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| 4s | so welcome back to the arena guys as |
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| 5s | discussed we've got rope cappella coming |
| 7s | up here against turbo feed or glory i'm |
| 10s | the basilisk joined by miz in the arena |
| 12s | and let's get this show on the road miss |
| 14s | what if turbo feed or glory brought |
| 17s | yes i'm seeing another double a |
| 19s | the shack setup this time supported by a |
| 22s | scorpion so that's like a ton of |
| 25s | points being spent on just free |
| 27s | heavy battleship and to support them |
| 29s | there are two bond effects for links to |
| 32s | deacons from pairs to waxes for the |
| 34s | utility and the skybreaker for tackle |
| 36s | are they up against those roads who |
| 38s | brought steeled ears this is one of the |
| 41s | things that wrote are really known for |
| 42s | springies on |
| 44s | conventional things and |
| 46s | idc has really |
| 47s | strong armor tanking ships but they're |
| 50s | brought |
| 50s | with a shield set up |
| 52s | yeah and the match gets on the way but |
| 53s | you're right i am really really excited |
| 54s | to see how this rope capel um comp works |
| 57s | out with these shield eos this is |
| 58s | clearly a drone comp um with the gealers |
| 60s | and the eos and they're clearly shields |
| 62s | with the scalpel um so yeah i'm i mean |
| 64s | eos only four mids i believe so probably |
| 66s | not gonna be the sturdiest command ship |
| 68s | in the world um but in this drone comp |
| 70s | they want to keep range and sort of |
| 71s | mitigate by staying |
| 73s | as far away as possible from the leisure |
| 75s | shacks um so that tank may not be an |
| 77s | issue or lack thereof of tank um |
| 80s | we're seeing a swarm of drones going for |
| 82s | that scorpion |
| 83s | i guess drones don't care about ecm and |
| 86s | taking out that scorpion actually |
| 88s | they're going for the sky breaker like |
| 90s | just running for his life with this one |
| 95s | yeah and sky break is obviously very |
| 96s | very exceptional at killing drones |
| 98s | however they are particularly proficient |
| 100s | at killing retro and sky breakers |
| 102s | absolutely murder rep drones but tank |
| 105s | like damage drones from especially |
| 107s | health boost bonus damage drones from |
| 109s | eos and geela it has a little bit more |
| 110s | trouble with so i'm i'm a little bit |
| 112s | surprised by their such high concern and |
| 114s | such high priority on killing off that |
| 115s | sky breaker um but he does finally go |
| 117s | down maybe yeah no he goes down |
| 121s | yes this is an armor skybreaker so it's |
| 123s | normally a shield |
| 125s | it doesn't have much shank here when |
| 127s | it's armor fit and once the drone was |
| 129s | caught up it just melded and seeing a |
| 131s | bit just being applied to the shack and |
| 132s | to the punch effects as koneco |
| 135s | party effects can take a lot of damage |
| 137s | from these drones as they have a really |
| 138s | good application |
| 141s | yeah and i'm by the looks of how this |
| 142s | match is progressing already i think |
| 144s | this is going to be a really really |
| 145s | tough time for turbo feed or glory um i |
| 147s | mean these guiller drones are just free |
| 149s | to do whatever they want and of course |
| 150s | defanging gilas is basically futile |
| 153s | they've got each has got five sets of |
| 154s | drones you kill two extremely tanky gila |
| 156s | drones and another two pop out um so |
| 158s | it's basically pointless it's very |
| 159s | difficult to mitigate from them um and |
| 161s | until |
| 162s | these the shacks can manage to get on |
| 163s | top of something as their only real |
| 165s | damage until these shacks can get on top |
| 166s | of something and start killing it um |
| 168s | they're gonna have a very very tough |
| 169s | time but see the eos and gilas are going |
| 172s | to be significantly faster than the |
| 173s | shacks as well and there's not really |
| 174s | much in the way of support there's no |
| 176s | ranged webs they've only got those |
| 177s | vexils and the pontifex is really the |
| 179s | need to get on top of something but so |
| 180s | far they're staying pretty compact and |
| 182s | just |
| 183s | not really doing that yeah |
| 185s | the deacon is taking a lot of time as if |
| 187s | they lose that deacon they lose the |
| 188s | ability to sustain and looks like they |
| 190s | they decided to just stay and then they |
| 192s | kill out these uh repair drones like |
| 195s | sorry the damage drones if they can kill |
| 197s | them might stabilize but they really |
| 200s | need to kill some of the ships as well |
| 201s | and loosen that deacon that's not good |
| 204s | for sure and even even with that |
| 205s | strategy even if they can kill the |
| 207s | damage drones i mean their main damage |
| 208s | is the shacks so i mean the shacks are |
| 211s | obviously not ideal for killing drama |
| 212s | strains because you kill one and then |
| 214s | you've got to start your ramp up again |
