[2023] EVE Online | EVE Fanfest 2023 - Becoming a Tycoon | EVE Online Dev Tracker

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1s	all right oh it's on okay good
4s	hello
6s	so I'm excited to be here
9s	um how many people do Market stuff
12s	okay okay good good I'm
14s	makes me a little less nervous so uh my
18s	presentation is just what I've been
20s	doing
21s	uh for like the past four years
23s	um
24s	so I'm gonna get it started
28s	so I wanted to find like what a tycoon
31s	is uh the in-game definition is just uh
35s	managing large-scale Market orders
38s	um actual definition wealthy powerful
41s	person in business or industry
44s	and then why am I a tycoon well first I
48s	Got 5 500 Market orders listed in 17
51s	locations all over Eve
54s	um and I might be expanding soon for 18
58s	300 Market locations or way much more
62s	I get a little excessive I just started
64s	making characters and it just kept going
67s	uh so I have a trillion isk in open
72s	market orders uh mainly funded through
74s	investors
77s	uh and then 150 200 billion in Revenue
80s	uh each month
82s	which I'm on track to actually be
84s	hitting over 200 billion per month now
86s	with some changes that I'm doing and uh
89s	1.96 trillion to date sold in in all the
93s	regions in Eve uh I think the last time
96s	I looked at it this is old this is like
97s	1.6 trillion that I've sold so far this
100s	year
102s	uh and my margins right around like 40
105s	percent on top of like that 1.6 trillion
109s	so far
110s	uh and then my profits a month are like
113s	60 billion a month uh 451 billion when
117s	this was made were sitting almost at
119s	like 600 billion for the year for the
122s	for the total year for my profits
125s	uh and then I've done 319 000 Market
128s	transactions uh
131s	to date this year I'm doing essentially
134s	two transactions per minute no matter
136s	what 24 hours a day in the game
140s	uh and then uh I've sold to 3 32 713
146s	individual Pilots through all throughout
149s	Eve so I'm I'm helping the economy I
152s	guess
153s	so how it all started
156s	um
156s	was I started running level four
158s	missions using material uh
161s	I needed more Tech 2 ammo I'm sure
164s	everybody needed that you know hey I
166s	gotta open up the market I gotta look
167s	and I gotta buy something because I'm
169s	doing something in Eve uh so I opened up
172s	looking for some quake and Tremor
175s	um
177s	I asked myself asked why you know in the
180s	past 20 years of Eve
182s	is there still like none of this on the
184s	market or if it's or it's a highly
186s	inflated price
188s	so I then I just said you know effort
191s	I'm going to make my own market and
193s	that's how it all started this is like
194s	if somebody's not going to do it or
196s	hasn't done it I'll just do it myself
199s	so this is a picture of just Placid with
203s	the like quake and Tremor and this was
206s	taken like a month or two ago
208s	so you can still see like stackmon
212s	in Orville I'm literally there's one
214s	other person selling the the ammo so
218s	even after four years of me doing this
219s	I'm still like
221s	the only person selling the ammo that I
223s	need for my level five four missions
227s	um
228s	so the beginning
231s	so how I started out is I started
234s	running level five missions
236s	saved up 25 billion isk
240s	and then I had to think up a Persona
242s	Eden trade it took me like two days of
245s	thinking hard a perfect character name
247s	all that
249s	and the ones that I wanted were taken so
253s	uh and then I decided to just buy a
256s	fordazar and flap flopped it down in
258s	stackmon
260s	um
261s	for some reason nobody blew it up for
264s	four years until you know the goons came
266s	in like two months ago and killed it
268s	very upset about that
272s	uh and then I picked stackmon the in the
274s	name was easy to say so a lot of my
277s	locations that I choose were just easy
279s	system names to say
281s	uh and then I created a massive very
285s	massive time-consuming spreadsheet of
287s	all the items I wanted to sell in Eve
290s	which I hand copied and pasted these in
293s	four years ago and then you can see all
296s	I have like all the uh different uh
300s	places of Eve it took me about a whole
303s	weekend 20 hours to make this
306s	so
308s	sorry we got to slow down because we're
311s	adjusting the market orders too fast
315s	I just had to put that in there because
317s	you know when I have to update 15 000
319s	Market orders it's uh and then I get 16
321s	seconds because I'm going too fast and
323s	Eve
325s	I don't know if anybody else has
326s	actually seen that I've gotten it up to
327s	like 27 seconds I had to I timed out for
330s	so
332s	uh
334s	and then this is just another thing like
338s	that whole sheet that I just previously
340s	mentioned this is me like when I first
342s	started out I was comparing my
345s	spreadsheet to what I had listed in the
346s	game so I had to click on everything in
348s	the game
