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| 7s | hello everyone |
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| 9s | hello |
| 11s | welcome i hope you guys had fun uh at |
| 13s | the living universe talk i certainly did |
| 17s | i went way over time so as everyone's |
| 19s | getting here late that's entirely my |
| 20s | fault |
| 22s | i agree i should have had more time |
| 27s | so |
| 28s | we're going to do a quick round of |
| 29s | introductions here i think this yep |
| 31s | we're good um ccp master plan |
| 35s | yo uh hi so i'm cc best master plan uh |
| 38s | senior software engineer on gameplay |
| 42s | hi i'm cc tobins i'm a software engineer |
| 46s | on the ecosystem team |
| 48s | uh you guys relatively know me at this |
| 50s | point i am ccp aurora uh a game designer |
| 53s | for the living universe |
| 56s | i am ccp delegate zero i'm a senior |
| 59s | narrative |
| 60s | designer |
| 62s | hey everyone i'm cece b fazi i'm a |
| 64s | senior game designer |
| 66s | hey everyone uh ccp paradox i'm a |
| 69s | producer in the living universe |
| 72s | hello csp hike i'm the director of |
| 74s | economy and systems for eve online |
| 77s | all right so |
| 79s | uh it's good to see you all here this |
| 80s | room is not big enough but if anyone is |
| 82s | kind of in the back there are a few open |
| 84s | seats down here if you want to come |
| 86s | trickle in make use of them all i see |
| 89s | six |
| 93s | all right so we don't have anything |
| 95s | specifically prepared i kind of rambled |
| 97s | for a good half hour earlier so we're |
| 101s | basically just going to go straight to |
| 103s | a proper round table so if you guys have |
| 106s | uh questions we would ask you to kind of |
| 108s | make i will i'll select people from the |
| 111s | audience |
| 112s | and then we'll have you come up to a mic |
| 114s | and |
| 115s | could be maybe slide that mic like over |
| 117s | here to the center thank you |
| 122s | all right i saw your hand come up first |
| 124s | sir |
| 134s | first of all uh obviously thank you for |
| 137s | uh addressing uh some of the elephants |
| 139s | in the room we've been talking about for |
| 140s | eight years now uh it all looks very |
| 142s | promising but obviously we don't have |
| 144s | specific mechanics yet |
| 147s | it looks still like the plex system is |
| 149s | going to be one of the key mechanics |
| 150s | fine |
| 151s | do you have something to address one of |
| 153s | the elephants in the room which is |
| 154s | unfitted afk chips deplexing in space |
| 159s | yes um so |
| 160s | the way that i was looking at at afk |
| 163s | boxing is kind of as a |
| 165s | systemic issue |
| 166s | at the moment you have so many faction |
| 168s | warfare systems that are |
| 171s | almost like |
| 173s | you know you can just kind of set a bot |
| 174s | to go like pick a random faction warfare |
| 176s | system deplex it go to the next one |
| 178s | deflex it |
| 180s | it'll become a lot harder for those |
| 182s | for that sort of behavior to happen if |
| 184s | we really focus things so if those rear |
| 186s | guard systems as we were calling them |
| 188s | are |
| 190s | no longer |
| 193s | very valuable we could we could remove |
| 195s | the lp entirely the specifics of this |
| 197s | are like still up to be discussed |
| 198s | if there are deep concerns about |
| 200s | removing the lp entirely then we can you |
| 203s | know take another look at this but we |
| 205s | don't want we don't want people to be in |
| 207s | the rear guard systems plexing them and |
| 210s | earning a ton of lp there may be |
| 212s | different content there |
| 213s | but |
| 215s | anyone else have anything there yeah |
| 217s | yeah i think um one thing i'll add the |
| 219s | system as it is |
| 221s | so i'm one of the people that worked on |
| 222s | the system that's in place right now |
| 224s | right that's having this problem |
| 225s | and the the |
| 227s | intent was at least to make it better |
| 229s | than it had been before with the scaling |
| 231s | uh lp payouts for uh systems that are |
| 234s | less endangered when you're deplexing |
| 237s | and also but we put in things like the |
| 238s | npcs you have to kill so that |
| 240s | the bots wouldn't be able to use |
| 242s | unfitted ships for offensive plexi um |
| 245s | the fact that you can end up with the |
| 247s | other side's bots like bringing up the |
| 250s | uh or the or plex or is bringing up the |
| 253s | um |
| 254s | contested level of these systems all |
| 257s | over the war zone uh means that there |
| 259s | isn't really too many of the systems |
| 260s | that are so uncontested you make almost |
| 262s | nothing from d-plexing um that's the |
| 264s | kind of scaling that the frontline |
| 266s | system will hopefully really help us uh |
| 268s | push |
| 269s | really extremely low paths or even no |
| 271s | payouts for deplexing the system that's |
| 273s | off of the front where a bot would be at |
| 275s | its best |
| 276s | technically you could still |
| 278s | do a similar thing with like the front |
| 280s | lines or the command operation systems |
| 282s | but the hope is that we concentrate |
| 284s | people more |
| 285s | efficiently that we can kind of address |
| 288s | that |
| 288s | if we still need to take a look at like |
| 290s | people just constantly running in unfit |
| 292s | ships |
| 293s | maybe we can start taking a look at you |
| 295s | know you need at least |
| 297s | you can only have like two empty module |
| 299s | slots or something who knows we can if |
| 300s | it really if it remains a problem it's |
| 303s | always something that we can address but |
| 304s | at the moment it's not currently on the |
| 306s | roadmap yeah like we put in the uh the |
| 309s | code for uh warp core stabs so we do |
| 311s | have some checks for uh fittings um and |
| 314s | so yeah that is the kind of thing that |
| 315s | we could |
| 316s | uh potentially tweak with more where we |
| 318s | have some kind of minimum required |
| 320s | fittings uh potentially on value or |
| 321s | potentially a number of slots yeah |
| 324s | all right uh you sir have had your hand |
| 326s | up for a little while |
| 330s | uh hey there so there was mention during |
| 333s | i think some of the presentation that |
| 335s | pirate factions might be involved there |
| 338s | uh |
| 339s | is there any chance that me and |
| 342s | my uh blood raider homies from npc delve |
| 344s | could |
| 345s | maybe roll up and |
| 347s | do something and fight for them or |
| 348s | something like that |
| 350s | the dream is to escape beyond the |
| 352s | current bounds of faction warfare space |
| 355s | so faction warfare as it is right now is |
| 357s | just kind of like this |
| 359s | this storm in a teacup or whatever that |
| 360s | phrase is that i'm probably misusing um |
| 363s | it's it's very limited in scope and it |
| 365s | doesn't make it's limited in ways that |
| 367s | don't really make sense uh it kind of |
| 369s | feels like a its own little universe off |
| 372s | to the side and it really could be |
| 373s | something that could reach in more so |
| 375s | for example the the current bounds of |
| 378s | faction warfare space might shift |
| 379s | perhaps it like there are systems that |
| 382s | become more vulnerable in high security |
| 383s | space perhaps this spreads into null |
