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| 7s | hey everyone welcome to the stream i'm |
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| 9s | ccp convict and i'm joined here today by |
| 11s | ccp aurora |
| 12s | game designer for eve online and csp |
| 14s | psych the director of economy and |
| 16s | systems |
| 17s | and we're going to be talking to you |
| 18s | today about the factional warfare and |
| 20s | frontline system which we |
| 22s | gave you some information on yesterday |
| 23s | in a dev blog that was released we're |
| 24s | going to be going to changes on the |
| 25s | faction warfare what the frontline |
| 27s | system is the advantage system changes |
| 29s | to uh complex access and a whole bunch |
| 31s | of other things |
| 32s | um and uh ccp aurora's got a really cool |
| 35s | presentation to show you guys but first |
| 36s | of all ccp aurora |
| 39s | i understand you penned the blog that |
| 40s | went out yesterday |
| 42s | i |
| 43s | i didn't fully pen it um i penned some |
| 45s | copy of it the fingerprints are on |
| 47s | process my fingerprints are on it in |
| 48s | terms of some of the information |
| 50s | contained within so we'll be going over |
| 52s | a bunch of the stuff that you saw in |
| 54s | there but with a whole lot more details |
| 56s | hopefully |
| 57s | and we get to kind of talk about the |
| 58s | process uh that we've gone through thus |
| 61s | far |
| 62s | and where we're at and yeah hopefully |
| 64s | you guys find it interesting all right |
| 66s | no worries and ccp psych i just |
| 68s | mentioned you had some input on that as |
| 69s | well in fact i assumed the the whole |
| 72s | factional warfare uh changes the update |
| 74s | is is something that you two have both |
| 76s | been heavily working on |
| 78s | before but particularly since fan fest |
| 81s | well actually way way before fantastic |
| 84s | uh this this endeavor started i would |
| 86s | say uh earlier this year i would |
| 89s | say |
| 90s | end of january when uh when we uh were |
| 94s | given uh you know |
| 96s | what i would call the future vision of |
| 98s | eve online and we're good some pillars |
| 100s | from from management hey where do we |
| 102s | want to go with this and it was it was |
| 105s | the perfect time for us to sit down and |
| 107s | create a frame of |
| 109s | what are the things that we can fix and |
| 111s | at the same time create pillars |
| 114s | on top of which we can stand and bring |
| 116s | even more content into the game and at |
| 118s | the same time |
| 120s | so threefold |
| 122s | consolidate some of the systems that we |
| 124s | already have in the game |
| 125s | i'm saying that because |
| 127s | when uh you uh will hear cispeora talk |
| 130s | about the frontline system |
| 132s | uh |
| 133s | you know it's it's |
| 135s | it's doing a lot of things at once for |
| 137s | us uh people might only see the faction |
| 140s | warfare part of it but for us internally |
| 142s | is uh is also |
| 144s | a test something that says you know what |
| 146s | this if you obstruct the system |
| 148s | it's a hierarchy and that hierarchy if |
| 151s | it works well within action warfare |
| 154s | might work good in other places but uh i |
| 158s | will leave it at that and uh i'll let c |
| 160s | spiro talk all about the you know all |
| 163s | the good stuff before you launch into it |
| 165s | though ccp or i did want to bring one |
| 167s | thing up because this was the first |
| 169s | piece of of our most prominent piece of |
| 171s | feedback or response to yesterday's dev |
| 173s | blog is that people were asking about |
| 176s | the allegiant system that we were |
| 177s | referring to at fan fest and i don't |
| 180s | know whether it's psycho oil wants to |
| 181s | answer that but since i'm sure yes the |
| 183s | first thing on people's minds like it |
| 185s | wasn't mentioned in the dev blog is will |
| 187s | will people still be able to participate |
| 188s | in faction warfare without having to |
| 190s | leave their space friends and go and |
| 193s | join uh faction warfare militia |
| 195s | corporation specifically |
| 197s | so um |
| 199s | that was part of the discussion since |
| 201s | day one and because we find it to be a |
| 203s | major issue especially with new players |
| 205s | that uh that want to get involved in |
| 206s | fashion warfare but |
| 208s | if they're already playing with a group |
| 210s | of people they find out that oh they |
| 212s | they need to leave them behind and um we |
| 215s | we had us we have that as part of the |
| 217s | conversation from uh since day one |
| 220s | it's still part of the plan uh but it's |
| 222s | not an easy issue to to tackle we have a |
| 225s | few ideas how we can do it |
| 227s | um |
| 228s | let's say as an initial step |
| 232s | but we don't have the details on when we |
| 234s | can actually present uh the final design |
| 238s | uh hopefully we'll have more information |
| 240s | later uh like i would say |
| 243s | after summer uh but yeah it's still the |
| 245s | plan uh we want to make that happen uh |
| 247s | if it doesn't happen with the frontline |
| 249s | system |
| 250s | we will people who know way before that |
| 252s | you know when it will be will be coming |
| 254s | and probably some details on how we're |
| 256s | planning to implement it and also let |
| 259s | them give us feedback on what we should |
| 261s | probably address things that we might |
| 263s | haven't uh figured out |
| 264s | and all that but it is it is a complex |
| 267s | system because it ties into many |
| 268s | different uh |
| 270s | well to other systems and especially the |
| 272s | standing system that no one really wants |
| 274s | to |
| 275s | look into |
| 276s | it's it's a pretty complicated one which |
| 278s | is why discussions are so ongoing um |
| 281s | i mean it's really small decisions that |
| 283s | can make or break a |
| 285s | system like that so like |
| 287s | we're trying to decide like |
| 290s | if if |
| 291s | a member of your corporation you know |
| 294s | goes to caldari and you go to galenti |
| 296s | exactly how do the rules of engagement |
| 298s | work when you're both in high sac um |
| 302s | and that sort of thing it adds a lot of |
| 303s | complexity there's a lot of opinions |
| 306s | and we want to get it right so |
| 308s | conversation's still ongoing yeah it's |
| 310s | it was it's it was particularly interest |
| 312s | to me and sort of thrown into relief for |
| 314s | me personally because after fanfest i |
| 315s | was pretty hype about faction warfare as |
| 317s | well so i went and joined |
| 319s | a militia |
| 320s | corporation or a player run corporation |
| 322s | um in uh in faction warfare with my the |
| 325s | character i just usually play day to day |
| 326s | on and um |
| 328s | i realized very quickly that when the |
| 330s | next live event came around and i wanted |
| 332s | to stream it on the ccp tv channel on |
| 334s | that same character it kind of made it |
| 336s | hard to fly around the mimitar space |
| 338s | when you're a member of the kaldari |
| 339s | militia so i had to do a little bit of |
| 341s | musical chairs with some other |
| 342s | characters to free that character up and |
| 343s | put the other one in there for me it was |
| 345s | a pretty easy change but i know there |
| 346s | will be a lot of people who really want |
| 347s | to participate |
| 349s | in faction warfare as they hear more of |
| 350s | the details of what we're going to be |
| 352s | doing with it so if we can facilitate |
| 354s | that even if it's not with the initial |
| 355s | release uh that would be absolutely |
| 357s | fantastic |
| 358s | yeah there's a lot of other questions |
| 360s | kind of like the one you highlighted |
| 361s | there that's not so much the |
| 363s | can i join without leaving my |
| 364s | corporation question that's the can i |
| 366s | join while still being able to access |
| 368s | street sort of questions i guess there's |
| 370s | probably more yeah like it yeah which is |
| 371s | which is also related and also part of |
| 373s | the discussion so |
| 375s | um exactly what does it mean when you're |
| 377s | in a militia |
| 378s | and you try to enter enemy space um |
| 382s | because if you're at war and they're |
| 383s | trying to stage out of that space you |
| 385s | know there's the navy will shoot you so |
| 387s | that you can't |
| 389s | um just |
| 390s | infinitely harass them although some |
| 391s | people have figured out how to do that |
| 392s | anyway so anyway we're taking a look at |
| 394s | the whole system um and hopefully we'll |
| 396s | have news for you |
| 398s | in the next couple months all right |
| 400s | now uh sorry |
| 402s | to call out also yes we are looking at |
| 404s | uh you know true see that those are |
| 406s | playing within the fw for them and also |
| 410s | their legend system is kind of tied into |
| 412s | that like that's where it becomes |
| 414s | complicated but also becomes a |
| 416s | hopefully an elegant solution to |
| 417s | multiple problems and |
| 420s | another one which is i'm sorry my the |
| 422s | the favorite part at least for me uh the |
| 424s | tier system |
| 426s | uh |
| 427s | taking that and taking that away from |
| 429s | fashion warfare is just something that |
| 431s | i've been looking |
| 432s | a long time now so |
| 435s | yeah people ask about those things so |
| 437s | yeah we we are taking a look uh |
| 440s | sweet |
| 442s | we have more specifics yeah sorry oh no |
| 444s | i was just going to just wrap this part |
| 446s | up before we go to your presentation or |
| 447s | i was just going to just circle back |
| 448s | around to something ccp psych said |
| 450s | earlier in the piece which is he was |
| 452s | talking about the hierarchy like the the |
| 454s | things that are being developed for this |
| 455s | uh this release can also then find homes |
| 458s | and help other components of the game |
| 459s | too and i was reminded of something that |
| 461s | ccp muppet hunter said in the last csm |
