messes up positioning that they're
3313s	able to get on top of something kill it
3315s	really quickly move on um and just kind
3317s	of braw their way through awesome well I
3319s	think we should head over to the arena
3321s	and find out who's going to win between
3322s	we form Volta and brave Collective with
3324s	the Caster starlake commander and Fe
3331s	welcome back to the arena my name is
3332s	Fana joined by the lovely start fleet
3334s	commander and on the blue side we have
3336s	Brave Collective My Alliance as you can
3338s	see by my lovely shirt bringing a king
3340s	Slayer setup but also with quite a bit
3342s	of control in that curse and Pilgrim
3344s	what have Volta brought well volter have
3345s	gone for a ham Rush Nighthawk with two
3347s	lokis Fleet Tycoon and some Cyclones and
3350s	a scalpel Kier and schools now isn't
3352s	this an important match for us isn't it
3354s	uh ex Coalition mates Brave and vter
3356s	back B2 before uh MTI and fraternity
3359s	ruins that all for us unfortunately he's
3362s	on the desk so we can't really get our
3363s	revenge on him at the moment but either
3365s	way Brave and Volta a lot of history on
3368s	TQ over the last couple years and we're
3370s	seeing actually uh Volta doing the pull
3373s	back towards mjd play off the start of
3374s	the match for The Rush not immediately
3376s	going in they're going to try to play
3378s	and get on top of one of these armag
3379s	Navy issues and try not to be screened
3382s	by this Muller and this vexer that brave
3384s	had brought a difficult game for bra I
3387s	think a lot of damage from the vter team
3389s	I think a good play to go for the mro
3390s	jump Deacon but obviously Brave can
3393s	position themselves to get out of that
3394s	if they want to also this is the first
3396s	match today we haven't seen Armor All
3398s	the other matches today I've had gons
3400s	and obviously vter my guys bringing in
3401s	some ham Rush straight from the feeders
3403s	F the same comp so the pilgrim and the
3406s	curse interestingly we don't see any
3407s	guidance disrupture going on to the we
3409s	form VTA side quite yet we'll see how
3412s	that works um it's you know when you
3415s	bring a pilgrim in a curse uh most teams
3417s	will bring a mix of guidance and
3419s	tracking disruption in order to help
3421s	against the enemy team also those
3423s	longrange NES on the pilgrim and curse
3425s	uh very very nice to have if they're
3428s	rushing directly into you and we see
3429s	Brave actually start to close the
3431s	distance because they don't want to be
3433s	100 km away from this mjd Beacon that
3435s	Volta are playing on Volta right now
3437s	literally getting ready to jump uh in in
3439s	a moments here but obviously Brave
3441s	realizing that moving in closing the
3442s	distance but I think this is the problem
3444s	with doing these jumps you have to get
3445s	there quite quickly and position really
3447s	fast otherwise you're going to jump over
3449s	jump yeah and of course no flagships
3451s	being brought in this one Brave has a
3453s	Balor Flagship so uh this time around
3456s	the extra tank not necessarily available
3458s	from these battleships and it's a lot of
3460s	damage from this ham rush we see the
3462s	mgds begin to spool for Volta as they
3464s	move in actually hold on no the mold is
3466s	webbed they're burning back in they're
3467s	burning back in and in fact uh that
3469s	gives Braves screen the opportunity to
3471s	go in but we see one of the armag Navy
3473s	issues actually playing a bit far
3474s	forward that's enen Leon in the
3476s	armagedon Navy issue playing forward and
3478s	actually trying to screen for the rest
3480s	of the backline as the ham Rush starts
3482s	going in covert one and the Cyclone is
3483s	the primary from Brave Inquisitor is
3485s	Webb from Brave that would be the
3486s	primary for the volter team definitely I
3488s	think the good move here I think they
3489s	should get rid of those logi frigs on
3491s	the volter side they need to get rid
3492s	them otherwise they're going to lose I
3494s	think the Cyclone obviously taking
3495s	damage this going to be a hard match for
3496s	for vter I think and we see the G
3498s	disruption actually going on on the nigh
3500s	Hawk of stiggy MAA at the moment as well
3502s	as some other targets Cyclone of covert
3504s	one still on low Shield The Inquisitor
3506s	of andari actually staying alive for a
3508s	bit longer than was perhaps thought now
3510s	she is webbed and scrammed up and
3512s	there's damage going on to loose mucus
3513s	in the Mer but the Cyclone of covert one
3515s	now into low armor and covert one will
3518s	be first blood for brave Collective
3520s	covert one about to go down and chist
3521s	now in half armor I mean that he's
3523s	trying to hold on as much as possible
3524s	this is such a bad trade honestly guys
3526s	First Blood goes to Brave amazing G is
3529s	about to go down as well they need to
3530s	get down the other one straight away and
3531s	work on these damages on on the G don't
3533s	they so brave going for the damage
3535s	efficient traes taking out these squall
3536s	next instead of focusing on the
3538s	Nighthawk and the lokis meanwhile the
3540s	curse of bro Bentley getting some damage
3542s	on top of him right now although he's
3544s	not currently tackled at all the only
3546s	people that are tackled are this
3547s	Inquisitor of K Carn effect who doesn't
3548s	have anyone to rep him up and duuk wanai
3551s	in the Navy armagedon isue as we see
3552s	pretorius in the Squall go down the next
3555s	Squall is uh zap in going down as well
3558s	and brave is actually doing a really
3560s	good job of the rapid Heavies of taking
3561s	down the low end of we for Volta doing
3564s	really well obviously Volta now
3565s	realizing okay logi frig down let's just
3568s	go for thean navu they've figured out
3569s	they can try and break the Reps I think
3571s	this is the right play for volter they
3573s	need to get the big ships down if they
3575s	waste any more time with the lower ends
3576s	they're going to lose they're going to
3577s	have Whittle down you know they're going
3578s	to lose their ships aren't they yeah so
3580s	they've got of course five DPS ships
3582s	currently up and available xiaan in the
3584s	Squall very low in Shield at the moment
3587s	but the Rabid Heavy Clips are on reload
3589s	so that Squall has not gone down quite
3591s	yet DJ W I currently sitting about one
3593s	qu armor remaining and doesn't have any
3595s	reps now the Rabbid heav has have
3596s	reloaded and the Squall goes down of
3598s	zaps and they're going to go for zebidah
3600s	in the next squ as well trying to get
3602s	the DPS efficient trades off but then
3604s	they need to take off the Cyclone Fleet
3605s	issue if they have any chance of winning
3607s	this match but doju ey in the armag get
3609s	Navy issue now into structure it's not
3611s	looking good for bra super close to
3612s	dying right now and as soon as they get
3613s	that g Navy issue off that's a lot of
3615s	damage gting off and a lot of control
3617s	gone off the grid for brave a big win
3619s	for vter but the game is still not over
3621s	as a school goes down for zebar the
3623s	damage is coming out from from the
3624s	volter team I'm not really too sure what
3626s	the going go for they're going to go for
3627s	The Inquisitor I think get him off
3628s	quickly get those reps away but this is
3630s	still a tight match yeah bravon a
3631s	supreme leader on the Cyclone flu issue
3633s	now it's the next obvious Target when
3635s	you're dealing with a rush setup you
3636s	want to go for uh much like Dread braws
3639s	uh higher DPS over lower ehp is
3641s	typically the more efficient way to do
3643s	it in terms of uh damage but in terms of
3645s	points that's not necessarily the thing
3647s	as we saw the squalls go off the grid
3649s	after that cyclone and it makes for a
3651s	really efficient trade for brave but
3652s	they still only have rapid Heavies on
3654s	one boat and the logi is still alive for
3656s	reform vter that said Navy armag nuding
3659s	out the scalp on the Kieran they're not
3661s	repping anything at the moment no and
3663s	also Kane is doing a fantastic job
3665s	wasting time right now he's in structure
3667s	but he's still holding on volter now
3669s	decided to go for the arm again of enig
3671s	which I think is uh a good idea they've
3673s	got five minutes left and need to just
3675s	Whittle it down the is basically out of
3676s	the game at this point he's really far
3677s	away he's nowhere near the isue I think
3680s	volan need to get the damage down they
3681s	are holding though supreme leader ma is
3684s	sort of stabilizing but he's dying a bit
3686s	buying a bit much so Planet 6 and no
3688s	proo in the logi fs really talented loif
3690s	Pilots I'm sure they're trying to manage
3691s	their cap as best as they can I guess
3693s	yeah under the heav pressure of a Navy
3695s	Armageddon One n a piece obviously
3697s	there's still the curse in the pilgrim
3698s	as well getting the fast cycle medium
3700s	NES I expect are getting those NES out
3703s	as well and the fleet Cyclone do not
3705s	have any hardeners we saw the reload
3707s	come out from enen Leon and is now
3708s	shooting supreme leader once again so
3710s	they will be able to take him down
3711s	meanwhile en lean going down a lot
3713s	slower than you expect a rush comp onto
3715s	a Navy armag and I'm not exactly sure
3717s	what Volta is thinking about right now
3719s	they now have the primary DPS on end and
3721s	he's now in 2/3 of the armor and he's
3724s	tackled up but supreme leader ma staying
3726s	alive in the cycl fleet issue because
3727s	there isn't that second rapid heavy
3729s	threat at the moment I mean NY in the
3731s	arag Navy she's dying too slowly with
3733s	Supreme deal going into armor he will
3735s	drop here I'm not it's not looking too
3737s	good for the vter team I mean he is in
3738s	half armor now maybe the pace is run out
3740s	I think for the armagan Navy issue he
3741s	might be dropping now but obviously the
3743s	cycl F she goes down if he goes down the
3745s	DPS does a lot well The Inquisitor reps
3747s	are out but also Brave has a massive
3749s	amount of rep bots on their team with
3751s	this curs and this Pilgrim the megus the
3753s	pona all and the vexer and the mer all
3755s	having rep Bots onto this Navy
3756s	Armageddon if they can get this Fleet
3758s	Cyclone might be able to keep the
3760s	Armageddon Navy a little bit for a
3762s	little bit longer 10% structure
3763s	remaining on enen Leon supreme leader
3766s	still in he's holding on for dear life
3769s	right now if ven Leon goes down this
3770s	match goes the way of Volta and he's now
3772s	into structure en and Leon in the VA in
3774s	the armor get Navy isue uh now into half
3777s	structure they're trying to take
3778s	down he's holding on for dear life Volta
3782s	with the rush into the king Slayer of
3783s	brave are going to take this match
3785s	Armageddon Navy issue down and that is
3789s	all the DPS off the table for brave
3790s	Collective a valiant effort from them if
3793s	I may say so myself but uh unfortunately
3795s	I'm going to have to take the Big L that
3797s	we saw Misty take uh on the desk earlier
3800s	I see uh CCP overload starting to run
3803s	into the room with the casters bringing
3806s	the L for me to wear but uh uh you know
3810s	I think he's here we go there there
3812s	there we go thank you overload uh but oh
3815s	dear but regardless uh you know uh Brave
3818s	Collective obviously uh didn't have a
3820s	whole lot of scream for this vola comp
3822s	they did a decent job of trying to shut
3824s	down this Nighthawk early on but
3825s	unfortunately for them they just ran out
3827s	of steam and lost their Armageddon Navy
3828s	issues and uh congratulations I mean I
3831s	mean let's just sit back for a second
3833s	here I mean Brave did a fantastic job
3835s	I'm sorry absolutely incredible job vter
3837s	clearly getting a bit of cold feet there
3839s	I think at the beginning they're kind of
3840s	bit not really too sure what to do here
3842s	for their target calling but they
3843s	managed to get it back uh and and get
3845s	the win uh which is good job guys by the
3847s	way uh hopefully hopefully they keep
3850s	going forwards and obviously Brave going
3852s	to lose this bracket be playing later I
3853s	think uh I think match I think they will
3855s	be playing later um so we'll see who
3857s	they play uh next I think is the next
3860s	the loser of the next match I think is
3861s	who Brave play uh don't quote me on this
3864s	but it might be right I think it is um
3866s	OB see right now bit of a clean up right
3868s	now um supreme Supreme Leader Mau
3870s	obviously an absolute legend holding on
3872s	that was a close shave and also Kane I'm
3873s	going to give a big shout out to Kane
3875s	holding on an Inquisitor on his own
3877s	burning away wasting a lot of time the
3880s	volter team did waste a lot of time on
3882s	him I mean he's X blob he's one of your
3884s	guys originally right well there we some
3886s	got some good pilots in there haven't we
3888s	bit of a clean up right now isn't it
3890s	fair yeah just a a cleanup for we from
3892s	VTA they're chasing down you know the
3893s	brave Collective side um these Recon you
3896s	know obviously go off to the other side
3897s	of the arena and do what they do from
3899s	range which is what the pilgrim and the
3900s	Mages or and the uh curse are good at
3903s	but now the pilgrim goes down Len reden
3905s	ends up falling and you know Volta
3907s	getting the cleanup uh not showing a
3909s	whole lot that we haven't seen in
3910s	feeders obviously bringing uh Nighthawk
3913s	dual Loki Rush um surprised that we
3915s	haven't seen a whole lot of that in this
3918s	tournament outside of feeders thus far
3920s	but uh I'm interested to see if any of
3923s	the other top teams are going to bring a
3925s	comp like Rush that we've seen before
3926s	and try to hide things moving forward in
3928s	the tournament I think also some also
3930s	good fights in Lo right now um everyone
3932s	saying what a great fight yeah I
3933s	completely agree I mean VTA VTA
3935s	literally flying the same thing as in
3937s	the feeders the same sort of archetype
3939s	comp and all the matches we saw today
3940s	were basically being battleships uh yeah
3943s	uh a lot of battleships except for the
3945s	first match where we saw uh till
3947s	doomsday take down take down frat with
3949s	uh nothing but uh battle Cruisers and
3952s	Below uh drones K car effects in The
3955s	Inquisitor going to be the last last
3956s	blood and the Mages of Arcos dock stays
3959s	alive to uh the end of the match bra
3962s	Collective going down lower bracket
3963s	Volta moving on and with that we're
3964s	going to take a quick break when we
3966s	return the desk will break that down
3967s	we'll be right back after
3970s	this welcome back we for Volta taking
3973s	the W and handing uh the L to Brave
3976s	Collective that was my favorite match of
3977s	the day so far that was a very exciting
3979s	match it was really touching goal for
3980s	quite some time there uh especially with
3983s	um I think it was ma in the the the
3985s	cyclone was like holding on for be life
3988s	at one point I thought he was going to
3989s	drop before the gon went down but they
3991s	managed to hold on the two logi frigs of
3993s	Outlaw no proo and Planet 6 doing a
3995s	great job they would have been under a
3996s	lot of n pressure during that fight but
3999s	they managed to keep him alive and then
4001s	they took the win but yeah that was a
4003s	bit of a bit of a touch and go one bit
4004s	of a squeaky bum moment for VTA I am
4006s	sure moderator welcome to the desk hey
4009s	I'm glad to be here you've uh you know
4011s	allowed me to escape the uh the casting
4013s	dungeon and I'm back on the desk with
4015s	you guys and excited to be here yeah
4016s	we're excited to have you here so that
4018s	was a great match uh I want to talk a
4020s	little bit about the use of Lodie frigs
4021s	because usually um it's bit easier to
4023s	use Tech 2 Logistics Cruisers but you
4026s	can only bring one logy Frets you have
4027s	to bring a pair there are Le less points
4029s	and we saw Brave bringing Tech 1 versus
4032s	uh Volta bringing Tech 2 tell me a
4034s	little bit about why you would bring
4035s	logi F instead of a logic Cruiser mod
4037s	well part of what's going on there is
4039s	points economy right so a pair of logi
4041s	frigs right if you bring two of the same
4043s	kind The Tech 2 so double Deacon we'll
4045s	see aot lot right that's 20 um2 points
4048s	because of the you know double Point
4050s	rule there we saw a um The Shield one
4054s	the Kieran and the other one whose Name
4056s	Escapes me right now I'm sure twitch
4058s	chat will remind me that I do not
4060s	remember how to play the game but that's
4061s	20 points and really what we saw going
4064s	on there is that those are cheaper
4065s	significantly right than having to bring
4068s	something like an a guardian right or a
4070s	zarm zad or um really any of those you
4073s	know Cruisers and what that allows you
4076s	to do right is you can spend more of
4077s	those points on anything else in your
4079s	composition however on the side of Brave
4082s	when you go for you know a pair of you
4084s	know tech one ones you don't spend as
4086s	many points but they don't tank as well
4087s	of course um you know as their Tech 2
4090s	counterpart yeah and then bar I also
4091s	want to talk a little bit about um the
4093s	use of Rapid heavy missile launchers
4096s	normally missiles go bur but with rapid
4098s	Heavies they must stop think about what
4101s	they've done and reload and that takes
4102s	some time so there's like a a clip of
4104s	missiles that that go in you have some
4106s	strong opinions on these gons here yeah
4108s	um well so far they've been Vindicated
4110s	because we' have seen a lot of uh gon
4112s	Navy issues today um and we've seen a
4115s	lot of losing rapid heavy getting Navy
4117s	issues and we've kind of talked about it
4118s	uh for a few years when the change first
4120s	came out they're also bonus to lasers
4123s	and lasers also go Burr and they look
4125s	really cool and I think that there's
4127s	been a couple matches today where I feel
4128s	like the get navies would have won if
4130s	they were laser boats not rapid missiles
4132s	because their damage wouldn't stop for
4134s	30 to 35 seconds um additionally
4138s	like if you're going to double get a
4140s	Navy issue because of the point
4141s	inflation rule you're spending extra
4143s	points that you could do to spend on
4144s	maybe another ship like a redeemer which
4146s	we saw happen all the time last year uh
4148s	we saw so redeemers you know people
4151s	think okay it's a Black Ops Battleship
4152s	if you don't fly it like a Black Ops
4154s	Battleship you fly it like a you know a
4155s	line Battleship they do a ton of DPS
4158s	they're relatively tanky and they also
4159s	have a n bonus like the G Navy issue so
4162s	if you're going to do two battleships
4163s	why not bring a gon Navy issue and a
4165s	redeemer or a redeemer and a Vindicator
4167s	perhaps which uh a certain team who is
4169s	now in the lower bracket basically used
4171s	to win the alliance tournament last year
4173s	so just things to think about um when
4176s	your DPS gets stopped especially versus
4178s	a shield rush and you haven't actually
4180s	taken down a DPS ship or two you're
4182s	you're kind of screwed right and we saw
4184s	it like it looked like they were about
4186s	to kill a fleet cyclone and then their
4188s	damage stopped and then they lost get
4191s	and that was it if they had been laser
4192s	boats they probably won that fight yeah
4195s	I mean it is one of the main problems
4197s	with h with clip based things if you
4198s	don't kill them before you run out and
4201s	their lodgy still alive then all that
4203s	damage you've done is just going to be
4204s	slowly undone uh over over the next like
4206s	30 seconds until you can go back on
4208s	again so you really have to focus on on
4209s	clipping usually is the term uh that's
4211s	used and you also have to try and sync
4212s	up your Clips with uh with multiple
4214s	ships you don't want to be splitting DPS
4215s	it's just easier for the the enemies to
4217s	rep uh and not die but enough about
4220s	about that match let's look at our next
4222s	one this one I think is going to be um
4224s	pretty lit uh it is Tru truth on a light
4226s	versus bright side of death so truth on
4228s	a light the multiple lines tournament uh
4230s	winning team some of the most
4231s	experienced pilots in the game for for
4233s	for tournaments just straight up end of
4236s	sentence bright side of death are also
4238s	not a sledge they have done pretty well
4240s	they they have certainly got the ability
4242s	to uh to knock down truth on the light
4244s	let's take a look at the bands and see
4246s	what these teams are choosing to ban out
4248s	so truth on the light Banning Out The
4250s	Jacka The Curse the Armageddon and the
4252s	Armageddon Navy issue meanwhile uh the
4254s	bright side of death team Banning out
4255s	the zarm the slep the Widow and the
4258s	crucifier moderator what do you think
4260s	about these bands so what truth onor
4261s	light is really saying is God I hate NES
4264s	because they've decided that they're
4265s	going to get rid of you know the curse
4267s	which does a really good job at
4268s	projecting long-range medium NES you get
4270s	rid of aedon and it's get a navy and
4272s	you've gotten rid of really what are the
4274s	two primary um you know Battleship
4276s	longrange heavy NES and this is not
4278s	again a meta where you're allowed to
4280s	bring you know Flagship uh heavy you
4283s	know bonus NES but still you know those
4285s	T2 n
4286s	are no joke right so the gons are pretty
4288s	good at that we see a lot of these uh
4290s	boats you know they just fit seven newes
4292s	in their high slot and they're like hey
4294s	we're not going to do a ton of damage
4295s	but we're going to do the big suck and
4297s	if you have no capacitor you can't win
4299s	um so that's what I'm seeing here The
4301s	Jacka is something that um has a lot of
4305s	utility as a ship you know you have
4309s	those mids slots five of them you can
4310s	fit a lot of um you know things like
4312s	remote sensor boosters Target painters a
4314s	lot of uh support even in an armor
4317s	composition as strange as it sounds you
4319s	know you just throw a bunch of Target
4320s	painters you throw a lot of seos on
4322s	there and it just becomes utility boat
4323s	so THL clearly they've seen something um
4327s	I know they've been scrimming uh some of
4329s	these you know Russian teams so bad
4331s	being um what we consider to be the
4333s	second best Russian team they might have
4335s	a clue as to what's going on with the ru
4337s	meta this year yeah I think NES are was
4339s	an interesting one in a lot of Al
4341s	matches because the longer the match
4342s	goes on the more oppressive they become
4344s	because the capacitor is gone and then
4346s	you can move on to another ship and
4347s	leave just one on that ship and you
4349s	slowly reduce the effectiveness of any
4351s	ship and it's just this sphere of nting
4354s	death if you get too close to especially
4355s	if you're in a small uh Ship Without a
4357s	capacitor booster you might just be
4358s	completely dead in the water uh
4360s	vindicators famously uh do not enjoy
4362s	being n to DED they just turn off and
4364s	become useless 54 Point bricks I think
4367s	um they look great just to be clear very
4369s	nice ships but um very useless when they
4371s	get nuted out um bar any other comments
4374s	on these bands here I I think it just
4376s	really does show you know something like
4378s	the teams are thinking differently like
4379s	trth HL went with very basic standard
4382s	bands because they're kind of like well
4384s	whatever um we'll see what happens and
4387s	uh whereas the bright side bands are
4388s	like like nobody has bands a widow we
4391s	probably won't even see a widow like I
4392s	would be surprised if we see a widow in
4395s	more than one match in the entire
4396s	Alliance tournament but if there's a
4398s	team that could bring one and do it
4399s	correctly it would be truth honor light
4400s	because they're kind of famous for kind
4402s	of weird off-the-wall control setups
4405s	like that so so it's uh kind of there's
4407s	a little fear I think I think bright C
4409s	death has a bit of fear here yeah there
4410s	has been um a couple of like heavy ECM
4413s	based comps from some of these top tier
4414s	teams Hydra reloaded uh versus VRA
4416s	reloaded in one particular final I'm
4418s	thinking of uh when there was I believe
4419s	uh chameleon broad ECM bonus chip uh and
4423s	a lot of like I think there was also
4424s	like Rooks and Falcons and stuff as well
4426s	just lots of ECM heavy uh control comps
4429s	now there's a bit of a dice roll uh but
4430s	the Widow if you're going to roll a dice
4432s	it has a very loaded dice it's a very
4433s	strong bonus to those uh those new
4435s	strength so it's probably a good good
4437s	chance of getting Jen by one of them so
4439s	Banning it is a good idea yeah and Hyer
4441s	they've got a history of bringing widows
4442s	right they had a special comp that was
4444s	based around these kind of endgame final
4446s	weekend Widow comps and bright side they
4448s	may have some you
4450s	know insight into kind of the history
4452s	book and being like wow those comps that
4454s	we saw that were good in the past are
4456s	still decent this year and we really
4458s	don't want to deal with that so we're
4459s	going to ban it out and just not have to
4461s	you know worry about that this match
4464s	yeah so I think we can head over to this
4465s	match cuz it's going to be an exciting
4466s	one we have a new Caster in the booth
4468s	now we have all the way from Down Under
4469s	we have Wingnut cross uh joining
4471s	Starfleet Commander so let's head over
4473s	for that
4478s	match welcome back to the arena I'm
4480s	staffle Commander with me I have wing
4482s	nut and on the grid right now in front
4484s	of you we have a quick match don't we
4485s	truth on a light uh bringing a basically
4487s	medium rail spam and what a be of
4489s	brought well they heard the Met memo we
4491s	do the exact same thing see differ
4493s	differences here a lot of damage AB
4495s	prophecies half navies we got the whole
4497s	kickle it's going to be an aggressive
4499s	fight and they even warped in pretty
4500s	close too yeah they're warping angles
4502s	right now so they both obviously Waring
4503s	from different directions but the where
4504s	they are they're literally about 50 or
4506s	40 or 50 km from each other so the
4508s	damage will come down really fast as the
4510s	match does get on the way I think the
4512s	first primaries here are key who they go
4514s	for first and we're going to see right
4516s	now I think a perfect a really good
4518s	choice for be they went Deon th that's
4521s	crazy going straight for the Lodi and
4522s	honestly they might actually get it look
4523s	at that th went down straight to half
4524s	armor into already gone boom oh wow THL
4528s	wasting no time at all thano down I
4530s	think the Deacon will be next um but I
4532s	think well bid need to make a decision
4534s	as they do go for the AUG do you think I
4536s	mean with these matches do you think the
4538s	pace is what matters doesn't it exactly
4539s	that especially time comes like this the
4541s	they paid for the double LOD FRS against
4543s	an a here they should be get putting a
4544s	lot of damage down they're not doing too
4546s	well they're starting to go for the or
4547s	but they're already losing ships doing
4548s	that it's it's going to start just
4550s	steamrolling one way already yeah I
4552s	think I mean Beast would really need to
4554s	get some tackle or gets something on the
4556s	Oro he is bur he's he's miles away Lucas
4559s	is a season logy pilot knows what he's
4560s	doing I think B they're not really too
4562s	sure what they're doing as the Deacon on
4564s	their side goes down I mean that's kind
4565s	of it yeah I mean they're kind of really
4567s	on the back foot here The Omen of
4568s	control freak is now taking damage from
4571s	bord but I think bord really need to get
4573s	some damage down they push the orre away
4575s	fantastic but just focus on stuff around
4577s	exct get some stuff down right now like
4580s	I said the or is a mile away he's gone
4581s	somewhere else everyone's bringing
4582s	damage I can't see many LOD drones it's
4584s	just like full damage going
4585s	they're losing their entire comp they
4586s	haven't even killed an omen yet they've
4588s	got five DPS ships that Omen should be
4590s	obliterated from this planet The Omen
4592s	wasn't tackled so control freak just
4594s	burn away back to the ly and he's got
4596s	reped come back now as the harbinger of
4599s	for Harbinger Navy issue is about to go
4601s	down I mean THL the execution you know
4605s	placing last year doing fantastic last
4607s	year they have the strong Pilots strong
4609s	cordination and strong Target recording
4610s	and it shows here exactly they're very
4612s	well te B is not a particular like sleep
4614s	te they've done some great matches
4615s	they've had some great calls but this
4616s	just seems like they've been entirely
4618s	outskilled and out play just destroyed
4620s	from the start I mean literally um THL
4623s	lost an orro uh he's down but I think
4626s	it's h too little too late I think uh no
4629s	he's he's no okay he just got killed
4630s	fair enough I think he just I think he
4632s	died I think yeah fair enough got
4634s	boundary but I think it's a bit too
4636s	little too late too on that on that
4638s	front I think BW definitely trying to
4639s	just scrap and getting some points right
4641s	now THL obviously massive commanding
4643s	lead and what a difference from the
4644s	match you had today this was a quick
4645s	match compared to what we've witnessed
4647s	today I up comes in the games are over
4651s	you know within 3 minutes they heard the
4652s	sirens call of damage man it's it's the
4654s	way it is and honestly it's exactly that
4656s	it was a very quick game and even even
4659s	these kind of matches right they are a
4660s	full damage rush but you still got to
4661s	play it correctly and Truth on the light
4663s	showing okay we're going to play this
4664s	perfectly with these matches literally
4666s	the first I say 30 seconds are the most
4668s	important thing the first Target you go
4670s	for if it doesn't if it doesn't break we
4672s	saw a be they went for the visual lots
4673s	of damage landed did not break on the
4675s	other hand th
4676s	annihilated T2 LOD friets with resist
4679s	they managed to kill them both in
4680s	seconds like that's game immediately
4682s	it's like okay these things are meant to
4683s	be hard to kill it's already gone Lally
4686s	as good fights going local I think B
4688s	lots of good fights lots of um yeah in
4691s	local which is really good obviously the
4692s	Absolution of MERS about to go down but
4695s	I think I mean could B won this one do
4697s	you think they could have won B do you
4698s	re they could have honestly what you
4700s	said the first 30 seconds that initial
4702s	Target calling cuz they could go for
4703s	something bigger kill it and maybe win
4704s	the damage rate but it's always that
4706s	first call if you get it wrong in these
4708s	kind of high damage comps you basically
4710s	given up the comp you basically like
4712s	kneecap yourself it's like okay well now
4713s	we don't have the survivability we just
4714s	die I mean the bands do scream on THL
4717s	bands right now obviously the genon get
4719s	Navy issue jacked or curse they kind of
4721s	say like you know we want to we do want
4722s	to bring some armor Cruiser I think and
4724s	obviously on be banning Zam slep with
4727s	and Cru we talked about this before it's
4728s	a bit of a random one interesting part
4730s	as well the get get Navy Band is
4731s	actually kind of a band against like or
4732s	stopping them from bring or if you get
4734s	rid of the get get Navy the or is
4735s	actually a bit more safe oh definitely
4737s	no yeah the oppression is not there so
4738s	they could safely bring new org and they
4740s	probably know their flags and everything
4741s	so they probably thought this is a safe
4742s	safe bet for us on the other side they
4744s	brought T2 logi FRS which does give more
4746s	points obviously it makes it so you can
4748s	have a bit more of a higher higher top
4750s	end but obviously it didn't work out I
4752s	mean I thought the I think the visual
4754s	for THL which is why it was the main
4755s	target was the was a good call free
4757s	application the entire match and yeah
4759s	Navy about to go Blue there we go well
4761s	and with that we'll take it back to a
4762s	break and then we'll get the analyst to
4764s	talk about it
4769s	welcome back truth honor light there
4770s	doing a bit of a speedrun to Victory uh
4773s	with a lot of medium guns price head of
4775s	death uh they lost a ship in seconds uh
4778s	turns out if you bring uh lots of medium
4780s	guns you can just press F1 make the
4781s	enemy go away much easier to win the
4784s	match uh Bart tell me what happened
4786s	there yeah uh so Tree on light basically
4789s	brought a massive amount of DPS which so
4791s	did right side to death the comps were
4793s	very very similar with a couple
4794s	different chips but the the intent was
4796s	the same um the issue for bright side of
4800s	death is that they brought logy Frets
4803s	with mwds so they're kind of easy to hit
4807s	and Truth honor light is like it's such
4809s	an experienced team that they had locked
4811s	up Target painted and killed the logi
4813s	frig in the first like 5 Seconds of the
4815s	match which if they had been three or
4817s	four seconds slower the Lodi friet would
4818s	have been going to fast they would be
4819s	able to take it down as soon as that
4821s	happens it's like okay well now you're
4822s	down to a single logistic ship truth on
4825s	lights warpin were a little bit better
4826s	too and uh their augurer which is a
4828s	tech1 Lodi Cruiser which is probably the
4831s	only tech1 Lodi Cruiser that you ever
4832s	see with armor was too far away um so TR
4835s	th light was able to head shot logi they
4837s	then could just do whatever they wanted
4839s	I mean it was a what 4 minute and 10
4841s	second match which is pretty dang fast
4843s	like we usually don't see them much
4844s	faster than that uh 7,000 DPS and medium
4847s	guns probably the the thing I liked
4849s	about it is that this is the team that
4851s	people are like oh they're this crazy
4852s	execution team they have crazy plans
4854s	they took basically the second simplest
4856s	comp like the simplest I'd say is a
4857s	shield rush and just like okay yeah what
4860s	if we just do a ton of damage to you and
4861s	you die right everybody else we've seen
4863s	today they've been like oh we're going
4863s	to go control NES and oh we're going to
4865s	bring all these these you know control
4867s	ships and we're going to like do this
4869s	range control and they're just like yeah
4870s	we're just going to press one on you and
4871s	press F1 on you and then your ship's
4873s	going to blow up and then we're going to
4874s	move on to our next match and uh it it
4876s	was fun yep I mean solid execution of a
4879s	pretty you know don't say basic comp but
4882s	um like you you highlighted it yourself
4884s	there are such an experience team that
4885s	as soon as the match started they target
4887s	was called they banked straight onto it
4889s	and they took down uh that Logistics
4890s	frig almost immediately moderator any
4892s	any thoughts on that yeah so we saw a
4895s	little bit of uh you know kind of key
4896s	differences in kind of the the thought
4899s	process behind those comps right so you
4901s	have these micro warp driving you know
4903s	frigs that can do a pretty good job of
4905s	getting from point A to point B very
4907s	quickly but the thing about them is they
4909s	just don't have the rep range themselves
4912s	that a augurer would have and people
4914s	think of this augur is being kind of
4916s	like an inferior ship but it is compared
4918s	to the guardian but it's 20 points right
4920s	so you're spending the same amount of
4921s	points on that as two of those logi
4923s	frigs but it also has greater rep range
4926s	and what that means is that even if you
4928s	are you know taking you know more damage
4931s	initially the Reps can be immediately
4932s	applied whereas in these kind of um
4935s	mid-range setups you like to spread
4937s	around a lot and it could be very
4939s	difficult for the logi frig to actually
4941s	be in range you know of you in time and
4944s	also pH philosophically you bring a
4946s	Vigilant right the idea is I'm going to
4948s	get on top of you're going to play 90%
4949s	webs you're not getting on top of a THL
4952s	comp that's pushing out that much damage
4954s	so you spend all this time and points on
4957s	a Vigilant it's going nowhere THL is
4959s	deciding okay our tackle we're going to
4961s	bring two mullers I'm sure they've got
4962s	some sort of tackle you've got two Omens
4965s	it's got some sort of tackle it's you
4967s	know a very well-rounded setup copy and
4970s	paste or if you're on Mac you know
4971s	command B command C if you're
4973s	unfortunate if you're on Linux I don't
4975s	know what you do I don't keep up but
4977s	copy that setup it's good yeah I mean we
4980s	are of course operating system agnostic
4982s	here uh but uh yeah I'm on a Mac right
4984s	now and uh I can command uh see that's
4986s	that that right now um that was an
4989s	awesome match uh it was just a great
4991s	example of of a top top tournament team
4994s	uh doing what they do really well which
4995s	is coming in executing it bringing
4997s	something solid bringing something that
4999s	as you say B has less Avenues to kind of
5001s	like screw it up like if you come in
5003s	with like some super complicated like
5005s	ewar control comp where you rely on X Y
5006s	and Z to all go right and then someone
5008s	makes a mistake then it can all fall
5010s	apart very quickly uh just coming in
5012s	with it's like you know we have a chef
5013s	like the simplest things or the hardest
5015s	things to actually make and do really
5017s	really well like a you know scrambled
5018s	eggs or something like that that's what
5019s	they always use to test them I think
5020s	it's something similar like if you bring
5022s	something simple like this medium gunsan
5024s	and you execute it extremely well it
5026s	shows like your pedigree as a team and
5027s	like I mentioned before the match such
5029s	an experienced team with a lot of
5030s	experienced Pilots we can actually hear
5033s	from one of those Pilots we have
5034s	spokesperson this Alliance tournament so
5036s	we have some some videos submitted by
5038s	the alliances from a representative of
5040s	that Alliance so let's go to the truth
5041s	onite spokesperson and see what they
5043s	have to say about
5046s	themselves my name is Dexter and I'm
5048s	representing truth on the lights our
5050s	team is a Honeypot of several old teams
5052s	but generally speaking we've competed in
5054s	the alliance tournament several times um
5057s	you know under many different groups and
5059s	names most notably the camel Empire hydr
5061s	loaded Skil you and white flag
5065s	on Tranquility a lot of our players
5066s	reside in a C2 Wormhole of norc static
5069s	so they're just bullying RS and norc
5070s	groups roaming around stuff like that
5073s	and others are mostly chilling in jetto
5074s	at amaki waiting for filament
5077s	rooms outside of EV on line a lot of the
5079s	team like to play the coffin of and and
5081s	lelay which is a immersive Adventure
5083s	horror and watching Attack on Titan
5086s	probity you should not waste any Chow
5088s	points this cuz we're definitely going
5089s	to throw and shout out to VTA for rage
5092s	quitting each tournament and some
5093s	managing to scrape together another was
5095s	that year after year loss after loss
5097s	good luck to all teams and
5102s	have and there you have it so from truth
5105s	on our light there uh anything else to
5107s	say about these guys uh not particularly
5110s	I mean we let's be fair they're they're
5112s	one of the favorites right um they won
5115s	two tournaments in a row they got fourth
5116s	place last year which I think generally
5118s	we almost consider a fluke which is
5121s	something like oh yeah oh they only got
5122s	top four that's kind of a fluke so I I
5124s	don't want to say it's an unexpected
5125s	result um they just they played really
5128s	well it's cool that they used something
5129s	different to to win but then they you
5131s	know they did a throwback compa it is
5133s	what it is I mean we're going to see
5134s	them do some crazy stuff probably
5136s	probably yeah I'm expecting 20 to to go
5138s	deep into the tournament we always do uh
5140s	I think last year was a bit of a
5141s	unexpected drop from them I can't
5143s	remember who knocked them out was it the
5144s	tuskers code that knocked them out to
5145s	the end I think so think so and tuskers
5147s	of course was it not the tuskers no was
5148s	um actually I believe it was uh barcode
5150s	in the lower bracket and then barcode
5152s	lost to the tuskers and losers fin
5155s	and then we had the you know tuskers and
5157s	fraternity where fraternity was able to
5158s	take it uh not salty that my team lost
5162s	you know by the way we can't we couldn't
5163s	tell if you were sure yeah I mean that
5166s	to be hon let's just have a quick quick
5167s	talk about that um that was a extremely
5169s	good Grand Final one of the best in in
5170s	many years in my opinion um the
5172s	defending Champions uh fraternity of
5174s	course uh lost their first match today
5176s	uh that was kind of a bit of bit of a a
5178s	bad start for them so we'll see what
5179s	happens we'll see where it goes but um
5181s	they went down uh 02 in the Grand Final
5184s	last year against against the tuskers um
5186s	and then they came back and they won uh
5188s	3 to2 and it was super exciting uh I
5190s	really loved it and I think yeah we
5192s	should I hope for more of that I think
5193s	truth on the light are going to have a
5194s	bit of a a chip on their shoulder from
5196s	getting knocked out uh lower than any
5198s	anytime in the last like probably five
5200s	years or so uh that that collection of
5202s	Pilots has ever been knocked out so I
5203s	think they're going to come back strong
5204s	this year um but we'll have to wait and
5206s	see of course they will be back later in
5208s	the tournament let's look at our next
5210s	matchup um it is white squall versus
5213s	genin impact Alliance so the bands for
5217s	white squall are the EOS the Loki the
5219s	Blackbird the Armageddon and the
5221s	arbitrator and well genin impact
5223s	Alliance Banning out the sneer EOS hyena
5226s	ishar and the mollus black bar pirate
5229s	what do you make of these bands so we're
5231s	uh we're seeing a blackbird band um
5233s	blackbirds are one of the bestest uh
5237s	sort of ship that you can kind of almost
5239s	slot into any armor setup and they're
5241s	incredibly powerful um so it's really
5243s	it's really cool to see that I've always
5244s	liked seeing Blackbird comps I know most
5246s	people hate seeing Blackbird comps hate
5248s	fighting Blackbird comps and hate
5249s	watching Blackbird comps but uh I think
5251s	they're kind of fun EOS span it's like I
5254s	said it's a great ship it it if you get
5256s	ban to EOS you really mess up your
5258s	ability to fly any armor setup that is
5261s	not like the ones we just saw and then
5263s	of course you know like we got rid of
5264s	the gon okay we we know why or this it
5267s	the gon Navy issue I believe yeah just
5269s	Armon old sorry it's a slightly far
5272s	enough away that I I see the ship shape
5274s	and I the color and I'm like I'm pretty
5276s	sure that's getting all right cool yeah
5278s	um pretty standard bands I do think that
5280s	the uh the bands on ginin impact are a
5283s	bit weird if uh if mod wants to talk
5286s	about that yeah so genin impact Alliance
5288s	besides being you know a group of you
5290s	know weebs um they have they're the um
5293s	essentially the Chinese um Infinity
5296s	Avenger dot Corp of snuffed out they
5298s	broke off from snuffed out for the
5301s	tournament let's see if they can do
5302s	better than the main team but what's
5304s	going on with this one is that you bring
5307s	in EOS if you want to deal do any sort
5310s	of like an armor um you know drone comp
5312s	the Armageddon is also part of that and
5315s	so I can see white Sall with the second
5316s	band saying okay we saw that the EOS is
5318s	earlier now we're going to get rid of
5319s	the Armageddon so drones are basically
5321s	off the board because if those two are
5323s	out you're not really bringing a drone
5324s	comp it doesn't work without that sleer
5326s	is just a generically good uh you know
5328s	Rush setup ship and when you get rid of
5331s	the M you get rid of some damps I agree
5333s	with Bart that's maybe not as good as it
5335s	used to be uh the Blackbird has been
5337s	upoint a little bit this year compared
5339s	to where it has been last year I expect
5341s	to see a lot of um Blackbird bands still
5344s	but really it's just kind of like a lot
5346s	of I don't like this particular ship but
5349s	it's not really focused at anything in
5351s	particular just a lot of very generic
5353s	very annoying ships that they neither
5355s	side wants to deal with yeah I'm also
5357s	curious if white s white squ will bring
5359s	a Squall um of course the the option is
5361s	available to them um and it could even
5364s	be white they could use uh they could
5365s	use a skin make it wide that would be
5367s	pretty cool and I would give them extra
5368s	points just for style um so Bart before
5371s	we talk about this match for another
5372s	like three minutes or so um isar I'm
5376s	looking at this tar but I find that one
5377s	a little bit unusual I I do too um I
5380s	think that so they're not really that
5382s	good anymore in the at so they used to
5384s	be insane like there's been times when
5387s	drones were dominant there's been times
5388s	when drones are being okay obviously so
5390s	far we've seen a lot of drone setups but
5392s	and you know we were talking to Misty
5393s	about it and neither of us are really
5395s	like like these are great setups I don't
5398s	think an Ishtar really does anything for
5400s	a drone setup anymore though it's not
5402s	like you know yelden days where the
5404s	Ishtar was this like 900 DPS Powerhouse
5406s	and you'd bring three of them and every
5409s	single ship on grid was always at threat
5410s	from these just really really fast heavy
5412s	drones so I'm not sure what the plan is
5414s	behind that um you know maybe they're
5416s	just trying to ban out all the ratting
5417s	ships I'm not sure uh you know and like
5420s	moderator said like you ban the EOS you
5421s	ban the genon the ishar is out if
5424s	somebody tries to bring armor drones
5426s	here it's like this is when you're
5428s	trying to force your comp in I I
5432s	don't I could be wrong somebody might
5434s	try and ban or bring armor drones as
5436s	kind of like a we've mind gam you we
5437s	banned armor drones and we still brought
5438s	it but like in this case if you've
5440s	gotten most of the ships that are good
5442s	with it I would be shocked and I think
5443s	you're just going to lose because you
5444s	don't have enough like quality ships for
5446s	it so yeah the estar bands is weird I
5449s	don't yeah yeah I mean the one one quick
5451s	thing on the a tower b sometimes you see
5453s	people bring a Stratos instead uh don't
5455s	do that by the way uh it's a bad idea uh
5457s	it's just kind of crap um but moderator
5460s	what else do you think about these bands
5462s	you you look like have something say
5463s	well when you look at this you can think
5464s	okay so double Battleship control is
5466s	open right you can still bring you know
5467s	Armageddon Navy issue you can still
5469s	bring that Redeemer you can bring a
5470s	shield rush you can bring any of the
5472s	medium gun you know spam that we just
5474s	saw in the last match there's a lot
5475s	that's still open like very traditional
5477s	archetypes you think 10bs well it's a
5479s	lot out there's a lot that's still open
5482s	there is indeed any final thoughts part
5484s	before we head over to this match uh not
5486s	particularly I'm I'm very interested to
5487s	see what they're going to bring on this
5489s	just because some of these bands are a
5490s	little confusing but I thankfully I'm
5491s	going to find out like really really
5493s	soon look what I see on our screen it
5495s	says here this is an exciting
5496s	announcement ladies and gentlemen both