350s	um to restock just stackmon took me 15
353s	hours on a Saturday after work
357s	um
358s	yes it's gotten a lot better so
363s	so
364s	after I created my spreadsheet I bought
367s	everything I could for 24 billion and I
369s	shipped it down to stackmon where I
371s	first opened up
373s	um I bought a freighter to move it
376s	and essentially I just went to jittah by
378s	all I just kind of
381s	took a
382s	what do you call it
384s	a gamble I was like hopefully this cells
389s	so then I posted all those Market orders
391s	around 1200 Market orders and I set the
394s	duration for two weeks
396s	um
397s	that's not good because then I had 1200
399s	Market orders falling off in two two
401s	weeks so I had to re-list all of those
404s	that was probably the biggest mistake I
407s	did when I first started out
410s	so then that was about another 10 hours
411s	of posting orders
413s	uh so stack one was working out really
416s	well I was making some risk
418s	but I wanted to expand so I had to
425s	set it so I set up 300 300 wooden snow
428s	uh set up three three markets by 2020
431s	with my own is just still running level
433s	five those are some of the locations
436s	some of those stats that I pulled from
438s	my old Discord were like stackmon was
442s	like nine billion in profits
444s	7.3 from had a Connie and then my daily
449s	transactions were around like five to
452s	eight hundred transactions per day
454s	um and then I had close to like 5 000
456s	Market orders set up by then
460s	so I wanted to expand more and faster uh
463s	just because running 20 hours of level
467s	five missions
468s	on the weekends was just gonna take me
471s	way too slow so I created a post on the
473s	forums asking for 110 billion-esque I'm
477s	surprised people actually paid me
480s	but I did have Market data to you know
482s	back it up I was like you can go to
483s	stackmon buy my market stuff you can see
486s	that you know I'm not trying to scam you
489s	um so surprisingly I got funded very
492s	quickly I think it was like the end of
493s	February so it took uh
496s	like three four weeks to get 110 billion
500s	uh and then I had six Market hubs going
503s	with with 110 billion funding uh I set
507s	up in there I did one nulsek one as well
509s	to try that out
513s	um it only got called a scammer a few
515s	times
516s	so
517s	uh and then February through July 2020
522s	uh I had to transfer the stackmon for
525s	desire to I choose you or he's gonna
528s	blow it up he was like you got to hand
530s	it over you got to give up your Market
532s	it's very mad about that but I didn't
534s	want to have get it blown up so I was
537s	like I'll transfer it to you and it's
539s	yours so it got to stay up which uh
543s	that's what I really wanted it to do
545s	because a lot of people were using it
547s	uh then may 2027 Market hubs
551s	total this is just like an old graph
554s	that I had
556s	um with the transaction so I think like
559s	my Null Sec one did like 13
561s	[Music]
562s	000 transactions in May which is quite a
566s	lot
568s	uh so February July 30th yeah so I
572s	created by the July I had 30 trade
574s	characters all right here
577s	um
577s	so I started with that
580s	they're all just named Eden trade clone
582s	and just randomized after creating four
586s	or five I got very uh
589s	worn out of like go creating my
591s	characters it was just so much work it
593s	was just like hit the randomized and
595s	went
597s	so now after that uh I saw like my model
599s	was working so then I decided I want to
603s	expand again but I want to expand bigger
605s	and I want to make it bigger and better
608s	um so July I opened up the investment
611s	investment exchange it was like one
614s	billion is per share
617s	um
619s	so by August I had 305 billion shares
623s	sold uh September 544 billion
627s	and then September when I finally
630s	started getting all this set up it was
632s	about 70 billion a month in profits that
635s	I was turning
637s	uh then in September I closed the
640s	original funding I essentially brokered
643s	a deal with myself with myself to buy
645s	out the old investment
648s	I don't know how that worked but I made
650s	it fair for everybody
653s	so I bought them out and rolled
656s	everything into one because trying to
657s	run two Investments was just too too
659s	much going on and so
662s	so I condensed everything down into one
665s	um and then October I hit 90 billion in
668s	profits for the month
670s	and then December I sold 1 353 shares so
676s	that's was about
677s	1.353 trillion-esque and then I just
680s	stopped taking this because it was just
681s	too much I had too much risk and not
684s	enough characters and it was too much
686s	work to be you know posting more than
688s	fifteen thousand Market orders
691s	uh so then I expanded in December to 13
695s	Market hubs uh
697s	I think I did 619 000 Market
701s	transactions by December with uh 354
706s	million items sold uh each is so that's