| 463s | meeting when they were discussing um |
| 465s | the new player uh experience |
| 468s | uh you know the new new player |
| 470s | experience and the refactor and part of |
| 471s | the reason that has taken uh such a you |
| 474s | know has been running at ccp for such a |
| 476s | long time was not only because we needed |
| 478s | to produce the new content but also |
| 480s | develop brand new underlying tools so |
| 483s | that they could easily author |
| 485s | um |
| 486s | that scene if because if you've played |
| 488s | the new player through the new new |
| 489s | player experience it's very very |
| 491s | storyline there's lots of interesting |
| 492s | camera angles narration um and uh you |
| 495s | know things dynamically spawning into |
| 497s | the scene and all that kind of stuff and |
| 499s | the way ccp muppet hunter put that to |
| 500s | this uh |
| 502s | csm was that yes it was work on the new |
| 504s | player expansion but it was almost as to |
| 507s | use a ccp swift metaphor it was like two |
| 509s | sheep and a trench coat one of them was |
| 510s | the new player expansion which everyone |
| 513s | knows about but the other element of it |
| 514s | too of that was the creation of all |
| 517s | these supporting tools which then will |
| 520s | also hopefully lead to um |
| 522s | greatest rate of authoring and you know |
| 524s | more dynamic content in other parts of |
| 526s | the games dungeons and and so forth and |
| 528s | before anyone calls me up for using the |
| 530s | word dungeon |
| 531s | because they always do that on when |
| 533s | someone says refers to dungeons on the |
| 534s | stream dungeon is common industry |
| 536s | nomenclature for that kind of a content |
| 538s | it goes all the way back to like d and d |
| 540s | pen and paper games so |
| 542s | just because we're a space game doesn't |
| 544s | mean we don't refer to them as dungeons |
| 545s | when we're making them |
| 546s | i can back him up uh basically every |
| 548s | site that you're up to in space it's |
| 550s | called the dungeon internally yep yep |
| 552s | uh all right okay so enough about that |
| 554s | so ccp aurora you said you have like a |
| 556s | presentation that you want to like step |
| 558s | us through with a little bit more put a |
| 559s | bit more meat on the bones of from the |
| 561s | blog yesterday are you ready to go ahead |
| 563s | with that |
| 564s | yeah um yesterday i was informed that we |
| 567s | had the blog post going out and remember |
| 569s | when you agreed to that presentation so |
| 571s | uh today rapidly panic through together |
| 573s | a slideshow i hope it works for you guys |
| 576s | yeah it wasn't just to be clear when she |
| 578s | said she put it together it doesn't mean |
| 579s | this was all made from scratch it just |
| 581s | was turned from internal |
| 583s | wiki dry |
| 585s | confluenced pages into slides |
| 588s | some of it is directly copied off of our |
| 590s | internal confluence it's just selective |
| 592s | paragraphs i guess that's just an |
| 593s | indication that type of constraints |
| 596s | yeah well you're you're getting a very |
| 598s | good look internally um and some things |
| 600s | i supposed to whoops |
| 603s | all right so i i hate that the scroll |
| 605s | wheel is tied to the um to the thing so |
| 609s | um in the blog we're going to start |
| 610s | talking about first um some of the stuff |
| 612s | that you already know and this is stuff |
| 613s | that hasn't changed quite as much |
| 615s | um but i want to just go over it so that |
| 617s | we are covering things appropriately for |
| 621s | those who |
| 622s | may have not paid attention at fan fast |
| 624s | or just turning into the first time or |
| 627s | what have you |
| 628s | so the first thing that we want to talk |
| 629s | about is the |
| 632s | frontline system |
| 633s | uh so this is effectively um almost an |
| 636s | attempt to simulate a war zone where |
| 638s | uh instead of the armies being kind of |
| 641s | like evenly spread out over an infinite |
| 643s | plane as the npc |
| 645s | alliances or factions are getting |
| 646s | involved they're kind of meeting and |
| 648s | clashing in specific areas |
| 650s | and we're calling those front lines so |
| 652s | it's effectively where territory that is |
| 654s | held by one faction that is at one with |
| 656s | another faction kind of meet |
| 659s | those would be frontline systems so you |
| 661s | can see four of them in the middle there |
| 663s | are two blue and two red |
| 665s | with this |
| 666s | hex diagram we keep using this hex |
| 668s | diagram because we just kind of like it |
| 670s | it looks better than dots and lines |
| 685s | there you go no |
| 688s | maybe |
| 689s | sorry folks there we go uh |
| 692s | i'm still looking at the factional |
| 693s | warfare original slide not the |
| 695s | not the one you advance to |
| 697s | see you go to it and it gets all janky |
| 699s | and goes away again |
| 701s | don't worry friends we'll figure this |
| 702s | out |
| 707s | try this again |
| 709s | yes |
| 713s | can you see it |
| 714s | uh let me see |
| 716s | uh i'll try this again |
| 720s | okay i can see the opening slide |
| 723s | can you see the next line yes and it has |
| 725s | stayed there |
| 727s | okay all right cool um progress uh so |
| 731s | with the frontline system uh there are |
| 733s | basically just a few simple rules that |
| 735s | determine the state of a system so a |
| 737s | frontline is determined by a system |
| 739s | which is owned by one faction |
| 741s | which is adjacent to a faction that it's |
| 743s | at war with so in the center here red |
| 746s | and blue are at war |
| 748s | therefore both wherever their systems |
| 750s | touch those systems become front lines |
| 752s | beyond that the |
| 754s | next rule would be |
| 756s | a system that is not adjacent to an |
| 758s | enemy controlled system but is adjacent |
| 760s | to a front line becomes the command |
| 762s | operations |
| 763s | uh these are kind of like the slightly |
| 765s | lower pressure systems the rewards |
| 767s | aren't quite as high as in a frontline |
| 768s | system if you're running the sites |
| 770s | but there's still quite a few sites to |
| 772s | be run |
| 773s | and they'll turn over a little bit |
| 774s | slower than the frontline system so i'll |
| 776s | talk about tempo in a bit later |
| 780s | and then last but not least is the rear |
| 782s | guard system or actually last but at |
| 783s | least |
| 784s | rearguard systems are ones that are kind |
| 786s | of inactive in the war zone uh there are |
| 789s | a few sites in them which can slowly be |
| 791s | pushed but they're effectively without |
| 792s | rewards at the moment uh so if you do a |
| 795s | concerted effort and you keep pushing |
| 796s | them for some time eventually you can |
| 798s | open up a new front line somewhere but |
| 801s | it's going to be a little bit tricky |
| 802s | and it will take quite a bit of |
| 804s | concerted effort in order to do so so |
| 806s | it's generally better to attack from the |
| 809s | command operations or frontline systems |
| 811s | if you're looking to actually try and |
| 813s | make progress in the war zone |
| 815s | the |
| 816s | frontline systems we're looking at |
| 818s | adding brand new sites |
| 820s | that will spawn very specifically in |
| 821s | those |
| 823s | as well as new sites that will spawn in |
| 825s | the command operations systems uh well |
| 828s | we're looking at refreshing the sites |
| 830s | pretty much everywhere |
| 832s | uh |
| 834s | the frontline systems |
| 835s | because they'll have more sites |
| 838s | they'll be a little bit faster to push |
| 840s | over |
| 841s | so the turnover rate will be a little |
| 842s | bit faster |
| 843s | uh so the fastest possible system if |
| 846s | like your faction was pushing 100 would |
| 848s | be a frontline system then it would be |
| 850s | command operations then it would be very |
| 851s | good before you go on cruel nightmares |
| 853s | and twitch chat uh what dictates opening |
| 856s | a new front line would that just be |
| 857s | simply you put your eggs into one of |
| 859s | their rear guards and when it flips to |
| 861s | you now it's a front line because it's |
| 862s | adjacent to one of their systems |
| 864s | correct so if you flip a system to your |
| 867s | faction and it's all of a sudden |
| 869s | adjacent to another uh |
| 871s | enemy control system it would become a |
| 873s | front line and any system adjacent to it |
| 875s | would become a front line so there's a |
| 876s | few really interesting spots on the map |
| 878s | where there's particular systems that |
| 880s | have like six connections coming off of |
| 882s | them and all of a sudden you could open |
| 884s | up like a big wound in the war zone and |
| 886s | hit a lot of things at once |
| 888s | but this is coming without reward so it |
| 890s | generally needs to be something that's |
| 892s | done for |
| 893s | some sort of future effort |
| 895s | perhaps if there's an objective out in |
| 897s | that region of space that you think is |
| 899s | going to pop up and you want to kind of |
| 901s | make a |
| 902s | sneaky |
| 903s | attack through the back lines and kind |
| 905s | of push a different angle you can |
| 907s | certainly try to do that |
| 909s | as well as maintaining the the current |
| 911s | fronts |
| 912s | so i just want to give you a look at |
| 914s | what the what we're kind of looking at |
| 916s | in terms of |
| 918s | ui |
| 919s | first off so this is a look at an |
| 921s | example that we have currently running |
| 923s | on one of our development instances of |
| 926s | kind of playing with the map so these |
| 928s | systems as they're laid out here are not |
| 931s | normally laid out this way |
| 933s | this is more of a dotland style map and |
| 935s | we're hoping to make |
| 937s | tactical maps that are more useful more |
| 939s | readily available in game so that you |
| 941s | don't have to open up third parties uh i |