5498s	teams bringing flagships so we might see
5502s	Flagship dies cuz I I one team has to
5504s	win right yes I I hope we see a flag
5506s	according to the rules there will be a
5507s	team that wins this match and one that
5508s	loses and one that loses uh and it goes
5509s	with thir say so hopefully we see a
5511s	flagship go down um in a blaze Glory uh
5515s	so let's head over to the arena and give
5516s	the Cs a little bit of time to talk
5518s	about this one so let's head in for
5519s	white squall versus genin impact
5523s	Alliance welcome mate to genin vers
5526s	white schore and we have a beautiful
5527s	match cuz we have two flagships we have
5529s	a lot of control this is going to be a
5531s	brutal one star my man I want you to get
5532s	started what are we seeing white school
5534s	bringing their flag bow obviously and a
5536s	fleet tempis with ano Sentinel lots of
5538s	ew lots of control and also genjin
5540s	impact bringing their flag I know get
5542s	the Navy issue with another Navy is
5544s	shoot a lot of control sentinals
5546s	assuming there's TDS everywhere there's
5548s	control everywhere I think a flagship is
5550s	going to die today I mean maybe the
5552s	damage bars are not particularly big but
5553s	the control bars are even bigger than
5555s	the defensive bars in most cases this is
5557s	massive amounts of control both teams
5558s	definitely thinking right how are we
5560s	going to play this how are we going to
5561s	get through how we going to hit things
5563s	man how are we going to do anything in
5564s	this game I've got damage but I'm not
5566s	sure how to use it anymore let's see
5567s	what do it's definitely going to be I
5569s	think quite a slow match I think we're
5570s	going to see a sort of ramping build up
5573s	we're going to see a bit of control bit
5574s	of positioning at the start then we're
5575s	going to start getting a gritty nting
5577s	Warfare lots of evil going down with 27
5579s	seconds until the match starts had a
5581s	quick check as well the G navies both
5582s	rapid heavy fit both rapid heavy we're
5583s	going to yeah plenty of damage on the
5584s	grid right now the flag Balor definitely
5586s	going to be fit I mean I wonder toas we
5589s	potentially we'll see big kill mail if
5591s	that's the case but so essentially the
5593s	Balor with a with a um Tas web can
5596s	definitely web out two six km 10 seconds
5599s	second so we're going to see s lock down
5601s	uh straight away and also we got NES on
5603s	the grid everywhere damage is definitely
5605s	lack luster right now as you said as the
5606s	match does begin I think it's going bit
5608s	of a slow burn we're going to probably
5609s	see them just move in position a bit
5611s	more try and get some things lock down
5612s	we see some drones coming out actually
5614s	some sentes coming out look at the
5615s	disruption already coming out we gups
5617s	we've got track we've got damps it's
5619s	just everything's going out both Navy
5620s	they brought a lot of guidance ruptor
5621s	theyve bought enough for both Navy gon
5622s	so they're already being a bit Ked here
5624s	I mean I think right now we're going to
5626s	see a very slow burn and we're they're
5629s	going to sort of move in right now the
5630s	armagan Navy she's slowly moving in
5631s	everything is kind of going to be a bit
5633s	in slow motion until gets locked down as
5634s	soon as things get locked down the BW
5636s	gets started then it starts to happen
5638s	really quickly both teams as well they
5640s	started opposite points as well so this
5641s	is a like I said Slow Burn they're both
5643s	coming from a long distance Balor of
5646s	yabi moving straight in there no
5647s	hesitation EXA he's the flag of the of
5650s	the match he's the B he's got to project
5653s	that b gun is a big old ball of pain
5654s	Webb down on the armagan Navy issue of
5657s	snow so he's looks like to be the first
5659s	Target for the white school team and
5661s	also the fleet um the fleet Tempest
5663s	which I think is the first time we've
5663s	seen that today um is now the primary I
5666s	think for um genin impact I mean right
5669s	now at this point in time this can go
5671s	either way it's I mean I love the Balor
5673s	I love the the oppressiveness of it I do
5676s	like I mean but also you've got the Navy
5678s	armag which also has its own very
5680s	oppressive um NES as well but the NES
5683s	are not shiny no no no faction no no
5685s	faction NES on on neither of these
5687s	flagships obviously the Bon really does
5689s	benefit with the web was super
5691s	oppressive and super long range uh
5692s	around 60 km I think
5694s	no damage yeah do anything no damage
5697s	right now a little damage onto the bone
5699s	we've got some check disruptors and gun
5700s	disrupts just on the two the respective
5703s	ships from both teams are being
5705s	disrupted oh yeah shock horror what a
5707s	surprise so right now we're going to
5709s	probably see just both teams trying to
5711s	gauge a get get through basically I
5713s	think they're going to get in there and
5715s	probably just try and go for something
5716s	small CU ship here is the celestus he
5718s	can potentially at one point turn off
5720s	some of the tracking sh on one ship and
5721s	try and maybe force a hole or maybe even
5723s	take out the logic
5724s	Sor neut but at the moment it's looks
5727s	like they're going for a megas I guess
5728s	it's the Confessor double Confessor
5730s	shooting megas that's good call there
5731s	Confessor are very good for hitting
5732s	things obviously I really like I think
5734s	wi s bringing the nearest I think I
5737s	think that's a really good call I I give
5738s	that as an advantage because he can sit
5741s	back once the BW gets started he can
5743s	stay back and stay out of the N range
5745s	yeah basically stay away whereas if the
5747s	reverse happen the Balor is oppressive
5749s	can just web it down and get it so I
5750s	feel like wat will have a bit of an
5752s	advantage with the anos just so he can
5754s	stay back keep the Reps going while the
5756s	ball's going on and a bit of a nting war
5758s	going on right now um I mean again shock
5761s	horror who would have thought this was
5762s	going to happen the the Bor and the and
5765s	snow nting each other right now um I
5768s	think both teams I think are thinking
5769s	right we've both got off lags and
5771s	they're both being gun shy at the moment
5773s	everyone's kind of thinking right we
5774s	need to be very careful how we get in
5776s	there curator coming out again for Gen
5778s	impact proba to get some damage down I
5780s	think this could I mean this could go to
5781s	TI this is going to go to TI feeling
5784s	unless something suddenly changes some
5785s	team really like I wouldn't say grow a
5787s	pair of balls but you know go in for it
5790s	that the bom could be worth 100
5793s	billon could be worth you know 50 true
5796s	yeah the fleet temp is taking a a smidge
5799s	of damage now he's finally into armor
5801s	he's finally into 99% armor so oh man
5804s	that's that's game over he's actually
5806s	he's actually getting he's actually the
5807s	primary right now taking a bit of damage
5808s	probably from the creators I think and
5810s	probably the Rapids as well taking a bit
5811s	of damage on him uh I mean you think the
5815s	the objective is to go for the
5816s	battleships that's your win condition
5818s	but at the same time it's like if you
5819s	could remove some of the control at the
5821s	back they got tple Confessor they
5822s	actually could go chasing around small
5823s	ships but for like for wh skull the
5826s	confessors I think your win condition to
5827s	start hitting things for genin it's a
5830s	bit harder they went harder on control
5832s	yeah even the isimu is technically more
5833s	of a control ship than a I want to kill
5835s	that thing ship I see looking at the
5837s	positions of the teams right now on the
5838s	screen in front of you we've got the
5839s	balone uh front and center which is
5842s	where he should be and on reverse side
5843s	we got the very close to each other this
5845s	is such a such a comp that you need to
5848s	the positioning and making sure your
5850s	oppressive battleships flagships are out
5852s	in front exactly making a wall The
5854s	Tempest feet issue did burn away uh
5856s	actually he back into the sort of the
5859s	the rest of the team right now he take a
5860s	bit of damage this is where the the B's
5862s	really good right cuz the B can either
5863s	be pushing forward or pulling back and
5865s	being the wall and you see this moment
5867s	he's playing wall he's sitting between
5868s	him and the enemy team and letting him
5870s	come after him N Things away keep them
5872s	slow so this this is the bow like the
5874s	bow of the web is really shining just
5876s	being a real let's be honest I paid in
5877s	the ass to try and get yeah definitely I
5879s	mean one thing they got to be careful of
5881s	is not to get caught in the corner of
5883s	the Arena obviously the arena is 125 km
5886s	radius around the center so there's not
5887s	an infinite amount of space they can
5888s	move into so we'll have to try and
5890s	position them if they want to try and
5891s	kite away and really just delay the you
5893s	know positioning and try and get them to
5894s	make a mistake because I think that is
5896s	what this match is about it's who makes
5898s	the mistake first and both of them are
5900s	way too like not sced both being very
5902s	careful to not make the mistake but in
5904s	not really making any decisive actions
5906s	yet no and also like with 5 minutes left
5908s	obviously it's been 5 minutes guys not
5910s	much has happened a little bit of damage
5911s	tickled on the T issue the thing is like
5914s	no team I've been in a situation where
5917s	you kind of just you you don't want to
5918s	gamble and just go in cuz you're going
5920s	to risk a lot of money going to lose it
5922s	as well we're seeing now the Balor and
5924s	the Armageddon of snow really close to
5926s	each other now so I think they're going
5927s	to start getting locked into a combat
5930s	right now as the balone starts to take
5931s	damage so maybe this is the commitment
5933s	that we look at the B again the B is now
5935s	webbing out the isimu and the Navy genon
5937s	he's trying to still keep range even now
5939s	and yeah the thing as well this kind of
5941s	annoying for genin they have rapid
5942s	Heavies right they can't just start
5943s	shooting they have to pick the right
5944s	time this is the thing right now look
5945s	the Balor has the oppressive web and can
5947s	just get out and just move away Y and
5949s	one thing to note as well the the
5951s	creators that were dropped by genin
5953s	impact are now really far away so I
5955s	think they're basically going to be
5957s	useless at this point and they're about
5959s	20 off of zero so they got a pretty good
5960s	range but they're still yeah you're
5962s	sitting way off curated is definitely if
5965s	going past 60 km it's going to be
5966s	getting out of the damage range I think
5968s	will fall off basically fall at that
5970s	point um but right now Balon and um the
5973s	Armageddon of Slayer so Flagship and
5975s	Flagship right next to each other the
5976s	Balon now taking a lot of damage oh here
5978s	we go it begins the actual brawl and now
5980s	is the time we got to commit um white
5982s	school needs commit the Bon is now
5984s	locked down scrammed and web as well the
5986s	white school the confesses need to wake
5988s	up and start doing things now crucify
5990s	yeah the crucify white score getting
5991s	punished like this thing white score has
5992s	the anti small but there more being
5994s	killed yeah I know he shouldn't be there
5997s	why are you there like you're you're so
5998s	far away from your team and you're
5999s	taking a lot of damage obviously they
6000s	got Theos um to to keep him up but the
6004s	Bal gone yeah going down he's getting
6007s	he's getting punished now for sure I
6009s	wonder didn't actually look that I don't
6010s	think the B would have a reactive right
6012s	surely they put something Fancy on it
6013s	like really shiny you probably want to
6015s	be pimping out as much as you can trying
6017s	to make because you can use you can use
6018s	faction
6019s	um so like you want to you want to
6022s	maximize with the bone you you're there
6023s	for the control web and for the tank
6025s	that's what you there for it's a big
6026s	brick and a big web that's what you want
6028s	a nice
6029s	oppressive yeah the just tapping him a
6032s	bit of reps get him up and the as well
6034s	the bone while he's being pressured it
6036s	is rapid Heavies so he's going to be
6037s	pressure for a while Zoom back up
6039s	pressure for a while back up so the
6041s	question is is can they get through an a
6042s	clip yes exactly and if because he's
6045s	blink there is no resist to try and be
6046s	cheeky with yeah exactly oh hold on
6048s	crisfer I said he was fine and uh he's
6051s	being chased again he's got a lot of
6054s	he's got a lot of Jones but he's got a
6055s	lot of bots him right now he's got
6057s	Hornets on him from gen and he's got a
6059s	lot of bots on him right now but he is
6060s	where is the he is going a bit no he is
6062s	next to he's close enough to get reped
6064s	again we're just seeing nus doing a
6066s	really good job um and I think there's
6067s	clip by the way you no that the damage
6069s	has suddenly died there's your clip but
6071s	here's the thing what have wh School
6072s	done in return while that's been
6073s	happening yeah we've been talking a l
6075s	about the damage landing on wh school
6077s	but not much on gch an impact right now
6079s	I think they're kind of not really too
6080s	sure if you look at the white school
6082s	team they don't have much damage it's
6083s	just a tempestry issue and the B gun's
6085s	guns as well and the B gun gun I didn't
6087s	check unfortunately I don't if actually
6089s	surely it's a gun ball it's not like
6090s	it's um look right now it's definitely
6093s	got some guns in it yeah it's got some
6095s	guns in it I made an assumption there
6096s	I'm not going to lie I mean that full
6098s	new balum would be a bit of a ballsy
6099s	move right now it would be like yeah
6100s	your damage would just be the Tempest
6102s	yeah temp Tempest Fe now taking a bit of
6104s	damage um I do think that the can keep
6107s	it up though yes oh absolutely Tempest
6109s	is like it may be called a tempest but
6110s	Tempest Fleet is a way tankier boat than
6112s	its a T1 cousin and it it can definitely
6114s	with good fitting just become a real
6115s	brick of a ship while projecting pretty
6117s	well genin now trying to get the damage
6119s	across the board we've got sensel taking
6120s	damage crucify taking damage the Tempest
6122s	fish in half armor maybe this is the way
6124s	to get through split the damage and get
6126s	the battleship down I'm looking for
6128s	where the confessors are I'm kind of
6129s	very curious I wonder if maybe if the
6131s	confessors aren't killing small ships
6132s	are they maybe going anti- drone Duty
6134s	are they just drones I haven't seen any
6136s	drones die in the centuries are still
6138s	out out there The Tempest is holding in
6139s	half armor right now we' got he is
6141s	Confessor is shooting DRS he shooting
6142s	drains he's trying to
6144s	oh sentinel's getting lower sen honestly
6146s	guys we've got a minute left so whoever
6148s	kills if the Sentinel goes down they'll
6150s	be ahead on
6151s	points could you imagine losing because
6153s	of one frig oh my God poor Hillary on
6157s	Tank's good Tank's good there we go
6159s	there we go he's back he's back deiro is
6161s	doing a fantastic job just keeping the
6162s	sport up whilst also slowing that
6164s	Tempest that he's dying but he's
6167s	understanding that he can still keep a
6168s	little bit of the support up I think
6170s	also the spent some time they put some
6171s	reps on the on the central P back up and
6173s	now he's probably going to go full B
6175s	honestly you could be a little bit of
6176s	back tank too just keep be just in range
6178s	I mean the problem right now is that the
6179s	Tempest is going to low armor and the
6181s	cenal pressure is still there I think
6183s	that's why the confessors are trying to
6184s	get rid of the drones I think the drones
6185s	are are definitely the the main damage
6188s	on the cenal right now real damage yeah
6190s	I mean Hillary needs to keep this empist
6192s	up crucify going down again oh my that
6195s	was 10% armor that was 10% armor we've
6198s	got 8 seconds 7 seconds on the clock
6200s	until probably going to go to tiey
6201s	reverse tiey reverse tiye guys welcome
6204s	to hypers speed uh which basically means
6206s	that CCP will now speed up the arena so
6210s	modules will start cycling quicker
6211s	exactly and Reps will down faster as
6213s	well but the damage increas is now going
6215s	to be exponential and going to be scary
6216s	for the anus cuz again it's a medium
6218s	medium Cruiser it's reps are on the end
6220s	of the ccle he's got to get quickly and
6221s	flick back and forth it's over one n
6224s	wait what oh it's one n it's one N I
6226s	didn't even look at
6228s	the it's one nil why did we not see that
6233s	let's go go back to the go back to break
6234s	in the studio they can tell us how much
6236s	of a full we are we didn't look at the
6238s	screen we were too busy in the
6241s	M welcome back from one of the matches
6244s	of all time uh here at a liance
6246s	tournament 20 where white squall get a
6249s	technical Victory by one point because
6251s	gench and impact Alliance forgot to
6253s	bring the full 200 if they just had one
6256s	more point that would have gone to
6257s	overtime and then someone had to die and
6259s	to be honest white squall were kind of
6261s	on the back foot the the the crucifier
6263s	made a positioning mistake he got too
6265s	close he got webbed he got painted but
6267s	hero Lodi piloting uh on that side
6269s	managed to keep him alive but then the
6271s	Sentinel started getting head suddenly
6273s	the Bor was getting head it became
6274s	really you know you had to just survive
6277s	to win for white squall and I think if
6279s	that had gone to overtime genin impact
6281s	would have possibly taken the W because
6283s	when it goes to overtime we go into
6284s	reverse time dilation so the game starts
6286s	going faster and faster and faster um
6288s	which I know starle Commander was in the
6290s	middle of explaining uh when I had to
6291s	run into to tell him like hello it's
6293s	actually over because it's 1 uh mystical
6296s	M welcome back to the desk hello how did
6298s	you enjoy that match I thought that was
6300s	probably one of the more exciting
6301s	matches of the tournament not because it
6303s	was flashy um at one point I was kind of
6305s	just sitting cross-legged on the floor
6307s	very Zen it was a very floor just in
6309s	front of this the TV there where I'm
6312s	kind of pointing at we were all just sat
6313s	on the floor watching it and when I
6315s	realized that it was a 1 nil potential I
6317s	was like okay now I do not want the
6318s	flagship to die I wished for the 1 nil
6320s	Meme and it happened I got my wish thank
6322s	you it was
6324s	was really well piloted from both the
6325s	Bor who were spending a majority of the
6327s	match just making sure that the Navy
6329s	gons in turn were slowing down they were
6331s	hitting about 750 m a second 800 m a
6333s	second then they would get double webbed
6336s	they drop down to about 200 um and then
6338s	the other Navy gedon would kind of
6339s	overtake and then also get slow down so
6342s	great back and forth from the balone
6343s	there but I guess the the real winner of
6346s	that match was Hillary and the aneros
6347s	who was able to keep up a couple
6352s	somewhat you know now um flying by the
6355s	seat of the pants FRS being where they
6357s	shouldn't have been but yeah no great
6359s	match great piloting I mean great
6360s	piloting on both sides just to be clear
6362s	um white squall is a very competent team
6365s	uh so I mean quinch and impact allance
6368s	were really putting the pressure on them
6370s	um and to come out of that uh having not
6372s	just fed to a team like white squ is
6373s	actually pretty good morale Victory even
6375s	if it's not a technical Victory um so
6377s	yeah really good piloting all around
6379s	moderator anything you wanted to shout
6380s	out about that yeah I mean sometimes you
6383s	have a composition that really just
6384s	maths out to be 199 points right and
6387s	there's not really like another ship you
6389s	can substitute in for that one point and
6391s	this is really kind of the risk of doing
6392s	that is that if you go to time you know
6395s	that's one point you didn't bring goes
6397s	to the other side right you don't get
6398s	any sort of credit or special you know
6400s	pad on the back for that you just lose
6403s	and um we saw that the B Gorn did a
6406s	really good job of again like you were
6407s	saying just kind of uh saying you know
6409s	you can't get too close to me okay you
6411s	got to stay away but the Sentinels
6413s	are really the kind of the Lynch pin of
6415s	the setup right we saw that you know one
6418s	side had um you know one Sentinel one
6420s	side had two Sentinels and those
6422s	Sentinels what they will do right is 70%
6425s	of your range right your optimal range
6427s	or your Missile Range gets deleted right
6430s	because they're that te 2 effect so
6433s	these rapid heavy Boats were being kept
6435s	away wanting to hit something but they
6437s	only really shoot about like you know 60
6439s	km in change and the B Gorn that's
6442s	webbing you that far away you get you
6443s	know guidance disrupted you really only
6445s	have around 15 kilometer of range you're
6447s	going to be not really doing much and
6449s	that's what happened until these
6451s	crucifiers the Sentinels decided that
6453s	I'm going to get very very very close to
6456s	the enemy Battleship we're going to make
6457s	things exciting for the match and nearly
6460s	inted themselves and the onos did their
6463s	level best to you know keep everything
6465s	alive throwing um Lodi drones you know
6467s	even to try to save things and then you
6469s	know spreading reps across the board
6471s	basically playing hot pot trying to keep
6474s	it alive for his team and you know not
6476s	securing defeat from the jaws of victory
6479s	yeah that essentially was just the
6480s	logistics pilot for white squall uh in
6482s	his own little game where he just has to
6484s	like click the right buttons at the
6485s	right time for 10 minutes and if he does
6486s	his team wins that's that's basically
6488s	what just happened the other 19 people
6489s	were just sort of like party to that uh
6492s	they didn't really have much effect on
6493s	it but yeah fantastic match um I'm very
6495s	happy we got a one-nil win because it's
6497s	just kind of funny uh but let's move on
6499s	and look at our next one it's going to
6500s	be paper numbers versus no need loose f
6503s	so let's take a look at the bands paper
6505s	numbers Banning out crucifier Sentinel
6508s	arbitrator curse they do not like uh
6510s	tracking and guance disruption there
6511s	getting rid of all of that uh no need
6514s	loose face Banning out the EOS the
6516s	armagedon Navy issue the aarti uh and
6519s	the EOS did I say onos first but you can
6522s	see it on the screen so one's an EOS and
6523s	one's an onos um mytic Gite tell me your
6526s	thoughts about these bands I think it's
6527s	interesting that again we're seeing the
6529s	full kind of tracking disruptor Line
6530s	Band out we still have the pilgrim
6532s	available I think feeders we saw similar
6534s	band set to not this because there were
6537s	fewer bands um but people trying to
6539s	remove um you know like curses Etc but
6542s	leaving the pilgrim in because it's
6543s	usually an underutilized and overlooked
6545s	ship um so there's still the pilgrim if
6547s	anyone's trying to you know counter this
6549s	TD spam ban out but I also think it's
6551s	interesting that the eosa and the estar
6553s	are banned the estar we usually see
6556s	performing well in medium gun spam uh
6559s	the EOS is a very strong link ship that
6562s	can be brought with any armor comp
6564s	really because it gives you I think
6565s	stronger Skirmish links and stronger
6567s	armor links which is kind of what you
6569s	want if you're going up against um an
6573s	enemy Fleet when you have an armor comp
6575s	um so yeah I I think that these are two
6576s	interesting bands because it does make
6578s	it harder to bring an an effective armor
6581s	comp when you don't have those two
6584s	command ships to lean back on yeah and
6586s	more any thoughts yeah I mean paper
6588s	numbers really saying hey um we want to
6590s	be able to play at range uh if you're
6592s	going to ban out basically everything um
6594s	but the pilgrim as Misty was saying and
6596s	yeah you can bring the pilgrim but man
6598s	for 30 points that it costs it just does
6600s	not do nearly as well as its you know
6602s	counterpart in the curse and even the
6605s	curse this year is just very expensive
6606s	for what it does and uh no need to lose
6609s	face going and saying hey um drone boats
6611s	are gone medium um you know rail guns
6614s	are getting hit as well and then you've
6615s	got the Armageddon Navy issue that's
6617s	being targeted people love their getting
6619s	Navy issues so far today I think we're
6621s	going to continue to see that you know
6622s	the rest of the day tomorrow and then
6624s	the onos span is kind of the
6626s	prototypical um armor logy we see that
6628s	being used a little bit more than the
6629s	guardian just because of the mid slots
6631s	allow you more in way of like uh sensor
6634s	boosters and capacitor injectors to you
6637s	know self- sustain against ew War so
6640s	pretty well targeted I would say by no D
6642s	Li face and I was just going to add that
6645s	it's interesting again to see the fact
6646s	that the two bands are shared first we
6648s	have the potential duplicate bands and
6650s	then we have the reactions and in that
6652s	reaction phase when they first saw the
6653s	track and disruptor ships kind of banned
6655s	out they went for the estar to
6657s	potentially weaken like the medium gun
6658s	spam and the aneros to potentially
6660s	weaken any like armor core that was
6661s	looking to ball up and just project so
6664s	it it's again an interesting little
6666s	format yeah I'm just checking in on on
6668s	you guys on Twitch to see what you're
6670s	predicting looks like paper numbers are
6671s	the heavy favorites here 1.7 million to
6673s	just 370,000 Channel points uh lots of
6676s	madelle spamming for Road Capel uh
6678s	they're not on yet uh you may spam when
6680s	they are on uh please come up with more
6682s	original spam for the teams that are
6683s	actually playing I will appreciate all
6685s	Emoji based spamming as long as it's
6686s	relevant to the teams that are currently
6688s	playing someone is spamming uh spam this
6690s	pheasant to support of essence um
6693s	they're using a swan I think seven out
6695s	of 10 so so like we can we can rank
6697s	these at some point but yeah come up
6698s	with better spamming um all right let's
6700s	head over to the arena for paper numbers
6703s	versus no need loose face uh yeah let's
6705s	go check that out
6708s	now welcome back to the arena guys I'm
6710s	starle Kim still here Wing that I think
6713s	well we can't count count clearly or
6714s	even read yeah we were told to inject
6716s	reading comprehension one I'm sorry I
6718s	need competency four to get that first
6720s	but on the screen in front of you right
6721s	now we've got paper numbers versus no
6722s	need loose face and we have a very
6724s	interesting match right now we've got a
6725s	kind of a mirror exactly but with armor
6728s	and shield exactly so yeah we've got the
6729s	old medium gun spam but paper numbers
6731s	being weird brought Shield gun spam but
6733s	with navy Hub Navy bricks as well
6735s	because I don't know they feel like that
6737s	it's definitely going to be an
6737s	interesting one because obviously I feel
6739s	like no le face have a bit of an
6741s	advantage here with uh sort of the armor
6743s	comp but Navy prophecies I mean the
6746s	projection on paper numbers is quite
6748s	substantial and look who there's one
6749s	easy target Ora the aura will be I
6752s	reckon the first Target and as we've
6754s	commentated on the two matches ago the
6756s	first 30 seconds are usually what
6758s	makes bang bang bang bang straight away
6760s	or completely getting obliterated down
6763s	into structure of amazing first call
6765s	from paper numbers into infastructure
6767s	completely gone no need new face not
6769s	even time to Blink exactly that and
6771s	that's again mean and guns span just
6773s	throw the damage in their face now with
6774s	the a gone it's going to be an easy
6775s	picking Vigilant next Gone Navy probably
6778s	after that gone after they even take out
6779s	the the mor of Vig make it really easy
6781s	to apply to stuff this is going to
6783s	really snowball they went for a mower
6784s	but looks at it first the probably one
6785s	of the tankiest Cruisers you can engage
6788s	probably not the best CO as well I mean
6789s	obviously um no need Le face have propy
6791s	da issues right so they have got some
6794s	turrets but mostly it's a drone a lot of
6796s	drone damage as
6797s	well so not really too much the M does
6799s	go down but I think it could be too
6801s	little too late exactly they got the mo
6803s	and fortunately the Vigilant and vigil
6805s	have both gone Vigilant and vigil both
6806s	the v's so I think paper numbers still
6808s	have their vigil as well so you've got
6810s	the TP which is so incredibly important
6812s	for their comp um you might be obviously
6814s	the bruck Navy isue not traditionally a
6815s	a a shield ship but it can be it can
6818s	work exactly and the amount the damage
6819s	you can get out of it too it' be a
6821s	brutal amount of damage definitely a lot
6823s	of damage and also very quick as well
6824s	they can actually they can shift quite
6826s	quick quite quick fantasms by the way as
6827s	well not particularly a tournament
6828s	common ship but they do have their play
6830s	sometimes especially coms like this and
6831s	they're also good against for instance H
6833s	Rush comps cuz you can try and pull away
6834s	a bit BH I was say earli on the fantasm
6838s	you don't see it often but they can be
6840s	good they're very hard to kill got the
6841s	ab bonus as well so they very small Sig
6844s	so really hard to hit the obviously Pap
6846s	is doing a fantastic job just getting
6848s	all the ships down obviously Navy
6849s	Harbinger Navy Harbinger sorry is about
6852s	to die in a second here but I think this
6855s	as these matches go the first like 10
6857s	seconds is always your first Target call
6859s	is the one thing that matters if you get
6861s	the first Target call and you can kill
6862s	the Target you win but you can also
6864s	there's also the counter play if they
6865s	know you're about to do it they can try
6866s	and maybe make that call bad it's a very
6869s	it's honestly it's one of those things
6870s	why people say lost on warpin or lost on
6873s	uh on your comp this is lost on the
6875s	first Target call I think so as well and
6877s	also there's a bit of you know chance
6879s	with the warpin as well these two teams
6881s	actually warped in at 50 both teams
6883s	wared in at 50 but because of the
6885s	because of the angle they warped in
6886s	they're actually quite close to each
6887s	other I do think that the prophecy Navy
6889s	issues are a bit lackluster in this I
6891s	think if they I don't know why I don't
6893s	know where that came from I'm not a fan
6895s	they could there's probably a reason
6896s	they're probably smarter than me not
6897s	going to give not going to say they that
6898s	but I don't understand the prophecy Navy
6900s	here personally I think they should have
6901s	gone for more you can look at the look
6903s	at paper numbers they've just double
6905s	down double Navy brck for instance they
6907s	could do that at the same price yeah
6908s	they could have they could have done
6910s	well they'd have to change the they'd
6913s	have to see they'd have to figure out
6915s	what they can put in there and probably
6916s	alter the points to get some more rails
6917s	in there but there's probably a reason
6919s	there usually is I mean it's a it's a
6920s	Prof naue is good it's got a good tank
6922s	it can lock down things has decent
6924s	damage but there's no real heavy
6925s	projection like paper numbers you saw
6927s	the oppressive damage just annihilating
6929s	your Oro right at the start he didn't
6931s	have a chance to even really move yeah I
6933s	mean he he was getting up to speed still
6934s	and was still being shy it didn't matter
6936s	and yeah that's I think previous team
6937s	attempted the same thing and
6938s	unfortunately could not manage it this
6939s	is what happens when they manage it it
6941s	works no a start contrast to the last
6943s	match was a super slow it seems today
6945s	we've got you know we got heavy control
6947s	setups and we have old rush rush Blaster
6950s	Rush stuff not BL Rush
6952s	we got we got hand rush today we've got
6955s	this U medium Rail and projectile spam
6959s	and we've got some lots of control stuff
6960s	right now obviously these matches are
6961s	more are more fun
6964s	things style spaceships exploding two
6966s	chips left for no le le face obviously
6968s	you're going to see paper numbers uh
6970s	going through uh to you in the winners
6973s	by the way they left the tanky T1
6974s	Cruiser till last yeah it's almost like
6977s	let's be honest shooting a m I would not
6979s	be a fan of I agree with shooting T1
6981s	Cruisers in these kind of compe get free
6983s	damage killed quickly the mo is not that
6986s	the mo is the opposite of that no I
6988s	think probably they should have gone for
6989s	something a bit less tanky that's tanky
6991s	I think but even the fantasms would be a
6993s	fun option but they're hard to get they
6995s	hard to hit but the same thing is if
6996s	you're firing medium guns at him it's
6998s	not like you're going to particularly
6999s	miss that no you you I you can match
7000s	transversal as well that will help but
7002s	they are hard to kill killing the MERS
7003s	like you killed it it's not that much
7004s	damage it's a lot more tank for its
7005s	damage you kind of hurt but here we go
7007s	final ship's going down prop dead more
7009s	they going to die good fights local yep
7012s	you know more is about to go down here
7013s	obviously congratulations to paper
7015s	numbers
7016s	to my
7019s	Bo welcome back paper numbers there
7022s	taking that victory over no need loose
7024s	face um and that was a lot of medium
7027s	guns mystical M it was indeed it was
7029s	indeed what a blast from the past
7031s	finally some good comps finally when we
7034s	saw those fantasms I was like ah we're
7036s	back in thei tournament 18 once again uh
7039s	we've had a little bit of a history in
7040s	the last couple of matches we had uh
7041s	flag Balor with a a tempest Fleet issue
7044s	that's straight out of Lance tournament
7045s	16 right there uh so maybe 16 18 next up
7049s	it's 20 then that's where we are this is
7051s	perfect have we ever had a onepoint win
7053s	uh I don't think we've had a onepoint
7054s	win someone someone who has more brain
7056s	cells than me can check that out but I
7057s	don't think we've ever had a one n Win
7058s	made history today maybe we have made
7060s	history uh moderator medium guns spam
7063s	tell me about medium gun spam why uh we
7065s	saw one there being an armor one one
7066s	being a shield one talk to me through it
7069s	sure so medium gun spam has been an
7071s	archetype basically a staple of
7073s	tournaments for really kind of the last
7076s	I want to say like six seven years and
7078s	it's gone through a number of different
7080s	iterations we used to call it kind of
7081s	Octodad because what you would do is you
7084s	would bring eight battle Cruisers right
7087s	and then a couple logi frigs and you
7088s	would just push down anything because
7091s	eight battle Cruisers turns out it does
7092s	more damage than pretty much anything
7093s	else in the game and things have Chang
7096s	you know over time you're not allowed to
7098s	bring you know that many of the same
7099s	class of hole so uh now we see that you
7103s	know we bring Cruisers instead uh we
7105s	bring some things like the fantasms
7107s	right instead of you know like throwing
7109s	a bunch of phox as if it was going to be
7111s	a shield comp and then it's turned into
7114s	this kind of evolution where a shield
7116s	kind of setup versus an armor setup The
7117s	Shield setup it can do things like put
7120s	tracking enhancers it can put you know
7122s	more damage mods in the low slots and
7124s	maybe out trade right you really trying
7126s	to see I do a lot of damage but you do a
7129s	lot of damage but if I do damage faster
7130s	than you I win and that's pretty much
7133s	what paper numbers did here yeah I find
7135s	it interesting as well that one side
7136s	went for Logistics friets and one side
7138s	went for a tech1 logistics Cruiser so it
7140s	doesn't have those Tech Two resists as
7142s	soon as uh we saw what was on grid I
7144s	looked at him was like this is going to
7145s	be a case of if they shoot those frigs
7147s	first then they win if not they lose and
7149s	that's pretty much exactly what happened
7150s	that augur went down really fast uh you
7153s	also want to talk a little bit about the
7155s	was it the shield Navy har Shield Navy
7157s	Harbinger yes tell me about the shield
7159s	Navy Harbinger mystical M so one of the
7161s	conversations we were having um is when
7163s	we're watching the match we're kind of
7165s	trying to figure out okay why are they
7166s	bringing a Navy Harbinger instead of I
7169s	guess your more traditional phox right
7170s	um foox is already a shield ship it has
7173s	its bonuses it has um optimal range
7176s	bonuses I believe on the rail gun so it
7179s	would seem like a good ship to fit into
7181s	this comp but the Navy Harbinger has
7183s	five mids it has six lows has its beams
7187s	um it does an absolute ton of damage and
7190s	it's actually fairly quick which me that
7192s	it's actually kind of Ideal to fit into
7194s	this medium gun spam because it allows
7196s	you to close range to put your
7197s	multifrequency damage in when you're not
7199s	getting shot if you do start getting
7201s	shot you can start to burn away
7203s	effectively trying to speed tank or
7205s	range tank the enemy team and trying to
7207s	preserve your life a little bit longer
7209s	so the mobility plays a huge part in
7210s	these types of setups especially when
7212s	there's a mirror um we saw in fact um
7214s	lost touch also burning away at one
7216s	point when he was in half armor in the
7218s	Navy BRX and it meant that they had to
7219s	switch Target right so it's very
7222s	important play this positionally but
7224s	just the sheer amount of damage and
7225s	range you can get out of a Navy haringer
7227s	probably means it's more worthwhile to
7228s	take than a ferox which is more likely
7230s	to die um than the Navy Harbinger would
7234s	so uh mod it feels like medium gun spam
7237s	has a lot of potential to be a pretty um
7239s	top tier comp this particular tournament
7241s	in in this current Ro Set uh how do
7243s	teams kind of counter this like it feels
7245s	like it's so impressive with the DPS it
7247s	has range speed it's it's you know we've
7249s	seen them execute quite well so far so
7253s	yeah something that we've seen
7254s	traditionally the way you can shut these
7255s	down is you bring tracking disruption
7258s	right if you have a bunch of ships that
7260s	really want to project and at range but
7263s	you have things like curses in the past
7266s	historically that can really take you
7268s	know the incoming pressure you put full
7269s	tank on those lows you're not going to
7271s	put any you know ECM strength mods on
7273s	those and you just put a bunch of
7274s	tracking disruption you get like six or
7276s	seven um you know tracking disruption uh
7280s	you know modules that really are spread
7282s	across the board and they all do around
7285s	70% mitigation okay your medium rail gun
7288s	and beam damage that wants to be at 60
7290s	km they have to be within hard tackle
7293s	range now to do anything and if you can
7295s	you know force that to run into like a
7298s	Vindicator or other heavy battleships
7300s	right you're in a world of hurt so it's
7303s	a very high skill um con comp as a whole
7307s	it can be used you know by basically
7309s	people who are starting the game and it
7311s	just got used by truth light so it's got
7313s	a very deep uh pool a lot of usability
7316s	utility but it has weaknesses too it's
7318s	not like the I win button automatically
7321s	yeah and Mr Gite do you think um the no
7325s	lead loose face team could have done
7326s	anything different in this particular
7327s	match it would have led them to to
7329s	Victory or do you think it was just out
7331s	execution I think it's It's tricky to
7334s	say um without being able to look at the
7335s	fits being able to understand exactly
7337s	what they were going for when they came
7338s	up with the comp and then how their
7340s	practices have also gone um over the
7343s	course of like the the couple months
7344s	leading up to the alliance tournament um
7346s	my initial reaction will probably be
7348s	that they should have better range than
7352s	the shield setup because they have their
7353s	mids that they can put towards tracking
7355s	computers um s boosters in case they
7357s	were ever worried about damps for
7358s	example so they'd be able to pull back
7361s	and force the shield comp to fly into
7363s	them which doesn't quite have the same
7365s	effect since it's gun so you know
7367s	there's instant damage with missiles for
7369s	those of you that don't know missiles
7370s	have flight time which means that that
7372s	if you burn away from a ship that is
7374s	shooting missiles at you the missiles
7376s	will often burn out even if you're
7377s	within range just because of the way
7379s	that the the flight time works that
7381s	doesn't happen with guns but it would
7383s	still allow you to draw the Shield team
7384s	out um some ships are going to be faster
7386s	than others um it would allow you to
7390s	potentially like kind of burn around and
7391s	turn back around like we see with some
7392s	teams that burn towards mjd beacons and
7394s	it may have allowed them to isolate some
7396s	fights that would have allowed them to
7397s	pull ahead a little bit with the damage
7399s	race um but outside of that I mean
7402s	yeah that's yeah just just win it's just
7407s	that easy guys just win instead of
7409s	losing have you considered winning yeah
7411s	or stal mating and then winning by uh by
7414s	one point Tech yeah I'm actually looking
7416s	forward to seeing some um some reverse
7418s	tie-dye matches uh we had one last year
7421s	in allance tournament 19 uh it was the
7422s	first time in quite some time we saw a
7424s	reverse tie-dye match if I do recall uh
7427s	and it was very exciting to watch It's
7428s	Always A bit chaotic uh for those of you
7430s	who don't know uh we talked about it
7431s	briefly but if it goes into reverse
7433s	tie-dye um everything just happens
7435s	really quickly and that means like your
7436s	modules cycle really fast your overheat
7439s	uh increases super quickly and it gets
7441s	faster and faster and faster and faster
7442s	as the match goes on uh until modules
7445s	that used to cycle like this are just
7446s	going like and you like accidentally
7448s	overheat for a moment and bang you have
7450s	just burned out all your guns it is
7452s	chaos incarnate but it's very fun to
7454s	watch it's good stuff I'm I don't think
7457s	I've ever been involved in a reverse
7458s	tie-dye match I I've been in one I flew
7460s	a tinker tangu LOD
7462s	in Alliance tournament 14 I think it was
7465s	a bomber Tinker as well um so it was uh
7470s	against another Tinker bomber setup
7472s	which is why it went to stalemate cuz we
7474s	just sat and shot Torpedoes at each
7475s	other for 10 minutes and then shot them
7478s	faster for another five that's one of
7479s	those matches where what we need is like
7481s	a heart rate meter on each side's lodgy
7482s	to see like you know you start out and
7484s	by the end you you've done a marathon
7486s	you've just won like the uh you know
7488s	Olympics cuz your heart is just given
7489s	out at that point exactly uh all right
7491s	so um we have an A match coming up and
7494s	of course uh we have lots of spamming of
7496s	the madmazel to support ropel but let's
7498s	take a look at some of the other things
7499s	that you have been spamming and let's
7500s	have a look at the rating so madmazel
7502s	for RO Capel uh currently 200 which is
7505s	which is pretty good uh cucumbers for
7507s	paper number is ranked pretty high 300
7509s	uh I'm I'm questioning that one
7511s	cucumbers for paper numbers I mean
7512s	unless you're saying it in a really
7514s	weird
7515s	way that one Rhymes but all the numbers
7517s	for paper numbers uh that one's worse
7520s	that one's worse that one's worse
7523s	cucumber now it's too wordy too but I
7525s	like pheasants for of essence that's my
7526s	favorite I like that I I like the fact
7528s	that we haven't included the Emojis
7530s	they're using this because again it's
7532s	not pheasants there are no pheasants on
7534s	Twitch I believe and they are using
7536s	doves or swans or something that's close
7537s	enough it's a bird yeah I guess but yeah
7542s	I mean mambaz roella is a classic um I
7545s	will be spamming my mambaz I always spam
7546s	my Melle for RO Capel Ro Capel very
7549s	experienced tournament team uh in
7550s	general we usually think of them as one
7552s	of the uh sort of a Gatekeepers to the
7554s	upper bracket uh they've played in tons
7557s	of matches over the years going back a
7558s	long long long time uh and they usually
7560s	do pretty all right and if you can get
7562s	through a team like Ro Capel you're
7564s	probably like above average I say
7566s	they're definitely a solid solid team uh
7568s	they have last couple of matches that
7569s	they have played in Lions tournament
7570s	Lions tour 19 they lost to Exodus uh and
7573s	also hidden Leaf ninja Village whatever
7576s	the hell are called again um those are
7578s	two pretty tough teams so they didn't do
7580s	so well last time but they have overall
7582s	they are 21 wins to 22 losses so um
7587s	basically average perfectly balanced so
7588s	uh technically according to this they
7590s	they will lose and then it will be
7591s	balanced but we will find out all right
7593s	let's take a look at the the bands
7595s	though for this match of essence versus
7597s	Ro Capel so of essence Banning out the
7599s	Armageddon simitar the sleer and the
7601s	cycle and Fleet issue meanwhile Ro Capel
7604s	Banning out the nigh talk the Loki the
7605s	orthus and the zarz moderator your
7608s	thoughts please yeah so the simitar is
7611s	something we actually haven't really
7612s	seen a lot of bans um today on and when
7615s	you have the Scimitar out you have the
7616s	sleer out and the Cyclone Fleet issue
7618s	out you're really hitting at like every
7620s	single heavy missile kite chip or like
7623s	um an artillery uh kite has been popular
7626s	but also with the orthis and the Loki
7628s	out and the Nighthawk out it's like man
7630s	Shield Rush has no ships left at this
7633s	point and it makes me think that we're
7635s	not going to see a shield Rush we're not
7636s	going to see a shield kite so really the
7638s	relevant bands we've got left are the
7640s	get and navy issue and the zorad and the
7643s	zorad is a very interesting ship
7646s	compared to its counterpart the guardian
7648s	and the onos where it does a lot of
7652s	ramping right onto a ship as opposed to
7655s	kind of a split rep and we saw that to
7657s	great effect actually in the very first
7658s	match where um fraternity mystical
7661s	might's team actually did not win
7664s	because zarzad uh was very effectively
7668s	being able to deal with the incoming
7670s	rapid heavy damage so
7672s	Armageddon
7673s	Navy has been something we've seen
7676s	banned most of today we're going to keep
7678s	seeing it banned but zarm is a little
7679s	bit out there Mr gmate your thoughts on
7682s	this as well yeah get that Z out of here
7686s	yeah don't don't like it just don't like
7687s	it um I I think it's interesting that
7690s	we've got a simitar and Zan ban um I
7693s	think the SL band's kind of interesting
7695s	the krael on TQ I think gets used very
7699s	very rarely by like small gangers people
7701s	that cut around quite a bit and want to
7704s	spend that extra money on something
