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| 1s | now let's get going so I've introduced |
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| 4s | my co-host um let me allow me to |
| 7s | introduce myself uh my name's katti I'm |
| 9s | the CEO of funn even better with friends |
| 12s | we're a player Corporation and we're |
| 14s | home of npsi rocks you will have noticed |
| 16s | you had flyers in your Swag Bags uh |
| 18s | hopefully you've had a look at that and |
| 20s | bookmark with the Discord site and so on |
| 22s | I started Eve in |
| 24s | 2004 and I took a PVP uh basic class run |
| 28s | by agon on Leafs who's heard of AG |
| 32s | yeah there you go come on little bit |
| 34s | more now uh and I've been hooked on PVP |
| 37s | ever since um yesterday actually you |
| 39s | know pop fact here uh actually marked my |
| 42s | 7,000th day in game I've never been away |
| 45s | from game I've always been subscribed uh |
| 47s | I was disappointed that my name wasn't |
| 48s | on the list this morning God damn it and |
| 51s | I've actually been playing roughly |
| 53s | 44.3% of my life and out so interesting |
| 57s | fact again outside of my marriage um uh |
| 60s | my family and Metallica uh e I've |
| 63s | actually Eve is the longest relationship |
| 66s | I've actually had in my life um I've run |
| 69s | more than a thousand uh PBP and npsi |
| 72s | public RS and to date funn is actually |
| 75s | the only Eve partner um e partner group |
| 79s | um I'm a veteran of seven Alliance |
| 81s | tournaments uh four as line member and |
| 83s | three as Captain uh of the Ancients um |
| 86s | we were the team last year that W |
| 88s | battleships at zero and we won uh and uh |
| 91s | much to the commentators uh surprise um |
| 95s | but we also the we've got the juus honor |
| 97s | of this year um been the first uh first |
| 99s | team elimin eliminated and I lost our |
| 102s | barg in I believe it was 32 seconds um |
| 107s | so ex it was excellent piloting and I |
| 110s | I've got all the logs and it was |
| 112s | horrific um so yeah that's a little bit |
| 115s | about me um now in Eve there is a |
| 119s | powerful force and it is community um it |
| 122s | goes beyond your screen that force is |
| 124s | obviously it Community now it basic it |
| 128s | conveys a sense of togetherness |
| 130s | positivity and camaraderie U and for me |
| 134s | um it's shared experience is and it |
| 136s | transforms what is a um what could be a |
| 139s | solitary Pastime into a vibrant and |
| 142s | social Adventure um now it feel for me |
| 146s | it feels like a warm hug I give out warm |
| 148s | hugs and I like doing that I look |
| 150s | forward to fleeing up with people I look |
| 152s | forward to chatting on coms I look |
| 153s | forward to being um in Fleet with you um |
| 157s | and amidst all of the Grandeur of Eve um |
| 160s | and the complexity Community actually |
| 162s | elevates this game and |
| 166s | um that the online experience so what is |
| 170s | a |
| 171s | community I think that fairly sums it up |
| 174s | pretty well in its simplest form a |
| 177s | community is a group of people who share |
| 179s | an identity forming |
| 183s | narrative now this common bond this |
| 186s | golden thread it's what connects people |
| 188s | you can see the connections |
| 190s | coming we all share this narrative and |
| 194s | some it's something that is so important |
| 195s | to us that it defines what we are and |
| 198s | what we are in |
| 199s | game we you us however you say it we are |
| 203s | a community and we all share the same |
| 205s | narrative fingers crof it's e on 9 |
| 209s | obviously |
| 212s | oh sorry it spreadsheets in space |
| 216s | now is it |
| 219s | gone click okay sorry about that uh so |
| 223s | communities are critical uh for our |
| 225s | personal happiness and we as humans um |
| 229s | we thrive on social connection and |
| 231s | social interaction and we have um we we |
| 236s | thrive on having those meaningful ties |
| 239s | now that belonging that is created is |
| 243s | through um I mean how many people here |
| 246s | um have you met through Eve I mean you |
| 248s | all know each other I know these guys |
| 249s | that's this is the Ancients this is fun |
| 251s | ink and there's other guys I recognize |
| 253s | the t-shirts you all have your own |
| 254s | communities now how many times have you |
| 257s | laughed with a Corp an alliance mate and |
| 259s | you just stay on coms for an hour after |
| 260s | a fleet's finished hour after a mining |
| 262s | off is finished the community drives |
| 263s | everything that we do it's not just |
| 266s | pixels it is um you thrive on those |
| 268s | social act you |
| 270s | interactions and Eve becomes a more |
| 273s | Vibrant Community on the basis of having |
| 276s | an Engaged |
| 279s | community so what five words does |
| 282s | community mean to you shout |
| 284s | somehow there you go come on some moreit |
| 287s | some more didn't hear that one yeah |
| 290s | there you go |
| 293s | now here's what around 100 players said |
| 296s | on our Discord and there are some great |
| 299s | answers |
| 301s | party banter good times together new |
| 304s | Laughs new friends laughs now there were |
| 307s | also some quite I I think quite um |
| 310s | thought-provoking um word bonding |
| 313s | purpose strength achievement family |
| 316s | mental health uh these are all really |
| 318s | really absolutely critical for us um so |
| 321s | is community is it friendship for you is |
| 323s | it you know is it help is it support |
| 326s | what what does it mean to |
| 328s | you I urge you the next time you log in |
| 330s | obviously once you get back from FanFest |
| 332s | and paid off your credit cards and so on |
| 335s | um next time you log in just pause for a |
| 337s | moment and think about what you actually |
| 340s | get what you you know what you get from |
| 342s | playing |
| 344s | Eve now the Eve online community plays a |
| 349s | it's a Cru we have a crucial role in um |
| 353s | in shaping the game and making Eve a |
| 355s | truly vibrant experience a rich and |
| 358s | engaging experience also |
| 360s | what are five most important blocks that |
| 363s | form the basis of this collaboration and |
| 369s | teamwork Eve is a complex vast game we |
| 372s | all know that we've seen the cliff top |
| 375s | and hills and so on and so forth put |
| 377s | your hands up I can't see you all but |
| 379s | put your hands up if you play Eve |
| 380s | because of these friendships I know I do |
| 383s | yeah that's you know 70% I'd say |
| 385s | straight away Eve is even better with |
| 388s | friends that is the reason Reon why I |
| 390s | name that is our Corp ticket that's the |
| 392s | reason why I name the court that |
| 394s | Community allows people to collaborate |
| 397s | and work towards common objectives a |
| 399s | common that Common Thread that I |
| 400s | mentioned earlier and working with |
| 403s | others to create those greater |
| 406s | achievements um and success it gives you |
| 408s | more success than that of a solitary |
| 410s | player it aids in retention it's greater |
| 413s | satisfaction it |
| 415s | aids it aids you having greater |
| 418s | resilience |
| 422s | as I mentioned there's |
| 425s | no we we CRA social interactions uh in |
| 429s | the same region of our brains that uh |
| 432s | where we act um Where We crave food um |
| 436s | and we experience social ex exclusion um |
| 439s | in the same region of our brain where we |
| 441s | actually feel pain um so physical pain |
| 444s | um Eve is a social platform it's allows |
| 449s | the communities an able players to |
| 450s | interact with others who share the same |
| 453s | passion the same drive that we all have |
| 455s | and whether it's through engaging in |
| 458s | chat channels um you know startup |
| 460s | corporations npsi groups or you know |
| 463s | block you know uh nelc blocks or what |
| 465s | have you the community allows players to |
| 468s | exchange ideas um to develop those |
| 471s | connections and Thrive really um and it |
| 474s | makes the game more meaningful and it |
| 477s | takes you in last year I spoke at |
| 478s | FanFest it takes you be beyond your |
| 480s | comfort zone and into a region where |
| 481s | you're happy and you know you enjoy |
| 485s | something now as everyone knows uh |
| 489s | mentor mentorship and Leadership uh and |
| 491s | learning sorry um Eve online has has |
| 493s | that steep learning curve um however the |
| 495s | community itself um acts as a valuable |
| 498s | resource for mentorship um Eve |
| 501s | University um the oldest largest in-game |
| 505s | training Corp um they've trained more |
| 508s | than 25,000 new players I find that |
| 511s | incredible um look at my old cup Agony |
| 514s | On least um we actually ran the PVP |
| 517s | basic University class and we had 10,000 |
| 520s | graduates from that we've also got |
| 522s | obviously Redemption road with grey gal |
| 524s | everybody knows grey gal uh sadly we |
| 525s | don't see many fleets from her but the |
| 528s | the basic uh principle is there uh you |
| 532s | know running npsi roams and for for new |
| 534s | brat to get people hooked on PVP to get |
| 537s | people out and about and engaged in the |
| 539s | game |
| 540s | and obviously more recently on |
| 547s | ussm obviously K set up e rookies and |
| 551s | maintaining the same sort of principle |
| 553s | um new Bro orientated player driven |
| 556s | content this is what drives this game |
| 559s | these groups allow for learning they |
| 562s | offer experiences at the end of the |
| 568s | day |
| 571s | they're getting |
| 573s | better so one of the defining features |
| 576s | of Eve is it's player-driven content um |
| 579s | we all love player driven content let's |
| 581s | let's let's just break that down um the |
