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| 6s | thank you |
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| 31s | good afternoon good morning good evening |
| 34s | wherever you are and welcome back to day |
| 36s | two of the alliance tournament 18 uh |
| 39s | mimitar Republic trials where teams |
| 42s | compete to see who is going to make it |
| 44s | through into the main Alliance |
| 45s | tournament uh in just over a month from |
| 49s | now I'm mythical Hawk joined um once |
| 52s | again by mystical Knight and Wingnut |
| 54s | cross Misty how are you this morning |
| 57s | nice refreshed ready to go yeah no it |
| 61s | should be good I'm looking forward to |
| 61s | some good games today |
| 63s | excellent I am as well and I see we're |
| 66s | joined also by working that cross all |
| 67s | the way from Orlando and under uh what |
| 69s | time is it there for you Wingnut |
| 71s | uh 1 30 in the morning so you know a |
| 75s | little early |
| 76s | yeah so you won't really just get that |
| 78s | Sun out of your eyes with those glasses |
| 80s | there so uh stylish as always |
| 83s | um but let's get on with the day so we |
| 85s | have our first match coming up in just |
| 87s | about three minutes though and it's |
| 89s | going to be a good one it's going to be |
| 90s | scary Wormhole people the dark space |
| 92s | initiative as they're sometimes known |
| 93s | and goonsworm Federation uh the goons |
| 97s | historically terrible at uh tournaments |
| 101s | especially Alliance tournament uh so |
| 102s | much so they had to make their own uh |
| 104s | the anger games uh obviously run by Dirk |
| 106s | and swarthracil uh in fact the top three |
| 108s | in Anger games actually got uh got |
| 110s | straight into alliance tournament 18 |
| 112s | this year so anger games looking good |
| 114s | for uh for the future hope to see some |
| 116s | more of those |
| 117s | um but Misty can the goons get out of |
| 120s | feeders and actually enter the main |
| 122s | Alliance tournament this year |
| 124s | well I think you know something's been |
| 125s | rigged in the background because they |
| 127s | haven't actually flown yet so scary |
| 129s | Wormhole people won't know what goons |
| 131s | are bringing or where that matter is |
| 132s | whereas scary Wormhole people uh did fly |
| 135s | yesterday and they won |
| 137s | um not as convincingly as perhaps they'd |
| 139s | hoped |
| 140s | um against uh respectively I believe so |
| 142s | there is definitely a chance goons can |
| 144s | somehow swing it and get to the main |
| 146s | event this time |
| 148s | yeah that would be pretty interesting |
| 150s | um ski Rumble people we can see the |
| 152s | bands on the screen now Banning balgar |
| 153s | and lucky and slept near goons bang |
| 155s | Nighthawk Loki and Scorpion Navy issue |
| 158s | Wingnut what do you think about these |
| 159s | bands here scorpion Navy's an |
| 161s | interesting one from the guns |
| 163s | yeah Scott Navy's a pretty old uh |
| 165s | standby for a pretty heavy Shield cores |
| 167s | uh Cruise or rapid heavy setups the um |
| 171s | the Loki was he said there was a low-key |
| 172s | band right I didn't misread that |
| 174s | yeah there was a lucky band |
| 176s | yeah so they've banned out the basically |
| 178s | the Nighthawk rush and then banned out |
| 180s | heavy Shield core |
| 182s | not what other Shield comes to the left |
| 184s | that could really fit that besides maybe |
| 185s | a Minotaur |
| 187s | picked up that yoga band |
| 190s | yeah that would uh I mean that was |
| 192s | obviously a very dominating comp in |
| 195s | previous tournaments uh we saw the slept |
| 197s | near so the um mayhawk lucky Rush In |
| 200s | Alliance open it made a few appearances |
| 202s | in the live stream at 17. not seen it |
| 204s | hugely used thus far in Alliance |
| 206s | tournament 18. uh mystical might is |
| 209s | there any particular reason that you |
| 210s | think maybe that it's not going to be |
| 211s | used as often as those previous |
| 212s | tournaments |
| 214s | yeah I think the the Nighthawk Loki Rush |
| 217s | that we saw in Alliance opens uh |
| 220s | benefited from the rule of three where |
| 222s | you could only bring three of each ship |
| 224s | type |
| 225s | um to the grid so you could only bring |
| 226s | three Cruisers and you know the |
| 228s | Strategic Cruisers kind of filled that |
| 229s | role quite nicely with the ability to |
| 231s | bring four ships of each class now |
| 234s | um there's probably just better comps |
| 235s | that you can really bring plus based on |
| 238s | previous performance in tournaments the |
| 241s | points have been reject a little bit to |
| 244s | make it so that we're not just going to |
| 245s | see the same thing over and over and |
| 246s | over again so we do balance for you know |
| 250s | ship performance in previous tournaments |
| 253s | Yeah you mentioned the rule of three |
| 255s | um that was previously you could bring |
| 256s | three of a particular uh ship size three |
| 259s | Cruisers three battle cruisers for |
| 260s | example uh this year it's the rule of |
| 262s | four you can bring four uh for example |
| 264s | if you wanted to you could bring four |
| 265s | dimoses uh that would certainly be an |
| 267s | option that you could choose to to do |
| 270s | um I don't think it's a recommended |
| 272s | decision uh bringing four Diamond says |
| 274s | but it is something that you could do |
| 275s | this year uh bring that cross have you |
| 278s | seen any comps that you think we're |
| 280s | going to see more of or the the |
| 284s | Cornerstone of the meta this year |
| 287s | at the moment we're seeing a lot of |
| 288s | triple Battleship cores that I've seen |
| 289s | and sometimes they're full DPS sometimes |
| 291s | they're control battleships sometimes |
| 293s | they're just triple Cruise battleships |
| 295s | so I think we're going to see a lot more |
| 297s | of that |
| 298s | it it does I think there's definitely |
| 300s | holes in that kind of comp it can be |
| 301s | broken apart with a good team but at the |
| 303s | moment we're going to see I think a lot |
| 304s | of them just because they're pretty damn |
| 306s | effect |
| 307s | other options might be maybe more drone |
| 309s | control comps but I'm not sure on that |
| 311s | yet |
| 313s | drone control is something that um I |
| 315s | think we will see a bunch more of |
| 318s | um interestingly yesterday Mr drone |
| 320s | control comp actually lost |
| 322s | um I can't remember which match it was |
| 323s | but a rather surprising loss based on uh |
| 327s | what was on field do you think drone |
| 329s | control |
| 330s | um will be a strong competition or do |
| 332s | you think there's just too many ways to |
| 333s | counter it |
| 335s | yeah I was just looking through uh one |
| 337s | of our docs in the background I think |
| 338s | that might have been electus Matari with |
| 340s | the eos's and their hugin |
| 343s | um against kitchen sinkhole |
| 345s | um drones are historically finicky |
| 349s | um they are powerful if used right but |
| 352s | there's just so much that can go wrong |
| 355s | um I'm not sure if people know but if |
| 356s | you put mobile drones on a Target that's |
| 358s | my Co-op driving then they have a |
| 360s | tendency of just diagram completely so |
| 363s | it requires your Pilots to be on their |
| 365s | A-game like paying attention and staying |
| 366s | in drone control range of their target |
| 368s | and if anything goes wrong then it |
| 371s | quickly spirals out of control |
| 373s | um so I expect we'll see some more drone |
| 375s | comps as we go forward but I wouldn't |
| 376s | expect it to be you know the Mainstay |
| 378s | for many of the teams that will be |
| 380s | flying today |
| 382s | yeah I think I agree with you um I think |
| 385s | there's certainly a number of teams are |
| 387s | going to be still trying to hold what |
| 389s | they think the meta is likely to be |
| 391s | close to their chest uh not wanting to |
| 393s | you know risk showing everything and |
| 395s | we're actually in essentially a group |
| 396s | stage uh at the moment so teams are not |
| 398s | just one and done like previous feeder |
| 400s | rounds they're actually trying to |
| 401s | compete to get the top position in their |
| 403s | groups to get forward and through into |
| 405s | the the main tournament |
| 407s | um but speaking of competing uh the |
| 408s | teams have landed on grid now uh we're |
| 410s | about one minute behind so let's go over |
| 412s | to the arena with zerozak destroyer and |
| 415s | Jin tan |
| 418s | hello everyone and welcome to your first |
| 421s | game of the evening I'm here with zuark |
| 423s | and we have a really interesting match |
| 425s | up here it looks like we've got an armor |
| 427s | kingslayer being brought by uh goons |
| 429s | going up against a shield kingslayer |
| 432s | potentially it's four battleships here |
| 435s | Zoo uh what do you make of this |
| 437s | uh tsun also going for an armor King |
| 439s | Sarah there the bar gas might be |
| 441s | throwing you off but I noticed an |
| 442s | advertising Inquisitor but it isn't |
| 444s | going hard with four battleships here |
| 446s | throwing in the practice as well so I |
| 449s | think Tennyson's trying to just bring as |
| 451s | much raw fires power as possible but you |
| 453s | can see they're paying for points by |
| 455s | bringing something like a towel War as |
| 456s | well so let's see if that pays off now |
| 458s | as the match kicks off |
| 460s | yeah you can see that the uh The Tackle |
| 462s | here this is going to be what really |
| 463s | makes the difference from the Conde side |
| 465s | if they're going to win they need to be |
| 466s | able to use that Mala that cycling issue |
| 468s | and that pontifex effectively to lock |
| 469s | things down spread them apart and |
| 471s | hopefully not die to this initial volley |
| 473s | said I'm just starting to apply on Dirks |
| 476s | to teal looks like they're going for the |
| 477s | head shot on the team captain |
| 480s | quite interesting they might be really |
| 481s | confident in their Supreme Firepower |
| 483s | normally what you see in a kingslayer |
| 485s | comp is they would headshot them easy |
| 486s | pick like an execute right there xcare |
| 488s | is getting a light drone Cloud onto |
| 490s | right now but just like you say Dirk |
| 491s | seals in half armor already looking |
| 493s | really bad |
| 495s | yeah they are taking an absolute |
| 497s | pounding they're going to trade |
| 498s | potentially a typhoon here for a caracal |
| 500s | and that is not a trade you want to be |
| 501s | making that said these rep drones are |
| 503s | putting in a lot of work here |
| 505s | um keeping ducks to teal alive for just |
| 506s | a little bit longer they need to find a |
| 509s | purchase onto one of these other support |
| 510s | ships or maybe even start uh brawling |
| 513s | down one of these battleships if they're |
| 515s | gonna win this match |
| 517s | oh it's getting very close I'm not sure |
| 519s | if goons are trying to bait them right |
| 520s | now because pretty much if these clips |
| 521s | on TD Sun all finish without their |
| 523s | typhoon down that is four battleships |
| 526s | just sitting there for almost a half a |
| 528s | minute just on reload and not being able |
| 529s | to do anything and right now it's not |
| 531s | looking like they can actually finish |
| 532s | him off so uh but unfortunately as for |
| 534s | goons as well they're in the same boat |
| 536s | here having to read those rapid Clips as |
| 538s | well um so we're going to see if the |
| 540s | teams are going to try and reassess |
| 541s | their target or maybe teaches gonna be |
| 543s | confident enough to finish that off but |
| 545s | they might be actually just looking to |
| 546s | finish off this lighter Target of |
| 547s | execure instead |
| 550s | yeah um you know you shouldn't normally |
| 552s | need paints to apply to a typhoon but um |
| 554s | wow look at that just absolutely |
| 556s | destroyed there that Tower that's why we |
| 558s | don't see T1 destroyers brought very |
| 560s | often to the tournament uh their range |
| 562s | Advantage doesn't count for a huge |
| 564s | amount in a setting like this and it |
| 566s | just gets tapped Off the Grid it's going |
| 569s | to be a question now of if uh TD synth |
| 571s | has brought any smart bombs or anything |
| 573s | that can really effectively deal with |
| 575s | this cloud of web drones because the |
| 576s | Jack door and the pontifex you know |
| 579s | they're not really well suited for that |
| 580s | and they're getting deleted as well here |
| 581s | quite quickly |
| 583s | I mean I'm surprised with four |
| 585s | battleships from TD synside it looks |
| 586s | like reload's coming off they probably |
| 588s | both teams are looking to stop |
| 589s | supporting either side Jack though Busy |
| 591s | Dying there on the TDC inside uh the |
| 592s | side Fleet on the goons so there goes |
| 594s | down the Jackal safely and Lagoon's |
| 595s | gonna be trade of goons first I'm quite |
| 597s | surprised that tdsn isn't actually just |
| 599s | to look Ram in there take advantage of |
| 600s | these uh four battleships with muted |
| 602s | smart bombs they look and just play a |
| 604s | range game here and um not sure if it's |
| 606s | gonna bite them in the butt right now |
| 609s | yeah you can see the o1 shower there in |
| 611s | the Muller he's managed to hold on to |
| 612s | Archibald in the typhoon Fleet issue so |
| 614s | probably keeping uh all of them from |
| 617s | going in but still you don't want to |
| 618s | Anchor up you want to be taking |
| 619s | advantage |
| 620s | doing malediction over there uh going |
| 623s | for a backline tackle onto the frigates |
| 627s | of The Inquisitor I think right now so |
| 629s | zier and Arjun getting in uh looks like |
| 631s | goons are trying to be a lot more |
| 632s | aggressive now on finishing off I think |
| 635s | they smell blood in the water realizing |
| 637s | that tedison matific overextended a bit |
| 639s | and not really executed quite well in |
| 640s | their target choice but as I say that |
| 642s | that mallard that you're talking about |
| 643s | their heavy tackle on the Goon side just |
| 645s | went down |
| 646s | yeah it's going to be a struggle for the |
| 649s | uh the TD Center to really find anything |
| 651s | to apply to from this point though uh |
| 653s | they've got a couple of those um |
| 655s | destroyers they might be able to take |
| 656s | out the links uh but given that they |
| 658s | can't break those type the break the |
| 660s | typhoon with that executor left on the |
| 662s | grid they're going to need to find |
| 662s | purchase onto him somehow |
| 664s | I'd expect we're seeing goons make a |
| 666s | really good decision here |
| 668s | making really good decision from goons |
| 670s | you can see there's suddenly maneuvering |
| 672s | in they've gotten rid of the frig lodgy |
| 674s | that's fantastic that I'm maneuvering |
| 675s | and hopefully going to try and take |
| 676s | advantage of these battleships with you |
| 677s | know smart bombs and newts um a move I |
| 680s | really feel TD uh tedison should have |
| 682s | done right at the beginning but goon's |
| 683s | capitalizing now on this initiative |
| 685s | um lodgy is still live on the good side |
| 687s | uh good on them keeping that execure |
| 688s | alive not sure how much e-war has to |
| 690s | play with us right now but um goons seem |
| 692s | to be doing a fantastic job |
| 694s | yeah we can see damp effects uh going |
| 696s | from the typhoons actually it looks like |
| 698s | onto the uh the support of the Condi |
| 702s | team but it doesn't seem to be having |
| 703s | the impact that they're hoping it would |
| 705s | be |
| 706s | going down on the Goon side |
| 709s | um this actually might be a turning |
| 710s | point so kudos to goon's initiative that |
| 712s | they had so far but unfortunately |
| 714s | tedison is alive of four battleships |
| 716s | largely still alive on Lagoon side but |
| 718s | uh if the second Battleship typhoon 3 |
| 720s | issue having a bit more HP at least uh |
| 722s | but if that goes down as well that's uh |
| 724s | that's pretty much game I'd say in favor |
| 726s | of TD sin |
| 727s | yeah it's actually a really interesting |
| 729s | choice here from the TDS and team rather |
| 731s | than using the typical |
| 733s | um armor maintenance Bots that we |
| 735s | normally see used by kingslayer teams |
| 736s | they have used pure damage drones and |
| 739s | they're setting those damage drones on |
| 740s | the rep drones of the Condi team kind of |
| 743s | so as this match has been going on |
| 744s | they've been slowly chipping away at the |
| 746s | sustain that goons have been able to |
| 748s | bring to the field that said then I'll |
| 750s | go for the bar guest so they're going to |
| 751s | try and take the highest DPS threat off |
| 753s | the field |
| 754s | um from their opponents here and try and |
| 756s | even things up we only got five minutes |
| 758s | left on the match this one actually |
| 759s | could potentially go to time |
| 762s | uh I think uh td7 is actually going to |
| 765s | be able to finish off at typhoon uh he's |
| 766s | probably going to live here right now uh |
| 768s | execure is going to pick him up here as |
| 769s | watch his armor go up slightly a bit |
| 771s | more but we saw the previous typhoon |
| 774s | being quite a similar situation full |
| 776s | armor half structure and then just uh |
| 778s | once all the battleships reloaded they |
| 780s | just did a quick uh shift and |
| 782s | deleted him |
| 783s | um so yeah that looks like goon |
| 786s | stabilized but I suspect once those |
| 787s | reloads are finished we're going to see |
| 789s | quite a quick delete of GoldenEye on the |
| 791s | Goon side |
| 792s | yeah we've got a little bit of a drone |
| 794s | target change it looks like um TT center |
| 796s | now putting all of that damage drones on |
| 799s | that maladiction trying to clear him |
| 800s | away from the bar guest get him free to |
| 803s | burn off and potentially waste an entire |
| 804s | clip from uh the goonsworm side well |
| 808s | this is this is getting really close |
| 809s | really intense just because they you |
| 811s | know we've seen six ships from this TDC |
| 813s | inside go down but they've still got |
| 815s | almost um almost three quarters of their |
| 817s | points left on the grid and there we go |
| 819s | typhoon fully issue down |
| 821s | this is now turning into it looks like |
| 822s | TV |
| 824s | I think TD stone is just pushing us |
| 826s | through with their four chunky boys |
| 828s | there right now uh the missile spew is |
| 830s | uh powerful right now and uh guns are |
| 833s | just left with one Battleship |
| 835s | um I'm not sure if they're gonna be able |
| 836s | to finish the clip into this phone |
| 837s | obviously the X gear is sitting here a |
| 839s | bit high on heat and its highs on this |
| 841s | reps probably a lot not able to put out |
| 844s | all those extra what it can to keep this |
| 846s | food uh Fleet food alive |
| 849s | um but I think it's all down here all |
| 850s | here right now for goons and I'm pretty |
| 853s | much looks like tdsen's gonna win for me |
| 855s | oh yeah and it looks like a bit of a |
| 857s | piloting area there from MWR Warrior uh |
| 859s | he's just drifted a little bit too close |
| 861s | to those two typhoons and uh picked up a |
| 864s | couple of heavy Newt Cycles being forced |
| 865s | to reposition the executor it's not the |
| 867s | same as the aniros it doesn't have |
| 869s | nearly the same amount of capacitor if |
| 871s | you force it to mwd constantly if you |
| 873s | put any sort of heavy Newt on it it's |
| 875s | going to drop its reps and you can see |
| 876s | the effect that that's happening there |
| 877s | having there on glendy's he's going into |
| 879s | armor going into structure |
| 881s | this this is it looks like a victory |
| 883s | secured for TD sin |
| 886s | and like you were saying actually about |
| 887s | that execure uh unfortunate thing that |
| 889s | it does uh normally our nearest able to |
| 891s | go deal prop and execure normally has to |
| 893s | make a choice about which prophet has as |
| 895s | well so uh on the downside of it but |
| 897s | obviously the upside being cheap on |
| 899s | points and if you're living the entire |
| 902s | match like this you can seriously get |
| 903s | some amazing reps out but uh doesn't |
| 905s | matter how amazing your reps are when |
| 907s | you're facing four battleships worth of |
| 909s | damage prax has been quite an |
| 912s | interesting choice here |
| 913s | um like it's a practice where they bring |
| 915s | for bonuses huge in town |
| 917s | so the Praxis has the bonus of being |
| 919s | able to |
| 921s | um use pretty much any weapon system and |
| 924s | in this case that means I brought some |
| 926s | uh rapid heavy missiles to complement |
| 928s | the rest of their comp but it also |
| 930s | brings alongside that a really unique |
| 933s | flat uh resistances to every single |
| 935s | damage type and a massive drone Bay that |
| 939s | can help you with your utility in |
| 941s | matches like this and we've seen it drop |
| 943s | a couple of different flights of drones |
| 944s | over the course of this match and there |
| 946s | we go the typhoon for the issue of |
| 948s | glendy's finally drops oh that's that's |
| 950s | tragic for this quantity team it looked |
| 952s | like they had it really early on in this |
| 953s | game but they just weren't able to uh |
| 955s | turn and deal with the uh the heavy DPS |
| 958s | being brought out by there it was |
| 960s | looking quite bad for tdsson there at |
| 962s | the start uh you were suspecting with |
| 964s | four battleships on grid |
| 966s | um they were going to make quite a |
| 967s | flashy show at the beginning execure |
| 968s | getting mopped up there now and they had |
| 970s | that initial stalled out so you know it |
| 972s | might have been a potential there for |
| 974s | goons to find some weakness to exploit |
| 976s | in the TDC comp to pick it apart but it |
| 979s | seems both teams just stoled out and on |
| 981s | the resets |
| 982s | the kind of uh you don't really see this |
| 986s | word being used a lot for a rapid comp |
| 989s | like this for kingslayers but it's |
| 990s | almost just the attrition in the form of |
| 992s | the hull damage leak happening |
| 994s | um just allowing TD syn to just bash on |
| 996s | the same Target they were bashing |
| 998s | through and just keep securing those |
| 1000s | high point value kills |
| 1002s | yeah I am reading in local that |
| 1003s | apparently the Goon swarm typhoon |
| 1005s | disconnected whether or not that's true |
| 1007s | or something we'll have to check the |
| 1009s | logs for but a really rough time for |
| 1011s | them if that is the case and uh yeah we |
| 1014s | see the uh we see a couple of the the |
| 1017s | support ships here just getting mocked |
| 1019s | up wow |
| 1022s | going for the boundary it seems there he |
| 1025s | goes I think he reached 200 something |
| 1027s | we'll get a confirmation on that uh just |
| 1029s | the Magus left on the goonside form mop |
| 1032s | up |
| 1033s | um he might be going for a boundary but |
| 1034s | he's just hovering at the edge right now |
| 1037s | yeah this this kind of comp from TDC |
| 1039s | there's something we couldn't have seen |
| 1040s | in previous tournaments due to the uh |
| 1043s | three the three of any shift class rule |
| 1045s | it'd be interesting to see if we see |
| 1047s | anything more like this in the future |
| 1048s | especially with the ex the Buffs to |
| 1050s | extenders and plates on battleships you |
| 1053s | can see just how much ehp TD sins still |
| 1056s | have left on their composition here that |
| 1059s | said we are now at time so let's hand it |
| 1061s | back to the studio and uh dissect this a |
| 1063s | little further |
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| 1128s | Federation had the victory in the palm |
| 1131s | of their hands and then they just could |
| 1134s | not hold on to it and allowed themselves |
| 1136s | to be defeated by four battleships uh |
| 1139s | that's 81 points in forsha quite a |
| 1142s | strong showing there from tdcin the dark |
| 1145s | space initiative AKA scary Wormhole |
| 1147s | people uh mystical mites what happened |
| 1149s | there to the goons it looked like they |
| 1151s | were in such a good position at the |
| 1152s | start they had killed off a couple of |
| 1154s | support ships they had really lost |
| 1156s | anything and then it all just went |
| 1158s | horribly wrong |
| 1160s | yeah I think they they benefited at the |
| 1163s | beginning and it looked like they were |
| 1164s | in a strong position because they were |
| 1166s | picking off ships that |
| 1167s | aren't typically armor fit |
| 1170s | um so we saw a Carrick will go down I |
| 1172s | believe |
| 1173s | um we also had the tower |
| 1175s | um so entirely possible that uh scary |
| 1178s | Wormhole people were using those ships |
| 1179s | as platforms to |
| 1183s | um Harbor I guess ewall like damps or |
| 1185s | disruptors but not the tankier ship |
| 1188s | especially against some some of the |
| 1190s | battleships that we're seeing there so |
| 1191s | they started off Strong by picking off |
| 1193s | the the weaker ships on the grid but |
| 1194s | they didn't really have anything to |
| 1196s | break through the four battleships uh |
| 1199s | that were fielded against them |
| 1201s | what do you think we're not about the |
| 1203s | choice of bringing an Executor here tech |
| 1206s | one Logistics Cruiser I mean to be fair |
| 1208s | they're going up against two tech one |
| 1209s | Logistics frigates so no one believing |
| 1211s | in the power of tech two Logistics here |
| 1213s | but do you think maybe they'd been |
| 1215s | better off um downpointing something |
| 1216s | else and bringing in an Eros |
| 1220s | not sure the triple Battleship with the |
| 1222s | um with an exec would be fine if they |
| 1225s | use those rapid heavy battleships to |
| 1226s | kill a battleship |
| 1228s | I don't know if they I don't know if |
| 1230s | they even shot about should be the start |
| 1231s | with those triple rapid Heavies they did |
| 1233s | they didn't seem to do much with it so |
| 1235s | it's like you've brought what's |
| 1236s | basically a battleship killing comp |
| 1238s | and you don't kill battleships |
| 1240s | at that point those ships were just kind |
| 1242s | of useless in space I don't think the |
| 1244s | the exact part by the way Bravo he did |
| 1247s | absolutely his best he could without |
| 1248s | that ship in that situation |
| 1249s | some ships survived longer than they |
| 1251s | should so honestly I don't think there |
| 1253s | was really a problem in the comp but |
| 1254s | especially with the exec just more if |
| 1256s | they didn't use what they had just |
| 1257s | pretty well |
| 1260s | yeah and I also wanted to jump in a |
| 1263s | little bit the cast was talked about |
| 1265s | um message they talked about the Praxis |
| 1266s | being quite a Swiss army knife of of |
| 1269s | Choice here |
| 1271s | um what do you think about that like |
| 1273s | they obviously took uh four different |
| 1274s | battleships they didn't get hit by any |
| 1276s | point inflation and do you think that |
| 1278s | that's the reason for the practice and |
| 1280s | they would have maybe preferred another |
| 1281s | typhoon or practice is strong in its own |
| 1283s | right |
| 1286s | I think the practice is actually fairly |
| 1287s | strong in its own right |
| 1289s | um the various bonuses that it gets it |
| 1291s | gets a bonus to a lot of different |
| 1292s | things so it is kind of the Swiss army |
| 1294s | knife where you can fit it towards the |
| 1296s | the purpose that you need it to fill |
| 1299s | um |
| 1300s | and it's also likely yeah the fact that |
| 1302s | they were trying to bring four |
| 1303s | battleships in the first place means |
| 1304s | that they need to go for some of the |
| 1306s | battleships that are perhaps lower |
| 1307s | pointed to allow them to actually fit in |
| 1309s | a support Wing So they couldn't |
| 1311s | necessarily Splash for you know all |
| 1313s | faction battleships for example because |
| 1315s | that would be way too expensive on the |
| 1318s | top end wouldn't allow them to actually |
| 1319s | have a support Wing at all so yeah I'm |
| 1322s | sure there was some point calculations |
| 1324s | going on when they decided to bring the |
| 1325s | Praxis but it's also yeah in this setup |
| 1327s | with missiles a very good book to bring |
| 1329s | as well |
| 1331s | uh last thing uh well not on that |
| 1333s | previous match armor caracal question |
| 1335s | mark uh seems to be an unusual Choice uh |
| 1338s | any any good reason that that would be |
| 1340s | be squeezed in there |
| 1343s | no |
| 1344s | I I even asked I was like wait a minute |
| 1346s | is there some kind of like secret matter |
| 1348s | I've not realized am I just am I just |
| 1350s | too smooth praying for this no there's |
| 1352s | no reason it's just um I don't know why |
| 1356s | there are other options please |
| 1358s | I was I was stuck |
| 1362s | yeah I was equally confused but there |
| 1364s | you go it seemed to work in this case |
| 1366s | um let's look at our next match it's |
| 1368s | going to be rusty Hyena's Clan versus |
| 1369s | the ancient uh ancients Rossi hyenas did |
| 1372s | pretty good yesterday uh pulling out I |
| 1374s | remember correctly essentially the comp |
| 1376s | that won 80 17 filmed by Hydra reloaded |
| 1379s | and flew it to great success taking a |
| 1383s | solid Victory |
| 1384s | um over someone whose name I can't |
| 1386s | remember and they're going up against |
| 1387s | the Ancients the Ancients of course |
| 1390s | um being uh chiakti and the fun Inc guys |
| 1394s | so uh some mpsi boys uh |
| 1397s | yeah Misty what do you think about Rusty |
| 1399s | humans kind of they're going to bring |
| 1400s | the same comp again or do you think |
| 1401s | we'll see something different from them |
| 1403s | I would expect that |
| 1406s | they might not necessarily bring the |
| 1408s | same comp for fear that a team may come |
| 1411s | with ships that could counter it it |
| 1412s | doesn't look like the Ancients are |
| 1414s | really respecting the comp that they |
| 1415s | brought yesterday though because they |
| 1417s | haven't banned any of the ships I |
| 1418s | believe |
| 1419s | um that were essential for that comp to |
| 1421s | work so they could very well bring the |
| 1423s | pseudo show Tinker if they wanted to |
| 1425s | um it does perform strongly as we've |
| 1427s | seen in the previous match that they |
| 1428s | played against no visual we're at one |
| 1430s | and also in the previous Alliance |
| 1432s | tournament where it also uh won in the |
| 1435s | finals so yeah they could bring it if |
| 1437s | they wanted to but they opened |
| 1438s | themselves up to be encountered |
| 1440s | yeah it looks like the Ancients really |
| 1442s | don't want to see uh heavy energy |
| 1444s | neutralizers buying both the balgar and |
| 1446s | the Armageddon |
| 1448s | um when not why ban both of them is is |
| 1450s | your comp that weak to Newt |
| 1454s | uh maybe that that could definitely be |
| 1457s | true notes or like um it's kind of like |
| 1459s | new control the way of considering it |
| 1461s | the balgoons webs and notes the |
| 1463s | Armageddon is long range notes you get |
| 1465s | can I get the same same result which is |
| 1467s | a kind of a control effect of throwing |
| 1469s | touch down even |
| 1470s | so you must be scared of something there |
| 1473s | we'll have to see what it ends up being |
| 1476s | awesome well let's find out if they are |
| 1477s | scared of something and let us go to the |
| 1479s | arena for Russia's Clan versus the |
| 1482s | Ancients with your casters Jin tan and |
| 1484s | black part pirate |
| 1495s | welcome back to the arena where we have |
| 1498s | Rusty hyenas Clan versus the Ancients |
| 1501s | with Rusty hyenas bringing a zarm zed |
| 1503s | which I believe is the first time we |
| 1505s | have seen this ship in the feeders and a |
| 1507s | pretty heavy armor setup on the bottom |
| 1509s | line with a fleet Tempest damnation a |
| 1511s | couple little small tackle ships and uh |
| 1513s | that's quite a bit of tank but what is |
| 1515s | the Ancients doing gin |
| 1517s | yeah it looks like uh you might be |
| 1519s | confused you might have seen the |
| 1520s | typhoons uh being brought earlier in |
| 1522s | kingslayer but this is in fact just a |
| 1524s | regular armor control comp because it |
| 1526s | looks like those typhoons are Cruise fit |
| 1528s | uh rather than the typical rapid heavy |
| 1530s | missile setup that we've seen and it's |
| 1532s | supported by that Blackbird and celestis |
| 1534s | uh it's going to be really on Rusty |
| 1536s | hyenas to get in on top of that |
| 1538s | Blackburn celestis and make something |
| 1540s | happen there because if they leave if |
| 1542s | they leave those Cruisers to survive |
| 1543s | later on in this game it's gonna have an |
| 1545s | extremely powerful impact on their |
| 1547s | ability to do anything with the ramp up |
| 1549s | on both the drag vac and the zamas |
| 1553s | that is true and the uh the Ancients is |
| 1555s | already putting damage into the drekovic |
| 1557s | of the Russia's hyenas Clan I am a |
| 1559s | little bit worried that they don't have |
| 1561s | a particularly large amount of DPS on |
| 1564s | their side uh the two Cruise typhoons |
| 1566s | too means like you said there's gonna be |
| 1567s | constant pressure uh Vengeance of Czech |
| 1569s | is getting tackled right now taking some |
| 1571s | nude scenes some paints but I don't know |
| 1572s | if they're gonna be able to apply damage |
| 1573s | cruise missiles are notoriously bad |
| 1574s | against assault forgets that being said |
| 1576s | he is dropping into half armor already |
| 1579s | yeah it looks like that Rapier is not |
| 1581s | doing his job um as well as he could |
| 1583s | have as all of this tackle from Rusty |
| 1585s | hyenas is barreling into their comp at |
| 1587s | once uh stopping this kite pretty much |
| 1589s | in its tracks that said the Vengeance |
| 1591s | now of uh Rusty is taking a huge amount |
| 1593s | of damage and it doesn't look like |
| 1594s | bizarre mass is going to be able to wrap |
| 1596s | him up at all probably jammed by that |
| 1597s | Blackbird uh uh whilst Silas goes down |
| 1600s | into uh low armor and the Blackbird of |
| 1602s | Freya starts to take some heat as well |
| 1604s | uh probably whoever he's jammed is |
| 1606s | shooting and Scorch Celeste as well on |
| 1607s | the drag fight going low |
| 1609s | wow and uh while they did lose the |
| 1612s | Vengeance it does look like they were |
| 1613s | able to get tackle on the entire black |
| 1614s | line or back line here and there's uh |
| 1617s | Rusty hyenas take losing their other |
| 1619s | tackle ship right there but it looks |
| 1621s | like they might actually take down this |
| 1622s | Blackbird and this Hound possibly uh |
| 1624s | ancients doing a great job splitting DPS |
| 1626s | making that zarmsad which can only rep |
| 1628s | one target at a time after really |
| 1630s | struggle here |
| 1632s | yeah I've got to say I I that Rusty |
| 1635s | needs to break something here they need |
| 1637s | to get in on top of it and uh keep |
| 1639s | holding it down uh the question is going |
| 1641s | to be what they break for after this |
| 1642s | black bird does drop uh hopefully after |
| 1644s | that does drop they're going to be able |
| 1646s | to wrap up that stap of Fleet issue keep |
| 1648s | him alive and maybe even Scorch Celeste |
| 1650s | as well no there we go that's another |
| 1651s | tackle ship down this is looking really |
| 1653s | really bad for Rusty here they no longer |
| 1655s | have a huge amount of tackle and |
| 1657s | especially fast tackle to actually |
| 1659s | spread across this Fleet which looks |
| 1662s | like it's trying to Kite from the |
| 1663s | ancients |
| 1665s | it it kind of does uh I will say that |
| 1668s | now that blackbird's down hopefully this |
| 1669s | arm is going to be able to actually get |
| 1671s | some reps and we're seeing it finally |
| 1672s | being able to start sort of working on |
| 1674s | topping off that direct effect that |
| 1675s | ramping rep very very powerful uh the |
| 1677s | Rapier on the Ancients team is actually |
| 1679s | hard tackled down and taking quite a bit |
| 1681s | of DPS now we're finally seeing uh some |
| 1683s | damage being applied from Rusty hyenas I |
| 1685s | think that Blackbird was kind of just |
| 1687s | doing Mass amounts of work to their team |
| 1689s | uh it does look like this Rapier may go |
| 1691s | down as it is being ramped on quite hard |
| 1694s | by the direct effect and it does drop |
| 1695s | and uh I don't know that could be the |
| 1698s | Turning Point the Ancients are seeming |
| 1699s | to have a little bit of trouble actually |
| 1700s | taking anything down now without their |
| 1702s | blackbird |
| 1703s | yeah yeah it just shows you the power of |
| 1706s | those control Cruisers in the start of |
| 1708s | it it looked like they were pretty much |
| 1709s | able to to do as they pleased uh but |
| 1711s | once Rusty hyenas were able to identify |
| 1713s | and Tackle down those crucial crucial |
| 1715s | disruption pieces |
| 1717s | um |
| 1718s | it became difficult for them to then in |
| 1720s | turn break things that said the Mala is |
| 1723s | finally going down it looks like I can't |
| 1725s | seem quite what he's holding on to here |
| 1726s | uh it looks like he's holding on to the |
| 1728s | scythefly issue of ketsy so just keeping |
| 1731s | some tackle away from the rest of his |
| 1732s | Fleet |
| 1733s | um |
| 1734s | yeah that's a curious Choice I'm not |
| 1736s | sure why you'd go for the Maller in this |
| 1737s | case but maybe you're just trying to uh |
| 1738s | kill off some more tackle and keep that |
| 1740s | kite going uh that said it's not |
| 1743s | stopping the heavy DPS look at them |
| 1745s | they're right on top of this Fleet now |
| 1748s | yeah it might have been the only Target |
| 1749s | that they really had tackled down uh we |
| 1751s | are still seeing ancient slowly take |
| 1752s | stuff down there's two Cruise typhoons |
| 1754s | just are applying constant damage here |
| 1756s | but the oniros of LAX is now tackled and |
| 1760s | that might be the beginning of the end |
| 1762s | for them we will see here uh the typhoon |
| 1765s | is slowly working his way over and |
| 1767s | starting to apply some pretty heavy |
| 1768s | damage to that are near so just dropping |
| 1770s | into low armor probably about to die |
| 1772s | here and at that point I mean losing |
| 1774s | your logic like disarm the damnation the |
| 1776s | drekovic and the Tempest Fleet Rusty |
| 1778s | hyena still has their entire top end and |
| 1780s | the Ancients is about to lose the |
| 1782s | sonorous it does drop and uh I don't |
| 1785s | know if the game's still afoot |
| 1787s | yeah you really have to question the |
| 1788s | positioning of the neros there I'm not |
| 1790s | sure why he was sitting in the middle of |
| 1791s | his blob and not you know uh 20 30 |
| 1793s | kilometers ahead so that the typhoon |
| 1795s | Fleet issues could have used their newts |
| 1797s | and things like that to help soak that |
| 1799s | pressure up we can see the uh heretic |
| 1801s | they're getting slapped in a second this |
| 1803s | Hound's probably not going to be far |
| 1804s | behind it and the celestis is dropping |
| 1806s | quickly as well Ah that's what it looked |
| 1809s | so good in the early game there for the |
| 1810s | Ancients they were able to do so so much |
| 1813s | with that disruption core but they just |
| 1815s | weren't able to keep it alive into the |
| 1817s | late game and uh snowball that Advantage |
| 1819s | as well as they'd hoped |
| 1822s | yeah they are they're starting to drop |
| 1824s | ships incredibly fast here uh you know |
| 1826s | honestly as soon as that Blackbird went |
| 1827s | down things got so rough for the |
| 1829s | Ancients and |
| 1830s | um I I'm kind of curious here like if |
| 1833s | these typhoons maybe start kiting away |
| 1834s | none of the typhoons are actually |
| 1835s | tackled right now with cruise missiles |
| 1837s | they can hit the entire Arena so I'm |
| 1839s | kind of thinking like if they start |
| 1841s | kiting here if they get away from |
| 1842s | everything they're actually playing a |
| 1844s | lot of damage to that drekovic and they |
| 1845s | still kind of have a chance here uh the |
| 1848s | points are not in a particularly uh good |
| 1851s | spot for them but as this Scythe fluid |
| 1853s | issue is starting to drop but I don't |
| 1855s | know like typhoon cruise missile damage |
| 1857s | are still pretty good and maybe if they |
| 1858s | like try and snipe those arms at or |
| 1860s | something here but you know that being |
| 1862s | said uh the typhoons do not actually at |
| 1865s | least isca is now tackled pretty hard |
| 1866s | here uh maybe too little too late I'm |
| 1868s | not sure if they don't they might not |
| 1870s | even have mwds they're not going that |
| 1872s | fast here and uh you know we're seeing |
| 1874s | the just very good tart calling from |
| 1876s | Rusty hyenas and very good adapting to |
| 1878s | what looked like a rough game to start |
| 1880s | again a really unusual Choice here from |
| 1883s | Rusty hyenas that's played massive |
| 1884s | dividends in that ham damn Nation uh |
| 1887s | it's typically seen as a really really |
| 1888s | tanky really slow deliberate ship but |
| 1891s | it's put in work versus this composition |
| 1893s | just about able to outrun the typhoon |
| 1895s | Fleet issues and force things to screen |
| 1897s | it constantly and everything that's |
| 1899s | tried to screen it has gotten tackled |
| 1901s | down in return and died as a result of |
| 1903s | that |
| 1905s | yeah so it's a little surprising uh |
| 1907s | being outrun by a damn nation is usually |
| 1909s | not a particularly good thing as they |
| 1911s | are not notorious for being particularly |
| 1913s | fast ships and uh I don't know Russell |
| 1916s | Haynes did a very very good job of |
| 1918s | making correct Target callings we've |
| 1920s | seen them play very well so far uh |
| 1922s | they're now obviously working on taking |
| 1924s | this typhoon down but uh what what could |
| 1927s | the Ancients have done a little |
| 1928s | differently here was was there any like |
| 1930s | key points maybe screening the Blackbird |
| 1934s | um yeah I mean it was really it was |
| 1935s | gonna always gonna be really difficult |
| 1937s | for them to screen it just with the |
| 1938s | sheer amount of tackle that Rusty were |
| 1940s | bringing to this grid uh especially with |
| 1942s | that armor skybreaker and a few other |
| 1944s | ships that are just so so hard to deal |
| 1946s | with effectively when you have |
| 1948s | um when you have Crews as your main DPS |
| 1950s | because Cruisers just do not apply to |
| 1952s | frigates at all it's not the same as a |
| 1955s | turret ship where you can match |
| 1956s | transversal maybe get a few lucky shots |
| 1958s | off and uh kill it through that these |
| 1961s | typhoons are pretty much only going to |
| 1962s | be doing 100 200 DPS to these frigates |
| 1965s | on the burning |
| 1967s | um |
| 1968s | maybe maybe they could have made a burn |
| 1970s | to the mjd beacons and used that to buy |
| 1972s | themselves just a little bit more time |
| 1974s | and maybe they could have pressured that |
| 1975s | Zar Master as well I'm surprised to not |
| 1977s | ever have only seen seen it take a |
| 1979s | couple of volleys through Shield |
| 1982s | um when they should have been able to |
| 1983s | shoot it for pretty much the entire |
| 1984s | match it didn't look like they were |
| 1985s | heavily damped down or anything that |
| 1987s | would prevent them from uh actually |
| 1990s | are putting their guns onto it |
| 1993s | yeah that's an interesting call is it |
| 1995s | Rusty uh actually brought almost zero e |
| 1998s | War um but there's a little bit of newts |
| 2000s | coming out from them and that's about it |
| 2001s | so uh you know the Ancients trying to |
| 2004s | bring some kind of Eeyore obviously that |
| 2006s | Blackbird was very very effective right |
| 2007s | off the bat I believe that it was |
| 2009s | jamming them out and that's what caused |
| 2011s | all of those small ships to die but you |
| 2013s | know once a blackbird in this lessons |
| 2014s | were gone I mean nothing else fell from |
| 2016s | the USD Hyena's Clan and you know |
| 2018s | they're just kind of mopping up here |
| 2019s | taking down this last typhoon Fleet |
| 2021s | issue trying to finish it off before the |
| 2022s | timer goes which I believe they probably |
| 2024s | will uh very very good showing didn't uh |
| 2029s | I don't know they've kind of been |
| 2030s | proving that they're a team to pay |
| 2032s | attention to there's good fights are |
| 2033s | starting to go out and local and |
| 2035s | yeah I don't know not not too much else |
| 2037s | to say about this one |
| 2039s | yeah I have to say it's a really |
| 2040s | interesting comp that we've seen brought |
| 2042s | here by Rusty the drekovac bizarre Mass |
| 2044s | the damnation a lot of ships we don't |
| 2046s | see very often but used to incredible |
| 2048s | effect here because they've built the |
| 2050s | rest of the comp around it they're using |
| 2051s | that 10 best Fleet issue as another big |
| 2054s | point of uh disruption it runs in first |
| 2056s | it's a really really fast Battleship uh |
| 2059s | and they've been able to use its |
| 2060s | Grapplers and its heavy newts to just |
| 2062s | look stuff down and allow those ships to |
| 2064s | continually apply their DPS which is |
| 2066s | normally its problem |
| 2069s | um normally sorry normally the problem |
| 2070s | of the damnation of the drag vac is that |
| 2072s | they get kited away from or they get |
| 2073s | screened and as a result of that they |
| 2075s | can't really do anything |
| 2078s | um what do you think about that approach |
| 2080s | from Rusty hyenas to start the match |
| 2081s | though BPP I thought it was really good |
| 2084s | that they actually LED with their |
| 2085s | Cruisers and Then followed up with their |
| 2087s | frigates they sort of baited those the |
| 2089s | ancient uh counter tackles into going |
| 2091s | for the Cruisers and not tackling the |
| 2094s | frigates |
| 2096s | uh it was it was really good we also |
| 2098s | it's uh both this and the last Rusty hey |
| 2100s | in this game they're tackling small ship |
| 2102s | Wing was pretty spectacular |
| 2105s | um just very very good play like they |
| 2106s | clearly practice and actually understand |
| 2108s | uh the different metas the typhoon Fleet |
| 2110s | of character is actually going for the |
| 2112s | boundary and about to hit it which does |
| 2113s | prove that it did have an mwd and they |
| 2115s | could have been kiting this entire time |
| 2117s | they just chose not to uh with that it |
