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18s | good morning New Eden I just have bright |
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22s | lights I can't really see you all so oh |
24s | good to know |
28s | I'm dunk tinkle with brave newbies and |
31s | who do you fly with all right that was |
35s | pathetic that was pathetic let's let's |
37s | try that again |
38s | hi I'm dunk tinkle with brave newbies |
41s | who do you fly with there there you go |
46s | that's some pride all right now people |
48s | out in twitch chat I see you somewhere |
50s | out there twitch chat people |
51s | I'm dunk tinkle with brave newbies who |
54s | do you fly with and that's your cue to |
56s | type into twitch chat like who you fly |
58s | with so when I play this back later I |
61s | want to see just a scroll of things |
63s | meaning through alright my talk is how |
66s | to lead without being the CEO so really |
70s | why am I giving this talk what's it all |
73s | about and the truth is that when things |
76s | fail and go wrong and Eve it's rarely a |
78s | single battle it's rarely a single |
80s | betrayal it is almost always a failure |
83s | of morale a failure of people to come |
86s | and log into the game it's really easy |
88s | when stuff's going sideways and you sit |
90s | down at your computer at night and you |
92s | go don't want to log in and deal with |
94s | all that crap or do I want to go play |
96s | overwatch or something like that |
98s | and so what I'm going to talk about is |
100s | how you maintain morale there's only |
102s | usually one CEO and that person is |
104s | usually busy doing a lot of other stuff |
106s | so how can you is the average line |
107s | member help now the stuff I'm going to |
111s | talk about is not brand new stuff it |
112s | shouldn't be super remarkable its |
114s | standard kind of management tools and |
116s | techniques that people have been using |
117s | for thousands of years here's a famous |
120s | FC talking about it probably about 2000 |
122s | years ago now some people may say that |
126s | you know this isn't really important as |
129s | important as how many supers and Titans |
130s | and all that that you have but I'll |
132s | point out a few examples |
134s | you can look at a couple years ago in |
136s | the big war the goons Imperium were |
138s | basically kicked out of the north and |
141s | that was a terrible defeat for them but |
144s | the Mitanni was able to maintain their |
146s | morale rally them around a cause and now |
149s | two years later they are the most |
151s | powerful goon hammer that he promised |
153s | that would get formed in the game and |
155s | that's a triumph of morale |
157s | it's a tramp of focus and ethos and |
159s | effort |
160s | same thing with triumvirate triumvirate |
161s | got kicked out of their space they |
164s | didn't lose faith they kept their morale |
165s | up and then they rallied back and kicked |
167s | out what was the unkillable drf or |
169s | whatever the official name is so this |
171s | stuff really matters in the game so what |
176s | I'm gonna talk about as much as I love |
177s | spreadsheets has nothing to do with |
179s | spreadsheets it has to do with these |
181s | soft skills these skills that don't |
182s | always come easy to people people who |
185s | work with computers a lot work in tech |
186s | are very comfortable with rules and |
188s | exactitude and all that kind of stuff |
190s | but when you're dealing with people it's |
192s | different you have to be emotional you |
194s | have to tap into those skills as well so |
198s | you may ask Who am I I've been playing |
200s | for about 10 years now I played in high |
202s | sec I was at the court there for a while |
204s | until the husband-wife leaders of it got |
207s | divorced which wrecked the Corp and then |
210s | I did a faction warfare Hale type his |
212s | half and then I joined brave newbies |
215s | about five days after it formed and I've |
217s | been them ever since I'm not the CEO of |
219s | rave newbies although I get confused |
221s | with that from time to time that's a |
223s | video of my carrier getting doomsday by |
225s | Black Legion and fountain and then in |
230s | it's a great video it's like Black |
233s | Legion he calls a bluff and there's my |
235s | carrier getting doomsday with captioning |
237s | in real life shockingly I'm a technology |
240s | executive I work with what we call |
243s | creative executives which was basically |
245s | the real-world equivalent of FCS you |
247s | know those people that ask for things I |
249s | want it right now I want the way I want |
251s | it and they're mad all the time so you |
253s | deal with those kind of people and then |
254s | I manage quote tech people which a lot |
257s | of Eve players fall into that category |
259s | of they like very specific things they |
261s | want to do and other things that are |
263s | very similar to what Eve has to do and |
265s | again at work |
267s | not the CEO that would be very nice so |
