Alliance Tournament XX | Day 2 | EVE Online Dev Tracker

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3s	welcome back ladies and gentlemen to
6s	Alliance tournament 20 I am CCP overload
9s	I am joined once again by mystical might
10s	and blackbart pirate and we're here on
12s	day two of four of our internet
15s	explosions of spaceships and I am
17s	looking forward to seeing many more of
18s	them go pop hopefully some more
20s	expensive ones we all love to see
21s	expensive kill Mills um we lost three
23s	teams yesterday we did salutations and
25s	goodbye but we lost them they all went
27s	out there was elimination matches the
28s	last three matches of the day uh some
31s	great teams went out tempas cive was
32s	probably a bit of an upset no one
34s	expected them to go 0 and two and out I
36s	don't think um but we are going to be
37s	starting today with more elimination
39s	matches these matches that you're going
41s	to see the losers go home like that's
43s	said for them the winners stay in they
45s	begin the skin run the skin run Strat
47s	which is what fraternity are are
49s	definitely going for this this time
50s	around last year's defending Champions
52s	they are joining uh these other teams in
54s	this low bracket Mr Kai any highlights
56s	from yesterday you really wanted to talk
57s	about uh my team is still in so that is
60s	fantastic I love that uh I think we had
63s	the 1- nil match as well with white
65s	squall that was I think the most
67s	exciting match that we had yesterday not
69s	you know because we saw lots of
71s	explosions but because we didn't see any
73s	explosions that was fantastic yeah that
75s	was actually a very interesting match um
77s	because not only was it I think the
79s	first one nil victory in Alliance tman
81s	history um white squall have advanced
84s	through the winners bracket they're now
85s	definitely top 24 H they haven't killed
87s	a single ship nor have they lost the
89s	single ship they literally done nothing
91s	uh they're going for the peaceful run I
93s	think just trying to be full pacifist
95s	get all the way through kill nothing
97s	kill no one be lose nothing just get
100s	through in technicalities bar any other
102s	any other good moments from yesterday um
104s	you know obviously the one was great
105s	because it was kind of think it was
107s	historical um honestly all the matches
109s	yesterday were really good there's a
110s	couple uh there's a couple sort of teams
111s	that we were uh kind of questioning I
114s	think on some of the various streams we
115s	were like oh I don't know if this is
116s	going to be good and like everyone's
117s	showing up it's been fantastic uh I did
120s	really like the second fraternity match
122s	mostly because I was sitting there
123s	watching him just being like come on
126s	come on guys I never doubted yeah uh I
129s	don't know about that one but uh yeah no
131s	it was just good stuff um fantastic
132s	matches I mean day one was great yep and
134s	we saw a lot of uh different ships being
136s	used yesterday and I believe we have a
137s	couple of Graphics uh which we can throw
139s	up which kind of show us which of the
141s	ships were more popular than the others
143s	um so looking at our most commonly
145s	brought ships in Alli tournament 20 so
147s	far on day one I can see the highest one
151s	was the ponx pontif effect obviously
152s	super uh super useful ship brings links
155s	uh obviously in your command Destroyer I
157s	did hear a rumor that someone has bought
158s	all the pones ineta which is kind of
160s	hilarious um so you know good job fa
162s	that was uh and then of course it's the
163s	Deacon and then number three armag get
166s	Navy issue very popular ship yesterday
168s	Mr your thoughts on this
171s	losers losers well I mean we could check
173s	the win loss as well in fact and we can
175s	see that it has W more often than it's
177s	lost the Armageddon Navy isue wins when
179s	fielded for 42 times and has lost 39
181s	times does it really count if you're
183s	flying omagad Navy issues into
184s	Armageddon Navy issues
187s	yes of course it can just yeah well okay
190s	fine they survive a bit less though but
192s	I mean I can see the usage in
193s	tournaments obviously has spiked very
195s	recently uh with the the Buffs a couple
197s	years ago before that it was uh I mean
199s	let's be honest it was hot garbage no
200s	one used it shout out to whatever Chads
202s	in Alliance tournament 7 brought them
205s	though uh they're basically the only
206s	people that have brought them in the
207s	last 15 years until Alliance tournament
209s	uh eight rate basically were some some
212s	gamers in Alliance tournament 7 don't
214s	know what was happening back then in
215s	ancient history but that's pretty cool
217s	um so yeah I'm expecting to see more
218s	Armageddon Navy issues perhaps less
220s	pontif effectes because there's not
221s	available unless you've already bought
223s	yours which you should do Market PVP is
225s	just part of EV on line uh so if you're
227s	not buying up your stuff before your
229s	matches that's the skill issue yeah well
232s	somebody what two billion isk someone
233s	had to pay for aonix allegedly like yeah
236s	well I mean welcome to Eve welcome to
239s	Eve I mean our first match of the day
241s	let's talk a quickly about that um I
244s	will just pull it up on the schedule uh
246s	so it is going to be no need loose face
249s	versus of essence so again elimination
251s	match Mr D what do you think about this
252s	match I think it's going to be quite
254s	exciting um I think that teams have had
258s	the first day to kind of settle in um
260s	they've had a bit of experience in the
261s	arena now so there's probably hopefully
263s	going to be less nerves when they're
264s	hitting grid and trying to make their
265s	decisions so hopefully that comes
268s	through in the decision making that
269s	we're going to be seeing on the grid
271s	from these two teams but you know
272s	someone has to go home um so they're
274s	going to be fighting for their
275s	tournament lives yeah and let's go to
277s	the arena and see which of these teams
279s	is going home which of them is
280s	continuing their run through Alliance
281s	tournament 20 let's go watch that
285s	now name is Ali Aris here with Wingnut
288s	cross and Welcome to our first match of
290s	the day we have no need loose face
292s	versus of essence of essence showing up
295s	here with the quote unquote pseudo
296s	Tinker comp they have three battleships
298s	those battleships are going to stick
299s	next to each other give each other cap
302s	so they can rep a whole bunch and tank
305s	this opposing side Wingnut what have no
307s	need loose face brought well they're
308s	going to need to tank that much because
310s	no new face went we are bringing the
311s	flag they've gone for Triple B as well
313s	all Cruisers and a lot of even bomber
316s	damage backing it up as well so this is
317s	going to be a lot of damage coming at
319s	them and also the ability to move so
321s	there's an old strategy with stinker
323s	bump and they've got the ships to do it
325s	yeah and one of the things that's going
326s	to be tough with this is the pseudo
328s	Tinker it relies on having these three
330s	battleships alive ready and all foced up
334s	next to each other you lose one and all
336s	of a sudden that starts to get really
338s	rough for that team and even another one
340s	as well is that the Nighthawk it's not
342s	as as important but also if you lose the
344s	links that the sutin loses a lot of tank
346s	as well so it's also a rather important
348s	ship every other ship
350s	exposable yep and though one of the
352s	advantages of this is you can shoot
354s	these uh three battleships the scorp
356s	navies and the Golem can shoot really
358s	far so they are able to reach black dog
361s	in the tyon fleet issue across the arena
363s	even before we've seen any damage coming
365s	from the no need team onto of essence
368s	someone has dropped a cargo container
369s	already here's the thing this team this
371s	is the one thing this year is different
372s	to for sutina there is two SS which
374s	could be loaded with cap boosters for
377s	the pseudo Tinker I already see a cargo
379s	contain so maybe yeah two cargo
380s	containers they're already dropping
381s	boosters I think it's not just two
383s	squalls it's two squalls in a badger we
386s	have the combat Badger back in the
387s	alliance tournament and uh they're going
390s	straight on for the logy of of essence
392s	one burst down one bantom left to go uh
395s	but the damage is coming back onto black
397s	dog and the typhoon Fleet issue the of
400s	essence team just trying to get
401s	everything that they can get before they
404s	lose too many of their critical ships
406s	indeed indeed it's going to be very
407s	curious to see if they can get through
408s	this Fleet typhoon it's going to be
409s	constant pressure Cruisers do not care
412s	but um once they get past that that
414s	means they can win but at the moment the
415s	fleet tyon tanking very well and the
416s	Cruisers struggle to hit basically
418s	anything else you're kind of stuck
420s	shooting battleships yep and the big
422s	thing with this is uh you normally when
425s	teams lose their Logistics that's a
427s	really big problem for them you lose
428s	your lodgy all of a sudden all you have
430s	left is your buffer thing is several the
433s	ship yeah yeah they've got beefy local
435s	tanks they've got cap boosters for days
438s	and cap transfers I think as well just
439s	to make it a little extra and really
441s	just nail in the wholeo aspect yeah we
444s	can see that the uh scorp navies they're
446s	all bundled up together if you look in
448s	close you'll be able to see those little
449s	gold old icons going back and forth
451s	that's the cap transfer and it's not
453s	just the scorp navies all these ships
456s	are huddled up next to each other and
458s	transferring cap which is going to be
459s	very important against the NES from the
460s	armagedon Navy issues and the typhoon
462s	Fleet issue oh exactly we and look
465s	they're tanking exactly they're holding
466s	at the moment now the old strategy for
468s	beating sutin is to bump bump bump bump
470s	keep pushing them away and they don't
472s	really have any real way to stop them
473s	from bumping at the same time they're
476s	not doing it we're not seeing no need
479s	lose fa get in here these battleships
481s	they're just able to sit cluster enjoy
484s	life and uh black dog is going into low
487s	armor and the thing is he can't run
489s	every in the arena he can be shot they
491s	have to they have to change the game up
492s	or they're just going to lose it's this
493s	is going to be the First time seen Su
494s	Tinker actually function really well
496s	because usually it does tend to slowly
497s	break I can't remember the last time he
499s	actually show up one I think it has but
501s	it's been a while we saw this a couple
503s	of times we saw at least once in the
504s	feeders and it didn't do well there but
507s	here of essence just coming out showing
509s	that you even though it's not a popular
511s	comp you got to have that in the back of
513s	your head you got to have that you got
514s	to be able to respect it the Golem
515s	pressure look at the Golem pressure now
517s	they starting to pressure this is triple
518s	rapid heavy so it can hurt but that
520s	thing that Golem should be like really
522s	well fit for just max tank he's kind of
525s	holding but I think he's going into
526s	armor now yeah yeah yeah he's going into
527s	armor dipping down this is a this is
529s	rough but black dog that's a big source
531s	of pressure off of the Aries that might
534s	be so poorly timed for no need loose
535s	face that might be so poorly timed they
537s	still going to get the Golem I things so
538s	the Golems now repping that boosting
540s	that might have just been it that might
542s	just been it like they were that that
543s	close even with quote unquote not
545s	playing correctly by bumping them away
547s	they were that close to getting it and
549s	then lost the ship that's that is so
550s	brutal yeah yeah you got to call the
553s	think they just called The Switch they
554s	said all in let's heat the Golem heat
556s	heat heat heat heat just Leroy this yeah
558s	you know it doesn't matter so one ship
560s	down it's not over yet they had to have
563s	a flag they can still definitely use
565s	that as pressure and again they can
566s	still just bump a ship yeah and we can
568s	see these NES have been going onto these
569s	Shield chips constantly so even though
571s	they're able to cap transfer between
573s	each other even though they have those
575s	boosters from those carg containers
577s	those squalls able to provide so much
579s	sustain at some point the NES are just
582s	going to really hurt in in this
584s	situation I'm kind of surprised know Le
586s	face hasn't tried to to dunk squs cuz
588s	they are definitely providing more cap
589s	boosters so just go shoot turn over
591s	shoot it get rid of the capacitors even
593s	blow the wreck got Go the whole way make
596s	sure cuz that's going to be the one
597s	strength that Essence has is that they
599s	don't normally can cap out a su Tinker
600s	generally to some point they can't do it
602s	here there's no stopping it until those
604s	squs are gone yeah and these squalls
606s	they're not nothing in the DPS area we
609s	usually haven't seen a lot of you know
610s	big damage from industrial Squall newer
612s	ship it was the garlic of the feeders
615s	and uh that garlic is definitely spicing
617s	up this comp although this Golem simus
619s	going into deep armor yeah oh I I'm
624s	watching that that's I wonder if his his
625s	X has be might have run out and he's not
627s	got the capacity or maybe the truly
629s	cursed moment did not turn off order
630s	reload in the XB oh that's the worst
632s	although it's still boosting boosting a
635s	little bit back and forth and this is
636s	this is a critical moment if they can
638s	get through if they can get through they
640s	have a chance of winning if they don't
641s	it's over and they they're rapidly going
643s	through their clip come on come on come
645s	on you can maybe get this come on you're
646s	this close I mean honestly whoever wins
648s	this is an amazing match to open up the
650s	day this is sud Tinker versus a flag
653s	sign me up I'm happy with this yeah and
656s	this is both teams are here they're
659s	doing quite well just watching these HP
662s	bars back and forth back and forth the
663s	Golem finally able to boost up there's
665s	reload there's reload that's the the
667s	battleships have now into are into
669s	reload now they're not shooting anymore
670s	okay so it's going to be about 40
672s	seconds before we see that damage go
673s	back on the Golem Golem currently
675s	turning everything off right click
677s	repair your heat look at the school it's
679s	in the bloody pseudo Tinker B I know
682s	they're all they're all transferring to
684s	each other this isn't this isn't just
685s	the battleship it's the whole call scho
688s	Justice it's the H C well we we're got 3
692s	minutes left them to potentially try and
693s	pull this back but at the moment it's
694s	looking like avence has got this yeah
696s	although yeah there hold on hold on I
699s	should not have said I I should not have
701s	said anything here comes the damage
702s	again does the Golem actually have the
704s	rep capability now that's a good
706s	question again those NES are just taking
709s	it out of the Scorpion they're taking it
711s	out of the Nighthawk uh he's getting
714s	real low that some of those shots could
716s	go go do through Shield H damage I think
719s	just lost some
720s	actually oh come on come on come on hold
723s	on hold on hold on Buddy let to TI live
726s	we got to know and you oh no there he
729s	goes goem down okay okay but they have
732s	they have pushed this other Navy genon
734s	almost into Hull they can get through
736s	him they're still in the game yep we've
739s	just got to be able this is a really
741s	tight race here and it looks like they
742s	finally heard you Wing that they just
743s	took out a Squall hard switch one Squall
746s	down is the next one next to fall see
750s	meanwhile that Armageddon Navy is you
752s	holding on and the no need lose face
754s	team they still have their logistic ship
756s	they still have a deacon and athalia
758s	that are able to get oh no the schools
760s	have been massacred what have they done
762s	to my
763s	boy it's tragic and those that
766s	Armageddon Navy issue seems to be
768s	stabilizing that ofalia they're able to
770s	get their reps on they're able to do
771s	what they need H they aren't being
773s	pressured by any sort of ewar NES
776s	nothing like that I think yeah this
778s	again this way P2 ly freets do very well
781s	the longer the match goes long as they
782s	stay alive they can really just provide
783s	that little bit of extra rep they're not
785s	they can't tank full comps but when a
787s	comp is half dead they have enough
790s	exactly exactly and with the Armageddon
791s	Navy issue here that ship is likely
794s	Fielding a local rep Y and so once that
798s	pressure gets off he gets to listen to
800s	the logistics chips oh no the battle
802s	Badger they've they've just been
804s	massacring all the poor Guys these guys
806s	are just trying to haul they're not
807s	fighting here they're just hauling
808s	through jve space mate we we just picked
810s	them up on the way but they're all gone
812s	and now it's just the two Navy scorpions
814s	Nighthawk and a sky Breer who's probably
816s	spending the entire game shooting every
818s	drone he can find indeed we can see the
820s	and speaking of drones these uh the
822s	Drone bays and the scorp navies and the
825s	Golem dropped centuries so we've got
827s	some centuries active here aing in the
830s	DPS and with the light and down is is
834s	really really tough foressence to pull
836s	back I think this is this is
837s	Unfortunately they went out a break
838s	through because they consistently
840s	pressuring nothing's changed they can't
842s	really win at this point like they'll
843s	probably survive a good amount of time
845s	but it it's shown that they don't have
847s	enough teeth they can't get through
849s	exactly and this they could try
852s	switching to this low end here I mean
854s	with Cruisers that is some wishful
856s	thinking I like look maybe in a blue
858s	moon with a following wind they can
859s	maybe tap a frig with a cruise but they
862s	not getting through they're chance was
863s	to try and kill the battleships they
864s	tried they got one fortunately they were
867s	like this close to getting the second
868s	one they missed out by that much so
871s	we've got just under a minute left in
873s	this match they do have Target painters
876s	left you can load Precision you can get
878s	your target painters on try and pick up
880s	a couple more points Chad flame trying
882s	to tank it out you say that they are tar
884s	they are T targeting the megas they are
886s	trying for it oh but the logy frigs
888s	they're just repping it back up I think
889s	if they if they were going to do
890s	anything it would have had to been
891s	switch to the logi frig try to get that
894s	extra rep off the table in order to be
897s	able to actually just chew through the
898s	buffer but too little too late and
901s	honestly as you say it's quite hard to
904s	hit those teu frigs with their very good
906s	s i' I've made some fits you need a lot
908s	of help to apply to FRS Al I'm also this
911s	is one of the times you have not seen
912s	anyone bump the uh the cedo Tinker
914s	that's happened every other time
915s	basically they didn't even try they
917s	didn't even bother they initially didn't
919s	see they were going to go through then I
920s	guess they might have reloaded to the
921s	right missiles maybe even loaded Rage or
922s	something just went all in with it
924s	exactly and with that match is over good
927s	fights to both of essence thank you for
929s	that lovely comp and we will send it
931s	back to the desk where we'll hear
932s	everything more
934s	there all Ence uh bringing a classic
938s	comp a pseudo Tinker comp that we saw
939s	win Alliance tournament 17 um we all
942s	know how to defeated now it's it's been
944s	fairly well solved uh no need lose face
948s	basically won that despite their best
949s	efforts they attempted not to win it but
951s	they they managed to get through and
952s	pull out the dub Bart Bartholomew yes
956s	tell me about what a sudo Tinker is
959s	and how do you be how do you beat it all
961s	right so of essence brought so we're
963s	calling audo Tinker uh history lesson
966s	not super important on that part
968s	basically what they do is the
969s	battleships are cap transferring each
970s	other and they are all using ancillary
972s	Shield boosters without the charges of
974s	them uh an ancillary Shield booster
976s	boosts a lot of Shield without the
979s	charge hello oh oh thank you excellent
984s	anyways uh C Tinker um an Shield
986s	boosters without the charge still boost
988s	the same amount they just use a ton of
989s	cap
990s	everybody's cap transferring each other
991s	and that's how they keep themselves
993s	Staying Alive um however they have to be
996s	very very close together and if you
998s	notice there's a lot of really really
999s	good camera shots of the essence team
1001s	just like sort of doing this little
1004s	dance around each other and at any point
1006s	in time you could just fly a battleship
1008s	in and bump them apart because those cap
1010s	transfers have like a seven or eight
1011s	kilometer range and you've uh you've
1013s	solved your problem however um they
1016s	didn't do that they still won by just
1019s	bashing their head into the Golem for
1021s	you know 8 minutes straight and
1022s	eventually the Golem broke probably
1024s	because you know it's a flagship armagan
1025s	Navy issue they did a lot of damage and
1028s	you know unfortunately for a Essence
1030s	that's it they're gone
1032s	uh I don't think it was a particularly
1035s	uh well fought match um on either team
1038s	I'm just I'm to be honest I feel like
1040s	well I feel like the pseudo Tinker
1041s	should do more damage right you're you
1043s	have three cruise missile battleships
1044s	that are some of the highest paper DPS
1046s	ships in the game and for some reason
1049s	they were like not applying at all it I
1052s	don't know it was we were talking about
1053s	a lot we were like huh this is not going
1055s	the way that it should the team that won
1059s	won by not doing what they were supposed
1061s	to do but it didn't matter and here we
1063s	are yep now Misty do you think um of
1066s	Ence could have won that anyway like it
1069s	felt like as Bart says they probably
1070s	should have won um but yet they didn't
1073s	as we have just witnessed um what could
1075s	they have done differently like is there
1077s	anything they could have really done I
1078s	feel like this going to be an age-old
1080s	classic answer but shooting the enemy
1082s	team at the beginning would have been a
1084s	fantastic First Step there was a period
1086s	of time and you know keeping in mind
1089s	that the pseudo Tinker has cruise
1090s	missiles so they can reach effectively
1092s	every corner of the Arena right the fact
1095s	that they weren't shooting the typon
1097s	fleet issue at the very beginning they
1099s	were kind of like eh I'm going to wait
1101s	for it to get super close um and then
1103s	they continued to wait and we were kind
1105s	of like hm where is their damage what's
1108s	happening it took them a while for the
1109s	attack bar to actually go up uh once it
1112s	did we saw that they were slowly
1113s	grinding their way through but if they'
1115s	started shooting earlier it gives them
1116s	more time to break through that ehp and
1118s	break through the Reps um and they
1120s	probably would have had their Golem
1122s	probably be a little bit more um you
1124s	know it would have more armor left it
1126s	would have more structure left when the
1127s	typon fleet went down which makes it
1129s	easier for it to try and tank through
1131s	the clips of the Navy gedon um which we
1133s	saw happen quite a few times right like
1134s	the the Golem would dip slowly slowly
1138s	slowly and then uh the Navy gons would
1141s	have to go and
1142s	reload now if you bring a redeemer what
1144s	would happen if they were redeemers wow
1147s	let me tell you um yeah you know bring a
1150s	redeemer instead of these Navy gons man
1152s	come on come on um but yeah the bump
1154s	bumping as well is very important
1157s	there's a lot of NES coming out from the
1159s	Navy genon Team if they couple that with
1162s	the fact that you can break up the cap
1164s	transfers like Bart was saying it makes
1166s	it very hard for the Golem team to
1168s	continue transferring and tanking
1170s	because they're running off of capacitor
1172s	right once you run out of charges you
1173s	don't go to reload you just carry on
1175s	boosting off of your Camp um the key to
1178s	that would have been killing the squalls
1180s	I believe at the very beginning um to
1182s	ensure that you're not getting scrammed
1184s	when you're burning in right cuz usually
1185s	you're going to have some tackle on the
1186s	lower end to make sure that you can't
1188s	get bumped out of position but they're
1190s	going to tank a lot less as well cuz
1191s	you've got no remote reps coming out so
1194s	um of essence had the chance to win
1197s	because you know the other team just
1199s	wasn't playing it effectively but uh
1202s	they also played it effectively there
1204s	you are well we are in the the lore
1206s	bracket uh so you know I guess what do
1208s	you expect uh all right let's look at
1210s	our next match in this low bracket it's
1211s	going to be unspoken Alliance versus
1213s	plug-and play and we have the bands
1214s	available so we can take a look at that
1216s	unspoken Alliance are Banning out the
1218s	abadin the mollus the arthurus and the
1221s	ashimmu interesting ban there H and plug
1223s	andplay Banning out the Loki the
1224s	Armageddon the EOS and the Nighthawk
1227s	Bart what do you think of these bands
1228s	here uh I so the ashm band is silly um
1232s	but I do like the rest of them like uh
1234s	we I think we saw plug- and play
1235s	actually use kind of this uh interesting
1237s	laser with a fleet typhoon set up
1240s	yesterday so I can understand you know
1241s	abadin are very scary they do a lot of
1244s	damage um mlles again we've seen them
1247s	use it h orthus is a bit weird I don't
1249s	think uh I think they're just kind of
1251s	trying to hedge their bets um I do like
1253s	the plug-and playay bands very very
1254s	strong though uh you know lokis are
1256s	fantastic if if you ban a Loki and a
1258s	Nighthawk and somebody tries to ham rush
1260s	you still you're probably gonna win
1261s	because they brought a bad comp right um
1263s	Armageddon again you know we've seen
1265s	some very very good Armageddon drone
1267s	setups that did a lot better than we
1270s	expected uh I like I said I like the
1272s	bands EOS bands plug- and plays bands
1274s	great Mak sense perfect unspoken are a
1276s	little like uh I think they're targeted
1278s	to plug-in play plug-in play is kind of
1280s	just like we're Banning stuff we don't
1281s	want to fight so y research done we are
1283s	in the lower bracket so I'm expecting to
1285s	start seeing a lot of flagships being
1286s	thrown around uh this morning B
1289s	basically because um yep and as I say
1291s	that it comes up on my screen to tell me
1293s	that there is a flagship Armageddon Navy
1295s	issue coming from plug and play in this
1296s	in this next match so yeah I mean if if
1298s	you're going to go out and you want to
1300s	at least get some wins and get some
1301s	skins uh this is the time to you know
1303s	bring bring those flagships M how many
1306s	of these flagships are we going to see
1307s	die do you think today oh a lot yeah oh
1309s	yeah um thankfully um teams are going to
1313s	be encouraged to bring their Flagship
1315s	because you want the chance to win some
1316s	of these new prize ships that are coming
1318s	out uh for the first time in ever I
1320s	think so 20 years since we had the last
1323s	Battleship prizes given out um but more
1325s	importantly like the battleships instead
1326s	of just being like fancy are actually op
1329s	so um there's an there's reason for
1332s	people to be throwing down isk right cuz
1333s	you even if you lose your Flagship but
1335s	you get through the match um you will be
1338s	able to recoup your losses if you manage
1339s	to get some of these PR ships so yeah um
1341s	yeah we're going to see a lot of
1342s	flagships die and remember 90% drop rate
1345s	event going on right now so make sure to
1347s	actually kill the flagship on the enemy
1349s	team please yeah and obviously it's up
1351s	to you but you if you lose your Flagship
1352s	and you sell some chips alive you can
1354s	shoot the wreck you know if you want to
1356s	be those guys uh and deprive your your
1359s	opponents of getting the load you can do
1360s	that that's totally optional um all
1362s	right I think we have we can go to the
1364s	arena now for this match in Alliance
1366s	tournament
1369s	20 welcome back to the arena guys I'm of
1371s	course Wing joined by Ali and we have
1373s	another Flagship on the arena but it's
1374s	coming up against a wall of DPS get us
1377s	through Ally what we got so on the on
1380s	the blue side we have a big or sorry on
1383s	the red side my apologies we have a big
1385s	rush uh this is a double alligator
1387s	double slep Rush with a gila and a
1390s	crucifier for a little bit of bonus uh a
1394s	little bit of bonus eward there and this
1396s	Rush is running without the Nighthawk or
1399s	the Loki cuz those got banned by them I
1401s	think by them yeah Wing not what do we
1402s	have on the other side we have Plug and
1404s	Play playing very similar comp to what
1405s	they lost in last time but they've gone
1407s	you know no we're done losing we're
1409s	going all in they've brought a flagon
1411s	Navy with us of course to going with
1412s	their Paladin and Dema and they've
1414s	brought double control ship they' got
1416s	crucifier and Sentinel which honestly is
1418s	going to really blunt this Rush yeah
1421s	we've got mixed weapon systems here the
1422s	alligators are have missiles for their
1425s	damage these slep have tracking or have
1429s	guns sorry which are disrupted by
1431s	tracking disruptors so whatever that
1434s	Sentinel and crucifier showed up with in
1436s	their mids those are going to be
1438s	effective here
1439s	it's really going to be a rough spot for
1442s	The Rush yep we'll see where the
1443s	projection starts going first what's
1445s	getting hit okay they're shooting a
1446s	crucified begin with okay fair enough
1449s	honestly applying to it better than
1450s	expected but no it's going to tank DEA
1452s	being hit first are they rushing they're
1455s	not really rushing in are they they yeah
1456s	yeah I was uh confident I was quite
1459s	confident about this but maybe a little
1461s	bit too confident are autoc Cannon sleps
1464s	but they're they're not doing the usual
1465s	lering in they're just like we're going
1467s	to go around and be cheeky we're going
1469s	to pick our our slot I mean maybe this
1470s	is a uh Flagship assassination attempt
1473s	aiming for ier XX unspoken Alliance they
1476s	were here yesterday and they brought
1478s	their flag and lost their flag so maybe
1481s	they're just trying to trade it back and
1483s	with that though the damage is all going
1485s	on this Sentinel honestly yeah get rid
1487s	of the the ew War let their rush really
1489s	Rush they're going for the megas too
1491s	trying to blunt this comp they're doing
1492s	very well hitting these smaller ships
1493s	and constantly pressing and one does go
1495s	down wow they've already started doing
1497s	pretty well honestly I didn't I did like
1499s	this comp when I first saw it because of
1500s	the mixed guns but that's a good start
1503s	yeah honestly being able to and this is
1505s	one of the things that really separates
1507s	the good teams from the the less good
1509s	teams when you show up and it's a little
1511s	bit of an awkward matchup for you so
1512s	Rush obviously usually rushes in what's
1515s	the problem when you rush in well this
1517s	big armor control team is going to
1519s	separate you apart if you maybe hang
1523s	back a little bit don't all run in right
1525s	at the start wait for your opportunity
1528s	then maybe maybe you have an opportunity
1529s	to make something happen clear out a
1531s	sentinel get someone who's a little bit
1533s	out of position and that's what happened
1534s	here that said they are now all in on
1537s	dant in the Redeemer and so far there's
1540s	no real damage being traded back onto
1543s	this Rush there something hit the left
1544s	and a I'm kind of curious can you do me
1545s	a favor and check the alligator is that
1546s	hams or Heavies cuz this could be a kidi
1550s	comp
1550s	instead like I I but I see slip the
1553s	order can I'm assuming it's a rush but
1554s	they can't project yeah no this is a
1556s	this does appear to be a uh a ham okay
1559s	is good fair enough I was making sure
1561s	like feel like I'm in like you know La
1562s	La Land but they are doing quite well
1564s	look at the demer actually they are
1565s	pounding this guy down this is going
1567s	better than it has any right to be yeah
1570s	this is a bit of a surprising one the
1571s	demer just I mean honestly you get so
1573s	many of these Ships coming in and you've
1575s	got selectable damage types so you can
1577s	move away from those reactive armor
1579s	hardeners the alligators yeah maybe they
1580s	can't apply with their hams across the
1582s	whole Arena but they can definitely
1583s	apply with their drones oh yeah
1585s	disgusting things those are but the de
1587s	is about to go into hell this Rush is
1589s	doing rush things and it's so far it's
1592s	looking very good as a sleer on their
1594s	side still at about half Shields I
1596s	haven't count the xcl speed Cycles I'm
1597s	not sure how many he's gone through but
1599s	he's definitely gone through a few yeah
1601s	yeah and this crucifier is actually
1602s	doing a ton of work and redeemer's down
1605s	those tracking disruptors from the
1606s	crucifier were being applied to the
1608s	Paladin and the Redeemer presumably
1609s	they're going to go to the Paladin and
1610s	the armagan Navy issue here and those
1613s	tracking disruptors that's part of why
1616s	the unspoken Alliance has been keeping
1618s	their range unspoken wants to be able to
1620s	stay enough split up from the
1623s	battleships in a sense they're flying a
1625s	control comp versus the battleship rush
1628s	tactically so this is really well flown
1631s	I also just notice I'm so used to
1632s	getting navies being missiles I stopped
1633s	looking I should have looked it's a gun
1636s	getting Navy of course yeah yeah and
1637s	this is what this is what mti's been
1639s	wanting to see all week or well all
1641s	tournament uh feels like a week feels
1644s	like it's been that long right yeah yeah
1645s	yeah but he's been saying you know oh
1647s	you can take a you can take an armag
1648s	Navy issue you can take a redeemer well
1651s	Plug and Play they've shown up with an
1652s	Armageddon Navy issue they've shown up
1653s	with Redeemer they've shown up with the
1654s	Paladin and these ships are just getting
1658s	destroyed by The Rush from the other
1659s	side getting deleted yep one of the Lo
1661s	ships is now going the inquis is
1662s	probably going to follow rather quickly
1664s	they are picking apart this comp this is
1666s	a rush you know we expected Russians to
1667s	do well we were honestly kind of almost
1669s	discounting him a little bit yesterday
1671s	because a lot of control showed up but
1673s	Rush still does very well against
1675s	battleships if you can get them all in
1677s	and they managed to avoid the usual pits
1679s	at the start and still get in and stop
1680s	punching yeah just really well piloted
1682s	from unspoken here knowing what they
1684s	want to do in the matchup and we've seen
1686s	the logistics for plug andplay fall that
1689s	Paladin's in low armor there's no reps
1692s	to keep that Paladin alive meanwhile
1694s	they've only traded onto a single
1696s	slepnir yep and that s paid for like
1700s	took his life and wait took as much time
1701s	as he could with it he made them pay him
1703s	blood and this is I mean this is again
1705s	what you want to the position you want
1707s	to be in in a rush rush you're often
1708s	trading DPS trying to get that out and
1711s	one of the things that again really
1712s	separates the good teams from the you
1714s	the good Rush execution from the so so
1716s	is knowing when not to rush and unspoken
1720s	they know when not to rush and they
1721s	they've gone you know what we lost our
1723s	flag yesterday I guess will take
1725s	yours cuz yeah they're going onto the
1728s	flag now they've got more than enough
1730s	Rush left to kill it this is going to be
1732s	a flag down to a team without a flag and
1735s	but usually like we've seen teams be
1737s	almost spiteful and kill a flag when
1738s	they're about to leave a tournament
1739s	these guys going to be going to kill the
1741s	flag and win the match exactly exactly
1743s	although wa that they have they don't
1745s	have a flag of their own so we've talked
1747s	about people like upgrading your flag so
1749s	you kill the enemy flag you loot it
1751s	hopefully it has some purple modules
1753s	that you don't have and then you just
1754s	make your flag better and better and
1756s	better and in this case they're going to
1757s	kill the flag and it's not going to make
1759s	their flag better it's just going to
1761s	make their team payout better yeah but
1763s	you know if you discount the flag loss
1764s	they just pay off their tournament costs
1766s	exactly exactly and even for for a non-f
1772s	flag comp you invest quite a bit of isk
1774s	into your oh yeah tournament comps two
1777s	alligators two slipers that's not
1779s	significant amount of money indeed and
1780s	this is happening on the live server
1782s	tranquility and there goes that Flagship
1785s	goodbye boom they've got the squalls
1788s	right up on that wreck let's see if we
1790s	can get that uh that wck looted the
1793s	Squall is going to look the this is why
1796s	you bring squalls to the match you need
1798s	the Industrials so you can fit all the
1800s	modules right just like open up your
1803s	purse sticking the bread sticks in you
1805s	know it's the oh my God it's like the
1808s	guy that comes into your sight when
1809s	you're finished just grabs all the
1813s	stu oh the greed the squir there's
1816s	nothing left to really stop him now this
1817s	this match is entirely over well played
1819s	on spoken again I will eat my words I
1822s	did not expect this to go well in the
1824s	slightest and they managed to make it
1825s	work congratulations yeah we've got the
1828s	uh last crucifier remaining 106 km 108
1833s	km from the steam he's headed for a
1834s	beacon try for if we get a new Edge of
1838s	Glory record from NC
1841s	177e in the crucifier this is going to
1844s	be a excellent uh way out yep to Val
1850s	spooling
1851s	loading he's not gonna break the record
1853s	nope not at all only 170 well thank you
1856s	very much to Plug and Play it was a very
1859s	good match we're gonna go on break and
1860s	back to the Sho and see what they think
1861s	about
1863s	it they have been unplugged from
1865s	Alliance tournament uh 20 they are going
1867s	home they lost an expensive Flagship as
1869s	well in that match uh the comp coming
1872s	from the other side from unspoken
1872s	Alliance was an interesting one it first
1874s	we thought it looked like the classic
1875s	Florida man comp then we were like oh no
1877s	maybe it's fly killer is this Florida
1879s	killer but then we noticed that those
1881s	were um AC s nears Mr might your
1884s	thoughts on that comp from unspoken I
1886s	mean we were discussing it yesterday
1888s	when we were looking at things like
1889s	Nighthawk bands um I mentioned that the
1891s	alligator is a suitable replacement is
1893s	not as good um I would say as the
1896s	Nighthawk but we saw that it can be
1898s	flown very effectively um we saw that
1901s	the unspoken team is it unspoken
1904s	unspoken okay perfect you're not
1906s	supposed to say the name though ah it's
1908s	unspoken I've broken the rule um managed
1911s	to even though they were ham and AC fit
1914s	right um they kept their range at the
1916s	very beginning they used the alligator
1918s	and the Gil drones to try and weaken and
1921s	soften up the lower end um of the plug
1923s	andplay team they killed the Sentinel at
1925s	the very beginning to remove some of the
1927s	tracking disruptors which was a very
1928s	effective play and also importantly it
1930s	removes some of the small NES because
1931s	small noes can be very effective they
1933s	cycle quickly they actually n a fair
1935s	amount um and it would have been tricky
1938s	for them to keep their hardeners on if
1940s	that Sentinel was still alive right um
1942s	with the heavier NES that come out from
1944s	the battleships it's much easier to try
1945s	and time your your invol Cycles so that
1947s	you still have your resist
1949s	but with a sentinel still on grid you
1950s	would never be able to turn your resist
1952s	mods on um and that would effectively
1955s	mean that your ships are a lot squish
1956s	yet um however that is irrelevant if you
1961s	just shoot a slepnir instead of the
1962s	alligators with laser ships at the very
1964s	beginning um and then you spend the
1966s	entire match just trying to kill one
1967s	ship so Target selection Target
1970s	selection yeah it's a underrated skill
1973s	in Alliance tournament you know you warp
1974s	in uh the referee says okay warping is
1976s	unlocked you head warp he locks it again
1979s	you land you get your first look at what
1980s	the enemy is bringing uh and then the
1982s	spaghetti just starts flying everywhere
1984s	at that point and you have to try and
1985s	like keep yourself composed uh and call
1987s	the right targets and also make sure
1989s	that you don't start like flipping
1990s	around and like you stick with something
1992s	but you also know when to change like
1994s	it's a really it is an underrated skill
1997s	um you can take a really good comp with
1999s	good Pilots but if you just call the
2000s	wrong targets then it will still lose uh
2003s	Bart I mean I wouldn't say it was a
2005s	really good
2006s	comp I was saying Theory you could do um
2010s	I do think so one of the things that the
2012s	uh the unspoken Alliance team had is
2015s	they did bring a crucifier in a shield
2017s	Rush which is weird because like usually
2019s	I dislike it when people do that CU
2020s	you're wasting a ship slot but the
2022s	Nighthawk alligator or the not Nighthawk
2025s	the alligator hea sner setup had so much
2027s	DPS didn't matter um I think I'm going
2030s	to I'm going to give them the benefit of
2031s	the doubt here the reason why they shot
2033s	the sleer is because I I think the
2035s	crucifier was like all tracking
2037s	disruptors I think they kind of got red
2039s	there and um I don't think they could
2041s	shoot anything else so I think what
2043s	happened is they literally were like ah
2046s	well I guess this is yeah and then you
2049s	know with the
2050s	sner that's actually a ship that's
2052s	usually a good idea to just stay on it
2053s	because eventually the ASB charges run
2055s	out you know after like say nine or so
2056s	cycles and then you're like oh oh now it
2058s	dies that one lived forever though like
2060s	big big shout out to the heat management
2062s	and the logy pilots from unspoken um
2064s	yeah they did bring guns on an Eman Navy
2067s	yeah yeah yeah yeah we can talk about
2068s	the AR Navy issue like speaking of Cu
2070s	it's a flagship people that didn't
2072s	didn't continue to stay alive uh the
2074s	flagship armag Navy issue so um Zed
2077s	Kell's valuing it at 75 B billion isk
2079s	which is a lot um we see thanks to the
2082s	90% lot drop uh we see that the Goan
2084s	modified status web far has indeed
2086s	dropped it's a 22 Bill web super useful
2088s	if you have a flagship Bal Gorn and that
2090s	dropped in front of you slap that thing
2092s	right on that's going to be amazing um
2094s	and also we see a very fancy damage
2096s	control so uh it's quite Poss unspoken
2098s	have just got a nice little upgrade to
2100s	their
2100s	flagships what do you think of this
2102s	Flagship M I know you love getting
2103s	navies so much well I was going to say
2105s	uh it says 202 bill but it's more like
2107s	air quotes because during at season
2110s	these kind of modules Skyrocket um I
2112s	would probably advise if they aren't
2113s	going to use it themselves don't sell it
2116s	until you're out of the tournament or
2117s	else you may come up against it later on
2119s	and be like ah damn um but you know for
2122s	these teams if they do end up going out
2125s	they've still made Bank basically just
2127s	killing this one flag it means that
2128s	they've got a super strong web that they
2130s	can sell um and it's always exciting to
2132s	see these flagships hit the grid I I
2134s	think that I probably would have gone
2137s	for some officer guns maybe if if you're
2139s	going to Splash the cash if you're going
2140s	to have a really expensive damage
2141s	control unit and like one of the the
2144s	better webs in the game probably just
2146s	spash the extra cash for stronger guns
2148s	as well um but yeah I mean it's it's
2150s	nice to see a decent Flagship fit uh wow
2156s	better could do better yeah I mean tech
2158s	one rigs what's this where is my Tobias
2160s	web where is my strategio Grappler yes
2163s	yes yes I want those you want those yes
2165s	you you providing them if anyone wants
2168s	to buy a
2169s	gra all right uh so our next match which
2171s	is coming up in uh just about five
2173s	minutes or so is going to be slow
2174s	children at play versus only fleets and
2176s	I believe we can hear from the
2178s	spokesperson for slow children at
2187s	Play ja of all trades alliance with a
2189s	focus in nulc in cloud ring but you'll
2192s	see us all over the place like high SEC
2194s	War HQ Bashan against some pirate groups
2197s	uh lowack faction Warfare and even some
2199s	spooky Wormhole Shenanigans this is our
2202s	first time in the alliance tournament
2203s	and we look forward to making this an
2205s	every year thing for slow as we hone and
2207s	improve on our abilities our current
2209s	Alliance tournament team is being led by
2211s	Aragon who has former experience in
2213s	Alliance tournament as well as some
2215s	awesome members in slow with varying
2216s	degrees of experience from vet
2218s	to new players we're looking forward to
2221s	facing off against our friends and
2222s	snuffed out as it will not only be a
2224s	challenge but also a great way to prove
2227s	and improve on our abilities we hope
2229s	others and Eve cheer on our little team
2231s	of underdogs as our Eve story has always
2233s	been that of the underdog with a strong
2235s	focus on hidden up and helping those
2237s	being bullied and a strong Outreach to
2239s	new players we may be slow but we will
2242s	always catch you in the end so to the
2244s	other Alliance tournament teams watch
2247s	out
2249s	thank you from uh slow children at play
2251s	it's always nice to hear from some of
2253s	the the teams especially maybe ones that
2254s	haven't competed L tourament before and
2256s	a slow TR and this is their first time
2258s	um I'm hoping to see uh I I like when
2260s	Underdog teams do well we all do it's
2262s	just much more fun no one likes it when
2264s	you know the same people are just
2266s	continuously winning all the time it's
2267s	nice like last year we had fraternity
2268s	come in and win for the first time uh
2270s	you know don't think anyone had that in
2272s	their prediction at the start of the
2273s	tournament except Mr biased might over
2276s	there um but yeah that was that was
2278s	great we always love to see that so
2279s	let's have a look at the band for this
2281s	upcoming match slow children at play
2282s	versus only fleets so slow children
2284s	Banning out the pontifex and the Magus
2286s	so both armor command destroyers have
2289s	been removed so pretty solid bands uh
2291s	cycl F issue and the Loki then we have
2293s	only fleets Banning out the arbitrator
2295s	armagedon Navy isue EOS and the zarm
2298s	BART what do you think about these bands
2300s	you know for for a group that it says
2301s	that you know it's their first time
2302s	doing an alliance tournament I mean the
2304s	Pontius mag ponteix Magus ban hard uh
2308s	that's really really smart like that is
2311s	if you get rid of those it makes it so
2313s	hard to fly most armor setups um this
2315s	basically it means you have to bring in
2317s	EOS which is a lot of points and once
2319s	you do that you're kind of sort of
2320s	locking yourself into certain specific
2322s	setups so I really like so when that
2323s	plays bands you know they've definitely
2325s	done their research they understand Band
2326s	Theory uh to a degree um which is pretty
2329s	cool uh I do really like that and again
2331s	they kind of took some of the shield
2332s	Rush setups though as we just saw a
2334s	alligator heess leer Shield Rush clearly
2336s	you could bring an alligator heess Le if
2338s	you wanted to so I don't know if that
2339s	really says anything um and you know
2341s	same thing uh only Fleet spans really
2344s	really good too uh zarm zarm as that one
2347s	this one I'll ask chat how to pronounce
2348s	Zar Maad zarm Maad Zar mazad I think we
2352s	can go with nice I like that you need to
2354s	really annunciate the second syllable
2355s	zarm Azad zarm Azad yes so you know
2359s	they've basically banned armor out right
2360s	you can't bring the ponix you can't
2362s	bring the Magus you can't bring the EOS
2364s	so the only armor setup you can maybe
2366s	bring would be sort of a links set up
2368s	like medium gun spam um links are very
2371s	important in the alliance tournament I
2373s	think sometimes people don't understand
2374s	just like how broken they are in a small
2376s	setting like this uh and then yeah you
2379s	know arbitrators they've been disgusting
2381s	it's kind of been The Unsung ship of uh
2383s	yesterday I feel like cuz we saw so many
2384s	matches where an arbitrator just
2386s	destroyed the ability for the other team
2388s	to play so you know yeah they're both on
2390s	the lower bracket but like they're
2391s	they're being very smart and if you're
2393s	doing ban smart it means you're probably
2394s	picking comp smart maybe possibly we'll
2396s	find out y I mean I also like the fact
2398s	that uh only fleets responded to the pon
2401s	effect Magus ban with that EOS ban like
2404s	CH both sides are sort of you know
2406s	fairly switched on in terms of Band
2407s	Theory and like picking the right thing
2408s	to to get rid of um the the armade being
2411s	taken out as well means that obviously
2413s	Teo thetic Cruisers are available but
2415s	why would you bother bringing them now
2416s	when all the links like you say have
2417s	been taken out Misty is this one of the
2420s	situations where if you have a strong
2421s	armor comp you still want to bring it
2424s	are you going to try and force it or are
2425s	you going to try and just swap into
2426s	Shield or something it's it's always the
2429s	case you can have some variations of a
2431s	strong comp but at a certain point you
2433s	kind of just have to let it go and
2434s	accept Okay we can't run this comp
2437s	because to do so just because you're
2438s	comfortable with it doesn't mean that
2439s	it's good in the matchup um there are
2443s	other things you can do yeah you can
2444s	just bring BC spam um the zarm probably
2447s	wouldn't factor that well into a BC spam
2449s	anyway um typically you're going to have
2452s	um various ships like some some ships
2454s	cutting in getting tackle stuff like
2455s	that getting shot every now and then so
2456s	you want to swap your reps around
2458s	um but yeah I I think at this point I
2461s	was actually going to mention I think
2462s	the CFI and Loki bands aren't so much
2464s	for ham rush but I think it's more to
2467s	try and remove some strong kiting ships
2469s	um I think cycl Fleet issue does a
2471s	better job with heavy missiles kiting
2472s	around the edge of the Arena um then it
2474s	does with hams as they are still fairly
2477s	squishy compared to other battle
2479s	Cruisers um but they are very fast and
2481s	have decent range so I I I think slow
2483s	Chan is just trying to remove any
2484s	potential kite and force an armor comp
2487s	or um a a ham Rush from the only fleet's
2491s	side yeah I think having um that zarm in
2493s	there as well from uh the only Fleet
2495s	side kind of removes the Widow comp as
2498s	well it's like a two for one ban because
2500s	uh obviously Widow kind of a tauny boy
2502s	um you really want to be able to spool
2503s	on him um with your with your rep so by
2506s	removing that arm you kind of hamstring
2509s	uh the the widow or you you know just
2511s	don't bring it at all I see as well that
2513s	uh slow are bringing their Flagship
2515s	Vindicator uh I'm sure there's a very
2517s	happy Australian somewhere in the
2518s	building right I think I might have
2519s	heard him I think I might have heard I
2521s	think I heard it um Wingnut does love
2524s	his his vindicators so dearly uh so
2527s	let's make him happy and send it to the
2528s	desk so he can talk all about
2532s	it hello and welcome back to the desk
2536s	hello and welcome or hello welcome back
2538s	to the arena I know where I am good
2540s	morning good afternoon and good evening
2542s	everyone we are here to watch a vicious
2545s	Rush attempt to assassinate my colleague
2548s	Wing nut's favorite ship wi at the skin
2550s	look at the skin it's so beautiful it's
2553s	glorious but it's going to die this is a
2555s	lot of rush they need to do what
2557s	Vindicator should never do run indeed
2560s	and we've seen this before with rush we
2563s	need that ericon needs everyone on their
2566s	team to Pile in screen them off string
2569s	them out try and prevent these ships
2571s	from getting on top of them it's going
2572s	to be a little bit easier than it
2574s	usually is you know why this Rush does
2576s	not have an onyx it does does not have a
2578s	Loki there is no extra bonus long
2582s	distance way to slow things down so here
2585s	we have the rush streaming over and we
2588s	can immediately see that like half their
2589s	team is wept yep and Bam one's gone they
2592s	just killed some on the small in there
2594s	yeah that's a nurgle so one of those
2596s	nice tackle screening ships out of the
2598s	way Vindicator is webbed uh here we go
2601s	Shield sheld going all righty boys this
2605s	is a tank tank moment this Vindicator is
2607s	going to get the gaming of their life
2609s	moment get that cap injector running
2611s	overheat the the rep hope you brought a
2614s	good one y and damage coming in on stsh
2617s	meanwhile trying to trade off as much of
2619s	that damage as we can splitting between
2621s	The Vindicator and the dger right now
2623s	actually yeah trying and kill more stuff
2624s	they got to kill stash fast and
2625s	immediately switch where I think blades
2627s	is the next one they can go for he's
2629s	never mind he's not actually that close
2630s	they need to switch something else
2631s	something near by The Vindicator can
2632s	shoot maybe the Drake Navy they need to
2634s	just keep it going keep going keep going
2636s	the vind tanking very good right now and
2638s	the draga is holding to have they maybe
2641s	managed it or am I jumping too soon here
2644s	it's tough to say it's a little bit
2645s	close to call blades scar going down in
2647s	the ospry naue I will note that aerican
2651s	and the Nighthawk is down uh and you can
2653s	see that these 90% webs are being
2655s	switched between American and Melinda
2657s	back and forth back and forth no no no
2659s	no that's not allowed not allowed to do
2661s	that no he's got a cool skin he's got
2663s	the cool skin protection he's got the
2664s	cool skin but he's got two Nighthawks
2666s	and a caracle both sitting at zero right
2669s	on top of them piling the missiles in
2672s	please this is a flagship assassination
2675s	attempt and I hope that with this all of
2677s	Aron's teammates are going out trying to
2681s	spread out prevent themselves from
2682s	getting tackled because they might lose
2684s	their Vindicator but they can still win
2686s	this match might it's not looking like
2688s	my it's looking really bad they've
2689s	killed a lot of DPS ships but there's
2692s	still too many please Deacon Thalia save
2695s	him save the boy he reps indeed now
2699s	damage coming on of the Carle Navy they
2700s	might be trying to do something a little
2702s	bit smart here The Nighthawks no there
2704s	it goes my
2707s	condolences he's doing so well they're
2710s	still going to win there's going to get
2711s	Vengeance hopefully no one blows up
2714s	the indeed indeed so the estarte of
2717s	Phoenix is still in this blob with The
2719s	Nighthawks with the Drake Navy issue but
2721s	the rest of the team has spread out the
2722s	Stratos are some 30 37 km away the ders
2726s	in a little bit close trying to keep
2728s	tackle on that Drake Navy issue and we
2730s	can see some tackle on the only fleet's
2732s	Logistics that scalpel pair uh trying to
2735s	prevent them from being able to maneuver
2737s	around the arena so these Nighthawks
2740s	they're pretty much in one place
2741s	everyone sort of piled on this uh the
2744s	sarte and this might still go in the in
2748s	favor of the slow team so no Flagship
2751s	but maybe they get to continue in the at
2754s	maybe some more skins for them we got to
2756s	do it for the vindy boy we have we have
2757s	to honor him at the moment they are
2759s	doing quite well the AAR is absolutely
2762s	tanking that man it look seems even
2763s	thicker than The Vindicator hery but
2766s	they are getting the drag Navy which is
2767s	the last of the squishy ships they can
2769s	shoot then after that it's going through
2771s	the disgusting amount of HP that is a
2773s	Nighthawk indeed and Wingnut there's one
2775s	more reason to leave The Nighthawks for
2777s	last and that is because galente Tech 2
2779s	resists would love to be shot by your
2781s	kinetic bonus Nighthawks so the DPS
2784s	Nighthawks they do quite a lot of damage
2786s	oh there's the switch clear that out
2789s	fair enough but probably going to get
2791s	traded for the Drake Navy issue and then
2793s	again just these two Nighthawks
2794s	remaining the Night Hawks are free
2796s	they're able to or were free they were
2798s	able to move out a little bit uh Melinda
2801s	is out aa's tackled uh presumably by
2804s	that aarte which is still right upos
2807s	which is all right up in that orinal
2809s	Stratos the Stratos I don't know which
2810s	one that is but right he just burned
2813s	straight past the Nighthawk got grabbed
