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| 1s | so a riddle seems like a good place to |
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| 3s | start |
| 4s | seeing as i plan on confusing you for |
| 6s | the entire talk i might as well start |
| 8s | with the riddle |
| 9s | now the sphinx's riddle in case you |
| 12s | don't have a classical education was |
| 14s | uh what walks on four legs in the |
| 17s | morning |
| 18s | on two legs in the afternoon and on |
| 20s | three legs in the evening |
| 23s | and |
| 24s | i'll get to the answer if you don't know |
| 26s | that one it's so old and classic it's |
| 28s | been used a thousand times but i got a |
| 30s | new one for you what's full of bugs in |
| 32s | the morning |
| 34s | sand and salt at noon and empty in the |
| 36s | evening |
| 41s | being a forum warrior if i don't put a |
| 43s | definition up i lose my membership card |
| 46s | in the forum so i had to put up what |
| 48s | longevity is |
| 50s | longevity has a couple of meanings but |
| 52s | mainly |
| 53s | i'm going to be flashing between them |
| 55s | i'm not consistent |
| 57s | i'm redundant and repetitive but not |
| 59s | consistent so |
| 61s | knowing what |
| 63s | longevity is when you're talking about a |
| 65s | living thing is it's lifespan |
| 68s | on the other hand when you're talking |
| 70s | about |
| 71s | something like a game |
| 73s | it's also lifespan but it's not an alive |
| 75s | thing it's just how long does it last |
| 82s | so living things have quite a lifespan |
| 84s | and it really spans through uh depending |
| 87s | on what species you are |
| 89s | it has numbers there there's people |
| 91s | there somewhere |
| 92s | where are they |
| 95s | 80. yeah that's |
| 98s | the thing is it's not a set lifespan |
| 102s | you know i mean that it's you don't come |
| 105s | with you are going to live exactly 80 |
| 108s | years |
| 109s | that would make for really interesting |
| 111s | gaming hey bob i'd love to come to |
| 113s | structure bash next week but i'm going |
| 114s | to be dead |
| 116s | you know |
| 117s | we don't know when our expiry date is |
| 120s | i'm pretty sure i have a best before |
| 122s | date and i'm past that |
| 125s | but not an expiry date |
| 130s | so |
| 131s | some species |
| 133s | it's not locked down to a set number |
| 137s | that is an ocean quahog |
| 139s | it was found off the coast of the island |
| 141s | we happen to be on right now |
| 144s | they now normally they can last up to |
| 146s | 400 years the one they found was |
| 149s | 507 years old |
| 152s | they found that out by killing it |
| 155s | and then counting the rings |
| 157s | so if they hadn't discovered it it might |
| 159s | have made 508 years old |
| 163s | but they found it and want to know how |
| 165s | old it is and the easiest way to find |
| 166s | out how old some things it's like trees |
| 168s | or me my students used to ask how old |
| 171s | are you miss mr dawn i'd say well that's |
| 173s | easy you're going to have to cut me in |
| 175s | half and count the rings |
| 177s | they didn't get that one |
| 181s | so you've got this thing that has lasted |
| 183s | forever |
| 184s | on the floor of the ocean |
| 187s | just sitting there hard shells set in |
| 190s | its ways probably complains about crabs |
| 192s | null sec |
| 198s | then you got a mayfly |
| 200s | 24-hour life span |
| 204s | it's kind of like wake up grow up have |
| 208s | wings |
| 209s | fly around maybe get swatted maybe make |
| 211s | it your full 24 hours this is a rookie |
| 215s | because we have people who start playing |
| 217s | this game and die |
| 219s | or quit |
| 221s | or are disappointed and find it wasn't |
| 223s | what they expected because they want to |
| 225s | know how do i win and will it take |
| 227s | longer than then this afternoon |
| 231s | and they don't get the fact that this is |
| 233s | a really long game |
| 235s | we're this guy |
| 237s | not this guy |
| 240s | so the life expectancy of the game seems |
| 243s | to have two different uh versions |
| 245s | we have the people who are in it for the |
| 248s | long term |
| 250s | and then we have the mayflies who come |
| 252s | flapping in |
| 253s | and |
| 254s | ccp does the stats i found yesterday in |
| 258s | the opening |
| 260s | ceremony the scariest stat that they |
| 262s | gave i don't know you guys saw the |
| 264s | opening ceremony was that 57 |
| 267s | percent stat do you remember that one |
| 271s | 57 percent of the players right now |
| 274s | weren't playing four years ago |
| 278s | i mean i feel like i'm only middle-aged |
| 281s | in the game and i'm 13 years in |
| 285s | balls and i'm finding out i'm methuselah |
| 288s | yeah |
| 289s | wow mister you've been playing longer |
| 292s | than this week |
| 294s | oh god child go away |
| 300s | they make me feel old but then i are old |
| 304s | so |
| 306s | we want to try to bridge these guys to |
| 308s | these guys |
| 311s | and in a game |
| 313s | when you're playing a computer game |
| 315s | these guys uh the modern generations |
| 318s | raised with that fortnight you start |
| 320s | playing and you're done 15 minutes later |
| 322s | whenever that damn zone gets to zero |
| 324s | where everybody else dies |
| 326s | they're used to games that are on a very |
| 328s | very short time scale |
| 330s | and it's hard for an eve player to |
| 333s | explain to them |
| 334s | what the long time scale is what we're |
| 337s | playing it's like we're playing two |
| 339s | different life spans |
| 341s | so when we talk about longevity |
| 344s | sometimes we're just trying to turn |
| 345s | these people into the quahog |
| 348s | you know we're trying to get them to |
| 350s | realize that you have a much longer play |
| 352s | in this game and it's not win all the |
| 354s | things today |
| 356s | you won't |
| 360s | but mike you might say |
| 363s | if you knew who i was |
| 366s | almost everybody introduces themselves |
| 367s | at the middle i usually like to get |
| 369s | started and then do the introduction so |
| 371s | i should tell you who i am |
| 373s | i'm mike azaria |
| 375s | i drive operation magic school bus i'll |
| 377s | explain that in a second and i've served |
| 379s | five terms on the csm oh don't get too |
| 382s | close to the mic |
| 389s | the joke i did last time i was in csm |
| 392s | eight nine and ten later acknowledged at |
| 394s | some of the worst csm's ever but now |
| 396s | i've served in 14 and 15 where we had no |
| 399s | summits whatsoever so these were the |
| 401s | lesser ones of those |
| 403s | i have seen how the sausages are made |
| 407s | i have survived and it's funny if you |
| 409s | take a look at the history of the csm a |
| 411s | lot of people serve and then leave the |
| 413s | game |
| 415s | never to return |
| 417s | you know it's kind of like |
| 420s | longevity-wise |
| 421s | this is where you're picking out the |
