[2023] 2023 Hearthstone Masters Tour Spring | Day 1 | Hearthstone Dev Tracker

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949s	hello everybody and welcome to the
951s	kickoff day for the Hearthstone mattress
953s	tour spring championship this might look
955s	a little different because we're in a
957s	new year new us but really it's the same
960s	old us for Hearthstone Esports 2023 my
963s	name is TJ and kicking off the show with
965s	me today is none other than Lorinda and
967s	Edelweiss who's returning to join us now
969s	for Hearthstone again this year so
971s	Edelweiss how you doing you excited for
973s	the weekend oh I'm so excited especially
975s	if the first match we've got but you
977s	know I was a little worried going into
979s	this what the deck lists were going to
981s	look like thought we might have some
982s	really long matchups but it's looking
984s	pretty aggro and those are always
987s	fast-paced and excited
989s	yeah it should be uh it should be a fun
991s	weekend a lot more fast-paced right uh
994s	than um maybe many players were
995s	expecting but we're also joined by Neil
997s	AKA Lorinda AKA Neil Lorinda Bond long
1001s	time Cassie partner how you doing today
1003s	Neil doing good teacher I've been
1005s	looking forward to this for three months
1006s	now and I just can't wait to get into
1008s	this action it's gonna be absolutely
1009s	great
1012s	three months I'll even looking forward
1013s	to it for three months even though it's
1015s	been five months since the last uh
1017s	Hearthstone Esports event so
1020s	um Neil classic as always but we've
1023s	changed things around for 2023 just a
1026s	little bit I know many of you that are
1027s	tuning in are already familiar with the
1030s	changes that have happened and
1032s	transitioning from what we had in 2022
1034s	to 2023 but this is uh just sort of the
1036s	quick bullet points of how this year is
1038s	going to look in the Hearthstone Esports
1040s	landscape uh the year will culminate in
1042s	the world championship which will happen
1043s	at the end of the year with a prize pool
1045s	of 350 000 so still big uh we have three
1049s	seasonal championships spring summer and
1052s	fall this is the spring the first one of
1053s	the year with fifty thousand dollars
1055s	prize pool for each of those
1057s	um in each seasonal Championship we have
1059s	16 total competitors uh which consists
1062s	of the top four point earners per region
1064s	America's Europe and Asia Pacific as
1067s	well as the four highest point earners
1069s	that didn't fall uh in the other
1071s	categories and the winner of each season
1074s	of the uh uh seasonal Championship
1076s	automatically qualifies uh to compete at
1079s	the world championship along with the
1082s	three top pointers uh per region for the
1084s	year and the two sort of agnostic Point
1088s	earners uh for the year so things have
1090s	changed but things have gotten uh quite
1092s	a bit harder in terms of actually
1094s	qualifying to these events we'll dive
1096s	more into that in a few minutes but uh
1098s	advice why don't you go ahead and talk
1100s	through the format for the weekend at
1102s	Conquest
1103s	yeah so it's the conquest format as
1105s	usual each player is going to bring four
1108s	decks four unique classes that includes
1111s	DK even though DK has a lot going on
1113s	with its roon system you can still only
1115s	bring one deck per uh
1119s	or class so no matter what kind of Death
1121s	Knight you're bringing
1123s	just the one each player bans one of
1125s	their opponent's decks and you can't win
1127s	with the same deck twice so as soon as
1129s	you get a win with the deck you move on
1131s	and of course best of five matches just
1133s	to make sure you know get uh
1136s	get to see the full breath
1139s	yeah if you've tuned into any
1141s	Hearthstone Esports broadcast over the
1142s	past I don't know how many years you're
1144s	probably familiar with uh the conquest
1145s	system and fun little anecdote I
1148s	remember when uh we were first getting
1149s	previews of of uh death knight as a
1152s	class uh they were talking about players
1154s	being able to submit one death knight uh
1157s	or a death knight for each Rune set that
1160s	you had so it we could have been in a
1163s	world where a conquest lineup would have
1164s	consisted of a blood DK and Unholy DK
1167s	and a frost DK uh if what about the
1170s	death Knights yeah yeah that was the
1173s	banned one that was the band One and
1175s	it's funny because right now that could
1177s	be a possibility with all the dks being
1180s	relatively viable we're seeing both
1183s	blood and frost uh in this uh in this
1185s	event so let's go ahead and go through
1187s	the groups uh Neil um for group a and
1191s	Group B any players that particularly
1192s	stand out to you yeah um all of the a
1195s	lot of the players have made this
1196s	tournament really exciting this time and
1198s	by streaming their sort of
1200s	is one of those and Casey surrender
1203s	gamer RBG Levick have been hanging out
1205s	in chats as has Saudi
1207s	um so not supporting places they've all
1209s	this sort of In It Together attitude so
1212s	reckon's been streaming but people like
1213s	Levick have been hanging out say why are
1214s	you playing that card why are you doing
1215s	this they're all they've all been sort
1217s	of
1217s	poking each other just a little bit to
1219s	sort of keep each other active because
1221s	it's going to be a long grind this
1222s	season only these points is a long grind
1224s	and they're they're looking after each
1225s	other whilst competing against each
1227s	other just making sure they're all still
1228s	hanging in there because getting these
1231s	points is hard work but Requiem in
1232s	particular off these two pages at least
1234s	has been streaming his own grinds a lot
1237s	of the time and it's a perspective we
1239s	haven't had much before right where we
1240s	get to see the players
1243s	um earning their qualifications
1247s	yeah and not to say they haven't earned
1250s	them in the past but it did feel like
1252s	much more of a grind uh this time around
1254s	than than previously right you have to
1256s	play pretty consistently in order to
1259s	keep those those top ladder spots and
1261s	you can't just win a single qualifier to
1262s	move on to the next step uh that kind of
1265s	thing but moving over to group C uh and
1267s	uh Group D edifice any players here that
1270s	you're particularly excited to watch uh
1272s	throughout the weekend or do you think
1273s	that might have a good chance at
1274s	standout
1276s	well mcbander face is of course uh you
1278s	know good friend of the the show podcast
1280s	I'm on coin concede but uh besides him
1284s	tansoku I think is just a delightful
1286s	player always you know happy-go-lucky
1289s	smiling keeping things light-hearted uh
1291s	so those are kind of the two I've got my
1293s	eyes on
1297s	um outside of uh killing all day who's
1299s	not really an active player uh tonsoku
1302s	is my absolute favorite player to watch
1304s	uh camera
1307s	I'm not gonna okay I'll tell the story
1309s	quickly uh back in like when we used to
1311s	have seasonal championships back in the
1312s	day where it was a long road to to
1315s	qualify on tonsoku made it
1317s	um apparently he was a big fan of me
1319s	which I I wasn't used to because let's
1321s	let's be honest like nobody's a big fan
1323s	of me
1325s	um and uh so we uh through a translator
1328s	again Neil is yeah thanks Neil's my my
1330s	number one outside
1333s	Edelweiss okay Edelweiss my number one
1335s	fan sorry Neil you're getting bumped
1336s	down to number two and tonsoku's number
1338s	three but uh he actually asked me to
1339s	sign the back of his phone
1341s	um and I told him that if he ever won a
1343s	World Championship that he could sign
1345s	the back of my phone
1347s	um and because that's what I wanted to
1348s	do first because I was like hey you're
1350s	more famous than me come on let's be
1352s	real uh and he still has it uh or still
1356s	has maybe not the phone but he still
1358s	talks about it a lot and it just warms
1360s	my heart uh and uh so I will forever be
1364s	a massive fan of of tonsoku
1368s	um
1369s	hopefully we'll get to see some of
1371s	tansoku's gameplay later on but for now
1373s	we have our first matchup in surrender
1375s	and Casey and we see surrender over here
1378s	on camera right now
1380s	a little late over there over in Apec so
1383s	I think maybe caffeinating up
1387s	for the event ahead yeah got some tea
1391s	um with a global event like this it's
1392s	hard to you know find the middle ground
1394s	for time zones for everybody uh when
1396s	they all um are have to play together
1399s	and against one another so there's
1401s	always going to be one region that sort
1403s	of gets left out a little bit but it
1404s	looks like surrender is going to be
1405s	coming up a miracle Rogue first and you
1409s	know this is quite a bit different than
1410s	uh maybe Miracle Rogues that we've seen
1413s	in the past at least in terms of like uh
1416s	payoffs right there's uh not quite as
1418s	many like Miracle turn payoffs outside
1421s	of simstone graveyard like no no Draka
1424s	for instance but it does have a little
1425s	bit more meat than what we're used to
1427s	seeing in these rope decks yeah I mean
1429s	Miracle vote just won't die will it uh
1431s	Casey on day one put together a miracle
1433s	Rogue decks and I'll probably end up
1435s	playing this if I qualify and I think he
1437s	bought the exact same 30 that he put
1439s	together on day one
1441s	um looks like cylinder is going to go
1442s	with that deck as well it's still the
1445s	same deck it still has crazy term threes
1447s	in total crazy turn fours with the Bose
1449s	bike with the preparation with the zero
1451s	amount of conch auctions with the
1452s	graveyard you can still make a nine nine
1454s	or a 10 10 on turn three don't let TJ
1457s	trick you into thinking it's changed um
1459s	you're right though it's got your show
1461s	in there for a little bit more sustained
1462s	it's got the clever tone it's a bit more
1463s	sustained but it's the same thing it's
1466s	just in a bit of a disguise
1469s	yeah
1471s	Casey over here with the Agro death
1474s	knight Frost of course Frost rooms Fury
1477s	is the reason to play uh triple Rune in
1480s	in DK as well as mirror manipulator but
1483s	in terms of newer cards to this deck a
1486s	Rowdy fan has replaced construct
1489s	quarters since the Nerf and then posic
1491s	has been a pretty solid uh new addition
1494s	just in terms of an aggressive on curve
1496s	card that makes it very awkward for the
1498s	opponent to actually keep you from
1500s	pushing damage if they have to either
1502s	play the three threes or deal with the
1505s	death rattle
1506s	yeah specifically coming down on curve
1509s	um you know five attack plus kind of not
1512s	forcing your opponent to deviate from
1514s	their game plan to get those three
1515s	threes down but if they don't then kind
1518s	of ignoring it and hope that they make
1519s	trades then you got to deal with the
1520s	three three so uh I was in the camp of
1524s	not really expecting posic to be played
1526s	uh too much but
1528s	um happy to see it's in there because
1529s	it's definitely a pretty unique
1531s	legendary
1532s	um but uh that's it for uh sort of the
1535s	intros and that means uh my job is uh
1538s	it's pretty much complete for this
1540s	series so I'm gonna pass it over to Neil
1542s	and Edelweiss to start getting into the
1544s	matches excellent okay A bit more space
1546s	around here now that's better oh yeah
1548s	it's gonna be squashed in there wasn't
1550s	it
1551s	um but yeah so Casey has brought just
1553s	for lineup completeness sake he's got
1555s	the frost DK He's Got The Relic Demon
1557s	Hunter he's got the Rogue he's got the
1559s	shadow priest
1560s	um surrender has got the Druid which I
1562s	think we'll talk about in a moment his
1564s	own Miracle Rogue the frost DK and he
1566s	has got the outcast Demon Hunter which
1569s	is weird because in certain parts of the
1570s	ladder that deck doesn't exist on other
1572s	parts of ladder it is everywhere
1575s	um but for me I devised the whole
1576s	tournament lineup building was all about
1579s	Druid and what you want to do with Druid
1582s	does that make sense
1584s	yeah I I kind of get that to some extent
1586s	there was a bit of a song and dance in
1589s	terms of what death knight to bring in
1592s	terms of blood or not and then sort of
1593s	from there if people were expecting
1595s	blood DK then you'd want something like
1598s	a Tony Druid to counter it so lots of
1601s	Mind Games going into the lineup
1604s	building for uh for this weekend yeah I
1608s	feel what happened is
1610s	um it got to the point where people
1613s	realized that Druid you don't usually
1615s	want to Target the best deck and try and
1617s	beat it four times that's just too hard
1619s	Druid was going to be the third or
1621s	fourth best deck and everybody's lineup
1622s	but you could just Target it
1625s	um absolutely like crazy and I think
1628s	people started realizing well rather
1629s	than being the third or fourth best deck
1631s	uh Casey's not got the drilled by the
1633s	way that he's a graphics ever rather
1635s	bring the third or fourth best deck
1637s	then and and it lose four times or three
1641s	times your opponent's aggro bring the
1644s	fifth or the sixth best deck something
1645s	as it happens that's going to be
1647s	aggressive whether it's Mage whether
1648s	it's Shadow piece whether it's Paladin
1650s	it'll beat your opponent's Druids as
1651s	well and it's not that much worse so
1654s	what we're seeing although surrender is
1656s	playing Druid in this first match is a
1658s	lack of Druids even though I think for
1660s	latter purposes it's still a really good
1662s	deck
1663s	and in terms of the Druid surrenders is
1666s	actually built a little bit differently
1668s	from many of the others that we're
1670s	seeing I think surrender is the only one
1672s	not to have included uh Tony pirate king
1674s	in his list and so it's less about
1677s	trying to set up a swap Dex and blow up
1680s	your opponents and more just about
1682s	gaining armor and leveraging the hero
1685s	power upgrades
1686s	I'm waiting for um for people in chat to
1688s	say what's in the ETC should we tell
1690s	them what should we just yes because
1692s	nobody ever knows what's in the ETC
1694s	anywhere let's face it
1696s	uh but he has brought a Jailer a crazed
1698s	Alchemist and a commoner but don't tell
1700s	anybody that we told you that all right
1704s	yeah yeah what's in the UTC chat we
1706s	don't know sorry
1708s	I hope we get to see it later there have
1710s	been some clever inclusions in Etc in
1713s	particular a single Rogue necklace that
1715s	runs Etc which is maybe questionable but
1717s	I think they went about it in a very
1720s	interesting way
1722s	in terms of this story though seems to
1724s	have taken account that there would be a
1726s	lot of aggro and so that's why it is
1728s	centered much more on just gaining armor
1732s	and then setting up you know big swing
1734s	turn with something like zoc fog snout
1737s	to win the board
1739s	yeah and it's sort of hedging his bets
1741s	right he's still managing to bring this
1743s	engine this powerful powerful Druid
1745s	engine that can keep the board clear can
1747s	stop yourself from dying pretty well
1751s	um but yeah eventually you will get
1752s	overwhelmed by those aggro decks if you
1753s	don't do something else and yeah he's
1755s	trying to find that middle ground will
1757s	be interesting to see how it goes
1759s	um but surrender
1761s	some people might not know who surrender
1763s	is he's been he's just one of the best
1765s	Hearthstone players of all time
1767s	um but did did sort of step back a year
1770s	or so ago and and
1772s	we're surprised to see him back on
1773s	ladder grinding away and it's it's
1775s	amused me because pocket train posts a
1777s	tier list of who he thought would do
1779s	well credit to him for that by the way
1780s	it's nice to have a little bit of player
1783s	insight into how they think the other
1784s	players are doing but he poses into
1786s	quite low tier in that list uh because
1788s	surrender might be out of practice
1789s	listen pocket train surrender doesn't
1791s	need practice surrender's amazing and
1794s	he's got enough points to get here so
1795s	he's plenty practice enough I think
1798s	yeah absolutely I was a big surrender
1800s	fan a few years ago uh and you know to
1803s	some extent still today just as you say
1805s	haven't seen him in a while uh but Casey
1807s	of course
1808s	very Innovative Deck Builder and I think
1811s	I find myself picking up Casey decks
1814s	very regularly you know shortly after
1816s	the expansion came out it was his Relic
1819s	Demon Hunter that I you know used to to
1822s	practice and I think he's brought that
1824s	same list card for card today yeah when
1827s	we went through the debt list yesterday
1828s	sort of with the casters subtle just
1830s	went oh Casey's just brought day one
1832s	decks it's just the decks he made up
1834s	because he sees it so clearly he just
1836s	gets it right perfect 30 immediately
1838s	um but I'm be told I think we're gonna
1839s	go for a short break just while we get
1841s	into that game properly uh we're back in
1843s	just a moment with the start of Masters
1846s	Tour 2023
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2383s	hello everybody thank you for hanging on
2385s	in there we are obviously as day ones
2388s	often do having some technical
2389s	difficulties but we are working on them
2390s	and expecting to get game two pretty
2393s	soon because game one has finished a
2395s	device
2397s	yeah matchup of Frosty K versus Miracle
2399s	Rogue which I think both you and I were
2401s	a little surprised to see the frost DK
2403s	not banned that is fairly favored
2405s	matchup for the frost they get on board
2406s	quite early and snowball into you know
2410s	freeze and damage and you know Rogue
2412s	being focused on making a pretty large
2414s	ghost and not having too many minions in
2417s	play is quite vulnerable to things like
2420s	might have metaphil or later on
2421s	certainly frostworms Fury so
2424s	more information on those bands shortly
2428s	unfortunately that we didn't get to see
2430s	that one but uh we will be jumping into
2432s	game two
2435s	yeah I'm looking forward to seeing what
2437s	that is so Casey the rest of his lineup
2439s	um will be the Relic DH there will be
2442s	the Rogue and there is the shadow priest
2445s	which again we talked about those
2447s	um those fourth decks that's Casey's
2449s	fourth deck
2451s	um whereas surrender just brought the
2452s	four best decks doesn't need a fourth
2454s	deck went with the Druid of a tech we
2456s	talked about earlier
2459s	um do you like those decks what let's
2461s	talk about the shadow priest that's the
2462s	the contentious one how are you with
2464s	Shadow priests I know you're not allowed
2465s	to say things too bad about it because
2466s	your friends play this deck
2469s	well I was
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2491s	earlier
2494s	oh sorry yeah I imagine I don't know for
2498s	sure but I'm going to assume for now
2500s	until I hear differently that um
2503s	the Demon Hunter is Casey and the Druid
2506s	is surrender yes uh Casey has not
2509s	brought Druid so I think that would be a
2511s	fairly safe assumption we just have a
2513s	little bit of a swap sides here in terms
2515s	of the uh
2518s	visibility uh so surrender is in fact on
2522s	the Druid with this armor Focus
2525s	and then Casey is on the The Relic DH
2528s	yeah and this is um interesting because
2531s	when you first play this you assume that
2532s	it's just massively favored for the um
2535s	the Demon Hunter why wouldn't it be is
2537s	it Druid it doesn't do anything for the
2539s	first six terms of the game or five
2541s	terms of the game and you're sitting
2542s	there relicing around and making a board
2544s	but actually it transpires that you
2547s	don't really make much of a board in the
2550s	first three or four terms very easily
2552s	and then the Druid when it plays the
2553s	flower child is just ready to go from
2555s	turn five or turn sticks onwards
2558s	yeah the ramp uh when you're on coin of
2561s	Widow Bloom seedsman into turn five for
2563s	either a finale of Summer flower child
2565s	or you know a nourish ramp as well just
2569s	lines up super perfectly and so I think
2571s	surrender is quite happy to see that
2573s	curve Landing his way so he can really
2575s	escalate that game plan and start being
2577s	able to weave in those extra Armor Hero
2579s	Powers every turn
2581s	yeah Casey just hasn't been able to
2582s	insert any damage at all he hasn't got
2584s	anything to do next turn either Till The
2586s	Relic comes up means the zymox won't be
2588s	very powerful and zymox really needs to
2591s	be sort of your win turn if you're
2593s	playing zymox you have to end the game
2595s	there because you are losing otherwise
2597s	surrender of course doesn't have the the
2600s	Tony set up so it's not totally terminal
2602s	but yeah Casey is in trouble here
2605s	well in something that can be strange
2607s	even with the Tony is that quite
2609s	frequently The Relic DH just draws their
2612s	entire deck so you don't even really
2614s	want to swap with them unless you can do
2617s	it quite quickly I think what's going to
2619s	end up being sort of most important is
2621s	that surrender's only got one mishmash
2623s	Mosher so if Casey is able to set up
2627s	sort of sequential uh big
2630s	green men if anyone remembers the Jade
2633s	days I remember them well with the relic
2636s	of phantasms
2638s	then there may just be a board that
2641s	surrender is not able to clear since
2643s	there's only access to one of that combo
2645s	clear of mishmash masher and then
2648s	attorney at law to give it immune
2652s	yeah and he's not going to kill Casey
2655s	particularly quickly but again he's
2657s	actually got the board at the moment
2659s	which is not where Casey needs to be
2661s	surrender
2663s	tough term because his Mana doesn't get
2665s	spent sensibly here so just going to put
2667s	more
2668s	more attack on board and obviously get
2670s	that extra manner this seems reasonable
2671s	to me and just just do something proper
2673s	next to him this is kind of a pass
2675s	almost
2677s	like Casey does have a very powerful
2681s	turn here with the Relic Vault relic of
2683s	Dimensions I think if possible that's
2684s	always what you're looking to do on turn
2686s	six so even there though there's a
2688s	couple of minions in play here just
2690s	gonna throw that out get those discounts
2692s	not the cards you want discounted though
2695s	all of these are just very inexpensive
2698s	cards that generate additional value
2701s	yeah and it's again still nothing on the
2704s	board for Casey and getting close and
2707s	close to just being locked out by the
2709s	Jailer at some point
2710s	um
2711s	you need to be to stop it from happening
2713s	you need to be threatening lethal the
2715s	turn after or the Druid needs to be not
2717s	damaging you but the Druid is damaging
2719s	Casey it's a really weird game surrender
2721s	is just putting Minions on the board I'm
2724s	just waiting that's what the Druid does
2725s	in case you can't challenge he's got
2727s	nothing
2728s	yeah and surrender one minion away a
2731s	very important minion a nubricant around
2733s	being able to go for a massive board
2736s	swing combo which is nubricon into both
2739s	under Kings followed by zoc fog snout
2742s	that leads to some you know 20 plus
2744s	toughness taunts uh you don't
2747s	necessarily get the power very high
2749s	unless you have something like these
2750s	groovy cats which is perhaps why a
2753s	surrender is you know
2755s	thinking of longer here on whether to
2757s	pick one of those up or not the flower
2759s	child of course could draw the anubricon
2762s	but would lead to some hand space issues
2764s	as well
2765s	does have the crazed Alchemist in his
2767s	etc for a quick kill if he does get to
2770s	that point where he just needs a 20
2771s	attack minion instead of a 20 Health one
2775s	um again he's got to get there he's got
2776s	to get the ETC all that's going to
2777s	happen but yeah
2778s	and this is very clever even though the
2781s	ramp isn't doing a ton in the sense that
2786s	you know just pushing up to 10 since you
2788s	get the two
2789s	uh filled Mana crystals able to get that
2793s	finale on the second summer flower child
2795s	and they reduced an ubercon so I think
2797s	just enough armor here to be able to go
2799s	for that aforementioned combo maybe even
2802s	throw a rake in there just so they have
2803s	some power on those taunts
2807s	yeah that makes some sense
2812s	Casey in the counting his outs stage of
2816s	the game right now I think
2818s	yeah could go for a very interesting
2821s	photographer fizzle here it would just
2823s	be an insane amount of free cards if if
2826s	you wanted you have to pick up that
2828s	photograph later but in terms of a
2831s	ladies atheno pop-off turn none of this
2834s	really costs any Mana
2840s	oh buddy he's you know it's tough and he
2844s	hates it when we talk about this but
2845s	when Casey is using nearly all of his
2847s	time you know a turn is difficult
2850s	because he does tend to play very
2853s	instinctively and very quickly and it's
2855s	always worked out for him because he
2856s	sees the the right lines nearly
2858s	instantly nearly always but yeah he had
2861s	to fiddle around his turn to get things
2862s	to look how he wanted them to look at
2864s	this is what he's up with and I think
2866s	the most important bit there was just
2867s	getting you know four minions in play
2869s	with the expectation that they'll die
2871s	and Infuse artificial zymox so that can
2874s	come down on curve maybe do a little bit
2876s	of clearing set up another round of big
2878s	minions draw a couple discounted cards
2880s	and uh you know just work his way
2882s	through the deck even more
2885s	please remove that armor as well in the
2887s	process of that clear which I think was
2888s	a big part of what he was trying to do
2890s	to buy himself another turn yep
2893s	yeah you always want to remove armor if
2896s	you can from the Druid just so they
2897s	can't do stuff like this but
2900s	in this particular case not quite enough
2903s	to keep it from happening
2905s	yeah
2908s	likes to
2910s	that signature zoc bog snout coming down
2913s	may not be a lot of power just the
2915s	fourth power but 24 taunt is a lot of
2919s	stats
2920s	foreign
2924s	spell damage isn't sticking around
2926s	something I found can work here and I've
2929s	done it like three times ever so it can
2931s	work is the operative phrase discover
2933s	yourself a sinful brand
2940s	you need more to go with it obviously
2943s	you need um
2944s	plenty of ways to damage it as well but
2946s	yeah that's that's the way to get
2948s	through
2949s	to be honest I've forgotten the sinful
2951s	brand to stay as a permanent debuff or
2953s	is it just this one turn
2955s	um permanent simple gun just stays there
2957s	so you can kill your opponent with it
2959s	over a few turns
2961s	well we'll see what oh Casey's snap
2964s	picked the uh relic of Extinction which
2967s	is another way that you can deal with
2969s	something like this
2970s	um
2972s	imagine we're going to be doing the
2973s	immolation or a first
2978s	oh yeah
2980s	yeah the ordering in these spots is so
2984s	complex I mean it's if you've got five
2985s	minutes and um you know a pen and paper
2987s	it's easy but when you're trying to work
2989s	it out on the Fly and it's ever changing
2990s	with the cards you're picking up on as
2992s	you go it is really complicated a lot of
2995s	the time and I like the way the case is
2997s	doing this knowing that yes you know you
3000s	could save all this stuff for a big
3002s	damage turn but seeing the size of these
3004s	minions in play A2 just needs to remove
3006s	as much as possible and even though the
3009s	druid's capable of gaining a lot of
3010s	armor like I mentioned earlier there's
3012s	only that one mesh mesh martial attorney
3015s	at mall clear so opting instead to go
3018s	for the large phantasms route which can
3022s	get there just as well
3024s	so that there is that Alchemist in the
3027s	ETC but only 17 damage available Casey
3029s	was very aware there to make sure he got
3031s	those Health totals on these things down
3033s	not equally but enough that he wasn't
3035s	going to die to them
3036s	right
3038s	yeah those who may not recall the card
3041s	in ETC were referring to switches the
3044s	power and toughness
3046s	so if you've got something like a 426
3048s	taunt doesn't matter it's power you just
3050s	flick the numbers and uh get that big
3053s	hit in of the 26 damage
3058s	yeah
3060s	and of course now with the uh the aslo
3062s	ready to do 14 from hand as well Casey
3065s	really up against it
3068s	yeah no longer able to double the ass
3070s	lore now that brand bronzebeard has
3072s	rotated but uh it's still quite a good
3075s	finisher and not much of a sacrifice to
3077s	include in something like a rant druid
3081s	okay so this is um
3084s	depends where these hits
3086s	go
3088s	they're good ones they're very good hits
3092s	thank you pretty happy with that
3096s	[Music]
3098s	oh my
3102s	okay she's got through this
3106s	removing those large Health minions uh
3109s	able to take care of the threat of that
3112s	crazed Alchemist
3114s	but uh Ashley Laura not much use into
3117s	this many stats
3119s	yeah interesting I was trying to work
3121s	out how much the Aston would have to
3122s	have gone face there because it wasn't
3124s	much use but you know it might have been
3125s	five or six it needed to go depending
3127s	how amped up the the hero powers
3131s	but yeah he's got the clear so happy to
3133s	just push another wave of attacks into
3135s	the face
3136s	I love watching this girl to be honest
3139s	when this card was revealed the
3140s	mishmasher I thought it just got one
3143s	additional attack I did not realize that
3145s	it keeps attacking until it goes down or
3147s	the entire opposing board goes down so
3150s	being able to give an immune with
3151s	attorney at Ma is just a clear and
3154s	that's going to be good enough Casey is
3155s	out of removal tools
3159s	yes sir Linda just Tempo that he just
3162s	got stuff on the board and stuck there
3163s	this is um something I've learned a lot
3165s	about the The Relic deck is just hang in
3169s	there and get Tempo but yeah surrender
3171s	did not let that happen
3173s	usually I think as the Demon Hunter
3176s	you're wanting to be the one sort of
3177s	getting on board early going you know
3179s	double phantasms just to get some things
3182s	in play Infuse up that zymax but uh even
3188s	with the early location Casey just
3190s	honestly didn't hit the right discounts
3192s	on the relic of Dimensions turn and it's
3195s	pretty tough when you're not able to
3197s	take advantage of those discounts
3199s	so just looking at the bands at the
3202s	bottom it doesn't quite time what we
3204s	were told but we'll we'll roll with it
3206s	for now we heard the decayed one but
3207s	maybe they were counting the band we
3209s	will see what happens when we get into
3210s	game number three
3212s	um but those are the lineups the very
3215s	very different lineups even though
3216s	surrenders bought again the the base
3219s	four decks that we were kind of
3220s	expecting
3222s	um a lot more
3223s	work has been done and Casey bringing
3226s	the Ford X he just thought were good on
3228s	day one of the expansion and we believe
3230s	it is one game all of them
3233s	yep Casey you know with this Demon
3238s	Hunter we made it right out the gates I
3240s	think where there's pretty even split in
3241s	terms of the players between Relic Demon
3243s	Hunter and Outcast Demon Hunter uh
3246s	Outcast I think has seen a Resurgence
3248s	since blood has sort of faded from the
3251s	Forefront only two players have brought
3253s	a blood DK to this event so I think
3256s	that's allowed stuff like the outcast
3258s	Demon Hunter and the undead priest to
3260s	flourish a little more and also you know
3262s	when it comes to a conquest format you
3263s	can always ban a blood DK yeah and I I
3267s	did it sort of I always do a match-up
3268s	grid if I have the time to do one and I
3271s	made Casey a slight favorite depending
3273s	on bands and I felt that surrender's
3277s	chance lay in could he get the Relic
3280s	Demon Hunter against his Druid well
3282s	that's step one done and the other one
3284s	is is how is he going to get his outcast
3286s	out of there
3287s	unless he cues it into Casey's uh Shadow
3290s	priest
3291s	but by doing the first part of that
3293s	equation by keeping things in the game
3295s	for longer that piece now might get um
3298s	end up getting a shot at that um so the
3301s	outcasts might get a shot at the priest
3302s	that gives surrender a very good chance
3304s	now but it does look like we're into
3305s	game three and it is going to be the
3308s	miracle Rogue versus The Relic DK
3311s	DH the dead d h k they're kind of the
3315s	same
3316s	they're both new classes they're both
3318s	the two letter abbreviations starting
3320s	with d e you know
3324s	have you played much of this matchup
3325s	yourself
3326s	I've played a lot of um the Demon Hunter
3329s	deck but nobody on ladder can be
3332s	bothered to play Rogue anymore so I
3334s	haven't played the matchup much
3336s	um I I found it tough from the Demon
3339s	Hunter side but the stats say that I'm
3341s	just bad
3342s	um I apparently the Vogue is slight
3343s	Underdog here
3345s	yeah I think that since both decks at
3348s	this point take a little bit of time to
3350s	get rolling
3352s	the Stephen Hunter just has a little bit
3355s	of advantage in terms of the clears I
3357s	think the loss of
3359s	uh gosh I'm blanking on the name I
3362s	believe it's a mailbox dancer which
3363s	provided this coin that created some
3365s	much larger ghosts some much larger
3368s	Draco weapons and without that
3371s	everything's just like a little bit
3372s	smaller so
3375s	I think the death
3378s	sorry not death Demon Hunter is just
3380s	able to clear uh much easier than it
3383s	used to be
3385s	is an inclusion that I haven't been
3389s	seeing on the latter list but it's in a
3391s	lot of our competitors lists this
3392s	weekend
3393s	[Music]
3394s	yes uh we need to see how that works out
3397s	as well
3398s	um ladder's been really really weird um
3401s	it's just totally different per every
3405s	two thousand or three thousand
3406s	legendaries I don't know what it's like
3407s	further down but
3409s	there's like boundaries across and
3410s	suddenly the whole game is like playing
3412s	an entirely different expansion it's
3414s	incredibly weird
3415s	um but yeah this is this is the key to
3417s	this the Rogue you talk about those
3418s	removal options Casey's taking advantage
3420s	of that the road doesn't quite have the
3422s	way to
3423s	remove a lot of things and make its own
3426s	board it does have the opportunity to do
3427s	that and we will see them do that don't
3429s	get me wrong but the Demon Hunter can
3432s	just keep making this board after board
3434s	and that's what Casey's going to teach
3435s	us how to do properly right now
3438s	yeah and a tough hand for a surrender
3441s	here usually in the early game you're
3443s	looking for things like potion belt so
3445s	you can try and pick up that sweet sweet
3447s	three Mana Sprint or a zero Mana if you
3450s	played an unstable ghoul and instead
3453s	it's just you know a couple of
3454s	scribbling stenographers which which
3456s	need that draw need those cheap cards to
3458s	get into play so might just have to
3462s	yeah play the step on this cult neophyte
3464s	slow things down a bit to be able to get
3466s	azshara in play
3469s	uh
3471s	I'd miss cult near fight I'm glad it's
3473s	back there's a lot of evoke cards that
3474s	make me very
3476s	um squirmy that I don't really
3478s	necessarily like facing like when they
3479s	bounce all my stuff back into my deck
3481s	and I can't play my things but near
3482s	fight seems fair it's a fair form of
3485s	um annoyance it's gonna it's gonna slow
3487s	you down he's gonna it's gonna get on
3489s	your nerves but it's not ruining your
3491s	entire day unless they play incredibly
3493s	well
3495s	a double near fight is tough but even so
3498s	immolation Aura plus predation able to
3501s	clear it up
3502s	so that was kind of the the big push for
3505s	surrender he had to go all in uh with
3508s	not much
3509s	available resources here is that potion
3512s	belt and no draw two on the first pitch
3515s	I know George you're on the second pick
3519s	that's just gonna is brutal
3522s	just needs a really slimy board to hang
3524s	in there
3528s	no
3529s	that doesn't do it
3533s	and yeah Casey's trying not to smile I
3535s	think at this point this is um he knows
3538s	that's the whip he knows that
3539s	surrender's out and now he just gets to
3541s	go as much stuff as he wants to put on
3544s	the board right now oh my goodness do
3546s	that a photograph just filled with
3548s	relics I mean you can see there's
3550s	double Extinction in there
3556s	yeah
3557s	it doesn't need to it doesn't hurt okay
3562s	I mean the 3-3 is quite yeah the biggest
3564s	thing he can put on the board anyway I
3565s	guess so that makes sense
3568s	I think the main thing was to shuffle in
3571s	more extinctions because occasionally
3573s	you know you do have to deal with large
3575s	minions from the Rogue but
3577s	um
3579s	yeah I think we're just making space to
3581s	to draw cards off dimensions in case he
3583s	realizes he's got a lot of luxury here
3585s	so what is next turn he knows that a
3587s	shower is one of the big outs do you
3589s	want to just um zymox and make some
3590s	stuff next turn or do you want to go
3592s	down the route of drawing a million cars
3594s	with the relics
3596s	so I don't believe that the zymox is
3598s	infused at this time I don't know yeah I
3602s	would expect something like extinctions
3605s	into Dimensions I get some heavily
3608s	discounted cards
3609s	[Music]
3612s	yeah here we go
3614s	[Music]
3618s	and it's a little more freedom to do
3620s	something like this knowing that there's
3621s	a snapshot with more extinctions still
3623s	in the deck got it that makes sense yeah
3629s	he's got infinite Healthcare he's got
3631s	infinite removal he's got infinite
3633s	minions
3636s	but Rogue is still Rogue and those 17
3639s	cards in the deck can just become 17
3641s	cards in the hand so rapidly
3643s	find something like this Horn of
3645s	ancients it does pick up krabator are
3648s	not necessarily one of the larger
3651s	threats but still quite solid as a one
3654s	Mana you know
3656s	surprisingly azshara you know doesn't
3658s	make the cut usually when you're bigger
3660s	than four set but uh getting a one Mana
3663s	colossal you know that's another cheap
3664s	thing to play really upgrade these
3666s	ghosts
3668s	it's unfortunate there's nothing for
3670s	that audio
3672s	uh oh I forget audio Mech we'll just
3675s	call it it's a copy in the hand the one
3677s	thing I will never bail you out on is
3680s	card names you're on your own uh you
3683s	know it's it's the thing that does the
3685s	other thing exactly yeah that's how I
3688s	talk that's it you're learning
3689s	yeah you are if you ever struggle with a
3692s	card name don't go hey Lorinda was a
3694s	card name because I would just make it
3695s	worse
3697s	things get really bad really really
3699s	quick in those situations Trust
3701s	and quite a few discounted cards here
3704s	the Rowdy fan could be quite notable if
3706s	a lady safino comes up later
3709s	but yeah I mean the spell damage plus
3711s	the unleash Fells just gonna clear up
3713s	this next big push from surrender and
3715s	once again not much going on in terms of
3718s	refill
3720s	yo I want to take a moment to say how
3722s	good Casey is a house I got the the
3724s	surrender how good he is in early
3727s	um so most of these players are playing
3730s	around 800 Hearthstone games a month
3734s	um Casey's keeping up with him on points
3736s	by playing around 400.