| 584s | actions and decisions of players in game |
| 586s | drives this game it has an impact on the |
| 588s | game's economy its narrative its |
| 590s | politics I could you could list 20 30 40 |
| 593s | 50 words about it each player has your |
| 596s | you everyone has the power to influence |
| 599s | the game |
| 600s | landscape and leave a lasting Legacy and |
| 603s | we all do we all genuinely do we drive |
| 606s | the content we drive the conflicts we |
| 608s | drive the markets we drive the |
| 610s | strategies we drive EV on line I know |
| 612s | the devs obviously have quite an |
| 614s | important part but |
| 616s | um |
| 622s | now now a sense of belonging um is |
| 625s | crucial to our life satisfaction and our |
| 628s | happiness and our mental well-being um |
| 632s | that sense of belonging adds meaning to |
| 634s | your online experience you you can't |
| 637s | take that away it's it's there joining |
| 639s | forces within a community gives players |
| 642s | uh a group to identify with a shared |
| 645s | purpose and it Fosters that sense of |
| 647s | loyalty camaraderie and so and how many |
| 651s | I know we've got a couple of FC's here |
| 653s | those those guys over here and whatnot |
| 655s | that forms part of your identity in this |
| 657s | game and you can't you can't walk away |
| 659s | away from that you cannot do it the fact |
| 662s | just any any person that has a role |
| 664s | within a team you that is your narrative |
| 667s | that is your belonging and your |
| 670s | identity so these five so the community |
| 673s | community and Eve online is essential |
| 674s | for collaboration socialization learning |
| 676s | doing and shaping the uh the game that |
| 679s | the game that we love um we wouldn't be |
| 681s | here in at FanFest hundreds of miles |
| 683s | away from home if we didn't believe in |
| 685s | this game Community creates that |
| 688s | spirited and immersive environment for |
| 691s | us now when we are not connected um |
| 696s | people feel isolated and lonely and we |
| 699s | can strengthen our resilience by |
| 702s | creating social networks and pop just I |
| 706s | was a bit resistant about talking about |
| 708s | coid and pandemics and so on and so |
| 710s | forth it's a bit you know Buzz Kill and |
| 711s | whatnot but just pop your hands up |
| 713s | really quickly if you felt isolated |
| 716s | during Co yeah that's probably I don't |
| 719s | know 40% 30% something like that dur |
| 721s | during the course of pandemic I actually |
| 723s | received numerous um like messages from |
| 726s | people sort of saying how much um The |
| 728s | Fleets that I run that we run that the |
| 730s | community runs actually means to them |
| 733s | and it helped them through quite a |
| 735s | trying time people were isolated they |
| 737s | were lonely there's no there's no |
| 739s | walking away from that I actually I |
| 741s | would urge anyone I would urge anyone |
| 744s | that is thinking about doing something |
| 747s | to just do it set up a community it |
| 748s | doesn't matter what it is you know if it |
| 750s | helps you it will help others I I I know |
| 754s | personally um one of the most rewarding |
| 758s | things I've done is set up funing you |
| 761s | know and the npsi Rocks calendar and so |
| 763s | and so on and so forth people that log |
| 765s | into our fleets and support us it blows |
| 768s | my mind that actually it's a two-way |
| 770s | thing they they love coming to The |
| 772s | Fleets I love running The Fleets it's |
| 773s | the same it' be the same for ver it' be |
| 775s | the same for the guys in bombers bar and |
| 777s | so and so |
| 778s | on |
| 780s | now this brings me nicely on to the |
| 782s | title of our presentation almost like we |
| 784s | actually had a plan now within the |
| 787s | community there is the UN and I um |
| 789s | content cre creators provide the content |
| 791s | they drive um people to log in um if we |
| 794s | didn't have content creators we wouldn't |
| 796s | have a game we sorry we would have a |
| 798s | game but we wouldn't have people logging |
| 799s | in yeah so this is where you guys come |
| 803s | in log in get in fleets go out mining go |
| 806s | out do do do what you do and enjoy it |
| 809s | and keep the community |
| 811s | vibrant the Bedrock of Eve is our social |
| 814s | experiences and real experiences with |
| 818s | real people at are at the heart of the |
| 820s | game our our community pulls us together |
| 824s | where other communities push |
| 826s | away again Eve is real community and Eve |
| 829s | online goes beyond the Strategic |
| 831s | advantages that it actually offers and |
| 834s | it transcends the virtual |
| 835s | world in the faces of challenges |
| 838s | setbacks or failure we rally together we |
| 841s | help out we help people we you know |
| 843s | offer support |
| 844s | advice you know just just look at Plex |
| 847s | for good look at Broad cost for reps |
| 848s | these are Community Driven |
| 852s | um things that um that help us it brings |
| 856s | us |
| 857s | together now as I said we're hundreds of |
| 860s | miles away from home the bonds that we |
| 862s | form within Eve um we share those |
| 865s | triumphs together and we learn from |
| 867s | those |
| 868s | failures which brings me nicely onto my |
| 870s | favorite motto of the Court fly together |
| 873s | win together um it's that's our court |
| 875s | motto through the power Community Eve |
| 877s | online becomes a platform for personal |
| 879s | development personal growth social |
| 881s | interaction you can list off hundreds of |
| 884s | things so next time you're online like I |
| 887s | said just step back and look at what you |
| 889s | get out of the community and how you |
| 891s | actually um benefit from |
| 893s | it which leads me very nicely onto our |
| 896s | little website it's the only plug I'm |
| 897s | going to do really um for the community |
| 899s | that run um we launched in 2020 uh it's |
| 903s | npsi rocks and it showcases 20 of the |
| 906s | best npsi content creators out there I |
| 908s | acknowledge that there are other content |
| 909s | creators out there if there are content |
| 911s | creators that want to get onto the |
| 912s | calendar just DM me and we can we can |
| 915s | sort it we created a centralized visible |
| 917s | and open calendar that promotes a v |
| 919s | variety of content and uh to allow |
| 922s | people to create connections and engage |
| 924s | with other |
| 926s | players and go check out the website |
| 928s | I've done a very very quick um video |
| 931s | it's like 15 seconds long a lot of |
| 932s | people that watch the at will have |
| 934s | recognized it um all my contacts will be |
| 937s | on the last slide if you want to reach |
| 938s | out just drop me a message um and I'll |
| 941s | be out the out in the bar having a drink |
| 943s | later on if you want to chat so here's a |
| 945s | quick video thanks for listening I'll be |
| 947s | passing over to Casal next sorry got |
| 950s | that wrong and um yeah enjoy this |
| 958s | video |
| 972s | there you go there's all my contacts if |
| 973s | you want to contact please do so and |
| 974s | I'll pass |
| 981s | you so is this on yeah perfect so I'm |
| 986s | cun and I'm the CEO of of e rookies and |
| 991s | my part of the presentation is building |
| 992s | the |
| 995s | community so uh this probably needs to |
| 997s | be updated |
| 1007s | now but I got my start in EV line three |
| 1010s | and a half years ago and the very first |
| 1012s | thing I did was found greel with |
| 1014s | Redemption Road and I started scouting |
| 1017s | then I joined funing |
| 1019s | and within 6 months I was fene thanks to |
| 1023s | people who threw me under the |
| 1025s | bus from there we started doing our own |
| 1028s | new Rams and then oh it was about 11 |
| 1032s | months in someone wanted me to do |
| 1033s | something with incursions that fell |
| 1035s | through and kept doing newro stuff also |
| 1039s | stream and uh do some |
| 1041s | videos but in |
| 1044s | 2021 everything |
| 1046s | changed the community decided that I'm |
| 1049s | not going to get away with not doing |
| 1051s | incursions for New Bros and it came |
| 1053s | around and we founded ookies I already |
| 1056s | started a website so um we moved on and |
| 1059s | E rookies has |
| 1061s | uh grown we now 1,700 people strong uh |
| 1066s | two and a half years later I think in |
| 1068s | real life I am a marketing SEO expert |
| 1071s | and I'm also a community manager so this |
| 1073s | kind of goes into building the |
| 1076s | community so who here |
| 1079s | is thinking about building their own |
| 1081s | Community or is in the process of |
| 1082s | building a community anyone okay perfect |
| 1086s | the very first thing you need to look at |
| 1087s | is need do we really need another newro |
| 1090s | Corp that is sitting in jetah spamming |
| 1093s | newbros probably not we got plenty of |
| 1095s | those look at the community and see what |
| 1098s | is actually out there and where you |
| 1102s | exceed because that's where the |
| 1105s | community is going to grow ookies needed |
| 1108s | something for new Bros in the incursions |
| 1110s | and later in mining and later in Ford |
| 1112s | bases and Wormhole routing so that was |
| 1116s | our secret sux finding something where |
| 1118s | we were |
| 1120s | needed so identify the untapped |
| 1123s | opportunities in the Greater Community |
| 1125s | pinpoint what's |
| 1127s | missing offer a distinctive solution to |
| 1130s | the Gap provide a compelling reason for |
| 1132s | players to join leverage your personal |
| 1135s | strengths so everyone sitting here has |
| 1138s | some sort of strength something that |
| 1139s | you're good at in the game it could be |
| 1141s | you know ship spinning and station but |
| 1144s | chances are you actually know something |
