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| 7s | all right welcome to the great Yves |
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| 10s | downunder AMA with our lovely CCP |
| 12s | representatives the first one up is |
| 14s | Kigali go ahead sir today Kigali Kigali |
| 17s | braved newbies brave collective my |
| 20s | question is relating to the current |
| 24s | state of the game appears to be well the |
| 26s | current state of melsek appears to be a |
| 29s | collection of giant blue donuts where |
| 32s | everybody is trying to turn your sandbox |
| 34s | into a car park diplomatic agreements |
| 38s | going around and making friends with |
| 40s | these guys and non invasion agreements |
| 43s | and blowing up with these people he is |
| 48s | actually making everything straight |
| 51s | lines and destroying conflict in the |
| 54s | game what have you got for us how can we |
| 58s | turn it back into the sandbox that we |
| 62s | know and love okay I can try though okay |
| 88s | so there's a couple of answers to that |
| 90s | question so do we have a concrete plan |
| 94s | that we're moving on right now the |
| 96s | answer is no but do we recognize that |
| 98s | it's a problem yes and the reason why |
| 101s | it's a problem is in some ways a game |
| 103s | design it's also in some ways just |
| 105s | player behavior winning in an economic |
| 110s | game often times the best way to do that |
| 113s | is not to go around and start a bunch of |
| 114s | fights and so we we are looking at game |
| 119s | design options to change it and we're |
| 121s | also looking at social options to change |
| 123s | it and sometimes the two will cross over |
| 124s | so I guess the direct answer your |
| 126s | question is yes but no specifics have |
| 129s | been decided yet |
| 133s | if I maybe comment a little bit on why I |
| 136s | believe it is the case like what are the |
| 139s | conditions that brought this about I |
| 142s | think we have over the past seven eight |
| 147s | years been giving too many tools to know |
| 154s | SEC alliances to increase comfort |
| 155s | I think the first mistake was to earn a |
| 161s | CIMMYT of symmetry size the mineral |
| 164s | distribution where people came self |
| 166s | sufficient for the resource acquisition |
| 169s | it in its region the game was actually |
| 171s | completely designed to be the reverse so |
| 174s | that it would never be self-sufficient |
| 176s | so you would have to you would have to |
| 180s | have access to the whole map either |
| 182s | through aggression or pact making I |
| 185s | think that's one condition I think the |
| 188s | the soft system has been like stagnant |
| 193s | in a way where everything has kind of |
| 196s | settled into a certain comfort zone I |
| 199s | think there are growth dynamics in the |
| 202s | game the game is maintaining its player |
| 206s | base it's not growing and when you when |
| 210s | you have a fixed map and a growing game |
| 212s | you almost force elements to UM topple |
| 215s | pretty regularly and I think these |
| 218s | conditions combined have brought about |
| 221s | the stasis we're watching now and I |
| 224s | think if you systematically start to |
| 226s | unwind that we need to quote-unquote |
| 228s | off with a mineral distribution we |
| 231s | need to do something with a soft system |
| 233s | which is I don't really have an answer |
| 236s | but I think it's providing too much |
| 239s | control in comfort and then I think |
| 242s | there are limits elements like how like |
| 246s | the local chart system creates even more |
| 249s | mechanisms to provide control I think we |
| 253s | have to systematically unwind some of |
| 255s | these things to bring about conflict |
| 258s | again |
| 259s | and make it scary again and I think we |
| 262s | need to get moving on that |
| 265s | and I would rather do the wrong thing |
| 268s | and cause havoc rather than to what sit |
| 273s | in fear and just shimmy too so I don't |
| 277s | like the idea of taking the ant hills |
| 280s | and just or put them aflame put in the |
| 285s | absence of any better idea that is what |
| 289s | needs to happen next question is by I |
| 302s | promise of Korea so I so many Korean |
| 307s | player like paratus toid you about |
| 310s | worried about your so good part of it |
| 314s | made up a k2 visa system so it is |
| 318s | opportune use so and transfer many |
| 322s | people ship is serviced on Japan that is |
| 327s | a completely breakdown so same happen to |
| 331s | be worried about Korea's Korean |
| 334s | translator translate |
| 341s | we worry about that so far away's |
| 346s | parodies interesting your java |
| 350s | technology not that evil evil right i |
| 352s | piece of tell you some korean game press |
| 356s | worried about new that is |
| 358s | seventeen-year-old it is too late to |
| 361s | come korea korean so many people korean |
| 368s | press the korean play italian interest |
| 370s | eve online i hope i hope more korean guy |
| 374s | come evil right but they will not |
| 379s | because of because of pearl abyss korean |
| 384s | players would not come yes i realize but |
| 391s | you if you could maybe ask the question |
| 396s | again so I can better understand is your |
| 398s | concern about even Korea or is your |
| 402s | concern about about the translation yes |
| 408s | okay so so here would be my answer to |
| 413s | that so poor Lopez has an irrational |
| 418s | interest in EVE Online and and we us and |
| 429s | pearl abyss are willing to do irrational |
| 431s | things in Korea because of my irrational |
| 436s | interest in Korea and their irrational |
| 438s | interest in EVE Online when we were |
| 442s | working on the Japanese translation with |
| 446s | lakhs maximum the problem is the |
| 449s | economics of maintaining the |
| 451s | translations did not hold there the the |
| 455s | ROI of maintaining the Japanese |
| 457s | translation it's very high to maintain |
| 460s | high quality Japanese translation so we |
| 464s | share it down I do not think it will |
| 467s | happen with the Korean translation |
| 469s | because it is not necessarily done for |
| 474s | business reasons |
| 476s | it's it's done for the purposes of ccpm |
| 479s | product is working together on a project |
| 480s | that we want to be successful on so I |
| 484s | would say the the conditions why we're |
| 487s | making a Korean translations for iman |
| 490s | line are built on a mutual interest in |
| 494s | bringing together even Korea that are |
| 499s | turned so in an irrational way so even |
| 501s | if we don't have tens of thousands of |
| 504s | people from Korea playing human line if |
| 505s | we have a few thousands that will allow |
| 509s | us to work together on a project which |
| 511s | both companies are extremely excited to |
| 513s | do and it's mainly done out of a massive |
| 519s | petitioning by Pearl of his employees |
| 521s | demanding that we have a Korean |
| 524s | translation of even Korea so that would |
| 528s | be my answer so have faith Jurek Rd from |
| 537s | havoc cooperation in test alliance |
| 539s | please ignore my question is with the |
| 541s | recent production of the breakdown of |
| 546s | players banned for boat like behavior by |
| 549s | CCP peligro when of the community in EVE |
| 551s | going to get an npc base within the |
| 554s | drawing regions to help you deal with |
| 556s | these BOTS menace so I like your |