| 2119s | explodes right on the edge of the |
| 2121s | boundary and we will go back to the desk |
| 2125s | bro remember me |
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| 2155s | forever |
| 2156s | [Applause] |
| 2158s | [Music] |
| 2161s | [Applause] |
| 2169s | [Music] |
| 2184s | thank you |
| 2186s | foreign |
| 2192s | [Music] |
| 2206s | ERS Clan there taking that victory over |
| 2209s | the Ancients and going to nil on uh on |
| 2213s | the trials thus far they have faith in |
| 2216s | the rust some might even say in Rust |
| 2219s | they trust and it seems to be paying off |
| 2220s | for them uh mystical Mighty looks like |
| 2222s | Russian's Clan have been performing |
| 2224s | Pretty strongly from what we saw |
| 2226s | yesterday and what we've seen today uh |
| 2227s | could there be maybe one of the sleeper |
| 2229s | favorites to get out of the feeders |
| 2232s | yeah I mean based on their performance |
| 2234s | so far and based on the performance of |
| 2236s | other teams that we've seen so far I |
| 2238s | would definitely rank Rusty hyenas up |
| 2240s | there as one of the teams I'd expect to |
| 2241s | make it through into the main tournament |
| 2245s | awesome uh we saw some interesting ship |
| 2248s | choices and to be honest it looked like |
| 2249s | the Ancients were putting uh Rusty |
| 2251s | hangers under quite a lot of pressure at |
| 2252s | the start ancients choosing to bring a |
| 2254s | significant amount of Ebor the control |
| 2256s | bar was very very high they had both |
| 2258s | damps and ECM coming out of that |
| 2261s | Blackbird of course |
| 2263s | um Wingnut in terms of the choice of |
| 2265s | ships for Rusty Haynes they chose to |
| 2267s | bring us arms ad which is um a bit of an |
| 2270s | unusual Choice some would say why would |
| 2273s | you bring that over say uh a neros |
| 2277s | it is both incredibly tanky |
| 2279s | self-sustaining and also can rep one |
| 2282s | ship very well |
| 2284s | but of course the weakness being the |
| 2286s | moment you shoot anything else it sucks |
| 2288s | and I'm not a big fan of it |
| 2290s | but it's for that situation it can be a |
| 2293s | very good a very good ship I think some |
| 2296s | things maybe uh kingslay can rip to a |
| 2298s | battleship work and then wrap it up in |
| 2299s | time but it's it's got its purpose for |
| 2302s | sure but I'm not a fan of it |
| 2304s | yeah one of the one of the ways it does |
| 2306s | that uh single Target wrapping so well |
| 2308s | is um much like the drakovic the |
| 2311s | zarmazad Izzy spilly boy so when it puts |
| 2314s | its uh primary single rep on a Target it |
| 2317s | wraps a small amount and every cycle it |
| 2319s | rests a little bit more a little bit |
| 2321s | more and a little bit more until it reps |
| 2322s | quite a lot |
| 2323s | every single cycle but you're right that |
| 2326s | does take time to spill up so under |
| 2328s | front loaded DPS like something like |
| 2330s | kingslayer and that might just not have |
| 2332s | time to reach that full spool however if |
| 2335s | you can get past that initial uh slow |
| 2337s | rep maybe just for my local tank |
| 2339s | overheating for example then it can be |
| 2342s | incredibly hard to break something and |
| 2344s | it can force the other team to have to |
| 2346s | swap off earlier than they perhaps would |
| 2347s | want to Mystical might |
| 2350s | um we saw a couple of other things being |
| 2352s | deployed in that match specifically |
| 2353s | those ECM bolts and the uh the dams they |
| 2358s | are very powerful this year obviously |
| 2360s | because we can run scripted e-war ECM |
| 2362s | doesn't really change do you think that |
| 2364s | that's what kind of gave the entrance a |
| 2366s | bit of a leg up at the start when they |
| 2367s | were deploying so much control |
| 2369s | yeah for sure I mean when the match |
| 2372s | first began uh I believe the Ancients |
| 2375s | um |
| 2376s | began to put the damage into the |
| 2378s | dracovac that was burning in uh the Zam |
| 2381s | was damped and jammed by I think two or |
| 2385s | three different ships |
| 2387s | um on that initial burn-in so we saw the |
| 2388s | direct slowly dropping past half armor |
| 2390s | and by that point no reps had come out |
| 2393s | from that zone |
| 2394s | um the zom actually had to burn into the |
| 2396s | director that could basically sit on top |
| 2397s | of him to be able to actually start |
| 2399s | spalling and we saw various times |
| 2401s | throughout that match where the Zam |
| 2403s | positioning made or broke |
| 2406s | um where the ships lived or died so the |
| 2408s | more later on while it managed to catch |
| 2410s | that Draco back earlier in the match the |
| 2412s | Mauler was primaried later on and it was |
| 2414s | kinda surviving it was slowly dying and |
| 2417s | then the Zam burnt too far away from his |
| 2419s | friend lost lock and then it immediately |
| 2422s | fell apart so |
| 2424s | um it requires or it forces teams that |
| 2427s | it's being used against to again think |
| 2429s | about their positioning a lot more |
| 2430s | communicate a lot more with their |
| 2431s | teammates and to use as we saw with the |
| 2434s | sky breaker some of those remote sensors |
| 2436s | boosters that you can fit to your ships |
| 2439s | in the tournament setting |
| 2441s | awesome and one last thing to talk about |
| 2442s | in that previous match |
| 2444s | um winged up the commentators mentioned |
| 2446s | it but positioning in uh the alliance |
| 2449s | certain matches we saw that aniros get |
| 2450s | tackled right amongst everybody else |
| 2453s | you know what do we mean when we refer |
| 2455s | to positioning and why perhaps was that |
| 2456s | not the best move from him |
| 2459s | basically positioning is to like Place |
| 2461s | yourself where you want to be compared |
| 2462s | to your team and the opposing team now |
| 2464s | when leonoris got caught he wasn't |
| 2466s | hiding behind his team wasn't hiding out |
| 2468s | of the way he was right in the middle of |
| 2470s | his team as if he's in a tinker which |
| 2472s | he's not |
| 2473s | and that's why out of the entire team is |
| 2475s | around there was a typhoon Fleet there |
| 2476s | was a typhoon there of Warships around |
| 2478s | him they tackled him because of course |
| 2480s | they would that's the thing you want to |
| 2481s | kill he's right there all he had to do |
| 2483s | was burn 20 kilometers further back and |
| 2485s | he wasn't next to the Border he was 60 |
| 2486s | kilometers away |
| 2487s | if you just move what 20 kilometers you |
| 2489s | maybe maybe even 10 that distance would |
| 2491s | have been enough for the typhoon to |
| 2493s | maybe screen the guy off or for someone |
| 2494s | else to do it and for him to not be |
| 2496s | primary because the moment he died the |
| 2498s | match was already going that way but it |
| 2500s | instantly ended it it was the moment he |
| 2501s | died it was match over there was nothing |
| 2503s | they could do |
| 2504s | so you gotta you don't know where your |
| 2505s | team is where the enemy team is and |
| 2508s | where you want to be which is kind of an |
| 2510s | interesting one to try and think of is |
| 2511s | where do you actually want to be in your |
| 2513s | ship and it takes practice that's all |
| 2515s | you can do for that is just practice |
| 2516s | where is the best spot where's The Sweet |
| 2517s | Spot |
| 2519s | yeah we spoke a little bit uh yesterday |
| 2521s | about how good having a really strong |
| 2523s | Logistics pilot is for your team and the |
| 2526s | power up that I can essentially provide |
| 2528s | but let's look forward to our next match |
| 2530s | so um we're going into the The crucial |
| 2533s | um tribe at this point and we can look |
| 2535s | at the standings for that particular |
| 2537s | tribe and see what's happening so this |
| 2539s | is where everyone's sitting at the |
| 2540s | minute it's spent two groups because of |
| 2542s | Pizza Time diplomacy have got one win |
| 2545s | and a roster of 28. for clarity what |
| 2548s | that means is that they've got 28 points |
| 2551s | of Minotaur ships so if there's a tie |
| 2553s | Break |
| 2554s | um the number of Minotaur ships that you |
| 2555s | bring the points worth of that is |
| 2557s | actually beneficial and it can be used |
| 2558s | for the tiebreaker so they're sitting at |
| 2560s | the top of group a |
| 2562s | uh Group B hidden Leaf Village ninja |
| 2565s | um assassins sport e-squad I can't |
| 2569s | remember what they're called uh are |
| 2570s | setting one win as well with a rough |
| 2572s | score of 34. |
| 2574s | um and so far snuffed out and I've |
| 2576s | certain mind Fox Moss piglet |
| 2578s | preservation Society uh no wins we're |
| 2580s | about to see snuffed out go up against |
| 2583s | out Fox so we could see this table |
| 2586s | Shuffle up a little bit if snuffed out |
| 2587s | for example or out Fox brings a comp |
| 2591s | wins and has a rough score higher than |
| 2593s | 28 they will actually and kill 100 |
| 2595s | points they will actually take the top |
| 2597s | position in that particular bracket |
| 2598s | snapped out of course yesterday |
| 2600s | um we're very much playing their own |
| 2602s | game bringing four daimosas so we'll see |
| 2604s | if something perhaps a little bit more |
| 2606s | thought out comes today |
| 2608s | um they have chose to ban the EOS and |
| 2610s | the Gila whereas artfox are buying the |
| 2612s | balgorn and the armageddon's also |
| 2614s | looking to remove those powerful news |
| 2617s | um that mystical might do you what do |
| 2620s | you make of these bands here |
| 2624s | so |
| 2626s | from the snuffed out team it looks like |
| 2627s | again they just don't want to have to |
| 2629s | deal with any of the bonus drones |
| 2631s | um I mentioned it yesterday about |
| 2632s | banning the EOS |
| 2634s | um effectively limits how strong a drone |
| 2637s | comp can be because the EOS fulfills the |
| 2640s | role of a mobile damage platform but it |
| 2642s | also allows you to fit links or command |
| 2645s | bursts to your ship which effectively |
| 2648s | like area of effect buff your teammates |
| 2650s | around you that could be speed it could |
| 2653s | be the signature or the size of your |
| 2655s | ship it could be how much you tank or |
| 2657s | how tanky you are so these are all very |
| 2661s | important things to think about when |
| 2662s | putting together a drone comp because |
| 2664s | you need all of your ships to be |
| 2665s | contributing to the overall goal which |
| 2667s | is putting out as much damage in the |
| 2669s | form of drones as possible |
| 2671s | awesome well it's pretty much time to go |
| 2674s | to the arena and find out |
| 2676s | um if snuffed out are going to be out |
| 2678s | foxed or if they're going to bring |
| 2680s | something a little bit uh more varied |
| 2682s | than four diamonds is |
| 2684s | um I mean let's go let's go check it out |
| 2686s | with your commentators uh zozak and |
| 2688s | black bark pirate |
| 2698s | and we are back once again we've seen |
| 2700s | snuffed out versus out Fox and both |
| 2703s | teams have brought absolutely massive |
| 2705s | amounts of DPS with snuffed out green |
| 2708s | what is pretty much the classic |
| 2710s | minimatar Rush uh very heavy sleptner |
| 2712s | stabbered Fleet and you know a much |
| 2715s | better than their last one much |
| 2716s | more DPS much more thought out uh Zoo |
| 2719s | what about outfoxed |
| 2721s | alfox seems to have to bring uh some |
| 2723s | variant of that classic old-school |
| 2725s | octodaddy off obviously they're only |
| 2726s | them to the full battle cruises here due |
| 2728s | to rules but they're going to try and |
| 2729s | take advantage of those long range |
| 2731s | weapons railguns and uh beams to well |
| 2734s | actually they just could be pulses and |
| 2736s | the tracking bonus that these hulls have |
| 2738s | as well to just trying to play apply |
| 2740s | range damage right now so hopefully I |
| 2742s | can try and get touch of Scimitar in the |
| 2744s | back but um with uh it's not rushing in |
| 2747s | like that that's going to be a really |
| 2748s | hard job |
| 2750s | yeah snoft is actually burned straight |
| 2751s | towards them uh drones are flying from |
| 2753s | both sides looks like a decent |
| 2754s | combination of both EC and damaged |
| 2756s | drones already damage being applied to |
| 2758s | that Jaguar taking a huge amount of |
| 2759s | damage I almost died right off the bat |
| 2761s | snuffed out does have nothing really |
| 2764s | tackled quite yet they finally grab the |
| 2766s | stabbard fleet issue uh lots of damage |
| 2768s | Supply in all the ways Outfox being very |
| 2769s | very smart and burning shred away as |
| 2771s | fast as they possibly can here but uh |
| 2773s | surprisingly nothing's died yet I was |
| 2775s | actually expecting ship explosions in |
| 2776s | the first 20 seconds here |
| 2778s | yeah looks like a huge easy swarm of |
| 2780s | drones coming at you from snuff Soleil |
| 2781s | playing that RNG game with just Mass |
| 2783s | numbers here on these drones the drones |
| 2785s | uh having this gem cycle time than |
| 2787s | normal ECM but just counting for it |
| 2789s | making up for learning numbers uh alfox |
| 2791s | uh went to back burned rightful at MGD |
| 2793s | so I wonder if they're going to make a |
| 2795s | play but obviously realizing they don't |
| 2796s | they can't really group up they're going |
| 2798s | to have stragglers court to intercept |
| 2799s | with scrams uh catch them and split up |
| 2801s | their team so opting for the kite |
| 2803s | varying to the side there but still |
| 2805s | obviously sacrificing a few of their |
| 2807s | team and the background there that's |
| 2809s | going to be picked off now |
| 2811s | yeah it's a very good play on out Fox's |
| 2813s | team like they know that they can't |
| 2815s | really survive that much if they get |
| 2816s | tackled at losing the first ship of the |
| 2818s | match to stab or Fleet issue but it does |
| 2819s | look like they will take Tau ad Scythe |
| 2821s | Fleet issue who is a kind of a notorious |
| 2823s | low-sec player uh he's barely holding on |
| 2826s | actually in the rarfox is also tackle |
| 2828s | taking some serious damage again out Fox |
| 2830s | playing this very very smart most of |
| 2832s | them are on the mjd beacon as you said |
| 2834s | uh their executor though is actually |
| 2835s | tackled in between the rest of the fleet |
| 2838s | and snuffed out which is not a place you |
| 2840s | want to be out Fox having trouble |
| 2841s | actually finishing off the Scythe Fleet |
| 2843s | so not really sure what's going on with |
| 2845s | that probably need to maybe even move in |
| 2847s | a little bit or switch to a different |
| 2848s | Target because they seem to be tunnel |
| 2849s | visioning a bit here |
| 2851s | yeah I'm not sure they look like they |
| 2852s | got some fantastic hits on towel on the |
| 2854s | side Fleet there um but might just be |
| 2856s | the Panic of the execure we don't know |
| 2857s | what's happening in the coms but you |
| 2859s | could see a bit of Shield damage going |
| 2860s | on to this film on the soft side there |
| 2862s | of Matt so uh might be the execure |
| 2865s | trying to get some Panic tackle freed |
| 2866s | off of him uh causing that split damage |
| 2868s | to occur and leading to the side Fleet |
| 2870s | to uh live right now but uh that as I'm |
| 2873s | saying this is execure just seems to be |
| 2875s | willingly driving himself back into the |
| 2876s | hot zone right now |
| 2878s | you know the Exeter is doing that but |
| 2880s | the Scimitar and the snuffed outside is |
| 2882s | actually taking quite a bit of damage it |
| 2884s | doesn't look like Outfox has switched to |
| 2885s | full damage or long range and they |
| 2887s | actually have Berserker web drones out |
| 2890s | so the web effects you're seeing on that |
| 2892s | Scimitar is drones they have no way of |
| 2895s | actually clearing it and the long range |
| 2896s | damage of that battle cruiser looks like |
| 2898s | it might actually cause a lot to trade |
| 2900s | here I don't know if it's too little too |
| 2901s | late though as the saber fleets are both |
| 2904s | down the auger Navy is about to drop and |
| 2906s | the Scimitar is barely living in half |
| 2908s | structure right now should be dropping |
| 2909s | any second here I believe it should be |
| 2911s | out of ASB charges and the Scimitar does |
| 2913s | go down but snuffed out is still running |
| 2914s | nine members of their team out Fox |
| 2916s | losing almost half of theirs so far |
| 2919s | and let's keep an eye on that broadcast |
| 2920s | last night I'm going to suspect it's |
| 2922s | going to be an actual ASP there so he's |
| 2924s | probably just waiting because it's going |
| 2925s | to be a huge amount of raw boost there |
| 2926s | but we still have to remember that |
| 2928s | snowfall has two uh slept nears there I |
| 2930s | believe and those will also be having |
| 2932s | xlsb like local tanks so even though |
| 2934s | they lost their lodgy they're still in |
| 2936s | quite a dominated position here to just |
| 2938s | roll and still have that survivability |
| 2940s | and apply the DPS |
| 2941s | um as a safely does go down but a DPS |
| 2943s | oscillator uh but not much I think Fox |
| 2946s | can do yes they finally lose the harbing |
| 2948s | chairs so one of their core DPS finally |
| 2950s | being stripped off the grid lodgy down |
| 2952s | and the sacrificial token Badger also |
| 2955s | going to half armor |
| 2957s | the uh the badger I believe is uh has |
| 2960s | Target painters fit as well as probably |
| 2962s | remote sibo's and other things like that |
| 2963s | uh and just being soloed down by a |
| 2966s | spiffle right now in the back I guess uh |
| 2968s | decent use of two points if that's |
| 2970s | really what you want to do again alfox |
| 2972s | is doing a decent job surviving here uh |
| 2974s | they do still have a decent amount of |
| 2975s | DPS but the British Navy issue is |
| 2977s | tackled they're not really applying to |
| 2978s | anything I guess they're trying to clear |
| 2980s | the Sipple of Matt Riley uh not really |
| 2984s | sure it's probably the only thing they |
| 2985s | can really shoot here uh I don't think |
| 2987s | they're gonna do particularly well here |
| 2989s | unless that brutix is Hull tanked so now |
| 2991s | it does not look like it is |
| 2993s | now the meme of the whole tank does not |
| 2995s | live here but as we can see a second XL |
| 2996s | base charge on Instinct there and the |
| 2998s | broadsword |
| 2999s | um so just as we suspected that local |
| 3001s | tank coming through meaning uh |
| 3004s | that alfox can do it they can at the end |
| 3007s | of the day here but they're still gonna |
| 3008s | have to deal with a broadsword two step |
| 3010s | nurse with all those xlbs charges while |
| 3012s | having a ridiculous amount of damage |
| 3014s | coming their way so |
| 3015s | um good or still Todd Fox getting the |
| 3017s | pickles here uh getting what points they |
| 3019s | can always counts for tiebreakers if |
| 3021s | there ever is a tie breaker |
| 3023s | um but still unfortunately not looking |
| 3025s | uh too good for them Omen going down but |
| 3029s | powerful position here from snuff right |
| 3030s | now with a powerful Rush featuring the |
| 3032s | slippers again |
| 3034s | yeah it really is and you know like you |
| 3036s | said I like I think the two sleptner's |
| 3038s | alone at this point probably could win |
| 3039s | this match uh Oman Navy issue from out |
| 3042s | Fox going down again you know you gotta |
| 3044s | gotta give a shout out to Outfox like |
| 3045s | they did play this very very well all |
| 3048s | things considered I do think they |
| 3049s | probably should have gone after that |
| 3050s | Scimitar right off the bat but uh the |
| 3053s | individual piloting here being smart |
| 3055s | staying spread out you know it's all |
| 3056s | pretty good a pretty good plan they're |
| 3059s | doing their best I don't think they're |
| 3060s | gonna win but hey who knows like there's |
| 3062s | still four minutes left maybe they can |
| 3063s | kite out all of these ships uh decent |
| 3065s | amount of damage coming out from them |
| 3067s | still just just really unfortunate I |
| 3069s | almost think that they maybe got |
| 3070s | countercombed a little bit here just |
| 3072s | with that Minotaur Rush um they might |
| 3074s | take the Sipple down here at the end too |
| 3076s | just doing a little bit more damage but |
| 3078s | uh Ashley trainer is now tackled and |
| 3080s | that will not be alive for much longer |
| 3083s | so very interesting thing uh SCI Fleet |
| 3086s | is you might consider really powerful |
| 3088s | some people might say more better than |
| 3090s | the starboard Fleet you see actually |
| 3091s | China going down there so they're just |
| 3093s | going to melt up it's not lost Harbinger |
| 3094s | Navy issue |
| 3096s | um but we saw snuff bringing a massive |
| 3098s | cloud of EC drones to the field so uh we |
| 3102s | can definitely contribute the wind |
| 3103s | towards that EC Jones has definitely |
| 3105s | been harassment but the one difference |
| 3107s | as well between a starboard Fleet issue |
| 3108s | and a side Fleet issue is that the |
| 3110s | stepper can uh field a lot more drones |
| 3113s | at once it's I think it's like a 20 or |
| 3116s | 25 MBA on the sci Fleet versus a 40 MB |
| 3119s | on the stabber so just tiny little |
| 3121s | things that teams might consider if |
| 3122s | they're going sometimes on all day on a |
| 3124s | strategy like EC Jones for instance |
| 3128s | no it's a very very good point to make |
| 3130s | there uh it definitely it definitely |
| 3132s | does make sense why they brought the |
| 3133s | styrofleed snuff did bring a very like |
| 3135s | they I think their ship choices are very |
| 3137s | based around drones and the EC setup |
| 3139s | like you said because you know we don't |
| 3141s | really see a lot like a very stabber |
| 3142s | Fleet heavy uh end right there so uh not |
| 3147s | sure how much damage or how much uh EC |
| 3150s | the drones did do |
| 3152s | um I honestly I think the snuff damage |
| 3153s | was high enough that it wouldn't have |
| 3155s | mattered if that executor was jammed or |
| 3156s | not anyways but they were definitely |
| 3158s | prepared much much more thought out comp |
| 3160s | than their four die most that they used |
| 3162s | yesterday |
| 3163s | I think if I was at Fox tier I'd be |
| 3166s | wishing I just somehow managed to fit a |
| 3168s | single battleship in here |
| 3170s | um smart bombs is something you |
| 3171s | generally don't see on anything sub |
| 3173s | Battleship and I'm just thinking like if |
| 3174s | you were a battleship uh something like |
| 3176s | you know elishak a uh any of you know |
| 3179s | bar gas something like that just one |
| 3181s | psycho a smart bomb just watching all |
| 3183s | those easy drones just explode around |
| 3185s | you would have been so satisfying to see |
| 3188s | um but they just had no way to deal with |
| 3189s | it sometimes you can have a ship like a |
| 3191s | jackdaw which can just uh that's one of |
| 3193s | the cases where you would actually be |
| 3194s | ungrouping your launchers and just |
| 3196s | single shotting every little drone and |
| 3198s | just trying to shred them normally a |
| 3199s | tactic people would also use to get rid |
| 3201s | of rep John codes |
| 3203s | um but here if the ECS were actually |
| 3205s | putting a lot of pressure here on odd |
| 3206s | Fox I don't see any reliable way out Fox |
| 3208s | would have had to deal with it they |
| 3210s | would have just had to run and bear and |
| 3211s | suffer the consequences of the lack of |
| 3213s | options on their side |
| 3216s | if that is true and uh with that the |
| 3219s | harbinger of Charles is now dropping |
| 3221s | down I believe we will be very shortly |
| 3223s | throwing this back to the desk but |
| 3226s | snuffed out does win 85 points to zero |
| 3229s | on out Fox side and with that we'll send |
| 3231s | it back to the desk |
| 3234s | [Music] |
| 3258s | what's gonna happen here because Derek |
| 3260s | is going to undock the Titan and Bridge |
| 3262s | us |
| 3279s | there are a lot of fun dice games but |
| 3281s | rolling the number you need to win is |
| 3283s | pure luck or is it |
| 3285s | [Music] |
| 3294s | snuffed out foxing their opponents there |
| 3297s | and taking a pretty convincing win uh I |
| 3301s | think yesterday when we slightly dunked |
| 3304s | on snuffed out it's comp choice they |
| 3307s | were the embodiment of that and I took |
| 3309s | that personally meme because they went |
| 3311s | away and they came back with something |
| 3312s | that seemed to be a lot more thought out |
| 3314s | a lot more uh well executed and an |
| 3317s | actual decent comp so well done to |
| 3320s | snuffed out there on that one I'm told |
| 3322s | reliably by jintan member of artfork |
| 3324s | that the comp that we just witnessed |
| 3326s | being fielded it's called The Quad mummy |
| 3329s | as a bit of a throwback to the Octo |
| 3331s | Daddy from Alliance tournament 16. at |
| 3334s | some point we have to have a meeting of |
| 3336s | uh the people who name Alliance |
| 3338s | tournament archetypes and we need to |
| 3339s | discuss things because I have some |
| 3341s | issues |
| 3342s | um mystical mate what went wrong for the |
| 3344s | Outfox team |
| 3346s | yeah I mean it's not an ideal setup that |
| 3349s | they were running |
| 3351s | um was it quad mummy into |
| 3353s | um they wanted to be able to kite they |
| 3355s | wanted to be able to burn back and |
| 3356s | project their damage and the snuff comp |
| 3358s | was very much about getting on top of |
| 3360s | them as quickly as possible |
| 3361s | um and shutting that down |
| 3363s | um they did play well I think there are |
| 3365s | a couple things that they perhaps could |
| 3366s | have done a little bit better and they |
| 3368s | did a good job of initially pulling away |
| 3370s | from the snuff core while forcing the |
| 3371s | snuff tackle away from them by primering |
| 3374s | them but when it came time for them to |
| 3376s | turn and you know stay away from the |
| 3378s | arena Edge |
| 3380s | um I think Ashley Traynor in the estate |
| 3382s | band |
| 3383s | right from my camera angle I mean you |
| 3386s | know directions in space and the rest of |
| 3388s | the team burned left |
| 3390s | um so that makes it a lot harder for |
| 3392s | them to pick primaries |
| 3393s | um and position themselves appropriately |
| 3395s | to shoot the same Target which may have |
| 3398s | contributed to them swapping to that |
| 3399s | Scimitar a little bit later in the match |
| 3401s | than perhaps they intended so |
| 3404s | you know I think with better positioning |
| 3407s | faster swapping of primaries they would |
| 3409s | have been in a much better place to win |
| 3410s | that match |
| 3414s | um it looked like this was going to be a |
| 3415s | hard comp for them to kite around anyway |
| 3419s | um for those of you who maybe knew the |
| 3420s | alliance tournament we're in an arena |
| 3421s | 125 kilometers uh radius from the |
| 3425s | central Beacon |
| 3426s | um if you exceed 125 kilometers you are |
| 3429s | automatically exploded by the hand of |
| 3431s | God and that means kiting you have this |
| 3434s | artificial wall it's not like you can |
| 3436s | just keep running aligned Sun whatever |
| 3438s | in like you can do in TQ and let people |
| 3440s | chase after you you have to eventually |
| 3442s | turn and that makes it a bit hard to get |
| 3445s | away from people uh bring that as |
| 3447s | mentioned this comp brought by stuff |
| 3449s | seem to have quite a lot of fast ships |
| 3451s | that were you know it's going to make it |
| 3452s | hard to kite do you think uh this was |
| 3454s | almost like the worst case for Outfox in |
| 3457s | this particular matchup |
| 3458s | kind of yeah as you said the arena is a |
| 3460s | certain size but honestly they could |
| 3462s | probably have doubled it and they still |
| 3464s | would have been in trouble because about |
| 3465s | like seven of the ships maybe even nine |
| 3468s | of the ten if you click accept news are |
| 3470s | fast enough to catch that comp |
| 3471s | so basically the entire opposing team is |
| 3474s | tackle |
| 3475s | so like you can run as much as you want |
| 3477s | they're going to catch you I feel like |
| 3478s | they needed to know that you're not |
| 3480s | going to run away you can't get away |
| 3481s | from this you need to pick something now |
| 3483s | and go for it if they had maybe like |
| 3485s | Nuke the Scimitar within like the start |
| 3487s | of the match they could have maybe then |
| 3489s | started peeling off tackle you know |
| 3490s | start killing them off but because they |
| 3492s | spent so long before they finally |
| 3493s | committed to that they were just they |
| 3496s | they pretty much just separated when |
| 3497s | killed it didn't really matter anymore |
| 3498s | you know so this needs to know that |
| 3501s | you're going to get tackled you can't |
| 3502s | run you I know you want to the comps |
| 3504s | built for that you can't do it so you |
| 3507s | have to understand that it's going to |
| 3508s | happen and then how to react to it hey |
| 3510s | battle Badger is op so |
| 3512s | I do like the choice of the battle |
| 3514s | Badger |
| 3515s | um I I'm always pleased to see one when |
| 3517s | it appears on the field much like the uh |
| 3519s | the battle Ibis uh we all appreciate |
| 3521s | those mystical mate uh if you're going |
| 3524s | to kite around surely you might be |
| 3526s | better off with like Shield battle |
| 3528s | Cruisers why why armor here |
| 3532s | so when it comes to kiting typically you |
| 3536s | know on TQ you'll see plenty of of |
| 3538s | Shield kiting ships because they'll have |
| 3540s | a lot of damage they'll be super fast to |
| 3542s | battle around the grid |
| 3543s | um they'll have the benefit of the the |
| 3545s | passive Shield regen as well if they |
| 3546s | take damage and they're able to warp |
| 3548s | away and then come back later |
| 3550s | um you can't walk away from the arena |
| 3552s | um so that's already one positive I |
| 3554s | suppose of a shield kite ship on TQ |
| 3556s | removed and the other benefit with an |
| 3559s | armor compensating is the ability to fit |
| 3561s | tracking computers or guidance computers |
| 3564s | in your med slots so effectively this |
| 3567s | works much like a |
| 3569s | tracking disruptor does in concept where |
| 3571s | you're able to script it to buff instead |
| 3574s | of disrupt |
| 3575s | um a certain attribute on your weapon |
| 3577s | systems so you can fit optimal range |
| 3580s | scripts within a tracking computer |
| 3583s | and that will allow you to shoot further |
| 3585s | and apply your damage map much better to |
| 3587s | Target set distance likewise you can |
| 3589s | have tracking computers loaded with |
| 3591s | tracking speed scripts which will allow |
| 3593s | you to hit that pesky tackle while it's |
| 3594s | burning around so yeah that's one of the |
| 3597s | benefits I think of having an armor |
| 3599s | setup in a kite income |
| 3601s | awesome well out Fox we'll be back later |
| 3603s | on today uh where they go up against |
| 3606s | Picasso Pizza Time diplomacy |
| 3609s | um to see if they can pull out a w at |
| 3611s | the moment |
| 3612s | um they drop to the bottom of their |
| 3614s | bracket having just lost to to snuffed |
| 3616s | out who got one and one now let's look |
| 3619s | at our next match uh it's going to be |
| 3620s | between hidden Leaf Village Ninja |
| 3622s | Assassin Squad Esports and Moss piglet |
| 3625s | preservation Society the two longest |
| 3628s | team names in the tournament and they |
| 3630s | break most of our Graphics |
| 3633s | um and I had to write them down to make |
| 3635s | sure I can actually remember them |
| 3636s | because there's so many letters involved |
| 3637s | here but the bands for hidden Leaf are |
| 3641s | Cerberus slept near arthrus and Moss |
| 3644s | piglet Banning slept near Vindicator |
| 3647s | Scimitar wingna as a big Vindicator fan |
| 3651s | um how does it make you feel to see it |
| 3653s | banned out here |
| 3655s | they are true Heretics they are |
| 3657s | apostates they must be burned but I mean |
| 3661s | I get it they're scared of it I |
| 3662s | understand they also bans that another |
| 3664s | very good rushing uh brawling ship then |
| 3666s | they ban the Scimitar which is the exact |
| 3668s | opposite so I don't know there might be |
| 3670s | a bit confused on that one |
| 3674s | yeah and uh mystical mate slept near |
| 3676s | that's usually a very popular ship in |
| 3678s | the alliance tournament I believe if we |
| 3679s | look at the stats over the many years |
| 3681s | that line serum has been running uh one |
| 3683s | of the most fielded uh and successful |
| 3685s | ships and almost eponymous with Alliance |
| 3688s | tournament and we haven't seen a huge |
| 3690s | amount um but we've also not seen |
| 3692s | instrument bands on it what's your |
| 3694s | thoughts this year on the sleptner |
| 3697s | uh I mean yeah historically it's it's |
| 3701s | performed well and it's been a Mainstay |
| 3703s | for many of the teams that have taken |
| 3705s | part in one in |
| 3706s | um the various Alliance tournaments that |
| 3708s | have been run before |
| 3709s | um I think we've seen it a fair bit |
| 3711s | probably more often than some other |
| 3714s | ships that are being fielded today |
| 3718s | um I mean she would rush as a setup or |
| 3720s | an archetype this tournament seems to be |
| 3722s | where a lot of teams uh heads are at |
| 3725s | this moment in time so if you know we've |
| 3727s | seen a lot of Shield rush so far and |
| 3729s | they do typically |
| 3730s | tend to win uh that that track record so |
| 3734s | far is pretty positive |
| 3735s | the reason that perhaps we're not seeing |
| 3737s | it as much as we may have in previous |
| 3739s | tournaments especially not the fly |
| 3741s | killer |
| 3742s | trying to remember if that's the right |
| 3743s | name fly killer the Arty sleptness |
| 3746s | um is that headshot again |
| 3749s | yeah the Boom headshot comp is just that |
| 3751s | there's um there's so many other |
| 3753s | archetypes that you can bring and they |
| 3755s | they all work really well the points |
| 3756s | have been adjusted in a way that opens |
| 3758s | up the matter to exploration instead of |
| 3761s | relying on the ships that we've seen in |
| 3763s | previous tournaments |
| 3765s | awesome thank you I just wanted to |
| 3766s | clarify how the tiebreakers work here so |
| 3769s | we're running a group system in these |
| 3770s | trials uh it's not like double |
| 3772s | elimination or single elimination as you |
| 3774s | might have seen in previous feeders or |
| 3775s | the last tournament itself |
| 3777s | um it is a little individual brackets |
| 3779s | where people are fighting everyone in |
| 3781s | their bracket if there is a tie if two |
| 3784s | teams finish and say uh one and one then |
| 3787s | the first tie break is their rust score |
| 3791s | so the number of points in Minotaur |
| 3794s | ships they have brought all things being |
| 3795s | equal if you bring more Minotaur ships |
| 3799s | in the other team then you will win if |
| 3801s | that number is the same then it goes to |
| 3803s | points difference in the actual matches |
| 3805s | themselves so it's worth obviously |
| 3807s | trying to kill as many points as |
| 3808s | possible while losing the least amount |
| 3810s | so even if you've basically lost the |
| 3812s | match and you still have some ships |
| 3814s | alive it is worth them running around |
| 3816s | trying not to uh to die and to keep your |
| 3818s | points difference preserved so that is |
| 3821s | the the way the tie Breakers will be |
| 3822s | working uh we'll get some more |
| 3824s | information about that a little bit |
| 3825s | later on |
| 3826s | but it's pretty much almost time to go |
| 3827s | to our next match so as mentioned uh it |
| 3829s | is between hidden Leaf Village Ninja |
| 3831s | Assassin Squad Esports and Moss piglet |
| 3834s | preservation Society your casters for |
| 3837s | this one are going to be zoo and jintan |
| 3840s | so let's go to the arena now and see |
| 3841s | whose name can win |
| 3849s | and welcome to the arena here where it |
| 3851s | is the Battle of the green where it's |
| 3852s | hidden Leaf versus Moss piglets I am |
| 3855s | joined here by jintan my name is xurok |
| 3858s | and we already have some interesting |
| 3860s | lineups here I think they're bad and I'm |
| 3862s | not sure if this is the first time we're |
| 3863s | seeing one jinton |
| 3865s | uh I believe it is and it's accompanied |
| 3867s | by a pair of uh cruise missile typhoons |
| 3871s | it looks like so we've got another comp |
| 3872s | similar to what we saw the ancient |
| 3874s | spring earlier where they're relying on |
| 3876s | a large amount of long-range DPS that's |
| 3879s | going to apply consistently and they're |
| 3881s | going up against this triple rapid heavy |
| 3883s | Fleet from uh uh from hiddenly Village |
| 3887s | Ninja Assassin Squad Esports |
| 3890s | um who are going to be trying to burn |
| 3892s | through their support Wing as quickly as |
| 3894s | possible I think that the organ Navy |
| 3896s | issue and the harbinger are going to |
| 3898s | want to keep themselves very very safe |
| 3900s | during the opening seconds of this match |
| 3903s | definitely like you say we do have a |
| 3905s | countdown happening here so we're gonna |
| 3906s | try and look for the Target priority |
| 3908s | here |
| 3909s | um from head and leaf side I'm not sure |
| 3910s | what they're going for um the Deacon |
| 3912s | thought you're obviously being small |
| 3913s | things to pick off but like you say the |
| 3914s | best pick of them right now probably the |
| 3916s | harbinger followed by the Old Navy well |
| 3918s | I'm hoping uh Moss is going to probably |
| 3920s | go and try and apply to like execure and |
| 3922s | then grind through these battleships |
| 3925s | yeah another little interesting point is |
| 3927s | that both sides have brought an armor |
| 3928s | Jack door to the field uh so there's |
| 3930s | gonna be a lot of damps spread across |
| 3932s | and you can see they're already Landing |
| 3933s | from the hiddenly village Ninja Assassin |
| 3936s | Squad Esports across the top end of that |
| 3939s | uh Moss piglet preservation Society comp |
| 3941s | uh the fleet uh the fleet typhoon's |
| 3944s | probably not being able to apply to the |
| 3946s | long-range targets that they want to at |
| 3948s | this point that executor is looking |
| 3950s | rather safe as a result |
| 3952s | so we see damage being applied to the |
| 3954s | vigil Fleet issue on Master's side not |
| 3956s | to show why the vigil Fleet does have a |
| 3958s | web bonus but it's a flat bonus not the |
| 3960s | long range bonus like the hyena that |
| 3962s | being said tahina on the opposite side |
| 3963s | there of hidden leaves also being |
| 3964s | tickled a bit they initially applied |
| 3966s | some damage to the purifier obviously |
| 3967s | the purifier being a threat to |
| 3968s | battleships just applying a steady |
| 3970s | stream of torpedoes but it looks like |
| 3971s | suddenly uh Moss piglets has switched |
| 3974s | over back to the food luckily at the |
| 3976s | advantage of doing consistent damage and |
| 3978s | you know the crews and the Lasers versus |
| 3980s | something like Rapids is you can change |
| 3983s | targets whenever you feel like and not |
| 3985s | lose your momentum always you know it's |
| 3988s | really it really feels bad when you're |
| 3990s | halfway through a clip of Rapids and |
| 3992s | suddenly you want to choose targets |
| 3993s | because you know you're not going to be |
| 3994s | able to finish something off before the |
| 3995s | reloads but for this steady stream of |
| 3997s | damage at least um most piglets can keep |
| 3999s | poking away and see where the weak |
| 4001s | points are on the hit and leave side |
| 4004s | yeah right now it seems that both teams |
| 4006s | are just trying to figure out where they |
| 4007s | want to be positionally both teams sort |
| 4009s | of just flying around one another |
| 4011s | looking for an opening um whilst the |
| 4013s | e-war prevents either side from really |
| 4015s | breaking one another uh an interesting |
| 4017s | note here is that the jackdaw on the |
| 4019s | Moss piglet preservation Society side |
| 4021s | from flown by Coogan is actually using |
| 4024s | um tracking disruptors and guidance |
| 4026s | disruptors so helping to prevent |
| 4028s | anything from really landing on his own |
| 4030s | Fleet and that's especially especially |
| 4032s | painful when you're running a comp like |
| 4034s | this rapid heavy thing uh from the |
| 4037s | ninjas as they are only going to have a |
| 4039s | couple of charts sorry if they get |
| 4041s | disrupted during their clip it massively |
| 4043s | impacts their ability to kill something |
| 4045s | both sides now actually focusing on each |
| 4047s | other's Jack doors looking like looking |
| 4049s | like they want to take the control off |
| 4050s | of the grid as soon as possible that |
| 4052s | said Harbinger is finally getting shot |
| 4054s | it looks like he's straight a little bit |
| 4055s | too close |
| 4057s | Jack doors like you were mentioning |
| 4058s | being a uh perfect eward platform and |
| 4061s | Sharpshooter mode from the Tactical |
| 4062s | Destroyer having the bonus towards lock |
| 4064s | range and e-war resistance at the same |
| 4066s | time making that ironically enough if a |
| 4068s | jack donor carries were to be in |
| 4070s | jamboard that jackdaw would win but as I |
| 4072s | said at the harbinger on the Moss picket |
| 4074s | side goes down so uh hit and leave |
| 4076s | managed students securing the first kill |
| 4077s | here let's see if they can find some |
| 4079s | more holes on the most piglet side and |
| 4080s | get some more pickups here uh but the |
| 4082s | jackdaw on the hidden Leaf side is |
| 4084s | suffering a bit but |
| 4086s | um unfortunately it might just be a |
| 4087s | mismatching weapon types and |
| 4089s | consistencies on the Moss piglet site |
| 4091s | which not really alarm to always secure |
| 4093s | a kill when they get |
| 4095s | um some momentum going there because |
| 4096s | while the Cruisers can always hit they |
| 4099s | are still relying on tracking from the |
| 4101s | abandoned side as well so he's gonna |
| 4103s | have to be on his game to apply for |
| 4104s | damage but as we're saying that Abu and |
| 4106s | Piglet's side here and the organovic |
| 4108s | getting low |
| 4110s | yeah there's some really interesting |
| 4111s | tackle fights going on it looks like the |
| 4113s | visual Fleet issue of ear eae is uh |
| 4116s | trying to tackle down the Basilisk for |
| 4117s | getting screened off uh looked like |
| 4119s | their baton was actually trying to shoot |
| 4120s | him there briefly uh but the org Navy |
| 4122s | issue has finally Fallen there that's a |
| 4125s | lot of tackle Off the Grid now for um uh |
| 4128s | Moss piglet preservation Society they're |
| 4130s | gonna need to start playing a little |
| 4131s | more aggressively really if they want to |
| 4133s | lock anything down and stay within |
| 4134s | tackle range but Ultram is taking a |
| 4137s | decent amount of DPS here he's in about |
| 4139s | a quarter armor |
| 4142s | yes |
| 4145s | hitch on DPS is a tough one I I'm not |
| 4147s | sure if they're just being a range |
| 4149s | disrupt because it still had it's a |
| 4152s | faction pirate Battleship actually and |
| 4154s | has a lot of HP bonuses and they're |
| 4157s | still lodgy up and they don't exactly |
| 4158s | have the most high-end EPS stream coming |
| 4161s | out so they're probably gonna have to |
| 4164s | try and find some way to get their hands |
| 4166s | on that execure right now and then they |
| 4169s | can start looking at grinding away these |
| 4171s | chunkier boys it seems um but that also |
| 4173s | being said for hidden Leaf they're |
| 4175s | suffering the issue here right now oh |
| 4177s | fantastic headshot onto the Magus a plus |
| 4180s | coordination there |
| 4181s | um like I'm saying their their issue is |
| 4183s | all supplying onto this Deacon Thalia |
| 4185s | but they still have the Aina on this |
| 4186s | side |
| 4187s | um so just an issue of application it |
| 4190s | seems but hidden Leaf finally figuring |
| 4192s | out what they can hit and taking some |
| 4194s | kills now |
| 4195s | yeah and it looks like the uh it looks |
| 4197s | like the Oppo the sorry the piglet team |
| 4199s | have heard you they're rushing in both |
| 4201s | of those typhoons into the back line uh |
| 4203s | they should be starting to get really |
| 4204s | close to that executor now but it looks |
| 4206s | like |
| 4207s | um uh the ninja team have responded to |
| 4210s | that in turn pulling him in close behind |
| 4212s | these type of inflate issues and they're |
| 4213s | going to try and use that utility to |
| 4215s | soak the pressure of that aggression uh |
| 4218s | from the uh from the most popular |
| 4220s | preservation Society attack and Yep |
| 4223s | they're pulling back now this is this is |
| 4225s | a really rough position for the most |
| 4226s | people that's being especially as that |
| 4227s | typhoon of modern Inferno goes into |
| 4229s | really really low armor here they're |
| 4231s | finally getting some purchase on that |
| 4233s | executor trying to kill him off and uh |
| 4235s | maybe win the long game through that but |
| 4238s | it's going to be tough here especially |
| 4239s | as the vigil Fleet issue goes down the |
| 4240s | last bit of tackle they have left on |
| 4242s | this grid |
| 4243s | you know the typhoon going to structure |
| 4245s | there unfortunately I think they just |
| 4247s | have to make up their mind uh they can't |
| 4248s | uh really go back and forth here they |
| 4251s | have to commit and just decide that the |
| 4252s | execure is what they need because if |
| 4254s | you're trying to rush in and get the |
| 4256s | execure and then half back off this is |
| 4258s | what ends up happening is you're over |
| 4259s | extend the ship some You're Gonna Lose a |
| 4262s | ship that's fine but then if you're not |
| 4264s | even getting a trade uh it ends up being |
| 4266s | a complete waste and not only are they |
| 4268s | gonna there's no trade looks like |
| 4270s | they're probably gonna lose three ships |
| 4271s | here now |
| 4272s | um with the typhoon and going down |
| 4274s | likely soon with and the jackdaw of |
| 4276s | tugen as well on the Moss piglet side |
| 4278s | while this execure is still looking |
| 4280s | extremely strong as a typhoon goes down |
| 4283s | this extra in a comfortable position |
| 4285s | with the Bots surrounding it I'm rather |
| 4287s | surprised that the jackdaw on either |
| 4289s | side especially on the Piglet's side |
| 4291s | hasn't been looking to try and clear off |
| 4293s | these red Bots which I've been keeping |
