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809s | hello everybody and welcome to day |
811s | number two of the Hearthstone Master |
812s | tour fall Championship my name is TJ and |
815s | helping me kick off the show is adal B |
817s | ad Place how you doing today I'm doing |
819s | all right this was the closest I could |
822s | find to a costume sort of like vampire |
826s | style uh for for you know Halloween |
828s | weekend but uh yeah in general I'm I'm |
832s | hyped I'm ready to go can see our our |
834s | top eight |
836s | cut I'm dressed up like a |
840s | Hearthstone Caster a nearing middle-aged |
842s | Hearthstone Caster there you go that's |
844s | my get up this week I don't think I've |
847s | I've worn a different shirt on a Sunday |
850s | cast in six years this is my Sunday cast |
854s | shirt six years of time and and starring |
857s | TJ as himself |
859s | right yeah that's right actually you |
861s | know what I'm dressed up as me from one |
863s | year ago there you go just best past TJ |
866s | today that's my Halloween theme I I |
868s | looked around and I asked my wife I was |
870s | like I need a something like a mask a |
873s | hat anything I got nothing we got kids |
875s | costumes and they don't fit and my |
879s | youngest son we'll get into the Haron |
880s | stuff in a second this is important U my |
882s | youngest son is being Sid from Toy Story |
885s | and for Halloween which is literally |
887s | just he wears a black shirt with a skull |
888s | on it that's that's the costume like |
890s | that's the whole thing he even looks |
891s | like him he's got a big old head that's |
893s | bulbous and a short haircut like it it's |
896s | that's it so no costumes no nothing |
899s | um but we do have some Hearthstone today |
901s | I don't have a costume but we I still do |
903s | have uh some some Hearthstone to cast so |
906s | this is day two of fall Championship um |
909s | and uh taking a look at what happened in |
912s | yesterday's matches we ended up getting |
913s | to a pretty sick top eight a lot of the |
915s | streamers in the top eight but yesterday |
918s | had uh some ups and downs in terms of |
920s | gameplay but I think it was still an |
922s | exciting day we got to see some the |
923s | strengths and weaknesses of some of the |
925s | decks in this uh in this pretty new |
928s | metag game |
929s | yeah and we did have to say goodbye to |
932s | some uh favorite players you know |
934s | tonsoku |
936s | and uh Gabby Casey so and of course when |
941s | it's a Top Cut like this we we always |
943s | kind of know just about everyone but um |
947s | you know someone's someone's not going |
950s | to make it today too so yeah and I I |
954s | think uh the strength of some of the |
956s | Decks that we saw really came through I |
958s | feel like de Demon Hunter uh definitely |
960s | struggled the few players that brought |
962s | it we saw a little bit from tonsoku some |
964s | from Casey and it seemed like Demon |
966s | Hunter was tough to get wins Shaman as |
968s | well has been incredibly Hit or Miss um |
971s | and in where we see some matchups where |
974s | a players up 20 and it's like oh jeez |
976s | this is going to be close they have |
978s | Shaman left so I'm curious to see how |
980s | things are going to shape out today but |
981s | taking a look at the overall program |
983s | overview the goal for all these players |
985s | really is to compete at the world |
986s | championship which is um in a littleit |
989s | less than 2 months uh with the big prize |
991s | pull of |
991s | $350,000 uh each of these seasonal |
994s | championships we're currently in the |
995s | last one fall has a a respectable price |
997s | bll at |
998s | $50,000 and then uh the rest is just |
1001s | players that are going to be competing |
1003s | right we for the uh seasonal |
1005s | championships we started with 16 uh |
1007s | split between the regions and then the |
1011s | uh World Championship consists of each |
1013s | of the winners of these seasonal |
1014s | championships uh plus them the highest |
1016s | point earners uh throughout the year so |
1018s | still waiting for those spots um as we |
1022s | uh get closer to the world championship |
1024s | of course it is the conquest format each |
1026s | player brings four decks four unique |
1028s | classes ban one of their opponents which |
1031s | this tournament has mostly been Warrior |
1033s | and they cannot win with the same deck |
1035s | twice so that means it a lot of times |
1037s | comes down to the the fourth deck which |
1039s | is the big differentiator for most of |
1042s | these players uh that is those demon |
1044s | Hunters |
1046s | Hunters uh there was one warlock so so |
1049s | uh people are are really trying to |
1051s | figure |
1052s | out what's the best way to go for that |
1054s | fourth |
1055s | deck yeah and we'll see who's going to |
1057s | come out on top today there's your top |
1059s | eight bracket we're going to start |
1060s | things off with Hemlock versus levic and |
1062s | we have pocket train versus ream uh |
1064s | that's a a big highlight looking forward |
1066s | to that one MC Banner face versus weu |
1069s | and then Co versus |
1071s | balance um and I I mean in in terms of |
1076s | like past performances this is one of |
1079s | the best top eights we've seen right we |
1082s | have levic who's already qualified uh we |
1085s | have pocket train |
1087s | who basically already qualified but not |
1089s | through a seasonal Championship so |
1091s | looking to take the easy easy row and |
1093s | then um I think MC Banner face is |
1095s | definitely highlight as one of the best |
1097s | and top performing players from the |
1099s | America's region uh America's Last Hope |
1102s | which has been a a baton that has been |
1105s | passed down from generation to |
1107s | generation uh it was Monsanto in the |
1110s | past and now it's uh down to MC Banner |
1112s | face yeah and you mentioned how you know |
1115s | pocket is all all but in in terms of he |
1118s | hasn't won one of these yet but is very |
1119s | high in the points Hemlock uh is another |
1122s | player who has made it to I believe the |
1124s | top eight in each one of these events |
1127s | this year so has been a very consistent |
1130s | performer uh here on the control Warrior |
1133s | rainbow Mage secret Rogue and the Arcane |
1137s | Hunter |
1140s | yeah the Arcane Hunter kind of being the |
1143s | odd deck out um a deck that actually |
1146s | hasn't been performing that well I mean |
1148s | it really it's a deck that hasn't |
1149s | changed much in quite a long time its |
1152s | game plan is pretty simple and |
1153s | straightforward there's not a lot of |
1155s | wiggle room that you have in terms of |
1156s | what you can do but that's the deck that |
1159s | uh Hemlock has opted to go with |
1161s | interestingly enough favorite class is |
1162s | Druid but not many players brave enough |
1165s | to uh bring Druid after uh got hit with |
1168s | the the Nerfs pretty hard after a long |
1171s | streak of dominance uh in constructed so |
1175s | um well Hemlock still having success |
1180s | despite not being able to play that |
1181s | favorite |
1182s | class yeah and he has opted for the |
1185s | control Warrior which we say control a |
1188s | lot of people I think call it Odin |
1189s | Warrior just because that is the primary |
1193s | win condition you know of course you can |
1195s | get there just by controlling the game |
1197s | but a lot of times it is all about |
1200s | getting down Odin as quickly as possible |
1201s | and then your defense becomes your |
1203s | offense with all that armor gain |
1205s | converting to attack against the enemy |
1207s | hero uh really only two options for |
1210s | warriors between this version and the |
1213s | enraged |
1214s | Warriors yeah and not much wiggle room |
1217s | in terms of car choices as well I feel |
1219s | like all the Odin SL control Warriors |
1222s | are nearly identical the range War does |
1224s | have a couple spots that you can move |
1226s | around with but this one's pretty set in |
1229s | Stone um and definitely one of the most |
1232s | powerful decks uh in the meta game uh |
1236s | and it does have a couple weaknesses |
1238s | notably actually drawing Odin in |
1241s | matchups where you absolutely have to |
1244s | have uh pressure for a win condition uh |
1248s | like in some of the uh otk like in |
1250s | Shaman or rainbow Mage um but it's got |
1253s | so many tools to help it get there and |
1254s | surprising amount of tempo especially |
1256s | with the uh the Rifts and there's |
1260s | levic just jamming some Hearthstone yeah |
1263s | I mean levik just sitting pretty already |
1265s | having won the spring Championship just |
1267s | sort of accidentally made his way into |
1270s | this event uh you know it's it's crazy |
1274s | he he didn't he could have taken a break |
1276s | he didn't have to be jamming laders so |
1278s | much but uh know he's here again and |
1281s | maybe prepared to take so home some |
1283s | extra uh prize |
1286s | money yeah uh he just loves Hearthstone |
1290s | like it it's quite obvious when he plays |
1293s | um that he's having a lot of fun even |
1295s | when I interviewed him before the world |
1297s | championship last year uh he was talking |
1299s | about how like all of his practice just |
1301s | comes from basically jamming ladder and |
1303s | that he wasn't playing with people and |
1304s | that he just loves playing constructed |
1307s | ladder just rank matches just jamming it |
1310s | um which is cool to see and at this |
1312s | point in you know Hearthstone I feel |
1315s | like that's necessary to be successful |
1317s | is to really have that uh that love for |
1319s | the game and taking a look at levik's |
1321s | secret Rogue love to see the break dance |
1325s | in there break dance and the Mixtape |
1328s | this I feel like is a little bit of |
1332s | a off color Rogue it's it's missing the |
1336s | MC blingtron for the full uh the full uh |
1341s | dance party uh secret Rogue uh package |
1344s | there but uh couldn't fit it in with all |
1347s | the other tech cards that in there the |
1348s | prison of yogs are on uh in there as |
1351s | well sort of as like a pseudo |
1353s | replacement for the old yog uh that was |
1356s | changed um doesn't really fit in Rogue |
1359s | the benefit of having in a rogue before |
1360s | was Deb it was by the time you drew it |
1363s | it was free effectively and you could |
1366s | bounce it back with Shadow steps and |
1367s | break dances uh but now the prison is |
1370s | kind of the uh the get out of the get |
1372s | out of jail free card uh for the deck |
1375s | that you need in some of those matchups |
1376s | yeah it's a lot more of a gamble the the |
1379s | you know yog Unleashed was pretty |
1381s | consistent use it as a board clear mind |
1383s | control just very strong utility card |
1385s | now with it being nerfed to that set |
1387s | nine Mana cost and plays two random |
1390s | spells is a lot less guaranteed and and |
1392s | you can't really cheese it as much in |
1394s | the spell heavy decks so the location uh |
1396s | is just kind of a way of giving you a |
1400s | little bit of a gamble you know if if |
1402s | you desperately need a clear or you |
1403s | desperately need a lethal you can just |
1405s | press that button and you know you pay |
1408s | the cost of the first one and the next |
1410s | two are |
1411s | free yeah that's that's right and |
1414s | sometimes you can even use it for like C |
1416s | draw or in Desperate situations just |
1419s | Target yourself and sometimes you get a |
1421s | heal um like if you're dead on the board |
1424s | not recommended if you're just like I |
1426s | could use a heal um but maybe |
1429s | recommended if you're like if I don't |
1431s | heal I die uh so very flexible card in |
1436s | that regard I recommend putting it in |
1437s | all your decks |
1439s | because of just how flexible it is uh |
1442s | but looks like we're kicking things off |
1443s | Warrior versus |
1450s | Rogue and this is a bit of a unusual |
1455s | matchup we get to see in the sense that |
1457s | Warrior was not banned it's been banned |
1460s | I think something like 60% of games |
1465s | let's see here uh Warrior sorry ban rate |
1471s | 71% |
1473s | yep it's been pretty brutal and in the |
1478s | matchup that it hasn't been banned we |
1480s | have been seeing it win but not like |
1484s | handedly right it's it's been |
1486s | struggling at some points so notably |
1489s | like the recen match up yesterday |
1490s | against the rainbow Mage where the |
1491s | rainbow Mage just couldn't draw sip he |
1493s | was able to get out of range of an |
1495s | absurd amount of damage but like that's |
1497s | a lost game game most of the time when |
1500s | you look at it and that was like a game |
1502s | a serious side of game uh so we'll see |
1504s | if it's going how it's going to be able |
1505s | to do here uh against the secret Rogue |
1508s | which does have Tempo has a good amount |
1510s | of value you just have to piece together |
1513s | way to win the game before Odin comes |
1515s | online and you really don't have a way |
1517s | to protect yourself uh from from that |
1520s | much damage you don't have that many |
1521s | turns to work with after Odin if you let |
1524s | it come down safely yeah and there is |
1527s | also the factor that you know the stats |
1529s | we have are just for warrior as as a |
1531s | class so some of these are enraged |
1533s | warriors uh which of course has very |
1535s | different matchups from the Odin |
1545s | Warrior Bladestorm come down clean up |
1548s | mostly the 3-2 uh you know the the one |
1551s | two is |
1557s | collateral |
1559s | there's always a tricky sort of game you |
1561s | have to play against secret Rogue in |
1563s | terms of how much do you |
1567s | value keeping them from say getting two |
1570s | cards off a secret like double cross |
1572s | versus having a secret available for |
1575s | them to be able to activate a card like |
1577s | Gastly Gravedigger uh which of course |
1579s | can be know very annoying if you have a |
1581s | key card in hand that you you really |
1583s | don't want to lose and having that |
1585s | shuffled away into your deck one of the |
1587s | few effects that can do that could be uh |
1590s | pretty devastating at |
1592s | times |
1596s | yeah okay wow actually is going to play |
1600s | uh the shadow of demise with sticky |
1601s | situation just to keep up the pressure |
1603s | on the board and also to try and have a |
1605s | secret uh next turn for Gastly |
1608s | Gravedigger well actually next turn |
1610s | might just be mixtape plus private eye |
1612s | and this was just the best way to spend |
1613s | the |
1614s | Mana um but does have options going the |
1618s | next turn Hemlock is just all removal |
1621s | effectively there's the bridge Rift as |
1623s | well uh to try and get there but it's |
1625s | just a matter of trying to find the best |
1628s | way to sequence these turns to uh get |
1630s | the most M uh value out of these cards |
1633s | um cu the one thing that we're missing |
1635s | here is going to |
1637s | be uh card draw |
1640s | yeah and you know despite all that |
1644s | removal this secret of the spider is you |
1647s | know one the the better ones to to keep |
1650s | playing here just because the removal |
1653s | has to be spent before it spawns since |
1655s | it procs on spell trigger and so that |
1660s | makes Hemlock have to decide if he wants |
1662s | to spend another spell to remove the |
1664s | stealth spider uh most of the time it's |
1667s | not going to be worth it so levit can |
1668s | kind of guarantee that three damage |
1671s | coming |
1677s | in |
1686s | Bri rff of course the most powerful play |
1690s | I think available in the uh Warrior deck |
1692s | on turn five particularly replaying that |
1695s | first riff going to be able to very |
1697s | cleanly deal with these three fours one |
1700s | from the rush and the other from the |
1702s | attack buff to this |
1706s | weapon yeah think it's through but I I |
1712s | even bellowing flame is not a |
1715s | clean uh |
1717s | clear |
1721s | and would have the sticky situation left |
1724s | over as well afterwards |
1728s | but I don't really see anything I guess |
1731s | you could attack and then blade storm |
1733s | but then you're kind of in the same |
1734s | exact |
1735s | situation um and you're floating Mana |
1740s | doesn't feel so Hemlock also doesn't |
1744s | know whether it's necessarily the second |
1747s | situation or the second copy of double |
1750s | cross so I think this is a bit of a |
1755s | decision in terms of does he want to |
1758s | finale the bridge riff and and you know |
1760s | make the highest Tempo play or |
1762s | potentially leave some Mana up to not |
1765s | trigger double cross cuz the Rogue is a |
1767s | bit on cards and can actually run out if |
1771s | they aren't able to activate those |
1772s | double |
1781s | crosses so taking away that Belling |
1784s | Flames which is definitely the strongest |
1786s | removal tool in the hand |
1791s | there yep and also we're still |
1793s | continuing to see this problem with no |
1795s | card draw for hemlock I'm sorry I mean |
1798s | it's not did you see the card that just |
1802s | got burgled |
1806s | there no that was what was it front |
1810s | lines so uh for those not familiar with |
1814s | this card which I would not uh hold that |
1816s | against anyone this is a paladin card |
1818s | normally cost nine Mana that pulls |
1821s | minions out of both players decks until |
1823s | one person's side of the board is |
1826s | full now against something like this |
1829s | Warrior which has very few minions for |
1833s | the purpose of targeting draw on Odin uh |
1838s | there's a very real possibility that |
1839s | this front lines would be able to just |
1842s | pull out that Odin and put levic in a |
1846s | position where he could potentially just |
1849s | run the warrior out of wind |
1855s | conditions yeah you do have like |
1858s | couple of random ones in there uh like |
1861s | ignis and the U |
1864s | armors Finley's in the hand but when I |
1868s | looked at that card for a second I was |
1870s | like wait what I thought it was a a |
1872s | blood in the water oh no no but it's |
1877s | yeah you're right it was burgled and |
1879s | it's discounted so well again going back |
1882s | to that limited number of minions but |
1884s | this objection comes in to play uh very |
1889s | nicely here you know the only minion in |
1891s | hand being Finley Hemlock might be |
1893s | wanting to know sort of ditch this hand |
1896s | to to look for that Odin but uh next |
1900s | Minion's going to get countered and |
1901s | there's really no good minion that you |
1904s | want to let that happen |
1907s | to nope they all are very high |
1914s | value this Hemlock just |
1918s | struggling to do much of anything ah |
1920s | this is a little bit of an awkward |
1923s | situation don't really want to play the |
1925s | front lines cuz you you could |
1927s | just die no no real way to deal with it |
1931s | kboa you'd override |
1933s | your uh your other weapon |
1940s | here uh pure |
1946s | side |
1948s | I think he's maybe planning on going |
1950s | putride make the attack and then |
1952s | serrated bone |
1954s | Spike |
1957s | yeah it's a shame that the kraa isn't in |
1960s | the deck Oh no just going to run this |
1963s | out for the whole concoction you know if |
1965s | kboa were in the deck then levik would |
1968s | have the chance of front lines pulling |
1970s | it out which then means you know fewer |
1973s | minions pulled from his own deck because |
1976s | it it takes up those extra board slots |
1978s | so that's like better going into fatigue |
1980s | and would just be able to clear up some |
1984s | of the potentially threatening minions |
1986s | coming out of Hemlock side although I |
1988s | think there's really just two Minions |
1992s | that you're concerned with there's the |
1993s | Odin of course which is an 88 and then |
1996s | there is the warrior Titan which is not |
1999s | in all of these Odin lists but it is in |
2000s | hemlocks and I suspect that's one of the |
2003s | reasons maybe that levic has not been |
2005s | super interested in pulling the trigger |
2006s | on this front lines without having a a |
2008s | little bit better board position |
2011s | first yeah and I also think maybe with |
2014s | the objection in play he doesn't feel as |
2016s | pressured to do it um just because he |
2020s | knows that like Odin couldn't come down |
2023s | anyway uh if it was there |
2025s | so |
2027s | ioose I think he's just kind of taking |
2029s | in and shride with how this game state |
2032s | is though this the concoction that levic |
2034s | did get from the Peter side is probably |
2036s | the worst of |
2038s | pable um just because provides no value |
2042s | whatsoever and Hemlock even |
2045s | with this hand that just you know can't |
2049s | play Finley can't play a minion even if |
2050s | you draw off the top no card draw like |
2053s | no value generation whatsoever is |
2056s | still applying some pressure and that's |
2059s | a big draw off the top cuz it'll at |
2060s | least |
2062s | pull uh the secrets out of the deck or |
2066s | the the the secret |
2068s | uh just the perjury cuz everything's |
2069s | everything else has been played yeah and |
2072s | it's just going to play the temple game |
2073s | right back both deck thinning in terms |
2076s | of getting the the perjury out and I |
2078s | believe under the objection there there |
2080s | is also a |
2084s | um wait have both double crosses already |
2087s | happened maybe |
2089s | not uh well it's just two secrets and we |
2091s | know that there's an objection so it it |
2094s | would show on the the right side as well |
2096s | so it is objection and |
2098s | perjury |
2103s | [Music] |
2106s | Y and the options are that was a snap |
2110s | barrier I think because levic knows his |
2112s | only option left here is to just play |
2115s | front lines so if you can have that |
2118s | little extra barrier |
2120s | no really I'm I'm somewhat surprised at |
2124s | this I mean it's it's not great for |
2127s | either of them but I do feel like it is |
2131s | better for levic particularly with the |
2134s | break dance |
2136s | pickup just |
2138s | because I mean the warrior has I think |
2142s | more crucial things that they want to |
2144s | actually have the opportunity to play |
2147s | versus you know getting pulled out of |
2148s | their deck there's a lot of battlecries |
2149s | going on |
2154s | yeah L's going to die |
2158s | anyway the Titan picked up able to just |
2160s | throw down the uh the Finley into the |
2165s | objection and protect this |
2167s | Titan on and also gets to proc the stone |
2170s | skin armor to draw a couple more cards |
2173s | with the Titan activation There It Is |
2174s | Well didn't want to take the gamble on |
2177s | the front line so going to take it on |
2178s | the the |
2181s | prison let's see what we get bur RI |
2186s | okay |
2188s | oh oh actually clear |
2193s | sure and Drew a card I've seen better |
2195s | but still definitely could have been |
2197s | worse got some healing as well so yeah |
2200s | that's I'd say that's above average |
2202s | still but there comes the oh no have |
2206s | missed the opportunity to to pull it out |
2208s | of the |
2214s | deck and with the heavy play PL in hand |
2219s | and I don't |
2221s | believe any real way to clear these four |
2224s | fours can clear the |
2227s | Odin Shadow step break |
2231s | dance and also can play the uh one of |
2234s | the five Mana aelor to gain some armor |
2236s | so I mean this is |
2239s | uh you're technically alive but are you |
2242s | really you know I guess it buys you time |
2244s | to then praise yog once again |
2248s | yeah there's a heavy plate in hand so |
2250s | we're already at 16 points of damage a |
2252s | shield block off the top would just end |
2254s | the game or any armor gain really yeah |
2256s | there it is |
2258s | Bash yep that's effectively six |
2261s | damage plus the hero power so good |
2268s | enough uh a very weird game where both |
2271s | players had pretty much nothing for a |
2274s | long time like two uh three two cards in |
2278s | hand uh no card draw being found uh not |
2281s | really any generation being found from |
2283s | leic as well and uh the Odin picked up |
2286s | just in time the Odin had been picked up |
2288s | it it would have taken Hemlock at least |
2290s | a little bit of time to close out that |
2291s | game that could have allowed levic to |
2293s | use those asor to maybe call his way |
2295s | back but out just a time and Hemlock one |
2299s | zero yeah the Rogue you know it's this |
2302s | weird sort of attrition the Gastly |
2304s | graved diggers because while you are |
2306s | taking away card from your opponent |
2307s | you're spending your own cards to do so |
2310s | so each time you play Gravedigger Shadow |
2312s | step you're effectively hoping that what |
2315s | you're stealing from them is more worth |
2317s | it than the cards that you're spending |
2319s | to take away and in the games where you |
2322s | don't get the the draw cards |
2325s | concoctions that means you're you're in |
2327s | this strange sort of top deck mode where |
2328s | you're just hoping yours are better than |
2329s | the |
2330s | opponents yeah the pure side double |
2333s | damage potion that was used to kill a |
2336s | three4 for was not the best outcome |
2340s | pretty much anything else would have |
2341s | been decent in that situation even like |
2343s | double green wouldn't have been terrible |
2346s | um but was obviously looking for uh hazy |
2350s | uh or some card draw but unfortunately |
2353s | didn't get it but the Warriors out of |
2355s | the way I mean I would say the most |
2358s | powerful deck in hemlocks lineup uh |
2360s | that's why the control Warrior itself |
2362s | has been drawing band so much so uh |
2365s | we'll see if Lev can capitalize on some |
2366s | of the other decks him |
2372s | has yeah sort of uh Power for the course |
2375s | you know I think we've been expecting |
2376s | Warriors to get through' been expecting |
2378s | Mages to get through so it often ends up |
2381s | coming down to these last picks in terms |
2384s | of the shaman for levic and the Arcane |
2386s | Hunter for hemlock and that is honestly |
2391s | I think a a matchup that has been you |
2394s | know debated since both decks were were |
2397s | formed you know pre pre- Nerfs in terms |
2400s | of you know who has the edge in the |
2402s | hunter versus Shaman match |
2405s | up yeah I after seeing some of the |
2408s | hunter games uh throughout the day |
2411s | yesterday I kind of lost Pati you in the |
2414s | Arcane Hunter it just wasn't winning it |
2417s | just was not winning games and to be |
2419s | fair there's a lot of tough matchups for |
2420s | it um that's kind of the decision you |
2423s | have to make when you're it's a |
2425s | relatively fresh metag game because of |
2426s | the the balance patch that was on |
2428s | Thursday and you don't know what the |
2429s | best fourth deck is Arcane Hunter is |
2431s | kind of this consistent |
2435s | Beast um that will always do the same |
2438s | thing and capitalize on poor draws bad |
2442s | starts it's always going to be able to |
2444s | deal damage so oh this an interesting |
2447s | start from hemlock uh with the coin and |
2449s | Shadow of |
2450s | demise you can get a private eye out |
2453s | incredibly quickly yeah I mean I think |
2455s | you're not even terribly worried about |
2457s | comboing the second one when you've |
2459s | already got the first one comboed on the |
2461s | coin sort of the ideal hand for the |
2463s | secret Rogue just to make sure you can |
2466s | thin the deck of those Secrets early |
2470s | on in terms of levik's hand though uh no |
2474s | keyboard which I feel like is the first |
2476s | maybe the second time I've seen this |
2478s | weekend Mage not have keyboard onto into |
2483s | a cold case but a fenus circle is not a |
2487s | bad just turn three play to get a f |
2488s | spell and a few little Minions on |
2491s | board yeah start making a little |
2494s | bit of a push at least to fight back uh |
2498s | in the early game but yep there it is |
2500s | double coin into private eye with the |
2502s | shadow of the M getting those Secrets |
2503s | out yep and that's going to be a prettyy |
2507s | fast start for hemlock uh just the |
2510s | perjury oh no it is a sticky situation |
2513s | sorry so that's the best like Bard |
2515s | scenario and oh that hand pretty optimal |
2520s | secrets to pull there uh with with what |
2522s | levic had to do you know the earlier |
2525s | that double cross comes down the much |
2527s | harder it is for the opponent to to play |
2529s | around because there's just less Mana to |
2531s | spare to try and deny the Rogue those |
2535s | cards and then of course just getting a |
2537s | free three four to to start ramping up |
2540s | the pressure is uh always |
2545s | welcome |
2549s | okay just going |
2550s | to get the second one out I mean this is |
2553s | pretty much like all the secrets either |
2554s | pulled or drawn so this is very good |
2558s | very good for |
2563s | H Frozen touch going to be immediately |
2567s | able to |
2573s | infuse and uh yeah once again it's it's |
2577s | a double cross for |
2579s | hemlock so this Frozen touch is going to |
2583s | draw him a couple more |
2592s | cards perjury |
2595s | activates perjury is such a great tool |
2598s | for secret Rogue because it it lets you |
2600s | kind of guaranteed have a secret going |
2602s | into your turn so you can activate |
2604s | things like Gastly gravedigger my yeah |
2608s | and get get access to powerful Mage |
2612s | secrets well there is also that yeah |
2615s | counter spell and objection being sort |
2617s | of the two highest power ones most of |
2618s | the time |
2621s | yep |
2623s | oh this is where that attrition is |
2625s | brutal right taking away uh you know |
2628s | potentially levik's card draw here or |
2631s | first we took the power of Creation in |
2632s | terms of a clear and you know really |
2636s | just leaving levic much more star for |
2639s | cards whereas Hemlock has all these |
2641s | potion belts and another perjury HRI |
2645s | side just kind of sitting on a whole |
2647s | bunch of |
2648s | stuff |
2653s | yeah almost too much |
2665s | value |
2667s | yeah goes for the wisdom of |
2669s | norgon Cold Case pretty strong pickup |
2676s | though Le has no more of |
2682s | that looks like just playing into turn |
2685s | seven Elemental inspiration just trying |
2687s | to get all the spell schools out there y |
2690s | um reverberation can be sometimes hard |
2692s | card to use so three Mana left might as |
2694s | well throw it out there make this easier |
2695s | to uh |
2697s | uh to take care of |
2699s | but he's going to make it to turn seven |
2701s | with uh enough Health to really do |
2703s | anything uh is the |
2706s | question yeah there is the potential to |
2709s | hit life Steel on those Elementals but I |
2713s | think currently the Spells played have |
2716s | been Frost Shadow and |
2720s | fell and I'm not sure if there's been a |
2724s | chance to play Arcane yet is the wisdom |
2726s | of organon would have been the |
2729s | Arcane |
2731s | yeah so only four Elementals uh will be |
2735s | summoned at |
2755s | present |
2761s | so Hemlock just kind of able |
2764s | to relax in knowing that these have been |
2767s | some pretty weak turns from from levik's |
2769s | side you know might expect something |
2771s | like Elemental inspiration to come down |
2773s | next turn and and so might be willing to |
2776s | prepare for that but can also just |
2779s | choose to you know make a big board here |
2781s | go for for Double Summon three drops or |
2784s | something uh just |
2787s | has a lot of flexibility and those |
2790s | Elementals do come out can make some |
2792s | trades with with putride in play for a |
2795s | whole bunch of more |
2796s | value yeah I think he saw the elemental |
2799s | inspiration uh with the grap Digger too |
2801s | right wasn't that one of the options so |
2803s | should know that |
2804s | that's on the horizon um so just trying |
2811s | to set up for it here and I just like |
2815s | pushing Max damage yep trying to get |
2818s | there hopefully there's no rushes from |
2820s | the elemental inspiration to clear off |
2822s | more of this board and put l all out of |
2825s | six yeah six of course in range of |
2827s | double potion exactly just taking |
2830s | advantage of the lron debuff weapon |
2833s | while it's there and LEC I think knows |
2836s | that Elemental inspiration not the |
2839s | gamble that he wants to take little bit |
2841s | surprised to |
2842s | see this come down without having played |
2845s | the Arcane artificer first |
2850s | maybe was hoping |
2851s | for an additional like five Mana option |
2856s | that could have bailed him out so it' be |
2858s | played right away and he could get |
2859s | double value potentially yeah the only |
2861s | one I can think of is wisdom of norgon |
2864s | which would show up as five in the |
2866s | Discover and so getting to draw that two |
2869s | cards |
2871s | immediately uh oh and the objection to H |
2875s | is also the |
2879s | objection but now we just need single |
2881s | damage potion so high likelihood to just |
2885s | here there it is there it is |
2888s | y all right nice quick little 20 lead uh |
2893s | for hemlock against two different decks |
2894s | from leic but tried the Mage and the |
2896s | Rogue now he's going to have |
2898s | to make a comeback in this |
2901s | series but it's not looking good Hemlock |
2904s | fir on all cylinders right now feels |
2907s | yeah it is always possible to you know |
2910s | sweep these fourth Decks that people |
2911s | have I don't know if Hunter is quite the |
2916s | one that I would want to have to sweep |
2917s | particularly when I still have a rogue |
2919s | left on my side uh yeah Rogues not known |
2922s | for their healing |
2924s | capabilities not particularly but they |
2928s | do have a bunch of random generation so |
2932s | you know maybe that could uh find some |
2934s | healing but it's about finding the time |
2936s | to do that cuz sometimes it can be uh |
2938s | pretty expensive but if you get like |
2940s | those private eye |
2941s | starts you can you know get some |
2944s | perjuries and get some disruption early |
2946s | kind of stifle the pressure but there |
2949s | only one deck so also win with uh uh |
2951s | both the other decks too um against the |
2954s | hunter so I mentioned earlier Hunter |
2956s | it's kind of while it doesn't do |
2958s | anything |
2959s | crazy it does just deal damage very |
2963s | consistently it's game plan is not a |
2966s | secret it doesn't have any ways to |
2969s | deviate from that game plan |
2971s | usually uh but it does have some that |
2974s | consistency of being able to kill the |
2976s | opponent so we'll see love it tough road |
2981s | ahead yeah every every once in a while |
2983s | you know you use |
2984s | the immune weapon from uh from the Titan |
2989s | to buy time so that you can deal more |
2991s | damage right it's always a matter of if |
2994s | if you're in a race the only reason to |
2996s | not go face is if more time will get you |
3000s | more |
3004s | damage all right it's going to be uh |
3006s | Shaman |
3008s | first for |
3011s | levic these are the two uh I guess we |
3013s | could say weak |
3015s | links of the |
3019s | lineups yeah but of course you know both |
3022s | I think pretty solidly tier two death by |
3026s | comparison to some of the others we see |
3028s | and holler on brightwing definitely |
3031s | something that Hemlock wants to see in |
3032s | that opening hand as well as the costume |
3035s | singer which uh prior to it being nerfed |
3039s | was one of the highest win rate cards in |
3041s | the deck and probably is still pretty up |
3043s | there even as a one |
3054s | one it's great to be able to have the |
3058s | board yeah in the early game it's not |
3062s | going to stop |
3064s | either yeah I mean this point you just |
3067s | run out the feral Spirits I would |
3070s | expect yeah with hidden meaning I don't |
3073s | know if you're really |
3075s | too worried about it since you have the |
3077s | taunt to block y it's just spending the |
3079s | Mana and it will proc but you're not too |
3081s | worried about it and that's not a great |
3083s | one doesn't even M line up well against |
3085s | the feral Spirits with the to attack so |
3087s | I think levik should be feeling |
3089s | fantastic about this start it's not |
3091s | stopping got schooling to be able to |
3093s | continue fighting and then the Titan to |
3095s | be able to come down and if you have the |
3097s | board you can feel comfortable just |
3099s | going with card draw on the first |
3101s | activation |
3103s | which is going to be great for levic in |
3106s | the coming turns now there is of course |
3107s | the possibility of you know star power |
3112s | just going ahead and and doing a reset |
3115s | for him lock um then going to be able to |
3118s | swing things around I |
3120s | expect if that happens it's going to be |
3123s | a |
3124s | coin and so it's it's a matter for me of |
3128s | like do you coin brightwing this turn or |
3131s | do you coin star power next turn and |
3133s | with being this far behind feel like you |
3135s | have to coin the star power living all |
3144s | of probably hoping for uh Ricochet there |
3149s | yep |
3153s | um but at least it's not worms I |
3164s | guess turn the Tide's not bad yeah and |
3168s | overloading on this turn I think is much |
3170s | better than overlay on next turn so next |
3172s | turn you can probably just play |
3173s | schooling and then roll that right into |
3174s | Titan without having to overload exactly |
3177s | and I like the damage push as well I |
3179s | don't think mlock really has much to do |
3182s | in this game uh star power is going to |
3185s | be able to clear things up but already |
3186s | at 16 it's going to make things pretty |
3188s | easy for levic and Hemlock really hasn't |
3191s | progressed anything um hasn't been able |
3194s | to get rightwing down no spell power |
3196s | Buffs in |
3197s | hand uh but we'll |
3199s | see still still some time left before |
3203s | levic is able to piece together uh Le |
3206s | damage yeah and even though you know the |
3208s | board is now clear and a bunch of these |
3210s | tools were used in terms of the the |
3213s | zapper and spirits and everything you're |
3216s | totally happy with this outcome as the |
3217s | shaman you've you've gotten your |
3219s | opponent down through half their life it |
3221s | just makes your you know combo turn that |
3223s | much easier to make happen uh only |
3226s | having taken know two damage so far |
3228s | himself now four and uh totally free to |
3233s | just play your Titan and draw three |
3235s | cards |
3247s | here I think when you when you see the |
3250s | shaman play ganth for cards you you know |
3252s | you're in a little bit of |
3254s | trouble yeah you often want to be |
3256s | pressuring them so that they have to use |
3258s | it for heal and then maybe you can kind |
3259s | of starve them of |
3264s | cards |
3271s | second star power going to |
3273s | reset and the race is |
3278s | on |
3281s | o bioluminescence might not even be the |
3285s | pick here yeah just because it's too |
3287s | expensive and there's no weapon to |
3289s | reduce |
3290s | it yeah I mean we're very very close uh |
3295s | to |
3299s | lethal in fact with this three damage I |
3302s | think it might actually be 13 damage |
3306s | next |
3306s | turn um cuz it's eight from the |
3309s | lightning |
3311s | bolts uh with the Nava zapper and then |
3313s | the overdraft would be 1 two three four |
3316s | plus the one spell damage so that's five |
3317s | so that's 13 with just those four cards |
3320s | yep not even really you know your |
3322s | traditional combo turn that you look for |
3325s | and and with aelor being it its current |
3328s | iteration still a turn away from being |
3330s | able to gain any armor for |
3338s | hemlock you know one of the ways you |
3340s | often hope to kind of egge things out as |
3342s | a hunter in this matchup is maybe you |
3344s | you know have a forge Titan traps where |
3348s | you say get that uh deal six where they |
3352s | play three spells or or three cards |
3356s | and uh maybe you can you know pressure |
3359s | the shaman into being low enough Health |
3361s | that they aren't actually able to combo |
3363s | you because they'll end up dying on the |
3364s | combo turn but that is just not how |
3367s | things have played out this time around |
3368s | for |
3373s | hamlock all right that's just a bunch of |
3375s | extra damage yep left a two one on the |
3378s | board Jazz Bas picked up and L going to |
3380s | put a |
3381s | point on the board 2-1 now two more to |
3384s | go against the Hun here let's see if he |
3386s | can uh make it |
3396s | [Applause] |
3401s | happen I think definitely happy to have |
3404s | the shaman out of the way |
3409s | there it's |
3411s | just chill play as yep yep not not a |
3415s | care in the world remember he's got the |
3417s | least pressure on him in this |
3419s | event yeah I feel like levik's been in |
3422s | just every tournament in like the past |
3424s | two |
3425s | years it's just really uh milk and |
3428s | competitive Heartstone for all it's |
3430s | worth in 2022 2023 love to see it love |
3435s | to see it it was relatively unknown |
3436s | before that uh which is even one of the |
3438s | cooler parts uh obviously people knew |
3441s | them especially from |
3443s | ladder but beginning of last year was |
3446s | I guess the end of 2021 as well was when |
3449s | levic |
3450s | uh started to just rack up result after |
3456s | results but still in a tough spot here |
3460s | still down 21 not over the hump yet once |
3463s | you get to if you win another one get to |
3464s | game five and it's just one match just a |
3467s | best of one then you can forget about |
3469s | what happened for the rest of the series |
3471s | and just focus on that one but for now |
3474s | still an up pill |
3476s | CL ironically though I think having that |
3480s | you know lack of pressure in the sense |
3482s | that he's already qualified for worlds |
3485s | you know puts you in a better mental |
3486s | state for when you are down uh you know |
3489s | 20 like he was just earlier and you know |
3493s | maybe it gives you all the more |
3495s | possibility of you know overcoming a |
3498s | deficit like |
3504s | this |
3509s | once again hron in hemlocks opening hand |
3512s | maybe it'll pay off a little more this |
3514s | time |
3515s | although It's Tricky while howon is I |
3519s | think always a keep just because it |
3521s | Buffs your entire everything that you |
3523s | want to do right your hand and deck all |
3525s | your Arcane spells it's still it's a |
3528s | little slow now at that four Mana cost |
3530s | and so particularly on the play where |
3533s | you have fewer cards you're working with |
3536s | you're going to end up with hands like |
3538s | these where you okay well the anomaly |
3542s | fixed it but I was going to say you're |
3543s | going to end up with hands like these |
3545s | where you don't have as much of your |
3547s | early game |
3550s | cards yeah this is |
3553s | uh what the fifth sixth anomaly we've |
3558s | seen maybe seventh but I don't even know |
3560s | if we want to include |
3563s | the the yog |
3566s | cuz the Ys were never played |
3568s | uh-huh |
3570s | so that anomaly didn't count therez |
3573s | nobody got to make any use of it just |
3575s | dead card sitting in both players hand |
3577s | oh just side with bone spike in hand |
3580s | yeah knowing |
3584s | that uh the worms are |
3589s | there well it's awkward too you know |
3592s | turn one 14 that does not not line up |
3596s | well into any kind of damage based |
3598s | removal that Hunter can present this |
3600s | early |
3601s | on obviously you don't get a potion if |
3605s | it trades into one of the four ones |
3606s | because they die at the same time but |
3608s | even just presenting the threat of like |
3610s | okay next turn I can hero power get a |
3614s | potion while killing one of the four |
3615s | ones and then take out the other one you |
3617s | know that's definitely damage that the |
3620s | Rogue doesn't want to have to deal with |
3621s | and Hemlock not even going to bother |
3625s | running them |
3640s | out becomes a little bit difficult |
3642s | though because if you're not forcing |
3644s | levic to do anything he's able to just |
3645s | do whatever he |
3647s | wants and Temple is a real |
3650s | thing like these worms are what are |
3652s | they're just going to be useless for the |
3654s | rest of the game |
3656s | that's a little bit awkward well Rogues |
3659s | don't run fan of knives in standard |
3662s | these days |
3664s | so even though you know you'd like to |
3667s | get them down early it it's no small |
3670s | thing if you just play all three of the |
3671s | four ones in the same turn uh after you |
3674s | know swinging the board |
3676s | around yeah well the hard part is |
3678s | swinging the board around if you if the |
3680s | rogue's just consistently playing |
3681s | minions right uh and you're not |
3684s | answering them |
3685s | uh but that does make sense and we'll |
3687s | see if that's actually going to be able |
3688s | to happen bwing can come down next turn |
3691s | it's going to be a pretty big deal done |
3694s | oh the double green |
3701s | o question here is whether or not to |
3704s | break dance the putride I |
3706s | think what about the merlock |
3709s | holes no no I don't think it's ever that |
3714s | it's like a game in inside of a game |
3716s | yeah well the the dance is over pide is |
3719s | dead but he certainly did his job in |
3721s | terms of preventing those four ones from |
3724s | coming down in the early game |
3733s | there now the possibility of another |
3736s | double |
3742s | green yeah also just throw out the CH |
3745s | this too just for another 3-2 on the |
3753s | board got a rush nice great oh rush and |
3757s | a five five that is nice fantastic |
3761s | results |
3764s | Y and yeah if the trades aren't good we |
3767s | don't take |
3768s | them uh a little bit risky going into |
3771s | the star power turn |
3773s | but |
3776s | you do know that three of the cards are |
3778s | four |
3779s | ones |
3787s | yep okay yep this makes sense to |
3799s | be that uh Knight of the Dead should it |
3802s | come down Mana thirsted is |
3805s | healing in addition to being very high |
3808s | stats for the cost so I think levic is |
3811s | happy to be able to take advantage of |
3813s | the break dance rush to trade in there |
3816s | uh sort of hedge against a star power |
3820s | and then also have this tool in his back |
3822s | pocket for later on in the game of you |
3824s | know healing for I I believe it's five |
3831s | yeah double ricochets end up being |
3834s | pretty good here double Ricochet and |
3835s | just throw out all three |
3844s | worms leave a 3-2 which is awkward but |
3847s | hey can't win them |
3852s | all I'm not seeing the second Ricochet |
3856s | unless it's guaranteed off the trinket |
3858s | tracker he played it oh okay |
3861s | gotcha |
3863s | yeah |
3865s | yeah he played the first one and then |
3867s | thought for a very long time about the |
3868s | second one sh |
3872s | yeah but coming down at this later stage |
3875s | does make for easy pickings on these |
3879s | know smaller damage effects from levic |
3882s | and get that perjury |
3885s | down uh looks like a pretty good agar |
3887s | turn though yeah easy slam especially |
3891s | before a potential uh Mage secret yeah |
3895s | yeah seems good do have to think about |
3898s | what you want from it however um because |
3903s | I can |
3907s | see uh Merit to all three |
3912s | choices yeah I mean it's it's always |
3914s | like which which do you want three |
3917s | instances of do you want know three |
3919s | taunts do you want three cards do you |
3922s | want six more damage and |
3925s | yeah think basically if you are going |
3929s | face with the weapon then you maybe take |
3931s | the immune if you're going to clear I |
3935s | would probably lean towards the 3 |
3938s | three yeah I think clearing here oh no |
3942s | okay clearing here and then like |
3945s | protecting |
3947s | Titan for next turn could be |
3950s | good we are coming into the krabat TOA |
3953s | turn so this is going to get cleared off |
3955s | pretty easily but that's just netting |
3957s | some some damage here um hilock could |
3960s | just swing into the kraa |
3963s | which uh is quite good yeah this weapon |
3966s | does sacrifice damage but you kind of |
3967s | need to remove it at this point the the |
3969s | rare instance of you know okay we we |
3972s | have to send five damage not face so |
3974s | that we can protect ourselves although |
3976s | could be a double conjured Arrow instead |
3979s | on the |
3983s | krava HM after checking for uh secret of |
3994s | course that's a lot of card potential |
3997s | with howon you know each of those is |
3998s | drawing |
3999s | three |
4004s | yeah good check just with an Arcane shot |
4007s | here but no just going to rip the |
4011s | Contra at that point I mean maybe |
4013s | figuring hey I don't need multiples of |
4015s | these I would rather get the hidden |
4017s | meaning |
4019s | down cuz in in a sense hidden meaning |
4022s | goes |
4029s | face more secrets will also make that |
4032s | Starr strong bow cheaper should they be |
4043s | activated |
4050s | okay oh and snap mixtape coming out with |
4055s | the Titan Forge traps now the way this |
4057s | works is you do end up discovering Rogue |
4059s | Secrets because uh any class that you |
4062s | know gets something from another class |
4064s | that says discover Secrets you'll always |
4066s | discover from your own pool unless it's |
4069s | specifies |
4071s | yeah you could cheat death and play The |
4073s | Night of the Dead |
4077s | because it is man thirsted now true yeah |
4079s | yeah and it cost one |
4082s | Mana um if after it was cheat death |
4086s | back that's a I mean that's a yeah |
4089s | respectable amount of Health that uh the |
4092s | concoct okay I guess the hidden meeting |
4094s | was not played last turn and second |
4096s | concoct being cheat death is actually |
4098s | not terrible either so right right it |
4102s | also |
4103s | then you know kind of makes it a little |
4107s | less obvious right |
4111s | yeah and the order is such that if they |
4115s | die from the same effect like a star |
4117s | power it will be the the KN that returns |
4121s | yeah there's not a clean way for hemlock |
4122s | to really just remove this one to you |
4124s | don't want to sink four damage into it |
4126s | so the N of the Dead's the minion that |
4127s | would very likely die I think this |
4130s | Arcane shot is the |
4132s | last um one cost spell in the deck play |
4137s | both ricochets both Arcane shots in hand |
4139s | and both |
4140s | Tremors it is a lot of |
4142s | damage uh with the global spell damage |
4148s | effect we have Celestial |
4153s | Arrow |
4155s | or Arcane shot then would be 6 10 the |
4159s | second Arcane shot would be 13 18 20 |
4165s | yeah I mean it's it's really adding up |
4167s | for sure and I think you're kind of |
4169s | happy with just |
4171s | maybe you know clear these with the star |
4174s | power develop a little bit more uh keep |
4177s | pushing |
4180s | face cuz nice as that healing is it uh |
4184s | doesn't address the fact there's a |
4185s | couple of four ones in play and I think |
4188s | a lot of us were surprised just to see |
4190s | how these 4 ones end up playing out in |
4193s | terms of their ility to just acre damage |
4197s | over the course of a |
4209s | game our gift ofo Shields |
4217s | us aelor might have to come down early |
4221s | the aelor 8 just to to Ping these off |
4223s | the board |
4225s | yeah |
4229s | um I'd didn't be tempted to play double |
4233s | cross here cuz if you're daggering |
4235s | you're not really doing much you could |
4237s | Shadow step the night of the |
4239s | Dead just for an extra |
4242s | five knowing that asor is |
4245s | there to clean the board |
4248s | upo |
4251s | soon yeah it's a tough call for me |
4253s | between the extra five healing and the |
4256s | double |
4258s | cross double cross you don't know if |
4261s | you're going to get it uh this I can see |
4263s | as well |
4264s | cuz you know you're taking that four |
4267s | damage either way so you may as well |
4268s | clear the minion he's dead and it makes |
4272s | it harder for both of these to get |
4273s | cleared at least by any minion damage |
4279s | yeah so there is lethal I |
4282s | believe uh but Hemlock does not know |
4285s | what the secret is it's an explosive |
4286s | Rune so we can see that it doesn't |
4287s | matter to what Hemlock is trying to do |
4289s | he knows that it's not ice barrier so he |
4291s | needs to decide or think if he has |
4293s | lethal through a potential counter |
4296s | spell uh which I still think he |
4299s | does um you just throw the Arcane shot |
4301s | out there first the first one because |
4303s | that's just the three damage even if |
4305s | it's counter spell Celestial Arrow |
4309s | Celestial Arrow that's eight plus 2 plus |
4314s | two so |
4316s | 12 H if he place a hidden meaning he |
4318s | doesn't have it I think I just throw an |
4319s | Arcane shot to |
4339s | test wait what got to move fast okay |
4343s | with the yep yeah he still got |
4346s | there |
4350s | okay yeah realized that maybe would |
4353s | not have had lethal if he Arcane shoted |
4357s | it and it was counter spell mhm it might |
4360s | have been one Mana |
4362s | off |
4364s | um he used up all those cards and |
4366s | wouldn't have had enough Mana for the |
4368s | bow if he had done it but uh regardless |
4370s | takes the victory yep testing with the |
4372s | secret you know |
4374s | um a spell that you don't care about |
4377s | losing and |
4378s | then uh yeah just enough Mana with |
4381s | having access to both of the Arcane |
4382s | shots and still the the hero power to |
4384s | fill in for the extra two that would |
4386s | come off of the celestial so well played |
4389s | Hemlock uh you know remember this is the |
4392s | uh second player besides pocket train I |
4394s | believe who has been in all of the top |
4395s | eights this year and it really |
4398s | shows yeah now can add uh another top |
4401s | four to that resume so well done and um |
4407s | you know that like we had talked about |
4410s | the one thing about the Arcane Hunter is |
4411s | just you can you can beat it you can |
4414s | beat it twice in a row but beating it |
4415s | three times in the row is just very |
4417s | difficult eventually they're going to |
4419s | find a way to piece things together and |
4421s | I like the way lovic played that he |
4423s | played Super aggressive went for like |
4424s | the double green potion or got the |
4427s | double green potion and just tried to |
4428s | play Super for Tempo and it did put a |
4430s | lot of pressure but the double Ricochet |
4433s | shot into the star power is able to keep |
4434s | things clean and by time with the Titan |
4437s | which you |
4438s | foreshadowed uh I need to sacrifice |
4442s | damage to buy time so that I can deal |
4444s | more damage and that's exactly what |
4446s | happened because more damage did |
4449s | come yeah I mean the deck just has so |
4452s | much available particularly when you do |
4454s | have howon that early so everything has |
4457s | that that one bit of extra damage we |
4459s | didn't even see any of the uh two drops |
4463s | that |
4464s | you know extra spell damage to all the |
4466s | cards in your hand so uh yeah there's |
4469s | there's so much available that often |
4471s | times using that immune weapon is just a |
4474s | flexible tool of either you get it as |
4476s | nanite axe going face or can just use it |
4479s | to buy more time yeah that's right but |
4481s | hemlocks going to be moving on uh to the |
4484s | semifinals going to face off against the |
4486s | winner of pocket train versus W them |
4489s | which I believe is our next one so that |
4491s | should be a fantastic match but we we're |
4493s | just getting started for it that's just |
4494s | match one which means we have six more |
4496s | to go before we Crown a winner uh and |
4499s | Crown our fall Champion but before we |
4501s | get into our next quarterfinal we are |
4502s | going to have to go to a quick break but |
4503s | don't go anywhere more action to come |
4505s | here from the Hearthstone Master T fall |
4507s | Championship don't go |
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4850s | hello everybody and welcome back to the |
4852s | Hearthstone Max tour fall Championship |
4854s | my name is TJ and I'm joined by the one |
4856s | the only it's Neil Linda Bond AKA you |
4860s | can just call me Linda please how you |
4862s | doing bud I am doing great especially |