| 564s | question about the NPC base in the |
| 566s | throne regions because it's extremely |
| 569s | solution oriented I did not realize that |
| 572s | that was a way to address it shame on me |
| 575s | I'm very stupid but I learnt about it |
| 578s | last night I think it's an excellent to |
| 581s | apple solution which we should |
| 583s | absolutely consider because the |
| 586s | challenge with proof-of-work in EVE |
| 590s | Online are quite enormous and I think we |
| 593s | have let it slide for too long and now |
| 596s | that we're taking action we're seeing a |
| 598s | whole host of issues coming out of the |
| 600s | woodwork but I I like your question |
| 603s | because your phrasing it has a solution |
| 604s | i I did not realize |
| 609s | I'm sure some people in the design team |
| 611s | I probably had similar ideas as well for |
| 617s | how we can tackle boating and we're |
| 619s | working closely with the CSM on that to |
| 622s | get their feedback and also find the |
| 624s | solutions that we can you know try to |
| 626s | figure out and help with the boating |
| 629s | situation in a phone line sorry I cut |
| 631s | you in there Kevin one thing that I will |
| 634s | say is we are considering that solution |
| 638s | but it is not the only solution we're |
| 639s | considering Thank You Matthew Fontana |
| 646s | from brave collective I'm just curious |
| 648s | if in the early days of investigating VR |
| 651s | i Matthew Fontana from brave collective |
| 654s | I'm curious if in the early days of |
| 656s | investigating VR you ever put together a |
| 658s | test build a VR client for EVE Online |
| 662s | itself and how it went we we did talk |
| 668s | about that but we did not do it the main |
| 671s | challenge is that we have our own |
| 673s | proprietary to engin brief and it's a |
| 676s | lot of work to have that work on the |
| 678s | earth and it's work that requires kind |
| 682s | of unicorn resources which are usually |
| 684s | PC in EVE Online backlog work Valkyrie |
| 688s | was very much |
| 690s | our first step in doing spaceships in |
| 693s | hundred four and we're doing the same |
| 696s | with Eve ether wars were using 104 |
| 699s | I think at some point in the distant |
| 702s | future we might even consider unreal |
| 705s | fourth for Eve right now Eve is better |
| 707s | at doing spaceships than on air for is |
| 709s | but those guys are really good at |
| 712s | improving their anthem I think there |
| 714s | will be a point in time where unreal 4 |
| 718s | will outclass even our own engine once |
| 722s | they have done some things which I know |
| 724s | are on the roadmap but are not high |
| 726s | priority because not many people have |
| 728s | the problem we have with tens of |
| 729s | thousands of people talking out so we we |
| 733s | talked about it I think Eve would make a |
| 735s | good four year experience especially |
| 737s | sort of passive activities like mining |
| 740s | there's a kind of a hypnotic |
| 742s | aspect that happens when you're kind of |
| 745s | sort of serenely mining it's it's almost |
| 748s | meditational so we talked about it think |
| 751s | about it but we never moved on it |
| 752s | because it would have required people |
| 755s | that are usually busy improving the |
| 757s | engine for him online and not where we |
| 758s | are thank you blackouts in the kit by |
| 765s | the way |
| 768s | well Alliance bookmarks weaned people |
| 781s | can't actually what here what I'm gonna |
| 783s | say this is something that I know you |
| 785s | guys have asked for a lot we have some |
| 789s | ideas cooking in the background that we |
| 793s | are hoping to get out sooner rather than |
| 798s | later it's just a matter of how do I say |
| 803s | this there's some things that we work on |
| 808s | us as pet projects that we know really |
| 812s | really delivered to certain desires of |
| 815s | the community I suppose certain certain |
| 817s | wishes of things that you guys have |
| 818s | asked for for a long time they often |
| 821s | take aside a sideline to other bigger |
| 825s | things because we need to look after the |
| 827s | whole community and so there are some |
| 831s | things that we've been working on on the |
| 833s | sidelines I can't say when they're |
| 835s | coming out I can't say if they're going |
| 837s | to answer what you have in your mind |
| 839s | about water lines bookmarks are but they |
| 842s | are things that are being worked on that |
| 844s | I hope will get into your heads you know |
| 847s | rather than later and and maybe go after |
| 850s | that because I have a mic and I also |
| 856s | have a voice |
| 858s | so I mean it's a little embarrassing to |
| 861s | sit on panels for decades asking about |
| 863s | the Lions bookmarks and we never really |
| 865s | have a good answer a it's a it's a it's |
| 869s | pretty fundamental in the the whole of |
| 872s | the Eve architecture why alliance |
| 875s | bookmarks are |
| 876s | really difficult to make it involves a |
| 878s | construct we created 20 years ago called |
| 880s | the DP row and that has certain |
| 883s | limitation with Alliance bookmarks and |
| 885s | frankly some aspects of Eve males rap up |
| 888s | against extremely critically |
| 891s | so while Alliance bookmarks sound like a |
| 893s | little same we have core pockmarks why |
| 895s | can't we have Alliance bookmarks they |
| 898s | like trigger this weak point in the in |
| 901s | the architecture able to do them well we |
| 904s | actually have to create a whole new |
| 906s | construct on how you manage persistent |
| 910s | state in the database over to the user |
| 911s | interface of him online it is done with |
| 913s | the system called the DP bro which is |
| 915s | extremely efficient and allows even line |
| 918s | to be so sophisticated in terms of like |
| 921s | them its axial nests in space but |
| 924s | Alliance book Mars posts it beyond its |
| 926s | limits so we have to take a pretty |
| 928s | fundamental |
| 929s | reaaargh it acting on some of those |
| 932s | interaction patterns to be able to do |
| 934s | them well and that's why we are talking |
| 937s | on it as much as we have so that is the |
| 942s | answer it's maybe not a great answer but |
| 945s | that is the reason why we are taking so |
| 948s | long to tackle this it's not because we |
| 950s | don't understand the problem are aware |
| 952s | of the need and all that it is just it |
| 956s | triggers a whole cascade of things we |
| 959s | have to have to do and to to invest the |
| 964s | work in doing that we would have to |
| 965s | forego a lot of other things in the |
| 966s | meantime maintained of in tourism part |
| 977s | of the Watchmen my questions regarding |
| 981s | the sisters a of these we're wondering |
| 983s | if those horrors are going to give us |
| 985s | any capitals can you can you say that |
| 992s | again it's so a yeah they're gonna give |
| 995s | us any capitals here so if we were |
| 999s | releasing new ships according to our new |
| 1002s | company guidelines for how we're making |
| 1004s | announcements I would not |
| 1006s | I can tell you though that if you look |
| 1011s | at everything that we've said this |
| 1014s | weekend you should be looking at try |
| 1018s | Glavine ships in the near future |
| 1020s | sisters of Eve is beloved and it's not |
| 1023s | off the table but it's not on our |
| 1025s | immediate roadmap hello I'm Gavin an |
| 1032s | Aussie from tickle the release of track |