| 943s | think that would be |
| 944s | pretty nice thatland does a great job |
| 946s | but we |
| 948s | can do better |
| 949s | uh so in this map you can very clearly |
| 951s | see how we're like the the brighter |
| 953s | systems are the ones that are hotter |
| 954s | those are the front lines the |
| 956s | the middling ones would be command |
| 958s | operations and then rearguard beyond |
| 959s | this |
| 962s | and then here's kind of uh another view |
| 964s | of this this is the |
| 967s | just an overview of the |
| 970s | sorry |
| 971s | this was a prototype that was the word |
| 973s | that i was looking for a prototype of |
| 975s | the faction warfare window that we were |
| 978s | kind of looking at |
| 979s | uh some of the stuff on the sides does |
| 981s | not necessarily settled in but you can |
| 983s | kind of see what the faction warfare |
| 984s | window might look like in the future |
| 986s | instead of just being a field of |
| 988s | unconnected dots with no labels which is |
| 990s | not particularly useful |
| 992s | hopefully we can make it something |
| 993s | really interesting and tactical |
| 999s | so |
| 1000s | um i want to talk about the part that |
| 1002s | really |
| 1003s | excites me uh which is kind of |
| 1006s | refreshing the |
| 1007s | complexes that we currently have in |
| 1010s | those sec |
| 1012s | so |
| 1013s | there was a couple key points um i meant |
| 1015s | to animate these slides so that i didn't |
| 1017s | give all of the text but i totally |
| 1019s | forgot to do that |
| 1020s | uh there's a couple key points that we |
| 1022s | really want to tackle here |
| 1024s | we want to expand the number of viable |
| 1026s | low-cost ships so |
| 1028s | a few months back i had actually looked |
| 1030s | at the |
| 1032s | statistics for ship use in the war zone |
| 1034s | and it was |
| 1036s | pretty stark um there were |
| 1040s | hundreds |
| 1041s | thousands of tech one frigates |
| 1044s | uh there was hundreds of |
| 1046s | navy faction frigates |
| 1048s | and then there was like a bunch of worms |
| 1050s | and very little beyond that |
| 1052s | so |
| 1053s | i mean it's pretty clear that people |
| 1056s | well there's two things going on one |
| 1058s | people who actually care about pushing |
| 1060s | systems over are going to use small |
| 1062s | ships because the small and the novice |
| 1063s | faction |
| 1065s | complexes are the most efficient way to |
| 1066s | do that with kind of the least risk so |
| 1069s | because they have the same point value |
| 1070s | currently as every other complex it's |
| 1072s | just better off to do that |
| 1074s | um and then the other reason is that a |
| 1076s | lot of you are just really poor |
| 1078s | so |
| 1078s | uh |
| 1079s | giving you more options to kind of on |
| 1081s | the low end of isk is kind of a really |
| 1083s | nice way to give you |
| 1085s | uh new opportunities um hopefully in the |
| 1088s | war zone to kind of do new and |
| 1090s | interesting things |
| 1092s | also |
| 1093s | it's just really good to mix things up |
| 1094s | every now and then there's not really |
| 1096s | any |
| 1097s | any reason that we can't swap in and out |
| 1099s | new complexes almost seasonally |
| 1102s | um so if one's not working or people are |
| 1104s | uninterested it's gotten really stale we |
| 1106s | can just remove it and put something new |
| 1108s | and hopefully more interesting in its |
| 1110s | place |
| 1112s | the other thing that we wanted to do was |
| 1113s | increase value for navy ships |
| 1116s | and |
| 1117s | by extension for a faction lp |
| 1121s | by giving them a very specific type of |
| 1123s | complex whether those are the best ship |
| 1125s | we can hope to see quite a bit more of |
| 1127s | them in the war zone |
| 1128s | because it's a little bit odd that the |
| 1130s | navy ships that are kind of like the |
| 1133s | really shiny thing that you get from the |
| 1134s | lp stores i know that mostly it's used |
| 1137s | for data course it also feels really |
| 1139s | good kind of thematically i guess when |
| 1141s | you're talking about the actual empire |
| 1143s | navies fighting each other to have navy |
| 1145s | ships in there |
| 1146s | yeah absolutely |
| 1148s | um so hopefully by giving them complexes |
| 1150s | where they're uh some of the the apec |
| 1153s | ships the most used ones they'll see a |
| 1155s | little bit more use |
| 1156s | uh and i'm also looking at giving them a |
| 1158s | little bit of balance love as well um |
| 1160s | mostly just small tweaks uh but some of |
| 1162s | the ships really need it character navy |
| 1164s | issues pretty bad |
| 1166s | and i love those people who use it but |
| 1168s | it's usually mean |
| 1171s | the other thing that we're looking at |
| 1172s | was hoping to bring more people together |
| 1174s | on the front lines so right now and this |
| 1176s | kind of relates back to manufacturing |
| 1177s | warfare experiences |
| 1179s | if you go into faction warfare and |
| 1181s | you've got a few militia members in the |
| 1183s | system |
| 1184s | like you really want to work together |
| 1187s | um but what happens is you know you |
| 1189s | might get a message in local being like |
| 1190s | get out of my sight you're hurting my |
| 1192s | rewards |
| 1193s | uh and that's a very awkward thing to |
| 1195s | have happen so we're looking at making |
| 1198s | the reward scale at least a small bit so |
| 1200s | that if you and another person in your |
| 1202s | militia wind up in a site then |
| 1205s | they'll there won't be any incentive to |
| 1207s | like tell them to get lost |
| 1209s | uh so by creating scaling rewards we can |
| 1212s | hopefully let small groups somewhat |
| 1213s | naturally join or small groups that are |
| 1215s | already formed just kind of go and take |
| 1218s | advantage of some of those complexes |
| 1220s | it's not going to be huge scaling we're |
| 1221s | looking at about five per site |
| 1223s | but even that should be hopefully a |
| 1225s | little bit helpful with the first |
| 1226s | example that i gave |
| 1229s | and then the last one on this list was |
| 1231s | making larger ships more impactful in |
| 1232s | system contests so |
| 1235s | uh one of the things that i had |
| 1236s | mentioned before was that novices and |
| 1237s | smalls have the same point values like a |
| 1239s | large or an open so we can actually |
| 1241s | change the way that those uh victory |
| 1243s | points are spread out this isn't any |
| 1245s | point that goes to you as a player so |
| 1246s | that they're still like more valuable |
| 1249s | but they'll also be more valuable in |
| 1251s | terms of system control so it adds a |
| 1253s | little bit of extra impetus to people to |
| 1255s | like maybe bring out some of the larger |
| 1257s | more expensive higher risk ships |
| 1260s | if you're actually competing for an |
| 1261s | objective to capture a system and |
| 1263s | eventually you know perhaps win a bigger |
| 1265s | reward package at the end |
| 1269s | this created a new problem however |
| 1271s | which was |
| 1272s | you saw a little bit of mentioned in the |
| 1274s | blog as well which is how do you |
| 1277s | name these things |
| 1278s | so |
| 1280s | i came up with a bunch of of complexes |
| 1282s | oh my god these would be cool |
| 1284s | but then i started looking at like how |
| 1286s | do you communicate exactly what the |
| 1288s | expectations are if you're warping |
| 1289s | around and like |
| 1291s | there's 30 sites and half of them have |
| 1293s | unique names it would be really hard to |
| 1295s | know exactly what you're going into |
| 1297s | um so you don't want to get a situation |
| 1299s | where like you're looking at uh at your |
| 1301s | overview and it's small skirmish melee |
| 1304s | novice beginner medium conflict battle |
| 1305s | clash large brawl fisticuffs open et |
| 1307s | cetera it's like just a ridiculous list |
| 1309s | of names we need to make it something |
| 1311s | that's understandable |
| 1313s | um |
| 1314s | there's also the option of going a |
| 1316s | different way like where you could like |
| 1317s | right click the beacon and go to it and |
| 1319s | say like ah what are the ship |
| 1321s | restrictions then you could scroll |
| 1322s | through that and be like whoops |
| 1324s | um i actually hit the scroll wheel as i |
| 1327s | said scroll uh you could scroll through |
| 1329s | that and say uh ah they're okay my ship |
| 1332s | is allowed in this one and then you |
| 1334s | could work in but that's a very slow |
| 1335s | process |
| 1336s | and as most of you know when you're |
| 1337s | warping around in the sac you have maybe |
| 1339s | a few seconds |
| 1340s | if you're paying attention to get off |
| 1342s | the grid before that uh loki webs you or |
| 1345s | whatever |
| 1346s | so |
| 1347s | we need it to be a little bit snappier |
| 1348s | than that um although that would still |
| 1350s | be a really nice upgrade and it's |
| 1351s | totally something i'm looking at |
| 1353s | uh and then we needed the name if we're |
| 1356s | using a name to fit in the overview if |
| 1358s | we made the name super long it would |
| 1359s | annoy all of you because you don't have |
| 1361s | to stretch your overview in order to see |
| 1362s | it and then put your overview back and |
| 1364s | so we don't want to do that |
| 1367s | and so we came up with that naming |
| 1368s | schema that you saw on the blog which is |
| 1371s | kind of taking |
| 1372s | the key elements kind of is building |
| 1374s | blocks in the name in order to tell you |
| 1376s | exactly what to expect in the site |
| 1378s | hopefully |
| 1379s | in a very small easy to digest snapchat |
| 1383s | so some of this is still the same |
| 1385s | we're sticking with the |
| 1386s | novice small medium large open |
| 1389s | uh set |
| 1391s | but we're just adding a little bit to it |
| 1393s | so instead of it just being like a |
| 1395s | medium you might see a medium navy five |
| 1398s | so navy indicating it allows navy into |