| 386s | security space it makes a lot of sense |
| 387s | in particular to get the null sec npc |
| 390s | factions more involved and have that |
| 392s | almost become an extension of |
| 394s | faction warfare space |
| 396s | this is probably like |
| 398s | somewhat future music at the moment |
| 399s | we're probably more likely to look at |
| 401s | this in terms of |
| 403s | the four empires at the start but it's |
| 405s | just the start and we would really love |
| 407s | to get everybody else involved |
| 410s | good |
| 411s | i'd just add that that's |
| 413s | one of the ways we're approaching this |
| 415s | is that um |
| 417s | initially it's |
| 419s | whatever you want to think about as an |
| 421s | overhaul revamp expansion extension of |
| 423s | existing fractional warfare in terms of |
| 426s | the setup but |
| 428s | under the hood |
| 429s | rebuilding elements of it in a way that |
| 432s | we can change the factions that are |
| 433s | involved it doesn't need to be the same |
| 436s | war all the time |
| 438s | certain wars could come to an end and |
| 440s | different players come into conflict or |
| 443s | involve themselves on the side and |
| 446s | we've all along been saying i think |
| 448s | everybody we would love to get the |
| 450s | pirates involved but |
| 452s | of course |
| 454s | fractional warfare needs a lot of love |
| 455s | and we foundationally need to start with |
| 457s | the big four empires but we're building |
| 459s | it in such a way that |
| 461s | that's where we want to head other |
| 463s | factions involved in the end |
| 467s | i've taken a couple people from this |
| 468s | side of the room you've had your hand up |
| 470s | for a while |
| 474s | i'll try and pick somewhat randomly |
| 479s | all right so |
| 480s | you mentioned |
| 482s | the scale of faction warfare changing so |
| 484s | are you looking at |
| 486s | permanent changes triggvasian style |
| 489s | system swapping |
| 491s | and then that being a permanent change |
| 492s | that affects the the universe from there |
| 495s | it's not like faction warfare will |
| 498s | entirely come to an end like we're we're |
| 500s | looking at the end of this we want to |
| 502s | have like |
| 504s | at the end of you know the the initial |
| 506s | push into faction warfare we want to |
| 507s | have a system where |
| 508s | there's still dynamic gameplay happening |
| 511s | whether that's something like an npc ai |
| 513s | general who's like this is now our |
| 515s | target system and like objectives kind |
| 517s | of naturally occur um that are being |
| 519s | given to the players um that said if |
| 522s | there are larger scale events um would |
| 525s | you like to chime in on this more your |
| 527s | area there's an important point to make |
| 529s | here about the word permanent |
| 531s | i would say in |
| 534s | the approach really the vision part of |
| 536s | the vision is nothing is permanent |
| 538s | anymore is where we want to head towards |
| 540s | so there may be what i would call |
| 543s | semi-permanent changes |
| 544s | systems and constellations even regions |
| 547s | might fall |
| 549s | in and out of what happens to be |
| 551s | factional warfare |
| 553s | and |
| 555s | i would i want i wanted to say that |
| 558s | that some systems now |
| 560s | that are fractional warfare may not may |
| 563s | not reflect the warfare in the future |
| 565s | and some systems that you might not |
| 567s | imagine would be in fact warfare may |
| 569s | come into factional warfare i mean we're |
| 572s | thinking about |
| 573s | thinking about yeah maybe maybe we're |
| 575s | thinking about |
| 578s | we're thinking about i think it's it's |
| 580s | crossed our minds |
| 582s | uh we're thinking about |
| 584s | high sec null sec there's there's many |
| 587s | ways we can go |
| 588s | as you know not all of lowsec is an |
| 590s | infection author so yeah with |
| 592s | that's an important thing i think um |
| 595s | it's important for you guys to know |
| 597s | we're |
| 598s | kind of working towards that idea of |
| 601s | it's not just the same old war |
| 604s | constantly for whatever the hell it is |
| 606s | 12 years more |
| 608s | just backwards and forwards |
| 610s | and that's actually a really important |
| 612s | aspect of |
| 615s | you can win it |
| 617s | and then it shifts to a different kind |
| 620s | of war potentially or or maybe that war |
| 622s | comes to an end and another one flares |
| 624s | up somewhere else |
| 626s | so that's an important thing because |
| 627s | this sense of not being able to ever win |
| 629s | it is because it's just the same old |
| 631s | systems penduluming backwards and |
| 633s | forwards |
| 634s | something that we want to make sure that |
| 636s | you know as well is that we don't want |
| 637s | to leave you without content if you're |
| 639s | if you're a dedicated minmatar pilot |
| 641s | which i think there's a couple in here |
| 649s | if one more comes to an end it's not |
| 650s | like there's no faction warfare to play |
| 652s | until we start up some other event so |
| 654s | there will always be content for you to |
| 656s | participate in um |
| 660s | you sir i've been waiting to go since |
| 662s | the start |
| 668s | yeah a bit of a mean one uh |
| 670s | time scales what can we expect to see in |
| 672s | the next few weeks months years yep um |
| 676s | so the frontline system and like the the |
| 679s | first arc the first real introduction of |
| 681s | content is all slated to |
| 683s | we're hoping to get that all to you this |
| 685s | year |
| 686s | um so it's going to take us a little bit |
| 688s | of time |
| 688s | uh i wouldn't |
| 690s | there will be a couple months where |
| 691s | we'll be really busy in production um |
| 694s | but hopefully by the end of the year |
| 695s | we'll have |
| 696s | everything for you |
| 700s | all right not everything for you like |
| 701s | we're not going to have the pirate |
| 703s | factions oh yeah geez i'm taking riots |
| 706s | guys |
| 708s | um well it'll be after summer is |
| 710s | basically the |
| 712s | basically the safest thing i can say but |
| 714s | we are |
| 715s | basically what we we shot today we've |
| 717s | been in |
| 718s | we've been in a lot of discussions i i |
| 720s | think for me in production i've been |
| 722s | calculating we've we've had over i think |
| 724s | it was over 32 hours of chats all of |
| 727s | these people here have just been in |
| 729s | several meetings figuring out faction |
| 730s | wildfires so we have a lot of things |
| 732s | that extend beyond arc one which is |
| 734s | basically our starting point |
| 736s | but this year |
| 738s | sorry not no dates but |
| 740s | we'll definitely be coming to you with |
| 741s | more information |
| 743s | i don't know during summer but um |
| 746s | but i mean basically as soon as we know |
| 748s | uh some of the details |
| 751s | we're just trying to scope out like |
| 753s | we've tried to make ourselves a lot more |
| 755s | free to |
| 757s | not pre-scope things that sound really |
| 759s | exciting but sound a bit impossible we |
| 761s | want to actually really uh explore what |
| 764s | is possible with some smart solutions so |
| 766s | that we can bring really amazing stuff |
| 768s | so |
| 769s | otherwise we might have just like made |