708s	each piece it could be ammo and whatever
710s	included into that
713s	so
715s	continued so then January 2021 I set up
719s	in the Amara region tomorrow were cut
722s	off by Triggs so I was like that could
723s	be good if I go down there set up my own
725s	three more Market hubs
728s	um
730s	Jesus Christ
731s	we're we're going too fast again so we
734s	should slow down
736s	yes too many Market transactions
739s	so by that time when I set up I got all
742s	60 characters
744s	so I managed 60 characters 20 20
748s	accounts and it's uh it cost me like 40
752s	to 50 billion to Plex all my accounts
755s	so that's where a good chunk of
758s	my money goes
763s	so just to continue on that so by this
766s	time I was trading in 26
769s	of the regions uh in new Eden everything
772s	that's in yellow you can see that's
774s	where I set up um a lot of it was just
776s	random like all the Amar ones I just
778s	went with the locations that were just
782s	called you know corazor Prime they ended
784s	with prime I made it simple so anything
787s	that was a prime had Prime in the name
789s	that's just what I went with
792s	uh
794s	so then January I hit 90 billion in
797s	profits for the month so I'm doing
799s	really good making a lot of money
802s	moving a lot of things uh February I
805s	think 19th I hit a record of 4.8 billion
808s	in profits just for the day almost 30
811s	billion for the week
815s	so the March 17th fully at 17 trade hubs
819s	where I'm still at today
821s	uh I got out of uh great wildlands move
825s	that trade Hub to amamaki from eo2
829s	there's just nobody living out there
830s	it's a dead zone I was hardly making no
833s	money
835s	uh and then I moved
838s	that system name I can't say to Fran
840s	it's right out right side wrens which I
843s	didn't think it was going to work
844s	because we have wrens and then you have
846s	me over here but everybody's going a lot
849s	of people are buying for me the next
850s	system over from Ren so it still baffles
853s	me today
856s	uh and then I hit a 100 billion in
859s	profits for the month it was an all-time
861s	record
863s	and then I was projecting for the that
866s	may 120 billion in profits if we kept
870s	going
871s	with
873s	with that so may 2021
877s	anybody can guess what happened to me
882s	kovitz officially done
885s	and then profits dropped off by 50
887s	percent
889s	so I was doing really good
891s	and then everybody decided to go outside
893s	and not play Eve
896s	and
900s	so I went from 100 billion to 68 64
904s	billion in profits by the end of July
908s	um that has been consistent until this
911s	day 60 to 70 billion that I'm averaging
914s	per month
916s	uh and then I'm continuing to maintain
919s	the 17 Market hubs uh today
925s	so yeah 60 billion this is just the
927s	graph uh Power bi
930s	um so like I started out January 79
932s	billion February 62. March 72 and then
937s	it kind of has its ups and downs I think
939s	January was like the faction Warfare
941s	expansion so I think that's where I got
943s	close to 80 billion and then it's been
946s	kind of you can see it trickling all
948s	over from 55 to 70.
952s	so this year I'm still on track for like
955s	750 billion in profits
958s	um it's not too bad I think we're going
960s	to go a little bit over that
962s	um
963s	on track for almost 2 trillion in
965s	Revenue
967s	uh the revenue yeah I got the graph here
970s	so January like 200 billion February 150
974s	I think may we hit 102 206 million uh
978s	with Revenue this July I took this
980s	picture and I think back in July so it
982s	wasn't finished
985s	uh so we'll hit about 600 000
988s	transactions uh just that's how many
990s	times people are buying from me I think
993s	I'm going to be able to double that
995s	because I'm being a lot more competitive
997s	uh so for like the past three weeks I've
999s	been clicking on every 15 000 Market
1002s	order to make it the lowest in the
1004s	region and that's going to take me
1006s	a lot a lot a lot of time it takes me
1010s	like three hours per just one trade hub
1014s	um and then I reduce my shares from
1017s	about the 1350 to 700 uh it was four
1021s	years I was like are you I don't know
1024s	some people just aren't playing the game
1025s	I was like if you're still playing the
1027s	game message me
1028s	um if not I'm just gonna delete your
1030s	share out so
1032s	because you know people I was paying to
1034s	it's like I see they've been in like the
1036s	starter court for you know two years and
1038s	I'm just like I'm just paying a ghost at
1040s	this time so it was the free up ISC and
1043s	then get more money to the investors
1046s	that uh or that are still playing
1049s	uh and then I hired on a data guy to
1053s	essentially re-energize the market
1055s	operations so this I had some guy come
1058s	to me he was like I can do this All in
1061s	power bi and I was like sure it's you
1064s	know show me I'm probably gonna I'm
1066s	thinking he's trying to scam me for my