3740s	uh his win rate is always like one or
3743s	two percent above even the other top
3744s	players
3745s	um when they sort of compare on streams
3747s	and things and talk about it and that
3750s	doesn't sound a lot but that's the
3751s	difference we say yeah relatively like a
3753s	56 win rate or 54. it's a huge
3756s	difference so
3758s	um as much as I was saying how great
3759s	surrender was earlier Casey
3762s	a chance to see case in the world
3763s	championships once again would be a
3765s	fantastic thing to see
3767s	yeah and I want to note here that Casey
3769s	you know did something that may be
3770s	surprising to some people out there
3772s	using the zero Mana Rowdy fan just for a
3775s	little bit of clear there I think that's
3777s	an acknowledgment that he doesn't need
3779s	it to win this game ultimately you know
3781s	just using those Rush minions there to
3784s	clear and draw a little bit more
3786s	you don't need the Rowdy fan lady safino
3789s	all the time just making full use of the
3794s	cards available to him making hand space
3796s	to be able to do something like play
3797s	zymox on this turn and uh just reload
3801s	again and this is probably going to be
3803s	it for surrender here yeah and um I'm
3806s	going to be in trouble that you spotted
3808s	that and not me um Casey regularly comes
3810s	to my stream and tells me it's a Tempo
3812s	game make Tempo one five pig is a Tempo
3815s	card play it on the board and hit your
3816s	punch minions with it if it's Tempo and
3819s	the fact that I didn't pick that up and
3820s	you did
3822s	he's gonna tell me off you got me in
3824s	trouble
3825s	I'm sure you had it right I just sort of
3828s	came in oh yeah yeah all along
3833s	what Casey picking up that win with his
3835s	uh I don't know if we'll call it a
3837s	signature deck to me it sort of feels
3838s	like uh this was the main one that he
3841s	put out there as soon as the expansion
3843s	launched hasn't changed the card just
3845s	perfect 30. uh well done and yeah we'll
3849s	see if surrender is able to turn things
3851s	around just one more win for Casey to be
3854s	able to take
3855s	his way on over into the winners Brack
3858s	yeah and that is likely um what we've
3860s	seen going to be that shadow priest and
3862s	again we've talked about fourth decks
3864s	quite a bit uh it will be that shadow
3865s	priest
3867s	and it will have a good matchup along
3869s	the way because we we talked about how
3872s	that was kind of close although favored
3874s	for the Demon Hunter the priest just put
3877s	so much stuff on the board the Rogue
3879s	doesn't necessarily get to answer it the
3881s	priest is damaging you and if it does
3882s	enough damage it will just kill you even
3884s	if you do clear it up that's what the
3886s	all those death battles add up to that's
3888s	what doing five damage from your hand
3889s	adds up to the Rogue has to be on its
3892s	toes right from turn one if it's going
3894s	to win that match up
3895s	um the other one is the outcast DH we'll
3897s	probably see surrender queue that first
3899s	players tend to queue there
3901s	they're better matchups first in these
3903s	situations get more air time settle
3905s	themselves down try and pressure the
3906s	opponent I've never seen any of that
3908s	matter but that's how it goes and in
3911s	that one the the outcast DH is quite a
3913s	big favorite I believe
3916s	yeah I find it it really depends on the
3918s	player whether they feel like they want
3920s	to hit the easy match out of the way
3921s	first or the harder match some of them
3923s	are just like well I'm gonna have to do
3925s	this one eventually may as well get it
3927s	out of the way now in terms of the hard
3929s	matchup and others as you say try and
3931s	you know relax do the favorite one first
3934s	and and settle back in calm down the
3936s	nerves
3938s	yeah who's to say which is better I
3940s	think whichever is better is whichever
3942s	works best for your own mentors oh
3944s	definitely yeah there's absolutely no
3946s	mathematical reason to care
3948s	um I'm I'm in favor of players getting
3950s	themselves some air time uh but
3952s	surrender and Casey
3953s	not sure they need airtime I think we
3955s	all know who they are by now yeah if
3957s	it's me I'm getting the air time but
3959s	then I'm going to lose the favorable
3960s	anyway so it doesn't matter so
3962s	[Music]
3964s	yeah I'm excited to see the outcast DH
3967s	though Luna recently hit rank one I
3971s	believe America's with Outcast Demon
3973s	Hunter which is something that
3975s	I think we didn't expect with all the
3977s	blood that was running around earlier
3979s	but as it's sort of seeded into the
3981s	background Outcast Demon Hunter has
3982s	really picked back up
3984s	The Sweet Spot better that we haven't
3986s	had for some time but no we have a
3988s	cyclic meta Things Are
3992s	adjusting to whatever was played
3993s	yesterday so if certain things happen
3997s	certain other things are played and then
3999s	yeah the metaphor takes people just call
4002s	it the meta wheel I think back in the
4004s	day and yeah the the wheel is is just
4007s	moving about now
4008s	[Music]
4010s	my
4011s	leather spear on one always looks solid
4017s	especially when your opponent just can't
4019s	answer it without using a coin and even
4021s	though they're not answering it
4025s	yeah even
4028s	even for shadow priest this is a rough
4031s	hand like
4035s	you don't have a minion to buff with a
4036s	shadow ascendant like this is already a
4038s	tough matchup in terms of the Demon
4040s	Hunter you know gets on board earlier
4042s	they're able to use weapons and Rush
4045s	minions and all kind of stuff to keep
4047s	the shadow priest off the board but then
4049s	on top of that this is just not what
4052s	Casey is looking for in an opening hand
4055s	no it's it's a nightmare for him at the
4058s	moment
4058s	um
4060s	and he's just hoping not to see a two
4062s	drop come on to board and look there's
4064s	the two dropping the little nod from
4065s	case he's like okay well
4068s	go do my best but
4070s	game threes game five is looking very
4072s	likely right now
4074s	yeah just gonna leverage that hero power
4077s	do a little bit of clearing maybe reload
4080s	with arms dealer plus the ascendant next
4082s	turn
4090s	I think if you're surrender
4092s	I might just play the glave tar right
4094s	don't swing
4096s	I think so yeah
4098s	I think that's probably for the best is
4100s	hands
4101s	not going anywhere right so
4104s	he's just in the fortunate position that
4106s	noise Casey's
4113s	yeah gotta play the undying allies first
4115s	make these a little bit stickier
4117s	um you know another reason that the
4119s	Demon Hunter is good into this though is
4121s	that
4122s	there's one one rushers are good for
4124s	taking care of that last bit of Health
4125s	on the reborn minions so this is going
4128s	to be
4129s	you know full Outcast turn with the
4132s	security into spectral site
4136s	yeah and it should be good because
4138s	obviously surrender is going to draw
4139s	infinite cards over the next two turns
4141s	but it's just at least giving Casey's
4143s	terrible hand a little bit of time to
4145s	get less terrible uh I I would still
4147s	rather be on surrender's side here but
4149s	from where Casey sat after that terrible
4151s	start at least he's not down to like he
4153s	might he might just be dead by now
4155s	sometimes
4157s	yeah but with two locations and a clear
4160s	for surrender on this board may just be
4163s	having to play a location without
4165s	anything to activate it on
4169s	the start of the infinite draw turns up
4171s	here
4173s	all right that's
4177s	could be worse for Casey I guess like if
4181s	you're if you're supporting Casey in
4182s	game four you're clutching its drawers
4184s	already so you'll take this it's it's
4185s	not great
4188s	that Fierce outrider pickup
4191s	not Outcast but it is still a outcast
4195s	card and because of that it will upgrade
4197s	the glaivetar I think opting to use the
4202s	oh over there I was gonna say the one
4205s	card he needs is grave digging right now
4208s	well and Then followed at some point by
4210s	a shadow shadow word on death which
4213s	would clear the entire board pretty much
4216s	at any point against
4218s	the Demon Hunter
4222s	I'm a little surprised to see that the
4224s	ascendant didn't get cleared what do you
4225s	think about that
4230s	yeah I I think I got rid of it but
4234s	maybe someone's just happy to just take
4236s	this on he's his hand has got infinite
4239s	damage next turn he's got infinite card
4241s	draw
4243s	I suppose what surrender was maybe
4245s	thinking was okay Casey's got a slow
4247s	hand here maybe I can actually just push
4250s	a ton of damage with elveria
4252s	and leverage that into into just okay
4255s	losing the board but just winning the
4258s	game very very quickly
4262s	you
4263s	tell you that and I kind of agree but
4265s	suddenly there's 10 coming back the
4268s	other way
4270s	well pushing this weapon face and and
4272s	seeing what comes in the drawer
4278s	I don't think there's ever time to play
4280s	another glaivetar
4282s	without clearing
4284s	this is gonna be the story of this event
4286s	by the way um who calculates these races
4288s	the best there's gonna be a lot of these
4290s	aggro matchups where people like me say
4292s	oh but I'm scared of the tank coming
4294s	back and people like you are gonna be
4296s	saying yeah but you're doing 17 who
4297s	cares and there's gonna be a lot of it
4301s	today I think and you're right
4303s	absolutely right that damage is all
4305s	going to the phase
4306s	no just some of it okay
4311s	well there is a tricky thing while you
4313s	want to swing in with the halveria first
4315s	to buff the most minions you have to be
4318s	able to swing into something where she
4320s	survives and that option was not in play
4330s	it's always thinner by the way you
4332s	always get your opponents thinner
4334s	[Laughter]
4337s	certainly a good card to pick up when
4339s	you've got things like mind Seer and
4341s	undying allies which are very
4343s	inexpensive spells
4346s	so surrender's got to find over this
4349s	turn and the next turn away to do 11
4351s	damage I think he's his calculation or
4353s	obviously there's other options clear
4355s	the board obviously is one of them but
4357s	I'd be looking to try and do 11 over two
4359s	terms which is the weapon two swings and
4362s	predation and work out if anything can
4364s	go wrong with that
4365s	well this uh Rush draw I believe is
4368s	guaranteed to pick up one of the five
4370s	fives and enough Outcast cards may have
4372s	been played
4373s	to reduce them to zero
4381s	start off with the studies Wayward say
4383s	it would give some nice discounts would
4385s	also make that predation free I-beam of
4387s	course is healing yeah he's gonna go for
4390s	two weapon swings I think
4394s	let's see if he gets there
4398s	yep just keeping topped up in terms of
4401s	the life total knowing hey my opponent
4403s	doesn't have any taunts I have a glaive
4406s	tar that deals eight over two turns and
4408s	I've got a predation for next turn it
4410s	doesn't matter if it's not discounted
4414s	and yeah surrender's done the math not a
4417s	whole lot that Casey can do to prevent
4418s	it
4420s	four four and three
4422s	surrender gets there
4424s	two two and he's gonna go into an
4427s	unfavorable game five though but that
4429s	was that was nice I mean Casey you know
4430s	didn't get the hand that to help himself
4432s	but surrender
4434s	you know kept cool he had a couple of
4436s	decisions to make where particularly
4437s	that clear term that you identified
4440s	with the health area and yeah he he
4443s	timed it nicely he had said that exact
4446s	lethal knowing he was almost certainly
4447s	safe so
4448s	takes it to this important game five
4450s	remember the loser does get another shot
4453s	they're not out straight away but it is
4455s	massive getting that first win under
4456s	your belt here
4458s	I think it's very easy to get
4459s	sidetracked especially with a lot of
4461s	Rush minions and all that going on in
4463s	the outcast Demon Hunter with just you
4465s	know clearing clearing taking control of
4466s	the board and that is a way that you can
4468s	win but the undead priest can sometimes
4471s	create some pretty sticky boards with
4473s	that undying allies Etc and you know
4475s	they're also an aggro deck trying to
4477s	push damage the outcast DH doesn't have
4479s	a ton of healing so I like this from
4481s	surrender just saying hey if I leave up
4484s	a wide board I know the shadow word on
4486s	death doesn't come down till turn five
4488s	he can push a fair bit of damage with
4490s	hellveria and then set up that two turn
4492s	lethal with the second glaivetar and the
4493s	predation
4495s	yeah and again you highlighted a couple
4498s	of terms before that he probably
4499s	wouldn't have the chance to play the
4500s	glaive dive if he hadn't done that
4502s	damage
4503s	that would have just been a card not
4505s	just stuck in his hand because it costs
4506s	so much Mana but also it's gonna be
4508s	clogging up all your outcasts it would
4509s	have been an absolute real pain but
4512s	because he makes you pushed that little
4513s	bit of extra damage he did find a way to
4514s	free up the hand and get the win that
4516s	way so nicely worked out by surrender uh
4519s	but again he's still got it to do now uh
4521s	what what does he need to draw with this
4523s	Rogue to be able to stand up to the very
4525s	aggressive start from the priest the
4527s	most likely aggressive start for the
4528s	priests
4530s	so I think you're going to be looking to
4532s	pick up you know things like the ghoul
4535s	to make your concoctions free you
4537s	definitely want those potions so you can
4539s	get things like the deal three damage
4541s	and make a minion or something like that
4543s	I mean you really
4544s	want anything that just helps you clear
4547s	right even ghostly strike can be quite
4549s	good for finishing up the reborn half of
4552s	certain minions astalor actually if
4556s	you're able to deal with the early game
4557s	with with that fan of knives ask the
4559s	Lord could come in clutch just for being
4560s	able to get armor off of the second half
4563s	but you really need to minimize the
4565s	damage that you take in these early
4566s	turns
4567s	yeah a bit of a different hand this time
4570s	for Casey
4575s	and for Savannah yeah he's also got a
4577s	super looking curb because he actually
4579s	might just get the the right concoction
4581s	this time as well probably
4585s	these are going to be quite tough this
4588s	particular sort of one-two combination
4590s	with the undying allies the egg well if
4594s	you don't want it to get buffed by the
4596s	Banshee you have to kill it well that of
4598s	course makes a 3-3 another egg so this
4600s	is sort of a
4602s	don't if you do don't if you don't
4603s	situation because you can't clear either
4605s	of these minions without just generating
4607s	more power
4608s	[Music]
4609s	and this is where people say oh turn two
4612s	why is player thinking so hard this is
4614s	it the game is all about this turn if so
4617s	let me get this turned Rocky probably
4618s	just loses on the spot
4620s	um yeah how do you want to invest the
4622s	coin over the coming terms how does he
4623s	want to generate some way of fighting
4625s	back here because he's gonna be under
4627s	immense amount of pressure right from
4629s	next turn onwards and I think that
4632s	buffing The Conjurer is actually the
4636s	best outcome because if it Buffs the egg
4637s	then Casey is able to attack with that
4640s	egg and and kill it off and summon the
4642s	next one Etc
4643s	but buffing the psychic conjure not so
4645s	much so I'm not gonna take the other 50
4649s	50 here but just gonna remove
4651s	one two from play keep it in hand so it
4654s	can't be traded into very clever
4658s	deal as well though he had to work out
4659s	like how big a graveyard impact that's
4661s	going to make by just taking this off
4662s	the board
4664s	um obviously it's just it's just the one
4665s	Shadow step but
4668s	he he the whole of that term was about
4670s	what what graveyard am I going to make
4672s	and when am I going to make it and am I
4674s	going to live long enough to do
4675s	something with it
4676s	and I'll be very interested to see how
4678s	he chooses to go about this this coming
4679s	turn now
4680s	[Music]
4682s	Casey deciding for a little bit there
4684s	whether or not he wanted to kill his own
4686s	egg with the hero power seeing you know
4688s	not much going on on this next turn but
4690s	that does open up you know perfect
4692s	targets of three threes for a serrated
4695s	bone Spike or something along those
4696s	lines
4699s	yeah yeah he you can see by looking at
4701s	his face the drawer is terrible and he
4703s	was looking for a way to
4704s	to put more damage on the board
4707s	um but yeah deciding that this is the
4708s	lesser of the two evils
4713s	[Music]
4715s	there is that fabled Sprint
4720s	it's unveil laughs
4723s	yeah remember those were randomly
4725s	generated they weren't potion belts they
4727s	were both from the um
4729s	concocter hence Casey's
4732s	um slightly sarcastic people was there
4734s	yep and Shadow demise I think is a car
4737s	that's just gonna be in all Rogues until
4739s	it rotates out just gives you an extra
4742s	copy of whatever and sometimes that just
4745s	means an extra copy of the coin so that
4747s	you can
4749s	play an extra card and get something
4751s	like this 77 ghost
4755s	High cultist basil f is quite the pickup
4760s	[Music]
4762s	yeah surrender only on 22 with five
4766s	potential coming in I think Casey's
4768s	looking just playing this ignoring the
4770s	7-7 and saying generation yep
4775s	enjoy
4777s	yeah here we go the race is on only
4780s	brings back the one minion but it's
4782s	still you know a decent amount of power
4785s	that being said with ghouls able to
4789s	activate these concoctions for surrender
4791s	[Music]
4797s	almost wonder if you take the slimy here
4800s	you don't necessarily need
4803s	six damage unless you want to Target the
4805s	basil f
4807s	well unless you want to race
4808s	[Laughter]
4810s	might be a little bit early for that
4813s	yeah
4815s	that's gonna be my phrase of the weekend
4817s	I can tell already it's just like is the
4819s	vase there though
4822s	this this makes the most sense to me oh
4825s	quite the minion to summon
4827s	does lose the 50 50 there where the
4830s	Banshee is able to buff the egg and now
4832s	the question is
4834s	dude you go face with that seven seven
4836s	or do you kill the basileth
4839s	oh
4843s	okay she's got so much damage over these
4845s	next two or three terms
4847s	should have known that was there as well
4849s	because what's Casey got in his hand
4850s	he's done nothing for three turns
4852s	uh maybe he didn't because he got the
4854s	bass left in me so that kind of
4856s	disguised it but now Casey's just got
4858s	the Necromancer which nearly always hits
4860s	in this version of the deck
4862s	and that damage is coming in thick and
4863s	fast he's got lethal over the next two
4865s	turns I feel with a combination of five
4868s	two and four coming up
4870s	and this is always the double bind with
4873s	Shadow priest when they are able to get
4875s	that early aggression in play and you're
4878s	you're trying to mount a defense you
4880s	have to clear and very frequently when
4884s	you do that it just puts you in a
4885s	position where you get blown out by
4887s	Shadowood on death
4895s	foreign
4896s	ER doesn't know
4898s	[Music]
4901s	that he's likely to die over the next
4902s	two turns but he also will have a very
4904s	very good idea the damage output from
4906s	this deck is very strong
4914s	[Music]
4917s	and this could go badly depending on
4920s	what gets hit by the concoction trying
4922s	to win another 50 50 here
4925s	and that's actually quite interesting uh
4928s	card people may not know their zero six
4931s	summons a cup or it becomes a copy sorry
4934s	a creepy painting becomes a copy of
4936s	whatever minion was killed so since uh
4940s	it's summoned first and then destroyed
4942s	the three three it just became copy of
4943s	that three three
4945s	yeah and Casey's relaxing he knows he's
4947s	almost yeah I mean it's never over
4949s	against concoction Rogue until you've
4951s	actually killed them but he knows that
4953s	he's an incredibly strong position now
4957s	quite a few turns until Laura is
4960s	actually able to gain armor so outside
4963s	of some hallucination cards
4966s	I don't think that surrender is finding
4969s	a way out of this krabatoa looks good
4970s	but you're at far too low life total
4977s	yeah he needs
4979s	oh he's just going to say you haven't
4980s	got it the world where I win is the
4982s	world where you haven't got it
4984s	yeah sometimes it's just what you have
4986s	to do but I'm not gonna work out this
4988s	time
4989s	yeah yeah that's absolutely fair enough
4991s	like look how much damage he has put out
4992s	there in the world where Casey doesn't
4994s	have it next to her there's a lot of
4995s	damage that is lethal that surrender has
4997s	set up for the next turn that doesn't
4999s	exist and he knows that but
5002s	yeah
5003s	Casey taking you down three two and line
5008s	up Advantage translating into match
5010s	Advantage there the the shadow priests
5013s	being a decent fourth pick uh against
5016s	that Rogue
5019s	yeah when you look at the lineups
5021s	players brought 14 players have brought
5024s	Rogue and I believe only one of them is
5027s	not a miracle Rogue opting for a sort of
5030s	more pirate weapon Center Rogue uh so
5034s	definitely a deck that people favor
5036s	quite a bit but it can struggle at times
5038s	against uh certain aggressive matchups I
5041s	think Shadow priest in particular just
5043s	has lots of sticky boards and uh things
5046s	that when they die deal damage
5050s	yep nicely worked from Casey there
5052s	um surrender really didn't have much of
5056s	a a better play that I said maybe he
5059s	should have seen it coming he probably
5060s	did see it coming he just realized
5061s	that's what he had to go for to set up a
5063s	winning play so you're the underdog
5065s	you've got to find ways to set up boards
5066s	that work he he did that twice uh but as
5069s	it happens neither of them stuck and his
5071s	TJ again he's back
5074s	I'm back that's right
5077s	um yeah that was a wasn't really
5080s	expecting five game set
5082s	kicking things off and actually slower
5084s	than I thought it would be mostly on
5086s	surrender side A lot of times uh and you
5090s	you can say oh you're crazy that never
5092s	happens it feels like Casey plays so
5094s	fast that players match his Pace right
5097s	when they when they play against him
5101s	um which is a very interesting
5102s	phenomenon that that happens so but
5105s	ultimately the the shadow Preserve at
5107s	the end getting it done
5110s	you never want to fall into your
5111s	opponent's Rhythm if you don't have to
5113s	that tends to give them the advantage
5117s	absolutely yeah especially since Casey's
5120s	been playing for what
5122s	nine
5124s	eight years
5126s	nine years and it has never changed his
5129s	Pace quite a long time yeah his first
5131s	competitive foray was that like the
5133s	Europe
5134s	um Regional Championship in what likes
5138s	uh 2016 I think was the first year Neil
5141s	you can correct me if I'm wrong
5142s	statistician associative the first year
5146s	of when we had Regional seasonal
5148s	championships so we had playoffs 15
5151s	15. it could be 15. 15 or 16. it's
5155s	definitely 15 or 16. 14 had the the
5157s	weird it did have regionals of assort
5159s	but they weren't the one Jimmy yeah so
5161s	16 the ones you mean
5163s	yeah
5164s	um but uh even then Casey was playing
5167s	super fast and that was actually right
5169s	after we switched to you know there
5172s	being like turn actual turn timers
5175s	uh so what we were used to I know there
5179s	wasn't turn timers at the beginning the
5181s	uh what was it fight night uh back in
5183s	the day there was no turn timers they
5184s	had to manually enforce turn timers uh
5188s	for four players so uh pretty fun pretty
5191s	fun to see but a good one for Casey
5193s	again this is just round one
5195s	um this is the initial matches of each
5197s	of these four player groups so surrender
5199s	is not out of the tournament uh just yet
5202s	so and we'll try to fight his way
5203s	through the lower bracket in the group
5205s	remember goal is top two in each of
5208s	these uh four player groups in order to
5210s	make it into the top eight uh tomorrow
5212s	which then it's a full reset it doesn't
5213s	matter if you're a first in your group
5214s	doesn't matter if you're a secondary
5216s	group doesn't matter how many you won or
5217s	lost just matters that you got there so
5220s	um we we still have uh plain more action
5221s	to come here on day number one of the
5224s	Hearthstone Masters Tour spring
5225s	Championship uh we're gonna take a quick
5227s	break but when we come back we're gonna
5228s	have some more Hearthstone matches from
5231s	around these rounds for the group stage
5233s	stay tuned
5236s	[Music]
5244s	[Music]
5260s	[Music]
5263s	thank you
5279s	thank you
5305s	foreign
5323s	[Music]
5330s	[Music]
5339s	foreign
5351s	[Music]
5370s	[Music]
5373s	thank you
5376s	[Music]
5388s	thank you
5392s	[Music]
5403s	[Music]
5414s	[Music]
5431s	thank you
5435s	[Music]
5440s	[Music]
5452s	[Music]
5457s	[Music]
5462s	[Music]
5464s	thank you
5487s	[Music]
5494s	thank you
5515s	foreign
5521s	of the first Masters Tour of the year
5524s	and we just saw Casey take it down three
5527s	two but we're going to move on to the
5529s	second round of games now the losers
5531s	brackets in these groups and I'm joined
5534s	by two people we've talked about the
5535s	players these two have been together
5537s	since gffinity summer Cup in 2015 which
5542s	is nine years of casting together and I
5545s	don't know which one to ask first I'm
5547s	gonna flip subtle how have you put up
5549s	with him for this long
5551s	yeah I mean first off sorry about that
5553s	it's just been so long I forgot which
5554s	way I'm supposed to be facing is my mic
5556s	supposed to be muted am I supposed to be
5558s	naked from the waist down like I'm
5560s	unsure of all of these questions uh stay
5562s	tuned we'll find out how many of those
5564s	I've got wrong
5565s	um yeah nine years is a long time to be
5568s	with this chucklehead uh the divorce
5569s	papers are in the post just so you know
5571s	I think the uh the partnership is is
5573s	coming to an end very soon
5577s	[Laughter]
5585s	going through there and weak you and you
5589s	going to the lower bracket that doesn't
5591s	seem like much of a surprise to me
5592s	Levick on Amazing form recently yeah
5595s	it's a tough one I do think in general
5597s	like there's a you know the couple of
5598s	crowd favorites did go through there so
5600s	that'll be exciting
5602s	then we have Casey versus gamer rvgm in
5605s	the winners match of Group B which is
5606s	gonna be crazy and surrender getting
5608s	knocked down uh to lower bracket it did
5610s	hurt my soul watching that but of course
5614s	this is surrender match there was a
5615s	reason it was featured because it's two
5617s	great facing off against each other so
5619s	unfortunately one of them has to lose so
5621s	we'll have to see how that one plays out
5623s	a little bit later on
5625s	um but yeah I'm excited to see what
5626s	happens in group C as well yeah pocket
5629s	train as well probably one of the
5631s	foreign players in the world certainly
5633s	kind of has that that new level of hype
5635s	to him right there's always a player
5636s	that everyone's like is this the best
5638s	player in the world you know bird meme
5639s	is this the best player in the world
5643s	moment no great surprise see him go
5646s	through and it was very very fast I
5648s	believe I believe was the first match
5650s	finished out of those opening round
5652s	matches that we saw and then me smile
5655s	has managed to pop himself into two
5657s	different places in the same bracket
5658s	which is very impressive
5660s	yeah share strength this is not a
5662s	spoiler just so anyone's aware as far as
5664s	I'm aware it's not saying that me smile
5666s	is going to lose against the air the
5668s	winner of meaty vs Hemlock uh but still
5674s	is correct versus me smile and honestly
5677s	so
5678s	actually for us that just feels that
5680s	maybe wrongly but feels like a surprise
5682s	like wait y'all are just want himself
5684s	right like he just wins games of
5685s	Hearthstone
5688s	it is and I know Lorinda earlier was
5690s	talking about how you know how much
5692s	Legacy matters versus form and
5694s	experience right now yala has both like
5697s	yali's grinding hard still and is one of
5700s	the greatest players to ever live so I
5701s	think that one has to go down as a bit
5702s	of a shot
5705s	yeah absolutely
5707s	um we soon have got a lot of these
5709s	Legacy players have turned up for this
5711s	event it's um it looked like most of
5713s	them wouldn't it's like a ladder grind
5714s	can we be bothered we've been playing
5716s	for eight years but suddenly we've got
5718s	yala we've got Casey we've got surrender
5719s	yeah Bunny Hop was in the mix ties was
5722s	in the mix going into the the third
5724s	month of the Season you know there's a
5727s	new guy there's pocket trains and all
5728s	those people requests some of the newer
5730s	players but I don't know it seems to
5732s	have got to the Legacy players and
5734s	tamsoku absolutely qualifies in that
5736s	camp
5738s	yeah 100 I think tonsoku's one of the
5741s	players that even in the early days of
5744s	sort of APAC you know starting to be
5746s	more uh it's such a scene on on side of
5749s	the western scene I guess like tonsok
5751s	has just always been there and always
5753s	looked impressive so I'm excited to see
5756s	more play from them as well so this is
5757s	going to be pretty cool
5759s	in this indeed particularly in the
5761s	matchup against banterface which Fanta
5764s	face is a player that I do believe I owe
5766s	a bit of an apology to I was a little
5768s	dismissive of banto when he first
5770s	appeared on the scene in America's Grand
5771s	Masters
5772s	um to the point where banter entirely
5774s	unbothered by this still remembers the
5776s	quote verbatim and can quote it back to
5778s	me on demand a given but I think banter
5781s	now has really established himself as
5783s	one of the best players in the world and
5785s	I think this is a very fitting matchup
5787s	for us to be looking at now going into
5788s	these matches
5789s	yeah pretty weird as well it's not often
5791s	you actually dismiss banter so I guess
5793s	it must have been bad at the time yeah
5795s	we're taking through some of the lists
5797s	here as well that the players are going
5798s	to be bringing we see at tonsoku with
5800s	the uh the basically Shadow priest you
5802s	know aggro priest whatever you want to
5804s	call it uh with that idle weapon as well
5806s	and I feel like that's something that's
5807s	kind of just very recently jumped up on
5810s	there with a few of the players not
5811s	bringing it but when it gets equipped it
5813s	is a little bit like oh they can just
5815s	kind of do that whenever they want
5817s	that's a little bit scary
5819s	it is yeah very aggressive in overall
5822s	we're seeing this as well with the
5823s	outcast Demon Hunter with the shadow
5824s	priest or the undead priest whatever
5825s	we're calling it
5827s	um Outcast Demon Hunter obviously the
5828s	day one Terror did receive a little slap
5830s	on the wrist Nerf with the uh the
5832s	walloper coming through but it's Shadow
5835s	priest is a deck that really had to
5836s	struggle post-rotation it lost a couple
5838s	of really key cards
5840s	um obviously boy touched attendant being
5841s	Chief among them had to find new cards
5843s	to kind of creep in there a little bit
5845s	more Undead Synergy has moved into the
5847s	deck now as well as that weapon that you
5848s	were talking about so the deck is a
5850s	little different to me seeing
5853s	um a reasonable quantity of Shadow
5854s	priest in this tournament was a little
5856s	unexpected I did not think there was a
5858s	deck would be seeing a great deal of
5860s	this on the other hand though looking at
5862s	banterface's first deck uh the frost F9
5864s	this is a deck I was fully expecting to
5867s	see a million times over during the
5869s	storm
5870s	yeah I think there were some Givens I
5872s	think one of the interesting factors
5873s	between both of these players and I
5875s	think it's the most uh maybe the DK it
5880s	may be but I do think Frost was kind of
5881s	accepted when it came up to the
5884s	submissions but for me it's just well
5886s	antas Relic Demon Hunter versus tonsoku
5889s	on Outcast Demon Hunter and I know me
5891s	and you have been playing a lot of Relic
5892s	Demon Hunter but I definitely see the
5895s	merits of outcasts but I do feel it it
5897s	felt like it was very difficult decision
5899s	I think if I was submitting the lists it
5901s	would be very hard to pick one or the
5903s	other
5905s	yeah there was kind of a a bell curve of
5909s	popularity I guess with the demon
5910s	Hunters where it started off day one
5912s	Outcast Demon Hunter was absolutely
5914s	everywhere right uh then Casey happened
5916s	and he once again built the meta breaker
5918s	deck as tends to happen uh Relic Demon
5920s	Hunter appeared and then for a while
5922s	that was the best deck right this is the
5924s	deck people were talking about is the
5925s	deck we expected to see 16 times in the
5927s	tournament but I feel as we've crept up
5930s	on this tournament there has been one or
5932s	two Rumblings from some of the players
5934s	involved in this some of the other best
5936s	players some of the top players on
5937s	ladder maybe Relic DH has been a little
5940s	bit overrated and Outcast DH has kind of
5942s	been dismissed as you know the brain
5944s	dead aggro deck no agency or whatever
5945s	because I think the more you dig into
5947s	Outcast DH the more you realize the
5950s	hidden layer of lines and plays and so
5952s	on that you can find that really UPS
5954s	your win rate so
5956s	um certainly I was expecting to see more
5958s	of a leaning towards Relic Demon Hunter
5960s	than we did but I can certainly
5961s	understand having listened to you know
5963s	the pro Community sentiment in General
5965s	that there is a lot of faith now
5967s	building again behind the outcast Demon
5969s	Hunter
5971s	what do you think Lorinda you must be
5972s	having a great time trying to host me in
5974s	Seoul I I mean that's why I wanted to do
5976s	I just lit the touch paper just ran
5978s	that's how I knew it was gonna go down
5980s	I'm absolutely fine with that
5982s	um yeah I basically as always agree with
5984s	subtle because he shouts at me if I
5985s	don't so yeah whatever subtle says true
5987s	whereas I disagree because he shouts and
5990s	that's kind of weird in itself isn't it
5992s	so well
5994s	I guess
5996s	uh what do you think um I want to ask I
5998s	know he's watched a lot of this of the
5999s	the streamers in this tournament how
6002s	much we've seen of this the build up
6003s	into this event in streaming uh we've
6005s	got banter face Rec van some of those I
6008s	think it's been awesome honestly I think
6010s	the last week of the the monthly seasons
6013s	in general have been incredibly exciting
6015s	content to watch
6018s	um and I think you can kind of say what
6020s	you want about the level of grind that
6022s	this puts in but what it also does
6024s	create is an enormous sample size to
6026s	qualify for this tournament right you
6028s	play hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
6030s	of games a month and the people with the
6032s	best MMR get in the tournament so what
6035s	that leads to is a tournament where
6037s	these are
6038s	indisputably some of the best players in
6041s	the world right now you're never gonna
6042s	get one-to-one representation of just
6044s	the 16 best players in the world but
6046s	we're pretty damn close in terms of
6048s	people who are actively playing Super
6050s	engaged grinding Hearthstone right now I
6052s	think this lineup is incredible well I
6055s	have said way too many words so I'm
6056s	going to get out of here and leave you
6058s	two to it have a good match and I'll see
6060s	you all in a bit
6061s	bye Neil
6064s	goodbye and now it's just us we are
6068s	getting ready to get into the next game
6069s	we're jumping as quick as we can and I
6071s	think he never shuts up does he Raven
6073s	honestly he couldn't get a word in it I
6074s	honestly as soon as I knew Lorinda was
6077s	hosting us this this round I was like um
6080s	poor Neal just deserve it the phrase
6083s	third wheel comes to mind for some
6086s	reason I'm not sure why very much so I
6090s	am really excited for this one though
6091s	not only because I have no doubt it's
6093s	gonna be a good match but for me at
6095s	least for one not cast HearthStone for a
6097s	while obviously I feel like we've been
6098s	waiting for this tournament you know
6100s	we've waited long enough historically
6101s	we've had tournaments in like the first
6103s	time of the year would be mid to late
6105s	February or something so really being
6107s	ready for this one and also this meta is
6110s	one where I'm very okay with it yeah
6112s	blood DK could just go away for a little
6114s	bit for me but luckily bands exist and
6117s	but other than that very aggressive meta
6119s	and very brutal meta I would say yes you
6122s	don't really see players have a lot of
6124s	time to recover it's your opponent's
6126s	done a really strong turn
6127s	you need to keep up and if that if you
6130s	don't for like more than one turn you
6132s	slip away and it's all over and we've
6133s	seen that already in the match we've had
6135s	on stream earlier yeah it's interesting
6137s	because the meta for this tournament has
6138s	almost slipped around full circle to the
6141s	point where blood DK might have been
6143s	good again right because we we got into
6146s	the point where I think a lot of people
6148s	you don't have to be a lineup prep
6150s	tournament prep genius to get as far as
6153s	okay these are the good decks and then
6155s	if I put these good decks together and
6157s	look at which of them I'm going to
6158s	Target it's the Druid right and then so
6161s	suddenly you're like okay well now I
6163s	don't want to bring Druid anymore maybe
6164s	I should just bring four board-based
6166s	aggro decks and just beat the snot out
6169s	of Druid over and over again which then
6171s	lead to led to people dropping Druid
6173s	from their lineup dropping Relic Demon
6175s	Hunter from their lineup playing more
6176s	aggressive decks so then suddenly you
6179s	get back into the world of like a cup
6181s	sorry this that this actually caught in
6184s	my throat for a second is meteor genius
6186s	by having blood okay in his lineup where
6189s	suddenly you know you can you can prey
6191s	on those uh more aggressive decks
6193s	overall but personally I'm just not a
6196s	big believer in blood DK I think it kind
6198s	of gets the win rate it does because the
6202s	lines are fairly straightforward I think
6204s	it plays fairly face up in what you're
6205s	supposed to do on any given turn
6208s	um and I think the skill Edge kind of
6209s	goes to the aggressor against blood DK
6212s	in most of the matches so when you move
6214s	the matchups up to a higher level the
6215s	blood DK will lose more that's just my
6218s	stance on it in general but I'm
6220s	certainly interested to see how the
6221s	couple of blood DK players in this will
6223s	will work out
6224s	yeah it's gonna be pretty interesting
6226s	because again I was kind of going into
6227s	the prep here just assuming that oh DK's
6231s	just blanket banned you know just you
6233s	know what let's not talk about blood
6234s	let's not talk about Frost DK overall
6237s	feels just strong one or the other yes
6240s	yes each one has certain good matchups
6242s	and and certain other ones but I think
6244s	overall if I was going into this I'd be
6246s	like unless my opponent brings something
6248s	really weird like let's for example just
6250s	say there was one hunter in here and you
6253s	ran into that player you can then look
6255s	at your Hunter matchups but overall I'd
6257s	build that line up this
6260s	foreign
6264s	[Music]
6273s	[Music]
6282s	[Music]
6290s	I think debating a full keep here and
6292s	yeah he's gonna go for it he does have
6294s	undying Alia allies plus a ton of stuff
6297s	on the other side which is gonna be a
6299s	really powerful opening and even though
6303s	Frost DK kind of has this reputation as
6305s	a freeze and burn style deck it is
6308s	extremely board based for the early
6310s	stages so these early board battles
6312s	really do matter a lot
6319s	yeah this is pretty brutal I've been
6321s	there
6322s	and I've been hitting some uh
6326s	dks and it's been absolutely because if
6328s	you lose the board you are in that huge
6329s	trouble
6333s	foreign
6337s	basically hard path around two here
6348s	so
6350s	this is not looking too well
6354s	for this
6362s	answer on the other hand
