[2022] Alliance Tournament XVIII - Tribal Trials Day 4 | EVE Online Dev Tracker

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0s	foreign
33s	to the final day of the alliance turn 18
36s	Minar Republic trials where we have six
40s	teams competing for just one slot
43s	available in Alliance tournament 18.
45s	that's right just one slot 31 teams have
48s	been confirmed five of them so six of
51s	them yesterday uh in the various tribes
54s	who took the the number one positions in
56s	each of those tribes the second place
58s	fell to today and we have one final
60s	group round followed by a playoff for
63s	that one remaining slot and we have a
67s	series of fantastic teams today to show
70s	you we have we form blob we have
72s	percussive pizza time diplomacy we have
75s	Odin's call we have the ancient we have
77s	laser Hawks and we have kitchen sinkhole
80s	who amongst them will be strong enough
82s	to beat off all of those other strong
85s	com competent teams and take that one
88s	last remaining slot in a line term 18.
92s	I'm joined on the desk by jintan and
94s	Alexia Carter how are you guys today
97s	gentan who do you think is going to make
99s	it through
99s	oh man that's a really hard call there
102s	are some there are some obvious
103s	candidates in here but personally I'm re
105s	I'm rooting for pizza or Picasso Pizza
107s	Time diplomacy as their full very much
110s	of a mouthful name uh is uh they've
113s	really impressed me with some of their
114s	matches going through the brackets so
116s	far and they lost in an absolute nail
119s	biter of a match going up against the
122s	equally uh auspiciously named hidden
125s	Leaf ninja Villages assassin Squad
128s	Esports or however the hell their name
131s	is uh
133s	ninjas as we call them
135s	yeah uh and you know I I they were
138s	probably one or two one or two heated
140s	shots or dropping their rep Bots you
142s	know two or three two or three seconds
144s	earlier away from winning that match so
146s	it'll be really exciting to see if they
148s	can redeem themselves in this Redemption
150s	bracket
152s	Alex nice to see you uh finally we get
155s	to see your face we've heard your uh
156s	your sultry tones commentating some of
158s	the matches over the the last two
159s	weekends who are you looking forward to
161s	seeing today
163s	well I think percussive Pizza Time
165s	diplomacy is a great pick there's also
167s	Odin's call which has a tremendous
169s	tournament pedigree somehow they're here
171s	in the Redemption bracket instead of
173s	just sailing straight through so I think
175s	every team in the Redemption bracket has
177s	to be shaking a little bit looking at
178s	them and they're on the other side of
180s	the field but uh I'm also say kitchen
183s	sinkhole could surprise us
186s	yeah wooden's called dropped yesterday
187s	to Bright Side of death who advanced
190s	Alliance room in 18 uh very much against
192s	what uh everyone seemed to expect uh
195s	twitch lost thousands of Channel points
197s	on that one everyone betting on Odin's
199s	call a strong tournament favorite
202s	um we're about to go into match one
203s	actually where we will see Odin's call
204s	once again we form blob uh the team that
207s	will take them on they are Banning out
209s	the barges and the lecheck whereas
211s	Odin's call Banning the near and
213s	the Loki this is quite important this is
215s	a group stage so you want to have the
217s	best record to make sure you advance six
219s	will become four will become two will
221s	become one and this is the first match
223s	to decide those uh those medium four
226s	it's gonna be we Farm blob versus Odin's
228s	call so let's head over to the arena
230s	with the casters Wingnut cross and
232s	Ithaca Hawk
240s	Arena
244s	I am Ithaca Hawk uh joined once again by
247s	Wingnut cross uh for this fantastic
249s	matchup between we4 on blob and Odin's
252s	call and immediately I am excited uh
255s	we're gonna I see a Vindicator and two
257s	Fleet Tempest here on the blob side that
259s	is going to be a huge amount of damage
261s	and control for that team uh that the uh
264s	ozans call guys are gonna have to get
266s	ready but they have a balcon and also
267s	two Fleet tempests what do you think is
268s	going to happen here
269s	that's an interesting call bringing the
271s	venue with the Tempest flights the
272s	Battleground provides control whereas
273s	the indicator provides close range DPS
275s	Tempest doesn't need to be close to
276s	shoot so it's interesting copy if that
279s	vendor gets on top that bow is going to
280s	make him suffer but that is still extra
282s	DPS that could turn the tide we'll just
284s	keep an eye on the uh Chris fire in the
285s	back as well as the celestes for the
287s	opposing side so there is an ewall uh
289s	angle going on here as well
292s	yeah the molar and the uh The Vindicator
295s	for blob warped in at zero as absolute
298s	Chads and are immediately burning
300s	straight towards the Odin's call team
301s	trying to get tackle on it and it looks
303s	like the Vengeance turning around
304s	burning away going back to try and get
306s	wrecked before he gets Giga dunked but
308s	uh Captain is getting hit pretty hard
311s	burning into a uh balgar and two Fleet
314s	Tempest here
315s	Yeah the more will try going after the
317s	tackle and actually count screen off by
319s	the opposing more so that's uh not going
321s	well from but Tempest leaks are charging
322s	are they shooting you think looks like
323s	they're going for a tempest Fleet
324s	headshot okay
326s	they want to get rid of the beginning
328s	we see the molar of blob about to go
330s	down he's about to hit armor sorry Hull
332s	and that's going to be a big big loss
334s	That's Heavy tackle for that team that
336s	could be removed from the field
337s	meanwhile though trading it for a fleet
339s	Tempest that would be very very worth it
341s	if they can do so if they can take that
342s	out of Odin's car that's a massive chunk
343s	of their damage move from the field
345s	starting to hold it yeah that model is
346s	tanking Captain two bun tanking now so
348s	the deacons of Kane andris getting in
351s	there getting into range and putting
352s	their reps on that molar bringing them
354s	back up still a bit of a steal meat as
356s	both teams are just struggling to get
357s	position and Tackle your full wave of
359s	drones on them as well that molar is
360s	safe and now that Tempest Fleet is held
362s	down but I believe both other Temple
364s	splits and the uh Vindicator
367s	either way yeah he's held down
369s	now it's going to be a race and look at
370s	that immediately they know that there's
371s	going to be a race now go for Jack
373s	doorbell try and break through one of
374s	the battleships looks like they're going
375s	for a more trying to get them off of one
377s	of their targets
378s	yeah they're all turning around uh you
380s	can see the fleet Tempest there of uh
381s	Elias burning back towards that molar to
384s	try and take him down and they've done
385s	it so one molar down and unfortunately
387s	for Odin's call it is their Mauler
389s	meanwhile the Muller of uh we Farm blob
391s	is happily back up 100 armor the fleet
394s	Tempest of Jack taking a little bit of
396s	damage but I don't think he's that
397s	concerned there's he has tackled uh but
399s	if those deacons can keep him alive long
401s	enough for them to take out Colonel
403s	carts then they're going to be in a
404s	really good position yeah so the mall
405s	that went down was actually uh smart
407s	bombing off the rep drones I believe on
408s	the friendly more and I think it was
409s	actually might be smart buying a smart
411s	bombing of three friendly ones off as
412s	well but now Jack the well is getting
413s	very low temperature might come back to
416s	you like that turn around might actually
417s	cost them the match Temperance Fleet is
419s	just holding on but I think next
420s	volley's gonna push him through hull
422s	there it is oh yeah look he's dropping
424s	he's dropping through hull Fleet
426s	tempests are taking a lot of damage one
428s	going into armor one into Hull that is
429s	not good that's that um uh balgar and
432s	slowly starting to do some work probably
434s	on those deacons we see some newts
435s	landing on it we see some newts in The
437s	Vindicator that Vindicator is very
439s	susceptible to getting muted out and
440s	then just not being able to apply any
441s	damage Jack darville about to go down
446s	one Fleet temp is down not a good
448s	position for we form blob right now
449s	they've taken out the Muller but they
451s	need to get down this Fleet tempers of
452s	Kernel cards if they want to have a
454s	chance of stabilizing
455s	yeah part of the problem as well is that
457s	half their DPS now is in The Vindicator
458s	which can absolutely be neutered off by
460s	the balgoin whatever he decides to which
462s	can definitely cut alert their DPS so
463s	while they still have a lot left that's
465s	going to start becoming a problem as you
466s	see look at the rep drones on the
468s	Tempest Fleet of uh Colonel Kurtz there
470s	is just so many reptiles mediums Heavies
472s	they're all there
474s	yeah I'm just looking at this Vindicator
476s	right now his guns are just not firing
478s	oh he just fire around off he's clearly
480s	clearly struggling for capacitor right
482s	now you can in that balgar and just
484s	applying all those heavy engine
486s	utilizers straight to the face of that
487s	Vindicator and turning him into a 23
489s	Point hole in that we form blob team
492s	this Fleet Tempest is about to go down
494s	as well once that's down sure if
496s	indicator can do a lot of damage but if
498s	he doesn't have any capacitor he's not
499s	going to apply any of it
501s	yeah meanwhile I think in the
502s	background's keeping an eye on stuff um
504s	where is that Vengeance vengeance is
505s	getting a primary as well and I'm not
507s	sure what he's getting shot by the
508s	people I've got maybe the Confessor I'm
510s	not seeing anything else shooting him at
511s	the moment
512s	yeah
515s	the moment I would say Odin's call are
517s	in a very commanding position none of
519s	their ships are even into armor right
520s	now the Reps coming from the the tally
523s	and the Deacon uh onto the street
525s	Tempest of Colonel carts are happily
527s	stabilizing them from the damage coming
529s	from essentially one Fleet Tempest right
531s	now that Vindicator has been neutralized
533s	completely from 30 MS he is new to his
536s	guns aren't firing he's just basically
538s	it's just basically a bunch of ehp ready
541s	to die at this point
543s	yeah unfortunately I think that turn
544s	around for the more what they might have
546s	considered it necessary is going to be
547s	the thing that cost them here they just
549s	don't have they didn't have the DPS when
550s	they needed it and now they're pretty
551s	much behind the uh the eight ball here
553s	again constantly taken out by the notes
556s	it's really interesting because this is
558s	two very very similar comps do you think
560s	if we'd had a bag on the blob side this
563s	would have been different it would have
564s	been a bit of a new war
567s	um
568s	maybe because it changes the whole
570s	dynamic the Belgium provides control
571s	whereas The Vindicator provides DPS and
573s	close control so definitely will be a
575s	very different match but that means like
577s	I don't know which way it would go to be
578s	perfectly honest that could everything
580s	could get flipped honestly I'm surprised
582s	there's not a single smart bomb on this
584s	a team to try and maybe remove these rip
586s	drones like neither team actually the
587s	more had smart bombs for Odin's cool but
589s	I'm not seeing any smart bombs anywhere
590s	else for a Bob here
594s	yeah I don't think there's much more
596s	they can do now that's that second fluke
597s	Tempest down and uh oh there's a
601s	crucifier as well so any e-war they had
604s	that was perhaps reducing the damage
605s	come from those Fleet Tempest has just
607s	been removed
608s	um the The Vindicator is dying pretty
609s	quickly this match is over for we form
612s	blob they're going to to lose this one
614s	basically 100 to five now
617s	um the the control except by that
619s	balgorn was just too much especially
621s	Against The Vindicator an incredibly cap
624s	dependent ship
626s	um just exactly great matchups
630s	this was not the uh the fleet to bring
632s	it into at all like the bad one this is
633s	why one of the reasons why the
634s	Battleground is a really good damn ship
635s	is because like that new control plus
637s	the extra web support as well just makes
639s	it a brutal thing diverse and as my
641s	favorite ship goes down it's
642s	yeah that's that's the end
645s	yeah we're uh somewhat surprised to see
648s	them in the the bracket today we
650s	expected them to get through yesterday
651s	but you know they dropped that match uh
653s	so this is them putting their their big
655s	boy pants on and coming with uh their
658s	their best comps trying to make sure
659s	they secure that final position in the
661s	last tournament 18. it is clean up now a
664s	couple of deacons the celesters the only
666s	Diamond ship really left probably is
667s	that Vengeance it's how like that molar
669s	is heavy tackle and newts maybe smart
671s	bombs uh so if this is uh if it's up to
674s	blob they're basically going to try and
676s	burn for the boundary at this point get
677s	this over with however that would be a
679s	bad idea because the tie Breakers are
681s	still in place so uh rust points are
683s	important here
686s	yeah I mean any team that read the rules
688s	would know that there's rust points
690s	which is used as a tiebreaker uh it
692s	looks like both these teams would have
694s	the same amount of rust points because
695s	they only brought two Fleet tempests
697s	each uh and that's it which I believe
699s	would be 40 rust points for each of
700s	these teams so they are tied uh in every
703s	way except the fact that Odin's called
705s	dunked on WE form blob
708s	I was actually just double checking like
710s	is there really not another membership
711s	that's not this is just like Tempest and
712s	nothing else I mean I'm a fan of the
714s	Tempest Hull but uh I'm surprised I
716s	didn't bring any other minotaurships
719s	yeah Celeste is a good choice uh to
722s	bring damps of course but if you're
724s	gonna brawl in with a ship like a
726s	Vindicator or tempests perhaps not the
728s	wisest you can use them to force people
731s	to brawl in against your brawling ships
733s	and if you brought a Vindicator that's
734s	clearly what you plan to do
736s	um but in this case maybe not the most
739s	useful ship
741s	yeah I'm curious to see what the
742s	analysts will say but personally I think
743s	they over committed a bit too much on
744s	the support there the celesters the
746s	crucifier there's no backup DPS set for
748s	their core whereas Odin's core has at
750s	least a Confessor and even drones from a
751s	vexer if need be so I believe that
753s	Vector is mostly using rep drones I
755s	think they just went too hard I'm like
756s	we need to support our battleships and
758s	went oh but uh uh we're gonna charge in
760s	but we've got to crucify
763s	yeah it was just a little bit
764s	unfortunate for them that they brought
765s	that Vindicator instead of a balgar and
767s	same points and everything and that
768s	balgarh was just you know the um the
772s	rock to the scissors here in this
774s	particular matchup but that's it 100 to
776s	five uh in the favor of Odin's call so
779s	with that let's head back to the studio
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842s	welcome back ladies and gentlemen uh to
844s	the desk reform blob dropping the first
846s	match to Odin's call uh Odin's called
849s	very strong team uh most of the casters
851s	expected them as mentioned to go through
853s	not even make it to this stage uh so you
856s	know we form blob having a lot to do in
859s	that first matchup here but this is a
860s	group stage uh they will have another
861s	match later on uh not the next match but
864s	the match after that where they go up
865s	against kitchen sinkhole so they're
867s	going to hope for a w there and to try
869s	and get through on some sort of tie
871s	break into the uh the intermediate stage
874s	jintan how is that match for you it
877s	looked like just tell you what do you
879s	think of that the difference between the
880s	balgar and The Vindicator and these two
882s	columns
883s	yeah so the Battleground and The
884s	Vindicator kind of fill very different
886s	roles the vindicate is there to kind of
888s	push you over the edge if you're facing
890s	some sort of Heavy Cruiser core or
893s	potentially as a counter to rush whereas
895s	the bowel gone is there for these kinds
898s	of
899s	um you know free Battleship control
901s	which is what we would generally call
902s	these setups from both teams for the
905s	mirror in that because in those kinds of
907s	games you're going to end up with a very
908s	slow very grindy positional based game
911s	and having a threat that can just deny
913s	you know a 30 kilometer sphere of area
916s	um which is where pretty much all your
918s	opponent ships are going to want to be
919s	gives you so much ability to grind out
923s	an advantage and eventually win in the
925s	late game as we saw in that as we saw in
928s	that match you know it did amazing work
930s	The Vindicator wasn't firing from pretty
932s	much three minutes in uh until the end
934s	of the match uh just due to the power of
936s	those vindicating Utes and the fact that
938s	it was able to use its webs to keep them
940s	out of position even after it's uh Brave
943s	uh screening Mala A4 sacrificed himself
946s	to give his team time to get into
947s	position for that
950s	yeah and Alec I wanted to ask you about
952s	something a bit more uh technical in the
954s	comps so we saw Odin's called bringing a
957s	Talia and a deacon Five Points each
960s	meanwhile blob bringing two Dickens the
963s	the way the rules work in uh in this
965s	tournament is if you bring duplicates of
967s	the same ship each of them increases uh
969s	by one point so those two deacons were
971s	six points each for 12 points total what
974s	do you think about the choice to spend
975s	12 points for two deacons versus 10
978s	points for Talia and a deacon
981s	I think it's a little bit questionable
982s	I've seen a number of teams do that over
984s	the course of the faders
986s	the Deacon and the Thalia are there
990s	different ships obviously they do have
991s	somewhat different strengths but they
994s	are not two points different from each
996s	other I don't really think there's much
998s	of a reason why you would want to bring
1000s	two deacons and pay those extra points
1002s	when you could just swap one of them for
1003s	a Thalia you're not losing a ton of rep
1005s	power you're not losing a ton of tank
1007s	and you can use those two points
1009s	elsewhere which is what Odin's did bring
1012s	a vexer instead of uh I forget about
1016s	vengeance I think it was
1018s	um yeah this gives you more more options
1021s	now it's entirely possible you can't
1023s	think of really what what to do with
1025s	those two points that it might not feel
1026s	like it matters but in a tournament like
1029s	this where the slightest ship uh
1031s	selection matters so greatly
1035s	why handicap yourself like that it's not
1038s	worth that two points
1041s	both teams bring in the celestis we
1044s	talked a lot about it during the the
1046s	match is a is a great way to control
1047s	range with the bonus stamps
1051s	um he pretty much you know must pick
1053s	type ship uh this year the The Damp
1055s	bonus ships do you think
1058s	um I don't think that the celesters is
1060s	specifically a must pick ship but I
1062s	think you want you know especially if
1063s	you're in a control setup like this you
1065s	need to have something to be able to
1067s	push you over the edge in The Damp War
1069s	uh you're gonna either look at a
1070s	celestis an armor Jack door
1073s	um or if you're really struggling for
1075s	points or carries or a mawless that can
1077s	just lock out your opponent's damp ship
1079s	because without that you're not going to
1081s	be able to really affect the game plan
1083s	that you want as the match continues uh
1086s	descriptive dance are just so so potent
1088s	they effectively have been part of the
1091s	reason why we haven't seen so many T2
1093s	Logistics uh during the Run of this
1095s	tournament so far and they're part you
1098s	know we speculated yesterday that
1099s	actually it's part of the reason why
1101s	we've seen these matches end so quickly
1103s	and with so many ships on both sides
1105s	dying although uh wasn't the case in
1107s	this match in particular
1110s	and Alec um if you're if you're a
1112s	captain of one of these teams and you
1114s	come in and you see you've brought this
1116s	brawl comp essentially and you see
1118s	across from you another roll comp like
1121s	what's what's your strategy to to out
1123s	brawl the other team
1127s	seems like the most effective strategy
1129s	is to headshot the enemy DPS
1132s	um you're kind of in a DPS race
1135s	and ignore the control as much as you
1138s	can
1139s	it's not always possible but if you're
1141s	going to be up close and personal those
1143s	damps wind up not mattering a ton you've
1145s	got to get in there and pull out the
1148s	linchpin of the enemy setup whatever
1150s	that main battleship is
1153s	if they were able to take out the
1154s	battleborn first instead of the fleet
1156s	Tempest I think that match would have
1158s	turned out very differently for them
1159s	because that Battleground was completely
1161s	taking out both their Logistics and
1164s	their Vindicator which they invested
1165s	such a huge chunk of points in they
1168s	really weren't able to get a lot of
1169s	value out of it
1171s	the value of The Vindicator is already
1172s	diminished because it's going up against
1174s	a triple Battleship setup whereas The
1177s	Vindicator traditionally does better
1178s	against smaller targets with its bonus
1180s	web so they're losing a lot of value
1182s	there and then it's cap dependent
1184s	blasters the balgorn shut that down and
1187s	the longer the match goes the worse that
1188s	is for them
1192s	gentan you look like you had some uh
1194s	some thoughts on that
1196s	uh no I was actually just uh looking
1198s	over and taking a look at the comps that
1200s	the teams we have coming up next have
1202s	flown in the past and it's uh looking
1205s	like it might be quite an interesting
1206s	matchup
1208s	yeah well let's let's talk about that
1209s	matchup then so this next matchup is
1211s	going to be between the Ancients and
1212s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy because
1214s	of Pizza Time diplomacy in an absolute
1216s	nail biter yesterday uh against
1220s	um the forest ninjas where they went
1223s	down to just basically like a couple of
1226s	Cycles here or there it was so close it
1228s	could have gone either way right to the
1229s	end one of those matches seven minutes
1231s	and you still don't know who's going to
1232s	win they are hoping to to make their way
1235s	through this stage today and they're
1237s	gonna have to go through the engines the
1238s	Ancients uh the uh npsi group from
1242s	phonic uh again did pretty well they
1244s	brought a couple of pretty solid comps
1246s	uh in some of their previous matches and
1248s	you know they've made it all the way
1249s	through to today uh I can't remember
1251s	exactly who they dropped their their
1253s	match to just check they dropped to
1255s	Russia Hyena's Clan so another team is
1258s	very very solid and and of course no
1260s	shame to lose to ancients in this match
1262s	choosing to pan out the slept near and
1264s	The Vindicator so that strong web ship
1266s	that we just saw get completely
1267s	neutralized by the balgarh is banned in
1269s	this case and percussive piece of time
1271s	diplomacy Banning out the barges and the
1273s	EOS uh jintan you would you said you
1276s	were looking over some of the the comps
1278s	that previous teams have brought the
1279s	Ancients have been bringing some
1280s	interesting comps we saw uh Torpedoes
1283s	previously we saw
1285s	um uh some more battleships as lasers
1287s	what kind of stuff do you expect from
1290s	them here
1292s	um you know I was actually expecting the
1293s	Ancients to try and bait because of
1295s	Pizza Time into bringing their something
1297s	similar to what we just saw uh both
1299s	teams bring with a three Battleship
1301s	control setup it's the only thing that
1303s	Picasso Pizza Time diplomacy actually
1304s	have a win on they've got two wins and
1307s	zero losses with a ball vindi and TFI
1310s	core meanwhile the Ancients have shown a
1313s	really strong counter to that in a
1314s	torpedo Raven all in something
1317s	completely unorthodox and that we don't
1318s	see very often at all in the tournament
1321s	um normally supported by some bombers
1323s	something that can throw out about 6 000
1325s	DPS and just say wow bam and thank you
1328s	mab to any sort of compa along those
1331s	lines but it looks like they're going
1333s	for a little bit of a different strategy
1334s	here maybe they have another comp that
1337s	they want to use like their Battleship
1338s	laser Rush all in
1340s	um and they just want to put pizza time
1342s	off of the comp the only comp that
1344s	they've really won with and uh you know
1347s	basically put them off balance as they
1349s	come into this game
1351s	awesome well it's time to find out can
1354s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy uh take
1356s	the W here and put themselves in the
1358s	good position to advance into the last
1359s	tournament or will the ancients
1362s	they are on grid
1363s	um or well uh will the Ancients take the
1366s	W instead well let's find out by going
1369s	to arena with your casters the Basilisk
1371s	and Blackboard pirate
1376s	my computer is being made
1382s	hello everybody and welcome to the grid
1384s	I'm the Basilisk I think I finally just
1385s	recovered shaking recovered from shaking
1387s	from the stress of yesterday's match
1388s	against Pizza although I'm getting a
1390s	little bit of PTSD from this comp I'm
1392s	seeing here I'm joined here by
1393s	Blackboard pirate of course to
1394s	commentate this match coming up against
1395s	the Ancients I think the Ancients having
1397s	fielded a couple of sort of a little bit
1399s	wonky comps in the past but to me this
1401s	one looks a little bit more sort of
1403s	refined but how are you feeling about
1404s	this one
1405s	and I'm just chilling I I love watching
1408s	you guys get all stressed out from uh
1410s	playing spaceship games online but uh I
1413s	don't I don't know if I agree with you
1415s	about this one being that refined it's
1416s	it is definitely interesting uh the
1418s	Ancients are bringing so these are crude
1420s	scorpion Navy issues uh they are
1421s	bringing the stormbringer which I think
1423s	this is the first time we've seen one in
1425s	these feeder matches uh I'm a little
1428s	concerned uh they also have a kitsun
1430s	which is pretty interesting we've got
1431s	some ECM but they they're basically
1433s	putting all of their damage into these
1435s	two Navy scorpions and then they have a
1436s	storm bringer which can do really good
1439s	at sniping drones do really good at
1440s	sniping uh sort of just causing overall
1443s	damage but I am very worried because
1445s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy has
1447s	brought this double the shack Absolution
1449s	core so once those ships get in range
1452s	there's going to be absolutely massive
1454s	amounts of damage and I'm not sure if
1456s	the Ancients are going to be able to
1457s	take it
1458s	yeah it's I mean when I said more
1460s	refined it was it's more refined than
1462s	the triple top Raven that they brought
1464s	yesterday
1465s	um but yeah these are on this occasion I
1467s	believe their Cruise scorpion navies but
1469s	yeah it's going to come down to whether
1469s	or not these these guys can sort of kite
1471s	around keep Ranger I think they have the
1473s	advantage in terms of you know trying to
1474s	keep the Scimitar keep the Scorpion
1476s	Navy's out Farm's way and away from
1477s	these the shacks and immediately we're
1478s	seeing damage spread across the field
1479s	here if they can take out you know
1481s	there's some of these heavy tacklers on
1482s	the on the pizza side the Vex or thorax
1484s	The Omen those tech one Cruisers
1485s	obviously tech one resist boats they may
1487s	be able to sort of elongate this match
1489s	and slowly chip away at the Lush Acts
1492s	yeah they are doing a lot of damage to
1494s	these Le Shacks right here we did see
1496s	the Ancients immediately kind of
1497s	starburst out and then uh looks like
1499s	they're trying to sort of prepare
1501s	themselves to counter screen but uh
1503s	interestingly enough again we have these
1505s	lashes barreling straight in Chad flame
1507s	is taking a pretty decent chunk of
1508s	damage off of this cruise missiles and
1511s	uh like I said these drones are actually
1513s	getting completely destroyed by the
1514s	stormbringer so you know as much as a
1516s	twitch chat uh was saying that sniping
1518s	drones that's interesting it is actually
1520s	very very effective they're doing a
1522s	fantastic job all of the rep Bots are
1523s	almost dead already uh the Le Shack
1526s	though has burned in and is in position
1528s	to start doing dps2 what looks like it
1531s	might be going for the Navy scorpion yes
1532s	it has begun both the Shacks are ramping
1534s	on karanthor loon so the timer has
1536s	started for these little Shacks to hit
1538s	Peak damage and verbs through granther
1540s	and the Ancients really need to figure
1542s	something out here get some kind of
1544s	damage going maybe start working on
1545s	jamming those Shacks
1547s	yeah I mean as you said Chad flame is
1550s	starting to take some damage in this
1551s	little Shack but I wonder how much of
1552s	that is just because of how they're
1553s	posturing aggressively their whole team
1555s	is moving across the grid so these
1556s	deacons are not going to be in optimal
1557s	range but as you say little Shacks now
1559s	have got on top of corintha and Scorpion
1561s	Navy which means they can get into
1562s	position they can start spooling up and
1563s	these deacons can follow them in park up
1565s	on top of them and start getting those
1566s	reps out of their full Effectiveness so
1568s	I wonder if Chad Flay might start
1569s	recovering here obviously they've only
1571s	got those two crew scope navies really
1572s	for DPS and it's not the biggest DPS
1574s	boats but Chad playing does seem to
1576s	still be going down somewhat
1578s	yeah unfortunately uh the Ancients
1581s	forgot that the Scimitar is not a good
1584s	ship to be brawling with and uh it has
1586s	been caught directly on top of both of
1588s	these lashacks who are now ramping up on
1590s	it and blow it up yeah I don't know what
1592s	he's doing there
1595s	yeah
1598s	this is the final day of the feeders as
1600s	we've as the guys on the desk have said
1601s	these are the final six teams and
1603s	presumably to get to this point they
1604s	have won some matches they have
1605s	Ambitions of getting to the alliance
1606s	tournament and obviously mistakes like
1608s	that are you know gonna get punished by
1610s	other competent teams the habago heroes
1611s	have all gone home these guys are all
1613s	serious opponents here so if you're
1614s	gonna fly a scimitar in the middle of
1616s	two Lush acts you're asking for trouble
1619s	uh you're definitely right and you know
1620s	what's interesting Chad flame is
1622s	actually still dropping pretty quickly
1623s	here uh you know relatively speaking
1625s	there's very little uh jams going out on
1629s	the Le Shacks which is you know there's
1631s	a single Jam but they haven't really
1632s	been jammed yet I'm still seeing a lot
1634s	of damage being applied uh they are
1635s	actually switching over and trying to
1637s	kill the kitsun so I'm guessing that
1638s	those jams from the kitsun have been
1640s	very effective on the deacons I'm not
1642s	sure how the The Shack tracking is going
1643s	to do against a kitsun but now that the
1645s	Scimitar is down they should be able to
1647s	get it down eventually here uh kind of a
1649s	bit of a race though and there it does
1651s	finally drop there which means that now
1652s	the deacons and the shack have no uh
1654s	ability to have their damage stopped so
1657s	the Ancients kind of falling apart a
1659s	little bit here because of Pizza Time
1660s	diplomacy being very very smart and with
1662s	their target calling and recognizing
1663s	opportunities as they fly in and that
1666s	raptor goes down as well but yeah I mean
1668s	to my eye I feel like those two deacons
1670s	should be able to hold
1671s	well I mean they have held for quite an
1673s	effect of quite a long period of time
1674s	the DPS from these two scorpion navies
1676s	but if that kitsun was Landing jams and
1678s	those deacons then we would start to
1679s	expect Chad flame to start repping back
1680s	up here but he does seem to still ever
1682s	so gradually be going through armor here
1684s	but I'm not sure if it's going to be
1685s	fast enough because
1687s	I mean the Ancients have already lost
1689s	three ships here they've lost their
1690s	tackle they've lost their jams they've
1691s	lost their lodgy
1695s	yeah I'm not really I'm not really sure
1696s	what the deal with that is and also uh
1698s	right now the Shacks are actually
1699s	splitting damage um you can't quite see
1701s	it but yeah the shack of Chad flame is
1704s	actually directly behind karanthor like
1706s	the ships are touching uh you know tip
1709s	the butt so uh these made a very smart
1712s	call and actually going after the
1713s	servers with his ramping damage but I do
1715s	think that maybe instead of like
1717s	approaching he should not approach and
1719s	finish off the Scorpion Navy because
1721s	like you said Chad flame is very very
1723s	slowly dropping here and uh I don't
1725s	think the Cerberus is the correct Target
1727s	for him to be shooting so you know it's