| 1034s | Lavigne ships from concept of idea to |
| 1036s | actually releasing in-game can you guys |
| 1037s | tell us a little bit what that process |
| 1039s | looks like or the work involved yet at |
| 1044s | the try or the release of track Lavigne |
| 1046s | ships from initial concept to actually |
| 1048s | releasing in-game can you guys talk |
| 1049s | about what that process looks like and |
| 1051s | maybe some of the work involved the |
| 1058s | design of the new tech 2 ones and and |
| 1061s | they're performing well and the tech one |
| 1062s | ones just you know from the concept of |
| 1064s | we're going to really struggle avian |
| 1065s | ships to released in game this will be |
| 1068s | size matters I know too much about this |
| 1074s | game so so there were many constructs |
| 1078s | that went into the track libyans one of |
| 1082s | them was is that we have another system |
| 1084s | like DB row called dogma and and that is |
| 1087s | the system that manages all the |
| 1088s | attribute posting man if I like it's all |
| 1093s | the attributes in all the effects and we |
| 1096s | had not made a new weapons effect in a |
| 1100s | long time and we wanted to explore where |
| 1103s | is a different weapons effect from like |
| 1106s | lasers and hybrids and protectors and |
| 1108s | and all the current weapon in fact we |
| 1110s | had and the system underneath is |
| 1113s | actually extremely capable but it's very |
| 1116s | difficult to author new weapon effects |
| 1119s | inside that system but it's it's it's |
| 1123s | very like you can do a lot so CTP Rhys |
| 1127s | is named the telomeres in remembering |
| 1132s | all the dynamics is sometimes a struggle |
| 1134s | it's just not that most people yeah |
| 1136s | exactly |
| 1139s | like that indeed yeah he so he came up |
| 1144s | with this concept of the of the time |
| 1148s | wrapping up or the time is wrapping up |
| 1151s | over time so the the the elements were |
| 1154s | built around that okay we want to |
| 1157s | leverage this new weapon effect to make |
| 1158s | new weapon systems to make new skills so |
| 1161s | that was one strand of the inspiration |
| 1163s | the other strands had more to do with |
| 1166s | the art and but they came together in |
| 1170s | this kind of the way like it's probably |
| 1173s | the best example where we designed |
| 1175s | something end to end from oh here's the |
| 1178s | weapons effect here's the graphics and |
| 1180s | the construct mats it so when you look |
| 1182s | at this yet it all makes sense through |
| 1185s | and through a lot of the early spaces of |
| 1188s | even line the the actual gameplay of |
| 1190s | them and the look of them were kind of |
| 1193s | sort of retrofitted together after the |
| 1195s | fact because we have designers and an |
| 1197s | artist working in isolation and then it |
| 1199s | just kind of came together and then we |
| 1201s | saw that doesn't really fit does it and |
| 1204s | that's why you see turrets kind of just |
| 1206s | like they're juxtaposed on some of the |
| 1207s | ships I won't name any names but with |
| 1210s | the Tri Clarion's it started with his |
| 1212s | weapon in fact the art was built around |
| 1214s | it and that's why they are as cool as |
| 1217s | they are I might add to that and I don't |
| 1221s | know if I'm spoiling something or not |
| 1224s | rise and pointy bits worked on that |
| 1228s | together pointy bits is was one of the |
| 1230s | concept artists on the graphics and |
| 1233s | audio side and has since moved on to new |
| 1236s | projects for him but they worked |
| 1238s | together and came up with the idea of |
| 1240s | the entropic just integrators and that's |
| 1245s | not right is it |
| 1246s | yeah and and originally that was going |
| 1249s | to be a weapon system for anything it |
| 1252s | wasn't just going to be four trillion |
| 1254s | ships and then the ships came out and |
| 1256s | then the design team working on the |
| 1259s | turret for the for the e DS pushed it |
| 1263s | towards those ships specifically and |
| 1265s | then it became a true gravy and weapon |
| 1267s | system specifically because we developed |
| 1269s | that orb that came up off of the hull so |
| 1272s | then |
| 1272s | sort of it started general and then it |
| 1274s | became more isolated and more specific |
| 1277s | until it was just that but the tech that |
| 1280s | was laid down in the design of it is |
| 1282s | there and so the technology in New Eden |
| 1286s | for these things is is present and so |
| 1289s | it's possible for other races or other |
| 1294s | types of ships potentially to develop |
| 1298s | similar weaponry within the world of New |
| 1300s | Eden but of the design process was also |
| 1304s | the feel that we wanted for the NPC's in |
| 1307s | that particular space and some of the |
| 1309s | gameplay we really wanted to have in the |
| 1312s | MPC groups and so while that didn't that |
| 1315s | didn't force her hand at all with the |
| 1317s | design of the missile ships it it did |
| 1320s | give us a little bit of guidance and |
| 1322s | encouragement in different directions I |
| 1325s | know at the time we also looked at |
| 1327s | perhaps breaking away from some of the |
| 1329s | established I guess tropes of the of the |
| 1331s | universe every race has two types of |
| 1334s | Ewok except caldari and all of that sort |
| 1337s | of thing and we thought maybe maybe |
| 1339s | these guys don't have to comply to all |
| 1341s | of the standardized rules across the |
| 1343s | different races it goes for seven from |
| 1348s | tactical supremacy happy birthday |
| 1350s | birthday should we sing happy birthday |
| 1356s | to you know that Chinese really don't |
| 1359s | wanna hear that someone take this I've |
| 1361s | just learned to take like a ten-second |
| 1362s | poles every time so my question is about |
| 1364s | our local skill injectors and the sort |
| 1366s | of exponential growth of basically money |
| 1368s | in assets do you think you guys have |
| 1369s | gone a little too far with the ease of |
| 1372s | access from being able to go from one |
| 1374s | roll call to to default you know etc etc |
| 1377s | and the fact that this is contributing |
| 1380s | to the excessive amounts of like |
| 1381s | tightens supers and all those kind of |
| 1383s | things that are just blobbing the hell |
| 1384s | out of the game right now the fact that |
| 1386s | I've been dropped by a three-day-old |
| 1387s | Titan character is kind of concerning so |
| 1389s | do you guys think you've taken it just a |
| 1391s | little step too far |
| 1391s | are there any plans to maybe look at |
| 1393s | that or do you just enjoy making us hate |
| 1395s | our lives |
| 1401s | so anytime that you attempt to do an |
| 1406s | action in E or really in any game and |
| 1408s | there's one and only one logical choice |
| 1411s | we need to consider doing some design |
| 1414s | work and right now mining is in that |
| 1417s | position to a large degree so we've |
| 1421s | actually had several conversations about |
| 1422s | exactly how we're going to address it |
| 1424s | and we don't have a firm plan yet but it |
| 1427s | does need to be addressed we recognize |
| 1428s | that we need to sit down pull all the |
| 1431s | mining ships out and go like what what |
| 1434s | reason do I have to use this one what |
| 1435s | reason do I have to use this one and |
| 1437s | when we answer that question then we'll |