6365s	has all the options in the world at full
6368s	keep
6370s	has allowed him to get miles ahead on
6373s	board as well optimized by that whiff on
6375s	turn two from tanzoku
6378s	[Music]
6386s	yeah it's like a too bad arms dealer
6387s	here from Atlanta phase being able to
6389s	not play out right now but is a card
6392s	that can definitely start to just stack
6403s	[Music]
6409s	foreign
6416s	[Music]
6419s	to be able to activate this egg fight
6420s	back against the board a little bit but
6422s	still has found himself enormously
6424s	behind on this point I did say the
6425s	battle for early board is important but
6428s	tansoku has definitively lost that
6430s	battle for early board so he will now
6433s	probably have to divert to more of a
6435s	freeze and burn based game plan unless
6436s	he can swing this very very soon indeed
6444s	is going to be very helpful because it's
6446s	one thing you can and I feel like it's
6448s	always been a problem with any previous
6451s	iterations of Shadow produce as well is
6454s	you can just dry up in hand a little bit
6456s	right yes you do need to hit some of
6458s	those key cards just to keep the cycle
6460s	going yeah but so far the pressure's
6462s	looking really good from a band to play
6463s	It's Gonna Make a good trick
6467s	s
6472s	Rowdy found such a useful card though
6475s	recent addition to frost DK a recent
6478s	addition to a few DK decks really uh
6481s	perhaps looking for replacement for the
6483s	location that was nerfed in the most
6485s	recent patch three charges down to two
6487s	uh certainly I think catches people by
6490s	surprise if they're not Frost DK players
6492s	and they aren't aware that this has gone
6493s	in the list the first time post patch he
6495s	played against Frost DK and they just
6497s	absolutely jammed around he found on a
6499s	minion and smashed you in the face with
6500s	it a little bit surprising to see but
6502s	really makes perfect sense I think Rowdy
6505s	fan perhaps a little bit of an
6507s	underappreciated card going into the
6509s	expansion in comparison to how much it's
6511s	now seeing Play I was gonna say I
6513s	imagine this is just gonna start seeing
6515s	played as a general card in most decks
6517s	it just feels good right he just gets
6519s	the job done a lot of the time so we'll
6521s	see how that one develops
6523s	it's one of those classic Zoo style
6525s	cards that we haven't necessarily seen
6527s	too many of recently right where it used
6530s	to be just have abusive sergeant and
6531s	defender of Argus and dark iron dwarf
6533s	and all of those things these are cards
6534s	that used to be good enough back in the
6536s	days of uh early on zoo yeah and then we
6538s	saw cards like you know fungal man so
6540s	generally things like that like any
6541s	board that has a oh sorry any deck that
6543s	has a basis on board just wants to play
6546s	those cards because they just represent
6547s	huge numbers Rowdy fan just kind of fits
6550s	into that category but unfortunately for
6552s	tansoku just fell behind so
6555s	significantly in the early game that as
6557s	I said the uh the board is not really
6560s	there banterface is now going to have to
6562s	set himself up for the long game against
6563s	some of this persistent freezing did
6566s	find Ron Applebaum off the uh amalgam a
6569s	couple of turns ago which you can see
6570s	Banta already planning for what a long
6573s	game looks like right with the mentality
6575s	kind of being okay if he doesn't freeze
6578s	me every turn from now until the end of
6579s	the game they're probably dead anyway so
6582s	I'm just gonna try and take some and
6583s	contingency plans to get myself to that
6586s	point if we start getting into
6587s	frostworms Fury territory rotten
6590s	Applebaum will be a card that will
6591s	probably give banter that extra turn
6593s	needed to live here and and what did you
6595s	make of that turn actually because
6596s	basically mobanda face decided to get
6599s	down the one drop instead of hero
6601s	powering obviously that does add more
6603s	immediate power on board but if he's
6605s	planning on maybe being frozen out or is
6607s	playing that longer game do you think
6610s	the hero power is getting them in like
6611s	you can and sort of just pushing those
6613s	cards further and stretching out the
6615s	resources it's gonna be for the
6617s	worthwhile I think here it's fine right
6619s	you'd have to see
6621s	um horn and frostwim frost ones Fury
6624s	coming out this turn to freeze you
6625s	because the other way of freezing would
6627s	be my menethil for example at that point
6629s	if you're playing more Minions that
6632s	plays around the weapon as well to the
6633s	same degree right because you can't full
6635s	freeze your board so I think in that
6636s	instance it does make sense uh however
6639s	it's the harbinger here that ends up
6641s	being the uh the card had to face
6644s	absolutely did not want to see and now
6647s	making me an absolute liar tansoku has
6650s	actually managed to stabilize this board
6651s	since yeah that is just such a powerful
6654s	effect on a three Mana card
6657s	I think there's a huge difference as
6659s	well uh when Shadow priest gets to stack
6662s	Buffs versus when they don't they can
6665s	win both types of games but a lot of the
6668s	decks uh in the meta right now have a so
6670s	much easier time if for example the
6673s	shadow ascendant hasn't been down for
6675s	the priest right and putting things at
6676s	like three and four health
6679s	oh these options all three all three of
6683s	the in hand choices were justifiable I
6685s	do think Crosswinds Fury was the best
6687s	pick by a good chunk but now the deck
6689s	choices there's a freaking yeah yeah I
6692s	was gonna say yeah yeah I can see it
6695s	again fairly recent new addition to the
6698s	patch uh as soon as it becomes visible
6701s	to either player uh that you have a
6704s	corpse activated card you then see a
6706s	corpse counter so banterface um and I
6708s	was looking from banter's Face's
6709s	perspective can now see how many corpses
6711s	he has as a priest
6716s	and this is why I really like him and
6718s	while I was talking about those mind
6719s	eaters earlier because it look look at
6722s	the game right like they've just helped
6724s	bander face actually build a plan that
6726s	isn't just I hope my stuff doesn't die
6728s	which is often the planes
6738s	so definitely not the end of the world
6740s	but this is simply strong and so I
6744s	started blasting yeah
6748s	actually if that was just a priest card
6750s	you know the main lighter no like but
6754s	just like my point is look how good it
6756s	is in this style of deck right obviously
6759s	the frost is a similar style but a
6761s	little bit more bursty but like it's
6762s	just so strong
6764s	also functioning as an undead as well
6767s	which means any such Synergy will be
6769s	activated which banterface does have
6771s	numerous amounts of
6778s	because again another premium card in
6781s	the deck historically Shadow priest has
6782s	scored an impact white boards from the
6785s	opponent but that is so strongly
6788s	clearance
6791s	just gonna buy himself a little bit more
6793s	time but now just do you like frostworm
6796s	here do you think there should be
6797s	another way to go back because I kind of
6800s	love just five to face
6805s	foreign
6810s	put another five five in play the issue
6813s	is you then have to start planning
6815s	around it because obviously you took the
6816s	frostworms Fury from uh tansoku's hand
6819s	so you know it's there so if you
6821s	frostworm their face they frostworm your
6823s	face where do we go from there uh you
6826s	have two Shadow are done deaths in your
6828s	hand at that point and those won't be
6830s	active because none of your minions will
6832s	have died presumably if tansoku just
6834s	shoots uh frost on Fury at face so it
6837s	does start to get a little bit awkward
6838s	as to what you would then spend your
6840s	manner on after that point which might
6843s	lead you to the argument of just playing
6845s	more minions this turn first trying to
6849s	get your opponent to do the first
6850s	frostworms Fury and then you go from
6852s	there with your frostworms fury because
6854s	that would then cause them to have to
6856s	theoretically kill your Undead to the
6859s	turn after that right which would then
6861s	activate your own deaths to be able to
6862s	burst out it's like in the the history
6865s	of hearthstone we've had many matchups
6867s	where like the tennis match begins right
6869s	and whoever goes first is often the
6871s	worse off
6873s	so I have to see how it plays out here
6875s	and it does look like I mean
6877s	with two of them in hand it's hard to
6879s	turn down from tonsoku right like it's
6881s	not like this is a bad play or anything
6883s	it's just we can see it creates a
6885s	slightly worse end of the stick uh for
6887s	tonsoka with the outcome in hand so
6889s	again this this is the kind of play
6892s	pattern of frosted DK once you get to
6894s	this point you just have these burst
6896s	damage freeze create the cards uh I'll
6898s	be able to just chain out of the next
6900s	few turns
6902s	all right
6910s	goes fury on the minion obviously
6912s	activating the healing but allowing his
6914s	minions to go through the face
6918s	which is a big deal
6922s	yes I think this has worked out pretty
6924s	nicely here for banter
6927s	by not going with the frostworms fury he
6929s	has very much encouraged hansoku to kill
6932s	his minions and activate the shadow word
6933s	on deaths which is a really really big
6935s	deal do you think it's one of them now
6938s	or do you think it's
6940s	it could be like Shadow world and death
6942s	hero power face I think mcbanic and
6945s	be okay with taking five
6950s	yes I think it feels a bit risky but I
6953s	think it's yeah it's
6955s	six this turn and you were to know you
6959s	have an undead on the bottom of your
6960s	deck you've basically won at that point
6962s	uh you know not allowing for discovered
6964s	vampiric blood or whatever else you're
6966s	dealing with in that situation so I
6969s	think that is just two high odds to turn
6971s	down at that point and with this priest
6973s	deck you play as if you have an undead
6975s	on the bottom because you kind of always
6976s	do right it's actually a rarity when you
6979s	don't
6980s	now is tonsoku gonna say okay I could
6983s	just frostworm again or is this going to
6985s	be in the Ruby and going you know what
6987s	six Health you know I'm talking knows
6989s	what's available something to heal and
6992s	he misses
6993s	yeah absolutely had to be it's I don't
6996s	think there's anything defrost can get
6997s	right like draw I think it has to be
6999s	like a blood card right yep just had to
7002s	be this other vampiric blood or
7003s	something along those lines
7005s	yeah any kind of lifesteal that you
7008s	could activate just anything but
7010s	he's gonna go for the college aren't
7012s	fair enough but we can see it's almost
7013s	certainly not going to be good enough
7014s	here
7019s	oh Rowdy fan but no Mana this was always
7022s	the owl because you have this 10 damage
7024s	from marrow manipulator anyway which is
7025s	just more efficient than the frostworm
7027s	fury would have been regardless you're
7029s	looking for that free spell to then play
7031s	uh from the norubian but yeah honest
7034s	actually guarantees it doesn't it yeah
7035s	I'm sorry yes the crossword Theory does
7038s	not even have to go looking for the
7039s	Undead on the bottom just has the
7040s	straight R5 damage from that yeah for
7042s	some reason I thought we're an eight
7043s	minute
7045s	there's a reason I'm not the sat there
7047s	playing the first game
7065s	okay you know that might not be the deck
7067s	I'm choosing to Target here so a really
7069s	good win there with the priests and one
7071s	of the reasons like I said why um I
7072s	think priests there this version of it
7074s	is quite strong right now because you
7076s	have the early aggression you have
7078s	decent damage from hand twitch again the
7081s	priest is historically not had access to
7083s	him it used to be way more board based
7086s	um and there's these options are just
7088s	generating extra
7089s	it's like we saw from with panda face
7091s	yep yeah and I think very well played
7094s	overall from banter he had the flying
7096s	start but because tansoku was able to
7099s	stabilize with Rowdy fan and Harbinger
7102s	there was a few clutch decisions from
7104s	banterface that actually made sure that
7105s	was getting over the line first off just
7107s	the way he played the opener the full
7109s	keep into the amount of pressure that he
7110s	got with undying allies and just a full
7112s	reborn board then the early discover on
7115s	the rotten Applebaum which came in
7117s	clutch four turns later probably after
7119s	that point
7121s	um really cut off any ability for
7123s	tansoku to do anything counter pressure
7125s	wise he had to continue to play
7127s	defensively because Banta just put taunt
7129s	and heel in the way and then thirdly the
7132s	Discover choices of the naggling ID
7135s	theft were perfect for finishing up that
7137s	game one Frost ones Fury one marrow
7140s	manipulator was exactly what was needed
7142s	to get over the line brief consideration
7144s	at the end obviously I thought for a
7146s	second that Anto was considering is
7149s	there any way to play around me not
7150s	having an undead on the bottom of the
7152s	deck but really he had the the wind
7154s	locked up with the frost women's Fury
7155s	anyway so really he sat there thinking
7157s	can I afford to also play around
7160s	discovered vampiric blood in this
7161s	situation right am I this far ahead that
7163s	I can also be discovered healing in the
7166s	end just decided to go for the linear
7167s	line absolutely paid off at the end very
7169s	very well played for uh by banterface
7172s	who as I have always said is one of the
7174s	best players in the American Street of
7176s	course how you know imagine the world
7178s	where you wouldn't have said that it
7180s	does mean that there is going to be the
7181s	Relic Demon Hunter and the Miracle Rogue
7184s	left for McMahon
7197s	of course on the DK once again and make
7200s	benefit is going to be on a relic Demon
7203s	Hunter and this is a deck I believe me
7205s	and you probably wrapped up hundreds and
7207s	hundreds of games on at this point
7209s	because I've been playing it a lot and I
7210s	know for sure you have yes
7213s	um yeah I'm kind of the nuts of this
7214s	deck I just just want to throw that up
7217s	I have like 200 games and 70 win rate I
7220s	love this deck for some reason just
7222s	combo based demon Hunters just seem to
7223s	be my jam just every meta I don't know
7226s	why it just always seems to be some sort
7227s	of combo-based Demon Hunter I go back to
7229s	however I will immediately be crucified
7231s	for saying that because this is much
7233s	more of a Tempo deck than people think
7235s	it is it is not really a draw and combo
7238s	style deck you really do generally to
7240s	play it well want to be playing things
7242s	every turn uh banter is going to have
7245s	issues doing that however because he's
7247s	got quite a slow hand at the moment
7250s	and I think the other interesting thing
7252s	to look into here is this match up
7254s	because if you're playing against the
7256s	death knight and you see blood death
7257s	knight I think you are delighted playing
7260s	Relic Demon Hunter if you know how to
7262s	play that matchup from the Demon Hunter
7264s	side I think you're absolutely thrilled
7266s	to see uh death knight in general the EQ
7269s	into Frost however a little bit more
7272s	tense and that might sound a little
7275s	strange because you have such insane
7278s	healing ability in the deck you feel
7281s	like you can Outlast the burn it's
7283s	really hard because against competent
7286s	Frost death Knights what they're not
7288s	going to do come turn seven turn eight
7291s	turn nine is play minions they're going
7294s	to equip weapons and they're going to
7296s	throw Spells at your face and at that
7298s	point it becomes monstrously difficult
7301s	to heal for the amount of damage in a
7303s	turn that they can do with one marrow
7305s	manipulator for example when it comes to
7307s	the late game so that's the problem it
7309s	can be very tricky yeah Relic Demon
7311s	Hunter has fantastic healing but it's
7314s	conditional healing it's not just yes
7316s	right so yeah it's going to be pretty
7319s	interesting and obviously these players
7320s	are good enough to know how this works
7322s	and soccer going to get a little bit of
7323s	a discover going on there and yeah yeah
7325s	oh yeah Mana frostworm tab seems good
7329s	like that's gonna do a lot of damage and
7331s	to pump out a five five so it's gonna
7333s	look pretty good to me
7335s	this hand
7337s	so yep there's bouncer with the this
7340s	hand socks face
7342s	and that's the problem I think Relic
7344s	demand is very strong but you do get
7346s	some games that you just don't get to
7348s	play I think even when we were
7349s	practicing I just didn't draw a relic in
7352s	like seven turns and I don't mean
7354s	Dimensions I mean a relic so I was like
7357s	I don't know what to do I can't really
7359s	make many minions I can't kill stuff I
7362s	can't draw cards I guess I just lose
7366s	oh boy the hits just keep on coming from
7369s	tansoku as well that is a monstrous
7372s	amount of pressure coming through here
7373s	gonna back it up with my amenophil this
7376s	is the last turn as well but a board
7379s	like this is effective and if you look
7381s	at tansoku's hand look at how perfectly
7383s	he's managed this right this is not an
7385s	accident every small minion in his hand
7388s	is on the board on turn five no turn six
7392s	he has none left to play at this point
7394s	and he's basically threatening lethal so
7397s	he is insisting that banter clears this
7399s	board this turn and now from this point
7401s	onwards if he plays a minion it's going
7403s	to be one five five which means the Reno
7406s	heals from Arcanist and unleash fail
7408s	just will not be a realistic possibility
7410s	for banterbase I'll say though the
7412s	second Unleashed fell not that my banner
7415s	facing a good spot by any means in this
7416s	in this game but the second pickup off
7419s	the top there
7420s	pretty good way to clear the board right
7422s	and I think at this point does face have
7424s	to just drop them both and diamond and
7426s	just rely on dimensions and carry on
7429s	next turn because yeah can't do anything
7431s	else right he just dies I think that was
7434s	the debate and the right smile there
7435s	from banter is like do I ever win this
7438s	game if I just drop double unleash fail
7439s	to clear this like I think there was
7441s	might have been a consideration of like
7442s	can I chaos strike and then they have
7445s	zero damage in their hand and then I
7447s	draw exactly Silver Moon next turn to be
7450s	able to clear this board that kind of
7452s	thing but I think you know no matter
7453s	which world you're living in this is a
7456s	this game is on a hiding to nothing
7457s	right now yeah and I think the problem
7459s	with that is even if there was Zero
7462s	damage well you wouldn't be clearing the
7464s	minions right which means the decision
7465s	yeah you clear one yeah so potentially
7468s	the damage you would take extra by not
7471s	clearing them would be what you would
7472s	heal back up for anyway right so like
7474s	it's like oh okay they're very happy
7477s	with a win and I I don't blame him I
7479s	think and to get just one win on the
7483s	board didn't you know obviously any
7484s	competitive matchup is what you want
7486s	right because it's like okay I've got
7488s	over that hurdle let's go so the frost
7491s	DK is going to be um done and dusted for
7493s	tonsoku now it does mean that there's
7495s	gonna be the it's the shadow piece and
7498s	the Rogue I believe because I think the
7500s	outcome is the one that's planned by uh
7503s	foreign
7507s	game as well and I don't think this will
7510s	go too far too assuade any doubts that
7514s	Manta might have right because weirdly
7516s	and again this is not a sentence I was
7518s	necessarily expecting to say coming into
7520s	this tournament he's one of the few
7522s	holdouts who's stuck with Relic Demon
7525s	Hunter right there's been an awful lot
7526s	of people that switched to Outcast or
7529s	were always breaking outcasts never got
7530s	on The Relic train Santa's stuck with
7532s	Relic uh banter's a someone that I talk
7535s	to a lot just hanging out in various
7537s	stream chats or whatever and I know that
7538s	he is a fan of the deck it hasn't
7540s	surprised me at all to see him bringing
7542s	this but when it you play the deck once
7545s	and it performs like that it's very hard
7548s	to continue to think rationally right
7550s	the size of one I know this is a good
7553s	deck I've been playing it all expansion
7554s	my win rate is excellent and you bring
7557s	it to a tournament and you play it once
7558s	and it draws like that that's the only
7561s	sample size that you remember right if
7563s	your mentality is going to falter so
7565s	hopefully for the sake a banter face you
7568s	can just uh square up and get that game
7569s	out of his head yeah I think what's good
7571s	is that as I was kind of mentioning
7572s	earlier because I've jammed enough games
7574s	at this like you do get those games
7576s	right where again double relative
7578s	dimensions and nothing to really get to
7580s	that point obviously that's six Mana
7582s	turn those things happen you do get run
7585s	over but the benefit I think the panda
7587s	face has is okay well I still need to
7589s	win with rally but now I'm going against
7591s	Victory
7593s	both I think pretty winnable matchups
7596s	for The Relic and Demon Hunters so we
7598s	are going to see it locked in once again
7600s	and tonsil could jump over to that
7602s	shadow priest
7604s	good opening though oh
7609s	how many cards are getting played term
7611s	one here for ton circus
7613s	all any and all of them yes
7617s	oh my the older the double reborn of
7621s	course yeah classic
7623s	[Music]
7628s	actually disgusting it's a very similar
7631s	opener to uh what Banta had on the other
7633s	side against the Frost death knight
7634s	right very very similar indeed it's just
7636s	like the double reborn with the egg as
7639s	well it's just like yeah play more stuff
7641s	I dare you oh
7643s	come on now we can have a different
7645s	conversation because suddenly one drop
7647s	coin into three
7648s	can at least be discussed
7650s	ah
7652s	I think it's still caught well yeah you
7654s	kind of have to draw something to do
7657s	next turn I guess if that's the line
7659s	that you take but
7661s	it's so much stuff in play on turn one
7664s	oh I agree if I was playing this on
7666s	ladder I'd throw it all out because it's
7667s	funny more than anything you know you
7669s	just dump your hand turn one but I do
7672s	think the three drop at least oh yes
7676s	well I think coin undying onto the three
7680s	drop is actually so strong that tonsoka
7684s	is just thinking wow okay
7685s	banter saw that so much later than we
7688s	did somehow like The Relic Vault was
7690s	drawn and it felt like 10 seconds later
7692s	Banta was like oh oh yeah
7694s	good card
7699s	this was kind of gonna be my argument
7700s	you know a good a good Demon Hunter hand
7702s	wants to play this on two anyway right
7705s	I suppose so my argument was going to be
7708s	just through the big thing on turn once
7710s	you pressured them playing Relic Vault
7712s	the most right you punish them for it by
7714s	hitting them harder but it's you're
7716s	playing an egg right yeah the egg gets
7717s	buffed it's not actually that much
7719s	additional pressure I suppose so by
7722s	doing it this way tansoku has ensured
7725s	that the curve is at the very least
7727s	smooth he knows he has something to do
7729s	on turn two he knows he has something to
7731s	do on turn three as it happens the draw
7733s	of the additional one drop was the
7735s	absolute nuts in that situation then
7736s	that's made the curve very very nice to
7738s	do yeah this is ticking every single box
7740s	at this point right so like now there's
7741s	like triple minion pressure also one of
7744s	the reborn minions Buffs the other
7745s	minions so suddenly with the relic of
7747s	Extinction doesn't necessarily feel
7750s	super strong it doesn't like benefits is
7752s	gonna crack the location and really try
7754s	and go here does hit the three one with
7756s	the one so it's not too terrible Good
7758s	Start yeah two will clear up the air
7760s	cleanly as well
7763s	does have a second Relic
7766s	imagine just broken the location double
7769s	relative extensions and the board looks
7771s	the same you'd be like I'm gonna I want
7772s	a refund on this
7774s	so now you can well you can hear a power
7776s	egg and then Extinction again
7780s	your extinction's only doing three
7782s	though so he isn't going to clear the
7784s	Firefall
7786s	did you hear about the two one you can
7788s	hear about the two one instead yeah
7791s	I feel like you do Extinction this time
7794s	yeah I I yeah I thought so
7796s	because I guess you could play on fire
7798s	you currently your hand has nothing to
7799s	do on five but ideally you're hoping to
7801s	play Feller in and have two Outcast
7804s	cards that are playable next turn right
7805s	that's that's your plan on fall or or is
7808s	the plan like Arcanist Extinction this
7811s	turn
7813s	no it was never going to be Arcanist
7814s	Extinction this turn I don't think I
7816s	think if it's being held it's being held
7817s	for the The Vault waking up next turn
7819s	instead I guess okay I just mean because
7821s	it's only on three right so yes it could
7825s	kill the egg and then
7826s	do three times the bird hits you for
7829s	five anyway
7830s	true
7832s	means tricky though because now the
7833s	other um we're born going on the three
7835s	drop is huge
7838s	believe in the security right yeah you
7841s	have to
7843s	okay close enough
7844s	[Music]
7846s	two playables is two playables obviously
7848s	security was significantly better than
7850s	anything else in that position but
7853s	close enough they'll have to do you can
7855s	also now hold this this turn yeah
7857s	now it's gonna yeah
7860s	if you proc the egg sure it's prox but
7862s	you can proc that probably next turn
7864s	exactly instead you're just making a big
7866s	bird for no reason I know what you're
7868s	doing as well is encouraging Batman
7869s	right if you if you actually killed some
7872s	of their Undead this turn then they can
7873s	it just gives them a better Battlefront
7875s	curve where they can just slam it down
7877s	and go away with them
7885s	hand was weirdly so good this coins just
7890s	sat there like okay yeah the coin is
7893s	gonna be two four threes next time yeah
7896s	yeah and that's why it's been held right
7898s	obviously that's why it wasn't like hero
7900s	power coin weapon which would could be
7903s	more optimized in some worlds yup you
7906s	know the other line that we were talking
7907s	about as well again it depends on what
7909s	the drawers were if you went coin
7911s	undying allies double one on one the
7914s	other danger that you then get into
7915s	based on your top decks is that you that
7917s	then playing haunting nightmare with an
7919s	empty hand on three with the second
7920s	undying allies right in a lot of
7922s	situations
7924s	um which you could certainly limit
7924s	what's going on with those two extra
7926s	four threes but certainly aggressive at
7928s	the very least
7930s	I see really no man are being retained
7935s	for a Rowdy fan on this turn
7937s	[Music]
7940s	just going blood Mage four shots which
7943s	will clear this up entirely yeah yeah
7945s	this is fine
7948s	play the stuff play as much as possible
7950s	and then and hope the air Unleashed
7953s	spells drawn off the top right
7955s	yep thinking one one into the remaining
7958s	four one that comes back off the reborn
7968s	that's you know
7970s	pretty much exactly what's in hand apart
7972s	from this top deck right so
7973s	[Music]
7980s	that's fizzle from the Mind eater I'm
7982s	assuming just from the bottom half of
7983s	the card that we consume right now
7988s	oh clear board one HP
7991s	Silverwood Arkansas
7994s	oh that was the draw or the Shadowood on
7998s	death off the top was the best draw by
8000s	some significant distance I think apart
8003s	from what the dredge guy which would
8005s	have been immediately lethal no it
8007s	wouldn't right no it still would because
8009s	the hero power cost zero yeah yeah still
8011s	has to do it though right grow in
8013s	impatient
8014s	the only
8017s	no that's gonna sound like now you're
8021s	committing this and now you know the
8023s	haunting nightmares are coming back down
8024s	right like this is such a whole it's
8026s	fine
8027s	school teacher into unleash fell easy
8031s	yeah school teacher I mean you do have
8034s	school teacher predation predation so
8035s	you can clear up some fairly large
8037s	boards from this position
8039s	does that pass again it's just passed
8043s	again
8046s	this is where the royalty fan needs to
8048s	come down on the Arc of this and be like
8049s	right aggro spell damage OH Ivy none of
8053s	those are I-beam
8054s	no nothing wow really well played for
8058s	tonsoku there obviously the opening was
8060s	super strong but just a clean end to the
8063s	game
8064s	how much is it actually 5 10 16 this
8068s	turn yeah 16 this turn not close
8072s	there you go and again I don't think
8074s	what tonsoku did at the end of that game
8076s	was you know rocket science or anything
8078s	but it was clean right it was just no
8081s	not giving Banner face anyway to
8084s	basically Reno up to full more or less
8086s	or like even like 15-ish would have felt
8088s	like full from where tonsoku was sat so
8091s	really well played there chipping away
8093s	with those hero powers and showing some
8095s	level of restraint to like the win there
8097s	and console suddenly uh leading the way
8099s	something
8100s	yeah a good lesson into in how to
8103s	exploit and abuse kind of the what
8106s	linearity Relic Demon Hunter does have
8108s	right it's not a linear deck by any
8110s	means it's incredibly complex and
8112s	branching and flexible and most games
8115s	are different than the one you played
8116s	before with Relic Demon Hunter in
8118s	general however the one thing that is
8120s	very linear is they really want to Reno
8123s	by you having four or five Minions on
8125s	board at some point during the game
8127s	right they really want to do that and
8129s	tansoku now twice with the frost DK and
8133s	with the shadow priest has played around
8134s	that super nicely this one I will say
8137s	was kind of handed to him a little bit
8139s	more because of the draw of the
8141s	Shadowood on death off the top right
8142s	otherwise he would have had to have at
8144s	least thought about full committing onto
8146s	the board records
8148s	um however the one with the frost DK I
8150s	think very very deliberately and
8152s	carefully was played out in the manner
8155s	where his hand was emptied of all small
8156s	minions by turn five and not turn six so
8159s	clearly tansoku has done the homework
8160s	and again
8162s	maybe this is some of what people were
8164s	fearing right when people said Relic DH
8166s	is not what it's cracked up to be
8168s	um you know when you play this with the
8169s	top 16 players in the world uh we're
8172s	better at exploiting the weaknesses of
8174s	Relic Demon Hunter than other people are
8176s	and that's why we've seen more and more
8177s	people uh leaning towards Outcast uh
8180s	Demon Hunter in general as well as of
8182s	course General holistic match-up
8184s	concerns in terms of what you're
8186s	building your lineup to do in Conquest
8188s	what you're trying to Target that kind
8189s	of thing because for example if you're
8191s	trying to beat Druid Outcast Demon
8194s	Hunter is on one side of that coin and
8195s	Relic Demon Hunter is very much on the
8197s	other in terms of the direct matchup in
8199s	general so certainly lineup concerns
8201s	will be the biggest Factor but it is
8204s	going to be really interesting to me as
8206s	this tournament pans out exactly how uh
8208s	the win rate of outcast Demon Hunter
8210s	versus relatively Hunter is going to
8212s	panel and here we go dive into the next
8214s	game and we are going to get hold of
8216s	this Rogue here for tonsoku the last
8218s	deck he has to win this matchup and uh
8222s	again as I mentioned Rogue earlier but
8225s	what do you feel about you know let's
8226s	just call it Miracle Road for now so
8229s	um what do you feel about how it sits in
8231s	the meta is it like the fourth deck is
8233s	it the third you know
8235s	if you're gonna do that sure
8238s	oh fell on two location on three draw
8242s	four in hand off the belt this is going
8244s	to be a rough game for banter um but to
8247s	answer your question yeah it kind of
8249s	feels like almost since since own
8251s	graveyard was released ever since the
8254s	play lots of cards in one turn and be
8256s	rewarded for it kind of package for
8257s	rogue appeared that every meta has to
8261s	some extent been a miracle road waiting
8263s	room right it's just like people play
8265s	with the new cards people find some new
8266s	decks and the good players are sat there
8269s	going okay this is fun and everything
8271s	but when do we tell people that actually
8273s	the best deck is still Miracle Road
8277s	um and I I don't necessarily think
8280s	that's where we are with this expansion
8281s	but I do still think that Miracle rug is
8284s	very very very strong this matchup in
8287s	particular though has got a little bit
8289s	awkward because because of the lack of
8292s	mailbox dancers your dracas are
8294s	significantly smaller than they used to
8296s	be you can still get big ghosts in
8298s	general because you can pre-load a
8299s	location right and then do what uh
8301s	tansoko is doing now draca has to be
8304s	played in that turn when you do it so
8306s	without mailbox dancer it's hard to make
8307s	massive weapons massive minions banter
8311s	faces on Relic Hunter is much better at
8313s	dealing with than they are just as a 14
8315s	attack weapon hitting them in the face
8317s	over time right so this matchup has got
8319s	a little bit better for the Demon Hunter
8321s	but this is never historically been a
8324s	good matchup for the revolution and even
8326s	to drill down the tracker Point like
8328s	contoku's not even running it
8331s	no he's like so like it's uh that's sort
8333s	of the problem that you can relate to
8335s	without those mailboxes so I'd love to
8337s	see how this one goes though Shadow step
8338s	kind of popping after some of this and
8341s	the location might be a linking to
8343s	action very very soon so yeah and when I
8348s	mentioned that large minions were
8351s	something you could deal with 11 elevens
8356s	on turn four when you don't have a relic
8360s	voltage
8362s	it's a little bit above and beyond what
8366s	I was referring to yeah Luke banter
8368s	there with the correct visual response
8370s	to this 11 11 is yikes
8373s	um
8380s	I was looking even like Rowdy right
8383s	yeah I mean
8387s	[Music]
8388s	school teacher get the predation active
8391s	and set something up next turn
8394s	it could well be um
8397s	because I do think naggling can really
8399s	pull things out the bag with this deck
8401s	there are so many good cards you can do
8406s	okay that's not the end of the world
8408s	that's pandao hear me out so rowdy fan
8411s	face
8417s	yeah
8419s	push the five
8430s	okay there's still plenty of juice for
8432s	tonsoku
8433s	and he'll just want to put himself in a
8435s	position where this location is going to
8436s	pop off once again next turn right if
8439s	you can defend the um the ghost that's
8441s	currently on board
8442s	mm-hmm and he gets it I suppose
8445s	basically do it again I yeah it's
8447s	looking at the outcome on the previous
8448s	turn obviously this way removed all the
8451s	power immediately that it could have by
8453s	going right twice but it's now left
8455s	banter in a position where he needs to
8459s	hit from the school teacher to even be
8461s	able to clear the 11-6 this turn right
8463s	whereas if at least one of the shots
8465s	from the extinction had hit the 11-6
8467s	he'd have a guaranteed predation clear
8469s	on it this time
8471s	concoction there three to face and kill
8473s	off the one anyway but yeah I agree this
8476s	would have to be what school teacher
8478s	into Relic again
8480s	high beam coordinated strike there's a
8483s	few things it could be
8486s	yeah uh none of those though
8487s	unfortunately wow
8491s	and again I feel like we just maybe
8494s	didn't touch on this too much but this
8496s	is an elimination match it is we're sort
8499s	of whipping through this tournament very
8500s	quickly but this is
8502s	pretty much gonna spell the end of
8504s	mcbanna face in their the first
8506s	championship of the year
8509s	Security will not do it just in case uh
8512s	you don't have familiarity the way
8513s	noggling's work noglings do not proc
8515s	outcasts so that will not summon the uh
8517s	the third Rush Minion to be able to do
8518s	this third point of damage
8525s	still not technically dead right because
8527s	you can do this
8532s	technically dead yeah no literally dead
8535s	actually yes
8537s	wow huge when you can see tonsoku there
8540s	just waiting just knowing he's got the
8541s	damage from hand he's gonna lock that in
8543s	he's gonna win the series
8544s	congratulations
8547s	and there's the way from it panda face
8549s	of course we've been talking about how
8550s	good the benefit is as a player and I
8552s	have no doubt he'll be back forth the
8555s	next one but for now just
8556s	congratulations
8559s	really well played matchup I think so
8562s	yes a few things obviously went his way
8565s	but I think turn for turn no no issues
8568s	on my end at least yeah again we talked
8571s	about sample size right and I think step
8573s	one these players are here if they're
8575s	here more so in this system than any
8578s	other we've ever had yes pretty much
8580s	right like they deserve to be here
8582s	because the sample size is monstrous
8584s	right and the players have been trying
8585s	to compete to make this happen you are
8587s	an elite level Hearthstone player if you
8589s	made it to this point once you get to
8592s	this point the sample size shrinks
8594s	enormously right so on top of playing
8596s	extremely well you are going to have to
8598s	have a few lucky moments to win a
8600s	tournament like this it's just the way
8601s	that small low sample brackets work in a
8605s	card game so the couple of moments the
8607s	tansoku had there being able to make an
8609s	11-11 on turn four for example drawing
8612s	the shadow word on death which was such
8613s	a perfect draw in the situation he drew
8615s	it those are the kind of moments that
8617s	you're going to need but you are going
8618s	to need to pair the with just playing
8621s	incredibly solidly throughout all the
8623s	preceding turns coming before that as
8625s	well which I think tan soap absolutely
8627s	did and was a dessert winner in that
8629s	point
8630s	um harp leads though for banter Lorinda
8632s	I'm sure you're the same banter good
8634s	friend of yours as well
8635s	yeah absolutely
8637s	um for viewers of banterface of course
8639s	um he's the one who's got to go through
8641s	it for three more months gotta do it all
8643s	again
8646s	yeah no that is very true
8649s	um there's a long road ahead of for most
8652s	of these players obviously the the
8654s	reward in a weird way for one of the
8656s	players who who wins this tournament is
8658s	to say okay job done I can I can relax
8660s	and wait for the World Championship now
8661s	and actually play HearthStone for fun
8664s	unbelievably if that's the thing that uh
8666s	that appeals to them so I certainly
8668s	think you know back to the Grind is a
8670s	hard thing to get yourself into and I'm
8672s	sure banter will be down about this for
8674s	uh for a couple of days not the only
8676s	rough result banter as an Arsenal fan
8678s	has experienced this weekend as well but
8680s	I'm sure a given time he'll manage to go
8683s	over both
8684s	and Raven you must be loving this
8687s	everyone's just smacking each other in
8688s	the face with Hearthstone cards that's
8690s	that's just you isn't it Raven I spoke
8692s	about this when we started right like I
8694s	was I was a bit worried about what this
8696s	metal was gonna look like
8696s	tournament-wise and then of course we
8698s	saw the players of what they submitted I
8700s	was like okay I mean this is what I've
8702s	signed up for but I do think that you
8704s	know as we've seen just in this small
8706s	selection of games we've seen on stream
8708s	it's not like oh just mindlessly do
8712s	stuff right because if it was mindlessly
8714s	do things tonsoku wouldn't have won
8715s	right I think there was a lot of
8717s	well-planned uh planned out uh plays
8719s	there for in multiple games so I do
8721s	think just because um some people I
8723s	guess someone has to like control
8725s	matters uh all three of you out there