| 1146s | that you can pass on to somebody else |
| 1149s | make sure your community is about |
| 1150s | something that you're passionate about |
| 1153s | there's too many communities that were a |
| 1155s | great idea there was an Abyssal group |
| 1157s | not too long ago great idea it's kind of |
| 1161s | puttered off into nothing because they |
| 1163s | just burned out so make sure it's |
| 1165s | something that you're passionate |
| 1167s | about |
| 1169s | leadership sorry no sound effects for |
| 1173s | me establishing a Leadership Foundation |
| 1176s | this is the very first place that you're |
| 1178s | going to decide the flavor of your |
| 1181s | community your leadership style some |
| 1185s | people have kind of a uh communal |
| 1189s | leadership so there is no one point at |
| 1192s | the top making decisions everyone is |
| 1194s | making them together then you have the |
| 1197s | Democracy the community decides then you |
| 1199s | have the CEO that makes all the |
| 1201s | decisions there isn't one that is better |
| 1204s | than the other you have to decide what's |
| 1207s | good for your |
| 1210s | community surround yourself with equally |
| 1212s | passionate |
| 1213s | leaders honestly I'm passionate about |
| 1216s | what I do with newbros but my leadership |
| 1219s | underneath me is equally as passionate |
| 1222s | so when I start to burn out I can tell |
| 1224s | one of my leaders you know you need to |
| 1226s | do this for me and then can keep it |
| 1231s | going |
| 1232s | Implement contingency plans for decision |
| 1237s | makers look back at the last three years |
| 1240s | alone how many communities have |
| 1242s | absolutely |
| 1243s | imploded because the decision makers |
| 1246s | went AFK they're no longer in the game I |
| 1250s | can sit here and I could probably rattle |
| 1251s | off five right off that always always |
| 1255s | always have a contingency plan that way |
| 1257s | your community is going to thrive even |
| 1259s | if you can't be part of |
| 1262s | it regularly evaluate and reflect on |
| 1265s | leadership |
| 1266s | Effectiveness it's not static there is |
| 1269s | no one way sometimes you think that |
| 1271s | you're going to go this way with your |
| 1273s | community but your community is going to |
| 1275s | go that way roll with it be flexible |
| 1278s | don't say this is the only way there's |
| 1281s | too many communities still in Eve right |
| 1283s | now saying this is it and the community |
| 1286s | just kind of says we don't want that and |
| 1288s | they go find somebody |
| 1291s | else be part of the community yourself |
| 1294s | again let's think about some of the |
| 1296s | communities out there how many of your |
| 1298s | CEOs actually fly with you how many of |
| 1301s | them actually log |
| 1303s | in you know be part of the community if |
| 1306s | you're going to create it be there to |
| 1308s | support your people you know it's just |
| 1311s | like a CEO of a company manager of a |
| 1313s | company you want to see the people that |
| 1316s | are you know working for you and they |
| 1319s | want to see |
| 1321s | you come up with rules that are flexible |
| 1324s | and make sense this one is a huge bug |
| 1327s | bear there's a couple communities that |
| 1329s | I've tried to be part of but I wasn't |
| 1333s | willing to quite uh sit down and do um |
| 1337s | paperwork I wasn't willing to do tests |
| 1340s | and things like that so think about the |
| 1344s | rules that you're going to put out |
| 1346s | decide what atmosphere you want your |
| 1347s | community start with the minimum amount |
| 1350s | to achieve that atmosphere don't try to |
| 1353s | fix problems that don't yet |
| 1356s | exist and if a rule becomes obsolete get |
| 1359s | rid of |
| 1362s | it the problem in a lot of communities |
| 1365s | and even companies is they just try to |
| 1367s | fix things that aren't |
| 1370s | broken just don't |
| 1374s | stop scale your community as it |
| 1377s | grows this was almost a trap that I fell |
| 1379s | into when iie started not only were we |
| 1382s | doing the open Community concept we |
| 1383s | wanted to become a corporation too we |
| 1385s | wanted to become a new Bro |
| 1387s | corporation that takes a lot of work I |
| 1390s | realized that probably about three |
| 1391s | months into it that I didn't have enough |
| 1394s | of me to go around to all the different |
| 1396s | projects so I pulled it back scaled it |
| 1399s | just to the |
| 1401s | incursions and from there someone |
| 1403s | stepped and said I want to do forward |
| 1405s | bases someone else says I want to do |
| 1407s | mining and then we can go and we can |
| 1410s | grow and we can extend those tentacles |
| 1413s | out into other regions but always start |
| 1416s | small adapt an organizational structure |
| 1420s | and reinforce the community |
| 1425s | culture empowering your |
| 1428s | community there again think back to |
| 1432s | different communities been part of how |
| 1434s | many of your CEO you have to ask |
| 1435s | permission to take a fleet out or you |
| 1438s | need to ask permission to go into a |
| 1441s | different area of the |
| 1444s | game what you want to do as a leader or |
| 1448s | in your leadership group you want to |
| 1449s | empower your players we want to see new |
| 1451s | FCS to come out we want to see people |
| 1454s | trying new ideas and new |
| 1457s | things your community is your most |
| 1459s | valuable asset and you want to give them |
| 1461s | room to take ownership matter of fact it |
| 1464s | was just two nights ago I looked at our |
| 1466s | Discord and I saw one of my very |
| 1469s | reluctant FC's he actually stepped out |
| 1472s | and he pinged a PVP Fleet this was |
| 1475s | totally |
| 1476s | unexpected he did that because he felt |
| 1478s | comfortable because he knew no one was |
| 1480s | going to go and say oh you know stop you |
| 1483s | shouldn't do that you should have asked |
| 1484s | permission |
| 1485s | first he went it was a |
| 1488s | success that that made me like the proud |
| 1490s | mama |
| 1492s | bear identify your Future Leaders when |
| 1495s | you're flying with people you know who's |
| 1498s | going to be that next |
| 1500s | FC when they're picking up if you get |
| 1503s | blown up they pick up and they start |
| 1504s | calling targets or they get someone safe |
| 1507s | those are the people you want to |
| 1508s | identify and you want to start talking |
| 1510s | to and you want to start grooming and |
| 1512s | you want to get ready to give those |
| 1513s | wings because those are the people that |
| 1516s | are going to be your |
| 1517s | stars encouraging your members to take |
| 1519s | an active role in ookies we're always |
| 1523s | encouraging people to help out I have |
| 1527s | another FC |
| 1528s | and he has a pretty severe disability he |
| 1531s | never thought that he was going to be |
| 1532s | able to FC in order to move his Mouse he |
| 1535s | actually has to blow into a tube and he |
| 1537s | does a lot of voice |
| 1539s | commands today not only is he FC not |
| 1542s | only is he a leadership but he also |
| 1544s | moves all of our incursion ships from |
| 1546s | Focus to focus and he duel boxes these |
| 1549s | are all things that he never thought |
| 1551s | that he could actually |
| 1553s | do and given them the tools that they |
| 1555s | need to be |
| 1557s | successful we don't trust people because |
| 1560s | of the nature of the game we don't want |
| 1561s | to give people directors we don't want |
| 1563s | to give people um roles in Discord we |
| 1565s | don't want to give people uh other |
| 1568s | things that they could really mess up |
| 1570s | your group or Corporation with but |
| 1573s | sometimes you have to trust someone |
| 1575s | giving them the tools that they need to |
| 1576s | be successful whether it's those roles |
| 1578s | or ships or isk that's how we're going |
| 1581s | to get content into the |
| 1585s | game and IES is the |
| 1593s | proof so this is Eve rookies as of about |
| 1596s | a month ago our monthly average we did |
| 1599s | 21 incursion fleets with 32 new 32 new |
| 1603s | pilots four fob fleets with five new |
| 1606s | pilots five mining fleets with 15 new |
| 1608s | pilots and these are all Pilots that |
| 1610s | have never done an eies Fleet with us |
| 1613s | two Mission |
| 1614s | fleets four routing fleets two PVP P |
| 1618s | fleets and that ends up being about 34 |
| 1622s | fleets that we stood up with about 70 |
| 1625s | unique people coming through and that's |
| 1627s | how it's been for the last year |
| 1630s | so what you saw up here isn't the end |
| 1633s | all Beall but this is like the tldr of |
| 1636s | getting a community up and |
| 1638s | running so now we're going to figure out |
| 1641s | how to uh maintain the |
| 1647s | community |
| 1654s | cool it's my wife |
| 1656s | working uh oh the silence oh there we go |
| 1659s | now I can hear myself feeding back Hey |
| 1661s | so uh I'll talk about myself in a second |
| 1663s | but yeah we've now heard about I guess |
| 1664s | what a community is we've spoken about |
| 1666s | how a communicate how a community |
| 1670s | community uh can be developed what I'm |
| 1672s | going to talk about is uh something near |
| 1673s | and dear to my heart and that is |
| 1675s | actually I guess the enduring nature of |
| 1677s | some communities and I'll talk talk |
| 1678s | about why I'm the dude doing it in a |
| 1680s | second so who am I I'm a wormholer by |
| 1682s | the way uh I'm an Aussie I drink beer um |
| 1686s | so I thought I'd do that just spill all |
| 1688s | over the |
| 1689s | stage make a mess uh and that's that's |
| 1692s | who I am right uh so why am I talking |
| 1695s | about the enduring nature of uh |
| 1697s | communities themselves so I actually see |
| 1699s | myself as quite a young player like I |
