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| 5s | Warriors of Legend |
|---|---|
| 14s | hallowed and venerated Among the Stars |
| 18s | themselves |
| 23s | [Music] |
| 26s | for those bold enough to join this |
| 29s | Gladiator of Pantheon |
| 32s | this gallery of Champions |
| 35s | that is only |
| 38s | [Music] |
| 41s | winner stays on |
| 56s | welcome ladies and gentlemen boys and |
| 59s | girls to the opening Salvo of Alliance |
| 62s | tournament 19 19. can you believe it uh |
| 66s | this one is sponsored by the galenti |
| 68s | Federation so in Alliance tournament 19 |
| 70s | we will see teams competing for Pride |
| 72s | for Glory and of course for prizes from |
| 76s | seeing their Alliance logo emblazoned |
| 78s | upon the Victor's monument in the system |
| 80s | of Monarch so you're getting 10 of the |
| 83s | incredible new galante victory skins for |
| 86s | every win they get in both the feeders |
| 88s | and the main tournament to taking home a |
| 90s | stash of unique prize ships the shipash |
| 93s | and disability now today we start to |
| 96s | start the wheat from the chaff as we |
| 98s | enter the feeder rounds and a change |
| 101s | from tournaments past there is no silent |
| 104s | option for tournament spots this year no |
| 106s | more can you Flex the Plex and buy your |
| 108s | way into the main event now you have to |
| 111s | prove yourself in this Gauntlet of |
| 113s | Champions fight your way through for the |
| 115s | opportunity for Eve immortality today 46 |
| 120s | teams enter and by next weekend 28 will |
| 123s | have secured those spots in the main |
| 125s | event if you win today that first |
| 127s | critical match you're straight into the |
| 130s | tournament that's right 24 of those 28 |
| 132s | spots will be filled with that |
| 135s | all-important first win if you stumble |
| 137s | right now and you're into an absolutely |
| 139s | brutal bracket you'll have to fight |
| 141s | through three or four more rounds |
| 143s | potentially culminating in the galenti |
| 146s | gamble but more on that another time of |
| 149s | course the four teams that don't have to |
| 151s | suffer this today are the teams that |
| 153s | came top for it last year in Alliance |
| 155s | tournament 18. they are truth honor |
| 157s | light Odin's call we form Volta and the |
| 160s | tuskers they get to sit back and see |
| 162s | what happens in this exciting opening |
| 165s | event I am CCP overload and I am joined |
| 168s | on the desk by some wonderful people by |
| 171s | Yen tan and mystical might Misty how are |
| 173s | you today |
| 175s | yeah not too bad I'm actually pretty |
| 177s | excited to see some of these teams come |
| 179s | into the fetus tournament and see |
| 181s | whether they can progress into the main |
| 182s | tournament either in the first round or |
| 184s | whether they have to battle through the |
| 186s | entire thing to try and get their place |
| 187s | in their bracket so it should be pretty |
| 189s | good I've been looking forward to this |
| 191s | for quite a while it's uh yeah should be |
| 193s | good |
| 194s | yeah we're certainly going to see some |
| 195s | historic teams that have always had |
| 198s | their ability to Plex to just buy it |
| 200s | straight into the main tournament and |
| 201s | Skip these feeder rounds for the last |
| 203s | couple of years uh stories historical |
| 205s | teams like pandemic region the most |
| 207s | winning team in Alliance tournament |
| 209s | history stumbled in the last couple of |
| 210s | years and of course they were able to |
| 212s | buy their way through with their vast |
| 214s | reserves but now they are here in the |
| 216s | trenches with all the other teams who |
| 218s | are in the exact same position as them |
| 219s | Yin tan that's pretty exciting we're |
| 222s | seeing some pretty old-school teams |
| 223s | going up against some new blood |
| 226s | yeah and obviously we're seeing some |
| 227s | teams in fact the first two teams that |
| 230s | we're going to see today which is uh |
| 231s | goon swarm Federation and snuffed out a |
| 233s | pair of teams with a long long history |
| 236s | on Tranquility having fought each other |
| 238s | in the North during the low SEC of |
| 241s | Ultron era all the way back in 2016 that |
| 244s | led into World War B uh up to eventually |
| 246s | joining the Imperium during the height |
| 248s | of the raw core age where they shacked |
| 251s | up together and owned their own little |
| 252s | pocket space there so they could build |
| 253s | up the super cap Fleet but they now |
| 255s | terrorize low-sec with so it's two of |
| 258s | the kind of apex predators as it were of |
| 260s | their own respective regions coming up |
| 262s | here to find out what they can do when |
| 263s | they don't have silos on hand |
| 266s | yeah that'd be exciting I wonder if |
| 268s | we'll see four dimoses again from |
| 270s | snuffder or weather they're still |
| 272s | scarred from that uh questionable |
| 274s | decision last year but this is a heck of |
| 276s | an opening match mystical my as as |
| 278s | gentan says goons from Federation number |
| 281s | one marble team in the alliance |
| 283s | tournament uh coming in first in the |
| 285s | seeding marble run going up against uh |
| 288s | snuffed out what do you think about this |
| 289s | match |
| 291s | uh I think it's going to be interesting |
| 293s | for a different reason actually |
| 295s | um for those of you that may have missed |
| 296s | it we did a kind of team pick thing last |
| 300s | weekend I think where we were deciding |
| 302s | which teams we were going to back and |
| 303s | who are fantasy team was and jintan |
| 305s | actually picked goonsworm and Wingnut |
| 307s | pick snuff so not only are you know |
| 310s | goons and snuff Computing for a place in |
| 311s | the tournament but Jin and Wingnut are |
| 313s | now competing for some points because uh |
| 316s | yeah well I'll let John explain it later |
| 318s | perhaps but yeah it should be fairly |
| 320s | interesting I think snuff will probably |
| 321s | take it if they don't bring four-day |
| 323s | mosses again they did not do well last |
| 324s | time so here's the hoping they've |
| 326s | learned that lesson |
| 327s | yeah gentai normally we do a bit of a |
| 329s | tier list before the uh before the main |
| 332s | event and before the theater has been |
| 333s | this year you decided to change things |
| 335s | up a little bit essentially bringing |
| 337s | fantasy football into the alliance |
| 339s | tournament World fantasy Alliance |
| 341s | tournament feeder runs uh explain what |
| 344s | was the what was the motivation here |
| 347s | uh basically just for me being addicted |
| 349s | to playing in fantasy football and other |
| 351s | various fantasy sports leagues over the |
| 353s | over the years I decided why not try and |
| 355s | bring it to you on why we've always kind |
| 356s | of thought about how would you possibly |
| 358s | do it you can't possibly like track |
| 360s | individual players performances like you |
| 361s | can in a a regular Team game so let's |
| 365s | just draft all the teams let's see who |
| 367s | has the best eye for talent the people |
| 368s | who can figure out who's who those |
| 371s | underrated teams are and all that sort |
| 372s | of thing and at the end of it we'll |
| 374s | figure out which analysts do know their |
| 375s | and which ones don't |
| 377s | yeah I'm excited to see maybe we can |
| 379s | talk about that at some point maybe |
| 380s | today or tomorrow and have a look and |
| 382s | maybe just a temperature check and see |
| 384s | who's off base who's uh who's looking |
| 386s | good I know |
| 388s | um one of our one of our casters Mark |
| 390s | resurrect is Wormhole Daddy he has been |
| 392s | just drafting everywhere multi we |
| 394s | possibly can uh one of which uh already |
| 396s | pulled out unfortunately for him uh |
| 399s | Singularity Syndicate unfortunately |
| 400s | could not make the tournament today and |
| 402s | have pulled out they've also |
| 405s | um Prismatic Legion with the other team |
| 406s | that have dropped out so that 48 that |
| 409s | was supposed to be for the video it has |
| 410s | turned into 46 giving a couple of first |
| 413s | round buys uh to a couple of key teamers |
| 416s | and that's great for them because |
| 417s | they're able to just like straight |
| 419s | through they don't have to worry about |
| 420s | trying to win that first match but I |
| 422s | mean mystical might this is essentially |
| 424s | win and in right now like this match |
| 427s | every match that we're going to see for |
| 429s | the next while is when and in and if you |
| 432s | fail it is pain how do you think that's |
| 434s | gonna make the teams feel |
| 436s | I'm hoping that teams decide to bring |
| 438s | some of their better setups to the first |
| 440s | match because it's |
| 441s | I guess not it's almost guaranteed entry |
| 444s | right if you bring your one one of your |
| 446s | better setups not necessarily your best |
| 448s | you want to keep some things back so |
| 449s | that when you get into the main |
| 450s | tournament you've not already shown your |
| 452s | best hand and people are already working |
| 454s | to counter you because there's still |
| 456s | time between the feeders and the actual |
| 458s | tournament so anything you show now will |
| 459s | be Theory crafted or reverse engineered |
| 461s | and then practiced against |
| 464s | um but I'm hoping people bring their |
| 465s | better setups and that they think will |
| 467s | actually be able to win matches against |
| 468s | some of the good teams in the tournament |
| 471s | um instead of pretending that perhaps |
| 472s | they can scrape by by bringing something |
| 473s | trash from a few years back |
| 477s | Jen you've been in a position of uh |
| 478s | leading teams in the in the past as well |
| 481s | um what's what's the thought process |
| 482s | from a captain's point of view you know |
| 483s | Misty's saying bring that good comp |
| 485s | right now and and get in |
| 488s | if you think that you're a solid team |
| 490s | and you're up against a wicked team like |
| 492s | how confident do you think you can be in |
| 493s | these positions |
| 510s | I think |
| 517s | okay please remind me |
| 531s | yeah so I've been told uh gentana and |
| 534s | the stream couldn't hear anything that |
| 535s | you said there |
| 537s | um I could tell you it was insightful |
| 539s | insightful analysis |
| 541s | um and honestly spoilers for the for the |
| 543s | script of this particular tournament |
| 545s | um but unfortunately we don't have |
| 546s | really have the time to repeat it uh so |
| 549s | you're gonna have to uh just try and you |
| 552s | know insinuate what gentan might have |
| 554s | talked about there but honestly |
| 555s | beautiful words gentan uh but we are |
| 558s | ready to go to the arena for our very |
| 560s | first match of Alliance tournament 19. |
| 563s | it is good and small Refrigeration it is |
| 565s | snuffed out and your casters are going |
| 567s | to be the Basilisk and Chad Flame |
| 573s | hello everybody Welcome to as the guys |
| 575s | were saying this very first match of the |
| 577s | alliance tournament 19 feet is the |
| 578s | nerves have got to be high for these two |
| 579s | teams they are the first ones up to the |
| 581s | class to give their presentation |
| 582s | um countdown is starting 30 seconds to |
| 584s | go a little bit has schedule there so |
| 586s | um or a little bit behind schedule for |
| 587s | us for all this let's look at these |
| 588s | comps here Chad |
| 594s | not sure if China's having technical |
| 596s | issues I can't hear him maybe muted on |
| 598s | New Mexico in any case uh this match is |
| 601s | getting underway here um in just five |
| 603s | seconds now so these comps English |
| 604s | Confederation seem to have a gun comp |
| 605s | yep you're on here |
| 607s | um goons form bringing a bunch of gun |
| 608s | gun battle Cruisers here vulture Navy |
| 610s | Fair Oaks murmidon snuffed out bringing |
| 612s | a sort of kind of King Slayer but also |
| 615s | kind of control the comp with these two |
| 616s | rapid heavy battleships the guardian and |
| 617s | the two blackbirds so those blackbirds |
| 618s | are going to be an issue if they can't |
| 619s | get dealt with |
| 624s | and we are now seeing um the goons from |
| 627s | Federation push in here a little bit |
| 628s | this caracal maybe the Phantasm Etc |
| 630s | they're all pushing forward a little bit |
| 631s | trying to get into range of these guns |
| 633s | here I think they realize that the |
| 634s | um snuff content up against isn't |
| 636s | particularly lost about range you know |
| 638s | it wants to stay fairly tight and balled |
| 639s | up and and compact so they're free to |
| 641s | sort of push in and uh get into Optical |
| 643s | range of their guns |
| 649s | but we are seeing docslayer take some |
| 652s | chunks in the black red hair so it's |
| 653s | going to be on infinitas uh very |
| 655s | competent pilot flew with him in the |
| 656s | captain's cup um on the Jitsu team this |
| 658s | year he's obviously going to be on the |
| 659s | ball he's gonna be keeping Ducks they're |
| 660s | alive they're switching on to Minton |
| 662s | perhaps but |
| 663s | um again infinitas probably very capable |
| 665s | of I mean he's already going to be |
| 666s | cycling reps and putting them on him |
| 667s | again so |
| 669s | gonna be difficult to make some progress |
| 671s | though |
| 676s | just checking Chad are you are you still |
| 678s | encountering technical difficulties I |
| 680s | assume so |
| 682s | um so I'll just keep going so Michael in |
| 684s | the bar guest |
| 685s | um is starting to be primary here now I |
| 687s | think perhaps goons have realized this |
| 689s | comp only has these two battleships for |
| 691s | damage it's got the bargains of Newt |
| 692s | Michael it's got the Armageddon Navy of |
| 694s | Jose and the rest is control |
| 697s | yep I heard you there trying to keep |
| 699s | going come in |
| 701s | knocked out come in |
| 703s | they are actually making progress on |
| 705s | Nuka |
| 707s | yeah |
| 713s | this is Alexa of card here jumping in |
| 716s | for Chad as we see this exciting match |
| 718s | playing up between good and swarm and |
| 720s | snuffed out right now snuff's definitely |
| 723s | on the back foot despite on paper having |
| 725s | a pretty strong comp |
| 728s | yeah I feel like this this company I've |
| 730s | got here wants to try and um you know |
| 732s | land the jams and then try and pick up a |
| 734s | primary target that we saw it's a sort |
| 735s | of modified version of a comp that we |
| 736s | saw Hydra using multiple times last year |
| 738s | and they haven't got the massive damage |
| 740s | um they're probably not gonna win on |
| 743s | like 100 Point Victory it's going to be |
| 744s | on points if they do win |
| 746s | um but obviously these command |
| 747s | destroyers mankara in the Magus um going |
| 750s | into sort of middling armor here so it's |
| 752s | on the guardian to keep in mind if they |
| 753s | lose links it's going to be quite very |
| 755s | very dangerous for this Con with the |
| 756s | e-board that they've got |
| 758s | absolutely fortunately their Guardian |
| 760s | does seem to be doing a pretty good job |
| 762s | unfortunately the ECM doesn't seem to be |
| 765s | able to consistently stop the Osprey |
| 767s | reps of Podrick Equus who is continuing |
| 770s | to keep the goonestorm Federation team |
| 772s | topped off despite what I assume is |
| 774s | pretty Relentless rapid heavy missile |
| 776s | fire from that bar guest and get a Navy |
| 779s | to get a Navy crucially has not seemed |
| 782s | to been able to land any neutralizers on |
| 784s | anything is it possible he doesn't have |
| 786s | them |
| 788s | I think maybe snuff haven't actually |
| 790s | been uh they've been waiting for the |
| 792s | jams here they've been holding out for |
| 793s | all these blackbirds to get a jab but |
| 795s | they may have said you know it's not |
| 795s | happening we need to do something so I |
| 797s | see them pushing forward here and they |
| 798s | are actually pumping into Podrick uh in |
| 800s | the Oz Pro he is burning away to try and |
| 801s | get out of the Missile Range Armageddon |
| 803s | maybe doesn't have the best Miss orange |
| 804s | but he is going into shield into armor |
| 805s | now he's going into Holland this is a |
| 806s | shield Osprey obviously he is going to |
| 808s | go down here and this is going to then |
| 809s | put the onus on goons to make some |
| 811s | progress |
| 812s | um that they haven't been able to do so |
| 813s | far the guardian of infinitas has been |
| 815s | able to just keep everyone alive Podrick |
| 816s | is still living in half Hull |
| 818s | hanging in there |
| 821s | every second that Podrick buys his team |
| 824s | is absolutely crucial because once he |
| 826s | goes down this is a war of attrition and |
| 829s | I'd say we're goon swarm will probably |
| 831s | not win so podrick's staying up this |
| 834s | long is huge he's now oh yeah he dropped |
| 838s | he's finally dropped and of course in |
| 840s | this situation it just means when you're |
| 842s | against this double ECM comp with the |
| 843s | two blackbirds that ECM obviously as |
| 845s | match goes on it gets more and more |
| 846s | concentrated until it comes to a point |
| 847s | where you literally just can't play the |
| 848s | game there's just so many jams |
| 849s | overlapping it's only one ship for the |
| 851s | time being but they are still splitting |
| 853s | damage between these two blackbirds |
| 854s | giving infinitas a little bit of trouble |
| 855s | and keeping them both up |
| 858s | yeah the the ships that are jammed are |
| 860s | still going to be able to attack the |
| 862s | ship that is jamming them that's why |
| 864s | you're seeing some of the damage split |
| 865s | between these blackbirds they're still |
| 867s | trying to go after that Magus who is |
| 869s | hanging in there pretty strong in about |
| 871s | two-thirds armor meanwhile duck Slayers |
| 873s | Blackbird back to full infinitas doing |
| 876s | some work here although he himself is |
| 878s | now finding himself in danger as he's |
| 880s | starting to take some pretty serious |
| 881s | damage |
| 883s | I feel like the play for goons is in |
| 885s | fact to kill these command destroys if |
| 886s | they can get the pawn to fix and the |
| 887s | Magus off the field here people think |
| 888s | you know Canal destroy is Tech Two |
| 890s | resist but they're actually pretty |
| 891s | squishy if you can get them tackled down |
| 892s | these battle cruises will be able to |
| 894s | absolutely pump through them and they |
| 895s | haven't got the raw buffer that the |
| 896s | blackboard's got for the guardian to |
| 897s | catch them so if you can quickly switch |
| 899s | you know tackle a Magus quickly switch |
| 900s | onto it pump it from range it will die |
| 902s | pretty quickly and it's difficult for |
| 904s | the guardian to keep it up when he's got |
| 905s | to decycle his reps and then cycle them |
| 907s | on the magazine wait till the end of |
| 909s | that cycle to get the Reps in |
| 911s | unfortunately goonestorm is going to |
| 912s | have a hard time getting the critical |
| 914s | mass needed to punch through even those |
| 916s | Destroyer tanks with the Blackbirds |
| 918s | doing their jobs here that said they |
| 920s | seem to be trying to now concentrate on |
| 922s | Duck's Slayer I think this is going to |
| 923s | be a more successful strategy for them |
| 925s | if they can keep enough damage on one of |
| 927s | the black words to push through it |
| 930s | yeah I think that's right here it's just |
| 932s | tremendously easier I think they just |
| 935s | want to sort of pressure infinitas's cap |
| 937s | here the guardian only two mid slots so |
| 938s | it's not going to be the strongest thing |
| 940s | on cap |
| 941s | um and it's not really going to have any |
| 942s | sort of cap coming from elsewhere in the |
| 944s | comp maybe a remote cap transfer on the |
| 945s | bogus if he's close by but obviously |
| 946s | they're very short range that would |
| 947s | require him to sit right next to him |
| 948s | they kill off the carries as well that |
| 950s | was probably being quite annoying but |
| 951s | infinitas in this Guardian is going into |
| 953s | Hawaii he doesn't have enough cap to |
| 954s | wrap himself and the Blackbirds |
| 957s | um they are going to trade for the |
| 958s | harbinger Navy of Lord Jackson but the |
| 960s | guardian going down is massive the rest |
| 961s | of this comp is just going to fall apart |
| 962s | now Minton goes down and rep in quick |
| 964s | succession there in the other blackbird |
| 966s | and the harp Navy is still not dead this |
| 969s | is a terrible trade |
| 971s | unstorm is now somehow managed to take |
| 973s | this back they are now in the driver's |
| 975s | seat here with a lion share of damage |
| 977s | and tank |
| 979s | is quite an intelligent Choice from from |
| 981s | goonestorm here to just say if you can |
| 983s | shoot the guardian shoot the guardian |
| 984s | and we'll Whittle through it if you're |
| 985s | getting jammed by the Blackbird just |
| 986s | shoot that and it's all adding up into |
| 988s | his cat pressure and now this snuff bump |
| 989s | is just absolutely falling apart the |
| 990s | sentinel's gonna die the pontifex is |
| 992s | going to die the professor is going to |
| 993s | die with no reps it is just going to be |
| 995s | these two battleships left of the geta |
| 996s | Navy in the Bargas and they they could |
| 998s | prove to be quite a bulky Target but |
| 999s | with only three minutes left in the |
| 1000s | match here just over three minutes it's |
| 1002s | I don't know if they're going to be able |
| 1004s | to break enough stuff obviously there's |
| 1005s | no lodgy on the other side they can |
| 1006s | maybe look at the character or maybe |
| 1007s | it's the Osprey maybe you're getting |
| 1008s | into a point situation when you've lost |
| 1010s | eight of the ships in your comp it's |
| 1011s | it's pretty difficult to come out ahead |
| 1013s | on that Metro |
| 1014s | yep and unfortunately this goonestorm |
| 1016s | team the lower end where you'd think |
| 1018s | they would try to make up a lot of those |
| 1020s | points very tidy |
| 1022s | Osprey Navy jacked off Phantasm these |
| 1025s | are very elusive ships especially for |
| 1026s | Battleship grade damage they're gonna |
| 1028s | have a hard time getting through those |
| 1030s | hit points even though there's not a lot |
| 1031s | of them on paper if they go the other |
| 1033s | direction against the command ship and |
| 1035s | the Navy battle Cruisers they might not |
| 1037s | make it in time |
| 1038s | yeah I think the Armageddon maybe has |
| 1040s | like from memory like 70 kilometer range |
| 1043s | with faction Heavies it really doesn't |
| 1044s | have the best range it doesn't have a |
| 1045s | range bonus like the Bargas which makes |
| 1046s | it very very easy to stay away from for |
| 1048s | The Jackal The caracal maybe so the |
| 1050s | vulture the ferrox the momentum maybe |
| 1051s | they're all untouched make them feel |
| 1052s | free to just push in and keep putting |
| 1054s | damage on this bogus new Michael who the |
| 1056s | guardian obviously sent a piece to this |
| 1058s | com because the logic goes down |
| 1059s | everything just falls apart so he's not |
| 1061s | really going to have much backing him up |
| 1063s | here he is going down into low armor |
| 1065s | um and this is in fact gonna be some |
| 1067s | might say a surprise win for goonestorm |
| 1069s | I think many people this was going to be |
| 1070s | one of the most interesting matches in |
| 1072s | the first round I think many people |
| 1073s | would have favored snuffed out slightly |
| 1075s | um but goon's coming out strong here |
| 1078s | honestly if you looked at their comps on |
| 1079s | paper I think snuff dad had the better |
| 1081s | game plan like goonestorm just executed |
| 1084s | they hung tough after losing their logic |
| 1086s | they stayed composed and they managed to |
| 1088s | turn this match around as this August of |
| 1090s | nuke Michael is desperately clinging to |
| 1092s | life |
| 1094s | yeah |
| 1096s | still alive living to win yeah |
| 1102s | I think that goonsville at this point is |
| 1104s | saying the only way we lose this this |
| 1106s | match is if you know the bogus lives and |
| 1108s | they're able to break through our battle |
| 1109s | cruises um so they're just securing the |
| 1111s | win there the Magus at this point in the |
| 1112s | match is just not really doing anything |
| 1113s | between you can kill him if you want but |
| 1116s | um you know killing him doesn't secure |
| 1117s | the win in the same way that killing the |
| 1118s | bogus does they may take down the middle |
| 1120s | maybe but it's going to be futile as |
| 1122s | this match draws towards the close here |
| 1124s | just over one minute left |
| 1126s | the Phantasm has made it its mission to |
| 1128s | ensure that Magus does not survive the |
| 1130s | night he has put drones and lasers on |
| 1133s | him and now finally Switched Off back |
| 1135s | onto the gedden Navy that magus |
| 1138s | has managed to dodge a bullet not that |
| 1140s | it's going to help his team but she is |
| 1141s | putting out links to absolutely no one |
| 1143s | with just the get a Navy left to his |
| 1146s | tackled surrounded by a cloud of hostile |
| 1149s | drones desperately trying to do what it |
| 1151s | can against this murm Navy which it has |
| 1153s | caught |
| 1154s | but I don't know if it has the DPS to |
| 1156s | close the deal here and even if it does |
| 1158s | with 49 seconds remaining in this match |
| 1160s | it is not going to turn the tie this is |
| 1163s | purely for Pride if you can bring down |
| 1165s | this murm Navy now sitting at half |
| 1167s | structure and dropping fairly rapidly |
| 1169s | yeah it's just going to come down to |
| 1170s | whether he has enough missiles in his |
| 1172s | clip to deal with the mum maybe I think |
| 1173s | he will yeah the mum maybe does go down |
| 1175s | um so let me tell you a story I like |
| 1177s | last week |
| 1178s | um moderator was on the draft show and |
| 1180s | he wanted to mend the bridges between |
| 1182s | snuff and Jutsu and then this week on |
| 1184s | Thursday we were screaming and we had to |
| 1185s | pause for 20 minutes because someone |
| 1187s | ping there was a Titan tackle long story |
| 1189s | short it turned out to be a snuff bait |
| 1191s | and they uh laid us for 20 minutes they |
| 1193s | killed my Panther on my amulet so screw |
| 1195s | the bridge I'm glad that goon's one |
| 1197s | let's go Goons |
| 1198s | the karmic Justice here in the opening |
| 1201s | round of the theater surrounds |
| 1203s | so going forward snowfall gonna have to |
| 1205s | play later on today and I think it may |
| 1206s | be well advised to sort of bring out on |
| 1208s | perhaps easier to execute comp maybe |
| 1210s | they could go back to the four dmoses |
| 1211s | see how that one goes uh with that we're |
| 1213s | going to send it back to the desk for |
| 1214s | some more analysis |
| 1222s | sign us up |
| 1225s | [Music] |
| 1234s | [Music] |
| 1237s | why your team is stopping and today I'm |
| 1240s | so pumping look here at the crowd is |
| 1242s | jumping pump it up a little more get the |
| 1245s | party going on the Dance Floor |
| 1248s | thank you |
| 1250s | [Music] |
| 1271s | foreign |
| 1276s | [Music] |
| 1281s | Federation taking the first victory of |
| 1285s | Alliance tournament 19 feeders and |
| 1287s | securing themselves a spot in the main |
| 1289s | tournament they are done we will not see |
| 1291s | more of them until the main event later |
| 1293s | this year they can rest on their Laurels |
| 1295s | happy in the fact that they have secured |
| 1298s | that that critical spot and of course 10 |
| 1301s | skins uh snuffed out of course choking |
| 1303s | their uh their ticker is of course BBC |
| 1305s | and they're maybe have a strategy just |
| 1308s | to try and get more skins by going |
| 1310s | through the the Glen to gamble who knows |
| 1312s | um but we will certainly see them again |
| 1314s | later today uh let's see if they can |
| 1316s | they can pull out a dub later on now it |
| 1318s | looked like mystical might that snuff |
| 1321s | were in a good position early on in that |
| 1323s | match they seem to have it they seem to |
| 1326s | uh you know the contests were saying it |
| 1328s | looks like hey you know good try goons |
| 1330s | from Federation get back in your box but |
| 1332s | then it all seemed to just turn around |
| 1334s | what happened |
| 1335s | I think there are a number of things |
| 1337s | that happened |
| 1339s | um goons seem to be losing to Snuff |
| 1341s | originally mainly because I don't think |
| 1342s | they were flying their compo that well |
| 1344s | they had a high damage comp with a fair |
| 1346s | bit of projection but I think because |
| 1348s | they were being jammed a lot they were |
| 1350s | scrambling a bit to try and put damage |
| 1352s | out but not really coordinating much so |
| 1354s | we saw damage coming across five |
| 1356s | different ships at once most of them |
| 1358s | getting to about half armor but then all |
| 1360s | of them getting wrapped back up slowly |
| 1362s | instead of focusing fire onto one |
| 1364s | particular Target I think also that uh |
| 1368s | there was a boundary I think on the |
| 1369s | snuff side right yeah at some point |
| 1372s | which is which is fantastic |
| 1376s | in the first match |
| 1379s | yep very strong performance from snuff |
| 1382s | um I would say that snuff's comp was |
| 1384s | also harder to execute so with the ECM |
| 1386s | setups you want to be able to screen the |
| 1388s | damage ships away from your ECM ships to |
| 1390s | prevent them from getting the maximum |
| 1391s | damage on because they're not that tanky |
| 1393s | but they're very good about splitting |
| 1395s | how much damage is coming into a |
| 1396s | singular ship at one time we don't |
| 1399s | really see that coming out from the |
| 1400s | magazine the Confessor and I think maybe |
| 1403s | the pontiflex set stuff had I can't |
| 1405s | quite remember they weren't really |
| 1406s | screening and in fact we saw the |
| 1408s | guardian and some of the Blackbirds be |
| 1409s | surrounded by the DPS ships from goons |
| 1412s | towards the middle of the match which is |
| 1413s | where it began to swing |
| 1415s | and one of the things that's probably |
| 1417s | worth talking about at this stage of uh |
| 1420s | of the tournament okay just after the |
| 1422s | first match is some of the key rule |
| 1424s | changes uh that exist from last year to |
| 1426s | this year now in town one of the |
| 1428s | critical ones is the changes to e-war uh |
| 1432s | how was it last year and what's |
| 1433s | different this year |
| 1435s | so in the previous Alliance tournament |
| 1437s | like tournament 18 there was a change to |
| 1439s | the rules where you were allowed to fit |
| 1442s | scripts to your email modules again and |
| 1445s | this turned out to be incredibly |
| 1447s | incredibly powerful and we saw people |
| 1449s | flying some absolutely ridiculously |
| 1452s | amazing ships we saw Cyclone fleets |
| 1454s | running a single plate as their only |
| 1457s | tank module and then filling their mid |
| 1459s | slots with dance and guidance disruptors |
| 1461s | and tracking disruptors and just slowing |
| 1464s | the game down forcing their opponents to |
| 1466s | fly through molasses as they gently |
| 1468s | plinked away at them from range and as |
| 1470s | amazing as that was in a truer you know |
| 1472s | display of skill he's also a bit of a |
| 1475s | display of degeneracy and it doesn't |
| 1477s | bring the explosions and the brawls and |
| 1479s | the big matches that we'd love to see |
| 1480s | here on uh Alliance tournament day so |
| 1484s | this year uh you are only allowed to fit |
| 1486s | scripts to your EO modules if you are |
| 1489s | flying a ship which is bonus to them so |
| 1491s | that means your celestises your carries |