8727s	but um if like if you think aggro or
8730s	fast games means they're easier in any
8733s	given way not necessarily true there's a
8735s	lot more rare weight to put on those so
8737s	it's the most earlier decisions and we
8738s	saw that play out uh pretty well in that
8741s	series
8742s	well I'd bring some Tidings because the
8744s	other matchup in the losers bracket is
8746s	still going on so I'm here to just tell
8748s	you that you're going to cast some Wiki
8750s	versus goyu and I'm gonna get out of
8751s	here and leave you to it yet again thank
8754s	you very much
8755s	when you get up the uh you talk I'll get
8758s	up the decklists
8759s	I'm glad we are going to see a few more
8761s	of these players uh especially since
8763s	we're dealing with lower bracket
8765s	matchups now so as we just saw with
8766s	banterface loser of these matchups uh
8769s	loser these matches will be exiting the
8770s	tournament so very fitting I think that
8773s	we at least get to take another look at
8774s	two players that we have not yet seen
8776s	this tournament again these players have
8778s	put in three plus months of grind to get
8781s	to this tournament I think you know the
8782s	least we can do is put them on camera
8783s	for a little bit so happy to see that we
8786s	are going to be diving into another
8787s	matchup
8788s	yeah and we will um be checking out
8790s	pretty interesting one I'm not sure
8791s	exactly what point in the series we're
8793s	jumping in because again the players are
8795s	there uh you know are playing the match
8798s	so we're just jumping into just
8799s	basically see more Hearthstone it is
8801s	gonna be one one I'm just not sure which
8803s	decks are actually being used or banned
8805s	or whatever but okay look at the lineups
8807s	overall so uh goo has the pirate Rogue
8810s	in there so that's a unexpected at best
8813s	there is a mage in there that hopefully
8815s	we can talk more about and I'm sure we
8816s	will across this weekend
8818s	um and also there is a druid on the
8820s	other side
8822s	um where they're weak their Wii U as
8824s	well sorry
8827s	because Mario party it's because the two
8831s	names could so easily join together so I
8835s	was like right hang on a minute Who's
8836s	Who uh but yeah we are going to go into
8837s	it it is 1-1 and then we are going to
8839s	see a Demon Hunter on the top and ah we
8841s	are going to see the Mage perfect on the
8843s	bottom I tell you what we really need in
8845s	Hearthstone Raven bonus Stars that's
8847s	what we're really rounded out thing you
8849s	know we really needed Hearthstone you
8850s	can be winning all game and then
8852s	suddenly the game just decides no we're
8855s	gonna give someone else the victory
8857s	you have that that is you are describing
8859s	Hearthstone as
8860s	well that's it yeah okay
8862s	uh yeah looking forward to this one Mage
8864s	was another one of the I suppose under
8866s	the radar decks coming into this one
8868s	um I know on ladder occasionally you'll
8871s	queue into like infinite Alibi freeze
8874s	Mage with light show and whatever else
8876s	there's a Wing condition uh that deck
8878s	sucks let's just get that out of the way
8880s	now however this more aggressive version
8883s	that tops out at deathhorn I do think
8886s	there was a window for in this
8887s	tournament
8888s	um and I think a lot of people in
8890s	particular have struggled a little bit
8892s	with third decks and massively with
8894s	fourth decks and this aggro Mage is one
8896s	of the Decks that really comes in as
8898s	like yeah okay it's it's just about
8900s	there for the strategy I want to go for
8901s	uh especially if you're you and you're
8904s	just saying straight aggro that's my
8906s	Strat you know like outright aggro in
8908s	general and I like it as well because
8910s	the reach of this deck is like sometimes
8913s	like old freeze Mage style if not more
8916s	right especially if you get a win rock
8917s	like involved you can just burst from so
8921s	far away it's actually kind of absurd so
8924s	let's see how this one plays out but
8925s	there's gonna be a lot of pressure
8927s	coming up from the top there because
8928s	this is the outcast Demon Hunter and I
8931s	would say this is if it wasn't for
8934s	Outcast being a keyword this would be
8936s	called Miracle Demon Hunter if Outcast
8940s	wasn't there right because you can do
8941s	almost infinite turns it feels like
8944s	sometimes
8945s	I was watching you oh my goodness it was
8947s	this morning that feels like a week ago
8949s	already it was this morning I was
8951s	watching you stream uh playing this deck
8953s	and you did struggle in a couple of
8955s	positions there was something that
8956s	people generally do when they're you
8958s	know getting their first few reps of
8959s	this deck uh under their belt which is
8961s	the second weapon not fatiguing you for
8965s	like 15 after you've played it it could
8967s	be a real problem with uh how much card
8970s	draw the deck can actually generate
8973s	and as the Exile come down as well now
8975s	which is fair
8978s	the backbone of the deck but one of the
8981s	most impactful cards that you can have
8983s	on board with this Outcast Demon Hunter
8985s	because the amount of just extra cards
8987s	you get that then get extra cards again
8990s	for you uh like that was part of kind of
8992s	the infinite turns I was talking about
8993s	is truly ridiculous but yeah you then
8995s	just being able to clear that up just
8997s	remove that okay now I know at least for
9000s	now my opponent's not basically going to
9002s	create infinite cards
9006s	security is going to be a pretty clutch
9008s	draw here for week you otherwise this
9012s	was going to be basically a hard pass of
9014s	a turn I think a term where you'd have
9015s	to just shut your eyes and go okay fine
9016s	I guess I'm playing alveria and crying
9018s	this term because you don't really have
9020s	any other alternative that spends any
9022s	kind of Mana whatsoever so I think this
9025s	might just be a little bit of a Saving
9027s	Grace uh Wiki I think is significantly
9029s	behind the way this game stands right
9030s	now especially because you has deathborn
9033s	in hand already which is the Checkmate
9036s	card in this matchup a lot of the time
9037s	but that security is at least a draw
9040s	that keeps him in it for Eternal two
9041s	because it will convert into a big chunk
9044s	of damage here if we wanted to
9048s	and not necessarily for this matchup but
9051s	one card I found like I was really
9053s	impressed with was you know volume up
9055s	because that allows you to just play
9057s	potentially very late game plan if you
9060s	really need to as well so if it comes to
9063s	it U does have plenty of juice left but
9066s	you are right if you can just get coin
9068s	death born out for example clear this up
9070s	make a wide board
9072s	there's a lot of work needs to be done
9074s	to recover from that
9076s	there is and I think deathborn will be
9079s	the card Chief in Wiki's mind
9083s	because having drawn Wayward Sage here
9085s	it looks like the turn is pretty
9087s	straightforward but even if you are then
9090s	going to for example just go straight
9093s	face with all the Minions that you have
9094s	on board right now with the helviria on
9095s	board and then trade the whole area last
9097s	just to play around that skeleton death
9100s	row killing one of the one ones you've
9102s	just made the perfect deathball board at
9104s	that point right like no matter where
9106s	the skeleton death rattles go
9109s	yeah
9111s	it's playing this that the problem you
9113s	have as well sometimes is
9115s	oh okay I didn't expect this I was gonna
9118s	say
9119s	you can wait too long for the perfect
9123s	ball with this deck right you can be too
9125s	greedy you can say oh I'm gone this
9128s	thing doesn't get me enough damage and
9130s	the more I played it the more I like a
9131s	plate like this I don't know whether the
9133s	damage should have gone face or the
9134s	trades were fine
9136s	um but either way I think cashing in
9138s	this much damage whichever way you do it
9140s	is okay it's not winning either game
9143s	like you wanted to but it's worthwhile
9145s	because I've had games where I'm just
9146s	sat with this in hand and I just never
9148s	get the board I want from it and then
9150s	you just realize well I've just wasted
9152s	turn after turn trying to create
9154s	something crazy when something just
9156s	decent would have done the job yeah it's
9158s	very rough right this trade so I think
9160s	if you make the play I was talking about
9161s	right you play the whole area you go
9163s	face with everything and you make one
9165s	trade with the halveria at the end
9166s	obviously that's the order that misses
9168s	damage but it's the order that protects
9170s	your skirt your uh Rush minions from
9172s	being blown up by the skeletons if you
9173s	do that no matter what you're conceding
9176s	the game to coin death porn at that
9178s	point pretty much the question though is
9181s	is the play you just made conceding the
9184s	game to other Hearthstone cards which it
9187s	kind of is right like you I think the
9190s	line that we queue has taken has to draw
9193s	a weapon now I think if you have two
9195s	weapons bottom 10 or bottom 15 or
9197s	wherever from now you're probably never
9200s	winning this game
9201s	yeah I I think I agree and I do think
9204s	that also the second Exile needs to make
9207s	an appearance and do also true yeah
9209s	because because that can really open
9212s	some doors right into what you can do
9214s	even if it's just um like a couple of
9216s	Securities to refill the board again
9218s	because unless there's a volume up into
9221s	more death bonds uh Q is going to run
9224s	out of them right at some point and if
9226s	you could just hold on through some
9227s	healing maybe and I still do it yeah
9231s	what they can here to try and put some
9233s	form of pressure just get five five down
9235s	and that is a reasonable card not weak
9238s	to death on of course but can get
9240s	cleaned up with just other stuff or
9242s	honestly you could just ignore it for a
9245s	bit if they really wanted to big fan of
9247s	the ignore it for a bit yeah yeah look
9250s	at the handle this is good right yeah
9252s	slitherspoon uh Arcane and Cold Case
9256s	just gain a million from the cold case
9258s	and the spell proc armor as well just
9260s	make a board make a counter board on the
9262s	other side of this
9264s	hold on to the artificer does have that
9266s	combo with their phone of course which
9268s	does make a lot of sense to be able to
9269s	hold on to for the long term as well
9274s	just gonna hold and say you know what
9275s	I'm over 30 Health against this aggro
9278s	deck great
9283s	okay Rush this stage does still draw two
9285s	at this point I think yep second
9286s	walloper
9288s	and The Outsider
9290s	the only thing gears missing maybe at
9293s	this stage of the game is a uh
9296s	uh Frozen touch or a keyboard right you
9299s	know just to actually start pressuring
9302s	back as opposed to defending uh which
9304s	has done very well off so far but I
9306s	think at this point now it'll be very
9307s	much like okay once these two five fives
9310s	are gone
9314s	my keyboard you mean the Hearthstone
9316s	card right and not just like he plays us
9318s	some music because I know that would be
9319s	a novelty for this stream right no no I
9321s	meant they've done a new thing you used
9322s	to only need them a mouse to play
9324s	Hearthstone Rhyme now use the keyboard
9326s	as well first time yes yeah yeah playing
9329s	Hearthstone with a Guitar Hero
9330s	controller is the new meta
9334s	it comes outfit now though
9338s	yeah they're gonna coin the deathborn
9339s	get the triple kill with the help of the
9342s	geyser as well I like this as well
9345s	because something you learn pretty
9346s	quickly with this deck is the artifice
9348s	is not there to gain 100 armor right
9351s	it's there to just be a thing and it
9353s	gains you like four to six most of the
9354s	time and that's fine yeah I mean if you
9357s	had a one Mana one two that gave you six
9359s	armor and then transformed into a tutu
9361s	that dealt two damage exactly you'd play
9364s	that card in every single deck yeah the
9367s	first a while ago I was looking at these
9368s	types of this I was like why is the
9370s	artificer there I'm like oh well
9372s	actually it's just good you know it's
9374s	just good enough right nothing crazy but
9376s	just good
9378s	now I was gonna say is this gonna be
9379s	Elemental into volume yeah yeah you'd
9382s	love to see this with the finale
9385s	oh it's all over
9388s	oh pick the Frozen touch yeah there you
9391s	go oh yeah oh yeah
9395s	one of my it's probably my favorite Mage
9397s	card since it's been released Frozen
9399s	touch Frozen touch okay yeah I just love
9401s	it it's just endless damage
9405s	and the amount of games you play where
9407s	your opponent actually just like gives
9408s	you lethal because they kill your
9410s	Minions that then uh infuses the Frozen
9413s	touch and be like oh thanks yeah no
9415s	problem this is smart by the way like
9417s	weq's lost this game I'm not here to
9419s	pretend that week you hasn't lost this
9421s	game but he's still playing to his outs
9422s	he could have played a sage there and
9425s	played those predations for zero and I
9427s	think a lot of people might have just
9428s	autopiloted doing that got a 2-2 on the
9430s	board but why why would you ever do that
9433s	instead this way he's actually holding
9435s	on to away with sage for a situation
9436s	where it can be relevant like drawing a
9438s	weapon for example and then having the
9439s	outcast in hand to be able to draw but
9441s	even then you're trying to live in the
9444s	weird Twisted world where you're
9445s	actually surviving for two turns to be
9447s	able to do that right which you're
9448s	absolutely not but the point I'm making
9450s	is even in a world where we accused dead
9453s	we all agree that weq's dead he's still
9455s	focusing on actually making the correct
9458s	play to try and find whatever slim out
9459s	you can possibly find yeah exactly right
9462s	there's no reason to jump out too early
9464s	and just play the game right do what you
9466s	can but either way maid's gonna get what
9468s	look to me so a very comfortable win
9472s	there and I think it's important we
9473s	mentioned that earlier the pocket train
9476s	took a very smooth win in their first
9478s	match of the day also running a very
9481s	similar list I'm not sure if it's card
9482s	for cards but also running this Mage and
9484s	the more I played this and I was like
9486s	you know what if I was taking this
9487s	approach I wanted Agro decks I think the
9490s	Mage would make it you know if I could
9491s	have tested every deck everyone
9492s	submitted I think I'd end up with Mage
9494s	on my lineup I like it a lot yeah Raven
9497s	always on the Quest for the quad aggro
9499s	lineup if he can if he can find it
9501s	whatsoever but yeah already picking up a
9503s	win with uh Mage again no real
9506s	confirmation of what the other Decks
9508s	that have won yet up to this point I am
9510s	curious as to whether we're going to see
9511s	this Rogue from you you called it pirate
9515s	robe I object to that name uh this is
9517s	weapon Rogue it just plays Pirates
9519s	because you need to play pirates in
9521s	order to make the weapon big I don't
9522s	think this deck ever wins by playing a
9525s	whole bunch of pirates and hitting you
9526s	with them it wins by making massive
9528s	weapons I said pirate Rogue because
9530s	donkey Falls a pirate Rogue so well then
9534s	forward any complaints to a donkey
9537s	please I will I will indeed I am
9539s	checking out though because you can't
9541s	see I guess what was done but I can make
9543s	a scene
9547s	uh looks like true weed took a win okay
9553s	and
9556s	first one
9559s	uh and death knight beat Druid in game
9562s	one so accused death knight beat Druid
9564s	and then the Druid won game two and then
9567s	we'll just see game three dimension
9572s	I mean I believe you but it currently
9574s	says the death knight
9576s	doesn't make any sense
9581s	[Music]
9584s	thank you
9586s	okay anyway opposite way around but who
9588s	cares let's see what's going on we're
9590s	getting to the next game either way yes
9596s	more importantly we have hit the deck
9599s	that I wanted to talk about so yes here
9600s	we are with weapon Rogue
9604s	um and you can see like yes there are
9606s	there is a stack of pirates in this deck
9608s	right but honestly the primary function
9610s	of why pirates exist in this deck is the
9613s	lower half of the text on swordfish
9616s	that's it they serve no other purposes
9619s	[Music]
9622s	do serve a purpose yes so you have heard
9626s	of me exactly
9632s	kind of keep going to be looking at here
9635s	it's just one weapon going on here is
9637s	this well what do you make of mic drop
9639s	have you you know looked at the card
9641s	that much uh do you have any strong
9644s	opinions on the card in this deck
9645s	because it's card drawing an aggro deck
9647s	which is normally pretty good
9651s	your weapon there
9652s	and kind of exactly what you want and
9654s	this is basically the dream curve
9657s	overall the problem that you're going to
9659s	run into here for you like say this was
9661s	against Relic Demon Hunter
9663s	coin weapon into mic drop is the easiest
9666s	snapkeeper they've ever seen in my life
9668s	right because you don't particularly
9669s	have to worry about their board for term
9671s	one turn two turn three most of the time
9673s	against Relic Demon Hunter you just want
9675s	to make a big weapon and hit them with
9677s	it over and over again and play as few
9678s	minions as possible this is Outcast
9680s	Stephen Hunter so you have the opposite
9682s	problem where you're gonna make one big
9684s	weapon they're gonna make infinite
9686s	minions and hit you with them so going
9688s	coin weapon in to buff your weapon is
9691s	probably going to be too slow in general
9694s	um however I don't think the debt really
9697s	has another strength to play towards uh
9701s	in order to be to be able to counteract
9703s	that uh sorry counteract that
9705s	specifically you do have a fan of knives
9706s	in the deck which can be your go-to card
9708s	for actually being able to scam a win
9710s	against Demon Hunter a lot of the time
9711s	but in general you are just going to
9713s	find yourself behind on board in terms
9716s	of minions and just trying to race its
9717s	effective position here what did you
9719s	think of the Corsair that term because I
9721s	think it was an option to just hold on
9722s	to it right because it yes it soaks the
9725s	three one ones fine but it could
9727s	potentially just do that next turn
9728s	anyway but with other minion backup do
9731s	you think it was worth holding on to or
9732s	do you think
9734s	I like playing it I think I think if the
9736s	best case scenario happens and this
9738s	three three eats these three one ones
9739s	like you will do a backflip enjoy it
9742s	like that would be insanely
9744s	yes I'm not sure whether his athletic
9747s	capabilities will allow that or not but
9749s	he will certainly have the inclinations
9750s	to try and do a backflip enjoy
9754s	foreign
9759s	looking for Jolly Roger fan of knives
9762s	whether that was ever worth looking for
9764s	in the Mulligan for this kind of
9765s	situation yeah I personally would argue
9768s	no and I think the way that you has gone
9770s	about it is very very good because now
9772s	you can even see because the start has
9775s	been a little bit slow again
9778s	I hesitate to call Ceno predation slow
9781s	but it's not you know three or four more
9783s	Minions on the next turn and that means
9785s	that you has actually been able to use
9787s	the weapon for a little bit of board
9788s	control and is now winning on board uh
9791s	thanks to that filet fighter as well
9795s	weapon coming out now though
9798s	I didn't really get some juice there and
9800s	get some Outcast played which will be
9801s	very very soon indeed
9804s	it's gonna go back to you now
9808s	yeah really important which pirate you
9810s	point this at
9812s	hmm
9817s	you weren't being sarcastic then right
9818s	no it wasn't genuinely was important you
9822s	always sound sarcastic and I was like I
9824s	don't know why you're being sarcastic so
9825s	it is important because one's Undead as
9827s	well one's an undead pirate yes yeah
9831s	and you very specifically just wanted to
9834s	see Pirates there I think I imagine
9836s	there is an argument in some worlds that
9838s	you want to go fishing for a specific
9839s	Undead instead but oh sure not in this
9842s	spot no no I guess it matters which one
9845s	you choose right one way or the other
9849s	still though not looking too bad can
9850s	trade off this one one which I do like I
9853s	think the one two can easily make the
9854s	trade there
9855s	[Music]
9859s	what they like is this a just lock in
9861s	the eviscerate here or something
9866s	probably be done next term with mic drop
9868s	worst case so if you you traded
9873s	yeah yeah so I think a lot of the
9875s	counting here was how much this mattered
9878s	in terms of
9880s	shooting the one one with the 2-2 and
9882s	then going face with the swashburgler
9885s	instead that deals one less damage but
9886s	you have one extra Health on one of your
9887s	minions
9889s	um but I think
9890s	uh you appreciates that he needs to be
9893s	looking for a two-ton lethal setup here
9895s	so even without using the mic drop which
9897s	again remember was kept in the Mulligan
9899s	and now gone basically unused on that
9902s	giant weapon that came down whether he
9904s	can try and find some sort of two turn
9906s	lethal setup and now I think with the
9907s	I-beam haven't been used he's gonna be
9909s	in a lot of trouble here yeah that's
9911s	what three cards
9919s	face outside a very very clutch
9924s	no damage though no direct damage in
9926s	hand means there is now a window a very
9929s	very significant one at that
9932s	[Music]
9937s	it's just gotta be weapon mic drop right
9939s	yeah no other play
9941s	and it's just too much damage to pass up
9943s	because you know you can't lethal the
9944s	mistern right so you may as well start
9946s	stacking the damage next to it as well
9948s	of course have to make a trade there's
9950s	too many little things that could go
9951s	wrong I think
9952s	[Music]
9956s	yeah there are situations where against
9958s	Outcast Demon Hunter specifically you
9960s	would trade individual minions off the
9962s	board here because that reduces the
9964s	amount of attacks your opponent can make
9966s	to buff Rush Minions that is completely
9969s	irrelevant in this situation because one
9971s	they have nothing they'll be able to
9972s	attack face with you afterwards and two
9974s	you're at four so if anything is able to
9976s	attack you in the face you're dying
9979s	the chance of workouts now
9982s	it's only like dark Raven right because
9986s	the weapon dead anyway doesn't matter if
9988s	Glade Tire's drawn no it's dead
9991s	is it only dark Raven with like
9994s	something else to rush
9996s	because I'm thinking it's you thinking
9998s	can I push this two phase oh in terms of
10000s	leaving the two two up yeah yeah dark
10002s	Raven is one of the few punishes for
10004s	that yeah yeah
10005s	again because it's such a such a tight
10007s	game it's something to think about right
10009s	and I'm sure that's what you were sort
10010s	of thinking about and counting up there
10012s	because if you can push an extra two and
10014s	then just say well I'm dead to the same
10016s	things whether I push two or not you
10018s	take that two extra damage yeah I think
10020s	the fear then also just becomes uh
10024s	I guess you've got to give additional
10025s	outs for like Wayward Sage into and
10028s	you've generated three damage right like
10029s	that kind of stuff as well oh I guess so
10031s	true yeah
10035s	the damage Stacks are so quick from that
10038s	yes it does
10039s	oh Draco says huge
10042s	dread corset is such a big deal because
10044s	the remaining direct damage there's what
10048s	one predation but then there's dispose
10049s	of evidence and the second glaivetard
10051s	those are the things that are dealing
10052s	damage from off board
10054s	so is this like Jolly if this if this
10060s	corset
10061s	oh
10063s	yeah I know I don't like it just asking
10065s	if that's the case
10067s	because it's all that fits right because
10069s	you don't want to play corset and leave
10071s	a minion up because you're dead to the
10073s	same stuff we did to life oh sorry sorry
10075s	more stuff yep
10078s	all right look away
10084s	oh
10086s	hey look when it comes to the spring
10087s	championships you do what it takes this
10090s	is a real Look Away moment but it is
10092s	absolutely what's necessary
10095s	I think about holding the swing
10099s	the
10107s	gives more Mana next turn like more
10109s	wiggle room right
10115s	[Music]
10118s	wow
10120s	wow how is this this close
10124s	oh it's the Hollywood pass you can tell
10128s	how demoralized it is because he didn't
10129s	impress the demon on the hero power
10131s	button
10134s	foreign
10136s	[Music]
10143s	about right now you're very confident
10146s	you can just get enough power in play by
10148s	drawing the extra pirate to comfortably
10151s	set up a two-tone leaf
10154s	well uh Suddenly It's the record that
10157s	does anything now
10158s	oh absolutely oh I guess there's a
10160s	hundred cards because it's yeah it's a
10163s	threatened exercise oh here we go here
10164s	we go here we go
10171s	there's only three Mana left glaves Hall
10173s	cannot be played anymore
10175s	fellerin cannot be played anymore
10178s	mysterious middle card
10180s	[Music]
10181s	studies
10182s	studies okay so this comes down anyway
10185s	because it reduces the studies right it
10187s	reduces
10190s	yeah and if you are looking for I-beam
10193s	let's say it wouldn't reduce the I-beam
10195s	anyway yes it's better to do it in this
10197s	order
10200s	pay one manner to produce one manner
10203s	well correct does does generate a card
10206s	but like you said the I-beam is the slap
10208s	in the face of this play yeah the card
10211s	from the studies is pretty much now
10213s	going to be free
10214s	by playing this first and then playing
10216s	the study
10221s	it's like exclusively I-beam at this
10223s	point yeah it doesn't matter so you do
10225s	do it you do do it this way around yeah
10227s	I like this
10230s	and then do you have enough to clear up
10232s	you do right
10233s	yep yep yep yep
10235s	[Music]
10240s	this there's one of this left in the
10241s	deck right there was an abyss the the
10243s	second of this was the door of Shadows
10245s	uh not a door of Shadows uh the shadow
10247s	of demise
10250s	yep
10254s	yep so many options Infuse doesn't
10257s	matter yes you can't kill any of the
10260s	cards off so
10261s	as you need to go on for a card fan oh
10265s	that's not okay
10266s	there's another draw there
10279s	that's one off is that one off yeah
10283s	oh my God
10289s	at least at least Q has good trades if
10292s	he needs them right
10295s	the value trades the whole board away
10302s	of course
10304s	it's washed swash burglar okay
10314s	well again just setting up lethal
10317s	there's an I-beam there's no Exile
10319s	anymore
10320s	there's a little bit more healing
10322s	yeah
10324s	yeah yeah yeah
10327s	oh my God
10329s	would you like more cards
10333s	Exile how is no one dying why is
10337s	everyone still alive what's happening
10340s	Raven they're both being so flashy but
10342s	not getting anything done
10345s	where are the cards that say damage on
10347s	them yeah it's like I'm in a meeting
10349s	where people just talk about buzzwords
10351s	all the time
10353s	could have been an email yeah exactly
10357s	nothing's getting done
10362s	oh my God just now
10364s	how many security people did we hire
10367s	it's endless
10377s	finally finally a gnog
10386s	weirdly enough obviously the Port
10388s	Clinton very important but the other Ivy
10391s	is so big right because yeah 13 now is
10394s	Feels So Far Away
10401s	four seven eight nine right harmonic hip
10405s	hop is deal one damage and then buff the
10407s	weapon right yes it is okay
10411s	[Music]
10415s	what a brutal game those i-beams
10419s	actually coming in super super clutch
10421s	rain was just talking about them but
10423s	then with the harmonic hip-hop draw so
10425s	that's one damage and buff the weapon
10426s	the weapon itself could have found the
10428s	pirate then he had Moonbeam in hand for
10430s	another two damage as well so those
10432s	generated i-beams actually were crucial
10435s	for stabilizing the health total for weq
10437s	there at the end which is absolutely
10439s	crazy
10440s	unbelievable that both of those players
10443s	just essentially found themselves
10444s	hanging around on single digit Health
10446s	with the other insanely damaging aggro
10448s	deck just being unable to get over the
10450s	line against it just a game of digging
10453s	for outs and various methods I think uh
10457s	agency and control right as to how to
10460s	look for the outs what sequence to play
10462s	things in dig from the deck dredge so on
10464s	so forth
10465s	um whereas Wiki was just Wayward sage
10467s	and just playing cards trying to find a
10469s	way to get out of it it just was not
10471s	coming in the end I did like that really
10473s	nice moment of sequencing at the end
10475s	just caught it just he was doing it
10477s	where I said well hang on you're looking
10479s	for exactly I-beam here right so playing
10481s	The Outsider before the I-beam doesn't
10484s	actually ever achieve anything because
10485s	the game's where you win you're
10487s	discovering I-beam here since this
10489s	moment exactly there yes I-beam comes
10491s	down and the fierce Outsider is still in
10493s	hand which means that fears and Outsider
10495s	can then potentially come down the next
10496s	turn and continue to be a Mana discount
10499s	and save you a manner on the following
10500s	term which I think is a very nice moment
10502s	of recognition Under Pressure therefore
10504s	but still 2-2 game five Raven it's all
10507s	on the line if it's as tense as that
10510s	game then we're going to be in for a
10511s	treat yeah it is and I think what's the
10514s	craziest thing was it's not like because
10516s	we've seen this I mean cast long enough
10517s	to see at all but we see it where both
10519s	players are just top decking and they're
10521s	drawing like oh
10522s	it's just a four four or you know it
10524s	just doesn't impact the win of the game
10528s	both players were doing loads of stuff
10529s	right they would
10531s	they would generating cards
10533s	cards none of them were quite get in
10534s	there it was such a tense ending uh to
10536s	that one so like you said it does mean
10538s	that it's just gonna be a one
10541s	of these player so let's get right into
10542s	it it's gonna be the the pirate weapon
10545s	swordfish Rogue on the bottom there for
10548s	Q going up against the priest now for a
10552s	weekend
10554s	double Jolly Roger star is absolutely
10556s	huge though in what will be a battle for
10559s	the board in the early game
10560s	like I said this is one of those
10562s	match-ups where the Pirates are going to
10564s	come into play and honestly you know as
10567s	much as I stand by my words with the
10569s	makeup of the tournament with all the
10570s	aggro majors and aggro Priests and other
10572s	matchups that you are going to play
10574s	you probably will be have to be playing
10576s	for board quite often with this deck uh
10578s	the matchups I think you want to play
10580s	are the ones where you just make a
10581s	massive weapon and go face with it but I
10583s	think you here will be delighted to see
10585s	double Jolly Roger in there
10591s	really awesome okay
10598s	Wiki's hand is not too bad
10606s	ah some some cards
10610s	yeah for a second I thought they fit the
10612s	pool it did look like it was it all
10614s	picked this is the easy mind eater ever
10619s	some people just have the Infectious
10622s	gorging you know like they just have to
10624s	play that card
10626s	okay
10630s	hurricane
10633s	so nice again the priest does have
10636s	access to AOE but it's a little bit in
10638s	the future but for now a week who so Q's
10641s	gonna be able to put on
10651s	uh always makes me happy to see uh
10654s	priest steel cards from the opponent and
10655s	then just be completely unplayable
10657s	that's what we call Justice in the
10659s	business
10664s	yeah that one looks a little bit better
10665s	on this side of the board
10669s	foreign
10674s	[Music]
10680s	where are the attacks going is the big
10682s	question here though I think
10689s	most efficient thing you can do would be
10690s	to send your face into the three attack
10692s	minion but then you are taking three
10694s	which I'm sure is there going to be a
10695s	fear in this matchup we saw already in
10698s	these aggro base matchups just how
10700s	important those Health totals can be
10702s	going into the late game
10707s	yeah it's so tricky
10714s	such a difficult decision the priests
10716s	can either have like a bit more of a
10718s	thirsty style hand or a Ford focused
10720s	hand right and if only you could know
10723s	which one they have because it would
10724s	dramatically impact where this weapon
10726s	goes
10737s	I'm ready for these uh swash Burgers to
10739s	cause Havoc though
10741s	foreign
10743s	[Music]
10746s	got to think about how long this game is
10748s	going as well and whether
10751s	you know using uh dissonant hip-hop in
10754s	that form as the more usable of the two
10757s	is actually worth doing at some point
10758s	over the course of the game obviously
10760s	not here because the Batman term was
10761s	just so strong
10762s	but he's got to decide I think whether
10764s	that card is just gonna sit there and
10766s	never be played or whether he actually
10767s	needs to try and get some value out of
10768s	it over the course of the game
10774s	good
10779s	I wonder
10785s	I think you hear really trying to just
10788s	plan out
10790s	what the future looks like with this
10792s	hands It's Tricky again it's not quite
10794s	the same
10795s	but it reminds me of like you know
10796s	weapon Rogue without the weapon right
10798s	because the weapon would unlock so much
10800s	of this hand and it's just not there
10806s	yes there's the deadly poison that can
10808s	really help out but it still doesn't
10810s	feel great it doesn't no
10813s	it might just be burglar time I think
10815s	you are going to need something just a
10817s	little bit extra to get yourself out of
10818s	this position
10822s	uh no
10824s	yeah that is
10825s	bad for one of them
10830s	no I don't think you're wanting a better
10832s	word at all Raven I think that's exactly
10833s	the right word
10837s	okay not necessarily better but if you
10839s	want a more creative word maybe go there
10841s	but bad pretty much something up I mean
10844s	if he just has the best possible draw in
10846s	his deck for the next three turns
10847s	playing that one eight might actually be
10849s	quite useful
10851s	I'm ready for it you know what I've
10853s	changed my mind best possible outcome
10855s	yeah
10867s	look at all these mind eaters though
10868s	like it's a hugees
10874s	yeah and I think that answers the
10876s	hip-hop question right is I don't think
10878s	there's any real need to get that car
10879s	played at any point because he has so
10881s	much value remaining with the Mind
10883s	eaters that he's always gonna have
10884s	things to do and even using your
10887s	opponent's deck specifically dissonant
10890s	hip-hop is still going to be one of the
10891s	weaker cards that you can possibly get
10892s	out of their deck and uh you may have
10895s	noticed those aren't Pirates
10899s	uh getting a quick check one is some
10902s	knives
10903s	one's an orc one's a goblin none of them
10906s	are pirates right well one is the act of
10909s	dropping a microphone
10912s	it's not actually anything is it a very
10915s	nebulous concept
10916s	look I'm saying what I see so I can do
10923s	so is this just gonna be just throw
10925s	stuff down here there's deadly poison
10927s	with Corsair and swashburger maybe not
10929s	necessarily in that order but
10935s	the weird part as well is we're still in
10936s	the phase of this matchup where both
10938s	players are sort of juggling for
10941s	just control the actual board like okay
10944s	maybe until now and because neither
10946s	plays actually managed to push a lot of
10948s	damage so it's not like one of them can
10950s	say you know what I'm going for it all
10952s	in and just start pressure in I actually
10955s	really really like that option uh from
10959s	you I think
10961s	as much as I was talking about whether
10962s	Wiki is going to use dissonant hip-hop I
10964s	think you specifically want to use
10966s	harmonic hip-hop to win the game right
10968s	like it would be much better for him if
10969s	he was starting with a four base attack
10971s	weapon don't get me wrong but in the
10973s	position that he's in I think big weapon
10975s	go face with minions is gonna be the
10977s	best he can get so in order to do that
10979s	he kind of just has to jam it that term
10981s	while it's in that form even though just
10982s	you know straight up efficiency per Mana
10985s	wise the deadly poison swash Burglar
10987s	play was better I think that card just
10989s	had to get played in that form before it
10992s	flipped the next turn to be able to go
11000s	it's not like it's starting to just
11001s	overwhelm you just a little bit right
11003s	now
11004s	the swashburger's got something magical
11011s	multi-strike
11012s	I mean whack that and the deadly poison
11015s	on go face hope for the best
11018s	is there any other option because I
11020s	don't see it
11021s	it's you go deadly fillet fire mic drop
11025s	right I think instance
11030s	the multi-strike doesn't actually
11031s	achieve that much yeah I mean I was just
11034s	thinking of spending manner honestly but
11036s	yeah I didn't really think about the mic
11037s	drop
11040s	foreign
11042s	coming back the other way so you're dead
11044s	to five but there's no way to not be
11046s	dead to fight I guess if you're using
11048s	the filet fight you can just shoot the
11049s	three one and then you are alive to most
11051s	things you're still Minecraft right so
11054s	you still might drop yeah
11056s	hello
11059s	[Music]
11061s	hello hello
11067s	is it me you're looking for yes
11069s	eviscerated was exactly you
11072s	do the thought your right hand
11077s	well this is huge now suddenly
11080s	miku's just dead just dead
11084s	come on it's not really again just like
11085s	the bad thing there's not really any
11086s	other good ways to phrase this
11089s	deceased stop listening he is an X
11092s	priest
11099s	s
11103s	yeah look at you just already locking it
11106s	in is he a missing first
11112s	come on
11116s	foreign
11116s	[Applause]
11123s	relief the two cards from the mic drop
11126s	specifically dread Corsair for
11128s	additional security so you had basically
11130s	no hope no fear of dying on the
11133s	following turn fillet fighter down the
11135s	3-1 put the 3-3 on in the way tanking a
11138s	decent amount of damage at that point
11139s	and then the eviscerate for that extra
11141s	security
11142s	once again made a liar out of me I said
11145s	if you got the best draw into the best
11147s	draw into the best draw playing title
11149s	Revenant on eight might just end up
11150s	winning you the game and I think there
11152s	were moments where you saw you counting
11155s	that right you saw him going over his
11156s	cards okay this one six this on seven
11158s	Revenant on eight maybe I get there but
11161s	finding that of this off the mic drop
11163s	just meant that it ended on seven at
11165s	total revenue did not come into play at
11167s	all massive swing in the end and I think
11169s	huge relief for Q as well because I
11171s	don't think that's really the matchup uh
11174s	he was looking for against other aggro
11176s	decks with the lineup that he'd gone for
11179s	again I think just in time as well
11180s	because the uh like the weapon I was
11183s	talking earlier on without the weapons
11184s	having for a dagger that wasn't
11187s	achieving anything but just picking up
11189s	the weapon just in time and we can see
11191s	almost exactly just in time to get
11193s	enough swings in to make it work and get
11195s	the damage there and again very similar
11197s	to the weapon Rogues of past uh being
11199s	able to just if you can just make it in
11202s	time the damage Stacks so quickly that
11204s	you run away with it but welcome back
11205s	lorindo what do you think of that match
11207s	that was incredible um every minute of
11209s	that I had no idea who was going to win
11211s	which made prepping for this part quite
11213s	difficult but as a bigger picture fan as
11216s	a Fino fan
11218s	um this is really bad news for uh
11220s	banterface as well as Wiki the bigger
11222s	picture is those two are both tied on 21
11224s	points this year game RPGs long way back
11228s	on 18 already
11229s	so now banterface and weak you have both
11231s	been knocked out and there's only one