1730s	entirely possible they're going to lose
1731s	this Shack and not have enough damage to
1733s	break scorpion Navy issues because they
1734s	are still very very tanky even without
1736s	reps
1738s	yeah it's possible and we saw Chad flame
1740s	take so long to go through armor I'm
1741s	gonna guess
1742s	um that these are the same sort of Le
1743s	Shack fits that they use yesterday in
1745s	their match against hiddenly Village
1746s	which were triple plated Max tank triple
1748s	try Mark or Shacks it's obviously going
1750s	through armor took extreme long period
1751s	of time but they are actually going to
1752s	win this race here as Chad flame goes
1754s	into 30 whole but the Scorpion Navy of
1756s	current Thor is going to go down at
1757s	about the same time as well
1760s	yeah and as soon as it does go down Chad
1761s	flame drops at the same time and uh I
1764s	think that the Ancients probably aren't
1766s	going to be able to pull this off just
1767s	because of the ramping DPS going to be
1769s	able to counter it but uh there was a
1771s	little bit of a bit of a throw almost I
1774s	don't think Chad flame had to die there
1775s	uh you know all reps on Chad flame JC
1778s	Chad flame a little bit of damage still
1780s	coming out but yeah I don't know if one
1782s	scorpion Navy issue has the ability to
1784s	break through a shack uh certainly gonna
1785s	try though the jackdaw does drop your um
1789s	damage going out on the thorax actually
1791s	which is kind of strange and uh I will
1793s	say that isca scorpion Navy issue is
1796s	mjding away probably the only person on
1799s	the entire ancients team who actually
1800s	realized that brawling into a bunch of
1802s	lechecks is not an intelligent idea
1804s	unfortunately not going to be able to
1805s	mjd due to the work scrambling of that
1809s	thorax
1810s	yep I'm not sure if they're gonna be
1812s	able to kill him in time I guess once I
1813s	mean obviously one only one left track
1815s	left in the Absolution for DPS so I mean
1816s	four minutes
1817s	probably doable I suppose
1820s	um but I just want to talk briefly about
1822s	these comps I mean I said at the start
1823s	the Ancients had sort of maybe a more
1824s	cohesive compliment yesterday than the
1827s	Three Ravens
1829s	um I feel like the The Three Ravens the
1831s	three top Ravens was a very sort of one
1833s	note you know either the opponent swarp
1834s	in something at close range that you can
1836s	pump your top DPS on some heavy
1837s	Battleship core and you can pump through
1838s	it or you just lose
1840s	how do you feel about this one do you
1842s	feel this one has sort of clear win cons
1844s	clear counters clear sort of we win this
1847s	match we lose other match and how how
1849s	could they sort of play around what this
1851s	comp does
1852s	I feel that like with the mirror that
1855s	we've been seeing in the feeders which
1856s	is like so much just so ridiculously
1859s	Battleship heavy I think that this setup
1861s	was actually a very good one and that
1863s	the Ancients just executed it like
1864s	terribly and not even the the Ancients
1867s	necessarily executed it terribly but
1869s	having your Scimitar directly on top of
1871s	your two cruise missile battleships
1874s	is not smart like if you see what isca
1877s	did right iska pulled off went to a
1879s	beacon and was prepared to jump away to
1881s	you know utilize the fact that cruise
1883s	missiles can end anywhere what if both
1886s	scorpion Navy issues pulled range and
1888s	Scimitar pulled range and so that way
1890s	like yeah okay well you all in on one of
1891s	the Scorpion Navy issues but then all of
1893s	your other ships are in different
1895s	positions so that even if that's
1896s	grouping Navy if she dies you still have
1897s	to have that travel time to move through
1899s	space to get to the next Target
1902s	just putting that out yeah I think some
1904s	of these teams need to get sort of
1905s	better identifying win cons and a lot of
1907s	these matches we've seen with the
1908s	feeders a lot of um the less experienced
1910s	teams matches sort of tend to devolve
1912s	into an all-out brawl match whereas sort
1914s	of similar to the adage on TQ if both
1915s	FC's enter a fair fight one of them's
1917s	made a mistake right if both teams start
1919s	brawling upon you know right on top of
1920s	each other and just start devolving the
1922s	match into a mess it's going to be less
1923s	favorable for one of them so one of
1925s	those two fleets has made a mistake by
1926s	sort of willingly engaging in that in
1928s	that fight and I think the Ancients here
1930s	could have done A Better Effort at not
1932s	getting involved in this broadcast with
1934s	these two little Shanks because
1934s	obviously if you let through the Shack's
1936s	absolutions deacons Park up on you
1937s	they're going to win the DPS race
1939s	against two Navy scorpions and they
1941s	didn't really have any damp pressure
1942s	here with you know they haven't brought
1943s	celestis they haven't brought carries
1944s	they haven't brought a damn Tech three
1946s	Destroyer like Professor on Armor Jack
1947s	door so I feel like there was room here
1951s	for the Ancients to leverage their range
1952s	leverage their speed on the Scimitar the
1954s	Cerberus Etc and kite around the arena a
1955s	little bit but they they didn't really
1957s	play to the win condition of their
1958s	compare
1960s	no and also like think about the storm
1962s	Runner um I guess people are saying that
1964s	the stormers like zero five or zero six
1966s	now uh so it's been brought a couple
1968s	times
1968s	this is actually like a case for the
1970s	storminger would have been really really
1971s	smart because if we we saw it being used
1973s	correctly and just completely wiped the
1975s	rep drones out on the Progressive Pizza
1977s	Time diplomacy side uh the thing to get
1980s	rid of rep drones is you got like three
1982s	options you can use bombs you can use uh
1984s	smart bombs or you can use a
1985s	stormbringer with your cruise missiles
1987s	and your Stormbreaker you can do that
1988s	from far away so like the Ancients had
1990s	this idea of long range damage that they
1993s	could apply from anywhere on the grid
1995s	and then they chose to brawl in with it
1998s	with their entire fleet including their
2000s	Scimitar so like I think that they had a
2002s	good idea here but it just didn't work
2005s	because the Scimitar Violet got tackled
2008s	and you know as I say that uh Professor
2011s	Pizza climb clumsy does finally clean
2013s	this up uh Houston Lee final ill
2016s	server's going down and because Pizza
2017s	time does win 100 points to 26 and we
2020s	will send it back to Ithaca
2023s	thank you
2025s	[Music]
2031s	[Music]
2055s	[Applause]
2065s	[Music]
2069s	thank you
2072s	[Music]
2078s	thank you
2080s	[Music]
2090s	foreign
2092s	[Music]
2102s	diplomacy showing us once again that
2105s	pineapple truly belongs on Pizza as they
2108s	dismantle the Ancients in a uh
2110s	commanding Victory there it looked like
2113s	Alec uh those two of the Shacks once
2115s	they started getting spilled up upon
2117s	those Navy scorpions especially assisted
2119s	by that Cemetery who rather
2121s	unfortunately ended up right next to the
2125s	um the to the Shacks it was just too
2127s	much DPS I mean 52 points and two ships
2130s	though that's quite a commitment what do
2131s	you think about that
2133s	I'm a big fan of Little Shack I think it
2136s	brings a lot to the table
2138s	um I really like the RR aspects of it on
2141s	Tranquility obviously you can't deal
2142s	that here in the tournament but it still
2144s	has a big chunk of utility highs it has
2147s	a ton of damage
2149s	it is pretty straightforward to counter
2152s	which is the one big downside of it in
2155s	tracking disrupt it to break at school
2156s	you can ECM it to break at school you do
2159s	a lot of things to break at school and
2161s	when it breaks it has to spend valuable
2163s	time re-ramping back up on whatever
2165s	Target
2167s	um
2167s	that said you know it brings a lot of
2170s	Versatility it brings a lot of damage
2172s	and if you're seeing two of them on the
2174s	other side of the field chances are it's
2176s	going to overwhelm your Logistics
2178s	in this case a little more directly than
2180s	both teams see but you know it does
2182s	happen
2185s	yeah I just wanted to say that I think
2186s	that um because of pizza time did a
2189s	really good job in their Theory crafting
2191s	in terms of putting putting play pieces
2195s	around it to prevent that kind of evil
2199s	disruption from really giving it the
2202s	same problem you'd normally face we saw
2204s	a five really high DPS tackle ships
2208s	being brought out there by percussive
2210s	Pizza Time and some ships we don't
2211s	normally see especially in the thorax
2213s	and The Omen that aren't that tanky but
2215s	they can sort of operate independently
2217s	in this comp and run around grab onto
2219s	the crucifier or carries a Kitsune in
2222s	the back lines and kill it down or as we
2225s	saw in that match effectively just swarm
2227s	onto a scimitar tackle it early on when
2229s	it's out of position and Snowball the
2231s	match from there
2233s	and the other ship I wanted to mention
2236s	you already have on the the taco ships
2238s	that are gen 10
2239s	um but we saw a stormbringer on the
2243s	ancient side uh what do you think about
2245s	that like what makes the stormbringer so
2247s	interesting uh epic here
2250s	uh the stormbringer is really really
2253s	tanky um it gains the ability of uh you
2256s	know a six percent per level I believe
2258s	of a resist bonus and that means that it
2260s	can operate kind of outside of the fight
2262s	for a little bit shoot outside of it and
2264s	take a lot of incidental damage without
2266s	really being in threat of dying
2268s	especially if you have a scimitar to
2270s	support it but the main thing that it
2272s	really gives is the ability to clear rep
2273s	drones and this was something the
2275s	commentators picked up on but I just
2277s	want to re-emphasize you know one of the
2278s	real big PowerPoints of the Le Shack is
2281s	that it can Field Five heavy repair Bots
2283s	and that means that it's doing you know
2286s	something like 125 eh raw HP a second
2290s	Perler Shack onto whatever's being shot
2294s	um and taking that off the grid just
2295s	makes it so much easier for a relatively
2297s	low DPS comp like this cruise missile
2300s	scope comp to break things uh you know
2303s	what you're trying to do here is you're
2304s	just trying to keep a flat line of
2306s	damage over the course of the match and
2308s	hoping that you're able to use your
2309s	range control uh to prevent your
2312s	opponents from really doing as much
2314s	damage over the course of an entire
2315s	match
2317s	Alec what do you think of our teams who
2319s	really
2320s	uh load up the top end of their comps
2323s	here we saw the shack two of them at 52
2326s	points and then an Absolution 18 points
2328s	uh that if my math allows is 70 points
2332s	in just three ships meaning you've got
2335s	uh 30 points to split across seven it
2338s	feels very very unbalanced to me what do
2340s	you think about that
2342s	that's an interesting strategy
2344s	battleships do bring a lot to the table
2346s	I I don't want to say that that's not
2348s	worth the points because it is but you
2350s	have to take a very different approach
2351s	to your match it's again mentioned
2355s	earlier you're kind of building a cocoon
2358s	around these battleships either to
2359s	protect them or you're building an
2362s	escort around them to make sure that
2363s	they get on top of whatever they need to
2365s	get on top of successfully so if you
2368s	decide to go that route you're
2369s	essentially committing your entire team
2371s	and your entire strategy to making those
2373s	two or three ships as successful as they
2376s	can possibly be it's high risk High
2379s	reward strategy because if something
2380s	goes wrong with one of them
2382s	your toast as we saw with The Vindicator
2384s	match earlier on the other side you can
2387s	spread your points out to have lots of
2389s	proof you know high damage Cruisers and
2391s	battle Cruisers and command ships things
2393s	like that
2394s	but each individual piece of that is
2397s	much more fragile
2398s	and all of your team have to be
2400s	operating on all cylinders because they
2402s	all need to get on the right target not
2404s	get screened out
2405s	there is a lot more moving Parts there
2407s	that can potentially go wrong so I do
2410s	like the strategy but it has to be a
2412s	very deliberate choice if you just pick
2414s	battleships because you like battleships
2416s	you don't plan the rest of your comp
2417s	around it it's a recipe for disaster
2421s	awesome thank you um just want to shout
2423s	out to everyone in twitch uh it looks
2425s	like you overwhelmingly endorse
2427s	pineapple and pizza 53 which is the
2430s	absolute majority uh in this first past
2432s	the post system supporting pineapple on
2434s	Pizza while you're out there uh you can
2437s	use your channel points to bet on these
2438s	matches uh and then you can turn them
2440s	into awesome gal net skins uh 10K at a
2444s	time so make sure you uh you're gambling
2446s	them all on all these matches uh
2449s	speaking of gambling looks like a lot of
2451s	you are favoring kitchen sinkhole here
2454s	vastly over uh we form blob which is
2456s	going to be our next match up here as I
2458s	see 25 to 75 76 now uh of you voting for
2464s	kitchen sinkhole over a week from blob
2466s	let's take a look at the bands for this
2468s	next matchup uh we're from blog versus
2469s	kitchen sinkhole kitchen sinkhole lost
2471s	out yesterday to Alexis Matari who sent
2473s	them to this uh Redemption Arc whereas
2477s	we from blob as we saw earlier on this
2478s	is the second match of the day so
2480s	they'll be looking to put a w here
2482s	balgorn and EOS banned by we form blob
2485s	whereas kitchen sink called Banning the
2486s	zarmas and the Tempest Fleet issue
2489s	interesting sets of bands there from
2491s	Kitchen sinkhole gentan what do you
2493s	think
2494s	uh yeah I'm not entirely sure why
2496s	they're banning these ships I know we've
2498s	seen the zamas to be banned uh by them
2501s	in a couple of other matches as well
2502s	we've only ever seen Rusty hyenas break
2505s	out and I think this is something to do
2507s	with the comp that kitchen sinkhole have
2509s	been relying on they've flown mimitar
2511s	rush in every single one of their
2513s	matches so far in the trials round and I
2517s	imagine that they're very very concerned
2519s	about this armad's ability to ramp up
2521s	once they land on some sort of key ship
2523s	that they think you know taking it out
2525s	will remove the win condition from their
2526s	opponents so just Banning it and leaving
2529s	it to something like an aniros or a
2531s	guardian reps which you know whilst
2533s	having a lot more flexibility in its
2536s	ability to rep doesn't have quite that
2538s	Peak potential
2540s	um
2540s	isn't going to be as impactful versus
2542s	the game plan of a minotaur Rush
2545s	what that shows me is that because we
2548s	haven't seen this arm that much they
2550s	have had a very negative experience
2552s	screaming against teams that have
2554s	fielded it so whatever their setup is
2556s	they've gotten burned really badly and
2558s	they don't even want to risk it
2561s	I mean it's a solid Logic for bands if
2563s	you think that it's a ship that has
2564s	beaten you a bunch then certainly just
2566s	get rid of it and uh you know maybe
2567s	you're more comfortable facing guardian
2569s	or neros but it's time to find out but
2571s	before we go to the arena interesting
2573s	point of note every single day of the
2574s	trials thus far days one two and three
2576s	has started with undefeated matches from
2579s	the red teams whereas today blue is
2582s	undefeated Odin's column Picasso piece
2584s	of time diplomacy both the blue team so
2585s	today is just turning everything on its
2587s	head can kitchen sinkhole continue that
2590s	streak by being the blue team and taking
2591s	a w here or will we Farm blob go one and
2594s	one in this group stage let's find out
2596s	as we go to the arena with the casters
2598s	wing nut cross and Ithaca Hawk
2604s	foreign
2612s	very interesting
2613s	memories versus Triple battleships but
2616s	it's twin typhoon fleets with a less
2618s	Shack so definitely a slight variation
2620s	here
2621s	yeah this is basically the same comp
2623s	that we formed blob brought in the first
2625s	match but they are completely PTSD from
2628s	bringing that Vindicator so they decided
2630s	to bring her the shack instead uh which
2632s	to be honest the better choice what
2633s	they've done is
2635s	sorry the typing plates are not missile
2637s	fit
2640s	okay what I mean they can't fit that's a
2643s	bold bold Choice by we form blob that's
2645s	correct I've just zoomed in they are
2647s	indeed not to miss outfit
2649s	welcome to Looney land ladies and
2651s	gentlemen well they're doing something
2654s	they are doing something and will that
2656s	work we will certainly find out as this
2659s	match is now underway we Farm blob
2661s	currently can contemplate in their
2663s	fitting choices meanwhile Kitchen
2664s	Central burning away from the center of
2667s	the Arena let's see who takes First
2669s	Blood
2670s	I'm sorry I just um I'm trying to get my
2673s	lungs back there yeah uh that's I guess
2675s	they're all the Canon typhoon fleets I'm
2676s	pretty sure yeah they're all the Cannons
2678s	all right so we have Auto Cannon typhoon
2679s	fleets with aleshack versus order Cannon
2682s	hurricane slept near with a pretty
2683s	sizable support link to be
2685s	honest I got a hugot in that comp that's
2687s	a lot of Point Spin and support even a
2689s	scimitar as well
2691s	yeah Hugo's going to be really important
2692s	long range where uh bonus Target
2694s	Panthers he can help the rest of his
2696s	team apply and slow down and Screen
2698s	things uh at the moment it's just that
2700s	Vengeance though of arsonist on the blob
2702s	side that is taking a little bit of
2704s	tickle damage uh the tally and the
2706s	Deacon they have learned they've brought
2707s	uh rather than two deacons they've got
2709s	Talia and you can saving those two
2711s	points potentially for that the shack
2712s	there is keeping arsonists very
2715s	comfortably even though that Target
2717s	painter from that hugin is sitting on
2719s	top of them but the molar of Captain two
2721s	one is now nope he was where briefly but
2724s	he's fine he's safe now
2725s	yeah tough effects are trying to move in
2727s	it looks like at the moment they were
2728s	trying to go after the hugin but it
2729s	could be them just trying to cut off the
2730s	rest of this comp that human is going to
2732s	be an absolute nightmare these guys are
2733s	going to get the speed then immediately
2735s	gets slowed back down you can see the
2736s	web cycling between the typhoons every
2737s	once in a while that is not gonna be a
2739s	fun experience they might need to try an
2741s	mjd player at this point
2743s	well at the moment these autocannon
2745s	Fleet typhoons have done precisely zero
2747s	damages uh in total to the opponent's
2750s	side oh no finally the fleet side takes
2752s	a little bit of damage look 87 just got
2754s	a little bit right there the Scimitar of
2756s	exclusive man is going to be all over
2757s	him wrapping him up but oh no there we
2760s	go the Vengeance of arsonists now remove
2762s	so tackle gone and for brawling comps
2765s	losing your tackle early on not good not
2767s	good mm-hmm the Alex said they might
2769s	have to try for the mjds because I don't
2770s	think they're going to catch this comp
2771s	with that uh huge and playing controller
2773s	type and look at that crucify shot
2775s	strained the armor with a single shot
2776s	not looking good is he about his lodgy
2779s	not even close
2781s	it's kind of kind of a sad sight looking
2783s	at these uh Fleet typhoons just burning
2785s	around an empty space trying vainly to
2788s	catch something they can apply they're a
2790s	vast vast also carrying damage to uh but
2792s	look at the shields of kitchen sinkhole
2795s	everyone not one of them has any damage
2799s	right now there's a tiny bit missing
2801s	from the fleet side but meanwhile blob
2804s	just I don't want to kill loser
2805s	vengeance so the crucifier sorry sci-fi
2808s	went off and killed the crucify all on
2810s	his own while being shot at and just did
2812s	not care what deacon now gonna die in
2814s	seconds too this is just it could have
2816s	pulled apart I don't think they even had
2817s	a chance for the typhoon Fleet order
2819s	cans to suck because they've just been
2820s	getting killed anyway
2822s	I don't know some someone got too deep
2824s	into the bifur hall and was like look at
2826s	this look how much damage they don't
2828s	they don't need the cap they'll be great
2830s	the ball going can't hurt us now if we
2832s	don't bring uh guns that need cap
2833s	fortunately uh many other things can
2835s	hurt you if you bring uh autocannon
2837s	sleep time sci-fi is doing solo PVP he's
2840s	just he's not going up to the celestial
2842s	on his own this guy is just like nah I'm
2844s	not in a comp I'm a solo pilot I'm sure
2846s	there's an arena I'm sure there's
2847s	friendlies nearby but this is just me
2849s	doing my own thing
2851s	this is uh we form blob just dropping
2854s	the ball completely on this comp they
2857s	got outmatched outpicked and out Theory
2859s	crafted on this one uh I'm sure Fleet
2862s	typhens worked in uh some some practice
2865s	scrims but this this is certainly a a
2868s	bold call here cotton
2871s	so good news the Claymore was captured
2873s	bad news it is as far away from the
2875s	battleships as it could be so you know
2877s	yay question mark
2879s	there's a chance to try to try and kill
2882s	it but I'm just looking where are they
2883s	yeah typhoon fleet's burning over the
2885s	shack is the other side of the universe
2887s	he's going for an mjd
2889s	I don't think so no okay so this is just
2892s	you've got to you've got a Target tackle
2893s	that you're not even nearby this is just
2895s	painful to watch
2897s	yeah kitchen sinkhole doing just the
2900s	best at staying away from from we from
2903s	blob right now which is a pretty solid
2905s	uh pretty solid strategy when your
2908s	opponents bring ships that only really
2910s	work at zero
2912s	um of course the the type in Fleet does
2914s	get a bonus to large project uh
2916s	projectile rate of fire which is cool I
2919s	guess if that's what you like but it
2921s	also gets borders to damage from
2922s	missiles heavy metal Christmas on
2924s	torpedo that's usually why we see them
2926s	fit with those uh as damage is
2928s	considered an important aspect in
2930s	killing your opponent ships in the
2932s	alliance tournament
2933s	yeah and maybe a mildly uh what's the
2936s	word
2937s	crazy thing to say I honestly think that
2939s	missile is probably the best systems in
2940s	the entire game
2943s	hey what the hell completely white
2946s	that's it they're turning the tide now
2947s	stand by we from blob has now activated
2950s	it's 23 points to 13. like
2953s	this flick typhoon is probably going to
2955s	die he's very low there's no uh
2957s	Logistics left but that's that hurricane
2959s	dying was a decent amount of DPS
2961s	suddenly off the field if they can take
2963s	out something else maybe they'll Shack
2965s	in the fleet typhoon can just go on some
2967s	sort of solo room here
2970s	you're gonna die but the second time
2972s	fleet has now arrived so even if he dies
2973s	second toe for free is there try and
2975s	kill disclaimer off the Claymore might
2977s	survive with Scimitar support where he
2979s	even is a scimitar honestly he's he's
2981s	burning over now okay so he's a little
2982s	bit of a distance away so he'll save him
2984s	I think so yeah they had their little
2986s	they had a little moment in the sun they
2987s	did killer ship but
2989s	nope nope speaking of getting saved not
2992s	something that's happening happening
2993s	right now to Elias Rampart in that Fleet
2995s	typhoon uh in fact he's dying which uh
2998s	is going to take off a chunk of this
3000s	Auto Cannon Fleet typhoon damage from
3002s	the field likely the Claymore will be
3004s	able to tank now uh on his XL ASB for a
3008s	significant amount of time potentially
3010s	the rest of the match considering
3011s	there's also a scimitar of exclusive man
3013s	uh who was briefly tackled and briefly
3016s	damaged but he managed to uh just you
3019s	know get right out of Dodge get back out
3020s	to range and sit happily uh repping all
3023s	of his friends except the hurricane he
3025s	didn't wrap his hurricane boy
3028s	I just want to stay pleased to the guys
3030s	in chat I am not being optimistic that
3033s	is purely Ithaca being Ithaca okay these
3035s	guys were screwed they brought order
3037s	Cannon die files this is this is still
3039s	heresy
3041s	hey I'm always up for a team that's
3043s	turning around and there's only 10
3045s	points of a difference like if if
3046s	something had happened they could
3048s	certainly have turned this around I mean
3050s	there's a lot of damage from those that
3051s	the shack spilled up from that fluke
3053s	typhoon I mean to be honest two Fleet
3055s	typhoons and the Le chat could probably
3057s	punch through
3059s	um the slutman or the Scimitar and
3060s	speaking of that Scimitar he is webbed
3062s	he is muted
3063s	yeah so let's see can we finish off the
3066s	Scimitar because again Fleet typhoon The
3069s	Shack that's a lot of damage and they
3071s	have a Muller who can still tackle
3072s	things down they are only like 20-ish
3075s	points
3076s	um if they kill off the Scimitar they're
3078s	going to close that Gap but that the
3080s	shack of uh Jack darville not looking as
3083s	healthy as he was at the start of this
3084s	match
3085s	he's trying his best Scimitar is doing
3088s	quite well considering he's under attack
3089s	by both ships then again that happens
3091s	you bring Auto cannons instead of uh you
3093s	know missiles
3095s	under attack is a strong strong way of
3098s	pitting it he's uh he's he's basically
3101s	being missed right now uh I can see the
3104s	Shack's theme is going off into the void
3106s	as he is struggling to trap uh track
3109s	this Scimitar he's almost on top of him
3111s	uh there we go the shack is down so now
3115s	we get to find the the age-old question
3117s	can a single Fleet typhoon solo the rest
3121s	of uh the kitchen sink or comp uh
3125s	this is a quick question can an auto
3127s	Cannon solo Fleet typhoon killed in this
3130s	entire com there's an extra no on top of
3133s	the no
3134s	I honestly can't remember the last time
3136s	I've seen an also kind of Fleet typhoon
3138s	in an alliance tournament I think that's
3139s	uh I mean Giga Chads for for trying it
3143s	you know well done we form blob uh I I
3145s	like the creativity that's a lot of
3146s	close-up damage and you're gonna kill
3148s	the Scimitar you know so uh if you can
3151s	hear this is me clapping you for killing
3152s	the Scimitar well done uh we're all very
3154s	proud uh unfortunately it might be too
3158s	little too late yeah I mean the
3160s	sleptner's tackled oh the cemetery might
3162s	survive now he's boosting oh excellent
3164s	reload
3166s	oh we clap too early why did you do this
3169s	oh that was my fault for clapping
3172s	can I have a clap how do you how do you
3175s	how do you clap backwards
3177s	um all right well the fleet typhoon is
3179s	now dead so
3181s	this is it so we find blob the final
3184s	stand uh
3187s	this is a question of how long until
3189s	they die uh if it can survive for one
3192s	minute and four seconds there is a
3194s	chance albeit minute that they could
3197s	still get through in some sort of weird
3198s	rust score tiebreaker
3201s	but uh there's no Rusty ships Left Alive
3206s	they brought they brought two Fleet
3208s	typhoons which means another 40 points
3210s	of uh of rust points so we did see a
3214s	couple of teams Advance into the group
3215s	stages with uh zero and two records
3218s	based on the tiebreakers so
3220s	mathematically
3223s	they're probably eliminated but we can
3226s	hope maybe
3240s	uh there we are so we form blob
3243s	uh with an interesting comp uh getting
3246s	100 to 13 by kitchen sinkhole
3250s	um quite something let's send that one
3252s	back to the desk and I'll break that one
3254s	down a little bit
3256s	yeah in the Silence of the night we will
3259s	always hear the screams so this is our
3263s	story wolves are monks to strangers
3267s	did you know that anything can happen in
3270s	Altered fleets
3272s	are you still shaving your balls Jesus
3275s	why you must have some big balls yeah
3278s	[Laughter]
3279s	yeah literally anything
3309s	[Music]
3313s	they are we form blob uh dropping
3316s	another match there so now they're all
3318s	into and basically that is them out of
3320s	contention
3322s	but in Alliance tournament 18 uh as
3325s	kitchen sinkhole takes that win uh
3327s	jintan
3329s	autocannon Fleet typhoons
3333s	um your your opinions please
3337s	uh you know I really think we should
3338s	just tea bbp up because that man is
3340s	going off in the Green Room about these
3343s	ships
3344s	um for those who aren't aware the
3345s	typhoon Fleet issue even though we
3347s	normally do see it fit with some form of
3349s	missile system it does have a bonus to
3351s	Auto cannons and it's also a ship that
3353s	you generally do want to put into close
3355s	range but the benefit of the typhoon
3357s	Fleet issue is that it's a ship that can
3360s	use missiles that's also still really
3362s	effective in a close range environment
3363s	with those two utility highs and with
3367s	its uh five mid slots it can just wreak
3369s	havoc if you put it into the back lines
3371s	it can start to neutralize tackle off
3373s	itself it can do all sorts of wonderful
3375s	things while still being able to slap
3378s	things at range and with auto cannons
3380s	you can do everything rhmls can do up
3382s	close but you can do exactly idly squat
3386s	uh to something at range unfortunately a
3389s	little bit of a skill issue there from
3391s	we form blob uh seems like they crumbled
3393s	Under Pressure here unfortunately maybe
3395s	trying a little too hard to you win on
3397s	those rust points
3400s	yeah skill issue and in this case the
3402s	skill might be thinking I'm being told
3405s	that even with all Navy ammo tarps and
3409s	Rapid heavy missile launcher all do more
3412s	damage
3413s	um 800 DPS on rapid heavy metal
3417s	launchers with a standard fit 900 DPS
3420s	with auto cannons
3422s	um according to my math that is more
3425s	damage actually I'm just being told wow
3428s	with hail so there you are 900 DPS with
3430s	hail that's a larger number Alec 900
3432s	larger than 800 so uh are we going to
3435s	see a rise of these autocannon Fleet
3436s	typhens or do you think the more
3437s	traditional fit is the better one
3440s	I think the more traditional fit is the
3442s	better one I'm not I'm not going to join
3444s	the hater parade on the autocannon fleet
3447s	typhoon uh I I give them credit for at
3450s	least trying it if
3451s	under the right circumstances might
3453s	might be good maybe they were trying to
3455s	uh you know bait out some guidance
3458s	disruptors or something like that you
3460s	never know but my issue is if you're
3462s	gonna be doing that why in the world
3464s	would you bring two of them and not one
3466s	Tempest Fleet issue which actually has
3468s	the bonuses to the guns that you're
3470s	planning on bringing save yourself was
3472s	that banned just a quick question was
3474s	this was the tempestly issued did I miss
3477s	that is that why
3479s	uh let me let me just double check that
3481s	time because I think it was it was
3482s	because it was temperature was banned
3485s	so there you go that's
3486s	I've discovered the logic what happened
3488s	was the Tempest Fleet issue was banned
3490s	so they went crap that's the core of our
3492s	comp so they lifted the fit off and they
3494s	put it on to the other Fleet issue
3496s	Minotaur Battleship uh and hoped for the
3499s	best
3500s	of the world's greatest detective
3503s	yeah
3505s	call me Sherlock okay I mean is there
3509s	anybody could have made that work do you
3510s	think that um they should have just gone
3512s	for the standard rapid heavy missile
3513s	launcher fit or
3515s	is there a a reason for Fleet typhons
3518s	like to be fit without the Cannons I
3520s	don't want to describe the blob team too
3522s	much like they did bring a comp and they
3525s	did compete in the match and they did
3526s	kill a couple of ships it just if they
3528s	caught things perhaps you know the motto
3530s	Lord hail never fail would have actually
3532s	worked unfortunately this didn't pay off
3534s	for them in this case you know what
3536s	could they have done differently and
3537s	actually put a w with this team
3539s	yeah I think actually you know it's not
3541s	it's not quite as terrible of a choice
3543s	as we're playing up to especially given
3546s	the history of kitchen sinkhole as we
3548s	said going into the match they've flown
3550s	for four games now with nothing but
3553s	mimitar rush and it's now game number
3555s	five with nothing but mimitar rush and
3558s	if um and they're effectively just
3560s	putting an execution check on kitchen
3562s	sinkhole you know are you guys just
3564s	gonna assume that these are rapid heavy
3566s	missile fly directly into us try and
3568s	kill off our top end or Barrow your way
3570s	through our low end at which point we
3572s	can just slam into you with these Auto
3573s	cannons will out DPS you and we'll win
3576s	the late game from that uh but kitchen
3578s	sinkhole they did their due diligence
3580s	they checked those weapon systems and
3581s	you saw even though they were in a rush
3583s	comp even though they were completely
3586s	um you know they were completely under
3588s	ranged by their opponents they just flew
3591s	around they waited for that blob tackle
3594s	to get out of positions uh first of all
3596s	the Vengeance and then later on um