271s | before I get really rolling a few things |
273s | about this your mileage is gonna vary |
275s | with what I talk about here it doesn't |
278s | work for every corporate culture some |
281s | groups are so focused have a singular |
282s | ethos that they don't really care about |
284s | this kind of stuff and that's fine it |
285s | works for them everything I say you have |
287s | to adjust for the way your world works |
290s | your personal style matters I as you can |
293s | tell probably a little more extroverted |
295s | than the average person you've seen some |
297s | of my videos and stuff like that so my |
299s | style is a little more over the top if |
301s | you're not as extroverted a little more |
303s | introverted you're gonna have a |
304s | different style don't try to be |
306s | something you're not |
307s | because authenticity and the way you |
308s | talk to people is absolutely critical if |
311s | people think you're faking something or |
313s | saying something's not true it doesn't |
315s | matter what you're saying it's how you |
316s | say things that matter to people and |
319s | then you have to know that there are |
321s | some people you cannot reach there are |
324s | people who just for whatever reason |
326s | aren't gonna respond to these techniques |
328s | they can be dealing with something in |
330s | there in the real life that's just too |
332s | hard they can just have bad personality |
334s | and or they're just not a good fit for |
336s | what your group is of all about so don't |
340s | be afraid like if you do your best and |
342s | then they still leave or they're still |
343s | getting mad and still get banned or |
344s | whatever it is don't take it personally |
347s | so I like to do a tldr on this so if |
350s | you're not liking what I'm talking about |
352s | you can leave immediately so what I'm |
354s | gonna talk about is really three simple |
356s | things that you can do to make sure that |
358s | people that you can keep the morale up |
360s | you listen to people you find out |
363s | actually what's going on you act you do |
365s | things to help the people in the group |
368s | feel better about the group and then you |
370s | lead which is basically providing a good |
372s | example leading by examples most |
374s | powerful thing leaders do you know no |
377s | one wants to see that do what I say not |
379s | what I do |
380s | that's a real demoralize er for a lot of |
382s | people so let's talk about listening |
386s | I'll call it lurking here and basically |
389s | you need to hear what is going on in |
391s | your group if you are talking if you're |
394s | rambling if you're disconnected you're |
397s | not gonna know what people are actually |
398s | talking about so I prefer to lurk I mean |
401s | all the time I'm usually doing something |
403s | disconnected from what they're talking |
404s | about make an industry or something like |
406s | that but when people start to complain |
408s | about something hey my SRP didn't come |
410s | through or what's with this new doctrine |
413s | I'm hearing it what they're actually |
414s | saying and the key thing to listening is |
418s | shutting up there's a lot of people and |
421s | Eve who like to talk an awful lot in |
423s | calm |
425s | and make their opinion very widely known |
427s | and that's okay for some people but if |
429s | you want to understand what people are |
431s | concerned about you need to shut up and |
434s | listen and resist the urge to chime in |
437s | every thirty seconds with your opinion |
439s | on it because that'll change what |
441s | they're talking about |
444s | another thing about listening is it's |
447s | not just being quiet all the time I'm |
449s | gonna grab some drink here what's called |
455s | active listening is a key tool you can |
457s | use when somebody has a problem you want |
460s | to talk to them you want to hear what |
462s | they have to say know what they're |
464s | saying and then be able to ask a |
466s | question for clarity to show them you're |
467s | paying attention to what they said and |
470s | then very importantly you can reflect |
472s | back what they just said to you right I |
475s | understand that you're very upset that |
477s | we don't run an armored battleship |
478s | doctrine yep those look very cool but |
481s | we're a shield alliance I understand |
483s | what you're talking about |
484s | now you don't have to fix their problem |
486s | you don't have to make it better you |
488s | don't have to offer a solution if to |
490s | tell them how to fit their ship all |
491s | people mainly want to do is be heard a |
494s | lot of times all people want to do is |
497s | vent and if you can listen to someone |
499s | vent and not like take it personally if |
502s | you can let people have their say they |
505s | just want to get it off their chest |
506s | right why did you let my Rourke wall die |
508s | you know those kind of things happen and |
511s | they just want to get it off and for a |