| 4295s | up as execure to be honest |
| 4297s | yeah and I've also got to say I'm |
| 4299s | surprised to see no pressure really ever |
| 4301s | put onto these uh little bombers uh you |
| 4304s | know there's only six points on the |
| 4305s | Ninja's side and it's probably they |
| 4307s | probably put out 600 DPS between them |
| 4309s | for almost the entirety of this match |
| 4311s | straight onto those battleships and that |
| 4313s | is such a huge amount for that and also |
| 4315s | as I say that they finally start |
| 4317s | shooting them |
| 4318s | um |
| 4319s | you know these bombers they're |
| 4320s | relatively hard to kill if you've got a |
| 4322s | lot of Battleship top end which is what |
| 4323s | Moss piglet brought but even with that |
| 4325s | you should be able to apply to them to |
| 4327s | some degree and they have so so little |
| 4330s | tank that uh you're gonna Force an |
| 4332s | Executor to put almost all of its reps |
| 4334s | onto it even if you only have a couple |
| 4335s | of things like Harbinger and the org |
| 4337s | Navy which can apply to it effectively |
| 4339s | that's a toucan here is in trouble it |
| 4340s | looks like he's finally being picked out |
| 4342s | of the back line and dropped by the |
| 4344s | rapid heavy missiles from his opponents |
| 4347s | so if most people is actually paying |
| 4350s | attention and if hopefully they still |
| 4351s | had a battleship alive there was uh just |
| 4353s | now all the rep drones that were on the |
| 4355s | execure had a travel time over wherever |
| 4357s | they put them onto the hyena of basilus |
| 4360s | glare so if Moss was actually paying |
| 4362s | attention they could have actually |
| 4363s | capitalized on all those drones going |
| 4365s | off their exec applied all the exec and |
| 4367s | then to take advantage of that travel |
| 4369s | time for the repos to get back and |
| 4370s | hopefully taking on an exec but not |
| 4373s | really being situationally aware there |
| 4375s | and now they're starting to lose their |
| 4376s | lodgy so it looks like hidden Leaf is |
| 4378s | just going to be grinding down the last |
| 4380s | three remaining ships here and securing |
| 4381s | the win uh brilliant position here I'd |
| 4384s | say by the Neo in the execure |
| 4386s | um well then leave on their use of bots |
| 4388s | uh Bots can always like said on our |
| 4390s | panel before be a bit of a |
| 4392s | micromanagement hassle you might need to |
| 4394s | make sure that way he's applying the |
| 4395s | target they can't just disengage but we |
| 4398s | can see them comfortably here keeping |
| 4399s | the exit up so much he's able to read |
| 4401s | gen Shields even |
| 4404s | yeah yeah and yeah interestingly I think |
| 4407s | the uh both teams actually took the |
| 4408s | opposite role to what you would think |
| 4410s | they would have done on paper with uh |
| 4411s | Moss piglet having to come in a lot more |
| 4413s | aggressively and push into the control |
| 4416s | of this hidden Leaf ninja side where uh |
| 4419s | which is not something you would |
| 4420s | normally want to do with cruise missiles |
| 4422s | and pulses you'd want to kind of keep |
| 4423s | the longer range uh maybe distribute off |
| 4426s | that rapid heavy missile which we |
| 4428s | normally see rushed into your opponents |
| 4430s | and used to just clap things down |
| 4432s | quickly and then uh win off of the back |
| 4434s | of that with the positional advantage |
| 4437s | instead you know |
| 4439s | um the hidden Leaf ninjas just played |
| 4441s | the defensive game they sat back they |
| 4443s | waited for their opponents to get out of |
| 4444s | position and then they capitalized on |
| 4447s | their opponents being out of position |
| 4448s | just firing missiles downrange and |
| 4450s | killing them before they could turn |
| 4451s | around and it looks like it might be a |
| 4453s | 100-0 if they don't let Asuka go down |
| 4455s | here just for the memes |
| 4457s | and just don't get that tunnel vision |
| 4459s | don't get complacent because the |
| 4460s | advantage of a tracking ship is if |
| 4463s | you're not paying attention and you're |
| 4464s | just not watching transversal they can |
| 4466s | get those wrecking shots and just |
| 4467s | absolutely obliterate you but look like |
| 4470s | the strip of the shields there woke up |
| 4472s | Asuka a bit and he's on the move again |
| 4474s | so just gonna though deprive those |
| 4476s | points from Moss piglet um not giving |
| 4479s | any purchase uh any the wave to them at |
| 4481s | all having absolute dominant show there |
| 4483s | and I will just say as well as we finish |
| 4485s | off here well done to Hidden leaf for |
| 4487s | hiding their bombers in plain sight |
| 4491s | and with that we'll be heading back to |
| 4493s | the studio |
| 4495s | he who have seen war will never stop |
| 4499s | seeing it in the Silence of the night we |
| 4502s | will always hear the screams so this is |
| 4505s | our story wolves amongst strangers |
| 4511s | you know that anything can happen in |
| 4513s | Alfred fleets |
| 4517s | Jesus why you must have some big balls |
| 4520s | yeah |
| 4521s | [Laughter] |
| 4522s | yeah literally anything |
| 4554s | foreign |
| 4557s | eggs to go with that well fried bacon |
| 4560s | there as a hidden Leaf Village Ninja |
| 4563s | Assassin Squad Esports serves up a |
| 4565s | delicious breakfast |
| 4567s | um mystical might where did it all go |
| 4569s | wrong for uh the most public |
| 4571s | preservation Society I saw what looked |
| 4573s | like mixed weapon types that doesn't |
| 4575s | seem like a good idea |
| 4577s | yeah they uh they decided to mix weapon |
| 4581s | Types on their Battleship so they had at |
| 4583s | a badon which is by no means a bad ship |
| 4586s | um it does a lot of damage it usually |
| 4588s | projects quite well so no complaints |
| 4590s | there the typhoon and the typhoon Fleet |
| 4593s | issue opted to use different weapon |
| 4595s | systems so I believe the typhoon had |
| 4598s | rapid Heavies whereas the typhoon Fleet |
| 4601s | had cruise missiles so |
| 4603s | not really matching up too well it |
| 4606s | doesn't allow them to effectively burst |
| 4608s | anything on the enemy team short bursts |
| 4610s | of damage from the rapid Heavies and |
| 4611s | then the long reload times if they both |
| 4613s | have rapid Heavy's fit they're able to |
| 4615s | pair those up so that they're both on |
| 4617s | reload at the same time and then both |
| 4618s | applying damage at the same time because |
| 4620s | they have the different weapon systems |
| 4622s | they don't do anything of well they're |
| 4625s | just able to do both at the same time so |
| 4627s | they couldn't actually break anything on |
| 4630s | the hidden Leaf Village People |
| 4633s | whatever the neighbors team |
| 4636s | I should I'm assuming you're referring |
| 4638s | of course to Hidden Leaf Village Ninja |
| 4639s | Assassin Squad Esports uh the team is |
| 4643s | silent it's in their logo but it's not |
| 4645s | in the actual Alliance name I think the |
| 4646s | legitimately ran out of space on um on |
| 4649s | the game like allowing them to put more |
| 4651s | letters in otherwise I'm sure it would |
| 4652s | be there as well |
| 4654s | um uh Wingnut we saw what looked like |
| 4656s | really really good uh screening by the |
| 4658s | carries of hydro in that last match how |
| 4661s | important is in fact tell you what tell |
| 4664s | us a bit about what screening means in |
| 4665s | this context and how important it was to |
| 4667s | that comp |
| 4669s | it is basically keeping the naughty bits |
| 4671s | of their comp away from the weak bits of |
| 4673s | yours whether you use a tackle ship to |
| 4675s | scramming long range webs or just even |
| 4677s | just a damp for instance and just stop |
| 4679s | for someone being able to lock in the |
| 4680s | first place you basically want to stop |
| 4682s | them doing what they want to you and |
| 4685s | that's the most General way is just by |
| 4686s | stopping them scram them but that that's |
| 4690s | Hydro in that carries was just doing |
| 4692s | amazing work in general just |
| 4695s | I can't even explain it because I'm not |
| 4697s | that good of a pilot compared to that |
| 4699s | like that is that is levels Beyond me |
| 4701s | for sure and it's it's just so well done |
| 4704s | honestly I'm proud of it |
| 4706s | uh mystical mate as a as a former Elite |
| 4709s | tournament pilot now a member of |
| 4710s | fraternity |
| 4712s | um you've done a lot of uh like high IQ |
| 4714s | flying and piloting in matches how hard |
| 4716s | is it to fly a ship like the carries |
| 4719s | it is honestly |
| 4724s | quite tricky depending on the team that |
| 4725s | you're going up against so |
| 4727s | the carries isn't going to have the |
| 4728s | strongest tank one of the benefits of |
| 4730s | the carries and one of the strengths of |
| 4732s | it is that you're going to be sitting so |
| 4734s | far back that most things won't be able |
| 4735s | to project their damage onto you in this |
| 4738s | particular setup that we were watching |
| 4740s | that was very much the case the carries |
| 4742s | the hyena they weren't really pressured |
| 4744s | all that much again that is Testament to |
| 4747s | the fact that the piglet team didn't |
| 4749s | really have |
| 4751s | um you know weapon system cohesion so |
| 4753s | they weren't able to burst anything on |
| 4755s | the hidden Leaf ninja Village uh side |
| 4758s | if they had rapid Heavies I think we |
| 4761s | would have seen the carries in the hyena |
| 4762s | perhaps go down a little bit sooner |
| 4765s | um but yeah I mean that that |
| 4767s | fairly simple ships to fly in in the |
| 4769s | right circumstances really difficult |
| 4771s | ships to fly if you're going up against |
| 4772s | you know lots of Rapid Heavies and Rapid |
| 4774s | Light massage for example |
| 4776s | yeah well most piglet I think will be |
| 4780s | back later on yes they're going up |
| 4781s | against of sound mine in a few hours uh |
| 4784s | later today for uh for more matches in |
| 4786s | their group hidden Leaf Village Ninja |
| 4788s | Assassin Squad Esports |
| 4791s | open parenthesis team close parentheses |
| 4794s | um going 2-0 in their group so they're |
| 4796s | now in a commanding position uh look |
| 4798s | likely to get through to the next stage |
| 4801s | most of the the commentators uh agreed |
| 4803s | before the start of the trials in fact |
| 4805s | they were likely to be one of the teams |
| 4807s | to make it through uh the trials into |
| 4810s | the alliance tournament proper they |
| 4811s | looked like one of the strongest teams |
| 4812s | they performed relatively well in other |
| 4814s | tournaments and they seem to have |
| 4817s | continued to to grow as a team uh when |
| 4819s | that cross do you think that's fairly |
| 4821s | we're definitely going to see hidden |
| 4822s | Leaf in the main Alliance tournament or |
| 4823s | do you think there's still some people |
| 4824s | here that could maybe threaten that |
| 4826s | position for them |
| 4828s | there's some good teams around that's |
| 4830s | true there are definitely some really |
| 4831s | good teams around but this team is very |
| 4834s | good there's they've got a very good |
| 4836s | chance unless they truly truly throw |
| 4838s | brown stuff on the bed they've got this |
| 4840s | I think |
| 4843s | awesome now let's take a look at um |
| 4845s | let's take a look at the the grip table |
| 4847s | for the the next tribe the uh your tribe |
| 4853s | um so this is the group we're about to |
| 4855s | see start to play |
| 4857s | and as you can see wolves among |
| 4858s | strangers sing guard to Syndicate and |
| 4860s | Laser Hawks in group a Exodus initiative |
| 4862s | and Shadow Patel in group b so um rules |
| 4866s | among strangers sitting at the top of |
| 4867s | group a with that win aileron Ross Grove |
| 4869s | only 11 |
| 4871s | um but doing fairly well Singularity uh |
| 4873s | syndicates so far yet to pull out a win |
| 4875s | as have laser Hawks but that's pretty |
| 4878s | much due to the fact they haven't played |
| 4879s | which is uh somewhat reasonable Exodus |
| 4882s | have been very strong uh we expect them |
| 4884s | to do quite well as well the initiative |
| 4886s | lost uh this morning to |
| 4890s | somebody forgotten or was it yesterday |
| 4892s | they lost but I'm sure they have lost a |
| 4894s | match and Shadow cartel as well losing a |
| 4896s | match yesterday so the next match we're |
| 4898s | going to see is actually going to be |
| 4899s | Singularity Syndicate versus laser Hawks |
| 4901s | so this could uh shake up the order of |
| 4903s | group a it could allow laser Hawks to |
| 4906s | move up into either joint first maybe |
| 4908s | with the tie break depending if they |
| 4909s | bring a lot of Minotaur ships or even uh |
| 4912s | into second place which is still a |
| 4914s | decent place to be |
| 4915s | singularities indicate choosing to ban |
| 4917s | typhoon flu tissue and the bar guest and |
| 4919s | those are expanding The Vindicator and |
| 4921s | the curse mystical might what do you |
| 4923s | think of these bands |
| 4925s | yeah I mean very typical bands I think |
| 4928s | at this point I'm sure the Vindicator |
| 4930s | ban is breaking uh wingnut's heart but |
| 4932s | you know some teams just don't want to |
| 4934s | be going up against the 90 webs because |
| 4936s | it limits their effectiveness with |
| 4938s | mitigating damage if they are in a |
| 4940s | brawling comp and likewise we're seeing |
| 4942s | the bar gas the type and Fleet issue and |
| 4944s | the curse these are pretty standard |
| 4947s | bands for ships that are historically |
| 4950s | and currently I would say strong in the |
| 4952s | tournament setting the curse being I |
| 4955s | suppose the the hardest one to deal with |
| 4957s | of the four that we just saw on screen |
| 4959s | though as again it has those long range |
| 4961s | medium newts that cycle fairly quickly |
| 4963s | and are quite strong so they're able to |
| 4965s | shut down things like Logistics vessels |
| 4968s | um preventing them from putting out reps |
| 4970s | and effectively deleting them from the |
| 4972s | grid |
| 4974s | when the singularity Syndicate dropped a |
| 4977s | match yesterday lizards haven't played |
| 4978s | yet |
| 4979s | um Singularity Syndicate can you need to |
| 4980s | win this now are they going to be in a |
| 4983s | really bad position going forward what |
| 4985s | do you think they're going to do you |
| 4986s | think they're going to just go all out |
| 4987s | right now bring the best comp that they |
| 4989s | have or do you think they're going to |
| 4990s | try and maybe out meta based on the |
| 4991s | bands what would you do |
| 4994s | I would just bring another Minotaur rush |
| 4996s | in Rush |
| 4997s | yeah you got your rust points yeah got |
| 4999s | to do it but it's it's gonna be |
| 5001s | interesting like some teams think |
| 5003s | different ways some people might just |
| 5004s | send it other people might just go you |
| 5006s | know what let's just play for rust |
| 5007s | points there might just be a team who |
| 5008s | goes who cares just bring something |
| 5010s | silly let's do like five badges Let's |
| 5012s | Roll |
| 5012s | I love to see what they do we'll see |
| 5015s | what kind of Parts they are |
| 5017s | yeah interesting to know uh as far as I |
| 5019s | know only one team has fully lent into |
| 5021s | the rust point system and no vacancies |
| 5024s | yesterday bringing a full mimitar comp |
| 5027s | 10 Minotaur ships taking I think 88 rust |
| 5030s | points from that in the end |
| 5032s | um maybe 100 I'm not sure how the point |
| 5034s | inflation works on that one so we'll |
| 5035s | have to double check |
| 5037s | um we're just waiting for teams to to |
| 5039s | warp into the arena I see that they are |
| 5040s | in local |
| 5042s | um and I'm seeing what some of these |
| 5043s | teams are bringing in this should be a a |
| 5045s | super interesting match up to be sure |
| 5049s | um mystical mate we watch predictions uh |
| 5051s | what do you think here is there going to |
| 5053s | be laser Hawks or Singularity Syndicate |
| 5055s | going to Claw on back |
| 5057s | uh |
| 5060s | so |
| 5061s | last uh broadcast so yesterday I |
| 5065s | basically just bet on team blue the |
| 5067s | entire time and then they lost almost |
| 5069s | every match in the uh the first segment |
| 5072s | uh this time I've actually been choosing |
| 5074s | people that I think will win uh I'm |
| 5076s | gonna go ahead and say laser Hawks for |
| 5078s | this one uh the setup that Singularity |
| 5081s | Syndicate brought last time was not |
| 5083s | convincing to me at all in fact I think |
| 5086s | it looks pretty bad so if that's where |
| 5088s | their head is at then I think they've |
| 5090s | lost this one |
| 5091s | how is your voting record today then |
| 5096s | it's not too bad not too bad I'm uh |
| 5098s | doing doing so so so so I dropped one |
| 5102s | without foxed unfortunately but so far |
| 5105s | I've been on on track |
| 5107s | uh rather interestingly uh so far today |
| 5110s | is 100 to the red side uh no blue team |
| 5113s | has won so far today uh can they do it |
| 5116s | can laser Hawks beat that curse and be |
| 5118s | the first blue team to win or will |
| 5120s | Singularity Syndicate prove that they |
| 5122s | can actually claw a match back against |
| 5124s | what mystical might says well let's find |
| 5126s | out as we hand over to the arena with |
| 5128s | Jin tan and blackberry pirate |
| 5135s | hello everyone and welcome back to the |
| 5137s | arena we have Cindy here bringing a |
| 5140s | heavy missile kite cop against what |
| 5142s | looks to potentially be a counter to |
| 5144s | that in an armor projection comp here |
| 5146s | from laser Hawks uh how do you think |
| 5149s | this match is going to play out what are |
| 5150s | going to be the key sort of ships to |
| 5152s | focus on in this match PVP |
| 5155s | man I don't I don't know if you would |
| 5157s | even call this an armor projection comp |
| 5159s | I just see four armor battleships like |
| 5161s | I'm just just putting that out there |
| 5163s | it's uh it's a little weird I do think |
| 5165s | that |
| 5166s | laser Hawks the four armored battleships |
| 5169s | will give it a lot of uh a lot of pretty |
| 5171s | heavy DPS if they can actually catch |
| 5173s | anything and get in range of it |
| 5175s | um obviously the laser ships do have |
| 5177s | pretty long range but that is a blaster |
| 5179s | Hyperion so we will kind of see I think |
| 5181s | laser Hawks uh they have to get on top |
| 5184s | of something and Singularity Syndicate |
| 5185s | needs to clear that very very weak uh |
| 5188s | low end on the laser Hawk side because |
| 5190s | laser Hawks only has a vigil Fleet a |
| 5192s | fire tail and a pontifix as tackle |
| 5196s | oh I think you're ignoring the power of |
| 5198s | the badger there that Badger is probably |
| 5199s | going to be using all of its 506 mid |
| 5202s | slots with remote tracking computers and |
| 5203s | remote sensor boosters making those |
| 5205s | battleships even more powerful and able |
| 5207s | to project on top of uh this Cindy Fleet |
| 5210s | they're going to need to kite Away |
| 5211s | really really aggressively and hope that |
| 5214s | the uh armor Fleet from lxh just uh |
| 5217s | burns into them and just dies as a |
| 5219s | result of that you can see look at that |
| 5221s | DPS already landing on the Drake Navy |
| 5223s | issue in half Shields before his |
| 5224s | Logistics can even lock him |
| 5227s | yeah that is a that's a pretty high |
| 5229s | amount of damage right there uh is |
| 5231s | starting to catch a little bit we're |
| 5232s | seeing some damage going out onto the |
| 5234s | apocalypse which is probably the best |
| 5235s | choice here but you're right that Drake |
| 5237s | Navy is almost into armor already |
| 5239s | massive amount of damps coming out of |
| 5241s | the singularity Syndicate side that |
| 5242s | doesn't really matter if their ships get |
| 5244s | too close to you uh I think you're right |
| 5246s | the straight Navy is just gonna go down |
| 5248s | here with uh barely a scratch being done |
| 5250s | to this apocalypse |
| 5252s | yeah the apocalypse has a weak tank but |
| 5254s | it has such a massive projection and |
| 5256s | tracking bonus that it should be able to |
| 5258s | hit things from pretty much anywhere on |
| 5259s | the grid as long as uh especially as |
| 5261s | they get caught right into the edge of |
| 5262s | the Arena here they're gonna have to |
| 5264s | turn around yep it looks like none of |
| 5265s | them are going to boundary uh but |
| 5267s | they're gonna have to slow down uh and |
| 5269s | turn here and that's going to give the |
| 5272s | laser Hawks team a massive opportunity |
| 5273s | to finish him off I gotta say this this |
| 5276s | basilisk is probably doing is doing work |
| 5278s | his hands are shaking and sweat is |
| 5280s | probably running down his forehead as he |
| 5281s | tries to keep Captain LeBron James alive |
| 5284s | he's doing an excellent job actually it |
| 5286s | almost looks like yeah it looks like he |
| 5288s | might actually be holding him uh which |
| 5290s | is really impressive uh you are right |
| 5292s | the badger is doing Mass amounts of |
| 5294s | tracking uh bonusing to all these |
| 5296s | battleships but I I don't know I think |
| 5298s | that this this Drake actually got away |
| 5300s | which is really crazy they are swapping |
| 5302s | over to the tingu uh same situation |
| 5304s | outfitted into half Shields almost right |
| 5306s | off the bat so you're right this fastest |
| 5308s | is doing incredible work but uh maybe |
| 5310s | maybe they'll take the Tinky down |
| 5312s | yeah it looks like they're just trying |
| 5313s | to split apart now um uh this Phoenix |
| 5315s | sorry this Hyperion is just out in the |
| 5317s | middle of nowhere so far away from his |
| 5319s | team if uh beastavane can uh screen him |
| 5322s | off uh he's gonna leave that Tengu with |
| 5324s | so much room to run away uh we know from |
| 5327s | the previous uh previous fights that |
| 5329s | this tengue is actually self-rep as well |
| 5330s | so he has the ability to keep himself |
| 5332s | alive versus just one or two uh ships |
| 5334s | shooting at him uh that could be crucial |
| 5337s | in this match actually it's not |
| 5338s | something we see a lot of in the |
| 5340s | tournament normally we only see ships |
| 5342s | with major major bonuses to uh self-rep |
| 5344s | uh Being Fit like that that said it |
| 5347s | looks like they're actually turning on |
| 5348s | the Basilisk here he's so out of |
| 5350s | position uh he's just been in court in |
| 5352s | the middle of all by all of this cheap |
| 5353s | tackle and he's gonna go down |
| 5356s | wow that was quick |
| 5359s | yeah |
| 5362s | because maybe a little bit too early |
| 5364s | there uh ancillary Shield booster |
| 5366s | catching it with uh okay now it's I was |
| 5368s | gonna say you're not gonna live long |
| 5369s | with 20 structure uh that is a huge |
| 5371s | change it does look like those |
| 5371s | apocalypse will probably drop as well |
| 5373s | without that basilisk I'm I'm very |
| 5375s | worried for Singularity Syndicate here |
| 5378s | they do manage to trade off for an |
| 5379s | apocalypse though so they've now only |
| 5380s | got one real good long-range projection |
| 5382s | ship in the apocalypse Navy issue a bit |
| 5385s | of mid-range DPS in the abaddin and then |
| 5387s | close range DPS and the Hyperion so |
| 5389s | laser Hawks are actually spread across |
| 5390s | three different ranges here and they're |
| 5391s | gonna need to rely on their tackle of |
| 5394s | that visual Fleet issue in that Republic |
| 5395s | Fleet fire tower getting in and holding |
| 5397s | on to something if they want to really |
| 5399s | really kill it quickly |
| 5401s | um it's going to be interesting to see |
| 5402s | if they're able to do that as this fight |
| 5404s | gets spread across all the all of the |
| 5406s | grid you can actually see now that uh a |
| 5408s | couple of people are starting to just |
| 5409s | sit on these jump beacons as well from |
| 5411s | the Cindy T and that's really really |
| 5413s | good tactics for them uh it means that |
| 5415s | they're going to be able to jump away if |
| 5417s | they start feeling threatened by that |
| 5419s | low end tackle that said Phoenix 755 and |
| 5422s | the Drake here going into armor and he's |
| 5423s | not going to be long for this world |
| 5424s | either |
| 5426s | no and honestly like I feel like the |
| 5428s | laser Hawk tackle has done almost |
| 5431s | absolutely nothing this entire match |
| 5433s | um which is kind of disappointing it |
| 5435s | doesn't seem like it's necessarily |
| 5436s | needed but uh I would love to see you |
| 5439s | know we're seeing the battleships |
| 5441s | tackling things where this fire tail and |
| 5443s | this vigil Fleet issue are kind of just |
| 5445s | like flying around I don't know if maybe |
| 5447s | they didn't fit tackle at all but I'd |
| 5448s | love to see them actually go and try and |
| 5450s | Tackle down that Tengu which uh like you |
| 5452s | said earlier it is self-repping like |
| 5454s | crazy like it might actually be able to |
| 5455s | hold long enough I'm just not seeing any |
| 5457s | damage coming out of Singularity |
| 5458s | Syndicate like they need to take |
| 5460s | something down here and they've just |
| 5461s | applied absolutely nothing for the last |
| 5463s | I don't know two minutes almost that |
| 5465s | being said visual Fleet issue does drop |
| 5467s | it does get tackled and finally taken |
| 5468s | down uh Singularity Syndicate maybe I |
| 5471s | don't know they just need to take this |
| 5472s | low one down a little bit maybe even |
| 5473s | kill the tracking uh bonusing Badger |
| 5476s | like that'd be a possibly a good Target |
| 5477s | in this case |
| 5479s | yeah I don't know why what it is but uh |
| 5481s | teams seem to just not shoot the badges |
| 5483s | they seem to have an invisibility cloak |
| 5485s | around them we saw it in the last match |
| 5487s | without foxware has brought and we've |
| 5488s | seen it in this game as well it's taken |
| 5490s | a little tickle of Shields and nothing |
| 5492s | else uh that said uh esper here he's |
| 5495s | apparently learned from what we talked |
| 5496s | about in our last game and he's finally |
| 5497s | diving in to uh protect his tengue but |
| 5500s | it's just a little bit too late as he |
| 5502s | falls through structure uh if they'd |
| 5504s | been able to screen off the tackle from |
| 5506s | the laser Hawk side and stop him from |
| 5508s | being scrambed he could have mjd'd away |
| 5510s | from safety but unfortunately it wasn't |
| 5512s | the case we now only have one DPS a ship |
| 5514s | left from Cindy here and it's that Loki |
| 5516s | and he is bouncing up his health is |
| 5518s | bouncing up and down up and down but I |
| 5520s | don't think it's going to be going for |
| 5521s | too much longer |
| 5523s | yeah it does seem like they put a lot of |
| 5525s | ancillator Shield boosters on everything |
| 5527s | I'm sure once this Loki runs out of |
| 5528s | Shield booster charge it's going to drop |
| 5529s | but the Stormbreaker also is tackled and |
| 5532s | dropping at the same time uh |
| 5534s | I don't know I feel that like |
| 5536s | Singularity Syndicate really like both |
| 5538s | teams kind of failed really hard here on |
| 5541s | both kiting and tackling but at the end |
| 5543s | of the day laser Hawks does have a lot |
| 5544s | more projection uh the Stormbreaker did |
| 5546s | get tackled down and is being solo pvp'd |
| 5548s | right now by the Hyperion while the long |
| 5550s | range Battleship shoot at the Loki |
| 5552s | um not a lot of |
| 5554s | damage coming out from Singularity the |
| 5556s | entire time stormier does get sold by |
| 5558s | the Hyperion uh and just honestly I hate |
| 5561s | to say this but laser hawks's tackle |
| 5563s | Wing just did so little it was all the |
| 5565s | battleships driving up to stuff and |
| 5567s | grabbing it so |
| 5568s | yeah it's kind of an interesting image |
| 5572s | if you've got four good enough |
| 5573s | Battleship Pilots as we've seen in a |
| 5575s | couple of matches earlier today they |
| 5577s | just present so much ehp and so much DPS |
| 5580s | so that it's difficult to really beat |
| 5581s | them |
| 5583s | especially in a sort of a lower skilled |
| 5585s | environment like this |
| 5588s | oh are you claiming that the trials are |
| 5590s | a lower skilled environment gen10 |
| 5593s | I mean we're only going to see seven of |
| 5595s | the best teams get out of here and then |
| 5596s | uh you know what however many teams |
| 5599s | haven't forfeited uh are going to be |
| 5601s | sent home with nothing but a pat on the |
| 5604s | back thank you and uh uh everyone |
| 5606s | memeing on them in Reddit |
| 5609s | uh that is definitely true uh we you |
| 5611s | know we are seeing Singularity actually |
| 5613s | kite very well at the end tier |
| 5615s | um maybe if they had done a little bit |
| 5617s | better early on uh I do think you were |
| 5620s | right about the tracking Badger the most |
| 5622s | powerful ship of all time I don't think |
| 5624s | laser Hawks would have actually been |
| 5625s | able to kill anything without it so a |
| 5627s | good call on them four battleships is |
| 5628s | kind of weird but for battleships and a |
| 5630s | tracking badger well I don't know maybe |
| 5632s | maybe that's the secret trick the secret |
| 5634s | sauce |
| 5636s | yeah yeah I have to say I do like that |
| 5638s | Hyperion thought I don't think it's for |
| 5640s | this matchup obviously but generally if |
| 5642s | you've got three High projection |
| 5644s | battleships you should win versus kite |
| 5646s | uh you're gonna be hitting at the same |
| 5648s | ranges as a kite comp in that sort of |
| 5651s | circumstance and you're going to be |
| 5652s | doing so with way more way more ehp |
| 5654s | behind it which enables you to basically |
| 5657s | just sit in the middle of the in the |
| 5658s | middle of the arena and force your |
| 5660s | opponents to run around expend all their |
| 5662s | capacitor and still get shot off the |
| 5664s | back of it and that Hyperion seems like |
| 5666s | it's more there to deal with control |
| 5667s | setups or something similar where you |
| 5670s | are going to have to run into them to do |
| 5671s | anything |
| 5675s | did work |
| 5677s | no I do too it's interesting I like |
| 5679s | interesting stuff is fun but yeah the |
| 5681s | Hyperion pilot did work he was going |
| 5683s | around tackling everything and that's |
| 5685s | pretty cool this carries being the last |
| 5687s | one to fall uh kind of an interesting |
| 5689s | shift we've seen it a few times I feel |
| 5691s | like it didn't really do much this match |
| 5692s | but that is what it is uh |
| 5696s | maybe you're gonna die holding out like |
| 5698s | 20 structure ah there we go all right |
| 5700s | and uh with that laser Hawks does win |
| 5702s | 100 points to 23 and we're gonna send it |
| 5704s | back to the desk |
| 5708s | we who have seen war will never stop |
| 5711s | seeing it in the Silence of the night we |
| 5715s | will always hear the screams so this is |
| 5718s | our story wolves amongst strangers |
| 5723s | did you know that anything can happen in |
| 5726s | Alfred fleets |
| 5728s | are you still shaving sir Jesus why you |
| 5732s | must have some big balls yeah |
| 5733s | [Laughter] |
| 5735s | yeah literally anything |
| 5745s | thank you |
| 5747s | [Music] |
| 5762s | [Music] |
| 5771s | [Music] |
| 5776s | foreign |
| 5777s | [Music] |
| 5787s | [Music] |
| 5801s | Hawks there showing that uh Amar Victor |
| 5805s | is the true way to think about these |
| 5808s | these matches here Minotaur it's all |
| 5811s | about the lasers |
| 5813s | um so mystical might uh what happened |
| 5816s | there for Singularity Syndicate just it |
| 5819s | was mentioned I think by some of the |
| 5820s | casters in it that these long-range |
| 5822s | battleships which is able to project |
| 5823s | across all over the place but could |
| 5825s | Singularity something had done anything |
| 5827s | different and taken a w there |
| 5830s | I think they were doing well at |
| 5832s | surviving initially we saw that that |
| 5834s | Drake Navy issue dropped fairly low but |
| 5836s | was caught by the Basilisk when they |
| 5838s | managed to pull some range and they |
| 5839s | applied their damps to the projection |
| 5841s | team of laser Hawks but really it fell |
| 5844s | apart when the basilis decided to switch |
| 5847s | sides and burn into the laser Hawk |
| 5849s | Battleship blob |
| 5851s | um they weren't so welcoming so |
| 5852s | unfortunately he was killed and that |
| 5855s | essentially sealed the Fate I think for |
| 5856s | the singularity team with no Logistics |
| 5859s | and no real way of preventing those |
| 5862s | battleships to burn around I will say I |
| 5864s | think the singularity team had a harpy |
| 5867s | um I'm not entirely sure |
| 5870s | depending down some of the uh the |
| 5872s | battleships on the laser Hawk side but I |
| 5876s | would have liked to see him do some |
| 5878s | flyby scramms perhaps just to slow down |
| 5881s | the Hyperion |
| 5883s | um and the apocs and the abandon just to |
| 5886s | move their position or force them to |
| 5888s | reposition a little bit more |
| 5891s | yeah the um those arcs team brought a |
| 5894s | couple of perhaps unusual ships in that |
| 5896s | comp there uh they brought the infamous |
| 5899s | battle Badger which by the way a second |
| 5901s | time we've seen today it's now |
| 5902s | one-on-one on the day if you're keeping |
| 5904s | track at home |
| 5905s | um and they also in a ranged laser |
| 5908s | sniper comp brought a blaster Hyperion |
| 5913s | um why not why would you why would you |
| 5915s | bring up a short range of blaster |
| 5917s | Hyperion with some long-range |
| 5919s | battleships what were the reasons behind |
| 5920s | that maybe be |
| 5922s | so I'm not in their brain so I can't |
| 5924s | confirm this entirely but I feel like it |
| 5926s | was kind of like a protection against |
| 5927s | the Blaster potentially like if there's |
| 5928s | a windy coming at you have the hype just |
| 5930s | hold him because hype pretty much can |
| 5932s | tank any battleship one on one so it |
| 5934s | could maybe be something along those |
| 5935s | lines it could be maybe it's a more |
| 5936s | aggressive ship |
| 5938s | the one thing I actually like that we |
| 5939s | talked about the Battle Badger they have |
| 5941s | four battleships all neon cap boosters |
| 5943s | there how many 3200 can you get into a |
| 5945s | badger |
| 5946s | you can fill it for the 3200s because |
| 5948s | each Battleship only carry about seven |
| 5950s | so now you can get like what 20 30 40 |
| 5952s | more I don't think I needed to do it but |
| 5954s | the option was there |
| 5955s | so you know all vouchers plus Badger I'm |
| 5958s | all for it let's go I want to see more |
| 5960s | of that |
| 5961s | nice now I want to take a quick moment |
| 5963s | uh mystical and uh answer a question |
| 5966s | that we had together on in twitch chat |
| 5968s | um from Nova valentis he was asking |
| 5970s | about |
| 5971s | um why sometimes when a match starts we |
| 5973s | see Pilots sitting at zero velocity for |
| 5976s | you know 30 as long as even 60 seconds |
| 5978s | you know why aren't they doing something |
| 5980s | at the start of the match |
| 5982s | yeah so there's a few different reasons |
| 5985s | that I could put forward as to why some |
| 5988s | people just decided not to move at the |
| 5990s | beginning of the match one the more |
| 5993s | likely one is that they've double |
| 5995s | clicked or tried to move too early in |
| 5997s | the countdown |
| 5998s | um so for anyone that's not aware when |
| 6001s | you are on the grid at the beginning of |
| 6003s | the match |
| 6004s | your ship movement is blocked so you're |
| 6007s | not actually able to move your ship |
| 6008s | around until the timer hits zero and |
| 6011s | you're given the go to start flying |
| 6013s | around and shooting the other two if you |
| 6015s | double click too early that command |
| 6016s | won't go through so when the match |
| 6019s | actually does start you just sit there |
| 6021s | zero Ms while the enemy team Burns at |
| 6023s | you or shoots at you |
| 6025s | it's pretty rough right |
| 6027s | um so I would say you know I'm double |
| 6029s | clicking too early or just the stress of |
| 6031s | the situation but sometimes ships just |
| 6033s | don't need to burn around no if you are |
| 6035s | a projection ship typically a gunboat |
| 6038s | burning will reduce your tracking on the |
| 6040s | enemy team so if you know that you're in |
| 6042s | no real risk of dying immediately it |
| 6045s | does give you the option to apply some |
| 6047s | damage a little bit better at the start |
| 6049s | of the match and that mic that might |
| 6050s | allow you to to sniper a key ship really |
| 6054s | early on |
| 6055s | yeah lots of people who've uh played Eve |
| 6059s | online know about the the combat shakes |
| 6061s | and things like that and they can be |
| 6062s | they can be real no matter how long |
| 6064s | you've been playing if you're new or |
| 6066s | even experienced in the alliance |
| 6067s | tournament I Know Myself uh like you you |
| 6069s | get teleported into the system and you |
| 6071s | feel your heart rate go up a little bit |
| 6072s | and then you warp end it ranges and |
| 6074s | you've been told hey warp it 50 and |
| 6076s | you're like super careful like just |
| 6078s | double checking you're working to the |
| 6079s | right thing like three times and then |
| 6081s | you walk to 50 panicking the whole way |
| 6083s | that you're somehow you're gonna land at |
| 6084s | like 90. uh and then you get there and |
| 6087s | you know a Target caller starts like |
| 6089s | calling out the strategy and everyone's |
| 6090s | sort of like getting prepared then the |
| 6092s | countdown happens and all of a sudden |
| 6093s | like it just becomes super stressful |
| 6096s | like it's a really intense moment and uh |
| 6098s | I can remember like you know hand |
| 6100s | shaking and things like that trying to |
| 6101s | trying to do things it's a great |
| 6103s | experience to have but yeah it's very |
| 6105s | easy to make mistakes like double |
| 6106s | clicking a little bit too early and then |
| 6108s | just not realizing it um it's it's you |
| 6111s | know happens to to the best of us |
| 6114s | um let's look forward to our next match |
| 6116s | because I'm excited about this one it's |
| 6118s | going to be extras versus Shadow cartel |
| 6120s | uh Exodus took a uh pretty decent comp |
| 6124s | yesterday uh and told her he saw it when |
| 6127s | we packed them as one of the other teams |
| 6128s | we expect to see come through uh this |
| 6131s | feeder trials |
| 6133s | shadow shadow cartel didn't perform as |
| 6135s | well as perhaps uh they would have hoped |
| 6138s | um but unless they hope to lose in which |
| 6140s | case they performed exactly as they |
| 6141s | hoped |
| 6142s | um I think at this point they need to |
| 6144s | pull out a win here but it's gonna be |
| 6145s | very tricky against a team as good as |
| 6147s | Exodus |
| 6148s | what do you think uh should I could tell |
| 6151s | I'm going to be kind of thinking here |
| 6154s | Exodus are very good tournament Pilots |
| 6157s | very good so you know that you probably |
| 6159s | have to bring everything you've got or |
| 6160s | something that you think you can outly |
| 6162s | or maybe out into the Nexus team it's |
| 6166s | definitely like you know you're going to |
| 6167s | come up against a high bar this you're |
| 6168s | getting against one of the best teams at |
| 6170s | the start |
| 6171s | that is |
| 6173s | you don't get time to warm up mate |
| 6174s | you're already in it |
| 6176s | so I suspect they're gonna bring |
| 6177s | something really good maybe they'll |
| 6178s | bring something tightly off the wall |
| 6180s | but I suspect we're going to see |
| 6182s | hopefully a very strong cop |
| 6185s | I think we have a Time quickly to look |
| 6187s | at the bands uh for shadow cattell and |
| 6189s | exodus so extra is bringing uh or |
| 6192s | Banning sorry balgorn and Loki so pretty |
| 6194s | common to see the balgown band at this |
| 6196s | point uh and we've seen a bunch of Loki |
| 6198s | bands people afraid of those kiting the |
| 6200s | Nighthawk ham rush for example Charlotte |
| 6203s | cartel Banning The Gila not really seen |
| 6206s | much of them and the Ishtar so it looks |
| 6207s | like they're trying to take out uh drone |
| 6210s | comp specifically Misty why why maybe |
| 6212s | the Gila and the Ishtar instead of say |
| 6213s | the EOS |
| 6216s | it's an interesting choice to ban the |
| 6219s | Ishtar and the Gila specifically The |
| 6220s | Gila makes a bit more sense because |
| 6223s | um garista ships for anyone who's not |
| 6224s | too aware can only drop two drones |
| 6228s | um of their respective type at one time |
| 6230s | right so a gila can only drop two medium |
| 6232s | drones but they are heavily bonus so |
| 6235s | they are tankier and they will apply |
| 6237s | more damage than a typical medium drone |
| 6239s | would so it makes sense to uh to ban |
| 6242s | that if you're worried about the |
| 6243s | application of gila drones to your |
| 6246s | support Wing perhaps with the Ishtar I |
| 6249s | feel like you can replace the edge tile |
| 6250s | with a number of different ships |
| 6253s | um like the stratios for example you've |
| 6254s | got Vex Navy issues or the vexes |
| 6257s | um not as good as the Ishtar since this |
| 6260s | shot does have its little panic button |
| 6262s | where it hits it it's damage control |
| 6266s | and it gets a resist buff for a short |
| 6269s | period of time |
| 6270s | but yeah I mean maybe they've just come |
| 6272s | across in practice and they don't want |
| 6274s | to have to deal with it here I also I |
| 6275s | just want to say I don't know if Shadow |
| 6277s | cartels played yet so I think you're |
| 6279s | preemptively flaming them for losing |
| 6282s | yesterday they might they might very |
| 6286s | well lose here |
| 6287s | um but yeah I'm not sure if they've |
| 6288s | played yet so I think this is their |
| 6290s | first match so far |
| 6292s | well there you go I take it all back if |
| 6294s | they haven't already played if they have |
| 6295s | played then I don't take anything back I |
| 6297s | stand by everything that I have said |
| 6299s | um we're pretty much ready to go to the |
| 6300s | match uh interesting point of note one |
| 6302s | of the ships on the ShadowCraft side uh |
| 6305s | did the full path the the shakes got to |
| 6307s | him and he warped to the sun rather than |
| 6309s | the arena and thus their Sky breaker has |
| 6311s | been moved to zero uh which is usually |
| 6314s | considered a sub-optimal but it's time |
| 6316s | to go to that Arena and find out who can |
| 6319s | win between Exodus and Shadow cartel |
| 6321s | with your commentator zoo and bbp |
| 6329s | and welcome to the arena with here it's |
| 6331s | Exodus versus Shadow Patel I am zurok |
| 6333s | joined here by Blackboard pirate and |
| 6336s | we're seeing a massive increase again in |
| 6338s | battleships here on grid with four |
| 6340s | battleships coming on the shadow |
| 6341s | quartile side here PPD |
| 6344s | um and more control what do you think of |
| 6346s | the battleship choices for both teams |
| 6347s | right now |
| 6349s | well I think that uh |
| 6351s | Exodus is bringing like we've seen it a |
| 6353s | couple times now this heavy missile |
| 6355s | launcher rapid heavy missile launcher |
| 6356s | armor setup but what's interesting is |
| 6358s | Shadow cartels four Battleship setup |
| 6361s | they're warped at zero and every single |
| 6363s | one of them is close range fit including |
| 6365s | a torpedo typhoon Fleet issue so Shadow |
| 6368s | cartel has a massive amount of |
| 6370s | anti-battleship DPS here which may be |
| 6372s | something that will be extremely |
| 6374s | dangerous when going up against Exodus |
| 6376s | and exodus realizes this they're |
| 6377s | actually kiting away as fast as they |
| 6379s | possibly can because I think they know |
| 6380s | that if they get tackled down to those |
| 6381s | battleships they're gonna die very very |
| 6383s | quickly Exodus is also working on |
| 6385s | clearing the tackle right away see a big |
| 6386s | cloud of drones going out uh for |
| 6387s | publicly fire Taylor jancini is already |
| 6389s | taking Mass amounts of damage this is up |
| 6391s | to Shadow cartel to get on top as fast |
| 6393s | as possible and I'm actually not seeing |
| 6394s | their battleships moving that fast |
| 6397s | yeah going in there that ironically |
| 6399s | enough The Tempest on Shadow Qatar being |
| 6401s | the laggy one behind not too sure if you |
| 6403s | forgot to fit a prop or just the wrong |
| 6404s | one right now but he's lagging the |
| 6406s | Armageddon on Charlotte Hotel side is |
| 6408s | also full nudes not seeing any hard |
| 6409s | points as well so while they do have |
| 6411s | four battleships they do still only have |
| 6413s | a three Battleship uh EPS score so |
| 6416s | that's the same on both sides there so |
| 6418s | that's still going to match up just how |
| 6419s | these teams use the support but speaking |
| 6421s | of support we are just seeing Shadow |
| 6422s | cartel support kind of getting shredded |
| 6424s | here right now not exactly sure they're |
| 6426s | just so all the kind of pressure applied |
| 6427s | to right now the visual Fleet Sky |
| 6429s | breaker all that light stuff the things |
| 6431s | that might be vital for that application |
| 6432s | later in the game especially for |
| 6434s | something like Torpedoes which are going |
| 6435s | to be coming from that Fleet Boon |
| 6437s | um if that application gets uh deleted |
| 6439s | they're gonna have a real hard time |
| 6441s | applying these Torpedoes to anything |
| 6443s | that's not a huge chunky Battleship |
| 6444s | right now |
| 6446s | um but they're trying to split their DPS |
| 6447s | maybe trying to split the focus of these |
| 6449s | freak lodging right now |
| 6452s | yeah it does look like they're doing |
| 6453s | they're doing something at the very |
| 6455s | least here uh it looks like this visual |
| 6456s | Fleet will go down the shadow cartel |
| 6458s | Battleship group is uh still continue to |
| 6460s | be kited away there I feel like there's |
| 6462s | a moment where they almost were able to |
| 6463s | grab one of the typhoon fleetishes of |
| 6465s | Exodus but they just weren't able to |
| 6467s | handle it and uh you know like you said |
| 6469s | it's if they can't get on top of |
| 6470s | anything if they get screened if their |
| 6472s | backing goes down it's not really going |
| 6473s | to matter and exodus is just flying away |
| 6476s | um I'm almost wondering you might be |
| 6478s | right they might have fit the wrong prop |
| 6479s | mod because Shadow cartel's battleships |