| 1493s | your or more or less is all of those |
| 1496s | sorts of things can fit uh |
| 1499s | damps with the log range and scan res |
| 1502s | scripts to them and similarly for the |
| 1505s | arbitrator for tracking disruptors and |
| 1508s | all of the other scripted eboard that |
| 1509s | you can think of |
| 1511s | yeah Mr how do you think this is going |
| 1513s | to affect the overall 3D crafting I mean |
| 1515s | last year we saw things like the the |
| 1517s | Glorious armor jackdot just slap as many |
| 1520s | uh you are mids in that thing as |
| 1522s | possible and of course some teams some |
| 1525s | captains call from your achieve cough |
| 1527s | just love to find any way to put as many |
| 1529s | Ur modules on to the compass possible |
| 1532s | you can't get away with that as much |
| 1534s | this year our team is going to skew |
| 1535s | towards picking those bonus to holes |
| 1537s | even though they might be more expensive |
| 1538s | or are we just going to forego you are a |
| 1540s | bit more this year |
| 1542s | I think it go it could go one of two |
| 1544s | ways ewall is super strong and when you |
| 1547s | put it on a bonus toll that your wall is |
| 1549s | even stronger so we saw quite a bit of |
| 1551s | that on things like Jack doors where you |
| 1553s | don't actually get a bonus to dance for |
| 1554s | example but if you bring a more or less |
| 1556s | or a celestis then you'll get that bonus |
| 1558s | to dance |
| 1559s | but you'll also lose a bit of the damage |
| 1561s | and the utility that the drag door |
| 1563s | provides so we may see some teams opt to |
| 1566s | drop a DPS ship and bring a fully |
| 1568s | fledged eworship to really put that that |
| 1572s | eward to use it could be extremely |
| 1573s | effective against the logistics making |
| 1576s | sure that your enemy can't actually |
| 1577s | stray too far away from their scimitars |
| 1579s | and Guardians for example or else they |
| 1581s | lose lock but you can also try and |
| 1583s | switch targets quite rapidly if you pair |
| 1585s | it with an ECM ship and if you scan res |
| 1588s | damp a guardian or a scimitar then it |
| 1589s | takes a long time for it to actually |
| 1591s | lock up the ship you're shooting which |
| 1592s | means that killing those smaller ships |
| 1594s | is useful |
| 1595s | on the flip side we may just see more |
| 1597s | remote assistance coming out from some |
| 1599s | of these things like that doors with |
| 1600s | remote tracking remote eccm coming out |
| 1602s | to counter some of the evil that we may |
| 1605s | be seeing |
| 1606s | um really it can go one of two ways it |
| 1608s | depends if people favor the damage or |
| 1609s | the utility that they get from the ewall |
| 1613s | yeah now it will be interesting to see |
| 1614s | how the meta develops um I'm going to go |
| 1616s | out on a limb and say we've not seen |
| 1618s | Peak meta in our first match there uh |
| 1621s | goons form and snuff there not two of |
| 1623s | the the most well-known story tournament |
| 1625s | teams uh famed for their 3D crafting uh |
| 1628s | of course you know guns are in I I |
| 1630s | salute them it's not not a not a common |
| 1632s | occurrence in the alliance tournament |
| 1633s | usually they they stumble and fail but |
| 1636s | you know this time first in marbles |
| 1637s | first spot secured so congratulations to |
| 1640s | the Gooden swarm Federation there now |
| 1642s | let's look forward to our next match |
| 1643s | which is banana versus platinum |
| 1646s | sensitivity uh Yin tan tell me a little |
| 1649s | bit about these teams here |
| 1651s | uh so Platinum sensitivity are the |
| 1655s | Japanese team uh we moved to an apple |
| 1659s | RJ we're playing the intro |
| 1667s | I'm not sure |
| 1684s | that's intro |
| 1693s | anyway uh so the teams so uh banada are |
| 1697s | a Polish Wormhole team at least that's |
| 1698s | my understanding of them I've not had |
| 1700s | the uh pleasure of running into them and |
| 1702s | Tranquility but I've heard that they are |
| 1704s | at least relatively competent uh most |
| 1706s | Wormhole teams do have experience flying |
| 1709s | in small gang which is more that you can |
| 1710s | say for some of the Null Sec contenders |
| 1713s | uh but then again you know wormhoilers |
| 1715s | do also have kind of a historical |
| 1717s | uh shall we say previous position for |
| 1721s | not finishing particularly well when it |
| 1722s | comes to the actual tournament |
| 1725s | I can see it hey see us again hey guys I |
| 1727s | love that intro it's a great intro |
| 1730s | here we go so we can see bands uh okay |
| 1734s | okay I probably this was the button that |
| 1735s | was meant to be pressed uh but the it |
| 1737s | seems like the intro button is |
| 1739s | unpushable so we must watch the intro so |
| 1742s | here's the Vans banana Banning out uh |
| 1745s | the Widow and the bar against Platinum |
| 1747s | sensitivity choosing to ban it that a |
| 1749s | badon and the Redeemer and then there's |
| 1751s | some trickle bands in there but I'm not |
| 1752s | convinced that they are a real uh |
| 1754s | physical fact what do you think about |
| 1755s | these bands |
| 1757s | uh I'm just gonna assume that the first |
| 1760s | bands are the correct ones |
| 1763s | um yeah it's fairly interesting to see |
| 1764s | the Redeemer band come out there was |
| 1766s | that buff to the Redeemer which made the |
| 1768s | Newt stronger it doesn't give it extra |
| 1769s | range but it does make it a little bit |
| 1771s | more powerful by half I think now which |
| 1773s | is pretty cool yeah badden is an |
| 1775s | interesting one but we have seen |
| 1776s | versions of the more high damage kind of |
| 1779s | Rush comp where they've brought a |
| 1780s | patterns and oracles before which is |
| 1782s | extremely effective at just kind of |
| 1784s | out damage onto a ship and |
| 1786s | making it die I mean it's fairly hard to |
| 1789s | avoid that damage as well since they |
| 1791s | project quite well |
| 1793s | um I think it's interesting to see a |
| 1794s | widow ban |
| 1795s | um I don't know how many teams are going |
| 1797s | to emphasize bringing widows especially |
| 1799s | in the feeders bracket it's something |
| 1801s | that I think a team might try and hail |
| 1802s | Mary later on in the tournament when |
| 1805s | it's least expected depending on how the |
| 1806s | meta develops but it's not exactly a |
| 1809s | strong ship when it comes to tanking or |
| 1811s | damage but it does have a lot of jams |
| 1813s | but with the change to jams it can still |
| 1815s | be shot when it's jamming things so it |
| 1818s | depends a lot on the support ships that |
| 1821s | someone decides to bring with the Widow |
| 1824s | so just quickly uh some people asking |
| 1826s | about trickle bands now trickle bands |
| 1827s | don't exist I believe in the feeder uh |
| 1829s | this year but jintanki together is like |
| 1831s | a 20 second overview of what trigger |
| 1833s | bands actually are |
| 1834s | so when if two if two people Ban two |
| 1838s | teams ban the same ships the trickle |
| 1839s | bands ensure that a reasonable selection |
| 1842s | of ships are actually banned from the |
| 1844s | total pool uh by giving both teams the |
| 1846s | opportunity to ban in accordance with |
| 1848s | how many bands they agreed on the same |
| 1851s | pick with |
| 1853s | okay perfect now uh let's go to this |
| 1857s | match uh between the banana and platinum |
| 1859s | sensitivity with Alexa and Wingnut |
| 1866s | hello this is Alexa card with what is |
| 1868s | shaping up to be an exciting match but |
| 1870s | not in here with a ECM Blaster Rush comp |
| 1874s | I am so hyped for this wing nut what do |
| 1876s | we have in the Platinum sensitivity side |
| 1878s | as this match gets underway yeah they go |
| 1880s | DPS projection here so we're going to |
| 1881s | have like a lot of ECM with a lot of |
| 1883s | damage but then against what's going to |
| 1885s | just absolutely rip apart as you can see |
| 1887s | two heck of these already did I don't |
| 1888s | know why they brought two but this is |
| 1891s | very not the match I was expecting to |
| 1893s | see and it's honestly going so damn |
| 1895s | quickly We're not gonna get much of it |
| 1896s | oh no this is this is terrible for |
| 1899s | banana they lost three of their Blaster |
| 1901s | ships already the Scorpions have not |
| 1903s | actually been successful with their jams |
| 1906s | three scorpions I I want whatever |
| 1909s | they're smoking because apparently it's |
| 1910s | some good |
| 1912s | rapid heavy scorpion it's a serious |
| 1914s | sound right |
| 1916s | what Banana's trying to do is is jam out |
| 1918s | the enemy DPS so that the blasters can |
| 1920s | get on top and fight unencumbered but |
| 1922s | they did not land the initial round of |
| 1925s | jams they've lost all of their damage in |
| 1927s | seconds |
| 1928s | terrible oh my heart |
| 1933s | it's like watching fireworks or popcorn |
| 1936s | in the machine it's just this is never |
| 1937s | ending already their support Wing is |
| 1939s | gone the last logic's about to get |
| 1940s | deleted now you've got three entirely |
| 1943s | anemic scorpions who are like but but we |
| 1946s | jammed but we jammed things |
| 1950s | I was literally bouncing in my chair |
| 1952s | seeing this comp work in and I have |
| 1954s | never been so disappointed in my entire |
| 1957s | life |
| 1959s | I was hoping to see like you know DPS |
| 1960s | Rush versus like hiding rush but it just |
| 1962s | it died so damn fast these scorpions did |
| 1965s | exactly zero |
| 1967s | brutal I'm not sure what happened there |
| 1969s | maybe just bad luck on the rolls but the |
| 1972s | Scorpions did not draw aggro like they |
| 1975s | were supposed to and their team fell |
| 1976s | apart so fast hey part of the problem I |
| 1979s | have with it at least is that you |
| 1980s | brought two lodgy frigates with ships |
| 1982s | like hecates that are particularly tanky |
| 1984s | they don't last long enough to even get |
| 1986s | reps on to begin with with your short |
| 1987s | range rappers so it was just I don't |
| 1990s | think it was really this comp it's just |
| 1991s | I don't know it's so stacked with |
| 1993s | scorpions you're missing so much in it I |
| 1995s | think |
| 1997s | just yeah I think they might have been |
| 1998s | better off going with the two and scorps |
| 2000s | instead of three they probably still |
| 2002s | would have had enough ECM to do what |
| 2003s | they were hoping to do but a few more |
| 2005s | points to play with to get some beefier |
| 2007s | lodgy maybe some kind of links to help |
| 2010s | them out not sure what they could have |
| 2012s | done differently here that's a great |
| 2014s | idea on paper |
| 2016s | like there's a lot of ways you do you |
| 2017s | could do like scorpions and blackbirds |
| 2019s | you do scorpions and a uh kitsuna if you |
| 2022s | really wanted to like you could really |
| 2023s | spread out the options but know what no |
| 2024s | no no no no we want three scorpions |
| 2026s | because we got stinging Tails yo we just |
| 2029s | want to start stabbing people it it no |
| 2031s | loud and sensitivity here looking great |
| 2034s | uh they're well on their way to a |
| 2037s | Flawless victory |
| 2039s | yeah I I I know this is going to sound |
| 2041s | mean but they deserve this one is this |
| 2043s | more this bananas face planting so hard |
| 2045s | they went through the floor |
| 2047s | I think they deserve it a little bit |
| 2050s | they had a lot of poise in the face of |
| 2052s | an absurd amount of jams they had |
| 2054s | excellent Target calling and they're |
| 2057s | moving on to the next round |
| 2060s | indeed well thank you very much that was |
| 2062s | a very quick match and we'll go very |
| 2063s | quickly back to the desk as well |
| 2068s | guys stop being casual they're really |
| 2070s | bad we should not lose anybody to this |
| 2073s | warp off take the fleet warp everybody |
| 2075s | warp off this is a really really bad |
| 2077s | execution I'm very disappointed |
| 2083s | another great hall back from Omar damn |
| 2085s | I'm thirsty |
| 2087s | [Music] |
| 2089s | ah |
| 2091s | that hits the spot |
| 2092s | [Music] |
| 2104s | Yeah we actually lost a bet as CCP |
| 2107s | collectively so that's why that Alliance |
| 2109s | logo is in the game of course you could |
| 2111s | change your alliance by leaving but that |
| 2113s | would be kind of a jerk move oh you |
| 2115s | don't like it now this Lego sucks I'm |
| 2117s | gonna go join |
| 2125s | thank you |
| 2133s | [Music] |
| 2135s | well there we are Platinum sensitivity |
| 2137s | uh cleaning up in the fruit aisle there |
| 2140s | a pretty solid win over banana |
| 2144s | um I guess I didn't go to plan for a |
| 2147s | team banana bringing a triple scorpion |
| 2150s | that seems like a bold choice I mean |
| 2152s | it's triple scorpion can it work or they |
| 2155s | just not execute well here |
| 2157s | uh so I've annoyed Hydra with the idea |
| 2161s | of like a banana split comp which is |
| 2162s | funny because banana brought this comp |
| 2164s | um and the idea was that you have |
| 2166s | multiple scorpions that act as like ECM |
| 2169s | towers and they all split apart so that |
| 2171s | you have to chase each one down |
| 2172s | individually and you just keep jamming |
| 2173s | people off of the other scorpions |
| 2176s | um this was not in a very effective use |
| 2178s | of the Scorpion because they decided to |
| 2180s | Ram their entire team in before the |
| 2183s | Scorpions had actually established luck |
| 2184s | on anything and managed to lose both of |
| 2186s | their hecates and basically half an exec |
| 2189s | before Jam started to come out really |
| 2191s | um I think you want a tankier team that |
| 2194s | can kind of sit back and limit the |
| 2196s | amount of damage that a team can project |
| 2197s | against you because you're not going to |
| 2199s | be moving quickly with three Scorpions |
| 2201s | on your side and they kind of melded |
| 2203s | blaster Rush with scorpions which |
| 2205s | obviously didn't work too well for them |
| 2207s | and it's important to note that their |
| 2209s | logistic ships were too lodgy frigates |
| 2211s | the Thalia and I believe the Deacon and |
| 2214s | they looked like they were moving |
| 2216s | extremely slowly for a for a rush comp |
| 2218s | being left completely behind by the |
| 2220s | exact Navy step burden |
| 2223s | yeah do you think there's something else |
| 2225s | that banana could have done there to |
| 2228s | yeah |
| 2229s | find some sort of Route towards Victory |
| 2231s | we know Planet sensitivity are a very |
| 2233s | strong team uh with some really good |
| 2235s | players they did pretty well last year I |
| 2237s | can't remember exactly where they got to |
| 2237s | I want to say top eight |
| 2239s | um but they are by no means a bad team |
| 2242s | uh that being said could be not done |
| 2244s | anything different with what they |
| 2245s | brought not with what they brought what |
| 2247s | they brought like they were going up |
| 2249s | against you know maybe if Platinum |
| 2250s | sensitivity had brought a composition |
| 2252s | which was a bit more reliant on like |
| 2254s | interdependent you know interlocking |
| 2256s | mechanisms for example if they brought |
| 2259s | whatever their own version of the |
| 2261s | Blackbird control comp that we saw |
| 2262s | snuffed out Bring uh previously they |
| 2265s | brought something like that you know |
| 2266s | maybe somehow through the you know the |
| 2269s | pure gods of RNG they could have uh |
| 2272s | enabled themselves to have a victory but |
| 2274s | when you are going up against medium gun |
| 2276s | spam which is what Platinum sensitivity |
| 2278s | brought there's nowhere on grid you can |
| 2280s | hide there's no way you can separate |
| 2282s | damage because even if you're you know |
| 2284s | even if you're scorpion to get 100 |
| 2285s | kilometers away from one another they |
| 2286s | bounce around at all these mjds you're |
| 2289s | still going to be able to shoot the |
| 2290s | Scorpion that's 100 kilometers away from |
| 2292s | you yourself with long-range medium guns |
| 2294s | the whole strategy is completely |
| 2296s | ineffective against what Platinum set |
| 2298s | the city brought they needed to have |
| 2300s | kind of researched what cobs like that |
| 2303s | existed and take them out in the band |
| 2305s | phase if they wanted any hope of |
| 2306s | something like this being able to be |
| 2307s | pulled off |
| 2308s | let's go mate you're very polite there |
| 2310s | you raised your hand I I give you the |
| 2312s | floor yeah I just wanted to thank you |
| 2314s | thank you very much I just wanted to |
| 2315s | raise that uh I think this is the second |
| 2318s | match in which Wingnut and jintan have |
| 2320s | now faced off against each other with |
| 2321s | their picks this time |
| 2324s | uh I believe taking the win and gentan |
| 2327s | losing so yeah it seems like a very |
| 2329s | intense little battle between the two |
| 2331s | for now |
| 2332s | nice nice I haven't been getting update |
| 2334s | on that after after the day maybe jintan |
| 2336s | you can work out the points and we can |
| 2337s | see where the standings are uh but yeah |
| 2339s | so that was banana uh that that comp was |
| 2342s | uh about as good as their current |
| 2344s | Alliance logo |
| 2346s | um now we did see what looked like uh |
| 2348s | you mentioned medium gun spam this gives |
| 2350s | me Shades and memories of the old |
| 2353s | Octodad as it was known uh which was a a |
| 2356s | pretty popular archetype from uh |
| 2359s | Alliance tournament 16 I believe where |
| 2361s | it was just battle cruises with medium |
| 2362s | guns uh mystical might tell me about |
| 2365s | that comp why was it so popular and do |
| 2367s | you think |
| 2367s | we could see more medium gun span this |
| 2369s | tournament |
| 2371s | I mean I think it's fair to say we've |
| 2373s | seen two matches so far and we've seen |
| 2375s | two versions of the Octodad in the new |
| 2378s | 80 environment we've seen an armor comp |
| 2380s | version with Platinum sensitivity and |
| 2382s | we've seen a shield version with uh |
| 2386s | goons in the previous match |
| 2388s | um the armor one it seemed was much more |
| 2390s | effective I think that's down to the |
| 2392s | fact that you can fit tracking computers |
| 2393s | to the armor variants which means that |
| 2395s | you can extend how far you can shoot |
| 2397s | using the optimal range script or you |
| 2399s | can use the tracking speed script to hit |
| 2401s | those smaller targets when they're |
| 2402s | burning in towards you it's a very |
| 2404s | effective setup because it's making use |
| 2406s | of medium sized holes with the battle |
| 2409s | Cruisers and the normal Cruisers to put |
| 2412s | out a lot of medium turret damage which |
| 2414s | is harder for people to avoid with you |
| 2416s | know good piloting just because they |
| 2418s | have better tracking so Bart was typing |
| 2422s | in some of the bat channels that you've |
| 2423s | got like thousands of DPS worth of |
| 2426s | medium turret damage coming in on your |
| 2428s | ships |
| 2428s | that you can't really mitigate so you |
| 2430s | just need to be able to stand there and |
| 2432s | tank and especially in an environment |
| 2434s | where we have a lot of 80 80 logic |
| 2437s | frigates they just don't have that rep |
| 2439s | power to allow them to withstand that |
| 2441s | much damage coming in and they can't |
| 2442s | really mitigate damage from these medium |
| 2445s | tourists if the side that has the medium |
| 2448s | turrets has things like Target painters |
| 2449s | to bloom their signature |
| 2452s | yeah those lodgy frigates it's always an |
| 2454s | interesting decision to go between Tech |
| 2457s | to logistic Cruiser and take one |
| 2458s | logistic Cruiser and then do you drop |
| 2460s | down to the the pair of logistic |
| 2461s | frigates sometimes we even see uh tech |
| 2464s | one Logistics fragrance there's only two |
| 2465s | points but I don't believe it has a very |
| 2468s | good track record of being successful |
| 2470s | bringing tech one logistic frigates uh |
| 2472s | jintan do you I mean what did we see a |
| 2475s | lot of last year and do you think it |
| 2476s | would be the same or do you think we'll |
| 2477s | see more of a switch in the in the |
| 2478s | logistics meta this year |
| 2480s | eventually saw a fairly good mix of |
| 2483s | logistic ships last year it was I |
| 2485s | believe very slightly weighted towards |
| 2487s | the TT Logistics Cruisers because those |
| 2490s | offer you the most power uh when they're |
| 2492s | flown successfully but a lot of teams |
| 2494s | will probably especially at this point |
| 2496s | in the tournament uh focus in on uh T2 |
| 2500s | Logistics frigates because they require |
| 2502s | more work from your opponents to kill |
| 2505s | them one frigate getting a tackle you |
| 2507s | know a web or a scram on a logistics |
| 2509s | frigate is not normally enough to kill |
| 2511s | it you need to back that up with either |
| 2513s | a lot of medium guns which can track |
| 2514s | them really effectively or dedicated |
| 2517s | paints and multiple webs to be able to |
| 2519s | allow your larger DPS uh ships normally |
| 2522s | battleships to actually apply to them |
| 2524s | properly |
| 2525s | um |
| 2526s | and in this kind of lower lower period |
| 2529s | of basically competition you know we've |
| 2531s | still got two months more of practice to |
| 2532s | go into the real tournament uh a lot of |
| 2535s | teams aren't going to be able to be to |
| 2537s | handle that and you'll expect to see a |
| 2538s | lot of Veteran teams take advantage of |
| 2540s | that run comps which rely on TT |
| 2542s | Logistics TT Logistics frigates and just |
| 2544s | expect their opponents to not be able to |
| 2545s | properly deal with them |
| 2548s | awesome no this is the first tournament |
| 2551s | sponsored by the galante Federation |
| 2553s | since Alliance tournament eight so uh |
| 2556s | this year we have reduction on uh |
| 2559s | galante halls and that means things like |
| 2561s | a nine point Vigilant I mean the going |
| 2564s | to rush has been a long-term favorite |
| 2566s | not necessarily successful uh archetype |
| 2569s | uh anymore but it is still a popular one |
| 2572s | what do you think of the reduction of |
| 2574s | points for these uh galante ships |
| 2579s | I think the reduction of points has been |
| 2582s | an interesting concept across all of the |
| 2584s | tournaments I think it is |
| 2586s | most widely applied in this tournament |
| 2588s | compared to some of the previous ones |
| 2590s | we've seen Point reductions I've |
| 2592s | actually wait the minute one might have |
| 2594s | been fairly |
| 2595s | uh widespread as well but |
| 2598s | um ultimately I think it's going to be |
| 2600s | fairly interesting to see how people |
| 2603s | play |
| 2604s | um with the number of flight Point |
| 2606s | reductions across galante ships because |
| 2608s | Valentine ships are fairly versatile in |
| 2611s | the ways that you can play them you can |
| 2614s | have the rail kite setups we've seen how |
| 2616s | effective they are in the previous match |
| 2618s | where you're able to project your damage |
| 2620s | and kill off some of those modern ships |
| 2621s | really quickly but you can also have |
| 2623s | those |
| 2624s | um really high damage Rush setups where |
| 2628s | they just walk to zero and decide to |
| 2629s | burn out whatever's closest and pray |
| 2631s | that they can break through it before |
| 2632s | they die |
| 2634s | um I expect that people are going to |
| 2637s | lean more towards projection because |
| 2639s | it's safer for them and it means that |
| 2641s | you're less likely to just gamble on |
| 2643s | losing at the very start of your match |
| 2644s | when you warp in because warping to zero |
| 2646s | is generally |
| 2648s | understood to be a very poor decision |
| 2651s | in most matchups right it doesn't give |
| 2653s | you much flexibility in terms of |
| 2655s | responding to the comp that your your |
| 2656s | enemy brings so you're kind of stuck |
| 2659s | with one play when you're at zero |
| 2660s | whereas if you're coming at 20 |
| 2662s | you have a bit more maneuverability you |
| 2664s | can ban away if you need to you're not |
| 2666s | stuck in that in that position so yeah |
| 2669s | I'm expecting more projection and a |
| 2671s | solid mix of ships because there's also |
| 2673s | that point additional rule for each |
| 2674s | additional Whole of the same type that |
| 2676s | you bring |
| 2677s | and I've been a couple of times where |
| 2679s | we've had two teams both working and |
| 2680s | zero and each other and it's uh it's |
| 2682s | pretty catastrophic forever involved but |
| 2684s | it is good fun uh now speaking of |
| 2686s | galente uh one of the the cool things |
| 2688s | that you can get from winning matches in |
| 2691s | the is term and not just the main term |
| 2693s | but also the feeders this is pretty cool |
| 2694s | we've extended this year is the new |
| 2697s | victory skins for the galente and I |
| 2699s | believe we can uh we can pop them up on |
| 2701s | the screen check this out look at this |
| 2703s | gold glorious I love this so I just |
| 2706s | think it looks so cool I think the color |
| 2707s | choices are incredible they are so gold |
| 2709s | they are so shiny uh and they've got |
| 2712s | that pretty cool pattern kind of run |
| 2714s | across into the turquoisey color uh |
| 2717s | gentan are these not pretty hashtag |
| 2719s | poggers |
| 2720s | these are in effect extremely populous |
| 2725s | I would in fact call them nodders |
| 2726s | nodders exactly I will also call you |
| 2729s | that I mean this such a good range of |
| 2731s | ships there as well so uh every team |
| 2733s | that wins at least one match in the |
| 2735s | alliance tournament 19 gets themselves |
| 2737s | 10 of these which is pretty pretty |
| 2739s | awesome I'm actually super pleased that |
| 2741s | we were able to extend it into the |
| 2743s | feeders this year so you know a team |
| 2745s | that maybe loses this match in this |
| 2746s | round and goes out in maybe the third |
| 2748s | round winning at least one match in the |
| 2750s | feeders they haven't lost anything on TQ |
| 2752s | but they've gained themselves uh some |
| 2754s | pretty nice skins uh so to to clarify |
| 2757s | this is happening on Thunderdome the |
| 2759s | feeders right now are on the Thunderdome |
| 2761s | server not on Tranquility that means all |
| 2763s | of our Pilots have perfect skills |
| 2765s | everything is free and it is purely down |
| 2768s | to the individual piloting skill and 3D |
| 2771s | crafting from each team to to secure the |
| 2773s | W Misty you know that you've got |
| 2775s | something to say I'm being I'm being |
| 2777s | very |
| 2778s | nice and and school |
| 2781s | um oriented I suppose I was going to say |
| 2783s | I think that the point reduction just |
| 2785s | for clarity for the stream is applied to |
| 2787s | galante Navy ships so when I'm thinking |
| 2791s | about the projection thinking more like |
| 2792s | brutix Navy or XX Navy that we might be |
| 2795s | seeing and which were also fairly |
| 2797s | popular last year as well so honestly |
| 2798s | should be fairly interesting to see how |
| 2800s | they use this year they'll probably be |
| 2801s | banned a lot the Vigilant I think is |
| 2804s | always nine points so that well that may |
| 2806s | be like a tweak from previous years in |
| 2808s | terms of the point waiting that CCP has |
| 2810s | given |
| 2811s | um but I don't think it benefits from |
| 2813s | the |
| 2815s | galante Navy reduction yeah I believe |
| 2817s | you're right I think my that part of my |
| 2818s | brain just got hit by meteorator as well |
| 2820s | uh he's been just striking out left |
| 2822s | right and center today uh so it's been |
| 2824s | it's been pretty tough we don't know |
| 2826s | exactly where he is but he's always |
| 2827s | lurking uh now let's look forward to our |
| 2829s | next match up which is brave collector |
| 2831s | versus kitchen sinkhole now I know one |
| 2834s | person who's going to be all in in |
| 2835s | kitchen sinkhole and that is fear Viner |
| 2837s | a member of the Brave team famously |
| 2839s | refused to draft them in uh jintan's |
| 2843s | Fantasy games because uh he just assumes |
| 2845s | that they're going to lose uh so let's |
| 2847s | look at the band's Brave Collective |
| 2848s | Banning out the carries and the molars |
| 2850s | so they're like hey see them damps gtf4 |
| 2853s | we do not want to see them meanwhile |
| 2854s | kitchen sinkhole Banning the Blackbird |
| 2856s | and The Vindicator so ECM and big boy |
| 2860s | webs and DPS uh mystical might what do |
| 2863s | you make of these bands interesting ones |
| 2865s | here |
| 2866s | I mean again it kind of cools back to |
| 2869s | the discussion we were just having about |
| 2870s | how teams are going to adapt to the evil |
| 2873s | changes this year |
| 2874s | um because we've changed evil rules so |
| 2876s | that you can only fit them on bonus |
| 2877s | holes it makes it easier for teams to |
| 2879s | ban out the type of e-wall that they |
| 2881s | don't want to see |
| 2882s | um it suggests that they've practiced |
| 2884s | against |
| 2885s | um heavy damp comps that have used for |
| 2886s | it gets to burn around at the edge of |
| 2888s | their their ranges and prevent you know |
| 2890s | projection projected damage onto them to |
| 2893s | the brave fleets and kitchen |
| 2895s | sinkholes bound of the Blackbird and |
| 2897s | Vindicator suggest that they've gone up |
| 2898s | against some of the Blackbird comps that |
| 2901s | we may have seen last year that utilized |
| 2903s | I think the Vindicator in balgorn |
| 2906s | um screening for the Blackbirds and |
| 2909s | they've decided that they just don't |
| 2910s | like that and they can't deal with it so |
| 2912s | I think it shows a bit about what they |
| 2914s | think they're weakest against and not |
| 2916s | necessarily what's strong in the matter |
| 2918s | at this moment because there isn't much |
| 2919s | of a meta to go off |
| 2921s | um so teams should be noting down all of |
| 2922s | these bands to get a better idea about |
| 2924s | what teams have been testing against |
| 2927s | really |
| 2928s | yeah sometimes you see uh teams that |
| 2931s | maybe practice against each other a |
| 2932s | couple of times or they have a practice |
| 2934s | partner where they get themselves into |
| 2937s | this like brain Hall of this comp is |
| 2939s | very good and then their bands to hit |
| 2941s | the main tournament and they start |
| 2942s | Banning what everyone else thinks is |
| 2943s | just bizarre stuff and it's you know |
| 2946s | they've been mentally scarred from some |
| 2948s | horrible experience in a practice match |
| 2950s | with with some other people uh and it |
| 2952s | can be super interesting because this |
| 2953s | goes both ways sometimes teams develop a |
| 2956s | super interesting meta which doesn't |
| 2957s | come out till later in the tournament so |
| 2960s | will this pay off for brave who knows |
| 2961s | well there's payoff for |
| 2964s | um kitchen sinkhole we will certainly |
| 2966s | find out as we can head over to the |
| 2968s | arena I'm checking I don't see mutator |
| 2971s | anywhere near so we should have Chad |
| 2973s | flame this time as well as the Basilisk |
| 2975s | for this match between Brave Collective |
| 2977s | and kitchen sinkhole |
| 2982s | Hello everybody welcome back to the |
| 2983s | arena so we can see uh kitchen sinkhole |
| 2985s | here um 30 seconds until the match |
| 2987s | starts kitchen sinkhole have brought |
| 2988s | this double the shack pretty heavy |
| 2989s | control comp |
| 2991s | um they're all quite bunched up |
| 2993s | um 50 away though they've all walked in |
| 2994s | at 50 which is a bit of an unusual |
| 2995s | choice because this com obviously quite |
| 2997s | short range it's only got all the Shacks |
| 2998s | for damage you can only project out to |