7705s	that's shiny not necessarily because
7707s	it's way better than a s or a hurricane
7709s	Fleet issue but because it's shiny but
7712s	in a tournament setting I think you
7714s	could probably replace the S with K you
7716s	could probably place it with hurricane
7717s	Fleet issues and still kind of get the
7719s	same fight um was it flight killer yeah
7722s	fight killer would be that kind of
7723s	composition but then you see like the
7725s	band of like the orth and you're like
7726s	man that no Loki it's like I don't think
7728s	you've ever needed the Loki and the
7730s	orthus for a flly kular setup I think I
7731s	think you you you'd probably be leaning
7733s	more towards um hyenas and things like
7735s	that in your lower end just to have the
7737s	webs and the target painters and then
7739s	you've also got other ships that you
7741s	could probably replace to orthus with
7742s	it's not going to be the same because
7744s	light missiles were nerfed on things
7745s	like the Navy Osprey but um you know
7749s	Jack doors are still in for example if
7751s	you wanted some light missiles in the
7752s	lower end um that are also fairly cheap
7755s	you've also got squalls which you can
7757s	also kite around with with heavy
7758s	missiles if you wanted to or light
7759s	missiles wouldn't recommend it but heavy
7762s	missiles yeah so there's there's still
7764s	options to bring a like
7766s	discount fly killer if you wanted to um
7770s	I think the slep bands these days are
7772s	not as efficient yeah I like the the
7774s	simitar band on the offence side uh Ro
7777s	Capel um haven't necessarily been the
7779s	most in Innovative in terms of like the
7781s	comp that they tend to bring they tend
7782s	to stick with the the known good ones
7785s	and just try and do them really well and
7786s	the simitar plays a big part in a lot of
7788s	these sort of like kiting execution
7790s	comps especially from tour past and I
7792s	would expect like that's the type of uh
7794s	comp that teams like Ro Capel would love
7795s	to fly so I think that's a good targeted
7797s	ban of of of essence from of essence uh
7801s	you guys with your silly names um but
7804s	yeah and then slep classic I think it's
7806s	probably the most used tournament ship
7807s	basically ever anyway um it's was a long
7810s	long long time classic um but yeah we
7812s	can head over to the arena uh Ro Capel
7814s	are Fielding their Flagship in this
7815s	match by the way so this should be an
7817s	interesting one hopefully I mean I do
7819s	kind of want to see flagships die
7820s	because it's fun but also so I am
7822s	spamming my Melle for rock Capel so
7823s	hopefully it doesn't die this time um
7826s	let's head over to the arena for this
7829s	match good day mates and Overlord just
7832s	stole my thunder because that's right
7833s	roel brought their flag again Navy in a
7836s	drone control comp what has of essence
7838s	brought for us man of essence has
7840s	brought a more armor projection setup
7843s	with big DPS coming from the Paladin
7845s	Redeemer and a badden they've got a
7847s	little bit of control of their own with
7848s	that crucifier and mollus to sort of
7850s	damp things out disrupt the rapid
7852s	Heavies on the Armageddon but I'm really
7854s	worried about these arbitrators from R
7856s	Capel this is going to make the uh
7859s	application from those big laser boats
7861s	kind of sweat and it might let Rach
7862s	Capel utilize their large control bar in
7865s	order to grind down this match yeah it's
7867s	going to be one of those painful things
7868s	like hey I've brought these three great
7870s	damage projection ships and I can't use
7871s	them yep yep uh Scorch has long range
7876s	unless uh the arbitrators are tracking
7878s	disrupting you so it'll be a little bit
7880s	of a slow start and that really does
7883s	favor the control comp of roel I'm also
7885s	curious what kind of drones they're
7886s	going to drop first from this no mostly
7888s	drone comp with a very shiny rapid heavy
7890s	Armageddon Navy flag by the way yep yep
7893s	and looks like we've got those DPS drone
7895s	or so heavy drones coming in uh no
7898s	sentries here so those will be streaming
7901s	across the arena to the lucky first
7904s	recipient of the damage uh which we will
7907s	see in other arbitrator being shot first
7909s	yet that makes perfect sense mate get
7911s	rid of that before gimps us please yep
7913s	yep we know exactly what our problem is
7915s	here and that is that uh we need to be
7917s	able to shoot uh although looking at the
7920s	looking at the effects there's no
7922s	tracking disruptors going out here on
7924s	the ls Steam and as I say that there go
7927s	so uh might be a little bit of a missile
7929s	focused thing or it might be that they
7931s	were damped off um not damped at the
7934s	moment it looks like it's just
7936s	potentially one or they've stacked a lot
7937s	onto the pallet just to bring it down
7939s	enough yeah those Marauders have quite
7941s	good range on them but uh realizing that
7944s	they're not that tracking disrupted
7946s	perhaps they're switching over to the
7947s	Stratos meanwhile the damage from Rook
7949s	pel going onto the isimu of Zer y Str is
7952s	now pulling back into his team so he's
7953s	now pulling back aimu is still being
7955s	pressured but it looks like he's at the
7957s	moment holding some comfortably by the
7958s	way the Lodie on that team is an
7960s	Inquisitor and a deacon so there's also
7962s	a potential really big weak spot on The
7964s	Inquisitor if they can potentially get
7966s	the damage down yep yeah and those logi
7968s	frigs that's rough cuz they have to get
7969s	in range of their target they have to
7971s	stay close to their target uh and the
7973s	great thing about drone ships is if you
7975s	don't have to use your high slots for
7977s	weapons you can use your high slots for
7978s	neutralizers and also the ever
7980s	everpresent ever scary random wrecking
7983s	shot yep yep so we should be we should
7985s	be seeing uh some risk to those logi
7988s	frigs uh which are happily trying to
7990s	keep up their shimu he's holding quite
7992s	well meanwhile and speaking of logi
7994s	frigs uh Rema in the Thalia is the
7997s	primary for essent so Essence trying to
7999s	take out the sustain from the control
8002s	they going have a bit more trouble with
8003s	but I believe it's just a bunch of
8004s	drones on him at the moment yeah bunch
8006s	of Warriors at the moment being on on
8008s	the Val he's not doing all too well he's
8010s	going to get hope to get saved by this
8011s	Deacon or it's going to start going
8012s	poorly meanwhile Chad flame is now being
8014s	primary yep and uh Chad flame taken a
8017s	big chunk of damage those heavy drones
8019s	from those bonus notes uh boats can deal
8022s	uh quite a bit of pain and while
8025s	sometimes they're tracking struggles it
8026s	doesn't struggle against a paladin
8027s	especially if Paladin is not trying best
8029s	not to move particularly fast yeah domic
8032s	being pressured as well so we got a th
8033s	being pressured and the Deacon I believe
8034s	are they in the middle of the fight no
8036s	they're away so Dom's actually on his
8038s	own a bit being attacked but no now he's
8040s	next to little we're good yep yeah and
8043s	honestly this is just the longer this
8045s	goes the better that the NES from rot
8048s	Capel start to be you know nuding out
8050s	that Paladin it needs capacitor in order
8052s	to deal damage it needs capacitor in
8054s	order to use its uh effects and this
8057s	Navy Armageddon you hoping to stay alive
8059s	Flagship uh hoping to be able to bring
8061s	that damage to Bear against the enemy
8063s	team but this Dominic is in deep trouble
8066s	yeah he's not going anywhere there's an
8067s	Abid well within range at this point now
8069s	it's going to be race to kill the dummy
8070s	and I think they're going to get him
8071s	like doesn't matter how much you track
8072s	and Sh us he's right there he's the size
8074s	of a moon we can kill him yep yep so uh
8079s	Dominic's into arm into structure
8081s	galente holds quite a lot of hole but uh
8084s	it's there's no Reps for that on field
8087s	so it'll be tough to see if this Dominic
8090s	can survive and if it goes goes down
8092s	trading for nothing that's going to be a
8093s	tough spot exactly that exactly that
8095s	he's he's they're doing a great job
8096s	trying to keep him alive you see the
8097s	Reps coming constantly in but that's
8099s	that's not looking good and what are
8101s	they doing in return well they're
8102s	finally going for The Inquisitor but it
8104s	looks like that's not particularly going
8105s	well which happens and they're kind of
8108s	looks they're between targets at the
8109s	moment yeah that Inquisitor it's a
8112s	potentially squishy Target te one
8114s	resists not as good as the uh its Tech 2
8117s	Deacon buddy oh yeah yeah we're all
8120s	looking at that Dominic that last tiny
8122s	sliver of
8123s	structure Inquisitor to that can also
8126s	there Inquisitor goes down which means
8127s	the Deacon is now a potential Target as
8129s	well The Dominics is still creeping down
8132s	they are trying there he goes never mind
8134s	pop yeah although that Deacon absolutely
8137s	the primary and if R Capel can get down
8139s	the Deacon then they'll have the logy
8142s	advantage against of essence and that
8143s	will be a that'll be a win condition for
8145s	them that means rapel will have sustain
8147s	of Essence no sustain those battleships
8150s	have quite a lot of buffer but it's just
8152s	buffer you can grind through it and that
8154s	Deacon is just taking chunks and chunks
8156s	and chunks of damage Theos and Shima by
8157s	the way they're tackling each other
8158s	mutually right now you can tell it looks
8159s	like the Stratos is the one getting the
8161s	bad end of that deal yep so Deacon down
8164s	Stratos down uh Road Capel definitely
8167s	behind but not out of it quite yet
8170s	indeed indeed but it's like not looking
8171s	too good but here's the thing flagships
8173s	can turn a match solely on their own
8175s	sometimes we saw a bunch of years back a
8177s	single scope Navy just basically soed a
8179s	team at one point so if they can get a
8180s	position Maybe the Navy gon can carry
8183s	but with the opposing team still
8184s	maintaining all of their damage and
8186s	basically all of their control it's
8189s	looks like we might potentially be
8190s	losing a flagship at the moment yeah K
8193s	Paso over there definitely sweating uh
8195s	as proxy in the prophecy prophecy also
8198s	quite heavily tank boat uh but that
8201s	damage from the three projection
8203s	battleships still available still all
8206s	applying and speaking of flagships
8208s	carrying uh comp Paso has a little bit
8209s	of a problem and that problem is the
8212s	crucifier of night merant the crucifier
8215s	did show up with missile guidance
8216s	disruptors and this rapid heavy ship is
8219s	going to be suffering in its ability to
8220s	apply to anything uh meanwhile also
8222s	suffering a little bit in the capacitor
8224s	Department notice that the uh the
8225s	Redeemer now is starting to creep down
8228s	they now they've got rid of the logy
8229s	they can potentially try and eat through
8230s	this guy theyve got a lot of drones they
8232s	got a lot of potential here and they
8233s	could maybe start slow to eating and
8235s	looks like it's starting to go their way
8237s	that prophecy is being what prophecy do
8240s	tank their break
8242s	both in terms of flying capability and
8243s	in terms of tank yep not looking good
8246s	this is exactly what roel needs to turn
8248s	this back is get that Redeemer down
8251s	start working on the other ships if they
8253s	can hold the prophecy and get the
8254s	Redeemer down in time they'll be that'll
8256s	be a big bunch of damage off of the of
8259s	essence team and they'll be able to
8261s	start continuing to use their logi still
8264s	alive even though uh Rema and mealia is
8267s	being pressured yeah and I going to say
8269s	next as well is that this is where these
8271s	teach FRS can do really well cuz they
8272s	don't have to keep you alive forever
8274s	just long enough and they're doing very
8276s	well here keeping this prophecy alive
8277s	for long enough that's actually starting
8278s	to threaten this redeema yeah and Rema
8282s	St both got both getting consistently
8284s	nuded by the of essence team good call
8286s	from the of essence team you don't need
8287s	to kill the logi frigs if they don't
8289s	have any capacitor they can't rep if
8290s	they have no cap but they're injecting
8293s	through it they're doing their best and
8295s	that Magus of Quinn rhods just quick
8297s	swap get the links down yeah pop gone
8300s	profy still surviving as well it's
8301s	getting real close we have 3 minutes
8303s	left in this match and it's looking very
8306s	very dicey honestly for both teams yeah
8308s	R capel's gone for the links they've
8310s	popped the Magus they've popped the Pont
8312s	effects they're really trying to push
8314s	the advantage that they have in sustain
8316s	in order to start getting one of those
8319s	big targets down and having said that
8321s	they're switching to the isimu just
8322s	trying to get as many points as they can
8324s	in the remaining two minutes especially
8326s	with proxy dipping deep into hole
8329s	killing off damage as much as they can
8330s	as well the shimi kind of damage and NES
8332s	they can just delete here and it's
8333s	definitely like seems like this change
8334s	in strategy is definitely working is
8336s	they starting to kill a lot of ships
8338s	prophecy look at that there like 5%
8340s	structure oh and he's look at he's
8342s	starting to get red up again him that's
8343s	8% structure my apologies and he's he's
8345s	just holding it and I think his arm is
8346s	going up it's going up oh no there there
8349s	goes the isimu that is a huge bunch of
8351s	pressure off of the stalia and Deacon
8353s	that isimu has NES they cycle very
8356s	quickly it's very effective at
8358s	disrupting the repping ability so look
8360s	at the scores as well look how close the
8362s	scores with this thing there he goes
8364s	there we go okay all right crisis
8366s	averted for of essence at least but they
8369s	still have two minutes you think they
8370s	can take down a flag Navy get in two
8372s	minutes or you think they're not going
8373s	to try I I think they're I think they're
8375s	not going to try I think they need to
8377s	get out of this with their lives if that
8379s	Redeemer goes down if that Redeemer goes
8381s	down or if that Paladin goes down it
8383s	looks like all the tackles on the
8384s	Paladin right now then roel still have a
8388s	chance to pull this out roel 55 to 85
8390s	those battleships 48 any of these
8393s	battleships would do it for R Capel I
8395s	just noticed where the demer is by the
8396s	way the demer decided you just leave the
8398s	vicinity and he now on the other side of
8400s	the Arena so that demon that's why he's
8401s	still alive he decided to leave but the
8402s	Paladin now is the one who's taking the
8404s	absolute spanking from a flag Navy
8406s	geddon yeah and if that's got purple
8408s	launchers that can plug out a massive
8410s	amount of damage and that's starting to
8412s	look not good they yeah got one minut
8415s	one minute has to survive one minute of
8418s	this there is a flag that is beating you
8420s	to death and one minute to try and do it
8422s	but I think Chad Flame's about to go
8424s	down madmazel has done it rope Propel up
8428s	ahead and points pulling this one out by
8431s	the skin of their teeth and this is the
8433s	most important thing in the alliance
8434s	tournament it is not over till it's over
8437s	and this
8439s	match that is that is absolutely brutal
8442s	yeah the demon the other side of the
8443s	Arena there's nothing they can really do
8444s	now they've got not enough damage
8445s	they're going to go for the abidon but I
8446s	think with the NES on him he's probably
8448s	going to be particularly useless so yeah
8450s	rote with with the last with literally a
8452s	minute on the time goes from being in a
8453s	losing position to a winning position
8456s	yep and uh very well flown from Ro Capel
8459s	uh of essence pretty good match too of
8462s	essence they're a newer team they've
8464s	made it through the feeders into the
8466s	alliance tournament these days the
8467s	feeders are a play in uh play in
8470s	qualifier so much more competitive great
8472s	job to them great showing here exactly
8474s	very good showing for them here yep R
8476s	Capel we've seen them a lot we'll see
8478s	them more in the Winner's bracket uh
8480s	very very well done and comp Paso
8482s	surviving in the flagship their
8484s	investment is safe they can bring it
8486s	back another day well with that let's
8489s	take go to a break and come back to the
8490s	studio
8492s	after very touching goal for some time
8495s	in that match um but they managed to
8497s	hold on delete some ships enough ships
8500s	to win and then did in fact win uh
8503s	mystical might as a pilot in the
8505s	alliance tournament when the match
8508s	begins what should you do well according
8511s	to my manual right here it says that I
8512s	should sit still in my redeemer for 28
8515s	seconds and do absolutely nothing in the
8517s	match um which was a very effective play
8520s	for rot um yeah I I don't know um we
8523s	usually look to see how long it takes
8525s	for teams to actually get off the
8526s	starting line when the match begins I
8528s	think especially newer pilots in the
8530s	tournament have a tendency to double
8531s	click just before ships are unlocked and
8534s	you can move around and it won't send
8536s	that command through so you'll just end
8538s	up sitting still you'll be like Oh I'm
8539s	going to be heading in the in the right
8541s	Direction I'm going to be burning
8541s	towards the enemy team and then you
8543s	realize 30 seconds in okay I haven't
8546s	moved at all I've been running my prop
8548s	mod probably so just turning capacitor
8551s	into nothing yeah it's it is something
8554s	that newer Pilots do need to get used to
8556s	I think that people that have experience
8557s	in the tournament usually um know when
8560s	they can actually start moving they
8561s	usually spam the command as well just as
8563s	the timer ticks over um I think that of
8566s	essence actually had a really good
8567s	chance at winning um I was saying that
8569s	the Redeemer the ab and the Paladin were
8572s	was a decent comp to bring um we saw
8575s	that it was working fairly well towards
8576s	the beginning but I think that the
8579s	Paladin just having to suffer through
8580s	the Navy geddon noes for what was the
8582s	entirety of the match meant that when
8584s	they did switch the Paladin towards the
8586s	end it had no capacitor and it seems
8588s	like they weren't able to trade cap
8590s	Chargers over from the abadin to keep
8592s	that Paladin alive for a little bit
8594s	longer so yeah now we we had a little
8596s	bit of a meme on the uh Redeemer pilot
8598s	for uh forgetting to move for the first
8600s	28 seconds however I did want to call
8602s	out his Chad gamer move uh of being shot
8605s	at realizing he was being shot at uh
8607s	sitting still on the beacon in the
8609s	middle allowing himself to be shot out
8611s	until it was time to vacate the premises
8613s	and then he just MGD away uh into safety
8615s	and survived uh
8617s	so overload approved well done uh black
8620s	bar pirate anything else from you in
8621s	this one yeah I think um I feel like of
8624s	essence had that because we saw Dominics
8625s	and we're like
8627s	uh and then uh The Dominics did
8630s	something that uh every every body knows
8631s	potatoes are really good at and uh
8633s	skillfully slipped away from the triple
8635s	battleships and we were kind of watching
8636s	it and you know I hate to say this and
8638s	it's it's obviously I'm not sitting in
8640s	the pilot seats of any of our the
8641s	battleships on the other team but it
8643s	felt like they might have right click
8644s	approached The Dominics in a bunch of
8646s	slow battleships and so when The
8647s	Dominics turned space left which is
8649s	different than regular left because it's
8650s	whichever direction I feel like it is at
8652s	the time the battleships did the uh the
8654s	classic like oh we're following the path
8656s	of you as opposed to cutting it off so
8658s	it took them I would say probably almost
8659s	a minute longer than should have to
8662s	tackle a
8663s	Dominic's King Dominic a kiting Dominic
8666s	was tackled by the number one tackled by
8669s	the other number one kiing Battleship of
8670s	the abadin um because I and I feel like
8673s	the Redeemer or the Paladin could have
8676s	also done that or any of the ships could
8677s	have done that and if they had gotten it
8678s	down just a little bit faster um they
8681s	could have won but you know I will say
8682s	uh the rot Capel Flagship pilot you know
8684s	recognized the fact that his ship has
8686s	long range and never was close enough to
8688s	get crushed like I think they they
8690s	looked that as oh that's a lot of damage
8692s	let's not get killed by that and then
8694s	you know they kind of barely squeaked it
8696s	out but they did and I think that it was
8697s	uh I think it was of essence's fight to
8699s	lose and I think that they had a little
8701s	bit of piloting errors that caused that
8702s	to happen yeah and yeah like you say it
8705s	was probably their fight to lose and I
8707s	think a couple of those little errors
8708s	they kind of all compounded uh and I
8711s	mean we we saw how close it actually
8712s	still was at the end like that match was
8714s	not really over until it was um there
8716s	was certainly a number of opportunities
8718s	uh where they could have taken the W
8719s	there I think over but anyway solid win
8722s	for RO Capel they they're going to
8723s	advance along the winners bracket of
8724s	Ence drop down into the losers bracket
8726s	this is a double elimination tournament
8728s	as his tradition so uh you can lose once
8731s	and everything is okay it just means
8733s	more skins uh if you win some more um
8735s	but it can be a grind dropping into that
8737s	lower bracket of course we have a lot
8739s	more matches to do uh so congratulations
8741s	I'm pretty sure this was all down to the
8743s	um the spamming of the Melle without
8745s	that who who knows what would have
8747s	happened all right let's look at our
8748s	next match now um it is going to be the
8752s	tuskers versus unspoken Alliance uh this
8755s	should be an interesting one the tuskers
8757s	co uh they won before they won allance
8759s	at 14 that was a while ago but they
8760s	still won and they've always been quite
8762s	good uh I would say definitely like a
8764s	top four team uh last year they were in
8766s	the grand finals and uh lost to
8769s	fraternity so certainly um a different
8772s	team from the last 14 teams not very
8774s	many members are the same but they still
8775s	showed that they as an organization are
8777s	very good um this I'm looking for the
8780s	bands I don't think I have the bands for
8781s	this one yet so I'll just keep talking
8783s	until someone tells me the bands are
8784s	available uh blackb Pirates what do you
8786s	think of this upcoming matchup so this
8788s	is it's kind of a similar situation with
8789s	like truth honor light like we expect
8791s	tuskers to win this because tuskers has
8794s	not not been in the top four for years
8798s	um they're an incredibly good team they
8799s	have some of the wildest crazy Offa
8802s	Theory crafting of anybody uh you know
8804s	mirie has always played its own game
8807s	tuskers plays their own game um and that
8809s	makes them very very difficult for teams
8812s	that are not maybe on that same level of
8814s	just kind of like theorycraft Madness to
8816s	predict and fight against that being
8819s	said there is always the chance uh we
8821s	were talking about it last night that
8823s	sometimes tuskers will kind of outm meta
8825s	themselves and you know we don't know
8827s	what they're going to bring it this is
8828s	the first match tuskers is played this
8830s	tournament because they didn't have to
8832s	play through the feeders uh I would
8833s	expect some really weird stuff and I
8836s	guess you know we we'll have to see but
8838s	I do see that you have the bands up
8840s	stealing your spot H we should talk
8842s	about the bands yes great Segway Bart
8844s	excellent let's talk about the bands uh
8846s	so the tuskers co are Bing out the curse
8848s	crucifier Armageddon and Armageddon Navy
8850s	issue unspoken Alliance Banning out the
8852s	orthis hyena brick Navy issue and fic
8855s	Navy issue question mark uh hyena good
8858s	ban I think against the tuskers mystical
8860s	M what do you think about these bands I
8862s	think the bands are kind of interesting
8864s	uh the I don't think the ferox Navy
8865s	issue ban is quite so much a question
8867s	mark we've seen it be fairly strong in
8869s	some of the media real gun spam concept
8871s	we've seen um it it does fairly well it
8874s	puts out a ton of damage which is why
8876s	it's a very popular TQ ship as well at
8878s	the moment um the Navy BRX also
8880s	basically fulfills the same role you can
8883s	probably Shield fit the Navy bruix more
8885s	than you can armor fit the ferox Navy
8886s	issue um so by removing those two ships
8889s	it seems like a fairly decent way to
8891s	counter the two initial bands that they
8892s	are seeing which is the curse and the
8894s	crucifier again both tracking disrupting
8896s	ships which means that they're able to
8899s	respond more effectively to what what
8900s	the opponent might be trying to aim for
8902s	and try and curtail that a little bit um
8906s	I think the hyena and orthus bands are
8907s	also fairly interesting CU yeah it it
8909s	plays more into Theus the tuska's play
8911s	style which is making sure that you
8913s	can't get on top of them cutting around
8915s	bursting to something with light
8916s	missiles and then kind of waiting out
8918s	that reload Time by just flying around
8919s	the edge of the Arena yeah and
8921s	interestingly both teams choosing to
8923s	Feld their flagships both bringing
8925s	Flagship borns um it makes me feel like
8928s	we're back in L in 16 all over again
8929s	Flagship Balor gns which are back and
8932s	you can uh pimp them pretty heavily
8934s	especially with some webs and of course
8936s	uh the tuskers are no no they're not
8939s	afraid to pimp they're going to be uh
8940s	pretty expensive uh they're going to
8942s	have probably at least a Tobias web
8944s	maybe a gokan's web those will web out
8946s	to like 60 kilm with uh with links Heats
8949s	etc etc uh but they are extremely
8951s	expensive I think Toby webs are normally
8952s	like 80 billion or something like that
8954s	if you can even find someone who will
8955s	sell you one yeah I I think your best
8958s	bet if you really want to upgrade your B
8960s	is to go up against a team that has a
8962s	flagship bone and then kill it yeah and
8964s	then higher drop rates than trying to
8966s	find the officers on on DQ does the uh
8968s	drop rate event also work with the
8971s	at that's a question that's a good 90%
8974s	drop rate in the at you should be
8976s	killing the flagship yes that is a very
8979s	good point someone can clarify that that
8980s	is excellent yes it does it does GB
8983s	zealous has spoken to me from somewhere
8985s	else in the building and told me that
8986s	yes the 90% drop rate does I completely
8989s	forgot about that that's hilarious the
8990s	secret Tech is kill the flags yeah just
8993s	win kill the flags all right let's go
8994s	see some flagships die let's head
8999s	over hello and welcome back to the arena
9002s	I'm Ali Aris here with feina and we are
9005s	watching tuskers versus unspoken
9007s	Alliance tuskers have brought a BAL Gorn
9009s	with a medium guns spam setup and that
9011s	is their Flagship Bal Gorn fear what
9013s	have unspoken Alliance brought well they
9015s	have brought a born with uh two more
9018s	battleships to make it a triple
9019s	battleship Bal Gorn comp and both these
9021s	teams have brought flag Bal Gorn as you
9025s	have mentioned uh the desk was just
9027s	saying hey we want to see some B uh
9029s	flagships get blown up well this is a
9031s	good opportunity because both teams have
9032s	a rather large attack bar un spoken
9034s	alliance with a little bit more control
9036s	here just having Aus on their team comp
9040s	might be able to help against the medium
9041s	gun spam but either way with the match
9043s	is now underway and immediately The Damp
9045s	goes out onto vld in that Bal Gorn yep
9048s	and immediately we can see that Bal Gorn
9049s	web on to Ace Echo presumably the
9052s	harbinger of uh some damage going out
9055s	and the Thalia just getting deleted from
9057s	unspoken Alliance yeah uh Thia not able
9061s	to get up to speed nearly as far uh was
9063s	webbed up by the Balor vld and
9065s	unfortunately goodbye with the medium
9068s	gun tracking as soon as you're webbed
9069s	like that the omen of a echo staying
9071s	alive and living to win thus far hasn't
9074s	really been under a whole lot of threat
9076s	from these battleships as the Deacon
9077s	goes down from unspoken Alliance they
9079s	were now without their logy and it looks
9081s	like tuskers are going to move this one
9083s	bottom up with the medium gun spam and
9085s	save the battleships for last yep and
9087s	this is just a textbook medium gun spam
9089s	setup you have these guns they have
9090s	great tracking and uh if you want to
9093s	kill a flagship it's going to be much
9094s	much easier if there is no lodgy to rep
9096s	that Flagship so we take out the logi we
9098s	take out the paon effects we're taking
9099s	out every single bit of sustain that
9102s	unspoken Alliance might have down goes
9104s	the paon effects and the somen living to
9106s	win Ace Echo uh even though they've been
9110s	they've been grappled uh just has been
9113s	wasting so much time from unspoken
9114s	Alliance now there's damage onto this
9115s	Fleet Tempest as tuskers have decided
9118s	that they don't need to deal with the
9119s	low end or the uh frigs from uh unspoken
9123s	Alliance and instead moving right onto
9125s	the battleships the attack bar from
9126s	unspoken uh started this match a bit
9128s	larger this time tuskers getting more of
9130s	that applied damage the red part of the
9132s	attack bar going in favor as I say that
9135s	though grunt KO currently tackled with
9137s	the uh web and grapple uh so this aard
9141s	day might be a little bit out of
9143s	position for them but if they trade onto
9145s	the fleet Tempest it's definitely worth
9146s	it for tuskers yeah and with the the
9149s	triple Battleship setup you've got more
9150s	of your damage concentrated up in that
9152s	high end uh so that Fleet Tempest going
9154s	down is going to be a much larger
9155s	percentage of the unspoken Alliance
9157s	attack bar then grunt KO aarte so
9161s	tuskers will still be applying damage
9162s	after this trade goes out but uh Fleet
9164s	Tempest going deep into Hull uh it's not
9166s	even going to be a trade Tempest is down
9168s	grunt KO might even stabilize with that
9171s	source of damage off the field yeah the
9172s	only damage remaining from uh the side
9177s	of rage quit or of a unspoken Alliance
9179s	is the lasers from that ABBA and from
9182s	that Bal gor they go ahead and go
9184s	through the megas I want to see this Bal
9186s	Gorn die we have 7 minutes and 26
9189s	seconds remaining in the match I expect
9191s	tuskers to turn this Bal gor any second
9193s	now because they really do not need to
9195s	kill this Abba or really anything else
9197s	to win the match so why not give us a
9199s	shiny kill Ma and the Bal Gorn is now
9201s	the primary from the tuskers already
9204s	into 2/3 uh armor yeah and that Bal Gorn
9208s	could be fit with a whole variety of
9210s	shiny modules hopefully it'll post
9212s	hopefully the desk will be able to tell
9213s	us what the total value of the Bal Gorn
9215s	is uh but it is absolutely not going to
9219s	survive the onslaught of the medium gun
9220s	spam medium gun spam very high damage
9223s	and we are seeing that being applied
9224s	very well continuously in this
9227s	match and thus we say good by to our
9230s	first Flagship of Alliance tournament 20
9235s	it is a flag Bal Gorn one of the more
9237s	popular uh flagships of this tournament
9240s	uh see a lot of teams going for the Bal
9242s	Gorn a lot of teams going for that armag
9243s	Navy issue and we'll see how it's fitted
9246s	um I'm interested to see you know what
9249s	kind of webs were on it I think that's
9250s	always the first question you ask when a
9252s	flag Balor goes down we haven't had flag
9253s	Balor in the tournament for quite some
9255s	time have we no flag borns they're
9258s	banned for a long time now they're back
9260s	uh the ranged web bonus is quite amazing
9264s	on that Bal gor we've been talking about
9265s	it all day uh they can really Reach Out
9268s	across the arena 60 km more with those
9270s	officer setups uh and with the points
9274s	changes a little bit more granularity
9276s	it's time to bring them back time to see
9278s	how they do uh and theyve been quite
9280s	popular in this tournament uh this is
9282s	the first one that's dead but not the
9283s	first one that's been fielded that white
9285s	squall match earlier we saw a flag Bal
9287s	Gorn there doing its best to use the
9290s	longrange webs for control uh so here
9293s	both teams similarly using the long
9295s	range webs to try to help the rest of
9297s	their team apply damage but tuskers they
9300s	are much more successful with their
9302s	damage application than the unspoken
9304s	Alliance team and you know uh the desk
9307s	was talking a little bit about how
9308s	tusers hasme aieve this kind of uh
9311s	interesting uh Mastermind behind a lot
9313s	of their comp design um this is kind of
9317s	one of those examples I think a lot of
9318s	teams going into this tourament when we
9321s	see borns don't necessarily associate
9323s	that with medium gun spam because medium
9324s	gun spam you're thinking of relatively
9326s	fast ships uh even though their armor um
9329s	that can kite or choose to brawl at any
9331s	time and a BAL Gorn doesn't typically
9333s	fit that Niche but as we see in this
9336s	match uh so long as you have the right
9338s	matchup for it and the born is able to
9341s	keep control and keep your medium gun
9343s	spam applying uh then it pays dividends
9348s	and doesn't bring too terrible damage
9350s	either with officer guns and damage mods
9353s	this molus the last member alive of
9355s	unspoken Alliance will we see an edge of
9357s	glory we've only seen a handful of today
9360s	yep mollus is uh running away uh you
9363s	doing their very best to Lo to damp out
9366s	every single member of the tuskers but
9367s	of course uh you can only fit so many
9369s	damps in the mids of mollus and you
9371s	cannot damp the entire medium gun team
9374s	uh so kiting trying to uh live as long
9378s	as possible the all caught up to the us
9380s	here oh no all right so uh merer did not
9384s	seem to be fit with tackle as uh this is
9387s	a uh I'm going to take a look at the
9389s	model should be a gun Maller considering
9391s	the setup and in fact uh is a gun Maller
9395s	so uh you know not having the tackle in
9398s	the mids because that's not really what
9399s	this comp is designed to do with any of
9401s	their ships uh but as we see that
9404s	finally a scram lands on top of this
9405s	molus as more members of tuskers get on
9407s	top of them and uh Taj will eventually
9411s	die uh before the M Falls do you have
9414s	any final words before we send it back
9416s	to the desk a great great job to both
9419s	teams for bringing the flagship uh great
9421s	job for unspoken for putting it on the
9422s	field uh our condolences for your loss
9426s	uh although we are very excited to see
9428s	what was inside that delicious pumpkin
9430s	treat uh one thing that might not have
9431s	been mentioned already uh 90% Loot drop
9433s	during an event right now on TQ so if
9435s	there were any shiny modules that got
9437s	dropped it is very likely that the
9438s	tuskers have taken them and added them
9440s	to their War chest and with that
9443s	explosion we are done with this match
9444s	we'll send you a break and then back to
9446s	the
9447s	desk welcome back there we have our
9450s	first Flagship has gone down uh a
9452s	flagship Bal Gorn has bitten the dust uh
9456s	it is a relatively modest fit very
9458s	demure fit for this particular Balor uh
9460s	Bart take me through what happened in
9461s	that match so uh it's really funny
9464s	because we were talking about tuskers
9465s	being off meta and they make their own
9467s	game up and they did except that they
9469s	didn't really they went back to at16 and
9471s	brought the basically the setup which
9473s	was the reason why Flagship alorn more
9476s	or less got banned from the game for 3
9477s	years uh obviously it's a little bit
9479s	different points are different you know
9480s	the game's a little bit different but
9481s	yeah it was a ton of DPS with a flagship
9483s	B Gorn right off the bat they did
9485s	exactly what you said they could do
9486s	which was web down anything in the
9488s	entire game uh they Webb down the lodic
9490s	ships and they blew the lodgi ships up
9492s	and then that was kind of it um I was
9494s	really impressed with how much DPS the
9495s	tuskers actually put out considering
9498s	that they had so many points with the
9499s	flagship Bal Gorn um it was kind of
9502s	rough I think uh you know both teams had
9504s	a similar idea tuskers probably I'm not
9506s	even going to say they necessarily
9507s	executed it better I think this was
9509s	literally a case of bling letting them
9511s	win because if you looked at the other
9513s	Flagship which I you know I can tell you
9515s	it's on zkill I don't know if we can
9516s	post it immediately but it was uh not
9518s	the uh spiciest fit in fact I would say
9521s	that it was a very poor it was a poor
9523s	fit yeah I mean one of the one of the
9525s	things about the balard is of course uh
9527s	the web we talked about it earlier on
9529s	and uh I look at this one here CU see
9530s	it's a dark blood status webifier it's a
9532s	it's a pretty good web uh but there are
9534s	plenty more but this is one of those
9536s	things where the price starts to get
9537s	prohibited very quickly uh that's why
9539s	you get those like Tobias webs like 80
9541s	100 billion or so um but there are
9543s	plenty of other other ones and like we
9544s	said 90% lit drop event completely
9547s	forgot that was on uh that is affecting
9549s	it so you can see most of this dropped
9551s	uh so if that had been a spicy potato
9554s	then uh you would have been able to get
9555s	a little little cheeky upgrade perhaps
9557s	for your ship so you should all be
9558s	shooting flagships don't not shoot
9560s	flagships um you may have
9562s	noticed the Australian in the room see
9564s	be convict hello hello how are you I'm
9567s	doing all right that was a really cool
9569s	match when the first two when the Lodi
9571s	wi got basically eviscerated in the
9572s	first 45 seconds I was like I just hope
9575s	they'll be able to kill one ship in
9576s	order to save face and they got the omen
9578s	so I'm like all right okay you got some
9579s	runs on the board to use in Australian
9581s	eism well English invented Cricket
9584s	doesn't matter we're better at now um
9586s	but uh no that was that was a really
9588s	super cool fight um it was kind of sad
9591s	to watch them go plinking off one by one
9593s	I think the pontif effects and the Mages
9594s	also basically just got like one shot it
9596s	felt like yeah um but good job cut good
9598s	job tuskers see if they can at least
9600s	make a top four again this year yep I
9601s	mean losing to the tuskers is it's like
9604s	yeah I mean it's Champs you don't have
9606s	to uh come away from that feeling
9608s	anything less than like yeah we gave it
9609s	a good run we we we brought our we
9612s	brought our balls to the table we
9613s	brought our Flagship like you you go up
9616s	against team like the tuskers you kind
9617s	of like this is going to be a tough one
9619s	um and tuskers obviously showed some
9621s	respect as well brought their Flagship
9622s	saying hey you know we we we're taking
9624s	this seriously we treat you like an
9625s	enemy and of course they they just
9627s	managed execute in this instance uh but
9630s	yes pleas be convict yes um first of all
9633s	welcome thank you I lovely to have you
9635s	here it's a pleasure to be here y now
9637s	you have come along to talk about um a
9639s	little shindig next year I believe yeah
9642s	just just a little thing we throw back
9643s	in the brocs here in Iceland uh ion e
9646s	FanFest is going to be back in 2025 from
9648s	the 1st and 3rd of May next year uh we
9651s	are inviting everyone as usual to come
9654s	and I'm here to give you a little bit
9656s	information on the event and also a
9658s	warning um I think it's going to sell
9661s	out oh yeah I think it's going to sell
9663s	out as well we sold out last year we've
9664s	got every reason we think that will sell
9666s	out again this year as well uh and so
9669s	I'm not trying to like oh Foo hype but
9671s	just letting you know if you are
9672s	planning on coming to FanFest uh next
9674s	year probably get your ticket sooner
9676s	rather than later because if you leave
9677s	your run too late you might not be able
9678s	to get your hands on some
9680s	Also earlier in the week or was it last
9681s	week now it's been a while um we
9684s	released a news item where we announced
9685s	a whole bunch of tickets for side events
9687s	so that when you're coming here you can
9689s	also experience from other parts of
9690s	Iceland not just be trapped inside
9692s	Harper with a bunch of sweaty nerds for
9694s	3 days as I which is something I Delight
9697s	in mind you cuz those are my people um
9700s	uh but yeah there are tickets for things
9701s	like the Golden Circle Tour and the land
9703s	party at the top of the world which was
9704s	a little side event that the community
9706s	team did last year but it was so popular
9708s	we decided to make it part of the
9709s	program
9713s	people and we
9715s	haveed mpsi fet or an nfsi Fleet if you
9719s	think about it and uh with a bunch of
9722s	guest FC's from CCP in the player
9723s	community it's a lot of fun yeah it was
9725s	super good like being in this big sort
9727s	of land Center in a fleet with all the
9729s	people around you and then you hear
9731s	someone like I've got points and it's
9732s	like from just over there like all right
9734s	cool yeah it's super fun yeah for
9736s	roaming we use for roaming and during
9737s	this event we use special uh CCP
9741s	internal use only 100 person uh needle
9744s	Jack filaments so we can get the entire
9746s	fleet to wherever we need to go we just
9747s	yeat out there with like 50 people 60
9749s	people it's pretty wild yeah it's
9751s	definitely a great event I have the list
9753s	of other events up uh some of these ones
9754s	are amazing obviously you mentioned uh
9756s	the Golden Circle and the land party at
9757s	top of the world there's also just cool
9759s	General things like the walking tour
9760s	there's like um walking tour around
9763s	downtown rikic to see the sites with a
9764s	tour guide that explains to you the
9765s	history of the city uh things like fly
9767s	over Iceland you probably some of you
9770s	may have experienced something like this
9771s	before in other places where you just
9772s	like sit on a giant mechanical rack with
9774s	a huge iMac screen in front of you and
9776s	in this experience you get flown around
9778s	the sights and sounds of Iceland it's a
9779s	really cool experience um it helps you
9782s	uh cover a lot of the country without
9784s	even getting out of your chairs quite
9785s	fightful uh there's also things like the
9787s	pub crawl which is uh always a Smash Hit
9790s	yes um there's been some incredible Pub
9792s	crawls over the years uh I remember I
9794s	think it was 2013 FanFest uh someone had
9797s	a great idea of giving each of the team
9798s	a flag with their team number on it uh
9800s	it turned very quickly into Capture the
9802s	Flag yeah that's right it did uh I I
9804s	also tried to obtain a couple of flags
9805s	myself that year um the we don't do
9807s	Flags anymore wise we do that now it got
9811s	it got very competitive yeah it did it
9813s	well give a bunch of ease players
9814s	something to cover it something to take
9816s	off their off their neighbor and they'll
9818s	do it you'll get dragged through the
9819s	street holding on to the end of the pole
9821s	while someone tries to get into a taxi
9822s	with it yeah there's a couple of other
9825s	things as well um so I see party top of
9828s	the world that's a great one and then of
9829s	course the the Sunday soak afterwards in
9831s	Sky lagon the party at the top of the
9833s	world is included in the price of the
9834s	FanFest ticket so you get to come to
9836s	this awesome show that we do at Harper
9838s	on the final night uh it's always a
9839s	blowout we get some really cool musical
9841s	acts and have a just a giant concert
9843s	it's absolutely mind-blowing if you go
9844s	back uh to previous years um there's a
9846s	lot of really cool footage from the
9847s	party at the top of the world that sort
9848s	of makes it onto YouTube and things like
9850s	that definitely something you have to be
9851s	in uh isol to experience though at F
9853s	first time yeah it's definitely awesome
9855s	but yeah as CCB convict says uh buy your
9857s	tickets uh it's going to sell out so I'm
9860s	here to instill the
9861s	fal buy them do it bu them right now I
9864s	have one more thing to say before you
9865s	move on to talking about the next match
9867s	please all right twitch chat which
9868s	camera I on this look stra in the center
9870s	one this one this middle one all right
9871s	all right twitch chat the swords okay
9874s	the swords if you work at if you work at
9877s	CCP for 10 years you get given a sword
9881s	and it go can go on the wall here or
9882s	maybe you can take it home with you so
9884s	that's the reason for the swords I'm I'm
9886s	this close to just making a bot trigger
9887s	like exclamation mark swords so for all
9890s	the people who keep coming into the
9891s	there's like 6,000 plus people watching
9894s	it feels like every other person who
9895s	comes in is like hey what's with the
9896s	swords so it's it's like a it's a it's a
9899s	a gift from CCP for 10 years of service
9901s	so CCP arcade told me we could get a
9903s	couple of them out and have a sword
9904s	fight later we were actually going to
9905s	like take the cases off the swords and
9907s	just leave them exposed but I was
9908s	worried like someone would bump into one
9910s	or something and just like get necked on
9911s	stream like oh probably be great for
9913s	viewership but you know how do you f out
9915s	that in insurance form like how did the
9916s	man get decapitated at the gaming event
9919s	yes sorry I my sword was loose and it
9921s	fell out awkward yeah but yeah their
9924s	swords they're pretty cool uh there's
9925s	like you guys can't see because the
9926s	camera's kind of tight but there's quite
9928s	a lot of Swords uh there's also behind
9929s	here A big double-handed one uh for 20
9932s	years that one belongs to hilmer so uh
9935s	it's a pretty cool thing uh that we do
9937s	here at CP and each sword is customed by
9939s	the way that's why they're all slightly
9940s	different they're customized to the
9941s	person who gets them you get to pick
9942s	like pommel the type the length a whole
9945s	bunch of stuff it's pretty cool um all
9947s	right I guess we have to talk about
9948s	spaceships again to the sword
9950s	I like swords but I think we should talk
9951s	about spaceships um okay our next match
9953s	is going to be Rage Quit cancel sub
9956s	versus plug in play and the bans for
9958s	this match are uh rage qu ban Banning
9961s	out the EOS orthis Armageddon simitar
9964s	and plug and play Banning out the lok
9966s	the Blackbird the cycl fleet issue and
9969s	the night talk blackb py tell me about
9971s	these bands uh rage qu cancel sub band a
9974s	sword so you can't be happy about that
9976s	right this a citar there's two reasons
9978s	to this like oh two reasons to dislike
9980s	them AP from the
9981s	[Music]
9982s	name yeah it should be instead of
9985s	canceling your St you should buy your
9986s	FanFest tickets you you know what I miss
9988s	is I feel like I used to be able to be
9990s	toxic and then now now we have you guys
9992s	have taken it away from like man B St
9995s	come look a bit salty out there quick
9996s	convict to be even mean and so he looks
9998s	good uh no it's I mean they're pretty
10001s	standard bands um I do like orth's bands