| 6481s | are uh struggling to break a thousand |
| 6483s | meters a second where exoduses are all |
| 6485s | moving at around 1400 to 1600 so uh |
| 6489s | their plan I mean maybe they are After |
| 6491s | Burner fit maybe they're just having |
| 6493s | trouble clicking the plus button to the |
| 6495s | maximum I'm not sure here but they are |
| 6497s | not really applying anything right now |
| 6499s | there should still be microwave drives |
| 6501s | maybe they're going for more plates uh |
| 6503s | which are being slowing them down hoping |
| 6505s | to survive uh more of these King Slayer |
| 6507s | rapid kind of comps we've seen uh we are |
| 6509s | seeing Excellence position in their |
| 6511s | jackdorn Magus in a good position to |
| 6513s | intercept any battleship that might |
| 6515s | break uh in behind into enemy line so |
| 6517s | making sure they're keeping up that |
| 6518s | screen unfortunately it does still put |
| 6520s | them into position where we're seeing |
| 6521s | the props uh being muted out from this |
| 6524s | armaged and armor getting getting a |
| 6526s | ridiculous bonus to neutralizers so able |
| 6529s | to knock out these little ships props to |
| 6531s | stop them from running away |
| 6533s | um but and it's not even if they knock |
| 6535s | them out I'm not sure if they're going |
| 6536s | to be able to finish them off |
| 6538s | um so it seems like well uh Shadow |
| 6541s | quartal is creeping up there the damage |
| 6543s | is creeping up on them as this Tempest |
| 6545s | is going into half armor and not much to |
| 6549s | show for it right now |
| 6552s | well shadow cartoon has actually gotten |
| 6554s | tackle on something finally but it |
| 6555s | wasn't agar Navy issue which is a |
| 6557s | notoriously tanky and you're right they |
| 6560s | might trade a tempest for an agar Navy |
| 6562s | issue not really a situation you want to |
| 6564s | be in the hyena of Exodus has actually |
| 6566s | been doing really good work kind of |
| 6567s | cycling its webs onto different ships to |
| 6569s | slow them down uh which is why Shadow |
| 6572s | cartel was trying it to do something to |
| 6574s | it it does seem that budget in the |
| 6576s | Tempest is stabilizing a bit I think |
| 6577s | that the rapid Heavies on Exodus aside |
| 6579s | have probably clipped and we will see if |
| 6582s | the auger is Navy issue is able to be |
| 6583s | taken down here hopefully for shadow |
| 6586s | cartel they're going to be able to do |
| 6587s | enough damage to it to force something |
| 6589s | to happen here but so far it seems to be |
| 6591s | tanking pretty well |
| 6593s | now that's actually a pretty bad sign |
| 6595s | for shadow cartelier when you're going |
| 6597s | all in on this close as well use the |
| 6599s | visual Fleet issue there as you're if |
| 6600s | you're going all in on on this real |
| 6602s | Brawley style comps making choices like |
| 6604s | a full Newt getting torpedo Fleet phone |
| 6606s | and you catch something and you can't |
| 6609s | break it |
| 6611s | um that's really not a good sign for |
| 6612s | your future kill potential of anything |
| 6613s | so if they lose any key part of their |
| 6616s | strategy that being like the visual |
| 6618s | Fleet issue they just lost which is |
| 6620s | going to be that webs they needed for |
| 6621s | application for something like Torpedoes |
| 6623s | it's gonna start looking worse and worse |
| 6625s | so while this auger isn't a really tough |
| 6628s | spot the Magus on the other side of |
| 6629s | Shadow quartile goes down and in a |
| 6631s | couple of minutes they'll be losing |
| 6633s | their links and it might see the Tempest |
| 6635s | might be holding out now but once those |
| 6637s | links expire on him he could be in a |
| 6639s | much worse position as the older Navy |
| 6641s | issue goes down on the exit side |
| 6644s | yeah they did finally get some points on |
| 6646s | the board so that's something but you |
| 6647s | know you're right losing the links like |
| 6648s | the single links boat alone that's going |
| 6650s | to be massive um probably have about 30 |
| 6653s | seconds to a minute before the uh |
| 6655s | ability for them to tank in any way |
| 6656s | shape or form is completely destroyed |
| 6658s | here we're seeing this temp is finally |
| 6659s | start to bleed structure a little bit uh |
| 6662s | I believe that they're probably going to |
| 6663s | be able to take him down they should |
| 6664s | have enough missiles left to finish him |
| 6666s | off and these the stallion Deacon are |
| 6668s | just not repping anywhere near enough uh |
| 6670s | budget does drop and that means that now |
| 6673s | uh Shadow cartel is in a really bad |
| 6676s | situation |
| 6678s | yeah we're about halfway through this |
| 6679s | match but it looks like Shadow crotero |
| 6681s | is well on their way to the dumpster |
| 6682s | right now still putting up a bit of a |
| 6684s | fight but it seems just like a useless |
| 6686s | slow struggle while your enemy uh your |
| 6689s | buffering armor teams yet one of you |
| 6691s | seems to be much more mobile this could |
| 6693s | be going back to what you were |
| 6694s | mentioning with a single link ship |
| 6696s | um having to make a choice as Shadow |
| 6698s | Hotel loses their audio there so they |
| 6700s | probably had to make some sacrifices on |
| 6702s | which links they wanted to bring |
| 6704s | um ewall bringing a lot more predominant |
| 6705s | in this matter with the focus scripts uh |
| 6707s | that people are allowed to bring so info |
| 6710s | Link's been really valuable with the |
| 6711s | sensor optimization for lock range being |
| 6713s | very important against amps |
| 6716s | um and then you need to make Choice do |
| 6717s | you want resist for your armor do you |
| 6719s | want the repairs do you want to go fast |
| 6722s | and when you only have two or three link |
| 6724s | slots on one little ship you're gonna be |
| 6727s | sacrificing somewhere |
| 6730s | yeah I think that you know they |
| 6733s | definitely got outspeed that is a that |
| 6735s | is an official technical term here as we |
| 6737s | are finally seeing the fleet typhoon and |
| 6738s | Fleet Tempest of Shadow cartel actually |
| 6740s | break the shockingly quick speed of a |
| 6743s | thousand meters a second which is uh not |
| 6746s | even close to enough they have lost |
| 6748s | their deacon now the fleet typhoon is |
| 6750s | dropping into low armor and you know |
| 6752s | Exodus yeah they lost the Navy auger um |
| 6755s | that was totally fine I mean they |
| 6756s | stopped the entirety of Shadow cartel |
| 6758s | they just kited them out with armor |
| 6759s | battleships for you know seven minutes |
| 6761s | straight and just incredibly well played |
| 6764s | on The Exodus part uh recognizing the |
| 6767s | danger and getting away from it uh Liam |
| 6768s | in the Tempest Fleet issue is dropping |
| 6770s | here now and I I don't I think Shadow |
| 6773s | cartels dead in the water like there's |
| 6774s | very little chance unless Exodus decided |
| 6777s | to start boundarying that they can pull |
| 6778s | this back |
| 6779s | yeah I think the unfortunate flow here |
| 6782s | in Shadow cartel strategy is they've got |
| 6785s | a nice core going for them uh that you |
| 6787s | can't deny it's definitely something |
| 6788s | scary to deal with but their problem was |
| 6790s | likely just grabbing things uh you can't |
| 6793s | really take advantage of fast tackle |
| 6795s | that flies out and grabs things when |
| 6797s | you're using frig logic because the |
| 6798s | friglogy might be limited on speed or |
| 6801s | range you don't want to separate that |
| 6802s | too much so that tackle cannot |
| 6804s | overextend so normally you'd see teams |
| 6806s | taking advantage of things like hyenas |
| 6808s | which in a sense can still fly out but |
| 6810s | it has a massive range bonus we have |
| 6812s | even seen some hugens and rapiers |
| 6814s | um but it seems like Shadow cartel opted |
| 6816s | for the vigil Fleet issue so while it is |
| 6818s | a Minotaur Republic bonus ship which has |
| 6821s | a discount and applies for tiebreakers |
| 6824s | um it doesn't have really good bonuses |
| 6826s | it has more of just a flat roll bonus to |
| 6828s | webs I think pushing to 15 kilometers |
| 6831s | without any links and that again comes |
| 6833s | back to the whole link sacrifice we're |
| 6835s | talking out before like now we want our |
| 6837s | ships to go fast or do we want our webs |
| 6839s | to reach further so it seems like a big |
| 6841s | flaw in Shadow cartel's comp here was |
| 6843s | they just weren't really able to grab |
| 6845s | something so that these battleships |
| 6846s | could actually fly towards it and kill |
| 6848s | it in a reasonable amount of time |
| 6851s | well you know that's a sacrifice you're |
| 6853s | gonna have to make I mean if you drop 78 |
| 6855s | points into four battleships like you |
| 6857s | really do need to have some way of |
| 6859s | getting them on top of stuff and you |
| 6860s | know props to Shadow cartel they did |
| 6861s | work everything in at zero I think that |
| 6863s | against maybe a uh a less experienced |
| 6866s | team than Exodus they probably would |
| 6869s | have done a lot better but Exodus saw |
| 6870s | that and were like okay well we got to |
| 6872s | get away from these people they burned |
| 6874s | away as fast as possible and I mean we |
| 6876s | just it sucks for shadow cartel they got |
| 6878s | guided for you know nine minutes |
| 6881s | straight in battleships but like you |
| 6883s | said that's what happens you know so you |
| 6884s | got to bring those tackles that's why |
| 6885s | you got to bring the other stuff and |
| 6887s | uh yeah I I don't know also the lynx |
| 6890s | thing that's pretty bad like not even |
| 6892s | being able to catch them is not a good |
| 6894s | situation and just just totally handled |
| 6897s | my Exodus very very well played on their |
| 6899s | part |
| 6901s | exactly so lost Romania ship here from |
| 6903s | Shadow cartel is Tiny Armageddon he |
| 6906s | might be cold tiny but I'm sure he has a |
| 6908s | very big heart just waiting it out till |
| 6910s | the the match is done not going for the |
| 6912s | boundary as we have one minute left here |
| 6914s | he's just gonna sit there take his |
| 6916s | punishment he's done what he's can |
| 6919s | um but unfortunately just not much to do |
| 6920s | at this point |
| 6923s | um yeah I think like he's saying |
| 6924s | brilliant job by Exodus just showing |
| 6926s | that pattern normally you see this kind |
| 6927s | of maneuverable piling coming through on |
| 6929s | Shield comp so and again |
| 6931s | um not to two accidents horn too much |
| 6933s | and uh get their egos going here but |
| 6936s | um seeing an armor team uh in a sense |
| 6938s | flying like Shield kite uh well done to |
| 6941s | them obviously in a sense I think there |
| 6943s | was set up uh to display this kind of |
| 6945s | skill due to what shadow Patel brought |
| 6947s | but well done to Exodus again as they |
| 6949s | take this victory over Shadow cartel and |
| 6951s | with that we will go back to the studio |
| 6965s | thank you |
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| 7020s | Shadow cartel they are unfortunately |
| 7022s | taking the L to uh Exodus uh seem to me |
| 7027s | like those cartel ships were better |
| 7029s | suited perhaps to kiting a Poco than uh |
| 7032s | trying to chase down an exodus team in |
| 7034s | this instance uh Wing that cross what |
| 7037s | could Shadow could tell have done better |
| 7039s | in that match other than bringing uh |
| 7041s | ships perhaps with micro warp drives |
| 7044s | honestly it was kind of a hard match for |
| 7047s | them but basically the one thing they |
| 7048s | did wrong was just slowly charged |
| 7050s | towards the enemy the tempers took a bit |
| 7051s | long to get started which might have |
| 7053s | lost to the time they needed |
| 7054s | honestly big respect I think it was Wasa |
| 7057s | in the hyena I think it was him and |
| 7059s | maybe the uh other small ships just |
| 7061s | stopping those battleships and being |
| 7062s | able to build speakers the battleships |
| 7064s | they're slow they take a little while to |
| 7065s | build up if you just keep webbing them |
| 7067s | and webbing them webbing them you don't |
| 7069s | need to hold the whip as long as we slow |
| 7070s | them down they could never catch up they |
| 7073s | could have maybe tried MJ Dean in front |
| 7075s | of them or try something else but that |
| 7077s | was that was just a painful treadmill to |
| 7079s | be on I I've been in that situation it |
| 7080s | is not fun |
| 7083s | mystical my Anthem to add to that |
| 7086s | yeah I was going to say that um I don't |
| 7088s | think Shadow could tell we're |
| 7090s | effectively using their ships |
| 7092s | um in their effort to chase down the |
| 7094s | Exodus team the gedden is a ship that's |
| 7098s | quite scary in 80 format because it has |
| 7100s | long range nukes |
| 7102s | um that can be applied you know 30 40 50 |
| 7105s | kilometers with diminishing effects |
| 7107s | depending on how far away you are from |
| 7109s | the garden but they spent the the entire |
| 7112s | time newting the logistics frigates |
| 7114s | which if you have something pinned down |
| 7116s | and you're applying your damage is a |
| 7119s | very good strategy but they should have |
| 7121s | been using those newts to slow down the |
| 7123s | Exodus battleships allowing them to get |
| 7124s | on top of them by turning off their |
| 7126s | promods which is just something that |
| 7128s | they didn't really seem to be looking to |
| 7130s | do so yeah they |
| 7132s | could have flown it much better |
| 7135s | I also wanted to ask you about that Fire |
| 7137s | tail Choice Misty uh we've seen another |
| 7139s | team earlier on bring a fire tail it's |
| 7141s | not usually a ship we see very often in |
| 7143s | the alliance tournament is it purely |
| 7145s | because of trying to get those mimitar |
| 7148s | rust points or is there another good |
| 7149s | reason to bring a fire tail |
| 7152s | I think it's a fairly flexible ship |
| 7154s | especially when it's armor fit because |
| 7156s | it has a number of mids that you can put |
| 7157s | towards webs and scrams so you're |
| 7160s | typically going to be using that fire |
| 7162s | Tail as a fast tackle boat and it was |
| 7164s | flown fairly well in that shotok hotel |
| 7166s | match it didn't look like it because it |
| 7168s | died at the very beginning but |
| 7171s | when the Sherlock Hotel support Wing was |
| 7173s | being shot they burned towards their |
| 7175s | Logistics frigates that were damped by |
| 7176s | the extra smallest because they'd |
| 7179s | communicated that they didn't have that |
| 7180s | much lock range and they know that the |
| 7183s | rep range on Logistics frigates is |
| 7184s | fairly short so it's about 15 kilometers |
| 7186s | optimal on an armor Logistics forget |
| 7191s | so it was flowing well but |
| 7193s | you know it's um yeah it's just a fast |
| 7196s | tackle boat that most strips most teams |
| 7198s | will be utilizing |
| 7199s | um when combined with the fact that it |
| 7201s | is a memital sponsored tournament so it |
| 7203s | also costs less to bring |
| 7206s | awesome awesome and uh Wingnut I wanted |
| 7209s | to also give you a chance uh you were |
| 7211s | calling out uh Wasa QC in that hyena in |
| 7214s | that last match uh not in a bad way but |
| 7215s | for for praise uh what was he doing that |
| 7218s | you think was so important to the uh to |
| 7220s | The Exodus team |
| 7222s | you're doing the honey does well which |
| 7223s | is one part is application the part is |
| 7225s | control and because they highly gets |
| 7227s | long range webs he was just constantly |
| 7229s | just putting a web on for like a second |
| 7230s | or two just slowing down a battleship |
| 7232s | let's switch it to the next one and |
| 7233s | doing it again and then doing it again |
| 7235s | and if you keep that up battleships |
| 7237s | don't accelerate particularly fast so in |
| 7239s | him doing that kept slowing them down |
| 7241s | and he managed to pretty much hold all |
| 7243s | four battleships alone I think I think |
| 7245s | he maybe had a bit of help but even if |
| 7247s | he didn't |
| 7248s | that was just beautiful work that's that |
| 7251s | is using that ship not just to the |
| 7252s | hundred percent like 400 Effectiveness |
| 7255s | you have stopped four it is that's |
| 7258s | how you do it that's how you do it it's |
| 7260s | perfect |
| 7263s | oh there you go Wasa QC of course |
| 7265s | um very well known uh in the catin |
| 7267s | community uh around loserc and the likes |
| 7271s | uh we have one more match uh for you in |
| 7274s | the first half of today's show before we |
| 7275s | take a break and it is going to be the |
| 7278s | network versus we form blob so let's |
| 7280s | take a quick look at the bands for this |
| 7282s | upcoming match |
| 7284s | um the network are Banning the abandon |
| 7288s | and the slept near uh rather interesting |
| 7290s | set of bands they're not I don't think |
| 7292s | we've seen many are bad in bands and |
| 7294s | we're from blob Banning the EOS and the |
| 7296s | bar guests Mr es book I learned about |
| 7297s | the EOS taking out you know pretty |
| 7299s | keyship for that drone comp but why is |
| 7302s | there on a badon band like why are the |
| 7304s | networks so afraid of that and do you |
| 7305s | think maybe something else like the |
| 7306s | Battleground would have been a better |
| 7307s | ban |
| 7309s | so with the abandoned ban I think this |
| 7312s | may be a call back to previous |
| 7313s | tournaments where we saw uh I think it |
| 7315s | was a badon and Oracle comps coming out |
| 7317s | uh it was effectively just like a full |
| 7319s | DPS setup that was meant to put out five |
| 7322s | or six thousand |
| 7324s | um damage |
| 7326s | um |
| 7327s | within you know 50 to 70 kilometers |
| 7329s | right so it's pretty hard to us to avoid |
| 7332s | um and there's also too much damage to |
| 7334s | tank so it may just very well be that |
| 7336s | they've done some testing in the |
| 7338s | background they've tried out that comp |
| 7339s | from previous years and they've gone hey |
| 7341s | you know we don't want to see this we |
| 7343s | don't want our team to have to to deal |
| 7345s | with that much damage coming out |
| 7347s | um on that grid other than that I've got |
| 7349s | no no clue why they would prioritize the |
| 7352s | about Nova literally anything else |
| 7355s | uh one thing to note is we had a comment |
| 7357s | in uh twitch chat from uh third Ferguson |
| 7361s | 13 asking what is a trickle ban uh the |
| 7365s | way bands work in this tournament here |
| 7368s | is uh both teams uh Bland ban blindly so |
| 7372s | they just say hey we're Banning these |
| 7373s | two ships |
| 7374s | um and then the referees take those ones |
| 7376s | and if there's any duplicates of both |
| 7378s | teams for example and a bar guest then |
| 7381s | each team would get one additional |
| 7383s | trickle-down ban if they both ban the |
| 7385s | same two ships they would get two |
| 7386s | trickle-down bands in the main Alliance |
| 7388s | tournament it's three bands each for |
| 7389s | potential of nine total bands depending |
| 7392s | on how it works out so that's what we |
| 7393s | mean by trickle-down bands |
| 7396s | um we have about two minutes to go |
| 7397s | before the uh the last match of the day |
| 7400s | and that's right of the first half of |
| 7403s | this show there's plenty more matches |
| 7404s | today plenty of explosions still to see |
| 7407s | um |
| 7408s | and when we go to that break um it will |
| 7411s | be about 90 minutes I believe uh the |
| 7414s | reason behind the the Brick is we have |
| 7416s | uh the minions who have uh withdrawn |
| 7419s | from the the trials giving Odin's called |
| 7421s | the Victory and then two best of Threes |
| 7424s | which are already decided by Prismatic |
| 7426s | Legion going 2-0 versus shut up and |
| 7428s | trying and bright side of death going to |
| 7430s | know versus hole control so that is the |
| 7433s | uh the reasons behind that break there |
| 7437s | um Wing that cross has been any |
| 7439s | highlight matches thus far today for you |
| 7443s | oh honestly that last one was pretty |
| 7446s | good as it shows what one ship can do |
| 7448s | but honestly it's not really been a bad |
| 7450s | match today like I mean some misplays |
| 7453s | here and there |
| 7454s | oh there's a cat on screen hello |
| 7457s | um it's good um the Ancients match |
| 7460s | I quite like because the Angels had all |
| 7462s | the cards at the start and when the |
| 7464s | blackplayer went down it just all |
| 7465s | collapsed so there's been a lot of good |
| 7467s | matches I thought it would have been a |
| 7469s | bad one I'm actually missing |
| 7481s | to just check in on things make sure |
| 7484s | everything is going all right thank you |
| 7485s | senior director of content thank you for |
| 7487s | uh for coming to check in on us |
| 7489s | um I think we're pretty much ready to go |
| 7490s | to this match between the network and we |
| 7493s | form blob so let's hand over to that now |
| 7495s | uh with the commentators Jin tan and |
| 7498s | black bar pirate |
| 7501s | bye |
| 7506s | welcome back to the alliance tournament |
| 7509s | where unfortunately we do not have cats |
| 7511s | but we do have two teams set up and |
| 7513s | ready to go with the network versus we |
| 7515s | form blob both of them bringing pretty |
| 7517s | heavy armor setups which is kind of |
| 7519s | interesting uh we are seeing a lecheck |
| 7521s | and we are think seeing one of the first |
| 7523s | balgorns of the entire tournament on the |
| 7525s | network side as it is uh one of the most |
| 7527s | banned ships out there uh Jen how do you |
| 7530s | think this is going to go down |
| 7532s | yeah this is going to be a really |
| 7533s | interesting match and it's going to rely |
| 7535s | a lot on the tackle wing of The Blob |
| 7537s | Fleet specifically that Vengeance and |
| 7540s | Mala they're gonna need to get in on top |
| 7541s | of one of those ships and somehow do so |
| 7544s | without getting destroyed by the |
| 7546s | powerful webs and newts of that battle |
| 7548s | gun it's gonna be able to screen so so |
| 7550s | effectively for those two apocalypses uh |
| 7554s | I don't know this is this is gonna be an |
| 7556s | interesting match especially with that |
| 7557s | crucifier on the blob side as well it's |
| 7559s | going to be able to turn off the long |
| 7560s | range damage of those apocal babies that |
| 7562s | said it's in half armor already going |
| 7564s | down very very quickly here |
| 7566s | yeah they uh they recognized it they |
| 7568s | almost popped it right off the bat I |
| 7570s | think it should probably survive now |
| 7572s | that it's actually got some transversal |
| 7573s | up and uh as of note this is a gun |
| 7576s | balgorn so the newts aren't quite as |
| 7578s | oppressive and said gun balgorn actually |
| 7580s | has all three battleships from reform |
| 7582s | blob directly on top of it already with |
| 7584s | that LE Shack ramping up uh the thing |
| 7586s | that I'm a little worried about for the |
| 7588s | network is they don't really have an |
| 7589s | effective way of turning off the shack |
| 7592s | rep unless they get all of the balgorns |
| 7594s | and newts on it so uh eventually this |
| 7596s | will Shack's ramping will be able to |
| 7598s | push through and destroy it it is only a |
| 7601s | matter of time and we are seeing uh |
| 7603s | interestingly off the tip of Fleet is |
| 7605s | actually dropping faster than the |
| 7606s | balgorn for now uh well so I don't know |
| 7609s | we'll see how this one goes |
| 7611s | yeah another one of the interesting uh |
| 7613s | actually sorry both teams have now got |
| 7615s | Brett Bots out so they're trying to |
| 7617s | sustain up this their uh battleships as |
| 7620s | much as possible we've got a little bit |
| 7622s | of a tackle war going on in the back |
| 7623s | lines it looks like the Mala uh actually |
| 7626s | the mellor is tackling the apocalypse |
| 7628s | Navy issue stopping him from getting |
| 7630s | away and getting range uh but that's |
| 7632s | allowing him to just sit there and pound |
| 7634s | conflag directly into the side of that |
| 7636s | uh tempestly issue and we finally got |
| 7639s | the rest of the blob tackle coming in |
| 7641s | here as well uh the Magus and other sort |
| 7644s | of emergency parts of the con you don't |
| 7646s | normally want to use as offensive tackle |
| 7647s | just burning in there uh making a bit |
| 7650s | more presence I I wouldn't be surprised |
| 7651s | if we saw them make a run for The |
| 7653s | Inquisitor or something like that just |
| 7654s | to reduce the amount of sustain that |
| 7657s | this Noir team has going forward as that |
| 7659s | Battleground gets into really really low |
| 7660s | armor it looks like they just can't |
| 7662s | handle the ramp of that LE Shack |
| 7665s | yeah it's the uh the shack ramping is |
| 7667s | very very strong it should take the |
| 7669s | spelling down and unfortunately they |
| 7671s | were not able to take this Tempest Fleet |
| 7672s | issue down uh as soon as those rep Bots |
| 7674s | got on it Tempest sleet issue stabilized |
| 7676s | however the Battleground does drop uh |
| 7677s | the shack damage being incredibly |
| 7679s | dangerous they always you need something |
| 7681s | to turn it off but you know now that |
| 7683s | that's down uh the network has to |
| 7685s | completely change their strategy here |
| 7686s | like you are not going to take down the |
| 7688s | Tempest Fleet issue when you've lost a |
| 7689s | third of your battleship DPS |
| 7692s | yeah I've got to say that this part the |
| 7693s | prophecy and the murmurdon here for the |
| 7695s | Noir team looks really really out of |
| 7696s | place I'm not sure what the theory is |
| 7698s | behind this uh you know they obviously |
| 7701s | give links but they are such fragile |
| 7703s | holes and they don't really provide a |
| 7704s | lot of DPS that they can actually put |
| 7706s | out onto the grid maybe they're using |
| 7708s | those drone Bays for more rep Bots but |
| 7710s | that wasn't enough to keep the ball |
| 7712s | going alive and at this point in the |
| 7713s | match there are effectively just 26 |
| 7715s | points sitting there doing jackal |
| 7718s | well it does look like the mermaidon is |
| 7720s | actually moving in towards the deacon |
| 7721s | now and trying to get uh some Newt |
| 7723s | pressure on it apparently uh so nor you |
| 7726s | know the network is being smart they are |
| 7728s | swapping around their targets a little |
| 7729s | bit but that deacon now has rep Bots |
| 7730s | they just need to like I think we've |
| 7732s | talked about a couple times how just |
| 7734s | absolutely powerful rep Bots are but |
| 7736s | they do have that issue that you can |
| 7738s | swap them around so uh maybe if the |
| 7740s | network can do some like really quick |
| 7741s | Target swapping take some of the links |
| 7743s | down take some of the small stuff down |
| 7744s | that might be uh that might be the only |
| 7747s | way out of this because you know that LE |
| 7748s | Shack is still spooling it is destroying |
| 7750s | this Apocalypse Now and we form blob is |
| 7753s | just you know very very powerful chord |
| 7755s | completely handling it apocalypse is |
| 7757s | dropping into low structure the Thalia |
| 7759s | does actually take a large chunk of |
| 7760s | damage though so you know maybe we'll |
| 7762s | see a little bit of a logic trade here |
| 7763s | possibly |
| 7765s | yeah and we're seeing the apocalypse |
| 7767s | Navy issue of Alexia card their Captain |
| 7768s | just being damped Target disrupted it's |
| 7771s | just having all of the utility possible |
| 7773s | applied to them it's it's entirely |
| 7774s | possible that he wasn't able to lock |
| 7775s | anything uh during the start of that |
| 7778s | fight which would you know that can |
| 7779s | delay your ability to make calls to swap |
| 7782s | over onto new targets uh by a fraction |
| 7785s | of a second and often it matches like |
| 7787s | this that's what matters |
| 7790s | yeah neither the apocalypse does go down |
| 7792s | before they're able to take King |
| 7793s | carnifexes Thalia down and uh I I don't |
| 7797s | know without that I'm not sure if this |
| 7798s | value is going to go down at all uh the |
| 7800s | suite from Vlog bringing a very very |
| 7803s | powerful top end and you know without |
| 7805s | any ability to shut that little Shack |
| 7806s | down it's just gonna drive around ramp |
| 7808s | up to 2000 DPS and just destroy things |
| 7811s | um kind of wondering if the Network's |
| 7812s | regretting bringing those two tech one |
| 7814s | logic frigates now as taekwondology |
| 7815s | frigates are not particularly good ships |
| 7817s | but |
| 7818s | I'm not sure if they have any way of |
| 7820s | getting back from here |
| 7822s | yeah it would take I would take a couple |
| 7824s | of major mistakes from blob they'd need |
| 7826s | to somehow boundary one of their |
| 7828s | battleships as they experience lost at |
| 7831s | with the fraternity just move you know |
| 7833s | flying in Apocalypse Navy out of the |
| 7835s | edge of the arena for them to have any |
| 7837s | chance of coming back into this |
| 7841s | uh I don't know though |
| 7842s | I've got to say I really do like this uh |
| 7844s | blob comp though they've got such a |
| 7847s | tanky a little bit of tackle wig in that |
| 7848s | mall of entrance they've got the |
| 7849s | crucifer and the celesters to disrupt |
| 7852s | your opponent's game plan |
| 7854s | um and then you've got the three massive |
| 7856s | battleships that are just gonna get in |
| 7858s | on top of things and just smack them up |
| 7862s | I I think this is something that maybe |
| 7864s | would be yeah it was a cop lost on |
| 7866s | almost on comp selection here |
| 7869s | I it blast on I think it lost a little |
| 7871s | bit on comp selection and it definitely |
| 7872s | lost a lot on uh actual Target calling |
| 7875s | here |
| 7876s | um just you know the apocalypse and the |
| 7878s | apocalypse Navy and the balgorn like |
| 7880s | those three ships combined is a pretty |
| 7882s | decent amount of laser DPS but it |
| 7884s | actually has very good tracking I think |
| 7885s | that Network they might have been able |
| 7887s | to like pop that celestis pop that Magus |
| 7889s | uh maybe even go after some of the lodgy |
| 7892s | forgets here but I think that after like |
| 7893s | their initial plan of trying to headshot |
| 7895s | the crucifier was a really really good |
| 7897s | one but when it didn't work they're like |
| 7899s | okay well I guess we have to all in a |
| 7901s | battleship now and I I don't think that |
| 7903s | was necessarily their only option here |
| 7905s | um you know this last uh they're the |
| 7907s | captain of Alexi If he if he is the |
| 7910s | captain I know he's definitely the |
| 7911s | leader of the alliance like going down |
| 7912s | here uh pretty much seals the seals the |
| 7915s | fate of the network and |
| 7918s | I guess we'll just have to we'll have to |
| 7919s | hang out and chat while they slowly wipe |
| 7921s | out that bottom end here |
| 7922s | yeah I've got to say you've got to give |
| 7924s | a hand to sejolas in the celestis there |
| 7927s | for blood uh piloting really really |
| 7929s | effectively staying away from the |
| 7931s | staying within optimal range of his |
| 7933s | stamps but never getting particularly |
| 7934s | close to the fight just dancing around |
| 7936s | the edge of it and whilst the visual |
| 7937s | Fleet issue now is uh heading towards |
| 7940s | him might be able to tackle him down at |
| 7941s | long last |
| 7942s | he's effectively sat unmolested for this |
| 7945s | entire match and just stopped Noir from |
| 7948s | doing whatever they wanted to do and |
| 7950s | that's probably why they weren't able to |
| 7951s | shoot the Mala or uh or himself and uh |
| 7954s | you know clear off some of that tackle |
| 7956s | and maybe kite back and extend the game |
| 7958s | a little longer you know if they were |
| 7960s | able to get out of range and break the |
| 7962s | shack spool that would have done so much |
| 7964s | for them in that mid game point because |
| 7966s | if their bowel gone had survived it |
| 7967s | would be having such a huge impact by |
| 7969s | this point in the match uh those newts |
| 7971s | obviously impacting much much impacting |
| 7974s | over time and really coming into their |
| 7976s | own around at this point in the match |
| 7978s | when everyone's cap cap boosters are dry |
| 7981s | you've got nothing left in your cargo |
| 7982s | and you're just hoping that uh hoping |
| 7985s | that you can live off of basically |
| 7987s | native cap Regen |
| 7990s | now that it is a really good point um |
| 7992s | balgorn's you know the longer the match |
| 7994s | goes the more cap uh cap sucking is a |
| 7998s | important thing um I do think that |
| 8000s | honestly the biggest uh mistake the |
| 8002s | network did is they they didn't have any |
| 8003s | ships that were able to counter like a |
| 8006s | triple Battleship core just rushing in |
| 8008s | them especially illuschak I mean you |
| 8010s | know we we don't see the Shacks a huge |
| 8012s | amount because they have such a high |
| 8013s | point value but they are not that |
| 8016s | difficult to shut down uh with you know |
| 8018s | balgore newts with jams with tracking |
| 8020s | disruptors any of those things and you |
| 8022s | know we saw that as soon as it starts |
| 8024s | ramping up like there you can't stop it |
| 8026s | if you can't stop the ramp it is going |
| 8027s | to eventually break your reps and I |
| 8030s | don't know it's just very very |
| 8031s | unfortunate for the network because I I |
| 8033s | like both of these setups |
| 8035s | um I feel like the network were very |
| 8036s | much prepared to fight up against maybe |
| 8038s | like a kiting setup of some kind or some |
| 8040s | drones and they just weren't expecting |
| 8042s | to have three battleships go on top of |
| 8044s | them at zero and just punch through |
| 8045s | their reps here yeah we finally see a |
| 8048s | couple of ships just uh going towards |
| 8049s | the edge of glory and boundaring |
| 8051s | themselves out of the Arena we can see |
| 8052s | the visual Fleet issue there probably |
| 8054s | going for a potential record because |
| 8056s | that ship is very very fast |
| 8059s | um |
| 8059s | but yeah it's a it's a very very clean |
| 8062s | execution here from blob as well uh kind |
| 8064s | of the opposite of what they saw what we |
| 8066s | saw in their previous match |
| 8067s | where they knew what they had to do to |
| 8069s | win and then they just went straight |
| 8071s | through with it they didn't uh didn't |
| 8074s | get distracted by anything |
| 8076s | and execute on the game plan now just |
| 8078s | that Navitas left do you think we're |
| 8080s | going to see more The Shack bands coming |
| 8081s | through as teams have started to really |
| 8083s | show their Shack cults uh and show how |
| 8086s | far |
| 8088s | you know I I think that it's possible um |
| 8091s | especially I believe Odin's brought to |
| 8093s | the Shacks which is one more than one |
| 8095s | lashac it also makes it a twice as good |
| 8097s | setup uh |
| 8099s | that's very possible I think there are |
| 8101s | other ways to counter it but I I do |
| 8103s | think something I've noticed about today |
| 8104s | as opposed to yesterday is that some of |
| 8106s | the teams that maybe performed a little |
| 8108s | weekly yesterday and brought some kind |
| 8110s | of weird setups have been doing much |
| 8111s | much better today so I'm I'm thinking |
| 8113s | we're still going to see some more |
| 8115s | interesting and exciting matches uh |
| 8117s | definitely much more impressed by blob |
| 8119s | today than we were yesterday |
| 8121s | um the network unfortunately also |
| 8123s | actually brought I think they they |
| 8125s | piloted better too they just kind of got |
| 8127s | counted a little bit here but they do |
| 8129s | lose their last ship with the Tequan |
| 8132s | novitas eventually getting blown up and |
| 8135s | with that we are going to throw it back |
| 8136s | to Ithaca and the boys who will set us |
| 8138s | up for the break |
| 8140s | now for the triglovian weather report |
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| 8144s | integration |
| 8146s | [Music] |
| 8152s | and that's the weather forever |
| 8162s | [Music] |
| 8163s | for just 10 million ISC a month you can |
| 8166s | save the life of a high-sec minor |
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| 8193s | thank you |
| 8201s | we form blob taking that Victory there |
| 8204s | and securing themselves runner up in the |
| 8207s | Tucker a tribe eliminating the network |
| 8210s | from Alliance tournament 18 contention |
| 8213s | we actually have our first two tribes |
| 8216s | now uh basically set up with some teams |
| 8219s | eliminated some teams moving forward so |
| 8222s | uh Tucker a has been won by ahil NA with |
| 8225s | we form blob as the runner-up soccer B |
| 8228s | won by Prismatic region with shut up I'm |
| 8230s | trying sitting in that number two spot |
| 8232s | in cbs38 is Odin's call is the winner |
| 8236s | with seriously suspicious as the |
| 8238s | runner-up and say he has to be bright |
| 8240s | side of death winning it with full |
| 8242s | control taking that number two spot so |
| 8244s | there you have it the first of the |
| 8245s | tribes have been decided that means that |
| 8247s | next week those teams will be back they |
| 8250s | will be fighting in a playoff situation |
| 8252s | now to move forward and win the total |
| 8255s | tribe so soccer itself will only submit |
| 8257s | one team of the four that I just |
| 8260s | mentioned |
| 8262s | Prismatic region and shut up I'm trying |
| 8264s | so they will have to Juke it out and |
| 8265s | decide who can make it through the |
| 8267s | alliance Tournament of course the second |
| 8268s | place of the whole tribe will get a spot |
| 8271s | in the Redemption Arc tribe so they will |
| 8274s | have some more matches to play and |
| 8276s | potentially grab that last spot for |
| 8279s | Alliance tournament 18. |
| 8281s | um it is time for us to take a break uh |
| 8283s | so we will do that now and we'll be back |
| 8285s | for the high SEC minors versus kitchen |
| 8288s | sinkhole match uh which is scheduled for |
| 8290s | 1840 Eve time we will see you then take |
| 8294s | care |
| 8297s | foreign |
| 8302s | to day two of Alliance tournament 18 uh |
| 8307s | trials the momentary trials I am joined |
| 8309s | by uh black white pirate and sitting |
| 8312s | upon his vessel moderator mod how are |
| 8316s | you |
| 8318s | um excellent you know just moving my |
| 8320s | rupture around space casting Lions |
| 8322s | tournament glad to be here with such |
| 8324s | great co-hosts |
| 8326s | excellent I mean I thought these uh |
| 8328s | these ruptures were a lot bigger than |
| 8329s | they are but seeing you next to them |
| 8331s | really gives an idea of the scale of the |
| 8333s | ships in the in new Eden and it's |
| 8335s | certainly not what I expected uh |
| 8337s | speaking of scale Bart you're not |
| 8339s | looking as white as you were yesterday |
| 8340s | you're looking relatively normal how are |
| 8341s | you |
| 8342s | I I think I'm relatively normal I don't |
| 8345s | know it's it's hard to tell I uh we |
| 8347s | figured out the compromise on the |
| 8349s | production versus my camera side so |
| 8351s | we'll see how long it lasts I might get |
| 8353s | bored and start messing with it again |
| 8357s | yeah I'm sure everyone enjoyed a bit of |
| 8359s | a wide bar tell everyone |
| 8361s | um mods sitting on his ship everyone's |
| 8362s | having fun uh speaking of fun uh we are |
| 8365s | almost ready to go with uh the next |
| 8368s | match here today and it is going to be |
| 8370s | high SEC minors versus kitchen sinkhole |
| 8373s | so I think that from memory whoever wins |
| 8378s | this is to kind of secure themselves a |
| 8380s | position uh in next weekend and her |
| 8383s | religious is going to be out I said |
| 8385s | miners Banning interesting choices here |
| 8387s | the Deacon and the Talia so they're |
| 8389s | banning the tech to logistic frigates I |
| 8392s | don't think we see very many bands of |
| 8393s | those at all uh kitchen thing called |
| 8395s | Banning the zarmsad and the typhoon |
| 8397s | Fleet issue mod why would you ban the |
| 8400s | Deacon in Italia |
| 8402s | and they're just the two most powerful |
| 8405s | um well the only Tech Two armor |
| 8407s | Logistics uh frigates if you don't want |
| 8409s | to fight that and you're much more |
| 8411s | comfortable with |
| 8413s | um running a setup for example like the |
| 8415s | king Slayer Battleship core that we've |
| 8417s | seen that's very good at taking out |
| 8419s | logistics but isn't so great at taking |
| 8421s | out logi frigates you might want to do |
| 8423s | that or if you just don't have a good |
| 8425s | way to get |
| 8426s | ships on top of olaji friggs and you say |
| 8429s | hey I'm good with brawling against you |
| 8431s | know a Tech 2 logic |
| 8434s | um and you would prefer to do that |
| 8435s | instead |
| 8437s | awesome and uh I see the teams are |
| 8440s | landing in the arena now |
| 8442s | um so I think it's probably time to go |
| 8443s | to the match and see who's going to win |
| 8445s | between High SEC minors and kitchen |
| 8447s | sinkhole with your commentators ish and |
| 8450s | Alec |
| 8457s | hello and we are on field with high SEC |
| 8460s | minors and whole control to see who can |
| 8463s | uh walk away with a nice entry into the |
| 8468s | final tournament and I am joined by Alec |
| 8470s | now like what is the first team I love |
| 8472s | you today |
| 8474s | well we've got high SEC miners here with |
| 8476s | a triple Battleship comp Nighthawk for |
| 8478s | links they've got a scalpel and Kieran |
| 8480s | for Logistics with some bombers for long |
| 8483s | range DPS support this is an extremely |
| 8485s | high damage comp they are looking to |
| 8488s | rush and pound |
| 8490s | uh that is those are rapid heavy Foods |
| 8493s | so they're definitely going to be |
| 8494s | kicking out a lot of DPS very quickly |
| 8496s | probably going for higher end Targets on |
| 8499s | the enemy team |
| 8503s | yeah indeed and so they're going up |
| 8506s | against a uh a celebrity Rush with a HFI |
| 8509s | figured in there to kind of balance out |
| 8511s | the points it's a dual HFI |
| 8513s | with the slept near and uh the Loki for |
| 8516s | the control and some Cruiser midline |
| 8518s | they do have the carries mullets there |
| 8519s | and with the fly catcher so I have to |
| 8521s | look to see if they can hold back the |
| 8523s | elements they want to hold back and then |
| 8524s | apply those damps well enough to make |
| 8526s | sure that uh that they can they can keep |
| 8529s | control of the match here |
| 8531s | the carius mullus will be huge at |
| 8533s | neutralizing the DPS coming off of those |
| 8535s | bombers but the fact that both teams |
| 8538s | want to be in close with each other |
| 8540s | generally speaking I think this is |
| 8542s | actually going to favor the battleships |
| 8543s | they should apply pretty well to that |
| 8545s | fluffner and the hurricane Fleet issues |
| 8548s | now we see both teams uh yeah we see |
| 8550s | high SEC miners charging forward |
| 8553s | uh meanwhile kitchen sinkhole attempting |
| 8555s | to kite as best they can and they are |
| 8558s | they're trying |
| 8563s | yeah High SEC minors coming in here |
| 8565s | strong with that nighthawken type these |
| 8567s | are artillery so |
| 8570s | yeah the rdks definitely want to hang |
| 8572s | back try to get the damage generally we |
| 8574s | see the fly catcher coming to intercept |
| 8575s | and I expect a Wubble drop here |
| 8577s | hoping to slow down that Nighthawk |
| 8580s | typhoon Rush inwards what is it a |
| 8582s | stabber it looks like he's going to try |
| 8583s | to work around the battleships a little |
| 8585s | bit these are going to try to hold back |
| 8587s | battleships here or maybe he's going to |
| 8588s | try to swing around them sort of pivot |
| 8590s | off of those battleships and maybe catch |
| 8592s | something in that back line |
| 8594s | I think it's a lot of Reliance online |
| 8597s | the kitchen sink Scimitar is a little |
| 8600s | slower than you'd expect he is beginning |
| 8602s | to get overtaken by these battleships if |
| 8604s | he gets caught out that is bad news |
| 8608s | yeah only going 300 there might might be |
| 8612s | might not be over probably maybe might |
| 8614s | just be standard a b fit he's gonna |
| 8616s | definitely need to start moving here as |
| 8618s | uh as they press in those damps are not |
| 8621s | going to have a desired effect to hold |
| 8623s | off damage from him as they get closer |
| 8625s | in because it's just simply not going to |
| 8627s | matter at that point |
| 8630s | yeah |
| 8631s | we are doing a bit of work |
| 8634s | yeah the bombers are hanging back they |
| 8636s | are starting to apply now most of them |
| 8638s | uh The Hound of Stefan still out and he |
| 8641s | is about to get caught by that stab or |
| 8643s | looks like the stabber has looped around |
| 8644s | into the back line and he's going bomber |
| 8646s | hunting right now that stabber will |
| 8649s | absolutely shred through these bombers |
| 8652s | yeah I think that will be that will be a |
| 8654s | good move on his part to take care of |
| 8656s | the bombers and I get that large damage |
| 8658s | off of his battleships uh he's he's |
| 8661s | pretty free to run around back then it's |
| 8663s | not really a whole lot to hold him down |
| 8664s | hold him back uh and the Loki has sort |
| 8668s | of swung around to the same to a similar |
| 8670s | side of the axis so we'll see if they're |
| 8672s | able to just keep pushing away and keep |
| 8675s | that fret line separated from the |
| 8677s | midline |
| 8681s | one of the bombers got the memo the |
| 8683s | other did not they've lost a hurricane |
| 8685s | in the kitchen sinkhole side this is a |
| 8688s | very interesting fight Jack Harvey's |
| 8689s | Nighthawk recovering his Shields now but |
| 8692s | they're beginning to lose lodgy |
| 8697s | oh evaporated |
| 8700s | oh yeah the bleed of the lodgy is |
| 8702s | definitely going to hurt yeah very very |
| 8704s | fast damage going into that is |
| 8706s | definitely going to hurt and without the |
| 8709s | other logi to cross-rep him uh I I think |
| 8712s | we're going to see a fair bit of trouble |
| 8713s | here coming in for the freak Lodge line |
| 8717s | yeah and the kiting attempt has |
| 8719s | completely collapsed now uh kitchen |
| 8721s | sinkhole is converging |
| 8724s | on the high SEC minors team attempting |
| 8726s | to apply as much DPS as possible while |
| 8727s | they feel like they have the advantage |
| 8729s | they are about to lose one of their |
| 8731s | hurricane Fleet issues it's like those |
