[2023] EVE Online | Alliance Tournament XIX - Feeders - Day 2 | EVE Online Dev Tracker

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5s	Warriors of Legends
14s	hallowed and venerated Among the Stars
18s	themselves
31s	a gallery of Champions
41s	winner stays on
58s	welcome back to the alliance tournament
60s	19 feet around this is day number two uh
64s	we are got a whole bunch more exciting
66s	matches for you today we saw a couple of
68s	good ones yesterday a couple of
70s	questionable comps being brought as well
71s	of course and a number of teams going
74s	home a number of teams securing their
76s	spot into the main event later this year
79s	so yesterday a couple of those matches
81s	let's uh let's take a quick look at the
83s	results so we saw the teams of guns one
86s	Federation Platinum sensitivity Brave
88s	Collective the Ancients paper number
90s	numbers Deepwater Hooligans and dark
94s	side secure themselves a spot in
96s	Alliance tournament 19. they are done
99s	until August they just need to practice
100s	practice and try and win some pretty
103s	Pogba prizes uh some other teams didn't
106s	do so well they dropped those matches
107s	and they moved on into the uh the
110s	Elimination Brackets essentially now
111s	they're a situation where they do not
113s	win and they go home and no one likes
116s	that unfortunately we did say goodbye
118s	bye to a couple of teams we saw said
120s	goodbye to Banana we said goodbye to
122s	worm again we said goodbye to Sugar so
125s	today we start with a couple more
127s	elimination matches the first one being
130s	snuffed out versus kitchen sinkhole and
132s	again this is an elimination match no if
135s	it's not for a kitchen cycle don't win
136s	this they do go home winning does not
138s	get them into the tournament however
140s	there are still plenty more rounds to go
141s	and that will culminate in the galenti
144s	gamble uh CCP zealous went into a dark
147s	room shot all the blinds and then came
149s	out days later with this absolutely
151s	insane rule set galenti ships only no
155s	bands no no real restrictions just
157s	complete and utter Insanity so three
160s	teams will eventually have to go through
162s	that
163s	I don't know what you can call it
164s	Gauntlet for one remaining spot so this
168s	first round winning in that that takes
170s	24 of the 28 available slots for the
173s	feeder rounds the other four uh teams
175s	will have to compete for and it will be
177s	pretty gosh aren't riddle I'm joined on
180s	the desk Again by two fantastic
182s	individuals mystical Mountain moderator
184s	mod how are you today
186s	not at all nervous about snuffed out
188s	playing in their first round for their
191s	life but uh glad to be here otherwise
194s	awesome fantastic yeah I forgot uh you
196s	are in snuff that we saw snuffed out
198s	yesterday dropping uh to gundersworm
201s	Federation in a very interesting match
203s	also featured our first boundary of the
205s	tournament from snuffed out managing to
207s	boundary one of their ships straight out
209s	of the Arena you go past 125 kilometers
212s	and uh both CCP sales and CCP convict
215s	are just there with high caliber sniper
218s	rifles ready to blow your ship right up
220s	mystical might how are you some good
222s	matches yesterday there were some good
223s	matches yesterday I'm looking forward to
225s	some good matches again today I think
227s	snuff is probably one of the ones I'm
228s	looking forward to most alongside most
230s	of the Wormhole matches too because it
232s	means I get to Flame other cast members
234s	yeah speaking of one more matches uh it
237s	has not been the tournament of the
239s	wormholder now uh last year we saw
241s	Odin's call Wormhole group make their
243s	way all the way to the Grand Final
244s	before they dropped finally to truth
247s	honor light in an exciting culmination
249s	of last year's tournament they're a
250s	wormhole group uh so they were carrying
252s	that flag for all wormholers all over
255s	New Eden but yesterday
257s	that flag was very much not been carried
260s	by anybody uh every single Wormhole
261s	group that we saw lost by exception of
264s	one where it was wormholer versus
266s	wormholer so by sheer technicality one
269s	normal group had to win uh that's just
272s	like there's no other way around it uh
274s	Wormhole candidates CSM Mark mazaraxis
277s	uh will be with us later on and I'm sure
279s	you'll have some Choice comments to that
280s	uh moderator what do you make of the the
283s	struggle that we've seen from from the
285s	Wormhole group so far
287s	well you have to understand that you
289s	know some of the Wormhole groups are
291s	there because they just can't compete
292s	with the rest of the teams so uh
295s	naturally that's why they have to go to
297s	their own little area no in all
298s	seriousness um there has been kind of a
301s	history of Wormhole teams going very
303s	deep and doing very well uh it just
305s	hasn't been there year so far but uh you
308s	know we have three entire more days of
310s	matches and I'm sure a few of them will
312s	make it to the main event
313s	yeah I have I hope Wormhole groups tend
316s	to be uh you know pretty high skilled
318s	they'll have a good bit of farming of
320s	course but uh a lot of the the sort of
322s	PVP that exists in Wormhole space
325s	um is is pretty intense so I I do have
327s	faith that some of these wormholes uh
329s	will pull something together our first
331s	two matches will in fact feature
332s	Wormhole groups and then we see later on
334s	today we see whole control uh who will
336s	go up against Rusty hyenas Clan so
338s	wormholes you have a chance to you know
341s	pull it back day one wasn't the day of
343s	the wormholder perhaps day two will be
345s	you know www for all of the Wormhole
348s	groups
350s	um we have just a few minutes now until
351s	snuffed out versus kitchen sinkhole so
353s	let us take a look at the bands for this
356s	match
363s	nice I'm just waiting to see if we see
365s	the Bands we do indeed see the bounce
368s	would you like me to reel them off
370s	please I did not do that okay the
372s	snuffed out bands are the scalpel and
373s	the Deacon and the kitchen sinkhole
375s	bands are Blackbird near us
378s	interesting moderator what do you make
379s	of this so scalpel Deacon uh interesting
382s	set of bands Banning out logistic
384s	frigates uh question mark
386s	yeah you basically covered the best two
389s	of the tech two Logistics frigates so
391s	basically you're saying hey you either
393s	have to bring you know a Tech Two
394s	Cruiser Logistics uh or you know you
397s	have to bring tech one frigate and
400s	to complement your other Tech too so so
403s	basically saying you know you're gonna
405s	bring the guardian since we do see in
407s	onero so you're gonna bring you know
409s	um another tech two Shield Cruiser
412s	and mystical my pretty standard looking
414s	bands from kitchen sink called Blackbird
416s	we spoke about yesterday a super
417s	powerful ship in tournament format and
419s	the uniro's probably the strongest of
422s	the armor Tech 2 Logistics Cruisers
425s	um do you see anything being telegraphed
426s	here or is this just pretty standard
428s	bands
429s	one of the Bands looks like it's just
431s	them trying to counter one of the snuff
433s	comps that they brought before the first
434s	enough comp that we saw had two
436s	blackbirds in it it didn't perform well
437s	they lost
439s	um but it's maybe something kitchen
440s	sinkhole don't want to go up against the
442s	ineros ban is interesting because snuff
444s	haven't used in an era so far in the
446s	tournament they've used Guardians and
449s	tech one Logistics frigates
451s	um not using those Tech 2 ones that
453s	they've banned out in this in this round
455s	so I don't know if it's necessarily like
458s	dealing with any particular snuff comps
459s	or if it's just something they've
460s	practiced against and they want to force
462s	enough into a slow-moving comp so
464s	they're removing the logic for example
467s	awesome well it is time to head over to
469s	the arena for snuff dad versus kit and
471s	sinkhole and our casters Mark
473s	resurrectus and for your Viner
480s	hello everybody and welcome to the arena
482s	for the first time today my name is fear
484s	Varner joined by the lovely Mark
487s	resurrectus and on the red side we have
490s	snuffed out they've brought it's almost
493s	a pseudo dad comp they've got some
495s	medium long range guns on their starting
497s	an Absolution but importantly they've
499s	got two curses and not a whole lot of
501s	low end DPS meanwhile kitchen sinkhole
504s	what have they brought Mark yes thank
506s	you fear kitchen sinkhole has brought to
508s	counter the astart and Absolution
510s	they've brought dual Nighthawk with a
513s	host of other Shield ships we have a
515s	shield brawl compost Nighthawks are fit
517s	with heavy assault missile launchers and
520s	the game is now a foot kitchen single
522s	we'll be looking to close that distance
524s	so they can apply those hams up close at
526s	the same time we see now snuffed out
528s	moving back getting some range creating
530s	some distance so they can do some
532s	control plays in the middle
534s	now this Vengeance playing screen right
536s	now for snuffed out as what a few
539s	maintenance spots Shield maintenance
541s	spots have been dropped by the side of
542s	kitchen sinkhole
544s	I'm just trying to poke and prod a
547s	little bit they do need to get in range
549s	for their heavy assault missiles but at
551s	the moment you have to realize snuffed
553s	out they don't actually have that much
555s	DPS they have an EOS a starting
557s	Absolution and that's it for their
559s	medium guns very different to the pseudo
561s	dad comps we've been seeing from other
563s	teams such as Platinum sensitivity uh
566s	that focus on you know eight ships all
568s	with medium guns plus an oracle so uh
571s	has large guns on that one either way a
574s	little bit of damage going on a barrel
575s	in the Drake Navy issue right now from
578s	snuffed out but meanwhile uh these
580s	frigates from snuffed out their carries
582s	their Confessor are being chunked out a
584s	little bit but the strike Navy issue is
586s	going down pretty fast he stalls the
587s	semitar on top of him though with the
589s	cursing is coming out he's not gonna
591s	live that long yeah kitchen sinkholes
593s	DPS is kind of all over the place right
595s	now they've gone back and forth between
596s	the Confessor the carries the Vengeance
598s	this berolt in the Drake Navy will drop
601s	as soon as he gets into armor uh these
603s	Drake names not especially well known
604s	for their armor tanking prowess but as I
608s	say that he's just barely holding on but
610s	he's right in the thick of it he will
611s	not be long for this world at the same
613s	time the carries from you Millennium and
615s	snuffed out uh is now taking well I said
617s	that I was taking some armor damage uh
620s	and is now back up to full so overall it
623s	looks like he's about to drop
625s	and get your single really just needs to
626s	find a focus in in in this swarm of
629s	snuffed out ships and and pick something
631s	that they can nail down
633s	yeah I mean Shield brawl Shield Rush
635s	ships you have to find a Target and pick
637s	it down you typically start from uh what
640s	is the most efficient chip in terms of
642s	DPS for ehp and then you move yourself
644s	uh down that list but starting on the
646s	low end of these utility ships feels
648s	like a little bit of a mistake
649s	especially because they haven't really
651s	been able to catch much with their low
653s	ends quite yet they have a hyena they
655s	have a jackdaw they should be able to
656s	get on top of somebody the caracal maybe
658s	issue already being chunked out to half
660s	Health this curse of duck Slayer finally
663s	getting some damage on top of him but
664s	he's going to at least get this caracal
667s	Navy issue before he goes down if not
669s	more
670s	yeah the kitchen sinkhole Fleet really
672s	is relying on a lot of DPS they have a
674s	ton of DPS in this Fleet those
676s	Nighthawks are scary the caracal Navy
677s	was scary uh that awesome the O and I
680s	also these are ships that have you know
682s	they can apply a lot of damage when they
684s	get in in close but the the stuffed
686s	outfit is is countering that by both
688s	having a lot of armor buffer the
690s	Absolution the EOS of course having a
691s	ton of buffer and having a lot of
693s	control in this Fleet in their in their
695s	their their screening is playing this
697s	really well but we see now that the uh
699s	the duck Slayer and the curse absolutely
701s	swarmed with drones uh but not a whole
703s	lot else over there right now and again
705s	kitchen sinkhole just is not focusing on
707s	anything specific they're kind of spread
708s	all over the place right now
710s	the Scimitar he's got ancillary Shield
712s	booster charges so the curse isn't
714s	affecting him too much right now but
716s	once he runs out of those charges and is
718s	already up three out of the nine times
719s	make that four it's going to be a very
722s	quick deaths for the semi and finally
725s	got some damage on the curse from
726s	Kitchen sinkhole uh on to snuffed out
728s	but he's living to win at the moment uh
731s	with their tech one Logistics frigates I
734s	mean this is just a weird comp from
735s	snuffed out but the execution just not
738s	there from Catching senko right now
739s	they're about to lose their Scimitar and
741s	they have yet to kill a single member of
743s	the snuffed out team yeah that
745s	scimitar's Shield HP was bouncing back
747s	and forth like a yo-yo he will drop and
749s	even if they kill the carries now which
751s	it seems like they were trying to go in
753s	on on the carries of you Millennium
754s	early uh or at least within the last
756s	couple seconds I don't feel like trading
758s	three of your ships including your
759s	lodgies a fair trade for a single
761s	carries
763s	yeah at some point you just got a
766s	question the target calling priority
767s	from uh this side of kitchen signal or
771s	their ability to actually grab a target
773s	with their low ends they have a hyena
775s	they have long range webs but this time
777s	around they just haven't been able to
779s	grab anything at all they lose their
781s	Osprey Navy issue right off the bat uh
783s	these Nighthawks are about to go down as
785s	well even though they are fairly tanky
786s	ships they are easier to kill with these
788s	medium guns uh than the hyena carries
790s	checked all and mollus will be uh he's
794s	1983 the primary target for snuffed out
798s	and they will win this match 100 to zero
801s	uh goodbye kitchen sinkhole at least you
804s	went out with a win in feeders so I got
807s	minus 50 points for you instead of minus
810s	100. uh here is to hoping Novak actually
813s	wins their match because otherwise I'm
815s	gonna be minus 100 out of feeders yeah
818s	these I'll tell you the with these these
820s	kind of all in Shield Rush fleets that
823s	rely on so much of this up from damage
825s	from The Nighthawks so much of it relies
827s	on your application and being able to
828s	hold something down and if you can't do
829s	that you're going to be in a rough spot
831s	and as we saw here you know well played
834s	of course by the snuffed out team but
835s	really kitchen sinkhole needed to pick a
837s	Target needed to find something they
838s	could grab and really needed a lot more
840s	I think from their low end to to support
842s	the height I mean they had a ton of DPS
844s	at the start of this match and we could
846s	see the attack bar was so high to start
848s	and you know that has all just fallen
850s	off now when this Nighthawk goes down
851s	they'll have nothing else except for a
853s	couple ships that are maybe lucky to
855s	avoid being shot just by hiding out the
857s	uh the the handful of of uh sunkout
861s	tackle but more than likely they are
863s	going to get slapped as well
866s	yeah Shield Rush getting kited I mean it
869s	is unfortunately the thing Shield Rush
871s	doesn't do super well if it's a
873s	Nighthawk based one is actually chased
875s	down upon uh kiter ships even these
877s	armor kite setups uh still I can't help
880s	but think that stuff that's comp was a
882s	little bit weird here uh they didn't
885s	have that much overall DPS and this time
888s	around they just haven't uh really uh
893s	like I feel like this was kitchen set
895s	tools match to lose and they definitely
897s	lost on execution here yeah not played
900s	especially well I mean these kind of
902s	these kind of armor control fleets are
903s	are you know they're tricky uh you know
906s	they they have like I said quite a bit
907s	of armor buffer but uh you counter that
910s	with a lot of VPS and security single
911s	had a lot of DPS you're absolutely right
913s	it was their match to lose and sure
916s	enough they have lost it we see Goya
918s	rollered in the carries going down we'll
921s	pass it back to the desk after an
924s	exciting if not perhaps predictable
926s	about half way through first match to
928s	the second day of feeders in the
929s	alliance tournament 18.
931s	19.
937s	[Music]
939s	farmers
943s	[Music]
950s	[Music]
974s	foreign
975s	[Music]
991s	snuffed out there securing themselves
994s	continuation in the feeders for Alliance
996s	tournament 19 Mark
999s	um over kitchen sinkhole who perhaps
1001s	should have brought a plug to uh you
1003s	know stop everything trading straight
1005s	down the drain out of the tournament
1006s	they are gone they are done thank you
1008s	for playing uh we'll see you next year
1012s	um mystical might interesting comps
1014s	bought by both teams look their kitchen
1016s	sinkhole had a pretty high DPS Rush comp
1020s	um we heard the casters talking about
1022s	how uh it looked like from the start
1025s	that you know they should have had that
1026s	match based on on the matchup yet they
1029s	didn't what happened
1034s	I think it was an interesting mix of
1037s	snuff playing okay and kitchen sinkhole
1040s	playing badly
1042s	um kitchen sinkhole brought a hyena I
1045s	think everyone's expectation behind the
1046s	scenes was that the hyena would be able
1048s	to pin down one of the larger ships like
1050s	the Absolution and get the rest of the
1053s	team on it so all of The Nighthawks and
1055s	the direct navies the Oscar Navy the
1057s	caracal Navy
1058s	and that's going to be doing a lot of
1060s	damage right you're not going to be able
1061s	to keep that up with the two laundry
1062s	frigates that they had on their side
1065s	um So eventually you'd be able to go
1066s	through each of the core ships the
1068s	damage dealing ships on the snuff side
1070s	and they'd have nothing left
1072s	um instead kitchen sinkhole decided to
1074s	kind of loiter in the middle of the
1075s	arena for a bit for making any decisive
1078s	decision to burn towards the snuff team
1080s	and by that time
1082s	um snuff had managed to pull back a bit
1083s	they'd been using their curses to start
1085s	draining capacity from some of the ships
1086s	I'm on the kitchen sinkhole side as we
1089s	saw with the Drake Navy for example
1090s	which was dead in the water wasn't able
1092s	to turn on its hardeners and just fell
1094s	through wraps
1096s	um and kitchen sinkhole importantly
1098s	didn't have any range projection and no
1100s	way to deal with frigates so they were
1102s	pinned down by the tackle from the snuff
1104s	team while the curses were guidance
1106s	disrupting them which means that they
1108s	were applying poorly and they couldn't
1109s	project Beyond like 10 kilometers anyway
1111s	so they had no way of actually Breaking
1114s	Free at that point so yeah it was just
1116s	enough match to slowly and gradually win
1118s	as long as they didn't make any big
1119s	mistakes
1121s	and more do you want to be feeling
1123s	pretty pretty chuffed with snuff there
1125s	uh your your home team taking their
1128s	first victory over the last tournament
1130s	19 feeders and continuing to exist for a
1134s	little while longer how do you feel
1135s	right now
1136s	you know I'm feeling you know pretty
1138s	good about it they have another chance
1140s	in
1141s	um the round four if they win they're in
1143s	and if they lose at the stage of the
1145s	tournament all teams uh would be going
1148s	on to the gallenti gamble or the
1150s	absolutely insane uh match that somehow
1153s	CCP zealous came up with uh but on the
1156s	whole I'm glad that they're moving on
1159s	awesome I wanted to also ask you a
1161s	little bit about um how because you've
1163s	played in a bunch of matches uh with
1164s	some pretty high-end teams over the
1166s	years
1167s	um when you were up in a situation like
1169s	that you have this kind of this Rush DPS
1172s	Rush comp one of the most important
1173s	things at that point is Target calling
1175s	so how does that normally go down from
1177s	the team lands in the arena
1180s	so you land on grid you look at the
1184s	ranges that you're at and that the other
1186s	team's at you look to see what kind of
1187s	weapon type they have fit and then you
1190s	base their decisions off of that then
1191s	you assign individual pilots and players
1195s	to say hey this is going to be our
1197s	general kind of game plan adjust as we
1199s	need uh tackle here's what we want you
1201s	to get on top of ECM this is what you
1203s	need to lock down amps you need to
1204s	mitigate Target ranges on these chips
1207s	and it's a lot of just assigning uh
1209s	different roles to your players that
1211s	should know their ships and understand
1212s	their capabilities and in this match it
1215s	seems like uh both lotto and Athena did
1220s	a pretty good job at understanding what
1221s	they needed to do and just stringing out
1223s	that Navy Drake stringing out that
1225s	Nighthawk and not allowing them to
1226s	allowing them to get on top of any of
1228s	the snuff core
1230s	that's a great um great point and it
1232s	brings me right on to my next one
1234s	mystical might uh one of the things that
1236s	we talk about all the time both in times
1238s	of matches and also hear people talking
1239s	about this on TQ as well the concept of
1242s	screening uh going to walk us through
1244s	what screening is why it's important you
1246s	know how one might do it yeah um so in
1249s	Eve online screening is the term that is
1252s	often used
1253s	um when a team or a group of Romas or
1256s	anyone else
1257s	utilizes tackle ships within their comp
1259s	to slow down hostile ships that are
1262s	burning towards them typically so if
1264s	you're screening you're stopping
1265s	hostiles from getting tackle on You by
1268s	either using your long-range webs that
1270s	hyenas rapiers hugans have for example
1272s	or you're using scrams which you have on
1275s	your vengeances or your male addictions
1276s	things like that your tackle ships
1278s	basically an effective screen is usually
1281s	one that can burn past the target or
1283s	close enough to the Target to scram them
1286s	to turn on my warp drive off or to get
1287s	their webs off for a time without
1289s	necessarily lingering in the same area
1291s	to get tackled back so there are
1293s	different ways of screening and
1295s	depending on what you need your ship to
1296s	do sometimes you'll fully commit the
1298s	Vengeance onto the Nighthawk because the
1299s	Nighthawk can't kill it but if you're
1302s	going up against a lot of medium guns
1304s	for example maybe having your Vengeance
1305s	out of position isn't the best thing so
1307s	you'd want him to to fly in scram and
1309s	fly away again really quickly
1310s	essentially it's just a way of
1312s	protecting the core ships on your side
1314s	from the hide probably high damage
1316s	dealers on their side so you can make
1319s	better use of your own range advantage
1321s	awesome so that was a interesting match
1325s	over our own first match of the day uh
1327s	Wormhole is taking unfortunately yet
1329s	another L uh and a living stuffed out to
1331s	continue wormholes have another chance
1333s	in our next match it's going to be the
1335s	initiative versus no vacancies so let's
1337s	take a look at the bands for this
1339s	upcoming contest
1347s	all right so uh the initiative Banning
1349s	out the balgorn and the Blackbird uh I
1353s	think again Blackbird becoming a Super
1355s	common band we're really seeing this one
1356s	getting getting chosen all the time uh
1359s	Ball Ground also kind of common
1362s	um we saw a bunch of them yesterday and
1363s	then Novak Banning out the Scimitar and
1365s	the carries perhaps a bit more
1366s	interesting set of bands there moderator
1368s	what do you think of these bands from
1370s	Novak
1371s	yeah Novak is choosing to ban out two
1374s	ships that we would see typically in a
1376s	more uh kind of uh Shield or even a
1379s	control setup so uh you ban Scimitar
1382s	because
1383s	um you're you know it's it doesn't rep
1386s	as much as it's uh called our encounter
1389s	Park
1390s	but it's much more faster much more
1392s	mobile uh and very hard to also screen
1395s	or attack on like we were talking about
1398s	earlier and the carries is going to be
1400s	just a very common generic and like the
1403s	Blackbird wanting to get rid of
1404s	effective T2 damps
1407s	and Misty Banning out this uh burger and
1411s	Blackbird uh two ships that are pretty
1414s	good at kind of countering on the shack
1417s	called perhaps even a double the share
1418s	comp and we saw the initiative uh
1420s	brought that yesterday they seem to
1422s	quite like it you know do you think
1424s	they're almost telegraphing hey you know
1426s	the Shack's pretty cool we might bring
1428s	them again
1429s	I think it go it could go one of two
1431s	ways I think the balcon and the
1433s	Blackbird combo is very good against
1435s	both of the concert initiative brought I
1437s	think they brought the Lush access to
1438s	like you mentioned but they also brought
1440s	a Nighthawk sleptner Rush as well and
1443s	the combination of long range webs and
1446s	really strong needs from the balgo one
1448s	would uh in combination with the jams
1450s	from the black bear so that they can't
1451s	actually shoot anything that's tackling
1453s	them would also probably be fairly
1455s	deadly to their ability to win those
1457s	matches so I I think it's just a strong
1459s	pairing anyway I don't think no
1461s	vacancies have flown about going or a
1463s	blackbird yet in this tournament but
1465s	maybe it's something that initiative
1466s	practiced against and have decided they
1468s	again can't deal with it with the comps
1470s	that they want to bring in the feeders
1472s	uh on Banning strategy mod
1475s	um if you're going to put bands in for
1477s	your team you've seen what the what
1480s	ships the other teams like to bring
1481s	you've got a little bit of information
1483s	you know what your comp doesn't do well
1485s	against that you want to bring you know
1487s	how much of one are you leading in are
1489s	you going all just unbanning what I
1490s	don't want to see or are you going to
1492s	try and Target bands against what the
1493s	other side likes to bring
1495s	I mean it could be a little bit of
1497s	column a column B if you know that your
1499s	opponents are a one trick and really
1502s	only have one really really good comp
1504s	you can just say hey no fun allowed
1506s	you're gonna have to bring something
1508s	else that you're not as good or uh
1510s	practicing and uh there can also be you
1515s	know a thought process of hey maybe
1517s	we're just weak against this we don't
1518s	like it
1519s	um in the end you should understand how
1522s	your comp fare against every other kind
1524s	of generically good comp in the event
1528s	and kind of Base your banding strategy
1530s	around if we ban this and this it means
1532s	this is open and we can bring this comp
1534s	uh that's a little bit of the strategy
1536s	we're going to start seeing in the main
1538s	tournament not so much in the theaters
1540s	just quite yet because we don't have
1541s	enough bands available
1543s	yeah we have only two bands for each
1546s	team and the way the Banning system
1547s	works uh analyze term 19 is both
1550s	captains submit two bands completely
1552s	blind from the other the other team you
1555s	just submit them you say hey we're
1556s	Banning those chips if those chips
1558s	happen to contain any duplicates then
1561s	you get what we call trickle bands so if
1563s	you both choose to ban a ballgan uh then
1566s	you would have a third bank if both of
1568s	you choose to ban say balgar and bar
1570s	guest then you both will get two more
1572s	bands if they all happen to be the same
1573s	as well then you know cool you know
1576s	maybe try to be more original but it
1578s	there's no more bands after that so
1579s	there's a potential for a maximum of
1581s	four bands per side with a total of six
1583s	possible ships maximum being banned in
1585s	each match this is different from the
1587s	main tournament it's less bands which
1589s	means it's a little bit easier in my
1591s	opinion uh to you know not be banned out
1594s	of comps the the number of ships
1596s	available leave online compared to say
1598s	uh you know 10 plus years ago when two
1601s	bands was was the common system has
1602s	obviously increased and there's a lot
1605s	more opportunities to you know go off
1607s	the wall and bring some interesting uh
1609s	Shenanigans but I think we are almost
1612s	ready to go to the arena so let's hand
1615s	over to see the initiative go up against
1617s	no vacancies with our casters the
1619s	Basilisk and Theron of valorax
1624s	hello everybody Welcome to the arena I'm
1625s	joined as joined by for the first time
1627s	valarax from uh volter obviously a top
1630s	four team so they can just sit back and
1631s	relax and watch with the rest of us as
1633s	uh everyone battles out how's it going
1634s	down hi pretty nice to be here uh
1637s	suddenly I'm not playing this tournament
1638s	but I'm gonna be looking at the guys and
1640s	during from the sidelines
1643s	so it looks like uh dark shines is
1645s	pretty much in
1646s	um in touch with his inner triglavian
1648s	because they brought less sharks again
1651s	that we saw yesterday that I think a
1653s	couple of us behind the scenes didn't
1654s	really like but I think it's a different
1655s	variant of the double effects I don't
1657s	remember them having an Armageddon with
1658s	it as well