| 771s | something too quickly which wasn't that |
| 773s | great so |
| 774s | but after summer |
| 776s | at the moment the company as you've kind |
| 778s | of noticed is moving away from quadrants |
| 780s | so we're not really working with the |
| 782s | quadrant system anymore and the |
| 783s | quadrants were almost a fairly big |
| 785s | impact on the development side because |
| 787s | they kind of like |
| 788s | boxed the |
| 790s | the scale of things and so we're hoping |
| 792s | to get you like slightly |
| 794s | larger features than the quadrants we're |
| 796s | offering which means it'll take a little |
| 797s | bit more time but we're entering |
| 799s | pre-production this week so a lot of the |
| 800s | core of what you've heard so far at fan |
| 803s | fest is slated to come in 2022 just |
| 806s | might be closer to quarter four |
| 808s | like we do have like there are bigger |
| 811s | bigger things in in play but i know |
| 814s | aurora has been very passionate about |
| 816s | looking at changes that don't need to |
| 819s | sit with a really large feature um i |
| 821s | mean basically if you're familiar with |
| 822s | talus on our sort of rapid how quickly |
| 825s | releasing certain balance changes |
| 827s | we are building up like a backlog of |
| 829s | those two to like things that don't need |
| 831s | to be this this gigantic uh sort of |
| 834s | release but just are really good to get |
| 836s | out now start to affect the landscape of |
| 838s | affection welfare before we we do the |
| 840s | big things such as front lines so |
| 842s | that's also being built up so it's not |
| 845s | we're not going to go fully dark for a |
| 846s | long period of time i think we are |
| 848s | actually going to release a few things |
| 850s | um |
| 851s | yeah there's a lot of the faction |
| 853s | warfare uh the tlc stuff that i was |
| 855s | looking at that can come and plus the |
| 858s | non-faction warfare tlc stuff |
| 860s | we have you know ideas about uh |
| 863s | structures that we can take a look at |
| 865s | and that sort of thing so there will be |
| 867s | a little bit of content but it won't be |
| 869s | like a huge amount and then all of a |
| 871s | sudden like you'll have this whole new |
| 872s | system to play with like at some point |
| 875s | uh yeah and one other thing i'll add is |
| 877s | uh over this time period between now and |
| 880s | when the like the big like |
| 883s | collection of uh arc one stuff lands at |
| 886s | towards the end of the year uh there's |
| 888s | also going to be uh continuing events |
| 890s | going on all the time and those will be |
| 893s | tied into the storyline of this arc one |
| 897s | we're treating it as essentially this |
| 898s | prelude to the stuff that's going to be |
| 900s | happening in the bigger content drop um |
| 903s | those of you who are familiar with our |
| 905s | kind of normal schedule of events will |
| 907s | know that over the summer our events |
| 909s | tend to be very low and empire focused |
| 912s | and we're going to be taking advantage |
| 913s | of that to make sure we're kind of |
| 915s | seeding |
| 916s | interesting story lines and |
| 918s | getting things rolling towards the |
| 920s | things that will reach a flash point |
| 922s | towards the end of the year |
| 924s | i took one from the side of the room uh |
| 926s | let's go with our csm member over here |
| 928s | rca |
| 929s | faction warfare csms this is a very |
| 931s | fitting fitting panel |
| 937s | all right first of all thank you for |
| 939s | announcing my entire platform in the |
| 940s | keynote |
| 942s | second of all um you've been the most |
| 944s | effective csm |
| 946s | half a term |
| 948s | all right anyway |
| 952s | anyway uh right now as faction warfare |
| 954s | stands the two of each of the empires |
| 957s | are allied with one another galente with |
| 959s | minamitar and amar with khaldari um for |
| 962s | these future evolving wars are those |
| 965s | going to allegiance is always going to |
| 967s | be in place or are they going to maybe |
| 970s | not be in place if like we have kaleli 2 |
| 973s | electric boogaloo and the minmatargo |
| 975s | shoot the galente or something i will |
| 978s | leave this one too |
| 979s | uh cc delegate zero all right |
| 987s | right |
| 988s | killing two electric boogaloo coming |
| 994s | you gotta tell me to go away again dc um |
| 997s | i don't rule anything out |
| 1006s | all right uh corvus you've had your hand |
| 1008s | up for a while |
| 1014s | just a question about |
| 1016s | citadels especially neutral citadels in |
| 1019s | war zones is there any plans to deal |
| 1020s | with those and is there any possibility |
| 1022s | of faction warfare specific structures |
| 1025s | uh faction warfare specific structures |
| 1027s | is a sweet idea and i would love to talk |
| 1030s | about that more at some point we don't |
| 1031s | have anything specifically slated for |
| 1033s | faction warfare specific structures but |
| 1035s | anything's possible |
| 1038s | in terms of neutral structures um this |
| 1040s | is a conversation that i would actually |
| 1042s | love to have with you guys because it's |
| 1043s | a really important one in the factory |
| 1046s | ecosystem |
| 1047s | um right now like players can go and |
| 1049s | dock in |
| 1050s | enemy militia stations because they have |
| 1053s | docking rights |
| 1054s | um |
| 1056s | how we approach this is a little bit |
| 1058s | questionable the the problem is that |
| 1060s | there's an overlap of people using that |
| 1062s | space obviously like there's a lot of |
| 1063s | people who live in that space and don't |
| 1065s | care about faction warfare |
| 1067s | and maybe they just put up these free |
| 1068s | ports because like they make a little |
| 1070s | tax money and they they don't mind it |
| 1072s | makes it less likely for people to shoot |
| 1073s | them because they can use them |
| 1075s | that sort of thing and so |
| 1078s | we don't |
| 1079s | i want to be cautious about totally |
| 1081s | crushing that |
| 1082s | um there's a lot of people that live |
| 1084s | there that would be upset if we if we |
| 1086s | just kicked them out |
| 1088s | so |
| 1090s | yeah |
| 1091s | so |
| 1092s | i don't think we're just going to kick |
| 1093s | you out but |
| 1095s | it's possible like |
| 1096s | for example |
| 1098s | and |
| 1098s | this is this is purely just tossing |
| 1101s | something out there the militia of that |
| 1103s | system that controls it |
| 1104s | like they basically like storm your |
| 1106s | station and they're like you can't let |
| 1108s | these people dock |
| 1110s | so we could just like apply an acl over |
| 1113s | top of |
| 1114s | these stations which if you're in if |
| 1116s | you're in an enemy militia and |
| 1118s | they control the system like you just |
| 1120s | don't get docking in tether |
| 1122s | and that's kind of the sort of solution |
| 1123s | that we're looking at |
| 1125s | um if there are major concerns |
| 1128s | all right |
| 1129s | if there are like if if you guys have |
| 1132s | specific like ecosystem concerns with |
| 1134s | exactly the impacts of that i'm super |
| 1136s | happy to talk with you about that |
| 1138s | a lot of hands went up at this oh boy |
| 1142s | oh yeah |
| 1146s | yes cool yeah um this is also where the |
| 1149s | allegiance mechanics will start to |