2815s	that they were these St been playing
2816s	smart carding the whole time he's now
2818s	been caught and that is a free kill he's
2820s	just handed these Nighthawks boom
2823s	disrespecting the vindy you got to do it
2826s	right please but he's he's going to die
2828s	but what's next what can this stard kill
2831s	is he going to go for a Nighthawk he's
2832s	going to go playing chasy with the big
2833s	the small ships I feel like at this
2835s	point the slow team really needs to take
2837s	out this Logistics they've lost some
2839s	damage I mean obviously The Vindicator
2840s	was a huge DPS loss on their side with
2844s	presumably the loss of the Stratos is
2846s	not dead yet maybe tanking maybe there's
2848s	a reactive look at the Vigilant okay I
2850s	was about to say the vigilant's probably
2851s	the best ship to go murdering a LOD fr
2853s	the Vigilant is out back behind the Lodi
2856s	frig away from the N Hawk he might be
2859s	able to go in there grab the web on it
2861s	it's not going to be a fancy web but
2862s	it's still a Vigilant web it's not
2863s	exactly a weak thing yeah and we can see
2865s	some damage going on to KO zad in the oh
2868s	there he goes he got the web he got the
2869s	web and what watch this thing just get
2871s	deler there we go Vigilant there
2873s	beautiful serpenta superiority indeed
2877s	getting those 90% webs the Vigilant has
2879s	been an absolutely key ship in these
2882s	more medium gun spam type comps this is
2885s	you the big version of the medium gun
2887s	span perhaps where we have the uh The
2889s	Vindicator in here as well medium gun
2891s	yeah yeah yeah extra medium gun and this
2894s	Stratos is tanking nicely just like I
2897s	wear medium shirts definitely yeah not
2899s	not not large medium but Stratus I'm
2902s	mostly surprised is doing so well but
2903s	the damage has now been flipped to a
2904s	deacon and I mean two nigh hooks with a
2907s	vigil trying to shoot a deacon they're
2908s	actually applying better than I'd expect
2910s	them to the Vigilant is providing paints
2912s	there is no webs I think there's no webs
2915s	okay we're good yeah we've got the it's
2917s	a little every time you see me look
2918s	around I'm just trying to make sure I
2920s	don't say anything silly about uh ewar
2921s	effects and indeed no webs on the Deacon
2923s	Deacon comfortably coasting along
2925s	probably a 1n deacon so it's got a low
2928s	Sig as well just based more maneuverable
2931s	with an tenna men which is always a it's
2933s	always fun to drive the bus indeed uh
2936s	it's a it's a thrilling experience y
2939s	going uh anyone who's flyting over
2941s	propers know the feeling you got to
2942s	think like 10 seconds ahead of where
2943s	you're going but these dickons they can
2944s	just play it smart or Deon Thalia and
2947s	they are slowly chewing through a knaw
2948s	they will kill one which means I think
2951s	at that point it will be GG they will
2954s	have it fully secure because these
2955s	Nighthawks basically can't do that much
2957s	this is why you bring a Loki or an onyx
2960s	or a Hena with your Nighthawks indeed
2964s	that Nighthawk not able to reach across
2966s	the arena and and and get things in the
2968s	only Target in the neighborhood of that
2970s	Nighthawk is the estarte which is
2972s	absolutely not something they want to
2974s	shoot they just like come at me
2976s	bro but yeah n hooks do require a little
2978s	bit of application help it's why the
2980s	Loki is preferred to the Onyx because it
2981s	gives you the webs but it lets them keep
2983s	blooming their stick with Michael War
2984s	Drive so it's like a free shooting one
2987s	down one left indeed Gideon zandar in
2989s	the vigil providing those Target panners
2991s	a little bit of extra uh points and
2993s	Gideon zenar in the vigil is actually
2995s	streaming away from the rest of the this
2997s	could be another Beacon jump attempt
3000s	let's just uh take a quick look uh oh no
3003s	there's a turn no he went way too fast
3005s	he missed it oh yeah yeah yeah I see
3007s	it's the you got to these beacons they
3009s	have a range of 5 km and so if you're
3013s	just going too fast when you approach
3014s	the beacon yeah can't remember if it
3017s	actually happened but I'm swearing I
3018s	remember a guy that was over propped who
3019s	tried to go to the beacon did not stop
3021s	beforehand and just kept burning past
3024s	the beacon and
3025s	boundary is that my that happened please
3028s	someone remembers let me know cuz I
3030s	remember that being funny There Goes
3031s	Melinda and that means there's one
3032s	visual left who is just uh flying around
3034s	having fun good fights and local and it
3035s	was a very good fight the assassination
3037s	attempt it worked it worked they did
3039s	lose and they did very they did quite
3041s	well for what they did but they they
3043s	killed a vindy therefore they can never
3044s	be forgiven indeed well fortunately for
3047s	you uh only fleets this is an
3048s	elimination match for them uh they will
3051s	be going on to the uh audience bracket
3055s	uh or the beer and nachos bracket as I
3057s	uh called it when I was playing a lot of
3058s	Magic Gathering uh slow children at play
3061s	meanwhile we'll see more of them in the
3062s	tournament they can keep going on their
3064s	skin run through the losers bracket
3066s	trying to get some more prizes Gideon
3068s	zendar here still trying to get that
3073s	thing get that uh that jump let's just
3075s	see is it is it spooling no no Gideon
3079s	hanging out at the very edge of the
3081s	boundary I love looking at like the
3082s	local chat right obviously you kind see
3084s	they're all going go go go go you can do
3086s	it
3088s	believe for something completely
3090s	different uh as we've mentioned we are
3092s	here on site in rikic Iceland uh
3095s	beautiful place very exciting to be here
3096s	at the CCP headquarters one of the most
3099s	exciting things though is this means we
3100s	get to see the Northern Lights and with
3103s	that there goes gy and zenar lights out
3105s	for them we're going to send this back
3107s	to a break and then back to the desk
3110s	children at play taking their first
3112s	victory in Alliance tournament 20 they
3114s	do progress on the Deep skin run they
3116s	did lose their FL ship Vindicator um I
3119s	was watching it here in this room and I
3120s	heard sad Australian noises emanating
3122s	from somewhere else in the building uh
3124s	as that Vindicator went down uh we took
3126s	a took a quick look at that Flagship
3128s	Vindicator lost mail um and it's uh it's
3131s	modest uh some would say but I mean
3133s	considering uh slow said this was their
3135s	first time doing the Lance tournament um
3137s	I think it's a relatively well fit one
3139s	it's you know did its job this is one of
3141s	those examples where if it was a little
3143s	bit more expensive it might have
3144s	actually survived um just a bit more
3146s	tank uh cuz it was so close um when they
3149s	were were shedding damage from the only
3151s	Fleet side uh they were just about on
3153s	the verge I think of a little bit more
3155s	you know bling on this thing it does
3156s	survive so you know but like like we
3158s	said 90% Loot drop so they'll be able to
3161s	have picked up their own uh wreck and
3163s	get most of that money back but uh
3166s	obviously they can't Dodge more bands
3167s	now with with The Vindicator so it's a
3168s	bit of a shame for them but
3170s	congratulations on your first win and
3171s	you get skins so more definitely more
3173s	than the value of that Vindicator uh so
3175s	I'm joined on the desk by a new face
3177s	fear Fe Vina how about you today uh I'm
3179s	doing well excited to uh be on the desk
3181s	for the first time for at yeah we're
3184s	excited to have you here we've been
3185s	enjoying your commentary in the in the
3186s	dungeon um usually it's just I think
3188s	it's still got Australians in it I can't
3190s	tell if they've been allowed back out I
3192s	think we've let them out yeah I saw him
3193s	Wonder past that means there's a Rog
3195s	Australian in this building there I
3197s	don't know where he is I don't know
3198s	where to look so I have to kind to track
3200s	him down um but yeah let's talk about
3202s	that match uh fear you wanted to talk
3203s	about some things in particular so one
3206s	thing that I noticed um was Loki was
3208s	banned and then they still bring this
3209s	Shield Rush um typically when you see
3212s	Shield Rush it's brought with a Loki
3214s	because you want the long range webs and
3215s	you want the ham damage and the
3217s	tankiness that the Loki brings you in
3218s	that comp but really it is the longrange
3220s	webs if you're chasing after something
3222s	especially the smaller ships these
3224s	battle Cruisers down that were
3225s	starbursting after The Vindicator uh was
3227s	tackled in a shield rush you need to be
3230s	able to grab them from a distance
3232s	because uh especially Nighthawks you're
3233s	not going to be faster than a lot of
3234s	these ships so you see uh typically Loki
3237s	Loki got banned you have a couple their
3240s	options in that in a shield Rush uh
3242s	we've seen onyx's this tournament um
3244s	back in the alliance open some teams
3246s	used uh frat actually used uh
3250s	broadswords um but we had uh various
3253s	different options and instead they
3254s	brought a shield Rush with no tackle and
3256s	as we saw that time and I think Miss is
3257s	going to talk about uh that doesn't
3259s	really work if you're up against a comp
3261s	that's going to be able to kite you
3262s	outside of the one ship yeah and Misty
3265s	let's talk about that you also want to
3266s	talk about about like Target priority
3268s	and like when do you should watch ships
3270s	especially against a a rush comp like
3271s	that yeah I I think the decision to go
3274s	all in on The Vindicator at the very
3275s	beginning wasn't necessarily the wrong
3277s	decision at the time um it was basically
3280s	a lot of the damage on that slow
3283s	children that played team was focused in
3284s	The Vindicator uh but there was also the
3287s	estar there's a Vigilant which is
3289s	incredibly squishy and still does a
3291s	decent amount of damage um you had the
3293s	Stratos as well it wasn't so much the
3296s	target priority for DPS it's the fact
3298s	that all of the tackle was centered on
3300s	basically one one or two individuals
3302s	which allowed the rest of the team to
3303s	burn away um once the vindicate once The
3306s	Vindicator goes down you've traded about
3308s	half your team's worth of damage for
3310s	that one ship but the next thing that
3312s	you then have to contend with is the
3313s	fact that the other ships that you want
3315s	to go chasing down have all burned away
3317s	from you there's a lot of travel time
3319s	involved which means that you're not
3320s	doing any damage while you're still
3322s	receiving damage um so yeah I I think
3324s	slow played it very well um trying to
3326s	pull the some of their ships back I know
3328s	that a Stratos was out of position which
3330s	is why we wanted to talk about it um got
3332s	tackled by The Nighthawks but somehow
3334s	managed to survive which makes me think
3336s	that someone may have been a little
3337s	overzealous with their heat um don't
3340s	want to call any Nighthawks out but I am
3344s	I am calling you both out um I think you
3346s	both may be burned your missiles at the
3348s	very end there I'm not quite sure um so
3351s	do let us know but the other thing I
3353s	wanted to say real quick just to get a
3355s	little dig in um only fleets I think is
3359s	the epitome of very experienced small
3361s	gangers on
3363s	TQ not doing so well in the alliance
3365s	tournament right and we talk about
3367s	transferable skills and how much how
3369s	different it is to be playing in a 10
3371s	V10 environment versus on TQ on TQ you
3374s	have a lot of other things that you can
3375s	kind of add in you got you know your
3377s	implant sets you've got you can you can
3379s	pimp your ships um and you can also kind
3381s	of choose your engagements um in the
3383s	1010 environment just because people are
3386s	very experien and very good small
3387s	gangers doesn't always mean that they're
3389s	going to be a good team together or make
3391s	the right choices when they need to be
3393s	made right um and it's about keeping
3396s	that morale up keeping that positive
3398s	mental attitude attitude up sorry um
3401s	when things start to go wrong and not
3403s	just kind of choking and not doing
3405s	anything towards the end um it's
3407s	something that they perhaps need to keep
3409s	in mind I think they should probably try
3411s	another run next year mhm um but yeah
3414s	yeah I think this yeah really epitomizes
3416s	what's gang looks like in in the
3418s	alliance Melinda is one of the pilots on
3420s	the only food side very experienced
3421s	pilot done a lot of things lot of good
3423s	threee crafting uh super valuable to
3425s	have in your team he has done a sort of
3427s	reverse Alliance tournament career
3429s	progress doing worse every year now uh
3432s	from uh when they I think it went second
3434s	when they were still with Odin's call I
3435s	think that was before he left Odin's um
3438s	yeah just slowly getting worse which is
3440s	uh bizarre cuz he is actually very
3442s	talented pilot uh all right so our next
3445s	match is going to be between two small
3447s	relatively unknown alliances uh one of
3449s	them I think they're called let me check
3450s	is goon goon swarm Federation I believe
3453s	is what they go by and the other one is
3454s	pandemic horde so um I don't know much
3457s	about these guys but I think we have a
3459s	video from yeah goonswarm we can have a
3461s	video from them to see what they think
3463s	about
3467s	[Music]
3473s	themselves ladies and gentlemen I am
3475s	bris gral the spokesman for the Goon
3477s	swarm federation's Alliance tournament
3480s	team now is the time for all the small
3482s	gangers in the audience to mute their
3484s	audio and start chirping at me in the
3486s	chat like their toddlers when Paw Patrol
3488s	comes on great now that we got that out
3491s	of the way as you can see our team is a
3493s	little bit distracted right now because
3497s	we're
3498s	moving now I wasn't expecting the fact
3501s	that we would be moving the last time we
3503s	did one of these videos so we said we
3505s	lived in Del well we don't don't live in
3506s	Del anymore at least not going to
3508s	relatively soon we're going to be living
3510s	in tenus and impass and ensia and all
3514s	those places in the
3515s	Southeast now I want to say I hope that
3518s	in the move all of the important things
3521s	like my scotch and like all of the
3524s	Abyssal and other mods that we're going
3526s	to be using in the tournament don't get
3527s	caught in a jump frighter on the 49 T 8
3531s	that would suck anyway we did well in
3534s	the feeders we're looking forward to
3535s	some good fights in the finals assuming
3537s	that Dirk wakes up on time to actually
3540s	fly with the
3541s	team finally I'd like to say good luck
3543s	to everybody competing except horde and
3546s	we look forward to seeing you all at the
3554s	tournament there you are good swarm
3556s	Federation uh and uh I can't tell if
3559s	that was brisk and Frank in the same
3561s	room at the same time I've never seen
3562s	that before which is interesting uh so
3564s	you know who knows maybe we can debunk
3565s	some uh some some fake videos I'm not
3567s	convinced that is entirely real all
3569s	right we have only a couple minutes
3570s	before this match and this one should be
3571s	an interesting one let's just take a
3572s	look at the bands so good swarm
3574s	Federation uh they are Banning out the
3577s	Loki the abadon the curse the Armageddon
3579s	Navy issue and the onos meanwhile
3582s	pandemic hord also Banning out the
3584s	Armageddon uh the abadin the prophecy
3586s	Navy issue the EOS and the Deacon uh
3588s	fear what do you think about these bands
3589s	here so uh to me it screams first of all
3593s	you take out the Loki we don't want to
3595s	get rushed that's the key sh for a lot
3596s	of rushes as we were discussing but they
3598s	also don't want to deal with some of
3599s	these armor projection setups and some
3601s	of the new pressure that the armag Navy
3602s	issue and the abadon can bring uh and
3605s	the curse no tracking disruption
3607s	honestly it's kind of a hodg podge of
3609s	like we don't want to face generally
3612s	strong armor ships um Banning the curse
3615s	specifically is a little bit weird to me
3617s	because typically when you see bands
3618s	targeted towards uh tracking disruption
3621s	you ban multiple of those ships and not
3623s	just the curse so maybe goons have some
3625s	particular read on what pandemic hord
3627s	can bring but uh either than that goons
3630s	kind of just generally armor bands and
3632s	they don't want to get rushed yep and
3634s	speaking of russes uh hord are bringing
3636s	their Flagship Vindicator in this match
3638s	so um unless it's some really bizarre
3640s	kiting rail Vindicator uh which if
3643s	that's the case you should feel bad um
3645s	this probably will be some sort of like
3646s	Rush armor control comp it'll be up to
3648s	gwor Federation to to cter that see if
3650s	they can come out with W um usually
3653s	goror Federation plenty of L's in the
3655s	alliance tournament so I'm kind of
3656s	rooting for them here to hope that they
3657s	get a a nice solid dub for a change uh I
3660s	don't know if darkk has woken up have
3662s	not had the confirmation for that but we
3663s	will find out so let's hand over to the
3665s	uh the commentators for this exciting
3670s	match hello I am moderator joined by
3673s	Brett Bart pirate here for another
3676s	exciting match between pandemic horde
3678s	and the goonswarm Federation two Titans
3682s	of NC block Warfare now 10 V10 instead
3685s	of 1 V 1000 so pandemic hord has elected
3689s	to bring their Flagship Vindicator
3692s	piloted by villy and they're going to be
3694s	in a bit of an armor control rush and
3697s	walk me through the Goon comp so uh goon
3699s	storm Federation has decided to uh kind
3702s	of do something that they're not known
3703s	for and they are going to be trying to
3705s	Elite PVP a little bit here with a heavy
3707s	missile and Rapid light setup uh you
3710s	know cord around a scimitar and they
3713s	have some kiting Gators which is a
3715s	little bit strange but we will see how
3716s	it is you know goons have always done
3718s	their own thing and the match has
3720s	started and right off the bat we are
3722s	seeing goons realize that they should
3723s	probably not get close to a Vindicator
3725s	and are heading the other direction yeah
3727s	that's understandable usually in these
3728s	missile kitec you'll see people run away
3731s	immediately or they'll go towards a
3732s	beacon right so villy again in the last
3735s	match uh they dealt with a shield kite
3737s	comp against um evasive maneuvering and
3740s	unfortunately they lost to that so right
3741s	now what we're seeing is uh no initial
3744s	Target paint on the nurgle uh pandemic
3747s	horde it makes a lot of sense to me if
3749s	you're in this kind of goon comp you
3750s	know you're not going to be able to kill
3752s	any of the battleships you'd really have
3753s	to work through the low end and then
3755s	maybe the guardian absolutely and it
3757s	does look like that uh goons are
3759s	currently trying to take a nurgle down
3761s	but very very difficult chip to take
3762s	down um it is successfully cting the
3764s	drones off and actually the nurgle is
3765s	ramming in right now going for a tackle
3768s	and it looks like that we have a
3769s	alligator tackled and Fleet Cyclone
3771s	tackled which is not how you want your
3772s	kiding setup to be starting off at so uh
3775s	little bit of danger here battleships
3776s	are moving into position very very
3777s	quickly here if goons cannot clear this
3779s	tackle they are about to start losing
3780s	ships very fast you know I might have
3782s	missed it is it possible that villy hit
3783s	a micro jump drive play or did they just
3785s	approach on this Ken comp because we see
3787s	everything going on at 110 kilometers
3790s	off of the very center of the Arena the
3792s	snurgle is getting pounded but Ranchi is
3794s	continuing to run through all of his ASB
3796s	charges and he doesn't have much left no
3798s	he doesn't and uh they did not do an mjd
3800s	play they just got rammed and uh
3802s	everybody knows that ramming is the
3803s	ultimate way to play this game uh Ranchi
3805s	already dropping very very quickly now
3806s	in range of those two battleships and
3808s	fortunately for goons they forgot that
3810s	when you're playing kite you need to
3811s	actually kite because they are now down
3812s	one ship which is not where you want to
3814s	be that being said uh goons are taking
3816s	the crucifier out which is probably
3817s	playing absolute Havoc with their
3819s	ability to do damage yeah understandable
3822s	so the crucifier and the arbitrator
3823s	right we've been talking about how these
3825s	ships can do a lot to mitigate against a
3827s	kite comp whether that be missiles
3829s	whether or not that be guns right and
3832s	goons might have been in a bit of a
3833s	situation where they're like oh um we
3835s	can't actually project any damage we
3836s	have to get close and realizing that the
3839s	crucifier maybe they weren't able to
3841s	kill it they're now swapping onto bartac
3842s	Francis of that guardian and meanwhile
3845s	Lord Jackson is getting rather low a lot
3847s	of spread damage across this comp it
3849s	it's kind of what you'd expect you know
3851s	what gets tackled is what you're going
3852s	to be shooting at Lord Jackson does have
3854s	a Vindicator that is of the flagship
3857s	variety hitting him right now uh the
3859s	guardian does appear to have gotten out
3860s	of range and that was mitigating the
3862s	damage a little bit though it is very
3863s	difficult to actually outrange things
3865s	but uh some how I'm not actually sure
3867s	how but it appears they have stopped
3869s	doing DPS to Lord Jackson because uh
3872s	apparently the super tackled Vindicator
3873s	Webb alligator is able to tank and I
3875s	think that this Guardian is actually
3877s	going to go down and it does before Lord
3878s	Jackson so the game kind of just got
3880s	opened up again yeah that's a little bit
3882s	um different so uh it looked like that
3885s	the G the alligator and other things oh
3886s	the mol has boundary violated to 144
3889s	kmet um not sure quite what happened
3892s	with that yeah I I mean I got sometimes
3896s	you know sometimes you're just too busy
3897s	watching the match instead of watching
3899s	where your ship is going but uh again
3901s	this alligator it is probably going to
3903s	go down but it lived way longer than it
3905s	had any right to amazing Lodie pilot on
3907s	that end and uh I don't know if pic
3910s	decides to continue to boundary violate
3911s	their ships they might actually have
3912s	some trouble here the Confessor goes
3914s	down and goons are actually doing really
3915s	good Target calling they are wiping out
3916s	anything that can actually tackle them
3918s	and if you noticed nothing of goons
3920s	swarm is tackled now with the exception
3922s	I say that and then the Scimitar gets
3923s	grabbed but the nurgle also goes down so
3926s	uh the citar is no longer tackled once
3928s	again um very very good play on goons
3930s	they kind of choked a little bit in the
3931s	beginning there but now they're just
3932s	completely wiping the lowend out and
3933s	this might turn into one of those
3934s	matches where goon is just going to kite
3936s	around for the rest of the match they
3938s	don't actually need to kill that much
3939s	more Pam mord as this crucifier goes
3942s	down the matches tied 69 and 69 which
3944s	are absolutely the best numbers to be
3946s	tied at yeah I mean I also have to agree
3948s	that's pretty nice so what we're seeing
3950s	now is that the Scimitar actually has
3951s	been held down of the kite comp and that
3953s	looks like a Grappler and a heavy web so
3956s	something that people don't always think
3957s	about is that The Vindicator it doesn't
3959s	have a bonus to its web range but you
3961s	know if you have a top tier officer web
3963s	and you heat it you can hit in the
3964s	mid-30s and that's a 90% web and when a
3966s	simitar is going six meters a second I'm
3969s	thinking you got caught by a Vindicator
3970s	yeah it is uh it did get explod defied
3972s	we saw it lose half of its shield in a
3974s	single volley which is about what you
3976s	would expect there and also now we have
3978s	a Jacka that is uh tied down so you know
3981s	I feel like goons were doing a good job
3982s	kiing and then they started not doing a
3984s	good job kiing uh Jack dies very very
3986s	quickly this maggus is getting hit quite
3988s	hard as well as Pawn effects it's kind
3990s	of just a little bit crazy they're sort
3992s	of just spreading damage and hitting
3993s	everything they can um I this is still
3996s	very very close but I think it's a a bit
3998s	of an uphill battle now for goons you
4000s	know they were tied up for a bit now
4001s	they're having some trouble should take
4003s	this ponix down here in just a second
4004s	and as those link drop things do become
4006s	a lot harder to kite also you know
4008s	they've been slowly damaging this
4010s	Redeemer down U I don't know goons are
4012s	just kind of they're really stressing
4013s	them out in a lot of ways everyone's
4015s	taking tons of damage here yeah so this
4017s	Vindicator right now is being um
4019s	scrammed by what appears to be uh the
4022s	Merlin of all things the hero uh
4024s	dropping that so goonswarm I think
4026s	they're making the right call they're
4027s	going for the low end realizing that
4029s	punching through the Redeemer um when
4031s	you still have the links is going to be
4032s	difficult but now uh pandemic horde um
4035s	you know they're punching through the
4036s	low end and with 4 minutes and um about
4039s	30 seconds realizing that okay if we
4042s	break through the Redeemer we kill the
4043s	arbitrator we can just stay away get
4046s	away from The Vindicator we don't have
4047s	to kill it we can just out point and win
4050s	yeah and it definitely does help that uh
4051s	it took uh villy quite a while to
4054s	remember that he does in fact have 90%
4056s	webs which he then applied to the person
4057s	tackle him and blew him up uh one thing
4059s	when you screen a Vindicator they will
4060s	vindicate you back uh does look like
4062s	while the Merlin is down and villy is
4064s	free the Redeemer is also dropping
4066s	because there's still so much damage and
4068s	so now uh somehow as as we would kind of
4071s	expect we have a very messy match where
4073s	you know goons have four ships left
4074s	pandemic cord has two but one of them is
4076s	still that Flagship Vindicator which is
4078s	very very powerful yeah so just doing
4080s	kind of the quick math here um goor
4082s	Federation is up 14 points here so villy
4085s	um really what he's going to have to do
4086s	is he's going to have to um probably try
4089s	to maybe play for a micro jump drive
4090s	beak and get on top of something uh
4092s	because he will have the officer um
4095s	micro warp drive which will speed you up
4096s	a little bit but you're not going to be
4097s	as fast as an orthis right or a gator so
4100s	you're going to have to try to maybe get
4101s	to a center Beacon or use that officer
4103s	web or Grappler somehow to slow
4105s	something down uh and we see Grant here
4107s	doing a really good job in jackdaw he's
4109s	just gone off in propulsion mode or to
4112s	um longrange targeting mode rather he's
4114s	just pumping damage safely getting
4115s	chased down by some light drones yeah
4117s	and uh so Vilas actually looks like that
4120s	he's chasing after the gator of uh Durk
4122s	satel who I believe is the captain or
4125s	the co- captain of the Goon Storm Team
4126s	uh they're very very close but I don't
4129s	think there was like this brief moment I
4131s	swear he was probably like sitting there
4132s	mashing the button trying to get it to
4133s	activate cuz I think he was almost in
4135s	range for split second there but uh uh V
4137s	has realized that he is not catching the
4139s	gator and is now turning around and kind
4142s	of just looking at like he's okay where
4144s	what do I get what do I get and you know
4145s	goons are kind of playing this perfectly
4147s	uh Grant's jackob probably is going to
4150s	go down here though so he is oh he's
4152s	doing the perfect thing so he was
4153s	getting chased by a cloud of drones and
4155s	he was get a micro jump drive but the
4157s	drones killed him before and if he
4158s	wasn't in defensive mode uh you know
4160s	shooting in targeting mode he would have
4162s	had less HP critically though that you
4165s	know was good to get the points on the
4167s	board but it's not enough so pandemic
4169s	horde is probably going to lose their
4171s	arbitrator in the next couple minutes
4172s	meaning that they'll be down a total of
4174s	16 points so Bell Coast won't be enough
4176s	you have to catch an orthis have to
4178s	catch a gator if you're Vil in the next
4179s	two minutes and orthis is are not known
4182s	for getting caught no um I I don't think
4187s	villy is going to have to either do some
4188s	amazing piloting you know as they uh
4189s	arbitrator now goes down or they're
4192s	going or pandemic cord is going to have
4193s	to massively um not V goons from are
4196s	going to have to massively mess up here
4197s	and you know goons doing a really good
4200s	job here uh basically we have a
4201s	Vindicator just kind of flailing around
4203s	helplessly in the middle of the Arena
4205s	trying to chase something down uh slowly
4207s	going down there's you know there's
4208s	actually a lot of damage still on field
4210s	that flag vindy could still die I I mean
4214s	I look at its defense bar and yes it's
4215s	got some of the uh drones that are on
4217s	top of it uh but if I'm goonswarm
4220s	Federation what I'm going to do now is
4222s	I'm trying to put all of my ships on an
4224s	mjd Beacon get away from that Vindicator
4227s	and as soon as it tries to get close to
4228s	me I'm going to try to jump um again
4232s	this oruro is getting rather close I
4233s	hope he's not entirely kind of capped
4235s	out you should be able to outrun uh we
4238s	see the orthus is going around 7 800
4240s	kmers a second faster yeah I I don't
4242s	think the I don't think the Vindicator
4243s	catches it I think actually uh villy and
4246s	it's it might be too late because they
4248s	only have a minute left but villy needs
4249s	to get onto an njd Beacon and instead of
4251s	we're seeing the the classic battles
4254s	shery where there you know helplessly
4256s	chasing ships that are much much faster
4258s	than them oh no villy you know what
4259s	looking at the trajectory he's going I
4261s	think he approaching yeah and what you
4263s	need to do in this kind of situation is
4265s	you need to anticipate where you think
4267s	the ship is going to be and try to chase
4269s	but villy I don't know if his prop has
4271s	been burnt out cuz he's not going
4272s	anywhere now you know this could be
4274s	hands could be off the keyboard right
4276s	now um but yeah the the prop has been
4279s	cut I don't know if he burnt it I don't
4280s	know if he just decided to turn it off
4282s	uh I don't know if he has given up hope
4284s	I could kind of understand it with
4285s	seconds left in the match but uh yeah
4287s	and you know yeah I was going to say
4290s	he's kind of dropping low but then he
4291s	just repped up big big magical Flagship
4293s	reps um crazy match that's that's about
4296s	what we expected something wild yeah I
4298s	expected something absolutely messy and
4300s	we got a very very messy match but
4302s	goonswarm Federation uh proving that at
4304s	least um on Tranquility uh they are the
4307s	Better Block when it comes to um maybe
4310s	not Bob blob warfare that's to be
4312s	determined but better in the 10v 10
4314s	Arena than pandemic cord that's fair we
4317s	already knew that though let's be real
4319s	um I don't know if we did but we do now
4322s	and we'll send it to a break and to the
4323s	death to break that one
4325s	down SW Federation they get it they get
4328s	a w they win they they beat pandemic
4330s	horde knocking pandemic horde out of
4333s	Alliance tournament 20 hord uh do at
4335s	least keep their Flagship Vindicator uh
4338s	I assume that it would be relatively
4340s	pricey uh coming from uh a man of such
4343s	resources as villy uh almost certainly
4345s	it would be a very spicy meatball um
4348s	fear talk to me about that match what
4350s	happened what happened what did hord do
4351s	wrong so what hord did was they saw the
4354s	abadin was banned by goons and they
4356s	replaced the abadin in their comp from
4358s	yesterday with a redeemer and then what
4360s	goons did was say horde is not going to
4363s	bring a different comp than yesterday
4365s	and they lost H Mite yesterday so we're
4366s	going to bring H Mite and horde and so
4369s	what we saw was a repeat of yesterday
4371s	with worse execution than what evasive
4373s	maneuvering did but still a repeat of
4375s	yesterday exploring the exact same
4377s	weaknesses that Hort had in the comp and
4380s	in the actual gameplay yesterday coming
4383s	out with the w yeah and yeah goods are
4385s	on the uh the low bracket tear now
4388s	straight to the Grand finals let's go
4390s	I'm all about that now uh mystical kns
4392s	your thoughts on that match uh I just
4394s	wish Nani flew as well as he drank I met
4396s	him in Vegas he he convinced me that
4399s	they were going to deliberately go into
4400s	the losers bracket for the skin run um
4402s	and then I just watched the man boundary
4404s	so um
4406s	buddy come on what what is that we're
4409s	going to need to work on this for next
4410s	year um but yeah no um it it was sad um
4415s	to see at the very end I think villy may
4416s	have burned his prop mod um started
4418s	crawling around at like 155 meters a
4420s	second there routs um and then the
4422s	orthus also seemed to slow down almost
4425s	immediately afterwards uh but sadly just
4427s	due to the distances involved vly wasn't
4430s	able to capitalize unsure if the author
4432s	us burn their prop mod out um but if
4434s	they did then had really still had his
4437s	prop mod I think hord would have won
4438s	that match so it's it it came down to
4440s	fine margins um and like f said I think
4443s	the execution was a bit shaky from goons
4446s	um they brought a kite comp and then
4447s	proceeded to not kite at the very
4448s	beginning um got tackled a bunch um
4451s	which made it a lot closer than it
4452s	really should have been yeah there was a
4454s	lot of ships that shouldn't be getting
4455s	uh Vindicator webbed that were getting
4456s	Vindicator webbed in that match I was
4459s	watching the citar uh as the The
4461s	Vindicator just it closed in on it and
4463s	it speed dropped all the way down to I
4464s	think it was six MS before it died once
4466s	you get into the range of a Vindicator
4469s	um there's very little chance you're
4470s	getting out of it it's it's a pretty
4472s	pretty bad spot to be uh in general but
4474s	you know like we say uh Goods take the
4476s	win uh we'll see them again uh that's it
4479s	for hord they can go back to spinning
4481s	isar in in Havens I guess uh I guess
4483s	that's what they do I don't know we
4484s	haven't heard from them for a while um
4486s	but yeah so uh I think we can move on to
4488s	the next match which I think is also
4491s	going to be an interesting one it's
4491s	actually going to be snuffed out versus
4492s	Ronin reloaded and I'm told that we can
4495s	can hear from snuff out directly as we
4497s	have one of their spokespeople on the
4499s	line let's hear them
4501s	there hello I am Wally Mars and I the
4503s	spokesperson for snuff out who are
4505s	competing in the alliance tournament
4507s	snuff out is a lowc PVP Alliance based
4509s	out of Black Rise we've competed in the
4511s	Lions tournament for a total of six
4513s	times we have some teams in the Lions
4515s	tournament that we are very excited to
4516s	fly against namely gench and impact we
4518s	are close friends with our snuff out
4520s	team if snuff out doesn't make it to the
4522s	finals I anticipate either genin impact
4524s	or C of coming out on top both teams
4527s	have a collection of Pilots that are far
4528s	above the skill level of the others if
4531s	you see us in a match for the at I would
4532s	bet Channel points on us because of our
4534s	team's ability to adapt we've come out
4536s	on top in Anger games and at matches in
4539s	the past with the odd stacked against us
4541s	whether it be a counter comp or a team
4542s	that historically does very well we
4544s	won't quit our team captain is n Michael
4547s	he has a lot of experience in both the
4548s	anger games and the at and expects the
4550s	best from our Pilots I hope you enjoy
4552s	watching our team compete as much as I
4554s	will
4556s	[Music]
4558s	and there we have it so that is snuffed
4559s	out uh letting us know what they do in E
4562s	online except sit in on Gates uh with
4564s	expensive ships and just kind of farm
4566s	kill Mills they like to do that as well
4568s	uh all right so let's take a look at the
4570s	the bands I don't sure if we have the
4571s	bands available yet actually no we don't
4573s	so we'll come back to those in a little
4574s	bit mytical M uh talk to me about uh
4576s	snuff we talked about them a bit
4578s	yesterday they can be a very sort of
4580s	like when it works it works and when it
4582s	doesn't it really doesn't team they they
4584s	showed a lot of potential in the feeders
4585s	they executed really well brought some
4587s	smart comps and other times they've
4589s	brought just kind of garbage and done
4590s	really poorly so it's kind of which
4592s	version of snuf we're going to get they
4594s	did lose yesterday um was it they just
4597s	got beaten or are they not a good team
4600s	this year Well R me did they bring
4602s	flists yesterday they brought flumist ah
4604s	um terrible terrible choices um I'm not
4607s	a fan of the Tempest Fleet issue so um I
4611s	do think that with a bit more the
4613s	crafting they had so many options
4615s	available to them that I think that
4617s	bringing the Tempest Fleet wasn't the
4619s	ideal Choice um but I do think that they
4623s	are able to execute fairly well um we've
4625s	seen them do really well with some of
4627s	the shield kite setups um or at least
4629s	like medium gun span but with a shield
4631s	fit using their range Advantage um to
4634s	win out matches in the feeders so I
4636s	think that they should kind of just
4637s	Resort back to some of the things that
4639s	they're comfortable with um maybe just
4641s	drop the fists pick anything else Dees
4645s	no no not again four demoses please hey
4649s	medium gun spam it will it will work it
4652s	will work Shield demoses please oh God
4655s	uh please do not listen to what he says
4656s	all right let's take a look at the band
4657s	snuff Dart versus Ronin reloaded so
4660s	snuff D Banning out the EOS the arthurus
4662s	the Loki and the armagedon Navy issue
4665s	meanwhile Ronin are Banning out the onus
4667s	the abadon the kerries and the mullus
4670s	fear what do you think about these bands
4671s	here so uh snuffed out once again
4674s	Banning that Loki don't want to get
4675s	rushed um meanwhile they ban out orthis
4678s	which is just generally strong for
4679s	missile kite and then EOS is uh very
4682s	common for armor uh links and then get
4685s	Navy issues just get Navy issue um
4687s	meanwhile Roden reloaded uh again it's
4689s	just kind of General armor bands you ban
4692s	the carries um you ban them all so they
4694s	don't want to get damped but things like
4696s	the celestus are still up on the table
4698s	if they want to do that um but they also
4699s	ban the aneros so they don't want to
4701s	face any sort of T2 armor logy and don't
4703s	want to be uh dealing with s medium gun
4706s	spam comp yeah and we can see a nice
4707s	little sneak preview here of the new
4709s	carries model um it's gaining some some
4712s	girth um yeah Mr any any further
4714s	thoughts on going to say that carries
4716s	was looking mighty like a turkey I don't
4718s	know it's uh not not the carries I'm
4720s	used to but I'm looking forward to some
4722s	changes it's the new model yeah it looks
4724s	good um no I I think it should be an
4726s	interesting match I'm hoping that um
4729s	snuff have made some revisions to their
4730s	comps um because I do think that they
4733s	have the ability to make a fairly decent
4734s	run
4735s	um it it will just come down to whether
4737s	they actually bring a good setup really
4741s	for me okay uh so I mean we haven't done
4743s	it yet today because we've been too busy
4744s	yapping on about other stuff but let's
4746s	do some predictions fear what's your
4747s	prediction in this match snuffed out or
4748s	ruin reloaded I'm going to go with
4750s	snuffed out here uh run and reloaded a
4753s	relatively new team to the alliance
4754s	tournament uh snuffed out has some
4756s	veteran members and have actually added
4758s	some members of uh XL teams on their
4760s	roster so uh despite their performance
4763s	yesterday I think they probably have The
4765s	Experience Advantage here and should be
4767s	able to win this one out yeah I think I
4769s	agree with you uh they yeah you pointed
4771s	out uh some very experienced members
4772s	from PL have joined the snuff team uh so
4775s	hopefully we get to see a solid snuff
4777s	performance here Mr Gite do you agree or
4779s	do you think roren could take this I'm
4782s	going to predict that whichever team
4783s	wins is the one that I'm going to pick
4785s	and uh I'm going to wait until after the
4786s	match to tell you which team I'm
4788s	supporting okay I have no idea you've
4790s	locked it in your head right you would
4791s	you wouldn't possibly change that it
4793s	yeah yeah for sure definitely yeah okay
4795s	okay good to know that we can trust you
4796s	like that uh I see twitch chat you guys
4798s	are also predicting uh with your channel
4799s	points uh you should definitely gamble
4801s	all of them uh snar is the favorites
4803s	though 1.2 million to 800,000 so it's
4805s	not a heavy favorite but it's still a
4806s	favorite so let's head over to the arena
4808s	and see who's going to win between
4810s	snuffed out and Ronin
4813s	reloaded welcome back to the alliance
4815s	tournament where we have snuffed out
4817s	versus Ronin reloaded where uh as the
4819s	commentators predicted it seems that we
4821s	have the other snuffed out this time as
4822s	they have decided to bring a shield
4825s	medium gun setup that is very
4826s	reminiscent of what they stomped in the
4828s	feeders that made us all think oh this
4830s	is snuffed out's good this is going to
4831s	be great and here they are again and
4833s	they're going to be going up against
4834s	Ronin reloaded who brought something
4836s	that moderator was kind of H about yeah
4839s	so Ronin reloaded has seen that oh hey
4842s	so genon Navy is banned we're just going
4844s	to bring the regular genon but crucially
4846s	that these are going to be uh no Hardo
4848s	so what that means is no rapid uh heavy
4850s	no cruise missile so they're all going
4852s	to be NES on top so they have two two
4855s	giant curses supported by aarm and
4857s	double arbitrator that if those have
4858s	tracking disruption and we'll see here
4860s	in a minute uh could play Havoc with
4862s	snuff if I'm snuff I probably need to
4863s	get um you know a lot of damage very
4866s	early get on top of uh you know these
4868s	Ronin support ships and there's a lot of
4870s	tracking disruption going on there there
4872s	is a lot of tracking disruption um they
4874s	almost snuff almost sniped the ponix
4876s	right off the bat so that was actually
4877s	uh that could have been the game right
4879s	there if you lose links that fast it is
4881s	absolutely horrible a little bit of
4882s	damage spread going out snuff is
4883s	extremely tracking disrupted right right
4885s	now um at least uh five or six tracking
4887s	disruptors potentially more I think that
4890s	Ronin maybe read them a little bit here
4892s	but that being said the trick with
4894s	tracking disruptors is you can do the
4895s	greatest strategy of all time and even
4897s	online the video game which is ram in
4899s	and press F1 on a single Target so if
4901s	snuff decides to brawl out the nice
4903s	thing about the Ronin reloaded team for
4905s	snuff is that they don't actually have
4907s	that much damage yeah so the Ronin
4909s	reloaded team is actually giving Chase
4910s	with these gons they're trying to close
4912s	meanwhile the snuffed out team is
4914s	approaching one of these mjd beacons at
4916s	the very bottom of the map we see some
4918s	chip damage with drones being assigned
4920s	across the board uh snuff trying to
4922s	maybe harass a little bit in the
4923s	backline with some of that but neither
4925s	side really committing all that much so
4927s	snuffed out their attack bar being
4928s	rather low again that's going to be a
4930s	lot of this tracking disruption really
4932s	just not been committed and Ronan
4933s	reloaded again double Armageddon double
4936s	arbitrator Magus ponx and two vexor not
4940s	a lot of damage uh but a lot of control
4942s	and they are applying these NES to the
4944s	citar to the Navy far trying to just
4946s	really Whittle down the capacitor I mean
4948s	the longer you go against these medium
4950s	Battleship holes with heavy NES the
4951s	worse but meanwhile look at the snap to
4954s	the Magus yeah they they did almost take
4955s	it down it does appear to have been even
4957s	catching reps um one of the things about
4959s	this is that uh though again Navy Fox is
4962s	tackled by foror not a great thing but
4965s	that isn't actually that bad because we
4967s	have citar reps which are fantastic
4969s	versus a very very low amount of damage
4971s	um it does look like sn's kind of just
4972s	trying to do a little bit of positioning
4973s	fight here uh they are going to
4976s	basically they've kind of balled up
4978s	around the Navy far they've like okay
4980s	well you know what you tackle them
4981s	they're spreading out snuff is actually
4983s	kind of rushing a little bit around I
4985s	think they might be about to go for the
4986s	back line here so enough what actually
4988s	they've done here we can see that the
4990s	damage is going on to Razer they've
4991s	swapped to antimatter they're going to
4992s	close and try to just punch through uh
4995s	that Armageddon before the um zad of bed
4997s	de boss can get a full spool and with
4999s	this much damage off these Shield chips
5001s	I think they might just be able to do it
5002s	meanwhile throwing some drones onto
5005s	harass the Confessor uh really force a
5007s	split rep situation which is very good
5009s	against his arm it is and the thing is
5011s	is too is that uh you know they're
5012s	switching they might break the arm again
5014s	I feel like it's going to be one of
5015s	those ones will the rep spool up enough
5016s	in time for them to actually do it uh
5018s	but even if they don't they're in
5019s	perfect position to snap to the other
5021s	one so we're going to see what happens
5022s	this is very very tight it looks like
5023s	it's about to start bleeding structure
5025s	here but again as these reps slowly
5028s	spool up there's a chance that we might
5029s	see it go completely other direction and
5030s	then snuff is going to have to Target
5031s	call uh that being said for laoren is
5033s	starting to break the NES and the Drone
5035s	damage uh starting to make it very very
5037s	difficult to tank it but the structure
5039s	is beginning to bleed of Razor Razor's
5042s	Armageddon so I really what snuff is
5044s	doing here what they've done is they
5045s	spread out a lot of damage between Kira
5047s	and on that pontif effect and the Magus
5049s	and maybe realizing okay maybe we don't
5051s	break Razer here but we're going to
5052s	break a ponx we're going to break a
5053s	Magus you're not going to be able to
5054s	spool um you know to save some of these
5056s	smaller ships and if you break the links
5059s	you know eventually you can come back
5060s	and say hey now we're going to kill your
5062s	gon they can do that but it does look
5064s	like the genon is is actually catching
5065s	the the power of those spooling reps and
5067s	hopefully I think snuff might have left
5069s	it a little bit late here to do a Target
5070s	SWOT because like if you're not breaking
5072s	it through those reps you are never
5074s	going to break it it does look like they
5075s	are swapping over to the Magus and the
5076s	Magus is very very low and the Magus
5078s	goes down and that is absolutely massive
5080s	here uh those are the Skirmish links
5082s	those potentially are some armor links
5084s	that is really huge uh that being said
5085s	you know forn is starting to finally
5087s	bleed into armor but we're really seeing
5089s	the anemic DPS of these drone comps uh
5091s	it does look like we did just lose a uh
5094s	a breaker um just kind of out of nowhere
5097s	just got slapped by drones happens and
5098s	we are about to also lose this FX Navy
5101s	issue yeah so I mean yeah they're going
5103s	to kill a fedu Navy issue and we do see
5105s	damage onto the Scimitar but it's taken
5107s	them four minutes to kill a single
5109s	Battleship our battle cruiser rather
5111s	meanwhile snuffed um really needs to
5114s	figure out like what they're going to do
5115s	with a lot of their damage um they're
5117s	going after looks like midnight at
5119s	Advent in the Confessor and maybe now
5121s	trying to go onto the Armageddon we see
5123s	more damage um realizing that hey maybe
5126s	with the spool having dropped off the
5127s	genon to try to save um that you know
5130s	Magus earlier that the spool might not
5132s	be fully there but uh snuff Scimitar is
5135s	rather rather low at the moment and
5136s	dipping down into uh armor that said we
5139s	do see an ASB two vexor though in the
5141s	backline are just chilling on top of the
5143s	simitar uh Fury and slave Matt doing a
5146s	really really good job they're just
5147s	completely isolating and neutralizing
5149s	the Scimitar yeah it's uh it's it's not
5151s	in a great spot and this is kind of a
5152s	big deal the citar is very very far away
5154s	the INF fessor does finally drop here um
5157s	which they've been kind of like you said
5158s	but I the thing about this is is right
5160s	you have a you have a tackled Scimitar
5162s	it's too far away from anything like I
5165s	don't know what the damage from like it
5167s	seems like Ronin is kind of spreading
5169s	their DPS here where I think at any
5171s	point in time like they can just send
5172s	drones and kill the citar because
5174s	they're slowly feeding some of these
5175s	ships like both their link ships are
5177s	down now um that me said you know SAR is
5180s	starting to drop but every time those
5181s	those big ASB charges are going to keep
5182s	it up for probably at least another
5183s	minute or two and uh I've been watching
5185s	the snuffed out chips they really have
5187s	never stopped shooting the gon like even
5189s	when they stop shooting the genon they
5190s	just kind of switch back and like okay
5191s	maybe we should shoot the genon again
5192s	that does look like they're doing some
5193s	damage to the zarm though critically the
5195s	zarm is taking a lot of damage from
5197s	medium range guns and this Sky Breer of
5199s	the quartermaster is approaching in
5201s	rather much remic okay so the sky Breer
5203s	does get scram web on top of the zarm we
5205s	see a cloud of drones hitting that zarm
5208s	if they punch through the zarm here I
5209s	mean it's snuff you know their simitar
5211s	is getting low dto is about to die but I
5214s	mean justtin points if you kill a zarm
5216s	and you can eventually punch through Aon
5218s	you're going to be in a pretty good spot
5219s	yeah no I I agree and I think they
5221s	should get this zarm uh it's very
5223s	tackled and just the drones alone will
5224s	probably get it um but again snuff is
5226s	kind of they're being weird here right
5229s	if like if you look at the position a
5230s	lot of their ships are very spread out
5231s	when I think that they're un tackled
5232s	they're spread out and they have an
5233s	opportunity to really push in there
5234s	because the only thing that's actually
5236s	kind of tackled is a fantasm with a
5238s	Grappler uh snuff can basically be free
5241s	like their citar tackled off in the
5242s	middle of nowhere snuff can like pull
5245s	everybody off and go blow up the zarm
5246s	right now and they're not doing that and
5248s	I don't know why well some of the
5250s	trouble they might be having is that um
5252s	their fantasm has been grappled down
5254s	that fantasm has been doing actually a
5256s	pretty good job uh previously of holding
5258s	down um the Armageddon of um excuse me
5262s	looks like uh poy uh po at Fila in the
5266s	kind of the back line but that's kind of
5267s	given up at this point snuff is trying
5269s	to get damage onto the zarm and maybe
5272s	trying to get onto the arbitrator here
5274s	as well well but um it's kind of anic
5277s	damage it it is they're starting to get
5279s	in there and you do have to remember you
5280s	know there are two arbitrators that are
5281s	probably tracking disrupting them into
5283s	utter Oblivion now that some of the
5285s	ships have gotten a lot closer like we
5286s	have fantasms that are basically on top
5288s	of his arm at this point uh they're
5289s	being able to kill it uh looks like this
5291s	MOA is actually dropping very very
5292s	quickly moa's weirdly not that tanky in
5295s	the alliance tournament so uh Ronin has
5297s	realized that maybe they should actually
5298s	start killing things the Moa drops and
5300s	it looks like the simitar is finally out
5301s	of ASB charges at about the time we
5303s	would expect it but they are probably
5304s	going to go do Lodi trade here uh that
5306s	zarm is getting very very low incredibly
5308s	tanky Lodi [ __ ] but it's not going to
5310s	survive all that long the question is
5312s	does snuff still have enough DPS left to
5314s	do anything off this yeah so just kind
5315s	of looking at the point calculations so
5317s	snuff really has to kill the armarm and
5319s	then they have to kill an Armageddon but
5321s	they have to do it in the span of two
5323s	minutes and what I'm looking at is a lot
5325s	of Republic Fleet Warriors that are on
5327s	top of his arm and meanwhile the fantasm
5329s	of agodon is getting rather low they
5331s	can't lose a fantasm at this point and
5333s	you know kill his arm and a get in it's
5335s	not going to be enough points no uh it's
5337s	not and you know I think one of the
5338s	things too that's really really just
5340s	hurting them right now like those
5341s	tracking disruptors are insane and I
5343s	think that as we're seeing the zarm
5345s	actually start to claw back here a
5346s	little bit um I think that what happened
5348s	is now that so many ships on the snuffs
5350s	team are dead you know there's only
5352s	three real turret ship okay sorry two
5354s	real turret ships as the fantasm drops
5356s	and uh they're able to focus so many of
5358s	those arbitrator track IND disruptors on
5359s	it that they can't even hit aarm even
5361s	though they're basically on top of it
5363s	yeah I mean look how fast this
5364s	arbitrators dying though I feel like if
5366s	snuff had really instead of gone like
5367s	all in for the zarm and realized that
5369s	yeah we've got this zarm kind of tackled
5371s	in Narnia we can commit to the
5373s	arbitrator the's probably not even range
5375s	to rep it and we can really break the uh
5378s	arbitrator um snuff members now giving a
5381s	GF in local unfortunately this will be
5383s	the end of the road for snuff out yeah
5386s	no it it was it was a pretty messy uh
5388s	pretty messy win I would say on ronin's
5390s	team but you know at the end of the day
5391s	they still have their entire core um it
5394s	maybe took a little longer than it
5395s	needed to but snuff is starting to lose
5397s	their last few ships here uh you know
5399s	the vulture standing strong and draging
5401s	disrupted into Oblivion arbitrators I
5403s	mean that's kind of The Unsung ship
5405s	almost like they've been doing so much
5406s	work this entire tournament yeah I mean
5408s	we kind of have talked about how some
5410s	teams have committed you know 30 points
5412s	of arbitrators like fraternity did and
5414s	it was completely ineffectual but there
5416s	are other times where not only are they
5418s	just good they just outright carry the
5421s	match for you and this is one of those
5422s	cases where they just shut down so many
5425s	points and Ronan did a good enough job
5426s	with the vexor a good enough job with
5428s	the Confessor of really screening things
5430s	out and dragging it out long enough
5432s	where snuffed out maybe didn't even have
5434s	the damage um or capacitor really to
5437s	even activate their guns I mean you have
5438s	to think with two gons you know battle
5441s	cruiser um you know capacitor is not
5443s	that good at the end of the day no and
5445s	they are sh battle Cruisers as well so
5447s	generally you know you do have to make
5448s	an actual conscious decision of do I
5450s	want to be able to deal with NES or do I
5452s	want to be able to deal with taking
5454s	damage and uh at the end of the day I'm
5455s	not sure if snuff was completely nuded
5457s	out or if they just didn't have the
5459s	ability to attack anything but Ronin
5461s	reloaded does win 164 points to 34 uh
5464s	kicking snuffed out of the tournament
5465s	and back to loc where they belong and we
5467s	will send this back to the
5470s	desk snuffed out being snuffed out uh
5473s	once again from Alliance tournament 20
5475s	they they can go home they can go back
5476s	to LC and uh start dropping faxes on
5478s	things all the time with all their
5479s	Marshals again plenty of time for that
5481s	now um mystical M what happened in that
5484s	match there cuz it really I mean I know
5486s	I just kind of Meed a little bit on
5487s	snuff but just to be clear they went
5489s	down fighting like it was a pretty solid
5491s	performance um in the situation that
5493s	they were in uh they did not just get
5495s	wiped they actually did you know gave it
5497s	a really good run and it could have gone
5499s	either way at one point but break it
5500s	down a little bit more for me yeah okay
5502s	so true to my word I was actually um
5506s	betting on snuff winning here um I
5509s	thought that they actually did have a
5510s	chance when they ended up bringing the
5511s	exact comp that I was suggesting that
5513s	they just go back to um it did have a
5514s	real chance at winning the genon
5517s	actually piloted really well um flying
5519s	away from the medium gun spam um while
5523s	ensuring that the Navy foxes were nuded
5525s	out so it makes it very hard to chase