| 1700s | haven't even been playing Eve for a |
| 1701s | decade which is probably half uh what |
| 1703s | everyone else is in um so you can seeit |
| 1705s | do I have a laser pointer yeah Sin Sin |
| 1707s | gets born here um and all of the |
| 1709s | communities I'm part of um in some sort |
| 1711s | of role existed before my character was |
| 1714s | you know kind of even out of you know |
| 1716s | the rookie system uh you can see the the |
| 1718s | little red triangles there is sort of |
| 1719s | where I got involved in those |
| 1721s | communities from uh be be it up in Red |
| 1723s | Frog uh down to uh exit strategy sort of |
| 1726s | where I'm I'm sort of known to be most |
| 1728s | of the time uh a little bit of bombers |
| 1730s | bar but we're talking you know I'm a I'm |
| 1731s | an F1 monkey in bombers bar uh I'm |
| 1733s | attending Eve down under um things like |
| 1736s | that and it's not until the stars that I |
| 1738s | get involved in some of those |
| 1739s | organizations at a leadership level so |
| 1741s | not only am I younger than the |
| 1743s | organizations but it takes me a while to |
| 1744s | get into them um definitely those that |
| 1748s | are going to be down under though Eve |
| 1749s | down under 17th of November come along |
| 1752s | yeah buddy um so I've only got a couple |
| 1755s | of slides that I'm going to talk to |
| 1756s | which will allow us to have plenty of |
| 1758s | time for questions so if you've got |
| 1759s | questions sort of rattling around your |
| 1760s | brain at the moment uh for some of the |
| 1762s | other guys get them get them primed but |
| 1764s | the first thing I want to talk about is |
| 1766s | if you do find yourself stepp up into a |
| 1768s | community that already exists in a |
| 1770s | leadership role uh the the best thing I |
| 1773s | think you can do is probably look at the |
| 1775s | the why are the people that are in that |
| 1777s | Community doing whatever it is they do |
| 1780s | if you can you know you've got your your |
| 1781s | Simon cynic you know start with why if |
| 1784s | you can kind of groundbase your |
| 1785s | organization your business your |
| 1787s | corporation your community whatever it |
| 1789s | is um from that you'll probably find |
| 1792s | that it's pretty easy to I guess get the |
| 1794s | momentum and continue it to go um |
| 1796s | there's a couple of things I've put up |
| 1797s | there there's five of them so certainly |
| 1799s | your group whatever it is will have a |
| 1801s | reputation for doing something whether |
| 1802s | that's uh gate camping or or you know |
| 1805s | hot dropping people in lowc if it's just |
| 1807s | owning some huge Empire in null or if |
| 1809s | it's evicting uh other Wormhole groups |
| 1811s | around the place or it's mining in high |
| 1813s | SEC whatever it is have it you'll have a |
| 1815s | reputation you'll be known for it and |
| 1816s | it's very very hard if you step up as a |
| 1818s | leader to try and alter that reputation |
| 1820s | particularly quickly so I would say find |
| 1822s | it embrace it go with it and if you do |
| 1824s | want to change it work on it later |
| 1826s | you'll have Affiliates whether they for |
| 1828s | enemies whether they be enemies whe |
| 1830s | whatever um getting in networking with |
| 1832s | them diplomacy and that that interaction |
| 1834s | and communication in Eve goes a whole |
| 1837s | whole way into most leadership's uh |
| 1840s | daily life so even if you're not logging |
| 1842s | in you'll probably find that Discord |
| 1844s | slack whatever is pinging all the time I |
| 1847s | can't even imagine how many messages |
| 1848s | I've probably had while I've been here |
| 1850s | uh presenting in the like time zone is |
| 1852s | important I'm an Aussie naturally if I |
| 1854s | try and force myself into another time |
| 1856s | zone uh too quickly it's not going to |
| 1858s | work particularly well whatever it is |
| 1860s | your groups do I mean I've spoken about |
| 1861s | the hot dropping or if you're rock or |
| 1862s | mining or if you're Capital produc |
| 1864s | whatever it is again it's very hard to |
| 1865s | steer the ship somewhere else too early |
| 1868s | because your your community itself |
| 1869s | exists for a reason and the last thing |
| 1871s | is the third party tools so uh it's |
| 1874s | probably um I would say widely |
| 1877s | understood but probably not widely |
| 1878s | acknowledged is how many thirdparty apps |
| 1880s | be they team speake Discord slack Mumble |
| 1883s | whatever it is you guys are |
| 1885s | communicating on um is a massive deal |
| 1887s | and trying to alter whatever it is or |
| 1888s | maybe it's tripwire or Pathfinder if |
| 1890s | you're a worm Haller um trying to alter |
| 1892s | them uh might not work and you have to |
| 1893s | kind of steadily steadily bring them in |
| 1895s | to the community so we have heard a |
| 1898s | little bit about some of the things you |
| 1899s | should do as a leader I kind of I got |
| 1902s | some inspirational you know things I |
| 1904s | just Googled like you know leadership |
| 1905s | and picture and I thought I'd bang them |
| 1907s | up I mean they look pretty um but really |
| 1909s | over here is uh is what I wanted to talk |
| 1911s | about I'm not going to dwell on them too |
| 1912s | much because I think a lot of them are I |
| 1914s | guess motherhood statements or |
| 1915s | self-explanatory but it is really |
| 1917s | important that if you're a leader of a |
| 1918s | community you do communicate with your |
| 1920s | people and not only talk like I'm doing |
| 1922s | now but also perhaps listen um sometimes |
| 1925s | you can learn a lot about your community |
| 1927s | if you just sit in coms and let your |
| 1929s | dudes talk uh and figure out what it is |
| 1931s | they want to do I think so like uh we |
| 1934s | did say gelle said you know like log on |
| 1936s | I would say yes I know there are some |
| 1937s | groups that necessarily don't have their |
| 1939s | dude or dudette that's in charge or |
| 1941s | their leadership log on but certainly it |
| 1943s | might just be show up maybe that's a |
| 1944s | better way of putting it like actually |
| 1946s | engage in your community your that goes |
| 1948s | a long way certainly delegate there are |
| 1950s | far too many leaders that should still |
| 1952s | be around in Eve that have just burnt |
| 1954s | themselves out from a lack of Delegation |
| 1955s | so it's something I'm really bad at uh |
| 1958s | quick to discipline if you've got issues |
| 1960s | growing try and try and nip them in the |
| 1962s | butt nice and early before you are um |
| 1965s | get too far and the the inverse or or or |
| 1968s | the like is to reward so if you have |
| 1971s | people that are stepping up putting the |
| 1972s | hours in um you mentioned the dude that |
| 1974s | moves all those um all the incursion |
| 1977s | Fleet fits around the place like like |
| 1979s | time is a massive resource that you no |
| 1982s | matter who you are in this game you only |
| 1983s | get 24 hours of it a day most of us have |
| 1986s | lives um sometimes I wonder if I do |
| 1988s | because I spend way too much in Eve but |
| 1990s | you know work family and all that sort |
| 1991s | of stuff is is naturally should come |
| 1993s | first and then whatever people have got |
| 1994s | left they put into this game and it is |
| 1996s | amazing to see what some of the players |
| 1998s | that aren't necessarily in leadership do |
| 1999s | so reward those individuals have a plan |
| 2001s | don't just kind of sit there probably |
| 2003s | the worst thing you can do is go into |
| 2005s | what I I would say the defense and do |
| 2006s | nothing uh have have a plan of attack |
| 2009s | like start doing stuff and you you'll |
| 2010s | find that the community grows and |
| 2012s | certainly make mistakes um the inverse I |
| 2015s | only put a few down I only want to |
| 2016s | really touch on that last one is I would |
| 2018s | really encourage you if you want to |
| 2019s | maintain a community you've taken over |
| 2021s | is uh is probably don't use it for your |
| 2023s | own gain or or steal from them you'll |
| 2024s | probably find the community will either |
| 2025s | get rid of you uh or it'll implode |
| 2027s | there's some some really good uh |
| 2029s | Rockstar news articles that are out |
| 2031s | there about you know a new leader steps |
| 2033s | up and then it's like and it's all mine |
| 2035s | yeah um that's Eve I guess |
| 2038s | uh and then if I've spoken to the |
| 2039s | leaders I guess if anyone everyone can |
| 2043s | be a leader that would be great but you |
| 2044s | need followers so I would say for those |
| 2046s | of you that are in your corpse if you |
| 2047s | want to um take away a whole bunch of |
| 2050s | stuff from this presentation and you |
| 2052s | don't necessarily want to lead and |
| 2053s | that's fine um like there's a whole |
| 2054s | bunch of stuff you can hear like |
| 2056s | interacting with the community just be |
| 2057s | on coms uh run activities events social |
| 2060s | stuff like I have I have a dude uh in my |
| 2062s | court that generates these once a month |
| 2064s | right he he actually grabs someone he |
| 2066s | interviews them he learns their Eve |
| 2068s | story learn some fun facts about them |
| 2070s | and you know and we we put them up and |
| 2071s | so everyone knows sort of where people |
| 2072s | are from like what they do their |
| 2074s | favorite things and then we've got sort |
| 2076s | of you know the leading leading pvpers |
| 2078s | each month get added to the list so you |
| 2080s | know again we've got all the countries |
| 2082s | kind of in exit strage so if you for |
| 2084s | that month have got the most kills |
| 2085s | someone puts it together gets you on |
| 2087s | there on that that terrible I think like |