| 1151s | become important um |
| 1154s | right now with the kind of binary |
| 1156s | or trinary i guess you're either a |
| 1158s | defending faction you're an attacking |
| 1160s | faction or you're neutral and then the |
| 1162s | structure might be owned by a defending |
| 1164s | corp or an |
| 1165s | attacking corp or neutral corp so you've |
| 1167s | got like so many different combinations |
| 1168s | of things |
| 1169s | um so the legion system is is |
| 1172s | potentially one route to saying |
| 1175s | we're gonna |
| 1176s | pledge this structure to it's allegiance |
| 1179s | five of cup |
| 1180s | um |
| 1181s | we've |
| 1183s | talked about |
| 1185s | uh |
| 1186s | yeah we have talked about like faction |
| 1189s | cause maybe that's the way to do this we |
| 1192s | might do it in other mechanics we don't |
| 1193s | know but that's the sort of thing we're |
| 1195s | thinking so maybe |
| 1197s | you you put a specific core in and then |
| 1199s | that's kind of locked in that structure |
| 1201s | um as a way of kind of solving the oh |
| 1203s | this week we're going to flip the red |
| 1204s | side next we're week gonna flip to blue |
| 1206s | side you know solve that kind of solve |
| 1207s | it that way |
| 1212s | ah and go with you yes |
| 1220s | um the gentleman kind of performing ants |
| 1223s | kind of asked my question but i just |
| 1224s | wanted to reiterate i'm i did a story |
| 1228s | for talking stations |
| 1230s | about why kind of |
| 1231s | faction warfare was not really viable |
| 1233s | anymore and i can talk to like a number |
| 1235s | of the old veterans and they're one of |
| 1237s | their consistent uh the same thing they |
| 1240s | said over and over again was how |
| 1241s | citadels ruined |
| 1243s | the importance of having a beachhead and |
| 1246s | because they they would just like |
| 1247s | leapfrog these citadels around and was |
| 1249s | very unimportant so uh i would highly |
| 1252s | recommend humbly recommend uh taking a |
| 1255s | look at that because that was pretty |
| 1256s | important in the research that i did |
| 1259s | yes i i don't want to go through the |
| 1261s | year and not have this addressed |
| 1263s | within 2022 it might require an early |
| 1266s | draft of the allegiance system we're |
| 1268s | entering like the pre-production phase |
| 1270s | next week hopefully |
| 1272s | and so we'll be we'll be kind of digging |
| 1274s | into the specifics a little bit more but |
| 1277s | you know what's especially useful for us |
| 1279s | for us at this this roundtable is |
| 1281s | getting a really good idea of like |
| 1283s | exactly what where do the problems lie |
| 1286s | um where could |
| 1288s | it with solutions that you're thinking |
| 1290s | of like what what pitfalls can we avoid |
| 1292s | like we don't want to put something in |
| 1293s | place it's like oh we didn't there's |
| 1295s | this whole like extra little niche issue |
| 1297s | which just really happens a lot in eve |
| 1300s | so something to just watch out for but |
| 1302s | yes we absolutely want to address |
| 1304s | structures |
| 1307s | yes sir |
| 1309s | hi i have a question and i think the the |
| 1311s | bee on my back might give it away |
| 1313s | but how are you going to solve the |
| 1315s | problem of what if we decide to pour 35 |
| 1318s | 000 characters into faction warfare and |
| 1320s | how is that going to be |
| 1321s | good for the gameplay rather than |
| 1323s | disastrous |
| 1324s | yeah it's it's a perfectly good question |
| 1326s | in some ways i think that the |
| 1330s | the mechanics of faction warfare space |
| 1332s | itself are limiting so there's almost |
| 1334s | like a limit of the number of people |
| 1336s | that you can really effectively run a |
| 1339s | system with if you pour in 35 000 people |
| 1342s | and they just like crush one side of the |
| 1344s | war zone hey like i'm super happy to see |
| 1345s | a whole bunch of people in in the war |
| 1347s | zone but at the same time you're going |
| 1348s | to get like no lp |
| 1350s | because there's not enough |
| 1352s | systems for you so i think that's kind |
| 1353s | of a major reason that we don't see the |
| 1355s | null sec alliances kind of pour in |
| 1357s | already |
| 1358s | besides the whole having to leave your |
| 1360s | alliance thing um but it's there's just |
| 1363s | kind of natural limitations in place uh |
| 1366s | that if it becomes a problem where like |
| 1368s | all of a sudden we see a ton of people |
| 1370s | joining uh |
| 1371s | then we can kind of look at that but you |
| 1373s | guys have any other thoughts on this |
| 1376s | i mean i think that the very basic |
| 1378s | version of it is the more the merrier um |
| 1380s | like |
| 1381s | if a lot of |
| 1382s | there's there's people |
| 1384s | big groups of people can join uh not |
| 1386s | come they don't have to be coming from |
| 1387s | nelsec right like if people want to get |
| 1389s | involved in the feature then that's |
| 1391s | great and this isn't this is a feature |
| 1393s | that we always need to make sure it's |
| 1394s | designed to be flexible because we don't |
| 1397s | enforce even sides and that's true even |
| 1400s | if we didn't have any |
| 1402s | other areas of the game that could have |
| 1404s | people pop in and join |
| 1406s | so if the if the system is set up in a |
| 1408s | way that makes the |
| 1410s | gameplay fun even if these numbers of |
| 1412s | people on either side is lopsided then |
| 1415s | that'll also stand true uh even if a |
| 1418s | whole bunch of games come in |
| 1421s | i mean i'm just going to sorry i like to |
| 1424s | say |
| 1425s | i agree with |
| 1427s | what fosi just said there very much but |
| 1429s | also i think there might be an element |
| 1431s | of turnabout is fair play in the other |
| 1433s | direction |
| 1434s | because um |
| 1436s | the vision this idea of the spillover |
| 1438s | and spill out into infection of |
| 1440s | warframes or other areas is important to |
| 1442s | bear in mind and |
| 1447s | certainly not initially but we're |
| 1450s | on a road to in the end some of these |
| 1454s | factional loyalists may be able to |
| 1456s | affect |
| 1457s | the zero zero territorial warfare game |
| 1461s | so there's there's |
| 1463s | there would be um a symmetry potentially |
| 1466s | at the moment like the pouring in |
| 1469s | your alliance or your coalition that |
| 1471s | would be kind of an asymmetrical thing |
| 1474s | but |
| 1474s | in the end if it's fair for |
| 1477s | the fractional warfare to spill over |
| 1479s | then that kind of answers why it's fair |
| 1480s | for zero zero to spill back in |
| 1486s | torvald |
| 1488s | our former csm who also talked about |
| 1491s | faction warfare |
| 1492s | i just wanted to ask about corp and |
| 1494s | alliance income for faction warfare |
| 1496s | seeing if that was something y'all are |
| 1497s | going to address sooner because right |
| 1499s | now it's really hard for corpse and |
| 1500s | alliances to really have any kind of |
| 1502s | living in you know low sec unless they |
| 1504s | have like null sec or |
| 1505s | some of the moons but |
| 1508s | not yet |
| 1509s | thinking about it uh well |
| 1512s | not in the context of fw for now but uh |
| 1515s | if you pay the attention to ratati's |
| 1517s | presentation |