5527s	when you can't turn your prop mod on um
5529s	every single cycle you know you can get
5530s	a burst in here or there but eventually
5532s	you're going to have to slow down um
5534s	being able to pull away while also being
5535s	zarm wed meant that the genon caught in
5538s	about like 90 95% structure um did trade
5541s	a Magus for it but it meant that the
5544s	snuff team had burn through a bunch of
5546s	cat boosters were wildly out of position
5548s	unable to really capitalize on anything
5550s	and the tracking disruptors from the
5551s	arbitrators meant that they weren't able
5553s	to reach out and kill like the Magus and
5554s	the pon effect at the very beginning um
5556s	so the gons had links the entire time
5559s	which is a huge increase to the
5561s	effective hit points and the repping
5562s	power that the team can put out so I'd
5565s	say and I think fear is going to want to
5568s	expand on this a little bit but uh the
5570s	arbitrators were definitely um one of
5573s	the key parts of the the comp against
5575s	snuff um but I also think that snuff
5577s	should have just kind of brought in um
5579s	they did a good job pulling away and
5580s	trying to draw the team out in the line
5583s	um but I think they should have turned
5584s	sooner um and committed more especially
5587s	the sky Breakers to keep the armag
5588s	getting tackled and I think it's the
5590s	lack of tackle that really clinched the
5592s	loss for snuff here um if they'd been
5594s	able to pin down the Armageddon at the
5596s	very beginning and finish it off I think
5598s	they would have won yeah honestly I
5600s	think I agree with you um we saw some
5601s	really good individual piloting uh that
5603s	scimitar survived for way longer than he
5606s	had any right to survive on uh so you
5608s	know excellent job I'm pretty sure he
5609s	managed to get at least one reload maybe
5610s	even two reloads of e ASB in there which
5613s	is which is you know good heat
5615s	management good good good skills H fear
5617s	these arbitrators uh like Misty said
5619s	they're probably quite an important part
5621s	of that comp tell me about them so uh
5624s	one thing that uh we saw there when the
5627s	match started and I commented about this
5629s	when we were watching the match from
5630s	here on the desk is that uh the
5632s	arbitrators go out and Ty Ally when you
5635s	have two arbitrators in a team comp
5636s	you're going to make a split of uh
5638s	tracking disruption and missile guidance
5640s	disruption that is not what we saw we
5642s	saw uh five tracking disruptors go out
5645s	all over the SN out team which means
5647s	that uh run and reloaded had the read
5649s	that uh SN out was probably going to do
5651s	some form of medium gun spam against
5653s	them and uh with those trackon
5654s	disruptors Grant new as Misty said they
5656s	wanted to brawl in eventually and make
5658s	that commitment as a result of these
5660s	arbitrators being there but it does make
5662s	it more difficult to have the exact r
5664s	range control that you want as a medium
5665s	gun spam when you have uh five maybe six
5668s	tracking disruptors on the enemy team
5670s	and all of your ships uh have guns yep
5674s	so uh that was the last of our losers
5676s	bracket uh matches for now we're going
5678s	to go back into the winners bracket
5680s	winners only uh for the next while and I
5682s	have something uh to show you guys um
5685s	it's quite heavy so give me a second let
5686s	me see if I can I can actually get this
5688s	thing up onto there there we are there
5691s	we are so this is what your competing
5694s	for ladies and gentlemen uh ignore the
5697s	actual plaque on the back as a laser tag
5700s	uh trophy uh but this is actually this
5701s	is a liance tournament 20 the trophy
5704s	this is it it's solid gold it's really
5707s	heavy oh look at that look at that
5708s	camera angle where's the
5711s	focus there it is uh yeah so this is uh
5714s	I know it made it look like it was light
5716s	there but that is just my pure strength
5718s	it is in fact extremely heavy solid
5720s	solid gold uh this is like black gold so
5723s	let's pick but this is what we're
5724s	competing for and our next match in the
5726s	winners bracket between Exodus until
5729s	doomsday till doomsday you're familiar
5731s	with Misty because they knock your team
5732s	into the lower bracket so they're
5734s	already in doing in a great position
5736s	exus are a very experienced team we know
5738s	that and in fact we can hear from Exodus
5741s	right now so let's go to their
5742s	spokesperson
5744s	video pass me some more of those sweet
5746s	leaves and uh what was your name
5749s	again Marcus Jason dude right on from
5754s	exodons right or Exodus you guys live in
5759s	Fuller dude we're just a group of small
5761s	gangers that live in low SEC lot of gas
5763s	huffing and Tess bong action going on in
5765s	413 out there man busy times drop by
5768s	sometime cool ma'am and there in the uh
5772s	G attorney this year
5774s	huh yeah buddy this is our 11th
5777s	tournament over 100 years experience in
5779s	the team well I'm still not betting my
5783s	twitch points on you
5785s	I saw a few of your past at commercials
5787s	and you guys are
5789s	weird thanks bro we were CCP rise's
5793s	preferred tournament Alliance a bunch of
5795s	hosers Bud with a couple Americans and
5797s	an Australian guy named Mr
5799s	Falcon and what did you mean when you
5802s	said The thunderchild Meta guy chill
5805s	open Channel we're hoping the other
5806s	teams haven't figured out this year's
5808s	meta yet cool sorry bro my guy we've got
5812s	the number two Eve online player Quebec
5814s	Wasa QC as our captain this year ZX and
5817s	night blade one of our previous captains
5819s	he's backing him up he taught me
5820s	everything there was to know about baby
5822s	medal and viton he's our alliance leader
5824s	man he bankrolls the dudes makes sure
5826s	they've got some fresh mods guys's a
5828s	straight up Gangster been a new blood on
5830s	the team this year too well right on man
5833s	and good luck this year but I'm g roll
5835s	out to bwf thanks for not warping your
5838s	scepter then for sure dude I was waiting
5841s	for you to decloak your Loki blaz it
5845s	there you are that is Exodus uh and this
5848s	is again as we say what you're all
5850s	competing for uh some expenses have been
5852s	spared in the production of this
5854s	tournament uh but not this one this is
5856s	as I mentioned gold did the gista still
5859s	that they probably did they probably did
5862s	still that that's what they would do
5864s	yeah yeah um all right let's look at the
5865s	bands for till Doomsday versus Exodus
5867s	this is uh going to be an interesting
5868s	set of bands we have a mollus and a
5870s	curse from till doomsday as well as the
5871s	Deacon and the Widow so uh Widow through
5874s	uh removed Exodus Banning out the Loki
5877s	the crucifier the the Zade and the Unos
5880s	uh mytical might what are your quick
5881s	thoughts on these bands here yeah I
5883s	think it's quite interesting to see the
5885s	Z anos ban in the second phase from
5887s	Exodus uh the crucify and the curse kind
5891s	of makes sense um the curse is a spooky
5894s	ship in the sense that not only does it
5897s	bring track and disruptors but it also
5898s	has the medium nudes which is why we
5901s	often see the curse band but we also see
5903s	like pilgrim left open uh cuz it's a
5905s	weaker version of The Curse typically
5907s	it's going to be armor fit instead of
5908s	Shield fit so there's more restrictions
5910s	on when you can bring a pilgrim for it
5911s	to be truly effective um but yeah I I I
5915s	think these are pretty I'm sad to see
5917s	the Widow ban I I want to see more
5919s	widows in the tournament I think widows
5920s	are fairly cool we've seen them used
5922s	effectively once or twice um I'd like to
5924s	see more widows please more widows all
5927s	right you heard the man widows please
5929s	all right so we're going to go ahead
5930s	into the arena for this match between
5932s	till doomsday and Exodus Exodus are
5933s	bringing a flagship armagan Navy issue
5935s	so they are committing and they're going
5937s	to try and take a a win and make
5939s	themselves into top 16 whoever wins this
5941s	match guarantees some prize ships
5943s	including a prize Battleship this is
5945s	where the prizes start to become
5947s	legitimate like you win this you have
5949s	one prize ship so let's head into the
5950s	arena and see if they can do
5954s	that hello I am moderator joined by my
5957s	good colleague Brett Bart pirate and
5961s	black Bart pirate even not Brett Thomas
5963s	Thomas we have a Kings Slayer
5965s	composition so three rapid heavy
5967s	battleships and the flagship AI of
5970s	sabotage going up against a drone comp
5973s	interestingly Exodus has a pair of
5976s	bombers maybe not going to do a ton
5978s	against a drone comp uh it it could it'd
5981s	be really cool if it does um we will
5982s	find out uh exodus yes they are bringing
5985s	a king killer uh they brought their
5986s	Flagship um we're kind of seeing an old
5988s	school drone comp here with some uh
5989s	eos's and uh the uh
5992s	often talked [ __ ] about Stratos but uh
5994s	the match has started both teams are at
5996s	the maximum range of the warpin so I
5998s	think they were a little bit scared of
5999s	engaging too much here uh probably
6002s	favors The Exodus team a bit here
6003s	because they have the ability to you
6006s	know basically shoot from wherever what
6008s	they want massive cloud of drones out
6009s	already so many heavy drones and some
6011s	light drones and some medium drones
6013s	rushing straight at Exodus not sure what
6015s	they're about to hit yet but it does
6016s	look like they're probably I would
6018s	expect to go for the bombers right uh
6020s	yeah I would think so you would want to
6022s	do that and it looks like that that or
6023s	The Inquisitor we see some drone damage
6025s	that looks like it's heading towards um
6027s	The Inquisitor uh kind of on the
6029s	backline of Von here meanwhile battle
6031s	has been joined the typhoon Fleet issues
6033s	and the Armageddon Navy issue are just
6034s	duking it out in the very center of the
6036s	arena with the EOS and I like that if
6039s	I'm Exodus even if you guidance disrupt
6041s	me right and they have been guidance
6042s	disrupted heavily if you're on an EOS at
6044s	zero it's not really going to matter too
6046s	much if your guidance disrupted no and
6048s	we're we're seeing that the EOS which is
6049s	generally considered to be probably one
6051s	of the tankiest ships in the alliance
6053s	tournament is actually dropping quite
6054s	low but once again we are seeing these
6056s	triglavian reppy boys and uh if you know
6059s	especially against rapid heavy missile
6061s	launchers very very powerful because
6063s	they will have to stop shooting at some
6065s	point when they have to reload for you
6066s	know 30 seconds or so but uh that being
6068s	said the Hound actually gets blown up
6070s	byound God the hound and the hyena this
6072s	was jabate so the hyena was chasing
6074s	after um this Inquisitor and they both
6077s	bound read however if I lose an
6079s	Inquisitor for a hyena I'm happy with
6082s	that that hyena is going to be doing a
6083s	good job at keeping away uh The Exodus
6086s	core but both teams that should know
6088s	better inting key ships however speaking
6090s	of inting that EOS is getting rather
6092s	rather low uh meanwhile the Magus does
6094s	drop as well for the side of Exodus yeah
6098s	that's that's really bad like inting an
6100s	Inquisitor because you were trying to
6101s	kite uh basically means the second
6103s	Inquisitor is going to die at some point
6104s	because now half of your reps are gone
6106s	they can't rep each other uh we thought
6107s	the EOS was going to die but it actually
6109s	did exactly what we had thought was
6110s	going to happen or what I predicted and
6113s	the battleships have clipped and now the
6114s	EOS is going to get ripped all the way
6115s	back up to full and you know this is
6117s	rough like this is the the problem with
6119s	the setup that Exodus brought is that if
6121s	this specific situation happens and you
6123s	have wasted so much time now you're just
6125s	getting picked apart you know we have
6127s	lost the Hound we've lost the Magus
6129s	we've lost the Inquisitor uh they're
6131s	slowly losing ships here until doomsday
6133s	is very very ahead like you said one
6134s	hyena for an Inquisitor who cares so one
6137s	thing I really don't like here with
6138s	what's going on with Exodus is okay it
6140s	looks like they've reloaded um or
6142s	starting to reload I would like to see
6144s	some split um neutralization between the
6147s	two eos's and the Riva so the Riva will
6149s	have its cap being pressured which will
6151s	matter a lot on this upcoming reload
6153s	meanwhile I would like to also see the
6155s	EOS right just grind them out over time
6158s	on the capacitor right you have a core
6160s	of Fleet typhoons and navy Armageddon
6163s	really if you're on top of these ships
6165s	at zero um you're about to lose your Pon
6167s	effects you're about to lose your links
6168s	you're about to lose a lot of tankiness
6170s	but just try to make sure that the eos's
6172s	just don't have any resist mods no
6174s	that's a very good idea but you know
6176s	what is not a good idea is after you
6178s	fail to kill an EOS that is being repped
6180s	by a triglavian reppy boy you then
6182s	attempt to do it again while the reps
6184s	are still spooled up uh it does look
6186s	like Exodus realized that was a bad idea
6187s	and have hard swap to the prophecy which
6189s	they should be able to kill and I think
6190s	that they actually might have uh either
6193s	the I think the Riva was not able to rep
6195s	it I don't think the Riva reped it at
6196s	all yeah I was just looking at kind of
6198s	the bar here the rep is on the EOS not
6200s	the prophecy at all maybe a complete
6201s	misplay or the Redal was completely out
6203s	of capacitor but that prophecy does
6206s	break uh meanwhile Mo in the purifier is
6209s	going to drop so really the only ships
6211s	left for exus are going to be their
6212s	heavy Point core but I mean if that Riva
6216s	is still capped out if that EOS is
6217s	capped out um exus could be in an okay
6221s	position um zarel meanwhile though is
6223s	taking a lot of damage from the Drone
6225s	Cloud yeah so uh really interestingly um
6228s	the Ashu of wasak QC almost got tackle
6231s	on the Riva which would have been really
6232s	bad it does have web on it but it has
6234s	been screened by a stro so we're seeing
6236s	some uh some counterplay with the
6237s	Cruisers in the back that is uh maybe a
6239s	little bit hard to see compared to the
6242s	you know crazy action going on right
6243s	here um the Riva is very very very far
6246s	away right now and it is uh still in rep
6249s	range barely but like yeah I I think
6252s	they're in trouble here this typhoon
6253s	Fleet issue is entering kind of middle
6255s	to lowish armor right here nothing is
6257s	happening to this EOS they're trying to
6258s	kill it again which you know I mean
6260s	maybe what definition Insanity try three
6262s	times and yeah and mean meanwhile I mean
6265s	again the RAS had the Reps on top of
6267s	this e entire time ex isn't about to
6269s	break it zal night blade however is
6272s	about to break maybe try for a Stratos
6274s	try for an arbit trator try for
6276s	literally anything else but I don't know
6278s	if Exodus can even project because their
6280s	Fleet typhoons their Navy Armageddon are
6282s	completely held down at this point and
6284s	their TD they probably can't shoot more
6286s	than 15 km at most no they they got I
6289s	mean they got countered a little bit
6290s	here like you know arbitrator again hey
6293s	would you look look at that the
6293s	arbitrators are doing really really good
6295s	um there's a couple moments I think
6296s	Exodus had here they are going to lose
6298s	this Fleet typhoon now that being
6300s	said you know one of the fleet typhoons
6302s	isn't tackled and it looks like uh looks
6304s	like the fleet typhoon of Aaron is
6306s	actually burning away right now trying
6307s	to grab something else to get and kill
6309s	here and I say that and gets tackled
6311s	again um but you know they're they're
6313s	trying to do stuff tackled by a m nav is
6314s	sh I do think you're right like you're
6316s	up against a you know triangle boy reppy
6319s	ship spread your DPS some right like do
6321s	something here uh get your drones out I
6322s	don't know really what they're doing
6324s	besides feeding right now yeah I mean
6326s	right now till doomsday on their oiva
6328s	they're just kind of spreading things
6329s	out meanwhile I mean the issue that
6331s	Exodus has right now is that their
6332s	typhoon fleo shoe is kind of out in
6335s	Narnia relative to the Armageddon Navy
6337s	issue so they can't really support each
6340s	other and concentrate damage on anything
6342s	meanwhile uh the Riva is just happy to
6345s	kind of split reps across the board yes
6347s	it is finally getting um some n pressure
6351s	um it looks like from you know the um
6354s	one of the battleships at long long
6356s	range so deep in follow this Riva though
6359s	is playing basically perfectly staying
6361s	at the very very edge of optimal uh you
6363s	know it doesn't matter in a Riva if
6365s	you're at 2 kilm or you know if you're
6367s	at the very edge um you still do the
6369s	same amount and Aon eega is about to
6371s	drop yeah and you know I do a really
6373s	huge shout out the Riva the arbitrators
6375s	and honestly the estrados uh as you know
6377s	much as people don't like to kind of say
6379s	mean things about it uh fantastic
6381s	screening and just avoiding and not
6382s	getting tackled and killed because while
6384s	they are track and disrupted into
6385s	Oblivion they still would do quite a bit
6387s	of damage and it does look the typhoon
6389s	Fleet issue is slowly starting to drop
6390s	here uh breaking into structure really
6393s	does show that some of these drone
6395s	setups don't really do all that much
6396s	damage but at the end of the day it
6398s	doesn't matter because if you are able
6399s	to prevent yourself from going down uh
6401s	you're going to do fine and the EOS you
6403s	know actually kind of got wrecked a
6404s	little bit you know this those Flagship
6407s	rapid Heavies we were just looking at
6408s	them they do a lot of damage but again
6411s	like you're not going to kill it you've
6413s	tried what four times now yeah so
6415s	interestingly enough um I would have
6418s	thought that till doomsday might have
6419s	tried to kill the uh Navy gon at this
6421s	point maybe not the fleet typhoon
6422s	because they've already won the match
6424s	and maybe there's an opportunity because
6426s	you're playing against Exodus right that
6428s	you can upgrade some of the loot you
6430s	know exus is not poor they will have you
6433s	know a good web good launchers right
6435s	good micro warp drive probably a very
6438s	good damage control as well but I don't
6440s	know ifin the next 2 minutes and 30
6442s	seconds they'll be able to kill that
6443s	Navy
6444s	Armageddon um Exodus though
6447s	interestingly enough they brought a
6448s	purifier and a Hound which is what they
6450s	did last match I feel like till doomsday
6454s	kind of counter comped them and exodus
6455s	was maybe showing a little bit too much
6457s	by bringing the same setup twice in a
6459s	row yeah you you got to be really
6461s	careful about that like every single
6462s	match is public obviously you guys are
6464s	watching it right now at home or
6465s	wherever it is you are you can see what
6466s	the teams are bringing and you can look
6467s	at and be like huh oh they they they
6469s	brought this well you know clearly there
6471s	was a lot of guidance disruptors here I
6473s	don't know if they Allen it that's
6474s	generally a little bit dangerous but um
6476s	Exodus got you know pretty much neutered
6478s	here like they killed the hyena because
6480s	it killed itself dying to The Inquisitor
6483s	which was perfect like great they got
6485s	the prophecy I think that might have
6486s	been a little bit of a piloting error on
6487s	the riva's fault but you know other than
6489s	that I mean you know here we are now you
6491s	said that they might not have enough
6493s	time but it actually does look like they
6495s	are kind of eating through this Navy
6497s	genon um I bet you that it is having
6499s	some uh I don't know maybe he gave up
6501s	maybe he burned something or maybe they
6503s	and did a you know doing a little bit of
6505s	a par Strat he put all of his low slots
6507s	as a damage modules to try and do
6509s	something but I think they might
6510s	actually be losing their genon here no I
6512s	think they are I mean people kind of say
6514s	that um you know the eos's don't do a
6516s	ton of damage but really I mean look at
6518s	the attack bar that till doomsday has
6519s	it's not nothing right like we see that
6521s	there is an active um rep uh amount in
6524s	the defense bar in purple and that's
6525s	going to be those X Type um you know
6527s	reps that are going to be doing an
6529s	excellent job at keeping sabotage up
6530s	right he's been doing his you know level
6533s	but this isimu of Wasa is just
6535s	eventually going to fall and uh to the
6539s	DS they shouldn't kill they're going to
6540s	kill both of them don't kill the isimu
6542s	stop on the isimu so you can loot the
6544s	Navy genon because if you blow up too
6546s	late cuz now they're going to kill the
6547s	flagship they're not going to be able to
6548s	loot it because as soon as that Navy
6550s	genon dies that's it well In fairness
6553s	the EOS are on top of this Navy genon at
6555s	zero they're going to loot it um the
6556s	desk is probably going to be able to
6558s	give us in some insight into how shiny
6560s	of a kill mail that is because I'm
6562s	expecting you know top tier metal
6565s	officer launchers and you know defensive
6567s	offensive mods very well played by till
6569s	doomsday counter compt and again who
6572s	thought that these Frenchies would go
6574s	you know 20 in the winner
6577s	side yeah back to the
6580s	desk getting knocked down into the lore
6583s	bracket now and losing their Flagship uh
6585s	we'll check out that K when it comes
6587s	through uh a bit of an upset there uh I
6589s	think everyone uh well twitch chat you
6591s	guys all seem to mostly predict EX would
6593s	win I thought Exodus would win they're a
6595s	very experienced team kind of a bit of a
6596s	surprise to see them go out but till
6598s	doomsday have turned up and shown that
6600s	they are to be taken seriously they come
6602s	in first match of Alliance tournament 20
6605s	they take on the defending Champions and
6607s	they knock them into the lower bracket
6608s	then they go up against Exodus one of
6610s	the most experienced teams uh in the
6612s	tournament ever and they win sending
6614s	them into the lower bracket and taking
6615s	out their Flagship as well so till dims
6617s	day are making a really good showing so
6619s	far and they are the first prize ship
6621s	enjoyers uh of alliance at 20 they have
6624s	now confirmed some prize ships which is
6626s	awesome they get a battleship they get
6627s	two FRS and two Cruisers uh incredible
6630s	what an amazing return so far for them
6632s	I'm joined by CCB Aurora and Ali arz how
6634s	are you guys doing today CCB Aurora I'm
6636s	doing good thanks for having me back
6638s	again yeah tell me about that match like
6641s	that was an exciting match to watch how
6642s	was it for you yeah it was it was quite
6645s	interesting the uh I I think that the uh
6648s	Exodus team was expecting a comp that
6651s	wasn't brought so so uh they had uh two
6654s	bombers which would have been really
6656s	good if the other side had brought some
6657s	sort of Battleship core um but what they
6659s	saw instead were two eos's a lot of
6662s	drones and a lot of control um those uh
6665s	their low end was picked off really fast
6667s	and they just weren't able to hold it
6669s	through the end of the match um it was
6672s	uh I think they basically lost in comp
6674s	selection I think I agree with that as
6676s	well now Ally um it has been mentioned
6678s	once or twice uh this particular ship
6680s	but let's talk a bit about the
6681s	arbitrator it's again rearing its head
6684s	and showing why it can be so devastating
6686s	in the right hands what happened there
6687s	with that so in this case the till the
6691s	till doomsday team brought two
6692s	arbitrators and this time they split
6694s	their disruptor matchups they had enough
6696s	missile guidance disruptors to really
6698s	impact the missiles of the Kings Slayer
6700s	and impacting those missiles is going to
6702s	mean that those rapid heavy ships they
6704s	can't reach as far as they normally
6705s	would we saw the Riva was never targeted
6709s	by the till doomsday Corp if there
6711s	weren't for the arbitrators there that
6712s	log you probably would have been dead
6714s	yeah and I agree I just had a look at
6716s	the uh the kill mail for this Armageddon
6718s	Navy issue of Exodus and I believe it's
6720s	our most expensive one thus far in the
6722s	tournament uh over a 100 bill on uh on
6725s	Zed killboard uh full rack of sml's
6728s	Rapid Heavies in the highs um and uh
6731s	they dropped of course 90% Loot drop
6733s	event going on right now which is
6734s	excellent if you if you have to kill a
6736s	flagship so I'm hoping tills Doom today
6737s	managed to scoop that all up uh but yeah
6740s	those launchers alone are about 67
6744s	billion you then have a pretty good web
6746s	22 billion there and a pretty decent
6749s	damage control so that is a hecking
6752s	pricey Flagship cpar it is I want to
6755s	point out one thing though uh they went
6757s	up against the Drone comp and they have
6758s	no smart bombs on this ship so if they
6760s	had had smart bombs it would have been
6762s	potentially a really clutch pick they
6763s	would have been able to clear some of
6764s	those drone swarms they might not have
6766s	lost their Flagship at the end of the
6767s	day um if they had been able to get on
6769s	top of the enemy Fleet they could have
6771s	cleared rep Bots from from other ships
6774s	uh the the choice of neutralizers in
6776s	that Flagship is a very particular one
6778s	uh that very much says to me they
6780s	weren't expecting Mr drone camp and yeah
6782s	yeah so again uh want to call it out you
6784s	know well done till doomsday that was a
6786s	a solid win against a very experienced
6788s	team um with you know really good uh
6791s	access to some hecking expensive modules
6793s	for their ship so well done we'll see
6795s	them uh I think next weekend now uh they
6797s	can rest for the week uh when they're
6799s	not scrimming of course they should be
6800s	practicing straight to the gulag um and
6803s	yeah so let's move on to our next
6804s	winners bracket match it's going to be
6806s	platinum sensitivity versus we form
6808s	Volta and we can hear from Platinum
6810s	sensitivity spokesman about what they do
6812s	on
6814s	Tranquility hello my name is l stone
6817s	spokesperson of pum sensitivity we are
6820s	living in nor exstatic F Hall Bing
6823s	around new to have good fights the usual
6827s	end up against those but we have
6830s	one and honestly at this point we don't
6833s	remember how many times we've competed
6835s	in Alliance tournament our loot dates
6838s	back to lovely 10 years
6841s	ago back then he was more tied but
6844s	nowadays it's just a bunch of old
6847s	friends and now Captain is
6850s	kentus who also has 10 years of
6853s	experience in small scale
6855s	pvps oh he used to be a beast but I
6858s	think he's kind of used up now let's see
6860s	if Mark bles and new face
6863s	can call him and lastly we would like to
6866s	extend this message to express our
6869s	gratitudes for all the players around
6872s	the universe especially teams that have
6874s	fought practice matches and tournament
6877s	matches with us and that's it that is
6881s	platinum sensitivity telling us a little
6883s	bit about their Alliance so this matchup
6885s	is going to be an exciting one again you
6887s	win this you get ships uh we're in the
6889s	winners bracket this is like if you get
6891s	through this you can go into next week
6892s	you comfortable that you're at least top
6894s	16 and try and make a a Deep Run further
6896s	into the tournament get more of those
6897s	exciting ships let's look at the bands
6900s	for this matchup so Platinum sensitivity
6901s	Banning out the mollus the crucifier the
6904s	Sentinel the Loki and the Jack doll
6906s	meanwhile we form Volta choosing to ban
6907s	out the arbitrator the crucifier The
6909s	Sentinel the Loki and the curs so all of
6911s	this sort of guidance destruction
6912s	tracking disruption that's been so
6914s	effective in the last couple of matches
6916s	a lot of it has been banned now Ali yeah
6918s	so again we've been seeing it all
6920s	weekend whenever it's unbanned it shows
6922s	up on field this guidance disruption
6925s	tracking disruption it really impairs
6926s	your ability to bring one of those gun
6928s	spam comps it impairs your ability to
6930s	bring maybe a king Slayer we've seen a
6931s	lot of that it's just really effective
6933s	at disrupting what other teams want to
6936s	do and so by banning all of this with
6938s	the exception of the pilgrim Pilgrim
6939s	still open uh Volta is opening
6942s	themselves up to be able maybe they're
6943s	going to bring a medium gun span maybe
6945s	they're going to bring a king Slayer
6946s	maybe this will let them bring their
6947s	bargus Flagship if nobody will be able
6949s	to cut that down meanwhile Platinum
6951s	sensitivity
6953s	a little bit more of a mixed bag of
6954s	bands and we'll see what that ends up
6957s	coming for them yeah and TP Roar is
6959s	anything you see in these bands uh yeah
6962s	I mean the when you leave this stuff
6964s	unbanned uh it really limits the field
6966s	of what are the potential applicable
6969s	comps um very much as uh AR was saying
6973s	um that's that's part of the reason that
6975s	we saw that drone comp in the last match
6977s	because those drones aren't so affected
6980s	by by all of this sort of ewar they just
6981s	kind of get on the target it doesn't
6983s	matter if you've been tracking disrupted
6984s	or guidance disrupted it's it's very
6986s	much a hedge against all of that control
6989s	um by Banning it out it means that uh
6991s	all of those control uh comps are off
6993s	the table and so there's a lot more that
6995s	they can bring um we could see medium
6997s	guns gun spam that seems very open at
6999s	this point it seems like a very good
7000s	choice for both teams I wouldn't be
7002s	surprised if we saw a medium gun span
7004s	match up on both sides um or one side
7007s	could bring a rush versus medium gun
7009s	span on the other side uh I think this
7011s	will be a little bit more of a bloody
7012s	match given these bands yeah and I was
7015s	just having a quick look in the in the
7016s	in the history books uh this match up
7018s	has happened before we have seen
7019s	Platinum sensitivity versus we form
7021s	Volta in an alliance tournament uh
7023s	winners bracket before uh last year
7025s	Alliance tournament 19 um where uh
7028s	Platinum sensitivity took the win so
7030s	this is a kind of like Revenge comeback
7032s	tour potentially for Volta or you know
7034s	maybe they get knocked down twice like
7036s	it can be sort of this is one the
7038s	moments where you start to like you know
7040s	double guess yourself because you've
7041s	done this before against the same team
7043s	and you lost and it's like okay well do
7045s	we just kind of execute what we think we
7047s	can do well or do we try and play into
7048s	the fact that we've played them once or
7049s	twice before there are of course
7051s	flagships available for both teams I
7053s	don't know if anyone's bringing one yet
7054s	I have not heard any confirmation either
7055s	way um but either either way I think
7058s	this is going to be an exciting match
7059s	these are two very experienced teams uh
7061s	with great individual pilots on both
7063s	sides uh the logistics pilots from the
7065s	Volta side uh last time we saw planet 6
7067s	and outet nopro in logistics frigs
7070s	they're very experienced Pilots doing
7071s	that over Plum sensitivity you have Mark
7074s	Bridges he's been running uh with teams
7075s	for a long time again super experienced
7077s	so this is going to be a good one I
7080s	think so let's head over to the arena
7081s	now for platinum sensitivity versus we
7083s	form
7085s	Volta
7087s	oh hey welcome to the arena already
7090s	we're still warping in at the moment so
7091s	we're not quite ready but uh just
7093s	keeping an eye out is that a flag bar
7096s	guest I I see a barest there is a barest
7099s	on grid your we have to see we have to
7102s	see in local if it getss announc in
7104s	local it is that's the flag I can see
7107s	the sweat already building on the SL he
7109s	like oh no here we go so obviously pla
7111s	sensitivity versus ref from volter vter
7113s	bringing their Flagship argust with a
7116s	lovely psych Fleet issues on their side
7118s	as well a bit of kiting going on I think
7119s	on them for them I love the triple
7121s	Squall triple Squall so a lot of King
7124s	but what of P you brought P you have
7126s	brought by looks of it medium gums spam
7129s	yeah I am perfectly fine with that
7130s	they've gone for triple mher around like
7132s	the double merer Omen versions we've
7134s	seen this is Triple M so they've gone
7135s	for the thickest T1 Cruis they can get
7137s	their hands on so would you think well
7138s	rter oh wait there's is n man there see
7140s	there's one in the bottom the volter
7142s	need to probably get rid of the lowend
7143s	and stuff or they could just try and
7144s	burst through maybe a battle cruiser one
7146s	of the two faction battle Cruisers but I
7148s	think more likely we might see maybe the
7150s	omen or the deacons it depends what gets
7152s	into the range first right but my first
7153s	Target would be the original Omen yeah
7155s	Omen first from there you got to vary a
7157s	bit and the good thing is teams like
7158s	Volta they can adapt really quickly they
7160s	know what to do and as we see t on the
7162s	omen immediately vter burning away this
7165s	is going to be literally a chasing game
7166s	for platin stivity they're going to have
7168s	to get in close get the damage on
7169s	quickly because volter do have a bit
7171s	advantage on the Range first Target is
7172s	the omen Omen should go down plent
7175s	damage yeah I mean do you think the pl
7177s	City need to go for they're going for a
7179s	school right now do you think they
7180s	should probably go for anything bigger
7181s	or do you think school's a good call
7183s	school's an okay cool it's kind of like
7185s	the omen of their comp yeah if you can
7187s	get your hands on it the hyena but
7188s	they've got gone hyena vigil you've gone
7190s	double on the paint and web strength p
7193s	as the scho does go down the M taking a
7195s	lot of damage and your Omen as well so
7196s	maybe the switching targets going for
7198s	the MERS now M into low low armor now a
7201s	second score down for vter they need to
7203s	get some some points on the board at
7204s	this point I think the omen pulled out a
7206s	rid of range whereas now they're going
7207s	for the mo mo is going to die pretty
7208s	quick yeah very mes are pretty tanky but
7211s	you know this is a lot of damage coming
7212s	in this cop is attempting to kite for
7214s	its life no one's tackled so which is
7215s	perfect yeah I think Volta need to just
7217s	get some stuff down they need to go for
7219s	the a second score goes down for Supreme
7221s	leau they need to be careful now cuz
7222s	they're going to third score that's
7224s	third score down the third score sorry
7225s	they're going to get close to the
7226s	boundary now and this is kind of the
7227s	problems of of the kiting comp so if you
7229s	go to Coastal boundaries you're risking
7232s	getting you know pushed up against the
7234s	wall oh yeah I would not want to be the
7235s	pilot in a flag bargus attempting to
7237s	avoid the boundry I know and right now
7240s	it is not looking too good for vter I'm
7242s	starting to sweat a bit here guys I mean
7244s	right H's tackled now that's they one of
7246s	their best application ships about to
7248s	die they're going for a deacon try to
7249s	maybe kill off the lodgy before
7250s	everything goes poor hyena down Hing it
7253s	down it's starting to fall apart it's
7255s	not looking too good for for the volter
7256s	guys vigil is only application left the
7259s	Deacon is now taking a lot of damage
7260s	going into L armor they if they get the
7262s	Deacon off it's still it can still
7265s	happen it can definitely and honestly
7266s	even if they don't their ships going to
7268s	be very very very hard to catch and all
7270s	these battle Cruisers they're pretty
7271s	fast but a barus with an extendo scram
7273s	could hopefully keep going click click
7275s	click click click and constantly slow
7276s	them down could definitely try and keep
7277s	things away but the Deacon is still
7279s	alive he's trying trying their best to
7281s	kill him I think he's a heavy missile
7283s	cycling F you think uh yeah I mean right
7285s	now the the priority for Volta is to get
7287s	this get a deacon down and get the Reps
7289s	off but Planet Six RI in the simar
7291s	taking a lot of damage he's not long for
7294s	this and now they now they're trying to
7295s	just go for the battle Cruisers uh which
7297s	I think probably is a good call just
7299s	trying you know big Sig easy to get
7301s	through kill something they gone for the
7303s	Navy har probably the least tank of them
7305s	pretty good damage tracking bonus is
7307s	pretty nice get rid of it hopefully
7308s	maybe also I think these MERS I going
7310s	double check these are be MERS right I'm
7312s	not crazy yeah I mean yes they are you
7315s	see the damage right now on the har Navy
7316s	issue I mean I just go to think like if
7318s	they did that at the beginning would it
7320s	matter yeah exactly they the damage they
7321s	wasted on the de that was in the in the
7323s	half Navy but then again they probably
7324s	thought they can break the it's one of
7326s	those you think this is going to work oh
7328s	crap it doesn't work react and these
7329s	guys did react quick enough they didn't
7331s	me take like a minute to go oh [ __ ] I
7332s	mean platin 7 C performing really well
7335s	here and just defanging basically
7336s	volta's kiting comp um still they're
7339s	still trying to go for the har Navy
7340s	issue but he should stabilize the 2D on
7342s	him I mean and now s eating out is
7345s	taking a bit of damage this is such a
7346s	hard game for vter to come back from I
7349s	there is a flag bar on grid we have to
7351s	you know it's it's probably a very
7352s	expensive the simitar is only being hit
7354s	by drones now they're now switching to
7356s	the S Fleet so some pl6 built got away
7358s	maybe he can get a Reload off even by
7360s	being pressured by drones maybe I mean I
7362s	don't know that's a pretty risky play
7363s	with a ship chasing he's got a omen that
7366s	the they tried to kill is hunting him
7367s	down it's a it's a risky play but it's
7369s	the only thing he's got he's going into
7370s	structure I think yeah yeah yep M now
7373s	being shot as well they the damage is
7374s	starting to spread cycl Fleet gets
7377s	boundaried he gets bound boundar yeah
7380s	look sticky oh
7383s	dear guys come on uh this poor man this
7386s	poor man like it looks like th th and
7390s	Annie just left Annie the captain in the
7391s	varus I mean at this point I think it's
7394s	time to it's time to just not die yeah y
7398s	okay Annie It's Time To Play Beacon
7399s	bounce just keep running he should be
7401s	able to as as the L is coming into the
7405s	commentating Studio the game's not
7407s	finished yet no no no put it on put it
7409s	on give it to him there we go put the L
7412s	on I have to can I how do I do that I'll
7414s	just do that do yeah wait is that
7417s	working not really but it's still very
7419s	amusing there we go I'll just hold it
7420s	yeah it's very amusing he's got to hold
7422s	he's got to hold the L is is is still
7426s	he's about to go down but I believe in
7427s	Annie Annie guard it can take it to the
7430s	end come on my friend I think we need to
7431s	take you somewhere for
7434s	delusions and he's now on his own I
7436s	think I mean he can probably stay alive
7438s	potentially if he plays the game of
7440s	bouncing beacons and then hey if they're
7442s	about to kill him aim that mjd the other
7444s	direction and be like you're not getting
7445s	my stuff a The Omen trying to go for him
7447s	as well of course he is yeah the omen
7449s	that was that probably would have wished
7451s	was dead at the start of the match
7452s	honestly we've been kind of no I would
7454s	say [ __ ] but we've been hitting
7456s	volter on this match but Platinum played
7458s	really well yeah I mean honestly like I
7459s	we we kind of giving volter a bit of bit
7461s	of trash for this but Plum did it very
7462s	well the omen pulled away the ships kept
7465s	each other alive they got the whole the
7466s	whole Rush is still alive I'm sorry
7468s	Annie's about to go down he's going to
7470s	go down do you know what it's going it's
7472s	it should be a good lost mail I think so
7474s	yeah we going to say that right you
7475s	going to say it's a good lost mail it's
7476s	going to be good it's not going to hurt
7478s	the killboard it's going to be a good
7479s	one I mean well played I think panon
7482s	doing really well ex biggest respect of
7484s	platinum well done flag bar down and
7487s	with that we're going to get back to the
7488s	studio and I'm going to deal with star
7490s	lead here
7492s	you're all good
7496s	buddy they're knocking we for Volta down
7499s	into the low bracket and also taking out
7501s	the flagship fielded by Annie gardette
7503s	the flag bar guest uh the L is now being
7506s	handed to to me on the desk I think
7508s	someone forgot that uh I'm not in Volta
7510s	anymore but I will leave it here uh
7512s	because I do stand Volta there there are
7513s	some some good Pilots um what went wrong
7516s	CB aora for VTA in that match uh what
7519s	went wrong was mostly the comp selection
7521s	so the
7522s	uh they banned out all of the control um
7525s	leaving open that medium guns bam comp
7527s	that we've seen a lot of uh so far over
7529s	this weekend that Medium gun spam comp
7531s	is strong it has incredibly good range
7534s	um and uh they brought a kutting comp
7537s	which isn't going to outrange the medium
7540s	gun spam comp um so I'm not quite sure
7543s	what they were hoping would happen in
7545s	that matchup uh perhaps they were really
7547s	hoping that uh Platinum sensitivity were
7549s	going to bring something else uh but
7551s	what they fac was not a good counter or
7554s	not a good setup for uh what they
7557s	actually brought yeah and I think we did
7559s	see some some good experience piloting
7561s	obviously from both sides but sometimes
7563s	when you come up in a match like that
7564s	you saw uh volter realized what their
7566s	win condition was so usually we talk
7567s	about when you come in okay this thing
7569s	needs to happen for us to win the match
7571s	and they recognized pretty quickly um
7573s	that their win condition was to kill the
7574s	deacons and they had the hyena and they
7576s	had the vigil and the deacons at one
7578s	point got split up a little bit they
7580s	were about 30 or 40 kmers away from each
7581s	other and VTA doen they just committed
7584s	suicide in that hyena to try and like
7586s	lock it down and just try and kill it
7588s	before uh his body could get into range
7590s	it didn't work unfortunately for them uh
7592s	but those sort of like decisions uh are
7594s	what kind of separates the the top tier
7596s	teams from the lower tier teams like
7598s	being able to sort of recognize and then
7600s	execute on something sometimes it
7602s	doesn't work uh Ally what else could
7603s	they have done differently did you think
7605s	so I mean as CCP R said it was really
7608s	there was really a draft problem here uh
7611s	one of the things that Volta did one of
7614s	the things that Platinum sensitivity did
7615s	really well piloting wise you talk about
7617s	C CCB overload you talk about the way
7619s	that people recognize what has to happen
7621s	in a match they did a really good job of
7623s	as soon as somebody got shot they ran
7625s	away like yes if your merer runs away if
7628s	your Omen runs away that that is ship
7631s	isn't doing damage anymore and your
7635s	overall DPS is lowered for a little bit
7637s	but your total DPS is larger for more of
7639s	the match because the ship is still
7641s	there to come back back later so really
7644s	good job on that in terms of other
7645s	things vola could have
7646s	done mostly just you trying to get those
7650s	fast Target Swifts honestly this is two
7652s	really experienced teams Volta needed
7655s	Platinum sensitivity to make a mistake
7657s	and platinum sensitivity was too good to
7658s	do that yeah and uh I just looked at the
7661s	Kil Mill for the flagship barest uh it's
7663s	uh definitely the most expensive one
7665s	we've seen so far Zed kill's listing at
7667s	uh around 167 billion uh of your finest
7670s	internet spaceship isk um Again full
7673s	rack of esls in the high most of it
7675s	dropped even though 90% Loot drop is in
7677s	place a bunch of expensive stuff didn't
7678s	actually drop this time so lot fairy
7680s	firmly said maybe this time um so CU two
7683s	of those launchers uh did not drop and
7685s	those two launchers alone are 26 billion
7687s	like these are expensive launchers uh
7689s	but then everything in the mids dropped
7691s	including a Tobias scram uh and a nice
7693s	sml's large Shield booster um and then
7697s	back down into the low slots we get some
7699s	some more expensive stuff with sml's
7701s	modified ballistic Control Systems all
7702s	of which dropped all three that's 40
7705s	billion and of course a very fancy uh
7707s	damage control so uh these prices are
7709s	sort of like estimates because there's
7711s	not a huge amount of these things in
7713s	existence and they don't really get
7714s	traded very much on on like the open
7716s	market they kind of go through like
7717s	Private Sales so this could be anywhere
7719s	from about 167 to maybe even 300 billion
7723s	isk CCB Aurora flagships we talked about
7726s	a little bit about them yesterday but
7727s	you what would you pick as your Flagship
7729s	if you were had to Captain a team H that
7732s	that is a tricky one I would probably do
7734s	as volted did here and pick the bar
7735s	guest um it is a very flexible ship you
7738s	can kind of slot it into a bunch of
7740s	different comps and have it work really
7741s	well um you can you can Shield fit it
7744s	you can armor fit it technically um
7747s	there's a lot that you can do with it it
7749s	puts out insane amount of damage it has
7751s	uh decent speed for a for a battleship
7754s	um it is just a very solid pick all
7757s	around that gives you a lot of
7758s	flexibility um one of the things that
7760s	you can see with a lot of uh
7762s	Flagship uh flag Flagship choices is
7765s	that they can kind of lock you into a
7766s	very specific uh Team comp which other
7769s	people can plan against which the Bargas
7771s	helps to avoid so particularly if if you
7774s	were to say instead that you uh picked a
7776s	leack for example um especially with all
7780s	of the the control that we're seeing
7782s	right now um we saw a a flag leack
7784s	yesterday struggle under those scenarios
7787s	because they knew they could bring it
7789s	and they they brought exactly what would
7791s	counter it and it's a lot harder to do
7792s	that to a ship that's just generally
7794s	good yeah uh I mean I I think I agree I
7797s	like the barest um I like the
7798s	flexibility um I'm I'm pretty sure a
7801s	team like Volta is either going to have
7802s	two of them one armor and one um Shield
7805s	or they just refit depending on some of
7806s	these expensive modules might be moved
7807s	around between the two of them um but
7810s	that's all it's still a lot of money
7811s	into into flagships and of course Vol
7813s	not out they will be back uh in the
7815s	lower bracket but not having uh their
7817s	Flagship um going forward from weekend
7820s	one is going to be a bit of a P they can
7822s	no longer Dodge the bands uh they don't
7824s	have that flexibility of the extra
7826s	strength of all of these uh these like
7828s	really fancy modules um that's going to
7830s	hurt them later um sometimes you know
7833s	I'm pretty sure obviously they would
7835s	prefer to if they're going to lose not
7836s	lose the flagship but there was no way
7837s	with 5 minutes left that Annie was going
7839s	to be able to kite around with the
7841s	amount of platinum sensitivity still on
7843s	the field uh Ally any thoughts on uh
7845s	more on this match so it was really it
7847s	was a really good match it was really
7848s	interesting to see those two teams see
7851s	two teams playing again really really
7853s	well uh one of the things that we saw is
7857s	you both good execution good lodgy
7859s	piloting and yeah just one of the
7862s	interesting things with these kinds of
7864s	matches is whenever you're going into
7866s	the arena you have to know what level to
7869s	be on and so we talked about Volta
7871s	losing in draft one of the things that
7873s	might have happened here is a little bit
7875s	of I know that you know that I know that
7878s	gun spam is open so it's possible that
7881s	they said ah yes well we banned like we
7884s	were going to bring Gun spam so now
7885s	nobody's going to bring Gun spam and we
7887s	can just kite them out and yeah maybe
7889s	they got a little bit leveled there so
7890s	kudos to platinum sensitivity for
7891s	finding finding the right lane Yep this
7894s	is going to uh I'm sure tilt a bunch of
7896s	the the the Vol members because this is
7897s	the second year in a row that they've
7898s	been knocked down uh by Platinum
7900s	sensitivity so congratulations to
7902s	platinum sensitivity before we move on
7903s	though I want to take a quick look at uh
7905s	Annie gardet he was the pilot in the
7907s	barast there H he's a very experienced
7910s	Alliance tournament pilot you can see
7911s	how many matches he's played in over the
7913s	years it goes way back I'm pretty sure
7915s	he was part of yeah you see their verge
7917s	of collapse when they won Alliance
7919s	tournament 10 or 11 um he flies the bar
7922s	guest a lot and usually the flagship bar
7923s	guest uh we've seen it in the grand
7925s	finals in Alliance tournament 17 and he
7927s	flew the flagship barast against Hydra
7929s	reloaded uh Hydra took that particular
7932s	uh Alliance tournament and Volta were
7934s	second uh but yeah Annie gardette uh
7936s	extremely experienced pilot one of the
7938s	best in the business for sure especially
7940s	in those flagship bar guests all right
7943s	uh let's move on to our next match now
7946s	which is another great one like these
7948s	matches are now just bangers for the
7949s	next little while by the way because now
7951s	we have truth on the light versus white
7952s	squall now white squall have as I said
7956s	earlier on they're doing this like
7957s	pacifist run I think right now because
7959s	they have killed nothing literally
7961s	killed nothing so far in the alliance
7962s	tournament but yet here they are uh in
7964s	the upper bracket with a win thanks to a
7966s	1- nil win the other day uh the bands
7969s	are up on the screen let's take a quick
7970s	look at them so it's Jack dot C
7971s	Armageddon and Armageddon Navy issue
7973s	from truth on all light and then white
7975s	squall choosing to ban out the EOS the
7977s	Blackbird the Loki and the crucifier so
7981s	these are two again very experienced
7982s	teams uh going up against each other I'm
7984s	pretty sure the truth on the light and
7985s	white squall are practice Partners as
7986s	well so this is these are the matches
7988s	where you start to get really cookie
7990s	setups because you're going up against
7992s	the people that you know best
7994s	essentially in in these matches in this
7996s	particular tournament as well so you
7997s	know what they think is good they know
7999s	what you think is good and then you get
8000s	into this like death spiral of trying to
8002s	outthink yourself CP what do you think
8004s	about these bands here uh yeah so when
8007s	we talk about teams that are this good
8009s	uh you actually have to think a lot more
8010s	about what the
8013s	banss when when you're trying to make a
8015s	ban against a good team you're not
8016s	saying what do I not want to play
8017s	against which is what most people think
8019s	a ban is what you're actually saying is
8021s	what do I want them to think I don't
8022s	want to play against and the better the
8024s	teams are and the closer they are as
8025s	practice Partners the more that 40 CH
8027s	chess just kind of spirals I think we
8029s	know from past Alliance tournaments that
8032s	trying to figure out what truth on our
8033s	light is going to bring based on their
8034s	bands is a fruitless effort they're
8036s	actually really good at OB skating uh
8039s	and and kind of like hiding their
8040s	intention by giving fairly generic bands
8042s	and I think that's kind of what we see
8043s	here um they ban out the armag the armag
8046s	Navy issue just kind of solid uh armor
8050s	uh like King Slayer comp type
8051s	battleships with with decent control and
8053s	decent damage um the curse is just kind
8055s	of a good allaround ban the the jack do
8058s	vaguely signals like maybe we want fly
8061s	something Kae don't pick us off um but
8064s	it's hard to say um I I I would caution
8067s	anyone from reading too much into THL
8070s	bands at any point in time and I think
8072s	truth and like are one of those teams
8073s	that are likely to not bring the best
8077s	stuff on weekend one if they can avoid
8079s	it because we've seen this time and time
8080s	again happened to the last tournament 17
8082s	happened to the last tournament 18 they
8084s	turned up in the second weekend and
8086s	brought something completely different
8087s	that up until that point nobody had
8089s	really the crafted against and suddenly
8091s	The Meta just shifted and now there's no
8093s	time to react so whether it becoming the
8096s	the sort of strange sto Tinker the won
8097s	Alliance tournament 17 or things like
8099s	bringing fantasms with medium gun spam
8101s	that kind of just all appeared all of a
8102s	sudden so it would be interesting to
8104s	find out if white squall versus on the
8107s	light is going to be some sort of
8110s	indication of where this is going or
8112s	whether they think people are going to
8113s	think that and they're going to bring
8113s	something kind of a bit more crazy in
8115s	the other direction like this is the
8117s	Mind Games this is this is when we start
8119s	to like cook and come up with just
8120s	nonsense and then this is when you end
8122s	up with like those meme matches where
8124s	somebody brings a melstrom and tries to
8127s	convince everyone it's good it's not um
8130s	I honestly don't know who to predict in
8131s	this one I know truth on a light have
8133s	the pedigree I mean let me just check
8134s	twitch chat to see what you guys think I
8136s	know what you're going to think but I'm
8137s	going to check it anyway yep so truth on
8138s	the light you guys are predicting nearly
8140s	4 million Channel points they have an
8142s	opportunity right now to get so many
8144s	Channel points if they just lose this
8146s	match it would be great like it depends
8148s	what you value more Alliance tournament
8150s	prize ships or Channel points Channel
8152s	points anyway Channel points 100% one of
8154s	the things that I notice about those
8156s	bands is that the armor gun spam is
8157s	still open so if these if this is a hide
8160s	your hide your good comps it's just
8162s	going to be gun spam we're just going
8163s	straight back to the feeders you got
8164s	your gun spam you've got most of the
8166s	rush options still available let's let's
8169s	just see some uh good old classic Eve
8171s	you have the potential for counters here
8172s	too uh there's a lot of uh those
8175s	tracking disruption ships that are also
8176s	still open so this is where the Mind
8178s	Games come in like we've left that open
8179s	are we going to bring that That's a
8180s	classic maybe we'll bring uh maybe we'll
8183s	bring the counter to that maybe maybe
8184s	we'll bring a rush who knows it would be
8187s	kind of funny if both teams brought
8188s	essentially ineffective counters of each
8190s	other's comp and we got another like
8192s	one- nil Victory like I would be
8194s	extremely pleased if a team managed to
8196s	get into top 16 and win prize ships
8198s	achieving literally nothing else than
8200s	just arriving there like no kills just
8202s	sort of coasted in that would be it is
8204s	theoretically possible to win the
8206s	alliance tournament while killing
8207s	nothing I guess technically make it
8210s	happen make it Happ Happ guys that's
8212s	that's has to happen all right uh let's
8214s	just go to the arena this is going to be
8215s	a fantastic match truth honor light
8217s	versus uh white
8222s	squall welcome back to the arena we have
8224s	truth on a light versus white score and
8227s	on on on the grid right now we've got
8228s	some interesting comps all m i I saw the
8231s	Hyperion I was like oh hello damage comp
8235s	that comp is very interesting like the
8237s	Hyperion is the one thing I'm looking at
8239s	going okay I know two night bring in two
8242s	abandons and a Hyperion as they call
8244s	with two sentinals so a lot of tracking
8245s	disruption paired with some logy freaks
8248s	as well and what have white school got
8249s	white school have brought the Redeemer
8251s	temper setup but they've got a pilgrim
8253s	as their backup control chip and they're
8255s	nearest for that to the best RS possible
8257s	and they also brought a very eclectic
8260s	but pretty effective small wing yeah and
8262s	also yeah so both teams have different
8264s	types of logistics don't they they've
8265s	got so TL have the sort of close range
8268s	T1 uh T2 sorry uh logi frigs andly whol
8271s	have the anos for that bit more of a
8272s	projecting logy so do you think that
8275s	gives them a bit of an edge it's going
8276s	to be like a game of what are they going
8278s	to do against these AB the abon can
8279s	apply there's not much to stop them
8281s	applying like they can shoot at range
8282s	there's not really any tracktion to stop
8284s	them yeah so the abdons will be shooting
8286s	I'm look at that look at that there been
8288s	tties on both sides my apology I think I
8289s	missed a there some t on both sides
8290s	there Pilgrim right yeah duh my brain
8293s	entirely forgot Pilgrim does that I'm
8294s	used to just nuding me pilgrims