| 1441s | have a basis to answer all the other |
| 1443s | what about the injectors because that |
| 1444s | seems to be the key part of it because |
| 1446s | that's where you get the multiple roles |
| 1447s | in one guy so having the skills to fly a |
| 1452s | ship is not a problem if the ship is |
| 1456s | balanced so it's actually a great that |
| 1467s | needs event I I heard a great idea last |
| 1470s | night to solve the the mining issue is |
| 1475s | that when you have this massive |
| 1476s | industrial ships there's no downside in |
| 1479s | using them they they they just mind like |
| 1482s | Kevin was saying it's just more more |
| 1484s | more avant on the curve but it doesn't |
| 1486s | really work like that in reality every |
| 1488s | time you use extremely big industrial |
| 1490s | methods you ruin your environments at |
| 1493s | the same time like doing green |
| 1495s | sustainable farming it's a lot of effort |
| 1497s | for better product between industrial |
| 1499s | farming is is leave scorched earth |
| 1503s | behind so the idea i heard about |
| 1506s | yesterday which I found critical is that |
| 1509s | if the big industrial ships destroy the |
| 1512s | resources around the mastermind so they |
| 1515s | would have a strip mining effect where |
| 1517s | they where for every mineral mind they |
| 1519s | destroy ten others from the rocky mining |
| 1521s | from or they cause a danger for the raft |
| 1524s | to explode of course a toxic cloud to |
| 1526s | believe on a massive constellation level |
| 1529s | and things like that and it |
| 1530s | that's an interesting way to bring a |
| 1533s | counter action where we were the only |
| 1535s | mine in your enemy's territory with |
| 1536s | interest in terrestrial mining but at |
| 1538s | home you will be totally sustainable |
| 1540s | mining with lasers because you're like |
| 1543s | it's your cottage industry and you're |
| 1545s | protecting your own region so I think |
| 1547s | like this idea of like global warming |
| 1548s | like scorched earth and so these are |
| 1551s | elements we need to bring more into the |
| 1553s | question of like space harmony and |
| 1555s | protection so just an idea do I need to |
| 1560s | start texting people back in Iceland and |
| 1563s | probably panicking already |
| 1572s | captain endo from tactical supremacy um |
| 1575s | I was just wondering if there was any |
| 1576s | roadmap for the idea of Corp and |
| 1579s | Alliance roles to be a CEO based instead |
| 1581s | of the current system that's something |
| 1587s | that we've spoken about um |
| 1589s | team five-o it's we we maintain a wish |
| 1593s | list of things and one of them is a |
| 1596s | rework of corpse and alliances and in |
| 1598s | particular the roles especially seeing |
| 1600s | as we worked on all those structures and |
| 1602s | their ACL system in the first place it's |
| 1607s | unfortunately quite a long wish list and |
| 1609s | so it's it's not quite at the top |
| 1612s | there's there's other things that we |
| 1614s | want to do first but it is something |
| 1615s | that we have spoken about we'd really |
| 1617s | like to look at how you guys self |
| 1620s | organize I think it's really interesting |
| 1622s | especially we often get requests to up |
| 1626s | the cult members member limits because |
| 1630s | you guys like being in big groups and |
| 1633s | that might solve it for a couple of |
| 1635s | groups but it isn't necessarily solves |
| 1638s | it for everyone and so looking at how |
| 1640s | you guys self organize and therefore how |
| 1644s | you need to share the types of access to |
| 1646s | certain things is an interesting puzzle |
| 1648s | but it's not on our roadmap at the |
| 1650s | moment unfortunately it is something we |
| 1652s | think about that easy thank you |
| 1656s | I want to understand this a little more |
| 1659s | explain why you want to use a CL versus |
| 1662s | the Corporal can you can you well at the |
| 1664s | moment the way the Corp roles work it's |
| 1667s | not very intuitive some roles affect |
| 1669s | things you wouldn't expect like I |
| 1672s | believe to play within I hope you need |
| 1674s | structure management but not the other |
| 1677s | roles and then vice versa and then for |
| 1680s | actual hanger access you only have a sec |
| 1684s | so you've got your X number of hangers |
| 1687s | and you used to be able to use home |
| 1689s | stations but I don't believe that's |
| 1690s | currently working in studios so that |
| 1693s | limits you to one set of hangers but the |
| 1697s | way to when I use ACLs so then you could |
| 1700s | set each hanger individually station |
| 1703s | specifically with an ACO list so like |
| 1706s | Bob can pull from this system this |
| 1709s | hanger okay so you want to larger groups |
| 1720s | you have multiple structures way yeah |
| 1722s | well usually we think that the COPE and |
| 1724s | they just apply it to everybody now they |
| 1726s | wouldn't be able to apply it to a |
| 1728s | certain so it almost would be like in in |
| 1735s | like network security you would say like |
| 1738s | this particular folder has this |
| 1741s | particular like roles yeah you only need |
| 1746s | to be in a co-op to be given access to |
| 1748s | hangar I see so you know instead of |
| 1750s | taking all rows and applying to a Corp |
| 1752s | you want to take the roles and apply it |
| 1753s | to a specific container yeah I see okay |
| 1762s | hello don't tinkle with brave newbies so |
| 1766s | so with the implementation of right our |
| 1771s | oohs and sautés and Athyn oars and tatar |
| 1774s | --is there's this been explosion this |
| 1776s | huge democratization of industry in eve |
| 1780s | in which as we talk as you brought up |
| 1783s | earlier you can mine things pretty much |
| 1785s | everywhere and build what you need to |
| 1786s | build and it spread out from a very |
| 1788s | small teeny crew that was involved in |
| 1791s | that gameplay to now pretty much every |
| 1793s | player in the game can participate in |
| 1795s | this so that has been a very positive |
| 1797s | thing especially for new players they |
| 1799s | can build one thing to do that so when I |
| 1801s | hear discussion of well maybe we need to |
| 1803s | restrict that and go back to everything |
| 1805s | has to go to jitta we get the same |
| 1807s | effect like with contaminated Laurence |
| 1809s | fluid which is super expensive because |
| 1810s | it only comes out of one place how do |
| 1812s | you balance the pain that people who |
| 1815s | want to engage in this would now endure |
| 1817s | of I can't get it locally I can and I |
| 1820s | can't get this off a local market versus |
| 1824s | we're gonna create conflict because you |
| 1825s | have to go there how do you balance |
| 1828s | those things and I don't need the answer |
| 1834s | I just how do you prod you decide so I'm |
| 1838s | gonna of deftly avoid answering that in |
| 1841s | specific but generally speaking you you |
| 1847s | need to have multiple levels of |
| 1848s | engagement so new players should be able |
| 1854s | to access most systems not every system |
| 1857s | I was about to say that but that's not |
| 1858s | true a and there needs to be an entry |
| 1862s | point and needs to be things for them to |
| 1863s | do but that does not necessarily mean |
| 1865s | that they have to do everything so you |
| 1867s | can take a lot of that extra |
