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0s if we break the tie are we gonna say
4s well well ladies and gentlemen this is a
5s match after my own heart and i feel like
7s we're also going back in time a little
8s bit as well we got snuffed up versus
10s hard knocks and my favorite ships on
12s grid mod please tell me about what we've
14s actually brought on both sides
16s yeah so we see that hard knocks has
17s brought three typhoon fleet issues with
19s rapid heavy missiles uh a magus a
22s pontifex two deacons a blackbird and
24s nahina snuff bringing a very similar
27s comp um but instead of typhoon fleet
29s issues choosing to go with two tempest
31s fleet issues of vindicator um a magus
33s pontifex double deacon a vengeance a
36s vexer and another vengeance
38s i gotta say i love the vindicator bits
40s but i also feel like these type of
41s fleets have entered like they're like a
43s bit late for the last 18 because that
45s was very much a common thing but here we
47s see triple typhoon fleet versus vindy
49s rush with tempest fleets
51s yeah and already we can see that hard
53s knocks is not wanting to commit
57s issues choosing to run away we can see
58s that the vindicators are already
60s streaming across the field um some heavy
63s rep drop uh bots getting deployed for
66s hard knocks um onto thinxx erebus being
69s the primary meanwhile alex o'mearas is
71s taking the brunt of these uh rapid
73s heavies but we see that um the
76s fleet typhoon of thinks is now being
78s held down by literally everything and it
80s will be the primary for snuff i mean
82s this is probably going to
84s go to whether or not alex can survive um
87s a full rapid heavy clip and if he's
90s interesting part as well
92s look at ice amar jamming out targets if
94s they can't kill him he's gonna be a
96s thorn in the side of this vindy rush
98s team at the moment they've obviously
99s they've try and go for this uh phoenix
101s when he went past him alex is still
103s holding on but that can't be he can't do
105s that forever there's no way
107s yeah i mean yeah you just have to sold
109s out for the duration of the rapid heavy
111s clip and he might just do that so we saw
113s that there were some jam attempts onto
116s the battleship core keep in mind those
119s jams are just attempts they're not
120s necessarily successful um so far it
123s looks like alex has survived long enough
125s for the clip and thinks is taking um
128s damage from
130s the vindicator appears his guns are on
132s for the moment
134s and some autocannon damage from those
136s two tempest fleet issues
138s yeah the ecm is trying his best knows
139s that the support wing as well has pretty
141s much been untouched a hyena is currently
142s being let's say harassed and a vengeance
145s has currently taken some damage but at
146s the moment it literally is just a big
148s face-to-face brawl typhoon fleet versus
150s tempest fleet yeah so nuke michael is
152s not firing okay now he is so he nuke
155s michael has regained luck let's take a
157s look at alex o'mearas um alex is
161s is now firing and miss kesha appears to
164s be
165s also
166s uh
167s not f actually not firing so blackbird
171s doing a pretty good job being able to
172s mitigate the damage of the vindicator
174s vindicator not able to get alex look at
176s alex
177s yeah but now alex is going down phoenix
181s is going down
183s um baby very very even so we also see
186s that stuff is getting some damage onto
188s the deacons of uh of four side
190s um
192s alex will go down in a second right have
194s to like the position
196s alex had like one extra rep cycle at the
198s end there he almost like managed to
199s survive but nope he's gone but they
201s managed to buy a bit of time now what
203s are they going for next looks like a
203s deacon's being pounded avengers being
205s pounded but what else are they going for
207s are the other type of fleets nearby i
209s think they've moved i think they left
211s yeah so i really like what the
212s vengeances from snuffed out did they got
214s on top of the beacon that was forced to
216s come in to save the typhoon fleet issue
218s and now snuff is making the absolute
220s right target call they are choosing to
222s go for the hyena get rid of the paints
225s that can apply to any sort of snuff um
227s support ships and they're getting their
229s vengeances on top of shari um correct
232s target calling from snuffed out
234s choosing to put the battleships onto
236s legion and get rid of the deacon
240s and remember once that type once
243s pardox has already lost the typhoon
244s that's less reptons that can be applied
246s to shari or to legion
249s joints like mental mass in my head i
250s believe the typhoon fleet of bounty ben
253s is actually currently tackled away i
254s think he's still in range but he's
256s pretty close to the edge of his rapid
257s heavy range
258s they might have to actually like get the
259s other one away from him yeah uh typhoon
261s ben uh the typhoon of bounty band is
263s still definitely within range let's take
266s a look back at shari here um shari has
268s no
269s remote uh rep supporting him being held
271s down by a magus and a vengeance uh
274s damage drone is now being applied tim