| 2088s | Windows background or whatever it is um |
| 2091s | and lines it along you can see we're all |
| 2093s | like holding hands and oh it's so nice |
| 2095s | except for I don't know what's going on |
| 2096s | there it's like a leg rub |
| 2097s | um doctrines like getting in there I |
| 2100s | mean if you're an alliance tournament |
| 2101s | ship uh like sort of Team having some of |
| 2104s | that anything you can do like try to |
| 2105s | take it away from the leadership because |
| 2107s | again leaders are are particularly bad |
| 2109s | in this game at delegating so if you can |
| 2111s | do something and sort of Bring It |
| 2112s | Forward you'll find that the community |
| 2114s | will grow uh definitely have stories the |
| 2116s | amount of times um I have sat on comms |
| 2119s | probably drunk most of the time or |
| 2121s | someone else's and they're just rattling |
| 2122s | some story about something happened in |
| 2124s | this battle in 2006 or whatever and it's |
| 2127s | just like you just sit there and it's |
| 2128s | it's just amazing to be on coms with |
| 2130s | these people right and then some of them |
| 2131s | aren't even playing the game I I have a |
| 2133s | guy that that he drives a truck right |
| 2134s | he's not always able to get on the game |
| 2136s | with us but he definitely puts Discord |
| 2137s | in he we just driving this truck for |
| 2139s | many hours he's just on on Discord just |
| 2141s | listen listen to his PVP listen to his |
| 2143s | chat listen to his mine or whatever uh |
| 2145s | uh I'm very very Tech uh incompetent so |
| 2149s | I I rely on other people in the |
| 2151s | community to sort of have things like |
| 2153s | your Discord Bots or your slack or be |
| 2155s | able to get me onto other coms cuz |
| 2157s | sometimes you know you're interacting |
| 2158s | with multiple fleets and again anything |
| 2159s | that can take the burden off me trying |
| 2160s | to click my my monkey brain that doesn't |
| 2163s | know how to you know do programming or |
| 2164s | data or whatever somebody's like sing |
| 2166s | just just click this like it'll just get |
| 2167s | you in there boom good to go like uh |
| 2170s | really big thing and then the other one |
| 2171s | is you know if you want you want your |
| 2173s | community to grow and be known like um |
| 2175s | communicate right a lot of us hide |
| 2177s | behind sort of different pseudonyms |
| 2179s | online and that's great but uh if you |
| 2180s | can bring your your group forward you'll |
| 2183s | find it will'll either get a better |
| 2184s | reputation whichever way you want to go |
| 2186s | um and and certainly develop from there |
| 2188s | so that's that's my shout out to you |
| 2190s | guys if you're going to follow uh and |
| 2192s | then my last one if I'd be forgetting |
| 2194s | someone would be CCP uh I'm not going to |
| 2196s | ask them to to answer the questions and |
| 2198s | I know that some of the devs are in the |
| 2199s | room and I'm sure some will watch the |
| 2200s | recording later and probably never |
| 2202s | invite me back but |
| 2204s | um I I would say uh content creators and |
| 2207s | Eve are different to other games so uh I |
| 2210s | would say that all of the streams and |
| 2212s | and things that people watch and the |
| 2214s | YouTubes are are great and it's great |
| 2215s | that we have that Community Partners |
| 2217s | ship but I would say that there's we're |
| 2218s | probably missing a trick on are the |
| 2220s | content creators those people that do |
| 2222s | stream which absolutely in gaming terms |
| 2223s | they are but in Eve are they the people |
| 2225s | that behind the scenes are putting in |
| 2226s | the hours that actually involve The |
| 2228s | Fleets getting undocked are they the |
| 2229s | people that have the setup for the |
| 2231s | response Fleet are the people putting in |
| 2232s | the work for the alliance tournament |
| 2233s | team or or newbie groups or npsi I would |
| 2236s | say those individuals um I think you |
| 2238s | kind of mentioned it right at the start |
| 2240s | is without those people I mean Eve would |
| 2242s | absolutely exist but I'm not sure if it |
| 2243s | would flourish like it does uh so who |
| 2246s | are they and and and and how are we |
| 2248s | retaining them without having them burn |
| 2249s | out as they you know their family lives |
| 2251s | and their jobs take away from them uh |
| 2254s | and then if we aren't going to retain |
| 2255s | them because we won't retain everyone uh |
| 2257s | how are we growing new ones so how are |
| 2258s | we getting the I can't remember I was in |
| 2260s | that that presentation at the start we |
| 2261s | were talking about you know there are |
| 2262s | some you know 13 to 17 year old dudes |
| 2265s | and dudets that are are now playing Eve |
| 2266s | how are we developing them into the |
| 2268s | content creator in three years or five |
| 2270s | years I spoke at the start you know when |
| 2272s | I joined in in 2014 2015 uh I had no |
| 2274s | idea what was going on you know I was |
| 2276s | like sitting in the corner at the the |
| 2277s | player meetups and the like I was quite |
| 2278s | on comms took me about a year from |
| 2280s | creating my character to get to bombers |
| 2281s | bar and I created it for that reason |
| 2283s | like how we how are we growing these |
| 2284s | people into um what are effectively |
| 2286s | running these communities uh and then |
| 2288s | the other thing is like why are people |
| 2289s | logging in how can we get them to do |
| 2291s | that more you know how can we get these |
| 2292s | content creators to actually put in the |
| 2294s | effort to find that raw cor to Ping the |
| 2295s | kicky MOA Fleet or whatever to get them |
| 2297s | out there uh and I would just say that |
| 2299s | that's that's probably my final point |
| 2300s | right if I if I had to sum it down to |
| 2302s | one thing is people in space is good to |
| 2305s | get people in space it's generally pings |
| 2307s | that's what I've found uh and things in |
| 2308s | space is what gets the ping you know |
| 2310s | help I've been tackled or help I've got |
| 2312s | something tackled right so that is where |
| 2314s | I kind of wanted to get to uh for the |
| 2316s | presentation uh what we are going to do |
| 2318s | now Absol is open up for some questions |
| 2320s | if we've got time I don't have my watch |
| 2322s | on WE how we going great so thank |
| 2331s | you so I don't know if we have a really |
| 2333s | cool oh there we go that that' be that |
| 2335s | good look good in the background um yeah |
| 2337s | so if there are any questions please |
| 2339s | like throw your hands up um and if it's |
| 2340s | directed to one of us all of us um happy |
| 2342s | to take some of them or none of them |
| 2345s | either's a game where trust is a |
| 2348s | resource to some extent and you know |
| 2351s | what we're talking about here involves |
| 2353s | placing a lot of trust in how do you |
| 2356s | manage that element of your community |
| 2359s | with the |
| 2361s | bance yeah um so so the questions we |
| 2364s | have to repeat it for the Stream So |
| 2366s | effectively is e as a game of trust uh |
| 2369s | which can be lost or gained uh and I I |
| 2371s | guess the question is like how do you |
| 2373s | retain it or how do you accept the risk |
| 2375s | of it like what's the how you manage the |
| 2377s | yeah sure you guys want to throw it out |
| 2380s | um I think it's |
| 2383s | knowing getting to know the person and |
| 2386s | it's |
| 2387s | actually |
| 2388s | right with with funing people that fly |
| 2392s | with us as an npsi |
| 2395s | Community I do know recruitment |
| 2397s | they just join because they just fly |
| 2399s | with us it's like we have frequent |
| 2401s | flyers that I mean I've had people that |
| 2403s | said I'm never going to join a um |
| 2405s | Corporation I'm not I'm I don't want to |
| 2407s | do that eight weeks later six months |
| 2409s | later a year later in some instances |
| 2411s | they join the community they join the |
| 2413s | court and they become FC's so they then |
| 2416s | have access to certain privileged |
| 2417s | channels and so on and so forth within |
| 2419s | the within our Discord within our kind |
| 2422s | of Discord channels and whatnot that |
| 2425s | trust you |
| 2428s | you gain it or they gain it rather just |
| 2431s | through interacting with us it's you you |
| 2434s | you read the the circumstance I mean |
| 2437s | that to me it's it's about the person |
| 2439s | and the IND and the individual what what |
| 2441s | what do they bring to the table and what |
| 2442s | can we bring through the table too then |
| 2444s | that's I mean I think |
| 2446s | sh yeah so with Eve rookies uh we had |
| 2450s | the worst thing that could possibly |
| 2452s | happen to us happened within three |
| 2453s | months someone ran away with 20 bill |
| 2455s | worth of incursion ships |
| 2458s | I mean it it was pixels that's where we |
| 2461s | quickly learned that we need to separate |
| 2462s | assets and now we have things separated |
| 2465s | in a way that when someone's a JFC that |
| 2469s | they get a little bit of access and when |
| 2470s | they become a leader we hope that |
| 2473s | they're not going to run away with you |
| 2474s | know a lot more than 20 bill worth stuff |
| 2478s | but um yeah you know it's going to |
| 2480s | happen have a contingency plan you know |
| 2482s | for when the worst happens and when it |
| 2484s | does happen you're going to realize it's |
| 2485s | really not that big deal you fix it and |
| 2488s | you move on yeah and I would um I don't |
| 2491s | have as much luxury to um be as trusting |
| 2494s | uh so both uh I guess as a wormholer or |
| 2497s | dealing with people's real life cash |
| 2498s | when I run um uh eat down under right so |