| 8733s | typhoons and the scorp Navy issue still |
| 8736s | alive uh kitchen sinkles lost their low |
| 8739s | end or most of their low end but their |
| 8741s | high-end super heavy damage battleships |
| 8744s | are still perfectly fine they've barely |
| 8746s | taken any damage |
| 8751s | they're going to be in a very rough |
| 8753s | position |
| 8754s | definitely they're losing that losing |
| 8756s | that tanky front line like that the |
| 8759s | hurricane Fleet is hanging on for dear |
| 8760s | life here running and eating through |
| 8762s | those x-lab charges but that's not going |
| 8764s | to last he's not bleeding the structure |
| 8765s | and there he goes it's a pop and the |
| 8767s | Nighthawk at about the same time and uh |
| 8770s | that that sort of spells some certain |
| 8771s | death here |
| 8774s | interestingly uh the typhoons the scorp |
| 8778s | Navy they'll still have all of their |
| 8779s | damage but they're not going to have a |
| 8781s | ton of tackle so if kitchen sinkle |
| 8783s | resumes kiting they might be able to |
| 8785s | just ride this one out a little bit |
| 8791s | yeah they're going to take some things |
| 8793s | off field to be able to get to a point |
| 8794s | where they feel comfortable playing for |
| 8795s | points |
| 8798s | we do see some damage going into the |
| 8799s | typhoon here and he sort of caught into |
| 8801s | the middle of things he's definitely not |
| 8802s | going anywhere |
| 8804s | he's gonna be able to crank out a fair |
| 8805s | bit of damage as he uh as he soaks up |
| 8807s | damage at the same |
| 8810s | when you see the Loki working over top |
| 8812s | of the typhoon now looking to drop uh |
| 8815s | into that Fury range and get those |
| 8816s | missiles out to him |
| 8819s | and now we've seen uh ECM drones popped |
| 8822s | by the non-primary Target typhoon that's |
| 8825s | gone on the sleffner just trying to buy |
| 8827s | extra time for their battleships but it |
| 8829s | is RNG based and it will only break |
| 8832s | locks briefly this typhoon is not going |
| 8834s | to live that long |
| 8837s | yeah it's unfortunately not gonna be |
| 8839s | able to stand up to that and down it |
| 8840s | goes |
| 8844s | a high SEC minor is going for a very uh |
| 8846s | high risk High reward strategy here |
| 8848s | leaning into their damage very heavily |
| 8851s | but unfortunately not able to actually |
| 8853s | crack any of the high value high-end |
| 8856s | Targets on kitchen sinkhole |
| 8858s | um so they're |
| 8860s | they're basically their their team's |
| 8862s | Advantage their key to victory was |
| 8864s | denied here |
| 8865s | they needed to get the sleffeners or the |
| 8868s | uh hurricane Fleet issues off much much |
| 8870s | sooner with their strategy and it just |
| 8873s | didn't come together for them |
| 8875s | yeah unfortunately not I think they're |
| 8876s | also of course hampered a bit by when |
| 8878s | they could get that locked in and I |
| 8880s | think they were hoping for a little bit |
| 8881s | more mileage out of the uh out of the |
| 8883s | bombers there it wasn't to be yeah and |
| 8887s | the the carries smallest combo kitchen |
| 8889s | sink I'll definitely earn their pay |
| 8891s | today throwing out the dams that delayed |
| 8894s | that essentially an entire half of the |
| 8897s | high SEC minor team from actually |
| 8898s | getting involved in the fighting |
| 8901s | foreign |
| 8903s | slept near hanging on quite well here he |
| 8906s | baited out that axolab a bit to uh and |
| 8909s | now he's able to pump those charges and |
| 8910s | he's actually probably just gonna live |
| 8912s | all the way through |
| 8914s | at this point as uh we see The Last Ship |
| 8916s | start to go down |
| 8918s | well and now we are just counting the |
| 8921s | moments the last gas of life |
| 8923s | from the scorp Navy issue now if the |
| 8926s | sleffner runs out of ASB charges there |
| 8928s | is a chance that it could die |
| 8931s | something away |
| 8935s | scroll is uh |
| 8938s | no longer held there it looks like so it |
| 8940s | looks like he could start to wheel out |
| 8942s | but uh he doesn't seem too afraid he's |
| 8944s | gonna just hold on there |
| 8945s | he stopped pumping uh let's get around |
| 8947s | one more cycle the ASB there and we'll |
| 8950s | see I believe he thinks he can hold on |
| 8951s | as they take this Sni down and get a |
| 8955s | clean Victory out of it |
| 8956s | snys of course fairly tanky ships it |
| 8959s | takes definitely some work to get them |
| 8961s | down they wisely saved it for last based |
| 8964s | on the success of burning everything |
| 8965s | else through and now it's just a |
| 8967s | formality to take that down not a fast |
| 8969s | chip so it wasn't hard to save for the |
| 8971s | end and get the catch on to and then |
| 8973s | just collapse onto it as they are |
| 8977s | foreign |
| 8984s | I thought it was interesting that they |
| 8986s | that band got thrown out uh the |
| 8989s | decantalia band but we saw the freaking |
| 8991s | logic here not able to stand up to what |
| 8994s | uh Cinco was putting out with a scimitar |
| 8996s | but a lot of that had to do with what |
| 8998s | Cinco was able to do and pivot around |
| 8999s | this battleships I mentioned before with |
| 9002s | that stabber they're able to take that |
| 9003s | big DPS and the bombers off the field |
| 9005s | and then to start working from both |
| 9007s | sides inwards got two minutes left on |
| 9010s | the clock Dennis and I is finally into |
| 9011s | its structure after getting through the |
| 9013s | absurd amount of resists into the uh to |
| 9016s | the shield and Hall and we'll see it go |
| 9018s | splashier in a moment |
| 9021s | a well-fought match very uh |
| 9025s | very competitive very bloody it actually |
| 9027s | lasted a lot longer than you might |
| 9028s | expect but at the end of the day kitchen |
| 9030s | sinkhole takes the victory as we throw |
| 9032s | it back to the desk |
| 9036s | now for the triglovian weather report |
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| 9048s | that's the weather forever |
| 9059s | for just 10 million is a month you can |
| 9063s | save the life of a high SEC minor |
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| 9090s | thank you |
| 9097s | foreign |
| 9100s | to uh the studio with that match between |
| 9103s | High SEC Miners and kitchen sinkhole uh |
| 9106s | kitchen sinkhole taking the W there |
| 9110s | um in that match |
| 9113s | so I've got a lot of people talking in |
| 9114s | my ear uh Mr Mr BR J and and ish could |
| 9119s | you guys maybe not |
| 9122s | guys can you be quiet |
| 9125s | um thank you very much uh so high side |
| 9128s | miners they're struggling to pull out a |
| 9130s | w even though it looked like it was |
| 9133s | theirs to take there was a scimitar just |
| 9136s | hanging around in what was probably |
| 9138s | considered the wrong place to be and yet |
| 9141s | High site miners just chose time and |
| 9143s | time again to ignore that Scimitar at |
| 9146s | blackback pirate what went wrong there |
| 9149s | you know I think uh I think High SEC |
| 9151s | miners actually had the advantage comp |
| 9153s | wise in that entire setup |
| 9156s | um you just got like completely out |
| 9157s | piloted uh kitchen sink realized really |
| 9161s | quickly that their initial plan of being |
| 9163s | a Minotaur Rush would not work versus |
| 9165s | those battleships |
| 9166s | so they just flew away and then used |
| 9168s | their damps and high SEC minors didn't |
| 9171s | like I don't think they were expecting |
| 9172s | it they weren't ready to have someone |
| 9174s | run away from them and uh they just |
| 9176s | tunnel vision I mean like you said |
| 9177s | there's a there's a scimitar sitting |
| 9179s | within like 10 to 30 kilometers of all |
| 9182s | of those battleships for like several |
| 9184s | minutes of the fight |
| 9186s | and at any point they could have just |
| 9188s | snapped to it and blown it up and they |
| 9190s | just didn't and then I wonder if they're |
| 9191s | saying they're like well why isn't |
| 9192s | anything dying oh you didn't kill the |
| 9194s | lodgy it was sitting on top of you so |
| 9196s | it's unfortunate yeah you have to wonder |
| 9198s | if maybe the match started and they |
| 9200s | thought oh we're not going to break this |
| 9202s | Scimitar so they just ignored it and |
| 9204s | they just didn't notice that that |
| 9205s | Scimitar was just positioned in you know |
| 9207s | the complete wrong place uh moderator we |
| 9210s | also saw kitchen tinkle bringing a |
| 9212s | couple of bombers but look like maybe no |
| 9214s | real way to screen and protect those |
| 9215s | bombers so they didn't last very long |
| 9218s | um is there really anything else that |
| 9220s | kitchen sinkhole could have done in this |
| 9221s | instance turn up kitchen cycle Isaac |
| 9223s | miners could have done in this instance |
| 9224s | apart from going for the Scimitar to |
| 9226s | make it better for themselves |
| 9229s | yeah I mean they could have tried to |
| 9233s | deal with the fact that there was a fly |
| 9236s | catcher and a jackdaw that were just |
| 9239s | completely head shotting their not only |
| 9242s | their bombers but the fact that their |
| 9243s | frigate launching got basically |
| 9245s | assassinated by those light missiles um |
| 9247s | they got pressured very heavily uh by |
| 9250s | those missiles and they're going to |
| 9251s | apply perfectly to frigate so uh |
| 9255s | possibly a bit of a Target calling issue |
| 9257s | also |
| 9258s | um |
| 9258s | I understand that you want to take the |
| 9261s | typhoons because of the discount and the |
| 9264s | fact that it's a tiebreaker opportunity |
| 9267s | um when you're already down one match |
| 9268s | but |
| 9270s | um typhoons if you're bringing a prop |
| 9273s | mod means you would at best have a four |
| 9275s | slot tank which uh is not the kind of |
| 9279s | the way to go if you want your |
| 9280s | battleships that you're dumping 20 |
| 9282s | points in each two to survive more than |
| 9285s | someone looking at them funny |
| 9289s | yeah and I think with that |
| 9291s | um the the brackets haven't been updated |
| 9292s | yet but I'm pretty sure kitchen sinkhole |
| 9294s | now taking that top position in uh |
| 9297s | brutor a with Alexis Matari taking that |
| 9300s | runner-up position and that results in |
| 9302s | high SEC minors being ganked out of the |
| 9305s | tournament uh they didn't buy the |
| 9307s | correct permit uh so they are no longer |
| 9310s | competing with us |
| 9312s | um let's look at some other things so |
| 9314s | Bart we spoke a little bit about Target |
| 9315s | choice in the sense that they didn't |
| 9316s | choose to go for the Scimitar but just |
| 9318s | in general how important is Target |
| 9321s | calling and the Order of which you |
| 9323s | choose to shoot your Targets in an |
| 9325s | alliance tournament match going to be |
| 9327s | uh it's it's pretty much everything |
| 9330s | um there's very |
| 9332s | very few situations where you can really |
| 9336s | survive uh like tunnel visioning on the |
| 9338s | wrong target and we've seen it uh |
| 9340s | honestly like this entire weekend we've |
| 9341s | seen a lot of teams going after |
| 9344s | something that like and I'm a backup a |
| 9347s | little bit so you might not necessarily |
| 9348s | know it's the wrong target Until you |
| 9350s | realize you can't kill it right but as |
| 9352s | soon as you realize you're not killing |
| 9353s | it you need to switch and we're see |
| 9355s | we've seen a lot of teams that'll like |
| 9357s | Tunnel Vision on one Target and then |
| 9359s | watch that Target like survive for three |
| 9361s | minutes straight while their entire team |
| 9363s | gets destroyed |
| 9365s | um which you know I'm thinking like back |
| 9367s | yesterday there was that drone setup |
| 9369s | where uh hurricane Fleet issue tied to |
| 9371s | the drones for like five minutes |
| 9372s | straight and like at any point they |
| 9374s | could have swapped the drones to |
| 9375s | something else and maybe one uh or |
| 9377s | you'll see these ones where it's like |
| 9378s | okay we brought three rapid heavy |
| 9380s | missile launcher ships and then you pick |
| 9382s | the tankiest Target on the field versus |
| 9385s | maybe shooting like |
| 9386s | Cruiser like Logistics Cruiser like say |
| 9389s | take the kingslayer set up and use it to |
| 9391s | kill a logistics Cruiser which is what |
| 9392s | it's made for |
| 9394s | Pro tip Yeah you mentioned kingslayer |
| 9397s | um mod perhaps maybe you can run us |
| 9399s | through kingslayer what that means and |
| 9401s | why we call it that |
| 9404s | sure so King's lawyer was a composition |
| 9407s | that |
| 9408s | um Hydra built many many years ago and |
| 9411s | essentially what it's designed to do is |
| 9413s | to have |
| 9414s | um two usually three battleships that |
| 9417s | have |
| 9418s | um kind of a rapid |
| 9420s | um heavy missile launcher setup and |
| 9422s | basically the idea is that I'm going to |
| 9424s | dump a crap ton of damage in you while |
| 9428s | controlling range |
| 9430s | um while controlling the arena and I'm |
| 9433s | going to dump everything I can into one |
| 9436s | ship that's being Target painted that's |
| 9438s | being webbed and being held down and |
| 9441s | then I'm going to pull back while I'm |
| 9444s | re-clipping and then I'm going to |
| 9446s | re-engage when that clip is back up and |
| 9449s | then you basically rinse and repeat |
| 9450s | until you've won the match is the |
| 9452s | underlying concept there |
| 9456s | awesome awesome uh thank you for the |
| 9458s | insight there uh let's look forward to |
| 9460s | our next match which I'm quite excited |
| 9461s | for because this this should be a a |
| 9463s | spicy one it's going to be turbo feed Or |
| 9466s | Glory versus No Vacancy so two Wormhole |
| 9468s | groups one uh with CSM we're mostly said |
| 9471s | Martin resurrect is one without actually |
| 9473s | uh there can only be one |
| 9476s | um and this is for bruter B so this is |
| 9478s | quite an important match for both of |
| 9479s | these teams and then a lot a lot to win |
| 9482s | a lot to lose here let's take a look at |
| 9484s | the bands and see what these teams have |
| 9486s | chose to prevent your opponents from |
| 9489s | bringing so turbo feed Banning out the |
| 9492s | bar gas the balgorn and then |
| 9494s | interestingly enough the guardian |
| 9497s | um I don't think we've seen a band of |
| 9498s | those yet not only people choose if they |
| 9499s | want to Banner Tech to arm a logistics |
| 9500s | Cruiser to maybe ban his arms ad or the |
| 9503s | uh oniros Guardians usually maybe third |
| 9505s | tier there |
| 9506s | um no vacancies Banning slept near |
| 9508s | Bargas and typhoon Fleet typhoon Fleet |
| 9510s | makes sense it's been quite powerful |
| 9512s | it's low pointed by comparison moderator |
| 9514s | this Guardian band like what are your |
| 9516s | thoughts there |
| 9519s | so the guardian is more powerful in kind |
| 9522s | of these |
| 9524s | um slower setups where you don't |
| 9527s | necessarily need the mobility but like |
| 9528s | you've been saying um we usually see |
| 9530s | that |
| 9532s | um you know neros tends to be banned out |
| 9534s | more or the zarmsad because his arms |
| 9536s | that has started to replace a little bit |
| 9539s | of the role that the guardian used to |
| 9541s | have because of the massive amount of |
| 9543s | repping that you can get and the oniros |
| 9545s | is kind of the faster |
| 9548s | um laundry where you accept that it |
| 9550s | doesn't rep as much but it's got you |
| 9553s | know more mid slots where it can have a |
| 9555s | dual prop running where the guardian |
| 9556s | can't really |
| 9557s | and it's just not really a band we |
| 9561s | really see so much in kind of |
| 9563s | um at 18 maybe if this was at14 we would |
| 9567s | see it and say it was a good band but |
| 9568s | not So Much Anymore |
| 9571s | all right what's the what's the main |
| 9573s | difference when you when you're pecking |
| 9574s | between say like a guardian and a aniris |
| 9577s | like by my recollection the guardian can |
| 9579s | actually rep more why is it not more |
| 9581s | popular |
| 9583s | uh it's a lot less survivable it's um so |
| 9586s | it's not it's not that much slower but |
| 9589s | you can't really it's it's like mod set |
| 9590s | you can't dual prop them so a really |
| 9592s | common Guardian fit is you'll have both |
| 9594s | a micro warp drive and an afterburner on |
| 9596s | it so that you can mitigate missile |
| 9599s | damage with the afterburner or at least |
| 9601s | try and kite a little bit uh away maybe |
| 9604s | long enough for your team to get it uh |
| 9606s | honestly I don't understand why you |
| 9608s | would do a guardian band ever unless you |
| 9611s | were Banning both the guardian and the |
| 9613s | owneros so I think it's kind of a it's a |
| 9615s | little bit of a strange band the only |
| 9617s | thing I could think of |
| 9618s | is that they don't want people doing |
| 9621s | remote cap transfers because |
| 9622s | traditionally you probably will not fit |
| 9624s | remote cap transfers on a neuros since |
| 9626s | they don't get the long range bonus |
| 9628s | they've only got a couple of high slots |
| 9630s | um |
| 9631s | but realistically like |
| 9634s | maybe they have some like super you know |
| 9636s | Giga brain plan here but the owneros is |
| 9640s | almost always better in every single |
| 9642s | respect uh the only other thing I can |
| 9644s | think of is maybe they're trying to |
| 9646s | counter ECM so they're like hey |
| 9648s | well if we ban the guardian it leaves in |
| 9650s | a neuros open and then we can put our |
| 9652s | green jam on your oniro send our |
| 9654s | yellowjam on your not oneros |
| 9656s | but that's that's getting into that kind |
| 9658s | of like those weeds where you might be |
| 9659s | setting yourself up for failure |
| 9662s | yeah I meant to hang yourself well it's |
| 9664s | pretty much time to go to a pre-arranged |
| 9667s | system with a uh agreed upon honorable |
| 9670s | between two Wormhole groups uh with |
| 9673s | certain specified ship limits the |
| 9675s | situation both of these teams will be |
| 9677s | very familiar with as they are both |
| 9679s | Wormhole Corps so let's hand over to the |
| 9681s | arena with turbo feeder Glory versus no |
| 9683s | vacancies and your casters firvana and |
| 9686s | the Basilisk |
| 9692s | welcome everybody to the arena having |
| 9694s | successfully herded my team of cats |
| 9696s | through the group stage earlier I'm now |
| 9697s | joined by fear Viner for this match |
| 9699s | between turbo feed or glory and no |
| 9701s | vacancies in Turbo fetal Glory it looks |
| 9702s | to me are going to stay true to their |
| 9703s | name as they've brought this heavy armor |
| 9705s | control comp with this armor Loki which |
| 9707s | is something we don't see very often |
| 9708s | these armor logic frigates the Deacon |
| 9710s | and Thalia and they are going to try and |
| 9711s | rush in get webs on with this Loki and |
| 9713s | just pump them down with these two on |
| 9714s | battleships |
| 9716s | we're all known vacancies on the blue |
| 9718s | side they've triple Varga we'll see if |
| 9720s | this is going to be a tinker setup or |
| 9722s | not but with those dual lodgy frags it |
| 9724s | might be and these are 800 millimeter |
| 9727s | vargers so they're going to project out |
| 9729s | a little bit more than this TFR this |
| 9730s | Hyperion but at the same time damage |
| 9733s | wise they also do more damage uh on this |
| 9736s | high end we'll see if they're gonna be |
| 9737s | able to make this happen as these |
| 9739s | Tempest lead issues start burning in |
| 9741s | towards the side of no vacancies |
| 9743s | yeah I feel like this is going to be a |
| 9745s | bit of a bloodbath here these obviously |
| 9746s | three battleships on each side both just |
| 9748s | gonna charge into each other I feel like |
| 9750s | um the turbo fetal Glory team should be |
| 9752s | able to have reasonable Target access of |
| 9754s | course with the ranged webs from the |
| 9755s | armaloki um but the rock Channel of art |
| 9757s | cell starts taking chunks to start off |
| 9759s | with I'm not sure how this um somewhat |
| 9762s | unconventional three Varga comps is |
| 9764s | gonna work and the Vaga is MJ ding on |
| 9765s | this Beacon here pinky line in the Varga |
| 9767s | appears to have activated the beacon |
| 9770s | yeah I mean it's being primaried right |
| 9772s | now so trying to get away at the |
| 9773s | beginning the rupture was taking down an |
| 9775s | armor but he hasn't gone down quite yet |
| 9778s | yeah so this isn't a tinker setup like |
| 9780s | we've seen with those Golems earlier |
| 9781s | this is actually just every man for |
| 9783s | himself these battleships have such high |
| 9785s | projection on them because of their |
| 9787s | bonuses they figure that they're going |
| 9789s | to be able to get these 800s to do work |
| 9791s | from any area of the map meanwhile |
| 9792s | aren't saying the rupture is still being |
| 9794s | primaried right now about to hit |
| 9795s | structure that might be first blood for |
| 9797s | the match but no one has fallen yet from |
| 9799s | no vacancies |
| 9801s | but this is a crazy strategy from no |
| 9803s | vacancies they just parked up all these |
| 9804s | three Vargas |
| 9805s | um you know on opposing micro jump drive |
| 9807s | beacons and obviously now they're not on |
| 9808s | top of each other there's no way you can |
| 9810s | avoid at least two of them tracking you |
| 9812s | know if you're orbiting one then the |
| 9813s | plan is I suppose for the other two to |
| 9815s | be able to track you I mean they're all |
| 9816s | going to have range limitations but as |
| 9817s | you say Vargo projection is pretty |
| 9818s | decent but still |
| 9819s | you know I was wrong in my initial |
| 9821s | prediction this is a bloodbath this |
| 9822s | doesn't seem to be a bloodbath so far |
| 9823s | it's sort of slow paced |
| 9826s | yeah it is the sky breaker taking a bit |
| 9828s | of damage right now only got dual T1 |
| 9830s | larger freaks keeping him alive while |
| 9832s | this rupture was able to heal back up |
| 9833s | the pull |
| 9835s | but a deletion of that mollus that was a |
| 9837s | single volley and the mollus is gone |
| 9839s | damps off the field no and the Hyperion |
| 9842s | gets deleted was that a micro jump drive |
| 9844s | battery yes it was |
| 9846s | that's insane that's incredible I mean |
| 9848s | the pressure wasn't really on turbo |
| 9850s | field gory to make to do much here I |
| 9852s | mean this this strategy from no |
| 9853s | vacancies doesn't seem to be really |
| 9854s | doing much there's another that is the |
| 9856s | Hyperion |
| 9857s | um they they were parked up but I feel |
| 9858s | like the application as you say is it's |
| 9860s | maybe not enough these beacons uh so far |
| 9863s | away from each other that maybe they |
| 9865s | couldn't apply the Varga mjds away to |
| 9866s | get away from these drones but this wolf |
| 9867s | now goes down as well this is turning |
| 9869s | into chaos to be honest I feel like the |
| 9871s | Vargas yeah it doesn't too much pressure |
| 9872s | out but |
| 9873s | yeah they're just volleying these slow |
| 9876s | ends |
| 9877s | yeah following these lines and turbo |
| 9879s | feet are growing I'm not sure what they |
| 9880s | were trying to do with this mjd play on |
| 9882s | the Hyperion uh really costly mistake |
| 9885s | because the only damage left is the |
| 9886s | Tempest Fleet issue uh the Loki and the |
| 9889s | astardite and that's not nearly enough |
| 9891s | the pawn effects gets volleyed as well |
| 9892s | these Vargas lining up the volleys |
| 9895s | getting the low end out I think they |
| 9897s | might go for the steek and Thalia next |
| 9898s | and then start working away at this high |
| 9900s | end |
| 9901s | yeah I've commentated a fair few matches |
| 9903s | I don't think I've I can remember seeing |
| 9905s | something like this before executed to |
| 9907s | such Effectiveness I mean turbo fetal |
| 9909s | Glory obviously land on the grid they |
| 9911s | say okay we got these three battleships |
| 9912s | we've got these Loki we're just gonna |
| 9913s | try and RAM in and pump all our DPS into |
| 9915s | them and no vacancies immediately from |
| 9917s | from second zero just Starburst get all |
| 9919s | their three Vargas away to different |
| 9920s | micro jump beacons and just start |
| 9921s | volleying stuff across the field |
| 9924s | yeah absolutely crazy from no vacancies |
| 9927s | remember if they win this they're gonna |
| 9928s | be first seed and then ushra Khan the |
| 9930s | momentary role play Corp becomes second |
| 9932s | seed in the group this rupture now into |
| 9934s | very low armor this Deacon and Thalia |
| 9936s | don't look too close to the rupture so |
| 9938s | they should be able to get through him |
| 9939s | as this Hawk and Bantam starting to get |
| 9941s | some pressure on top of them they might |
| 9944s | go down but still triple vargar is a lot |
| 9946s | of points on the high end killing the |
| 9947s | low end at this point might not be |
| 9948s | enough |
| 9950s | yeah obviously these vulgars are gonna |
| 9951s | have so much |
| 9952s | power in their own right there's so many |
| 9954s | points pumped into them |
| 9955s | um and they're still you know there's |
| 9957s | the Tempest Fleet and their starter I'm |
| 9958s | not gonna be able to take them down |
| 9959s | their own they are slowly killing off |
| 9960s | this support wing and on their side but |
| 9962s | I mean it the logic obviously doesn't |
| 9964s | matter the Decon Valley they've |
| 9965s | demonstrated that they're able to just |
| 9966s | pop things |
| 9968s | yeah and as we saw the low end the |
| 9970s | rupture goes down as well as the uh Hawk |
| 9974s | and the Bantam from no vacancies so |
| 9977s | decontalia last for members of this low |
| 9979s | end alive and they have been able to |
| 9981s | keep things alive under the Varga but |
| 9982s | not through volleys the sky breaker |
| 9985s | going down very low but they go all the |
| 9986s | way through half armor on the first |
| 9988s | volley towards this Loki skybreaker goes |
| 9990s | down this Loki he's got to get wrapped |
| 9992s | up a bit more if these Vargas uh if he |
| 9995s | has any chance against these vargers |
| 9998s | yeah the Deacon and Thalia are burning |
| 9999s | towards him now trying to pump reps out |
| 10000s | on him but I don't know how long it's |
| 10001s | going to be until this next volley comes |
| 10003s | out on this Loki he is coming up to 75 |
| 10005s | armor now they are sold on top of 68 he |
| 10006s | gets another chunk down to 35 so you |
| 10009s | know these these logic frigates gonna |
| 10010s | have to be working overtime to to heal |
| 10012s | him back up but I mean of course in the |
| 10013s | meantime the Vlogs could switch to |
| 10014s | something else and just totally put them |
| 10016s | into disarray the turbo food comp isn't |
| 10017s | particularly balled up right now so |
| 10019s | these logic frigates with the limited |
| 10020s | range are going to be struggling to keep |
| 10021s | everyone alive if they decide to switch |
| 10023s | Artie vargers that's not something I |
| 10026s | have ever seen before in my life we've |
| 10030s | seen the cruise missiles on these Golems |
| 10032s | because they have more DPS and less |
| 10034s | volley and this Loki dipping into very |
| 10037s | low armor now off that last volley from |
| 10039s | these Vargas this is incredible uh |
| 10042s | prediction from no vacancies realizing |
| 10044s | that hey if they we keep them split up |
| 10048s | we're going to be able to volley through |
| 10049s | basically everyone this Loki I think two |
| 10051s | more volleys is probably going to be |
| 10052s | enough to kill him the seeking mentholia |
| 10054s | are not making enough progress uh after |
| 10056s | every volley |
| 10058s | I don't know I mean they are holding up |
| 10060s | he's got back to 85 armor here before |
| 10061s | this next volley comes in but I mean |
| 10063s | even if they do if even if they are able |
| 10065s | to keep him up he's still they haven't |
| 10067s | got enough time there's not enough time |
| 10068s | for them to be able to kill these Vargas |
| 10070s | and they need to obviously stay in a |
| 10071s | pack to make sure that these lodgy |
| 10072s | frigates can rep up whoever gets |
| 10073s | primaried |
| 10074s | um they maybe have cycled off the Loki |
| 10076s | or they can't track him maybe but I mean |
| 10078s | this this sort of |
| 10080s | cage of death that no vacancies are |
| 10082s | built here with these artillery Vargas |
| 10083s | and of course as soon as they see |
| 10085s | um the turbo feed comp approaching them |
| 10087s | they can just use the mjd and go to |
| 10088s | another corner |
| 10090s | yep njd from Infinity right as you said |
| 10093s | that as well going towards the center of |
| 10094s | the Arena trying to get a little bit |
| 10096s | better maybe onto this uh deconthalia |
| 10099s | maybe they just don't think that they're |
| 10101s | gonna be able to track with these |
| 10102s | artillery canines I can't believe I |
| 10103s | messed right the model it looked like an |
| 10105s | AC to me but I guess uh I'm just uh |
| 10108s | blind even with my reference another mjd |
| 10110s | this one the Tempest Fleet issue from |
| 10112s | Turbo theater Glory gets on top of Razer |
| 10114s | but he's fooling the mjd right now as |
| 10116s | well uh I do not know if he's scrammed |
| 10119s | by this Tempest lead issue as I don't |
| 10120s | have fancy UI but he is at the very |
| 10122s | least webbed and it looks like yeah the |
| 10124s | MGD was broken so uh rezura is in |
| 10128s | trouble right now now the MGD wasn't |
| 10130s | broken he'd boost okay we're good |
| 10133s | I mean I'm just I just want to address |
| 10136s | the sheer balls of no vacancies to bring |
| 10139s | this out because obviously if you you |
| 10141s | walk this to the field and you see those |
| 10142s | The Tempest Fleet that you started the |
| 10144s | Loki bearing down on you and they're |
| 10145s | charging into you you know it's got to |
| 10147s | be a matter of seconds as to whether or |
| 10148s | not you can get these mjds off on the |
| 10150s | Vargas get away you know spread out |
| 10151s | enough or if these tempests Tempest |
| 10153s | Fleet and the starter are just going to |
| 10155s | punch through you |
| 10156s | um and you know clearly it's worked |
| 10157s | Perfection but it must have been a very |
| 10158s | fine margin for them to do so and |
| 10160s | obviously if they hadn't and these |
| 10161s | Vargas had got caught down next to each |
| 10163s | other it could be a very very different |
| 10164s | match |
| 10165s | hyena being in a little bit of trouble |
| 10167s | here though no logic available to him |
| 10169s | he's in structure should be going down |
| 10171s | but once again there are so many points |
| 10173s | in these Vargas you have to kill all |
| 10175s | three of them if you want to win with |
| 10177s | all of your low ends gone uh from Turbo |
| 10179s | feed or glory and I don't think they're |
| 10181s | going to be able to do that the lift to |
| 10183s | win strategy now seems to be the play |
| 10185s | for no vacancies as I don't really have |
| 10187s | the ability to take anything else off |
| 10188s | the field |
| 10190s | yeah there's you know less than two and |
| 10191s | a half minutes left in the match so this |
| 10193s | is going to be wrapped up for no |
| 10194s | vacancies whatever's left it just |
| 10195s | doesn't have enough damage to break |
| 10196s | through even one of these vloggers |
| 10198s | um you know as you say 26 points each |
| 10199s | these are a hefty |
| 10201s | um contribution to the points here and |
| 10203s | you know I think killing they need to |
| 10204s | kill at least two at this point and |
| 10205s | obviously that's not gonna happen |
| 10208s | um so yeah I mean really well played by |
| 10209s | no vacancies it's it's so impressive to |
| 10212s | see such a |
| 10214s | audacious comp it's it's really yeah I'm |
| 10217s | impressed very impressed I I am |
| 10220s | impressed but I also have to point out |
| 10222s | that uh turbo theater Glory did |
| 10224s | themselves no favors by mjd boundarying |
| 10227s | a Hyperion at the start of the match I |
| 10230s | think if they had that Hyperion it would |
| 10231s | have been tough to break a Varga but if |
| 10233s | they were able to get a scram on one of |
| 10234s | these Vargas they might have been able |
| 10237s | to actually kill him between the |
| 10239s | Hyperion and the Tempest Fleet issue but |
| 10241s | now that's just not the case there's |
| 10243s | Loki going down he's gonna be right back |
| 10244s | up by this Deacon Thalia uh this hyena |
| 10247s | is actually Shield regened up a pretty |
| 10249s | high now as he hasn't fallen quite yet |
| 10252s | uh defrost seems to be the next one to |
| 10254s | go down some damages going on in the |
| 10256s | assade as well but it doesn't look like |
| 10258s | they're going to be any more uh kills in |
| 10260s | this as we wind down into the last |
| 10262s | minute |
| 10263s | yeah so it looks like this is going to |
| 10265s | head towards a stalemate or not still |
| 10266s | you know win in favor of no vacancies |
| 10268s | but it's going to sort of taper off |
| 10269s | rather than end with a bang but yeah as |
| 10271s | you say CP CCP zealous calling out in |
| 10272s | local chat 127 kilometers on the uh on |
| 10276s | the Hyperion boundary and of course the |
| 10277s | edge of the Arena 125 so just perhaps a |
| 10279s | slight miscalculation just a slight |
| 10281s | different angle on that mjd and he would |
| 10284s | have potentially landed exactly where he |
| 10285s | wanted to on maybe on top of one of |
| 10286s | those Vargas and and scrammed it and |
| 10288s | this match again could have gone |
| 10288s | completely different so you know so many |
| 10290s | pivotal moments in this match where it |
| 10292s | could have just been on a total knife |
| 10293s | edge and the outcome could have been |
| 10294s | completely different but this Loki now |
| 10296s | of koniko may actually find himself |
| 10297s | going down before the end but this is |
| 10299s | going to be the end of Turbo feed or |
| 10300s | Glory's hopes and aspirations of getting |
| 10302s | into alliance tournament 18. |
| 10304s | yeah another mjd from Razer just to stay |
| 10308s | away from this blob I mean there's not a |
| 10311s | whole lot that this Tempest lead issue |
| 10312s | this is star day uh and this Loki can do |
| 10314s | the Loki's being wrapped up by these uh |
| 10317s | lodgy frigates at the moment but another |
| 10318s | good uh volley with a couple wrecking |
| 10320s | shots might be enough but they aren't |
| 10322s | syncing up the volleys right now |
| 10324s | yeah it's it's kind of funny really how |
| 10326s | uh Taylor fito Glory brought a Loki for |
| 10328s | range control thinking they could get on |
| 10330s | top oh there you go but of course the |
| 10333s | only thing that can't be range |
| 10334s | controlled by a Loki is mjds and that's |
| 10336s | exactly what no vacancies have uh you |
| 10337s | know specked into with these three |
| 10338s | Vargas so congratulations to no |
| 10340s | vacancies they're going to proceed I |
| 10341s | believe as you said top of their group |
| 10343s | turbo fetal Glory will once again |
| 10345s | encounter turbo feed and with that we're |
| 10346s | going to send it back to the desk |
| 10354s | [Music] |
| 10360s | [Music] |
| 10380s | [Applause] |
| 10381s | forever |
| 10383s | [Music] |
| 10384s | [Applause] |
| 10394s | [Music] |
| 10410s | [Music] |
| 10416s | thank you |
| 10419s | foreign |
| 10421s | [Music] |
| 10430s | there you have it the order of the |
| 10431s | business today is indeed turbo feeding |
| 10434s | and no glory for top of future Glory no |
| 10437s | vacancies taking a win is definitely a |
| 10440s | win |
| 10442s | um with a triple Varga triangle of death |
| 10445s | strategy uh not something we've we've |
| 10447s | seen much of in the alliance tournament |
| 10449s | before uh it reminded me immediately of |
| 10452s | I think it must have been Alliance |
| 10453s | tournament 13 when |
| 10455s | um I think the micro jump drive he first |
| 10458s | came out and mirada's got the the 70 |
| 10460s | reduction in cooldown for it and I tried |
| 10463s | to convince at my fellow 3D Crafters in |
| 10465s | my team back then that the uh micro jump |
| 10469s | driving Varga comp was going to be a |
| 10472s | real thing where we could just micro |
| 10473s | jump drive around the arena away from |
| 10474s | the enemies uh Novak basically deploying |
| 10477s | some weird version of that and you know |
| 10479s | what it worked for them |
| 10481s | um they did have 11 people on their team |
| 10483s | their entirety of their team and ordoski |
| 10486s | and his Hyperion choosing to uh jump |
| 10488s | themselves straight out of the Arena |
| 10490s | moderator uh a small narrator as I see |
| 10494s | you're now called uh how is that match |
| 10495s | for you it's a bit bit odd but um |
| 10498s | anything that the uh uh top of your |
| 10501s | glory team could have done better other |
| 10502s | than staying inside the arena to maybe |
| 10503s | secure a victory there against three RT |
| 10505s | vargers |
| 10507s | yeah I mean they could have had |
| 10509s | literally any one of their ships have a |
| 10513s | scram and be able to hold down an |
| 10515s | artillery Barger unfortunately |
| 10519s | um |
| 10520s | all of their ships that were capable of |
| 10522s | doing so basically got headshot by 1400 |
| 10526s | artillery and then once they were dead |
| 10529s | no vacancies had a lot of fun |
| 10533s | doing I lost count of how many micro |
| 10535s | jump drives but it was more than one and |
| 10538s | none of them died or went out of the |
| 10540s | Arena wolf doing it so uh Big Ups to |
| 10542s | them for not jumping out of the Arena |
| 10546s | yeah the arena is only 125 kilometers |
| 10548s | radius from the center Central Beacon so |
| 10552s | depending on which direction you're |
| 10553s | moving in |
| 10554s | um it can certainly be less than 100 |
| 10555s | kilometers to the boundary from where |
| 10557s | you are at any one time I could jump |
| 10559s | drive obviously it pings you forward 100 |
| 10562s | kilometers and uh that Hyperion land is |
| 10565s | 127 kilometers away from the central |
| 10567s | Beacon so he only misjudged by two |
| 10569s | kilometers but uh Bob only cares about |
| 10572s | one meter so in this case he was |
| 10575s | eviscerated immediately by uh the hand |
| 10578s | of God |
| 10579s | Blackboard pirate triple Vargas is that |
| 10581s | the meta |
| 10583s | no I don't think so I honestly like |
| 10587s | I I don't want to downplay uh no |
| 10590s | vacancies winning but I think that with |
| 10593s | that if that Hyperion had not decided to |
| 10595s | uh try and be a super cool guy and mjd |
| 10598s | after the vargary and said just like |
| 10600s | mwd towards him |
| 10602s | I think that Novak would have lost that |
| 10605s | um I'm I'm assuming that the Hyperion |
| 10607s | had a scram on it but I I'm pretty sure |
| 10610s | that uh |
| 10611s | like we saw that Novak wasn't actually |
| 10614s | really losing anything |
| 10616s | after they lost like two or three ships |
| 10618s | right so I I don't think that they |
| 10619s | actually had enough DPS with their |
| 10620s | vargers to break anything if that high |
| 10622s | period had lived so |
| 10625s | you never know I mean it's super cool |
| 10626s | like |
| 10627s | three burgers was super awesome like |
| 10629s | they played it perfectly they went to |
| 10631s | different beacons but I I don't think |
| 10632s | that that is the uh that is the secret |
| 10634s | trick that will win every single |
| 10636s | tournament from now on |
| 10638s | Unfortunately they can't bring four |
| 10640s | Vargas because they wouldn't have uh |
| 10642s | enough points because that would be well |
| 10643s | over 100 points just for those with that |
| 10646s | match |
| 10647s | um that finalizes the standings for the |
| 10649s | briter tribe uh today so winning britar |
| 10653s | a is Kitchen sinkhole with runner-up |
| 10656s | electus Matari and winning bruter B is |
| 10659s | no vacancies and shrikan as runner-up |
| 10662s | rather annoyingly uh by no vacancies |
| 10665s | taking that W it means that they push us |
| 10668s | into that runner-up slot and the drivers |
| 10672s | of Alexis material versus shrekan next |
| 10675s | week as the winner of uh brutal a plays |
| 10679s | the runner-off of Ritter B and vice |
| 10680s | versa so if no vacancies dropped that |
| 10683s | anushra can had one and we would have |
| 10685s | seen a lesson and I think that would |
| 10687s | have been quite a match to watch but |
| 10690s | unfortunately it is not to be |
| 10692s | now we are going on to the Stark manure |
| 10695s | tribe with uh Spector Fleet versus |
| 10697s | gunswarm Federation so uh mpsi group |
| 10701s | versus one of the biggest groups of |
| 10704s | Blues in the game who can win here we |
| 10706s | will find that uh let's see if we can |
| 10709s | just uh oh we're looking at the starting |
| 10710s | your tribe group right now so scary |
| 10712s | Wormhole people in group a sitting |
| 10714s | comfortable at the top with two wins |
| 10715s | they are very happy so essentially |
| 10717s | respectively in goon from Federation are |
| 10719s | now competing for relegation whoever |
| 10722s | loses this match will almost certainly |
| 10724s | be relegated from the tournament uh |
| 10726s | something that goes from Federation is |
| 10728s | intimately familiar with Group B |
| 10730s | Russell's Clan also sitting uh with two |
| 10732s | wins no visual in the Ancients with zero |
| 10735s | each so when they play later on there's |
| 10737s | also going to be an elimination match uh |
| 10740s | the winner will stay in the loser will |
| 10742s | be kicked out of Alliance tournament 18. |
| 10746s | uh looking at our next match Specter |
| 10748s | Fleet versus gun from Federation let's |
| 10749s | take a quick look at the bands |
| 10750s | themselves see what these teams have |
| 10752s | chose chosen to ban out so respectively |
| 10754s | Banning the Nighthawk and the Gila and |
| 10757s | with the trickle-down band to the curse |
| 10759s | Aguila is not the most banned ship it is |
| 10761s | we've seen it I actually take out some |
| 10763s | of those drone comps |
| 10765s | um goes for a federation Banning The |
| 10766s | Vindicator the Nighthawk and the low key |
| 10768s | so they really don't want to see that |
| 10770s | Nighthawk Loki Rush uh moderator why |
| 10774s | else jumped out at you from these bands |
| 10775s | here |
| 10778s | yeah I mean again uh goon swarm not |
| 10781s | wanting to deal with any sort of webs |
| 10783s | yeah I mean that's why you would ban Out |
| 10785s | The Vindicator not wanting to deal with |
| 10786s | 90 webs and then not wanting to deal |
| 10788s | with |
| 10789s | um the 60 but bonus to range webs that |
| 10792s | the Loki can bring |
| 10794s | um I'm liking the Specter band a little |
| 10796s | bit more with the the kind of the |
| 10798s | healing not wanting to deal with uh |
| 10800s | drones and not wanting to deal with the |
| 10802s | Newton tracking disruption you can get |
| 10804s | out of a curse hitting you |
| 10808s | yeah I mean I'm I'm struggling to decide |
| 10810s | who I want to win this most uh I always |
| 10812s | like to see the goons do well because |
| 10815s | you know they do so well in so many |
| 10818s | other aspects of Eve online but uh the |
| 10820s | tournaments they just really struggle |
| 10821s | with uh and they feel like somehow the |
| 10824s | Plucky underdogs |
| 10825s | um in in this scenario uh but then again |
| 10828s | respectively as well a bunch of cool |
| 10830s | dudes npsi is always something that I |
| 10832s | like to support I think it's awesome uh |
| 10834s | be able to just drop and drop her and do |
| 10835s | fleets all over the place and the |
| 10837s | content creators uh that make that |
| 10839s | happen uh should be applauded very in |
| 10842s | stone chart across the fc4 is basically |
| 10845s | a team here today BlackMart pirate what |
| 10848s | do you think about this matchup who |
| 10849s | would you put your uh your Twitch |
| 10850s | Channel points behind |
| 10853s | uh well unfortunately uh I am out of |
| 10856s | twitch Channel points because I suck at |
| 10857s | uh predicting people this time which is |
| 10860s | usually not the case I swear but uh I |
| 10863s | don't know I want to put it behind |
| 10864s | Specter I feel like they would have won |
| 10866s | their last match if they hadn't burned |
| 10868s | their guns out and hopefully that was |
| 10870s | like a learning experience for them |
| 10872s | it says don't burn your guns out |
| 10875s | whereas uh goon's I don't know I I you |
| 10878s | can't vote for goons like it's it's |
| 10880s | against the rules like I personally |
| 10882s | I feel dirty if I do it they've got 40 |
| 10884s | 000 people they should be able to get 10 |
| 10885s | like really good Pilots to win with |
| 10887s | right so |
| 10888s | I'm going for Spectra yeah |
| 10891s | I mean the odds there do seem high for |
| 10894s | students from Federation to be able to |
| 10895s | find the 10 Elite PVP Pilots moderator |
| 10899s | um what about you like as we said before |
| 10901s | goodons not usually known for their |
| 10903s | tournament prowess do you think this |
| 10905s | could be where they start to turn it |
| 10907s | around |
| 10908s | no |
| 10910s | um Specter while they did make a bit of |
| 10912s | a mistake yesterday burning out their |
| 10915s | guns I mean fundamentally they played |
| 10917s | well in their match |
| 10919s | um they just basically choked themselves |
| 10921s | out of that win unfortunately |
| 10923s | um they're the better players and I |
| 10925s | think they're going to come away with |
| 10926s | the w but you know if they lose here I |
| 10929s | you know I will equal to 40 000 down |
| 10932s | votes so |
| 10934s | um |
| 10935s | hoping Specter can prove me right but |
| 10938s | ready for anything to happen here |
| 10942s | awesome thank you well in the event that |
| 10945s | uh Federation are knocked out I'm sure |
| 10947s | we'll see them uh in the next anger |
| 10949s | games |
| 10951s | um but it's time to go straight and find |
| 10952s | out who can win between spec to Fleet |
| 10955s | and gunstorm Federation with your |
| 10957s | casters ish and Alec |
| 10962s | and here we are with Specter and consorm |
| 10965s | and it looks like Specter has brought |
| 10968s | here a balgorn and double T5 comp that |
| 10970s | is a gun balgorn uh with four post laces |
| 10973s | on it and AC t5s and they've also |
| 10976s | brought uh two bombers behind that so |
| 10979s | they're looking to do that high-end |
| 10980s | heavy front-end DPS what is ithaca's |