| 1869s | complication or extra steps and just |
| 1872s | bump it up so that it's it doesn't |
| 1876s | prevent you from getting involved with |
| 1878s | the system it just prevents you from |
| 1879s | mastering it and do you think that leads |
| 1882s | to conflict or does it just mean to more |
| 1884s | jump writers in outer jitta it honestly |
| 1887s | depends on how you that depends on the |
| 1891s | specifics which I don't think the person |
| 1894s | qualified to answer that is |
| 1895s | here thank you well since nobody's |
| 1899s | qualified opinions I I think what you're |
| 1907s | looking for like in terms of like you |
| 1909s | say balance out it's a it's a |
| 1911s | misunderstanding that you can balance a |
| 1914s | game like him online |
| 1914s | there's no staple equilibrium that |
| 1918s | exists that is gonna keep humans engaged |
| 1920s | so you have to like balance unbalanced |
| 1924s | and and it's more about the movement and |
| 1926s | the chains than it is a bringing about |
| 1929s | some perfect balance a perfectly |
| 1931s | balanced even line would be that boring |
| 1933s | we maybe are living in the current to |
| 1936s | Paul and Steve online so there isn't |
| 1939s | like a solution to the problem but the |
| 1942s | the the lack of movement I would say is |
| 1945s | there is the current issue there's just |
| 1948s | some of these things have just gone too |
| 1951s | stagnant and and and and just changing |
| 1954s | them even if it's bad changes which I |
| 1957s | wouldn't necessarily promote but they're |
| 1959s | better than no changes |
| 1961s | that's the I would say is the worst |
| 1963s | situation right now it's just there |
| 1965s | there we are too indecisive because we |
| 1968s | are afraid to make mistakes |
| 1969s | because it's extremely painful to make |
| 1971s | mistakes with this I know I'm aligned |
| 1974s | but it's also extremely painful to just |
| 1977s | what's the the game crystallize in in |
| 1980s | action and it's currently doing i I |
| 1982s | can't speak the design subside but I |
| 1984s | can't speak to the economic side which |
| 1986s | is I think a goal would be to have |
| 1988s | social mobility like there's a large |
| 1991s | concentration of wealth but if if a |
| 1994s | system can be designed by our wonderful |
| 1995s | designers that allow social mobility |
| 1998s | between the different strata from new |
| 2000s | players to experienced players and |
| 2001s | what-have-you and creative destruction |
| 2002s | in that system as well to bring the |
| 2004s | people at the top perhaps down a couple |
| 2006s | of notches I think that would be ideal |
| 2013s | hi I'm Vangelis from work girl |
| 2016s | supers I'm from lowsec and excluding |
| 2021s | faction warfare I'm not involved in that |
| 2023s | there's a distinct lack of conflict |
| 2026s | drivers in low second moment especially |
| 2029s | since the Moon mining changes if you |
| 2032s | look at our discourse all pings just |
| 2034s | about poking a structure or just trying |
| 2037s | to bait someone it's all things we go |
| 2040s | out of our way to do to get a fight |
| 2042s | rather than actually fighting over |
| 2044s | something that we want there any |
| 2046s | thoughts or plans to introduce something |
| 2050s | desirable in lowsec that big groups can |
| 2054s | really get stuck in to each other |
| 2063s | so her team has several plans to do that |
| 2068s | a lot of them are currently on hold for |
| 2073s | various reasons but we do recognize that |
| 2076s | it's important and you mentioned |
| 2078s | excluding factional warfare redoing |
| 2082s | factional warfare is pretty high a lot |
| 2085s | of people's lists including our creative |
| 2087s | director so I think rather than |
| 2092s | excluding correctional warfare from the |
| 2094s | equation we would be designing it to be |
| 2098s | more engaging to everyone and to provide |
| 2100s | those goals that you're talking about |
| 2108s | find noise from horn Amaya so while on |
| 2111s | CEOs asked me today yes what if anything |
| 2116s | does CCCP have on the horizon to help |
| 2119s | content creators of small groups be |
| 2121s | successful or even incentivized to put |
| 2125s | little full-time job effort to make it |
| 2127s | happy near nave I didn't catch the end |
| 2131s | of that sorry so he wants to know what |
| 2135s | is on the horizon for the content |
| 2138s | creators of small groups to be |
| 2139s | successful or even in sensitized to put |
| 2142s | in a little full-time job effort to make |
| 2144s | it happen in eight so we actually for |
| 2149s | this year had a program that we were |
| 2151s | working on which unfortunately is on |
| 2153s | hold for right now but we're trying to |
| 2155s | do a different approaches and tactics to |
| 2157s | help surface conduct content creators |
| 2161s | especially in there on Twitch or like |
| 2162s | fan sites to provide them support to |
| 2166s | basically allow them to do the things |
| 2168s | that are doing best and help them get |
| 2172s | the exposure they need and bring the |
| 2175s | content they're doing closer to the |
| 2176s | players themselves like I cannot really |
| 2178s | give you any specifics right now but we |
| 2180s | very much recognize that we can be doing |
| 2183s | a better job in terms of supporting our |
| 2185s | content creators and this is something |
| 2188s | we want to be doing moving forward Pease |
| 2199s | passing pleasure seekers I was wondering |
| 2202s | if there's metrics for player attention |
| 2204s | for players who start immediately start |
| 2207s | playing the game with a friend either |
| 2209s | that friends new as well or experienced |
| 2212s | and if there is that increased retention |
| 2214s | some sort of buddy system for new |
| 2218s | players that can immediately team up |
| 2220s | with someone who's experienced at the |
| 2221s | game and possibly go through the various |
| 2224s | elements of Eve together and then maybe |
| 2226s | eventually join the the court with them |
| 2228s | or then help other people yes yes |
| 2237s | yes there there is a body system both |
| 2244s | for those that are invited into the game |
| 2247s | that both invitee and the inviter get |
| 2250s | rewards for and they have also been |
| 2253s | somebody I don't know how far they've |
| 2256s | gotten but there's been a bunch of ideas |
| 2258s | of reworking that system because |
| 2260s | recruiting a friend or joining with a |
| 2262s | friend has such a big impact there have |
| 2266s | been sorry this is ridiculous I'm sorry |
| 2270s | I know that yeah it just it's just |
| 2274s | better we we are focusing on that and |
| 2276s | we're always trying to find a the best |
| 2279s | way there's also talk about trying to |
| 2281s | push people closer or at least |
| 2284s | highlighting the community type |
| 2287s | initiatives where people join in small |
| 2291s | groups or go on open rooms or or things |
| 2293s | like that because becoming involved as |
| 2295s | somebody who's going to teach you what |
| 2297s | to do pull them through those early |
| 2299s | stages in the game has a huge impact on |
| 2301s | that we also slightly actually saw |
| 2315s | dragon member of Darkness and also one |
| 2318s | of the CSM members we've the election |
| 2320s | now coming and the the people who have |
| 2324s | been announced the one thing that we |
| 2326s | find our CSM members is we know how |
| 2329s | important we are to you the problem is |