4865s | with what we've got coming up next TJ |
4867s | and I don't know how it's going for you |
4869s | but this is going flying by this |
4871s | tournament it's like everyone's brought |
4872s | all these aggro decks even the control |
4873s | decks just kill you now it's been a |
4876s | weird tournament for me like I'm so used |
4877s | to grindy slow tournaments but we're |
4879s | we're whizzing |
4881s | through whizzing on through yeah um I |
4885s | was expecting a little bit more in terms |
4888s | of like slower control decks you know I |
4890s | thought there'd be a little bit more |
4891s | control priest I thought control Warrior |
4893s | will come out and not be banned as often |
4894s | but we're not we're just not seeing it |
4897s | uh we're seeing combo and pseudo Agro |
4902s | and Rogue which does not have an |
4903s | archetype outside of just being called |
4905s | Rogue but uh this is a second match of |
4907s | the day let's go and take a look at the |
4908s | bracket um see how things have shaping |
4910s | up if you're just now tuning in we just |
4912s | got to watch Hemlock take a 3-1 victory |
4915s | over levik to make it to the semi-finals |
4917s | now we got pocket train versus ream |
4920s | coming up and uh this is a big one this |
4922s | is a real big one tell us why it's a big |
4925s | one it's a big one because it's big TJ |
4929s | really big um both these players have |
4932s | sort of helped along with bface and mey |
4935s | sort of put this program on their back |
4936s | this year and chose to stream large |
4939s | chunks of their action throughout the |
4940s | year so we've seen how the points have |
4942s | been gathered that have got them here |
4944s | firsthand and and that takes some doing |
4947s | right you you're streaming the game |
4948s | you're trying to finish rank one Legend |
4950s | and regularly doing so especially if |
4952s | you're pocket train um and still also |
4956s | talking to viewers and generally showing |
4959s | everything it's it's just incredible to |
4960s | me how they've gone with it and these |
4962s | have been two of the biggest proponents |
4963s | of that so fair play to them um in terms |
4967s | of qualification for worlds it's |
4968s | slightly less big than some of the other |
4970s | matches because pocket train barring |
4973s | disaster will make it through on points |
4974s | and Rec vanan probably will as well so |
4976s | they're both in a good spot but there's |
4978s | a lot of money at stake as well there |
4979s | 10,000 first prize in this tournament we |
4981s | we don't talk about that that often but |
4983s | it's still a huge chunk of |
4984s | change and you know pocket's taking |
4987s | seriously so he's brought rainbow Mage |
4989s | TJ rainbow Mage rainbow Mage looking at |
4994s | sort of the quote unquote Tech |
4996s | inclusions not much of it um well you |
5001s | just play all the expensive stuff and no |
5003s | solid |
5004s | Alibi uh some we see some players |
5006s | playing the solid Alibi but they got to |
5008s | cut an elemental inspiration they got to |
5010s | cut the |
5012s | norgon uh something along those lines um |
5016s | but this is the uh version I prefer if |
5018s | you really need a solid outby just |
5020s | discover one right you know um yeah |
5024s | that's how I that's my outlook on life |
5028s | just do what I want and if I really need |
5030s | something just find it if you you really |
5033s | need an Al just ask all your friends |
5034s | until you get one |
5037s | yeah exactly you get |
5041s | it um his opponent is going to be |
5047s | ragam there really up for this aren't |
5049s | they so early in the morning and by |
5051s | early in the morning I don't know what |
5052s | time it is here like 5:00 p.m. or |
5054s | something I was about to say it's not |
5056s | even not not even close to morning even |
5060s | for me morning in the old |
5063s | it's not the morning you get at like or |
5066s | something to get fed by the dogs or |
5068s | something no I slept in today I didn't |
5070s | wake up until like |
5072s | 620 620 I don't even have a 6 or 20 on |
5075s | my clock I just get up and it's a time |
5078s | yeah it's weird it's still dark out here |
5080s | at 620 at least until next week when the |
5082s | the clocks go back wait does that make |
5085s | it worse no that makes it get an hour |
5087s | extra in bed is what they say but |
5088s | actually you get the same amount of time |
5089s | in bed and the arbitrary number on your |
5092s | clock is different |
5093s | [Music] |
5094s | yeah well like here's the we have alarms |
5099s | but kids and dogs do not so they're |
5102s | going to be up when they their bodies |
5104s | think that it's six which will be now be |
5108s | five yeah so um good for them changes |
5112s | nothing Hey look it's a through yeah he |
5114s | got through on this yesterday um looked |
5117s | like he wasn't going to win and got the |
5118s | wind Fury to get through on the the |
5120s | final card of the final game of the day |
5123s | of the final Tournament of the Year |
5126s | final Masters Tour Tournament of the |
5128s | year |
5129s | and looks like he's going to have to do |
5132s | it again obviously pocket train has the |
5133s | same deck the only difference in their |
5135s | lineup is that ream has that shadow |
5137s | priest whereas pocket has |
5140s | the |
5142s | Sharman um both of which are I I saw St |
5145s | and Raven talking about Shaman as if it |
5146s | was like winning everything really |
5148s | easily but I don't think we've had that |
5150s | experience where we've cast have we |
5151s | we've seen Shaman struggle some somewh |
5153s | uh not well in the last series uh levic |
5157s | just kind of tempo a win with Shaman uh |
5160s | which can happen uh it's not as common |
5164s | uh but it can happen so there was that |
5167s | um in terms of like like straight up |
5169s | combo no we haven't seen it it's been a |
5173s | Struggle Bus a little bit you say it's |
5176s | not as common to see it win on Tempo I |
5179s | think I've seen one bioluminescence cast |
5181s | like all tournament f |
5183s | well yeah it's like out of 10 games like |
5187s | two you win with combo two you win with |
5190s | Tempo and then six you |
5194s | lose like that's been our experience |
5197s | with the uh the Mage throughout |
5199s | throughout the weekend I feel that's a |
5201s | pretty good description of uh Shaman's |
5204s | history in the master fall |
5206s | Championship uh but we got Mage versus |
5208s | Rogue coming up right now so uh let's sh |
5213s | Let's uh shift gears |
5215s | deal that was close TJ that was close um |
5219s | the Mage is interesting cuz I think it's |
5220s | the most powerful deck there is but in |
5222s | the tournament if you do all the |
5223s | matchups Mage in theory is the weakest |
5226s | because everyone's brought their decks |
5227s | knowing they've got to face the Mage |
5229s | that being said the stats yesterday |
5231s | showed that Mage was still running at |
5233s | 56% um towards the end of yesterday so |
5236s | it's getting it done despite being soft |
5239s | targeted you can't Hard Target this deck |
5240s | it's just got too many moving parts to |
5243s | Target but it it's doing really well |
5247s | which isn't particularly |
5250s | surprising oh no what do you do without |
5253s | a weapon pocket TR is going to have to |
5254s | teach |
5255s | us I |
5257s | mean still a good hand reverberations |
5261s | versus me Rogue yep want one of those |
5264s | thanks yeah just having something to |
5267s | kill the first Mech without spending the |
5270s | coin also good this is |
5274s | I'm on boor I'm on board with this this |
5276s | is this is tough to deal with I mean |
5278s | he's going to have to play the oh he was |
5280s | going to have to play the worm to get |
5281s | the bolt so he's got reverberations coin |
5283s | ping next turn with the bolt but this is |
5285s | now giving him a decision does he want |
5287s | to try and kill the mechs or does he |
5288s | want to just make a million skeletons |
5290s | and four fours and kill his opponent |
5292s | before they kill him so now he's got to |
5294s | visualize the whole |
5296s | game against mechro it's kind of tough |
5298s | to kill your opponent before they kill |
5300s | you if you're not addressing their |
5303s | bardor |
5305s | um so I don't really like that game plan |
5309s | but if you can do both simultaneously |
5311s | then yeah amen um so you can go you |
5315s | could go keyboard into reverberation but |
5318s | it's just going to want to have |
5319s | something on the board multiple attacks |
5321s | right yeah has reverberation to deal |
5323s | with one big thing and now has attacks |
5325s | on board to deal with one big thing plus |
5328s | a small thing and it gives him the bolt |
5330s | as well right which means he can rever |
5331s | bolt if he needs need to on something |
5334s | terrifying |
5340s | yeah talk about a lot of moving |
5345s | Parts if I'm picking up lots of I know |
5348s | they're not spare parts but they're |
5349s | spare parts come on give me that one |
5352s | yeah come on be be honest with yourself |
5355s | you know you've got to |
5360s | be it kind of requires answer as well |
5362s | otherwise the the card Advantage will |
5364s | get out of |
5366s | hand well the card the card renewal it's |
5368s | never going to be an advantage cuz Mage |
5370s | always has a million cards but |
5376s | yeah all right choosing not to |
5383s | panic four Mana crap TJ how do you like |
5389s | that yeah this one's this one's done so |
5394s | the only question really is do you want |
5395s | to trade first so that your crab people |
5398s | don't get killed or do you want to trade |
5400s | with the crap |
5402s | [Music] |
5403s | people the claws if you will I I think |
5407s | you can uh trade first throw the tutu |
5411s | Devon shield into one of the skellies |
5413s | then kboa and throw the |
5416s | uh crab thing so to elaborate on that |
5420s | point even further next turn you've got |
5422s | any and you want to make sure one your |
5423s | me is |
5424s | alive okay this turn you've got in it go |
5427s | for |
5428s | it we don't |
5430s | need it's going wide going real wide |
5435s | we're kind of in need of an inquisitive |
5437s | creation right now I would |
5440s | say yeah and you're going to get stomped |
5442s | next turn as well so doubly in need of |
5445s | it yeah and it's it's not even like that |
5450s | good it's only at three damage right cuz |
5452s | it's only been frosted fire that have |
5454s | been |
5455s | played um Reverb is not terrible here |
5459s | cuz you can Reverb on the |
5462s | ined um sure and and even ah you can't |
5466s | clear off both if you can't because it's |
5468s | reverbed so yeah |
5472s | yeah but you can like |
5475s | Reverb trade and then play a flame |
5479s | Elemental right cool uh or you can |
5482s | artificer Reverb that probably better |
5485s | just try and G A little bit of Health |
5486s | while you |
5488s | can oh it's horrible yeah it's all bad |
5492s | it's all bad |
5495s | reality yeah he's doing it but this is |
5498s | be grudging not you know he's not |
5500s | excited about |
5503s | this |
5508s | wow the only thing I guess that is |
5510s | happening here is Rec V's not piling on |
5512s | the damage I he's won the board he's |
5514s | going to get a stomper |
5518s | down or a |
5520s | spoa oh my so many |
5529s | options so pocket does have a little bit |
5532s | of |
5536s | time so normally it's instant spider |
5538s | right but I think the reason re's paying |
5540s | attention there is you know he's a |
5542s | Reverb go so the stealth's slightly less |
5545s | useful than usual some Worlds the coin |
5548s | was very |
5550s | tempting but yeah look at this with the |
5552s | Titan next turn oh my |
5564s | goodness |
5566s | yeah no aliis right in this |
5569s | deck |
5571s | nope if you really need one though you |
5573s | can find one got a lot of |
5575s | reverbs yeah oh no another |
5581s | spider 12 on board |
5585s | spider it's so expensive to play the |
5588s | spider because of the way the Mana works |
5590s | out |
5593s | but I |
5600s | wonder put your a opponent to 15 and |
5603s | just have a lot of stuff with Titan back |
5604s | up they keep making bigger boards okay |
5607s | yeah I think with |
5609s | stomper you don't really need the |
5611s | stealth like it's a 79 Reverb is the |
5613s | only way but Reverb I guess Reverb |
5618s | ping oh no you can't Reverb ping only |
5620s | going into six Mana so it shuts off |
5622s | Reverb ping which was pretty much the |
5624s | only thing that could answer it yeah no |
5627s | bolt no yeah cuz of all the yeah sure |
5629s | that |
5631s | works |
5636s | yeah close is |
5640s | it now this |
5642s | uh sick jazz flute is |
5647s | just perfectly apt for the situation at |
5651s | hand just explain further to those of us |
5654s | who aren't into jazz |
5656s | flutes I wouldn't say that I'm an |
5658s | individual who's into jazz flutes but I |
5661s | mean you seem to |
5664s | maybe yeah that's going to do it pocket |
5668s | train I mean it wasn't a terrible start |
5670s | It's |
5672s | just sometimes if Mech Rogue has a good |
5674s | start you need a perfect start in order |
5677s | to answer it and that just didn't happen |
5680s | for pocket train so ream gets a quick |
5683s | Victory with still quite a few choice in |
5685s | that game right pocket train had the |
5686s | choice to play weapon into coin Cold |
5688s | Case try and fight for board that way um |
5692s | obviously you don't know exactly what |
5694s | the Rogue is going to do whether they're |
5695s | going to stealth whether they just going |
5696s | to make a big thing whether they're |
5697s | going to go wide but he thought long and |
5700s | hard about that decision and ream had |
5701s | the choice when to play the |
5703s | stomper really good decision to play the |
5706s | in when he did I think you and I just |
5707s | saw crab play crab course it was the |
5709s | right maloc cost it cleared the board |
5711s | and it looked |
5712s | great uh so even though it was a short |
5714s | game there were still decisions being |
5715s | made there which I think people Overlook |
5717s | sometimes in those aggro games that take |
5718s | five |
5720s | turns yeah I think kbor probably would |
5723s | have been also good in that situation |
5727s | right yeah that's why I missed the play |
5728s | I saw the kbor I think I win if I play |
5731s | this krabat TOA so my brain then stops |
5734s | looking for better options |
5737s | yeah yeah what's better than winning |
5740s | winning |
5742s | better yeah finding a a use for any in a |
5746s | situation where any may not have been |
5748s | able to come down whereas kboa is always |
5751s | an option option um ended up just |
5754s | ditching it |
5755s | anyway with the gear shift |
5758s | but it is what it |
5760s | is um but now ream still with the the |
5764s | priest oh we're going to get to see the |
5765s | priest see if that can take some |
5769s | wins the shadow priest it's the shadow |
5772s | priest yeah which is |
5774s | fine which is fine as opposed to control |
5778s | priest which is absolutely not |
5780s | fine |
5782s | uh control piece is fine it doesn't it |
5785s | didn't get through we saw there's just |
5786s | one in the tournament right they didn't |
5788s | get through oh it's balance he's through |
5790s | so yeah we'll see balance in our fourth |
5794s | and final quarterfinal which is the |
5797s | exact correct number of control priests |
5799s | for a tournament one and I don't cast it |
5802s | it's |
5803s | fine I do cast it so actually should be |
5806s | pretty fun yeah hey I I I I practiced |
5809s | Shell PS for quite a long time this week |
5813s | PR yeah Shadow priest doesn't seem like |
5816s | a Neil kind of deck you know Shadow |
5818s | priest I've played Shadow priest for |
5819s | weeks um during one of the gem |
5821s | Seasons weeks Yeah well yeah cuz it was |
5825s | like the only |
5827s | deck it's like what do I practice I |
5829s | haven't already practiced n nothing I'll |
5831s | just play shadow piece again of it's the |
5833s | best |
5837s | deck now and thinks it is as well |
5840s | certainly not yeah it's going to be a |
5842s | bit awkward this |
5844s | deck it can be I mean it can have starts |
5847s | that are just impossible to beat |
5850s | but like everything outside of that is |
5853s | just quite mediocre so you're just |
5856s | hoping you know your other decks get a |
5859s | get a like a sweep going on you're up 20 |
5861s | you got three chances for the shadow |
5862s | priest you got three chances to just |
5865s | draw the absolute nuts |
5867s | so I think nutshell wow I think this is |
5871s | very much a fourth deck tournament as |
5873s | well like the shaman has been a lot of |
5875s | fourth decks I think again S and R were |
5877s | talking about this in different light |
5879s | yesterday um the control priest we've |
5882s | seen Triant Druid in that slot we've |
5885s | seen all kinds of stuff the thing that |
5888s | hasn't been the fourth deck has been the |
5890s | control Warrior which is running as like |
5891s | an 85% ban rate in this |
5894s | tournament yeah just good against the |
5898s | field that is here it's not necessarily |
5900s | the best deck in Hearthstone right now I |
5901s | think that might go to enrage |
5903s | Warrior but the control Warrior beats |
5905s | these things at a fair |
5910s | clip there you go that's how you play |
5913s | Mage keyboard coin Cold Case vam |
5921s | knows he just |
5922s | knows yeah and just pick a card on turn |
5927s | one yeah just literally literally |
5930s | just get a get a |
5934s | spell when you play discovery of Magic |
5936s | on turn one that's what it is and this |
5938s | cold case does everything I mean it does |
5940s | everything anyway but against Shaman in |
5941s | particular like two skeletons control |
5943s | the board four armor because you know |
5945s | you get low on health against Shaman and |
5947s | a four four because why wouldn't you |
5949s | want a four |
5950s | four lovely we |
5953s | go yeah pocket train with the very |
5956s | British sarcastic |
5959s | nod give the thumbs up last turn |
5964s | yeah he's applauding his friend ream |
5966s | nice to see such |
5968s | sportsmanship yeah wants to play inant |
5970s | next turn so does not want to overload |
5972s | with the feral Spirits no's going to |
5975s | just make two different spells happen my |
5978s | radi I got to watch pocket train for the |
5981s | entirity this time I don't care what he |
5982s | takes |
5984s | oh demonic Dynamics it's a fell you get |
5988s | two demons and they're |
5990s | buffed yeah we take that that probably |
5992s | he's trying to work out his next turn he |
5994s | probably wants to artifice and do some |
5995s | stuff next turn but I want the |
5999s | Dynamics he's probably trying to recall |
6001s | like are there any actual useful demons |
6003s | that heal me and stuff like |
6006s | that or are they all nine |
6013s | drops there's some pretty good |
6017s | ones he's just going he's just winning |
6019s | on Temple right now so |
6021s | that kind of helps with tempo right like |
6024s | it summons a tutu also so it's not like |
6026s | you're just sacrificing your he's |
6028s | thinking about Order in the Court right |
6030s | has has he got three turns lined up and |
6032s | he can just order |
6034s | now let's have a look at his list quick |
6036s | what are you looking for for order you |
6038s | want Elemental your good stuff |
6042s | right just going to check his exact list |
6044s | cuz they all slightly different |
6046s | lists I guess so he's got two Elemental |
6048s | Inspirations si in his hand then he gets |
6050s | norgan on |
6052s | two wisdoms which would be pretty cheap |
6054s | and Lady nzar basically in that |
6057s | order yeah cut out all the the little |
6060s | things like your your your bur basically |
6063s | but let's say this board gets dealt with |
6066s | like you have two turns before you're |
6067s | really doing much like you're not |
6069s | finding your your |
6071s | damage but he has another Prismatic I |
6073s | think that's what he spent so long |
6074s | thinking about but he's got the voice |
6075s | scripture as well so he's going to have |
6076s | two turns worth of stuff I think was |
6079s | his his thinking |
6083s | or rather one and a half and take your |
6085s | chance with the Prismatic if it gets |
6087s | tough |
6089s | like I like |
6091s | it yeah I just wanted demons and I'm |
6095s | really set upset right now but maybe |
6097s | this people who are raised by dogs |
6100s | probably want demons more often than |
6101s | average to be fair |
6105s | yeah this is just infinite |
6108s | stuff it kind of is like this is |
6113s | this is |
6119s | damage cl's up to 40 |
6123s | already and flash of lightning is |
6128s | also I mean you're you're dumping the |
6130s | second crash for sure clear the board um |
6134s | because you also get to discover another |
6135s | nature |
6136s | spell and not really sacrificing much |
6138s | damage on top of |
6140s | it |
6145s | yep oh and the Titan picked up too |
6148s | that's this is a big swing it really is |
6150s | cuz now we're going into turn six which |
6152s | is the turn that you were saying was |
6153s | Ream's awkward turn if he did go for |
6158s | the the order he will pick up uh noran |
6162s | on next |
6167s | turn and then he's got double |
6169s | inspiration the two turns after that |
6175s | which one do you |
6177s | fancy ah I |
6179s | mean probably norgon just so Titan can't |
6182s | be |
6183s | played but you're then you're leaving up |
6186s | the radiance but you don't really have a |
6187s | way to deal with the radiance anyway |
6188s | unless you use noron for |
6193s | damage but that could be worth |
6196s | though well you got Prismatic into Cold |
6199s | Case or whatever you pick up from the |
6200s | Prismatic so you then got better element |
6204s | next turn you still you still leave up |
6206s | the radiance I think noran on into |
6209s | damage might just be the best just get |
6211s | get the radiance out of the way I don't |
6214s | disagree it's not often it's just used |
6216s | for straight up removal like that but |
6218s | this is a very high value minion that's |
6220s | a permanent there it's double reduction |
6222s | next turn if the radiance lives cuz |
6224s | there was a flash of lightning plate as |
6226s | well |
6229s | y tough cool will your and this was |
6233s | always going to be the tough turn if |
6234s | things went wrong for him compr okay |
6238s | okay what with disruption so with |
6241s | there's uh one overload so the Titan |
6243s | can't be played but |
6245s | wait wait I'm waiting I'm |
6249s | waiting it's not |
6252s | lethal wait I'm waiting |
6256s | again now no it's not even close there's |
6259s | only two damage spells in hand uhhuh |
6264s | well you know sometimes that's enough |
6265s | just depends what the Spells are but for |
6267s | Shaman I sort of |
6273s | agree I mean you you might |
6276s | just all right just one crash totem plus |
6280s | one crash and then clear it off pretty |
6283s | lackluster turn but what are you going |
6284s | to do you |
6288s | know okay so there was two norgan under |
6291s | and a nasja if he plays this he gets |
6293s | the the other wisdom and the lady nasja |
6297s | the two next cards in his deck and then |
6299s | we're into volume ups and inquisitive |
6301s | Creations after |
6305s | that I |
6309s | wonder if you get to those Creations |
6311s | still on a decent Health total that |
6313s | might be |
6319s | nice |
6322s | this is really tricky navigation here |
6324s | for |
6334s | recam impressed by |
6336s | my |
6338s | [Music] |
6341s | display the call of |
6347s | sh he the call of |
6349s | what |
6352s | so what do you on about |
6354s | GES I I voice lines I struggle to pick |
6357s | out I play with sound off actually used |
6359s | to play with sound off a lot I play with |
6360s | it on these days because you know I play |
6363s | sound |
6364s | off all right double so many flashes |
6367s | dead he dead dead dead dead |
6372s | dead |
6379s | dead |
6383s | dead dead so much damage dead |
6389s | dead this double flash last turn |
6393s | too Ino was played yeah in's down flash |
6397s | at least single |
6398s | flash possibly double what |
6401s | this I thought it might be double but |
6403s | we'll see so is it down to just play |
6406s | your uh yeah your Prismatic and |
6409s | Hope |
6411s | what are you hoping for |
6414s | um |
6417s | bug something gains me 27 |
6423s | armor yeah was about the best he can do |
6426s | but he knows like he just drew his like |
6429s | his entire deck over the past couple |
6431s | turns used one crash I mean we're |
6434s | actually lacking |
6436s | damage it might not matter that |
6439s | overdraft is like a million |
6443s | cuz it's only the |
6445s | crash and turn the |
6452s | tides but |
6454s | it's he can play everything so it's plus |
6456s | seven spell damage yeah plus eight spell |
6459s | damage twice plus 16 spell damage so it |
6462s | doesn't even matter what you do yeah |
6465s | okay he's good it's literally two direct |
6468s | damage spells yeah this is TJ who few |
6471s | seconds ago said it's only two direct |
6472s | damage |
6474s | spells yeah turns out they could do a |
6476s | lot of damage take 21 Noob take 19 |
6482s | more and it's one all just like that and |
6484s | re had a really good start and the |
6487s | decision in this game was that Order in |
6488s | the Court which I I quite liked uh but |
6491s | you you did you wanted demons you wanted |
6494s | the temple on the board you didn't think |
6496s | you get to turn seven comfortably and |
6498s | you read it all |
6499s | right |
6502s | yeah it yeah it's just tough right um he |
6506s | was hoping that like norgon would buy |
6508s | time to get to turn seven comfortably |
6510s | like the one uncomfortable turn he could |
6513s | block with norgon making the the cards |
6515s | cost more but it didn't really stop |
6518s | pocket train much because he popped off |
6520s | the turn prior to that um and pocket |
6523s | train also knew was coming he knew it |
6524s | was in the hand so he knew when to |
6526s | pressure like it gives your opponent |
6528s | information it makes it so you you can't |
6531s | get creative with your plays because you |
6532s | know exactly what's going to be drawn |
6535s | like I at that point I wouldn't even |
6536s | really care about the demons I would |
6538s | just yeah I don't know um Elemental |
6542s | inspiration though is incredibly |
6544s | important in in that match up I feel |
6546s | because a lot of times they'll kill you |
6548s | before you can like get Sith uh and kill |
6551s | them like their combo happens much |
6553s | faster than yours so you need the minion |
6556s | pressure and the way to do that is |
6557s | Elemental inspiration |
6558s | but um like in order to get |
6562s | there maybe you just try and get there |
6565s | naturally instead of doing it the other |
6567s | way and then go with the demons to try |
6568s | and buy some Tempo along the way well |
6571s | pocket train was one who got there |
6572s | naturally in the end with the with the |
6574s | nature Shaman |
6577s | so we we're down to Mages Rogues and |
6580s | Priests pocket train slight advantage in |
6583s | my eyes here because he's got the what |
6585s | we've been calling the fourth deck out |
6587s | of the way I don't know how other people |
6589s | seeing Shaman it's definitely up for de |
6590s | wa but the shaman or the priest here I |
6592s | think are the fourth decks in this |
6593s | lineup that's my opinion and he's got |
6596s | his |
6596s | through |
6600s | yep I'm still worried about the |
6603s | priest I think yeah I mean there's only |
6606s | one of them in the tournament quite |
6607s | often that's a sign you're either going |
6608s | to win the tournament or you've brought |
6610s | the wrong deck but it hasn't looked too |
6614s | bad it's |
6616s | okay why are you worried about it what |
6618s | worries you about Shadow priest |
6621s | that's just about everything to be |
6622s | honest |
6626s | with what doesn't wor you about it so we |
6629s | can eliminate |
6631s | something uh like |
6636s | the uh I don't know the crazy |
6640s | starts yeah they can be good they can |
6643s | pull off a lot of |
6645s | times notably with like undying allies |
6649s | into like banshees and arm dealers and |
6654s | eggs and then they live and it's |
6657s | impossible to remove because if you |
6658s | remove the reborn Banshee it just Buffs |
6661s | everything else comes back and you can't |
6664s | do anything about it yeah yeah those the |
6666s | starts that can just kill you it's |
6668s | basically a bad version of Mech Rogue |
6670s | isn't it it just does the same thing but |
6671s | not as |
6673s | well uh they have more |
6676s | direct direct he weing at is he waving |
6679s | at us |
6681s | oh okay production was telling him to |
6684s | wave at at |
6685s | us he was requested to wave he's done |
6688s | everything else this season he's |
6688s | streamed his tournaments he's you know |
6691s | tweeted out various events and times |
6693s | he's talked to casters about you know |
6695s | situations and who's going to get to |
6696s | Worlds and stuff and now we're making |
6698s | him jump and wave at us he's done |
6700s | everything he's done it all now he's |
6702s | he's lead on the point with |
6705s | we the production team was probably like |
6708s | you're on camera and then he literally |
6710s | didn't move or change his facial |
6711s | expression at all yeah this is re being |
6714s | asked to wave and then they yelled and |
6716s | said wave or something then he gave his |
6719s | awkward little wave in his slice |
6721s | smk like I'm not here to wave I'm here |
6724s | to play Hearthstone a pokey train likes |
6726s | to |
6730s | wave I mean w waving can be pretty |
6734s | fun if you do it |
6736s | correctly can you can you do it wrongly |
6738s | how do you how do you wave wrongly |
6743s | you you'd know it if you saw it you'd |
6745s | know it if you saw it |
6749s | okay |
6754s | reality it's a |
6756s | major yep if only they could combine |
6759s | their hands into one super |
6764s | hand a what's happening they've to wave |
6769s | he was freaking out see that's weaving |
6771s | wrongly right there it's exactly I told |
6774s | you I told you you knew it if you saw it |
6777s | I saw it and I knew |
6780s | it interesting here that um in this |
6782s | mirror where the keyboard is a big deal |
6785s | cuz you end up getting so much Tempo |
6786s | because of his hand pocket train has |
6787s | chosen not to play the keyboard and just |
6789s | kept the pressure on |
6792s | board um it's not the end of the game if |
6795s | you go two into four and he hasn't got |
6797s | the four um as Mage versus Mage in the |
6799s | mirror because the Other M can still |
6800s | generate massive Tempo but it's a |
6803s | surprisingly big Tempo match up the |
6805s | mirror you don't have time to mess |
6807s | around and wait for C you just got to |
6808s | hit him with the |
6810s | stuff oh Blessing of Kings see that's |
6813s | how Tempo he pocket sees |
6818s | it oh my |
6823s | goodness it's one of those double |
6828s | whammies now he's established the |
6830s | keyboard the blessing oh TJ oh yeah oh |
6833s | it's juice look at all this |
6836s | stuff oh it's so good gets out of um |
6841s | creation range this needs to be good o |
6848s | Vis Vis I think you're |
6852s | fine Vis excuse me you okay yeah that's |
6857s | better |
6859s | ha what what do you Raven calls it by |
6863s | age I don't |
6864s | know yeah something like |
6867s | that he's just jamming his turns holy |
6871s | moly here's my stuff I'm going to hit |
6873s | you with it because I've got the bird to |
6874s | finish it off this is how the mirror |
6876s | goes again Sith what's a cth you just |
6879s | just just make things they are going to |
6881s | get unmade though for the large |
6884s | part |
6885s | yep o i Mana away from being able to do |
6889s | cool stuff |
6892s | oh uh too |
6894s | late I think you take |
6900s | equality puts everything in ping |
6908s | range but getting into burn range there |
6911s | is no armor gain for re in hand at the |
6916s | moment all this power is mine to me well |
6920s | Cold |
6922s | Case apart from the cold case this is |
6924s | what I was looking for and just didn't |
6925s | see as it was hidden there behind all |
6927s | the other cards |
6929s | obviously it's my |
6932s | excuse and it's a good one I don't think |
6935s | it is stick to it I'm sticking to it |
6937s | anyway but I don't think it is so what |
6939s | we got here weapon |
6941s | equality Cold Case and just work out do |
6944s | you want to one one from the equality or |
6945s | do you not want to one one from the |
6946s | equality that's what comes to mind to do |
6953s | I don't think you |
6954s | do because you're getting um Inquisitor |
6957s | or or creation I mean or because it's |
6961s | just a one one and it's |
6962s | rubbish because it's a one- one and it's |
6964s | rubbish |
6966s | okay I wonder sounds so unnatural say |
6970s | rubbish don't like it it's |
6977s | icky still have your seven seven next |
6979s | turn |
6982s | next I said next turn is if there's |
6984s | going to be one that was clever wasn't |
6988s | it I |
6993s | was it's got to move though he really |
7003s | has yep he agrees with you one one's a |
7005s | rubbish they're not good they're not |
7007s | they're not what you desire to have |
7010s | yep a decent swing but pocket Train's |
7013s | got uh answers lined up his own in |
7016s | inquisitive |
7019s | creation actually just rip an elemental |
7021s | inspiration off the top that sounds good |
7023s | too yeah chip another |
7032s | one |
7034s | uh I think he just got he's got to just |
7037s | do his |
7038s | own uh |
7042s | tra go like double go four4 trade then a |
7045s | Skelly |
7047s | trade uh what was it how many is it four |
7051s | three ah no I was going to go |
7056s | [Music] |
7061s | reeverb what do you even do what to do |
7065s | what to do I think it's |
7068s | three |
7080s | good shot another good shot look at them |
7083s | go yeah that was uh quite good actually |
7086s | sharp shooting from the skeletons I |
7087s | think worked out that was his best |
7089s | chance to win as well I don't I think |
7090s | while he got the roles he was looking |
7092s | for I think he looked at the line you |
7094s | were talking about was like okay but do |
7096s | I ever |
7097s | win yeah cuz you then you just get blown |
7099s | out by uh inquisitive |
7102s | creation test counter spell first with a |
7106s | spell that doesn't really matter that |
7114s | much yeah it's a little afterwards after |
7117s | you take it it comes |
7119s | back Bo gets |
7128s | me that one |
7130s | yeah that is the best it's the best one |
7132s | for sure all right now it's got to be |
7135s | Elemental inspiration hope for Rush |
7137s | five okay there's one Rush no |
7143s | taunt no life steal |
7147s | eight will be your salvation so much |
7152s | that's just you are |
7154s | un yeah could do you could do it either |
7156s | way you could use things first and then |
7161s | deal 10 or you can just copy it |
7163s | immediately deal five |
7165s | twice |
7170s | prer 10's more impactful looking isn't |
7172s | it you really blow your opponent out of |
7174s | the |
7175s | [Music] |
7178s | water all right pocket tra one game |
7181s | away from a semi-final against |
7184s | [Music] |
7186s | H that was |
7188s | uh look like re was like on the verge |
7192s | potentially mhm of a comeback just need |
7194s | to stabilize once but Elemental |
7197s | inspiration coming off the top then the |
7199s | norgan on and the reeverb was enough to |
7201s | finish it out could have been a number |
7203s | of burn spells right and even being that |
7206s | low like it's it can be tough right um |
7211s | so was able to get the job done in the |
7215s | mirror had a slight Advantage with the |
7218s | opening hand but fl's hand kind of |
7220s | caught up um it got better it did yeah |
7225s | get getting the weapon as |
7227s | well yeah catching right up but yeah |
7230s | this this ended it who needs Order in |
7231s | the Court when you just get the cards |
7233s | you need in the right order anyway |
7234s | that's that's the best way to do it yep |
7237s | so now only deck remaining for pocket |
7239s | train is going to be the |
7241s | Rogue which we'll see fine is |
7246s | right |
7248s | so has a decent chance obviously two |
7251s | shots of this |
7254s | no which is hard for |
7260s | him necro is probably the scariest deck |
7263s | for me in like a match against a good |
7267s | player like in the hands of a good |
7268s | player cuz there's so many it may seem |
7271s | like this super super oh both players |
7273s | have plus one attack on their turns |
7275s | that's actually really good for wck them |
7277s | yep i' I'd say um because he can clean |
7281s | up like Divine |
7283s | shields uh and you know like two ones he |
7286s | can keep control of the board a little |
7287s | bit better so and Ream's minions are a |
7292s | little bit more durable in the sense |
7293s | that the plus one attack may not matter |
7295s | that much or as much I'd say that uh |
7298s | this slightly favors ream in terms of um |
7303s | the power of this anomaly yeah getting |
7304s | rid a Divine Shield is a big deal I ran |
7306s | some Paladin the other day and whenever |
7308s | this came up I was like okay well |
7310s | that beats me obviously Mech Rog is a |
7312s | bit different to Paladin cuz it C takes |
7314s | you like eight health to take a shield |
7315s | off but even |
7320s | so rest of Ream's hand though hasn't |
7323s | turned out as he would have hoped no no |
7327s | no no |
7333s | [Music] |
7334s | no not particularly |
7338s | good |
7344s | okay not going to use the coin just |
7345s | going to go for Valle in a in a hit here |
7350s | fine with that I was thinking maybe you |
7351s | could just like mine sear and foul leg |
7353s | just to keep the board clean |
7355s | but I think this is |
7359s | fineway the m here next turn if there's |
7361s | only the one magnetic the m still clean |
7363s | the answers or if two mechs are played |
7365s | you could always hero power coin mines |
7367s | here to preserve your position on on the |
7374s | board need something here obviously he |
7376s | has got some sort of play but with a |
7378s | coin but really isn't going oh my |
7385s | goodness and if he doesn't top de |
7386s | something good next turn he's in a lot |
7389s | of trouble I feel yeah |
7392s | well grav digging could do some work but |
7396s | I don't know if there's going to be any |
7397s | trading going on with uh uh with paret |
7400s | train on the other |
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7404s | end stealth first and ask questions |
7406s | later or ask questions now and then |
7408s | stealth up it's hard to |
7410s | know the ongoing debate with this card |
7413s | they go up to six and just get to answer |
7415s | by hero power so if you really want to |
7416s | keep the mech it'd be oh I guess you |
7419s | could trade and then just play the |
7421s | spoter afterwards |
7423s | [Music] |
7428s | yeah |
7432s | right what's he going to be for Ream he |
7433s | needs something to happen |
7438s | here don't keep your to |
7441s | yourself yeah that's an |
7445s | oh |
7447s | okay but now where you kind of want |
7450s | those cards to be |
7453s | played |
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7458s | yeah if this all happened in a different |
7460s | order it' be so different for him |
7465s | but I guess next time you can only play |
7467s | one of them and then the turn after |
7470s | you'd rather have cheap stuff than play |
7471s | another four Mana thing is |
7480s | tough I must |
7483s | consider the Mind here is the big one |
7486s | right like the only real removal options |
7496s | yeah would he remember to |
7501s | swing yeah yeah of course he |
7504s | does okay Shadow word on death is pretty |
7507s | useful sometimes yeah I think this did |
7511s | improve the hand good |
7518s | amount |
7525s | 17 |
7536s | though taking a million next turn from |
7539s | where he's at we can see it's not |
7540s | actually at this exact second that bad |
7542s | although hit will change things don't |
7545s | keep your thoughts to |
7548s | yourself it's all in |
7552s | your yeah just decid I can't just can't |
7555s | get rid of it not going to mess around |
7556s | just going to get what damage I can |
7561s | in trying to race him |
7566s | but not working out too well and he has |
7569s | more on board than pocket train in terms |
7571s | of attack but this Pit Stop will change |
7573s | things |
7578s | up |
7580s | he took that so quick oh my |
7585s | goodness four |
7588s | five |
7591s | damage |
7593s | yeah on board plus an extra |
7597s | nine it's not enough to clear it has to |
7600s | rely on the Mind |
7603s | eater okay |
7607s | well B Spike |
7609s | that's |
7611s | helpful is it it's not no it actually |
7615s | isn't kill it |
7619s | no you bone spike your mind |
7624s | eater um I think you have to don't |
7638s | you |
7639s | yourself no just going to effectively |
7643s | concede and that'll be the end for reim |
7646s | as pocket train takes the |
7648s | series 3 to |
7650s | one and uh that seems to be my |
7654s | experience with these shadow priests |
7656s | it's |
7657s | just it's you have all these expensive |
7660s | cards that have no effect on the board |
7662s | and it's like in the matchups where you |
7664s | just need reactive tools you're only |
7665s | finding proactive tools like that game |
7667s | the game where you only need prodct |
7669s | tools you're only finding the reacted |
7670s | tools so um a a risky bring from reim |
7676s | got him to the quarterfinal so obviously |
7677s | not that risky but wasn't able to go any |
7680s | further as the mech |
7682s | bro is going to take him down in that |
7684s | final game still a good series though uh |
7686s | I like that one very fast paac with some |
7691s | quite aggressive decks like you know |
7693s | above average in terms of how aggressive |
7696s | uh they actually were yeah and pocket |
7700s | train goes on to meet hemlocks and it |
7702s | was pocket train this morning who was S |
7703s | I was asking around a little bit you |
7704s | know things I might have missed and |
7706s | pocket Train's major point to me was do |
7708s | not undersell Hemlock Hemlock is in his |
7711s | third consecutive top eight he's a |
7714s | monster on ladder to play against you |
7716s | know the players are saying they don't |
7717s | like playing against Hemlock because |
7719s | he's just pretty tasty at the game so |
7722s | pocket TR gets to play Hemlock in that |
7724s | semifinal a player that he himself is |
7727s | making sure the cast is hype up so here |
7728s | I am hying up Hemlock Way Hemlock he's |
7731s | he's good Pocky train says so Pocky |
7733s | Train's good as well yeah maybe it's |
7735s | just uh you know Galaxy brain thinking |
7738s | from pocket train he's like well I know |
7739s | I'm going to beat reim and I know |
7740s | Hemlock is going to win the other |
7741s | quarterfinal but I don't actually think |
7743s | Hemlock is that good but I'm going to |
7744s | talk him up just so it's that much more |
7745s | impressive when I beat him in that semi |
7747s | yeah yeah it's like the old pro |
7748s | wrestling thing right you never put your |
7750s | oppon he's so good that if I beat him |
7752s | I'm just the best I'm the sickest if I |
7755s | beat him cuz he's the sickest yeah no I |
7758s | really think that it's a lot of respect |
7760s | for hemlock with the results like that |
7762s | it's got to be um but yeah that match is |
7764s | going to be coming up in two matches |
7766s | from now three matches from now for the |
7768s | first semi-final so that's definitely |
7770s | going to be one uh they want to stick |
7771s | around for but another one you want to |
7773s | stick around for is going to be MC |
7774s | Banner face versus wieku which is going |
7775s | to be our very next quarterfinal uh |
7778s | that's going to be coming up so we are |
7780s | going to have to go to a break before we |
7781s | jump into that one but don't go anywhere |
7783s | more Hearthstone match to fall |
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7787s | action |
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8075s | hello everyone and welcome back to |
8077s | Masters talk fall Championship I'm Raven |
8079s | and joining me for this next match is |
8081s | subtle little bit weird as well feel |
8083s | like I've just joined in halfway through |
8084s | the day as I've sat just been watching |
8086s | the first few matches but what have you |
8088s | made of it so far as we are you know |
8091s | pretty swiftly moving through the single |
8092s | elimination bracket yeah I was tweeting |
8096s | about this to the effect that I think |
8097s | the the top half of the bracket was |
8099s | incredibly stacked with the players who |
8101s | have had the most success at the top top |
8103s | top level like obviously we've talked a |
8105s | lot already about all the players who |
8106s | are being here like these this is the |
8108s | actual undeniable cream of the most |
8111s | committed most talented Hearthstone |
8112s | players that we have available to us |
8114s | this year but I really think that top |
8116s | four if you look like levik already |
8117s | going to world |
8118s | uh Hemlock consistently making it to top |
8121s | eight pocket train consistently making |
8122s | it to top eight uh Rec vam uh as well in |
8126s | that mix so those first two I kind of |
8128s | tweeted about them both to the same |
8129s | effect of like you're going to watch two |
8131s | incredibly high level Hearthstone series |
8133s | here like the highest level of play that |
8135s | we kind of have available to us at the |
8136s | moment and uh no great surprise really |
8139s | if we're going to sort of talk about who |
8141s | we're expecting to Edge that to see |
8142s | Hemlock and pocket train just getting |
8144s | the |
8145s | edge yeah it's uh it's pretty impressive |
8148s | here we've got MC Banner versus Wu |
8150s | coming up so we can just check out who |
8152s | we are or or what we're going to see |
8154s | coming up in this one to No One surprise |
8156s | SLE we're having a Warriors baned out |
8158s | I'm sensing a theme continuing on |
8161s | through today too as we saw I think I |
8163s | was looking at some of the stats uh from |
8165s | day one and when Warrior got to play it |
8167s | was incredibly High win rate so I think |
8170s | everyone's you know got the gist of it |
8172s | now but check out mcbf face a player |
8175s | you've been a fan of for quite a while |
8177s | so yeah um a player who I have always |
8180s | acknowledged the greatness of I've been |
8182s | on the mcbf face hype train uh since the |
8185s | very beginning no a little being |
8187s | factious you know I had my doubts about |
8189s | banter as a player he kind of came in in |
8190s | that new wave of America's players that |
8194s | um tried to take over and eventually did |
8196s | so successfully from the likes of |
8199s | firebat Muzzy just sayyan right like |
8201s | that level of of OG America's |
8203s | Hearthstone player and then we were like |
8205s | okay who's the next era and then bace |
8207s | kind of got to mix it with with some of |
8208s | those in Grand Masters and I think I was |
8210s | a little dismissive of his level for uh |
8212s | quite some time but now absolutely I |
8214s | think he is perhaps the best player in |
8216s | the Americas overall in in Hearthstone |
8218s | so uh is here absolutely on Merit yeah |
8222s | we'll be checking out his Rogue that's |
8223s | going to be coming up we've seen Mech |
8225s | Rogue have and Rogue in general honestly |
8227s | have a good amount of success over the |
8229s | weekend so far uh at this point sot all |
8232s | after seeing you know everything that's |
8234s | happened all the lineups the players |
8235s | have brought would you have gone for |
8237s | Mech Rogue would you have gone for you |
8239s | know let's say secret concoction however |
8241s | you want to name that list yeah meog was |
8245s | uh in my lineup in fact I think banter |
8247s | face has my lineup yeah this well |
8249s | actually both he stole it hang on yeah |
8251s | yeah I talk about this a lot but |
8252s | generally I do like to just you |
8254s | hypothetically build a lineup before a |
8256s | tournament just sort of helps me get |
8258s | into that player mindset a little bit um |
8260s | and yeah Meg Rogue rainbow Mage and |
8262s | ancient Shaman Odin Warrior is kind of |
8264s | what I came in up with coming into this |
8266s | so um happy to see that multiple players |
8268s | have gone with that as well but I do |
8270s | think Mech Rogue had the potential to be |
8272s | a bit of a sleeper deck and I think you |
8273s | can still kind of put it in that |
8275s | category because a lot of other players |
8276s | went for uh secret Rogues and Casey had |
8279s | the miracle Rogue as well so even though |
8281s | Rogue was very popular it wasn't super |
8283s | dominated by Mech Rogue overall but to |
8285s | me this was a real eye opener because |
8289s | you know you you lose prism breaker you |
8291s | lose yog those were kind of the only |
8293s | things stopping those absolutely |
8296s | degenerate Mech boards that you can |
8298s | throw down very early yeah and we've |
8299s | already seen it this weekend sort of |
8301s | recover from not the best openings in |
8303s | the world but mcbf face wants to |
8305s | continue on throughout this tournament |
8307s | he's going to have to take down wiu |
8309s | another extremely strong player |
8312s | definitely one of the uh I guess newer |
8314s | players we've got to see you know time |
8316s | after time in the past year or um of |
8319s | course but still very impressive |
8320s | nonetheless also bringing the mech Rogue |
8324s | and and pretty much rocking the exact |
8326s | same lineup so again kind of what you |
8328s | were just saying subtle where like this |
8330s | lineup of Odin Warrior Shaman rainbow |
8332s | Mage and Mech Rogue seems to be the one |
8334s | that's getting the most work done |
8338s | overall yeah I would say so and I think |
8341s | um there are possibly still some |
8342s | improvements that could be made to this |
8344s | with the benefit of |
8346s | hindsight um not necessarily everything |
8348s | has gone flying through with awesome win |
8350s | rates I think Sharman is still a little |
8354s | questionable it's picked up uh back to |
8356s | around a 46% win rate over over all but |
8358s | um this is kind of the deck that was a |
8360s | little bit awkward overall but I think |
8363s | it is it's also the deck with um a lot |
8366s | of agency to it it's a deck where player |
8369s | mistakes can cost you win rate a lot a |
8372s | lot more obviously and readily than |
8373s | maybe it can with a couple of the other |
8375s | decks in this lineup in particular um so |
8377s | we'll we'll wait to see where things pan |
8379s | out when we get to the very end but |
8380s | honestly we're uh we're running out of |
8382s | time for the sample size to be affected |
8384s | with the number of games that we have |
8385s | left as we are really getting into the |
8387s | the meat and potatoes at this tournament |
8389s | now yeah so after just checking out some |
8391s | of those lists and talking a lot about |
8392s | the lineups H do we think that the the |
8395s | shaman win is the win to look for in |
8398s | this pretty much you know mirror match |
8399s | cuz I think we both agree you'd be |
8401s | fairly confident that Mage is getting |
8402s | over the line we've seen it time and |
8404s | time again this weekend uh and again |
8406s | Rogue has been performing well so is it |
8408s | Shaman is that the one we really need to |
8410s | laser focus on I think so yeah I think |
8413s | you know Warrior Warrior speaks for |
8415s | itself it's getting banned in this |
8416s | series 70% ban rate and then when it |
8418s | gets to play it still has close to a 60% |
8421s | win rate right so that goes to show you |
8423s | where that deck is positioned uh but |
8426s | because of the nature of the other Decks |
8428s | that are doing well um the Rogues and |
8430s | the Mages uh for example there's a lot |
8433s | of decks that get on board very very |
8435s | quickly and that's what can be a |
8437s | struggle for Shaman to deal with in |
8439s | particular if you can put pressure on |
8441s | Shaman to the point where they have to |
8443s | start throwing out like a a crash to AOE |
8446s | your board without really doing |
8447s | significant damage to face that can |
8449s | leave them really wanting in terms of |
8451s | actually ending the game and that's what |
8452s | a lot of these board Focus decks are |
8454s | really able to do with the amount of |
8456s | pressure they can put on early so I |
8457s | think that's why we're seeing Shaman |
8459s | just struggle that little bit but we |
8460s | have also seen the likes of pocket train |
8464s | really really finding those spots to |
8465s | just say actually no you're not going to |
8468s | put me in a defensive mindset I'm just |
8470s | going to sneak this lethal through that |
8471s | you're not going to be able to spot and |
8473s | really turn the tides uh pun intended so |
8476s | we'll see how it turns out well as game |
8478s | one between these two players begins we |
8480s | are going to see Wu on that Shaman so |
8483s | again a win would be huge for him here |
8484s | just to really Propel him into a favored |
8488s | uh situation in this series but of |
8490s | course M banter face with a pretty good |
8492s | opening with this Mech Rogue had the one |
8495s | drop and then has the spider sort of |
8496s | lurking in the hand for a little bit |
8498s | later on H maybe even not that later on |
8500s | with the coin actually so really good |
8502s | opening here I think for MCB face |
8504s | missing some of the spark Bots for now |
8507s | but not looking too bad at |
8510s | all oh options |
8513s | options yeah lowkey really important |
8515s | taor totem here |
8517s | because coin stealth is an option for |
8520s | banter um and if you want to do that |
8523s | you'd have to attack with your minion |
8524s | first to retain the stealth afterwards |
8526s | if you wanted to gain the benefits of |
8527s | the stealth of course that now makes it |
8529s | incredibly awkward because then You' |
8530s | have still have a taunt totem to deal |
8532s | with next turn with your magnetic minion |
8534s | wanting to go face which makes life a |
8536s | bit difficult |
8538s | um the alternative players just play Two |
8539s | Three on curve this turn but you know |
8541s | that goes straight oh it's a 3 four oh |
8543s | let me let me let me wind it all back uh |
8546s | not knowing where the click clocker |
8547s | landed I was assuming that was a two |
8549s | three uh which makes it very very |
8551s | awkward just going into jazz base on |
8552s | curve which is what the shaman very very |
8554s | often wants to do but since it comes |
8555s | down as a three four here I actually |
8557s | love this play it's just so annoying and |
8560s | disruptive for wiq to have to deal with |
8562s | if he wants to play jazz base we were |
8564s | both living in the same world there |
8565s | because I was like oh it would be nice |
8567s | if could get that inventor Matic just |
8569s | down right and just have it at least for |
8570s | one turn and really gain some kind of |
8572s | benefit but we can see that and and |
8574s | obviously ban Fates knows Shaman has a |
8576s | good sort of widespread of removal that |
8578s | could just get rid of it but you're |
8580s | completely right as a 34 probably just |
8583s | the best singular outcome for that |
8585s | situation from a banit face because now |
8588s | you know questions can really start to |
8590s | be asked in where does bace put these |
8592s | stats and also just how hard does he |
8594s | choose to push and this is a small |
8596s | detail it's not like a massively |
8598s | impressive thing for a player at this |
8599s | level to get right but I just want to |
8601s | point it out wi holding on to the first |
8603s | charge of this Jazz base I think way too |
8606s | many people just put the Jazz base on |
8608s | and go oh the point of this weapon is |
8610s | for me to use both charges of it I want |
8612s | to get it down to the second charge as |
8613s | quickly as possible no in a lot of |
8615s | matchups you still want to use both |
8617s | charges very effectively as a fiery |
8620s | warax right like we don't have two Mana |
8623s | fiery War axes in the game for a reason |
8625s | now right so the fact you can play a |
8626s | three Mana FY warx with this much upside |
8629s | yes get those uses out of the swings |
8631s | don't just throw away the first one for |
8633s | sure and look at this now really uh well |
8635s | dealt with here gets the piranha and the |