8296s	definitely the the core for the uh ew
8298s	War for white SCH lots of some Bots I'm
8301s	guessing we're going to see a lot of
8302s	bots here oh yeah oh yeah Bots are going
8304s	to come out it's one of the best things
8305s	about the Hyperion the Drone Bay is
8306s	thick the other B Drone Bays aren't bad
8308s	as well so control freak taking a bit of
8310s	damage right now and the SLE for Tom but
8312s	I think we're going to start to see when
8314s	things start getting locked down we're
8315s	going to start to see the damage coming
8316s	I think Redeemer should be the primary
8319s	for and I'm just looking DEA should be
8322s	tackled yet demer is hard tack here we
8323s	go hper with blast at zero oh my this is
8327s	my favorite place to be I mean if you're
8329s	squir and you're looking at this comp
8331s	you kind of thinking every Battleship
8332s	here is really tanky I'm probably
8334s	looking at going oh God o f oh God o f
8336s	uh I mean probably the right call to go
8339s	for the Hyperion I think just based on
8341s	you can try and get some NES on him he's
8343s	he's going to have a big local tank as
8345s	well you can break through a Hyperion
8347s	you cannot break through an abidon where
8348s	they resist getting better and better
8350s	because of the reactives at least in my
8352s	opinion abidon you can maybe grind
8354s	through but the Hyperion you can maybe
8355s	once he runs out of rep reps push and
8357s	break it's going to be a tough I think
8358s	it's for school it's going to be a bit
8360s	tough oh yeah they do have a lot of
8362s	small wing they got spple Confessor they
8364s	should be able to go around and start
8365s	murdering the backline yeah and also
8366s	they've got um a little p purifier as
8369s	well just a bit bit of extra DPS people
8371s	always forget about I think oh we've
8373s	seen a few bombers this this year which
8375s	have been very good because bombers used
8376s	to be one of the things you saw almost
8377s	every comat like King Slayer stars and
8379s	stuff just deleting big ships we've seen
8381s	them a bit here and they not been as
8383s	picked as expected nor killed as much as
8384s	expected the Redeemer though taking a
8387s	lot of damage from THL I mean and
8390s	there's not much return damage going on
8392s	the hyp media dark space is not really
8394s	taking any damage right now I also want
8395s	to give a respect to the Hye looks like
8397s	he's control spaced or kind of they've
8400s	actually stopped moving thankfully good
8403s	there's there's just a big melee going
8404s	on right now as which is so many B Parts
8407s	keep blood like orbiting or burning away
8410s	it's the hardest thing to get a player
8411s	who's probably been flying frots their
8412s	entire life to sit still I think we're
8414s	going to have first Blood going to THL
8417s	as a r oh look at the Smart bomb as well
8418s	I S just saw a smart bomb there we go
8419s	smart bombing off the rep drones for the
8421s	Dema this triple comp this is beautiful
8423s	but the Dema goes down but the Dema goes
8425s	down exactly the purifier is about to go
8427s	down as well I think that's a good move
8429s	from THL just get that free kill get
8431s	that damage cuz it is one of those ships
8433s	that can Linger on the game and still
8435s	has
8437s	arounds the like I could do something
8439s	the the reps are are landing fast but I
8442s	just don't think I think the the
8443s	advantage right now is for THL they just
8445s	have a stronger call oh wow I'm just
8446s	looking the pond I believe has got the
8449s	uh Pilgrim tackled yeah Pont went out
8451s	and tackled the pilgrim and look at the
8452s	battleships running in for it respect
8454s	who's the Ponty Parts name hold on I
8456s	need to find him hold on TIG no was it
8458s	TIG Tiger Tiger well done mate that's
8460s	beautiful he tackled right at the time
8462s	the ship died I mean he is a I mean the
8464s	THL team has a lot of season Pence a lot
8467s	of parts they go I'm a tackle ship I
8468s	tackle things like no you need to tackle
8469s	at the right time he tackled the moment
8471s	it was time to move to a new Target so
8473s	he didn't basically give attention to
8474s	himself he was quiet sneaky tackle and
8477s	here we go they are all coming for the
8478s	kill I also think white school if
8480s	they're going to have a chance to take
8481s	this down they got to get the uh the tu2
8484s	log FRS down I think this is such an
8486s	uphill battle for wh score they still
8488s	have the rest their team like contact
8491s	together right now but obviously the
8492s	pilgrim will be the next Target which I
8494s	think is a good call get the TDS off but
8496s	I don't think there's any real immediate
8498s	danger to like any of the B they have to
8500s	murder the small land like white scool
8502s	has the tools they've got super
8503s	Confessor they got a sky Breer to start
8504s	deleting drones they need to start
8505s	killing the load as quickly as they can
8507s	because in a bwl against B ships they
8509s	will not win they and so in these sort
8511s	of matches if you if right now it's 3 to
8514s	one batt oh oh I just no something uh
8516s	The Tempest fleet has decided to hug the
8519s	Hyperion you should be the other side of
8521s	the Arena sir you have projection you
8523s	don't need to be within zero why did you
8525s	go towards it most most likely the
8529s	Hyperion probably Amia dce man probably
8531s	just is on top of him scramming him
8533s	which he is and probably was his
8534s	probably his Target call for the start
8536s	and as soon as as soon as um the
8539s	Redeemer died he probably just went
8540s	straight to him so I mean he's going to
8541s	try and go for the kill I get he's
8543s	probably loaded hail you need to control
8544s	space Tempest bro I guess he's trying to
8546s	go for the kill here but my man you
8548s	could have been like 40K away shooting
8549s	him you didn't need to be at zero my boy
8551s	I think um I mean right now the damage
8553s	is going across the board on score I
8555s	think THL are kind of splitting their
8557s	damage to try and confuse maybe the unus
8558s	or something the pilgrim is in low armor
8561s	right now I mean am Mia Darkman is
8562s	taking a lot of armor damage but he's I
8564s	mean he's not in any trouble I don't
8566s	think like he's got a local tank he's
8567s	got the still the Reps from the Lodi
8569s	frigs the purifi taking a bit of damage
8571s	I think we're going to I think what THL
8573s	need to do get the pilgrim down that
8575s	basically frees up their guns the aband
8576s	can then apply also quick mention as
8578s	well the logy frigs for truth on a l I
8580s	just seen where they are they are close
8582s	to the Hyperion but they are away from
8584s	the Tempest Fleet and other Target they
8585s	are at the perfect spot rep your friend
8587s	and not get caught I mean logi fre pting
8590s	is actually really hard it's I honestly
8592s	I'm glad I don't try to do it because
8593s	it's like you have to know the entire
8594s	grid and know your own range it's such a
8597s	it's like a dance right it's an art you
8598s	got to get just right and you need to
8600s	know your partner because in the logy
8602s	figs usually you're off burner which
8605s	means you basically you can go really
8607s	fast in One Direction but turning can be
8608s	a bit of a nightmare Tempest Fleet stop
8610s	moving control space just control space
8612s	stop trying to move control space and
8614s	just shoot him please I just saw him
8615s	move in like semi bump the Hyperion
8617s	again and it's I'm not going to lie it's
8619s	mildly triggering purifier is about to
8621s	go down getting bit reps the is doing a
8623s	fantastic job for wh score I mean we
8625s	can't write them off that quickly right
8627s	now they paid good money for the onos
8628s	and the pilgrim and they've done pretty
8630s	well with those Parts I just feel
8631s	they're kind of lacking the to really
8633s	start getting some damage however I was
8636s	kind of joking on The Temper Fleet the
8638s	Hyperion starting to tick down he's
8640s	taking a bit of damage and also the th
8641s	has taking damage the Deacon's got a bit
8643s	of damage the purifier is about to go
8645s	down but he's not he's he's he's the
8646s	sliver of structure he does go down soit
8649s	a lot of damage going off the grid for
8651s	school um they are they're very cheap
8653s	and they have about 500 I say 500 DPS
8655s	using torps I think oh yeah oh yeah and
8656s	that's that basically Bou up killers
8658s	look at the abon just flying and just
8660s	Ram the temper Fleet he's probably going
8662s	to ruin his tracking for a little while
8663s	that was beautiful he just came just
8665s	bumped him it's probably actually going
8666s	to help temper Fleet he'll get him off
8668s	of zero on the and the and the Hyperion
8670s	I think THL probably switching to The
8671s	Tempest just because I think maybe the
8673s	pressure on the Hyperion he may be
8675s	feeling it he might be running out a
8677s	pace or something and they just like get
8678s	it down he's right next to him anyway
8679s	you can just start shooting him yeah I
8681s	just one moments where I I'm kind of
8682s	silly what they've got two Sentinels
8685s	yeah there's M there's a reason why the
8686s	temper Fleet is at zero yeah yeah he
8688s	he's trying to get as close as he can
8690s	and also like he's going to get locked
8691s	down Anyway by the Hyperion so it
8693s	doesn't really matter what H yeah that
8695s	now that I remember that like yeah fair
8696s	enough he's probably getting to zero to
8697s	try and get hailed actually app yeah I
8700s	mean whoops my bad there's a lot of
8702s	damage going across the field on THL
8703s	right now I think wh SC just trying to I
8706s	mean the deacons the Deacon and the
8707s	Thalia need to sort of Bounce Around The
8709s	Grid to try and keep things up and the
8711s	Sentinels are probably pretty far away
8713s	from them right now uh which they are I
8715s	think I think cess PR being pressured by
8717s	something what is he being shot by is
8718s	that bunch of Warriors yeah bunch of
8720s	worries on him right now but he has come
8722s	back to his his logy frigs I'm honestly
8724s	amazed like these Sentinels should be
8725s	free pickings for like two tactical
8727s	destroyers and a bunch of drones and
8728s	they're still chilling on grid the vles
8731s	are looks to be locked down in the
8732s	center Thalia taking a lot of damage as
8734s	well I mean this is a real dance we've
8736s	only seen like two ships die but it's
8738s	very close everything is so low in armor
8740s	especially on THL I mean the Magus the H
8742s	period is getting so low my man I'm
8744s	getting scared magas y Magus getting
8745s	pounded down the magas is going to go
8747s	down which is huge links going off the
8749s	grid for for SC they still have the
8752s	Ponty links as well but Amilia dark in
8753s	the Hyperion is getting low but that
8755s	being said the Tempest Fe issue I think
8757s	is going to go down soon I think even if
8759s	the Hyperion goes down now there's got
8761s	two abdons that are basically sitting
8762s	perfectly at zero with no movement just
8765s	deleting him so I think even the
8766s	Hyperion goes down which would be a true
8768s	shame to lose a Hyperion I mean they're
8770s	still going to get the fact of the
8771s	matter is like the fact that the Tempest
8774s	Fue is still holding on after all this
8776s	time and managing to well they they
8778s	haven't really haven't killed anything
8780s	yet
8781s	if come a bit close if we we've got to a
8783s	low structure on a low armor and a lot
8785s	of things but I mean the the the Lodi
8787s	figs Lucas Quan and Tin are doing a
8789s	fantastic job keeping everybody up as
8791s	well Hillary in the near I think the
8793s	both the logi parts on both sides doing
8795s	a good job obviously Hillary's got a bit
8796s	of a harder job because there's a lot
8798s	more damage coming out from uh the THL
8801s	team and probably there's a lot of
8802s	pressure right now on the 10 exactly
8804s	that I'm also wondering I think the onos
8807s	might be getting like turbo nuded out by
8810s	the Sentinels
8811s	uh potentially one of them I believe is
8813s	on top of him yes is he on top yeah I
8815s	think there we go yep one is definitely
8817s	ning that has been suffering cap issues
8820s	he been suffering a lot of damage so
8822s	honestly big respect to Hillary for the
8823s	good logi work here you've managed to
8825s	keep this team up together when honestly
8827s	I I didn't think it would last this long
8828s	yeah I mean we're going to see now snor
8830s	going into low structure about to go
8831s	down hit the The Last Hope of the school
8834s	team and there's only 41 seconds on the
8836s	clock THL not losing anything game a
8839s	clean sweep it's very before two ships
8841s	go down in a second they're well two
8842s	ships go down I think that is it now for
8844s	score I mean fantastically well played
8846s	by THL and also I think the survives and
8849s	the Hyperion survives Amelia survives in
8851s	the Hyperion and also I don't think
8854s	they've I think THL got um 200 to zero
8856s	in well in the last match so I don't
8858s	think they've lost the ship yet I
8860s	believe the only thing they've spent in
8861s	these tournaments is ammo that's that's
8863s	it just just I know we see some people
8867s	saying that someone someone DCd or
8869s	something local but that's that's just
8872s	part of the the experience it's
8874s	tournaments man things happen things
8875s	happen and it can't control them there's
8877s	the Tim of there thank you so much truth
8879s	on a light well played I love the
8880s	Hyperion and with that we'll take a
8882s	break and go back to the
8884s	studio on a light taking the victory
8887s	over white squall um but most
8889s	importantly the white squall pacifist
8891s	run is still alive uh unfortunately for
8893s	them they didn't actually manage to kill
8894s	a ship in that that uh that matchup
8896s	right there um but boy did they make it
8899s	difficult for a truth on a light
8901s	I shout out the Lodie pilot on white
8903s	squall yesterday um he basically put the
8906s	team on his back and carried them into
8907s	that one-nil Victory by keeping
8909s	everybody alive today he made it really
8912s	really hard for truth on the light to to
8914s	break some of them like that purifier
8915s	lived for ages like way longer than he
8917s	had any right to do so and honestly at
8919s	one point that Hyperion was like pretty
8921s	close to breaking it was just if the if
8923s	the purifier was still alive then
8925s	perhaps perhaps that would have happened
8927s	uh but Ali let's talk about the Sentinel
8929s	it's a it's a ship in these type of
8932s	matchups getting uh flashbacks from
8934s	every single time I've been an alliance
8936s	tournament match and in this situation
8938s	like that onos and hearing the capacitor
8940s	is empty the capacitor cap the capacitor
8942s	is empty so the Sentinel has small NES
8946s	and a a Nos and it Cycles very very
8949s	quickly so once that Sentinel drains a
8951s	ship's capacitor it can just leave the
8953s	NOS on you turn a n on occasionally and
8956s	it makes it very very hard to take get
8958s	Advantage from your cat boosters so even
8960s	though you can boost through uh against
8963s	large NES usually you can boost activate
8965s	your modules have like 5 Seconds of time
8967s	to do anything against a sentinel really
8969s	there's not any time yeah and um you
8973s	mentioned it briefly but I just want to
8974s	hit on is a lot of people with uh things
8976s	like Sentinel uh with nozes and nutes
8978s	they will just slap everything on the
8979s	Target that they are they are nting and
8981s	nosing obviously the NOS lets them keep
8983s	their own capacitor up but if you pay
8985s	attention and see that you're getting
8986s	nothing back from the energy uh nose you
8989s	can just turn off the NES because you
8991s	know that it is dead in cap and you
8993s	don't have to waste your own cap running
8994s	an extra n as well so we did see a
8996s	couple of times um the N went off the
8998s	Unos and then a little while later it
9000s	came back on again cuz this is like sort
9002s	of high level piloting where every
9003s	little bit of capacitor counts so you're
9005s	going to be turning it off managing it
9007s	CP Aurora do you think um there was a
9009s	path to victory for white s in that
9010s	particular matchup I think they were
9013s	they they had a rough match up just
9015s	based on the the ships that hit the
9016s	field so uh white squall had brought a
9018s	lot of uh ships that could be used for
9020s	screening on their low end um kind of
9023s	anticipating a very positional game with
9025s	truth honor light which is a smart move
9028s	given uh your opponent um but truth
9030s	honor light uh didn't quite go that way
9033s	they weren't they weren't going for for
9035s	things that were very range dependent uh
9037s	they mostly they they brought three
9039s	super thick battleships um anybody who
9042s	has played the game is is roughly
9043s	familiar that the the badens and the
9045s	Hyperion they just have a ton of tank um
9049s	and so they're really just kind of
9051s	bricks and the way that you defend them
9052s	instead of screening and positional
9054s	Gameplay at least for truth honor light
9056s	lights comp was to just flood them with
9059s	control um so during that match you saw
9061s	basically the control bar for almost
9063s	every ship on the other side was just
9064s	utterly full uh it was very much a dance
9067s	of uh trying to get things on and off um
9072s	uh what they really needed to do was try
9073s	and get at some of those smaller support
9076s	ships on the truth honor Light Side they
9077s	weren't able to do that yeah uh but
9080s	again just wanted to shout out that
9082s	that's a that a tough matchup uh for any
9084s	team uh truth on a light uh multiple
9086s	lines Tournament winning uh Team
9088s	basically made up of uh Champions
9090s	essentially just some of the best
9091s	individual pilots in the game Amelia is
9094s	also one of the current CSM members um
9097s	CSM elections are open right now by the
9099s	way go and vote uh it's super good um
9102s	and then you have a people like control
9103s	freak he used to be in the Volta team uh
9105s	there was plenty of people from Hydra
9106s	reloaded there a couple of PL guys in
9108s	there tons of M
9110s	uh over the years from this team so one
9112s	of the most individually experienced
9114s	teams and of course cadesh he is one of
9117s	the best three Crafters the D L's
9118s	probably ever seen and the maintainer of
9120s	pipa so I like that too thank you very
9122s	much we like pipa here um but yeah that
9124s	was an awesome one let's look at our
9125s	next matchups this one is going to be
9127s	paper numbers versus root Capel and
9129s	before we get to the bands before we get
9131s	to the bands no one pushed the button
9132s	yet I believe we have a spokesperson
9133s	video for RO Capel so let's uh see what
9136s	Ro Capel have to say about
9138s	themselves hey there space friends my
9140s	name my name is R Hino and I'm a member
9142s	of root Capel rot was formed in 2008 as
9145s	a PVP focused Alliance and we've been
9147s	all over the Galaxy looking for fights
9149s	from Syndicate to Providence to Aquarius
9152s	to Great wildlands to Tribute to pan and
9155s	now back to great wildlands we go where
9158s	the small gang action is and where there
9159s	isn't any we make more rot first
9162s	competed in Alliance tournament 7 but
9164s	our founding members were part of the
9165s	star fraction team that Beat Band of
9167s	Brothers with the 10 thorax charge in
9169s	at4
9170s	since then we've been in it most every
9172s	year winning some spectacular matches
9174s	and losing some Heartbreakers it's not
9176s	easy balancing tournament practice with
9178s	PVP on Tranquility but our team is
9180s	dedicated and we make it work you should
9183s	cheer for whoever brings you Joy this
9185s	tournament aside from my own team I
9187s	always cheer for templus they've won it
9189s	all before they're always fun to watch
9191s	and they're just a good bunch of dudes
9193s	but if you do choose to cheer for Road
9195s	Capel make sure to spam those mados up
9200s	there you are that is root Capel I see
9202s	plenty of madmazel being spammed in chat
9205s	uh I always appreciate a good madelle
9207s	spamming all right let's look at the
9208s	bands for paper numbers versus root
9210s	Capel and these are interesting ones The
9211s	Sentinel the one we just talked about uh
9213s	they're like yep GTFO don't want to face
9216s	that just get that right out curse
9217s	crucifier arbitrator as well and then uh
9220s	Ro Capel Banning out the night talk the
9222s	Loki so getting rid of that ham Rush the
9224s	arth and of course the zlade uh what do
9226s	you make of this so paper numbers are
9228s	doing some bands that we've seen a lot
9230s	through this tournament this is the I
9232s	want to fly ships and not deal with that
9235s	pesky very effective control comp we've
9237s	seen arbitrators we've talked about
9238s	Sentinels none of those get them out of
9240s	there meanwhile the Rog Capel bands are
9243s	shutting out a lot of the most effective
9244s	Shield comps so no rush the orthis is
9247s	often a key ship in the missile kite and
9249s	the Zade in case you plan to bring armor
9252s	control anyway think again get a worst
9254s	lodgy ship yep and CCP any any comments
9257s	on these bands here uh like we said in
9260s	previous matches when you ban out all of
9262s	this uh uh these control ships like the
9264s	Sentinel the curse the crucifier the
9266s	arbitrator it is uh opening up the
9268s	number of comps that that we can field
9271s	um I think most notably is the medium
9273s	gum spam that we've sent so much of this
9275s	uh this weekend it's very likely we
9277s	could see uh additional implementations
9279s	of that in this match um those haven't
9281s	been hit so much uh there is still a lot
9284s	open uh that could be interesting uh
9287s	given these bands uh it was just very
9289s	specifically
9290s	that particular uh those particular
9293s	control comps are very limiting and so
9295s	this gives the teams a little bit more T
9297s	more room to kind of like out maneuver
9299s	and outthink each other in the comp
9301s	selection I think one thing I think that
9304s	is worth also adding on is that uh both
9307s	teams have their flagships available
9309s	we've seen some Flagship assassination
9310s	squads so far wrote Capel they've banned
9313s	the flagship assassination Squad oh
9315s	that's rud that's very rid of them but I
9318s	mean with this uh with this arm M BAND
9321s	um the we've seen another team bring a
9322s	Riva into that um what are your quick
9325s	thoughts on on that bringing Riva
9327s	instead both those ships have very
9329s	strong repping abilities based on that
9332s	scaling rep it's just like the
9334s	triglavian damage you spool the rep up
9336s	to Max and then it deals it reps
9339s	fantastic amount at Fantastic ranges the
9341s	zarm is much better even than the onos
9343s	or other T2 armor logi ships the Riva
9346s	it's a little bit less survivable but
9348s	honestly it's still more survivable than
9350s	its T1 equivalent so it's better than
9353s	the augur it's much better than the exe
9355s	which we barely ever see on the grid so
9357s	it if there is a comp that could take
9360s	the Zade it might take the Riva instead
9363s	awesome well let's find out so let's
9365s	head over to the arena for paper numbers
9367s	versus root
9370s	Capel good day there mates welcome to
9372s	the arena I'm of course Winer and we've
9373s	got a beautiful match of one of my
9375s	favorite teams versus R Capel who's also
9377s	kind of one of my favorite teams what
9378s	are you looking at here uh safy all
9379s	right now R Capel armagan EOS two
9382s	pilgrims Vex Navy Shon effect with nuron
9384s	two loif figs I mean is there a flag on
9387s	grid there is a flag on grid and it's
9389s	flown by quite literally my favorite
9391s	pilot in the AR T Ryerson however I
9393s	believe he had some issues and the flag
9395s	got put to
9397s	zero which is good it could be good or
9400s	bad I would say that except if you look
9402s	what's the closest ship next to him it's
9403s	a nural I mean yeah this is about to be
9408s	a very very painful day it's always a
9411s	number rule never to go zero anyway CU
9412s	you don't know what you're going to be
9413s	up against so you know being at range is
9415s	good so the Dagan might have to burn
9417s	away and try and get away he's going to
9419s	burn the nles might go in and Tackle him
9422s	but I do like the paper numbers team I
9424s	think the the armagan on the a road team
9426s	and the
9427s	EOS good comes the tackle Here Comes The
9430s	Tackle and nle going straight in I mean
9432s	drones out we've got plenty of hornets
9434s	we got Valkyries we' got acolytes we got
9436s	peras out so the looks like the oh wait
9438s	hold on did he not get did he get away
9441s	with that okay no he's been webbed he's
9442s	been SC fair enough I think they just
9444s	Ned nle out for a cycle there so he is
9446s	tackled the flag is tackled straight
9448s	away the flag is tackled straight away
9449s	which I think I don't think could be the
9451s	good choice here Khan in the Vex Navy
9453s	she will be paper numers primary which I
9454s	think is a good primary T1 faction
9457s	Cruiser however it does get that very
9459s	very sexy rep bonus so it's it's one of
9461s	the tankiest T1 Cruiser to try and kill
9464s	I also well he's not tackled right now
9466s	um he should be able to oh he is tackled
9468s	sorry he's got a web and he's got TP on
9470s	so he's definitely yeah he'll definitely
9471s	go down I think that's a really good
9473s	call get him off the grid and I think
9475s	maybe they should try and go for the
9476s	pilgrims I think wait hold that's KH
9478s	wasn't K Pas in the r flag last match
9480s	they were in um which is very funny CU
9482s	so he's currently being targeted by a
9483s	flag so it's like one of those beautiful
9485s	turnarounds but and as I said they came
9487s	off the armag again Navy not a good
9489s	choice for that I think he's going if
9490s	he's fit correctly he's going to have a
9491s	l of tank so I think go for the deacons
9495s	and much better get the Reps down first
9497s	um KH goes down the Vex naav she first
9499s	Bob to pap num I think paper numbers
9501s	really capitalizing this right now cuz
9502s	their Deacon does go down so time will
9504s	run out for them exactly yeah and man
9506s	going up against double Pilgrim that is
9508s	pain look at the amount of guidance
9509s	disruptors they they went heavy on the
9511s	guidance disruptors on this comp so they
9513s	are just absolutely suffering right now
9515s	there's a lot of control on F A lot of
9516s	evil going on a lot of webs and I think
9519s	they're going for the Deacon again which
9520s	I think is a good move for finish it off
9521s	finish get rid of the Reps and just
9523s	focus on they probably battleships
9525s	afterwards yes I would suspect they
9527s	would definitely go for a TFI there
9529s	however there is a certain little uh
9531s	purifier that might want to be deleted
9533s	first I think yeah get the damage off
9534s	the G but they could put they could put
9536s	a couple Jones on him and he don't
9537s	forget the score and the sore we mustn't
9539s	forget the sore who arm a s who is
9541s	actually pting really well and is really
9543s	far away from the fight right now yeah
9544s	exactly that he's just free missiles but
9545s	the damage right now from papers is not
9547s	really Landing anywhere they are going
9549s	for the vexa they are trying to break
9551s	through him which to be fair T1 tank is
9553s	kind of hopeful to kill him off but he's
9555s	too I think he's just a bit too far away
9556s	he's only got a TP on him and I don't
9558s	think he'll die I think he's too far
9559s	away simply because of the guidance
9560s	disruptor that is ruining all of these
9562s	triple batt battleships at the moment
9563s	yeah I think that the pilgrims are
9565s	really doing a number the Deacon goes
9566s	down so that is a rep's gone for paper
9568s	numbers this is not good it's not
9570s	looking too good for Ron in there I'm my
9572s	go nav sh my boys my boys I I don't know
9575s	want to know what that flag is how shiny
9577s	it is but they're looking poor at the
9578s	moment purify about to go down as well
9581s	and the Ponte in a bit of armor purify a
9584s	good call get the damage damage off
9586s	which is it's free it's easy to kill Get
9588s	It Off the Grid get some points on but
9590s	numbers guys you need to lock down
9591s	something and go for it but the pilgrims
9593s	are doing their work aren't they oh yeah
9594s	I don't they can lock down anything
9596s	they're like being double webbed down by
9597s	something I'm trying to figure out
9598s	exactly which Target is webbing though
9600s	well right now Rotan looks to be the
9601s	primary oh no the Deacon's about to go
9603s	down well paper number is now going to
9604s	go for the Deacon um from Ro which is I
9608s	mean if they can get him down that is a
9609s	huge win he is grappled he is tpd he is
9612s	now normal webbed as well he's starting
9613s	to pull away he's trying to get range
9615s	the other guys come in for the Reps as
9616s	well and he's down saved they kill him
9619s	anyway well done
9620s	a huge win from paper numbers get theia
9622s	down they still have three Bs left a lot
9625s	of HP a lot of damage and a lot of
9627s	utility in those top end ships and I
9628s	think R have now realized this and
9630s	thought we need to get the battleships
9631s	down y yep and I just noticed as well
9633s	that at the moment the Armageddon Navy
9635s	is slightly free to do what he wants and
9637s	he doesn't get um strong NES but he does
9639s	get the extra range which is kind of
9640s	useful they are beating down the aalia
9642s	now as well I really think paper numers
9645s	getting the Thalia down here and I think
9646s	they should just go for the gon
9648s	immediately after this don't time on
9650s	anything else try I mean there are
9651s	pilgrims on grid but I think if they get
9653s	the armag again down I think they're
9655s	safe I'll probably say vexa first then
9657s	armagedon but yes I do agree kill it
9659s	kill it kill right now Pap numbers are
9661s	in a lead I don't know that's such a
9663s	hard I thought that's hly a hard call I
9665s	kind of get what you're saying but like
9666s	the more the match goes on the more
9668s	ships die the more those pilgrims become
9670s	utterly ruinous I mean but they got
9672s	three battles ships on grid yeah they're
9673s	completely tackled and you know they're
9675s	not going anywhere but they have a lot
9677s	more HP than than the uh Road team the
9680s	vas is about to go down as well the reps
9681s	are all gone for both teams I do favor
9683s	papers here they just need to start
9685s	really applying their damage as best as
9687s	they can with the pilgrims they're never
9688s	going to get the pilgrims they're too
9689s	far away leave them alone they are too
9691s	far away there's no point in going for
9692s	them they got to make it work I think
9694s	you got to go for the get I wouldn't
9695s	even go for the EOS that's also a very
9696s	annoyingly tanky ship sometimes I think
9698s	get the vexa down and now go for
9699s	whatever's next to you and just try and
9701s	get him down the gedon is in well
9703s	everything's really close to EOS re in
9704s	the center another option maybe cheekily
9707s	try and volley off the nurgle who was
9708s	right next to the Ty which means he's
9710s	perfectly in grapple range so maybe try
9713s	and quickly kill but I think go big
9714s	people numers need to focus now on on on
9717s	on a and it looks like they're going for
9719s	the ears which I think is a good call
9720s	trying to get him down he is yeah he's
9722s	the closest to all the battleships which
9723s	is I wonder how many missiles they got
9725s	left in this clip before they reload I
9727s	think they are rapid Heavies I didn't
9728s	actually check I mean even even yeah how
9731s	Miss they got left before they clip out
9732s	can they kill them in time even even so
9734s	I think they will uh even if they even
9736s	if they don't finish the clip I think
9737s	they've got plenty of time I mean look
9739s	how slow J and the Typhon F she's dying
9742s	yeah he he's repping up himself with
9744s	what I believe is an Anil and when that
9745s	runs out he'll still have some rep he's
9748s	got a lot of drone mean look at the
9748s	Drone ball on him I'm not he's not going
9750s	to be entirely left alone but when again
9753s	it starts to get really bad really quick
9755s	you think you're good all a sudden the
9756s	an runs out you're like oh no he's still
9757s	got a lot of drones in him he's a lot
9759s	lot of um hornets and Vespers on him
9761s	right now but if he they trade him for
9763s	an EOS that's massive that's a really
9765s	good trade I agree if they could trade
9767s	him for the EOS entirely that's honestly
9769s	an absolute win they can now just focus
9770s	down the again that's the last real
9771s	damage on the comp and also look at the
9773s	nle just got deleted I don't what killed
9774s	it the just died I think it was a couple
9776s	of drones that got him or something yeah
9777s	actually hold on let me just check yeah
9779s	that was a bunch of drones I believe
9780s	well done EOS goes down honestly hell
9783s	yeah to paper numbers I was worried but
9785s	you were right I mean they are so back
9788s	they are so back this is like your the
9790s	first match you had we're done we're
9792s	done we're done oh we're back and this
9794s	is the one of the real pros of having
9796s	like a three Battleship top heavy core
9797s	because then you can still sacrifice
9800s	your logic figs and you trade well and
9802s	at the end like a game like this you're
9804s	you're on top you have more HP more
9806s	damage and you can just last out Outlast
9808s	the other team look I mean J is now in
9810s	structure he should be able to
9812s	potentially rep up I think the get might
9813s	be able to get him down but look how
9815s	fast the again is going down now I don't
9816s	know if he be a to wrap up at the very
9817s	least he will take so long to die now I
9819s	think he may not even die at all no he's
9822s	he's going to take a long time to get
9823s	there I think he's going to survive for
9824s	the rest of it and also to note there is
9826s	a flag uh armagan Navy issue which yeah
9829s	which is which is basically say like a
9831s	armag nav and a half or potentially two
9833s	so it's like you know they have like
9835s	three and a half BHS basically extra
9837s	half on the ship and yeah exactly
9838s	essentially in terms of tank and and
9840s	damage and things I think actually yeah
9842s	they with the with the situation as it
9844s	is they've got it well done I honestly
9845s	was really worried that the pilgrims
9847s	looked very scary I know I mean at the
9849s	beginning you saw there like Pap is kind
9851s	of faltering a bit not really too sure
9853s	what to do but they just got through
9854s	those as soon as the two lodic frigs
9856s	from rope went down they thought we've
9858s	got this now the main the barrier that
9860s	was the only barrier because the
9862s	pilgrims can just track and disrupt or
9864s	GD everything Y and then just sit back
9866s	and make waiting game but it managed to
9868s	get through the deacons and I like
9871s	watching the small end constantly Dying
9872s	by the way like another Mish just about
9873s	to go down they killed a uh I think it
9875s	was the the PO Ponty a little bit
9877s	earlier than that they are just
9878s	murdering the small end but the big end
9880s	just died so it's like well you killed a
9882s	few small ships but you did kind of lose
9884s	the last big damage you got get him
9885s	going down but Rach still trying to kill
9887s	some stuff which I really I really rate
9889s	it teams don't just give up and they
9891s	just keep keep fighting till the end two
9894s	pilgrims left and a Ponte for RO Capel I
9896s	mean fantastic win for paper numbers I'm
9898s	so happy for my boy paper numbers like
9900s	said again rifles is one of my favorite
9902s	Parts he didn't do the usual rifon thing
9904s	mjd absolutely everywhere well he got
9907s	put at zero yeah he got put at zero and
9909s	got tackled so yeah which kind of worked
9911s	out cuz they went for him at the
9913s	beginning and then we're like oh no was
9915s	it for debate I don't know I know
9919s	probably not it's in the rules that if
9921s	you know if you miss your War
9923s	window to zero um but I mean he played
9927s	it well I mean he did burn back to get
9929s	back to his team and I think I think he
9931s	his team moved forward as well to kind
9933s	of like match and get together I wonder
9935s	if that was I'm that wonder if that was
9936s	4D chess they like oh no I've been put
9939s	to zero now you guys will shoot me I
9941s	think I think rot though they should
9943s	have just gone past him and ignored him
9944s	don't even bother shooting him there's
9946s	such a hard thing to say though cuz
9948s	again the main part of this compo is
9949s	three you kind have to deal with them at
9950s	some point it's one of those like you're
9953s	kind of damned if you do gam if you
9954s	don't you got to find the right way
9955s	through the path but hey brao well done
9958s	for both teams I mean looking at
9960s	iscandar in the last Pilgrim about to go
9962s	down you're happy for your boys aren't
9964s	you yes yes there we go mate thank you
9967s	very much paper numbers thank you much R
9969s	Capel and with that we'll take a break
9970s	and then go back to the
9973s	studio paper numbers uh taking the
9976s	Victory and moving One Step deeper into
9979s	the upper bracket they will go forward
9981s	to face truth honor light in their next
9983s	matchup that will be next Saturday uh
9986s	our other
9987s	uh moving forward into the upper bracket
9990s	teams are till doomsday who will play
9991s	Platinum sensitivity uh we have a couple
9993s	more uh upper bracket matches to go
9995s	through today to get the whole top eight
9998s	uh sorted for next time um and our next
10001s	match which we'll get in a little bit
10002s	will be one of those as well so uh fear
10005s	welcome back fear and bart fart or maybe
10008s	Bart and fear beer that's probably
10009s	better let's go with beer yeah I think
10011s	we'll go with the second one second
10012s	one's better yeah definitely a better
10013s	one um what do you think about that
10015s	match fear uh you know there's one of
10019s	these things right you ban out every
10021s	single trackon dis ship except one right
10024s	you leave the pilgrim up other team
10026s	brings a pilgrim what happens um so
10028s	typically we've seen teams ban the uh
10031s	track and disruption when they've wanted
10032s	to take something like a medium gun spam
10034s	this time around it's a very generic set
10036s	of bands as well they decide to go with
10039s	uh rapid Heavies and with their Flagship
10041s	um so when the pilgrims come in they
10043s	have three guidance disruptors and those
10045s	guidance disruptors go on top of the
10046s	rapid heavy ships and that works out
10048s	perfectly fine for them however uh those
10051s	rapid heavy ships only have one guidance
10052s	disruptor on each of them it's not like
10054s	it's cheesed or anything like that so
10055s	you have everything split out and you're
10057s	able to actually apply two things as we
10060s	saw the the rabbit Heavies plus a couple
10062s	paints from a Squall and another source
10065s	uh we're able to take down these Lodi um
10067s	despite the fact that they're high Fe
10068s	missiles up against uh after burning uh
10070s	logy frots and uh from there they just
10073s	kind of were able to snowball and work
10075s	around these guidance disruption in a
10077s	more effective way than we've seen a lot
10078s	of other teams deal with the same type
10081s	of ships yeah and B any any other
10084s	hard-hitting analysis of that particular
10086s	match up there yeah it's I don't know I
10088s	mean it's it's a king Slayer setup they
10090s	apply very very well there's they did
10092s	not bring enough guidance disruptors I
10093s	think also the the positioning was just
10096s	not there um at the end of the day like
10099s	why are your deacons close enough to get
10100s	blown like why are your why are your
10101s	logistic ships ever close enough to a
10104s	guidance disrupted Battleship to take
10106s	damage from it right um you know it is
10108s	what it is there there was a chance I
10110s	actually uh when the match first started
10111s	I looked in I was like ah okay well you
10113s	know I had to really quickly run off and
10115s	you know get get some M&M's as one does
10117s	and I uh was like ah I see well I I know
10120s	who wins this one I came back and you're
10122s	like oh they logi traded and then it
10123s	went horribly wrong so um you know it is
10125s	what it is I think there was maybe a
10126s	little bit of positioning error there
10128s	that did not happen to happen but it did
10131s	uh not talking about you know the
10132s	battleship that was mysteriously in the
10134s	middle of the Arena but you know that
10136s	was not uh I guess that kind of was a
10138s	positioning error yes that was a that
10140s	was a skill error uh essentially so if
10142s	you've never played in an alliance
10143s	tournament before um the way it works is
10146s	you sit in a station wherever you want
10147s	to be GAA is pretty common uh you sit
10150s	there you get your your your boys
10151s	together in in the fleet and when the
10154s	match is about to start the uh referees
10156s	basically teleport the whole team uh
10158s	into different beac you can't see the
10160s	other team you can't descan them they
10161s	way out of range uh and you're like in a
10163s	really nice line all the ships are kind
10164s	of one by one by one it's very aesthetic
10166s	it's way you take the screenshots um
10169s	this when this happens you are locked
10170s	like you can't do anything you can't
10172s	move um and then the warping is unlocked
10175s	everyone their warps to the arena it's
10176s	locked again so the idea being that you
10178s	can't like send someone really fast and
10180s	then wait to see what's coming in on
10182s	desan and then tell the rest of your
10183s	your buddies to warp in after you you
10185s	need to be in warp before that is
10187s	possible if you don't then you get
10189s	teleported to zero for basically
10192s	breaking the rules now in that last
10194s	match uh the flagship Armageddon Navy
10196s	issue uh he forgot to warp he just
10199s	forgot uh he went through his checklist
10201s	he was like drones check ammo check
10204s	preheated everything check right I am
10206s	ready and at that point he realized the
10208s	rest of his team was gone um so he was
10210s	teleported to zero uh so bit of a
10212s	positioning eror they luckily managed to
10213s	recover it he managed to pull back uh
10215s	and they obviously took the took the dub
10217s	you know I think it kind of might have
10218s	worked out for them actually yeah I want
10220s	Bart on this one like I think it's it's
10222s	one of those it's it's a happy accident
10224s	you know there's there's you know no
10225s	mistakes just just happy little
10226s	accidents like getting teleported at
10228s	zero and the other team not having a
10230s	comp like cuz imagine if you get
10232s	teleported at zero and they have a
10233s	shield Rush you're like oo my flagships
10236s	dead oh that's bad but in this case it
10238s	actually was kind of like oh there's a
10239s	little bait ship there they now have to
10241s	play around the fact that they're
10242s	already closer than they would be
10243s	expected those they worked out you know
10245s	Ron's a very good pilot he's done the at
10247s	a lot him getting teleport to zero it's
10250s	like he's like yeah well yeah you know
10253s	what we could work with this well the
10254s	other thing right is that they're
10256s	against disruption setup so your
10257s	teleport to zero your gance disruption
10259s	is actually less effective because
10261s	you're going to be closer to the enemy
10263s	team than uh What uh you initially
10267s	thought with the guidance disruption so
10269s	uh as you mentioned happy little
10271s	accident yep all right let's move on to
10272s	our next match this is another uh upper
10274s	bracket one uh and the last one before
10276s	the break so the tuskers co versus Rage
10278s	Quit cancel and before we talk about the
10280s	bands uh let's have the tusker
10282s	spokesperson tell us a little bit about
10284s	their
10287s	AllianceOne um I'm Cur lion I am the
10291s	spokesperson of the alliance of the
10293s	tuskers for this year um we live
10296s	predominantly in wormholes uh but we do
10299s	not discriminate we PVP uh mainly Nano
10302s	gang and solo PVP all over New Eden
10306s	factional Warfare NC you're going to
10308s	find us everywhere um we love nanog
10311s	ganking versus uh much larger numbers
10315s	than us so if you see five dudes King 50
10318s	dudes that's probably us um how many
10321s	times we've competed I think it must be
10323s	over 15 with various levels of success
10326s	all over them even winning ones um yes
10330s	there are some teams that are definitely
10332s	in our eyesight like um fraternity for
10335s	example definitely ear in our eyes sites
10338s	uh Hydra always with all their teams um
10343s	why should people cheer for our team
10344s	well we're always polite and we play by
10347s	the rules and we love a non-toxic
10351s	environment so you know if you believe
10354s	in our tenants and our cor core values
10356s	of being modest and being polite
10360s	definitely cheer for us um you we're
10363s	always a safe bet for for your points
10366s	like we win most of the matches so there
10369s	you go uh my message to the other teams
10372s	go have fun um if you're a new team or
10374s	if you're an old team that's all that
10376s	matters go have fun um the captain of
10379s	our team is our esteemed miror Chief and
10383s	um I do have a message for the alliance
10385s	members go out there do you think you're
10388s	the best you know it and wax is sex
10392s	thank you very much and let's hope we
10393s	all have a good tournament
10396s	bye-bye awesome that is the T Co a very
10400s	experienced team uh they've been around
10401s	in Tranquility for a very long time they
10402s	won Alliance tournament 14 they came
10404s	second last year so a lot of experienced
10407s	people uh in in over years in that
10410s	Alliance let's take a quick look at the
10411s	bands for this upcoming match between
10412s	the tuskers co and rage quit cancel sub
10414s	uh the tuskers Banning out the zarm
10417s	maard uh this time uh the Scimitar the
10420s	crucifier and the pilgrim I think the
10422s	zard is a variation of the armade um I
10425s	think it's like the faction version uh
10426s	and then R Council sub Banning out the
10428s	EOS the aarti the onos and the mher uh
10432s	Bart what do you think about these bands
10433s	here yeah this is a rage quit cancel sub
10435s	is targeting exactly what tuskers
10437s	brought in their last match and they I
10439s	think they looked at it and they're like
10441s	oh we can't beat that because the
10442s	tuskers flagship we're going to have to
10444s	assume I mean they are rich they made a
10446s	lot of money last uh tournament so I
10448s	think rage kit cancel basically was like
10450s	oh no we have no way of beating that so
10453s	they're banning out that comp is it's I
10455s	would say it's pretty banned out except
10457s	that at the end of the day you know when
10458s	you have Mira Chief's massively wrinkly
10461s	brain on the desk uh you know he's doing
10464s	the planning he's probably like you
10466s	think you can stop me no so we'll we'll
10468s	see what happens on that one um tuskar
10470s	bands are just kind of like you know we
10472s	don't want to be track and disrupted we
10473s	want SARS we don't want uh was it the
10475s	zarm zarm maard zard the faction Zade
10479s	the faction zlade so it happens all
10482s	right well let's head over to the arena
10484s	for this match between the tuskers co
10486s	and rage quit cancel sub
10490s	welcome back to the arena we have
10492s	tuskers versus Rage Quit cancel sub and
10495s	yes on your screen you are seeing a
10497s	guardian with Fleet Cyclones and
10500s	Cyclones welcome to the Mad mind of Mir
10503s	what's going on interesting what of Rage
10504s	Quit got right now I'm looking just
10506s	double check I believe this is a full
10507s	mimar rush but I'm also just making sure
10508s	I'm not crazy and there like artillery
10510s	but no those are old cannons this is a
10511s	mimar rush with broadswords and and and
10516s	and rage quit cancel sub brought went at
10518s	zero completely
10519s	Z they're going to completely rush in
10521s	and try and get Tusk Tusk is going have
10523s	to kite away I actually do like kite
10525s	away in a guardian that's that that does
10527s	not sound like a fun experience I
10529s	actually do like the tuska setup I think
10531s	it's really interesting I mean they've
10532s	got the hugin which is going to be and
10534s	the Bell Co as well so the huging being
10536s	a key part of the Tusk team VOD has got
10539s	a job on his hand in this game they're
10541s	going to be able to apply really easily
10542s	I think they're definitely going to go
10543s	for the the ruptures maybe first they're
10545s	probably the the easiest yeah ruptures
10547s	are the free kill the Rapture the rapor
10549s	will probably charge in right at the
10550s	start which means it' be an instant kill
10551s	but that'll be rupture you've got the
10553s	Raptor the mo and the rupture and
10554s	they're going to be the first ones out
10555s	we go match starts let's see what the
10556s	Raptor does no no the Raptor went the
10558s	other way well done my man well done but
10560s	as expected though the rest of the call
10562s	going in webbed across the board from V
10564s	really good screening but some will get
10566s	through I here's the webs look at the
10567s	webs immedately the uh hugan being a
10569s	real pain double broads being both
10570s	webbed as well as the rupture so this
10572s	team is going to struggle to get in s
10574s	webbed as well they are really
10575s	stretching out those webs tusco is
10577s	priming the moment of that of loud I
10579s	think good call he's still coming out of
10581s	front I think what they done they've
10582s	they've webbed everything else and let
10584s	the mo come towards him which is a
10586s	fantastic really good pting from VD
10589s	exactly and the mo is about to die
10590s	that's honestly very well done the
10592s	Raptor I just noticed is being shot did
10593s	he try and sneak in yeah the Raptor
10595s	turned around and tried to rush in and
10596s	he's yeah yeah exactly mate like I I
10599s	know I know what you were trying to do
10601s	it was never going to work it's
10603s	difficult for the Raptor as soon as he
10604s	comes back in they're going to switch
10605s	into yeah exactly you're going to be
10607s	targetting you need to wait and like
10608s	wait your turn but yeah Bo gets deleted
10609s	as well has this comp grab
10612s	something no is the answer right now tus
10616s	is in a fantastic job of just kiting
10618s	away VD really good in the hugging
10620s	keeping everything back right now
10621s	they're in a really good position right
10622s	now Raptor's down M's down so two on the
10625s	scal now and pained I suspect they about
10627s	to try and delete the scal we'll see if
10628s	that actually happens I see damage
10629s	coming on to rupture right now I think
10631s	they can just burst through the T1
10632s	rupture quite easily but the scal now
10634s	you're right next to him is looks to be
10636s	the primary right now it makes the life
10638s	so much EAS if the logic goes you can
10639s	just take your time yeah pretty much I
10641s	think if they get the scalo down I think
10643s	that's pretty much over for the rage
10645s	quit team but V taking a bit damage M
10648s	car's taking a bit of damage as well but
10650s	probably just a little bit of you know
10652s	in optimal uh in fall off sorry for
10654s	maybe even drones actually I'm looking I
10655s	think that might be some drones up there
10656s	yeah there's a bunch of acolytes up
10657s	there so it looks like some drone damage
10659s	coming in Tusk is here this is a master
10661s	class and controlling your opponent team
10663s	this is a rush comp and they have it so
10665s	gimped that they can't even really shoot
10667s	like they' got the the hugan that is
10669s	just reaching out and webbing everything
10670s	and the mes are damping them while
10672s	they're there they can't even fire
10673s	barrage it's I mean the the the M the
10675s	two MERS combined combined with the
10677s	carries as well and the hugan loads of
10679s	damps loads of webs most these probably
10681s	the sness can't even shoot can't even
10683s	use Barrage at all the rupture about to
10685s	go down I mean the the oppression the
10687s	oppressive nature of the tusker setup is
10689s	immense and it must be really
10691s	frustrating a car's did get caught it
10693s	will not be a clean sweep unless the
10695s	carries get saved which to be fair the
10697s	Guardians got nothing else to do with
10698s	this time
10699s	no I think the the carries would
10700s	definitely die but I mean the scalers
10702s	are still holding on as I say that NEX
10704s	him just goes down you just cursed the
10708s	poor man he's like I'm doing great look
10709s	at me dead but and immediately dies I
10712s	mean with him going down I mean the
10713s	chances of Rage crit getting anything I
10715s	think have basically gone out of there
10716s	they're basically zero unless that hugan
10718s	manages to boundary or maybe DC this
10721s	team is perfectly controlled from now
10724s	until doomsday now can they do anything
10726s	they can maybe try and pull back go for
10727s	mjd play or do something else but
10729s	chasing will be a zero sum game for
10732s	there's just going to be no no chance of
10733s	Victory second scal goes down carrye
10735s	does die he was the only thing that was
10736s	tackled but right now they're not
10738s	looking too good I think VOD is going to
10741s	be the less ships on grid he's look at
10742s	it literally us webbing every single
10745s	ship so I mean with the armor comp right
10747s	now with VOD and hugging armor he's
10750s	going to have a bunch of web he's got a
10751s	full set of mids so he's probably got a
10753s	decent probably two or three webs I
10755s	would assume in his mid slots and
10756s	probably a marich driver something as
10759s	well and so he can definitely lock down
10760s	a bunch of a bunch of targets quite
10762s	easily I mean I'm wondering what's in
10763s	the mids of The Fleets now I wonder if
10764s	they may got a cheeky xlp or if it's
10766s	full like um like missile guid and stuff
10768s	like that probably probably on something
10771s	along those lines I'm expecting is that
10772s	but this is the thing this is a tuska
10773s	team with mirror in it I expect the
10775s	weird stuff to come out but this looks
10777s	like a very just full-on competent kcom
10779s	yeah you want to probably maximize your
10780s	your damage as much as possible and
10782s	increase your range cuz you're going to
10783s	be fighting um you know you want to be
10784s	projecting as far away as possible um
10786s	the brur goes down as well I mean s uh H
10790s	Fleet sorry of um Lucius is about to go
10792s	down as well that makes things worse too
10794s	cuz with another ship dead the webs now
10795s	go to the next ship and this is the one
10797s	it's a it's a cast list that happens oh
10799s	yeah same with the damps and like as
10800s	soon as one ship goes down you start
10802s	switching damps around and they get more
10803s	oppressive the more it's like it gets
10805s	worse and worse and worse it's like the
10807s	old ECM Thing Once one one ship dies the
10809s	ECM it just gets worse but yeah I'm
10811s	willing a bit Missy as some in the
10812s	background probably like going this is
10814s	how you do it this is how you fly this
10815s	thing I mean a really creative comp from
10817s	tuskers the first we've seen of this I
10819s	think this at uh the concept's been
10821s	around I think for other ATS but in this
10823s	one really well piloted as well the
10825s	carries did get caught yeah it it sorry
10828s	P it doesn't it doesn't really matter
10831s	though I mean the Lynch pin of this is
10833s	the huging yeah exactly and ALS like I
10835s	say this probably the first kiting
10837s	Guardian I've
10838s	seen maybe ever in my time with combined
10841s	with a kiting comp yeah exactly a kiteen
10844s	guard like actual kiteen Guardian not
10846s	Guardian staying away it's literally a
10847s	kite Guardian that's trying to run away
10849s	it's something very weird and unique and
10851s	honestly biggest respect for tusas for
10852s	just again making a weird but but unique
10855s	but good comp I think this is a really
10856s	strong comp as well I mean it could it
10858s	could have a bit of problems with some
10859s	other comps Oh yeah double arbitrator
10861s	would really be a real painful day but
10862s	you got the damps as well this a very e
10864s	heavy um Lucen broads just gets
10867s	annihilated Off the Grid Lucien and H
10869s	Fleet is she still holding on really far
10871s	away everybody he left the post code
10874s	he's 105 km from from the I don't think
10877s	he particular going anywhere
10878s	particularly as well he's just kind of
10879s	running he's not even going for the
10881s	boundary he's he's going around the edge
10882s	going towards the beacon maybe he's
10885s	going around the edge right now there
10886s	switching to Lily in s good fights and
10888s	local the H fleu does die he did get
10890s	shot that that that range hold on a
10892s	minute that is a lot of range I mean
10895s	they've definitely got um uh some
10897s	guidance in the mid just to amplify the
10900s	range um so they can reproject out like
10903s	that almost feels like Cruise range from
10904s	that distance that looked about like 80
10906s	to 100K but I'm probably exaggerating
10908s	that's insane I think that's some good
10910s	banter in local right now I came here to
10912s	rage crit cancel sub
10915s	accomplish love it a good fight it's
10917s	good it's all good bantering exctly yeah
10919s	and it was a very good fight from both
10920s	team like the rage quit they did kind of
10922s	just get get fully controlled I don't
10924s	know how much most teams could really
10926s	react to this I think a lot of teams
10927s	would kind of get stuck this is the
10928s	whole thing you get stuck chasing the
10929s	kaers right I think Rage Quit up against
10932s	war on this one this comp was kind of
10934s	designed to beat this really you're
10936s	going to bring a rush are you well
10937s	perfect we've got the exact tools
10938s	required got webs and damps you're going
10940s	to shoot anything plus a little purifier
10941s	again as well don't forget the purifier
10943s	on tuska's team glassie in the purifier
