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| 0s | okay uh first of all I'll say thanks for |
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| 3s | coming out I was kind of nervous that'd |
| 5s | be nobody here for this talk so I'm |
| 7s | really really happy that other people |
| 8s | are interested in uh what I'm going to |
| 10s | talk about here today I was super |
| 11s | nervous uh coming here feeling like |
| 14s | there'd be nobody in the room so thanks |
| 15s | for coming okay uh how did I get here so |
| 18s | I was at Fan Fest last year |
| 20s | talk a little bit more about that later |
| 21s | and there was a presentation during the |
| 24s | main program About Eve analytics which |
| 26s | was talking about some of the things |
| 28s | that have happened in the game over its |
| 30s | history and uh they put this slide up at |
| 32s | the beginning and it turns out there |
| 33s | were five people here last year that had |
| 36s | characters created on the day that Eve |
| 37s | was launched back in May 2003. you're |
| 40s | one of them awesome |
| 43s | last year then yeah yeah so five |
| 46s | characters that were created on day one |
| 47s | uh and I saw my picture on there and I |
| 50s | was like wow it's kind of interesting I |
| 51s | felt like a minor celebrity uh and I |
| 54s | thought maybe I should come back uh and |
| 56s | try and pitch a talk about how the games |
| 58s | changed over that 20-year period uh and |
| 61s | just reflect a little bit on my my |
| 62s | experience as a kind of a long-term |
| 64s | player of Eve uh I should say that in my |
| 67s | real life jobs I've given like hundreds |
| 69s | and hundreds of talks over the years and |
| 70s | I'll I'll dox myself at the end so you |
| 72s | can like look me up uh but I'm weirdly |
| 74s | nervous about this one I've never ever |
| 76s | given a talk about a video game before |
| 77s | so it's my first time out but I've given |
| 79s | a lot of talks okay uh what am I going |
| 81s | to cover uh this story is sort of in |
| 83s | five chapters really six chapters maybe |
| 85s | so uh talk a little bit about my |
| 88s | formative uh few months in the game and |
| 91s | what I found we'll talk about a couple |
| 93s | of player organizations that were in was |
| 96s | in really early in Eve's like life cycle |
| 98s | one of which is actually quite well |
| 99s | known which is Shinra they actually did |
| 101s | some interesting stuff at the beginning |
| 102s | of the game and then this minor Co-op |
| 104s | that I'm sure nobody'll ever heard of |
| 105s | called DNA but my experiences playing |
| 108s | with those guys really had quite a big |
| 110s | impact on how I went on to play the game |
| 112s | for the rest of the time that I have |
| 114s | done uh then talk a little bit about |
| 115s | taking breaks and coming back to the |
| 117s | game after actually pretty long periods |
| 119s | of time and then uh you know I'm in |
| 121s | Shadow cartel and I've been in Shadow |
| 123s | cartel for quite a while there's a few |
| 124s | guys down here that I play with a lot uh |
| 126s | and I can't really do this talk without |
| 128s | talking a little bit about Lil SEC life |
| 129s | and kind of what it's like to operate in |
| 132s | a uh a corporation like that an alliance |
| 134s | like that which I think has a pretty |
| 135s | unique take on the game so we'll cover |
| 137s | that as well okay |
| 139s | now uh uh there are actually three major |
| 142s | actors in this story and I'll explain |
| 143s | why there are three major actors in this |
| 145s | story but these are the three characters |
| 146s | that you'll find me playing today and I |
| 149s | still play all of them really actively |
| 150s | and you'll find that a lot of players |
| 152s | that started really early in Eve's life |
| 155s | do have multiple main accounts and |
| 157s | there's a really obvious reason for that |
| 159s | which I'll get to so these are my you |
| 161s | know three personas they all do |
| 162s | different things and they're all created |
| 164s | for different reasons and we'll get on |
| 165s | and talk about them now so the first one |
| 167s | was active or Force this guy was created |
| 169s | on the day of launch at you can see on |
| 172s | the uh character info sheet 1721 so I |
| 176s | would imagine that I kind of got home |
| 177s | from work 6 21 in the UK where I live |
| 179s | got home from work very excited uh to |
| 182s | play this new game created this |
| 184s | character uh how did I choose that name |
| 185s | well Amar and uh you know the sort of |
| 188s | Latin Roman influence that is present in |
| 191s | a lot of them are character names I kind |
| 192s | of thought activore was a bit Latin |
| 194s | sounding and the fourth part uh you know |
| 198s | the story is about this guy who traded |
| 200s | his uh he traded his soul to the devil |
| 203s | for material gain right I thought that |
| 205s | was kind of you know interesting I guess |
| 207s | and that turned out to be pretty apt |
| 209s | later on when I you know became an evil |
| 211s | an evil space pirate uh so that was the |
| 214s | sort of that was the the starting of |
| 215s | that character and this is the |
| 216s | employment history then you can see I've |
| 218s | not been in in that many clubs |
| 219s | throughout my throughout my lifetime |
| 221s | so this was the first uh tag |
| 224s | trans-dimensional uh this Corp was |
| 226s | actually created before Eve was launched |
| 228s | this is a Corp that existed in beta uh |
| 230s | it was founded by a guy called Ragnar |
| 232s | and he was a pretty interesting guy he |
| 234s | was like super busy and I'm pretty sure |
| 236s | that he worked in the games industry he |
| 238s | was an American pretty sure that he |
| 239s | worked somehow in the video games |
| 240s | industry and unfortunately after the |
| 242s | game was launched uh the way that it |
| 245s | ended up being played you know in the |
| 247s | sandbox it didn't really align with this |
| 249s | guy's |
| 250s | expectations as to how it would be |
| 252s | played and he quickly quit out and went |
| 254s | to went to do something else now another |
| 256s | interesting thing about this Corporation |
| 258s | is |
| 259s | it's based a whole sort of philosophy |
| 261s | was based on the writings of this person |
| 263s | called Aaron Rand |
| 265s | yeah |
| 266s | yeah and that he gets a reaction right |
| 268s | he gets a reaction because it turns out |
| 270s | that this person is actually that their |
| 272s | ideas are really divisive it's the sort |
| 274s | of root of U.S libertarian politics and |
| 277s | people are like very binary on that |
| 279s | person they either love them or the on |
| 281s | the other side and uh this kind of |
| 283s | manifested itself this sort of set of |
| 285s | beliefs manifested it's in the itself in |
| 288s | the game in a really simple way nobody |
| 290s | would help each other like it's a player |
| 292s | organization where everybody's being |
| 294s | completely selfish so you know how do |
| 296s | you think that worked out |
| 298s | not so well not so well |
| 301s | yeah we got rich but uh you know there |
| 303s | wasn't a lot of uh you know agreeing on |
| 305s | shared goals and collaborating let's say |
| 306s | that didn't really happen over there |
| 308s | uh yeah so this guy quit out and then a |
| 311s | couple of other leaders were uh were in |
| 313s | place in that Court one guy I remember |
| 315s | quite vividly was in the US Military and |
| 317s | he kind of ran the Corp after the |
| 319s | original CEO left uh much like a |
| 322s | military operation and it was a lot more |
| 323s | teamy it was actually a lot better when |
| 325s | this guy he was called gunny p in game |
| 326s | when he took it over it was just a lot |
| 328s | better A lot more fun to hang around and |
| 330s | actually help people achieve some shared |
| 332s | goals you know |
| 333s | so this is a recreation of the first |
| 336s | sort of uh I'd say eight weeks of my |
| 338s | life in Eve yeah got in my little |
| 341s | Tormentor |
| 343s | orbiting a rock in Amar I think it says |
| 347s | yeah and grinding up uh uh grinding up |