10003s	are cool but I do really like the citar
10005s	band because it basically says hey we
10008s	don't want Plug and Play to do anything
10011s	kitey versus us because you can't do
10013s	Shield kite without a citar I say that
10015s	people try and then they die because
10017s	they're alternative logi ships just they
10019s	can't keep up or they don't take enough
10020s	so there's a thought process behind it
10022s	uh Plug and Play is like don't Shield
10024s	Rush us like straight up do not Shield
10027s	Rush us um but I'm wondering if it's a
10029s	mind game because like I I always love
10030s	when they somebody bans out Shield rush
10032s	and then they Shield Rush themselves to
10033s	kind of be like haha tricked you so uh
10036s	but I do know that plug- and play is a
10037s	pretty experienced team that's kind of
10039s	put together from a bunch of different
10040s	places rage cancel sub I think we were
10042s	looking through it and we're kind of
10044s	like oh okay you know it's awesome that
10045s	they made it through the feeders and I
10047s	don't say that in a disparaging way like
10048s	it's it's hard to make it through the
10049s	feeders but uh they're unknown and that
10051s	can be really scary yep and I see
10052s	they're also bringing their Flagship
10054s	Vindicator to this fight so Vindicator
10056s	uh the favorite ship of our other
10058s	Australian who's here today Wing cross
10060s	um very good at slowing things down
10062s	substantially uh very very strong webs
10064s	on that thing especially when you can
10066s	Flagship it uh which obviously they have
10068s	done uh however uh it also gets screened
10072s	very easily from things but again very
10074s	good web so it can just kill whatever
10075s	screens it so it is sort of like a yeah
10078s	maybe it can it can do it but it can be
10080s	pretty risky at times uh predictions CCP
10083s	convict uh I will go with plug plug and
10086s	play I think that's fair M yeah I'm I'm
10088s	gonna go with Plug and Play because uh I
10090s	I don't want you know I don't want to
10091s	get added by Ricos like where you being
10093s	toxic to me and you know we can we'll
10094s	save that for later I want to see if
10096s	twitch what twitch CH say and just go
10097s	with them Plug and Play they agree wow
10100s	unanimous so either we're all going to
10101s	be right or all wrong we're all going to
10103s	be right or wrong together that's the
10105s	important part and you know where else
10106s	we could be together at
10108s	FanFest well let me say you
10112s	should all right let's hand over to the
10114s	arena for this
10117s	match welcome back to the arena my name
10119s	is FV joined by Ali Aris and we are
10121s	ready to go with Rage Quit canel sub on
10124s	the red side bringing their Flagship
10126s	Vindicator and a triple Battleship armor
10129s	braw setup what have plug- andplay
10130s	brought plug- andplay also have a triple
10133s	Battleship armor brawl setup we have a
10135s	Navy Armageddon Redeemer a badden all
10137s	three strong pulse laser gunboats uh
10141s	that dger also going to be quite vicious
10143s	against the rage quit cancel sub
10145s	backline yeah especially that small
10147s	stuff does not like dealing with uh the
10150s	small entropic disintegrator uh that the
10153s	dger brings out of course uh a ship that
10156s	has been up and down in popularity
10158s	across a couple of tournaments it's
10159s	always nice to see a jogger as the match
10161s	is now underway uh both teams warping in
10164s	at ranges of course bit more projection
10166s	from the Plug and Play side so they had
10168s	warped all at 50 but they are now
10169s	boating in as Rage Quit cancel sub
10172s	starts boating away yep and rage quit
10174s	cancel sub they have the tracking
10176s	disruption for the Redeemer and the Abad
10177s	they can bring down the ranges a little
10179s	bit but it's just one tracking disruptor
10181s	meanwhile plug andplay they've got some
10183s	damp so both sides have a bit of control
10186s	but that control is going to be less and
10188s	less effective the close the closer they
10190s	get and this rage quit cancel sub
10192s	Vindicator with its close range webs is
10196s	really more of a brawler than it is a
10197s	projection ship yeah I mean it's the
10200s	shortest range out of all these ships
10201s	and the most likely to die to a
10203s	crucifier but as I say that uh Lucius
10205s	vanle inside crucifier uh getting some
10208s	pot shots taken at them of course the
10210s	ders number one priority in this match
10213s	is to get this crucifier molus off the
10215s	table while staying in licks range of
10218s	the uh ships and once to give its links
10219s	to as I said that though the triple
10221s	Battleship core from plug- andplay are
10223s	onto the armag Navy of uh Arena arthy as
10227s	their first primary target and both
10230s	teams still just kind of skirmishing
10232s	moving around the arena a little bit
10233s	trying to find the right opening for
10237s	their team so uh again plug andplay a
10239s	little bit extra range minus the
10241s	tracking disruptors of course uh
10242s	ragequit still just looking for a way to
10245s	bring that Vindicator to Bear because
10247s	the big thing with the flagship
10248s	Vindicator is it is absolutely deadly to
10250s	anything within 20 km but it really has
10253s	to get close in order to do that most
10256s	important damage so what we usually see
10259s	with The Vindicator is we worst case you
10261s	go in someone sets their tackle on you
10263s	orbits you at 500 and then all the webs
10267s	in the world aren't going to help you
10268s	kill a Confessor kill a Punisher kill
10270s	just some uh tackle free that uh the
10274s	dger the pona effects any of those could
10276s	potentially shut down that flag
10277s	Vindicator so the the vindy doesn't want
10279s	to go until it's with the rest of the
10280s	team uh so we should just see these
10282s	teams sort of jockey for position yeah
10284s	and obviously a flag Vindicator can
10286s	bring officer webs under links and heat
10288s	they got about 30 kilom out U merge quit
10291s	cancel sub is a team made up of uh
10294s	primarily tournament vets from other
10296s	tournaments so I wouldn't be surprised
10297s	if they have an officer web on that
10299s	Vindicator but we will not know unless
10301s	that Vindicator dies meanwhile plug
10303s	andplay iser XX currently being the
10305s	Target in the primary got under those
10307s	90% Vindicator webs is now uh about to
10311s	get brawled out by this Vindicator uh
10313s	meanwhile uh actually gets away the N
10316s	cycled from the Redeemer and the
10318s	Armageddon Navy stops The Vindicator
10320s	from getting the web out and the Navy
10322s	Armageddon gets out and now the Ashu uh
10325s	dealing with some pressure from one of
10327s	these other battleships the grapple yeah
10329s	so both teams still just jockeying for
10331s	position and that ashamu really in a
10334s	tight spot tackled down webbed nuded not
10338s	going anywhere
10339s	not really going to be able to get away
10341s	from the oncoming brawl uh and we can
10345s	see the uh Vindicator debug just heading
10348s	straight for uh that ashamu yeah and
10352s	obviously uh you know ashamu access the
10356s	screen for this plug andplay Squad so uh
10359s	is the one who's trying to keep the
10361s	Vindicator off but as we see if the Ashu
10363s	gets caught and The Vindicator gets on
10364s	top there's really not a whole lot in
10365s	Ashu can do for a pirate Cruiser it's
10368s	not particularly tanky um and obviously
10371s	you have uh Deacon and Inquisitor for
10374s	your reps so not anything that's going
10376s	to be able to keep an ashm under the
10377s	full brunt of a Vindicator that said
10379s	plug andplay with the redeema and their
10381s	Armageddon Navy they do have four bonus
10384s	NES on their team assuming those are
10386s	full NES and the highs from both those
10388s	uh ships so they could potentially uh
10392s	shut off the vindicators guns if they
10393s	play it smart but right now they're
10395s	focused on this uh Navy armor gedon
10397s	keeping it nuded out while some damage
10399s	is going on on the Cruis fire in the
10400s	background it just seems to be drone
10401s	damage at the moment as he's not tackled
10403s	up by the dger or anything else yeah so
10406s	really sort of a slow slow evolution of
10411s	of the game here um hashimu moving off
10414s	of that moving on to the Redeemer those
10416s	NES are quite threatening to really all
10419s	three of the gunships on the rage quit
10422s	cancel sub side uh but that Armageddon
10424s	Navy on of Arena on the rage quick
10426s	cancel sub is taking a huge chunk of
10429s	damage from those plug andplay gun boats
10431s	but dots and the Redeemer ended up
10432s	getting caught and is now under the full
10435s	might of a Vindicator uh the full webs
10437s	the full blasters uh with as much bling
10441s	as uh R quck cancel sub could put on
10445s	that Vindicator so uh the Redeemer still
10447s	has those Tech 2 resists so it's going
10449s	to be a bit more difficult and obviously
10451s	has the reactor uh the reactive armor
10453s	hardener potentially as I say that
10455s	though this Cruise fire Lucius van CLE
10457s	in the backline seems to be going down
10459s	yeah and this is a smart play you just
10461s	put your drones oh and one of those
10462s	deacons just disappeared wrecking shot
10465s	straight to the face uh yeah this is
10468s	smart play you put your drones on a
10469s	crucifier you put your drones on a small
10471s	ship while pressuring a big ship and
10473s	you're splitting the logistics up both
10476s	teams here are running those logi frigs
10477s	they're close range they can only really
10480s	rep one thing at a time the crucifier
10482s	and the Navy Armageddon don't really
10483s	want to be best buddies they don't want
10485s	to hang out together and The Inquisitor
10487s	gets melted too
10489s	all right with the with the dam with the
10491s	Reps off the plug andplay side this is
10493s	looking a little bit sketchy for them uh
10496s	they might be able to trade it for arena
10498s	in the Navy armag again get the dger got
10500s	caught the dger caught caught trying to
10502s	take out uh some of the members in the
10504s	backline we see the dger actually
10506s	webbing Nexium in that Thalia at the
10509s	moment and trying to take out the logi
10510s	but uh get absolutely deleted and down
10513s	goes the dger and the Thalia will lose
10515s	their webs in a brief moment DS and the
10518s	Redeemer meanwhile also going down and
10520s	rage quit cancel sub starting to run
10522s	away with this match yeah that was a
10523s	really good reaction from Rage Quit
10525s	cancel sub uh one of the things that we
10526s	see separate uh we see good teams do is
10530s	when something is happening in their
10532s	backline they're able to quickly turn
10534s	around and react to that some of that is
10536s	the positioning making sure that your
10537s	loggy aren't too far away from the rest
10539s	of the team that can really impact
10541s	something some of that is just the team
10544s	you know being aware of the whole grid
10546s	not getting too tunnel visioned on uh so
10548s	very well done by the The Rage Quit team
10551s	and yeah uh they've lost their Navy
10553s	Armageddon that's a chunk of their
10555s	damage but that Vindicator still
10557s	perfectly healthy perfectly fine they
10559s	still have reps even though uh Nexium
10562s	and Nathalia is tackled they've got NES
10564s	on the logi forgets but rage quits in a
10566s	good spot here yeah it's uh a bit
10569s	unfortunate for plug andplay that they
10571s	uh ended up not being able to out kite
10573s	this Vindicator um it all starts with
10576s	the ashm kind of getting caught and
10577s	getting um in range of those Vindicator
10580s	webs in an attempt to scream and uh with
10583s	that you know just starting to get
10585s	picked apart a little bit of an
10586s	overextension from the jogger after the
10588s	Deacon and The Inquisitor get voled uh
10591s	basically by Rage Quit cancel sub and uh
10594s	the match just starts snowballing from
10596s	then on and there out R qu Camp so
10598s	they'll lose the Navy armor that's fine
10600s	by them uh some damage onto this Abba
10602s	but plug andplay really don't have a
10604s	whole lot left in the tank yep and uh
10607s	that is uh while plug- andplay do have a
10610s	flagship Navy Armageddon available
10611s	they've chosen not to field it in this
10614s	particular matchup so the only Flagship
10616s	on on field is debug in The Vindicator
10618s	and uh this is not going to be another
10620s	one of those matches where we get to see
10621s	a flagship kill mail uh so well done uh
10625s	wing nut uh you've got one on the board
10627s	here for your uh Vindicator scoreboard
10630s	very exciting news uh the windicator uh
10633s	one of the less popular flagships this
10635s	year um kind of uh the same places the
10639s	barest in terms of the amount of teams
10640s	that have brought it uh has been popular
10643s	in previous tournaments but obviously
10644s	with the return of Flagship borns a lot
10647s	of teams really have uh gone into that
10650s	one um this year I hope we see some more
10652s	flagships obviously uh we seen a lot of
10655s	flagships on day number one but uh we're
10657s	not quite done with our first round
10659s	after this match and after the break
10661s	we're going to take an even longer break
10663s	as we get ready for the second half of
10664s	the day so be ready for that there will
10667s	be a couple of matches for the remainder
10669s	of the round one matches and then a
10671s	couple lower bracket matches after that
10673s	so uh do stay tuned as everything
10676s	develops throughout the rest of the day
10677s	Navy armagon of iser XX uh as you
10680s	mentioned not a flagship but uh still
10682s	being melted under the full might of a
10685s	windicator and Abba and down goes that
10688s	Navy genon yep and we can see that the
10691s	uh The Vindicator is doing the correct
10693s	thing for the battleship vers Battleship
10694s	piloting if you just take a look at the
10696s	speed over there the speed of The
10698s	Vindicator is zero because uh for these
10700s	very large battleships uh in order to
10703s	fully apply and not just cause tracking
10706s	problems for themselves uh you really
10707s	just want to stop your ship uh apply
10711s	void directly to the enemy
10714s	hole it's a it's a very fun dance indeed
10719s	I hate control space because you're not
10721s	going anywhere uh either way uh some
10724s	more damage going on on this Abba 30
10726s	seconds left in the match do you have
10728s	anything else to say before we hand it
10729s	to a break uh not right now just
10732s	enjoying watching uh this rage quit like
10734s	you mentioned a bunch of experienc
10736s	tournament pilots on the team formed
10739s	under under a new Banner plug andplay uh
10741s	we saw them be very strong in the
10742s	feeders so I'm hopeful for a very strong
10744s	lower bracket run from them and uh we
10747s	will see as fear mentioned lower bracket
10749s	later today and since we see lower
10750s	bracket later today that mean does mean
10752s	that some teams will be going home on
10754s	day one very exciting uh I'm hoping we
10757s	see more flagships uh
10759s	I don't know that we're going to see any
10760s	more flag vindicators they're not that
10762s	popular um probably going to see more
10764s	flag Bells flag navies in particular in
10766s	the lower bracket matches because if you
10768s	have it you better use it to keep
10769s	yourself in the in the game with that
10772s	we're going to take a quick break when
10773s	we return the desk will break that down
10775s	and we'll take the even longer break as
10777s	we get ready for the second half of the
10779s	day we'll be right back after this yeah
10781s	you have it uh very very brightly
10784s	painted Vindicator uh taking the win
10787s	there uh for Rage Quit cancel sub uh
10790s	exciting match it looked like it could
10791s	have gone either way for a while uh
10792s	black bar pirate talk to me through it
10793s	what happened I mean basically The
10796s	Vindicator had the dream match of any
10797s	Vindicator pilot ever which was nobody
10800s	controlled them they were not Ned they
10802s	were not screened they were not tracking
10804s	disrupted they were not ecmd he just
10807s	flew around and tackled things with 90%
10809s	webs and then it's like okay I'm in
10811s	range stop my ship press F1 oh look I do
10813s	Vindicator DPS for 10 minutes straight
10815s	and then they won I mean there's it's
10817s	yeah he and looked amazing like that
10820s	that skin that is exactly and I I think
10823s	that uh I think someone's going to be
10824s	interviewed about it later that is
10825s	exactly what the vision of the CCP art
10828s	team was when they put in that they're
10829s	like yes yellow with like rainbow spots
10832s	all over
10836s	it awesome um now uh I can't hear you C
10840s	be conf but I assume the stream can
10842s	because no one's no one's shouting at us
10845s	um but no they cannot hear you oh they
10848s	can hear CCP convict that is can you
10850s	hear the rest of us can I assume they
10851s	can hear the rest of us we we can I'll
10854s	be I'll be CCP convict oh good day mates
10857s	I'm here to talk about Fan Fest take
10860s	take a thing you can talk yeah you are
10862s	demoted be
10864s	gone be gone I've already spoken about
10867s	FanFest but during that last match I
10869s	went off and sent a telegram to CCP
10871s	ruffage who is responsible for running
10872s	the event and I said hey you know what
10873s	it be need is if we had a couple of
10875s	tickets to give away during this
10876s	Alliance tournament so he said that
10878s	sounds like a cool idea so in just a
10880s	second CCP Swift I'm sending you a
10883s	message T telepathically press the
10885s	button and start the raffle for the at
10887s	ticket so uh it'll be starting up soon
10889s	all you have to do is type exclamation
10891s	mark FanFest in twitch chat to enter
10893s	we'll draw one ticket today and we'll
10895s	draw another ticket next Saturday if you
10897s	win the ticket come to FanFest you know
10900s	now that's that's that's you know a good
10901s	$300 worth of value taken care of so
10903s	maybe that makes it easier for you to
10904s	get here if you uh if you still can't
10906s	make it a FanFest don't feel bad we'll
10908s	send out your swag bag and the other
10910s	things you would have got if you were
10910s	here in person um and if you already had
10913s	your ticket to FanFest well in find a
10915s	friend make make him come along make him
10917s	join
10918s	you and that's that that's that all
10920s	right did I do good I think you did
10922s	great we're all very proud of you um all
10924s	right so we're going to take a short
10925s	break we'll be back in about 20 minutes
10927s	or so but in the break uh CP Yen uh will
10930s	be coming on to have a bit of an
10932s	interview and a bit of a discussion with
10933s	CP X type so uh stick around for that uh
10936s	until then we'll see you back in about
10937s	20 minutes
10942s	back everybody to the intermission I am
10944s	CCP yoten joined alongside my very good
10947s	friend today CCP X Type thank you so
10949s	much CPX type for joining us here at the
10951s	desk for this intermission interview we
10955s	have a few minutes and we wanted to take
10956s	this opportunity to talk a little bit
10958s	about our friends here at CCP uh of
10962s	which I am one now which is crazy uh but
10965s	we wanted to shed a little bit of light
10966s	about what we do here the the people we
10968s	have here their experiences with both
10970s	the game and life and everything else so
10972s	CCB exite please introduce yourself to
10974s	the friends at home yeah uh so I'm CCP
10976s	xyp uh I'm a senior software engineer
10978s	here I've been working at CCP for seven
10981s	and a half years now seven and a half
10983s	years yeah so not too far from a sword
10986s	I'm getting there I'm getting there very
10987s	yeah which by the way just so it's not
10990s	just in case it's clear chat uh swords
10992s	if you're here for 10 years you get a
10994s	sword cbx at two and a half years from
10996s	getting a sword that must feel pretty
10997s	good yeah yeah yeah uh yeah I'm going to
10999s	have to start thinking about the design
11000s	because you get to design it yourself
11002s	like you know pick the handle and all
11003s	that stuff extremely cool yes extremely
11005s	cool so cbx not only are you a developer
11007s	you're a a software engineer here at CCP
11010s	in raik you've also been an eve player
11012s	for a long long time yeah uh like I
11015s	started playing in like early 2007 so
11018s	yeah uh if my math is R next next year
11022s	I'm going to have spent half my life
11023s	playing Eve online so I mean the the
11025s	game has obviously had like a you know
11027s	profound impact on me and my life I was
11029s	going to say I mean the would would you
11031s	have ever imagined in 2007 when you
11033s	first start I imagine you were a much
11034s	younger man at the time as we all were
11037s	uh would you have ever imagined at that
11038s	point that you would be standing here
11039s	right now in this studio no like uh like
11042s	and when I started like uh so I was
11045s	playing for AET Cafe and all like I was
11047s	you know spending too much time there
11049s	arguably and all of the people there
11051s	were playing Eve and to me it was kind
11054s	of making fun of them like okay it's
11055s	blue squares versus red squares like
11057s	what what the hell hell is that and then
11059s	they got me to try it and I got hooked
11061s	and I had no idea you know it would just
11063s	you know take me on this journey like
11065s	I've lived amazing things in the game
11067s	met so many people and ended up here uh
11070s	it's like amazing company amazing job
11072s	amazing country so yeah not bad right
11074s	not bad at all so let's talk about your
11076s	Eve career a little bit because I think
11077s	there's this this sentiment among a lot
11079s	of the players that there none of the
11080s	eve devs actually play the game uh
11083s	outside of the ones who like they know
11084s	play the game for sure but like there
11087s	are people in software develop people
11088s	Engineers working on the foundation of
11090s	the game right now who are active and
11093s	have been active Eve players for a long
11095s	time so what let's talk about your Eve
11096s	career where didd you start out yeah I
11098s	mean uh well the very start I started uh
11101s	as a parrot in this tiny LC Pockets like
11104s	Ander Ander Alin tunan yeah um and then
11108s	I I quickly moved on like to to nulc I
11111s	joined arran uh just like a month before
11114s	uh like uh CVA to oldest Alliance and
11116s	Eve oldest Alliance it's still going
11119s	going strong um so yeah uh I did like NC
11123s	roaming uh with a Shan basically just
11125s	you know roaming around Prov and catch
11127s	killing CVA and Sil um for about three
11130s	years uh then I wanted to kind of change
11133s	and I ended up joining Rooks and Kings
11135s	uh for which I flew for a little over
11137s	three years um and after that I foled
11140s	around in LC for a bit uh then I joined
11143s	tuskers uh for another three four years
11146s	I believe uh very very good time too and
11149s	then I joined CCP uh and like there was
11152s	a little bit of a break there um got
11155s	back into PVP and then I decided I
11157s	wanted to have a interesting change and
11159s	I started my industry Corporation for a
11161s	few years I thought it was going to be
11163s	easy peasy and oh I was wrong I gained
11165s	so much respect for all of the ENT guys
11167s	out there because it's nuts my God it's
11169s	like you know second job you get in you
11171s	check your emails run your projects but
11173s	it was super interesting so yeah you now
11175s	you you you skated right past it I'm
11177s	glad that chat uh managed to catch that
11179s	you did say Rooks and Kings Rooks and
11182s	Kings legendary Evon line PVP Corp uh a
11186s	with a storied history and not only were
11188s	you in Rooks and Kings I'm pretty sure
11190s	you're a bit of a movie star yourself
11191s	aren't you yeah uh I was lucky enough to
11195s	to be involved in the Clin call 3 movie
11197s	uh like it's uh like I think one of the
11200s	best fights I've ever you know been part
11202s	of in in EV online and yeah I mean it's
11206s	it's one of those things that especially
11207s	when you for people like myself coming
11209s	up in the game you know when I because
11210s	we started about the same time uh for
11213s	somebody who was less involved in Eve
11215s	for a long time uh but stayed connected
11218s	to the community and through um you know
11220s	to what was going on through videos
11223s	through these stories people were
11224s	telling claring calls one of those I
11225s	mean that was a big one that's that is
11227s	that is a I mean it's it's a huge deal
11229s	does it feel you know to you now or in
11232s	the moment did it feel to you like it
11234s	was as big a deal as it ended up being
11237s	no and I think I mean like to this fight
11239s	in particular when when you're having
11241s	the fight you're just you're just busy
11242s	fighting right uh but after I mean and a
11245s	lot of credit goes to Lord malder like
11247s	the leader of Rooks and Kings for you
11248s	know his amazing talent at putting
11250s	together stories and videos and that can
11253s	actually reach a lot of people uh but
11256s	yeah I think when like on the moment you
11258s	just don't really realize that you know
11260s	something's really Cool's happening and
11262s	that you're doing a good job and yeah
11264s	and you've got a little bit of a
11265s	Alliance tourament experience too
11266s	haven't you uh a bit
11268s	uh I mean I I flew with a shakan back in
11271s	wow um like maybe 856 or something
11275s	um uh yes to the chat
11278s	Salia uh you got me um and and then with
11285s	tuskers uh I played a I didn't play in
11287s	the matches I did a lot of you know
11289s	training uh so was like a good shooting
11291s	targets uh for you know many of them
11295s	yeah yeah but yeah so like and even if I
11298s	haven't flown in the 80 so much I've
11300s	always enjoyed watching it it's always
11302s	super interesting to just you know and
11304s	it is one of those things that I think
11306s	especially for people within CCP who
11307s	maybe don't have the same kind of
11309s	experience that like you or I have or
11310s	any of the people here who uh have been
11313s	players of e for a long time or have
11315s	participated in the alliance tournament
11316s	for a long time this is a cool
11318s	experience to give people elsewhere in
11319s	the company that kind of exposure I mean
11322s	you guys don't see it here but this is
11323s	the room we're in right now is the main
11325s	thoroughfare at ccp's headquarters in
11328s	raik I mean there are literally offices
11331s	there there there the canteen where we
11333s	all eat lunch is right across the corner
11335s	so throughout this entire next week this
11338s	set is going to be taking up the
11339s	dominant space in ccp's HQ here at uh
11343s	our headquarters in raik like this is
11346s	one of those really cool opportunities
11348s	we have as players and developers to
11351s	share what we we do and and why it's so
11353s	important with the rest of our team yeah
11355s	and I think it's only second to FanFest
11357s	to like you know getting everybody in
11359s	the company just like really exposed to
11361s	the community uh and I think it's it's
11362s	always you know very good and healthy
11364s	for everybody I agree now as a developer
11366s	I know we're getting close on time as a
11368s	developer now you've you've transitioned
11370s	not so much being a player first but a
11372s	developer first do you feel like the uh
11375s	your experience as a player now has
11377s	driven your interactions with other
11379s	other developers and with the game as a
11380s	whole now that you're kind of you know
11382s	with a hand on the wheel so like uh like
11385s	as an experienced player uh working on
11388s	the game has a big impact because like
11390s	the I mean it's it's a very large game
11392s	uh there's a lot of things you know to
11395s	know and so when you have this
11396s	experience it's always very useful to be
11398s	able to bring that and say you know like
11400s	bring some insight into how things might
11402s	get used or abused uh all of this um and
11406s	there's a lot of those a lot of both of
11407s	those yeah of course uh and as a like as
11411s	a player it's it's interesting it was it
11413s	was a bit different when I joined
11414s	because there were stricter like
11415s	anonymity rules uh and so um that was
11419s	actually like I tried playing
11420s	anonymously it was very hard because you
11423s	you can't join a group you can't really
11425s	engage with people make friends like I
11426s	used to before yeah uh but that's uh uh
11429s	that's gone now uh and so yeah no [ __ ]
11432s	now it's like just uh I mean it's it's
11435s	slightly different because you got a
11437s	slightly different point of view on the
11438s	game it's very weird to play with
11440s	features you've worked on because all
11441s	you see is the you know the stuff okay
11444s	well that should work better or
11445s	something but it's it's very interesting
11447s	do you feel a sense of satisfaction
11449s	though when you see something that has
11450s	been only really in an abstract for such
11451s	a long time finally get pushed to
11454s	development and then pushed into product
11456s	like does that does that make you feel
11458s	something like down inside your soul
11459s	does the kid inside you playing Eve feel
11461s	that yeah of course I mean it's it's I
11463s	think it's super you know satisfying you
11466s	know you if you work really hard on
11467s	something and it just goes through you
11469s	know it's just like really really you
11471s	know feels really good extremely cool
11472s	extremely cool well folks thank you so
11474s	much for staying with us here we have
11476s	another couple minutes left in our break
11477s	here at the half uh for today's matches
11480s	and Alliance tournament 20 I have been
11482s	CCP and joined alongside my very good
11484s	friend CCP xtype we'll be back in just a
11486s	couple more minutes until then get
11488s	something to drink get up stretch those
11489s	legs and we'll see you back here in just
11491s	a few minutes thank you very
11494s	much back to Alliance tournament 20 uh
11497s	we've had the first half of the first
11499s	day we've seen explosions we've seen
11500s	victories we've seen a couple of upsets
11503s	as well uh but there is still plenty
11505s	more spaceship on spaceship violence
11507s	still to come and the next one will be
11509s	in just a minute so I'm going to quickly
11511s	go over the bands we have deteriorated
11513s	versus slow children at play
11514s	deteriorated banning at Theos Blackbird
11516s	pun effects and the megas will slow CH
11519s	player Banning out the slep near locate
11520s	Cyclone Fleet issue and the abandon
11523s	interesting sets of choice CP Aurora
11525s	joins us on the desk CP Aurora in 30
11528s	seconds or less tell me what you think
11529s	about these bands uh yes so it sounds
11532s	like uh I can't quite see them uh
11534s	deteriorated is on the left right uh
11537s	deteriorated on the top oh deteriorated
11539s	on the top okay so it sounds like
11540s	deteriorated really don't want to see
11542s	armor matchups so by Banning the Mages
11545s	and the P effects they're very much
11546s	indicating anything that would require
11549s	these ships uh is removed it does leave
11551s	open however the battle Cruisers as a
11553s	potential option but it very much limits
11555s	the scope of what you could bring in a
11557s	standard armor comp awesome and with
11559s	that we will head over to the arena for
11561s	this
11565s	match hello ladies and gentlemen welcome
11567s	back from the break I am moderator
11569s	joined by Wingnut cross and we're going
11570s	to have a very exciting match where
11572s	deteriorated looks like they are going
11574s	for a drone and ECM comp what if SL
11577s	children at play decided to run with
11579s	well the max guns we know what it's like
11581s	it's a good old uh medium gun spam but
11583s	it's going to be very interesting cuz
11584s	meeting gun spam is one of those comps
11585s	that kind of can go against this Widow
11587s	comp but at the same time it's not going
11588s	to be exactly a pleasant experience and
11590s	the Z backing this Widow that's a big
11592s	investment but it's one of the few times
11593s	I think the Z is good yeah the the
11596s	difficulty here with deterior rated is
11598s	that we can see their attack bar is very
11599s	tiny the control bar massive SL children
11602s	at play large attack bar very small
11604s	small control bar so slowroll they're
11606s	just going to want to punch through zarm
11608s	punch through um the dger uh any of
11611s	these ships that are not that tanky
11613s	before the Reps can SP and the mullus I
11615s	see why you would pre-re it trying to
11616s	make sure that you're not going to take
11617s	a ton of damage but already we're seeing
11620s	cross jams across the board from
11621s	deteriorated trying to do the level best
11624s	to try to get all those racial gems
11626s	spread across the board and the
11627s	harbinger the execu Navy augur these are
11630s	all pretty good targets and looks like
11631s	they might be pretty heavy into what
11634s	look like G Leni jams now the jam coming
11635s	off of a Vigilant maybe trying to go
11637s	back onto the bruix um might be cycling
11640s	around but just being very annoying with
11641s	it yeah trying to cycle between things
11643s	but the FIP is taking a ton of damage
11645s	the Confessor getting webbed very
11646s	heavily here yep yep say getting
11649s	punished and this VIP Widow is trying
11650s	his best to kind of force them to come
11652s	after him which which point the Z can
11653s	hold him but at the moment see damage
11655s	coming back on an Inquisitor in response
11656s	trying to get rid of logic to start off
11659s	yeah I can understand why you would do
11660s	that so deteriorated you're not going to
11661s	have a ton of damage right so punching
11663s	through any of these main core ships not
11665s	going to make sense but you break The
11666s	Inquisitor then you break the navatos
11668s	you work you know low down exactly and
11671s	slow children they're going to try to
11672s	knock through the Confessor they might
11674s	get it too he's already into H yeah they
11675s	do they do actually get um The
11678s	Inquisitor down and there's the
11679s	Confessor okay so that makes a lot of
11681s	sense for um Soul Children right
11684s	deteriorated they don't have a lot of
11686s	damage but the damage they do have is
11687s	going to be in that Confessor sple that
11689s	makes a lot of sense to me exactly that
11691s	losing a Confessor there it doesn't seem
11692s	that bad for a lot of other comps but
11693s	for this comp it's actually quite
11695s	painful you're losing a lot of very good
11697s	applied damage and honestly a good chunk
11699s	now if goes down now they've got rid of
11700s	all the logy from slow children now it's
11702s	just going to be a grind before they
11704s	lose their damage so the vexer now is
11706s	getting fullon spool repped and the muls
11708s	is taking chunk damage I don't think
11710s	it's going to be that impactful really
11712s	the mollus in this composition uh so
11714s	children what they're going to do sooner
11715s	rather than later is they're going to
11716s	realize that we're getting webt we're
11718s	getting scrammed by a lot of things and
11720s	that's going to be the vexor doing a
11722s	good job the D as well at screening and
11724s	speak of the drer though look at the man
11726s	he's gone that oh wow wow he's surviving
11728s	in just a sliver of Hol checking the
11730s	number 4% structure full look at the
11732s	Reps yeah exactly God what an excellent
11734s	play by Mattis so the thing about these
11737s	kind of ECM setups right is that they
11739s	become more and more effective the less
11741s	ships are on the field right now there's
11743s	only eight ships we see six Jam attempts
11746s	and the sple getting down rather low uh
11748s	the arm having to you know split and the
11751s	Vigilant actually droing that that there
11753s	is going to be one of the keys with the
11754s	T they've removed the damage ship now
11756s	now they can put that next jam on the
11757s	next damage ship they getting rid of the
11759s	log is a good start now you more they
11760s	kill the damage ships the more they can
11761s	Whittle the targets down to all they can
11763s	shoot is the Widow yeah I mean now the
11766s	Muller is completely scrammed off
11767s	getting killed off by drones and with
11769s	that I mean you really only got six
11771s	ships left I mean deteriorated their
11773s	attack bar was Tiny at the beginning but
11775s	now it's gotten rather massive and their
11777s	control bar fully applying Soul Children
11779s	at play is getting picked apart right
11781s	now exactly exactly exactly log's gone
11783s	they're losing the low end and they're
11784s	not really being to do anything and soon
11786s	that Widow is going to force them all to
11787s	Target the Widow which point the Z will
11789s	just point lodgy and it'll be game over
11791s	if it's not already going to be game
11792s	before they even get there yeah so now
11794s	we see that the zarm is actually being
11796s	um chased down by the um looks like one
11798s	of the prophecy Navy issue and a cloud
11800s	of rep Bots are coming after as well and
11803s	yes you know good call to kill the zarm
11805s	but it feels like maybe a little bit too
11807s	little too late I know you want to kill
11809s	the Confessor you wanted to try for the
11811s	fle but really like if you're countering
11814s	an ECM comp you cannot let the logi live
11816s	long you cannot let the ECM live a long
11818s	time or it's going to hurt you you can't
11819s	let the core of what this comp does
11822s	survive so well at the moment the Widow
11824s	Z is a very potent combo CU you notice
11826s	that the Z is starting to rep up now cuz
11827s	the Widow can just go you stop shooting
11829s	you stop shooting just keep them off of
11830s	the Z long enough to win which is what
11833s	you're saying and I mean look at the way
11834s	that the The Tackle being spread across
11836s	I mean there are damps scrams there are
11838s	webs on top of all of SL children to
11839s	play sink too mate they're throwing it
11841s	all at them there's even some NES and
11842s	some nsas in there like it is SL
11845s	children in play it is painful to live
11847s	right now and speaking of painful that
11848s	rudix is down into low hole it's about
11850s	to drop and that's going to be yet
11851s	another Jam you know hey that's another
11854s	racial Jam that that Navy BRS you can
11856s	throw it onto the aard or to you know
11858s	any of these other Amar ships and the
11860s	zarm is not stabilizing it's still
11862s	rather low but even if they do kill it
11865s	now they've lost so much on the
11868s	lost too much it's it's done it's
11869s	finished it's over I don't like calling
11871s	it that early but like it's this is one
11873s	of those comps that once you let it
11874s	build up to this rate it's done there
11876s	nothing they can do the Widow now has
11878s	full control he can do whatever he wants
11880s	if you want to turn off one ship on its
11881s	own done turn off All Ships he can try
11883s	it's really powerful you see the zarm
11885s	now I don't think he's even repping I
11886s	think he's just sitting there yeah I
11889s	mean the zarm is I mean taking a bunch
11891s	of damage from drones but I mean I don't
11892s	even think anything can lock it right
11894s	now because those widows they have
11897s	really really really strong uh Jam
11898s	potential interestingly enough the Widow
11900s	being the only ship this Alliance
11902s	tournament that is on the flagship ban
11904s	list God thank thank thank praise Bob
11906s	because I would not want to be the parts
11907s	going against that that would just be
11909s	pain I'd probably just eject down my
11911s	ship and leave yeah uh well now speaking
11915s	of leaving the grid uh we've got katsuko
11917s	then augur be the next victim of the
11920s	this Widow combination this is a very
11922s	kind of interesting and unique uh take
11925s	and spin on kind of the ACM comp a lot
11928s	of what we've seen has been a
11929s	combination of like two Rook or two
11931s	Blackbird or two Falcon if um that Rook
11934s	or Blackbird had been banned but really
11935s	seeing a widow this is the first time
11937s	we've really seen anyone bring it and be
11940s	successful with the exception of like
11942s	truth honor light I think like a year or
11943s	two ago we saw a widow Guardian version
11945s	I think I've seen a z version that's
11947s	honestly I kind of like again I'm not a
11949s	fan of the Z I hate these triangle
11950s	things but this this kind of comp is
11952s	where the Z shines because you can just
11953s	keep focusing and pushing them where you
11955s	want them to go as another ship goes
11956s	down it's just yeah slow children
11959s	pleasure to meet you here I'll see you
11960s	in the next bracket because wait no
11963s	there is next bracket isn't it yeah
11964s	there's a next bracket so this is the
11966s	Los for this is still the winner side so
11969s	little children at play they do lose
11971s	here um but they will have a chance uh
11973s	tomorrow or later today to redeem
11975s	themselves in the bottom side of that
11977s	bracket I think it's just the drones
11979s	that have been constantly just like
11980s	scratching that Z cuz he's not moved any
11982s	further up in in armor it's stayed
11984s	basically exactly where it is constantly
11985s	ticking up and down yeah there's just a
11987s	handful of um you know armor maintenance
11990s	spots and some uh you know handful of
11992s	Warriors from this Harbinger Navy and
11994s	prophecy Navy chasing after so I mean
11997s	the thing that the prophecy and
11998s	Harbinger are dealing with is that the
12000s	only thing they can lock of course is a
12002s	widow but good luck killing a widow
12004s	under zarm zad rep so this is something
12007s	where you either have to kill the widow
12008s	or you have to kill the zarm because
12010s	early on like the star exactly and this
12012s	is the kind of comp that theoretically
12013s	should be able to do that it's got eight
12015s	ships that can all shoot so they have
12017s	potential to potentially break through
12018s	something but going for this the
12020s	Confessor honestly most other comps are
12021s	probably agree with that but when you're
12023s	getting this Widow vag comp you kind of
12025s	need to see what the core problem is and
12027s	how to break that yeah and and like
12029s	you're saying right you look at the slow
12031s	children composition it's basically a
12034s	octo um you know missile sorry missile
12038s	speaking there it's medium gun right so
12039s	you've got essentially a ton of um those
12043s	Navy Cruisers Navy battle Cruisers and
12044s	even a Vigilant and a m right eight just
12046s	cord DPS ships but they don't always
12049s	necessarily have the greatest of sensor
12051s	strength and usually what you're fitting
12052s	in those mids is usually going to be
12054s	like targeting range um but that's going
12057s	to be all for us we can send it to a
12059s	break here and then the death to break
12061s	down widows why do they
12067s	work welcome back uh to Alliance
12069s	tournament 20 uh and we see our first
12072s	Widow uh on the field the the strength
12075s	of RNG whereas on the side of
12077s	deteriorated there um and they paired it
12079s	nicely with a delicious zaraz seems to
12082s	be Aurora why is that pairing so strong
12085s	yeah so uh the zaras spools up reps over
12088s	time so the longer that it reps a single
12090s	Target the longer that those reps stay
12092s	spooling on that Target the more they
12094s	they W every time the Widow has an ECM
12096s	bonus so what they do is they fill the
12098s	mid slots with ECM modules they fill the
12100s	low slots with armor tank and then the
12102s	whole goal is to taunt the other team
12103s	into shooting you because if you're
12105s	jammed you can only shoot the person
12106s	that is jamming
12107s	um so everybody hopefully shoots the
12110s	Widow and then the zarm spools on the
12112s	Widow preventing all of the the damage
12114s	because it's allowed to spool on just a
12116s	single Target which kind of lets that
12118s	zarm really shine in that scenario uh
12120s	what we saw however was they knew that
12122s	they knew that that was the plan and
12124s	they uh wanted to instead kill the low
12126s	end uh they tried uh the Widow rolled
12130s	really good on its gems they weren't
12132s	able to kill what they needed to kill
12134s	and they lost the match yep uh I mean I
12137s	think they came in they were like ha I
12138s	see what you're trying to do you're
12139s	trying to make us shoot your Widow well
12141s	we shall not do that instead we shall
12142s	die individually so it's a bit of a
12144s	shame uh but the yeah the power of etm
12147s	it's one of those things it gets
12149s	stronger and stronger and stronger as
12150s	the match goes on because at the start
12152s	there's 10 things that have to be jammed
12154s	and then there's nine and then
12156s	eventually you have one poor fellow with
12158s	all the jams just cycling continuously
12160s	for the last couple minutes of that
12161s	match I'm pretty sure um they couldn't
12164s	lock anybody like I'm pretty sure they
12165s	were all permanently jammed towards the
12166s	end Mr G you're a massive fan of ECM
12169s	tell me about ECM yes historically I'm a
12171s	massive fan of ECM uh old ECM really
12174s	sucked um you couldn't lock anything but
12177s	modern day ECM sucks a little bit less
12180s	cuz you can lock the ship that is
12181s	jamming you so with the Widow jamming in
12184s	this match um you would have been able
12186s	to lock the Widow but you wouldn't be
12188s	able to lock anything else on the grid
12189s	um it basically funnels all of your
12191s	you're targeting towards one person um
12193s	if there are multiple ECM ships on grid
12195s	and they are both jamming you then
12197s	you're able to lock both of them so when
12200s	it comes to having multiple UCM ships on
12202s	grids you want to be coordinating jams
12204s	that you're not overlapping them
12205s	especially if one of your ECM ships is
12206s	getting shot you usually let those jams
12209s	drop jam it with something else um and
12211s	then they'll have to like move over and
12213s	shoot the other ship or they can wait
12215s	about 20 seconds and hope that they
12218s	don't roll that jam um I think in this
12222s	match one of the ways that the slow team
12225s	could have won is just diving in and
12227s	trying to shoot the Widow at the very
12228s	beginning while the zarm is fairly
12230s	strong because it does increase the rep
12232s	amount each time that it Cycles um the
12234s	Widow also has a paper thin armor tank
12238s	um on TQ you can kind of get away with
12240s	it a bit more because you can you know
12241s	Imperial Navy plates you can do some uh
12244s	C type enams if you want to to keep it
12245s	kind of cheap but also a little bit more
12247s	survivable in the tournament you don't
12249s	get that luxury um Widow is the only
12251s	ship I believe that cannot be a flagship
12254s	um and you've seen how strong it can be
12256s	even as a ship um so imagine a flagship
12258s	that would be that would be amazing we
12260s	should bring that back but um yeah you
12263s	don't get the luxury of faction tank so
12265s	I think just shooting the Widow would
12267s	have actually allowed them to break
12268s	through it and then they'd have a free
12270s	run at the rest of the comp yeah we saw
12272s	a dger um get caught in a sliver of Hull
12276s	uh it was clear that some jams landed
12278s	just at the right time to save that dger
12281s	uh I forgot to ask how many H points it
12283s	was uh would survive but I assume it was
12286s	not that many uh because it looked
12288s	extremely toasty towards the end of that
12290s	match but yeah with that deteriorated
12292s	today they win that fight it's pretty
12293s	good match all in all although I'm sure
12295s	their opponents are feeling very much
12298s	the opposite uh we were discussing if
12299s	there was going to be a sound effect for
12302s	trying to lock while under Jam should be
12303s	like the sad Trum bone noise uh because
12305s	it is very frustrating just sitting
12307s	there spamming like lock you son of a
12309s	[ __ ] um but there's nothing you can do
12311s	ex have wait to die all right let's look