| 1518s | uh there's something there |
| 1520s | but for uh |
| 1522s | you know as far as fw and |
| 1526s | the main gameplay of ffw we're |
| 1528s | we have ideas but they're not really |
| 1530s | coming soon |
| 1532s | that is it's not a priority but |
| 1534s | as uh |
| 1535s | nick said earlier |
| 1538s | we |
| 1539s | we try to go towards this |
| 1541s | leveling of fields between |
| 1543s | like gameplays and kind of normalize |
| 1546s | what is happening so a new player |
| 1548s | doesn't have to learn three different |
| 1550s | ways of how to conquer a system |
| 1553s | and i i believe you can see where that |
| 1555s | that goes but uh yeah |
| 1559s | i just want to say we're also exploring |
| 1561s | the the |
| 1563s | the difference of uh like personal sort |
| 1565s | of rewards and progression as well as |
| 1567s | communal or societal kind of rewards and |
| 1569s | progression |
| 1570s | which |
| 1571s | is al also includes like corporation |
| 1573s | alliance they're part of communities |
| 1575s | involved in that too |
| 1579s | and |
| 1580s | it was uh mentioned in ritali's |
| 1582s | presentation as well but uh taxing |
| 1585s | additional things through like a vat tax |
| 1587s | and an lp tax is a good way to help |
| 1589s | those low set corporations that don't |
| 1591s | really have an income stream to generate |
| 1593s | one |
| 1596s | fantomite |
| 1597s | there's a lot of names i recognized here |
| 1599s | today |
| 1602s | our other csm i think we've worked our |
| 1604s | way through the csm initiative |
| 1607s | right now there's a huge problem in that |
| 1609s | loads of us who want to fight each other |
| 1611s | particularly in fleets of all sizes we |
| 1614s | hang around sitting docks waiting for |
| 1616s | somebody else to undock first |
| 1618s | to go and fight them are there going to |
| 1620s | be any opportunities in faction warfare |
| 1622s | because like in parchment there's |
| 1624s | valuable pve that gets fleets there |
| 1626s | already |
| 1627s | are there going to be any extra |
| 1628s | opportunities in faction warfare for |
| 1630s | fleet pve that requires that they'd be |
| 1632s | ready for pvp |
| 1634s | yes |
| 1634s | uh we're so i had mentioned in the |
| 1636s | presentation like the the term i had |
| 1638s | thrown out was like battlefield sites um |
| 1641s | i don't have a specific design for you |
| 1643s | yet but the hope is to like generate a |
| 1646s | pve experience that is a little bit more |
| 1648s | like |
| 1650s | whether or not there's another player |
| 1651s | there it feels like you're kind of in a |
| 1652s | fleet fight |
| 1654s | and you can help to kind of push the |
| 1656s | fashion warfare |
| 1657s | thing that way |
| 1659s | we |
| 1659s | have to play with it a lot because in in |
| 1662s | faction warfare for the same reason that |
| 1663s | the current rats do almost no damage |
| 1667s | we don't want |
| 1669s | to completely kind of crush out the pve |
| 1672s | ecosystem in the middle of that so it's |
| 1673s | kind of it's it's an interesting balance |
| 1675s | that we have to play with uh |
| 1677s | but we'll we'll get there we do want to |
| 1680s | add additional content particularly to |
| 1682s | those frontline systems |
| 1686s | you sir |
| 1693s | currently one of the biggest |
| 1695s | issues with system contestant is |
| 1697s | downtime plexi so as soon as server |
| 1699s | comes up there could be up to ten plexes |
| 1702s | in the system and if you've got system |
| 1704s | control at that point you could take |
| 1705s | seven ten in one go |
| 1708s | can you slow that spawn down to normal |
| 1710s | rate so |
| 1711s | you don't automatically get that massive |
| 1712s | spawning |
| 1716s | um |
| 1717s | yeah we've done some similar things in |
| 1720s | other places in the past where we we |
| 1722s | kind of stagger things for say the first |
| 1724s | 30 minutes um and a very old example was |
| 1728s | uh office response like the first |
| 1730s | 30 minutes after every startup you would |
| 1733s | scan for all the belts i'll there's all |
| 1734s | the offices and you kind of got a quick |
| 1736s | and easy reset so we can do similar |
| 1737s | things like that |
| 1739s | but something that was also touched on |
| 1741s | in the presentation was kind of |
| 1743s | changing the throttles on how quickly |
| 1746s | you can get lp or you can get |
| 1748s | like progress moving either way so |
| 1751s | that's another way we could solve that |
| 1752s | yeah |
| 1755s | there's a particularly large tempo |
| 1757s | challenge in faction warfare um as i've |
| 1760s | particularly heard several times from |
| 1762s | talking to you guys with uh kind of the |
| 1764s | the tension between u.s and eu where eu |
| 1767s | will kind of raise one thing and then |
| 1769s | the stronger u.s faction shifts it the |
| 1771s | other way uh it's not necessarily a |
| 1773s | terrible thing because in some ways |
| 1775s | you're indirectly interacting with each |
| 1777s | other you know we |
| 1779s | that's that's okay in some ways but at |
| 1782s | the same time like i can understand it |
| 1784s | it can be a little bit frustrating to |
| 1786s | like log in and like ah all our hard |
| 1788s | work was done while we're not online um |
| 1790s | that said like we're probably not gonna |
| 1792s | hit you with like |
| 1794s | these systems are only active in this |
| 1796s | time zone sort of thing i think that |
| 1798s | would be a little bit too harsh |
| 1800s | do you have anything you guys want to |
| 1807s | yes if you'd like download come up |
| 1813s | i'll try to get some more people from |
| 1814s | the back um in terms of allegiance right |
| 1817s | uh currently we can sort of look at |
| 1819s | employment history when recruiting and |
| 1821s | stuff to at least try and figure out |
| 1823s | there's a spy |
| 1825s | so |
| 1826s | is there going to be any sort of more or |
| 1828s | less reliable way for us to do a decent |
| 1830s | betting process with the allegiance |
| 1832s | thing so someone doesn't just hop sides |
| 1834s | all the time and especially with the |
| 1836s | bots jumping sides constantly |
| 1838s | uh |
| 1839s | with the allegiance thing i don't know |
| 1841s | how much it'll give you we |
| 1844s | do you have thoughts on this |
| 1852s | uh i mean we've talked a lot about |
| 1854s | allegiance system and i think it's |
| 1857s | the |
| 1858s | the interest there is is to expose um |
| 1862s | a lot of interesting things there like |
| 1864s | on the characters it ties a lot into |
| 1866s | character identity uh for allegiance |
| 1868s | it's like uh it might be whether you are |
| 1871s | and |
| 1872s | you have an allegiance to a particular |
| 1873s | faction you might want to declare an |
| 1875s | allegiance to an agent in the future you |
| 1877s | might say this is my best friend |
| 1879s | it could be a particular region of space |
| 1881s | but allegiance could expand more beyond |
| 1884s | than just the four sort of empire or |
| 1887s | militias we see it as progressing a bit |
| 1889s | more |
| 1890s | and that could add flavor to your |
| 1892s | particular character you might unlock |
| 1894s | you might unlock uniforms for example if |
| 1897s | you declare allegiance to mar or things |
| 1899s | like that so |
| 1900s | in terms of |
| 1901s | finding out more information from a |