| 10983s | favorite uh Underdog brought here Alec |
| 10986s | well goonsworm who I also bet on for |
| 10989s | full disclosure has Tempest Fleet issue |
| 10991s | Hyperion EOS for their damage core and |
| 10994s | they've invested points in a Tech 2 |
| 10996s | logistic ship the sceneros they've got a |
| 10998s | bunch of tackle and I wore low end but |
| 11001s | this is generally speaking a fairly |
| 11002s | traditional double Battleship Rush comp |
| 11010s | foreign |
| 11018s | logic and Dodge and we've managed to get |
| 11021s | more reps done or if the tech 2 Cruiser |
| 11023s | will win the day uh |
| 11026s | Drive potential Advantage here is the |
| 11028s | scenarios will be able to rep outside of |
| 11030s | the balgorn's new Range which could |
| 11032s | prove a decisive Advantage if he can |
| 11034s | position correctly |
| 11037s | yeah agreed I think this will be a lot |
| 11039s | of this will come down to uh how that |
| 11042s | Daenerys is going to position on field |
| 11043s | and how long he can avoid losing 100 of |
| 11047s | his capacitor |
| 11049s | would you see the T5 sort of pressing |
| 11050s | into each other |
| 11052s | uh Lord Jackson's OG Navy joining that |
| 11054s | struggle and they're going to look for a |
| 11057s | lock down here the Hyperion not quite |
| 11059s | into the mix yet but he's buzzing in |
| 11061s | there as they close at Hyperion and I |
| 11063s | think we'll start to see the damage wrap |
| 11064s | up ramp up |
| 11067s | yep a mix of e-war damage and rep Bots |
| 11071s | for both teams it's a bit of a drone |
| 11072s | Smorgasbord right now but what you're |
| 11075s | seeing with the uh |
| 11077s | the Specter Fleet bombers that's drone |
| 11080s | damage coming their way meanwhile the OG |
| 11081s | Navy has not only guns on top of him but |
| 11084s | a big cloud of drowns as well |
| 11088s | indeed a rocket Adventure has managed to |
| 11091s | make it yeah he is he's disintegrating |
| 11093s | uh we do see the rocket Vengeance has |
| 11096s | managed to make it to the bombers now |
| 11097s | and he's working into that purifier |
| 11099s | so he should be able to get a purifier |
| 11101s | of the field in due time but Lord |
| 11103s | Jackson's OG Navy does not survive the |
| 11105s | struggle in the mid there with all the |
| 11107s | t5s able to get access to him |
| 11109s | and very crucially the balgorn for |
| 11112s | Specter fleet has burned away he was not |
| 11114s | screened successfully he is on top of |
| 11116s | the aniris needing it dry |
| 11121s | yeah |
| 11122s | damage into it too which is strange it |
| 11124s | could be that he's not in range to hit |
| 11125s | anything else with for full damage but |
| 11127s | either way there's a bunch of split |
| 11129s | damage coming out now from Specter Fleet |
| 11131s | whereas goons are focusing on the |
| 11133s | Tempest Fleet and the purifier however |
| 11135s | neither are dying remarkably fast |
| 11140s | yeah the purifier has a fair bit of |
| 11142s | lodgy bots on it and it's sort of |
| 11143s | managed to sustain them he's not able to |
| 11146s | move anywhere being uh held down there |
| 11147s | by the Vengeance but he is trying his |
| 11149s | best to get all of the torps out he can |
| 11152s | before he goes pop and Tyler in the T5 |
| 11155s | holding on for your dear life at about |
| 11157s | 50 armor hovering there as he |
| 11159s | self-wrapped but without the without the |
| 11162s | help of Logie that it's going to be a |
| 11165s | severe challenge here as this Hyperion |
| 11167s | is he's stable to have free access to |
| 11169s | the T5 and keep whittling it down |
| 11175s | dropped hard they tried to swap over to |
| 11177s | the pontifex which was holding it down |
| 11179s | for the balgorn but too little too late |
| 11181s | that Battleground was allowed free reign |
| 11183s | and it just rampaged right into the back |
| 11185s | line and created this this big hole in |
| 11189s | the Goon comp which they can now no |
| 11191s | longer fill their lodges down and we're |
| 11193s | gonna see the rest of their ships |
| 11194s | falling in very quick order |
| 11198s | yeah unfortunately they did not take |
| 11199s | enough DPS off the field to justify a |
| 11201s | lodging loss so I don't think we're |
| 11204s | going to see that a big recovery here |
| 11206s | and their Hyperion is now has all of |
| 11209s | those balgar newts turned onto itself |
| 11211s | along with additional Notes From The |
| 11212s | Tempest he looks like he's trying to cap |
| 11214s | boost and rep through it but that is |
| 11216s | going to be a really difficult thing to |
| 11218s | juggle for him is going to be losing |
| 11220s | armor a lot faster than he can replace |
| 11222s | it because his cap is going to be |
| 11223s | basically zero except for those few |
| 11226s | seconds right after he pops a cap |
| 11227s | booster charge now dipping to half |
| 11229s | structure and there he goes that is a |
| 11232s | huge huge chunk of their DPS down I do |
| 11234s | not think there is a road to recovery |
| 11236s | here for goonsworm |
| 11238s | unfortunately it seems like their win |
| 11240s | conditions have left the building as now |
| 11243s | they are simply getting whittled down |
| 11244s | getting pushed into balgorn fairly |
| 11247s | comfortable here to stay on that end of |
| 11248s | the field now of course he's been held |
| 11250s | down for a bit by the uh by some hero |
| 11252s | scram out of the Tormentor but I I don't |
| 11254s | think he cares at this point he's just |
| 11256s | gonna switch out the radio throw some |
| 11258s | damage that he can across to that |
| 11259s | Tempest Fleet issue |
| 11261s | and uh still get work done as his team |
| 11264s | finishes the details |
| 11266s | yeah they are on cruise control right |
| 11269s | now this Tempest will drop very fast |
| 11271s | didn't need cap for its guns but does |
| 11273s | need cap for its local rep which is the |
| 11275s | only way it's going to pull back some |
| 11276s | hit points and now we see their low end |
| 11278s | just evaporating that was a tour Mentor |
| 11280s | gone I didn't even see him take a hit he |
| 11282s | just completely vanished in one shot |
| 11285s | it looks like varying got tired of being |
| 11287s | held down all the way back there and |
| 11289s | decided he would uh take that Tormentor |
| 11291s | out once and for all and threw a little |
| 11293s | bit of pulse into him and now we see the |
| 11294s | bagworm buzzing in to help his team uh |
| 11297s | finish off the match here but with just |
| 11298s | Vengeance carries EOS smallest lust |
| 11301s | unfortunately it's not a lot for goons |
| 11303s | to do here to recover |
| 11305s | yeah they're double deacons perfectly |
| 11307s | fine they haven't even been taken into |
| 11309s | armor and the Reps from these deacons |
| 11311s | will be more than enough to keep all the |
| 11313s | rest of their ships alive as this EOS |
| 11315s | drops as well that is the last gasp of |
| 11318s | DPS on the goonstorm team they're done |
| 11321s | now they have a carius malice for e-war |
| 11323s | but nothing to follow up with this |
| 11326s | Vengeance for tackle it is one of the |
| 11328s | tankiest assault frigates in the game |
| 11329s | but we're seeing now just how quickly |
| 11331s | that tank evaporates when it doesn't |
| 11333s | have anything in terms of reps to back |
| 11335s | it up |
| 11337s | yeah I think they were looking for some |
| 11339s | openings to hold down some key ships but |
| 11341s | without the positioning from the onerus |
| 11343s | to avoid getting caught out by the |
| 11345s | balgorn it really just started to fall |
| 11347s | apart it's a good example of where |
| 11350s | Kerry's Mullis is certainly powerful for |
| 11352s | holding off or sort of delaying the |
| 11354s | field and giving that element of control |
| 11356s | but as ships start to pushing close |
| 11358s | micro jump driving he's going for it |
| 11362s | to Glory oh |
| 11366s | I think he only made it 208 I don't |
| 11369s | think he came close to the record but he |
| 11370s | made a good showing |
| 11374s | 205 208 somewhere in there |
| 11376s | 231.5 |
| 11379s | oh my goodness very nice |
| 11383s | that's the record micro jump record |
| 11388s | well it's important |
| 11392s | well done oh my goodness |
| 11395s | well a clean Victory here for Specter |
| 11398s | Fleet as they Advance onwards |
| 11405s | foreign |
| 11432s | [Music] |
| 11434s | foreign |
| 11445s | there |
| 11449s | um welcome back ladies and gentlemen |
| 11450s | goodsworth Federation back in their |
| 11452s | traditional Place uh for Alliance |
| 11454s | tournament which is out of it |
| 11457s | um we thought for a while maybe Alliance |
| 11459s | tournament 18 was going to be the one |
| 11461s | for going from Federation but much like |
| 11464s | Alliance tournaments one through 17 is |
| 11467s | not uh happen to be that way they did |
| 11470s | however set a new record for dying as |
| 11472s | far away from the center of Arena as |
| 11473s | possible |
| 11475s | 231.5 kilometers uh from Azure and |
| 11479s | Oregon there the captain of the gunsm |
| 11481s | Federation team |
| 11482s | um of course you can argue in twitch |
| 11484s | chat all you want about whether that |
| 11485s | counts because it's not on Tranquility |
| 11487s | uh but you know this is an official |
| 11489s | Alliance tournament trials match that's |
| 11492s | uh |
| 11493s | I'd say I'd say it probably leans on the |
| 11495s | side of counting uh somewhere in the |
| 11497s | world |
| 11498s | um Casper 24 just sat up looked around |
| 11501s | and felt a little shiver down his spine |
| 11503s | the previous record holder |
| 11506s | respectively doing great there I really |
| 11508s | dismantled uh that goons Federation team |
| 11511s | rather surgically one after the other uh |
| 11514s | seemed to be moderator just a bit of a |
| 11516s | lack of screening uh from the gun from |
| 11519s | Federation Thai aside |
| 11522s | yeah |
| 11524s | um so we saw that virion stone Shard |
| 11527s | um quite literally ran it down mid past |
| 11528s | the first Tower and into the inhibitor |
| 11531s | uh where he inhibited the oniros from |
| 11533s | doing literally anything when he got a |
| 11536s | newt and a web on top of him and that is |
| 11539s | not where you want to be if you are that |
| 11542s | gun owneros |
| 11544s | um the ships that would have been |
| 11546s | screening him were at Vengeance and the |
| 11549s | Tormentor |
| 11551s | um the Vengeance unfortunately was |
| 11552s | trying to solo PVP bombers which is |
| 11556s | understandable but when those bombers |
| 11557s | are sitting on top of the deacon Duo |
| 11560s | you're never going to break it so what |
| 11562s | you need to do in that situation is you |
| 11564s | know play defensively and mitigate the |
| 11567s | you know 20-something points balgorn |
| 11570s | with your four point Vengeance and |
| 11572s | prevent it and uh once the goons lost to |
| 11575s | that Logie |
| 11577s | um there was no way back into that match |
| 11579s | for them |
| 11581s | yeah it was just like I say kind of |
| 11584s | systematic from uh respectively like |
| 11587s | about pirate um do you think goons |
| 11589s | Federation |
| 11590s | really could have done anything else |
| 11592s | against that execution from respectively |
| 11595s | it seemed like they were in control uh |
| 11597s | they were can they were collected you |
| 11598s | know wood guns need basically to perform |
| 11601s | less good to have a chance there |
| 11604s | I think so like honestly uh comp wise it |
| 11608s | wasn't that much it wasn't a particular |
| 11610s | advantage on one side or the other |
| 11612s | um in my opinion like the specters lead |
| 11615s | setup was a little bit better in the |
| 11616s | sense that it had higher DPS and it had |
| 11618s | a balgorn balgorns are pretty cool but |
| 11621s | like like mod said if they had screened |
| 11623s | the balgor and with the Vengeance then |
| 11625s | what are you gonna do with the valgorn |
| 11628s | um the Spectra flu was kind of spread |
| 11629s | out in a lot of different parts where |
| 11631s | they could have just |
| 11632s | tackle different ships off in different |
| 11634s | areas and then maybe applied something |
| 11636s | uh we did see goons almost get a couple |
| 11638s | kills at the end there |
| 11640s | because they like switched targets but |
| 11642s | again it kind of goes back to that thing |
| 11643s | we've been seeing for this entire |
| 11644s | weekend where people are tunnel |
| 11645s | visioning |
| 11647s | and then think oh maybe we'll beat it if |
| 11649s | we keep shooting it |
| 11651s | and that's not gonna happen unless you |
| 11652s | figure out some way to pressure the |
| 11653s | logistics so |
| 11655s | um you know |
| 11657s | I think that was like actually a skill |
| 11659s | issue on goon's part it wasn't like an |
| 11661s | out Theory crafted per se it wasn't an |
| 11663s | outcome it was just that you know they |
| 11665s | couldn't find 10 good pilots and it's |
| 11667s | unfortunate but I'm actually happy for |
| 11670s | Specter because I think this is going to |
| 11671s | be the first time they've made it |
| 11672s | through the feeders and one of the first |
| 11674s | times they made it and you know has a |
| 11676s | possibility making in the main |
| 11676s | tournament for a really long time so |
| 11678s | it's good for them |
| 11680s | yeah exactly so well done specifically |
| 11682s | for uh for taking that W and |
| 11686s | um eliminating good Confederation from |
| 11687s | the tournament and securing themselves |
| 11689s | at least a place in next weekend |
| 11691s | uh so they still have to secure |
| 11693s | themselves a place in the main |
| 11694s | tournament uh but they will have the |
| 11695s | opportunity to do that |
| 11697s | on day three and four of the trials now |
| 11701s | I just wanted to briefly uh discuss the |
| 11704s | Thunderdome server so for those of you |
| 11706s | who may |
| 11707s | um be new to Alliance tournament in |
| 11709s | general uh you will be thinking hey is |
| 11712s | this happening somewhere on Tranquility |
| 11713s | you know can I go Harvest up these |
| 11716s | wrecks and and sell them or whatever but |
| 11718s | in fact these are half this fight and |
| 11720s | all the fights today are happening on |
| 11722s | the Thunderdome server which is a |
| 11723s | completely separate server from |
| 11725s | Tranquility everyone has maximum skills |
| 11727s | all the ships are free and basically |
| 11729s | points mean absolutely nothing except |
| 11731s | entry into the main tournament itself |
| 11734s | one of the reasons that we do it on |
| 11735s | Thunderdome is it means that |
| 11738s | um the teams don't have to worry about |
| 11739s | losing the esk for the ship so if you're |
| 11741s | a small team that's new the tournaments |
| 11743s | you want to give it a go you don't have |
| 11744s | to worry about trying to find people |
| 11745s | with the right skills like if you're a |
| 11747s | new Bro Corp you don't have to worry |
| 11749s | about if you're finding someone to fund |
| 11751s | buying all the ships and modules to be |
| 11753s | able to fit up you know x amount of comp |
| 11755s | so that when you know your Battleground |
| 11757s | gets banned you have to bring something |
| 11758s | else you have to buy it all of a sudden |
| 11760s | in Jita that can be quite detrimental to |
| 11762s | small teams so we're doing this on |
| 11764s | Thunderdome which is lovingly maintained |
| 11766s | by CCP zealous uh he gets up every |
| 11769s | morning uh has a afar talk with in the |
| 11772s | dome make sure that everyone knows it's |
| 11774s | loved and cared for and he goes about |
| 11776s | the rest of his day uh Thunderdome |
| 11778s | itself now lives in the London uh server |
| 11780s | room with the rest of Tranquility |
| 11781s | there's a long step up from where it |
| 11784s | started which was on a server blade |
| 11786s | under CCP logic bro's desk so uh we |
| 11789s | event here are all super happy with uh |
| 11792s | with the current state of Thunderdome |
| 11794s | and we hope to see more of it in the |
| 11795s | future |
| 11797s | now we can look forward to our next |
| 11799s | match here in the Stark manure tribe |
| 11802s | another elimination match black pirate |
| 11805s | between no Visual and the Ancients |
| 11807s | elimination matches the um the pressure |
| 11810s | certainly going to be on what do you |
| 11812s | think about these bands here |
| 11815s | I really like actually all the bands |
| 11817s | here except for the balgorn I think I've |
| 11819s | said several times I'm not a huge fan of |
| 11821s | these balgorn bands I don't think it's |
| 11823s | that good of a ship granted we just saw |
| 11825s | it goons but yeah does that make it a |
| 11828s | good ship I don't know |
| 11829s | um the Vargas though we've seen a lot of |
| 11831s | bargists uh we've seen a lot of |
| 11834s | scimitars like I think it's probably the |
| 11835s | most common logic ship uh so you know no |
| 11838s | visual Banning the Bargas to the Golem |
| 11840s | they're really not wanting to see that |
| 11843s | you know that rapid heavy kite they |
| 11846s | really don't want to see that Golem |
| 11847s | Tinker we've seen a couple times which |
| 11849s | is fair I think it's been very difficult |
| 11850s | to beat uh ancients not sure about the |
| 11853s | balgorn they must have just feel that |
| 11855s | it's difficult to play into but the |
| 11856s | Scimitar band |
| 11858s | um that honestly |
| 11860s | pretty much bands out Shield kite and |
| 11862s | does a seriously good job about damaging |
| 11865s | some of the other like heavy missile |
| 11867s | setups uh it's honestly pretty good |
| 11869s | against Minotaur Rush as well so I think |
| 11872s | a scimitar band is like a very clear |
| 11874s | sign that you want to fly armor or you |
| 11876s | want to fight against armor |
| 11878s | moderator you've uh you've flown in some |
| 11881s | fairly uh high-level teams in your time |
| 11883s | talk to me about this whole concept of |
| 11886s | like outmitting yourself in in bands and |
| 11889s | things like that like what do what do we |
| 11890s | mean sometimes when that happens |
| 11893s | yeah so |
| 11895s | um once you have been kind of |
| 11900s | um scrimming yourself internally kind of |
| 11902s | like we used to or you have a single |
| 11904s | scrim partner |
| 11906s | um you can kind of |
| 11907s | kind of get in your own head and out |
| 11909s | think yourself and overthink situations |
| 11912s | when really what you just need to do is |
| 11915s | just go with the composition that you |
| 11917s | have most experience with that you know |
| 11920s | everyone can communicate and pilot |
| 11922s | effectively and not try to do any like |
| 11927s | last minute crazy things like saying oh |
| 11929s | hey um I think they're going to bring |
| 11930s | all |
| 11932s | you know all Omar damage let's you know |
| 11935s | Swap all of our uh hardeners to like em |
| 11937s | Instead at like the last minute and then |
| 11940s | you fight like a missile team and now |
| 11942s | all of a sudden all your Em hardeners |
| 11944s | are useless because they can just choose |
| 11946s | whatever damage uh things like that so |
| 11948s | it's very possible to kind of get in |
| 11950s | your own head and kind of um |
| 11953s | double guess yourself especially when |
| 11955s | you're in an elimination match and |
| 11957s | everything is riding on the line and you |
| 11959s | just kind of want to go For Broke |
| 11960s | because you just need to pull up the W |
| 11962s | to keep going but |
| 11965s | um yeah just |
| 11967s | the advice I'd give to most of these |
| 11968s | teams is just go with what you're |
| 11970s | comfortable with go with what you have |
| 11972s | the experience on and play to the best |
| 11974s | of your ability |
| 11976s | yeah sometimes you see that with uh |
| 11978s | younger teams as well uh less in-depth |
| 11981s | video crafting and the best thing to do |
| 11983s | is just pick a couple of comps and just |
| 11985s | run them over and over and over again |
| 11986s | and get really good at flying executing |
| 11987s | those ones and try and do your best with |
| 11989s | them I've seen plenty of times where |
| 11991s | that happens and then they maybe lose |
| 11993s | against some other comp and in the next |
| 11994s | match you see them bring because they |
| 11996s | just lost to they've never flown it |
| 11998s | before they'd never practice with it |
| 11999s | before and all of a sudden uh they're |
| 12001s | trying to to use it rather than just |
| 12003s | bringing what they're comfortable with |
| 12005s | um I've been in that situation myself I |
| 12007s | remember getting absolutely dumpster in |
| 12009s | Alliance tournament 13 by uh Shadow |
| 12011s | cartels bomber Tinker in a practice I |
| 12013s | think the day before the first day of |
| 12015s | Alliance tournament and we immediately |
| 12017s | stole that comp and deployed at the next |
| 12019s | day |
| 12020s | um because we were like wow that pump is |
| 12022s | going to be good and then we lost the |
| 12024s | match so it's easy easily done |
| 12027s | uh but it is time to go to the you know |
| 12029s | for a elimination match between no |
| 12032s | Visual and the ancient with your casters |
| 12035s | firvana and the Basilisk |
| 12044s | welcome back to the arena my name is |
| 12045s | fear joined by the Basilisk and we have |
| 12049s | on the red side |
| 12051s | no visual dots with a triple Battleship |
| 12055s | set up this one with a little Shack and |
| 12057s | a high PRN uh with a tempest Fleet as |
| 12060s | well more armor more control but it's |
| 12063s | more armor than control in this |
| 12065s | particular instance |
| 12067s | yeah and on the other side I think the |
| 12068s | Ancients here are about to discover why |
| 12070s | it's uh generally a pretty bad idea to |
| 12072s | warp to zero unless you're 110 certain |
| 12075s | that you've got the rushiest rush to |
| 12076s | have ever rushed because they've brought |
| 12078s | in these two abandons at zero they've |
| 12079s | got lodgy frigates that warping in at 30 |
| 12081s | so there's not gonna be effective reps |
| 12082s | from The navitestinal Inquisitor on |
| 12083s | these abandons and they've parked up |
| 12085s | right on top of this lashac tempestly |
| 12087s | and Hyperion from no visual who are just |
| 12088s | gonna absolutely Munch through them |
| 12091s | yeah a baton's very tanky ships but |
| 12093s | triple battleship you have three with |
| 12096s | the damage bonus and one of which is a |
| 12098s | little Shack versus two with a damage |
| 12099s | bonus and one with just tracking and |
| 12102s | production Grant you they have these |
| 12103s | Attack Battle Cruisers and these oracles |
| 12105s | perhaps they'll be able to chunk through |
| 12107s | a Target but first uh they have to deal |
| 12110s | with this Le Shack the biggest damage |
| 12113s | dealer out of any ship in the at we'll |
| 12115s | see how well it can do I believe the |
| 12117s | lashac is undefeated through feeders uh |
| 12119s | if I'm not mistaken at the moment |
| 12121s | the thing is as well for the ancient |
| 12123s | series they're also potentially going to |
| 12125s | have to deal with this carries and this |
| 12126s | Confessor who may also have damps in the |
| 12128s | mid so that's potentially five bonus |
| 12129s | stamps here sitting at zero so those |
| 12131s | oracles might find it very very |
| 12133s | difficult to actually lock anything at |
| 12134s | all without burning in and obviously |
| 12135s | oracle's not both tankiest ships in the |
| 12137s | world not exactly where they want to be |
| 12138s | coming up close to the shack and Tempest |
| 12140s | Fleet and all the other sort of stuff |
| 12141s | that they've brought at zero and it's |
| 12142s | about an immediately if it is take |
| 12143s | chunks |
| 12145s | yeah but as is predictable they are |
| 12148s | going for this little Shack first off |
| 12149s | the field if they can take the little |
| 12150s | Shack out perhaps they can survive the |
| 12152s | storm of the other two battleships of |
| 12154s | course the Hyperion very tanky of the |
| 12155s | TFI not nearly as much The Shack in half |
| 12159s | armor Grant you they've got T2 lodgy |
| 12161s | frigs or the T1 lodgy frags what the |
| 12163s | Ancients have brought |
| 12165s | yeah but this Deacon of castrator act |
| 12167s | seems to be running away I don't really |
| 12168s | know where he's going to be honest |
| 12169s | they've got Zone control in the center |
| 12171s | of the Arena here there's not going to |
| 12172s | be as much new pressure from the abaddin |
| 12174s | and and the apocalypse as there is on |
| 12175s | their own team with the Le Shack and the |
| 12176s | Tempest Fleet having multiple utility |
| 12177s | highs and this Deacon is just letting |
| 12179s | his Battleship body die here the slash |
| 12181s | needs you castrator he needs you right |
| 12183s | on top of him he really does |
| 12186s | yeah and Ryan and Natalia are being |
| 12188s | taken down low as well |
| 12190s | Frozen Slayer if he goes down before |
| 12192s | this a bad and this goes the way of the |
| 12194s | Ancients nine times out of ten this Le |
| 12196s | Shack is so important and he's already |
| 12198s | in structure if he goes down this has |
| 12200s | blown wide open after this Deacon not |
| 12203s | being there and the Le Shack is dead |
| 12205s | iska into armor now but they're onto the |
| 12208s | Hyperion |
| 12209s | he goes down and that's criminal I mean |
| 12210s | I think there's still a chance for the |
| 12212s | Ancients to win this despite that the |
| 12213s | shack loss because as time goes on |
| 12214s | they're going to have new pressure as |
| 12215s | you said they've got the more advanced |
| 12217s | logic frigates and these are badons |
| 12218s | obviously apoc as well vulnerable to new |
| 12220s | pressure from this Tempest Fleet but the |
| 12221s | Hyperion of Miss Isbell is dying now |
| 12223s | rapidly in fact and I in general I |
| 12225s | really don't like the Hyperion and |
| 12227s | allowance tournament setting I feel like |
| 12228s | it's so limited I mean blasters in |
| 12231s | general they're such short range and new |
| 12232s | pressure absolutely screws it as well |
| 12234s | and I mean |
| 12235s | the Ancients here are going to sort of |
| 12237s | well I mean |
| 12239s | no visual have just sort of I don't know |
| 12241s | they had they had some strong should |
| 12243s | start with and they've thrown it yeah |
| 12244s | they've thrown it there's no other way |
| 12245s | to put it they've absolutely dumpsted |
| 12247s | their own chances here |
| 12249s | yeah and on top of that right like this |
| 12252s | a baton still hasn't died in iska with |
| 12255s | only T1 lodgy frigs due to the uh |
| 12257s | bonuses that the abaddin gets is just so |
| 12260s | damn tanky he finally Falls but with the |
| 12263s | full damage of two oracles and apoc and |
| 12265s | a baton on this temp of sweet issue even |
| 12267s | with the t2 Logie freaks he will fall |
| 12269s | they're gonna turn their eyes onto Arya |
| 12271s | in the Oracle because that's a lot of |
| 12273s | DPS per the low HP of the Oracle but I |
| 12275s | don't think it's gonna be enough to take |
| 12277s | this match from the ancients |
| 12279s | yeah I think the critical part of of |
| 12282s | this no visual comp is that they have |
| 12284s | the Zone control and when I say Zone |
| 12285s | control I mean sort of new pressure in |
| 12287s | this area you know you you don't if |
| 12288s | you're the enemy team you don't want to |
| 12290s | come into this range where you've got a |
| 12291s | tempest Fleet you've got a lot of Shack |
| 12292s | sitting there you know so they're trying |
| 12294s | to get away we saw one of the abandons I |
| 12296s | think it was Freya gray who was |
| 12297s | untackled he was trying to burn away at |
| 12298s | the start and get out of that zone get a |
| 12300s | little bit of distance between himself |
| 12301s | and the Hyperion and all that damage but |
| 12303s | for them for them for the Deacon himself |
| 12306s | to just sort of abandon that zone |
| 12307s | control and leave the shank to die it's |
| 12309s | it's criminal it's disastrous absolutely |
| 12311s | disastrous and of course once they lose |
| 12313s | those ships once they lose that LE Shack |
| 12315s | and lose the Hyperion the oracles then |
| 12317s | feel oh okay you know they haven't got |
| 12318s | that much DPS left I can now go in as |
| 12320s | well and start making it even worse |
| 12323s | yeah it's it's uh Bad News Bears for no |
| 12327s | visual dot uh as you know as you |
| 12330s | mentioned that key mistake at the |
| 12331s | beginning they lose their Thalia now |
| 12333s | there's not a whole lot left in the tank |
| 12334s | they've only got low end and a stabber |
| 12336s | Fleet issue I mean this one's uh pretty |
| 12339s | much over and it's pilot error really |
| 12342s | from uh the or from no visual dot um |
| 12345s | they could have taken out these oracles |
| 12348s | straight off the chat uh throughout the |
| 12350s | bat they won for Nevada and they thank |
| 12351s | you on or the tankiest ship on the |
| 12355s | side of the Ancients well they could |
| 12357s | have sniped the oracles the oracles were |
| 12358s | in there at close range too uh bad |
| 12362s | Target calling bad piloting from the |
| 12364s | Deacon and it just turns into a absolute |
| 12367s | mess for no visual Dot |
| 12370s | yeah I think as Ithaca was saying |
| 12372s | obviously the theater tournament |
| 12372s | provides an opportunity for teams to get |
| 12374s | involved at low cost and I think there's |
| 12376s | potential here that maybe the decompilot |
| 12377s | got a bit skittish you know he lands at |
| 12378s | zero he sees the three battleships on |
| 12380s | top of many things you know this isn't |
| 12381s | where I want to be and that sort of |
| 12382s | knowledge of what your comp does and you |
| 12385s | know sort of is the enemy more scared of |
| 12387s | you than you should be of them because |
| 12388s | you know if you see these three |
| 12389s | battleships landing on top of you you |
| 12391s | might think oh well you know this isn't |
| 12392s | where I want to be but unless one of |
| 12393s | them is a Vindicated with a 90 web if |
| 12395s | you're in a telemund deacon you can sort |
| 12396s | of hover around 10K sort of range keep |
| 12398s | your reps operational you know keep |
| 12400s | pumping your guy full of HP and not |
| 12402s | worry too much about the presence of |
| 12403s | these three close battleships but if |
| 12405s | you're an inexperienced player you might |
| 12406s | think you know this isn't where I want |
| 12407s | to be I need to get away it's sort of |
| 12408s | the natural Logistics Instinct you know |
| 12410s | we see all these logic Cruisers |
| 12411s | obviously trying to stay around 50 50 |
| 12412s | kilometers maybe you know warpins at |
| 12414s | range and think you know I've got to get |
| 12415s | out of here this isn't where I want to |
| 12416s | be but the lack of new pressure as well |
| 12418s | with the abandons they have new control |
| 12419s | if this match goes for a long time with |
| 12421s | all these battleships clustered on top |
| 12423s | of each other at the center of the Arena |
| 12424s | um no visual would come out on top |
| 12426s | because they've got the new similar |
| 12427s | Shack they've got the news from The |
| 12428s | Tempest Fleet and the abandons obviously |
| 12429s | in their apocalypse the oracles are also |
| 12431s | capacitor Reliant |
| 12434s | yeah it's it as you mentioned just a a |
| 12438s | myriad of mistakes leaving uh the |
| 12441s | Ancients in position here I I do want to |
| 12443s | say uh they did exactly what they needed |
| 12445s | to do at the start of the match nukes |
| 12447s | and lushak off the field uh as that is |
| 12449s | the highest DPS and the highest point |
| 12451s | ship to deal with in a little Shack well |
| 12453s | it's tanky not as tanky as an Abaddon uh |
| 12456s | with that resist bonus that it naturally |
| 12458s | gets and then obviously nuking that |
| 12460s | Hyperion go in the order of damage as |
| 12463s | you need to that looked like a single |
| 12464s | rep High period to me didn't really have |
| 12466s | a whole lot in the tank uh in the way of |
| 12468s | ehp or actual repping power and only |
| 12471s | three frigates remain for no visual Dot |
| 12475s | yeah it's not obviously it's I don't |
| 12477s | think it's a perfect match for the |
| 12478s | Ancients I mean I as at the start a |
| 12479s | question bringing in the battleships at |
| 12480s | zero if you're not certain you have the |
| 12482s | Russia's Rush then you know it's a |
| 12483s | little bit questionable and of course |
| 12484s | they brought in their logic frigates at |
| 12485s | range so if they needed those reps |
| 12487s | um you know they're not going to be |
| 12488s | optimal so in that situation you sort of |
| 12490s | think you know maybe we should bring in |
| 12491s | the battleships a little bit further |
| 12493s | back and sort of take a more measured |
| 12494s | approach |
| 12495s | um but you can only beat what is in |
| 12497s | front of you right you can only beat the |
| 12498s | opponent of the song Good in front of |
| 12499s | you and the ancient star stuff for that |
| 12500s | perhaps deficit based on initial |
| 12502s | position and have actually turned it |
| 12504s | into a win here with good Target calling |
| 12505s | they've correctly taking down the shack |
| 12507s | right off the bat so he can't get |
| 12508s | spalled up and effectively capitalized |
| 12510s | on uh the mistakes here of no visual |
| 12513s | yeah really well played from the |
| 12515s | Ancients uh to pull that out maybe work |
| 12518s | on the warpins next time but as the |
| 12520s | stekin Falls High in and Carries last |
| 12522s | ones remaining I hope they get the |
| 12524s | opportunity to boundary here because it |
| 12526s | will take a long time to catch these two |
| 12528s | very fast ships |
| 12530s | yeah this carries his 100 kilometers |
| 12532s | away from the middle I think he's just |
| 12533s | he's not doesn't seem to be going for a |
| 12534s | beacon he's just sort of burning around |
| 12535s | as is the hyena of Renee but drones are |
| 12537s | going to start arriving on them pontifex |
| 12539s | of Scott Peak is making his way in there |
| 12540s | as well I'm not sure if he's gonna be |
| 12542s | able to catch obviously high end with |
| 12543s | Webbs he's going to keep him off but |
| 12545s | um you know as this is the end of the |
| 12546s | tournament run for no visual I guess |
| 12547s | they want to just enjoy their time in |
| 12548s | the Sun |
| 12550s | yeah I mean I don't blame him |
| 12553s | necessarily but you know the boundary uh |
| 12555s | record has been broken today so I I want |
| 12558s | to see more attempts uh at the mjd |
| 12561s | record uh the carries ends up falling he |
| 12563s | bound to read I believe don't know what |
| 12565s | the distance was we're gonna get it from |
| 12567s | ccps |
| 12568s | 126. so you know he's just |
| 12572s | trying to go down so that is |
| 12575s | unfortunately going to be the ending |
| 12579s | and they will move on to the playoffs |
| 12583s | we're gonna throw it to the desk real |
| 12584s | quick to break down that match and bring |
| 12585s | us into the next one |
| 12596s | thank you |
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| 12612s | [Music] |
| 12619s | foreign |
| 12621s | foreign |
| 12627s | [Music] |
| 12637s | [Music] |
| 12652s | the Ancients taking the W over no visual |
| 12655s | there |
| 12656s | um in a very exciting match uh I'm I've |
| 12659s | loved that much that was super fun to |
| 12661s | watch uh you know big chunky laser boys |
| 12664s | just pummeling DPS into that LE Shack it |
| 12667s | was a race to the bottom who's gonna die |
| 12669s | first and in this case it was XX Frozen |
| 12671s | X Slayer in his Le Shack he could not |
| 12674s | take down iska in the abaddin proving |
| 12678s | once again that lasers are definitely |
| 12680s | going to be the way forward in this |
| 12682s | minute art themed uh competition |
| 12684s | Blackboard Pirates how is that match for |
| 12687s | you |
| 12689s | uh I have I I really liked it um I've |
| 12692s | been saying kind of in our internal |
| 12695s | little channels I've been saying that |
| 12696s | I'm pretty sure that a laser rush like |
| 12699s | that would be almost every single team |
| 12700s | that we thought or we've seen so far |
| 12703s | um I feel Vindicated because it did uh |
| 12706s | honestly I'm I don't want to be that I'm |
| 12709s | I'm not gonna say I want to be that guy |
| 12710s | I totally want to be that guy I mean I'm |
| 12711s | going to counter one thing that fear |
| 12713s | said during the commentary because he |
| 12714s | said that it was kind of a piloting |
| 12716s | error perhaps and in all honesty that |
| 12720s | match was over as soon as no visual |
| 12722s | worked in at zero like that was it |
| 12724s | they're done |
| 12726s | um we've seen it happen a couple times |
| 12728s | you should never ever warp at zero |
| 12729s | unless you are 100 sure that if someone |
| 12732s | else works at zero they're not going to |
| 12734s | be showing a brawl and |
| 12736s | unfortunately uh every single major ship |
| 12740s | that they had was tackled immediately |
| 12743s | because they worked at zero and the only |
| 12745s | targets they could have shot were the |
| 12746s | abaddens because like in hyperion's |
| 12748s | pretty short range right like yeah you |
| 12750s | could load null and shoot out to like 20 |
| 12751s | or 25 but that's not that good uh kind |
| 12754s | of leadership pretty short range you |
| 12756s | could load hail or load barrage and |
| 12758s | shoot out pretty far again not that good |
| 12759s | if you're tackling on top of the |
| 12761s | abandons and you want to maximize damage |
| 12762s | in a DPS race you kind of have to go |
| 12764s | after it so it was unfortunate |
| 12767s | um I think that it would have been a |
| 12769s | totally different game if no visual had |
| 12771s | warped in at like 20 or 30 or maybe even |
| 12773s | 10 but they just got completely melted |
| 12776s | by like seven thousand DPS worth of |
| 12777s | lasers |
| 12780s | and mod the The Shack is 25 points right |
| 12785s | and the abandon is 20 points the fleet |
| 12788s | Tempest is 20 points the Hyperion is 19 |
| 12790s | points you know it's a lot of points for |
| 12793s | a single ship uh why why so many points |
| 12795s | and is it still worth bringing it that |
| 12797s | high cost |
| 12799s | yeah the deal with the Le Shack is that |
| 12802s | it doesn't start out with a lot of |
| 12804s | damage but when it ramps up fully um |
| 12807s | with close range ammo |
| 12809s | um you're doing 2000 damage and not only |
| 12812s | are you doing 2000 damage you're doing 2 |
| 12815s | 000 Omni damage |
| 12817s | um so you're not running into the |
| 12820s | reactive armor hardener issue that teams |
| 12823s | often run into when they bring say all |
| 12826s | lasers right where |
| 12828s | um if a ship does hold on long enough |
| 12830s | and it shifts its reactive hardener to |
| 12833s | all em therm yeah maybe you eventually |
| 12835s | break it but how long did you spend |
| 12838s | breaking it did you spend so much time |
| 12840s | like art was talking earlier that you |
| 12842s | just kind of you know spent four minutes |
| 12845s | trying to kill one ship and all of a |
| 12846s | sudden you've lost all your support core |
| 12848s | and you've lost the match now |
| 12851s | um I mean in this case like |
| 12853s | or was saying about the kind of the |
| 12855s | armor Rush |
| 12857s | um |
| 12858s | Oracle pretty cheap a bad and pretty |
| 12861s | cheap |
| 12862s | um sometimes you put out a few thousand |
| 12865s | laser damage and your 25 Point Le Shack |
| 12867s | never gets to split up to that 2000 |
| 12869s | because it dies in the first minute of |
| 12872s | the match |
| 12874s | and also if that the shack happens to |
| 12876s | warp in at zero get tackled and then |
| 12879s | whatever it wants to shoot at just burns |
| 12881s | away in and out of its uh range and of |
| 12883s | course it's going to reset that spill |
| 12884s | every single time uh Bart we saw also um |
| 12889s | the tech one Logistics frigates being |
| 12891s | brought by the Ancients going up against |
| 12893s | uh the tech 2 Logistics triggers brought |
| 12896s | by no visual a difference of 10 points |
| 12899s | to just two you know do you think that |
| 12902s | the tech two logistic vehicles are five |
| 12904s | times better than tech one in this case |
| 12906s | or you know was it wise move to spend |
| 12908s | those points in the bigger ships here |
| 12911s | uh they're they're definitely not worth |
| 12914s | five times as much |
| 12916s | um I I don't think in that specific |
| 12918s | match it mattered all that much that it |
| 12920s | was Tech One versus Tech Two uh |
| 12922s | obviously taekwon taekwon armor forgets |
| 12924s | are not great |
| 12926s | um I think they rep about 60 to 75 as |
| 12929s | much as a Tech Two I don't think it |
| 12930s | would have saved them if they had |
| 12932s | brought you know a deacon and athalia |
| 12933s | instead of an Inquisitor and uh Navitas |
| 12935s | uh but I understand why they did it |
| 12938s | because in regards to survivability |
| 12941s | Tech 2 Logistics forgets actually can |
| 12943s | survive we're tech one like you any ship |
| 12947s | can look at them and basically take them |
| 12948s | down um I'm pretty sure like if you had |
| 12951s | two sipples you could put them on each |
| 12952s | frigid and they both forgets that |
| 12954s | they're tech one or Tech Two wouldn't |
| 12955s | care so uh I'm not saying you shouldn't |
| 12958s | bring tech one frigates obviously we |
| 12960s | just saw them win uh I just don't think |
| 12962s | that in most situations tech one |
| 12965s | logistics for kids are a great idea it's |
| 12967s | it's kind of a weird I hate to say oh it |
| 12968s | depends but in it depends I don't think |
| 12971s | it would have mattered in that match |
| 12974s | awesome awesome |
| 12976s | um so that was the uh second of the |
| 12978s | Start Community matchups uh in the last |
| 12981s | couple of matches so no visual being |
| 12984s | eliminated from the feeders the Ancients |
| 12986s | living to survive next weekend we will |
| 12990s | see them again uh looking for a place in |
| 12993s | Alliance tournament itself so start |
| 12995s | coming here a uh the winner of that uh |
| 12998s | tribe is scary Wormhole people and the |
| 13000s | runner-up is Specter Fleet spark |
| 13002s | Stockman Air B winner Rusty hyenas Clan |
| 13005s | and runner-up is the Ancients so we say |
| 13008s | goodbye to gunstorm Federation and no |
| 13012s | Visual and now we look forward to the |
| 13015s | next one which is the crucial uh tribal |
| 13018s | group so right now sitting at the top of |
| 13020s | group a is percussive Pizza Time |
| 13022s | diplomacy uh the gal Mill uh Heroes of |
| 13026s | the Federation uh sitting above snuffed |
| 13029s | out and out Fox Group B is hidden Leaf |
| 13032s | Village Ninja Assassin Squad called |
| 13035s | Esports sitting above officer in mind |
| 13038s | and Moss piglet preservation Society so |
| 13041s | we are going to see a uh I think another |
| 13045s | couple of elimination matches coming up |
| 13048s | depending on how these ones work out our |
| 13050s | next match of the day is going to be |
| 13052s | percussive Pizza Time diplomacy versus |
| 13055s | out Fox |
| 13057s | um |
| 13058s | question for you pineapple and pizza |
| 13060s | what do you think yes or no |
| 13062s | absolutely not |
| 13064s | okay moderator yes or no pineapple and |
| 13067s | pizza |
| 13068s | disgusting |
| 13070s | okay well you're both wrong pineapple |
| 13071s | pizza is delicious |
| 13073s | um and uh you can all at me all you want |
| 13076s | but everyone who disagrees is wrong and |
| 13078s | I'm going to use my |
| 13080s | I'm being asked by the producer uh well |
| 13082s | bear Jay |
| 13083s | I diligaf so it's uh it's delicious give |
| 13087s | me all the pineapple on the pizza it's |
| 13090s | fantastic uh it's uh it's just more more |
| 13092s | pineapple that's right put it all on I |
| 13095s | love myself a good pineapple pizza |
| 13098s | um yeah spam Pizza emojis if you like |
| 13100s | pineapple and pizza it's definitely an |
| 13102s | emoji in twitch so make sure you use |
| 13104s | them uh to support an apple on pizza |
| 13107s | um let's look at the bands for |
| 13109s | percussive piece of Tanks diplomacy and |
| 13110s | out forked and see if Fox have chosen to |
| 13112s | ban pineapple |
| 13116s | here we are so Progressive Pizza Time |
| 13118s | Banning typhoon flea tissue and the EOS |
| 13121s | so afraid of those drone comps afraid of |
| 13123s | that type and Fleet issue out Fox |
| 13125s | Banning balgorn I've been told it is the |
| 13127s | number one must banned ship thus far in |
| 13130s | the tournament and also the Gila so out |
| 13132s | forked by virtue of not Banning |
| 13134s | pineapple are also supporting pineapple |
| 13136s | on pizza so good for them uh moderator |
| 13139s | what do you think about these bands here |
| 13141s | they're looking fairly standard at this |
| 13143s | point |
| 13145s | yeah I think we're gonna see a lot of |
| 13147s | EOS bands as the tournament continues |
| 13149s | like Bart and I think literally every |
| 13151s | other |
| 13152s | um analyst has been saying when you take |
| 13154s | out EOS you take out kind of this uh |
| 13157s | linchpin uh command ship that you want |
| 13159s | to have in a drone comp |
| 13161s | um typhoon Fleet issue is just an |
| 13163s | excellent Battleship for the point value |
| 13165s | it brings and then balgorn again you see |
| 13170s | it a lot kind of in these sort of |
| 13171s | preliminary |
| 13172s | stages and probably in the early at |
| 13175s | people just really get it in their heads |
| 13178s | after playing a lot of scrims that I |
| 13180s | really hate doing with battleborns and |
| 13182s | Gila has been Good Sense forever so |
| 13186s | pretty standard bands at this point |
| 13189s | bar do you think when we get to three |
| 13191s | bands in the main tournament that we |
| 13194s | will see |
| 13195s | um some of these laser boats maybe like |
| 13197s | the abaddin the Oracle start to appear |
| 13199s | in bands uh or what's your what's your |
| 13200s | thinking if you could ban more ships |
| 13204s | uh I don't think I would ban |
| 13208s | I don't think I would ban the abandon |
| 13210s | per se um I think there are other ships |
| 13212s | you could ban to make the about and like |
| 13214s | that laser Rush not work uh I don't |
| 13216s | think I banned the balgorn either I |
| 13218s | think we'd start seeing things like like |
| 13220s | EOS curse uh slepner would be a good one |
| 13223s | like we've seen we've seen nematar Rush |