3598s	managed to actually wheel their tackle
3600s	into the backlight you tackle on those
3602s	Logistics frigates and pick them apart
3603s	from there
3605s	if kitchen sinkhole had done the classic
3608s	overheat props overheat F1 and just prey
3611s	methodology that we sometimes see teams
3614s	use with these Rush comps I don't think
3616s	it would have worked I think you know
3618s	there is every chance The Blob could
3619s	have won that match uh just uh they they
3622s	you know their opponents didn't fall for
3624s	the Trap basically
3627s	and the truck card was not activated in
3629s	this instant well
3630s	unfortunately that is Owen two for blobs
3633s	so they are gonzoed from Alliance
3635s	tournament 18. uh but let's look at two
3637s	teams that aren't gonzoed yet uh the
3639s	Ancients versus laser Hawks in our next
3641s	match and see what the bands are this
3644s	time uh the Ancients Banning the
3646s	Scimitar and the slept near uh laser
3648s	expanding The Raven and the Oracle
3650s	interesting sets of bands from uh from
3653s	laser Hawks there the Oracle we saw
3656s	fielded with great effect by the
3658s	Ancients in that abaddin Oracle comp
3660s	which uh slayed basically and the Raven
3663s	as well we saw them bring those to pedo
3665s	ravenship so this is laser Hawks
3666s	targeting comps that they have seen the
3669s	engines already bring and force them to
3671s	try and bring something completely
3673s	different Jin tan what kind of stuff do
3675s	you think we might see them pull out of
3676s	their bag is there any other comps you
3677s	think
3679s	I think both teams are probably going to
3681s	have a lot of comps they've these are
3683s	two of the teams that have shown kind of
3685s	the widest diversity uh in things that
3687s	they've brought to the field
3690s	it's just going to be a question of
3692s	whether they think they can nail down
3693s	what their opponents have brought
3695s	obviously laser Hawks have primarily had
3696s	success with four Battleship all in and
3699s	that's something that again it could
3700s	have some real problems facing that top
3702s	Raven all in
3704s	um that we've seen from the Ancients in
3706s	previous matches uh but equally the
3708s	Ancients had their own version of it I
3710s	wouldn't actually be that surprised if
3711s	we saw something of a mirror with both
3713s	teams running a lot of abandons
3714s	apocalypses and just smashing them into
3716s	each other and seeing whose tank held up
3718s	for the longest
3721s	Alec what about what about you what do
3723s	you think about these uh these bands
3724s	that we just saw here
3727s	laser Rolex is definitely showing
3728s	respect to the comps that ancients have
3731s	put forth so far I think their bands
3734s	kind of signal that they might be going
3736s	a little bit Battleship heavy
3738s	ancients we've only really seen them run
3742s	two maybe three comps so they've been
3745s	repeating their strategies so they might
3748s	have more that we haven't seen yet maybe
3749s	a kite cop I think that would be a very
3752s	interesting matchup
3755s	well it's time to find out and see if
3756s	the Ancients are indeed bringing a cake
3758s	comp or whether laser Hawks have got
3760s	something to counter them uh let's go
3762s	you know with the casters the vasilisk
3764s	and Blackboard pirate
3771s	and welcome back to the arena where we
3773s	have the Ancients versus laser Hawks and
3777s	unfortunately for the Ancients their
3779s	plan of banning out the Minotaur Rush
3780s	got hard countered by laser Hawks
3782s	bringing The Nighthawks the low-keys the
3785s	fleet size the scalpels and the Sabers
3788s	so uh they basically have replaced their
3790s	sleptner with a Nighthawk which means
3792s	that they still effectively have a
3794s	Minotaur Rush it's just a little tiny
3795s	bit slower uh passes how do you think
3797s	the Ancients are going to handle this
3799s	I'll be honest with you I mean in the
3802s	context as well that if they lose this
3804s	match they are out of contention having
3805s	already lost
3806s	um you know half an hour ago in their
3807s	previous match this to me looks like a
3810s	very very dire situation for the
3811s	Ancients
3812s	um I feel like this these Nighthawks and
3814s	Loki is just going to absolutely Ram in
3815s	of course they have the webs from the
3817s	low-keys these sight Fleet issues are
3818s	very fast and on the ancient side it's
3821s	four battle Cruisers Navy battle
3823s	Cruisers three of them but of course
3824s	they still have tech one resist so they
3826s	are just gonna melt like paper mache and
3828s	the paper Mash doesn't melt melt like
3830s	butter that's a better analogy and of
3831s	course the Redeemer here I think also we
3833s	haven't seen it very often but I think
3834s	it's this is probably a pretty
3836s	unfavorable matchup for it I feel like
3838s	that kind of with the ramping reps
3839s	works best in a sort of slow or
3841s	traditional match where you know the
3843s	opponent doesn't have a huge amount of
3844s	DPS you get time to get those ramps up
3845s	to sustain something to keep it going
3847s	and slowly Whittle the enemy down but in
3850s	this match against a rush it's exactly
3851s	the opposite of what you want the redeem
3853s	is going to start cycling on someone and
3854s	before he gets a chance to ramp up
3855s	they're gonna pop
3858s	yeah I'm very concerned we'll see if
3860s	they do the correct thing they're
3861s	already being rushed and unfortunately
3863s	the ancient says I decided to not move
3865s	any of their ships which is an
3867s	interesting choice uh maybe trying to
3868s	get that initial burst of damage doing a
3870s	lot of damage to xalia right off the bat
3872s	but on laser Hawks is already in so deep
3875s	on top of them not any damage coming out
3878s	from them quite yet so I'm wondering
3879s	what laser Hawks is playing here it does
3880s	look like they're going to be going
3881s	after Alice Stone's verdict's Navy issue
3883s	if that Ro Diva maybe starts
3884s	pre-wrapping it might work out but I
3886s	don't see any reps landing at all yet
3888s	radiva being a little bit and that issue
3892s	is
3892s	yeah that's still a lot okay now it's
3895s	gone uh so yeah
3898s	yeah this is It's not what ancients
3900s	wanted to see and this is one of the
3901s	strengths that we've seen from Minotaur
3903s	rush and these just sort of General Rush
3905s	comps that so many teams have brought is
3906s	in this two band format they are so hard
3908s	to get rid of you've got to deal with
3909s	Loki's and Nighthawks and sleptness and
3911s	scimitars and basilisks and slightly
3913s	Fleet issues and all these different
3914s	ships that can all be sort of plugged
3915s	and played into this comp very very
3916s	interchangeably three different command
3918s	ships is Claymore as well that can fit
3919s	straight in as Corinth throwing the
3920s	harbinger Navy is going to go down it's
3922s	very very difficult to stop a team from
3924s	actually bringing this sort of comp so
3926s	you need to make sure that when you do
3927s	bring a comp to the field you need to
3930s	sort of have a plan for dealing with
3932s	what is a very very likely comp but if
3934s	you if you leave it open or indeed if
3936s	you try and ban out the opponents May
3937s	well just bring it anyway
3940s	yeah it's uh it's it's pretty
3942s	unfortunate uh hurricane Fleet dropping
3944s	now too before the Loki has even dropped
3946s	at all I'm I don't know like I like the
3949s	Ancients comp it's such a cool little
3950s	setup it's something we haven't seen
3952s	before uh maybe if they had actually
3954s	like tried to screen at all or move
3956s	their ships at all when the match
3957s	started instead of just standing there
3959s	and taking it something could have gone
3960s	a little differently this rodiva not
3962s	quite pulling it off like we're almost
3964s	seeing these ships catch like they're
3965s	getting so low and then they're dropping
3967s	like you can see the ramps the ramping
3969s	reps going up they're just not ramping
3971s	fast enough and pretty much the entire
3974s	front line of ancients is already down
3976s	for a single Loki this is going to be a
3979s	really really quick match
3981s	yeah I feel like if you're going to run
3983s	a sort of full battle cruiser comp like
3984s	this you need to sort of index more into
3986s	range control the ishimu is really the
3988s	only thing on their team that's capable
3989s	of doing that and even that has tech one
3991s	resist so I'd much rather see let's say
3992s	like a 10mm hyena which has much greater
3995s	survivability
3996s	um and I mean the right the support Wing
3999s	needs to follow that sort of Ideal I
4001s	mean the Mala here is the only thing
4003s	really that I I really like here the
4005s	celestis is in my opinion basically
4008s	useless in this comp these battle
4009s	Cruisers are going to be long range gun
4011s	fit they're going to have rail guns
4012s	they're going to have beams on the
4013s	harbinger they are going to be trying to
4015s	get away they don't want to face rush
4017s	and if you're bringing damps the amps
4019s	are effective when you want to force the
4021s	enemy in close to you which is exactly
4022s	what they don't want in this matchup so
4024s	I would much prefer if the Ancients had
4025s	brought you know things to range control
4027s	maybe some assault frigates to ADC and
4030s	hold under reps from the ramping reps of
4032s	the RO Diva rather than you know Navy
4034s	order or celesters which are just going
4035s	to melt with tech one resists
4039s	yeah I just I don't know I think that
4041s	like there there might have been a
4042s	chance here if the Ancients had like
4044s	kind of played this significantly
4046s	differently
4047s	um you know warping at 50 actually go
4049s	away from the guys rushing you instead
4050s	of just sitting there you know they're
4052s	like I don't quite understand what their
4054s	thought process here uh I again I like
4056s	the Ancients comp it's a good setup I
4058s	think that you know what they did is
4060s	they thought okay well we banned the
4061s	slepner therefore we can't be Minotaur
4063s	rushed forgetting that there's like a
4066s	ton of other ships in the Minotaur Rush
4068s	that you can use including the notman
4069s	matar Nighthawk so yeah it's really
4072s	unfortunate models even better for some
4074s	teams because it's just so easy to
4076s	execute as well like with slapna you
4077s	have to think about all these pesky
4078s	things like range and tracking whereas
4080s	the nighthole which we use to create
4081s	affect ourselves you literally just get
4084s	your micro up drive you approach the
4086s	enemy and you fire your missiles and
4087s	then you can just sort of go AFK go make
4089s	a cup of tea or something and you're
4090s	going to keep pumping out that 1100 DPS
4091s	and whatever you're shooting and there's
4092s	not much the opponent can really do
4094s	about it so it's very sort of execution
4098s	um agnostic is the term I would I think
4100s	I would use where there's not a huge
4102s	amount of
4103s	of barrier of using it you know the onus
4105s	is on the other team to out pilot you
4109s	yeah which definitely did not happen
4111s	from the ancient side here uh very
4114s	unfortunate uh they're definitely going
4116s	to be going down here quite soon I think
4118s	this is just a a good reminder to
4120s	everybody because even though laser
4121s	Hawks wins this they're still gonna have
4122s	to play at least two or three more
4123s	matches today that you need to move away
4126s	from Minotaur rush and be aware of it
4129s	it's still very strong but with that
4130s	laser Hawks does win 100 to 17 and we're
4133s	going to send it right back to the desk
4135s	with Ithaca and the boys
4144s	thank you
4149s	[Music]
4159s	[Music]
4168s	[Music]
4174s	[Music]
4184s	[Music]
4193s	thank you
4198s	laser Hawks taking that win over the
4200s	entrance there in a pretty commanding
4202s	Victory like they
4205s	predicted almost what was going to
4207s	happen there from the Ancients ancient
4209s	says black pirate saying uh probably
4210s	banning at that slept near anticipating
4213s	that the rush would be banned out as
4214s	well but just getting uh out out picked
4218s	with that Nighthawk uh Choice there uh
4221s	Alec the Nighthawk Loki we saw a lot of
4224s	that in Alliance open uh we had uh Baza
4227s	talking about it being so strong there
4228s	what makes that comp just so powerful
4232s	uh the overwhelming amount of damage uh
4235s	the Nighthawk when it's configured to
4237s	brawl
4238s	is absolutely insane it's got a massive
4242s	tank massive amount of damage good
4244s	application
4245s	the Loki webs mean you will hit whatever
4248s	your primary is for 100 of the damage
4252s	your ship is shelling out does have some
4254s	weaknesses it's a little bit slower
4256s	which again the Loki kind of uh kind of
4259s	compensates for that by being really
4261s	fast and Landing that long range tackle
4263s	allowing your Nighthawks to get on top
4265s	of them
4265s	it does have some weaknesses in its
4268s	capacitor tank wise but the ashimu never
4271s	bothered to denote them so I never
4273s	really went through that
4274s	overall it was a really good answer to
4278s	what I thought just looking at it as the
4279s	match started to a pretty good ancients
4281s	comp but ancients just could not execute
4284s	it correctly the radiva Reps were late
4287s	um they're Target calling I thought was
4289s	pretty good shooting one of the Loki's
4292s	first but uh they just didn't follow it
4295s	up by applying their newts to enemy
4297s	Logistics or to the primary target even
4300s	uh meanwhile mimitar Rush is so much
4303s	damage so fast it can really cause a
4306s	panic in some teams because you're just
4308s	losing ships left and right
4312s	and speaking of uh ships uh it's been
4315s	pointed out that the Ancients had shown
4318s	a very very significant variety of comps
4321s	fielded over the the past couple of
4323s	weekends of course we saw their torpedo
4326s	Battleship comp we saw that
4328s	um a badon laser Rush comp we've seen
4331s	this uh variation of what gentana
4333s	believe your team called the quad mummy
4335s	comp
4337s	um as a as a team 3D crafter and person
4340s	running uh practices can you talk to me
4342s	about maybe the the pros and cons of uh
4345s	diversity versus just picking one or two
4348s	comps and executing them and practicing
4349s	them really well
4351s	yeah so one of the there's a there's
4354s	some upsides and some downsides the
4356s	upside is that when you get deeper into
4358s	a tournament like this you have a lot
4360s	more tricks to pull out your bag you're
4362s	um a lot more able to deal with bands
4364s	and kind of move effectively based up
4366s	around what your opponents have brought
4368s	in the past uh you know I think we saw a
4370s	little bit of that in uh the we're
4373s	probably gonna see a little bit of that
4374s	come into effect against kitchen
4375s	sinkhole if people think that they've
4377s	found a really strong counter to mimitar
4380s	rush for example we're gonna see that
4382s	get brought against them which is
4384s	something that you aren't going to be
4385s	able to do if you're focusing on one or
4387s	two specific
4389s	um specific compositions but flying the
4392s	same composition over and over again or
4395s	compositions that work in the same sort
4397s	of manner allows your team to get really
4400s	really used to understanding the win
4402s	conditions it lets you lets people get
4405s	really used to Flying individual ships
4407s	uh that they might not fly a lot on TQ
4410s	for example we see a lot of ships get
4412s	used for example like the ashimu and the
4415s	Absolution and even the to a degree the
4417s	typhoon Fleet issue in a tournament
4420s	setting that aren't heavily used in
4422s	Tranquility PVP
4424s	and getting used to all of the nuances
4426s	of flying those ships uh can be quite
4429s	difficult for Pilots especially when
4431s	you've got on top of that the burden of
4433s	communicating quite heavily about hey
4435s	the ship's tackling me you know and
4437s	understanding okay that means that this
4439s	part of my comp can maybe clear it or no
4441s	I need to deal with that myself
4443s	these are all things that you can only
4445s	learn by practicing them extensively
4448s	um so you're typically seeing newer
4450s	teams have one to two compositions uh
4453s	that they really focus in on and try and
4456s	get good at executing and unfortunately
4458s	here it looks like the Ancients spread
4460s	themselves a little bit too thin I think
4462s	if they if they were to come back in
4464s	next year they'd want to grab one
4466s	composition that works in a fairly
4468s	similar way and just grind it out learn
4470s	all the nuances the ins and outs of How
4472s	It's flown and then come in and just
4475s	hope you don't run up against the
4476s	counter or ideally identify the counter
4478s	and ban it out for example here I think
4481s	a a broadsword low-key ban would
4484s	probably have been significantly better
4485s	than the slept near I can't remember
4488s	what the other thing they banned was
4490s	um which are because those are the two
4493s	heavy tackle ships that can really get
4495s	on top of you and just slow you down and
4497s	Tackle you up
4501s	okay that's an interesting one I suppose
4504s	that's that's fairly good but you know
4506s	you can deal with Jaguars you can deal
4508s	with Ripples broadswords and Loki's
4510s	coming at you in battle Cruisers they're
4511s	gonna outspeed you and they're going to
4513s	be so tanky that you can't kill them
4515s	quickly enough to get away
4517s	I think what might have been way more
4519s	interesting for the Ancients as if
4521s	they're battle Cruisers were fit for
4522s	brawl as well and not fit to
4525s	shoot at long range because they the
4527s	celestes kind of suggests that that's
4529s	maybe what they were hoping for they
4531s	really didn't have the rest of the low
4532s	end to support that no tackle uh putting
4535s	all your eggs in one damp basket not
4538s	great
4539s	the semi I think was a good band for
4542s	what
4543s	they had to counter Logic the ishimu the
4545s	ishimu's newts are not very long range
4547s	so if you were counting on Logistics
4550s	frigates coming in close that would have
4552s	been a great answer
4553s	if maybe you were
4555s	thought there might be like a basilisk
4556s	get range the celestes might have been a
4558s	great answer but having both of them
4559s	just didn't agree with each other
4561s	and I think that's sort of emblematic of
4564s	their comp there's a lot of good parts
4567s	that didn't all fit well together and
4569s	certainly weren't a good setup for what
4572s	I think they were hoping to fight
4575s	so Alec in terms of building a comp you
4579s	talk about this one being a little bit
4580s	disjointed uh you know how does a team
4584s	go about building a complex where do you
4586s	start
4588s	I think you need to start with your core
4591s	um and that is kind of informed by what
4593s	you want a general concept to be do you
4597s	want to be at range do you want to be in
4599s	close do you want to focus on a ton of
4601s	damage up front do you want to focus on
4604s	more of a long grindy control match
4608s	once you figure out the answers to those
4610s	questions then there are certain ships
4612s	that kind of lend themselves to that
4613s	strategy as a good starting point
4616s	if you want a massive amount of damage
4619s	up front you're probably looking for
4621s	either ships with a lot of Alpha and
4624s	good projection in which case you'll
4626s	then need to build some kind of tracking
4628s	or control low end around that
4631s	or you're looking for insane DPS up
4635s	close and personal in which case you're
4637s	probably looking to put other short
4639s	range tackle in there with it maybe
4641s	bring in some additional low end DPS to
4644s	try to make sure that whatever you're
4646s	getting you can grind through whatever
4647s	Logistics support they're going to get
4650s	you've seen different teams apply
4652s	different strategies
4654s	pretty effectively
4656s	um I think was it anger games or last
4658s	year's Alliance tournament the abandoned
4661s	big pile of hit points big pile of
4663s	damage comp
4664s	that was really effective it was it was
4667s	something we hadn't really seen before
4668s	but at in its core it was really just a
4672s	high upfront projected damage comp
4674s	with everything else built around that
4676s	idea so you've got to come up with your
4678s	core concept and then there are some
4680s	variations you can play with mimitar
4682s	rush I think being one of the most
4684s	versatile for all the reasons we touched
4685s	on here it's really difficult to ban out
4688s	even if you do been out some of the key
4690s	Minotaur ships there are some caldari
4692s	ships which can be swapped in
4694s	and it is very difficult for certain
4698s	comps to counter it absolutely does have
4700s	its counters but if you haven't brought
4702s	them that it does either very well or
4705s	about on par with most of the other
4707s	comps you can find in the alliance
4709s	tournament
4711s	and jintan so you've taken Alex advice
4714s	you've come up with a a concept and
4717s	you've refined that into uh this this
4719s	comp that you've created you've got all
4721s	the fits and it's time to practice what
4723s	what are you looking for in practice are
4725s	you just doing match after match after
4727s	match or is it something perhaps more
4729s	organized
4732s	um generally it depends on how practiced
4734s	your team is like and how much
4736s	experience they have within a tournament
4738s	setting
4739s	what I tend to focus on um is is
4742s	communication I try and give people a
4744s	direction of like this is what you what
4745s	I want you to be talking to me about you
4747s	know go through all the pilots sort of
4749s	explain their roles
4751s	um and then afterwards you know after
4753s	the match is actually completed what
4755s	you'll probably do is you'll have all of
4757s	your Pilots record their their uh their
4760s	point of view during the match and then
4763s	you'll be able to after the end of the
4765s	scrims go through a couple of key
4767s	matches where you felt things didn't
4768s	work as well as they should have or you
4770s	felt that there might have been some
4771s	execution issues and you go through them
4773s	and you ask people to show them the vods
4775s	and you sort of Coach them and you point
4778s	out okay at this point you know this
4780s	happened you know what what were you
4782s	thinking at this moment let's try and uh
4785s	you know maybe
4786s	help you to understand what the win
4788s	conditions of this compar where you need
4790s	to be and this specific instance or how
4792s	you need to react to this certain threat
4794s	or even sometimes like hey you got
4797s	scrammed here did you just not notice it
4798s	no I didn't notice it it happens next
4801s	time we'll get you know next time just
4803s	make sure you're keeping an eye on it
4804s	and communicating that as soon as you
4806s	can
4807s	um
4808s	it's always going to be it's always a
4809s	learning process I don't think anyone
4811s	has flown a single Eve online tournament
4814s	match without making a mistake it is you
4816s	know Eve's such a complex game that you
4818s	I don't think it's possible to do that
4820s	it's just about minimizing your mistakes
4822s	and making sure that the mistakes you
4825s	make aren't going to lose your team the
4826s	match
4829s	cool let's uh before we move on to our
4831s	next match we've had four matches in
4834s	this group stage here in the Redemption
4835s	bracket two more still to go let's take
4838s	a look at the standings for the the
4840s	nephantar tribe here in this Redemption
4844s	bracket
4850s	we don't have the standings ready uh
4852s	well let's not take a look at that let's
4854s	instead just take a look at the bands
4855s	for what this is called versus kitchen
4858s	sinkhole instead and we'll look at the
4860s	standings a little bit later uh so
4862s	Odin's call choosing to ban out the Loki
4865s	and the slip here so
4868s	um perhaps targeting against that lucky
4869s	uh slept near Rush very directly here
4873s	saying we don't want to see that at all
4874s	kitchen sinkhole Banning the zoramas and
4877s	the balgorn uh Alec what are you making
4880s	of these bands here from these two teams
4884s	I think Odin's call is quite rightly
4886s	trying to take away as much of Minotaur
4888s	Rush as they can from Kitchen sinkhole
4890s	kitchen sinkhole Banning the balgorn
4892s	tells me they might be replacing
4894s	sleffner's with Nighthawks
4898s	I I think the Bal is not very scary to
4901s	mimich our Command ships but could be
4903s	very scary for kaldari command ships
4906s	and jintan the the Loki slept near ban
4910s	um extremely targeted or do you think
4912s	this uh multiple comps this is going to
4915s	ban out here that Odin's call may be
4917s	afraid of
4919s	uh this is actually uh some bands that
4921s	we've seen Odin's call use a couple of
4923s	times so far in this tournament I think
4925s	they just don't like the optimal version
4927s	of mimitar Rush um or at least the
4930s	double slap near one Loki or double slap
4932s	in a double Loki version that we've seen
4933s	on a couple of other good teams bring
4936s	um
4937s	so I but equally it's an amazing
4940s	targeted band uh this is just something
4942s	that this match is only going to be
4943s	played for seeding though so if there is
4945s	any chart if you know if there's any
4947s	point that kitchen sinkhole can bring
4950s	out something that isn't mimitar rush
4952s	you know they've got a basically a game
4954s	in hand here they can lose this and
4955s	still progress through to the uh main
4958s	tournament as we form blob have gone 0
4960s	and 2 in the bracket so the worst result
4962s	that they can have is one on one which
4964s	would still put them through into the
4966s	playoffs you know maybe they can prove
4969s	that these bands uh whilst they are
4970s	targeted might be wasted
4973s	I think it must be a good idea if I can
4975s	do that because it oh sorry Ithaca
4978s	nope that's quite all right I was just
4979s	going to say speaking of that uh that
4980s	bracket we can now look at the standings
4982s	uh in this group here so we can see
4984s	kitchen sink on Odin's called both
4986s	currently tied on one win a piece in
4989s	group a kitchen tinkle with the
4991s	tiebreaker uh with a 71 rust score uh we
4994s	form blob sitting at the bottom with
4996s	zero they are eliminated Group B also
4999s	laser Hawks one and pizza uh Picasso
5002s	peacetime diplomacy on one with the
5004s	Ancients being eliminated on zero uh
5006s	laser Hawks breaking the tie uh with the
5009s	rust score of 57 to Picasso Pizza times
5011s	two at this point all those four teams
5014s	at the top of the brackets here are
5016s	through to the next stage however they
5018s	are playing for seeding position now as
5020s	the group a winner will face Group B
5022s	runner-up and group a runner-up will
5024s	face the group b winner so these matches
5027s	are still important to decide who you're
5029s	playing next
5031s	um but it's pretty much time to go to
5032s	the arena and find out
5033s	our Odin's call going to take this
5036s	victory over kitchen sinkhole and go to
5037s	no or our kitchen sinkhole going to be
5040s	the team that's going to know in group a
5042s	well let's hand over and find out with
5044s	the casters Wingnut cross and Ithaca
5046s	Hawk
5054s	g'day there mates welcome to the next
5055s	match and we have a double the shack
5057s	comp versus a well
5059s	honestly I might be sure what to call
5060s	this to be honest double Claymore and
5062s	hurricane comp I guess mimitar Rush at a
5065s	different form
5067s	yeah I mean it's Minotaur it can Rush uh
5070s	we'll certainly see if that's what they
5071s	choose to do
5072s	um this double the shack comp but the
5075s	curse should certainly be interesting
5076s	there is
5078s	um a lot of power in those uh those
5080s	curses in terms of uh long range
5082s	tracking disruptures guidance
5083s	disruptions and so on but if they've
5084s	brought track disruptors it's not going
5086s	to be a huge amount of use here against
5087s	these claimers so let us see what goes
5090s	on as the match is underway and who's
5092s	rushing into who
5094s	exactly and this is interesting as well
5096s	what the celestis as well is extra
5097s	backup damn so this is going to be a lot
5098s	of evil and the Shacks as well have
5099s	utility highs to add even more smart
5102s	bombs nuke whatever you want this is
5104s	honestly a lot of control hey look at
5106s	that look at the buff owners calls uh
5108s	control bar there that goes all the way
5109s	to the roof
5111s	yeah solid girth in that control bar
5113s	there we saw briefly um kitchen sinkhole
5116s	their fly catcher burning a little bit
5117s	towards the Odin's call team trying to
5119s	get in position to do some screening uh
5121s	before he got a little bit of cold feet
5122s	and turned around the claimer of provoke
5124s	Burning uh in a different direction from
5127s	the team may be getting a little bit of
5128s	position he looks like he might be about
5129s	to start turning the rest of this team
5131s	staying very close together as these
5133s	little Shacks trundle forward across the
5135s	battlefield with the rest of their team
5137s	behind them
5138s	yep the mall is coming alongside them as
5140s	well but I'm waiting for that mall or
5141s	maybe something else to try and go for a
5142s	lunge and Tackle something but honestly
5143s	they can take their time with us they've
5145s	got enough control with this e-war to
5147s	really just do whatever they want
5149s	pick their moment and go for it
5151s	yeah this is a comp that um audans have
5154s	brought here that is going to reward
5155s	patience and positioning they're going
5157s	to want to grab something get in and
5159s	just punch it in the face but if they do
5161s	it too quickly they could be caught out
5162s	of position you can see right now the Le
5164s	Shacks are the ones that are leading the
5166s	way uh the Paradigm and kernel carts you
5168s	have right behind them the molar and in
5170s	their backfield the fly catcher on top
5172s	of the Confessor who's been screened off
5173s	as the sky breaker flees for his life
5176s	away so they're doing a good job
5178s	defending their back line uh but as I
5180s	say that a hugin just burning straight
5182s	into the back line of Odin's call here
5185s	yeah he can goes in I think he is
5186s	tackling that curse right down now also
5189s	the uh fly catcher is also being uh
5190s	pressured off but this is honestly not
5192s	too good with that curse now being
5194s	potentially held down
5197s	yeah it looks like audience called
5198s	perhaps overextended a little bit
5200s	because they're the Shacks are out of
5201s	position against some of the heavy DPS
5203s	ships they need to be applying to
5207s	I would honestly just love if this boss
5208s	has been damping like a hugging and I'm
5210s	also oh you can throw a curse but I
5212s	don't think he is he's damping out the
5213s	Celesta so a bit of a dample going in
5215s	there cheap ass mullus damping out of
5217s	celestis a little bit more expensive all
5218s	right this whole thing's been safe on
5220s	kitchen sinkhole is about to get
5222s	skadunka dunked he's got all the Eeyore
5223s	on them all the DPS he is about to just
5226s	absolutely vanish 73 meters per second
5228s	not good he's not getting away look 87
5230s	in the fleet side first blood for Odin's
5233s	coal here and in the moment none of them
5236s	are being tested all of those ships are
5238s	full armor uh toast brought and ERD void
5241s	daughter in the Italia Deacon combo
5243s	doing a great job keeping everybody
5244s	topped up
5246s	the interesting little note as well as
5248s	the sky breaker of alpha chalk has kind
5249s	of been a blasting off rap drones off of
5251s	that curse and you see there's a massive
5252s	ball of Earth reference in the middle as
5254s	well so there's just a lot of drones
5256s	being deleted by the sky breaker is
5257s	going to definitely be worth his points
5259s	and that curse is holding now but I'm
5261s	curious to see what they're gonna do I
5263s	think at this point he's pretty much
5265s	safe as the Claymore has now been hard
5267s	and tackled he's gonna go down
5270s	yeah it's but this is the patience that
5272s	we talked about here it's called trying
5274s	to keep through the the team together
5276s	and well positioned they have the
5278s	Confessor flying around in the backfield
5279s	just trying to make sure nobody gets
5281s	near them meanwhile if you look at the
5282s	kitchen sink called jackdaw and Scimitar
5284s	they've been sitting at range but all of
5286s	a sudden that seminar burning in he must
5288s	have just been damped uh yeah it looks
5290s	like he was damped so he cannot rep that
5292s	Claymore very well so he's having to
5293s	burn in close to these little Shacks to
5295s	uh to get his reps on that's not a good
5297s	position for him if he gets tackled now
5299s	this could be pretty much a game over
5300s	here uh well he's now well within uh
5304s	well within the newting range of that
5306s	curse as well so he's actually right
5308s	there and he's already been somewhat
5309s	tackled yeah
5313s	primary
5316s	I Could Be Clever play there from Odin's
5319s	call holding off on those stamps uh on
5321s	that Scimitar rather than just slapping
5322s	them on at the beginning and let him get
5324s	used to the range you let that Scimitar
5326s	fly around comfortably a long way away
5328s	and you wait till you start spilling on
5329s	something like that claimer and then all
5331s	of a sudden you put the dance on and
5333s	then that Scimitar has to burn in and
5335s	try and re-lock and if he gets too close
5337s	then this is exactly what happens he's
5338s	tackled his webbed he is muted and uh
5341s	it's not going to be very comfortable
5342s	for him in that position I didn't think
5344s	it was gonna be the primary but I don't
5345s	think it matters anymore they've got a
5346s	pretty much a full moon just sitting on
5348s	his face he was not going to be wrapping