| 1401s | one ships um kind of relating back to |
| 1403s | those earlier goals i talked about in |
| 1404s | terms of |
| 1406s | all the reasons that we're looking at |
| 1407s | creating some navy ship specific sites |
| 1410s | uh |
| 1412s | and yeah |
| 1414s | uh and then a number so that would be |
| 1416s | the number that it would scale to so |
| 1418s | that kind of gives you an idea of the |
| 1420s | number of people that the site is geared |
| 1421s | towards so if you see a five it would |
| 1424s | take you know about three to five people |
| 1425s | to push off the rats and your average |
| 1427s | ship for that content |
| 1430s | in order to |
| 1431s | actually capture the site |
| 1436s | and these are the the components of |
| 1437s | those names so just a this wasn't in the |
| 1440s | blog so something to be a little bit |
| 1441s | more specific |
| 1443s | now the small medium large those are |
| 1444s | things that you already know open is |
| 1446s | left out on this list because i forgot |
| 1448s | it if you see navy that indicates that |
| 1450s | it is t1 or navy ships um it doesn't |
| 1452s | include pirate faction t2 or t3 |
| 1456s | and that applies all the way down the |
| 1457s | chain so if you have a medium navy then |
| 1460s | you can't bring a worm |
| 1461s | into the medium complex |
| 1464s | uh triglavian and edencom count as |
| 1466s | pirate faction for this purpose because |
| 1469s | it's relatively where they sit scale |
| 1471s | wise it becomes a little bit weird |
| 1473s | obviously but |
| 1474s | i think in large fleets we can generally |
| 1477s | treat them as pirate fraction |
| 1480s | and then advanced is advanced these are |
| 1482s | basically the sites as they currently |
| 1483s | exist today with the exception of the |
| 1485s | novice which allow |
| 1487s | um it's it's today's restrictions which |
| 1490s | is uh t2 and pirate faction are able to |
| 1492s | go in |
| 1493s | tuck three of the next size down can't |
| 1495s | go in so for example a medium |
| 1498s | complex couldn't allow an attack through |
| 1500s | cruiser but it would allow in a tech 3 |
| 1502s | destroyer |
| 1504s | i'll ambush you there real quick i |
| 1505s | apologize apologies if this is going to |
| 1508s | be in an upcoming slide but um one of |
| 1510s | the questions which came up was uh |
| 1513s | well |
| 1514s | in in the forum thread anyway was people |
| 1515s | wondering if there's going to be any |
| 1516s | kind of implant restrictions on the |
| 1518s | acceleration gates leading into these |
| 1519s | complexes just so you still don't get |
| 1521s | like a person in a t1 frigate but |
| 1523s | they're booking around in snakes or |
| 1524s | something like that |
| 1526s | so it's something that i'd love to do um |
| 1528s | we don't have plans immediately for that |
| 1531s | and i think it's something that we might |
| 1533s | look at for next year uh if people like |
| 1536s | the new complexes and we want to take it |
| 1538s | a little bit further |
| 1539s | i think that would be really valuable i |
| 1540s | know like getting |
| 1543s | getting jumped by someone and like full |
| 1544s | of collapse is pretty stressful |
| 1548s | and it leaves you without much much way |
| 1550s | to fight back but at the moment it's a |
| 1552s | restriction that's |
| 1553s | mostly we need to think once again about |
| 1555s | how we would communicate that |
| 1557s | especially if we have different |
| 1558s | restrictions for different sites |
| 1560s | so we're going to take a little bit of |
| 1562s | time and and work longer on that before |
| 1564s | we add it into the game no worries and |
| 1566s | that sort of restriction is something |
| 1568s | that we can relatively easily do i've |
| 1569s | written stuff like that for the alliance |
| 1571s | tournament |
| 1572s | uh but it's kind of the communication |
| 1574s | and exactly what the restrictions are |
| 1575s | and that sort of thing um well we don't |
| 1577s | want to shake the boat i know he's he |
| 1579s | said you're trying to keep the naming |
| 1580s | conventions for these things concise so |
| 1582s | people know what they are at a glance |
| 1583s | and if you the more |
| 1585s | more modularity you add to it just the |
| 1586s | more complex it gets but yeah most |
| 1588s | likely it would wind up being like an |
| 1590s | across-the-board ruling um but |
| 1593s | we don't really want to do that because |
| 1594s | you know in some of like the |
| 1596s | larger sites maybe it's more okay |
| 1598s | um so there's just a lot of discussions |
| 1600s | to be had on that if people have |
| 1602s | feedback about it i'm not super happy to |
| 1603s | listen to it |
| 1604s | because it's totally something that's |
| 1605s | honor sure and you i mean you want to |
| 1607s | make spaces for you know players without |
| 1610s | much money players without any skill |
| 1611s | points so they can get involved in this |
| 1612s | but it would be a shame to put like an |
| 1614s | artificial ceiling on just how much |
| 1616s | effort people can put in in the bigger |
| 1618s | sites uh or you know the equivalent of |
| 1620s | like an open site today or something |
| 1623s | um yeah yeah let's not stifle any |
| 1625s | ambitions is what i'm what i'm saying to |
| 1628s | try and make your job harder |
| 1631s | at the moment yes at the the opens we |
| 1633s | couldn't put a restriction on |
| 1635s | meaningfully because there's no gate on |
| 1636s | those so at the very least you can be |
| 1638s | rest assured there will never be a |
| 1639s | restriction on implants in an open |
| 1641s | complex |
| 1642s | but |
| 1643s | the others will take a little bit more |
| 1646s | evaluation right and will you just it |
| 1648s | might still be coming up so again i'm |
| 1650s | sorry to preempt this but i don't want |
| 1651s | to forget about it by the time |
| 1653s | it wraps up if it's not mentioned but |
| 1654s | will we be talking or will you be |
| 1656s | talking about or can you talk about uh |
| 1658s | any changes to faction warfare emissions |
| 1660s | as a part of this |
| 1662s | uh i don't have anything specifically |
| 1664s | labeled in here um what would there will |
| 1667s | be changes to faction warfare missions |
| 1668s | coming up um this is kind of tying into |
| 1671s | the rewards and the tier system removal |
| 1674s | and that sort of thing i don't know if |
| 1676s | uh |
| 1677s | psych wants to jump in on on the reward |
| 1679s | side of this |
| 1681s | uh missions were definitely part of the |
| 1682s | discussion and we want to do a lot of |
| 1685s | things with them |
| 1687s | honestly we're not sure if they can't be |
| 1689s | part of the release that the frontlines |
| 1691s | would go out uh i i think and oracle |
| 1694s | correct me if i'm wrong i think some |
| 1695s | changes will have to happen because of |
| 1697s | what you just said because of the |
| 1698s | rewards and how we're going to scale |
| 1699s | them how we're changing and how believe |
| 1701s | we believe that missions right now |
| 1703s | they're kind of oppressive when it comes |
| 1705s | to rewards they're giving up too many |
| 1708s | too much |
| 1709s | uh we looked at the the metrics for this |
| 1712s | and the amount of of lp earned by |
| 1715s | someone running plexus compared to |
| 1716s | someone running |
| 1717s | missions is |
| 1719s | well it's comparable that says a lot |
| 1723s | but we we have a a bigger plan for for |
| 1725s | missions um i don't think we should |
| 1727s | discuss it now but uh as we as we give |
| 1730s | you more information uh |
| 1732s | now and in the future about you know how |
| 1734s | we want to create new objectives |
| 1736s | uh at that point we'll be able to |
| 1739s | provide more information on how we want |
| 1740s | to redesign the entire fw mission uh |
| 1743s | like paradigm |
| 1745s | it's |
| 1746s | i think we discussed some uh small |
| 1748s | changes kind of leading into this which |
| 1750s | would be |
| 1751s | effectively uh we would be like |
| 1753s | rebalancing the |
| 1754s | mission income i'd love to take a look |
| 1756s | at them and just kind of rework the |
| 1758s | content so that it's not something that |
| 1760s | can be running |
| 1761s | a stealth bomb really safely um but the |
| 1763s | problem is that there's like 350 |
| 1765s | something of these missions that exist |
| 1768s | and so it's actually quite a lot of |
| 1769s | content for us to work through |
| 1771s | uh |
| 1772s | we'll see |
| 1773s | most likely we're going to adjust the |
| 1774s | rewards in some way shape or form for |
| 1776s | the missions at least in the short term |
| 1778s | and then what we're talking about was |
| 1780s | actually uh |
| 1781s | it would be really cool for us to be |
| 1782s | able to make missions that |
| 1786s | integrated with the gameplay of actually |
| 1788s | like contesting systems so for example |
| 1790s | you'd get a mission that would be like |
| 1792s | ah if you can capture a plex in the next |
| 1795s | four hours |
| 1796s | that uh like a medium flex in the next |
| 1798s | four hours so you're taking on like an |
| 1800s | extra specific thing |
| 1803s | then we'll give you this extra reward on |
| 1804s | top of it which i think would be a |
| 1806s | really nice way to like generate some |
| 1808s | additional activity and some additional |
| 1810s | rewards for doing things and make it |
| 1813s | gameplay that's a little bit more |
| 1815s | desirable |
| 1816s | and puts you at more meaningful risk and |
| 1818s | i just want to say for anyone who's |
| 1819s | listening or watching i should say um |
| 1822s | who who was uh maybe feeling a bit |
| 1824s | disappointed that the allegiance system |
| 1826s | is is still like maybe not being given |
| 1828s | becoming this release or that we're sort |
| 1830s | of um being a bit um non-specific about |
| 1832s | changes to faction warfare missions i |
| 1834s | just i just want to |
| 1836s | reiterate that |
| 1837s | the release coming later this year which |