| 3000s | like sort of 55 kilometers |
| 3002s | um so you generally want to be sort of |
| 3003s | up close and personal with this kind of |
| 3005s | come up against the brave comp with |
| 3006s | about going to Armageddon Navy so I'm |
| 3008s | pretty scared right now if I'm kidding |
| 3009s | sinkhole I think this may be a pretty |
| 3011s | tricky matchup what do you think Chad |
| 3014s | I 100 agree with you I'm more interested |
| 3016s | to see how that curse is going to play |
| 3018s | out and if it shows the correct forms of |
| 3020s | disruption to do on that brave team |
| 3022s | because that might make a match |
| 3024s | difference because the point is fine on |
| 3025s | that occurs |
| 3027s | yeah I'm not generally speaking sort of |
| 3029s | a fan of the curse I think it's quite |
| 3031s | expensive but if they have this is this |
| 3033s | is a situation where it could be um you |
| 3035s | know quite useful having that advantage |
| 3037s | of the cycle time of the smaller and |
| 3039s | medium newts on the curse when you're |
| 3040s | trying to fight this mute war that is |
| 3042s | inevitably going to take place between |
| 3043s | the battleships |
| 3045s | yeah um it does seem that the curse is |
| 3047s | putting weapon disrupters on the Getty |
| 3049s | navies hopefully shutting down that gun |
| 3051s | range or tracking a little bit I agree |
| 3053s | with you with that uh points cost for |
| 3054s | the curses high but if you are a good |
| 3056s | pilot you can definitely make that ship |
| 3058s | do some work as the Griffin seem to be |
| 3061s | the primary Brave collector |
| 3063s | yeah they're trying to get the CCM off |
| 3064s | the field it's just so annoying to deal |
| 3065s | with and Griffin's a pretty difficult to |
| 3067s | keep up even against Battleship Tara |
| 3068s | it's one good hit is all it's going to |
| 3069s | take and they are going to go down here |
| 3071s | and I actually quite like the choice of |
| 3072s | Brave here to fit done Armageddon Navy's |
| 3074s | because if you mix guns in this comp if |
| 3076s | you fit missile disruptors on the |
| 3077s | Armageddon navys and guns on the bowel |
| 3079s | gone if that curse has got two of each |
| 3081s | then all of your battleships have been |
| 3082s | disrupted but does it looks like it |
| 3083s | seems like he's only got two two |
| 3085s | tracking disruptors to spread between |
| 3087s | those three battleships because they're |
| 3088s | all using the same weapon system so it |
| 3090s | is going to be a two armaged and maybe |
| 3091s | so he's trying to track him disrupt |
| 3093s | um they are chunking this Griffin but |
| 3094s | Alexis suddenly catches a huge bundle of |
| 3097s | reps there and it's straight back up to |
| 3098s | full health and I think these |
| 3099s | battleships might be even a little bit |
| 3100s | difficulty actually tracking as they are |
| 3101s | still burning in |
| 3104s | I was just checking to make sure but |
| 3106s | that uh balgren is a gun battleborn so |
| 3109s | they do not have enough tracking |
| 3110s | disruptors or choosing to use them |
| 3112s | heavier on those getting navies instead |
| 3114s | of trying to disrupt the balgorn at this |
| 3116s | point |
| 3118s | yeah but that said I'm actually still |
| 3119s | kind of surprised that they are able to |
| 3121s | hit this Griffin of Alexis Starbucks so |
| 3122s | reliably he isn't dying just yet but I |
| 3124s | mean he's teetering in low armor he |
| 3126s | keeps catching reps but I can see what |
| 3128s | the way he goes down here he's going |
| 3129s | into Harley's catching reps again but I |
| 3131s | mean there he goes but again |
| 3139s | you're banking on one lucky shot |
| 3141s | sometimes you know that's all you can do |
| 3143s | and sometimes that's what you have to do |
| 3144s | so we will see one Griffin down it looks |
| 3147s | like they're off the other Griffin and |
| 3148s | going hard in on the DPS swing of uh |
| 3151s | kitchen sinkhole now yeah so brave has |
| 3153s | managed to push in here with the bow |
| 3155s | going with two getting so this is |
| 3156s | devolved into a little bit of a brawl |
| 3157s | here with all these battleships locked |
| 3158s | up pretty close to each other |
| 3160s | um so we're gonna see how the new or is |
| 3161s | going to turn out amongst this top end |
| 3162s | here the three top ships in points cost |
| 3164s | of each of these pumps is going to be |
| 3166s | pretty heavily indexed into newts we do |
| 3167s | see that second Griffin go down but I |
| 3169s | think at this point when it devolves |
| 3171s | into a brawl like this that Griffin |
| 3172s | probably wasn't going to last that long |
| 3173s | anyway and he may not even be the |
| 3174s | priority Target maybe it was drones that |
| 3176s | finished him off or something |
| 3178s | doing |
| 3181s | other just got chunked instant chunk |
| 3185s | yeah he's just been absolutely |
| 3186s | evaporated so I think the new pressure |
| 3187s | here is gonna be end up being in favor |
| 3189s | Brave they got about three Battleship |
| 3190s | pools obviously battleships heavy cat |
| 3192s | boosters maybe 3200s it's going to be |
| 3193s | very very difficult to actually win the |
| 3194s | new war here even for the Tula Shacks |
| 3196s | which are going to have a bunch of nukes |
| 3197s | themselves the bowel gone obviously |
| 3198s | exceptionally powerful but curse gets |
| 3201s | absolutely volleyed off the field and |
| 3202s | this is going from bad to worse for |
| 3204s | kitchen sinkhole they have not got long |
| 3205s | left in this match the Federation Navy |
| 3206s | Comet goes down now without that augura |
| 3208s | everything is just dropping |
| 3210s | everything does not have the GPS to uh |
| 3213s | handle the triple Battleship Alpha that |
| 3215s | is just destroying these ships in a |
| 3217s | matter of seconds he and I about to go |
| 3219s | down as well it does not look like |
| 3221s | kitchen sinkhole is going to be able to |
| 3222s | do much those checks looks like they're |
| 3223s | potentially neuted out they might get a |
| 3225s | Navy with them but the new pressure is |
| 3226s | going to make them fold by the time they |
| 3228s | uh get done killing that |
| 3230s | yeah they're clearly spooled up on this |
| 3232s | get and they all managed to break |
| 3233s | through him and it's going to be in a |
| 3235s | two Battleship versus two Battleship |
| 3236s | situation of course two on one side all |
| 3238s | the Shacks but I'm not sure if it's |
| 3239s | going to be enough as you say the new |
| 3240s | pressure is going to be overwhelming |
| 3241s | from this point from the get a navy and |
| 3243s | the Bal gun the Battleground are |
| 3244s | obviously simply just cannot mute out |
| 3246s | um you know if it's got not as fitted it |
| 3248s | will not you if it's full cap it'll |
| 3250s | still not you so noses on Bal guns |
| 3252s | pretty good newts on Battlegrounds also |
| 3254s | pretty damn good so you know little |
| 3255s | Shacks here without lodgy |
| 3258s | um are just not going to win this DPS |
| 3259s | race against the two battleships and all |
| 3260s | the support that's left the spiffle |
| 3262s | obviously still pumping out damage the |
| 3263s | Mala for news |
| 3264s | um yeah it's gonna be yeah it's just |
| 3267s | picking apart the rest of kitchen |
| 3268s | sinkhole here and they're just gonna |
| 3270s | then flock under these little Shucks and |
| 3272s | they're gonna go down even quicker I do |
| 3275s | not see kitchen signal being able to |
| 3276s | kill a single ship left on grid at this |
| 3278s | point I think they're both just about |
| 3280s | neuted out they're still shooting but |
| 3282s | longer this match goes on the less |
| 3284s | capacitor they're gonna have |
| 3286s | yeah and of course like I said at the |
| 3288s | start with the medium use on the curse |
| 3289s | Brave also bringing a mallow which I'm |
| 3291s | going to presume is full new fit as well |
| 3292s | and those things can be absolutely |
| 3294s | really really devastating especially to |
| 3296s | lodgy frigates but also to battleships |
| 3298s | that have you know they've got maybe |
| 3299s | cathode 3200 so I think you know we need |
| 3301s | to keep cap up over the course of match |
| 3303s | get as much cap into your cargo hold as |
| 3304s | possible you can just pump it out |
| 3305s | quickly but it's not nearly quick enough |
| 3307s | to deal with the new thing of a mallow |
| 3308s | in your low on cap when you're empty it |
| 3310s | just you can't do anything you can't |
| 3312s | play the game really |
| 3314s | exactly it seems like they're if they |
| 3316s | could manage to trade to get this get in |
| 3319s | Navy now it's going to be a lot of new |
| 3321s | pressure left on that last Little Shack |
| 3323s | but they they're going to be in a you |
| 3325s | know Battleship 1v1 that's still not |
| 3327s | looking in their favor but it's the only |
| 3328s | change they have is if they can hope |
| 3329s | that this one lashac survives long |
| 3331s | enough to get this Navy Armageddon down |
| 3334s | a very tanky ship it does not look like |
| 3336s | that is going to happen though |
| 3338s | yeah I think maybe at the end here it |
| 3340s | looks like it could have gone a little |
| 3341s | bit closer if sinkhole had maybe |
| 3343s | or 30 more seconds with their Griffins |
| 3345s | before they were able to switch |
| 3347s | um damaging a little you know 30 seconds |
| 3349s | longer pumping into that first get a |
| 3350s | Navy with little Shanks getting spalled |
| 3351s | up before the new pressure starts |
| 3353s | affecting them they might have been able |
| 3354s | to turn this but it is now just going to |
| 3355s | be brought slowly dying instantly I'm |
| 3357s | not going to die just on his own from |
| 3359s | the damage from one little shot coming |
| 3360s | in with his lodgy frigates that are live |
| 3361s | and I just want to talk about the bands |
| 3363s | for a second because Brave Collective as |
| 3365s | they said on the desk choosing to ban |
| 3366s | more or less carries it's quite an |
| 3367s | interesting |
| 3368s | um choice because if you're flying kite |
| 3371s | you want to damp people right because |
| 3372s | you're saying we want to fight you at |
| 3374s | range |
| 3375s | um you know so you you need to burn into |
| 3376s | us but if you're flying brawl you also |
| 3378s | want to damp people dance also very |
| 3379s | useful in that scenario as well so it |
| 3381s | kind of it's a very powerful utility |
| 3383s | band because it's it doesn't really give |
| 3385s | anything away about how you want to fly |
| 3386s | the match because these these ships are |
| 3388s | useful in so many different comps so it |
| 3390s | doesn't tell the opponent you know we're |
| 3391s | going to fly kite |
| 3393s | yeah I was going to say it does seem |
| 3395s | like those bands are basic in the sense |
| 3397s | that it doesn't allow teams to play very |
| 3399s | good Mind Games it doesn't give any |
| 3401s | tells and it just you know is something |
| 3403s | that people don't necessarily want to |
| 3405s | see in any circumstance but with that |
| 3407s | being said our final shot goes down |
| 3409s | which wraps up the match and we will be |
| 3410s | sending it back to the desk |
| 3419s | side was up |
| 3422s | [Music] |
| 3432s | [Music] |
| 3436s | here and today I'm so pumping look here |
| 3439s | at the crowd is jumping pump it up a |
| 3442s | little more get the party going on the |
| 3444s | Dance Floor |
| 3448s | [Music] |
| 3470s | foreign |
| 3473s | [Music] |
| 3477s | there you have it ladies and gentlemen |
| 3478s | Brave Collective taking out kitchen |
| 3480s | sinkhole uh in a pretty comfortable |
| 3483s | Victory there for the brave Collective |
| 3487s | um mystical might I believe you had in |
| 3490s | the fantasy match uh brief Collective |
| 3493s | and for your final of brick collective |
| 3495s | in fact chose kitchen sinkhole uh you |
| 3497s | must be feeling pretty pretty happy |
| 3499s | right now |
| 3500s | yep I mean you know easy Point secured |
| 3503s | I'm sure jintan just tried to throw at |
| 3504s | me that I'm minus 400 points somehow but |
| 3506s | I he's gonna have to explain the maths |
| 3508s | on that one to me because as as it goes |
| 3510s | I'm feeling like a winner right now |
| 3512s | well right now teams can only be |
| 3515s | guaranteed either out of the feeders or |
| 3518s | in the tournament and if you're in the |
| 3520s | tournament you can have it you know the |
| 3521s | lowest result you could get is minus 10 |
| 3523s | points and if you're still in the fetus |
| 3525s | the lowest you could get is minus 100 |
| 3526s | points if you fail to qualify for the |
| 3529s | real tournament |
| 3530s | so all of your other picks have yet to |
| 3532s | qualify mystery I see I see okay don't |
| 3534s | worry they're all going to get through |
| 3536s | I've picked up the very best |
| 3540s | of boys |
| 3543s | now one of the things guys I wanted to |
| 3545s | talk about uh was the the use of the |
| 3548s | double the shack we don't see them very |
| 3550s | often uh there was a period in I believe |
| 3553s | Alliance tournament 16 which was |
| 3554s | sponsored by the true believing |
| 3556s | Collective when the Shacks had uh a |
| 3558s | significantly reduced point where they |
| 3561s | were super popular not only that they |
| 3562s | were also pretty popular as flagships |
| 3564s | um in this term we have no flagships |
| 3566s | there are 25 points I think that's |
| 3568s | that's a lot of points that's 52 points |
| 3571s | because of Point inflation uh or 50 |
| 3573s | points if they're 24 I cannot math |
| 3576s | um jintan tell me why would you choose |
| 3578s | to bring two of the Shacks uh it's a |
| 3580s | huge number of points however many they |
| 3581s | may be |
| 3583s | now I don't know exactly what you choose |
| 3585s | to bring to the Shacks but I can tell |
| 3587s | you why you'd bring one and you bring |
| 3588s | one because |
| 3590s | Ayla Shack on its own it fulfills one of |
| 3592s | the three corners of the triangle that |
| 3594s | you want to have when you're talking |
| 3595s | about a Eve online Alliance tournament |
| 3598s | team and the first triangle is you have |
| 3600s | 3000 DPS and all the shack can do that |
| 3603s | on its own |
| 3604s | from that point basically the rest of |
| 3606s | your comp doesn't need to do any damage |
| 3609s | so you can focus really really hard on |
| 3611s | having support control something to stop |
| 3613s | your opponent's game plan for being put |
| 3615s | into effect and you can sync all the |
| 3617s | remaining 75 points that you have to |
| 3618s | your disposal on that in this case |
| 3621s | however you bring two of them and that |
| 3623s | means that you do an incredible amount |
| 3625s | of damage but you don't really have the |
| 3627s | support that you need to get those |
| 3628s | attracted position and to keep them |
| 3631s | firing until that damage is actually you |
| 3634s | know will take effect because it takes |
| 3636s | around two three minutes for our track |
| 3638s | to spool up to that level of DPS and |
| 3641s | you're not going to be able to do that |
| 3642s | on your own as you saw those Griffins |
| 3644s | you know they played a role they stopped |
| 3647s | they were trying to get them there but |
| 3649s | it wasn't enough if those have been |
| 3651s | kitsunes or some form of you know Heavy |
| 3654s | Cruiser that could go in there and maybe |
| 3656s | smash aside the wolf pack of Braves |
| 3658s | tackle uh kitchen sinkhole would have |
| 3660s | been able to win this match but they |
| 3662s | just weren't able to do it |
| 3664s | yeah Misty we also saw |
| 3666s | um what some might consider questionable |
| 3668s | tactics uh spilling the Shacks on uh |
| 3672s | Logistics frigates why might that not be |
| 3675s | the the smartest of ideas here |
| 3677s | well that that's making an assumption |
| 3679s | all right maybe you should be asking why |
| 3682s | is that the optimal strategy to be using |
| 3684s | a little tracking |
| 3685s | um okay so it's not optimal because |
| 3687s | you're not going to be doing your damage |
| 3688s | right it's incredibly hard to track |
| 3690s | Logistics frigates Gentile mentioned |
| 3692s | this |
| 3693s | um I believe in the recap of the |
| 3694s | previous match |
| 3696s | um unless you have the proper support |
| 3697s | which is Target painters and webs they |
| 3701s | are extremely hard to hit with large |
| 3702s | turrets now there isn't an interesting |
| 3705s | mechanic in Eve online called The |
| 3707s | Wrecking mechanic right where you can |
| 3710s | get wrecking shots with your guns and I |
| 3712s | believe that means that it will apply |
| 3714s | regardless of whether it should apply if |
| 3716s | you roll the dice and you get that |
| 3717s | Wrecking shot so if you spool with the |
| 3719s | shack and you miss 100 out of 101 shots |
| 3723s | that 101th shot that you have will be |
| 3726s | fully spooled regardless of whether it |
| 3728s | hit or not and it will do wrecking |
| 3730s | damage on top so you can volley things |
| 3732s | that you can't hit |
| 3733s | but I don't know if that's worth |
| 3735s | gambling your 10 minutes of ate feeder |
| 3737s | time trying to do I think there were |
| 3739s | better ways for them to fly which is |
| 3741s | pulling their entire comp backwards |
| 3743s | protecting their Griffins from the |
| 3745s | drones that were put on them they were |
| 3747s | holding the Griffins for a while but the |
| 3749s | drones eventually broke through the Reps |
| 3751s | that the auger was able to provide and |
| 3753s | the Navy exec was called out of position |
| 3755s | by the newting Mauler that brave brought |
| 3757s | meaning that it was capped out and also |
| 3760s | unable to contribute damage wise to any |
| 3762s | of the ships on the kitchen Hole uh |
| 3765s | sorry on the brave side |
| 3767s | of their pulled back and instead |
| 3769s | skirmished with the wolf pack that brave |
| 3773s | had and they may have been able to clear |
| 3774s | some of the uh the speed pool |
| 3778s | um and The Punisher that brave we're |
| 3781s | using to pin down ships and then use |
| 3783s | their ships to screen some of the Brave |
| 3785s | Collective battleships and that may have |
| 3786s | helped them draw out the match a bit |
| 3789s | ultimately I think it was down to poor |
| 3791s | position and also poor Target calling |
| 3793s | because really lashak should have just |
| 3795s | been shooting |
| 3795s | something bigger like the battleships |
| 3797s | from the beginning |
| 3799s | yeah we saw some of that chatter going |
| 3801s | on in our sort of production channels uh |
| 3803s | people were saying you know why don't |
| 3805s | you just control space your ships and |
| 3807s | and do more damage because you're just |
| 3808s | kind of like orbiting with your Market |
| 3810s | Drive on and out tracking yourself uh |
| 3812s | just gentan you've played in a bunch of |
| 3814s | matches uh how easy is it to kind of |
| 3816s | spaghetti in these matches like you go |
| 3818s | in thinking hey I know exactly what I'm |
| 3820s | going to do and then the timer has zero |
| 3822s | and then suddenly you're like well |
| 3824s | gaming am I playing is this Minecraft is |
| 3825s | it can just be super stressful tell me |
| 3827s | about that |
| 3829s | oh it is yeah it is a really stressful |
| 3831s | thing to do playing in an actual at |
| 3833s | match uh because |
| 3835s | there's two parts to it first of all |
| 3838s | playing Eve online at like a perfect |
| 3840s | level or as close as you can humanly do |
| 3842s | it is really really difficult because |
| 3844s | you're not relying on your approach your |
| 3846s | right click approaches you're not |
| 3847s | relying on your right click orbits you |
| 3850s | are manually clicking in Space the whole |
| 3851s | time and then whilst you're doing that |
| 3853s | you've got to activate your modules |
| 3855s | you've got to manage your heat you've |
| 3856s | got to put your drones out you've got to |
| 3857s | look up your look up both your opponents |
| 3860s | and your allies you've got to be keeping |
| 3861s | an eye on positioning if you're a tackle |
| 3863s | ship you've got to watch your primary |
| 3865s | tackle Target and also keep an eye out |
| 3866s | to see if there's any lanes free you'd |
| 3868s | go on to Logistics if you're in a |
| 3870s | battleship you're probably taking some |
| 3872s | sort of a higher higher level command |
| 3874s | role because you're the ship that most |
| 3876s | desperately needs to be in the right |
| 3878s | position so you're trying to keep an eye |
| 3880s | on what all of your allies are doing and |
| 3881s | how that's interacting with what your |
| 3883s | opponents are doing and from all of that |
| 3885s | your mechanics you know the things that |
| 3887s | you've spent years and years training up |
| 3889s | playing Eve they go all out the window |
| 3891s | and it's just a bunch of people throwing |
| 3892s | spaghetti each other in the middle of |
| 3894s | the Arena after about five minutes and |
| 3896s | then whoever realizes that they aren't |
| 3897s | tackled and they can get to the |
| 3899s | logistics usually wins |
| 3901s | that's it's pretty much sums up the |
| 3903s | experience especially for teams who |
| 3905s | maybe have less experience uh overall |
| 3907s | which is one of the reasons why I think |
| 3908s | the feeders are being on Thunderdome is |
| 3910s | such a good idea because we've got teams |
| 3913s | who maybe have never competed before you |
| 3915s | just have to register you just have to |
| 3916s | sign up to be part of this like it's |
| 3919s | basically free uh I think it's 500 Plex |
| 3922s | just to just to buy in and that's kind |
| 3925s | of it you just turn up you get to play |
| 3926s | and you get to have a chance to win some |
| 3928s | cool ships and if you bring some cheese |
| 3929s | thing and you know don't let your memes |
| 3932s | be dreams as the as they say maybe you |
| 3934s | you walk away uh with your head held |
| 3936s | high uh at the end of the day you're not |
| 3937s | gonna lose anything of of True Value |
| 3940s | um now you mentioned briefly |
| 3942s | um this concept of you know if you lose |
| 3945s | the target like you you get a bit stuck |
| 3948s | on what you're doing and it's very easy |
| 3949s | to do a Target fixation I think we saw a |
| 3951s | little about that in that last match uh |
| 3953s | with those Shacks just spilling and |
| 3954s | spilling and spilling Misty as you said |
| 3956s | trying to get that Wrecking shot and |
| 3958s | it's just at some point you have to |
| 3960s | switch off early because you have to |
| 3963s | realize hey the strategy is not working |
| 3964s | we can't just keep doing the same thing |
| 3965s | we have to try uh change it that call of |
| 3969s | what we're doing is not working let's |
| 3971s | change uh like how hard is that to make |
| 3973s | in a match |
| 3976s | I would say it's incredibly difficult |
| 3979s | depending on team Dynamic one of the |
| 3982s | important things that I think good teams |
| 3984s | have is communication and it's not all |
| 3986s | one person making decisions for the |
| 3988s | teammates it's a number of different |
| 3990s | people in different roles streaming |
| 3992s | information in collect so you'll have |
| 3995s | the logistics pilot explaining how |
| 3997s | difficult it is keeping a Target up and |
| 3999s | you'll have your damage ships talking |
| 4001s | about whether they're screened or |
| 4002s | whether they're applying a damage you'll |
| 4004s | have your tackle ship saying whether |
| 4005s | they have their tackles or not or who |
| 4007s | they're burning for and based on all of |
| 4009s | that information it makes it easier to |
| 4011s | make your decisions because you know |
| 4012s | what's happening if you're leaving it to |
| 4015s | one person to decide whether to swap off |
| 4016s | of a Target then you're never going to |
| 4019s | really know okay how is the rest of the |
| 4021s | match progressing around me and do we |
| 4023s | need to make a different decision at |
| 4024s | this point to keep ourselves in the game |
| 4027s | and also another thing is the cycle cost |
| 4029s | fallacy which is what keeps most of us |
| 4030s | playing Eve online I'm sure which is |
| 4033s | you've put enough damage into a Target |
| 4034s | already so you don't want to swap off of |
| 4037s | that Target especially if you have |
| 4038s | leshacks which spoil up over time |
| 4040s | because then you're resetting that |
| 4042s | damage back to its base level and you |
| 4044s | have to begin again so there's a number |
| 4046s | of different factors to consider |
| 4047s | especially depending on the comp that |
| 4049s | you're using Le Shack's probably suffer |
| 4051s | from this a bit more than any other ship |
| 4053s | but um yeah it's it's extremely |
| 4055s | difficult it's a team game for sure and |
| 4058s | it shouldn't be left up to one person |
| 4060s | exactly right now speaking of uh a team |
| 4064s | game well you guys out there in |
| 4065s | twitchland you could be part of this too |
| 4066s | you can use your Twitch Channel points |
| 4068s | and you can uh predict who you think is |
| 4071s | going to win |
| 4073s | um and you can exchange those for some |
| 4074s | pretty cool prizes uh you know random |
| 4077s | gal net uh skins uh you can if you want |
| 4080s | to you can highlight your message I |
| 4082s | would keep it for the Skins personally |
| 4083s | um and then maybe even save them up |
| 4085s | until the main event because we have |
| 4087s | seen plenty of cool prizes uh in the |
| 4089s | alliance tournament the past ranging |
| 4091s | from Eve online watches to uh so some |
| 4094s | other rare and interesting things now |
| 4096s | looking at the the current predictions |
| 4097s | the Ancients seem to be the crowd |
| 4100s | favorite right now nearly 600 000 |
| 4102s | Channel points to just 160 000 for worm |
| 4106s | again Wormhole is not doing so hot thus |
| 4109s | far in the alliance tournament we have |
| 4111s | only got to match four and already we've |
| 4113s | got more than that number of Wormhole |
| 4115s | teams eliminated because some of them |
| 4117s | didn't even turn up uh so it's it's |
| 4119s | pretty pretty rough for wormholes right |
| 4121s | now Mark resurrectus in absolute |
| 4124s | shambles |
| 4125s | let's take a quick look at the bands |
| 4127s | here so the Ancients Banning out Burgess |
| 4129s | and curse and worm again Banning out |
| 4132s | the I can't see it |
| 4136s | the carries and the series |
| 4138s | there we are |
| 4140s | um so uh mystical my quick 20 second uh |
| 4143s | thoughts on these bands |
| 4145s | okay I assume with the carries in the |
| 4146s | summer top band that again they don't |
| 4148s | want to deal with fast ships that are |
| 4149s | able to project their damps and prevent |
| 4152s | their team from I guess establishing |
| 4154s | lock or you know whether that's due to |
| 4157s | distance stamps like targeting range or |
| 4159s | scanners damps for the logistics |
| 4161s | interestingly the Scimitar suggests that |
| 4163s | they don't want to go up against fast |
| 4164s | kiting comps that are hard to pin down |
| 4166s | because the Scimitar is infamously quick |
| 4169s | and able to provide fairly decent wraps |
| 4172s | it's not as strong as the Basilisk but |
| 4173s | it's still fairly good and the class is |
| 4176s | just I guess an old time classic of |
| 4178s | ships people don't want to see it on an |
| 4180s | 80 grid because of the new projection |
| 4182s | but also the e-war that you can get in |
| 4185s | the midst |
| 4186s | exactly now it is time to head over to |
| 4188s | the arena for the Ancients versus worm |
| 4190s | again uh with Alexi and |
| 4198s | g'day there mates and I'm bloody excited |
| 4200s | because we've got a lot of Mega Thrones |
| 4202s | here and we've got my favorite ship in |
| 4203s | the world part by part I actually know a |
| 4206s | Vindicator is on grid kiat so you better |
| 4208s | do this well and I like I'm I'm so |
| 4210s | excited this will be so good |
| 4213s | yeah this is going to be a banger of a |
| 4214s | match we have a lot of blaster damage on |
| 4216s | the field some new pressure as well some |
| 4219s | interesting choices here the double |
| 4221s | Battleship comp in favor of taking a |
| 4224s | logistic ship versus three battleships |
| 4226s | and the double Logistics frigate |
| 4228s | now what's the one ship of Vindicator |
| 4230s | hates to see it's the ball going it's |
| 4232s | this it's basically a the perfect thing |
| 4234s | to control of indicator so I suspect |
| 4236s | that Vinny's gonna have a lot of trouble |
| 4237s | with the ball if everything is Flowing |
| 4238s | quickly as the match is underway and |
| 4240s | we're gonna watch ships just screaming |
| 4241s | in no wait they're pulling away |
| 4244s | what well this is going to be an |
| 4247s | interesting one if those logistic |
| 4248s | frigates get in too close and The |
| 4250s | Vindicator lands webs on them it is |
| 4252s | going to spell absolute Doom for |
| 4253s | warmageddon but if they can kite away |
| 4256s | and resist the temptation to come in and |
| 4259s | save their battleships from what I'm |
| 4261s | sure is withering amount of fire from |
| 4263s | the brutix Navy Mega navian Vindicator |
| 4265s | and they might be able to win this match |
| 4268s | yeah well the mega Navy got hot tackled |
| 4269s | immediately over hisului and is now |
| 4272s | being tackled by megathron Navy second |
| 4274s | megathon Navy the balgones there there's |
| 4276s | smart bombs going off from Mega Navy of |
| 4277s | blue collory trying to remove drones |
| 4279s | smart bumps on the molar as well this is |
| 4281s | just chaos this is a brawl |
| 4284s | oh it's a brawl and a bit of a race |
| 4286s | which Mega Navy is going to drop first |
| 4288s | that is going to absolutely turn this |
| 4290s | match if the uh if the Ancients Mega |
| 4293s | Navy drops that battle is going to be |
| 4295s | able to spread his nudes throughout the |
| 4296s | entire rest of the team fairly safely |
| 4298s | whereas if the mega Navy from uh |
| 4301s | wormageddon drops that's a significant |
| 4303s | chunk of their DPS they don't really |
| 4305s | have much aside from those three |
| 4306s | battleships |
| 4307s | at all I want blue color to die first |
| 4310s | because he has not won the skin game |
| 4312s | here sweetie Louie's got a sexy skin I'm |
| 4313s | loving it but actually speaking of he is |
| 4315s | starting to go down a bit quicker this |
| 4316s | smart bumps going everywhere these |
| 4317s | drones will not last long this is just |
| 4320s | chaos |
| 4321s | yeah you might be getting your wish here |
| 4323s | uh the nurgle on worm again and one of |
| 4326s | their other very distinct choices is |
| 4328s | flying around not doing a hot anything |
| 4331s | at the minute he's finally starting to |
| 4333s | apply some damage but he's zooming |
| 4335s | around so much I guarantee you he is not |
| 4337s | using his high yield ammo questionable |
| 4339s | Choice by this nergo pilot who is |
| 4342s | basically the DPS of a very well-fit |
| 4345s | hack being effectively wasted here |
| 4348s | he ended up options to chase things out |
| 4350s | I think he was trying to go for |
| 4351s | potentially the moles of the opposing |
| 4352s | side but I think you decide I couldn't |
| 4353s | catch him let's get back but DPS on this |
| 4355s | and finish this race as you can see they |
| 4357s | are starting to win now that Louis in |
| 4359s | the uh Mega Navy he's going into Hull |
| 4361s | and black uh blue color sorry is still |
| 4363s | in armor so this is looking bad and it's |
| 4366s | gonna start looking worse if that Mega |
| 4367s | Navy goes down it's going to be a |
| 4369s | landslide real quick |
| 4372s | here |
| 4376s | and the smop them's going it's a race |
| 4380s | oh and there he goes off |
| 4385s | from the ancients |
| 4388s | that's gonna get so much worse now |
| 4389s | because now the mega Navy might even |