8637s | weapon swing to finish this off but also |
8639s | gets hold of a hex which is going to be |
8642s | potentially like super important in this |
8645s | matchup first huge minion problem dealt |
8648s | with and this uh this Divine Shield |
8651s | might not actually be a big deal if if |
8653s | hex can just get sent its way if it's |
8655s | not stealth then Wu's kind of sitting in |
8658s | a good spot even though his health is |
8660s | relatively low for turn four I think it |
8662s | might well end up being stealth though |
8665s | because you know the pool of cards that |
8668s | that card has been discovered from right |
8669s | and it's not just hex that would punish |
8671s | you it's also potentially just altered |
8673s | cord right because you know there's |
8674s | piranhas to bump The Shield uh and then |
8677s | altered cord be able to make a mess is |
8679s | it stealth this turn though because this |
8682s | hand doesn't scream to turn lethal to |
8685s | me true you do actually with the double |
8688s | coin um picked up from the the squirrel |
8691s | on the previous turn you can actually |
8694s | make a big enough minion that you would |
8696s | be resistant to aled cord and it would |
8698s | only be the hex that ends up punishing |
8700s | you so there might actually be a |
8701s | temptation to just ignore the stealth |
8703s | part and just get all the damage face |
8705s | but you can also use that as a mimon |
8708s | setup which it looks like what banter is |
8710s | going to go for here yeah I like this a |
8712s | lot because again if you wanted to |
8713s | retain the stealth you can't attack oh |
8715s | sorry you you would push one let's say |
8718s | um and and then like is that really |
8720s | setting up enough anyway so I actually |
8722s | really like this uh sort of slight pivot |
8724s | from McAn here because I think this just |
8726s | ticks all the boxes resistant to options |
8729s | your opponent may have whilst also |
8732s | giving you Progressive ways to actually |
8734s | win the game as opposed to this is |
8736s | stealth this turn I hope I draw a high |
8739s | damage magnetic thing right and hope |
8742s | that's going to work whereas this seems |
8743s | a lot safer for me final choice you |
8746s | could put into the mix I'm not not |
8747s | advocating for this I don't think it was |
8748s | right but if you want to give credit for |
8750s | that card uh the hex card that we've |
8752s | been talking about if banter wants to |
8753s | say Hey what if that's primordial wave |
8755s | you could have actually played this out |
8757s | as just straight up three separate |
8758s | minions this turn right and just have |
8760s | the the biggest spread but I don't think |
8762s | that was really worth going |
8766s | for feral spirit always looks appealing |
8770s | against Mech Rog as just some speed |
8771s | bumps to get in the |
8775s | way lightning Bol always looks appealing |
8778s | because face |
8781s | but going to go for overdraft |
8786s | okay I mean this definitely helps open |
8789s | up mana for the following turn but I was |
8791s | kind of surprised the plan wasn't even |
8792s | potentially just feral |
8806s | feral |
8809s | B face now has to try and break down as |
8811s | to whether he can get through these |
8813s | taunts in a an efficient way whilst |
8815s | again kind of protecting what he can we |
8818s | know that there's just a hex sitting |
8819s | there ready for anything big so do you |
8821s | think there's Merit or do you think MCB |
8823s | phase will actually try and spread stats |
8826s | or try and build a wider board as |
8828s | opposed to the single Target Allin kind |
8830s | of uh strategy we've seen quite often |
8832s | from me Rogue POS very possibly yeah |
8835s | because again you're starting to |
8837s | look at the PO of cards that this |
8839s | discovered option can be to and the |
8841s | reason I'm focusing on this so much by |
8842s | the way is that when you start making |
8844s | like 10 Health Plus Mech the cards in |
8847s | charman's deck don't really exist to |
8850s | deal with that it is the discovered |
8851s | options from lightning reflexes a lot of |
8853s | the time they end up punishing you um so |
8855s | I think you're relatively confident at |
8857s | this point that you're not going to be |
8859s | dealing with primordial wave for example |
8861s | cuz I think you would have seen that on |
8862s | the previous turn if that was the case |
8864s | to deal with the mimon for sure to deal |
8865s | with the mimon yeah so I think think hex |
8867s | is certainly something that you have to |
8869s | consider at this |
8871s | time and this is a nice bonus as well |
8873s | like the stomper coming out it it |
8876s | doesn't scream game-winning but at least |
8879s | the benefit we can see is if hex has to |
8881s | be played that's all that's getting |
8883s | played so it would have to you know a |
8885s | lot of Trades would would go down and |
8887s | still leave mcbf face with something on |
8889s | the board um unless I'm missing |
8891s | something but yeah I feel like that's |
8893s | quite likely and I think that's a card |
8894s | that you also want to get value out of |
8897s | um because it was on the far left of |
8898s | your hand before you start doing your |
8900s | gear shift turn right like it's a very |
8902s | very good card in the matchup so even if |
8904s | it's not going to be the optimal turn to |
8906s | play it you want a turn to play it |
8908s | before you refill with that later ex it |
8911s | always does something as opposed to yeah |
8913s | sometimes it just wins you the game on |
8914s | the right turn but it always does |
8916s | something good and bface is going to get |
8918s | that knowledge now see the hex and at |
8920s | least can take off that box say okay |
8923s | there's the one the Discover Cards |
8926s | gone |
8929s | yeah and I was trying to look for a |
8931s | reaction from banter just to try and see |
8933s | if he could pick up on whether that was |
8934s | something that he had been planning for |
8936s | but um you know in a typical banter |
8939s | fashion not giving an awful lot away |
8941s | with the facial |
8946s | expression looks like a gear shift turn |
8949s | to |
8952s | me toys are much more fun |
8956s | to |
8970s | and the thing you got to remember as |
8971s | well is like weq had a really good ter |
8974s | with that hex for sure but he isn't out |
8977s | the woods yet by any means because but |
8980s | we we've seen Rogue just get the job |
8982s | done time and time again and we could |
8984s | yeah can build a board has another base |
8987s | as well has some card draw but that's |
8989s | all got to be done without overloading |
8991s | too much without leaving some sort of |
8992s | awkward room here the BF actually going |
8995s | to go a little bit wide with these mechs |
8996s | now drop the reborn spark bot and then |
8999s | yeah lock in that gear shift to No |
9000s | Surprise and tidy up some of this |
9002s | board oh another |
9006s | stomper yeah second stomper is very nice |
9009s | I think the big decisions that turn from |
9011s | banter were just a how high he wanted to |
9014s | stack the magnetics and then B whether |
9017s | the spark bot for example was worth |
9019s | playing or whether having two Mana |
9021s | remaining instead of one after the prep |
9023s | gear shift was important for for |
9024s | anything that he could draw but I think |
9026s | since it was a relatively High stated |
9028s | vanilla minion that he was dropping the |
9030s | reborn on I do think this makes a lot of |
9032s | sense yeah and it's just the extra |
9034s | question cuz if something can be |
9036s | magnetized on the start of the next turn |
9038s | right um you're really in a a good |
9045s | spot well I was going to say this is a |
9047s | hand that is a long way away from really |
9049s | being able to turn the turn the corner |
9051s | and do something aggressive but if |
9053s | you're going to draw two cards that |
9054s | allow you to start thinking about that |
9056s | in the near |
9058s | future oh there's |
9062s | crash yeah you've always got to have at |
9064s | least an eyeball on conductivity though |
9066s | it can allow you to do some very very |
9068s | degenerate |
9073s | things the storm is in me |
9077s | it's going to be uh that overdraft that |
9080s | was picked up earlier on going to pay |
9081s | off quite a lot here going to clear up |
9083s | all of that overload for next turn not |
9086s | too shabby at all yeah and |
9088s | simultaneously able to take care of the |
9092s | full bronze gatekeeper with the reborn |
9094s | as |
9095s | well the interesting Factor here for me |
9098s | is this second speaker stomper like is |
9100s | there room to deal with enough of this |
9103s | board and play the stomper and |
9107s | threaten lethal enough with having that |
9109s | speaker stumper down I think so right |
9111s | it's I think with with the bone Spike |
9114s | pretty perfect with the bone Spike and |
9116s | the bronze gatekeeper right just take |
9117s | out the two taunts and then you can |
9119s | think about you know cuz you're playing |
9120s | speaker stomper you might even just get |
9122s | to push face at that point and just say |
9123s | that's fine have your plus two spell |
9125s | damage I'm not super worried about |
9131s | it it's really tricky isn't it |
9135s | because if you make |
9137s | more trades that's fine but then you |
9140s | further away but you are playing around |
9142s | just leaving that spell damage on you |
9144s | know even if there's just any even like |
9146s | a a normal crash or something right just |
9149s | something to to deal any kind of AOE |
9151s | damage mhm it looks like it is going to |
9154s | be respect given to the |
9157s | zappers he going to trade down |
9160s | instead and I think if you're not making |
9163s | the push here to be as aggressive as |
9164s | possible it's not speaker side time |
9167s | either yeah |
9172s | agree now is this going to be primordial |
9176s | just to again switch off or hopefully |
9179s | for wiq uh switch this problem off in |
9182s | terms of stealth minion I mean as nice |
9184s | as that Mech is it is all stacked on a |
9186s | one drop so it is hard to imagine a |
9189s | better Target for your primordial way |
9191s | and there's just a fish as well if you |
9192s | really want to save the |
9195s | Spells |
9212s | while stealth it cannot |
9216s | torn is there something that banf can |
9219s | like realistically draw with the |
9221s | knowledge we have of this primordial |
9223s | that's going to pull him back into this |
9224s | game or do you think wiu sort of you |
9227s | know managed to get over the hill at |
9228s | this |
9230s | point I mean it's very very hard for |
9235s | mecro I mean I was going to lead the |
9237s | sentence was going to lead towards Titan |
9239s | um but it's very very hard for mecr to |
9242s | do any sort of damage from hand while |
9245s | out of cards uh sorry when when off |
9247s | board it's just not really a thing that |
9248s | they excel at doing |
9252s | um part of my eyes lighting up at |
9255s | pushing a little bit of damage on the |
9257s | previous turn is then at least you can |
9258s | start thinking about like crab a to off |
9260s | the top it pushes a little bit of damage |
9262s | with the weapons and then maybe you can |
9264s | scrape over the line um but I think |
9266s | there's some cast Vision involved in |
9268s | that where I could see that the board |
9270s | was going byby no no matter what banter |
9273s | did because of that primordial wave that |
9274s | was available and then the Piranhas that |
9277s | could come down to clear it up at the |
9278s | end uh I think what banter did made the |
9281s | most sense in a vacuum um but I think |
9285s | this was the best draw in Ban's deck and |
9287s | it's still not particularly good enough |
9289s | you can see just from Ban's reaction |
9292s | right it's kind of just like eh right |
9295s | what has to happen for this to be okay |
9297s | sure I'll you know obviously B is not |
9300s | going to just concede at this point in |
9303s | the game especially uh with the Voltron |
9305s | draw |
9307s | but it's looking a little bit dicey |
9312s | mhm |
9314s | oh that's a good draw |
9318s | sure |
9322s | is now the real |
9325s | question is this play everything in go |
9332s | face oh are you respecting the minions |
9335s | and just lightning bolting them |
9341s | away this it's a real tricky decision |
9345s | right |
9349s | it is Voltron is very scary to leave |
9352s | alive especially when your opponent has |
9355s | not played their any yet correct is |
9358s | still remaining in the de what about can |
9361s | I interest you in half kill the vultra |
9363s | and leave the little |
9367s | flipper I'm just I I don't know if I can |
9369s | look at the screen while light two |
9371s | lightning bolts go to minions oh you |
9373s | don't have the lightning bolt that I |
9374s | mean you can just weapon the penguin |
9376s | okay I'm also okay with this yeah I |
9380s | think it's just too clean right like |
9381s | your the natural play which will play |
9383s | all of the cards in your hand gives you |
9385s | a six damage lightning bolt so I think |
9387s | at that point it would be fairly |
9388s | irresponsible to leave the Voltron alive |
9391s | but you know |
9392s | me I'm a deeply irresponsible person at |
9396s | least I know |
9398s | it and now bner face has to just try and |
9402s | fight back on this board weirdly enough |
9404s | the player on barely any health is the |
9406s | one very ahead right |
9409s | now yep get some eviscerates in your |
9413s | rogue deck that's what I say no |
9416s | I'm is there a world where MC Banner |
9419s | actually |
9420s | like ever passes this turn oh it's going |
9424s | to trade the stomper okay I didn't know |
9425s | if he wanted to keep the stomper but |
9429s | sure I was wonder if he like could trade |
9431s | H sorry could wait one turn and then |
9434s | likely draw a Mech then go with the |
9436s | spark Bots and then play stomper you |
9438s | know next turn try and like package all |
9440s | of that together it's maybe a long shot |
9443s | but I feel like Banner needs a long shot |
9445s | to work here and I'm not sure if the |
9447s | tradeable was I mean I'd have to look |
9450s | but I don't know how likely that was to |
9452s | hit something high impact this turn or |
9455s | more high impact than a stomper |
9459s | right and with seeing all that damage |
9461s | and all those cards played out like if I |
9463s | was banner I would assume I had the time |
9468s | yeah I don't think you're necessarily |
9469s | expecting to die next turn right cuz |
9473s | like this board just already doesn't |
9476s | exist right yeah but I think I think you |
9479s | can flip that on his head right I think |
9481s | from banter side if you can say okay |
9483s | I'll play these cards they trade |
9485s | relatively one for one with my |
9486s | opponent's board if it come comes down |
9489s | to an empty is board and both players |
9491s | top decking I like the Rogue in that |
9495s | situation |
9497s | okay maybe we just disagree then that's |
9499s | fair I'm just looking at the weapon and |
9502s | thinking well that weapon swing already |
9504s | leaves weu ahead yeah I mean that's |
9507s | that's |
9510s | fair it's very close though I'm not I'm |
9512s | definitely not saying it's it's you know |
9515s | the the the the risk factor of well what |
9517s | if the next troll was a 2-1 for Banner |
9519s | pH then then he basically passed a turn |
9521s | for nothing right that's the downside of |
9524s | my suggestion for sure yep |
9527s | I think there's any great Merit to just |
9529s | not being a card deeper in your deck |
9531s | right but I do think like maybe even |
9533s | after the tradeable you see your next |
9534s | card and you start to think about okay |
9536s | what if I just hold on to these four one |
9538s | Mana cards well one of them cost zero |
9540s | because of the effect of the the one |
9542s | drop um and then just like pray for in |
9545s | next turn and then I can do all of that |
9547s | in in one turn arguably like there's |
9549s | there's some options for sure cuz it's |
9552s | like any this crab a towerer mhm but |
9555s | outside of that I wouldn't say there's |
9557s | like a card hey there you go |
9562s | see like I I think bant is just simply |
9566s | ahead now right yes this is very |
9569s | scary oh |
9573s | my working out whether he wants to like |
9577s | where he wants to face trade because he |
9580s | has krabat TOA to deal six right so he |
9583s | doesn't |
9585s | like |
9587s | [Music] |
9589s | H he could throw away a weapon charge to |
9594s | take one instead of two I guess that's |
9596s | the decision right now right |
9599s | yeah there's uh there's still this guy |
9601s | that you've got to think about as well |
9603s | though |
9604s | right good old Big Goal pretty big |
9607s | problem if that comes out and you're |
9608s | suddenly healing for six |
9611s | yeah but the krabat toe is pretty |
9614s | resilient from a top deck right yes from |
9617s | from Wu that is fairly resilient right |
9619s | now I think weirdly enough taunt totem |
9621s | is the scariest thing for weu to do next |
9626s | turn going take the two going to lock in |
9628s | the weapon that gives him ways for taunt |
9630s | totem but there's flash of lightning |
9632s | Okay go |
9634s | again turn oh it's going to be ta totem |
9639s | oh no it's not it doesn't matter yeah oh |
9642s | wow I look at B's face that is also my |
9645s | face face and I'm not even |
9650s | playing like obviously turn the tides |
9652s | technically clears the 65 but you just |
9654s | can't do it you're just not allowed to |
9655s | face tank it yep there it is that game |
9659s | was a roller coaster and honestly |
9661s | correct me if I'm wrong sole but I think |
9663s | mcbf face will be very happy with the |
9666s | outcome of that one because I'm pretty |
9668s | sure he was thinking right well there |
9670s | goes game one I'll have to deal with it |
9672s | all in game two but yeah starts to Ser |
9674s | he's off with a win so two points |
9677s | firstly you know that that game was |
9679s | crazy because uh banter Face's |
9682s | expression changed like 14 times towards |
9684s | the end which I think is some sort of |
9686s | world record just going to say changed |
9688s | changed full stop yeah um also just but |
9692s | just following up on what you said at |
9693s | the end like I think banter is |
9695s | experienced enough and will have played |
9696s | that match up enough times to know that |
9698s | it's not over right like when the the |
9701s | the biggest problem that Shaman has is |
9705s | uh being being low on cards if it's low |
9707s | on cards it can't really do anything to |
9710s | you right it really really does rely on |
9713s | big big combinations so when it comes |
9715s | down to this kind of top deck War I do |
9717s | think that's where banf Face's head was |
9719s | at it's like okay let's let me find a |
9722s | situation where we both play the |
9724s | remaining cards in our hand and we're |
9726s | both still alive and playing Hearthstone |
9728s | and I think if he can get himself to |
9730s | that position all he needed to do was |
9732s | draw krabat TOA and yes he got lucky in |
9734s | order to do that immediately with the |
9736s | very first draw after he got down to |
9737s | that point but it's in there and there |
9740s | are other cards in there that are card |
9741s | draw that can find can get him to that |
9743s | point so I think he would have been you |
9746s | know feeling unfavored but certainly not |
9748s | abandoning the game sure and I I I could |
9751s | sorry I could just imagine the chat now |
9753s | after you uttering the word is well all |
9755s | I needed to do was draw this exact one |
9758s | card Drew uh but yeah I think kbor was |
9761s | of course the uh the the key to Victory |
9764s | there for MCB face but like I said just |
9766s | a fantastic start because even if he |
9770s | wasn't expecting to just straight up |
9771s | lose it was not an overly uh comfortable |
9774s | game of hearthstone let's say so we're |
9776s | going to jump straight into game two and |
9778s | we're going to have the Mage mirror SLE |
9780s | M banter face is currently leading the |
9782s | match one Z and there's the uh I guess |
9785s | signature opening of whatever keyboard |
9788s | and then no doubt a cold K is coming up |
9789s | soon uh weq though is H really looking |
9792s | to make a big stride forward getting a |
9794s | win on the board here in the mdle |
9797s | match forget about Cold Case we're |
9799s | hitting something even better than Cold |
9801s | Case from this Prismatic Elemental |
9803s | that's what's Happening |
9807s | Here have we had any uh love everlasting |
9809s | Mage games yet this uh this tournament I |
9812s | don't remember any I don't think so okay |
9815s | but I still remember the first time I |
9817s | did that and I was like how is this |
9819s | allowed I know I honestly was like wait |
9823s | why aren't more people talking about |
9825s | this yeah obviously like if if it was |
9826s | from like discover a spell right it'd be |
9828s | really rare and it wouldn't happen that |
9830s | particularly often but because you can |
9832s | curate a pull down to okay I'm going to |
9835s | three see three spells and one of them |
9837s | is going to be a holy spell like it |
9840s | happens a lot |
9841s | yeah oh yeah got some of that strangle |
9844s | Thorn Heart On The |
9845s | Go bellowing Flames it deals 10 no one |
9849s | knows |
9850s | why not even the devs Noe think it was a |
9854s | code in error too embarrassed to change |
9855s | it now |
9858s | what do you mean you put it in in |
9861s | binary Cosmic keyboard coming down no |
9864s | for MCB face I think uh looking at just |
9866s | the straightforward turns one and twos |
9868s | from both players I think I'd rather |
9869s | have a keyboard than the elemental right |
9873s | now |
9875s | [Music] |
9878s | same |
9884s | okay yeah up Forge the |
9891s | Flames now obviously your opponent |
9893s | having the keyboard coin Co start is the |
9897s | nuts but if you're going to want |
9898s | anything in response to that it's a card |
9900s | that deals |
9902s | 10 for two man for some |
9906s | reason uh I think you'll find it's four |
9909s | because you have to forge it yes yeah |
9914s | yeah |
9919s | I'm enjoying this uh hopefully this |
9921s | continues with this new extra way we |
9923s | describe cards now is just this card |
9925s | costs this much and Deals this much |
9928s | damage it's just like how we've |
9929s | described minions for the past five or |
9931s | six years I've called it bellowing |
9933s | Flames at least twice already I don't |
9934s | know what more you want from me |
9944s | Raven |
9950s | wait where did the other one go oh the |
9951s | creation okay I didn't even see the |
9952s | other one go off yeah yeah it just |
9955s | didn't really have an animation that did |
9956s | it it was just like you are now |
9962s | too inro to Fallout |
9966s | three about as good as it's going to get |
9969s | here for weu with the board clear |
9971s | because this is the situation I feel in |
9972s | the mirror where you do start to slip if |
9974s | you're in in you know on weu side of the |
9976s | board here um but as you mentioned |
9979s | dealing 10 is quite good and clearing up |
9981s | a lot of the board |
9983s | but this is going to get him back into |
9986s | it a little bit because otherwise I feel |
9987s | like you just taken too much damage and |
9989s | then suddenly you're just going to burn |
9990s | out pretty quick yeah |
9992s | agreed needed a card of significant |
9995s | power level to be able to swing back |
9997s | from uh being |
10000s | behind rewind yeah |
10004s | sure |
10006s | okay I'll take a free m y I mean fine |
10012s | yeah is it worth doing |
10014s | a like killing the two two just to get |
10016s | the |
10020s | infinitize killing the 2 two just to get |
10023s | the infinite Oh you mean Arcane bolting |
10024s | it yeah yeah yeah sorry yeah bolting |
10027s | mhm problem is that it also eats your |
10030s | last keyboard charge as well right which |
10032s | is a little bit painful yeah I mean this |
10035s | turn |
10037s | instead I was going to say I'm okay with |
10039s | just going artificer and going |
10040s | infinitize I think this is the one I |
10042s | would end up on personally I was |
10044s | wondering whether it was just artificial |
10045s | and Prismatic Elemental and just look |
10047s | for something better to use the last uh |
10049s | the last keyboard charge on but yeah |
10051s | difference is like going for a bigger |
10052s | minion versus just having an extra spell |
10055s | in hand um or at least at least |
10057s | utilizing infinitize is probably more |
10060s | accurate since you get a spell from the |
10061s | elemental |
10064s | anyway |
10069s | I like this as well after billowing |
10070s | flames you building a little bit of a |
10072s | board not overly threatening but again |
10075s | if you take if you manage to deal an |
10076s | extra two three damage here and there |
10078s | that does start to stack up inquisitive |
10080s | creation for Wu is going to be drawn now |
10082s | so that option is there to just clear |
10084s | that up I didn't even look but I'm |
10086s | easily assuming it's more than three |
10088s | right now or at least three should I say |
10091s | yeah Co case and Flames have both been |
10093s | played right so certainly certainly |
10094s | Frost and |
10102s | I was also a wisdom in |
10105s | hand oh sure yeah that that also helps |
10114s | yeah remember the Arcane giant era where |
10117s | there was also yog in the |
10120s | game and people used to say well I mean |
10122s | how am I supposed to know how many |
10124s | spells they've casted like literally |
10125s | tells you just look at that card in |
10127s | their |
10143s | hand this is where things are getting a |
10145s | little bit tricky now and this is where |
10147s | the the the full display of mage skills |
10150s | is going to come into play because these |
10153s | decisions even though they're |
10155s | discovering a spell that they may not |
10157s | use for the next five six turns M |
10160s | getting those choices right I feel makes |
10162s | such a big impact on the game CU at |
10164s | least many times I played I picked a |
10166s | spelling on this will be great later on |
10169s | and then it just never does anything |
10171s | whereas you know picking the right |
10173s | options getting use out of everything |
10174s | you've picked can actually just pull you |
10176s | ahead in the |
10179s | game one situations right where like |
10181s | Reverb is a fantastic card but is it how |
10185s | long is it going to take for that to pay |
10187s | off yeah and sometimes you have to look |
10189s | at situations like this and like solar |
10192s | eclipse is only not broken because the |
10196s | developers get to design the rest of the |
10198s | cards you're supposed to play with solar |
10200s | eclipse in that class right so if you |
10203s | get offered it in a different class |
10204s | you're probably just supposed to take |
10206s | solar eclipse you'll end up doing |
10207s | something broken and also by the way |
10209s | solar eclipse is pretty broken even in |
10211s | Druid anyway oh you know that card |
10214s | that's pretty much been played in every |
10216s | Druid since the cards existed oh yeah |
10218s | pretty |
10221s | good yeah even that option right where |
10224s | MC bface went for solar and you broke |
10226s | down why um but there was could have |
10229s | cleared the board that turn right like |
10231s | that was an option but getting these |
10233s | decisions right really does make the |
10235s | difference especially when you play in |
10236s | the mirror yeah and I think um just |
10239s | breaking down the turn from weu a couple |
10240s | of turns ago cuz we were immediately |
10241s | like okay inquisitive creation just |
10243s | clears the board that looks good um |
10245s | helpfully uh Elemental inspiration has |
10247s | just appeared on our screen and that is |
10249s | a card that you always have to have in |
10250s | the back of your mind so instead of |
10252s | playing the creation on the previous |
10254s | turn uh wiq has gone from a situation |
10256s | where his wisdom of norgon cost three |
10259s | when we were talking about it at the |
10260s | time to where it now cost zero meaning |
10262s | he's cast five different spell scools |
10264s | already up until this point so now |
10266s | having spent the last two turns doing |
10268s | all that and still being sat on that |
10270s | inquisitive creation he can actually |
10272s | respond really really nicely to |
10274s | Elemental inspiration if it comes out on |
10276s | the other side of the |
10281s | board yeah things are going to start |
10283s | heating up now like MC bace can draw 1 |
10285s | million cards if he wants to wiq has got |
10288s | a hold of Sith now so even though he |
10290s | took a bit of a beating early on there's |
10292s | a counter spell to back up sort of at |
10294s | least slow down um at banf face this |
10297s | turn even though we can see it won't |
10299s | really slow much down at all H and and |
10301s | then there is Sith like locked and |
10303s | loaded not quite going to go yet but |
10305s | just having it there is going to be very |
10310s | nice so yeah 2 4 six uh volume up that's |
10315s | nine get solar eclipse in there as well |
10317s | yeah yeah million cards yeah no that's |
10318s | right you're correct I mean come |
10331s | on this is where I would already be |
10333s | stressed if I was M ban face cuz he's |
10335s | obviously sat going through the turn in |
10337s | his head but he's running out of time |
10338s | and he can do a lot of things this time |
10341s | correct yeah so I'm getting I'm already |
10343s | watching this bar timer go down I'm |
10345s | getting more stressed it is a um a drum |
10350s | I've banged a lot over time people like |
10352s | not making the first Fork decision soon |
10355s | enough in their turn so then the quality |
10357s | of the decisions they make later in the |
10358s | turn are worse what I will say is trying |
10361s | to work out what you do about objection |
10364s | counter spell exposive runes etc etc on |
10366s | that ter was a very very difficult first |
10369s | Fork decision but yes I think that is a |
10371s | very valid point to raise that it's kind |
10374s | of this trick of the human brain right |
10375s | of like well I know what this first |
10377s | decision is so I'll take a really really |
10379s | long time to try and work it out but |
10381s | there are there might be five or six |
10382s | other decisions left over the course of |
10384s | the turn that your your brain just |
10385s | doesn't know about you and even now you |
10388s | can see that Banner finished his turn 10 |
10391s | cards maybe that was unavoidable maybe |
10393s | it wasn't but |
10395s | um but still not exactly where he would |
10398s | like to |
10408s | be another counter spell going to be |
10410s | dropped down there for weu I imagine |
10411s | this is going to be |
10414s | traded oh no never mind just going to |
10417s | lock it in yeah I think just doesn't |
10419s | want to spend Mana dealing with the |
10422s | artificer and also wants to be looking |
10425s | very very hard at setting up a lethal on |
10427s | 10 right so doesn't want B to be gaining |
10428s | armor because you now have Forge molten |
10431s | Rune and the Arcane bolt you had a |
10434s | couple of shots from the infinitize to |
10436s | find another one mana burn spell that |
10438s | could fit into that for zero as well |
10440s | yeah and it just locked in holy as well |
10442s | right cuz I don't think that was holy |
10443s | played beforehand so y yeah I mean that |
10446s | that was discovered from History of |
10448s | Magic so right yeah yeah of course yeah |
10450s | yeah so yeah just ticking enough boxes |
10452s | to waren being played there and I guess |
10454s | yeah is that actually what it's called |
10455s | or is that just the Harry Potter class |
10457s | I've just |
10459s | made uh what did you say discovery of |
10462s | magic okay good yeah History of Magic |
10465s | come on Ron we're late for history of |
10468s | magic I mean yeah valid it's Leviosa not |
10473s | Leviosa oh you would you that would be |
10476s | you it would actually just that was a |
10478s | line you would write for that uh |
10483s | film |
10485s | time runs out |
10487s | on and again my banner tons of stuff but |
10492s | getting use of it getting these cards |
10494s | out of hand is just as important as |
10495s | creating them at this point cuz again |
10498s | just another kind of weird situation |
10501s | where |
10503s | the it probably sounds worse than I'm |
10506s | sorry it's probably not as bad as I'm |
10508s | making it sound but it feels like Banner |
10510s | isn't really progressing too |
10512s | much here where is weaky I don't know |
10515s | looks like he's got a really good handle |
10516s | on this game yeah stacking a little bit |
10519s | of armor is giving him really strong |
10520s | defense against the dark arts right now |
10522s | though so that's |
10523s | something |
10526s | reality |
10528s | [Music] |
10534s | Wen fine I guess be like that Raven see |
10539s | if I can what |
10543s | sorry thank you very good very good I |
10546s | see what you did |
10549s | there I was just letting it sit letting |
10552s | it |
10561s | simuns I think nature is the last |
10564s | remaining spell from mhm uh spell score |
10567s | from |
10568s | weq Quick work on the uh the link find |
10573s | like a hex or a primordial wave some |
10575s | sort of transmogrification effect like |
10577s | that maybe oh no RAV I could do this all |
10580s | day okay don't don't challenge me is too |
10583s | full well I was expecting something a |
10585s | bit more natury honestly give me a plant |
10590s | name |
10591s | so I'm doing names of subjects Raven |
10594s | that's the that's the |
10596s | bit yeah you know need nature could have |
10599s | gone with herbology but didn't could |
10600s | have gone with herbology yeah that's a |
10602s | good |
10603s | sh |
10610s | I'm a banner doing the typical thinking |
10613s | pose right |
10616s | now someone quick make a |
10626s | statue the tried and tested Cold Case |
10629s | again gaining more and more armor trying |
10630s | to defend but there gets to a point |
10633s | where |
10635s | you know defending gaining Armor All |
10636s | game isn't really going to cut it and |
10638s | there's still so much that Banner has to |
10640s | drop here because I mean it's I'm not |
10642s | going to lie it's hard to keep track of |
10643s | all the cards in hand but cth is |
10646s | there it's just that there's no bird |
10649s | available yeah and unfortunately for |
10652s | banter this all of this armor is |
10654s | incredibly necessary because uh while |
10657s | I've been messing around with uh with |
10659s | Harry Potter subjects wiq has gathered I |
10661s | did talk about it the uh the extra burn |
10663s | zero Mana picked up from uh from |
10666s | infinitize which can stack in there with |
10668s | the Sif as well has a two Mana molten |
10670s | Rune that can be thrown in as well if |
10672s | you finds one other one mana burn spell |
10674s | for |
10675s | example I do think we need to make it a |
10677s | requirement that all the players play |
10679s | the signature versions of the cards |
10681s | because I'll be honest I didn't notice |
10683s | until just that when I said it that CIF |
10685s | had been in hand from panda face for |
10686s | that long oh really he's not because |
10688s | he's not playing the signature one right |
10689s | so it's like what kind of animal doesn't |
10691s | play signature |
10692s | S I like this choice as well uh burning |
10696s | the |
10697s | Arcane Arcane Bolt from weq just to have |
10700s | an Arcane spell get cast in order to uh |
10702s | set up the lady in order to get the |
10704s | discount on everything else cuz now you |
10706s | can actually cast both of those molten |
10708s | runes both forged in the same turn with |
10711s | cth so you throw away a little bit of |
10712s | damage to gain a lot of damage on the |
10714s | following ter yeah now it's just going |
10716s | to be nice armor friend in the next turn |
10719s | cuz it just probably won't |
10723s | matter |
10731s | banter again just trying to think of a |
10733s | way out of this cuz there's just there's |
10735s | just not much going on there is the uh |
10737s | the solar Cold Case if he just wants to |
10740s | keep going down that road but is it |
10742s | actually going to progress the game plan |
10744s | is it going to get him anywhere three |
10745s | cards left for |
10748s | B yeah that million card that does not |
10751s | show it at all that that million cards |
10754s | that Drew earlier is uh proving to be a |
10756s | little bit of a problem right |
10761s | now all this power is mine |
10774s | to |
10778s | Fireball yeah R because there's Sith |
10781s | solar blast and stuff right like |
10786s | don't think it's going to matter |
10787s | especially with the extra five from |
10789s | having the minion stick on board not |
10791s | that it's going to matter to much as |
10792s | approximately 1 million damage the same |
10795s | amount of cards that M bface Drew he's |
10797s | going to take in damage form right now |
10799s | as weu looks to be in a good position to |
10801s | take game number two and even up this |
10804s | series Yeah clean game in the end I |
10807s | think was behind early certainly was |
10810s | helped relieve a little bit of that |
10811s | early pressure with the bellowing Flames |
10812s | otherwise we might have been just |
10813s | looking at game that panned out entirely |
10816s | differently but I think what w did very |
10818s | very well there is recognize he was |
10821s | heading towards the cth otk and I know |
10824s | that sounds very obvious cuz a lot of |
10826s | people will just look at that and say |
10828s | well it's a cth otk deck that's what it |
10831s | does but it's a very um it's a real |
10834s | Swiss army knife of a deck it can win in |
10836s | a large variety of ways and sometimes |
10838s | you have to identify what that win |
10839s | condition is several turns in advance |
10841s | and step towards it and I think that's |
10843s | what weq did very well from sort of the |
10846s | eight Mana turn up until the turn where |
10848s | banter face actually exploded I think |
10849s | that was all mapped out very very nicely |
10852s | to progress weq down that Garden Path |
10854s | towards the end of the game very nice |
10856s | game yeah and like we said though the |
10858s | Mage taking a win for wiq fantastic the |
10861s | Rogue being on MB side for the win is |
10864s | great but there's still those shamans |
10866s | left over and we said ourselves earlier |
10869s | on the Mages I don't think there's |
10871s | anything too much to worry about banter |
10873s | of course someone had to lose the Mage |
10875s | mirror but if B decides to Q Mage again |
10877s | I think he'd be very confident in any of |
10880s | the matchups that he's got going there |
10881s | so tough one for atand face there trying |
10883s | to deal with uh maybe too many cards in |
10886s | hand and and not getting hold of the |
10887s | actual you know sort of nailed down plan |
10890s | that you really want that for example |
10891s | weu did but still plenty left in this |
10894s | series that we just one and one and if |
10896s | you just joined us recently this is a |
10898s | top eight match single elimination so |
10900s | the loser is going to be done and dusted |
10902s | the winner moves on to that top four so |
10904s | a lot on the line for these players a |
10906s | world a guaranteed World Championship |
10908s | spot is on the line as the one you know |
10911s | the last chance for some of these |
10912s | players uh this weekend so yeah a lot on |
10915s | the line here although I think a fair |
10917s | few of them are pretty doing pretty well |
10919s | on points as well now so that's |
10920s | something we'll have to look at and |
10922s | investigate when the time comes it is a |
10925s | a speed bump for lovers of smooth |
10928s | narratives that players have been |
10930s | incredibly consistent throughout the |
10931s | year not not only in which players have |
10934s | qualified but also which players have |
10936s | made top eights so we've had it through |
10938s | consistently throughout the year that a |
10939s | lot of the players who are in the top |
10941s | eight it's like okay they're playing for |
10942s | a spot of world sure but they're also |
10943s | actually in really good standing overall |
10945s | in terms of the number of points that |
10946s | they have in total so it has made things |
10948s | a little bit awkward in some places um |
10951s | we are now going to see the reverse of |
10953s | the match that we saw previously with |
10955s | banter uh picking up the mantle on the |
10957s | Sharman weu looking to build those early |
10959s | boards on |
10961s | Rogue Wu's opening looks quite good to |
10967s | me would you say like this is the |
10969s | opening is there anything weu is really |
10971s | missing as a macro K that you would swap |
10974s | something for anything for a frequency |
10976s | oscillator uh squirrel on two squirrel |
10979s | on two on the play is what you |
10980s | absolutely want |
10983s | sure not far away though not far away |
10986s | yeah it just means that you kind of have |
10987s | to delay for that extra turn but drone |
10989s | deconstructor is a nice consolation |
10992s | prize right because you can find Stealth |
10995s | you could find Divine shield for example |
10996s | if your one drop wasn't click clocker |
10998s | and already had the Divine Shield you |
10999s | can find ways to consolidate that board |
11003s | and try and protect yourself from the |
11004s | coppertail Snoop which will start to |
11007s | cause some |
11012s | damage where does the Snoop go here |
11015s | though well now that your opponent has |
11019s | drawn |
11020s | schooling things start to get quite |
11022s | complicated |
11024s | cuz you may even oh I hate |
11030s | myself yeah I mean I guess you do have |
11032s | the tradeable yeah I was about to say |
11033s | you might even just play invento Matic |
11035s | cuz again this time I did notice it's a |
11038s | 34 which I think makes the most awkward |
11040s | board against the Piranhas but then as I |
11043s | started to say that I threw up in my |
11044s | mouth because it floated a mana and then |
11046s | I realized that you could just trade |
11047s | away the speaker stomper which is a |
11049s | downside sure because we've seen already |
11051s | speaker stomper can do some work in this |
11053s | matchup but uh I do think it just makes |
11055s | the most irritating over it's not a Mana |
11058s | floated downside put it that way exactly |
11060s | yeah it's like yeah this is a good turn |
11062s | now for banter right but it's the whole |
11064s | turn and now the squirrels are gone and |
11067s | you could okay okay here's the actual |
11070s | thing that I didn't want you to kill now |
11071s | I will drop that on the board yeah the |
11074s | Piranhas are gone so all getting mixed |
11076s | up with his animals of course but they |
11077s | are what did I say he said the squirrels |
11079s | have gone the squirels G the squirrels |
11082s | there some kind of that's my cat hunting |
11085s | in the park behind our |
11088s | house T of TI's going to be used here to |
11091s | clean up some of this but again not |
11093s | quite all going to have to use the |
11095s | overdraft as |
11097s | well do I didn't even say his name why |
11100s | is he just wandered in the room I he |
11103s | like you summoned me master yeah did you |
11105s | just respond to the word squirrel is |
11108s | where you sure it's a cat and not a dog |
11112s | no |
11116s | or is At The Mention of |
11118s | squirrels one of my dogs is still just |
11120s | snoring next to me so really a good |
11123s | hunting dog this one isn't |
11128s | him so great news for banter is that he |
11133s | was able to pass the threat check of the |
11135s | coppertail Snoop uh if he didn't this |
11137s | game was pretty much over because innie |
11139s | was coming down behind that and there |
11141s | was the gear shift to be able to draw |
11142s | cards to actually have things to spend |
11145s | all of those coins on because sometimes |
11147s | that does become a problem you can curve |
11149s | out perfectly into any but then you've |
11152s | played your whole hand so the fact that |
11153s | you're getting three or four coins every |
11155s | turn from your coppertail snoops doesn't |
11157s | actually mean diddly squat the bad news |
11159s | is though there is an inie so there is |
11163s | that is something you would love to |
11164s | avoid if you can if you're on MC |
11166s | Banner's side of this |
11168s | board but what's the setup Pig like can |
11170s | can Banner afford to just weapon pass |
11173s | here |
11175s | oh okay I like |
11178s | this yeah I do too |
11180s | Max Max Tempo draw some cards you don't |
11183s | face any overloads you still get to drop |
11185s | the Gogan on the next |
11188s | turn |
11192s | Okay |
11198s | noises |
11202s | my dam it presumably yeah you want to |
11205s | hits twice you do hit minions twice this |
11207s | shuts down the Titan play some of the |
11210s | time from banter uh luckily banter |
11213s | already has the turn the tides to go |
11215s | with the Titan |
11218s | though making it an actual legal play on |
11221s | the |
11224s | SP this would have been so brutal |
11226s | without right cuz it's like yeah you can |
11228s | kill one but that's |
11232s | it |
11234s | winess |
11237s | the and then you'd be looking at Voltron |
11239s | Prime inie which is possibly the most |
11242s | fun two card interaction in the |
11245s | game who |
11248s | okay both players no crab no crab he |
11253s | literally just said no crab both players |
11257s | just uh you know swinging at this |
11261s | point going to get rid of the this makes |
11264s | sense right like you don't want to rely |
11265s | on the top deck just try and cycle some |
11267s | more cards and build into it |
11273s | later H yeah any getting shoved back in |
11277s | the deck it's a weird card like it's so |
11279s | close to being cutable in this deck |
11281s | because it does do that in a lot of |
11283s | games like you sit there staring at it |
11286s | in your hand going this in is going to |
11288s | be the nuts as soon as I get to play it |
11291s | and you just never do cuz your opponent |
11293s | is desperately killing every Mech you |
11295s | play for the entire game but any turn |
11298s | you do land an in it's just so powerful |
11300s | though it feels like you just win right |
11303s | yeah it just retains its place in the |
11304s | deck just on overall power level see for |
11307s | just one card so for just one card |
11311s | mhm problem here is this is just simply |
11315s | a million |
11321s | damage it it has to be |
11324s | coin hero power right no |
11328s | okay are F |
11339s | to trying to magnetize the crab Robo |
11342s | crab unfortunately is not not not |
11351s | possible M face down to one |
11354s | potentially she going to lose this game |
11356s | and start to slip away Shaman once again |
11359s | looking to be in a tough spot and that's |
11361s | going to be it yeah Wu takes game number |
11364s | three 2-1 up so far and and it it really |
11368s | does just seem like we're just going to |
11369s | talk about Shaman for the rest of this |
11371s | match and maybe the rest of the Daya at |
11373s | this point because Mage getting the job |
11376s | done Rogues getting the job done again |
11379s | if mcbf face chooses to Q Mage I think |
11382s | he would be really confident in whatever |
11383s | match up you get well it would be the |
11385s | shaman one now be confident and it |
11387s | really is just like who's going to get |
11389s | Shaman over the line I do feel like this |
11391s | class has really fallen in to that |
11393s | everpresent fourth slot right like |
11396s | there's always that fourth deck that's |
11398s | like oh this is worse than all my other |
11400s | three but yes I accept what you're |
11403s | saying right but then if you look at |
11405s | some of the other Decks that have been |
11407s | brought in that fourth slot Druid has a |
11409s | 16% win rate Demon Hunter has a 33 % win |
11413s | rate uh warlock is killing it but it's |
11416s | two wins and one loss that's just not a |
11418s | real sample looks good to me yeah so |
11420s | like yes okay Shaman has been brought by |
11423s | a lot of people as kind of that fourth |
11424s | deck um but still yes this Series has |
11428s | not done it any favors but it was |
11429s | running at 45 before we started this |
11431s | series right so it was doing okay it was |
11434s | it was underwhelming but it wasn't the |
11436s | catastrophe that we seeing some others |
11438s | right and even even hunter that we've |
11440s | seen a lot at is in the 40s as well |
11442s | right like the that fourth deck by |
11445s | Nature right like if you bring a to a |
11448s | deck a lineup to Conquest and all four |
11450s | of your decks across the whole |
11451s | tournament have above 50% win rate well |
11455s | done shake my hand you probably won the |
11457s | tournament right like yeah it's not |
11459s | often that things work out like that |
11461s | yeah and and don't get me wrong I |
11463s | definitely don't think uh Shaman was I |
11465s | wouldn't even call it a mistake or |
11467s | anything I just think it's becoming |
11469s | glaringly obvious that it is that number |
11472s | four right I think Rogue um is is really |
11477s | stepped up because I was a bit unsure of |
11479s | what to think how Rogue would do going |
11480s | into this tournament if I'm completely |
11481s | honest was confident on Mage confident |
11483s | Warrior but the Rogue looks the Rogue |
11485s | choices should I say look to be really |
11487s | shining whereas Shaman does seem to be |
11490s | the uh the struggle deck right yeah I |
11492s | was very bullish coming into this that |
11495s | Mech Rogue was going to do very very |
11496s | well in this |
11499s | T and I think that has been borne out |
11502s | Rogue itself has has done extremely well |
11504s | in this tournament how how well that has |
11506s | broken down between the secret Rogues |
11508s | and the mech Rogues I'm not entirely |
11510s | sure at this point we are going to see |
11512s | as we go into game four though mcbf face |
11514s | on this Mage hoping to even this match |
11517s | up and give us a good old shame and |
11519s | mirror for the game five but for now weu |
11522s | still has the ability to fight back here |
11524s | and and just end this match quickly |
11526s | especially with this hand looking quite |
11528s | good the Piranhas are available some |
11530s | earlier plays that you know if need be |
11532s | can be used to Tempo but maybe just |
11534s | missing just a little bit on some |
11536s | guaranteed sort of good amount of card |
11537s | draw here yeah I think really this yeah |
11541s | if this hand drew a three on three if it |
11543s | drew feral Spirits or uh turn the tides |
11546s | suddenly everything was looking |
11548s | fantastic because yeah you have thorm |
11550s | you have Flow Rider but you currently |
11552s | have no way to overload which means you |
11553s | currently have no way to draw cards uh |
11556s | you also don't have a particularly good |
11557s | Tempo play on three which are I just |
11561s | named a pretty comprehensive list of the |
11562s | things things this deck wants in the |
11564s | early game um wiq does have the Piranhas |
11567s | though which means he's not going to be |
11569s | taking a ton of damage in the early game |
11571s | which is nice uh but yeah it's still a |
11573s | hand that needs a couple of extra pieces |
11575s | to pull it |
11578s | together and I like this as well just |
11580s | don't try and get too fancy just play |
11582s | the three piranhas leave one on the |
11584s | board if it gets pinged great if it |
11587s | doesn't great you know whatever at this |
11589s | point yeah spend your Mana right there |
11592s | was |
11593s | effective way to do that unless you just |
11595s | want to play a vanilla spider tank Thor |
11597s | but that does not seem worth it |
11599s | there you |
11613s | yep flash of lightning is the Mana spend |
11616s | and then you'd still be able to go Flow |
11619s | Rider thorm next turn but it just wasn't |
11622s | a flash of lightning hand was it like it |
11624s | kind of is now when you have a lightning |
11626s | reflexes in it but before you pick that |
11628s | off the Flow Rider it just cly was not |
11630s | yeah the rist the rist didn't look like |
11631s | it was worth the payoff right or even |
11633s | the potential |
11634s | payoff C case again from B to face just |
11638s | doing it the usual doing the |
11641s | basics just playing Mage having a good |
11651s | time |
11655s | this hand is coming together though I |
11657s | would say like whenever there's double |
11659s | crash you have to always just sit there |
11661s | and be like |
11664s | hm what's achievable in the near |
11670s | future decision now really I'd guess |
11673s | between the weapon and the feral Spirits |
11677s | here yeah and it is that decision as to |
11680s | I whether we actually have to fight for |
11683s | board and play the the tempo battle this |
11685s | game or whether we can just ignore all |
11688s | of that and say hang on I've got like a |
11690s | light I've got lightning reflexes flash |
11691s | double crash in my hand like can I just |
11694s | get there the chance of drawing the |
11696s | Titan as well right like just not |
11698s | overloading into six and I know you know |
11700s | it's a one in 19 at this point but You' |
11703s | still if you've got a good enough turn |
11705s | without the overload why not right I |
11707s | think that's fair |
11710s | yeah Arcane ball take off the floor R |
11713s | banf face is just going to keep the |
11715s | tempo and keep pushing damage with these |
11717s | skeletons not looking too bad at |
11726s | all what's he thinking about here cuz |
11728s | that was a quick early decision followed |
11730s | by a long pause to whether he wants to |
11736s | [Music] |
11738s | draw yeah I guess |
11741s | so |
11743s | just seemed like a surprising delay |
11745s | that's all |
11750s | mhm |
11752s | oh okay it's kind of weird isn't it cuz |
11756s | like I was going to say C immediately |
11758s | looks tempting but when you look at what |
11760s | you can do next turn into Elemental |
11763s | inspiration Suddenly It's like hm yeah I |
11766s | like |
11769s | no Wu is saying I've had enough I can't |
11772s | get hit and then get hit by the death |
11774s | rattles again so yeah just going to take |
11776s | a beating now go down to 11 set up the |
11778s | weapon |
11781s | swing but nor for plus one is coming |
11784s | down this time right and that's why this |
11785s | was the choice un is that you absolutely |
11789s | had to lock this down from your opponent |
11791s | cuz you are constantly scared of that |
11797s | setup the tit wasn't far off one turn |
11800s | late but still yeah |
11812s | uh suddenly a really really ugly spot to |
11814s | be in for the Sharman |
11818s | right I think it is just Titan right I |
11821s | think it is just Titan yeah you can go |
11823s | reflexes and look for the uh the 54 |
11825s | rushes to be able to answer but at that |
11829s | point why are you betting your future on |
11831s | a situation where you can just shoot it |
11833s | for 20 anyway makes more sense |
11841s | yeah it's going to hold doesn't use the |
11845s | spell discount |
11846s | yeah once the feral spirits to be |
11849s | playable next turn is potentially |
11850s | guaranteed Minions on board so you can |
11852s | either draw the bioluminescence or find |
11854s | it from that lightning reflexes |
11856s | potentially yeah or even just generating |
11859s | the overload as well right yeah yeah |
11861s | yeah absolutely |
11869s | a little bit tricky here from at banter |
11872s | face does have the elemental inspiration |
11875s | but in a weird situation where |
11877s | suddenly the Titan didn't use the deal |
11880s | damage heal right it's like oh that's |
11882s | just still |
11885s | there yeah you just can't let this thing |
11887s | live like your opponent's hand would |
11889s | have to be something kind of random in |
11892s | order you with a second charge Jazz base |
11895s | and an alive Titan discounting a spell |
11897s | by three yeah how do you not die next |
11900s | turn in that sitation I guess like the |
11903s | long shot is you saw them play a crash |
11905s | but that's too long of a shot for me |
11908s | still I am the of our |
11915s | Queen those are not it actually having |
11918s | drawn bio number one off the top these |
11920s | were not the cards that weak you would |