| 1839s | is contains the content that ccp aurora |
| 1841s | is going |
| 1842s | over today is just basically the first |
| 1844s | stage |
| 1845s | and there will be further iterations new |
| 1847s | content and other revisions coming over |
| 1849s | probably the next uh you know a year |
| 1850s | beyond that it would be helpful if you |
| 1852s | thought of this kind of like what we did |
| 1854s | with the with the triglavian invasion |
| 1856s | for example which went for about 18 |
| 1858s | months and started with abyssal dead |
| 1860s | space being introduced to the game and |
| 1862s | culminated in potsvan becoming a thing |
| 1865s | and all the phases that went through |
| 1867s | there then you know the uh the um eden |
| 1870s | conchips and the triglavianship line |
| 1872s | getting expanded all those were |
| 1873s | components of that and it'll be similar |
| 1874s | with this so if if there's something |
| 1877s | that you're interested in or would like |
| 1878s | to see change that doesn't happen on day |
| 1880s | one |
| 1881s | um |
| 1882s | we're not just going to go tools down |
| 1883s | and move on to the next thing this is |
| 1884s | going to be an ongoing iterative process |
| 1886s | which will occupy us for some time and |
| 1887s | hopefully will leave us with an amazing |
| 1889s | feature that um we'll give give you know |
| 1892s | uh another 10 years of interesting |
| 1894s | gameplay when it comes to flight from |
| 1895s | warfare space |
| 1896s | there's also a bunch of little things |
| 1898s | that uh like we couldn't fit into the |
| 1900s | blog um so |
| 1902s | i'm looking at kind of a few small |
| 1904s | a number of balance tweaks um |
| 1907s | both for like navy ships and also maybe |
| 1909s | oh yeah there's unions and that sort of |
| 1911s | thing like there's a lot of other little |
| 1913s | stuff that's just not getting really |
| 1915s | much much exposure at the moment and |
| 1916s | there are other things which are |
| 1917s | definitely coming that we just can't |
| 1919s | tell you about yet because it's exactly |
| 1921s | that's the other part of it yeah yeah |
| 1922s | yeah |
| 1923s | i hate giving that answer to people but |
| 1925s | it is what it is you know it's the |
| 1927s | the realities of sort of game video game |
| 1929s | development well also i will say a lot |
| 1931s | of people have been throwing questions |
| 1932s | in chat and i've tried to cherry pick |
| 1933s | one or two i won't be able to get to to |
| 1935s | all of them obviously so if you don't |
| 1937s | answer your question i do apologize i |
| 1938s | just wanted to let everyone know that |
| 1940s | next week uh there will be a q a on a |
| 1944s | live q a with ccp aurora and ccp psych |
| 1946s | on our discord channel we where |
| 1949s | uh we'll be answering questions uh |
| 1951s | mostly rather than just sort of like |
| 1952s | pitching stuff to you like we are today |
| 1954s | and i do apologize if you come from |
| 1955s | discord now the event is titled |
| 1958s | factional warfare q a that was just a |
| 1960s | bit that was a mistake today we're doing |
| 1962s | the dev blog review and this |
| 1963s | presentation and next week will be the |
| 1965s | actual q a on discord but i will still |
| 1968s | fish out questions here and there where |
| 1969s | i can but again apologies if i don't |
| 1971s | speak to all of them but i'm holding up |
| 1973s | ccp aurora so please continue with your |
| 1976s | excellent accidentally continued already |
| 1978s | so |
| 1979s | um |
| 1980s | uh for those of you who are kind of |
| 1981s | wondering like all right so what what |
| 1983s | would the distribution of these sites |
| 1985s | look like uh this might help to give you |
| 1987s | a little bit more of an idea |
| 1988s | i just had to scrape this off the |
| 1990s | internal wiki and remove a bunch of |
| 1992s | information |
| 1993s | but the |
| 1995s | this is kind of the what we're looking |
| 1996s | at in terms of the the sites that you |
| 1998s | might find in space at release |
| 2001s | this fall |
| 2002s | so that would be it's effectively liking |
| 2005s | a navy advanced a navy and advanced |
| 2008s | version of each site plus a one in five |
| 2010s | uh player version and as you go towards |
| 2012s | the front lines you'll find more of the |
| 2014s | five player versions of things uh |
| 2016s | in the front lines so if you have a |
| 2018s | small group you definitely want to go |
| 2020s | uh |
| 2021s | in that direction |
| 2022s | um |
| 2023s | and you can kind of see the the base lp |
| 2025s | costs the capture time there's a few uh |
| 2028s | small things in here you'll notice that |
| 2029s | the |
| 2030s | open and the large they don't take 20 |
| 2032s | minutes anymore that just felt too long |
| 2034s | um so there's a bunch of small things in |
| 2036s | here |
| 2037s | uh |
| 2038s | and also take a look at that base vp |
| 2041s | column so vp stands for victory points |
| 2043s | uh you can see that the currently today |
| 2046s | like everything's about 20 points |
| 2049s | um and then this is being kind of scaled |
| 2052s | differently in order to |
| 2054s | spread things out a bit |
| 2055s | so in this model here the smaller sites |
| 2058s | are not worth quite as much but they |
| 2059s | also still respond faster |
| 2061s | and you could kind of sit and work out |
| 2063s | exactly what mathematically the |
| 2066s | contribution of each site would be if |
| 2067s | you were running them all back to back |
| 2069s | after someone will |
| 2071s | i've done that also myself |
| 2073s | uh |
| 2074s | yeah so this is |
| 2077s | this is kind of uh the new the new |
| 2079s | complexes you can see that the rewards |
| 2081s | as they're listed how those would scale |
| 2083s | up |
| 2084s | the defenders would be different |
| 2086s | and if you look at the distribution |
| 2087s | column you can get an idea of how these |
| 2089s | things would be distributed |
| 2091s | so |
| 2093s | all of this anything that contains a |
| 2095s | number take it with a small grain of |
| 2096s | salt because we could absolutely change |
| 2098s | it before |
| 2099s | things get released and honestly half of |
| 2102s | the reason that we like to show you this |
| 2103s | beforehand is so that we can listen to |
| 2104s | your feedback and make adjustments if |
| 2107s | need be |
| 2108s | uh |
| 2110s | but you can notice that a lot of these |
| 2111s | say like distribution uh frontline only |
| 2114s | for example the medium advanced five |
| 2118s | that would be a system that would only |
| 2119s | spawn in a frontline system so if you |
| 2121s | were looking at the war zone and you saw |
| 2123s | like your guard and command ops and then |
| 2125s | a front line |
| 2126s | of those three you could only expect to |
| 2128s | find it in a front line and those would |
| 2130s | populate there |
| 2131s | if you see static respawn that's |
| 2133s | effectively like the sites of today |
| 2134s | where they just keep coming back in the |
| 2136s | system for most of them |
| 2138s | if you see common spawn and something |
| 2140s | about |
| 2141s | 70 percent of systems would have one |
| 2143s | moderates about 50 and then the ones |
| 2145s | that say medium low it's somewhere in |
| 2147s | the 30 range |
| 2148s | so like one in one in three or four |
| 2150s | systems you would find one of those |
| 2152s | sites |
| 2153s | uh which is not overly different than |
| 2155s | the open complex is today |
| 2159s | and then down at the bottom you'll see |
| 2160s | something particularly interesting which |
| 2162s | we haven't talked a whole lot about uh |
| 2164s | which is that uh big |
| 2166s | battlefield navy 30 site |
| 2168s | uh |
| 2169s | that is a unique piece of new content |
| 2171s | that we're looking at which is uh |
| 2175s | kind of meant more for uh fleet versus |
| 2177s | fleet combat these would be pretty rare |
| 2180s | um the spawns would happen maybe once |
| 2182s | every two hours or so |
| 2184s | so you'd only have one active in a war |
| 2185s | zone |
| 2186s | um and only sometimes so |
| 2189s | ideally like we're trying to aim it so |
| 2191s | if you're if you're on a specific time |
| 2194s | zone you can generally find one if |
| 2196s | you're playing for about two hours |
| 2199s | these are kind of like really big um the |
| 2202s | the goal here is to make them something |
| 2205s | of a |
| 2206s | uh |
| 2207s | a swing so if you kick one of these |
| 2209s | really hard it could give you a really |
| 2210s | big advantage in the war zone contest |
| 2213s | um and shake up the current state of the |
| 2216s | the faction of the system |
| 2219s | contest so for example if caldari was |
| 2221s | winning a system really hard |
| 2223s | um but then galenti swooped in and they |
| 2226s | won a couple battlefield sites in a row |
| 2227s | they could actually really kind of stall |
| 2230s | out the kaldari offensive or vice versa |
| 2232s | if kaldari |
| 2233s | took it they could kind of really |
| 2235s | rapidly swing things |
| 2237s | hopefully they'll be really rewarding |
| 2238s | and really interesting |
| 2241s | we should be playtesting them well at |
| 2244s | some point in the near future uh you'll |
| 2246s | find them on cc i'll let you know when |
| 2249s | uh |
| 2250s | and they're a little bit different than |
| 2251s | the average site so it's not just one |
| 2253s | big capture circle what we're kind of |
| 2254s | looking at would be almost two gates |
| 2256s | that would warp you into a central site |
| 2258s | and you would wind up |
| 2260s | rather far away from each other on like |
| 2262s | inside of this large battlefield |
| 2264s | and then you would have to slow boat |
| 2265s | around because uh warping would be |
| 2267s | disabled between some of the capture |
| 2269s | points |
| 2271s | in this battlefield that would have like |
| 2273s | racks or stations or big asteroid belts |
| 2275s | or whatever in it um so we're definitely |
| 2278s | trying something really new there i hope |