| 350s | that currency to try and Advance my |
| 352s | character a little bit and I think the |
| 354s | big thing here is actually got a list on |
| 356s | my phone of stuff that wasn't in the |
| 357s | game at launch which I'll I think I'll |
| 359s | just quickly refer to because there's a |
| 361s | lot of stuff there so |
| 362s | only four ship classes okay uh frigates |
| 366s | Cruisers battleships and one industrial |
| 368s | per race so you had a very limited uh |
| 371s | toolkit to play with you've probably |
| 372s | heard about it the optimal mining ship |
| 377s | which one you know |
| 378s | the epoch yeah it's got eight turret |
| 380s | slops right so it would sit in our |
| 381s | epochs in lower SEC or in null and we |
| 384s | would mine uh in our apocs and it was |
| 387s | shortly after launch oh and Jet can |
| 389s | mining was the thing right so there was |
| 391s | no suspect flag at this point right so |
| 392s | jet can mining people would come along |
| 395s | and steal your valuable ore with |
| 396s | complete impunity and take it and you |
| 398s | could do nothing about it that was a |
| 399s | feature of the game at the beginning |
| 401s | uh and it was around this time you know |
| 403s | when I was doing this mining that I |
| 405s | realized I needed an alts and I created |
| 407s | this second character that you might |
| 408s | have seen frizon devois galente French |
| 411s | influence on the name that's why that |
| 412s | name got chosen later on I would train |
| 415s | that character into galante combat ships |
| 417s | because I wanted to you know fly a |
| 418s | megathron and use blasters to destroy |
| 420s | people so that all got trained on that |
| 422s | chair as well and still to this day he's |
| 424s | like perfect on everything in the |
| 425s | galante race that's essentially the |
| 427s | route that that shower went down other |
| 429s | things that were missing uh there were |
| 432s | no lodgy |
| 433s | no links |
| 435s | there were no implants apart from one |
| 437s | through four attribute enhancers no hard |
| 439s | wirings no ascendancies no amulets |
| 442s | nothing so you didn't have any of that |
| 443s | stuff uh |
| 446s | there were no rigs on ships either so |
| 448s | Riggs didn't we're not in the game there |
| 450s | was no exploration there were no |
| 452s | wormholes the only real forms of income |
| 454s | were belt routing or mining so it was |
| 456s | like super simple sandbox |
| 458s | uh and the skill queue it was like not |
| 461s | long so it was 24 hours if a skill ran |
| 464s | out and you couldn't get back to your |
| 465s | computer in 24 hours then you know that |
| 467s | was dead time where you weren't you |
| 468s | weren't accumulating skills uh there was |
| 471s | no Plex there was no Nez you wouldn't |
| 474s | store there were no skins there was no |
| 476s | multi-character training |
| 478s | there were no skill injectors and in |
| 479s | fact before you could actually train |
| 480s | meaningful skills you had to train |
| 482s | learning skills which would boost your |
| 484s | attributes so that you could actually |
| 485s | train something meaningful so you know |
| 487s | want to do something new in the game |
| 488s | it's like hurry up and wait |
| 491s | until that character eventually |
| 493s | accumulates enough skill points to do |
| 495s | that thing so it was kind of basic |
| 496s | really |
| 500s | the interface was much less look yeah |
| 501s | yeah but you know I came to this game |
| 503s | from something else called Earth and |
| 505s | Beyond which was a another multiplayer |
| 507s | space game |
| 510s | and God Eve looked beautiful compared to |
| 512s | that that was you know like I'd say last |
| 515s | last generation was kind of kind of |
| 517s | basic uh |
| 519s | what else ECM |
| 522s | was a completely incurable disease when |
| 525s | jammed you could do nothing any Fleet |
| 527s | with a large number of scorpions in it |
| 528s | was essentially a death ball that nobody |
| 530s | could fight |
| 531s | uh and then the other thing was uh |
| 534s | bookmarks and gate warping right you |
| 536s | couldn't walk to a gate at zero in fact |
| 538s | you couldn't walk to anything at zero |
| 539s | there was only one warping distance and |
| 541s | that was 15 kilometers |
| 542s | so you wanted to go to a new region or |
| 544s | to a new part of space you would send |
| 546s | someone in your Corp to go into that |
| 548s | region in a frigate make bookmarks 15 |
| 551s | kilometers behind every Stargate in that |
| 553s | region so that you could then walk to |
| 555s | those bookmarks and drop onto that |
| 556s | Stargate and jump straight through it |
| 557s | and not get killed and this was like a |
| 559s | major industry for some players like |
| 561s | mapping regions of the game copying |
| 564s | thousands of bookmarks and selling them |
| 566s | to people that wanted to go to those |
| 567s | regions to fast travel through them that |
| 569s | was an actual thing that people used to |
| 571s | have to do which is kind of amazing uh |
| 574s | and then shortly after launch certainly |
| 576s | in the first year uh CCP introduced |
| 579s | these flippable stations in nullsack to |
| 582s | try to drive some conflict and you would |
| 584s | Siege them we would Siege these stations |
| 586s | which would call outposts we would Siege |
| 587s | them in top Ravens actually and blast |
| 589s | them and the last person that got the |
| 591s | hit on the structure to take it down to |
| 593s | zero would flip it and that Corporation |
| 595s | not Alliance would gain control over |
| 597s | docking rights for that station that was |
| 599s | essentially the null meta game |
| 601s | yeah no alliances that was the null meta |
| 603s | game at this time at this time in the |
| 605s | game it was flipping these outposts over |
| 607s | and over again and despite all of those |
| 609s | things uh you know it was still awesome |
| 611s | I still loved it so yeah |
| 613s | how do you like the first four weeks of |
| 615s | if you think the new player experience |
| 617s | has improved quite a lot since uh since |
| 620s | this point |
| 625s | yeah yeah |
| 628s | so uh after like you know that four to |
| 631s | six weeks of grinding of mining that |
| 634s | veldspar I eventually bought this Mighty |
| 637s | scorpion battleship |
| 640s | and I thought I'll take this out to our |
| 642s | Null Sec staging location in tip RG uh |
| 648s | and I very nearly quit the game as a |
| 650s | result of what you know happened okay |
| 651s | which was I got caught in a gate camp |
| 653s | like in a lot of you know political |
| 655s | Intrigue even at this stage I thought |
| 657s | the people that were killing me were |
| 659s | blue before I jumped into them and it |
| 661s | turned out that that Arrangement had |
| 663s | been dissolved just a few minutes before |
| 665s | my beautiful scorpion was also dissolved |
| 668s | uh and nothing was left of course and |
| 670s | for a long time you could find my tears |
| 673s | as a result of this incident online I |
| 675s | actually lost my in local |
| 677s | completely I went crazy with these guys |
| 680s | they they cut and pasted it and put it |
| 682s | on a forum and it was searchable for |
| 683s | years so you know my main lesson from |
| 685s | that is whatever you put on the internet |
| 688s | lives forever okay even if it's like |
| 690s | spaceships you know spaceships drama |
| 693s | shortly after that uh there was a new |
| 695s | CEO in uh in TTI in Target |
| 697s | transdimensional called Marque and uh he |
| 700s | was like a super cautious small gang |
| 702s | player we didn't really want to involve |
| 703s | the corporation as it was in large Fleet |
| 706s | fights which I actually really enjoyed |
| 708s | at the time these battleships slugfest |
| 709s | and uh I decided that I would leave and |
| 712s | kind of seek out more PVP and this is |
| 714s | where I got involved in Shinra uh and a |
| 717s | few other pvps from TTI went with me |
| 721s | over to Shinra as well including one guy |
| 722s | called Drax whose real knife name is |
| 725s | Matt he lives in Wales he's become a |
| 726s | friend of mine I've known him for a long |