10945s	are we going to come back to the old
10946s	days where there was a bommer sprinkled
10948s	in every comp yeah definitely I mean
10949s	obviously MVP goes to vodly a stressful
10952s	role for him to keep everything away but
10955s	overall a fantastic pting from tuskers
10957s	he's now webbing his own team he's he's
10960s	webbing his own team in he's so happy
10962s	he's so good he's getting confused now
10965s	he's in the zone so much he just I need
10966s	web ships that are moving maybe he's
10969s	maybe he's multiboxing the guy he's
10970s	lucky for his friends he's probably just
10972s	you know a debug uh still holding on and
10976s	VOD now axing his
10978s	ins and then um yeah that's I just love
10982s	watching like a little bit of
10983s	shenanigans what about your friends
10986s	what's the sedid doing is he uh he's
10988s	dying to has a lot of drones by the way
10990s	they never went for a single rep drone
10991s	by looks of it at least not many they
10992s	went almost full DPS drones and the slep
10995s	N going into into structure uh f
10998s	fantastic play by tuskers and I think
11000s	we're going to go straight back to the
11001s	desk I believe
11005s	yes tuskers Co there taking the victory
11009s	uh in that exciting matchup a classic
11011s	match uh mimar rush we don't see that
11013s	very often uh unfortunately it did not
11015s	rush hard enough in this particular
11016s	instance and H they dropped down into
11018s	the lower bracket we're going to go on a
11021s	short break uh for about half an hour or
11023s	so um and in the meantime we have an
11025s	awesome INF Focus video uh with ccpb CCP
11029s	noad and CCP nickon we'll leave you with
11031s	that and we'll see you in about 30
11037s	minutes hello everyone and welcome to
11039s	the stream I'm ccbb and I'm joined by
11041s	two fantastic senior game designers
11043s	first of all CCP Nikon welcome hello and
11047s	we also have CCP Nomad welcome hello
11050s	this is the first out of two segments
11052s	we're going to do for the Revenant
11054s	expansion which is coming on the 12th of
11056s	November we showing this actually this
11058s	is a pre-recorded segment we decided to
11060s	do and show in the at break today should
11063s	be Sunday when you're seeing this uh the
11066s	thing that we're going to talk about is
11068s	the uh Stronger goals and projects uh
11071s	that came out we had a Blog come out
11073s	earlier this week we also had a video
11075s	with both of you featuring in it and
11077s	we're also going to talk about the
11078s	updates coming to Skinner and we're
11080s	going to dive into the the exact uh
11082s	parts of that we have expanded feature
11085s	parameters is one of them I know that's
11087s	one of your is that correct yeah
11090s	expanded project
11091s	parameters yeah it is definitely my my
11095s	favorite because it allows
11098s	creating much more complex projects or
11101s	manifesting much more complex
11103s	Corporation goals and showing them to to
11106s	the members and allowing them to
11108s	contribute perfect we'll dive it in just
11110s	a second but we also have project
11112s	deadlines something that's been
11114s	requested to be able to actually put an
11116s	end to a project and not to RN it
11119s	indefinitely we also have participation
11121s	limit so uh explain to us what that is
11126s	so participation limit allows the
11128s	project Creator to set uh a limit on how
11133s	much an individual can contribute to a
11136s	project so for example a project is to
11140s	bring 10 Carles but the limit is two
11144s	Carles per member so each member in the
11147s	Corp can can bring only up to two Carles
11150s	and those will be counted as
11152s	contributions this allows essentially to
11155s	spread out the participation among more
11157s	more members allowing more members to
11159s	participate in the projects so if in
11162s	your Corp you have someone who just does
11166s	a lot uh in the corporation and brings
11169s	all the stuff usually person like that
11172s	would just block other people from
11173s	contributing so it's to basically stop
11176s	someone from just hogging all of the uh
11178s	the core projects and just doing them
11180s	all before the rest can actually start
11181s	digging at it as well correct yeah
11184s	that's correct of course for some
11185s	projects it is beneficial to have people
11187s	like that because you you just want the
11189s	project itself to be completed and and
11191s	that's the goal but in other instances
11193s	you want actually engagement from your
11196s	members and you want that engagement to
11197s	be across all members so in that case
11200s	that particular feature is very useful
11203s	also if you want to incentivize them
11204s	with something really valuable maybe you
11206s	don't want one person taking all the
11208s	rewards makes a lot of sense and then we
11211s	also have ship insurance which is an
11213s	improvement on the existing feature
11215s	which we called ship loss which came
11217s	with Equinox is that correct that is
11220s	correct so ship loss was just following
11224s	the pattern or the framework of cor
11227s	projects that we established so far so
11229s	it was pretty Limited in functionality
11232s	as in it required the corporation to
11235s	create multiple projects one per each
11238s	ship type that the corporation would
11240s	want to compensate for and just assign
11244s	uh fixed isk value um as a reward for
11249s	contributing in quotes to that
11251s	project um this time
11254s	around uh we are releasing ship
11256s	insurance which is a dynamic
11260s	contribution method what it
11261s	means is that every time I lose a ship
11267s	for example and I'm a member of a Corp
11270s	that has this project running then that
11272s	project evaluates the kill mail that I
11275s	received or particularly the the value
11279s	of the loss which includes the ship and
11281s	the cargo and the fitting so the value
11283s	of the loss in es becomes my quote
11287s	contribution to the project so this is
11289s	the
11290s	amount that I will get compensated for
11293s	so this is automatic in this case and
11295s	allows one project to handle multiple
11298s	types of ships and multiple types of
11300s	feedings like multiple variations of the
11303s	ships in the doctrine because each loss
11306s	is evaluated individually and
11309s	automatically at the same time it allows
11312s	the project Creator to set up the ratio
11316s	at which the loss is uh covered so for
11320s	example I can set it to 100% so the
11323s	compensation will be exactly the amount
11325s	displayed on the Kil mail as the value
11327s	of the loss but I can set it also to 50%
11330s	or
11331s	150% if I want to pay less or more per
11334s	loss depending of on what the fitting
11337s	might be or what my intentions are
11340s	essentially so project deadlines uh the
11343s	name um itself should be
11348s	self-explanatory but also it sounds
11350s	quite dystopian right like we're
11352s	bringing like corporate deadlines into
11354s	Eve um so what it does is essentially
11358s	enables you the project Creator to to
11361s	create an end date for a project at
11363s	which it will just automatically expire
11366s	as simple as that before you had to
11370s	manually tend to to your project to
11373s	cancel the ones that you don't want to
11374s	be running anymore before they got
11376s	completed in this case you can set the
11380s	end date in advance so for example if we
11383s	go with deliver item project we want
11385s	some item delivered let that rifter as
11388s	per usual uh we can select the
11392s	destination and the number of items to
11394s	be delivered okay so this is like my
11396s	test server is not the
11398s	fastest
11400s	um we want like 28 rifters at we can set
11404s	and
11405s	date um we have few presets that are
11409s	just handy so I want this project to be
11412s	running for one month for example and
11414s	this uh is adjusted to that date I can
11418s	change it further I can set like
11420s	specific day of the month or even an
11422s	hour in the day it will confirm the
11425s	actual duration here so 30 days 23 hours
11428s	57
11430s	minutes if I this seems really really
11433s	useful so since uh aquinox my
11436s	interaction with Corp goals like this
11438s	has been um magmatic gas and that's
11441s	something that I know the person who was
11443s	tending to to getting Outsourcing the
11446s	the you know getting of a bunch of
11447s	magmatic gas you had to tend to it every
11449s	day every week because the prices were
11452s	fluctuating so much with something like
11454s	this you could say I will pay this for
11456s	magmatic gas for 4 days yeah and then
11459s	I'll re-evaluate see if the market has
11461s	changed if I'm underpaying overpaying it
11464s	seems really really useful yeah exactly
11467s	and then the project expires and you can
11469s	easily just write uh just clone it from
11472s	from this menu right after it expires
11474s	you can find it in history and just
11476s	clone the project again and it will have
11479s	the same preset for days which you can
11482s	change but you don't have to if you want
11483s	to do this every 4 days for
11485s	example it sounds very useful um looking
11490s	at the uh participation limit I saw that
11492s	was a ticker there above the end dat one
11495s	is that the one where you you select how
11497s	often you can contribute to it uh it's
11500s	not necessarily how often but it is how
11502s	much one Corp member can provide to this
11506s	particular project so if we have if the
11510s	whole project needs 28 rifters for
11513s	example and I limit this to five rifters
11517s	per member so each individual can bring
11519s	only up to five for the total amount of
11522s	up to 28 then it tells me I need at
11525s	least six at least six members in my
11528s	Corp to be contributing to this project
11530s	fully for the project to be completed
11533s	like if there's less people than that
11535s	contributing then the project can never
11537s	be completed because of this limit so
11539s	this is useful to know like I can know
11542s	how many people in my cor can actually
11545s	um provide some input to this project so
11547s	this is how I can set this uh limit for
11551s	it to be realistic right that's really
11555s	cool um ship insurance I know it kind of
11559s	ties into uh the expanded feature as
11561s	well but let's talk about ship insurance
11563s	and how that works so we cannot show
11566s	ship insurance yet it's still in
11568s	production okay so it's not ready for
11572s	all
11573s	yeah um but how would
11578s	con so as described before it every time
11582s	someone loses a ship in the in the
11584s	corporation it just takes the kill mail
11587s	is value of the ship and assigns that as
11590s	a compensation so it's fully automated
11593s	and covers all types of ships of course
11597s	uh
11598s	with the limitations of which ships you
11600s	have added but maybe let's talk about
11603s	expanded project parameters and how that
11606s	can play
11608s	with cheap insurance in the future so
11611s	expanded project parameters
11614s	is like
11616s	today let
11618s	me take this project for
11620s	example so today you can only specify
11624s	one value per each parameter in a
11626s	project so for example this project
11628s	destroy capsulier ship which is
11630s	essentially just kill another capsulier
11633s	um today you can input here only one
11637s	name be that name of a capsulier or a
11639s	corporation or an alliance or a faction
11642s	if you are targeting uh FW
11645s	militia but after November you will be
11648s	able to include multiple names so for
11650s	example
11652s	um I want to Target like minm Republic
11656s	militia and galente militia at the same
11658s	time um and I can also Target a
11662s	particular Corp right like this one I
11665s	can Target a particular
11667s	character so I can add up to 10 values
11670s	per like in this field and those are the
11675s	relationship between the values is
11678s	or as in it can be the target can be
11682s	from minmal Republic or gal Federation
11684s	or from this Corp or this particular
11686s	character so this is very powerful way
11688s	to to set up projects that that are
11690s	quite complex and I can do that not only
11693s	in this field capsuleers or
11694s	organizations but I can do this in for
11696s	ship types so for example which ship
11698s	types we want to Target of course we
11701s	don't like rifters so we target
11704s	these but I can also Target groups of
11709s	ships like all
11713s	battleships so it's it's essentially
11715s	taking what was one
11717s	um value per parameter for these these
11720s	goals and expanding it to just multi-
11723s	parameters per multivalue per parameter
11727s	much much more complex goals than you
11729s	could do uh with the feature before
11732s	exactly and the same goes for
11735s	locations does work with with every
11737s	project that currently exists no we are
11740s	adding this functionality the expanded
11743s	project parameters functionality
11744s	specifically to four existing
11747s	contribution
11748s	methods which is destroy capsu ships uh
11752s	damage capsuleer earn loyalty points and
11756s	mine
11757s	materials so these four contribution
11760s	methods will get this treatment on the
11762s	release day
11764s	and over time we'll be adding it to all
11767s	contribution
11768s	methods awesome so you could have it
11770s	like earn this LP or this LP or this LP
11773s	and then of course you could be taxing
11775s	that as the as the Corp owner
11777s	precisely yes uh just last thing about
11780s	the locations uh this field now will
11783s	support not only solar systems but also
11787s	constellations and regions so that's new
11791s	and that should be very useful for some
11793s	project
11794s	types interesting you could be gank all
11798s	haulers
11799s	in this region in HEC type of thing yeah
11803s	and then here's your free Catalyst back
11807s	nice wink yes wink wink indeed y um
11812s	those are the four different features
11813s	that are coming this is really taking
11816s	what uh I mean core projects I know you
11819s	you added more things or you guys added
11820s	more things to them in the aquanex
11822s	expansion which was being built on the
11824s	the Havoc editions before that this is
11827s	now now becoming a more and more robust
11830s	version of Corp go every time um how
11834s	much how much further do you think we're
11835s	going to build this feature
11839s	uh yes that's the
11843s	answer like you can still see there are
11845s	limits to it and we want to expand it
11848s	because our
11849s	aim is for organizations to use it
11854s	to to keep their members engaged um
11860s	essentially like we have some uh login
11863s	rewards for example incentivizing
11865s	players to login to to take their reward
11868s	and hopefully stay in the game for
11870s	longer and engage with it this has
11873s	similar aim as in every time I log in
11878s	there's stuff for me to do as a Corp
11880s	member there's a mission there's
11882s	something that you know that the group
11884s	you're in needs doing and and this is
11886s	how they want to pay you to do it and it
11888s	doesn't take a person to tell you you
11890s	can just log in and see it on a list yes
11893s	like I open the Corp window and I can
11896s	see all the things that I could
11897s	contribute to so so now there's a reason
11901s	for me to to do stuff for the Corp and
11904s	get paid for it but also to feel
11906s	valuable for the organization right
11908s	because the the managers can see who
11912s	contributes to projects and to what
11914s	extent and they may offer some extras
11916s	for it of course this is not uh part of
11919s	the the system yet they they will do it
11921s	on on their own but in the future why
11923s	not why why we shouldn't allow like
11926s	corporations to give automatically
11928s	medals for example for participation or
11930s	some extra rewards so we have a lot of
11933s	things on our list uh wish list when it
11937s	comes to this feature and how we want to
11939s	expand it but of course reality uh will
11942s	dictate what we'll do next I think it's
11945s	awesome what you built with it so far
11947s	and I mean expanding the ship loss into
11949s	ship insurance this is like you said
11951s	going to include the the fit of the ship
11954s	even the the modules in the cargo and
11956s	you can decide to pay higher for
11959s	logistic ships that are being lost than
11961s	Mainline DPS ships so you could be
11963s	paying like 150 and and
11965s	incentivizing that you're paying them
11967s	150% of the the lodgy ship's worth
11969s	because you need more lodgy pilots it's
11972s	things like that right yeah yeah of
11974s	course if you put it too high then um
11977s	you may make it so that it's just
11980s	unreasonable to fly loogi rather than
11983s	just lose them in the first minute and
11986s	then fly another one right because just
11988s	making money be careful yeah but it does
11991s	it with a a trusting group it opens up
11994s	like the automating of
11996s	srping you know you could have have
11999s	highly you know Doctrine ships with
12001s	things in cargo that they need refits or
12003s	you know other things and this would
12006s	cover all of that in certain
12008s	scenarios Y and most importantly it's
12012s	just enough to have one project and it
12014s	will proportionately cover the loss to
12017s	what the loss amount was right rather
12020s	than having to create multiple projects
12023s	one per each ship type so this this is
12027s	pretty powerful it is it's a little
12029s	scary too as an FC if if everyone starts
12031s	looting the grid and then dying you're
12033s	like oh
12034s	no everyone you see real time how the
12037s	Corp wallet shrinks yeah
12040s	yeah I think this is fantastic uh I I
12043s	think this has really gotten to a point
12045s	where I I know people have been using
12047s	this a bunch in the last year I know
12049s	they started using it more after aquinox
12051s	and the kind of feedback we were getting
12053s	from players it seems to be building on
12055s	those things they were asking for
12056s	multiple parameters uh they were asking
12058s	for a timed Corp goal so they wouldn't
12060s	have to manually do all the work of
12063s	turning them off and making new ones
12065s	like that this is becoming a really cool
12067s	feature yes like all all the additions
12071s	that we are making um we're getting them
12074s	mostly from player feedback but at the
12076s	same time time it just matches what we
12078s	wanted to do anyway so it it's just
12080s	beautiful to to provide the features
12082s	that we wanted to to do but also that we
12085s	hear from from the players from you uh
12087s	of what you want so all the expanded
12091s	project parameters or like the limit per
12093s	contributor specifically this was asked
12095s	by CSM but also I saw it on Reddit
12098s	similar with end date like you want this
12102s	stuff there you go it's
12105s	fantastic uh thank you very much I'm
12108s	going to hop over to CP Nikon now we're
12109s	going to look at the updates coming to
12111s	the uh the Skinner but if you see
12113s	anything feel free to chime in as
12116s	well thank you so CCP neon let's
12119s	actually talk about Skinner now and
12121s	let's talk about where that's going uh
12123s	with the the update that's coming yeah
12126s	so first of all we have targeted
12129s	listings which is at the very top of my
12131s	list here yeah it's the probably the
12133s	most requested feature is that correct
12136s	uh Here Am my might be easier for me to
12137s	just show you as well absolutely if I go
12140s	into my collection I have a skin here
12143s	that uh I can sell that by the way but
12147s	yeah thank you uh in the availability um
12150s	you can choose to make it public which
12153s	is available for everyone and then it
12155s	just goes on the on the Paragon Hub
12157s	correct like it like it has been since
12159s	Equinox exactly exactly um and then you
12163s	could also select it just for your
12165s	corporation so anyone in your
12167s	corporation can then buy it and it's
12169s	locked to only your corporation so no
12172s	one else can see it um you can also do
12175s	the same with uh your alliance uh
12178s	through the my alliance um option and
12182s	same thing locked only to your alliance
12184s	and anyone in your alliance can purchase
12186s	it at that point or you can put in
12189s	specific and you can type in anything
12191s	that you want um
12195s	so like and if it searches
12200s	oh lady name there we go yeah lady name
12203s	so I could sell it directly to that
12205s	person and no one else would be able to
12207s	buy it at that point um so it's very
12210s	cool very uh powerful in that sense so
12214s	corporations will be able to distribute
12217s	skins so everyone can fly the same
12219s	colors uh if you're making skins as a as
12222s	a new job um for your character you can
12225s	sell them directly to someone if you've
12228s	worked out a deal with them um and you
12230s	can list it for any price that you want
12234s	um one of the the big things though is
12236s	if you're selling for your corporation
12239s	uh to your corporation or to your
12241s	alliance and you're a brand
12243s	manager um if you have the brand manager
12245s	role uh when you sell it uh you won't
12248s	get dinged with any uh Hub vendor fees
12251s	or Hub listing fees um so you're able to
12255s	to put certain people in charge of being
12257s	the brand manager of the the Corp yes
12260s	and those can then make skins just like
12262s	we've been doing since aquinox Y and
12265s	then they can list those skins only to
12267s	their Corp and charge them there's no
12271s	Market fees nothing like that if they
12273s	want to sell it for for for zero isk
12276s	hypothetically yep they they could do
12278s	that uh so they can just like they can
12280s	sell it for free if they want there's no
12283s	fees no no uh taxes or any anything like
12287s	that um the way that uh that kind of
12292s	works the way that we had to even it out
12294s	is there will be a small evermark charge
12297s	now and that is based on the tiar of the
12299s	skin that's being sold for those who
12301s	don't remember the tears uh the the more
12304s	complex a skin gets the higher in tier
12306s	it goes so if it only like a couple of
12308s	colors then it would be a lower tier
12310s	like you can see the number above there
12312s	yeah and I remember when we were playing
12313s	around with this Tool uh before June it
12316s	did it you know it wasn't too hard to
12318s	make a super cool looking skin at tier 3
12321s	four five we didn't have to go all the
12323s	way to the max to make them look cool
12325s	and honestly most of the skins that I've
12327s	made have just been couple of googly
12328s	eyes and you know something like that
12331s	you could easily distribute to your
12332s	entire group if you wanted to oh for
12334s	sure so uh I have a couple listings here
12338s	um when you're selling to your
12339s	corporation or Alliance uh when you go
12342s	into the Paragon Hub you'll see a couple
12344s	new sections there's uh a SE just for
12347s	Corporation skins and a section just for
12349s	Alliance skins and then also a section
12352s	for skins that are targeted directly at
12354s	you um when it's from a brand manager
12358s	you'll have a different colored
12360s	background in the card here uh and when
12363s	you hover over it it will tell you how
12364s	many ever marks you're going to be
12366s	charged uh when you purchase that skin
12369s	uh whereas if it's just from anyone else
12372s	uh it won't have that um so that's one
12375s	way you can tell if it's branded skin is
12378s	what we're calling it um or not will it
12380s	always cost Ever marks on top if you're
12382s	if you're selling it to your Corp yes
12384s	you're charging for it yes um so that uh
12388s	that's to help counteract the the zero
12390s	taxes and zero fees yeah um but yeah
12394s	like like I said uh brand managers can
12396s	sell it for zero so uh they can make it
12401s	extremely easy for everyone um the way
12405s	that the ever marks are balanced bed is
12407s	we looked at uh how many ever marks you
12410s	can claim a day from doing Paragon
12413s	missions uh and then looked at what the
12415s	most popular tier skin is and we kind of
12419s	uh equalized it that way and then the
12421s	lowest amount of error marks that you
12423s	can make a day or for like a tier one
12425s	skin and the absolute maximum you can
12427s	make a day is for tier 20 and then it
12430s	just kind of distributed uh in between
12432s	that so yeah the T list has actually
12435s	gone up to 20 now and I would assume
12437s	that's because we're adding another
12439s	functionality which is second pattern
12442s	slot yeah so the the secondary pattern
12445s	slot is something that uh we've played
12447s	around with a lot um here in the studio
12451s	uh we also have 45 new patterns coming
12454s	out which is a huge amount so uh they'll
12457s	be all over in loot tables um throughout
12460s	new Eden as well so you can get those um
12463s	but yeah so you can put in one pattern
12466s	and then you can select a second pattern
12468s	they can each have uh a different Nano
12471s	cating on there uh you can move them
12474s	around
12475s	separately uh you can blend them
12477s	together with a bunch of different blend
12479s	modes um yeah we've just been we've been
12483s	playing with this non-stop in the in the
12486s	team and everyone just has a blast with
12489s	it you also explained it really well in
12490s	the video that came out on Friday you
12492s	can like subract them from each other
12494s	you can Nest them in each other so you
12495s	could have like a pattern within a
12497s	pattern all kinds of really cool things
12499s	with it yeah you can mask them um it's
12503s	it's really it's kind of tough to
12506s	explain but once you actually get in
12509s	there and start playing around with it
12511s	uh the names of them really make sense
12514s	um yeah we also added uh another cool
12518s	little feature uh which is
12521s	randomize um see yeah where you can
12525s	randomize
12526s	your skin and uh it's just a really good
12530s	starting point for for creating your own
12532s	skin and uh yeah will it fill out every
12535s	slot when you randomize it'll fill both
12537s	patterns and all colors yeah so it will
12540s	fill out everything um and randomize the
12543s	position of the patterns all that and uh
12546s	it does take into account whether or not
12548s	you have the the tick box to show only
12551s	owned so if you randomize with stuff
12553s	that only you own it will only use those
12556s	or if you want to see what is possible
12559s	uh just tick that off and it will show
12561s	absolutely everything that's really cool
12563s	this is
12565s	great for someone like me who has zero
12567s	artistic skills just a random button is
12570s	like just random yeah oh I think it's
12574s	like you said a really good way to to
12576s	have a starting point as well for a skin
12577s	if you're completely creatively blocked
12580s	and you're like I need to make something
12581s	cool but I don't know where to start
12583s	it's too much choice in some way you can
12586s	hit that random button until you see
12587s	something you really like and then maybe
12589s	change that line to Gold that thing to
12591s	White and make it kind of tweak it from
12594s	from that that first step yeah yeah
12597s	exactly um and then to uh to help out
12600s	everyone uh for the first two weeks of
12603s	the expansion we're actually lowering
12605s	down the sequencing time um so everyone
12608s	can get new skins quicker as well um so
12612s	I believe we're taking 50% off of the
12615s	time that it takes to normally sequence
12617s	the skin for the first two weeks of the
12619s	expansion so trying trying to play
12622s	around with with some things make it a
12623s	bit easier to people uh to get into the
12626s	Skinner and play around and get new
12628s	skins in the game I think uh besides
12631s	adding a a second pattern the the
12633s	biggest ticket thing here is the direct
12636s	listing and being able to yeah send your
12639s	alt or friend or you know a Corp mate or
12642s	someone like just this hey I made this
12644s	for you and it costs zero or here I'm
12647s	you know my entire cor I want them all
12649s	to be using this this skin and this is
12652s	finally going to actually enable it
12654s	where they you know it could be done in
12655s	a in a proper manner yeah yeah it's a
12659s	it's huge it's one of the most requested
12662s	features that we've had ever since
12663s	Skinner came out so I have this vision
12666s	of a future cinematic shot of some big
12669s	big big battle with like, 1500 2,000
12672s	people and you can clearly see like oh
12675s	there go the goo
12676s	and there are the brave guys and you can
12679s	just like without any overview you can
12681s	just tell exactly who's where I think
12684s	yeah like genuinely I think the the
12686s	updates coming to to Revenant with you
12689s	know Skinner are GNA get us closer to
12691s	that reality yeah yeah hopefully I mean
12694s	it would be awesome just see huge Fleet
12696s	fights with everyone like just in
12698s	matching skins he can really easily tell
12701s	who's who's who and yeah I think it'll
12704s	be a lot of fun and like you said a
12707s	marks I think a lot of people have a
12708s	bunch of that saved up anyway so I think
12711s	we might get there quicker than than
12713s	expected actually but you still have to
12715s	on note I just want to make one note uh
12719s	there's another feature that we
12721s	announced in the block uh a couple days
12724s	ago that will be coming after the
12726s	expansion which will allow completing
12728s	daily goals with e marks so don't spend
12732s	all of them on SK don't spend them all
12735s	yeah you have to you have to budget
12737s	between our two features for sure ever
12740s	marks went from being something where
12741s	people like why do I have this to like
12742s	stons this is the best thing I need more
12745s	yeah um but honestly this is both of
12748s	these things the the improvements to
12749s	goals that are coming and the
12751s	improvements here to Skinner the tool of
12753s	course is fantastic and making skins is
12755s	super it's it's fun and it's like super
12759s	unique what you can actually make now
12761s	the actual way of of getting them to the
12763s	people you want is far more real than it
12766s	was before this is fantastic yeah and
12769s	and something that we want to continue
12771s	um improving upon adding new features in
12774s	all that fun stuff so uh hopefully
12777s	hopefully we can keep doing
12779s	that 100% I think uh since we are doing
12783s	this a pre-recorded segment and uh the
12785s	alliance tournament needs to go on I
12787s	think this is going to cut our time
12789s	basically short but we managed to cover
12791s	most of what we wanted to do you think
12792s	we missed anything from either one of
12794s	you think we got everything on on the
12798s	Skinner side of
12800s	things yeah I think we got everything at
12803s	least from the things that are
12804s	officially announced so far yeah um yeah
12808s	we covered that we also had a a Blog go
12811s	out last week or this week uh and we had
12815s	a video with both of you uh but but I
12817s	wanted to dive into this this is
12818s	something that we've started doing for
12820s	for all the expansions and it's nice to
12821s	see you guys play around with the Tes as
12824s	well um but thank you both for your
12827s	time believe the next thing is up is uh
12831s	is match 30 in the alliance tournament
12834s	uh good luck to whoever is competing and
12836s	we'll see you guys one week from now uh
12839s	next Sunday I'm going to be interviewing
12841s	CCB trash Panda and we're going to go
12843s	over the mercenary dance the new
12845s	deathless ships and the all new damage
12848s	overtime weapon system that's coming
12850s	we'll see you then bye-bye
12858s	welcome back to Alliance tournament 20 I
12860s	am still and will continue to be CB
12862s	overload joined once again by what chat
12864s	has decided his fart um uh we are super
12867s	excited to have you back we have more
12869s	matches to go today bunch more uh in the
12871s	winners bracket before we head down to
12872s	the eliminate elimination matches once
12875s	again and see some more teams go home
12877s	this next match let's take a quick look
12878s	at the band it's going to be between
12880s	deteriorated and postp Clarity so
12883s	deteriorated choosing to Banner the onos
12885s	the black bird the pontif effect and the
12887s	Mago meanwhile postp pod Clarity Bing
12890s	out the Loki the Armageddon the abadin
12892s	and the Nighthawk Bart what do you think
12893s	about these band yeah I'm I'm a big fan
12896s	you know loky Nighthawk band excellent
12898s	you know it gets rid of the very
12899s	powerful [ __ ] thrush uh
12903s	I Blackbird I don't have we seen a
12905s	blackbird yet this I don't think we've
12907s	seen one I don't think we've seen but
12908s	we've seen it banned we've seen it
12909s	banned two or three times we haven't
12911s	seen one yet nobody's really flown uh
12913s	obviously we saw the Widow ECM setup but
12915s	no one's really one out yet and I I
12917s	would love to see them I personally love
12918s	Blackbird matches and I love talking
12919s	about Blackbird matches I know people I
12922s	I feel like twitch chat dislikes
12924s	Blackbeard matches and also just likees
12926s	talking about Blackbeard matches but uh
12927s	I'd love to see one I won't happen here
12929s	strange band maybe they know something
12931s	that we don't and they're like oh these
12932s	guys are ECM players but yeah uh blackb
12934s	band's interesting it feels kind of
12936s	wasted with the current meta but maybe
12937s	again they could know something we don't
12939s	yeah I mean this this says to me that um
12942s	maybe like in their practice they found
12944s	something that they really don't like
12945s	with the Blackbird
12946s	uh I mean most people who get jammed uh
12948s	don't particularly enjoy the experience
12950s	it's exceptionally frustrating in a
12952s	tournament situation I mean uh what is
12955s	the uh previous gista uh Flagship or uh
12959s	at ship says uh some Pilots complain
12962s	that ECM is unfair Jam those ones first
12966s	and shoot them last exactly that's
12967s	exactly what you need to do all right so
12969s	both teams are fing their Flagship
12970s	Armageddon Navy issues in this match so
12972s	let's head over to the arena for
12973s	deteriorated versus postp pod clarity
12978s	hello I am moderator joined by the
12981s	wonderful CCP Aurora for this next match
12983s	of deteriorated in postp pod Clarity
12986s	both teams electing to bring their
12987s	Flagship Navy Armageddon so deteriorated
12990s	going with a bit of a uh heavy uh
12993s	missile comp in the Rapids and postp pod
12995s	Clarity electing for a combination of
12997s	control with the arbitrators and then a
12999s	bit of a drone comp yes um the they have
13002s	quite these are quite varied ships and
13004s	they're not quite the same uh strong uh
13007s	like triple of of some ship that we were
13009s	seeing before we're seeing uh and with
13012s	the m to start we've got links going out
13016s	um sorry go ahead yeah so we're seeing
13020s	that both sides again are going for the
13022s	rapid heavy uh missile and the
13024s	arbitrators are already doing what they
13026s	do best and they are tracking disrupting
13027s	the Navy Armageddon wanting to make sure
13029s	that that incoming damage uh is
13031s	mitigated significantly meanwhile the
13033s	purifier or rather the mest woods damp
13036s	ing one of the arbitrators trying to
13037s	mitigate that but right now uh we see
13039s	that the PRS of the zarm that are going
13041s	on to the Confessor uh that's been
13043s	something that's been pretty typical
13045s	we've seen that um the arms are wanting
13047s	to pre-lock kind of these weaker ships
13049s	on the support side just not trying to
13051s	get one tapped by you know those rapid
13053s	Heavies from a fleet typhoon or navy
13054s	gedon yep it looks like deteriorated
13056s	might be trying to pull those uh uh reps
13059s	off of the Confessor maybe to try and
13061s	open up that Target by primarying the
13062s	Navy Armageddon uh so that zarm might
13064s	need to move over and start SP on him if
13066s	they don't decide to change uh targets
13068s	but this is a fairly slow match off the
13070s	start here we have those arbitrators
13071s	applying uh guns disruption to the heavy
13074s	battleships on the deteriorated side
13076s	both sides just trying to find a good
13078s	position here to open up see if they can
13080s	find something weak and poke it down so
13082s	speaking of positioning right now we see
13084s	that deteriorated has gathered on one of
13085s	the micro jump drive beacons meanwhile
13087s	postp pod Clarity is full in Chase with
13089s	the Confessor of Vex being in the lead
13092s	meanwhile supported by uh the EOS and
13095s	the vexer so just zooming on these uh
13098s	you know red battleships in a minute
13100s	we're going to see they're starting to
13102s	align themselves looking to position off
13104s	that micro jump drive Beacon and in a
13106s	moment here I think they're going to go
13107s	for the spool try to pick off something
13109s	in the backline meanwhile the vexer is
13111s	very much trying to close Chase making
13114s	you know the most of an opportunity to
13115s	try to scram anything and right now we
13117s	are seeing a full micro jump drive
13118s	Activation so in the backline we're
13120s	going to see jumps in a second and the
13122s	vexer not quite getting anything just
13124s	yet yeah they've just jumped over the
13127s	other the other team so this is actually
13129s	a really quite nice positioning the uh
13131s	postp Clarity team was trying to push up
13133s	that uh that screen in order to kind of
13135s	control the positioning fight H however
13137s	they've just maneuvered off to the side
13139s	only that mollus and Nathalia are left
13141s	behind however leaving one of their
13143s	their logistic ships uh on the other
13146s	side might be a bit of a crippling play
13148s	it looks like he's about to get tackled
13149s	by that V yeah so this tholly of parot
13152s	unfortunately made a pretty significant
13153s	misplay and they were not in position to
13155s	take the jump drive so we already see
13157s	NES webs par is going to get snapped and
13159s	what this does is it's going to force
13160s	deteriorated to really heavy to commit
13162s	they are on another micro jump drive
13164s	Beacon and they're going to have to go
13165s	after his arm or something because once
13166s	you lose athalia it means your deacons
13169s	you know shortly to follow the Thalia
13170s	does drop deteriorated is now on the
13172s	clock they must commit onto something or
13174s	they're just going to lose in a Tre
13176s	without any sort of lodgy support yep
13178s	first blood is that Thalia goes down um
13181s	we can see the the mollus has managed to
13183s	successfully run away trying to regroup
13185s	with a for another micro jump drive
13187s	Beacon play here and speaking of micro
13189s	jump drive Beacon plays the zarm zad has
13191s	been uh looking like it's about to get
13193s	caught by this bifrost it is heavy
13195s	webbed the Armageddon Navy issue of Zak
13198s	is now right in position to deal with um
13202s	that uh capture that the bifrost has
13204s	been able to make the zarm that is
13205s	taking a significant amount of damage
13207s	the entirety of deteriorated has
13209s	committed onto the zarm and if they're
13211s	able to get it yeah you lost your Thalia
13213s	but trading a zarm for athalia I'll make
13214s	that every single day absolutely that
13217s	was an excellent uh we we've saw we saw
13219s	them use these uh micro jump drive plays
13221s	in their first match uh they're using
13223s	them to great effect again this is
13225s	another double micro jump drive play to
13227s	get on the backline of that enemy team
13229s	uh playing around their their support
13231s	and their ability to uh outpos you uh so
13234s	it's excellent so if they can get that
13235s	zaras down which they have uh they uh
13239s	that is now an incredible trade compared
13241s	to losing that Thalia so now the
13242s	arbitrator has dropped that means that a
13244s	lot of the tracking disruption that's
13245s	harassing this Navy genon uh this Fleet
13248s	typhoon in the practice as well some of
13250s	that's going to be off the grid right
13251s	and we also see uh webs on top of the
13253s	Confessor right this confessors doing uh
13255s	their level best to harass we see a lot
13256s	of damage actually on the Deacon as a
13259s	result and once this arbitrator drops
13260s	the Confessor drops that's really the
13262s	support lynchpin right um you know you
13264s	don't want to necessarily have to send
13265s	your Navy Armageddon and EOS if your
13267s	postp pod Clarity on top of things but
13270s	yes you did Kill the Thalia Deacon but
13272s	you're losing too much here with the
13274s	double arbitrator and the Confessor soon
13275s	to follow yeah they they have lost their
13278s	their last uh logistic support ship um
13280s	and they are a little bit slow taking
13282s	down that Confessor so he manages it
13284s	looks like he's managing to hold he's
13285s	got some uh remote repair bots on him at
13287s	the moment um but it is uh probably not
13291s	going to last too much longer as he goes
13292s	into armor o the hyena down as well both
13295s	both teams are or the deteriorated team
13297s	is losing a lot of its uh low-end for
13299s	positioning control uh which might allow
13301s	postp pod Clarity to kind of pull back
13303s	and reposition once again yeah the the
13305s	hyena of Trent had been caught out by uh
13307s	DEA in the Vengeance and I mean it was a
13310s	really good capture by the Vengeance
13311s	it's very difficult usually to get on
13313s	top of the hyena but uh the Vengeance
13315s	these vexor are now trying to make plays
13316s	to deal with the bifrost the droger
13318s	right really getting rid of these
13319s	command links and making it easier for
13321s	the Navy Armageddon of Zak and
13323s	Lamborghini in the Eos punch through but
13324s	speaking of punching through you're
13326s	dealing with Flagship rapid heavy
13328s	missile launchers and NES that are just
13330s	destroying the EOS and now that the EOS
13332s	doesn't have his arm it's getting
13333s	destroyed Lamborghini Off the Grid and
13336s	deteriorated is absolutely demolishing
13338s	postp pod Clarity at this point yep all
13340s	they have left is that Navy Armageddon
13342s	to try and deal some damage but they
13343s	don't have those arbitrators to shut
13345s	down the the battleship core that
13346s	deteriorated has brought that prais Navy
13349s	Armageddon and Fleet typhoon are all
13351s	just open to just give an absolute
13353s	beating to the postp Pod Clarity team
13355s	and this is going to snowball from here
13358s	I really do like the call of the dger
13360s	from postp pod Clarity trying to get rid
13361s	of the remaining links that would be on
13363s	the side of deteriorated uh but so far I
13366s	mean the dger has had to get counter
13369s	grappled the vexer does drop and then
13371s	it's going to be a Navy Armageddon of
13374s	Zak uh against the entirety of the world
13377s	and in the main remaining four minutes
13379s	about that we've got uh the Gap in
13381s	points really uh Aurora is just too much
13383s	it's going to be nigh impossible uh for
13386s	z now that you know he's grappled he's
13388s	Ned he's painted it's going to be taking
13389s	full damage um unfortunately not any way
13393s	for postp pod Clarity to come back at
13395s	this point no uh that Navy Armageddon
13397s	does look like he's trying to live he's
13398s	trying to pull a little bit of range uh
13401s	but he is he is facing fairly outw
13403s	overwhelming numbers um they also in
13406s	addition to that Battleship core also
13408s	note that they have a purifier he's
13409s	slowly getting mitted down by some
13411s	drones at this point but that's another
13412s	like 800 DPS going onto that Battleship
13415s	fully applying at this point yeah we see
13417s	that Dria has been able to get on top of
13419s	the perier basically at zero our
13421s	cameraman and uh doing a great shot of
13424s	there um so really good credit to the
13427s	support core right the Vengeance of the
13429s	Confessor and the dger did what they
13431s	needed to um you know in any normal
13434s	match to really commit so some maturity
13436s	and depth there but unfortunately you
13438s	know without the EOS without the zarm
13440s	kind of getting picked apart getting
13441s	jumped on you know you needed your top
13444s	end to perform as well as your kind of
13445s	your low end the fleet typhoon getting
13447s	rather low uh I mean that's going to be
13449s	the flagship uh you know officer rapid
13452s	missiles is punching through the typhoon
13454s	now that he no longer has links but I
13456s	mean zck down into low armor even if the
13458s	fleet typhoon drops I think it's going
13460s	to be the end of the world for this Navy
13461s	Armageddon the Navy Armageddon is now
13463s	going into Hull that Fleet typhoon it
13466s	was looking very close but he's
13467s	repairing Shields now they're coming
13468s	back fairly steadily I think he will
13470s	live to the end of this match uh and the
13472s	Navy Armageddon is about to fall as he
13475s	goes into lwh Hall yeah the Navy
13476s	Armageddon we could see the attack bar
13478s	completely fall off he was on a rapid
13480s	reload anyway just like you were saying
13482s	and now that he's gone it's just the
13484s	Vengeance who has been grappled um in
13486s	local we're about to see some good
13488s	fights and I mean really well played by
13490s	deteriorated I mean earlier on in the
13492s	tournament yesterday we saw them bring
13494s	out a very unique and um I would say
13497s	rather impressive uh Widow composition
13500s	and really just handing it to post pod
13502s	Clarity yep absolutely this is
13504s	incredibly well played uh
13505s	congratulations to deteriorated on your
13508s	uh perfect 200 win for eliminating the
13510s	other team and we'll take it back to the
13512s	desk Clarity there are going to be
13515s	having a Moment of clarity as they've
13517s	just uh lost that match they dropped
13519s	down into the the lower bracket now so
13521s	they are down but not out that was not
13522s	elimination match they just no longer
13524s	are in the upper brackets which is where
13526s	the winners live um and because they are
13528s	not winners anymore they must be removed
13532s	uh however great matchup for
13533s	deteriorated uh they came in they played
13535s	strong um they they they do be loving
13538s	those micro jump drives uh Ali talk to
13540s	me about the the micro jump drives plays
13542s	that we have seen from this team so
13543s	deteriorated in that match the
13546s	jumped away from the oncoming post pod
13549s	Clarity team and one of the things you
13551s	might have noticed is they jumped away
13552s	from the team but their Thalia was
13554s	unfortunately left behind and the likely
13556s	reason for that is when you're making
13557s	one of those micro jump plays you really
13559s	have to commit to the jump before
13562s	everyone is 100% on the beacon and ready
13565s	you have to have your first people
13566s	activate the beacon and start spooling
13568s	because if you don't commit you will
13570s	wait too long and you will get caught
13572s	the supplies if you're running away the
13573s	supplies if you're jumping in really you
13576s	have to go on time so they committed
13578s	nine players made it the Thalia probably
13580s	clicked a couple seconds one tick too
13582s	late and uh sadly sacrificed his life
13585s	however another micro jump on top of the
13587s	zarm as sealed the deal taking away that
13589s	very important logistic ship yeah I mean
13592s	we were watching it here in the studio
13594s	and we saw all the little icons go like
13596s	Tink Tink Tink across and then one
13598s	little Talia we're like oh no oh no look
13600s	at him he's by himself and he the morus
13604s	as well the morus failed to jump but
13606s	decided to just burn straight across the
13608s	arena I was like nope I don't want to be
13609s	here wait a minute I'm fast I don't need
13611s	that stupid micro jump unit uh if you've
13614s	never seen it by the way the arena has
13615s	uh nine micro jump drive units in it
13617s	there's uh eight in a cube and then one
13619s	in the center um so you can if you're
13622s	Pro Gamers you can like Ping around the
13623s	cube uh cuz they're 100 colets away from
13625s	each other and if you're like a semi-pro
13627s	gamer you can ping off into uh nowhere
13630s	and die uh so don't don't do that but uh
13632s	there's also one in the center which is
13633s	super useful sometimes we see people
13634s	just go hang out there um and if no one
13637s	has a scram on you leave we saw a
13640s	redeemer survive in like 5% armor
13642s	yesterday I believe um because they just
13646s	sat on the center Beacon and jumped away
13648s	and then his friend tried to do the same
13649s	thing and got tackled so you know yeah
13652s	it works once and the timing on on these
13654s	micro jump plays can be uh really really
13657s	difficult to get right because you're
13658s	like dying at a certain rate and you're
13660s	like this will take me 8 seconds from I
13662s	hit this button until I am propelled
13665s	into to a new location um you're dying
13668s	at a certain rate and then you kind of
13669s	forget that there's a massive Sig Bloom
13672s	like you're like ah I can easily tank
13674s	this for at least 10 seconds that's 2
13676s	seconds of spare time and you click the
13678s	button and all of a sudden uh you start
13680s	absolutely eating [ __ ] because uh your
13683s	uh Sig just gets bloomed suddenly the
13685s	things that were kind of hitting you now
13687s	are very very much definitely hitting
13689s	you so you have to remember that when
13690s	you when you going for these mjd plays
13692s	but we do see some like fantastic use of
13694s	mjd drives uh we see uh like the varer
13697s	the other day from arrival was kind of
13700s	pinging around a little bit um and
13701s	speaking of that uh Mr M the new
13704s	alliance tournament Cruiser yes well uh
13708s	well I wanted to buy one cheap but I
13709s	guess I can also mention that the
13711s	cruiser along with being a force Recon
13713s	that gets you know Advanced tackle range
13715s	bonuses uh depending on how low your sex
13717s	status is also can fit an mjd uh so it
13721s	seems like it's going to be a bit wacky
13723s	and cool yeah I'm looking forward to
13725s	seeing uh some of those when they go out
13727s	and of course I'm mentioning that
13728s	because the teams that are playing now
13730s	every time they win they're getting more
13732s	and more and more of these ships like by
13734s	getting top 16 uh you get ships like
13737s	just straight up you don't have to get
13738s	to like top three top four anymore you
13739s	can go top 16 and you get some ships
13741s	including Alliance tournament priz
13743s	Battleship which is uh # poggers uh all
13747s	right our next match uh is going to be a
13750s	uh good one I think it's barcode versus
13753s	evasive maneuvering let us take a quick
13755s	look at the bands for this particular
13758s	match so barcode um
13761s	or are banning at the Armageddon Navy
13763s	issue the Armageddon the crucifier and
13766s	the Sentinel evasive maneuvering Banning
13769s	out the Talia and the Deacon the megas
13771s	and the pontif effects these seem like
13773s	pretty standard bands to me Mr git what
13775s	do you think yeah I mean we're seeing
13777s	the removal of the magas pontif effects
13778s	again so it's pushing people towards um
13781s	armor battle Cruisers if they want to
13782s	bring a BC core you can also uh bring
13785s	the joger we did see that earlier today
13787s	um when the maggot and P effects were
13789s	banned out it's a strong ship it still
13792s	fulfills the same role it gives you
13793s	links but it's a little bit more pricey
13796s	um so it's harder to fit into your
13798s	standing comp uh we also saw the ability
13801s	of crucifier and Sentinel band as well
13803s	um less annoying sometimes than the
13805s	arbitrator the arbitrators at least are
13807s	fairly slow so if your team is mobile
13809s	you can kind of jump in get on top of
13811s	them like we saw in the previous match
13812s	where they were able to mjd in catch the
13814s	Z kill it and then move on to the
13815s	arbitrators if they jumped in on a
13818s	crucifier or Sentinel the chances are
13820s	that that Sentinel or crucifier would be
13822s	50 km away from where they were jumping
13824s	by the time that they land because
13825s	they're so mobile they're so quick um so
13827s	by just Banning them out you don't have
13828s	to deal with the hard to hit hard to
13830s	track hard to reach um tracking
13833s	disruptors yeah I think in that last
13835s	match actually we we saw like you
13836s	mentioned some joggers um the Magus and
13839s	the pon effect were both banned out uh
13840s	so it's quite likely that that practice
13842s	was subbed in for another armagedon Navy
13844s	issue to reduce its points so they could
13846s	bring the dger as said to still bring
13848s	that armor h i I always forget about the
13851s	the dger it's a great ship it does a lot
13852s	of DPS and uh sometimes you're in an
13855s	Allied tournament match right and you
13857s	warp p and there's some small ships and
13859s	you're in your jogger and you can just
13860s	be a dger gamer you can just like fly
13861s	around just you know spool on things and
13864s	they just go poof and disappear uh it's
13866s	exceptionally fun and the other team
13868s	remembers you're there and then you get
13870s	drug or gamed so that is exactly what
13872s	happened in one of the matches we just
13873s	saw a scalpel fly across the screen and
13875s	then a drer flew across the screen as
13877s	well and then uh eventually they were
13879s	like we're going to kill this dger now
13881s	because it's just flying around but yeah
13882s	it's uh it's a fun time to be either a
13884s	drugger or an urle just going to do your
13886s	own thing yeah okay so um I think we
13888s	have a a short spokesperson video for
13891s	invasive maneuvering uh for this one so
13893s	we can head over to them and hear about
13896s	their
13898s	Alliance I'm rer kinan and I'm the
13900s	spokesperson for evasive maneuvering
13903s	we're a multinational team of Russian
13905s	speaking players from Russia Ukraine
13908s	Canada Israel Poland and Serbia we
13911s	primarily operate out a wormhole space
13914s	where we look for small gang fights
13915s	mostly flying kidi ships but once in a
13918s	blue moon we can press the siege button
13919s	at zero this is evasive maneuvering
13922s	first time in the alliance tournament
13924s	however many of us have been tournament
13926s	endures for many years playing on behalf
13928s	of dark side in the Glory Days and for
13931s	the past few years as well our team
13933s	captain is fafy waffy
13935s	for many years he has been trying to win
13937s	the alliance tournament this year is the
13939s	one we can feel it we'd like to wish the
13943s	best of luck to Odin's call and Boundary
13945s	exerts May the best team win in our
13947s	feeder group the match we're looking
13950s	forward to the most is when we get to
13952s	play against a rival hopefully in the
13954s	finals finally to any of our alliance
13957s	members who are watching the tournament
13959s	watch carefully your turn on grid is
13963s	next here we are and that was evasive
13966s	maneuvering telling us a little bit
13967s	about themselves on Tranquility now we
13969s	have about 2 minutes until this match
13970s	kicks off but during that video Al you
13972s	pointed something interesting about the
13973s	bands yeah so both teams banned almost
13976s	completely different ships than they
13978s	banned in their previous matches barcode
13980s	previously flew against goons they've
13982s	played a very safe comp that Medium gun
13984s	spam Banning out all the tracking
13986s	disruption this time they left a couple
13987s	more of their ships open evasive
13989s	maneuvering likewise safe comp they
13991s	played a competent kite did a very good
13993s	job of evading things and their bands
13995s	were completely different than their
13997s	bands in this match what does that mean
13999s	well likely it means that both teams are
14001s	going to be bringing different setups
14002s	than they brought before notably both of
14004s	these teams are very skilled teams both
14006s	of them have gone very far in Alliance
14007s	tournaments before and likely we might
14010s	actually see some good comps out of both
14012s	of them I would hope so uh it would be
14014s	very very bold questionable choice to
14016s	bring a bad comp um although J I say
14018s	that lot of teams do it anyway yeah true
14021s	just very yeah yeah very true very true
14023s	well unsafe yeah bringing Navy gons and
14026s	fls hey none of that all right let's
14030s	head over to the arena for this match
14031s	between barcode and evasive
14039s	maneuvering and we currently have uh
14041s	barcode versus evasive maneuvering
14043s	currently Landing in the arena uh
14045s	preparing for their next match uh do you
14048s	want to tell me what you see yeah so
14050s	evasive maneuvering has chosen to bring
14052s	medium gun spam and barcode has also
14054s	chosen to bring median gun gun spam so
14057s	the only real difference between uh
14059s	these compositions is that barcode has
14060s	interestingly chosen to bring the Riva
14063s	and evasive maneuvering has chosen to
14065s	bring uh an augur the reason You' go
14067s	with some of these um you know Tech 1
14070s	Logistics as opposed to bit of the tech
14072s	2 is that you know in a medium gun spam
14075s	comp you expect them to die very quickly
14076s	you're just kind of um really also
14078s	wanting to upoint your backline and
14081s	evasive maneuvering and barcode both
14083s	really warping at very safe uh ranges of
14086s	30 to 50 km we're going to see a lot of
14088s	kind of prepositioning here then battle
14090s	being joined but unfortunately the
14092s	mullus here um may not do a ton uh
14096s	except for maybe possibly damps onto the
14098s	augur but actually getting damps onto
14100s	the bruix and they started actually this
14102s	could be huge it looks like both sides
14104s	are going to go for a logi trade evasive
14106s	maneuvering having their augur being
14107s	primed immediately getting down very low
14109s	they a diva being primed uh but not
14112s	taking a ton of damage I'm actually very
14114s	very happy for my team here because I
14116s	was about to possibly be worried about
14118s	holding an l and killing the augurer
14120s	before the Riva is going to be a very
14122s	very good situation for barcode and it
14124s	looks like that Riva is holding out just
14126s	a little bit longer I take that back
14128s	this looks like it might be an even