| 422s | tombstone |
| 424s | i got to be on the csm |
| 426s | gone |
| 429s | so uh |
| 430s | i there are a few of us who are really |
| 432s | really stubborn steve ronikin i don't |
| 434s | know if he's here but if he is he's even |
| 437s | more fireproof than i am |
| 440s | you know |
| 440s | me we're the sphinxes |
| 443s | we stand around say things that nobody |
| 445s | understands and hope that that works |
| 447s | magic school bus one of the ways i keep |
| 449s | playing is i don't play eve the way a |
| 452s | lot of you do i wish i could and |
| 454s | occasionally i do go out i was just |
| 455s | talking about running abyssal space and |
| 457s | uh |
| 458s | you know |
| 459s | occasionally i do like to fly with |
| 461s | people like bombers bar when i can |
| 463s | but mainly i'm known for being a care |
| 465s | bearer |
| 467s | and i'm okay with that |
| 470s | operation magic school bus i set up |
| 472s | seven years ago |
| 474s | what i do is i fly to the career systems |
| 477s | all of them and hand out free fitted |
| 480s | ships to the new bros less than 30 days |
| 482s | old |
| 483s | and when i say fitted ships i don't mean |
| 485s | teaching them how to hit the get your |
| 487s | corvette button |
| 489s | if they're between zero and seven days i |
| 490s | give them a fitted frigate appropriate |
| 492s | to the region so if we're in a mars |
| 494s | space i give him a punisher if we're in |
| 496s | caldery it's a kestrel |
| 499s | you follow |
| 500s | if they're between seven and 20 days i |
| 503s | give him a fitted destroyer |
| 505s | same rules appropriate to the area and |
| 508s | between 20 and 30 days i give a fitted |
| 510s | cruiser |
| 512s | all they have to do is speak up and |
| 514s | local when the bus is in in the system |
| 518s | and i will stay there for about five |
| 520s | minutes |
| 521s | post in local post in rookie help chat |
| 524s | see who speaks up and it is amazing a |
| 526s | the number of people there can be 80 |
| 528s | people and local not a single person |
| 530s | speaks up |
| 532s | then you'll get one person at the four |
| 533s | minute mark |
| 535s | what's the scam |
| 538s | ah |
| 540s | i see you're a person of distinction who |
| 542s | understands what eve is |
| 545s | i would like to explain to you that i'm |
| 546s | not a scam the problem is a scammer |
| 549s | would say that |
| 552s | so i ask them tell me what words that i |
| 554s | could use to convince you that i'm not a |
| 556s | scam |
| 557s | if a scammer can say the same damn thing |
| 561s | they go don't know must be a scam |
| 565s | okay |
| 566s | well maybe if you talk up and i give you |
| 568s | a ship and you try to figure out where |
| 570s | i'm taking something from you no it's |
| 572s | probably a trap |
| 576s | what kind of trap you're going to shoot |
| 577s | me |
| 579s | what's stopping me from shooting you |
| 580s | right now |
| 582s | you're not docked |
| 584s | and i can find you |
| 587s | the only safe place in this system is |
| 589s | where i am |
| 590s | don't make me come and find you |
| 594s | so they um eventually some doc and i do |
| 597s | do that and i've had a lot of feedback |
| 599s | the |
| 599s | best thing i get is when somebody tells |
| 602s | me |
| 603s | i got a ship from you five years ago and |
| 606s | i still have it |
| 608s | yeah |
| 609s | you've got one |
| 612s | or or also i get people who bring their |
| 615s | alts in and they're trying to figure out |
| 617s | what the scam is so they'll pretend that |
| 619s | they're newbies i can tell half the time |
| 621s | because the first thing they do is they |
| 623s | get the ship and uh 15 seconds later |
| 625s | nice fit |
| 627s | a newbie would not say that man they'd |
| 630s | go wow the guns are there but they're |
| 633s | not loaded it's in the hold |
| 637s | you know |
| 638s | you have ammo i gave you ammo actually |
| 640s | gave you faction ammo |
| 644s | not a lot but enough for them to get out |
| 646s | they need all the help they can get |
| 648s | you know before they have their skills |
| 650s | up you're looking at a frigate that's |
| 652s | doing 60 to 65 dps |
| 656s | great for a level one but anything else |
| 658s | so i give them faction ammo a couple |
| 660s | hundred rounds you know it's not that |
| 662s | big a thing |
| 664s | i also rigged the ships |
| 667s | to blow up |
| 668s | no i rig them so they're less apt to |
| 671s | sell them |
| 672s | and then think that they've won |
| 675s | you know because when they go to sell it |
| 676s | they have to strip it and then it says |
| 678s | if you strip it you'll be destroying |
| 680s | valuable modules well i don't want to do |
| 682s | that i guess i'll just have to keep it |
| 686s | i give them the ship um to show them a |
| 688s | you should be talking to people this is |
| 690s | an mmo there's lots of people in the |
| 691s | game talk to them |
| 694s | eve sucks as a solo game |
| 698s | you know you can do it and the horrible |
| 700s | thing is i say that |
| 702s | i'm in scope |
| 704s | i've been an npc |
| 707s | and a solo player for over seven years |
| 709s | because part of being and i get |
| 711s | recruitment from people and i go no i |
| 712s | can't join you |
| 714s | because doing the bus means i have to |
| 716s | come across as |
| 718s | neutral |
| 720s | you know i mean i can't have a favor i |
| 722s | can't say by the way now that you've got |
| 724s | a free ship join my beautiful alliance |
| 729s | which also makes this amazing |
| 731s | i'm one of the few csms who got elected |
| 734s | without any backing from any of the null |
| 736s | sec organizations |
| 738s | you |
| 743s | know so that's who i is |
| 746s | i even got my i like this shot that |
| 749s | actually is the bus the bus in case you |
| 750s | didn't know is a bow head |
| 752s | because i have to be able to move the |
| 754s | bloody ships to the various stops |
| 756s | sometimes i fly something smaller faster |
| 758s | i love the leopard |
| 759s | it's expensive and i'm always worried |
| 762s | about losing it but man when i just want |
| 764s | to stop at all the systems real fast and |
| 766s | give something out it's nice to be doing |
| 767s | 20 a.u a second |
| 770s | you know on the jump |
| 773s | so |
| 773s | because i'm old and because i'm talking |
| 775s | to lifespan that sort of thing i have a |
| 777s | hospital story for you |
| 779s | and it will connect in but just put up |
| 782s | with an old man telling you about his |
| 784s | time in the hospital okay |
| 786s | humor the old man |
| 789s | so um |
| 791s | a couple years ago in the middle of |
| 792s | covid |
| 794s | i got my second diagnosis of cancer went |
| 796s | through uh chemotherapy |
| 799s | came out the other side |
| 801s | lovely having your immunosystem |
| 803s | compromised completely during a pandemic |
| 806s | but that's not the hospital story |