| 13225s | doing very very well |
| 13227s | um I think I don't know what the actual |
| 13228s | win percentage is uh but you know we |
| 13231s | will probably have that for next time uh |
| 13233s | but it feels like it's winning a lot so |
| 13235s | I'm gonna go off my feelings all three |
| 13237s | of them |
| 13238s | uh yeah I would expect like EOS curse uh |
| 13241s | sleptner Le Shack seem to be doing |
| 13243s | really really well even though they're |
| 13245s | 25 points |
| 13246s | um so maybe some more Shack fans coming |
| 13248s | out |
| 13249s | but I I don't think the uh |
| 13252s | I don't necessarily think the laser Rush |
| 13254s | is like the thing like you can counter |
| 13255s | it by warping at 30. |
| 13257s | just saying true you couldn't decanter |
| 13261s | by warping it Thursday uh but let's find |
| 13263s | out if anyone's warped it there too if |
| 13265s | anyone's warped at zero as we go to the |
| 13267s | arena and see percussive Pizza Time |
| 13268s | diplomacy versus Outfox with your |
| 13271s | casters ish and Alec |
| 13279s | what's up everybody Alec here percussive |
| 13281s | Pizza Time diplomacy being a very |
| 13284s | interesting setup |
| 13286s | uh double broadsword not used to seeing |
| 13290s | that one uh We've also got double |
| 13292s | Seffner with a Loki and then Tech 2 |
| 13294s | Logistics support fragrance |
| 13296s | but have they been out Fox Tish |
| 13300s | well everyone's favorite cat years team |
| 13303s | has brought a bar guest to play and |
| 13306s | they've brought actually a hick of their |
| 13307s | own a single Rod sword but same deal |
| 13310s | that already broadsword setup but |
| 13312s | instead going to be working in Tangent |
| 13314s | with that bar guest there they've also |
| 13316s | brought the tech 2 logi in the Scimitar |
| 13319s | and then they brought in some bombers to |
| 13321s | hit those big targets and an orthos for |
| 13324s | the projection and some hyena for |
| 13326s | lockdown so we'll see how they uh work |
| 13328s | out versus the damage and the control |
| 13331s | the hit control from pizza time |
| 13334s | yeah this is a curious setup it's a a |
| 13337s | rush con it's a rush with a control |
| 13340s | element to it |
| 13342s | we'll see if they can pull this off I |
| 13344s | think they're drastically lacking in |
| 13346s | damage which might be the issue here for |
| 13347s | Progressive Pizza time but both teams |
| 13349s | have clashed into each other now uh |
| 13351s | percussive going after the bar cast of |
| 13353s | Outfox meanwhile Chad Flames schleffner |
| 13357s | already dipping into one-third Shield |
| 13359s | dropping rather rapidly and they're |
| 13361s | splitting fire between it and one of |
| 13363s | their kirins |
| 13365s | yeah with Chad being there caught in a |
| 13368s | triangle between uh Ashley's T5 and |
| 13370s | Teddy's bar guest that's definitely a |
| 13372s | lot of damage for a single to take |
| 13374s | on and endure they do have this bar |
| 13376s | guest locked down and they want to try |
| 13378s | to pump the damage into it at the same |
| 13380s | time uh these bombers are probably |
| 13382s | gaining a little bit of torp application |
| 13383s | too we see lots of paint going out and |
| 13386s | some good control happening here so |
| 13388s | there's definitely gonna be a challenge |
| 13389s | and there Chad flame goes and he's |
| 13391s | popped though |
| 13396s | it's definitely a challenge they will |
| 13398s | trade for the bar guest here it's a |
| 13400s | question of how quickly can they do it |
| 13401s | the longer it takes the worse off |
| 13403s | they're going to be meanwhile their |
| 13405s | Kieran is about to drop as well he's |
| 13407s | hanging on for dear life the only |
| 13410s | anti-logistics uh |
| 13413s | tools that here Casa pizza time seems to |
| 13416s | have as a lone flight of ECM drones |
| 13418s | which is parked on top of the Scimitar |
| 13420s | and that is not exactly inspiring |
| 13424s | because if they lose this sleffner that |
| 13427s | is pretty much all of their damage that |
| 13428s | the Loki will be kicking out quite a bit |
| 13430s | but it's not going to be enough to cut |
| 13431s | through a logistic ship this broadcast |
| 13434s | will die first which is huge this will |
| 13437s | buy that Seffner a lot of breathing room |
| 13439s | but what can they do with that time |
| 13442s | yeah if he's got some anti-charges left |
| 13444s | in that stack which looks like he should |
| 13446s | have about three left here uh he should |
| 13448s | be able to pump through and and actually |
| 13449s | maybe pull off some survival if he can |
| 13452s | get moving now of course can't be |
| 13454s | understood it looks like a 19 kilometer |
| 13456s | scrams going out everywhere |
| 13459s | yeah it looks like they're they're |
| 13460s | trying to go for the other Battleship |
| 13462s | trying to uh cut off the head of the DPS |
| 13464s | here but the mollus also taking quite a |
| 13467s | bit of fire as well as the Manticore |
| 13469s | they're kind of splitting all over the |
| 13471s | place here Progressive piece of time |
| 13473s | diplomacy having a hard time figuring |
| 13474s | out their path forward against out Fox |
| 13479s | that's all for the ASP charges he's out |
| 13482s | yeah and down he goes and the mullet |
| 13485s | Falls at the same time to the Rockets |
| 13487s | out of the vigil Fleet the vigil Fleet |
| 13489s | doing a little bit of hero damage there |
| 13491s | besides his usual webbing duties |
| 13494s | we do see the story terrible trade |
| 13498s | yeah it's unfortunate |
| 13503s | those Tempest sounds it's not gonna be |
| 13505s | nearly as tanky as the barg but they |
| 13508s | don't they just don't have a lot to push |
| 13509s | through it and that Scimitar is still |
| 13511s | alive still pumping out reps it's not |
| 13514s | even harassed at the moment the ECM |
| 13515s | drones that wear on it are dead so they |
| 13518s | must have been one of the sleffner's it |
| 13520s | is now moving around totally freely not |
| 13522s | under any new pressure not under any |
| 13524s | significant electronic warfare it's just |
| 13527s | gonna keep this Tempest Fleet nice and |
| 13530s | healthy in its optimal Shield regen all |
| 13532s | this low-key of elicon is dropping ever |
| 13534s | so slowly closer to armor bleed |
| 13538s | yeah and unfortunately he won't be able |
| 13540s | to make it through as he hits an armor |
| 13542s | he'll fall very rapidly uh Loki's able |
| 13545s | to represent quite a lot of tank but not |
| 13546s | in this kind of scenario without some |
| 13549s | serious saving it's just not going to |
| 13550s | happen we see Bradley's uh broadsword |
| 13553s | being worked on next as they they're |
| 13555s | still trying to get out Fox T5 down here |
| 13558s | uh but it's not it doesn't look like |
| 13560s | they're really going to have anything to |
| 13561s | be able to get that done |
| 13563s | and only now is percussive Pizza Time |
| 13566s | going after the Scimitar they've put out |
| 13568s | a stipple to go catch it and now it |
| 13569s | looks like they're sending every ship |
| 13571s | that isn't heavily tackled on top of it |
| 13574s | that's a good move but it's too little |
| 13576s | too late |
| 13577s | yeah we do see the visual Fleet bearing |
| 13579s | down on it but it's not going to be |
| 13581s | enough damage that they're able to |
| 13583s | collapse onto that |
| 13585s | and we see piece of time bring down |
| 13587s | their Jaguar as well but the hyena from |
| 13590s | uh fox has actually been able to pull |
| 13593s | the vigil Fleet out of there and vigil |
| 13595s | Fleet goes down and the Scimitar once |
| 13597s | again free to do what he wants Zippo has |
| 13600s | come in for a tackle but he's just not |
| 13601s | going to be able to get anything done is |
| 13603s | the orthos already on top of them and |
| 13605s | that's going to spell certain Doom |
| 13608s | now they are putting out significant |
| 13610s | damage into this Scimitar he will be |
| 13612s | running an ancillary Shield booster as |
| 13613s | well so his tank has a time limit on it |
| 13616s | they are pushing him to the point where |
| 13618s | he's probably firing it pretty close to |
| 13620s | the reload so it is possible the |
| 13623s | Scimitar will drop but once it does |
| 13625s | they're just not going to have the |
| 13626s | Firepower to make significant Headway |
| 13628s | against the remaining Battleship |
| 13630s | broadsword worthless combo that out Fox |
| 13632s | still has on the field |
| 13636s | yeah agreed and with that mandicore |
| 13637s | Nemesis still up there you can still get |
| 13639s | some hits into a broad sword with a |
| 13641s | broadsword of course chooses to bake the |
| 13643s | heck Point uh it couldn't receive lodgy |
| 13646s | even if it had lodgy to receive so it's |
| 13649s | going to be uh |
| 13651s | it's going to be challenging for a piece |
| 13653s | of time to survive here |
| 13655s | to their credit the Pizza Time Logistics |
| 13657s | frigates are doing their best to keep |
| 13659s | the remainder of their team alive they |
| 13661s | just have a very uphill battle here |
| 13663s | with both the jaguar and the broadsword |
| 13665s | taking chunks now now the Jag is down |
| 13668s | the broadsword is sure to follow shortly |
| 13672s | yeah credit where credits do uh these |
| 13674s | logic freaks are not running away they |
| 13676s | they tried initially earlier into the |
| 13678s | match tried to use some of their bigger |
| 13680s | ships as sort of a protection but they |
| 13681s | are trying to get those reps pumped out |
| 13683s | there it's just not enough to save |
| 13685s | what's left on field and now it's just a |
| 13687s | matter of finishing off those heroic |
| 13689s | logic frigs and their simple friend as |
| 13692s | Outfox will take the cat ear style win |
| 13696s | a brilliant job by Outfox uh was a very |
| 13701s | interesting setup from percussive I |
| 13703s | wonder if they were planning for a |
| 13704s | different team something that would uh |
| 13706s | try to kite away from them a bit more |
| 13708s | but had thinner tanks |
| 13710s | not what they ran into here they ran |
| 13712s | into a big old barcast Tempest right in |
| 13714s | their face |
| 13717s | yeah it seemed as he said that they were |
| 13719s | anticipating something that might try to |
| 13720s | push off a little bit and perhaps they |
| 13722s | were hoping with that double broadsword |
| 13724s | lockdown so they could catch a key |
| 13726s | Target in flight but it just wasn't to |
| 13729s | be uh out foxes not afraid to play |
| 13731s | completely into them and uh that |
| 13734s | aggression proved to be a good winning |
| 13736s | point |
| 13739s | turning it back to the analyst desk |
| 13743s | now for the triglovian weather report |
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| 13796s | thank you |
| 13804s | percussive Pizza Time diplomacy getting |
| 13807s | pepperonid by Outfox there as Outfox |
| 13811s | takes the win sorry Bart was that pun |
| 13814s | too cheesy for you |
| 13816s | um unfortunately without Fox though |
| 13818s | unfortunately far out Fox though |
| 13822s | um they may have won the match but they |
| 13824s | have lost the war as in their particular |
| 13827s | bracket uh snuffed Out percussive Pizza |
| 13830s | in Columbia and out Fox all finish on |
| 13832s | one win a piece one and one so we have |
| 13835s | to go to the tie Breakers and the first |
| 13837s | ordered tiebreaker is the rust score how |
| 13840s | many Minotaur ships each team brought in |
| 13843s | the points value these points are not |
| 13845s | affected by Point inflation so you don't |
| 13848s | get extra for bringing more of the same |
| 13849s | one and with that because of Pizza Time |
| 13853s | diplomacy take the top spot in crucial a |
| 13855s | they are the winners and number two the |
| 13858s | runners-up snuffed out bringing uh |
| 13861s | approximately 29 points more of Minotaur |
| 13865s | ships in their matches and out Fox so it |
| 13869s | is with great shame we say that perhaps |
| 13871s | we should have brought more Minotaur |
| 13873s | ships to the Minotaur themed tournament |
| 13876s | uh moderator we saw there that the fox |
| 13880s | bomb bombers warped in at 20. that |
| 13882s | seemed like a very bold move but it |
| 13885s | seemed to pay off for them |
| 13887s | yeah it was in fact a Bald Move carton I |
| 13891s | thought that at some point that the |
| 13893s | slipel and the Jaguar that were on field |
| 13897s | would get on top of those bombers and |
| 13900s | kill them uh |
| 13903s | because when you rush your slept near |
| 13907s | into a bar guest and then bombers it |
| 13910s | usually doesn't really pan out well for |
| 13911s | you and that's more or less laid out |
| 13913s | here so uh they needed to get the jaguar |
| 13916s | and the disciple on top of those bombers |
| 13918s | that warped in entirely too close like |
| 13920s | you were alluding to and they might have |
| 13923s | had a much better |
| 13924s | outcome in that match |
| 13928s | yeah it's um I'm just being told by uh |
| 13931s | by Gentile those bombers were 20K ehp no |
| 13934s | prop bombers uh Blackboard pirate bit of |
| 13937s | an unusual uh tactic there do you think |
| 13940s | or is that some way to maybe go off the |
| 13942s | wall and try and actually win |
| 13945s | I mean I guess I would work like bait |
| 13948s | stealth bombers I |
| 13950s | I don't know I mean it would have been |
| 13951s | kind of interesting to see um I was I |
| 13953s | was saying in our little commentary |
| 13954s | thing uh that |
| 13957s | really uh they needed to go after |
| 13959s | outfox's low line because of what |
| 13961s | moderator said but you know now that we |
| 13963s | know in hindsight after the fact that |
| 13965s | they were in fact made stealth bombers |
| 13967s | then maybe that wasn't the right call I |
| 13969s | don't know uh personally I would never |
| 13971s | expect it to be bait stealth bombers so |
| 13973s | it's kind of kind of sad that it didn't |
| 13975s | happen I'm actually really curious if he |
| 13976s | would have won in case you know if they |
| 13978s | did actually go for the bait stealth |
| 13980s | bombers |
| 13981s | you know I remember just talking in the |
| 13983s | previous segment about not like out |
| 13985s | thinking yourself and doing like crazy |
| 13987s | and now all of a sudden we see a 22 |
| 13990s | stealth bomber win so |
| 13991s | you know hey exception to every rule but |
| 13994s | unfortunately they don't advance I am |
| 13996s | breathing a sigh of relief that snuff |
| 13998s | does make it onto the playoffs so uh |
| 14001s | yeah sorry they didn't bring more |
| 14003s | minotaurships but hey snuff goes on so |
| 14005s | that's cool |
| 14007s | yeah snuff does indeed go on and it |
| 14009s | looks like they'll be facing a hidden |
| 14011s | Leaf Village Ninja Assassin Squad |
| 14013s | Esports next week |
| 14015s | um in the matches to see if they can |
| 14018s | continue to keep going on |
| 14020s | um spoiler alert I don't think they will |
| 14023s | um but we need to find out who is going |
| 14025s | to be the runner-up in crucial B here uh |
| 14029s | on day two of Alliance tournament |
| 14031s | feeders or trials I should say we still |
| 14034s | have officer in mind and most piglet |
| 14037s | preservation Society both sitting on |
| 14039s | zero wins so this next match will be |
| 14042s | another elimination match uh to |
| 14045s | determine who remains and who does not |
| 14048s | let's take a quick look at the bands |
| 14050s | between officer and mind and Moss piglet |
| 14053s | reservation Society so also in mind |
| 14055s | Banning again we see the EOS band super |
| 14058s | popular I'd gather it's probably up |
| 14059s | there as uh you know Common a ban almost |
| 14063s | as the bar guest maybe sorry the ball |
| 14065s | ground maybe not quite as common but |
| 14067s | it's definitely up there we see loads of |
| 14068s | them but I don't see very many Cerberus |
| 14071s | bands but certain mind choosing to ban |
| 14074s | one anyway most piglet preservation |
| 14076s | Society Banning a bit more normal ships |
| 14078s | Vindicator and the slept near uh |
| 14081s | Blackbird pirate in what world do you |
| 14083s | ban a servers here |
| 14087s | uh I think the only reason to do so is |
| 14089s | that they really don't want to fight |
| 14091s | like a rapid light missile kite that |
| 14094s | being said I don't know if a Cerberus |
| 14096s | ban is the best way to stop that |
| 14098s | um the Cerberus is definitely not the |
| 14101s | key to a rapid light missile kite setup |
| 14102s | that would be the Scimitar so if you had |
| 14105s | a scimitar you have to bring a basilisk |
| 14107s | or an osprey or logic frigates none of |
| 14108s | which are particularly good at going |
| 14110s | really fast away from people meaning the |
| 14113s | servers just means you could bring like |
| 14114s | an orthos uh you bring healers you could |
| 14117s | bring Navy Ospreys you could bring |
| 14120s | um caracals like just regular old |
| 14122s | caracals Drakes like there's a lot of |
| 14124s | ships that can take the place of a |
| 14126s | Cerberus |
| 14127s | so I think this is probably a case of |
| 14130s | them having done some testing uh |
| 14132s | probably lost they probably lose to some |
| 14135s | guys that fly rapid light all the time |
| 14136s | and they've zeroed in on the Cerberus as |
| 14138s | the problem |
| 14140s | not piloting shipcon uh scimitars |
| 14144s | scimitars Scimitar scimitars so I'm not |
| 14148s | sure about the Serb uh we'll see |
| 14151s | I kind of hope that they bring it I hope |
| 14152s | their opponent brings a rapid light comp |
| 14154s | that just doesn't bring services and |
| 14155s | wins with it now just for the sake of it |
| 14156s | but we'll see what happens I can tell |
| 14158s | you I can tell you they won't bring |
| 14159s | Cyrus is because it's banned |
| 14162s | um moderator you've been in the |
| 14164s | situation before |
| 14165s | um with teams either as a captain or as |
| 14167s | one of the theater Crafters |
| 14168s | um where you've had a significant input |
| 14170s | on the band choices and what kind of |
| 14173s | goes through the minds of of captains |
| 14175s | when you're deciding what bands to |
| 14177s | pretend especially in these blind band |
| 14179s | scenarios that we have here |
| 14182s | yeah so I mean first off I would |
| 14186s | kind of see if we had any intel when we |
| 14188s | slide on teams and see like what are |
| 14190s | they good at what are they bad at if |
| 14192s | they if there was a setup that I knew |
| 14194s | that a team was particularly good at I |
| 14195s | would just stand that out and say hey |
| 14197s | we're going to force you to run |
| 14199s | something you're less comfortable with |
| 14202s | um and we're going to try to force you |
| 14203s | into |
| 14205s | um an archetype that we we know we can |
| 14209s | beat you with I think if some of the |
| 14211s | commentators have been alluding to |
| 14213s | they're definitely set up so we're going |
| 14214s | to see later in this event that |
| 14217s | um are very just generically good |
| 14218s | against most teams and if you can pan |
| 14221s | out the counters to that you're going to |
| 14223s | do very well in this event |
| 14225s | um but when I see something like a |
| 14228s | fan of a Cerberus and then an EOS it |
| 14231s | says I really really hate getting kited |
| 14234s | so yoast go to drone kite Cerberus |
| 14237s | generally good at kite comps in general |
| 14239s | um slept near Vindicator a little bit |
| 14241s | more traditional bins again slept near |
| 14244s | part of that Minotaur rush we see all |
| 14245s | the time a Vindicator just kind of very |
| 14249s | generic armor Battleship band in general |
| 14253s | so if you see a team binding |
| 14257s | um a bunch of kiting stuff against you |
| 14259s | saying hey you know Telegraph and we |
| 14261s | don't want to see kite there's two |
| 14263s | schools of thoughts one is bring kite |
| 14265s | because they don't want to see kite and |
| 14267s | the other school of thought is maybe |
| 14269s | they just want us to think we don't want |
| 14270s | to see kite and we want you to bring |
| 14273s | kite so we're going to pretend to |
| 14274s | Pancake and then bring something that we |
| 14276s | know characters Katie Combs how do you |
| 14277s | get out of that Circle of meta death |
| 14283s | um by bringing |
| 14285s | um |
| 14285s | other drone comps or I bring King Slayer |
| 14288s | and then I just out control you and be |
| 14291s | you because I'm a better player anyway |
| 14295s | there you go that's the top Tech on the |
| 14297s | desk just be better if you ever find |
| 14299s | yourself in a situation where you're not |
| 14300s | winning stop it and when instead uh Bart |
| 14304s | uh do you do you agree with this uh this |
| 14307s | tactic just be better |
| 14310s | I I think that you look at your opponent |
| 14313s | and kind of you know not just assume |
| 14317s | that you're going to be better like look |
| 14318s | at them and think okay how good are |
| 14319s | these guys really like |
| 14322s | maybe if you look at them and say like |
| 14324s | their previous match they weren't |
| 14325s | particularly great Pilots then you bring |
| 14328s | kite |
| 14329s | because you know that they're not gonna |
| 14330s | out pilot you right |
| 14332s | um generally especially like at the |
| 14335s | point we're at where we're not doing |
| 14336s | like best of Threes And best of fives |
| 14338s | yet you're probably not going to ban a |
| 14340s | setup because you're trying to bait your |
| 14342s | opponent into picking that setup with |
| 14344s | lesser ships |
| 14346s | probably yeah I noticed the comments in |
| 14349s | twitch chat |
| 14350s | main games are always going to happen in |
| 14352s | in the last room it's one of the reasons |
| 14353s | why we love it I think |
| 14355s | um I mean pandemic Legion historically |
| 14357s | not recently um have been excellent at |
| 14359s | that part of the meta and weren't |
| 14361s | exactly the best execution team not a |
| 14363s | bad team by any stretch it means but |
| 14364s | they used to win a lot based on just |
| 14366s | being smarter and outmitting their |
| 14368s | opponents but I did see a question in |
| 14370s | twitch chat asking about what kingslayer |
| 14372s | is there's a number of different comp |
| 14374s | archetypes that sometimes get referred |
| 14376s | to kingsler being a very popular one and |
| 14378s | it's usually those uh large rapid heavy |
| 14382s | missile uh ships where you just want to |
| 14384s | just headshot something super important |
| 14387s | like for example the uh the logistic |
| 14390s | ship of the of the opponents so you |
| 14392s | basically force them to die by shooting |
| 14394s | them until they die and then you burn |
| 14396s | away reload your rapid Heavies and you |
| 14397s | come back in and then you just sort of |
| 14399s | control and kite away and do that damage |
| 14402s | one at a time bang bang bang so that's |
| 14404s | usually what we call kingslayer there's |
| 14406s | a bunch more archetypes that we talk |
| 14408s | about for days but we have time to |
| 14411s | because the teams have taken the field |
| 14413s | and they are ready to go so officer in |
| 14416s | mind versus Moss Piglet's preservation |
| 14418s | Society let's go to the arena with the |
| 14420s | casters fear and the Basilisk |
| 14429s | welcome back to the arena everyone as |
| 14431s | the house as a desk was saying moist |
| 14433s | piglet sorry most piglet preservation |
| 14435s | Society versus opposite our mind and |
| 14436s | funny that they were talking about |
| 14437s | kingslay because I think we've got two |
| 14439s | sort of pseudo King Slayers here |
| 14441s | um Moss piglet bringing this time over |
| 14442s | they seem to have learned from their |
| 14444s | mistakes earlier of having mixed guns on |
| 14445s | their battleships because they've got |
| 14446s | rapid Heavies on all three of these |
| 14447s | battleships here these are rapid heavy |
| 14448s | typhoon Fleet Praxis and typhoon but |
| 14451s | otherwise it looks like a very similar |
| 14452s | comp that we saw earlier in their match |
| 14454s | against hiddenly Village Etc |
| 14456s | yeah and of sound mind bringing the |
| 14459s | armor control they got a TFI the other |
| 14461s | TFI and a balgorn I'm taking a look at |
| 14465s | the belgorm model now is this a gun bell |
| 14467s | it's the real question it is so uh |
| 14470s | balgorn's got guns does a little bit |
| 14472s | more damage has a little bit less |
| 14473s | control we'll see how that goes as we |
| 14475s | get ready to go for this match |
| 14479s | yeah my only concern is of course in |
| 14481s | some matches the newts from the battle |
| 14482s | going are exceptionally powerful and in |
| 14484s | some matches they're uh they're not that |
| 14486s | great |
| 14487s | um so obviously against the missiles of |
| 14489s | these rapid heavy comp it's not going to |
| 14490s | be that effective so I expect to see |
| 14491s | these these newts dumped onto the lodgy |
| 14493s | frigates of the deacon and the failure |
| 14494s | of um of the Moss piglet Society but |
| 14498s | heavy newts obviously 24 second cycle |
| 14500s | time so if it's just you know if you're |
| 14503s | only under one or two newts it's fairly |
| 14504s | feasible for these frigates if they have |
| 14506s | a cat booster fitted to just wait for |
| 14508s | the new to cycle you see your cap at |
| 14509s | zero you inject 400 and you're good to |
| 14511s | go again |
| 14513s | foreign |
| 14516s | of course also brings the long range |
| 14518s | webs perhaps they can get something of |
| 14521s | value here but it looks like both these |
| 14523s | teams did not warp at zero which means |
| 14525s | that I gotta move towards each other if |
| 14527s | they want to make things happen we are |
| 14529s | now underway who moves first is the real |
| 14531s | question this vigil Fleet issue uh from |
| 14534s | Lost piglets uh preservation Society |
| 14536s | sexy care bear making his way over |
| 14538s | towards this valgorn and Tempest lead |
| 14539s | issue but he's breaking off as it's a |
| 14542s | little bit dangerous to get in close to |
| 14544s | this balgorn |
| 14546s | yeah I feel like off sound mind here |
| 14548s | should based on these two comps and the |
| 14550s | way it's lining up they should be |
| 14551s | feeling like they should they should be |
| 14552s | wanting to rush in here they want to |
| 14553s | tackle something down with these bow |
| 14554s | gone webs and try and get on top of |
| 14556s | something apply the new pressure that |
| 14557s | they do have from their tube from their |
| 14558s | three battleships in fact and just try |
| 14560s | and make their way through something |
| 14562s | obviously the rapid Heavies don't really |
| 14563s | care about being that range and I would |
| 14565s | have expected |
| 14566s | um the Moss piglet team to sort of try |
| 14568s | and kite around but in fact both these |
| 14570s | teams have taken quite a reserved stance |
| 14571s | or the Tempest Fleet of Ronnie is |
| 14572s | pushing in but the bowel gone is sitting |
| 14574s | back here and I feel like he should be |
| 14575s | on the front line as well |
| 14577s | yeah this Vengeance though pushing in |
| 14579s | towards this Magus was getting right |
| 14581s | past the vigil Fleet issues trying to |
| 14582s | screen him now but this Tempest Fleet |
| 14583s | issue moving in towards the rest of uh |
| 14586s | Moss piglet preservation society as the |
| 14588s | typhoon fleetest she was trying to smart |
| 14590s | off some smart bomb off some of these |
| 14592s | drones off the mega Stark hadron has |
| 14594s | survived rapid heavy reload cycle and no |
| 14596s | one has died quite yet and they're split |
| 14598s | damage across the board |
| 14600s | yeah that's the thing with these rapid |
| 14602s | heavy comps is you've got to choose your |
| 14603s | targets correctly you've got to pick |
| 14604s | something that you know you can break |
| 14605s | through that won't get out of range |
| 14607s | because obviously on some of these ships |
| 14608s | if you haven't got like Rigs and stuff |
| 14610s | you can only get maybe sort of 60 70 |
| 14611s | kilometers on the rapid Heavies and it's |
| 14613s | entirely feasible but something |
| 14614s | untackled can just burn away from you |
| 14615s | and obviously a bowel gone can be very |
| 14617s | very tanky it's pretty tough to break it |
| 14619s | in One Clip and once you finish a clip |
| 14620s | you've then got a long reload time so |
| 14622s | but as I say that the Magus just pops |
| 14625s | yeah going down to the drum blob across |
| 14628s | uh everything else that's coming at it |
| 14630s | this Harbinger taking damage right now |
| 14632s | from of sound mind they're ignoring |
| 14634s | these rapid heavy battleships at the |
| 14635s | moment because they treat trying to |
| 14637s | break uh the other battleships from of |
| 14640s | sound mind but they're able to wrap |
| 14641s | through that at the moment once again |
| 14642s | this battleground's been so tanky they |
| 14644s | swapped to The Tempest Fleet issue back |
| 14646s | to the balgorn and now back to the |
| 14647s | Tempest Fleet issue again |
| 14650s | yeah I mean this this uh piglet team |
| 14652s | that is staying quite compact here and |
| 14654s | I'm not I feel like these teams are sort |
| 14656s | of playing the inverse of what their win |
| 14658s | conditions are I mean the most piglet |
| 14660s | team have the range they should be able |
| 14662s | to kite around with these rapid heavy |
| 14663s | split up a little bit but instead it |
| 14665s | seems like um the of sound mind team are |
| 14667s | just sort of coming in one by one and |
| 14669s | that's not the strategy here they need |
| 14670s | to be coordinated it's only now the |
| 14671s | bowel gone arriving on the scene |
| 14673s | yeah and the simplest Fleet issue is |
| 14675s | Doven into lower armor because he |
| 14677s | survives a rapid heavy reload cycle |
| 14679s | who's gonna be able to get some uh reps |
| 14682s | back from this Deacon and Thalia but |
| 14684s | none of these rapid heavy battleships |
| 14685s | have been touched and he's not going to |
| 14686s | be able to uh live to win after this it |
| 14689s | looks like uh only one or two of these |
| 14691s | ships is actually hitting him at the |
| 14692s | moment |
| 14693s | um so it doesn't look like the reload |
| 14695s | Cycles are synced but now looks like the |
| 14697s | full damage is about to be applied |
| 14700s | yes it's not looking good here if this |
| 14702s | Tempest Fleet goes down that's a |
| 14703s | significant chunk of their damage and I |
| 14705s | keep saying it this Battleground just |
| 14706s | needs to charge in there the Deacon and |
| 14707s | Thalia are sitting relatively unmolested |
| 14709s | here he needs to just get in and stick |
| 14710s | those newts on on those those Deacon and |
| 14712s | failure I mean they're not doing |
| 14713s | anything on anything else so |
| 14715s | he needs to just make progress here he |
| 14717s | should be the front line for his team |
| 14718s | he's got the range webbed he's got the |
| 14719s | news it's important it's imperative that |
| 14721s | he gets the value for those points |
| 14722s | balgon was it 23 points expensive |
| 14725s | investment you need to make use of it |
| 14726s | and that salary does go down at the same |
| 14727s | time as the Sentinel from um of sound |
| 14729s | mind |
| 14731s | yeah tennis leadership dipping into very |
| 14733s | low structure at the moment but he's |
| 14735s | weathering the Storm at the moment as |
| 14737s | his heartbringer seeps uh getting some |
| 14739s | damage from the rest of of sound mind |
| 14741s | he's now dipping into structure himself |
| 14743s | The Tempest Fleet issue though one more |
| 14745s | rapid heavy cycle is enough to kill him |
| 14748s | he's dipping ever so slowly in towards |
| 14752s | his death |
| 14754s | this deacon now Julius modern his lodgy |
| 14756s | partner's dead so I don't think he's |
| 14757s | gonna last long as well it's only going |
| 14758s | to be Reggie but logic Bots that are |
| 14759s | able to keep him up but he's got a swarm |
| 14762s | of bread as well yeah that's that's good |
| 14767s | this OG Navy in a half armor as well |
| 14769s | he's fairly tanky for a cruiser but |
| 14770s | remember all three of these battleships |
| 14772s | are alive and now they're on to the |
| 14773s | typhoon Fleet issue uh with these rapid |
| 14775s | heavy missile launchers we'll see if |
| 14777s | they're gonna be able to take him down |
| 14779s | once again they still have both of their |
| 14781s | laundry frigates alive but dual laundry |
| 14782s | freaks does not outpace three sets of |
| 14785s | Rapid heavy missiles in the long run |
| 14787s | we're gonna see if they can get this |
| 14788s | typhoon Fleet out of uh the way does |
| 14791s | look like he's ancillary fit though as |
| 14793s | he did get quite a big rep there |
| 14796s | I mean the Deacon goes down now they've |
| 14797s | lost all logic frigates I feel like this |
| 14799s | is swinging towards of sound mind ever |
| 14801s | so slightly I mean those three |
| 14802s | battleships won't be affected by the |
| 14803s | newts anymore but I mean against the |
| 14805s | lodgy frigates they haven't got any real |
| 14806s | control left depending down as long as |
| 14808s | this visual Fleet issue dies the Deacon |
| 14810s | and Thalia should be able to sort of |
| 14811s | Coast around fairly safely outside of |
| 14813s | web range outside of tackle range and |
| 14814s | just keep pumping these reps into their |
| 14816s | um you know their battleships |
| 14818s | I may be issued diving very low as well |
| 14821s | the vigil Fleet issue gets deleted from |
| 14823s | the map and it looks like most |
| 14824s | particular preservation Society they're |
| 14826s | gonna lose all their low end and have no |
| 14828s | way out of this one they lost the OG |
| 14831s | Navy the jackdaw the armored actor the |
| 14833s | last member of their team alive as the |
| 14837s | battleships remain untouched but they |
| 14839s | just can't get any kills at the moment |
| 14840s | this Magus uh being taken down pretty |
| 14843s | low I believe it's just the jacket on |
| 14845s | top of him at the moment as a type |
| 14846s | inflate issue is being hit by these |
| 14848s | rapid Heavies but on the same time more |
| 14850s | power of the typhoon Fleet is now being |
| 14852s | taken down by the counter-type inflate |
| 14855s | of of sound mind and this gun balgorn |
| 14857s | he's dipping an armor right now |
| 14860s | yeah the thing as I said at the start of |
| 14862s | the match I mean these this piglet team |
| 14864s | is having difficulty breaking these |
| 14865s | battleships and of course once you hit |
| 14866s | reload the logic frigates can just wrap |
| 14868s | them straight back up again if they |
| 14870s | can't kill him in one clip then it's |
| 14872s | very very difficult to deal with them |
| 14873s | and they've so far been unable to do so |
| 14874s | at the start of the match they haven't |
| 14876s | got much chance about getting better |
| 14877s | with just three three ships left as time |
| 14879s | goes on it's swinging more and more |
| 14880s | against them as more power is going to |
| 14882s | go down first of these two typhoon Fleet |
| 14884s | issues |
| 14886s | do enough damage to deal uh with this |
| 14889s | other TFI there's a typhoon and peraxis |
| 14892s | left but two sets of Rapid heavies |
| 14895s | worse than three and the three is not |
| 14896s | enough to kill ranamar who keeps repping |
| 14899s | through the damage |
| 14901s | nor power into structure now he's about |
| 14904s | to go down and this match is over |
| 14908s | yeah it's it's one of those matches |
| 14910s | where the target calling I think the |
| 14912s | choice to get rid of the logic frigates |
| 14914s | has really helped them out here once |
| 14915s | lodgy frigates are gone obviously the |
| 14917s | longer match goes the more DPS you're |
| 14919s | able to clear the power of those reps |
| 14921s | compared to the incoming damage becomes |
| 14922s | a greater and greater proportion until |
| 14923s | eventually you reach a point where they |
| 14925s | just can't break through the Reps |
| 14927s | um at all and at that point it's just |
| 14929s | sort of the death knell for your match |
| 14930s | because obviously if you can't kill |
| 14931s | anything the opponent's still doing |
| 14933s | their thing they're still making |
| 14934s | progress as that type of inflate does |
| 14935s | finally go down and you're just sort of |
| 14937s | stuck stalling and you know it's it can |
| 14939s | be difficult to judge the right time to |
| 14941s | take them out a lot of teams we see |
| 14942s | don't take them out immediately |
| 14944s | um but they do sort of take them out in |
| 14945s | the mid game when they're when they |
| 14946s | present like an opportune chance to to |
| 14948s | get rid of them and they just sort of |
| 14949s | neglected them a little bit here and |
| 14950s | obviously now at this point in the match |
| 14951s | it's too little too late they can't get |
| 14952s | rid of them at all |
| 14955s | nope they can not I mean rapid Heavies |
| 14957s | don't really apply to 10mm logging |
| 14959s | freaks all that well their low end is |
| 14962s | dead modern Inferno the next primary |
| 14965s | from of sound mind as they are just |
| 14968s | waiting for their inevitable deaths are |
| 14970s | we gonna see some mjd plays here uh |
| 14973s | perhaps because this is an elimination |
| 14974s | match I want to see uh who gets the best |
| 14976s | boundary if they're made uh able to do |
| 14979s | that |
| 14981s | I mean we saw goonestorm Captain Azure |
| 14983s | and Argent come up with a new record |
| 14984s | earlier in the day I I mean I didn't |
| 14987s | think the old record would ever be |
| 14988s | broken to be honest because it doesn't I |
| 14990s | mean logically it doesn't really make |
| 14991s | sense for it to be broken if the beacons |
| 14993s | are 88 from the center and it jumps to |
| 14994s | 100. how do you get to 230 I don't know |
| 14998s | math doesn't make sense to me anyway |
| 15000s | um what do you think |
| 15003s | could have happened differently in this |
| 15004s | match for piglets do you think |
| 15006s | what what strategy would you would you |
| 15008s | have suggested they've gone for |
| 15010s | I mean better Target calling perhaps uh |
| 15013s | they want for a typhoon Fleet issue off |
| 15015s | the start there uh and another thing to |
| 15018s | note is that the rapid Heavies of a |
| 15019s | Praxis and a typhoon aren't going to |
| 15021s | sink because they have different bonuses |
| 15022s | one of them I believe the typhoon uh |
| 15024s | Fleet and the typhoon have a uh write a |
| 15027s | fire bonus whereas the Praxis I believe |
| 15029s | has a damage bonus I might be wrong on |
| 15032s | that one |
| 15033s | um either way you're not able to sing |
| 15035s | your rabbit Heavies you're not able to |
| 15036s | actually burst through as effectively as |
| 15038s | if you had three of the ships with the |
| 15039s | exact same cycle time on uh those rapid |
| 15042s | heavy missile launchers on top of that I |
| 15045s | just don't think they should have gone |
| 15046s | for a battleship maybe they should have |
| 15047s | tried to go for something lower and |
| 15049s | something that was going to give their |
| 15050s | low end some trouble before they'd moved |
| 15052s | on to this type input issue uh hopefully |
| 15054s | their loan could have taken out the |
| 15055s | Deacon anthalia and then they could have |
| 15057s | made things a little bit easier for them |
| 15060s | yeah I actually completely agree with |
| 15062s | that take I think um a lot of teams |
| 15064s | might look at the sort of DPS bonus on a |
| 15066s | rapid heavy boat and go you know it's |
| 15067s | about the same as a as a damage bonus |
| 15069s | boat on a rate of fire bonus boat but |
| 15071s | the reality is you just get more damage |
| 15073s | out of a clip and that's the that's the |
| 15074s | most important thing is being able to |
| 15076s | kill a target from 100 to zero within |
| 15078s | one clip and if you're just churning |
| 15080s | through your missiles and each missile |
| 15081s | is less effective and you can't clip |
| 15082s | something as a result because I believe |
| 15084s | the typhoon fleet has 37 damage bonus |
| 15087s | compared to the regular typhoon yeah |
| 15088s | something like that I'm sorry if you |
| 15090s | have the rate fire the regular typhoon |
| 15092s | has the damage yeah points I'm trying to |
| 15095s | make it it's the same it's the same |
| 15098s | yeah so much |
| 15100s | and yeah the practice of Abu Waheed is |
| 15103s | going to go down and that's going to |
| 15104s | Signal the end of moist I keep saying |
| 15105s | moist piglet Moss piglet |
| 15108s | I'm sorry most piglets I keep saying |
| 15109s | moist it's going to Signal the end of |
| 15111s | their chances of getting until 2018 and |
| 15113s | with that we're going to send it back to |
| 15114s | the studio |
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| 15215s | mined they're proving that they are of |
| 15218s | certain mind and uh Moss slash moist |
| 15222s | friglet piglet preservation Society |
| 15224s | depending on your perspective |
| 15226s | unfortunately exiting the uh the |
| 15229s | Minotaur trials here today that is it |
| 15231s | for them the Basilisk will be relieved |
| 15233s | he doesn't have to try and pronounce |
| 15234s | that name any further now he understands |
| 15237s | what we have to go through we have to |
| 15239s | pronounce his alliance's silly name so |
| 15241s | hopefully yeah he feels bad about |
| 15243s | himself now |
| 15244s | um so with that the uh I think it's the |
| 15247s | crystal we were just on yeah Crystal B |
| 15249s | uh we have that now set so hidden leaf |
| 15253s | hidden Leaf Village |
| 15256s | um Etc as it was called by |
| 15259s | um basilisk who's a member take the |
| 15261s | winning spot also main take that |
| 15264s | runner-up spot |
| 15266s | um and then they will be going up |
| 15267s | against because of Pizza Time diplomacy |
| 15269s | as the winner of crucial a and snuffner |
| 15271s | as uh runner-up of |
| 15274s | hey so um I wanted to ask you about |
| 15277s | pirate about the Sentinel we saw that uh |
| 15281s | officer man brought a comp that had a |
| 15283s | very uh wide control bar it was maxed |
| 15285s | out as much control as uh as the UI |
| 15288s | could display and a lot of that clearly |
| 15290s | coming from that Sentinel why is that |
| 15292s | such a important ship here |
| 15296s | uh Sentinels like it's it's a miniature |
| 15298s | curse right |
| 15299s | um it has bonus Newt range bonus Newt |
| 15303s | amount bonus tracking disrupter range |
| 15305s | and bonus guidance disruptor range so in |
| 15308s | a very very small you know couple Point |
| 15310s | package it is actually one of the most |
| 15312s | powerful control ships in the game uh |
| 15315s | interestingly enough it actually pretty |
| 15317s | much hard counters Logistics frigates if |
| 15319s | you are able to get it on top of a |
| 15321s | logistics version so uh just because the |
| 15324s | newts cycle so fast and they they suck |
| 15326s | so hard for how small they are they like |
| 15329s | if you can actually Newt down Logistics |
| 15331s | with it they're pretty much done um |
| 15333s | because they cycle like every six |
| 15334s | seconds or so and it it's so hard to |
| 15337s | keep your cat versus them |
| 15341s | yeah now moderator |
| 15343s | um in terms of one of the things we had |
| 15345s | the uh the casters in that last match |
| 15347s | talking about was Target selection uh |
| 15349s | and execution in the actual match itself |
| 15353s | um as someone who's been in uh you know |
| 15354s | High tier matches what's the kind of the |
| 15357s | thought process when you're team more |
| 15359s | upsend like you don't know what's |
| 15360s | happening you've initiative work to the |
| 15362s | arena everyone's spamming D scan and |
| 15364s | starting to call out the ships that they |
| 15366s | see on D scan like when do you start |
| 15368s | theorizing what you're going to do and |
| 15370s | like how does that process really work |
| 15372s | well I mean ideally that process began |
| 15377s | um in scrims about |
| 15379s | you know a week or two weeks ago when |
| 15381s | you practice against the setup or a very |
| 15383s | similar setup to what you're seeing and |
| 15386s | then you kind of understand what your |
| 15387s | win conditions are what your loss |
| 15389s | conditions are and then you get ready |
| 15391s | for that setup |
| 15392s | um it can be very daunting when you get |
| 15395s | on the arena and you're like oh crap I |
| 15398s | have never seen this setup |
| 15400s | um what do you do so the first thing you |
| 15402s | do is you look at the guns of these |
| 15404s | ships right you confirm okay do these |
| 15407s | three battleships that we're seeing do |
| 15409s | they actually all have rapid Heavies do |
| 15410s | they have Crews do they have torpedo and |
| 15413s | depending on what they have you |
| 15414s | formulate a strategy same thing or |
| 15417s | for example like those Amar uh boats do |
| 15421s | you say the harbinger it's got pulses |
| 15422s | does it have beans |
| 15424s | um do you decide to you know play in |
| 15426s | close do you play Far Away |
| 15428s | um and that's kind of how you formulate |
| 15431s | your game plan from there knowing what |
| 15433s | your capabilities are what their |
| 15435s | capabilities are |
| 15437s | yeah the worst thing is warping in and |
| 15440s | seeing something that you just did not |
| 15441s | expect and you're not really sure how |
| 15443s | they're going to play it because then |
| 15445s | you have to literally try and come up |
| 15446s | with your strategy on the Fly and that |
| 15449s | can be really a daunting thing as you |
| 15451s | say but uh nothing better than warping |
| 15454s | in with a comp you think can control a |
| 15457s | specific type of comp and then they've |
| 15459s | brought exactly what you think they were |
| 15461s | going to bring those are situations |
| 15463s | where you feel very confident going into |
| 15465s | the matches obviously you still have to |
| 15467s | execute |
| 15468s | um that in theory like it's all nice and |
| 15470s | nice to win in theory you have to win in |
| 15473s | practice as well so executions could |
| 15475s | sometimes be where we see these teams |
| 15477s | who have the uh the rock to someone |
| 15479s | else's scissors but then it turns out |
| 15482s | that that rock was made of paper |
| 15484s | so let's look at our last uh group for |
| 15487s | the day the veracular tribe |
| 15490s | um this is this one still needs to be |
| 15493s | set I believe uh so there's I don't know |