11923s | have wanted to see this |
11931s | turn lightning Bol and crash not |
11936s | bad but it's more about how this turn is |
11939s | going to finish right like what's the |
11941s | outcome here cuz no heal available |
11944s | either yeah so Zappa |
11948s | ferals swing the |
11951s | weapon six put your opponent 23 you have |
11954s | plus five spell |
11956s | damage plus six with the zapper you have |
11959s | to go in and do it yeah I agree with |
11964s | this B |
11966s | faces the eyebrow |
11972s | rais he's waiting for the third burn |
11974s | spell he's waiting for the third burn |
11976s | spell and it's not going to come and it |
11977s | turns out that he is still in this |
11979s | series cuz he has sift double Arcane |
11981s | bolt coming back the other away oh my |
11983s | God the desync is so intense I promise |
11985s | you what you just saw from bter Face's |
11988s | reaction was him realizing that the |
11989s | third burn spell was not there from wiq |
11993s | and that means he gets to take this one |
11995s | down and square the series up at two |
11998s | games to two and we are going to go all |
12000s | the way to a game five deciding yeah I |
12003s | was going to say that I'm not sure what |
12005s | spell damage exactly SI was on but I'm |
12007s | pretty sure the answer was enough right |
12010s | so yeah it was a fair play for we there |
12012s | going for it I think as you mentioned |
12014s | that the turn was correct right you just |
12016s | dump it all go and see what happens next |
12018s | turn if you're still alive uh couldn't |
12020s | get the Titan to heal didn't get hold of |
12022s | any extra heal as well for any sort of |
12024s | security and yeah just uh fell to the to |
12027s | the Wayside there and we are going to |
12028s | come down to a shaman mirror h i i uh |
12032s | wasn't too much of a prediction really I |
12034s | would say but the Rogues did their job |
12037s | the Mages did their job and now it's |
12038s | just down to a shaman face off and it's |
12041s | going to be a really tricky one how how |
12043s | do these mirrors normally go subtle is |
12046s | the person who wins board early |
12048s | generally the one who's going to take |
12050s | Victory or is there opportunities for a |
12053s | very back and forth |
12055s | game uh yes to the first question but |
12058s | also somewhat yes to the second question |
12061s | um the benefit of having early tempo of |
12064s | just like Landing fish on the board |
12065s | playing feral spirits on three dropping |
12068s | crash on the board and pushing through |
12069s | early chip damage is that there's an |
12072s | incredible fear equity in doing that for |
12074s | the plays that your opponent then has to |
12076s | make right if you chip your opponent |
12078s | down to 20 and you pass the turn to them |
12081s | and you've got two minions in play |
12084s | You're sat I'm sat there looking at that |
12085s | board going well if I don't pay |
12088s | attention to that they can kill me from |
12090s | 20 this turn because I'm leaving them |
12092s | with two Minions on the board so |
12093s | suddenly this card draw that I want to |
12095s | play I might not get to play this cuz I |
12097s | have to I have to deal with the board |
12098s | instead um so oh this is my first |
12101s | anomaly of the tournament Raven um oh I |
12104s | looked away for one second which one was |
12106s | it plus plus five Health oh okay thank |
12108s | you so um that actually changes things a |
12112s | little bit right cuz that actually gives |
12113s | the players a little bit more of a |
12115s | buffer to play with you're going to be |
12117s | less scared of turn five turn six |
12119s | lethals if you're leaving boards up on |
12121s | the other side and they do get the Jazz |
12122s | base down early but you can still see |
12125s | right like even though common wisdom |
12128s | might tell you well this is an otk deck |
12130s | against an otk deck Wu just keeps |
12133s | schooling and plays schooling on one |
12135s | because getting that Tempo battle right |
12138s | in the early turns is so huge this deck |
12140s | is so underrated as a Tempo deck um in |
12144s | terms of how to most effectively play it |
12147s | right it's a big reason why this version |
12149s | of the deck one out over the totem heavy |
12152s | version of the deck right with the |
12153s | infused spell and then that's much |
12155s | better at being an otk deck but it |
12158s | cannot Tempo so it loses that this is |
12161s | Hearthstone we're playing okay it's |
12162s | taken us 10 years to learn this but I |
12165s | thought we would have finally got there |
12166s | by now yeah we've seen it time and time |
12168s | again with these styles of decks where |
12170s | your end game plan doesn't mean anything |
12173s | if your opponent just plays stuff and |
12174s | kills you right so like we you know |
12176s | we've seen it time and time again as you |
12178s | said we even going to see the the tempo |
12181s | piranhas available uh getting dropped |
12183s | down there for wiq just to say you know |
12185s | what I'm just going to play these down |
12186s | you're not really going to kill them off |
12187s | and I'm going to have that board |
12189s | Advantage going in now exactly what I |
12192s | was referring to in the lead up right |
12193s | now these three these three little fish |
12195s | just get to chip away some damage push |
12197s | banter into the vicinity of 20 Health if |
12200s | they were starting at at 30 which |
12202s | they're not um and then suddenly that |
12205s | Fear Factor is huge I think right B |
12208s | banter having seen this schooling coming |
12209s | down will actually be somewhat thankful |
12211s | for that uh anomaly giving him a sort of |
12213s | a free renal at this |
12218s | point I mean b already kind of agonized |
12222s | over the choice here because they're all |
12225s | good but what's correct right like turn |
12228s | the tides again feels like the type of |
12230s | card you want |
12233s | playable also that's a thought has |
12235s | anyone talked about this how many renals |
12237s | are in this |
12239s | tournament 64 decks and I is it two |
12242s | control priests and that's it for renor |
12244s | deck maybe yeah and then the anomalies |
12247s | yeah yeah but but yeah yeah I think |
12249s | you're right |
12251s | actually |
12254s | well the biggest upset of this |
12255s | tournament all is zero paladins |
12257s | [Laughter] |
12260s | okay why did you want there to be |
12262s | Paladin I I was ready to cast some |
12265s | Divine Justice okay because there's |
12268s | something just I don't know all these |
12269s | fancy decks where Paladin's just like |
12271s | I'm just going to play a dude and hit |
12272s | you in the face MH just an honorable |
12275s | deck right now that's all I'm saying I |
12276s | do like the idea that you know because |
12279s | of like Order in the Court and the |
12280s | various effects that have cuz like most |
12281s | good Paladin effect uh decks abuse Order |
12284s | in the Court to some degree right |
12286s | massively yeah um whether it's like do |
12288s | this then I draw my pator and then that |
12289s | draws me all my light rays or whatever |
12291s | like that that kind of thing or the |
12292s | other version where you you play Order |
12294s | in the Court and then you always draw |
12295s | the garden's Grace but then the into |
12298s | your second one yeah and then guns great |
12300s | always cost zero by the time that you |
12301s | play it like because that's the nature |
12304s | of Paladin decks they basically just |
12305s | play the same game over and over and |
12307s | over and over again great and that game |
12310s | is get them |
12316s | yeah here the |
12318s | weu arguably has board control with the |
12320s | totem down but looks like this is going |
12322s | to be a weapon equip and go I don't |
12325s | think there's that much Merit of just |
12328s | playing turn the tides for a minion when |
12330s | you have the the Jazz uh bass |
12338s | available it kind of is though it's a |
12340s | three three on the board that |
12343s | yeah I like this I was thinking about it |
12345s | but I just thought it was just going to |
12346s | set up the weapon instead and just have |
12347s | that Flex for next turn yeah I just |
12350s | don't again it's I don't think the |
12353s | weapon is going to be popped two turns |
12356s | from that turn four that we you just |
12358s | played so if that's going to be the case |
12361s | then just take the extra 3 three a turn |
12363s | earlier right and just have that extra 3 |
12365s | three in play this is |
12370s | fine 17 by by the way he started at |
12374s | 35 I was going to say I guess it's still |
12376s | a little bit early of thinking maybe |
12378s | comboing them both to kill a Titan for |
12380s | example right or to help kill a Titan |
12383s | still a bit early in the game for that |
12384s | so yeah agreed and I think honestly with |
12388s | the the hand that we's staring at here |
12390s | now with the Jazz BL Jazz Bas lined up |
12394s | it's not so much killing a Titan I mean |
12396s | he is killing a Titan but that Titan is |
12398s | the Titan of the America's Hearthstone |
12400s | scene MCB face that's who going to be |
12402s | killed |
12403s | here one day I'll forgive you please I |
12407s | just want you to like me |
12411s | vter it's I'm sorry okay I'm |
12418s | sorry I haven't been this far in the mud |
12420s | with an America's player until like |
12421s | since I called Muzzy a choke artist live |
12424s | on oh that was a whole Ark wasn't it it |
12426s | was a whole lot that never got old we we |
12428s | we used that for like a good two years |
12430s | straight this is the thing you have to |
12433s | understand it's all excellent television |
12435s | though isn't it that's the |
12441s | point kind of interesting choices here |
12443s | is this just hex because he doesn't need |
12445s | the health and hex is |
12449s | cheap yeah sounds |
12452s | right sometimes the simple answers are |
12455s | the correct answers more often than not |
12457s | I'd say actually is there any juice in |
12459s | this Jazz base because there's a uh |
12462s | there is a little niche trick that you |
12463s | can do where you can actually |
12465s | potentially stack both charges of jazz |
12467s | base right like so if you have one like |
12469s | this and then you overwrite it with the |
12471s | second Jazz base and then swing that |
12473s | jazz base that you've just equipped you |
12475s | get the first spell discount effect then |
12477s | also going into the next turn you can |
12479s | swing the second Jazz basically just |
12481s | equipped and get it again uh usually |
12484s | there's not much of a way to get that to |
12485s | gain you more than one discount because |
12488s | you obviously you can't cast other |
12489s | spells before popping the second base or |
12492s | the whole thing's redundant um but it is |
12494s | a weird Niche spot a difficult lethal |
12497s | situation that does come up |
12507s | sometimes tournament life on the |
12511s | line both players trying to get there |
12513s | trying to piece together some kind of |
12516s | burst but weu definitely ahead by miles |
12519s | at least |
12520s | healthwise yeah n on 10 months of work |
12524s | on the line right now as |
12529s | well is |
12532s | little I'm ban to |
12534s | finding |
12537s | nothing how dare you insult lightning |
12540s | Bol like |
12545s | that yeah I think this is just Banner |
12548s | face just saying I've got to do |
12551s | something let's |
12558s | go right 28 without being able to get |
12561s | the second bio down |
12566s | yeah |
12572s | yep I'm sure weu was thinking not like |
12575s | this not not the fifth bur spell not the |
12578s | fifth bur spell not from |
12580s | 35 yeah |
12585s | yeah now uh 14 seems like a more |
12588s | attainable number |
12591s | yeah I'm just trying to honestly my |
12594s | brain struggles so much with doing crash |
12596s | numbers you can stop there |
12599s | mate H just you just your brain |
12602s | struggles so much end of sentence H but |
12606s | true but fair look we all struggle it's |
12610s | okay some than others I think so the |
12614s | problem here for Wei's hand is just |
12615s | minion generation right just can't |
12617s | really get enough stuff on board for the |
12619s | the |
12622s | bioluminescence one discount currently |
12625s | coming from the Jazz base on the |
12627s | previous turn so if you find feral |
12629s | Spirit from Flow Rider you're paying two |
12632s | for it you do still have an overdraft so |
12635s | you can get that one Mana back but you |
12637s | would if overdraft wasn't your first |
12639s | spell which it wouldn't be you'd be |
12641s | paying one for one man to get that one |
12643s | Mana back |
12648s | anyway this just going to stabilize |
12651s | instead or at least attempt |
12654s | it yeah this looks okay right clear the |
12657s | board and just say you don't have seven |
12659s | after all that yeah that was a it was a |
12663s | hand by the way like banter going for it |
12665s | 100% full force with his chest on the |
12667s | previous ter was absolutely correct |
12669s | because of this thorum being able to |
12671s | reset this on the following turn anyway |
12674s | um but we's turn on that previous turn I |
12676s | don't know if some Mega genius finds |
12678s | some god tier line on that turn it was |
12680s | one of those hands having played this |
12681s | deck a lot that's like it's screaming at |
12684s | me that there's some hidden God play in |
12685s | it but I just could not work out what it |
12687s | was I think it was just like a manner or |
12689s | two short wasn't it I think if if this |
12691s | was turn eight turn nine maybe we could |
12694s | definitely talk about outs but I think |
12696s | just a lack of Mana was the real problem |
12699s | mhm and this is so tired two players |
12702s | been working like 10 months fighting for |
12704s | a world championship spot and it's only |
12707s | the anomaly really that is keeping them |
12710s | alive at this |
12713s | point yeah cuz weirdly that that would |
12716s | have been it right mben would have |
12718s | lethal Wu in this exact game obviously |
12720s | the game maybe and well would have been |
12722s | played differently and so on but yeah |
12726s | just as maybe Wu could have done the |
12727s | other turn better if there was less |
12729s | health of course but there's Zappa all |
12733s | you tell |
12736s | me Zappa Flow Rider go |
12740s | looking I have the overdraft anyway |
12742s | right yeah overdrafts there yep and |
12744s | there's the crash with the uh |
12749s | ferals |
12752s | TI T is three but then crash still costs |
12757s | three oh for |
12759s | sure what's that on the left left okay |
12763s | how is this game still going |
12765s | on I don't know but they are now both |
12768s | officially dead sounds anomaly so you |
12770s | know we have that going for us I just |
12772s | feel like it's that thing where you just |
12774s | poke them both with a stick and say do |
12776s | something it's like it wasn't it wasn't |
12779s | there |
12780s | right two |
12782s | minions bioluminesence and overd Dr |
12785s | you'd be overloaded for two so it would |
12788s | just do four yeah no that wasn't it |
12793s | how could you not do eight that turn I |
12795s | don't believe it that must have been |
12798s | lethal and banner can't believe it |
12800s | either I think he was so sure he was |
12802s | dead so now is this just Titan AOE |
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12809s | heal Titan draw three is true yeah I I |
12812s | didn't even look how low his deck was |
12814s | and there it is that plus lightning Bol |
12817s | I think M bface can't believe it either |
12819s | that's not only going to be game but |
12821s | that is going to be Matt MCB takes the |
12823s | victory there and look at that that was |
12826s | so close and there you go I love that |
12829s | it's the fist pump of yes I won and then |
12832s | the actual reaction of how the heck did |
12835s | I win that game of hearthstone because I |
12837s | think both players at multiple turns |
12840s | throughout that end game expected each |
12842s | other to or expected themselves I guess |
12845s | to lose and die because there was so |
12847s | many turns where in maybe any other game |
12850s | the shaman would just thought oh yeah |
12852s | sure I'm going to do this I'm going to |
12854s | press end turn I'm pretty much dead |
12856s | whatever you know I'll see what happens |
12857s | and I think what twice it happened where |
12860s | just neither player could get there and |
12861s | I think you know if we would have had |
12863s | cameras for both players you would have |
12864s | seen shock on MCB face and weu there |
12867s | after each of those turns really |
12869s | incredible last game and you can take |
12871s | that back to the the Rogue versus Shaman |
12873s | game as well right like bface thought he |
12876s | was cooked twice this series like for |
12879s | sure he absolutely thought he was dead |
12882s | um in oh it was the Mage game Sorry like |
12884s | where actually all three right the Rog |
12886s | yeah the Rog yeah he was he thought he |
12888s | he thought he was out of it with the |
12889s | Rogue until the crab top deck kept him |
12891s | back in here and just just straight out |
12892s | fact that he wasn't dead to the shaman |
12893s | on the other side the Mage he was one |
12895s | burn spell away from dying and he |
12897s | thought that burn spell existed and then |
12898s | he had the Sith counter lethal and then |
12900s | the shaman mirror so all three games weq |
12903s | lost with Sharman banter probably would |
12906s | have thought he was out in all three of |
12908s | them uh and two of those the Mage and |
12910s | the mirror were actually at tournament |
12913s | life on the line and that at that point |
12914s | in the scores as well so that seems like |
12917s | an incredibly unlikely series from Ban's |
12920s | perspective to have won but I think you |
12922s | know banter is a phenomenal player this |
12924s | was two great players with two good |
12927s | records with very similar lineups going |
12930s | up against each other so the margins |
12931s | were always going to be that fine but |
12934s | yeah I don't think too many of us would |
12935s | have predicted that ending of just an |
12937s | anomaly and just a few bad draws |
12939s | basically keeping both players players |
12941s | in it for that one extra turn and |
12942s | allowing things to fall in favor of bter |
12945s | yeah luckily for banter and I guess for |
12947s | us we've got a little bit of time to |
12948s | recover as we're going to go to a break |
12950s | while we set up the final top eight |
12952s | match of the day and then we'll |
12953s | obviously continue into that top four so |
12955s | don't go anywhere we'll be right back |
12957s | with some more he |
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13241s | Hello everybody welcome back to the |
13242s | Hearthstone Masters Tour fall |
13244s | Championship my name is TJ I'm joined by |
13246s | adal Vice once again we kicked off the |
13248s | show and now we're back for the final |
13250s | quarterfinals how you doing I'm doing |
13253s | great what a series to follow I think |
13255s | that's probably my favorite match of the |
13257s | weekend so |
13259s | far yeah that was a a good one very |
13262s | close every game was close every game |
13264s | you could look at it for the last five |
13266s | turns and be like no idea who's going to |
13269s | win literally no idea aide um and maybe |
13272s | that's just the nature of Shaman get it |
13275s | nature of Shaman I need to that um but |
13278s | yeah we got one spot left in the |
13280s | semi-finals and it's going to go to co |
13281s | or balance as the two players that are |
13285s | going to be competing here in this next |
13287s | match yeah and balance I believe is one |
13291s | of the few priest |
13296s | players control |
13298s | priest heyo I'm sorry wait a minute I'm |
13302s | seeing Co has control priest please tell |
13304s | me they don't both |
13309s | sorry wait did I look at it wrong I |
13311s | didn't think so wait okay no no it's |
13314s | balanced all right I was I had a heart |
13317s | attack for a moment thinking we had been |
13319s | stuck with control priest mirror oh no |
13322s | we have I'm correct go and balance both |
13325s | have the XL control priest which uh is |
13330s | kind of curious are the only two players |
13332s | who have brought it and both of them |
13333s | make it into the top eight so uh maybe |
13336s | they just had a read kind of unfortunate |
13338s | for them to then run into each other as |
13341s | I think even priest players are not |
13343s | terribly happy to see that |
13346s | mirror oh jeez I have the completely |
13348s | wrong decks |
13350s | open but uh yeah Co does have on the |
13353s | other hand the enrage Warrior rather |
13356s | than the Odin Warrior so at least doing |
13358s | us a favor by going a little more |
13360s | aggressive Ive on that side of things |
13362s | I'm I've always been pretty big fan of |
13365s | enrage Warrior uh I don't know about you |
13367s | youj but I just I don't know I like |
13370s | getting those huge stat numbers which |
13372s | which you can yeah definitely do now |
13375s | with battle war faceless and anima |
13376s | extractor it's pretty fun Temple Deck |
13378s | with a lot of skill expression which is |
13380s | cool I also love small steam |
13384s | Guardians I don't know why it's small |
13386s | but it's small um and an interesting uh |
13390s | list that doesn't run um the RoR roria |
13395s | yeah roria or Grom I think yeah know |
13399s | previously when we had sort of Druid |
13402s | Stone going on one of the arguments for |
13404s | for cutting that big top end was you |
13406s | just had to kill them quicker than that |
13408s | and I think that's that certainly can be |
13411s | a continued argument even even now but |
13415s | uh I would prefer to have those going |
13417s | into another control priest player |
13420s | certainly |
13423s | yeah it kind of need it for the the |
13426s | damage but we'll see if we uh if we get |
13428s | to that point uh in the series um moving |
13433s | over to talk about |
13435s | balance uh it's kind of interesting |
13438s | actually I completely skipped over on Co |
13441s | and even putting up my deck list for |
13443s | this round I didn't even put his up uh |
13447s | hit the correct decks up that so many |
13449s | priest players actually made it in uh to |
13451s | the top eight because we actually did |
13452s | see even though we lost ream earlier |
13454s | with the shadow priest uh make it into |
13457s | the top eight as well so even though the |
13460s | times we've seen the deck on stream have |
13462s | been quite |
13464s | lackluster uh the deck is obviously |
13466s | performing well or the class is |
13468s | obviously performing well across both |
13470s | archetypes to make it to this point |
13473s | perhaps the the players uh you know |
13475s | priest is at least as of our previous |
13478s | stats not |
13480s | still not the greatest performance win |
13483s | percentage wise it's at uh |
13486s | 42.86% now I don't know if that is you |
13490s | know the shadow priest dragging down the |
13494s | controls or or vice versa in terms of |
13496s | stats but uh it's a little surprising |
13500s | that all three of them made it to the |
13501s | top eight when the stats for it have not |
13504s | been |
13506s | Stellar yeah um but 40% is still |
13510s | respectable like it's you know winning |
13512s | nearly half the match that half the |
13515s | matches that takes part in half the |
13517s | games that it takes part in and control |
13519s | priest is much different than control |
13520s | priest of old you actually get to play |
13522s | things and you can be proactive with the |
13524s | deck uh as opposed to you know in |
13527s | previous iterations of control priest |
13529s | where you were just reactive until super |
13532s | late stages in the game uh one of the I |
13534s | think most important cards in control |
13536s | priest nowadays probably ignis um yeah |
13540s | gives you so much flexibility it gives |
13542s | you ways consistent ways to like gain |
13544s | armor Beyond just um you know generated |
13549s | effects right which helps a lot uh in |
13552s | many matchups in the current metag game |
13554s | getting above certain thresholds of life |
13556s | and also you can make a bunch of ignes |
13559s | you can just ignis all day every day and |
13563s | make a bunch of weapons that fit every |
13564s | situation you know get a five cost for |
13566s | Tempo sure yeah then get a 10 cost for |
13569s | that you know and endgame win condition |
13572s | uh you could do it |
13573s | all yeah a lot of times if priest is |
13576s | able to beat out some of these you know |
13579s | more direct damage decks it is because |
13582s | of armor from ignis giving it the |
13583s | capability to do something it is |
13586s | normally not able to which is exceed the |
13589s | maximum life total of know 35 with |
13591s | renthal but yeah getting so many ESS |
13594s | from power of creation from power cord |
13597s | synchronize like priest is a lot more |
13600s | now about like finding key minions and |
13602s | just getting tons of copies of |
13605s | them yep and that is more fun than just |
13610s | taking your opponent's cards and hoping |
13612s | that's something good or waiting for |
13614s | your opponent to play big stuff and then |
13615s | killing it and that's |
13617s | it so uh definitely much more of a fan |
13621s | of the control per still tends to be |
13622s | long games they still tend to be quite |
13624s | grindy and you know like to uh grind out |
13628s | decks and that's why we're talking about |
13629s | the AR because games do tend to go a |
13631s | little bit longer um but they can end |
13634s | games which |
13636s | is thumbs up they can win they can win |
13639s | games of hearthstone not just not lose |
13642s | games of hearthstone and we're going to |
13644s | get to see it right off the |
13645s | bat certainly matchup wise uh in terms |
13649s | of being the priest here versus the |
13652s | enrage Warrior you're probably feeling |
13655s | pretty good as balance and we're coming |
13656s | in a few turns in but see the the |
13660s | Cathedral location here for the priest |
13662s | even though there's not a ton of minions |
13663s | it's just really great tool for card |
13666s | draw you know once you pay that three |
13668s | Mana up front you can then use it uh for |
13671s | for just you know three cards over time |
13674s | right you pay your tax set at at the |
13676s | start and then the next ones are free |
13677s | and this is a very common use case where |
13679s | you even just buff the enemy minion |
13682s | right before you kill it just to get |
13683s | that card |
13688s | draw the |
13692s | bori I can't call it anything else |
13696s | now yeah it it can be an obnoxious card |
13700s | for control decks to deal with but |
13702s | priest specifically is sort of the the |
13704s | king of you know silences or or dealing |
13708s | with threats without actually triggering |
13710s | stuff so uh no silence present just yet |
13714s | but there are certainly two copies of |
13717s | Shard of Naru in the list somewhere yeah |
13720s | and could be crucial in this game as |
13723s | well |
13725s | um just to try and stop these eggs get |
13729s | rid of some Buffs that are going to |
13730s | happen on the board later on in the game |
13733s | uh even like trial by |
13734s | fire |
13740s | um I don't think it's sangs because I |
13742s | don't think you want three locations on |
13744s | the board but it could be okay it is s |
13746s | it's just the cheapest it's rare |
13748s | situation where you have three locations |
13750s | on the |
13752s | board I mean sometimes a a ping is nice |
13756s | you know maybe thinking well it pairs |
13758s | with the Holy Nova |
13761s | and uh you know allows you to take out |
13764s | this this 3 |
13765s | three I'm not sure there were any really |
13768s | great options there so yeah just kind of |
13770s | the cheapest to get out of the way and |
13772s | you don't usually care about Ford space |
13774s | as much as the priest so kind of okay to |
13777s | play a bunch of locations yeah |
13786s | for Co |
13788s | though it's not you know it's looking |
13792s | okay with the number of board clears |
13794s | that priests have access to you're |
13796s | always a little bit on edge of you know |
13799s | how long is this going to last how much |
13800s | value can I get out of it so I'm sure |
13802s | he's thinking |
13804s | about what resources he wants to spend |
13807s | you know is it worth doing champ session |
13810s | plus the uh crispy Skipper we sometimes |
13813s | call it the sunfury there to get two |
13815s | procs on you know acolyte for card |
13824s | draws op just keep things as |
13829s | is and I think not playing the sanguin |
13832s | deps last turn for balance was an odd to |
13835s | picking up this trial by fire right so |
13838s | one situation where board space would |
13839s | would |
13840s | matter |
13842s | yes and one of the only ones I wonder um |
13847s | he's going to go there was pretty clean |
13848s | clear with just two bumps into the steam |
13850s | Guardian then acolyte Thor bori but it's |
13853s | just going to make use of actually this |
13857s | is actually what a |
13859s | full full |
13862s | full clear crucially only one attack |
13866s | used on the aqualite right so don't end |
13868s | up drawing the opponent too many cards |
13870s | going to leave up the egg for |
13873s | now |
13875s | yep pretty clean turn ends with the two |
13878s | four fours that are full health uh after |
13880s | the location hit so nicely done |
13884s | and for en rage Warrior it's always |
13886s | tough to kind of start from scratch um |
13889s | obviously theor Bor is going to do some |
13892s | work in trying to fight back this board |
13894s | but when you fall behind on board within |
13896s | rage War it can be kind of difficult to |
13898s | get back unless you've done |
13900s | significant amount of damage to your |
13901s | opponent and can try and go for uh those |
13906s | otks |
13908s | um have a little bit in the |
13910s | makings of it with the crazy wrch and |
13914s | the copy with jam session but still not |
13918s | nearly enough and quite has to just |
13922s | think if it's worth trial by fire for |
13924s | four right now because there's no board |
13926s | space we just roaring Applause and then |
13927s | see what happens |
13931s | yeah I mean this is certainly the |
13933s | matchup where you would wish to have |
13935s | something like a gromos of course grash |
13938s | plus location plus the battle warn |
13940s | faceless is a way that you can get a |
13943s | massive amount of Gobo damage I think it |
13946s | goes up |
13947s | to like what is it |
13950s | 204 damage |
13954s | or grash plus location is 12 and then |
13959s | you you copy it so yeah |
13960s | 24 and that can be one way you take the |
13963s | priest by |
13968s | surprise going to have to do it the |
13970s | oldfashioned way |
13971s | here yeah actually Grom plus en rage is |
13974s | the old fashioned way but going to have |
13977s | to do it have old old fashioned way yeah |
13979s | going to have to do with the new |
13981s | fashioned way with a bunch of cards in a |
13983s | single turn and then |
13986s | killing and these trial by fires for Co |
13990s | are actually kind of awkward because of |
13992s | this this egg you know I'm wondering |
13996s | like how long he's going to be sitting |
13999s | on this reduced jam session together |
14002s | with the craze WR and things because one |
14004s | of the options on the previous turn |
14006s | would have been to buff the egg uh |
14011s | awaken Thor balour and you know jam |
14014s | session on that |
14018s | board |
14030s | seems like the goal is to go for just a |
14034s | massive hand buff turn I think Co is |
14037s | going to try and curate the hand so that |
14039s | all the Buffs land on that craze |
14043s | wretch yep also has um the bonus of |
14048s | being able to clean this board up as |
14050s | well CU you |
14052s | can |
14054s | alternate |
14055s | attacks with the thory Bel |
14058s | Lord as you play these fire spells just |
14061s | what resources want to get rid of |
14063s | strengthes the |
14065s | ashes |
14067s | moral Soul full of |
14071s | sin now this is uh a little bit |
14074s | surprising to me uh battle war faceless |
14076s | very powerful card in in Rage Warrior |
14079s | but it does have the awkward sort of |
14083s | anti- synergy |
14085s | with um animal extractor where any Buffs |
14089s | that it eats are kind of wasted if you |
14092s | end up using it for the copy effect |
14094s | because it it transforms so |
14099s | uh yeah usually I like to copy the |
14103s | extractor itself so you can kind of |
14104s | minimize that happening but you are you |
14108s | know sometimes star for Mana in terms of |
14110s | being able to do |
14117s | that still a lot of resources generated |
14119s | a lot of Buffs being placed got two on |
14122s | the craze wretch is decent I saw uh at |
14126s | least one go on to the disat ogre as |
14128s | well so yep there's some damage being |
14131s | racked up |
14136s | here and this uh one Mana weapon for |
14139s | balance you know typically you're |
14141s | looking for on a one Mana weapon you |
14143s | know say the the death rattle deal one |
14145s | to everything and poisonous but uh it's |
14149s | still just an efficient weapon here uh |
14151s | with life steal and gain two |
14158s | Arbor it's like the only way to clear |
14160s | the board but it ging over somebody yeah |
14164s | attack first okay there we go I was |
14166s | about to say if he's going to do it how |
14167s | I think he's going to do it then is |
14170s | going to be a lot of Buffs thrown |
14174s | over this will clear and |
14177s | then follow up with the sanguin depths |
14180s | not sure if it may be meant to do the |
14184s | armor vendor |
14185s | but the the important plays got |
14189s | through there is another extractor now |
14193s | so even though the battle war faceless |
14195s | ate some of those Buffs earlier on uh Co |
14198s | might be able to just |
14200s | go again and and this time copy the |
14203s | Animo |
14216s | extractor there's always the the risk |
14218s | though of dirty rat but as the enrage |
14221s | Warrior I kind of feel like you don't |
14223s | really have another plan like you sort |
14227s | of have to go for this all in |
14230s | uh hand buff strategy |
14232s | and yeah I just hope you you can dodge |
14234s | the rats because it's very very unlikely |
14238s | that you end up actually sticking a |
14255s | board and terms of okay balance just |
14259s | looking to clear and draw cards that's |
14262s | kind of the constant uh name of the game |
14264s | for the |
14265s | priest |
14267s | yeah has a lot of |
14269s | ways to do that with the cler plus |
14273s | handmaiden as |
14275s | well uh parkour synchronize |
14279s | H not really anything currently to use |
14282s | that on I guess in a pinch you could use |
14284s | it on like armor |
14285s | vender |
14288s | um the Behemoth The probably not great |
14292s | can't be used this |
14295s | turn but it's likely going to be wide |
14297s | unless you're staring at a single Minion |
14299s | which Co doesn't really have too much in |
14301s | the way of the single minions caniz is |
14303s | fantastic here just be able to stop |
14306s | these buff from coming on it is it |
14308s | fantastic I mean that's not really how |
14310s | you want to use that card there's not |
14312s | really anything else you're going to use |
14314s | it for in this match up though there not |
14315s | like big stuff and well I think often |
14318s | times you know your ideal use case is up |
14321s | against something like uh you know you |
14324s | play your dirty rat you hit their big |
14326s | minion they've been buffing all game in |
14328s | hand and then and then you can |
14330s | cannibalize |
14331s | that yeah but no dirty rat in hand I |
14336s | mean I guess a lot of card draws |
14338s | still just trying to find ways to spend |
14341s | the |
14345s | Mana and with this many |
14347s | cards |
14350s | I don't know in this situation I feel |
14352s | like it was |
14353s | decent I I mean I think had to do it I |
14356s | think you're just not necessarily happy |
14358s | about it right |
14366s | yeah in terms of CO's plays here I mean |
14370s | these Embers are a lot less useful when |
14373s | you're not doing the sort of you know |
14374s | sunfury Embers anima |
14377s | extractor |
14380s | combo uh so I'm little surprised that we |
14384s | did not see that coming down a little |
14387s | bit earlier but you know the the flip |
14391s | side of saving this battle warn faceless |
14394s | like this is and I'm sure Co is thinking |
14396s | about it in this way you get to save it |
14399s | for the craze wretch so you know he's |
14401s | been sitting on this craze dret and jam |
14403s | session for quite a while now and I'm |
14405s | sure has it in his mind |
14407s | to you know use the location in play |
14411s | plus the sangin depths in hand plus jam |
14413s | session on The Craze wretch and then |
14416s | copy it with the faceless and and so |
14418s | that is kind of the amount of burst |
14420s | damage that that Co has been working |
14423s | towards is it a 47 right now he hasn't |
14426s | moused over in a |
14428s | while yeah uh |
14432s | unfortunately and there goes the |
14435s | faceless and there goes the other one |
14437s | out of the deck that is one of the the |
14440s | you know really tough things about if |
14443s | you you let things get to the point of |
14444s | dirty rat whirl poool is you not only |
14446s | lose copy in play that you lose copy in |
14448s | your deck and I think Co was looking to |
14450s | pull the trigger on the next |
14456s | turn 36 and it would have been a lethal |
14458s | setup as well unless balance had been |
14461s | able to gain a lot of |
14465s | Life what 24 something like that but now |
14470s | back to square one only four cards left |
14472s | in the deck I don't just don't know if |
14473s | it's going to be enough damage to get |
14474s | there it's got to kind of go wide and |
14477s | then hope yeah I mean you need something |
14479s | to |
14482s | stick you know no silence on the thory |
14486s | has meant a considerable amount of value |
14489s | out of its you know recursions just |
14492s | making it all the more Awkward for for |
14495s | balance to keep getting |
14497s | clears yeah and |
14500s | here's the weapon finally is I think |
14503s | that might be both weapons in the bottom |
14505s | three cards which is in the |
14507s | B yeah for a second I I was I had to |
14511s | double check that they were there I was |
14513s | like wait a second this doesn't seem |
14516s | uh this doesn't seem particularly good |
14520s | but yeah they are there they're just at |
14521s | the bottom there have been some players |
14525s | that have actually been cutting Ena |
14527s | extractor or or going down to one copy |
14529s | in their latter list uh this was during |
14532s | the Druid meta but uh just |
14534s | because they saw battle war faceless as |
14537s | kind of the the better card and since |
14540s | there is that bit of anti- synergy there |
14543s | they were you know looking at ways of |
14545s | just going lower to the ground and not |
14547s | worrying about hand buffing so much as |
14548s | just taking advantage of the weapon but |
14550s | I don't think there's any lists that |
14552s | have cut in bux it is just way too good |
14555s | of a snowball |
14557s | card quick |
14560s | good snowball card can also be a good |
14562s | setup card at times if you just need to |
14565s | be proactive just making a bunch of |
14566s | stats on the board getting them out of |
14568s | range certain |
14573s | a this |
14575s | is just very awkward here for balance |
14579s | you know this only clears the thory and |
14584s | you know you like to have saved it for |
14585s | the following turn out of I don't think |
14588s | this is |
14592s | enough it's it's not infused but it's 10 |
14595s | 13 14 15 + 4 |
14600s | 19 yeah 2021 jam session is 24 both Jam |
14605s | sessions oh both Jam sessions yes this |
14607s | is the last card and also c r |
14610s | too uh just |
14613s | to add to it so balance just not able to |
14617s | find something |
14620s | to get that last push uh taken care of |
14623s | from CO's side that was a little bit |
14626s | awkward not what I expected to be quite |
14629s | Frank again this is usually quite |
14631s | favored for the priest I think it really |
14633s | comes down to the fact that balance |
14634s | never saw any Shard of the Naru which |
14637s | are a huge card in the matchup you know |
14639s | very good against all all the Buffs |
14641s | against story bour which Co was able to |
14644s | get massive value out of so I think if |
14646s | you're Co you're very happy with that |
14648s | game one result not just because of the |
14650s | win but because a win into an |
14652s | unfavorable yeah that's |
14654s | uh a huge win maybe a loss for us |
14658s | because the priest is still on the |
14660s | table I was thinking that it means |
14663s | higher odds that we see that priest |
14665s | mirror yeah I was like I I'm I was about |
14669s | to breathe the S relief I was like okay |
14671s | got the faces is out of the deck decent |
14674s | life total one last push to take care of |
14677s | and balance just couldn't take care of |
14679s | it and I feel like that's a weakness |
14681s | we've seen from priests quite often |
14684s | because they're sometimes they get forc |
14686s | to these positions where they're have to |
14687s | be so |
14688s | reactive um and but they just run out of |
14692s | tools against uh these types these |
14694s | styles of decks which just keep |
14697s | refilling that's the one benefit I guess |
14700s | if you want to call it that for Co of |
14702s | having like jam session and bux at the |
14704s | bottom right was that a the AC early on |
14709s | both light of the phoenixes came like at |
14711s | the perfect time uh to be able to |
14713s | continuously have a full hand size |
14716s | throughout the entire portion of that |
14717s | mid game and that allow him to have like |
14720s | sort of waves to push as you mentioned |
14721s | the sh of the Naru just not being there |
14723s | um balance may have just run away with |
14726s | the game that Thor balora had been just |
14728s | taken care of uh earlier on because he |
14731s | used that to trade in to so many minions |
14733s | and then to deal a good amount of face |
14735s | damage at the end as well yeah I I think |
14739s | you know one of the problems priest can |
14741s | have is actually just too many cards in |
14743s | a hand balance couldn't make enough hand |
14745s | space to actually play that handmaid |
14747s | into to draw three to find the cards |
14749s | that he actually needed right you play |
14751s | something like identity theft get two |
14752s | cards from your opponent I mean the |
14755s | trial by a fire was a pretty good pickup |
14757s | but besides that I mean it's just you're |
14760s | replacing cards in your hand with other |
14762s | cards that you don't necessarily want |
14764s | and then never having the hand space to |
14766s | play handmaiden for the the draw three |
14768s | that might have found a board clear that |
14770s | much |
14771s | earlier I see you've |
14774s | broughtest |
14776s | light and the |
14778s | impure all right getting some Mage |
14781s | versus |
14782s | priest going on here we just need one of |
14787s | these priests to win before they face |
14789s | each other |
14791s | that's it's going to be the last deck |
14793s | for both |
14794s | players that's the that's the |
14797s | trajectory uh we're heading down so |
14800s | we'll see balance fighting Tempo with |
14801s | Tempo here just temping out the |
14805s | artificer certainly Mage has been you |
14808s | know one of the better uh performers |
14812s | it's pretty likely it seems that people |
14815s | end up getting you know wins with Mage I |
14818s | suppose it's kind of middle of the pack |
14820s | Rogue has |
14821s | been the best but uh yeah it's it's an |
14826s | awkward matchup for the |
14829s | priest where you have to kind of dirty |
14833s | rat Sif but then also there's a lot of |
14836s | boards you still have to |
14838s | clear |
14843s | mhm sort of need to get copies on the |
14846s | dirty rat tube |
14848s | to be able to hit the Minions that you |
14851s | need at |
14853s | times snap |
14857s | Ignus |
14861s | there's potential for four ignis this |
14865s | game yep and that's the beauty |
14870s | of getting it from the protocol is that |
14873s | it that's your Forge also taken care of |
14876s | for the ignes yeah absolutely don't even |
14879s | have to worry about it so now um that's |
14882s | a a Big Boon for Co just gives you |
14886s | proactive stuff in especially It just |
14888s | fits the curve perfectly yeah I think Co |
14891s | is just happy to have seen you know the |
14893s | volume up happen before the cold case so |
14896s | that does give time uh for feel a little |
14900s | safer playing the ignis on four you'd |
14903s | probably do it either way but just not |
14905s | quite taking that chip damage just yet |
14907s | feels pretty |
14915s | nice and I think you go for a five here |
14919s | yeah just play on |
14922s | curve yep took the five when Fury summon |
14927s | perhaps it's good Tempo |
14931s | option there was armor too but I don't |
14933s | think you're really needed at this |
14936s | point well the armor is less useful if |
14939s | it's just getting chipped down by things |
14942s | like volatile skeletons anyway right |
14945s | like you do have healing in the deck |
14950s | yeah so yeah wind Fury summon makes a |
14952s | whole lot of sense to me take out the |
14954s | skeleton and then the |
14962s | artificer o that's a good |
14967s | one very good |
14972s | one oh but so is love everlasting for |
14976s | balance they were just just talking |
14978s | about it |
14982s | too I don't know that there's a game you |
14984s | ever don't want love everlasting as I |
14986s | know |
14988s | yeah yeah |
14991s | it's absolutely |
14995s | broken I mean there's no for some pretty |
14998s | insane sift combos too insane sift |
15001s | combos it just Smooths everything along |
15003s | like there's pretty much no turn in |
15005s | which you're not playing a spell anyway |
15007s | so it's just free like you never end up |
15010s | like the priest sometimes does where you |
15012s | feel like you have to play a spell or |
15014s | else you're going to lose your love |
15015s | everlasting in Mage it's |
15018s | just it just happens you're just playing |
15021s | spells anyway |
15023s | yeah the only time where you may have to |
15026s | think about it is like it's turn six and |
15028s | you got norgan on and it's a really good |
15034s | play wither is the pick here for the the |
15038s | second discovery of magic and uh |
15043s | honestly even without the undead Synergy |
15046s | with the volatile skeletons I think it'd |
15048s | be a solid pick just as a one Mana |
15049s | nature |
15050s | spell |
15054s | yep us |
15056s | all that's not a good |
15059s | one those two are less good yeah |
15063s | certainly if you if you take the stats |
15066s | from both of them it's pretty |
15070s | average the 38 and the 1 one |
15074s | but alone it's not |
15077s | great still another ignis exactly oh |
15083s | wow okay going for the |
15086s | melanic that's pretty cool |
15091s | actually I'm a little surprised to see |
15094s | it play Turn well it gets rid of the |
15097s | love ever foric potentially right most |
15101s | most most of the time it doesn't I guess |
15103s | but in this instance it it might just I |
15108s | mean it kind of forces the elemental |
15110s | inspiration |
15112s | right |
15114s | yeah I think that might be worth it even |
15117s | though noran just fits the curb so |
15121s | well oh it's yeah you're right it's four |
15124s | already because there was even a holy |
15125s | spell |
15126s | played |
15131s | but you're you're facing up against a |
15133s | board yeah but the norgon isn't doing |
15136s | much either right what what do you do |
15137s | just kill the |
15141s | 43 yeah that's true and you lose your |
15143s | love |
15149s | everlasting not having an inquisitive |
15151s | creation to sort of answer back on this |
15154s | is definitely a tough spot for balance |
15162s | but a lot of times priests has |
15165s | symmetrical board clears so even though |
15169s | he may not have wanted to it was kind of |
15170s | forced into this Elemental inspiration |
15173s | it does present a bunch of stuff that Co |
15175s | has to address |
15182s | now going for a 10 no these are ones so |
15186s | that was probably a poisonous and then a |
15187s | deal |
15189s | too |
15195s | yep and I'd be a little surprised yeah |
15198s | if we didn't see this other synchronize |
15200s | coming down on the ignis uh cuz we are |
15202s | nearing that 10 point and a lot of the |
15204s | tens are very very good for what the |
15206s | priest wants to do here oh |
15216s | yeah |
15226s | no card draw no inquisitive creation |
15229s | this is just a a really weird spot for |
15234s | balance to be in right |
15235s | now yeah can make use of the uh wither |
15239s | to get that out of the way |
15243s | yep that only steals two though after |
15246s | you summon the skeletons |
15251s | yeah but it's still something |
15255s | yeah and it's another spell in the pool |
15259s | imulation |
15262s | Aura I don't believe we've done fell yet |
15266s | it actually might not even be bad to |
15268s | kill your own skeletons off right away |
15271s | if you or you could wither and then |
15273s | imulation right right and that's like |
15276s | okay lighting reflexes |
15279s | also |
15284s | fine doesn't add to the current number |
15287s | of spell schools though and uh not |
15289s | getting a terribly big clear here |
15295s | so perfect amanul onto the skeletons |
15301s | there |
15306s | potential all right let's see what the |
15308s | pick |
15309s | is |
15311s | World evil dragon |
15320s | Bane there's no fire spells in |
15323s | Priest |
15330s | so yeah Dragon band is really the only |
15333s | one that makes any sense whatsoever so |
15336s | it's not terrible |
15338s | it could be a little bit of damage like |
15339s | a last push of damage too yeah |
15341s | absolutely if need |
15343s | be try and put a little bit of pressure |
15347s | on and this is the power of love |
15350s | everlasting coage was not able to heal |
15353s | and so you know that forg molten Rune is |
15356s | just enough doubling the spell damage |
15359s | and uh yeah three instances |
15363s | that's 27 damage it's not even so |
15367s | something I was looking for because |
15369s | eight Mana is not really the turn you |
15371s | expect to SI but yeah like you said the |
15374s | love everlasting uh just able to let you |
15376s | do things |
15378s | that uh feel a little bit unfair at |
15381s | times and I that was like a decent game |
15385s | from coage too like there was a good |
15387s | amount of pressure good amount of tempo |
15391s | I mean lost a game with dirty rat in |
15393s | hand and ways to like answer C it had if |
15397s | it had come out with like a board in |
15400s | play uh that's the only sort of thing |
15403s | that you could point out that maybe |
15404s | could have been done differently is just |
15405s | ripping the dirty |
15407s | rat |
15408s | um but it's hard to expect that damage |
15412s | to come out I mean maybe the turn that |
15414s | the molten Rune was forged that could |
15416s | give you maybe a slight |
15418s | indication uh which was the previous |
15420s | turn as you set up for it um but that |
15423s | was it like that was the only like thing |
15425s | that said yeah you're he's going to kill |
15427s | me this turn so yeah it was maybe a |
15430s | slightly unusual spot for someone to to |
15432s | forge a molten Rune that maybe that |
15434s | could give you an indication uh perhaps |
15436s | I should dirty rat but I I think you |
15439s | know it maybe got carried away with |
15441s | playing the pressure game and was like |
15443s | well but I'm I'm keeping them on the |
15445s | back foot I'm not dead right and and as |
15448s | you say you're just not used to on that |
15451s | turn being dead to the sift from you |
15454s | know a fairly healthy life total at 25 |
15457s | but love everlasting just makes those |
15460s | plays |
15461s | happen it certainly |
15464s | does and now we get one step closer to a |
15467s | game five priest miror it's feels like |
15470s | at this point it's just |
15473s | inevitability um cuz both players just |
15476s | can't seem to get a win on the deck I |
15479s | prob be PR versus Rogue right now should |
15481s | it come to that there is one small |
15483s | Comfort which is that from what I see |
15486s | here Co does have sister swna in an |
15491s | Etc and ah I believe balance does not |
15496s | yeah there is no sister no Etc even or |
15500s | balance balance took more of a strictly |
15502s | like |
15504s | anti a sort of tech strategy without |
15507s | really thinking about the mirror cuz |
15510s | saalna is not super relevant most of the |
15513s | time I would say |
15515s | facing current metad decks besides |
15519s | another priest so I think I can I can |
15521s | respect hanging it out but of course |
15522s | then runs into the the one player where |
15524s | maybe it would matter if they end up in |
15526s | that |
15528s | mirror not something to be expected it's |
15531s | great for the value these uh priest |
15534s | mirors don't tend to really go to |
15536s | fatigue |
15538s | anymore um so like previously we used to |
15541s | see this game where both players would |
15543s | play towards fatigue and just try and |
15546s | pick as many drowns as |
15548s | possible um to make sure that they were |
15550s | winning in that race but I feel like you |
15552s | have access to enough big threats and |
15554s | and multiple Ines to where you know one |
15557s | player can can pull ahead a lot of the |
15560s | time uh in sort of those those board |
15563s | battles enough to put it on pressure to |
15565s | win |
15566s | so I mean the other unspeakable sort of |
15570s | outcome in those matchups was players |
15572s | using Finley to intentionally shuffle |
15574s | cards into their deck to do better in |
15578s | fatigue |
15581s | yep yeah it was uh brutal we didn't see |
15585s | that many though that was the the one |
15587s | Saving Grace for us they they were few |
15590s | and far between and you know every once |
15592s | in a while I can appreciate like those |
15593s | type of long stle games cuz you don't |
15595s | get to experience them much in like |
15596s | ranked play sure um because not many |
15599s | people are playing decks on ladder and |
15601s | then if you get into it they have to be |
15603s | like of equal skill level enough to get |
15605s | to that point in the game and then three |
15608s | you have to find someone willing to sit |
15609s | there and play it out cuz a lot of times |
15611s | one player will concede cuz they just |
15613s | want to save themselves some time when |
15615s | you're playing in rank so it really |
15617s | tests like that Hearthstone uh game |
15620s | knowledge right that the sort of |
15623s | instincts uh that you need um so we're |
15627s | not going to get it though it's going to |
15629s | be Rogue versus priest now again one |
15631s | step closer to the the mirror to end all |
15636s | mirrors see if that ends up being the |
15638s | case I feel like when these kinds of |
15642s | lineup uh matchups happen it puts me in |
15646s | this very awkward position of I never |
15647s | want to root for priest except that |
15650s | rooting for priest is what prevents me |
15652s | from having to deal with both players |
15654s | eventually being |
15656s | priest |
15663s | [Music] |
15665s | yep |
15668s | and uh balance his hand looking pretty |
15672s | good here I know if I'm on Rogue I |
15675s | definitely always like to start with |
15679s | potion |
15680s | belt I think that's a fine result |
15684s | right yeah I guess it's a bold choice |
15688s | but but a fine result yeah just a free 2 |
15691s | six no information I want to taunt into |
15694s | this 32 and I hope you don't have kboa |
15696s | right |
15699s | yep nicely |
15701s | navigated think good potion zacho is |
15705s | maybe yelling at the |
15707s | screen oh there's the |
15713s | graat would have had the cannibalize in |
15716s | two turns to be able to deal with it I |
15719s | suppose I know leaving a full crao up |
15721s | potentially for two turns would be |
15723s | pretty rough yeah kind of devastating |
15729s | [Music] |
15738s | oh yeah this is a hearstone hand right |