12313s	at our next match next match so this one
12315s	is going to be only Fleet versus postp
12318s	Clarity a stupendous uh pairing of names
12322s	here I'm very pleased with this one uh
12324s	only fleets Banning out the arbitrator
12326s	the armag nvy issue the typhoon Fleet
12328s	issue and the abadin uh post pod Clarity
12331s	Banning out the LOI the Armageddon the
12334s	abadin and the Scimitar CB Aurora your
12337s	thoughts on these bands yeah um some of
12340s	these are fairly standard the armag
12342s	geted Navy issue is a really popular
12343s	ship that we've been seeing in almost
12345s	every match where it's unbanned um so it
12347s	seems that that's just kind of a meta
12348s	pick that they're saying like we don't
12351s	think we would win in that matchup so
12353s	what else can we what else can we bring
12355s	the Loki pick on the other side kind of
12356s	signals that they don't want to see that
12358s	standard Nighthawk Loki Rush that we're
12360s	so familiar with arbitrator we've been
12363s	seeing a lot of those um so it's just
12365s	kind of a general maybe we want to bring
12367s	missiles or or or something other than
12370s	Dr shall bring some weapons yes possibly
12374s	um uh it's it's a little bit like the
12377s	the only Fleet spans are pretty wide so
12380s	they're they're just kind of like taking
12382s	little chunks out of different things to
12384s	hopefully maybe pick some holes in what
12385s	postp Clarity is want going to try to
12388s	bring uh maybe they're also trying to
12390s	obate exactly what they want to bring
12391s	because they don't have a lot of like
12394s	cohesive they didn't ban out like all
12396s	armor ships or or something in their set
12398s	so um yeah mytical might any any further
12401s	thoughts I find it quite interesting
12402s	that they're banning out the simitar and
12403s	the Loki yeah um I think the bad order
12406s	is quite interesting as well um Banning
12408s	out the Loki originally um then Banning
12411s	the Armageddon as well we've seen a few
12413s	Armageddon towards the earlier um
12415s	matches of the day we've also seen the
12417s	Armageddon Navy quite a bit it hasn't
12418s	really performed that well from what
12420s	we've seen so far I think um so it's
12423s	still interesting to see that teams are
12424s	Banning it out fairly early on the simar
12427s	ban given the amount
12430s	of basically like armor battleships
12433s	banned in the first wave right they're
12434s	not going to know that they banned the
12435s	Abad and the Fleet issue in the second
12437s	wave until those bands are shared the
12440s	simitar band just seems like another way
12441s	of going we just want to make sure that
12443s	we're not seeing any like super tanky
12445s	Shield kite uh not kite um Rush um or
12450s	kite really um but yeah I mean it it
12453s	does seem kind of out of place as well
12454s	because there's other options that you
12455s	could you could go for the scalo you
12456s	could go for the um Kieran you could
12459s	bring a basilisk if you really wanted to
12461s	and ospre is actually quite fast and
12462s	Reps quite well so yeah there's other
12464s	options yeah and the armag Navy is being
12466s	quite popular to to bring usually with a
12469s	geddon as well uh CP Aurora uh there was
12471s	a big buff to the Navy battleships about
12473s	a year or so ago um tell me a little bit
12475s	about the the Armageddon Navy issue uh
12478s	yeah so the Armageddon Navy issue is a a
12481s	very effective ship so it usually a lot
12483s	of ship people are running these with
12484s	rapid Heavies um it can bring a lot of n
12487s	power and being a Navy battleship it has
12489s	just an incredible amount of tank so it
12491s	is a very well-rounded ship um the
12495s	sometimes we talk about on like ships on
12497s	paper looking better than they are in
12500s	practice but I think this is one case
12502s	where it looks as good as it is uh the
12504s	amount of HP and the amount of damage
12506s	and the amount of control it just kind
12507s	of does everything really well uh so
12509s	it's just kind of a really good solid
12511s	Central pick for a lot of cops yeah I
12513s	think it's um I think it's the most um
12515s	picked Flagship this year as well um and
12519s	speaking of flagships I've just been
12520s	told that we're going to have a flagship
12521s	in the next match only fleets are
12523s	Fielding their Flagship bar guest this
12525s	will be our first bar guest that we're
12526s	seeing so far a couple of teams have
12528s	have chosen that personally I think the
12530s	bar is a is a great choice for a
12532s	flagship it can be both armor and shield
12535s	um it's probably the least tanky of most
12537s	of the flagships but it has so much
12539s	utility and and and different things you
12541s	can do with it like we say if you have a
12543s	flag Bal Gorn you pretty much only bring
12545s	it with an armor comp no one in their
12547s	right mind is going to bring a shield
12548s	Bal Gorn don't do it it might be one of
12551s	those things you can make it work in
12552s	pipa please don't all right um but the
12554s	baras can be fit into both of these yep
12556s	yeah yeah that's correct I think
12558s	especially with the new band setup where
12560s	you get four bands each and you're able
12562s	to react to the initial bands I think
12565s	it's a lot harder to bring some of these
12566s	like typ casted um flagships like the
12569s	Armageddon Navia sh the B gor because
12571s	it's easy to remove the support Wing
12573s	from out underneath them whereas the
12574s	bugas like you said slap some plates on
12576s	it slap some reps on it slap some seral
12578s	boosters on it it's fine it does it does
12579s	the same job it's good nice some might
12582s	even say it slaps nice it does it slaps
12585s	all right let's head over to the arena
12586s	for all only fleets versus postp Clarity
12588s	in this match of L
12591s	20 good day there mates welcome back to
12593s	the arena with only fleets versus postp
12595s	Clarity I'm of course joined by mod and
12596s	it feels like Groundhog Day cuz Melinda
12598s	is in a new team but it's still flying a
12600s	flag bark you know Melinda does as
12603s	Melinda does and you know Melinda's
12604s	going to be in that flag barus looking
12606s	to project excellent damage across the
12608s	arena onto this you know missile sorry
12611s	not missile medium gun mirror excuse me
12613s	thinking missiles because that bar guest
12615s	is going to want to do that Pro ction so
12617s	keys to Victory um that crucifier has
12620s	got to be you know doing really good um
12622s	you know disruption trying to mitigate
12624s	the incoming damage because flag barest
12626s	rather unique with how much damage they
12628s	do exactly that as well yeah I said the
12629s	crucifiers probably got at least one GD
12631s	on there right as well as a bunch of
12632s	tracker sh so they're going to see a lot
12634s	of damage going on that crucifier if he
12635s	can survive is going to do a lot of hurt
12638s	potentially to this opposing team but
12639s	the match is about to go underway in
12640s	about 5
12642s	seconds so I love seeing a Bello show up
12645s	again you see them on occasion they're
12646s	always really good in these sort of comp
12648s	free Tain more damage yeah I mean Bose
12651s	um we see a lot of um you know vigil we
12653s	see a lot of hyena but a bellicose um is
12656s	it going to have it's going to have a
12657s	little bit more survivability they're
12659s	relatively quick being a minmatar
12660s	cruiser but already we see that the zarm
12663s	has you know PTSD is prepping the
12665s	crucifier who we did see have initial
12667s	missile guidance disruption onto the
12669s	barest but uh the barest it looks like
12672s	um you know that team both of them are
12674s	actually going towards their respective
12675s	micro jump Drive Beacon so uh looking to
12678s	do a bit of uh positional play makes a
12680s	lot of sense to me neither team is going
12682s	to want to immediately close into the
12684s	other one both wants the right moment to
12686s	go in and one team because you know
12687s	they've got a good comp and they need to
12689s	know at the right time the other team
12690s	because they would got the right comp
12691s	and they've got a buger so they want to
12692s	find the right moment but look at the B
12694s	been slowly being like whittel down a
12696s	little bit here yeah there'll be just
12697s	some chip damage from kind of the bar
12699s	guest who is lobbing some uh missiles at
12701s	range presumably or maybe some starts at
12703s	at long distance so um you it's not that
12706s	impactful when you have a little bit of
12708s	Shield damage right now it's just more
12709s	one of those like indicators like what
12710s	are they potentially going to go for you
12712s	know it's like where's their thought
12713s	process at for what they want to kill um
12715s	does telegraph a little bit but right
12717s	now both teams are both just kind of
12719s	chilling on the beacon not really doing
12722s	anything just yet but we see aalia on
12726s	the side of um excuse me of uh only
12730s	fleets being a little bit slow to uh
12732s	catch up to you know that Beacon um the
12737s	teams are just kind of kind of figure
12738s	out okay what do we want to do now no
12740s	one's being very committal and now the
12741s	blue team is spooling and they jumped
12744s	look at the Bell another micro jump
12746s	drive B look at the Bell Co I think the
12748s	Bell Co might have just made a big
12750s	mistake oh my God the Bell Co ke must
12752s	have double clicked or gone away and
12754s	he's going to get absolutely picked here
12756s	either that or this wasow getting back
12757s	he's getting back he's going to get back
12759s	to his team never mind that's the fal
12760s	alarm either that or it was five head
12762s	bit and he was able to chip some damage
12764s	off of a baras make it dump a little bit
12766s	more clip force a Reload cuz of course
12768s	it is rapid heavy so yeah they might be
12770s	trying to force him just fire a few
12771s	missiles and then try and go in but hey
12772s	he survived he's pulling the drones back
12774s	to him so maybe kill a few drones that
12776s	was a a bit of a heart stopping moment
12778s	yeah but I mean we see um around like 20
12781s	25 um vyes across the arena get on top
12784s	of that Bell Co trying to do damage and
12785s	then some medium uh rep Bots one of the
12787s	you know benefits of being in these kind
12789s	of AAR comp you have a pretty large
12791s	drone Bay you can throw out some pretty
12793s	effective versatile one you don't need
12795s	to do damage you don't need to do do you
12796s	get a option to go what do I think this
12798s	comp needs and it's one of the comps I
12799s	love for that particular reason okay and
12801s	now the jump drives have gone off again
12802s	battle has been look right on zero look
12804s	at that look at that right on him okay
12807s	and the barg is actually in a relatively
12809s	good place you want to be able to use um
12811s	in you know an armor you want to use
12812s	those faction officer scrams um to
12815s	really keep things away from you
12817s	Vigilant hard tackled as well Vigilant
12818s	the first thing he went for which is
12819s	fair lightest tank best damage hopefully
12822s	easiest kill but the barus has a
12824s	scramming web on top of him but also at
12825s	the same time we have a scram on top of
12827s	the zarm so it's going to be a quick
12828s	race here you want to kill the zarm
12830s	probably if you're on the side of only
12831s	fleets um you know really get rid of any
12834s	sort of um Logistics and then pick apart
12837s	the kind of the low end but also I'm
12838s	scared if I have my bar guest uh getting
12841s	held down like that exactly that your B
12843s	is being held down meanwhile the other
12844s	side the Z is held down which they are
12846s	probably also just as scared both these
12848s	kind of like the Lynch pin ships with
12849s	the comps and both of them are sitting
12850s	there woring Pon effects just getting
12852s	casually deleted didn't really exist it
12854s	got removed yeah I mean that's going to
12856s	be lyns off the grid that is somewhat
12859s	important um you know a little bit later
12861s	exactly you're going to have a start and
12862s	a Navy Bruto for lyns but it's still
12864s	something Bello getting primary again
12866s	and this time that looks like no no he
12868s	is probably going to tank again cuz
12870s	here's the thing they can probably
12871s	spread damage here they've got a lot of
12872s	damage ships but they're all targeting
12873s	one ship which is perfect for the Z the
12875s	Z is loving this but meanwhile the
12876s	vigilance is getting rather low so I if
12879s	I trade a Vigilant and a Pon effect for
12882s	a bellicose that's not very good the
12883s	Vigilant is dropping down um pretty low
12887s	and postp pod Clarity I mean this is a
12889s	power of his arm really on showcase is
12892s	yeah you keep spooling you build up
12893s	those resistance and now you're doing I
12895s	think the Absolut right call you get the
12898s	web on top of the Thalia you're not
12899s	going to fully focus on top of the
12901s	barast you're going to try to work on
12903s	that support core and then only then
12905s	when you've secured the victory on the
12907s	low side of things you work way up on
12910s	bar and here's the thing they need to
12913s	refocus B is fully harmed go somewhere
12915s	else this is the problem with his arm
12916s	you need to kill things fast or it will
12918s	make your your day worse and if they
12920s	start spraying damage problem solved but
12922s	looks like they're starting to lose out
12924s	the th is about to go down at that point
12926s	it's just going to start to really just
12927s	snowball too far for them to catch up
12930s	yeah and mean this Thalia he looks like
12932s	he might be outrunning the Deacon a
12934s	little bit um it's hard to see but like
12936s	yeah the Thalia is just running and it's
12939s	like Benny Hill is there's an entire
12940s	flight of like small armor um buts and
12944s	you know damage ons are trying to keep
12945s	up and that do is going to drop here
12947s	yeah it's a bunch of valks and
12948s	infiltrator chasing him down to be fair
12950s	he actually got out of range of some of
12951s	them so maybe it's possible he might
12953s	have broken some drone control breaking
12955s	coming back with a little bit of armor
12957s	but the zarm now taking a decent amount
12960s	of damage we see that the scram is on
12961s	top of it but it's propping around 700
12965s	um kilm which tells me that's an after
12967s	burning armarm and scrams don't shut off
12970s	after burners but you notice they're
12971s	going for the
12973s	bug and look how quickly it's going down
12975s	wait what
12976s	hold on what that's the part problem
12978s	with an armor barast is if they get held
12981s	down and they get applied to they
12983s	doesn't have a lot of low slots for tank
12984s	it has a lot of mids slots this seems so
12986s	familiar this is Grand Hog Day M lost a
12988s	flag bug before watch I commentated that
12991s	one this is happening again this is this
12993s	is a curse Melinda's going to
12994s	potentially there another flag Bargas
12996s	yeah and I mean that barast is I mean
12998s	it's having those X-Type reps you can
12999s	see doing its level best to keep it up
13001s	but it's lost AIA the Deacon is webbed I
13004s	think away from it he's got nothing to
13006s	keep himself up now's trying best look
13008s	he's repping his absolutely hard out 4%
13010s	There He Go he will go down so postp pod
13012s	Clarity secures the loot presumably
13015s	hopefully someone else will probably try
13016s	to race for that bargus but I mean
13018s	they're solidly in the driver seat
13020s	they're going to win the match at this
13021s	point that is a goodbye good night I
13023s	feel like again this is this is a weird
13025s	world where I'm watching Melinda lose
13027s	multiple flag bus and I feel like I need
13029s	to start questioning my life choices but
13031s	um looks like post pod now this is going
13034s	to be almost a clean sweep potentially
13036s	it might get a full 200 to zero here
13038s	just well played seriously honestly very
13040s	well played and the issue that postp pod
13043s	Clarity really didn't have to deal with
13046s	is that yeah they got their zarm had
13048s	scram but that was an after burning zarm
13050s	and it was almost bite wasn't it like
13051s	scram me please we see the Deacon goes
13053s	down but you really needed to web that
13055s	to be able to apply full damage even
13057s	with heavy missiles and some of these um
13060s	these ships rail guns yeah with rail
13061s	guns you know with those um long range
13063s	beams so you know fenri a chain breaker
13066s	in the crucifier I mean we talk about
13068s	these 14 these eighto disruption frigs
13070s	you know doing work against you know
13072s	much more expensive 30 you know 36 point
13074s	ships or even a 54 point barest you know
13077s	even people in smaller ships newer
13078s	players can have that effect in new Eden
13080s	it always can like one crucify one guy
13082s	stopped a sudden your ship becomes kind
13083s	of useless it's it's one of those joys
13085s	of the at Alliance Tournament being
13086s	Braves Infamous for it that one Griffin
13088s	just saving the world you know but you
13091s	know here a crucifier might have
13093s	potentially ruined a baras day and it
13094s	was a very shiny very EXP expensive
13096s	wonder how many Cru you can get for that
13098s	um a lot the entirety of the Brave JoJo
13102s	is probably not as expensive as that
13104s	Bargas kill mail will be but uh you know
13107s	now it's pretty much just clean up here
13108s	postp pod Clarity um you know trying to
13112s	see if they can kill anyone that might
13114s	have scooped any of the loot if they
13115s	didn't get it themselves so that's the
13117s	game they're trying to play right now
13119s	might be the game the old game of loot
13120s	whacka all someone blows up someone goes
13121s	to steal it next person blows up goes to
13123s	steal it but yeah this NE is going down
13125s	honestly ly the start of this match
13126s	looked like it was pretty even both
13127s	teams playing smart slow careful and
13129s	controlled but the moment the fight
13131s	started fleets kind of fell apart a
13133s	little bit and postp pod just managed to
13135s	pick it up and just run with it yeah
13137s	exactly and I mean we see that these
13139s	teams and both of these teams are pretty
13141s	good I mean you want to play that kind
13143s	of initial positional game it's not
13145s	super exciting for our viewers at home I
13147s	realize but it's what you have to do
13149s	when you know you're really facing you
13152s	know hey we're dealing with a flag bar
13154s	guest what does that mean it's going to
13155s	scr us really far away so we have to be
13157s	very careful positionally or we're going
13158s	to be in trouble not get caught in the
13160s	wrong spot exactly like that you said
13162s	it's a very dangerous ship you want to
13163s	say get in when it's the right time and
13165s	not before started going down now too
13167s	goodbye to him so something you know
13169s	interesting of course for our viewers is
13171s	that we are in the middle of the blood
13172s	Harvest which means that the drop rate
13174s	the loot fairy has been extra generous
13177s	no longer half of the time does The Loot
13179s	drop it's now 90% of the time and that
13181s	applies to not just you know Tranquility
13184s	you know in these Fleet fights but it
13185s	also applies to the alliance tournament
13186s	as well oh mate the lot faery is just is
13189s	giving us all the stuff we want here
13190s	that's going to be great that's post
13191s	pod's going to be like loving this
13193s	they've got the stuff of course you know
13194s	it could be one of those moments where
13195s	someone else stole the loot but yeah
13198s	final freak's going down mate and I mean
13199s	this is an opportunity right where you
13201s	can get you know maybe a better officer
13203s	micro warp drive maybe you can get a
13205s	better officer trading up man trading up
13207s	I mean how many times in the past have
13209s	we seen where a team with a you know Bal
13212s	Gorn that has you know an okay but maybe
13215s	not the best off
13216s	they kill like tuskers I think did this
13218s	they kill pandemic Legion they upgraded
13219s	their web they used it later I swear
13222s	there was one time one team did it twice
13224s	but I can't find when if someone knows
13225s	please let us know but yeah I remember
13227s	one team doing that but there we go
13228s	match is over well done the post pod and
13230s	let's go have a break and then see what
13231s	the studio thinks met that
13233s	one Clarity there with the flagship kill
13237s	uh Fs in chat please for Melinda one and
13240s	his Flagship barast F in chat uh because
13244s	that thing was expensive and it's very
13246s	dead and um I hope you guys managed to
13249s	get get the loot cuz 90% Loot drop and
13251s	lots of the good stuff did in fact drop
13253s	uh just looking at it here is Officer
13255s	rapid heavy missile launchers of course
13257s	five of the six of them dropped so
13258s	that's a cheeky 11 bill right there and
13261s	then all of the like fancy uh scram
13263s	dropped that's four and a bit Bill the
13265s	cormax sensor booster seven bill that
13268s	dropped uh only thing that didn't drop
13270s	was the the expensive damage control
13272s	another 11 bill that went puff uh into
13275s	Oblivion
13276s	uh mystical might what went wrong uh
13279s	this is a experienced team I mean a lot
13280s	of a lot of twitch Channel points were
13282s	reallocated to the to the masses there
13284s	most of you going for only fleets 1.5
13286s	million Channel points uh you can
13288s	actually in chat you can uh at CCP
13291s	arcade exclamation mark refund and he
13293s	will give you your points back um so Mr
13296s	what happened in that match there uh
13298s	well we found out that the B guest does
13299s	not in fact slap um it got slapped in
13302s	fact um yeah it was a very very rough
13305s	match
13306s	there was a very interesting mjd play
13308s	that came out from the postp Pod Clarity
13310s	side um where they mjd onto a secondary
13314s	Beacon and then down into the only
13316s	fleets team the problem is a bellicose
13320s	decided that he was going to go his own
13322s	way um out into the middle of the Arena
13324s	um I think the collective response from
13326s	the desk team was oh no over and over
13330s	again as as we saw the direction that
13333s	the V coas was going and then um Fleet
13336s	one up him by just not shooting um I
13338s	believe the attack bar on the only Fleet
13340s	side had the tiniest tinge of red for
13343s	half the match I'm not entirely sure
13345s	what they were going for I mentioned
13346s	that they may be trying to reserve the
13348s	bar guest clip because it takes a while
13349s	for the heavy missiles to reload when
13351s	you're using rapid Heavies um but that
13353s	doesn't stop you from using your medium
13355s	guns on the rest of your ships so I have
13359s	no clue what they were doing um they
13360s	fully committed to the bellicose towards
13362s	the end and just decided I guess um when
13364s	they saw that it wasn't breaking that
13366s	they were going to run the barest away
13367s	and uh it that didn't work either yeah
13369s	there was a lovely camera shot um when I
13370s	think uh only fleets realized that it
13373s	wasn't going to go their way and the
13374s	baras is just flying away from the rest
13376s	of his team like see you later I'm going
13377s	to go try and hide somewhere and survive
13379s	for the next six minutes uh that did not
13381s	did not happen he didn't in fact die
13383s	someone has pointed out that the ponteix
13385s	may not have plugged in a mine link but
13387s	it's also possible that they were
13388s	carrying two mine links one for Skirmish
13390s	one for armor depending on what links
13392s	they had fit so yeah there's some there
13394s	some top gamer plays but doing things
13395s	like that like you can pull out the
13397s	implants and stuff um before the match
13399s	now one of the other things that was
13400s	asked in chat actually it's good point
13402s	um was can you refit your or mess with
13404s	your bar Flagship fit between rounds
13406s	absolutely you can uh the number of
13409s	times in the alliance tournament where
13411s	uh Team a wins a match by killing team
13413s	B's Flagship and they scoop the loot and
13416s	that stuff is better than theirs so they
13417s	just upgrade their Flagship so you kind
13419s	of like build a better Flagship as the
13420s	tournament goes on and not only can you
13422s	do that you can change it however you
13423s	want uh in general so for example we
13425s	talked about it before you don't have to
13427s	have two Flagship bar guests that are
13430s	fit differently you can just refit one
13432s	so you can have an armor one and a
13433s	shield one if you just have all the fits
13435s	ready and waiting you decide which one
13436s	you want to use and you fit it I just
13438s	have to pull off a couple of rigs but I
13440s	mean who who cares about rigs this be
13442s	Aurora is there anything else you think
13444s	that um only fleets could have maybe
13446s	done in that match uh shoot the enemy
13448s	would have been good um it it looks like
13451s	they it looks like they kind of gave up
13453s	early and I'm not sure exactly what they
13456s	were hoping to do exactly if they
13458s	misplayed postp pod Clarity did the
13460s	right thing mostly we were worried about
13462s	that Bell Co when we saw but it actually
13464s	lived to the end of the match um they
13467s	managed to use the micro jump drive
13468s	beacons at the start of the match landed
13470s	right on top of the other Fleet that's
13472s	kind of where they wanted to be because
13473s	those rails they can load their close
13475s	range ammo and shoot back whereas the
13477s	baras doesn't really care about its
13478s	range it actually doesn't want to be
13479s	that close to the enemy team um they
13483s	lost their pontif effects really early
13484s	they weren't able to to keep that up
13486s	which is the right call from postp pod
13487s	Clarity which means that uh after a
13489s	minute those uh those Buffs fall off and
13492s	all of their ships are like 50% weaker
13494s	than they were before um and then they
13496s	just got shredded after that so uh I
13499s	think they basically misplayed in the
13501s	first few moments of the match in terms
13503s	of trying to find the right positioning
13505s	they let the other team get right on top
13507s	of them didn't control the field and
13509s	they lost game yep and of course all
13511s	thanks to that Chad Bellos gamer uh we
13513s	thought it was a mistake jumping there
13515s	turns out that was the plan all along
13517s	all right let's look at the next match
13520s	uh which is uh going to be barcode
13525s	versus go swarm Federation uh I don't
13527s	see the bands just yet I believe they
13529s	are coming and we actually before we do
13531s	that I see we have an infographic uh for
13533s	the uh the flagship let's show that
13535s	let's throw up the flagship infographic
13538s	um which comes courtesy of squiz and
13541s	zkillboard.com um I think I can't tell
13545s	we're showing it I'm just going to
13546s	assume that we are um enjoy uh all right
13550s	moving on uh and let's look back at um
13553s	uh barcode versus gwor Federation I
13555s	don't have the bands just yet uh when I
13557s	do I will let you know what they are
13558s	this is always an interesting one for me
13560s	uh gonss um very successful Alliance in
13563s	history of E online done a lot of things
13565s	currently moving um historically pretty
13569s	terrible at Alliance tournament um
13571s	there's really not any any really good
13574s	moments they've had I mean they brought
13575s	the t on that was pretty fun uh but they
13577s	usually then go on to lose moment yeah
13579s	so they're they're most known for
13581s	legitimately a kind of a meme in
13583s	Alliance tournament I always want them
13585s	to win though I think it'd be great to
13587s	see goons finally having some success in
13590s	Alliance tournament like proper success
13592s	uh one of the memes of course is they
13594s	they were so annoyed at their unsuccess
13595s	at Alliance tournament they made their
13596s	own tournament um but they're com up
13599s	against barcode and barcode is an
13601s	extremely competent team Mr Gite your
13603s	thoughts I think twitch should go all in
13606s	on goons look the returns are going to
13608s	be incredible okay put all your points
13612s	on goons right now
13615s	okay should I check the SC okay for
13617s	anyone who's also already put that okay
13619s	now put your put your points on barcode
13621s	um barcode is definitely in my opinion
13624s	going to win this match but anything is
13625s	possible right I think barcode came
13627s	third yes te yeah last year so they've
13631s	already shown that they can kind of
13632s	reach those upper levels they have very
13634s	talented players have a lot of
13636s	experience one of the questions that
13638s	always comes to mind when we're
13639s	discussing teams like this maybe not
13640s	barcode so much because they have
13642s	performed well but teams that are
13644s	usually made up of very good like
13647s	individual solo small gang players
13649s	sometimes it doesn't translate well to
13650s	the tournament and you have to kind of
13651s	find your footing there because it's a
13653s	completely different play style it
13654s	relies on different types of
13656s	communication you have to play
13657s	differently there's less agency in some
13660s	things and more agency in others and you
13662s	need to communicate that properly
13663s	barcode I think has found a great way to
13666s	make that work um which saw them reached
13668s	third place last year so I think it'll
13671s	be interesting to see if they've
13673s	developed any new strategies or tactics
13675s	in this upcoming match but then
13676s	goonswarm also has I believe dark and
13679s	they have some good Pilots like and good
13681s	the Crafters people know tournaments
13683s	yeah darkk I believe helps um run the
13685s	Anor games right so he has experience
13688s	running tournaments he has a
13690s	understanding of like what the Mets look
13691s	like I just remember something gos do
13693s	have something their first end they have
13694s	the record for the boundary violations
13697s	they have the furthest ever boundary
13698s	violation I just remembered that it's
13700s	like 234 colum I think Aur argant um
13703s	managed to bend physics of space time
13706s	and get that far out of the Arena so
13707s	well done good you number one at
13709s	something um all right let's take a
13711s	quick look at the bands before we go to
13712s	the match barcode Banning out arbitrator
13714s	curse Sentinel crucifier so all the
13716s	tracking disruption off um and uh gwor
13720s	bing out Abad armagedon Navy issue Loki
13722s	and Deacon so interesting sets of band
13724s	most focus on tracking and guidance
13726s	disruption and then just some normal
13728s	standard ones Deacon one I think is
13729s	quite clever all right let's head over
13731s	to the arena for good swarm Federation
13732s	versus
13738s	barot hello ladies and gentlemen I was a
13741s	very nervous moderator but now I am a
13744s	very happy moderator seeing that my good
13747s	uh friends and uh teammates in barcode
13749s	are in a medium uh gun spam composition
13752s	against a heavy assault missile Rush
13755s	yeah very uh eclectic heavy missile
13758s	heavy missile Rush some curious things
13760s	about this comper Force goons banned out
13762s	Loki and then brought heavy missile Rush
13766s	usually requires a ly they no no we can
13767s	do it with an onyx it's fine it's fine
13768s	don't worry about it we got this guys
13769s	this is our plan so what do you think
13771s	for barcode what's the win condition at
13773s	the start the win condition for barcode
13775s	is literally just do not get caught and
13777s	that won't be too too difficult really
13778s	the threat that you have is basically
13780s	going to be the jaguar or you know the
13782s	Onyx getting on top of you and catching
13784s	you and the thing about the onyxx is
13788s	it's pretty slow relative to a lot of
13789s	these ships I mean people don't think of
13791s	Omens as being like a heavy armor ship
13794s	it's more of a fast like screener the m
13796s	is even you think is a thick Bo and and
13798s	you notice that this uh barcode setup is
13800s	very very similar to the one that we saw
13802s	truth honor light bring so yes the
13803s	Jaguar is going to rush they're going to
13804s	get tackle on this Harbinger but the
13806s	Squall is the immediate primary then the
13808s	Jaguar is being held uh down it's
13811s	probably going to be uh you know the
13813s	next immediate primary we see Target
13814s	paints on top of the jaguar and he
13817s	should go down really quick this is like
13819s	these are all medium guns they can apply
13820s	reasonably well to him he is low Sig but
13823s	it you know enough shots will get
13824s	through yeah this assault damage control
13826s	is about to fall off in a second and now
13828s	that it does grunt ataro does drop the
13831s	harbinger no longer tackled by that but
13833s	is being held down by the Onyx was able
13836s	to catch up eventually and now the burst
13837s	Bantam are the targets these are going
13839s	to get cycled through instantly and were
13842s	they there are you sure do do we see the
13843s	ships uh not not anymore not for the
13846s	Bantam the burst is likely to follow
13848s	shortly but uh it looks like they may
13850s	have changed their priority a little bit
13852s	to the Navy Drake and to the alligator
13855s	um initial stram on the alligator and
13858s	the Navy Drake uh so the Onyx did
13861s	eventually catch the harbinger they get
13862s	did get tackle on that and these ens are
13864s	doing a very good job of screening the
13865s	front line of goonswarm federation and
13868s	you just kind of sacrifice these you
13870s	know Cruisers that are relatively free
13872s	so that you're more expensive you know
13874s	ship with you know more damage and the
13876s	lengths in the bruix and the Absolution
13878s	can live to win fact they brought four
13880s	of them too like four MO two mullers two
13882s	Omens it's like a lot of like we've got
13883s	some really good cheap T1 amarian
13885s	Cruisers we can project we can suicide
13888s	we can do whatever we need to do to make
13889s	this comp function and it's it's done
13890s	very very well I'm quite happy with it
13892s	also kind of a nicely perfect result
13894s	because you brought a lot of lasers
13896s	you're versing all Shield you're having
13898s	a good time yeah I mean for the most
13900s	part I mean you're very happy to be
13901s	shooting em and thermal into essentially
13905s	most of these calari ships of course you
13907s	don't want to shoot you know em thermal
13909s	into like a claymore or to a Jaguar
13912s	which is probably why they're not
13913s	shooting the Claymore you had to shoot
13914s	the Jaguar early forced to yeah no
13916s	matter how much you didn't want to it's
13917s	like that one's got to go first exactly
13919s	that alligator being absolutely deleted
13921s	they got rid of an omen so you know they
13923s	they're not getting entirely wiped wiped
13925s	out they are fighting back a bit but
13927s	Omen going down there still another one
13928s	left still two more moles have to get in
13929s	the way yeah and I mean the reason You'
13931s	take the alligator right is it's got
13932s	those medium uh bonus Dron said very
13935s	effective it's basically you can think
13937s	of it as a giant um you know hila that
13939s	was relatively uh introduced relatively
13943s	recently introduced and now the Onyx
13945s	fell apart rather shortly and then the
13946s	orthis um you know just taking apart
13949s	these targets of opportunity look at
13951s	kind of you know a wide pan view of
13954s	these barcode ships they're just kind of
13956s	all spread around in a ball very much
13960s	making it difficult for goons swarm or
13962s	any of these heavy assault you know
13965s	rushes to get on top of one ship exactly
13967s	and that's the thing that you want to do
13969s	when you're in sort of these kite comps
13970s	you want to make sure okay yes if you
13972s	rush us you can get on top of one of us
13975s	but then the other nine of us are going
13976s	to be you know very far and meanwhile
13978s	barcode can keep shooting goons have to
13980s	jump from one to one and it's difficult
13982s	to play that exactly we've heard a few
13984s	times people saying like oh how do you
13985s	how do you beat rush like just move away
13986s	L it's like yeah just move away scatter
13989s	we saw I think it was a snuff in the
13991s	peders did that very well they managed
13993s	like fully stab it every direction which
13994s	is like yeah you can rush me all you
13996s	want M you're only going to get one ship
13998s	you're not going to get through the rest
13999s	of us and yeah they're down to the
14000s	Nighthawk now leave the tank is to last
14002s	they they're very thick yeah I mean
14005s	Nighthawks are an incredibly thick ship
14007s	um especially so when they're being
14009s	supported by Lodi frigs but thankfully
14011s	those are gone so um I saw Ali RS was a
14015s	little bit here she was about ready to
14017s	you know presumptively hand me my L had
14020s	barcode dropped out of the match but
14022s	thankfully they will continue to go on
14024s	and they will face the winner of the
14026s	next match which would be uh pandemic
14029s	horde and uh vasive maneuvering I'm very
14031s	much looking forward to this match goons
14033s	swarm dropping down into the lower
14034s	bracket means that um you know if
14037s	pandemic horde loses we would have a
14039s	goon and pandemic horde lower bracket
14041s	match but yeah that's something for the
14043s	analyst to talk about after we send it
14044s	to the break
14046s	here there you have it GS doing what gs
14049s	do best uh and losing in the L
14051s	tournament um we you know what the all
14055s	right at the start I thought they
14056s	actually I looked at I was like hey who
14057s	they they're killing some stuff and
14058s	barod is a good team like at least they
14060s	didn't get you know clapped uh which is
14062s	nice H but they're not out goods are
14064s	back Goods will be in the the lore
14066s	bracket they have still got a chance to
14068s	win plenty of skins and as it was
14070s	pointed there I bet you those Elite Nano
14072s	gangers wouldn't try that kind of stuff
14073s	in 1 DQ so true you still still the
14075s	kings of there at least well until you
14077s	finish moving Bart what happened oh so
14080s	many things um I so I I said this when
14084s	we were watching the match I think that
14085s	was actually a really good performance
14086s	from goons and they just kind of got
14087s	countered a little bit by a team that
14088s	knows how to counter a rush setup I
14091s	loved the Jaguar pilot um I think his
14093s	name was grunter Grant or something just
14095s	rocketing in like overheated Ram Jagged
14098s	in instantly tackled Harbinger Navy isue
14101s	the rest of goons followed up and killed
14102s	the harbinger Navy ISU so good job um
14105s	the the problem is is that when you go
14107s	up against a pretty experien team they
14110s	land on grin they look at you and
14111s	they're like oh you're bringing a ham
14113s	rush and they immediately Starburst away
14116s	so it's like yes you will kill one ship
14117s	you'll probably kill two ships the rest
14119s	of them Starburst away and then they got
14120s	DPS down and it it is what it is I mean
14123s	like I said goons they flew their comp
14125s	pretty correctly I would say like they
14127s	made the right choice it's like oh crap
14128s	they have a ton of medium guns we can't
14129s	outrange this so they rammed in didn't
14132s	work they get better every time I feel
14134s	they do I think goons have continuously
14135s	improved um I know you said it on the
14137s	desk a little bit ago I also want to see
14140s	goons win some matches uh maybe this is
14142s	the year you know they still have a
14144s	chance they still have a chance I'm just
14146s	saying I'm a good Stan in this like I
14148s	want I want to see some good victories
14150s	some big W's in the column we said this
14152s	about fraternity last year remember we
14154s	we are on team we want The Underdogs to
14156s	win exactly yeah now now fraternity is
14158s	not an underdog so they can lose as much
14159s	they want but he's just trying to say
14160s	face because his team lost they run you
14162s	know it's you and goons are on the same
14164s	you know same tier right now exactly
14166s	yeah true losers bracket yeah losers
14167s	bracket yeah it's alloyed to get more
14170s	skins it's fine it's part of the plan
14172s	excellent yeah no I think I think goons
14174s	did okay like honestly they they flew
14176s	that it was it was a decent comp they
14177s	flew it correctly they got countered
14179s	because the other team was like oh
14180s	you're rushing with the shield rush and
14182s	I've said it for quite a while now if
14183s	you don't know how to beat a shield r
14185s	with your setup in the modern Alliance
14187s	tournament your setup is trash and you
14188s	shouldn't fly it clearly barcode was
14190s	like oh yeah okay well we've practiced
14192s	this we know what to do and goons just
14193s	like ah crap next time they they get
14196s	another game uh in fact I think we find
14197s	out who they'll be playing relatively
14198s	soon yep that's true uh we can take a
14200s	look at the bracket at some point
14201s	because uh some of the uh the teams have
14203s	to play again today because um they went
14205s	for the the odd tactic of dropping
14208s	themselves into the lower bracket for
14209s	quote more skins end quote mytical might
14212s	um Misty could the good team have flown
14214s	that differently and come out with a win
14216s	or do you think it really was like kind
14218s	of a counter just straight out the box I
14221s	I think it's very difficult to execute a
14224s	rush setup against um medium gun spam
14227s	when it can just kind of separate out
14228s	like you said it kind of Starbursts and
14230s	you have to spend 20 30 seconds chasing
14233s	down each individual ship and that time
14234s	you are constantly taking damage I did
14237s	question whether it would have been
14239s	better for the Jagua to tackle the augre
14240s	at the beginning and allow the Onyx to
14242s	get in and then spread a couple hick
14244s	scrams across a couple different ships
14246s	to keep them in place um but I'm not
14248s	entirely sure that clearing the orre at
14250s	the beginning would have allowed them to
14252s	you know go on to chase down and and
14255s	break through some of the other DPS
14256s	ships so I think they could have played
14258s	it better I don't think it would have
14260s	actually LED them to a win without
14262s	barcode um Miss executing the comp right
14265s	like accidentally keeping a couple ships
14267s	together they both get tackled by the
14269s	Onyx and then they both die in quick
14271s	sucession that I think is the only way
14273s	that goons would have been able to come
14274s	back into that match yeah plus it's
14276s	always good um to like Bart says we
14279s	always want to root for The Underdogs um
14282s	and then if we say mean things about you
14284s	and then you go and win you can claim
14286s	that you won out of spite and then we
14287s	feel good cuz we helped you win uh also
14289s	you get great content for adverts uh I
14291s	don't know how many times I've uh made
14293s	cold take that have been turned into ads
14296s	turns out I'm wrong a lot um who would
14298s	have thought it but that's just how it
14301s	is all right we have about 10 minutes
14302s	until our next match which is going to
14303s	be evasive maneuvering versus pandemic
14306s	horde uh horde came through the feeders
14308s	this year uh well let's roll this one
14311s	back everyone came through the feeders
14312s	except four teams uh so the top four
14315s	from last year got direct entries but no
14317s	longer can you just uh come up with some
14320s	Plex and buy your way into the alliance
14321s	tournament as it was before with the
14322s	silent auction uh everything single
14324s	other team for the other 28 slots they
14326s	had to go through the feeders there was
14328s	no such thing as just like hey look how
14329s	much money I have buy your way into the
14331s	allance tournament and then get clapped
14333s	which uh we saw happen in Alli
14335s	tournament 18 a bunch uh I think it was
14337s	a bunch of Rich teams of I won't name
14340s	any names but they'd been around and had
14341s	done successful tournaments before but
14343s	weren't as good anymore and then bought
14345s	their way in and then lost very badly um
14347s	that can't happen anymore you have to
14348s	actually get in on Merit now which I
14350s	think is a great Improvement what do you
14351s	think about that Misty I think it's good
14353s	I think it least some more exciting
14355s	matches the upside is that we also get
14358s	another round of weekends where people
14359s	get to play um and participate in the
14361s	tournament even if they don't make it
14362s	into the main tournament itself um I
14365s	believe there's the opportunity to win
14366s	skins in those feeder matches so you're
14368s	not walking away from it with nothing
14370s	those feeders matches also take place
14373s	on Thunderdome Thunderdome Thunder in
14377s	the Thunderdome in the Thunderdome I was
14378s	going to say Tranquility which is not
14380s	the right answer but it's you know it's
14382s	a test server essentially for tournament
14384s	where you'll be given a Max SP character
14387s	you get to make a ship out of thin air
14390s	um so you're not losing anything either
14392s	apart from your time but hopefully
14393s	you're having fun in in trade so um I I
14396s	think having people play through the
14398s	feeders is an excellent way to give
14401s	newer teams the chance to learn and
14404s	participate while also ensuring that
14406s	teams that have put in that effort um do
14410s	have a basic understanding about like
14411s	what the meta may be that year based on
14413s	the rule sets get a chance to then get
14415s	into the main tournament and have a good
14417s	run or at least a good attempt at a run
14419s	y to get those price ships yeah and um
14421s	you get skins for wins in the feeders as
14424s	well now so it basically cost you almost
14427s	nothing to to participate and if you
14429s	manage to like eek out a win then you're
14430s	going to get uh quite a decent return in
14433s	just skins alone uh I did see a comment
14435s	like a while back asking like how to get
14436s	into tournaments uh that's a great wave
14438s	like you know find find some friends uh
14441s	make a team join the feeders might get
14442s	rolled might not you never know you
14444s	might r someone unexpectedly by bringing
14445s	something kind of cheesy that happens
14447s	the big teams are always kind of a
14449s	little bit extra afraid of the really
14451s	unknown new teams because you can kind
14453s	of predict what an experienced team is
14454s	going to bring like with a fair degree
14457s	of accuracy but some of these like new
14459s	teams who've never done the tournament
14460s	before they just come up with like these
14461s	crazy off thewall cheese comps that 99%
14464s	of the time won't work but that 1% could
14467s	be against you uh and you look kind of
14469s	silly when that happens uh so if you're
14472s	looking to get tournaments try that also
14473s	check out uh the community run
14475s	tournaments um obviously we mentioned
14477s	earlier on but the anger games it's run
14479s	by some of the guys from goonswarm Dirk
14481s	and uh
14482s	sthil uh check that out it's also on
14484s	thunder so you're not losing stuff uh
14486s	and there's usually a couple other sort
14487s	of little tournament things that you
14489s	know float around in the community so
14491s	check it out I was going to say
14492s	something but then I'm not sure if it's
14494s	announced yet yeah I I was thinking
14495s	about it too but I don't think we should
14497s	do that but it was mentioned in Vegas so
14501s	I feel like it could be said I I could
14504s	possibly
14505s	say interesting let's just say there may
14508s	be a cup for captains next year who
14510s	knows who knows who knows who knows all
14512s	right we have evasive maneuvering vers a
14515s	pandemic horde let's talk about that
14517s	okay so evasive maneuvering they are
14519s	going to ban out the Armageddon Navy
14520s	issue the Loki the carries and the curse