| 2280s | you guys like it |
| 2282s | should be it should be interesting um a |
| 2284s | couple questions where do where do |
| 2286s | battle cruisers fit into this |
| 2289s | battle cruisers uh |
| 2291s | so battle cruisers are kind of |
| 2293s | divorcing |
| 2295s | mpc yeah sorry going i was looking at |
| 2296s | the wrong column when i saw npc defender |
| 2298s | but please continue ah okay |
| 2302s | bella cruisers would generally be uh |
| 2303s | participating in the largest a couple |
| 2305s | brattle cruisers can uh kind of show up |
| 2308s | and |
| 2309s | and rapidly take down a battleship if |
| 2312s | they manage to catch one |
| 2313s | uh we don't have a battle cruiser |
| 2315s | specific site at the moment nice and |
| 2318s | nice dank leak |
| 2320s | on the with the battlefield thing on the |
| 2323s | small the small navy sites |
| 2327s | small navy sites yeah which |
| 2330s | oh oh i didn't even notice that |
| 2333s | yeah uh we're looking at new new ships |
| 2335s | i'm not going to tell you what ones but |
| 2337s | they there may or may not be hint on |
| 2338s | this side |
| 2340s | don't worry twist was on to that way |
| 2342s | before i said anything |
| 2344s | i didn't even notice yeah you just |
| 2346s | pointed it out |
| 2348s | i knew i'd be leaking something now |
| 2349s | you're gonna be worried about the rest |
| 2350s | of the presentation trying to figure out |
| 2352s | what is happening and then yeah i |
| 2357s | carry on |
| 2359s | so uh yeah so there there is additional |
| 2362s | content that we're not allowed to tell |
| 2363s | you about and that you can |
| 2365s | catch some clues from uh from that |
| 2367s | technically you didn't tell anyone about |
| 2369s | it i haven't said anything no exactly |
| 2373s | uh emily if you're watching this |
| 2375s | it wasn't me um okay so |
| 2378s | uh |
| 2379s | let's talk about kind of the design |
| 2381s | around like the system turnover rate so |
| 2384s | this is getting back into just uh |
| 2387s | pontificating about the development |
| 2389s | process um something that we |
| 2392s | i thought a lot about was the system |
| 2394s | turnover rate so if we're adding a bunch |
| 2396s | of uh |
| 2398s | sites to faction warfare i need to be |
| 2400s | sure that it's not |
| 2402s | all of a sudden turning over too fast |
| 2403s | because there's a bunch of vp being |
| 2405s | injected into the system and i need to |
| 2407s | be sure that i don't over adjust and |
| 2409s | make things too slow |
| 2411s | there's |
| 2412s | a good middle line in there somewhere |
| 2415s | we have a plan to |
| 2418s | our target here is to really kind of |
| 2421s | keep you feeling somewhat unique we want |
| 2423s | these uh contests to be |
| 2426s | a thing that takes place over several |
| 2428s | days capturing the system is rather a |
| 2431s | big shift um compared to albion and lion |
| 2434s | where like a |
| 2435s | system or region would turn over in a |
| 2437s | matter of 15 minutes |
| 2439s | um we want things to kind of feel |
| 2443s | not exactly slower there's quite a bit |
| 2445s | of action happening but we want like |
| 2447s | each turnover to be something with |
| 2448s | gravitas as people have to kind of |
| 2450s | readjust moving their uh their assets |
| 2453s | around in order to deal with that change |
| 2456s | and yes i'll get to the citadels um |
| 2459s | shortly |
| 2461s | um so we're at looking at about 48 hours |
| 2464s | today it's about 24. um the 48 was |
| 2467s | picked just to give us a little bit more |
| 2468s | leeway with the advantage system that |
| 2469s | you saw some information about in the |
| 2471s | blog yesterday i'll get to that in a |
| 2473s | moment |
| 2474s | uh |
| 2476s | which so if you're if you're pushing all |
| 2478s | of the system all of the the sites in |
| 2480s | the system |
| 2482s | constantly your your alliance is just |
| 2483s | dominating it with you know really good |
| 2486s | advantage and the good turnover rate you |
| 2489s | could still push it over in about the |
| 2490s | same time as it takes today um or it |
| 2492s | might you know go back and forth uh for |
| 2494s | a bit longer uh it's definitely |
| 2496s | something that we can play with uh |
| 2498s | some of this will just kind of we'll |
| 2500s | need to watch and see how the war zone |
| 2501s | reacts |
| 2502s | and some of this is of course always |
| 2504s | open to adjustment it's a very soft |
| 2506s | control where we're tweaking like little |
| 2508s | numbers here like ah this needs a little |
| 2510s | bit more victory points |
| 2512s | contribution isn't high enough uh this |
| 2513s | needs |
| 2514s | uh this is spawning too much you know |
| 2516s | we'll turn that down that sort of thing |
| 2521s | okay so uh the advantage system was |
| 2524s | something that was relatively new that |
| 2526s | we talked about |
| 2527s | uh in the blog yesterday |
| 2530s | uh and i want to give you a little bit |
| 2531s | more |
| 2532s | overview of what we're thinking there so |
| 2536s | on the |
| 2536s | kind of lower side the advantage system |
| 2538s | is a simulation of all of the complex |
| 2541s | factors that might factor in |
| 2543s | to a an empire success or failure in a |
| 2547s | in a conflict |
| 2548s | so it's all of the little things um |
| 2551s | their ability to resupply the morale of |
| 2554s | their troops their ability to collect |
| 2555s | intel or sabotage their foes propaganda |
| 2559s | in order to win the hearts and minds of |
| 2560s | people in the system |
| 2562s | uh all of these little things |
| 2564s | um can be combined into kind of one |
| 2567s | measure which is kind of how well is |
| 2569s | that faction doing |
| 2571s | so to speak uh and by doing this it |
| 2573s | allows us to create a bunch of new |
| 2575s | gameplay without having to create a new |
| 2577s | system for each which is really the core |
| 2578s | reason that we're looking at something |
| 2580s | like this |
| 2581s | so if we for example wanted to add in |
| 2583s | some sort of hacking gameplay to faction |
| 2585s | warfare as well as some sort of |
| 2587s | resupplying thing and someone over here |
| 2590s | like you're going to be making weapons |
| 2591s | for the militia |
| 2593s | and using some of your getting paid for |
| 2594s | that |
| 2595s | um |
| 2596s | we don't want to have to go and be like |
| 2599s | all right so exactly what are the |
| 2600s | mechanics of the hacking and |
| 2602s | how will this impact the war and exactly |
| 2605s | what are the mechanics of the hauling |
| 2606s | where do those resources get used what's |
| 2608s | this actually makes things a little bit |
| 2610s | simpler |
| 2611s | because it allows us to kind of pool all |
| 2612s | of these points and kind of really |
| 2614s | rapidly pump out different and |
| 2616s | interesting gameplay that can have an |
| 2617s | effect on the war that isn't just combat |
| 2621s | relating to the sites |
| 2623s | the other thing is that we really wanted |
| 2624s | it to be something that |
| 2627s | kind of supports the the primary |
| 2630s | gameplay of faction warfare and that you |
| 2632s | have all of these different sites and |
| 2633s | people are going to them to fight each |
| 2635s | other and we didn't want to accidentally |
| 2638s | crush that by like oops we accidentally |
| 2640s | made hauling |
| 2643s | the primary like the the optimal way to |
| 2645s | win and so nobody's really fighting |
| 2646s | anymore they're just running resources |
| 2648s | so you still have to fight the |
| 2650s | fighting's not going anywhere hopefully |
| 2652s | it's intensifying |
| 2654s | and we can add a bunch more of |
| 2656s | things for players who are looking to |
| 2658s | participate who aren't necessarily great |
| 2660s | at pvp themselves |
| 2663s | yeah this is the image that was oh sorry |
| 2666s | i think that is that is the |
| 2668s | one of the most important things with |
| 2669s | with the advantage system |
| 2671s | that it opens the door for us in the |
| 2673s | future to create |
| 2674s | uh opportunities for you know maybe |
| 2677s | industrialized miners uh other gameplay |
| 2680s | styles that usually don't really |
| 2683s | participate in fw |
| 2687s | yep it gives us a lot of opportunities |
| 2689s | and i've got an example of something |
| 2692s | kind of cool that i like the idea of |
| 2694s | there's some really fun stuff that we |
| 2695s | can do with it that i'll get to in a |
| 2697s | moment |
| 2698s | um |
| 2700s | so the advantage system as we're kind of |
| 2701s | looking at it you can kind of think of |
| 2703s | this as similar to adm so it measures |
| 2705s | the progress in a specific system this |
| 2708s | is not war zone wide so that each system |
| 2710s | would have a unique value for each |
| 2711s | faction |
| 2713s | and it's effectively two bars so |
| 2715s | defenders contributions and then the |
| 2717s | attacker's contributions |
| 2719s | and then what you do what we're looking |
| 2720s | at doing is just comparing how well each |
| 2722s | faction is doing and then if one faction |
| 2725s | is doing better than the other we give |
| 2727s | that faction a little bit of a bonus in |
| 2729s | terms of victory points |
| 2731s | so for example if uh |
| 2733s | blue is caldari here and red is |
| 2736s | galenti we'll call them |
| 2737s | uh |
| 2739s | glenn here attacking this caldari system |
| 2741s | and they're doing really good in terms |
| 2743s | of their hauling and stuff but you only |
| 2744s | have one system leading into it whereas |
| 2747s | like the caldari have two command ops |
| 2749s | backing up their their other one which |
| 2751s | is the terrain bonus |
| 2753s | that we mentioned |
| 2754s | um |
| 2755s | this would give them every time they |
| 2757s | capture a site |
| 2758s | run a calculation there's math somewhere |
| 2761s | that i cut out of this image uh in order |
| 2763s | to avoid giving too much stuff away |
| 2765s | because some of the stuff is still under |
| 2766s | development |