1068s	esque so but if he came up with a great
1070s	presentation uh foreign
1072s	and then he showed me everything that he
1074s	could do for me and then I was like fine
1076s	you'll be the first person I will let in
1079s	my closed Market corporation
1081s	uh for the past four years so I let him
1084s	in he said you know I looked over all
1086s	his data and everything he was going to
1088s	do and then he's like well I need 30
1090s	billion in the wallet to start buying
1092s	things for you because he's going to buy
1094s	and ship it with the power bi said so I
1097s	was like all right here's 30 billion if
1099s	you rip me off you rip me off so it's
1101s	only 30 billion
1103s	last night or the night before he was
1105s	like I need 40 billion and I was like
1107s	here's 40 billion more he's so far
1108s	you're doing what you're saying you're
1110s	doing
1111s	um
1112s	so my current spreadsheet set up here is
1114s	just Google Sheets
1116s	uh essentially like I can just drop it
1119s	down to like any Market Hub I want to
1121s	look at
1123s	um it tells me like when I took this
1125s	like I did like 8 billion in revenue and
1127s	then the profit for that was like 2.3
1130s	billion
1132s	um that is just based off of the 20 last
1135s	2500 transactions since you can only
1137s	pull like 2500 from from the eve
1141s	whatever ESI
1143s	uh and then like tashmir Khan like it
1146s	shows me the revenue that I did for
1148s	those 2500 transactions the profits uh
1152s	and then how many transactions so like
1154s	out of the 2500 I did sold 344 items
1157s	over there and then just all my
1160s	characters as you can see I just named
1161s	them pretty much even trade clone 11 12.
1164s	it starts at one and goes to like 40
1167s	something like that
1171s	[Music]
1172s	um and then expansion three this is my
1176s	goal is to become a mega Tycoon
1179s	um
1181s	I think I'm obsessive I don't I just
1183s	keep going with it so
1185s	um I don't need more rest this time I
1187s	already have too much isk and I don't
1189s	want any I don't want to be tied up with
1190s	investors so uh so we're doing the power
1193s	bi like I talked about uh with the other
1196s	guy that's helping me
1199s	uh
1200s	in the one thing when he came on and ran
1203s	like his power bi uh
1206s	he brought up something that was
1208s	eye-opening so I had one trillion in
1211s	Market orders listed
1213s	the order Target should have been 325
1215s	billion so that meant I had five six
1219s	seven hundred billion just sitting there
1221s	in dead-esque for Market orders
1224s	so essentially we're selling all that
1226s	down and that's freeing up a 700 billion
1229s	I can do whatever with I can keep
1231s	expanding
1232s	uh
1235s	so yeah 700 billion so then I can
1237s	reinvest that into doing more Market
1239s	things uh
1245s	so oh yeah and then you transport that
1247s	so now now I can easily expand
1250s	so my to-do list is just make more money
1253s	make more isk I mean
1256s	hopefully I can get there
1258s	uh all that together I should be able to
1261s	get back to doing like 100 billion in
1263s	profits uh per month
1266s	um like the biggest thing is just being
1267s	competitive right now I think I think
1269s	when I was posting orders I was just
1271s	like you know what they'll pay it if
1273s	they want or if they don't want to pay
1275s	it then the heck with them but now that
1278s	I'm seeing that I'm adjusting my prices
1280s	down I'm getting a lot more risk
1284s	so we still gotta wait
1287s	oh my God I really wish they would get
1289s	rid of this in the game I really do
1292s	uh this is just uh where I was at from
1296s	January to July
1298s	um just some of my market hubs so the
1300s	Orange is the profits the blue is the
1304s	revenue so like the biggest one was
1306s	Alton
1308s	um 80 billion this is in billions
1310s	uh stackmon against right around 80
1313s	billion sold for the year
1317s	um right now for some reason amamaki is
1320s	probably outpacing everything I think I
1323s	turned like 12 billion through in the
1325s	past week I have no clue what's going on
1327s	there but a lot of people are just in
1329s	that location now buying
1331s	but it changes week to week month to
1334s	month just depending on where the
1335s	players are what they're doing
1338s	so a couple Lessons Learned
1341s	don't do nalsack
1345s	there's too many politics red tapes
1347s	complaints complaints on prices like
1350s	I'll post something like I posted
1351s	something two months ago the price went
1353s	down in Jetta then I get a bunch of
1355s	angry emails from from you guys saying
1358s	well you're over charging me like a
1360s	hundred percent I was like well it
1362s	wasn't 100 over charging you two months
1365s	ago
1366s	uh
1367s	NPC stations work just as well as
1370s	citadels in fact I don't even think we
1372s	need citadels for markets with the whole
1376s	like TT thing where they started you
1378s	know blowing up I choose U stations uh