| 808s | afterwards i start having a blood clots |
| 810s | because of the chemotherapy but that's |
| 812s | also not where this is going what's |
| 814s | going is i was really weak from the |
| 816s | chemotherapy so i started trying to do |
| 818s | exercise just doing walking going out |
| 820s | and mowing the lawn that sort of thing i |
| 823s | found that when i did that my left arm |
| 825s | started aching |
| 827s | i thought another bloody blood clot oh |
| 830s | man |
| 831s | so i call my doctor my doctor says left |
| 833s | arm yeah he says yeah i'm going to make |
| 836s | some calls and i'm going to get you to |
| 838s | see some a specialist real fast real |
| 840s | fast for him was within three days |
| 844s | i saw a cardiologist cardiologist booked |
| 846s | me and put me on the treadmill i started |
| 848s | walking i was told treadmill takes about |
| 850s | half an hour two minutes you off |
| 852s | sit over there quietly i thought it was |
| 855s | going to take a half hour not for you |
| 858s | this was on a monday he said i hope you |
| 860s | don't have a lot of plans for this week |
| 861s | you're going to be busy |
| 863s | by friday i was in the hospital again to |
| 866s | get my heart worked on |
| 868s | turns out it wasn't blood clots it was |
| 870s | my heart was given out |
| 875s | expiry date |
| 877s | so |
| 878s | the thing is with heart surgery is |
| 881s | they put you in but they don't tell you |
| 883s | what time the surgery is going to be |
| 886s | so it's just checking in the morning at |
| 888s | eight o'clock in the morning no food |
| 890s | you've done all sorts of nasty things to |
| 892s | your body the day before to be ready for |
| 894s | surgery you're starving wait in this bed |
| 897s | with the curtains drawn around you so |
| 899s | you can take your mask off |
| 901s | and we'll come and get you |
| 903s | fine |
| 905s | and i'm texting to my wife |
| 908s | and the phone batteries dying faster |
| 911s | than i am and so |
| 916s | and so |
| 917s | all of a sudden i'm dozing in between |
| 919s | that stress trying to kill time |
| 922s | should i use that phrase |
| 925s | anyways i'm lying there and all sudden i |
| 927s | hear mike mike look at me mike mike |
| 931s | i'm going |
| 933s | there's nobody around me |
| 935s | and i hear the voice going i think he's |
| 937s | crashing get the cart |
| 939s | have you called the doctor gam stat get |
| 941s | him stat mike mike mike can you hear us |
| 944s | yes i know you're in pain mike mike stay |
| 946s | with us |
| 949s | and this is beginning to freak me out |
| 952s | because it occurs to me that you always |
| 954s | hear about these people dying and having |
| 957s | this out of body experience where it's |
| 958s | happening to somebody else |
| 961s | and they're just floating above watching |
| 963s | this |
| 964s | and i'm going am i supposed to be |
| 965s | fighting to answer |
| 968s | and i'm lying there and it takes about |
| 971s | 60 seconds for me to realize there's |
| 973s | another guy named mike in the bloody war |
| 978s | [Applause] |
| 981s | so you try to lie there |
| 984s | listening them to them yelling your name |
| 986s | over and over and talking about you |
| 988s | dying |
| 990s | not using the last name just mike |
| 993s | mike is crashing mike is bleeding into |
| 995s | his own heart mike is not doing well |
| 997s | mike mike stay with me mike mike oh god |
| 1001s | i'm |
| 1002s | this is not fun |
| 1005s | i text to my wife and i said it is time |
| 1007s | for me to go to my happy place |
| 1011s | i can disassociate myself which |
| 1014s | in retrospect is probably not the best |
| 1016s | thing to do when you're already worried |
| 1018s | about having an out-of-body experience |
| 1020s | i'm now going to leave my body |
| 1023s | mike but i kind of went i'm just going |
| 1026s | to shut off all the external i'm going |
| 1028s | to start ignoring people yelling mike |
| 1031s | and i'm just going to stay here |
| 1035s | and |
| 1036s | i zone out that's fine a few minutes |
| 1038s | later or half an hour later an hour |
| 1040s | later i have no idea someone says mr |
| 1042s | dawe it's time to go |
| 1045s | i'm looking for the light |
| 1048s | no it's just a little guy with a |
| 1050s | wheelchair going it's my turn for the |
| 1052s | surgery |
| 1053s | so off i went i never found out what |
| 1055s | happened to mike |
| 1057s | but my real name is mike by the way but |
| 1060s | um |
| 1062s | the concept of you're dying but you |
| 1065s | don't know it is a really scary one |
| 1068s | to a certain extent we're all mortal we |
| 1069s | are all dying |
| 1071s | but in longevity terms we don't have |
| 1073s | that expiry date |
| 1076s | do you ever are you guys old enough to |
| 1078s | worry about i could be dead and just |
| 1080s | haven't figured it out yet |
| 1085s | but mike when do you get to eve |
| 1089s | i just did |
| 1092s | games funny things games have life spans |
| 1095s | there's some that have lasted a long |
| 1097s | time |
| 1098s | that chess set uh comes from the 12th |
| 1101s | century |
| 1102s | it's in a museum in england |
| 1105s | it uh |
| 1107s | chess has lasted a long time you could |
| 1108s | probably go back 500 years or 400 years |
| 1111s | and play a game of chess with somebody |
| 1113s | and still agree on the rules |
| 1115s | that game has lasted |
| 1118s | you know there's other games i did |
| 1119s | research i was going to go off on a |
| 1121s | weird tangent i managed to hold myself |
| 1123s | back from that but think about board |
| 1125s | games that you played when you were a |
| 1126s | kid that don't even exist anymore i mean |
| 1129s | yes hungry hungry hippo exists and |
| 1131s | monopoly for some reason still exists |
| 1135s | but there are other board games that |
| 1137s | lasted you know for a very short period |
| 1140s | of time and they're now collector's |
| 1141s | items if you actually have all the |
| 1143s | pieces |
| 1144s | there's also games that you can play |
| 1146s | that lasted |
| 1149s | in a weird way only as until you solved |
| 1151s | them like how many of you have played |
| 1153s | tic-tac-toe |
| 1154s | recently |
| 1157s | i mean we know |
| 1158s | don't go you know where to start where |
| 1161s | not to start how to and if you have two |
| 1163s | people know how to play tic-tac-toe this |
| 1165s | is just a way to scribble lines on a |
| 1167s | piece of paper nobody's gonna win unless |
| 1169s | one of you is really really drunk |
| 1174s | so um what makes a game |
| 1177s | last |
| 1178s | what gives a game its lifespan its |
| 1181s | longevity |
| 1182s | now if i actually had a definitive |
| 1184s | answer for that |
| 1186s | i would be charging for this talk and |
| 1188s | ccp would be paying it |
| 1190s | you know so would a lot of other gaming |
| 1192s | companies |
| 1194s | because if you can actually boil down |