5350s	up anyone Amy time series you can see
5351s	with this hurricane he was just getting
5354s	chunked quickly he's not exactly a tanky
5356s	ship and it's without logic he's even
5358s	less tanky
5360s	the Scimitar they're not actually
5361s	choosing to shoot him right now they've
5362s	got him webbed they've got him scrammed
5363s	and they're muting them they're choosing
5364s	just to essentially ignore him and keep
5366s	spilling up on the uh the ships that
5369s	they're that they're dpsing the Le shark
5371s	of course just spills and Spills and
5373s	Spills and the Damage gets higher and
5375s	higher and higher swapping targets will
5376s	break that spill and at the moment
5378s	they're showing that they can punch
5379s	through the Reps of this Scimitar on
5382s	that hurricane as he goes down as well
5384s	yeah that's unfortunate they like they
5386s	had a potential win con here to just
5388s	avoid this uh this checks and Those comp
5390s	as best as they could but that was gonna
5391s	be a hard come to try and get past you
5393s	got this big ball of a death from the
5395s	curse you've got obviously the DPS ball
5397s	from the less Jacks and you've got great
5398s	tackle and uh support wing with the
5399s	vexer and the more so it's honestly a
5402s	pretty dangerous comfortable approach if
5403s	you don't quite have a plan I honestly
5405s	don't know if they had one they tried to
5407s	get to the back line that was the one
5408s	thing and then after that what
5411s	I would say both teams piloted
5414s	um pretty well in this instance we saw
5415s	both of them being cautious uh Odin's
5418s	called trundling for behind the Shacks
5420s	not overextending meanwhile um the
5422s	kitchen tinkle team were playing quite
5423s	defensively they were they were kiting
5425s	away trying to wait for that opportunity
5427s	to dive in and hit something the court
5429s	Odin's caught a little better position
5430s	at one point as Odin's overextended uh
5433s	but they weren't able to capitalize on
5434s	and then Odin's called recognizing that
5436s	mistake uh got back together again in a
5438s	bowl and uh I've been pretty much fine
5440s	ever since and that allowed them to just
5442s	start slowly dismantling the kitchen
5444s	Central team the Scimitar must feel very
5447s	useless right now is there's absolutely
5448s	nothing he can do he's just tackled web
5451s	muted and likely being held to be the
5454s	last man to go down
5457s	honestly I am a personal fan of the uh
5459s	the Morse over the celestis as a support
5461s	damp ship but obviously that must have
5463s	been a bad call because the celestis did
5465s	win you know cough cough that's
5466s	definitely the reason why they won not
5468s	the curse that has been flown very well
5470s	by yokan at Saba
5472s	yeah I mean sometimes we talk about uh
5474s	control comps armor control being a very
5477s	popular one uh and yeah I mean the size
5479s	of that control bar for reference that
5482s	control bar is basically based on the
5484s	number of uh offensive e-war modules and
5488s	then the more Greener is the more of
5489s	them are being applied so eight newts
5491s	would be eight parts of that bar uh
5494s	guidance instructors things like that so
5496s	those are the Shacks probably both
5498s	carrying uh heavy utility units as well
5500s	in their in their High slots having to
5502s	only bring one single spilly boy gun uh
5505s	lots of yeah
5507s	they brought a lot of e-boards we're
5509s	going to get the more is four new I
5510s	don't think there's guns in the vexal
5512s	which means that's probably also four
5513s	new or smart bomb so honestly they
5515s	brought an absolutely ungodly amount of
5517s	e-water this comp and it honestly showed
5519s	they didn't lack on DPS unless of course
5521s	the last check goes down but respect
5523s	well done two Odin's here
5525s	yeah Odin's uh potentially back on Forum
5529s	today taking we Farm blob comfortably
5531s	now taking uh kitchen sinkhole
5534s	comfortably as well in what will be a
5536s	100 to zero Victory here securing
5539s	themselves to zero in the uh nefontaric
5543s	group a so the Odin's called winning
5545s	that particular group they'll go forward
5547s	into the semi-finals a little bit later
5549s	today but there's another match to go
5552s	before then so let's hand it back to the
5553s	studio
5561s	thank you
5570s	[Laughter]
5587s	foreign
5594s	[Music]
5608s	[Music]
5615s	[Music]
5628s	Odin's call there taking the W over
5630s	kitchen senko and securing themselves
5633s	the top spot in the niffen tour 8 group
5636s	there one more match before a short
5638s	break to find out who will take the top
5640s	spot in the uh nephronic Group B uh in
5643s	Picasso Pizza Time diplomacy versus
5645s	laser Hawks but uh jintan what did you
5648s	make of the piloting in that last
5649s	matchup it looked like it was pretty
5651s	solid from both sides to be honest
5653s	uh yeah I think that just goes to show
5656s	what I talked about
5657s	um in just in the time we had to fill
5659s	before the match began about the team
5661s	that will win is not the team that makes
5663s	no mistakes it's the team that makes the
5665s	least mistakes uh we saw Odin's cool
5668s	kind of spread out their tackle Wing
5670s	maybe a little too far from their
5671s	deacons during the early game uh and
5674s	kitchen sinkhole looked like they might
5675s	move to capitalize on that but they
5677s	noticed they pulled everything back they
5679s	got back into their blob they made sure
5681s	that those curse newts were going to be
5682s	there to protect any protect against any
5686s	tackle that came in and they slowly
5688s	moved around the grid waited for kitchen
5690s	sinkhole to lose their patients
5693s	um and dive back in for the deacons
5696s	um which you know there's some debate
5698s	about what you really want to Primary in
5700s	that comp it's a really hard matchup for
5702s	um
5703s	uh for memital Rush to win anyway but
5706s	going on the deacons when you have heavy
5708s	assault missiles as opposed to the power
5710s	that you normally have uh to control
5712s	your own tracking with the slutness uh
5715s	uh it seems like a rough cool you're
5717s	going to apply so much better to that
5718s	curse especially if you can get right on
5720s	top of it
5722s	um and yeah from that point after
5725s	kitchen sinkhole got engaged and they
5727s	didn't really clear anything off uh
5729s	within the first couple of minutes first
5731s	couple of seconds of that engage
5733s	that was kind of game for them it was
5735s	going to be so difficult for them to
5736s	claw it back after that point
5739s	and Alex do you think kitchen sinkhole
5741s	could have done much different there or
5744s	um was was that match always going to be
5746s	an uphill battle for them
5749s	I think it was going to be an uphill
5751s	battle they had a great sphere of
5753s	control uh elton's called it kitchen
5756s	sinkhole did what they did the previous
5758s	couple matches they showed a lot of
5760s	restraint they positioned well they
5762s	spread their Fleet out looking for a
5764s	hole trying to get their opponent to
5766s	overextend and then dive into the back
5768s	line that's been their MO consistently
5771s	and they've done it very well but
5773s	unfortunately they've ran into a comp
5775s	which had a good deal of projection with
5778s	those long-range curse newts with the Le
5780s	Shack notes
5781s	so there was only so close they could
5783s	get without essentially being stuck
5786s	committing because they couldn't escape
5789s	and they I don't know if it was a
5791s	mistake that they realized or maybe it
5793s	was even intentional bait but they just
5796s	they spread their line out just a little
5798s	bit
5799s	and kitchen sink was like oh just like
5801s	the last match let's go in and get them
5803s	and then as they dived in they realized
5806s	it was just a little too late they got
5808s	caught by the newts they had key
5810s	elements of their comp pinned down
5812s	trapped and unfortunately that Drew the
5816s	rest of their comp in to try to save
5817s	them which is ultimately their downfall
5819s	here but I it really would have been an
5822s	uphill battle I don't know what exactly
5824s	they could have done differently to get
5826s	a different outcome going up against
5828s	Tula shacks and a curse with a competent
5830s	Logistics Wing was always going to be a
5832s	challenge
5836s	advancing to the next stage uh hoping to
5839s	secure themselves that final spot into
5841s	alliance Tournament 18. of course we
5843s	will find out in a little bit if they
5845s	can actually secure that to get there
5847s	and we are going to have a series of
5850s	matches so after this next one we will
5852s	have the group uh standing sorted
5855s	odensco as you can see top of group a
5857s	and we're just waiting to find out who
5858s	will be top of Group B the group a
5861s	winner will play group b runner-up and
5863s	vice versa and that will decide uh the
5865s	two teams that Advance into the final
5867s	the final in this case will be a best of
5870s	three so the teams will play three
5872s	matches back to back to back and the
5875s	winner being the one that either goes
5876s	two and all or two one in these
5879s	particular matchups this will also be
5880s	the first time for many of these teams
5882s	they have faced something in our
5884s	instrument that we call Conquest bands
5886s	gentan explain Conquest bands to me
5890s	Conquest bands uh it's pretty simple if
5893s	you win with a ship you can't bring it
5895s	again in the future uh this kind of
5897s	Forces teams uh to
5901s	have quite a wide depth of compositions
5904s	ready to go if they want to actually win
5907s	a best of three or a best of five as we
5910s	sometimes see in the grand finals of the
5912s	tournaments
5913s	um and it also gives your opponents a
5916s	bit of a leg up as they know that you
5918s	can't bring certain compositions so for
5921s	example if your opponents bring mimitar
5923s	Rush uh they you don't even have to
5926s	spend your bands sort of making sure
5928s	that your opponents can't bring it in
5929s	the next game you can be fairly certain
5931s	that they're not going to be able to
5932s	bring that and then bring something like
5934s	a rhml kite set up with bar guests that
5938s	your opponents would really want to run
5940s	a rush against
5941s	and you leave yourself free to use your
5943s	bands to take out other parts of
5947s	comps that your opponents might be
5948s	particularly strong at that you're
5949s	worried about
5951s	I'm looking forward this year uh to
5954s	seeing how Conquest band is going to
5956s	interact with Point inflation so this
5959s	year if you bring multiple of the same
5961s	ship then they cost one point more per
5964s	each one you bring so if a ship is five
5966s	points and you bring two of them then
5968s	each of them is six or twelve points
5970s	total if you bring three of them and
5972s	each one is seven for 21 points total uh
5975s	so it costs you a lot more however
5977s	um Alec what do you think about let's
5979s	say for example you wanted to bring
5981s	Talia Deacon if you won in Conquest with
5984s	Talia Deacon you've now got Talia Deacon
5986s	banned do you think then it's worth
5988s	sacrificing those two extra points to
5990s	bring say two deacons meaning that you
5991s	can still bring two taliers the next
5993s	time
5994s	foreign yeah I think potentially it
5997s	would especially for those smaller ships
6000s	um if there are multiple ships that
6003s	could fill a certain role rather than
6005s	lose two of them for the next match it
6007s	might just be worth two maybe even three
6009s	points to try to get that versatility
6012s	but I think it also depends on what your
6015s	team has done in practices
6017s	if you've specialized like we've talked
6020s	about before and just run one comp and
6021s	focus on executing that one comp really
6024s	really well
6025s	you're going to have a much harder time
6027s	in these late stages of the tournament
6029s	because it's going to be very difficult
6031s	even for mimitar Rush to sustain that
6034s	comp when you keep losing ships every
6037s	time you win with it uh you've got to
6039s	have some kind of backup meanwhile teams
6041s	that have
6042s	uh
6044s	trained and tested multiple comps
6046s	multiple different variations of armor
6049s	and shield rush and kite and long range
6051s	projection
6052s	they've got a much deeper grab bag to
6055s	reach into and pull something out that
6057s	keeps them fresh there are so many ships
6062s	and Eve
6063s	um a lot of them do similar things some
6065s	better than others some better in
6067s	certain circumstances
6068s	so it's absolutely possible to put
6070s	together a string of winning comps
6072s	without
6074s	having to repeat the core ships
6076s	but it is much much much more difficult
6079s	to train to be able to do that
6082s	Conquest bands usually something
6085s	reserved for the the semi-finals or the
6088s	grand finals in the main Alliance
6090s	tournament so a lot of the teams that
6092s	we're seeing here in these mimitar
6094s	trials will never have experienced or
6096s	had any practice with these Conquest
6098s	bands it's a completely different ball
6101s	game to try and get through in fact I
6104s	was talking with one of the teams who
6105s	shall remain nameless to protect their
6108s	honor yesterday and I I said to them
6110s	it's like I'll make sure you prepare for
6111s	Conquest bands and the first response to
6114s	my message was what's a conquest band so
6117s	certainly something that not all these
6118s	teams are going to be prepared for
6120s	certainly something that most of the
6121s	teams have shown they can probably
6123s	handle we see a lot of depth from these
6125s	teams in com so I'm excited to see how
6128s	they get on but we have one more match
6130s	at the minute so let's take a look at
6131s	the bands between percussive Pizza Time
6133s	diplomacy and Laser Hawks because of
6136s	Peace of time the plumsy Banning out
6137s	Loki slept near so that uh that Rush
6140s	comp that we've just spoke about uh
6141s	looking like it's been neutral pretty
6143s	heavily here we might see some
6144s	Nighthawks perhaps but with the Loki
6146s	removed unlikely laser Hawks Banning
6149s	Vindicator and the shack so that is a I
6152s	can't boost in percussive piece of time
6153s	bring a whole bunch with those Giga
6155s	plated Le shacks and done really well
6157s	with them dismantling uh the ancient
6160s	aileron and almost taking themselves
6162s	straight through to Alliance tournament
6163s	18 against hidden Leaf uh yesterday
6167s	jintan uh what do you think we're going
6169s	to see here from Picasso Pizza time
6171s	without the shack band though
6174s	I'm not sure we've seen quite a few
6176s	comps from uh Picasso Pizza time over
6179s	the course of this tournament so it's
6180s	not like they're quite as locked in as
6182s	some other teams uh they're very very
6185s	able to bring say the three Battleship
6187s	control comp that they've won a lot of
6189s	matches with which will be valve
6191s	indicator and TFI core not utilizing the
6194s	shack
6195s	and they've also shown a mimitar rush
6197s	although with the bands that they've
6199s	dropped I I don't imagine that we're
6201s	going to see that and then there's also
6203s	I don't think we'll see anything new
6205s	though both of these teams are not
6206s	fighting for uh for their tournament
6208s	life here they're just fighting for
6210s	seeding and uh you're gonna need to be
6212s	able to beat Odin's call if you want to
6214s	advance anyway so I think we'll just see
6216s	a nice gentle match of both teams
6218s	bringing something that they've brought
6220s	before and seeing who's better at
6222s	executing it
6223s	well I see the counter has just started
6225s	so let's head over to the arena right
6227s	now our team because of Pizza Time
6228s	diplomacy and Laser hops if your casters
6230s	the battle of the Blackboard Pirates go
6236s	hello everybody Welcome to the arena as
6238s	these guys are saying Picasso beats done
6240s	diplomacy laser Hawks neither of these
6242s	teams can get eliminated they are
6243s	fighting for seeding to determine which
6244s	of them will go against Odin's call uh
6247s	the losers all the way up against Odin's
6248s	call the winner will be going against
6249s	kitchen sinkhole in the semi-finals
6250s	after a short break after this match but
6251s	now we are going to get this underway
6253s	and Laser Hawks have brought looks to be
6255s	like a rapid light focused kite comp
6256s	here with a bunch of services authorous
6258s	across rapid Heavies on the bar guest
6261s	yep and it looks like because if he's
6263s	the same diplomacy is bringing their
6264s	standard triple armor Battleship sort of
6266s	pseudo control setup with their balgor
6268s	and lots of damage already going out on
6270s	this football uh laser Hawks is going to
6272s	be able to completely destroy that
6273s	bottom end very quickly tons of rep
6275s	drones already out on Progressive Pizza
6276s	Time diplomacy though so uh we'll see if
6278s	they're able to catch this fipple in
6279s	time they do not that is very very
6281s	unfortunate here uh hopefully they can
6284s	kind of get themselves together for the
6285s	next 30 seconds or so we're left you
6287s	have the Sipple or the service Rapid
6289s	heavy Clips as the heck 8 starts getting
6292s	shot
6293s	yeah the lower end is going to be at
6294s	extreme danger here and it's going to
6296s	come I think down to how quickly um
6298s	these Battleship Pilots can assign rep
6300s	bolts they've got these two deacons but
6301s	obviously The Limited range and they
6302s	need to push in so their comp's going to
6303s	get spread out a little bit here and one
6306s	of the things that good teams have very
6307s	practiced at is assigning rep Bots and
6309s	knowing where they need to be at a
6310s	certain moment and bad teams perhaps
6312s	less so and these these three
6313s	battleships obviously each have a heavy
6315s	complement of repots but this hecatee
6316s	isn't holding either the deacons are
6318s	sort of staying mostly this one Deacon
6320s	staying with the bowel gone and the
6321s	Tempest Fleet trying to push in so
6322s	there's only one of them left to you
6324s	know cycle reps on this hecatee with any
6325s	sort of meaningful effect and he's just
6327s	on the edge of structure here he is
6329s	probably going to go down from a couple
6330s	more volleys and I'm not sure if uh um
6332s	Peter managed to really catch anything
6333s	yet they're still sort of trying to burn
6335s	in but the the shield kite team is
6336s	keeping them at Bay for the time being
6339s	yeah actually it does look like the
6341s	heckaji is catching which is pretty good
6344s	uh for them so I'm guessing that the
6346s	serbs and the Vargas have clip at this
6349s	point uh this the thing that I'm really
6351s	watching here is this valgorn of Chad
6352s	flame he is ramming in uh the balgorn
6355s	webs are gonna be the thing that can
6356s	catch something here laser Hawks has to
6358s	stay away from it if even one ship gets
6360s	caught this changes so fast we do see a
6362s	Wubble coming out on the heretic I think
6363s	it might have been a little bit too
6364s	early uh that heretic looks like it's
6367s	just charging in right now trying to get
6368s	wubbles off popping them a little bit
6370s	early again they really need to like
6372s	just chill out for like three seconds
6373s	here because that heretic is probably
6375s	going to get completely deleted here
6376s	since it's out of reperative everything
6378s	tons of represents flying to the heretic
6379s	but it does go down in time that being
6381s	said the wubbles it did slow their ships
6382s	down significantly these Battleground is
6384s	catching up and the saber Fleet is also
6386s	kind of ramming in
6388s	yeah the wubbles you need to be careful
6389s	when you're using them of course because
6390s	there's no way to get out of your own
6392s	wobble range
6393s	um so you're just going to slow yourself
6394s	down and of course that then means that
6396s	the serbs the authors look at you and
6398s	say hey that guy's going pretty slowly
6399s	we can absolutely melt him and they do
6401s	just that and the stab a fleet now of
6402s	Couric it does look at the time being
6404s	that pizza are just sort of getting
6405s	kited around here and I really question
6407s	on a sort of my micro comp scale here
6410s	the choice to bring a pawn to fix rather
6412s	than a Magus because this comp that
6414s	they've brought is so so pivotal they
6416s	can get webs from this bowel gone here
6418s	to get Target access for the get a Navy
6419s	The Tempest Fleet and perhaps if they
6422s	had bonus Skirmish links from a Magus
6424s	instead of a pontifex that extra couple
6426s	of kilometers range might just let that
6428s	balgorn heat his webs and just maybe web
6430s	something down and start catching things
6431s	because at the moment it looks like it's
6432s	fairly comfortable sailing for laser
6434s	Hawks here they're just sort of kiting
6435s	around they've settled into a rhythm
6438s	here they're taking out this low end
6439s	they know from the previous couple of
6442s	minutes of this match that the bowel
6443s	gone The Tempest Fleet aren't able to
6445s	get in range they they haven't got much
6446s	left in their Arsenal here and obviously
6448s	the more tackle dies the harder it gets
6451s	for them
6453s	yeah and honestly it you know you hate
6455s	hate to see it but I'm not really seeing
6456s	particularly great uh piloting from
6458s	especially this balgor now it does look
6460s	like the Tempest Fleet issue or the
6461s	Armageddon Navy issue of All Ships of
6463s	canned is actually doing a very good job
6465s	at cutting off but it really feels like
6467s	this algorithm is basically right
6468s	clicked approached and has its mwd on is
6470s	trying to catch off like you need to
6472s	actually cut them off you can't just
6474s	approach like that's pretty uh pretty
6476s	basic stuff here um army navy issue is a
6479s	very weird Choice by the way we were
6481s	kind of looking at like why did they
6482s	bring this as opposed to just bringing
6483s	another Fleet Tempest uh we've only been
6485s	one point different but the Armageddon
6487s	Navy issue actually does almost get
6489s	close enough to grab something before it
6490s	gets webbed off by that hyena so uh heck
6493s	it does drop here
6495s	um I am wondering if laser Hawks is
6496s	going to actually be able to take out
6498s	the deacons the pawn effects or the
6500s	other ships once these last couple light
6502s	ships go down because they do seem to be
6504s	having a little bit of trouble like
6506s	obviously they're breaking through reps
6507s	but they don't seem to be doing it as
6509s	well as I feel like they should
6512s	yeah and it might end up being a little
6514s	bit sort of a traditional here for laser
6515s	Hawks they can just win on points it
6516s	won't be the most exciting the most
6519s	um glamorous ending of The Tempest Fleet
6521s	of elacon does actually initiate an mjd
6523s	and try to get on top of something but
6525s	it's it's just you know it's it's not
6527s	quite responsive enough he ends up you
6528s	know 50 kilometers maybe behind the
6530s	enemy Fleet here
6531s	um and obviously you know he's not in
6532s	that much of a better position than
6533s	where he started
6535s	um so yeah laser Hawks here as they take
6536s	down that that first Deacon sorry
6540s	um you know it's just getting more and
6542s	more dire here for pizza the more ships
6543s	die the less chance they have of
6544s	catching anything and Laser Hawks are
6546s	just going to be able to sort of Stay
6547s	Stay bundled up stay close together and
6549s	just slowly circle around the arena and
6551s	just sort of initiate a Tom and
6553s	jerry-like Chase
6555s	um even if in this case the Chaser is
6558s	severely sort of overweight
6561s	yeah yeah
6563s	that's that is a that is
6566s	on the pizza side let's put it that way
6569s	definitely not uh the only one that's
6571s	even going remotely fast is that uh to
6573s	the speed issue
6575s	um I do think that that mjd that is like
6577s	the plan here
6578s	um unfortunately it's probably gotten a
6580s	little bit too late here uh that looks
6581s	they are trying to take down this other
6583s	Fleet issue I think they're just using
6585s	up the clip while they're ready to hit
6586s	the next Deacon but like why isn't the
6588s	balgorn mjd that's what I'm sitting here
6590s	it's it's actually just flying around
6592s	doing effectively nothing like the
6595s	Tempest Fleet had a great idea uh they
6597s	need to like take that idea and apply it
6599s	to all their battleships like just get
6600s	all your battleships together on top of
6602s	the mjd and just start eating yourself
6603s	at them maybe you'll eventually catch
6605s	them I don't know I completely agree I
6606s	mean the Tempest fleet's your Mainline
6608s	DPS ship here right like you want it to
6609s	get into position but it's not the thing
6611s	that's going to facilitate the rest of
6612s	your comp whereas the Battlegrounds a
6613s	lot more forgiving for getting on top of
6614s	things you know with what like 40
6616s	kilometer webs if you mjd something you
6618s	don't have to be particularly precise if
6619s	you just get in sort of the vague range
6621s	change of where they are you can
6622s	probably web something down maybe web on
6624s	that bar I guess get your battleships on
6625s	top of them and start pumping him and
6627s	then maybe that then would put the onus
6629s	on laser Hawks to sort of play more
6630s	aggressively and then you know they
6631s	might be behind on points when the tick
6633s	timer ticks down but as it is the Pizza
6635s	Time team are just sort of slowly
6637s	hemorrhaging ships and now they're just
6638s	down to four these three battleships in
6639s	the stabber Fleet and it is going to be
6642s	um Pizza Time going up against I believe
6645s	Odin's in the next round which will be
6646s	very very difficult for them
6648s	um and Laser Hawks are going to face off
6650s	against kitchen sinkhole as well after
6652s	the break
6654s	yeah it's uh this is gonna be a really
6656s	really painful slow
6659s	uh awful thing to watch but I mean not
6661s	as control
6662s	and piloting right here because I can
6665s	tell it does appear that he has put the
6668s	Osprey Navy issue on follow uh on
6671s	approach on whatever term you want to do
6673s	because every time that Oscar Navy she
6674s	starts moving he starts turning and
6676s	finally I'm seeing him actually manually
6679s	pilot a little bit here uh looks like
6681s	the valgorn is heading potentially over
6683s	to the mjd beacon so you know with two
6686s	minutes left they have had this flash of
6687s	inspiration of weight we could use the
6689s	thing that teleports us 100 kilometers
6691s	to maybe tackle something uh maybe a
6694s	little bit late on that I do it does
6695s	look like most of the Pizza Time
6697s	diplomacy ships uh are actually heading
6699s	towards that Center mjpd Beacon right
6701s	now uh maybe it's just the balgorn but
6703s	I mean it's
6705s	it might actually not be too little too
6707s	late
6708s	it's a little bit of a sort of
6710s	disappointing lack of inspiration from
6711s	pizza because they performed so well
6713s	yesterday in that absolutely nail-biting
6715s	match against us and of course winning
6716s	their earlier match today
6718s	um so Chad flame maybe perhaps a little
6720s	bit sort of hard of learning in this
6721s	match spending seven minutes eight
6723s	minutes now chasing around in this
6724s	belgawn you know it's not getting any
6726s	better buddy you need to change
6726s	something up before the whole of your
6728s	comp dies so you know maybe if a
6730s	customer diplomacy had sort of abandoned
6732s	this Chase strategy and sort of tried to
6734s	initiate this micro jump spear fishing
6736s	as it were
6737s	um with the bowel gone maybe a little
6738s	bit earlier into match before they
6739s	hemorrhaged all their lower end it might
6741s	have turned out a little bit differently
6742s	but I feel like they were just maybe
6743s	just a little bit slow of coming up with
6745s	that sort of idea of how to turn this
6747s	around rather than trying the same thing
6750s	yeah I uh it definitely correct uh looks
6753s	like he he's actually a really good spot
6755s	to mjd oh he does it a little bit
6758s	um now he's he's gonna catch something
6760s	I'll just look at it no uh absolutely
6762s	not I don't know he might be kind of
6764s	close to that Cerberus of Carl by all
6765s	burning upwards ah dude I'm I'm zoomed
6768s	in on this he's way off
6771s	I think they might be in web range I
6773s	think something might be in web range
6776s	but I mean obviously it's not going to
6777s	be enough but if they're just instituted
6778s	this strategy maybe a couple minutes
6780s	earlier they might have been able to get
6781s	something done here but no it's gonna it
6784s	does look like in fact no he's not gonna
6785s	catch anything not quite but it was a
6787s	valiant effort at the end here from Chad
6788s	Flame you got the right idea you got the
6790s	right you know just a little bit more
6791s	practice you know the thing about it too
6792s	because I don't think I don't think
6795s	laser Hawks actually reacted to the mjd
6797s	because what they did is they were
6798s	flying to that micro jump Beacon and
6800s	then as they hit it they all flew back
6801s	to the next top one I think they just
6803s	were like okay we're gonna go to this
6805s	Beacon and then we're gonna go to this
6806s	Beacon and then we're gonna go to this
6807s	Beacon and he happened to uh
6810s	mjd kind of it was it was okay I don't
6813s	know it's it's rough again this needed
6815s	to happen like nine minutes ago not with
6818s	40 seconds left on the match
6821s	yep but of course as we've said this
6823s	isn't an elimination match there's
6824s	learnings to be had
6825s	um you know both compositionally and and
6827s	play style so while this is going to be
6828s	laser Hawks winning
6830s	um we are going to see both of these
6831s	teams again later on and they're going
6832s	to battle out for this one final spot
6834s	that remains
6837s	yeah and uh just just to uh popping over
6839s	and looking at twitch chat real quick uh
6841s	somebody says somebody said Chad burnt
6844s	out that is not true uh a balgorn will
6847s	never ever go at 900 Ms ever with a
6850s	burnt out prop mod for anyone so Chad
6853s	has had the mwd on the entire time just
6855s	was not effective and unfortunately
6857s	because if it's time diplomacy gets zero
6860s	points killing nothing laser Hawks
6862s	taking out most of the low end getting
6863s	56 and we will be moving to Ithaca Hawk
6869s	now for the triglovian weather report
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6922s	thank you
6931s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy uh
6934s	popped out pizza in the oven set it to
6936s	high and then completely forgot about it
6939s	and then remembered uh 10 minutes too
6941s	late and at that point it was burnt to a
6943s	crisp as laser Hawks executed that
6946s	kiting comp absolutely basically
6949s	perfectly in this instance a couple of
6951s	mistakes but uh Picasso Pizza problems
6953s	they were not able to capitalize on it
6955s	and just got catered slowly to death
6958s	over the course of that match with that
6961s	uh laserhawks wins the nether Group B
6963s	and they will go forward to face kitchen
6965s	sinkhole in the semi-final meanwhile
6967s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy has to
6970s	get through Odin's call to make it into
6972s	uh the the final at their end the the
6974s	first match Odin's called versus Picasso
6977s	Pizza Time diplomacy will be in about 20
6979s	minutes so pressure's on now for a
6982s	percussive piece of time
6983s	um and until then we're going to take a
6985s	short break here and we'll be back in
6987s	about 15 minutes
6994s	welcome back ladies and gentlemen to uh
6997s	the final day of Alliance tournament
6999s	18-minute trials I am joined on the desk
7001s	once again by Blackboard pirate and
7004s	mystical might uh Blackberry pirate how
7006s	are you today
7008s	I'm I'm doing great uh I've got my nice
7010s	little vocal warm up gotta watch a bunch
7012s	of like really
7014s	interesting piloting choices in the
7017s	morning so yeah I'm here let's do it
7020s	yeah we've got a match coming up and
7023s	then there'll be a longer break between
7025s	that and the next match uh just just the
7027s	way the schedule works out so perhaps
7029s	during that break we can uh we can do a
7031s	little uh learning how to Pilot
7032s	battleships with Blackboard part uh but
7034s	before that we have got a exciting match
7037s	coming up so now we're into elimination
7039s	matches again so we we said goodbye to
7042s	uh the entrance we said goodbye to we
7044s	form blob six became four and in the
7047s	next two matches four will become two
7049s	Odin's called percussive piece of time
7051s	diplomacy kitchen sinkhole and Laser
7053s	Hawks which of those are going to make
7054s	it through to the finals well we're
7056s	going to find out who will win between
7058s	Odin's call and percussive Pizza Time
7060s	diplomacy as they will be up next but
7062s	first let's take a look at the bands
7063s	with these two teams so percussive piece
7066s	of time Banning the curse and the
7067s	pilgrim what it's called Banning Loki
7069s	near classic bands from Odin's at
7071s	this point because of Pizza Time really
7074s	not a fan of anything with the the the
7076s	arbitrator Hull here just banning all
7078s	forms of uh of honest e-board on that
7080s	planet platform do you think mystical
7083s	mate that uh with the shack unbanned
7085s	we're going to see it here
7087s	I mean it's entirely possible that we'll
7089s	see it uh it once again from the
7091s	audience team um Odin has been pretty
7094s	comfortable running that the shack
7095s	control comp the curse however is a
7098s	central part I think of any other Shack
7100s	comp that they would be running it seems
7103s	like they are going all in on the
7105s	ability to tracking and guidance disrupt
7107s	the enemy team as well as project some
7109s	of those newts out so with the pilgrim