| 215s | on the next one so the effective damage |
| 217s | um applied by the shacks are clearing |
| 218s | the dam the damage drones i mean not |
| 220s | even but i think |
| 221s | it's very very inefficient |
| 223s | a big issue is that like we discussed |
| 225s | earlier with the double the shake top |
| 227s | that they don't have much tackle they |
| 229s | can't pin these ships down and even |
| 231s | though ears are not known as a really |
| 233s | fast chip it does have a lot of low |
| 234s | slots they can use for speed |
| 237s | modules so you can just see the entire |
| 239s | real capital team just hiding around |
| 241s | from those shacks so not really |
| 244s | taking that much damage and like it |
| 247s | might even actually be a |
| 248s | local tank i'm uh years ago you haven't |
| 251s | really seen them been any threatened so |
| 253s | don't know what kind of tank they have |
| 255s | on and even though mage raven and healer |
| 257s | is taking damage |
| 259s | they're not tackled so they can just |
| 260s | burn out and then catch reps from these |
| 262s | scalpels |
| 264s | yeah i think it's it's a tough match-up |
| 265s | going into it i'm looking at the two |
| 267s | comps for turbo feed or glory but i |
| 269s | think there is also a pretty uh sort of |
| 271s | i would say a severe misunderstanding in |
| 272s | in what to do in this scenario because |
| 274s | if their game plan was to stay bunched |
| 276s | up stay compact and you know prevent it |
| 278s | and they |
| 280s | broke cappell don't want to come into |
| 281s | them or cappella are just happy to kite |
| 282s | around in the eos and slowly pick them |
| 283s | apart they don't want to come into them |
| 285s | so the onus is on turbo feed or glory to |
| 287s | make something happen in the match and |
| 289s | just staying compact and trying to kill |
| 290s | gheela drones it's not going to work |
| 292s | it'll take you more than 10 minutes to |
| 293s | kill all of them anyway um and they they |
| 295s | need to utilize the vexils and the |
| 297s | pontifex's to do something to get the |
| 299s | shacks in where they want to be into the |
| 301s | action you know shooting ramping up |
| 303s | tackle something down start killing it |
| 305s | but they they stayed compact and this |
| 306s | the shacks are providing very very |
| 307s | little and there's no other damage on |
| 309s | the team |
| 310s | yeah in terms of feet they're just |
| 311s | trouble feeding their support ships like |
| 314s | both deacons down |
| 316s | one point effects and the skybreaker so |
| 318s | that they're not really having much left |
| 320s | like the only fast chips they have is |
| 321s | the vexas and the pontifex and they're |
| 323s | just |
| 324s | they have no defense |
| 326s | now that the lodges are gone and they |
| 328s | have this swarm of drone |
| 329s | threatening them |
| 331s | yeah and of course the longer it goes |
| 333s | the harder it gets because um i mean |
| 335s | obviously 10 is greater than six but |
| 337s | um turbo feed or glory the longer this |
| 339s | match goes the more they're losing their |
| 341s | support wing and that supporting is |
| 342s | their only avenue of getting anything |
| 343s | done in this match once these point |
| 345s | effects and vexil goes down it's just |
| 346s | going to be the tula shacks and the |
| 348s | scorpion and they they haven't got |
| 350s | chance in hell of getting anywhere close |
| 352s | to the eos is all the geelers um so yeah |
| 354s | it's it's pretty disastrous for turbo |
| 356s | feed or glory um |
| 359s | what do you think about the scorpion |
| 361s | pick 19 points for an e-wall battleship |
| 364s | yeah i was about to mention that they |
| 366s | spent so many points on battleships and |
| 367s | those battleships haven't really done |
| 368s | much in this match like the shacks can't |
| 370s | really get into the shooting range and |
| 371s | the scorpion can't do much against these |
| 374s | drones like you can game the ship but |
| 376s | they can just assign it to someone else |
| 378s | and then those drones can still attack |
| 379s | like the only viable target is the |
| 381s | scalpels that you can |
| 383s | jam so they can't repair anyone but why |
| 385s | does that matter when you can't apply |
| 386s | any damage |
| 388s | so at this point they just have |
| 392s | like a |
| 393s | like having almost 70 points out of 100 |
| 396s | points |
| 397s | being dead weight |
| 399s | yeah it's it's really not good and i |
| 401s | think i would advise turbo food or glory |
| 403s | to to go back to the drawing board a |
| 404s | little bit after this match and try |
| 406s | something different because |
| 408s | i mean this |
| 409s | it's it's not the way it's not the way |
| 411s | you if you come up against something |
| 412s | that kites which does seem to be the |
| 413s | meta um so far i mean these eos |
| 416s | obviously but we've seen all day we've |
| 418s | seen all threes we've seen cerberuses |
| 419s | we've seen dealers we've seen nighthawks |
| 421s | all this sort of stuff um and if you |