| 1196s | what makes a game last what gives it |
| 1198s | lifespan that would be phenomenal in the |
| 1201s | gaming industry |
| 1203s | but i don't have a definitive answer i |
| 1205s | don't have the right answer |
| 1207s | what i have is a few ideas so one of |
| 1209s | them's replayability |
| 1212s | like what if the game finishes or you |
| 1214s | play it do you want to play it again |
| 1216s | my daughter's notorious for that we do a |
| 1218s | lot of board games at home over the |
| 1220s | pandemic what else are you going to do |
| 1222s | so there are games we'd finish a |
| 1224s | two-hour game i want to play again |
| 1226s | we actually had rules so we played like |
| 1228s | pandemic legacy just so you only played |
| 1230s | once or twice a month but we played it |
| 1232s | for an entire year fun game |
| 1236s | so um but when you're playing or |
| 1239s | continuity of play |
| 1241s | how many of you played a computer game |
| 1243s | and also i'm looked out the window and |
| 1244s | realized that the sun is coming up and |
| 1246s | the birds are singing |
| 1249s | sieve |
| 1251s | god |
| 1254s | that one one more turn one more turn one |
| 1256s | more tweet tweet tweet oh |
| 1262s | uh challenge does the game engage you is |
| 1264s | it something that you actually feel like |
| 1266s | you're a part of that you get caught up |
| 1268s | in |
| 1270s | do do your choices matter |
| 1272s | i mean if you play a game like um |
| 1275s | just snakes and ladders |
| 1278s | you know it's roll the dice move the |
| 1280s | piece but there's absolutely no |
| 1282s | control that you have on the game that's |
| 1284s | going to make a difference it is just |
| 1286s | happening |
| 1288s | you could write a computer program to |
| 1290s | play monopoly it wouldn't be that hard |
| 1292s | you know it's buy all the property and |
| 1294s | charge every you know just what the best |
| 1296s | progress is and after that it's a pure |
| 1298s | luck game you might as well just roll |
| 1300s | 2d6 i rolled an 8. you rolled 12. you |
| 1303s | win okay |
| 1305s | what are we going to play now |
| 1306s | because it comes down to pure luck it's |
| 1308s | just stretching it out over way too much |
| 1310s | time so you can have a nice fight in |
| 1312s | your family |
| 1315s | it's nice to know that choice you makes |
| 1317s | makes a difference |
| 1319s | in eve the choices that we make do make |
| 1321s | a difference |
| 1322s | unless you're talking about fighting off |
| 1324s | the triglavians |
| 1328s | i was not happy with that okay just |
| 1331s | letting you know putting it out there |
| 1333s | that i don't like when if they tell me |
| 1336s | this is an event and it's going to |
| 1337s | happen and that wasn't the first time |
| 1339s | the first time was when they brought out |
| 1341s | dust 514 |
| 1343s | and they had the bite battle over the |
| 1346s | uh home system with the titan crashing |
| 1348s | into the planet and it was already |
| 1350s | preset but they didn't tell us that we |
| 1352s | thought we could stop this |
| 1355s | and then to find out that they actually |
| 1357s | released the graphic |
| 1358s | before the event even happened |
| 1361s | and it's like why are we fighting a |
| 1363s | battle when we know how it ends |
| 1366s | you know that was really frustrating |
| 1368s | because that's not eve |
| 1370s | eve has always been you make a bad |
| 1372s | choice |
| 1374s | you're going home in a pod or death |
| 1375s | express |
| 1376s | you make a good choice you may still go |
| 1378s | home in a pod but least wise you got |
| 1380s | somebody else with it |
| 1383s | you know the choices we make in the game |
| 1385s | make a difference who you trust who you |
| 1386s | play with |
| 1388s | who you fly with who you fly against all |
| 1389s | of these choices this game is complex |
| 1392s | because we have so many choices and the |
| 1394s | newbies the mayflies |
| 1396s | they have no concept of what they're |
| 1398s | getting into |
| 1400s | because they just want to find their |
| 1402s | version fortnite is your choices are |
| 1404s | which gun do you want and am i going to |
| 1407s | build a tower just try to hide and shoot |
| 1409s | everybody the choices are really |
| 1411s | binary and limited |
| 1413s | you give them a game like this and they |
| 1415s | got no concept of what's going on |
| 1418s | so choices do your choices matter |
| 1422s | now i wish there was a way to move the |
| 1424s | screen down because my notes go on so |
| 1426s | i'm going to skip a quote |
| 1428s | and later i'll have other quotes |
| 1431s | there are people who've been analyzing |
| 1433s | game choices for a long time and the |
| 1435s | funny thing is eve |
| 1439s | is uh this is the original box in case |
| 1441s | you don't know |
| 1444s | congratulations that's impressive |
| 1447s | this came out in 2003 |
| 1450s | ccp actually found a publisher |
| 1453s | uh simon and schuster interactive |
| 1456s | to publish her game and to market it |
| 1459s | unfortunately simon and schuster |
| 1461s | interactive closed about six months |
| 1463s | later |
| 1464s | so ccp had to promptly buy back their |
| 1467s | own ip intellectual property |
| 1470s | and um |
| 1472s | and go it alone |
| 1475s | which |
| 1476s | you gotta understand this was 2003. |
| 1481s | so they had mixed success 2003 everquest |
| 1485s | had been running for a year |
| 1487s | and it was doing pretty good uh our |
| 1490s | nickname for it was evercrack |
| 1493s | the birds are singing |
| 1498s | i've been i've killed flippy dark paw |
| 1501s | way too often okay |
| 1503s | if you've played everquest you know i'm |
| 1505s | talking about the rest of you just |
| 1506s | assume it's uh one of those uh |
| 1509s | things that you don't need to know |
| 1512s | but everquest was going strong but could |
| 1514s | you compete with it could sci-fi compete |
| 1516s | with fantasy |
| 1518s | was the market big enough to actually |
| 1520s | support more than one mmo wow hadn't had |
| 1524s | another year before it came out |
| 1526s | so eve was actually breaking new ground |
| 1529s | in a lot of ways trying for a 3d space |
| 1532s | game |
| 1533s | which pretty much didn't have a tutorial |
| 1535s | and it didn't |
| 1538s | like here's a spaceship good |
| 1540s | luck off you go |
| 1545s | so |
| 1546s | they mainly depended on the massive |
| 1548s | support of their players |
| 1551s | 2003 eve is dying |
| 1558s | [Applause] |
| 1564s | this was the first person to say it i |
| 1566s | actually did a search on this |
| 1569s | june of 2003 remember the game started |
| 1572s | uh may what was yesterday the |
| 1575s | 6th |
| 1576s | may 6th of 2003 in june it was declared |
| 1579s | to be dying |
| 1582s | wow |
| 1584s | i really want to know |
| 1586s | where that player went |
| 1588s | i wish i knew i did a check on eve |