| 4391s | survive for a lot longer than he should |
| 4393s | he is I think he's about to die yeah |
| 4394s | thankfully he goes down he's like maybe |
| 4396s | he's now and you just see the cloud of |
| 4398s | drones |
| 4400s | massive cloud |
| 4403s | they have Smart bumped off so many |
| 4405s | drones and yet more still showing up I |
| 4408s | love galente fights |
| 4410s | yeah entrance electing to bring multiple |
| 4412s | waves of light drones in their expanded |
| 4415s | galante drone bays and it's paying off |
| 4416s | for them here as they're able to refresh |
| 4418s | their drone count |
| 4421s | yeah but unfortunately |
| 4422s | from the ancients |
| 4425s | big chunk of damage that is about a |
| 4427s | thousand DPS off the field |
| 4430s | I think as well as this bargain is going |
| 4432s | to be putting new pressure on these |
| 4433s | ships the entire fight so The Vindicator |
| 4435s | of chiatsi and maybe even other ships |
| 4437s | are just slowly being hurt by this this |
| 4439s | is actually hold on a minute |
| 4442s | yeah it's about it's a gun |
| 4446s | I I for a split second I saw a remote |
| 4448s | repair effect like wait wait what but no |
| 4450s | that that's a ship definitely passed |
| 4454s | it's not nearly as much |
| 4457s | as much like right now he's focusing on |
| 4459s | the ineros so he's not reducing any |
| 4462s | incoming DPS he's focusing on taking out |
| 4465s | the logistics |
| 4467s | about to go down too yeah I bet you that |
| 4470s | moles is going down to yep the |
| 4473s | um |
| 4474s | where is it I think that was the uh |
| 4476s | nurgle no it wasn't |
| 4478s | pontifex |
| 4479s | doesn't make us that did that oh wow |
| 4481s | respect |
| 4485s | and the lone logistic ship from the |
| 4488s | field here for worm again he is starting |
| 4491s | to take some negative attention here as |
| 4493s | he's surrounded by a massive cloud of |
| 4495s | light drones dipping into about |
| 4496s | one-third armor here they may trade him |
| 4499s | for this brutix Navy issue but that is |
| 4501s | honestly not a great trade |
| 4503s | and meanwhile the nearest is hot tackled |
| 4505s | by Magus and a skybreaker so if they |
| 4507s | want to go kill him they easily can |
| 4508s | Riggs maybe going down there and there's |
| 4510s | I'm not seeing much sub the Deacon going |
| 4511s | down what's this Vindicator doing |
| 4521s | is focusing on just newting out zero |
| 4525s | cool my co-host for the Declarations of |
| 4527s | War podcast keeping him absolutely |
| 4529s | powerless as he is tackled by the sky |
| 4531s | breaker and neuted down by the balgorn |
| 4533s | taking him out of the fight essentially |
| 4535s | but unfortunately it means the rest of |
| 4538s | the Ancients DPS is able to run freely |
| 4541s | and now we see this brutix Navy pulling |
| 4544s | back some armor obviously the uh a Nero |
| 4547s | stopping a cap charger too able to get |
| 4549s | some reps in |
| 4551s | yeah I was watching The Vindicator of |
| 4552s | keatsu and for a while he wasn't |
| 4553s | shooting me now he's putting his damage |
| 4555s | back into the mega names I'm willing to |
| 4556s | bet he might have just loaded void so |
| 4558s | he's trying to kill him as quickly as he |
| 4559s | can see now the gun barrel starting also |
| 4561s | to shoot The Vindicator so they're |
| 4563s | trying to remove some of the last bits |
| 4564s | of DPS as honestly that bricks Navy is |
| 4566s | tanking very well |
| 4568s | I am not seeing any neutralizing effects |
| 4571s | coming off of the background right now |
| 4572s | it may have run out of cap |
| 4575s | yeah or maybe like yeah |
| 4578s | doing oh there you go oh no he's now |
| 4580s | he's reapplied it now he's reapplied |
| 4583s | yeah there we go |
| 4585s | back over half of its hit points they're |
| 4588s | trying yeah |
| 4592s | he's gonna start ripping Cassie now |
| 4593s | there you go some see some reps onto the |
| 4594s | Vindicator beautiful good timing there |
| 4596s | at this point this is now ancient's game |
| 4598s | but they've got the DPS they've got |
| 4601s | enough control left they've got their |
| 4602s | lodgy is holding strong |
| 4604s | there's nothing this balgorn can do the |
| 4606s | Balkan can nuke one of these ships out |
| 4607s | maybe even with you know guns on it but |
| 4609s | at this point he's kind of screwed as |
| 4612s | this ship this team is now pulling back |
| 4613s | into the match I love this this was this |
| 4616s | was so well flown it was chaos but it |
| 4618s | was organized chaos |
| 4620s | yeah loving seeing all the the Noir |
| 4623s | mercenaries and former nor alums here on |
| 4626s | the Ancients team absolutely carrying |
| 4628s | the day here with Superior piloting |
| 4630s | as you would expect |
| 4635s | some MPS here as well from uh from uh |
| 4638s | ebwf funnink so it's good to see one |
| 4642s | last burst of armor but he's about to |
| 4643s | drop and there he goes |
| 4645s | and that's awesome the hope of worm |
| 4648s | again for carrying this match |
| 4651s | that was chaos that was beautiful and of |
| 4655s | course I'm always happy to see a |
| 4657s | Vindicator win let's be honest |
| 4662s | standing strong |
| 4665s | I think so far today 100 win rate for |
| 4668s | Vindicator right right |
| 4670s | [Laughter] |
| 4672s | hopefully it stays there now with that |
| 4673s | balancer and out he is able to pull back |
| 4675s | even more armor uh the British Navy |
| 4677s | issue is still taking some fire likely |
| 4680s | from the nurgle which like I said packs |
| 4682s | an incredible punch but he just got |
| 4683s | absolutely nuked he is gone |
| 4686s | the Magus is zipping around attempting |
| 4689s | to stay alive but is now drawing the |
| 4691s | attention of a big flight of drones as |
| 4693s | the sky breaker and Magus live to win or |
| 4696s | attempt to we've got two minutes left |
| 4698s | and a lot of ground to cover in this |
| 4700s | match they are probably gonna die as |
| 4702s | this Magus is now catching a lot of |
| 4704s | damage from the drones |
| 4706s | is not exactly known for their speed |
| 4709s | wing nut |
| 4710s | yeah I mean you can make him make as |
| 4712s | fast but it's not normally the smart |
| 4713s | thing to do but yeah um there was so |
| 4716s | many drones there was I saw at least |
| 4718s | three ships with smart bombs removing |
| 4719s | joints everyone kind of knew what was |
| 4720s | coming |
| 4721s | like they even brought a Belgium which |
| 4723s | is like I said pretty much the perfect |
| 4724s | Vindicator counter and it was just a |
| 4727s | brawling chaos |
| 4729s | and yet yeah the vindicate comes up on |
| 4731s | top because the Vindicator is the best |
| 4732s | ship |
| 4737s | it's one of my favorites it's it's been |
| 4740s | a long time favorite one of the ships I |
| 4742s | dreamed to be able to get in when I was |
| 4744s | a young new growing up in syndicate |
| 4746s | uh now the sky breaker's trying to take |
| 4748s | some damage it's going to be dropping |
| 4750s | relatively quickly here although it is a |
| 4752s | fairly low Sig ship so it may last a |
| 4755s | little bit unfortunately it does not fit |
| 4758s | for maximum speed and the Drone cloud is |
| 4760s | caught up to it and it drops as we throw |
| 4762s | this back to the desk |
| 4768s | [Music] |
| 4778s | [Music] |
| 4790s | thank you |
| 4798s | [Music] |
| 4808s | [Music] |
| 4826s | why |
| 4828s | are you thinking |
| 4831s | [Music] |
| 4832s | [Applause] |
| 4843s | a well-timed advert there are four fun |
| 4846s | Inc uh of course led up by kiate who was |
| 4849s | in that match there with the Ancients |
| 4851s | they secure themselves a place in |
| 4853s | Alliance tournament 19 at the expense of |
| 4856s | worm again wormholers still struggling |
| 4859s | to to get on the board here today uh it |
| 4861s | has not been a good good couple of |
| 4863s | matches for the Wormhole Collective uh |
| 4867s | in in new Eden so maybe they can turn |
| 4869s | around we have a couple of more matches |
| 4871s | later on which feature wormholes uh we |
| 4873s | will see no vacancies coming along so |
| 4875s | perhaps they can carry that torch for |
| 4877s | all of Wormhole kind uh and and secure |
| 4880s | the the first of the W's for for the |
| 4883s | wormholes Wormhole guys that would be |
| 4885s | super cool |
| 4887s | um now let's go back and look at that |
| 4888s | last match first of all we saw the the |
| 4890s | choice to go three battleships versus |
| 4892s | two battleships one team had the |
| 4896s | opportunity to bring Cruiser Lodge to |
| 4897s | the other side they didn't have enough |
| 4898s | points by choosing that third Battleship |
| 4900s | they had to go with uh Logistics |
| 4902s | frigates instead said mystical might |
| 4905s | what do you think about this this |
| 4906s | decision here do you favor the extra |
| 4908s | power of that third Battleship or do you |
| 4910s | do you favor the stronger Logistics |
| 4912s | Cruiser |
| 4913s | uh in this case I favor the stronger |
| 4916s | Logistics Cruiser over the two frigates |
| 4920s | um there are a number of things that we |
| 4921s | typed in the production Channel based on |
| 4923s | that match uh the first thing that I |
| 4924s | typed was actually |
| 4926s | um aniros plus two battleships versus |
| 4928s | double Deacon through battleships who |
| 4930s | dies first right |
| 4932s | um theoretically |
| 4933s | three battleships does more damage than |
| 4935s | two battleships |
| 4937s | um theoretically but with the two |
| 4939s | battleships you also get the Britax Navy |
| 4942s | issue you get the exact Navy issue you |
| 4943s | get the thorax and you get stronger reps |
| 4946s | which means that essentially you're |
| 4948s | adding up to a third Battleship between |
| 4950s | those other three ships and if you're |
| 4952s | focusing damage onto the same Target you |
| 4954s | should win the uh rep race between the |
| 4958s | Narrows and the double deacons now I |
| 4960s | think the Ancients could have made their |
| 4962s | match a lot simpler by switching to the |
| 4965s | deacons at the beginning with The |
| 4966s | Vindicator webs I was flaming them a |
| 4969s | little bit in the back channels for not |
| 4970s | doing so earlier and right after I did |
| 4972s | they decided to swap and actually delete |
| 4974s | two deacons which made trading a lot |
| 4976s | easier later on |
| 4978s | um so that there are there are a number |
| 4980s | of ways that the Ancients could have |
| 4981s | made it easier for themselves but I |
| 4982s | think ultimately they were in a better |
| 4983s | position to win just because they had |
| 4985s | the Narrows to begin with |
| 4988s | yeah also when you see the two deacons |
| 4990s | and then one of them just got uh skunked |
| 4993s | at one point and disappeared |
| 4995s | um that last remaining Deacon is |
| 4997s | essentially kind of useless it doesn't |
| 4999s | rev that much uh he has very limited |
| 5001s | range and figures and about uh his |
| 5003s | buddies to rep them then he's also |
| 5005s | probably going to get killed uh and |
| 5007s | obviously that's that's just a pilot |
| 5008s | that's now no longer you know really |
| 5010s | being able to to contribute much to to |
| 5012s | the match uh jintan obviously the the |
| 5015s | rep range for Logistics frigates um is |
| 5018s | is a lot less they're a lot less tanky |
| 5019s | they do have a good signature radius |
| 5022s | are there good scenarios where actually |
| 5024s | picking two Logistics frigates is better |
| 5026s | than picking that uh Logistics Cruiser |
| 5030s | yeah absolutely I think we saw that in |
| 5033s | the previous match not the one that we |
| 5034s | just watched but the game that was I |
| 5037s | believe Brave Collective versus kitchen |
| 5039s | sinkhole you know if you if you are |
| 5042s | facing an opponent where you've either |
| 5043s | banned out or you just don't expect them |
| 5045s | to be bringing a good support core due |
| 5048s | to what you've seen from them in the |
| 5049s | past or their bands or something similar |
| 5051s | to that bringing a logistics frigate can |
| 5053s | allow you to put more power into your |
| 5055s | setup and also prevent your Logistics |
| 5058s | from being destroyed uh through some |
| 5061s | conventional matters for example if you |
| 5062s | expect your opponents to be bringing |
| 5063s | kingslayer you know throwing out three |
| 5066s | rapid heavy missile ships with the pure |
| 5068s | intent of killing off your Logistics |
| 5070s | Cruiser and using that to snowball an |
| 5072s | advantage of momentum uh then bringing |
| 5074s | Logistics frigates and preventing that |
| 5076s | from having the same impact on your team |
| 5078s | even if you're not going to enable your |
| 5080s | Logistics frigates to survive you can |
| 5082s | put you in such a good position moving |
| 5084s | forwards against an opposing team |
| 5086s | the other thing Gentile I wanted to ask |
| 5088s | you about is uh we heard the casters |
| 5090s | talking about it in that last match the |
| 5092s | gun bow uh talk to me about the gun |
| 5095s | battle |
| 5096s | so the gumbo well whether or not to put |
| 5099s | guns on your bowel gone is a |
| 5100s | long-standing kind of theory crafting |
| 5103s | debate between various teams I think |
| 5105s | it's generally like the the top the |
| 5108s | higher a team is the more likely you are |
| 5110s | to see a bow with no guns fit on it used |
| 5113s | and you know lower down in the right so |
| 5116s | you're probably going to see more teams |
| 5117s | where the captain wants to be able to |
| 5118s | have an immediate impact and leverage it |
| 5121s | for example if it's a um a flagship bout |
| 5124s | those wonderful wonderful office guns |
| 5126s | which make you feel incredibly special |
| 5127s | or powerful when you're putting out a |
| 5129s | thousand DPS and a thousand gigajoules |
| 5132s | of a second of new power oh it's a |
| 5134s | powerful feeling but it's not quite as |
| 5136s | powerful as putting out 2 000 Giga tools |
| 5138s | a second of new pressure unfortunately |
| 5140s | which can turn off basically everything |
| 5142s | in a 50 kilometer radius of you if |
| 5145s | you're flying about them properly |
| 5147s | sure there's a joke to be made about |
| 5149s | turning off everything with a 50 |
| 5150s | kilometer radius of you but I shall |
| 5153s | refrain |
| 5154s | [Laughter] |
| 5156s | all right let's look forward to our next |
| 5158s | match which I am actually quite excited |
| 5160s | for the initiative versus paper numbers |
| 5161s | mystical might April numbers tell me a |
| 5164s | little bit about them |
| 5167s | yeah their numbers paper pretty good now |
| 5171s | um I I think they are favored over the |
| 5174s | initiative by some of the rankings that |
| 5175s | we did |
| 5177s | um in the last stream |
| 5179s | um I'm trying to remember exactly who is |
| 5181s | in paper numbers I'm trying to remember |
| 5182s | if this was uh uh who the corpse are |
| 5188s | oh this is riferson's team right this is |
| 5190s | why |
| 5191s | um Wingnut loves them so much yeah okay |
| 5194s | yeah do not pick them so I I yeah |
| 5197s | they're out it's fine initiative's gonna |
| 5199s | win this one I'm sure |
| 5202s | some hard to take analysis there I |
| 5203s | promise to call my old fraternity uh |
| 5206s | let's look at the the bands for the |
| 5208s | initiative versus paper numbers uh I see |
| 5211s | here at the initiative Banning out the |
| 5213s | uh balgorn and the Nighthawk I'm |
| 5215s | questioning the the look of this |
| 5216s | Battleground Hull but you know the word |
| 5218s | does say balgarh and then the paper |
| 5221s | number scene Banning out the curse and |
| 5223s | the slept near uh jintan what do you |
| 5226s | think of uh of these bands here we just |
| 5227s | talked about the balgorn but you know |
| 5228s | the initiative can bring it actually |
| 5230s | says I think that actually says Bal gong |
| 5232s | there's no R in an N there as far as I |
| 5234s | can tell so it's an interesting new ship |
| 5237s | you know the initiative they're not |
| 5238s | content with just Banning ships that |
| 5240s | their opponents might use they're |
| 5242s | telling them to not use ships they might |
| 5243s | not have heard of you know they're |
| 5244s | bringing up CCP employees being like |
| 5246s | yeah we're gonna need to ban this ship |
| 5248s | they were going to release in uh two |
| 5249s | months just in case yeah they might be |
| 5251s | ahead of it |
| 5252s | is |
| 5254s | they're using ships that no one has |
| 5257s | access to yeah they're trying to say |
| 5259s | yeah that's foul a spalgon will be |
| 5261s | balgorn but they uh they kind of they |
| 5263s | messed it up and uh I'm going to assume |
| 5265s | it's a it's still a valid band uh I |
| 5267s | think we get the in the uh the intent |
| 5269s | that they're trying to ban uh a bulgar |
| 5272s | and I assume the initiative uh will |
| 5274s | eventually you know to spell the ship |
| 5276s | names but luckily we can we can sense |
| 5279s | intent and we'll allow them to have this |
| 5280s | bad mystical might uh what do you think |
| 5282s | uh this match is going to look like with |
| 5283s | based on these bands |
| 5286s | it looks like okay um if they banned the |
| 5289s | bow gone on the initiative side plus the |
| 5291s | Nighthawk then it seems like they want |
| 5293s | to prevent themselves being pinned down |
| 5295s | by something that's extremely difficult |
| 5297s | difficult to kill with the battle on |
| 5298s | because it has projected webs but they |
| 5300s | also don't want to deal with a high |
| 5302s | Shield Rush damage comp like you would |
| 5304s | see with The Nighthawks or the sleptness |
| 5307s | um |
| 5308s | I think it's gonna be fairly interesting |
| 5310s | to see what they bring |
| 5312s | I expect it's going to be a |
| 5316s | Rush comp |
| 5317s | like a galante rush comp I think is |
| 5319s | probably what they'll they'll aim for |
| 5321s | um something that would have a difficult |
| 5322s | time killing a Nighthawk because of the |
| 5324s | Native thermalinkinetic resists |
| 5327s | um so they would be out damaged by the |
| 5328s | Nighthawk and something that would be |
| 5330s | difficult to get past about going |
| 5331s | because it's tanky in news and it webs |
| 5334s | so I'm going to lean towards galante |
| 5337s | rush for the initiative here |
| 5339s | go into Russia will certainly be an |
| 5341s | interesting one we don't see Glenn too |
| 5343s | much very often uh we spoke about this |
| 5345s | early on a little bit uh back in |
| 5346s | yielding days of the alliance tournament |
| 5348s | it was actually kind of common to see uh |
| 5350s | galante Rush which is basically just get |
| 5352s | as much Blaster DPS as possible approach |
| 5355s | F1 uh and then just you know hope for |
| 5358s | the best a solid tactic that many many |
| 5361s | of you null suckers are very familiar |
| 5363s | with just approach F1 and hope uh but it |
| 5366s | doesn't tend to work these days in the |
| 5367s | the more advanced Alliance meta that we |
| 5369s | that we see but it is time to head over |
| 5372s | to the arena and find out who shall win |
| 5374s | between the initiative and paper numbers |
| 5376s | with our casters Baza and Chad Flame |
| 5383s | Hello everybody welcome back to the |
| 5384s | arena so looking at these two comps here |
| 5387s | um the thing that stands out to me is |
| 5389s | Rife Eisen so if you're watching the |
| 5390s | draft show last week you would have seen |
| 5392s | that Wingnut uh he picked paper numbers |
| 5394s | because Rife Eisen loves to mjd |
| 5395s | battleships basically and I've from my |
| 5397s | experience with paper numbers they're |
| 5398s | very good at one of two things either |
| 5399s | they're really good at Shield kite or |
| 5401s | they're really really really good at |
| 5403s | getting getting on ref eisen's back and |
| 5405s | he just mjd strains Melody he finds the |
| 5407s | angle and this is something that's so |
| 5408s | difficult to actually practice against |
| 5410s | how are you gonna you turn up with your |
| 5412s | screen Point you're like so can you guys |
| 5414s | like fill the comp with a battleship |
| 5416s | with an mjd and can you like have him |
| 5419s | perfectly line up 100 kilometer mjd |
| 5421s | every time like it's not something that |
| 5422s | you can actually practice against they |
| 5424s | need to organically detect |
| 5426s | um and figure out you know try and |
| 5428s | steer away from Rife ice and in this mjd |
| 5430s | on the next Navy |
| 5432s | as it seems that Army Navy is currently |
| 5435s | actually just pulling away from the |
| 5436s | fight uh and probably backing up to a |
| 5439s | line to get an MGD that would be I love |
| 5441s | seeing mjd players start the match but |
| 5443s | we see a blackbird instantly going down |
| 5446s | in the low armor and Natalia gone on the |
| 5448s | side of the initiative instantly low |
| 5450s | ends getting chunked by both teams |
| 5453s | yeah I think this is definitely the |
| 5455s | right way for paper numbers to play this |
| 5456s | they have the range on these um medium |
| 5459s | medium gun holes here the brutics maybe |
| 5460s | the harbing Geneva the prophecy Navy |
| 5462s | they've got decent range they've got |
| 5463s | decent projection and application they |
| 5465s | were able to just wipe out the failure |
| 5466s | the Blackbird is kind of holding and |
| 5467s | they don't really see the need to be |
| 5469s | engaged in raw with these two Le Shacks |
| 5471s | um for in it it's gonna need to they |
| 5473s | need to tackle something down and I |
| 5475s | think it needs to be on the exact navies |
| 5476s | to be pushing in here and try and Tackle |
| 5478s | something if they have tackle but I can |
| 5479s | see midi folgan sitting way back um I |
| 5482s | don't see the other exec Navy pushing in |
| 5483s | either so paper numbers are just going |
| 5485s | to kite away from these two Le Shacks |
| 5486s | obviously very very slow |
| 5488s | and with that being said a Celeste is |
| 5490s | currently in the low armor about to get |
| 5492s | chunked if that goes down that is |
| 5493s | definitely going to help paper numbers |
| 5495s | be able to lock a lot farther and |
| 5497s | continue to cut out this game as like |
| 5499s | you said they're doing really good that |
| 5501s | Blackbird just seems to be being tunnel |
| 5503s | visioned they really want to get rid of |
| 5504s | those gyms maybe the Enis can only shoot |
| 5506s | that but it does seem like they need to |
| 5508s | start doing something like getting in on |
| 5510s | top of these battleships as soon as |
| 5511s | possible |
| 5513s | yeah but the big issue now is this hyena |
| 5515s | is just totally controlling these the |
| 5516s | Shacks obviously they've ranged web so |
| 5518s | so powerful little Shacks are just |
| 5519s | trying to get into brawl but obviously |
| 5521s | when they're both webbed by a hyena |
| 5522s | there's just no chance of that they're |
| 5523s | being absolutely left in the dirt here |
| 5525s | by this paper numbers come even the |
| 5526s | Dominic's Navy's just burning away from |
| 5527s | them rifleison is gonna probably not |
| 5529s | even need to use his mjd strategy as uh |
| 5532s | you know he's getting coming up pretty |
| 5533s | close in these exactly maybe now I |
| 5534s | expect to see him stop pumping some |
| 5536s | nukes into the sex Navy of Paxton |
| 5537s | turning off the guns turning off the |
| 5539s | hardeners and he may be dying fairly |
| 5541s | soon I imagine the prop is going to go |
| 5542s | off as well the Mallory's on him of |
| 5543s | Arwen and they are going to start |
| 5544s | pumping through caxon here as he's |
| 5546s | tackled |
| 5548s | yeah I noticed uh the arbitrator does |
| 5550s | not seem to be using any weapon |
| 5552s | disruption probably expected missiles |
| 5554s | brought on missiles and went all in |
| 5555s | hoping that they could win some sort of |
| 5557s | rock paper scissors here as the hyena |
| 5559s | Blackbird just seemed to be the target |
| 5561s | back and forth and then nothing is |
| 5563s | actually seeming to break uh while the |
| 5566s | initiative is losing yet another one of |
| 5568s | their ships in this exact Navy |
| 5570s | yeah my advice to any team who's |
| 5572s | thinking of stacking all your TDS or GDs |
| 5574s | on an arbitrator and sort of gambling |
| 5576s | especially in a two-band scenario like |
| 5578s | you've seen the bands right you see |
| 5579s | balgo Nighthawk sleptner curse is that |
| 5582s | really enough to say they're gonna bring |
| 5583s | missiles everything that brings missiles |
| 5584s | because if they had you know one or two |
| 5586s | TDS in this com in this matchup you know |
| 5588s | they can stick the TVs on the Harvard |
| 5589s | Navy |
| 5591s | they do have some titties |
| 5597s | the Blackbird was probably just |
| 5599s | passively jamming the arbitrator on and |
| 5600s | off yeah yeah I think there's less so |
| 5602s | black would probably have the arbitrary |
| 5603s | to control and that was why he wasn't |
| 5604s | doing it because I mean yeah I would |
| 5606s | have been very surprised to see that |
| 5606s | based on the information available that |
| 5608s | would have been a very bold move from |
| 5609s | initiative there would have been a |
| 5610s | really questionable call yes yeah but we |
| 5614s | are still just seeing the control of of |
| 5617s | this paper numbers comp they did lose |
| 5618s | the Blackbird there but the hyena is |
| 5619s | just keeping everything at Bay here um |
| 5622s | paper number's doing a really great job |
| 5623s | of sort of burning away |
| 5625s | um they stop their ships they Park up |
| 5627s | they get good tracking on something they |
| 5628s | get something tackled they black it and |
| 5629s | then they keep moving again and these |
| 5631s | the Shacks are just constantly chasing |
| 5632s | and it's so fruitless and I think this |
| 5634s | is one of the main weaknesses of these |
| 5635s | double the shack bumps is that if you |
| 5637s | come up against something that you |
| 5639s | haven't caught at the start and doesn't |
| 5640s | want to be in range of you and is happy |
| 5642s | to just play away it's very very |
| 5643s | difficult to spend those points on |
| 5644s | something that can you know help you get |
| 5646s | in range while also not just getting |
| 5647s | killed itself |
| 5649s | I 100 agree with that the Deacon goes |
| 5651s | down it looked like paper numbers was |
| 5653s | having a little bit of application |
| 5654s | problems not that arbitrator was opened |
| 5656s | up and everything was taking but with |
| 5657s | that Deacon going down and the |
| 5658s | arbitrator soon default it looks like |
| 5660s | it's just going to be cleaning up for |
| 5661s | paper numbers uh but the height it did |
| 5663s | go down so maybe those little Shucks can |
| 5665s | actually get on top for a last second |
| 5667s | hope to do their massive amount of spool |
| 5669s | damage and turn this match around but |
| 5671s | it's going to take some really good |
| 5672s | piloting and tackling by that exact |
| 5674s | Magus and Ponte |
| 5676s | yeah I'm not sure that these Cruisers |
| 5677s | are going to be fast enough compared to |
| 5679s | the facts to actually get out of their |
| 5680s | gun range they are pumping through CEO |
| 5682s | CEO he has got some bots on them |
| 5685s | um as well those are actually enemy |
| 5686s | damage Bots acolytes more acolytes |
| 5688s | coming in here he is taking chunks from |
| 5689s | these two lashacks and he can't really |
| 5690s | get away now behind has gone down I |
| 5692s | think Captain shinken's saying well you |
| 5694s | know you're you're dead buddy I need to |
| 5695s | get out of here um he's gonna try and |
| 5697s | burn away before little Shacks look at |
| 5698s | him the wrong way as well |
| 5700s | CEOs is going to go down here yeah he |
| 5703s | does |
| 5704s | yeah he does go though it's interesting |
| 5706s | that uh hopefully Park Bank in the uh |
| 5708s | exec starts doing some Park big things |
| 5710s | and being lodgy MVPs a lot of people |
| 5712s | know him but at under Tula Shacks you |
| 5715s | can't really do a ton in that eni other |
| 5716s | than try to buy as much time as possible |
| 5718s | to burn through one of these |
| 5719s | instructions and survive that's about |
| 5721s | all you can do |
| 5723s | yeah the thing with the exec is in this |
| 5725s | in this matchup you know the Shacks are |
| 5727s | going to be pumping something they want |
| 5728s | to spool on it right so you put all your |
| 5729s | reps on whatever they're spooling on and |
| 5731s | that's kind of it you know you can't |
| 5732s | really do much more you can obviously |
| 5733s | manage your heat you can heat some |
| 5734s | Cycles try and keep them alive the best |
| 5736s | the ability they're not going to be |
| 5737s | swapping targets they're not going to be |
| 5738s | switching to try and volley something |
| 5739s | exactly I'm just going to be spawning |
| 5740s | and pumping through it and Captain shink |
| 5742s | and he is not really holding here he's a |
| 5745s | reasonable range from the Lush hacks but |
| 5746s | I don't think he's fast enough to |
| 5747s | actually get out of the gun range in |
| 5748s | time here I think he might go down it's |
| 5750s | kind of hard to tell |
| 5751s | um they are just burning a straight line |
| 5753s | towards each other away from each other |
| 5754s | so he's not going to have transversal |
| 5755s | but the shanks are going to be able to |
| 5757s | track him fine and we are seeing him |
| 5758s | take chunks but oh he needs to turn at |
| 5760s | some point he's getting kind of close to |
| 5761s | the arena |
| 5763s | yeah getting cornered by those little |
| 5766s | strikes honestly a massive tournament |
| 5768s | event in piloting by the top end over |
| 5770s | here an initiative and it just seems |
| 5773s | like they're cornering the uh paper |
| 5774s | numbers team against the edge and just |
| 5776s | allowing these little Shucks to do work |
| 5778s | which is what they wanted to do earlier |
| 5779s | in the match that e-ore from paper |
| 5781s | numbers took a while to die and that is |
| 5783s | what has got them to this point but now |
| 5785s | that those checks are free to do what |
| 5786s | they want it seems like they are |
| 5788s | dominating the paper numbers team |
| 5790s | whenever they get close enough to do |
| 5791s | that |
| 5793s | yeah I think it was it's it's difficult |
| 5794s | I mean sorry it's easy it's easy late in |
| 5797s | the match part bank but early on the |
| 5798s | match for sure he deserves props for |
| 5799s | keeping his e-rolling so here's ewall |
| 5801s | Wing alive so long excuse me |
| 5804s | um and now we see uh Captain Shinken is |
| 5806s | actually holding here because there's a |
| 5807s | shack of dark shines one of the two Le |
| 5809s | Shacks who was obviously in Hot Pursuit |
| 5810s | of Captain Shinken has just been tackled |
| 5812s | down by the Magus I think it was the |
| 5813s | pontifex actually new cotton first and |
| 5815s | the Dominator of rifles |
| 5824s | looks like |
| 5827s | yeah I think they're they're so split |
| 5829s | apart |
| 5833s | yeah I mean they shouldn't really have |
| 5835s | let their Shanks get split up so hard |
| 5836s | perhaps maybe they should have said you |
| 5837s | know one of them's tackled |
| 5839s | um the other one needs to stop so that |
| 5840s | we can get over communion yeah |
| 5845s | instead you know and that was shut down |
| 5847s | I don't know if they have the GPS to |
| 5848s | break through the uh reactor support |
| 5850s | plus Park bank's logic skills I I do not |
| 5853s | think they're going to be able to break |
| 5855s | through any of these ships it did look |
| 5856s | like they were about to claw back from |
| 5858s | the Ducks of just getting destroyed by |
| 5861s | kite but it does not look like they were |
| 5864s | able to fully pull back because of that |
| 5866s | splitting up little Shucks good part on |
| 5868s | paper numbers to split those little |