| 2502s | I guess uh probably easier in real life |
| 2504s | we're governed by some pretty strict |
| 2505s | laws it's easy for me to do um so that's |
| 2508s | that's fine ingame I mean yeah |
| 2511s | I yeah it takes time takes a really long |
| 2513s | time to develop the trust um and it's |
| 2516s | it's Absol absolutely critical in the |
| 2517s | leadership circles as well and um yeah I |
| 2520s | don't actually know how I can answer |
| 2521s | that question how how do you manage it I |
| 2523s | I think you always need to have I guess |
| 2525s | a backup plan so uh I know there are |
| 2527s | many uh Corporation leaders that have |
| 2529s | you know isk in the corporate account |
| 2531s | but then they've got an alt and that all |
| 2533s | that that is you know that's their their |
| 2534s | Backup backup set of cash so you know if |
| 2536s | if they if they will lose everything in |
| 2538s | the the blink of an eye because there |
| 2539s | was a disagreement at a leadership level |
| 2540s | and someone took it all um they could |
| 2542s | replace it I know other guys and girls |
| 2543s | that don't have that and they are |
| 2546s | probably taking a risk and I guess that |
| 2548s | is that is what Eve is right like some |
| 2549s | of the things that keep people like |
| 2551s | probably you and I Vault logging in is |
| 2553s | the fact that um there is that element |
| 2554s | of risk and and chance so yeah I guess |
| 2558s | be be hyper aware of it would be what |
| 2560s | would I say yeah any other question |
| 2563s | actually yeah with if you put the checks |
| 2566s | and balances in place you |
| 2569s | will create that that security um that's |
| 2574s | you if that makes sense obviously the |
| 2577s | person you're having to trust that's |
| 2579s | them um mud sticks um we're all in a |
| 2583s | community that um it's quite although |
| 2586s | it's hundreds of thousand you know |
| 2588s | thousands of players and |
| 2590s | whatnot mud sticks and that goes with |
| 2593s | them to the next so you know every users |
| 2596s | Reddit and so on and so forth so that |
| 2598s | all you need to do is just post well |
| 2599s | this person did this that now and that's |
| 2601s | that's them that's that character B and |
| 2603s | yeah okay they're going to have to start |
| 2604s | a new charact you know so on and so |
| 2606s | forth It's |
| 2608s | yeah I mean I think that's where I would |
| 2611s | say and also if you create a community |
| 2614s | that people are proud to be part of |
| 2616s | absolutely you're going to have a lot |
| 2617s | less of that clo and Dagger thing going |
| 2619s | on Eve rookies we've been live for two |
| 2621s | and a half years 1700 people and we have |
| 2625s | banned I think five people because |
| 2627s | people enjoy being part of the community |
| 2629s | we don't do drama we don't do any of the |
| 2632s | toxicity or anything like that so people |
| 2634s | just come fly and have a good time it's |
| 2636s | really easy to promote |
| 2640s | leaders while waiting for another i' say |
| 2642s | um drama the earlier you can stop drama |
| 2645s | um the the less risk you've got with the |
| 2647s | trust problem I would say as you and I |
| 2649s | know a little bit |
| 2651s | Yeah |
| 2653s | mention issue |
| 2657s | directly would risk to |
| 2664s | set to |
| 2667s | okay so the question is a Corp versus a |
| 2669s | community |
| 2671s | so I think there is no risk in one or |
| 2675s | the other it's what your goal is in the |
| 2678s | game um e rookies could be a corporation |
| 2682s | but that takes a lot of time away from |
| 2686s | everything else you want to do uh we |
| 2688s | decided to go the open Community route |
| 2690s | because we didn't want to say oh no you |
| 2693s | can't come fly with us because you're |
| 2694s | goons or no you can't fly with us |
| 2696s | because you're a wormholer we wanted |
| 2698s | everyone to be able to participate and |
| 2700s | join and that is our goal is inclusivity |
| 2703s | so if we are a corporation then we'd |
| 2706s | really have to say no you really do have |
| 2708s | to leave that cor to come and join us so |
| 2711s | like say end a day it's what your goal |
| 2713s | and your intent is in your group so |
| 2716s | one's not any better than the other it's |
| 2718s | just your |
| 2722s | intent yeah sorry we go I'm just |
| 2725s | stabbing in the duck yeah thanks um so I |
| 2730s | guess my question is when you're |
| 2732s | creating open communities and recr |
| 2735s | people sure at the extreme you sometimes |
| 2737s | get toxic people and you have to deal |
| 2739s | that like that perhaps more common is |
| 2742s | you might end |
| 2743s | up |
| 2749s | people what's your experience with that |
| 2751s | what's your approach |
| 2753s | to so experiences with people that |
| 2756s | dominate the community uh in Eve rookies |
| 2759s | we deal with new players so usually |
| 2762s | they're very quiet and timid and we |
| 2763s | don't have a lot of that but I do know |
| 2767s | in h the npsi community we do have those |
| 2770s | type of characters oh yeah yeah it's |
| 2774s | um s I'll let |
| 2777s | you man man I don't know if he's saying |
| 2780s | I'm one of those people or if he's |
| 2782s | asking me to so I mean how do you deal |
| 2784s | with it look um Eve is fascinating God s |
| 2787s | like I'm answering politically like was |
| 2789s | fascinating because we we come from |
| 2790s | different cultures and like and also |
| 2793s | because something that is uh |
| 2795s | intrinsically involved in online gaming |
| 2797s | right we're all on somewhere on the |
| 2798s | Spectrum somewhere particularly if you |
| 2800s | play Eve and you you know like the |
| 2802s | problem is sometimes they don't know |
| 2803s | they're doing it um for sure like like |
| 2805s | you have uh particular cultures might be |
| 2808s | slightly more in your face uh other |
| 2810s | cultures might be uh slightly more uh |
| 2812s | reused and take longer to warm up how do |
| 2815s | you deal with it I think it is the |
| 2816s | responsibility of the the the senior |
| 2819s | veteran um more developed people in a |
| 2822s | community to um set the cultural |
| 2825s | patterns through coms over time so you |
| 2827s | know if you if you don't uh stuff up |
| 2830s | local with lots of words or if you do |
| 2832s | like you doing that um people naturally |
| 2834s | I guess fall in line it's like the whole |
| 2836s | like you know the monkey in the room and |
| 2838s | you bring in the other monkeys the |
| 2839s | banana gets hosed and if you don't know |
| 2840s | the one Google it be fine um but that |
| 2843s | there will come a point when eventually |
| 2844s | someone might not fit in so in uh public |
| 2847s | communities which which we all uh uh you |
| 2849s | know kind of manage run or FC in um it |
| 2852s | could be harder to do because we are |
| 2854s | supposed to be open and welcoming but |
| 2855s | absolutely in bombs bar you might get |
| 2856s | someone like that and it just takes time |
| 2858s | and eventually if they're completely not |
| 2860s | fitting in you might provide someone to |
| 2862s | provide some I guess mentoring on the |
| 2863s | side and and and I would say the worst |
| 2865s | thing you can do is try and expose them |
| 2867s | in front of everyone because people get |
| 2869s | uh quite embarrassed um anxious if they |
| 2871s | do get called out in front of their |
| 2873s | mates um and I would say the other bit |
| 2875s | is in in closed community so like my my |
| 2877s | community eventually there might come a |
| 2879s | time where someone's just not fitting in |
| 2880s | they're just not fitting with the |
| 2881s | culture uh it's up to you as a leader or |
| 2883s | person on how many guess strikes you're |
| 2885s | going to give someone but it you know |
| 2886s | there is probably not I don't want to |
| 2888s | say a month maybe not not not not a half |
| 2890s | a year goes by when I don't have to kind |
| 2892s | of bring someone into a channel and be |
| 2893s | like hey dude um just let you know we do |
| 2895s | that uh this is not particularly working |
| 2897s | out like maybe try this give them |
| 2899s | another chance and if it still doesn't |
| 2900s | work out it's just like hey I'm sorry uh |
| 2902s | I'm going to recommend you go to another |
| 2905s | C |
| 2907s | take your stuff I think it Al sorry to |
| 2909s | just cut in there um I think it also |
| 2911s | goes on feel um you get to know people |
| 2913s | and you can read a room you can see what |
| 2915s | they like and I mean just using fun Inc |
| 2919s | as an example I mean I'm counting what |
| 2921s | 12 from cour here combination of |
| 2924s | Alliance and so on and so forth we're |
| 2926s | actually a small Court we've only |
| 2927s | actually got I think it's like 75 in um |
| 2930s | in the corporation and for sort of 12 |
| 2932s | people to be here I think it's amazing |
| 2935s | on the basis of the the percentage of |
| 2938s | the Corp and that's because we've |
| 2940s | created that environment we're all |
| 2941s | like-minded people we get on uh I've |
| 2944s | known you know a couple of guys you know |
| 2946s | sort of since 2004 2005 that is a huge |
| 2950s | percentage of my life it's a huge you |
| 2952s | know um you know percentage of where |
| 2955s | we've had those shared experiences um I |
| 2958s | trust these guys uh you know it's it's |
| 2961s | just yeah and also lead how you want |
| 2966s | your community to be as I had said |
| 2968s | before on my slide um none of the |
| 2971s | leadership in ookies is really |
| 2973s | overbearing or dominating uh everyone |
| 2975s | knows when it's time to lead and knows |
| 2978s | to follow and the community is just |
| 2980s | Fallen right into place so you know we |
| 2983s | have ambassadors which are glorified |
| 2985s | moderators on our Discord and the |