7111s	and the curse both band you know maybe
7113s	we'll see them bring an arbitrator and
7115s	point more towards Sentinels as well to
7118s	put on some more new pressure and also
7120s	bring some more guns disruptors and
7121s	tracking disruptors but you know you
7123s	can't say for sure
7125s	I'm certainly interested to find that by
7127s	leaving that the shack unbanned uh do
7130s	Owen's call think they have a comp they
7132s	can beat Pizza times
7134s	um The Shack comp that they fielded very
7136s	successfully thus far they only dropped
7137s	that match against laser Hawks because
7139s	they were forced to uh try and catch a
7141s	kite into a kiting team in the brawling
7143s	comp and utterly and completely failed
7146s	to do so uh so perhaps they'll be more
7148s	comfortable again with a brawling the
7150s	shot comp we have just another minute
7152s	before that match starts so let us head
7154s	over to the arena and find out uh who
7157s	will win between Odin's call and Picasso
7159s	Pizza Time diplomacy with your casters
7161s	Alec and Jin tan
7169s	hello everyone and welcome back to the
7171s	arena here it looks like we have a
7173s	little bit of a mirror with both teams
7175s	having brought an armor control setup to
7177s	the grid here
7179s	um the question really is going to be
7181s	how those Le Shacks match up against
7183s	that balgorn Alec how do you think this
7185s	is going to play out as both teams start
7187s	to engage as the countdown winds up
7195s	okay it looks like Alec is having a few
7197s	technical difficulties so this is going
7198s	to be a solo cast for a couple of
7200s	moments
7202s	foreign
7204s	so the match has begun and it looks like
7206s	all of the support there from the pizza
7208s	team is running in to try and screen and
7211s	oh no they're going to try and put
7213s	pressure they're going to try and run in
7214s	and grab some things here so that these
7216s	the Shacks can start getting spooled up
7218s	on uh the uh Odin's cool side they've
7223s	got a lot of potentially really powerful
7225s	tools to deal with those deacons here
7228s	with that Muller and the vexer those are
7229s	going to have a lot of heavy uh sorry a
7231s	lot of medium nukes if they can get them
7233s	into position looks like the yeah it
7236s	just looks like they're going in here
7237s	damn's getting spread across their team
7239s	from the Odin's cool side though but I
7241s	don't think those are going to be
7242s	particularly effective in this kind of
7243s	matchup
7245s	hi Jen uh can you hear me I'm going to
7247s	jump in here I think we've been attacked
7248s	by a meter rater once again uh but I've
7251s	broken free from his clutches and I'm
7253s	here to join you in the arena so I'm
7254s	seeing right now this uh this Omen
7256s	taking some damage but he is looking
7257s	pretty comfortable but that thorax there
7259s	Edward uh getting getting chunked on
7261s	there for a custom piece of time they
7263s	are doing work to that Fleet Tempest
7265s	though if they can break this Fleet
7266s	Tempest uh while keeping these uh this
7268s	small tackle ships alive as long as
7270s	possible then they're going to be in a
7271s	decent position but the the newts from
7273s	this Battleground are going to be more
7274s	impressive the longer this match was on
7276s	yeah and it looks like um uh Odin's
7280s	cooler going for a completely different
7281s	strategy they're trying to leverage the
7282s	webs and the high application of those
7284s	Tempest Fleet issues onto these much
7286s	more squishy T1 cruises that pizza party
7289s	have brought and look at that vexer he's
7290s	going really really low here if he can't
7292s	pull out of this position he's going to
7294s	drop and there he goes so that's one of
7296s	the few tackle ships that pizza have to
7298s	kind of dictate range as this match
7299s	continues Off the Grid already
7302s	um they're gonna need to make progress
7303s	on this Tempest Fleet issue soon and I
7305s	it doesn't even look like he's tackled
7307s	right now he's just actually no he's got
7308s	a scram on him but he's not webbed down
7310s	and there's every chance that he will be
7312s	able to clear his own tackle off with
7314s	some news
7315s	yeah the uh the shack that was sitting
7317s	right on top of them are now starting to
7319s	spill uh so he will be hopefully having
7321s	some heavy units to to slap around the
7324s	place as well uh but he's taken a lot of
7326s	damage he is counter-tackled he is
7328s	counter-neuted uh he is receiving reps
7330s	from the two deacons here uh but he is
7334s	struggling to keep alive meanwhile not
7335s	much damage seems to be applying to the
7336s	fleet Tempest from The Shack here is it
7339s	possible he's been new to doubt
7340s	completely
7341s	I I'm not entirely sure I don't know
7344s	maybe that maybe this is a bit of a bait
7345s	we've been talking all evening about the
7348s	three platelet Shack fit that pizzas
7350s	have been doing maybe they skimped a
7351s	little bit on the tank here just hoping
7353s	that they'd get away with it but that
7355s	said they are putting some DPS down on
7357s	the Mellow they're trying to free Chad
7358s	flame that's what's got him tackled here
7360s	if they can kill um Ethel and Kura in
7362s	the Muller and get him free that's going
7364s	to potentially let him survive although
7366s	with how low he's going I don't think
7367s	this is this is a win con here for
7369s	Odin's if they can take out this The
7370s	Shack that's pretty much game from an
7372s	early position
7374s	yeah I'm looking at the shack here is
7376s	not firing or whatsoever so he is
7378s	definitely capped out by the fleet
7379s	Tempest with their utility newts um and
7381s	there you go he is down so not a good
7383s	position for Picasso Pizza Time
7385s	diplomacy this might have been a giga
7387s	brain move by Odin's call expecting this
7390s	Shack to come and bringing a counter to
7391s	that which as it happens just seems to
7393s	be as many newts as you possibly can
7395s	they might still break the smaller
7397s	um uh from under the Talia Deacon reps
7399s	but it's going to be too little too late
7402s	I think as that second The Shack is now
7404s	uh being muted as well so he's going to
7406s	be shut down very very quickly
7408s	yeah something to note though is that
7409s	this is taking place right on the very
7411s	edge of the Arena the match is not not
7413s	over yet there is a huge risk of a team
7416s	potentially boundaring here if they
7418s	start getting pushed in One Direction
7421s	um
7421s	that said the Absolution here of cayenne
7424s	uh is dropping really really quickly oh
7426s	this is this is a terrible position now
7428s	for pizzas
7429s	um they're still still trying to break
7431s	the Paradigm of the Tempest Fleet issue
7433s	but it isn't working they need to figure
7436s	out some way of turning this around some
7438s	way of leveraging that high application
7440s	onto something else maybe newting down
7442s	the thoroughly as neuting down the
7443s	deacons getting these reps off the field
7445s	and moving on from there
7447s	do you can you see anybody back into
7448s	this match
7450s	honestly at this point no I think
7452s	they've just been out executed
7454s	um by by Oden's core not just in the the
7457s	piloting but in what they've brought so
7459s	Pizza have clearly favored this comp uh
7462s	Odin's clearly left it wide open for
7464s	them saying hey we see you bringing this
7466s	uh this double the shack comp you know
7468s	feel free to bring it and we'll bring
7470s	something which we can beat it with and
7472s	they have done so the the newt's coming
7474s	from the balgar and the two Fleet
7476s	tempests were able to shut down Chad
7478s	flame first and then once that uh the
7481s	shack gun was no longer spilling they
7483s	were able to tank the the mall got a
7485s	little bit lower the Confessor is
7486s	getting a little bit low narrow but
7487s	that's not going to make much difference
7488s	with the Absolution gone uh this is just
7490s	mop-up time for Odin's call uh fantastic
7494s	3D crafting from them fantastic piloting
7496s	splitting those two of the shacks and
7497s	bringing something uh you know in and
7500s	that pick band phase they can just
7502s	absolutely win here
7504s	what do you think about the choice from
7506s	pizzas to go really aggressive at the
7508s	opening couple of minute seconds of this
7509s	match burning everything in both their
7511s	little shacks and all of their tackle
7512s	right into the Newton web range of these
7515s	uh of that heavy Battleship core from
7518s	Odin's you know we've seen them be
7520s	really patient in previous matches and
7521s	here it looked it you know it feels like
7523s	the pressure sort of got to them
7526s	yeah I think the audience team just has
7528s	a bit too much screening ability here
7530s	the flute templates themselves are fast
7532s	they're able to uh to screen pretty well
7534s	for small ships with those heavy
7536s	neutralizers so that the visual Fleet
7538s	issued effects are would have struggle
7539s	to get on top of them I think the best
7541s	thing for them was potentially just to
7543s	try and roll in and then chunk something
7545s	down as fast as possible before those
7548s	newts did the job as new the longer a
7550s	match goes on become more and more
7552s	powerful because once you hit cap dry if
7554s	you don't have an injector I mean you're
7556s	done like you cannot regenerate that
7558s	with a with a background sitting on top
7560s	of you just with one Newt style running
7562s	yeah and there we go another Roman
7564s	falling uh probably an omen of pizzas
7567s	demise here in this match
7569s	um I I feel like there was there's a lot
7572s	they could have done though with these
7573s	the Shacks they actually have a
7574s	surprising amount of range
7576s	um when you load them with I can't
7578s	remember what the long range ammo is on
7580s	the shack from the top of my head but it
7581s	has around 60 kilometers 70 kilometers
7583s	of range you could have sprawled up on
7585s	one of these Cruisers
7587s	um without those tracking disruptors
7589s	from the curse and the pilgrim that they
7590s	banned and you know just slowly apply it
7593s	down but maybe these damps had more of
7595s	an impact than we thought uh stopping
7597s	pizza from executing any sort of kite
7599s	away and jockeying the position in in
7602s	that respect and then being forced to
7604s	run in aggressively
7606s	yeah this is the second time we've seen
7608s	Odin's call bring a heavy control comp
7612s	and just executes it really well and
7615s	slowly dismantle their their opponents
7618s	and this is a bit of a change from some
7620s	of the fast-paced rush comps where the
7621s	matches can be over in just a couple of
7623s	minutes here we're seeing uh patience
7626s	strategy uh piloting decisions and just
7629s	all around good execution from Odin's
7631s	call uh showing why they were predicted
7633s	as one of the uh the top teams in the
7636s	the trials overall and you know if they
7639s	keep this kind of uh this level up then
7641s	I think they'll do quite well in the
7643s	finals and they will definitely be the
7644s	team to beat
7646s	yeah we finally see a little bit of a
7648s	desperation play as pizzas go on the
7650s	Thalia I've got to say that
7653s	um Deuter daughter and uh toast bro
7656s	played really well in those uh Logistics
7658s	frigates managing to slip by all of the
7661s	tackle of pizzas as they did do that
7663s	engage
7664s	um although you've got to give credit to
7666s	the screening from Odin's side but
7669s	preventing the tackle from getting on
7670s	top of them all it would have taken
7672s	maybe is one of those thaliers or
7673s	deacons to get caught and a couple of
7675s	you know lucky wrecking shots from the
7677s	Le Shacks for those things to pop and
7679s	from there you know Odin's wouldn't have
7681s	had the sustain to deal with the ramping
7682s	DPS of this really powerful Pizza core
7686s	but it wasn't to be and we're just gonna
7688s	watch here as the last few ships from
7691s	Pizza get dismantled
7695s	yeah it just makes you think what could
7697s	have been if Pizza had been able to just
7700s	eke out that win over a hidden Leaf
7703s	yesterday they came so achingly close to
7706s	doing it as well it was just a few a few
7708s	rounds here there and they would have
7710s	been in Alliance term 18 right now
7712s	instead uh we see them right uh just
7714s	being dismantled by Odin's call and they
7716s	will exit from this there's no coming
7718s	back from this this is the last we will
7719s	see of Picasso Pizza Time diplomacy in
7722s	Alliance tournament 18 and this could
7725s	have been this could have been
7727s	um hidden Leaf Village Ninja Assassin
7729s	Eastward Squad right now uh but it
7731s	wasn't and because of pizza time they
7733s	got close they tasted Alliance room in
7736s	18 but then uh yeah just put out right
7739s	now by Odin's call so with that let's go
7742s	back to the desk
7743s	bro remember me
7749s	[Music]
7755s	[Music]
7770s	thank you
7773s	oh
7775s	yeah
7776s	[Music]
7779s	[Applause]
7789s	[Music]
7804s	[Music]
7810s	thank you
7814s	foreign
7816s	[Music]
7826s	diplomacy all seven but they are out of
7829s	Alliance tournament 18 uh they couldn't
7831s	pull it off they got
7833s	well I mean not really much way to say
7835s	other than schooled about ordinance call
7837s	there in that comp uh not only with
7839s	execution but of course the the Drafting
7841s	and the picking as well Blackboard
7843s	Pirates
7845s	um look like orders have kind of
7847s	mastered this three Battleship core
7849s	what's your thoughts there
7852s	yeah they haven't uh they're just
7854s	playing it so well like they understand
7856s	everything that they're going up against
7858s	when they bring it
7860s	um they haven't really lost any games
7861s	using it from what like they've they've
7864s	had a little bit of trouble every once
7865s	in a while but uh they just like they're
7868s	so good at recognizing the weaknesses of
7871s	it which is that you're kind of you're
7872s	based around three battleships right
7874s	like you can't go too far away from them
7876s	or you just get picked off and we've
7878s	seen that a few times over the uh over
7880s	the weekend where people bring what is
7883s	pretty much the same thing like two tfis
7885s	and then X and all the battleships push
7889s	through leave all of their support
7891s	behind their support gets picked off and
7892s	the battleships are sitting there like
7893s	oh
7894s	huh
7896s	why'd you guys feed and it's like well
7898s	because you weren't there to protect
7899s	them so
7900s	um I guess a good good example is the
7901s	pizza match of the last one right like
7904s	not exactly what happened but you know
7906s	the low end gets picked off from the
7908s	back when the battleships that they're
7909s	not able to do anything uh so Odin's
7911s	doing very very good
7913s	um they brought either two or three
7914s	battleships every single match they seem
7917s	to have actually practiced it a bunch
7918s	they understand
7920s	how to like work around the bands and I
7924s	mean they've just been playing very very
7925s	well
7928s	Misty do you think that uh the pizza
7930s	team would have been able to do anything
7931s	different there should they have zigged
7934s	when they zagged or was it kind of set
7937s	up to fail against that particular
7938s	Odin's comp from the start
7941s	when we were looking through the Odin's
7943s	team comp uh so when we were looking at
7945s	the grid when both teams joined battle
7947s	and were fighting against each other
7950s	um we pointed out that most of the Odin
7952s	ships had newt's fit in some form or
7955s	other
7956s	um with the cap dependency of the
7958s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy team
7963s	um I think they were just really set up
7964s	to fail the removal of the cursing the
7967s	pilgrim during the pan phase perhaps
7969s	ignored the fact that they didn't want
7971s	to necessarily go up against a team that
7973s	was going to put pressure or
7975s	um you know
7977s	have the ability to break the spools of
7980s	their Le shacks and Odin's countered
7982s	that by just bringing such high new
7984s	pressure that the logistics frigates
7986s	weren't really able to perform as you
7988s	would expect them to as the vexer and
7990s	the more are sat on top of them and the
7992s	battleships weren't able to actually
7993s	spawn their guns at all so we saw damage
7995s	fall off of The Tempest Fleet issue
7997s	fairly early in that match and then it
7999s	never really bounced back
8001s	um so yeah I think there's not really
8002s	too much that they could have done I
8004s	know jintan mentioned that they perhaps
8005s	should have stayed further back and
8007s	projected some damage in with those Le
8009s	Shacks as they can shoot a fair distance
8011s	but the celesters I think also prevents
8014s	them from doing that by simply damping
8015s	out at least one of the Shacks allowing
8018s	the battleships to just put their newts
8020s	although outside of optimal which will
8023s	still pressure the the singular shot
8024s	that can still fire
8026s	um at Target so yeah I think they were
8028s	just kind of set up to fail in that one
8031s	now of course that um celestes as well
8033s	if he's damping out one of those the
8035s	Shacks uh if he wants to cause all he
8038s	has to do is swap his dance back and
8039s	forth between the Tula Shacks sure one
8041s	of them will be frank at any one time
8042s	but if you swap back and forward you're
8044s	going to keep breaking that spool uh and
8046s	as a shack pilot losing your spill
8049s	um repeatedly will just be incredibly
8051s	frustrating because the the damage will
8052s	be anemic by comparison you're already
8054s	sitting at long range you're not doing
8056s	optimal uh optimal DPS compared to what
8059s	you know the potential is with these
8060s	little Shacks sitting right on top of
8062s	someone in maximum spool and with that
8065s	you could essentially take the two DPS
8067s	uh amount from the Shacks down to maybe
8070s	one third of one in the shack if you're
8073s	if you're clever just with uh a single
8075s	six point uh celestis and some good
8078s	piloting play speaking of piloting play
8081s	Blackboard pirate
8083s	um you've had some strong opinions on
8084s	Battleship piloting uh in some of the
8087s	matches that we've been seeing not just
8089s	today but in in the rest of the uh the
8093s	trials this is uh in fact that was match
8095s	61. uh we've had 61 matches uh many
8098s	featuring battleships
8100s	um Talk us through Battleship piloting
8103s	in tournament formats and the pitfalls
8107s	yeah well I I mean I've had I think it's
8111s	almost kind of become a meme at some
8113s	point that I've had strong opinions on
8115s	Battleship piloting for years now uh
8118s	people people have said like oh he's
8120s	he's on Battleship Pilots again
8122s	it's like well yeah I mean
8124s	we've we've seen it happen time and time
8126s	again where people forget that big
8129s	Battleship guns don't shoot small ships
8132s	very well
8133s	um there's a reason why you know to just
8135s	for the people that like all do all this
8137s	TQ stuff there's a reason why ships like
8139s	munins and Eagles and demos's and these
8142s	hacks are like the premiere big Fleet
8144s	ship nowadays as opposed to uh
8146s	battleships and when you have
8148s	battleships they're not fitting guns on
8149s	them you know you're getting like
8151s	typhoon Fleet issues that are typhoons
8152s	that are fitting like cruise missiles
8154s	and stuff uh because at the end of the
8156s	day
8156s	the way that this game is set up is that
8159s	guns are they have a tracking mechanic
8162s	which is based off the ship size the
8164s	ship speed and then your ship speed so
8167s	in the at what we see a lot of times and
8169s	we've seen it repeatedly uh today
8171s	is people will be like mwd in their
8174s	Battleship around and they're actually
8176s	out tracking themselves and the problem
8177s	is is that so many of these matches are
8180s	decided
8182s	um based on like like the thinnest
8184s	little margins
8186s	of DPS and even missing like two or
8189s	three volleys in your ship can be the
8191s	difference between you break that ship
8193s	in time to maybe get your ship free get
8195s	your Logistics free uh prevent yourself
8197s	from losing and not so
8200s	the reality of it is all you actually
8202s	have to do
8203s	is control space or ship and put
8206s	yourself at optimal range and it sounds
8208s	really simple and easy and like well
8210s	that's not how it works it it is it's
8213s	actually crazy like you can go onto Eve
8215s	uni and there will be like guides that
8216s	say
8217s	optimal range is the optimal range for
8219s	your ship to be shooting
8221s	and tracking is based off of your ship's
8223s	movement and their ship movement so once
8226s	the ship's tackle the control space
8227s	keep it range at your optimal range and
8229s	you press F1
8230s	that's all you got to do
8233s	yeah that's all you got to do uh
8235s	mystical might luckily in Eve online if
8237s	you're flying a battleship and you want
8239s	to get into brawling range with someone
8240s	there's a great button labeled approach
8243s	and this is truly the best way to get
8245s	into that range and then you can hit
8247s	that control space stop that ship and
8250s	follow black Pirates advice there is
8253s	that right just we approach and we wait
8255s	to win
8256s	yeah that's correct I think it was two
8259s	matches ago now we saw one of the teams
8261s	employ this approach where they hit
8263s	approach with their their balcon Navy
8266s	gedden
8267s	um and they ended up trailing the
8269s	Hostile team around the arena for about
8270s	10 minutes
8272s	um approaching is great in some
8275s	situations like Rush perhaps where you
8278s	just want to approach a single Target
8279s	get on top of them and do as much damage
8281s	as possible when you are the slower of
8283s	the two ships approach isn't always
8285s	necessarily the best approach to take
8288s	cutting the enemy team off by double
8291s	clicking in space ahead of where they're
8293s	going can actually shorten the distance
8295s	more than approaching the enemy ship
8298s	because you end up and use the approach
8300s	command
8301s	kind of curving behind wherever they're
8304s	going to try and catch up
8306s	um so it's not actually an effective way
8307s	of limiting distance and also as
8311s	mentioned in previous segments
8314s	screening is a thing so if you just hit
8316s	approach and you take no measure to try
8319s	and avoid the enemy team's tackle on
8321s	your burning then you're likely to get
8323s	screened away which is what we saw with
8324s	one of the Shacks in that previous match
8327s	separated from the rest of his team
8329s	outside the damage range it doesn't do
8331s	much for your chances of winning
8335s	yeah sometimes you see um in the top
8338s	tier teams when they're chasing Darren
8340s	uh a kite income rather than just not
8343s	even just approaching with the uh
8345s	approach but not even moving it in as a
8347s	group trying to get in front of someone
8348s	they'll split up and they will try and
8350s	make a sort of pincer movement because
8351s	we are in an arena here it's 125
8353s	kilometers radius from the center if you
8356s	fly outside of that then Kaboom you
8358s	explode uh some teams know that better
8360s	than others
8361s	um if you are burning away from the bad
8364s	guys and they're coming up behind you
8366s	and you're getting close to that 125
8368s	kilometers you have to turn so if you
8370s	turn One Direction and they're all
8371s	following you then that's not so bad
8373s	it's going to be a bit hairy they're
8374s	going to get a bit closer than you maybe
8376s	want but you're still going to get away
8377s	however if you can send a ship around
8380s	the side and you'll force them to turn
8381s	the other direction then you're really
8382s	limiting uh their options to move uh and
8386s	you can do that using the elite tactic
8388s	of double clicking in space uh something
8391s	that we we train all Pilots for to make
8393s	sure that they are they're capable of to
8395s	Advanced piloting I was going to say and
8399s	then you win last tournament
8400s	I think some teams would disagree with
8402s	your comment that you know you'll be
8404s	forced to turn at 125 kilometer Mark we
8407s	saw I think six people disagree with you
8409s	in a single match
8411s	um not so long ago so yeah
8416s	and no one actually forces you to turn
8417s	it's a personal decision that you and
8420s	you alone
8421s	um have to make do I want to stay within
8423s	the confines of the arena or do I want
8425s	to seek Glory beyond the infamous Edge
8429s	of Glory and I always say the same thing
8431s	you know do whatever your heart tells
8432s	you if your heart says Hey 233
8434s	kilometers that's my goal then you know
8437s	peace out and I will see you in a
8439s	Valhalla uh but let's have a look at the
8442s	the brackets as they stand now in this
8445s	nifantara group uh we've already got
8447s	Odin's car moving into the final but who
8449s	are they going to play uh well it's
8450s	going to be the winner of laser Hawks
8453s	versus percussive Pizza Time diplomacy
8455s	that is uh going to be a spicy match it
8459s	doesn't look entirely right uh as Odin's
8461s	called just lost to Picasso won against
8463s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy so I'm
8465s	going to say the other semi-final is
8466s	going to be kitchen sinkhole versus
8468s	laser Hawks that seems more correct to
8470s	me
8471s	uh
8473s	who needs accuracy we can just we could
8475s	just speak words uh so yeah catching
8477s	senko versus laser Hawks that's coming
8478s	up and uh the winner of that will go
8481s	forward to face Odin's call
8484s	um it's gonna be a spicy one both of
8486s	them are Wormhole groups both of them
8487s	have had pretty good showings and Laser
8489s	Hawks uh going 2-0 versus the Ancients
8492s	and percussive Pizza Time diplomacy
8494s	kitchen sinkhole uh they won against
8496s	reform blob but they dropped one to uh
8499s	Odin's call Odin's call of course uh
8502s	have been undefeated today are going 3-0
8505s	turn on the group stage and one all in
8507s	the semi-finals so laser Hawks in theory
8510s	have the advantage here do we think
8512s	kitchen sinkhole are going to pull
8513s	something at the bag here of Blackbird
8515s	pirate and take a w over laser Hawks
8518s	I I feel like they're both about equal
8521s	teams which I'm sure is you know
8524s	obviously one of them is going to be
8525s	more equal than the other one and we're
8526s	going to find that out in about like
8528s	eight or so minutes here but
8531s	um
8532s	I will say that kitchen sinkhole has not
8535s	been particularly impressive today in my
8538s	opinion uh they're flying this like
8541s	kind of weird I'm looking at it right
8543s	now this very weird Rush that I feel
8547s	um I've kind of commented on it in our
8549s	little back Channel but they're
8550s	basically flying like a 4000 DPS memitar
8552s	Rush which is like two or three thousand
8555s	DPS less than everybody else has been
8558s	matar rush and since 2000 is a you know
8562s	2000 DPS less is bad the 6000 is more
8565s	than four thousand they're probably
8568s	going to lose if they get into a room
8569s	until I Rush with each other so I kind
8570s	of want to see them bring out something
8572s	different
8573s	um they've been sort of
8575s	just today they've not been impressive
8576s	they've been very impressive for the
8577s	rest of the tournament but today it's
8578s	been kind of like uh I don't I'm not I'm
8581s	not really feeling you guys
8584s	there you have it six thousand a larger
8586s	number than four thousand uh large if
8589s	factual mystical Mike what are your
8591s	thoughts here on this upcoming matchup I
8593s	I know you've got some of the the comps
8595s	that we've seen before do you agree with
8597s	Bart take care
8598s	I mean if we just look at what both
8601s	teams have actually brought previously
8602s	kitchen sinkhole out of the I think six
8606s	matches that we've got listed here I
8607s	brought mimitar Rush six times which is
8611s	very very focused on one particular comp
8613s	they have made some changes uh depending
8616s	on the bands that they've come up
8617s	against
8617s	um we saw that that wasn't actually a
8619s	favorable change in the last match that
8621s	they played there were better ships that
8623s	they could bring they could have swapped
8624s	the Claymores for Nighthawks instead
8625s	boosted their damage number greatly and
8628s	they may have been able to blast through
8629s	a couple of the couple of the Shacks
8631s	that they came up against
8633s	um whereas laser Hawks no they're
8636s	records pretty good
8638s	um they've had a mixture of Battleship
8640s	or lens
8641s	um Shield rush and also a bar guest kite
8644s	that they filtered today I believe
8646s	um I think the only comp that they've
8648s	really lost with is a double bar guest
8650s	kite which has a little bit less support
8652s	and a little bit less in the way of
8654s	Rapid like missile launchers
8656s	um and thus application all that kind of
8658s	stuff towards the lower end
8660s	um I'd have to favor laser hawks just
8662s	based on the fact that laser Hawks have
8664s	shown that they can bring more than one
8667s	archetype
8671s	awesome thank you
8673s	um Now using the power of rewinding time
8675s	and getting it right this time we can
8677s	look at the the brackets once again and
8680s	just confirm with our own two eyes that
8682s	we are indeed right yes because of Pizza
8683s	Time diplomacy they have made it uh
8686s	their name is somewhat long which is
8688s	good for our brackets uh they're no
8690s	longer in the tournament so they're gone
8691s	and they there we go doing it live we're
8694s	doing it live ladies and gentlemen uh
8696s	Odin's call uh took the W there and they
8699s	are moving forward into the final uh it
8702s	will be up against the winner of kitchen
8703s	sinkhole versus Liz Hawks lizard's
8706s	looking a bit small there can we make
8707s	them a little bit bigger maybe fill them
8708s	up a little bit more I mean kitchen
8709s	sinkhole's got a bigger phone I don't
8711s	think that's particularly Fair uh for
8713s	kitchen sinkhole versus laser Hogs no if
8716s	I can't get that added oh there we go
8717s	laser Hawks there we go Oh that's oh
8720s	dear that's uh that's not good they've
8722s	boundary that's not a good sign okay
8724s	they're back in we're good
8726s	um speaking of this matchup let's look
8727s	at the bands for kitchen sinkhole versus
8730s	laser Hawk and see what these teams are
8733s	saying no you shall not bring
8735s	um
8736s	any moment now here we are so kitchen
8738s	sinkhole Banning out the zarmazad and
8741s	the bar guest laser Hawks Banning Out
8743s	The Vindicator and the curse Blackboard
8746s	pirate what are you thinking here
8749s	uh I I don't really get the zarmed fan I
8752s	don't think laser Hawks has brought it
8753s	at all but kitchen sinkhole really likes
8755s	to ban it uh the Bargas span though I
8757s	mean we just saw laser Hawks win very
8760s	convincingly with their little Bargas
8761s	kite um so I think that kitchen sinkhole
8763s	is kind of looking at that and saying oh
8766s	we really don't want to fight that
8768s	um laser Hawks The Vindicator curse span
8771s	very very standard very solid uh very
8774s	good at stopping a Minotaur rush so
8778s	you know we've seen laser Hawks actually
8779s	do spectacularly well with their version
8781s	of Minotaur rush I think that uh that
8784s	might be what they're trying to bring
8785s	here and if so I'm a little worried for
8787s	kitchen sinkhole
8789s	interesting uh Misty why is that Bargas
8793s	so powerful we saw it feels it's a great
8794s	effect uh in a match other one today but
8797s	you know why do people love it so much
8800s	yeah I mean the bar guest is a really
8802s	flexible ship
8804s	um it's one of these stronger faction uh
8806s	pirate battleships that you can build on
8808s	TQ in general
8810s	um one of the bonuses of the bar guest
8812s	is to its tackle range so if you fit a
8816s	warp disruptor which is fairly useless
8818s	in the 80 or a scram which is incredibly
8820s	useful in the 80. you'll be able to
8823s	tackle out to increased ranges so that
8825s	could be about 20 kilometers on the bar
8826s	guest which allows you to slow down or
8829s	prevent ships from getting on top of you
8831s	and your team alongside that some of the
8835s	downsides of missile launches is that
8837s	there is an extended flight time so if
8839s	you're 100 kilometers away from a Target
8841s	and you fire your missiles at a Target
8843s	it will take nine to ten seconds for
8845s	that missile to hit and in that time if
8848s	you know for example they need to
8850s	reposition to get their Logistics
8852s	forgets closer they'll be able to do
8854s	that and it will take some of the
8856s	initial damage it could be doing away
8859s	um with the bar guest
8861s	demisiles zip across the Grid in the
8864s	space like two or three seconds it's
8865s	basically like a gun
8867s	um an Eve online it's very quick to
8869s	apply
8871s	um
8871s	they're just really good ships and like
8873s	I said before they're fairly flexible so
8875s	they can be armor or Shield fit
8876s	depending on the comp that you're
8878s	bringing we have seen some of our guests
8880s	so far in the tournament I don't think
8882s	they've necessarily performed too well
8884s	um but perhaps it's just a matter of
8886s	piloting and some of the theory crafting
8888s	that goes into that
8891s	yeah I mean armor bar guests are pretty
8893s	cool and they're not as uh fast or agile
8896s	potentially as uh their Shield
8898s	counterparts of course they have a lot
8900s	of mids for uh additional utility ewar
8904s	um and the likes you know that long ring
8907s	bonus scram really good for uh stopping
8910s	uh people from flying away from you
8911s	which is a fantastic if you want to
8913s	apply damage to its face uh the bar guys
8915s	was a very popular choice it's a
8916s	flagship uh last year in Alliance
8918s	tournament 17 of course it was uh
8919s	discounted points the flagship rules