1659s	um and it's going to be quite an
1660s	interesting matchup to see how it comes
1661s	up in this presumed Newt War that's
1663s	going to go on here with uh you know the
1664s	Armageddon on the other side of Fury or
1666s	at least for no vacancies
1667s	interestingly neither of those guidance
1669s	have any lunches so this is going to be
1671s	full nude getting on both sides as well
1675s	I think the other thing is the
1677s	arbitrator here I think the arbitrator
1678s	is quite an under underrated ship the
1680s	arbitrator and the Sentinel combo
1681s	together you get so much disruption it's
1683s	exceptionally powerful and when as you
1685s	said there's no guns on the Armageddon
1686s	so all of initiatives damage is going to
1688s	be on those two Le shacks and tracking
1690s	disrupts can just break your spool or
1692s	just stop you spooling entirely you
1693s	literally can't shoot if they're out of
1694s	range even if you load Nissan and you've
1697s	got 15 kilometers range you're still
1698s	another Shack you haven't really got the
1699s	speed to get on top of them it can be
1701s	very very difficult to play the game if
1702s	that arbitrator goes uncontrolled that
1704s	is right uh dark shines though is
1706s	charging forward it's a little bit of a
1708s	risky play because like the other um
1710s	Armageddon and the other check is a
1711s	little bit behind so let's hope that
1712s	they don't get screened and then bumped
1714s	off so they kind of deal damage and
1716s	spool
1717s	um the storm bringer actually by Carl J
1720s	those is already working on the drones
1721s	on the other side One Flight of the Bots
1724s	is already down they're working now on
1726s	the DPS drums um that modules coming in
1728s	though so he's doing a field day heavy
1730s	I'm about to drop on the initiative side
1732s	and they are slowly going towards the
1734s	shark of dark shines seems to be primary
1736s	this this Punisher of style Steve has
1738s	burned in his I think to try and hold
1739s	down this little Shack just land a scram
1741s	on him but he's immediately swarmed with
1742s	a bunch of acolytes coming from the
1744s	initiative ships here so this Punisher I
1746s	mean I'm not sure if he's still holding
1748s	scram here if he's actually just
1749s	tackling if his Target got away and if
1751s	he's just held by the Magus or something
1753s	but it doesn't look like he's
1754s	particularly where he wants to be around
1755s	Punisher obviously a very tanky tech one
1757s	frigate but if he hasn't grabbed
1759s	anything then you know he's kind of
1760s	stuck there and he hasn't done what he
1761s	needed to do
1762s	I'm not sure if he didn't like get um
1764s	hit by a heavy uh news or something and
1766s	then stopped in his tracks goes like
1768s	there are two midships so they cannot
1770s	have a cup um booster on it
1773s	um dark shines is slowly heading to half
1775s	um
1776s	um but it does and the fury all the
1779s	listen I'm not getting is Comfortably
1781s	tagging right there on the other side
1782s	it's not looking good because the nudes
1783s	are going to be starting to take effect
1785s	the longer the match goes on
1788s	yeah I'm not sure about killing the
1789s	Punisher here because I mean once you've
1790s	got him scrammed he's not really doing
1792s	anything he's already missed his Target
1794s	you've sprung the Trap you've evaded it
1796s	both of your Shacks have got through but
1797s	you don't you don't really need to kill
1799s	the Punisher anymore you can hold him
1799s	with something else and just keep
1800s	putting those distract damage into
1801s	something else you keep pumping the
1803s	Armageddon you need to keep pushing
1804s	forward here because dark times as you
1805s	said is going to take damage here and
1807s	I'm not certain that they're going to
1808s	win the new war here and this get him to
1809s	get a match up
1811s	yeah Rocky is the only Shack that is
1813s	currently shooting and um his
1814s	disintegrator is not the bright red that
1816s	we want to see it's still like oranges
1818s	so I don't know if his spool is even
1819s	that high maybe he got broken off maybe
1821s	he got bumped off got out of the range
1822s	but um um it's not looking very good for
1826s	the initiative team right now
1828s	they have finally got these the Shacks
1830s	parked up right on top of Fury orderlies
1831s	though although dark shines does need to
1832s	learn to press control space and stop
1833s	his because he's massively out
1835s	tracking himself right now
1836s	um hopefully he'll slow down I think the
1837s	other team is helping him out a little
1838s	bit by webbing and he is entering low
1840s	armor here he's probably not even going
1841s	to get to sports along in fact is he
1842s	even shooting his guns I think he may
1844s	just be suffering really heavily from
1845s	the new pressure here from this get him
1846s	there is a lot of split DPS on the uh
1849s	Novak side The Inquisitor is getting
1851s	damaged the hyena is getting damaged the
1853s	Magus is getting damaged on the
1854s	initiative side so there's a lot of
1856s	strain on those two attack oneology
1858s	frigates and dark shines is no longer
1860s	for this world
1861s	yeah they're sort of caught between a
1863s	rock and a hard place because one of the
1864s	weaknesses of those logic frigates is
1865s	their range they've got decent fall off
1867s	on the Reps but I think they're optimal
1868s	range is like five kilometers so if
1870s	you've got you know you're trying to
1871s	deal with half your Fleet on one side of
1872s	the grid and the other half you know
1873s	trying to peel off the little Shacks
1875s	um sorry peel off those bad arm again
1877s	and just keep keep the doubt keep the
1879s	Reps flowing in both directions it's
1880s	very hard to position yourself in a
1881s	place that sort of helps both sides of
1882s	the match and in that situation you've
1884s	got to choose which one are you gonna go
1885s	for you can't help them both so
1887s	it just forces you into a difficult
1889s	position
1890s	interesting that the hyena like seem to
1892s	absolutely accomplish nothing for the
1894s	initiative team maybe it got muted off
1897s	um but it definitely did not screen The
1899s	Punisher it didn't help catch anything
1901s	on top to deliver those little Shacks so
1903s	um
1904s	and then one first Inquisitor is down
1906s	for the initiative I think this is going
1907s	to be a spiral they cannot uh recover
1909s	from anymore
1910s	yeah I mean like you said at the start
1912s	the armageddon's don't even have guns so
1913s	even after they clear this no vacancies
1915s	Armageddon the damage won't change it'll
1917s	still be in about an Absa and EOS
1919s	pumping into you the second Inquisitor
1921s	is going to go down and that much damage
1922s	will be able to just rip through what's
1924s	left on the initiative side here and
1925s	this is indeed looking like an issue
1926s	they're going to be heading for an early
1927s	exit
1929s	do you think that maybe
1931s	um the tele bands the initiative have
1934s	banned balgoons three times in a row I
1935s	believe so was it a little bit of a
1937s	Telegraph and the vacancy were really
1939s	smart to capitalize on that and prepare
1941s	for this very top heavy uh even heavier
1944s	than in the previous matches version
1945s	with the Armageddon on top
1947s	yeah I think it's possible I think you
1950s	know seeing the bow gone ban balgown
1951s	when it comes to new Wars is just such a
1953s	terrifying Prospect because you can't
1955s	really mute it out if it's got noses
1956s	it'll always win
1958s	um so it's it's just it's you've got the
1961s	range on the Armageddon
1962s	um and I think initiative we're hoping
1964s	to use the range newts on the Armageddon
1965s	without the presence of album on the
1967s	other side to screen it and just push in
1968s	and get the Shacks on target but it
1970s	hasn't really worked out as you said the
1971s	hyena not really making much progress
1972s	the Vengeance I don't think I saw the
1974s	Vengeance go particularly aggressive at
1975s	the start and this double shot comp you
1978s	can see when you land you've got a
1979s	little bit of time there's an arbitrator
1980s	on a sentinel you know that your tubular
1981s	Shacks are not going to have much range
1982s	and you need to get pushing in ASAP
1986s	that's right and uh at the same at the
1988s	same time um
1990s	I'm pretty sure that those Sentinel and
1992s	the arbitrator they didn't bother even
1994s	with GDs so that LE Shack with um occult
1997s	is going to be like 3K maybe and um
2001s	added the new pressure on top I don't
2003s	think this is a fun time for the zarya
2005s	enjoyers over here
2007s	yeah I gotta be honest I think Alex
2009s	katsuo in the uh Sentinel is probably
2011s	having a great time because from my
2012s	experience in scrims when you come up
2013s	against all these comps like this where
2015s	it's got like two really heavy gun
2016s	battleships and you're flying like a
2018s	little Sentinel and you're tracking
2019s	disrupting them both and you're just
2020s	zooming around them at like three
2021s	kilometers like you will never touch me
2023s	you can't touch this and that you can
2024s	see them red boxing you know they're
2025s	trying to kill you and they just can't
2026s	hit you this pathetic little five-point
2028s	disabling both battleships it's
2030s	such a powerful feeling
2031s	I'm really curious as the last check
2034s	um on either side well really that was
2036s	only a initiative mind but I I'm really
2038s	curious if they even had the cap
2040s	transfer because um uh due to the magic
2042s	of cup transfers um they can elevate a
2045s	little bit of a news pressure maybe that
2046s	would have given them a little bit of a
2047s	easier time and as I say that the other
2049s	Initiative for Shack Bites the Dust
2051s	pretty red explosion
2054s	yep so it's just gonna be clean up now
2056s	for no vacancies and it's looking like
2057s	it's not even going to be a single point
2058s	on the board for the initiative here
2060s	with just minimal damage left the
2061s	Armageddon of Fury is surely gonna pick
2063s	back up now and it is going to be no
2064s	vacancies eventually continuing on I
2067s	believe to face snuffed out I think it's
2068s	next Sunday uh we'll have to double
2071s	check the schedule for that but I think
2072s	they those teams will match up against
2073s	each other next Sunday and I believe the
2075s	winner of that will advance
2078s	um so that'll be one to watch for sure
2079s	it's really nice to see a warm holiday
2081s	team advance and take on another
2083s	medium-sized group like independent uh
2085s	initiative Alliance
2087s	um even though they've lost I have to
2088s	give a shout out to the Stormbreaker
2091s	choice because I think it's very nice we
2092s	we are seeing a lot of inquisitors a lot
2095s	of deacons and uh what do you think it's
2097s	in general those teams they tend to
2099s	generally rely heavy on the arm robots
2102s	so having that stormy zap them safely
2104s	from 80 kilometers away or even 120 I
2108s	think is the um last uh snipe strike
2112s	range you can do nothing about that and
2115s	this is like a really important part of
2117s	the um of your composition to keep those
2120s	logic frigates alive with uh with all
2121s	your Bots
2123s	yeah for sure when it comes to lodgy
2124s	free get comps most of the like the tank
2126s	of the logic frigates isn't in Rory HP
2128s	it's in mitigation with their size and
2129s	their speed so relative to their HP bars
2133s	the impact of lodgybots is far far
2135s	greater so like you say the Stormbreaker
2136s	to zap those drones can be super super
2138s	impactful and yeah it was a really smart
2139s	choice to bring it but yeah it just
2141s	wasn't enough to swing the match in this
2143s	case good idea I didn't pan out
2147s	I think for the Armageddon of Master
2149s	Turin to go down surely but slowly uh
2152s	he's actually taking his sweet time
2153s	today so maybe he's up as I said that he
2156s	just chunks straight to the uh the
2158s	structure of Hip-Hops
2163s	yeah congratulations to no vacancies
2165s	they've made it the second weekend
2166s	unfortunately for initiative they are
2167s	knocked out uh let's send it back to the
2169s	studio
2171s	guys stop being casual they're really
2174s	bad we should not lose anybody to this
2176s	warp off work off take the Sleep warp
2178s	everybody warp off this is really really
2180s	bad execution I'm very disappointed
2186s	another great haul back from Amar damn
2189s	I'm thirsty
2191s	[Music]
2208s	Yeah we actually lost a bet as CCP
2210s	collectively so that's why that Alliance
2213s	logo is in the game of course you could
2215s	change your alliance by leaving but that
2216s	would be kind of a jerk move that kind
2218s	of oh you don't like it though sucks I'm
2221s	gonna go join
2237s	[Music]
2240s	no vacancies finally finding room at the
2243s	end as they win over the initiative and
2245s	secure it themselves still further
2247s	deeper into this feed around of course
2250s	the initiative we say goodbye to them
2252s	they are they are out for now uh we will
2254s	not see any more of them of course that
2256s	means there are pilots uh no longer have
2258s	a team to compete for in Alliance
2259s	tournament 19. perhaps they could mark
2261s	for a successful team that has maybe
2263s	made its way into the Min tournament an
2265s	example being gunsmart Federation that
2266s	would be a team that perhaps could look
2268s	for pick up some extra Pilots you never
2270s	know I'm sure those two teams in the
2271s	past have uh have worked
2273s	between each other
2275s	um mystical might
2277s	what do you think of bringing an
2278s	Inquisitor and a deacon obviously if you
2280s	bring two deacons you're gonna get hit
2282s	by Point inflation but you know
2284s	The Inquisitor is the tech one it's a
2287s	lot weaker right
2289s	say it's necessarily A Lot weaker it's a
2292s	fair bit weaker than the Deacon but I
2295s	still think it's one of the tankier
2296s	logistics frigates that you can bring
2298s	and in terms of the rep amount I don't
2300s	think anyone's bringing lodgy frigates
2302s	with the intention of fully keeping
2305s	something up during the match it's more
2306s	about delaying its depth and allowing it
2308s	more time on grid so I don't think it's
2310s	necessarily a bad decision to bring The
2312s	Inquisitor and the Deacon together as a
2315s	fairly tanky Duo frigates that can get a
2318s	little bit closer than maybe the Navitas
2320s	and Thalia can because those are a
2323s	little bit more prone to dying
2325s	um if they get shot so I I think it's an
2327s	okay decision and it gives them a few
2328s	more points that they can use then to
2330s	flesh out the rest of their comp
2332s	allowing them to do a bit more damage
2336s	yeah speaking of points
2338s	um moderator we saw the initiative bring
2341s	71 points just in battleships with uh
2345s	dual Shacks taking the extra points from
2347s	the point inflation Rule and that full
2350s	new Armageddon that's a huge amount of
2353s	points in just three ships
2355s	yeah we're seeing a lot of teams bring
2357s	this double the shack core it has been
2359s	decent ish in previous tournaments but
2363s	one of the things that we're seeing now
2364s	a lot is it very much get bullied by
2368s	teams like no vacancies that bring
2370s	essential arbitrator and when you throw
2372s	all of those tracking disruptors and put
2375s	it into optimal range on a shack your
2378s	optimal range is basically nothing as
2381s	the cast alluded to so it's definitely
2384s	fallen out of favor and I I frankly wish
2386s	teams would stop doing it it's 2023. you
2389s	got to get new scratches and new comps
2393s	message you think uh the initiative you
2396s	know was there a point they could have
2397s	taken that match and swung it or was it
2400s	really no vacancies to to lose
2402s	essentially
2405s	to say I'm trying to think exactly about
2408s	what strategy the initiative could have
2410s	used to win
2411s	um they both had the Armageddon I think
2414s	the no vacancies Armageddon was put to
2415s	better use than perhaps the initiative
2418s	one
2419s	um as the Armageddon on the No Vacancy
2421s	side was able to turn off some of the
2422s	lashac spools and micro walk drives over
2425s	the course of that match so both
2427s	resetting their damage down to the base
2429s	damage that they do at the start but
2431s	also lowering their mobility and their
2433s	ability to catch up to their no
2434s	vacancies team I think that the
2437s	initiative probably should have taken
2439s	greater steps to play behind their
2441s	Vengeance and their hyena they pushed
2444s	their battleships forward towards the no
2446s	vacancies team and we saw dark shrines
2448s	fly into the lead and then kind of get
2450s	isolated if they played behind the
2452s	Vengeance and the hyena I think they
2454s	would have had a better chance of
2456s	catching one of the vacancy ships
2459s	um kind of alone and then they can put
2461s	their Grapplers to use because it looked
2463s	like both sides were utilities and
2464s	Grapplers to maybe web down some of the
2467s	inquisitors and things like that on the
2468s	vacancy side if they got close enough
2470s	for them to want to swap I think they
2472s	could have just powered through the
2474s	abandon our Absolution to be honest
2476s	um without needing to worry too much
2477s	about shooting the Armageddon first as
2479s	that's likely to be the tankier ship
2481s	because you don't need heat sinks for
2482s	your note for your newts to be good
2485s	awesome thank you and one last thing on
2487s	that match
2488s	um for you mod we heard one of the
2490s	casters there was talking about how uh
2493s	it looked like dark shines needed to
2494s	control space and he might be out
2497s	tracking himself what exactly was Darren
2499s	talking about there
2500s	yeah so uh turn it ships unlike missile
2503s	ships have this uh rate at which your
2506s	guns can do the spinny thing around and
2508s	actually Focus fire on top of another
2511s	ship and when you are in a battleship
2514s	your guns are very slow at actually
2516s	physically turning and doing that so if
2519s	you are going faster in a straight line
2521s	then your actual guns can spin around
2524s	and catch up with that and we do see
2526s	this excellent infographic shown by our
2529s	production team uh explaining how
2531s	tracking Speed Works unfortunately dark
2534s	shines especially with the tracking
2535s	disruption that was on him would have
2538s	had a great deal of difficulty keeping
2539s	up and actually applying damage
2542s	awesome thank you I I wasn't even aware
2544s	we had these Graphics ready to go this
2546s	opens up a whole new world for us we
2547s	could talk about all sorts of mechanics
2549s	good to know so thank you very much for
2552s	that uh yeah but as I said the
2554s	initiative done no vacancies in zone uh
2557s	let's move forward and look at our next
2558s	match so we have our code versus test
2561s	Alliance please ignore let's check out
2564s	the bands and see what these two teams
2566s	are choosing uh not to face
2570s	so it looks like uh test Alliance please
2574s	ignore Banning out the looky and the
2576s	carries interesting to Banner are
2578s	looking not a very common ship it's
2580s	quite heavy in points as well we don't
2582s	see them super often in fact usually uh
2585s	the uh the Russian teams tend to field
2587s	them more than more than the rest but
2589s	again interesting band and then barcode
2591s	Banning out balgorn and curse so eor is
2594s	not their Forte let's look at my any any
2596s	further thoughts on these bands here
2598s	it's interesting to see the Loki band
2600s	come out from test maybe they've been
2603s	um scrimming against some of the rush
2605s	comps that we know about like The
2606s	Nighthawks slept news low-keys things
2608s	like that which we've seen in previous
2610s	tournaments I don't know how effective
2612s	they would be in the tournament this
2614s	year but perhaps it's something they've
2616s	tested against and their comps haven't
2617s	done too well against the combination of
2619s	high damage from the hams and the long
2621s	range webs that Loki possesses and the
2624s	carries I think is just going to be a
2625s	standard ban alongside things like the
2628s	curse in this tournament just because
2629s	with the rule change to the damps only
2633s	being able e-war in general being only
2636s	allowed on ships that have bonuses for
2639s	that e-war
2640s	you're limiting the ability for other
2642s	teams to bring damps that will
2644s	some of the comps that you may be able
2645s	to bring and the carriers is just a
2647s	strong ship anyway
2649s	exactly uh any any further thoughts on
2651s	these bands from you moderator
2654s	yeah I'd like to see kind of the the
2656s	Belgian curse man is basically saying we
2659s	really really hate Newt we really don't
2660s	want to get controlled it's also a setup
2662s	that I would bring if I wanted to bring
2665s	either a kite or a rush to the
2667s	potentially uh curse is very good at
2670s	kind of nuding out things like logic
2671s	frigates that you need uh and
2674s	balgorn again good at using its newts
2677s	and webs to control Rush setup so
2681s	um I'm interested to see what all five
2684s	members of both barcode and tappy bring
2686s	to this
2687s	yeah this could I mean underman comps
2689s	are a thing they tend to not do very
2692s	well uh if this is your first time
2694s	watching uh the alliance term in any
2696s	form welcome uh this is 10v10 this takes
2699s	place on Thunderdome these are the
2700s	feeder rounds the teams are competing
2701s	for 28 total spots to get into the main
2704s	tournament four teams already got direct
2706s	invites by virtue of coming top four
2708s	last year that is truth on a light
2711s	Odin's call we from Volta and the
2713s	tuskers the rest of every team that
2716s	wanted to join they have to run through
2717s	this Gauntlet now worth mentioning um we
2721s	have come back to round one matches now
2724s	so this is a win and in match for this
2726s	these two teams if barcode win this they
2729s	are guaranteed a slot in Alliance
2731s	tournament 19. if test Alliance please
2733s	ignore witness they're guaranteed a slot
2735s	in Alliance tournament 19. so this is
2737s	one of those moments where you have to
2738s	think hey you know how all end do we go
2741s	do we want to just just go balls to the
2744s	wall get our first win and then we can
2746s	relax go back to practice until August
2748s	or do we try and play a little bit
2750s	subtle
2752s	I mean I don't know what the standards
2754s	of these two teams are obviously uh so
2756s	Darius from test a long time tournament
2758s	veteran he's he's pretty you know pretty
2760s	up there with uh with good Pilots
2763s	barcode team they had success and I
2765s	think online tournament 15. we haven't
2767s	seen them much since then mystical might
2769s	do any predictions of what we might see
2771s	here
2772s	um I'm gonna I'm gonna hope for my
2774s	friends in Winter Cohen and pray that
2777s	tests managed to get through on the
2778s	first round I expect that barcodes have
2781s	basically quit Tranquility to play
2783s	entirely on Thunderdome and practice for
2786s	the 80 because that I think is Peak
2788s	small gang gameplay
2791s	um but you know maybe they choke you
2793s	know I think a lot of the members are
2795s	fairly new to the to the tournament
2796s	scene so maybe some of the boundary
2797s	looking at you Abu
2800s	awesome well we're almost ready to go to
2802s	the to the arena it looks like test
2804s	lines please ignore are coming on demand
2806s	bringing Just nine Pilots to this
2809s	competition so can those nine Heroes win
2811s	for test lands please ignore or will
2813s	barcode take the win let's go to the
2815s	arena with Mark resurrectus and fear of
2817s	finer and find that
2819s	foreign
2825s	welcome back everybody it's me Mark
2827s	resurrectus here with fear Vina we're
2829s	now the third match of the day we have
2832s	the team from barcode a very interesting
2836s	Alliance uh name uh also pronounced
2840s	who have a kind of an armor uh control
2843s	comp with dual exec Navy's EOS oniros
2847s	Prof Navy brutix Navy and Oracle and
2849s	fear what are we seeing from the team
2850s	from thessalance please ignore
2853s	uh Tapia brought an underband King
2856s	Slayer comp and I want to to point out
2859s	real quick that typhoon has a rate of
2863s	fire bonus and the Armageddon Navy issue
2864s	has a damage bonus
2867s	so their clip times will not align up
2870s	this is not typically what you want to
2872s	see in a king's uh and a king killer
2874s	setup uh they are up against a lot of
2876s	medium ships though so it might work out
2878s	for them but first off the bat this may
2880s	just being chunked out quite heavily by
2882s	these medium guns from barcode but
2884s	conversely the Oracle not a very tanky
2887s	ship as it is an attack battle cruiser
2888s	is going to be the target from test
2890s	Alliance please ignore yeah we see the
2892s	barcode Confessor coming in to kind of
2894s	get some range but perhaps provide a
2896s	little bit of screening there in the
2897s	Middle with the British Navy of necrox
2899s	uh the rest of the team is posting up in
2902s	in sort of a back uh Arc away from the
2905s	team from test while the team from test
2907s	again is is kind of spreading out you've
2909s	got the arm getting in the Middle with
2910s	the typhoon there as well Deacon of
2912s	course in the Pawnee there with them
2914s	well the vigi celestes makers and value
2916s	all kind of hang towards the back line
2918s	both these seams neither one teams
2919s	really want to engage too heavily but
2921s	now we see the Oracle of coconut water
2923s	in getting chunked deep into armor I
2926s	will need match reps quickly or you will
2929s	go down but as I say that the Typhoon
2931s	from solarius and test Alliance also now
2933s	chunking into armor there's a back and
2935s	forth between these two see which one
2936s	will go down first
2938s	yeah there's just a lot of damage in
2939s	these medium guns plus large guns from
2941s	the Oracle uh with the pseudo died setup
2944s	coming in from barcode and they're
2946s	actually able to keep this Oracle alive
2947s	through the rapid heavy Clips I think uh
2950s	this might be an A B Oracle or something
2952s	of that nature because typically rapid
2954s	heavy should be able to deal with an mwd
2956s	version of the ship uh fairly quickly I
2958s	don't know that for a fact though uh
2960s	either way this typhoon also has capped
2963s	shreps but meanwhile this Deacon
2965s	absolutely demolished by barcode and
2967s	they might move on to Thalia next these
2969s	medium guns working exactly as intended
2972s	yeah barcode absolutely making the the
2974s	true gamer play to go for the lodge
2976s	early this T1 free Lodge if you can find
2978s	a way to apply to it uh is is absolutely
2981s	going to melt it does not hold up quite
2982s	as well some of the other ships on grid
2984s	and you know what's really good at
2985s	killing smaller ships or smaller guns
2987s	which is exactly what they have fit now
2989s	the hyena from Star Melnick on the Barco
2991s	team now getting chunked into armor but
2993s	again the Logie the Fernando neroes of
2996s	Sid the Kid shout out to my boy Sid is
2998s	absolutely doing the God's work over
3000s	there to keep these ships up and make
3001s	this seem competitive
3003s	yeah an Aeros rep's very very powerful
3006s	obviously Some people prefer the
3007s	guardian but uh just the nearest I think
3010s	is typically uh what you see from a lot
3013s	of these kite setups in armor just
3015s	because of the better cap of the ship
3017s	this Vigilant of Sapporo Jones is now
3020s	being taken down by the medium guns of
3022s	the barcode side and sapo love you man
3026s	but the Vigilant as much as uh Wingnut
3029s	doesn't want me to say this not a very
3030s	good tournament ship and uh just way too
3033s	squishy way too slow and it will go down
3035s	right now yeah a little too squishy to
3038s	be hung out kind of where he was out in
3039s	the middle uh kind of out by himself
3042s	again especially with only one Lodge he
3044s	left on grid you're going to be in a
3045s	tough spot there either way now we see
3047s	the Magus of somniferous AE being
3051s	chunked into armor and again just a
3052s	single Thalia is not going to be enough
3054s	to keep this up and there's just so much
3055s	damage left on the side from barcode
3058s	they're going to have their way with the
3059s	rest of this team I would be surprised
3061s	if they don't 100 to zero the team from
3063s	10 who came in undermanned against a
3067s	very good team from from barcode and uh
3070s	yeah this is not I think too surprising
3073s	considering what we saw at the beginning
3074s	of it uh but either way well played from
3076s	the team from barcode well test has
3078s	finally turned their rapid heavy zones
3080s	in the arrows but unfortunately uh
3082s	barcode probably has this as a dual prop
3084s	in arrows so he should be able to escape
3086s	these rapid heavy missiles pretty
3088s	effectively especially with his own
3090s	armor rep we'll see how well that works
3093s	down I don't know if the scenaris is
3094s	tackled it is not uh it is just being
3097s	damped right now by the celestis so uh
3099s	should be able to live for at least a
3101s	bit of time while it uh swaps props but
3105s	by the way test Alliance plays like Nora
3107s	can color setups not amazing against
3109s	armor kite setups and we're seeing
3112s	exactly why uh this time around they
3116s	just did not the catch to be able to
3118s	hold the Target down and kill it and the
3120s	rapid Heavies if you're not killing
3121s	someone in a single clip it's not gonna
3123s	work for you and we saw that uh earlier
3126s	around this typhoon also once again with
3130s	a rate of fire bonus that's not the
3131s	bonus you want to see in a king killer
3133s	setup that's why we typically will see
3134s	typhoon fleets over the typhoon just
3137s	because a pure damage setup uh from
3141s	every or pure damage bonus gets you a
3144s	better clip times or ratio of time
3146s	you're doing DPS to time you're doing a
3149s	Reload saldarius goes down and test as
3152s	you mentioned probably gonna lose this
3153s	hundred to zero yeah the the the the
3156s	Barco team really played this about as