| 5870s | Shucks up to stop the uh double spool |
| 5872s | damage |
| 5874s | yeah for sure I think some some credit |
| 5876s | is deserved by Initiative for choosing |
| 5877s | to get rid of that high you know when |
| 5878s | they could they saw an opportunity to |
| 5879s | maybe stick some DPS drones on it maybe |
| 5881s | black it with the Navy executors killing |
| 5883s | off that hyena was sort of what allowed |
| 5884s | them to get back into this match to get |
| 5886s | those Lush acts in a hot pursuit of |
| 5887s | those battle cruises and stop putting |
| 5889s | the damage into them if they've been |
| 5889s | maybe been able to do that a little bit |
| 5891s | sooner |
| 5892s | um you know maybe they could have got |
| 5893s | through shink and started on madoks |
| 5895s | um but just good control from paper |
| 5897s | numbers you see this double shot comp |
| 5899s | and they sort of they read it perfectly |
| 5901s | they know exactly what it needs to do it |
| 5902s | needs to charge into and as long as you |
| 5903s | can keep them up there you probably have |
| 5905s | the upper hand here |
| 5907s | yeah they wasted so much time in the |
| 5909s | beginning of that match thanks to that |
| 5910s | hyena and low E war end that they were |
| 5912s | able to get that advantage on the low |
| 5914s | end which definitely made a difference |
| 5915s | in this late game you know paper numbers |
| 5917s | still having all of that you know low |
| 5919s | end surviving way longer made a massive |
| 5921s | difference now that match almost did |
| 5923s | turn once paper numbers low end uh and |
| 5926s | control Wing basically vanished it just |
| 5928s | was slightly too late I would say maybe |
| 5931s | if you piloting mistakes and or Giga |
| 5934s | Chad piloting by the paper numbers team |
| 5936s | that really helped them win but that low |
| 5939s | end was the key to that match for both |
| 5941s | teams if it was going to live or die |
| 5943s | yeah I think the control start of that |
| 5945s | match was just debilitating for them |
| 5947s | um you know you've only got four DPS |
| 5948s | ships in that comp |
| 5950s | um when you come up against that kind of |
| 5952s | control it's very easy to just spread |
| 5954s | the e-ore and make it very very |
| 5955s | difficult to actually have any |
| 5957s | meaningful impact as Rocky in this last |
| 5959s | Le Shack is going to go down I think |
| 5961s | before time he is slowly bleeding |
| 5962s | through a hole here and this is quite an |
| 5964s | interesting look from paper numbers |
| 5965s | we've seen plenty of medium guns bam |
| 5967s | comps we haven't really seen like a |
| 5968s | maybe dummy plus three battle cruiser |
| 5970s | and then control it's kind of a slightly |
| 5972s | different take on things as he gets in |
| 5973s | that massive bump at the end not an mjd |
| 5975s | but an mwd play from Rife Eisen at the |
| 5978s | end there that is going to be paper |
| 5979s | numbers stomping to a win 136 we're |
| 5982s | going to send it back to the desk |
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| 5991s | um |
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| 6028s | foreign |
| 6030s | [Music] |
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| 6052s | [Applause] |
| 6060s | [Music] |
| 6063s | calculated Victory there by paper |
| 6066s | numbers uh takes them into alliance |
| 6068s | tournament 19 proper we will see no more |
| 6071s | of them as they go on meanwhile |
| 6073s | initiative now on the back foot as they |
| 6076s | will have to go through the gauntlet |
| 6078s | trying to find one of those remaining |
| 6080s | places they had their chance but |
| 6083s | unfortunately they could not pull it off |
| 6085s | in this case |
| 6086s | um let's come out we're seeing like it's |
| 6088s | early days yet but we're seeing double |
| 6091s | the Shacks |
| 6092s | um I feel like this happens every year |
| 6094s | though there's a subset of teams who |
| 6096s | just continue to think hey double the |
| 6099s | shacks and I don't have the stats to |
| 6101s | hand but I'm sure if we looked at the |
| 6102s | stats from last year's double the shack |
| 6104s | comps |
| 6105s | um it was pretty poor in terms of win |
| 6108s | loss |
| 6109s | um can you can you talk about this a |
| 6111s | little bit |
| 6112s | yeah I think a lot of teams look at the |
| 6114s | Le chat |
| 6116s | um it has decent range and it does a lot |
| 6118s | of damage especially over time so people |
| 6121s | see the shack they see big number and |
| 6123s | they think big number good |
| 6125s | um sometimes it is |
| 6127s | um I would say that to be fair to teams |
| 6129s | this year the dirt the double shot comp |
| 6131s | suffers less than it would have last |
| 6133s | year because e-war is now limited to |
| 6136s | ships that have the bonuses for them so |
| 6138s | previously where you would have seen |
| 6139s | jackdaws with like tracking disruptors |
| 6142s | or damps or something like that which |
| 6144s | really hurts the shack because it |
| 6146s | doesn't have a fall off bonus once it's |
| 6148s | out of its optimal range it stops |
| 6150s | spooling so one of the key ways that you |
| 6152s | can deal with the shack is to break its |
| 6153s | lock or to break its Ball by limiting |
| 6156s | how far it can shoot and then keeping |
| 6158s | range and that can happen less this year |
| 6160s | because you can actually ban the ships |
| 6162s | that are designed to stop you from |
| 6164s | spalling a little bit more effectively |
| 6166s | than you could last year |
| 6168s | however playing the Le Shack still |
| 6170s | requires you to use your brain the |
| 6172s | initiative lacked initiative when it |
| 6174s | came to dealing with the comp that they |
| 6177s | were going up against because they |
| 6179s | allowed dollar Shacks to get split |
| 6180s | towards the end of the match with one |
| 6182s | The Shack chasing off after a Burdick's |
| 6184s | Navy issue that ended up mjding away |
| 6186s | from it and dark shrines another track |
| 6189s | being stuck under the Dominic's Navy if |
| 6191s | they're stuck together |
| 6192s | and use their brains a little bit and |
| 6195s | just spooled on the Dominic's Navy to |
| 6197s | try and break the Dominic's name you're |
| 6199s | at least force it away they may have had |
| 6201s | a better chance of pulling their match |
| 6202s | back a little bit but I think they were |
| 6205s | really just hampered by the fact they |
| 6206s | had no tackle ships so they had no way |
| 6208s | of pinning down the exec |
| 6210s | um or the executor sorry that was the |
| 6212s | logistic ship |
| 6213s | um so they had to constantly fight |
| 6215s | through the Reps that were coming in |
| 6216s | which they can cause other Shacks but |
| 6218s | it's still not ideal or optimal |
| 6221s | yeah that was something I was actually |
| 6223s | going to uh bring up as well uh jintan I |
| 6225s | think you mentioned it in uh the the |
| 6227s | back channels and this is a great |
| 6230s | example of you know why you need tackle |
| 6233s | ships and support ships the initiative |
| 6235s | brought uh what I believe CP Zales |
| 6237s | called a galenti jog it wasn't as much I |
| 6239s | go into Rush |
| 6242s | and we saw a bunch of e-war ships um but |
| 6245s | really nothing in that tackle and |
| 6247s | support Wing why do you think that was a |
| 6250s | mistake and what do you think they could |
| 6251s | have maybe swapped around a bit |
| 6253s | uh it was clearly a mistake I wouldn't |
| 6255s | want to sit here and try and rebuild |
| 6257s | their comp from the ground up uh but you |
| 6260s | know we saw it especially later on in |
| 6261s | the match there just was no one able to |
| 6264s | screen for those the Shacks they were |
| 6266s | walking out there and just getting |
| 6267s | grabbed by anyone you know any any ship |
| 6270s | could tackle down on the shack there was |
| 6271s | no little frigate to sit there and hold |
| 6273s | on to the Dominic's Navy issue and stop |
| 6275s | it from glomping onto whoever their lead |
| 6278s | to Shaq pilot was I can't remember the |
| 6279s | name right now |
| 6281s | um which was what forced that weird |
| 6283s | point in the end game where they were |
| 6284s | both spooling on different things and |
| 6286s | the executor was able to very happily |
| 6288s | just sit there and keep the both of them |
| 6289s | alive |
| 6291s | really what I would have liked to well I |
| 6293s | want to actually talk about though is |
| 6294s | the paper numbers comp because I think |
| 6296s | that's a bit more indicative of the meta |
| 6298s | that we're going to see going forwards |
| 6299s | they weren't quite a medium gun span |
| 6302s | style team but you still saw I think six |
| 6305s | seven threats on that composition there |
| 6308s | were six or seven threats they could go |
| 6309s | out there and kill an opposing Cruiser |
| 6311s | you know or do significant damage to an |
| 6313s | opposing battle cruiser and that feels |
| 6315s | to me like what the meta is edging |
| 6318s | towards teams bringing a lot of big |
| 6320s | hitters and you know a small amount of |
| 6323s | tackle which can help them get into the |
| 6325s | right position because the low end of |
| 6327s | points have been increa have been kind |
| 6329s | of sorry the points of the low end ships |
| 6331s | have gone down and the cost of the |
| 6332s | high-end ships have gone up so you can |
| 6334s | get so much more value if you get those |
| 6336s | nine seven point ships somewhere into |
| 6338s | your composition |
| 6340s | yeah I especially in this opening round |
| 6344s | um it is super interesting to see how |
| 6345s | much of an accurate meta read we will |
| 6347s | start to get uh because some of these |
| 6349s | teams are going to go pretty much all in |
| 6350s | to try and secure that uh that that |
| 6353s | first most important wind so to to |
| 6356s | reiterate the way that this uh this feed |
| 6358s | around works is if you win your first |
| 6360s | match you're into alliance tournament 19 |
| 6363s | you need to know more until the main |
| 6365s | tournament itself that is it it is 10 |
| 6368s | minutes to you know prove your metal and |
| 6370s | you're straight through |
| 6371s | 28 spots exist in the alliance |
| 6374s | tournament 24 of them will be decided in |
| 6377s | this first round that means if you lose |
| 6379s | you're going into this brutal brutal |
| 6382s | Gauntlet for those remaining four slots |
| 6385s | that's terrible like you're from |
| 6388s | basically a 50 chance to suddenly maybe |
| 6390s | like a three or four percent chance now |
| 6392s | let's not say it never happens Odin's |
| 6394s | call last year had a fantastic run |
| 6396s | through the feeders uh dropping into the |
| 6399s | final sort of they equivalent of the |
| 6401s | galantic amp last year taking somewhere |
| 6403s | like seven or nine matches to get |
| 6406s | through into the main tournament and |
| 6407s | then cruised all the way up to second |
| 6409s | place in the main event it was a it was |
| 6411s | a spectacular run and I think still |
| 6414s | should probably hold the record for the |
| 6415s | most number of matches played in the |
| 6417s | single Alliance tournament it was it was |
| 6418s | pretty phenomenal unfortunately for them |
| 6420s | they only got skins for the main |
| 6421s | tournament not the feeders otherwise |
| 6423s | they'd have been very happy uh but yeah |
| 6426s | going all in at this stage in round one |
| 6428s | there has to be something to that |
| 6431s | mystical might like how like how about |
| 6433s | how big do your balls have to be to say |
| 6435s | let's not go all in because we think we |
| 6437s | could win with something a little bit |
| 6439s | sneaky |
| 6441s | I think it's just a good balance of |
| 6443s | knowing how good your team is versus who |
| 6445s | how good the team are going up against |
| 6447s | us |
| 6448s | um not to throw shade on any teams but |
| 6450s | if you're going up against a team like |
| 6453s | I don't know snuffed out I guess in this |
| 6456s | particular example based on what they |
| 6457s | brought today |
| 6459s | maybe you don't need to be bringing like |
| 6460s | the one comp that you're reserving for |
| 6462s | the finals right because it's not a |
| 6464s | finals match it's just one of the |
| 6465s | matches that you would have to win |
| 6466s | anyway in the run-up to the finals so |
| 6469s | depending on the confidence you have in |
| 6471s | your team and how many comps you've |
| 6473s | practiced you will have a good set of |
| 6475s | core comps that you will be able to |
| 6477s | bring out against almost any team and |
| 6479s | feel fairly comfortable in your chance |
| 6481s | of winning right in the odds going in |
| 6484s | your favor |
| 6485s | um you'll tweak that a bit based on how |
| 6487s | well you know their matter So based on |
| 6489s | the ships that they're bringing to their |
| 6490s | matches |
| 6492s | um but I would say most teams should be |
| 6494s | reserving some of their better comps for |
| 6497s | the actual main tournament especially in |
| 6499s | this first match I want them to bring |
| 6501s | good comps because it makes their life |
| 6503s | so much easier to just get in now |
| 6505s | but later on in the feeders bracket |
| 6508s | where they are at risk of being |
| 6509s | eliminated that's when I expect to see |
| 6511s | some of the the Doomsday comps coming |
| 6512s | out because |
| 6513s | you know if they lose then what really |
| 6516s | have they lost in showing a good comp |
| 6519s | yeah awesome it's going to be |
| 6521s | interesting now I'm just looking at |
| 6523s | twitch and it seems that there's mixed |
| 6526s | matchup between sugar and Deepwater |
| 6527s | Hooligans it has a clear favorite uh |
| 6530s | Deepwater Hooligans over a million |
| 6531s | Channel points on them where there's |
| 6533s | only 110 000 on sugar lots of uh posting |
| 6537s | a boat to help deep water float so we |
| 6539s | will certainly see if they can float or |
| 6541s | if they sink now let's take a look at |
| 6542s | what they are Banning uh D water |
| 6544s | Hooligans Banning out the Nighthawk and |
| 6546s | the typhoon flu tissue uh meanwhile uh |
| 6549s | from sugar we're seeing scorpion Navy |
| 6551s | issue and a bar guest interesting bands |
| 6554s | here we don't have a huge amount of time |
| 6556s | to talk about it because I see the teams |
| 6557s | have landed in the arena so let us head |
| 6560s | over to the arena for hooligan do what |
| 6562s | Hooligans versus sugar |
| 6569s | g'day mates welcome back to the arena |
| 6572s | and I feel like people aren't really |
| 6574s | hearing the message of double The Shack |
| 6575s | isn't really worth it but I also feel |
| 6577s | like someone's copying someone else's |
| 6578s | homework and just changing just a little |
| 6579s | bit so don't get caught because there's |
| 6582s | a lot of similarities going on here what |
| 6583s | are you thinking Alex |
| 6587s | oops |
| 6590s | select |
| 6595s | yeah I killed him all right this is all |
| 6597s | me then uh |
| 6599s | no it was me all along |
| 6604s | The Shack left me speechless for there |
| 6606s | for a second |
| 6608s | deep water electing to bring in a neros |
| 6611s | versus sugar elected to counter it with |
| 6613s | a curse interesting exactly that like I |
| 6615s | said it's trade it's like they had the |
| 6617s | same idea and one copied the other one |
| 6619s | they just changed just a little bit it's |
| 6621s | a very it'll be very interesting match |
| 6622s | that curse is going to pull his weight |
| 6624s | and so is the owneros |
| 6626s | yeah I feel like the curse will give |
| 6628s | longer term value if it can survive but |
| 6631s | against double the Shacks that is a far |
| 6633s | from certain uh outcome here as we see |
| 6636s | the match beginning to go underway |
| 6637s | Deepwater Hooligans beginning to kite |
| 6639s | away very slowly |
| 6644s | it's just hanging around |
| 6647s | both the sex just charging in from uh |
| 6650s | sugar just sending it and I love it |
| 6652s | now team's a bit behind but that's fine |
| 6654s | just just go in there |
| 6659s | uh maybe after burning the Shacks versus |
| 6662s | microwork should I have the Shacks is |
| 6663s | that what's Happening Here |
| 6665s | I |
| 6666s | I mean I can't say you shouldn't fit |
| 6668s | that off the middle but I really think |
| 6669s | you should not fit an afterburn into |
| 6670s | Battleship smack you might as well get |
| 6671s | out and paddle you'll be going about as |
| 6673s | fast but yeah damage is coming |
| 6680s | look at the drones all popping up e-war |
| 6682s | drones lodgy drones absolute chaos going |
| 6685s | on here the ECM drone is going to be |
| 6687s | particularly annoying for the Shacks |
| 6689s | they break that spool even once that |
| 6691s | could end this match immediately |
| 6694s | yeah I think uh tellingly Deepwater |
| 6696s | Hooligans has a bigger cloud of |
| 6698s | Maintenance spots around their Le Shack |
| 6699s | and then we're starting to see the |
| 6701s | benefits of that as Veer as The Shack on |
| 6703s | sugar is beginning to dip below half |
| 6705s | armor pulling it back rather slowly |
| 6710s | well they've only got a deacon and |
| 6712s | Italian for logic mean while the other |
| 6713s | side has no miros giving him the real |
| 6715s | rep power they need so this is not |
| 6717s | looking good at the moment |
| 6720s | under withering fire with a with no rep |
| 6723s | Bots to show for it he's now just got a |
| 6727s | one set of Heavies on him uh not looking |
| 6730s | great compared to the massive massive |
| 6733s | cloud of Maintenance Bots surrounding |
| 6734s | ear canal right now you can see the |
| 6737s | difference as The Little Shack or just |
| 6739s | that as well |
| 6743s | they've really invested on lodgy here |
| 6746s | a much more potent combination of |
| 6748s | logistics than the double now single |
| 6751s | Logistics freaking outside of sugar as |
| 6753s | their Thalia Bites the Dust |
| 6755s | maybe Dimensions well the Navy call me |
| 6758s | Comet and Confessor are going to be a |
| 6759s | very brutal uh combo against small ships |
| 6761s | except actually the deacon now being |
| 6762s | shot down you see the comet and the |
| 6764s | Confessor going straight in for it yeah |
| 6766s | that that that's the support Wing is |
| 6768s | very aggressive I love it |
| 6770s | yeah a bit of a bash Brothers |
| 6772s | combination there the comet especially |
| 6774s | taking advantage of the points reduction |
| 6776s | here for this tournament brings a ton of |
| 6779s | Firepower for a relatively affordable |
| 6781s | amount of points meanwhile the other |
| 6784s | Confessor from the opposing side just |
| 6785s | took out the carries of uh I'll be so |
| 6788s | [Music] |
| 6790s | not great |
| 6792s | yeah like yeah you got something |
| 6793s | congratulations it's a shame that your |
| 6795s | comp is dead |
| 6797s | yeah with a singular Shack here unless |
| 6800s | this curse starts to put in some work |
| 6802s | uh they're they're really gonna have |
| 6804s | some trouble here but the curse is |
| 6806s | well he's doing what he's supposed to be |
| 6808s | doing he has parked himself on top of |
| 6811s | the aniros for Deepwater Hooligans and |
| 6813s | he's putting as many newts in as |
| 6815s | possible but it's not counting for much |
| 6818s | as uh ear canal has been hanging tough |
| 6821s | with that cloud of Maintenance spots |
| 6822s | which do not rely on capacitor and |
| 6825s | there's nothing cleaning them off right |
| 6826s | now he still has quite a few |
| 6828s | one thing I'm surprised by you've got |
| 6830s | twin Le chakra you've got a massive DPS |
| 6831s | and you've obviously got utility hires |
| 6833s | neither team thought for a millisecond |
| 6835s | to put a smart bomber |
| 6837s | now like maybe it's they maybe think |
| 6838s | they'd like their drones but like look |
| 6840s | what's going on here if you have one |
| 6841s | smart bomb that's how many ECM and rep |
| 6843s | drones gone in an instant |
| 6844s | it's I feel like yeah it has the shifts |
| 6847s | to put it on the shack is an excellent |
| 6848s | choice it has it even has a bonus for it |
| 6850s | making them run more efficiently but |
| 6852s | we're just not seeing them here it looks |
| 6853s | like they've elected to go with |
| 6855s | neutralizer fits |
| 6857s | all the way all the way |
| 6860s | okay good they're good against other |
| 6862s | ships but like the shack versus Le Shack |
| 6865s | neutralizer versus neutralizer you're |
| 6867s | just beating each other with the same |
| 6868s | stick |
| 6869s | unfortunately Deepwater hole again stick |
| 6871s | is quite a bit bigger as the remaining |
| 6874s | sugarless Shack drops |
| 6877s | stop making me cough |
| 6879s | your nurses being uh the most always a |
| 6881s | celestist but they're just leaving these |
| 6883s | little Shacks alone now they realize |
| 6884s | they just can't kill them go for |
| 6885s | something else |
| 6893s | he needs some Logistics over there |
| 6897s | I've had some Wrecking shots myself |
| 6898s | unfortunately sugar they're they're |
| 6900s | trying here they're putting some damage |
| 6901s | into the celestes Unfortunately they |
| 6903s | just don't have a lot of damage left got |
| 6906s | the Confessor which has just dropped |
| 6907s | they're only remaining damage dealers |
| 6909s | are the vexer and the curse and I |
| 6911s | guarantee you that curse is now |
| 6913s | has been fit for as much tank as |
| 6915s | possible so it's not putting out a lot |
| 6917s | of damage despite having a drone bonus |
| 6920s | es |
| 6923s | not gonna matter |
| 6925s | like at all things yeah |
| 6927s | I'm sure I agree with |
| 6930s | yeah maybe they didn't go for the common |
| 6931s | with the vixo or the Confessor or even |
| 6933s | the Ponte O'Malley and try and get rid |
| 6934s | of the um get rid of the links but going |
| 6936s | for the celestes which at this point is |
| 6938s | doing basically nothing to you because |
| 6940s | you like honestly getting up close isn't |
| 6942s | gonna help you leave us getting caughty |
| 6944s | their their target pickings are a bit |
| 6946s | slim here I mean the play to try to win |
| 6948s | the match would be to go after the |
| 6950s | ineros but even with the curses |
| 6951s | neutralizers I'm skeptical that the |
| 6953s | remaining amount of damage could punch |
| 6954s | through its tank every time it has a cap |
| 6957s | booster up it's going to be able to get |
| 6958s | a cycle or two of its repper in and that |
| 6960s | itself might be enough to Outlast the |
| 6962s | end of this match but Sugar's not even |
| 6964s | going for it they're trying to take out |
| 6967s | the Magus now and it is easily getting |
| 6970s | wrapped up |
| 6971s | yeah whatever you can I guess but I got |
| 6973s | a question for you at the start right |
| 6974s | you've got two uh Le shacks and a curse |
| 6977s | versus Tula shacks and lodgy do you |
| 6980s | Newton one of the Shacks with your |
| 6982s | cursor try and remove DPS or you need |
| 6984s | the logic to try and win the race |
| 6986s | you've got to go for the larger and try |
| 6988s | to win the race I think it's your only |
| 6990s | play there that I don't know what the |
| 6992s | issue was uh I think honestly the |
| 6994s | difference of the maintenance spots |
| 6996s | probably did it |
| 6997s | that curse was just not able to |
| 6999s | effectively neutralize the ineros fast |
| 7001s | enough and the uh the maintenance spots |
| 7004s | that deep water put out we're enabling |
| 7006s | it to get that DPS Race Edge and that's |
| 7008s | all they needed was just a little Edge |
| 7010s | to make sure that their Le Shack stayed |
| 7013s | up just slightly longer than sugars |
| 7015s | which enabled them to snowball this |
| 7017s | match into a not quite but nearly |
| 7019s | Flawless Victory as the universe has |
| 7022s | finally become the remaining Target here |
| 7026s | yeah and that's why I asked that as well |
| 7028s | is because if you knew that one last |
| 7029s | Shack for a split second then break that |
| 7031s | cycle that can also win your DPS race |
| 7033s | but you got to make the decision and |
| 7034s | kind of commit to it I don't know I |
| 7035s | didn't see the curse do particularly |
| 7036s | much so we'll have to see what the |
| 7038s | analyst does thinks once uh this curse |
| 7040s | finally uh gets what he deserves and |
| 7042s | absolutely explodes |
| 7045s | and he's been tackled by the Magus we're |
| 7046s | now seeing uh damage drones so the |
| 7050s | Deepwater Hooligans teams realize they |
| 7051s | don't need to wrap anything they've |
| 7052s | swapped out for damage to close this |
| 7054s | match out 100 to 5 sending this back to |
| 7057s | the desk |
| 7063s | [Music] |
| 7067s | thank you |
| 7070s | [Music] |
| 7078s | rain are you in the armor Vagabond or |
| 7080s | something no um I've got Axel ISP |
| 7086s | polarized guns |
| 7087s | [Laughter] |
| 7093s | casing you you are one of two people |
| 7096s | that couldn't listen and couldn't check |
| 7099s | bookmarks and find your own way out the |
| 7101s | route the entire route was literally |
| 7103s | bookmarked out to low sick I bookmarked |
| 7106s | the 10 minutes in advance |
| 7108s | guys stop being casual they're really |
| 7110s | bad we should not lose anybody to this |
| 7113s | warp off warp off take the fleet warp |
| 7115s | everybody warp off this is a really |
| 7116s | really bad execution I'm very |
| 7118s | disappointed |
| 7124s | there you have it sugar caramelized in |
| 7128s | the deep water kitchen uh 100 to five uh |
| 7132s | pretty much uh dismantling it it seemed |
| 7134s | to be a bit of a stalemate back and |
| 7136s | forth for a while at the start of that |
| 7137s | match it was something like three |
| 7139s | minutes before for the first ship starts |
| 7141s | to go down but once it did the snowball |
| 7143s | was in full effect uh as it was just a |
| 7146s | case of just bang bang bang one after |
| 7149s | the other they all disappeared uh the |
| 7151s | Wormhole Curse still very much uh in |
| 7154s | effect in this instance that was another |
| 7157s | Wormhole group another big fat L uh |
| 7161s | mystical might what what is there to say |
| 7163s | about this this match |
| 7166s | I mean it's just standard wormholer in |
| 7169s | an 80 environment I guess you know the |
| 7171s | outside of wormholes what can they do we |
| 7173s | even put a wormhole on grid for them to |
| 7174s | make them feel more at home and it's |
| 7176s | just it's just not working so I don't |
| 7178s | know really how we can help them |
| 7180s | um through this bracket these tough |
| 7181s | times |
| 7183s | um Mark does need your vote still |
| 7184s | Wormhole so try your hardest thank you |
| 7186s | um in this match I think that |
| 7189s | but there was a bit of discussion in the |
| 7191s | the background between myself and a few |
| 7193s | of the other analysts |
| 7195s | um on what we thought would win the |
| 7196s | Triple damp that was brought by |
| 7198s | Deepwater Hooligans or the |
| 7201s | um damp and the curse that was brought |
| 7203s | by Sugar |
| 7205s | um that was the belief that the curse |
| 7208s | would be able to prevent one of the |
| 7211s | Shacks from shooting Beyond 12 |
| 7212s | kilometers which is pretty reasonable to |
| 7214s | assume but I believed that the triple |
| 7217s | damp that the deportulligan team brought |
| 7219s | would prevent the curse from locking at |
| 7221s | all and would also Force the sugar team |
| 7223s | to brawl in in the end we saw them |
| 7226s | decide to brawl anyway |
| 7228s | and with the power of the ineros behind |
| 7230s | the double the shack they were they were |
| 7232s | able to Outlast the double Logie frig of |
| 7236s | all the shack so again just another |
| 7238s | matchup of theology Cruiser versus the |
| 7240s | logistics frigates I think |
| 7243s | and one of the other interesting choices |
| 7245s | in that last match uh was the because |
| 7247s | the the concept was quite similar |
| 7249s | actually like when you look at them from |
| 7250s | from a high level they're quite quite |
| 7252s | the same but we saw clearly a decision |
| 7254s | uh one team bringing a crush one team |
| 7256s | bring it in an Eros jintan why do you |
| 7259s | think the decision to bring a curse |
| 7260s | maybe was made |
| 7262s | I mean the curse is just one of the most |
| 7265s | historically powerful ships in the |
| 7267s | alliance tournament for what it does so |
| 7270s | first of all you've got those bonus |
| 7271s | tracking disruptors and guidance |
| 7272s | disruptors those allow you to neutralize |
| 7275s | one or two of your opponent's ships as |
| 7277s | long as they are you know ships that |
| 7278s | rely on projecting from range and just |
| 7281s | turn them off or in this case with a |
| 7283s | couple of other Shacks they were able to |
| 7284s | take one of them and just completely |
| 7286s | remove them from the picture until the |
| 7289s | curse itself started coming under |
| 7290s | trouble what makes the cursor so |
| 7292s | powerful is not just those tracking |
| 7294s | Interrupters if it was just that it |
| 7295s | would basically be a Sentinels bigger |
| 7297s | bad a daddy but it's even worse than |
| 7299s | that because of the noobs that it has |
| 7301s | access to those things are incredibly |
| 7303s | potent and they can not only turn off a |
| 7306s | logistics frigate very easily they can |
| 7308s | also make very good work at Logistics |
| 7311s | Cruisers and pretty much any Cruiser |
| 7313s | really uh and between that it allows it |
| 7317s | to basically Shield itself you know it |
| 7319s | can if it sees a destroyer coming in to |
| 7321s | try and tackle it it can just reach chat |
| 7323s | with a new and tell it to go away and it |
| 7325s | will leave it dead in space for its |
| 7326s | friends to come and swarm all over at |
| 7329s | least that was a game plan unfortunately |
| 7331s | in this case it didn't really turn out |
| 7332s | that well those newts weren't very |
| 7334s | effective they weren't able to utilize |
| 7336s | them to you know disrupt the tackle that |
| 7338s | was ending up kind of sticking around |
| 7341s | their little shacks and stopping them |
| 7342s | from getting into position and really I |
| 7345s | just don't think we saw the full |
| 7347s | potential of the cuts come out in that |
| 7348s | match maybe if they've used it a little |
| 7350s | better |
| 7351s | they could have won |
| 7354s | maybe we will never know well we might |
| 7357s | know because we will see sugar again as |
| 7360s | they're still in of course the the |
| 7361s | galenti gamble they have to try and make |
| 7363s | their way through a brittle series now |
| 7365s | maybe when they get into the tournament |
| 7366s | maybe they they redeem their space |
| 7369s | Bushido |
| 7370s | um in terms of wormholers we have the |
| 7372s | match coming up after the break is no |
| 7374s | vacancies versus dark side this I think |
| 7376s | is going to be a extremely interesting |
| 7378s | match Dark Side legendary team with some |
| 7380s | incredible Pilots no vacancies uh have |
| 7382s | done some had some pretty good success |
| 7384s | occasionally in advance tournament so I |
| 7386s | think this is a team that dartside |
| 7388s | cannot count on just an easy win uh so |
| 7391s | I'm certainly looking forward to that |
| 7393s | but that will be in about 20-30 minutes |
| 7395s | we are going to go to a short break so |
| 7398s | stick around enjoy the music and we'll |
| 7400s | see you then |
| 7401s | welcome back ladies and gentlemen |
| 7403s | uh I don't know if you guys can hear |
| 7405s | that music but that was a phenomenal uh |
| 7407s | return to Forum right here on Alliance |
| 7409s | tournament 19 feet of rounds day one |
| 7412s | uh we've already seen a bunch of teams |
| 7414s | secure their way straight into alliance |
| 7416s | tournament 19. we've seen some people |
| 7418s | stumble at that first step and move into |
| 7420s | the galenti gamble the teams that have |
| 7423s | progressed thus far are goons run |