15742s | here location pass location pass I guess |
15747s | actually this is a great mixtape right |
15749s | because you're guaranteed to hit the |
15751s | cathedral really like that |
15755s | play |
15760s | Cathedral being used as intended for |
15762s | face |
15764s | [Music] |
15777s | damage sticky situation helping to kind |
15779s | of keep some semblance of pressure here |
15784s | you know the awkward thing for a rogue |
15785s | going against something like PR is bone |
15788s | Spike becomes a very challenging card to |
15793s | use |
15795s | yeah but I feel like it hasn't been too |
15799s | detrimental it's made |
15802s | things a little bit take a little bit |
15805s | longer like getting this private eye out |
15807s | but it wasn't even there yet |
15809s | so overall not the biggest of deals and |
15812s | can kind of just have his way with this |
15814s | early game get some tempo Co just has to |
15817s | decide |
15818s | now all right so now there's dirty rat |
15821s | and there's a cannibalize in hand right |
15824s | you can do the same turn |
15826s | yeah but not going to be the play uh cuz |
15830s | you're still not really answering the |
15831s | three fours that are on board and you |
15833s | just give them good trades into the |
15834s | dirty rat even if it did pull out |
15836s | something |
15837s | good so little surprised at the trade |
15840s | there which could potentially have |
15842s | triggered the uh double cross |
15851s | yeah kboa again another thing a lot |
15854s | worse when your opponent doesn't have a |
15855s | minion play you don't get to make that |
15857s | attack for |
15858s | four yeah play it on curve is quite good |
15862s | there we go we found our shadow step |
15865s | Target pack it |
15867s | up |
15868s | yeah see |
15871s | you you is it too greedy to n there's a |
15875s | cathedral I was going to say too greedy |
15876s | just hold it for a turn no just just go |
15878s | in three times right it also activates |
15881s | your queen ajara for next |
15883s | turn just get rid of the whole hand yeah |
15888s | end with a break |
15892s | dance cuz the ice barrier is going to be |
15894s | there next turn also yeah you're still |
15897s | going to have a |
15898s | secret yeah I mean the ice barrier was |
15900s | just there as something that was never |
15901s | going to get proed and also is a mage |
15903s | secret that has to be played |
15905s | around |
15912s | oh that's just |
15917s | rude better play that power cord |
15920s | synchronize cuz it's you're losing the |
15929s | hand where is their game plan this game |
15931s | is just emptying each other's hands okay |
15933s | oh synchronize on the queen of Shara I |
15936s | do like like this uh cuz Co is not |
15938s | working with much here so trying to get |
15941s | some additional value out of cards |
15942s | outside of just dirty ring everything |
15945s | but he's on three cards he knows it's |
15947s | not sticking |
15950s | around oh unless unless we're taking a |
15952s | break for |
15954s | kboa yeah definitely it's a solid kboa |
15957s | break going on right now I guess you can |
15960s | wait until a couple of spells have been |
15962s | played before you steal the queen aara |
15964s | because it's ly not active I |
15970s | think oh never |
15972s | mind just do all of the |
15976s | things at this point you take |
15978s | cannibalize Queen ofar doesn't matter if |
15980s | it doesn't activate yeah and still needs |
15982s | two more spells for it so even if |
15984s | there's a spell drawn off the top that's |
15986s | playable oh okay F this is |
15991s | just like the the peak of annoyance out |
15996s | of this rogue deck you know normally I |
15999s | think people would be most frustrated at |
16003s | what priest has to do I think secret |
16006s | Rogue brings to the table an element |
16008s | that players are finally like no no this |
16010s | is not |
16013s | okay this is a perfect game to Showcase |
16016s | it uh is alive at |
16020s | three oh no at 1 okay now at |
16025s | four um |
16027s | draw first and then you don't hit |
16029s | anything yeah you just land prison here |
16031s | I think mhm for sure yeah prison prison |
16033s | for sure absolutely y it's always lethal |
16036s | no no there we go oh no it |
16038s | actually yeah found the line there still |
16042s | I stick by my uh by my call there you |
16044s | definitely slam prison no one can tell |
16046s | us that prison wasn't lethal since it |
16049s | wasn't played yeah so multiple ways to |
16052s | lethal actually prison probably |
16054s | represents more of a lethal more damage |
16057s | the psychic damage it's it's the mental |
16060s | damage yeah but that's uh three games so |
16064s | far this series and uh three priest |
16066s | losses uh so far this series doing some |
16070s | serious damage to that win rate |
16073s | yep oh yeah that's where that's where we |
16077s | are right now just Sunday final day the |
16080s | master tour fall |
16081s | Championship hanging |
16083s | around watching priest lose that's uh |
16087s | exactly how I expected my Sunday to go |
16090s | but TJ Sunday is a fun day come |
16093s | on yeah it's fun for the player in each |
16097s | individual game that's not playing |
16099s | priest and then in game five when it's |
16100s | inevitably build priest then it's not |
16102s | fun for anybody |
16104s | so that's where we are right now I can |
16106s | imagine we're going to see priest versus |
16107s | Rogue in this next game |
16112s | um so we're getting there is like that |
16116s | yeah nice little lethal spot at the end |
16118s | if I had looked at that for like 45 more |
16120s | seconds I would have seen it if my brain |
16124s | had not already slammed the prison I |
16126s | mean realistically like Whirlpool could |
16129s | have come down there for Co and had it |
16132s | not been a lethal that turn and there |
16134s | still would have been very low odds of |
16136s | winning that game yeah not much you can |
16140s | really do maybe was could have been an |
16144s | ignis potentially I don't even know if |
16145s | there was the card for that game um it's |
16148s | blending together with the previous |
16149s | priest game but balances one game away |
16153s | with the priest they do they really do |
16155s | always blend together that is absolutely |
16163s | true all |
16165s | right is this the one is going to be |
16167s | playing the RO someone has to not play |
16169s | okay all right is the you can do it |
16171s | balance you've got |
16174s | this there's so much on the line rooting |
16178s | for no other reason than that no one |
16180s | wants to see priest |
16186s | Mir there's probably few out there who |
16191s | do it's all right they understand at |
16195s | least |
16198s | yeah |
16199s | Chu I see you've brought |
16205s | guest |
16216s | I don't know between the clergy and the |
16218s | armor vendor |
16220s | and |
16223s | yeah clergy has higher immediate upside |
16227s | and the armor vendor potentially has |
16230s | higher long-term |
16232s | upside obviously entirely dependent on |
16234s | the game state if you can copy it |
16237s | to get a little bit of Health to live an |
16239s | otherwise lethal situation then maybe |
16241s | but yeah I mean I think playing the |
16244s | clergy on one is where you you do the |
16247s | most in terms of threatening the |
16248s | opponent with you getting value and |
16251s | so uh you know had there |
16255s | been a magnetic like a poisonous |
16257s | magnetic there then you could expect it |
16259s | would have been played to kill the |
16260s | clergy |
16265s | yeah |
16266s | [Music] |
16271s | of course now is that card worth |
16285s | it very curious to hear the thought |
16287s | process here for balance like what he's |
16290s | debating |
16292s | between I mean I think it's between hero |
16294s | power or like coining the holy NOA |
16297s | cuz Hol NOA often doesn't get a ton of |
16300s | value in this match up it can but very |
16304s | frequently you know the the Rogue is |
16305s | just all about making a big minion and |
16307s | so uh doing two damage to the board |
16309s | isn't really doing a whole |
16311s | lot yeah I mean I could have also seen |
16315s | just like armor vendor like pass yeah |
16319s | just to have multiple attacks on the |
16320s | board to be able to clean up like this |
16322s | uh small mechs and also with like Shard |
16325s | the Naru in hand it allows you to clean |
16327s | up the mechs after they're silenced |
16330s | potentially um |
16333s | so but Tri the Naru is such a premium |
16335s | card it's hard to know like |
16340s | fully when to use it and I feel like |
16343s | that's a often times a big deal in this |
16345s | matchup a lot of times when you can |
16347s | clear the board simultaneously to be |
16349s | able to keep the X clear but now we have |
16351s | two so we can be a little bit more |
16353s | liberal with our usage yeah and and |
16355s | there getting the uh solid holy NOA that |
16359s | I wasn't sure if it would come or not uh |
16361s | Pop Quiz TJ I should have done this |
16362s | earlier when there were two Blues but |
16364s | what are the spark bots in |
16366s | hand this is terrible for someone who's |
16368s | color blind oh no I'm so |
16374s | sorry uh the I don't know there's a one |
16378s | of the blue ones and two of the green |
16380s | ones I don't know which blue it is |
16383s | they're so close green it is in color |
16385s | right so the earlier like kind of |
16387s | lighter blue one that got played of |
16388s | course was the reborn this is the wind |
16390s | Fury and then we've got poisonous and |
16393s | stealth I was going to I was actually |
16395s | going to go with reborn that was going |
16397s | to be my 5050 guess but I would have |
16399s | been incorrect now to be fair I'm not as |
16400s | colorblind as Brian |
16402s | Kibler |
16404s | um who's like three magnitudes has three |
16408s | magnitudes worse color blindness than I |
16410s | do o I mean this is the kind of deck |
16414s | that the Rogue is is right you can hedge |
16417s | a little bit you know putting one of |
16419s | them onto the enhanc attic but no matter |
16422s | what you can't really play around sh of |
16424s | the Naru and uh this has got to be one |
16426s | of the more polarized matchups there |
16430s | is so understand Co wanting to just kind |
16432s | of try and get it out of the way you |
16435s | know you hope that The Shard is not |
16437s | there but if it is there's not a whole |
16440s | lot you can |
16444s | do |
16447s | now this is going to be |
16451s | tough cuz now there's going to be |
16454s | multiple turns where Co is just trying |
16456s | to set up yeah trying to find like a |
16459s | spoter there's a couple things that he |
16461s | has to hope for he has to Hope or he can |
16462s | make a push before turn eight warpool |
16464s | comes online and also has to hope that |
16466s | the second sh of the Nar is not there |
16469s | yeah well turns out both of those things |
16470s | are not the case so uh going to be in a |
16474s | world of hurt we got Rush double wind |
16477s | Fury so uh you know reasonable there get |
16482s | to rush in the Divine Shield take out |
16484s | the 32 push in for eight but I mean |
16488s | there's just a wealth of of answers here |
16491s | in terms of sh of the Naru cannibalize I |
16494s | mean there's just so many tools that |
16497s | priest has access to that make the Rogue |
16500s | miserable it's sort of unless you can |
16502s | kind of catch them with their pants down |
16504s | in those first few turns uh it's it does |
16508s | not get better after turn |
16510s | [Music] |
16526s | five I |
16528s | wonder balance in a great position but |
16531s | just trying to figure out the most |
16532s | efficient way to spend Mana |
16534s | here |
16537s | I mean I think the love everlasting |
16539s | coming into the hand is is a little bit |
16541s | of the the question like you're always |
16543s | want to get that down as soon as you can |
16545s | but it means going for shard instead of |
16548s | cannibalize here |
16550s | and |
16552s | cannibalize while you know really good |
16555s | for dealing with a buffed minion does |
16558s | have the issue of if there is a stealth |
16561s | you're not able to Target it whereas you |
16563s | know Shard of thear of course gets |
16564s | around that problem |
16572s | yeah but getting the love everlasting |
16573s | online does open up World Pools as early |
16575s | as next |
16580s | turn I don't know about you but I have |
16582s | not been loving the speaker Stompers |
16585s | this weekend at least in the |
16592s | Rogue |
16593s | yeah it feels like either a dead card or |
16596s | a win more card in a lot of |
16599s | situations um but maybe we're just |
16602s | seeing too small of a sample |
16608s | size get a good read on it I don't know |
16611s | it doesn't even look like it's doing |
16612s | anything this turn because it's balanced |
16614s | out by the love |
16617s | everlasting |
16619s | yeah at least not for the first |
16623s | spell all right |
16626s | that's a good one okay |
16629s | yep we're we're a turn away from |
16632s | Whirlpool though U mimran could have |
16635s | could have been used |
16643s | earlier now Co I think is is in kind of |
16647s | Allin mode right he seen two shards he |
16651s | seen uh I believe one |
16654s | cannibalize uh |
16657s | yes but of course the whirlpool |
16659s | shatterer of Dreams here reduced by the |
16662s | love |
16664s | everlasting I mean I think you had to |
16666s | play the mimran there right you just you |
16668s | got to |
16668s | go |
16673s | yeah but with second WHL poool loaded up |
16676s | I mean balance at this point could just |
16678s | like run Co out of cards like |
16681s | that's not even just win the game but |
16683s | just completely neutralize every card |
16686s | that Co has I mean all that |
16690s | said there is a a risk of the Prime |
16696s | coming down at some point in |
16698s | here and balance has not been able to to |
16701s | hero power gain life for for many turns |
16705s | so it's getting you know a little bit |
16708s | danger |
16710s | territory this is |
16713s | true can F in a hero power |
16720s | here if Whirlpool would be the option |
16723s | which kind of has to be with the life |
16725s | total |
16730s | here |
16732s | yep so Co just got to be thinking all |
16735s | right |
16736s | that's that's got to be that's |
16738s | everything right that's got to be |
16740s | everything no more yeah frequency |
16742s | oscillator not not the turn nine pickup |
16744s | you want as the Rogue uh Rog yeah this |
16748s | 62 so far on on day two uh and has won |
16752s | five straight games but I think that |
16754s | streak is about to |
16761s | end there's so many good hits here yeah |
16765s | Am On th is one armor vendor is another |
16770s | honestly yeah just to be super |
16774s | safe |
16777s | right yeah you can just double armor |
16779s | vendor Shore up that that healing you're |
16782s | concerned about finally there's a minion |
16785s | that light it burns is actually able to |
16788s | clear weave in the hero power or just |
16792s | play the second in location yeah World |
16794s | Zer waser at this point if you're |
16797s | priest that's that should very well be |
16802s | it too much life gained Co on the back |
16804s | foot not many resources left whatsoever |
16808s | okay there's the prime but it's it's |
16810s | about to turn too late |
16813s | yeah if that was picked up last turn |
16815s | maybe a |
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16827s | shot yeah I was going to say you kind of |
16829s | have to go for more value here |
16833s | yep okay spoter yeah spider's good but |
16837s | can't quite play it this |
16845s | turn and I think between the the two |
16848s | attacks and dissonant plus Holly NOA |
16851s | there is another clear there's even |
16853s | potential |
16855s | for you know power |
16857s | cord on the |
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16864s | Voltron |
16866s | prep |
16867s | sure oh wait it was on the six damage |
16869s | side yeah yeah so I don't even need the |
16874s | Nova gets a squirrel to boot I think the |
16877s | only reason Co is still you know in this |
16879s | game is because it's not |
16881s | ladder |
16886s | yeah and now effectively has to wait for |
16889s | the spider like that that's it and even |
16892s | then it's just feels like it's not going |
16894s | to get there I mean balance doesn't |
16895s | really have much to do but even just |
16898s | these couple small minions will |
16900s | eventually uh be able to close it out Co |
16903s | rubbing the eyes knowing |
16906s | that this will soon come to an end oh |
16909s | that's I mean that's just salt in the |
16910s | wound seeing your |
16913s | opponent get an extra copy of Prince |
16915s | renial just for for |
16918s | pressure just for a 3 four like just a |
16921s | just a spider tank okay one one of the |
16924s | better remaining top deex but I mean |
16927s | when you're at this point where both |
16929s | gear shifts are gone so it's it's really |
16931s | just about your top card every turn uh |
16935s | there's there's really just no keeping |
16937s | up with uh all the value that that |
16940s | priest has available to it |
16944s | yeah add a minions though I mean that's |
16947s | the yep oh there's |
16954s | ignis this is uh dredge though so no |
16958s | reduction for picking the ignis but with |
16960s | the location in play you are able to get |
16963s | that ignis |
16967s | immediately I think just lock in any |
16970s | defensive options it'll probably be a |
16977s | five let's get out of the way right |
16980s | now is that 10 yeah 10 yeah all right |
16983s | sure yeah 10 NOA just just try it would |
16987s | have been perfectly fine yep are are we |
16989s | done here like come |
16993s | on yeah for for Co you got you got to |
16996s | feel you know wanting to to play it out |
16999s | have as much time uh on broadcast in the |
17002s | master tour as possible but it it's you |
17004s | know these are those kind of |
17005s | heartbreaking ends that why uh control |
17008s | priest tends to be the |
17012s | villain also could it just take once |
17014s | they get ahead it just takes them some |
17016s | time to win the game yes |
17019s | yeah like they give you small bits of |
17022s | Hope here and there but that's the end |
17024s | of the deck so is it just spider and oh |
17027s | my |
17033s | goodness this might actually have been a |
17035s | little bit scary two turns |
17041s | ago |
17043s | but yeah seeing the lethal damage on |
17046s | board Coit finally decides to pack it in |
17050s | um you know Valiant effort sticking |
17052s | through to the end just on the off |
17054s | chance that that you know maybe there |
17056s | was something but uh balance going to |
17059s | going to take the win there and you |
17061s | know CO's loss is our gain in that we |
17065s | have dodged the priest |
17068s | Mir we did yeah uh priest still took |
17071s | quite the beating uh in that series for |
17075s | sure um there was a priest in every game |
17077s | and it only won in the very last one so |
17081s | not sure if that bodess well for balance |
17085s | moving into the |
17086s | semi-finals uh later this afternoon |
17089s | later this evening whatever time zone |
17091s | you're |
17091s | in um but seems like playing the decks |
17095s | well and the other decks are are taking |
17097s | wins um and that's the kind of position |
17100s | that he needs to to put himself in um |
17102s | but the last priest remaining in the |
17104s | tournament now I believe with ream being |
17106s | eliminated now Co also being |
17108s | eliminated uh has to rep for the the |
17111s | priest players in this tournament which |
17114s | is you know a huge weight on balance's |
17117s | shoulders do we count WV among priest |
17121s | players in that number that was a a |
17124s | purple priest I don't know if that no |
17126s | absolutely that's a priest reim is a |
17129s | Bonafide priest enjoyer and don't ever |
17133s | let him forget it that's |
17136s | uh that's a |
17138s | fact and one that he'll never be able to |
17141s | escape I don't think he even really |
17143s | necessarily agreed with the priest |
17144s | choice but couldn't find anything better |
17146s | in the two days that these players had |
17149s | to prepare on the new patch which it |
17151s | always happens this way like the |
17153s | smallest patches I guess this one wasn't |
17155s | that small in the grand scheme of things |
17157s | but um basically one deck being brought |
17161s | down and Rogue being slightly brought |
17163s | down cuz they were |
17165s | also in a user of two of the carts that |
17168s | were uh taking a hit from Rogue still |
17171s | like on fire both |
17174s | variations uh on fire we actually had |
17176s | three variations technically in this |
17177s | tournament cuz I think there was one |
17178s | like old school Miracle Rogue player but |
17182s | the top eight yeah the one hold out um |
17185s | but both seet Rogue and Mech Rogue |
17188s | firing all cylinders like feels like |
17189s | they can't lose the game as you |
17190s | mentioned with the stat that you said |
17191s | earlier uh with the win rate um |
17194s | especially today's that's out six games |
17195s | in a row that we've seen from from Rogue |
17197s | uh that are |
17198s | W yeah it's now so it's now 72 on day |
17202s | two Rogue is and is now won six straight |
17205s | well no no cuz cuz Rogue finally broke |
17208s | the streak there Rogue finally lost so |
17210s | oh Rogue finally lost oh yeah it was on |
17212s | five straight wins and then lost to the |
17214s | you play you play one squirrel and all |
17216s | of a sudden I think you're a rogue one |
17219s | squirrel and all of a sudden I think |
17220s | you're a rogue yeah you're absolutely |
17221s | right got that backwards I was just so |
17223s | accustomed to priest losing I was like |
17224s | there's no way that priest would have |
17226s | lost there yeah and I think the the |
17229s | priest is is rubbing off on us a little |
17231s | bit from seeing it so much we've been' |
17233s | been going on quite long but we are |
17235s | going to go to a break and uh be back |
17237s | with the uh first semi-final match after |
17241s | this catch you |
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17523s | hello everyone and welcome back we've |
17525s | got semifinal number one coming up for |
17527s | you in just a few minutes but what a day |
17530s | it's been already subtle as we're about |
17532s | to get into Hemlock versus pocket |
17534s | train yeah with the the standard we've |
17537s | had so far it's amazing that things |
17539s | could even be considered to be going |
17540s | upwards but uh I think it is I think |
17543s | this is the match to be looking forward |
17545s | to I think these are the two players um |
17548s | out of this year's system overall um |
17551s | we'll really dig in deeper later as just |
17553s | to how impressive these two players are |
17555s | pocket train in particular just that |
17557s | little Cut Above I would add to that as |
17559s | well but we are now in top four stages |
17563s | semifinals of the last chance for direct |
17566s | qualification through to that world |
17568s | championship yeah of course and just in |
17571s | case you were you know just tuning in or |
17573s | haven't quite caught some of the |
17574s | discussion around it h this isn't the |
17576s | only way to qualify for the World |
17578s | Championship this is just the guaranteed |
17580s | way to do it um which is to finish first |
17583s | place of in this Master's tour but there |
17585s | are um Top Cut points going in as well |
17588s | so points gained basically throughout |
17589s | the year um to be able to qualify to |
17591s | fill up those last spots that are |
17593s | available for the world championship so |
17595s | still lot to play for for these players |
17597s | but of course the number one goal for |
17600s | them this year is to win a master's tour |
17602s | to just get that |
17604s | guaranteed yeah and you can see hemlocks |
17606s | route to attempting to do just that I |
17609s | think Hemlock to me number two player on |
17611s | the circuit this year overall um he has |
17614s | put in some fantastic performances as |
17617s | has Rogue as a class so far in this |
17620s | tournament really deciding to already |
17622s | showing to be the a big winner for the |
17624s | players who have brought it uh which is |
17626s | most of them to be fair but I think the |
17628s | debate may still rage um between the |
17632s | mech Rogue and the secret Rogue and how |
17634s | things break down you see hemlocks |
17636s | version of the deck here uh is still |
17639s | choosing to include uh prison breaker |
17641s | even after the Nerf which you know Fair |
17644s | enough and I think also a single copy of |
17645s | break dance in there as well a |
17648s | particularly interesting card to look |
17649s | out yeah I think the big difference for |
17652s | me with the Rogue so far has been um |
17655s | probably expected but when Mech Rogue |
17657s | wins it feels like it really wins but |
17659s | when it loses it feels like it really |
17662s | loses um whereas I feel like the secet |
17664s | Rogue um at least at surface level looks |
17668s | to always have a way to get back into |
17670s | the game H we'll see how it's been going |
17672s | for pocket train of course of course um |
17674s | what a journey pocket Train's been on |
17677s | over the last I guess couple of years at |
17679s | this point especially um and it's been |
17681s | going well for him so far wants to just |
17683s | sort of seal this uh World Championship |
17685s | spot up with today without having to |
17687s | worry about anything going on with |
17689s | points yeah I feel like uh the Journey |
17692s | of pocket train is a nice way of putting |
17694s | it I feel like pocket has like aged |
17696s | about seven years in the last 2 years |
17698s | just from the pure stress of playing |
17700s | high level Hearthstone um as well and as |
17703s | often as he has over that time we did |
17705s | just see him there on the shaman |
17707s | although we are looking at the Mage |
17709s | pocket train interestingly I think is |
17710s | one of the few players who's kind of not |
17712s | suffered the shaman curse so far this |
17714s | tournament his Shaman has his Shaman |
17716s | play has seemed pretty smooth he's kind |
17718s | of got it out of the series and the way |
17719s | he's needed to um but this rainbow Mage |
17723s | I think has been perhaps the success |
17724s | story of the tournament right uh |
17726s | although no one really would have found |
17729s | that to be unexpected right I think |
17731s | generally people coming into this |
17733s | tournament um if you put a little bit of |
17735s | thought into it you would I think we |
17737s | most people would get as far as Warrior |
17739s | Bann a lot Mage winning a lot I think a |
17741s | lot of people would have got over that |
17743s | yeah I'm with you I was just going to |
17744s | add exactly if you're expecting Warrior |
17747s | to be banned one way or the other |
17749s | whether it's OD him whether it's in Rage |
17751s | or whatever then you would just put Mage |
17753s | like yes okay there's a reason pretty |
17755s | much everyone brought it there's a |
17756s | reason pretty much every single player |
17758s | brought the same style of Mage and |
17761s | that's because it's just extremely |
17763s | strong and uh it gets the job done as |
17765s | proven time and time again through the |
17767s | matches we've seen but we can see both |
17769s | players getting ready they must feel so |
17772s | close but still so far away subtle right |
17775s | cuz like yes when you're in the finals |
17777s | you know it's that last match but semis |
17779s | you think I've got to win this one and |
17782s | then even if I do there's still one more |
17784s | so even though they've got so far to get |
17787s | to this exact point to make it to top |
17790s | four it still feels so far away yeah yes |
17794s | and it's a familiar story for both of |
17796s | these players I talked a lot already |
17798s | about how good their records are overall |
17800s | but just to break it all down so three |
17802s | major Masters Tour events so far this |
17804s | year right Hemlock was fifth through eth |
17807s | in Spring he was fifth through eth in |
17809s | summer and he's top four again now he's |
17812s | also fifth overall in the actual point |
17814s | standings that you get from the ladder |
17816s | finishes to get to this point which can |
17818s | then just get you through to the world |
17819s | championship in like a second chance |
17821s | Last Chance kind of thing if you don't |
17822s | win The Masters Tour right incredible |
17824s | record but then when I talk about pocket |
17826s | just being a cut above that pocket third |
17829s | fourth in Spring runner up in summer and |
17832s | now top four again and is tied for first |
17836s | overall in the number of points um |
17838s | gained through ladder finishes so both |
17840s | of these players have incredible records |
17842s | incredible levels of consistency and |
17845s | we've talked about this for years and |
17847s | years and years consistency is really |
17849s | the marker of great Hearthstone players |
17851s | and there really isn't anyone who's been |
17852s | more consistent than the these two |
17854s | players this year but when you talk |
17855s | about how okay now this is top four but |
17858s | we still have to push it that extra step |
17861s | to make this 10 months of work that |
17863s | we've put in actually worth it and to |
17866s | hold that world championship invitation |
17868s | in our hands as if it was a tangible |
17871s | object which it isn't but ignore that um |
17874s | this is another Harry Potter reference |
17875s | is there an owl going to deliver the |
17876s | world championship inite or something |
17879s | AIO World Championships no um but yeah |
17882s | they like both of these players have |
17884s | fallen at the last hurdle right is the |
17886s | point I'm making here they have both |
17888s | consistently got very very close but |
17891s | then just haven't quite made it over the |
17892s | line of the last step well let's dive |
17896s | straight in it's going to be Rogue on |
17897s | the top for hemlock and pocket train |
17900s | going to be sitting on that Mage and we |
17902s | have a bit of a wild game one |
17905s | subtle yes indeed double shifter zerus |
17910s | one of them already been gobbled up by |
17912s | Hemlock on the other side uh does find |
17916s | amusingly a second copy of private eye |
17918s | in the hand from the shifter Z that's |
17920s | fun yeah this is probably one of the |
17922s | more wild anomalies right you see like |
17924s | oh you know plus one Health every turn |
17927s | or both Heroes get plus one attack this |
17929s | is like oh both players just get two |
17932s | shifter zeros could be anything let's go |
17935s | what I will say like just in case anyone |
17936s | is watching this who is primarily a |
17938s | Battlegrounds player who has experienced |
17940s | the similar anomaly in Battlegrounds |
17942s | it's it's a little bit different in |
17944s | construed because in Battlegrounds your |
17946s | zerus will just transform into a six |
17947s | drop and then you have a six drop right |
17949s | like that that's that's just it you |
17951s | could have a six drop on turn three or |
17953s | whatever how you can't if you get like |
17955s | some massive game impacting crazy card |
17958s | it's probably going to cost a lot of |
17960s | Mana right so that doesn't end up having |
17962s | a huge impact in the early game honestly |
17965s | a lot of the time I play this anomaly |
17967s | it's just a frustration that I have two |
17969s | extra cards in my hand like you know |
17971s | just for hand space issues cuz generally |
17973s | play Decks that draw a lot of cards um |
17975s | but certainly things can have a big big |
17977s | impact if you hit the right say that's |
17979s | why I think like the way Hemlock has |
17982s | whether chosen to or not or just made |
17985s | that decision at the time but oh just |
17988s | play a card that you can play right it's |
17990s | not a negative get one out on one as a |
17992s | one three that you didn't have regard |
17994s | you know you wouldn't have had otherwise |
17996s | right so like yeah just play it get it |
17998s | out the hand and it's still beneficial |
18000s | not I think the goal of of utilizing |
18002s | these kind of on what you said is not to |
18005s | make like oh this this um zeros has won |
18008s | me the game but it's more oh this is |
18011s | just an extra card to plop down p a |
18013s | little bit more pressure on when |
18014s | otherwise I wouldn't have necessarily |
18016s | been able to so like hey just two extra |
18018s | little minions right like it's fine a |
18020s | little bit of synergy as well God tier |
18022s | Synergy your putride is a two4 Now |
18025s | Incredible scenes but if you look at |
18028s | both these players positions now |
18030s | hemlocks got the zerus out and is piling |
18033s | on the pressure is that Fierce outside |
18035s | of crimson sigil Runner it is right |
18037s | that's fun okay big |
18041s | fan pocket train is going to now defend |
18045s | get rid of the putride himself well it's |
18047s | it's a pretty intense Tempo swing right |
18049s | because you actually get the double |
18050s | value from the putri side as |
18053s | well which is really really nice |
18056s | obviously the putri side gets cleaned up |
18057s | very easily here with the two one Health |
18058s | Minions on board but you actually just |
18060s | get a full mix concoction out of that |
18062s | play from uh from pocket think was a |
18063s | really nice spot yeah both players just |
18066s | making the most out of what they've got |
18067s | right |
18074s | mhm pocket did get a hazy as well pocket |
18076s | is a uh is long renowned as a fan of of |
18079s | hazy |
18083s | concoctions going as far as to say on |
18086s | numerous occasions that it is always |
18092s | hazy going to get cleaned up nothing too |
18095s | crazy going on but does get that 43 on |
18097s | board which is going to be you know at |
18099s | least you maybe for hemlock trade trade |
18102s | fairly with the 3 |
18106s | three both players just using these |
18108s | early turns is s of shimmy for |
18118s | position I |
18122s | wonder |
18127s | okay might the leap ahead on board |
18130s | presence here for pocket train to use |
18132s | discovery of magic or history of magic |
18134s | or whatever else you want to try and |
18136s | call it to give him a few more options |
18138s | going forward in the next few turns not |
18139s | too bad at all especially with the |
18141s | inquisitive creation just sat there cuz |
18144s | to me that's it might sound a bit stupid |
18147s | but that's when it feels most powerful |
18149s | is when you've just got it sat waiting |
18151s | and ready to go right not when you've |
18153s | had to throw it out for an emergency |
18154s | clear but when it's just sat there and |
18156s | you know that yeah more or Le you know |
18159s | most boards I can just clear away kind |
18160s | of |
18164s | effortlessly it's not a particularly |
18167s | familiar Rogue hand on the other side |
18169s | from hemlock is it just a bunch of |
18171s | Minions that all cost quite a lot of |
18172s | Mana it's not really what you associate |
18175s | with playing |
18177s | Rogue would you like some cards with |
18179s | your |
18181s | cards yeah |
18184s | just a little awkward no real smooth |
18186s | options with you know you're not firing |
18188s | off zero Mana concoctions no crazy |
18190s | Shadow step synergies happening here |
18192s | it's just a handful of uh fairly |
18195s | mediocre mid-range |
18199s | minions yeah the prison break's probably |
18203s | not too far is probably too far away |
18206s | right even with the prep like prep |
18208s | concoction that's probably I don't think |
18210s | there's been that many spells has there |
18214s | uh no Hemlock spent a lot of mana on |
18216s | playing the uh the zerus minions so I |
18219s | wouldn't have thought so I think |
18221s | whatever this turn looks like hemlocks |
18223s | just thinking what gives me the best |
18225s | krabat TOA next turn that's what I would |
18228s | be looking at |
18231s | anyway Tess okay |
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18237s | sure again it's that kind of thing like |
18239s | Tess is a card that could be kind of |
18241s | crazy for rainbow mage great you spend a |
18243s | lot of time playing uh discovery of |
18245s | magic and Prismatic Elementals and |
18247s | getting cards from different classes but |
18249s | again it's a situation I was talking |
18250s | about before because it's constructed |
18252s | shift ASAS you do need the amount of |
18254s | Mana required to play the card you can't |
18256s | just jam it and play it |
18267s | right and already now pocket just |
18270s | getting himself in a fantastic position |
18272s | you know way ahead on board Hemlock not |
18274s | really been able to really challenge it |
18277s | while still having plenty of juice in |
18278s | the tank as well in the hand has no gun |
18280s | in available for next turn on curve has |
18284s | um said unstable Elemental or something |
18286s | I just made up the name of a card I |
18288s | think but Elemental inspiration is what |
18290s | I meant uh for the followup so the whole |
18292s | board pressure is there um it's just |
18294s | missing just maybe a little bit of burn |
18295s | options from |
18301s | hand |
18304s | I imagine this is krabat |
18306s | TOA I think what Myra is the closest to |
18309s | that actually being a card wasn't that |
18311s | the actual name of that card Myra's |
18313s | unstable element the the draw the rest |
18315s | of your Deck card where I've got it from |
18317s | yeah but everyone just called it Myas |
18319s | right might even be wrong on |
18326s | that oh got to go for prison breaker |
18329s | instead okay look at that nerfed card in |
18332s | full effect having to do so much extra |
18335s | work to deal with this board State and I |
18337s | think it's something the pocket had |
18338s | understood and was leveraging for |
18341s | basically every turn up until that point |
18343s | like yes the prison breaker was not uh |
18345s | active because of the amount of Mana |
18347s | that was spent on minions early from |
18348s | hemlock but pocket train just had no |
18350s | real fear of just playing three Mana |
18352s | spells and feral spirits and whatever |
18353s | else and just getting a whole board full |
18355s | of three Health minions not a thing that |
18357s | would have been game-winning pre- |
18359s | balance patch all right let's see the |
18362s | exposive Run come out now and going to |
18363s | go for shooting star number 500 today |
18366s | it's going to help clear up some of the |
18368s | boards leave the 4 one |
18375s | though not really the best is it the |
18378s | best offerings I've ever seen no Arcane |
18381s | Defenders obviously will end up as a |
18383s | seven Mana card but when it's fight |
18386s | fighting for attention with elemental |
18388s | inspiration it seems a little bit |
18390s | underwhelming did go for it okay |
18396s | yeah just not really good |
18398s | choices yeah I was wondering if just |
18400s | noing a card just as a backup plan maybe |
18404s | was ever worthwhile but yeah you know |
18407s | Echo your thoughts not the best choices |
18415s | overall really slow turn overall from |
18417s | pocket decent amount of value but it's |
18420s | going to mean Hemlock gets to just pile |
18422s | on some of this pressure right now and |
18424s | going to deal significant damage yeah it |
18427s | is significant damage good damage being |
18429s | pushed with the uh actual blingtron |
18431s | effect MC blingtron my second favorite |
18434s | MC in this tournament after MC banter |
18442s | phas you know that got me when I knew it |
18444s | was coming I still sort of half chuckled |
18446s | to myself |
18451s | mhm |
18462s | not going to be a little bit tricky I |
18463s | mean again crap TOA just seems good |
18467s | right to just push reasonable amounts of |
18469s | damage again will get hold of the board |
18471s | I think trying to get aelor down doesn't |
18474s | really scream proactive to |
18481s | me |
18484s | it goes back to your point about the uh |
18486s | the inquisitive creation just chilling |
18488s | in hand though right like if it wasn't |
18489s | there if that if that safety blanket |
18491s | wasn't there Hemlock pushed a lot of |
18494s | damage stuck a nice board and if you |
18496s | know Mage just kind of had to play into |
18497s | that and not clear it suddenly you'd be |
18499s | looking at you know a couple of uh |
18501s | damage discovers from this potion belt |
18503s | and you might be just pushing lethal for |
18505s | hemlock but inquisitive creation is just |
18507s | such a good card for maintaining control |
18509s | of these |
18511s | things |
18514s | the crab is going to come to |
18517s | play would you say krabat TOA has been |
18519s | the most impactful Colossus now that |
18522s | we're you know many long time down the |
18524s | line |
18525s | impactful no like yeah I'm going to be |
18528s | very pedantic over your choice of words |
18530s | like most most ubiquitous maybe most |
18534s | common like it just it it does just seem |
18536s | to show up in just about every rogue |
18538s | deck after time people sometimes argue |
18540s | about whether or not it should be in |
18542s | some rogue deck |
18549s | andal does that not make it the most |
18551s | impactful possibly in every deck |
18556s | yeah I'm just saying like the actual |
18558s | impact of it hitting the board on a |
18560s | caseby casee basis is fairly low because |
18563s | it's cheaper than others right which |
18565s | guess you could AR the way you said that |
18567s | then talking about words I'm just |
18569s | thinking like does the graphical and |
18571s | sound effect make it hit the board |
18573s | harder than some of the other some of |
18575s | the other Colossus it's like I don't |
18577s | know down deep Rabbit Hole ask one of |
18580s | those various Psychopaths that still |
18582s | have screen Shake on after this time oh |
18585s | probably the best change task done |
18586s | that's ever happened was when that |
18588s | option it some of the things used to |
18589s | actually make me feel sick honestly if |
18591s | you still have screen Shake on you're a |
18593s | bad person it's as simple as that I'm |
18595s | sorry I just being honest I hate to |
18597s | break it to |
18599s | you I'm sorry you had to find out this |
18601s | way |
18607s | wow remember when uh who was it |
18609s | yesterday that went fishing needing |
18610s | exactly double damage for lethal and hit |
18612s | it and then Hemlock needing double |
18614s | damage for lethal got neither of them |
18616s | right does get the consolation prize of |
18618s | draw four |
18622s | though it's kind of strange isn't it |
18624s | because we can see that pocket does not |
18627s | have a high burn aggressive hand but |
18629s | Hemlock just doesn't know that right |
18632s | it's kind of kind of tricky Hemlock has |
18634s | a couple of ideas on some of the cards |
18635s | OB he knows the elemental knows the |
18637s | zerus knows the Infiniti other than that |
18641s | I don't think anything's a sure thing |
18642s | here but he has managed to build a bit |
18643s | of a board gain some of that armor as |
18646s | well which is going to push him up 17 |
18648s | which makes him feel at least half safe |
18650s | you would |
18653s | say |
18655s | rag play it I mean come |
18659s | on take us back to what was it worlds |
18661s | 2016 |
18666s | mhm I remember there was a really good |
18669s | play in that tourament I can't remember |
18671s | who it was specifically but someone |
18673s | represented not having rag for quite a |
18675s | long time to bait the other rag out of |
18677s | the opponent's hand first so that they |
18679s | could rag the rag and then just you know |
18681s | they won rag tennis essentially is what |
18684s | they did it was really |
18688s | good that was the tournament where we |
18690s | were uh vibing in the crowd while we |
18692s | were commentating wasn't it good times |
18694s | good |
18699s | times feel like good times at the time |
18702s | but no probably was wish there was some |
18704s | way to |
18705s | know you're in the good times before |
18708s | they're |
18713s | over oh someone who's not having good |
18715s | times right now is hemlock facing down |
18717s | an absolute flurry of |
18721s | Elementals |
18733s | decided that Queen Asar is the best |
18735s | chance |
18737s | here it's a giga fin angle yeah now is |
18741s | this the most impactful |
18749s | colossa |
18751s | um |
18754s | doesn't look great and also really not a |
18757s | lot of time to make decisions at that |
18759s | point anyway not that it probably |
18761s | mattered and that means pocket is going |
18764s | to go up 1 Z against Hemlock so far H |
18768s | again another Victory chalk it up for |
18770s | mage there you go but I think really |
18772s | well controlled from both players um I |
18775s | think Hemlock got away with having those |
18777s | zerus nice and early to be able to just |
18779s | pile on a bit of board pressure but I I |
18781s | really do just think think it was pocket |
18784s | gaining board and having the inquisitive |
18787s | Creation in the hand that really sealed |
18789s | the deal because it was just okay |
18790s | Hemlock had to fight to get the board |
18792s | back and then pocket could just go okay |
18794s | there you go gone again and I think that |
18797s | really just put enough of a delay on |
18799s | hemlocks plans that pocket could then |
18800s | just do the Mage thing right and just |
18802s | get to those late game stages where you |
18804s | can suddenly start pulling H rabbit out |
18806s | of |
18808s | hats one rabbit out of multiple hats I |
18812s | mean you know if you're going to be a |
18814s | magician these days you've got to |
18815s | subvert the form to some extent right so |
18818s | and also that' be impressive imagine you |
18819s | line up 10 hats and one rabbit's just |
18821s | jumping through yeah yeah if you pulled |
18823s | the same rabbit out of multi like |
18825s | genuinely like yeah I'm down pen andella |
18827s | make it happen um yeah scramble at the |
18830s | end from hemlock for sure um I do I take |
18833s | your point I think both players really |
18834s | just used the early zerus minions as |
18837s | soon as they could right like as soon as |
18839s | they got a thing that did something I |
18840s | think Pockets ended up being a little |
18842s | more impactful because that uh Reverb on |
18844s | the Putra side and then rush into the |
18846s | putri side get a fully stacked potion on |
18849s | your own side was um a much bigger swing |
18852s | than Hemlock got from any of his uh |
18855s | zerus minions and I think was a large |
18857s | reason why things eventually snowboard |
18859s | in the way for pocket train but good |
18861s | good opening games two uh two solid |
18862s | players long way to go in this one |
18864s | pocket train staying hydrated it's nice |
18866s | to see of course could still be a long |
18868s | way to go in this one a long way to go |
18870s | in this tournament but he's looking he's |
18872s | looking energized he's looking he's |
18874s | looking youthful attentive he's been a |
18876s | very bitter and jaded man for many an |
18879s | occasion over the last few months but uh |
18881s | he's looking good so far yeah I also |
18882s | enjoy that we don't even have to |
18884s | remotely think oh you know what time is |
18886s | it for pocket you know how's he how's he |
18889s | getting on with the time zone like no |
18890s | not too much of a big deal for us mhm |
18894s | hey we going into game two pocket going |
18896s | to jump over to the shaman whereas |
18898s | Hemlock saying it's my turn to play Mage |
18900s | now and very light Al get a win if the |
18903s | weekend's anything to go by but pocket |
18907s | we'll need to pull something out the bag |
18908s | with this Shaman list but more than cap |
18910s | the same rabbit after it's come out of |
18912s | all the hats pull it out on the bag as |
18914s | well yeah and then in the end bunny |
18916s | Hopper just comes out of the bag and he |
18918s | like why didn't see that coming |
18922s | go and then bnny Hopper just wins the |
18925s | World Championships again despite not |
18927s | being |
18928s | entered it's just it's just the hay maze |
18931s | again isn't it |
18933s | Brock Lesnar at money in the |
18939s | bank we should have stuck to the office |
18942s | references yeah sorry all I know is ah |
18955s | wrestling again solid start for pocket |
18958s | train just having access to those |
18960s | piranhas give some flexible choices in |
18963s | the early game if Hemlock drops that |
18966s | keyboard no weapon on two for hemlock is |
18970s | great news if you are pocket train uh I |
18973s | think obviously this goes without saying |
18977s | weapon has a huge impact on uh most |
18979s | matchups keyboard that is on the Mage |
18981s | side um but I think against Sharman in |
18984s | particular they the difference between a |
18987s | game plan where the Mage pressures them |
18989s | early and a game plan where the Mage |
18990s | does not pressure them early is just |
18993s | phenomenally large and the way that Mage |
18995s | pressures early is almost exclusively |
18997s | with that keyboard so having missed that |
18999s | pocket train now has a lot of luxury to |
19001s | just be getting on with his game plan |
19003s | here yeah I'm just seeing some Deja Vu |
19006s | going on here as I swear those piranhas |
19007s | were dead a second ago um but yeah more |
19010s | piranhas back on board for pocket going |
19012s | to contest once again but this time |
19013s | Hemlock has a cold case did have to use |
19016s | that fire cell to be able to clear off |
19017s | the previous |
19019s | push and again I think this is the |
19022s | the respect the players have for this |
19025s | early game right is when pocket just |
19027s | drops three piranhas against Mage right |
19030s | early cuz that's it looks kind of weird |
19032s | maybe if you not played the match up |
19033s | much or not played the deck much but |
19035s | this forces Hemlock into awkward |
19037s | situations luckily for hemlock he's |
19039s | managed to respond reasonably well so |
19045s | far oh there it is at |
19050s | last |
19056s | yeah still just about in time I would |
19058s | say a little bit awkward because of the |
19060s | uh vague anti- Synergy with the chaos |
19062s | strike you'd want to play The Cosmic |
19065s | keyboard first just to get an extra two |
19067s | drop from the chaos strike but then to |
19069s | get the damage from the chaos strike |
19070s | little bit weird yeah I wonder if it's |
19072s | even just get the keyboard loaded and |
19077s | just go Arcane worm ping like is |
19080s | that |
19082s | is that crazy I don't |
19085s | know don't think it's |
19090s | crazy I think like having the two one on |
19092s | board utilizing the Ping saving you know |
19094s | saving the keyboard for maybe something |
19096s | a bit more |
19099s | impactful I was so I was wondering about |
19102s | this but I thought this would have a |
19104s | discovery of magic in the turn as well |
19106s | which apparently it does not oh okay so |
19108s | hok is actually still going to play the |
19110s | keyboard and probably use an arcane bolt |
19112s | to take one of these off the board and |
19113s | just getting an extra one drop like |
19115s | actual Max Tempo yeah okay I'm fine with |
19118s | that see I was thinking this wasn't a |
19120s | keyboard turn and you'd spend that uh |
19122s | one Mana that was just spent on the |
19124s | Arcane bolt on the discovery of magic |
19125s | instead and just try and look for |
19126s | something playable this turn um and then |
19129s | you can potentially still ping off the |
19131s | uh the 31 if you want to or you might |
19133s | find something uh more impactful from |
19135s | discovery of magic but yeah Hemlock just |
19136s | saying you know what I don't need |
19137s | massive value uh from these keyboard |
19140s | charges I just need stuff on board now I |
19142s | need pressure now I need to give pocket |
19144s | train some actual questions to answer so |
19146s | he can't just merily March his way |
19148s | drawing through his |
19153s | deck pocket meanwhile merrily marches on |
19156s | drawing through his own deck well H's |
19159s | going to try and keep up now with that |
19160s | CH strike getting played there's the |
19162s | creation as |
19164s | well so now I imagine you really want to |
19167s | play another spell this turn just so you |
19170s | can uh get that attack through without |
19172s | costing yourself the the |
19175s | durability I could even see this being |
19178s | oh okay oh yeah fair enough sure I was |
19182s | thinking of Maude yeah I was thinking of |
19184s | just like cycle the Viper discovery of |
19187s | magic and then infinitize and just do it |
19189s | that way but yeah whatever |
19200s | works |
19206s | but this is when games creep up on you |
19209s | because pocket looks like he's falling |
19211s | behind which on BD he is but with that |
19214s | card draw focus with some of discovers |
19216s | and you know with the right card drawn |
19218s | here and there Hemlock could be in a lot |
19220s | of trouble because it's that benefit |
19222s | isn't it of clash that not only does it |
19224s | often push tons of face damage but it's |
19227s | also clearing the board a lot of the |
19228s | time as well yeah oh it's going to get |
19231s | the command of nepon going to come out |
19233s | and help with this |
19235s | instead second flash is pretty good okay |
19238s | just going to drop the turn the tides |
19240s | sure Max |
19242s | Tempo I thought pocket might just go for |
19244s | a more Allin turn than that but I think |
19247s | just finding three Rush minions off the |
19249s | lightning reflexes he just decided this |
19250s | was good enough but uh pocket was really |
19252s | one of the first people I saw doing this |
19254s | with the original version of the well |
19256s | the original pocket version of the deck |
19258s | lots of people were playing various bad |
19260s | versions of the deck before that |
19262s | um he was kind of the first person I saw |
19264s | doing these kind of Mini popop turns |
19265s | where you'd actually all in your entire |
19267s | hand but because you just had thorm in |
19269s | your hand it didn't matter play the Thor |
19271s | in the next turn and then just redraw |
19273s | like a pretty full hand straight |
19275s | afterwards yeah I think there was a real |
19277s | temptation to just uh you know play The |
19279s | Flash that turn and go for that way |
19281s | right because you just think hm next |
19283s | turn could get very interesting yeah I |
19286s | think if you'd have found like cheaper |
19288s | nature spells like bolts and crashes you |
19290s | might have seen like the novice zapper |
19291s | novice zapper bolts and crashes turn and |
19294s | then just you know deal whatever 12 to |
19296s | 16 damage to your opponent with whatever |
19298s | you discover and overload for three or |
19300s | four and then just slam the thorum next |
19302s | turn right to to get all those cards |
19306s | back as it happened he discovered board |
19310s | cards so he played board |
19313s | cards sounds simple when you break it |
19318s | down I feel like creation should be like |
19321s | I don't know seven Mana at this point |
19324s | storm is in me it just always gets the |
19328s | job done |
19329s | in you call down the of |
19334s | Thunder there's thorm though going to |
19336s | start cycling a ton of cards here for |
19342s | pocket yeah this this is where things |
19344s | start to get spicy right when double |
19346s | crashes in hand lightning bolt there as |
19348s | well obviously the two zaps already on |
19350s | board um means that they're almost |
19353s | certainly not going to add to any of |
19355s | this potential pressure next turn but |
19356s | still it's a lot of power it is the |
19360s | issue pocket has though is just no no |
19363s | Jazz base and uh flash of lightning not |
19367s | really seeming like it's queued up in |
19368s | the near future right so it's hard to |
19371s | convert this hand into any kind of |
19373s | realistic lethal and if he doesn't start |
19375s | doing that in the next one to two turns |
19378s | you kind of have to be fearful of the |
19380s | Sith burst coming back from the other |
19381s | side |
19392s | M himl so far though just going to |
19395s | defend obviously get these spell damage |
19396s | minions off the board try and be as safe |
19398s | as possible but again another |
19402s | um slowish |
19408s | turn |
19410s | oh okay |