3158s	well as they could have because if you
3159s	if you're not going to defend somebody
3161s	and go for their DPS first the next best
3163s	thing you can do in a lot of cases just
3165s	to take away their hands right which is
3167s	what they did they went for the low end
3168s	they use those medium guns they applied
3170s	well took out the logic we see the last
3172s	value going down just now and with with
3174s	that left all they have left now are the
3176s	two get navies which are great ships
3178s	love these ships you know very strong
3180s	but against you know a fully operational
3183s	Barco team not long for this world uh
3187s	and teslance will go down here uh
3190s	thankfully this is not their last match
3191s	they have one more to pull it out later
3193s	on today but we will see the team from
3196s	barcode Alliance uh advancing to the
3200s	next round
3202s	uh yeah they will be playing and it's 20
3205s	20 I believe yeah uh
3209s	tournament the next round
3212s	whoever picked them guaranteed at least
3214s	minus 10 points thank you Jen for your
3216s	scoring system that makes absolutely no
3217s	sense whatsoever uh just kidding I I
3222s	love you we do love you all right I I
3225s	gave you I gave you the the heart with
3227s	my hands but you can't see it because
3228s	I'm not on camera and you're just gonna
3230s	have to trust me there I'll put on the
3233s	cat ears next time you're on camera
3235s	thanks I agree uh Army got a Navy of
3237s	hvap pimp slap I want to be the next one
3241s	to go down and then they'll finally work
3242s	on the celestis barcode making it look
3245s	pretty easy up against the test Alliance
3247s	please ignore Grant you they were on
3248s	demand but also just the match-up not
3251s	good for the king killer setup as armor
3254s	ships really really are okay dealing
3257s	with rapid Heavies especially when you
3259s	have mismatched clip times like what
3262s	Tess was dealing with there
3264s	yeah I love this I love this Fleet comp
3266s	from uh barcode excited to see how they
3269s	do in our at 19 in August we'll head it
3273s	back to the desk
3275s	from here at the third round
3280s	[Music]
3290s	[Music]
3310s	[Music]
3319s	thank you
3320s	[Music]
3339s	[Music]
3344s	[Applause]
3352s	[Music]
3354s	barcode there checking out of the
3356s	feeders and into the main tournament
3358s	securing themselves a spot in Alliance
3361s	tournament 19 will see them in August
3363s	meanwhile test Alliance please ignore
3365s	they wanted to bring kingslayer their
3367s	mom said hey we've got kingslayer at
3369s	home and that's what we saw moderator
3371s	talk to me about that kingslayer setup
3373s	from test Alliance please ignore there
3376s	sure so King Slayer is a composition
3379s	that was made by essentially Hydra
3382s	reloaded uh many years ago what it is is
3385s	you take a core of usually at least
3388s	three
3390s	um heavy rlml battleships and what you
3393s	do is you try to kill the logistics
3396s	which was why it was called a king
3398s	Slayer you try to break that and then
3400s	from there on out you slowly work
3402s	through the rest of the core
3404s	um unfortunately tests couldn't even
3407s	really kill
3410s	um
3411s	the Oracle on that side of barcode which
3415s	does not bode well
3417s	um unfortunately one of the issues with
3419s	kingslayer as brought by test is that it
3423s	really needs a couple things you need
3424s	long-range webs to actually apply and
3428s	hold something down so that that
3431s	combined with ideally a painter to mix
3434s	your rlml damage apply that much better
3438s	foreign yeah it did seem that they
3441s	struggled to apply Misty as we saw them
3443s	go initially for the Oracle uh Oracles
3446s	of course not exactly famously tanky
3448s	ships uh usually they're basically uh
3450s	you know a glass Cannon and there's
3453s	pretty heavy DPS comp could not break an
3456s	oracle uh surely at that point the test
3458s	team had to be thinking oh you know what
3460s	do you do then in that scenario
3463s	in to a degree I can see where it makes
3466s	sense that you would try to primary a
3468s	high damage and fairly non-tanky ship at
3471s	the beginning of the match if you're
3473s	able to break through the Reps then
3475s	you're clearing both the battle
3477s	Cruiser's worth of I guess large gun
3479s	damage
3481s	um but also you're making sure that
3483s	there are fewer ships on the other team
3484s	that are able to headshot your smaller
3486s	ships
3487s	um with application from the hyena
3489s	assisting the Oracle you're probably
3491s	going to get some decent shots in on
3493s	some of those lower end things like the
3495s	maguses and you need those for your
3497s	links anyway
3498s	um failing that they should have just
3500s	switched straight to the ineros and
3502s	ideally they would have had long-range
3503s	webs and some form of rep drone clear
3506s	whether that is smart bombs on the
3507s	battleships or Ace I was going to say
3511s	Stormbreaker but skybreaker is probably
3512s	better because it takes up a frigate
3514s	slot it's fairly quick and it still
3516s	projects projects very far and it also
3518s	applies a bit better than Stormbreaker
3519s	gun does
3521s	um with the small Arc Voltron projector
3524s	Thing versus the medium
3526s	um it's a mouthful of a name and you
3528s	don't need to know because you're not
3529s	going to see it much on TQ anyway it's
3530s	fine initiative's the only one that
3532s	flies it
3533s	um
3534s	so yeah anyway ideally you would pair
3536s	those together with the rapid heavy
3538s	missile launchers and they didn't so
3540s	they were already starting off on the
3541s	wrong foot
3543s	uh mod one of the things uh the barcode
3546s	did was they brought quite a lot of
3548s	medium guns which obviously have decent
3550s	range decent tracking decent projection
3554s	um you know they brought two exactly
3555s	Navy issues which got buffed about a
3557s	year ago I believe in the uprising
3558s	expansion uh super popular ship now in
3561s	tournaments uh you know mobile fast
3563s	Tanki High DPS long range pretty good
3565s	and then they brought that hyena and a
3567s	Confessor as well so it felt like to use
3571s	a uh a turn of phrase those logic frags
3574s	were not long for this world right from
3575s	the very start
3577s	um how do you feel about you know
3578s	bringing this sort of medium gun setup
3580s	against what could quite easily be uh
3582s	Logistics triggers
3584s	I think it's one of the better options
3585s	you have uh as some of the casters have
3589s	been mentioning Navy executors got a
3592s	recent buff like you were just saying
3594s	but they're also Point discounted
3595s	because this is a gallante sponsored
3597s	tournament and the sheer value that a
3601s	pair of those brings for 14 points
3603s	you're doing more than Battleship damage
3606s	especially with close and ammo and they
3609s	bring a lot of Mobility they're very
3612s	good at kind of being an intermediate
3614s	tackler so you have between your
3617s	Confessor your Mueller your high net
3619s	those two executors you have five ships
3621s	that can really get down on top of
3623s	something and really just not let it go
3625s	and that's exactly what we saw with
3627s	those logic rigs we saw the paints in
3629s	the webs of the hyena and then they just
3631s	got destroyed by that tracking
3635s	yeah and I just want to give a bit of a
3638s	call out to one of the logistics
3640s	frigates of test one went down pretty
3642s	quickly the other one did a pretty
3644s	incredible job of positioning himself
3646s	around our Casters in the back talking
3648s	about it
3649s	um you know moving around as a sole
3651s	Logistics figure you got to be super
3652s	aware of your positioning Mister you've
3655s	you've obviously seen this done uh in
3656s	various matches uh talk to me about how
3659s	important and how hard positioning a
3661s	logistics frigid is yeah I've flown
3664s	Logistics frigates a fair bit as well
3667s	um while I was still playing in the
3669s	alliance tournaments alongside Lucas
3671s	Khan
3672s	um
3673s	it's fairly
3675s	tricky it depends on the setup you're
3676s	going up against I think you need to
3678s	identify whether they have ships that
3681s	are able to get on top of your Logistics
3683s	forgets and do damage first of all
3686s	you're thinking about things like speed
3687s	pools but then you also need to think
3689s	about maulers as well not necessarily as
3691s	damage dealers but as ships that will
3693s	have newts that will just want to follow
3695s	your Logistics frigate around and
3697s	basically delete it from the game by
3699s	reducing your ability to rep things
3702s	when you're being shot in a logistics
3705s	frigate you need to also make the
3706s	determination whether you can hold under
3709s	the Reps from your Logistics frigate
3710s	friend or whether you are going to waste
3713s	as much time as possible by just burning
3715s	away dragging those drones with you
3717s	making them switch to longer range ammos
3719s	that they have to spend all of that time
3721s	trying to kill you or they have to
3723s	switch to something else we use that to
3725s	great effect and a lot of our alliance
3727s	Open matches where I think Lucas
3729s	basically died first every time because
3730s	his name is recognizable
3732s	and I'm a nobody so that's fine and then
3735s	they'd switched to me and I'd end up on
3736s	the edge of the Arena just dying to some
3738s	drones somewhere but that that's all
3740s	damage that isn't being done to the rest
3741s	of my team while my team is getting to
3744s	work killing things so it's just about
3746s	clear communication with your Logistics
3748s	friend
3749s	um and also understanding how much you
3750s	could achieve alone on the based on what
3753s	your
3754s	what the other team has on grid
3757s	awesome thank you yeah it's pretty hard
3759s	I've done a bit of a logistics for good
3761s	piloting and uh you know mainly practice
3763s	matches and it is it's pretty intense
3765s	you don't have a good line of
3766s	communication with uh with your other
3768s	partner and yeah the the lack of range
3771s	compared to the the tech devices
3773s	Cruisers means that positioning becomes
3775s	so Giga important all right let's look
3777s	at our next match up of the day which is
3780s	going to be till Doomsday versus
3781s	literally triggered and again this is a
3784s	win and in match so let's look at the
3787s	bands for this so till doomsday Banning
3790s	out the guardian and the Blackbird uh
3793s	where it's literally triggered burning
3794s	out Blackbird and Nighthawk then we have
3797s	trickle bands coming in for the first
3799s	time today till doomsday choosing to ban
3801s	the curse and literally triggered
3803s	Banning out the kitsuni so not there's
3806s	gonna be a significant lack of ECM in
3809s	this matchup uh moderator what do you
3810s	what do you make of these bands here
3813s	yeah literally triggered trying to get
3815s	rid of the Nighthawk that has been a
3817s	core of a lot of these Shield Rush
3819s	setups that we've seen in past years but
3821s	also saying man I really really hate
3824s	getting jammed by
3826s	um kind of the these medium point but
3829s	very high effective uh ships uh till
3831s	doomsday uh again maybe they've seen
3834s	something that makes them not want to
3837s	see the guardian or Nero system or
3839s	common band but a curse is a solid third
3842s	band for just all the reasons we've said
3844s	throughout the day just how much
3846s	tracking disruption and neutralization
3849s	up it applies
3851s	yeah you must come out anything to add
3853s	about these bands here
3857s	I I know that we usually favor the
3859s	ineros on on the desk whenever we're
3860s	talking about the armor T2 Logistics but
3864s	I do think the guardian has a fair place
3866s	in the online tournament scene it's not
3869s	as fast or versatile as the ineris is
3873s	because it doesn't have that many mids
3875s	so typically we favor the ineros because
3877s	it's able to fit in my court drive maybe
3879s	an afterburner a cat booster and the
3881s	sensor Spirit wants to so it's harder to
3884s	jam it's harder to pin down and it can
3887s	still rep whereas the guardian has more
3889s	rep power and is I think a little bit
3891s	tankier than the ineros but it only has
3894s	one prop mod and it can only fit the cat
3896s	booster or a sense booster typically a
3899s	cap booster because you want a rap so it
3902s	is more susceptible to jams which is
3903s	where you may see the Blackbird band
3905s	come in
3907s	um you know if you're trying to feel
3909s	that right
3911s	um I don't really know what it suggests
3912s	about the literally triggered it's uh no
3916s	sorry the other team uh not literally
3918s	triggered till doomsday I believe with
3920s	the ones that banned the guardian I
3921s	don't know what it suggests about what
3923s	they're going to be Fielding because if
3924s	they can deal with a Narrows I'd imagine
3926s	they can probably deal with the guardian
3927s	eventually it would just maybe take
3929s	longer so I'd be interested to see what
3931s	they come up with
3933s	as will I and it looks like just looking
3935s	in twitch just now um we have the
3938s	predictions are currently being run by
3940s	the uh the incredible CCP convict
3943s	um so make sure you gamble away your
3945s	Twitch points to see if you can win more
3947s	twitch points at the moment looks like
3948s	nearly a million Channel points going on
3950s	to literally triggered uh 250 000 going
3954s	on until doomsday so clearly a bit of a
3956s	crowd favorite here uh r l trig uh it
3959s	would be interesting to see if that
3961s	faith is you know well placed or can
3963s	till doomsday have a great
3966s	redistribution of the the channel Point
3968s	well of course you can take those points
3970s	and turn them into random galnet skins
3973s	in the game uh which is pretty cool
3975s	those Skins are pretty awesome and of
3977s	course you can keep hold of them and
3978s	keep trying to earn more and more and
3980s	more and then go all in on some match
3982s	and lose everything later on or maybe
3985s	maybe we win again you never know
3988s	um so we have just about a minute to go
3990s	uh so I think I think we can head over
3993s	to the arena so the match is till
3995s	Doomsday versus literally triggered and
3997s	we have our casters the Basilisk and
3999s	they're on the followers
4010s	hello everybody Welcome to the arena I'm
4011s	the basilis joined by pharonth
4014s	um we've got literally triggered here uh
4016s	in this fairly standard I think from
4017s	them uh two armor Battleship core they
4019s	seem to quite like this last year I
4021s	think they used a lot of the uh Tempest
4023s	fleets but this time they're going for
4024s	Vindicator megathorn maybe so pretty
4026s	heavy armor call they're backed up with
4027s	uh sort of assorted armor smaller that
4030s	you tend to expect in this kind of two
4031s	armor Battleship setup so I guess
4033s	pontifex links hyena carries malam
4035s	mawlers so just a lot of evil support in
4037s	the low end there
4039s	interestingly uh the garden bun they
4042s	opted to burn the garden but they still
4043s	brought an auger is it like they were
4045s	really worried that the guardian would
4046s	be filled by the other team but um still
4048s	bring the Army and we are off uh The
4051s	Vindicator is charging forward while
4055s	um the mega chance also come in so they
4057s	both teams are setting up for a brawl
4060s	yeah immediately tele Merlin and the
4062s	mollusk gets absolutely blast out of the
4063s	Arena he's gone those smaller stamps are
4065s	not going to be happening and the
4066s	carries of Hilo is looking pretty soon
4067s	to follow
4068s	um the one thing I do want to be careful
4070s	of for um till doomsday here is lodgy
4073s	frigates the Deacon that they've got
4075s	um if he gets in range of The Vindicator
4077s	the Bindi webs can be absolutely
4078s	devastating so they are in fact deciding
4080s	to just pump straight through the Bindi
4081s	here
4082s	um with all the damage while while they
4083s	still haven't taken any losses just get
4085s	that Bindi off the field stop him
4086s	applying those webs and it will help to
4088s	stabilize you know anything that's
4090s	taking damage and if they can if he has
4091s	the ability to swap to the lodge if he
4093s	gets to stabilize the logic frigate as
4095s	well
4095s	it is an interesting choice to go in
4097s	with all those prophecy navies and Olga
4099s	and the Absolution as they all are
4101s	sporting the long range guns this is
4103s	what's killing those um dumping ships on
4105s	the end of uh eldric and now the hyena
4108s	is also taking damage so he's not going
4109s	to be long for this world at the moment
4111s	they start tracking at the same time uh
4114s	The Vindicator is
4116s	um taking damage and like he's bleeding
4118s	structure right now so I think after
4120s	after he dies it will be really
4122s	difficult to come back from this
4125s	yeah it's excuse me it's uh he's just
4128s	getting absolutely pumped right now he's
4130s	sat on top of the Megatron Navy's those
4131s	two are pumping each other Elias and
4132s	lumahan
4134s	um but of course you've got the
4135s	Absolution you've got the prophecy
4136s	navies you've got the organization
4137s	they're basically just stationary parked
4139s	up at their optimal range just blasting
4140s	into this Vindicator and he is going
4142s	into hole now and as you say with losing
4143s	those webs and the DPS from The
4144s	Vindicator it's going to be a big big
4146s	loss for the team and obviously the
4147s	auger as well of LAX booster is going
4149s	down on the Deacon and Thalia basically
4151s	untouched and I I really doubt the
4153s	ability of literally triggered to
4154s	actually deal with the Deacon and Thalia
4156s	at all without The Vindicator wheel I
4157s	mean they've got webs on the hyena but
4159s	it's it's still just not quite enough
4160s	when you've got two battleships for your
4162s	damage
4163s	what would Theology and The Vindicator
4164s	anchor of the team basically die at the
4166s	same time it's interesting to see that
4168s	the auger was actually uh trying to run
4170s	away from validation and Confessor and
4172s	slowing down and picking up speed so
4174s	there was definitely some capacity
4175s	problems over there maybe
4177s	um it's just well it's just inaugural it
4179s	doesn't have much cup and wrapping up
4181s	um takes a lot of it they were going to
4183s	lose the Crusade that most likely over
4185s	here
4186s	um on the Doomsday side but I don't
4189s	think this is going to matter anyway
4191s	yeah that's just a little bit of Solo
4192s	pvping in the low end there where you've
4194s	got the confesses out uh fighting each
4196s	other you've got a swarm of red Bots
4197s	over there as well it's just a little
4198s	bit of sort of low end fighting but
4199s	ultimately it's not going to matter here
4200s	because there's just not going to be any
4202s	damage left from the top end of the
4204s	Megatron Navy here
4205s	um
4206s	they do lose the mega from Navy but the
4209s	L3 one is true to follow in a couple of
4211s	seconds now as well as the Ponte well
4213s	the thing they could have done anything
4215s	better over here
4217s	uh I think they needed to get the vindi
4221s	onto the lodgy frigates I think if you
4222s	leave the logic frigates alive
4224s	um it makes the match very very
4225s	difficult I think having the hyena webs
4227s	to start it off get that initial grab on
4229s	one of the logic frigates and then get
4230s	rolled up of India put the Bindi web on
4232s	it and then just blap it out of the sky
4233s	I think you need to do that at the start
4235s	because if you leave it until the match
4236s	goes on and maybe your Mindy's chunked
4238s	and you lose it or it's not you can't
4240s	get onto the logic as it's tackled by
4242s	something else it just makes it a very
4243s	very difficult scenario to come back
4244s	from
4245s	the same time they did have Armageddon
4248s	so I wonder if this arm again how
4249s	impactful it was on the uh till
4251s	Wednesday side because
4252s	um the other both auger and navy and the
4254s	deacons and the Confessor they they're
4256s	they can be basically Alpha by the heavy
4258s	Newt and this is going to make the job
4260s	of chasing and shooting and as I say
4262s	that Megatron 90 on the LG goes down but
4265s	um this loan um again I wonder if it
4267s	couldn't have been utilized in a way so
4269s	that you can get rid of at least some
4271s	DPS so your windy has easier time
4273s	tracking and you can actually put him to
4274s	work because as you said Baza even the
4277s	hyena is not going to be enough to kill
4280s	um a deacon wilderman or tenant man
4282s	enable that Mega Navy to track and
4284s	really apply sdt as the Bindi webs are
4286s	something that you cut a unique thing
4288s	that you cannot really replicate that
4290s	way
4291s	yeah I saw a really interesting not to
4293s	get two maths nearly like I did last
4294s	night but I saw a really interesting
4296s	chart the other day that basically
4297s	showed like the effects of different
4298s	numbers of webs and how they stack upon
4300s	each other and it was something like
4301s	four normal Tech 2 webs so 60 webs on an
4304s	unbonused whole something like that is
4306s	the equivalent in terms of tracking
4307s	bonus from one vindi web so vindi webs
4310s	are insanely powerful and you need to
4311s	stop those ships if you're going to try
4313s	and kill the Deacon and Thalia the other
4314s	thing is the Mala here as well I think
4316s	we may have not seen the the newts on
4318s	the mallow used to its full potential as
4320s	you said with the Armageddon you can
4321s	Alpha their cap but they are going to
4322s	have cat boosters to just boost it back
4323s	up the Mala with the smaller medium new
4326s	cycle time is just it's so oppressive if
4328s	you can get it on one of the frigates
4329s	unfortunately because of this one has a
4331s	full rack of heavy pulses so oh yeah
4334s	usually I would agree with you but not
4337s	in this case
4338s	um the Muller has actually taken over
4340s	vexor in a couple of years as a choice
4342s	to um pick one uh youth Cruiser just
4345s	because it's so tanky and has so much
4346s	power grid you can fit a full rack of
4348s	mediums and don't even sweat it
4350s	um the Armageddon is down for electric
4352s	side the hyena is sure to follow so um
4356s	this is going to be a clean Victory
4358s	unfortunately they've lost the um the
4361s	Navy Mega themselves on the Crusader but
4363s	teams are advancing for the bracket yeah
4365s	I'm glad for this because I get points
4367s	that was a great ratio on that one I
4368s	think it was like 20 of which points
4371s	were until doomsday so I'm gonna get
4372s	five to one return on my 20 000 points
4374s	there let's go
4375s	it's good to see at least one of the
4376s	alliances that live in the south that
4378s	has been liberated from the oppressive
4379s	grasp of the fire Coalition a couple
4381s	months ago it's going to go into the
4383s	main event
4387s	and the molar is down and then we go for
4389s	the Vegas and that's fit pretty much
4399s	[Music]
4407s	[Music]
4414s	rain are you in the armor Vagabond or
4417s	something no um I've got XL ISP
4422s	and polarized guns
4430s	casing you you are one of two people
4433s	that couldn't listen and couldn't check
4436s	bookmarks and find your own way out the
4438s	route the entire route was literally
4440s	bookmarked out to Lasik I bookmarked the
4443s	10 minutes in advance
4445s	guys stop being casual they're really
4447s	bad we should not lose anybody to this
4450s	warp off warp off take the fleet warp
4452s	everybody warp off this is a really
4453s	really bad execution I'm very
4455s	disappointed
4461s	so that's it for uh till doomsday as we
4464s	won't see them until August uh as they
4467s	take that W over the triggered securing
4469s	themselves a spot in Alliance tournament
4472s	19. uh it was as I said before a is when
4475s	and in at this point for these teams uh
4478s	literally triggered we will see them
4480s	again they have the opportunity now to
4481s	go through a large number of matches uh
4485s	and potential to get one of those final
4487s	spots uh it's really it's so good if you
4490s	win this first match like it's you know
4492s	up to 10 minutes and then you're
4494s	straight into the the main tournament
4496s	like that's I can't put it any more
4498s	easier than that like if you win this
4500s	match you're doing well otherwise you're
4502s	gonna have to sit there and focus uh for
4504s	a potentially a couple more days and try
4505s	and kill off a couple of like pretty
4507s	tough wins
4509s	um would you say 10 minutes but of
4511s	course if it gets to the full 10 minutes
4513s	and the teams are tied on points and we
4517s	get uh one of the more fun things uh
4519s	about the alliance tournament that is
4521s	reverse time dilation so if the teams
4525s	are tied at 10 minutes then what happens
4528s	is normally when we hit tie-dye on TQ
4530s	everything starts to go slower down to
4531s	10 percent of normal speed which is uh
4534s	you know 10 times slower but in the
4536s	alliance tournament things get faster uh
4538s	the server starts to just like you know
4541s	give the hamsters a little bit of red
4543s	bill and we send them on their way and
4544s	they start running and running and
4546s	everything moves faster so when you get
4548s	to I think first of all it goes to 200
4550s	tie-dye which means everything's
4551s	happening twice as fast so your modules
4553s	are cycling twice as quickly your ship's
4555s	moving twice as quickly uh you know
4557s	things burn out twice as quickly and
4559s	this keeps ramping up and ramping up and
4561s	ramping up to I think
4564s	750 percent uh is the cap which is seven
4568s	and a half times faster uh pretty absurd
4572s	uh if I'm brutally honest uh mystical
4575s	Murray I think we saw last year in the
4576s	alliance tournament uh the first first
4578s	time dilation match in a long time uh do
4581s	you think we'll see any this year
4583s	I'm I'm thinking a lot of teams are
4585s	leaning more towards heavy damage comps
4588s	I think most teams are comfortable with
4590s	just bringing as much damage as possible
4592s	to a grid and then not quite brawling it
4595s	out because there's a lot of projection
4597s	going on in the mirror at the moment but
4599s	basically just punching each other in
4600s	the face until one of them falls down is
4602s	I think the general idea behind most
4605s	teams I think the the time that we were
4608s	most likely to see time dilation or
4610s	reverse time dilation was back in the
4612s	marauder Meadow where you could just sit
4614s	with Bastion in the middle of the arena
4615s	and both teams bring a Marauder and then
4617s	you just punch each other in the face
4619s	and no one dies until someone runs out
4621s	of capisters basically or mismanages a
4624s	module in the seven and a half speed
4626s	that they get
4627s	um I don't think it would be that likely
4629s	to see Tyler this this tournament unless
4631s	teams decide to start around the edge of
4633s	the arena and not do much for the first
4635s	eight to nine minutes of the match
4637s	yeah that's a good point we used to
4640s	allow the Bastion module in Alliance
4642s	tournament I if I remember correctly
4644s	Alliance tournament 13 was the year of
4646s	the marauder there's plenty of times the
4649s	match could end with just two Marauders
4651s	both in Bastion mode just shooting each
4654s	other and it would just start to ramp up
4655s	ramp up and eventually go to some sort
4657s	of uh tie brick situation at the end of
4659s	reverse tie-dye and but I do remember
4661s	one extremely exciting moment when
4664s	um there was a paladin and a Golem
4667s	fighting each other and the the Paladin
4669s	was out of range really of the the Golem
4673s	and it couldn't really project very well
4674s	and they're both wrapping each other the
4677s	Paladin comes out of fasting mode starts
4680s	immediately
4681s	eating quite hard but he turns
4684s	aligns towards the the Golem mjds right
4688s	on top of him goes back into basti and
4690s	wraps himself back up slaps he's heavy
4691s	newts on and then starts to slowly
4694s	demolish the Golem it was a very
4695s	exciting moment uh in what was
4698s	essentially a lot of incredibly
4700s	painfully boring matches so we banned
4703s	the Bastion module uh moderator what do
4706s	you think about that is there still a
4707s	space former Rodgers without Bastion
4711s	[Music]
4712s	um
4713s	a lot of the space that has been taken
4716s	by what the unbasking Marauders has been
4719s	kind of taken over excuse me by some of
4722s	the freshly uh buffed uh battleships a
4725s	lot of them have gotten a lot better uh
4728s	we see some of the tech 2 uh Black Ops
4731s	actually taking some of the space and
4734s	frankly a lot of the Marauders for the
4737s	points just really haven't been worth it
4740s	because it means you can bring one maybe
4743s	two of them you're jumping all your
4745s	points into two ships it can be very
4747s	easily guided into track and disrupted
4749s	and you often just don't get that much
4753s	of value for the points it cost
4757s	now let's take a quick uh review back of
4760s	the the match that we just saw so that
4762s	was still doomsday defeating literally
4764s	triggered
4765s	um some interesting piloting perhaps on
4767s	the literally triggered side that was uh
4769s	being noted by some of the casters uh it
4772s	looked like we saw uh Misty one chip
4774s	just burning Sweden at the start and he
4776s	got Shrek pretty hard and then we saw an
4779s	Armageddon kind of running around doing
4780s	his own thing uh what happened there
4784s	well it's hard to know exactly what
4786s	happened in the minds of the pilots that
4788s	we see on grid but I would say that the
4791s	Armageddon wasn't necessarily playing
4793s	optimally
4794s	um I think Bart pointed out in one of
4796s	the the bat channels that the Armageddon
4798s	was successfully newting the battle
4800s	cruisers on the non-litally triggered
4804s	side which was the till doomsday side
4807s	there we go but managed to perhaps
4810s	misposition himself and then when I
4812s	looked over at the Armageddon he was
4814s	putting all of his notes on the logic
4815s	for it so it wasn't exactly the most
4817s	efficient use of his newts
4819s	um he did eventually swap to an