14129s	trade as both ships are going into hole
14131s	and that Riva goes down uh that was
14133s	quite a fast kill augur follows quickly
14135s	behind it uh neither side has lodgy at
14138s	this point now it's just going to be uh
14140s	effectively a DPS race as they both try
14142s	to take out uh ke ships on the other
14144s	side side trying to figure out what's
14146s	softest what's within range and uh
14148s	overheat their guns without burning them
14150s	out so right now we've seen that the
14152s	barcode side has they've gone for the
14153s	aity of Pandy and they're also getting
14155s	some damage on the Muller uh looks like
14158s	however Pand is just having the drones
14160s	um aside to it for damage and uh barcode
14163s	has kind of given up on that as a main
14164s	primary they're really trying to commit
14166s	to uh the merer and really we're going
14169s	to see a lot of that you know going back
14170s	and forth as you get primed uh the way
14172s	that you survive in these comps is you
14174s	just run away you overheat faster than
14176s	the opponent so part of the reason that
14178s	evasive maneuvering would go for a Navy
14179s	bruix is that a Navy BRS does a lot of
14181s	damage but also as the Galen Tech Two
14183s	hole it doesn't run away very quickly
14185s	one thing to note here however is that
14187s	the uh Barco team has brought a mollus
14189s	which is applying some uh additional
14191s	power so every time one of these ships
14192s	runs away it pulls into the backline
14194s	kind of like we saw the estarte do it
14196s	actually had to stop shooting as it was
14198s	damped down lost range it wasn't able to
14200s	apply giving uh barcode just a little
14202s	bit of extra time to apply some of that
14204s	damage in between and without the aard
14206s	uh on the evasive maneuvering side does
14208s	go down yeah and critically I mean I'm
14210s	trading in Navy aard sorry a Navy Brooks
14212s	for an AAR I mean I'm going to make that
14213s	trade every single day of the week if
14215s	I'm barcode I'm very happy to be in that
14217s	position barcode now choosing to uh
14219s	primary the Navy brucks of Rico Russ and
14222s	this molus actually doing absolute work
14225s	we can see that these damps are actually
14226s	having a significant effect actually
14228s	really forcing evasive maneuvering to
14230s	hard commit right and that's going to
14232s	make it very difficult barod does lose a
14235s	mer here but when you have to hard
14236s	commit right onto these um barcode ships
14239s	and then barcode just runs away and
14241s	you're being forced to kind of swap
14242s	targets it's a very good situation but
14244s	that said I mean we're still on a nice
14246s	Edge uh barcode is having their uh
14248s	Vigilant of Sid the Kid get primaried he
14250s	is webbed down and so far the merer is
14253s	not taking a ton of damage the Navy
14255s	harbinger of Sky killer Russ is the
14257s	primary you we see an absolute cloud of
14259s	angry drones following as the aard runs
14262s	him uh down and the nav harer from Huey
14265s	and Ellis and it looks like that Navy
14267s	Harbinger is about to be traded for the
14269s	Vigilant that barode just lost however
14271s	at this point we still have the aardi
14273s	Navy prophecy and navy Harbinger that is
14275s	three battleships or battle Cruisers I'm
14277s	sorry compared to the one Absolution on
14280s	the uh evasive maneuvering side um uh
14283s	ships are taking damage all over the
14285s	place we've got a mer and Omen uh uh The
14287s	Omen has just gone down it looks like
14289s	the mer is soon to follow the mer of
14291s	beam Adon is about to follow after that
14294s	uh Absolut blood bath uh I think barod
14296s	just needs to get down these last couple
14298s	uh DPS ships and they have a lot of HP
14300s	on their side now looks like it's in
14302s	their favor yeah so I mean looking right
14304s	now at the attack and defense bars right
14307s	both teams have amount the same rough
14309s	amount of kind of buffer remaining and
14311s	barcode is applying just as much if not
14313s	slightly less HP but critically though
14316s	fafy waffy is the only remaining link
14318s	ship right barcode still has an a start
14320s	Navy prophecy Navy Harbinger and really
14323s	what that means if you're bar code is
14324s	that you know your links are going to
14326s	continue to allow you to go faster tank
14328s	Carter and now this last um Omen does
14331s	fall off for Sam Punisher Tai low has
14334s	been able to kind of get away uh Huey
14337s	Conte now being webbed down it looks by
14340s	um The Omen right of the uh side of uh
14345s	pillin 2000 so pillin might trade
14347s	himself out for naving Harbinger I'm
14349s	pretty happy to make that trade if I'm
14350s	evasive maneuvering but I mean look at
14352s	the defense bar for evasive it's
14353s	shrinking fast than uh barcodes and I'm
14357s	very happy to be a barcode uh member
14359s	evasive maneuvering an absolutely
14361s	monsterous team we were kind of afraid
14363s	of them and I know the boys are pumped
14364s	right now as Omen of pillin goes down
14367s	that's one more remaining ship the M are
14369s	getting low as well Alice will go down
14372s	but I mean a start Navy prophecy against
14374s	a baller Absolution bar code's got this
14376s	well in hand yep and we're now seeing
14378s	that Absolution start to enter half AR
14380s	uh half armor continuing to go down it
14382s	looks like that mollus which has been so
14384s	critical this match is dealing with uh
14386s	he had two drones on him which have now
14388s	fallen off so the ship that had those on
14389s	him uh is is gone so it looks like that
14392s	mollus might live in below half hole so
14395s	congratulations to Striker for being
14398s	absolute clut ship uh in this in this
14400s	match so I mean CCP Aurora used to be a
14404s	member of you know Brave newbies right
14406s	and you know you have a lot of new
14408s	players that get into the game and they
14409s	are flying things like the molus right
14412s	and sometimes you think of oh well I'm
14413s	just a new person right I'm two weeks
14415s	into the game what kind of impact can I
14417s	really have and the answer is if you're
14419s	Striker erer you just carried that match
14422s	on your back forcing evasive maneuvering
14424s	to have to get into uncomfortable you
14426s	know situations that they couldn't
14427s	really navigate and barcode just being
14429s	able to not be damped uh was able to
14432s	kind of outmaneuver out position and
14434s	they have made evasive maneuvering
14437s	maneuver right into the little
14439s	racket excellent pun they have H seeing
14442s	new players being able to fly their
14443s	ships has always been one of the the
14445s	highlights I think of my Eve experience
14447s	uh you you can have a two- week new
14449s	person who managed to get a clutch Jam
14451s	in the middle of a fight totally
14452s	changing the outcome uh and when they're
14455s	in the hands of skilled Pilots like we
14457s	see on these teams it's just even even
14459s	scarier monster yeah well I'm very
14462s	excited that barcode has managed to win
14463s	this absolute Knife Fight uh we'll send
14466s	it back to the desk after this short
14467s	break to really break down what goes on
14469s	in very high level mirror matches like
14471s	this I'm sure they'll have a lot to say
14475s	barode continuing their run in the upper
14477s	bracket last year they managed to cruise
14478s	into a solid third place I think in
14481s	Lions tournament so an extremely
14483s	competent team and uh putting that on
14485s	display there uh Vasa maneuvering there
14488s	a new name in in the tournament but they
14490s	are a very experienced team they're made
14492s	up of a lot of uh experienced members
14494s	from teams like dark side VI raled uh so
14497s	that was that was always going to be a
14498s	hard match up for anybody U and I think
14500s	we saw a lot of good piloting on both
14502s	sides but mystical might kind of bre
14504s	down for me a little bit what happened
14505s	in that match there to to lead to the
14507s	victory for barode yeah so I turned
14509s	around to grab a chair and both the Lodi
14510s	died um and then from there um it really
14514s	just came down to Target selection so I
14516s	believe the evasive maneuvering team I
14518s	saw at one point that they began to
14520s	shoot a vigil while the barcode team
14524s	just went directly for anal and the m at
14526s	the same time now the damage split
14528s	wasn't ideal because it gave aive
14530s	maneuvering time to change their target
14531s	priority they swapped to a Navy bruck
14533s	that then proceeded to die very quickly
14536s	but um yeah I I think that bco just had
14540s	a better idea about what they wanted to
14541s	be shooting and what they needed to get
14542s	rid of to make sure that they could win
14544s	the match the vigil really isn't going
14547s	to do much you know you leave that vigil
14548s	alive like bco did till the very end
14551s	changes nothing about the match because
14552s	you're just trading ships um so I think
14555s	if AAS maneuvering had you know decided
14558s	to shoot the Navy bruixes or the Navy
14560s	hinger first they may have had a chance
14563s	to win uh since they did have the two
14565s	MERS and the two Omens but I don't think
14568s	that they effectively utiliz their comp
14570s	really I think the damage splits from
14572s	both teams um are not what we expect
14574s	from from these teams we expect these
14576s	teams to play really high um based on
14579s	their previous performances and who they
14580s	are um and it's kind of a shame to see
14583s	that the damage PL is happening it may
14584s	be down to position a little bit but I
14586s	would suggest that they move around get
14588s	into range of the targets they need to
14589s	be shooting um but yeah I mean we we see
14593s	how Target priority can payoff in a
14594s	match especially in a mirror yep and Ali
14597s	any any comments from you yeah so I
14599s	mentioned before the break that I was
14600s	hoping to see quote unquote good comps
14602s	of course those were good comps uh but
14604s	they were also comps we've seen before
14606s	we've seen a lot of those gun spam
14609s	mirrors throughout the feeders we've
14611s	also seen some Rush other stuff and it's
14613s	a very familiar comp at this point both
14616s	teams had very good setups uh the slight
14619s	decrease in DPS on barcode what with the
14621s	molus feeds into what Misty was just
14623s	saying barcode technically was a little
14625s	bit behind in that in a guns spam mirror
14629s	much like in a rush mirror the point is
14630s	to just kill the other ships faster than
14632s	the other team kills yours hence the
14634s	lodgy trade you kill their lodgy then
14636s	you kill all the rest of your ships they
14638s	kill your lodgy they kill the rest of
14639s	your ships and whoever has the most ship
14641s	standing at the end wins the game uh EV
14644s	on line very easy yeah I mean that's it
14647s	like simply reduce the enemy's H to zero
14650s	prior to yours being reduced to zero and
14652s	then you win priz ships true just win
14654s	just just win just win just win just
14655s	don't be bad no skill issues um I
14658s	thought that was a fun match I always
14659s	like merror matchups specifically um
14661s	because there's a lot of times where we
14663s	see games that are decided in the draft
14666s	and that's one amazing way to you know
14669s	flex your knowledge Etc and it's it's
14671s	fantastic sometimes you see uh just two
14673s	comps that are very different and it's
14675s	an execution match but mirror matchups
14677s	are I find them quite interesting
14679s	because the two things have the same
14680s	strengths and weaknesses and you have to
14682s	maximize your strengths while minimizing
14685s	your weaknesses and your opponent are
14686s	try to do the same so it does change the
14688s	way you play against a mirror matchup
14690s	and of course this being e on line like
14692s	a ship is not just a ship it's can be
14694s	fit thousands of different ways so
14696s	although something could look like a
14697s	mirror match up it can actually be
14698s	little tiny differences here and there
14700s	or sometimes even big differences like
14702s	completely different weapon selection
14703s	that can change the whole way a mirror
14705s	matchup uh can can play out Mr you've
14708s	been in a couple of teams what happens
14710s	when you you land on grid and you're
14712s	you're Des scanning as you're Waring in
14713s	and you see the same ships what happens
14716s	uh it depends on how much you've
14717s	practiced um sometimes you'll be
14719s	punching in the air sometimes you'll be
14722s	celebrating you be like yes this is
14723s	great we know how to play this um it
14726s	reminds me of Alliance opens I believe
14728s	where we were doing basically mirror
14731s	matchups it was ham rush it was like
14733s	Nighthawks low Keys sometimes tangus
14735s	depending on what was banned but one
14737s	team bringing the exact same setup would
14740s	fit an extra hardener or something that
14743s	would really skew it so that you You' be
14744s	shooting kinetic into a super high
14746s	kinetic resist and it means that even
14748s	though you have the same ships because
14749s	you haven't accounted for um potential
14752s	like counterfeiting because they know
14754s	your play style you will lose even if
14757s	technically you have an extra DPS ship
14759s	on grid just because it reduces the
14762s	effectiveness of your comp so much so
14764s	it's always interesting um and yeah it
14767s	it that comes down to the theory
14768s	crafting at the end of the day yeah and
14770s	I think um like Theory crafting and and
14772s	the meta and the knowledge become such
14774s	an important part of some of these
14775s	tournaments like the people who are
14777s	playing matches later they will be
14779s	watching closely the matches of their
14781s	their future opponents they will be
14783s	looking back through uh what they've
14785s	brought before they'll be looking at
14786s	individual Pilots they'll be trying to
14788s	like see if they can you know get a
14789s	little bit of extra knowledge and
14790s	sometimes you see this in the ban stage
14792s	when there's like a specific ban it's
14794s	not normally what that team might choose
14795s	to ban but they know that the team that
14797s	they're playing against like favors a
14798s	particular ship and they decide to
14800s	Target it and this extra kind of
14801s	knowledge and uh like the way you do all
14804s	this kind of really separates the team
14806s	some teams and it's fine come in just do
14809s	the best they can do in their own little
14810s	bubble and this is a great way to get
14812s	started in the tournament um and then
14813s	when you get to like a certain stage you
14814s	have to start really like researching
14816s	and and and playing it all out uh but I
14818s	think what they aren't accounting for is
14822s	the power of colors themselves so uh it
14825s	seems to be there's a bit of a of a
14828s	strength of being red or blue in the
14831s	arena uh when it's it's random um but
14835s	I'm looking at this graph here red
14837s	versus blue wins on day two so far and
14842s	red is dominant you want to be red you
14845s	do not want to be blue mystical might
14848s	what what does this mean for the mattera
14849s	it's a funny shade of blue
14852s	um yeah it's just pick red get red if
14856s	you don't get red then don't don't walk
14857s	in you know just refuse I guess um I
14860s	think it it often happens on these
14863s	weekends where a bunch of good teams
14866s	will end up on the same side of the
14867s	sheet and you're like okay this team's
14869s	red um and then we get stats like this
14872s	um the colors don't mean anything um is
14875s	what we want you to think exactly do the
14878s	colors mean something who knows I know
14880s	who knows CP arcade knows uh so you
14883s	should slide into his DMS uh on on
14885s	Discord um he says he'll tell the first
14888s	50 people to do the secret to red and
14890s	blue uh all right so our next match in a
14893s	little bit uh is one that I've been
14894s	looking forward to actually for most of
14895s	the day uh it is Odin's call versus
14898s	arrival so solid teams um we have the
14901s	flag varer which is the meme and I'm so
14904s	happy for it and Odin's call are kind of
14906s	like are they the good Odin's call this
14908s	year or are they not and we're still
14910s	kind of I think they are the good one so
14911s	far they've been the good one but we'll
14913s	see if that continues so let's take a
14914s	look at the bands for this upcoming
14916s	match so we have the EOS the zarm
14918s	wrestle the orthis and the scalpel for
14920s	Odin's call and a Ral Banning of the
14922s	arbitrator curse Pilgrim and crucifier
14925s	Ali what do you make of these particular
14927s	bands so the arrival bands are a band
14930s	set that we've seen a lot take the four
14933s	tracking disruption ships that you like
14935s	the least and ban those this is the
14936s	arbitrator curse Pilgrim crucifier
14939s	sometimes we've seen the Sentinel filled
14941s	in instead of the pilgrim of course the
14943s	Sentinel also has some additional
14944s	utilities so maybe they want to reserve
14946s	that one for themselves meanwhile Odin's
14948s	call scalpel one of the best Shield
14950s	lodgy frigs uh and they've got that
14953s	zaras there preventing some different
14956s	armor control setups from zaras has both
14959s	very good armor control ships and the
14961s	orthis preventing uh you know some of
14963s	the stronger Shield kite setups so again
14966s	these bands it's also interesting the
14967s	bands come in the first ones come in and
14970s	then the teams get a chance to think
14971s	about those and put in the second so
14973s	sometimes it's interesting when you have
14976s	uh bands that are very different on both
14978s	sides to think about what was this team
14979s	reacting to so we have a bunch of armor
14981s	removed okay if there's if we can't a
14984s	good armor setup let's maybe Nerf The
14987s	Shield setups as well so we can put
14989s	ourselves in a slot for Success yeah I
14991s	find the the scalpel an interesting ban
14993s	it just seems to sort of come in on the
14995s	end it's like hello I'm I'm the scalpel
14998s	and oh I forgot about you uh but yet
15001s	it's been banned here which I find super
15002s	interesting meanwhile arrival um the
15005s	keep people with the flag vargar are
15007s	Banning every form of tracking
15008s	disruption they can get their hands on
15010s	uh mystical M do you
15012s	think maybe that they're telegraphing
15014s	they're going to bring their flag varer
15016s	well if you wanted to bring a flag varer
15018s	and it shoots out to about 8 km then
15021s	tracking disruptors would kind of suck
15024s	but I think with the flag Vara you're
15025s	going to want to be on top of whatever
15027s	you're shooting anyway so I don't think
15028s	it really matters that much from the
15030s	Vaga sense but they usually pair the
15032s	Vaga with guns spam which it would have
15036s	an impact on so removing the track and
15039s	disruptors May mean that they want to
15040s	bring their guns B with the Vaga uh but
15042s	it also might mean that they want to
15044s	uh bring you know Shield Rush they've
15045s	done that before as well with squalls um
15049s	and I would say people may not consider
15051s	but squalls don't necessarily have great
15054s	cap and you're not going to be using
15055s	your mids for cap boosters usually and
15057s	you do want your hardeners to remain on
15059s	leaving the Sentinel in maybe takes away
15061s	from that idea a little bit but um yeah
15063s	removing NES that are long range is
15066s	generally a good
15067s	thing what's your opinion on
15070s	fler mine I love I love the fer I love
15073s	in particular the fact that the fer gets
15075s	to fit the local micro jump drive the
15079s	vargar the Marauders in general have
15081s	this fantastic micro jump drive bonus we
15083s	saw a lot of this in the Anor game 6
15085s	tournament where these vargar would have
15087s	this local micro jump drive and they
15088s	just ping around the arena there was
15091s	nowhere that was safe from the vargar
15093s	there was very little way short of
15095s	having a scram and actually getting on
15096s	top of it to prevent that vargar from
15099s	just zipping off wherever they want it
15101s	to be so wonderful ship very excited uh
15105s	cheering for them although I have many
15107s	friends on Odin's call so it's a
15110s	heartbreak moment yeah I'm just looking
15112s	to see um what you lovely people out in
15115s	in twitch land uh think on this one so
15117s	Odin's call are the favorites here uh by
15120s	uh not insignificant margins but 1.7
15122s	million Channel points to to 1 million
15125s	uh uh for arrival and I mean twitch chat
15129s	you you are
15131s	knowledgeable you are wise
15134s	um and you often wrong uh and I think
15137s	this me in my opinion this may be one of
15139s	the cases that they are wrong I think
15140s	this one is on arrival they they're the
15143s	most off the- wall I think so far in
15145s	this tournament in terms of where
15146s	they're going with their like sort of
15147s	top end meta with this the fer um Misty
15151s	any any sort of further thoughts on that
15153s	I think it's hard to call Odin has done
15155s	well with armor comps into Shield rush
15156s	or Shield cutting setups before arriv
15159s	Ral likes to fly a shield so I'm I'm
15162s	seeing a a match up here that isn't in
15164s	arriv ral's favor but I also think that
15166s	arrival might be the more competent
15167s	pilot um so I'm going to go with arrival
15171s	for this one I likewise it's uh it's a
15175s	little tough uh I see that both teams
15177s	are Fielding flagships yep according to
15179s	the screen in front of me so that's very
15180s	ex time baby fler versus Arma Navy
15183s	that's a good point which team is red oh
15186s	um I actually don't know I think it's
15188s	going to be Odin all right Odin okay
15190s	Odin it is damn we might be in trouble
15192s	now all right let's head over to the
15194s	arena and find out who's going to win is
15195s	it red is it blue we don't
15198s	know hello I am moderator once again
15201s	joined by CCP Aurora and we have not one
15204s	but we have two flagships so we see uh
15207s	Hy babes deciding to go with a rival
15209s	arriv rival the only team to bring a
15211s	flag varer and a very similar if not
15213s	almost identical composition uh just
15215s	with some actually very minor variations
15217s	to what they brought last time and
15219s	Odin's call bringing their flag Navy
15222s	Armageddon and Fleet typhoons a bit of a
15224s	change up we've seen mostly Navy
15226s	Armageddon but uh you start to run into
15228s	some um you know duplicate Point issues
15231s	yeah um the seeing these two flagships
15234s	is really exciting this uh this varer is
15236s	the only flag varer in the entire
15237s	tournament the only team who signed up
15239s	to bring these we've seen a lot of Navy
15240s	AR Armageddon it's a little bit less
15243s	interesting in some ways but it's still
15244s	fun to see them die uh so as uh as the
15248s	match gets started here both of the
15250s	teams are kind of uh rotating around a
15252s	little bit trying to get into position
15254s	we can see uh the uh the vargar team
15257s	pulling off here um uh one team pulling
15260s	up one team pulling down uh arrivals
15262s	kind of poking at Odin's call low and
15264s	they've got a Target painter on The
15266s	Inquisitor of AAL inura hoping to try
15268s	and score an easy quick kill and we can
15271s	see that Odin's call has responded with
15273s	uh tracking disruption on the VAR vargar
15275s	and navy farx which are uh the tracking
15278s	disruption is definitely what that varer
15279s	does not want to see no so uh the vargar
15281s	has uh very good bonuses to optimal
15284s	range um notably again in the alliance
15286s	tournament Bastion module is not allowed
15289s	um because it would be absolutely broken
15291s	we had a tournament wear that was
15292s	allowed about 10 years ago and nothing
15294s	died and it was awful so uh we've
15296s	changed the rules that's not allowed
15297s	however what is allowed is for uh The
15300s	Blue Team of arrival to just chill on
15302s	this micro jump drive Beacon and try to
15304s	make a bit of a positional play I like
15306s	um kind of the options you get with that
15308s	um then they've actually they've jumped
15310s	into the backline um some things are
15312s	maybe not jumping at the same range as
15314s	we would expect but uh really we're
15316s	seeing a rival try to get some picks
15317s	onto the low end and if they can get on
15319s	top of the Sentinel that'll be
15321s	incredibly impactful and they do they
15323s	get webs and paints onto that once that
15324s	Sentinal dies it's going to be TVs off
15326s	of the varer off of the Navy foox yep
15329s	with that Sentinel going down that is
15330s	huge because it's opening up that vargar
15332s	Navy farx to truly wreak the H Havoc
15334s	that they were brought for um the Odin
15337s	call team does not have very many ships
15338s	which have bonuses to those tracking
15340s	disruptors we no longer see tracking
15341s	disruptors on that arrival team so those
15344s	uh varer and farx instantly Unchained
15347s	and we can see them making full use of
15349s	that as they punch that uh Fleet typhoon
15351s	of Colonel CTS into low Shield okay so
15353s	the jack do does get sacrificed but in
15355s	exchange they get The Inquisitor once
15357s	The Inquisitor dies um the purifier is
15359s	probably going to be very likely the
15361s	next primary right purifiers have
15363s	exactly basically zero HP but what they
15365s	do is a ton of torpedo damage and if
15367s	you're a varer if you're a Navy foox you
15369s	don't want to get hit by Torpedoes
15371s	however this Navy foox is getting
15373s	absolutely deleted by rapid Heavies and
15377s	as I may have forecasted the purifier
15379s	got deleted so now a rival is choosing
15381s	to go through the low end right kill the
15383s	Magus then the pon effects then once the
15386s	links fall off then you can try to
15387s	choose to chew through the uh the
15389s	typhoon and the Navy armag get in here
15391s	yep uh that Navy FX going into low hall
15393s	now that will be a fairly big hit to
15395s	that arrival team uh if it goes down as
15398s	it is a decent portion of their damage
15400s	however they have a fleet varer which is
15402s	going to be able to push out quite a lot
15404s	of damage not quite the same amount as
15406s	those uh typhoons and Armageddon however
15410s	um but it looks like the Odin call team
15411s	is now on rapid reload their attack bar
15413s	has fallen off there's no damage going
15415s	out uh the uh arrival team gets a chance
15418s	to breathe here for a few moments trying
15420s	to pick off a couple extra ships on the
15422s	low end uh leaving almost only those uh
15425s	those battleships um with their with
15427s	their inquisitors gone those Fleet
15428s	typhoons do not have a chance to rep up
15431s	um in in this uh downtime which rival
15433s	doesn't really have you can see damage
15435s	is just pounding away at that uh Fleet
15437s	typhoon of the parodian um as he starts
15440s	to dip into armor yeah so the varer I
15443s	mean earlier had just one tapped this
15445s	ponteix right I mean has excellent
15447s	projection stats on top of it and these
15448s	fantasms of Duru and Furious uh dentu is
15451s	going to go down but what they're doing
15453s	right now is really getting a good
15455s	amount of screen on this Fleet typhoon
15457s	and the hyena is actually pretty
15459s	critical here because um what you really
15461s	need right to hit a Fant f is you need a
15464s	web in a paint because with that 10mn um
15466s	afterburner that a lot of these fantasms
15468s	will have if you're able to just kind of
15470s	afterburn even rapid Heavies have
15472s	difficulty hitting you so this hyena is
15474s	getting absolute money right now um you
15476s	know webbing down um these chips that
15478s	are being able to um get that support
15481s	and application right now the hen is
15483s	getting nuded it is getting chased down
15485s	by a handful of light drones and
15488s	eventually the hyena will probably fall
15489s	but the varer has gotten um webbed the
15493s	Bell getting one tapped Again by those
15495s	rapid Heavies and arrival here yes you
15498s	have a flag varer yes it is very good at
15500s	tanking I mean look at that purple right
15502s	that active rep bar but Odin's call
15504s	their uh attack bar is absolutely
15506s	massive right it's going to chew through
15508s	the stormbringer then the stor once the
15510s	links are off uh then they're going to
15512s	try to go for the varer I mean both of
15514s	these teams very much understand their
15516s	win conditions but Odin's call is just
15517s	executing on their slightly better yeah
15520s	um the uh rival needs to get some of
15524s	those uh uh battleships down on the
15526s	Odin's call side they they keep uh
15529s	touching on that uh that Fleet typhoon
15532s	of the paradine um but we haven't seen
15534s	damage go onto him for about a minute at
15536s	this point as he's pulled quite far into
15538s	the backline he's out of uh uh premium
15541s	optimal at this point so I think the uh
15544s	that varer is trying to figure out who
15546s	is who is his optimal Target as he um is
15549s	pulling out there is uh a single drone
15552s	on him uh which is is not going to do a
15553s	whole lot to that uh Battleship um we we
15556s	see the hyena is webbed and nuded uh
15559s	Odin call however have a very commanding
15561s	point lead so uh even if uh if they can
15564s	keep those three battleships alive we
15566s	now see webs going on to the varer if
15567s	they can put all three of those
15569s	battleships on that VAR they might be
15570s	able to take down that Flagship which
15572s	would completely secure the match
15573s	because the Rival would has no other
15575s	ships to deal DPS so what the hyena was
15577s	doing here is he did a bit of a drive by
15579s	um scram to try to slow down the varer
15581s	right and the hyet realized that what
15583s	he's going to be doing is sacrificing
15584s	himself um in order to do this but it's
15587s	worth it right the hyena now has been
15589s	able to kind of get away uh the varer
15592s	did get some heavy NES and it's throwing
15594s	um Imperial Navy acolytes onto this
15596s	hyena the hyena is not really moving
15598s	right it's you know going uh 300 km a
15601s	second it's pretty much completely
15602s	captur but this varer right has to kill
15604s	the hyena and what Odin call is doing is
15607s	they're recognizing uh we don't want to
15609s	get anywhere near an autoc Canon Vargo
15611s	right they're just going to try to put
15612s	their ships I would imagine as far as
15614s	possible away because they're ahead on
15616s	points they don't need to try to commit
15618s	to anything they just need to get away
15620s	to the best of their ability and right
15623s	what they're doing is painting the
15624s	Scimitar they're nuding the Scimitar I
15627s	really like that call because again when
15629s	they kill it it's 32 more points off the
15632s	grid and a varer it's going to have to
15634s	kill you know a fleet typhoon and you
15637s	know one of these other battleships and
15639s	with three minutes and 20 seconds left I
15641s	don't think Hy babes has time he might
15644s	not however that varer is still fairly
15645s	well supported um with that cimar to
15647s	give him reps it's it's effectively
15650s	pointless to try and shoot that varer so
15651s	they need to deal with him first uh
15653s	being webbed and nuded is a good start
15655s	they've also got had Target paints on
15657s	the stor they've been poking at him but
15659s	really haven't quite managed to scratch
15660s	the surface uh if they could take that
15662s	stor down it would help to remove a
15663s	decent chunk of the defens defensibility
15666s	of that Barger hopefully to like make
15668s	take advantage oh that's pretty big as
15670s	the hyena goes down so critically what
15671s	the hyena was doing is it was Absolut
15673s	chasing down the Scimitar right and
15674s	that's why we saw the web and some of
15676s	the paint but now the Scimitar is doing
15678s	its absolutely level best we can see you
15680s	know it it's going rather quickly he's
15682s	heating his prop mod trying to just get
15684s	away from the you know 60 70 km range
15686s	right now we see howling wind looks like
15689s	they might have gotten off an ASB reload
15690s	because he's you know ASB trying to um
15693s	you know push through things so right
15694s	now as it stands um arriv Ral if they
15698s	kill any one of the fleet of the fleet
15702s	typhoons they will be in the lead but if
15703s	they kill the Navy Armageddon they will
15705s	be tied and then we would go to sudden
15707s	death so with Colonel CTS getting rather
15710s	low um this varer is going to want to
15712s	chase something down because again
15714s	killing Colonel Curts is a match win at
15716s	this point it looks like the citar has
15717s	broken range that citar is is a bit
15720s	faster than those battleships he's
15721s	pulled away and he is currently living
15724s	uh we've got a n still on him uh coming
15726s	from uh the Armageddon Navy issue um
15730s	which is uh probably bonus and long
15732s	range so he's not going to to be doing a
15733s	lot of repping but Colonel kurs is now
15735s	in Hull uh this varer is going to put
15737s	out a whole bunch of hurt he's been
15738s	chasing the battleships that are chasing
15740s	that citar they've been almost baited
15743s	into this position okay so what's going
15744s	on right now is that the vargar looks
15746s	like he's loaded um absolute barrage
15748s	right and the varer is getting nuded out
15750s	by the fleet typhoon but Colonel Curts
15752s	is also getting counter nuded and
15754s	there's just this tiny little cloud of
15756s	drones chasing after this Fleet typhoon
15759s	and now it looks like we have driveby
15761s	tackle from one of the other Fleet and
15763s	an absolutely clutch play so what this
15765s	is going to do it's going to hold down
15766s	Hy babes with this Colonel Kurt should
15768s	be able to Break range and that means
15770s	that the varer are going to have to hard
15772s	commit and switch because if Colonel
15774s	Curts is this low oh my God these drones
15777s	there's three tiny drones on top of it
15778s	colonel Curts does not have any active
15780s	tank and there's a minute left if these
15782s	drones are still in range um Colonel
15784s	kurts could go down and that would be a
15786s	match win but Hy bab's getting rather
15788s	low here yeah Colonel Curt's now 108 km
15791s	at out heading towards the edge of the
15793s	Arena he's uh probably about 70 km away
15796s	from this uh varer at this point the
15797s	vargar is going to start going to fall
15799s	off he's going to have trouble hitting
15800s	the varo goes down the Rival is going to
15802s	be out with that the um Colonel Kurt has
15806s	managed to survive in 6% structure had
15809s	that not been the case and he had not
15811s	been able to continue to pump damage
15812s	onto the varer that arrival varer would
15815s	have survived Odin's call showing an
15817s	absolute master class in a absolutely
15820s	nail-biting performance I can hear the
15823s	analysts outside on the disc absolutely
15825s	screaming and they're absolutely right
15827s	to this right here is the kind of
15831s	defining match play that you would
15833s	expect out of a grand finals match this
15835s	is easily one of the most exciting and
15836s	enjoyable matches that I've been able to
15839s	commentate it's been an absolute
15840s	privilege and pleasure to work alongside
15842s	you Aurora and with that I think we're
15845s	going to have to send it to a break and
15846s	then the analysis to to pull this one
15848s	apart we still have a oh no we are at
15850s	time so
15853s	match of the day so far what an absolute
15857s	clutch save by Odin's call holy hell
15860s	that was awesome so right at the end
15863s	like if you didn't catch it that was
15865s	some incredible piloting and decision
15867s	making by Odin's call H you saw there
15870s	was two of those Fleet typhoons left and
15872s	the the flag varer was going to have to
15874s	pick one and go for it he's decided to
15876s	go for Colonel CTS he was killing
15879s	Colonel CTS and then if if what happened
15882s	happened a little bit too early in the
15883s	match then it would probably wouldn't
15884s	have worked but uh the Paradigm comes
15886s	barreling in in his because most of the
15889s	damage has now been put onto um the
15890s	other one there's not enough time left
15891s	in the match to swap back over to the
15893s	Paradigm so he comes flying in to just
15895s	bang punch into that uh that varer and
15899s	let Colonel CTS pull as much range as
15901s	possible uh saving him so absolute hero
15904s	move from the Paradigm 6% structure I'm
15906s	told um and uh it looks like yep a spicy
15910s	Flagship vargar hzy babe uh it's list on
15914s	zad kill 76 billion isk um and it looks
15918s	like yeah lots of uh modified gyro stabs
15921s	some some Spacey damage controls but
15923s	yeah wow mystical M that was incredible
15927s	yeah I think that was a really exciting
15928s	match to watch um I thought we were
15930s	going to end the streak of red teams
15931s	winning but you know unfortunately not
15934s	um there were questions that I had
15935s	around the arrival team um and the
15938s	decision making of howling wind in the
15940s	simitar um I mentioned you know wasn't
15943s	quite sure why the simitar had decided
15944s	to not burn back in and try and get reps
15946s	on the Vaga um we saw reps land for a
15949s	little bit and we thought that the Vaga
15950s	might hold um just as Hy was entering
15953s	structure and then the Reps dropped off
15956s	again now Ali was right when it when um
15961s	they said that the simitar was forced
15963s	away from the varaga because the three
15965s	battleships sorry were chasing um and
15969s	there was a lot of n pressure over that
15970s	time period as well where the simitar
15972s	would have to be managing cap burning
15973s	through cap boosters probably
15975s	overheating my drive quite a bit to get
15976s	away but I don't think that really
15978s	impacts the high slots that much you
15980s	know once the simitar was out of range
15983s	it had the ability to burn around and
15985s	come back in especially when they
15986s	switched attention to the Vaga because
15988s	the worst thing that could have possibly
15989s	happened is that they stopped shooting
15991s	the varaga and they switched back to the
15992s	simitar which I think would have been a
15994s	worthwhile trade and a way to run down
15996s	the clock a little bit more and give
15997s	that Vaga some room to move around um
16000s	and try to finish off the uh called Cuts
16003s	yeah I think the one of the things
16004s	that's challenging about the Scimitar
16006s	and in particular the capacitor on the
16007s	simitar is the Scimitar doesn't have a
16009s	lot of cap many at fits are trying to
16012s	get as much rep out of their highs as
16014s	they can and in order to do that you fit
16016s	the biggest reppers that you can the
16017s	most cap hungry reppers that you can
16020s	many scimitars can't actually be flown
16023s	microw warp drive all your highs
16025s	especially not all your high overheated
16027s	when you're overheating your Shield reps
16029s	they're cycling faster you're sucking
16031s	through cap more often so if the
16034s	Scimitar pilot was dry and like chewing
16038s	cap boosters to get out of the heavy n
16039s	range coasts a little bit too far turns
16043s	around and then all of a sudden you have
16045s	to chew cap boosters just to mwd plus
16049s	run your highs you're not running all
16050s	your highs you get maybe three of them
16051s	heated it's kind of a rough time yeah I
16054s	see um in twitch chat Hing wind saying
16057s	he ran out of Camp boosters H so what a
16060s	way to lose 75 billion Hing why didn't
16063s	you just bring more of them true like
16065s	what is this it's a skill issue that's
16066s	what this is I'm not defaming you good
16069s	sir I'm flaming you good there's a big
16072s	difference uh yeah I mean if you had
16074s	simply brought more then you know
16076s	Flagship varer the fler dream is dead
16079s	that's the that's the the main takeaway
16080s	from here I will say um to arrival uh I
16084s	like that they did something different
16085s	uh like it's so easy for a lot of teams
16087s	to just go yes the Bal Gorn or The
16091s	Vindicator or the armag Navy I should
16092s	this is why all most of the teams this
16094s	is the best variety of flagships we've
16095s	had for a while in this tournament uh
16097s	I'm super excited about it like the B is
16098s	back uh we still have a couple of the
16100s	Shacks kicking around for a couple of
16102s	people who think we're still in the
16103s	liance tournament 16 um we have a couple
16105s	of indicators for Australians um we have
16108s	uh the armag Navy isue of course being
16110s	super popular and then we have some bar
16111s	guests for the pro Gamers but then the
16113s	varo came along and I was like question
16116s	mark question mark and honestly I was
16118s	impressed I think it went quite well so
16120s	good job arrival for entertaining us and
16122s	bringing
16123s	something interesting and fun to the L
16125s	because that was awesome all right our
16127s	next match this is going to be a good
16128s	one this is going to be Exodus versus
16131s	Ronin reloaded let's take a quick look
16133s	at the band for this one Exodus Banning
16136s	out okay here we go I need to lean in
16137s	for this one Banning out the Loki and
16139s	the zarman and there's an emoji for
16141s	cheese here uh so I'm not sure if it's
16144s	silence cheese or if I pronounce the
16145s	cheese but this is zarman cheese uh also
16148s	the Armageddon the anos the abadin for R
16151s	reloaded uh the armagedon Navy isue the
16153s	cimer and the Jack doll Ally have a look
16156s	at these bands what do you think so
16158s	Exodus uh Ron reloaded previously has
16160s	flown one of those nice drone control
16162s	setups with the zarman cheese as the
16165s	seasoning on the top very important
16167s	element so baning that out means either
16169s	they don't get to bring that or they're
16171s	forced to bring the Riva one of the
16172s	things I noticed with all of these banss
16174s	is we haven't banned any of those
16176s	disruption ships so it's likely that
16179s	control is going to be the name of the
16180s	game yeah I I think think that's a a
16183s	high likelihood I mean exus are
16185s	extremely experienced team uh with some
16187s	extremely experienced pilots in it as
16188s	well uh this is a if I'm not mistaken
16192s	this is in fact a elimination match as
16194s	well that's right yes yes these are
16196s	elimination matches so uh teams if they
16199s	lose this they are gone from the
16200s	alliance tournament uh the last match we
16202s	just saw was the last one in the winners
16203s	bracket we have now joined the losers
16205s	we're back with the losers um so we get
16208s	to find out who is the most losingest in
16210s	this particular matchup Mr Gite any pred
16212s	of what we might see in this
16215s	match yes let's think about it for great
16219s	thank you're welcome um no I'm thinking
16221s	probably going to be like guns spam
16222s	again guns spam seems like a fairly safe
16224s	bet especially for teams where um they
16227s	can focus more on execution um if we
16230s	were to see you know a guns spam um
16233s	mirror match I'd expect that Exodus
16235s	would be able to kind of edge out over
16237s	Ronan um just due to their past
16240s	experience but also um just yeah like
16243s	execution in general uh but you know you
16246s	mentioned there's no tracking disruptors
16248s	it seems like a safe bet you could also
16249s	go Shield kite you could do Shield gun
16252s	spam you could do triple
16254s	Battleship just not with the Armageddon
16256s	Navy issue which is fantastic yep um I
16258s	think the flagships are uh I think the
16261s	Texas L their Flagship can't remember I
16263s	feel like I've seen so many matches and
16265s	then so many have been so good that I'm
16266s	struggling to start to like tease them
16268s	apart in my brain now they lost the
16270s	flagships um sabotage was flying the
16272s	Flagship and it had two Missour webs yes
16274s	that's right we talked about that
16275s	yesterday excellent okay so no Flagship
16278s	um for exus uh means that they are
16281s	potentially going to be in the back fot
16282s	with TS of bands they don't have that to
16284s	to pull out and to to band Dodge of
16285s	course the additional power that having
16287s	a flag ship will give you uh this could
16290s	be useful for run and reloaded uh they
16292s	know this now uh so we might see like
16294s	you mentioned some of this gun spam um
16297s	there is a lot of e War still available
16299s	lots of eir so this honestly these bands
16302s	I feel like there just so much that they
16304s	didn't ban um this time that I really
16306s	don't know where this is going to go but
16307s	we can head to the arena and find out so
16309s	let's just do that Exodus versus Ron and
16310s	reloaded now on Alliance tournament
16316s	20 welcome back to the arena my name is
16318s	Fe Vina joined by the lovely Starfleet
16321s	Commander once again and we are ready to
16323s	go Exodus on the red side run and
16325s	reloaded on the blue side and exodus
16327s	have brought a drone comp but unlike all
16330s	the rest of the Drone comps we've seen
16331s	today and yesterday not even a drone
16333s	control comp it is just drones just
16335s	loads of drones they just thought how
16337s	many drones can we get in a comp let's
16338s	just get them in and R loaded with the
16340s	rush right now SL and CLS and BR at zero
16343s	so literally going to they're going to
16345s	bum it in aren't they yeah they warp at
16348s	zero and Rush is always a bit of
16349s	something that is looked down upon uh
16352s	but also in Rush typically you all have
16354s	the same gun systems uh this time around
16356s	you have slers and broadswords yeah but
16357s	you also have a claymore onx and squalls
16359s	so it's a mix of uh it ham and auto
16363s	cannons some of those faster ships like
16365s	the broadsword might be able to get
16367s	something on top of the sexus squad but
16369s	their drones they can just kite away
16371s	pretty much infinitely so we'll see how
16373s	this gets done Exodus has to out execute
16375s	here if they want to win this oh
16376s	definitely but the Claymore did war at
16378s	50 so I think he's heav missile I think
16381s	he's going to step back with with the
16382s	schools at the moment but obviously as
16384s	expected the sers and on it's going in
16386s	those hick scrams will be doing
16387s	everything right now they're going to
16388s	try and lock some stuff down the Brads
16390s	are webbed at the moment uh so hopefully
16393s	they can get free the Hena is the Lynch
16394s	pin right now of ex's um comp curate is
16397s	dropped warden's dropped and bounc has
16399s	dropped some damage going down on the
16401s	burst but hopefully he get if he's
16403s	webbed and tpd they'll get him down yeah
16405s	and uh those hamb boats actually all
16408s	worked at 50 but I did check they are
16410s	hand so they're running in uh Grant
16412s	Claymore has a range bonus to those
16414s	heavy assault missiles so it makes
16415s	things a bit easier uh if you want to
16417s	war them behind the SL there as we see
16419s	Wasa QC and the hyena dropping very
16421s	rapidly into AR
16422s	that paint very important for drone
16424s	comps in order to get application for
16426s	any of your drones was QC though
16429s	currently holding under the Deon Thia
16430s	reps R realizing and notifying that R QC
16434s	is the most important ship on their team
16436s	he is the lynchman of their entire setup
16438s	if they lose him that is their
16439s	application gone and their also
16441s	defensive web's completely gone so he
16443s	needs to be so so careful Razer in the
16445s	slep now the primary for the eos's um I
16448s	mean he should I think he should go down
16451s	here they've only got the burst and the
16453s	and the Bantam for reps do you think he
16454s	can break it uh well once he's out of XL
16457s	ASB charges uh definitely uh razor Razer
16461s	uh pretty low in Shields already I
16463s	haven't been counting the XPS yet so I
16465s	haven't seen if it's nine uh quite yet
16468s	but we see a massive clown of drones on
16470s	top of them uh lots of various ones and
16472s	also uh these were centuries from the
16474s	EOS so centuries in center of the Arena
16476s	uh the slep N does not do what you need
16479s	to do against centries which is burn in
16481s	and get as close as you can and since
16483s	there's no real tackle oh the Deacon
16485s	hold up gun down the Deacon down for for
16488s	the burst for the burst trading and that
16490s	that burst completely evaporated I mean
16493s	exus need to work quickly here yet get
16495s	the bantom down and start working
16496s	through that DPS Vex Navy V Navy isue
16499s	your sniper is in low armor right now so
16501s	the rush team opting to go straight for
16502s	the D DPS ignore the other thallia and
16505s	go straight for the damage ships yeah uh
16507s	scrammed by one of those broadswords and
16509s	the other broadsword has scrammed the
16510s	Ishtar of viton so that will be the next
16513s	Target from this Rush setup Razer Razer
16515s	now into half armor uh but this vexor
16517s	Navy issue of sniper Bros 15 will be the
16520s	trade for it in low structure right now
16522s	still the hyena alive most of the DPS
16524s	still alive for Exodus we see uh Ronin
16527s	reloaded still has the higher attack bar
16529s	but the control bar for Exodus is much
16531s	much greater uh that said the other
16533s	broadsword found the other Vex Navy
16535s	issue so they're going to move on to
16536s	this isar and then to the other vexter
16538s	Navy uh very good job by these hick
16540s	Pilots of going and getting continual
16542s	tackle in a chain so that the rush can
16544s	keep on rushing the slip is now the
16546s	primary I think exist are doing the
16548s	right cool here just get rid of the top
16549s	end ships while they have the DPS to do
16551s	it because if they waste time they could
16553s	kill like the Onyx and and BR maybe to
16555s	get the tackle off but I think if they
16556s	get the slip near off I think it might
16558s	be better in the long run but they still
16559s	need to get through the broad swords and
16561s	they can lock them down but they got
16562s	they have the Hena still and athalia so
16565s	the one Thia can really come into play
16567s	later on yeah I mean xlb on the SL there
16570s	uh no other form of logi for him so as
16574s	soon as they get him into armor and he
16576s	no longer has any xlb charges they will
16578s	kill him uh we see this vexor Navy issue
16581s	going down the stalia uh staying alive
16583s	and kind of living to win right now uh
16586s	has not been really tackled by anything
16587s	they've got this hick scram they've got
16589s	this web on the vexter Navy issue now
16591s	poed has actually been webbed uh by the
16594s	hyena so should now go down to the Drone
16597s	blob as the vni Falls I mean the S
16599s	they're going to trade up with a slip
16600s	net I mean everything else on the exus
16602s	team isn't tackled right now they're
16604s	completely free which is exactly where
16605s	they want to be they still have a Thia
16607s	why a QC in the high is still up so I I
16609s	still think Exodus can take this away
16612s	yeah Exodus currently 80 to 71 uh now
16615s	they have to go for either the
16616s	broadswords or the Claymore or the Onyx
16619s	uh the Onyx I believe is actually the
16621s	most tanky of those uh by some
16624s	significant margin cuz the Claymore
16626s	doesn't have the rep bonus that the
16628s	tech1 variant does uh whereas the Onyx
16630s	just has a massive resist bonus being a
16632s	Tech 2 galari Hall uh that said uh
16635s	really no damage has come out from when
16637s	reloaded onto this exus squad nothing's
16639s	tackled down we see some paints onto
16640s	this hyena a little bit of drone damage
16642s	at the moment but if the stalia can get
16644s	some back on the hyena it's going to be
16647s	a for them and wasak QC uh trying to get
16651s	away from the Drone damage as we blocks
16653s	is the primary uh from these eos's and
16655s	nishar Waki burning burning towards the
16658s	thall to try and get reps I mean this is
16660s	a dance for wazaki and aalia Mr Falcon
16663s	has no external reps so he's very easy
16665s	to kill but he's it's so important to
16667s	keep wazer up as the broads is in half
16669s	armor a half Shield sorry but I think I
16672s	think if if exus play this correctly
16673s	they could get the they could get keep
16675s	the lead ahead right now I think so I'm
16677s	actually a bit interested as to why uh
16681s	these are buffer broadswords uh
16683s	typically when you think of a broadword
16685s	you typically think of it as an EXL ASB
16687s	ship or at least I do uh when I use a
16690s	Broad Sword I typically active rep so uh
16693s	it's a bit interesting that it's full
16695s	buffer especially because you had T1
16696s	frig lodgy and you had these uh self-re
16699s	SN on your team um does mean that it's a
16703s	lot of buffer and it's a lot for these
16704s	drones to chew through so it probably
16706s	was the right call uh this particular
16708s	time but uh still a bit interesting and
16711s	fitting they might go into that on the
16713s	desk I mean the FIA is holding on into
16715s	low armor the the the ishar now of Aaron
16718s	about to go into structure he does go
16720s	down I the points that on Ronin reloaded
16722s	getting some points now ahead on points
16724s	I believe um so I think that exus really
16729s	needs to get the Bal down to get some
16730s	points back on the board the th about to
16732s	go down sabotage now primary I mean I
16734s	think Ron reload are just going to power
16736s	through yeah they have this broadsword
16737s	and the Onyx tackled one of the eos's
16739s	sabotage has been caught up with and
16741s	this is the the thing I think right run
16744s	and reloaded they're like okay uh you
16746s	don't want to see rush because you
16748s	banned the ly we're going to rush you
16750s	anyway and uh we teaming two Hicks this
16753s	time we're going to bring three so
16755s	you're not getting away you're not
16757s	getting away and of course the
16758s	broadsword is uh the fastest of the
16760s	Hicks um we blocks now into low
16763s	structure and these are actually
16765s	incredibly tanky versus the throne
16767s	damage uh because uh galente uh ships if
16772s	they have glent drones out which uh I'm
16774s	looking to see these
16776s	are actually a mix of drones there's a
16779s	mix of Dres right now curators uh Warden
16782s	um so they're doing not the best damage
16787s	type into te mimar resists typically you
16790s	want to be doing kinetic um but this
16792s	time around the broadsword uh you're
16794s	kind of hitting into teu mimar uh Happy
16798s	places yeah I mean with wak QC
16800s	dangerously though now armor he's got
16802s	drones in him with no th on grid he's
16803s	definitely going to go down in the
16804s	second here he is pointed as well
16806s	sabotage going down his slow armor I
16808s	think R have got this I mean what a
16811s	grueling match for both sides to be
16813s	honest yeah it's it's been very
16816s	difficult for Exodus after that initial
16818s	start uh run and reloaded as I mentioned
16820s	right they did a very good job with
16822s	their Hicks um and coordinating them and
16824s	always having a Target tackled for The
16826s	Rush to come in and DPS down this EOS
16830s	Falls run and re loading are going to
16831s	end up taking this match and uh this is
16834s	not a type of comp that we really have
16837s	seen a whole lot of mixed AC and ham
16840s	Rush what do you make of it I think the
16842s	the well the Hicks are the key part of
16844s	this hit and also let's not forget
16845s	there's two schools secretly doing
16847s	damage at the back as well so there a
16849s	lot of little extra damage being applied
16851s	at range as well so I I do I mean I
16854s	think that it would lose to other Rush
16856s	setups obviously I think that they kind
16858s	of read the bands really well like you
16859s	said I think they just thought hey
16861s	they're going to do something we're
16862s	going to lock you down cuz the Ishtar
16863s	the Drone comps want to spread out
16865s	completely yeah like to try and mitigate
16868s	their damage they they don't need to be
16869s	next to each other anymore once the
16870s	drones are dropped they can move away
16872s	yeah and uh on top of that right you
16874s	need to uh as you mentioned do that you
16877s	can Starburst you can try to string out
16879s	a rush um but the thing is unlike your
16882s	traditional what we've seen in this
16883s	tournament with one nigh Hawk two lokis
16885s	or some teams have brought two Hicks
16887s	when you have three tackle ships right
16890s	that adds a little bit to um the
16893s	equation right you have uh another
16895s	tackle ship you can have a backup tackle
16897s	ship in case one of them dies uh you can
16899s	continue to string people out and when
16901s	you have these things that are Starburst
16902s	if you have one of your ships tackled
16904s	that's expected at the start of the
16905s	match but the second that uh you have
16908s	one tackled and then two different ships
16910s	can chase in two different directions
16912s	right then that becomes much more
16915s	difficult for you to deal with spread
16916s	out you waste time that's the whole
16918s	point when it comes to if you're in a
16919s	drone comp you know with these es and
16921s	stuff you want to waste as much time for
16923s	The Rush team to go from one ship to the
16924s	other and while you just Whitted it all
16926s	the way down I unfortunately I think
16928s	this is the end of the road for Exodus
16930s	which I'm kind of actually but Ron
16933s	reloaded PR enjoyers I mean r reloaded I
16937s	mean I thought ex is going to have this
16938s	one actually and if re South waza and
16941s	and the guys to be knocked out the
16942s	tournament but congratulations to R
16944s	Reloaded The morus is The Last Ship left
16946s	on the grid he is burning around he's
16948s	just look at him look at him go he's
16951s	he's ways away from the rest of the team
16952s	Edge of Glory yeah get to the might not
16955s	get prize ships but you can try to be a
16957s	Z's record come on I think he could he
16959s	could position himself to a m you know a
16962s	driving start and just jump out the
16963s	arena be really good I mean Ral loaded
16966s	not a team I had I mean they're in the
16967s	losers but they they're powering through
16969s	against a team that has a massive
16970s	tournament pedigree yeah and uh R