1381s	the perimeter thing I moved all of my
1384s	markets from the I chooseu stations to
1387s	just an NTC station a blank nobody had
1391s	orders there that was another gamble
1393s	hoping people would come and still buy
1395s	from me which it turned out to be very
1398s	effective because no there's no
1400s	competition I just moved in the station
1402s	the people see the items they need and
1403s	they just fly over and buy it
1406s	which I think in the future if uh if
1409s	people do start competing with me I'll
1411s	just drop all my market orders and go to
1413s	the next empty station that nobody's in
1415s	just to like reset and keep capturing
1418s	whatever sales I want
1421s	uh
1423s	uh so
1425s	learn what like the functions do in
1428s	Excel in sheet in Google Sheets instead
1431s	of copying pasting raw data like learn
1433s	ESI
1435s	um know what a vlookup is an X lookup
1439s	so it took me like two years before I
1442s	learned that and I was like wow this is
1443s	this is very helpful
1445s	I didn't know what a pivot table was for
1447s	like a year when I first started
1450s	uh and then use player creative created
1454s	services to cut down on the workload so
1457s	like when I first started I was moving
1458s	all my stuff by freighter it would you
1461s	know doing 20 jumps into freighter takes
1463s	a very long time especially after it
1465s	took you like 10 hours to buy all your
1467s	stuff and look through when I first
1469s	started I've used push X
1472s	pretty much exclusively for like three
1474s	and a half years the guy that now is
1476s	helping me that's doing the buying is
1478s	finding the cheapest cost for delivery
1484s	um and then do not list your Market
1486s	orders for two weeks
1488s	because you're just gonna have to re-all
1490s	do it over in two weeks
1493s	and then just innovate and keep
1494s	innovating is the biggest thing that I
1496s	found like you know always figure out
1499s	you know how to use Google Sheets better
1501s	Excel better
1503s	um come up with new systems to like TR
1507s	the logistics of everything
1510s	uh you know bring somebody on that knows
1513s	power bi that can take all my market
1515s	data crunch it down and then tell me how
1517s	to run my operation better let's use
1520s	innovating more for me because he's some
1522s	big data guy uh in in the uh
1525s	distribution
1527s	uh in real life so
1530s	so I did come up with like a couple
1532s	steps to become a tycoon uh find a
1535s	location to set up in high traffic uh
1537s	jumps per hour pilots in Space the more
1539s	people it's a busy road the more people
1541s	that are going by they're opening up
1542s	their Market window they're going to
1544s	want to buy something they see it at a
1546s	good price uh they'll probably stop off
1549s	and buy it Scout the location watch the
1552s	activity like sit in local see how many
1554s	people are there
1556s	see if people are coming in and out uh
1558s	and then see what they're doing like The
1560s	Kill boards look at their kill boards
1562s	like what are they flying around that
1564s	area
1566s	uh yeah figure out what's selling so
1569s	like here's a few things that are
1570s	selling that I sell that are actually
1572s	selling really good if anybody's
1574s	interested so Riggs uh you can see take
1577s	up a huge portion of what I sell that's
1579s	389 billion I think when I took this
1582s	back in July ammo everybody's buying
1585s	ammo you got to shoot people so
1588s	and then weapons go with that mining
1590s	equipment you got a lot of new players
1592s	mining in high SEC of course you know
1594s	drones
1595s	um there's a lot of different things you
1597s	can sell
1599s	Capital fuel is always good but nobody's
1601s	really using capitals too much right now
1605s	uh and then when you purchase when I
1609s	purchase my items I buy directly just
1611s	from Jedi just go to Jetta buy all look
1614s	over the price making sure I'm not
1616s	getting scammed on like that scam price
1618s	that's 300 million for a ten thousand
1620s	dollar mod ten thousand if mod
1623s	uh move your items using push X
1627s	um it just ensures your items you're
1630s	moving if you're moving like I've moved
1632s	40 billion with them I don't want to put
1634s	in my jump freighter because if I lose
1635s	40 billion I lose 40 billion push X
1637s	loses 40 billion I get my 40 billion so
1641s	there's a good insurance program they've
1643s	only lost like two contracts in four
1645s	years
1647s	uh and then post those orders mark up
1651s	I'll mark up each item at least 25
1652s	percent of what I paid for it
1655s	um mark up high-isk items less so if
1657s	it's like 200 million you don't want to
1659s	mark it up by 25 because I would make it
1661s	like 250 somebody sees that price
1663s	they're going to see the 50 million so
1666s	you gotta the higher cost items should
1670s	be a little bit lower like the T1 items
1673s	it's like 20 000 is I'll jack up to like
1676s	150 000 because it's 150 000.