| 2767s | and |
| 2769s | they would earn some degree of victory |
| 2771s | bonus victory points for that site so |
| 2773s | for example if the site was worth 20 |
| 2775s | victory points and they had a 20 |
| 2776s | advantage |
| 2777s | they'd get an extra |
| 2780s | two points |
| 2781s | one point |
| 2783s | something something they'd get an extra |
| 2785s | extra bit of victory points on top of |
| 2787s | it uh |
| 2789s | and there's a whole bunch of things that |
| 2790s | kind of can make these things uh change |
| 2793s | so there there's something that you |
| 2795s | always have agency to kind of push up |
| 2797s | and down based on what you do so if you |
| 2799s | are running supply missions you're going |
| 2801s | to help out your side and push your side |
| 2803s | up |
| 2804s | you can also be out in space hunting |
| 2806s | down enemy supply depots for example |
| 2809s | which is almost like a decay mechanic |
| 2811s | that we're looking at |
| 2812s | so instead of just having the points |
| 2814s | kind of naturally drain out of the |
| 2815s | system |
| 2816s | we can make it a little bit more |
| 2818s | interesting by letting you shoot them |
| 2820s | and so instead of having them drain out |
| 2822s | what happens is that periodically over |
| 2824s | time |
| 2825s | these supply depots will spawn which |
| 2826s | represent some portion of the points in |
| 2828s | that faction's pool and when you destroy |
| 2831s | them they get removed from the pool so |
| 2833s | if you're about to hit a system and |
| 2836s | you're going to try to push really hard |
| 2837s | for a couple hours it'd be a really good |
| 2839s | idea to go make sure that you hit any |
| 2840s | supply depots in that system |
| 2843s | to weaken that faction and take |
| 2845s | advantage of it in the meantime |
| 2848s | uh the propaganda structures i'll get |
| 2850s | into that in a moment uh the battlefield |
| 2852s | i kind of showed you so that was that |
| 2854s | uh big rare fleet focused site that we |
| 2856s | were looking at um the only other |
| 2859s | additional thing here that hasn't really |
| 2861s | been explained is this terrain advantage |
| 2864s | uh so i mentioned this a little bit |
| 2866s | during fan fest in that we wanted to |
| 2868s | find ways to |
| 2870s | make the terrain a little bit more |
| 2871s | interesting so every system is not the |
| 2873s | same open up some new tactics |
| 2875s | and that sort of thing |
| 2877s | so what we're looking at here is that |
| 2878s | terrain would effectively be |
| 2880s | a floor value |
| 2882s | so for example |
| 2884s | um if you have it's it's effectively |
| 2886s | representing these supply lines that |
| 2888s | lead into a system |
| 2890s | so if there's a command operation system |
| 2892s | next to your |
| 2893s | uh system that you're defending then it |
| 2896s | will get some |
| 2898s | portion of |
| 2900s | automatic points added to the pool just |
| 2901s | by default |
| 2903s | and then if you have more command |
| 2904s | operation systems like if you had five |
| 2906s | the bar would be like half full |
| 2908s | uh and the attacker gets additional |
| 2910s | points for every front line connecting |
| 2911s | to that system |
| 2912s | so if you kind of surround a system you |
| 2915s | can |
| 2916s | be quite good and this also means that |
| 2918s | if you cut a system off |
| 2920s | they're going to lose their command |
| 2922s | operations you're going to gain an |
| 2923s | advantage floor and the attacker will be |
| 2925s | able to have like a really strong push |
| 2927s | for some time until the defender can |
| 2929s | work their bar back up |
| 2932s | so |
| 2933s | let's talk about what we can do with |
| 2935s | this so this is a an idea that i'm |
| 2938s | i've been pitching |
| 2940s | that i think is pretty fun it's just |
| 2942s | kind of an example of one of the |
| 2944s | interesting ways in which we can get uh |
| 2946s | make this work |
| 2947s | so if you picture almost a deploy just a |
| 2950s | deployable |
| 2951s | uh like uh you're sticking a big post in |
| 2953s | space with a bunch of megaphones on it |
| 2956s | and some propaganda posters |
| 2958s | that's transmitting |
| 2960s | propaganda down to the planets of the |
| 2962s | system kind of |
| 2963s | winning them to your side |
| 2966s | it's not too different from today's |
| 2967s | society |
| 2970s | this would do is basically steal points |
| 2972s | from the enemy faction and apply them to |
| 2974s | your faction kind of naturally siphoning |
| 2976s | them off |
| 2978s | um and there's a bunch of rules that i |
| 2980s | have kind of in the pitch for this where |
| 2981s | like you can only have a maximum of |
| 2984s | three per faction |
| 2986s | anchored in the system and then they |
| 2987s | would just kind of compete in pull |
| 2989s | points so in this example in this image |
| 2991s | that you can see here |
| 2992s | the defender has three of these |
| 2994s | propaganda beacons set up that are |
| 2995s | slowly draining points compared to the |
| 2998s | reds two so they're going to get you |
| 3000s | know every time this thing ticks every |
| 3001s | like 15 minutes |
| 3003s | points would be pulled from |
| 3005s | the |
| 3005s | red pool |
| 3006s | and added to the blue pool |
| 3009s | and this would just be a thing in space |
| 3010s | that you can go and shoot |
| 3012s | so if you wanted to |
| 3013s | just kind of get into a propaganda |
| 3015s | contest with people um |
| 3018s | maybe these things would be available |
| 3019s | through the lp store so |
| 3022s | no idea this is not actually confirmed |
| 3024s | for development |
| 3025s | but i just think it's kind of a fun idea |
| 3026s | and it really highlights the sort of |
| 3028s | things that we could |
| 3029s | uh do with this that might be really |
| 3031s | interesting you could also see applying |
| 3033s | this sort of thing to |
| 3035s | adm's milsaq |
| 3037s | who knows |
| 3041s | so |
| 3042s | the other thing that's right |
| 3045s | no spoilers |
| 3046s | that's not a spoiler |
| 3048s | it's a |
| 3050s | a random thought |
| 3051s | uh |
| 3053s | other things so uh |
| 3056s | this is a list of random other things |
| 3058s | that i got to when we were about five |
| 3060s | minutes before this meeting so |
| 3062s | some of these we've already talked about |
| 3063s | but the top one needs a little bit more |
| 3066s | uh |
| 3068s | so we were talking about citadels in |
| 3070s | space |
| 3071s | um this does tie into the whole |
| 3073s | allegiance discussion and |
| 3076s | what it means to ally with a faction but |
| 3078s | at the same time we're also looking for |
| 3080s | a relatively simple |
| 3082s | and easy rule that we can apply |
| 3084s | and the one that we're looking at at the |
| 3085s | moment is |
| 3087s | very simply changing what it means to be |
| 3089s | able to dock in a system based on |
| 3091s | whether or not it's in faction warfare |
| 3094s | which |
| 3096s | is this if you're in a militia |
| 3098s | and the system is controlled by an enemy |
| 3100s | faction you're only able to dock and |
| 3102s | undock in pods |
| 3104s | so the reason that we were looking at |
| 3106s | this in particular was because there |
| 3107s | were some |
| 3108s | edge cases that were a little bit tricky |
| 3110s | to deal with especially surrounding |
| 3112s | citadels in |
| 3114s | uh |
| 3116s | in faction warfare |
| 3117s | um |
| 3118s | with people getting like fully locked |
| 3120s | out of their structure and that sort of |
| 3121s | thing that we didn't want to have to |
| 3123s | didn't want to make like big problems |
| 3125s | for |
| 3126s | so this would allow you to always dock |
| 3127s | and manage your structure if you needed |
| 3129s | to but it would only be in a pod and |
| 3131s | you'd have to undock in a pod afterwards |
| 3134s | but hopefully that should ease the |
| 3136s | restrictions in order to keep the rules |
| 3138s | uh equal across space we'd also be |
| 3140s | applying this to |
| 3143s | stations because we kind of want to |
| 3145s | not have those lines get too blurry |
| 3147s | between the two |
| 3148s | so that would almost be new right now it |
| 3150s | would be a small |
| 3151s | benefit i guess because you'd be able to |
| 3153s | dock your pod into |
| 3155s | a citadel um but |
| 3158s | yeah |
| 3159s | so |
| 3161s | we didn't want to step too hard on the |
| 3162s | third parties that are living there or |
| 3164s | uh fact um factions that are |
| 3167s | uh coming through in order to run their |
| 3169s | logistics networks to nalsack all of |
| 3171s | that sort of thing |
| 3172s | uh so it should be a relatively soft |
| 3174s | rule um that helps to avoid the |
| 3176s | particular issue of |
| 3178s | militia members who |
| 3180s | don't own a system being able to just |
| 3183s | kind of avoid any restrictions by using |
| 3186s | a friendly citadel |
| 3189s | or a neutral citadel in that case |
| 3192s | uh |
| 3194s | another thing i just want to remind you |
| 3195s | guys coming is the no cooldown for clean |
| 3197s | swap and npc station that particular |
| 3200s | change i think is coming out this month |
| 3202s | i think it's going to be a little bit |
| 3203s | early |
| 3204s | uh so that one is fun if you live in npc |
| 3207s | that i think that hits faction warfare |
| 3209s | quite heavily but that one's actually a |
| 3210s | pretty wide reaching change |
| 3212s | so |
| 3213s | hope you guys enjoy that |
| 3215s | uh what else do i have on this list |
| 3217s | uh what what's happening to the tier |
| 3220s | system |
| 3221s | uh ccp's like what is happening to the |
| 3223s | tier system |
| 3226s | uh it's getting deleted |
| 3230s | yep |
| 3232s | this is my last sign |
| 3236s | okay that's okay i was just going to |
| 3237s | bring us back |
| 3238s | yeah that's all uh feel free to bring us |
| 3240s | back when it closes out |
| 3242s | um so yeah we're looking at fully |
| 3243s | deleting the tier system um we want the |