| 1903s | particular person on what allegiances |
| 1906s | there are we will set uh most likely |
| 1909s | some type of criteria um and maybe some |
| 1912s | type of decay or |
| 1914s | fail conditions if you declare |
| 1916s | allegiance to mr but you kill a bunch of |
| 1917s | them that may set you as never being |
| 1920s | able to |
| 1921s | lie to them ever again or you might have |
| 1923s | to really redeem yourself in their eyes |
| 1926s | but there's going to be some kind of |
| 1929s | barriers or gates that we might choose |
| 1931s | some things we might not for particular |
| 1932s | types of allegiances but |
| 1934s | i think overall we the way we've talked |
| 1936s | about it internally is very |
| 1938s | a very flexible system because our |
| 1940s | current systems like standings is one of |
| 1943s | the biggest one is a bit inflexible to |
| 1946s | give us the kind of um |
| 1948s | future-proof uh sort of decision-making |
| 1950s | or or checks that we want to do for for |
| 1953s | people and characters or corporations so |
| 1956s | i think allegiance you'll see |
| 1958s | from the beginning you'll you'll see |
| 1959s | very factual warfare flavored as as we |
| 1961s | make our first steps there but overall |
| 1964s | in the future i think you'll see it |
| 1966s | evolve into |
| 1967s | a really sort of identity kind of system |
| 1970s | where we get to set a lot of this |
| 1976s | i mean to the |
| 1978s | i guess the |
| 1980s | vetting issue |
| 1982s | so some of you will remember when you |
| 1985s | could see other people's standings |
| 1988s | um |
| 1989s | now |
| 1991s | the real |
| 1992s | i if my memory serves me correctly the |
| 1994s | reason that had to go away was |
| 1996s | essentially a resource management issue |
| 1998s | because the server was constantly kind |
| 2000s | of checking and standings are not quite |
| 2002s | real time but they're close enough to |
| 2004s | real time that they're updating so |
| 2005s | frequently when you have a lot of |
| 2007s | characters it's similar with some other |
| 2008s | things that cause lag |
| 2010s | when you're constantly checking like |
| 2012s | thousands of characters |
| 2014s | in the system |
| 2016s | but with the allegiance system because |
| 2017s | it would be |
| 2019s | um |
| 2020s | a more |
| 2023s | granular sort of |
| 2026s | not permanent but semi-permanent choice |
| 2029s | that would stay around it would not |
| 2031s | change in real time |
| 2033s | it would mean we could actually |
| 2035s | contemplate having an allegiance history |
| 2038s | and that would be an aid to vetting um |
| 2040s | so that answers that thing i mean one of |
| 2043s | the ways i think about this issue of |
| 2047s | diplomacy with npcs we've had the |
| 2049s | standing system |
| 2050s | and we've kind of been getting along |
| 2052s | with one wing of an npc diplomacy system |
| 2055s | for nearly 20 years the standing system |
| 2058s | is a reputation system |
| 2060s | so we've had the reputation system but |
| 2062s | we haven't had the |
| 2064s | declare who you want to belong to part |
| 2066s | of it the allegiance half of it |
| 2069s | and it sounds kind of crazy that we |
| 2071s | haven't had this really except in |
| 2073s | factional warfare has a rudimentary |
| 2076s | to to be quite honest a rudimentary |
| 2078s | version of this through the militia |
| 2079s | system |
| 2080s | but what we want to do is we want to |
| 2083s | build a proper system for declaring |
| 2085s | allegiances |
| 2087s | we're going to use fractional warfare as |
| 2089s | the lever to get that it'll be it will |
| 2092s | have it'll be a starting |
| 2094s | point for the allegiance system but |
| 2096s | we're thinking about it in a way that |
| 2098s | this can be used |
| 2099s | throughout the game ultimately um and i |
| 2102s | think it will be it will provide a big |
| 2107s | a large number of opportunities for many |
| 2109s | other aspects of the game outside |
| 2110s | faction warfare so that's kind of give |
| 2113s | you a little bit of an insight into how |
| 2128s | so just on the allegiance point |
| 2131s | um at the moment |
| 2133s | faqua is binary so you would need to |
| 2135s | declare for one side or another and that |
| 2138s | keeps certain groups like my own out of |
| 2140s | the uh the gameplay |
| 2142s | it is possible to declare against a |
| 2144s | faction without necessarily declaring |
| 2146s | for their opponents |
| 2148s | is that something that is possible |
| 2150s | because it would uh increase conflict |
| 2152s | with one side without necessarily |
| 2154s | playing for the other team |
| 2158s | we we've been talking about this we were |
| 2160s | just talking about this the other week |
| 2161s | like it suddenly occurred to a couple of |
| 2163s | us but we could have a negative |
| 2165s | allegiance i.e declare against someone |
| 2167s | without having to |
| 2169s | so the the example would be i want to |
| 2171s | fight the galente |
| 2172s | but i don't want to declare allegiance |
| 2174s | to the caldari well can we have a |
| 2176s | version of it |
| 2178s | i'm not promising this would be in like |
| 2180s | version one but can we work towards a |
| 2181s | version of it where you could say i'm |
| 2184s | just going to declare that i i am an |
| 2187s | enemy a rival of the um galente rather |
| 2191s | than having to declare that i'm a friend |
| 2194s | of the caldari and |
| 2196s | i don't see why not if we build this |
| 2198s | system in the flexible way that we're |
| 2200s | thinking about it |
| 2202s | uh |
| 2203s | 10. |
| 2211s | so right now one of the the factors in |
| 2214s | participating in faction warfare that |
| 2216s | comes up a lot |
| 2217s | or in low-sec pvp in general is your |
| 2220s | security status |
| 2222s | which is if you know when you are in a |
| 2224s | militia it sort of gives you certain |
| 2227s | permissions but only against certain |
| 2229s | groups |
| 2230s | and i guess so i'm sort of wondering how |
| 2232s | you envision that working with these |
| 2234s | allegiances either |
| 2235s | declaring for or declaring against this |
| 2238s | is going to be the same kind of |
| 2239s | relationship where if i'm like i'm on |
| 2241s | this side fighting these guys |
| 2243s | that doesn't necessarily affect my |
| 2245s | security status but if i fight anyone |
| 2246s | else |
| 2247s | or you know if i declare allegiance to |
| 2249s | the goristas am i going to be welcome in |
| 2251s | highsec |
| 2253s | no is has that relationship been |
| 2256s | explored at all or |
| 2258s | i'd say it's still under construction |
| 2259s | like conversation uh the specifics of |
| 2262s | this we don't have for you today |
| 2264s | um nick would you like to elaborate this |
| 2266s | is very much the the clear thing |
| 2272s | some building something like an alleged |
| 2273s | system is has a lot of complexities |
| 2276s | because |
| 2277s | it's a very it's a very social system |
| 2281s | um |
| 2282s | and and as soon as you get into a highly |
| 2286s | social system in a game like eve |
| 2288s | um there are all sorts of little things |
| 2290s | you need to think about and it's like |
| 2292s | okay well that would be a pain point for |
| 2294s | them come do we really want to |
| 2297s | um |
| 2299s | construct a trap for players and then if |