1681s	um and then collect your data figure out
1683s	how to use your data see you know to see
1686s	what selling what you can do better like
1689s	what you need to carry more of what you
1691s	need to delete and stop selling because
1693s	you sell one of it a month and then just
1697s	always keep in mind people are very lazy
1699s	and if they got the money they'll just
1701s	purchase for whatever's closest to them
1704s	uh even if it's four jumps from Jetta or
1707s	two jumps from you know a mar so I sell
1710s	in two locations four jumps from Jetta
1713s	and they turn a pretty high profit
1718s	and then worst case if you post if you
1721s	list a bunch of orders
1723s	um you can always just liquidate it
1725s	bring it back to Jitter resell it you're
1726s	going to lose a little bit of this not
1728s	too much
1731s	uh so what do I do with all my esk
1735s	um I was asset poor so I did not a whole
1740s	lot with my S because I had to pay
1741s	investors and I had 20 accounts to sub
1744s	uh the investors came first
1747s	so I and I was on the hook for 1.4
1749s	trillion-esque so that's that's a lot
1752s	that I've got to pay back every time I
1755s	think about it this is just a screenshot
1757s	of my wallet so like personalisk 118
1760s	billion
1762s	um
1764s	I think I had like 200 billion in there
1765s	which is probably the most I've ever had
1767s	in a while for like at least three years
1769s	I don't think I actually took any money
1772s	for the first two years of doing this I
1775s	just paid the investors and sub my
1777s	accounts uh try new things like building
1780s	T2 dreads
1782s	um
1783s	I made an
1785s	industry operation I can produce 252 T2
1791s	Cruisers in five days I mean I got 60
1794s	characters I can run 600 industry
1799s	reactions and about 600 in uh ship
1803s	whatever building
1805s	things
1807s	um I got really tired of that after like
1809s	two months of starting 600 reactions
1812s	every
1815s	every Saturday I think I was running 60
1818s	billion through Alma Maki their industry
1820s	thing every week
1823s	I gave that up very quickly I did join
1827s	snuff out for a bit for about a year and
1829s	a half during this they are very
1832s	expensive to play play with and I almost
1834s	couldn't keep up with how much isk for
1836s	the fits and chips they wanted
1838s	I ended up with like three Dreadnought
1840s	alts and like two other PVP alts and it
1844s	was just
1845s	too expensive
1847s	and then I get confused by small numbers
1851s	so I think in like the billions and
1854s	trillions and then like when I'm trying
1855s	to type in like 1 million
1858s	um I just I fumble typing in 1 million
1861s	I'm usually typing in like a billion
1862s	when I start
1865s	uh and then invest in faction Warfare
1868s	I've been doing a little bit with
1870s	galente about 20 billion I'm investing
1873s	in there just to see how it goes to
1875s	create some content
1877s	and then I just keep reinvesting my into
1880s	the operations so I think out of like
1883s	this 160 billion from the holder and the
1886s	personal isk I think I have 20 billion
1888s	of that left because I just reinvested a
1890s	lot more in like new items
1892s	um and keeping the heavier selling items
1895s	in stock for everybody
1897s	and then I randomly give things away
1899s	with my isk sometimes I'm just watching
1902s	Eve Discord and see a noob you know he
1904s	lost all this stuff here's some isk
1907s	here's your ships replaced take them
1910s	uh the last thing is just my wish list
1913s	please make a mega Tycoon skill book
1916s	because we keep adding we keep adding
1918s	items to the game but we don't expand
1920s	how many Market slots if you do this I
1923s	could probably get another thousand
1925s	Market orders in every location so
1928s	that would be great
1931s	and then I would have no time to
1933s	actually do anything else in life
1936s	uh I sell all a copy and paste item name
1939s	and price from the spreadsheets into
1941s	in-game so like I can just copy
1943s	everything in my spreadsheet the price I
1945s	want to sell it for and then
1947s	essentially highlight all those items
1949s	and then paste it over there and it
1951s	would just bring up you know the sales
1953s	price and all those items because it's
1955s	very
1956s	time consuming to list you got 17 Market
1959s	locations 40 to 50 items in each of
1963s	those locations per week it takes a lot
1966s	of time to do that and I would rather
1967s	just be able to sell them all very
1968s	quickly like the buy all
1971s	uh Auto renew Market orders
1974s	um
1975s	I really hate having to go through all
1978s	the market orders falling off like I
1980s	just did before I came out here I had to
1981s	spend three hours before I got on my
1983s	flight to update like
1986s	all about three 400 Market orders that
1989s	were falling off in one location
1991s	so that was very time consuming I just
1994s	want to hit an auto renew and just pay a
1996s	bill
1997s	uh and then append the current market
1999s	orders
2002s	um if I already have something posted I
2004s	would just you could just post you could