| 1591s | killing that sort of thing |
| 1593s | no activity |
| 1596s | but you know |
| 1598s | i want to know how long they played |
| 1599s | after they declared the game was dead |
| 1602s | did they play with the corpse |
| 1605s | eve didn't die that year or the year |
| 1607s | after or quite a few years after we're |
| 1609s | standing i'm standing here you're |
| 1611s | sitting here celebrating the fact that |
| 1613s | we're not dead yet |
| 1616s | yet |
| 1619s | eve eve |
| 1621s | mike mike |
| 1624s | just in case you don't get the reference |
| 1627s | but i do want to know did that person |
| 1629s | find a game |
| 1632s | are they playing something else are they |
| 1634s | having fun |
| 1636s | or were they just one of those people |
| 1637s | who likes to hate everything and has |
| 1639s | have been since drifting from game to |
| 1641s | game hating each one declaring it dead |
| 1643s | and going on to the next one |
| 1647s | yeah |
| 1647s | may and that would be the mayfly rather |
| 1649s | than the quahog it's it's |
| 1652s | what did they find or were they just |
| 1654s | there are some people have you tried to |
| 1656s | introduce eve to some people and it |
| 1657s | doesn't take at all |
| 1660s | like they find it boring like i do not |
| 1663s | find this game boring but there are tons |
| 1664s | of people go this is a boring game and |
| 1666s | if they saw yesterday's keynote we're |
| 1668s | now totally associated with microsoft |
| 1671s | excel i'm going |
| 1680s | way to sell the game to the masses yes |
| 1682s | spread seats in space and now we just |
| 1684s | make it part of the keynote |
| 1686s | yay |
| 1692s | we've gone through sometimes |
| 1695s | i put that together a little while ago |
| 1697s | eve has had its ups and downs |
| 1700s | it's had some fantastic days and some |
| 1702s | days we wish just didn't happen or |
| 1704s | decisions that didn't happen massive |
| 1706s | crashes huge wars good decisions bad |
| 1709s | ones over 19 years you kind of expect |
| 1712s | that to happen |
| 1715s | trial and error means sometimes there's |
| 1717s | got to be air there are people who can |
| 1718s | probably look at this graph and say |
| 1720s | exactly what happened on that peak or on |
| 1724s | that valley they can say right there |
| 1726s | that was blackout |
| 1729s | right there that was m2 right there that |
| 1732s | was uh this is eve video man did that |
| 1735s | cause an influx of players |
| 1737s | i don't remember what happened when we |
| 1739s | set the |
| 1740s | mass of most people logged on the 65k |
| 1745s | or whatever i don't remember why we all |
| 1747s | logged on that day i just know we did |
| 1750s | i'm not one |
| 1752s | my memory is more may fly than quahog |
| 1757s | but i'm really impressed with the people |
| 1759s | who can look at this graph and say i |
| 1761s | know that i |
| 1762s | remember that i was there |
| 1765s | or i was there or if you just started |
| 1767s | you're somewhere over here that's okay |
| 1771s | but there are people who look at this |
| 1772s | graph and say there was a peak and ever |
| 1774s | since we've been going down eve is dying |
| 1779s | i wonder if they were surprised by the |
| 1780s | second peak of kovit |
| 1784s | too soon |
| 1787s | you know because i've seen graphs |
| 1789s | recently over the last couple years go |
| 1790s | up go down yay it's over |
| 1793s | nope yay it's over |
| 1797s | yay it's i'm just getting tired of this |
| 1804s | so |
| 1808s | eve has a weird tradition |
| 1810s | if you actually work for the company for |
| 1812s | 10 years they get a sword custom made |
| 1815s | for you |
| 1818s | that's all the employees that have |
| 1820s | stayed with the game company for 10 |
| 1821s | years |
| 1823s | if you stay 20 |
| 1825s | you have an option |
| 1827s | of getting a two-hander hilmar got one a |
| 1829s | little while what about five years ago |
| 1831s | there boats uh he gave he said option in |
| 1834s | that the company said you've been with |
| 1836s | us 20 years we'll get you a gift what |
| 1838s | would you like one of the other guys |
| 1839s | asked for a shotgun and one said i'll |
| 1841s | take a trip to italy |
| 1844s | he went with the sword funny thing |
| 1846s | in iceland you can't own a sword |
| 1851s | too much viking going on i suppose |
| 1853s | but |
| 1855s | they don't trust you so to actually have |
| 1858s | the swords at uh at their office |
| 1862s | they had to |
| 1864s | the only way you can own a sword is if |
| 1866s | you're a museum |
| 1868s | so it's out and under plexiglas so that |
| 1871s | they can say it's an exhibit and they |
| 1872s | have qualified their office their front |
| 1874s | office is a museum of sorts of the |
| 1878s | employees of the office |
| 1882s | but you can't take it home because if |
| 1883s | you're walking down the street they |
| 1884s | would come and arrest you for carrying |
| 1887s | an illegal blade |
| 1889s | and they would especially go after |
| 1890s | hillmar with that big bastard |
| 1893s | actually it's a two-hander not a bastard |
| 1895s | sword sorry d d |
| 1899s | but the thing is about that wall is that |
| 1902s | says that the life span is still there |
| 1904s | and that they're lasting game companies |
| 1907s | are notorious for head hunting and |
| 1910s | flipping companies at the drop of a hat |
| 1912s | you know you get hired by one two years |
| 1914s | later you're working for that company |
| 1916s | three years later you're working for |
| 1917s | that company devs flit and move around |
| 1921s | and yet they have a wall of swords of |
| 1922s | people who've stayed with this game with |
| 1924s | this game company for 10 years |
| 1927s | that's kind of cool |
| 1930s | it also means but |
| 1932s | again with the 57 percent i told you |
| 1934s | about |
| 1936s | told you about before |
| 1938s | they also said 60 or 63 i can't remember |
| 1942s | that number positively percent of the |
| 1944s | employees |
| 1945s | are new enough that they weren't here |
| 1947s | for the last fan fest there's a lot of |
| 1949s | devs who are new to the system and |
| 1951s | that's partially |
| 1952s | got to do with flipping but a lot with |
| 1954s | just they've been doing a lot of hiring |
| 1956s | lately |
| 1959s | which if eve is dying that's a really |
| 1961s | dumb way to go is we're dying let's get |
| 1963s | more employees |
| 1968s | i like this graph it's got way too much |
| 1970s | information on it it breaks all the |
| 1971s | rules of slides you're not supposed to |
| 1973s | do this many words on a on a slide but i |
| 1975s | don't care uh we play a game |
| 1978s | science fiction but please do not ask me |
| 1981s | if this game has any physics in it |
| 1984s | because it doesn't |
| 1986s | we're basically flying submarines in |
| 1988s | space you know not spaceships there's no |