275s shari dropped so that's all the logie
278s gone for hard knocks i have to like the
280s position that you're in if you're
281s snuffed out
282s and a quick mention well good good
284s piloting from the battleships on um
286s on snuff's team because they are not
288s orbiting with a microphone at zero they
290s are getting nearby control spacing and
292s just shooting him as hard as they can
294s that is how you fly a battleship
297s yeah meanwhile we can see that uh behind
299s is just being picked apart by some um
301s flights of uh small drones he will go
303s down eventually but right now legion is
306s just being held at zero by those 90
309s vindicator webs and he looks like he's
311s going to become 90 percent loot in short
313s order as the tempest fluid issue and
316s vindicator are just eviscerating him no
319s remote bots really
321s support him anymore no longer he's going
323s to drop rather shortly the hyena drops
326s snuff still has their logistics wing
328s keeping nuke michael up um just
331s better target calling i like the choice
333s of the blackbird from hard knocks but
336s it got a couple jam cycles but it wasn't
337s enough to save the um
339s battleship core
341s back then honestly i kind of believe
342s that the support wing was what won it
344s here because these deacons are still
345s alive and able to support their tempest
347s fleet a typhoon can't do anything and
349s that i was honestly like at the start
351s i'm actually deacons can't hold ships
353s but at the end of a match if they're
355s still alive they can absolutely hold a
357s ship against a weakened force as this
358s type of fleet goes down to no response
362s yeah and i mean
364s i can't help but feel like you're
367s choosing to go with rapid heavies on a
370s typhoon fleet issue um it gets the bonus
372s to application on cruises you can see
374s apple
375s application bonus on torpedoes i really
378s feel like had hard knocks going for
380s either of those two options they would
382s have been much better suited
384s against the snuffed out
387s battleships that they were facing
389s once
390s those clips ran out alex was able to
392s survive and snuff just outraged it as a
394s result
395s interesting as well is that these tie
396s fighters are kind of kitty like they're
398s a reason we caught a bakari comp but
400s they didn't really have any way of
401s staying that way they didn't have any
403s real screen besides a single vengeance
405s they didn't really have any way of like
406s sort of removing opposing screen they
408s were kind of just like well we can kite
410s but if you catch us we're screwed
412s and as you see they've got caught just
413s got obliterated they can't do anything
415s to stop them
416s yeah this was very nearly a mirror match
419s in the support we can see both teams
421s going again for magus pontifex double
423s deacon and vengeance i mean it's a
426s pretty
427s um standard kind of cookie cutter setup
430s but
431s it's that for a reason it works it is
434s able to keep your ships alive you use
436s the vengeances to get on top of whatever
437s you want to hit with those relatively
439s slow moving battleships in the tempest
441s fleet and the vindicator and then once
443s you get on top of something you're
444s dumping
445s well over five nearly 6 000 damage with
448s heat and you're going to break things
450s and we saw that that happened to hard
451s knocks
453s yeah i'm loving seeing the old school
455s tie fire come back you know it feels
456s like we're going back to 1816 here but
458s unfortunately it needs to stay in 8016
460s it doesn't have the damage to keep up
461s anymore
464s yeah i mean this is something that the
465s kind of the desk has talked about there
467s is
468s there is a place for typhoon fleet
470s issues but
471s they've just gradually kind of been
473s pushed out of the scene
475s um by ships that just sort of do the
478s role
479s but better um
482s they're just not quite worth it i feel
484s in this meta for the full um you know 63
488s points it takes to bring
490s those three battleships
493s yeah well the blackbird he tried his
495s absolute best to be a nuisance but it
496s didn't really help unfortunately i think
498s he's actually dying slowly
500s yeah vengeance is slowly pvp and him up
502s there
503s never mind not anymore the other guys
504s are coming
506s yeah you kind of have to laugh at kind
507s of the irony of snuffed out of all
509s alliances solo pvping you and then you
512s know getting solo pvp'ed in a blackbird
515s um
516s bit of karma for you um that blackbird
519s now going down and the typhoon fleet
521s issue into fairly low armor um
525s well played by snuff i just believe that
528s they had a more rounded comp and just
530s executed better and that showed in the
533s arena um yep well played
536s exactly and just let everybody know if
538s indicator is the windicator 100 win rate
540s always bring it you always win
542s as thus proven by this match
547s yeah i'm glad that i'm not going to be
549s embarrassed uh being in snuffed out at
551s least not this round uh they'll manage
553s to make themselves um in the round of 32
556s with this victory and with that we'll
558s send it back to the studio to break that
559s one down for us