4821s	Absolution so you know credit where
4823s	credit is due he got back to the job at
4825s	hand
4826s	um I think that the
4829s	literally triggered side could have
4831s	played better
4833s	um they misplayed a lot
4834s	um considering the the comp that they
4836s	had I think the Vindicator should have
4837s	been put to use a lot more with pinning
4840s	down some of the smaller ships in
4841s	clearing some of the logistics frigates
4842s	where possible when they got in range
4844s	but also they should have all just kind
4847s	of stuck together I think they got
4848s	fairly spread out with the augura
4850s	burning off into the sunset the follower
4852s	carries and eventually out positioning
4854s	himself so The Vindicator fell quite low
4856s	before he got back into range
4858s	yeah it's uh because sometimes be super
4861s	easy to almost like Target fixate like
4863s	you see your body going down and you
4864s	burn after them and then you just end up
4866s	in the wrong position uh and then you
4868s	know whenever it is swapped back onto
4870s	you know perhaps say The Vindicator
4872s	you're gonna have to turn around burn
4874s	back in and potentially you know
4877s	overshoot that way and get yourself in a
4878s	spot of bother but you know that's just
4881s	something that comes from experience now
4883s	I want to talk a little bit about one of
4885s	the changes uh from Alliance tournament
4888s	previously to this year last tournament
4890s	19 and that is the removal of direct
4893s	entry buy-ins so previously in Alliance
4896s	tournament uh the you know the number of
4899s	direct invites which usually went to
4901s	captains this year also they went to
4902s	teams directly so truth on the light
4905s	wouldn't call Volta and tuskers all but
4908s	direct invites by coming top four last
4909s	year the remaining 28 slots previously
4912s	we would have perhaps had say 16 direct
4915s	buy-ins through a silent Plex auction
4917s	where you would submit a blind bid of
4919s	how many Plex you wanted to pay to get
4921s	into those slots and if you you know
4923s	were one of the top 16 uh rich people
4925s	then you would get in and you would just
4928s	go straight into the main tournament and
4929s	everyone was very happy if you didn't or
4931s	you didn't want to do that then you
4932s	could come in through the feeders
4934s	this year you can no longer do that uh
4937s	flexing the Plex is off the table you
4939s	have to come in through this route so it
4941s	means that you know if you happen to be
4944s	a team of below average Pilots but above
4947s	average wealth you can no longer
4949s	guarantee yourself straight entry into
4951s	the main tournament you have to win at
4955s	least one match to get through perhaps
4956s	more depending if you drop that first
4958s	one so I think this is super exciting I
4960s	think the quality of teams 32 teams that
4964s	have either got topped for last year
4967s	or earn their way into the feeders I
4969s	think it's going to be super exciting we
4971s	sometimes see these hundreds of zero
4972s	matches where one team clearly it just
4974s	is stronger than the other I don't think
4977s	we're going to see as many of those in
4978s	the main tournament all the teams are
4979s	going to have some sort of pedigree
4980s	super exciting change another Cool
4983s	Change Is that previously you would get
4985s	10 skins if you won a match in the main
4988s	tournament this year you get 10 skins if
4990s	you win a match them in tournament and
4992s	if you win a match in the feeders so
4994s	even if you go out having lost uh in the
4997s	feeders but you've won at least one
4998s	match you will still go home with a
5000s	couple of these awesome Alliance
5002s	tournament Victory skins this year of
5004s	course we are sponsored by the galenti
5006s	Federation uh take a look at these they
5008s	are gold they are glorious mystical
5010s	Knights uh wow what do you think of
5013s	these skins I mean I am sad that I won't
5016s	be receiving any this year necessarily
5019s	from any teams because I'm not on any
5020s	teams this year but I think these are
5022s	probably some of the better skins that
5024s	we've seen come out of the alliance
5025s	tournament
5026s	um I'm thinking you know contrasting
5028s	this against the central skins that we
5030s	got where you could barely tell that
5031s	there was a Santa skin on it but you
5033s	paid term bill for the skin package I
5035s	think this one is going to be fairly
5036s	clear that you're rocking a tournament
5039s	skin and it also applies to a wider
5041s	range of ships which I think is really
5043s	cool so definitely something that I hope
5045s	people will look at perhaps investing in
5048s	because it applies to a lot of the Navy
5050s	ships not just the mainline ships there
5052s	you know the two battleships and
5054s	frigates that they usually do
5058s	cash injection for for teams that
5061s	managed to get them you know 10 of these
5062s	it could be worth a good couple of
5064s	billion each so if you win a match yeah
5067s	your team can go home with between 20
5069s	and 30 billion depending uh sometimes
5070s	more sometimes less
5072s	um Less on occasion of Alliance
5074s	tournament 13 when we won skins it was
5076s	the first year I think that happened uh
5077s	Team I was in our captain Nash cadaver
5079s	uh instead of listing them for uh six
5082s	billion a pop he accidentally listed
5084s	them for 600 million a pope and all 10
5085s	sold immediately uh so that was fun uh
5089s	so you know if you do win some of these
5090s	skins make sure when you list those
5092s	Market orders to get your risk you check
5095s	where that decimal point is is super
5096s	important get the right number of zeros
5098s	otherwise you'll be very very sad all
5101s	right let's look forward to our next
5102s	match which is only a couple of minutes
5103s	away and go straight to looking at the
5105s	bands so we're going to see Nvidia
5107s	Gloria comes versus white squall so igc
5111s	Banning out the shack and curse white
5114s	squall Banning out Nighthawk and
5117s	what do you think about these bands
5121s	so I think the Le Shack ban is
5125s	interesting especially when uh paired
5127s	with the curse band I think that the
5129s	shack is something that we've seen a
5130s	fair bit and I think it's also a ship
5132s	that
5133s	dare I say some of the weaker teams will
5136s	lean on because it does a lot of damage
5138s	in two ships if you bring two of them
5140s	and you can build a court around them
5142s	um I don't know whether it's necessarily
5144s	bandworthy because I think that it is
5146s	fairly easy to deal with a Le Shack just
5148s	by bringing some of that utility like
5151s	tracking disruptors and neutralizers
5153s	maybe even ECM or ECM drones to break
5156s	spool I do think it's interesting to see
5158s	the Nighthawk and the bogus band it
5160s	seems like they are looking to prevent
5162s	some of the high range damage bursts
5165s	that you may get with a bar guest comp
5167s	I would say that it's fairly replaceable
5170s	with other ships to be honest I don't
5171s	think it offers much in the way of
5173s	utility outside of a flagship bar guest
5175s	because you're not able to fit the
5177s	office or tackle on it to get that super
5178s	long range scram in this format but it
5182s	still does have like a 19 or 20K scram
5184s	with I think Tech two links and heat so
5189s	it may still be fairly useful at
5191s	screening for itself and then I hook his
5193s	the standard anti-dps band basically
5196s	because it feels the same role as the
5198s	sleptner does but it does it a little
5199s	bit better with higher damage and a
5201s	better tank
5203s	awesome thank you now it's time to head
5205s	over to the arena for this match between
5207s	Nvidia Glory comes and white squall and
5210s	I'm looking at what's on grid and this
5212s	should be an interesting one so let's
5214s	head straight over to the arena with
5215s	Mark resurrectus and fear Viner
5219s	foreign
5232s	a nightmare and a mercario and only six
5237s	Pilots
5238s	hmm
5240s	it's not Choice sphere I gotta be honest
5241s	with you
5243s	I
5244s	this is uh this is gonna be quite the
5247s	beat down because it's uh if if I if I
5251s	know my team comps correctly this
5254s	appears to be Shield Rush uh from white
5257s	squall although I have a hugin instead
5260s	of uh instead of a
5262s	instead of a Loki which is an
5264s	interesting choice maybe it's Shield
5266s	kite I didn't take a look at the guns
5268s	but it's a slot in there it has to be a
5269s	rock right I do think it's right I do
5272s	think it might be I'm pretty sure it's
5274s	an already slept near I think this is oh
5276s	my God
5278s	I I can't know no why what already slept
5282s	near what year is this I might be wrong
5285s	I'm but I'm I I'm I'm looking I'm doing
5288s	a real good inspection on these guns
5290s	what no come on come on man I mean I'm
5294s	just I'm just saying it is what it is
5297s	you know what I mean brother
5299s	all right listen it's going to get weird
5301s	it's gonna get where's match five of the
5304s	at feeders we have a six-man team versus
5306s	a 10-man team we do have a material on
5308s	the grid in the year of Our Lord 2023
5311s	magnificent
5313s	honestly honestly if igc wins with this
5317s	material like it'll be the most
5319s	impressive win ever not because they're
5321s	winning six men to what sorry to ten but
5325s	because they have a material on their
5327s	team and this is not a ship you ever see
5329s	in the at ever it is interesting I mean
5333s	like I'm looking at both these teams
5335s	white white squall has you know a pretty
5338s	standard Affair but look white squall
5340s	now realizing the position that they're
5342s	in those throwing those they're
5343s	thrashing oh yeah they're absolutely
5345s	gonna Rush well I say that but then
5347s	they're like I don't know and they're a
5350s	little hesitant a little shy of this
5351s	team from white squall not quite willing
5353s	to commit all the way across the Grid at
5355s	the same time the team from Nvidia
5358s	Gloria comes just kind of hanging out
5360s	back here just kind of you know feeling
5362s	that little Waters just trying to get to
5364s	know them a little bit better
5365s	so so other ships that we don't normally
5367s	see other than the hugen which both
5369s	teams have brought is the Basilisk solo
5372s	basilisk in the at what is this yeah
5376s	very strange Choice very interesting
5378s	choice but so is bringing six pilots in
5380s	a material so you know listen we're
5383s	we're it's this is like jazz baby we're
5385s	just it's all about the song all about
5387s	the notes you don't play you know what I
5388s	mean I'm very interested to see how this
5390s	plays out but right now there's not a
5391s	whole lot going on just a little bit uh
5393s	just a little bit of feeling here
5395s	feeling there testing the waters looks
5397s	like the uh Nvidia Gloria come scene
5399s	will push a little bit on the hugin I
5401s	expect that hugin will have not too much
5403s	trouble dealing with that
5404s	yeah there was a little bit of hugin on
5407s	hugin web action now there's some hugin
5409s	on hugin paint action absolutely hugin
5412s	on stork but uh either way oh no
5415s	interesting nightmare
5417s	uh way too far forward what are you
5420s	doing my man this is a full commitment
5423s	now from white squall on to the Basilisk
5427s	actually of Jacob Preble and not even
5429s	this nightmare uh as the Basilisk had
5432s	been uh webbed down by this hugin oh my
5436s	almost all the way in to low uh shield
5440s	and in towards armor uh I might want to
5442s	let's talk a little bit about this
5444s	basilisk pick because we don't really
5446s	see this a lot in a t why don't we see
5448s	the Basilisk in an at other than you
5450s	know the commentator from YouTube well
5453s	I'll tell you what if you're slow as
5455s	hell uh it's just it does not really fit
5457s	well I mean this is like this is this
5460s	ostensibly looks like a shield kite comp
5463s	kind of but maybe going down a rum uh
5467s	get drain though yeah I mean if you
5469s	trade an exit Navy for the only one of
5471s	six ships which happens to be their
5472s	lodgy I say it's a pretty decent trade
5474s	yeah another on to Jack Oldman and the
5476s	hugun so working low end up from white
5481s	squall but all these ships are worth a
5483s	lot of points or a lot of tech two ships
5485s	now they're onto the stork out of the
5486s	hugin absolutely melts uh REM great
5489s	gidrine is still alive and down goes the
5493s	stork so no one has died from white
5494s	squall quite yet
5496s	and they now have a Claremore a
5499s	nightmare and I still can't believe it a
5501s	material for my GC but it is melting
5504s	right now under these medium guns yeah
5507s	large guns from the tornado
5509s	you know sometimes you just go into
5512s	these things and you're really just
5513s	there to have a good time you know what
5514s	I mean and and this nightmare of Juan
5516s	Madness is having a good time he's
5518s	mixing it up he's jiving he's having you
5521s	know he's living his best life right in
5523s	the middle of their Fleet he was going
5524s	after the exec Navy of Rim get dreamed
5526s	for a second uh but at the same time his
5528s	good friend Alex cardan not having as
5531s	good a time very sad situation back
5533s	there will die quickly uh because he has
5536s	no lodgy and also he's in material
5539s	ha
5541s	pretty tanky ship as like a fleet ship
5544s	or even as like a small gang like you
5547s	you know you can go with like AC Max
5550s	Zoom past people because you're really
5552s	fast yeah you know it's it's kind of fun
5554s	tournament setups though we'd never see
5557s	the material just because of the pirate
5559s	battleships it has the worst bonuses for
5563s	at typically if you pick a pirate
5565s	battleship in at you need a utility uh
5568s	bonus to actually make it worthwhile
5570s	that's why they say The Vindicator
5571s	that's why in years past we've seen the
5574s	rattlesnake and the balgorn right uh
5577s	nightmare absolutely getting melted
5578s	right now uh that's another one we don't
5580s	see a whole lot of but we see more often
5582s	just because it has the tracking bonus
5584s	yeah but either way the sex act Navy
5586s	will stay alive just barely maybe if
5589s	Claymore gets on top of them he'll go
5591s	down but it doesn't look like it also
5593s	Shield Ox Zack navies uh this is
5595s	something we saw a little bit yeah this
5597s	is something we saw a little bit in the
5598s	last tournament but it's not something
5600s	you typically associate with that ship
5603s	as this Claymore is about to go down
5604s	it's going to be a perfect 100-0 for
5607s	white squall as soon as the Claymore
5609s	Falls and probably the weirdest matchup
5611s	of at I have ever commentated yeah very
5615s	strange situation you know I'm sure that
5617s	our our broadcast team back in the booth
5619s	is absolutely uh in a dead panic because
5622s	I'm sure half of them are still in the
5623s	bathroom not expecting that one to go uh
5626s	about three minutes long but you know
5628s	what as 18 19 things are gonna get weird
5631s	we headed back to the desk thank you so
5633s	much we'll see you at the next one
5637s	guys stop being casual they're really
5640s	bad we should not lose anybody to this
5642s	warp off warp off take the fleet warp
5644s	everybody warp off this is really really
5646s	bad execution I'm very disappointed
5651s	another great haul back from Omar damn
5655s	I'm thirsty
5657s	[Music]
5660s	that hits the spot
5662s	[Music]
5673s	Yeah we actually lost a bet as CCP
5676s	collectively so that's why that Alliance
5679s	logo is in the game of course you can
5681s	change your alliance by leaving but that
5682s	would be kind of a jerk move oh you
5685s	don't like it now it's Lego sucks I'm
5687s	gonna go join
5697s	foreign
5702s	[Music]
5705s	there with a win and end we will see
5708s	them in Alliance tournament 19 later on
5710s	this year igc we will see more of them
5713s	uh they are they lost their first match
5715s	they will be back uh they brought one of
5718s	the more unique comps that we've seen
5720s	thus far in uh the last tournament
5722s	feeders uh but but I always say this
5726s	when we see teams bring an on-demand
5728s	comp we saw a tester eleven with nine we
5730s	saw igc just do it with six uh it's so
5733s	easy for teams who can't bring like the
5736s	whole 10 to just throw in the towel and
5738s	not even bother turning up uh we saw a
5741s	couple of teams Singularity Syndicate
5742s	for example and uh Prismatic Legion just
5745s	pulled out completely I would much
5748s	rather see an entertaining match from a
5750s	team even if you can't field all 10 it's
5753s	you know they've took the time out of
5754s	their day to come along and at least
5755s	give it a give it a solid shot and I was
5757s	I was rooting for that executive Navy
5760s	issue I was watching it drop six percent
5761s	structure I was like come on baby but
5764s	unfortunately
5766s	which is uh you know 407 igc was a it
5770s	was a valiant effort right with sex
5772s	Pilots now mystical might
5775s	um
5776s	it would seem like coming undermined it
5778s	doesn't seem like it would be that bad
5779s	really because
5781s	um you know you can bring more big ships
5783s	right so why did we not see more teams
5787s	take less Pilots
5791s	like you said it doesn't seem
5793s	necessarily that bad when you first
5796s	think about how you would distribute uh
5798s	distribute sorry your points across
5800s	fewer fewer Pilots right fewer people
5803s	means you can put more points into each
5805s	pilot
5806s	um what it doesn't do is allow you to
5808s	round out a comp
5810s	so while you can put more people into
5812s	bigger ships
5814s	what you're doing is you're sacrificing
5816s	your ability to go out and Tackle you're
5818s	sacrificing your ability to have you War
5822s	um and you're sacrificing
5824s	um the need for the enemy Fleet to
5827s	actually spread the evil that it has on
5829s	more pilots so they can focus more of
5831s	their efforts into the few Pilots that
5833s	you do have so if we had seen for
5835s	example a tracking disrupter or a couple
5838s	tracking disruptors in that previous
5840s	match against the nightmare in the
5842s	material there would have been less need
5844s	for them to spread those tracking
5846s	disruptors across any other ship so they
5847s	could focus all of their efforts into
5849s	those two which means that they are even
5851s	more impacted by
5854s	um hostile War coming in towards them I
5857s	would also say that
5858s	having fewer Pilots means that you're
5860s	putting more pressure on it the few
5862s	Pilots that you do have so you're
5864s	expecting them to fulfill more roles
5866s	you're expecting them to
5869s	um catch more things on grid really when
5871s	you have more people you're able to
5873s	think about and segment out different
5874s	parts of the grid so someone who's
5877s	responsible for the tackle Wing can
5878s	focus solely on that and help coordinate
5881s	efforts whereas if you have fewer people
5883s	then you have maybe one person focusing
5886s	all of the efforts into tackle which
5887s	means that mistakes are easier to come
5889s	by and they'll happen more frequently
5891s	and that will also contribute to your
5893s	team falling apart
5894s	and one of the things I wanted to pick
5896s	up on there is uh you mentioned that
5898s	it's more easy for the other team to
5899s	focus uh e more onto onto your ships you
5903s	have less other than there's less
5904s	targets for them to spread it across
5906s	um apparently
5908s	um so weapon disruption is something
5910s	that is pretty common uh and it's
5913s	basically you normally maybe you're
5914s	tracking maybe you're shooting in range
5916s	and it's super easy to hit something and
5917s	an enemy applies either uh tracking
5920s	disruption or guidance disruption from
5921s	missiles and that can do things like
5923s	reduce the range that you're able to
5925s	apply to it can make your turret
5927s	essentially turn slower by reducing your
5928s	tracking speed itself and then take what
5931s	is on paper a very high amount of DPS
5934s	being applied to a certain Target and
5935s	significantly significantly reduce it
5937s	when you have less of these uh less
5940s	ships like full stop and if the other
5943s	team has multiple uh weapon disrupting
5945s	ships then they can start stacking these
5948s	on you now there is a certain amount of
5949s	stacking penalties it doesn't just you
5951s	know to her Air Track disruption module
5954s	on you isn't the same as you know it's
5957s	not 200 is always going to stack to
5959s	certain uh reduction every single time
5962s	but if you have less targets like you're
5965s	going to just slap them all onto the uh
5967s	the important ships and more that we saw
5970s	igc bringing two not common ships in the
5973s	alliance tournament a nightmare and a
5974s	mercario
5976s	um what they're pretty good chips on TQ
5978s	how can we not see them more often on on
5980s	the tournament
5982s	yeah um like you said uh these are ships
5985s	that on Tranquility in a fleet setting
5988s	are you know very good when you have a
5990s	lot of them you can just kind of throw
5992s	them at things and they have a lot of
5993s	tank unfortunately
5996s	um you have to think about what kind of
5999s	utility a nightmare brings uh in these
6003s	sort of setups and for how many points
6005s	they cost and
6007s	by and large teams have just kind of
6009s	realized that they're not very good for
6012s	how many points it cost like a Macario
6015s	is still going to cost you 20 something
6017s	points but it doesn't do that much it
6020s	has a fall off bonus right it doesn't
6022s	have the bonus of like a Vindicator
6024s	would have where it's like oh I have a
6026s	90 web that means I can lock something
6028s	down and it's never ever moving it's
6031s	just about what you get for those points
6033s	and how you apply them and unfortunately
6035s	certain ships just really aren't there
6038s	for the value
6040s	yeah um and one final thing on that
6042s	match
6043s	um it's so common we see an Enderman
6045s	comp that it doesn't actually meet the
6047s	100 points so kudos to uh IDC there for
6051s	actually managing to use the full
6053s	hundred points with with sex Pilots uh
6056s	the reason that's important is any point
6057s	you don't field essentially are
6059s	automatically given to the other team
6061s	before the match even starts so you'll
6063s	know the score will be zero to zero uh
6065s	if you bring say like 95 points another
6067s	team will start with a five point
6069s	Advantage being that even if no one
6071s	kills anything you will still lose
6073s	because you are five points down so
6075s	getting that full 100 points out of six
6078s	ships actually you know pretty pretty
6081s	clever
6082s	um so let's look at our our next match
6085s	now so we're going to see Rusty Hyena's
6088s	client go up against whole control so
6090s	again we are still in the very much in
6092s	the win and in
6093s	um moderator uh Russia newsline we've
6096s	seen them a few times before uh do you
6099s	know much about them
6101s	uh I would have to
6103s	recall I believe that they made it
6106s	actually through feeders last year into
6108s	the main event and
6112s	they managed to lose to Temples calcif
6115s	after fighting their mimitar Brethren
6118s	and Alexis and Atari and then uh they
6122s	got knocked out by Rook Capell so they
6124s	have made top 24 in the past but they've
6127s	struggled against uh what is very
6129s	unfortunate uh draft in the years past
6132s	but on the whole
6133s	um you know if you were strong enough to
6135s	get out of last year's feeder uh there's
6137s	a pretty good chance that you will be
6139s	able to do the same this time
6141s	yeah I have I have Recollections as well
6143s	of Russia Hyena's Clan doing pretty
6145s	solid in some of the the smaller player
6147s	run tournaments things like the anger
6149s	games uh the event T Series I'm sure
6151s	they were run back then as well and
6153s	they're going up against hold control
6155s	um one of the the Wormhole groups
6156s	mystical my uh tell us a little bit
6158s	about hole control yep they are
6160s	definitely one of the Wormhole groups
6163s	um so I decided to to ask Mark a few
6166s	questions as the CSM member for worm
6169s	haulers
6170s	um I wanted to get his feedback on whole
6171s	control and hit their chances in the
6173s	tournament really
6175s	um to better understand who I'm going to
6177s	put my points on
6178s	um in the in the Taylor show that we had
6183s	um I believe that they were ranked
6186s	sorry you can't see it but Marcus
6188s	spamming no continuously
6191s	um he did pick them fifth I think that's
6193s	public information everybody knows that
6195s	hog control were picked fifth
6197s	um and we're a nice shade of yellow on
6200s	the spreadsheet
6202s	um
6203s	I think that they might struggle a
6205s	little bit in the alliance tournament
6207s	but I am hopeful that Mark will have
6211s	another Wormhole will win against Frosty
6213s	owners I think I mean either way a
6215s	wormholder team wins right because Rusty
6217s	hyenas are also one haulers sir
6219s	um he really can't lose
6222s	awesome thank you uh for that insightful
6224s	analysis courtesy of resurrect is one
6227s	more CSM candidate
6229s	um let's take a look at the bands now
6230s	for for this matchup between Mercedes
6232s	Clan and Hall control so Russia hyena is
6235s	Banning out the Armageddon Navy issue
6237s	and the Nighthawk and Hall control bang
6240s	out the Scimitar and the Loki another
6242s	Loki ban uh moderator thoughts on these
6244s	bands here
6246s	so just looking at the bands
6249s	um Rusty Hein is not wanting to deal
6251s	with that Rush setup
6254s	um and whole control not wanting to deal
6256s	with kind of a long-range control uh
6259s	that the Loki could bring in a shield
6260s	comp not wanting to deal with getting
6262s	kited and Armageddon Navy issue is not a
6265s	bad ban if you just don't want to deal
6267s	with a lot of the heavy uh brawling
6269s	setups they've been buffed in the last
6271s	couple years and they're very good for
6273s	the points that they bring
6276s	awesome and Misty any further thoughts
6278s	here in these these bands
6280s	I mean again the Nighthawk one I think
6282s	is pretty standard at this point the
6283s	Armageddon Navy one is fairly
6285s	interesting
6286s	um I don't think it's necessarily the
6287s	strongest Battleship that you can go up
6290s	against
6292s	um I I think that you maybe value some
6294s	other ships more with your Banning
6296s	strategy I don't think the Armageddon
6298s	Navy does anything that cannot be
6300s	replaced by another battleship is what
6301s	I'm trying to say
6303s	um so it's a curious choice I do wonder
6306s	if this feeds into perhaps some of the
6308s	practices that they've done and there's
6309s	merely a reflection of some of the ships
6311s	that they have had issues against and
6313s	less
6314s	you know a thought about what their
6317s	opponent might actually bring in this in
6319s	this matchup
6321s	yeah so something will be interesting to
6323s	see uh how this matchup goes
6325s	um when and in for receiving a clan or
6327s	whole control uh let's have a look at
6329s	what twitch chat is thinking so whole
6331s	control is currently the favorites but
6333s	honestly not by that much
6336s	um it's only only maybe like a couple
6338s	hundred thousand votes more 770
6341s	000 to 520 is certainly one of the
6343s	closer ones we've had today
6345s	um so you know if this is one of your
6347s	teams uh you know put your money where
6349s	your mouth is and pop those points on
6350s	those teams uh and you could win some
6352s	pretty pretty cool prizes I'm just
6355s	looking at what's landing on field now I
6356s	think we are in for an interesting
6358s	matchup
6360s	um moderator I'm going to come to you
6361s	for some predictions here in this match
6365s	uh man I really really am afraid to
6369s	predict anything it's going to be an
6371s	absolutely wild match but I'm happy I
6374s	hope it's not whole control just so that
6376s	Mark resurrected resurrect this has to
6378s	sophomore more
6380s	do you do you share that same shouting
6382s	Freud or are you going for a more more
6385s	intellectual decision yeah I'm I'm gonna
6387s	lean towards whole control for now I I
6391s	expect tall control will win but I'm
6394s	hoping that they don't so I can leak all
6396s	of the logs that Marcus sent me about
6397s	all control afterwards
6400s	okay so well it's time to find out uh so
6403s	let's head off to the arena for
6405s	rathagonist Clan versus Hulk control
6407s	with your casters the Basilisk and their
6409s	own all right
6415s	welcome back to the arena guys we are in
6418s	a battle of wormholes C4 enjoy us for us
6421s	the hyenas versus uh C5 fans hold
6424s	control and uh we've got 22 interesting
6427s	comps over here buzzer would you care to
6429s	walk us through them yeah so it looks
6431s	like both teams have opted for this
6432s	fairly similar Shield Rush here I
6433s	haven't had a chance to look at the guns
6435s	just yet but just looking at the comps I
6436s	imagine they are mostly going to be
6438s	hands-fitted it does seem hands on one
6439s	side here I've yet checked the other
6441s	side but just my general Vibe is that
6442s	these two teams are going to be pushing
6443s	pretty heavily into each other all
6444s	controller hold hands that is right
6447s	um
6449s	alar is already eating in try and catch
6453s	something however the hyena is uh
6456s	paying attention and he's um and they're
6460s	not moving Chrome in the cycling Fleet
6461s	is just sat stationary here he needs to
6462s	get moving he's 20 seconds 20 seconds
6465s	he's got these cruises bearing and the
6468s	Australian Navy of table caracal navies
6470s	are just charging in here and trying to
6471s	grab what they can
6473s	um the old spray is taking a lot of
6474s	damage on the back end there's a huge
6476s	form of drones following that Crow as
6477s	well but I'm not sure that's really
6478s	necessary the crow not really going
6480s	aggressive tackling here Zed motorcycles
6482s	has tackled he's not going anywhere and
6484s	he's just evaporates probably in the
6486s	buffer on it but they trade it for the
6487s	Osprey so it's not so bad still however
6490s	um let's look at any of those Cruisers