| 727s | time uh and we went together over into |
| 730s | into Shinra really to try and you know |
| 732s | create a little bit of a PVP experience |
| 734s | for ourselves that was sort of next |
| 735s | stage in the game now Drax and I used to |
| 738s | play a lot together and one really |
| 739s | really Vivid incident I can still |
| 741s | remember now and we're going back like |
| 742s | 20 years here nearly in time we were in |
| 745s | a Duo roam in our ishtars which were new |
| 747s | to get new to the game at the time hacks |
| 749s | were completely new to the game I don't |
| 750s | know if you know when the iftar was |
| 752s | first released into the game game the |
| 754s | bonus was not actually drone damage the |
| 756s | bonus was more drones so if you had |
| 758s | hacked level five you would fly 15 heavy |
| 761s | drones with the oyster I mean God only |
| 764s | knows what the effect of that was on the |
| 765s | performance of the simulation node but |
| 766s | I'm thinking probably not good because |
| 768s | any large Fleet would have hundreds and |
| 770s | hundreds and hundreds of of drones and I |
| 772s | should say one feature of the game at |
| 774s | this time was you put 40 80 100 people |
| 776s | in a system and the simulation node |
| 778s | would usually crash at that point so |
| 780s | when you talk about large Fleet fights |
| 782s | in the early days of Eve you're talking |
| 784s | about 50 players really being involved |
| 786s | with them it's not like you see today |
| 787s | with hundreds even in cello cartel we |
| 789s | have fights with there'll be 500 to a |
| 791s | thousand ships on grid sometimes that |
| 793s | would have been completely impossible at |
| 795s | the beginning that would have been a |
| 796s | crash vest and you know nobody would |
| 797s | have been playing the game at that kind |
| 798s | of scale |
| 800s | anyway uh Drax and I roaming around I |
| 803s | think in Syndicate and remember there |
| 804s | were no adcs no assault damage controls |
| 807s | in the game here but these rep these |
| 809s | ships could still rep pretty well uh of |
| 812s | course with drone boats you're not using |
| 814s | cap to run the guns right so you can use |
| 816s | all that to run your wrappers and we |
| 818s | fought and killed a typhoon just the two |
| 820s | of us on a gate at zero and our drones |
| 822s | just chewed through it on the on this |
| 824s | gate he was blasting us with with torps |
| 826s | because there were no rapid Heavies then |
| 827s | uh |
| 829s | and we beat him and that was kind of my |
| 830s | first introduction in Eve to this kind |
| 833s | of asymmetric model that you've got |
| 835s | where small ships can beat large ones |
| 837s | and it's like rock paper scissors right |
| 839s | I really really enjoyed that and I still |
| 840s | now 20 years later vividly remember that |
| 843s | individual fight so how impactful it was |
| 846s | on me and my experience of the game |
| 849s | so uh the other thing that happened here |
| 853s | at the end of 2003 uh was the Caster |
| 855s | expansion right and the arrival of Tech |
| 857s | 2 bpos in the lottery yeah I don't know |
| 860s | if anyone knows the mechanic here you |
| 862s | would train research project management |
| 863s | you would grind standings with a |
| 865s | particular faction up to 5.0 and that |
| 867s | would unlock level 4 research agents for |
| 869s | you fly around the Galaxy talk to the |
| 871s | research agents get them started on a |
| 874s | research project and instead of |
| 875s | returning data cores like they do today |
| 877s | research data cores like they do today |
| 878s | they would return entries into an |
| 881s | invisible Lottery |
| 882s | and occasionally you'd get an email an |
| 884s | |
| 885s | saying uh do you want a BPO |
| 888s | and I hit on the tracking disruptor 2 |
| 891s | BPO during that Lottery but my friends |
| 894s | in the uh industrial Corp Drax and |
| 897s | someone else that we used to play with |
| 898s | in TTI called Ulan they'd set up a |
| 900s | little side business in Industry uh I |
| 904s | would say they were either very very |
| 906s | lucky or they had a lot of alts okay |
| 909s | because over the years we'll talk about |
| 911s | this a bit later they minted a lot of |
| 914s | Tech 2 bpos through that process and |
| 916s | that's made me space Rich thankfully you |
| 919s | know 20 years later I'll explain a |
| 921s | little bit about how that came about so |
| 922s | I was kind of dabbling around with this |
| 924s | Tech 2 production but what I was really |
| 926s | interested in was small gang PVP and |
| 929s | also you know these battleships look |
| 930s | best with uh with Shinra |
| 932s | despite my uh |
| 934s | my efforts in Tech 2 manufacturing only |
| 937s | been kind of limited |
| 939s | I did attract the attention of this guy |
| 942s | hi ho this is concerning your sales of |
| 945s | Tech 2 attacking tracking disruptors via |
| 947s | the Forum I noticed that you dropped the |
| 949s | price down to 1.65 per piece we're not |
| 952s | happy about this situation and I guess |
| 953s | you're not either we would like to stick |
| 955s | to 2 million per piece there was a Tech |
| 958s | 2 manufacturing cartel operating in the |
| 961s | game which I'd stumbled into with my |
| 963s | limited sales of the one module that I |
| 965s | managed to get a BPO for so found this |
| 967s | kind of interesting meta gaming and I |
| 970s | think you know with the arrival of |
| 971s | research and invention |
| 973s | all this stuff's been eliminated but it |
| 975s | was definitely uh you know people were |
| 977s | exerting a lot of control over markets |
| 979s | even back in 2005 when this when this |
| 981s | message was sent |
| 984s | okay so back to Shinra uh |
| 986s | you know this is early in the game |
| 988s | actually they were created we were |
| 989s | created in Shinra before there were |
| 992s | alliances as a construct so you couldn't |
| 994s | create an alliance he couldn't hold |
| 995s | solve you couldn't do any of that stuff |
| 996s | you could just team up with a few of the |
| 998s | co-ops with similar interests and try to |
| 1000s | exert control over an area of space and |
| 1002s | those areas of space they had to have |
| 1004s | NPC stations right because there were no |
| 1006s | outposts there were no pauses there were |
| 1008s | no structures |
| 1010s | there's nothing out there yeah so that's |
| 1012s | what we did we set up in curse we |
| 1015s | created something called curse alliance |
| 1017s | with our leader Chow Down who I've |
| 1020s | actually discovered is a friend of CCP |
| 1022s | arcade he knows him pretty well they're |
| 1023s | both from the UK and CP arcade was in |
| 1026s | general with me at the same time I |
| 1028s | didn't recognize this when I started on |
| 1030s | this journey to write this talk but he |
| 1032s | was there at the same time as me so we |
| 1034s | were out there in uh in curse we were |
| 1037s | fighting alliances then we're mostly |
| 1039s | connected to Regions so we were fighting |
| 1041s | fa or Fountain Alliance as they were |
| 1043s | called uh and we were flying with other |
| 1046s | Corps Shinra |
| 1047s | atok or Arcane Technologies UK and most |
| 1050s | of the people in that Corp were from |
| 1051s | Birmingham in the UK |
| 1053s | guy called Noob scripture great name |
| 1054s | love that name he was a fc that I |
| 1057s | remember flying with a lot and then this |
| 1058s | guy Chow Down and it was literally |
| 1060s | Battleship slopefest so our apocs |
| 1063s | against Fountain alliances megaphones on |
| 1065s | a gate typically 40 against 40 50 |
| 1068s | against 50. by this time usually the |
| 1070s | simulation node would stay up and we |
| 1071s | could finish those fights but they were |
| 1073s | over quite quickly you know neurology no |
| 1075s | extended fight it was just kind of |
| 1077s | simple positioning and Blasting away |
| 1079s | each other and then uh something awful |
| 1081s | happened which was politics really don't |
| 1085s | like politics and games |
| 1087s | um maybe I'm playing the wrong game |
| 1089s | laughs |
| 1090s | so uh votf Vengeance of the Fallen black |
