[2019] Limit asset safety - Diminishing returns

I'd prefer no asset safety personally.

And limits on hangar capacity in upwell structures.

And no more tethering, only mooring for supercapitals.

And supercapitals not being able to dock in structures.

And limits on number of supercaps that can moor at a structure.

But that's just me...

We put some SP into a starter pack because we thought it'd help new players with the restriction of buying one per account.

We failed to restrict the starter pack to new accounts, and when this was pointed out by the community, we realized we'd screwed up and released a clarification to say that we'd be fixing this. A fix is in the works afaik.

Whether you like it or not, the games industry is changing and EVE needs to change with it. That's just the reality of things.

The intention isn't to break down the core pillars of what make EVE the game it is, but at the same time if we can ease the path for new players to get into the game and have fun, then we'll look at doing so - even at the risk of rustling the jimmies of some of our existing players along the way.

I'll be direct and say that this is of course my own opinion and not the opinion of CCP, but personally I'm getting tired of people freaking out every time we try something that might help with new player retention or give them an easier path to get into the game and stay.

There are of course some valid concerns, and my job is to listen to what people are talking about, but once I'm done listening, it's getting to the point where I just roll my eyes at a lot of the REEEEEE that happens when we talk about changes and the same groups of people start screeching about "pay to win" and "muh sandbox".

I'll hold my hands up and say I'm guilty of that myself - I try to do as much as I can to make sure that EVE stays true to its roots, but we've been super direct with our new player retention numbers, with our second logon numbers, our 30 day retention numbers too - we even showed these off at EVE North and a few other events to talk about the unique issues that EVE faces with retaining rookies.

If it comes down to a choice between EVE struggling through a lack of fresh blood, or pissing a few people off and seeing some noise on the internet because we've decided to do something different, then prepare your jimmies mate, because imma come a rustlin'.

That alternative is NPC stations.

Yeah, that's why I'd also stop caps from docking in NPC stations too, and put a cap their hangar capacity as well :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/cevkve/limit_asset_safety_diminishing_returns/eu5c6rz/

:)

I don't wield any power.

If I did, New Eden would be a hellscape of hardcore torture where you had to work to achieve and maintain greatness.

Caps docking in NPC stations - yes, everywhere - you want to own them, be prepared to have to build the infrastructure to support them.

Capping NPC station hangar capacities - no not everywhere, just in nullsec - if organizations out there want to hold space, they should have to create their own infrastructure from the ground up in order to do so.

Like it or not, NPC nullsec is called NPC nullsec for a reason. It doesn't belong to a player alliance, it belongs to the faction that holds sov.

Yep, it's something that we've talked about - I think CCP karkur has been investigating some stuff related to it, but I'm not 100% sure :)

Yeah, that's why I'd also restrict the number of structures you could put down in a system, or perhaps a constellation, too.

Do you even play the game dude?????

Extensively, and like many others I'm aware of the fact that structure and cap proliferation as well as obscenely unbalanced wealth distribution are some of the largest issues there are.

Limits on the number of structures a system/constellation/region can host is also viable for capping structure spam.

As for AFKing - there's a simple solution - don't put all your eggs in one basket.

I like the fact that they're visually exposed and you can use their presence as intelligence to track fleet movements, buildup of arms and use it to gauge someone's military capability.

There are other ways to give people the incentive to move deeper into nullsec.

Re-balancing resource distribution, for instance.

Maybe introducing depletable or diminishing resources...

All manner of things.

Oh no, perish the thought of having to do logistics runs if you want to hold space.

I'll agree with you on that point that cap bumping in general is mega sh*tty, but that's just how destiny works.

Not sure if we'd ever revisit the physics engine for EVE, but it'd be interesting for sure.

<3 I'm just messing with you bud!

Honestly, I'd love to just delete stabs from the game.

But where's the fun in that? :P <3

I'm aware of this - I ran a corporation orders of magnitude smaller than most of the alliances out there for almost a decade, and even that was a ballache.

I'm talking on an individual level, having to actually be out in space is a good thing - regardless of what you're doing.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

It'd be an interesting mechanic, that's for sure.