6492s	uh Battlegrounds are actually tackled uh
6493s	Chrome is tackled man you have to start
6496s	moving if you want to kite 15 seconds is
6498s	not enough and uh the whole team is
6500s	sitting on however they are also
6501s	shooting Cold by uh Rogers in the car
6504s	called Navy so he's gonna go down as
6506s	well hyena is dying pretty quickly those
6509s	currencies and molasses at this point
6510s	are kind of um redundant we we lost one
6514s	hand boat on the side of Hull control
6516s	and um however the Cyclone on the rusty
6519s	hyena side is going down so this trade
6521s	is not so even
6522s	yeah I think from this point on
6524s	obviously when both lodges are dead it's
6525s	just going to devolve into a DPS race
6526s	and both teams are just going to be
6527s	trying to call the right primaries make
6529s	sure they can clear as much DPS as
6530s	possible and win that race at the moment
6531s	I think whole control might be winning
6533s	it of course this year there was their
6535s	roster is bolstered by the numbers of
6536s	tech evil one obviously a very
6537s	experienced pilot coming from the
6538s	tuskers
6539s	um instead joining whole control this
6541s	year and from my experience scrimming
6543s	like my own my own experience with uh
6545s	hiddenly Village this year having
6547s	someone on the team because we've picked
6548s	up virion Stone shell respectively FC
6550s	having someone on the team who's been
6552s	through a tournament cycle who you know
6553s	has has permitted themselves heavily to
6555s	it before can be really really big asset
6557s	for a team to pick up so hopefully that
6559s	table can you know have a big impact
6561s	going forward for whole control and it
6563s	seems like they are on the upper foot in
6564s	this match obviously he is going to have
6566s	experience in these 10 situations maybe
6567s	if someone says you know we need to
6568s	shoot something that's that he thinks is
6570s	the wrong target maybe he can step in
6572s	and say actually in this situation
6573s	should be something else maybe you know
6575s	he's he's actually just a line member
6577s	and he's not calling anything at all who
6578s	can possibly know um but for the moment
6580s	they do seem to be pretty on target with
6581s	their target pool and taking out the
6582s	fleet Cyclones those things absolutely
6584s	pump damage at the same time though
6586s	um now that we are past the initial
6588s	scramble the kiting team if they are
6589s	fast enough they can maybe try and uh
6592s	start applying DPS while the ham team is
6595s	bleeding on we've got the CFI running
6597s	for the tournament micro jump drive but
6599s	I don't think he's going to turn around
6600s	in time to not boundary and not get
6603s	scrammed by this screeching horde of the
6605s	cruises here and there we go there is a
6607s	web effect on them already they lose the
6609s	character Navy but there is going to be
6610s	a couple of guys to take over the
6612s	webbing beauty of him too
6613s	is burning he's 100 kilometers from the
6615s	arena center so it's getting a bit close
6617s	to the arena I think he might have broke
6619s	he's not read anywhere just yep
6621s	obviously he needs to turn he's going up
6623s	so I don't think he's going straight out
6624s	of the Arena he has managed to escape
6625s	and as you say this kite and Compass
6626s	they can get away at the moment it does
6627s	seem like the Drakes and Drake navies
6629s	are just suffering from a lack of speed
6631s	here obviously the author is faster Oz
6633s	Pro Navy very very quick cycling Fleet
6635s	very quick so it's actually proving to
6636s	be quite difficult for these handbrakes
6638s	to get on top of anything and karab is
6639s	slowly going downhill I would not also
6642s	put the drones on the models at this
6643s	point honestly it's a kind of a waste of
6645s	a DPS you can try to bleed through uh
6648s	the shields of cyclones or the orifice
6650s	or anything really
6652s	um this is like 100 DPS per flight so
6655s	it's when you when you add up six ships
6657s	it's not nothing uh the Drake Navy of
6659s	Carib is going down slowly but surely so
6662s	Hall control is going to lose one Drake
6663s	however Cyclone is again webbed I think
6666s	there I don't see the web effect again
6668s	so is he Breaking Free
6670s	um there's only a NOS effect on him
6672s	I think I think the capacitor at this at
6675s	this point can be difficult for some of
6677s	these Cruisers the austriannavian
6678s	character maybe in particular when you
6679s	burn around so long with the microorbe
6680s	drive on as they have been doing trying
6682s	to chase these guys you can end up
6684s	pretty starved on cap here and then
6685s	obviously in a hand boat when you've
6687s	only got like 20 kilometers 30
6688s	kilometers range it can be very
6689s	difficult to actually do much of
6690s	anything if you don't stop in a
6691s	reasonable position Nessa does seem to
6693s	be going down through Shields here but
6695s	they're trading for the Osprey Navy
6697s	um maybe he can go maybe he can go if
6700s	the cable dies because uh the cable is
6701s	only holding the uh the web using his
6704s	gnosis right but after that there is
6706s	nothing else there is another Drake
6707s	trying to box in the Cyclone but uh I
6711s	don't know if he will be in time those
6713s	drones now they might finish off the
6715s	Cyclone even if he tries to burn away
6716s	he's picking up speed I'm not sure if
6718s	it's going to be uh fast enough though
6720s	yeah I haven't said that three more
6722s	seconds he could have he could have had
6724s	enough residual Health here to get away
6725s	but have a look at this place I'm
6727s	holding him the Cyclone is taking
6728s	absolutely chunks here he's just getting
6730s	melted through Cyclone Fleet goes into
6732s	hell all Cyclone is still boosting with
6734s	his xlasb but he's getting absolutely
6735s	melted into armor I'm not sure who's
6737s	going to die first but it's still it's
6738s	going to be two Drakes against a drank
6740s	Navy and an authoris
6742s	however arrested hyenas they do have the
6744s	advantage even though they have less ehp
6746s	and less points as you mentioned the cup
6748s	on uh caracal Navy is probably spent at
6750s	this time the Drake regular Attack One
6752s	Drake and Drake Navy issue are also
6754s	chasing the the entire kiting team if
6757s	they don't opt to use an mjd Beacon they
6759s	might have really hard time chasing and
6761s	arthrus Osprey Navy that they can just
6763s	stop burning at some point when they're
6765s	uncomfortable range and then just keep
6767s	regioning
6770s	yeah and this Cyclone Fleet is somehow
6772s	still living I need to run DPS on him
6776s	so he's he's trying his hardest that he
6778s	is going to be the swan blue drone
6780s	slowly finishing off the acolytes do
6781s	take him down so now we're into this 3v3
6783s	situation but I think the rusty hyenas
6785s	team they are in a better position here
6787s	they have a little bit of range and as
6789s	we said the capacitor is probably pretty
6790s	empty the Drake and the Drake Navy is
6792s	sure are quite slow the author of
6793s	nonspreneur issue going to be very
6795s	difficult to catch here
6797s	um four minutes so if they keep on
6799s	running then um and the reasoning cup
6801s	utilizing mjd beacons they may be able
6803s	to uh uh just kite them forever
6807s	um the caracal Navy already a lot of
6809s	them have a shield
6810s	um it's an interesting situation
6812s	actually because
6814s	um it seems like whole control uh they
6816s	banned Loki and um seeing them seeing
6820s	the Nighthawk band as well they were
6821s	like cool cool bands bro I'm gonna look
6823s	at this stuff though and I brought the
6824s	ham rush anyways
6826s	um however uh they just didn't manage to
6829s	uh secure enough targets quickly enough
6831s	to like just pin them down and then stop
6833s	pounding on them
6835s	from how slow the Drake and the Drake
6837s	Navy issue are compared to the cycling
6839s	Fleet I think that's cycling Fleet of
6841s	um what was the name reset was able to
6842s	buy so much time burning away and it
6844s	took so long for them all to get on top
6846s	of him and by the time they were over
6847s	there of course they're all out of cap
6848s	and they need to burn the other way to
6850s	deal with what's left on the rusty
6851s	highness team and of course fighting
6852s	away the other side of the Arena so I
6855s	think both teams they did correct Choice
6856s	by utilizing four Cruisers slots to
6858s	abuse maximum amount of ehp and DPS per
6862s	slot Navy cruises are very Point
6864s	efficient uh so I I think like if you're
6867s	trying to kite over uh or ham this is
6870s	the optimal way to build the comp
6871s	however
6873s	they fumbled I think on the whole
6875s	control side is choosing Drake navies
6877s	and just take one Drake Over a cyclone
6880s	Fleet Cyclone I think is much better of
6882s	a ship honestly it might have my one
6885s	less uh mid-slot but brings two links
6887s	it's faster pumps the same DPS so I
6890s	don't know if they'll have played
6891s	anything that it would have been easier
6892s	for them to control and secure targets
6895s	or for hand pounding but uh
6898s	it's there yeah for sure I think the
6901s	police Cyclone's insane the nine percent
6903s	rate of fire bonus on the hull is just
6905s	incredible for the DPS it can pump out
6906s	and that is actually one of the ships I
6908s	think we're bringing two of them is uh
6910s	totally viable it just has so much DPS
6912s	it's got these links
6914s	so you don't have to lose anything yeah
6915s	exactly so really really great choice of
6917s	ship there
6919s	um and it is I think gonna come down to
6920s	a point situation here but we are seeing
6922s	the Drake of Hull control
6924s	um going down and I think that will
6926s	solidify the win for Rusty hyenas I
6928s	don't see a way back in this for them
6930s	unless the Drake can live and they can
6932s	somehow kill off the needles pray the
6933s	authorous but they're just so far away
6935s	from these two battle Cruisers that
6936s	there's not really MGD down towards the
6938s	Drake Navy of Rusty hyena so maybe he
6940s	will be able to catch that but I'm I'm
6942s	not sure if this is too late at this
6945s	point and he bumped a little bit he's
6947s	bumping off the tournament begin I think
6948s	oh this is painful
6950s	yeah they all both these strikes all sat
6952s	on mjd beacons on opposite corners of
6954s	theater you know so you can see here but
6955s	I mean that the um Rusty hyenas Clan
6958s	team are choosing to burn in towards
6959s	humpback ostagia on one of these beacons
6961s	and maybe he's gonna mjd somewhere but
6963s	eventually it doesn't seem like there's
6965s	many options for him here not really as
6967s	long as you keep like around 60
6968s	kilometers away and he initiates over
6970s	here he's going towards the next Beacon
6972s	so he's trying to live
6974s	and he lands pretty decent position next
6977s	to the another Beacon but what the the
6979s	Cruisers of Rusty highness can do is
6981s	just burn in and start applying damage
6982s	again so there isn't really anything
6984s	that he can um do to
6986s	help him team uh delay the defeat I
6988s	think it's sealed at this point buzzer
6990s	yeah and we also see these swarm of bots
6992s	Following over as well very annoying to
6993s	deal with drone control range can always
6995s	be uh you know a pesky mechanic
6997s	sometimes you know drones they're
6999s	supposed to stop shooting at 60
7000s	kilometers and then you burn off and
7002s	they keep following you and they keep
7003s	following you and they keep following
7004s	you and you're 120 kilometers away from
7006s	the nearest ship and they keep following
7007s	you and you just can't stop them and
7009s	they're slowly killing you and there is
7010s	nothing you can really do about it and I
7012s	don't think it's gonna be enough to kill
7013s	off Humper castosha but
7015s	great
7019s	the drones like even the swarm of
7021s	acolytes and infiltracers also following
7023s	that
7024s	um Cyclone Fleet he was so fast and do
7026s	the due to the Drone mechanics they were
7029s	not always shooting so they were
7030s	shooting resetting catching up shooting
7031s	resetting catching up and um yeah it's
7034s	really funky uh the drones if you are
7036s	not using like a drone bonus ship but at
7038s	the same time I don't think they should
7039s	have put them on them earlier maybe he
7040s	would have died faster instead of
7041s	killing molasses that are pretty much
7043s	meaningless
7045s	dies though so
7047s	yeah and in the end it is a points
7049s	victory for Rusty hyenas Clan 84 to 69
7051s	but a very close match up there and two
7053s	very similar comps so it's interesting
7055s	to see those two teams slightly
7056s	different takes on it their ideas on how
7057s	they think it should be executed and you
7059s	know rusty iron is coming out on top of
7060s	the police Cyclones there so let's send
7062s	it back to the desk for a bit more
7063s	analysis on that one
7067s	[Music]
7077s	[Music]
7096s	[Music]
7119s	thank you
7125s	bye now
7128s	[Music]
7142s	Rusty Hyena's Clan securing themselves a
7144s	spot in the last tournament 19 with that
7146s	pretty commanding Victory overhaul
7149s	control to where indeed controlled and
7152s	unfortunately could not pull it back in
7154s	this particular instance uh mystical
7157s	might at the start of that match we saw
7159s	Russell Hayden's Clan kind of at the
7162s	pack of foot like they they were you
7164s	know sitting still they they weren't
7166s	really positioning very well a couple of
7168s	early uh headshots from hold control
7171s	made it look like whole control was
7172s	going to be in a much more commanding
7175s	position than the ended up uh you know
7177s	resulting in where did that all go wrong
7180s	yeah I think a lot of us were surprised
7183s	with how Hull control took kind of
7185s	charge of the match towards the
7187s	beginning
7188s	um most of will probably mark
7189s	resurrecters because he doubted whole
7191s	control so much and you know at the
7194s	beginning of the match I assume that
7196s	whole control we're gonna win
7197s	um they managed to burn most of their
7199s	core into the rusty hyenas team
7202s	um I assumed that they were going to
7203s	spread tackle across the um the battle
7206s	cruisers on the whole control sorry uh I
7211s	assumed whole control were going to
7212s	spread their tackle across the battle
7213s	cruises of the rusty hyenas team and
7216s	which they failed to do they instead let
7217s	the their entire Core Go basically in
7220s	favor of killing the basilar switches a
7222s	fair deal and it basically evaporated it
7224s	died immediately
7226s	um but what they did was sacrifice their
7228s	opportunity to really pin down the
7230s	kiting ships of race the hyenas which
7232s	meant that they had to spend the rest of
7234s	the match trying to catch up the ships
7235s	that were just faster than and had more
7238s	range than them and that eventually led
7240s	to the collapse of their their ability
7242s	to win their match
7244s	one of the things that we saw that
7245s	differed between those two teams is
7247s	rustica's Clan they chose to spend 16
7250s	points and bring a basilisk whereas
7252s	whole control they spent just nine and
7254s	run Osprey the tech one version uh why
7258s	would my attention do that
7260s	yeah so we see that kind of being like
7262s	the trade-off guys do you spend seven
7264s	more points on a Tech Two laundry and
7267s	get more tank and more rep power or do
7270s	you choose to spend that seven other
7272s	points between the two of those ships on
7275s	something like more powerful
7278s	um frigates you know going from a tech
7280s	one forget to Tech Two do you upgrade
7282s	some of your battle cruises from you
7283s	know uh just tech one to you know
7285s	faction or even pirate uh things like
7288s	that or is kind of the trade-off and
7291s	it seemed like whole control was
7293s	thinking in this matchup hey we're gonna
7295s	put all of these points into making sure
7297s	that we can bring uh you know three
7300s	drinks two of them Navy one regular uh
7303s	cyclone and then they spent a lot of
7305s	points kind of on their mid-end double
7307s	Navy caracal Offspring Scythe
7311s	um kind of wishing maybe they spent a
7313s	little bit less points on that mid side
7315s	and maybe went for like a couple really
7318s	fast frigates that could get on top of
7319s	something or even a t3d
7324s	awesome and Misty one of the things that
7325s	we heard some of the commentators
7326s	talking about during that match was
7329s	um Navy battle coaches being one of the
7330s	more Point efficient choices in the
7332s	tournament and then the decision to
7334s	bring Drake Navy versus the Cyclone
7336s	Fleet what's your thoughts on that
7338s	obviously the commentators were
7339s	certainly uh leading towards cycling
7342s	being a stronger Choice do you agree
7344s	with that
7345s	I think it's a balance of damage speed
7347s	and tank right I think the Drake Navy is
7350s	a little bit slower than the Cyclone
7351s	Fleet
7352s	um depending on the fit that you have
7354s	it's not actually that much slower but
7356s	it's still like to 300 400 meters a
7358s	second slower so over
7361s	a longer period of time that difference
7362s	does kind of add up
7364s	um I guess I would kind of favor the
7367s	Cyclone Fleet in a rush setup because it
7369s	means that you're going to be doing
7370s	damage
7371s	uh sooner and for a longer period of
7373s	time than you might with a drake Navy
7376s	um I think the Drake Navy does more on
7377s	paper damage but you need to factor in
7380s	the travel time of your ship because you
7381s	could you don't really have much travel
7382s	time with your missiles which means that
7385s	the longer you spend burning after a
7386s	ship even if you have higher DPS
7389s	that's more time that you are not
7391s	putting damage into that ship which is
7393s	something that people need to kind of
7394s	factor in there is the added benefit
7396s	however of bringing a full car diary
7398s	lineup which is if you go into an ECM
7401s	setup it's unlikely that they're going
7403s	to have a full rack of cardari jams
7405s	which means that it's harder for the
7407s	Hostile team to jam your entire comp out
7409s	instead they'd have to pick one or two
7411s	ships that they want to focus their
7412s	caldari jams on and then the rest of
7415s	your ships will probably get an
7415s	operational Jam here or there but it's
7418s	not likely to break your lock that often
7420s	so it makes it a lot easier for you to
7422s	focus your damage into a singular Target
7424s	because more of you are able to lock at
7426s	any one at one period in time so there
7429s	are trade-offs to Bringing
7431s	um
7431s	you know the the kaldari Navy upper end
7435s	um but in this case again we saw them
7437s	burn into the middle of the rusty eye in
7439s	his team there's no reason why they
7440s	shouldn't have been able to spread some
7441s	scrams and it wouldn't have mattered if
7443s	they had Cyclone Fleet issues or direct
7445s	navies because Rusty hyenas forgot how
7447s	to double click for a bit so it's really
7450s	irrelevant
7451s	yeah one of the last things I want to
7452s	talk about that match is um we saw at
7456s	the end the whole control team uh the
7458s	two remaining bricks spreading out onto
7459s	the micro jump drive beacons in the
7461s	arena if you've never played in
7463s	tournament match before the arena is 125
7465s	kilometers in radius so 250 kilometers
7468s	across if you cross that to a 125
7470s	kilometer point you will just
7472s	immediately explode there is no if
7473s	there's no but that is it you are done
7475s	uh within the arena there is a cube of
7479s	uh micro jump units that are anchored
7481s	there at 100 kilometers on each side and
7485s	there's also one extra one in the center
7486s	of the Arena itself of course they ping
7489s	you forward 100 kilometers when you
7490s	activate them and you can be bumped with
7493s	them and jump yourself out of the Arena
7495s	if you're not careful also worth noting
7497s	we don't actually allow teams to bring
7500s	uh the command Destroyer micro jump
7502s	field generator because as much as it
7504s	would be Giga hilarious for someone to
7508s	manage to uh mjd Bush the entire enemy
7511s	team out of the Arena
7513s	um or conversely with and just jump
7516s	themselves out with arena with no one
7518s	um it would also be just probably a
7520s	little bit too chaotic so you can bring
7523s	your own local micro jump drives fit
7525s	onto ships that can support them usually
7526s	battleships and battle Cruisers or you
7529s	can use those beacons so sometimes we
7531s	see teams spread out onto the beacons
7533s	when they've lost their logic but
7534s	they're up on points and they just need
7536s	to not die they'll spread out and then
7538s	jump themselves around there when you're
7539s	trying as long as possible uh to prolong
7543s	everything
7544s	all right we have one match before we go
7546s	for a short break and this one should be
7549s	interesting is high SEC minors versus
7551s	templates calcif and the bands for high
7554s	set miners are balgart and Blackbird and
7556s	they're going up against Tempest Castle
7557s	finding out the Le Shack and the bar
7559s	guest uh moderator Vargas ban the shack
7563s	ban thoughts here
7565s	yeah so uh Bargas has been a classic
7569s	band not wanting to deal with kind of
7571s	this utility scrim it brings it has that
7574s	you know bonus to that range uh various
7576s	very powerful rapid heavy missile ship
7579s	uh lach not quite sure why that's banned
7582s	maybe something they've seen in scrims
7584s	um whereas balgorn and Blackbird is just
7587s	very common standard bands but we're
7589s	going to see throughout the prelims here
7591s	awesome well uh let's see uh if these
7594s	bands work out for tempus calcif or if
7596s	asset miners will be the ones that are
7598s	victorious as we head over to the arena
7600s	with the cast to Smart Resurrected
7608s	welcome back everybody it's me Mark and
7610s	with me is fear of course we have high
7612s	SEC miners in red and temples calcif in
7616s	blue we have from the hisek miners team
7619s	double Absolution astar day OG dual exec
7623s	Navy and Omen Navy issue kitsun kiries
7627s	and jackdaw a bit of another one of
7629s	these strong armor comps we've seen so
7631s	much of recently what are we seeing fear
7633s	from our team from temples calcif
7635s	uh it's another pseudo dad setup this
7638s	time they brought up with Jesus though
7640s	so long range scrams as well as uh some
7644s	pretty powerful damps alongside T2
7646s	resists but otherwise it's still
7649s	four medium uh Long Range Guns battle
7653s	Cruisers and then they have an OG for
7656s	logic of an OG Navy and Lucy so plenty
7659s	of damage from both of these teams you
7660s	also see this exact Navy coming in from
7663s	khalsif but they've also got quite a bit
7665s	of control from both setups with the
7667s	lucchesis on one side in the kitchen on
7668s	the other and immediately the kids soon
7670s	gets absolutely destroyed by temples
7673s	calcif yeah you gotta get that
7675s	transversal up fear yeah a lot of long
7677s	range weapons on both these teams uh
7679s	these absolutions both those absolutions
7681s	do have beams the fact was bucket Badger
7685s	also getting just a samote right out the
7688s	gate and for no trade I mean they push
7690s	the Punisher into half armor the high
7693s	signature now they're onto the Gog oh
7694s	man this is this is rough that's a lot
7697s	of damage being applied so quickly and
7698s	no response yet from the theme from high
7700s	stick miners they have to have some way
7702s	to respond to this I I I'm not sure
7704s	what's going on here they're gone for
7706s	the Harvey of auroraqual uh right now I
7710s	think what's interesting is there's a
7711s	bit of a damp war going on but calcifer
7713s	winning it pretty heavily this carries
7715s	has done absolutely nothing while the
7717s	Sleep Jesus is full dams on the mid
7719s	slots no scrams whatsoever and we take a
7721s	look one two three four five ships
7724s	damped out by this uh lachesis with no
7729s	other damp ships on their team it's just
7731s	impossible for high stuck miners to do
7733s	anything they lose their Omen Navy issue
7735s	their carries is also going down pretty
7737s	quickly as well and even though they're
7740s	getting damaged under this heartbringer
7742s	he's gotten OG probably the best T1
7744s	Cruiser lodgy in the game to keep him up
7747s	right now and meanwhile temples calcif
7749s	they're just working bottom up they're
7751s	on to the first eni of lower waffles
7754s	yeah that lakis is absolutely brutal
7756s	against these kind of comps that need to
7758s	be able to uh you know sort you out from
7762s	range
7763s	without being able to lock up you're
7765s	gonna have to dive and none of these
7767s	comps are designed to dive Lawler waffle
7769s	in the exec Navy now breaks I it's just
7772s	it's staggering how much damage they're
7774s	getting out of their I mean a lot of
7777s	damage from the team from Temple's
7778s	Castle but doesn't seem out of the
7780s	ordinary but we're still seeing ships
7781s	just get getting almost nearly volleyed
7784s	through the majority of their armor and
7786s	again here now the second exec Navy
7787s	taking a lot of damage as these
7790s	absolutions are absolutely burning for
7792s	their life trying to find some way to
7794s	get away from this damage but it's just
7795s	too much
7796s	yeah it's just way way way too much
7800s	damage now for high stuck miners to deal
7802s	with especially without any sort of
7804s	logic and while they're all damped out
7806s	and the more ships die the more dams you
7808s	can put on
7810s	everyone else
7811s	this is really the power of the laches
7813s	versus the celestis uh even though
7816s	celestis has better quote unquote better
7818s	damps at longer ranges uh the logistics
7821s	is just such a powerful ship not one we
7824s	see a whole lot of just because of the
7825s	amount of points it takes but we can see
7827s	this is the impact of a single e-war
7830s	ship with five damps on it
7833s	five damps on the switches it's just
7837s	impossible for heisock miners too
7838s	anything really well played from
7840s	templates but I can't help but feel like
7842s	they won this in draft Yeah tables
7844s	Castle needs to be taking different pink
7845s	and out to a bar tonight making sure he
7846s	does not pay for a single drink because
7848s	that one ship not just not to discredit
7851s	any of the work done by any of the rest
7853s	of the team I'm sure they're all great
7854s	Pilots but that one ship being able to
7856s	put such oppressive uh lock range newts
7860s	on our lock range Nerfs rather across
7863s	the entire high-sec minor scene it
7865s	didn't matter you know any kind of of
7867s	range cop was not going to work it would
7870s	have had to have dived early they didn't
7872s	respond to it and now we see the last s
7875s	start go down and that will do it we're
7878s	gonna take a quick break we go back now
7880s	to the desk I don't actually know if
7881s	we're going to the desk we might go back
7882s	to a commercial who knows either way
7884s	we'll see you back next time for the
7886s	next match in today's eater tournament
7894s	thank you
7896s	[Music]
7902s	[Music]
7905s	spark could be anywhere
7910s	[Music]
7934s	[Music]
7940s	did it
7942s	[Music]
7949s	uh welcome back there templates calcif
7951s	showing that high SEC minors they may
7953s	have had their mining permits they
7954s	certainly did not have their PVP permits
7956s	as they get swept 100 to zero in that
7960s	just overwhelming match there uh pretty
7964s	solid performance from templar's calcif
7966s	lots of control mystical might uh that
7969s	the Jesus there just damping damping
7972s	everybody out uh as we look at the The
7974s	Mechanics for damping tell us just what
7977s	happened there for uh High set miners
7980s	yeah absolutely so high SEC mine has
7982s	actually brought a fairly good comp to
7985s	the grid um I actually expected Thai
7987s	minus to be able to win that match
7989s	um but what we saw was that the
7991s	logistics was just fully damp fit with
7993s	armor tank and was able to spread those
7996s	damps across the core of the high SEC
7998s	miners team and when you're using a
8001s	range script in a dampener it's going to
8003s	reduce the ability of the ship being
8006s	affected by The Damp to lock by like 50
8009s	or 60 depending on your bonuses and your
8012s	ewall skills
8014s	um so because there's a number of core
8017s	ships on grid you have to spread those
8018s	damps out but as we saw the template
8021s	calcif team was able to quickly delete
8023s	like three or four ships within the
8025s	first minute of the match which means
8027s	that they can start focusing their damps
8029s	onto a a smaller smaller segment of the
8032s	Isaac miners team so really it's just
8035s	about preventing the high SEC minus team
8037s	from projecting their damage into the
8039s	templar's calcif team templates were
8041s	able to protect their weaker ships like
8043s	the augura and the likesis by by keeping
8046s	them back and we saw that
8049s	High segment is essentially just wasted
8052s	their time shooting at first a Punisher
8053s	and then switching to a Harbinger
8056s	um which they then did not swap off of
8059s	um despite the fact that they were not
8060s	breaking it
8061s	awesome thank you very much for that
8063s	great analysis Mr Gomez we are going to
8065s	go on a short break
8067s	um and we will be back for uh cast about
8070s	versus Exodus in about 30 minutes so uh
8073s	stick around and we will see you then
8077s	welcome back everybody to the
8079s	continuation of Alliance tournament 19
8081s	feeders this is day two of four
8084s	um we have a bunch of matches to go
8085s	today and a whole nother weekend of
8087s	matches to go next weekend to find out
8090s	which 28 teams will secure themselves a
8092s	sport in Alliance tournament 19 proper
8094s	in August already a bunch of teams have
8097s	managed to secure themselves but some
8099s	yesterday a couple more today so far
8101s	we've seen barcode till doomsday white
8103s	squall Rusty Hyena's Clan templates
8106s	calcif all secure themselves spots by
8109s	winning the first match uh in the
8111s	feeders for themselves and going