| 1094s | Omega security and a few of the corpse |
| 1096s | they splinted off from coast Alliance |
| 1098s | there was a lot of political infighting |
| 1101s | and I just like people yelling on |
| 1103s | TeamSpeak or ventrillo I think as it was |
| 1104s | back then I just checked out I wasn't |
| 1106s | interested in it so I quit it uh |
| 1109s | and in the background uh something |
| 1111s | really big was happening in Eve and |
| 1113s | people in the game were talking about |
| 1114s | this big news and that big news was this |
| 1118s | uh guiding hand Social Club |
| 1121s | destruction of a really really high |
| 1123s | value in-game Asset through what can |
| 1125s | only really be described as an act of |
| 1127s | Highly well planned and executed |
| 1129s | corporate espionage |
| 1131s | uh what happened is this guy |
| 1135s | here |
| 1136s | made friends with this guy here who had |
| 1139s | this really high value Asset over months |
| 1142s | and months and months and months |
| 1143s | established like a deep relationship of |
| 1145s | trust |
| 1147s | got him to take his one of a kind or two |
| 1151s | of a kind Imperial apoc |
| 1153s | out of the station dangerous location |
| 1155s | and then he walks him |
| 1158s | and it was such a big |
| 1161s | story that it actually got into the |
| 1163s | print so this is in PC Gamer in the UK |
| 1165s | several months later it actually got |
| 1166s | into print but it had been talked about |
| 1168s | in the community for quite a long time |
| 1169s | before that and it was covered by the |
| 1171s | mainstream media this is Spiegel you |
| 1173s | know it's like one of the biggest media |
| 1175s | outlets in Germany writing an article |
| 1176s | about the destruction of virtual Assets |
| 1179s | in a video game through an act of |
| 1181s | corporate Espionage it's kind of big you |
| 1183s | know this is probably a seminal moment |
| 1185s | in video gaming history really is so |
| 1188s | that happened and I was looking for a |
| 1189s | new Corp uh you know looking around in |
| 1192s | recruitment threads on the Eve online |
| 1194s | forums and I found this guy called ifney |
| 1196s | uh and are looking in its employment |
| 1199s | history and there it was guiding hands |
| 1201s | social club was in his employment |
| 1202s | history I thought this guy looks |
| 1203s | interesting I should probably try and |
| 1205s | join him like learn how to be a real |
| 1207s | space pirate instead of like a line |
| 1209s | member in a big ish null set corporation |
| 1212s | which is what Shinra would become at |
| 1214s | that point and I was sold on the idea |
| 1215s | before I saw this video and I was told |
| 1217s | not to put videos in this talk but this |
| 1218s | video really affected me when I saw it |
| 1220s | so |
| 1221s | hope you like it's only a few seconds |
| 1224s | [Music] |
| 1236s | [Applause] |
| 1241s | [Music] |
| 1249s | it goes on the highlight of that video |
| 1251s | by the way is a raven arriving on a gate |
| 1255s | without an insta jump bookmark because |
| 1257s | none of his friends had been 15K past |
| 1259s | the gate and made a bookmark turning on |
| 1261s | is my micro warp drive to burn to the |
| 1263s | gate and has anyone ever heard the term |
| 1265s | gank again |
| 1267s | well there was a gank again parked on |
| 1269s | the gate and I'm not joking the gank |
| 1271s | again evaporated The Raven before he |
| 1273s | could microwarp the 15K to the gate he |
| 1275s | had eight heat sinks in his lures |
| 1278s | and there were no stacking penalties at |
| 1280s | this point so your damage would just |
| 1282s | ramp exponentially as you stacked in |
| 1283s | more damage mods it was a great time as |
| 1286s | long as you weren't on the receiving end |
| 1287s | of that disco laser show because you |
| 1289s | were having a bad time if you got hit by |
| 1290s | it uh so that was an awesome period in |
| 1293s | my uh my history playing the game and it |
| 1295s | you know still air on my bio on my |
| 1296s | charts I still kept that piracy it's |
| 1299s | kind of a something that I found really |
| 1300s | interesting and this was like I would |
| 1302s | describe it as said it here it's like |
| 1304s | Elite small gang PVP there were like |
| 1306s | four guys Five Guys and I was one of |
| 1308s | them zipping around the edge of |
| 1309s | Syndicate uh laying waste to everything |
| 1312s | that we found or running away if the |
| 1313s | fight was too big it was kind of fun |
| 1315s | really really good unfortunately uh |
| 1318s | leadership went AFK and I did some |
| 1320s | research after running 93 days a guy |
| 1323s | called Nicolas who used to run it he |
| 1324s | quit uh and I will say how it's a little |
| 1326s | bit heartbroken it kind of paid to my |
| 1328s | dreams of being you know an elite small |
| 1330s | gang space pirate uh ruining people's |
| 1332s | days on the enter Syndicate I did join |
| 1335s | the establishment for a bit which was a |
| 1337s | follow-on Corp to it's a Shinra that had |
| 1339s | been created after Shinra disintegrated |
| 1341s | following a war with an organization |
| 1343s | called mu which I think a lot of people |
| 1345s | will know but I just couldn't really get |
| 1347s | into it so you know I took a break |
| 1350s | I got distracted by this thing |
| 1353s | I'm not sure a few people have been |
| 1355s | distracted by that |
| 1356s | so then I came back you know a few years |
| 1358s | later I came back to the game and uh |
| 1362s | it's kind of weird feeling when you log |
| 1364s | in after a few years I've been away and |
| 1366s | we've got this at the moment with |
| 1367s | someone that's just come back to the |
| 1368s | Corp uh it's D-Back right just came back |
| 1371s | and he's been away for a few years he's |
| 1372s | like trying to relearn all the systems |
| 1374s | uh you can walk to gates at zero I mean |
| 1378s | that's kind of revolutionary if you know |
| 1379s | more bookmarks but I'm still clearing up |
| 1381s | those bookmarks though on my characters |
| 1383s | now you know that goes a good 20 years |
| 1386s | later uh what else are the big changes |
| 1389s | you could join a fleet Now by clicking a |
| 1392s | link rather than having to have the |
| 1394s | fleet boss invite you that's actually a |
| 1396s | really big quality of life change and |
| 1397s | all of the embedded data that you can |
| 1399s | get by clicking hot links in chat I |
| 1400s | think is awesome like none of that stuff |
| 1402s | was there at the beginning yeah I think |
| 1403s | if you think you could click an item |
| 1405s | link when the game first came out that |
| 1406s | wasn't there |
| 1407s | the ingrain browser had been removed |
| 1410s | and also the in-game Jukebox if anyone |
| 1413s | remembers that you could like create and |
| 1414s | manage MP3 playlists natively within the |
| 1417s | game that was a feature that CCP somehow |
| 1419s | prioritized at the beginning of |
| 1421s | development uh I took a look around and |
| 1424s | uh some of my old core some of my |
| 1426s | characters were still in those |
| 1427s | industrial co-ops that they'd been in |
| 1430s | with Drax uh and Drax was still playing |
| 1432s | the game at this point Matt was still |
| 1434s | playing the game at this point uh we |
| 1435s | hung out for a while we were in an |
| 1437s | alliance when I came back with the old |
| 1439s | corpse called affirmative and actually |
| 1441s | went a couple of Realms with somebody |
| 1443s | called gregal who many of you should |
| 1444s | know is an organizer in the eve |
| 1446s | community and does great work so I was |
| 1448s | on comes with her a couple of times |
| 1450s | it was kind of casual PVP I did that for |
| 1452s | a while and then uh also set up Lars you |
| 1455s | know my Minotaur character that I talked |
| 1457s | about before I set him up in amamaki |
| 1459s | doing level four missions and ground |
| 1461s | quite a lot of risk out of level four |
| 1462s | missions I can say I'm a Mackie at this |
| 1464s | point it was not dangerous |
| 1466s | like it is today it was kind of a |
| 1467s | chilled out place with a lot of mission |
| 1468s | Runners try doing that now and uh |