| 2987s | ambassadors are very proud of this and |
| 2989s | they you know set the tone and yeah |
| 2992s | everyone just kind of does their thing |
| 2997s | is someone over here a question sorry |
| 2998s | it's very hard to |
| 3004s | see when you form aeration and you have |
| 3007s | a focus and you're look enough to |
| 3009s | recruit people into that Focus so you |
| 3012s | talk about |
| 3013s | delegation where does the boundary come |
| 3015s | in where you want people to L and enjoy |
| 3019s | game but you also might need help and |
| 3021s | support let's say Logistics or fueling |
| 3024s | structures set |
| 3026s | at what |
| 3027s | point where you say you know there are |
| 3031s | opportunities open up here for roles |
| 3033s | within the corporation but people are |
| 3036s | brave enough either to step up or youate |
| 3039s | where you're actually making a job |
| 3042s | taking away their the game what's been |
| 3045s | your experience with that type of |
| 3047s | decision management delegation yeah so |
| 3049s | the questions about delegation so um I |
| 3051s | guess to to Briefly summarize it is |
| 3054s | where is the line between um handing out |
| 3057s | delegation and taking someone's fun out |
| 3058s | of the game because they're going to |
| 3060s | expend their time and their resource |
| 3061s | doing it um versus I guess um I guess |
| 3064s | not not handing it out so they can enjoy |
| 3065s | the game is that probably a fair |
| 3072s | summary very |
| 3074s | good think brilli maybe I can tell we |
| 3078s | can as a coration yeah but then what |
| 3081s | you've done is now you an ownership on |
| 3083s | them and themselves |
| 3104s | yeah I I've got it I've got an answer |
| 3106s | ready go yeah I I I'm a huge fan of |
| 3109s | Delegation um the joke within IIs is you |
| 3113s | know I try to delegate myself out of the |
| 3115s | job it's like oh Sha's not doing |
| 3116s | anything cuz she's has everyone else |
| 3118s | doing it um I always look for people who |
| 3121s | shine and who can do the job and then I |
| 3125s | pull him to the side and I ask him if |
| 3126s | this is something we want to do also uh |
| 3129s | we have a great thing happening within |
| 3130s | the community uh people are saying you |
| 3132s | know I really want to do this can I help |
| 3134s | out that's how I got um my new U-Haul |
| 3138s | driver for the incursion focuses is he's |
| 3141s | like you know I'm not doing anything can |
| 3143s | I move the ships so um yeah just find |
| 3146s | somebody who is willing to do something |
| 3149s | and give it to them but keep checking up |
| 3151s | on them you know are you okay uh are do |
| 3154s | you need help you know because just like |
| 3157s | a real life job where your manager is |
| 3159s | delegating it out you know sometimes you |
| 3162s | this person is so fantastic you're going |
| 3164s | to give them too many jobs and they just |
| 3165s | can't handle it anymore or maybe you |
| 3168s | know you notice that they're slowing |
| 3169s | down and someone else is coming up |
| 3171s | that's going to be the star shining kind |
| 3173s | of past the torch you just have to be |
| 3174s | hyper aware of that as the leader or |
| 3177s | leadership of your |
| 3180s | group yeah so I I I want to Echo that |
| 3183s | being hyper aware so once once you do |
| 3185s | delegate and they they might naturally |
| 3186s | Bubble Up which is probably been my |
| 3188s | experience is people just sort of come |
| 3189s | up and then start gripping into things |
| 3191s | so that's that is great but you do you |
| 3193s | need to just watch them watch their |
| 3194s | activity and then yeah do do check up on |
| 3196s | them um I'm okay at it in some areas and |
| 3199s | I'm I'll tell you some bad stories in a |
| 3201s | second bombers bar is easy though we |
| 3202s | just have rols on a Discord and people |
| 3204s | can say yeah I am willing to be a |
| 3206s | Bridger and willing to be a hunter or |
| 3207s | whatever and even if they have a lack of |
| 3209s | experience someone will take them under |
| 3210s | their wing and actually there's there's |
| 3212s | quite a bit of fun I've found people |
| 3214s | actually probably play more um when |
| 3215s | they're doing those sort of roles but I |
| 3217s | guess you're talking more about the the |
| 3218s | work right like fueling structures um |
| 3221s | yeahp |
| 3234s | maybe |
| 3236s | I think |
| 3237s | what |
| 3242s | people all |
| 3247s | ofation and then they end taking on |
| 3257s | themselves no you you so you are right |
| 3260s | um like you know I think there's a |
| 3262s | there's an old prob like a man can only |
| 3264s | only carry so much or something like |
| 3266s | that or you know the old camel camel you |
| 3267s | know with the with the straw its back |
| 3268s | type thing but um you just need to be |
| 3270s | aware of it so so leaders should be |
| 3273s | aware when individuals are logging in |
| 3275s | less because they're overfocused on the |
| 3278s | the the harder harder administrative |
| 3280s | work that goes with the game or outside |
| 3282s | of the game and things like that and I |
| 3284s | would also say um people should be aware |
| 3285s | when their leader uh starts logging in |
| 3287s | less and less because some sometimes it |
| 3289s | does become overwhelming and I mean I I |
| 3291s | like to get in fleets FC fleets and and |
| 3293s | like there's nothing worse for me than |
| 3294s | Fuel and structur is handing out sip |
| 3297s | cach you know hauling in ships and all |
| 3299s | it's just hours and hours of work or or |
| 3301s | hauling loot out from an eviction I like |
| 3302s | but it doesn't need to get done um yeah |
| 3304s | I get I think you somehow you have to |
| 3306s | make the balance and I probably can't |
| 3307s | answer the question because sometimes |
| 3309s | you have more time than you know what to |
| 3310s | do with and it's great and other times |
| 3311s | you just you just don't right um yeah |
| 3313s | and that goes for everyone whether |
| 3314s | they're a leader or someone that's been |
| 3315s | delegated to yeah I think can I just tou |
| 3318s | that I think like-minded people |
| 3320s | gravitate towards like-minded people and |
| 3323s | you end I mean just using in as an |
| 3326s | example we're I mean We've joked about |
| 3328s | this in the past is that we're a Corp of |
| 3331s | FC's I mean it got actually got to the |
| 3334s | stage where you know people posting |
| 3336s | fleets and we we had more FC's than |
| 3338s | there were days of the week so your |
| 3340s | Prime EU time zone it was oh you know |
| 3343s | who's going to post the fleet then it's |
| 3344s | we we had three four people that were |
| 3346s | you know could potentially post a fleet |
| 3349s | and that that is an amazing thing |
| 3350s | because it gives you that that that |
| 3353s | flexibility to actually step back for a |
| 3355s | little bit just right I'm I'm busy I've |
| 3357s | got to focus on some real life stuff or |
| 3359s | or what have you so it then stops you |
| 3361s | from burning out I mean as I sort of |
| 3364s | said at the start of the um start of my |
| 3367s | presentation i' I've been in game best |
| 3369s | part 20 years and I've never afd um |
| 3373s | other than like moving house relocations |
| 3375s | that sort of stuff so and having that |
| 3377s | ability has allowed me um to to step |
| 3380s | back periodically and just take a take |
| 3383s | that check |
| 3386s | pretty good time for two more I would |
| 3388s | say so I don't know I'm panicking now y |
| 3391s | so that last question was about |
| 3394s | individ |
| 3401s | respons a community as a whole has |
| 3405s | overed andt itself to the point |
| 3411s | thatle MERS |
| 3414s | of |
| 3416s | mhm absolutely like I am sure there are |
| 3419s | so many of them right um e was a long |
| 3422s | long-term game there are players that uh |
| 3424s | as life creeps up on them right it um it |
| 3426s | gets harder and harder and you're right |
| 3427s | there are there are pretty veteran |
| 3429s | communities some of them even still come |
| 3431s | to FanFest but don't necessarily log in |
| 3433s | anymore right and groups of people that |
| 3435s | someone put their hand up um yeah it are |
| 3438s | there examples yes um I would love to |
| 3440s | name a few but it would probably someone |
| 3442s | on a stream somewhere would shake a fist |
| 3443s | or something at me um no no we're still |
| 3445s | relevant um but yeah I mean the answer |
| 3448s | is yes are there um I don't know if you |
| 3449s | guys want to throw examples out but um |
| 3452s | well yeah |
| 3453s | newo probably I would say 75% of the new |
| 3458s | neero corpse that come out end up |
| 3460s | burning out was precisely for that |
| 3461s | reason they have all these great ideas |
| 3463s | and they start out really strong they |
| 3465s | get the new Ros in there and then their |
| 3467s | leaders just kind of burn out because |
| 3469s | they're doing too many different |
| 3470s | activities too quickly yeah you know |
| 3472s | like I say Eve rookies almost fell into |
| 3474s | that because we wanted to do the same |
| 3477s | thing and then you know we realized that |
| 3480s | no we need to just do one thing and let |
| 3484s | it scale up naturally so yeah I I know |
| 3486s | many many |
| 3487s | communities that have done many |
| 3489s | different things that have burned out |
| 3490s | like that yeah yeah we and we saw it in |
| 3492s | the slides this morning in the data |
| 3494s | presentation with the lifespan of the |
| 3497s | different corporations corporations and |
| 3498s | whatnot how the there was growth there |
| 3500s | was depletion so on and so forth so that |
| 3502s | it's all that you're always going to |
| 3504s | have that um growth and attrition um |