| 7425s | Federation Platinum sensitivity Rave |
| 7427s | Collective the ancient paper numbers and |
| 7430s | Deepwater Hooligans so those teams have |
| 7433s | secured that spot in line instrument 19. |
| 7436s | we'll see them in August for the rest of |
| 7438s | the teams it is still anyone's game |
| 7440s | we're still very much in the uh win it |
| 7443s | and you're in set for today for this |
| 7445s | next match between dark side and no |
| 7448s | vacancies but you may have noticed I am |
| 7450s | joined by two Fresh Faces uh to Welcome |
| 7454s | to the stage the Basilisk and moderator |
| 7456s | as a how are you today |
| 7458s | I'm good I'm very hot coming to you very |
| 7460s | hot from middle of England so I've got |
| 7462s | the fan on thankfully it's not been |
| 7463s | picked up by the stream |
| 7465s | um but yeah I'm good I've enjoyed it so |
| 7466s | far it's been good |
| 7467s | awesome hot and modest and of course we |
| 7470s | have a moderator uh well he's not busy |
| 7472s | running around muting people's streams |
| 7474s | he is here to to enter tennis and tell |
| 7477s | us wise words about these matches what |
| 7480s | how are you today |
| 7481s | excellent it's a great day for |
| 7483s | spaceships to explode |
| 7484s | it's always a great day for spaceships |
| 7486s | to explode every single day is a good |
| 7488s | day for spaceships to explode is there |
| 7490s | any matches so far that you've seen in |
| 7493s | the theaters today that have had your |
| 7495s | favorite explosions moderator |
| 7498s | um nuke Michael's Rapid heavy missile |
| 7501s | launchers were probably my favorite |
| 7502s | explosion when those burnt out |
| 7505s | um but not seriousness I liked a lot of |
| 7507s | the um kind of the very heavy commit for |
| 7509s | all matches that we've seen so far |
| 7511s | they've been entertaining to watch maybe |
| 7514s | not the you know most uh |
| 7517s | on point of compositions but they've |
| 7519s | been enjoyable so far |
| 7521s | and one of you any any highlights we've |
| 7524s | seen a couple of matches you know it's |
| 7526s | still early days but any any good ones |
| 7528s | so far |
| 7529s | yeah I've quite like the goons one the |
| 7531s | goons one versus snuffed out of the |
| 7532s | start apart from Michael's um |
| 7535s | guns burning out I think from snuffed it |
| 7537s | was quite a sort of |
| 7539s | ambitious entrance into the alliance |
| 7541s | tournament and feed arounds to feel the |
| 7542s | conflicts so difficult to execute to its |
| 7545s | Highest Potential |
| 7547s | um |
| 7547s | yeah so I like to see them try it but |
| 7549s | I'm also kind of happy to see them sorry |
| 7551s | more but uh fall on my face a little bit |
| 7554s | awesome now let's look forward to our |
| 7556s | next match Dark Side versus no vacancies |
| 7557s | uh I'm excited for this one I think we |
| 7560s | have the bands let's see if we can take |
| 7561s | a quick look at those so uh Dark Side |
| 7563s | choosing to ban the Scimitar and the bow |
| 7566s | Garden uh well no vacancies banning at |
| 7569s | the Scimitar and the Blackbird and we |
| 7571s | have our first trickle bands so both |
| 7572s | teams Banning the Scimitar as one of |
| 7575s | their first two bands these bands are |
| 7576s | done blind to each other because there's |
| 7578s | a duplicate each team gets an additional |
| 7580s | free ban uh Dark Side Banning out the |
| 7582s | Varga recently buffed in the Viridian |
| 7584s | expansion and uh the Italia moderator |
| 7587s | what do you think of these bands |
| 7590s | yeah usually when we see scimitars |
| 7592s | getting banned out it's to get rid of |
| 7593s | kind of long range |
| 7596s | um Shield kaidi setups though or |
| 7598s | traditional kind of long-range artillery |
| 7599s | fly killer with rapid Heavies rapid |
| 7601s | lights |
| 7602s | getting those out of the way and we see |
| 7605s | um Elle Gorn band as well from Darkseid |
| 7608s | not wanting to get controlled but that |
| 7611s | looks like a tempest so uh we'll have to |
| 7613s | maybe talk to production about that what |
| 7614s | do you think of Asa |
| 7616s | yeah I think that's another fat finger |
| 7618s | on the Bal gong key rather than the |
| 7620s | balgorn key |
| 7621s | um but yeah I sort of agree with your |
| 7623s | tanks generally on the bands the Simi in |
| 7624s | this format where you've only got two |
| 7626s | bands it's quite hard to sort of |
| 7628s | specifically ban out an entire comp and |
| 7630s | say we don't want to face this you've |
| 7631s | got very limited |
| 7633s | um like there's so much replaceability |
| 7634s | in the composite your opponents might |
| 7636s | feel that it's very difficult to narrow |
| 7637s | it down that much so going for the Sim |
| 7639s | is |
| 7640s | probably the single most effective way |
| 7641s | to try and deal with Shield kite if |
| 7643s | that's what you don't want to see |
| 7645s | yeah I'm looking at what's landed on |
| 7646s | grid here and it looks like it should be |
| 7648s | a Spacey match uh so let's hand over to |
| 7651s | the arena for Dark Side versus no |
| 7653s | vacancies with your casters uh BlackMart |
| 7655s | pirate and Chad Flynn |
| 7662s | welcome to the Rita I am Chad flame here |
| 7664s | with BlackMart pirate to cast you the |
| 7666s | dark side versus no vacancies Dark Side |
| 7668s | uh bringing a Nighthawk Loki leak |
| 7672s | Cyclone Onyx Cerberus Navy caracal by |
| 7675s | frost double logic and a jackdaw uh |
| 7678s | Blackberry would you like to go through |
| 7679s | the no vacancies too |
| 7681s | I will go through the No Vacancy side |
| 7682s | they're being actually a very similar |
| 7684s | setup with a Nighthawk slapner Fleet |
| 7686s | Cyclone Navy Drake Osprey Navy caracled |
| 7688s | Navy executive Jack dots people and a |
| 7690s | fly catcher interesting to note all of |
| 7692s | these ships are fit with hams in close |
| 7693s | range weapons with the exception of the |
| 7695s | no vacancies Navy executor I guess they |
| 7697s | weren't Chad enough to run the blasters |
| 7700s | uh seeing an awesome shot with that |
| 7702s | wormhole in the background right there |
| 7703s | props to our cameraman I believe that |
| 7705s | these are at least one of these teams is |
| 7707s | considered to be one of the last |
| 7709s | Wormhole hopes or Mark resurrect is here |
| 7714s | yeah as we saw earlier today a lot of |
| 7716s | those Wormhole teams taking a l and |
| 7718s | we'll be seeing them play against each |
| 7720s | other later today hoping that one of |
| 7722s | them can redeem themselves but one of |
| 7723s | them will also be eliminated as that |
| 7726s | said the match counting down and Link's |
| 7728s | about to go up any second now what's |
| 7729s | your predictions for the start of this |
| 7730s | match black part |
| 7732s | uh honestly my predictions is there's |
| 7734s | going to be a lot of people going down |
| 7736s | very fast it should be quite a quick |
| 7738s | match with we're seeing massive amounts |
| 7739s | of heavy missile damage or heavy assault |
| 7741s | missile damage and both teams are |
| 7742s | ramming it straight into each other uh |
| 7744s | very very very strong powerful tactic |
| 7747s | right here a lot of damage going under |
| 7748s | the Navy character no vacancies first |
| 7750s | which is a very good Target probably one |
| 7752s | of the easiest ships to kill there that |
| 7753s | being said and seen a lot of webs and |
| 7755s | stuff going on to Sky killer Russian |
| 7757s | it's the Loki from Darkseid |
| 7759s | yeah it looks like they're just trying |
| 7761s | to get rid of that control not really |
| 7762s | like it's going to make a massive |
| 7763s | difference other than for application |
| 7764s | purposes as that Navy caracal goes down |
| 7766s | instantly the Osprey not able to keep it |
| 7768s | up Drake looks Drake maybe looks to be |
| 7770s | like the duck's primary for dark side |
| 7772s | uh the Drake Navy is taking damage the |
| 7775s | jackdaw's also taking a little bit of |
| 7776s | damage it's getting a sort of solo PVP |
| 7778s | to bit in the back there by uh the |
| 7780s | bifrost which is something you don't |
| 7781s | usually hear every day but uh you have |
| 7783s | that drink Navy is dropping way faster |
| 7784s | Sky killer Russian may go down here but |
| 7787s | if that Drake Navy goes down for Sky |
| 7789s | killer Russian like that's already two |
| 7790s | major DPS ships that are about to be off |
| 7792s | the field the No Vacancy side and they |
| 7793s | really don't have anything to show for |
| 7795s | it as the Navy Drake goes down Sky |
| 7796s | killer Russian is still holding in very |
| 7798s | low Shield maybe coming back a little |
| 7800s | bit |
| 7801s | I I don't think he's going to be able to |
| 7803s | come back but you're at this point |
| 7805s | trading away two top end DPS ships now |
| 7808s | we're going to be three because this |
| 7809s | exact Navy's already out of shield for a |
| 7811s | Loki what an amazing trade done by this |
| 7814s | uh Dark Side team |
| 7816s | yeah it's uh this is the first time |
| 7818s | we've seen Shield Rush uh for this |
| 7820s | tournament also the first time we've |
| 7821s | seen Childress versus shielders for this |
| 7823s | tournament and it seems that Darkseid is |
| 7824s | taking kind of an older meta and just |
| 7826s | absolutely crushing through no vacancies |
| 7828s | who brought a similar setup but is now |
| 7830s | four ships down with that jackpot |
| 7831s | dropping uh no vacancies trying to take |
| 7833s | a fleet Cyclone down doing a pretty |
| 7835s | decent job there's still quite a bit of |
| 7837s | damage out on the No Vacancy side but uh |
| 7839s | Dark Side just seems to have a lot more |
| 7840s | control they're now wiping out that |
| 7842s | lower end taking out that stipple taking |
| 7844s | out that jackpot probably gonna go for |
| 7845s | the fly catcher next all very very high |
| 7847s | DPS ships here uh Fleet cycle in the |
| 7849s | dark side is actually barely holding |
| 7851s | here still that those scalpels and |
| 7853s | Kieran on dark side are just doing an |
| 7855s | incredible job of just slowing down the |
| 7857s | amount of damage they take and uh Fern |
| 7859s | might actually live longer than rain |
| 7861s | here |
| 7863s | it noted like you said that small and |
| 7865s | just dying they just don't have the ehp |
| 7866s | for the Osprey to catch reps on them it |
| 7868s | seems versus these top end ships are |
| 7870s | catching asprey reps which is doing |
| 7871s | slightly more than that logic but |
| 7873s | they're doing a good job as well as we |
| 7874s | actually see the no vacancies type |
| 7876s | complete go down or it's like one Fleet |
| 7878s | go down first |
| 7880s | it does appear that Fern may actually |
| 7883s | survive this so we're seeing very very |
| 7885s | slow structure bleed here as the fly |
| 7887s | catcher drops uh there's now only a |
| 7889s | slept in a Nighthawk which may be fair |
| 7891s | quite a lot of damage but somehow the |
| 7893s | Cyclone Fleet is holding on as dark side |
| 7896s | swaps over and begins wrecking this |
| 7898s | sleptner slept nerds do have an |
| 7900s | incredibly high amount of Shield self |
| 7903s | tank but you know we've said it before |
| 7904s | once those ASB charges go out it'll drop |
| 7906s | at this point it's pretty obvious that |
| 7908s | dark side is one it's more is Darkseid |
| 7910s | going to win with only losing a single |
| 7912s | ship and it looks like that might be a |
| 7914s | possibility here |
| 7917s | does because the uh |
| 7918s | Elite Cyclone of Darkseid has pulled out |
| 7921s | of that fight and is now out of the |
| 7922s | range of that slept near and Nighthawk |
| 7924s | that are currently being held down |
| 7926s | webbed and scrammed and it's not like |
| 7928s | they're going to be able to finish the |
| 7929s | job and have to switch targets and lose |
| 7931s | all their progress that they put into |
| 7933s | that lead cycle |
| 7936s | and it does seem that no vacancies has |
| 7938s | decided to maybe try and take the |
| 7939s | scalpel down but I mean that's way too |
| 7941s | little too late I think that Fern got a |
| 7943s | ancillary Shield booster reload off or |
| 7945s | something and was able to kind of bring |
| 7948s | themselves back from the brink of |
| 7949s | Destruction Zacks on the other hand |
| 7951s | appears to be out of ASB charges his |
| 7953s | bleeding armor right now is about to go |
| 7955s | into structure and will blow up I say |
| 7957s | that as a single little Shield rep gets |
| 7959s | off of there they go Fern is still alive |
| 7962s | sitting in 37 structure uh dark side is |
| 7965s | going after the Osprey right now good |
| 7967s | fights in local are starting to go out |
| 7969s | and I I really think that the target |
| 7972s | calling right off the rip there was so |
| 7974s | huge uh we saw Darkseid just completely |
| 7977s | do completely different strategy the no |
| 7979s | vacancies did uh Chad was there anything |
| 7981s | that no vacancies maybe could have done |
| 7983s | to pull this off |
| 7986s | I think there's two ways you could look |
| 7987s | at it they either need to go dark side |
| 7989s | having a lot of T2 and T3 resists |
| 7992s | helping them tank a lot longer maybe |
| 7994s | getting damage Off the Grid in some of |
| 7996s | those T1 holes such as the uh Fleet |
| 7998s | Cyclone or the caracal the other option |
| 8000s | is using some of those small end ships |
| 8002s | like spitball fly catcher to maybe do |
| 8006s | some work on their laundry frigates they |
| 8007s | have to be right in the fight as well |
| 8008s | you might be able to get one of those |
| 8010s | down and stop them from rapping I think |
| 8012s | those two resists really one dark side |
| 8014s | of the match because they were able to |
| 8015s | tank so well being primaried |
| 8020s | absolutely uh going after the Loki which |
| 8022s | is probably one of the more difficult |
| 8024s | ships to kill may not have been the best |
| 8026s | idea uh the Osprey goes down and dark |
| 8029s | side is finishing off the Nighthawk last |
| 8031s | generally considered to be one of the |
| 8032s | most difficult ships in the game to take |
| 8034s | down but it actually blew up almost |
| 8036s | instantly so maybe it was paper tanked |
| 8037s | uh we will leave all of that analysis |
| 8039s | back to the squad on the desk |
| 8052s | [Music] |
| 8058s | [Music] |
| 8062s | could be anywhere |
| 8065s | [Music] |
| 8091s | [Music] |
| 8096s | did it |
| 8099s | [Music] |
| 8106s | well it looks like there are no |
| 8108s | vacancies in the main tournament at this |
| 8110s | point for Novak as they will have to |
| 8112s | face the the glancy gamble to see if |
| 8114s | they can secure one of the remaining |
| 8115s | fourth place is having just dropped that |
| 8118s | match outside of course lighting up the |
| 8120s | arena with explosions there in a in a |
| 8123s | pretty comfortable match Dark Side an |
| 8126s | incredibly experienced team I believe |
| 8128s | they're captained by fafi wafi who's a |
| 8130s | long time tournament pilot uh super good |
| 8133s | at what he does and we have some pilots |
| 8134s | in there like Pandy who've come from |
| 8136s | vidrivi lauded a two-time 80 winning |
| 8140s | team incredible amounts of talent in |
| 8143s | that dark side team this year so I'm |
| 8144s | very excited to see how they go |
| 8146s | moderator |
| 8148s | um what do you think of no vacancy's |
| 8150s | decision to primary the Loki of Darkseid |
| 8153s | uh at the start of that match |
| 8156s | yeah it felt like a lot of that match |
| 8158s | pivoted like you're saying off of the |
| 8160s | choice of primaries no vacancies |
| 8162s | choosing to go for the Loki yes it's a |
| 8164s | lot of points some of the control in |
| 8166s | terms of webs but uh Dark Side made the |
| 8170s | better call to go after those very |
| 8172s | low tank but very high damage glass |
| 8175s | Cannon Navy caracal Navy executor and |
| 8178s | ultimately that's one of the match for |
| 8180s | them pretty hard early on |
| 8183s | yeah and business what do you think in |
| 8185s | general about bringing a low key it's |
| 8187s | not a ship we see very common uh in |
| 8189s | general taxi Cruisers not seen very |
| 8191s | often in the alliance tournament uh not |
| 8193s | since the demise of course of the Tinker |
| 8196s | comps when you used to be able to fit |
| 8197s | Logistics to your uh your Tech 3 Cruiser |
| 8200s | and just you know ball up feed remote |
| 8202s | cap to that thing and just rep the heck |
| 8205s | out of everybody uh since that ended tax |
| 8208s | records have remained relatively |
| 8209s | expensive Point wise they are very |
| 8211s | flexible of course but we don't see them |
| 8214s | super often uh why why is that |
| 8217s | I think from the tech 3 Crews of the |
| 8220s | Loki is definitely the most valuable the |
| 8222s | most viable in a tournament setup |
| 8224s | um I think the ranged webs is just makes |
| 8226s | the game generally so much easier to |
| 8227s | play and that's for sure one of the |
| 8229s | reasons the team will bring it in a |
| 8230s | shield Rush is it just gives you that |
| 8231s | extra |
| 8232s | um sort of redundancy like if they have |
| 8234s | screening you still have a really long |
| 8236s | 40 kilometer web to get on something and |
| 8237s | it sort of works really well I |
| 8238s | personally don't |
| 8240s | I'm not a fan of Loki's I think in that |
| 8242s | com that cost too many points but um I |
| 8245s | think they're totally viable I think |
| 8246s | some teams may prefer them maybe it's |
| 8248s | you know they've got run different |
| 8249s | numbers and come up with a different |
| 8251s | conclusion |
| 8252s | um I yeah I don't really I don't use |
| 8254s | them myself |
| 8256s | um but I think they're totally viable |
| 8257s | and I think in that that setup in |
| 8258s | particular where you come up against |
| 8259s | Shield Rush versus Shield Rush |
| 8261s | in terms of execution it's quite an easy |
| 8263s | con because you're basically both doing |
| 8265s | the same thing right you're just ramming |
| 8266s | on to whatever you want to kill and |
| 8267s | firing all your missiles and killing it |
| 8269s | as quickly as possible but it's also |
| 8270s | kind of unforgiving because if you |
| 8272s | choose the wrong target as |
| 8274s | um no vacancies did and dark side didn't |
| 8276s | um it snowballs against you very very |
| 8278s | quickly |
| 8280s | do you think moderator the Novak could |
| 8283s | have done something different in that |
| 8284s | match when they warped in and they saw |
| 8286s | what Dark Side had brought the rages |
| 8288s | that they'd brought in |
| 8289s | um obviously they made a bunch of |
| 8290s | decisions including primering that lucky |
| 8292s | early on |
| 8294s | um you know let's say moderate as the |
| 8296s | captain of the Novak team European you |
| 8298s | see this you know what are you going to |
| 8299s | do |
| 8301s | if I'm the captain of the Novak team I |
| 8303s | basically have two different things I'm |
| 8305s | going to assign I'm going to tell my |
| 8308s | swipel and my Fly Catcher And The |
| 8310s | jackdaw you know you've got three of |
| 8312s | those you know very high damage |
| 8315s | um p3ds and then an interdictor you're |
| 8318s | gonna get on top of the scalpel and the |
| 8319s | Kirin and you're just gonna kill that |
| 8321s | and then once that's done either you're |
| 8323s | going to contribute to the fight or |
| 8325s | you're going to kill the bifrost and |
| 8328s | you're going to get rid of the lengths |
| 8329s | for the team or you're going to you know |
| 8331s | have some of your some of your guns on |
| 8334s | maybe even lodgy drones maybe not so |
| 8337s | much in a shield thrush but |
| 8339s | um |
| 8340s | just killing the using your low end uh |
| 8344s | to kill their low end provide so much |
| 8345s | value in utility and we saw how much |
| 8347s | Rico Russ and Mr caps the scalpel and |
| 8349s | Kieran respectively on Dark Side were |
| 8351s | able to do uh to keep that Fleet cycle |
| 8354s | and up towards the end of the match |
| 8356s | uh more just started talking there about |
| 8359s | things like the low end and stuff like |
| 8362s | that uh kind of break down the concept |
| 8364s | of you know low end top end uh and and |
| 8367s | how you would kind of put a comp |
| 8368s | together |
| 8369s | well I mean obviously you've got 100 |
| 8371s | points to spend right and you can't |
| 8372s | you've got certain limitations on what |
| 8374s | ships you can fly you've got to fit |
| 8375s | within 100 points you can't have more |
| 8378s | than four of a ship holes you can't have |
| 8379s | five battleships that would be illegal |
| 8381s | um so you need to sort of mix out the |
| 8382s | ship the sizes of your ships that you're |
| 8383s | choosing to fill and match at the same |
| 8385s | time |
| 8386s | um so you're gonna generally speaking |
| 8388s | obviously battleships and bigger classes |
| 8390s | are going to be more DPS focused because |
| 8392s | they've got the big guns they do more |
| 8393s | paper damage than expecting you know |
| 8396s | your Tristan is going to be your damage |
| 8397s | and that's not gonna work |
| 8400s | um so obviously you need to have a sort |
| 8401s | of mixed |
| 8402s | sort of setup of ships that work |
| 8404s | together in a comp so you may have you |
| 8405s | know heavy DPS these are all Nighthawks |
| 8407s | and Cyclone fleets and stuff that's just |
| 8408s | gonna get on the primary and go straight |
| 8410s | through it and then you've got you know |
| 8411s | you have you can't have a whole comp of |
| 8413s | that so you say or can deal with smaller |
| 8415s | stuff you know if we can bring a |
| 8416s | spitball we can bring a fly catcher we |
| 8417s | can get all these smaller missiles and |
| 8419s | that more effectively deals with the |
| 8420s | Enemy more ships |
| 8422s | and then taking that mod |
| 8425s | um let's say you want to start you know |
| 8427s | a team how do you develop a comp from an |
| 8430s | idea you know do you just kind of pick a |
| 8432s | couple of ships that sound cool and make |
| 8433s | it up to 100 points or is there a bit |
| 8435s | more uh you know wrinkly brains behind |
| 8438s | it |
| 8439s | yeah so I'm sure that battles will you |
| 8443s | know tell me plenty about why bringing |
| 8445s | you know four very cool owneros to a |
| 8447s | match is not a good idea |
| 8449s | um however there are a couple ways to go |
| 8452s | about this a lot of teams go off of |
| 8456s | um you know previous years archetypes |
| 8457s | and they see okay what worked in this |
| 8460s | year and how have things changed from |
| 8462s | then till now and continuing to use |
| 8465s | things that worked in the past and if |
| 8467s | the rules haven't changed too |
| 8468s | significantly |
| 8470s | um then doing it again unfortunately |
| 8472s | we've seen a lot of teams pretty early |
| 8474s | on in the feeders take comps for maybe |
| 8477s | three or four years ago and continuing |
| 8479s | to fly them and maybe not understanding |
| 8481s | why they worked then and the massive |
| 8484s | changes that have occurred to the game |
| 8486s | uh between them and now |
| 8489s | yeah and then we talk something you hear |
| 8491s | us talking a lot about things like |
| 8492s | archetypes and uh occasionally throwing |
| 8495s | out names like fly killer or kingslayer |
| 8498s | uh of course the infamous Octodad uh uh |
| 8501s | Plaza what are some of the the key |
| 8503s | archetypes that tend to get thrown |
| 8504s | around especially when you know at this |
| 8506s | stage of the tournament and as mod says |
| 8508s | a lot of teams will look at what was |
| 8509s | popular last year and and how they can |
| 8511s | adjust it to this year |
| 8513s | well I mean we've seen a fair few of |
| 8516s | them already we've seen as you said the |
| 8517s | Octodad in the first couple matches with |
| 8519s | all those battle cruises and cruisers |
| 8520s | with medium guns we just saw two Shield |
| 8522s | brushes I'm actually quite surprised it |
| 8524s | took until seven matches into the feed |
| 8525s | rounds for the first shield rush to |
| 8527s | appear we've obviously seen lots of |
| 8528s | double the Shacks |
| 8530s | um and if I was a sort of newer team |
| 8532s | coming into the tournament and trying to |
| 8534s | you know get a grasp of like I said at |
| 8536s | the top of the day |
| 8537s | um you know these teams are the first |
| 8538s | ones out this year you know they've got |
| 8540s | to come up and show their presentations |
| 8542s | to class before anyone else and uh get |
| 8544s | laughed at for what will turn out in |
| 8547s | hindsight to be you know maybe a Bad |
| 8548s | Company a bad meta read or something |
| 8551s | um so I if I was them I would try and |
| 8553s | choose something safe that they think is |
| 8555s | sort of versatile you can fly into a |
| 8556s | bunch of different matchups |
| 8558s | um and just be really confident and |
| 8560s | competent at that comp rather than |
| 8562s | trying to reinvent the wheel on your |
| 8563s | first time out like we saw it kind of go |
| 8565s | horribly wrong for banana when they |
| 8567s | brought this three scorpion to an exact |
| 8570s | two Hecate component yeah it's not |
| 8574s | yeah I've I've experienced that |
| 8575s | firsthand back in the day um I think it |
| 8577s | was Alliance tournament 12 or 13 I was |
| 8579s | in the uh the bastards I was one of the |
| 8582s | the leaders of that team with Nash |
| 8583s | cadaver and a couple of others and we |
| 8586s | then the day before one of our first |
| 8587s | matches we scrimmed Shadow cartel and |
| 8589s | they brought this thing we'd never seen |
| 8590s | before a bomber tinker and they just |
| 8593s | dominated us with it and we were like oh |
| 8594s | heck we didn't see that one coming so we |
| 8597s | just immediately copied and pasted it |
| 8598s | and then the next day flew it and |
| 8600s | managed to win with it so it's a case of |
| 8602s | look at what other people are doing see |
| 8603s | what people are having success with and |
| 8605s | try and figure out how best to use that |
| 8607s | some of the the top end teams will start |
| 8609s | to then develop that or try and you know |
| 8610s | go crazy but it's super easy to get |
| 8612s | yourself into this little Piper 3d |
| 8615s | crafting Hall of Doom where you come up |
| 8617s | with this thing that you think can be |
| 8619s | super good and then in practice against |
| 8621s | your practice Partners perhaps it works |
| 8623s | but against the rest of the wider world |
| 8624s | you end up getting again dunked on |
| 8626s | always into entertaining but it can be |
| 8629s | pretty pretty easy to get stuck in that |
| 8631s | hole now let's look forward to our next |
| 8632s | matches so the first matches that we've |
| 8634s | seen thus far have all been round one |
| 8637s | when and in if you won those matches you |
| 8640s | are in the main tournament now we're |
| 8642s | looking at some matches from round two |
| 8643s | there are still around one matches to go |
| 8645s | we'll see them tomorrow but for now |
| 8647s | we're moving on to round two so these |
| 8648s | are all teams that have lost a match now |
| 8651s | we're in an elimination |
| 8653s | so if you lose now you're going home if |
| 8656s | you win you do not go home you get to |
| 8658s | continue but you do not get straight |
| 8660s | entry into the tournament anymore so you |
| 8662s | have to win a couple of matches at this |
| 8663s | point forward to get into the tournament |
| 8665s | but as I said lose and you are done so |
| 8668s | our first match in that this bracket is |
| 8671s | going to be snuffed out versus banana so |
| 8674s | snuffed out uh dropped that match to |
| 8676s | gunstorm Federation uh earlier on today |
| 8679s | banana losing to platinum sensitivity |
| 8681s | and now they come up against each other |
| 8683s | I'm looking at twitch and you guys |
| 8686s | clearly favor snuffed out |
| 8688s | um over a million Channel points to uh |
| 8691s | just a hundred thousand for a banana so |
| 8693s | people uh death putting their money on |
| 8696s | snufftown moderator uh you you have |
| 8699s | stuffed out in the in the fantasy league |
| 8701s | that we're running uh what's your |
| 8703s | opinions on this match here |
| 8705s | I definitely did not draft uh draft |
| 8709s | snuff I drafted basilis's team leaving |
| 8712s | uh in him however I'm going to go with |
| 8715s | snuffed simply because banana brought |
| 8717s | probably one of the wonkiest |
| 8720s | um possibly one of the worst setups |
| 8722s | we've seen today with that triple |
| 8723s | scorpion I'm not sure what that was uh |
| 8726s | hopefully |
| 8727s | um |
| 8728s | you know they do that again so that |
| 8731s | stuff gets too advanced to the next |
| 8733s | round of feeders |
| 8735s | and basiliska do you do you Echo that |
| 8738s | opinion oh I see we have the bands |
| 8739s | actually let's have a take a quick look |
| 8740s | at them so snuffed out Banning execular |
| 8742s | Navy issue and the balgarh uh meanwhile |
| 8746s | from |
| 8748s | uh banana we see the bar guest and the |
| 8751s | Blackbird uh Baza thoughts on these |
| 8753s | bands here |
| 8754s | I really like this from banana I think |
| 8756s | banana have said snuff maybe you didn't |
| 8759s | work in that first game but you've got |
| 8760s | to bring something else now |
| 8762s | um so they've they're forcing snuff to |
| 8764s | show something different which maybe |
| 8765s | maybe Bernard themselves looked at that |
| 8767s | and thought we don't know how we would |
| 8768s | deal with this |
| 8770s | um so they've just elected to ban it and |
| 8772s | say it's enough you got to do something |
| 8773s | else it's enough spans are pretty |
| 8775s | generic executive I think that's pretty |
| 8777s | broadly applicable pretty decent set of |
| 8779s | bands |
| 8780s | yeah the executive Navy a super powerful |
| 8782s | ship these days uh it was kind of buffed |
| 8785s | just before Alliance tournament last |
| 8787s | year and it found its way very quickly |
| 8789s | into the meta powerful tanky fast uh |
| 8792s | there's a lot of DPS I expect we'll see |
| 8795s | that band a lot obviously in the |
| 8797s | theaters here teams are limited to just |
| 8799s | two bands uh which is much less than the |
| 8802s | main Alliance tournament and there's |
| 8803s | only two trickle bands a total of four |
| 8805s | it's definitely a lot lighter for 3D |
| 8807s | crafting it's harder to get yourself |
| 8809s | completely banned out of any comp that |
| 8811s | you're looking for especially if you |
| 8813s | look uh towards the the grand finals |
| 8815s | when you're talking about Conquest band |
| 8816s | systems with potentially you know 20 to |
| 8819s | 30 ships being banned out it can be |
| 8821s | pretty phenomenal uh we will at the end |
| 8824s | of the feeders in the galante gamble the |
| 8826s | final matches will be a complete and |
| 8829s | utter |
| 8830s | pile of nonsense is going to be |
| 8831s | incredible uh galenti ships only all |
| 8834s | normal points are still in effect |
| 8837s | um but there's no bands no restrictions |
| 8840s | just galantis yeah I have no idea what's |
| 8842s | going to happen there I've absolutely |
| 8844s | it's going to be absolutely crazy but we |
| 8847s | can talk about that a little bit later |
| 8848s | because it is time to head over to the |
| 8851s | arena with our casters I like working |
| 8853s | out for a snuff Dart versus banana |
| 8861s | welcome welcome snuffed out with a rare |
| 8864s | command and control comp double curse |
| 8867s | triple command ship with a small |
| 8868s | Logistics frigate core wing nut what do |
| 8871s | we have on the banana side |
| 8875s | [Music] |
| 8878s | snake and I believe they're both |
| 8879s | cruising just double triple checking and |
| 8881s | Yep they're both Cruise fits we've got |
| 8883s | long range projection plus an oracle try |
| 8884s | and do more damage so |
| 8886s | I'm interested to see what happens with |