8113s	straight in the The Losers of those
8114s	matches go into the rest of the bracket
8116s	and they have to win a bunch more before
8118s	they can actually guarantee themselves a
8119s	spot we have two more of these win and
8122s	in matches to go today followed by some
8125s	elimination matches uh teams I've
8127s	already played they have already lost
8128s	they will go up against each other if
8130s	they lose those matches they are out so
8132s	our next match will be cast about versus
8134s	Exodus a match I've been looking forward
8137s	to cast about basically formed from
8139s	people in the caldari I think kalai
8143s	rookie Corp the corpse that you joined
8144s	when you make a new character even if
8146s	you join another Corp and leave you can
8147s	never get back into that Corp so they
8149s	play most of the time on TQ exclusively
8151s	in that Court never leaving which is
8153s	pretty awesome and they tend to put a
8155s	team together let's take a quick moment
8157s	and look at the balance between cast
8159s	about and exodus uh cast about it's
8161s	Banning out the bar guest and the curse
8163s	and exodus batting at the EOS and the
8166s	Nighthawk you might not have joined by
8168s	two new people Blackboard pirate and the
8169s	Basilisk uh Bart tell me about these
8172s	bands
8173s	I think this is one of the first times
8175s	we've seen the EOS get banned we did see
8177s	a team run a drone set up yesterday and
8181s	almost maybe possibly do okay except
8184s	that they like didn't run it correctly
8186s	but it looked like it might have worked
8187s	so
8188s	um Exodus is kind of uh they've been
8190s	doing this for such a long time and
8192s	they've always sort of specialized in
8194s	the Nano gang capabilities that they
8197s	used to be really really well known for
8198s	on TQ we've seen time and time again if
8201s	you're fighting Exodus you have to be
8203s	prepared to fight against kite and uh
8207s	traditionally historically drone setups
8209s	have been pretty strong against kiting
8211s	setups so I could see Exodus saying hey
8213s	like let's get rid of the drones um we
8215s	haven't really seen them a lot on the
8215s	feeders but the feeders is always a
8217s	mixed bag of wonderful and interesting
8219s	comps that are definitely good maybe
8221s	sometimes
8222s	and Baza what do you think about uh
8224s	these bands here any any comments on
8226s	them yeah I I just mirror what BART said
8228s	I think EOS is going to be banned a lot
8230s	more as we go forward into the
8231s	tournament not just in drone setups but
8234s	as just a pure links command ship it is
8236s	really really strong you can get four
8237s	links and you can run all the drones
8239s	um obviously not losing any DPS for
8241s	doing so so
8243s	um yeah really strong armor
8244s	battlecruiser I'm surprised that this is
8245s	I think the first time we've seen a band
8246s	but the other three bands as well
8247s	bargest
8249s	um just very ubiquitous sort of Rapid
8251s	heavy Battleship good and a lot of comp
8253s	so yeah I mean four legitimate bands
8255s	here I think yeah I mean Burgers I think
8257s	is a pretty good band against a team
8259s	like Exodus as Bart says they're kind of
8261s	known almost as like kaiting kings if
8263s	you come across those guys on TQ they're
8265s	likely to be somewhere 60 to 70
8267s	kilometers away from you uh controlling
8269s	you and shooting you from range and they
8271s	do it exceptionally well they have some
8273s	of the the most high school uh
8275s	individual Pilots possibly in uh on TQ I
8279s	know csb Swift has a soft spot for Wasa
8282s	QC one of the members of uh Exodus and I
8286s	do see him on grid so that is he's
8287s	flying in a ship that is high skill so I
8290s	expect to see uh some interesting
8292s	tactics coming from this team but it is
8294s	time to head over to the arena for this
8296s	exciting match between cast about and
8298s	exodus with your casters Mark
8299s	resurrecters and fear vinyl
8302s	foreign
8307s	hello everybody and welcome back to the
8309s	arena for the second half of the day my
8311s	name is sirvana joined by Mark
8313s	resurrectus and we will be bringing you
8315s	all of the last few matches first up
8318s	cast abouts versus Exodus Exodus have
8321s	decided to bring as I believe they are
8325s	on the blue side uh a balgorn dual Abba
8329s	comp so heavy armor control meanwhile uh
8332s	on the red side what do we have Mark
8333s	interesting bit of David Goliath action
8336s	going here with a triple Bell or the
8337s	triple battleships from Exodus we're now
8340s	seeing a quad battle cruiser comp coming
8343s	from our friends in casabouts with the
8345s	astarde Absolution hurricane Fleet and
8348s	brutix navy uh along with a handful of
8351s	Cruisers and support ships uh right out
8354s	the gate we're seeing some action as the
8356s	uh the team in red from casabas is you
8359s	know kiting away doing their work and
8361s	we're starting to see these abaddons and
8362s	other battleships start to slowly plot
8365s	their way across the the grid uh
8368s	abaddon's not well known for their
8370s	ability to run down uh kiting fleets
8373s	yeah typically not known for that but we
8376s	do see quite a few tracking disruptors
8378s	uh trying to close the gap coming in
8380s	from this arbitrator out of uh Exodus
8384s	meanwhile though carries and mollus
8386s	first time we're really seeing both of
8388s	those in the same comp they've got five
8390s	or four or five dams between two of them
8392s	currently three ships are being damped
8394s	including that arbitrator who had had
8396s	the track interceptors out now it's damp
8398s	so much that they can't actually do
8399s	anything we see Webb's honor this
8401s	Absolution right now from the battle
8402s	Gordon and he is dipping way low in
8404s	armor yeah I don't know why the asterity
8406s	is coming back so quickly to lend moral
8409s	support I guess the Assad is absolutely
8411s	diving into this blob getting right
8413s	within those that the swarm of
8415s	battleships there in the middle uh down
8416s	on top of that balgorn I understand the
8419s	Battleground is part of the primary here
8420s	and you can see some damage being put
8421s	onto that balgorn from a sabotage uh but
8425s	again putting your sarde a huge DPS
8428s	dealer for your Fleet right in the
8429s	middle of this comp is maybe not the
8432s	best play here
8433s	yeah and accidents were they're known
8435s	for bringing kite setups this time
8436s	bringing the armor control they got
8437s	first ball with the Absolution they're
8438s	gonna get this a Saturday down two and
8440s	none of their ships have really bled any
8442s	armor uh quite yet so this is an early
8444s	lead for Exodus that said you still have
8447s	a fleet hurricane and natov brutex
8448s	double Navy exec uh from the side of
8450s	castabouts if they're able to get away
8452s	but this Navy exec of Nazca looks to be
8455s	the next primary from the side of Exodus
8458s	yeah those those abaddons not really
8460s	known for their speed but definitely do
8462s	are known for their range and those
8465s	beams will absolutely Pummel that exec
8466s	Navy if you cannot get his transversal
8468s	up or get some range away from this he's
8471s	in a tough spot and again this is where
8473s	those uh the the dams have come in great
8476s	help uh for the team from cast about
8477s	damping down those abadons forcing them
8480s	to you know pick another targets or pick
8482s	something closer to them might save the
8484s	exec Navy but again he's dipping into
8486s	whole nazgath now dropping deep into
8489s	Hull trying to get ripped up but it will
8492s	not be enough in the exec Navy does go
8494s	down
8495s	something else to note here this is a
8497s	gun battle from the side of Exodus so
8499s	they've got uh bonus lasers on the Abba
8502s	on blowness lasers on the Bell uh
8504s	probably gonna be two newts and a NOS
8506s	but uh that long range web has been so
8509s	important for them they've got the web
8510s	under the enyo now uh trying to get some
8513s	of the screen off the field as a sweet
8514s	hurricane Navy Brew decks and augur are
8518s	also being taken on pretty effectively
8520s	they got paint so now another web under
8521s	the OG and down he goes yeah I misread
8525s	that as well these are pulses on the uh
8529s	on these are abaddons and again I mean
8532s	same difference you know at this range
8534s	it's it's still being able to apply a
8536s	ton of damage uh but now this is just a
8538s	matter of mopping up the rest of this
8540s	cast bass Fleet the brutix Navy of Avon
8543s	Farrell in half armor will go down
8545s	there's not there's you know there's
8547s	nothing left on the on the feel that
8548s	could support and and really nothing
8550s	left that could break through these
8551s	abatons have so much tank you really
8553s	need all of your DPS to be able to apply
8555s	losing these Saturday early was you know
8557s	obviously a problem
8559s	um and you know there's just not much
8562s	left at this point you're just writing
8564s	down waiting for this armor control comp
8566s	to uh you know to chew you up
8569s	yeah uh Exodus bringing something a
8571s	little different than what they're known
8573s	for and they execute it very well uh
8575s	they end up taking down ananyo a Brooks
8578s	Navy issue now they might end up winning
8579s	this match 100 to one as they did bring
8582s	a 99 Point comp really it's just not
8584s	enough DPS left on the table for cast
8586s	about to really kill anything and they
8588s	just lost in the kite matchup they were
8590s	forced in by this arbitrator and then
8592s	once they got the dams out they didn't
8593s	move out fast enough and they just kept
8595s	getting caught by this Bal Gore and dunk
8597s	as the hurricane Fleet issue and exodus
8600s	moving on to the at
8601s	the expected outcome I would assume uh
8604s	but still making it a perfect match for
8607s	them has to feel pretty good yeah I I
8609s	mean Exodus and 80s no no great surprise
8613s	there this is a pretty well matched or a
8615s	pretty well coached team pretty uh well
8617s	experienced team over the last couple of
8619s	years they've been uh pretty active in
8621s	this uh format uh and yeah I mean again
8625s	getting the app or the Absolution early
8627s	getting that tackled removing that DPS
8629s	and then forcing for some reason they
8632s	started to burn back in right into the
8634s	middle effectively sign their death
8636s	warrant from the word go so uh you know
8639s	a clean sweep here for our friends from
8641s	Exodus uh you know well played obviously
8643s	but some real critical missteps I think
8646s	for the team from
8648s	asked about so we see the carries making
8650s	getting ready to make the uh the the
8653s	jump play down here at the very bottom
8656s	C
8658s	has it gone for the Edge of Glory of
8660s	Gloria I don't think he's gonna make I
8662s	mean he's never gonna make it but I
8663s	don't know how well see what he got
8665s	I got 202 on my screen it looks pretty
8669s	good we will throw it back to our
8671s	friends at the desk with CCP overload
8673s	Baza and black bark pirate or analysis
8677s	of this exciting feeders match
8680s	guys stop being casual they're really
8683s	bad we should not lose anybody to this
8685s	warp off warp off take the fleet warp
8687s	everybody warp off this is a really
8688s	really bad execution I'm very
8690s	disappointed
8694s	another great hall back from Amar damn
8698s	I'm thirsty
8700s	[Music]
8703s	that hits the spot
8705s	[Music]
8716s	uh yeah we actually lost a bet as CCP
8719s	collectively so that's why that Alliance
8721s	logo is in the game of course you could
8724s	change your alliance by leaving but that
8725s	would be kind of a jerk move that kind
8727s	of oh you don't like it now sucks I'm
8730s	gonna go join
8731s	foreign
8745s	[Music]
8747s	back there Exodus securing themselves to
8750s	that spot in Alliance tournament 19 in
8752s	August uh cast about uh getting kind of
8755s	controlled there by somewhat unexpected
8758s	comp from Exodus I feel like every time
8761s	we oversee Exodus they no matter what
8763s	the matter is they always just kind of
8764s	bring uh you know High skill points
8768s	kiting uh you know execution comps this
8771s	is very different very very anti-classic
8773s	Exodus and you know didn't really match
8775s	up what we thought they were going to
8776s	bring Blackboard pirate what was uh what
8778s	was that come from Exodus there
8780s	uh it was really really similar to the
8783s	old Amar laser Rush that was really
8785s	prevalent I would say about 280s ago
8789s	um at the time the points were a little
8790s	different so people would run like two
8792s	or three abaddons at once with pulse
8794s	lasers and then throw a bunch of other
8795s	uh laser boats like you'd see pulse
8797s	oracles and you know sometimes maulers
8800s	and it would just do like 8 000 laser
8802s	DPS which is a very big number
8804s	um I think yesterday I heard one of the
8807s	commentators I think it was genton
8808s	talking about how every at team needs to
8812s	have certain things and one of them is a
8814s	minimum of 3000 DPS uh reason behind
8817s	that is that's generally accepted to be
8818s	the amount that it takes to break
8820s	through a logistics pilot uh 8000 is a
8824s	significantly larger number than three
8825s	thousand
8826s	um just to make sure that everyone is
8827s	tracking their math skills here The
8830s	Exodus team was probably sitting at
8831s	about like four to five thousand it was
8834s	a little bit different generally we see
8835s	these triple Battleship teams be maybe
8839s	not so great because that when they
8841s	dumped you know almost three-fourths of
8843s	their points into three ships but they
8845s	did it they flew a really good job and
8847s	they still had like 4 000 damage and the
8849s	algorithm allowed them to kind of ram in
8851s	grab something and then just melt them
8853s	down um it was a little bit different
8855s	but it was still like really cool and uh
8857s	intelligently set up on their part like
8858s	hyena Anna balgorn
8861s	can't really kite away from a 800 uh
8863s	speed Abaddon with that yeah we saw a
8866s	castle about to try and just blap that
8869s	hyena of water QC really early on
8871s	probably a good first Target to try and
8873s	go for because if you can hit it hit it
8875s	well right at the starter match when you
8877s	know people are most vulnerable probably
8879s	the closest Reign she was ever going to
8881s	be and then you're going to be in a much
8883s	stronger position taking those
8884s	long-range bonus webs and paints off of
8886s	the field uh obviously it didn't happen
8888s	uh they they shot them pretty hard
8890s	pretty quickly but he managed to get out
8891s	and get reps from his buddies in the
8894s	lodgy frigates who did a fantastic job
8895s	uh keeping everybody alive on The Exodus
8898s	team uh shout out of course to
8901s	um the cast about pilot who managed to
8903s	hit 205 kilometers uh past the Edge of
8906s	Glory as we mentioned the boundary is
8908s	125 kilometers if you go past that you
8910s	do explode if you can mjd yourself past
8913s	that using those beacons uh you can
8915s	obviously get a lot further and the
8918s	record currently held by Azure and
8919s	arrogant from guns foreign Federation is
8923s	231.5 kilometers and he took that from
8927s	boundary violation Superior expert
8929s	Casper 24 last year and currently is
8933s	still holding it is a superb effort 205
8936s	I believe uh is the best we've had thus
8939s	far in the live stream in 19 so we'll
8940s	keep an eye on that particular score of
8943s	course it's incredibly important to keep
8945s	track of this uh Baza we saw also a
8948s	decision there between the two teams
8950s	that varied one team bringing magazine
8952s	pontifex the other team bringing a
8954s	starting Absolution for links what do
8957s	you think here about this decision
8958s	I think both are totally viable options
8961s	I think it all depends on how you're
8962s	building the rest of the con I think if
8964s	you're running the three battleships
8965s	like Exodus one obviously you aren't
8966s	going to have the points to index into
8968s	command ships
8969s	um and I think that obviously plays into
8971s	their decision to ban the EOS at the
8972s	start because they're saying we aren't
8974s	going to use this we know we want to run
8976s	three battleships we aren't gonna have
8977s	the points to spare for anything else we
8978s	think it's a good ship in general so
8979s	let's get rid of it and the same for the
8981s	night org on the other side the
8982s	astarting app so I think if you're
8983s	running uh battle cruiser sort of gun
8985s	spam comp I think those are totally
8987s	viable options as well that just comes
8988s	down to what your comp in general is
8990s	trying to achieve and what the sort of
8992s	optimal way to fit the points in is
8995s	awesome and then Bart if you're gonna
8997s	pick uh I mean what you're thinking
8999s	obviously if you take three battleships
9001s	you're probably not gonna have enough
9003s	points left to take
9004s	um a command Cruiser so you command
9007s	battle Crystal sorry so you're gonna
9008s	have to probably go down to those
9009s	command destroyers do you think it's
9011s	worth obviously not for access in this
9013s	case they won but in general do you
9015s	think it's worth dropping one of those
9016s	battleships for getting those stronger
9018s	links or the just the power from the
9020s	Dual abundance plus the Battleground was
9022s	uh you know so much higher
9024s	so in general I don't think that a
9026s	triple Battleship team is particularly
9029s	good but uh we're in the feeders and the
9032s	feeder meta is
9033s	completely you know wackadoodle random
9036s	like you see people show up with six
9037s	people for instance which nobody has
9039s	ever won since Tinkers weren't a thing
9041s	with an underman team like underman
9043s	teams don't win for the last probably 10
9045s	years now uh you see weird stuff in the
9047s	feeders I think that for Exodus
9050s	obviously the triple Battleship team
9051s	worked but Exodus is a very good team
9054s	like they've consistently been I'd say
9056s	on average about top eight obviously
9059s	sometimes they've done worse sometimes
9060s	they've done better but this is a team
9061s	that we see do good
9063s	every single year for at probably since
9066s	at least a T12 at13 so like we're coming
9069s	up on a decade of them being a like a
9072s	gatekeeper team up into that popcorn and
9076s	so you kind of got to look at it from
9078s	that perspective right so like yeah
9079s	basically triple Battleship they did
9080s	good does that make triple Battleship
9081s	good that makes this good
9084s	um I think we've seen a lot of like
9085s	really high DPS uh teams just Crush
9088s	these sort of new routines in the
9089s	feeders and that's what Exodus is
9091s	they're just like hey like what are you
9092s	gonna do if we just Ram you and they're
9094s	like oh we don't know yeah I feel like
9096s	Exodus has been running for a little
9098s	longer than just uh around 80 13 or so
9100s	I'm sure I have memories of them around
9102s	about 18 9 or 10 and they were if I
9105s	remember correctly they were heading up
9107s	like they were top four a couple of
9108s	times even I can't quite remember uh I
9111s	think at-10 was ready to collapse who
9113s	won and I can't remember if it was
9114s	pandemic and they beat uh but usually
9117s	your memory doesn't go past first place
9119s	very often uh but I'm sure Exodus
9121s	certainly have been around for a very
9123s	long time uh doing doing cool things and
9126s	like you say kind of a gatekeeper uh
9128s	these days they I don't think I've seen
9130s	them crack even they've been close to
9133s	top paid a couple of times they might
9134s	have made it in the topic a couple of
9135s	times but they certainly haven't cracked
9137s	their top four for for quite some time
9139s	but they have still
9141s	been one of those teams that you know if
9144s	you're if you don't have your
9145s	together then X this will beat you they
9148s	are a very very solid team you cannot
9150s	underest it I'm pretty sure even the top
9153s	four teams uh each year if you're facing
9155s	it because this is a team you have to
9156s	take seriously you know uh I'm sure
9159s	Hydra when they're playing they aren't
9161s	going to just be like oh it's Exodus
9162s	it'll be pretty easy they're gonna
9164s	they're gonna get them some respect
9165s	which is which is you
9167s	I actually looked just randomly we've
9170s	got like a back end graphic that like
9172s	shows all the team's positions over the
9173s	years in the tournament I was like let's
9174s	just look at Exodus they've been around
9175s	for ages and speaking of their record I
9177s	found out I think over the last 10 years
9179s	their worst finish in the Lions
9181s	tournament has been two and two which is
9182s	top 16 and I think they got that once
9184s	and every other time they've got three
9185s	and two four and two five and two they
9187s	are for sure a really really good team
9189s	I think they're also one of those teams
9191s	that's kind of maintained a pretty
9192s	consistent core roster for you know 10
9196s	to 15 years at this point uh with some
9198s	of those Pilots so uh so and they do
9201s	very similar activities on TQ roaming
9203s	around High uh sort of APM stuff
9206s	um you know these are guys have been
9208s	flying together for a very long time so
9209s	I'm sure that team Dynamic is super high
9211s	as well
9212s	um it's always cool to see new teams
9213s	coming in but it's equally as cool to
9215s	see you know these these teams with
9217s	great Prestige uh and a long long
9220s	history in the alliance tournament uh
9223s	you know we'll see some more of them
9224s	next weekend we'll see for example
9225s	pandemic Legion a five-time winner of
9228s	Alliance tournament pandemic Legion
9229s	struggled a bit the last couple of years
9231s	uh and you know can they turn this uh
9234s	this boat around and move themselves
9235s	back towards top 16 maybe even top hit
9238s	who knows first of all they've got to
9239s	get through the feeders uh but let's
9241s	look forward to our next match today
9243s	which is another win and in between plug
9246s	and play and Yeet Pray Love which just
9249s	gonna say uh massive fan of that name it
9251s	is hilarious uh I just can't get enough
9254s	of it so let's look at the bands for for
9255s	plug and play versus each pre-love Plug
9258s	and Play choosing to ban out the Deacon
9260s	and the Nighthawk meanwhile each prelove
9262s	Banning out the barges and the curse uh
9265s	Blackbird pirate thoughts here
9267s	interesting bands coming from Plug and
9268s	Play
9269s	yeah I think the the Deacon's a very
9271s	interesting band
9273s	um I feel that it's it is definitely
9276s	like a decantalia is such a it opens up
9279s	so many interesting armor setups there
9281s	that I can understand why you would take
9282s	like that because like you could fly a
9284s	Thalia and then like an Inquisitor but
9287s	tech one logic frigates are really
9288s	really bad
9290s	um tattoo laundry forgets are actually
9291s	pretty decent the Nighthawk band I'm a
9294s	little confused about uh I personally
9297s	don't think these ham rushes have been
9298s	performing anywhere near as good as they
9301s	did maybe two years ago uh it but it is
9304s	has always been like this kind of back
9306s	pocket team like well what if they ham
9307s	Rush us and I can understand you know we
9310s	ban the Nighthawk because it's something
9311s	that a lot of people are flying and a
9313s	lot of people practice and are probably
9314s	practicing with I don't think it's a
9315s	good team but I get it but yeah the
9317s	Deacon is definitely like a that's a
9319s	that's an interesting one it's such a
9321s	versatile it's not a versatile ship but
9323s	it opens up very versatile armor cops
9325s	yeah I feel like by Banning out the
9327s	Deacon you either force people to like
9329s	you say take uh tech one Justice
9331s	Cruisers sorry take one Logistics
9333s	frigates if they were going that way or
9334s	maybe go for
9336s	um uh you know twin plenty ones and
9338s	taking the point inflation or of course
9340s	changing their company trying to fit in
9341s	a tech to Logistics Cruiser instead
9343s	rather the uh Our Guest is a super
9346s	popular uh ship in these sort of high
9349s	action economy running around the arena
9351s	kiting comps good band do you think yeah
9354s	I think so for sure I think as as we get
9357s	towards the actual Tournament of course
9358s	we'll see a variety of like Flagship
9359s	fits I think Argus is likely to be
9361s	chosen as a flagship again
9363s	um and you can have armor fits you can
9365s	have Shield fits Shield kite Shield Rush
9368s	um it's pretty versatile it pumps out
9370s	more damage than any of the other
9371s	battleships like just both in terms of
9373s	clearpan in terms of DPS so I mean yeah
9376s	I think it's a really good a really good
9377s	choice
9378s	yeah especially we don't actually have
9382s	um flagships in the feeders uh but when
9384s	we get to the main tournament the
9385s	flagship rule will be in effect again so
9387s	you will declare one particular uh
9389s	Battleship from a list of specific
9391s	eligible ships to be your Flagship uh
9393s	and the normal restrictions which are
9395s	Tech 2 modules and Below uh not no
9399s	longer apply there's an expanded list
9400s	you can put on some expensive officer
9402s	modules some fancy Dead Space stuff
9405s	um you can really you know pimp the hell
9408s	out of your your bar guests and if you
9410s	think you know the range of a Tech Two
9412s	scram versus the range of a really nice
9414s	officer one uh put on a bar guest with a
9417s	bonus it can be an incredibly powerful
9419s	and oppressive ship
9422s	um I think we will see a lot of our
9423s	guests again this year and they were
9425s	popular last year they were super
9426s	popular two years ago when of course
9428s	there were points discounted Bart do you
9430s	have any thoughts on the how the
9431s	flagship meta might start to shape up
9433s	this year
9434s	it's it's weird
9436s	um I think Vargas is still probably the
9438s	best Flagship just because of all of its
9440s	weird strengths which we probably don't
9441s	have a lot of time to go into right now
9443s	but I am wondering just because of the
9446s	gallante I feel like some people are
9447s	probably going to try and do like Navy
9449s	Domi flagships I don't think it's gonna
9450s	be good but I think the Bargas is still
9452s	probably going to end up being the ship
9454s	for the third year in the row we'll find
9455s	out soonish but yeah
9458s	yeah with uh the Navy Domi was buffed
9460s	just before uh Alliance tournament last
9463s	year so uh no one really had an
9465s	opportunity to pick it for their
9466s	Flagship and the decision was made kind
9468s	of before that it is available this year
9470s	it will be interesting to see how it
9472s	does scale with some of these uh you
9474s	know these fancy modules that people put
9476s	onto it
9477s	um we have about 20 seconds before we
9479s	can head over to the arena uh so let's
9482s	do some quick predictions Blackboard
9483s	Pirates uh eat pre-lover Plug and Play
9487s	oh I feel like uh Eat Pray Love sounds
9491s	like a wormhole group so they're gonna
9492s	lose
9493s	and basilisk oh I'm going you probably
9495s	love ice cream against these guys and
9497s	they are they are tough not to crack for
9499s	sure okay well I I'm gonna put a little
9502s	bit of Faith behind uh radicos and
9505s	jintan with uh plug and play and I'm
9507s	gonna go for them so let's head over to
9508s	the arena for plug and play versus Eat
9511s	Pray Love with Mark resurrectus and food
9513s	vinyl
9518s	welcome back folks it is me Mark
9520s	resurrectus of course here with fear
9522s	Vina and we have an interesting match up
9525s	here between our friends from Yeet play
9528s	Love and plug and play the Plug and Play
9532s	team in red and the play Love team in
9535s	blue Plug and Play has brought dual slip
9537s	uh Merm Navy broadsword Osprey Scythe
9540s	Fleet exec Navy dual jackdaw and a
9543s	stabber fear take us through the team
9545s	from Play Love
9547s	well they've brought double rapid heavy
9549s	Armageddon Navy issues and versus The
9552s	Shield Rush this is actually the exact
9555s	matchup that you prayed love last year
9557s	nanofiber tokens took Brave out of the e
9561s	t width with dual rabbit heavy army gun
9563s	navies versus near because they
9565s	uptanked the Armageddon Navy issues
9567s	we'll see if cable who was on the brave
9569s	team last year can remember what exactly
9571s	happened uh to that team last year and
9574s	maybe make the adjustments they need to
9576s	either way they are going to start
9578s	chunking down this armor Gibbon Navy
9579s	issue of Chadwick we'll see if these are
9581s	as uptanked as they were last year
9582s	during the lower bracket of the at and
9584s	oh my God the armor is not going away
9587s	that fast no it is not but they are the
9590s	xerithfulness in the Thalia taking a lot
9593s	of damage right now this team from uh
9596s	Plug and Play may be thinking that if
9597s	they can if they can uh you know push
9599s	the other value to have to focus either
9601s	on its friend value or the Navy maybe
9603s	they could split some attention but that
9605s	Chadwick in the Armageddon Navy now I
9607s	was slipping down into mid armor Midway
9610s	through his armor buffer I don't know
9612s	I'm actually not sure about this one the
9614s	Sentinel goes down at the same time as a
9616s	stabber they opted to go for the stabber
9618s	in their dual rapid heavy comps I feel
9620s	like that's quite a bit of a mistake
9622s	because it's armor to get a Navy issue
9624s	with Chadwick he's now down all the way
9626s	to 15 armor remaining and these slutners
9629s	remembered on Navy issue broadsword
9630s	these do a combined like 5000 DPS
9633s	between those four ships and they're
9635s	almost done with this arm we get a Navy
9637s	issue this could be disastrous for you
9639s	pray love they're gonna take down this
9640s	exit Navy at the very least so they're
9642s	gonna lose their last lodgy or at least
9643s	one of their Logie in return from the
9645s	wolf pack of uh Nano or not now fiber
9648s	tokens excuse me plug and play they lose
9650s	their arm we got Navy issue and the