14524s	meanwhile pandemic horde Banning out the
14525s	prophecy Navy issue the EOS the
14527s	arbitrator and then the harbinger Navy
14529s	issue interesting sets of bands uh
14532s	blackb pirate what do you think yeah uh
14534s	I it definitely is I I think that um the
14537s	pandemic hord bands are a lot more
14539s	exciting I think because they've gotten
14541s	rid of some of these ships that nobody's
14544s	really banned them out yet like we
14545s	haven't seen the uh these Navy battle
14546s	cruiser bans we saw I think we saw pery
14548s	Navy once so far today um but that's
14550s	very much a like they' they've gotten
14552s	rid of almost the entire like main DPS
14555s	ships of a medium gun armor setup uh
14558s	which is interesting um we've seen it
14559s	perform extremely well today so far so
14562s	you know that makes sense but it's kind
14564s	of weird that that's the thing that they
14565s	decided they don't want to deal with
14567s	obviously you know EOS bands very very
14568s	good any any armor setup Banning an EOS
14571s	is just like good choice extremely tanky
14573s	good DPS brings amazing links uh yeah I
14577s	I hate mollus bands is that a Moll
14579s	that's that's a m carries that's even
14581s	worse I hate carries bands I hate car
14583s	because like that's even worse than
14584s	amales bands because carries are a ton
14586s	of points that is true Aus that leads to
14589s	like you can kind of Be Like H okay
14590s	maybe we'll we got like six or seven
14591s	points okay yeah bring a but like
14593s	carries it's like the thing that makes a
14594s	carries good in Tranquility on small
14597s	ganging is that it has a really really
14600s	long Point range points are pointless in
14602s	the at so if you didn't know there's a
14604s	big old bubble that means that if you
14605s	leave you know 125 kmers your ship gets
14607s	blown up scrams are great prevents
14609s	people from running away points is just
14611s	kind of like I mean what do they they
14612s	can't warp off anyways right so I I hate
14614s	car's bands um I think it's a wasted ban
14617s	I like the pandemic cord bands uh it's
14620s	different they're thinking differently
14621s	they're getting rid of probably one of
14622s	the better comps if of maneuvering it's
14625s	kind of weird but also they're I mean
14627s	they're they're a team like they're like
14629s	a good team uh I don't think we talked
14632s	about who they are exactly but they're a
14634s	very experienced team so if they're
14636s	doing something weird they have you know
14638s	the brain is working in some way it
14640s	might be in a different direction than
14641s	our brains usually work but it's
14642s	definitely like oh they have a plan yeah
14645s	sometimes you see weird bands coming
14646s	from teams especially if they have like
14648s	exclusive practice partners because they
14650s	get themselves into this um like mindset
14653s	when they're scrimming against each
14654s	other that they think X is really
14656s	powerful and Y is not and there
14658s	something that they really don't like to
14659s	see so they start Banning out things
14661s	that that normally happens in their in
14662s	their scrims and then they turn up and
14664s	just get like either it works
14665s	coincidentally or they get stomped
14667s	because they were just a complete wrong
14669s	post code uh Misty what's it like when
14671s	you're like trying to practice and think
14673s	about like Banning strategy and and not
14675s	getting yourself into these like weird
14676s	little pits of uncertainty I think
14679s	different teams will have different
14680s	practice strategies um I think it's been
14683s	me mentioned a couple times where you
14686s	want to have at least a a baseline
14688s	competence for the comp where you know
14689s	that it can beat some cookie cutter
14691s	stuff right if it can't beat some of the
14693s	very basic things that people will bring
14695s	like some of the medium gun spam or some
14697s	handam rush if you execute it properly
14700s	then there's no real Point practicing
14702s	that comp because it's not likely to do
14705s	well in the tournament um you know
14708s	sometimes there will be comps where you
14709s	can't win but you can ban out enough of
14711s	the comp that it's unlikely that you'll
14713s	see it in that Incarnation at least um
14715s	but there are so many there's such a
14717s	variety of ships in evil line that it's
14718s	easy to sometimes replace some of these
14720s	the ships like the Nighthawk you can
14722s	kind of bring the alligator a little bit
14723s	doesn't quite do as much damage it does
14725s	have that dependence on drone damage as
14727s	well but it's the same points and it
14728s	fills the same role so there are ways
14731s	around some bands not ideal ways right
14735s	but there's some some ways around it so
14737s	yeah I think you establish a basic
14740s	competency for the comp you know that it
14742s	can beat the basic cookie cutter stuff
14744s	you run it until you are comfortable
14746s	running it right so if you land on grid
14748s	and you see it you'll be like hey we
14749s	know how to do this this is fine we'll
14751s	just burn away to the beacons or we'll
14752s	burn around the arena or we're rushing
14754s	we call this first that's where you want
14756s	to be and then you can start practicing
14758s	okay um here's what we think the meta
14760s	will be this year based on the rule set
14763s	um here's how we think it will work and
14764s	develop and then the important thing is
14766s	practicing midweek so the first weekend
14768s	is when you start seeing the the better
14770s	of the other teams come out and
14772s	sometimes you'll be you be like oh the
14774s	hell is that right and it works it's I
14777s	know it's incredible right she to be so
14779s	convinced yeah you'll be like wow what
14781s	is this we've never seen this before uh
14783s	we need to practice against it to know
14784s	how to beat it and sometimes you'll run
14786s	it once and you'll be like oh this is
14787s	super easy um I don't know how this
14789s	other team lost against this matchup and
14791s	sometimes you run and you be like none
14793s	of our comps work against it maybe we
14795s	just start running this and then you
14796s	practice it into all the other comps
14798s	that you have and also the other
14799s	baselines to understand how well it
14801s	works right so not only are you
14803s	practicing it that you can fly it but
14804s	you're practicing it so that you know
14806s	how to beat it using different setups
14807s	and where its weaknesses are um
14810s	basically lot of work right to to go to
14813s	that level you can take it pretty chill
14816s	and just Ram right
14819s	just1 yeah yeah and it works right like
14822s	sometimes most of the time yeah I mean
14824s	80% of the time it works every time it
14826s	is harder it's harder to execute a comp
14828s	with a lot of moving Parts than it is to
14830s	point at somebody and go approach yep so
14834s	Russians are Russians have their cheese
14836s	moment and Russians can be very
14838s	successful the ham nigh Hawk ham rush
14839s	for example very strong uh it's very
14842s	dpsy and it's very hard to slow it down
14844s	when it's coming at to um so I think
14847s	we're almost ready to go to the match I
14849s	see that horde pandemic horde are
14851s	building their Flagship Vindicator in
14853s	this match uh against barcode no sorry
14856s	not barcode vasive maneuvering we just
14857s	had barcode uh we have these three
14859s	matches coming up before we go into the
14861s	lore bracket and those are going to be
14862s	elimination matches so around we're
14864s	getting close to people being kicked out
14866s	of the tournament for good but until
14868s	then let's go see if evasive maneuvering
14870s	can defeat pandemic
14874s	hord hello and welcome to the arena I'm
14876s	Ali Aris here with uh Starfleet
14879s	commander and we are here watching
14881s	pandemic horde versus evasive
14882s	maneuvering pandemic horde have brought
14884s	an armor brawl setup featuring their
14886s	flag Vindicator can the flag Vindicator
14888s	COD 2 and0 we'll find out today
14890s	Starfleet what have evasive maneuvering
14892s	brought well my boy faffy raffy B
14894s	maneuvering amazing comp they've got we
14896s	got a Nighthawk with Fleet Cyclones and
14898s	the Cyclone ospr a bit of a kiting thing
14900s	for them I think they're going to try
14901s	and stay away from the vindy aren't they
14903s	yeah that Vindicator bad news to any
14905s	ship within 20 km but stay a little bit
14907s	further away and you can just sail away
14910s	and not have to worry about it uh bad
14911s	and big chunky amount of damage coming
14913s	out from the pandemic cord team so if
14915s	they're able to get on top and apply
14916s	that damage will'll be good if evasive
14918s	maneuvering can evade the incoming
14920s	damage then uh they should be in a good
14923s	spot I think is really important for AAS
14925s	ning the the positioning for their for
14927s	their comp they need to not make a
14928s	mistake if they make a mistake get
14929s	catched they're dead
14931s	basically and I also think that well vly
14934s	in The Vindicator Captain they're going
14936s	to have to go straight in or go for a
14938s	jump drive Beacon maybe yeah yeah and uh
14940s	as we can see the uh evasive maneuvering
14942s	team are indeed backing up to start out
14944s	with um pandemic cord are heading in
14948s	they're sort of splitting up most of
14949s	them are heading in a couple of the
14950s	small ships are taking a little bit
14953s	further back those crucifiers looking to
14955s	apply uh disruption potentially but I
14957s	don't see any disruption going out onto
14959s	the evasive maneuvering side not much
14960s	the the primary for Evas moving is the
14962s	nurgle a bit of damage on the crucifier
14965s	bit on the cineol I think they're just
14966s	sort of testing seeing what's going out
14967s	you know what they can get through the
14968s	nurgle is taking some damage vly is in
14970s	The Vindicator going out in front which
14971s	is the correct call get the batt ship
14973s	out there try and lock something down
14975s	but vas maneuvering they're not they're
14977s	not slow they're quick yeah yeah and uh
14980s	beatm Adon in the hyena is evasive
14982s	maneuverings Ace in the hole here beatm
14984s	adon's number one job is making sure
14986s	that viley in The Vindicator does not
14989s	get anywhere close to the rest of the
14990s	team that's his one job basically yeah
14994s	keep keep villy away keep and we can see
14996s	that web going out uh Vil's uh Philly's
14999s	webbed off uh he'll slow down while uh
15002s	beam Mater on just uh kites out of range
15005s	and looks like the damage is going on
15007s	villy right now a bit on feel the nurgle
15009s	is in half armor honestly it's a it must
15011s	be a very frustrating match for like The
15012s	Vindicator pilot just being webbed down
15014s	as soon as you get a bit close you get
15015s	webbed down and webbed off but anything
15017s	that overextends on the phle team will
15018s	get killed as an urle is in structure
15020s	the on is trying to keep him up but
15022s	we'll see if he can hold he should go go
15024s	back to the in get the Reps maybe reset
15026s	and try and regroup but he might go down
15028s	here yeah it's a little bit hard for
15031s	those uh Lodie Cruisers to hold the the
15033s	frigs um especially with the high alpha
15037s	of the longrange weapons so light or
15039s	heavy missiles they'll all apply all at
15040s	once the light missiles from the Jack
15042s	doll they'll all apply in big chunks of
15043s	P meanwhile those onos Reps don't cycle
15046s	as fast as some others yeah well the
15048s	near near reps um cycle at the end of
15050s	the cycle HP comes in at the end so you
15052s	have to take into consideration a delay
15055s	of reps coming onto it as now the damage
15057s	on the cineol which will have quite a
15059s	small um armor tank and he's going
15061s	actually bleed he actually going down
15063s	pretty fast he might actually go down
15064s	here yeah and that fast swap is exactly
15066s	what a vas of maneuvering needs to do in
15068s	order to get some ships off the field uh
15069s	once they get a couple of points on the
15071s	board they can potentially just kite
15073s	this one out
15074s	they don't have to risk anything and
15076s	that's what they're hopefully going to
15078s	try to do uh again pandemic hord very
15081s	dangerous and close evasive maneuvering
15083s	they want to avoid that yeah C goes down
15085s	so they're already heading points to
15086s	this point and also s is one of their
15088s	main tackle ships as well pretty quick
15090s	uh maybe I think he was out position a
15091s	bit went bit too far forward now pord
15094s	under a bit of a pickle now they need to
15095s	commit something to get something they
15097s	need to get something they need to push
15099s	them into a corner or try and lock them
15100s	in because the longer this goes on for
15102s	the worse it is I mean they do have an
15104s	anero so they got reps at range pord so
15107s	they could push out things I think now
15108s	villy is trying to go back in there but
15110s	he's again web by the Hena he's not
15112s	going to get close yeah it's tough
15114s	battleships uh Vindicator is not the
15116s	slowest battleship in the world but it's
15118s	nowhere near as fast as the shield
15120s	Cruisers I can see a couple of the
15122s	pandemic horde team may be trying to
15124s	sort of circle around cut this evasive
15127s	maneuvering team off but so far none of
15130s	those decisive moves that they really
15131s	need there goes the nurgle nurgle down
15133s	it's just one it's just chipping away
15135s	aren't they evasive maneuvering chipping
15136s	away at Port must it's so frustrating
15138s	and the piloting actually from evasive
15140s	maneuvering we should actually say
15142s	really well done they're staying
15143s	together moving around uh making sure
15146s	they're away from everything keeping the
15147s	webs as well morus is now taking damage
15149s	and obviously now the crucifier taking
15151s	damage but I think the mor be the next
15152s	to go out that's a really good point uh
15154s	we've seen a lot of a number of kites in
15156s	the feeders and some of the fight the
15158s	kites that we saw in the feeders you
15159s	would see them make that initial run
15161s	they they back up and then and they
15164s	didn't quite know where to go yet Evas
15166s	maneuvering they know where to go
15167s	they're in the right place V oh we got
15170s	did we just get a boundary violation
15172s	from fafy waffy the
15174s	captain it the boundar is closer than
15177s	you think it creeps up on you it really
15179s	does honestly a huge loss for AAC
15182s	maneuvering their Captain dying to
15184s	boundary massive win for pord obviously
15186s	the Magus is though still going down but
15188s	I mean I think they they can still hang
15190s	on I think of a maneuvering I don't
15191s	think it'll be that much of a problem
15192s	they still got plenty of damage to
15194s	project outwards and I think pord are
15196s	are lacking in the tackle Department
15198s	still 5 minutes and a half left I mean V
15201s	still alive vill still alive and we saw
15203s	it earlier the battle the flag
15206s	Battleship able to clutch out in the
15208s	Rope match uh villy again if uh Vil is
15211s	able to get into the middle of the
15213s	evasive maneuvering team get those webs
15215s	on and start applying The Blasters this
15218s	will start hurting but one by one the
15220s	evasive maneuvering team is doing a very
15222s	good job of taking out the ships that
15224s	could make that happen yeah literally
15225s	it's just like a finding that weak point
15228s	getting one down and going for the next
15229s	one getting one down then try and get
15231s	the next one five minutes remaining Evas
15233s	maneuvering just needs to keep on just
15234s	keep holding on this honestly for
15236s	evasive maneuvering is like a super
15238s	difficult match because you can't make
15239s	really any mistakes as or FY throughout
15241s	the arena but the rest of the team need
15242s	to continue on even with that loss they
15244s	got to just get focused I'm not too sure
15246s	who's doing the target calling on their
15247s	team might been fafy so a new guy needs
15249s	to take over and sort of get everyone
15251s	you know together they got to stay
15252s	together um which can be stressful cuz
15254s	your Osprey when you're kiting you need
15256s	to keep your squad together otherwise if
15258s	you get split up you're going to get
15259s	isolated and get killed yep not to
15261s	mention that once you get split up you
15263s	can't apply your damage anymore cuz
15264s	someone will call a Target and three
15265s	other people say h I'm out of range I'm
15267s	out of range I'm 30 30k away too far
15270s	away from me vill in half armor though
15272s	taking a bit of damage I don't think
15273s	he'll die though the N will definitely
15275s	keep him up um we also fig they're
15277s	having a badon as well I keep forgetting
15278s	that exists uh in this match he has got
15281s	a bit of projection but it's it's not
15283s	going to be much a bit of bit of
15284s	tickling coming into Sky Sky killer but
15286s	I still think if they keep this going I
15289s	think AAS maneuvering is going to be
15290s	good yep yeah one of the things that we
15293s	haven't really seen in this match but we
15295s	can see um I've flown Osprey and some
15298s	kiing comps the Osprey it's a tech one
15300s	logistic ship its cap is not very good
15302s	no and hitting your mwd and repping
15306s	anything is eventually by five minutes
15308s	into the match just like I'm sorry guys
15310s	you've got to be very considerate with
15312s	your cap and making sure that you're you
15314s	know you can move away and stuff but I
15315s	think he should be okay in this match
15317s	there's not much that can really affect
15320s	him at range I think only the abadon and
15322s	even then there he's so slow like and
15325s	you can just see right now you know on
15326s	the screen in front of you the two
15327s	battleships have just right next to each
15328s	other and just going around and trying
15330s	to get something but they've lost all
15332s	their tackle at this point um horde so
15334s	there's really not much they can do I
15336s	think the anything thing is a Ponte and
15338s	he's he's been shot now yeah that the
15340s	the uh evasive maneuvering team has been
15343s	switching back and forth between the
15344s	pony and the vindy Pony and the vindy
15347s	Ponte uh press F to pay respects for
15350s	flip there uh and that is the last fast
15353s	tackle ship on the pandemic hord that
15355s	abadin has been boating around at less
15357s	than 1K a second abad's known for their
15359s	HP not known for their speed he's doing
15362s	his best though that's the main thing I
15363s	think AAS moving should just get go for
15365s	the right now M just goes down I think
15367s	go for the get over and just kill
15369s	everyone I mean good paring from
15371s	maneuvering unlucky fafy waffy
15374s	boundary violating what would have been
15376s	just a clean perfectly executed kising
15379s	comp unfortunately boundary violated oh
15381s	dear um I don't think I I looking at
15384s	this from the get-go I think this was
15385s	just a difficult match for horde I think
15387s	from the from the Geto I think they
15390s	really would have struggled I think they
15392s	just don't have anything really solid to
15393s	lock down anything that's the problem or
15395s	like any long like a Balor would have
15397s	had long range long range webs or
15398s	something but they'd have to change the
15399s	comp they don't really have anything to
15401s	to lock evasive maneuvering down yeah
15403s	exactly and in this typee of situation
15405s	it's really rough uh potentially
15407s	pandemic horde could have gone for a
15409s	beacon tried to make some sort of jump
15410s	in particular like a spread out jump so
15413s	doesn't matter where you are but that's
15414s	the kind of thing you have to do in the
15415s	first minute of this match you kind of
15417s	have to potentially sacrifice a frig for
15420s	villy to get something yeah to to lock
15422s	down a key ship something like you know
15424s	I mean faf's dead but like you know you
15426s	want to get like a battle cruiser down
15427s	and then immediately have him go to
15429s	something else but again it's super
15430s	difficult a jump drive um as we saw in
15432s	the match previously I think well the B
15434s	Co went off on his own by mistake so
15436s	it's there really hard to execute
15438s	properly as a team uh if you practice
15440s	enough you can do it 1 minute and 28
15442s	seconds left I mean AAS moving still
15444s	tickling away on different things they
15446s	really are just whittling down slowly
15448s	aren't they indeed indeed and that's
15449s	what we see with a lot of these kiting
15451s	comps uh game balance being what it is
15454s	you cannot fly quickly away from things
15457s	apply damage at long range and also
15458s	apply lots of damage so most of these
15461s	kiting comps have a little bit smaller
15462s	attack bar and that's what we've seen
15464s	from evasive maneuvering but it's
15465s	consistent you can't get away from it
15468s	and also evasive maneuvering is a really
15469s	season team uh fafy waffy I Pandy Sky
15473s	killer all really Pilots that have
15475s	played a lot of tournaments uh in
15477s	different teams all in the same te with
15479s	the same people but in different
15480s	alliances so this is a lot of dark side
15482s	guys are here so a super season team one
15485s	to watch out for I think as Theos is
15486s	about to go down here and he's going to
15489s	structure he should have been I think
15490s	they could have got him earlier on but
15491s	I'd say
15493s	good good show from vas maneuvering yeah
15495s	and I think you know that as you said
15497s	very good show I think the target
15498s	calling that they did was focused on
15500s	keeping themselves alive minimizing
15502s	their loss conditions of okay what if
15503s	someone gets tackled uh very good job
15506s	staying in it despite the boundary
15507s	violation that can be a little bit we'll
15510s	look okay with that one that's fine no
15512s	but it's it's a good it's a good thing
15514s	no it's a good thing to do to like stay
15516s	in the team like keep kiting don't just
15518s	fall apart because someone made a
15520s	mistake very well done from them I think
15522s	we go five six seconds on the clock and
15524s	a little countdown no I think there were
15527s	some good fights in no no good fights
15528s	late in Yoku but I think well the match
15530s	has end it yeah it is and The Vindicator
15532s	lived there we
15537s	go there you are so evasive maneuvering
15539s	managed to maneuver theel themselves
15542s	into a victory uh but not without a
15544s	little bit of a mistake from Captain
15546s	fafy waffy uh who maneuvered himself out
15548s	of the boundary of the Arena uh thus
15551s	having his ship deleted by the great
15554s	ever deletion finger of CP zealous um
15557s	yeah if you're new to Alliance
15558s	tournament first of all welcome thank
15559s	you for joining us uh the fights take
15561s	place in a bubble about 125 km in all
15564s	directions um if you leave that
15567s	bubble you die it's simple that just
15570s	bang instant instantly um so don't do
15573s	that is my my Pro tip I would say stay
15577s	inside the bubble um fafy waffy a
15579s	extremely experienced uh Captain a lot
15582s	of experience on that team as well uh
15584s	some uh vidra raled former members uh
15587s	from the winning teams so I expect to
15589s	see them go far I honestly think hord
15591s	they did all right at the start like uh
15593s	that was a pretty good showing against a
15594s	really experienced team uh Mr Gite what
15597s	do you make of it it just really is
15599s	unfortunate that horde essentially had
15602s	very limited low end tackle a lot of it
15604s	was committed towards evil frigs um
15606s	which meant that they had no real way of
15609s	catching up to the evasive maneuvering
15611s	team and we saw the evasive maneuvering
15613s	team just running circles around the
15614s	hord team because there was nothing that
15616s	they could do besides push them towards
15618s	the boundary apparently which was a very
15620s	good strategy and they should have
15621s	continued with that but um there was a
15624s	point where the pontif effects managed
15626s	to tackle I think Sky Kor Russian Sky
15629s	Russian killer something like that y
15631s	some combination of all caps by the way
15634s	um and I thought that The Vindicator may
15637s	have been able to get into range to like
15639s	keep that tackle once Theon effect died
15641s	unfortunately not quite in range to do
15642s	so I think the
15645s	hyena was webing down the The Vindicator
15647s	when it started getting close um I think
15649s	that was really hord's only chance to
15651s	get back into the match if they' managed
15652s	to kill that cycl Fleet issue they would
15654s	have been up on points I believe um and
15656s	it seemed like the eneros was doing a
15658s	reasonably good job of keeping people
15659s	alive when they were in a good position
15661s	MH so yeah I think with a couple of
15665s	mistakes from evasive maneuvering horde
15666s	could have won but that's not really the
15668s	position you want to be in in an
15669s	alliance tournament match you want to be
15671s	able to decide hey we're going to win
15672s	because we're going to do this not hey
15674s	hopefully they screw up and we'll get
15675s	flitter you know so yeah tough times
15678s	yeah but I mean I think playing against
15680s	a lot of other teams uh instead of
15683s	evasive maneuvering uh hord might have
15685s	come out with a W in that one um they
15687s	they were able to take advantage of a
15688s	mistake they almost caught the second
15689s	one and got it down uh that would have
15691s	like you say probably flipped it um so
15694s	you know the the score line will show
15695s	one thing but those of you who were
15697s	there will know the opposite um so there
15700s	you have it and at least it wasn't uh
15702s	like you know 200 to to zero or anything
15704s	Cu uh fafy waffy gifted them some points
15706s	which is very nice of them very generous
15708s	of you fafy waffy we appreciate it um
15711s	okay so shall we talk about the next
15714s	match uh it's not quite ready for Band
15716s	by the looks of it but it's going to be
15717s	Snuffer versus Odin's call now this is
15720s	an interesting one because Odin's call
15723s	um half the time I don't know what
15725s	they're doing um they're either good and
15727s	then they're really good or they're just
15729s	really not um this doesn't seem to be
15730s	any middle ground for Odin's call uh I
15732s	believe believe previous years like they
15734s	came second for example uh and other
15736s	years they went out pretty much
15737s	immediately like it's just kind of 50/50
15740s	uh so I'm excited to see what happens
15741s	there snuffed out um also uh spent a lot
15744s	of time hanging around near Gates and
15747s	loc smoking something and coming up with
15750s	very bizarre comps uh four deuses for
15752s	example uh Springs to mind um there's a
15755s	point inflation rule by the way uh that
15757s	means it costs tons to bring for demases
15760s	and it went very as well as you might
15762s	expected uh to go so I'm looking forward
15764s	to this matchup because I think this is
15766s	going to be hard to predict because both
15768s	teams are quite inherently unpredictable
15771s	I think it's hard to predict because so
15772s	looking at the feeders snuff played
15775s	really well like snuff played exactly
15778s	the way that you look at like they
15780s	played better than I mean some of the
15782s	teams that we expect to play well like
15783s	uh there's a there's a moment where they
15785s	were getting rushed and they did like
15786s	the perfect like if you were going to
15788s	teach somebody a class on how to
15789s	Starburst and not die to a shield Rush
15791s	In The Alliance tournament you could
15792s	play that replay and be like look at the
15794s	positioning everyone is in the exact
15796s	perfect spot and that's not something a
15797s	team that brings four demoses does
15799s	exactly just what is going on in in in
15802s	LC these days because like they have the
15805s	potential to be really good based on
15807s	what we saw in the feeders like they are
15809s	a competent team um they clearly have
15811s	some good theory Crashers and some great
15812s	Pilots uh and then sometimes they have
15814s	this like great we outter plan and they
15816s	just toss it away and bring for misses
15819s	so I I don't know which snuff we're
15821s	going to get today uh we might get for
15823s	demons stuff we might get good stuff um
15825s	Mr Gite any further thoughts on that I
15827s	wasn't sure if you wanted add something
15829s	I was going to add that Odin is in the
15830s	same boat because two years ago they
15832s	were the second place team and they were
15834s	fantastic and last year they were kind
15835s	of dog but I know it's the same players
15838s	this year
15840s	so this is this is the coin flip right
15842s	we don't know who we're getting I think
15844s	uh I think it could be really really
15846s	good I do think snup is looking very
15848s	strong and Odin might have won because
15851s	of having just
15853s	a really it it was a meta that played to
15855s	their strengths I think as a way to put
15856s	it yeah I'm just looking at the twitch
15859s	uh Channel points you can predict in
15861s	twitch by the way I don't know if I've
15862s	mentioned this but you can go into
15863s	twitch and you can predict with your
15864s	channel points and you can redeem them
15866s	for skins which is pretty cool um you
15869s	can also gamble them all the way on
15871s	matches like this um this one at the
15873s	moment looks like your guys are mostly
15875s	favoring Odin's call 1.8 million to
15877s	900,000 I think if it was my channel
15879s	points I would put them on snuffed out
15882s	mm- incorrect wrong wrong here's why
15885s	Odin is going to win okay look snuff
15888s	they have flown really well um they
15890s	brought a shield medium gun spam in the
15894s	feeders um managed to cite away managed
15896s	to spread out managed to make sure their
15897s	DPS was on target however Odin brought
15901s	an armor medium gun spam in the feeders
15904s	and beat a shield medium gun spam in
15908s	what was essentially a mirror match up
15909s	now if anything if this match is going
15912s	to be be anything like the feeders in
15914s	the way that these teams are thinking I
15916s	think that Odin will probably be a
15917s	little bit more comfortable taking on
15919s	some of these mirror matchups or these
15921s	situations you don't necessarily want to
15923s	be in um presum I I think it's because
15926s	they will have practiced these matchups
15928s	and they'll know the inherent weaknesses
15930s	um and also I'm making all of this up in
15933s	terms of I have no idea what the hell
15935s	these teams are going to do but I'm
15937s	right and I would bet on Odin so that
15940s	that that is my stance on this okay we
15943s	may have to get the the L back out at
15944s	some point but the bands are available
15946s	let us say peruse the bands snuffed out
15950s	Banning out the EOS the orthis the
15952s	Blackbird the Loki and the typhoon Fleet
15954s	issue meanwhile Odin's call choosing to
15957s	ban the EOS the zaraz the abadin the
15959s	crucifier and the skiar blackbart
15963s	Pirates your thoughts on these
15966s	bands well I mean we have the you know
15968s	EOS bands are great we don't need to
15970s	talk about them we talked about it uh
15972s	the kind of weird ones here so typhoon
15974s	Fleet issue by snuffed out it's it's not
15977s	at13 yep demoses are available by the
15980s	way they are they could well I mean you
15982s	you wouldn't ban that come on you got to
15983s	say like look we left your ship here go
15986s	go ahead and take it no the the snuffed
15988s	out typhoon Fleet issue band is very
15989s	strange um they are not good ships
15991s	anymore in the at uh they especially in
15993s	the in a time when the get Navy issue is
15995s	basically the same thing but like better
15996s	in every single way uh I do like uh I
15999s	like the rest of them I think it's they
16001s	all have they have a lot of thought
16002s	behind them you know citar bands are
16003s	great you don't want to get kited um
16005s	we've seen the zad do really good today
16007s	like even the match where the zarm zad
16008s	team lost I feel like the zad was not
16011s	the problem it actually did fantastic so
16013s	yeah it's you know it's just a lot of
16016s	interesting like I said typhoon Fleet
16017s	issue I don't I don't get it but hey we
16019s	didn't get the carries ban last time and
16020s	then as soon as it came out and we saw
16021s	we're like oh that's why it's so they
16023s	can win The Damp War okay duh but you
16025s	know so maybe maybe snuffed out has some
16027s	Secret Sauce they're like ah yes well if
16029s	you ban the typhoon Fleet issue Odin
16030s	can't defeat us yeah well I think if I
16032s	remember correctly Odin's used the Ty
16034s	and Fleet issue quite a lot in previous
16036s	years um it's kind of good opportunity
16039s	to be both armor and shield it's kind of
16041s	like a almost like a pro man's baras in
16043s	some ways but it has this like heavy
16045s	nutes as well uh it's pretty fast if if
16047s	you care about that kind of stuff is
16049s	pretty fast uh so maybe this is a
16051s	targeted band specifically at something
16053s	that Odin's call have have brought a
16054s	bunch snuff looked at the you know
16057s	they've reviewed the tapes uh and the
16059s	tapes say hey they use a t a typh and
16061s	Fleet tisue and the fact that it's the
16062s	last ban as well um also could be to do
16065s	with that or it could just be that they
16067s	didn't realize there was another ban and
16068s	then scrambled and pick that the last
16070s	minute don't really know what else to
16071s	say we'd have to ask him so like what so
16074s	why did you ban the typhoon Fleet issue
16075s	so yeah someone be like wait we banned
16077s	the typhoon Fleet
16079s	issue okay well I mean I guess we could
16081s	go find out why they baned the Ty in
16083s	Fleet isssue uh so let's do that let's
16085s	go to the arena for snuff versus Odin's
16087s	call
16094s	um the ships are not on grid
16096s	yet um but in the meantime whilst they
16099s	come on grid uh we
16103s	got um yeah we have to wait until
16107s	they're on oh they are they are there on
16108s	the we can see them we can see them so
16112s	well SN snuffed out
16114s	brought um snuffed out stff well Tempest
16118s	issue H arbitrator when they get on grid
16121s	what a voting School no Odin's call have
16123s	brought a triple Navy
16126s	Armageddon comp uh and we can't look at
16129s	the launchers or weapon systems on this
16132s	Navy Armageddon but with three of them
16133s	I'm assuming these are going to be rapid
16135s	Heavies one of them toast BR is in a uh
16139s	one of the toast BR is in a flagship
16142s	Navy Armageddon so that is going to be a
16144s	king Slayer setup with lots of Rapid
16147s	light or rapid heavy damage right on top
16149s	of the key ships of the snuffed outside
16152s	we've also got a lot of well-known
16153s	players across both teams we've got we
16156s	got delf we've got destoyer and on an OD
16158s	is cool team we got crazy vaner uh and
16160s	we've got who else we got Colonel Curts
16162s	as well another another wellknown team
16164s	well SN out team with the fleet tempests
16167s	I mean they have to go straight in uh
16168s	they got a lot of high damage but I
16171s	think they might struggle against the
16172s	Navy armag yeah and these Navy armag are
16175s	going to be uh outrange those Fleet
16177s	Tempest assuming those are the most
16179s	likely uh AC Fleet Tempest which certain
16182s	would track with the attack bar Odin's
16184s	call larger attack bar Odin call really
16186s	needs to get down enough stuff with
16188s	their first clip of their rapid Heavies
16190s	I'm just going to double check those are
16191s	rapid Heavies they really need to get
16193s	down enough stuff with their first clip
16195s	so that they can really uh get something
16199s	off the field before they have to clip
16201s	out and reload 5 Seconds till the match
16203s	starts we've got also un schol bringing
16205s	a little purifier a little bit of damage
16207s	on the back end which I think is a
16208s	really nice addition to the to the team
16210s	especially when there's a lot of bits
16211s	being filled right now both teams going
16213s	to have to get in there get and get the
16215s	damage on I think especially the fleet
16217s	Tempest they need to get in they need to
16218s	completely brawl in otherwise they're
16220s	not going to be doing much but right now
16222s	both teams off to a bit of a slow start
16223s	which happens which is often the case in
16225s	these things both teams want to see what
16226s	the other one sort of does and then they
16228s	make a decision right now as as the
16230s	hyena comes out throws a little bit of a
16232s	we out and staying his distance which is
16234s	good but he needs to probably keep
16236s	something from burning away I think yep
16239s	yeah and you can see the snuffed out
16241s	team reacting very quickly to that hyena
16243s	let's get some NES on it get some light
16244s	drones on it uh Martin Conrad a former
16247s	align made of mine uh very frequent
16251s	tournament light tackle pilot um turning
16254s	around and heading back for reps and the
16256s	safety of the rest of his team yeah Odin
16259s	schol sort of moving in now as a unit
16260s	with the battleships right now really
16262s	good stay together keep getting and
16263s	catch something don't get split one of
16265s	the bad things you can do with a
16266s	battleship comp is get split up you
16268s	could just charge him with a couple of
16269s	battleships and one gets left behind or
16271s	gets tackled behind and then he's just
16272s	not really in the in the match anymore
16274s	snuffed out playing very reserved though
16276s	at the moment the gon out in front but
16279s	they're not you know I don't know they
16282s	it's very reserved from them when when
16284s	they should be the fleet Tempest need to
16286s	get in there yeah and this is a you this
16288s	is a you have an opportunity to come in
16290s	and kill toast BR in the flag Navy
16293s	Armageddon you have an opportunity to
16295s	get an amazing Armageddon killmail here
16298s	I think I think I mean this this is one
16299s	of those matches where like it's
16301s	tempting but want to win so they're
16302s	going to try and win has the webs come
16304s	down right now tempat of the web we're
16306s	going to start seeing the damage come
16307s	down really quickly the brawl is now
16309s	started plenty of ew on grid as well
16310s	lots of drones out as well so I think
16312s	the damage will be on the battleships
16313s	yes we got damage on nuke on the Tempest
16315s	V issue he looks to be the primary for
16317s	Odin call taking a lot of damage though
16320s	yeah Odin's call that attack bar is big
16322s	they are firing all in at nuke Michael
16325s	and indeed these are rapid heavy
16327s	Armageddon Navy issues just piling their
16330s	clips into that enemy to battleship
16332s	I do think in the terms of the DPS right
16335s	now I mean where is the DPS coming from
16337s	snuf guys what are you going for the h
16340s	is taking a bit of damage you got Batts
16342s	next to you I think just go for the
16343s	battleships and try and break through
16345s	yeah it looks like they might be trying
16346s	to get the logy of athal and kurur she's
16348s	tackled down and might be in a bit of a
16352s	bad spot but her partner The Inquisitor
16353s	right next to her able to R her up and
16356s	honestly the logy frigs are not that
16359s	easy to hit with your battleships not
16361s	really good I think if you don't have a
16363s	Vindicator and you don't have loads of
16364s	webs and TPS it's going be really hard
16365s	to apply Tempest F of nuke almost going
16368s	to go into structure huge win for Odin C
16370s	they get the first batt ship blood get
16371s	the first batt ship down and you're
16373s	basically you're so far ahead at that
16374s	point you have more damage you have more
16376s	NES you have more control in the top end
16377s	and also you're going to win on points
16379s	at that point and also own score already
16380s	one point ahead to so from the last
16383s	match I've
16385s	noticed that's what I'd say yeah but
16387s	unlike the last match the teams right
16390s	ramming into each other and trying to uh
16393s	brawl it out in classic armor Battleship
16396s	style uh snuffed out low suck Alliance
16398s	they've done lots of heavy armor brawls
16400s	in their time Odin's call in Wormhole
16402s	specifically that C2 nulc and they've
16404s	done some heavy armor themselves so this
16406s	should be a comfort place for both of
16407s	them I mean n is still holding on though
16409s	which is actually fantastic but you know
16412s	he's holding on but they're not really
16414s	you know the Navitas is barely even if
16416s	he dying he's not really dying but nuke
16418s	is bleeding in structure I really think
16420s	that snuf need to focus on the B ship
16422s	get the damage get the application on
16423s	him I know the Navitas is sort of dying
16425s	but like you said the application is not
16427s	going to be there no and with nuke goes
16430s	down these Tempest Fleet issues they
16432s	have utility highs they have mids and
16434s	boom that's a whole bunch of control as
16437s	well as DPS off the field there's no
16439s	doubt it's plenty of DPS gone off the
16440s	field and now this is the problem it's
16442s	also a psychological thing you lose your
16443s	battleship you kind of now thinking well
16445s	I can't break if I'm not breaking the
16446s	nas a minute ago I'm not going to break
16448s	him now so now again well now you lost
16451s	your maggus immediately G wiped off the
16453s	grid and now Odin school now just
16455s	methodically trying to get rid of the
16456s	command destroyers which I think it's a
16457s	good move for the long term get rid of
16460s	those links I think is really good yep
16463s	yeah clear off the links make sure that
16464s	snuffed out can't have that sustain you
16467s	or come back yeah you killed one
16469s	Battleship it's going to be much easier
16470s	to kill the next without the links and
16473s	we've seen NES on the Lodi frigs the
16475s	logi frigs aren't able to apply their
16476s	full repping power and Odin's call just
16480s	taking out the low end snuffed out as
16482s	far as ways back in this it's a little
16485s	bit rough from here they're going to
16486s	have to pick a Target that isn't that
16488s	Navitas they keep going for the Navitas
16490s	this is like no we're going to kill him
16491s	we're now's the time we're going to get
16492s	him they keep going for him she's a yeah
16495s	she's a season pilot a one of the uh
16499s	captains of the Odin call team oh really
16502s	yeah and uh often doing well holding on
16506s	taking the damage and living to win now
16508s	Odin's Co going for another 10 to F
16510s	issue which is obviously the right Co
16511s	they are at this point super far ahead
16513s	snuff would need a boundary variation or
16518s	I don't know something mad to happen or
16519s	they should I think they should just try
16520s	and go for something else try and go for
16521s	the batt ship and me adver is still in
16523s	half armor Inquisitor taking a bit of
16525s	damage now now they switched over to
16526s	Inquisitor maybe he'll die maybe they
16528s	can bring it back we'll see but the
16529s	tempers F issue is going into low well
16532s	he's getting a bit of reps as well local
16533s	tank they still have the logic figs up
16536s	um s but I mean the odds are are not in
16539s	their favor yeah in terms of just
16542s	watching this match how did we get here
16544s	uh that the Sentinel of the Odin call
16547s	team has been doing a good job we've
16549s	been seeing tracking disruptors on those
16550s	Fleet tempests that's been making it
16552s	harder for the fleet Tempest to kill
16553s	athal in the the Navitas um the
16557s	arbitrator has been putting some
16558s	disruption on the heavy missile ships
16560s	but at the same time if you're a rapid
16562s	heavy ship and you're disrupted and you
16564s	want to shoot a battleship you just get
16565s	closer yeah I mean second Tempest down
16568s	for snuffs so I mean and now yeah F has
16571s	gone off the grid now Odin's just
16572s	basically cleaning up at this point
16574s	really fantastically well played by them
16576s	um it shows they got they got good
16577s	Pilots they have good execution they
16579s	knew the target they went they go
16580s	straight for the B ship they just don't
16582s	even waste time on loif figs just just
16584s	burst through it new te game capped out
16586s	good fights going in local I think they
16587s	did a fantastic job yeah definitely and
16589s	snuffed out they're going to losers
16591s	bracket but they're not out of the
16592s	tournament and we saw they did very good
16595s	in feeders um they've had good recent
16597s	performance and with the pickup of
16599s	destoya you as you mentioned they have
16601s	tons of
16603s	tourament team got really good pilots
16606s	and stuff and like you said feeder's run
16607s	was really strong so I don't think going
16609s	to losers they can still come back it's
16611s	not it's not you know they can andly the
16613s	losers I think will be quite a grueling
16616s	experience I think if you're in losers
16618s	but you can probably get through I think
16619s	there's a lot of good teams in there um
16621s	I think later today we've got um tempis
16623s	CF and fraternity for the losers which
16627s	is crazy but it's going be amazing match
16628s	can't wait for that one um we've only
16630s	got the Vengeance left
16632s	arbitrator um Odin cool going to be
16635s	going into the win this bracket and they
16636s	I think they're a team to watch out for
16638s	OD yeah definitely they took second
16640s	place in uh yeah
16642s	at18 uh so great run previously um we've
16645s	seen them perform well in other
16647s	tournaments as well consistent strong
16650s	finishes so Odin's call definitely going
16653s	to have a this is a good opening from
16655s	them in this tournament yeah definitely
16657s	I think we'll be definitely seeing them
16659s	in the winners bracket for a while and I
16660s	think they're going to come up against
16661s	another like really strong team that' be
16663s	a fantastic Max broho in arbitrator
16667s	miles away from everybody else living
16669s	living to the end he wants to keep going
16671s	run the clock down love it don't give up
16674s	he should go for a jump drive he's
16675s	actually how far away he's actually
16676s	pretty far away but he's not going to
16677s	bound you anytime soon no no in those
16680s	rapid Heavies they're able to reach
16681s	across the arena and apply to the T1
16684s	Cruiser especially with the target
16685s	painter um and pretty much all the DPS
16689s	and the Odin call team still alive uh
16691s	this is looking to be a 200 to Zer I
16693s	don't think our friend bro is going to
16695s	be able to kite this one out a 200 200
16699s	to zero win for Odin's call uh we'll go
16701s	for a quick break and then we'll be back
16702s	at the
16705s	desk Odin's call there just
16709s	demonstrating how it's done 200 to zero
16711s	snuffed out were in fact snuffed out um
16714s	pretty convincingly as well uh blackbart
16717s	pirate um interesting choice uh from
16720s	snart to bring the flists what do you
16721s	you think about their comp yes we we've
16723s	decided their fmus now you can tell the
16726s	mist's very happy about that um yeah
16729s	interesting it's definitely you know as
16731s	as you would say one of the choices of
16733s	all time um tempus fet issues are good
16735s	ships in very specific situations uh we
16739s	actually used to see the um in fact
16741s	funnily enough Odin's call was kind of
16743s	carried by a double tempus Fleet issue
16745s	kind of control setup through their at
16747s	run where they did a really good job but
16749s	you know that was two years ago when
16751s	they were disc in points and you could
16752s	do some fun things with minitar so uh
16755s	snuffed I think it's kind of weird this
16756s	is not the snuff we saw in the feeders
16758s	like the snuff we saw in the feeders
16760s	fantastic setup probably beat that team
16762s	that stuff was like like why did you
16763s	pick that um I you know two Fleet issu
16766s	like they do a lot of damage but they
16768s	they're kind of slow uh they didn't
16770s	really have the ability to survive