8922s	which don't exist in the trials that
8924s	we're playing for the day have been
8925s	updated once again for the mineralized
8927s	tournament uh to see the removal of
8930s	Abyssal modules we saw plenty of Abyssal
8932s	modules last year but now it's back to
8935s	just just run of the mill Cheapo officer
8938s	modules uh now so you can no longer
8941s	stick on a 250 Bill Abyssal web it's
8943s	only maybe like an 80 Bill Abyssal web
8946s	uh so it's basically Alliance tournament
8949s	for poor people now Blackboard right in
8952s	terms of flagships what are your
8953s	favorites uh uh in in several live
8955s	stream in history
8957s	an alliance tournament history I would
8960s	say that I I love flag balgorns because
8962s	they were so oppressively broken that
8964s	they are no longer allowed to be flown
8966s	anymore in the alliance tournament but
8968s	um they were probably
8971s	I I don't want to say that they were
8972s	definitely it was not an interesting
8974s	choice because every single person
8975s	brought flag balgorn but they did
8978s	make the game kind of they made the
8981s	matches fun like I enjoyed uh flying in
8983s	matches with flag balgorns uh flag
8985s	backgrounds were always really expensive
8988s	so that helped a little bit
8990s	um since people would be like Oh I'm in
8992s	a flag Al Gordon I have to buy Toba Toby
8994s	Webbs which like would go from like 50
8996s	to 80 billion is so every time a flag
8998s	bow growing with dough well
9000s	200 billion this Battleship just died
9002s	that's pretty cool
9003s	um
9004s	so that that was my favorite obviously
9006s	you can't do that anymore the rules say
9007s	that you cannot bring a flag balgorn
9010s	like period that is there's no like oh
9013s	well what if I do this no
9015s	um however we did relax the battle or
9017s	the uh Flagship rules a little bit this
9018s	year which is pretty cool so we uh can
9022s	bring webs again and newts I believe
9024s	that's the big difference which means I
9026s	think we'll see a little bit more
9027s	variety than we did last year
9029s	um last year in all honesty the flagship
9031s	rules were maybe a little bit too harsh
9033s	uh which is why all you saw were
9036s	Flagship Argus there wasn't really
9038s	anything else because you couldn't bring
9039s	newts you couldn't bring webs you could
9041s	basically bring
9042s	damage mods the image dealing things and
9046s	that was about it so uh for this year
9049s	I'm not sure what people are going to
9050s	bring I believe the flagship lock-in is
9052s	directly after the feeders I think it's
9054s	sometime next week is when the official
9056s	it's either next week or the uh
9058s	like the Monday after next week is when
9060s	there's the official hey you need to
9062s	tell us what your flagships are so once
9063s	we see that we'll maybe have a bit more
9065s	of an idea of what people are going to
9066s	be doing
9068s	yeah it's a little bit after this to
9070s	give the teams who are competing for the
9073s	sports time to actually submit a
9075s	flagship uh Choice it would be rather
9077s	unfortunate if they had to go through
9078s	all the effort of thinking about it
9079s	picking one buying everything and then
9081s	not make it through the feeders so we
9083s	certainly give them an opportunity as a
9086s	reminder six teams Advanced for the
9088s	feeders uh these Minotaur trials
9089s	yesterday from the various different
9091s	groups uh those teams being a hill now
9094s	bright side of death Lexus Matari Rusty
9096s	haginas Clan hidden Leaf
9098s	Etc and Exodus the remaining teams that
9102s	we're seeing today are all competing for
9104s	that one remaining final slot and only
9106s	three of those teams remain kitchen sink
9108s	core laser Hawks and Odin's call uh
9111s	we're just waiting for the teams to land
9112s	on grid there was a small technical
9114s	delay uh spelled with an o s m o l which
9118s	has now been solved as I see the teams
9120s	Landing so oh boy let's find out who's
9123s	going to win between kitchen sinkhole
9126s	and laserhawks with your casters out
9135s	hello everyone this is hopefully the
9137s	newly audible Alexa of card
9140s	and we are here with kitchen sinkhole
9142s	and Laser Hawks kitchen sinkhole
9145s	finally bringing something different
9146s	they've got a balhorn Absolution Ashima
9149s	high-end with a scythe Fleet issue which
9151s	looks like a holdover from one of their
9153s	previous comps and what do we have for
9155s	laser Hawks
9157s	you know I when uh when I saw both of
9159s	these ships on D scan I was certain
9161s	which team was going to be flying what
9163s	because laser hooks have brought a
9165s	Minotaur Rush comp and not just any
9167s	Minotaur Rush cup is pretty much the
9169s	same one the kitchen sinkhole ran
9171s	through their group stages earlier in
9173s	the day so this is going to be a really
9175s	interesting matchup kitchen Cinco
9177s	they're going to be looking to try and
9178s	slow this match down spread out the
9180s	attack from this laser Hawks team
9182s	um and meanwhile uh laser hooks just
9185s	gonna be looking to get on top of
9187s	something and just blow it up I imagine
9189s	the ashimu the safely issue or maybe the
9192s	Thalia Deacon are going to be their
9194s	primary targets here and those Loki's
9195s	can just reach out and grab things so
9197s	they've got to be careful here
9199s	yep laser Hawks diving in as you might
9201s	expect trying to get screened by the
9202s	heretic and the he's now in a cloud of
9206s	drones uh looks like a deacon may have
9208s	gotten on got caught here they're not
9210s	going for him right now but he does a
9212s	very bad position if they turn and
9214s	Tackle him that could be lights out for
9216s	their Logistics but so far it seems like
9218s	they're going for the Le Shack they're
9220s	trying to headshot the kitchen sinkhole
9222s	cop here by taking out their biggest
9224s	source of damage and they are making
9226s	excellent progress as it dips alarmingly
9229s	rapidly into half armor
9231s	yeah you can see a couple of uh rep Bots
9234s	dropping out from this kitchen sinkhole
9236s	team trying to keep them up but that LE
9238s	Shack is dropping dangerously fast and
9240s	so little damage is getting spread
9242s	across the other side of the team look
9244s	at how girthy that laser Hawks attack
9246s	bar is it is absolutely dwarfing what
9248s	kitchen sinkhole are putting out is that
9250s	the shack goes into structure and goes
9252s	down oh this is devastating here for
9254s	kitchen sick oh they needed that ship
9255s	alive to really take them into the late
9257s	game here they've got to slow down this
9259s	laser hooks team somehow how do you
9262s	think they're going to be able to do
9262s	that alexiev
9264s	well there they just took out a burst uh
9267s	they might be able to successfully uh
9270s	kill the lodgy of laser Hawks but that's
9272s	not really going to do a lot for them
9273s	they need to remove some of this damage
9275s	the balgorn is a tremendous ship for
9278s	control and it has turned several
9280s	matches before but crucially
9282s	neutralizers will not turn off any of
9285s	the damage on the laser Hawks team they
9287s	need to remove this DPS with their own
9289s	DPS and unfortunately they just lost
9290s	most of it
9292s	yeah it looks like most of these
9294s	Battleground newts are just going on to
9296s	the scalpel just trying to take him take
9299s	his Effectiveness Off the Grid and that
9300s	doesn't matter when you blow him up
9301s	really this Battleground probably wants
9303s	to be putting his newts on the low-keys
9305s	of this laser hooks team turning off
9307s	those long range webs stopping them from
9309s	being able to apply to the smaller ships
9311s	of this kitchen sinkhole team you can
9313s	see there the deacon now going low
9314s	because of those webs and dropping here
9317s	this is devastating in the kitchen
9318s	sinkhole there's there's still a chance
9320s	that they can pull this back but laser
9322s	Hawks definitely have the advantage
9323s	right now
9325s	yeah the one Saving Grace they had was
9328s	having their largely up now the Thalia
9330s	is still alive but you can start to see
9331s	it taking some damage without a
9333s	logistics partner it'll have rep Bots
9335s	but it's not going to be able to
9337s	withstand the amount of damage that
9338s	these left news and low-keys are putting
9340s	out the safe lead issue going down will
9342s	be a nice win for kitchen sinkhole but
9344s	it's just not going to be enough once
9346s	that failure drops the Absolution will
9348s	follow shortly and that is pretty much
9350s	all of their damage output the eshimu
9352s	safe Fleet issue of battleground is just
9354s	not going to be enough to get through
9355s	the Loki or the suffering tanks
9358s	yeah they've spent so much time focusing
9360s	on Carl raholin in the slept near and he
9363s	hasn't even really had to pull away he's
9365s	been happy to just sit in the middle of
9366s	this brawl at the center of the Arena uh
9369s	getting just burning through his ASB
9371s	charges he will run out of them
9372s	eventually but not before kitchen
9374s	sinkhole runs out of DPS by the looks of
9376s	things as that Absolution goes down as
9378s	well
9380s	and here we see the safe Fleet issue uh
9383s	someone didn't get the memo that they
9384s	were switching comps and Luke's 87 drops
9387s	immediately
9388s	yeah you you know you'd have thought the
9390s	kitchen sinkhole they'd have known the
9392s	wind conditions here for the um mimitar
9395s	Rush comp they seemed so practiced with
9397s	it so good at it
9398s	um in previous matches I would have
9401s	loved to have seen a mirror here
9402s	honestly I think that would have been
9403s	spectacular but that's not the match we
9405s	saw uh the bowel gone here now of barole
9408s	is going down and once he drops I don't
9410s	think there's any possible hope of
9412s	kitchen sinkhole pulling their way back
9414s	into this game really nice execution
9416s	here from laser Hawks though they just
9418s	burnt in they saw what they needed to do
9421s	take out the two the two or three DPS
9423s	ships that were gonna ever really phase
9424s	them and they executed on that perfectly
9427s	they didn't get bogged down with what I
9428s	suggested maybe going for some of the
9430s	lighter ships
9431s	um breaking up the screen before they
9434s	engaged and just went for the kill shot
9436s	and it's worked out spectacularly for
9438s	them
9439s	yeah laser Hawks knew their win
9441s	condition and they were laser focused on
9443s	achieving it they dove in they ignored
9446s	all tackle all the the smaller ships the
9448s	smallest the fleet vigil the easy target
9451s	of the Scythe which honestly could have
9453s	been bait pick for them you know you you
9455s	see a fleet scythe and an armor cop you
9457s	just want to take it off the field they
9459s	cut through all of that and went right
9461s	for the Le Shack but everything they had
9463s	into removing it straight away because
9464s	they knew that if that DPS was off the
9466s	field kitchen sinkhole would just not be
9469s	able to claw back the match
9472s	that's what we're seeing there's now the
9473s	ashimu of lessican is starting to take
9476s	some fire as well as Alpha Chalk's
9477s	malice now the Ashima is actually
9479s	putting out a fair bit of damage it
9481s	might kill the Loki but I'm gonna doubt
9483s	it
9484s	yeah this kind of shows what uh what I
9486s	was talking about the Loki is so reliant
9489s	on its active hardness and it does not
9491s	have any spare mids for injectors so if
9493s	you're able to mute that thing out it
9495s	has you know 20 to 30k ehp it is pretty
9498s	much dead in the water once you drain
9500s	out its capacitor
9502s	um but instead you know maybe a minor
9505s	execution issue there although it was
9506s	always going to be tough and it looks
9508s	like laser Hawks have this game clasp
9510s	firmly within their talents so let's
9512s	hand it back to the studio and discuss a
9514s	little bit more about what we can expect
9516s	from the finals
9538s	thank you
9548s	thank you
9559s	[Music]
9580s	I'm fine with us
9586s	[Music]
9591s	well there you have it it took us 62
9593s	matches but 35 teams have become just
9597s	two and of those two only one of them
9600s	can advance into alliance tournament 18
9603s	and oh boy do they have a mountain
9605s	declined to get there Odin's call are
9607s	our first finalists laser Hawks are our
9610s	second finalist and they are now going
9612s	into the absolutely grueling best of
9614s	three uh series of matches here so they
9617s	will have to play up to three matches
9619s	you know one of the teams could just gig
9620s	a dunk twice and then that's GG no re
9622s	we're into alliance tournament 18 or of
9625s	course if you're one and one and then we
9626s	go to that third and final match we do
9629s	have the conquest bands in place for
9632s	this Wormhole group final here so if you
9635s	win you lose access to all of those
9637s	ships if you lose the next match taking
9639s	it to the the third place match then all
9641s	bands are undone once again so uh we
9644s	could see one team win and lose
9646s	everything is unbanned and then we're
9648s	into the final match where Winner Takes
9650s	all by all I mean access to Alliance
9653s	tournament 18
9655s	um in just over a month but until then
9658s	we have a short break so we'll be back
9660s	in about 15 minutes to talk about that
9662s	first match see you then
9668s	welcome back to the finals here of these
9672s	uh Minotaur trials the last remaining
9675s	spot in Alliance tournament 18 and it's
9677s	going to be between Odin's call and
9679s	Laser Hawks two very successful teams
9681s	here we've seen both of them get through
9683s	uh except they all dropped a match
9686s	yesterday to get into this Redemption
9687s	rack but this is time time to redeem
9690s	themselves can they do it can they make
9692s	a final spot theirs or will they lose it
9695s	to their opponents at Battle of the
9697s	wormholers is pretty even and and your
9699s	Twitch Channel points basically 50 50 49
9702s	to 51 right now so make sure you drop
9705s	all your channel points on the team you
9706s	want to support win big get dank skins
9710s	um or not maybe you lose uh but uh I
9713s	definitely recommend uh giving it a
9715s	solid go
9716s	um Blackboard pirate should we take a
9718s	look at the bands for Odin's versus
9720s	laser Hawks match one
9722s	I I think we should absolutely take a
9724s	look at the band's friends versus laser
9726s	Hawks Nash one awesome let's look at the
9728s	bands now uh so just waiting here they
9732s	are so Odin's called Banning out again
9734s	Loki slept near super common bands from
9736s	them they've just decided that these
9738s	ships are uh the enemies and must never
9740s	be flown and they've stuck with that for
9742s	for quite a while now laser Hawks
9743s	Banning out Vindicator Le Shack uh so
9746s	strong Webby boy and Strong's Billy boy
9748s	mystical Mike what are we expecting here
9750s	in this first matchup uh bearing in mind
9752s	there's going to be Conquest bands
9755s	well I mean I'm expecting both teams to
9757s	be bringing their best because they are
9759s	basically fighting for the last
9761s	remaining slot in the main Alliance
9762s	tournament in November
9764s	um from the bands I'm expecting that
9767s	Odin's is trying to prevent laser Hawks
9769s	from bringing their mimitar Rush comp
9771s	which was the double slept near double
9773s	Loki that we saw in the previous match
9775s	uh quite the strong mimitar Rush
9778s	um so perhaps looking to limit the
9780s	amount of damage coming in from the
9781s	laser Hawks team whereas laser Hawks
9783s	knows that Odin has done fairly well
9785s	with their double Le chat control comp
9788s	um I don't think they've dropped a match
9789s	with it so far I mean they're pretty
9792s	experienced when it comes to the three
9794s	Battleship control as well but that
9796s	utilizes two tfi's in a balgorn so I'm
9799s	not sure how The Vindicator band really
9800s	fits into the the scheme that laser
9803s	Hawks has going here
9805s	well uh I guess there's one way to find
9807s	that and that is by going to the match
9809s	so let's head over there now to see
9811s	Odin's called take on laser Hawks with
9813s	the casters the Basilisk and moderator
9819s	hello again everybody and welcome to the
9821s	arena for this Grand final of the
9823s	Minotaur tribal trials uh laser Hawks
9826s	coming up against Odin's called both
9827s	these teams Fielding comps that we have
9828s	seen them field earlier on in the day we
9830s	did just have a look at those bands I'm
9832s	a little bit uncertain about The
9833s	Vindicator band from the laser Hawk side
9835s	because Odin's call as they did earlier
9837s	have brought bowgun which I'm expecting
9839s	will be able to effectively control
9840s	these Nighthawks they have the execution
9842s	they have the the understanding of wind
9845s	conditions and you know how they want to
9847s	fly this out and I'd expect yokan to be
9848s	able to keep these short range Mohawks
9850s	away from the rest of his comp Lord what
9852s	are your thoughts are
9853s	yeah I like the choice of coming in at
9855s	50 kilometers from the side of Odin
9858s	um deciding that you know that they're
9860s	going to have to do that in order to try
9862s	to control range as you alluded to
9865s	um when conditioned for Odin's here is
9867s	going to in fact be using their balgorn
9869s	and uh is what was their Mueller and
9872s	their Dexter to try to spread out the
9873s	Nighthawk spread out the Claymore uh to
9875s	make sure that no uh you know critical
9878s	mass of ships gets on top of any one of
9880s	these Tempest Fleet issues or the
9881s	balcorn and just nukes it
9883s	um you're gonna try to want to spread
9885s	things and string them along we see that
9887s	the valgorn is a pretty standard Oregon
9890s	fit so
9892s	using the rest of his high slots for
9895s	those bonus effective newts and already
9897s	off the start we're seeing that um
9900s	the site Fleet issue of dujorn is going
9902s	to be the first ship in here
9904s	yeah so I'm expecting totally Odin's to
9907s	try and string them out here the malice
9908s	of a Phil is heading in to try and get
9909s	first tackle and whatever's burning in
9911s	and they're just going to want to try
9912s	and string them out here and maybe burn
9913s	down these sci-fi fleets first hope that
9915s	they get ahead of the rest of the fleet
9916s	you know maybe the long range webs on
9918s	The Nighthawks or the claymore's holding
9919s	them back and sight Fleet issue is then
9921s	sort of alone exposed to the combined
9923s	guns of these Tempest fleets and this
9924s	first sightfully issue of Bjorn is
9926s	taking some chunks of damage as is the
9927s	second one of Marie but in exchange the
9929s	mallard that's tackling one of them down
9931s	of Aether is in fact getting melted by
9932s	this DPS and they're just going to plow
9934s	through him and then move on so it's
9935s	going to be you know it's that matter
9937s	does go down so you know
9939s	it's gonna Odin's need to have gained
9942s	something from that and they've gained
9943s	range but not a huge amount of control
9945s	being expressed so far they still
9947s	haven't applied any of those long range
9948s	represent the balcon they may have been
9949s	a little bit too far away from the
9951s	Maller and made his sacrifice in vain
9953s	yeah that seems to be the case just as
9956s	you were describing we see that um
9958s	critically most of the Odin's call team
9960s	is on top of
9962s	um their micro jump drive Beacon at zero
9964s	and now we see that the Tempest Fleet
9965s	issues are pretty close together the
9967s	belgian's polling range and we're seeing
9969s	the entire
9970s	uh oldies called team
9973s	um you know trying to pull away as much
9974s	as I can on top of that mjd Beacon laser
9976s	Hawks uh collapsing on top of them
9978s	getting another kill on the vexer but
9980s	you know not really getting a kill on
9982s	these like Fleet issues uh you would
9984s	hope that you would have one or possibly
9986s	two of them dead as they get one but now
9988s	Colonel Kurtz will be the primary
9991s	yeah they do get that first side flight
9992s	issue down and in AC configuration they
9994s	do pump a significant amount of damage
9996s	when they get on top of you
9998s	um but yeah Colonel Kurt's now in the
9999s	Tempest Fleet they've all piled on top
10000s	of him these Nighthawk these Claymore
10002s	drink maybe they're just pumping
10003s	missiles into him and they finally after
10005s	clearing those two Crews has been able
10006s	to get onto this priority Target of the
10008s	of the battleship here and camel Kurtz
10010s	just simply cannot withstand this with
10011s	Stan this incoming DPS
10013s	yeah I can't help but feel like Odin's
10016s	called more or less fed their vexer and
10017s	their model way too early
10019s	um and didn't really trade anything for
10021s	it now that they have no screaming ships
10023s	uh the entire core of laser Hawks is on
10026s	top of Colonel Kurtz is going to kill
10027s	him meanwhile Nick fightmaster is into
10029s	uh you know relatively low Shield but uh
10033s	the Paradigm appears to be the next uh
10035s	primary for this and looking at the
10036s	attack bars uh Odin's call is applying
10040s	um you know some damage but look at the
10043s	our laser Hawks it's so much larger
10046s	um Hardline is probably not going to
10050s	stabilize once Mick drops here in short
10052s	order
10053s	I'm not sure I mean it may depend on um
10056s	the fits here on these grids I would
10058s	expect both of these iron battleships to
10059s	have reactives fitted and of course The
10061s	Nighthawks both heavily kinetic bonus so
10063s	I'd expect both those Nighthawks to be
10064s	firing kinetic rage into the Paradigm
10066s	and if they can clear off as they have
10067s	cleared off this one size Fleet they've
10069s	cleared off the Drake Navy now we're
10070s	looking at the second size Fleet to sort
10071s	of as quickly as possible get rid of as
10073s	much DPS and as little time as possible
10075s	clear off the ships that have the
10076s	highest ratio of damage to HP they may
10078s	find that actually the Paradigm may be
10079s	able to hold
10081s	um if it's only kinetic damage coming in
10082s	and it's reactive gets fully spilled and
10084s	he's got the Reps of the deacon and the
10085s	failure and all the red Bots from all
10087s	the other ships in his comp but he is
10089s	still sort of going down it's going to
10090s	be a bit of a Race Against Time here but
10092s	yeah as you said I feel like Odin's at
10093s	the start burned off a little bit too
10094s	far they used those they had the right
10096s	idea of using those heavy Cruisers to
10097s	tackle down the incoming DPS and buy a
10099s	bit of space but perhaps a little bit
10100s	too much space
10102s	yeah I mean they do get the safe
10103s	leadership kill but their chemist Fleet
10106s	issue is down into 20
10108s	um armor the reactive will be fully um
10110s	you know shifted but you know you've
10112s	also got Claymores that can fire
10114s	whatever damage they want you've got
10115s	stifles that can fire whatever damage
10117s	they want and you're not gonna get
10119s	um a perfect
10121s	um split like it would be if it would
10122s	say you know all Omar damage that would
10124s	be you know em therm it's going to be a
10126s	wide profile of damage they're going to
10128s	break the slight bulb and probably the
10130s	burst here uh pardon is safe is getting
10132s	into low armor I mean if he doesn't
10134s	stabilize it's over because one galcon
10136s	is not going to be a claymore and a pair
10138s	of nighthawks yes Paradigm goes down
10141s	here this is going to be pretty much
10142s	signaling the end of the match here for
10143s	Odin's and he's just on the brinkering
10145s	I'm teetering on the edge of holding
10147s	there but he does just about go down and
10149s	Odin's call I mean this is one of the
10151s	closest matches we've had today
10153s	um if Paradigm had held there if they
10154s	maybe had you know another 30 seconds
10156s	maybe slightly different Target
10157s	prioritization maybe they had those
10159s	tackle cruises a little bit alive a
10160s	little bit longer and maybe maybe
10161s	managed to delay the Nighthawk
10163s	arrivaling on the scene they could have
10164s	held him just long enough and maybe he
10166s	would rep up from those Thalia and
10167s	decomposite being alive but as it is
10169s	Odin's now are going to find themselves
10171s	suffering for acute lack of damage and
10173s	it's very difficult to win from that
10175s	position
10176s	yeah I I mean looking at the attack bar
10179s	we can see that Odin's you know very low
10181s	they've got a lot of um you know active
10183s	reps that would be between uh these on
10187s	basically local to this balgorn the
10188s	Confessor going down the
10190s	um Thalia and the Deacon not able to
10193s	hold them even with links
10195s	um
10196s	kind of critically if a Confessor could
10198s	be held up a little bit longer while
10200s	getting a Nighthawk Hill maybe things
10202s	could have shifted a little bit possibly
10204s	maybe ish but
10206s	um as is
10208s	with four minutes in the match and you
10212s	know a half remaining
10214s	yotes on you're only really
10216s	realistically doing about maybe 700 800
10219s	damage
10220s	um with conflag in a balgorn meanwhile a
10222s	pair of nighthawks and a claymore is
10224s	well over 2 000. um not a good situation
10228s	to be in if you're Odin's
10230s	yeah their only hope here is that the
10232s	new pressure was so overwhelming that
10233s	he's completely shut off hardness prop
10235s	mod you know everything on autonomous
10236s	and that he's able to just melt right
10238s	through him but that doesn't really seem
10239s	to be the case and of course as we said
10242s	at the start that mallor and vexil dying
10244s	too quickly but also the celestes here
10245s	against this rosh comp is going to be
10247s	contributing basically nothing I mean
10249s	the Celeste is obviously a damn boat
10250s	most effective at sort of countering
10252s	kaity comps that want to utilize long
10253s	range and kite around the arena and you
10255s	know fight you at a distance this laser
10258s	Hawks comp obviously has just got right
10259s	up in their face and the celestes damps
10261s	are basically irrelevant
10263s	yeah so this Thalia is moving 120
10266s	kilometers so it would appear that there
10268s	um it's looks like it just double webbed
10270s	maybe trying to stabilize it's getting
10272s	out a little bit
10273s	um pulling range realizing hey maybe I'm
10275s	a felia I don't have to be on top of you
10278s	know everything at zero uh meanwhile
10280s	they're attempting to swap off the
10282s	scalpel and kill the Nighthawk
10284s	um if they do actually kill the scalpel
10286s	and Nighthawk they would be in the lead
10290s	um if the Thalia can survive
10292s	um the Deacon needs to be closer he's
10295s	possibly not with an optimal of those
10298s	reps needs to close just a little bit
10299s	the Foley is still webbed still
10302s	um still scrammed but you know this
10304s	appears to be an after burning ship this
10306s	is going to be the hyena being an
10307s	absolute Giga Chad getting off the top
10309s	of the quote to quote Ithaca earlier the
10311s	tide may be turning they are still just
10313s	about holding the stalia ERD void
10315s	daughter and the Deacon is surely
10316s	heating for his life he's doing absolute
10318s	Lord Lord's work here keeping this down
10321s	here alive and toe Sprite is starting to
10322s	pick back up again and yokan they've
10325s	stopped pumping DPS into yokan he is
10327s	actually regening shield now because
10328s	they were putting all their aggro onto
10329s	Talia but these hand boats seem to be
10332s	having trouble applying to him even when
10333s	he's fully webbed down and the Nighthawk
10335s	of artanis is finally starting to break
10337s	just this one scalpel can't keep him up
10338s	he's going into low Shields and the
10340s	damage from this bowel gone may actually
10342s	be enough to take him down and this is
10343s	going to be this is going to be razor
10345s	thin at the end I don't know who's going
10346s	to win from this position we were
10347s	calling it for laser Hawks laser Hawks
10348s	seemed to have such a commanding
10349s	position but Odin's the nighthawker
10351s	botanus is going into half armor now
10354s	yeah so this is our Thomas Knight this
10356s	our Thomas Knight Hook is going to drop
10357s	within the next 10 to 15 seconds
10359s	um that's gonna be a lot of damage that
10361s	might allow Toff to um survive if that
10363s	happens we're going to be in a point
10365s	situation where laser Hawks is up only
10368s	by three points so if any one of the
10370s	scalpel or the hyena dies within the
10373s	next two minutes they would actually
10375s	lose Odin's needs to get that Bell going
10377s	bonused webs on top of something it
10379s	probably can't be a Nighthawk or a
10381s	claymore they won't break it in time
10382s	they need to get it it can't be the
10384s	scalpel and that scalpel is right there
10386s	on top of them obviously limited range
10387s	in the logic frigates and this bowel
10389s	gone is just going to web him down and
10390s	start pumping surely Odin's they've got
10392s	the little the score counter in the
10393s	corner of their screen they can see
10394s	they're only two points behind they know
10396s	that with that Nighthawk going down
10397s	laser Hawks haven't got the DPS to break
10399s	anything anymore they weren't able to
10400s	break the failure they weren't able to
10401s	break the Bal gun they're trying on the
10403s	pontifex if they can get the six points
10404s	from the pawn to fix they'll keep in the
10406s	lead this is so intense I have one
10408s	minute 26 left my goodness so the
10410s	scalpel is trying to do everything they
10412s	can right now if you can get a zoom in
10413s	on that to manually pilot away from The
10415s	Guns of the balgorn the balgorn is
10417s	completely neuted off the scalpel and we
10420s	see a small cloud of medium rep drones
10422s	on top of him
10423s	um switching to the celestes the tech
10426s	one resists celestis
10428s	he's done nothing this match and he
10429s	might just his presence may lose it here
10431s	he he's not helping this fight he needs
10434s	to be Far Far Away head right here
10437s	they've identified him as the target
10439s	they can kill and he's going to go down
10440s	they're going to trade the celestis for
10442s	the scalpel maybe and look nasal Hawks
10444s	will still be in the lead here
10446s	yeah that's leftist needed to absolutely
10448s	be a Narnia there is no reason at this
10450s	point in the match that they shouldn't
10451s	have just gone on to a micro jump drive
10453s	Beacon and gotten the hell out of there
10454s	uh the celestis is going to drop at the
10457s	same time the scalpel and that means
10458s	that they would have to pick up a hyena
10460s	in order to be in the lead the scalpel
10461s	does drop
10463s	um the celestis can they hold the
10465s	celestis how much heat have they got
10467s	left 30 seconds left on the clock if
10469s	this celestis lives Odin's are going to
10471s	take this first win he's about 60 whole
10473s	50 whole 40 Whole 30 whole he is going
10477s	down and there's only 50 seconds
10481s	what with 14 seconds left Odin's call
10484s	snatches defeat from the jaws of Victory
10486s	uh the celestis did not need to be there
10488s	at all would an absolutely nail biting
10490s	match going down to the very edge of the
10492s	wire and I mean the desk is going to
10495s	have plenty to say about that and break
10497s	down that exhilarating match
10500s	two more of those please that was
10501s	brilliant
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10564s	wow what a new fighter laser Hawks
10567s	taking that one just just taking that
10570s	one in the last couple of seconds uh
10572s	they were able to remove that celestis
10574s	Martin Conrad and the celestes he was
10577s	caught out of position laser Hawks saw
10579s	that they they capitalized on it they
10581s	they grabbed them and they dunked them
10584s	10 seconds before the end of the match
10586s	to secure themselves uh the first win in
10589s	this best of three series uh wow what a
10592s	hype match that was incredible uh the
10594s	the piloting on both sides was was
10597s	fantastic there was some mistakes on
10599s	both sides as well uh the the balgorn
10602s	looked like he seemed to forget that he
10605s	had webs for a very long time we just
10606s	didn't see a single web effect onto uh
10608s	the Liz Hawks team for a long time and
10610s	you know spoiler alert the Battleground
10612s	good at webbing things
10614s	um Blackboard pirate
10617s	where to start with that one
10621s	I I mean I'll I will start from the
10623s	beginning the beginning of the match the
10626s	warpins was a great idea so uh owns call
10630s	uh was very very smart they predicted
10632s	that there might be a zero uh cam
10634s	warping so they warped in at 50. uh
10636s	laser Hawks warped their entire fleet in
10638s	at zero so like right off the bat
10641s	that is so huge just to protect yourself
10644s	from immediately getting dunked on and
10646s	we actually saw Owens call survive for
10648s	like you know there's almost no damage
10649s	on them for a good minute
10651s	um because they kind of tied it back I
10653s	think that I'm not sure if it was vazer
10655s	or mod or both of them or neither of
10656s	them it could have been the voices in my
10657s	head uh but somebody made a comment that
10659s	they might have tied it back a little
10661s	bit too far and
10663s	I don't know like just just that initial
10665s	first minute or so there was some
10668s	opportunities for that balgorn to like
10670s	web down both of those Fleet sites and
10673s	the valgorn kind of kept kiting back the
10675s	Paradigm went like off at a right angle
10678s	into a different area which again that's
10681s	I get it like you're spreading out and
10683s	kernel courts got caught and as soon as
10686s	that happened
10687s	they kind of needed to reclapse in
10689s	because it's like all right well at that