| 2302s | if there is this uh thing that they can |
| 2305s | get into |
| 2306s | can we build a path out of that for them |
| 2308s | because there's things in the standings |
| 2311s | around the current system you're aware i |
| 2313s | think a lot there's many hit traps and |
| 2315s | pitfalls at the standing system and it's |
| 2317s | really really hard to dig your way out |
| 2319s | of that |
| 2320s | that is very much on our minds like |
| 2323s | let's not build another system that's |
| 2324s | full of traps |
| 2326s | yeah we oh sorry |
| 2329s | we don't want you to participate in |
| 2330s | faction warfare or |
| 2333s | i hate the situation where people want |
| 2335s | to do a thing but they won't because |
| 2337s | like it would take forever to earn back |
| 2340s | the kaldari standing and i need to get |
| 2341s | together |
| 2343s | it's very much the the sort of thing |
| 2344s | that's on our mind um there needs to be |
| 2347s | some |
| 2348s | like it's for the universe to feel |
| 2350s | appropriately reactive there needs to be |
| 2352s | something there |
| 2354s | there needs to be some sort of |
| 2356s | response from the universe to the things |
| 2358s | that you do in it |
| 2360s | but at the same time it's a game and we |
| 2362s | don't want it to be completely |
| 2364s | suffocating so it's something very much |
| 2367s | on our minds at the moment |
| 2369s | yeah um dealing with security status |
| 2372s | issues seems to be like my perennial |
| 2374s | curse that i'm never going to get away |
| 2375s | from |
| 2376s | um |
| 2377s | if anyone remembers like very old prime |
| 2379s | watch talks at fan fest |
| 2381s | if you remember way way back |
| 2383s | uh security status used to be just a |
| 2385s | standing to concord the same way as you |
| 2387s | have standing still liver factions |
| 2389s | um |
| 2390s | and one of the things we did was pull |
| 2393s | pull it out of standing system into a |
| 2396s | dedicated uh attribute by itself and |
| 2399s | then we can start to build clearer rules |
| 2400s | on |
| 2402s | uh how your sex status goes up and down |
| 2404s | and tags and all those kind of things |
| 2406s | um and i feel like the allegiance is |
| 2408s | kind of like the next |
| 2410s | evolution almost of that um so we can |
| 2412s | start to build rules on |
| 2414s | what it means to be allied with these or |
| 2417s | maybe allied against these um in terms |
| 2419s | of |
| 2420s | who can shoot who when and all those |
| 2422s | things um |
| 2425s | so |
| 2426s | um |
| 2427s | yes i i think like we were going to |
| 2429s | build a lot of stuff on that and yeah |
| 2431s | it's going to go |
| 2433s | how many of you guys remember having to |
| 2435s | avoid the sink |
| 2436s | how many of you are old enough to |
| 2437s | remember having to avoid the sanctum |
| 2439s | constellation because you were below you |
| 2441s | had low security status which was low |
| 2442s | concord stand-ins and the normal faction |
| 2444s | police were fine you could slip by them |
| 2446s | but you go into sanctum and concord will |
| 2448s | just wreck you |
| 2449s | yes |
| 2450s | yeah yeah |
| 2453s | uh |
| 2454s | you sir your arms are going to be real |
| 2455s | exercised after today |
| 2461s | i'll ask this one because no one's |
| 2462s | really brought it up yet um |
| 2465s | what have you looked at for system level |
| 2468s | so like right now you can dump lp into |
| 2470s | ihubs to upgrade levels this gives you |
| 2472s | bonuses for |
| 2473s | industrial parts |
| 2475s | um currently those bonuses affect all |
| 2477s | structures including |
| 2479s | pirates and people not aligned with the |
| 2481s | faction which is a really weird mechanic |
| 2485s | so i wonder can you repeat the question |
| 2487s | please |
| 2488s | so |
| 2490s | system upgrade levels |
| 2492s | yeah the question was what are we |
| 2494s | thinking about to do with that yeah what |
| 2496s | are we thinking about expanding it yeah |
| 2498s | we're thinking about maybe removing |
| 2500s | subparts |
| 2501s | um |
| 2502s | basically just because no one's really |
| 2504s | talked about that yet i was just curious |
| 2506s | yes we haven't |
| 2507s | but |
| 2510s | we have talked about it internally yes |
| 2512s | and uh talking about ihubs uh i gave an |
| 2515s | answer earlier and these guys thoughts |
| 2517s | on it about how we're looking at |
| 2519s | normalizing uh some of the systems that |
| 2521s | exist in the game you know you have i |
| 2523s | have not |
| 2524s | do stuff we have talked about that a lot |
| 2526s | of updating that system |
| 2528s | so |
| 2529s | nothing is hap it's coming |
| 2532s | but we are |
| 2533s | thinking about making changes on uh what |
| 2537s | that could end up being |
| 2539s | that resembles a better |
| 2543s | and normalized taste between you know |
| 2544s | low sec fw and player sovereignty and |
| 2548s | what those upgrades could do because |
| 2550s | right now they're very |
| 2552s | linear |
| 2553s | and how we can maybe go into a system |
| 2556s | that you have options and you can't |
| 2558s | always have |
| 2560s | all of the upgrades all the time |
| 2562s | and how we can give you more options |
| 2564s | from the ones that you have right now |
| 2565s | and this ties into how we are uh |
| 2569s | you know thinking about diversifying the |
| 2571s | solar system so that not all every solar |
| 2573s | system is the same or not every other |
| 2574s | system has the same capacity for example |
| 2578s | for resources |
| 2580s | or |
| 2580s | for uh |
| 2582s | combat sites |
| 2583s | uh that's the space that we're thinking |
| 2586s | it's uh it's not a priority right now |
| 2588s | but we have talked about it a lot uh |
| 2591s | because of player sovereignty |
| 2593s | and now we're gonna probably start |
| 2595s | thinking about |
| 2596s | fw i hubs how we can upgrade those and |
| 2598s | how what that would mean into the |
| 2600s | general ecosystem |
| 2602s | thank you i think most likely we will |
| 2604s | see the the new system hit with kind of |
| 2607s | the the current ihub setup um still kind |
| 2610s | of working alongside that but it won't |
| 2612s | be a thing it's still a thing very much |
| 2614s | on our radar so |
| 2626s | this is just something we're thinking |
| 2627s | about as so i think it's interesting |
| 2630s | opportunity to get you thinking about it |
| 2632s | and then you have the feedback currently |
| 2635s | lp in fractional warfare has two |
| 2638s | functions |
| 2639s | it's a reward and it's an investment |
| 2641s | currency |
| 2642s | and we're wondering if |
| 2644s | it should have those two functions |
| 2647s | and we're wondering if should it really |
| 2650s | stick to being a reward |
| 2652s | uh currency |
| 2654s | and should something else be the way you |
| 2656s | invest |
| 2657s | because |
| 2659s | having it do |
| 2660s | both |
| 2661s | is |
| 2663s | it causes problems in balancing the the |
| 2667s | the economic aspect there so i mean |
| 2669s | there's no decision made it's just |
| 2671s | something we've been thinking about and |
| 2672s | i think |
| 2673s | it it's it's something that would be |
| 2676s | viable to get your your guys feedback on |
| 2678s | it's it it's a very strange place where |
| 2680s | you like if i don't put anything into |