19411s | that is the drawer I think yeah I was |
19414s | going to say I'm trying to think of a |
19415s | better draw |
19435s | here is it deal heel I'm guessing has to |
19438s | be right yeah |
19442s | I think card draw is not something he |
19444s | overly needs right |
19446s | now get double trade minions deal heal |
19449s | and then actually just push the damage |
19450s | face to face so you clear up the three |
19453s | four I guess you clear the three four |
19454s | make the 5 S as annoying as possible is |
19456s | that a real thing though against the |
19458s | Reverb class probably not but I guess it |
19460s | is just responsible to to take the |
19469s | trade I think primarily in this match up |
19471s | like you might sit there thinking oh |
19473s | draw three is really good but then your |
19476s | opponent just reverbs you and uses the |
19478s | good ability against you because it's |
19479s | still remaining so even if it's not |
19482s | necessarily the best choice for you in |
19484s | the moment it's very often just correct |
19486s | to do it that way just to deny the Mage |
19488s | access to that ability off their |
19490s | inevitable Reverb yeah and I think |
19493s | really for me it's never a bad choice it |
19497s | feels like right you know okay well not |
19499s | never is a strong word but you know what |
19500s | I mean right it's never terrible to do |
19502s | it especially if your opponent got that |
19504s | board so y looking good overall reverb's |
19506s | going to come down though no true |
19508s | surprise I imagine pocket was uh |
19510s | expecting this |
19521s | mhm that is a cast that we've still not |
19523s | really done isn't |
19525s | it the uh full cast being uh just sound |
19528s | effects made by |
19530s | us |
19532s | well there was the one where they |
19534s | thought that the sound wasn't going out |
19536s | live and then they did sound effects the |
19537s | entire time and then it was going out |
19539s | live but that was an fgc cast |
19542s | so yeah we've done bits of games before |
19545s | but not actually like a whole |
19551s | game pocket with the flash now all the |
19555s | cards in the world in his hand and |
19558s | definitely setting up lightning bolt |
19560s | available over going to be the choice |
19561s | though to help clear out some of that |
19563s | space and some of that |
19567s | mana and this is terrifying isn't |
19570s | it look at the hand available for pocket |
19573s | and Hemlock needs to pull something out |
19575s | the back of I think that's what pocket |
19577s | just did then right just raised the hand |
19579s | saying well let's see yeah this is the |
19583s | turn that you like expect to die right |
19585s | where if they've drawn cth there's a |
19587s | good chance with 10 Mana cth kills you |
19590s | um it's not there pocket train however |
19592s | does have a different problem to deal |
19594s | with which is the solid Alibi which has |
19596s | now come off the rewind as well yeah and |
19598s | you saw I think pocket train knows okay |
19601s | they didn't have Sith cuz I didn't die |
19603s | so if they're just playing one solid |
19604s | Alibi I'm fine with that like we can |
19606s | wait one turn and then if they don't |
19608s | draw Sith the next turn I'm probably |
19610s | still winning the game when you see |
19611s | solid Alibi into |
19613s | rewind then you start to think maybe you |
19616s | might have some long-term issues this |
19618s | game yeah that's really tough isn't it |
19620s | because |
19621s | it's just that scary moment where you |
19623s | know the the raw impact of them just |
19625s | drawing the one card they need and even |
19628s | as you said like one turn even two turns |
19630s | feel scary now seeing the card draw on |
19633s | top of that it's not as if it's just |
19635s | saying oh well two aliis means they draw |
19638s | two cards to try and hit Sith right no |
19641s | because the Mage has tons of card draw |
19642s | access anyway yeah you just sort a |
19644s | wisdom come into the hand obviously uh |
19647s | volume up was cast which can't actually |
19648s | draw cth but it thins your deck out so C |
19651s | becomes a more likely draw to follow up |
19652s | and if you do if you then play you know |
19654s | if you play volume up and it puts a zero |
19656s | Mana draw two in your hand that's made |
19658s | it exceedingly more likely that you are |
19660s | going to find the |
19663s | Sith okay altered cord coming out for |
19665s | pocket it's going to |
19677s | help is this seven like H think it's |
19680s | like is this ever just neptulon to just |
19683s | play it and just |
19685s | threaten a little bit more damage even |
19687s | if it's to damage next to an extra I |
19690s | suspect so yeah the other option is uh |
19693s | zap just cuz zap actually gains you Mana |
19696s | right especially because you've actually |
19697s | just equipped a fresh Jazz base um so if |
19700s | you then play you know zero Mana for a |
19702s | zap that actually gains you one extra |
19704s | mana on the spell discount |
19706s | immediately um but I don't think it's |
19708s | required with this hand |
19709s | necessarily |
19713s | Buck it's just like has he got it this |
19720s | time it must be a really tough position |
19723s | obviously we are only in game two it's |
19725s | not as if the winner of this game is w |
19726s | and moves on to the finals yet and there |
19729s | is still plenty of time but it is |
19733s | a a rough position to be and you can see |
19736s | by pocket's reactions right the squint |
19737s | in he's almost can't even look because |
19740s | any single turn he may just be dead and |
19743s | with solid Alibi there's not a lot he |
19745s | can really do about |
19750s | it I love the slight delay it's like no |
19753s | no no no no no we can see he's already |
19755s | played alivi it's like finds the second |
19758s | one as well I'm not going to use the |
19760s | Viper actually just Cycles the Viper I |
19762s | was thinking he needs to kind of get |
19763s | another card out of his hand so he can |
19764s | play the second wisdom yeah wants to |
19767s | draw more but I guess he can still do |
19768s | that on the following turns there also |
19771s | whether he wants to forge now yeah there |
19773s | you go |
19786s | okay so at this point does pocket have |
19789s | access to anything that |
19792s | can increase his chances to have not |
19794s | dying to |
19796s | safe I don't think so right no I believe |
19799s | it's just to set up and go I believe |
19801s | both reflexes have been played which is |
19803s | where you find your altered chords from |
19805s | so the the life gains out yeah there's |
19808s | Flow Rider um there's one Flow Rider |
19811s | left in the deck I believe Flow Rider |
19812s | ins a overdraft and lightning bolt I |
19817s | think yeah sounds |
19820s | right wisdom both players pretty much in |
19824s | the bottom of the deck still no wait is |
19827s | there no more card draw nope so it's |
19830s | going to be what infinitize or but like |
19833s | at that point you're spending two mana |
19835s | on the infinitize you'd be spending more |
19836s | mana on the card draw like you you just |
19839s | still don't have it then |
19841s | right so |
19844s | defense solid Alibi |
19853s | again and Pockets reaction any second |
19858s | there we |
19859s | go |
19861s | oh |
19864s | no he's thrown his hands up in the air |
19867s | but in fact he does |
19879s | care yeah going to take the flash just |
19882s | for more heal quisitive creation going |
19885s | to clear the board not that it overly |
19887s | matters at this point I would say in the |
19889s | game |
19892s | yeah it does find one more card here |
19893s | from the flash of light as |
19900s | well I |
19902s | mean with the |
19905s | Viper it it it's so close I mean it just |
19909s | is right it's just it feels just like |
19912s | automatic game right because there's |
19915s | Alibi and a Viper |
19918s | trade with the natural draw and then the |
19921s | turn after even if it's bottom card |
19923s | there's Viper trade again yeah you see |
19926s | so you can see two nonv cards from your |
19928s | deck this turn right have a straight |
19930s | 50/50 of one of those being si uh you |
19933s | then play solid Alibi again this turn |
19935s | but you're still out of card draw so now |
19937s | you have the Viper in your decks and now |
19939s | next draw you're actually 66% of the |
19941s | time you don't draw CIF right because |
19943s | one of those cards is now the Viper but |
19945s | if you get the Viper you can trade the |
19947s | Viper back in if you spend one Mana |
19949s | trading the Viper though you can only |
19950s | cast cth and molten Rune so H there's |
19956s | there's there you're telling me there's |
19958s | a chance |
19965s | my which kind of makes Hellfire here |
19968s | pretty attractive right cuz you can just |
19970s | burn them down now to the point where |
19973s | just SI and the M are |
19977s | lethal as long as Alibi comes out it |
19980s | doesn't really matter what your health |
19981s | looks like does |
19983s | it oh wait didn't actually play the |
19986s | Hellfire didn't play the Hellfire no oh |
19989s | okay star power does a million but not |
19991s | to |
19998s | face problem now of course as well is |
20000s | that there's also just a board on the |
20002s | other side which uh pocket kind of has |
20004s | to deal with or else certainly be |
20009s | dead can it afford to |
20012s | crash I think you just have to I guess |
20014s | you can't afford not to precisely yeah |
20017s | but like I think there should still be |
20019s | enough right with the with the double |
20022s | lightning bolt crash in |
20024s | hand okay so there's the Viper so this |
20026s | is the exact situation I was talking |
20028s | about |
20031s | surely but can but there's also even if |
20035s | the Viper whiffs can't it just be nog on |
20037s | and plus one plus one yeah yeah oh |
20040s | please tell is this going to be keyboard |
20042s | lethal with the deadly |
20047s | poison you ever beaten a man to death |
20049s | with a keyboard before not a musical |
20059s | one |
20062s | oh is it still in the |
20067s | deck so yeah we're no Plus oneing |
20070s | salvation can pocket make it work cuz |
20074s | the thing with this as well is this |
20075s | means no Cold Case right so no armor |
20079s | gain |
20084s | yes ohal five oh deal five Reverb plus |
20089s | one to take the damage off the board |
20095s | sure which is plus two now of course yep |
20098s | yeah yeah no good point good point that |
20099s | could actually be a massive difference |
20101s | as well yeah that's just better right |
20104s | like simply as as a play leaving just a |
20107s | one one on board obviously the weapons |
20109s | there as well but the the difference |
20111s | between one and two feels the difference |
20113s | between doable and not doable yeah so |
20116s | would this have to be |
20118s | like oh no this is just oh God so it has |
20122s | to crash again |
20126s | right if it's not Le like pocket trade |
20129s | is being very careful here that this |
20131s | isn't lethal I don't think it is and if |
20136s | it's not then yes you just have to crash |
20138s | all of this away and just try and get |
20139s | there with the lightning bolts next |
20142s | turn so this is guaranteed safe if |
20145s | Hemlock wants |
20148s | it but at this point I don't even know |
20151s | what the that spell damage |
20156s | is it's actually crazy what |
20161s | so now you can you can trade the Viper |
20164s | and then you can get Sith and you can |
20165s | still cast Hellfire and Arcane |
20169s | bolt probably not in that |
20172s | order correct but that would still not |
20176s | be enough right I really feel like you |
20177s | were supposed to just rip this Hellfire |
20179s | at some |
20180s | point yes or even noon in five damage to |
20185s | minion right yeah so there's even yeah |
20192s | but I think if you're going to say noon |
20193s | five damage to face you have to be able |
20196s | to tell me how much damage pocket train |
20198s | can do from his hand with plus two on |
20201s | every card right because if you don't |
20202s | know the answer to that question you |
20204s | can't take that risk as to whether like |
20206s | that extra three damage you left up on |
20208s | board ends up killing you that way yeah |
20210s | true but I think like Hemlock could do |
20212s | that math right because of how limited |
20214s | the card pool is I don't know if he did |
20216s | or didn't but I think he could because I |
20218s | don't think there are any huge impact I |
20220s | guess there the one Flow Rider question |
20223s | mark |
20225s | right yeah Al fire how is this game |
20228s | still going I I don't |
20235s | know so that's the five |
20237s | armor I am surely this is enough |
20241s | right |
20243s | yes cuz there's |
20246s | double |
20248s | bio it both qu draft yeah yeah that has |
20251s | to that's it right yeah yeah again I I I |
20255s | know I shouldn't be questioning this |
20256s | like it's not but it's with the way this |
20259s | game's gone I'm shook I'm just I don't |
20261s | know how how it this like I neither does |
20263s | Pock it look he's like I don't even know |
20265s | how I won this game of hearthstone right |
20267s | now Hemlock with a Sith that just |
20270s | doesn't want to come out to play that is |
20273s | brutal that honestly huge win for pocket |
20277s | of course but I feel really bad for |
20279s | hemlock cuz that felt like one of the |
20281s | roughest games of hearthstone I've seen |
20283s | in a long time but it is one of those |
20286s | moments where there'll be a lot of |
20289s | opportunity to rewind that game and take |
20292s | a look at different moments like as you |
20293s | were talking about I think the biggest |
20295s | question was I think the nor Ganon turn |
20297s | was very good to get the plus two but |
20300s | could it have been a five to face |
20301s | reliably that's the question or was |
20304s | there a spot to get the Hellfire in and |
20306s | still say yes they can't kill me with |
20309s | whatever no one or not gun two whatever |
20311s | it ends up being so I think there were |
20313s | moments there for hemlock and and no |
20315s | doubt Hemlock will do this at some point |
20317s | is look back on that game and see if |
20318s | something could have changed but either |
20321s | way super unlucky to have cth just stick |
20324s | to the bottom of the deck yeah I think |
20327s | Hemlock played the version of the game |
20329s | that you win as long as cth isn't your |
20332s | last card and isn't found off any of the |
20334s | Viper trades throughout the course of |
20336s | the game perfectly the problem the |
20339s | question is can you also find a line |
20342s | that wins that game where it's the last |
20344s | card as well and I feel like the answer |
20346s | to that question is yes um and again |
20350s | like we came into this one I certainly |
20351s | came into this one um talking about how |
20354s | we could be seeing the highest level |
20356s | series of hearthstone that we see all |
20357s | weekend all year potentially as well |
20359s | with how good these two players have |
20361s | been so those are the standards that you |
20363s | have to hold people to uh so you really |
20367s | really intense game right the way down |
20369s | to the the finest razor wire in the end |
20372s | you can see the reaction from pocket |
20374s | train what four minutes ago four solid |
20378s | aliis yet to plow through in the end |
20380s | like absolutely absurd stuff and again |
20382s | this has been a consistent story of the |
20384s | tournament like sometimes just through |
20386s | pocket train being really good at the |
20388s | deck and sometimes just through a little |
20389s | bit of good fortune pocket train is |
20392s | getting Sharman through the series and |
20395s | other players are not and that right now |
20397s | is the big difference as to why he's now |
20400s | favored to make it to the final and a |
20402s | lot of other players who have brought |
20403s | Shan have been struggling a lot |
20405s | more yeah for sure and the play is not |
20408s | wasting any time that you okay |
20412s | Rick Rick wait what yeah flare |
20417s | oh yeah that's all I heard so I was like |
20421s | right I didn't know a change casting |
20423s | partner a uh not really an association I |
20426s | want these days Raven just to but the |
20429s | noise is the Noise Okay yeah yeah yeah |
20432s | okay yeah diving straight in Pocket |
20435s | could tidy this match with a quick well |
20438s | quick in air quotes three three 0 I feel |
20441s | that last game really uh took out of us |
20443s | all but could be moving on to the finals |
20445s | if you can just make it work with this |
20447s | Mech Rogue Hemlock though on the Mage |
20449s | just needs to hold off and hope uh this |
20452s | game goes a little bit better than the |
20453s | last one and we are landing a |
20458s | mimon |
20463s | beautiful stuff obviously even if this |
20465s | gets reverbed the board is clear so you |
20467s | still get to play a full turn of |
20468s | hearthstone with mimon in play and you |
20470s | will take that any day of the week and |
20472s | twice on Sunday Unfortunately today is |
20480s | Sunday but what else can you |
20485s | do he |
20488s | my |
20491s | yeah this is definitely a tricky one |
20492s | here as pocket starts to really develop |
20494s | on the |
20495s | board and he's uh planning to cause some |
20499s | Havoc prep spark Bots you've got wind |
20506s | Fury we've got all the reborn in the |
20509s | world y this whole game's going to |
20511s | reborn at this |
20516s | point look at the like the of things |
20520s | that are happening here for turn |
20523s | three going to give it reborn again oh |
20526s | that's okay I like that that's kind of |
20527s | cool I promise you I wouldn't have seen |
20530s | this play and I don't know why cuz it's |
20532s | really obvious now but I promise you I |
20534s | never would have done this I I would |
20536s | have just dealt the damage and just they |
20539s | been wind furied in the in the head like |
20540s | yesterday yeah but like this is so |
20542s | clearly |
20544s | better screw you pocket train why are |
20546s | you better at Hearthstone than |
20548s | me |
20556s | and this is this is the problem because |
20558s | at this stage in the game Mage just |
20560s | doesn't have the capability to do as |
20563s | much stuff as pocket train just did |
20566s | right yeah so here that's the problem |
20568s | for hemlock like he Hemlock can have a |
20570s | decent turn right has keyboard has a |
20572s | void uh scripture but that is not enough |
20575s | and that's the big problem here volcano |
20578s | mansy though is something to consider |
20580s | yeah that is definitely a card in this |
20584s | scenario but how would |
20586s | you like would it be like keyboard or |
20589s | the |
20591s | elemental oh wait no he's got the Mana |
20594s | for some reason I didn't think he had |
20595s | the Mana for it okay perfect yes by |
20597s | definition of the card he has the Mana |
20599s | left to play the card that just |
20601s | activated |
20606s | yes this why that rebor is just so |
20608s | clever right like trade off and just |
20610s | spend the last mana on on the reborn |
20612s | again and like now you just have gig |
20615s | Fury Mech coming down this turn right |
20617s | like it's just so |
20619s | smart oh reborn |
20627s | again really wants to keep rolling for |
20629s | Mana yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's the |
20631s | one you want you want the |
20633s | preps you can just keep on playing these |
20636s | mechs yeah and there's that way I think |
20639s | again with he's crossed the line where |
20642s | there's no point with uh or overly |
20645s | worrying about the um the stealth one |
20647s | because he has cloak field anyway but |
20649s | even if he didn't I think Seven health |
20651s | is fine right of just saying you could |
20653s | just push the damage |
20655s | anyway suddenly Hemlock is in a |
20658s | disastrous state right now with just 10 |
20661s | damage mimon Embers is a card it says |
20665s | Taun on |
20666s | it you're not wrong I believe that is |
20669s | what it |
20675s | says yeah just get just pay the |
20677s | artificer behind it for some |
20682s | armor and looks like I wish it cost |
20687s | two and you get a sap and you get a |
20692s | sap maximum damage coming through from |
20695s | mimon really really beautifully played |
20697s | like this seems straightforward this |
20698s | entire game seems trivial this game was |
20701s | losable you had to get turn four right |
20703s | and pocket train absolutely did get turn |
20705s | four right in a way that was basically |
20707s | unbeatable I think overall so in the end |
20711s | what I hyped up as potentially one of |
20712s | the closest Titus series ended up being |
20715s | the second freest 3-0 that we've seen |
20718s | all day since Man City at Old Trafford |
20720s | so sorry I guess we underd |
20722s | delivered yes and no because I will say |
20726s | that the the shaman versus Mage game uh |
20729s | where pocket just somehow beat that many |
20731s | aliis because of you know one pocket's |
20734s | you know good play of course but also |
20735s | just hemlocks like slight look factor or |
20738s | lack of it should I say when it comes to |
20740s | drawing safe I think that one game |
20743s | really sums up the uh the potential of |
20745s | these two players because it was so |
20747s | close so many times yes game three |
20750s | looked one-sided and it was but again |
20752s | echoing your thoughts I think uh pocket |
20755s | played it very well with those rebound |
20756s | trades getting the maximum value out of |
20758s | what he had ailable to him but yeah a |
20761s | series that doesn't look close |
20762s | score-wise but had some very very close |
20765s | moments and I think that's just you know |
20767s | a shout out to both Pocky and Hemlock at |
20769s | how good both of these players have been |
20771s | all year so it's a shame to see Hemlock |
20773s | lose but that's the nature of these top |
20775s | fours right someone has to lose someone |
20777s | has to go onto the finals and that is |
20779s | going to be pocket train we're doing it |
20782s | all over again Saul yeah making his |
20784s | second final of the year um and as |
20787s | mentioned like pocket is joint top of |
20790s | the overall standings which means um in |
20793s | these tournaments as each individual |
20795s | player gets eliminated they start |
20797s | rooting for pocket train particularly if |
20799s | they're European because you know if if |
20801s | pocket gets an actual automatic spot to |
20802s | Worlds through winning that opens up |
20804s | another point standings in the The Last |
20806s | Chance qualifications uh for all the |
20808s | players behind there's a few |
20810s | relationships like that going on in the |
20811s | tournament right now like wiu and banter |
20813s | face was a similar thing with the the |
20815s | head-to-head that they had with them |
20816s | both being fighting for America's spots |
20818s | so yeah pocket train second bite of the |
20821s | Cherry second final out of three |
20823s | available so far this year you know |
20825s | leader of the point |
20826s | standings he's he's he's a player let's |
20829s | let's just put it that way he knows what |
20831s | he is doing with a Hearthstone board in |
20833s | front of him well we have got two more |
20836s | matches left today we've got semi-final |
20838s | 2 and then of course the finals to |
20840s | decide our champion so make sure you |
20843s | don't go anywhere there's just a little |
20845s | bit more Hearthstone left for the day |
20846s | we're going to go to a break I'll be |
20847s | right back with semi-final number two |
20850s | too reborn again oh that's okay I like |
20853s | that that's kind of cool I promise you I |
20856s | wouldn't have seen this play and I don't |
20857s | know why cuz it's really obvious now but |
20860s | I promise you I never would have done |
20862s | this I I would have just done the damage |
20864s | and oh they' |
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20878s | been |
20880s | [Music] |
20890s | [Music] |
20895s | [Music] |
20966s | [Music] |
21075s | [Music] |
21083s | [Applause] |
21087s | hallelu |
21117s | oh |
21121s | [Music] |
21133s | [Music] |
21144s | hello everyone and welcome back to the |
21146s | Masters Tour we have semifinal number |
21148s | number two coming up to see who's going |
21150s | to face off against pocket train in the |
21153s | final I am still here but I'm now joined |
21155s | by the idol Vice welcome uh I know you |
21158s | were just watching that semi-final what |
21160s | did you think of it what do you think of |
21161s | the quick three from pocket I I mean I |
21163s | just about blinked and missed it you |
21165s | know after the the series The TJ and I |
21167s | cast I was ready to settle in you know |
21169s | watch another five game set nope Pockets |
21172s | just like get in get out get on with it |
21175s | yeah it was it was really incredible and |
21177s | I'm really looking forward to to cuz I |
21179s | will not be casting the finals I get to |
21181s | just put my feet up and enjoy as a |
21183s | spectator but for now we like I said we |
21185s | have to decide who is going to be facing |
21187s | pocket in that finals it's going to be |
21189s | mcbf face versus balance H so going to |
21192s | be a really spicy one again so much on |
21194s | the line so much work all year gone into |
21197s | this for these players to get to this |
21199s | like sort of one two matches away from |
21202s | just a world championship direct invite |
21204s | which is got to be the dream right to |
21206s | just say we don't have to worry about |
21208s | points any more all that goes out the |
21209s | window I'm just going that's what these |
21212s | players really want yeah absolutely I |
21214s | think for every single one of them just |
21217s | would be a huge relief if could just |
21220s | focus on practicing for worlds generally |
21223s | rather than trying to grind out for the |
21225s | points to get there yeah M bface had a |
21229s | really uh spicy matchup against wiq with |
21232s | some very surprised moments earlier on |
21235s | uh because again we've seen this |
21236s | throughout the day because this sort of |
21240s | natural he myself there we go because we |
21244s | can uh we've been seeing a lot of Mage |
21246s | and Shaman both decks have the burst |
21248s | potential that you see a lot of these |
21250s | players going ah I can't kill them I'm |
21252s | probably dead and then they don't die |
21254s | and then it's going to be you know okay |
21255s | suddenly what's the recovery looking |
21256s | like and at least there some really |
21258s | really out there uh matchup so we are |
21261s | going to check in uh with MCB faces Mage |
21264s | probably you know we're not going to |
21265s | talk about Warrior yet but um mage proba |
21268s | probably the the star of the show this |
21271s | weekend absolutely yeah Mage has been |
21273s | sort of that number two deck both in |
21275s | terms of players who brought it and in |
21278s | terms of performance for a lot of folks |
21280s | uh Rogue another strong performer but |
21282s | Mage is really just this one deck |
21284s | whereas you know Warrior and Rogue are |
21287s | kind of split between you know en rage |
21288s | and Odin or Mech and secret Mage is is |
21293s | just rainbow Mage except for CJ Kaka on |
21295s | the Naga Mage the one player and yeah |
21299s | it's been you know it's been holding |
21302s | up yeah I'm just looking at the bands |
21304s | for this match and um I I think it we we |
21308s | were told it was double Warrior sorry |
21310s | there were no Warrior bands but I |
21311s | actually think there might be a warrior |
21313s | band so we'll see that soon we we'll see |
21315s | the outcome of that in the near future |
21317s | but on the other side of course been |
21318s | talking a lot about mukban face but |
21320s | balance has been the one uh wielding the |
21323s | dreaded control priest um the the deck |
21326s | archetype that haunts my nightmare after |
21329s | uh after certain you know grandm stints |
21332s | in the European region that seemed |
21334s | endless at times with a lot of control |
21337s | Warrior mirrors but we will not get the |
21338s | mirrors in this I do believe there's |
21340s | Shaman Bann out uh from mukban face and |
21343s | the enrage Warrior from balance has been |
21346s | banned out as far as I'm as far as I |
21348s | believe so we won't be seeing the enrage |
21350s | Warrior but if bace is going to win |
21352s | we're going to see some of that Odin |
21354s | Warrior yeah and I think that may be a |
21357s | nod to Co thinking that you know on this |
21360s | priest if it does end up having to face |
21362s | the Odin Warrior there are a limited |
21364s | number of minions in that deck so |
21366s | there's an opportunity to just go for |
21369s | multiple copies of dirty rat and and |
21371s | going into that M turn eight or whenever |
21373s | feels the opportune time just being able |
21375s | to snipe it out of the opponent's hand |
21377s | and at that point you've got plenty of |
21379s | ways to just run the warrior out of |
21382s | stuff yeah it's very interesting isn't |
21384s | it because like the Odin Warrior has a |
21386s | lot of control control aspects of you |
21389s | know older control Warrior archetypes |
21392s | but it really does just have that now I |
21395s | kill you sort of button which is Odin |
21397s | right you play that and suddenly control |
21400s | goes out the window it's face face face |
21402s | H damage so it'll be very interesting to |
21404s | see if there's any way to recover if |
21406s | that matchup happens and if those dirty |
21408s | rats can start causing some Shenanigans |
21410s | so it's going to be a cool matchup cuz |
21412s | I've not cast Warrior at all all weekend |
21414s | so at least you know I get to cast maybe |
21417s | some form of warrior uh before I go uh |
21420s | but going to be pretty interesting with |
21421s | this lineup overall because one thing |
21423s | that surprised me was balance is |
21425s | bringing rainbow Mage makes sense it's |
21428s | extremely powerful as we've seen a rogue |
21431s | secret Rogue at this point but still the |
21433s | Rogues have been doing well overall in |
21435s | Rage Warrior it's one of the two |
21436s | extremely good warrior decks but then |
21439s | the control priest right it's like it's |
21441s | not like there was some out there lineup |
21443s | that you know control priest really |
21445s | benefited from so what do you actually |
21447s | make of just it looks like a I don't |
21450s | mean this as it sounds but it looks like |
21451s | a real lineup and then you just stuck |
21453s | control priest on the end for balance |
21455s | like do you like this uh otherwise I |
21458s | mean I think it's got to be some kind of |
21461s | comfort pick or something in my mind |
21462s | because there doesn't seem to be a |
21465s | particular strategy built around the |
21468s | control priest you know it's not like |
21469s | you're assembling a control lineup or |
21472s | anything uh certainly with the enrage |
21474s | Warrior over the uh over the Odin |
21479s | Warrior so it yeah it is a bit of an |
21483s | unusual pick here in Balance but it's |
21485s | also it's built in a slightly unusual |
21487s | fashion it's |
21489s | very targeted in terms of you know all |
21492s | these tech cards and things and there's |
21495s | no extra value no Etc no salna so really |
21499s | not built for the mirror I think balance |
21501s | was relieved not to have to play out |
21504s | that mirror because as were we |
21507s | all |
21509s | in terms of you know just competition |
21511s | terms uh it would have had a slight |
21513s | disadvantage in terms of value going |
21515s | into Co CO's version well here we go |
21518s | game one already underway again if you |
21521s | were just joining us the winner of this |
21522s | goes on to face pocket train in the |
21524s | finals with a world championship spot on |
21528s | the line Bank face going to be on the |
21530s | Mage and we're going to see this priest |
21532s | nice and early and how do you feel this |
21535s | priest does versus the Mage um is it you |
21538s | talked about dirty rat and it has the |
21540s | you know the potential to actually pull |
21541s | SI and maybe kill it as well which is |
21543s | obviously a big deal but do you think |
21545s | balance has to go to that level of |
21547s | extreme to win this matchup or do you |
21549s | think he can do it let's say fair and |
21551s | square I mean it's very hard as the |
21554s | priest with your limited number of tempo |
21556s | tools to actually just try and you know |
21559s | win out that way it's not really the |
21561s | game that a control priest is playing so |
21565s | in a sense you you sort of have to just |
21567s | deal with every threat that the Mage has |
21570s | to offer and that is very challenging |
21574s | against this particular Mage which is so |
21576s | filled with value I mean we see |
21577s | infinitize maxud as just infinite value |
21580s | potentially literally infinite depending |
21583s | depend on how you play it out |
21585s | yeah Ignus is a way that you can uh get |
21588s | there with pressure |
21590s | though yeah as usual and as has often |
21593s | been the case with a lot of controlled |
21595s | priests in the past as well is |
21598s | there's not not a lot of standard ways |
21601s | to win certain matchups but there's a |
21603s | lot of weird ways to win certain |
21605s | matchups even if you look at cards such |
21607s | as uh identity theft as well right and |
21610s | things like that can can sort of create |
21612s | odd conditions for you to actually steal |
21614s | winds so and again I think you're |
21617s | exactly right where this must be some |
21620s | level of comfort pick for balance and if |
21622s | you're that comfortable with a deck that |
21624s | has to create weird Wing conditions a |
21625s | lot of the time you're going to be used |
21627s | to it so I think that's definitely going |
21628s | to go in his favor for this one but mban |
21631s | just playing like the raw good deck |
21634s | gives me a lot of confidence in him for |
21635s | this |
21637s | guy yeah and although no keyboard in |
21641s | hand for banter being able to go coin |
21642s | Cold Case into second Cold Case is |
21644s | always just a lot of pressure you know |
21646s | you force out that Shard of Naru because |
21647s | priests don't want to have to deal with |
21649s | all that extra chip damage from killing |
21651s | the skeletons and balances in position |
21654s | where you know he can go for a big draw |
21655s | turn here but uh not necessarily the |
21660s | cleanest clears |
21665s | besides it's always a question of when |
21667s | you do actually go for the dirty rat in |
21669s | this matchup is probably the toughest |
21671s | thing cuz there's a lot of Minions that |
21673s | you don't really want to |
21675s | hit yeah it's definitely tricky isn't it |
21678s | because there's not even the the other |
21681s | than just letting the game go on and |
21684s | knowing that your opponent say has had |
21686s | five cards in hand for the last five |
21689s | turns let's say there's no signifier |
21692s | right there's no often not a setup turn |
21694s | that makes it obvious that they're about |
21696s | to do something so it it could be really |
21699s | really difficult uh to to try and time |
21701s | this against at least against cth |
21705s | specifically yeah |
21706s | definitely and you have to kill it in |
21708s | the same turn or silence it because Sil |
21712s | otherwise it is immediate death |
21714s | otherwise you've just done them a favor |
21716s | yeah I think like one of the tough ones |
21719s | because I would say versus The Warrior |
21721s | you would just play Rat before turn |
21724s | eight right and just not let them drop |
21726s | it on curve potentially and that's |
21728s | that's just straightforward because they |
21730s | want to play it ASAP whereas that is |
21732s | obviously not the case with s so yeah |
21734s | very very tricky |
21738s | overall yeah the warrior both has fewer |
21741s | misses in terms of there's fewer minions |
21743s | overall you know they've built a deck |
21745s | around chorus riff and a limited number |
21747s | of minions so that chus Rift has higher |
21749s | odds of drawing Odin or if you miss on |
21751s | Odin draws Finley and then you flip your |
21753s | deck upside down to to pick up that Odin |
21757s | and uh you know it is better the earlier |
21760s | you play it with Odin C is not that way |
21763s | C A lot of times is better the later you |
21765s | play it uh in some seex you know apart |
21767s | from winning the game earlier you do |
21769s | need to power it up and that can take |
21771s | time so in this matchup a lot of times |
21773s | as the Mage you're kind of happy if you |
21775s | don't pick up C until the turn you're |
21778s | going to play it for the win yeah and |
21780s | then that goes to an extreme and you're |
21781s | called Hemlock and you never pick up |
21784s | safe even though there's only one card |
21785s | left in your deck H which is what we saw |
21787s | a little bit |
21788s | earlier although very likely against a |
21791s | priest that would be a perfectly fine |
21793s | situation yes yes true |
21798s | true and this is one of those weird |
21800s | spots for balance where and and again |
21803s | this has often been the case for priests |
21805s | where it's just like there's not really |
21807s | a lot to do you've got nearly you got |
21809s | plenty of cards in hand but because so |
21811s | many of them are like semi situational |
21813s | it's just like huh I guess do I just |
21816s | pass even you can see him hovering the |
21818s | dirty rat and yeah he's going to go for |
21821s | one probably hits a creation yeah again |
21823s | you'd be reasonably happy with this |
21824s | outcome right creation definitely one of |
21827s | the more annoying cards to try and deal |
21829s | with yeah it's just such a powerful |
21832s | board swing you know only having to |
21834s | spend four mana on the clear and and |
21836s | then being able to devel up whatever you |
21838s | want on the other side and having a |
21840s | three four as well I think especially |
21842s | with yeah picking up the ignis off the |
21845s | creation instead of more dirty rats it's |
21848s | just kind of more reliable in terms of |
21851s | making things awkward for the |
21858s | Mage Banner face now does have a pretty |
21862s | reasonable amount of Health to sort of |
21863s | Chunk through here with this 47 dirty |
21866s | rat right and normally when you see a |
21868s | dirty rat come down you're like nah |
21869s | whatever you know it doesn't do much you |
21871s | know once it's had its ability done of |
21872s | course but this is a significant minion |
21874s | that Panet face is going to have to push |
21876s | through |
21878s | it I think one of the reasons it's you |
21881s | know almost an auto include in so many |
21882s | lists is it it it pairs very well with |
21885s | the location so sometimes you know when |
21887s | you do just play it out early for either |
21889s | hand space or you know you're up against |
21891s | something where there's not really bad |
21893s | hits and you just want a big taunt uh |
21895s | getting that plus two power plus one |
21898s | toughness uh really makes things |
21901s | challenging for your opponent to trade |
21910s | into rewind never a bad pick to look at |
21914s | Gifts of aaras fine but I do think |
21916s | overall rewind is going to be more |
21917s | tempting here for |
21919s | B yeah the card draw is a bit Limited at |
21923s | present so you're maybe even looking for |
21924s | wisdom of |
21926s | norgan H |
21930s | or Another Cold Case you know those |
21932s | always feel pretty |
21934s | solid that's a pretty good pick up for |
21936s | balance |
21943s | though what Mana weapon would you take |
21945s | here five it's always 10 always 10 no |
21949s | matter what it's always 10 I I |
21953s | remember I this might have been in the |
21956s | theory casting that we did |
21958s | uh well that is 10 when we were talking |
21961s | about ignis I me and Saul I remember |
21963s | saying yeah look at the 10 weapons it's |
21965s | always 10 so I was like no no anything |
21967s | that's made a weapon it's always the you |
21969s | know anything that discovers like a a |
21971s | builder Builder card is always ended up |
21974s | being the cheapest is the best I was |
21976s | like no no it's always going to be 10 |
21977s | and for once in my life it kind of |
21979s | worked that it was in fact always 10 |
21982s | especially pre |
21984s | Nerf and I think especially in in Priest |
21987s | you know where where you do often have |
21989s | the resources to to get to that 10 mana |
21992s | and I mean look we've picked up a wind |
21995s | Fury armor weapon I think so you know |
21998s | fantastic combination both just for |
22001s | damage and uh getting 16 armor every |
22004s | turn that that's in play is just massive |
22008s | in terms of putting this wall between |
22011s | yourself and and the CIF lethal uh it's |
22015s | not know that's one of the ways where |
22016s | you don't need something like a dirty |
22018s | rat on is where you just gain so much |
22021s | armor that it's it's impossible for the |
22024s | Mage to get there without being able to |
22026s | s a |
22034s | board yeah it's kind of interesting as |
22036s | well like obviously Mage draws a very |
22038s | increased uh rate but even with balance |
22041s | drawing plenty of cards themselves |
22043s | there's still nowhere in there worrying |
22045s | about fatigue right so what four cards |
22048s | behind face at this point so you know |
22051s | all the card draw as well is just going |
22053s | to help give them some more options as |
22055s | they check out this |
22059s | discover surely you want dirty R right |
22062s | at the top yeah I mean with already one |
22065s | ignis in reserve and a powerful 10 Mana |
22067s | weapon available weirdly enough I feel |
22070s | like there is such a thing has too much |
22073s | value doesn't happen often but it does |
22076s | happen there's safe yep |
22081s | okay four minions in hand so pretty good |
22085s | odds if balance just just decide to go |
22087s | for a dirty rat play next turn alongside |
22091s | I don't know if you would play Behemoth |
22092s | just because you don't need the healing |
22095s | but yeah I mean I think stage one is |
22098s | play the dirty rat and see what happens |
22099s | right like that's uh cuz as you said |
22102s | it'll be Shadow word or Shadow the |
22103s | narrow to silence the Sur if it hits uh |
22106s | one way or the other but if not yeah I |
22109s | think just F out the turns probably |
22113s | good cuz I do think the behemoth at this |
22117s | kind of stage is more a big minion than |
22120s | would you really save it for heal right |
22123s | you play more is just a big threat as |
22125s | opposed to saying oh well they'll get me |
22127s | a bit low and then I'll just heal it's |
22128s | like well a bit low might just be dead |
22130s | against Mage |
22133s | so K strike being the choice there from |
22136s | P the face I just adding to the |
22138s | potential overall damage output oh and |
22141s | going for a very early reduction now |
22143s | having already gotten the Sith in hand |
22146s | so yeah I mean when I talked earlier |
22149s | about are there any signals for |
22151s | C that's probably one of them if you're |
22154s | going to get one right you see the |
22156s | damage uh sorry the cost reduction come |
22158s | out I think if there's ever a time to |
22160s | snap dirty right it's probably now well |
22162s | that may be why banter went for the fire |
22166s | spell there you know both because uh it |
22171s | maybe signals oh I'm I'm not quite ready |
22173s | right I'm having to spend a fire spell |
22175s | and also because if the rat is played |
22178s | there's you know a one twoo in hand that |
22179s | you don't mind just getting R play yeah |
22183s | I think this is really good because you |
22185s | can always say oh it could have saved it |
22187s | for more damage it's like well it won't |
22188s | be any damage if Sith gets pulled right |
22190s | so yeah I'm completely with you I think |
22192s | adding an extra minion to the hand |
22194s | because if you look at the the burst |
22196s | potential anyway it's pretty high as it |
22200s | is yeah absolutely and I I like this |
22203s | from balance going in on the uh identity |
22207s | theft first just to take a peek take a |
22209s | peek at the hand you know if you see |
22211s | that there's a safe there certainly you |
22213s | go in on the dirty rat right |
22216s | now just a quick lean to see your |
22218s | opponent's hand see what's going on or |
22219s | at these bits of it yeah he's going to |
22221s | go with a behemoth |
22223s | instead does remove the uh you know it's |
22226s | not healing but it does remove an amount |
22228s | of damage right like preemptively almost |
22230s | by killing this off |
22232s | y that's just another thing that has to |
22235s | be dealt with I think balance wants to |
22237s | feel safe going |
22239s | into this turn 10 like thinking okay I'm |
22243s | a very unlikely dead from 35 if my |
22245s | opponent just played one of their zero |
22248s | mana burn spells and I want them to have |
22251s | to deal with this board so that I can |
22253s | play my runic hammer and and just start |
22257s | 16 armor every single turn and this is |
22260s | getting pretty close this is going to be |
22261s | Arcane ball |
22269s | yeah so what's that is there three |
22272s | Arcane bolts in the hand I think yeah |
22275s | yep two of which cost zero so |
22278s | yeah Ho Holy |
22281s | SP the second one is free I |
22286s | suppose |
22289s | there is the elemental um not Elemental |
22292s | inspiration inquisitive creation there |
22295s | too many of these similarish words come |
22297s | on and for those wondering why banter |
22300s | might have taken Garden Grace there I |
22302s | think it was it was just a matter of |
22303s | discovery of magic if you only have one |
22305s | spell school left that you haven't |
22307s | played you don't have a choice yeah it |
22310s | kind of is what it is like you can't |
22312s | really uh be fussy when there's only one |
22315s | option wow suddenly like this is this |
22320s | dirty rat or dead at this point I think |
22323s | I |
22324s | mean it's tough call cuz at 35 Plus the |
22328s | 16 you know it sounds pretty |
22332s | healthy but that's a lot of damage with |
22335s | the Reverb right |
22336s | [Music] |
22338s | yeah it's just the fact that you know |
22342s | there's a reduction on at least you |
22345s | would guess at least a couple of cards |
22347s | right cuz the reduction came down and it |
22350s | um |
22351s | it it wouldn't have it wouldn't have |
22353s | happened right if there was hitting like |
22355s | one spell right like banet face would |
22357s | not have have reduced one spell though |
22359s | so see what the outcome is here for |
22361s | balance there's a forged Rune as well so |
22364s | even if you don't know about you know |
22366s | the reduced |
22367s | Reverb there is the factor of you saw |
22370s | the forge yeah you saw the forge so if |
22373s | you're playing around molten Rune and |
22375s | you know a couple of Arcane bolts you |
22378s | know there's an extra one from the void |
22380s | scripture |
22383s | right so sorry yeah I just look at B |
22386s | Face's response to the AR was like |
22391s | no it might still be enough with the |
22395s | Reverb I'm trying to think you can't |
22396s | play both Reverb and the molten Rune |
22399s | yeah I feel like if it was enough |
22401s | balance would already be dead so I'm |
22404s | assuming that it is not enough he's |
22407s | counting it out it might be just shy I |
22410s | don't know from that that expression |
22412s | this is how I work out lethals um when |
22416s | casting if the player hasn't locked it |
22418s | in when it's just like this spell damage |
22420s | Minion plus burst then it's not lethal |
22423s | that's that's the the the way I approach |
22425s | these things a lot of the time mainly |
22427s | the issue we've got is I can't quite see |
22428s | what um Si's at yeah I mean I think it's |
22431s | everything but holy but I I don't recall |
22434s | the max number you can have |
22437s | the problem is that if he waits a turn |
22440s | there's there's just more armor yeah |
22442s | seven so you Reverb because it's always |
22444s | dead |
22447s | anyway so that's plus 14 spell damage |
22450s | means each these 17 why does my bace |
22453s | look like surprised this outcome yeah |
22455s | it's exact lethal didn't as bface let my |
22458s | strategy down oh no yeah I think he yeah |
22461s | I think this I think this reaction and |
22463s | the fact he's going to get up and just |
22465s | have a moment here really sums this up |
22468s | because I respect mcbf a lot as a player |
22471s | and I would have assumed that even after |
22474s | the armor swing that mcbf face would |
22477s | have just known how much damage he could |
22479s | do right just straight off the bat |
22481s | before the turn even happened from |
22483s | balance he would have said at this |
22485s | moment with this hand I have X amount of |
22486s | damage uh so I was really surprised and |
22489s | that's why I was saying if he's not |
22490s | locked it in I just assume it's not |
22491s | lethal because surely would have counted |
22493s | but I think that it's that moment where |
22496s | there's some much pressure and you know |
22499s | even with players that are seasoned as |
22501s | MCB face there's got to be that thought |
22503s | in your head that goes I need to count |
22506s | this again and I need to count it again |
22508s | and then count it again because you |
22510s | think if I mess this up and lose this |
22513s | game that could be the difference |
22515s | between a world championship spot and |
22516s | not so yeah I think at that moment he |
22519s | was kind of half surprised that it was |
22521s | just lethal but still congratulations |
22523s | what a what a weird ending to that game |
22526s | to be completely honest you know had it |
22528s | had it been me playing there I almost |
22530s | would have just gone in because I know |
22532s | if that weapon gets to attack again |
22533s | there's there's no way you're overcoming |
22535s | you know an additional 32 armor over the |
22537s | next two turns so uh yeah just going for |
22541s | it at the end whether he he double |
22543s | checked his his work and and realized or |
22546s | or just knew that he had to go in uh |
22548s | yeah exact |
22549s | lethal yeah really really big win there |
22552s | from atand theace cuz that started to |
22554s | slip away as you mentioned right with |
22556s | the um uh with the ignis weapon suddenly |
22559s | that's a way that priest can even |
22561s | without dirty rat actually stabilize and |
22564s | feel some level of safety but yeah |
22566s | mukbanf face got through there so |
22568s | there's a loss for the priest for |
22569s | balance mcface getting the Mage over the |
22572s | line H but there's still plenty more to |
22575s | to go where that came from because |
22577s | there's like I've been saying all |
22579s | weekend I feel like any player who gets |
22581s | to play Mage in a match should win right |
22585s | at some point like mage shouldn't be the |
22587s | deck that causes them trouble uh so yeah |
22590s | we'll have to see how the rest of this |
22591s | match up goes but what a close start to |
22594s | this |
22596s | series yeah absolutely and you know |
22599s | priest is a deck that you're always |
22602s | giving your opponent time and so uh Mage |
22607s | usually just has more options the longer |
22609s | the game goes I think it's it's really |
22611s | just that big weapon that can sometimes |
22614s | shut the door but turn 10 is very very |
22618s | long time to give them age as very |
22621s | frequently it's it's on 10 Mana where |
22623s | they do kill you yeah I feel like that |
22626s | matchup is just all about timing right |
22628s | because you can see oh well what if a |
22630s | dirty rat came down earlier you know to |
22633s | try and get the SA or what if maybe |
22636s | there was one turn delayed from at ban |
22638s | face so suddenly the weapon could swing |
22640s | again then we play a completely |
22642s | different game of hearthstone and things |
22644s | look very very different overall so I I |
22646s | think there is or or that was clearly |
22648s | just that sweet spot of it's just in |
22651s | time to push that damage cuz any later |
22653s | and it would have been game over I think |
22655s | from at bface but also any earlier like |
22658s | before the weapon gets to swing there |
22660s | was a chance that at bface could kill |
22661s | them then right so those like just |
22664s | really really clear timings are very |
22666s | very difficult to sort of guess at when |
22668s | you're in that position but without |
22670s | further Ado we're get into game number |
22671s | two banter face jumping onto the Warrior |
22674s | One of the uh the rarest classes |
22677s | seen out in the wild this weekend going |
22679s | up against this priest once again I've |
22681s | got a funny feeling ID Vice that bounce |
22683s | is going to stick on priest till he wins |
22685s | with it or goes home I mean I can |
22688s | respect that right it's it's sort of the |
22690s | deck that you just like all right this |
22693s | one I I need to get a win with it is it |
22695s | was the one you know potential awkward |
22697s | or weak link |
22699s | and you know again I feel like it must |
22702s | be a comfort pick if you brought it so |
22705s | yeah |
22707s | so in this |
22710s | matchup if the Odin doesn't |
22714s | happen would you say it's very likely to |
22717s | just be game to balance is that is that |
22719s | as as if we were going to oversimplify |
22721s | the |
22722s | matchup would you agree I think I would |
22725s | agree because you know there's two ways |
22728s | there's there's a late Odin and there's |
22729s | a dirty ratted Odin and uh certainly |
22734s | the dirty ratted Odin is is just very |
22737s | unlikely you're going to get there it |
22738s | kind of comes down to ignis weapon at |
22740s | that point I mean in in sort of both |
22742s | situations it comes down to ignis weapon |
22743s | I think you're you're looking for that |
22745s | wind Fury at least in the case of a late |
22747s | Odin sometimes you can set up situations |
22750s | where you get that wind Fury weapon and |
22753s | you just sort of save it until you |
22755s | finally throw down Odin and you get to |
22759s | just multiply your armor cards in |
22762s | particular the the tradable ones that |
22764s | you've maybe been holding on to this |
22765s | whole time and |
22766s | furiously trading to look for that Odin |
22769s | but if it gets dirty rat it's it's tough |
22771s | times for The Warrior yeah well let's |
22774s | see how it goes here is B uh starts to |
22777s | try and get going here with the priest |
22779s | of course just going to go Forge that |
22781s | creation |
22784s | protocol and just start this the slow |
22786s | buildup right uh just build up all the |
22789s | resources again I think we saw in the |
22791s | previous game right where there was what |
22792s | three or I think there was only three |
22794s | locations on board at the same time for |
22796s | balance right just you know build that |
22798s | sort of preload that value uh in there |
22801s | is love everlasting as well available in |
22803s | hand looks like it's going to get |
22804s | dropped down on curve but yeah just |
22806s | getting everything set up but again a |
22810s | lot of the game will revolve around how |
22813s | this Odin makes an |
22816s | appearance yeah and once again I think |
22818s | the best time to draw Odin in this |
22821s | matchup is on turn eight as soon as you |
22825s | are on eight Mana if it comes into the |
22827s | hand then because there's there's no way |
22829s | for the priest to sort of steal it away |
22831s | from you |
22834s | thename |
22841s | never and we're not seeing the discovers |
22844s | here but I imagine as the priest we're |
22846s | going for a |
22852s | five well this is another matchup where |
22854s | you can go for a 10 |
22856s | assuming the Odin doesn't come down |
22858s | terribly early and out armor what the |
22860s | warrior is able |
22861s | to present in terms of |
22877s | damage having a a little bit of |
22880s | technical difficulties in terms of not |
22882s | seeing the discovers and LU we'll find |
22885s | out quickly and and we we have a rough |
22888s | guess as to what balance we'll want |
22890s | right generally speaking oh actually |