512s | lot of people they don't even want it |
514s | fixed they don't even want the problem |
515s | repaired all they want is a chance to |
518s | say their feelings to let that out and |
521s | when you're sitting by yourself in a |
522s | room playing a computer game and you're |
524s | frustrated there's no one to yell at in |
526s | your room with you so if you can be that |
528s | person that lets some vent it's gonna |
529s | let them get back in the flow of the |
530s | game that much easier |
534s | another time I recommend you stop |
537s | shutting up and start talking is to |
538s | squash drama drama leads to low morale |
541s | drama leads to all kinds of problems in |
543s | the game and so there's a lot of ways to |
546s | do this if you think the only way to |
548s | squash drama is to chime up and beat the |
551s | person down verbally or type a lot and |
553s | call or type a lot in your discord or |
555s | slag that's not the case often times you |
558s | want drama to go away just like that |
560s | whole you know the movie squirrel you |
562s | want people to be distracted so there's |
564s | a lot of ways to do that |
565s | some people use humor some people use |
568s | dragons someone to another place and |
569s | comms and saying hey I really want to |
571s | hear more about why you're upset that we |
573s | aren't you know running armored supers |
575s | instead of shield supers or whatever |
577s | their concern is take them out of it or |
579s | I think you understand why you think |
582s | this is all a scam to make the |
584s | leadership have more plaques but let's |
586s | hear what you have to say you want to |
587s | squash drama before it spins up because |
589s | if you haven't noticed he was a game |
592s | with a lot of tin foil in it and people |
594s | love it go look at our eve today he's |
596s | like the freakin tinfoil central alright |
602s | the next thing to talk about is acting |
604s | what can you do and a lot of this is |
606s | really the basic stuff these are doing |
608s | small favors for people that know that |
611s | you give a crap about them lighting a |
614s | sign o for someone makes a huge |
616s | difference to them for a lot of people |
617s | these capital ships are a huge |
619s | investment of their time and resources |
621s | they want to be careful with it they |
623s | want somebody who like takes time out of |
625s | their thing to light a sino forum or |
627s | provide boosts on a mining operation |
629s | you're not gonna make a whole bunch of |
631s | extra money because you're the boosting |
632s | ship but those people will and if you're |
634s | that new player in a venture and your |
636s | output just got increased by 20% because |
639s | someone showed up in a porpoise you're |
641s | gonna remember that you're gonna |
642s | remember that that part 'add flying logy |
647s | helps the market is a huge thing if |
649s | there are modules on the market people |
651s | are happy when they can't get what they |
652s | need they're unhappy so you know this |
656s | assumes you have some money you have a |
657s | little resource you have some experience |
659s | but if you can supply markets even or |
661s | put fitted ships on contracts those |
663s | things are huge morale boosters to |
665s | people because they feel that somebody |
667s | somebody put some energy in and they can |
669s | participate in that another thing I want |
673s | to talk about is acting privately and to |
677s | talk about that I'll talk about social |
680s | signaling so most people here on the |
682s | Facebook's the Twitter's the instagrams |
684s | all that kind of stuff and you see a lot |
686s | of this where someone professes how |
687s | outraged they are or how supportive they |
689s | are and you realize they're they're |
692s | putting that up there because they |
693s | believe that but they're also putting |
694s | that up there so they show other people |
696s | their virtue how they feel about a topic |
698s | and that happens in these human |
700s | relations as well when you someone loses |
703s | ship and you very publicly and |
705s | dramatically say I the beneficial person |
708s | very publicly will give you your |
710s | replacement hurricane people are |
712s | appreciative of that they do they do |
713s | appreciate that you gave them a |
716s | hurricane but they also realize because |
718s | we're humans and we know the way humans |
720s | work that part of that is you showing |
722s | off how magnanimous and generous you are |
723s | to other people and people go okay I get |
727s | that appreciate it but they know that |
729s | part of the reason is you want to show |
731s | off that you were a generous person if |
733s | you do these things privately instead of |
735s | very publicly the person knows innately |
738s | that you were doing that specifically |
741s | and solely for that one person's benefit |
743s | you're not doing it to beget publicly |
745s | known to get recognition or any of those |