| 2682s | the ihub someone else will and then i |
| 2684s | can still profit off of that and that's |
| 2686s | not a great paradigm so it's something |
| 2687s | we're very aware of but we don't have a |
| 2689s | specific change for you today |
| 2691s | all right we have time for was this |
| 2693s | getting over at |
| 2697s | five minutes yeah five minutes from now |
| 2699s | okay cool so we have five more minutes |
| 2701s | uh i'm gonna pick |
| 2703s | a couple people so that you guys don't |
| 2704s | get stuck with your hands up here |
| 2707s | you sir in the brave shirt |
| 2710s | and then |
| 2711s | i'm sorry i've already called on you so |
| 2712s | i'm gonna let you go next |
| 2715s | and then yourself |
| 2717s | uh and caprice and we'll do capri slime |
| 2722s | so um |
| 2723s | about the |
| 2725s | goal uh |
| 2726s | for edge fractions and not only for arcs |
| 2728s | but the team you talked about like npc |
| 2731s | general having dynamic goals for |
| 2732s | functional warfare you talk about it's |
| 2734s | not going to be just uh capturing a |
| 2737s | system but it would be like maybe |
| 2739s | completing an objective delivering stuff |
| 2741s | or |
| 2742s | doing hacking and stuff like that |
| 2744s | i was just wondering uh |
| 2746s | if you thought like |
| 2748s | that reminded me of uh the community |
| 2750s | goal from elite dangerous i don't know |
| 2752s | if some of you know of these steps uh i |
| 2754s | was wondering if uh for votes gold we |
| 2757s | will have |
| 2758s | a personal reward according to the |
| 2762s | size that we have contributed to what |
| 2764s | the goal for example delivering uh stuff |
| 2766s | ever simplifying as in the dangerous |
| 2768s | community goal when you deliver a cargo |
| 2770s | you get paid instantly for a delivery |
| 2772s | towards the goal and then depending on |
| 2775s | the completion of the goal and if you |
| 2776s | succeed or not you get another payout |
| 2778s | and i was wondering if it was two kinds |
| 2781s | of periods were |
| 2782s | also planned for what you had in mind |
| 2784s | for the gold in for functional warfare |
| 2786s | on beyond just empire functional warfare |
| 2789s | obviously it was more toward a |
| 2792s | community-based pool down less about the |
| 2795s | personal rewards per contribution so |
| 2798s | the way that i'm kind of looking at this |
| 2800s | is like if we're if we're just killing |
| 2802s | the tier system |
| 2803s | like i want to get a really |
| 2806s | i want to get |
| 2808s | it'll make him really happy too |
| 2811s | if i want to get a really good idea of |
| 2812s | just how much lp is being generated from |
| 2815s | the higher tiers and then we can |
| 2817s | basically redistribute that through |
| 2819s | other methods so |
| 2821s | for something like delivering uh goods |
| 2824s | to help complete an objective you could |
| 2826s | deliver things and then you get paid out |
| 2828s | it's almost like completing a plex |
| 2830s | elsewhere like you you get your like |
| 2831s | instant like standard payout and then |
| 2834s | you're also like on the list for people |
| 2836s | who helped complete that objective and |
| 2838s | then |
| 2839s | if the objective succeeds like you get |
| 2842s | this reward based on your contribution |
| 2844s | or like if the objective fails you get |
| 2846s | this reward based on your contribution |
| 2849s | so it should be kind of similar so |
| 2851s | if you win after you donate |
| 2853s | you still care about whether the |
| 2855s | objective succeeds |
| 2857s | but you also also get that that little |
| 2860s | piece up front as well |
| 2865s | yeah no more glamorous boosters we won't |
| 2867s | do that again |
| 2872s | so during the triglavian invasion uh it |
| 2875s | was easy for |
| 2876s | null blocks to |
| 2878s | insert themselves into something like |
| 2880s | nyarsha where they |
| 2881s | cared about burning things down |
| 2884s | and face very little consequences to |
| 2886s | themselves they're based out in null the |
| 2888s | things that are happening in the area |
| 2890s | space i care about they can come in do |
| 2893s | whatever they want and then leave |
| 2895s | one of the things you talked about was |
| 2898s | the consequences of doing certain |
| 2900s | actions and how that plays out like oh |
| 2902s | we don't want to make it so that those |
| 2904s | poor uh |
| 2906s | goons can't go to jita anymore but i |
| 2909s | really actually want to see |
| 2911s | more consequences for them when they |
| 2914s | insert themselves into empire activity |
| 2917s | they should really suffer |
| 2925s | i think a lot of those people have |
| 2927s | suffered when they realized they had to |
| 2929s | make 40 jumps to jita some other day but |
| 2932s | i understand what you're saying would |
| 2934s | you like to chime in on this one |
| 2939s | i mean i i gave a version of an answer |
| 2941s | to that earlier to our friend from |
| 2943s | lagoons uh |
| 2946s | i would just say yes consequences are |
| 2948s | important in the game |
| 2950s | but this spillover should be |
| 2953s | ultimately should be in both directions |
| 2955s | i think is the answer to that that issue |
| 2959s | all right we are down to about one |
| 2961s | minute so if you guys can make your |
| 2962s | questions quick we'll make our answers |
| 2964s | snappy uh and then |
| 2965s | we'll get out of here hopefully on time |
| 2967s | so i remember from the keynote uh you |
| 2969s | were talking about factions being more |
| 2970s | involved with faction warfare giving us |
| 2972s | objectives to go capture is there a |
| 2974s | chance we can actually see like in the |
| 2976s | trailers we see super capital fleets |
| 2978s | from both factions fighting each other |
| 2979s | is there possibility in the game of that |
| 2981s | actually happening where we see like |
| 2983s | kaldari wanting this system so bad they |
| 2986s | send their super cap fleet to go help us |
| 2988s | take it |
| 2989s | yes |
| 2996s | so a question that i've seen on those |
| 2998s | from the discords when the frontline |
| 3000s | system comes in is there going to be a |
| 3002s | reset of all of the systems in fact war |
| 3004s | or is it going to |
| 3006s | the algorithm chooses which are the the |
| 3008s | frontline systems at that point yet |
| 3011s | undecided um it's it's very likely we |
| 3014s | need to we need to plan for the fact |
| 3015s | that like |
| 3016s | one side just doesn't control any space |
| 3018s | uh kind of the way that we're looking at |
| 3020s | that right now is a cop-out solution |
| 3021s | like their high-sec systems also create |
| 3023s | front lines if you're if you're |
| 3024s | connected to them so that you don't wind |
| 3026s | up with nothing um because if every |
| 3028s | system was a rear guard and you could |
| 3029s | push nothing that would just be real |
| 3030s | real bad um |
| 3033s | the answer is at this point though we |
| 3034s | don't know um there could be a major in |
| 3037s | in-game event which occurs which kind of |
| 3039s | like disrupts the current uh structure |
| 3042s | and then we start fresh at like a middle |
| 3044s | ground like you're |
| 3045s | it's a face off or an icing and hockey |
| 3047s | like we're dropping the puck here |
| 3052s | all right thank you everyone |
| 3076s | you |