| 3246s | rewards to kind of be |
| 3247s | uh beneficial in their own right and at |
| 3250s | fan fest you saw us talk a bit about the |
| 3252s | uh |
| 3254s | objective driven |
| 3256s | system |
| 3257s | objective driven design and |
| 3260s | rewards associated with that so for |
| 3261s | example |
| 3263s | instead of having tears just kind of |
| 3264s | representing an overall |
| 3266s | you know you get a benefit that's very |
| 3269s | vague because your faction's doing good |
| 3270s | right now uh it would instead be |
| 3273s | your faction has a very specific reason |
| 3275s | to want to capture that system and if |
| 3277s | you help them do it you'll gain some |
| 3280s | additional bonus package yourself |
| 3282s | uh is kind of the way that we want to go |
| 3284s | in the future so if you help your packet |
| 3286s | uh help you |
| 3288s | help your faction |
| 3291s | achieve their objectives then you'll get |
| 3292s | rewarded appropriately |
| 3294s | for each of those |
| 3296s | um and ideally there's going to be a |
| 3298s | whole bunch of different objectives that |
| 3299s | you can |
| 3300s | interact with out in space |
| 3303s | yeah and the plan is that |
| 3305s | as we move forward we will be updating |
| 3308s | and creating more objectives uh so what |
| 3310s | you see day one with the frontline |
| 3312s | system it's not going to be |
| 3314s | all there is |
| 3319s | yeah we're very much laying the |
| 3320s | groundwork for this uh |
| 3322s | uh |
| 3322s | fall expansion um a lot of it is the |
| 3325s | stuff that we've shown here there's a |
| 3326s | bunch of little stuff that is also |
| 3328s | coming that hasn't been announced |
| 3331s | and there were no leaks in this |
| 3333s | presentation so please don't read into |
| 3335s | anything that you saw none whatsoever |
| 3338s | whatsoever |
| 3339s | um |
| 3340s | uh yeah just thank thanks teddy for the |
| 3343s | for the sick fox hollows hoodies that |
| 3345s | you sent us that's even embroidered with |
| 3347s | my name i want to stand up to show you |
| 3348s | the whole thing but i've got my harry |
| 3350s | potter boxer shorts on and no one needs |
| 3352s | to see that |
| 3353s | uh maybe if you're fortunate i'll do |
| 3355s | that in one of my own streams i'm just |
| 3356s | going through some of the questions that |
| 3357s | i had lined up |
| 3359s | uh before the start of the stream that |
| 3361s | i'd cribbed from the forums and the |
| 3362s | subreddit but i think you've pretty much |
| 3364s | addressed all of those i know there were |
| 3366s | a lot of questions asked in twitch chat |
| 3367s | while ccpro was giving a presentation we |
| 3369s | managed to get some of those in there |
| 3371s | but not all of them i just remind you |
| 3373s | guys that there is going to be a live q |
| 3374s | a on discord next week with ccp aurora |
| 3377s | and ccp psych where it'll just be |
| 3380s | the entire thing is just going to be a |
| 3381s | discussion with the people who are there |
| 3382s | in the discord without having to sort of |
| 3385s | sit there and through the presentation |
| 3388s | but we're coming up on an hour so we can |
| 3389s | probably wrap this up now i think that |
| 3391s | was really really good and put a lot of |
| 3393s | meat on the bones from the dev blog |
| 3394s | yesterday and that people heard some |
| 3396s | things here |
| 3397s | which they can get pretty excited about |
| 3399s | i did notice for example when you're |
| 3401s | talking about the changes to the |
| 3402s | citadels however in twitch chat there |
| 3403s | was you know some um differing opinions |
| 3407s | some people loved it |
| 3408s | i saw |
| 3409s | michael vector say like oh please don't |
| 3411s | do this so um |
| 3413s | in the coming months leading up to |
| 3415s | uh the eventual release of all these |
| 3417s | updates i'm there i assume they're going |
| 3419s | to be ample opportunities for for these |
| 3421s | kinds of discussions um and so if you |
| 3423s | guys are active on on the e forums for |
| 3425s | for example want to provide your |
| 3426s | feedback there we can take all that into |
| 3428s | account |
| 3430s | and of course you can put stuff to ccpro |
| 3432s | or in ccp psych during the q a next week |
| 3434s | i guess it can be also be just like a |
| 3436s | sharing of your opinion right as opposed |
| 3439s | to strictly asking and answering |
| 3440s | questions if you would prefer |
| 3443s | okay yeah sounds good i look forward to |
| 3446s | answering questions i i tend to pop into |
| 3448s | discord at random times and answer |
| 3449s | questions when i can see there's a lot |
| 3451s | of stuff in there so see |
| 3453s | you have to bounce and go to a meeting |
| 3454s | with the csm in just a couple of minutes |
| 3456s | is there anything you wanted to add on |
| 3457s | at the end here before we go yeah |
| 3459s | yes uh people should pay attention on |
| 3462s | what is happening in game uh because uh |
| 3466s | we are giving out information of or |
| 3469s | let's say we're |
| 3470s | trying to foreshadow |
| 3472s | uh |
| 3473s | what is happening and uh |
| 3476s | yeah i'm just gonna leave it at that all |
| 3478s | right no worries that's cool um just a |
| 3480s | little bit more housekeeping uh for |
| 3482s | folks who are interested tonight |
| 3484s | particularly new players who have come |
| 3485s | to the stream because they saw the |
| 3486s | notification or something in game |
| 3487s | tonight at 1900 |
| 3488s | uh in just uh three hours from now mike |
| 3491s | kingswell will be back doing another one |
| 3492s | of his excellent series of lectures for |
| 3494s | each eve academy based on the eve |
| 3496s | university curriculum tonight the |
| 3497s | subject is going to be on d scan i've |
| 3499s | already mentioned the discord q a with |
| 3501s | these two folks next week |
| 3504s | not next week but the week after that |
| 3506s | we'll have another |
| 3508s | stream like this one and which will also |
| 3510s | be focusing on the faction warfare |
| 3512s | related stuff but from the law side of |
| 3514s | things and the um uh sort of the |
| 3517s | narrative driven design element where |
| 3518s | and with ccp loki and ccp delicate zero |
| 3521s | so there'll be more talk about this this |
| 3523s | update and the faction warfare goings on |
| 3525s | but |
| 3526s | just from the in-game law kind of a |
| 3528s | perspective |
| 3529s | but i think we've sort of wrapped it up |
| 3531s | there what i'll do is once the stream |
| 3533s | ends ends |
| 3535s | while we're still on the air though i'll |
| 3536s | do a twitch giveaway in chat for a bunch |
| 3540s | of just random old |
| 3542s | skins that haven't been available for |
| 3543s | ages but they all look sick and so |
| 3545s | they're a little bit rare now so i'll |
| 3548s | get 10 winners for that and then we'll |
| 3549s | rage you off to someone once i do the |
| 3551s | draw so stick around for that um |
| 3554s | you guys need to add anything else or |
| 3556s | shall we stick a pin in it there |
| 3559s | i think that's |
| 3560s | all that i had prepped for um there's |
| 3562s | there's a bunch of other little stuff |
| 3564s | that i'll be able to talk about in more |
| 3565s | details hopefully soon |
| 3568s | and there's also kind of little stuff |
| 3570s | that i'm hoping to sneak in for this |
| 3572s | fall as well um so looking at looking at |
| 3575s | munin's and all of that sort of thing oh |
| 3577s | and there's one thing that did come up i |
| 3578s | was going to ask sorry just quickly was |
| 3580s | um people were some people curious about |
| 3582s | when these things were going to turn up |
| 3583s | and see the giveaway isn't going yet |
| 3585s | guys just just chill um |
| 3588s | when when things from this will start to |
| 3590s | turn up on on singularity for them to |
| 3592s | test out will it be coming out in dribs |
| 3593s | and drabs are things are ready to get |
| 3594s | tested are we gonna sort of like wait |
| 3596s | until |
| 3597s | uh a month out for example from release |
| 3599s | then just go blue drop it all at once do |
| 3601s | you have any ideas actually |
| 3602s | there's actually some sneaky things that |
| 3604s | are already |
| 3606s | like in the code on tranquility but |
| 3608s | they're they're all kind of like feature |
| 3609s | flag turned off okay um so i |
| 3612s | it will be coming out before um |
| 3614s | especially the complex stuff um that'll |
| 3617s | that'll be coming up before i'd i'd say |
| 3618s | like especially |
| 3620s | um |
| 3622s | let me figure out my months in order |
| 3623s | here um |
| 3625s | in september you'll probably see uh a |
| 3627s | lot of stuff on singularity |
| 3629s | all right |
| 3630s | well everyone thank you for joining like |
| 3632s | i said stick around oh sorry guys this |
| 3633s | besides just one final thing for me uh |
| 3635s | it's the best time uh for people to send |
| 3638s | us feedback uh from everything they |
| 3640s | heard |
| 3641s | or they read |
| 3642s | and maybe you know even after the q a |
| 3644s | next week |
| 3645s | uh just putting it out there yeah why |
| 3647s | don't we spin up a forum a new a fresh |
| 3649s | forum thread after the q a where people |
| 3651s | can then sort of digest everything that |
| 3652s | was in the blog in today's stream and in |
| 3654s | the q a |
| 3655s | then they can put their thoughts out |
| 3657s | there and we'll farm that |
| 3658s | all right |
| 3660s | we're paying a lot of attention to what |
| 3661s | you guys are talking about and how you |
| 3663s | guys feel about things that we're |
| 3664s | working on so |
| 3665s | we want to make it cool and you can help |
| 3667s | us do it |
| 3668s | right |
| 3669s | all right everyone thanks for tuning in |
| 3670s | stick around for the raffle i've got to |
| 3672s | get ccp psych to his csm meeting so |
| 3675s | we'll stick a pin in it there and uh see |
| 3678s | you in a couple weeks with ccp delegate |
| 3679s | zero and ccp lucky |
| 3686s | you |