22892s | went for five so went for an on curve |
22894s | play okay it's I guess it's not always |
22896s | 10 I'm slightly upset I mean there's not |
22899s | a lot of fives in the deck I I feel like |
22901s | it was frequently five or 10 with the |
22904s | caveat that if there's something that |
22906s | needs to be addressed immediately you |
22908s | take a one right if you're in a very |
22910s | aggressive match up like frequently |
22911s | against Mech Rogue you do ones looking |
22913s | for poisonous deal damage |
22922s | I would say the premium five in the |
22924s | circumstance would be wind Fury and |
22926s | summon a four |
22928s | drop yeah I would say so just pressure |
22931s | pressure pressure right you're trying to |
22932s | get a hold of that |
22933s | board do you have this in a |
22940s | bigger there is Banter ignis which is |
22943s | another thing that you don't terribly |
22945s | want to get dirty ratted |
22947s | Yeah It's Tricky though cuz like you |
22949s | said that it's not like there are |
22952s | hundreds of minions in the deck right |
22954s | from it Banner face to try and clog the |
22956s | hand on purpose to try and Dodge it |
22958s | because he does need to be uh proactive |
22960s | himself I see second ignis come down now |
22964s | so again we'll discover the Discover |
22967s | when we see it we do have some uh |
22970s | discover I think it's just the spectator |
22972s | discover bug that happens sometimes does |
22974s | go for a 10 the second time round which |
22976s | makes |
22977s | sense yeah absolutely and I'm banter |
22981s | face here you know this isn't really |
22983s | pressure you're not terribly worried |
22984s | about pressure from the priest but you |
22986s | do maybe want to just go ahead and Forge |
22988s | and play your own ignis try and look for |
22991s | that wind Fury |
22996s | weapon and in the case of the warrior |
22998s | you're happy to take ones because all |
23000s | you really care about most of the time |
23002s | is having that wind Fury tag these |
23005s | priests do 10 run so you can't really |
23008s | your weapon picking a |
23016s | 10 decisions decisions from bner face |
23020s | here really tricky CU there are just a |
23023s | lot of options even with this Finley |
23025s | right it's like oh do I leave the Finley |
23028s | in hand to try and cause shenanigans |
23031s | that way um do you want to play Finley |
23034s | to just cycle through or reverse cycle |
23036s | the deck kind of tricky but they just go |
23038s | for the board presence instead is going |
23040s | to say you know what forget about Odin |
23042s | for now I'm going to go for plan a which |
23045s | is just beat my opponent |
23047s | up yeah and there are you know a few of |
23049s | these board building cards available so |
23052s | the warrior the primary one |
23054s | being uh this this riff the bridge riff |
23057s | although banter did foro a minion draw |
23060s | there by by taking this route since the |
23063s | bridge Rift was not finaled uh to get |
23066s | the the double meant losing out on |
23069s | replaying aorus riff we do get to see |
23071s | this five Mana weapon uh which is the |
23074s | deal for and life steal just keep |
23076s | balance topped off in the mid game |
23085s | here when does this prison of yog come |
23088s | into play my question when are we going |
23090s | to start seeing |
23091s | fireworks you know this used to be I |
23093s | think just a regular yog pre pre- |
23096s | balance patch but uh right has since |
23098s | been swapped back for the prison is just |
23100s | sometimes you need an X Factor and I |
23103s | suppose that's something I I hadn't |
23104s | listed because I I'm not really a prison |
23107s | of Yong player myself but you know every |
23111s | once in a |
23112s | while you have to be a True Believer to |
23114s | play that card you have to just close |
23116s | your eyes press the button and |
23119s | go we've had quite a few Believers this |
23121s | tournament there is the wind fury on the |
23123s | second one we'll get to see what Mana |
23125s | cost was picked and it is the one Mana |
23127s | so that is the optimal weapon for the |
23129s | warrior you see the thumbs up from B |
23132s | there even the gain two armor I think |
23136s | yeah why not right |
23140s | I I guess that the pause here is does |
23144s | banter want to use it to actually just |
23146s | draw cards because we doesn't have Odin |
23149s | yet right is there a world where he |
23150s | actually wants the card draw to be able |
23152s | to just use it to try and get to that |
23154s | Wing condition or is he saving the |
23157s | weapon for the win condition yeah I mean |
23160s | there that's possibility there's always |
23162s | the option as well of just like well I'm |
23163s | going to take some time so my opponent |
23165s | doesn't know that I got the best weapon |
23167s | possible uh and you know then you maybe |
23170s | just hold on to this go for turn nine |
23174s | you Finley and try and play Odin that |
23177s | same |
23180s | turn and yeah this is go time for the |
23182s | dirty rats from balance yeah there goes |
23186s | the MCB face will be very happy to see |
23188s | especially if there's a second one |
23190s | getting played now yeah pulling no |
23192s | minions |
23195s | yeah balance gets the bad |
23198s | news you know still good position on |
23201s | board |
23202s | but Bo is kind of irrelevant for most if |
23206s | not all of of this match up for these |
23209s | two |
23210s | decks yeah it's like oh B the face is |
23213s | like oh I can use my removal cards now |
23218s | perfect yeah this would now be the |
23220s | perfect time to draw Odin and not only |
23222s | is it exactly on curve but also just |
23225s | seeing those dirty rats get played out |
23227s | but not going to be drawn quite |
23231s | yet I almost wonder at what point you |
23234s | prison for |
23235s | codra well I think you know the shield |
23238s | Block in hand right like there is the |
23240s | well there's maybe the weapon I'm not |
23242s | sure exactly the outcome of what the |
23244s | weapon was after what I'm imagine was wi |
23249s | Fury it all depends on what ban or where |
23254s | banter feels he he is in this matchup |
23256s | right after seeing those rats is is this |
23259s | just like oh well you know as long as |
23262s | there's no crazy disaster that comes out |
23264s | I'll be fine or is it I still have to |
23267s | get a lot of work |
23269s | done I think banter can |
23272s | expect that the 10 Mana weapon is you |
23275s | know what's waiting in the wings here |
23277s | right having seen the five come down you |
23279s | figure all right there is going to be a |
23281s | 10 meta weapon to contend with my |
23282s | opponent still has coin so being a |
23285s | little conservative with the removal |
23287s | just using the trial by fire saving the |
23290s | blade storm uh once again like you know |
23293s | board usually not super impactful so |
23297s | just trying to conserve as many |
23298s | resources as |
23304s | possible |
23307s | one thing I will say is M bface looks |
23308s | pretty relaxed at this point in the |
23312s | game the most emotive of players but |
23315s | also just the fact that he's just s sat |
23317s | back and thinking y it's fine we'll get |
23319s | there I mean apart from you know not |
23322s | getting the opportunity to Finley he has |
23325s | dodged the big hurdle which is getting |
23328s | dirty ratted going into your turn eight |
23331s | and now it's just a matter of making |
23334s | sure that Odin is you know somewhere in |
23336s | the next in the top half of his deck |
23338s | well I was going to say that is a |
23340s | potential problem right because with |
23342s | Finley being gone now because it that |
23344s | did get pulled by dirty rat there's no |
23346s | like uh oh well it's not in this there |
23348s | it is never mind um it's not in this |
23352s | part of the deck I'll search for the |
23353s | bottom half right uh but obviously now |
23355s | with Odin coming out yeah banter giving |
23357s | the nods he is quite happy about the |
23360s | outcome of this so far and we might see |
23363s | fireworks next turn put it that way |
23366s | way yeah the strike from history being |
23369s | used from amul means that there is some |
23373s | other removal that has to be played so |
23374s | no coin weapon from balance even if |
23377s | there were some good defensive options I |
23379s | can see there's wind fury on that runic |
23381s | great hammer I'm not sure if uh there is |
23384s | the eight armor again which would have |
23386s | been something that balance is looking |
23387s | for |
23389s | but yeah now balance is very much on the |
23392s | back foot that Viper does not do |
23394s | anything to this one Mana wi Fury weapon |
23398s | as long as it it comes down the turn |
23400s | that lethal is happening yeah that's the |
23402s | benefit isn't it of going for the one |
23404s | Mana is the fact that you you equip it |
23407s | and and go basically on the same turn |
23409s | almost all the time right so uh yeah any |
23412s | removal isn't the end of the world good |
23413s | taunt to uh summon from balance though |
23416s | that's going to help out a little |
23418s | bit does have light to uh deal with its |
23424s | Odin light and then can even location on |
23428s | the what is it I think that did say gain |
23430s | armor yeah it just goes weapon gain |
23432s | armor right oh right the discount yeah |
23434s | yeah yeah so he does have I was |
23436s | forgetting the discount as long as you |
23438s | order it properly where you uh do the |
23440s | light first there is still double bash |
23443s | Shield block and you know a million ways |
23445s | to deal with this board and push a lot |
23447s | of damage uh so is that very smug |
23451s | eyebrow raise from MC face I'm not sure |
23454s | well this |
23456s | complicate things for sure |
23463s | yeah prison okay are we are we blad |
23467s | storming what's What's Happening Here |
23469s | prison first my |
23473s | interest there is always some risk to |
23476s | the prison as well cuz there's uh |
23479s | potential to burn things although that |
23481s | was the only minion left in the deck and |
23484s | also potential to discard your hand |
23487s | there is that tampering that's a |
23490s | possible random spell which discards |
23493s | your hand and shuffles one cost copies |
23495s | into your |
23508s | deck it does have the blade storm but |
23511s | unfortunately now because the prison |
23513s | doesn't really have a good way to clear |
23515s | the rest of this |
23517s | off but on the other hand the last |
23520s | ability remaining is the make a copy so |
23522s | unless balance plays something a little |
23524s | scary to make a copy |
23526s | of there's not a whole lot of use being |
23530s | U you know made out of |
23538s | it yeah the hand doesn't scream uh you |
23543s | know winning moment here from balance |
23545s | does it I think obviously the weapon is |
23547s | fantastic but other than that nothing |
23551s | really feels like it gets worked and |
23553s | like all this weapon disruption or |
23556s | removal is good in theory but with Odin |
23559s | it kind of becomes null and void is this |
23562s | just going to be a a renthal and copy |
23572s | it get a pair of five sixes no |
23576s | okay together in harmony |
23584s | quickly are we actually going to see a |
23587s | Titan be able to |
23589s | attack I know what a rarity or the |
23595s | treat that's an ah I'm not sure I've |
23599s | ever seen that card played |
23604s | hedra |
23610s | yeah it's kind of interesting with the |
23611s | world |
23613s | poool right like it's a Potential Threat |
23618s | I guess is is the word I'll |
23620s | use and balance placing some pretty high |
23623s | value on the two Mana reduction from |
23625s | love everlasting you know could have |
23627s | just let it let it pass there figure |
23629s | we're on 10 Mana don't need it anymore |
23630s | but willing to kill his own five5 saying |
23633s | you know hey damage does matter for me |
23635s | this game I just need to run you out of |
23637s | stuff so I may as well you know keep |
23639s | this buff going another way to do that |
23642s | though would have been to actually go |
23643s | for like a putride angle maybe play |
23646s | putride copy it and kill the one three |
23650s | get a couple of potions and use those to |
23652s | keep the love everlasting |
23654s | going yeah I think it's okay though cuz |
23657s | if you think about it the the ruin isn't |
23660s | going to get much value against MCB face |
23663s | right there's like nothing really to hit |
23667s | pretty much with with shadowwood |
23670s | ruin yeah true Odin it was the only big |
23673s | minion and that having passed I mean |
23676s | there's I think no minions left in the |
23678s | deck for for bace right so it's just you |
23681s | it's I think it's one of those just just |
23683s | get it out the hand right just get it |
23685s | thrown away while you can while you've |
23686s | got the |
23689s | time looks like it's going to be putride |
23692s | now though now this is about as much Val |
23695s | as balance could expect to get off the |
23696s | pure |
23707s | side though I think we do have to use |
23710s | the the weapon if we want to clear that |
23715s | 36 which is sinking 10 |
23720s | damage yeah I think if that's the case |
23722s | then you just don't bother yeah cuz |
23725s | this's the whirpool right I think like |
23727s | the the whirpool might even come down |
23729s | just to sort of juice oh never mind no |
23731s | I'm just going to play the hedra now |
23739s | okay oh I wonder if balance made the |
23745s | mistake that I was making in my head |
23746s | there which is thinking that hedra was |
23749s | based off the spells that were in your |
23750s | hand not the ones you played while it's |
23752s | in your hand oh right yeah that's why I |
23754s | was talking about whirpool right because |
23756s | like you know you play out whilst |
23758s | hedra's there and then suddenly that's |
23760s | actually a pretty you know pretty |
23761s | serious threat on average at least but |
23764s | balance sitting on 1 million Health MCB |
23767s | face on am measly 11 but there's like |
23770s | infinite armor to gain at this |
23774s | point yeah the only reason B has been |
23777s | holding back on the armor has been just |
23779s | because it it does also convert to |
23781s | damage right but I think |
23785s | probably this this sanitize is going to |
23787s | get ripped if he doesn't feel like Child |
23791s | by fire is good |
23793s | enough yeah I think so I think it's just |
23795s | I think that was the moment right just |
23797s | uh using the sanitize well I think is so |
23800s | key for this deck because if you sort of |
23804s | throw it away too early it can be really |
23806s | punishing because it does have that sort |
23808s | of just remove board effect right like |
23811s | that's what it feels like that the text |
23813s | says in a lot of these instances is just |
23815s | clear the |
23818s | board and I like this you know not a |
23821s | particularly great three drop Elemental |
23823s | to get but it is guaranteed no two |
23825s | damage and balance's location is coming |
23828s | up so you kind of disincentivize using |
23830s | that this |
23833s | turn it's also interesting as well cuz |
23835s | like banf face is just holding and |
23837s | holding um with all this because he just |
23839s | knows well it's not lethal so whatever |
23843s | and he knows he can't die as well right |
23845s | like nothing that balance is going to do |
23847s | to him will kill him from an empty board |
23850s | not that I can think of anyway you know |
23853s | nothing but random generation I think |
23855s | sure you know some people might be a |
23858s | little scared about you know say if this |
23861s | blingtron off of the random legendaries |
23864s | were an alakir then combined with this |
23866s | location you know that would be 10 first |
23869s | damage potential right but yeah largely |
23872s | outside of those Fringe scenarios the 10 |
23875s | Mana weapon was about as much damage as |
23877s | you can expect out of the priest and now |
23879s | that's out of the way you can feel |
23881s | pretty secure in your you know 16 health |
23883s | over |
23892s | there oh looks like it's going to be the |
23894s | whirpool as well again balance thinking |
23897s | well there's not going to be that many |
23898s | more minions left can't really deal with |
23900s | these and don't want to be taking any |
23902s | extra armor damage cuz that's kind of |
23904s | like the the weird issue um with armor |
23908s | on the priest right is that well you |
23909s | can't really heal it so once it's gone |
23911s | it's gone uh to an extent anyway |
23915s | so yeah armor becomes a very precious |
23918s | resource any damage you took before you |
23920s | got it you're you're fine with being |
23921s | able to heal up but uh the armor once |
23924s | it's gone it's |
23929s | gone now I believe the last riff played |
23934s | was a verse |
23936s | riff |
23937s | [Music] |
23940s | I I think I'm with you on |
23947s | that so if there was some scenario to |
23951s | like play that one Mana weapon and |
23954s | finale the verse riff we have potential |
23957s | for quite a bit of damage but yeah just |
23959s | going to go for the bridge rift this |
23961s | turn it's not lethal yet I think it's |
23963s | probably going to involve both of |
23966s | the I can never remember the name of the |
23968s | spell but the tradable the one he just |
23970s | got rid of combined with the oh heavy PL |
23973s | sword yeah heavy plate yeah yeah yeah |
23976s | yeah I I think so too and I think that's |
23977s | what's I I I was quiet for a second CU |
23980s | I'm just staring at Ban's cards that's |
23983s | left you know trying to see if you know |
23985s | what's available is he waiting for |
23987s | anything specific but there's like I |
23989s | think there's like two from the depth |
23991s | which doesn't really do anything at this |
23992s | point um there's uh there's not that |
23996s | much more in the deck apart from as you |
23999s | mentioned those heavy plates so I'm |
24001s | right there with you I think that's |
24002s | what's going to be needed here there is |
24004s | the trial by fire just to um defend a |
24006s | little bit here and I think that's the |
24007s | benefit of these Rifts is that you just |
24010s | saw or bace just saw balance have to use |
24013s | a whirpool to deal with a quite a small |
24015s | board so it's like right if these |
24017s | minions again get to a just peel this |
24019s | armor or any of this armor then it's |
24021s | they're going to be very very successful |
24023s | indeed at helping him get uh you know |
24025s | the finisher on this game cuz even like |
24027s | look at that even the behemoth's kind of |
24029s | useless apart from as a actual minion |
24032s | threat as opposed to Healing right |
24037s | right he's going to be able to clear the |
24039s | board and represent some uh threats |
24041s | himself but |
24042s | again oh there's even this Hammer to |
24044s | sort of do some you know peel more of |
24046s | this armor away until you can get hold |
24048s | of the the big burst turn as well yeah |
24052s | absolutely and and you know meanwhile |
24054s | you're feeling safe on your own life |
24055s | total so you don't even need to clear if |
24057s | you don't want to yeah as long as this |
24060s | armor number from balance goes downwards |
24063s | uh M Bandon face is going to be pretty |
24066s | happy I think the the interes in fact |
24069s | sorry um is just can or or how long will |
24073s | M bface have to wait to get hold of both |
24076s | heavy plates if they're needed right I |
24078s | think that's the the question mark I |
24081s | have yeah for sure and it's you know |
24083s | just a little trick here when you're |
24085s | drawing one card a turn you kind of need |
24088s | both but when you've seen one you're |
24090s | trading to look for other stuff to do in |
24092s | the meantime so that makes it a lot |
24094s | harder to you know actually piece two of |
24096s | them together in a turn I think |
24097s | Craftsman Hammer is one of the you know |
24100s | things that Panter was maybe looking for |
24102s | in this moment yeah to help fill the Gap |
24104s | yeah but it may come down to a you know |
24108s | prison result in terms of actually being |
24110s | able to pick up both of those heavy |
24113s | plates to use on the same |
24118s | turn and again he's like is this world |
24122s | poool is this uh |
24124s | Behemoth it's probably going to be Viper |
24126s | one way or the other right like this |
24128s | Viper is not going to get a better |
24130s | chance |
24132s | because I don't think there's a world |
24134s | where balance thinks that this weapon in |
24137s | hand from at bace is going to be a 10 |
24139s | cost mhm so this Viper's not getting any |
24144s | any more value than killing this weapon |
24146s | now when the blink Tron actually is you |
24150s | know interesting as a kind of sneaky |
24153s | secondary weapon destruction so I I |
24155s | would think you may be just again |
24157s | protecting that armor you go in on the |
24159s | Whirl poool figuring there's not too |
24160s | many minion boards left you can play the |
24162s | Viper on the other side of it and then |
24165s | if that does mean that banter is like oh |
24168s | the Viper is used I can play a 10 Mana |
24170s | weapon which of course we can see isn't |
24172s | there but it's got to be inbalance mind |
24175s | of okay well at least I have this backup |
24178s | of if there's 10 Mana weapon I can still |
24180s | destroy |
24182s | it I was actually wondering if there was |
24185s | a world where balance synchronizes the |
24187s | armor vendor |
24189s | there yeah he's going to rush drop Viper |
24192s | break the weapon and say your turn my |
24196s | friend this can help with the |
24200s | um with the draw as well right from the |
24203s | deps I I wasn't valuing it that much but |
24206s | I guess if it gets to |
24208s | guarantee none of those are heavy |
24212s | played oh and you have to put one of |
24214s | them on |
24216s | top yeah I mean it's what would you say |
24221s | it's probably Bladestorm right there are |
24223s | no minions left in the deck so chorus |
24225s | riff is |
24226s | just not nothing because it has finale |
24229s | right but it's kind of nothing it's |
24232s | about as nothing a card that exists in |
24233s | the B Face's final six cards here see if |
24236s | I can show you the cards is it going to |
24238s | work no it is not I don't know why I |
24240s | pressed that |
24241s | button no no it it it works yeah |
24245s | first oh well it's showing it's showing |
24247s | the hand as well yes I was going to say |
24250s | that's showing way more than six cards |
24253s | but still that is going to be some card |
24254s | draws you said prison now coming out |
24257s | there is a prison and I think this is |
24259s | why people are willing to play it |
24262s | because when it is you know the resource |
24265s | of Last Resort sometimes it just gets |
24267s | you there and that is a yeah huge swing |
24270s | for banter getting those those cards |
24273s | picking up both heavy plates we see one |
24275s | of them did get the reduction even |
24276s | though it wasn't viewable in the dredge |
24279s | earlier but uh yeah getting Miracle |
24283s | growth and uh you know a 99 taunt if he |
24286s | wants it on the following turn at this |
24287s | point dirty rat's just going to be |
24288s | hilarious if it comes out because |
24291s | suddenly there is a little bit scary I |
24294s | don't think it is going to come out |
24295s | because of that of course I me balance |
24297s | knows what's there right that there were |
24298s | no minions in deck before and now |
24299s | there's a 99 in |
24304s | hand but B face I think there was trying |
24307s | to just quickly add up things work out |
24308s | what he could afford to play what he |
24310s | couldn't afford to play how much man he |
24311s | needs to spend kind of similar to what |
24313s | we just saw in the well what we just saw |
24315s | what feels like an age ago now in the uh |
24317s | the Mage matchup of just working out |
24319s | exactly what this uh from at Ban's side |
24322s | of things hopefully the final turn no no |
24325s | no he's playing it for the Tot |
24329s | but oh he's just going to |
24331s | sron wait there's not enough Mana to |
24334s | replay another one I mean it would just |
24336s | be to keep the spell discount going but |
24340s | yeah I think balance was was just kind |
24342s | of in his head oh there's no minions |
24344s | left I'm going to play this taunt out |
24346s | sort of forgot that that means there's a |
24347s | N9 there yeah I thought this would have |
24352s | been again maybe slightly miscounted of |
24354s | just saying oh well actually if you play |
24357s | another one now that's still more taunts |
24359s | than there are Minions on board right uh |
24362s | so that would have been something but |
24363s | yeah kind of interesting there but |
24365s | there's runic sword and here's about to |
24367s | be 18 bajillion damage yeah and it |
24371s | really came down to like you said all |
24373s | that armor was gained earlier on but |
24375s | because it was earlier on bender had all |
24377s | his time to sort of chip away and it |
24380s | can't can't be healed back up now he |
24382s | finally goes for this Mass massive swing |
24385s | uh look at |
24387s | this going to be nearly |
24389s | 60 yeah yeah yeah nice 54 damage yeah |
24394s | basically a million if you round it up |
24397s | oh no the game two 5 |
24399s | 56 and uh but yeah really really good |
24402s | win there from abanda face of course the |
24404s | dirty rat on the oding did not happen |
24406s | the oding came a relevant time but I |
24408s | think for me the real trick there for |
24411s | MCB face was good Rec nition of how much |
24415s | damage he can do you know at whatever |
24418s | point in the game and also acknowledging |
24420s | that he should just take it slow there's |
24422s | no rush the priest is unlikely to |
24426s | surprise kill him as long as he's not on |
24428s | like three health or something right um |
24431s | and then saying yeah balance has gained |
24434s | all this armor fantastic I think was a |
24436s | 35ish armor at the highest point I think |
24439s | which is a lot but it can't be healed it |
24442s | can only be more armor or nothing so the |
24444s | heels don't work and it's just I'll just |
24446s | Chip Away Chip Away chip away and then |
24448s | when it comes down to it when it comes |
24450s | down to that final turn it's going to be |
24452s | game because that armor will all be gone |
24454s | so it's really tricky from balance's |
24456s | side because on one hand you could say |
24458s | oh it should have saved the weapon |
24460s | swings for later you know to gain the |
24461s | armor at the last moment but when do you |
24463s | know when the last moment is if Odin's |
24465s | already been played right that's the |
24467s | problem right and once you've started |
24469s | you kind of have to keep going because |
24471s | it's it's getting chipped away no matter |
24474s | what so what do you say Well they're not |
24478s | going to be able to they're going to be |
24479s | able to Chip Away 16 but but not more |
24481s | than that or or like where's the waiting |
24483s | moment I think it it's totally |
24484s | reasonable to just go all in say I'm |
24486s | going to protect this as much as |
24487s | possible and you're not always able to |
24489s | protect it |
24490s | perfectly yeah and suddenly we're only |
24493s | one game away is mcbf going to be able |
24495s | to clear this up 3-0 or is balance going |
24498s | to be able to fight back um bface now |
24501s | only has his Mech Rogue left the Nate |
24505s | Shaman was banned out H so it's just |
24507s | Mech Rogue to go against basically the |
24509s | whole lineup uh from balance so very |
24512s | very scary indeed because time after |
24515s | time this weekend we've seen Mech Rogue |
24517s | get the job done either through you know |
24519s | an extremely aggressive openings or |
24521s | surprisingly still managing to to finish |
24524s | the job in the mid to late |
24526s | game yeah it's a deck that you know on |
24529s | on one level you think oh it's just |
24531s | turbo and if you don't win by turn five |
24533s | it's its game over but uh it does have a |
24535s | lot of staying power if it is able to |
24538s | you know pick up those gear shifts Etc |
24541s | and there's just so many like little |
24545s | plays you can make with with mimran to |
24547s | like squeeze out extra value or with |
24550s | Ultron uh and uh a lot of times we we've |
24554s | seen yeah the game goes long but they're |
24555s | able to just squeeze in a little damage |
24557s | here a little damage there such that I |
24559s | mean krabo has almost been the allstar |
24561s | in those situations for just right |
24563s | getting that bit of extra damage over |
24564s | the Finish Line yeah and I can only |
24567s | imagine what's going through B's head |
24568s | right now because those have been two |
24571s | you know pretty rough games right of not |
24574s | I I don't want to say hopeless games but |
24575s | probably feeling like that when you're |
24577s | playing the sort of slow control deck |
24580s | and then you just die right and again |
24583s | it's not like mcface did anything to out |
24586s | of this world it's just that's what |
24587s | those two decks the Mage and the warrior |
24589s | do but it it feels a little bit rough |
24591s | when you're not hitting right it didn't |
24593s | hit the didn't hit the uh the Odin but I |
24595s | guess that's the sort of game you play |
24597s | right if you bring a control priest and |
24599s | a lot of these sort of burst otk |
24601s | matchups come down to dirty rats when |
24603s | you hit you hit when you miss you miss |
24605s | we're going to go jump in to game number |
24607s | three though and I think that was |
24608s | fortifications the plus one Health per |
24610s | turn um on a minion correct me if I'm |
24612s | wrong if you sorry uh it it was and that |
24615s | is a pretty good one for the mech Rogue |
24619s | but we are actually going to see uh |
24621s | Rogue V Rogue I think balance needed a |
24623s | break there from the control priest |
24626s | understandable even though I would say |
24628s | this is the matchup that you want with |
24630s | the control priest there's definitely |
24633s | some Merit to saying okay well let's get |
24634s | my harder matchups out of the way and |
24636s | then hopefully it's a cruise if you get |
24639s | to play that control freest again yeah I |
24641s | think a lot of it honestly is that there |
24643s | are certain players that go one way |
24645s | certain players that go the other when |
24646s | it comes to this kind of situation but I |
24649s | would guess that bounce is just like I |
24651s | just need a moment away from priest cuz |
24653s | those were two very you know drawn out |
24656s | kind of long crazy games let's just jump |
24658s | over to somewh else because he's going |
24659s | to have to play priest versus Metro if |
24661s | he wants to win this match up anyway he |
24663s | has to win with all three of his decks |
24665s | so um you know that's going to come when |
24667s | it |
24669s | comes and I think that's why a lot of |
24672s | players have opted not to bring |
24674s | something like a control priest to an |
24675s | event like this because there is just |
24677s | added mental strain in terms of your |
24680s | games are longer and you know should you |
24683s | continue to lose with priests your |
24685s | losses are longer so uh I think I |
24689s | totally understand why you know so many |
24691s | players have opted for other options |
24693s | like the you know nature Shaman or |
24695s | Arcane Hunter these faster decks just |
24699s | because even if you do say oh I feel |
24702s | okay about control priest I mean three |
24704s | priests did make it to the top eight one |
24707s | of them Shadow but it's just not a deck |
24711s | that certainly I would want to be |
24714s | you know going all in on for an event |
24716s | like this where it's just taking up so |
24718s | much time and and mental strain |
24721s | throughout the |
24722s | event yeah it's something I look I |
24724s | struggle as a SLE well knows once I get |
24727s | to the four and a half hours straight |
24729s | casting Mark I struggle to even remotely |
24731s | make sense so in terms of playing I |
24733s | respect the players who can bring these |
24734s | uh slightly slower lineups so far though |
24737s | B has been able to put forward some |
24739s | level of Defense here against MC Banner |
24741s | face keeping things uh keeping the mech |
24744s | Rogue in check at least for |
24745s | now but he's going to be able to answer |
24747s | with the gatekeeper magnetized going to |
24750s | make this nice value trade and this is |
24752s | where you start to get a little bit |
24753s | afraid right if you're balanced in this |
24755s | situation cuz you just sat there |
24757s | thinking oh oh no like that's going to |
24760s | stick and now I'm |
24762s | afraid yeah and oh let's Health buff |
24767s | again you know I said from the beginning |
24769s | I think this favors the mech Rogue |
24772s | and sure enough we're we're kind of |
24774s | running away with this one that wind |
24775s | Fury coming down all the extra coins and |
24779s | I think the eyebrow raise there from |
24781s | balance is all we need to know yeah want |
24784s | to hear my just a bit like ah so that's |
24786s | how it's going to go M banter face hands |
24788s | in the air just saying right do you have |
24791s | something do you not are there any kind |
24792s | of concoctions that are going to help |
24794s | and just like that Palance has just said |
24797s | no thank you that's enough for me and M |
24800s | banter face is going to be going to the |
24803s | the finals to face off against pocket |
24806s | train two very intense games earlier |
24810s | finished off by me Rogue being me Rogue |
24814s | what a way to end this match yeah |
24817s | absolutely and I got to say I'm I'm a |
24819s | little you know biased in terms of |
24822s | wanting bface to get through there right |
24824s | is our our our last hold out for |
24826s | America's region but uh also in terms of |
24829s | you know I catch his streams every once |
24831s | in a while he's he's a really fun guy |
24833s | and and uh yeah he's been I mean all of |
24836s | these players have been grinding |
24838s | massively but bface has been a recurring |
24840s | name this year uh you know not |
24843s | necessarily in the the top eight of |
24844s | every event the way the pocket has been |
24846s | but certainly been present at each of |
24847s | these events this year yeah and and |
24850s | honestly what a final it's going to be |
24852s | uh there's going to be some uh some |
24854s | Stakes on the line extra at least for |
24856s | the casters since it's going to be |
24857s | pretty much UK versus the America so uh |
24860s | that's going to be a pretty spicy one |
24862s | and I am |
24863s | one I would love to cast it of course |
24865s | but I I am off for this next match but I |
24867s | will very much enjoy putting my feet up |
24869s | and watching this finals because it's |
24871s | going to be fantastic simply two of the |
24873s | best players we've had at at least all |
24875s | year at the very least even saying that |
24878s | so it's going to be absolutely fantastic |
24879s | we're going to go to a quick break while |
24881s | we get this finals set up but don't go |
24884s | anywhere it's going to be amazing we'll |
24885s | be right |
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25350s | it's finals time everybody and what a |
25353s | final we have got mcbf face pocket train |
25356s | sttle they're all here all of your three |
25358s | favorite people um two of them are |
25360s | streamers one of them used to do so |
25361s | sttle how's it going uh it's going great |
25365s | it was a bit of a deranged intro but I'm |
25367s | I'm here for it I am a genuinely really |
25371s | really really excited for this final I |
25374s | think in terms of quality of players we |
25377s | very arguably have the best player in |
25380s | Europe against the best player in |
25381s | Americas um I think that's almost |
25383s | inarguable on pocket side for for Europe |
25386s | on and you know bit of an argument for |
25387s | bface on the other side I think also you |
25390s | know sometimes you you have to put your |
25392s | personal biases aside and sometimes you |
25394s | just have to declare your personal |
25396s | biases and I think also in terms of just |
25398s | people that both of us like and actually |
25400s | have kind of like personal relationships |
25402s | with with and talk to regularly two |
25404s | players that we're really delighted are |
25405s | doing really well in this tournament as |
25407s | well so um I am really really excited to |
25411s | get my team sunk into this one I think |
25413s | it should be a fantastic final for our |
25416s | yeah and I think from the viewers right |
25417s | I think people have watched these two |
25419s | players come through the whole 10mon |
25421s | grind to get here um on stream a lot of |
25424s | the time I know pocket train slowed it |
25426s | down a bit but people know these two |
25428s | players they're two of the players |
25429s | who've streamed the most of this |
25430s | tournament throughout the whole year and |
25433s | I think that people would be delighted |
25434s | to see these two here obviously there's |
25436s | recr there one of the other players |
25437s | who's done that me we didn't get to see |
25439s | much this weekend but another one they |
25441s | they've really helped this tournament |
25443s | Along by showing us the insights of how |
25445s | the ladder has |
25448s | unfolded probably two of the best |
25449s | players they absolutely are and you see |
25451s | some of those final moments of POG train |
25453s | getting over the line I think it's very |
25454s | fitting that we are looking at the |
25455s | nature Sharman here because I made this |
25457s | point uh during pocket semi-final is I |
25460s | think part of the reason why he has been |
25462s | so successful is that he has had an |
25464s | easier time getting this Shaman out the |
25467s | series than a lot of other players have |
25470s | some of that has been good play some of |
25472s | that has been good fortune some of that |
25474s | has been bad play from the opponents |
25476s | some of that has been a combination of |
25477s | you know maybe a little from column A |
25479s | and C with that that weird game against |
25482s | in the semi-final with CIF being the |
25483s | last card but maybe they're being |
25485s | different ways out of the game but |
25486s | certainly nature Shaman um you know |
25490s | glass half empty glass half full you can |
25492s | kind of say yeah you know it's sub 50% |
25494s | win rate it's not doing great and you |
25496s | can frame it that way or you can stack |
25498s | it up against the other Decks that a lot |
25500s | of other people have put in that fourth |
25501s | deck slot and say well it's doing a lot |
25503s | better than any of those are um so but I |
25506s | do think it's a real talking point for |
25507s | the tournament of uh whether that was |
25509s | the bring in terms of the the out thebox |
25512s | deck that at least every player has at |
25514s | least one of it seems and something I |
25516s | don't think we've touched on necessarily |
25518s | this tournament which is unusual for |
25520s | this group of casters is it's very much |
25522s | a pocket trained sort of deck draw some |
25525s | cards do some stuff count your health |
25526s | total know how much you die to know your |
25528s | outs kill your opponent somehow like yep |
25531s | it's it's his wheelhouse entirely he's |
25533s | very good at all of hearthstone but this |
25535s | deck is very much like how you define |
25538s | him or priest defines him this is |
25540s | remarkably similar in a lot of ways to |
25542s | that yeah it was one of the fears I had |
25544s | coming into this tournament as a pocket |
25546s | train enjoyer or is like was there |
25547s | really was this really a pocket train |
25549s | meta right like you you mentioned B |
25551s | priest of course |
25552s | um but we've also seen it with mlock |
25555s | where he was probably a top five mlock |
25557s | player with you only Fury Hunter and a |
25559s | couple of others really uh stepping |
25561s | above him um he really does like those |
25564s | you know card draw heavy bursty damage |
25566s | heavy decks in general and this feels |
25569s | like a very Tempo focused board-based |
25572s | aggr meta overall uh where you know it's |
25575s | boards and it's disruption and control |
25576s | on the other side um so finding that way |
25579s | to just sneak nature Shaman in there I |
25581s | think just as a little Comfort pick for |
25583s | pocket train has been very very |
25585s | interesting but speaking of uh board |
25588s | based decks and snowballing and aggro no |
25590s | deck in the game really does that better |
25592s | than Mech Rogue does and we've seen uh |
25594s | both of these players now pocket train |
25596s | and MC bface almost one uping each other |
25598s | with how gross a start they could get |
25601s | rolling with Mech Rogue in their two |
25603s | yeah how good must Mech Rogue be if |
25606s | anace has brought it instead of bringing |
25608s | Miracle like Miracle Rog is one of his |
25610s | go-to decks when he he's you wants a |
25613s | comfort pick he's brought the Mets I |
25615s | think that's um yeah he can play |
25617s | anything but it's just as a sign of how |
25619s | good this deck must be and it's it's |
25621s | shown it right every game we cast Mech |
25623s | Rogue it looks like oh they got lucky |
25625s | yeah 17 times in a row or something I |
25627s | it's not quite that many but you know |
25628s | many times in a row the Met has just won |
25631s | from nowhere now but got it work out |
25633s | against the Sharman because they can |
25634s | turn your good card into a pudding and |
25637s | that's the end of the game yeah |
25639s | primordial pudding that that well-known |
25640s | Shaman card um um it's yeah I think me |
25644s | Rog was something that I did I was very |
25646s | very bullish on would be a good deck in |
25648s | this tournament because um you know like |
25650s | I played a lot of Mech Rogue I turned |
25652s | you on to Mech Rogue and you had a good |
25653s | time with Mech Rogue as well um and I |
25656s | really stopped having any success with |
25658s | it at all as soon as yog appeared |
25661s | essentially because then we fell into |
25662s | that prison breaker yog meta where if |
25664s | you were dumb enough to try and put |
25666s | things in the middle and play minions um |
25669s | well yog just came along and just you |
25671s | stole your one giant magnetic minion oh |
25673s | okay I won't make one giant magnetic |
25675s | minion I'll spread a little bit wider |
25677s | instead okay well yog Mia now that's |
25679s | gone anyway right that there felt like |
25681s | nothing that you could do with mecro to |
25683s | play around that so with Y gone this |
25685s | just felt like a natural extension back |
25688s | in to the uh to The Meta game what I'll |
25691s | be interested to see here as the game |
25692s | and final have started is how this feral |
25696s | Spirits get used do you just jam it or |
25697s | do you wait for a moment when your |
25699s | opponent's got an 1111 that's about to |
25701s | kill you and then just PL po it on the |
25702s | board and say you can't get through this |
25703s | it's too difficult I think the only |
25705s | thing that makes that question is that |
25707s | there is also a turn the tides in hand |
25709s | and there is also a jazz base in hand |
25711s | right like if um I talk about this a lot |
25713s | but this deck really really really wants |
25716s | to play a Tempo 3 on turn three a lot of |
25718s | the time there I think pocket train |
25720s | doing the exact opposite of that and |
25723s | playing flash of lightning instead but I |
25725s | think understanding already that because |
25727s | there is a 47 Divine shield on the board |
25730s | none of his threes are Tempo threes |
25732s | anymore right like feral Spirits kind of |
25734s | garbage doesn't contest turn the Tide's |
25736s | kind of garbage doesn't contest so he |
25738s | has to go flash of lightning lightning |
25740s | reflexes instead this has to be his way |
25742s | out of it to go digging with the |
25743s | lightning reflexes this time yeah and |
25745s | I'm amused obviously because you are the |
25747s | main proponent in the entire world of |
25749s | playing flash as early as possible in |
25752s | this sort of |
25753s | situation so oh my |
25756s | goodness no |
25758s | still what not even close the one that |
25762s | looks like wind Fury is reborn that's |
25764s | not what hang on hey they all look the |
25766s | same all the all the blue |
25770s | ones right so here's the pop well the |
25772s | early pop off gets the |
25777s | hex is a massive deal it is a really |
25781s | really big deal |
25782s | yeah and this allows him to use the |
25785s | feral Spirits as you were describing |
25788s | like okay if more Buffs and wind Fury |
25790s | come down now like I I might still take |
25792s | some damage depending on how good the |
25793s | hand is but it's unlikely that you know |
25795s | they can make uh this a 10 attack minion |
25798s | and connect face twice right and then |
25799s | I'm really in trouble |
25801s | so yeah I was looking through the win |
25803s | percentages of you know all the matchups |
25805s | obviously that's kind of my job coming |
25808s | into this and this is one of the more |
25809s | lopsided ones in favor of the um Sharman |
25812s | which is not your first instinct I don't |
25814s | think but the more we've seen it played |
25816s | the more we've seen Sharman have |
25818s | multiple ways with the taunts with the |
25820s | hexers with the evolve effects to deal |
25822s | with stuff it's only 58% like |
25825s | everything's 50/50 in this meta give or |
25826s | take yeah but yeah it's one of the more |
25829s | upsid ones I think that was a surprise |
25830s | to me when I first saw it thinking that |
25833s | the Rogue should just steamroll this |
25835s | just just enough little tricks that the |
25836s | shaman has if played correctly yeah I |
25838s | think so |
25842s | too so how are you going to use your |
25844s | inie we had this question I think you |
25846s | raised it earlier with Raven like in is |
25848s | great but they're killing every Mech |
25850s | that they can kill so what does innie |
25852s | actually do a lot of the time yes um |
25855s | obviously the dream is um in with some |
25858s | sort of magnetic squirrel uh it is |
25861s | continues to Astound me how nonsense |
25863s | some of the sentences this job makes you |
25864s | say are but um that is kind of the dream |
25869s | but sometimes if you keep that dream if |
25870s | you clutch onto that dream too tight you |
25872s | end up just having a dead in in your |
25874s | hand the entire game like I think |
25876s | generally any if you can point it at a |
25879s | Mech is probably the best play in your |
25882s | hand obviously you can't do that this |
25884s | turn but I think a lesson that you have |
25885s | to learn very quickly is like just just |
25888s | use it it's really good um if you don't |
25891s | use it you're probably going to end up |
25893s | gear shifting it away at some |
25895s | point and facing that horrible situation |
25898s | going into this turn six where you know |
25900s | what can happen to you so yeah make a |
25902s | board that doesn't involve getting blown |
25904s | up |
25907s | everything there's some words I just |
25910s | said get doesn't involve getting blown |
25912s | up everything yeah those rearrange these |
25914s | words into a popular |
25916s | [Laughter] |
25919s | sentence into a popular sentence yeah |
25921s | it's probably more popular than any in a |
25923s | magnetic squirrel right I imagine |
25925s | whatever the correct version of your |
25926s | sentence was has been said more often |
25929s | than my previous |
25930s | sentence true or at least at the time |
25932s | that I said it yours may have caught up |
25936s | okay so pocket train still on 26 still |
25940s | with a feral in hand has an active Titan |
25943s | he's got card draw in hand and a crash |
25945s | this looks really good for Shaman right |
25947s | now it does look very good yeah there's |
25949s | a choice here though oh that was not one |
25952s | of the choices I was about to lay down |
25954s | okay yeah there was actually three ways |
25956s | to go about that right one was this uh |
25958s | spend the spell discount and then you |
25960s | shoot for 20 there was also draw three |
25964s | and then use turn the tides and send |
25967s | face and the minion into the |
25969s | 66 uh and then there was um deal three |
25973s | heal six and then use just the minion |
25977s | and not your face from turn the tides to |
25979s | clear the entire board right like all |
25981s | three of those have relative merits uh |
25983s | kind of weird actually to play a Titan |
25986s | and actually have all three a serious |
25988s | consideration for the ability on the T |
25990s | yeah really cool I me it's one of the |
25992s | best Titans if not the best just in |
25993s | terms of raw power level um but |
25996s | something that pocket train does and I |
25997s | think you also highlighted this earlier |
25999s | is whenever you see his play like oh |
26000s | that's obvious you can't kill my Titan |
26002s | now I can use the deal three ability |
26004s | next turn they they very rarely actually |
26006s | get rid of it here obviously you do this |
26009s | yeah the so the reverbed mimon where he |
26011s | reborned his mimon traded the two |
26013s | reverbed memons into each other to get |
26015s | an unreversed |
26031s | I'll be telling my grandkids about that |
26034s | lucky them yeah can't they just watch |
26036s | the |
26038s | VOD right so now because of his previous |
26040s | play he has another use of his ability |
26043s | which means he can just draw the rest of |
26044s | his important cards and win some |
26047s | Hearthstone yeah and like serious point |
26049s | I think that's why this play wins the |
26052s | battle because it put taunts up and the |
26055s | one thing that Mech Rogue really has to |
26057s | deal with minions from hand is Krab TOA |
26060s | so by having the feral |
26061s | in it kind of shut down really any |
26064s | option for B to be able to remove theg |
26067s | which I think just made this really |
26068s | really really smart |
26073s | overall and uh yeah like pocket tra like |
26077s | banter face has just just got got Tempo |
26080s | Kong this game like this is why pocket |
26082s | train is arguably the best player with |
26084s | this deck in the world like he wins an |
26086s | inordinate amount of games by just |
26089s | winning Bard which isn't really thing |
26091s | that should seem possible with this deck |
26093s | winning board but like this this is the |
26095s | thing that I think he does incredibly |
26097s | well again other top players will also |
26098s | do it incredibly well um he still |
26101s | lightning bolts face as well with a plus |
26102s | five it's not just the he manages to mix |
26104s | the direct damage and the tempo to a |
26107s | very early lethal I know it's not |
26109s | particularly amazing but you I'm sitting |
26111s | there going do I temper or do I hit them |
26113s | in the face with the Spells no you just |
26115s | do |
26116s | both you've got two things to win the |
26118s | game |
26120s | with |
26124s | this is a |
26134s | lot |
26139s | yeah forced to take down the spell |
26141s | damage minions to have any sort of |
26143s | remote chance down of |
26150s | ther |
26153s | just unlock a whole bunch of free Mana |
26156s | again uh turn the tides and overdraft |
26161s | one |
26162s | [Music] |
26163s | off |
26164s | 6 |
26167s | 36 probably six on board oh no sorry I |
26171s | was counting the turn the tides is doing |
26172s | six damage which it doesn't you're |
26174s | further off than that it's only 11 |
26180s | total |
26183s | something that's come up throughout this |
26185s | tournament time and again is the rogue's |
26186s | lack of ability to actually hurt you |
26188s | when it gets going so you can just tank |
26190s | six or seven there just so comfortably |
26193s | if it keeps you the board yeah this is |
26195s | about the scariest situation for rogue |
26197s | that exists or me Rogue that is like |
26199s | they haven't played their krabat TOA yet |
26200s | so that's some amount of damage you can |
26202s | take from the weapon and they have a |
26204s | couple of mimon Gadgets in hand right |
26206s | which can also be damage but even in |
26208s | that scenario you're super chilling at |
26211s | 19 with an empty |
26213s | board yeah V's having to use his weapon |
26215s | to just hurt himself over and over |
26218s | again |
26222s | a go on little buddy you got |
26229s | this well there's my hand good luck |
26233s | everyone I like these nice slow paac |
26235s | finals where the players take their time |
26237s | and rope every turn yeah yeah yeah for |
26239s | sure everything on the line taking their |
26242s | time to make sure they get it |
26243s | right |
26245s | fish |
26247s | fish |
26249s | fish fish p face hasn't got any cards |
26254s | stop it's not |
26257s | fair fish |
26260s | fish |
26262s | fish there we go just Just Fish them |
26265s | till they leave that's the that's the |
26267s | way why was the fifth fish the one that |
26270s | broke the back |
26272s | so I've seen enough fish now I want to |
26273s | see what colors they |
26275s | were well okay one schooling okay one |
26278s | fish two fish three fish oh I think I |
26281s | can beat that oh Red Fish Blue Fish on |
26283s | top of that as well oh okay I'm out you |
26285s | got me just the wrong color fish and |
26288s | anace gives it up and pocket train who |
26290s | played at lightning speed there one Zer |
26293s | ahead Yeah clean game um like I said |
26296s | pocket train is is kind of unparalleled |
26298s | at being able to do that kind of stuff |
26300s | with uh with nature Sharman just turning |
26303s | the handful of tempo cards that the deck |
26305s | has which are incredibly good right like |
26309s | schooling buff feral Spirits is only one |
26311s | overload turn the tides those cards are |
26314s | really good at winning boards between |
26315s | turn one and turn four right like |
26317s | they're so so good at it but if you can |
26319s | do it consistently and then keep that |
26321s | board for a couple of extra turns |
26322s | through your gogen you win a lot of |
26324s | games of hearthstone just by being ahead |
26326s | on board through the early turns and I |
26328s | think it's a lot a thing that even with |
26330s | the version that ended up getting nerfed |
26332s | a lot of people struggled to understand |
26334s | for quite a long time is that it's a |
26336s | much better Tempo deck than it seems |
26339s | apparent immediately uh but pocket train |
26342s | has always been ahead of the curve with |
26344s | that kind of thing right like even with |
26346s | M lock right like there was probably |
26348s | Fury Hunter who's better at playing for |
26350s | Tempo with melck and then pocket train |
26351s | was probably the closest one behind that |
26353s | as understanding how a deck somehow with |
26355s | like zero minions in it can actually |
26358s | still sometimes play for Tempo which is |
26359s | incredibly bizarre |
26361s | um and I think that is the mark of |
26363s | Mastery for a combo player it's that |
26365s | they actually still manage to play for |
26367s | Tempo with combo decks because at the |
26369s | end of the day I said this earlier this |
26371s | is Hearthstone it is an incredibly Tempo |
26374s | focused card game and just before we get |
26377s | into this Mage Mo where nobody has a |
26379s | keyboard um did you catch how many C |
26381s | there's one did you catch how many cards |
26382s | pocket train had left in his deck at the |
26384s | end there when we saw the replays I did |
26386s | not no did you he had eight cards left |
26388s | in his deck nice so not only he |
26391s | generated all that Tempo but in eight |
26393s | turns he had drawn 22 cards in some way |
26395s | or other nice so he's doing all the |
26398s | things it's not like it's luck that he |
26400s | happened to have those cards he's drawn |
26402s | his deck so he's going to have those |
26406s | cards small thing here but keyboard not |
26409s | being played onto uh just playing the |
26411s | spell playing the minions a again swings |
26413s | the tempo you're now ever slightly ahead |