| 1990s | momentum no orbital mechanics gravity is |
| 1994s | just a suggestion and more than one of |
| 1996s | you have flown through the sun without |
| 1997s | getting warm |
| 2000s | but the backdrop is there we've got |
| 2002s | astronomy we've got geoscience we've got |
| 2005s | pi mining the planets so we're playing |
| 2007s | that |
| 2009s | made with this |
| 2011s | computer sciences |
| 2012s | i mean the graphics of this game are |
| 2015s | gorgeous |
| 2017s | and they're all zeros and ones |
| 2020s | like do you think that through that what |
| 2022s | you're looking at is a series of binary |
| 2024s | code |
| 2025s | in motion in action everything is zeros |
| 2028s | and ones when you get down to the bottom |
| 2029s | of it and they manage to make something |
| 2031s | that's engaged me for 13 years and you |
| 2033s | for however long |
| 2035s | and they study it with the social |
| 2037s | sciences |
| 2039s | now that's funny |
| 2041s | there are universities who have sent |
| 2043s | people to do their phds on eve and eve |
| 2046s | players |
| 2048s | economists study our economy as a |
| 2050s | runaway economy with no |
| 2053s | normal checks and balances there's no |
| 2054s | fcc to make sure that you're doing the |
| 2056s | trades legally |
| 2058s | matter of fact the only people who |
| 2060s | really get watched to uh make sure that |
| 2062s | they're not doing real scams and |
| 2064s | cheating are the csm |
| 2067s | they watch me |
| 2069s | because heaven forbid that i i just |
| 2071s | don't do trading when i'm serving on the |
| 2073s | csm and one or two have and they've been |
| 2076s | caught |
| 2077s | and removed from the csm had characters |
| 2080s | banned like they are very serious about |
| 2081s | making sure that we don't take unfair |
| 2083s | advantage of what we do some of you are |
| 2085s | still positive probably that csm cheats |
| 2088s | uses inside trader information you're |
| 2089s | welcome to that i |
| 2091s | at the last fan fest i made tinfoil hats |
| 2093s | for people |
| 2097s | but the funny thing is you notice when i |
| 2099s | started this talk the branch of science |
| 2101s | i went wasn't formal mathematics wasn't |
| 2104s | physics or geosciences |
| 2107s | wasn't social sciences i started with |
| 2109s | life sciences biology |
| 2111s | because i'm talking about longevity and |
| 2113s | living |
| 2114s | and to a certain extent i really really |
| 2117s | wish |
| 2119s | that um |
| 2121s | ccp would hire a biologist |
| 2124s | we actually have a channel the csm with |
| 2126s | ccp called the ecosystem |
| 2129s | so they're acknowledging that this is an |
| 2131s | ecosystem we have predators we have prey |
| 2135s | we have uh |
| 2136s | all of these interim actions and |
| 2138s | dynamics and we're trying to find a |
| 2140s | balance between them |
| 2141s | we don't want to encourage one light |
| 2143s | game style over another too much or else |
| 2145s | we'll drive players out of the game we |
| 2147s | want it to be a balance |
| 2148s | it's kind of like the forest full of |
| 2150s | wolves and deer if you encourage the |
| 2152s | wolves too much all the deer get killed |
| 2153s | but then the wolves all starve to death |
| 2155s | afterwards |
| 2157s | if you kill off all the wolves the deer |
| 2158s | population will bloom |
| 2160s | and then disease will run through it and |
| 2162s | it'll die off as well |
| 2164s | so we are an ecosystem |
| 2168s | in a weird way and i think it would be |
| 2169s | really neat if they data mined this and |
| 2171s | handed it to |
| 2172s | a biologist who studies that sort of |
| 2175s | dynamic balance and see what they had to |
| 2177s | say about the game |
| 2179s | they actually have i met a few ccp devs |
| 2182s | yesterday who are pure data miners |
| 2185s | like what they do is build the data and |
| 2187s | collect the data and present it to the |
| 2188s | devs to say this is what's happening in |
| 2190s | the game i told them and they said you |
| 2192s | know that's kind of a neat idea |
| 2195s | so i'm done for my uh csm span |
| 2199s | so that's why i started with biology is |
| 2202s | um i |
| 2203s | i'm retired now but i was a science and |
| 2205s | math teacher high school |
| 2208s | and so when i look at something i look |
| 2209s | at it from whatever lens of whatever |
| 2211s | subject i'm thinking about at the time |
| 2214s | you know some days i look at something |
| 2215s | and i'm doing the math of it other days |
| 2217s | it'll be the biology the physics and |
| 2220s | because all of this is so interconnected |
| 2222s | that's what you do is you try to explain |
| 2224s | things in a way that it makes sense to |
| 2226s | everybody but not all of us speak the |
| 2229s | same bloody language or think in the |
| 2230s | same direction |
| 2232s | so as a teacher you try to connect one |
| 2234s | of the phrases that used to go around |
| 2236s | was grow or die |
| 2240s | there we go |
| 2243s | that little pithy saying has been pretty |
| 2246s | much debunked |
| 2248s | but people are looking at the eve curve |
| 2251s | of the population i had a few slides |
| 2252s | back and saying we're not growing |
| 2254s | therefore we are dying we were dying |
| 2256s | even when we were growing |
| 2258s | everything has a lifespan it's just how |
| 2260s | long |
| 2262s | but i like this one better |
| 2265s | improve or die |
| 2267s | darwin liked that one |
| 2269s | too it was kind of like adapt |
| 2272s | but he also admitted that adaptability |
| 2275s | wasn't all that was shook up to be it's |
| 2277s | not like the entire species found the |
| 2279s | perfect path and followed it it's they |
| 2281s | spread out all over the place and one of |
| 2284s | them probably found the right idea and |
| 2285s | the rest of them died off |
| 2288s | so eve has been fighting a competition |
| 2291s | doing this |
| 2292s | finding its way through a minefield by |
| 2294s | trial and error and hitting the |
| 2296s | occasional mine |
| 2297s | and doing something stupid black hope |
| 2305s | sorry |
| 2308s | so |
| 2310s | being adaptive is important being |
| 2312s | adaptable is really important being able |
| 2314s | to pick your path |
| 2315s | but the thing is with the gaming company |
| 2317s | is if you go down the wrong path can you |
| 2319s | back up and go in a different direction |
| 2322s | or are you going to lock in damn it i |
| 2324s | don't care the players are wrong we're |
| 2325s | going that way |
| 2329s | please no |
| 2331s | i'm sure some of you can think of |
| 2332s | occasional times when eve has made a |
| 2334s | mistake |
| 2337s | i'm sure some of you can think of times |
| 2339s | when you've made mistakes |
| 2341s | but you're still here |
| 2344s | i'm sure you've lost a ship or two that |
| 2345s | you really wish you didn't take that |
| 2347s | ship out that day |