| 2332s | the player base doesn't know how |
| 2333s | important we are to you and I would |
| 2337s | prefer that you guys would when it comes |
| 2341s | to some of the NDA stuff a little bit |
| 2343s | needs to be relaxed but at least when it |
| 2345s | comes to the election time now |
| 2347s | especially Hilma who sat with us before |
| 2349s | and explained how important you are to |
| 2350s | our to you I think with the election |
| 2353s | coming it would be very important to |
| 2354s | have the players know how you guys feel |
| 2356s | and how important is to vote even if |
| 2358s | it's not for me or any of the other CSA |
| 2360s | members that are here but how important |
| 2362s | it is to have a healthy Council that |
| 2365s | represents everybody because everybody |
| 2367s | gets hadn't votes and not just the |
| 2369s | blocks of the insinuate |
| 2370s | that only blocks vote yeah I totally |
| 2373s | agree in terms of us needing to do a |
| 2377s | better job in communicating the value |
| 2380s | that the system brings to us and also |
| 2382s | the impact and all the different either |
| 2384s | ideas or things you guys are helping us |
| 2387s | with I'm not entirely sure if changing |
| 2389s | the NDA is the way to go about it |
| 2391s | but there are definitely different ways |
| 2393s | we can approach that subject just just |
| 2395s | out on the NDA it's not changed in India |
| 2397s | I've seen it is important otherwise we |
| 2398s | will be able to give you any help but |
| 2400s | the question that I have is sometimes |
| 2402s | there are people saying like why are we |
| 2405s | so heavily bound by it and I'm not |
| 2406s | saying we shouldn't be but explaining |
| 2408s | what the NDA is to the CSM and it's not |
| 2411s | just three letters and what you expect |
| 2413s | from in a mob as a an agreement with |
| 2416s | both parties why we agree to it and what |
| 2419s | comes from it like it's not about |
| 2420s | removing it but I don't know if I'm |
| 2422s | making sense yeah III think the only |
| 2424s | real answer to this is just to own port |
| 2427s | this I I think over the pastor of two to |
| 2431s | three years the productive relationship |
| 2435s | between CCP and the CSM has increased |
| 2438s | massively like we've gone up and down |
| 2441s | over the whatever 12 years we've had the |
| 2444s | current cycle of CSM you actually had a |
| 2447s | CSM back in 2003 also where we |
| 2449s | hand-picked people which is often |
| 2451s | forgotten but since we rebooted it in |
| 2454s | its current form it's gone all over the |
| 2457s | map but the past two to three years have |
| 2459s | been extremely good like extremely good |
| 2462s | the past few CSM's have done a |
| 2465s | phenomenal job on on building trust with |
| 2468s | the developers and vice versa and it's a |
| 2470s | it's in a zone apart from some recent |
| 2474s | elements which maybe maybe whatever it's |
| 2478s | just this but it is so I think maybe are |
| 2480s | doing a better job of expressing that |
| 2482s | outwards is probably something we have |
| 2485s | just assumed happens on its own so I I |
| 2491s | think what you're telling us is that we |
| 2494s | should do a better job of relating how |
| 2497s | productive it has been in the last two |
| 2498s | to three years because sometimes it's |
| 2501s | been pretty pants |
| 2502s | and oft and that became more public when |
| 2506s | things are going really well nobody |
| 2507s | hears about them but they're going |
| 2508s | poorly for sure people hear about it so |
| 2510s | I I would just say like the past two to |
| 2513s | three years have been really good |
| 2514s | brought a lot of value and and we should |
| 2518s | just say that more why I I guess there |
| 2521s | is no other answer than that so I have |
| 2524s | one more question that kind of links to |
| 2525s | that because I know the answer to it but |
| 2527s | it's obviously something that I want you |
| 2528s | to tell the players when we went in |
| 2530s | January to the summit it was a shock for |
| 2532s | the CSM to see so many new people at the |
| 2535s | company it was uplifting it was also |
| 2539s | good to see could you explain the |
| 2542s | positive aspects of pearl abyss having |
| 2545s | on CCP in this year in the future and |
| 2548s | how you feel it's been a puzzle had a |
| 2550s | positive effect on your company I mean |
| 2552s | the the the reason why we partnered with |
| 2555s | poly base is that CCP before horse owned |
| 2558s | by investors and investors eventually |
| 2561s | want to sell their shares either by |
| 2564s | going public or selling to strategic |
| 2567s | partner and and it does matter who owns |
| 2570s | the company it just thoughts I've been a |
| 2572s | CEO for what now since 2004 |
| 2576s | whatever that is 15 years and it was |
| 2579s | tossed matter and it was just the right |
| 2581s | time to change the the the ownership of |
| 2586s | the company and we went through a whole |
| 2588s | process of doing that and we talked to |
| 2590s | think about 40 different entities yeah |
| 2594s | let me get to it it's a bit of a speech |
| 2596s | Siana can talk so somebody has to talk |
| 2599s | so and and out of that we picked |
| 2602s | holidays and and that because they are |
| 2606s | MMO developers personal platinum outs |
| 2608s | over us it allows us to do much more |
| 2611s | long-term investment like I hope you're |
| 2613s | seeing in some of the the things |
| 2614s | representing now some of the things |
| 2617s | we're doing especially on the tax side |
| 2618s | make no sense unless you're building for |
| 2621s | decades to come and that is a function |
| 2623s | of them really having an appreciation |
| 2625s | and understanding of what we do and how |
| 2628s | we do it and why it's important and then |
| 2630s | also having a mock review on a most like |
| 2634s | they are an MMO developer |
| 2636s | out of Korea which is frankly the |
| 2637s | perfect place of mmo's really if you |
| 2639s | look at it from Kingdom of the winds |
| 2641s | over to black desert so that just |
| 2645s | changed it's our posture much more I |
| 2648s | think than people realize |
| 2649s | so that allows us to like do more |
| 2652s | long-term investment in Thailand to more |
| 2654s | long-term investment in pack even if |
| 2657s | they don't bear fruit immediately that |
| 2659s | it allows us to take a look at some of |
| 2661s | the fundamental aspects of human line |
| 2663s | which need to be taken a look at to |
| 2666s | build the game for decades to come |
| 2669s | so real quick I want to take a step back |
| 2675s | talking about the CSM I wanted to share |
| 2677s | a story you asked us to more accurately |
| 2682s | talk about the good aspects of dealing |
| 2684s | with CSM and this one does not violate |
| 2687s | any NDA's but it's already shipped so |
| 2689s | the last time the CSM came to iceland a |
| 2692s | week or so before CCP Ryze had come to |
| 2696s | me I'm the design director for those of |
| 2698s | you don't know and said that he wanted |
| 2700s | to do some ship rebalancing and he had a |
| 2702s | list and I told him no it does not fit |
| 2706s | in our 2019 goals came back a week or so |
| 2710s | later and said the CSM wants to talk |
| 2713s | about this and they have a lot of the |
| 2715s | same ideas that I do and so it's like |
| 2718s | the CSM is bringing to us we're honor |