| 15495s | if there's any here we go so we can |
| 15497s | throw up on the screen |
| 15500s | so briefly disappeared again |
| 15507s | it is right I've been told it is right |
| 15509s | here we are so rules among strangers are |
| 15511s | sitting at the top uh over laser Hawks |
| 15514s | and Singularity Syndicate breaking that |
| 15516s | tiebreaker with that rust score of 11 to |
| 15518s | four |
| 15520s | um and in group BX is sitting with two |
| 15522s | wins uh over at the initiative in Shadow |
| 15525s | Patel both sitting at zero so |
| 15527s | um for Singularity Syndicate now what |
| 15529s | they need to do is win uh their match uh |
| 15533s | nope they can't do that they have no |
| 15534s | matches they're done |
| 15535s | um the next match is a Wheels among |
| 15537s | stranger laser Hawks initiative and |
| 15538s | Shadow cartel so the initiative and |
| 15541s | Shadow cartel that one's an interesting |
| 15543s | one both of those have the opportunity |
| 15545s | to still retain a spot in the alliance |
| 15549s | tournament trials by simply winning |
| 15551s | their match laser Hawks in a pretty |
| 15553s | solid position at this point to Simply |
| 15555s | uh win maybe and then try and get one up |
| 15558s | on rules among strangers because they're |
| 15560s | both sitting at one and one so uh |
| 15563s | whoever wins here will take the top spot |
| 15565s | whoever loses will take the middle spot |
| 15567s | neither of them are going to be |
| 15568s | eliminated so comfortable positions for |
| 15571s | each of them one thing to look for |
| 15574s | um would be uh who's gonna maintain and |
| 15577s | the initiative because as mentioned that |
| 15578s | is the elimination match |
| 15581s | let's look at our next match which is |
| 15583s | rules amongst Rangers versus laser Hawks |
| 15584s | and take a look at the bands and see |
| 15586s | what these teams uh are theorizing their |
| 15588s | opponents might want to bring so let's |
| 15591s | talks Banning out that Vindicator bar |
| 15592s | guest and balgorn three very common |
| 15594s | bands now at this point we've been doing |
| 15596s | this for two days everyone's Banning the |
| 15598s | battle Garden that seems to be the |
| 15599s | common theme |
| 15600s | and rules among strangers Banning Out |
| 15602s | The Vindicator the Ishtar and the curse |
| 15605s | Ishtar perhaps a bit more of an unusual |
| 15608s | band The Curse we've seen a few of those |
| 15609s | but what do you think about this Ishtar |
| 15612s | all right |
| 15613s | so Banning an Ishtar makes it pretty |
| 15616s | tough to bring drones |
| 15618s | um I would say that EOS is a better band |
| 15620s | if you're trying to prevent drones but |
| 15622s | of the two ships like the Ishtar is the |
| 15624s | other really important one so I think |
| 15627s | the Wolves has definitely they've seen |
| 15629s | drones they don't want to fight them and |
| 15630s | in the Ishtar out uh it's a pretty solid |
| 15633s | band definitely definitely a good way to |
| 15635s | stop having to deal with drones because |
| 15636s | there's not really a lot of ships that |
| 15637s | are anywhere near as good as the Ishtar |
| 15639s | are at drone comps so uh pretty smart on |
| 15642s | their end if they don't want to see |
| 15643s | drones |
| 15644s | if they do want to see drones then I'm |
| 15646s | not really sure what's going on with |
| 15647s | that |
| 15649s | there you go so it's time to find out |
| 15651s | who will win between laser Hawks and |
| 15654s | wolves amongst strangers as we hand over |
| 15658s | to the arena with ish and Alec |
| 15674s | hello and welcome we have wolves among |
| 15676s | strangers here with a pretty classic |
| 15677s | mimitar Rush team with some damp support |
| 15680s | in the low end |
| 15682s | ish what do we have from laser Hawks |
| 15686s | laser Hawks has opted to bring a slept |
| 15688s | near Rush here pretty classic setup now |
| 15690s | an interesting little thing they sort of |
| 15692s | thrown to the side there is a saber so |
| 15694s | we're going to see some wobbling I think |
| 15695s | the challenge for them will be getting |
| 15697s | some good positioning challenge with |
| 15699s | wubble of horses wubble wubbles all so |
| 15701s | the slippers do not want to get caught |
| 15703s | in there and wobble but it may actually |
| 15705s | uh prove to deter wolves from their own |
| 15708s | rush if they can get a good position on |
| 15710s | it or perhaps catch out some targets a |
| 15712s | little later in the match we'll see how |
| 15713s | that gets employed with the double |
| 15715s | lokies here coming out of laser Hawks |
| 15717s | there is a lot of early control saber |
| 15719s | aside |
| 15721s | yep we'll see whether the hurricane |
| 15723s | Fleet issues were worth the investment |
| 15725s | on the particles among strangers because |
| 15726s | they put a ton of points into that |
| 15728s | points which laser Hawks spent on an |
| 15730s | additional Loki and a pair of Scythe |
| 15732s | Fleet issues and here we go laser Hawks |
| 15735s | charging in |
| 15737s | they definitely seem to have the |
| 15739s | initiative whereas those among strangers |
| 15740s | look like they began to kite initially |
| 15742s | then thought better of it now they're |
| 15744s | racing in as well |
| 15746s | yeah I think that might be a bit of a |
| 15748s | misplay there I think you really just |
| 15750s | with a slap rush you basically just won |
| 15752s | a slap Rush unless there's something |
| 15753s | really exceptional going on especially |
| 15755s | when you're going into a mirror you know |
| 15756s | if you assume these slept fits are at |
| 15758s | least somewhat similar some kind of |
| 15760s | relevancy uh then it's really about who |
| 15762s | can get that damage applied earliest and |
| 15764s | strongest and we're seeing uh cook and |
| 15766s | the slept near and Laser Hawks going |
| 15768s | down so a really good Focus out uh going |
| 15771s | out there from wolves to get that first |
| 15773s | kill of the match done but we're gonna |
| 15775s | see something seemed like they had a |
| 15778s | sorry |
| 15780s | sorry that was here wolves HFI uh take |
| 15784s | the fall for it but we're now one down |
| 15786s | one slap one HFI so Wolf's still up a |
| 15788s | bit on this |
| 15790s | yeah both teams look like they had a bit |
| 15792s | of uh indecisiveness in terms of Target |
| 15795s | calling damage spread among the comps |
| 15797s | but then what was like strangers got |
| 15799s | themselves on the same page first but |
| 15802s | laser Hawks brought down the bigger |
| 15804s | Target and it looks like they're gonna |
| 15805s | bring this hurricane Fleet issue down as |
| 15807s | well he's not receiving that many reps |
| 15809s | and he drops meanwhile the sleffner of |
| 15811s | our tennis to Lander is local ancillary |
| 15814s | Shield booster doing a ton of work here |
| 15816s | extending his life on the battlefield |
| 15819s | foreign |
| 15821s | yeah he's definitely looking to get a |
| 15823s | little bit of preservation out of that |
| 15824s | they do lose a stabber in the mix uh and |
| 15826s | our tennis will not be able to quite get |
| 15828s | the Reps up to sustain |
| 15830s | and uh we're we're seeing wolves start |
| 15832s | to fall pretty rapidly here I would not |
| 15835s | say all hope is lost there is still a |
| 15837s | near on field but uh it's going to |
| 15840s | be a bit tricky here in light of the |
| 15842s | fact that there are two Scythe fleets to |
| 15844s | uh pump out some damage and they've got |
| 15846s | quite a bit of Mobility they can |
| 15847s | possibly gain |
| 15849s | but with the uh like the one potential |
| 15851s | Advantage here is the |
| 15853s | with the sleptors down laser Hawks |
| 15856s | likely does not have links |
| 15858s | so as the match extends that could be a |
| 15861s | slight Advantage for wolves among |
| 15863s | strangers but they need to have enough |
| 15864s | of a team left on the field to take |
| 15866s | advantage of it and that is proving to |
| 15868s | be a challenge as they're beginning to |
| 15869s | lose their low end here now they will |
| 15871s | trade for this slight Fleet issue but |
| 15873s | that is it's hard to say this is a race |
| 15875s | and they're starting to fall behind |
| 15879s | indeed in the definitely on a timer here |
| 15881s | we are seeing Bobby in the slept near |
| 15884s | he's starting to Bear Down on the Loki I |
| 15886s | think he just doesn't want to be held |
| 15887s | back in his hopes of perhaps getting |
| 15889s | some other work done later |
| 15891s | but it's going to be difficult to uh to |
| 15894s | wear down probably to wear down major |
| 15897s | targets and get those critical points |
| 15899s | and in time but laser Hawks do lose |
| 15901s | another SFI |
| 15904s | and we see the symmetology this could be |
| 15906s | a huge point the Scimitar dropping low |
| 15908s | this is a chance yeah the roles among |
| 15911s | strangers is counterintuitive as as it |
| 15913s | might sound a chance for them to come |
| 15914s | back if they can trade something for it |
| 15916s | but it just drops with absolutely no |
| 15918s | answer just a bit of Chip damage really |
| 15921s | on the Loki of six Vinatieri he's not |
| 15926s | dropping very rapidly at all his tank |
| 15928s | actually holding pretty well meanwhile |
| 15930s | Victor Maitland's low on the Wolves |
| 15933s | among stranger side is taking |
| 15934s | significant damage uh going down to half |
| 15938s | Shields lowering at a very rapid steady |
| 15940s | pace |
| 15942s | indeed we've been seeing this come out I |
| 15944s | think in quite a few matches now where |
| 15945s | Loki's have been present where in the |
| 15947s | latter part of the match especially but |
| 15949s | perhaps all throughout the tankiness of |
| 15951s | the Loki is being utilized to sort of |
| 15952s | push the enemy team and sometimes maybe |
| 15954s | sort of offer up this GC Target well I |
| 15956s | don't want this webs on field anymore |
| 15958s | but it takes a while to get these Loki's |
| 15960s | down we've seen consistently these |
| 15962s | Loki's uh proving pretty tanky as their |
| 15964s | standard fit |
| 15965s | amongst these teams and it doesn't look |
| 15967s | like we have a win condition left for |
| 15969s | our woven friends they only have the |
| 15972s | slept near left for damage Mollison |
| 15973s | carries are not really going to be able |
| 15975s | to do a lot to damp out any damage here |
| 15977s | because laser Hawks has gathered around |
| 15979s | the fire of the dying slept near and |
| 15982s | we'll be able to take their win here |
| 15984s | yeah Wolfgang stranger it looks like |
| 15986s | they hedge their bets a bit with these |
| 15988s | damp ships trying to uh Force other |
| 15991s | teams to come into them if they were |
| 15992s | going to pull away but that cost |
| 15994s | precious points for the actual charging |
| 15997s | in part of the fight which is what they |
| 15998s | needed here they just went up against a |
| 16000s | major match that was just that much |
| 16002s | better |
| 16004s | I agree and I still hold that not having |
| 16006s | that early initiative and not charging |
| 16007s | in quite as strong custom despite being |
| 16010s | able to sink the first ship it cost them |
| 16012s | some position throughout the fight and |
| 16014s | that position proves critical when |
| 16015s | you're going up against a rush mirror |
| 16017s | like that and I think the combination of |
| 16020s | position plus the control that was able |
| 16021s | to be exerted out from laser Hawks |
| 16023s | proved to be a bit fatal and last ship's |
| 16026s | going down here now in the former |
| 16027s | carries and mullets just eating it as |
| 16030s | laser Hawks takes this win |
| 16032s | certainly not a clean sweep a pretty |
| 16034s | bloody battle but a critical mass of |
| 16037s | laser Hawk ships left and they were able |
| 16039s | to get the work done |
| 16043s | [Music] |
| 16058s | something stupid I think it's all it's |
| 16062s | Alton like uh F4 I think just going in |
| 16065s | steep so what's gonna happen here is |
| 16068s | Derek is going to undock the Titan and |
| 16071s | Bridge us |
| 16077s | foreign |
| 16088s | there are a lot of fun dice games but |
| 16090s | rolling the number you need to win is |
| 16092s | pure luck or is it |
| 16094s | [Music] |
| 16104s | laser Hawks taking the W there so they |
| 16108s | will go top of their tribal group |
| 16111s | meaning that Wills amongst strangers |
| 16113s | will take the runner-up position and be |
| 16115s | the first to face Exodus next week when |
| 16119s | they return |
| 16121s | um in terms of who gets knocked out is |
| 16123s | singularity Syndicate and we've yet to |
| 16125s | find out between initiative and Shadow |
| 16127s | cartel |
| 16129s | um that match had quite a quite a number |
| 16131s | of things to do to discuss Blackboard |
| 16134s | Pirates |
| 16135s | um what do damps do in an Eve online |
| 16140s | uh it depends on what script you loaded |
| 16144s | as we are able to use scripts nowadays |
| 16145s | but you can either make it so someone |
| 16148s | can lock their lock range is not |
| 16151s | enjoyable you can make it quite short or |
| 16153s | you can make it so they take a very long |
| 16155s | time to lock generally I would expect |
| 16158s | people in the at to be using the lock |
| 16161s | range script which means you can I |
| 16163s | believe that like one or two dams can |
| 16165s | bring a logic forget down to like six or |
| 16167s | seven kilometer lock range at most which |
| 16169s | is not a particularly large number |
| 16172s | uh |
| 16173s | but they're pretty powerful if used in |
| 16175s | the correct comp |
| 16179s | so you say used in the correct comp |
| 16182s | um would for example a mimitar rush comp |
| 16185s | be type of comp you would expect to see |
| 16187s | these damps in |
| 16190s | uh probably not I |
| 16193s | if you think about what you're trying to |
| 16195s | do in a Minotaur Rush right is you're |
| 16197s | trying to get as close to the enemy as |
| 16198s | possible and then do lots and lots of |
| 16200s | damage to them if you're using your |
| 16202s | damps on them but you're also putting |
| 16205s | your ships on top of their ships it |
| 16207s | doesn't really work as well the only |
| 16209s | reason why I could see bringing them is |
| 16212s | if you expect to like them to maybe have |
| 16216s | their Logistics farther away from your |
| 16218s | ships but at the end of the day the |
| 16220s | thing that makes Minotaur Rush strong is |
| 16221s | its massive DPS like it's unrepable |
| 16224s | amounts yes not that you're able to like |
| 16226s | out position somebody outplay them force |
| 16230s | them into doing something you don't want |
| 16231s | to do |
| 16233s | yeah we also saw |
| 16235s | um some interesting Target calling |
| 16237s | decisions there so wolves among |
| 16239s | strangers uh choosing to shoot the slept |
| 16241s | nearest moderator whereas laser Hawks |
| 16243s | going for the fleet hurricanes what do |
| 16244s | you think of that decision |
| 16251s | you can't hear you moderator |
| 16254s | oh no we got muterated it happened no |
| 16257s | unfortunately |
| 16259s | um it didn't really pan out for wolves |
| 16261s | uh we thought initially that you know |
| 16264s | killing slept nears before laser Hawks |
| 16266s | could kill hurricanes they might have |
| 16267s | been |
| 16269s | um leading but what ended up happening |
| 16271s | is that |
| 16273s | um as it turns out laser hawks just had |
| 16277s | way more damage and way more going for |
| 16279s | the movie to see that the attack bar was |
| 16281s | constantly in laser Hawk's favor |
| 16283s | um when you bring you know two Loki's |
| 16286s | two Fleet size and then you have it |
| 16288s | supported by |
| 16289s | um spiteful you know saber and you're |
| 16293s | only bringing you know your scalpel and |
| 16295s | a burst and the other side brings a |
| 16297s | scimitar well that's 10 more points I |
| 16299s | can bring for damage and on top of that |
| 16301s | you have wolves bringing |
| 16304s | um carries and mullets so essentially |
| 16305s | they were like 18 points down on damage |
| 16307s | and two comps that essentially are just |
| 16310s | gonna go you know |
| 16311s | face to face and that's a command ship |
| 16313s | or the points right there |
| 16315s | um In the End Laser Hawks was able to |
| 16317s | leverage the fact that wolves didn't |
| 16319s | kill their Fleet size didn't handle |
| 16322s | their smaller support and you know chew |
| 16325s | through the Wolves team faster than |
| 16326s | wolves could do the same |
| 16329s | do you think there was a a win condition |
| 16331s | for the Wolves team in that instance |
| 16334s | with what they brought against laser |
| 16336s | Hawks moderator |
| 16340s | um probably trying to kill the fleet |
| 16343s | Feist trying to kill |
| 16345s | um |
| 16346s | a Loki's first and then dealing with the |
| 16349s | slept nears last of all |
| 16351s | um you have to realize that when there's |
| 16354s | a scalpel and a burst you're not going |
| 16356s | to have the strongest of reps and slept |
| 16359s | nears with their asbs are not going to |
| 16363s | be your you know Target of choice I |
| 16366s | understand you want to get rid of links |
| 16368s | but |
| 16369s | um you need to deal with the ships that |
| 16371s | are going to do |
| 16372s | um equivalent damage or close to a slap |
| 16374s | near but are gonna have maybe a third or |
| 16377s | a fourth of the tank |
| 16380s | and one other thing that we we saw |
| 16383s | potentially to be deployed in that match |
| 16385s | uh twitch chat called it out uh we |
| 16388s | called it out but it didn't happen |
| 16389s | Blackboard pirate what is he wobble and |
| 16392s | why might we see them deployed uh in an |
| 16394s | alliance tournament match |
| 16397s | so the uh |
| 16399s | the interdictors can Now launch a stasis |
| 16401s | webifying bubble which is called a |
| 16404s | Wubble because |
| 16406s | two syllables as opposed to seven or |
| 16408s | eight twelve I'm not really great at |
| 16410s | math sometimes uh but it does slow |
| 16413s | everybody down within a pretty large |
| 16415s | area I think we've seen them once or |
| 16418s | twice I believe there was a game where a |
| 16420s | fly catcher actually used one really |
| 16421s | really well and like webbed the entire |
| 16424s | fleet down and then |
| 16425s | survived with like 30 structure but |
| 16428s | they're very very good if you use them |
| 16430s | correctly now the issue with them is it |
| 16432s | does web both yourself and the |
| 16434s | opponent's Fleet so everybody involved |
| 16437s | gets slowed down uh I think it was a |
| 16439s | really cool idea though on laser Hawks |
| 16440s | to bring one if somebody had maybe |
| 16442s | brought a kiting setup or anything else |
| 16443s | you can just you know run your dictator |
| 16445s | in web everybody down maybe the doctor |
| 16447s | lives maybe a dozen but then the rest of |
| 16449s | your Minotaur Rush gets on top of it so |
| 16452s | um as a utility ship that you're only |
| 16453s | going to spend a couple points on this |
| 16455s | is actually a pretty good idea I think I |
| 16456s | would rather see that than like it |
| 16457s | carries |
| 16460s | yeah I think I agree with you |
| 16462s | um laser Hawks comp was just seemed a |
| 16464s | little bit more Point efficient I guess |
| 16466s | we can say you know we talked about how |
| 16468s | some of those points there the carries |
| 16470s | and the most eight points essentially |
| 16472s | being semi-useless uh or not as |
| 16474s | efficient as we would hope for in a |
| 16477s | match whereas if uh you know you Fleet |
| 16480s | size is seven points for example you |
| 16481s | could have brought one Fleet site and |
| 16483s | then one single point ship like a burst |
| 16485s | just to you know hang out and play uh |
| 16488s | but they they didn't and unfortunately |
| 16490s | for them uh yeah that's it but they're |
| 16492s | not out of the the tournament of course |
| 16493s | they are simply the runners-up for their |
| 16496s | tribe so we will see them again next |
| 16498s | week |
| 16499s | um and of course like all the teams we |
| 16502s | wish them well uh so let's look forward |
| 16504s | to our next and final match of the day |
| 16509s | um which is going to be between |
| 16510s | initiative and Shadow cartel |
| 16513s | the initiative Banning the balgorn as is |
| 16516s | now tradition and the Nighthawk and I |
| 16519s | can tell Banning The Gila and the Ishtar |
| 16520s | so sharakatau really saying we don't |
| 16522s | want to see this drone kite comp uh but |
| 16525s | of course leaving that EOS moderator do |
| 16529s | you what do you think about these bands |
| 16530s | here |
| 16532s | um Sherlock Hotel clearly has faced uh |
| 16535s | shield and armor drones and |
| 16539s | um they don't like either of them um |
| 16541s | like Bart was saying |
| 16543s | um earlier we normally see the EOS be a |
| 16546s | little bit more effective than |
| 16548s | um |
| 16549s | you know an Ishtar ban uh but you could |
| 16552s | kind of sort of a little bit ish make |
| 16555s | the Ishtar |
| 16556s | um in a shield drone setup |
| 16559s | um whereas the EOC would never see in a |
| 16562s | shield drone setup or almost never and |
| 16565s | kind of the Ishtar and the Gila tries to |
| 16567s | cover a little bit more space between |
| 16569s | shield and armor I don't necessarily |
| 16570s | like the bands the most but I understand |
| 16572s | what they're trying to do with it |
| 16576s | awesome so we'll see that match in about |
| 16578s | five minutes and it is an elimination |
| 16579s | match between Shadow cartel and the |
| 16581s | initiative to find out who is going home |
| 16583s | from Alliance tournament 18. speaking of |
| 16585s | Alliance tournament 18 this is the |
| 16587s | feeder trials for the 18th Alliance |
| 16590s | tournament uh there has been 17 up till |
| 16593s | now this is the start of the 18th the |
| 16594s | alliance tournament is now old enough to |
| 16596s | go to a pub in the UK and buy a beer |
| 16598s | it's gonna have to wait until last |
| 16600s | minute 21 in America of course but you |
| 16602s | know I'm sure that'll come up soon |
| 16603s | enough this particular Alliance |
| 16605s | tournament is sponsored by the Min mitar |
| 16607s | Republic and that means that mimitar |
| 16609s | republic ships so just you know the |
| 16611s | regular old Minotaur ships and of course |
| 16613s | Fleet ships are pointed down one that |
| 16616s | means they cost one point less than what |
| 16618s | they would normally cost the price ships |
| 16620s | for Alliance tournament 18 are the |
| 16623s | frecky and the mimir the uh price ships |
| 16626s | which were given out Alliance tournament |
| 16628s | I want to say seven or eight uh way back |
| 16631s | in the day in their first run since then |
| 16634s | all the different |
| 16635s | um factions more garistas |
| 16640s | Etc have all took turns sponsoring the |
| 16643s | alliance tournament and the price ships |
| 16644s | are usually based on those particular |
| 16646s | factions last year for example we had |
| 16648s | the Raiju and the laylaps as the |
| 16651s | electron 17 were sponsored by mordu's |
| 16654s | Legion |
| 16655s | uh in terms of what this means for the |
| 16657s | feeders well because instead of doing a |
| 16659s | single elimination is these uh tribal |
| 16662s | brackets there's plenty possibility to |
| 16665s | have ties you know teams going one one |
| 16666s | and one in their bracket and in order to |
| 16669s | determine who takes the tie breaker the |
| 16672s | mimitar Republic informed The igc Who |
| 16676s | Run the tournament that they wish to use |
| 16678s | what we've called the rust score so |
| 16680s | every time you bring a mimitar ship that |
| 16684s | ships points are basically added to your |
| 16686s | rust score and that was before any point |
| 16688s | inflation due to bringing two of the |
| 16690s | same |
| 16691s | everything else being equal if you |
| 16693s | brought more memory to our ships well I |
| 16694s | mean this tournament is sponsored by the |
| 16696s | military Republic they appreciate that |
| 16698s | they appreciate your business uh so |
| 16700s | they're more likely to allow you through |
| 16701s | into the next round of the tournament uh |
| 16704s | so that's that's where we stand with uh |
| 16706s | with mimitar Republic uh in Rust We |
| 16708s | Trust although it looks like uh Amara |
| 16711s | lasers are going to be doing some damage |
| 16713s | um in this particular tournament we've |
| 16716s | seen them be very effective a number of |
| 16718s | times Blackboard pirate |
| 16721s | what do you think about the freaking |
| 16723s | mimir I mean they've been long mocked |
| 16725s | for being uh some of the worst Alliance |
| 16728s | tournament prai ships of all time uh do |
| 16730s | you think they will remain as bad or is |
| 16732s | there anything else that you can say |
| 16733s | about that |
| 16735s | so from what I understand uh CCP is |
| 16738s | planning on doing a rebalance of the |
| 16740s | mimir and Frankie I would |
| 16742s | hope that they're going to make them |
| 16744s | significantly better uh I believe that |
| 16746s | they are |
| 16749s | that's what the plan is obviously we |
| 16750s | don't have finalized to ask for them uh |
| 16752s | we don't know exactly what they're going |
| 16754s | to be but from what I understand and |
| 16756s | what I've been told that they're going |
| 16758s | to be uh kind of elevating them up onto |
| 16761s | the current uh status of Eve online |
| 16763s | ships because we have had a little bit |
| 16765s | of power creep especially in regards to |
| 16767s | at ship some of the ones that came |
| 16770s | afterwards are incredibly awesome |
| 16773s | um specifically thinking like the fiend |
| 16775s | is really really cool it's my favorite |
| 16777s | one uh so I don't really you won't |
| 16780s | really see any of them anymore they're |
| 16781s | pretty not a lot of them are left around |
| 16783s | but yeah they're gonna they're going to |
| 16784s | buff buff the nimir and the freaky from |
| 16787s | what we all understand |
| 16789s | yeah one of the other cool things is |
| 16791s | since Alliance tournament 17 the number |
| 16792s | of prai ships and the position you need |
| 16794s | to reach in the united term has |
| 16796s | increased significantly uh in a in a |
| 16798s | move I am fully behind used to be you |
| 16801s | basically have to be top four and then |
| 16802s | the fourth place team would get um not |
| 16805s | very many like one of each |
| 16807s | um third place we get a bit more second |
| 16808s | place we get a chunk more in first place |
| 16810s | we get the Lion's Share now it goes all |
| 16812s | the way down uh to Tenth position |
| 16815s | getting uh ships so you basically only |
| 16818s | have to do and certainly started to a |
| 16821s | teams in the tournament you don't have |
| 16821s | to do anywhere near as much to get |
| 16824s | yourself and your team some price ships |
| 16826s | the number has gone up from 50 to I |
| 16828s | think it's like |
| 16830s | 250 something like that which means |
| 16832s | there's a significant amount more of |
| 16833s | them out in the ecosystem which is |
| 16835s | awesome uh because we get to see a lot |
| 16837s | more people flying them around it used |
| 16838s | to be like maybe you got one if you were |
| 16840s | lucky in a team |
| 16842s | um I mean per person if you did really |
| 16843s | well and you wouldn't want to lose it so |
| 16845s | people wouldn't risk flying it now maybe |
| 16846s | you get two or three so people are much |
| 16848s | more likely to sell one to someone who |
| 16850s | wants to fly it and we saw plenty of |
| 16852s | riders and Lee lapses getting caught web |
| 16855s | drones or PM |
| 16857s | um so I'm looking forward to seeing |
| 16858s | people flying around in Mimi's and |
| 16860s | Frankies and next year when we get to I |
| 16862s | think a lenty republic and we see the |
| 16864s | address here and the utu that is going |
| 16866s | to be pretty baller |
| 16869s | but before that um we have to get |
| 16871s | through Alliance tournament 18 uh and to |
| 16873s | get to that we have to finish the trials |
| 16875s | so we have our last match of the day uh |
| 16878s | pretty much ready to go |
| 16880s | um with the initiative versus Shadow |
| 16882s | cartel in this elimination match so |
| 16885s | whoever loses this one's definitely not |
| 16888s | winning any freckies rickies or mimiers |
| 16890s | so let's go to the arena and find out |
| 16892s | between uh between these two teams with |
| 16895s | fear and Basilisk |
| 16900s | welcome back to the arena my name is |
| 16903s | fear that's the Basilisk and we have on |
| 16906s | the red side the initiative dot with an |
| 16909s | armor control setup depending on a |
| 16912s | Vindicator |
| 16914s | yep and on the other side shut up cartel |
| 16916s | bringing a fairly standard shield Rush |
| 16918s | which we've seen quite a few times over |
| 16919s | the past couple days |
| 16920s | um but I'm not sure if they're actually |
| 16922s | going to want to rush here this is going |
| 16923s | to be you know this match is going to be |
| 16924s | pivotal on what they choose to do here |
| 16926s | because you know you come up against a |
| 16927s | Vindicator and two Tempest fleets you |
| 16929s | think do we want to go into that maybe |
| 16930s | not but I'm not sure what else the |
| 16932s | wincon is going to be maybe they'll be |
| 16934s | able to burn Around The Vindicator and |
| 16935s | and sort of pick on this low end of the |
| 16937s | comp here but of course those frigates |
| 16939s | on on the um initiative side are going |
| 16941s | to be well advised to sort of try and |
| 16943s | hug into that Vindicator hug into their |
| 16945s | Zone control and rely on them to sort of |
| 16947s | provide an area of safety |
| 16949s | and we're off nearest moving uh |
| 16952s | left as far as I can see uh off the |
| 16954s | start of it trying to look for an uh |
| 16956s | probably an opening on the back line |
| 16957s | move around this Battleship core from |
| 16961s | the initiative dot I was like keep on |
| 16963s | moving away they're going to look for |
| 16965s | their opening but this Vindicator |
| 16966s | Tempest Fleet issue and the other |
| 16967s | Tempest Fleet issue are burning in might |
| 16969s | actually find Liam schotten at the back |
| 16972s | of it as he is very far behind the rest |
| 16974s | of his team |
| 16975s | he is but he should be able to get away |
| 16977s | I mean it's a now running away from |
| 16978s | arm of indicator he should have speed in |
| 16980s | in Spades here and of course he's got a |
| 16982s | hyena of Max on top of them as well to |
| 16983s | try and web these guys down and as long |
| 16985s | as this hyena doesn't get webbed and |
| 16986s | caught out of position I think this is |
| 16989s | actually going to plan so far for shadow |
| 16990s | cartel they've sort of lured these |
| 16991s | battleships out of position and the |
| 16993s | frigate Wing isn't on top of them |
| 16994s | um so they can hopefully just sort of |
| 16996s | pin these battleships down in no man's |
| 16998s | land and allow the sleptness and the |
| 16999s | hurricane fleets to get into position on |
| 17000s | the backline |
| 17002s | yeah this vexer was screened off by the |
| 17004s | hyenas the Karen keeps moving uh with |
| 17006s | the rest of the team these slept nears |
| 17007s | though towards the edge of the Arena |
| 17008s | about yeah maybe closer to 80 kilometers |
| 17011s | away the thorax on the top side though |
| 17014s | might be in trouble as the Dual |
| 17015s | hurricane Fleet issues appear to be |
| 17017s | going towards lockdown and that is who |
| 17020s | they are shooting at the moment neither |
| 17021s | of the submers are there but they are |
| 17023s | moving towards that thorax at the moment |
| 17024s | as the battleships are way too far away |
| 17026s | to Aid them |
| 17028s | yeah this is going to come down really |
| 17030s | really pivotal performance here from Max |
| 17032s | Ibanez because he's got three |
| 17033s | battleships effectively to control here |
| 17035s | he's got the Vindicator and the two |
| 17036s | Tempest fleets who are trying their |
| 17037s | hardest to get on top of something and |
| 17039s | he's quite likely only got two webs on |
| 17040s | that hyena as I can see a paint coming |
| 17042s | off as well so he needs to keep |
| 17043s | switching those webs up keep those |
| 17044s | battleships slowed down and away from |
| 17046s | the action while the rest of his team |
| 17047s | pumps into the backline |
| 17049s | yeah the thorax going down pretty |
| 17052s | quickly at the moment as the slopners |
| 17054s | are finally on top of them they gotta be |
| 17055s | careful about these battleships the |
| 17057s | vindicator's starting to move in |
| 17058s | near of Liam a little bit too far |
| 17060s | forward but he's going to try to be |
| 17062s | headed off uh as the scalpel nearly gets |
| 17064s | in web range of The Vindicator they keep |
| 17067s | on moving on to the sorex but he's not |
| 17068s | breaking nearly as fast and it looks |
| 17070s | like luxus in the hurricane Fleet issue |
| 17073s | might be the primary for this triple |
| 17074s | Battleship comp |
| 17076s | yeah they really need to pick their |
| 17077s | Windows here very very carefully once |
| 17078s | you get webbed by The Vindicator |
| 17079s | obviously with a 90 web it's very very |
| 17081s | difficult to get away from it again so |
| 17083s | this is going to be a match of of |
| 17084s | initiative just trying to sort of pile |
| 17086s | on top of whatever they can get the |
| 17087s | Bindi on top of and Shadow car till |
| 17089s | continuing to just sort of probe for an |
| 17090s | opening you know if they stick on top of |
| 17092s | something and they can make a trade |
| 17093s | maybe on the thorax and then The |
| 17094s | Vindicator rolls up and website the |
| 17096s | slept near is a lost cause he's gonna |
| 17097s | die but this is sort of devolving now a |
| 17100s | little bit I think one of these is |
| 17101s | looking like he's very close to The |
| 17102s | Vindicator and that Sentinel does go |
| 17104s | down on the initiative side however |
| 17107s | web |
| 17111s | yep slap near Corrigan appears to be |
| 17113s | webbed down at the moment as a Magus is |
| 17116s | actually uh webbing down another slump |
| 17118s | near uh as well or maybe the other way |
| 17119s | around I can't quite see the animation |
| 17120s | don't have fancy UI but at the same time |
| 17123s | uh no damage has gone on to core gun yet |
| 17125s | they're now starting to bring their |
| 17127s | damage on top of him and The Vindicator |
| 17130s | should be able to track him just well |
| 17131s | with these 90 webs as the Magus Falls |
| 17134s | yeah and this is what a situation where |
| 17136s | it's so dangerous to bring lodgy frigs |
| 17138s | because your sleptner has been caught |
| 17139s | and those logic freaks would love to go |
| 17141s | in there and help him they would love to |
| 17142s | pump reps into him but if they do that |
| 17144s | then The Vindicator is just going to |
| 17145s | switch his web onto them and they're |
| 17146s | going to get blasted too so they have no |
| 17147s | real Choice here they can't go in and |
| 17149s | save Corgan Corgan is dead and they're |
| 17151s | gonna have to try and continue this |
| 17152s | match without him obviously that's a |
| 17154s | significant chunk of their DPS drop in |
| 17155s | there |
| 17157s | yeah they're gonna try to trade for the |
| 17159s | vexer of caxton who does go down around |
| 17162s | the same time as Corrigan and we'll see |
| 17164s | where the Vindicator is there's another |
| 17165s | slop near right on top of them I believe |
| 17168s | that's no actually uh that was just the |
| 17171s | model Liam is actually moving in though |
| 17173s | towards this Vindicator at the moment |
| 17175s | so thorax still hasn't gone down budget |
| 17177s | looks to be the primary first though |
| 17179s | from the initiative |
| 17182s | this stalk is still stuck up in the |
| 17183s | action as well I mean this yeah the |
| 17185s | budget it air of in the hurricane Fleet |
| 17187s | is now looking like he's getting |
| 17188s | absolutely dogpiled on here of course |
| 17190s | the hurricane Fleet just basically a way |
| 17191s | less tanky version of a slap now um and |
| 17194s | he's gonna eat crow pretty damn quickly |
| 17196s | here is this Vindicator and two but two |
| 17198s | Tempest sleets roll up on him and |
| 17199s | they're not looking like they can make |
| 17200s | the trades here I mean um Shadow cartels |
| 17202s | seem to have over committed to this |
| 17203s | fight they they had the right strategy |
| 17206s | at the start of trying to kite the |
| 17207s | battleships out get them into a bad |
| 17209s | position and then keep them off the back |
| 17210s | line but they just they seem to have not |
| 17212s | quite made enough space and the The |
| 17214s | Vindicator and the Tempest Fleet seem to |
| 17216s | have been able to to get in on the |
| 17217s | action relatively quickly here |
| 17219s | yeah they picked off some of the low end |
| 17221s | but as you mentioned that Vindicator |
| 17222s | getting in just in time picking out one |
| 17225s | slap near and now on a budget in the |
| 17227s | hurricane Fleet issue goes down we'll |
| 17229s | see who his next Target is he does have |
| 17231s | once again those massive webs as uh |
| 17235s | looks like the thorax is still maybe the |
| 17237s | primary from the near hurricane |
| 17238s | Fleet I'm not sure Liam though is |
| 17240s | definitely being webbed down and |
| 17242s | definitely going down in his near |
| 17245s | yeah this is looking pretty Dire Straits |
| 17247s | for for |
| 17248s | um for shadow cartel right now they seem |
| 17250s | to have sort of given up on their |
| 17251s | strategy of kiting around trying to |
| 17252s | build space perhaps when that first let |
| 17254s | me got tackled they could have taken |
| 17256s | that opportunity to get everything away |
| 17257s | sort of reset say okay you know we lost |
| 17259s | that sled mirror but let's try and move |
| 17261s | everything away and and start again and |
| 17263s | try and pick something apart but they |
| 17265s | seem to have forgotten that strategy in |
| 17267s | the last two minutes or so as now this |
| 17268s | Liam shots and is taking huge chunks and |
| 17270s | of course still these lodgy frigates |
| 17271s | can't really come in without risking |
| 17273s | getting blown up themselves and they're |
| 17274s | just losing this DPS race at this point |
| 17276s | The Vindicator and Tempest fleets are |
| 17277s | still absolutely untouched |
| 17280s | yeah just nothing they can do after the |
| 17282s | slap near Falls the only DPS ship they |
| 17283s | have left will be his Hurricane Floyd |
| 17285s | issue and the Scythe Fleet issue that's |
| 17287s | not nearly enough to deal without the |
| 17289s | initiative dot has brought I'm calling |
| 17292s | it right now the initiative dot are |
| 17293s | moving on to the playoffs and Shadow |
| 17295s | cartel are knocked out |
| 17298s | yeah it's a little bit I mean you know |
| 17302s | sad to be honest I mean Shadow cartel |
| 17304s | perhaps a little bit cowardly if one |
| 17306s | might say to sort of leave the |
| 17308s | tournament so prematurely |
| 17310s | um but this was for sure a tricky match |
| 17311s | for them to come up into if you bring a |
| 17313s | shield rush and you encounter a |
| 17314s | Vindicator and a comp that you really |
| 17316s | don't want to rush into you can find |
| 17318s | yourself in a sort of tricky position of |
| 17319s | well how do we actually go about winning |
| 17321s | this match if we uh we can't operate on |
| 17324s | our WinCo and that's sort of what |
| 17325s | separates good teams from from lesser |
| 17328s | skilled teams just sort of being able to |
| 17329s | identify okay this was our game plan in |
| 17331s | this match in particular it's not going |
| 17333s | to work out so we need to adapt to the |
| 17334s | situation and figure out how else we're |
| 17335s | going to win this match and Shadow |
| 17336s | cartel started off well by trying to |
| 17338s | type those battleships out and pull them |
| 17339s | into a bad position but they just didn't |
| 17340s | build themselves enough space I think |
| 17343s | yeah not nearly enough space not nearly |
| 17346s | enough picking apart or pulling apart of |
| 17349s | the initiative.team and obviously The |
| 17351s | Vindicator as well just wasn't screened |
| 17353s | off as effectively as he could have been |
| 17355s | they had a hyena if I'm not mistaken |
| 17356s | that could have done something to deal |
| 17359s | with this Vindicator uh but instead |
| 17361s | actually the high end is still up so |
| 17363s | they did but weren't able to screen them |
| 17365s | off and instead The Vindicator got right |
| 17366s | on top of them was able to get the webs |
| 17368s | onto the primary targets Hurricane Floyd |
| 17371s | issue Falls and the only DPS left is a |
| 17373s | safe lead issue and he does not have |
| 17374s | enough DPS to break three battleships |
| 17377s | yeah this is just going to be the drags |
| 17379s | here Shadow call tell what's left over |
| 17380s | and they're going to slowly get a little |
| 17381s | down here or perhaps quickly as the webs |
| 17383s | come on and start punching through this |
| 17385s | remainder of the Shadow cartel support |
| 17386s | Wing but yeah it's a disappointing end |
| 17389s | for them to bring a shield Rush that |
| 17390s | we've seen be so effective and just come |
| 17391s | into what is I wouldn't say a hard |
| 17393s | counter but as I said it is a very very |
| 17395s | tricky match to pull off you need to |
| 17397s | control the range and the communications |
| 17399s | especially with that hyena pilot he |
| 17400s | needs to be able to sort of say you know |
| 17402s | I've got the Bindi web down everyone |
| 17403s | needs to be looking at their ranges |
| 17405s | making sure they're out of Harm's Way |
| 17406s | but when those Vinnies whenever he does |
| 17407s | roll up when those tempers do roll up |
| 17409s | and they just weren't able to pull it |
| 17410s | off |
| 17412s | yeah I'm just not nearly enough uh in |
| 17415s | the execution I mean we talk about |
| 17417s | Shield Rush being one of the easiest |
| 17418s | taxi hoot comps in uh the at just |
| 17422s | generally speaking not just Minotaur |
| 17423s | rush but any version of Shield Rush |
| 17425s | including hamrush right but in these |
| 17428s | edge cases where you have a difficult |
| 17430s | matchup that's where you separate the |
| 17432s | good teams who are running Shield Rush |
| 17434s | from the teams that are running it |
| 17435s | because they think that it is always |
| 17437s | going to be the easiest comp to execute |
| 17439s | this case wasn't the case and they ended |
| 17442s | up getting punished uh for having the |
| 17444s | right idea but just not the right |
| 17446s | execution |
| 17448s | yeah it's also a bit of a risk as well |
| 17450s | bringing carries into this comp because |
| 17451s | as we're saying you know carries if |
| 17453s | you're coming up against kite comp it |
| 17454s | could be very very helpful shutting down |
| 17456s | let's say you know you've got semi |
| 17457s | kiting around |
| 17458s | um and you take his lot range down to |
| 17459s | eight kilometers and suddenly he has to |
| 17461s | come into your rush but when you're up |
| 17462s | against vindies and Tempest fleets if |
| 17463s | you're damping them out and you're |
| 17465s | saying okay you can't lock more than 10 |
| 17466s | kilometers they don't give a they |
| 17468s | don't care |
| 17470s | no they do not I mean this is exactly |
| 17473s | what the desk was pointing out with |
| 17474s | these damps uh added to the shield Rush |
| 17476s | comps is just not worth it especially in |
| 17480s | these types of scenarios when you could |
| 17481s | have spent those points on more DPS |
| 17484s | perhaps if they had one more DPS ship in |
| 17486s | this thing they could have been able to |
| 17488s | actually trade favorably for that first |
| 17490s | slap near instead they just ended up |
| 17492s | getting picked apart one by one by one |
| 17495s | by this Vindicator over committing not |
| 17497s | breaking themselves off when that |
| 17499s | Vindicator found the first slap near and |
| 17501s | we see what the results of that were |
| 17505s | yep for sure for sure for sure I agree |
| 17507s | with everything here it's it's |
| 17509s | yeah there's nothing here that we |
| 17510s | haven't already said I think it's it's |
| 17512s | just a difficult situation to be in and |
| 17515s | but with just 30 seconds left on the |
| 17517s | match it does look like um Shadow cartel |
| 17519s | are not going to be wiped out initiative |
| 17520s | they're not going to collect the 400 |
| 17522s | points but they will collect the match |
| 17523s | Victory and that means they will be |
| 17524s | advancing as I believe the second seed |
| 17526s | in this group |
| 17528s | um on to next yes they are they're the |
| 17530s | second seed in the group we'll see them |
| 17532s | next Wednesday uh weekend Shadow cartel |
| 17534s | at least they're friends in snuffed out |
| 17536s | made it to uh next weekend perhaps uh |
| 17539s | they can blob and low SEC together to uh |
| 17541s | make up for this loss uh either ways GF |
| 17545s | has been called we're going to send it |
| 17546s | back to the desk |
| 17558s | thank you |
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| 17613s | there you are the initiative securing |
| 17616s | the final Place uh this weekend in |
| 17620s | Alliance tournament 18 mimitar Republic |
| 17622s | uh trials Shadow Patel unfortunately |
| 17625s | departing us for the final time |
| 17629s | um and that's it we're done for the |
| 17630s | weekend uh with the alliance tournament |
| 17633s | 18 mimitar Republic trials will be back |
| 17636s | next weekend on Saturday the 8th of |
| 17640s | October at 1500 Eve for the first match |
| 17644s | um and all that remains to do is to say |
| 17645s | thank you to everyone uh thank you all |
| 17647s | for watching thank you all for competing |
| 17650s | especially to the teams that we will we |
| 17652s | will not see any more of uh this |
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| 17665s | we thank you very much for competing and |
| 17667s | I wish you well and hope to see you in |
| 17669s | more tournaments in the future of course |
| 17671s | thank you very much to all the of people |
| 17674s | who've helped make this possible the |
| 17675s | people in the background clicking all |
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| 17692s | away all of your Twitch points uh with |
| 17695s | his predictions all day long |
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