747s | things and it sends a much more personal |
750s | signal to that person that you care |
752s | about that individual does that make |
755s | sense at all and so again it's a subtle |
758s | thing and it kind of goes against the |
760s | kind of current paradigm of make |
762s | everything public and put everything out |
764s | on social media and make it in your |
765s | columns and dis cords of all the things |
767s | you've done but if your intent really |
769s | truly is to keep morale up and create |
772s | those individual bonds between people in |
775s | the group doing things privately matters |
778s | a tremendous amount more than doing |
780s | things publicly and it seems |
782s | counterintuitive but that's really how |
784s | you form those permanent bonds going |
786s | forward and then the other thing I'll |
792s | talk about is praise praise is very rare |
794s | commodity in Eve most of the things |
797s | people talk about or failures or they're |
799s | making fun of something or their memeing |
800s | on |
801s | and that's all good that's part of our |
803s | culture but if you want to motivate |
805s | people and get people to adhere to your |
807s | ethos to adhere to your group hearing |
810s | the words publicly said about how good |
812s | somebody did it something you hear a lot |
814s | of this at the end of a fleet thanks |
816s | epsy thanks 'fc thanks I've seen thanks |
818s | epsy but there's a lot of people that |
819s | went into making those fleets happen the |
821s | person who let the sino or the scout who |
823s | went gate to gate and got blown up two |
826s | jumps before the actual fight happened |
828s | it didn't get to participate in the |
829s | fight but if they weren't scouting you |
831s | wouldn't have the fight there's a lot of |
833s | things people do that deserve praise and |
835s | the more you can single someone out and |
838s | say hey so-and-so did a great job with |
840s | that it makes them feel fantastic |
842s | everyone likes to see their name in |
844s | lights everyone wants to hear that |
846s | they're the hero of the story and so |
848s | when you can praise someone it makes a |
850s | big difference and then again I'll come |
854s | back to squashing drama if you're gonna |
855s | do these things if you're gonna talk you |
858s | have to speak clearly and with |
860s | authenticity you can't spin people you |
864s | can try but you're not going to get the |
866s | same effect because humans are the best |
868s | detectors of on the planet and |
870s | if you're getting spun you know you're |
873s | getting spun and it kind of like why are |
874s | they spinning this so it's okay to say |
877s | no we didn't win the fight we didn't hit |
879s | the objective we didn't win the is score |
882s | we lost this fight but we had fun better |
885s | luck next time |
886s | no one wants to be bullshitted on these |
888s | kind of things so if you're gonna try |
889s | and squash drama you have to come from a |
891s | place of authenticity and truthfulness |
893s | otherwise people will see through it in |
895s | a second and they'll start to wonder why |
897s | why is my leadership lying to me and |
900s | when that thing gets infected in |
902s | people's heads it's very hard to get |
905s | that out let's talk about leading for a |
908s | little bit the first thing you can do |
911s | and it doesn't come naturally to a lot |
913s | of youth players is avoiding negativity |
914s | it is very easy to poke holes in |
917s | everything again check our eve if you |
920s | want to keep morale up and lead you have |
924s | to offer solutions you have to be |
925s | positive you have to have an outlook |
927s | that isn't unrealistic but it's |
929s | something that is like we'll make the |
930s | best of this or you have to find a way |
932s | to avoid being debbie |
934s | downer and it doesn't come easy because |
938s | we're a cynical group that play Eve |
939s | we're in this grim dark universe but |
942s | again if you want morale up if you want |
944s | people to believe in your group if you |
945s | want people to log in and do things you |
949s | have to keep them thinking positive |
951s | about not just your group but the game |
954s | now every group has their own ethos and |
956s | by that I mean they're their raison |
958s | d'être if you're in a wing span it's |
960s | about to Peter delivery right if you're |
965s | in one of the high second Kuragin groups |
967s | it's all about that maximizing that it's |
969s | per hour if you are in null sac and it's |
972s | solve warfare that you're after and |
974s | you're a capital gameplay person it's |
976s | all about when do I get that chance to |
977s | drop so you have to lead by example so |
981s | if you're a group that's all about |
983s | delivering torpedoes in null in the |
985s | wormholes to people then you better be |
988s | out there delivering some torpedoes |
989s | no one wants someone to who sits on the |
992s | sidelines and doesn't participate |
994s | doesn't know what the group is about |