16772s	anything because they're not that tanky
16774s	ships with you know minitar holes
16776s	traditionally having certain kind of
16778s	glaring resistance and lack of Hull and
16780s	armor weaknesses that allowed a triple
16783s	Navy genon setup to not quite clip them
16786s	it was like it was like this clip he
16788s	started bleeding a little bit of
16789s	structure but on the second clip they
16790s	finished him off so yeah misty misty was
16792s	disappointed Misty's very
16794s	disappointed stop bringing Navy gons
16797s	man what about if we just bring more
16801s	yeah let just keep bringing so many
16803s	points so many points I get it as a
16806s	flagship you know three good no no look
16810s	it's not the same of squalls okay we can
16812s	convince uh CB zis and we can get four
16814s	in there o that' be like four na G would
16817s	be great you must win by
16820s	default yeah okay
16822s	NE no just bring her okay so it was it
16826s	was a fine correct it was a flag Navy
16829s	gedon on the Odin side was it a flag
16831s	navon on the Odin side I think I'm like
16834s	8.93% sure 89.3 that's a high percentage
16837s	that's pretty high we'll be told shortly
16839s	I mean somebody will be like yeah cut
16842s	his m c his Mike yes it
16844s	was so they brought a flag Navy genon
16847s	and then two little friends to be with
16848s	it I know what they've done they've
16850s	disguised it so you can't tell which
16851s	one's the flag see you have to know how
16854s	to read to be able to know exactly most
16857s	of us don't know how to do that correct
16859s	that's true so it makes sense yeah hey
16861s	look
16863s	just bring more Navy gets got it all
16866s	right the cup game like oh which Navy
16868s	get is the flagship just bring redeemers
16870s	and abandons and stuff and it works just
16873s	as well and it doesn't clip so you know
16876s	we saw the they won H yeah yeah yeah
16880s	trip trip is undefeated the other team
16883s	brought
16884s	flists which
16886s	suck I'm sorry I just can't believe
16889s	you're disparaging The
16890s	Undefeated 200 to zero triple Navy gon
16895s	setup but snuff effectively turned up
16898s	and didn't do anything okay F temp
16903s	fists are not great but they're not as
16906s	bad as navy gons so I would say bring a
16910s	redeemer bring an Abad bring your
16912s	Flagship Navy gedon have a few more
16913s	points to spend on other things round
16915s	out the comp a little bit more and I
16917s	think it would be stronger because then
16919s	you don't end up clipping on three
16921s	battleships at the same time while the
16923s	ship you're shooting is still alive and
16925s	you have to wait you just have the
16926s	constant pressure coming in and it
16928s	probably means that it dies faster you
16930s	know more reliable I you know I know you
16933s	are I know you
16934s	agree but also they did win they did win
16937s	yeah yeah literally undefeated yep 100%
16940s	winning on the first day doesn't count
16942s	does losing on the first day count yeah
16944s	also
16945s	no first day never counts changes
16948s	everything I know that interesting well
16950s	I missed that part I guess we'll tell
16951s	the last three matches it's like oh
16952s	don't worry about it we know you're
16953s	eliminated but it's the first day starts
16956s	in like half an hour so what if you're
16958s	the so there was one point where the
16960s	literally the only team in the entire
16962s	tournament that had lost a match was
16964s	fraternity yeah it doesn't count okay
16967s	okay just being sure all right let's
16968s	look at our next match is arrival versus
16970s	Ronin reloaded uh take a quick look at
16972s	the bands arrival who have a flagship
16975s	varer by the way interesting choice
16977s	we'll talk about that some the time um
16978s	they banned out the arbitrator the
16980s	crucifier the curse and the pilgrim so
16983s	trackon disrupts just gone um and Ronin
16986s	reloaded Banning out the Scimitar The
16988s	Jacka The zorz and the Loki uh myo your
16992s	opinions in this L this particular um
16995s	segment have been questionable at best
16997s	so I'm going to go to Bart I see well
16999s	they did not ban DET tring disruptors
17001s	there is one ship left because I
17003s	remember had a count unlike that time
17005s	last year when I was like oh they're all
17006s	gone and you're like actually um so the
17009s	Sentinel is still up and the Sentinel is
17010s	actually probably one of the best
17012s	tracking disrupt boats and also they're
17014s	very good because quick cycling small
17015s	noes are absolutely disgusting versus Lo
17018s	Logistics especially Lodi frigs which
17020s	we've seen many many many of in fact
17022s	usually you see twice as many as regular
17024s	Logistics cruisers for some strange
17026s	mathematical reason um so I get that
17028s	rival bands like okay you're getting rid
17030s	of track and disruptors besides
17032s	Sentinels that points very very heavily
17035s	to either a lasack setup which I kind of
17038s	doubt they're going to bring or some
17039s	kind of weird gun based setup now
17042s	extrapolating this they have a flag
17044s	varer which you said we would talk about
17047s	later and now is a great time because we
17048s	may or may not see it um which is a very
17052s	weird choice but also they do a ton of
17053s	damage and they have a lot of tracking
17054s	so you know they have the ability to use
17057s	their flag varer to just destroy things
17060s	now I am questioning the existence of
17063s	the flagship varer like does it actually
17065s	exist is there
17067s	a faction officer fet varer sitting in
17070s	someone's hanger right now oh well okay
17073s	yes is it going to be in the at I don't
17075s	know but do there there's there's a
17076s	faction officer fit varer sitting in my
17078s	hanger right now so I'm just you know
17079s	but yeah in the at uh
17082s	I I would hope to see it um I do think
17084s	that the it does get a bonus on micro
17085s	jump cool down yeah so you could just
17088s	bounce all over all over the place ping
17089s	pong ball just how how do you stop it h
17092s	you don't you just lose the only thing
17094s	that could possibly defeat it would be
17095s	the triple Navy gon setup yeah cuz then
17097s	it would be Ned out yeah and clipped and
17099s	clipped yeah yeah so it's going to work
17103s	yeah all right so what are your
17105s	predictions in arrival are a really
17106s	solid team um they've done pretty well
17108s	they one of the things I will call out
17110s	for them is they usually do a really
17112s	nice uh like breakdown afterwards with
17114s	some videos and like talk through all
17115s	the the processes super interesting if
17117s	you new tournaments I recommend checking
17119s	that out uh I see Ronin are bringing
17121s	their Flagship armagedon Navy issue
17122s	perhaps one of three we'll find out soon
17124s	um and yeah I think I'm going to go for
17126s	arrival on this one uh what do you think
17129s	B yeah I think arrival um they they they
17131s	are the ones that invented the modern
17132s	Shield rush for those who don't know but
17134s	that's a history lesson that would take
17135s	at least 30 seconds to say so we'll hold
17137s	that for later if they win or not we'll
17139s	find out very soon uh and uh Mr your
17141s	opinions are discounted this time so I'm
17143s	just going to bypass you and go straight
17145s	to handing this one over to the
17147s	commentators in the booth for uh Ronin
17150s	reloaded versus
17154s	arrival hello and welcome to the arena
17157s	for this last game before the
17159s	elimination matches uh Ron and reloaded
17161s	have shown up with a armor Kings Slayer
17163s	setup featuring their Flagship Navy
17166s	Armageddon with two additional rapid
17168s	heavy missile friends uh Starfleet what
17171s	have arrival bot arrival varer not the
17173s	flag Vara we we we got hopes up we had
17176s	hopes up for another flag Flagship fight
17178s	off but nothing happened varer Navy FX
17182s	fantasm fantasm stormbringer stalk
17184s	interesting comp from them actually is
17186s	this going to be I don't know this could
17188s	go out of the way yeah this is this is
17189s	really sort of like in a way the updated
17192s	Shield Rush maybe it's the shield medium
17194s	gun spam uh with a varer with a varer
17197s	yeah Shield medium guard spam and extra
17200s	medium gun spam uh the uh the Run
17202s	reloaded tide they're going to be doing
17204s	the same thing that the Odin team were
17205s	doing last team last game which is to
17207s	say putting a whole bunch of damage on a
17210s	single Target and trying to burn it down
17211s	in a single clip uh arrival bigger
17214s	attack bar if they can get rid of one of
17216s	those battleships in particular if they
17217s	can survive the first clip uh they'll be
17220s	able to put a world of hurt on Ronin I
17222s	mean arrival Waring at 50 max range they
17224s	did come out a a um an angle which is
17227s	means that they're actually kind of
17228s	close to each other um so it's going to
17230s	be definitely Ronin ra running in and
17233s	trying to get something I think uh I
17234s	think arrival are going to try and stay
17236s	back and get some projection going 7
17238s	seconds on the clock to the start I mean
17239s	do you think that a rival need to just
17241s	prioritize small ships or or go for go
17243s	for something go for a battleship or
17244s	something I think a rival probably need
17246s	to prioritize the smaller ships uh they
17248s	if they can get their speed up they
17249s	should be able to mitigate at least some
17251s	of the rapid heavy damage stay away from
17254s	in particular the utility of that Fleet
17255s	typhoon Inquisitor almost down oh the
17259s	damage coming down fast from arrival no
17262s	wasting no time handsy babes not wasting
17264s	a second at the beginning of the match
17266s	getting it down quickly hiring the next
17268s	Target amazing perfect I think a
17270s	fantastic second target getting him down
17272s	well he's almost dead I speak too soon
17275s	no I don't he's dead there's there's no
17277s	way the hyen is surviving this is the
17279s	kind of decisiveness that you need if
17281s	you're going to Pilot an aggressive comp
17284s	and it's not exactly the traditional
17285s	rush but this is another aggressive comp
17287s	and just like that Confessor also
17289s	deleted going by up they've been able to
17292s	clear Three Ships Before Ronin reloaded
17294s	has been able to make serious progress
17296s	on a single Navy Fox I mean the the pros
17299s	right now is just that just rival have
17302s	that instant damage which you just see
17304s	it's just it just lands so fast you're
17305s	seeing on your screen right now
17306s	everything's kind of all the low end
17307s	ships are just getting wiped off the map
17309s	all the tackle the hyena was a huge huge
17311s	kill as well so right now Ronin have
17314s	nothing to really catch up yeah we saw
17317s	as soon as that hyena went down the
17319s	target paints went off of Furious
17321s	Furious now comfortably tanking the
17324s	damage from the fleet typon and navy
17326s	Armageddon and with that low end removed
17328s	arrival are able to start bringing that
17330s	damage to bear on the fleet typhoon and
17333s	start taking out the DPS now that DPS
17336s	it's not really in evidence right here
17338s	that attack bar is a little tiny it's
17340s	very small and also I think we might see
17342s	a flag die here today maybe in this
17344s	match we see if I mean the flag the
17346s	typhoon Fleet issue is going to be the
17348s	first to die obviously I think they'll
17350s	probably go for I mean I'm assuming
17351s	they'll go for the other or get first
17353s	just to get him down just to secure the
17355s	win you don't want to waste time on a
17356s	flagship potentially unless you're
17358s	confident um that you're going to win uh
17360s	I'd say Hy babes just needs to stay
17364s	alive as long as possible he is tackled
17366s	uh he's being ProMed right now by all
17367s	the Batts on the running team I think he
17369s	might he should tank and last a Reload I
17372s	think yeah and they're about halfway
17374s	through their clip once these rapid
17376s	heavy ships finish firing they'd have
17378s	like a 45 second reload before they're
17380s	able to start firing again so we'll see
17382s	Ronin reloaded attack bar drop
17384s	precipitously uh and Hy babes is
17386s	Comfortably still in in good Shield
17388s	spots he's he's doing well the two
17390s	scales right now are just came back into
17392s	a bit of range they're probably on their
17394s	complete um full off I reckon or Optimum
17396s	full off probably somewhere between you
17397s	can't come too close um because you
17399s	don't want to get tackled cuz I think in
17401s	one of these matches um their
17403s	survivability is super important if your
17404s	varas completely tackled down the
17406s	scalers need to stay alive for the late
17408s	game cuz if you lose them at the
17409s	beginning it's it's you know you saw the
17411s	F Navy issue they don't have much tank
17413s	so you want to make sure you have your
17414s	scar alive so they're doing really well
17416s	but obviously handsy might he's dipping
17418s	down and the tyon fleet ISO oh the armag
17420s	Navy Sho now is is nearly dead as well
17422s	yeah and the the rapid heavy battleships
17424s	just clipped they stopped firing and
17426s	with that you can see the vargar healing
17428s	back up getting repped back up by those
17430s	scalpel those scalpel are taking n
17432s	pressure the I've talked about this
17433s	before but the problem with the logi
17435s	fgets is you got to get them into range
17437s	and the all of these battleships have
17439s	NES in their highs oh I see oh no this
17442s	is a um there is a flag varo yeah it is
17446s	a flag varo okay just a flag okay our
17450s	bad we uh which is why it's tanking so
17452s	well yeah as as the desk was saying you
17454s	have to read and uh it's it's
17455s	challenging it's difficult it's
17456s	challenging for us two Batts down right
17458s	now last Arman Navy issue which is the
17461s	flagship for R reloaded on the grid
17462s	right now he will definitely down maggus
17464s	goes down I think they're going to have
17465s	to go for him now I think arrival
17469s	playing fantastically well a lot of
17471s	really good pilots on their team howling
17473s	wind we've got hansy baz we've got black
17474s	teth um there so adenu as well really
17478s	really good pilot from many he's been
17479s	tournament for a long time so I'm not
17481s	really surprised that their execution
17483s	was on point yeah they had a very clean
17484s	run through the feeders uh they brought
17487s	rush it was piloted very well including
17489s	uh yeah really good showing yeah they
17491s	lit smashed it yeah completely destroyed
17493s	that Deacon about to go down well he's
17495s	been part targeted right now I think
17497s	they want to get the flag down and
17499s	obviously right now it's 90% Loot drop
17500s	isn't it yep so that flag dies uh then
17503s	not only will we in the audience get to
17506s	see a delightful kill mail but
17508s	especially with no other ships on grid
17511s	to pop the wreck ninja loot it otherwise
17514s	scoop those mods before uh arrival is
17516s	able to get it arrival should be able to
17519s	add some money to their tournament War
17520s	chest you've also got to be quick cuz CP
17522s	will move you out afterwards so you have
17524s	you have to be quick he has to be on the
17525s	ball so he dies you got to go get on on
17528s	the on the wreck immediately L you know
17530s	cuz sometimes you they just move out at
17532s	the end of the match once it's finished
17533s	you're out cuz the other team's coming
17534s	in so you got to be quick the school
17536s	though taking a bit of damage zags don't
17539s	die the flag dead now yeah yeah I was
17542s	going to say is the strategy here for
17543s	bed deall is to get to a beacon and like
17545s	start a jump the minute and then get out
17548s	of the the arena uh but uh looks like
17551s	it's not going to be an issue we see a
17553s	huge cloud of rival ships around uh the
17556s	Navy Armageddon wreck and uh bed boss
17559s	caught shot uh and and will be going
17562s	down and we will be going back to the
17565s	desk after a short
17568s	break there you have it in vargar We
17570s	Trust as said the flagship varer uh it
17573s	has fulfilled its Destiny and uh stomped
17576s	the enemy composition uh 200 to zero uh
17580s	a solid win there uh by arrival uh well
17583s	done Flagship varer we know what the
17585s	problem was though uh for running
17587s	reloaded black bar pirate enlighten me
17590s	all right so they only had two armag get
17594s	Navy issues which one was a flagship
17596s	which is good but as we have discovered
17599s	through the power of math you need to
17600s	have three one is also okay and it does
17604s	seem that zero wins like at least a fair
17606s	amount but two two is bad all right so
17608s	they should not have brought two they
17610s	should have boughten three um I think
17612s	that they actually could have possibly
17613s	won with three maybe well the the varer
17616s	rammed in you saw the varer rammed in
17619s	and really dealt with a VAR timeing in
17622s	nobody was nobody was prepared for nice
17626s	Redeemer uh I don't know go that far I a
17630s	whole untested we we have signs behind
17634s	we have we have empirical proof that
17636s	three armagedon Navy issues is good yeah
17639s	we don't know about redeemers I have a
17640s	flagship Kill Me by the way it's nice
17641s	Flagship uh approximately 50 of your
17644s	finest internet spaceship billions um
17646s	and thank you once again to the 90% Loop
17648s	drop most of it dropped uh 24 billion in
17652s	Toby rapid heavy missile launchers
17654s	dropped uh I think pretty much
17656s	everything dropped there's even like
17658s	unpriced stuff those are about 20 25
17661s	Bill okay so this is more like a 70 bill
17663s	yeah uh loss right here that's expensive
17667s	e wow very nice very nice now here's my
17670s	question because every once in a while
17672s	on Zill you can see what the guns of the
17674s	ships that shot them was do we know what
17677s	kind of weapons the varer had it had the
17679s	varer ah yeah yeah they were shooting
17682s	the flagship varer was shooting smaller
17684s	vargar yes well I mean I don't know I
17687s	don't how do you defeat that there's no
17689s	possible way just varer all the way down
17691s	ah well well then the the varer will be
17693s	a mystery fit for now yes but at some
17696s	point maybe it won't be at some point
17698s	maybe it won't be at some point maybe
17699s	either because the tournament's over it
17701s	didn't die yeah or someone will will
17703s	catch the flag varer and it will do what
17705s	vargar normally do and die I don't think
17708s	it was a lack of being caught the vargar
17710s	rammed in
17711s	like the varer was in the between all of
17713s	the ships and it actually tanked really
17715s	really well which uh means it's
17717s	definitely got some bling on it cuz you
17718s	know people don't know you can't use
17720s	Bastion modules in the alliance
17721s	tournament for very good reasons um
17723s	there was a part we were kind of
17724s	watching the vargan it did almost break
17726s	shield for a second but like the amount
17728s	that it was repping even without a
17729s	basion module means there's at least
17730s	there's something on there there's
17732s	something expensive y I'm sure um that
17734s	Hy Vapes got a little bit worried at a
17737s	moment when he Shield was just still
17738s	going down he's like oh no
17741s	have we made an error yep chat claims
17744s	that there are officer guns on the Vara
17745s	and I assume you can actually check the
17747s	other kill mails from that match it's a
17749s	good point I could do that yeah someone
17751s	else should do that I'm not going to do
17752s	that yeah that sounds like good that
17753s	sounds like a lot of effort We Trust
17756s	yeah I mean I'll ask twitch chat like I
17757s	said we're opinion based podcast they
17759s	stopped being wrong they've been right
17760s	for a while oh there it is somebody says
17762s	I don't know if they're correct or not
17764s	but uh oh I see a lot of people saying
17765s	it there you go yeah but twitchchat
17766s	officer guns yep twitch chat once again
17770s	you're good you help us you so good to
17772s	us so good to us um yep I can see it
17776s	here uh off again yep uh muros modified
17779s	800 millim repeating cannons those are
17781s	the good ones too those are the good
17782s	ones what would we do without you twitch
17783s	chat yeah I don't know what we would do
17785s	I don't know they could just take over
17788s	true ttch runs twitch Twitch Plays
17791s	Alliance tournament uh XX casting yeah
17794s	imagine uh remember twitch played
17796s	Pokemon yeah imagine there was like an
17798s	alliance tournament team that was just
17799s	played by like twitch
17801s	commend I think twitch chat's happy with
17803s	that idea yeah they're like yeah
17806s	Scholars it's it's
17809s	goonswarm yeah yeah yeah that's now
17812s	Misty I know uh that you are also um
17815s	doing your best to not talk about the
17816s	next match um because we're we're going
17819s	into the losers bracket it's the bracket
17821s	where losers are are you sure yes it's
17823s	the loser bracket not just winners and
17825s	waiting well yeah no they're definitely
17828s	losers okay that's fine 50% of them will
17830s	be losers yeah 50% of them will be
17832s	double
17834s	losers some some some of them are like
17836s	half half of them are winners in waiting
17839s	yeah are losers losers yes okay now what
17843s	about your beloved fraternity they lost
17846s	open champions of Alliance tournament 19
17850s	one of the most exciting finals we've
17851s	seen in a long time I recommend go back
17853s	and watching it it was amazing um a new
17856s	winner a new team to put their Crest
17858s	upon the monument in monarc it blazed
17861s	across the Stars
17863s	amazing turned up [ __ ] the
17865s	bed Navy
17867s	gons Navy get can't just blame all your
17870s	problems on I and I will how many did
17872s	they bring two ah yes needed the third
17876s	one
17878s	no more Navy gons so as I as I have
17883s	alluded to losers bracket this means you
17886s	lose your art that's it defending
17888s	Champions literally could go home and
17890s	they have to go up against a pretty
17892s	solid team temples CF so this is
17894s	essentially two basically Alliance
17897s	Tournament winning teams a temples
17898s	Castle won the alliance open fraternity
17900s	won Alliance tourament 19 this is this
17903s	is a a Powerhouse match potentially yes
17906s	exciting stuff how are you feeling I'm
17909s	absolutely fine I'm going to go have to
17910s	find the frat flag for when we win this
17912s	match okay I'm confident I was confident
17916s	and I looked at the bands and I don't
17917s	like some of what I see let's take a
17919s	look at those bands let's bring those
17920s	bands up so Bart fraternity Banning out
17924s	the Loki and the EOS and then the ishar
17926s	I'm not sure that's because they they
17928s	spend so long like spinning them around
17929s	Havens in nul that they think it's good
17932s	uh and then the slep near meanwhile
17933s	Templar spanning at the Armageddon
17935s	Armageddon Navy issue that's sad can't
17936s	get three of them uh tyen flu isssue and
17939s	the hyena what do you think of these
17941s	bands Bart well you could get two armag
17942s	get Navy issues no you can only do one
17946s	oh no what if both teams bring them oh
17949s	is that can't
17951s	is temp's
17952s	flag yeah it's probably not I I feel
17955s	like they're going to be Bargas and joy
17956s	I can't remember T my head I remember I
17959s	could check but I won't we we're
17960s	terrible people we're like um yeah no uh
17962s	isar band's weird again nobody's brought
17965s	an isar yet it's been banned twice oh
17967s	they're Bal Gorn enjoyers they're Bal
17969s	Gorn enjoyers oo what is a BAL Gorn but
17971s	a better armag Navy um is
17976s	it okay so anyways Ishtar weird but
17980s	still in it we haven't seen one yet
17982s	they're not very good anymore correct
17984s	and it's drones yep but fraternity
17987s	actually has they so last year they used
17989s	a ton of drone control setups this year
17991s	they started with a drone control setup
17993s	and lost to another drone control setup
17995s	which you know um so maybe that's uh
17999s	maybe that's their way of kind of
18000s	debating like what if this is The Shield
18002s	drones coming
18004s	out I don't think that's the case but
18007s	I'm just trying to think I'm trying to
18008s	like why would you ban the Ishtar I than
18010s	to signal to somebody hey like we don't
18013s	want to see drones before you surprise
18014s	them with drones yeah I mean the EOS
18017s	band I think is solid yep always uh
18018s	always a solid ban um it's a great chip
18021s	uh the low key means that your Nighthawk
18023s	ham Rush is kind of hamstr strong you
18025s	can you can kind of squeeze one in but
18027s	then we talked a little bit about this
18028s	earlier like sometimes you have a comp
18030s	you're like this is our comp and then
18032s	someone bans something and you're like
18034s	well we could just change it to this and
18036s	it will probably still work uh and if if
18038s	Point differences it gets really
18039s	confusing
18040s	um like how do you deal with bands when
18043s	you have a comp like how many
18044s	alternative versions do you have do you
18045s	have to have mytic M okay how many
18048s	alternative versions do you have to have
18051s	probably only it it really depends on
18053s	the comp sometimes a comp only works
18054s	when there's a specific set of ships and
18057s	if you lose one then you can't really
18058s	run the comp effectively and sometimes
18060s	you can have a couple of different
18062s	Replacements the comp may lose some of
18064s	its Effectiveness but generally it's
18065s	still really strong and you've probably
18067s	practiced the replacement ship so you
18068s	know how it works and how you might need
18069s	to tweak a place play style and then
18071s	some
18072s	comps yeah like a lot of it's just
18075s	interchangeable right um again to to
18078s	varying degrees I think for drones for
18079s	example there are a lot of different
18080s	ships you can bring in if you really
18083s	really wanted to do drones you've got
18085s	like mermaid on Navy issues you've got
18086s	meridon you've got vexes you got Vex
18088s	Navy issues you got Stratos you got
18089s	gilas you got alligators there's a lot
18092s	right if you wanted to
18094s	do I don't know like ham rush you know
18097s	you got Nighthawk alligator and then
18099s	you're down to like
18101s	onyx's
18102s	lokis it it and then squishy ships like
18105s	caracal carac navies and stuff like that
18108s	or squals so um I would say you probably
18112s	don't want to plan to have like 15
18114s	different variations of the same comp um
18116s	unless it is around your like Flagship
18119s	like if you have a flagship comp you
18121s	probably want to have various variations
18122s	so if someone tries to ban you out of it
18124s	you're still able to bring your Flagship
18126s	if you don't have variations for that
18128s	then one or two targeted bands might
18130s	mean that you can't F your Flagship at
18131s	all and then that makes it effectively
18133s	useless it's still useful in a way to
18136s	make people ban it out and waste two of
18138s	their bands three of their bands getting
18140s	rid of your
18141s	Flagship but generally people have the
18143s	flagship so that they can actually use
18144s	it because it's strong so um I'd say
18148s	Flagship comps have a lot of variations
18151s	practice them all know how they work
18153s	other comps just have have a decent po
18156s	to pick from um and you should generally
18158s	be okay and it's very important that you
18160s	have this poll because when we get into
18162s	like final weekends when we're having
18164s	the conquest
18166s	banss you're going to need more than
18168s	like two comps to be able to actually
18170s	like effectively fly in the tournament
18171s	so yeah Conquest bands if uh you're new
18174s	to the alliance tournament in the best
18175s	of three and best of five finals um if
18178s	you win with a set of ships then those
18180s	ships are then banned for the next match
18182s	so you can't bring the same ones again
18183s	uh and this kind of rolls this window
18185s	rolls forward so you can end up with
18186s	quite a lot of ships banned um if you if
18188s	you win like two matches in a row for
18189s	example uh so you have to be really able
18191s	to go into uh deep setups G swarm
18194s	Federation would have struggled with
18195s	this cuz they managed to bring uh 10
18197s	different chips uh in their comp so that
18198s	would have been 10 ships just Bang
18200s	banned uh whereas you'll see when you
18201s	get to the final stage a lot of teams
18203s	will suffer with the um uh the point
18206s	inflation rule by bringing multiple of
18207s	the same thing because they know less
18209s	ships banned out
18212s	overall mytic M so what it says on
18216s	screen is that the gon Navy issue is
18219s	terrible uh but frat is bringing their
18221s	flag to this particular match so flag
18225s	gon Navy issue there is one on grid
18228s	which is know the rules they're going to
18230s	have to have a redeemer and a bad in man
18232s	they're going have some good stuff they
18234s	can't bring more than one so we're going
18236s	to win I want to see what um uh people
18239s	are voting on ooh this is extremely even
18242s	almost 50/50 almost exactly 50/50 in
18245s	twitch uh Channel points so everyone is
18247s	split like I am quite split in this one
18249s	as well like both of these
18251s	teams have the potential to do very very
18254s	well like both of them are winners frat
18256s	more recently than others um but they
18259s	are still extremely experienced teams
18261s	with very good Pilots very good theory
18262s	crafting knowledge Deep Pockets to fit
18265s	uh like you know well fit flagships so
18267s	this really could go either way this is
18269s	a I mean it's a win or go home for both
18271s	of these teams and both of these teams
18273s	want to you know not go home on day one
18274s	of Alliance tournament 20 um especially
18277s	I would imagine the defending Champions
18279s	so
18281s	this is going to be a good one I think
18281s	this might be one of the the matches of
18283s	the day it may indeed be a good match or
18285s	my team may lose we'll see we'll
18288s	definitely find out we could head over
18290s	to the arena and find that out basically
18292s	now uh so let's do that let's go in for
18294s	this first of our elimination matches of
18297s	Alliance tournament 20 one of these
18298s	teams will go home will it be fraternity
18301s	will it be tempas Cal let's go and find
18303s	out
18307s	now welcome back to the arena my name is
18309s	Fana joined by by CCP Aurora and on the
18311s	red side we have fraternity who have
18313s	brought Kings Slayer once again despite
18315s	the bands coming out from templ Cala
18317s	they have brought their Flagship Namy
18319s	Armageddon What have Cala brought tempas
18321s	C have brought a very standard uh
18324s	missile Rush comp um except however with
18326s	the Loki band it looks like they've
18328s	swapped in onyxes to fill that role
18330s	it'll fill very similar damage um and
18332s	long range uh tackle uh however it won't
18335s	be able to shut down uh it'll be weaker
18338s	against after burning fits because those
18340s	uh don't they don't have the webs and it
18342s	will be kinetic locked unlike the Loki
18344s	would be and uh here fraternity uh
18347s	obviously they that T2 Cruiser largy and
18349s	the eneros if it's got an AB fit the onx
18352s	is aren't going to be able to do a whole
18353s	lot to them uh that said double Jack
18355s	dolls uh we'll see if they're able to uh
18359s	do a whole lot there as that said we are
18363s	now underway in the match fraternity dot
18366s	with their dual rapid heavy setup are
18367s	going to try to kill something and as uh
18371s	we see calf they're just rushing
18373s	directly in they're not even holding
18375s	back like Volta Dead versus Brave this
18376s	is actually uh the same type of comps
18379s	that we saw earlier today we saw sentes
18382s	go out um those entries are going to
18384s	become a little bit less effective as
18385s	the tempus CI team gets right on top of
18388s	those ships they weren't really able to
18389s	pull the range uh we can see damage now
18392s	going onto seran karuga uh on the
18394s	fraternity side uh we'll see if uh this
18397s	Rush is good enough this will be a big
18399s	positioning game um if frat can't hold
18402s	them off and they allow these ships to
18403s	get on top of them uh and they kill key
18406s	targets fast enough then this will be
18408s	one for Cal potentially um but we'll see
18411s	how it goes well Cal has three ships of
18412s	their's webbed right now the Claymore
18414s	the Navy ospray and the Navy caracle and
18416s	as I say that the Navy Osprey goes down
18418s	so fraternity their job with this ash
18420s	moon with this Punisher are to keep
18423s	calung out and not able to all collapse
18425s	together on the same Target siren naruga
18427s	currently about half armor should end up
18429s	going down of this Rush eventually even
18431s	through the inos but how much can
18433s	fraternity take for that we see tackle
18435s	onto this Navy caracle as well as this
18438s	Jacka who's trying to get tackle on top
18440s	of the fraternity backline and this
18442s	Claymore still tackled has extra range
18444s	compared to the nigh Hawk but the nigh
18445s	Hawk's also tackled scrammed and webbed
18447s	uh but they're right on top of the
18449s	typhoon these Carle navies are not
18451s	particularly tough and it looks like
18452s	he's going into armor now uh probably
18454s	about to leave the field um it they're
18458s	also struggling a little bit here with
18460s	uh lasers coming from uh oh actually
18462s	we're probably looking at fairly
18464s	selectable damage from coming from the
18465s	fraternity side onto these calari
18467s	resists which is going to be pretty
18469s	punishing for The Punisher goes down I'd
18470s	like to point out this Nighthawk is
18472s	completely and totally far away from the
18474s	typhoon the only battle uh Cruiser that
18476s	was able to get on top of the Armageddon
18478s	Navy issue uh was the Claymore but the
18481s	nigh Hawk has been scrammed off has not
18483s	nearly the same amount of ranges that
18484s	Claymore and as we see uh the pawn
18486s	effects go down fraternity has done a
18489s	very good job of keeping this uh DPS
18491s	Rush strung out uh and screened off of
18494s	their big DPS boats but as I say that
18496s	they are starting to lose lengths yeah
18498s	that typhoon is pulled far away he
18499s	stopped losing armor they are losing
18501s	their Mages which is going to hurt them
18503s	uh in the next couple minutes when those
18504s	links fall off um but that typhoon is
18507s	actually slowly regening armor uh
18509s	because they can't uh the caler team
18511s	isn't able to get on top of it um this
18513s	is the positioning that will be so
18515s	critical for them and I think something
18517s	The Dusk is going to be able to point
18518s	out is since we saw this match up
18520s	earlier today with the voled brave match
18524s	what went different here for Fraternity
18526s	um after the start of the match because
18528s	fraternity seems to be in a very good
18530s	position right now uh they've taken out
18532s	these two DPS boats and they've kept
18534s	this Nighthawk off of their typhoon and
18536s	the Nighthawk uh now turning onto this
18539s	ashamu the typhoon continuing to live
18541s	the ashamu is the last screen available
18543s	from fraternity so after that kov should
18544s	be able to get on top of these ships but
18546s	they've lost uh pretty much all of their
18548s	lowend DPS at Ash was also living for
18551s	quite a while uh the
18554s	uh he he seems to be just self- repping
18557s	he's got a he's got some repair drones
18558s	on him that are that are keeping him
18560s	alive uh but uh the longer that he lives
18563s	the better the more that F time that
18565s	frat has to control the positioning game
18568s	um and they can kind of hold things off
18569s	although it looks like the fight is now
18571s	collapsing so they'll probably go back
18572s	on the typhoon here shortly if they can
18574s	hold him down Deon penin in the onx has
18577s	been the target from these dual rabit
18578s	Heavies and now
18580s	down goes Devon penin in the aen Rex
18583s	very low structure goes down so it's
18584s	three DPS boats to two if we take a look
18586s	at the attack Bar C of St attack bar is
18589s	much much shorter than fraternities
18592s	however fraternity still dual rapid
18594s	Heavies they're very bursty if they can
18596s	get this typhoon down before the reload
18598s	completes then they might still have a
18600s	shot in this
18602s	match oh this is this is still pretty
18605s	tight um Tempest C if it really if it
18608s	really depends on if this typhoon
18610s	if they're able to put any meaningful
18611s	damage on it if they could take the
18612s	typhoon down which is looking more and
18614s	more unlikely given the size of that
18615s	attack bar maybe someone burn out guns
18617s	at this point it's looking pretty small
18619s	that attack bar is much smaller than it
18621s	was before I wouldn't be surprised if
18622s	someone actually burned out the guns
18623s	here from the temples C team Now Grant
18626s	you Temple Kel of ended up winning the
18628s	rush tournament uh as Alliance Open
18631s	winners but they haven't had really had
18633s	a whole lot of tourament success uh
18634s	since then and they're up against last
18636s	year's uh winners who surprisingly went
18638s	to the lower bracket um this time around
18641s	the rush not quite playing out the way
18643s	that they wanted to in this matchup
18644s	fraternity out executing them and as
18647s	this KN Hawk and Claymore are starting
18648s	to die uh fraternity looks like they
18651s	will keep their typhoon and their
18652s	Flagship alive and go on through the
18655s	lower bracket yeah I haven't seen any
18657s	shots come out from this Claymore so
18658s	it's looking like he might have burnt
18660s	out or either that he's on he's been on
18662s	a very long reload uh so that might have
18665s	been a critical a critical uh error for
18668s	the tempis side if that is indeed what
18671s	happened um perhaps we can confirm that
18673s	after but good job to uh fraternity uh
18676s	staying in this loser bracket match and
18679s	uh unfortunately tempus c will be seeing
18681s	you next year yeah I mean k was pretty
18684s	obvious in their bands they didn't want
18685s	to face King Slayer um and fr JY was
18688s	obviously uh prepared to not have dual
18691s	armag G Navy issue and be with the kind
18694s	of worse of the armor King Slayer ships
18696s	in the uh regular typhoon also uh
18700s	something that we haven't really noted
18701s	on is the guance disruptions these arbit
18702s	trators have been putting a lot of
18704s	guance disruption on the temple C side
18706s	um fraternity definitely kind of dared
18710s	templus to rush them by Banning the Loki
18713s	um and not really showing a whole lot
18715s	here so I think fraternity definitely
18718s	showed a very strong ban strategy and
18721s	very strong reactions to that in this
18722s	tournament this Nighthawks about to go
18724s	down um so what are kind of your
18727s	thoughts on the uh temples calf comp and
18732s	um kind of their ideas going into this
18735s	match I I think that they went with a
18737s	rush comp after the uh with that Loki
18740s	Band Pick hoping that it was what uh
18743s	fraternity didn't want to see uh however
18746s	it just really didn't work out for them
18747s	so they they attempted to swap in onyx's
18750s	for uh lokis and they just lost the
18753s	positioning game they weren't able to
18754s	get on top of things that ashamu lived a
18756s	little bit too long they were able uh uh
18758s	the uh fraternity side was able to pull
18761s	that typhoon away keep it alive he's
18763s	still alive his armor has been fully
18764s	wrapped up at this point yeah and I
18766s	think that's what changed the game so it
18768s	might have been different if they had
18769s	had those lokis in order to make that
18771s	comp work because perhaps they wouldn't
18773s	have uh struggled so much to get that
18775s	damage on top of their targets yeah but
18778s	positioning wins those longer range webs
18779s	the Loki is obviously being tankier than
18781s	the Onyx is as well um I I would like to
18784s	shout out these arbitrators obviously
18785s	for doing work against these hams and
18787s	preventing them from applying um but
18790s	remlin and the ashamu uh did so much in
18793s	the start of this match to keep uh
18795s	fraternity strung out and keep that uh
18797s	all important Nighthawk off of the
18798s	typhoon so really well played to them
18800s	temples calf now only with the Claymore
18803s	remaining uh before the Claymore dies do
18805s	we have any final thoughts before we
18806s	send it back I look forward to seeing
18808s	fraternity's last match next match not
18811s	last match hopefully not last match I
18813s	mean they're number one se's going into
18814s	this
18815s	tournament uh really uh
18819s	[Music]
18832s	but uh they did make the tournament this
18833s	time around and uh with how competitive
18836s	The Field's been uh making the
18837s	tournament in of itself is quite an
18839s	accomplishment now absolutely uh this
18842s	the the alliance tournament is getting
18843s	tougher and tougher every year as the
18845s	the amount of veterans that it produces
18848s	uh just keeps continually continuously
18850s	growing um fraternity had an incredible
18852s	run last year they've got some
18854s	incredibly skilled Pilots um but so did
18856s	templis ciff these are these are two
18858s	recent winners of the alliance
18860s	tournament uh going to head to-head here
18861s	in the losers bracket which I think says
18863s	a lot about the state of the tournament
18865s	alt together and with that we're going
18866s	to send it to a quick break when we
18868s	return the desk we'll break that down
18869s	and bring us on the next match and we
18871s	will see you right after
18874s	this and welcome back from that first
18877s	elimination match in Alliance tour
18879s	tournament 20 uh the first people going
18881s	home are in fact tempas calu uh
18885s	fraternity managing to to scrape out a
18888s	win there they keep their dreams alive
18890s	the skin run begins now and someone's
18893s	happy someone is happy he he's been
18896s	redeemed uh I'm joined on the desk by
18899s	Starfleet commander and Wingnut cross
18901s	Starfleet how are you doing today I'm
18902s	good thank you for having me on here
18903s	it's been a long day been a fantastic
18905s	day lots of amazing matches including
18906s	the one we just saw incredible yeah and
18909s	Wingnut how are you as he said long day
18912s	very good day it's uh it's honestly been
18916s	great to watch it live for once yeah
18918s	getting you to see all the background
18919s	stuff and watching the absolute
18921s	beautiful chaos yeah yeah there's a lot
18923s	of people uh it takes a lot of people to
18925s	make a reduction like this uh not only
18927s	uh us obviously like the most important
18928s	people uh but all the rest of the people
18931s	who like do other things like clicking
18933s	buttons and setting up the stage setting
18935s	up all the uh the fancy lighting the
18938s	cameras the audio there a ton of people
18940s	to make this happen and uh you know
18942s	we're very grateful to have them uh
18944s	because honestly I mean first of all
18946s	let's just take a look at the set I it
18947s	looks amazing like we've got the swords
18949s	uh CB talked about them earlier we've
18951s	got this cool thing um this desk is
18953s	awesome there's a screen down there
18955s	which pretty cool uh so yeah but let's
18957s	talk about that last match so Starfleet
18960s	Commander what happened well we saw a
18963s	well it was actually kind of at the
18964s	beginning a bit close but then I feel
18966s	like tempers just fell apart they sort
18968s	of didn't really get hold on
18970s	fraternities uh ships and then
18972s	fraternities had a really good strong
18974s	core setup and they also broke through
18976s	really easily so they really had a good
18980s	start as well yeah I feel like the
18982s	amount of um screening on fraternity
18984s	side is worth worth calling out because
18986s	uh they were up against a rush comp uh
18988s	from templus and one of the things you
18990s	can do to defeat a rush comp is kind of
18992s	just tackle everybody and keep them all
18993s	spread out so they can't apply that DPS
18995s	on top of anything and you saw most of
18997s	the templers team got tackled all over
18999s	the place yeah it's super difficult as
19000s	well well the templers had two onxs as
19002s	well so they can also lock things down
19004s	but you're right for fraternities their
19005s	number one priority was to split up the
19008s	damage CU if it's all together tempus um
19011s	would have a much better chance of
19012s	breaking through fraternity yep and uh
19015s	how about you w what did you think of
19016s	that match there exactly what you said
19017s	there the whole thing about keeping it
19018s	all split at the start with most Rush
19020s	comps the first 30 seconds that we said
19021s	is what matters the most and that one
19023s	there immediately okay half the team's
19025s	tackled we can take our time still got
19027s	pretty close with that typhoon they got
19029s	definitely got a few brown pants moments
19031s	but they picked picked the backup kept
19032s	going and just destroyed him by the end
19034s	there I also feel like with these comps
19036s	uh especially for Fraternity what
19038s	Tempest do at the start is like
19040s	signaling what they're going to do in
19042s	that moment they need to have tackle
19043s	already assigned across their team to
19045s	get things on the go so if templus go in
19049s	frat need to be ready yep I mean
19051s	honestly it was very well executed by
19054s	honestly both teams executed pretty well
19056s	uh it just so happened that templers got
19057s	themselves kind of screened in awkward
19059s	position
19060s	even despite that they almost kind of
19061s	pulled it off and broke through that
19062s	typhoon I think if they broken that
19063s	typhoon it would have really started to
19065s	flip the other direction definitely
19066s	would open the game back up for sure
19068s	yeah I think not breaking through the
19069s	typhoon set them back and they probably
19072s	got a bit dishearted as well like when
19073s	the ship gets into half armor and he's
19075s	just not breaking you kind of sort of
19077s	second guessing they probably second
19078s	guessing like okay we need to change we
19080s	need to change our tactics right now but
19081s	fraternity just pushed through got
19083s	through the targets and had a good fight
19085s	and also it's really you know these two
19086s	teams you we've got to mention they're
19088s	both winners and they're in the losers
19090s	braet on the first day it's actually
19092s	incredible we hadity being 02 as the
19095s	previous tournament winers like that
19096s	would have been an insane change like
19097s	hey they won last year and they couldn't
19099s	even win a match this year but luckily
19100s	they're safe we're good that that's not
19102s	going to happen it was almost the case
19104s	of uh uh last out first in type thing
19107s	because um fraternity won last year and
19110s	then they would have been the first team
19111s	to go out the next year on the first
19112s	match of the day too by the way exactly
19114s	I mean I do think fraternity will still
19116s	go far in the tourament I think they're
19117s	going to go through the losers they are
19119s	team you saw to say both the teams there
19121s	are good players and they have really
19123s	good competition obviously shame for
19125s	last Bon you know for losing but they
19127s	are a good team as well so I think
19128s	fraternity will definitely go through
19129s	the losers and go really deep super deep
19131s	into the tournament yeah I think so too
19133s	and uh it's sad to see templers drop out
19135s	at this stage but they had a they had a
19137s	tough set of matchups like facing up
19140s	against fraternity um at this early
19142s	stage is already going to be quite tough
19145s	um and they also played Exodus earli on
19147s	that's how they lost let to check that
19148s	out so not only do you have to uh play
19151s	one of the best teams kind of in
19152s	tournament history in in Exodus with