11234s	America's spot for the world
11235s	championship so they're gonna be
11236s	fighting each other they both wanted
11237s	each other to win this tournament so
11239s	they could just Freewheel for the rest
11240s	of the year
11241s	they've got to go for every single point
11243s	they are looking for rank one finishes
11245s	now to fight each other out of this and
11247s	yeah on top of all the obvious stuff
11249s	that's going with this tournament that
11250s	America's region spot which is close to
11252s	my heart is you know we're gonna have an
11253s	America's world champion this year
11256s	um
11257s	excuse me that was dismissive chuckle is
11261s	the answer to that
11262s	yeah why did I try this with ravenous
11264s	subtle in the room I don't know but yeah
11267s	one after like eight years of just
11270s	presenting you facts and data and Europe
11272s	just winning more by a lot and you
11275s	continuing to argue it we've reached the
11277s	point where I'm just gonna roll my eyes
11279s	and dismiss it it's just not worth
11280s	challenging anymore
11283s	so which European's going to win then
11285s	subtle
11286s	which European's going to win Worlds the
11288s	world's this tournament both I mean the
11289s	win of this tournament let's say
11291s	the advantage right the answer is pocket
11294s	train for all questions so it didn't
11296s	really matter I suppose what Clarity
11298s	clarification he learned his modesty
11299s	from you I hear yes yeah very much so
11302s	yeah
11304s	um but that round is in the books and um
11306s	we are going to try and get a winners
11309s	match after this one before we go into
11310s	the the final round of games where we're
11312s	going to try I believe and show every
11314s	elimination match which is is good which
11316s	means I think it was Ill but two players
11318s	eliminated from the tournament during
11319s	the course of this event that's that's a
11321s	big increase so we are going to go to
11322s	break now and get that all set up for
11324s	you uh so we'll be back in just a moment
11326s	with people starting to get into day two
11328s	which is what we all came to see
11333s	foreign
11336s	[Music]
11349s	[Music]
11360s	[Music]
11382s	[Music]
11405s	foreign
11410s	[Music]
11415s	[Music]
11429s	[Music]
11442s	all right
11461s	[Music]
11478s	foreign
11493s	[Music]
11506s	[Music]
11516s	[Music]
11518s	thank you
11525s	[Music]
11536s	[Music]
11544s	[Music]
11549s	[Music]
11557s	[Music]
11564s	foreign
11566s	[Music]
11572s	[Music]
11593s	[Music]
11610s	[Music]
11619s	[Music]
11624s	foreign
11626s	[Music]
11630s	foreign
11635s	[Music]
11661s	[Music]
11672s	[Music]
11687s	thank you
11690s	[Music]
11701s	foreign
11705s	[Music]
11751s	fingers
11764s	welcome back everyone we are ready to go
11766s	with our next setup of matches here I'm
11769s	Raven joining me of course is TJ and
11771s	Edelweiss going to be bringing you some
11772s	of the matchups here at TJ we have
11774s	requimm versus Levick coming up in this
11777s	winners match uh you seem shocked you
11780s	seem surprised you seem happy I'm not
11781s	sure what those emotions are on your
11783s	face but how you feeling about this
11784s	matchup
11785s	All the Above All the Above emotions
11788s	also like still I'm so close
11792s	at the same time
11794s	I know we're very we're very close uh
11797s	button heads
11798s	um yeah I know this one this one should
11800s	be good I know it's it oh I I can't move
11804s	a little bit if I just you know
11806s	I'm gone I just leaned back and I'm gone
11809s	um I feel like we're on some sort of set
11811s	of like uh guess who I don't know if you
11813s	guys have that game over on your end of
11815s	town but uh when we flick down the
11818s	little pictures of people when you ask
11819s	questions to describe them I feel like
11821s	that's where we're about to set up as
11822s	but uh getting back to the point as you
11824s	do like to derail a couple of times in
11826s	TJ at Levick versus requip in this
11828s	winners match up there did did you
11831s	expect these two players to go through
11832s	into winners and uh who do you expect to
11834s	do well here
11835s	oh yeah
11837s	um I expected this uh both players an
11840s	insane amount of experience Levick was
11842s	probably the breakout star of the
11844s	official competitive system for 2022 uh
11847s	I would say and then requiem's been
11850s	grinding for a while and it's been cool
11853s	to follow requests like uh journey
11857s	through qualification over the course of
11859s	the beginning of this year
11861s	um because you can follow along with
11863s	them when he streams so I'm excited to
11866s	see this one
11867s	another device like uh now we've had a
11869s	few matches done on stream and you know
11871s	you can see what the players have
11872s	brought here are you expecting anything
11874s	crazy is there any particular deck from
11876s	any of these players that's a highlight
11877s	for you that you're going to keep an eye
11878s	on is there one player that's got a step
11880s	above the other Maybe
11882s	well I was sad to see tonsoku and the
11885s	interface have to face off against each
11886s	other tansoku taking the win there I
11888s	think the most interesting deck brought
11890s	is gyu's weapon Rogue now the one
11893s	different Rogue being weapon instead of
11895s	miracle and I didn't think it had much
11898s	of a shot against the aggro decks on the
11901s	opposing side there I think it is mostly
11903s	there to face Relic demon Hunters so
11906s	we'll see how it is able to match up
11909s	against the remaining people in this
11911s	event but I'm very excited that it
11913s	managed to sweep through
11914s	yeah and and TJ when we've been looking
11916s	at bands I personally was going into
11917s	this tournament just assuming death
11919s	knight was going to be Mass band we've
11921s	seen a couple of frost dks so out so far
11924s	do you think that's in the correct
11926s	decision from players that have been
11928s	leaving say DK up for a matchup or do
11931s	you think Frost DK is too dangerous
11934s	ah the line of dependent right I mean
11937s	obviously
11938s	um Frost death knight was on everybody's
11941s	radar uh coming into the event
11944s	um whether it's a deck that's going to
11946s	be brought by them or whether they're
11948s	gonna have to face it from their
11949s	opponents just because it's strong at
11951s	basically every level of play so I'm
11953s	sure that the players are leaving it up
11955s	in their testing or in their strategy
11957s	for building their lineups uh figured
11960s	that they would have an answer for it
11962s	and then you know I think the big
11964s	surprise to everybody is blood death
11965s	knight and maybe it's lack of presence
11968s	in the meta game
11971s	um because you know everybody it's the
11973s	number one Tech to complain about right
11975s	now right is the blood death die maybe
11978s	that'll change
11979s	after uh you know the weekend as meta
11982s	starts to shift still very new
11985s	um but only two players brought it one
11987s	of them's already eliminated and then
11989s	the other one we're gonna be seeing in
11990s	this matchup so
11992s	yeah and uh this is well I advice how
11994s	are you feeling about Druid some of the
11996s	players have been bringing that because
11997s	druid
11998s	felt like it was going to be brought but
12000s	then we've seen it's been generally you
12003s	would say targeted like do you think
12004s	through your Druid players can get the
12006s	work done
12008s	you know the Druid that I expected to
12010s	perform the best against the aggressive
12012s	decks people have brought was surrenders
12014s	and surrender is now eliminated from the
12016s	event so I think some of these Druids
12018s	may end up struggling against these
12020s	aggressive decks there is a lot of armor
12022s	to be had but you do have to spend your
12025s	early turns ramping and without scale of
12027s	inyxia that ability to deal with early
12030s	wide boards is
12032s	not really there and I've heard as we've
12035s	just taken a look at the miracle Rogue
12037s	Lister from Requiem what would you guys
12039s	make of draca because I've heard I've
12041s	seen people on Twitter discuss it like
12043s	yeah you never put draca in the deck and
12045s	we've seen some people bring Miracle
12047s	Rogue with and some people without I
12048s	don't know if either of you two here
12050s	I'll pitch this one to both of you as to
12052s	whether you have been played much of
12054s	Rogue whether you're a fan of Draco or
12056s	not in the current meta
12057s	[Music]
12060s	to run two five Mana cards and it seems
12062s	everyone's brought Azara I don't think
12064s	there's anyone who brought Draka instead
12066s	of azshara
12067s	and that can just be a little
12070s	challenging for a deck that wants to be
12071s	filled with inexpensive cards so we'll
12074s	have to see how the Draka Bringers
12076s	perform versus the non but it does give
12079s	you a little bit of an edge in certain
12081s	match-ups you know something like a
12083s	relic Demon Hunter where you can have
12085s	this off board damage that you can just
12087s	keep swinging uh without giving the
12089s	minions to heal off of
12091s	yeah what do you think TJ I know you've
12093s	played uh or you have played a decent
12095s	chunk of America Rogue in the past but
12096s	uh would you play drakka now do you
12099s	choose to step away or is the fact that
12101s	not many people are playing it a reason
12103s	to bring it because they're not
12104s	expecting the weapon
12106s	no I I it's it's a little too clunky in
12110s	in the deck I feel I played around with
12112s	it
12113s	um and
12115s	you in theory on paper you'd say yeah I
12117s	need another payoff card right I can't
12119s	just rely on graveyard for my giant
12121s	turns I need some one more thing to kind
12125s	of reward me for playing a bunch of
12128s	cards in a turn right
12131s	um but if you want to have sort of that
12133s	weapon Style
12135s	gameplay to sort of go over the top and
12138s	have that big weapon that keeps swinging
12140s	then you might as well just play the
12141s	weapon Rogue right if the meta is
12145s	um asking you for for that answer
12147s	uh so I don't know I feel like the
12150s	miracle Rogue without Draka fits sort of
12154s	this it's
12156s	like faster than the control decks but
12158s	slower than the agradex kind of feel
12162s	um and I think that that's its that's
12164s	its thing I don't think that adding
12165s	draca to it really uh changes too much
12168s	except for maybe giving you a little bit
12172s	of an extra Edge in specific matchups
12173s	and just while waiting to get into the
12176s	uh the next match that we uh we all set
12178s	you know before anyone's too worried we
12180s	uh we are getting the match ready don't
12181s	you worry I'm worried Raven I'm really
12183s	worried because you're still here and if
12185s	you're still here that means we're not
12186s	casting Hearthstone
12187s	I can leave I think I think I can leave
12190s	oh I think we actually go check out the
12192s	brackets never mind
12193s	I'm stuck I'm stuck I'm stuck squished
12197s	next to you guys which uh you know it's
12198s	fine it's fine uh we can check out
12200s	grouper B here
12202s	um Casey of course we saw what feels
12204s	like a while ago now uh on stream uh
12206s	backed up by some nice music gamer rvg
12208s	there as well in that sort of a winner
12210s	section uh with Sally I don't even want
12212s	to look at this I wish we didn't go to
12214s	the bracket now because I just can't
12215s	look at surrender's little face in the
12217s	elimination oh it's been eliminated it
12220s	hurts my soul as one of my favorite
12222s	players of all time of hearthstone but
12224s	uh you know what do you guys make of
12225s	this bracket so far
12230s	well we saw Casey take that win over
12233s	surrender and gamer RPG uh you know
12235s	ladder grinder I don't think we've seen
12237s	much of gamer in you know tournament
12240s	success so they're really going to get a
12242s	chance to prove themselves here where
12244s	instead of qualifying into a massive
12247s	tournament it's just straight to the top
12248s	16. so very different setting from what
12251s	they're accustomed to qualifying into
12253s	and I think they're happy with around
12254s	one win in this group C we have a pocket
12257s	train versus Walder I think it is and uh
12261s	Han soku managing to take that win over
12264s	banter that was another tough one for us
12266s	to watch but uh you know it's it's fun
12272s	you happy TJ
12274s	hey I'm also a big MC interface fan
12278s	um
12279s	uh but you know back in the day though
12281s	his old stuff uh none of his none of the
12284s	new stuff that he's been coming out with
12286s	but one of the best DJs in the
12288s	Hearthstone scene yeah what did did you
12291s	go mainstream and they just got worse
12292s	two yeah two two mainstream for me you
12295s	know back when M.C bannerface was you
12297s	know one of those uh underground uh MCS
12300s	you know back in the the 50 viewer days
12304s	uh you know that's that's when I tuned
12306s	in uh but this is other people like yeah
12309s	once other people like what you like TJ
12311s	you just don't like it anymore it's not
12313s	cool right so it works that's right yeah
12315s	well one thing that was a surprise
12317s	though TJ was like this group to me did
12319s	not see this coming all right you've got
12320s	me smile and Hemlock making it through
12322s	and then we have a meaty yala in the
12324s	first elimination so y'all are taking
12327s	the win over BT so the meat man's gone
12329s	uh but y'all are still not safe right
12331s	still has to you know get work done
12333s	again and um and it's I was saying to
12336s	Saul earlier it's kind of weird for us
12338s	because we're so used especially in you
12339s	know Europe being grandmaster's history
12340s	of geologists consistently just getting
12343s	the wins done and uh yeah really
12345s	surprised group for that group dude
12347s	yeah we always say it's surprising but I
12349s	think it's always sort of refreshing as
12350s	well when we get some of the newer names
12352s	taking over and defeating the ones that
12354s	we are just accustomed to seeing time
12356s	after time so
12359s	maybe there will be an Upstate maybe
12360s	we'll get uh you know a new Victor an
12363s	unknown name that gets to really show
12364s	them prove themselves yeah I mean I
12367s	remember when we saw bunny Hopper sort
12370s	of rock up to a championship and do
12372s	really well that was a fair few years
12374s	ago now and then you know of course
12376s	little Aquarius now so it's always good
12378s	to see new names it's just definitely
12379s	weird especially coming from the Grand
12381s	Master System in previous years when
12383s	we're seeing you know players just week
12385s	in week out just perform and then
12387s	suddenly it's like oh the two players
12389s	that you'd expect to have done really
12391s	well in the group uh just get knocked
12393s	out there so it's a little bit of a
12394s	rough one just to give you guys an
12395s	update and we are waiting for just one
12397s	of the players just to get ready and
12398s	make sure everything's all good to go
12400s	and we don't want any issues mid-series
12402s	of course but has there been any major
12404s	surprises for you so far TJ anything you
12407s	weren't expecting to see
12409s	hmm
12411s	just anything in life that surprised you
12413s	recently
12415s	you tell me I'm trying to think anything
12417s	today that's been surprising but it
12420s	hasn't really been right a lot of the
12422s	matchups that we've seen on stream have
12423s	been pretty close
12425s	um the uh weapon Rogue has been
12429s	uh interesting to watch
12433s	um in in terms of you know we don't get
12435s	to see much of it there were obviously
12437s	uh what was the tournament called uh the
12440s	French tournament salary invitation yeah
12443s	the solar Invitational uh there were
12446s	some there
12447s	um but that was like so new I was like
12449s	there's no way this deck like sticks or
12451s	get or gets refined you know there's so
12453s	many decks in there that I was like
12455s	meta's too fresh none of this stuff is
12457s	gonna make it in its current state uh
12460s	into the the Master's tour uh later on
12463s	um but turns out it did find its Niche
12466s	and a lot of uh lineups tended to go
12468s	more of the uh sort of aggro Direction
12472s	um I guess you know the shadow priest or
12475s	Undead priest sorry is more towards the
12478s	uh board-based aggro but uh damage from
12481s	hand seems to be very good in uh some of
12484s	these uh slower matchups and if you can
12488s	do both like Frost death knight that's a
12489s	that's a bonus
12491s	yeah if you can just do everything great
12493s	it does look like now as a production of
12496s	nicely shown us that their players have
12498s	returned uh I believe uh if you want to
12501s	uh throw some blame anywhere I believe
12502s	it was wreck one it was late because we
12504s	saw Levick earlier on uh so you know
12506s	Levick always on time there sorted out
12509s	so I'm excited for that looks like we're
12510s	getting closer and closer to getting
12511s	into this match so we'll have to wait
12513s	much longer but quickly before I
12515s	disappear off into the night uh if
12518s	you've got a player you you're gonna
12519s	predict to win for both of you I want a
12521s	prediction
12521s	[Music]
12524s	yeah tough call I mean both of them
12528s	excellent ladder Grinders and I think
12530s	Levick is the one I'm most familiar with
12533s	in terms of tournament experience so I
12534s	guess I'd be inclined to to predict
12537s	Levick but recphone's been showing up a
12539s	lot it's a very tough call
12542s	is that is that a Levick Choice then I'm
12545s	gonna lock in on Levick yeah okay okay
12546s	you can't just say Well they're both
12549s	good you can't do my old trick okay
12552s	TJ I was gonna uh lock in on lepic2
12557s	um the only you know big sort of
12559s	question mark I have is uh the at least
12563s	from from what I think the inconsistency
12566s	of the Druid Deck
12568s	um so uh if that hurdle can be overcome
12573s	then I I like Levick for this one
12576s	um and also Levick just always seems to
12578s	show up in these types of moments
12581s	um a lot of the success that Lubbock has
12582s	had recently is has been in these sort
12584s	of 16 player uh you know group uh type
12588s	tournaments rather than big open uh
12591s	Masters tours
12593s	um like if you look at his results in
12595s	what was it Grandma's last call harsh
12597s	and wolf championship
12598s	uh
12600s	like a bunch of semifinals appearances
12602s	so uh I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Levick
12605s	too
12606s	okay well that's sad that's pretty
12609s	interesting people just got not done not
12611s	done the Caster pair thing where you
12612s	just have to pick one the other I'll go
12614s	for you then I'll go for requip even
12616s	though uh he does Rock up a little bit
12617s	like no get out of here Raven no no look
12621s	I'm gonna be right you you end out it's
12622s	time to get into the match now though so
12623s	I'm gonna disappear and leave you two to
12625s	it yeah that's right
12629s	or not no you're leaving there there we
12633s	go okay
12635s	glad we got rid of him but getting into
12638s	game here
12639s	um it looks like it is going to be Drew
12641s	right off the bat uh versus The Relic
12643s	Demon Hunter
12645s	yeah this is you know as we saw earlier
12650s	kind of a toss-up surrender was able to
12652s	get the win with Druid versus The Relic
12654s	Demon Hunter in large part because of
12656s	that massive zoc swing turn so if you
12660s	can get those huge minions in play
12662s	quickly uh Demon Hunter damage based
12665s	removal is not always able to clear
12667s	something like that but we'll see if
12669s	there can be a repeat of that scenario
12671s	or if this time the Demon Hunter will be
12675s	sort of on the offensive
12677s	[Music]
12680s	let's take a look at the opening hands
12682s	for both players you're basically just
12684s	looking to ramp up the relics uh pretty
12687s	quickly from the Rolex Demon Hunter side
12689s	and put on pressure uh big relic of
12692s	phantasms anything on board
12695s	uh don't let the Druid basically just do
12697s	whatever they want ramp up the hero
12698s	power ramp up the Mana and try and put
12701s	on that pressure before they can make
12702s	that big
12703s	like stats turn
12706s	that you don't have enough removal to
12708s	deal with
12711s	and something I want to note about levix
12714s	Druid here is he has opted for a list
12717s	with street sweeper instead of the
12721s	mishmash Mosher attorney at law clear so
12724s	by taking out those cards and just
12727s	having street sweeper uh
12731s	provides sort of other forms of
12733s	flexibility within the list because
12734s	those aren't taking up four slots there
12737s	is an Etc which still has crazed
12739s	Alchemist and smothering starfish and
12742s	Deathwing the Destroyer which is not a
12745s	card that we get to see too often these
12746s	days nope not at all
12749s	uh but yeah the um it does feel though
12753s	that that combo the attorney at mall
12756s	um
12757s	uh Miss martial it
12759s	those pieces individually in a lot of
12762s	matchups just kind of take up hand space
12763s	it feels
12765s	so I'm kind of in favor of of this style
12768s	of list not saying that the street
12770s	sweeper is going to be super valuable in
12774s	this matchup in particular but it does a
12776s	lot of room for some additional armor
12777s	with the uh
12780s	I would have kindness bleeding is that
12783s	it's pronounced
12785s	who's to say but yeah
12788s	the Titan is plotting
12791s	um of the Druid for for more armor yeah
12794s	which uh definitely can uh come in handy
12796s	in in some matchups and even just for
12799s	setting up swing turns right since it is
12802s	for now for next turn you can sort of
12805s	guarantee with that for the next turn
12807s	but you'll have something for being an
12809s	ubercon pop-off
12811s	holy
12815s	[Music]
12820s	here is that sort of
12823s	it's nice to ramp but it's a little
12825s	awkward with seedsman sometimes going
12827s	from four up to six and now you need to
12830s	figure out something to actually trigger
12832s	the finale on summer flower child it
12835s	might just be an innervate hero power
12839s	yeah I don't think that would
12841s	be too awkward of a turn did you see it
12844s	was what was chosen in the nogling
12849s	never see fast enough and then they're
12851s	tucked far enough into the hands where
12853s	you can't read the text
12855s	unlucky
12858s	um but Relic Vault picked up there's
12859s	only been a single Relic played so far
12861s	so the Fantastic right now are two twos
12863s	oh it was Extinction okay
12866s	well that is very nice to start ramping
12869s	these up again nice clean clear there
12871s	and use of Mana doesn't mean you're not
12873s	getting to use the Vault on this
12876s	phantasms but I think it was just more
12878s	important to wreck them to get those
12881s	stats in play and sort of keep the
12882s	pressure on
12888s	okay
12891s	flower child it is
12896s	[Music]
12898s	it's been kind of strange to see the
12901s	transformation of Druid in this
12904s	expansion because these hero power
12908s	upgrades rather than going into you know
12910s	something really aggressive if they're
12912s	just sort of support cards that now go
12915s	into whatever and so you have access to
12918s	this Euro power that now is Just Deal
12921s	three gain three or the Druid and so
12923s	you're able to clean up something like
12924s	those three threes over the course of
12926s	the game a lot more as long as you're
12928s	able to weave it in
12930s	yeah I think the very beginnings
12933s	of sort of the uh groovy cat free spirit
12936s	Decks that were being built were being
12937s	built with like a more aggressive
12939s	mindset
12941s	um and then I think players realize very
12943s	quickly that they fit way more into just
12946s	these control-ish combo Style
12949s	um decks but it looks like we are just
12951s	going for the big sock right now uh
12954s	obviously very little attack uh but a
12957s	ton of armor gain that turn with the uh
12959s	the under Kings plus the nuprecon so uh
12962s	they're gonna put a wall in the way and
12966s	as you mentioned earlier there is a
12969s	crazed Alchemist in the ETC so uh if
12974s	breakfast doesn't shoot through the
12976s	health of these and etc's picked up then
12979s	Grace Alchemist could end this game
12982s	pretty quickly
12984s	and something to note here I think
12987s	it could feel like a snap decision of
12989s	running these six sixes into the largest
12992s	minions the four fours because you know
12994s	it removes the most power from the board
12995s	but what Levick is doing here is
12997s	actually knowing that we're going into
12999s	Arcanist unleash fell kind of turn right
13002s	because unleash has the life steal now
13005s	trying to keep enough Health on these
13009s	six sixes which are actually able to
13011s	deal the damage and just Leverage The
13013s	121 taunts as you know big walls that
13016s	keep his other minions from actually
13017s	taking damage and hoping to end the game
13020s	with these larger Minions that are
13022s	defended by those taunts
13024s	yeah I think that is just going to be
13027s	game over right yeah too much damage on
13029s	board that was
13031s	um was there a full 30 yeah the hero
13033s	power was at three damage and there was
13035s	27 damage on board so even healing to
13037s	full with The Arcanist unleash felt so
13040s	yeah that's a a good point that you
13042s	brought up that if uh Levick had made
13045s	the trades into bigger stuff would have
13047s	lost
13048s	or not lost but would have lost the big
13051s	means on the board no would have lost
13052s	the game
13054s	yep would have gone on a little while
13056s	longer perhaps and I think something to
13058s	note is we saw the relic of extinctions
13060s	being used early for upgrades which is
13064s	reasonable when you're trying to you
13066s	know Mount your own threats with the
13068s	relic of phantasms and building your own
13071s	boards but it does leave you vulnerable
13074s	to exactly this kind of play where the
13076s	anubricon sock comes out and now you
13079s	don't have Juiced up relics of
13080s	Extinction to actually do the clears
13082s	that you need
13084s	yeah no it's uh the very true and good
13088s	call by Levick to go with the the early
13091s	nubrecon plus zoc combination realizing
13095s	that the the window of opportunity was
13097s	there
13098s	to protect it what are pretty big
13100s	minions uh with just spewing it all out
13103s	on board uh with the giant Health taunts
13105s	so uh the Druid is out of the way that
13109s	was the deck that I mentioned that I was
13111s	the most worried about just because
13113s	you know sometimes Druid feels like it's
13116s	trying to do too much in falter's just a
13120s	little bit right the uh the pieces of
13122s	the whatever combo you decide to go for
13125s	whether it's the uh you know jail or
13129s	Tony combo or just a giant sock combo
13132s	the P pieces just don't uh fit in the
13135s	way you need to win specific matchups
13137s	you give your opponent way too much time
13139s	so and that's a big win to have that
13141s	lineups against the The Relic Demon
13144s	Hunter as well instead of one of the
13146s	faster Decks that Requiem has available
13148s	in the lineup
13150s	and we see wreck them killing that Relic
13153s	Demon Hunter once again
13154s	uh in the hopes of you know hitting
13157s	something better
13159s	a little bit of an awkward draw there
13161s	with the
13163s	Rowdy fan school teacher and fizzle you
13166s	don't really want the mains early I
13167s	think the
13169s	best card to keep is the location so
13171s	that's usually what you're looking for
13176s	anything that says the word Relic on it
13179s	pretty much
13188s	all right we got ourselves a
13191s	a start here all right there's a
13193s	stenographer as well
13195s	so we can have a pretty big ghost coming
13198s	up here
13200s	um
13201s	could be this turn but I think it's just
13205s	a Tempo ostolore and then hold the coin
13208s	and try and go bigger next turn because
13211s	probably looking to try and fit the
13212s	stenographer in as well
13214s	uh with the great on the graveyard turn
13216s	it's not a perfect hand from levik it's
13220s	like it's a little bit awkward there's
13222s	stuff to do and I think that's why the
13224s	estelor just sort of came down on curve
13225s	there because next I think you just play
13228s	the sinstone graveyard while you just
13230s	wait to pick up more pieces like the
13234s	uh
13235s	bone chart that came in the hand there
13241s	okay
13242s	I think this works as well concoctions
13244s	are often your source of card draw so
13246s	this makes sense to me
13255s	hazies can always be fun as well
13257s	because I believe that's uh
13260s	uh three drop hazy in the mix concoction
13263s	and then just a hazy
13265s	normally but maybe not so much in this
13268s	matchup because without the Alchemists
13271s	the concoctions are really slow
13277s	they can be but at the same time like if
13279s	you're drawing a bunch of cards or or
13280s	using hazy to get discounted ones you
13282s	know they can still help you ramp up
13285s	that sort of combo counter very quickly
13287s	I think
13288s	playing the potion Master really nice
13290s	recognition from levik that
13293s	this Demon Hunter doesn't actually have
13295s	a lot of single Target removal so if
13297s	something like an ambulation or uh or
13300s	the unleash valves came out to clear
13302s	it would still give the potions and so I
13305s	think that's why wreckfum just decides
13306s	well you're going to get them no matter
13307s	what I may as well play the school
13310s	teacher try and get something to deal
13311s	with this Ocean Master but so far it's
13316s	still going to be kind of a challenge to
13317s	remove
13320s	[Music]
13323s	yeah
13325s	so this can be a stenographer coming
13326s	down with the second asteroid played
13328s	plus the coin Plus stenographer
13331s	and actually can fit in a potion belt as
13333s	well that would bring it down to the
13334s	full zero so nicely done and uh okay
13339s	catering the potions to what he thinks
13342s	is going to happen chooses already had
13344s	the destroy concoction and hand so
13346s	picked another one to be able to have
13348s	removal for
13349s	say big relic of phantasms
13352s	uh still no no car draw at all in these
13357s	no draw two cards in any of these
13358s	concoctions but a couple hazies a mix of
13361s	damage some board pressure so this is
13364s	still a good amount of pressure coming
13366s	out from levick's side and rectum
13371s	[Laughter]
13373s	you know you don't really need card draw
13375s	if you've got enough card generation and
13378s	once again there is not a great way to
13380s	deal with this future side and there's a
13382s	seven seven besides so
13385s	the only way you could
13386s	prevent giving a bunch more potions
13389s	borrowing something in the noggling is
13392s	Taste of fell and then immolation Aura
13396s	it's really
13398s	not looking Pleasant
13400s	I mean I think at this point like
13402s	killing the puter side it has like
13404s	diminishing returns because Levick
13407s	already has enough potions like there's
13409s	three full concoctions plus a half so I
13411s	don't even care about giving giving over
13413s	anymore I was an IB so you get to use
13415s	that
13417s	yeah it needs to be quick on this
13419s	discover uh because did get the finale
13421s	off uh with the hero power first
13424s	so looks like did get to choose it's got
13427s	the attacking afterwards
13429s	oh my gosh just need the spell damage
13437s	oh that's the Your Divine Shield minions
13440s	have plus two attack
13442s	function there you go this case just
13445s	gonna be itself but
13448s	even going down at that point just so
13452s	much value
13453s	levick's hand right here
13456s	oh geez okay
13458s	I have a deal six
13461s	oh
13462s	it's a clear but you don't feel good
13465s	about it
13475s	just spend all Mana three Unleashed
13478s	spells followed by predation
13481s	uh I think you could go double unleash
13484s	Phil hero power the two now two one and
13488s	then predation oh that's true one yeah
13491s	yeah
13494s	and you preserve at least
13497s	a little bit of an additional resource
13499s	yeah I mean it's it's something
13502s	um
13504s	but the hand's still terrible the Rowdy
13506s	fan is just completely dead in hand
13513s	cleaning concoction just fine unpaired
13516s	still draw two
13517s	[Music]
13527s	oh okay oh
13530s	a little bit of extra burst damage I'm a
13533s	Chad surprised not to see a prep fan
13537s	there just to make a reasonable sized
13540s	ghost to keep the pressure on knowing
13542s	that so many resources have been used by
13544s	wreck them
13545s	yeah
13547s	I guess wants to be able to react to
13549s	something like force rectum to have
13551s	maybe a little bit of a proactive turn
13553s	but if like Dimensions comes out there
13556s	and you didn't build a reasonably sized
13558s	ghost you're probably kicking yourself
13560s	but
13561s	it's a manageable board and now the
13563s	Phantom knives is actually gonna have
13565s	some value
13570s	I forgot about the sun free clergy in
13572s	the deck yeah I think a bit of a nod to
13575s	the aggressive Decks that are appearing
13578s	today uh particularly if you Shadow step
13581s	it can be quite a bit of healing and
13583s	sometimes you need to heal your ghosts
13585s	back up you know people occasionally try
13588s	and clear the ghosts over a couple of
13589s	turns doing some damage earlier so Sun
13592s	Fury killergy can heal them back up and
13594s	eliminate that option
13598s	yeah oh this this is also cool because
13600s	the
13603s	uh the shadow of demise will now be the
13606s	double uh deal three mixed concoction so
13610s	99 goes plus six damage in hand still to
13612s	come
13613s	uh still has the Kane attack I believe
13616s	thinking whether or not whether or not
13617s	to trade
13619s	come on you never trade
13622s	you've got a blazing torch in hand oh
13627s	[Music]
13628s	so rowdy fan can be useful here to get
13630s	the 99
13631s	yeah that's actually huge I mean you
13633s	still don't know what you're doing from
13635s	there but you are able to clear the
13638s	highest power
13640s	mentions which they're discounted at
13645s	four now
13647s	so then you draw Relic Vault and Relic
13650s	Dimensions with the two draws from The
13652s	Relic dimensions and then you push the
13654s	button and go again and find more clear
13656s	has to be exactly that I think yeah or
13661s	close to it maybe has like one one more
13663s	turn or something like that of of taking
13665s	damage because this is a reasonably slow
13667s	turn it's just a setup turn from Lubbock
13669s	oh
13670s	it's it's reduced by three but that's
13673s	still enough to if it was Relic Vault
13675s	plus Dimensions oh no when the reduction
13678s	makes it impossible to get the finale on
13680s	Taste of Chaos
13682s	that's unfortunate
13688s	I think this is one of those games where
13690s	the the Grog just kind of grinds out
13692s	with astalor you know Shadow step once
13696s	gives you just so many extra minions to
13698s	play out
13699s	and Levick notably played the sun Fury
13702s	that turn not just to heal up pain but
13707s	also keep that shadow on the mixed
13710s	concoction of six damage
13715s	and also one of the biggest weaknesses
13717s	I've I've felt when playing Relic Demon
13719s	Hunter is
13721s	uh you you it doesn't feel like you're
13723s	you can play well with like limited
13727s	resources like you don't play well off
13729s	the top right because even if you find
13731s	your big hits
13733s	like there's there's no payoff like
13736s	you're you're not going to win the game
13737s	with Lady Steno because you're not going
13738s	to be drawing nearly enough cards your
13740s	zymox is you know never going to be uh
13744s	fully infused so you're gonna have to
13746s	pick one Relic like even if you you're
13748s	drawing perfect things at this point
13750s	Levick it just has time to pick whatever
13753s	he wants from uh uh from like discovers
13757s	and you know potion belts and hold on to
13760s	the resources uh that Daddy needs to in
13764s	order to have answers to everything so
13766s	um you need to have like these big
13767s	swings and in order to have these big
13769s	swings you got to have resources so
13771s	playing off the top just feels terrible
13773s	with the deck yeah very different from
13776s	the Relic Demon Hunter we saw previously
13778s	where you had Jace to at least replay
13782s	all your fell cards and you know you'd
13784s	have some card draw in there right so
13787s	something like that could maybe clear
13789s	the board and draw you some stuff
13791s	but here we are going to see just enough
13794s	damage
13796s	prep bone Spike able to get the
13799s	estelor into play after
13802s	[Music]
13803s	the sex damage
13805s	concoction and that's gonna be it
13809s	yeah
13810s	it's a pretty clean game from Levick to
13813s	go up to zero and a pretty rough draw
13816s	from from rectum you know at the very
13819s	beginning you can look at that opening
13821s	hand and be like okay well you got a
13823s	couple more draws to try and make this
13824s	work but
13826s	just didn't find enough stuff no the
13829s	dimensions came way too late if uh you
13833s	know the dimensions had come like on
13835s	that turn six where Levick had a pretty
13837s	slow turn and then
13839s	uh Reckless could have planned ahead
13841s	with Lady Steno or actually got in the
13844s	finale on the taste of chaos for card
13846s	draw or something maybe it would have
13848s	been uh
13850s	um a little bit of a different game but
13852s	it's rough it's rough and
13854s	now Levick just has the one deck
13856s	remaining what was I'm guessing the
13859s	blood death knight was banned which
13861s	means that it would be the outcast Demon
13863s	Hunter that's left remaining for Levick
13866s	that does sound right Levick the only
13868s	other player besides meaty with the
13871s	blood VK and it is very antiagro there's
13876s	not even a mograin in the deck so it's
13880s	just focused on gaining life and
13882s	removing minions which is pretty good
13885s	against a lot of what's been brought
13887s	here today Outcast Demon Hunter an
13890s	aggressive deck but in some ways an
13893s	anti-aggro aggressive deck since you do
13895s	have access to all those Rush minions
13896s	and the weapon Etc
13899s	not guaranteed but I think it's probably
13902s	better match up than the blood
13906s	well it is going to be blood Decay oh
13909s	looks like the Demon Hunter was banned
13911s	okay
13913s	ain't that always the way
13915s	yeah I I
13918s	wholeheartedly agree with you to be
13920s	honest however
13922s	like in a in a vacuum not considering
13925s	like lineups matchups Etc I do think
13928s	that Outcast Demon Hunter is like
13931s	probably the best deck
13933s	right now
13936s	um if played at like a really high level
13938s	it can be difficult to play because you
13939s	got to know matchups to know when you
13941s	like need to hold on to resources when
13943s	you flood the board like certain
13944s	removals that you need to play around
13946s	like when you can go wide in preparation
13948s	for the uh javaria
13951s	um there's a lot that goes into it but
13953s	uh yeah we are going to get to see the
13955s	uh the blood DK in action
13958s	and the slimmed down version as you
13961s	mentioned which I like the slim down
13963s	version much better you don't have all
13966s	the you know as as the the craziness you
13970s	don't have the extra starting Health but
13972s	um you're more likely to hit your
13974s	vampiric Bloods right
13976s	and more likely to hit just broadly all
13980s	your life steals every fears you know
13983s	it's really all defensive there's not
13985s	even screaming banshee which is an
13986s	incredible card but uh much more about
13989s	you know creating counter pressure
13991s	something I have noticed against Frost
13994s	specifically though is screaming banshee
13997s	can fill up your board and then you
13998s	aren't able to play you know your
14000s	hematurgies or your viziers to look for
14003s	you know Discover Cards to pull you out
14005s	of a tight spot so
14007s	I wouldn't be surprised if that's sort
14008s	of a piece of
14009s	while uh lavik has gone the way he has
14013s	with this list
14015s	and look sometimes you discover Mo green
14017s	anyway
14018s	yeah or
14020s	looks like Patchwork in this case has
14023s	access to Second Patchwork uh other ones
14027s	still on the deck but uh discover one is
14030s	good
14031s	um and
14032s	with dirty rat potentially a double
14036s	Patchwork in this game your minions
14039s	because you play so few of them in the
14041s	Relic theme Hunter are usually very
14043s	impactful so
14045s	um but
14048s	getting the fizzle out now means that
14050s	we'll have access to an extra Steno an
14053s	extra zymox another phantasms I fizzle's
14059s	kind of a difficult card to play like
14061s	optimally because you there's almost no
14064s	matchup that you can afford to look for