9651s	majority of the DPS is still online for
9653s	Plug and Play they're under the EOS now
9655s	yeah and he play Love really does not
9657s	have that much DPS left they're burning
9659s	through the EOS now of avix tillerin
9662s	once that EOS goes down the only DPS of
9664s	any note they have left on the grid is
9666s	why can't in the Armageddon Navy while
9669s	the Plug and Play team still has two
9671s	slept nears a Merm Navy and you know the
9674s	the two jackdaws which are not nothing
9676s	to scoff at this is a disastrous
9678s	situation now for the yeah these are
9680s	rocket jackdaws too they've been going
9681s	in pretty ham at the moment they're
9684s	gonna lose their sight Fleet issue which
9686s	is a correct Target to be taken down uh
9689s	from ye pray love but this EOS is about
9692s	to fall and once again they only have
9694s	the remaining damage of an Armageddon
9696s	Navy uh this vexer Navy issue if I take
9698s	a look at it right now does not have any
9701s	guns on it so this is a full new vexard
9703s	Navy issue uh up against this team from
9706s	plug and play as it's EOS goes down this
9709s	could just be the match single clip of
9711s	Rapid heavy missiles will not kill
9713s	anything left on the field from Plug and
9716s	Play yeah Plug and Play playing this
9719s	very smart once again putting dual
9721s	pressure on both the EOS and the Thalia
9724s	making the Thalia half the force whether
9725s	it's going to get range or way to try
9727s	and save itself or the EOS or in this
9730s	case probably neither because both are
9732s	gonna drop the value now glow low armor
9735s	uh he is he's getting wrapped up a
9737s	little bit by those by those Bots but
9739s	it's not going to be enough
9741s	well this Navy is actually going down
9742s	pretty quickly at the moment I mean
9745s	they've got damage from this arm again
9746s	Navy issue and the murder Navy doesn't
9747s	really have a whole lot of tank if it's
9749s	Shield fit uh which is what we see here
9752s	the Osprey has been completely neuted
9753s	out by the specs or navy issue and with
9756s	that uh this marmadon Navy issue will go
9759s	down yeah these slept nears really need
9761s	to start paying attention to the next
9762s	Navy
9763s	Plug and Play effectively has no lodgy
9765s	at this point that Osprey is just slow
9767s	boating around out there miserable as
9769s	hell right now cannot do anything to
9771s	affect some kind of response for its
9773s	teammates but at the same time now we
9775s	see the Armageddon Navy starting to take
9777s	damage because both of these we've got
9778s	the broadsword tackle right on top of it
9780s	and both of the slept nears now are
9781s	getting in range and playing full power
9784s	from their Auto cannons Into the Dead
9786s	Navy just trying to burn it down before
9788s	they can do any more damage anywhere
9789s	else
9790s	and the Jato swap Valley is on a magic
9793s	card they're taking him down the half
9795s	armor but these dual jackdaws just
9796s	haven't been able to actually kill this
9798s	logy which has helped uh you pray love
9801s	stay in this match Grant you the
9802s	nears they don't need the repping from
9805s	the Osprey to stay alive they have
9806s	xlasbs they have their Shield rep bonus
9809s	and so nine reps out of them is all
9811s	they're gonna see but the Thalia finally
9812s	goes down which frees up these jackdaws
9815s	to start killing other things but turo
9817s	gorp all the way down to half Shields
9818s	right now remember he still has his
9819s	xlisb charges but he's got to wrap up a
9822s	lot faster this Armageddon Navy issue is
9824s	not falling right now yeah and we can
9826s	see the Osprey Navy still just hanging
9827s	out with his very good friend the
9829s	vaccinating chilled out completely out
9831s	of new no thoughts in his head cannot do
9834s	a single thing while watching Turon gorp
9837s	just getting slapped in the face slapped
9840s	in the face by these these rapid Heavies
9843s	from the dead Navy it's it's it's it's
9844s	tough to watch car breaker goes down
9846s	Skywalker goes down it's just the
9848s	arbitrator that's our Navy and
9850s	Armageddon Navy you left on the field
9852s	Baxter and everyone's getting full Newt
9854s	the armaged Navy issue has heavy needs
9855s	of their own they're trying to nude out
9857s	the near of cable Utah but once
9858s	again cable Utah he's got a xlasb
9861s	charges same thing with turo gorp so
9863s	they really don't need any sort of
9865s	active modules to do what they need to
9866s	do on this field this Army got a Navy
9868s	issue now down all the way to 56 armor
9872s	remaining but we're almost out of xlasb
9874s	charges for two or Corp this might
9875s	actually be a really close match when it
9878s	comes down to it because the only uh DPS
9880s	left on the table is going to be the
9881s	slept near Broad torque and dual rocket
9883s	jackdaws the vexard Navy issue is
9884s	finally getting some damage from the
9886s	material guards all the way into armor
9887s	against one locks after lasp charge off
9890s	at the end of this but I don't think
9891s	he's going to live tiru gorp he's gonna
9893s	go down the lead is still in favor of
9897s	Plug and Play at the moment but it's
9899s	slowly slipping from their grasp as his
9901s	army because maybe you might be able to
9902s	survive the remaining damage yate
9905s	Prelude still down on points they need
9908s	to kill the slept near they absolutely
9909s	have to kill this left near cable Utah
9911s	who has all these charges left now it's
9913s	just a race it's a race between who can
9915s	die first cable Utah or Hawaii Kant in
9918s	the Armageddon Avion the Armageddon Navy
9920s	has the lead here now undying being
9923s	closer to death the reaper lingers
9925s	around how I kante but again there's a
9928s	lot of damn all of us Focus now is on
9930s	the side but the
9932s	um
9934s	structure you pray love they might
9936s	actually go down here they knocked down
9939s	cable uta's team last year from Brave in
9942s	the tournament now they're gonna get
9943s	knocked down by the combined radicos
9946s	cable and jinton believe it or not who's
9949s	not flying this time around they lose
9951s	their Armageddon Navy issue that's their
9953s	last DPS off the table and plug and play
9956s	are going to advance to the main
9958s	tournament and radicos is currently oh
9962s	so clenched right now but he finally
9965s	made it into the tournament through a
9967s	feeder uh well done to them and plug and
9971s	play Nano fiber tokens last year they
9973s	had a top eight showing uh beating out
9976s	Brave Collective for that spot and so
9979s	this year they're gonna have to make
9981s	their way in through the rest of the
9983s	feeder bracket but I think they're the
9984s	strongest team in that lower portion so
9988s	good luck to them but Plug and Play they
9992s	make it into the main tournament and
9994s	they are very happy about that yeah
9996s	really really well done shout out to our
9998s	boy radicos finally finally does not
10001s	choke early uh came in with a strong
10003s	with a great plan applied it well slept
10006s	near so good Auto Cannon slept and
10008s	you're so good people who should not use
10010s	already slip knees just use autocannon
10012s	swiftness they're great we've seen that
10014s	here being able to clear out the get in
10016s	Navy's with the with the might of the
10018s	minmatar Republic behind them absolutely
10021s	doing the gods work the Vex Navy will go
10023s	down Orca Lamont and the arbitrator is
10025s	not far behind them and that will do it
10029s	oh my God like just for some context
10033s	back in the preview show last week
10035s	radicos caught a lot of Strays like he
10038s	was one of the last teams to get picked
10040s	uh from Plug and Play jinton didn't even
10043s	pick his own team uh actually wait no he
10045s	did maybe
10046s	I can't even remember uh because I
10049s	didn't pick my own team and uh mod
10051s	didn't pick his own team either way uh
10053s	you pray love they're gonna go down a
10055s	lower bracket I think they have a good
10056s	shot at running to the main tournament
10059s	but Plug and Play they are breathing a
10062s	sigh of relief as we send it back to the
10064s	desk for analysis of that match and to
10066s	bring us in to the elimination matches
10068s	for this afternoon
10070s	[Music]
10074s	foreign
10075s	[Music]
10101s	together
10115s	your attempts are completely damned out
10117s	Crush I'm dumped out I'm dumped out you
10119s	don't like Champions boys
10128s	I'm jammed
10130s	Plug and Play there slotting straight
10133s	and easily to the main tournament uh
10136s	didn't even touch the sides meanwhile
10137s	Eat Pray Love getting heated into the
10140s	lower bracket uh we will see them again
10143s	and they still have a chance of course
10144s	to make their way through uh to the main
10147s	event but it won't be easy for them
10149s	there they will have to do a lot more
10150s	praying and a lot less eating in order
10153s	to get him
10155s	um so black bear pirate uh AC sleps and
10158s	a extremely girthy attack bar there from
10161s	uh the Plug and Play side what's your
10163s	what's your thoughts here
10165s	I mean that's that's what a shielders is
10167s	supposed to be like I I don't know
10170s	um how many people here have watched
10172s	enough to understand the exact little
10174s	intricacies of the attack bar but uh
10177s	it's it's the potential DPS right so
10179s	right off the rip when you see these two
10181s	teams and you see one of them have an
10182s	attack bar that's like a fourth the size
10184s	of the other one you can kind of look at
10186s	the other team and say oh these guys
10188s	have a lot of potential damage and
10191s	um you know quick math they probably had
10192s	like eight or nine thousand DPS of Auto
10195s	cannons which is a very very very very
10197s	large amount like we saw ships just
10200s	completely melting there uh and that's
10202s	actually what we you want to see with
10203s	the shield rush like the Minotaur Shield
10205s	Rush performed amazing last year
10208s	obviously it has a little was able to
10209s	get a little better because it was
10210s	discounted points but it's still
10212s	performing well this year like you know
10214s	screw this ham Rush hamrush is silly do
10217s	the autocannon rush it's way better it's
10219s	way more fun till you go really fast and
10220s	then sometimes you blow up quick so
10221s	instead of getting these like slow drawn
10224s	out like oh we got to take a Nighthawk
10225s	down it's like nah just go in with a
10226s	stabber going with the Scythe Fleet yeah
10228s	maybe you have 30 000 HP but you know at
10230s	least you're gonna look cool you do it
10232s	you agree with that buzzer you're gonna
10234s	look cool while you've got in I'm gonna
10236s	be the rare voice of descent and I say I
10238s	completely disagree to be honest I think
10239s	ham Rush is a far more reliable I I'm
10241s	not personally a fan of the AZ sledness
10243s	and the rush comps
10245s	um in this in this matchup I think it
10246s	worked well because they were free to
10247s	push in
10249s	um at their Leisure as they were and
10250s	park up on the Armageddon Navy's and
10252s	unleash the damage from those sleptness
10254s	um but I think in many match-ups it can
10256s	play out a lot differently you get
10258s	tackled down by a Confessor or a hyena
10260s	or something and it whips you off and
10262s	suddenly your 700 800 DPS letting is
10264s	only doing 300 because he's had to
10266s	switch to barrage and he's 20 kilometers
10267s	away from the primary so in that
10269s	situation I feel like the hamrush
10271s	variant is more reliable you've got a
10273s	bit more range to play with and you
10274s	don't have to worry about the
10275s	intricacies of tracking an optimal range
10276s	especially when you come up against
10277s	arbitrators and Sentinels you can just
10280s	completely your guns
10282s	I have been told
10285s	um that uh if you Lord hail then thou
10288s	shall never fail uh how does that
10291s	interact with your Escape well that
10293s	sounds that sounds like eating praying
10294s	and loving and that didn't go too well
10296s	for them so I mean
10298s	I get I mean it was uh
10302s	the other team um Plug and Play who did
10304s	it so I mean you know they they plug and
10306s	played they banned the Nighthawk and
10308s	plug and played the sleptness in so I
10309s	mean props to them for living up to the
10311s	name in that regard I suppose
10312s	all right you thought you had a you had
10314s	a comment I do so the the thing though
10317s	to remember is that yeah if like let's
10320s	let's say that it happens right somehow
10322s	these feeder teams learn how to screen
10324s	which they don't know how to do we've
10326s	seen this like for literally a decade
10329s	that these teams you know generally the
10331s	screening is hard it's really hard to
10332s	screen a slapner anyways because if they
10335s	can actually just swap to you and blow
10336s	you up really fast but if you screen a
10338s	Nighthawk off 20 kilometers off the
10340s	target it also can't actually hit
10343s	if you screen a sleptner off 20K off it
10345s	can do 300 DPS right so up here's this
10347s	barrage you can hit so you know you can
10349s	probably apply it 300 damage like 30 to
10351s	40 kilometers pretty easily
10353s	um heavy assault missiles there's a spot
10355s	where they just they disappear they
10356s	fizzle away into space and it's between
10358s	15 to 25 kilometers you know depending
10360s	on the ship
10362s	um also you know your kinetic lock also
10364s	your ship is half the speed like a
10366s	slutner can go almost 2.5 k meters a
10369s	second like they are fast those stabbers
10371s	I you know I didn't actually see its top
10372s	speed but I've seen uh Scythe Fleet
10375s	issue actually last tournament in the
10377s	finals when truth honor light brought a
10379s	Minotaur rush and cleaned house in like
10381s	two and a half minutes in like the
10383s	second to last match we saw a scythe
10385s	Fleet issue hit like 5K I got like 5K
10387s	yeah oh yeah I'm here so yeah I mean the
10391s	Minotaur Rush has always been insane
10393s	it's just kind of hard to pull off
10395s	because it's a very
10397s	um sort of team-wide APM intensive thing
10399s	uh heavy assault missiles those are
10402s	those are for noobs like they're for
10404s	people that are like oh yeah I don't
10405s	have to worry about tracking I don't
10407s	have to worry about it this is the fetus
10409s	fault we should be promoting these ideas
10411s	two noobs we should be saying you know
10412s	this is the preliminary rounds you need
10413s	to be using the noob strats don't go for
10415s	this uh Hydra AC rush you know is that
10418s	right
10419s	oh absolutely it's true
10422s	certified excellent all right and also I
10426s	believe a uh Flagship feeding enjoyer uh
10428s	if I remember correctly from last year
10430s	someone's going to the quickest
10431s	flagships to get fed it was uh it was uh
10434s	very sad I'm not gonna lie what should
10436s	have happened I wish I could have seen
10438s	it uh your face in person as it's
10440s	happening
10442s	but we got to we got to hear it because
10443s	I think you cast it that much yeah I
10445s	think I was molding a little bit but
10446s	yeah that's okay
10449s	um I want to talk about two other things
10450s	that we saw in that last match which uh
10452s	we don't see much of thus far obviously
10454s	the slept near historically one of the
10455s	most popular ships in Alliance
10457s	tournament for for a very long time last
10460s	so these days with the the the change of
10462s	matters but still a solid solid ship
10465s	um and there was a lot of talk about him
10466s	firing off his xlasb
10468s	um Baza what is an xlasb the Excel and
10471s	ancillary Shield booster so you can load
10473s	it up with cap Chargers you load it up
10475s	with navy cap under maybe cat booster
10476s	400s or 800s if you're
10479s	Doing It Wrong um because then you get
10481s	like four cycles and no benefit
10483s	um so you can get nine cycles of you
10485s	pump these
10487s	just it's just chilled HP on demand it's
10488s	just a shield booster nine Cycles off
10490s	the nine Cycles it costs a ton so
10492s	you probably won't get a 10 cycle unless
10493s	you're in a battleship
10495s	um but it's like you know it's like a
10497s	more efficient Shield extender if you
10498s	can fit it you get more HP for the slot
10501s	yeah it's always fun to watch a ship
10503s	getting shot with them and you see they
10505s	tend not to have as much just raw Shield
10506s	HP so you see the shield get chunked
10509s	down pretty hard then the xlsb fires and
10511s	it goes up and as Baza says it tends to
10514s	be loaded with around about nine uh
10517s	charges so people start counting them to
10520s	see uh you know how long can this guy
10522s	tank for and of course then if people
10525s	shoot you and use five then they switch
10526s	off you then end up in that super
10529s	awkward situation be like hey do I just
10532s	not risk reloading because that takes 60
10534s	seconds and keep those four charges or
10536s	do I just say hashtag Yolo reload and
10539s	hope they don't swap back to me in the
10540s	next 60 seconds while I'm stuck be
10543s	loading or what's your what's your
10544s	thought on that
10546s	I think generally you just reload it
10549s	like and you send it and you see what
10551s	happens you know maybe maybe get like
10552s	one or two more charges off to get to
10553s	Max shield and then reload it
10555s	um we've seen some actual really good
10557s	play with sleptner Pilots too that
10559s	they'll like burn out of damage range
10561s	and then reload and then come back in
10563s	which is sort of the ideal situation uh
10566s	yeah it's it's really powerful I mean
10568s	the yeah slap your insulator Shield
10570s	booster will pretty much take a single
10572s	battleship's rapid Heavies by itself and
10575s	their reloads are close enough that you
10577s	know you can get situations like that
10579s	where once that uh once that first
10581s	getting was down he's like oh this is
10583s	over like they won't be able to break
10585s	this up there so they don't have enough
10586s	damage just because of the mechanics of
10587s	the ancillary Shield booster like even
10589s	if nothing else happened
10591s	they were fine at that point
10594s	yeah and uh as Casper 24 points out
10596s	sometimes while burning away you can
10598s	also just run straight out of the Arena
10599s	can't be sure if your ship has exploded
10603s	um it's a solid tactic uh I know Casper
10605s	deploys that regularly uh I haven't seen
10608s	the boundary for a while though but he
10609s	used to be just a uh over the boundary
10612s	enjoyer regular regular times uh across
10615s	across that Edge of Glory uh another
10617s	thing that we saw in that last match of
10619s	course was broadsword heavy into
10620s	detector
10621s	don't see them very often around in
10623s	tournaments they have a very specific
10625s	purpose in a comp like that as a 30
10628s	seconds why would you bring something
10630s	like a I'm sorry the heckpoint it's a
10633s	hit point you can put a hit point on it
10634s	instead of a scram so you get a 20
10635s	kilometer scram basically and you just
10637s	get like a it's effectively just like a
10639s	um the old munion with ACS you just get
10641s	a hack with ACS that charges in it's
10643s	quite tanky you've got 20 kilometer
10644s	scram it's quite fast
10646s	um and you can just match it up with the
10647s	slutness and stop pumping
10649s	take a shot I said pumping yep all right
10652s	uh that's Baza Bengal every time we have
10655s	to take shots
10656s	um all right so we're going to look into
10658s	our next match now which is an
10659s	elimination match and that means that
10661s	whoever loses this match uh is going
10663s	home and this match is between test
10665s	Alliance please ignore and literally
10667s	triggered so let's take a look at the
10669s	bands here uh test Alliance please
10671s	ignore choosing to ban out the carries
10674s	and the balgorn whereas literally
10676s	triggered burning out the Blackbird and
10679s	The Vindicator Blackboard pirate uh
10682s	these seem all in all pretty sensible
10684s	normal bands until we hit the Vindicator
10688s	yeah I don't know why you would ban a
10690s	Vindicator they're not like they're good
10692s	ships but they're not as good as
10696s	they could be like we saw it used a ton
10698s	last year but it was with these like
10699s	very specific uh kind of double
10702s	Battleship and then really heavy e-ore
10704s	teams where having a really heavy DPS
10706s	relatively tanky uh 90 web ship was
10709s	really good
10711s	um we're not seeing a lot of e-word this
10712s	year uh whether or not that's because
10714s	the feeder teams don't are scared of it
10716s	and they don't understand how to use it
10718s	or because of the rule changes making it
10720s	not as good but the Vindicator
10723s	I don't think that's like again that's
10724s	not the ship began here right like Evan
10727s	of indicator and you can bring a Navy
10728s	Mega it's similar uh similar roles
10731s	actually significantly less points too
10733s	but I did see something
10736s	I think it was Baza who actually said it
10738s	that was like uh if uh literally
10740s	triggered it doesn't bring an AV Mega
10742s	I'll lick my cat is that that's correct
10745s	yeah yeah okay so and then they brought
10747s	a Navy Mega I just felt like it didn't
10748s	help it you know in my soul I felt like
10750s	they just they're just attracted to this
10752s	kind of Tempest Fleet Navy Mega
10753s	they love it they're all over it yeah
10756s	I think they'll probably just bring that
10758s	and they're like oh yeah we banned The
10759s	Vindicator and we bring a Navy Mega haha
10760s	nobody expects it and it's like they
10762s	look the same I mean it's the same
10764s	basically cool good job guys
10768s	these bands here I mean Kerry's bargain
10770s	from test seems pretty pretty sensible
10773s	yeah yeah it seems pretty standard here
10775s	I mean it's just again generic bands
10777s	that you don't want to come up against
10778s	if you come up against the belgawn and
10780s	you you're in a comp that particularly
10782s	suffers from the newts and the web
10783s	controller can be just it can make the
10784s	match very very difficult from the
10785s	outset same for the carries with the
10787s	dams it can just in some matchups it can
10789s	just make it very unplayable so yeah
10791s	just good broadbands
10793s	awesome now one of those
10796s	um ships that has been banned there uh
10797s	that Blackbird we talk about ECM a bunch
10801s	of spark can you just run us through as
10802s	we look at this graphic explaining ECM
10804s	what does ECM how does it work
10807s	CM uh it's pretty much the simplest
10810s	mechanic in Eve online to actually
10811s	understand funnily enough because you
10813s	take your sensor strength and you take
10815s	your jam strength and you divide one by
10817s	the other and that's your percent chance
10819s	to get jammed it's actually super super
10820s	simple
10822s	um obviously you can never 100 chance to
10824s	jam and you can have a zero percent
10825s	chance to jam but if you get jammed by
10827s	ECM uh you as the pilot can only lock
10831s	the ship that is jamming you now a long
10834s	long time ago I'm gonna say this is
10836s	actually like three or four years ago
10837s	but for some people that was a long time
10839s	for some people
10840s	yeah okay six or seven see my brain
10844s	doesn't work
10845s	um if you're a jam you couldn't do
10846s	anything now you can still shoot the
10848s	other ship so it was a pretty big Nerf
10850s	uh
10851s	just because it's like hey we can now
10853s	Target the ship jamming us
10855s	um but it still prevents you from like
10858s	locking anything else and so it's
10859s	especially effective against like
10861s	Logistics or short-range ships perhaps
10863s	Navy Mega that could may or may not show
10865s	up uh because if you're being jammed
10868s	from 50 kilometers and you have blasters
10869s	you're not going to hit it if you're a
10871s	logistic ship and you're jammed you
10872s	can't rep your friends so it's still
10874s	pretty powerful
10875s	um we haven't really seen it used
10877s	effectively we've actually seen it lose
10879s	really hard in the feeder so far uh
10882s	thinking of thinking of you whoever was
10884s	brave enough to bring three scorpions
10885s	yeah nice try it was terrible though
10888s	yeah jams used to be like a super solid
10892s	meta because you could if you had good
10894s	Intel what your opponents were going to
10896s	want to bring uh back in the day it was
10898s	super common uh well the only way to
10900s	practice was to practice on Singularity
10901s	and you could do things like spy on
10904s	people practicing find out what they
10905s	they might like to bring and then you
10908s	know take a bit of a Gamble and skew
10909s	your jams obviously if you go for uh
10911s	multi-spectrals then you get flat bonus
10913s	across the board to all the different
10915s	racial ships but you have those four
10918s	different racial uh jams as well so if
10921s	you think hey if I ban them out of say
10923s	both good Shield Logistics they're gonna
10925s	have to bring armor you can probably
10927s	skew into armor Jam so jams did have a
10931s	bit of a play and count to play around
10932s	it but it is it did become a bit of a
10935s	bit of an RNG at times you know roll the
10938s	dice sometimes you win we've seen ships
10940s	uh the hero Ibis the one point Ibis
10942s	which is actually an ECM bonus ship the
10944s	rookie ship uh Landing a jam on a
10947s	flagship I think it was one time a
10949s	couple of years ago uh you know the
10950s	chance of that I think people worked out
10952s	something like point one percent but the
10955s	dice landed exactly right and uh you
10958s	know that Flagship got jammed out by
10959s	this little tiny Ibis and won the match
10961s	we've also seen Brave with a hero
10963s	Griffin in a match one time do something
10965s	similar Banning out jamming out
10967s	something pretty exciting
10969s	all right um I see we had a bit of a
10973s	delay we had a disconnect from uh one of
10975s	our teams so we're just waiting for uh
10978s	the teams to get onto grid now I see all
10979s	the team members are in system and and
10982s	warping into the arena if you've never
10984s	been in a tournament match yourself
10985s	before uh the way it works it can be
10987s	pretty scary you sit in a station
10989s	somewhere just chilling out some very
10992s	nervous Captain is telling everyone to
10993s	double check you have the right ammo
10995s	double check you've loaded everything
10997s	Etc everyone's getting ready and then
10999s	all of a sudden you just get teleported
11001s	out of that station that you have staged
11003s	in into uh the great void of space where
11006s	all your ships are placed very nicely
11008s	one next to each other and a line it's a
11010s	great option to take some screenshots uh
11012s	and you're told hey check your ships
11014s	make sure everything's there make sure
11015s	everything's working by the refs at that
11017s	point you can't warp at all you're
11018s	locked in position you cannot move both
11021s	teams are way off of discount from each
11022s	other opposite side of the system and
11024s	they have actually picked one of four
11026s	beacons to warp in from the rest will
11028s	then unlock working and the T teams are
11030s	allowed to work into the arena arrange
11031s	of their choice between 0 and 50
11033s	kilometers occasionally people do things
11035s	like warp to the Sun or warp to 70 or
11038s	100 this is in fact illegal and they get
11041s	teleported to zero amongst other
11043s	punishments that can happen including
11045s	setting their Hull armor and shield to
11047s	50 if it is particularly egregious but
11050s	we haven't seen that for for a couple of
11052s	years all right so the teams are ready
11055s	everyone's in system let's head over to
11057s	the arena for test Alliance please
11058s	ignore versus literally triggered
11066s	Hello everybody welcome back to the
11067s	arena Monastery Urbana I'm joined by
11069s	Mark resurrectus and on the blue side it
11072s	is literally triggered to have brought
11074s	triple Battleship armor control setup
11076s	with a pulse Armageddon Navy issue
11080s	yeah and nobody tell wingnet about this
11082s	he might get a little too excited
11084s	because our friends from test Alliance
11086s	have brought a a similar but different
11089s	triple Battleship setup with two
11091s	Armageddon navys and a Hyperion
11094s	incredible to see this on the grid uh
11098s	you know our boy Wayne that does love
11100s	the hype and here we go these teams now
11103s	both establishing some some control over
11105s	the middle of the match you see them
11106s	just kind of testing the waters on the
11108s	sides with their uh their battleships
11110s	kind of set at range from each other
11111s	just putting in some volleys seeing
11113s	who's going to break first
11115s	these dual Army got an HV issues of test
11117s	Alliance please ignore our rapid heavy
11119s	fit mismatched with the Hyperion of Ave
11122s	American and unfortunately they're up
11124s	against an arbitrator which means
11126s	missile disruption onto both Armageddon
11128s	Navy issues and tracking disruption
11129s	under this higher period this is exactly
11132s	why you don't miss your go mix your gun
11134s	systems because if you're up against
11135s	scripted e-war like this you run into
11138s	trouble so this arbitrator going to be
11140s	the target to watch from the side of
11142s	laterally triggered both these teams
11144s	getting a little bit of pot shots in on
11146s	each other but the Sentinel of literally
11148s	triggered Grim of axmorpher goes down
11151s	first from Tesla lines please ignore
11154s	yeah it's interesting to see how the uh
11157s	the the team from test is kind of
11158s	situated themselves the the Armageddon
11160s	Navy both of the Armageddon navies or
11162s	rather one of the armaged Navies has
11163s	kind of gone in on the uh on the fleet
11166s	from literally triggered by the Hyperion
11168s	over here at range is kind of sitting by
11170s	itself I'm not quite sure what it's
11172s	shooting at it's just it's shooting at
11175s	drones I think well it's arbitrator