10689s	point it's like all right
10691s	we get it
10692s	we're getting on like get Paradigm
10695s	back in like we saw him shooting from
10696s	like 25 kilometers away and the thing
10699s	with auto cannons is they their damage
10702s	fall off is huge so like when you're 25
10704s	away even in even with large Auto
10706s	cannons even with the Tempest Fleet
10708s	issue you really want to be at about
10709s	like five to ten and I think that like
10711s	that alone like that was the first big
10714s	error that I saw was that once the blob
10718s	started the Paradigm was a bit too far
10720s	away and the balgorn was kind of kited
10721s	way too back like you have these giant
10723s	whips you can use them to scream
10724s	and the screening Pilots I know it's
10726s	called it fantastic like but they just
10727s	they died really fast which you're going
10729s	to against Minotaur rush so there's just
10731s	some like
10732s	really weird positioning stuff that
10734s	really screwed up the start for Odin
10736s	said I think if they had adjusted that
10738s	would have been like a clean sweep for
10740s	them almost
10742s	yeah I mean picture out to um yokan in
10745s	that balgar and uh doing an amazing job
10748s	carrying his team to the just the edge
10750s	of Victory there all by himself in a gun
10753s	barrel and notoriously not the most uh
10756s	dpsy of ships but I mean he could have
10758s	done that with a tour sprot 995 and uh
10762s	ERD void daughter in Natalia Deacon
10764s	combo they also doing a fantastic job
10767s	moving around the field keeping
10768s	everybody alive as long as they could
10770s	they kept that balgar and Alive under a
10773s	lot of DPS coming in from The Nighthawks
10775s	and the claimers for way longer than
10777s	they really had any right to uh mystical
10780s	might laser Hawks obviously uh managed
10782s	to pull this one out of the bag
10785s	um what was it they did so well that
10786s	allowed them to do that
10789s	so
10790s	I'm thinking
10792s	at the very beginning we saw the safely
10794s	issues burning in and then they started
10796s	taking an incredible amount of damage
10800s	um what some other teams may have done
10801s	is fully committed London tried to get
10803s	tackle on the battleships and then seen
10805s	those scifully issues die early on what
10808s	laser Hawks did is pull back when they
10810s	began to take damage and instead
10812s	collapsed in on that molar that was
10814s	tackled in the middle of the battle
10815s	cruiser blob which ensured that this
10817s	Cipher issues actually survived a little
10819s	bit longer allowed them to put their
10820s	damage into the first Emperor's Fleet
10822s	issue that went down and it basically
10824s	swung the match into a state where we
10826s	weren't actually sure what was going to
10828s	happen until the last five seconds of
10829s	the match because I mean the the back
10832s	channel that we have where we were
10833s	discussing what's happening in the match
10834s	is basically just a bunch of reaction
10835s	gifts and caps locks at this point
10839s	um as we were trying to figure out okay
10841s	which way is this going to swing in the
10843s	last minute or so of the match
10846s	um trying to guard people on but
10848s	yeah I mean laser Hawks I think took the
10851s	opportunities that were given to them
10853s	they realized that they had to actually
10854s	kill the celestis because they weren't
10856s	going to be able to kill anything else
10857s	after they failed to kill kill the
10859s	failure towards the middle of the match
10861s	and that ensured that they were actually
10863s	I would take take this match away
10865s	otherwise they would have lost a history
10867s	on the point differences when that
10870s	Nighthawk and that scalper went down
10872s	yeah definitely shout out to laser Hawks
10874s	there for noticing that celestis was out
10876s	of position and then grabbing them and
10878s	switching onto them um right at the end
10880s	of that match there as Missy says if
10881s	they hadn't done that then they would
10883s	have actually lost that match on points
10884s	one of the things you'll see a lot of
10886s	teams do is when someone dies you don't
10889s	really care that they're dead or not you
10891s	tell them to die quietly but they will
10892s	say something like you know Nighthawk
10894s	down so the team knows and then from
10896s	that point on you become an observer
10898s	your job is to sit there in your capsule
10900s	and look at the arena and call out
10902s	things so you might find that one of the
10904s	uh departed pilots from laser Hawks was
10908s	watching the arena and spotted that
10910s	Sylvester sitting there and not moving
10912s	or in the wrong position and called out
10914s	to his remaining colleagues like hey
10915s	that celestis is right there grab them
10917s	so that kind of uh tactical thinking and
10921s	keeping an eye in the situation can be
10923s	the difference exactly in this case of
10925s	win and loss if they hadn't done that if
10928s	they hadn't made that adjustment then
10930s	Liz Ox would have lost on point to
10932s	Oden's call there honestly one of my
10935s	favorite matches that we've seen this
10937s	this year in uh Alliance tournament uh
10940s	what a great match you love it when you
10941s	can't tell like nine minutes 30 seconds
10945s	into the match and you still don't know
10946s	who's going to win like that's what you
10949s	want you want to see those uh incredible
10951s	matches so fantastic job from both pilot
10953s	both teams and all the pilots involved
10956s	we definitely want to see more of that
10959s	unfortunately for laser Hawks they now
10961s	have to deal with Conquest bands so by
10964s	virtue of winning with those ships they
10966s	can no longer bring those ships so for
10969s	them along with the bands that Odin's
10971s	will submit and of course the bands that
10972s	they will submit themselves for the next
10973s	match they cannot bring the Nighthawk
10976s	the Claymore the Navy Drake Fleet Scythe
10978s	the scalpel the hyena the speeple and
10981s	the burst Odin's can bring those ships
10984s	if they're not banned regularly
10987s	uh laser Hawks cannot
10989s	wardens can also bring the same comp
10991s	they just brought so if they think hey
10992s	you know we've executed that one
10994s	relatively well we made a couple of
10995s	mistakes it's a good comp
10997s	um they can bring the balgar and the
10999s	double Fleet Tempest the Ponte Celeste
11000s	Talia Deacon Confessor Mueller Bexar
11003s	again and triangle uh one to one in this
11006s	series uh mister you've played in uh
11009s	best of uh matches uh with Conquest
11012s	bands what's the what's the kind of the
11014s	thought process here for these type of
11016s	teams do you want to just say hey we
11018s	know this comp is good we're going to
11019s	bring it again or do you try and bring
11021s	something different
11023s	so if it's your best comp and you're
11026s	fairly confident that you should be able
11028s	to win most matchups that you go into if
11030s	you're fairly confident that you should
11031s	have won the last match up that you went
11032s	into by you lost because of a small
11034s	piloting decision then you can probably
11037s	feel pretty comfortable trying to bring
11038s	that same comp again uh the issue being
11041s	since you've shown this comp now to the
11044s	latest Hawks team in this case they can
11046s	just ban
11047s	The Tempest lead issue if they wanted to
11049s	and remove your ability to actually
11051s	bring the balcon double Tempest Fleet
11053s	issue
11054s	um as your your comp of choice
11058s	um Odin's do have a couple of other
11061s	comps that they can fall back on so you
11063s	know the Le Shack control comp also
11065s	being a good one for them to bring as
11066s	well
11067s	um but again you know I think I we just
11069s	see laser Hawks ban temp split issue the
11072s	shack and then I don't actually know
11074s	what Odin is going to be able to bring
11076s	because they've not really shown too
11077s	much in the way of comp depth so far
11083s	that can sometimes be
11085s	um a tactical decision you know they've
11086s	done relatively well getting to this
11088s	stage
11089s	um if you can show the least amount of
11090s	comp versatility as possible that's good
11093s	for you because it makes it harder for
11095s	your opponents to specifically look at
11097s	what you bring and then force you into
11098s	comp and you're at specific comps you
11101s	know we see that in the main Alliance
11103s	tournament sometimes teams managed to
11105s	make all the way through to the the
11107s	semi-finals of the finals and then
11108s	suddenly they pull out a comp that no
11111s	one has seen uh all Alliance tournament
11113s	they've had that in their back pocket
11114s	they knew it was a very very strong comp
11116s	and they've avoided using it until the
11119s	last possible minute because it gives
11120s	teams less time to sit there and think
11122s	oh hang on how do we counter that uh
11125s	Bart you've played in a bunch of matches
11127s	over the years uh including I believe
11128s	you told me you've you've killed three
11129s	atomas which is pretty rid of you
11132s	um what's what goes through the mind of
11133s	teams when you you work in and you see a
11136s	comp that you've not prepared for like
11138s	what do you do
11140s	I mean you're probably screwed like
11142s	honestly you know that's that is
11145s	literally the worst possible situation
11147s	to ever be in is to show up and be like
11150s	I don't know what this is and have to
11152s	figure it out on the Fly
11154s	um
11155s	that's like absolutely the chances of
11159s	you actually winning that are pretty low
11161s	especially if the other team doesn't
11163s	have the same reaction uh
11165s	so like you'd expect that you know
11168s	something like Minotaur Rush this has
11170s	been a comp for like two years now at
11172s	least that it's been extremely good um
11173s	ever since the uh the surgical strength
11177s	changes turn around what the the name of
11179s	it was where damage of everybody went up
11181s	a bunch the Minotaur rush or the ham
11184s	Rush has been
11185s	incredibly powerful so that
11189s	hypothetically you should have practiced
11191s	every single one of your comps into and
11193s	understand can it beat it and can it not
11195s	and in all honesty if your comp can't
11197s	beat Minotaur rush you should probably
11199s	just like throw it in the trash because
11200s	you can't really vanish or rush out
11203s	personal opinion on that
11204s	um
11205s	now that being said
11207s	I'm hoping Odin's has something like
11210s	crazy that they're about to pull out
11211s	here because you know Misty's 100 right
11213s	they've shown the same thing they're
11215s	basically running either this Tula Shack
11216s	control setup or they're running this
11219s	TFI balgorn setup
11221s	and they've been flying it really really
11222s	well but apparently they didn't practice
11224s	it versus Minotaur Rush enough or they
11226s	did and they just had an execution error
11229s	um so kind of hoping they're about to
11231s	pull something crazy out that laser
11233s	Hawks has never seen before just so we
11235s	don't end up getting a 2-0 because more
11237s	matches is better uh we will we'll see
11240s	what happens though
11242s	yeah I'm looking forward to more matches
11244s	I mean to be honest shout out to all the
11246s	the teams that we've seen playing not
11247s	just today but over the entire two
11249s	weekends of uh these trials we saw some
11252s	absolutely stupendous matches yesterday
11254s	in fact uh between a bunch of the teams
11257s	that secure themselves spots by uh
11260s	virtue of not losing basically which is
11262s	a solid solid strategy and I definitely
11264s	recommend it uh the hidden Leaf Village
11267s	Ninja Assassin Esports squad team versus
11270s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy was a
11272s	great match uh it really went down to
11273s	the wire just like that one we just saw
11275s	and I believe rights of death versus
11277s	Odin's car was also uh a really really
11280s	good match we saw a whole bunch
11281s	yesterday and that last one in our first
11284s	of these three best well potentially
11286s	three uh best of three finals uh was uh
11290s	to be honest not just a great one for
11292s	these viewers but a great one in
11294s	Alliance tournament in general in my
11296s	opinion uh I just Mister you had you
11299s	said it pretty much right uh just
11300s	looking through our sort of back our
11303s	Channel discussion is literally just
11305s	emojis reaction gifts and caps lock you
11309s	know and everyone knows caps lock as
11311s	cruise control for awesome so everyone
11313s	just like venting emotions watching that
11315s	match for for a full 10 minutes
11318s	um now you mentioned that if they wanted
11320s	to lizard Hogs they could ban out that
11322s	comp
11323s	by Banning the fleet Tempest
11326s	um they chose last time to ban The
11328s	Vindicator and the shack so which of
11330s	those bands do you think they'll they
11332s	would want to drop perhaps in order to
11334s	ban it actually Tempest if this will
11336s	choose
11337s	I mean just looking back at some of the
11340s	other comps that laser Hawks has flown
11343s	um they've used their
11345s	version of The Rush comp as opposed the
11347s	sleptner and the Loki was actually
11348s	banned out so it's not something that we
11350s	saw in this last match if it's not
11352s	banned this time it's maybe something
11353s	that we will see this time
11355s	um replacing the safely issues with
11357s	stability tissues if they wanted to so
11358s	there is a bit of flexibility that I
11360s	have on this side there but besides that
11363s	they've used Battleship all in and bar
11365s	guest kite so I'm expecting that they
11367s	may switch The Vindicator ban for a
11371s	either a balcon band or a tempest Fleet
11373s	issue ban and then they can just bring
11375s	their kite comp
11376s	hope that you know Odin's doesn't really
11378s	have anything that they can bring to
11380s	accurately counter that and they should
11382s	be in a pretty good spot or they can
11385s	leave
11386s	the bands as they are and let them bring
11388s	the bag on double tempestly issue again
11390s	and just assume that they'll be able to
11392s	counter
11393s	um what options can bring
11396s	yeah I'm seeing that the bands are
11397s	starting to Trickle and now so we'll get
11398s	them up for you as soon as possible
11401s	um but you have to remember as well that
11403s	the the pressure for these teams in
11404s	these best of three scenarios is immense
11406s	normally when you have a match you get
11409s	you start the process of being in a
11411s	match uh about 45 minutes or an era
11413s	before when the referees convo you and
11416s	start asking for bans between the two
11418s	two teams the bands are exchanged and
11420s	then you have plenty of time to talk to
11422s	the team make sure everyone's got the
11423s	right fits double check ammo etc etc and
11426s	you've got a good amount of time for
11428s	that today we've seen the turnaround for
11430s	some of these matches start to drop you
11433s	know uh we found blog for example played
11434s	at 16 14 and 1720 so they finished one
11437s	match and only had 30 minutes until
11438s	their next one so that's a bit of
11441s	pressure less time to consider the bands
11442s	less times to consider your comp now we
11446s	have teams that have just finished a
11447s	match and then immediately have to go
11448s	into a Banning phase again in order to
11452s	determine what they're going to do for
11453s	the next match so they have to learn
11455s	from what's just happened
11456s	and then plan out their next one while
11458s	also considering
11460s	um the uh the conquest band bands are
11463s	ready let's take a look at the bands for
11464s	laser Hawks versus Odin's call so Odin's
11467s	called this time Banning out the bar
11468s	guest and the slept near
11471s	um and lizard spanning The Shack and the
11472s	curse so they're looking at that the
11474s	shack comp that's been brought before
11476s	they're allowing
11478s	um odans to bring essentially this Fleet
11480s	Tempest balgar and comp again none of
11482s	their bands
11483s	um Target that whatsoever it could
11485s	Odin's could bring the exact same thing
11487s	right now laser Hawks clearly feel that
11490s	if that's the case they are in a
11491s	position uh to beat it once again Misty
11494s	what do you make of this
11496s	well it makes sense on the Odin's side
11498s	to ban the bar guest and slept near as I
11500s	mentioned before the slept near was
11502s	still open so it's something that they
11504s	could have brought um in this match as I
11506s	believe they brought The Nighthawks in
11507s	the previous match
11508s	um the bar guest was also one of the I
11510s	guess Lynch pin ships for the other two
11513s	comps of laser Hawks that they've
11514s	brought so far with the bar guest kite
11516s	whether that's the double bar guest or
11517s	the single bar guest
11519s	um so it makes sense from the Odin's
11521s	side to see these bands coming out with
11523s	the Le Shack I mean that's a pretty
11525s	standard ban and it's one of Odin's
11526s	comps again that removes the double the
11529s	shot control comp from Odin's call it's
11531s	interesting to see the car span coming
11533s	out though in this case as typically
11536s	they pair the curse with the double the
11539s	shack I don't think we've seen Odin's
11540s	run the curse outside of that double
11543s	check comp so perhaps just really don't
11545s	want to see that comp come out
11547s	uh Bart you think this uh exudes
11550s	Confidence from laser Hawks here saying
11552s	hey bring that same thing again and
11553s	we'll dunk you again
11555s	oh yeah I think uh it's maybe a little
11558s	mind games I mean you're saying like we
11560s	don't care yeah we know we almost lost
11562s	last match but you know we have your
11564s	number like laser Hawks is saying I
11566s	don't know if this is this is actually
11568s	true or not they're saying that they're
11570s	100 confidence in beating exactly what
11572s	they just went up against uh what they
11574s	don't want to fight is like what Misty
11576s	said are apparently curses in the Shacks
11578s	which you know curses are very good I
11580s	mean that kind of it's it's interesting
11583s	um I
11585s	sort of feeling like
11587s	laser Hawks is still probably going to
11589s	bring some kind of kiting setup uh I
11591s	don't think they really need the Bargas
11592s	for it either I think they they might
11594s	have an idea here and if that's the case
11596s	and Odin's does bring the same thing
11598s	they just brought I don't know how well
11600s	that will fare versus a kiting setup I
11602s	mean we've seen a balgor and utterly
11604s	fail to tackle anything versus the laser
11607s	Hawks kite setup whether or not that was
11609s	a piloting issue or the ship issue
11610s	though maybe we'll be finding out in the
11612s	near future here
11614s	yeah and that near future is rapidly
11616s	approaching
11617s	um a lot of you people out there in
11619s	twitch land dropping your Twitch Channel
11621s	points on this match and it is 49 to 51
11625s	so you guys are also struggling to
11628s	decide uh who the favorites are here
11630s	just as much as we are because I mean
11633s	this is this is so close so I'm I'm I
11635s	hope this goes to is there 50 50 exactly
11637s	I'm hoping this goes to the full third
11639s	uh so we'll see is laser Hawks
11641s	confidence in their own comps uh
11644s	Justified or Odin's call going to be
11647s	able to take one off of laser Hawks here
11649s	and push this one to the best of three
11652s	well it is time to find out as we go to
11654s	the arena for potentially the last time
11656s	with the Basilisk and moderator
11665s	hello I am moderator joined by the
11667s	Basilisk for round two of a potential
11670s	best out of three we see that Odin's
11672s	call has decided to bring essentially
11675s	exactly the same setup they had last
11677s	time uh but with
11679s	um
11680s	well a little slightly different setup
11683s	in their Logistics and meanwhile laser
11686s	Hawks has chosen to bring an Amar Victor
11689s	top end with uh not much in the support
11692s	um and hauler that's list
11695s	yeah I think
11697s	from memory odins have changed the
11699s	Thalia to the deacons the Thalia as you
11701s	said maybe they felt like the Thalia was
11702s	actually tanking better with its sick
11703s	bonus and then they've got a visual
11705s	Fleet in the issue there for extra webs
11707s	at the end there but at the moment
11708s	um laser Hawks are just immediately
11709s	blasting up Martin in the celestis these
11711s	armor battleships that laser Hawks have
11713s	brought are actually going to be uh
11714s	quite effective at range so in this
11716s	scenario they are going to want to clear
11718s	those damps ASAP and and you know stop
11720s	stop those dams from landing and
11722s	limiting their targeting range meanwhile
11723s	the badger I'm assuming as Jin Tam was
11725s	pointing out I think earlier today or
11726s	maybe yesterday the badger just brings a
11729s	load of mid slots and just is an e-war
11730s	boat for two points but on the other
11732s	hand you know the downside of that ship
11734s	is there's not really much hope of
11736s	keeping it alive you can't really fit a
11737s	particularly solid tank Badger so I'm
11739s	certain that it is going to go down in
11740s	short short order here
11743s	yeah that uh Badger however as we say
11746s	that is starting to stabilize just a bit
11748s	and we're swapping a little bit of
11750s	damage over to
11751s	um the vexer I mean that makes sense so
11754s	um we see kind of a little bit of a
11756s	split in kind of the core concept of
11759s	what laser hawks's top battleships are
11761s	doing so the apoc Navy and the apoc have
11764s	a bonus to Optimal they don't really
11766s	have any sort of um tracking as well
11768s	they don't really have any damage
11770s	bonuses the abaddin however is just a
11772s	brick that does not shoot very far uh
11775s	but if you're in close it's going to
11776s	pound into you the Armageddon is just
11779s	again a big new boat and
11781s	um so far it is currently engaged in a
11783s	new war with the balcorn the balgorn
11785s	does more overall newting pressure but
11788s	it doesn't have the long range and if
11790s	I'm a balgorn I don't like being in that
11792s	position of getting neuted and not
11794s	trading however speaking of things not
11795s	trading that pontifex is going
11796s	dangerously low into armor yeah and if
11798s	they lose links that's going to be
11799s	really really dangerous and that is a
11801s	topic of of this match that I think we
11803s	haven't really touched on yet is going
11804s	to be the new war that's going on here
11805s	between the Battleground and the
11807s	Armageddon here because obviously these
11809s	Four Mile battleships are going to be
11810s	very very cat hungry the balgon
11812s	obviously a Newton ship the Armageddon
11813s	have a Newton ship and the Tempest
11814s	fleet's not cap Reliant at all so if
11816s	Odin's win the cap War they can just
11818s	keep pumping DPS they don't need to
11819s	worry too much they've got those also
11820s	cannons they got four heavy neutral and
11822s	Tempest fleets they've got four heavy
11823s	newts on the bow gone they can just keep
11824s	them all dry and tank forever but the
11826s	laser Hawk side it's imperative for them
11829s	that they win the cat War because
11830s	otherwise their guns are all going to
11831s	turn off and from that point they're
11832s	just done so the sort of new war here
11835s	between the balgo and the apoc is gonna
11837s	the the Armageddon sorry is going to be
11838s	absolutely critical to how this match
11840s	turns out and the pontifex does start
11841s	holding but they switch back onto this
11842s	list skin and at the same time Odin
11844s	switched back onto the badger again I
11846s	think they switched off him at the start
11847s	maybe they saw that actually he's not
11848s	he's not tracking disrupting he's not
11850s	damping he's not an e-wall Badger per se
11852s	he's more sort of I think buffing the
11854s	battleships maybe a receiver maybe a
11855s	tracking computer for each of them but
11857s	this Badger does look like he's going to
11858s	go down
11859s	unless I cast a curse him again and he
11861s	picks back up again
11863s	yeah I mean a badger he's got six mid
11865s	slots tough or low slots um down into a
11868s	sliver structure and they pop so
11871s	um that will be any potential
11873s	um support that they might have had no
11875s	longer there now uh swapping onto the
11877s	Republic Fleet Fire tail uh makes a lot
11880s	of sense it's you know very low pointed
11882s	but not exactly the strongest in terms
11884s	of resist but already giving pre-reps
11886s	from lethalia
11889s	yeah I'm noticing also that the odins
11891s	called battleships are just they're slow
11893s	boating in they're not making a Fast
11895s	concerted rush they are actually I
11896s	believe turning around now sort of move
11898s	away a little bit but I'm not sure this
11900s	sort of ranges where they particularly
11901s	want to be I mean
11903s	the the Marvel battleships on the other
11904s	side are gonna have
11906s	presumably better optimal better better
11908s	range projection from these lasers and
11910s	also the the new Range bonus on the
11912s	gettin is going to make him more
11913s	effective if the ball gone isn't
11915s	arranged to Newton back and it doesn't
11916s	look like he is so from this sort of
11918s	angle at the moment it looks like based
11920s	on the positioning that
11921s	um I would imagine laser Hawks are sort
11923s	of winning this new or the time being
11924s	and as I say that now Odin's are turning
11927s	around and Laser Hawks battleships are
11928s	actually pushing in towards them here
11930s	yeah if we see newts um going on to the
11933s	Fire tail that looks like it's from the
11935s	balgorn kind of an interesting call uh
11938s	right now
11939s	um we see that there are Republic Fleet
11941s	Berserkers that will be from the
11942s	Armageddon that are getting on top of
11944s	the pontifex however this apocalypse is
11946s	now on top of the battleborn
11948s	um at basically Zero The Tempest to
11950s	Fleet issues are closing range trying to
11952s	um go for him I think we're gonna see a
11954s	snap call and it looks like
11956s	um now the Armageddon is getting in
11958s	close yeah two sides are basically
11959s	merging we're gonna see an all-out brawl
11961s	in the next few seconds
11962s	um yes both these teams have decided
11964s	they want to opt into this they both
11965s	feel like they've got the upper hand
11966s	here in this scenario
11967s	um and to be honest with you I don't
11969s	know who's got the upper hand
11970s	um but yeah I mean it's going to come
11972s	down to how I mean the battle gun he
11974s	needs to think about where he's going to
11975s	use his nude so you can use them on the
11976s	Armageddon to win the new or and stop
11978s	the Armageddon Newton hymn but of course
11979s	then he's not Newton the primary and the
11981s	primary is going to keep his resists up
11982s	they do lose the resist from the
11984s	pontifex there but this apoc of zalia is
11986s	going into low armor now I'm not sure if
11987s	he's going to hold her
11990s	yeah I'm losing a pontifex is going to
11991s	hurt the longer this match goes but I
11993s	think I'm willing to trade it for a
11994s	single apocalypse right now uh no real
11997s	damage going on to any of the
11999s	battleships from um Odin uh looks like
12002s	um laser Hawks is choosing to go for the
12004s	low side
12005s	um trying to pick up the celestis now
12008s	um I'm really not sure how much the disc
12009s	list is actually doing though given that
12011s	all sides are pretty close in at this
12013s	point of the match
12015s	yeah at the start we said you know maybe
12017s	the Celesta stamps are maybe a little
12018s	bit sort of um debilitating for the
12020s	battleships maybe they didn't have any
12021s	effect at all maybe there was receivers
12023s	on the badger but at this point when
12024s	they've got all these battleships sort
12025s	of bunched up on top of each other
12026s	within you know 20 30 kilometers the
12028s	damson celestis it feels like they're
12030s	killing it just because it's sort of an
12031s	easy kill not because it's their path to
12033s	Victory here so
12034s	in that situation maybe they sort of
12036s	think you know they've tried the Mala
12038s	they can't break the Mala they're not
12039s	gonna they don't want to try and kill
12040s	the Tempest fleets they're going to be
12041s	tanky they can't kill the bowel gone
12042s	they found out last match he's got
12043s	really nice resists he's gonna tank so
12045s	maybe it's sort of desperation they kill
12047s	the celestes but now they're sort of
12048s	stuck thinking well we've got all of
12049s	these Targets in range you know we can
12051s	shoot anything but none of them are
12052s	looking particularly appealing and on
12054s	the on the other side meanwhile Odin's
12055s	are starting to plow through the second
12057s	Battleship now the apoc Navy of Artemis
12058s	is going to go down here into low armor
12060s	they have switched onto the failure of
12062s	toast brought but I imagine he's going
12063s	to hold if ERD can get the Reps on just
12065s	in time he goes down to 30 armor 20
12066s	armor into 80 structure this Thalia I
12069s	think is going to go down he does go
12070s	down but they are going to trade it for
12071s	this that is that is definitely a
12074s	misplay from mythology of ode or a
12075s	little bit earlier they were out of rep
12077s	range of that celestis
12079s	um and now the Thalia uh his partner
12081s	goes down but at the same time the e-pot
12083s	goes down and you know even with a
12085s	little bit of misplaying from the
12086s	Follies I still have to pretty heavily
12088s	favor
12089s	um Odin's call at this point just
12091s	because
12092s	um it's basically all a more damage um
12094s	left and I mean those reactive hardeners
12097s	are eventually going to shift they gave
12099s	up on the Mueller because they couldn't
12101s	even break through it because it had
12102s	already shifted to em therm so they're
12104s	going to go after this polio who no
12105s	longer has a repbody all the abandoned
12107s	is giving plum
12108s	and with only these two battleships left
12110s	now the new pressure is surely going to
12111s	be overwhelming it's just again just the
12113s	abaddin versus the bow going and the
12114s	four heaving you from the from the
12115s	Tempest fleets combined those guns are
12117s	going to be shutting off pretty shortly
12118s	and obviously that's the only DPS that
12119s	laser Hawks have got here so this does
12121s	look at this stage I'm going to say I'm
12124s	going to say that it's going to go to
12124s	one and one and then hopefully laser
12126s	Hawks will somehow miraculously bring it
12127s	back and we'll get another nail biting
12129s	finish but from this position I feel
12130s	like it's solidly in the control of
12132s	Odin's here and I I wonder a little bit
12134s	why laser Hawks didn't sort of I mean
12136s	they have
12137s	more Firepower I think from from the
12140s	from the range they started at from the
12142s	positions in the first couple minutes of
12143s	the match they had those laser boats uh
12146s	you know with more optimal than these
12147s	than these Tempest fleets they had the
12149s	new bonus from the Armageddon I think
12150s	they were winning the new war when they
12152s	were at distance and I'm sort of
12153s	surprised a little bit that they didn't
12154s	try and pump through one of the
12155s	battleships and win the DPS War because
12157s	as soon as it devolved into a brawl I
12158s	felt like Odin's were gonna win the new
12160s	war with the two Tempest fleets they
12161s	were going to win the DPS War
12163s	um with the just massive HP of the
12165s	Tempest fleets and the Battleground and
12167s	as soon as you start losing battleships
12169s	on the laser Hawk side you lose all
12170s	potential to kill anything and as we
12172s	said in the last match killing things is
12173s	a pretty integral part of winning
12174s	matches
12175s	yeah unfortunately
12178s	um I feel like the critical moment in
12179s	this match was when the balgorn uh was
12182s	able to dictate range with
12184s	um his webs but also getting new
12185s	pressure on top of the Armageddon
12188s	um you do really win that Newt War if
12190s	you're about going uh trading with an
12191s	Armageddon and again you're trying to
12193s	use the optimal bonus on the Armageddon
12195s	to never be in that situation because
12197s	you don't have any other bonuses it's
12199s	just or optimal if the Battleground
12200s	closes on top of you you've completely
12202s	given up the advantage uh in the example
12205s	there I have to feel though like part of
12208s	the reason that laser Hawks chose to go
12210s	for the support horn off the top end is
12212s	I'm sure they've ran against
12214s	um The Tempest Fleet issue in battleborn
12216s	set then they probably are aware that
12218s	they have difficulty breaking
12221s	um any of these Tempest Fleet issues or
12223s	battleborn once we swap to full reactive
12225s	just like we saw on the last match where
12227s	a pair of nighthawks um and the kinetic
12229s	damage had trouble breaking through the
12230s	battleborn of yoken
12232s	yeah of course I am not great against
12234s	armor anyway on a good day
12237s	um and with these reactives which are
12239s	almost certainly fit for tempest Fleet
12240s	in balgorn they have a very difficult
12242s	time with four laser bows and that's the
12243s	difficult part of you know building
12245s	these comps around the conquest bands as
12247s	we can see on the left-hand side they've
12248s	got all these bands to deal with and
12249s	they said okay well we're just going to
12250s	bring a full heavy Mr comp but then if
12252s	you come up into an armor comp on the
12254s	other side and Odin's as they did they
12256s	just ran it back they said okay we're
12257s	going to bring basically the same thing