| 2349s | or that you checked your implants before |
| 2350s | you undocked |
| 2356s | been there done that or for the older |
| 2358s | ones |
| 2359s | remember to update your clone |
| 2368s | been there done that drank the water |
| 2371s | did not enjoy it |
| 2373s | it's okay to make mistakes because there |
| 2375s | is no road map |
| 2376s | okay wrong phrase |
| 2380s | there is no road map |
| 2381s | there is no manual that tells you this |
| 2384s | is the way that you're supposed to run a |
| 2385s | gaming company |
| 2386s | the funny thing is other gaming |
| 2388s | companies kind of consider eve |
| 2390s | a very unique thing |
| 2394s | because we break all the rules and |
| 2396s | somehow still live |
| 2398s | we still have players showing up after |
| 2400s | 19 years playing the game |
| 2403s | we monetize different |
| 2406s | don't get me started okay |
| 2409s | not going to go further than just saying |
| 2410s | that phrase |
| 2412s | but |
| 2413s | to a certain extent eve goes people say |
| 2415s | this is how game companies work then |
| 2417s | there's ccp |
| 2419s | they work but we don't know why we don't |
| 2420s | know how they just do okay |
| 2425s | i think one of the key features that eve |
| 2427s | has |
| 2428s | that other game companies have but they |
| 2430s | have in a different way |
| 2432s | is you guys |
| 2435s | a loyal fan base and man some of us are |
| 2438s | fanatically loyal |
| 2440s | i mean how many of you brought swag for |
| 2442s | other people you know out of your own |
| 2444s | pocket made things coasters pins how |
| 2448s | many of you have a ton of pins on your |
| 2450s | lanyard already from meeting those |
| 2452s | people who did do the stuff there are |
| 2454s | people who've had specialty shirts made |
| 2456s | flags made you know we are a bunch of |
| 2459s | fanatics probably scary to the normal |
| 2461s | gaming companies no okay but they get |
| 2464s | their fanatics too but |
| 2467s | the thing that gets me is eve is way |
| 2469s | bigger than the game and one of the |
| 2470s | other things i was talking about is |
| 2473s | when you stop playing the game remember |
| 2475s | i was saying the things that make a game |
| 2476s | last |
| 2477s | is when you stop playing do you still |
| 2479s | play it in your head |
| 2481s | are you thinking about it in your off |
| 2483s | time you're not at the computer but |
| 2485s | you're going you know i think i got a |
| 2486s | good fit |
| 2488s | or i know how we can catch that damn spy |
| 2492s | or |
| 2493s | they'll never see this coming |
| 2497s | they did |
| 2501s | that shots for me vegas but the thing is |
| 2504s | um |
| 2505s | you guys are what make the game last and |
| 2507s | probably the game companies would love |
| 2509s | to have you become fanatics for their |
| 2511s | game but no you can't have them |
| 2515s | almost done what am i doing for time |
| 2520s | what's that |
| 2521s | oh excellent i'm almost right on path |
| 2525s | so here we are one last thought on |
| 2527s | longevity then i'll let you go or ask |
| 2529s | questions or whatever i will accept |
| 2531s | drinks except brennevan's meh for me |
| 2536s | there's a group called the long now |
| 2540s | they want to make a clock that will run |
| 2542s | for the next 10 000 years |
| 2545s | seriously i think they're insane |
| 2549s | but they actually are trying to figure |
| 2550s | out the engineering and the best place |
| 2552s | on the planet to make a mechanical |
| 2555s | device that will run for 10 |
| 2558s | 000 years and keep accurate time |
| 2562s | and they're going to have a group of |
| 2563s | people who wind the clock or you know |
| 2567s | keep the power running to it because it |
| 2569s | doesn't run off the grid it's gotta run |
| 2570s | off a mechanical process |
| 2573s | me um because i taught physics and a |
| 2576s | bunch of other things i'm going i can't |
| 2578s | think of any mechanical device that |
| 2580s | stands a chance of lasting you know |
| 2582s | metal lasting 10 000 years |
| 2585s | there's corrosion there's all sorts of |
| 2586s | things i think it's a fantastic idea |
| 2589s | it's somebody who's willing to dream |
| 2590s | really big |
| 2593s | but they're going for a static form of |
| 2596s | longevity |
| 2597s | 10 000 years that's a big thing |
| 2601s | there's a poem |
| 2603s | i'm only going to quote i put all of it |
| 2604s | up mainly because they gave me that |
| 2606s | backdrop |
| 2609s | now if you read through i'll get to the |
| 2610s | line that sticks with me |
| 2615s | look on my work she mighty and despair |
| 2618s | nothing beside remains around the decay |
| 2621s | of the colossal wreck boundless and bare |
| 2624s | lone and level sand stretch away |
| 2628s | but it starts with |
| 2630s | two vast trunkless legs of stone the |
| 2632s | only part of that statue not there is |
| 2633s | the legs |
| 2636s | so i just found that weird that the poem |
| 2638s | was the reverse of the image that i had |
| 2640s | to use |
| 2641s | but it's the idea of building something |
| 2642s | that will last forever and brag that |
| 2645s | it's there i left my footprints on the |
| 2647s | sands of time but the problem is the |
| 2649s | sands of time are right next to the |
| 2651s | ocean of time and the ocean is going to |
| 2652s | wash that sand and erase you |
| 2656s | you get your longevity |
| 2658s | for a period of time you may last the |
| 2660s | time after |
| 2662s | in the memory of family and that sort of |
| 2664s | thing but |
| 2665s | 10 000 years from now nobody is going to |
| 2667s | remember you |
| 2669s | me |
| 2670s | the game |
| 2672s | maybe |
| 2674s | this is the other type of oops i'm going |
| 2676s | to trip on that one these times this is |
| 2677s | the other type of longevity this is |
| 2679s | athens |
| 2681s | just in case you don't recognize the |
| 2682s | architecture |
| 2684s | is one of the oldest continuous cities |
| 2687s | on the planet |
| 2688s | not the old it's just one of them |
| 2690s | because there's arguments about when |
| 2691s | they started |
| 2693s | uh athens has been |
| 2695s | there according to recorded history for |
| 2697s | 3400 years |
| 2700s | but archaeologists are pretty sure |
| 2702s | that |
| 2704s | human presence has been there from the |
| 2706s | 11th to |
| 2707s | 11th to 7th century bc |
| 2710s | so that puts it more like 13 000 years |
| 2713s | there's been people living there |
| 2716s | but unlike the long now's clock they |
| 2718s | didn't build the city say this is |
| 2720s | exactly how it's going to stay forever |
| 2724s | it has had its ups and downs it's |
| 2726s | disastrous it's been bombed it's been |
| 2728s | burned it has grown |
| 2730s | it's had technology change under it over |
| 2732s | it all the way around it |
| 2734s | it got plumbing |
| 2737s | and but it's still there so to a certain |
| 2740s | extent it has |