14066s	the like to wait for the perfect fizzle
14068s	you just have to take the value that you
14071s	can get when you have the Mana to play
14072s	it
14073s	and hope that that gets there but I
14076s	think this is a pretty decent one yeah
14078s	and I think knowing how much disruption
14080s	is analytics Deck with the double dirty
14082s	rat the patchwork and now as we see the
14085s	extra Patchwork just using fizzle on a
14087s	couple of relics since then oh zymox
14090s	makes a ton of sense to me because
14093s	if you don't
14094s	get a copy of them then you you end up
14097s	losing them to all that disruption so
14100s	the photograph sort of stored in the
14102s	deck can only be taken by a theatar
14105s	which is not in levick's list
14107s	so that snapshot could be very important
14109s	for getting back some of these resources
14111s	that might otherwise get taken away from
14113s	breakfast
14126s	still an awkward turn right here though
14130s	yeah that phantasms
14134s	it feels like I don't even really want
14137s	to play it because gonna Dimensions next
14140s	turn and then if you hit a relic vault
14142s	you have no more relics in hand to be
14145s	able to uh get value from it
14149s	and putting on the pressure and getting
14151s	those relics beat up
14153s	it's always terrible to get into those
14154s	situations where you draw all of your
14157s	relics before your Relic Vault or you
14159s	play all of your Rolex before your Relic
14160s	Vault and then they're just not quite
14162s	big enough because you didn't get that
14164s	double activation but it's gonna go for
14166s	it
14167s	um like we've talked about does have the
14169s	extra phantasms
14171s	in the uh the fizzle snapshot somewhere
14175s	in the deck that'd be good but livex
14178s	just moving up the curve goes right into
14180s	the no muncher then can move right into
14182s	patchwork
14183s	uh and has all the reactive tools
14186s	necessary to deal with what whatever
14187s	requin throws out so
14193s	yep some tough turns I think correct
14195s	from really wants to coin out the zymox
14199s	but it may not
14202s	be in the cards here with having to
14204s	clear that no muncher no mudger is
14206s	obviously an incredible defensive tool
14208s	because it removes right away gains you
14210s	that life and then sticks down a taunt
14213s	but it's also really great on offense
14215s	you know if your opponent has a clear
14217s	board you're just taking five base
14218s	damage every turn in addition to its
14220s	regular attack so it's not really
14222s	something you can leave around
14225s	yeah
14227s	well then what is the play
14229s	[Music]
14234s	some combination of setheno I would
14236s	imagine
14238s	it's a thano maybe Thanos
14241s	coin immolation Aura not even sure that
14245s	does it
14246s	no yeah just gotta it doesn't include
14249s	the no Mantra yeah no comments gotta
14250s	take it you're actually clears the no
14252s	muncher yeah so
14254s	um
14255s	I guess now the
14259s	the
14260s	free Rowdy fan plus that Steno next turn
14264s	and like illidari studies can very
14267s	likely clear but then
14268s	uh well I guess there's another uh Steno
14271s	in the in the snapshot so you can use
14272s	this first one to clear oh ooh zymox
14275s	that one hurts
14277s	all that work to infuse and then it
14280s	comes down
14285s	yep and take ten
14290s	it's something I suppose recphone is
14292s	probably thinking about there in going
14294s	for the dimensions is that well yes I am
14297s	taking 10 yes that sucks but
14299s	this death knight doesn't have mograin
14302s	it doesn't have you know some of these
14304s	other aggressive cards it's really just
14306s	no muncher that's gonna kind of wear you
14309s	down in terms of your own life total so
14313s	Now by getting those discounted cards
14316s	raccoon can go for more of a swing turn
14318s	here in full clear whereas previously
14321s	you'd be spending a bunch of resources
14322s	and not necessarily advancing that much
14328s	um
14330s	this is a lot of damage it is
14334s	I don't think it's
14336s	I don't think it's lethal though uh can
14339s	you go unleash Phil hero power Taste of
14342s	chaos find an another Unleashed fail
14345s	coin and unleash fell how much is that
14347s	that would be two additional damage from
14349s	the Unleashed L plus one two three four
14354s	24 could be slightly off
14361s	uh oh snapshot
14369s	so there will be an opportunity to get
14372s	that zymox back as well as another
14373s	Dimensions to pair with this Vault I'm
14376s	just gonna have to clear out some hand
14378s	space first
14382s	yeah it was a it was a seven card
14384s	snapshot right
14388s	um the quite honest I don't recall there
14390s	was a coin in there yeah there was a
14392s	coin there was a phantasms of Dimensions
14394s	the zymox uh there was a an Arcanist the
14398s	Seno
14401s	um I think the I can't remember if the
14404s	immolation Aura was there or not but uh
14406s	it was pretty it was a pretty full uh
14409s	snapshot and I don't think there was
14412s	another unleash but I don't think that
14414s	really matters too much
14417s	I expect we are yeah just playing The
14420s	Vault not doing the snapshot just yet uh
14423s	to play around something like a
14425s	patchwork which Still Remains
14430s	oh
14435s	[Music]
14441s	that extra soul stealer for if the uh I
14445s	always want to call them Jades if the
14447s	what is it tormented Souls I don't know
14449s	these Spirits get too large
14453s	I don't know what they're called they're
14454s	not just called phantasms they might be
14458s	okay
14460s	all right so I think it was a seven car
14461s	snapshot so I think you can go coin plus
14464s	snapshot and it fill the hand with
14465s	whatever it was left right and then get
14467s	another coin the tricky bit is the zymox
14470s	that was photographed
14471s	was not infused so no matter what rectum
14475s	is going to have to risk it and expose
14477s	it to patchwork
14488s	oh that was a taste of chaos too
14490s	that was the card that I was
14493s	missing sotheno back is quite nice but
14496s	it's not boosted by Rowdy fan anymore
14505s	it's actually still a ton of damage
14514s	but it's awkward because in order to
14516s	clear through the board before you'd
14517s	place the no
14519s	uh you you wouldn't have a target for
14522s	predation afterwards so yeah it's just
14525s	going wide and this will also uh if this
14528s	board is removed which it very likely
14529s	will be would fully Infuse
14533s	uh these imox it's very important to
14537s	sort of do these two things at once
14539s	clear space for a potential ladies
14541s	athano pop-off turn and also fill the
14544s	board because then if they clear they
14546s	can't play Patchwork and if they
14548s	Patchwork you've got a big board of
14550s	stuff to just hit them so very well
14553s	recognized from recfum and I suppose you
14556s	probably go for the zymox here while you
14558s	can
14559s	yeah
14561s	so that mocks while The Relic vault is
14564s	recharging I think uh works out quite
14567s	well right after you saw soul stealer it
14569s	is a little bit disheartening From
14570s	reclin requiem's perspective that this
14572s	was a discovered soul stealer knowing
14574s	that there's a possibility for two more
14578s	uh but you got to put on the pressure
14579s	and Lubbock has also just I would say no
14584s	shortage of removal but Patchwork
14587s	doesn't deal with the whiteboards too
14588s	well the corpse explosion will deal with
14590s	anything with the soul stealer that was
14591s	played last turn there's corpses to
14594s	you know have deal with the biggest of
14596s	the largest of phantasms
14601s	well despite having you know some clears
14603s	here blood boil is not going to be doing
14606s	terribly much in the remainder of this
14607s	game with the size of these ghosts and
14610s	there's not a lot of hard draw so if
14613s	rectum can just keep making board after
14614s	board that Levick is forced to clear and
14618s	there's no time actually to be able to
14621s	play out that Patchwork and hit the
14624s	Savannah so at some point the board is
14626s	going to get cleared and this may be
14628s	that point and so Theta comes down with
14631s	just a massive amount of damage
14636s	foreign
14645s	this may be why rexham did not ban the
14648s	blood is it is typically a good matchup
14651s	for The Relic Demon Hunter just because
14653s	there's so many things that have to be
14656s	disrupted on the side of the blood decay
14659s	yeah
14661s	and I didn't count but I feel like this
14667s	should get there or at least very close
14670s	to it there's a dispose of evidence in
14671s	the noglings that's an extra three
14674s	[Applause]
14678s	being very careful getting all the
14680s	minion targeted spells out earlier I
14682s	like this good sequencing thus far
14685s	then get a whole load of free cards
14693s	oh double predation triple predation
14697s	relic of Extinction yeah
14701s	no
14707s	oh breakfast come on
14710s	you had the win just taking a move on
14713s	don't dab
14714s	yeah you want to be mounting the reverse
14717s	sweep you can't just curse yourself like
14719s	that
14724s	unlucky yeah uh a very
14727s	um I would say obviously it didn't feel
14729s	smooth but I think that was a very
14731s	smooth game from from rectum I feel like
14734s	every step of the way sort of understood
14736s	uh what the game plan was and where the
14740s	strengths and sort of weaknesses of the
14742s	uh of the blood death knight were and
14745s	despite
14746s	uh double dirty rat coming out despite
14749s	the you know full removal all the way
14751s	like the discovered soul stealer corpse
14755s	explosion the no muncher hitting for
14757s	like 20 or something like that uh wreck
14760s	of almost uh still able to uh to get
14764s	there and I think the patchwork was
14766s	still in hand yeah never had the very
14768s	end of that game
14769s	yeah
14771s	so uh good on recording to sort of play
14774s	around it there was one play that I
14777s	think could have been like a Difference
14780s	Maker on turn seven Levick opted to play
14783s	dirty rat instead of Patchwork because
14785s	there was no minion on board I was
14788s	thinking the same and I myself would
14791s	have gone for the patchwork I think just
14793s	because it was seven Mana it winds up
14795s	well dirty rat you can play alongside
14797s	stuff like a soul stealer but it's you
14800s	know easy from from us back here to say
14802s	that
14804s	um not always so much in the game
14806s	and you should say it even would have
14808s	made the big difference no I I don't
14810s	think in the grand schema thing it
14812s	scheme of things it would have but uh
14815s	those are the types of like small
14817s	decisions that uh can have ramifications
14820s	later on
14822s	um like dirty red I feel like there was
14823s	another position where dirty rat could
14825s	have fit in alongside removal like maybe
14827s	on the corpse explosion turn yep
14830s	um
14831s	whereas Patchwork ended up not being
14833s	used at all
14835s	um so you would have given given up a
14837s	little bit of tempo but with all the big
14838s	sweeping removal we had in his hand I
14840s	think it could have made a difference
14841s	but we're moving on gate number four
14842s	levix still up uh 2-1 on Match Point
14845s	here
14846s	and Rec from is going to move over to
14849s	the miracle Road this one
14852s	now with 100 more draca
14856s	and we'll have to see if that Draka is
14858s	important in this matchup I think this
14860s	is one where it very well could be
14867s	a lot of it's going to come down to what
14869s	potions are discovered
14879s	looks like he's not a big fan of blood
14882s	death now right now yeah I think uh
14884s	there's a lot of people out there who
14886s	would agree
14887s	yeah
14889s	some are playing with it some are
14892s	playing against it that don't agree
14895s	and a lot of it is extra vampiric Bloods
14898s	really gets you down
14902s	okay I was about to say
14904s	well it just seems like the better
14906s	option in that one patchwork
14908s	uh not as good in this matchup as uh
14913s	previous
14914s	none of these generate resources
14918s	well
14921s	there we go slimy can generate resources
14924s	in some cases depending on the three
14926s	drop that you get perhaps get an acolyte
14928s	of pain I suppose
14929s	yeah
14935s	Hassler could be important but not just
14938s	yet
14942s	[Music]
14948s	uh and that is very tough just not
14952s	getting
14954s	enough resources to feel like it's worth
14957s	it for
14959s	the location and not enough to make the
14961s	stenographer free
14966s	now this is tempo oh blood tap let's go
14971s	three minutes in hand yeah pretty good
14973s	ones too always feels nice when you can
14975s	buff a no muncher
14982s	ah hard strike I mean that makes more
14984s	sense
14985s	my brain said a heart strike but
14989s	my heart
14991s	well that doesn't make sense because
14993s	it's called heart strike
14994s	no my brain strike and
14997s	I mean look
14999s	it's hard to predict but this is exactly
15001s	the situation where I feel like I don't
15004s	like having both Draka and queen Azara
15006s	picking up two five drops in that
15009s	situation where you're really just
15011s	trying to find cheaper resources
15014s	it's a little bit tough this is
15016s	interesting though I don't remember the
15017s	name of the three drop but I'm pretty
15018s	sure it copies the highest cost minion
15020s	in hand oh no
15022s	yeah that's actually going to be another
15024s	copy of that concoction
15031s	just one off of being able to play both
15035s	stenographers and six six is not quite
15037s	as large as you'd like
15048s	something reckfum could do is pick the
15051s	Colossal minion off of Queen azshara and
15055s	take a 50 50 shot if the oh nope never
15058s	mind it's just being copied now it's
15059s	gonna say you could get an extra copy
15061s	off the uh Mage card there if yeah play
15065s	ajara
15066s	[Music]
15072s	levick's just charging up that Sylvanas
15074s	ready to steal the next ghost
15077s	at this point uh uh what is it is it the
15080s	staff that shuffles cards and draws to
15083s	uh I don't from Queen bashara yeah it's
15087s	like
15088s	tides of something or other
15091s	yeah because I I only know the ring and
15094s	the horn because that those are the ones
15096s	that are ring is picked in like combo
15098s	decks what what about knife you can't
15101s	forget knife Who ah you can forget it
15104s	case in point I I just did
15107s	[Music]
15109s	10 damage so much damage yeah
15118s	I'm a little surprised to see all of
15122s	these come down on a non-ghost turn and
15126s	non-draka turn
15128s	[Music]
15130s	maybe trying to bait out some removal I
15132s	don't know
15139s	[Music]
15141s	I think both defrost and death growl
15144s	have Merit here death growl you can do
15146s	on a chill fall in Baron and it doesn't
15148s	spend any Corpses
15150s	foreign
15171s	picking up faster lore as well makes
15173s	sense
15175s	oh but do you want to do
15177s	ask the Lord here so you can Shadow step
15179s	it
15180s	uh
15183s	if you yeah cause if you shouts
15186s	shout out cold near fight does give uh
15191s	less options
15193s	for
15197s	uh Levick to deal with the board this
15200s	actually now with the double Shadow step
15201s	shuts off corpse explosion
15204s	and coin soul stealer
15207s	can't actually tell is that nine corpses
15210s	or zero uh that is zero I believe so
15214s	yeah I guess I'm a little surprised not
15216s	to see the the shadow of the Shadow step
15220s	saved for astralar but at the same time
15222s	that is 36 damage out of that weapon and
15225s	a massive board that's impossible to
15227s	clear at this moment
15228s	so
15231s	the ghost does get stolen
15233s	and that's going to be pretty pretty
15236s	good discover result for Levick there
15239s	that was picked off of the amalgam early
15241s	on I believe
15249s	anti-magic shell
15254s	that was not even on my radar in terms
15257s	of hiccups from the noggling but seems
15261s	all right in this position
15266s	[Music]
15273s	of the second Shadow step was saved
15277s	it would have been lethal and it
15279s	wouldn't have changed Lubbock's turn
15281s	or the well yeah oh yeah because the
15285s	ghost got stolen anyway
15287s	well you know
15289s	live and learn I suppose yeah no way of
15292s	knowing the big minion would have gotten
15293s	stolen I think it's reasonable to lock
15296s	out all uh spell-based clears there yeah
15300s	um but I don't see a way out
15305s	for Levick soul stealer happens then
15308s	it's just gonna be lethal with the
15310s	weapon
15311s	yeah you can clear the board but you
15313s	can't heal
15314s	[Music]
15318s	at least not enough
15326s	yep weapon deals 12 million deals three
15329s	even with the five life gained not be
15332s	enough and so that's a pretty big
15333s	argument for having Draka in the deck I
15335s	suppose
15337s	yeah
15339s	and the well I mean the queen of shark
15342s	didn't even come down so
15344s	you know uh your your initial argument
15346s	of too many fives still could hold true
15349s	maybe if you're running Draka it's worth
15352s	cutting Queen ashara for something that
15355s	can juice the Draka a little bit more
15358s	um but yeah it was uh I definitely put
15361s	in the work there 24 damage well I guess
15363s	you can count the full 36 because the
15365s	last Wing was would have been the uh the
15367s	lethal blow there uh but now Requiem
15371s	um despite the dab
15373s	is bringing this to a game five
15376s	now quite the comeback we'll see if it
15378s	can manifest into a full reverse sweep
15381s	but uh you know these are always most
15383s	exciting and uh I know people aren't
15386s	keen on blood but I am glad we got to
15388s	see it played a little bit it is sort of
15390s	Representative of a place in the meta
15393s	and we'll have to see if it's able to
15395s	bring it home against the final deck
15398s	which is gonna be the toughest matchup
15400s	for wreck them I believe it is a shadow
15404s	priest or or is it the frost it's Frost
15409s	looks like frost I was like yeah show
15412s	priests on the graphic but um uh priest
15414s	was the band deck at least from what I'm
15416s	looking at on the uh
15419s	on the sheets Death Knight on Death
15421s	Knight
15423s	action here and
15426s	this is where that healing can really be
15429s	quite tough for the frosty kid yeah
15433s	uh Frosty K does have
15436s	like some Sting power with the damage
15439s	they have a lot of
15441s	uh like it specifically there's like an
15445s	empty board for the marrow manipulator
15448s	uh that can deal a ton just the damage
15451s	from all the weapons over the course of
15453s	the game
15454s	but there's the freezing out the
15457s	board-based approach that uh where uh
15460s	Frost death knight seems to shine when
15463s	you can sort of lock up your uh
15465s	opponent's board with the uh frosh worms
15467s	Fury and
15469s	not let them React to what you're doing
15471s	and still push the five damage isn't
15473s	really as relevant against the
15476s	uh the blood Decay because they can heal
15478s	and remove it from hand and usually it's
15480s	just like a five damage and the five
15482s	five doesn't stick ever
15485s	but we'll see
15486s	getting into it
15490s	and the sidekick
15493s	okay pick up but yeah I think this hand
15495s	is just a little bit awkward I'm gonna
15496s	go ahead and get that chill falling
15497s	Baron down
15498s	Bone Breaker is always a tough keep
15500s	because you like the first one for the
15502s	early game but having a second is often
15504s	just
15506s	to feel quite right
15511s	and I'm a little surprised not to see
15514s	the Arms Dealer getting hero power down
15517s	there
15519s	it is going to provide
15522s	considerable additional power here
15528s	yeah
15529s	um
15531s	okay I'm gonna just death strike down
15533s	the five two I was gonna think if school
15535s	teacher comes down here
15536s	that's a lot of damage left up on the
15539s	other side Deathstrike might not be an
15541s	up next turn request playing
15543s	Fast and Furious right now this is this
15546s	is some very quick gameplay and putting
15548s	on a ton of damage very sticky board as
15550s	well there's what two Corpses
15553s	yeah not enough for explosion I'm just
15556s	saying blood boil oh I was gonna say
15558s	just saying blood boil is not a card but
15560s	there it is it is going to
15563s	create another couple of three threes
15565s	off of these eggs so it's not you know
15568s	the perfect situation but I think it is
15570s	still the best play for Levick
15572s	yeah
15574s	yeah still leaves the Rowdy fan but
15575s	Rowdy fan the healing from next turn
15577s	from the riding fan will outpace it's
15579s	the damage that it deals
15581s	oh
15582s	manipulator on curve is something else
15587s	and Gonna Keep Swinging with the Bone
15589s	Breaker as well because the uh uh second
15592s	weapon uh the might of Neville is in
15594s	hand but this is
15597s	ton of damage still coming in no third
15601s	corpse
15605s	next turn could well no I guess I was
15608s	gonna say dirty rap plus horse explosion
15610s	but likely wouldn't be Minnie's again
15612s	even get the extra life off vampiric
15615s	blood so it's got to just be plague
15616s	strike
15621s	interesting
15624s	I think this is a reasonable call saying
15627s	okay I want to soften up some of these
15628s	minions for my follow-up clear uh what's
15631s	the worst thing that could happen on six
15633s	it is mirror manipulator and so pulling
15635s	that out of the hand is pretty huge for
15638s	Levick
15648s	I think just psychic trade it to start
15650s	the turn makes a lot of sense
15652s	for awesome Fury so re-equip with a
15656s	might yep
15658s	yeah try to set up just a ton of damage
15664s	creating a quill board so it doesn't do
15667s	the extra heals
15670s	yeah it's blood DK and wreck Femme was
15672s	smelling blood this game playing fast
15674s	and just
15676s	burning down
15678s	yeah
15680s	so Ken clear
15684s	with the uh
15686s	to get an extra corpse with the nogling
15688s	which has plague strike
15701s	but then there's no way to heal on top
15704s	of it oh what's vampiric blood oh okay
15710s	yeah I think that was why Levick ended
15714s	up playing that dirty rat on the
15715s	previous turn because uh he was selected
15719s	the vampiric blood knowing he needed
15721s	healing and was saying okay well let's
15722s	if I'm gonna be playing this dirty rat
15724s	anyway then I can take the vampiric
15726s	blood and uh hopefully the dirty rat
15729s	could soften things up
15731s	yeah I think it might even be
15734s	I was gonna say
15736s	Zola and then just
15739s	blood again but but uh yeah just for
15744s	them yeah
15747s	this is 7 11 that's exactly 16 right
15751s	with the weapon swing yeah I believe it
15753s	is gonna do it
15755s	wow okay well
15757s	pulling off the reverse sweep my
15760s	goodness you can see the excitement
15762s	there
15763s	and making history
15766s	the first player to ever dab after being
15769s	down to one to come back and actually
15772s	win a series of hearthstone incredible
15776s	the curse is broken
15779s	yeah the curse is broken broken
15783s	a nine-year curse at this point that's
15786s	plagued competitive Hearthstone players
15789s	uh for for the longest time so
15793s	um very nice series
15795s	um I I don't think that like Levick had
15800s	you know a lot of like room for
15802s	improvement right I don't think it was a
15804s	a difference of uh he just wasn't
15807s	playing well enough I thought he found
15809s	some pretty cool spots with the blood
15810s	death knight it just wasn't good enough
15812s	to get the job done and Rockland's
15815s	decision to actually leave it up in the
15816s	series ended up paying off
15819s	uh because was able to beat it three
15821s	times in a row uh in order to win the
15823s	series so
15824s	uh definitely had some uh some thoughts
15828s	about uh what this matchup would look
15830s	like
15831s	well and with blood being left up and
15834s	some of these games running a little bit
15835s	longer even if it did ultimately get
15838s	overrun that full five game set did take
15842s	us over time in terms of getting to see
15844s	some of the others winner matches so
15846s	we're going to pop over to a break and
15848s	then get into the losers bracket decider
15851s	matches
15854s	[Music]
15856s	oh
15862s	[Music]
15875s	[Music]
15894s	foreign
15898s	[Music]
15944s	foreign
15954s	[Music]
15972s	[Music]
15980s	thank you
15986s	[Music]
15993s	[Music]
16028s	[Music]
16044s	[Music]
16057s	[Music]
16058s	thank you
16066s	[Music]
16082s	thank you
16084s	[Music]
16105s	[Music]
16110s	foreign
16113s	[Music]
16144s	[Music]
16167s	[Music]
16176s	hello everyone and welcome back we're
16178s	ready to jump into the next match and
16180s	just to give you guys a bit of an idea
16182s	of what the rest of the schedule looks
16183s	like we have four matches coming up and
16186s	they're all going to be the decider
16188s	matches so uh a lot on the line here for
16191s	the remaining players basically a spot
16193s	in tomorrow's uh tomorrow's day yeah
16195s	Lorinda so here we go and we've got the
16197s	first matchup coming right up it is
16198s	going to be Levick on once again
16202s	so it's gonna be a pretty crazy one
16204s	overall so looking forward to that one
16206s	and that's the topic we have confirmed
16208s	so far uh with recfam awilda and Hemlock
16212s	so uh again I think you know a lot of
16214s	players will be happy to see a Requiem
16215s	Lorinda but I think Walter and Hemlock
16217s	honestly are some uh you know underdogs
16220s	I would say at least at surface level
16221s	yeah World in particular we've seen very
16224s	little of hemlocks one of those players
16225s	if you watch any of the streams of the
16227s	top players Hemlock seems to play like a
16229s	million games of hearthstone a day
16231s	um Hemlock has been on those streams on
16234s	the other side quite a lot but yes not
16237s	not the the MC banter faces and stuff I
16239s	think a lot of people would have
16240s	expected meaty another one that's um out
16242s	today
16244s	um but here Levick interview levik for a
16246s	lot of people would be a big name I
16247s	think to go through he he defined The
16250s	Meta in the death knight matter when
16253s	everyone was playing first DK and
16256s	calling for Nerfs and Levitt just made
16258s	Quest Druid work so along with Saudi to
16262s	be fair
16262s	um and just as the Nerfs came in he was
16265s	dominating with that debt because he had
16266s	worked out a way to to make the meta
16268s	change
16269s	yeah and I think what's interesting here
16271s	you know I got to cast airgue earlier on
16273s	and I think we saw some a pretty crazy
16274s	game with that pirate Rogue of course
16277s	which is going to be pretty interesting
16278s	a weapon Rogue or shelter
16281s	um so there is going to be that weapon
16283s	Rogue around as well uh the Mage in
16285s	there which again is another deck I do
16287s	like
16288s	um and then of course the outcast Demon
16290s	Hunter and the
16291s	end so really interesting lineup overall
16293s	and I think even though a lot of the
16296s	lineups are similar mainly because of
16298s	death knight and Demon Hunter and
16300s	arguably Rogue in general I do think we
16302s	have got enough spies to be uh taken by
16305s	surprise throughout this tournament yeah
16307s	I mean there's a pirate Rogue on our
16308s	screens what is that I mean I have
16310s	actually faced on ladder a few times but
16311s	what is that and I think that um Mage
16314s	was certainly a surprise to me
16318s	and so yeah I think we've seen quite a
16322s	lot more variety than maybe you'd expect
16324s	from a ladder and we're gonna see why
16326s	that is in a minute when we see levick's
16328s	lineup because of The Druids the Druid
16329s	I'm sticking by my guns it's a top four
16332s	deck but it's targetable and a lot of
16335s	the players here chose to not walk into
16338s	that trap but Levick in this match has a
16341s	big Druid sized problem that he's going
16343s	to have to get through otherwise he's
16344s	going to be in trouble
16345s	yeah I think with Druid I think Drew is
16347s	very very strong Druid was actually the
16349s	first deck I played of the expansion and
16351s	rotation
16352s	um I think it's actually like jamboree's
16354s	full sort of face you know uh hero power
16356s	Druid uh with the Lister so you know you
16359s	always go to Jamboree for the Spice yes
16361s	on day one is special
16362s	so um it was it was pretty interesting
16366s	um that Druid is strong I completely
16368s	agree but as you kind of mentioned it it
16370s	can't pull crazy things out of the bag
16373s	right I feel like anyway like death
16376s	knight can do like Demon Hunter can do
16378s	for example so it'll be interested to
16380s	see how that goes overall
16382s	um looking at these though so far uh
16385s	these rogueless again and not will talk
16387s	about weapon Rogue a little bit later on
16389s	but the miracle Rogues as well like
16391s	seemingly you know even now
16394s	more heavy relied on that location as
16396s	well just popping up with the big
16398s	minions yeah and to be fair it did a lot
16400s	I mean Draco was just extra wins before
16403s	which made the deck so incredibly
16404s	powerful take Draco out or have a
16407s	reduced Dragon whichever way you want to
16408s	do it you still got the base there
16410s	you've still got the concoctions which
16411s	are remarkably strong it's all there but
16414s	we didn't see many people playing it
16415s	because everyone was bored of it I knew
16417s	it already worked I didn't need to learn
16419s	it over again because it's 25 26 cards
16422s	the same as it was before
16424s	um
16424s	to find out that top eight by the way we
16426s	looked at gamer rvg has one group b so
16430s	that is the four known quantities going
16432s	through
16433s	yeah really really impressive I'm
16435s	excited to see it again once we get
16437s	through to tomorrow of course we'll have
16438s	that top eight group stage will be done
16440s	and we'll be playing through all the
16441s	matches on stream tomorrow for that top
16443s	eight to Crown a winner and again
16444s	there's a lot on the line right the
16446s	winners just
16447s	I'll say done for the year I would doubt
16450s	the winner would just not play
16451s	Hearthstone until the end of the year
16452s	but the point is if they want to be they
16455s	could be because if they do get that
16457s	world spot which is absolutely huge and
16459s	we're already seeing now what that top
16461s	Eight's starting to develop and look
16462s	like I mean all of the players here I
16464s	you presumably love Hearthstone or at
16466s	least did three months ago
16468s	um they're all going to play a lot of
16470s	hearthstone through the year but you
16471s	miss if you win this eight last day
16473s	scrambling panics that's what you get to
16476s	avoid you still get to play your four or
16478s	five hundred games a month or whatever
16479s	maybe even 800 in some cases like recfam
16481s	but you don't have to sweat on the last
16484s	day you could fall out of the top
16485s	hundred play a meme deck on a ladder for
16487s	a few days to chill you know you don't
16489s	have to constantly maintain that MMR for
16491s	a whole year on top of the money
16493s	available it's a fifty thousand dollar
16494s	prize pool as well but the prize here is
16497s	eight months of not having to have those
16499s	last day scramble you still get time off
16501s	the start of the month they're not going
16502s	to grind themselves into the dirt but
16504s	yeah it's it's a huge huge thing to win
16506s	now I'm going to be interested as well
16508s	to just see how this matchup plays out
16510s	uh one thing is uh that although the
16512s	lineups may have not been a complete
16514s	surprise again as you said based on
16515s	ladder and based on a lot of the players
16517s	that were submitting their lists were
16519s	streaming a lot as well so you kind of
16521s	got the gist of stuff there but some of
16524s	the match-ups we saw like I'll tell you
16525s	now I did not expect to just watch blood
16528s	DK vs Frost DK that was not a matchup I
16531s	thought I was gonna sit here and watch
16532s	this weekend but there we are yeah but
16535s	let's get into this match again just a
16537s	reminder these matchups for the rest of
16539s	the day become very very simple the
16541s	winner moves on to tomorrow the loser
16543s	does not and that's it
16546s	quite understand it Raven how does this
16548s	work yeah I know you need a different
16549s	styles of explanation yeah yeah but
16552s	we'll get to that a little bit later
16553s	well we're basically now in a top 16
16555s	situation where half of the matches are
16557s	finished
16558s	or something something like that sure
16561s	yeah if you and that's why yeah I
16564s	explained things in a simple manner just
16565s	going to remind everyone of fans as well
16567s	uh Goose Demon Hunter is banned out and
16570s	then levick's death knight is Panda not
16573s	too much of a surprise with this kind of
16575s	aggro lineup yeah I'm talking about this
16579s	pirate book I'm gonna confess I don't
16581s	know the matchups very well but I do
16582s	know that
16584s	um when we watched goo before these
16586s	matchups seemed really close and he had
16588s	a lot of outs to win with this deck in
16590s	every single game and he did win with it
16592s	in one of them yeah I think there's a
16594s	big worry right now with the 2-5 on
16596s	board that's um in these sort of aggro
16599s	mirrors you don't want a high Health
16601s	minion sticking on board right to just
16603s	start like getting multiple trades off
16605s	and really ramping up that value so I
16609s	think he's gonna have to work out how to
16611s	take this down pretty quickly so weapon
16614s	does have dread corset does have a
16615s	viscerate so there are options it's just
16618s	how he wants to go about it yeah so he
16620s	can either door eviscerate or he can
16622s	ignore it for the whole game and just
16624s	see if he can win by hitting Levick in
16625s	the head
16627s	oh I mean I'll confess my weapon Rogue
16631s	skills are not exactly on point at the
16633s	moment yeah I would be terrified of
16636s	leaving the 2-5 up here yeah I would too
16638s	I think it's way too early this is the
16639s	the other way it makes sense of course
16641s	but yeah I was kind of hoping that he
16643s	just sat there counseling on his fingers
16644s	and went I've got four turn lethal and
16647s	they can't kill me in Fort says I'm
16648s	gonna hit them but no things that look
16651s	sensible usually are unfortunately
16667s	continue to battle
16670s	and we saw this in the previous round
16672s	when he was streamed that uh this can
16674s	fight on the board for much longer than
16676s	you'd expect even against the
16678s	overwhelming pressure that's coming from
16680s	the other side
16682s	insane
16687s	imagine if the nerves had a saying
16689s	actually because the sage doesn't really
16691s	hit anything that crazy but still this
16694s	was pretty good I'll say I'll finish it
16696s	pretty good
16699s	and put a million things on the board
16702s	and come in for eight million damage
16712s	um
16714s	oh he'd had to have discarded the other
16717s	thing
16718s	yeah okay it's fine I'm being stupid but
16721s	I see a slitherspoon that costs zero
16723s	shuffled away and I'm like yeah I need
16726s	to at least question that for a second
16727s	but yes that makes sense you have to
16729s	throw the other one away so yeah
16733s	and again both players heavily
16734s	respecting the board in this early game
16736s	right and we've seen this happen time
16737s	it's kind of a staple of these sort of
16740s	Minion aggro mirrors right even though
16741s	all the way back in the original days of
16744s	zoo mirrors first off is heavy heavy
16746s	heavy battle for the board and then as
16748s	soon as someone takes that one step
16749s	forward the game explodes yeah I would
16752s	argue as well that's almost how the
16754s	whole game is at the moment like even
16756s	blood DK's putting two twos and annoying
16759s	four fours and stuff on the board and
16760s	the Egg sometimes and locations
16763s	sometimes makes a Yeti for you even the
16765s	control decks now are doing half of
16768s	their work by controlling the board with
16770s	minions on the board as well as their
16773s	obviously massive Suite of removal
16775s	spells
16777s	foreign
16791s	no not at all
16795s	it's two and two
16797s	he really doesn't want to waste you know
16802s	oh goodness
16805s	everything after that it seems so
16807s	he doesn't like his panicked although he
16809s	doesn't look like he's panicked all day
16810s	to be fair yeah everything happened
16811s	these look so relaxed and even when it's
16813s	like you're fully counting up didn't get
16815s	the swing off he did aim but that might
16817s	have been his choice
16819s	yeah he may just have changed his mind
16821s	halfway through there's a long way to go
16823s	in this game he's got a lot of stuff and
16824s	his opponent does not but yeah we know
16826s	that the outcast the age is always one
16828s	card away from just going crazy and I
16830s	think the idea here is well you knows
16833s	that lavix obviously had no cards until
16836s	the the draw of the top that turn so
16838s	what's the worst case right maybe a five
16841s	five gets dropped or something right so
16843s	then you could have this the option to
16845s	just swing into that and kill it instead
16848s	and then still carry on so I don't mind
16850s	the hold whether it was intentional or
16852s	not and this still you to have a lot of
16855s	options
16856s	a huge amount of respect to that too too
16860s	so I like it though because what yeah
16862s	drawers are gonna beat this board
16864s	they're actually aren't too many when
16867s	you consider it's just too fast see like
16869s	predation ass I think you must be sat
16872s	thinking what is that other card
16875s	yeah
16876s	you could see it like him think it's you
16878s	know exile for example where it's like
16880s	where you need outcasts
16882s	we've got a huge minion Raven
16890s	let's make
16896s	wow it's just 11 12. yeah just like that
16900s	and so suddenly we're looking at this
16902s	Rogue take another win bit more of a
16904s	straightforward one than we saw on
16905s	stream a little bit earlier but I
16907s	wouldn't nonetheless and that was uh
16909s	pretty clean and I think I think just
16911s	had one of those one of those games
16913s	where there was no actual cycle there
16916s	was no card generation and you got a
16918s	little bit but again wasn't quite enough
16920s	when we saw you just really fight for
16922s	the board
16923s	yeah and he set it up knowing that he's
16925s	got a Divine toll in hand right so he
16926s	knew he was going to be able to I'm
16927s	going to visit your tutu because my
16929s	thing's gonna be even bigger if I do
16931s	that and then how are you killing it 11
16932s	12. I mean
16934s	you definitely can don't don't write in
16936s	and say hey but it's not happening very
16939s	often even in that day
16940s	exactly yeah it's a really a cool
16942s	matchup again I think the big problem
16944s	here is just look at this state of the
16947s	board Levick has zero cards in hand but
16949s	he's winning on board but you had like
16951s	hard draw removal menu and that sort of
16955s	divine toll plan for the late yeah I
16958s	guess so that was the big issue it was
16960s	clearly just resources putting out and I
16962s	think again when you look at the
16964s	difference for me you had the weapon to
16966s	be able to just trade or go face as he
16969s	willed it Levitt did not and the weapon
16973s	the Glam Tower would have been a huge
16975s	difference if I think had hold of that
16976s	because even if it drew two cards and
16978s	you get two swings of a four damage
16980s	weapon not get that match it looks very
16982s	good
16984s	yeah that's bad bad news for Levick when
16986s	he's still got that Druid on his side
16988s	like he needs to take some of these
16989s	decks down so the Druid doesn't have it
16992s	all to do um
16993s	yeah
16997s	and then rightly or wrongly again this
17000s	uh Rogue is a bit of a surprise factor
17002s	for me but if that Rogue is taking wins
17006s	there must be a small part of your mind
17009s	that thinks oh if they got through with
17011s	that deck should I be afraid you know
17013s	for the rest of the lineup obviously
17016s	um not always the case but still
17018s	something to be a little bit worried
17019s	about we are going to see Death Knight
17020s	on the bottom
17022s	look at it look at the hands
17026s	look at it
17028s	you can do whatever he likes and then on
17030s	turn three boom plus four take that
17034s	oh
17036s	boy bands
17038s	take that is definitely one what was the
17040s	other one plus four
17042s	yeah that'll do yeah plus four well
17047s	okay I did one there you do get to a
17049s	natural band
17050s	[Laughter]
17054s	I was gonna say why are you doing music
17056s	jokes with me Raven but yeah it's
17057s	Festival of Legends I think that's a
17058s	fair excuse so I'll let you off and also
17060s	it's music from like you know what 20
17062s	odd years ago I thought that's at least
17063s	a chance
17065s	I think you'll find it's more like more
17068s	than 20.