19154s	some of the best pilots in the game you
19156s	then as your uh loser bracket match have
19158s	to go up against the defending Champions
19159s	yeah and that's probably what both teams
19162s	really realized earlier when they saw
19163s	the bracket are like right we need to
19164s	win this one and obviously X has got
19166s	through and temp oh God we got now
19168s	they're probably watching fraternity
19169s	thinking oh damn we got to play them now
19171s	so that's the thing when you look at the
19172s	brackets all the teams are are looking
19174s	ahead to make sure okay do we put our
19177s	flag on field because we don't want to
19178s	go to losers but but unfortunately for
19180s	templus they didn't get through did they
19182s	yeah they did not so but thank you very
19184s	much to templus uh for competing uh and
19186s	we hopefully we'll see you in other
19188s	tournaments again in the future it's
19189s	always nice to have you um uh but yeah
19191s	you can now sit back the goag is closed
19194s	you don't have to practice midweek you
19196s	can just sit on the couch watch other
19198s	people get stressed and then you can uh
19200s	type Lal don't want those skins anyway
19202s	when they when they say you're salty
19204s	like so you are fine now you can you can
19205s	go go to the pub go to bed whatever you
19207s	want that's a good point it is really it
19209s	actually really you know when you when
19210s	you're out you're kind of like it's over
19212s	that's fine anymore I didn't really care
19215s	I just I going to go get a drink man I'm
19216s	done it's very much like a Doby has
19218s	given Master a sock moment sometimes
19219s	like oh okay see you later I can go
19222s	outside now and actually watch it and
19224s	enjoy the tournament yeah wow it's it's
19226s	dark all of a sudden outside all the
19227s	trees were were green like last time I
19229s	was outside yeah it's amazing all right
19232s	next match another elimination match we
19233s	have two more matches today two more do
19235s	both elimination matches so more teams
19237s	are going to go home uh and join templus
19240s	in the garden party uh this match is
19242s	whole control versus Brave Collective so
19244s	let's take a look at the bands for whole
19246s	control versus Brave Collective whole
19248s	control choosing to ban out the Loki the
19250s	slepnir the Armageddon nav ISU and the
19252s	crucifier meanwhile Brave Collective
19254s	Banning Out The Jacka The orus the hyena
19257s	and the mollus starle commander what do
19259s	you make of these bands well Brave
19260s	obviously earlier today playing against
19262s	v vter um and brought two um G Navy
19265s	issues um so I would be interested to
19267s	see if they bring no again they've
19269s	banned the Jack door the orus as well
19271s	the high is really good super good
19273s	control figure we've seen that a lot
19274s	today being used to web down battleships
19276s	and keep them away obviously morus again
19278s	getting the damps as well I think Brave
19281s	signaling they might do the flagship I
19282s	think they might do it all in win or bin
19284s	I think so because if you're in this
19286s	position right now you just don't want
19287s	to go you know you don't you need to do
19289s	it to win this is your moment right you
19291s	got to send it and for whole control
19293s	they've banned lowkey slep near bit good
19295s	ships for those projection ham Rush is
19297s	kind of targeted for a bit like that
19298s	obviously the St there is obviously not
19299s	in ham rush but the Loki definitely is a
19302s	key part of a ham Rush setup and then
19304s	armagan Navy well then I don't think bra
19307s	are going to bring those are they no I
19308s	don't think so I think they'll be
19309s	difficult they could bring one if it's
19310s	their Flagship uh wng what do you think
19313s	about these bands jumping out at you
19314s	exactly what he said there some of it's
19316s	bit reactionary and it's going to be
19318s	curious to see what Brave is doing the
19320s	other team uh with h control I'm not
19322s	really sure but Brave is going to be
19323s	like what are what's their plan here now
19325s	especially you know some of the guys at
19326s	the backing praying that Brave has a
19329s	chance here I think Brave will do well I
19331s	think they' I think they've in even in
19333s	the match against vter they were really
19335s	play really well yeah honestly I mean I
19336s	got a bit I be like you know we're so
19339s	out and then we're so back at the end I
19341s	was like oh dear me but they I mean
19342s	Brave did really well and I actually
19344s	think they're actually a quite a solid
19345s	team yeah they are they have been a
19347s	solid team for a couple of years now
19348s	like kind of like a bit of a sleeper
19349s	team people kind of look at them go oh
19351s	Lau it's Brave you know uh what they're
19353s	going to do bring Atron and then they
19354s	turn up with a pretty solid comp they've
19356s	for years they've had a a very
19358s	aggressive good team basically and I
19361s	think they just got better and better so
19362s	the fact that they really pushed VTA
19364s	hard earlier on and for a few seconds
19367s	yeah I was I was I was on edge I was
19370s	like no Annie's got this he brought it
19372s	back and I was like he was going through
19373s	the five stages of griefing he was going
19375s	through really
19376s	aggressively I didn't want the L on my
19378s	head and I didn't want to have that one
19380s	it it's always fun watching these
19382s	matches like live here in the studio
19384s	when we have people from some of the
19385s	alliances uh like sitting watching them
19388s	get like two people getting like you
19389s	know really like ansy that their team's
19391s	going to win uh it's just part of the
19393s	fun thing about uh about being here and
19395s	doing these shows you get to watch
19396s	internet spaceships with a bunch of cool
19398s	people and uh when someone loses you get
19400s	to like laugh at them which is also fun
19402s	so that's part of the f I mean obviously
19404s	Misty CLE he must like fraternity he he
19407s	a little I think he do you think he
19408s	likes fraternity I think he does he's
19411s	not he's not what I call a gracious
19412s	winner though no he's really not ear
19415s	today he they lost he lost he was like
19417s	oh whatever yeah then want to talk about
19418s	it
19419s	about continue the day he was like more
19420s	skins for us and we're like yeah sure
19422s	and then the moment he wins then all of
19424s	a sudden ping straight to the top again
19426s	yeah very happy man one wondering around
19428s	there with these flag so all right I
19430s	think we're pretty much ready to go to
19431s	the arena so again this is elimination
19433s	match uh one of these teams will go home
19435s	uh we only have 31 teams remaining in
19437s	the allance tournament 20 we're going to
19439s	have to take that down to 29 before the
19441s	end of the night so we can crack on and
19443s	do that brave are bringing their
19445s	Flagship Balor for this match so let's
19447s	head into the arena for whole control
19449s	versus Brave
19451s	Collective yeah I
19454s	think welcome back to the arena minor fa
19456s	van joined by CC and with us on the
19458s	right side we have whole control who
19459s	have brought Shield Rush what have Brave
19461s	Collective brought Brave Collective have
19462s	brought their uh Flagship born as well
19465s	as two abadin uh for a triple Battleship
19467s	core uh lots of lasers very little uh
19471s	and and moderate
19472s	control yeah and we see uh whole control
19476s	have made the grave mistake of warping
19478s	their Rush at zero everyone except for
19480s	their ospr who who in at 50 uh Brave
19482s	though with that Flagship born are going
19485s	to try to string out this rush and
19488s	hopefully it works out better for them
19489s	than it did versus Volta uh once again
19492s	Flagship Bal Gorn we'll see uh how well
19495s	it goes this match uh that said this is
19498s	a ham Rush that doesn't have any command
19499s	ships in it we don't see a night clock
19501s	we don't a Nighthawk we don't see a
19503s	claymore uh we don't see a Loki or an
19505s	onx or anything like that so I'm
19506s	interested to see how this works out up
19509s	against the brave St comp and as we see
19511s	the rush comes in from tempas CA
19512s	immediately off the bat the webs Landing
19514s	onto uh an ABBA and a merer but right
19517s	now the fleet Cyclone Fleet cyclone and
19519s	navy Drake are all webbed down from
19520s	Whole control yep we can see that uh
19522s	damage from the uh uh uh the whole
19526s	control side is going out onto uh duj
19528s	wanai who is the captain in the abadin
19530s	as well as uh uh the the second Abad
19532s	they're just trying to kill that core
19534s	Brave didn't quite manage I think they
19536s	they might have came in a little bit too
19538s	close what they really needed to do was
19540s	use that uh Balor with the bonus webs to
19543s	hold this rush off but that has not
19545s	happened and the rush is right on top of
19546s	them right where they don't want them to
19548s	be yeah Brave primarying jeta and the
19550s	Drake Navy issue right now as duuk Wai
19552s	is into half armor jeta should be first
19554s	Blood of this match but once again that
19556s	ABBA going down not going to be a great
19558s	start for brave Collective the Drake
19559s	Navy issue Falls and now uh Brave in a
19563s	little bit of trouble doj one ey
19565s	currently sitting in about one3 armor
19567s	and they're onto the Cyclone Fleet issue
19568s	of dvesta yep if they can get that
19571s	Cyclone Fleet issue down it looks like
19572s	that abad's holding which is quite good
19574s	if that can Abad can hold the now uh
19578s	going to the deacons might be the right
19579s	choice they're probably making it's
19580s	probably a painful one they've they've
19581s	moved over because they didn't have the
19583s	damage to break anything else uh if they
19585s	lose a fleet cyclone and navy Drake for
19587s	a deacon however that is an incredible
19590s	trade for the brave Collective side yeah
19592s	this Cyclone Fleet isue getting
19593s	absolutely melted and as we saw uh even
19595s	the whole control was able to get on top
19597s	of one target that Target is isn't a
19599s	badon it is one of the tankiest ships
19600s	you can bring in any sort of at setup
19603s	and has the resist bonuses and with the
19605s	reactive even though we don't have any
19607s	damage lock ships outside of these Navy
19609s	osps uh can be really really difficult
19612s	to deal with for hole control without
19614s	proper coordination as we see they're
19615s	onto this next Fleet Cyclone as well and
19617s	brave Collective do you Che wany Staying
19619s	Alive even with the one Deacon of K
19621s	carnifex down uh this is the entire
19623s	highend of whole control being traded
19625s	for one Abba and that belor is nuding
19628s	them out uh pretty effectively that
19630s	Fleet Cyclone even though he was still
19631s	alive and is no longer uh wasn't doing a
19634s	whole lot uh during that period uh
19636s	they've now only got their their midline
19638s	which is not going to be enough I think
19640s	to break uh maybe they can finish off
19642s	this abaten but it's looking pretty bad
19644s	for whole control at this point Brave
19646s	has a dominating lead yeah Navy oppr of
19649s	to Able one currently the primary from
19651s	Brave Collective d one ey on the Abba
19653s	now into structure currently sitting at
19656s	66% structure remaining it will be a
19658s	Deacon and an ABBA for two Fleet
19660s	Cyclones a Navy Drake and an osprey Navy
19663s	issue duwai and the Abba continuing to
19665s	live but has already taken down one of
19668s	those ospy Navy issues and dwai still
19670s	hasn't died 5% structure remaining come
19673s	on you can maybe do it no the ABA goes
19675s	down but he's traded almost the entirety
19677s	of this ospr Navy issue of Hump uh for
19681s	it and uh when that ospray Navy issue
19683s	goes down it will just be the two cnis
19685s	for DPS uh from Whole control and the
19688s	brave Deacon of shivala doing absolute
19690s	hero work to keep him alive as long as
19692s	possible um shiala has taken a little
19695s	bit of damage but at this point uh maybe
19698s	maybe that last Deacon goes down kind of
19699s	a desperation play to remove what what
19702s	little uh repair Brave still has in the
19705s	field um but I don't think h control is
19707s	going to be able to do anything about
19709s	that flag Bal Gorn which is just going
19711s	to be utterly oppressive uh to the few
19714s	remaining medium missile Cruisers uh
19717s	it's not looking too good to whole
19718s	control at this point certainly so uh we
19721s	can talk a little bit uh more about this
19723s	uh start of the match I think uh right
19726s	you know you see a BAL Gorn warping in
19728s	behind the Abbas has these longrange
19730s	webs trying to wh down the whole control
19733s	side before they get on top of the Abba
19734s	they still did what went wrong for whole
19737s	control after they got on top of the
19740s	abadin uh so they they actually split
19743s	their damage so they were shooting both
19745s	AB badens at the same time um so they
19748s	they didn't managed to just like kill
19749s	one Target and move on to the second one
19752s	um so there was a little bit of split
19753s	damage going on here uh they were
19755s	probably also just kind of suffering
19757s	under the oppression of that born uh
19759s	they did get where they wanted to be so
19761s	in in this case uh they they got into
19764s	the right position but then just weren't
19766s	able to execute unfortunately uh I think
19768s	there might have been some some slightly
19771s	uh unclear Target calling maybe they
19773s	were hoping to punch through those uh uh
19775s	abadin a little bit faster um but uh
19779s	they they failed to kill them they moved
19780s	on to the deacons and at that point the
19782s	game was over because once you have to
19783s	start trying to kill those deacons with
19785s	your with your Rush comp uh your Rush
19788s	comp's not doing what a rush comp is
19789s	supposed to do which is to punch through
19791s	the big ships and ignore those logistic
19793s	frigs as you would hope and brave
19796s	Collective now finishing off this ospre
19798s	uh they will move on through the lower
19800s	bracket and face the loser of barcode
19804s	versus uh evasive maneuvering we'll see
19807s	how that plays out for them uh
19809s	unfortunately for whole control out they
19810s	are out 02 in the alliance tournament
19813s	and we will see them next year for
19815s	feeders but first we're going to take a
19818s	quick break when we return the desk will
19820s	break that down and bring us on the next
19821s	match so we will be right back after
19825s	this Brave Collective continuing their
19828s	skin run in Alliance tournament 20 as
19831s	they they take a win and eliminate whole
19833s	control uh who are in fact collapsed out
19836s	of this tournament uh there'll be no
19837s	more from them Starfleet commander tell
19840s	tell me about that last match well a
19841s	badens and a Bor and a flag B we kind of
19844s	expected the flag to come out like they
19846s	they the back of that you know they lose
19847s	bracket they have to show something good
19849s	but the abandons I think was actually a
19850s	good call up against a ham Rush which is
19853s	actually kind of looks a bit scary when
19854s	you come on grid and you got that much
19856s	damage facing you you kind of get a bit
19858s	they could break through obviously all
19861s	control tried to go through the bad but
19862s	just it just took too long didn't it
19864s	it's always the worst choice to go for a
19865s	bad first it's like even with a flag bar
19867s	the B is one of the tankiest things yeah
19870s	yep I found it interesting that I just
19871s	had to Quick Check of the twitch Channel
19873s	points um most of them were voted for
19876s	hul control hul control were were heavy
19878s	favorites in that match there they saw
19879s	the word brave newbies went oh they're
19881s	not going to win they're new players
19882s	like no hold on Braves been around for a
19884s	while they think they kind of know what
19885s	they're doing yeah I think this kind of
19886s	like highlights what we were talking
19887s	about just before the match like people
19889s	kind of sleep on Brave sometimes they
19890s	think that they you know it's Brave
19892s	newes they can't be that good right
19893s	they're just a bunch of newbies but no
19895s	they are actually solid tournament team
19896s	yep but we can't not I mean whole
19897s	controls comp was good it was good po
19900s	but that's what a flag B does though
19902s	right it was well thought out that it
19903s	was very coner they had all the 100 200
19906s	points strong DPS could definitely break
19909s	through I think if they if they brought
19910s	if if um let's say Brave brought a I
19913s	know T1 Battleship other than the Abad
19915s	maybe they brought a typhoon or
19916s	something or some other temp I they
19918s	would would have got through it was just
19919s	that the badden is so tanky and just
19922s	wasting so much time that brave had
19924s	enough time to get through and get the
19925s	ball noes to be effective cuz as We Know
19928s	the longer the game goes on the more
19930s	dangerous those become yep and of course
19932s	Flagship Bal Gorn um super powerful ship
19935s	like there was there was a period of
19937s	time where the flag Balor was basically
19939s	the number one choice um then in L room
19941s	17 it was removed from the list of
19943s	eligible um flagships um and of course
19947s	that was the year of the bar guest L 17
19949s	um great year there was a lot of bar lot
19952s	of bar guests and then uh this year
19954s	we've reopened up up the list and pretty
19956s	much it's only the the Widow and the
19958s	Marshal I think that you cannot pick as
19960s	your Flagship so sorry command I'm going
19962s	to ask you this one uh because you have
19965s	Captain teams before what is a flagship
19967s	why is a flagship important and what
19968s	does it mean well actually well the
19970s	flagship is it's important for many
19973s	reasons obiously the number one reason
19974s	is that you can fit uh faction modules
19976s	only certain faction modules so webs
19979s	tank modules and damage modules to be in
19981s	particular um not for the B you can't do
19983s	NES on the Balon then you can't fit
19984s	faction NES in the Balon so they still
19986s	have to be T2 but the we'll talk about
19987s	the Balon it's the web that matters for
19989s	that ship but the other important reason
19991s	as well it kind of defines you know when
19993s	you look at the flag uh list their
19996s	choice defines their kind of their
19998s	archar as well because that's what
19999s	they're prioritizing so when you see sh
20001s	teams have gni or again Navy issues they
20003s	got Balor they got gons they're going to
20005s	be their comps their good comps will
20008s	probably be focused around a control
20010s	setup or if you have bar guest or
20011s	something you might be thinking a more a
20013s	flexible Flagship cuz barers can be fit
20016s	with armor and can do Shield so the
20017s	number one thing is actually just the
20019s	modules and it makes them really strong
20022s	and uh what about things like Flagship
20024s	vindicators and stuff there's a lot of
20026s	ships available but like what what do
20028s	you think Drive teams other than that
20030s	sort of like fitting their style to pick
20032s	things like a Vindicator or um even a
20035s	varer for example the varer is an
20037s	interesting one CU that one kind of
20038s	breaks the mold The Vindicator let's
20039s	just kind of call it penis envy people
20041s	get a vindy like oh mate more damage I I
20043s	just get to go in the B is the best one
20045s	because of the ability of control it
20047s	provides the get as a Swiss army knife
20049s	or get Navy sorry Swiss army knife the
20052s	vager again very very weird it has the
20054s	potential to be one of the fastest most
20056s	aggressive ships on the field it also
20058s	has potential to die in about 5 seconds
20059s	flat if it gets engaged too quickly so
20061s	utility highs it's a it's a very
20063s	interesting ship even nonf flag shipped
20065s	on its own it could be interesting we
20067s	saw I think a double varaga comp I think
20068s	last year either an AG or at it was like
20071s	it was very very aggressive like huh and
20073s	they used it for the entire tournament
20074s	it was just really good and today we saw
20077s	hanzy babes the flag Vara absolutely
20079s	annih team really I mean I don't know
20082s	what's fit on it but it was good magic
20084s	magic I would say I mean the vindy is a
20086s	good they are good Flags in their own
20087s	right depending on the comp obviously we
20089s	see the balone we see the gon as as like
20092s	the the most common ones because usually
20094s	you pick a flag when it can utilize the
20096s	modules to the to the max the the B the
20099s	faction and Dead Space modules so yeah I
20101s	think it's going to be going forwards
20103s	we're going to have well this we saw VY
20106s	today didn't we yeah yes we saw flag it
20108s	won it did win yes it did win yeah yep
20111s	so one of the other cool things about
20113s	flagships um is obviously as Starfleet
20115s	mentioned uh you can fit them with uh
20116s	more than just Tech 2 normally um ships
20119s	can be fit with Tech 2 in the inst but
20121s	you can you can kind of pimp them uh but
20122s	also they can't be banned so you can ban
20124s	Dodge so uh let's just say I have a
20127s	flagship Armageddon Navy issue and uh I
20129s	want to bring three of them um I can do
20132s	andless you ban the armag Navy isue now
20134s	I cannot bring any of my armagedon Navy
20136s	isues except my Flagship that one cannot
20138s	be banned so I bring along at least one
20140s	and then I don't know like two other
20141s	ships just like maybe a band for example
20143s	that's also part of why the B kept
20144s	getting kicked as well cuz you could BS
20146s	are already pretty good obviously The
20147s	Bling makes them massively good but when
20150s	you when you can't ban it off you
20151s	basically got a free 50 km web every
20153s	match whenever you want to and it's very
20155s	hard to find a way around that for a lot
20156s	of comps C comps bra comps it's a very
20158s	big control as we saw earlier with the B
20160s	holding two BS off the entire match yep
20163s	and the other super interesting thing
20165s	about the way the flagship system works
20166s	is uh once your flag ship dies it's gone
20169s	for good uh so obviously this tournament
20171s	is taking place on Tranquility so these
20173s	kill Mills are all public uh we just we
20175s	teleport them all out to the magical
20177s	space area of Polaris uh where no one
20179s	can interfere with them we then uh run
20181s	the match and then we teleport them home
20182s	again but they is still on Tranquility
20184s	so these people are losing the ships
20186s	which have value this is why we see
20187s	these kill Mills like you know 70 odd
20189s	billion earlier on like that's gone and
20191s	not only is that just gone you can't
20194s	bring it again your Flagship once it is
20196s	dead it is dead so losing your Flagship
20199s	means that not only do you lose the
20200s	additional power that it brings but you
20202s	lose the ability to ban Dodge and
20204s	suddenly that will change the ban
20205s	strategies against you st that you've
20208s	been both sides of this it's definitely
20210s	I mean the flags it's mind games when it
20212s	comes to it because when you look at an
20213s	opponent you look at their flag and you
20214s	definitely ban with that in mind because
20216s	you have to have an awareness that like
20219s	you said they can always bring that ship
20220s	I mean in the past you know we always
20222s	try and we can we have in the past tried
20225s	to steer people to use their flag and
20228s	then lose
20230s	thaten but we move we moved on for that
20232s	one but I'd say I mean there are some
20234s	games uh in the tournament where people
20236s	try and get them to field it and then
20237s	try and specifically kill their Flagship
20239s	if it's a best of for example they the
20241s	tournament but I'd say in a flag yeah
20245s	the Bal gor I think is is probably the
20247s	the strongest one at the moment yeah I
20249s	mean I I still like the Bargas for the
20251s	flexibility the baras obviously uh my
20253s	team obviously vter the one I am in the
20256s	Cooperative uh they've obviously dgist
20258s	but I'm seeing a lot of Bon as well and
20261s	a lot of gons and a lot of again Navy
20263s	issues a lot of NES flying around
20265s	exactly which can be a bit dicey for a
20267s	kitey comp for of a baras the baras is a
20269s	special ship for sure but I feel like
20271s	yeah BS and gons around you it's like
20273s	you're being surrounded by things that
20274s	would love to kill you we have a couple
20276s	of vindicators and uh two L Shacks as
20279s	well two L Shacks yeah two L Shack
20281s	flagships in here wow brght head of
20283s	death and evasive maneuvering both
20285s	choosing the Shacks is it one of them
20286s	out now no uh one of them lost a match
20289s	earlier on Oh I thought that was their
20291s	lost match my bad yeah but uh hopefully
20293s	they bring him then cuz flag Shacks are
20295s	definitely going to be a curious one
20296s	yeah the shack used to be one of the the
20300s	most important battleships in the
20301s	tournament when they when they got first
20302s	introduced didn't they they were
20303s	literally every game yeah everywhere
20305s	it's like how many l Shacks can I breing
20307s	today well you could the good thing
20308s	about L Shack is that if it's pimped
20310s	correctly you can literally put it on
20312s	something and it will die eventually it
20313s	will die there's no way it's going to
20315s	tank it will just die the number just
20316s	keeps getting bigger until the enemy
20318s	stops existing uh and that's it like
20320s	they were super good it it is very
20322s	expensive points wise it's one of the
20323s	most expensive ships in the whole
20324s	tournament um it has a lot of utility it
20327s	has a lot of that big damage especially
20329s	it's great if you come across a a a comp
20332s	where the enemy team has battleships
20334s	because you can spill on them for ages
20335s	not great against things like medium gun
20337s	spam because you're going to have to
20338s	change targets a lot more often but it
20339s	still has a lot of ver uh versatility uh
20342s	but I really like the the current
20344s	Flagship setup like we've got quite a
20346s	good variety it's actually more variety
20348s	than we had last year as well which is
20349s	very good to see exactly that's really I
20350s	think that's really important as well
20351s	that's a good sign that some teams are
20353s	doing different things if they' not
20355s	choose if everyone's not doing borns
20357s	it's good because then people have
20358s	different ideas and we get more
20359s	interesting matches yep all right we
20362s	have uh one more match for the day it'll
20364s	be our final match of the day another
20365s	elimination match and we just spoke
20367s	about um one of these teams uh I
20370s	mentioned that uh bright side of death
20372s	yep had aack just double check that they
20375s	are one of the two teams that we're
20376s	about to see so right side of death
20378s	going up against genin impact Alliance
20380s	uh reminder genin impact Alliance uh
20383s	they lost earlier on 1 nil uh because
20386s	nobody died in the entire match we can't
20388s	read
20389s	yeah commentary ever and uh but they
20392s	just brought 199 points genin impact so
20395s	uh they lost by one point because they
20398s	didn't spend one point someone didn't do
20399s	some math somewhere like it's a it's a
20401s	decision the one time where a $1.99
20404s	matters yeah pretty much always have 200
20407s	points
20408s	they learned always for this exact
20410s	reason always bring 200 points so bright
20413s	side death versus gench and impact
20414s	Alliance bright side again really
20416s	experienced team uh so very interested
20418s	to see what goes on here um the band for
20421s	this matchup bright side of death
20422s	Banning out the zaraz the slep the
20425s	Armageddon uh the Widow and the Sentinel
20428s	gen an impact B out the EOS the slep the
20430s	Loki the Hena and the Widow now if
20433s	memory servs me correct the only team
20434s	that have actually brought a widow so
20437s	far
20438s	have one with it yes okay so that's
20440s	interesting and I know bright side of
20441s	death uh they are Widow enjoyers uh so I
20445s	would I'm not surprised by the ban from
20447s	genjin Impact Alliance I'm interested
20448s	the fact that bre of death have band it
20450s	makes me think that they practice a lot
20452s	with other teams that used the Widow and
20454s	they saw it earlier on and they're like
20455s	hm please no no thank you and also the
20457s	first set they both band slept there and
20459s	they got both got a Jeep right in the
20461s	first set of bands which also isn't when
20463s	people ban the same shits like okay are
20465s	they thinking about the same thing and
20467s	yeah' got Widow and slept slept it's
20468s	kind of like are they going to bring
20470s	airor that's what I think or again I
20473s	think Beast will do the flag it's it's
20475s	the losers moment you just do it you
20478s	have to ban for it but slap it on the
20480s	table go for it yeah I mean it's it's
20482s	wor noting that um the top 16 of this
20485s	top 32 all get prize ships yeah like you
20488s	only have to basically win two games in
20490s	the winners bracket and you're
20491s	automatically into the prize ship
20492s	territory and for the first time in
20494s	nearly 20 years there are prize
20496s	battleships that
20498s	we have FR Weis like normal and we have
20501s	a and byting top 16 you will get at
20504s	least one bhip for your team a Alliance
20507s	tournament prize Battleship they look
20509s	gorgeous they look amazing they're
20510s	absolutely beautiful they're pretty cool
20513s	but they're going to be even if you
20514s	don't want to use it they are going to
20515s	be worth an absolute Fortune so let's
20516s	just say you get top 16 you win these
20518s	ships you can sell them and split the
20520s	proceeds between all your members and
20521s	all be very happy so this is going to be
20524s	I think a bit of a bloodfest as well um
20526s	there I've just been called both teams
20529s	Fielding flagships so we have a flagship
20533s	Armageddon Aviation with his bonus NES
20534s	going up against a flagship lash Shack
20536s	with its spilly boy weapons that doesn't
20538s	like NES it doesn't like NES I think the
20541s	Le could do it the Le could do it flag
20544s	Le could do it it wants to be at zero it
20546s	wants to be at zero oh do it all warp in
20548s	at zero let's go straight in at zero
20551s	brawl I'm going to give it to Visa I
20553s	think this one I think they're going to
20554s	do L I think they're going to obviously
20556s	they're probably will at 30 but I
20558s	think if that Les gets on the battleship
20561s	it's going to die I think so too I think
20564s	that no chance I think a flagship L
20566s	Shack with those extra DPS the extra
20569s	tank the extra utility it's going on NES
20571s	as well um so it's it's a lot of
20574s	pressure yeah it's it's I mean like we
20575s	said it's a lot of points but it could
20577s	be deadly um and you know that number is
20580s	just going to spool and that's possibly
20582s	why there's a Zoras ban from Bright Side
20584s	to death yes because um that obviously
20587s	has the SPO rep and that's probably one
20588s	of the only things that could counter a
20592s	so oh God I'm so smart sometimes you
20594s	should be an to you should be you should
20596s	be an honest no that sounds way too
20598s	difficult all right let's head over to
20600s	the UN for our final match of the day
20602s	our elimination match between bright
20603s	side of death and genin impact
20607s	allance welcome back for the last match
20610s	of the day we have bright side of death
20612s	versus uh genin impact Alliance in the
20615s	losers bracket the loser of this match
20617s	will leave the tournament and it looks
20619s	like both Fields have uh both teams have
20621s	fielded their flagships do you want to
20623s	talk about what flagships they've
20624s	brought krilo of right side of death has
20626s	brought a lasack they're one of two
20628s	teams that have brought lasack as their
20629s	Flagship the other being evasive
20631s	maneuvering who we will see more of
20633s	facing barcode tomorrow uh that said
20636s	genjin impact Alliance bringing the
20638s	flagship uh Navy Armageddon and that is
20641s	being piloted by sailor uh we see
20644s	another uh King Slayer Plus control
20647s	match up with dual arbitrators and a
20649s	celestus up against the lasack armor
20652s	control setup with a kitson who might
20654s	make the cestus and arbitrators a very
20656s	bad day and actually the mollus wins The
20658s	Damp War over the celestus off the start
20660s	so what this is going to come down to
20662s	the uh um the there's a lot of there's a
20665s	lot writing on that lesack being able to
20667s	apply damage he needs to be able to get
20669s	that t uh get that um disintegrator on a
20672s	Target and it needs to be able to leave
20673s	it there the uh the gench and impact
20676s	Alliance however they're set up to
20678s	prevent that from happening so those two
20680s	arbitrators do you want to talk about
20681s	what they're going to do to that lushack
20682s	they're going to make the lak's range
20684s	basically none lasack cannot spool on
20687s	somebody unless uh they are within range
20691s	of the entropic disintegrator so the
20693s	arbitrators as we see are completely and
20696s	only tracking disrupting the lasack
20698s	because if the lak can't spool lasack
20699s	can't kill their ever precious Flagship
20701s	couple more TCS going on the Redeemer
20703s	but uh obviously as Kuro gets closer and
20705s	wants to start spooling
20707s	uh they're going to try to keep that gun
20710s	from going on to their Flagship night
20713s	again because really it is a flag V flag
20715s	uh bout here uh both teams just want to
20718s	kill the other team's Flagship and then
20719s	Snowball the match after that we see
20721s	damage going onto kico in the leack uh
20724s	to start it's not a lot they're not
20725s	really scratching those she the that
20727s	armor however it looks like they're
20728s	swapping over to the vexer of kinaru
20730s	we'll see if he takes a little bit more
20732s	damage on that bright side of death team
20734s	the most critical ship to watch here is
20736s	going to be that kit
20738s	so look at where the jams are being
20739s	applied currently he's attempting to jam
20741s	out that celestus the kitsun is the key
20744s	ship here that will be able to try and
20746s	pull away some of that electronic
20748s	warfare um in order to uh open up uh the
20752s	game for that lak to actually be
20754s	effective uh however they have a lot of
20756s	it and so you need they'll be attempting
20758s	to uh damp out that kitsun so he can't
20762s	lock them and it's going to be a a game
20764s	of back and forth uh in order to figure
20766s	out who can who can actually control the
20768s	the field in terms of all of those
20769s	control modules and we see uh that kid
20772s	soon start to jam out the Navy armor
20775s	gons on the top or on the ash move from
20777s	get an impact Alliance uh both these
20779s	teams underp pointed so 199 versus
20782s	199 if somebody doesn't die we are going
20784s	to overtime for the first time uh but
20787s	for the time being uh you know really
20791s	not a whole lot of Applied damage has
20792s	been showing from either of these teams
20793s	we see the attack bar of both these
20795s	teams uh the red portion very very very
20797s	anemic uh as you know not only is the
20800s	trackon disruption from these dual
20801s	arbitrators but there's also missile
20803s	guidance disruption from this crucifier
20804s	fox pure which is keeping sailor the
20807s	flagship Navy Armageddon from really
20808s	applying at all as I say that though
20810s	snow kid fox has been tackled and
20813s	grappled he has uh We've we've seen that
20815s	Confessor just make a play kind of
20817s	diving in on that Armageddon Navy issue
20819s	of going the kidon going down however is
20822s	going to be crippling for that bright
20824s	side of death team because it's going to
20825s	leave that lak totally open to all the
20827s	control coming from the genin impact
20830s	side yeah and uh we saw scram web on
20833s	that Armageddon Navy issue he stabilized
20837s	he might have he might have outrun the
20838s	drones that were on him for for a moment
20840s	we'll see if he can he can keep
20842s	it yeah and uh still scram uh now snow
20846s	kit Fox so sailor was able to get out
20847s	from under uh the tackle that came in
20849s	from Bright Side of death as they're
20850s	trying to keep this kitson up and
20852s	there's the rep the kitson was looking
20854s	for this Confessor now scrammed webbed
20857s	and getting DPS they have a guardian the
20860s	most armor reps you can get out of a
20861s	ship not named B zarz and uh we're
20864s	seeing those armor reps start to apply
20865s	to that Confessor now but now they're
20867s	onto the Mages so genin impact Alliance
20869s	trying to get that Target switching
20871s	going for them oh the Mages is down
20872s	that's going to be pretty damaging that
20874s	is a lot of uh potential tank coming off
20876s	the field in a the next minute or so uh
20879s	for the bide te side um their Confessor
20883s	that had tackled the armagedon Navy was
20885s	uh kind of counter tackled and peeled
20888s	off he's currently dealing with quite a
20890s	lot of of threat however it looks like
20892s	the uh Logistics uh from the uh that
20895s	Guardian are keeping him quite safe and
20897s	stable uh they're currently switching
20899s	over to the Redeemer to poke and PR at
20901s	him we'll see if that damage amounts to
20903s	anything more and meanwhile there hasn't
20904s	been a whole lot coming out from the
20906s	side of bright side of death uh this
20908s	lasack has just been absolutely useless
20910s	it's scrammed it cannot hit anything if
20913s	it hits a wrecking shot it will one-hot
20915s	it but uh at the moment just completely
20919s	scrammed out of the fight and stopped by
20920s	the arbitrators really applying any DPS
20922s	we now see all of those tracking
20924s	disruptors onto the Little Shack as the
20925s	Redeemer is scrammed and webbed and now
20927s	the primary from gench Impact Alliance
20929s	the track disruptor is not going to do a
20930s	whole lot with a pulse laser uh that is
20934s	at zero on you yeah that leack is not
20936s	applying damage to anyone right now if
20938s	you look at him at a closeup he has no
20941s	uh disintegrator going out which is very
20942s	damaging because most of the DPS output
20945s	from the bide team is going to be in
20947s	that besid as now uh their their vexor
20950s	of kinu is now taking some damage hold
20953s	on hold on they got a jam they they did
20956s	they get a jam I was like they they must
20959s	have got a jam on the TCS because now
20961s	the Navy armor getting of Sailor is
20962s	actually taking damage and quite a lot
20964s	of it I don't see any ECM currently
20967s	applied that kit soon is quite a ways
20969s	out it looks like he he might have
20971s	outrange himself in order to to catch
20973s	some damage the only effect coming out
20975s	from him or there's no effects out from
20977s	him just reps coming in from his yes so
20979s	the redeemer's right on top of Sailor
20981s	trying to get those NES out onto uh that
20984s	Navy arvon um has him grappled and there
20988s	are reps and the guid disruptions here
20990s	her and the lushack meanwhile uh webbed
20993s	up currently not tackled I'm taking a
20995s	look at where his ship is positioned uh
20997s	he's currently diving back towards the
20999s	backline these arbitrators are actually
21001s	dangerously close to this little Shack
21003s	right now uh they are that last Shack
21007s	however is still not shooting anything
21009s	so he seems to be having a pretty rough
21010s	day uh there are no disintegrated beams
21013s	at least visible uh from my screen going
21015s	out to any Targets on the other side so
21018s	they might be close but he is completely
21020s	invalidated currently yeah but even then
21023s	right uh sailor and the Gen Navy 70%
21025s	armor remaining uh the Redeemer just
21028s	currently trying to solo uh this
21031s	Flagship genon Navy um the only ship
21034s	that's died this far is Maes we have 3
21035s	and a half seconds or minutes remaining
21038s	in the match and the Reps have come out
21040s	from skyart in this Guardian pretty
21041s	effectively as I say that though the
21043s	Redeemer is now starting to take damage
21045s	from these dual armor get Navy issues
21046s	they're going to try to clip through
21047s	them but it's going to be very very
21049s	tight uh this Redeemer currently sitting
21051s	41% armor and getting those full
21053s	Guardian reps meanwhile kico and lasack
21055s	we're taking a look at him once again
21058s	where is he he is currently sitting on
21060s	the mjd beacon in the center of the
21062s	Arena those deacons for the uh genin
21065s	impact side uh pretty far out they are
21068s	kind of swinging in to put some oh the M
21071s	gets deleted goodbye mollus those
21074s	deacons are getting uh back closer
21075s	however to kind of put some repair on
21077s	that armagedon Navy issue that redeemer
21080s	is doing a lot of work with the lhack
21081s	effectively out of the game still he's
21083s	currently scrammed in the backline uh
21085s	quite far away from the rest of the
21086s	fight that is very unfortunate
21088s	positioning for him to try and do much
21090s	from yeah the shack currently webbed
21094s	right now trying to burn in towards uh
21098s	that Armageddon Navy issue that is
21099s	currently tackled the Redeemer living
21101s	through the clips of those gedon navies
21103s	for the time being uh sailor currently
21106s	uh sitting uh at 61% Armor remaining the
21110s	slack continues to burn in we have about
21112s	two minutes left in the match if this L
21113s	Shack isn't screened if he gets right on
21116s	top of Sailor this could end up being
21120s	much more
21121s	interesting than I initially thought he
21124s	is slowly creeping closer but boy he is
21126s	moving really really slow so that lak is
21128s	currently only going 299 me/ second so
21131s	for most a players that's going to be a
21133s	pretty pretty modest crawl uh getting up
21136s	to 300 now saw mjd wait hold on uh one
21141s	of these armag got Navy issues actually
21143s	mjd on the backside and is now rushing
21146s	in towards this
21148s	Guardian oh if they can get that
21150s	Guardian that could allow them to punch
21152s	through oh the vexer of kinaru has gone
21154s	down now as well that's going to be a
21155s	few less rep Bots out on the field
21157s	uh and a little bit less uh range of
21159s	control and Tackle which is going to
21161s	hurt uh continue to hurt that uh bright
21164s	side of death team yeah bright side of
21167s	death just hasn't been able to kill
21168s	anything because the Little Shack has
21169s	been completely neutralized but now is
21171s	almost at zero on top of this Armageddon
21175s	Navy issue this kits uh has jams out
21178s	Only onto the Armageddon Navy issue
21180s	sailor right now we have a minute
21181s	remaining in the match uh ul and
21183s	redeemer is currently sitting very low
21185s	armor and krilo leack I still don't see
21188s	any disintegration Rays why bring uh why
21191s	why spend all of these points on a leack
21193s	that you're not going to oh wait no we
21195s	finally have spool congratulations leek
21197s	has entered the match with 50 seconds to
21199s	to go um However unfortunately his
21202s	partner the Redeemer which has been
21203s	doing most of the work thus far is in
21206s	hole and it looks like that redeemer is
21207s	about to go down very low structure uh
21210s	27% structure remaining the guardian
21212s	trying to keep the Redeemer repped up as
21214s	best as he can if this Redeemer goes
21216s	down then does not matter if killo ends
21218s	up killing the flagship naon and in fact
21221s	the crucifier goes down the Redeemer
21222s	goes down we have 24 seconds remaining
21224s	and bright side of je just could not get
21227s	this comp working versus genin impact
21229s	Alliance yeah that that leack was was
21232s	the absolute Lynch pin of this comp it
21234s	is their Flagship it's got a ton of
21235s	damage and it just did nothing um it is
21239s	it's very unfortunate for bright side of
21241s	death I imagine that if they hadn't
21243s	faced so much control maybe they would
21245s	have been able to execute a little bit
21246s	more uh but he was just webbed down out
21248s	of range damped down uh tracking
21251s	disrupted there was almost nothing that
21253s	he could do yeah pretty unfortunate for
21255s	the Travian ship but that is all for
21258s	this match bright side of death being
21259s	knocked out 02 out of the alliance
21262s	tournament gench impact Alliance now
21265s	moving on to face uh a team from the
21268s	start of tomorrow in the lower bracket
21271s	all that being said though my name's
21273s	been fana that's been CCP Aurora we will
21275s	see you tomorrow after this break and
21278s	after the desk we'll be right back after
21282s	this and there you have it bright side
21284s	of death is the next victim of Alliance
21286s	tournament 20 they are dunzo um what
21289s	happened there is they brought their
21290s	Flagship lck uh completely forgot to
21293s	Banner any form of tracking disruption
21295s	oh n um and got tracking disrupted to
21298s	heck and back uh we did a quick Piper um
21301s	timal range with uh maon uh 6.9 km so uh
21306s	functional right he wasn't really doing
21308s	much and he also didn't go anywhere yeah
21310s	he just spent the he he tried to go away
21313s	and then come back he was just literally
21315s	locked in too far away and actually it's
21317s	it must been frustrating for him I got
21319s	to say that's probably the saddest
21320s	flagless Shack I think we've ever seen
21322s	in a tournament match like you've got
21324s	all the tool like the world did your
21325s	fingertips and it's just that far away
21328s	he was just looking at the big number in
21329s	Piper with like the sad violin music
21331s	playing in the background like how much
21333s	damage I could have done if I had been
21335s	able to hit we did say it before well
21337s	you actually said the Fantastic analyst
21339s	of that you are that they were sort of
21341s	signaling that they were going to bring
21342s	the Les and I'm surprised that why
21344s	didn't they just ban some any any any
21348s	anything they did the Sentinal did they
21350s	which isn't enough they s and the
21353s	arbitrator is still open which is
21354s	obviously going to be used a lot so I'm
21356s	surprised is a good old crucifier like a
21357s	little cheap boy just being a real ruin
21359s	of your day the wle band does make sense
21360s	now because you don't want your your Le
21362s	get jammed um but I'm pretty sure a flag
21365s	the shat could have just killed Widow
21367s	anyway so I don't think that really good
21369s	gon also maybe that's the one that you
21370s	drop out and you start sticking in
21372s	Pilgrim curse arbitrator that kind of
21374s	stuff that's where I do at least oh well
21377s	could have should have would have try
21378s	again next time um all right that was
21379s	our last match uh of the day uh we are
21382s	back tomorrow uh 1500 um Eve time for
21386s	more spaceship explosions it's been
21387s	plenty today um plenty of great ones
21389s	some some great upsets we've already
21391s	lost a couple of like pretty Powerhouse
21392s	teams both Bry of death and Tempest are
21395s	already gone just like gone straight out
21397s	the door bang did not expect tempis did
21400s	not expect this at all we we had some
21402s	great matches we had uh the VA to Brave
21404s	match was a great one uh we had our 1-
21406s	nil match that was one of my favorites
21408s	uh we had some great examples of
21409s	piloting and of course some some
21410s	terrible mistakes that people will be
21412s	reviewing overnight and getting ready
21414s	for matches tomorrow so do come back
21416s	tomorrow uh 1500 uh we will be here
21419s	waiting for you uh until then uh I've
21421s	been CP overload uh there's a whole host
21423s	of other people here uh they all say
21424s	thank you as well see you tomorrow Co

Alliance Tournament XX | Day 1

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