995s | acting and doing things in the in the |
998s | game all of the things I've talked about |
1002s | here as the people from brave can attest |
1004s | I think I have broken every single one |
1007s | of the things that I've talked about |
1008s | here there are some epic dunk grants on |
1012s | probably SoundCloud here of me getting |
1014s | extremely heated and screaming at people |
1016s | where I'm getting told to chill out and |
1020s | I'm not happy that I've done that but |
1022s | I'm a real person and I've done it and |
1023s | you're gonna get angry in this game |
1025s | you're gonna get angry at things if you |
1028s | as someone who has a position of kind of |
1031s | respect or authority in a group you get |
1033s | angry and you start getting negative and |
1035s | you start slamming people getting your |
1038s | respect level and all that back up and |
1041s | getting the group feeling back up after |
1043s | you've done that is a much harder slope |
1044s | it's ten times harder to build respect |
1046s | than it is to destroy it so it's |
1049s | difficult but it'll destroy your |
1050s | reputation in one fleet there's a lot of |
1052s | lot of lot of fleet commanders are known |
1054s | for their anger and singular fleets it |
1056s | gets sniped out of context and again |
1058s | posted to Reddit and then that's the |
1061s | paradigm people think about them so be |
1063s | careful with your anger for me when I |
1066s | get really angry I set the |
1068s | phones down I go walk outside walk |
1070s | around the block and I don't come in |
1072s | until I hear ten different bird calls |
1074s | outside and that takes me a little bit |
1076s | of time but why the time I get back I'm |
1078s | not thinking about Eve anymore I'm |
1080s | thinking about why do those birds sound |
1081s | so much alike so let's talk about making |
1087s | things they talk about content in this |
1090s | game and content creators in this game |
1091s | and basically it's not just about fights |
1095s | it's events |
1096s | it's the secret santa stuff and one time |
1099s | of the year it can be Thunder domes at |
1103s | the Sun you can make propaganda I like |
1106s | to make swag as you some how you know |
1108s | and that makes a difference to people |
1110s | people want to log in and have something |
1112s | going on it could be a trivia contest in |
1114s | your slacker discord making anything |
1116s | that keep people engaged it doesn't |
1118s | always have to be I'm gonna FC a fight |
1121s | let's talk about propaganda mascots and |
1125s | memes are some of the most powerful |
1127s | things in our community right now when |
1130s | you see these icons you instantly know |
1134s | who they are you know what they stand |
1136s | for you know their players you know the |
1139s | fights they've been in you have it you |
1141s | have a feeling about those things and |
1143s | that's a powerful thing if your group |
1146s | doesn't have something that you can |
1147s | rally around as an icon you're missing |
1150s | out because as we know in the real world |
1152s | and in eve flags symbols these are some |
1155s | of the most powerful things in human |
1157s | society to keep people motivated and |
1159s | feel that they have allegiance to if you |
1163s | go to these like there's the PL flag |
1165s | right there you go to board fort there's |
1167s | literally gigantic dinosaurs walking |
1169s | around there's the Horde flag over there |
1171s | these are powerful things in even if |
1174s | your group doesn't have one or doesn't |
1176s | have a way to identify themselves you're |
1179s | not helping yourself but it's a |
1181s | two-edged sword mascots and memes can |
1186s | work both ways they can inspire you see |
1189s | the one on the right that's a very |
1190s | inspiring thing that was made probably |
1192s | two years ago the people in Braves still |
1195s | talk about that image because it was so |
1197s | powerful to our group the one on the far |
1200s | left |
1201s | definitely they can take your means your |
1204s | images your mascots and turn the |
1206s | narrative against your group it can make |
1209s | the narrative of the attacker feel |
1211s | fantastic look what we're doing we're |
1213s | knocking open a goddamn pinata and if |
1216s | you're in the pinata groove that sucks |
1218s | to see that stuff and all it takes is |
1220s | every day like five people decide I'm |
1222s | not gonna log in on one side or a I'm |
1224s | gonna log in another side because I |
1226s | don't like getting made fun of this |
1228s | stuff is powerful stuff and if you're |
1230s | not paying attention you're not |
1232s | protecting your group so again if you |
1236s | you don't want to get too drawn into |
1238s | this stuff because it can go really |
1239s | sideways on you but if you're not paying |
1241s | some attention to this and understanding |
1243s | the power of mascots means narratives |
1246s | again you're not doing your group of |
1248s | service so I'm gonna wrap up here this |