| 1471s | boltrams boltrams guys will come down |
| 1473s | only like an iron Cannon and you won't |
| 1475s | exist anymore which is kind of funny The |
| 1477s | Establishment was completely gone uh |
| 1480s | some people I knew from Shinra were |
| 1482s | still playing Eve uh and I was like on |
| 1484s | the hunt for a new Corp and I found this |
| 1486s | thing called Beyond Divinity uh |
| 1490s | and when I looked at my application |
| 1491s | which actually I still have here so my |
| 1494s | application to join Beyond Divinity in |
| 1495s | Shadow cartel if you're young this is |
| 1497s | something called a forum |
| 1499s | you know this is what we used to have |
| 1502s | before we have Discord yeah this is what |
| 1504s | we used to have so and all these |
| 1506s | applications are still there right and |
| 1507s | there's some good stuff in them and |
| 1508s | reading this it just reconfirms |
| 1510s | everything that I found this quite late |
| 1511s | in the research process for this talk |
| 1513s | but it just reconfirms everything I |
| 1515s | thought about the game at the time is |
| 1516s | actually written down in here so it's |
| 1518s | well worth a read and I'm sure that |
| 1520s | these slides will get circulated I'll |
| 1521s | take a look at it it's kind of funny uh |
| 1523s | so I was like researching on Zed kill |
| 1525s | trying to find another Corp like DNA |
| 1527s | believe it or not and I found this group |
| 1528s | called body uh and the main thing I |
| 1531s | noticed about them is they'd have like |
| 1532s | blingy kill males well they're killed |
| 1534s | quite expensive Hardware with just three |
| 1536s | or four people and thought this looks |
| 1537s | kind of interesting |
| 1538s | and I applied to it and I got in and |
| 1540s | obviously you know joining a Corp I had |
| 1542s | to do my short trial and I actually |
| 1544s | found a kill mail from August 2014 when |
| 1547s | I was still in affirmative with another |
| 1550s | corpse called special circumstances |
| 1551s | which was one of the old courts that we |
| 1553s | had and but I was on a kill Mill with a |
| 1555s | bunch of Shadow cartel people and that's |
| 1556s | obviously the point at which I made this |
| 1558s | transition it's kind of hard piecing |
| 1559s | this stuff together it's a long time ago |
| 1560s | right so |
| 1562s | uh what else yeah well by the way during |
| 1565s | my application process I discovered a |
| 1567s | player called Angel uh it's actually a n |
| 1570s | g e one and I recommend you look this |
| 1573s | guy up on YouTube if you want to see |
| 1574s | really old |
| 1575s | poor quality but very very authentic |
| 1578s | videos of what Eve was like during its |
| 1580s | early history you find this guy's |
| 1582s | YouTube and he's got some great stuff |
| 1583s | he's got Chow Down another player called |
| 1585s | the embalmer another player called the |
| 1587s | Monk and I remember these guys |
| 1589s | unfortunately I'm not in any of these |
| 1590s | videos but the quality of them is so |
| 1592s | awful I just couldn't put them in this |
| 1593s | couldn't put them in this talk but it's |
| 1595s | worth a look so I met uh trouser deagle |
| 1597s | who is the CEO of body at this point wow |
| 1600s | bagger who's the alliance leader for SC |
| 1602s | Who's down here at the front uh and also |
| 1604s | this guy called Paquita |
| 1606s | anybody here heard of Paquita has |
| 1609s | anybody watch the shadow cartel YouTube |
| 1611s | video and heard yelling |
| 1613s | that's Poquito right it's kind of crazy |
| 1615s | and he's kind of agitated but he's |
| 1616s | actually a very good Fleet operator when |
| 1619s | he does in my opinion help us win a lot |
| 1620s | of fights so we'd probably lose if he |
| 1622s | wasn't there yelling at us to do better |
| 1623s | so it's kind of you know an interesting |
| 1625s | experience at this time uh actually |
| 1627s | applied to Shadow Qatar with my second |
| 1629s | character first which is frison frizz on |
| 1631s | devoir and most people in Shadow cartel |
| 1633s | know me as frizz on so you get this kind |
| 1634s | of weird thing with all these aliases |
| 1636s | floating around and I'd also say many |
| 1638s | characters have been hidden for upset |
| 1640s | reasons okay so I have a lot of other |
| 1641s | channels as well be on these with a lot |
| 1643s | of other stuff uh |
| 1645s | yeah |
| 1646s | so that was uh Shadow cartel it was |
| 1650s | ishtars by the way Ishtar is my favorite |
| 1652s | ship of all time and it was ishtars it |
| 1655s | was Navy apocs if you remember that comp |
| 1657s | and it was Proteus T3 fleets we were |
| 1660s | flying around in lussec uh and we were |
| 1663s | actually big at this point okay Shadow |
| 1665s | cartel was really big we were beating |
| 1667s | snuff we were fighting triumviron who we |
| 1669s | now kind of work with quite a lot but |
| 1670s | we're fighting them a lot we were |
| 1671s | fighting an alliance called overload |
| 1673s | everything do you remember those guys |
| 1675s | um and that was a lot of fun but we were |
| 1677s | killing everybody there's one fight that |
| 1679s | I found Now kill board festive January |
| 1681s | 2015 we killed three dreads four |
| 1683s | carriers and three mixers in a low set |
| 1686s | Royal and all we had was a bad ends and |
| 1688s | some lodgy |
| 1689s | we obliterate all of these super |
| 1691s | capitals with them it was great times uh |
| 1694s | and actually that bad and Hull had been |
| 1695s | added during the time I've been away you |
| 1697s | know the third Battleship Hall was added |
| 1698s | during that period as well |
| 1700s | so during that period I came to my first |
| 1702s | Fan Fest which was 2015. uh a few |
| 1705s | highlights first thing is if you didn't |
| 1707s | know they actually changed the date of |
| 1708s | that event to synchronize it with a 98 |
| 1711s | solar eclipse |
| 1713s | and it was at the Harper so in the |
| 1715s | middle of the afternoon we all went |
| 1716s | outside |
| 1719s | this amazing thing happened I mean it |
| 1722s | needs explanation because they might not |
| 1723s | spot it in the photos believe it or not |
| 1725s | those photos are taken about five |
| 1726s | minutes apart |
| 1727s | you know there's no clouds on this one |
| 1729s | on this one the sky is completely full |
| 1730s | of clouds the sun got occluded by the |
| 1733s | moon the temperature dropped so fast |
| 1734s | that all of the ice crystals in the |
| 1735s | upper atmosphere froze instantly and |
| 1737s | just clouded the whole sky in about a |
| 1739s | minute and a half it was really |
| 1740s | something I've never seen anything like |
| 1742s | that in terms of the content |
| 1743s | few things first of all I met a guy |
| 1745s | called Michael Bravo Who's down here at |
| 1747s | the front uh Michael at the time was |
| 1749s | living in St Petersburg and a few years |
| 1751s | later he found me in Tel Aviv at a work |
| 1752s | event that I was at in Clemente High |
| 1754s | which was actually really really nice |
| 1755s | it's good to see you again really really |
| 1757s | good and then the other big thing at |
| 1759s | this event was uh |
| 1761s | virtual reality Eve Valkyrie |
| 1764s | putting on that headset shooting out of |
| 1766s | that launch tube and finding yourself in |
| 1768s | a fighter amongst the battle with a lot |
| 1770s | of super caps that was kind of awesome |
| 1772s | that was my first experience of VR I |
| 1774s | know it's completely blown away by it |
| 1775s | really really good I really enjoyed and |
| 1778s | I'm sorry that wasn't actually a |
| 1779s | successful project I thought it was |
| 1780s | really really great the other big thing |
| 1782s | that was announced in 2015 was uh |
| 1787s | structures up well structures and they |
| 1789s | were added to the game sometime in the |
| 1791s | next 18 months I think after 2016 yeah |
| 1794s | so you know I didn't actually appreciate |
| 1796s | how much this would change the way the |
| 1798s | game works I still consider it to be the |
| 1800s | greatest evolution in the history of the |
| 1801s | game the addition of upwell structures |