| 8887s | this one if that curse is brought those |
| 8889s | coasters brought uh missile guy |
| 8890s | instructors these might have some |
| 8891s | trouble applying to literally anything |
| 8898s | um the curses are in an armor comp so I |
| 8900s | think it is quite likely that they're |
| 8901s | gonna have that missile guidance |
| 8903s | disruptor tracking disruptor Med slots |
| 8906s | question is did they go all in on one or |
| 8910s | the other or have they split the |
| 8912s | difference |
| 8912s | I suspect they probably split it but |
| 8915s | still it's I still have a potential for |
| 8916s | a lot of e-war as much as I started now |
| 8919s | we have to see where damage goes firstly |
| 8920s | getting shots of character which makes |
| 8921s | sense that's probably what would be my |
| 8924s | media first Target because they are so |
| 8925s | low tank in comparison to everything |
| 8927s | around them the Sig is massive that they |
| 8929s | resist the crap they are very easy to |
| 8931s | kill and they're about 400 plus DPS of |
| 8933s | ship that you can kill like that but it |
| 8936s | did not work yet |
| 8939s | unfortunately the curses are going to be |
| 8941s | a little bit tougher you can see jazza's |
| 8943s | curse drawing the initial fire but |
| 8946s | they've already pulled drones back |
| 8948s | banana uh I guess changing their mind on |
| 8951s | this maybe they've |
| 8952s | decided to do some kind of micro jump |
| 8955s | play but they have withdrawn all of |
| 8957s | their drones oh they're getting shot the |
| 8959s | drones are being shot that is the issue |
| 8963s | yeah I think um back in we're kind of |
| 8966s | reset here |
| 8967s | they're not exactly um |
| 8969s | I was actually willing to make the move |
| 8971s | just yet but uh yeah with the Confessor |
| 8973s | Vengeance on the uh snuff side if they |
| 8976s | put out drones they could be very easily |
| 8977s | killed the Confessor is actually quite |
| 8979s | Adept it's just obliterating drones and |
| 8981s | sharps |
| 8984s | being quite tentative here uh now the |
| 8987s | longer this match goes theoretically |
| 8989s | snuffed out has the advantage however |
| 8991s | the newts have not come into play the |
| 8994s | banana team is outside of range of the |
| 8996s | curses who are just very slowly inching |
| 8999s | their way forward here the snuffed out |
| 9001s | team staying composed staying tight into |
| 9003s | a ball whereas the banana team it spread |
| 9007s | itself out here uh they're making faints |
| 9010s | here and there but nothing is truly |
| 9012s | committing to this fight and there's not |
| 9014s | much damage getting slung out in either |
| 9016s | direction |
| 9017s | yeah so normally these are two Cruise |
| 9020s | battleships could slowly constantly |
| 9021s | project damage upon their enemies and |
| 9023s | just slowly nibble and Nick and things |
| 9025s | and start hurt them but with the twin |
| 9028s | curses it is kind of hard for them to |
| 9029s | actually make that work when they're |
| 9030s | being damped or like a dead missile |
| 9032s | guidance to hell |
| 9033s | look at damage going into the Oracle now |
| 9035s | they might start be going for the weaker |
| 9037s | ships around that's not gonna die yep |
| 9038s | and here we go the snuffs out team is |
| 9040s | charging forward they are committing to |
| 9043s | the Oracle who is pulling range however |
| 9045s | these scorpion Navy issue is |
| 9048s | tantalizingly close they may decide to |
| 9050s | go with it just because it's at hand |
| 9052s | the oracle's right at the back of there |
| 9053s | also snuff guys are going around at the |
| 9055s | moment trying to get underneath trying |
| 9056s | to get past these two battleships so |
| 9057s | keeping an eye on them see if they're |
| 9058s | going to try and keep themselves in |
| 9060s | front yep the scope Navy of uh Marcel |
| 9063s | marcelini can't say that |
| 9066s | um they're trying to currently intersect |
| 9068s | the uh at least enough Fleet and stay in |
| 9070s | front of them because if these |
| 9071s | battleships can stay in front they snuff |
| 9073s | team can't really get past or hit the |
| 9074s | weak stuff in the back |
| 9076s | now speaking of they're me attempting to |
| 9079s | make a play for the carries of James and |
| 9081s | nabler but he is piloting well and |
| 9083s | avoiding most of the damage only taking |
| 9085s | some light shots and shield as he had to |
| 9087s | turn around but once his speed gets up |
| 9090s | it doesn't look like it will have the |
| 9092s | application to touch him unless the |
| 9094s | newts get on to turn that prop mod off |
| 9097s | so yeah basically at the moment I think |
| 9099s | the uh support wing of bananas need to |
| 9101s | get around and get behind their |
| 9102s | battleships again I'm pretty much forced |
| 9103s | enough to keep burning around chasing |
| 9105s | you see the uh the Articles actually was |
| 9107s | in kind of a weird spot there he's kind |
| 9109s | of he was a little separated out but |
| 9111s | he's burning back and actually get lodgy |
| 9112s | and saved again but at the moment |
| 9114s | bananas can't really make a hole and |
| 9116s | snuff is kind of slowly but surely |
| 9117s | pressuring him a little bit more and |
| 9119s | more and all it takes is one mistake and |
| 9120s | snuff can kill a single ship and just |
| 9122s | leave this match and win |
| 9124s | as Force feeding that scorpion Navy |
| 9126s | issue into the snuff team he's making |
| 9128s | himself very available but they're just |
| 9131s | not going for it uh you just got down |
| 9134s | now mhm |
| 9136s | but they're not really committed that's |
| 9138s | very hard to remove then just one of the |
| 9140s | most annoying Taco ships around you |
| 9142s | can't even nude it it gets a cat bonus a |
| 9143s | cap regen bonus so it just sits there |
| 9144s | and keeps us happy this is huge this is |
| 9146s | huge the hyena is caught adana's hyena |
| 9149s | is heavily got is surrounded by a cloud |
| 9152s | of drones he's just now managed to shake |
| 9155s | free and speed up |
| 9156s | oh that was a very scary situation for |
| 9159s | that hyena he's I don't know what he's |
| 9161s | earnings |
| 9165s | I think he just got attacked by drawings |
| 9166s | for a second he slowed down for a little |
| 9167s | bit and just whap |
| 9169s | and uh because there's nothing around |
| 9170s | him to tackle him but meanwhile the |
| 9172s | caracal again being hurt so at the |
| 9174s | moment snuff is really pressure they're |
| 9175s | pressuring everyone meanwhile at the |
| 9177s | moment bananas have they've hurt a curse |
| 9179s | a little bit but it's not moving they've |
| 9180s | heard of Vengeance it's not moving EOS |
| 9182s | not moving they just can't really do |
| 9184s | anything this cruise ship seem to be |
| 9186s | entirely uh neutered by the double |
| 9188s | double curse comp |
| 9191s | yeah we're about to hit the five minute |
| 9192s | Mark the halfway point of this match and |
| 9194s | finally the characters |
| 9198s | there's a bunch of drones out there pop |
| 9200s | caracal's gone and that honestly is the |
| 9202s | way this is going that's gonna be it but |
| 9204s | not as neat to make a move now they're |
| 9206s | gonna find something they can grab grab |
| 9207s | it and kill as fast as humanly possible |
| 9209s | but snuff just not gonna let that happen |
| 9212s | definitely not they're going for the |
| 9214s | Confessor here of Athena but that is a |
| 9216s | tanky tanky ship once it switches back |
| 9218s | into defense mode meanwhile the Oracle |
| 9221s | has taken chunks now |
| 9223s | it has got some news on it it's not |
| 9225s | gonna be able to tank very effectively |
| 9227s | and there it goes surely here it comes |
| 9230s | the Confessor is currently in Sharp |
| 9231s | Shooting mode and he's still tanking |
| 9232s | quite comfortably so that fisher is not |
| 9234s | even bring pressure at all cruises not |
| 9236s | doing well especially being potentially |
| 9238s | double guns disrupted from both ships |
| 9245s | starting to apply damage to these |
| 9247s | smaller targets more reliably is the |
| 9248s | Kirin of dionox is taken down to uh one |
| 9251s | third shield and at this point banana is |
| 9254s | not really able to answer effectively |
| 9257s | once the hyena is gone for uh there is |
| 9260s | no coming back that's the only real |
| 9261s | application to help them with these |
| 9263s | Cruise setups they're hyena pops they |
| 9265s | might as well just self-destruct the |
| 9266s | ships and uh go do something else for |
| 9268s | lunch because they've gotten no chance |
| 9270s | at that point but also like at this |
| 9271s | point they're already kind of going that |
| 9272s | way they can't really break anything |
| 9273s | they're going for an Absolution those |
| 9275s | are absurdly tanky |
| 9278s | that's the best option it just gets |
| 9279s | worse for a banana here as the curses |
| 9281s | finally have their hooks into the |
| 9283s | logistics Logistics frigates |
| 9285s | neutralizing their tanks and their |
| 9287s | ability to keep the other ships alive |
| 9288s | the longer this match goes on I set it |
| 9291s | at the top of this I assuming at the |
| 9292s | start of this match the longer it goes |
| 9294s | on the more it is in favor of snuffed |
| 9296s | outs capacitor control setup and they |
| 9299s | are sitting very comfortably now they |
| 9301s | have fewer targets to have to worry |
| 9303s | about and they don't obviously they're |
| 9305s | not able to put out enough damage to |
| 9307s | seriously threaten them especially that |
| 9308s | Confessor outside of sharp outside of |
| 9311s | defense mode probably one of their |
| 9313s | softer targets if it's not being forced |
| 9315s | to switch back they are absolutely in |
| 9317s | the driver's seat right now |
| 9318s | exactly and this the matches like this |
| 9321s | is maybe the post perfect poster child |
| 9323s | for it but this is what curses are so |
| 9324s | feared one curse can control a match two |
| 9328s | curses it if flown right with good parts |
| 9330s | and good calling can basically pull an |
| 9332s | entire team apart these two battleships |
| 9334s | are worthless like they could leave them |
| 9337s | alone they don't care these battleships |
| 9338s | can't do anything because these curses |
| 9340s | have gotten disrupted them to Absolute |
| 9341s | hell and back |
| 9342s | they haven't killed a hyena yet they've |
| 9345s | still got the target payments from the |
| 9346s | hyena to try and apply it to something |
| 9348s | and they're still failing curses are not |
| 9351s | even worried about that hyena the damage |
| 9353s | there's not sweating stuff snuffed out |
| 9355s | right now as the command ships left her |
| 9357s | right down that's the links and a |
| 9359s | significant source of anti-cruiser |
| 9361s | damage gone from the banana team |
| 9364s | and they're just dropping left and right |
| 9365s | the hyena has finally dropped the |
| 9367s | Kiernan scalpel are not able to |
| 9369s | effectively influence this match if they |
| 9372s | get anywhere close to the fighting |
| 9374s | they're neutered out immediately and now |
| 9375s | we can see the Kirin starting to take a |
| 9377s | little bit of Chip damage as the bulk of |
| 9379s | damage seems to be focused on this raven |
| 9381s | Navy |
| 9383s | you might also pick whatever you want at |
| 9384s | this point but yeah you can see like the |
| 9386s | close school of Navy and Raven Navy have |
| 9388s | been shooting the entire time by the way |
| 9389s | like it may look like it but they've |
| 9391s | been firing the entire match there's |
| 9393s | just nothing they can do like they they |
| 9395s | can barely graze anything you might also |
| 9397s | just start shooting a big ship and pray |
| 9399s | and even then it's not really going to |
| 9400s | work with two curses ruining you day |
| 9403s | yeah we're now about a minute and a half |
| 9405s | left there is a very realistic chance |
| 9407s | this match goes to time as the uh |
| 9410s | stuffed out team still has a pretty big |
| 9412s | pile of hit points to go through with |
| 9413s | the Raven Navy and especially that |
| 9415s | scorpion Navy one of the more tankier |
| 9417s | battleships in the game with a strong |
| 9419s | resist bonus but unfortunately not an |
| 9422s | application bonus so there's really not |
| 9424s | much they can do to answer back as now |
| 9426s | there's scalpel Paco Hemingway takes |
| 9428s | absolute chunks out and he just gets |
| 9430s | shredded |
| 9431s | oh that was brutal |
| 9434s | yep let's watch the bar for us go the |
| 9435s | exact same way then again here's a far |
| 9438s | distance away he kind of knows what's |
| 9439s | coming |
| 9441s | like son likes Father Like Father Like |
| 9443s | Son Paco Jr now going down |
| 9448s | I assume he's dual boxing otherwise |
| 9450s | that's just a |
| 9452s | a very humorous coincidence but Paco Jr |
| 9455s | about to drop that's the last of the |
| 9457s | links here not that it's gonna help them |
| 9459s | much they will probably still have links |
| 9461s | for the remainder of this match as we're |
| 9462s | ticking down close to 30 seconds |
| 9464s | remaining |
| 9466s | is it possible they'll get one of these |
| 9467s | battleships they're sure gonna try as |
| 9469s | they go after this raven Navy issue |
| 9471s | digging it down to about uh 75 Shields |
| 9475s | here it is going down rather quickly but |
| 9478s | they may have some local tank on it to |
| 9480s | keep it up as we're now ticking down |
| 9482s | very close to the end of the match |
| 9483s | nearly 15 seconds left |
| 9486s | you'll definitely survive they don't |
| 9487s | have the DPS this comp is not about |
| 9488s | damage it's about full control and they |
| 9490s | have managed that very very well that |
| 9493s | Raven Navy should buy All rights unless |
| 9494s | it's some really weird fit survive to |
| 9496s | the end and there we go five seconds |
| 9497s | left he's gonna make it Bravo to Snuff |
| 9499s | you're finally not been trashing a |
| 9502s | tournament |
| 9503s | whoa |
| 9505s | a pick |
| 9508s | it's sending this one back to the desk |
| 9510s | for analysis |
| 9514s | [Music] |
| 9528s | right |
| 9532s | [Applause] |
| 9545s | connected Channel switched well it would |
| 9548s | have been a easy fight right but guess |
| 9550s | what dude I'm not seeing it people can't |
| 9552s | get they're fit together |
| 9559s | your temps are completely damned out |
| 9561s | Crush I'm dumped out I'm dumped out you |
| 9563s | don't like Chambers boys |
| 9572s | I'm jammed |
| 9574s | well there you have it snuff Dart taking |
| 9577s | their first W |
| 9579s | um in the tournament and moving on from |
| 9582s | round to into round three so they're one |
| 9584s | step closer to getting one of those |
| 9586s | remaining four places uh that do exist |
| 9589s | in in the tournament they didn't get in |
| 9592s | first time round they lost to the guns |
| 9594s | from Federation but that was a |
| 9595s | commanding victory over at the banana |
| 9598s | team it looked like perhaps even some |
| 9599s | Jewel boxing there from the banana team |
| 9601s | which honestly love to see it it's |
| 9603s | usually not a good idea in the last |
| 9605s | tournament but I love the effort uh and |
| 9608s | you know throwback to Newton open back |
| 9610s | in the day team Cube one guy took eight |
| 9613s | ships uh multivox all of them got |
| 9615s | absolutely Giga dunked upon uh and |
| 9618s | immediately but you know big respect to |
| 9621s | the guy cautionary tale of whoa |
| 9624s | exactly |
| 9625s | um is you know phenomenal effort even if |
| 9627s | it resulted in absolutely nothing uh now |
| 9630s | I have a question on that comp there |
| 9632s | moderator uh from uh the banana side I |
| 9635s | mean both sides at the start actually |
| 9637s | this is probably the same question but |
| 9639s | what even is damage |
| 9643s | you know damage is a state of being a |
| 9647s | state of being that you are absolutely |
| 9649s | not in if you have two battleships that |
| 9653s | are being guidance disrupted down to |
| 9654s | under 30 kilometers and an Oracle Shield |
| 9657s | Oracle we'll get to that later but |
| 9660s | essentially those two snuff |
| 9662s | um |
| 9663s | uh it was curses excuse me that's what |
| 9666s | I'm looking for completely |
| 9669s | shut down 60 points worth of utility at |
| 9673s | work the top end from that banana team |
| 9676s | and then put pressure onto the logic |
| 9679s | um who despite being you know out of rep |
| 9682s | range from pretty much everything the |
| 9683s | entire time uh couldn't have the |
| 9685s | capacitor to do anything anyway |
| 9688s | yeah we saw |
| 9690s | um at the start both teams uh just kind |
| 9693s | of positioning around the arena uh both |
| 9695s | sides declining the opportunity to to |
| 9698s | head in and start trying to do damage |
| 9700s | and the attack bar is just right at zero |
| 9703s | neither team able to apply anything both |
| 9705s | sides being controlled Darren I was |
| 9708s | looking at that match watching those two |
| 9710s | teams sort of like you know move around |
| 9712s | each other each trying to get into the |
| 9713s | octal position before they they commit |
| 9715s | and I the guy said I was like I could |
| 9716s | see this match ending when someone |
| 9718s | accidentally boundaries and that's it uh |
| 9721s | it was it was a cautionary tale of you |
| 9723s | know you need to be positioning sure but |
| 9725s | if you wait too long especially against |
| 9727s | a team that has dual curses then as the |
| 9731s | Caster said during that match the |
| 9732s | advantage for that team is just going to |
| 9734s | slowly creep up the longer and longer it |
| 9736s | goes Baza is there anything that banana |
| 9739s | kids have perhaps done differently based |
| 9740s | on what they had there |
| 9742s | oh that match was so disappointing for |
| 9744s | so many ways I wanted to see banana one |
| 9746s | zero and knock snuff out that would have |
| 9747s | been so funny that would have been the |
| 9749s | most hilarious possible circumstance |
| 9752s | um so looking at the banana com |
| 9753s | unfortunately I mean both teams fielded |
| 9755s | a very low DPS comp I felt like snuff |
| 9757s | snuff will get to their comp later but |
| 9759s | they spend 30 30 points on two curses |
| 9762s | which together sure they bring a lot of |
| 9763s | Newton a lot of disruption but between |
| 9765s | them it's like 500 DPS maximum it's |
| 9768s | really not a huge amount sure it sort of |
| 9769s | amplifies what you've already got from |
| 9770s | turning off hardeners and Reps and such |
| 9772s | but |
| 9773s | um not a huge fan of that personally but |
| 9774s | looking at the banana con going back to |
| 9775s | that is |
| 9777s | yeah they just didn't they didn't have |
| 9778s | the damage to really break through |
| 9780s | anything it felt sort of a mismatch of |
| 9782s | it well like you know you've got 10 |
| 9784s | Shield ships but there's no particular |
| 9786s | cohesive |
| 9787s | design behind all these 10 Shield ships |
| 9789s | together and that's one of the difficult |
| 9791s | things I don't want to um Reign on their |
| 9793s | parade obviously they're now out of the |
| 9795s | tournament it's a sad day for them |
| 9797s | um but it's one it is a high skill |
| 9799s | ceiling to sort of identify and learn |
| 9800s | how to build these comps how to put |
| 9801s | things together organically and that's |
| 9803s | why as we were saying before the match |
| 9805s | um sometimes it may just be better to |
| 9806s | look at what's inreliable what's been |
| 9808s | easy to fly and what's worked in |
| 9809s | previous years and and try and build off |
| 9811s | that for a newer tournament rather than |
| 9814s | trying to come up with something new and |
| 9816s | fresh that nobody else is doing |
| 9818s | yeah I mean I agree banana Unfortunately |
| 9821s | they are the first team uh to drop out |
| 9823s | of the feeders uh that this year |
| 9826s | um you know I think the answer is more |
| 9829s | approachable and more beginner friendly |
| 9831s | for teams than it has ever been |
| 9832s | especially if these videos taking place |
| 9833s | on Thunderdome and I love to see teams |
| 9835s | have maybe never competed before uh take |
| 9837s | that first step and compete and I mean |
| 9840s | let's let's be fair to Banana they had a |
| 9842s | pretty rough uh rough ride they came up |
| 9844s | against Platinum sensitivity in their |
| 9846s | first round a really solid team with |
| 9848s | experienced uh pilots and then the cup |
| 9851s | came up against snuffed out who are a |
| 9854s | team and unfortunately it just wasn't |
| 9856s | enough for them to be able to to get |
| 9857s | through in this stage but banana I |
| 9860s | salute you uh it was uh it was great to |
| 9862s | have you and I hope we see you again |
| 9864s | next year plus Alliance logo that would |
| 9866s | be super super cool now let's look |
| 9869s | forward to our next match up it is |
| 9871s | wormholer versus wormholer and that is |
| 9874s | Kitchen sinkhole versus worm again and |
| 9876s | Mark resurrectus is is uh absolutely |
| 9879s | besides himself with Glee finally the |
| 9882s | wormholers will get a w now I say this |
| 9885s | is a wormhole apologist like I'm a big |
| 9888s | fan of most of these Wormhole groups I |
| 9889s | don't understand how it's just been so |
| 9892s | bad for wormholes this far so one way or |
| 9895s | another a wormhole team will win this |
| 9897s | match and I'm ready for I'm here for it |
| 9900s | of course uh you know throwback to last |
| 9902s | year Odin's called Wormhole group second |
| 9904s | place in the alliance tournament |
| 9905s | essentially kind of just stormed onto |
| 9907s | the scene they've been making moves for |
| 9909s | a while I don't think anyone expected |
| 9911s | them to to get second place off so there |
| 9914s | is some solid talent in wormholes so |
| 9916s | never never count them out of course uh |
| 9919s | basilisk what do you think about these |
| 9920s | bands here on the screen kitchen |
| 9922s | sinkhole Banning an Armageddon Navy |
| 9923s | issue and aniros whereas worm again |
| 9926s | Banning out the Scimitar and the |
| 9928s | Blackbird |
| 9930s | yeah I think these are all four good |
| 9932s | bands I think at this stage in the |
| 9933s | feeders like I said earlier when you've |
| 9934s | only got two bands it can be very |
| 9935s | difficult to um you know specifically |
| 9937s | ban out a specific comp or a specific |
| 9939s | archetype that you don't want to see and |
| 9940s | I think in general applying these sort |
| 9943s | of generalist bands that you know maybe |
| 9945s | you don't want to see tattoo logic |
| 9947s | Cruiser so you're gonna you don't want |
| 9948s | to see like an armor control kit set up |
| 9950s | so you try and do one band or two bands |
| 9952s | that deals with that or near us armaged |
| 9953s | a Navy it doesn't rule out completely |
| 9955s | but they're sort of broadly applicable |
| 9956s | in those types of cons same on the other |
| 9958s | side Scimitar and Blackbird they're just |
| 9960s | so versatile ships they have a lot of |
| 9962s | ground |
| 9964s | well do you agree with that I mean the |
| 9966s | Blackbird |
| 9967s | um is what do you think about that band |
| 9969s | ecm's a bit of a dice roll is it is it |
| 9970s | that strong you want to ban it out with |
| 9972s | one of your two bands |
| 9974s | yeah I mean I think it's a generically |
| 9977s | good band for the most part it gets um A |
| 9980s | Little Bit Stronger when you have three |
| 9981s | bins like best list was saying and |
| 9983s | you're like okay I can ban like |
| 9985s | Blackbird Kitsune you know and then |
| 9989s | Force someone to bring tech one lodgy or |
| 9991s | Force commit to like a rook |
| 9994s | um I'm sure we'll see plenty of that |
| 9995s | later in the at but for right now a |
| 9998s | blackbird is just you get a lot of |
| 10000s | utility in terms of how many jams you |
| 10002s | get how much power those jams have or |
| 10004s | the amount of points they cost so it's a |
| 10006s | it's a fair band |
| 10009s | awesome and then of course basilisk by |
| 10011s | Banning out that in Euros you still |
| 10013s | leave the guardian |
| 10014s | um is that a choice perhaps we might see |
| 10016s | here |
| 10017s | I think the guardian is is a totally |
| 10019s | legitimate choice but obviously it has |
| 10020s | different strengths and weaknesses to |
| 10021s | the nearest it's got more repping power |
| 10023s | but it might require you to sort of load |
| 10025s | up some receivers allocate a couple |
| 10027s | minutes elsewhere in the comp |
| 10028s | um excuse me for like receivos |
| 10031s | um to try and buff up that Guardian |
| 10032s | maybe cat transfers so you can try and |
| 10034s | chain up like with the vexer or |
| 10035s | something |
| 10036s | um so I think yeah the nearest the |
| 10038s | nearest is a good band because it forces |
| 10040s | teams to sort of if they want to run a |
| 10042s | comp within an Eros they may need to |
| 10043s | switch it up slightly if they want to |
| 10045s | run a guardian in the same sort of |
| 10046s | fashion |
| 10047s | awesome well let's head over to the |
| 10051s | arena right now for kitchen sinkhole |
| 10053s | versus wormageddon with uh Blackboard |
| 10056s | part Bart pirate and Chad Flame |
| 10063s | hello this is Blackbird pirate joined by |
| 10066s | Chad flame and we are seeing kitchen |
| 10068s | sinkhole versus worm again worm again |
| 10070s | doing an incredibly ballsy move and |
| 10073s | warping their entire fleet Sands their |
| 10075s | Logie to zero uh they are bringing a |
| 10078s | variation of that heavy assault missile |
| 10080s | Shield Rush that we saw a little bit ago |
| 10081s | with Darkseid uh Chad what is Kitchen |
| 10084s | sinkhole got |
| 10086s | looks too I brought a kingslayer set up |
| 10089s | with their three rapid heavy battleships |
| 10091s | being two typhoons and a bar gust with |
| 10093s | some T2 frigate laundry curious for |
| 10096s | damps and heretic comment or attack uh |
| 10099s | this is going to be an interesting match |
| 10100s | see who gets the lead first and how |
| 10103s | quickly worm again can get in on kitchen |
| 10104s | sinkhole |
| 10107s | oh well it looks like it's actually |
| 10108s | going to be very quickly uh the tackle |
| 10110s | from worm again is actually already on |
| 10112s | top of kitchen sinkhole uh they used a |
| 10114s | crow which is when something we don't |
| 10115s | really see but the crow Sky breaker and |
| 10118s | flycatcher have already gone in and uh |
| 10120s | looks like they might have overshot |
| 10122s | their targets a little bit so a little |
| 10123s | bit of a piloting fail there but they |
| 10125s | are now grabbing some tackle lots of |
| 10127s | heavy assault or rapid heavy missile |
| 10129s | launcher damage coming out on that Fleet |
| 10131s | Cyclone of ulric but the typhoon is |
| 10134s | actually getting melted quite hard here |
| 10135s | too |
| 10138s | yeah uh bubbles were dropped on the |
| 10140s | kitchen cycle team a little bit closer |
| 10142s | to Sutter Arena so worm again is burning |
| 10143s | through their own bubbles right now but |
| 10145s | you're also looking through the Shield |
| 10146s | versus Armor and The Shield is dying way |
| 10149s | quicker as we already see the typhoon |
| 10151s | Fleet in the Cyclone Fleet about to go |
| 10154s | down while the uh typhoon plates only in |
| 10156s | half armor currently |
| 10159s | yes they also did lose a crow there and |
| 10161s | I I think that gourmageddon might have |
| 10163s | actually out uh sped in their ships away |
| 10166s | from the Osprey uh the Osprey did |
| 10169s | actually come ramming and now the Nelly |
| 10170s | Osprey is getting shot quite quickly |
| 10172s | it's uh it got damped in flew in too |
| 10174s | close and the Osprey of room again is |
| 10176s | about to drop as well so kingslayer |
| 10178s | doing what it was good at which is |
| 10179s | alfing logistics and uh berolt's typhoon |
| 10182s | Fleet issue is holding in about half |
| 10184s | armor uh these are rapid heavy missile |
| 10187s | launcher battleships so they should be |
| 10188s | hitting a Reload here shortly which will |
| 10190s | mean that worm again will have a chance |
| 10192s | to kind of claw their way back into this |
| 10194s | possibly |
| 10196s | these are gonna have a chance to play |
| 10198s | catch-up here with those reloads taking |
| 10200s | a good portion of time so damage will |
| 10203s | probably fall off your momentarily we |
| 10205s | might see this fly catcher go down due |
| 10206s | to drones but you know it's all going to |
| 10209s | be a form again can get this typhoon uh |
| 10212s | down quicker it seems like they're |
| 10213s | struggling to get it down so they might |
| 10215s | get it down but by the time it's down |
| 10217s | your single is going to be shooting |
| 10219s | their rapid Heavies again and just |
| 10220s | taking down ships at the speed of light |
| 10223s | that they were doing to start this match |
| 10227s | indeed and it does look like that reload |
| 10228s | has already happened it's actually not |
| 10230s | as long as it feels like uh the fleet |
| 10233s | typhoon did go down in the end but |
| 10235s | they're taking out that Cyclone Fleet |
| 10237s | issue right now uh looks like worm again |
| 10238s | has lost a significant portion of their |
| 10240s | DPS and now kitchen sinkhole is being |
| 10243s | very smart and they're wiping out that |
| 10244s | low end with those rapid Heavies they |
| 10246s | get them web scrammed painted uh all of |
| 10250s | those fun and exciting things that Navy |
| 10251s | Osprey is almost dead here too and I |
| 10253s | think worm again is kind of just out of |
| 10256s | luck at this point |
| 10258s | um surprising interesting ways we're |
| 10261s | seeing some big throwback comps I think |
| 10262s | moderator talked about it a little bit |
| 10263s | ago where people are flying things from |
| 10265s | you know years past but uh it seems to |
| 10268s | be working for kitchen sinkhole we don't |
| 10270s | haven't really seen this specific setup |
| 10272s | be that successful in the past couple |
| 10274s | eight but it's doing great against the |
| 10276s | Shield setup |
| 10278s | yeah um definitely noting as well that |
| 10282s | the worm again team does not look like |
| 10284s | they got a like their tackle Wing got in |
| 10287s | immediately but all their small tackle |
| 10288s | ships died off fairly quick due to those |
| 10291s | rapid Heavies they're only holding a |
| 10292s | Bargas so now after this Vargas dies |
| 10295s | they're gonna have to go play tackle on |
| 10297s | a typhoon just a very fast ship so it's |
| 10300s | going to come down to piloting if they |
| 10302s | want to heat have a chance but you're |
| 10304s | down to by the time this Marcus die is |
| 10306s | probably just a Nighthawk and a miracle |
| 10309s | Navy which you're not going to be doing |
| 10310s | fairly well against uh uh Fleet |
| 10313s | battleships |
| 10315s | you know that being said if they do take |
| 10318s | this Vargus out before the Claymore |
| 10320s | drops uh this could possibly still go in |
| 10323s | wormageddon's favor because once that |
| 10325s | Vargas goes down there really is only |
| 10327s | two DPS ships left on the kitchen |
| 10328s | sinkhole side which would be that Navy |
| 10330s | executor in the other Fleet typhoon I |
| 10332s | don't think that the claimer is going to |
| 10333s | survive but it's entirely possible uh |
| 10336s | you know now that I said that it looks |
| 10337s | like the Bargas remembered that it does |
| 10339s | in fact probably have an ancillary |
| 10340s | wrapper and has rep itself up full uh |
| 10342s | with Tyrion heckey dropping quite |
| 10344s | quickly here and soon to be gone |
| 10349s | yeah that reactive definitely spooling |
| 10351s | up being an armor ship definitely a |
| 10353s | benefit over Shield there uh but two |