16973s	reloaded um these teams are or these uh
16976s	Pilots have a bit of tournament
16977s	experience under the beds uh bed the
16979s	boss has uh been a captain of a couple
16982s	of tournament teams before so looks good
16984s	for them getting those prize ships
16986s	you're guaranteed at least one of the
16988s	Battleship Two Cruisers two frigs uh and
16990s	that is a significant Payday for you uh
16994s	and the rest of your team depending on
16996s	how you distribute that we're going to
16997s	send it to a quick break and then
16998s	afterwards the desk will break that game
17000s	down and bring us into the next match we
17002s	will be right back after
17004s	this that Exodus sadly departs aliance
17007s	tournament 20 uh they they dropped the
17010s	ball a little bit there but I mean that
17013s	was an exciting match to watch they went
17015s	back and forward we saw some excellent
17017s	displays of individual piloting uh by uh
17020s	pilots on both sides of that match there
17022s	we had uh Wasa QC in that hyena just
17025s	like doing a great job webbing
17027s	everything down keeping a lot of ships
17028s	controlled with his one uh and using
17031s	that team used afterburners to great
17032s	effect obviously uh they were up against
17035s	Hicks which have a bonus scram but if
17036s	you have afterburners that scram
17038s	essentially does very little it does
17040s	stop you micro jump driving away it's
17041s	pretty much the only thing really left
17042s	to do but um having those uh
17045s	afterburners to just kind of keep moving
17047s	around we saw the survivability of those
17049s	ships the hyena really did not die for a
17051s	very long long time uh Bart welcome back
17053s	to the desk oh thank you how was that
17054s	match for you uh it was pretty good um a
17057s	little weird seeing uh you know this
17059s	whole at has been as seeing these kind
17060s	of old comps like it's like ah we saw
17063s	Balor and battle Cruisers we've seen you
17065s	know like a like we saw you Mirch and
17067s	the tuskers bring back the same thing
17068s	they brought for like four years and
17069s	beat people with it again and now we
17072s	finally we saw an Ishtar vexer Navy
17074s	issue heavy drone comp and it was like
17076s	yeah we haven't seen that for a couple
17078s	years and I mean I don't like there's a
17080s	reason for it it's not that good uh I
17083s	don't think that's necessarily why they
17084s	lost per se was cuz they brought ishar
17086s	heavy drone comp I think that just in
17088s	general we've seen for a while that a uh
17092s	heavy drone setups have a lot of trouble
17095s	versus rushes because the whole point of
17097s	that setup is to basically put their
17099s	drones on something kill it and then
17100s	kind of Starburst and spread away the
17102s	problem is is that if every ship on the
17103s	enemy team is able to solo your ship
17105s	which is kind of how the rushes work
17107s	that that's what you know that's what
17109s	happens you keep trying to spread out
17110s	and be like okay well send guy tack tack
17112s	you here tack you here and then it was
17113s	gun down so it was okay I mean it was a
17115s	good match there was really good
17117s	piloting like everyone piloted really
17119s	well I think the Exodus comp was
17122s	actually terrible yeah I mean Exodus um
17125s	we say this all the time and it it
17126s	continues to be true um that they have
17128s	some really amazingly skilled individual
17130s	Pilots but they have sometimes stumbled
17131s	a little bit on the uh the comp
17133s	selection uh the the sort of the more
17135s	meta thing they do really enjoy more
17138s	vintage styles of comps I I tend to
17140s	notice each here uh if there's a team
17143s	that's likely to bring something that
17144s	was popular x amount of years ago uh
17147s	they they would be one to do it and they
17148s	will do it well like let's be clear
17150s	they'll probably do it quite well as
17151s	well as it can be done whether or not
17153s	it's the right comp for the situation of
17154s	course it remains to be to be seen Mr
17158s	any thoughts I was just going to add
17159s	that I think if they'd been going into
17162s	anything but the three Hicks they may
17164s	have actually done better um the
17168s	scripted point on a hick reaches out to
17170s	about 37.5 with
17172s	T2 and it stops you from being able to
17174s	micro drump drive so if they'd gone up
17176s	against anything else um they wouldn't
17179s	have had that issue the oses that were
17180s	on the beacon would have been able to
17181s	jump away uh much sooner um and they may
17184s	have had a chance at drawing out the
17185s	match and actually winning um so I think
17187s	even though we don't often see Hicks uh
17190s	you know people favor usually um Navy
17194s	caracal Navy ospre bunch of battle
17196s	Cruisers Etc with their hand rushes um
17199s	in this particular case they do serve
17201s	actual purpose that most other ships in
17203s	the tornament can't fulfill yeah all
17205s	right so um we are still in the
17207s	elimination bracket and we have another
17208s	match coming up in about 5 minutes and
17210s	this is going to be an exciting one this
17212s	is we form Volta versus good swarm
17214s	Federation uh so uh someone has managed
17217s	to convince Annie to come down from the
17218s	Eiffel Tower he's back at his desk ready
17220s	to game again uh so will they of course
17222s	be able to defeat gorm Federation uh
17225s	that remains to be seen uh let's hear
17228s	from we form VTA spokesperson though
17230s	about what they do on
17232s	Tranquility hello there my name is
17234s	reload AKA Planet 6 and I represent the
17239s	team we form Volta Volta is currently
17242s	living in Thea to do active PVP in NC
17247s	via
17248s	wormholes Balter itself has competed in
17252s	the tournament about 10 or so
17256s	times or a few times also in community
17260s	game tournaments as well uh the last
17263s	time we won the tournament was Alliance
17265s	tournament 10 that was under a different
17268s	name of verge of collapse and that is
17271s	actually the only time voltr won was was
17274s	the first time we
17282s	competed and that was uh we for VTA uh
17286s	what they do in Tranquility uh thank you
17288s	for that all right let's take a quick
17290s	look at the B for this upcoming match H
17293s	so we form VTA Banning out the Sentinel
17295s	the curse the Loki and the Kieran so not
17297s	the scalpel this time it's the Kieran um
17299s	and gwor Federation Banning out the
17302s	armagedon the Loki and the
17306s	onos uh Misty or oh together I guess you
17309s	could be
17312s	bisty not quite as good as the
17314s	other when one word can do yes I could
17317s	remind
17318s	you yes there are some examples where
17320s	this is not work and two words are by
17323s	far the superior option but I like bti
17326s	so Misty of bti Fame uh tell me about
17328s	these bands uh let me I'm trying to see
17332s	them a little bit I'm going to step
17333s	across you a little bit buddy oh there
17335s	we go we're back back we're back we're
17337s	gaming now okay um so Sentinel curse
17340s	pretty typical banss I think they're
17342s	banning The Sentinel curse not because
17343s	they're necessarily worried about the um
17346s	tracking disruptors alone but also the
17348s	pairing of strong NES that come out of
17351s	both chips the Loki typical ban and as
17354s	we can see with the formatting because
17356s	both teams banned it towards the end of
17358s	their their ban phase there are no
17360s	duplicates right for the second round of
17361s	bans um so wasted ban kind ofish um the
17366s	Kieran is an interesting one I value the
17368s	Kieran more than I do the Scout Bell I
17370s	think that the additional tank that you
17371s	get from a Kieran is actually more
17373s	useful in a match than the reduced
17376s	signature that the scapel has um so it
17380s	it it just seems kind of like semi-
17382s	typical bands we've seen most of these
17384s	bands over the course of the last two
17385s	days the Kieran is really the only thing
17387s	that stands out here yeah so it looks
17389s	like um I'm just looking at twitch uh
17391s	just now so you guys are predicting as
17392s	well uh we form Volta um have 3.5
17395s	million Channel points to 1 million
17396s	Channel points so people are heavily
17398s	favoring Volta here I'm wondering how
17400s	much of those points that are on goons
17401s	are members of we form Volta so that if
17403s	they lose they can go well least I got
17405s	my channel points I mean yeah that's
17408s	they're going to need some like massive
17410s	massive amounts of if they lose here
17412s	like I think uh starf Commander is in
17414s	this building if he's somewhere if they
17417s	lose to gwor Federation right now I mean
17419s	VTA is a a self-proclaimed uh great
17422s	Alliance tournament team yeah um like in
17426s	theory based on our educated opinions
17429s	they should win this comfortably but you
17431s	know you never know could be opposite
17433s	day could be what color are they oh
17436s	that's a good point uh who knows what
17437s	color they are yeah they're a color
17440s	they're one of the two possib
17441s	and they the winning color or the losing
17443s	color yes yes all right well let's go to
17445s	the re and find out so we form VTA
17447s	versus G Federation here on Alliance
17449s	tournament
17451s	20 welcome back to the arena where we
17454s	have we from vter and goons SW
17457s	Federation on your on your screen we
17459s	from VTA got Dominic Armageddon with a
17461s	zag and two arbitrators what have goons
17463s	SW brought they prob medium gun spam
17466s	pretty much an exact clone of a medium
17468s	gun spam we saw earlier today with uh
17471s	full Navy uh BCS uh with a meran with
17476s	Meridan uh not the exact same thing but
17480s	uh the the full Navy BC uh Vigilant uh
17483s	kind of way interestingly enough also
17484s	went for an exac um typically with
17487s	medium gum span you see a Tech 2 logic
17490s	Cruiser yeah so uh it's going to be a
17492s	little bit more difficult for them to
17494s	work around the captain buffer if Volta
17496s	decide to go for uh a logy trade um I'm
17499s	checking right now to see if these
17501s	Dominic and gon are full n or if they've
17503s	got guns and missile launchers on them I
17506s	mean I think VTA they need to just it's
17509s	going to be a bit of a tough one Planet
17511s	Six in the in the zza is going have a
17512s	bit of a time for him cu the damage
17514s	switching will be quite quick he's going
17515s	have be really on his toes at this point
17518s	um as a match under the way goons swor
17520s	with one point so vter well
17523s	gowor are ahead at the beginning with
17525s	the one point uh drones Dro down no Pro
17528s	taking the damage right now Zer looks to
17530s	be the target for the VTA team um he's
17532s	going to go really low probably a really
17533s	good call T1 logy get it down quick yeah
17536s	and dual Arby from VTA spreading out
17539s	their three tracking computers across
17540s	the high end of goon swarm Federation I
17542s	did check the Armageddon and the dami
17544s	are both full n so this is fully drones
17548s	as far as DPS is concerned from me for
17550s	multi you see the attack bar is a bit
17552s	smaller it should increase as more
17554s	drones get dropped uh but at the same
17556s	time this hyena getting primary by goons
17558s	for Federation that's the exact right
17559s	thing and it's gone the Down K kov one
17563s	down from we from vter and a very
17565s	important ship off the grid the
17566s	application is going to be rela luster
17568s	now the executor is holding on still got
17570s	TP on him right now Zeb in the vexa now
17573s	the primary I think volter need to
17575s	switch targets right now ah this exac
17578s	has local reps and they've got a drone
17580s	blob on top of them uh we see a lot of
17585s	uh bouncers
17587s	infiltrators uh from and a couple light
17590s	armor mainten spot from Volta meanwhile
17592s	it's full DPS drones from uh goon storm
17595s	Federation they don't have any rep Bots
17596s	with this exac but the exac is holding
17598s	on significantly longer than really any
17600s	tech1 logic Cruiser should have this
17602s	Navy Harbinger currently tackled Lord
17605s	Jackson webbed uh padrick in the exac
17609s	Staying Alive meanwhile goon storm
17611s	hasn't really uh been able to get on top
17613s	of anything uh quite yet they got the
17615s	sexor tackled down but he was able to
17616s	get the full spool of his arm rep so
17618s	even though goons have first Blood right
17619s	now they're struggling to kill anything
17621s	from VTA at the present yeah right now
17623s	this gon a th FX in Theon is going to be
17626s	nting out the bruix Navy issue and the
17627s	har Navy issue and the prophecy as well
17629s	so those guns are going to go off the
17631s	longer this goes on for the worse it is
17633s	for the battle cruiser I can tell you
17634s	I've been in that situation you know the
17636s	cap pressure will be immense feat for
17637s	them as the harbinger Navy issue isn't a
17639s	half armor his harders are definitely
17640s	off at this point so so what I will say
17642s	even though the nav radon is a little
17643s	bit of a weird chip it's bit strange
17645s	it's it's it's very strange for medium
17647s	gun spam to have a harb Navy um but the
17650s	rest of the
17651s	pretty much make sense uh I will say
17653s	goorm Federation actually did something
17657s	um did a good thing at the start of the
17659s	match which was take out the hyena um
17662s	that is how you're supposed to play
17663s	medium guns spam so they did execute on
17666s	gun spam at the start of the match but
17668s	they're having trouble right now because
17670s	at the moment they're kind of in an
17671s	allout brawl and they're under the
17674s	threat of these NES from the full noot
17675s	Dy and the full noot genon and these
17677s	tracking disruptors as well and they
17679s	just haven't been able to kill anything
17681s	this Navy harbringer of Lord Jackson
17682s	into low uh structure right now and even
17685s	though this Vex is webbed they've got
17686s	nothing else T tackled they pulled the
17688s	web on the vexer the Z hasn't even had
17690s	to rep anything in a while no I think
17692s	Planet 6 should be okay I think he
17693s	should be sitting quite pretty the the
17695s	truck and disruption is probably doing
17696s	huge and now with that Harbinger down
17698s	that tracking disruption is going to get
17699s	even more Amplified for the Brut Navy sh
17701s	I don't think he's going to be hitting
17702s	much at all this this tournament and
17704s	also the NES are definitely going to be
17706s	more stacked as well yeah and Planet Six
17709s	in that zarm uh boating around right now
17712s	not sure if that's uh AB or mwd fit
17715s	quite yet uh but got webbed uh zarm has
17719s	still a very tanky uh ship with its
17721s	local reps very difficult to kill if you
17724s	don't get on top of it at zero with
17725s	these medium guns uh at the moment this
17728s	Vigilant also in trouble I assume it's
17730s	the Vigilant that's got that zarm webbed
17732s	uh and the Vigilant going down in a low
17735s	armor already the Vigilant is being
17736s	tackled by Annie right now he's right
17738s	next he's right next to the planet six Z
17741s	you going after the zarm if you don't
17742s	have Z the zag is actually chilling he
17745s	is tpd in web right now but it's it's
17747s	only webbed by the amen yeah um they
17750s	need to go after the Vigilant goes down
17752s	they need to kill the omen immediately
17754s	they they absolutely do cuz Planet Six
17756s	is in pretty low armor I just I
17759s	understand getting the initial tackle
17760s	but I feel like the Vigilant should be
17762s	the one who's trying to get that tackle
17763s	on the zarm ass because of the 90% webs
17765s	they would have killed the zast already
17767s	and would have had a much better trade
17769s	uh this time around they are going to
17771s	lose Planet Six in his arm so the points
17773s	are going to favor goons swarm ever so
17775s	slightly it's actually two points for
17777s	Volta my mental math was not mathing but
17780s	uh still uh goonswarm they really really
17784s	got to get on zero on top of people to
17786s	actually do anything at the moment and
17788s	they've only got tax on this vexer
17789s	they're going to go for the vexer now
17791s	but remember the the battleships are
17792s	still going to be applying new pressure
17794s	across all the ships here so I really
17796s	think in the long run I think goons
17798s	going to have a problem applying their
17799s	DPS only be coming from the Navy
17801s	Prophecy in the M the bruck he's going
17804s	to be Ned the whole time and his links
17805s	are going to go off but the OM Navy she
17807s	does go down Ze Zea is about to go down
17809s	in the vexa I still think volter are
17811s	still in the lead here I think they
17814s	definitely are and you know part of the
17816s	execution Bart keeps saying with me and
17819s	gum span sometimes you just got to go in
17821s	Vol VTA does this and then goorm tries
17824s	going in but they go for the logi after
17827s	the hyena do you think VTA potentially
17830s	should have turned maybe on one of these
17832s	BHS I think I think that V losing H that
17837s	early on was a big was a big problem for
17840s	vter um are you talking about should
17843s	goons have gone for one of the I I think
17845s	so yeah yeah they should have gone for
17847s	the battleships now and tried to get
17848s	them down because the mulus is about to
17850s	go down the omen reload mulus goes down
17852s	the ens are going into structure and
17853s	supreme lead M from the last match
17855s	earlier today held on really long for a
17857s	long time so I think if he can just hold
17858s	on for a long time wasting much damage
17860s	as possible Omen goes down I really
17862s	think the NES are really having a mass
17864s	basically I think the brut's Navy sh is
17866s	not doing anything anymore yeah I mean
17868s	we look at the attack bar goor
17869s	Federation started with a larger attack
17871s	bar this time around even the red part's
17872s	a bit larger they're applying a bit more
17874s	damage at the moment the great part
17876s	Volta is now firmly in the lead just
17877s	purely with drones we see uh another
17880s	ship deleted and uh it's this merer this
17884s	Navy bruck this name this prophecy all
17887s	just having a very rough time of getting
17889s	on top of any Target that is not tackled
17892s	I think you're right they should have
17893s	gone for these battleships I mean the
17895s	the two arbitrators icon and no proo
17897s	they doing immense job just getting
17899s	removing the I mean b yeah the bruix is
17900s	Ted out and they're just focusing the
17902s	NES on the m and the prophecy Navy issue
17904s	exra going to structure and with that I
17905s	think that it secures volage victory
17909s	yeah uh you can breathe a little bit
17911s	easier now happy about you can breathe a
17913s	little bit easier now W Prime PR ship
17915s	and I'm being I'm being impartial
17917s	obviously this is how it is but as a bit
17919s	as a part of me it's like okay guys we
17922s	keep it together we got this I mean
17925s	there would have been I think some
17928s	questions I would no C would have come
17931s	in here with another L and I would have
17933s	got in my forehead
17935s	R and stey about to go down though in
17937s	the Magus but the bruix Navy issue in
17939s	half armor he'll be really easy to kill
17941s	his harders are definitely off but I
17943s	think th and and Annie in the
17944s	battleships could definitely clean up
17946s	the rest of the of the of the um goons
17948s	swor team so so we already talking about
17950s	what go form could have done differently
17951s	in this match uh potentially to to make
17954s	the best out of the situation talk a
17956s	little about what VTA has done to
17958s	capitalize on goor here I actually think
17960s	that gor's first choice of Target was
17963s	perfect yes it was get rid of the Hena
17964s	and I was a bit like that's terrible
17966s	that's the worst thing can happen on on
17968s	your on volter team because K one and
17970s	Hina he's a Lynch pin of the application
17973s	and the webbing and also screening as
17974s	well if they need to I think if goons
17976s	swam I mean it's a bit of a problem
17978s	really because you look at the comp and
17980s	you think lots of NES lots of TDS the
17982s	longer the game goes on the worse it's
17983s	going to be for us so you have to either
17985s	get the arbitrators down just like like
17987s	literally as you said just rush in and
17989s	just kill stuff as as fast as possible I
17992s	think because they have the the more DPS
17995s	uh goom in terms of like immediate
17996s	damage so I think if they probably just
17998s	have to gamble and go in yeah uh and we
18002s	from VTA I mean taking advantage of uh
18004s	some less practiced uh goons swor
18007s	members obviously uh goons swor is
18009s	rather a large Alliance but the German
18010s	team has a lot of turnover yeah I mean
18012s	goon's still taking down a bunch of
18013s	ships I mean we can't we can't deny that
18015s	that it's they' they managed to get the
18016s	Z Down The Omen basically the MVP for
18019s	gonor getting the web on the zamad I
18022s	think the Vigilant got hard hard tackled
18024s	quite early on so I think he got Annie
18026s	went straight for him but Annie still
18027s	taking still a lot of damage on grid and
18029s	the Navy Prof Navy putting Annie into a
18032s	bit of armor but obviously he's got a
18033s	local tank but I think um volter doing a
18036s	good job like not getting you know when
18038s	you lose ships in the match you kind of
18040s	get bit worried so I think keeping it
18042s	you know calm and and trying to find a
18044s	break in the in the go set yeah uh just
18047s	well played by Volta obviously and gwor
18050s	this is their best showing in the at in
18053s	a very long time they get a win versus
18056s	pandemic qu and uh that of course gives
18058s	them bragging rights on TQ uh they
18062s	unfortunately bragging rights hey hey
18064s	heyy hey you know the the side that was
18068s	on the B2 side of the B2 War took out uh
18072s	pandemic hord so you know we're totally
18074s	okay with that right right you and may
18076s	we're okay with that I think so yeah
18078s	although my voter just took out goons
18080s	from the tournament as well I mean I
18082s	mean yeah they're no longer blue it's
18083s	fine good but either way you know goons
18087s	making their best showing in a long time
18089s	in the tournament uh well played to them
18091s	Unfortunately they will not be PRI
18092s	shipping joers unfortunately for you uh
18095s	Volta will of course be prior ship
18097s	enjoyers we'll see them later on in the
18099s	lower bracket them quite a while to chew
18101s	through the rest of the go for comp 10
18103s	seconds left hopefully they can get this
18105s	Navy prophecy down so the desk has a
18107s	little bit more time uh to analyze that
18110s	we're going to send it to a quick break
18111s	when we return the desk will break that
18113s	match down and bring us into the next
18116s	match we form VTA continues the skin run
18120s	um I I didn't catch the match um and
18122s	Starfleet Commander told me that it was
18124s	a cam composed collected easy Victory
18127s	straight from uh from we VTA uh Mr Kite
18131s	how did you enjoy that match I thought
18133s	it was uh an excellent match um sadly
18135s	didn't go the way that I would have
18137s	wanted it to go you know I would have
18138s	loved to have seen the uh the bees take
18141s	out another team um I do actually think
18143s	that
18144s	goons had the win in the bag um at one
18148s	point I think they fumbled the bag a
18150s	little bit um just too much to hold on
18153s	to you know no one was there on the grid
18155s	telling them what to do so they were all
18156s	confused bumbling about once the an died
18159s	they were in trouble yes exactly just
18160s	bumbling around the grid um I think that
18163s	they should have all in on the Dominic
18165s	and then the Armageddon I think by
18167s	removing those two ships you basically
18169s	remove most of the damage coming out of
18171s	the other team um vter would have had a
18173s	couple vexas a couple of arbitrators
18175s	left which isn't really going to be able
18177s	to burn through the rest of your comp um
18179s	so if goons had played it properly I
18181s	think that we would see them advancing
18183s	in the tournament yeah I mean honestly
18185s	um I've seen good play in a bunch of
18188s	matches over the years like although
18190s	they haven't historically done overly
18192s	well they have played and a bunch of
18193s	them they have some experienced people
18195s	and some good theat crafters and they
18197s	they flew great there um like shout out
18199s	to the entire goor Federation team uh
18202s	Volta is a tough tough uh team to beat
18205s	um and they really give them a run for
18207s	their money um I'm absolutely certain
18210s	that uh the Volta guys would have been
18212s	in full squeaky bum mode in that match
18213s	because like they really got pushed
18216s	against the wall by gwor there staffle
18218s	was nervous Ling at one point I I I was
18220s	crouched down in front of the TV to
18221s	check it out and he was just staring and
18223s	just laughing to himself a little bit it
18225s	was good yeah so yeah excellent but
18227s	unfortunately that was an elimination
18228s	match so gsor Federation as is tradition
18231s	is now eliminated from Alliance
18233s	tournament 20 uh we thank you for your
18235s	your participation um Volta continues
18238s	they get some skins now so they can
18239s	start to offset some of that uh that bar
18241s	guest loss from earlier on uh they're
18243s	going to need a few more wins to to
18245s	Really offset it uh but you know down
18248s	but not out okay so we still have have a
18250s	couple more elimination matches to go
18251s	today U and this next one should be
18253s	interesting it's white squall versus
18255s	slow children at play so let's take a
18258s	look at the bands for this white squall
18260s	choosing to Banner the EOS the
18261s	Armageddon the Blackbird and the curse
18264s	and this is think the third time we've
18265s	seen a blackbird band but I don't think
18266s	we've actually seen it fielded yet um
18268s	and the Soul at play Banning out the
18270s	pontif effect Omas the slip far uh
18273s	excellent job by the way uh on that one
18276s	and the Loki um mystical M your thoughts
18279s	on these bands whoever came up with the
18282s	bands excellent work uh production team
18285s	does that mean the slep near is
18287s	available yes I think so yeah I think
18289s	that is exactly how it goes they could
18290s	run gush if they wanted to they could
18292s	which is gun rush so what happens if you
18294s	have a slep far and then you approach it
18297s	does it become a slep
18300s	near and what if the ban then cuz if you
18302s	ban the S far and you really far away
18306s	from the S near and it becomes a SL far
18307s	does it just get deleted like how does
18308s	this work would you rather fight one
18310s	full size slep or 10 slep far size s are
18314s	they f with artillery or autoc cannons H
18317s	they're slep far is probably probably
18320s	artillery yeah probably the S then yeah
18323s	okay I was going to say to actually
18326s	comment on the band uh the Blackbird ban
18329s	is a fairly interesting one I think I
18331s	don't think we've really seen much ECM
18333s	in the tournament at all uh people
18335s	favoring the more reliable um ew War
18338s	setups using track and disruptors
18340s	presence disruptors and damps because
18342s	they will apply all of the time instead
18343s	of kind of being a dice roll um some
18346s	people get really unlucky in dice rolls
18347s	I would know uh other people get really
18350s	lucky in dice rolls my opponents would
18351s	know U as we found out in previous
18354s	previous tournaments I think that it's
18357s	interesting to see white scull Banning
18359s	the Blackbird here maybe it's something
18360s	that they've found has been really
18362s	effective against some of their comps in
18363s	practice uh it might be because they are
18365s	going to stack most of their damage into
18367s	a few select ships and they don't want
18370s	them to be um both screened off and then
18373s	jammed out so they can't actually do
18374s	anything to to clear that tackle um
18377s	that's the only real reason I could see
18378s	them Banning the black bird yeah I think
18381s	both these teams unless I'm mistaken
18382s	here have their flagships available as
18384s	well um white squa went up against truth
18386s	on a light earlier on uh and and lost in
18388s	a another pretty like intense match like
18391s	we've had a couple of these like team a
18393s	should win against Team B type matches
18396s	uh VTA goons is another example um and
18398s	the team that was sort of I guess
18400s	expected to lose did lose but really
18402s	made it difficult for the expected
18404s	winners now you could say is this just
18407s	like a a general increase in quality in
18409s	the tournament and I think generally I
18410s	think it probably is uh because uh we
18412s	continuously see more like better teams
18415s	getting better and better and better
18416s	especially with the new feeders format
18419s	uh previously you could like Buy in and
18421s	now you can't do that so teams have had
18422s	to like work their way through into uh
18425s	into the tournament by at least having
18427s	some level of basic competency it's like
18429s	a like a little check to make sure that
18431s	you're not completely bad at the game
18433s	you're sort of at least mediocre at
18436s	best yeah yeah they get filtered now
18438s	honestly like there's a lot of uh lot of
18440s	ancient old decrepit horrible uh maybe
18445s	Legions of them teams that just don't
18447s	make it anymore and there's a reason for
18449s	it you know it's the feeders are amazing
18451s	the games we've had since we started
18453s	doing these like rough feeders that I
18454s	mean we I read the eve tournament
18457s	General chat the amount of apologies oh
18461s	yeah no it's great it's great hope you
18462s	recover H yeah I don't know we'll see
18465s	but the the amount of crying in that
18468s	chat about the feeders for years every
18471s	year someone's like oh it's not fair
18473s	this this format was terrible for me and
18474s	it's like well you know you could have
18477s	just won like at the end of the day you
18480s	know how it's the same way how do you
18481s	win the at well you beat the other teams
18482s	how you get through the feeders but
18483s	people be like well you know this
18485s	specific format that we did was super
18487s	toxic to my specific team because of
18489s	this and you're just like come on bro
18490s	like I feel like the way to annoy
18493s	tournament enjoying even online players
18495s	the most is to Simply have a tournament
18497s	yeah the existence of a tournament um is
18499s	just Riles them up into such rage uh
18502s	that you know this is where we end up so
18504s	you're welcome guys but if you don't
18506s	have a tournament then oh yeah Shing of
18510s	tournament yeah was my favorite was when
18511s	they're like they complain when they're
18513s	like oh well this one it was too close
18514s	to the summer uh how will I go outside
18517s	and you're like do you really though
18520s	well you know I I don't think it I don't
18523s	know about that one guys yeah you know
18527s	so toxic I mean yeah but that's what
18529s	we're here for uh let's do predictions
18531s	white squall welcome back to the the
18533s	bisty show white squall versus slow
18535s	children at play um I'm asking both of
18538s	the besties um what we'll start with the
18541s	isty part of bti uh which which are you
18543s	going to predict here which SC SL J to
18544s	play slow I guess that just makes you
18548s	just B
18551s	yeah
18553s	um he got all the letter yeah I yeah uh
18557s	no I'm GNA I'm going to predict uh you
18559s	predicted slow yeah really yeah but you
18562s	don't pay attention no surprised I
18565s	thought he was I thought he was going to
18566s	go the other way
18568s	no slow slow well I mean most of my
18571s	letters said slow so I'm guess I'm going
18572s	with slow as well I'm going to see what
18574s	twitch chat uh in their Infinite Wisdom
18576s	which team is
18577s	red keep forgetting about that uh twitch
18580s	chat believes in white squall and you
18582s	know what guys are always right I'm
18583s	going to go for white squall as well so
18585s	let's just throw this one straight to
18586s	the arena and find out who will win
18587s	between these two
18590s	teams welcome back to the arena my name
18592s	is Fier joined by the ever lovely star
18595s	fleet commander and we are getting ready
18597s	to go on the red side we have white
18598s	skull who have brought Shield medium gun
18600s	spam what if Slow Children Play SL
18602s	children have gone for a shield but with
18604s	missiles a big bargus and three offices
18607s	and an ospre Cary stalk by us I like
18610s	well this going be interesting because
18611s	you got one team that has got the
18613s	projection quickly a quick well both
18615s	teams are projecting but one is
18617s	immediate basically in terms of damage
18619s	so I'm going to be really interesting as
18620s	we always see with medium rail spam
18623s	white SC have you know they got to make
18625s	their target quickly at the beginning
18627s	yeah and uh just double cheing these
18630s	weapon systems right now uh that is uh
18634s	looks to be rapid lights on these
18637s	orthoses and not hmls so would mean you
18640s	know your your
18642s	typical uh setup with these which means
18645s	High burst from both the orres and the
18647s	barest but still has that long reload
18649s	time that's said the orthis since
18651s	they're using frot sized weapons are
18653s	going to apply perfectly to the low end
18654s	of white skull unfortunately for them
18656s	the only frigs for wh Squall are the
18658s	burst and the bantom yeah I think I
18659s	think wh s are probably going to try and
18661s	go for maybe one they could go for the
18663s	ospray immediately which is what they're
18665s	going to do TP on him right now look at
18666s	those damps I think that's a good the
18668s	damps come out immediately as well I
18670s	think the ospre is the right core and I
18671s	think they definitely need to just go
18673s	straight in yeah these uh triple damps
18675s	on all three Navy foxes and correctly
18677s	identifying really what the threat is
18679s	and going for the fleet hurricane who uh
18681s	can't really uh do a whole lot in terms
18685s	of uh getting away from slow play at the
18688s	moment is the fastest of the BCS that
18690s	are brought but right off the match uh
18692s	Bargas have insane amount of range with
18694s	rapid Heavies especially if you're not
18696s	uh getting any sort of uh control on
18699s	them and as I said say that the jackar
18700s	Falls jackar dies for slow Bantam into
18702s	armor but recovering back next to the
18704s	burst Mo Freeman did survive cuz he did
18707s	just burn away out of the the range of
18708s	the of the rapid lights Jack doll now
18711s	being shot as well I mean I think wh
18713s	School wh school just going to be trying
18715s	to clear as much off as possible you can
18716s	see on your screen that that the the
18718s	rest of the battle Cruisers continued on
18720s	in whilst moar went away Shield Navy
18723s	though get mean I'm not surprised the
18725s	the Osprey completely just evaporates as
18727s	well so a huge win for um wh school to
18730s	get the L down yeah so even though these
18732s	damps had been put out by slow play wh
18735s	score made the correct call here they
18737s	just burned in because slow children at
18738s	play out project white squall in every
18740s	single part of this map so just load
18741s	short range ammo you're going to be
18743s	getting in and very fast and uh they B
18747s	away with the fleet hurricane now it's
18748s	getting reps this MOA getting some
18750s	damage right now but they're right on
18751s	top of this barest who is melting quite
18754s	rapidly completely just wailing on him
18756s	right now and that is the right call
18758s	they've got rid of the ospr just go for
18760s	the battleship and get rid of him right
18761s	now yeah exactly and um kind of to this
18765s	thing right so this is the second time
18766s	today that we've seen Bargas Shields
18771s	K that is true I we don't talk about the
18773s	other one though we don't talk about any
18774s	flag Bargas that's that's not true okay
18778s	okay so so so uh I'm jumping the gun a
18780s	little bit here because uh white squall
18782s	are snowballing this and they're getting
18784s	a lot of damage in very quickly on these
18786s	targets they killed the Jack dolls
18788s	that's yeah uh one of the things that
18790s	can kill their Lodi uh don't really care
18792s	about the orthoses Cu uh ospre goes down
18795s	and they go for the barest so uh white
18797s	squall making quick work of slow play
18800s	who just could not out kite the what
18803s	turned into Shield rush and and also Mo
18806s	Freeman doing a really fantastic job of
18807s	just wasting time when you have Clips um
18810s	in in your rapid lights like he burnt
18812s	away to just mitigate as much Dage as
18814s	possible and wasting that that damage
18816s	because if he doesn't do that he would
18818s	have died immediately and then would
18819s	have been a completely different game
18821s	game first off goes down I mean I think
18823s	white school just played this really
18824s	well the restling pushed in while mo mo
18826s	Freeman went back uh to go back to the
18828s	logifix to get the Reps but I'm just
18830s	trying to think could have slow children
18832s	played differently maybe gone for maybe
18835s	just went for and immediately switch or
18837s	you could you could fake battle cruiser
18838s	to go back and then put all your DPS on
18840s	one of the FES maybe well so I think
18843s	part of the thing here right is you pick
18845s	orthoses they're going to be rapid light
18846s	fit more often than not can fit hmls to
18850s	them more often they're going to be R
18851s	light fit rabid lights are really good
18853s	at killing things that are destroyer and
18854s	fr sized uh they run into the same
18857s	problems as rapid Heavies when they
18859s	start killing things that are Cruiser or
18861s	battle cruiser size because they are the
18864s	weapon system of the thing down and
18866s	therefore uh the drawback is that long
18868s	reload time and so what we saw here was
18870s	they were almost able to take down that
18872s	Fleet hurricane he burns away gets to
18874s	the brist and bantom now they're going
18876s	to this Navy exac and they can barely
18878s	break them but after that they just
18880s	don't have a whole lot left in the tank
18882s	and the barest ends up uh falling
18884s	because white squall did what they
18885s	needed to do right you lose out long
18887s	range rush in with the comp Bart will be
18889s	very happy that they chose to do that
18893s	you should in this scenario you should
18895s	just go in there's no point in being
18897s	like defensive or anything get your
18899s	damage in really quickly B Force going
18901s	to go down and your at the same time and
18903s	congratulations to white school and
18904s	we're going to go to a little break and
18905s	then back to the
18907s	desk the comfortable Victory continuing
18910s	their run in the lower bracket of
18912s	Alliance tournament 20 I'm CCP Overlord
18914s	welcome back to the bti show guys talk
18916s	to me about that
18919s	match isty yes I'll take isty first oh
18921s	okay hello uh yeah it was uh I thought
18925s	slow had it slow should have had it when
18928s	well okay fine fine B sorry B seems to
18933s	believe that the slow team wasn't built
18936s	in a way they were built different but
18939s	in theong way yes basically buil built a
18941s	horribly malformed and evil and needed
18943s	to be put down I thought the far guest
18945s	and arthes would be able to kite just
18947s	long enough to be able to lower the
18949s	damage on the other team uh and
18952s	unfortunately that was not the case um
18955s	yeah they just fell apart immediately
18957s	slow actually did a very good job of
18959s	swapping targets so the hurricane Fleet
18961s	issue burned away the Navy exac was
18963s	burning in so they correctly swapped to
18964s	the Navy XX really quickly to get rid of
18966s	some additional DPS on the grid um it
18969s	immediately fell apart because it's a
18970s	shield tanked Navy
18971s	exe but unfortunately in that time frame
18975s	they also traded both track doors and
18977s	Osprey and then began to lose their core
18980s	so uh it it was just well piloted
18983s	um like Shield Rush basically or like
18986s	Shield gun spam kite is
18989s	Rush nice Snappy name is there it is a
18991s	less Snappy name but it's an accurate
18993s	description so and what what do you
18996s	think yeah I I mean so first off the
18998s	only reason I said slow in the first
19001s	place because I had to contractually as
19003s	team bisty um but uh second yeah I mean
19007s	there's a reason why we don't see rapid
19010s	light based Shield kite setups anymore
19013s	and a lot of that is because that uh you
19016s	know previously back in the day when you
19017s	could take a jackdaw with its you know
19019s	plethora of mids slots and put a bunch
19021s	of tracking disruptors in it you could
19023s	fly that setup and have all of your
19024s	ships with their abundance of mids slots
19026s	have tracking disruptors and make it so
19027s	that the other team couldn't snipe you
19029s	from the same range you're shooting them
19031s	uh you can't do that anymore um due to a
19033s	lot of tiar by certain Alliance teams
19036s	and also us just being like yeah maybe
19038s	this is kind of silly
19040s	um but there's a reason why we don't see
19042s	it and is because all you have to do to
19043s	counter it is bring guns that hit as far
19045s	as their missiles hit you because at the
19047s	end of the day like you know a Navy Fox
19050s	is pretty tanky and orthus is not when
19053s	you're in the alliance tournament and
19055s	your entire
19056s	um game plan is to stay away from from
19059s	the enemy it's a lot harder than on TQ
19062s	where you know you can have uh you know
19064s	your snake pods and your 12 billion isk
19067s	nightmares with Abyssal out everything
19068s	and just go in a straight line and be
19070s	like aha chase us and we'll shoot you
19072s	they have a big sphere they have to play
19073s	in so they can't really kite as well if
19076s	the opponent like you can't get far
19077s	enough away from them not to hit you and
19079s	we saw it there is like the amount of
19081s	damage that slow put out was good white
19086s	squall did more they applied more and
19088s	they just blew them up yeah that is a
19090s	really good tactic for uh Alliance
19092s	tournament is apply more damage than
19094s	than your enemies uh especially if you
19096s	do it faster yes doesn't really matter
19097s	if you do it in like 25 minutes because
19099s	ain't no one got time for that so we're
19101s	going to have to do it much quicker um
19103s	so I want to talk a little bit about the
19105s	prize ships for this year um I just
19108s	assume someone else in the building has
19110s	made a graphic for this so I'm just
19111s	going to start talking as if there's
19112s	going to be a graphic and one might come
19113s	up uh but this is the first time in a
19116s	long time that we have Alliance
19118s	tournament PRI
19120s	battleships which I think is pretty cool
19122s	um so obviously this tournament is
19123s	sponsored by gista it was hijacked off
19126s	of Concord so we have our three hulls uh
19128s	one based on top of the pacifer one on
19131s	top of the uh the monitor Hull and then
19133s	one on top of the uh Black Ops
19135s	Battleship whose name I figured Marshall
19137s	Marshall that's the one good old
19139s	Marshall um and this is like I say the
19141s	first time in almost 20 years Bart 20
19144s	years Alliance T battleships yeah that's
19147s	crazy this is wild yeah it's um
19149s	I don't um I I know stats exist for them
19153s	I don't think we've talked about it yet
19154s	are they a public um there's fully
19156s	public yeah I think they're on Reddit
19158s	yeah okay cool I I was going to say you
19160s	know it's one of those things where like
19161s	you start kind of being like okay is
19162s	this something we're allowed to talk
19163s	about or not or what is yeah well
19165s	they're broken they're insane yeah and
19168s	uh also they're going to be very very
19170s	very very very very expensive so uh I
19172s	loved when the Marshall came out um I
19174s	was a big black ops enjoyer uh Marshalls
19177s	are cool this is going to be like like I
19180s	I'm just I'm so excited to watch
19182s	somebody take this get baited by procure
19185s	that they're blops on because they
19186s	having fun and then lose like a 500
19188s	billion isk Battleship
19190s	just it's going to be like probably like
19192s	a day after that the contracts go out
19194s	too somebody all right let's go yeah yes
19197s	contracts but no they're they're they're
19198s	incredible ships um it's really cool I
19201s	love that it's a Black Ops so I think
19203s	we're going to see people using them in
19206s	probably a lot more because it's harder
19208s	for you to like you you can people be
19210s	trying to fish them people will be
19211s	dropping supers on them they'll be being
19213s	dropped on supers it's you know ratting
19215s	carriers it's going to be crazy BL the
19217s	Black Ops is super fun you never done it
19218s	an Eve online GO train it this is going
19221s	to be great and the ship is like broken
19223s	yeah it's so much damage I feel like
19224s	Black Ops is one of those parts of the
19225s	game where it's like an hour and a half
19229s	of nothing waiting and then like 10
19233s	seconds of exciting chaos and afterward
19235s	you're like that was a great use of my
19236s	time I had a great time and I would do
19238s	it again yeah no I mean people do it and
19239s	they'll just be like what'd you do like
19242s	oh I I killed the procure but I had
19245s	super like have so much fun doing like
19247s	me and 20 of my best friends took
19249s	billions and billions of es worth of
19251s	ships spent more than the enemy ships
19253s	that died in fuel alone yep but we had
19256s	fun and that's what matters and the
19257s	amount of like effort that you had to do
19258s	to make it happen too you know
19260s	somebody's just sitting there like I'm
19261s	having fun with my game and you're like
19262s	we've been hunting him for 3 hours it's
19264s	like he's just been in the same spot
19266s	you're like but you don't know what we
19267s	had to do to get here so I've
19269s	experienced that myself when you're like
19270s	sitting on one side of a wormhole
19272s	connection with the scarr leg he's like
19274s	not yet guys wait and then like an hour
19276s	later you're like he's almost there he's
19278s	like okay and then another hour passes
19279s	she
19280s	like anything and then like he doed up
19283s	okay yeah at least we got a you know
19285s	what it's the best best uh best ship is
19287s	friendship you got to hang out with your
19288s	friends so that is true but the ships
19291s	are called the side Winder which is the
19292s	frot the Cobra which is the cruiser and
19294s	the python which is the battleship and
19296s	there are hundreds of these ships been
19297s	giving out they've been going to be
19299s	given out in this tournament all the way
19301s	down to uh the top anyone in top 16
19304s	right this is something we introduced in
19305s	Alliance tournament 17 uh it was no
19307s	longer just top three four teams that
19309s	got ships um and it was no longer just
19311s	50 of each total it is like just
19314s	hundreds hundred 100s in fact it says
19316s	here
19317s	385 ships will be given out and the
19320s	winning team will get 40 side winders 40
19321s	cobras and 20 pythons and this scales
19324s	down uh in quite a quite a fair way down
19326s	to top 16 uh so you get get two side
19329s	renders two cobras and a python so
19331s	anyone who makes top 16 in Alliance
19333s	tournament 20 is going to go home with
19334s	at least one Alliance tournament
19336s	Battleship for their team um it if you
19339s	want to steal that and take it for
19340s	yourself Mr Alliance executiv you're
19342s	more than welcome to that's how we game
19344s	here um but I also think that the ah
19346s	here we go we have some cool graphics
19348s	now so check this out someone went
19350s	absolutely ham with a paintbrush on
19353s	these ships so that is The Sidewinder
19354s	it's a cover Ops frig uh so it can do
19356s	all the normal cover Ops frig stuff also
19359s	having a bunch of gista bonuses and
19362s	let's be fair it looks pretty godamn
19364s	cool as well um the uh Cobra I'm
19368s	actually really looking forward to that
19369s	one I think it's going to be super
19371s	exciting it has um extra bonuses uh to
19375s	uh be able to fit the micro jump drive
19377s	so this is a cruiser with a micro jump
19378s	drive and because it is a Recon you can
19381s	lock out super far away so there is
19384s	absolute maximum meane potential with
19386s	this thing you can just lock someone up
19387s	from 115 km away micro jump on top of
19390s	them shoot some stuff jump away again
19392s	it's going to be some some absolute Giga
19395s	gaming going on with these things and
19397s	then of course there is the the
19399s	battleship the python itself um I just
19402s	think it looks phenomenal and I think
19404s	like you say it's going to be a bunch of
19406s	people sitting in these fancy Black Ops
19407s	ships getting ready to just drop on all
19409s	their friends and I just love the I just
19413s	love the look of them I think they look
19414s	fantastic yeah it's like a uh it's like
19417s	a big shark that's covering graffi
19419s	yeah but like in a good way I feel like
19421s	Concord are watching this and just
19423s	getting more and more annoyed what have
19425s	you done what have you done to our ships
19427s	yeah they were like we're going to host
19429s	our own Alliance tournament we're
19430s	Concord and then it got just yed out
19432s	from underneath them um uh by the G's
19435s	Pirates so uh super exciting all right
19438s	let's look forward to our next match
19439s	which is again another elimination match
19441s	this one is going to be between root
19443s	Capel and unspoken Alliance so let's
19445s	take a quick look at the bans for this
19447s	so rot Capel Banning the mollus the Loki
19450s	the Nighthawk and Zar she blows uh
19453s	excellent good job eight out of 10
19455s	unspoken Alliance spanning out the EOS
19457s	the orthus the Deacon and the BRK Navy
19460s	issue Bisal might what do you think
19463s	about this which one of
19466s	us I don't know about that one right
19469s	there um I would
19472s	say Okay so the Loki and the Nighthawk
19475s	band seem to be trying to get rid of
19477s	some of the ham Rush that we used to um
19480s	I think that the BRX Navy issue ban is
19484s	probably the more interesting one of all
19485s	the ones listed mainly because it's
19487s	taking away one of the core ships that
19489s	we often see in the armor rail um spam
19492s	comps and the brick Navy issue is
19494s	actually a really good point efficient
19496s	ship for what it does which is a
19498s	buttload of damage out to range um I do
19501s	think it's kind of strange to see an
19502s	author ban I think the auth ban is
19504s	probably the only one on there that I
19505s	would count as kind of like out of place
19507s	considering the fact that the author
19509s	hasn't really been incredibly strong in
19511s	any comp that we've seen we saw we've
19513s	seen it in the last match and it kind of
19516s	fell apart CU It's Paper yeah they fed
19518s	yeah so it's it feels like a bit of a
19520s	waste of ban but there may be some
19522s	practice that went on in the background
19524s	that gave away some of the idea about
19525s	like maybe it's meta that was developed
19527s	internally between the two teams and
19529s	they know that Rell has a strong comp
19532s	that utilizes the orthus and it's hard
19534s	to replace it so they want to get rid of
19536s	that comp that's as I'm reaching right
19539s	I'm guessing but why else would you ban
19541s	the orthus yeah I feel I feel like we
19544s	have seen maybe an orthus ban or two
19546s	before but it's always been in the
19547s	second phase of banning as opposed to
19549s	the first phase I think you're mostly
19551s	right on this when you say uh like it's
19552s	a strange bat uh B any any other
19554s	thoughts on these bands here no I mean
19556s	not not on these specific bands but on
19558s	just bands in general is that I think um
19560s	you know uh isty definitely got on a
19565s	really good point there is that we when
19567s	we're seeing teams ban ship they're not
19569s	necessarily because they're good ships
19570s	they're because they're ones that they
19572s	think they will have trouble with which
19574s	generally is due to their practice and
19576s	people usually very rarely nowadays
19578s	people do internal practices cuz like
19581s	you know if you can if you can afford to
19582s	get enough people to do it it's great
19584s	but you'll always have a B team and an a
19586s	team so you still want to go out and see
19588s	what other teams are doing and so I
19589s	think that you know he's completely
19590s	correct unspoken whoever they were
19593s	practicing with they were getting just
19594s	shellacked by orthis and they're just
19596s	kind of like H yeah we don't know how to
19597s	counter this
19599s	does that mean rot knows how to use them
19601s	no does that mean this is a good way to
19603s	do it probably not honestly I think that
19605s	you should not be banning things that
19606s	like you shouldn't be looking at an
19607s	individual ship and saying this is hard
19610s	for us to beat you should be trying to
19612s	ban them into picking something that you
19614s	can beat personal opinion but hey I mean
19617s	what do I know right I just I just come
19619s	up here I don't even you're just a a
19621s	yapper yeah I'm a yapper I am one who
19623s	yaps so yes uh I also find the bricks
19625s	Navy an interesting ban I think it's
19629s	if you're trying to get rid of like
19630s	medium gun spam with battle Cruisers I
19632s	think there's more effective ships to
19633s	ban uh Misty what would you ban instead
19636s	of a brck Navy for example I think if
19639s	you're trying to get rid of the medium
19640s	gun spam I don't know br's Navy seems
19643s	like a decent ban to me um you might
19645s	want to go for uh Navy Harbinger perhaps
19649s	um those are really the the two main
19651s	bands the estar is kind of easily
19652s	replaceable with an Absolution at that
19654s	same level and point cost uh but the
19656s	Navy brucks Navy harbinger don't really
19659s	have other counterparts that you can
19660s	bring you can bring like a Navy prophecy
19661s	but it's not quite the same it does have
19663s	an optimal range bonus I believe um so
19665s	it makes it decent but it's also I think
19667s	a fair bit slower than the Navy bruix
19669s	and the Navy Harbinger um alternatively
19672s	you have the Navy or the fleet hurricane
19674s	not the same at all I I would not
19676s	suggest bringing artilleries in your um
19680s	gun rushes because um it it's just it
19683s	does not have the same effect y um I
19685s	mean let's do a couple of predictions
19686s	now Rock Capel uh We've long said
19688s	they're kind of a defender of the upper
19689s	bracket uh some might even say
19691s	aggressively mid-tier um are they still
19694s	aggressively mid- tier we're in the
19695s	elimination bracket here Bart yeah I I
19697s	feel like honestly they're playing
19699s	pretty dang well um like I said the team
19702s	everybody's gotten way better so they
19703s	used to be if you can beat them good and
19706s	if you can't beat them it's like oh
19707s	that's expected but now like I I feel
19708s	like rach's been doing very well I agree
19711s	personally so I I'm going to predict for
19712s	them okay because also you know I mean
19714s	come on Twitch chat oh yeah what does
19716s	twitch chat say I almost forgot to check
19718s	with the ultimate source of Truth in all
19720s	that is right in the world uh they say
19722s	Ro Capel as well all right all right so
19724s	and root are bringing their flag
19725s	Armageddon Navy issue uh so this should
19728s	be interesting all right let's hand it
19729s	over to the arena and see who wins this
19731s	match in Alliance tournament
19735s	20 hello I am moderator joined by Oli
19738s	Aris for what should be a very very
19739s	exciting match so unspoken they have
19742s	brought what we're going to call the
19743s	Florida man rush so alligator sleer
19746s	coming from the depths and the swamps
19748s	and they're to try to take a bite out of
19750s	rapel especially that Flagship Navy
19752s	Armageddon flown by KH yeah and rapel
19755s	they have a control comp uh featuring
19759s	that Flagship Armageddon Navy the double
19761s	arbitrator for the tracking disrupture
19763s	and disruption and guidance disruption
19765s	normally I would say Okay mixed weapon
19768s	systems tracking disruptors guidance
19770s	disruptors not a great shot however
19772s	guidance disrupting an alligator or a
19774s	gila isn't the best place these tracking
19777s	disrupting the sers they're a see who
19779s	cares they wanted to get at zero anyway
19781s	and most likely unspoken is going to be
19783s	going top down meanwhile rot Capel
19786s	they've got to find a way to get onto
19787s	those bombers and stem the bleeding yeah
19790s	so I mean if you have a hand in a
19791s	purifier I'm thinking that's like 600
19793s	damage nearly free to be pumping onto
19796s	that Navy Armageddon but there are two
19798s	arbitrators and what they really want to
19800s	do here is start you know applying those
19802s	GDs but already we see that the
19805s	Armageddon is being painted and I don't
19807s	see any guidance disruption I see one
19809s	now on the alligator another on the
19810s	alligator uh that will be some of the
19812s	heavy um assault missile damage
19814s	mitigated but the alligators aren't even
19816s	in range to ply just yet yeah and arm
19819s	alligators they also have their drones
19821s	their drones are important too and
19822s	before the match mod you were talking
19824s	about the ishar and the role that this
19825s	ishar might play in taking out those
19828s	bombers unspoken Alliance recognizing
19830s	that are also shooting the isher yeah I
19833s	mean the ishar though so far hasn't
19835s	really you know committed to anything
19838s	and speaking of committing we're seeing
19839s	a lot of heavy drones being committed
19841s	onto this hila of orange 0401 and so far
19845s	the heila is making I think the correct
19847s	call and kind of um pulling away and so
19851s	far with these heavy drones uh being
19853s	deployed by rot they're not going to