| 2720s | bound to sort of pay attention and and |
| 2722s | listen to it and give it a fair shake |
| 2724s | and we did we had one meeting and then |
| 2727s | at the end of that meeting the decision |
| 2730s | was made it was like okay now go back |
| 2732s | and ask talk about specifics in a second |
| 2734s | meeting because we're absolutely doing |
| 2735s | this now so the recent shipper balance |
| 2738s | is an example of CSM coming to us with |
| 2741s | concerns that we we knew were problems |
| 2744s | but we're not high on our to-do list and |
| 2746s | changing our priorities and creating a |
| 2748s | positive effect many many ortega B |
| 2755s | Brewers cooperative while I applaud what |
| 2760s | the CCP have done for those with vision |
| 2764s | impairment you might say is there any |
| 2770s | add-on that can be done for those in |
| 2773s | that actual gameplay itself because you |
| 2776s | also have not just those with color |
| 2778s | blindness but also with things such as |
| 2780s | photophobia where you have going into a |
| 2784s | system you've got bright lights coming |
| 2785s | straight at the face rather than have to |
| 2787s | wear something like yellow glasses or |
| 2790s | red tinted glasses and things like that |
| 2792s | and can that be addressed in some some |
| 2796s | manner in the game so I can't directly |
| 2803s | answer that question because I have not |
| 2804s | the art director but I have seen |
| 2806s | technology in the past couple of weeks |
| 2809s | that we've been working on which could |
| 2812s | be used to do that or I should say might |
| 2815s | be used to do that I'm not the art |
| 2816s | director so I don't know that for sure |
| 2818s | and I did talk to you yesterday and I'm |
| 2820s | absolutely going to bring your concerns |
| 2822s | to the attention of the our director |
| 2824s | well apologize for sending all that holo |
| 2827s | porn last night no apologies necessary |
| 2831s | for last night from anybody hopefully |
| 2833s | I'll make mention quickly because it's |
| 2837s | not just a art concern some of those |
| 2839s | issues are our quality concerns as well |
| 2841s | which I know that the color blindness |
| 2844s | mode that was implemented was heavily |
| 2847s | advocated both by the team that worked |
| 2850s | on it and specifically their QA who is |
| 2852s | CCP the funk who is tremendous and I |
| 2855s | hope he's at home watching but we all |
| 2857s | push for improving accessibility for |
| 2861s | you've online and whether that's making |
| 2863s | tweaks to our settings to enable people |
| 2864s | to adjust the things that they see or |
| 2867s | the things that their system whether |
| 2870s | it's biological or a technological can |
| 2872s | handle we we like introducing that stuff |
| 2875s | we love opening the game up to people to |
| 2880s | anyone and if it's if it's simple if |
| 2883s | it's something like putting on a filter |
| 2885s | or reducing flashing effects that that |
| 2888s | might cause reactions for some people |
| 2892s | well certainly I mean it's a it's a no |
| 2895s | brainer to take that on board and to |
| 2897s | investigate how to apply it and then |
| 2899s | to go ahead and move on that when it |
| 2901s | becomes more complex we we want to get |
| 2903s | it right and that's that's what really |
| 2906s | takes up the bulk of time there the the |
| 2907s | color blindness mode was not a simple |
| 2909s | addition there were a lot of other |
| 2911s | changes that needed to take place both |
| 2913s | with visual assets and with UI elements |
| 2915s | in order to make sure that it works and |
| 2917s | we don't like putting something out |
| 2918s | there and saying hey here we go and not |
| 2920s | having it do the job that it needs to do |
| 2922s | so so that's that's one of the key |
| 2926s | blockers there is making sure that what |
| 2928s | we deliver does what it says on the tin |
| 2930s | and provides for the people that it |
| 2932s | needs a pipe or tickle so China has a |
| 2947s | server serenity is that correct |
| 2951s | so there's talk about Chinese community |
| 2955s | coming over to tranquility some |
| 2959s | wondering if that means anything to you |
| 2961s | or it's just business as usual so we |
| 2967s | have long wanted to integrate the |
| 2970s | communities of serenity and tranquility |
| 2973s | together so it could be one community |
| 2976s | even if it's two separate servers and I |
| 2981s | think the fact that it's taken us a |
| 2985s | while to transition in China as I opened |
| 2988s | up this situation where the Chinese |
| 2992s | players are kind of integrating the |
| 2994s | communities for us I think that's a |
| 2997s | really positive thing and it seems to be |
| 2999s | a very positive thing here in Australia |
| 3001s | because the UK shares time zone so |
| 3003s | there's more action in your time zone so |
| 3006s | I think it's great so I don't saying - |
| 3015s | he much about like you're traveling to |
| 3017s | China to me like what are the numbers |
| 3020s | like compared to tranquility versus |
| 3023s | China |
| 3024s | so right now we're in a closed beta in |
| 3027s | the transition in China so I mean the |
| 3031s | Tau is actually quite high but but we |
| 3034s | can't really comment on it in any detail |
| 3036s | until we go through the license |
| 3039s | application which the government has now |
| 3043s | started to approve games and and the |
| 3045s | even if they're doing it at a slower |
| 3046s | rate than before I think we are pretty |
| 3049s | high in the stack for lack of a better |
| 3050s | word so once we're through that then we |
| 3054s | will start to communicate more about |
| 3056s | what we will do in China with naty's |
| 3059s | which would be different than what we |
| 3061s | did in China with density weight not |
| 3071s | cross naked oil body builders no |
| 3074s | question about the eighty you mentioned |
| 3076s | the last eighty when we had to close it |
| 3077s | that you're gonna help out with play run |
| 3079s | tournaments but would the Thunderdome |
| 3080s | being destroyed we had anger management |
| 3082s | not banger games don't work we had |
| 3084s | trouble with stream fleets showdown |
| 3085s | Wednesday it's all gonna be functional |
| 3087s | and working I guess so first of all the |
| 3095s | tournament tool was never a part of the |
| 3097s | support that we're offering for this |
| 3098s | year one of the reasons why we've put a |
| 3101s | halt on 80 was exactly to reevaluate our |
| 3105s | options and the way we can be doing |
| 3108s | things the tournament two was one of the |
| 3110s | blockers that we you know we can |
| 3111s | identify like the state of it it's not |
| 3114s | being in a way that it's allowing us to |
| 3117s | properly actually run tournaments and |
| 3119s | also give it to the to the community |
| 3121s | itself we haven't had the concrete |
| 3125s | discussions for the next year just yet |
| 3127s | as were strongly focusing on the war |
| 3129s | tour and everything that is happening |
| 3130s | right now but we very much are trying to |
| 3133s | help the community organizers to run |
| 3138s | their events or tournaments this year |
| 3140s | obviously with with the tools and the |
| 3143s | resources that we have right now we |
| 3146s | there is just one more guy that has a |
| 3148s | question so we'll just let him ask his |
| 3150s | question and then you guys can finally |