| 10355s | damage ships on grid really that reactor |
| 10357s | is going to spool in One Direction it's |
| 10359s | going to be way easier for that Vargas |
| 10361s | to catch reps as it did it doesn't look |
| 10363s | like they have the damage to take |
| 10364s | anything out on this grid anymore |
| 10366s | through these two powerful frigate |
| 10368s | loggers |
| 10371s | yeah it does seem that the frigate |
| 10372s | lodgies uh survived you know very very |
| 10375s | uh well without having any thing really |
| 10378s | messing with them there's been EC drones |
| 10380s | on the Deacon for the entire time but EC |
| 10382s | drones sometimes they work great |
| 10384s | sometimes they didn't they didn't seem |
| 10385s | to work that great this time the |
| 10387s | Nighthawk is dropping quite quickly here |
| 10389s | as well uh we've seen Nighthawks just |
| 10391s | kind of popping usually they're super |
| 10392s | tanky ships but it does look like |
| 10394s | kitchen sinkhole is going to completely |
| 10396s | clean this up only losing a single Fleet |
| 10398s | typhoon and the lone skybreaker Mr |
| 10400s | Frosty is flying around uh maybe |
| 10404s | prolonging the match a little bit trying |
| 10405s | to get a little bit more screen time who |
| 10407s | knows |
| 10409s | yep |
| 10411s | you know that was definitely a |
| 10414s | uh for how much of a rush that was I'm |
| 10417s | shocked that the match did not go |
| 10418s | quicker in a sense that we are currently |
| 10421s | just past the halfway mark |
| 10423s | seems like Shield uh Rush comps are not |
| 10426s | getting stuff down as quick as they |
| 10427s | thought they would |
| 10430s | no not really and it does look like Mr |
| 10432s | Frosty is actually going to attempt to |
| 10434s | do the boundary but I think they |
| 10437s | actually overshot the mjd beacon and |
| 10439s | were not able to activate in time so uh |
| 10441s | it's likely that all these little drones |
| 10442s | are going to catch up and blow them up |
| 10444s | before they were able to actually get |
| 10446s | their mjd off uh too bad obviously |
| 10448s | people always try and go for the |
| 10449s | boundary record uh they are actually |
| 10451s | mjding back into the blob of people so |
| 10454s | you know trying to get their uh trying |
| 10457s | to get their moment in the Sun as much |
| 10459s | as possible here also a huge shout out |
| 10461s | to the new missile effects they're not |
| 10463s | all that new but we're getting really |
| 10465s | really good footage of them and they |
| 10467s | look super amazing so good job CCP art |
| 10469s | team you're always knocking it out of |
| 10470s | the box for |
| 10472s | gosh almost two decades now |
| 10475s | also shout out to that camera crew uh |
| 10478s | getting some nice shots of that as well |
| 10482s | and uh with that yeah send it back to |
| 10484s | the desk |
| 10489s | [Music] |
| 10494s | foreign |
| 10499s | [Music] |
| 10520s | [Music] |
| 10527s | thank you |
| 10528s | [Music] |
| 10547s | [Music] |
| 10553s | [Applause] |
| 10563s | kitchen sinkhole there taking the W |
| 10566s | representing w space |
| 10569s | um as they knock worm again out of |
| 10572s | Alliance tournament 19 contention uh |
| 10575s | they're our second team to that we say |
| 10576s | goodbye uh actually that's not true two |
| 10579s | teams did indeed pull out so uh these |
| 10581s | are our third and fourth teams that have |
| 10583s | gone out so no you weren't the first to |
| 10585s | grow banana I apologize you're in fact |
| 10587s | the third |
| 10588s | um but yeah kitchen sinkhole with a |
| 10590s | pretty solid Victory there it looked |
| 10593s | like it was a bit back and forth at the |
| 10594s | start we saw a nice dive in from a crow |
| 10598s | which would like we say we don't see |
| 10600s | very often and a sky breaker also a very |
| 10603s | uncommon ship uh the Basilisk why might |
| 10605s | you bring a sky breaker to uh to the |
| 10607s | line summer match |
| 10609s | so the sky Breakers I think it actually |
| 10612s | should be more common than it is I think |
| 10613s | it's a very very good shift the two |
| 10615s | points you can zap rep Bots |
| 10617s | um you can have it as a shield heavy |
| 10618s | tackler you can load up the mids you can |
| 10620s | put it armor and load up the mids with |
| 10621s | like Target painters receivables it's |
| 10623s | really really cheap value it gets and I |
| 10625s | think in this match they may have just |
| 10627s | wanted to use it as a heavy attack along |
| 10628s | the crow just ran in uh scramweb |
| 10630s | extender and just hold something down |
| 10632s | and wait for everything else to get |
| 10634s | there any Redbox it can zap in the |
| 10635s | meantime is like an added bonus but I |
| 10637s | think they might use it as like a |
| 10638s | two-point tackler |
| 10640s | and mode we saw them burning in to get |
| 10643s | that tackle and it looked like at least |
| 10645s | according to the casters that they'd |
| 10646s | overshot uh and that was called out as |
| 10649s | some some poor piloting |
| 10651s | um you know explain to me what's |
| 10652s | happening here when these team these |
| 10654s | guys are burning in and they're trying |
| 10655s | to get tackle |
| 10658s | yeah so uh sometimes the uh teams that |
| 10661s | are a little bit less experienced a |
| 10662s | little less practice will uh they'll you |
| 10665s | know overheat their micro warp drive |
| 10667s | they'll hit approach and |
| 10669s | um they'll just zoom right on past uh as |
| 10673s | their microwork Drive taking them at you |
| 10676s | know many thousand meters a second if |
| 10679s | you're in a crow you'll just zoom past |
| 10681s | and you won't stay on top of the Target |
| 10683s | that you wanted |
| 10685s | um so we did see that happen |
| 10688s | um |
| 10689s | kind of commentary that we heard from |
| 10690s | the match being that the crow is an |
| 10693s | uncommon pick it seems like more |
| 10695s | recently in the three-point slot we've |
| 10697s | seen a lot more of um kind of these tech |
| 10699s | one eboard forgets like a crucifier |
| 10703s | um what do you think of that Baza |
| 10705s | yeah I really like the crucifier but |
| 10706s | obviously not in a field comp I think in |
| 10708s | a shield comp you can't keep it alive |
| 10710s | and it doesn't do enough to justify the |
| 10711s | points but the carries for example uh |
| 10712s | molos sorry I think that's totally |
| 10714s | viable |
| 10716s | um or like immaculous Navy even |
| 10718s | something like that where you can also |
| 10719s | just get cheap mid slots and can be very |
| 10721s | valuable and depending on the comp |
| 10724s | awesome then one of the other things |
| 10726s | that we saw deployed in that match |
| 10727s | something that |
| 10729s | um it's it's still relatively new in the |
| 10731s | grand scheme of Obi-Wan line compared |
| 10733s | you know obviously it's been around for |
| 10735s | 20 years now |
| 10736s | um but especially uncommon in the |
| 10738s | tournaments is the use of the web |
| 10740s | bubbles or the wobbles |
| 10743s | um Baza talk to me about them like why |
| 10745s | would you maybe use them what are they |
| 10747s | in the first place |
| 10748s | okay so the web bubbles are like a |
| 10751s | module that you can fit to the |
| 10752s | inspectors so the inspectors for a long |
| 10754s | time |
| 10755s | um were only able to use regular warp |
| 10758s | disruption bubbles that you see spammed |
| 10759s | everywhere in nullsack |
| 10761s | um but then recently a couple years ago |
| 10762s | CCP added these web bubbles so you |
| 10764s | launch a web bubble from your |
| 10765s | interdictor and it pops out a little |
| 10768s | um charge and it webs everything around |
| 10769s | you within I think it's like 10 or 15 |
| 10771s | kilometers for 30 seconds sounds pretty |
| 10773s | cool to be honest and I think the full |
| 10775s | release people were like yeah this could |
| 10777s | be interesting this could have some uses |
| 10778s | you know you can suicide in an insects |
| 10780s | or just slide in and uh you know hope to |
| 10782s | get some webs on multiple targets at |
| 10783s | once and it lets everything else come in |
| 10785s | but I think sort of in practice it's |
| 10787s | proved a little bit less than successful |
| 10789s | because the holes it fits on aren't |
| 10791s | actually that tanky like the heretic and |
| 10792s | the flycatcher get HP bonuses but they |
| 10794s | don't hold that well under reps they're |
| 10796s | not that small and when they launch |
| 10797s | their web bubble they web themselves so |
| 10799s | they very frequently just die |
| 10803s | awesome and then um one other just |
| 10805s | interesting little tip there that I've |
| 10807s | noticed uh when I was looking through |
| 10808s | the matches for today is that um between |
| 10811s | team red and team blue it is seven to |
| 10815s | two to |
| 10816s | um to team red I believe uh so that's |
| 10819s | pretty strong uh it turns out it pays to |
| 10822s | be right |
| 10824s | um and that's uh somewhat I mean |
| 10826s | obviously this means literally nothing |
| 10828s | is just the the order they have been put |
| 10830s | in based on some marbles but I choose to |
| 10832s | believe it means something and I'm going |
| 10834s | to read heavily into that uh so |
| 10836s | referring to that looking at our next |
| 10838s | match up is the initiative versus sugar |
| 10840s | now the statistics of the colors say the |
| 10843s | initiative being in red in this upcoming |
| 10846s | match have a higher chance of winning uh |
| 10849s | moderator is this where statistics work |
| 10855s | um I would say that a couple years of |
| 10857s | stats class in college would say no that |
| 10860s | is not how they work but uh you know I'm |
| 10863s | not going to argue with the current |
| 10864s | results in all seriousness |
| 10866s | um uh initiative and sugar should be and |
| 10870s | definitely an interesting matchup |
| 10872s | initiative having lost their first match |
| 10874s | up to paper numbers earlier today |
| 10878s | um and they brought I believe a pair |
| 10881s | ofless Shacks |
| 10883s | yeah that was uh The Shack Double The |
| 10885s | Shack versus double the shack uh uh not |
| 10888s | the most common ship at that point we |
| 10890s | had been thinking and then suddenly uh |
| 10892s | we've seen a couple of double-ish |
| 10893s | outcomes |
| 10895s | um bazard you think maybe initiative are |
| 10897s | they going to bring those double the |
| 10898s | Shacks again if you're sugar are you |
| 10900s | going to try and ban to try and stop |
| 10902s | that or are you going to allow them to |
| 10904s | bring it and try and bring something to |
| 10905s | counter it |
| 10907s | I hope initiative don't bring the double |
| 10909s | or Shack I think it's |
| 10911s | it's like one and four today and the one |
| 10913s | when it did have was also against double |
| 10915s | the shack |
| 10916s | um so I hope initiative have more in the |
| 10917s | bank and that's not their only com I |
| 10919s | think just what we've seen the last |
| 10921s | couple matches has been more reliable |
| 10922s | comps I think in The Knockout phases |
| 10923s | when themes are backs against the wall |
| 10925s | they win or they're out |
| 10927s | um they're sort of feeling the pressure |
| 10928s | and they're opting to go for these easy |
| 10930s | to execute comps like the shield Rush |
| 10931s | that we've seen a couple times now |
| 10934s | yeah let's take a look at the bands for |
| 10935s | this upcoming match between the |
| 10937s | initiative and sugar so the initiative |
| 10939s | banninger the balgarh and the Blackbird |
| 10942s | uh meanwhile sugar Banning out the bar |
| 10945s | guest and the balgorn lots of based |
| 10948s | bands right now uh of course both sides |
| 10950s | Banning out the balgorns meaning that we |
| 10952s | have some trickle bands which give us |
| 10954s | the oniros and the celestis uh moderator |
| 10958s | any thoughts on the Banning here |
| 10959s | obviously Blackbird as you said last |
| 10961s | time a solid standard ban I feel like |
| 10963s | the balgorn is is kind of up there with |
| 10966s | one of those as well but what's your |
| 10967s | thoughts |
| 10969s | yeah I think you're right I think these |
| 10970s | bands are pretty based both teams |
| 10973s | realizing that they absolutely do not |
| 10975s | want to get range controlled or jammed |
| 10977s | or damped |
| 10979s | um and you know neros |
| 10981s | being kind of you know the more |
| 10983s | consistent uh I don't want to see armor |
| 10986s | uh you know not wanting to see you know |
| 10989s | balgorn obviously armor kind of only uh |
| 10992s | Bargas can be either armor or Shield so |
| 10995s | you know kind of forcing the other team |
| 10997s | out of certain different archetypes |
| 11001s | it wasn't buzzer do you have anything to |
| 11003s | to add to those thoughts there on the |
| 11004s | Bands |
| 11006s | yeah so I really like the balgorn band I |
| 11008s | think like I was saying before when it |
| 11009s | comes down to the situation where teams |
| 11011s | are sort of |
| 11012s | up against the wall and they need to do |
| 11014s | something that's perhaps easier to |
| 11015s | execute than what they've tried before I |
| 11017s | think having a battle going or coming up |
| 11019s | against a balgorn makes it a lot more |
| 11021s | difficult because I think the ranged |
| 11022s | webs that the balcon gives you that you |
| 11024s | can't quickly take off the field like |
| 11025s | you can for say a hyena can make the |
| 11027s | game just a lot easier to play for the |
| 11029s | team that's Fielding it because you've |
| 11030s | just got this or air of control you've |
| 11032s | got this zone of control of like 40 50 |
| 11034s | kilometers around that balagorn and when |
| 11037s | something gets in that range |
| 11038s | you feel like you're ahead you feel like |
| 11040s | you're pushing forward and making |
| 11041s | progress |
| 11043s | um so it's good if you don't want to see |
| 11045s | that to make their life more difficult |
| 11047s | for your opponents by getting rid of |
| 11048s | them |
| 11049s | and mod I want to I want to take you on |
| 11052s | a trip down memory lane to one of uh the |
| 11054s | old Alliance tournaments I believe one |
| 11056s | of the ones that you might have been |
| 11057s | casting and the celestis |
| 11060s | um was super popular because you could |
| 11062s | just bring anything and you could slap |
| 11064s | as many damps and everything as possible |
| 11066s | and every single match was just how many |
| 11068s | celestances can we bring since then uh |
| 11071s | they were pretty heavily nerfed in terms |
| 11073s | of tournament rules we don't see them |
| 11074s | very often yet a Celeste is Ban here |
| 11077s | thoughts on that |
| 11080s | yeah so at the time when they were used |
| 11083s | a lot more heavily |
| 11085s | um I |
| 11086s | believe that basically a lot of that was |
| 11090s | a function of the format being what it |
| 11092s | was a lot of it there used to be 12 |
| 11094s | players on an alliance tournament team |
| 11097s | which opened up uh the points to be a |
| 11099s | little bit different which is why they |
| 11100s | were good you know maybe five ten plus |
| 11103s | years back but nowadays it can be more |
| 11106s | economical to bring say a malice for |
| 11110s | Less points and some number of mids but |
| 11113s | celestis is very much like a I'm |
| 11116s | committing to an armor uh comp whereas |
| 11119s | some of the other |
| 11121s | um options can be Shield or armor |
| 11126s | cool uh so this this should sound like |
| 11128s | an interesting one and this will be our |
| 11129s | last match of the day uh so let's take a |
| 11132s | quick moment to just look back at the |
| 11133s | matches that we've seen thus far so in |
| 11136s | the the first round we saw a gunstorm |
| 11138s | federation go up against snuffed out and |
| 11140s | take that when securing themselves a |
| 11141s | spot in the main tournament also |
| 11143s | securing spots in the main tournament |
| 11145s | where Platinum sensitivity defeating |
| 11147s | banana Brave Collective defeating |
| 11149s | kitchen sinkhole the Ancients defeating |
| 11151s | warmageddon paper numbers defeating the |
| 11153s | initiative and Deepwater Hooligans uh |
| 11156s | defeating Sugar took a break we came |
| 11158s | back and then we saw Darkseid also get |
| 11161s | themselves the final spot from today in |
| 11163s | the main tournament when they beat Novak |
| 11166s | uh then we went on to the the round two |
| 11168s | matches where elimination matches if you |
| 11171s | lose these you are out you are done and |
| 11173s | we saw snuffed out Knock banana out of |
| 11175s | the tournament we saw kitchen sinkhole |
| 11178s | snatch the win off of warm again and now |
| 11181s | we're about to go into the initiative |
| 11182s | versus sugar so again this is an |
| 11185s | elimination match if the initiative can |
| 11188s | win here they can survive another day |
| 11190s | they can bring more double the chat |
| 11193s | comes after they choose |
| 11194s | if they lose they are going home and |
| 11197s | considering they've just knocked over |
| 11198s | the drunk alter trading Tower and |
| 11200s | they've left the Imperium I don't know |
| 11201s | what else they have to do so they should |
| 11203s | probably try and focus on at least |
| 11205s | getting into the tournament otherwise |
| 11206s | they're going to get a little bit bored |
| 11208s | now we can go to the arena for our final |
| 11211s | match of the day uh with Alec and |
| 11214s | Wingnut as we go for the initiative |
| 11216s | versus sugar |
| 11224s | g'day there mates welcome back to the |
| 11225s | arena and we have well a very aggressive |
| 11227s | comp versus what I look looks more like |
| 11229s | a running Adventure but I think it's a |
| 11231s | drone comp what are you thinking Alex |
| 11234s | yeah that is a Tech 2 drone comp I |
| 11237s | haven't seen this today uh we've got a |
| 11240s | triple Ishtar core with double EOS a lot |
| 11243s | of wasted points there but a lot of |
| 11245s | Firepower as well and a lot of toughness |
| 11247s | up against what looks to be a missile |
| 11250s | Rush |
| 11253s | yeah very very Rush thing |
| 11257s | but uh yeah triple ishta are we going |
| 11259s | riding today is that what's going on the |
| 11261s | people who come to the wrong place this |
| 11263s | is not a Haven guys |
| 11266s | initiative might have been confused they |
| 11269s | just thought that they were uh |
| 11271s | seeing a routing Fleet out there they're |
| 11273s | charging forward questionable decision |
| 11275s | perhaps as they're charging right into a |
| 11278s | big pile of Sentry drones with very low |
| 11280s | transversal let's see if sugar can take |
| 11282s | advantage oh they lose one of their |
| 11284s | reasons straight away but are they going |
| 11286s | to trade it for a Kieran and they do |
| 11288s | immediately go on a bunch of evil drones |
| 11290s | as well but uh |
| 11292s | yeah this is a very weird one |
| 11295s | big old ball of uh |
| 11297s | centuries at the moment |
| 11300s | and here's for the Sentry drone call is |
| 11303s | gonna |
| 11304s | really take things into a different |
| 11305s | direction right now the initiative is on |
| 11308s | top of the Centro Jones centroids do not |
| 11310s | track very well they are stationary |
| 11312s | drones they have great outfit and good |
| 11315s | range but not great tracking |
| 11318s | they're having trouble applying to |
| 11320s | anything but the Nighthawk here that |
| 11321s | said that Nighthawk is taking a |
| 11323s | tremendous amount of fire they're going |
| 11324s | to trade it for one of the thalias but |
| 11326s | if they can get that Nighthawk down |
| 11328s | that's not a bad trade |
| 11330s | interesting as well I'm looking at The |
| 11331s | Fleets moment there's an EOS of Syed |
| 11334s | karova he's running to an mjd because |
| 11335s | are they going to try the whole mjd and |
| 11337s | bounce around while your sentries engage |
| 11339s | things it looks like at the moment that |
| 11340s | is not really I absolutely should set it |
| 11343s | up oh yeah we've seen that back and I |
| 11345s | think it was like Angry games can be |
| 11348s | worse |
| 11349s | the more time they're gonna be able to |
| 11351s | buy themselves for those drones to apply |
| 11355s | uh he's burned past that and he's now |
| 11358s | hold on syad turn so I had curve over |
| 11362s | turn |
| 11364s | oh no |
| 11365s | oh no he said sorry |
| 11369s | sad sad |
| 11375s | can't stop it |
| 11377s | correct in slow motion |
| 11380s | terrible |
| 11384s | oh man he stayed okay |
| 11387s | oh wow |
| 11391s | tempting Faith there as the rest of |
| 11393s | their team falls apart while we've been |
| 11395s | watching that uh the Russian Terminator |
| 11398s | is exactly dead |
| 11401s | I'm sorry I'm just dying from trying out |
| 11403s | the coffee but it's the guy was just |
| 11405s | going in a straight line meanwhile his |
| 11406s | entire fleet is dying but man he almost |
| 11408s | made it worse |
| 11413s | they're looking to transfer his |
| 11414s | etherians orthrus here which is going to |
| 11417s | take a big pile of damage off of the |
| 11419s | field for initiative but it's not going |
| 11421s | to be enough they're going to lose |
| 11422s | lancifers Ishtar for this and they're |
| 11425s | just not able to take down these |
| 11427s | initiative ships quickly enough I think |
| 11429s | they may have lost a critical mass of |
| 11430s | damage here |
| 11432s | foreign |
| 11436s | hit points back |
| 11439s | yeah they could be so much further away |
| 11441s | with these ships but they're just a |
| 11442s | little bit too close together like |
| 11443s | you're in a drone comp you could just |
| 11445s | scatter to the four wins and just make |
| 11447s | it really hard for them to engage you at |
| 11448s | all this entries can engage at |
| 11450s | ridiculous distances |
| 11452s | fish |
| 11454s | I think however the heretic does have |
| 11457s | that Osprey Navy well tackled and he's |
| 11459s | paying for it now deep into Shields here |
| 11461s | they'll probably kill him even after |
| 11464s | this heretic goes down as the Armor gets |
| 11466s | torn away from that Osprey Navy doesn't |
| 11468s | have much of it to speak of and even |
| 11470s | less Hull it's now bleeding into that |
| 11472s | Hull nearly down in the perfect range |
| 11475s | and there he goes |
| 11477s | he was a perfect range of Sentry joint |
| 11479s | application he was being held down as |
| 11481s | well that is honestly Perfection this is |
| 11484s | a shame it happened a little late sort |
| 11486s | of really uh changed this matchup a lot |
| 11487s | earlier |
| 11489s | well now we're starting to get into |
| 11490s | pretty deep water here and you have to |
| 11492s | consider that these eoses are extremely |
| 11494s | extremely tanky there are command ships |
| 11497s | that are fully capable of applying their |
| 11499s | own damage and repairing quite a bit of |
| 11501s | an enemy Fleet it's possible it is |
| 11504s | possible they get initiative below the |
| 11506s | point where they cannot actually break |
| 11509s | the tank on these eoses if that happens |
| 11511s | sugar might be able to grind themselves |
| 11514s | out of Victory here |
| 11516s | I also like the way you described there |
| 11517s | you know very tanky able to do damage |
| 11519s | themselves that also explains the |
| 11521s | slippery on the opposing side but very |
| 11523s | similar ship in terms of ability to |
| 11525s | fight on its own basically with no |
| 11526s | support it looks like uh it is |
| 11529s | that's leftner tank has a time limit on |
| 11532s | it that ancillary Shield booster has |
| 11534s | already been running it's now quite a |
| 11536s | few uh app charges deep |
| 11540s | but it looks like they're switching off |
| 11541s | of him in favor of going for that Loki |
| 11544s | I don't give him time to reload |
| 11546s | questionable Target call here from sugar |
| 11548s | they must be unable to apply their |
| 11550s | damage in a way that they're happy with |
| 11553s | the fun thing here as well though you've |
| 11554s | got three simples you could use them to |
| 11555s | engage with yoursis you could also |
| 11557s | theoretically go to the ball of drones |
| 11559s | and just start obliterating bounce uh uh |
| 11561s | Sentry Jones it's probably not worth it |
| 11562s | but |
| 11563s | the option is actually there for this |
| 11565s | comp at this point |
| 11566s | and just I shoot the drones when the |
| 11568s | home ship is dropping that quickly the |
| 11570s | EOS not very true very very true |
| 11577s | EOS they are not able to last here maybe |
| 11580s | single rapper |
| 11583s | I was gonna question the choice of using |
| 11585s | nothing but ECM drones in all of their |
| 11586s | ships like all I can see is the ECM |
| 11588s | drones from internship but hey I can't |
| 11590s | argue with it if it worked you know |
| 11595s | and not argue with success and they're |
| 11597s | definitely having it here this EOS is |
| 11599s | taking a pounding not able to claw back |
| 11601s | the armor it does have bonus repairs but |
| 11604s | not really coming into play and looking |
| 11606s | at that local rep bar that you can see |
| 11607s | on your screen there the small sliver of |
| 11609s | purple |
| 11610s | that should be bigger for an EOS it's |
| 11613s | possible it's got a one wrapper set up |
| 11615s | it's possible that it uh and still |
| 11616s | traded a lot of low slots for damage and |
| 11619s | now it can't keep itself up |
| 11621s | my bet if that is an unseal rapper that |
| 11623s | has run out of charges but pop there he |
| 11626s | goes well done to initiative |
| 11627s | congratulations |
| 11632s | all right I'll go back to seriously what |
| 11634s | they think bye-bye |
| 11637s | [Music] |
| 11652s | rain are you in the armor Vagabond or |
| 11655s | something God |
| 11662s | [Laughter] |
| 11665s | huh |
| 11667s | okay sick you you are one of two people |
| 11671s | that couldn't listen and couldn't check |
| 11673s | bookmarks and find your own way out the |
| 11676s | route the entire route was literally |
| 11678s | bookmarked out to locsec I bookmarked it |
| 11680s | 10 minutes in advance |
| 11682s | guys stop being casual they're really |
| 11684s | bad we should not lose anybody to this |
| 11687s | warp off take the fleet work everybody |
| 11689s | work off this is a really really bad |
| 11691s | execution I'm very disappointed |
| 11698s | initiative there with uh with that when |
| 11702s | over sugar to move on into the next |
| 11704s | round of the tournament so we say |
| 11706s | goodbye to Sugar uh I guess I guess you |
| 11708s | could consider this in every like a diet |
| 11710s | 80 is it sugar-free but |
| 11713s | um that is it for them uh interesting |
| 11716s | comps obviously they went for nine men |
| 11718s | so I I assumed they maybe had a bit of |
| 11721s | an issue Fielding uh 10th maybe they |
| 11723s | didn't have a person |
| 11724s | um and props to them if that's the case |
| 11726s | we're still you know making a a match |
| 11728s | turning up with nine rather than just |
| 11730s | throwing in the flag |
| 11732s | um if it was designed to be nine then I |
| 11735s | have questions uh but one of the other |
| 11737s | things I wanted to talk about just for |
| 11739s | like educational purposes is one of the |
| 11742s | rules that we have in the United last |
| 11744s | couple of years which is uh the point |
| 11746s | inflation so that is if you bring |
| 11749s | multiple ships |
| 11750s | and then every time you bring a copy of |
| 11752s | that ship point for both of them goes up |
| 11754s | by one |
| 11756s | um so we saw their sugar brought three |
| 11758s | ishtars so I believe they go from I |
| 11761s | think it's 11 up to 14 Points each which |
| 11764s | would then be 42 points and then two |
| 11767s | eos's which would go up from 18 to 19 |
| 11768s | points each and that's 38 points and if |
| 11772s | my maths are correct I believe that's |
| 11774s | eight points lost to point inflation uh |
| 11777s | which is it could be pretty brutal Baza |
| 11779s | what do you uh what do you think about |
| 11780s | this |
| 11781s | yeah so firstly just on the nine man |
| 11784s | Fleet thing uh I mean yeah I think it's |
| 11786s | quite likely they have an issue I think |
| 11788s | generally as you said it's pretty |
| 11789s | ill-advised to build a comp with nine |
| 11791s | people so I mean yeah props them for |
| 11793s | showing up and having a go regarding |
| 11795s | Point inflation |
| 11797s | um yeah so the rule is |
| 11799s | every |
| 11801s | um copy that you fly increases the cost |
| 11804s | by one for both of them but the way I |
| 11806s | think about it this is like a PSA for |
| 11807s | everyone who's watching all the way to |
| 11809s | the end is think about it as if it's |
| 11811s | increasing the one that you're adding by |
| 11812s | two so one Ishtar is 12 points and two |
| 11816s | ishtars is 13 points right but the way I |
| 11818s | think about it is one H tar is 12 points |
| 11820s | and then that second Ishtar is 14 points |
| 11822s | and then if you add a third one that |
| 11824s | third Ishtar is effectively 16 points |
| 11826s | now do you really want to spend 16 |
| 11828s | points on Ishtar I think that's probably |
| 11830s | an ill-advised decision because a base |
| 11832s | level the game comes down to the point |
| 11834s | values right you've got 100 points to |
| 11836s | spend if you're spending them all on |
| 11837s | ships that aren't worth it |
| 11839s | um you know your comp's just not going |
| 11840s | to be as good I think there are some |
| 11843s | scenarios where it's worth to do it I |
| 11844s | think if the ship is exceptionally good |
| 11846s | value for the points that's that's a |
| 11849s | great idea for example the exec Navy six |
| 11851s | points this year seven points normally |
| 11852s | six points with the glante point |
| 11854s | reduction two of them for 14 points that |
| 11856s | sounds great they pump loads of damage |
| 11857s | they're pretty tanky they're really fast |
| 11858s | they're a really good but three of |
| 11861s | them |
| 11861s | it's a big questionable I'd generally |
| 11863s | advise against going three of anything I |
| 11865s | think |
| 11867s | thank you I feel enlightened uh thanks |
| 11870s | to uh Professor basilisk there there's |
| 11872s | an is math lecturer now that was our |
| 11874s | last match of the day the initiative |
| 11876s | taking that W and moving forward |
| 11878s | um we will be back tomorrow at 1700 for |
| 11882s | our uh our first match of tomorrow which |
| 11885s | is still going to be in uh the the first |
| 11887s | bracket I believe is winner of match |
| 11889s | nine versus winner of match 10 which if |
| 11891s | I quickly look at the schedule means |
| 11893s | that we are going to see kitchen |
| 11894s | sinkhole go up against the initiative |
| 11895s | tomorrow at 1700 make sure you join then |
| 11898s | uh so many more exciting matches we're |
| 11901s | going to see some interesting teams |
| 11903s | we're going to see test Alliance please |
| 11904s | ignore that's right they still exist and |
| 11906s | they're going to go up against barcode |
| 11907s | we're going to see Rusty hyenas a team |
| 11909s | that's come through some of the lore |
| 11910s | tournaments and always been quite |
| 11912s | interesting to watch templas calsuff |
| 11914s | looking forward to see them they've been |
| 11916s | a a bit of a dark horse for a couple of |
| 11918s | years is this their year finally in the |
| 11919s | alliance tournament uh we're going to |
| 11921s | see Exodus |
| 11922s | a story team with a great history I'm |
| 11925s | looking forward to seeing them as well |
| 11926s | so plenty of great matches tomorrow we |
| 11929s | start around 1700 make sure you tune in |
| 11931s | then thank you for watching we'll see |
| 11933s | you next time |
| 11934s | see you tomorrow |