17071s	it's more than uh trying to work out
17073s	whether to hero power here just take it
17075s	down set up the Rowdy fan for next turn
17078s	yep it's another corpse in the bin for
17080s	this double marrow manipulator as well
17082s	so that seems reasonable
17086s	foreign
17094s	okay he picks up a flower child which is
17095s	a big big deal
17100s	yeah I mean so we talked about this
17102s	earlier but I can really foresee in the
17104s	near future just most Decks that play
17106s	minions just running groudy fan because
17108s	it's so much damage right it's a good
17112s	card overall and even if it's not on the
17114s	test obviously you see it with like
17115s	Sedano for example and Demon Hunter is
17117s	very specific power but just look at
17120s	this now we can Rowdy fan the Rowdy fan
17121s	yeah it's subtle and Casey are both
17124s	bullied me relentlessly on stream on my
17126s	stream to you know use it like this a
17128s	lot more that's in in Death Note in a
17130s	Demon Hunter but yeah yeah it's just so
17133s	much stuff
17135s	race for the sky and when it's worded in
17138s	the the way that it's pointed out
17139s	earlier by soccer as well with um it's
17141s	you know dark iron dwarf existed those
17143s	cars existed they're always strong why
17144s	wouldn't this be look at that just four
17147s	damage and you still get the minion as
17149s	well right like it's yeah it's just a
17151s	solid and you create a weird question of
17152s	your opponent of which one do you kill
17154s	depending on health Turtles
17158s	I see Levick try and fight back now just
17160s	have to break and which is gonna help
17164s	yeah
17171s	I'm gonna reduce the power down
17175s	there's a lot of damage coming the next
17177s	couple of turns there is but Lubbock's
17180s	just
17181s	it's gonna be one of those Druid games
17182s	right where if he makes it he really
17185s	makes it and just wins but it's gonna be
17187s	on a knife's edge because he was like
17189s	pushing enough damage right now for this
17191s	to be scary yeah he's also um look at
17194s	this rather than freezing all three and
17196s	pushing the one which is the play that
17197s	just jumps off the page at you he's
17199s	looking to start fading away so that
17201s	this marrow manipulator doesn't hit
17205s	the one Health minions next turn
17211s	so that he's he's doing he's giving up
17213s	one damage to face now but that's going
17214s	to be two damage to face next turn in a
17217s	lot of worlds
17220s	so that's good
17223s	you good Raven
17225s	yeah I was just looking I was gonna say
17226s	yeah okay I was waiting for the outcome
17227s	there but I was gonna say I assume he
17229s	just goes aquatic Aquatic and then takes
17231s	the pig yeah just to get the card out
17233s	the deck basically
17236s	yep the next card might be a good one so
17238s	you might as well have a look at it
17241s	no little room to ramp though there is
17244s	the innovate of course but again Levick
17246s	has to use it in a sort of defensive
17248s	manner here it does get the value of the
17250s	uh
17251s	I do love watching the the ways that
17254s	people have to get the finale on the
17255s	flower chart I think of all the finale
17257s	cards it's the best one because the
17259s	payoff is so huge but if you draw it
17262s	sometimes because you're Druid it's
17264s	sometimes just impossible because
17265s	everything costs like three and you have
17267s	900 Mana yeah that is an Uber rack right
17270s	on the right the full art I'm going to
17272s	say yes but I'm not 100 but yeah
17275s	I don't have it so I'm not 100 but it
17278s	looks like a new product so old
17285s	is this ever lethal yes how we just need
17287s	to go face
17290s	four that's unlikely
17293s	yeah
17294s	just rip it I don't think you've got
17295s	another play just rip it
17296s	four to face
17299s	the other option is um
17302s	is taserun Right which isn't really
17304s	gonna achieve the same thing and because
17306s	they've got back to back so there are no
17308s	copses now right exactly
17313s	foreign
17317s	this could be a situation where it's
17319s	like marrow
17320s	and then hero power plus whatever then
17323s	you know try and hit the marrow
17324s	afterwards again there's a little one
17326s	turn Gap obviously goo wouldn't really
17328s	want that to be the case but it's like
17330s	it's going to be the way it has to be
17334s	no under King making this unfun yeah
17340s	like making it really unfun actually
17344s	I'm gonna make it even less fun than
17347s	that if I'm going to keep boosting the
17349s	amount of unfun this looks
17352s	yeah this is really tricky actually
17357s	because in a weird way like is this just
17359s	a new Barack
17362s	pass
17363s	it's like we kind of need the armor uh
17366s	I've done it before and it never ends
17368s	well I mean yeah you're doing it because
17371s	it's not going to end well usually but
17372s	it might be
17380s	like chat the answers the question I'm
17382s	sure you're asking is um crazed
17384s	Alchemist smothering starfish and
17386s	Deathwing
17387s	[Music]
17390s	they always want to watching the Etc
17395s	is that going to put something in the
17397s	way a lot of Health on board
17399s	so it's gonna slow you down actually now
17401s	even though there's only five but Levick
17403s	must just be thinking no no frostwave no
17406s	frostwork
17411s	yeah this is okay
17413s	that's fine though because I don't think
17414s	from what I can remember here like
17415s	levick's overly buffed the hero power
17418s	right so like there is a little bit of
17421s	time maybe go fishing with the visitors
17425s	it would have just gained two armor so I
17427s	think no three so yeah I'm wrong
17430s	honey blast is so tempting
17435s	I mean the other's better
17438s	I don't think so
17442s	I actually touch fits in better if you
17444s	get another Discover Maybe
17448s	three is so much more than two right now
17450s	on there right enjoyed being on five
17456s	should generate a lot of corpses as well
17458s	for another marrow
17467s	oh
17469s	oh okay okay sure I was wondering
17472s	whether it was touch
17473s	because if they draw around
17478s	oh my God
17480s	what's the name yeah if they draw for
17482s	swims Fury next time yeah they have that
17484s	and touch right yeah they play a fastest
17486s	turn
17487s	there's also an option to take the touch
17489s	and
17490s	so you can get a Corp uh corpse added
17493s	this term which makes your marrow
17494s	manipulator do two more next turns
17495s	somewhere but it's only a one in five or
17497s	one in six of hitting the face yeah
17499s	exactly yeah but there was a lot of sort
17500s	of a
17501s	very unlikely but important Fringe maths
17504s	to check out there
17506s	and like you say you're one in case you
17508s	draw the first worms to get make sure
17509s	you've got the lethal with another one
17510s	yeah because then like you push seven
17512s	instead of five right which is a big
17513s	deal
17520s	it's weird all this damage in hand but
17522s	most of it just involves having to be a
17524s	little bit lucky oh that's huge
17528s	yeah I've been able to just survive to
17531s	fit that in
17534s	[Music]
17535s	there's the swap oh
17538s	oh
17541s	no oh wow okay
17545s	to show him that'll be amazing
17551s	nature it always goes face once it's not
17554s	enough
17561s	excuse me
17566s	yeah I don't know what a q has to do
17568s	here now
17569s	to try and defend that just don't really
17571s	think they can honestly I don't think
17573s	you can defense he's got to work out how
17575s	to win and he definitely can't do that
17576s	so I guess the yeah that hit needed to
17579s	kill what the anuber ACT to give him any
17581s	chance I didn't even count all that but
17583s	yeah I'm just gonna go for it there but
17584s	it wasn't enough as Levick takes the
17586s	Victory and evens up the series 1-1 and
17589s	how like could that have actually been
17591s	any closer because Levick obviously made
17594s	the the play with the enuba rack the
17596s	last ditch attempt but was just Giga
17599s	dead to the frostwims fury that was just
17602s	not quite there and that's so scary and
17604s	it shows that when these players
17607s	obviously they're as good as they are
17608s	they're not doing it because they've not
17610s	thought about frostworms Fury you know
17612s	what I mean like yeah yeah well I'm
17614s	deadly for their drawing but if they
17616s	don't this is the way to win the game
17618s	and that's what he played for there so
17621s	um it was really well played I think
17622s	both players set up as well as they
17623s	could it was just there used just
17625s	drawing just a little bit right yeah and
17628s	levick's got the Druid out of there
17630s	which you know there's other problems
17631s	for him in this matchup but the Druid
17634s	being gone now gives him a a fighting
17636s	chance of winning this match because
17638s	that Druid was just going to stick
17639s	around a lot of the time he's got to be
17641s	stoked top four last year's World
17644s	Championship as well so if he goes back
17646s	he's going to be on that list of players
17648s	to fear for a long time to come yeah 100
17651s	and I just think I like said getting the
17653s	Druid out the way regardless of what any
17656s	of these players were brought to think
17658s	about it once they saw all the lineups
17660s	it isn't the strongest deck in those
17662s	Place lineups right we kind of know this
17664s	and it has the ability to fall over very
17666s	easy like kind of like druid's always
17669s	been even when druid's been strong there
17671s	were those games where it's like oh okay
17673s	well my draw is a bit top heavy and dead
17675s	right because that just kind of happens
17677s	which would kind of always naturally
17680s	ramping in a lot of historically good
17682s	decks so getting that one away is pretty
17685s	good but again uh for you like
17688s	he lost with frost DK not the end of the
17690s	world probably gonna win Frost DK very
17692s	soon once again to go up against this
17695s	Outcast Demon Hunter but wouldn't he
17697s	have loved his own Outcast Demon Hunter
17699s	and his Mage just to plop into that
17701s	Druid and just murdered him four turns
17703s	twice like it would have been so nice
17706s	for him so big deal but like you say the
17708s	first DK is
17711s	arguably the most powerful deck in the
17713s	former is very high up there I think
17715s	there's two or three decks you could
17716s	definitely fight over for that but it is
17717s	one of them so
17719s	[Music]
17721s	very interesting opening hand to choose
17723s	from here as well for him he's gonna
17725s	throw away all the clunky stuff but wow
17732s	at least the um
17735s	uh at least the bone breakers like very
17739s	usable right like that is a weapon that
17741s	yes you can use it to trade but you
17743s	could equip it and just go face if you
17745s	have three weapons in hand right it's
17747s	not like a specific crazy Tech weapon
17749s	it's not I might have menethil where you
17751s	might want the freeze on specific turns
17753s	and so on like that very usable it's not
17757s	like getting stuck with like two true
17758s	silver champions in your opening hand in
17760s	this Paladin or something right yeah I
17762s	mean this is disgusting you kill a 1-1
17764s	for one Manner and do two to their face
17766s	and you can do it again next turn for
17768s	zero Mana
17769s	it's a pretty good Hearthstone card I'd
17771s	say
17774s	and look at the tempo it's giving him
17775s	now look at the board presents after two
17777s	turns his opponent's played two pretty
17779s	decent Minions on curve and has nothing
17781s	to show for it and has taken four yeah
17783s	and now there's Bone Breaker hero power
17785s	as an absolute worst case scenario here
17789s	which is absolutely huge of course
17793s	yeah the hero power in Death Knight fits
17795s	in so well especially in the aggressive
17797s	format like I
17799s	it's well like this matchup gets really
17801s	tricky because you can see Levick
17803s	thinking Hmm
17804s	do I need to kill this like probably is
17807s	actually the answer but it's it's not
17811s	only removal but it's damaged right
17813s	that's being used here and the problem
17815s	is if one player starts being like
17817s	overly defensive suddenly there's not
17820s	that much burn damage to actually win
17821s	the game
17823s	this is a top deck
17825s	it's not a thriller in any way or form
17828s	but it just feels out nicely what's
17830s	going on lets you proc your egg it's
17833s	just nice
17837s	sure I'm actually wondering if it's
17838s	still Bone Breaker hero power
17840s	it could be yeah
17843s	levick's whole deck spews out little
17846s	dudes everything yeah right so I like it
17850s	can you just hold on to it anyway hold
17852s	on to the better clear I I what do you
17853s	do next turn is my question do you then
17855s	go in with the Bone Breaker again and
17856s	freeze what's left with them right is
17858s	that your next turn uh yeah you could
17860s	swing re-equip the weapon or
17862s	do you I guess see what the next drawers
17865s	is of course the the Baseline of that
17867s	but I think if it's another weapon equip
17869s	and go face yeah it's decent damage
17872s	using up the turn being very efficient
17874s	but like I said I just think the odds of
17876s	Levitt creating another wide board are
17878s	so high using this and an egg to kill
17881s	two minions it doesn't feel as good to
17884s	me good call he's gone for it it's um he
17886s	was torn between the two very much so as
17888s	am I even now but yeah like I said I
17891s	wouldn't have gone oh I cannot believe
17893s	they played yeah you know what I mean it
17894s	wouldn't have been the end of the world
17895s	it's just this feels cleaner
17898s	whatever you say a play looks clean and
17899s	it involves hitting your opponent Raven
17901s	I'm I'm all here for it
17909s	yeah he's still thinking about it it's a
17911s	really tough call because like you say
17912s	like the danger is Levick just abused
17915s	two Health minions all over the board at
17917s	any point
17918s	uh the upside is just just playing the
17920s	cultist crocking the egg having five
17921s	attack on boards kind of nice yeah yeah
17923s	into your might they're frozen you're
17925s	hitting for five plus the four that's
17927s	nine you're going towards coin for yours
17929s	worms it's really close I love it yeah I
17932s	I think like in the world
17934s	where there's a bad turn coming up for
17937s	you then it's kind of a good turn
17939s	because this is only bad to have in hand
17942s	if your opponent doesn't play any
17945s	Minions that turns right it's like well
17947s	if they don't play any minions I'm
17949s	probably having a good day yes
17951s	it also used up the weapon if you play
17953s	it the other way that weapon just sits
17955s	in hand the entire game yes yes
17958s	because the curve says so I think at
17959s	that point whereas now his mental health
17961s	if it's nicely on curve
17964s	like you say if your opponent's got a
17966s	one one on the board you just don't care
17968s	you just hit him
17970s	oh
17977s	it says 18 damage in hand plus two
17980s	that's 20 plus the three is 22 damage
17983s	just hanging around over the next four
17985s	turns
17986s	and your opponent gets to attack you
17987s	once
18002s	looks like he's counting outs to find
18004s	the the missing bits of damage and how
18007s	much he's like to take well it's gonna
18009s	be interesting for me whether
18011s	it's actually like hero-powered trade
18015s	swing face
18018s	because there's currently no turn I
18020s	guess it's so likely there's going to be
18022s	a turn five draw
18025s	yeah so I think the you go face him play
18028s	the mic
18029s	and then the opponent does some stuff
18031s	then you play hero power cultist that's
18033s	your your past turn that's your your bad
18035s	turn right
18037s	okay he's actually doing it
18044s	going slow
18046s	the old-fashioned menethil coin Fury
18048s	into Fury which is a lot of damage
18052s	but you do have to then find the extra
18054s	little bit of damage
18058s	yeah I think with this hand because it's
18060s	not been burst heavy outside of the two
18062s	weapons the two bone Breakers of course
18064s	I think like in what three four turns
18068s	you probably as Frost DK going to have
18073s	drawn something to help out right
18075s	especially if you're freezing your
18076s	opponent's board every single turn with
18078s	five fives on it I don't disagree
18081s	though
18087s	really scary all of a sudden yeah and
18089s	this is the this is the turn where if
18090s	you did it my way
18092s	you'd be taking this well you'd be
18094s	taking nine next turn just for no reason
18101s	because now you're just taking almost
18103s	nothing
18104s	ever again
18109s	sidekick's a sneaky good pickup as well
18111s	because
18112s	um the hero power buff later on and also
18115s	later on you now get the um
18118s	the one five buff later everyone's
18120s	favorite new card
18121s	Rowdy so there is a lot more face damage
18125s	after this freezing point than there
18127s	used to be
18133s	this is one of the benefits of playing
18135s	against this style of Demon Hunter is
18138s	that even though it's very powerful
18142s	even though they can generate a lot of
18144s	stuff that isn't in their deck it's
18146s	still very it's still very linear game
18148s	plan right they want stuff on the board
18150s	and they have a couple of weapons that's
18153s	how they kill you basically so if you
18155s	stop the board bit happening with
18157s	freezes for example as we can see now
18159s	there it is apart from heel I guess with
18162s	like i-beams generated from Levick let's
18165s	not really a lot as Levitt can do except
18170s	just sit there and be frozen wretched
18171s	Exile is going to drop down though in
18173s	there let's turn it again a little bit
18174s	spicy yeah the other thing you get to do
18176s	is the Demon Hunter here which I don't
18178s	think is going to matter but it might
18180s	and it definitely will sometimes it's
18181s	because you can rush into the five five
18183s	and still keep both Space by killing off
18185s	your thing yes
18186s	cycle the actual five five itself isn't
18189s	the problem that it might be for for a
18191s	lot of other decks
18192s	I'll give you a paladin with your board
18194s	filled up at this point the fight oh
18195s	you're just taking kills you yeah yeah
18198s	there's an I-beam okay
18201s	oh but that is where it stops
18207s	and now
18210s	I'm actually sat here thinking
18212s	if it's Fury again
18215s	does he actually Target the exile
18220s	uh that's what he's thinking as well
18225s	okay
18228s	uh this is tricky like because if he
18231s	just goes phase the Exile lives
18234s	and as you said the Cycles happen with
18236s	because there's a five five on board
18238s	that you can't stop making then what if
18241s	it's just two more i-beams get made
18244s	go the other way if you kill the Exile
18246s	do you ever win
18247s	[Music]
18251s	your opponent's on 60 or 12 if you hit
18253s	in the face you you have to kill the
18254s	exile
18255s	well they don't get to attack one more
18257s	time you've got to find damage yourself
18258s	then they just start hitting you for 15
18260s	because you can't freeze them anymore
18261s	it's a tough one
18264s	yes yeah I feel like obviously the
18267s	opening was decent with the weapons but
18269s	I feel like he was just drawn everything
18270s	in the wrong order right
18273s	like normally the frostworms are the
18275s	finishers and it's not gonna be quite
18278s	easy just going first just letting it
18280s	rip yeah okay I respect that Shakey's
18282s	head he knows he hates things like he's
18283s	he's looked at what you said because
18286s	that makes that's your first thing it's
18287s	like well I just don't want them to
18289s	generate a million eye beams and then
18291s	you process it through it's like how do
18293s	I ever actually kill them and he hates
18294s	every minute of it he knows because back
18296s	to Step One how do I ever stop making
18298s	all these i-beams well that's gonna
18299s	happen
18300s	but he had no other choice I feel or he
18302s	did have a lot of other choice but he
18304s	felt he had no other choice and I I
18305s	agree
18310s	but now he's relying on pickups of his
18312s	own because he only has what five next
18314s	turn
18316s	who's hiding now the hero power of the
18319s	sidekick and the cultist
18322s	and I guess there's like a potential
18324s	world with
18326s	school teacher instead to see what
18327s	happens there right if he misses yeah
18331s	but there's another sidekick I think
18333s	there's definitely the two Valdez
18335s	there's a first strike that's minions
18337s	generate something
18340s	I was gonna get all excited over fake
18342s	lethal
18346s	well yeah Frost strike won't face well
18348s	imagine
18356s	I'm trying to think what are the best
18358s	outs
18359s	from like noggling
18364s	um glacial no that's four Now isn't it
18366s	um
18367s	what's three these days that does damage
18370s	icy Touch
18375s	who
18375s	[Music]
18377s	no
18379s	I don't think it fits right it's too
18381s	much manner it doesn't do that and
18383s	because the code is costing threes of
18385s	real pain
18387s	could have horns of wintering hours oh
18389s	oh wow oh wow that's actually insane I
18394s	was just going to say the draw could get
18396s	him horns of winter to refill
18400s	so he had the other first strike the two
18401s	horns right and that was the lethal
18404s	oh my God absolutely insane wobble Horn
18410s	of winter
18411s	yeah
18412s	and I think to be fair uh shout out for
18414s	her to go there to like just know that
18418s	was the play right obviously it's like
18420s	right well you know how do I get there
18422s	because this work no does this work
18423s	what's snuggling potentially get me so
18425s	and so on but to go for that and say
18427s	this is the only way that the win
18428s	happens and then just get it obviously
18430s	I'm not 100 sure what were the exact
18432s	odds I'm not sure I think he's winning
18434s	three I think there's just the other
18436s	um Frost strike and the two horns so oh
18439s	was that all it's left okay pretty
18441s	decent odds yeah I'm looking at it now
18443s	and I think that is correct for some
18445s	reason I thought there were more he was
18446s	used both a few of these normally you
18448s	sort of play the
18449s	um
18455s	I think it's one in three that he hits
18457s	precisely those two
18458s	not bad and it paid off suddenly two one
18461s	open only one game away from a good time
18463s	gonna be seen him there tomorrow if he
18465s	can win the next one so what's on the
18467s	line levick's uh more than capable
18469s	fighting back of course but that is a
18471s	rough one right I think Levick was at
18474s	that point you saw double Furies you saw
18477s	you know a lot of weapon damage you
18479s	think right if I just don't die there's
18482s	no answer right there's no way I can
18484s	stop me
18489s	it's gonna be the Mage and Levy's gonna
18491s	top over to the Rogue as well so we're
18494s	gonna get Miracle Rogue versus mage
18497s	yeah and Mage the other deck that just
18499s	won't go away we talk about Miracle
18500s	Rogue a lot but this mage deck I think
18502s	has been brought by five players off the
18504s	top of my head and I looked those
18505s	numbers hours ago so it's probably wrong
18507s	but a number of players anyway
18509s	and all this Cosmic keyboard I think
18513s	you've probably played this more than me
18515s	actually the cosmic keyboard a key piece
18518s	in this lineup now yeah always happy to
18520s	see that on curve uh honestly and I
18522s	think just the fact that you can go one
18524s	two three is very strong and again the
18527s	keyboard isn't necessarily there because
18530s	you need to cast a spell on three
18532s	it's just you want to equip so when you
18535s	do get to like cold case you're suddenly
18538s	making two skeletons and a four four
18540s	like that is a very very solid play
18543s	yeah and looking at this it makes
18545s	objection a lot better doesn't it
18546s	objections kind of rubbish because it's
18548s	so slow but now three Mana three three
18550s	plus objects that's all right where's
18552s	Five Mana I guess but yeah you set up a
18554s	hard turn you're not doing much anyway
18556s	[Music]
18558s	it's one of those cards not that I want
18560s	to suggest Nerfs but I feel like
18563s	keyboards one of those cards that at
18565s	some point in the future it's probably
18566s	going to go down to two durability you
18568s	know it's that kind of weapon that we've
18570s	seen in the past where it's like yes
18571s	does that work too many times because
18574s	like three is a pretty big number for
18576s	this weapon or make it expensive or
18579s	something yeah uh look at the other side
18580s	though levick's got stuff
18584s	from a pop-off turn he gets the right
18586s	pick up next turn
18593s	um
18595s	you're just trying to work out the best
18596s	way now this is this is a little bit of
18597s	awkward but
18602s	I wonder if you don't play the keyboard
18605s	now when do you is the problem
18608s	yeah yeah I do think the keyboard looks
18611s	great because there's volume up now
18616s	I think your firm Levick hadn't played
18618s	the graveyard he would have been a lot
18620s	more happy playing the keyboard but the
18622s	graveyard sort of says emergency is
18624s	going on
18625s	you've got to step it up
18628s	it's bone Spike
18635s	will this potentially not the
18638s	the biggest
18639s	yeah
18642s	oh I guess unless he goes for shadow
18644s	okay now I'll shoot him yeah okay we got
18650s	there we go to the okay I give up stage
18652s	of things I didn't see the the draw yeah
18655s	yeah I was looking at the hand I was
18657s	like oh yeah you could draw a million
18658s	cards never mind
18660s	zero man oh my he's got the demise as
18663s	well
18668s	Make It Stop Raven
18671s	is that double red it's just six damage
18674s	potion
18676s	I didn't catch it
18679s	but yeah levix put the brakes on an
18680s	eight by choice here
18684s	um because
18686s	next turn I think
18690s	I don't know if he's gonna do it but
18691s	he's got 12 damage from hand with The
18693s	Alchemist and double um potion
18697s	and he's got karabato after that
18701s	ah okay so he's just gonna get aegon
18704s	down say look
18705s	you either kill England
18708s	or I can just destroy you ghost like
18710s	without much effort because Levick knows
18712s	there's two of the Arcane bolts in hand
18713s	yes
18716s	and again what's important and I feel
18719s	like a a little bit of a rarity outside
18721s	of the main classes but this Mage can
18725s	like effectively heal a good chunk if
18727s	the artificer sits down right so but
18729s	Levy can do 20 and he's not allowed to
18732s	Edwin's not letting him do 20.
18739s	I want to do 20.
18741s	don't tell me I can't no I don't think
18745s	he can I think he's absolutely right
18746s	that he you can't do it
18748s	um
18750s	it's really tricky right because yes
18753s	aguin deals five you know don't get me
18755s	wrong and it would cost manner but the
18757s	fear with this dick is there's a lot of
18759s	minions so if you kill a queen and then
18761s	they just top deck a one drop you're
18762s	like
18763s	it's fine I take it back he's doing 22.
18766s	he's found out I trusted you Lauren it's
18769s	not it's not lethal but it's just okay
18773s	okay here we go he may still get in the
18775s	Thanos because he picked up the prep
18777s	which is an extra one four times so
18779s	instead of doing 20 he's done 24. ah
18781s	okay okay
18783s	well well well
18786s	double artificial
18790s	though so I don't mind not doing 20 if
18792s	you do 24 we're allowing that one that's
18794s	that's good
18804s	I mean
18807s	trying to oh that I'm trying to work out
18810s	what he could squeeze in to get some
18812s	armor here because double arches plus
18814s	playable cards is not bad at all and
18817s	could actually be what goo needs to just
18819s	win because Levick has krabatoa has door
18822s	of Shadows he's not all in because of
18825s	Thanos as well but he'll need like a
18827s	turn right to to sort of recoup the
18831s	losses if this gets dealt with
18833s	yeah
18835s	but it does all have to get dealt with
18837s	objectives not happy about is the amount
18840s	of stuff yeah the objection being weaved
18842s	is nice
18843s	but the amount of stuff he's having to
18844s	take off the board himself he's not
18845s	giving Levitt the card either
18847s	I mean he is but yeah
18849s	objections huge as well it is
18854s	saying no crap for you
18858s	so I'm just gonna play Infinite cards
18859s	and make another giant ghost
18862s	can't object to that
18865s	he's gonna have to hero power right
18871s	I don't think that he can just leave
18874s	this artificer up
18876s	I think that's asking to like get
18878s	cheesed out and lose
18881s	ah the old cheese out
18885s	just love each other yeah
18887s	yeah just prep press the button twice
18890s	kill this Yep this is looking good okay
18895s	you okay baby the cheese has been taken
18897s	away
18900s	am I okay
18904s	all right do it all again gear you did
18907s	it last turn
18909s	foreign
18917s	every time it's in hand
18921s	the problem here is yeah is this gonna
18922s	have to be like volume up draw alibi
18928s	does alibi even save you I mean it does
18930s	but he doesn't know he might be potions
18932s	yeah on the way because the volume I was
18934s	actually wondering whether it was like
18936s	the more realistic way is to
18941s	ah I was looking at you like Thanos
18944s	Arcane bolt and get cosmic keyboard on
18947s	because I feel like this this keyboard
18949s	not being equipped has been a problem
18951s	this game does this strike
18959s	it's just these extra points of damage
18961s	are so huge
18963s	nice Max damage
18965s	[Music]
18969s	you play Dora Shadows yeah I think so
18972s	right you've got five four Mana left
18973s	like seems good to me
18975s	pick up another ghostly strike or
18977s	something or a fan yeah just just stuff
18978s	you don't want anymore just get it
18980s	through your deck to try and find stuff
18981s	you do want
18982s	foreign
18984s	yeah play that as well that's another
18986s	point and another Minion
18989s	and wins on turn 10 if you get there
18992s	yeah
18994s	yeah that's just Alibi through that
18996s	right
19001s	[Music]
19003s	so what is there eight armor from
19005s	artificial Cold Case
19007s	[Music]
19009s	there's still five for lethal
19012s	that I don't think he could start
19017s	so
19019s	he can add a bite
19023s	you gotta get it let's just pointless
19029s	yeah The Alibi means that you just need
19031s	like oh I guess you could if he drew it
19033s	he would need to draw exactly Alibi and
19035s	Arcane ball two two and then
19038s	that's still almost certain death but
19040s	it's something but yeah I just think
19043s	there just wasn't enough on board
19044s	obviously Levick popped off a couple of
19046s	times right but yeah and I know it's not
19049s	like you skipped turns but this Cube I
19052s	feel like keyboard's so good because
19054s	even if you play like using small spells
19056s	it's just extra minions right it's like
19058s	three additional minions for two Mana
19061s	the other side of that though um the
19063s	turn that he played the
19065s	the 3-2 Levitt made an eight eight the
19069s	next turn and the keyboard wasn't going
19070s	to stare that down very well
19073s	um in a hurry because you took a lot of
19074s	yeah
19075s	so I think I think it's you know it's
19078s	terrifying if you don't get your
19079s	keyboard down but I kind of get it but
19082s	here he is he Alibi again he's up to 11.
19084s	so yeah Levick going for the Aston law
19087s	because the asteroid pings are a great
19089s	way to be excited Alibi right
19094s	and just maximizing pings like you don't
19097s	need to find huge damage one's one
19099s	whichever way you do it so just do it
19101s	cheap
19104s	yeah there we go it's gonna be evened up
19108s	at 2-2 now so we're gonna go to the
19110s	final game going all the way for this
19112s	decider match and uh it's it's been a
19115s	struggle for both players I think both
19116s	players getting so close and we did to
19119s	CQ kind of try and Stave off the
19121s	aggression there but it was just too
19123s	much and I think that's the big factor
19126s	for miracle Rogue as we well know and as
19128s	we've known for a while is the
19130s	difference between just having the
19132s	location and not
19134s	makes the deck look good and bad right
19136s	like that's the problem yes you can do
19138s	other things without location but when
19140s	you have it the deck looks like 800
19142s	times better right because you can do
19144s	things like this that we've seen a
19145s	couple of times happen today whereas if
19147s	the location wasn't there you could
19149s	actually easily imagine you just
19151s	stabilizing and just pressure it back
19152s	right but you know and that armor game
19154s	becomes relevant again as opposed to
19156s	just saying well you gained four armor I
19159s	haven't ate eight eight so I will win
19161s	you know in that kind of matchup all
19163s	right we'll win uh it's gonna be the
19166s	Mage versus the outcast d8 if I'm right
19169s	and
19171s	this is where the people who brought
19172s	Mage is their fourth deck are are
19174s	smiling today this is an okay matchup
19176s	for them
19178s	[Music]
19183s	the there were so many outcasts the ages
19185s	brought I don't know how the players
19187s	predicted how many would be there but
19189s	the people thought majors are the ones
19190s	who probably did predict it correctly
19191s	and yeah here we go let's see how it
19193s	plays out in action
19196s	um
19196s	love it with a pretty good looking curve
19199s	but just keeping this little spear
19200s	that's basically a good looking curve
19201s	right oh now it's a really good card
19203s	let's go yes the Mage isn't looking too
19206s	bad either though right like right all
19208s	of these cards do work although I would
19210s	still be tempted to throw a huge chunk
19214s	of them away because again I think
19216s	keyboard's good I think Cold Case is
19218s	good and especially if you can get that
19220s	death Bond you start to oh yeah really
19223s	cause issues for your opponent
19226s	so splitting the difference just keeping
19228s	the the bare minimum to do something big
19230s	on turn one
19232s	and like you say you're going to work
19234s	towards those Deadpools Deadpool's so
19236s	dumb I love it so much it's just a big
19238s	dumb spell
19240s	that wins Hearthstone games and gets
19242s	them over with
19245s	[Music]
19246s	this is your favorite car gonna see a
19247s	lot of work isn't it even the Frozen
19249s	touch it's gonna do so much in this game
19250s	yeah and that's why it's so good right
19253s	it's a really really good burst card but
19255s	also because of the infused you could
19257s	just use it as removal
19259s	especially when so many of these key
19261s	minions as you can see here have that
19263s	three health so it's actually going to
19265s	be really huge and these Elementals as
19267s	well getting dropped down are all going
19269s	to help with that infused stacking yes
19271s	it's just going to be infinite infusers
19273s	for a while it's great
19277s	you're naughty because you can deal with
19279s	that
19280s	and if you can deal with that you're in
19282s	a good spot because that card is so
19283s	aggravating oh my God
19287s	Cold Case as well now
19289s	[Music]
19292s	yep
19299s	you're there just working out exactly
19301s	how to split up all of this not only do
19304s	you want to does he need to kill these
19305s	minions but it's all about setting up
19307s	how do you get ahead because if you can
19309s	get like ahead on board against this
19311s	deck yes there's a lot of Rush minions
19313s	there's a good chunk of removal that's
19315s	available for the Demon Hunter but if
19317s	you're making them like spend their turn
19319s	just rushing minions into your kind of
19321s	throwaway minions because I think the
19323s	majority of Mage minions are just yeah
19325s	I'll play it it'll do a little job and
19326s	then it goes away and I don't really
19328s	care and that's a big big upside
19332s	uh just generating I mean these are free
19334s	right because he's going to end up with
19335s	an extra Frozen touch or two out of it
19337s	so they'd lose a lot of cards here he
19339s	just gets them back in a moment and
19340s	everything's fine yeah and the thing is
19343s	there's there's only really one volume
19345s	needs to be drawn for the Mage to feel
19347s	okay you know card wise
19351s	and again at any point like you said the
19354s	death pawn it doesn't end it but it
19356s	gives you that extra confidence that
19358s	you're going to be in an okay plus okay
19359s	spot it's so much damage
19362s	[Music]
19365s	I think you hit the Cold Case here that
19367s	nothing else seems to work
19369s	are you gonna use the coin as well sure
19371s	I think
19373s	the only question about the Cold Case
19376s	stuff is whether you want to potentially
19379s	give things for Levick to aim Outcast
19382s	cards at right sure because just because
19385s	the glove tire is equipped but I don't
19388s	think that's as big a deal than just
19390s	having a good turn yourself I think a
19392s	lot of the time uh I think there's more
19395s	circumstances than not that you should
19397s	just play a good turn I think sometimes
19399s	people overthink turns and be like oh
19402s	yeah but if my opponent has exactly this
19403s	this and this this good play becomes a
19406s	bad play it's like yeah but when they
19408s	don't have any of that it's just a good
19410s	play so do it yeah I'm very guilty of a
19413s	lot of that sort of stuff it's like yeah
19414s	well I'm going to be super clever and
19416s	play around their their bone Spike on
19417s	turn two by not playing the card that my
19420s	deck needs to play right now and then
19422s	they don't have it you just didn't play
19423s	your your win condition card
19426s	it's one of the pop-off turns here for
19428s	Levick
19430s	I see so many cards they're only just
19433s	drawn but generated as well
19435s	it's gonna run out of
19437s	Mana now I guess he could actually yeah
19440s	Shuffle that
19441s	and then play the center Runner
19443s	yeah it's quite a good um
19447s	way of manipulating your outcasts to
19450s	dispose it's really weird in this deck
19453s	it's my little brain heard it does
19459s	yeah with Outcast instead of it being a
19462s	downside of just you throw away a card
19465s	back into your deck it's more you get to
19468s	place cards in hand yeah which is a
19470s	weird mechanic that Hearthstone hasn't
19472s	ever had obviously until outcast
19474s	like remember the days where skull of
19476s	Gordon was great except when it was
19478s	turned two and it was your left hand
19480s	card it's like I don't want this six
19482s	drop in my hand
19483s	take it away well now you can and get
19486s	three attack in the process is fine
19490s	this is where those frozen touches are
19491s	gonna start earning their keep Goose
19494s	hand has not really improved as he's
19496s	gone along but these Frozen touches are
19498s	gonna buy him yet another turn or two
19500s	too
19500s	to do his thing yeah imagine it's double
19503s	right I think so
19506s	oh
19508s	I would have been interested to just
19509s	send the other one face and then trade
19512s	just to start stacking the infuses again
19515s	yep that's that's what I would have done
19517s	but I guess you don't step the infuses
19518s	if you don't make the Thanos so
19521s	sure
19522s	you also fair enough worried about cards
19526s	here because uh like they haven't drawn
19529s	a volume up it's not like they've got a
19531s	keyboard to help sort of stretch the
19533s	value of Any Given spells and they've
19535s	not even got sanctum Arc splitter just
19538s	anything that gives them more stuff to
19540s	do yeah which means this Thanos is
19542s	probably just digging for a volume or it
19544s	may be an egg win right now
19545s	[Music]
19548s	oh it's such a big game of Hearthstone
19550s	as well the loser just game of
19553s	hearthstone is quite large the winner
19555s	comes back tomorrow for more
19562s	that never fails to excite me when you
19564s	get to this stage it's just like
19565s	somebody just doesn't make day two it
19567s	doesn't matter each round somebody loses
19569s	and somebody advances yeah after the
19571s	first initial games but
19573s	for some reason this top 12 always makes
19575s	me oh they're going to get to tomorrow
19578s	what's the big deal right because
19580s	without sounding stupid even though I
19582s	often do
19583s	the previous games and matches don't
19585s	matter right this is do I make it to the
19588s	next day yes or no yeah nothing else
19590s	matters right now it's just one match
19594s	we managed to draw some cards so Arc
19596s	splitter and Nightclub Samsung picked up
19598s	not a bad little combo this turn on so
19600s	you could freeze the five five and just
19601s	get the splitter on board uh flip side
19605s	of that without any great heal outside
19606s	of the artificer there is again the
19609s	option of freezing the fire five and
19611s	just Frozen touch the slitherspoon
19613s	coin exists as well
19616s	true so you could freeze coin and start
19618s	pew pew with your your Frozen touches
19622s	and you've got a skeleton to start
19624s	reinfusing them with
19625s	[Music]
19631s	it's really tricky because even though I
19633s	mentioned Frozen touch is really good as
19635s	a removal tool just as good as it is as
19637s	a you know sort of kill tool
19638s	um in this matchup because you can you
19641s	know how many additional Minions that
19644s	Levitt can generate because there's so
19647s	many Outcast cards oh look for minions
19649s	oh look more minions it's not like you
19651s	can say I'll use these Frozen touch to
19653s	kill until his hands empty yeah because
19655s	it probably just won't ever be empty
19657s	until the game's over
19659s	all right challenging you to have more
19661s	spells I don't care about your silly
19663s	little one three what's the worst that
19664s	could happen
19668s	quite a lot to be fair
19673s	it's gonna be a lot of damage here it's
19675s	gonna be so much
19679s	and this is what I was meaning where you
19681s	like yes the term was fine using the
19683s	Frozen touch to kill off the minions but
19686s	it's just yeah he gets to draw another
19688s	car this turn coming up but it's same
19689s	problem again right oh look more minions
19694s	plus a cool 7 damage for man seven and
19698s	next year is going to be a cool million
19700s	I think
19706s	living slumpbacks he's expecting bad
19707s	things to happen here but there just
19709s	isn't anything here no deathborn no Cold
19712s	Case uh no volume
19714s	[Music]
19718s	this actually might be you just playing
19720s	these Frozen touches raw yes just time
19724s	isn't it
19726s	like every time we've said that he's
19727s	found ways to optimize but this is um
19730s	it's time to stay alive it's desperate
19733s	enough to see like artificial
19737s	keyboard
19740s	touch touch
19743s	is that I mean this is that is
19746s	emergency or impressing going on there
19749s	but I'm just thinking how how far down
19751s	the the rabbit hole are we gonna go so
19754s	he's gone with I think my chances of
19757s	winning are better if I preserve the two
19759s	good Hearthstone cards I possess
19761s	than me top decking my way out of it
19763s	versus an outcast DH
19766s	which makes sense right
19768s	the chance of actually top decking your
19770s	way out of this are pretty small you
19772s	you've got a card in your hand he's
19773s	going to use one of them by the look of
19774s	it
19775s	and he's made minions to try and make
19777s	the other one once again reinfuse
19780s	so once again I think he's done quite
19782s	well in both matches we've seen him is
19785s	is fine middle grounds where the
19787s	question is difficult yeah I think now
19789s	what Q's doing is saying I'm keeping
19791s	this artificer because I just have to
19793s	draw death one yep because other than
19796s	that I feel like this term was just
19798s	worse than the keyboard term so that's
19800s	just gonna be enough anyway too yeah
19802s	much and Levick you can see relief
19805s	no doubt physically and mentally
19808s	exhausted there levick's gonna take the
19810s	Victory and Q is going to be done for
19812s	not only the day but for the weekend
19813s	Lubbock catching some uh some sleep now
19817s	to rest for tomorrow already no doubt
19819s	but what a close series and we've seen
19821s	the players now obviously as time gone
19823s	under these this pressure starts to
19825s	build just you know these matches
19826s	getting drawn out a little bit more it's
19828s	not really you know the Fast and Furious
19830s	back and forth that we've seen uh
19832s	earlier in the day and uh these matchups
19835s	are pretty brutal and I will say of
19836s	course huge congratulations to Levick
19838s	making it through I remember the first
19840s	time I saw Levick play on stream and I
19842s	was like yeah okay it seems insane but I
19845s	will say that I think gues played very
19847s	very well from what I've seen of him
19849s	today so hopefully we get to see more in
19851s	the future yeah I think we will um we're
19853s	going to say goodbye to quite a lot of
19854s	players over the next couple of hours
19855s	but we will see a lot of them again if
19858s	you're capable of putting in three
19860s	months of work of about two and a half
19862s	thousand games of hearthstone to get
19863s	into the top 16.