26415s | on 10 point ever slightly behind |
26417s | secondly you don't really have anything |
26419s | to do on turn three any anyway so if |
26422s | You' done it the other way around you |
26423s | play Cosmic keyboard on two you take a |
26424s | little bit of Chip damage from the |
26426s | minion that you leave up from banter |
26428s | which is important and then you end up |
26429s | burning one of your charges on that one |
26432s | Mana spell on turn three when you end up |
26434s | doing the same thing anyway whereas the |
26436s | way pocket did it he ends up in a |
26438s | scenario where now he gets to spend all |
26440s | three of these charges on nice juicy |
26442s | four Mana plus |
26444s | spells yeah and yeah you see Banta sort |
26446s | of shrugging a bit this match up I don't |
26448s | know what the stats are it's massively |
26449s | favored from the first keyboard but it's |
26451s | definitely not over like there's so much |
26453s | generation so much can go on that yeah |
26456s | if you get through this somehow and you |
26458s | have your own keyboard later yours |
26459s | generate s s so you do have a chance to |
26461s | come back into this I did wonder where |
26463s | that was going I did for a moment think |
26465s | you might be having a stroke when you |
26466s | started well I haven't really looked at |
26467s | the matchup data for this mirror match |
26469s | yeah I was I was kind of wondering where |
26471s | you going no the match up data for |
26472s | people getting keyboard first yeah yeah |
26474s | it's massive right so ridiculous but you |
26478s | can win by coming through the other side |
26481s | and generating your own bigger stuff |
26483s | later on it's the same it's the same |
26485s | thing I was just talking about right |
26486s | like it's it's two Decks that are |
26488s | resiliant enough that they aren't going |
26490s | to lose to the other one on board a lot |
26491s | of the time so it does make it an otk |
26494s | deck versus an otk deck but the tempo is |
26496s | still phenomenally important because if |
26499s | you're ahead and you're chipped you're |
26501s | pushing chip damage to your opponent you |
26503s | might only have to do 20 with your siif |
26505s | at the end of the game right whereas the |
26507s | other person who's been scrambling to |
26509s | clear boards the entire time is going to |
26511s | have to do 30 35 40 depending on how |
26513s | much armor you've stacked so banter is |
26516s | actually doing a phenomenal job right |
26519s | now even though pocket train has had all |
26520s | the tempo cards to be able to stay ahead |
26522s | banter is just going okay no no no no |
26524s | small minion small minion small minion |
26526s | clear your stuff push a little bit of |
26527s | Chip damage every turn yeah and it it |
26530s | came to play there with um like one of |
26532s | the turns was artificier into worm into |
26535s | bolt your two Health thing just so I've |
26537s | got some little things on the board |
26539s | there they're still there one three one |
26541s | two one two chipping three a turn |
26543s | defending a little bit something massive |
26544s | comes |
26545s | down um making this nor and you know |
26548s | still very powerful but at least they |
26550s | could do something to |
26552s | it you want six attack on the |
26559s | board po taken his time it's it's rare |
26563s | that the first Norman isn't plus cards |
26566s | uh or plus one to |
26568s | cards but again with a six damage on the |
26570s | Bo that that plus one to card is |
26572s | supposed to defend you but six damage |
26575s | already there that plus one to card |
26576s | isn't defending you much yeah I think |
26579s | the question you have to ask though is |
26580s | like if your opponent like wind Furies |
26582s | all their minions into your norgon and |
26584s | then throws a spell at it cost too much |
26586s | is that not still not a good turn yeah I |
26588s | think I think this is right all |
26593s | right I guess my point is Imagine This |
26595s | turn if he hadn't got six attack on the |
26597s | board oh 100% yeah |
26601s | o |
26603s | ooh now then now they all live or most |
26607s | of them |
26609s | live yeah yep yep yep okay two of them |
26612s | live but you know that's most 50% |
26615s | rounded up three of them live cuz only |
26617s | two have to attack in yeah okay I was |
26620s | right well long I knew it you're a |
26622s | secret genius yeah pretty sure that's |
26626s | true very well kept |
26629s | secret and again just ripping two four |
26632s | five and a 7 |
26634s | Seven what's in his |
26638s | hand banter is so much more Juiced on |
26641s | the uh on the spell School front as |
26643s | well just gets to counter swing this and |
26647s | he survived the the weapon and he's come |
26649s | out of it kind of ahead and he's got rid |
26651s | of the Titan as well he's he's in an |
26653s | okay spot in the long term here I think |
26655s | he's in a very good |
26659s | spot |
26661s | pocket is going to need some sort of |
26663s | answer from discovery of magic probably |
26665s | to be able to deal with this board |
26667s | State yeah or uh wisdom of nogan into |
26671s | creation but again the the spell skools |
26673s | just aren't jued enough like nogan costs |
26675s | uh three so we're only two spell scools |
26676s | deep right |
26678s | now and those are not it if if he |
26682s | doesn't deal with this just B to just |
26683s | rip the other one knowing that these |
26684s | can't be dealt with so okay off we go if |
26687s | he doesn't deal with this he might be |
26689s | dead also |
26693s | true death born yeah |
26701s | sure |
26703s | okay but banter knows that was a |
26706s | scramble right there's a good idea that |
26708s | was a |
26715s | scramble just a little bit scary in |
26718s | terms of what happens to the seven one |
26721s | not scary but awkward you don't you |
26723s | don't want to trade you don't want to |
26724s | trade either of your four threes into it |
26726s | right you don't want to necessarily |
26728s | throw one of your one Mana Spells at it |
26729s | because you have a siif in your hand you |
26731s | also don't really want to coin ping |
26733s | because King po coin is an incredibly |
26736s | good card in this scenario as well y it |
26739s | it does help a lot when you get three |
26741s | Rush from your thing though that's |
26743s | pretty |
26744s | good oh option four who cares about |
26747s | it I think you can trade the other |
26749s | skeleton and yeah so if |
26752s | you that's very frustrating yeah you see |
26754s | the little slight curl of the mouth from |
26757s | banter face so with the first Rush going |
26760s | into the skeleton if that skeleton had |
26762s | hit either of the other two Rush minions |
26764s | I think you can just toss that Rush |
26766s | Minion that's already damaged into the |
26767s | seven one right and not feel too bad |
26769s | about it because you do want to protect |
26771s | this coin but yeah I think at this point |
26773s | the Minions that you have left that can |
26775s | attack are all more valuable than that |
26779s | coin |
26788s | Reverb just to get the yeah just casting |
26791s | Reverb to get the shadow cast oh nice |
26794s | nice nice nice |
26808s | nice okay |
26815s | yeah seems good I agree |
26818s | banter is he just counting next turn |
26820s | lethal though before he just plops this |
26824s | down like he could Forge oh I mean |
26826s | that's that's what I'm referring to is |
26828s | just foring the molten room |
26831s | potentially to |
26833s | do cuz the the primary disruption that |
26836s | your opponent has is the norgon of their |
26838s | own which is already gone right so it is |
26841s | largely uninterruptible apart from |
26843s | discovered things on the other side and |
26845s | you're very unlikely to be dead you just |
26847s | to work out do you need to kill off this |
26849s | 4 four for I mean that's trivial right |
26852s | like killing the 4 |
26855s | four cuz it's uh it's reverbs like you |
26857s | could have just pinged it if you were |
26858s | really that desperate to do it no I |
26860s | realized I just it's Mana but he's got |
26862s | zero Mana spells well this is just a |
26863s | million next turn he's decided he's not |
26865s | taking 20 whatever it is three |
26868s | mhm seems a good thing to |
26871s | realize yeah I mean your opponent played |
26873s | Shadow spell wisdom for two Mana last |
26877s | turn right so they're not you know you |
26879s | know quite comfortably that they're not |
26880s | they're not like seven eight spell |
26882s | scools deep at this |
26894s | point why don't good players die they |
26896s | just find things it's because they know |
26899s | what they're looking for obviously ly |
26900s | but you know he's going to die |
26918s | now and it's one on in one of the |
26921s | fastest Pac finals I've ever |
26924s | seen oh and banter face has 16 corpses |
26928s | incredible oh that's what we really |
26930s | needed to know yeah yeah yeah B squares |
26933s | up the series and honestly like big big |
26936s | pat on the back it's you know you talked |
26938s | about it keyboard versus no keyboard but |
26940s | really really impressive the way that |
26942s | banter responded to it like as soon as |
26944s | he saw that keyboard come down he was |
26945s | like okay fine here are all my small |
26947s | minions and then I will throw my entire |
26950s | hand at clearing your keyboard stuff |
26952s | every single turn just so I can chip |
26955s | away with these minions in the end not a |
26958s | huge Factor because he had a million |
26960s | damage in hand because of the way things |
26962s | Drew out in the end but it there were |
26964s | lots of Worlds where that was incredibly |
26966s | relevant right where he didn't just |
26968s | naturally draw into the Naga and the |
26971s | Reverb and everything else at the end of |
26973s | the game and he just had to put together |
26975s | a little scrappy do lethal instead um |
26977s | then that the way that early game was |
26979s | played uh gave him way more outs in |
26982s | terms of uh you know how quickly he |
26984s | could get through his deck and find that |
26985s | burn damage I mean it made the |
26987s | anti-magic shell perfect like there's |
26989s | time well I get offered anti Magic Shell |
26991s | I haven't got a minion on the board but |
26992s | he's got four of them even though they |
26993s | were small yes it's a good good thing to |
26995s | rip but also if you got the four minions |
26997s | there and half I don't know if it's half |
26999s | a large number of the spells in half |
27000s | Zone affect your minions and you're |
27002s | going to get random cards let's have |
27004s | some Minions that we can affect and he |
27005s | did that as well so just trying to |
27007s | highlight what H's also saying about the |
27010s | the importance of having stuff on the |
27011s | board especially in that Mage Miller but |
27013s | in all of heart think s ramble that home |
27015s | this |
27016s | weekend I'll find some other point to |
27019s | Ram home I've got plenty of them don't |
27021s | worry about it I've been doing it for |
27023s | years um yeah Mage Mage picking up a win |
27027s | I'd think was largely expected I think |
27029s | it's been largely expected for the |
27030s | tournament um it's outside of warrior |
27032s | it's been the most successful class and |
27034s | the only reason I'm calling Warrior more |
27036s | successful is that you have to do |
27038s | relative percentage taking bands into |
27041s | account as well right which I think |
27042s | makes Warrior a more successful deck |
27044s | overall the |
27045s | Mages uh so uh that Mage picking up a |
27048s | win I think well I guess what I'm saying |
27050s | is the Sharman win for pocket train I |
27052s | think is a more important win Conquest |
27054s | is a weird format where sometimes the |
27055s | score doesn't reflect uh the who is |
27058s | actually favored in a series right just |
27060s | because the series is 1 one does not |
27062s | mean it's evenly poised and I do think |
27064s | the Sharman was a bigger win for pocket |
27066s | train than the Mage was for banter face |
27069s | overall and but we will see how things |
27071s | go because this is a mirrored series |
27074s | overall I'm not sure if we have uh made |
27076s | that point yet met crog rainbow Mage and |
27079s | nature Sharman being the three decks |
27080s | left up for both players with Odin Mage |
27082s | uh Odin Mage no please stop um Odin |
27086s | Warrior being the deck that was banned |
27088s | out by both people that that would |
27090s | actually be gross by the way imagine |
27092s | with the 1 three Elemental and you just |
27093s | start casting infinite spells and just |
27096s | gaining a bunch of armor and smacking |
27097s | your opponent in the face that sounds |
27099s | yeah just Cold Case yeah makes a 4 four |
27102s | two two tws and hits your opponent in |
27104s | the head for four gives you four armor |
27105s | yeah it sounds all right that card um |
27108s | but yeah I agree with you large I think |
27110s | that the Mage |
27111s | stats it's interesting right you look at |
27113s | top thousand stats and they're nothing |
27115s | like the stats when the top 16 play and |
27117s | that's something I don't think we've |
27118s | talked about as much this time as in the |
27119s | previous two masters tours where there's |
27122s | 25 players in the world who are |
27123s | substantially better than all the others |
27125s | yeah yeah I I made the point earlier um |
27128s | it might have been yesterday that I |
27130s | think you know looking at publicly |
27132s | available stat tracking websites and |
27134s | trying to draw conclusions about highle |
27136s | competitive Hearthstone is as futile now |
27139s | as it is ever been it's a combination of |
27141s | a few factors um there's more |
27143s | competition in the market for that kind |
27144s | of stuff right now so the user bases |
27146s | split several ways in terms of what data |
27148s | is being reported where um and also the |
27151s | difference between a 1,000 Legend and a |
27154s | top 50 Legend is bigger now than it ever |
27156s | has been um because there's only a small |
27158s | portion of players that are taking it |
27160s | seriously to the point of being able to |
27162s | qualify for these tournaments yes um so |
27165s | those conclusions are very hard to reach |
27167s | sometimes but it's interesting that you |
27169s | say you know you look at Mage as a |
27171s | general uh sample on on stat tracking |
27174s | websites and it has kind of lower stats |
27176s | overall than when the very very good |
27178s | players play it because I think you'd |
27180s | agree the only conclusion that you can |
27182s | draw from that Neil is that Mage is a |
27183s | very skillful deck that the best players |
27185s | can get a lot out of no the conclusion I |
27187s | draw is that everyone was scared of Mage |
27189s | and brought Decks that beat |
27191s | it so why is Mage doing well hang on |
27194s | what what we say why is it doing well um |
27197s | because the other decks are getting |
27200s | unlucky okay all right |
27204s | good do you want to like you know make |
27206s | your stance on Mage clear so I have to |
27209s | stop trying to needle it out of you or |
27210s | are we we just no you can watch me on |
27212s | stream I'll make it clear there later in |
27213s | the week just just check it |
27217s | out uh yeah I mean pocket train and |
27219s | banter face both regulars in uh the |
27222s | stream that Linda appears on camera on |
27225s | which you know that calls Linda's stream |
27228s | but I think everyone really knows SLE |
27230s | stream deep down I think we all know |
27232s | what's there for it's everybody's stream |
27234s | this was another option of not playing a |
27236s | keyboard on two by the way which is was |
27238s | a less obvious one this time around last |
27240s | time the curve kind of worked cuz it was |
27242s | the three into the four there was no |
27243s | three drops but this time just still |
27246s | faving moving the mech which again kill |
27249s | mechs they they kill you yes um but |
27251s | forfeiting the turn two tempo of lack of |
27254s | tempo of the keyboard to even with a |
27257s | Reverb in hand just make sure that Mech |
27260s | were dying kill Mech or they kill you I |
27263s | think the Terminator series would have |
27264s | way worth synopsis if written by Linda |
27267s | just turn out then it's it's very |
27270s | understandable I think between me and |
27271s | Raven we could come up with some good |
27272s | synopsis for all sorts of |
27281s | things this is interesting we the |
27283s | speaker guys have been pretty lethargic |
27287s | this entire weekend but this is a |
27288s | situation where B try and leverage them |
27290s | pretty |
27298s | strongly yeah they've been fine I can't |
27301s | really remember any like blowout moments |
27304s | where it's like well I guess I just have |
27305s | to make this play and if if they have |
27306s | speaker stomper I lose the game |
27308s | automatically like we've definitely seen |
27310s | those games in previous tournaments and |
27312s | there haven't been too many of them so |
27314s | far that I can remember in this one but |
27316s | I do still think they are a fine |
27318s | addition in most decks of this kind of |
27320s | style with Mech Rog you know I think if |
27322s | you were playing like I don't know |
27324s | plague DK or some sort of Unholy DK |
27326s | you'd want them in there as well like |
27328s | what so any deck that's like super Allin |
27330s | and having board all the time uh I do |
27333s | think you need them in there to defend |
27334s | from the the likes of Mage and nature |
27336s | Shaman and all that kind of stuff I |
27337s | think the reason they've been a bit |
27339s | below par this weekend is because |
27340s | there's so much aggro and so many |
27342s | minions in this particular tournament |
27345s | like sure yeah there's very few Decks |
27347s | that it targets apart from the Mage |
27349s | there's been no plague DK at all which I |
27351s | think is something we thought we'd |
27353s | see one or two priests two priests in |
27355s | the whole tournament you know yeah I |
27358s | don't thought we'd see like feared we'd |
27360s | see would be more accurate from my |
27362s | perspective I like I yeah it's less bomb |
27366s | Warrior less plague DK please things |
27369s | where you just Shuffle things into your |
27370s | opponent's deck nah not my |
27373s | vibe |
27378s | Shuffle |
27383s | okay I'm excited when I see stealth and |
27386s | then Titan in the same hand yeah are |
27392s | feels like damage waiting to |
27404s | happen there is an imulation aura in |
27407s | pocket's hand that's kind of the most |
27408s | useful |
27410s | uh random effect that he's been able to |
27413s | get his hands on so far but not really |
27415s | going to have any kind of impact on this |
27423s | board that's a lot lined up with a |
27435s | prime |
27438s | okay |
27442s | this is now a very awkward board against |
27444s | the prime right like there's what's |
27446s | what's the good option to take from |
27447s | Voltron Prime against |
27451s | this |
27453s | yeah |
27455s | well like I think plus damage is still |
27457s | the strongest but then you would expect |
27459s | that board to get dealt with you haven't |
27461s | drawn cards from the prime your board |
27463s | gets cleared how do you rebuild from |
27465s | that point you kind of don't shoot Dam |
27469s | out there and hope they don't have |
27470s | another turn but you know they've got |
27471s | another turn cuz they've got a weapon |
27473s | and seven Mana next turn |
27478s | y right like best case scenario you you |
27481s | voltr on Prime you do double damage it |
27483s | kills the two five ones and you be push |
27485s | face with the minion that you have |
27487s | you're still probably losing that entire |
27489s | board next turn right so what what good |
27492s | does that actually do so did he look for |
27494s | stealth into wind Fury here just to just |
27497s | end it as an out he still looking for |
27499s | stealth that's why this ended up being |
27501s | the pick |
27510s | yeah now how do you |
27516s | win that's the F pretend stealth if I |
27519s | you pretend |
27528s | stealth |
27535s | oh oh the creation comes into hand as |
27539s | well yeah I was going to say it's a |
27541s | pretty good imulation Aura but it was an |
27544s | even better inquisitive creation as that |
27546s | came off the top I think the one way you |
27548s | end up losing there is getting baited |
27550s | into playing Elemental inspiration on |
27552s | curve even though it was fantastic if |
27553s | you get Zero Rush from it there are |
27555s | worlds where you just randomly die out |
27557s | of |
27558s | nowhere |
27559s | pocket train too smart to get baited |
27561s | into that world creation coming off the |
27563s | top making it basically a formality to |
27564s | sweep that |
27566s | board so bface needs to set up lethal |
27569s | for next turn and that might not be |
27571s | enough CU there's so many ways around it |
27574s | yeah so many |
27580s | options like spark bot draw to or you |
27583s | can go spark bot for damage try and get |
27585s | some of the damage to go face and then |
27587s | like you draw exactly crab off the |
27591s | top |
27593s | yeah I think it's card |
27596s | draw no he's going to go for the full |
27598s | damage |
27603s | okay yeah I |
27605s | mean like whatever and I'm sure there's |
27607s | a better option and a worse option there |
27609s | but they were both like sure I'm not |
27610s | going to argue whatever you choose there |
27612s | partly cuz you're better than me but |
27613s | partly because they're all Desperate |
27615s | Measures don't you whatever me Linda I |
27618s | what B to face this is F this is finals |
27622s | the winner of this goes to Worlds I'm |
27624s | not accepting whatever as an answer okay |
27628s | explain in great detail why Pit Stop |
27629s | wasn't better look for stealth so I |
27633s | actually as I reflect on this I actually |
27636s | think this was better cuz it creates a |
27640s | one in N how many minions are in play I |
27642s | can't actually remember it creates a |
27644s | niche out where both shots for four go |
27646s | face and then with your one dagger swing |
27648s | you can put youron to four exactly and |
27651s | then you draw crab off the top and you |
27652s | win the game that is a better out than I |
27654s | can think of than by drawing two cards |
27658s | and not dealing any damage that turn so |
27660s | in lie of me being able to give you a |
27662s | better out with two extra cards I think |
27663s | banter Face's decision there is correct |
27665s | I wanted to draw a buffed stealth minion |
27668s | stick it on the board my opponent |
27669s | doesn't roll toward and I kill them with |
27671s | it with the cards next |
27674s | turn where are you getting a buff |
27676s | stealth Minion from I'm discovering |
27679s | yeah oh so you want to draw the other |
27682s | pit stop and then play the other pit |
27684s | stop and get the okay yeah sure that's |
27687s | still two turns away though right |
27688s | because you're spending all your Mana oh |
27690s | that that turn on one drop and Titan |
27693s | right so you then have to spend the next |
27694s | turn playing the pit stop uh so it's |
27697s | still a couple of turns away which I |
27698s | think makes life pretty pretty awkward |
27700s | overall but as predicted hey the Mage |
27703s | picked up a win who who saw that coming |
27705s | right Linda so it's just met Rogue uh |
27708s | left for pocket train on the other side |
27711s | which it's only Mech Rogue left between |
27714s | pocket train and what has been a 10mon |
27717s | journey which genuinely without |
27719s | exaggeration has destroyed this man's |
27722s | Soul yeah part of is wondering if if we |
27725s | get to talk to him later if he does win |
27728s | if his answer is going to be why didn't |
27730s | I do that sooner yes are you are you |
27733s | happy you won this tournament no I |
27735s | should have won a different one I'm I'm |
27737s | half expecting that to be a reply if |
27738s | that's a question that gets asked yeah |
27741s | it's been it's been incredibly arduous |
27744s | this the system this year has asked a |
27746s | lot from our players and these players |
27749s | who are here deserve incredible |
27750s | Commendation for accepting that |
27752s | challenge and stepping up to this plate |
27754s | to be here um but certainly like pocket |
27758s | train looked I'm about 12 years old in |
27761s | January 2023 I'm pretty sure and now |
27763s | look he's got facial hair he's frowning |
27766s | you can see the the the fear IND his |
27769s | eyes like this man has we hope that's |
27773s | water he's gone through a journey |
27775s | whereas there's bface same as bface has |
27777s | looked since the beginning of time I'm |
27779s | pretty sure there he is look yeah I |
27781s | wonder if he looked sort of this this |
27782s | mid 20s look when he was at school as |
27784s | well cuz I don't remember him ever |
27785s | looking any different I wonder if it's |
27787s | just a loop on his webcam that he's been |
27789s | playing for like the last 5 years |
27792s | now it explain so much it would explain |
27795s | Raven's problems if identifying whether |
27796s | he'd won or not |
27797s | earlier |
27800s | all right fish we've seen how that can |
27802s | go |
27807s | down schooling's absolutely the draw |
27810s | that you want though I think I I again |
27812s | you want to talk about keyboard stats I |
27814s | don't specifically know the stats in |
27817s | this matchup for mulligan win rate of |
27819s | schooling but I would imagine it is |
27821s | pretty |
27823s | massive sounds good doesn't it |
27826s | like to the point that he's considering |
27830s | he's shaking his head cuz he has to lose |
27831s | two fish |
27833s | but |
27835s | yeah go try and get better value out of |
27837s | them by waiting for the the full six |
27840s | attack rather than the the |
27843s | three oh |
27846s | hello |
27849s | oh unfortunately three fish do six |
27852s | damage so you can't just safely land a |
27854s | mimr on here that's not a |
27857s | thing |
27861s | is that reborn that is reborn that's |
27864s | huge yeah that's that's the |
27870s | boy do you play the |
27880s | weapon like weapon and swing and just |
27884s | delay fish again hope that they don't |
27886s | get stealthed up |
27890s | what to |
27896s | [Music] |
27902s | do so all the bad things that can happen |
27905s | to you here um outside of everything so |
27908s | squirrel comes down on curve right like |
27910s | that's the big one that you have to |
27911s | think about so you need one bump to beat |
27914s | the Divine shield and then you need uh |
27916s | four damage to at least be able to reset |
27919s | it back to the second click clocker that |
27920s | will come off the reborn that's fine |
27924s | actually you probably need five damage |
27927s | because they'll use the coin to play |
27929s | another spark bot presumably so assuming |
27931s | it's they're all bad spark Bots that |
27933s | don't do anything that ruins your plan |
27935s | you can do all that with three fish |
27937s | right one the one one fish to take off |
27939s | the shield then you have the two attack |
27940s | fish and the three attack fish does this |
27943s | allow you to knowledge |
27945s | though knowledge as well as clear with |
27948s | the fish not if anything relevant comes |
27951s | down to magnetize onto it |
27957s | no CU you can only do three to it right |
27959s | so this is the same as just having a |
27961s | squirel magnetized onto it right it |
27963s | would have full health either way and |
27964s | you can only deal three to it if you |
27965s | play ancestral knowledge at the same |
27967s | time I think I've known you too long and |
27970s | I'm getting way too ambitious now I want |
27972s | to flash an ancestral here and close my |
27976s | eyes ra put this that doesn't last for |
27979s | it that just doesn't work I kind of love |
27983s | it i' got loads of Mana next turn I've |
27987s | got reduced cards I've got two two |
27988s | reductions in my in my |
27992s | base okay he's going to play sens damn |
27997s | it oh he can do this and like he could |
28000s | have also flashed he could still |
28002s | Flash no no no no you |
28007s | can't |
28009s | oh using the weapon you mean yeah yeah |
28011s | you absolutely correct yeah he could |
28013s | have done but I think at that point use |
28015s | weapon and ancestor knowledge is just |
28017s | better right cuz the re the reason to |
28019s | flash there is to say okay I'll just put |
28021s | a bit of paper over this scary board for |
28023s | now and then I'll reveal it again next |
28025s | turn and use all my discounted Mana to |
28027s | deal with it next turn once you've |
28029s | actually dealt with that board I think |
28030s | the the relevance of playing flash on |
28032s | that board actually goes away quite a |
28033s | lot and the BL flexus was there by the |
28035s | way which he will have |
28037s | noticed was the next card you mean like |
28039s | it one two with the ACC he would have |
28042s | had the reflexes in the flash turn mhm |
28045s | turn down |
28048s | that hey you remember when we said we'd |
28051s | never really seen a game where speaker |
28052s | stomper just locked someone out yeah |
28056s | yeah kind of this one huh very much so |
28059s | it's not going to lock out just the game |
28061s | so I think it's going to lock out the |
28067s | tournament |
28071s | he's looking for anything to do can you |
28073s | see |
28080s | anything can see things it's just a |
28083s | question of whether those things are |
28084s | actually any |
28086s | good I think the answer to that is |
28088s | probably |
28092s | no there's another stomper in the hand |
28095s | even if there's not a lethal right off |
28097s | the top |
28102s | you could have gone lightning reflexes |
28104s | for altered cords which would have cost |
28107s | three less one more less but then two |
28111s | more because of the speaker stomper so |
28114s | cost three as long as you were |
28115s | overloaded which would have been |
28117s | playable and just shot the mimon if you |
28118s | hit exactly aled cord off first option |
28121s | that's probably not good enough to go |
28127s | for |
28129s | yeah just making annoying shapes now as |
28135s | well me being me there would just Jam |
28138s | the second stomper cuz hey they didn't |
28140s | have it last time but |
28143s | yeah |
28147s | nope technically that keeps you alive |
28151s | right the |
28152s | Gogan uh you'd have to use the discount |
28156s | to throw a lightning bolt at something |
28158s | thing as well just leave up the the |
28164s | 55 uh but is it is it more winning to |
28167s | open the lightning reflexes for |
28169s | primordial wave |
28171s | instead because the base of the minion |
28173s | on the right is a click clocker right so |
28175s | it turns into a penguin yes I |
28181s | believe yeah the The Goth play feels |
28184s | like it yeah I survived but it's still |
28187s | horrible |
28190s | mhm I let your play I want to open the |
28192s | box there's |
28194s | also Radiance reflexes and shoot for the |
28198s | crash of lightning as well cuz you have |
28200s | zero Mana lightning bolts at that point |
28202s | but if you were going to go for that |
28203s | line you needed to have started 30 |
28204s | seconds |
28215s | ago |
28217s | okay |
28218s | oh it's it's all it's yog it's prison of |
28220s | yog to go to Worlds I mean that come on |
28222s | we come on I mean we can talk about what |
28225s | the right players all as much as we |
28227s | want like pocket did you come this far |
28231s | to be a coward like you're get it there |
28233s | anyway pocket come on you're the points |
28235s | leader you can do it |
28237s | honestly pathetic kind of cringe to be |
28241s | honest mhm what just two six Sixers yeah |
28246s | yeah a not being at the World |
28249s | Championships |
28251s | already could have just gone yeah could |
28255s | have just pointed prison of yog at your |
28257s | opponent's face and you'd be fist |
28259s | pumping already this is how much he |
28261s | doesn't want to play in |
28266s | November uh alter cord is there but I |
28270s | think really banter wanted this to be a |
28272s | cheap Reby spell which you might just |
28275s | have to end up taking conductivity to do |
28280s | that I mean feral is there but yeah I |
28283s | was just looking F spirit is just |
28284s | taunting him as it were |
28287s | [Music] |
28293s | there it's what he hasn't had all game |
28295s | is he yeah this is how pocket train won |
28297s | the reverse of this which in a mirror |
28299s | matches what you want like he had the |
28300s | double feral like 30 seconds bant you |
28303s | got to |
28304s | go yeah I think this is the choice now |
28307s | altered cord is |
28309s | incredible but isn't there primordial is |
28312s | now |
28313s | though that is two snow flipper penguins |
28316s | and a playable |
28317s | crash oh |
28321s | no |
28323s | wow oh the Spells cost one more that is |
28327s | an absolute |
28330s | [Music] |
28332s | disaster both players head in hands in |
28335s | the end pocket train barely even looking |
28338s | satisfied yes that is correct you are |
28341s | looking at the player that won and I |
28344s | think you are just seeing the emotion of |
28346s | everything Dawn on this player of what |
28348s | they have gone through this year to get |
28350s | to this point yeah second Masters Tour |
28352s | win of course first one of this year but |
28354s | also beating someone who I suspect is a |
28356s | pretty close friend at this point |
28358s | because all of the people have been |
28359s | streaming this and all of the people |
28360s | have been hanging out who have been in |
28362s | the top 16 as well been hanging out |
28364s | together sort of in it together all year |
28366s | so yeah um yeah |
28368s | there is a little bit of sadness in |
28369s | putting your friend potentially out of |
28371s | the tournament and bface now is going to |
28373s | have to perform miracles on the points |
28376s | to be honest to get into Worlds now um |
28378s | on the system because weq is just going |
28380s | so well in the America system so tinge |
28383s | with sadness for pocket trade but also |
28384s | the emotion of finally winning one after |
28387s | a final earlier in the year and yeah 10 |
28390s | months of grinding out and lad to get |
28393s | here yeah it's been a long whole journey |
28396s | for uh for everyone involved but I think |
28399s | pocket train after everything is is a |
28402s | wonderful player you know I I called it |
28404s | out during his semi-final just in |
28406s | comparison to |
28409s | um everyone else in this tournament who |
28411s | have accolades and things that you can |
28414s | praise them for and then you compare |
28416s | that next to what pocket has done and |
28419s | start to realize just you know how much |
28422s | better pocket is than some of even the |
28423s | best players that we have in the world |
28425s | so I personally am delighted have him |
28428s | guaranteed at the World Championships um |
28430s | and it does really now open up that |
28432s | extra spot in the race as well for uh |
28435s | players to try and make it then yeah |
28437s | let's have a look at how it went down |
28439s | after this because it has been a week |
28443s | just going to have a look at the top |
28444s | four though so pocket train beating |
28445s | Hemlock which um you know I was hyping |
28447s | up this one because this is the people |
28449s | we know of stream but Hemlock was sort |
28451s | of pocket trains not his pick but the |
28453s | person he wanted to make sure we talked |
28455s | about a lot because he says that Hemlock |
28457s | is was wasn't getting the plaudit he |
28458s | deserved and and then he beat him so |
28460s | it's the perfect setup really well done |
28464s | pocket and bface beating out balance |
28466s | balance struggled a little bit with the |
28468s | pressure one of the first times we've |
28469s | really seen him deep in the tournament |
28471s | made one or two mistakes I think in that |
28472s | semi-final um but also a fantastic |
28474s | performance just to get here and then to |
28476s | get all the way to that semi-final uh |
28478s | with priest as well which was not a |
28480s | popular bring this weekend so well done |
28482s | to balance as well yeah I think very |
28485s | very impressive you're right again to |
28487s | call out Hemlock you know when I was |
28488s | saying you can take a player that has an |
28490s | incredibly good record this year um |
28493s | Hemlock was kind of the example I was |
28495s | going for there where Hemlock has three |
28498s | top eights now overall two top eights |
28499s | and a top four in the three tournaments |
28501s | are available is stood fifth overall |
28503s | globally in the point standings again |
28505s | prior to this event um but then you |
28508s | stack that up against pocket who's had a |
28510s | third fourth a second and now a first |
28513s | and is joint first in the standings |
28515s | globally overall like yes there is a |
28519s | smaller sample of tournaments that are |
28522s | available to be competed in at the top |
28524s | level this year than there have been |
28525s | before but in terms of just complete |
28528s | domination of the field and consistency |
28530s | throughout the whole year it's lad |
28532s | finish after ladder finish after ladder |
28533s | finish into there being three major |
28536s | tournaments available and he's been top |
28537s | four in all of them in a card game in a |
28540s | game where there will be people watching |
28543s | this stream right now saying oh what |
28546s | what are we watching this for it's all r |
28547s | anyway like no shut up it isn't some |
28550s | people are just better than others and |
28552s | pocket train is one of those people yeah |
28554s | and not to mention that he won an open |
28556s | Masters Tour in 2022 as well which you |
28559s | know give or take 350 400 players |
28562s | whatever it is and he had other strong |
28565s | results in those tournaments as well |
28566s | player that's really com to his own we |
28568s | saw him coming he was one of the players |
28569s | we did sort of know was on the way from |
28572s | a long way out he like this guy's going |
28573s | to be good he just needs to get bit |
28575s | confidence I think he struggled a little |
28576s | bit on camera like like everybody does |
28579s | the first few times out I remember |
28580s | talking to all sorts of players who have |
28581s | said they've struggled on camera you |
28583s | after they've won three or four big |
28584s | events like yeah I used to be really |
28586s | scared didn't want people thinking I was |
28588s | stupid well win then then then they |
28590s | don't think was stupid um people over |
28593s | getting nervous but he's done all that |
28595s | now and yeah the emotion there at the |
28597s | end fantastic to see hopefully have a |
28600s | little chat with him as well yeah |
28601s | exactly if you're wondering why we are |
28603s | uh quite clearly just vamping for time |
28605s | right now we are hopefully going to get |
28606s | pocket train on the line to have a few |
28608s | words with him but I guess now would be |
28610s | a good moment as well to shift the focus |
28611s | to Banter face for a second because um |
28615s | you know he has has come on Leaps and |
28617s | Bounds I think this is not the time to |
28620s | be you know throwing out the meme again |
28622s | but he's a player that I I undervalued |
28624s | and underappreciated for quite some time |
28627s | um during his time in America's Grand |
28629s | Masters and I think you know he really |
28632s | since then has been able to separate |
28633s | himself from the pack and make the point |
28636s | that he make the AR argument that he |
28638s | could just be the best player in |
28639s | americaas um and coming as close as he |
28643s | did you know we've talked about it from |
28645s | the perspective of pocket train where |
28647s | it's like okay he's put all this time in |
28649s | and imagine that outpouring of emotion |
28651s | of like oh my God I actually did it like |
28653s | this is all been worth it the goal is |
28654s | there you then have to flip that and |
28657s | think what does it feel to a player |
28659s | that's now thinking oh hang on I |
28661s | invested all this time and I got you |
28663s | know one card one discover one decision |
28667s | here away from making that a reality and |
28670s | now it's all been snatched away and |
28671s | again like you said the uh the the |
28674s | standings for the Americans |
28676s | qualification uh wiq has a pretty |
28679s | substantial lead overall over banter |
28681s | alog together so going to be a really |
28683s | really rough one from banter from here |
28685s | but he has made an incredible accounting |
28687s | of himself this year overall to to to |
28690s | play as well as consistently as he has |
28692s | yeah and I think of all the people have |
28694s | talked about who've been streaming the |
28696s | event he's been the one who has |
28698s | constantly put in infinite hours uh I |
28701s | know me's put in a lot of time as well |
28703s | obviously uh but bace he managed to |
28706s | mix doing the infinite hours but still |
28709s | playing a wide variety of things you |
28711s | know the end of some months yeah |
28712s | obviously he goes down and Knuckles down |
28713s | and plays the best deck but he didn't |
28715s | just play the same thing to qualify |
28717s | every time he he showed his versatility |
28720s | on stream all year and hopefully he |
28722s | continues to do that even I presume he |
28725s | will take some break of this this has to |
28726s | be training for him but presumably we'll |
28728s | see him back in streaming |
28730s | and probably playing a little bit more |
28732s | Mimi like he enjoys doing as well um |
28735s | another point I just want to make while |
28736s | we're waiting for pocket train to be set |
28738s | up is I think one of the reasons you may |
28740s | have underrated him is something we |
28742s | always struggled with casting him was |
28744s | because of the decks he brought he liked |
28746s | to play Hunter he liked to play the more |
28747s | aggressive stuff the selling point was |
28749s | he didn't make mistakes he wasn't one of |
28751s | these players like pocket train playing |
28753s | B priest playing 27 cards a turn drawing |
28756s | his deck and killing you he just didn't |
28758s | mess up he just did the right thing over |
28761s | and over and it was very hard to |
28763s | identify the really good plays it was |
28766s | yeah and again |
28769s | like no but like you were you you were |
28771s | casting America's Grand Masters right |
28773s | and so true the the the standard of like |
28776s | oh okay well this player just isn't |
28778s | making mistakes when you cast Europe |
28780s | Grand Masters you're unimpressed by a |
28782s | player that just doesn't make mistakes |
28784s | right because you're used to seeing |
28786s | people who always have the right lineups |
28788s | are always playing at the top of their |
28789s | game are actually like innovating the |
28791s | way that matchups are being played at a |
28793s | top level um and I think that's where |
28796s | banter has arguably made that extra step |
28798s | forward as well yeah yeah just to word |
28800s | it's slightly better he was not he |
28803s | wasn't playing Decks that allowed him to |
28805s | show off his flare because yeah so the |
28808s | the the reduction was he's not making |
28810s | mistakes |
28811s | yeah theer didn't also allow him to need |
28814s | to make flashy plays yeah I think ready |
28817s | though to have a word with our champion |
28819s | Pock you can see some of the moments he |
28822s | went through to get to that point the uh |
28825s | the variation of emotions uh through the |
28828s | earlier games in the tournament and that |
28830s | final moment as he was able to uh step |
28833s | past a good friend of his uh in mcbf |
28836s | face in the final he's been through a |
28838s | long road not just today but over the |
28840s | entire year to uh to get to this |
28843s | point indeed he |
28846s | has |
28847s | to face crushing moment at the end like |
28850s | yeah primordial wave was great but |
28852s | obviously you're devolving away your own |
28854s | uh your own discount at that point which |
28857s | means then you're just that one Mana |
28858s | short of being able to play anything |
28860s | relevant to clear up the board so an |
28861s | absolute Heartbreaker a banter face in |
28863s | the end but we do get to find out the |
28865s | emotions of the winner |
28869s | now you hear me hello you pocket train |
28873s | you did it you're going to Worlds I mean |
28876s | I think you knew you were probably going |
28877s | to Worlds but uh we saw it in the |
28879s | realization how does it feel to actually |
28881s | be going to Worlds got to be honest man |
28883s | that's the worst way to do it I really |
28886s | like I'm very confident that I was going |
28889s | to have enough points to make worlds |
28890s | anyway I really don't want to have to |
28892s | grind ladder for the last month but uh I |
28895s | felt really bad beating bant over all |
28897s | people um like I was hoping he would |
28900s | make it obviously so that I have just a |
28902s | stretch three finals and I was I was |
28904s | super happy the entire time last last |
28906s | master to the finals like it showed I |
28908s | was stressed I knew like there and then |
28911s | win this get to Worlds and I botched it |
28913s | as a result but now like one month to go |
28916s | it's like I I haven't even skipped the |
28918s | year I've done the hard part and then uh |
28921s | one at the worst possible moment and |
28923s | denied a friend a world spot so it's |
28925s | it's a bit Bittersweet but I am happy |
28926s | that uh it's finally |
28929s | over um so that's that's nice but uh |
28932s | yeah uh the whole Banda thing is is is a |
28935s | little bit bit sweet sure |
28938s | so first off uh nice nice to once again |
28941s | have a proper Accent on the stream |
28942s | pocket welcome um secondly uh I think |
28946s | you know you just I was going to ask you |
28947s | about you know we saw the emotions on |
28949s | your face which were best described as |
28950s | mixed at the end of that game um but I |
28953s | think you've described that accurately |
28955s | already so I guess we'll just talk |
28956s | Hearthstone stuff instead um you tweeted |
28959s | your lineup talking about like least bad |
28961s | decks um I think the decision in there |
28964s | was like Mech Rogue when a lot of other |
28966s | people were bringing secret and as well |
28967s | like nature Shaman being the fourth deck |
28969s | out of the the the field of fourth Decks |
28972s | that were available what was the |
28973s | reasoning behind those two like a little |
28975s | bit more in depth so I mean I I prepped |
28979s | mostly with Casey and mey for this one I |
28981s | I would have prepped with ream but he |
28983s | said he didn't want the distraction from |
28985s | ladder and studies or something and then |
28986s | he prepped like a maniac anyway um just |
28989s | on sort of slightly on his own um a bit |
28991s | of a tangent and uh just in testing |
28995s | every deck felt bad for pretty much and |
28998s | then I played Metro and it went like 70% |
29000s | Plus in testing just stomped everything |
29003s | and then I thought okay well since every |
29005s | deck feels bad there's no way I'm not |
29007s | bringing this one because it actually |
29008s | feels good and then I've got one more |
29009s | deck to deal with and I was actually on |
29013s | Relic Demon Hunter like Casey until like |
29015s | the last 10 minutes oh um and |
29018s | then I think I spoke to bter actually |
29022s | with like 10 minutes to go and we like |
29024s | exchanged lineups even though we didn't |
29026s | really prep together and then he had the |
29029s | same lineup as me but with I think no |
29031s | Mech Rogue and he had drum Druid and I |
29035s | had um The Relic D instead of the shaman |
29040s | you said a proper accent I was kind of |
29041s | hoping ra Raven would hit be here so we |
29043s | could unfiltered speak the truth of how |
29045s | to pronounce Shaman but |
29047s | uh um all right C interview over kick |
29050s | him out like he out his |
29052s | time we we we like swapped a deck each |
29054s | and then it just turned out to be the |
29056s | best lineup cuz we met in the finals uh |
29058s | which was which was quite nice uh cuz |
29061s | yeah the last deck just felt bad no |
29064s | matter what it was Relic DH felt okay |
29066s | but it just couldn't beat met grogue the |
29069s | idea was get stuff that's decent into |
29071s | Mage and Relic did a better job of that |
29074s | but it felt like it did a worse job |
29075s | against everything else than the nature |
29077s | Shaman which is yeah I felt validated |
29081s | when everyone else started bring when |
29082s | when everyone else was bringing it |
29083s | because I thought okay at least uh if |
29085s | I'm in the bin I'm I'm in the bin with |
29087s | everyone else so there's a chance that I |
29088s | just hire Al mirror at least we're all |
29091s | just scrapping in the same dumpster yeah |
29093s | um how do you how do you feel you played |
29095s | overall because I know you were kind of |
29096s | critical of your performance in the last |
29097s | Masters Tour a little bit like do you |
29099s | feel you reached the standards you set |
29101s | for yourself in this one not in the |
29104s | final um but up until then I'm very |
29108s | happy with it because I was playing |
29110s | stress free for the most part but not so |
29112s | stressfree that I got a bit sloppy which |
29114s | I think I did in the final for sure um |
29118s | but up until then I was very very happy |
29120s | with my play I think um yeah especially |
29124s | like I felt like I had no right to win |
29126s | any game against Hemlock and then and |
29128s | then three 0 which |
29130s | uh that that had me buzzing for a very |
29133s | very long time |
29135s | um uh the earlier rounds I yeah I |
29138s | remember the first match on stream |
29140s | against tansu specifically that one made |
29142s | me feel great because I went into this |
29144s | not feeling the most confident because |
29146s | prep wasn't as in-depth as it has been |
29148s | in the past and then I came away from |
29150s | that Series going there's a there's a |
29152s | chance I played every turn perfectly and |
29154s | then just built Confidence from then and |
29157s | uh yeah it's felt kind of good stress |
29160s | free since because I I've always had |
29162s | this feeling that I kind of needed to |
29163s | prove myself and then I feel like with |
29165s | what I've done previously this year that |
29167s | was kind of gone so whatever happened |
29169s | happened this time I I could lose I'd be |
29171s | at Worlds then then do the business |
29173s | there uh so yeah it's been a little bit |
29175s | stress free so I think I think my plays |
29177s | have been |
29177s | more more clear because last time |
29181s | distress kind of it makes your brain all |
29183s | muddy and stuff stuff just gets a bit |
29185s | bit overwhelming but this time yeah |
29187s | thoughts have been mostly |
29189s | clear I don't think I've ever seen a |
29191s | clearer example of the pocket train plot |
29193s | armor than that Series against Hemlock |
29195s | like that that was absurd how you were |
29196s | still in your tournament this tournament |
29198s | after that I have absolutely no idea but |
29200s | uh we've been told that we do have to |
29201s | let you go so we'll give you one last |
29203s | final opportunity any thank yous |
29205s | commiserations shout outs any thing that |
29206s | you want to give the floor is yours well |
29208s | the the biggest thank you for sure for |
29210s | well banter he gave me he gave me a deck |
29212s | that I won the Masters Tour with um and |
29214s | obviously commiserations to him I really |
29216s | wanted to see him at world so I do feel |
29217s | a bit rough for for doing that to him um |
29222s | uh mey Casey who I'm very happy to have |
29225s | helped out because he he needed one of |
29227s | the ladder spots so hopefully he can get |
29228s | the ladder finishes to qualify for |
29230s | worlds because um I thought I let a few |
29233s | people down last time uh yeah Casey |
29235s | prepped with me hopefully yeah um mey |
29239s | wfam those are the main people I |
29241s | practiced with um yeah Fury hunters in |
29244s | and around it still he didn't really |
29245s | help this time but he gave me the I |
29247s | think the best lineup for the last |
29248s | Master's tour just like five minutes |
29250s | into joining our prep group he said |
29251s | bring this it's the best and then like a |
29253s | week later I was in a master to final |
29257s | but yeah those are those are the big |
29258s | names |
29260s | um that's mostly it cool it's been great |
29264s | talking to you pocket train as it always |
29266s | is anyway but going to have to let you |
29268s | go now to go and celebrate or chill or |
29270s | go to sleep or whatever it is that |
29271s | pocket train does when he's just W |
29273s | tournament bit of everything and yeah |
29276s | enjoy your next month of chilling and |
29279s | try and bring that relaxed attitude to |
29281s | the World Championships I guess but |
29282s | great to see you and we'll see you at |
29285s | Worlds you heard it you heard it was |
29288s | there it may have been underneath Linda |
29290s | but you heard it he said he was going to |
29291s | stream absolutely yeah we will see you |
29294s | in your stream then most likely yeah |
29297s | that's the end of another Masters Tour |
29299s | the final Master's tour of 2023 sttle um |
29302s | other than the champion any any |
29303s | interesting takeaways anything you want |
29304s | to say before we go no I just I think it |
29308s | just shows the the resiliency of our |
29311s | talent pole in Hearthstone by which I |
29313s | don't mean us the the broadcast talent I |
29316s | mean the talent of the players right is |
29318s | that um this the system that we had this |
29321s | year presented a very unique set of |
29322s | challenges and we still had an |
29324s | incredibly high level of of cream rising |
29327s | to the top of when we get to these |
29329s | events the the standard that is set is |
29332s | still so incredibly high like yes you |
29336s | know people have their various |
29337s | criticisms of the grand Masters era of |
29339s | hearthstone or whatever but I think it's |
29341s | indisputable that after we went through |
29342s | a few iterations of relegation with that |
29345s | system we had an absurdly high level of |
29348s | hearthstone being played um in the |
29350s | competitive scene at that point and I |
29353s | think the greatest Testament to the |
29355s | players that we have in these |
29356s | tournaments so they are continuing to |
29358s | hold that standard set by the likes of |
29361s | Gabby and bli and yer and all the |
29363s | players that came out of that grand |
29364s | Masters system so we are putting |
29367s | together an incredibly stacked field of |
29370s | players to compete a world championships |
29372s | and they have a very illustrious group |
29375s | of names to live up to whoever is going |
29377s | to pick up that mantle of being the next |
29379s | World Champion but I am already very |
29381s | confident that we are going to have |
29383s | someone who fits right in with the like |
29386s | of firebat and lion and Bunny Hopper and |
29388s | all of these incredible players that |
29390s | we've had before that have been world |
29391s | champions so yeah um GG I love |
29394s | Hearthstone that's basically the way |
29395s | that you sign off every tournament at |
29397s | this point uh yeah it's been great yeah |
29399s | always emotional for the cast as well |
29401s | it's two great days of action that we |
29403s | get to see a little bit too rarely but |
29405s | there's so much more still to come |
29407s | because December the 16th December the |
29409s | 17th the World |
29412s | Championships uh will be played we will |
29414s | be here with that here as always |
29416s | and you know who three of the players |
29418s | are going to be but there's five more |
29419s | still to be found keep an eye on Twitter |
29422s | and twitch I guess to see who those are |
29423s | going to be we'll let you know as soon |
29425s | as we can as well but that's it that's |
29427s | the end of another Masters Tour so |
29429s | thanks to all the production to the |
29431s | players to a of ice TJ Raven and |
29433s | everybody for watching we'll see you |
29435s | next time at |
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