| 1803s | the three structure classes making |
| 1805s | nullsack livable even though I've never |
| 1807s | lived there making null Tech livable and |
| 1809s | also uh providing like a more strategic |
| 1812s | meta game actual objectives to fight |
| 1814s | over you can see how some of these big |
| 1815s | Wars work with people kind of creeping |
| 1817s | their front line forward by putting down |
| 1819s | structures and the Defenders trying to |
| 1821s | destroy them through the timer cycle I |
| 1823s | think it's really awesome and I think |
| 1824s | the way that the timers work on a fixed |
| 1825s | schedule is also great for a game that's |
| 1827s | truly International right we can play in |
| 1829s | our time zone the Russians can play in |
| 1831s | their time zone the Chinese people that |
| 1833s | we have quite a few of them actually in |
| 1834s | Shadow cartel they can play in their |
| 1835s | time zone defend their own structures |
| 1837s | and they've got their own metagame which |
| 1838s | is time zone appropriate for them which |
| 1839s | I think is really really an awesome |
| 1841s | feature |
| 1842s | uh so played quite intensively for a |
| 1844s | while and then I took a break and the |
| 1846s | reason I took a break really was my IRL |
| 1848s | job I was traveling all the time and uh |
| 1851s | you can play Eve on a laptop but not the |
| 1852s | way I play it okay with like |
| 1854s | multi-boxing and lots of vaults it just |
| 1856s | doesn't really work so sadly you've had |
| 1858s | to go for a while |
| 1859s | took a long break and then uh something |
| 1862s | happened right covert happened |
| 1865s | and lots and lots of people returned to |
| 1866s | the game that had been on long breaks |
| 1868s | and I was one of them that came back uh |
| 1872s | mainly because I just wasn't traveling |
| 1874s | anymore with my work and I was traveling |
| 1875s | so much uh before covered so uh this |
| 1878s | time I got off to a much better start |
| 1880s | okay last time around when I joined the |
| 1883s | first thing that happened was my bestowa |
| 1885s | got blown up in high SEC with 322 |
| 1888s | million disks worth of Mario and |
| 1890s | Starship engineering data cores in it |
| 1892s | so the first time I returned actually |
| 1894s | you know some things had changed but one |
| 1896s | thing hadn't changed which is high SEC |
| 1898s | is a dangerous place I shouldn't go |
| 1899s | there |
| 1900s | this time around it was quite different |
| 1902s | the first action of no on my kill board |
| 1904s | here was God knows what possessed this |
| 1907s | person but he tried to gate and moros |
| 1908s | through Shadow cartel's home system and |
| 1911s | that didn't end very well for him |
| 1912s | unfortunately me and 25 other people |
| 1914s | ruined his day by destroying this on a |
| 1917s | gate in Adora and just after he jumped |
| 1918s | out of issue where we live |
| 1920s | uh I also though you know made my own |
| 1923s | mistakes the most amusing one was |
| 1925s | discovering how command destroyers or |
| 1927s | boosters worked which I didn't know were |
| 1929s | in the game I found myself 100 |
| 1930s | kilometers off the undock thankfully it |
| 1933s | was only a vexer and uh the kwafskin I |
| 1936s | got in the 2015 Fan Fest was not damaged |
| 1938s | during the incident but I did lose the |
| 1940s | ship and I think that's one of the |
| 1942s | awesome things about coming back to the |
| 1943s | game you never know quite what's |
| 1945s | different and it's actually quite hard |
| 1946s | to get a kind of readout of everything |
| 1948s | that's changed and this kind of |
| 1950s | Discovery period that you had you have |
| 1952s | when you when you start playing again I |
| 1954s | consider it a really really interesting |
| 1955s | and really really fun the constant |
| 1957s | evolution is just awesome |
| 1959s | uh this time around uh I did check |
| 1962s | before I came back and after my |
| 1963s | experience with the establishment which |
| 1965s | had just disappeared while I was AFK uh |
| 1967s | and offline for a few years I sent a |
| 1970s | note to them to welbeger saying you know |
| 1972s | what's going on is SC still active |
| 1974s | and he said they'd been completely |
| 1976s | dormant so there'd be almost nobody in |
| 1978s | Shadow cartel for quite a few years and |
| 1979s | they'd been largely inactive uh but by |
| 1982s | the time I returned in October 20 |
| 1985s | the Poco emperor empire was in full |
| 1988s | swing you know we were fighting a lot we |
| 1991s | weren't dominant anymore uh |
| 1994s | but we were still active in fact more |
| 1995s | active than we'd been for a few years |
| 1996s | while I've been away uh and thankfully |
| 1999s | the guy that runs by the trouser uh |
| 2001s | trouser deagle he's terrible at purging |
| 2004s | inactives so all of my characters were |
| 2006s | actually exactly where I left them this |
| 2007s | time around with no need to do anything |
| 2009s | like administrative to get back into the |
| 2011s | corpse which which I think is great uh |
| 2013s | some things had changed so my favorite |
| 2015s | Ishtar was no longer favored you know we |
| 2018s | just weren't using them anymore |
| 2019s | uh uh t3s T3 Cruisers they were the new |
| 2024s | hotness and also this thing called the |
| 2026s | Shacks which like made me |
| 2029s | Wonder |
| 2030s | what are the shacks and actually who are |
| 2032s | triglyvians because all that had |
| 2034s | happened while I was offline |
| 2037s | snuffed out had become completely |
| 2039s | dominant in the period that I'd been |
| 2040s | away and our home system remains |
| 2043s | underneath their Capital umbrella so |
| 2045s | Shadow cartel is more of a gorilla |
| 2048s | operation now we don't really feel very |
| 2051s | expensive Hardware because the chances |
| 2054s | of it staying intact are pretty low so |
| 2056s | if there's any sniffed out people in |
| 2058s | here you're doing a good job of keeping |
| 2059s | us suppressed I would say |
| 2061s | uh the other massive change of course |
| 2064s | was upwell structures were now in the |
| 2066s | game and as I said earlier I think this |
| 2068s | is one of the biggest things that's ever |
| 2069s | happened to Eve those posses they'd been |
| 2072s | reduced to parking lots for supers |
| 2074s | really you know where you park your |
| 2076s | Titan or your super caps and uh |
| 2078s | sometimes they're used in Wormhole space |
| 2080s | for staging but really it's all about |
| 2082s | structures now uh the features that |
| 2084s | offer are just so much better uh and we |
| 2087s | use them a lot I use them a lot as well |
| 2088s | okay and this is one of the reasons that |
| 2090s | I use them so much |
| 2092s | when I was sort of dabbling around with |
| 2094s | Tech 2 manufacturing back in my early |
| 2096s | period in the game I wasn't actually |
| 2098s | paying much attention to what was |
| 2100s | happening in the industrial Corp |
| 2103s | I knew that they were getting these |
| 2105s | blueprints uh |
| 2108s | but I was too busy wanting to Blossom up |
| 2109s | so I didn't really do much with them uh |
| 2112s | and I was getting my money from those L4 |
| 2114s | missions |
| 2115s | uh but when I came back I really started |
| 2117s | looking into this I still had characters |
| 2119s | left in these alt Corps and with the |
| 2121s | structure changes it meant |
| 2123s | you know deploying process is incredibly |
| 2126s | complicated and time consuming where I |
| 2127s | was laying down an ethanol that you can |
| 2130s | do reactions in to start the tech 2 |
| 2132s | manufacturing chain is actually much |
| 2134s | much simpler and also much more |
| 2135s | defensible so I got into that in a big |
| 2138s | way |
| 2139s | uh they didn't sell the second Warrior |
| 2142s | Two BPO by the way they kept that one |
| 2144s | along with 25 others including a hugging |
| 2147s | Mastodon |
| 2148s | uh some ammo prints there's all kinds of |
| 2151s | stuff in there it's locked in the corpse |
| 2153s | I can't remove it I can't scam them and |
| 2155s | steal them and I can't have them blown |
| 2156s | up because it's all the blueprint |