12258s	again you can find yourself in a tricky
12260s	position where it's actually very
12261s	difficult to clear any of the DPS and
12263s	sort of make Headway in the match
12266s	so I don't want to necessarily call
12268s	Odin's a a one trick right but we've
12270s	seen essentially really like two to
12272s	three comps out of them we've seen
12273s	Odin's called bring a similar setup
12276s	um in the low end but on the top end
12278s	they'll bring essentially two Le shacks
12280s	and then uh you know maybe a command
12284s	ship as well or battle producer
12287s	um for the kind of their third main core
12288s	DPS ship uh We've also seen Min marktar
12291s	rush out of them I'm kind of wondering
12293s	now that your armor comps are basically
12297s	largely banned out and part of the
12299s	reason you might be in double Valley is
12300s	right in this match is you say okay if
12302s	we win I want to make sure in round
12304s	three I can bring double peak in uh but
12306s	that's gonna be it for us as we send it
12307s	back to the desk as Odin's call takes it
12309s	over laser Hawks
12311s	um in this second match
12314s	who have seen war will never stop seeing
12318s	it in the Silence of the night we will
12321s	always hear the screams so this is our
12324s	story wolves amongst strangers
12329s	did you know that anything can happen
12331s	and Ultra fleets
12334s	are you still shaving sir Jesus why you
12338s	must have some big balls yeah
12339s	[Laughter]
12341s	yeah literally anything
12366s	thank you
12375s	Odin's call they're pushing it to the
12377s	final match in this best of three series
12379s	is now one all laser Hawk for one Odin's
12383s	called one mystical might take me
12385s	through what happened there for the
12387s	laser Hawks team
12389s	uh well what what to begin laser Hawks
12394s	lost their Badger at the beginning I
12395s	believe
12396s	um and I was convinced that Odin's were
12398s	just going to spend the rest of their
12399s	match kiting
12401s	um controlling with the balcon webs and
12403s	newts to prevent the laser Hawks team
12404s	from getting into range
12406s	um instead both teams decided that now
12407s	was the optimal time to butt heads now
12409s	that the the badger was dead uh you know
12412s	the the DPS powerhouse on the laser
12415s	Hawks team and um yeah I have no idea
12418s	what laser Hawks decided to do they had
12419s	four battleships against three
12422s	um they decided to
12424s	kill the celestis
12426s	I know four is bigger than three
12429s	um they decided to kill these celestis
12431s	despite the fact that the battleships
12432s	were all on top of each other so lock
12435s	range and block time wasn't really an
12436s	issue
12438s	um yeah I don't know I feel like laser
12440s	Hawks could have perhaps won that if
12442s	they decided to all in the two Tempest
12444s	Fleet issues with the damage with the
12446s	battleships that they had I think
12448s	deciding to shoot the celestis and then
12450s	go through the lower end of the audience
12452s	team and that they effectively threw
12454s	away their chance at potentially winning
12456s	that match up
12458s	but they were beginning from a position
12459s	where they were perhaps uh a man down
12462s	and in a weaker position than they would
12464s	have liked and what's the Odin's team I
12465s	think
12467s	so Bart a lot of questions during that
12469s	match and even now uh in twitch chat why
12472s	bring a badger a tech one industrial
12475s	ship to an alliance tournament match
12479s	so the uh the badger is
12482s	a very very very powerful extremely
12486s	dangerous uh ship
12489s	in regards to literally nothing it's a
12492s	so basically they've got six mid slots
12494s	on a badger right uh it is the cheapest
12497s	ship in the game
12498s	that has six mid slots that you can fit
12502s	a okay like a very very okay not a good
12505s	tank but like enough that it's not going
12507s	to just get like sold by a swivel
12508s	somewhere
12510s	um while also having the ability to fill
12512s	your mid slots with some kind of either
12514s	e-war or what this specific one was
12517s	doing were like 95 sure uh remote
12520s	assistance modules so what we're pretty
12523s	sure was going on we'd have to actually
12524s	see the the fit of it is that the badger
12527s	was filled with remote sensor boosters
12529s	and remote tracking enhancers
12531s	um these modules are actually
12534s	significantly better than the modules
12536s	you would fit on your own ship so remote
12537s	tracking enhancer can like drastically
12540s	increase your optimal range or your
12541s	tracking speed remote sensor boosters
12542s	can drastically increase your lock range
12544s	which is really good when we're in a
12546s	meta where you know block range is
12547s	something everyone wants to enjoy and
12549s	celestis is get rid of that really
12551s	easily uh so I think the badger was
12553s	there pretty much to counter the
12554s	celestises and possibly uh curses
12557s	pilgrims crucifier Sentinels cetera et
12559s	cetera et cetera
12561s	I don't know sorry that's a good idea
12564s	but that's okay it did its job
12568s	well that's all you can ask for it to do
12570s	so to pluck a little Badger flown by
12573s	Marie beldrift there to great effect uh
12577s	not great enough of course to allow
12578s	these dogs to take a two nil Victory and
12581s	move on to the last tournament but great
12582s	enough that they've at least made it to
12584s	the the finals here
12586s	um mystical might one of the things we
12587s	heard moderate to talk about right at
12589s	the end there was an interesting little
12591s	tidbit in the first match Odin's call
12593s	brought that comp but they brought
12595s	Italia and a deacon whereas in the
12597s	second comp they brought to talia's now
12600s	with the point inflation bringing to
12602s	Italia's costs 12 points versus a deacon
12605s	Italia costing 10 points
12608s	why surely that's less Point efficient
12612s	so now that we're into a best of three
12615s	and we have the conquest bands in play
12617s	if they were to continue bringing the
12619s	Thalia Deacon it effectively removes all
12622s	armor Logistics frigates
12624s	um from their uh selection pool right
12627s	um so if they'd won the first match they
12629s	would not have been able to bring either
12630s	Thalia or Deacon in the second match
12632s	thankfully they won I guess for them
12635s	because it means that they can now
12636s	choose to bring two of the same
12638s	Logistics frigate in this case thaliers
12642s	um which now allows them to bring the
12644s	deacons in the third match if they
12646s	wanted to
12647s	um so it's about ensuring that they're
12648s	not limiting their own choices
12651s	in the first match perhaps they wanted
12653s	to bring the strongest form of the setup
12654s	that they had which involved the Deacon
12656s	and the Thalia so making the best use of
12658s	their points because they knew that that
12661s	first match was going to be fairly
12662s	difficult they were going up against the
12664s	best comp that laser Hawks had to field
12666s	in the second match they can be fairly
12668s	confident that the laser Hawks comp is
12670s	banned out because they won that match
12672s	so due to Conquest bands they're not
12674s	able to feel those same ships again
12676s	which means that they can perhaps weaken
12678s	their own setup a little bit
12680s	I mean it's two points it's not crazy
12682s	difference but you know some people
12684s	think that they can perhaps be better
12686s	invested elsewhere but it ensures that
12688s	they won't be in a difficult position
12690s	for their third match whether they
12692s	actually decide to bring deacons in
12693s	their third match remains to be seen it
12696s	depends I guess on the bands that we see
12697s	coming in over the next uh five to ten
12700s	minutes
12702s	yeah we will keep you all posted with
12704s	those bands as soon as they come in
12707s	um we're just getting confirmation on
12709s	the exact list of uh ships banned out
12712s	for the final match in terms of Conquest
12714s	bands what I can tell you is laser
12716s	hawked by virtue of losing and having to
12719s	unbanned all of their Conquest bands
12721s	again so they can bring once more
12722s	Nighthawk Claymore Navy Drake Fleet
12725s	Scythe scalpel hyena burst so the only
12728s	ships they cannot bring in the third and
12729s	final match will be
12732s	um the map the ships that are banned in
12734s	the actual Banning phase of this
12737s	particular round
12738s	now um one of the things
12741s	um that we sometimes see is the the
12743s	Talia Deacon which we just spoke about
12745s	but a lot of people tend to favor double
12748s	Deacon over double Talia like I think
12750s	maybe it's one of the first times we've
12751s	seen double Talia
12752s	um usually when people are bringing the
12754s	double Logistics armor fragrance it is
12756s	almost exclusively the Deacon uh why why
12759s	the deacons over the Talia usually
12763s	uh that's a really good question I have
12766s	a I'm not a 100 on this I'm like 85 to
12770s	90. uh there's a couple a couple major
12773s	reasons is there's this profile of a
12775s	deacon is way better like the Amar Tech
12777s	2 armored resist profile is just
12780s	traditional good at everything like it's
12783s	really easy to make sure it doesn't have
12784s	any uh glaring holes on it also a lot
12786s	easier to fit a tenement Deacon than a
12789s	tenement Thalia you totally can I mean
12791s	you can fit any ship any way you want to
12793s	doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna be
12795s	good or not I mean we've seen you know
12796s	Auto cans on typing Fleet issues today
12797s	so there's a lot of a lot of that going
12801s	around
12802s	um but also they have a little bit I
12805s	think they have a little bit less
12806s	signature radius so generally they're
12808s	they're a bit tankier uh they can go
12809s	faster
12811s	if you're going tenement fit which isn't
12813s	I think almost all the ones we've seen
12815s	this weekend have actually been tenement
12816s	fit it's a pretty standard uh fit and
12819s	they just have better resist profile
12821s	um that being said values are pretty
12822s	good too and mystical probably has a
12824s	better Insight on that or something that
12826s	I missed here I was just going to add
12828s	that I think the I don't know if you
12829s	mentioned it but the Thalia gets I think
12831s	an extra Med slot over the deacon so you
12835s	have the added benefit of being able to
12836s	fit a sensor booster if you'd like to
12839s	which ensures that if they do have damps
12841s	which we are seeing a bit more
12842s	frequently now that these scripts are
12844s	allowed in the tournament you're able to
12846s	lock a little bit further than the
12847s	perhaps two or three kilometers that you
12849s	would usually get if a selesters decides
12851s	to ruin your day so it's another reason
12853s	why perhaps we're seeing Nathalia coming
12855s	out as well as the use of ewar as well
12858s	like ECM if you have a Thalia Thalia
12862s	the chances of seeing multiple gallante
12864s	jams is perhaps lower than seeing
12865s	multiple Amar jams simply because of
12867s	more ships are being used quite a bit
12870s	more so again that's another reason why
12872s	perhaps you're seeing double of the same
12874s	ship just reducing your ability to be
12876s	e-world out essentially
12879s	yeah speaking of
12882s	um being just out of be able to use
12884s	ships
12885s	um The Conquest bands for the final
12886s	match are as follows so the laser Hawks
12890s	ones reset but the audience call team
12893s	cannot bring the balgar and the fleet
12894s	tempers the pontifex the Talia the
12897s	celestas the vexer the molar and the
12900s	vigil Fleet issue they've also chosen to
12902s	ban their absolute Classics they refuse
12904s	to ban anything else the Loki and the
12906s	slept near meanwhile laser Hawks
12908s	interesting ban here they've banned The
12910s	Shack which is kind of standard but they
12911s	have targeted that Deacon they have said
12914s	hey Odin's call we see you like that
12915s	comp well get wrecked boils you ain't
12918s	bringing it because you've banned
12919s	yourself out of the tire we're banging
12921s	yourself out of the deacon uh bar what
12924s	do you think of that band there from
12925s	from laser Hawks big brain or small
12927s	brain
12929s	uh I would say that there are definitely
12932s	a large amount of ridges but there may
12934s	actually be a wormhole in that brain
12936s	um their laser Hawks is basically going
12938s	into this assuming
12940s	that Odin's call has not prepared in any
12944s	way shape or form to fly anything
12946s	without Logistics frigates and that I
12948s	think is not
12950s	a good way to look at this uh
12953s	just because
12955s	two Logistics frigates of the same type
12957s	which we've seen is 12 points which is
12961s	not that much less than a Tech 2
12962s	Logistics Cruiser and honestly not
12964s	really you can also use tech one
12966s	Logistics Cruisers like a auger is
12968s	actually a very good ship as long as you
12971s	can keep from getting tackled you know
12972s	it does turn into piloting which we've
12974s	seen some questionable piloting all
12975s	throughout the day here
12977s	um but yeah I I honestly think the
12979s	Deacon might be a wasted ban like they
12981s	were they're making the assumption that
12983s	Odin's call only has
12985s	two comps which hopefully since Odin's
12988s	call is a relatively veteran team they
12990s	got I believe the top eight or top six
12993s	last year in the airlines tournament
12995s	they've probably done some degree of
12997s	preparing for a situation like this
12998s	where there is Conquest bands in the
13001s	play so this this might be that a thing
13004s	we talked about I think before the first
13005s	match where
13006s	maybe Owens is about to surprise us and
13009s	bring something that laser Hawks is
13010s	going to have that oh we didn't
13012s	prepare for this moment or they're gonna
13014s	feed tonight Minotaur rush we don't know
13016s	that's those are the two options I'm
13017s	predicting uh either feeding to Minotaur
13019s	rush or surprising everybody
13023s	yeah mystical you're looking awfully
13025s	pensive there when we came back from
13027s	those bands uh what what do you think
13029s	are are they wrinkly brained or is this
13032s	perhaps as Bart says a wasted ban
13037s	I was just looking through the Odin's
13039s	core setups that they've shown so far
13041s	looking at the Double The Shack control
13043s	comp that they brought which was the
13045s	double Shack in the curse
13047s	um I think five of the ships that they
13049s	would bring in a typical setup or
13052s	actually just banjo the conquest walls
13054s	anyway so Mauler x uh Thalia celestis
13057s	and pontifex are all ships that they
13059s	can't field but are ships that are
13061s	perhaps essential for their Le chat
13063s	control setup so I think they're being
13065s	pushed more towards Fielding their
13067s	barges kite that they flew before which
13070s	may be slightly weaker to a rush setup
13073s	that's able to get on top of them
13074s	quickly since the safe lit issues are
13077s	now open to pick on the laser Hawk side
13081s	um it gives them the ability to zip
13084s	across the grid like four and a half
13085s	kilometers a second and snag those um
13088s	our guests and and navy battle Cruisers
13092s	um I think it would be more interesting
13093s	to see Odin's bring a mirror of a rush
13097s	we haven't actually seen Odin's bring
13099s	Rush much at all in this feeders
13103s	tournament they've favored armor control
13105s	quite a bit with our guests heavy
13108s	missile launcher kite being the only
13109s	real attempt at is Shield comp anyway
13112s	as far as I can see from this little
13113s	document that we have here so yeah I
13116s	think mirroring The Shield setup and
13118s	trying to out brawl laser Hawks could be
13121s	a fairly interesting match
13123s	here we saw Odin's field that um that
13126s	Katie comp earlier on against because of
13128s	Pizza Time diplomacy and uh they just
13130s	flew away from them for um basically 10
13134s	minutes it was 10 minutes of running
13135s	around in a circle
13136s	with uh almost comical music playing in
13139s	the background if laser Hawks chooses to
13141s	bring a really fast Rush with those uh
13145s	site free issues as you mentioned those
13148s	are Speedy boys it's gonna be really
13150s	difficult to to kite away and to screen
13152s	however if odins are able to screen them
13156s	off effectively bar uh you know what
13159s	happens then like is it kind of game
13161s	over for Liz Hox is it going to be eggs
13163s	in one basket
13165s	I I don't think so
13168s	um just because of how well like how
13170s	practiced laser Hawk seems with that
13173s	specific setup that they've done and
13174s	also uh you know one of the issues with
13177s	screening a Nighthawk or you know some
13180s	kind of Nighthawk Minotaur Rush is that
13182s	your screening ship is going to die like
13184s	it's it's almost impossible to keep them
13186s	alive through that so
13188s	um it kind of turns into like a very
13190s	very situation where it's like okay well
13192s	we screened you and we slowed you down
13194s	but you lose your screening ship like
13195s	you're not gonna keep it alive and then
13197s	they get close to you and you screen
13198s	them and they get close to you and they
13200s	screen them so it's it's going to be
13202s	really interesting um the other thing I
13204s	think that we could see here
13206s	as well which we haven't seen from
13208s	either of these teams yet is is like a
13210s	drone setup uh which could be really
13212s	interesting I think that that has some
13215s	very high potential to counter play uh a
13218s	rush uh and I believe that Odin's is a
13221s	team that's got a pedigree enough that
13222s	they might be able to pull that out of
13223s	their out of their hat but
13225s	yeah I don't know it's
13227s	kind of you know we'll see I mean
13229s	definitely getting excited but we still
13231s	gotta wait a couple minutes so
13233s	yeah there's a lot of things still open
13235s	here uh in this final match I mean with
13238s	only essentially one round of Conquest
13240s	bands uh for each team the depth they
13243s	have to reach into their bag of comps
13245s	isn't that deep uh you might find in a
13248s	grand final best of five uh you know you
13251s	can easily lose two matches or win two
13253s	matches in a row and if you win two
13255s	matches in a row then you've got a huge
13257s	amount of ships potentially banned out
13259s	an alliance tournament you can also have
13260s	up to nine bands uh coming in from the
13263s	regular bands as well uh so you could
13265s	conceivably go into your third match
13267s	with 29 ships banned which is just a
13271s	ginormous uh number compared to you know
13274s	three which is what you'd probably be
13276s	hoping for uh teams are in system so
13279s	we're only a few minutes away from uh
13281s	from our last match of the day and just
13285s	to remind you this is for the final spot
13286s	in Alliance tournament 18 uh the loser
13289s	here goes home like that's it they are
13291s	done until Alliance tournament 19.
13293s	that's it there's no chance for them to
13295s	go through and win a bunch of freckies
13298s	and mimiers there's no chance for them
13300s	to go through and even win skins for
13302s	winning matches in Alliance tournament
13303s	18. that is it it is literally pack up
13306s	your ships go home and uh sit on the
13309s	sideline and watch for next year uh Bart
13313s	what's your highlights being for these
13314s	mimitar feeder trials so far
13318s	uh the entire uh basically all the
13321s	matches of yesterday the specific like
13323s	that last six or so
13325s	where we found out who was going to make
13328s	it through the first round of people
13330s	that made it to the at versus who would
13332s	end up having to play today every single
13334s	one of those matches was really intense
13336s	everyone flew like their best
13339s	um they're all really exciting and it
13341s	was it was just really good like I don't
13343s	think a single team uh made it through
13346s	that didn't 100 deserve to make it
13348s	through just based off their piloting
13350s	their Theory crafting their setups alone
13352s	uh which is that's what you want to see
13353s	right sometimes you get people saying oh
13356s	so-and-so had a free ride blah blah blah
13358s	well I don't think anybody had a free
13359s	ride yesterday
13361s	um whoever wins this one absolutely did
13364s	not have a free ride like imagine having
13366s	to play basically the equivalent of the
13367s	alliance tournament semi-finals just to
13369s	get a shot to play in The Alliance
13371s	tournament like this is this is really
13373s	brutal so whichever team wins this is
13375s	going to be very very well prepared for
13377s	uh November
13380s	yeah I'm just looking through uh the the
13382s	matches at the minute I believe just
13384s	this weekend alone uh this will be uh
13387s	the ninth match for laser Hawks uh and
13390s	Odin's call uh to get to this stage of
13392s	course they played last week as well uh
13395s	playing I think four matches or maybe
13397s	somewhere between two and four matches
13400s	so these teams have that's a lot of
13402s	matches like not many teams even in the
13404s	alliance tournament have that many
13405s	matches in a couple of years you know
13407s	many many teams by the way and and then
13410s	go on tour two and two and it takes a
13412s	long time to build up that experience
13414s	but these teams have been just
13415s	practicing and getting awesome
13417s	experience here uh so you know big thank
13420s	you from us to CCP for putting on this
13422s	format I'm a big fan of it and I think
13423s	it's been a great exhibition of of
13425s	talented Pilots but we are pretty much
13428s	ready to go to what I'm seeing on grid
13431s	should be a very exciting match uh and
13433s	this is going to determine the final
13435s	slot is it going to be Odin's call is it
13437s	going to be laser Hawks who will advance
13439s	in in match 65 the best of three final
13443s	is 1-1 let's go through and find out
13445s	with the Basilisk and moderator
13453s	welcome back to the arena and it it's
13455s	looking like we have sort of a pseudo
13457s	mirror here both these teams as the desk
13459s	was sort of maybe hoping for they've
13460s	both bought Shield comps they've both
13462s	put very very similar Shield comps with
13464s	a focus on rapid light missiles I
13465s	believe mainly more from the laser Hawk
13467s	side with the author of Salisbury Navy
13468s	rapid Heavies on the Bargas of course I
13470s	think these are heavy missile Claymores
13472s	again combined with an authorous of Our
13474s	Guest very similar sort of fair here
13476s	um but Odin's bringing two jackdaws so I
13478s	think they're gonna have
13479s	possible sort of damp superiority
13481s	assuming they are going to be fitted as
13483s	I would expect with with damp kite fits
13486s	yeah I can confirm that these Claymores
13488s	are in fact going to be heavy missile
13490s	fit uh basically everything else is
13492s	going to be lights or rapid lights from
13494s	uh the term models that we have on top
13496s	of the ships both teams electing to uh
13498s	come into the arena at 50 kilometers
13500s	it'll be interesting to see again
13503s	um are these going to be damps are they
13505s	going to be guidance disruptors tracking
13506s	disruptors
13508s	um because those mid slots are going to
13509s	be crucial if you can get uh guidance
13512s	disruption onto the bar gas or the
13514s	Claymore you're going to severely
13516s	mitigate the amount of you know incoming
13518s	damage the range one other interesting
13521s	aspect here is going to be the choice of
13523s	a scythe versus Scimitar what are your
13525s	thoughts on that here basa yeah I mean
13527s	Odin's field of deciphon there in the
13529s	when they filter that I believe this
13531s	basically this comp in their loss
13532s	against bright side of death
13534s	um yesterday I think it was
13536s	um and I was I was pretty critical of
13537s	the choice of Scythe
13539s	um I I don't know how this is going to
13541s	turn out to be honest these are two very
13542s	similar takes on the same company
13543s	scimitaries obviously far more powerful
13545s	than the Scythe but it may find itself
13547s	suffering from damps from the Jack door
13548s	so maybe indexing so heavily into tech2
13550s	lodgy in terms of points investment they
13553s	might not be able to leverage that extra
13554s	power of the Scimitar if it does find
13556s	itself in burdened by those damps from
13557s	the jackdaws but also those Jack doors
13559s	they need to consider dents on the
13560s	crucifier for example do they want to
13562s	stop guidance disruptors do they need to
13563s	you know maybe try and lock out range on
13565s	the vigil Fleet as the Scimitar does
13567s	start taking a chunky goes straight
13568s	through Shield he's gonna that's an ASB
13570s	fit but he goes straight straight
13571s	through armor they're just volleying
13573s	straight through him this Scimitar he's
13574s	definitely not worth the points
13575s	investment now he is dead
13577s	yeah unfortunately the bar guest from
13578s	laser Hawks are trying to return fire
13580s	into the Scythe but there have been
13581s	guidance disrupted and they came into
13583s	the arena essentially at 100 kilometers
13585s	from each other uh so the crucifier who
13587s	was going to have guidance disruption or
13589s	some uh tracking disruption on him is
13591s	already down into low armor the orthos
13593s	already down into low hole as well
13595s	Scythe uh continuing to
13597s	um survive psych has actually gotten out
13599s	of range from um the core of a bar guest
13603s	the hyena goes down trying to get rid of
13605s	Target painting in webs uh it's gonna be
13607s	absolutely bloody in the first initial
13609s	match the orthos though has made the
13610s	right call has immediately burned away
13612s	gotten the hell out of Dodge uh both
13614s	teams uh trying to tackle on each other
13617s	crucifier going down crucify goes down
13619s	the vigil Fleet takes chunks the sky
13621s	break it goes down but this is rapidly
13622s	swinging against laser Hawks here they
13624s	did get a kill there on the sky breaker
13625s	but they've already lost four of their
13627s	ships here the most critical being that
13629s	Scimitar of course they really haven't
13630s	got a chance a few keeping things up
13632s	they've got a significant I'd imagine a
13634s	fair chunk of ehp in those Bargains but
13635s	the bifrost just gets vollied this is
13637s	clinical piloting from Odin's here their
13639s	target calling is is impeccable
13641s	absolutely impeccable they are just
13642s	bullying ships off the field left right
13644s	and Center here the author of xalia is
13646s	the only one who survived that onslaught
13647s	of missiles but there's it's just these
13650s	two bar guests now
13651s	um and the authoris and Osprey Navy
13653s	they're going to be struggling here of
13654s	course damps I think we see on the fancy
13656s	UI there's guidance disruptors maybe
13657s	they're not damp Jack doors maybe
13658s	they're guidance disruptor jackdaws and
13660s	of course the rapid Heavies of the
13661s	Bargas then are going to be really
13662s	really struggling to hit the author of
13663s	The Scythe Jack door Etc
13665s	yeah we saw that from again the very
13667s	beginning beginning of the match
13669s	um our guests normally would be able to
13671s	hit out a hundred kilometers and that's
13673s	why we saw that initially the Scimitar
13675s	of lace walks went down in the first 30
13677s	seconds of the match but
13678s	um these were guidance disruption
13680s	jackdawks and I mean those you know 10
13683s	points between those two jackdaws have
13685s	been absolutely critical uh we see that
13687s	the Bargas of uh Carl and Adonis are
13690s	still being guidance disrupted now that
13692s	we're at 7 40 and both Clips have
13694s	reloaded for each team uh we could see
13696s	the attack bar uh for laser Hawk still
13698s	not there still not able to apply any
13700s	damage to the Bargas if Carl uh not
13702s	having any Logistics to wrap them I mean
13703s	he's gonna go down between uh the
13705s	continual damage of this Claymore and
13707s	yokon who will have just gotten off
13709s	reload
13710s	um Carl and Adonis are trying to go for
13712s	the Scythe they'll break the Scythe but
13713s	I mean man they're all going to kill the
13715s	site but it's not going to be enough
13715s	they're going to lose the boggiest here
13717s	and this is going to be the end of the
13718s	road for laser Hawks from this point I I
13720s	just don't see how they do it they've
13721s	got about each team has a bogus but
13723s	they're just so
13724s	you know so
13726s	cut down on what they've got left on the
13728s	field here and the rest of their comp
13728s	they've got an authors who's limping in
13730s	40 Hull they've got an osprey Navy and a
13732s	jackdaw there's just no way they win
13734s	based on what's left here I mean both
13735s	these teams they've put up an excellent
13737s	show throughout the day but
13738s	unfortunately of course only one of them
13740s	go to Alliance on tournament 18 and it's
13742s	looking at this point like Odin's call
13743s	will be advancing to the tournament
13745s	after an arduous difficult testing run
13748s	and Laser Hawks will unfortunately be
13750s	sitting at home and waiting for a chance
13752s	to participate next year but I have to
13753s	ask going all the way back to the
13756s	um the pre-feeders show when we sort of
13758s	rank them on the tier list I think we
13760s	asked the question you know why did
13762s	Odin's this is a story team that's that
13764s	gets far they won prize ships last year
13765s	why did they not buy in and you know was
13767s	all this stress really worth it
13770s	oh I mean absolutely not I mean imagine
13773s	that you know you get knocked out right
13776s	in from your main bracket you have to go
13778s	in through the you know the Second
13780s	Challenge bracket and you have a nail
13783s	biting you know best out of three where
13785s	essentially the reason you go on is
13787s	because you pick the right mid slots in
13789s	your jackdaws against laser Hawks um the
13791s	bar guest of Adonis is going down at the
13793s	hole he's going to drop shortly uh
13795s	Colonel carts Elite pixels and yokon are
13797s	continuing to apply damages if I see
13799s	those missiles go across the field even
13801s	the caracal on top of him at zero Adonis
13804s	drops and that's the last of the main
13805s	core ships except for the orthorus and
13808s	the Osprey Navy remaining
13810s	um you know hats off to Odin's call
13813s	um they definitely showed why they
13815s	deserve to be in this event
13816s	um you know they did well last year we
13818s	thought they were a little bit of a one
13819s	trick but they've gone through an
13821s	absolute hell uh grueling match to be
13824s	here so well well played
13827s	yeah of course props to props to all the
13829s	teams that took part but also special
13831s	mention to laser Hawks as well to come
13832s	all this way to fight so hard to get so
13835s	far one match away from entering the
13837s	alliance tournament and I believe the
13839s	most sort of you know the most arduous
13840s	and grueling feeders tournament we've
13841s	had so far but that's going to be it
13843s	from us Odin's call are going to take
13844s	this Victory 2-1 they come back from
13846s	behind to push laser Hawks out Advance
13849s	themselves into alliance tournament 18.
13851s	I've been the Basilisk he's been
13852s	moderator thank you so much for watching
13861s	[Music]
13869s	thank you
13872s	foreign
13874s	[Laughter]
13897s	[Music]
13911s	[Music]
13918s	[Music]
13930s	there you are and that is it laser Hawks
13933s	securing themselves 33rd Place in
13935s	Alliance tournament 18. meanwhile Odin's
13937s	call move forward into the main bracket
13940s	we will see them as the 32nd team
13942s	entering Alliance tournament 18 in just
13945s	around one month from now when the main
13948s	tournament takes place those teams are
13950s	going to be competing for freckies
13951s	mimiers and of course the pride uh of
13954s	their entire alliances uh everyone's
13956s	going to be looking at them to be like
13957s	hey winners some cool stuff
13960s	um I hope you guys have enjoyed watching
13962s	all these matches I know I certainly
13963s	have there's been some absolutely
13964s	fantastic ones over the last couple of
13966s	days and over the last two weekends and
13968s	I really cannot wait for Alliance
13969s	tournament 18 to start in a month time
13972s	but until then
13974s	um I need to say thank you to every
13976s	single person that's helped make this
13977s	possible uh GM Banker banquet Jim carbon
13980s	GM Kawaii actually GM Maverick GM
13983s	Star-Lord and our very own event Amy
13986s	mothimoff as the referees seems to be
13988s	convict and cease to be zealous for
13989s	doing all the hardware that they did to
13991s	make this happen uh disk read error and
13993s	brj for all the production and of course
13995s	the teams that Advance Odin's call
13997s	that's it and then everyone else who got
13999s	eliminated laser Hawks kitchen sinkhole
14001s	percussive Pizza Time diplomacy we form
14004s	blob the Ancients thank you very much
14006s	guys for competing you all did amazing
14007s	of course the casters that are here with
14009s	us uh we have Alexa card bringing across
14011s	the Basilisk blackbar pirate jintan
14014s	mystical might and moderator and of
14016s	course thank you to all of you guys out
14018s	there in twitchland watching and tuning
14020s	in uh you know wasting all your Twitch
14022s	points uh commenting and enjoying all
14024s	the matches uh again I hope you guys
14026s	enjoyed it I hope you'll tune in in a
14028s	month to see uh some more of these I've
14030s	been Ithaca Hawk uh I'll see you all in
14033s	November
14034s	foreign
14044s	[Music]

[2022] Alliance Tournament XVIII - Tribal Trials Day 4

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