11177s	right now is taking a whole lot of
11179s	damage because his armor got Navy issues
11181s	with their dual rapid heavy setups do
11183s	quite a bit to Cruisers especially Tech
11185s	One support Cruisers like we're seeing
11187s	from this arbitrator uh they nearly took
11190s	down Hilo on the exact Navy he was able
11191s	to rep back up but they're up against
11193s	dual lodgy Frakes so they might be able
11195s	to break through this arbitrator with
11197s	the rapid heavy clip and the steakin
11198s	antholium might not be able to beat
11199s	enough to hold them in place meanwhile
11202s	from the side of literally trigger they
11204s	don't have a primary right now they're
11205s	just sitting around shooting absolutely
11208s	no one uh they've got some newts on top
11210s	of their Fleet Tempest but otherwise
11212s	they just haven't caught anyone and as I
11214s	said that there's web grapple on SOL
11215s	Darius and the Navy Armageddon that will
11217s	be the primary from the side of
11220s	literally triggered yeah we're seeing
11222s	the Armageddon or rather the arbitrator
11224s	now drop that's going to be huge it's
11226s	huge for those for those rapid Heavies
11228s	uh and now but the team from test
11230s	Alliance is going to be able to apply
11231s	quite a bit better but this is an
11234s	interesting situation there's some there
11236s	has to be some damage yeah disconnect
11237s	somebody called Shoot the Armageddon
11239s	Navy and they're two Armageddon navies
11241s	and now we've got split damage that's
11243s	that's just that's the mistake you don't
11245s	want to make at the same time the test
11247s	Alliance team is not making that same
11249s	mistake going Whole Hog now on Michael
11252s	Rima in the Abaddon uh but I say that
11255s	but then again the exec native Gila also
11257s	taking some damage on the back they're
11259s	trying to flip the lodgy frig uh damage
11262s	for the logifrag wrapping power I should
11264s	say they have paints on this uh hyena
11267s	and it has been helping them out quite a
11269s	bit
11270s	this exact Navy going down to the rapid
11271s	Heavies this is the exact way that you
11274s	want to run it when you have dual rapid
11275s	heavy because the ABBA is a very tanky
11277s	ship they lose their exact Navy issue
11280s	and this abaddin of duroc he is not
11282s	tackled right now in fact so Darius got
11284s	away from the tackle so Durock is
11286s	staying alive through these large lasers
11288s	I can't believe it Tess is actually
11290s	winning a match yeah test Alliance
11293s	please ignore in the year 2023 actually
11296s	being successful in a match against
11297s	another team
11299s	incredible to see this fear for the
11301s	first time in my life with my own human
11303s	eyes I'm glimpsing it but they're doing
11305s	it and they're doing it in a convincing
11307s	fashion uh duroc has both of the uh the
11310s	logic freaks nearby to rep him back up
11312s	and the Deacon from literally trigger
11315s	drops the only logic they have left is
11317s	the Thalia of Jeff mcgeeffrey
11321s	uh Jeff mcjoffrey you know he's he's
11325s	gonna we're trying to think about that
11326s	for a little bit longer it's a great
11327s	name meanwhile though Durock finally has
11329s	been caught and he is being taken down
11331s	very quickly by these triple battleships
11333s	we say tests are winning the match right
11335s	now but you also have to remember there
11337s	is significantly more DPS potential uh
11341s	from the side of test for the time being
11343s	but once they lose this Army got an AV
11344s	issue uh as we see this attack bar
11346s	beginning to ramp up from the side of
11349s	literally triggered they have three
11351s	battleships that don't rely on clip
11354s	reloads and they take down this first
11355s	Army got a Navy issue they might move on
11357s	to the second next and wait save the
11359s	Hyperion for lost but their Thalia is
11361s	quickly dropping and goes down yeah they
11363s	really need to take out one of these
11364s	battleships quickly that's a lot of DPS
11366s	to put on to Sol Darius and the
11368s	Armageddon Navy you can see him now
11370s	already right about 60 percent UH 60
11373s	armor and dropping fast they need to
11375s	counter quickly to be able to at a
11379s	certain point they have to get rid of
11380s	some of this DPS there's still so much
11381s	DPS left on the side of literally
11384s	literally triggered that and again
11387s	you'll see it right here so Darius
11388s	dropping so quickly the value in the
11390s	Deacon are not enough to keep it up
11392s	yeah they went for this low end which is
11394s	what do you need to do with these rapid
11395s	heavy comps but completely ignoring the
11397s	high ends they just can't kill anyone
11399s	right now this Tempest Fleet issue of
11401s	Geronimo is currently the primary but
11404s	he's sitting at 80 armor remaining to
11406s	the 19 from saldarius he is starting to
11409s	rep back up I think he got an Ansel
11411s	reload in so we'll be able to actually
11412s	stay alive for the time being wait a
11414s	second they might actually be able to
11416s	turn this around he's all the way back
11417s	up to 45 armor he got his reload in on
11422s	the AAR and now tests are back in the
11426s	lead of this match yes I never doubted
11428s	you for a second theft Alliance I of
11430s	course was once a test Alliance play it
11432s	and and I understand the Legacy and
11435s	history of test maybe better than local
11438s	yeah
11440s	knows what's going on oh yeah and test
11443s	you know test they finally pull a win
11446s	this week after losing TTT and losing
11450s	their first match uh they will be able
11453s	to at least hold on until next weekend
11456s	when they will be playing for uh seeing
11460s	who actually uh ends up going into the
11463s	glance I gamble but the time being they
11466s	have taken down literally triggered in a
11469s	what twitch chat thinks is a major upset
11471s	75 to 25 in terms of Channel points and
11475s	test Alliance please ignore uh hats off
11479s	to you you did very well this match yeah
11481s	they did really really well played it
11482s	exactly the way they need to like you
11484s	said earlier they went through the
11485s	bottom they went through the back end
11486s	and the lower end of their uh of the
11489s	literally triggered I cannot say that
11491s	literally triggered comp I cleaned out
11493s	all of that application all that support
11495s	and then all they had to do was DPS race
11498s	the top end and they it looked sketchy
11501s	for a second but man oh man that
11502s	Hyperion with the large blasters has so
11505s	much potential damage all they had to do
11507s	was clear out the the frick logic
11508s	there's not much on grid that's gonna be
11510s	able to deal with a full face a face
11512s	full of hot neutrons like the the
11516s	Hyperion can apply
11518s	yeah just I mean test Alliance please
11520s	ignore I mean they found the reload on
11522s	the AAR for saldarius that's what won
11524s	them this match because they take down
11526s	the Tempest Fleet issue and I want to
11527s	come to overall DPS uh the Abba and the
11530s	Armageddon Navy have better sustained
11532s	DPS just because they're uh aren't
11534s	dealing with rapid heavy reloads in fact
11536s	neither of those ships have to reload uh
11538s	the way that they are running them but
11540s	at the same time they can't kill
11541s	anything and test Alliance please ignore
11543s	I was a dual rap armaged Navy issue
11545s	which I didn't think was something
11547s	people would run and I assume this being
11549s	Tesla's a dual rep Hyperion as well so
11551s	uh getting the bait tanks off getting
11553s	the AR reloads off really really nice
11556s	showing from the top end Pilots of test
11560s	Alliance please ignore they're gonna
11561s	take down this Magus and maybe the apple
11563s	with two minutes remaining in the match
11565s	but for the time being and we might
11569s	actually see no more kills for the rest
11570s	of the match Well yeah if you look over
11572s	to the side you can see the Armageddon
11574s	Navy issue of one two one burning
11577s	furiously for the boundary Mark looking
11580s	to sacrifice himself to Bob and and
11583s	honestly fair I understand the uh the
11585s	appeal no but you're not taking the mjd
11587s	out I know it's not the Edge of Glory if
11590s	you're not trying to break the record
11592s	Grant you you can't really do that in a
11594s	slow ship but uh you know he he could
11597s	try we do like the 116 off yeah for sure
11600s	we do we do like the enthusiasm and uh
11603s	letting the match go a little bit
11605s	quicker as this really was a massive
11608s	stalemate Michael renov finally goes
11611s	down and one two one you're only setting
11614s	116 off the center of the Arena now 115
11617s	off wait is he is he burning back
11620s	no Act of Glory for him what is going on
11623s	he sees the laws
11625s	boundaries he's looking at mullets
11628s	I I demand curspplosions I demand your
11632s	ship being blown up and all your crew
11634s	members dying because you decided to
11636s	boundary uh but no instead ship's gonna
11639s	blow up and all the crew members die uh
11641s	for the pawn effects and one two one
11643s	will live because they can't kill them
11645s	in the next 37 seconds I won for one
11649s	salute you test Alliance please ignore
11650s	and say one two one you should have gone
11653s	for the boundary man yeah really well
11655s	played test uh glad to see them pull
11657s	this one out it was an exciting exciting
11659s	match unfortunately our friends from
11661s	literally triggered are eliminated they
11665s	do go home but test advances again 2023
11669s	test Alliance pulling it out pretty
11671s	impressive excited to see that so
11674s	excited to see uh the you know how they
11677s	do next or in our matches in in August
11679s	rather uh and with five seconds
11682s	remaining we will send it back to the
11685s	desk one more time for CCP overload Baza
11688s	and bbp we don't have one match left so
11690s	stick around for that one
11694s	[Music]
11699s	foreign
11704s	[Music]
11723s	[Music]
11733s	foreign
11735s	[Music]
11752s	[Music]
11768s	there you have it test the lines please
11770s	ignore not to be ignored they knock uh
11772s	literally triggered out of Alliance
11774s	tournament 19 contention uh in a
11777s	hard-fought match they came in earlier
11778s	on today against barcode with an
11780s	on-demand comp only nine got pretty
11783s	handily torn apart uh but in the last
11787s	couple of hours since then they have
11788s	gone away they've had a solid think
11790s	about what they want to achieve and
11792s	they've come back and put together a
11793s	pretty excellent showing securing
11796s	themselves at appearance next weekend
11798s	can they make it through to one of those
11800s	final slots in Alliance tournament 19
11802s	who knows we will certainly see next
11804s	weekend we have one more match for you
11806s	today which is another elimination match
11808s	but first let's go through some of the
11811s	results from today so our first two
11813s	matches where elimination matches we saw
11815s	snuffed out continue to keep the dream
11817s	Alive by knocking out kitchen sinkhole
11819s	and then we saw no vacancies taking that
11821s	elusive wormholler win over the
11823s	initiative and sending initiative back
11825s	to wherever they live now I don't know
11827s	if it's still fountain uh then we went
11829s	into uh win and in matches and it was
11832s	barcode who's triumph over test Alliance
11835s	please ignore tell doomsday who knocked
11837s	literally triggered into this bracket uh
11840s	in video Glory Glory comes got uh
11842s	dumpstered essentially by white squall
11845s	um and then Rusty Hyena's Clan took a
11847s	solid victory over Hull control in a
11849s	very exciting match then we saw Tampa's
11851s	calsuff uh win and in against High SEC
11854s	miners we took a short break and we came
11856s	back to see Exodus uh forgo their normal
11859s	uh kiting meta and bring a hardcore
11862s	armor control comp which they used to
11865s	great effect against cast about securing
11867s	themselves entry into alliance
11869s	tournament 19. plug and play then went
11871s	up against ye pray love and one of the
11873s	most exciting matches of the day uh Plug
11875s	and Play managed to pull it out and send
11878s	yeat pray love into the uh the lower
11880s	brackets and secure themselves a spot in
11883s	uh the main tournament in August finally
11886s	we just saw test Alliance please ignore
11888s	take that W over literally triggered and
11891s	keep the dream alive as well and one
11893s	more match today will be in video Gloria
11895s	comes versus whole control let's start
11898s	let's go straight to the bands for this
11901s	particular matchup so Nvidia Gloria
11903s	comes Banning out the lucchesis and the
11905s	curse whereas Hull control Banning out
11907s	the Loki and the Scimitar as a lechis is
11911s	bad interesting one foreign
11913s	on the stream but according to what you
11915s	just said yeah the Jesus is an
11916s	interesting one we did see it once today
11918s	I think it was templates that filled
11919s	with it in that um battle cruiser spam
11921s	comp
11922s	um that they had I'm generally not a fan
11924s	but it worked out for them but for me
11926s	the logistics is just a little bit too
11927s	expensive for their offers
11929s	yeah the bands on the screen are indeed
11931s	wrong there are the bands for the last
11932s	match
11933s	um the correct bands are the ones I read
11935s	out which is igc Banning the Chase's
11937s	curse and Hull control Banning Loki and
11939s	Scimitar like my pirate any thoughts on
11941s	these bands from you
11943s	uh I think that like the bands are super
11945s	interesting but at the end of the day I
11947s	really really hoped in the last couple
11949s	hours Nvidia Gloria found four more
11951s	pilots because six is not a very good
11954s	number of people to go into these
11955s	matches with so
11957s	yeah you're always going to be
11958s	struggling with uh you know just sex
11961s	Pilots especially with the other team
11962s	has the full 10.
11964s	um I feel like that latissis ban uh if
11967s	you're bringing sex is pretty solid
11969s	because that Jesus could probably damp
11971s	down your whole team and just you know
11974s	the amount of control that would land on
11975s	you would be unfathomable with only sex
11978s	Pilots so yeah this this is them
11980s	signaling that they're going to give it
11981s	a good crack and I so they're on I'm
11983s	always appreciative that they're not
11985s	teams aren't just pulling out uh I hope
11987s	to see some sort of interesting crazy
11989s	tactics maybe they can pull it out maybe
11991s	it'll be a huge upset on Twitch Channel
11993s	points over a million of of them going
11997s	on to a whole control right now 1.25 and
12000s	Rising so you know good opportunity to
12003s	get those points in on igc maybe get a
12005s	10x return on them if you're uh if
12007s	you're brave enough all right so for the
12010s	final time uh let's head over to the
12012s	arena uh for this match between Nvidia
12015s	Gloria comes and whole control with the
12017s	cast
12025s	welcome back folks it is of course me
12028s	Mark resurrect is back for the last time
12030s	today with my good friend fear Vina and
12033s	we have oh boy another 6v10 sorry Bart
12037s	they did not find four more pilots for
12039s	our friends from Whole control we have
12041s	Drake Navy duel Drake Navy plus FC did
12045s	allow uh humpokowska to bring his Drake
12048s	recyclone Osprey caracal Navy dual
12050s	caracal navies rather oh and I Scythe
12053s	Fleet and Crow and what do we have in
12055s	this six-man comp from igc
12059s	uh well we have a ham Nighthawk mixed
12061s	with an rhml bar guest so this is going
12063s	to be a lot of fun they have a hugin and
12065s	maybe get some range control but this is
12067s	going to be really difficult for them up
12068s	against the Shield Rush setup that we
12070s	saw nearly win versus Shield kite last
12072s	time around from hole control although
12074s	they are cutting back both of these
12076s	teams another one wanting to commit
12078s	quite yet uh this is actually not a kite
12081s	back though I think from the side of
12084s	whole control they're burning for the
12085s	mjd beacon and they're gonna try to mjd
12087s	right on top of igc we're also burning
12090s	for their mjd Beacon yeah I'm not quite
12093s	sure what's happening here very
12096s	interesting situation
12099s	uh uh I'm looking at the whole control
12102s	team they are just sitting on the June
12106s	the unit they're turning back around for
12108s	the for the jump sure
12111s	I just I don't I I mean I get it I
12114s	understand listen the beacons are very
12116s	cool I love the jump animation and it do
12118s	make you go very fast uh we got a couple
12121s	of bumps there as they were moving in
12122s	towards the center Beacon though oh that
12125s	might not be great
12128s	you're facing a 10 or a six-man team
12131s	that has a Nighthawk and mixed in there
12134s	too I I think you can just tell
12136s	no they actually didn't activate the
12138s	beacon they're just sitting on it what
12139s	what is going on is this is this what
12142s	collusion looks like I feel like there's
12143s	some collusion activity happening here
12145s	this is very strange situation there but
12148s	on opposite ends of the uh of the Arena
12151s	they're just looking at each other
12158s	okay finally look down here we have some
12160s	action the hugin of Nvidia starting to
12165s	pull away okay they were starting to
12167s	move up starting to get some a little
12169s	bit of action going this a little bit a
12170s	little bit of you know just kind of
12172s	shaking away they're getting away from a
12174s	micro jump unit that is what is
12176s	important I think I think they might be
12178s	going yes I can see it now they are
12180s	moving to the other micro jump unit
12184s	the movement to the upper one I just
12187s	what is going on it's Shield rush just
12190s	rush them they have two they have two
12193s	tackle mods on their entire team in a
12196s	scrim from the bar guest and a web from
12199s	the hugin yeah I'll tell you the truth
12201s	I've read about this now listen this is
12204s	very important I've read about this
12205s	before I believe this is what the kids
12207s	call a troll
12209s	is what was happening here
12212s	Mark Mark you can't do Mark you you took
12216s	whole control I did I did
12218s	you see hole control moving ships right
12221s	now fear by now I'm not those points are
12224s	still good okay they're doing great
12226s	they're playing they're like are they
12228s	intentionally just going through England
12230s	you cannot understand the thickness in
12235s	the folds of the wormholer brain fear
12237s	vinyl
12238s	you've got grasp the intellect right
12241s	here aren't you afraid whole control is
12244s	gonna kill your cat or something I'm
12245s	afraid of nothing I have no fear and
12248s	here they go look wait wait wait
12251s	bushes finally oh let's go yes here we
12256s	go
12257s	on this bar guest first yes we got some
12261s	action and almost four minutes into the
12264s	match the Drake is about 30k oh my God
12268s	actually they're gonna Juan modest in
12270s	the nightmare first but oh my God that
12272s	just took way too long yes yes very good
12277s	I mean look you know like I said earlier
12280s	is speed around we're having fun black
12283s	Bart pirate is just coping in their back
12285s	channels right now how bad these teams
12287s	are look everybody's having a good time
12289s	they're just happy what time it goes to
12290s	the Osprey
12292s	looks like you saw the ham Nighthawk
12294s	Burgess tonight mayor their control
12296s	they're uh their attack bar isn't as
12299s	girthy but as this nightmare finally
12301s	goes down uh once again they brought a
12303s	basilisk which should have enough
12304s	roughing power but doesn't because there
12306s	is just a lot of ham from the side of
12309s	whole control they're going for table
12311s	now in this Osprey Navy issue he doesn't
12313s	have an active rep and his logic is dead
12315s	so table will go down but they will
12317s	trade for this bar guest who is now the
12319s	primary target from hole control yeah
12321s	I'd say uh an Oni for a Bargas is a
12324s	pretty decent trade I have heard you
12326s	should never trust a basilisk I people
12328s	are saying that I think it's very
12329s	interesting but yeah we'll see the the
12331s	uh the Bargas of iulama Ivanov go down
12334s	uh right about the same time that uh
12337s	that Osprey does as well which will
12339s	leave not and not much left uh in terms
12343s	of DPS just just a ham Nighthawk that's
12347s	it yeah yeah but they do have a hugin
12350s	you know so they can fly there's some
12351s	African Jacob fretwell on the Basilisk
12354s	now uh and he gets deleted yeah yeah
12357s	they had a web and a paint on their uh
12360s	Team
12361s	uh as we saw there's also a web and a
12364s	paint from the hugun Jack old man but
12367s	it's onto a crow right now there's 11 on
12369s	his Fleet Scythe but let's see you again
12371s	now the target from uh hole control I
12374s	think they were trying for a cheeky
12375s	boost play into 100 to zero did not work
12378s	out for them it's gonna be 100 to 16. as
12380s	I finally move on to the stork and the
12382s	Nighthawk Nvidia Gloria comes I mean
12385s	once again respect to them for showing
12386s	up on demand uh it is very difficult to
12390s	do uh that if you but it is respectable
12393s	just showing up and playing uh at
12395s	hopefully you had fun uh for these
12399s	feeder rounds and for the preparation it
12402s	took to get here but when it's all said
12404s	and done whole control we're gonna move
12405s	on to the next round as the stork Falls
12408s	next to the nightclubs and Nvidia Gloria
12410s	comes gets knocked out of the at feeders
12414s	that's it for us for today tune in next
12418s	Saturday to see more of me and Mark
12420s	resurrectus uh on separate casting Duos
12423s	but first we're gonna send it back to
12425s	the desk to end our broadcast bye
12428s	everybody
12432s	foreign
12436s	[Music]
12444s	are you gonna armor Vagabond or
12446s	something no um I've got axle ISP
12451s	and polarized guns
12459s	kasig you you are one of two people that
12463s	couldn't listen and couldn't check
12465s	bookmarks and find your own way out the
12467s	route the entire route was literally
12469s	bookmarked out to Lasik I bookmarked the
12472s	10 minutes in advance
12474s	guys stop being casual they're really
12476s	bad we should not lose anybody to this
12479s	warp off warp off take the fleet warp
12481s	everybody warp off this is a really
12482s	really bad execution I'm very
12484s	disappointed
12490s	well there you have it in a match uh we
12494s	see Hall controls securing their
12496s	continued survival a little bit longer
12498s	uh against uh Nvidia Glory comes and it
12503s	it was it was certainly something to
12504s	watch I'll tell you that uh it's been a
12506s	long time since I've seen a match quite
12509s	like that where at the start both teams
12510s	just are in the opposite direction and
12512s	just kind of camp out and just say hey
12514s	how's things
12516s	um I I don't really know what else to
12519s	say about that match it was uh it was it
12520s	was fun to watch if not a bit puzzling I
12522s	do want to say thank you very much to
12524s	the igc guys uh their captain in local
12526s	uh you know tell everyone say have fun
12528s	uh you know we're having fun I hope you
12530s	guys are having fun as well we are
12532s	certainly uh I enjoyed that match uh for
12534s	if not at least sheer entertainment
12536s	value uh so you know GF to igc uh so you
12540s	know guys feel free to spam GF igc in
12543s	twitch chat because I think they deserve
12544s	it for for that that display uh
12547s	Blackberry pirate any any thoughts on on
12549s	that match we just saw
12551s	no kind of the same thing you said I
12553s	mean sort of looking back at last year's
12555s	feeders right we had so many teams just
12558s	drop out and not show up and I remember
12560s	our day one unlike the captain's cup we
12563s	had so many teams drop out and we had
12565s	like four matches on our first day so
12567s	you know huge crops to igc for showing
12569s	up and he props to every single team for
12571s	the feeders like everybody's showing up
12572s	and they're trying which is really
12575s	really nice because at the end of the
12576s	day it's about spaceship explosions for
12577s	everybody to watch right it's I mean to
12580s	them it's about winning but for the rest
12581s	of us we're here to watch people and you
12584s	know say oh that was such a good player
12586s	oh wow look how terrible you guys are so
12588s	yeah I mean I really appreciate the fact
12590s	that they showed up they tried they got
12592s	some kills too I mean you know that
12594s	could have actually gone a little
12595s	differently if they had had like one
12596s	more ship I think hold control might
12597s	have actually lost so uh you know who
12600s	knows
12600s	yeah I mean the end of the day
12602s	experience is experience uh back in the
12604s	olden days before the Thunderdome server
12606s	if you wanted to do this not only did
12607s	you have to put money in to get into the
12610s	tournament in the first place uh there
12612s	was no such thing as a theater you had
12613s	to Plex played in just full stop
12615s	everyone did
12617s	um and then you would lose your ships
12620s	for real on on TQ you could only fly
12623s	what you had the the skill points to fly
12624s	so if you were like a Alliance composed
12627s	of younger Pilots with less experienced
12628s	people that wanted to play they were
12630s	kind of relegated into small ships and
12632s	probably wouldn't be able to fly them
12633s	optimally compared to some people with
12634s	you know 150 plus million skill points
12637s	whereas here on Thunderdome we have this
12639s	fantastic opportunity for teams who want
12642s	to give it a go to you know give it a go
12645s	there is literally no down inside uh you
12647s	get to see yourself on the television uh
12649s	you get to uh you know shoot some people
12651s	in space and the experience for it's
12653s	like to be in a tournament 100 it's
12655s	we're in such a healthy state for for
12657s	new teams to come in right now I'm I'm
12659s	super happy
12660s	um any any highlight matches from today
12662s	before we wrap up
12664s	uh let me just look back at the schedule
12666s	to remind myself of what we saw I mean
12668s	the rusty hyenas one with whole control
12669s	was very very close that one was very
12671s	close on points I think it was 71.69 at
12674s	the end or something that one could have
12676s	gone either way all the way through that
12677s	was that was quite a nail biter
12679s	[Music]
12680s	um
12680s	and I quite liked
12682s	um the barcode match as well I thought
12685s	they were
12686s	they look pretty good
12688s	awesome and uh bar anything any
12690s	highlights you saw today from you
12693s	uh not particularly um I think that
12696s	honestly the Test match was pretty good
12698s	and uh as is tradition and I'm sure that
12702s	at some point it'll happen again
12704s	everybody likes to you know take dumps
12706s	on test Alliance um the entire game has
12708s	been actually doing it for several years
12711s	now so there's me doing it right there
12713s	uh so it's actually good to see that you
12715s	know at the very least maybe on TQ
12717s	they're having some trouble but hey they
12718s	made it they won one match in the
12720s	feeders if they win one more then
12722s	they're in the actually T which is going
12723s	to be better than what like half of
12726s	these teams so you know that's that's a
12728s	start like good job Tess they actually
12730s	flew a kind of interesting setup and
12731s	they won so hey across to them Nutley
12735s	dead indeed uh so we will be back next
12737s	weekend uh on Saturday first match is at
12740s	1700 Eve time uh and not only do we have
12744s	a couple of the elimination matches but
12746s	we have some more win and in fresh round
12748s	matches for teams we have yet to see
12750s	teams such as laser Hawks teams such as
12752s	pandemic Legion uh we're going to see
12754s	Rock Coppell uh and bright side of death
12757s	there's a whole bunch of exciting teams
12759s	that usually try and sort of scoot in by
12762s	buying in with Plex or having to face
12764s	this Gauntlet so some excellent
12766s	excellent games coming out I have to
12767s	interrupt you you neglected to mention
12769s	one particular team that's going to be
12771s	taking part next Saturday
12774s	that would be the hidden Leaf Village
12776s	Ninja Assassin Squad Esports team team
12779s	I see
12781s	yeah to make sure we were you know at
12783s	least you've read be sure to tune in for
12785s	that this time yeah when you were
12787s	casting and didn't bother I was like
12789s	it's Canon there no one needs to bother
12791s	reading the whole name all right I have
12793s	been CCP Overlord I joined on the desk
12795s	by of course the Basilisk we've had some
12797s	incredible casters uh joining us today
12799s	we've had their own valorax uh uh
12802s	firovina Mark resurrectus
12805s	um I think that was obvious of course in
12807s	the background we have some people like
12809s	brj who's been running the stream doing
12811s	all of the stuff CP convict who is
12813s	pushing the buttons for twitch Channel
12814s	points when he remembers uh we have uh
12817s	discreet error who's been doing all the
12819s	uh the graphics and the band stuff for
12820s	us and of course we have had a host of
12823s	refs helping us uh from CP zealous who
12826s	is basically managing things in the
12828s	background to a number of GMS uh who
12831s	gave up their free time this weekend to
12833s	come along and click the buttons and
12834s	teleport people around uh sought Russell
12837s	from anger games of course was there
12838s	helping us out as well thank you very
12840s	much everyone and thank you of course to
12843s	the teams and the participants that have
12845s	taken part it is always a pleasure to
12847s	watch you guys blow each other in space
12849s	and I cannot wait to see more next
12851s	weekend
12853s	all right
12856s	foreign

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