| 3151s | get off the stage |
| 3154s | sorry Marcy Hillman um just one |
| 3158s | commenting a question like you guys have |
| 3160s | miss you down the road map but I've |
| 3161s | counted 25 pieces right now that on your |
| 3162s | roadmap the question I have is jitters a |
| 3166s | chokepoint economically I think a lot of |
| 3168s | the Wardak behavior and a lot of this |
| 3169s | sort of behavior in general seems to |
| 3171s | consult it around the Jedi are sort of |
| 3172s | perimeter regions and so forth have you |
| 3174s | guys given much thought to way you can |
| 3176s | displace that so send things out to more |
| 3178s | regional areas and sort of break the |
| 3180s | back of that thing a little bit more to |
| 3181s | disperse content I guess that comes back |
| 3188s | to how we were talking earlier or how |
| 3191s | him I was talking earlier this is it's |
| 3195s | definitely a needful for change things |
| 3197s | staying the same way but also we I know |
| 3202s | it's now going to be counter to what he |
| 3204s | says about the fear of changing certain |
| 3206s | things when you have something like |
| 3209s | jitta and perimeter to some extent |
| 3212s | around it which is basically become what |
| 3214s | it is because of your actions and game |
| 3217s | if we come along and start poking holes |
| 3219s | and things and changing things in ways |
| 3221s | that we don't look at all the aspects |
| 3224s | that are there it's there's no telling |
| 3227s | what what will happen which in some |
| 3230s | cases is good and and in other cases is |
| 3232s | bad it's just I think in highsec it's a |
| 3235s | little bit different because that's |
| 3236s | where all of our new players are and so |
| 3239s | creating so much chaos in a place then |
| 3243s | we can't predict what's going to happen |
| 3244s | and you also need to make sure that we |
| 3247s | have not necessarily safe but certainly |
| 3252s | a space that we can just that newer |
| 3255s | players can at least predict what will |
| 3257s | happen as they're learning the game it |
| 3260s | becomes difficult if we shake up too |
| 3262s | much in the safe space I I would very |
| 3267s | much agree with Shona because like in |
| 3270s | the outer space of human liners to be |
| 3272s | wild west and it should be chaotic |
| 3274s | dangerous and and all that but the flip |
| 3277s | side is where highsec space comes in |
| 3280s | it's like it's it's a it's a very human |
| 3283s | thing to develop stable structure there |
| 3286s | like Rome |
| 3287s | Rome it's been Rome for 2,000 years and |
| 3290s | and it's there and you can depend on it |
| 3293s | and it's part of the legacy so I |
| 3295s | actually think how tira has become this |
| 3297s | massive traitor which is completely a |
| 3299s | merchant nobody picked IRA as being a |
| 3302s | traitor and I guess it was you like |
| 3304s | before and we try to break that up with |
| 3305s | a when we broke up you lie and then we |
| 3308s | go Teta so I think we would rather lean |
| 3311s | into the fact that Dida has become like |
| 3313s | a Nasdaq or a New York Stock Exchange |
| 3315s | and I would rather build that up as the |
| 3318s | sort of here's worthy the massive secure |
| 3322s | large-scale trading occurs and then you |
| 3325s | will not have a natural dynamics or |
| 3327s | flowing from the outer regions into into |
| 3330s | the the main trade market which is again |
| 3332s | it's a very human pattern that just |
| 3334s | emerges so as much as I would like to |
| 3336s | Fox it up in the outer regions I would |
| 3339s | like to build up high sex base even more |
| 3341s | to lean into what you guys are built in |
| 3343s | terms of infrastructure there but if you |
| 3347s | were to consolidate in terms of high |
| 3349s | tech in terms of new players in that |
| 3350s | area to sort of cultivate and nurture |
| 3352s | and sort of create a bit of an |
| 3354s | incubation system going but the history |
| 3357s | and that the behavior today is that's |
| 3358s | where most of these people feed on that |
| 3360s | behavior to so they will do the negative |
| 3362s | it's not just the positive so things |
| 3364s | like ganking knowing full well the |
| 3366s | Concord has delays or has cured delays |
| 3368s | that get to it so it kind of creates |
| 3370s | this feeding behavior as well as much as |
| 3372s | a positive and a negative so when that |
| 3375s | keep going then that would be counter to |
| 3376s | ative to the whole life cycle growth of |
| 3379s | a new player yeah and I guess that then |
| 3385s | becomes more of a discussion about |
| 3387s | what's the evolution of the city as city |
| 3390s | becomes as everybody floods in and grows |
| 3392s | and everybody becomes much in class and |
| 3394s | starts prosper and get more but then the |
| 3397s | the wealth inequality starts to seep in |
| 3400s | and you get your you get your slums yeah |
| 3404s | sorry I'm not trying to offend anybody |
| 3407s | you might |
| 3410s | but but you you get that that stage |
| 3413s | where the the different types of |
| 3415s | behaviour and people will feed on other |
| 3417s | people and and therefore you added a |
| 3419s | different type of ecosystem within that |
| 3422s | space and so letting that keep its own |
| 3426s | evolution to see where that would |
| 3429s | progress to because as we said we didn't |
| 3431s | make Teeter you heisted and how that |
| 3434s | evolves and what happens when those that |
| 3437s | live here revolt or those I don't know |
| 3441s | it's it's what happens if that city is |
| 3444s | allowed to become a metropolis or or |
| 3447s | take over an even larger area of space |
| 3449s | it's I think it's one of the stories of |
| 3453s | Eve that you guys keep creating that |
| 3456s | keeps going on and on and jitta is one |
| 3458s | of those evolving stories and so letting |
| 3461s | it do its own thing is probably her just |
| 3464s | have to see where it goes all right |
| 3467s | thank you very much everybody for your |
| 3470s | questions and could I say one more thing |
| 3471s | sorry no so pretty please so on your |
| 3475s | last point about safety of new players |
| 3480s | the problem is not that jitta is not |
| 3483s | safe for new players or that any system |
| 3485s | is not safe for new players the problem |
| 3487s | is that we have systems to message how |
| 3489s | safe a system is right now if you go to |
| 3492s | the right place at the right time you |
| 3493s | can look and you can see how many people |
| 3494s | were killed in the last hour in any |
| 3496s | system in EVE the problem is that we |
| 3499s | don't message that well to new players |
| 3501s | so a lot of these problems are are are |
| 3505s | solvable and need to be solved but not |
| 3507s | necessarily in the most direct |
| 3509s | traditional way that we've solved them |
| 3511s | in the past thank you very much to |
| 3514s | everybody who asked questions and to our |
| 3516s | lovely panel on the stage if your |
| 3519s | question wasn't answered there will be a |
| 3521s | 2 a.m. a in the roundtable room with CCP |
| 3524s | mimic |
| 3531s | the the the shirts have arrived so as |
| 3536s | you leave today you can go and collect |
| 3539s | your shirts we've back here tomorrow at |
| 3542s | 11 a.m. a late staff everybody who has a |
| 3544s | hangover and we'll see you guys then |
| 3547s | thanks very much have a great night |
| 3551s | [Laughter] |