2006s	just take that same item and just append
2009s	it to that so instead of having to
2011s	cancel it and then you know stack it and
2013s	then post that item again
2017s	uh the last thing is if you can please
2020s	get rid of this it wouldn't take me it
2022s	would take me two hours to renew some of
2024s	my market orders then rather than three
2028s	um
2028s	so I'd like to see that screen go away
2030s	that's the biggest thing if you do that
2033s	for me if any of the devs do that I
2035s	would be very happy
2041s	yes because uh because I'm
2045s	updating it it's by like one isk just to
2048s	you know so it goes back to 90 days so I
2051s	think I'm probably the only one that
2053s	sees that most of the time
2055s	no some other people okay good I'm not
2058s	the only one so I have to slip so I just
2060s	switch clients back and forth and then
2062s	when one times out I go to the next one
2065s	uh so that's my presentation
2068s	um I guess I'll take questions
2070s	thank you
2088s	thank you you mentioned mmake right now
2092s	there is something happening because you
2093s	see a lot of Market orders yep did you
2095s	notice you can predict let's say the
2098s	start of war or big operation by looking
2102s	at data collecting data from all your
2104s	Market orders and maybe predict upcoming
2106s	Wars or movement of let's say troops
2109s	that need ships and orders this kind of
2111s	things
2112s	um
2113s	I've always thought about it like uh
2116s	I don't know if I could predict that
2119s	um
2120s	it could it could in those regions but
2122s	like the one thing that I want to try to
2125s	predict is you know when somebody is
2127s	moving you know capitals around like I
2130s	you know I have cyanos posted liquid
2132s	ozone the capital fuel it's nothing that
2134s	I've really gotten into to look at
2137s	um but I think I could predict some
2139s	things like that with sales seeing who's
2142s	buying you know who just bought like all
2144s	my billions of units a capital fuel so
2146s	and then hunt them down if I if I really
2149s	wanted to
2152s	any other questions
2170s	have you ever had any uh in-game drama
2173s	someone sees what you're doing and they
2175s	get ticked off at you or vice versa you
2178s	see someone's like in one specific or
2180s	spot just a pain or a thorn and anything
2183s	spill over into a war deck or anything
2185s	like that not really
2189s	um I know there's some people that uh I
2192s	think it was during your stream the one
2194s	guy was really mad that I was working
2196s	with I choose you I'd essentially just
2199s	fill this fuel his citadels but when you
2201s	have one trillion of isk in those
2203s	citadels you want to make sure they stay
2205s	online so I was like sure I'll help you
2206s	feel those but he was just like oh you
2209s	do you're running the high SEC racket
2211s	with them I was like no I'm just I'm
2212s	just selling stuff
2214s	um nobody's really
2216s	uh had any had anything anything like
2219s	that other than calling me a scammer
2222s	sometimes so there's always those one a
2225s	couple people out there but other than
2227s	that nothing really there's sometimes
2230s	I'll get competition from somebody like
2232s	stackmon it was like a year ago was
2233s	listing I think a thousand orders in the
2236s	same 40s are so I just went in there and
2240s	said the heck with it and outbid them
2242s	every like 12 hours and adjusted a
2244s	thousand Market orders until he moved
2245s	out
2246s	and we all lost isk on that
2251s	all right like yeah great presentation
2254s	by the way uh could you expand a little
2257s	bit more on the logistics side of your
2258s	operation uh and like I'm guessing
2260s	you're only going for final products and
2262s	avoiding raw materials and all of that
2265s	and like what's the rate of of how many
2267s	Freighters you need like daily I'm
2270s	guessing uh
2273s	every time that we go like we just
2275s	purchased uh did another purchase last
2278s	night like that 40 billion so no matter
2281s	what it's definitely at least 17
2284s	17 locations so you're looking at at
2286s	least 17 Freighters uh whenever we
2289s	contract a push X when I was Contracting
2292s	to them
2293s	I would within one hour create about 20
2297s	contracts to them within the hour I
2300s	became like their biggest customer I
2302s	didn't get a discount from them but
2305s	I've spent about 200 billion just to
2308s	push X I think I can't remember the
2310s	number I've moved like 6 trillion with
2313s	them easiest way for the logistics is
2316s	just you know I use the Corp wallet so
2319s	all the disk is there it falls into the
2321s	Corp orders so we buy everything in
2324s	Jetta we contract it out and then
2327s	essentially it's just like any other
2329s	shipping company in the world they take
2332s	take my contract and move it out to my
2335s	stations with uh without me having to
2337s	actually oversee it
2339s	uh and then all my characters are just
2341s	set in the station so whenever it gets
2343s	delivered it falls into the Corp hangers
2345s	uh and then I just take that and then
2347s	just start listing the orders from there