| 2742s | a permanence it has longevity as a city |
| 2745s | because it didn't try to be a static |
| 2747s | longevity it went with a dynamic balance |
| 2751s | and eve is doing the same thing |
| 2754s | eve doesn't try to be the same game it |
| 2755s | was 19 years ago we probably wouldn't |
| 2758s | play that well no i take that back some |
| 2760s | of you would |
| 2763s | but the game has grown changed it's |
| 2765s | always growing and changing they've got |
| 2767s | new things coming that you guys that i |
| 2770s | know about that you don't need |
| 2776s | it's okay i'm not running next term so |
| 2778s | you can't vote you can't not vote for me |
| 2782s | he made fun of us we're not going to |
| 2784s | vote for him |
| 2786s | that'll teach him no i'm not running |
| 2787s | that taught you |
| 2793s | dynamic balance we've grown we've |
| 2795s | changed but the thing is the foundations |
| 2797s | just like the parthenons there |
| 2800s | there's still legacy code |
| 2801s | there's still bits and pieces of old eve |
| 2804s | hiding there scaring the devs in the |
| 2806s | dark of night |
| 2808s | they will not touch pauses pause code is |
| 2811s | dead |
| 2812s | they will not touch the billboards they |
| 2814s | tried that once it shut down all the |
| 2816s | gates |
| 2822s | so they're afraid of their own code |
| 2825s | and it's worse because a lot of the |
| 2827s | original coders are long gone and they |
| 2829s | didn't um hilmar was quoted once as |
| 2832s | saying when they made eve they were |
| 2834s | hoping for it to last five years |
| 2839s | so we're 14 years past the best before |
| 2842s | date |
| 2844s | no wonder it's a little stale |
| 2847s | is this eve taste off to you |
| 2854s | back to the swings |
| 2858s | so what's full of bugs in the morning |
| 2859s | sand and salt at noon and empty in the |
| 2861s | evening |
| 2863s | a video game |
| 2864s | just in case you didn't get that |
| 2867s | far as i'm concerned when i play i still |
| 2869s | see a lot of salt |
| 2872s | the game is still there i think we're |
| 2873s | still in our afternoon occasionally some |
| 2875s | of you can convince me it might be |
| 2877s | getting close to late afternoon |
| 2879s | if you're looking at the graph |
| 2882s | but seeing as i did one poem you didn't |
| 2885s | expect this to be a poetry reading did |
| 2886s | you ha |
| 2887s | i didn't mention that in the outline |
| 2890s | uh quote and most of you will know this |
| 2892s | quote from a movie i enjoyed but do not |
| 2895s | go gentle into the good night |
| 2897s | old age should burn and rave at the |
| 2899s | close of day |
| 2901s | rage rage against the dying of the light |
| 2904s | though wise men at their end no dark is |
| 2907s | right |
| 2908s | because their words have fork no |
| 2909s | lightning they do not go gently into |
| 2912s | that good night dylan thomas |
| 2918s | eve may go down eventually but i think |
| 2919s | it's going to go down with us kicking |
| 2921s | and screaming |
| 2922s | there are some people who you know the |
| 2924s | running joke is i won't be there when |
| 2926s | they turn the lights out you know some |
| 2928s | of us have that loyalty that the only |
| 2931s | way i won't be here when they turn the |
| 2932s | lights out is probably my lights will |
| 2934s | get turned out first |
| 2938s | here's a weird one for you for the older |
| 2940s | people in the game i actually have |
| 2942s | arranged with ccp for the bus assets to |
| 2945s | be passed back into the game as opposed |
| 2948s | to lost if i pass away i've got my |
| 2950s | daughter has the communication |
| 2953s | to i've made a game will |
| 2957s | because the game assets are important to |
| 2959s | me |
| 2960s | they're not a real thing they're pixels |
| 2963s | and we sign a eula that says they're not |
| 2965s | even your pixels |
| 2967s | you know technically you don't own |
| 2969s | anything in eve you got a nice badge |
| 2972s | this is real and it's mine |
| 2975s | but you don't own any of the pixels but |
| 2977s | i actually want to make sure that the |
| 2979s | bus that the material goes back any plex |
| 2982s | that i have at the time i want donated |
| 2984s | to the next plex for good |
| 2986s | if there's another charity organization |
| 2988s | running at that time i want the risk |
| 2990s | pass there or just bought biplex on that |
| 2992s | day and donate that to plex for good i |
| 2994s | have written an eve will |
| 2998s | sorry didn't mean to depress you |
| 3003s | i like that image |
| 3007s | can you figure out where you are and |
| 3008s | where ccp is |
| 3015s | four legs in the morning two legs in the |
| 3017s | afternoon and three legs in the evening |
| 3018s | the answer man |
| 3020s | in the morning he crawls like a baby in |
| 3022s | the daytime |
| 3023s | he walks on two legs in the evening we |
| 3026s | all |
| 3026s | i actually brought a cane and i was |
| 3028s | going to do a little magic trick and |
| 3029s | make the cane appear unfortunately they |
| 3032s | suddenly said it's 10 o'clock |
| 3034s | so |
| 3036s | magicians should never tell somebody |
| 3037s | that there's about to be a trick but i |
| 3039s | don't really care |
| 3045s | sorry |
| 3046s | i knew that would happen |
| 3050s | [Music] |
| 3053s | that is the end of the talk except for |
| 3054s | the stupid magic trick |
| 3058s | i was happy with this i really wanted to |
| 3060s | do this |
| 3061s | so i'm going to do it whether it looks |
| 3063s | good or not |
| 3066s | so |
| 3067s | i am in my twilight |
| 3069s | i have my cane |
| 3072s | are there any questions |
| 3075s | any comments if you want stuff about the |
| 3077s | csm we don't have a csm round table this |
| 3079s | fan fest so if you want to ask some csm |
| 3081s | questions you're welcome |
| 3083s | you might assume i pay attention |
| 3088s | but |
| 3090s | that's it |
| 3106s | are there any questions comments |
| 3109s | unfortunately they haven't given you any |
| 3110s | tomatoes to throw |
| 3113s | no well there are some lovely talk |
| 3115s | people talking to you that probably know |
| 3117s | a lot more than i do i know i'm looking |
| 3119s | forward to seeing some of the other |
| 3120s | speakers today |
| 3122s | so i hope to see some of you out in the |
| 3124s | hallway between and i am glad that you |
| 3126s | all came all the way to iceland i'm glad |
| 3128s | i came all the way to iceland i'm from |
| 3130s | west coast canada |
| 3132s | so |
| 3133s | it's a long flight and i i'm built on |
| 3136s | the large economy size i don't fit |
| 3138s | airplanes |
| 3143s | but my family's here they're having a |
| 3144s | grand time |
| 3146s | i get to drive the golden circle |
| 3148s | tomorrow |
| 3149s | and have a bit of fun |
| 3151s | thank you very much you've been both of |
| 3153s | you have been very patient |
| 3157s | [Applause] |
| 3170s | you |