| 424s | bring tula shacks and you haven't got |
| 425s | any kind of control on the field you |
| 427s | can't get on top of them and you have no |
| 428s | way to actually nail them down and start |
| 430s | applying some damage and that's really a |
| 433s | critical |
| 434s | you know a fatal error of a fatal |
| 436s | mistake of this comp is that it just |
| 438s | can't deal with this |
| 439s | yeah it really highlights the importance |
| 441s | of uh having good tackle ships so yeah |
| 443s | okay it's something we often talk about |
| 445s | on desk |
| 446s | having good tiger ships and having your |
| 447s | best pilots in these ships because |
| 450s | whenever they are vulnerable easy to |
| 452s | kill if they're not flown right but they |
| 454s | make such a huge difference even though |
| 456s | it's like a two or three points you've |
| 458s | spent on a frigate and this um vex of |
| 461s | zero gravitas is going down so at this |
| 463s | point like the only option for the turbo |
| 464s | feed or glory pilots is to either turbo |
| 467s | feed against a swarm of drones or go |
| 470s | further boundary for some |
| 472s | glory out there |
| 475s | yeah i agree i think in these kind of |
| 477s | comps we saw it as well in the tula |
| 478s | shack comp field by entropic thunder i |
| 481s | think um |
| 482s | they need some control and whether |
| 484s | that's ranged webs in the form of a loki |
| 486s | or a hyena which i mean the hyena can be |
| 487s | a little bit iffy sometimes it gets it |
| 489s | also gets eaten alive by um rapid-like |
| 491s | missiles or you need some sort of fast |
| 494s | attack you know something like a |
| 495s | vengeance for example that can burn in |
| 496s | and hold something down long enough for |
| 498s | the shack to get on top of it but |
| 499s | spending all these points on a scorpion |
| 501s | is is it's not good to be honest i'm i'm |
| 504s | quite disappointed um but yeah i mean |
| 507s | it's it's a hard comp from the outset as |
| 509s | we see this le shack mjding um |
| 512s | not gonna go out the arena i don't think |
| 514s | um he's but it's just too little too |
| 516s | late i think he's trying to reposition |
| 517s | himself towards the blob but he's gonna |
| 519s | go too far |
| 520s | and yeah it's it's not going to be |
| 522s | enough |
| 524s | yeah i'm just going to take this moment |
| 525s | to a shout out to the character lady |
| 528s | labia for the name and |
| 530s | the |
| 531s | pilot behind |
| 533s | the character there's a guy i have flown |
| 536s | with with camels a good guy and |
| 538s | really been there |
| 540s | uh he has a history with the road and |
| 542s | it's good to see that he's back with |
| 543s | road and the kicking ass so |
| 546s | awesome job uh mate and uh |
| 550s | have fun killing these checks |
| 553s | yeah i saw lady labia posting something |
| 554s | in discord the other day i don't know |
| 556s | which one it was but i think he said he |
| 557s | had 220 million skill points on that |
| 559s | character which is obviously an awful |
| 561s | lot so clearly been around a while |
| 563s | clearly an og of the scene um and yeah |
| 566s | proving his his absolute or her metal |
| 568s | here um |
| 569s | with this rather dominant performance |
| 573s | yeah i also recognize like some of the |
| 575s | other people on the road team like mate |
| 577s | raven is also |
| 578s | one who have played for the team for a |
| 580s | very long time so it's good to see these |
| 583s | teams like people with a lot of uh |
| 586s | tournament history and uh now i'm just |
| 588s | like looking at made ravens uh |
| 590s | helix called the fanboy hooters so uh |
| 594s | gentile if you're out there and |
| 595s | listening this ship is dedicated to you |
| 601s | that's great um what do you think about |
| 603s | this this combination of the eos and the |
| 606s | gealers it's not something we see very |
| 607s | often it is sort of in theory kind of a |
| 609s | mixed tank i suppose the eos |
| 610s | traditionally an armor ship and the gila |
| 612s | obviously um a shield ship but then |
| 614s | wrote choosing to bring presumably these |
| 616s | shield eos what do you make of that |
| 618s | well at first like i'm not i was not |
| 620s | really convinced but they give like |
| 622s | these |
| 623s | options that you have these really |
| 624s | strong uh |
| 626s | as strong as |
| 627s | drone ships and |
| 628s | the scalpel are really good to have but |
| 630s | they are not |
| 632s | really that vital for the survival of |
| 633s | the ears so |
| 635s | as long as ears can just kite then you |
| 637s | can have like an ancillary uh armor |
| 639s | repair and like some armor resist and uh |
| 642s | and keep them alive that way and just |
| 644s | have scalpels to top them up but yeah we |
| 645s | didn't see them by we didn't see them |
| 647s | getting threatened so we don't know |
| 648s | exactly how the fits are and the gs in |
| 651s | local as the match is over it was a |
| 653s | turbo feed |
| 655s | and a glory for the |
| 657s | federal team let's go back to the studio |