2351s	I've I think that's as simple as we can
2353s	make the logistics for it
2357s	um the only other thing is the harder
2358s	thing is like the jump Freighters going
2361s	the low SEC you got to wait until you
2363s	have a lot more sold before you can
2365s	actually make a trip and
2367s	and I know push X sometimes will try to
2370s	keep it under the 60 000 M3 so they can
2373s	just use blockade Runners it's faster
2375s	they'll get it there a little bit faster
2376s	I think those get accepted a little bit
2378s	easier than the freighters
2384s	anybody else oh yeah
2387s	so um you said that you're switching
2390s	from like the fixed margin to the lowest
2393s	price in the region is that just gut
2395s	feeling or do you have because that's
2397s	gonna it's gonna erode your margins it
2399s	might just be a terrible move could be a
2402s	terrible move
2403s	um everything I've done is just kind of
2405s	based on what Fields like what it feels
2408s	like the gut feeling so just over the
2411s	past two weeks
2413s	um since I've been doing it like like I
2415s	think I told you like velor I went from
2417s	100 transaction actually 80 80
2420s	transactions per day I adjusted all the
2423s	market orders and then within the next
2426s	day I'm at
2428s	350 transactions when I last looked at
2431s	it
2432s	so we're selling more but it could be is
2436s	less profit as we're essentially going
2438s	with sell through sell as much as we can
2441s	to make the most if that we can to
2443s	capture those sales to see if that works
2445s	because in May July
2448s	I posted everything at 60 percent
2451s	um I went through all the market orders
2453s	did sixty percent and I still ended up
2455s	with like a forty percent uh profit
2457s	margin
2459s	so so that wasn't working
2461s	it's essentially my 40 problem I keep
2465s	making 40 of what the revenue is
2469s	um so now we're trying just doing sell
2471s	through on that
2472s	so it's another thing to try if it
2474s	doesn't work
2476s	spend another
2477s	four weeks readjusting them back up
2485s	yes
2486s	I think he has a question
2491s	all right so um but do you use an
2494s	external program like G of assets so
2497s	that you can do all your block buying in
2499s	one go or are you having to buy for each
2502s	trade location individually uh each
2506s	trade location individually
2508s	um if we bought it all together it would
2510s	dump out in the same Hangar and then you
2513s	would have to spend hours unstacking it
2515s	yeah that's why I'm asking yeah so uh
2518s	with my Google Sheets actually the guy I
2521s	can use my Google Sheets to buy but the
2523s	guy that has the power bi it actually
2525s	just splits It Up by location
2527s	and it'll just each location it'll just
2530s	tell you what to buy like what needs to
2532s	be bought and then he goes he takes that
2535s	and he just buys by location using the
2538s	power bi
2542s	cool anything else
2548s	all right anybody wants a misk
2551s	no
2552s	sorry I can't afford it
2556s	has the uh
2558s	has the uh Eve online Excel add-in
2561s	factored into anything at all if you'd
2563s	looked at that is it anything you'd try
2566s	using or have you you tried using it
2568s	already or uh I tried it when it first
2571s	came out I tried to set up a spreadsheet
2574s	like I had
2576s	um but for some reason it likes to auto
2578s	update every cell uh whenever you change
2582s	something so I got it to a point to
2584s	where essentially Excel would freeze up
2586s	for five minutes because it would pull
2588s	all the market orders and then when I
2589s	was trying to manipulate that how I have
2592s	Google Sheets set up it would start Auto
2595s	recalculating everything so I gave up on
2598s	that the only thing I do use the Excel
2600s	for is to pull
2602s	uh just my market transaction so I can
2606s	copy and paste them over and keep track
2607s	of that and then uh
2610s	that's about all I use it for for right
2612s	now if they if they were able to stop
2615s	having it auto calculate
2617s	and be able to work with the big bigger
2621s	stuff that I do then it would be easy
2622s	easy to use
2634s	you can tell a joke while I'm going over
2636s	there
2643s	I said I think in your presentation you
2645s	spend uh you buy directly from sell
2649s	orders is that just an effort thing you
2652s	know not wanting to put up buy orders
2654s	for example
2656s	um it's it's really just to make it easy
2660s	because uh if we were to set up buy
2662s	orders those would drop in you don't
2664s	know when you're going to get that but
2665s	you need the item now like you're sold
2667s	out of these hundred things like I'm
2670s	missing sales and then the other thing
2673s	is just like I said it falls in there
2675s	you'd have to unstack those items and
2677s	figure out where they're going so and
2679s	I'd like I've tried to work with other
2681s	people to buy directly from people but
2683s	it was just it's just too complex to do
2686s	that
2689s	all right I think that's all the time so
2693s	perfect thank you
2700s	all right

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