1253s | is my recap so again this stuff again is |
1255s | not rocket science even though max is |
1257s | here somewhere this stuff is standard |
1260s | kind of management stuff but putting it |
1262s | into the eve context listening to what's |
1265s | going on in your group knowing what the |
1267s | issues are knowing what has to be |
1268s | addressed that you can whisper in the |
1270s | ear of the CEO like you need to make a |
1272s | goddamn state of the Alliance statement |
1274s | right so and then do things do things to |
1283s | help people again you don't want to just |
1284s | sit and be that paper tiger that's just |
1286s | typing endlessly and saying how other |
1289s | people should do stuff when people see |
1291s | you doing the work they know well if |
1293s | that person could do the work I can |
1294s | carry some of the load too and then |
1297s | leading by example is probably the most |
1298s | powerful thing if you can't reinforce |
1301s | the ethos of your group by walking the |
1304s | walk you're not helping again so I don't |
1309s | know where I'm on time I hope that |
1311s | didn't go too fast this is how you get a |
1313s | hold of me if you have questions and I |
1315s | don't know if anybody in the group now |
1316s | has questions I don't know where we are |
1317s | in time it just has five minutes |
1324s | no questions go ahead |
1332s | no it's materal the question is is am i |
1340s | running for CSM and so if you aren't |
1350s | aware I made a video to make this very |
1351s | clear that I was not running for CSM I |
1354s | apparently have failed in that video to |
1356s | make it clear my position any other |
1365s | questions |
1369s | well I that would be hilarious but that |
1374s | would be up to CCP this is trying to |
1379s | probably lights in my face I feel like |
1381s | I'm being interrogated Selene what can |
1383s | you the lowest time in E well that's a |
1392s | tie so that the question was what's the |
1394s | lowest and highest time in Eve the |
1396s | lowest time in Eve was probably two |
1399s | moments one was the night of the |
1402s | infamous coup I went to bed and didn't |
1407s | know any of this drama was happening it |
1409s | happened in the middle of night I woke |
1410s | up it's like 5:30 in the morning because |
1412s | I'm an old man I wake up at the crack of |
1414s | dawn and everything's a flame right SLAC |
1418s | forums Skype is exploded the group has |
1422s | been cooed there's a new alliance leader |
1424s | I'm being asked by both sides to |
1427s | represent them inside with them some |
1429s | people are offering me I'm gonna be CEO |
1431s | of brave to settle everything down and I |
1434s | got to go to work in two hours and so I |
1438s | did at the time I didn't follow my rules |
1440s | here and I just said I'm gonna close the |
1443s | computer and I'm gonna go to work and |
1446s | I'm gonna listen and see what happens |
1448s | during the day the other bad time was |
1450s | when we got kicked out a fountain and |
1452s | had Capitals there and we had lost Jay v |
1455s | tach I think is the system that's |
1457s | the bottleneck system in fountain and me |
1461s | and Q who was the IT director at the |
1463s | time we had to jump our capitals out to |
1466s | not stations but to basically blind Sai |
1468s | nose and deep safes and waiting for |
1471s | hours so the system was absolutely clear |
1473s | and setting everything up with a |
1474s | self-destruct timer so there was five |
1476s | seconds to sign oullette before the |
1478s | thing went away landing and destroying |
1480s | the rack and cloaking up man my |
1483s | sphincter had never been tighter than |
1485s | that and I said I said this isn't fun |
1488s | man we got to do something else than |
1489s | this so that was a bad moment the best |
1492s | moment is very easy just happened |
1495s | recently some of you may have been there |
1496s | the Battle of you LAX happened and after |
1501s | literally five years of fighting PL and |
1504s | I love the pl guys they know that I got |
1508s | to sit in a Titan and doomsday and kill |
1511s | a PL tighten and then camp them in for |
1515s | almost a week now now I'm sure this is |
1522s | probably going to be snipped and put |
1524s | into PL form and they're gonna say well |
1526s | we now got to go on dunk but to be |
1529s | honest to have the revenge and a lot of |
1532s | groups have times a time where they've |
1534s | lost a lot come back and gone revenge |
1536s | against the people that they feel have |
1537s | wronged them that is a sweet sweet |
1540s | feeling so hope that answers your |
1543s | question all right any other questions |
1548s | again I it says I have five minutes but |
1551s | I don't know about that are there any |
1553s | questions in twitch the twitch people's |
1557s | always have something to say yeah all |
1564s | right well then I think I'll wrap it up |
1565s | thank you all I'm gonna go have a drink |
1567s | now |
1568s | [Applause] |