| 2157s | copying's all done in the safety of a |
| 2159s | high-tech high-tech MPC station but |
| 2161s | they're all there so uh yeah that's |
| 2163s | basically how I |
| 2165s | pay for my uh blingy ship habit |
| 2170s | the other guy by the way Yulan who |
| 2171s | mentioned briefly who was in that |
| 2173s | industrial Corp he's actually the |
| 2175s | richest person that I know in Eve like |
| 2177s | no well in Eve I look into his hangar |
| 2179s | and he's got trillions and trillions and |
| 2180s | trillions in assets sitting in there I |
| 2182s | have about three quarters of a trillion |
| 2183s | total assets but he completely dwarfs me |
| 2186s | in terms of his level of wealth he's |
| 2187s | like a super whale because over this |
| 2189s | 10-year period 20-year period when he's |
| 2192s | been playing he's been cranking |
| 2193s | industrial operations on a massive scale |
| 2195s | that's the only way that you could |
| 2196s | explain the level of wealth that he has |
| 2200s | uh teaching manufacturing operation I |
| 2202s | just said it pays for the stuff that I |
| 2204s | want uh also sometimes I can pay back to |
| 2207s | the alliance as well so there was an |
| 2208s | incident uh in March this year that you |
| 2212s | can see at the bottom uh involving uh |
| 2215s | Varga Fleet |
| 2217s | 50 snuff carriers and almost as many |
| 2220s | facts and they came in on top of us when |
| 2222s | we were in Bastion Siege to fighting a |
| 2225s | smaller group and we got wrecked okay |
| 2226s | and I got my two Vargas which I borrowed |
| 2228s | off the alliance were kind of evaporated |
| 2230s | quite quickly uh |
| 2232s | so you know sometimes I can pay back and |
| 2234s | do my own SRP as well which is kind of I |
| 2236s | think helpful a lot of shiny toys some |
| 2239s | stuff that I use a lot Black Ops is |
| 2241s | quite a thing in our corporate |
| 2243s | Corporation in Alliance really like that |
| 2244s | some stuff that's kind of saved in the |
| 2246s | back pocket for when we need it uh and |
| 2248s | some stuff that I'm still working on |
| 2250s | accumulating more wealth to uh to |
| 2252s | acquire |
| 2254s | okay Fan Fest last year came here last |
| 2256s | year as I said at the beginning of the |
| 2257s | talk uh and I came with my partner now |
| 2259s | my fiance Sally she really likes Iceland |
| 2262s | so it's not hard to get her to come out |
| 2264s | here uh and you can see she was like |
| 2266s | skeptical when I made her put on a |
| 2268s | adventure last year |
| 2270s | but then she discovered there was |
| 2271s | cosplay involved in Eve which she loves |
| 2273s | she's actually here in the middle so we |
| 2274s | can make a blessing bless you yeah |
| 2278s | this by the way I should give credit |
| 2280s | this guy is called uh |
| 2282s | arachnos blood feather I don't know if |
| 2285s | he's here this year but he made that |
| 2286s | trig survival shoot suit and was wearing |
| 2288s | here wearing it here last year I think |
| 2290s | it's awesome really really good yeah as |
| 2292s | for snuff well I did also meet a few |
| 2294s | snuffed out people here last year I met |
| 2296s | phantomite who's on the CSM ballot for |
| 2299s | this year he's left actually and is now |
| 2300s | running a big chunk of galante faction |
| 2303s | Warfare fun he's actually a really nice |
| 2305s | guy even when he was in snuff he was a |
| 2306s | really nice guy we also met somebody |
| 2308s | called Alicia Severus uh who we were |
| 2311s | with at the party last year and she is a |
| 2313s | real interesting person first of all |
| 2314s | she's got a massive snuffed out tattoo |
| 2316s | on her arm which I think is awesome but |
| 2318s | secondly she was one of the people |
| 2319s | responsible for destroying my Vagas and |
| 2322s | when I tried to convo her to say stop |
| 2324s | shooting my Vargo we met last year at |
| 2325s | Fan Fest just totally ignored my in-game |
| 2328s | message request so if you see her here I |
| 2331s | want to talk to her about that |
| 2333s | okay |
| 2335s | yeah she cost me four billion asks |
| 2343s | so you know when I started making this |
| 2345s | talk I actually thought that it would be |
| 2347s | mostly about systems like things that |
| 2350s | have changed in the game I thought it |
| 2351s | would be mostly about systems and |
| 2353s | actually it didn't really turn out that |
| 2355s | way it turned out to be more about the |
| 2357s | different people I've played with you |
| 2360s | know which I think is kind of |
| 2361s | interesting because I always like looked |
| 2363s | at the greatest ship his friendship and |
| 2364s | I was kind of you know a bit skeptical |
| 2366s | about it uh |
| 2368s | but I really enjoy some of the people |
| 2370s | I've met playing the game and I think |
| 2372s | that's actually really important |
| 2373s | something that we should probably focus |
| 2374s | on a bit more there's so many people in |
| 2376s | Shadow cartel uh that I've had an |
| 2378s | awesome time with some of these people |
| 2380s | by the way I disagree with vehemently |
| 2382s | about many aspects of real life but we |
| 2384s | come together when we play this fun game |
| 2386s | together and it is a lot of fun okay and |
| 2389s | I would say that SC is kind of an |
| 2392s | interesting org and it's interesting for |
| 2393s | a couple of reasons right we're thought |
| 2396s | of as you know low SEC pirate scum |
| 2400s | probably |
| 2401s | uh what we actually do is we run this |
| 2404s | Poco Empire so we earn large numbers of |
| 2406s | player own Customs officers and we'll |
| 2408s | fight you for them basically we'll fight |
| 2410s | you for them wherever they are and we'll |
| 2412s | also buy them from you so if you've got |
| 2413s | a poker that you don't want just come |
| 2415s | and see this guy here in the gray in the |
| 2417s | gray top okay and we'll try and |
| 2419s | negotiate on it we'll buy them we've got |
| 2420s | thousands and we want to collect we want |
| 2422s | to collect more we love them they don't |
| 2423s | actually make that much revenue but they |
| 2424s | sure as hell make a lot of content |
| 2426s | that's what we're here for right |
| 2429s | uh other characteristic of Shadow cartel |
| 2432s | despite that kind of you know low SEC |
| 2433s | pirate scum thing is uh we're actually |
| 2436s | quite honorable |
| 2437s | we know we don't switch sides in fights |
| 2439s | we're quite careful about managing our |
| 2441s | standings and we always adhere to our |
| 2443s | blue list so I would say that is |
| 2445s | something that actually makes our |
| 2446s | alliance kind of it feels a bit |
| 2449s | different when you're inside it it's not |
| 2450s | actually like backstabbing scamming |
| 2453s | cheating which is you know an aspect of |
| 2455s | the game which is present it's not |
| 2457s | really like that it's kind of different |
| 2458s | and I actually really enjoy I really |
| 2460s | enjoy playing playing with this group of |
| 2461s | guys |
| 2463s | okay uh so what can I say look has |
| 2465s | played a big part in my journey okay I |
| 2468s | don't think that I would have been able |
| 2469s | to make as many bad decisions in the |
| 2471s | game if it wasn't for my look or rather |
| 2473s | my former Court mates look with the t2 |
| 2476s | BPO it's certainly gifted a lot of |
| 2478s | people a lot of very shiny kill males |
| 2480s | over the years uh having said that also |
| 2483s | do a lot of Pi and I would say just |
| 2485s | watching that previous presentation with |
| 2487s | the spreadsheets my only Adventure in |
| 2490s | spreadsheets for Eve has been a tool |
| 2491s | that I made to calculate pi chain |
| 2493s | profitability so you know I do subscribe |
| 2496s | to spreadsheets in space despite my real |
| 2499s | desire to spend most of my time blowing |
| 2501s | stuff up |
| 2509s | the other thing I'd say which I think |
| 2510s | has been a big factor we were talking |
| 2512s | about this last night actually uh I've |
| 2514s | never been in a leadership role I've |
| 2515s | been in a leadership role in other games |
| 2517s | but I've never been in a leadership role |