19854s	really be able to punch into these
19856s	bursts or to at maybe the purifier we
19859s	see the purifier taking some chip damage
19861s	here getting nuded out but I mean the
19863s	ishar getting scrammed it seems like the
19865s	ishar is kind of committing onto the
19866s	backline you were mentioning that the
19868s	the isher it can do a lot but it can't
19870s	int and speaking of inting it is getting
19872s	really low
19873s	here that's right mod this purifier it
19876s	is a shield purifier this is a shield
19878s	comp and we're seeing unspoken play this
19879s	comp very similarly to how they played
19881s	it earlier today they're not hard
19884s	committing they're not going in when
19885s	they don't need to they're staying a
19887s	little bit back they're circling around
19888s	they're looking for their opportunity
19890s	and purifier is saved meanwhile damage
19893s	still going onto that armag again yeah
19895s	and I mean critically the isher it seems
19896s	like they were able to pop their ADC and
19898s	then they were able to Pivot back
19899s	towards the um you know those logi
19902s	support in the Thalia here and I mean
19905s	critically the Deacon being ban means
19906s	that you had to bring double Thalia
19908s	meanwhile this Armageddon has been
19909s	continuing to take a pounding speaking
19911s	of taking a pounding Rima amabell has
19914s	been hard swapped onto what looks like
19916s	the drones here it's not even webbed or
19917s	anything it's just getting absolutely
19919s	demolished by these bonus medium drones
19922s	those bone those medium drones can
19924s	really really put out a a punishment and
19927s	Rema really struggling to stay alive
19929s	quite far away from Stu Stu is off 33 km
19932s	away from Rema your when your Lodie
19934s	buddy is that far away they're repping
19936s	and fall off the Lodi fets really need
19937s	to stick together and here they've
19939s	gotten separated recognizing that
19941s	unspoken took apart it looks like that
19943s	purifier might be the trade but I think
19945s	this is still favoring unspoken Alliance
19947s	right now oh yeah really heavily I mean
19949s	yes you'll probably kill the purifier at
19951s	this point but I mean look at the HP
19952s	right now of kilit kabanov even down
19955s	into looks like a third of its remaining
19957s	armor and purifier now somehow
19959s	stabilizing regening a little bit of its
19962s	Shield I mean roaches wanted to try to
19964s	punch through the alligators but it's
19965s	just not being able to do so I mean
19967s	looking at the attack Bar Road is not
19968s	applying it well unspoken Alliance the
19971s	purifier does finally go down but it's
19973s	gotten so much value absolutely and
19976s	these alligators they have very big
19979s	tanks like they have the gista or the
19981s	gist's bonus where you get a bonus to
19983s	your Shield resist so you don't need to
19985s	fit as many mods
19987s	but it's it's uh yeah Armageddon down
19990s	yeah I mean now that the armageddon's
19992s	down that's a lot of NES off the board
19993s	that we see now just fall off and again
19996s	these medium um you know Shield battle
19998s	Cruisers the one thing that they're
19999s	incredibly uh vulnerable to is nuding
20001s	speaking of things that people are
20002s	nuding uh vulnerable to uh Stu is
20006s	invulnerable to uh drones as his buddy
20008s	is no longer alive he's been taking an
20010s	absolute pounding the ishar has been
20012s	doing his level best to try to get into
20013s	the backline and get some tackle onto
20015s	unpredictable but Nathalia is now down
20018s	and
20019s	unspoken for the first time ever I don't
20021s	believe they've ever won prize ships but
20023s	winning here means that they will make
20024s	top 16 and they'll get those prize ships
20026s	with it yeah meanwhile rot Capel doing
20030s	fairly well this team but they might not
20031s	make that top 16 cutoff it's not over
20034s	yet though Navy Armageddon it's a
20036s	flagship we saw comp Paso piloting this
20039s	yesterday clutching it out in a very
20041s	close matchup it could happen again that
20044s	Navy Armageddon I'm sure tons of purple
20046s	but also taking quite a bit of damage
20049s	this alligator going down is going to
20051s	take off a lot of the pressure but Khan
20052s	doesn't have any logy in order to
20055s	increase his bonus reps and this is the
20057s	other problem being in a drone comp it
20059s	means that your drones are doing damage
20060s	it means critically you do not have rep
20062s	Bots to support you so once the Bas are
20064s	gone it's your local tank and looking at
20066s	the local tank right in that purple bar
20068s	it's pretty substantial right but I mean
20071s	again you have two sers an alligator and
20073s	a heala sitting on you at zero there's
20075s	basically nothing in the game that can
20077s	survive that um you know for a good
20079s	amount of time and if Khan drops it's
20081s	going to be 44 more points towards
20083s	unspoken that's as many points as R
20084s	capel's been able to make in five
20086s	minutes play definitely if Khan drops
20089s	here also that's a whole bunch of the
20092s	potential attack bar for rogel gone Khan
20094s	has good launchers good drones all right
20097s	taking out the Hound that's a really big
20099s	bonus those hounds uh this comp we're
20102s	talking about it before the match
20103s	appears to be a battleship assassination
20105s	comp and Khan completely assassinated
20108s	yeah Khan has gone down and that will be
20109s	R capel's Flagship eliminated unspoken
20112s	Alliance interestingly enough they had a
20114s	BAL Gorn at declared as a flagship
20116s	earlier but it's dead too so both teams
20118s	here flagless uh so R Capel here down a
20122s	total of 54 points so the prophecy now
20125s	the primary that one makes a lot of
20127s	sense to me right you've got it tackled
20129s	you're able to you know freely commit uh
20131s	drones on top of it and Chase down other
20133s	ships that's one of the key features of
20135s	these drone comps is once you hold it
20137s	down you can just throw your drones you
20139s	can try to you know scatter and get on
20141s	top of other things and I mean Ro they
20144s	just don't have enough damage to break
20145s	through a sleer which will have a bonus
20147s	to anery Shield boosting an alligator or
20149s	a heila yeah your guidance disrupting it
20151s	but they just get on top of you at zero
20153s	and it's going to be over for you we've
20155s	seen also unspoken leaving these
20157s	arbitrators for last even though the
20159s	arbitrator is a very good ship we've
20160s	seen a lot of them in this tournament
20161s	we've seen them really disrupt things
20163s	and the arbitrator is able to activate
20165s	its modules is able to interfere with
20167s	its Target
20168s	it's really not enough the alligator and
20170s	the hila both of those like you
20171s	mentioned bonus medium drones a lot of
20174s	their power is completely invulnerable
20176s	to that disruption and that power is
20178s	being applied to this vexer Navy issue
20181s	in ishar so where it kind of feels like
20183s	things really went wrong for R Capel is
20186s	that if you're running this sort of a
20188s	composition right and you know that
20190s	unspoken has done this kind of Rush
20192s	before you have to think okay what
20195s	happens if our Apex flag comp runs into
20198s	to the setup that they ran in the
20199s	literal last match that they played and
20202s	if you don't have an answer for how do
20204s	we kill the logi frigs right how do we
20206s	kill the two bombers that they know they
20207s	brought the last time well okay you're
20210s	running into you know four battle
20212s	Cruisers worth of damage and two bombers
20214s	you know that's you know nearly 4,000
20218s	upwards damage nothing is going to
20219s	survive through that and if you don't
20221s	have an answer for you know we send a uh
20224s	ship like a sple Confessor into the
20226s	backline to really break the burst break
20229s	the Hound you're just going to lose the
20231s	DPS race and that's exactly what
20232s	happened here I think one of the
20233s	advantages that unspoken had with this
20235s	comp is the first time we saw this comp
20237s	it was this morning so rot Capel they've
20240s	probably already warmed up they've
20242s	already played today so they didn't have
20246s	a chance they had to once they knew that
20249s	they lost their previous match they knew
20250s	they were going to be in this
20251s	elimination match all they had was
20254s	spreadsheets pytha and Theory crafting
20256s	they probably didn't have enough time to
20258s	actually undock test it in a scrim maybe
20262s	you run this best out of three maybe
20264s	it's going to go different the second or
20266s	third time but this first time it went
20268s	exactly the way unspoken Alliance
20270s	planned yeah and I mean unspoken
20271s	Alliance did beat Plug and Play earlier
20273s	with this comp like we were saying in
20275s	order to get here but if you wrote and I
20279s	I don't want to be too critical because
20280s	they had a decent run of things they had
20282s	a decent comp but the ability to really
20284s	adjust on the Fly and identify what did
20287s	my opponents bring earlier today in the
20289s	last you know 2 3 hours is really what
20291s	separates the teams that you know go out
20294s	here in 24th Place like wrote and
20296s	Unspoken Who with this win makes top 16
20299s	and what that means is they get the
20301s	prize ships right unspoken could go no
20304s	further than this and they're already in
20305s	the money right unspoken they brought
20307s	what we were kind of jokingly calling a
20309s	poverty born right where they didn't
20311s	have any officer mods well now you've
20313s	won two of the frig you've won two of
20315s	the cruiser I don't recall if they've
20317s	won any of the
20319s	won a BH so right there you add all of
20321s	that up that's over a trillion easily
20323s	between all those ships so they're no
20325s	longer poverty and with that money they
20327s	can you know come back into the next
20329s	Alliance tournament and be like hey
20330s	listen this time we had you know a 5
20334s	billion isk Flagship next time we can
20337s	bring a 50 you know billion isk Flagship
20339s	and use that to really fuel a run
20341s	because again you get these skins that
20343s	were excellently made by uh T Amber
20346s	right you know known as C Prime Pony
20348s	Club member of the community and these
20350s	skins I mean I don't know if we've shown
20353s	them yet on the desk but they're
20354s	absolutely gorgeous I'm sure they're
20355s	going to be selling well and every win
20357s	you get here is going to be another 10
20359s	of those for your team and those packs
20361s	are going to be worth a ton of money
20363s	definitely and the Skins are beautiful
20365s	we have seen them and the ships are
20368s	beautiful and a ton of fun to fly and
20370s	with that we'll send it back to the desk
20372s	to break down this
20373s	match Capel more like lost Capel as they
20377s	exit Alliance tournament 20 um in a a
20381s	pretty well executed uh version of what
20383s	we call the Florida man style comp um
20385s	mystical might you wanted to talk a
20387s	little bit about the band choice in this
20390s	match yeah so we've seen unspoken bring
20392s	this comp before um they flew it really
20394s	well the first time as well um taking
20396s	their time to burn in instead of rushing
20398s	headlong um and using their drones to
20400s	soften up the lower end of the the enemy
20402s	team we've seen them effectively do the
20404s	same thing again they put their drones
20406s	on the um logi fets to clear them away
20409s	before they fully committed to the
20410s	battleships which meant that it was a
20412s	lot easier for them to to eventually
20415s	break through right um what I was
20417s	questioning is okay we saw a Nighthawk
20421s	ban we saw a Loki ban I was curious why
20424s	they wouldn't ban the Nighthawk and the
20426s	alligator as there's no real
20429s	Replacements within that category you
20431s	could bring a claimer if you wanted to
20433s	but it doesn't really do the same thing
20435s	that the Nighthawk or the alligator does
20437s	um it's a little bit less damage it's a
20440s	little bit more tank um but it's it it
20443s	it doesn't quite kick as hard so I think
20445s	if they were worried about hams and and
20448s	the ham Rush variant that unspoken have
20450s	been flying they should have banned the
20451s	alligator and the Nighthawk yeah and
20454s	welcome to the desk how are you today
20456s	I'm doing all right it's been a bit very
20458s	good day so far a lot of good matches
20460s	there has been a lot of good matches uh
20461s	there was uh a flx Vindicator oh mate
20464s	why was I not there for that one I I saw
20466s	I'm like please please please please
20468s	please but it died yeah yeah it that
20471s	seems to be the me measure of it every
20473s	time I see a flag V like it's amazing it
20475s	dies we got I got one yesterday that won
20477s	and it was the greatest moment and I've
20479s	been regretting it ever since I'm
20481s	beginning to think Wing that cross I'm
20483s	beginning to think that the flagship
20485s	Vindicator is not the solution hey hey
20489s	hey hey look the flagship Vindicator
20491s	arrived to the wrong party okay we came
20493s	to the Balor race and all of a sudden
20494s	there's a Vindicator like I've got great
20496s	webs and the balor's looking at it
20497s	that's that's adorable you can web at 20
20500s	I can web at 50 The Vindicator standing
20502s	in the corner going they don't know how
20504s	hard I can web while everyone else is
20506s	Dancing with B at 70 km that's basically
20510s	how it's like a like kid versus a guy
20511s	who's got really long arms just like
20513s	holding him right there like come on
20514s	come on poor Vindicator but speaking of
20517s	flagships by the way H there was a
20519s	flagship in that last match fielded by
20520s	RH Capel um and it is uh it's a very
20523s	dead Flagship now and uh you can
20526s	sometimes tell like how a team feels
20528s	about the the run like what not NE
20531s	taking it seriously but like if they're
20533s	ready to commit to it they're going to
20534s	put up some you know some real do into
20536s	some of these things and you can see
20538s	here uh on this one that uh Ro Capel you
20541s	know put some put some effort into this
20542s	it's almost 100 billion isk in this
20544s	Armageddon Navy issue um most of that is
20547s	in the SML launchers uh of course 90%
20550s	drop most of them dropped uh well 80% of
20553s	them dropped it's close enough um
20554s	there's some decent uh mods in the mid
20557s	slots and then in the low slots again uh
20559s	it's pretty all right we have a nice
20561s	fancy damage control so a pretty solid
20564s	Flagship all around from Ro Capel um
20567s	Misty like we tal we've talked a lot
20568s	about flagships we've talked a lot about
20570s	a lot of different things um for me it's
20574s	still the bar guest I think even seeing
20576s	how things are going I feel like the bar
20579s	guest is still the number one choice I
20581s	would pick I think it's just the
20582s	flexibility although we've seen so far
20586s	two flag bargs and they're both dead
20588s	I I think that's
20589s	unrelated what do you think I think
20591s	that's what a volter member would say
20593s	yeah there we member would say you're an
20595s	next member correct I was also going to
20598s	say the b is kind of cool I agree so
20601s	it's thing we're I I do like the um
20604s	flexibility I do like the flexibility of
20606s	the bar guest and the fact that you can
20607s	bring it in armor or Shield comps I
20609s	would probably favor it more in armor
20611s	comps because it gives you more mids for
20614s	things like scrams so you have better
20616s	control over the Hostile team um but I
20620s	mean the Balor is also a natural one to
20622s	swing for despite the fact that it has
20624s	an immense Point cost in this tournament
20626s	compared to it's one cheaper than the
20627s	bar guest yes it is cheaper than the bar
20629s	guest the men's Point cost it is cheaper
20632s	yeah but it's more expensive than the G
20634s	Navy issue or my favorite the Redeemer
20638s	so um I would have probably suggested if
20640s	people were going to go for bar guest
20642s	you could also probably swing a born but
20645s	it is less flexible um but does give you
20647s	one point back which is probably not
20649s	going to be that much use yeah well um
20652s	we
20653s	have um uh another match coming up um
20657s	which I think we should talk about so
20658s	let's look at the bands for Rage Quit
20659s	cancel sub versus no need loose face so
20662s	this time we have the arm geddon and the
20664s	armagedon Navy isue the arbitrator and
20667s	the Sentinel uh no need to lose face
20669s	Banning out the Widow the uh zarm bwe Z
20674s	babwe oh I see I see I see I see see
20677s	what's going on here uh the the zarm
20679s	babwe uh the anos and the crucifier uh
20683s	Wing what do you think about these bands
20685s	uh the get get Navy is becoming a very
20686s	common one Al especially with the track
20688s	disruption backing it up cuz the track
20690s	disruption is very potent but the NES is
20691s	also absolute pain in the butt and gons
20693s	just kind of fit every armor comp you
20695s	can make the Widow and and the Z I feel
20697s	like you could ban one and get the same
20699s	result just want to shout out the guy in
20701s	twitch chat who suggested zarillo
20704s	um that's a good one that's a good one
20707s	good job
20708s	name stop typing everyone Rous radar
20710s	well done well done we like that one um
20713s	do you know if you type exclamation mark
20715s	and then some version of the name zad
20717s	you might win a prize so you should all
20720s	do that the correct thought might be Z
20722s	if it's the right one I'm not going to
20723s	tell you which one to do it but if you
20724s	find the right one you can go ahead and
20725s	try and get that um predictions though
20728s	so we should talk about this so band
20730s	coming back to you uh we're going we
20731s	talked a little bit about some bands the
20733s	Widow one is an interesting one because
20735s	we've only seen one window fielded and
20736s	it was fed with a arm exactly and
20739s	they've banned both I feel like you can
20740s	just get one ban and just do it ban the
20743s	armarm and then the wids kind of semi
20745s	out anyway not really like not entirely
20747s	that's not entirely correct but it's but
20749s	the zarm really makes it that much
20751s	better they go let it
20754s	begin is good the Z definitely I think
20757s	like really synergize what the Widow
20758s	wants to do but you could just ban the
20760s	Widow and just remove the problem
20761s	entirely yep yeah I mean I don't know I
20765s	I think if you're afraid of ECA like a
20768s	really strong ECM setup then you want to
20769s	remove the Widow I don't think removing
20771s	the Z stops you from being able to bring
20773s	a widow because the Z initially I think
20775s	reps less than let say a guardian would
20777s	it's just a case of um The Guardian is
20780s	also able to split reps right the has
20783s	some unique features which is the more
20785s	it reps the more it reps that's how it
20788s	works wow I know incredible evil line
20792s	mechanic this is why we bring Misty
20794s	right this is this the big this is what
20796s	we this is what I'm here for
20798s	um The Guardian initially will do more
20800s	reps but it doesn't have quite the same
20802s	range so you will have to be closer the
20803s	arm can about 72 km away and still get
20805s	the full effect of its reps so there is
20808s	benefit to bringing the guardian over
20809s	the zarm in some cases I don't think
20811s	removing the zarm stops you from
20813s	bringing widow or other ECM setups and
20815s	in fact I think that the guardian in
20817s	some cases May in fact be stronger
20818s	because it allows you to then send your
20820s	tackle out and you can still keep them
20822s	alive when the Widow misses its Champs
20824s	which it will every now and then so what
20826s	you're saying is just just ban the Widow
20828s	and the problem will be solve solve
20829s	itself now let me tell you about a comp
20832s	that I came up with in my Hydra days
20834s	called banana split it was multiple
20837s	scorpions and black birds and you just
20838s	fly around the arena and jam Jam
20841s	everything off of your friends you know
20842s	it's fine it will work for sure I we saw
20845s	that like a test try of that a year or
20846s	two ago people brought like Cru
20848s	scorpions and bounc from Beacon to
20849s	Beacon trying to be a real pain in the
20850s	ass it it will win I think it was
20853s	definitely annoying I'm not sure if it
20854s	won someone bring it you will win
20857s	I don't think that's
20859s	true I think you are lying Mr he said it
20863s	it must be true I would fly it I don't
20865s	believe you we should do a
20868s	Rome okay let's do that yes we can do
20870s	that that sounds fun um okay so we have
20872s	about 2 minutes until this next match so
20874s	let's maybe let's do some predictions uh
20876s	obviously uh twitch chat um Bing of
20878s	Truth etc etc you guys um are putting it
20881s	oh it's almost 50/50 Rage Quit cancel
20883s	sub a little bit ahead in the polls
20885s	right now um I honestly I'm not sure
20888s	which one to go for in this either uh
20890s	wingland what do you think I think I
20892s	want to go for Rage Quit because if they
20893s	win they win and if they lose well
20895s	they're going to rage quit anyway so
20897s	they win anyway there's no losing for
20899s	them there true grass touching will
20901s	become available again for them Mr glate
20904s	what about you I'm going to go for no
20905s	need I believe uh I remember liking that
20909s	comp more than I did the rage quit comp
20912s	and I think it's because Rage Quit
20913s	fielded Navy gons I mean Navy gon are
20915s	great so I'm definitely going to go for
20916s	them then so can't bring it this time
20918s	they're banned oh damn it all right
20920s	let's go to the arena uh for this match
20922s	here in Alliance tournament
20924s	20 H hello everyone hello everyone and
20928s	welcome back to the arena we are here
20930s	for Rage Quit cancel sub versus no need
20932s	loose face no need lose face they fought
20935s	a tinker previous round they have looked
20937s	at it and they have said great I'll take
20939s	it this is a pseudo Tinker with three
20942s	Golems or two Golems a Navy Raven and
20945s	interestingly a bomber for high DPS yes
20947s	mod what have Rage Quit brought so Rage
20949s	Quit cancels up has brought one of the
20950s	comps that is actually very very good at
20952s	breaking Tinkers and they have brought a
20954s	combination of minmatar and calar ships
20957s	that do not just a little bit but a lot
20959s	of heavy assault missile damage look at
20960s	that attack bar from Rich quit cancel
20962s	sub so what are tankers how do they work
20966s	well you have a bunch of energy uh
20968s	transferring ships and they all kind of
20971s	um give each other capacitor and they
20974s	try to basically self-re right um or
20977s	maybe this isn't a tanker maybe it's
20979s	just honest to God three battleships
20980s	because the Squall and the stor are uh
20982s	trying to screen but look at all of
20984s	these uh ships basically grouping up
20987s	they're going to Target paint and web
20989s	the stor that stor is probably going to
20990s	last all of about 2 seconds meanwhile
20992s	the Osprey is painted I do like that
20995s	call you do try to in you know either a
20998s	tinker or a pseudo Tinker you're going
21000s	to try to kill the Lodi and then kind of
21002s	usually work your way um down up right
21004s	so you kill the Osprey then you kill the
21006s	soll and then you deal with like the
21008s	fleet Cyclone or a Loki um however great
21011s	canel sub also kill the stor kill the
21013s	lyns then they kill a Squall then
21015s	they're going to work their way with um
21017s	you know webs through a Kieran and a
21019s	scalpel so I'm liking the call so far
21021s	yeah moderator I will say uh we called
21023s	this a pseudo Tinker because it has all
21025s	the ships for a pseudo Tinker but if you
21027s	zoom in and you look at the battleships
21028s	they are not currently tinkering I do
21030s	not see cap transfers going between
21032s	these three battleships which means that
21034s	all three of these battleships are
21035s	simply relying on their own
21037s	relying on large cargo Bays large things
21040s	and possibly extra cat boosters stored
21043s	in that Squall that gives them a little
21045s	bit more Mobility but they are
21047s	definitely still going to have to fight
21050s	off this Onslaught from Rage cancel sub
21053s	osprey's a good start Fleet Cyclone's a
21055s	good start but that Navy Raven issue is
21056s	dipping into very low Shield yeah so
21059s	judging by what we see from the attack
21062s	bar and from the missiles right these
21063s	are not Torpedoes ironically Torpedoes
21066s	would be perfect against this um but
21068s	often they're usually not brought
21069s	because they're pretty onedimensional
21070s	right these look like um what appear to
21072s	be cruise missiles um however and what
21076s	we see now is that the fleet Cyclone is
21078s	down the Navy Raven's going to drop but
21079s	if they can really punch through the
21081s	Nighthawk that will be pretty impactful
21083s	however for the economy I don't like it
21086s	kill the squals they are basically at
21089s	the end of the day haulers they don't
21090s	have a ton of tank Nighthawk yes it does
21093s	like 1400 damage but you're a Golem
21095s	right you have really good kinetic
21097s	resists um Nighthawk does not do awesome
21100s	damage against you get rid of these
21101s	squalls I agree get rid of the squalls
21103s	but they're really uh punching through
21106s	stuff Golem in very low very low
21111s	structure just starting to boost I am
21113s	seeing maybe some cap transfer effects
21115s	going on here so maybe it was just like
21116s	a slow cap chain kind of situation
21119s	meanwhile mod I think they heard you
21121s	target paint on the Squall damage on the
21122s	Squall is it too little too late so
21125s	looking at the defense bar and the
21126s	attack bar from from no need to lose
21127s	face yes absolutely so like we were
21129s	saying right you look at the attack bar
21131s	from R quit cancel sub they have already
21133s	lost 88 points of value and look at how
21136s	massive it is right yeah they kill the
21138s	skull but look at how long it took so
21140s	the thing about a lot of these comps is
21142s	that basically Evon line as we all know
21146s	courtesy of the Microsoft partnership is
21148s	a spreadsheet game it is officially
21150s	certified an Excel spreadsheet game so
21153s	what this means is that sometimes you
21155s	figure out okay how long does it take
21157s	for us to do 7,000 damage okay we have
21160s	7,000 damage you have this many HP you
21163s	divide these two you know I think you
21165s	you know come up with a bit of a
21167s	division there and then you get your
21168s	output okay so in nerd numbers yeah you
21171s	basically did the Excel Division and
21174s	speaking of excelling Rage Quit cancel
21176s	sub is excelling at breaking apart this
21178s	composition right we've been here for
21180s	like three minutes nearly four minutes
21183s	and no need lukace has nothing left I
21185s	blinked and the match was over
21187s	absolutely bifrost is uh going down
21190s	Manor last to hang on uh got some drones
21194s	and soon to be the rest of the team
21196s	chasing out to that manacor to catch
21199s	them and end the match for us the uh
21202s	good fights have already gone out in
21203s	local uh teams say that match was a lot
21206s	of fun indeed it was a lot of fun and it
21207s	was over very very quickly thanks to as
21210s	you said that big damage yeah so I mean
21214s	no need to lose face what could have
21215s	they done differently
21217s	um not a whole lot but generally the
21220s	problem that you run into when you have
21222s	these golems and navy Raven you know
21224s	what I would talk about better things to
21225s	do but the match is already over so
21227s	we'll send it to the break and let the
21229s	analyst do the job of analyzing the
21231s	match and talking about competitions how
21233s	do they
21235s	work welcome back to Alliance tournament
21238s	20 uh mystical M wng lros they join me
21241s	on the desk once again um we don't see
21244s	Tinkers very often anymore in Alliance
21245s	tournament um this is the second kind of
21248s	pseudo Tinker now in Lance room in 20
21250s	there was a time when every single match
21252s	was basically just Tinkers versus
21253s	Tinkers uh it got a little bit
21255s	oppressive uh so now with the you can't
21258s	fit Logistics modules to your Tech three
21260s	Cruisers the the true Tinker God Rest
21263s	his soul is long Dead uh but we have
21265s	these pseudo Tinkers now you pointed out
21269s	very very correctly that there was
21270s	something kind of maybe missing from
21271s	this particular sudo Tinker tell me
21272s	about that yeah normally stiners bring a
21274s	very tanky Command Ship generally the
21275s	Nighthawk to sit there and provide the
21277s	links while also actually surviving this
21279s	team went yeah we don't really need
21281s	those we'll just bring two command
21282s	destroyers they'll survive and they're
21283s	gone it was I was curious why it wasn't
21287s	banned as far as I'm aware oh well they
21290s	got a reason I don't know it Mr why
21292s	would you why would you bring command
21293s	destroyers in a tinker set because
21295s	normally you try and just consolidate as
21297s	many points as possible into a few ships
21300s	that just hug each other and the rest of
21302s	it are disposable uh but your links are
21305s	very not disposable especially in a
21306s	tinker when you really rely on just the
21308s	every little bit of extra tank possible
21311s	why would you do this I think theth
21313s	would describe it as a very economically
21317s	ineffective strategy right it's it's
21319s	it's poor budget management I think um
21322s	they went for two Golems I think
21324s	typically with these Tinker setups we
21326s	see one um because they're very
21328s	expensive ships um I don't think it's
21331s	necessarily terrible to bring the store
21333s	and by Frost it is not ideal by any
21335s	means um in fact it probably is terrible
21338s	uh but what's even worse is then taking
21340s	the stalker by Frost and trying to use
21341s	them to screen the Russian comp um
21345s	knowing that you basically have no logic
21346s	to keep them alive and knowing that they
21348s	are your links uh you want to keep your
21350s	links alive for as long as possible so I
21353s	would have suggested burning away with
21354s	the stalk and bu Frost and maybe flying
21356s	by every now and then to give the
21358s	command links where they could um to
21360s	ensure that the Golems um and I believe
21364s	the Navy Raven had the ehp increase pie
21366s	es from their Shield links um yeah just
21371s	just bring bring a battle cruiser next
21373s	time I guess well unfortunately there
21375s	isn't a next time uh that was an
21376s	elimination match so uh they are gone
21378s	from Alliance tournament 20 um if
21380s	there's another Alliance tournament
21382s	sometime in the future who knows uh then
21384s	uh you could bring it then perhaps but
21386s	we will definitely find out I wonder
21388s	what the the the red blue is up to by
21392s	the way um if someone if someone in the
21394s	back could check the red and the blue uh
21396s	that would be nice cuz I'm interested I
21398s	forgot to check it myself um
21401s	so we don't see Marauders very often um
21405s	although I feel like this year we're
21407s	starting to see them kind of have a
21408s	Resurgence uh in use in tournaments uh
21411s	we just saw two Golems we obviously had
21413s	a flagship vargar um we've seen a few
21415s	paladins kind of cutting around mystical
21417s	mate one of the best things about a
21419s	Marauder is you have a little module mhm
21422s	it's known as the basting module M um
21424s	you click the basan module ah and then
21427s	everyone around you ceases to be able to
21430s	kill you and they all then die why why
21433s	why can't we just simply Bastion in the
21436s	alliance tournament I think the the
21438s	descriptor changes depending on who you
21441s	ask if if you ask a wonderful nuluk
21444s	member in their staging system whopping
21446s	to a gate to shoot some small gangers
21448s	they're going to say this is a wonderful
21449s	button if you ask the small ganger there
21451s	may be a lot of bleeps about the modu
21455s	and yeah so um it it it's up for debate
21459s	but in the alliance tournament we used
21461s	to have Bastion modules on Marauders in
21464s	one the alliance tournaments essentially
21466s	it would come down to one more order on
21468s	one team one more order on the other
21470s	team both of them Bastion just kind of
21472s	sitting there throwing missiles or
21474s	shooting beams um and then we would hit
21476s	reverse dday and the system the same
21479s	thing but faster the speed up and speed
21481s	up and speed up and it became a case of
21482s	like you're basically just tapping your
21484s	keyboard constantly trying to do module
21485s	management running your cap booster make
21487s	sure you don't over rep make sure you're
21488s	not burning things out um it became a
21491s	very intense experience for two people
21494s	and a very boring one for everyone else
21496s	yes um which is basically the reason why
21499s	we don't have these bastia modules
21501s	anymore in the tournament um you need to
21503s	rely on your own skill you need to
21505s	actually like position around the arena
21508s	um they're still strong without the
21509s	Bastion module just due to their bonuses
21512s	and the fact that they are Tech Two
21514s	battleships but
21516s	you don't just have a I shall win button
21519s	yeah I mean I remember that was a liance
21521s	tournament 13 um was the The Marauder
21524s	heavy tournament and yeah I still
21527s	remember there was so many matches where
21529s	it just would be 18 people um were doing
21532s	whatever they wanted to do and then two
21534s	people in Bastion punching each other in
21536s	the face uh for most likely 15 minutes
21539s	um and not the most exciting thing Lions
21541s	did this basically just back and forward
21542s	it's like oh it repped oh it red y um
21546s	but there was one moment that I remember
21547s	from L stre 13 it was the only possible
21550s	basan versus Bastian Marauder uh
21552s	exciting moment that I could possibly
21553s	remember uh there was a Golem with range
21556s	sitting far away from a paladin both of
21560s	them of course are in Bastin both of
21561s	them are shooting each other the uh
21564s	Paladin was slowly dying and he couldn't
21567s	kill the uh the Golem because it was you
21569s	know you know full full full tank full
21571s	cap he comes out of Bastion immediately
21574s	starts dying much quicker because he's
21575s	no longer in Bastion but Lins up mjd's
21579s	lands in like 25% Hull immediately rebas
21582s	starts repping again and then puts all
21584s	these NES on the Golem shuts down the
21586s	Golem's tank and kills it and I was like
21588s	well done that was excellent now we
21590s	shall remove the basan module because he
21593s	shouldn't have had to do that we have
21594s	now peaked yeah we had the one moment of
21597s	actual good play yes and that's all we
21598s	needed took us a tour to get there true
21600s	yep so yeah so if if you're first time
21602s	uh watching last stre and you see some
21604s	of these Marauders I've seen a few
21605s	questions in chat ask like if they can
21607s	feel the basan module that is why they
21609s	cannot it is not fun for the rest of us
21612s	all right we have one more match uh of
21616s	the day but before I see we have our red
21618s	versus blue wins have been updated uh
21621s	let's see if we can throw that up right
21622s	now and look at that wow red is still
21625s	dominant um and the blue specifically
21629s	blue not green wins it looks like
21631s	there's been a few more since I I
21632s	remember the blue section of the graph
21635s	which is represented here in green um it
21638s	being smaller proportionately I do
21640s	believe it was smaller yeah I I believe
21642s	it went from this to this for those of
21646s	you who are looking at the charts and
21648s	not the cameras Mr Gite was gesturing
21650s	like a pie there you go yeah that was it
21653s	there you are that was the increase it
21654s	was like one or two matches we don't
21656s	need graphs anymore we have graphs at
21658s	home we us theph yes we have graphs at
21660s	home um yes the uh the blue side CL it
21664s	back a little bit yeah we we we can all
21667s	hope and dream little bit little bit way
21668s	to go next weekend is their weekend know
21671s	it's scheduled for the blue teams next
21673s	weekend exactly that's the script oh did
21677s	I leave the script up I meant to say
21679s	that oh we have some more we have some
21681s	more let we have some more graphs I'm
21683s	I'm I'm graph wealthy now uh let's throw
21685s	this one up this is the most commonly
21687s	brought ships in Alliance tournament 20
21689s	so the P effects obviously it's super
21692s	super valuable um pretty much every
21695s	armor control comp is is bringing them
21697s	uh the Deacon is the numbers are
21698s	slightly inflated because they tend to
21700s	be brought in pairs but due to points
21701s	inflation that's not always reliable so
21703s	it's still super popular you can see
21705s	here the Armageddon Navy has lost a spot
21707s	uh it was I think it may be tied but it
21709s	was you know Undisputed third place the
21712s	Magus is now moved up there as well and
21714s	of course the arbitrator we talked about
21715s	it a bunch today it's a a super powerful
21717s	ship and it's very cheap pointwise very
21719s	cheap it doesn't have to be anywhere
21721s	near anybody to do its job effectively
21723s	it can just fly off into the AR end of
21726s	the arena and just kind of like throw
21729s	tracking disruption across it the the
21731s	most important thing we saw there was
21732s	the number of squalls brought yeah um I
21734s	think you'll be hard pressed to find
21736s	somebody that doesn't agree with the
21738s	statement more Squall equals more good
21740s	yes um that is that has been how most of
21743s	these teams got into the feeders in the
21744s	first place yes all s all the time and I
21746s	think that these teams should be
21748s	reestablishing and getting to grips with
21750s	their Squall routs I mean the team won
21752s	the last match three squs yep more squs
21755s	see there you go there I think the
21757s	point's proven the point is definitely
21758s	proven I I think that's undisputable uh
21761s	so let us uh get more squalls uh okay so
21764s	I'm looking for there's so many charts
21766s	now here we go is this our bands no we
21768s	don't have our bands yet uh so our last
21770s	match of the day uh is going to be postp
21773s	Clarity versus genin impact Alliance uh
21777s	so
21778s	genin again to remind you we're in the
21780s	elimination bracket right now genin are
21783s	here having never lost a ship
21787s	all right now you may be think thinking
21789s	hey just be Overlord how could they
21791s	possibly have lost a match without
21793s	losing any ships oh I know I know I know
21796s	Mr Wingnut tell me what how did that
21797s	happen they did not bring 200 points and
21800s	the opposing team brought 200 points and
21803s	neither team killed anything for 10
21805s	minutes and it was possibly one of the
21808s	best matches I've ever
21809s	commentated it was a really good match
21811s	and that team by the way still in the
21813s	tournament and didn't kill anything for
21816s	the next match as well look I'm not I'm
21818s	not angry all right I'm just
21821s	disappointed like 200 points just bring
21823s	you 200 points come on all right hey we
21826s	have the bands now okay let us uh take a
21828s	look at the bands between postp pod
21829s	Clarity and genjin impact Alliance so
21832s	post paused Clarity Banning of the
21834s	Armageddon the Armageddon Navy issu is
21836s	now becoming a standard The Sentinel and
21838s	the arbitrator uh meanwhile genion
21840s	impact Alliance Banning out the the slep
21842s	near not the slep far that's unbanned uh
21844s	the zarm Bony the e and the ly um
21848s	Wingnut you yeah what do you think about
21850s	these bands here those top bands seem a
21852s	little familiar feel like we've seen
21853s	this exact set of bands the previous
21856s	match I wonder if they just decide to
21859s	copy the other guys you know just copy
21860s	their homework and go home with
21862s	it yeah I mean I think that's probably
21864s	probably a safe assumption as well Mr
21866s	might anything you interesting you see
21867s	here I mean armag Navy is just so
21869s	powerful I'm trying to remember exactly
21872s	which team brought what but I think
21873s	postp Clarity was the one that brought
21875s	to aares and then gun spam I think or
21878s	maybe it was the other way around one of
21879s	them brought two aart days and gun spam
21881s	one of them brought I think it was
21883s	double Navy Garden or something at some
21886s	point um so I'm just expecting to see
21889s	some more gun spam shrim as just gun
21893s	spam just gun spam gun spam gun spam gun
21896s	spam all right um and here we go a uh
21899s	another chart uh I see these guys are on
21902s	point with charts I I do love me some
21905s	charts this is a our chart of the most
21907s	often destroyed ships in Alliance
21908s	tournament XX day one we need to work on
21912s	conciseness of naming I think but you
21914s	know okay Deacon Pon effects uh
21917s	destroyed often cuz the ponts is you're
21920s	going to take them out because them your
21921s	links then the the the megus the molus
21923s	and then the armag Navy issue there he
21925s	is again lots of armag Navy issues so
21926s	lots of them die um yeah and look an
21929s	ashim I didn't realize how many people
21930s	were bringing ashim to be honest like a
21932s	handful of them yeah there have been
21933s	quite a few yeah I haven't quite noticed
21934s	there's that many ashim mytic there not
21936s	the common ship it's because when you
21938s	look it's probably a wck that dies first
21940s	in most matches aim it's it's a fairly
21944s	cheap ship that you can bring for
21946s	middling range webs um so people slot it
21950s	into their setups where they had the
21951s	room um so yeah I mean that's that's
21955s	ultimately why you see it die a lot
21956s	because it's burning in it's screening
21959s	um it's getting shot and they dies the
21963s	teams generally
21966s	sometimes win sometimes
21967s	lose wow we are so good at our jobs
21971s	sometimes I can't remember whether most
21974s	teams that bring ashamu lose I don't
21975s	think that's the case I feel like you
21977s	have to have a certain level of
21978s	self-confidence to bring an ashamu in
21979s	the first
21981s	place or cluelessness or cluelessness
21984s	yes that is also either one works yes
21987s	you can tell ladies and gentlemen in
21989s	twitch land you can tell we're getting
21990s	towards the end of the
21992s	stream because it has been a long day it
21994s	has been a day full of explosion
21996s	full of explosions some amazing matches
21999s	some absolute classic alltime matches uh
22003s	we had volter losing uh a very expensive
22006s	Flagship to um Platinum sensitivity we
22009s	had uh like goons coming and Performing
22012s	really well uh but unfortunately still
22014s	getting knocked out we had a couple of
22015s	nail biters of course let's not forget
22017s	uh that incredible one with Odin's call
22019s	versus arrival definitely one of the
22021s	best matches so far of the tournament
22023s	incredible plays by some Pilots there
22025s	the Paradigm coming in and just saving
22027s	Colonel CTS in just such a small amount
22030s	of structure incredible amounts of
22032s	matches this uh this weekend and
22033s	there'll be even more next weekend uh
22035s	there will be a whole bunch more and
22036s	we'll also have the grand finals uh and
22040s	and that will be us but we have to get
22042s	there first so we have one more match
22044s	for you tonight uh genjin Impact versus
22046s	postp pod Clarity and I see here on my
22048s	screen that uh genin are bringing their
22051s	Flagship Armageddon Navy issue are they
22053s	going to kill something hopefully so I
22055s	think that's what they want to do uh and
22057s	hopefully they brought 200 points see if
22059s	we come to the arena and I see a number
22060s	that's not zero I'm going to be again
22064s	very disappointed in you okay so all
22066s	right let's head over to the arena now
22067s	and see how disappointed I shall
22070s	be hello I moderator joined by alars for
22073s	the final but not least of all match
22076s	tonight genin impact have their Navy
22079s	Armageddon piloted by sailor as we had
22081s	from the analyst desk and they're going
22083s	to be running a rapid um on that
22086s	supported by a pair of abadin of
22088s	celestus that may not do all too much
22090s	against a medium all-in gun setup from
22093s	postp pod Clarity look at those attack
22095s	bars I mean abatons are bricks they do a
22097s	ton of damage but medium beams and
22100s	medium rail guns also known for doing a
22102s	lot of damage yeah the crucifier and
22104s	genin impact Alliance is going to have
22106s	to be working overtime hopefully they
22108s	pack tracking disruptors uh if so though
22111s	might be able to start blunting the
22112s	damage from that postp pod Clarity side
22115s	uh as you said say celestus maybe not
22117s	going to have the greatest time however
22119s	uh with the split weapon systems that
22120s	tracking or the guidance disruptor from
22122s	the crucifier actually able to do
22124s	something onto this Navy Armageddon so I
22126s	really like the call from these Lodi
22128s	frigs to PR up their crucifier because
22130s	if I'm these aartis or the Navy bruck
22132s	and I want to try to get a cheap cheeky
22134s	pick in the first 30 seconds it's going
22136s	to be the cruy right so we see crucially
22138s	that the celestus that I said might not
22140s	do a ton is damping the crucifier that
22143s	means that the crucifier of post pod
22144s	would have to commit in very close as I
22147s	say that the damp falls off so um what
22149s	that means really is if you're damped uh
22151s	in your F your chain breaker on the side
22153s	of post pod you'd really have to get
22154s	closer than you'd like interestingly
22157s	enough this Navy Armageddon is getting
22159s	nosed and what that's telling me is that
22161s	one of these ships is nsing his friendly
22164s	uh buddy for capacitor maybe a little
22166s	bit premature for that though yeah it
22168s	badens they are big slow laser brick
22170s	boats I believe this is very this is
22172s	certainly very similar to if not
22174s	identical to the the comp that genin
22176s	impact played in their exciting match
22178s	versus white squall uh it's not known
22181s	for its speed we can see that the badens
22184s	are I hate to cut you off here Ali but
22186s	we see there's a micro jump drive play
22188s	coming from the side of postp pod
22189s	Clarity they're looking to it looks like
22191s	jump to yet another uh Beacon and from
22194s	there if they're able to organize
22196s	they're in a perfect range to try to get
22197s	onto the backline but so far gench
22200s	impact is recognizing this and they're
22201s	trying to close the gap making it so
22203s	that snow kidf fox or any other ship
22205s	can't be an easy pick you know what mod
22208s	looking at the score line not only does
22210s	this look very similar to the comp that
22211s	they brought against white squall it has
22213s	the same fatal flaw it's 199 points
22217s	postp pod Clarity they watch that match
22219s	too if you're in a tournament you watch
22221s	the footage of all of your opponents
22222s	post pod maybe they're going to they're
22225s	staying grouped up on that Beacon they
22227s	might be setting up to jump again should
22229s	any of these slow ships get anywhere
22231s	nearby what that means hopefully gench
22234s	and impact learns from that last
22236s	one and they make a decisive play here
22239s	so critically you're absolutely right
22241s	postp Clarity could try to run out the
22243s	clock and they would win genin impact
22246s	one of the issues they have is looking
22248s	at the ships that they've got they don't
22250s	really have anything that says I'm going
22252s	to go out and Tackle yes they have a
22254s	pontif effect and omegas that can do it
22256s	but you really don't want to because
22258s	those are your only two link ships on
22260s	the entire grid and we've seen Time
22262s	After Time what happens when you lose
22263s	your links in a comp like this not only
22266s	that but with frig Lodie it's really
22268s	hard to send one ship in deep to grab
22271s	tackle for the other team to catch up if
22273s	you if that maggus goes in that pontif
22275s	effect maybe that vigil Fleet issue if
22277s	one of them were to go in their Lodie
22278s	buddies would have to choose between
22281s	trying to rep them and opening
22283s	themselves up to the medium guns their
22285s	tracking is well known for being quite
22287s	strong or just letting that ship die so
22291s	interestingly enough the Deacon of
22292s	yanna's aate had a bit of a misplay on
22295s	the beacon and just now uh he is
22297s	overheating his little heart out uh
22300s	absolutely doing its level best to try
22302s	to get back to his mates and he is
22303s	getting long range nuded out and
22306s	actually he might even be 5 MN and just
22309s	now he's getting active reps but there
22310s	is a cloud of small rep or small damage
22313s	drones getting on top of yanos Yana's
22315s	now getting notice the damps on that
22317s	Thalia so yanos is getting attack
22320s	getting Ned and Thia got damped off like
22323s	you just said oh my God Yan's this
22324s	Thalia he might be targeting range and
22327s	scan res damp so if they split those the
22329s	Thalia might have no targeting range and
22331s	no lock time and guess what the Deacon
22333s	goes down so genjin this is I think
22335s	their one of their first um they they're
22339s	no longer in the situation where the
22340s	clock can run out postp pod Clarity with
22342s	losing that they now have to hard commit
22344s	to something yeah genin is now in the in
22347s	the spot where if they just run the
22348s	clock out they'll be good and post pod
22350s	recognizing that is maybe starting to
22353s	come in but all of these battleships are
22355s	getting on top of postcard tackling the
22356s	brck spreading those NES uh so sailor
22360s	has used what is almost obviously an
22362s	officer um scram and an officer web to
22365s	hold down a lord servant in the Navy
22367s	brck so crucially that means with the
22369s	scram you can't commit to the micro jump
22371s	drive Beacon it won't activate when
22373s	you're scrammed and look at how much of
22374s	a pounding he's taken the thol is going
22376s	down to a cloud of uh damage drones and
22380s	the Navy bruix is been the primary from
22382s	this flag comp yeah with the lot with
22385s	the deacon down Nathalia has no more
22387s	reps to no more incoming reps save for
22389s	whatever Lodi drones are available on
22391s	their team and those loggy drones it's
22394s	not enough to keep the Thalia up and
22395s	with the Thalia down this Navy bruck is
22397s	also going to fall so postp pod Clarity
22400s	they had an option like you were saying
22401s	where it looked like what they wanted to
22403s	do was to try to literally just run the
22405s	clock out but the problem is it requires
22407s	all 10 of your players to not make any
22410s	you know uh mistakes or to double click
22412s	in space and uh misalign yourself going
22414s	from Beacon to Beacon and they had their
22416s	most critical ship one of the Lodi frigs
22419s	do that and it's been kind of downhill
22421s	that post pod's been disjointed and
22423s	unable to find their footing sense yeah
22425s	one of the things that we've talked
22426s	about a lot is the different Flagship
22427s	choices one of the advantages that the
22429s	Armageddon Navy issue brings here is the
22431s	Armageddon Navy issue unlike the Bal
22432s	Gorn another popular choice the
22434s	Armageddon Navy issue has n range so
22437s	that Deacon n it was being applied from
22440s	many more kilometers than that Deacon
22442s	might have been expecting yeah and now
22444s	postp pod what they're trying to do is
22445s	they're trying to get webs on the pontif
22447s	effects that's going to be the Vigilant
22448s	and I understand yeah you got to kill
22450s	the links to try to punch through the
22451s	deacons but you just traded your
22453s	Vigilant maybe you get the pontif effect
22455s	but man it's really not worth it at this
22457s	point and now the St the Absolution is
22460s	being held down the MERS are being held
22462s	down genjin is playing pretty damn well
22466s	definitely and postp pod they did their
22468s	best they were going around that Beacon
22469s	that was a very good strategy for them
22471s	to try as you say unfortunately that
22473s	Deacon just a little bit not quite in
22475s	the right place that Navy Armageddon
22477s	able to catch up able to open open it up
22480s	with that kill and with the Lodie down
22482s	post pod has no additional sustain
22485s	beyond their buffer and these medium
22488s	gunships they're quite good ships but
22490s	they don't have that much buffer and
22492s	that's absolutely true I will say that
22494s	nine of the players you know did their
22496s	very best but again this is a game where
22498s	it really only takes one of your players
22500s	to be um something kind of a of a weak
22503s	link or for a misplay and for things to
22505s	kind of spiral out and we were saying
22507s	earlier on maybe the celestus won't do
22509s	that much but it turns out that the
22510s	celestus was the MVP because what they
22513s	did it looked like is they applied you
22514s	know two targeting rage damps and two
22517s	scan uh res damps so that means you have
22519s	no targeting range and it then takes you
22521s	forever to lock anything he overshot his
22524s	buddy couldn't get lock and then it was
22526s	all she wrote indeed as we're watching
22529s	these uh ships clean up uh genin impact
22531s	Alliance looks to be continuing in the
22533s	alliance tournament still having never
22535s	lost ship so congratulations to them uh
22538s	it's unlikely that this Fleet vigil or
22540s	any of these other ships is going to
22541s	fall uh this is the last match of the
22543s	day we'll be wrapping this up and then
22545s	coming back next week with more matches
22547s	in the top 16 yeah critically what this
22550s	means for genin impact is that most of
22552s	these people are from the infinity
22554s	Avenger Corp in snuffed out so what this
22557s	means is that genin impact their first
22559s	ever time in the alliance tournament
22561s	will make top 16 will get at the very
22564s	least two of those frigs to the Cruisers
22566s	and a battleship and they've done better
22568s	than the actual EU and US time zone
22571s	snuffed out that's been trying to get
22572s	here for the last 5 years and then
22574s	you've got till doomsday which has
22576s	snuffed out French members so really who
22578s	is like the snuffed out MVP at this
22581s	point it's a it's a tough question and
22583s	this is the great thing about the
22584s	alliance tournament is you can get these
22586s	uh is it's all based on alliances in TQ
22588s	so not only do we have these rivalries
22593s	between the teams but you also have a
22595s	little bit of uh rivalries between the
22596s	alliances we've already seen the goons
22598s	swarm versus pandemic horde Battle of
22600s	the large null blocks uh here the
22602s	question who is the real snuffed out so
22606s	the real snuffed out May stand up but um
22610s	I hate to admit it but the weeps have
22612s	won uh that means we can get the IAS in
22616s	chat um so Kev Hammer goes down the
22619s	asard is The Last Ship remaining genin
22624s	impact I want to credit them for really
22626s	seizing on the initiative they knew what
22628s	they had to do they knew what their
22629s	wicon was they immediately identified
22632s	and the differentiation between these
22634s	teams that really make it to top 16 make
22636s	it to top 12 is not just knowing what to
22638s	do but making that snap call quickly
22641s	identifying and seizing on the moment
22643s	and you know that's what you have to do
22645s	if you really want to make it deep yeah
22647s	I really I also want to credit postp pod
22649s	Clarity on a very good run postp pod
22651s	they came in through feeders they've
22653s	made it this far anyone who's gotten
22655s	here they've done a good job so great
22658s	job to both of you have a good evening
22661s	and we'll send it back to the desk to
22663s	wrap this
22665s	up and there you have it genin impact
22667s	Alliance they take the W CP you're
22670s	unclocked
22671s	again what the [ __ ] uh they take the W
22674s	um in this one and we have just checked
22678s	they are officially one and two sorry
22680s	two in one two wins yeah one loss
22682s	haven't lost a single ship the entire
22683s	tournament so far they a single ship
22685s	while losing a match because they they
22687s	left off a point they then didn't lose
22689s	any ships in the last two matches so
22691s	this is the most economical Alli
22693s	tournament run think I've ever seen like
22695s	the only expenses thus far have been
22697s	ammunition which I say as well if it
22699s	wasn't for yanisa they were this far
22701s	away from doing it again going 199 and
22704s	200 and losing one point from the start
22706s	so they did not learn the lesson why
22710s	both both teams messed up in that match
22712s	genin not learning their lesson and
22714s	Yanni you ruined a great meme you've
22717s	ruined it I would start looking for a
22719s	new
22721s	call all right that was the last match
22724s	of today uh we are back next week of
22726s	course uh for the continuation of
22727s	Alliance tournament 20 uh of course
22729s	thank you to all the the staff members
22731s	that are behind the scenes that make
22732s	this happen there's just so many people
22734s	uh here to make this this go on thank
22736s	you of course to all the pilots who have
22738s	been flying today we we appreciate your
22740s	sacrifices and of course thank you to
22742s	you in twitch uh for for being here and
22744s	enjoying this show with is I am CCB
22746s	overload I will be CCB overlo again next
22748s	week so make sure you tune in I am
22750s	pretty sure but I can't be 100% sure
22752s	make sure you tune in next week same
22754s	time same place twitch. television CCP
22757s	we'll see you then

Alliance Tournament XX | Day 2

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