| 3508s | periodically it's it's finding the |
| 3511s | individuals actually to take those |
| 3512s | responsibilities on and just lead |
| 3517s | leaders this will sound like a stupid |
| 3519s | comment it probably is a stupid comment |
| 3521s | leaders need followers but followers |
| 3522s | need leaders it's the two aren't |
| 3525s | mutually exclusive and having that |
| 3527s | ability to identify you know a sin or a |
| 3531s | kashar or a kti you know within a group |
| 3534s | and letting those people run with that |
| 3536s | and having the ability to develop from |
| 3538s | there and keep to keep the game vibrant |
| 3541s | for |
| 3542s | us yeah absolutely uh I I don't know |
| 3546s | where to go with the last one I mean you |
| 3547s | got your hand up first so it's all yours |
| 3549s | back you |
| 3560s | said don't |
| 3562s | want don't want I just want |
| 3572s | to some |
| 3574s | option we in the incursion Community |
| 3577s | there was actually uh a Brazilian group |
| 3580s | that I think that they're one of those |
| 3581s | that kind of petered out because of |
| 3583s | various reasons but they were all |
| 3585s | different corporations and they would |
| 3586s | get together they would do incursions uh |
| 3588s | a couple times a week and go off and do |
| 3590s | their thing they had a Discord you know |
| 3592s | for communication and that's really all |
| 3595s | you need is you just need to have a way |
| 3597s | to find players of the same interest and |
| 3600s | bring them in there's absolutely no |
| 3602s | reason that you have to leave your Corp |
| 3604s | um in order to operate uh a lot of open |
| 3608s | communities we have a corporation to put |
| 3610s | alts in if we're going to share assets |
| 3613s | so everyone can get into the Corp hanger |
| 3615s | and wallet and stuff like that but even |
| 3617s | at that level if you're just going to go |
| 3619s | out and do some PVP or go shoot some |
| 3622s | rocks or you know do an incursion or fob |
| 3624s | or something like that you don't need |
| 3625s | any that you just need you know that |
| 3627s | Community Hub and |
| 3630s | go and just to add to that there's |
| 3633s | consistency of approach um when I've |
| 3636s | I've run fleets sort since probably |
| 3637s | around about I'd say probably since |
| 3639s | about |
| 3640s | 2015 and it was always Tuesdays |
| 3643s | Thursdays Tuesdays Thursdays I know real |
| 3646s | life's busy at the end of the day if |
| 3648s | I've got that consistency of approach |
| 3649s | that people know that I'm going to log |
| 3651s | in another Tuesday and run a fleet |
| 3652s | people will come when I started funing |
| 3655s | back in 2018 we started off just roaming |
| 3658s | in the home of P you know home of small |
| 3659s | game PVP Syndicate best Syndicate |
| 3664s | and two or three people three or four |
| 3666s | people would log in and then that kind |
| 3668s | of swelled to three or four four or five |
| 3670s | five or six and if you get that |
| 3672s | consistency approach people will follow |
| 3674s | people will come to you |
| 3676s | it's yeah so I'd just say just do as I |
| 3679s | said in my presentation just if you want |
| 3681s | to do it come and speak to me I'll get |
| 3682s | the calendar set up you know for you so |
| 3685s | can integrate I mean you know major who |
| 3687s | massive shout out to Major by the way |
| 3688s | who's done he's done all the leg work on |
| 3690s | the C |
| 3692s | so |
| 3694s | and no pre plug and also skip at home |
| 3698s | back in Croatia uh he um they both |
| 3701s | obvious have done a fantastic job with |
| 3702s | that we can give me your details tell us |
| 3704s | a bit about the group what you do you |
| 3706s | know how you do it is it PVP you know |
| 3708s | whatever it is and I can easily you know |
| 3710s | we can easily get it set up so that we |
| 3712s | can you can integrate that data through |
| 3713s | and you will get people log in I mean |
| 3716s | our Discord has got uh about 2,000 |
| 3718s | people on uh it's not the biggest npsi |
| 3721s | group but there's a lot of visibility in |
| 3722s | it um you know and casal's Discord and |
| 3725s | you know so so on and so forth so it's |
| 3728s | and that kind of touches on you know |
| 3729s | working with other groups um Eve players |
| 3732s | you know once they get into their little |
| 3735s | corner of the universe they don't really |
| 3736s | want to talk to other players and reach |
| 3738s | out and stuff like that um networking |
| 3741s | don't think ookies got to where it was |
| 3744s | uh overnight magically it literally |
| 3746s | started out one day a week eight of us |
| 3750s | uh dual boxing stuff and incursions and |
| 3753s | all of a sudden that one Brave person |
| 3754s | showed up and then it was two brave |
| 3757s | people and pretty soon we saw the boxes |
| 3758s | going and then uh it was just that |
| 3761s | consistency of logging in then we're |
| 3763s | suddenly two days a week three days a |
| 3764s | week four days a week um the Discord |
| 3768s | growing you know we I I am always on |
| 3772s | Reddit answering people's questions and |
| 3774s | trying to direct them to what the |
| 3776s | project is uh streaming YouTube |
| 3779s | basically I am |
| 3781s | everywhere so you know I'm in other |
| 3783s | people's discords you know talking and |
| 3786s | networking and stuff like that so it |
| 3787s | just starts out with that little seed |
| 3789s | you know coming to ookie hey you know I |
| 3791s | have this group can I post something in |
| 3793s | your Discord yeah sure go ahead and then |
| 3796s | more people and it finally just branches |
| 3798s | out and becomes a thing and I mean I |
| 3801s | mean just for instance when I do when I |
| 3802s | do run fleets I always sort of say at |
| 3804s | the end of |
| 3805s | end of the fleet I would say when the |
| 3806s | next one is so people know so it's like |
| 3808s | if I'm on holiday or whatever you know |
| 3810s | so there've been quite a few instances |
| 3812s | where you know I've been away on holiday |
| 3813s | what H what what have you and then you |
| 3815s | know come to a Thursday sort of 18:30 |
| 3818s | 19:30 whatever and there's like two or |
| 3820s | three pings it's like what no Fleet |
| 3821s | tonight I'm on holiday yeah if you see |
| 3824s | what I mean so so there is it's having |
| 3827s | and there's a great calendar that where |
| 3828s | the information is so go use |
| 3831s | it yeah and and maybe if if you're |
| 3834s | struggling to find find people um from |
| 3836s | you know whatever culture Community |
| 3837s | country you're from I would I mean you |
| 3840s | you could just start with like the the |
| 3841s | eve Discord like I mean Discord is has |
| 3843s | been amazing for for Eve in the last |
| 3845s | little while so You' probably join that |
| 3846s | you know start talking in your language |
| 3848s | in your in your culture whatever it ends |
| 3850s | up being and you'll you'll find them and |
| 3851s | then I mean it is pretty easy with the |
| 3854s | the the public fleets The npsi Fleets |
| 3856s | like most groups don't mind if they |
| 3858s | friend you know or their Court mate goes |
| 3860s | off and runs a bombers bar Fleet they |
| 3861s | might mind if you then start targeting |
| 3863s | uh you know your friends that are |
| 3865s | actually out Mining and telling us where |
| 3866s | they are but if you want to hit me up on |
| 3867s | Discord we can have a chat um but that |
| 3870s | that might yeah absolutely and like if |
| 3873s | uh that might be a way you don't have to |
| 3874s | leave your corpse you'll find each other |
| 3876s | and then naturally I mean and then you |
| 3877s | could even have your own little Discord |
| 3878s | set up and you could uh sheep talk the |
| 3880s | FC you know while while he's you know FC |
| 3882s | on other coms or whatever he can do a |
| 3884s | whole bunch of stuff to keep that click |
| 3886s | going and then you could you know you |
| 3887s | could shop up to a a raptor roam or a |
| 3889s | bombers bar thing or whatever and then |
| 3891s | um I don't know I mean that's that's |
| 3892s | probably how I do it like I talk to |
| 3893s | Aussie in all sorts of groups right and |
| 3896s | there's there's it's very rare that when |
| 3897s | I drop someone in bombers bar in in autz |
| 3900s | that I don't have someone pop up in |
| 3901s | local it's like sin's here and then all |
| 3903s | of a sudden discord's you know rattling |
| 3904s | off as we're trying to kill them or |
| 3905s | their super drop on top of us or |
| 3906s | whatever so yeah I don't know if that |
| 3908s | answers the question |
| 3910s | though I I I do think we have to uh |
| 3913s | clear up and and and get the others it's |
| 3915s | actually quite flattering to have have |
| 3916s | this many questions if if you do have |
| 3918s | more questions like I imagine we're |
| 3919s | going to probably hang around a little |
| 3920s | bit after we're definitely going to be |
| 3922s | here this weekend so like one last thing |
| 3925s | before you before you all go we're doing |
| 3926s | an npsi charity raffle and brunch on |
| 3929s | Sunday morning 11 o' at laundr on La laa |
| 3933s | Vega um all proceeds to the local |
| 3936s | children's hospital in in reic um Come |
| 3939s | Along come and say hey |
| 3941s | um it's in the basement by the way don't |
| 3943s | it's we have to go if you walk in |
| 3945s | there's nobody there we're actually |
| 3946s | downstairs um loads of prizes and few |
| 3950s | surprises as well hopefully so come |
| 3952s | along um we'll probably stick around |
| 3954s | might you go to the bar get a drink all |
| 3956s | I'm going to bring my I think you like |
| 3959s | drink I'm getting close yeah absolutely |
| 3962s | so thanks very much than about Two |
| 3974s | Hosts |