| 2518s | in Eve I actually think that that's |
| 2520s | contributed to its longevity I think if |
| 2522s | I was doing what I do at work which is |
| 2523s | like managing people uh I don't think it |
| 2526s | would be fun I like the fact that it's |
| 2527s | like simple line member I can be relied |
| 2529s | on to press F1 |
| 2531s | or uh rep something that needs repping |
| 2534s | even if I'm running three or three logic |
| 2535s | characters I can still like do that |
| 2537s | quite proficiently Dan kindly told me |
| 2539s | last night that he trusted me to run |
| 2540s | multiple logic logic characters also |
| 2542s | told me it doesn't actually trust |
| 2543s | everybody else in the alliance to do |
| 2545s | that which I thought was kind of funny |
| 2546s | uh so I can do that stuff kind of well |
| 2548s | but I don't subscribe to leadership |
| 2550s | roles uh |
| 2553s | I don't subscribe to leadership roles in |
| 2555s | this game and I don't think I ever will |
| 2556s | for me it's like be a line member have |
| 2558s | fun you know do my own thing uh that's |
| 2561s | it I think that's why I enjoyed it so |
| 2562s | much I got kind of emotional when I |
| 2563s | wrote this back in May uh it actually |
| 2566s | got kind of emotional presenting a bit |
| 2567s | of it today as well which is kind of |
| 2569s | weird so I uh I hope you liked it |
| 2572s | [Applause] |
| 2586s | questions I'll take feedback as well |
| 2589s | foreign |
| 2593s | before my time but yeah I think so |
| 2595s | yeah |
| 2602s | so my question |
| 2608s | it's the Anaconda mines I still have |
| 2610s | some of those |
| 2612s | in my hangar but I've never seen them |
| 2614s | used even in those early days I've never |
| 2616s | seen them used |
| 2621s | really okay interesting |
| 2624s | so you were in high circum the mine was |
| 2626s | in that's a good feature they should |
| 2628s | bring that back |
| 2629s | [Laughter] |
| 2633s | okay anybody else do you |
| 2639s | would I take the t2 bpos if I could I |
| 2641s | wouldn't because I Matt the guy that I |
| 2643s | mentioned who kind of orchestrated all |
| 2645s | that I do know him when I was on |
| 2646s | Facebook and I deleted my account a long |
| 2648s | time ago but when I was on Facebook we |
| 2650s | used to like talk uh so no I definitely |
| 2653s | wouldn't even |
| 2654s | honor right I actually consider it quite |
| 2656s | important I don't think I don't think |
| 2657s | I'd steal them no |
| 2659s | even if it meant I'd be able to get in |
| 2660s | PC game you know as the newest biggest |
| 2663s | double Crosser in Eve I probably still |
| 2664s | wouldn't do it |
| 2666s | I don't think it was addressed uh what |
| 2669s | brought you to pick Evan Ryan in the |
| 2671s | first place yeah well I was playing as I |
| 2673s | said another MMO space MMO called Earth |
| 2676s | and Beyond |
| 2678s | uh which I understand is actually |
| 2680s | available through some sort of emulation |
| 2682s | system now so if you want to look at |
| 2683s | Earth and Beyond somebody's taking the |
| 2686s | IP which you know is abandoned long |
| 2688s | abandoned it actually shut down I think |
| 2690s | in 2005. |
| 2692s | four and I think it was killed mostly by |
| 2694s | people migrating to it frankly I think |
| 2696s | that's a thing that sort of put the |
| 2697s | final nail in the coffin for that I was |
| 2699s | playing that uh you know I guess I'm |
| 2701s | interested in sci-fi uh there was |
| 2704s | another part in this talk that I took |
| 2705s | out you know uh which I'll just talk |
| 2707s | about really quickly |
| 2710s | uh uh it's kind of weird to talk about |
| 2712s | this |
| 2713s | I'm kind of a detail-orientated person |
| 2717s | the more complicated something is |
| 2720s | the more I'll get into it okay to an |
| 2722s | unhealthy extent sometimes you know I |
| 2725s | mean I've definitely got ASD |
| 2727s | characteristics autistic Spectrum |
| 2728s | Disorder characteristics because |
| 2730s | that's such a strong indicator of that |
| 2732s | and I think the thing that got me with |
| 2734s | uh with Eve is just and it's you know |
| 2737s | over time even more layers have been put |
| 2739s | on right it's systems on top of systems |
| 2741s | on top of systems I just find it |
| 2743s | fascinating really |
| 2750s | foreign |
| 2752s | are there any aspects of your experience |
| 2753s | in Eve that have colored the rest of |
| 2756s | your life |
| 2758s | I mean I've I was in leadership roles in |
| 2761s | my work way before I got into it and |
| 2764s | maybe the biggest |
| 2765s | thing is you know appreciating |
| 2768s | how |
| 2770s | in order to be successful everybody |
| 2772s | needs to pull their weight right if |
| 2773s | you've got people in a team that are |
| 2776s | actively working against the objective |
| 2778s | or aren't competent enough to advance |
| 2780s | the goal then that's every bit as |
| 2784s | present in this game is is in real life |
| 2786s | so I guess that's a factor and I guess |
| 2788s | the other one is like internationalism |
| 2790s | you know it's I mean how many countries |
| 2792s | are represented in this room I have no |
| 2793s | idea does anybody from the Americas here |
| 2796s | Middle East or Israel |
| 2799s | further away than that Asia |
| 2801s | so you know we've got people in our |
| 2803s | Co-op from China quite a few of them a |
| 2805s | lot of people from the US I really like |
| 2806s | that kind of international aspect of it |
| 2808s | as well I think it's good to get to |
| 2810s | understand people that have got |
| 2811s | differing viewpoints differing cultures |
| 2813s | different political viewpoints I think |
| 2814s | it's really an interesting part of the |
| 2816s | game as well but that could be said for |
| 2817s | any MMO right with a strong Community |
| 2819s | like this I guess the other thing that's |
| 2820s | good about the game is I'm older right I |
| 2823s | started playing when I was 29 and uh I'm |
| 2825s | 50 in a few weeks uh there's some people |
| 2828s | in my alliance |
| 2830s | that were seven when I started there's |
| 2832s | one person in my alliance he was minus |
| 2835s | five so I'm not even sure if his parents |
| 2836s | had got together when I started playing |
| 2838s | this game uh so you've got that as well |
| 2841s | it's like you know a bit of instant |
| 2842s | generational stuff as well I think in |
| 2843s | playlist |
| 2849s | yeah that's it yeah yeah yeah I think |
| 2852s | it's great and I hope it goes on a lot |
| 2854s | more maybe I'll come back in 10 years |
| 2856s | and you know talk about years 20 to 30 |
| 2858s | that'd be a fun talk to do |
| 2868s | is there any event that during that |
| 2871s | happened during your uh breaks that you |
| 2874s | really feel that uh that you wish you |
| 2877s | could have taken part in I wish I'd I |
| 2879s | mean I've you know heard mixed reviews |
| 2880s | on the triglavian storyline and you know |
| 2883s | a lot of people are critical of its |
| 2884s | perceived abandonment |
| 2886s | uh I didn't see that and would like to |
| 2888s | have seen it when I got back there's a |
| 2889s | system close to our home system called |
| 2891s | ignabana which was a high SEC border |
| 2893s | system it's gone now and it's in trick |
| 2894s | space and uh we got the pokers before it |
| 2897s | flipped by the way so we kept we kept |
| 2899s | them even though it's in tricks both uh |
| 2901s | so I guess I would have liked to have |
| 2903s | seen that you know I would like to have |
| 2904s | seen more of that event |
| 2907s | yeah what are some other events that |
| 2909s | I've missed I guess could be a question |
| 2912s | no I don't think so |
| 2915s | yeah but I mean |
| 2918s | that was a that was an attempt by a few |
| 2921s | Null Sec alliances to destroy everything |
| 2924s | yeah in juta right yeah I'd like to have |
| 2925s | seen that yeah I don't go there very |
| 2927s | often because like all my Charizard neg |
| 2929s | sex dates you know I've got other |
| 2931s | characters that go there but they're not |
| 2932s | these main characters |
| 2934s | that's all the time we have okay thanks |
| 2937s | everybody |
| 2937s | [Applause] |