19866s	you're probably good enough to do it
19867s	again as long as you can keep up the the
19869s	Time Investments as long as your life
19871s	situation is such that you can do that
19873s	so I think a lot of these players will
19875s	see again the next tournament but Levick
19877s	is becoming a pattern like over the
19879s	since you said he was a good player you
19880s	were the one who spotted Levick first
19881s	out of all of us hands up
19884s	um I hate to admit it but he has oh god
19887s	he has won a lot of best of fives where
19889s	he's looked really up against it or
19890s	they've been really tough 50 50s he
19892s	seems to just constantly clutch them out
19894s	he's doing very well yep looking good so
19898s	far but yeah that is lavik making it
19900s	through to tomorrow but we've got plenty
19901s	more matches coming up so don't go
19903s	anywhere and we'll be right back
19911s	oh
19914s	[Music]
19929s	[Music]
19934s	[Music]
19944s	[Music]
19967s	let's go
19970s	[Music]
20007s	[Music]
20011s	hey
20015s	baby
20015s	[Applause]
20018s	[Music]
20030s	foreign
20053s	[Music]
20080s	[Music]
20088s	[Music]
20102s	foreign
20109s	[Music]
20115s	[Music]
20128s	[Music]
20139s	[Music]
20164s	thank you
20165s	[Music]
20178s	foreign
20183s	[Music]
20246s	Hello everybody welcome back to the
20247s	Hearthstone Master tour spring
20249s	Championship my name is TJ and I'm
20252s	joined by saddle and we also have
20254s	another special guest soddle uh joining
20256s	us for this cast
20258s	foreign
20264s	it's Neil Neil are into Bond here in
20266s	spirit peeking in
20268s	IL
20269s	which way is it
20271s	you just didn't it's not even like you
20275s	did it wrong and then went to the other
20276s	side you just did the same side twice in
20278s	a row and thought something would change
20280s	somehow all right let me start over Okay
20282s	Hello everybody welcome back to the
20284s	Hearthstone Master spring Championship
20285s	my name is TJ I'm joined by saddle and
20287s	also
20287s	our special guest
20289s	[Music]
20290s	is going to be uh peeking in here
20292s	momentarily
20294s	nope did it wrong again
20297s	it's Neil Ramen how you doing subtle
20302s	uh I'm doing great
20303s	um I'm I was I was pleased we were we
20306s	were down to two and then for some
20307s	reason you had to bring in the third
20308s	person anyway but no I'm doing good the
20310s	uh the tournament is very very exciting
20313s	so far I think the lineups are kind of
20315s	slightly different from what we were
20316s	expecting to see
20318s	um and we're now sort of seeing the
20320s	little meta shift in the tournament I
20321s	guess we had a very very aggressive
20323s	first few hours and then we kind of
20325s	dropped into the blood DK Zone when
20327s	Levick uh showed up on streams we are
20328s	seeing a little bit of that slower grind
20330s	here control matchup coming in but we
20332s	are back to a pretty fast series for the
20334s	one that we are dealing with which we'll
20335s	get to in a second we can have a little
20337s	recap of what's happened throughout the
20339s	day so far wreck van and Levick making
20342s	it out of group a requam uh having a
20345s	little Cruise quite literally dabbing on
20347s	his opponents throughout various
20349s	matchups uh throughout the day and then
20351s	levik kind of having a much harder route
20353s	uh really you could see it on his face
20357s	after the end of that second series he
20359s	had a grind to get through that decided
20362s	friends
20363s	yeah even going through you know his
20366s	match in the winners it was pretty
20369s	brutal like it just feels like uh he's
20373s	he's gonna shelve the blood Decay for a
20374s	while after this tournament I feel uh
20376s	just because of how rough it's been in
20378s	some of these matchups getting the win
20380s	sometimes but you know at the cost of
20384s	his uh of his mental well-being it
20387s	looked like at the end of that one but
20389s	where we're gonna go next is into Group
20391s	B Gamer rvg repping D Americas
20394s	subtle
20396s	um we don't do we have is regional Pride
20398s	a thing anymore
20400s	well no did we discuss that yes no of
20402s	course it isn't what are you talking
20403s	about no no but just throughout the year
20405s	you know we don't have Grandmasters
20407s	anymore but
20408s	is is it is it appropriate can I do it I
20412s	think so it does still matter right
20413s	because there are still qualification
20415s	factors that break down by position so
20417s	you know the region of the players is
20419s	still relevant to how the system works
20421s	so I think we are still entitled to just
20423s	have our petty rivalry for the sake of
20425s	it yeah I think that's fun
20426s	nice Americans is the best
20432s	um also didn't mention uh it's uh
20436s	Flamingo Friday but it's Saturday so
20438s	what did you say earlier uh flamingos
20440s	laugh today
20441s	Flamingo slatter Day that's tough to say
20445s	um but that's what it is today so I
20446s	don't know the only ones left rocking
20448s	the flamingo shirts but we'll get that
20449s	fixed don't worry that's one of the
20451s	things
20453s	I know
20454s	oh geez uh maybe Derek will join us a
20457s	little bit later we'll see uh just to be
20460s	clear not as a a Caster but as oh I see
20465s	a little image in the corner of my
20466s	webcam
20468s	it's a PNG for me to not realize which
20471s	way is backwards and stuff like that but
20473s	uh yeah we're gonna jump into Casey uh
20476s	versus Saudi the uh olymp decider match
20480s	I suppose for for Group B uh whatever
20483s	you want to call it it's the final match
20484s	to determine the second player from the
20485s	group to move on to the top eight
20486s	tomorrow that's what it is
20488s	and as you can see as we are panning
20490s	through these deck lists uh taking a
20492s	look at the lineups overall very very
20495s	aggressive in general uh you can quibble
20498s	over the designation of uh Frost death
20501s	knight or Miracle Rogue in terms of what
20503s	kind of deck you want to play that but
20505s	they are certainly aggressive decks even
20507s	if you're not going to call them
20508s	straight up aggro decks
20510s	um so this should be uh on the faster
20512s	side as a series I believe and certainly
20515s	uh Casey for me was one of the players I
20517s	was really looking forward to coming
20518s	into this tournament uh not in the least
20521s	because his latest creation for this
20524s	meta game The Relic Demon Hunter is a
20526s	deck that I've put a lot of stock into
20527s	coming into this tournament I don't
20529s	think there's any better way to see if
20531s	it can perform than by watching Casey
20534s	the originator of the deck try and use
20536s	it to its full potential
20538s	oh I have a question for you saddle it
20542s	is a loaded question which deck is more
20546s	difficult to Pilot at its highest level
20549s	of play Relic Demon Hunter or Outcast
20552s	Demon Hunter
20553s	it so it is Relic Demon Hunter but that
20556s	is a valid question and it's closer than
20559s	most people would probably think let's
20560s	put it that way
20562s	okay yeah I I would say I agree and not
20565s	because of Any analysis that I've done
20568s	inside my own brain but just because I
20570s	trust you wholeheartedly thank you CJ
20572s	and uh and you said that that's a fact
20575s	so
20576s	for me it's irrefutable yeah
20579s	um I do so they have put more time into
20581s	Outcast Demon Hunter the last couple of
20583s	days just because I naturally have
20585s	played hundreds of games of Relic demon
20586s	onto this expansion just because it's
20588s	awesome and I love it and that happened
20589s	naturally
20590s	um so Outcast DH was a deck that I
20592s	specifically just kind of felt like I
20593s	had to practice for the last couple of
20594s	days
20596s	um and certainly when you do start to
20597s	get to grips with the deck you do kind
20600s	of unlock that hidden layer of like okay
20603s	I need to turn a bad hand into a win
20605s	somehow
20606s	um I need to consider various
20608s	probabilities from the outcast pool this
20610s	discover pool this generation pool
20611s	whatever else
20613s	um what's the best way to sequence that
20614s	we saw some of those turns previously
20616s	right was uh with is it recfam someone I
20619s	can't remember who it was so far so long
20621s	ago at this point where it was like
20622s	I-beam sequencing and when you're trying
20624s	to discover things and where your
20625s	discount was going to go and what
20627s	sequence you're going to play this in TJ
20629s	you've been trying this for eight years
20631s	at this point it can't be done I can't
20633s	be broken I'm too much of a professional
20635s	okay you're just gonna have to just
20637s	gonna have to learn this lesson doesn't
20638s	matter doesn't matter what platform
20640s	we're on even now here back on Twitch
20642s	can't be done I will just keep powering
20644s	through can't happen
20646s	I'm trying what
20648s	must have imagined it I'm sorry uh Casey
20652s	versus Saudi though I do think this
20654s	series is super interesting
20656s	um and I did specifically look at the
20658s	bands coming into this uh which if they
20661s	have been reporting correctly uh the
20664s	outcast Demon Hunter has been banned
20666s	from Saudi so Saudi can't play Demon
20667s	Hunter and Casey's priest has been
20669s	banned which to me I didn't think
20672s	Outcast Demon Hunter was a particularly
20674s	good deck in this series and Casey's
20676s	chosen to ban it which does come as a
20678s	little bit as a surprise to me I'm sure
20679s	Casey will take great Delight in telling
20681s	me why I'm wrong at some point but that
20683s	was certainly my initial reaction to
20685s	seeing the bands come
20686s	yeah and after you brought it up I sort
20689s	of uh took a glance and it is just you
20691s	know Outcast Demon Hunter would have had
20693s	just like pretty poor matchups across
20696s	the board but uh the players especially
20699s	at this high of a level tend to put a
20700s	lot of value on the outcast Demon Hunter
20702s	it is you have a very good deck I would
20704s	say in terms of just like raw stats
20707s	um one of the best if not the best decks
20709s	in the metagame it's bad mashups are not
20711s	terribly bad and it's good matchups are
20714s	very good
20716s	um which is this the sign of a a strong
20718s	deck and you know maybe in Conquest when
20720s	there's multiple chances and that's how
20722s	it's going to be but
20723s	um moving into this one uh we uh are all
20728s	the players playing cathedral in these
20729s	uh these Undead priests no everyone
20731s	definitely a Saudi vibe
20735s	yeah
20736s	surviving with some cathedrals buffing
20738s	and drawing you know feeling it
20742s	I did like seeing the hero power go on
20745s	the egg on the previous turn for Casey
20747s	it does just work out uh pretty
20750s	important just to get that damage on
20752s	there particularly if your opponent is
20753s	playing the cathedral build because then
20755s	that means that there will be less
20756s	Health to try and chew through uh for
20759s	relic of Extinction for a silver moon
20761s	plus AOE kind of clear a little bit
20764s	unfortunate to not be able to clear this
20766s	up with the outsider now
20769s	choosing to hold on to it as well which
20771s	I think I like it
20773s	yeah it's not like Outcast Demon Hunter
20775s	where you want to bank the discount on
20777s	the outcast cards because the only other
20778s	one is I-beam which is a static one cost
20780s	if it's an outcast position which it
20782s	will be everything else would come from
20784s	illidari studies I guess which would
20786s	already have the discounts you can save
20787s	it to be more targeted
20790s	um to where you want to put that two
20791s	damage so I like to hold
20793s	I agree
20799s	look how many cards are in this hand
20802s	I know Undead priests what is this
20806s	two of those cards are mind eaters as
20808s	well so this is gonna be one of those
20810s	games and this is the benefit of
20812s	location if you're gonna draw it with
20814s	egg early on
20815s	um often the way Demon Hunter wins this
20817s	matchup is they just get one big clear
20820s	going right and then from that point
20821s	there's just not enough reloads to beat
20825s	the amount of counter pressure that you
20826s	can put with like one relic of
20827s	dimensions for example right you do one
20830s	unleash fell AOE you know yourself back
20832s	to full health and then you can
20833s	basically ignore the next Port they make
20835s	and play relative dimensions and then do
20836s	something gross yourself
20838s	if your opponent constantly just has
20840s	seven or eight cards in hand that refill
20841s	is just always going to keep coming
20843s	which is going to make dealing uh
20846s	finding the turn to actually go on the
20847s	offensive a little bit more difficult
20851s	that is the truth that is the truth and
20855s	um uh Casey finds a very good clear and
20859s	has Relic Vault for relic of Dimensions
20861s	next turn and I think that uh sorry
20864s	realizes this and it's gonna say okay
20867s	well I kind of need to uh go a little
20870s	bit wider here hope that you know these
20873s	discounts don't hit full removal I
20875s	imagine there's not gonna be it is
20879s	good I was thinking maybe you fully
20882s	disrespect The Arcanist
20886s	and just play a two drop there knowing
20888s	that relic of Dimensions is coming out
20889s	with only a single Relic it would have
20891s	to be
20893s	like even unleash fell would be a little
20896s	bit awkward in that situation if it were
20897s	to come out I don't know yeah
20901s	Demon Hunter too many other good turns
20903s	at that point though right like they can
20905s	just go vizier into anything with spell
20907s	damage school teacher into anything with
20909s	spell damage right and you're giving
20910s	them really really strong turns at that
20913s	point so I think you have to respect
20915s	that I just hope that the dimensions
20917s	just isn't there yeah
20921s	yeah they I I was playing uh assuming
20924s	like knowing the knowledge that
20926s	Dimensions was going to be the play but
20927s	leaving The Arcanist up in any other
20930s	situation
20932s	could be catastrophic so
20935s	[Music]
20937s	I mean kind of plan here from Saudi
20939s	where he can just deal damage from off
20941s	boards and try and limit the healing not
20943s	really right Shadow word on death is
20945s	about all he's got
20948s	so he's gonna have to continue to play
20950s	minions here
20952s	void
20956s	void okay
20958s	I mean
20962s	starting to look seven moving forward
20964s	yeah like just it's six damage a turn
20968s	for the next two turn well I guess
20970s	you're not gonna be fitting in it Undead
20972s	on the next turn
20973s	uh but it is a lot of damage
20978s	six Mana Dimensions every card except
20981s	zymox would have been free at that point
20984s	uh so choosing to use the expensive
20986s	Dimensions uh which essentially says
20988s	Casey looked at the cards that cost mana
20990s	and the rest of his hand and said I'm
20992s	not playing any of those this turn so
20993s	I'll use the more expensive dimensions
20995s	and Bank more Mana for the following
20997s	term
20997s	[Music]
21004s	I-beam is huge
21006s	yep
21013s	how what's the Relic uh count at now
21017s	right now uh it has been relics have
21020s	been used five times I believe
21023s	hmm
21024s	[Music]
21025s	I was thinking maybe like leaving up the
21028s	six the uh shadowy spirit shadowed
21032s	spirit and like Relic vaulting the uh
21036s	phantasms last turn yeah I can see that
21038s	too uh if they were out of range of just
21040s	like uh uh Shadow word undeath could
21043s	have been good but it was if it was uh
21045s	just like if it was five five six six no
21047s	but it was six six seven seven that that
21049s	would have set up like uh Elite of
21051s	course Saudi to make some trades some
21054s	hero Powers could have been awkward but
21055s	does decide to keep it off board
21058s	um and the healing is
21062s	it's relatively limited but it could go
21064s	I-beam Relic ball oh okay looking for
21067s	the uh on the shell which is very likely
21069s	to hit hasn't hit one as getting four
21070s	draws here
21073s	okay ladari studies for high beams at
21075s	the very least oh Mrs once
21080s	okay no finds it
21083s	I'm just wearing these cards even coming
21085s	from like
21088s	those cards pop up on the screen he
21089s	plays so fast that you don't even see
21091s	what cardi clicks yeah before he does it
21094s	but uh this is quite good
21098s	and that should do it yes Demon Hunter
21103s	did a thing you died
21108s	on death and Imo will deal six no Mana
21112s	for hero power at the end of that
21114s	so can't even clear up one of the eight
21117s	eights here
21123s	I think this this set up now that you
21126s	see it right it goes to show Casey's
21129s	line of thinking with the like instead
21131s	of making five fives and six sixes for
21133s	two turns he made eights and nine nines
21136s	for one turn and both of those things
21139s	kill the opponent on the same turn right
21141s	because the the five fives and six sixes
21143s	would have taken two turns of actually
21144s	attacking to get through and threaten
21146s	lethal at that point
21147s	um so that little extra bit of security
21149s	with the healing may have arguably been
21151s	worth it
21153s	um that is just me trying to justify
21155s	what happened I think in that position I
21157s	also would have taught myself into just
21159s	making the giant minions and play that
21161s	turn and trying to heal on the following
21162s	term with multiple i-beams or whatever
21164s	with minions to them play on the other
21166s	sides interesting stuff for sure but I
21168s	think uh certainly with that deck and
21170s	with many others uh defaulting to the
21172s	thing that Casey did is never that bad
21174s	an idea
21175s	yeah so I'm proud of you that's some
21177s	very solid results oriented thinking
21179s	right there that's the kind of stuff
21180s	that's kind of stuff I'd love to hear I
21183s	feel like it's something we've been
21184s	missing throughout the broadcast this
21185s	far and I feel like uh it's something we
21187s	need to keep hammering home uh that if
21191s	it happens
21193s	it's correct
21195s	the number one rule of Hearthstone
21198s	but jumping into game number two here
21201s	priest again for for Saudi and uh
21203s	Casey's going to be moving over to the
21206s	death knight
21210s	yeah Frost death knight arguably be in
21212s	the deck of the tournament so far we're
21214s	seeing an awful lot of it in the
21215s	tournament
21217s	um it is also proven to be fairly
21219s	successful so far whereas a lot of other
21221s	decks have been hit and miss up until
21222s	this point
21233s	egg on one with double sidekick as well
21237s	pretty dreamy as terms of uh Frosty K
21240s	openings particularly against other
21242s	board based decks
21245s	might have menethil
21248s	is the pickup from the psychiconder that
21251s	could be good
21258s	head scratcher I've got one for you did
21261s	this match up get better for the priest
21263s	because void touch attendant rotated and
21266s	if so is it the only matchup
21272s	ah the only matchup of what where it got
21276s	better the only matchup that it got
21278s	better yeah
21282s	I would say this matchup got a whole
21284s	heck of a lot worse
21290s	wait no the other way four got a whole
21293s	heck of a lot worse for
21298s	the death knight
21301s	oh yes yeah agreed
21303s	yeah okay
21305s	because there is no void touched
21307s	attended in the deck is the question
21309s	I don't know
21313s	see there's always a risk to play in the
21315s	match-up right you play it it gets
21316s	Frozen and you end up just getting
21317s	burned down yourself from that point by
21319s	yeah
21321s	I also feel like losing like damage from
21323s	hand in swings like void Shard also yeah
21326s	was like a pretty big deal because void
21328s	Shard you could use on a frozen board to
21331s	stabilize life total but still do damage
21333s	without a without a board if it was
21335s	frozen it's just a thing like that also
21338s	contributes to it the deck itself has
21340s	become more board based right it's a
21342s	little less of a bird deck than it used
21344s	to be
21345s	um you play a lot more Undead so
21346s	obviously this 5-4 now comes back into
21348s	the deck because it hits an undead much
21349s	more consistently and it is much more
21351s	about just sticking aboard and hitting
21353s	your opponent and frost DK just tends to
21356s	skip that period of the game in a lot of
21358s	situations
21360s	yep
21363s	I think that's accurate
21365s	but right now I mean
21368s	outside of like specifically Shadow word
21371s	on death
21372s	the the priest doesn't really have many
21376s	ways to or can play well from behind on
21380s	board you rely so much on the board you
21382s	need to have the swing with shadowboard
21384s	on death in order to even have a chance
21386s	like at this point it's like almost a
21388s	situation where Saudi has to ignore the
21390s	board on the other side or at least
21392s	think about what the game state looks
21394s	like if you ignore the board on the
21396s	other side and just keep hitting face
21398s	get damage out of these minions while
21399s	you can before they start getting Frozen
21420s	what's in the nogling
21424s	I didn't actually see which ones was
21426s	taken the options weren't great uh I
21429s	think the default choice would have been
21431s	vampiric blood but actually rarely for a
21434s	death knight Casey actually has corpse
21436s	problems right now so yeah it took
21438s	glacial Advance
21439s	um because I guess you just didn't want
21440s	to spend the corpses on the vampiric
21442s	club
21443s	actually all the way back down to zero
21445s	corpses now which is a little better but
21453s	I feel like it's very rare that you sit
21455s	there and like wow the Death Note just
21457s	doesn't have enough corpses to play any
21458s	of their cards that just doesn't ever
21460s	happen
21464s	she got a tree uh there's a good swing
21466s	back
21473s	that's a hit Horner winter manipulator
21475s	just to get that extra corpse in make
21477s	sure you can get that break point as
21479s	well to try and hit the minions off the
21480s	board
21482s	uh also
21485s	potential for lethal but
21488s	doesn't hit it but at four and uh
21491s	basically any burn spell any minion
21493s	sticking
21494s	is
21496s	just game right it's just oh yeah hero
21498s	power riding fan yeah is there any way
21500s	to block that no
21508s	like a mind-ear Malcolm
21511s	into
21512s	[Laughter]
21514s	um deck for added till Equity that is
21518s	strictly correct the optimal play from
21521s	Casey as always
21524s	but yeah I had to set up already uh
21526s	Rowdy fan reasonably new addition to the
21529s	deck I think most people started messing
21531s	with it after the Nerf to location
21534s	um I think you know if you're playing on
21535s	holy death knight maybe location still
21537s	makes the cut because you just so
21538s	consistently have a board that even two
21540s	charges of Yetis is super chill you're
21542s	down with that
21543s	um but with frost decays that little bit
21545s	of inconsistency that sometimes even
21547s	with three charged location it just
21549s	wasn't that great a card because you
21551s	were you know hero powering to get
21552s	minions for it she just didn't draw a
21554s	very minion heavy hand and then combine
21556s	that with the loss of charge and I think
21558s	people started thinking of ways to cut
21560s	it fairly rapidly and honestly it's one
21562s	of those changes where you kind of sit
21564s	there and think okay was Rowdy fan just
21566s	always better was Rowdy fan actually
21568s	better than three charge location all
21570s	this time because it is a really really
21571s	strong film all right it's insane like
21575s	you you make the actual egg fight
21580s	instead of destroying the egg so it
21582s	makes AOE clears even tougher like you
21585s	need to answer either the Rowdy fan or
21588s	the egg
21590s	before you can even get through to the
21592s	3-3 so
21594s	um uh against like let's say Relic Demon
21598s	Hunter who wants to use like a single
21600s	clear for your board uh if you're
21602s	destroying the egg right away to make it
21605s	a four or five it makes it easier for
21607s	your opponent to clear yeah so
21610s	um I like the Roddy fan Roddy fan kind
21612s	of like sneaking in there it's like
21614s	I guess it's in just the demon hunters
21616s	and the death Knights but I feel like
21617s	that card's just nuts for any deck that
21620s	plays that plays a board it's in the
21622s	demon hunters and the Death Knight so
21624s	like 75 of the meta in total yeah yeah
21627s	yeah yeah yeah I feel like you could put
21629s	it in Rogue too maybe
21632s	oh Shadow step Rowdy fan by the way that
21635s	doesn't do anything
21636s	never mind
21636s	[Laughter]
21645s	wait a second shouldn't it do something
21649s	what yeah what is around here
21651s	I'm pretty sure it says well this is
21654s	alive yeah I mean it depends where the
21656s	Hearthstone has a technical definition
21657s	of what alive means right
21664s	yeah it's alive in the hand yeah
21670s	I know I feel like we're we're gonna
21672s	have to call a referee over on this one
21674s	for this theoretical situation that
21676s	we've concocted fortunately it's the
21678s	game client it's the only referee we
21680s	need
21681s	speaking of concoctions
21687s	well we're about to
21690s	the word concoction just appeared on the
21692s	stream for a split second That's The
21694s	Alchemist came down you can't transition
21695s	to something by speaking of X and then
21698s	your justification bit what we were
21699s	about to well we I Feel Like We Only are
21702s	because you just said it
21704s	well we I I was speaking of
21707s	concoctions earlier ah and by earlier I
21710s	mean 30 seconds ago and because I said
21713s	the word and then
21715s	this is concoction Rogue or Miracle
21717s	Rogue whatever you want to call it
21722s	in the morning that's so huge you saw
21725s	the prayer hands there from Casey as
21726s	well that Miss on the 50 50 from the
21729s	thorosome was so huge because they
21731s	enabled
21733s	and it's like the second best concoction
21736s	in that situation I think he may have
21738s	taken draw four over it yeah wait anime
21741s	dead that's cool too anime dead fan of
21743s	knives off the drawer as well to
21745s	completely clear it up
21747s	animate dead for zero gets himself a
21750s	blood fan wrapped her back
21752s	to be clear the other version of this
21754s	turn was you did nothing
21756s	that was that yeah that was the version
21758s	of this turn where the uh the two damage
21761s	went to your three two instead of your
21762s	face
21763s	yeah you played a a cult in your fight
21766s	probably yeah and dag it up or something
21769s	like that yeah
21770s	yeah I guess you could play Colton
21772s	probably would have been called neo5
21773s	plus putricide but
21780s	I guess it's still pretty good clears
21783s	off the board on uh gets rid of the uh
21785s	professional future side puts some stuff
21787s	in the way but here we go
21793s	it's my work
21795s	oh there's a horn okay thanks for
21797s	clarifying oh yeah I was unsure anybody
21804s	AMS is massive here
21812s	certainly be shipping all of this face
21818s	we'll see what the Colossal gods have to
21819s	say
21820s	[Music]
21825s	your thumbs
21837s	step concocter replay concocted stand
21841s	over zero yeah
21844s	and then still has concoction in with
21846s	that as well
21848s	[Music]
21850s	destroyed
21854s	um yeah I would say that's quite
21855s	powerful what a powerful turn
21863s	actually this clears up quite a bit of
21865s	it
21867s	at least the uh the the strong stuff but
21870s	still getting through the collect shell
21872s	is a lot of time that Casey's buying
21875s	it's a pretty big deal plus the death
21877s	rattle
21888s	let's try and find
21890s	okay I guess it is just draw Nikola can
21892s	trade over the five six pretty easily
21894s	you can play the cold Neo by itself
21897s	yeah near flight is really strong here
21898s	gives you at least an outside chance of
21900s	getting some of these minions to connect
21901s	to face
21903s	I do like this option over just playing
21905s	crab because you know uh you've seen
21907s	fridge right so as soon as you see
21908s	fridge you know you're getting
21910s	frostworms Theory so there is basically
21912s	no point in making a play to the board
21914s	on that turn you have to play nearby if
21916s	you want to make any progression the
21917s	next turn so this line makes a lot of
21919s	sense
21920s	yep
21924s	the one thing that Saudi does have gone
21926s	for him is that
21928s	still at 29 health and a ton in the
21931s	freezes in hand plus another uh European
21934s	busier so
21935s	has some some ways to fight back but
21938s	this is going to be a lot of Health gain
21940s	back in the way of Casey and this turn
21942s	is going to be relatively weak
21943s	regardless there's only three corpses so
21945s	the manipulator's really not that strong
21948s	especially with an immune minion on
21950s	board
21953s	oh true
21959s	oh
21964s	I
21969s	okay great
21970s	let's go
21980s	I was thinking like because Casey's
21982s	gonna get like a full turn of tempo here
21984s	like corpse explosion maybe not be
21987s	terrible but once the corpses for the
21989s	manipulator and then the grave strength
21991s	will be the payoff once like you start
21993s	getting the off-rostworm furies down
21997s	um because even just that with europower
21998s	grave strength becomes quite a bit of
22000s	damage
22001s	okay
22002s	yeah trading with minions face with the
22005s	weapons again Casey knows that his board
22007s	is borderline Irrelevant in this
22010s	position because of the threat of the
22012s	frost ones Furies on the other side so
22014s	just making sure to take as little face
22015s	damage as possible and push the damage
22017s	he can with his face
22025s	shoot it yeah I was trying
22029s	I was over the manipulator a little bit
22031s	he's like ah is that a yeah it's just so
22035s	inconsistent on this board
22043s	[Music]
22045s	okay not gonna be playing the armor five
22048s	five this turn at the very least
22053s	or last card could have been huge there
22055s	if the last card was like a prep or a
22057s	shadow step or something like that this
22058s	could have been a real turn again making
22061s	ghosts is still kind of whatever in this
22063s	situation though because you saw fridge
22065s	get played so you know there's a high
22066s	likelihood that you will get yeah double
22068s	frostwam period over the course of this
22070s	game
22072s	double Destroyer here
22089s	that's good good draw that is indeed
22092s	good
22099s	yeah it looks like a teacher naggling
22101s	weapon kind of turn
22104s	oh yeah howling Blast for sure yep
22122s	foreign
22126s	huge in terms of making up extra damage
22128s	the howling blast and also not
22130s	insignificant that it just completely
22132s	cuts off any kind of ridiculous draca
22134s	out this turn although it's Casey one of
22135s	the cut draca kind of Gamers a lot of
22137s	people have been I personally have not
22139s	checked that just yet yeah no
22141s	jacket yeah
22148s	which as I explained in detail earlier I
22149s	don't hate but you know
22154s	uh if a minion survives here it is
22159s	uh is this
22165s	nine
22168s	yeah grave strength oh there's a
22171s	sidekick too yeah uh psychic yeah
22175s	I think it was exact for the sidekick
22177s	though
22181s	yep
22186s	showing the grave strength started
22188s	showing the foresight instead of going
22190s	with the hero power plus plus top deck
22193s	option in that situation which as I
22196s	clearly explained play in the previous
22197s	game when Casey did it is strictly wrong
22199s	you were supposed to play the top deck
22201s	or massive kill equity and you know it's
22204s	you know it would work on Casey because
22206s	Casey did it therefore believes it so
22209s	Casey Would tilt in that situation
22213s	that's how you know
22215s	that's how you know
22217s	uh going for the honorable lethal
22220s	yeah I already had it set it up
22223s	perfectly
22225s	Gigi's friend here you go
22229s	um
22231s	but now the uh I guess the Rogue might
22236s	be a little bit of a tougher deck to get
22238s	across than the first two for Casey
22240s	given the rest of the lineup for Saudi
22243s	yeah it seems like we found that
22245s	situation uh to be the case often in
22249s	many of these matchups yeah Rogue is a
22253s	little bit awkward it's it's very 50 50
22256s	ish across the board
22259s	um slight favorable against Relic Demon
22262s	Hunter but nowhere near as good as it
22263s	used to be and then slight unfavorable
22266s	against Shadow priest for example big
22268s	unfavorable against Frost DK and I think
22270s	when you say we've seen Rogue struggle
22273s	that's a big part of the reason why is
22275s	we're seeing so much Frost DK being
22277s	played in this tournament
22279s	um which can just be a nightmare matchup
22281s	for the Rogue as we've just seen
22288s	[Music]
22295s	all right
22300s	in case you get it done
22302s	whoa
22304s	almost had some symmetry going on there
22307s	actually not symmetry a pattern
22311s	yes
22316s	hazy not a bad outcome from concoct to
22319s	oh especially now are we gonna see step
22323s	and Tempo immediately we are not okay
22325s	okay he's gonna hold off yeah I think
22327s	seeing then draw off the top which could
22329s	be like uh location location yep yeah so
22333s	you can go location coin concocter play
22336s	the concoction for zero step the
22338s	concoctor keep going Etc
22342s	thank you
22345s	draw
22350s	oh okay I mean that's not bad
22354s	well he gets to try again he does get to
22357s	try again yeah
22358s	what do we got what do we got okay
22361s	there's drops yeah okay there's yellow
22362s	more yellow
22364s	that's better yep okay that one instead
22367s	yep draw plus hazy
22370s	oh geez what is that uh
22373s	yeah it's the
22376s	I don't know
22377s	[Music]
22378s	it's a warlock card
22382s	shadow
22387s	born
22389s	oh
22391s	oh
22392s	[Music]
22394s	okay well
22395s	wait what did it do death route reduced
22397s	the cost of a shadow spell is that what
22399s	it did the shadow spell in Hand by uh
22402s	I mean the door of Shadows is now free
22404s	right that's sure yeah you'd think a
22408s	ghostly strike would be Shadow also but
22409s	it's not
22411s	that's true it isn't yeah I've never
22412s	really thought of that you're kind of
22413s	right yeah you think a lot of the Spells
22415s	I mean dwarf Shadows literally says the
22418s	word Shadows on it so if it wasn't a
22420s	shadow spell we'd have problems if we
22422s	would uh but uh
22424s	everything else looks like it could be a
22427s	shadow spell but isn't I'm pretty sure
22428s	that's the only Shadow spell uh in the
22430s	deck uh Shadow steps
22434s	and Shadow of demise but also Shadow
22436s	device season three
22438s	yeah please prep a shadow spell no
22441s	feels very shadowy but
22445s	three door Shadows
22447s	let's see it
22452s	uh
22454s	uh okay
22457s	slowest possible card I'm sure not
22459s	necessarily what Casey was looking for
22461s	here though that is an insane draw
22463s	though bone Spike off the go of the
22465s	ghostly strike huge
22472s	still 20 Health to play with assuming
22475s	the egg goes face not the worst position
22478s	nope not at all still probably just
22481s	about has time to drop that ashara next
22483s	time
22488s	all right prasadi side
22493s	um
22494s	could just play it slight I guess it
22497s	wouldn't be slow just go like shadowed
22499s	Spirit Plus hero power another option
22501s	would be
22503s	is I think you want to weave in a hero
22504s	power
22507s	would be mine Seer and then hear a power
22514s	yeah okay fine
22520s	I do like this though if you're making
22521s	this play trading open the egg so that
22524s	you at least have significant amount of
22525s	pressure on board and hear a powering
22526s	face I do think is a better way of going
22528s	about it
22529s	um because obviously cars division we
22530s	can see the ashara in hand I think if
22532s	you played a weak term which didn't put
22534s	many stats on board in Europe you don't
22537s	want to give your opponent that time to
22538s	play ashara right because you know that
22540s	is one of the fast swings that can
22542s	actually allow Casey to start pressuring
22544s	you instead so now he knows that if he
22546s	wants to play ashara he's he's taking
22547s	six minimum next turn just from what you
22549s	can see on the board
22554s	gotta do it anyway though yep likewise I
22557s	don't see a better plan
22560s	that's the worst draw in the deck I
22562s	think for this point in time
22564s	yeah
22566s	this uh horn is
22568s	essentially gonna decide the game I feel
22573s	looking for something good
22577s	[Music]
22578s	oh
22585s	does that qualify
22588s	uh something could change uh I would say
22593s	yeah absolutely also uh the horn is the
22597s	shadow of demise right now so I can go
22600s	again next turn
22604s	that's if Saudi even finds a way to deal
22607s	with this Behemoth because if he doesn't
22609s	then it doesn't matter because you're
22611s	not gonna outpace
22613s	a million healing every turn
22617s	[Music]
22620s	currently can't even kill the Orca right
22623s	like this is worst case scenario
22634s	uh what was in there shadowed Spirit egg
22638s	arms dealer okay uh I mean
22642s	what about sake Contra can I can that
22644s	get us anywhere it could have yeah like
22647s	you could have played psychic conjurer
22650s	with the plan of just killing Majorca
22652s	and therefore limiting the amount of
22653s	healing your opponent was gonna get
22654s	that's not winning right like you would
22657s	at that point you would not make this
22659s	board at that point she'd have to spend
22661s	mana on The Conjurer and on the thing
22663s	that you got from The Conjurer that
22664s	helped you kill the Orca so I don't
22666s	think that ends up winning the game
22669s	oh
22672s	yucks
22679s	there's a photo full clear nearly
22682s	because the concoction
22685s	is deal damage plus destroy
22688s	yeah so it's a full clear the last it's
22690s	a full clear into the behemoth at the
22692s	end of the day yeah
22696s	oh that's possible outcome it's gonna be
22698s	back to nearly full health
22701s	for Casey there it is oh yes
22706s	don't keep your thoughts to yourself
22710s	first okay prep
22714s	foreign
22727s	from the uh from The Conjurer actually
22730s	couldn't be but yeah we know it could
22732s	not have been that yeah but so yeah
22734s	saudi's perspective
22736s	yeah
22737s	like at least a fan of knives you know
22741s	krabato no it could be covered
22746s	all right
22748s	here's a five six
22750s	uh a pit fighter is that the vanilla the
22753s	first vanilla five six pit fighter yep
22757s	I gotta speak your language because I
22759s	know you like to say those types of
22761s	things it's a blood fin Raptor it's a
22763s	spider tank
22764s	it's a boulder fist over
22767s	[Music]
22768s	finder saddle there you go
22771s	you happy I uh honestly that was a very
22773s	strange existential experience for me
22776s	then I thought I was just in a cool with
22778s	myself it was really strange
22780s	[Music]
22786s	I mean I know that we've been off air
22788s	for like nearly five or six months at
22790s	this point have you spent the entire
22792s	time working on that impression because
22794s	that was uncanny honestly actually my
22797s	impression of you is nearly spot on like
22800s	you wouldn't even believe how good it is
22802s	now with how much I've been practicing
22803s	it yeah but the last time it happened
22807s	that wasn't even the perfected version
22808s	we just heard no the last time it
22810s	happened I I got scolded so now I do
22813s	that's true yeah
22818s	heavily caricatured version of it to
22820s	avoid subtle copyright issues got it
22825s	protected under fair use yeah since the
22828s	Advent of AI technology I do very
22830s	aggressively protect my voice as an IP
22832s	just just
22834s	uh I'm glad to hear it glad to hear it
22837s	yeah all right grave digging that's
22839s	something
22842s	okay
22848s	might as well I'm pretty sure that's
22850s	like the last spell left yeah the
22852s	problem is you know about the astalor on
22855s	the other side though right and you're
22856s	just leaving up a nine nine
22859s	I'm not presenting Alternatives I'm
22862s	being a problems guy and not a Solutions
22863s	guy TJ I admit it but I'm just saying
22868s	there's no Solutions in there but yeah
22870s	that's that'll uh
22872s	cleaned the board push enough damage
22874s	it's not going to be lethal just yet
22876s	but for all intents and purposes it is
22879s	and that will mean uh saudi's gonna stay
22882s	in it to the last moment maybe there's a
22885s	man called malgoop
22887s	bullnord Falls whispered we can go out
22890s	on our own terms
22893s	uh
22896s	on our own so that's good yeah that's
22897s	good good stuff good stuff but Casey's
22899s	gonna take the series three to one and
22902s	move on to the top eight going into
22905s	tomorrow so very nice series uh very uh
22910s	I'll quickly dispatch Saudi but somebody
22913s	put up a good fight but like uh like the
22915s	way he played these these matchups just
22917s	at the end of the day
22919s	didn't make it through
22921s	yep
22922s	and I think this is the point in the day
22924s	where I do the Casey the Casey Spiel
22927s	again
22929s	um because I still don't think Casey
22930s	gets enough respect as a top level
22932s	Hearthstone player I I just don't he is
22935s	the greatest deck builder in the history
22937s	of hearthstone and I I stand by that at
22939s	this point like in terms of high level
22942s	meta game and competitive meta game I
22944s	don't think anyone has had as bigger
22946s	impact on what Dex people are playing as
22948s	Casey has it's in it again this
22950s	expansion with Relic Demon Hunter
22951s	various forms of Miracle Rogue have come
22954s	from Casey we go back to GM where it was
22956s	The Practice Group with Casey bunny RDU
22958s	the deck list that those group that
22961s	group was playing which tended to
22963s	permeate throughout the rest of GM and
22965s	just be them what everyone was playing
22966s	and those decks largely came from Casey
22968s	I honestly it the like the meme goes
22972s	like when Casey builds a deck that means
22973s	those cards are getting nerfed that that
22975s	seems to be what happens is Casey builds
22977s	a deck it terrorizes the meta game
22978s	things get nerfed he just builds the
22980s	next day that's been the pattern of the
22982s	last three or four years at this point I
22984s	think Casey is absolutely one of those
22987s	people that needs to be put in the
22989s	conversation for the highest Echelon
22991s	player yeah and the only time people
22994s	aren't playing Casey decks is when
22995s	Casey's not building
22997s	Casey Dex it's really the the only way
22999s	to to put it but we will be seeing play
23002s	Jump Right Next who wants to do that
23007s	uh but that's our second decider match
23010s	um Casey Moving on top eight if you
23012s	liked what you saw you can catch him
23013s	tomorrow uh playing in the quarterfinals
23016s	uh which means we have two more matches
23018s	left on the books for today so we're
23020s	gonna go to a quick break but we come
23022s	back more decider match action here in
23024s	the group stage of the Hearthstone
23025s	Master tour spring Championship don't go
23027s	anywhere
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23041s	thank you
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23073s	foreign
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23151s	thank you
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23195s	foreign
23198s	shoes
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23243s	thank you
23284s	thank you
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23318s	thank you
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23360s	hello everyone and welcome back we've
23362s	got plenty more matches coming up for
23364s	you to round out the day I'm everything
23366s	joining me for this one is idler Vice
23367s	and we've got a pretty good one I'm
23369s	excited for this I'm actually glad we
23370s	fell on this matchup it's going to be
23372s	pocket train versus tonsoku again
23374s	continuing the theme at the end of the
23376s	day to see who makes it tomorrow and who
23379s	unfortunately has to try again next time
23381s	uh are you looking forward to this one
23383s	as well oh yeah I mean we've talked
23385s	about why we like tansoku but pocket
23387s	train uh it's really enjoyable for us
23390s	pretty terrible for him I suppose seeing
23392s	his end of the month streams where he's
23394s	just having a mental breakdown while
23396s	grinding for that top finish but he has
23398s	managed to get those top finishes and
23401s	qualify in here so uh would be really
23404s	exciting for for either take a win here
23407s	pocket train very well known for his APM
23409s	and uh respect we'll be getting to see
23412s	some of that over on the Miracle road
23413s	yeah and as I said as we move it on
23416s	towards you know sort of rounding out
23417s	the day with this and I have one more
23419s	match left before we close out for the
23421s	day yeah we do we did just see Casey
23423s	join gamer rvg to get through out of
23425s	group b unfortunately of course we do it
23427s	means we do have to have two other
23429s	players knocked out so Sally just gone
23431s	there losing to Casey and then surrender
23433s	a little bit earlier on in the day but
23435s	this is the one we're on now it's going
23437s	to be that group C see who's going to
23438s	join Walder to make it out and like I
23441s	said it's going to be pocket trainer
23442s	tonsoku at both players with fairly
23445s	aggressive lineups I believe there's a
23447s	double Demon Hunter ban so both players
23450s	not having access to that and the big
23452s	difference here is the Mage versus The
23454s	Shadow priest um we'll talk about this
23456s	like before we went live but where would
23458s	you fall if you were making an
23460s	aggressive lineup right uh would you
23462s	bring one of these would you bring both
23464s	would you bring neither
23466s	so I have always been more of a mage
23468s	player myself and I do think solid Alibi
23471s	and you know Cold Case can give you some
23474s	of those edges in matchups against other
23476s	aggressive decks you do have to survive
23479s	that early game where the others tend to
23480s	be better at getting on board but if you
23483s	land a solid deathborne or you know just
23486s	start pushing damage with solid Alibi to
23488s	protect you I mean there can be no
23490s	stopping you at that point
23491s	yeah I do feel they they're weirdly
23493s	similar but in the fact that the priest
23495s	has better minions and the Mage has
23497s	better spells right at least uh from the
23500s	way I view it anyway but just taking a
23502s	look at what's going to be banned out at
23504s	least for now because I I do think these
23506s	ones are going to be banned out at least
23508s	the uh demon Hunters are but we are
23510s	going to see again just way more death
23512s	knight than I thought we were actually
23514s	going to see played so both players will
23516s	have that uh Frost at death knight to
23518s	get over the line but even within those
23520s	builds and it's not like there's a sort
23523s	of cookie cutter death knight for frost
23525s	build right it's like we are seeing
23527s	players have a few cards different here
23529s	a few cards different there and I think
23531s	that's pretty interesting because
23532s	although it's still early in the sort of
23535s	rotation and new expansion meta it's not
23538s	like Frost death knight itself is a
23541s	brand new archetype bro
23543s	yeah it really only gained just a few
23545s	cards was even running construct quarter
23547s	before the Nerf at which point they put
23549s	in the Rowdy fan instead a couple of
23551s	players have gone for this hardcore
23553s	cultist which does add a little bit of
23555s	an edge against things like the outcast
23557s	Demon Hunter and then posic has been a
23561s	pretty excellent inclusion for a lot of
23563s	players here I think because it plays
23566s	naturally to the deck strengths you
23567s	don't really care about them playing the
23570s	three threes if they want to put them
23571s	out there because you just freeze them
23572s	anyway
23574s	yeah and I think like this card when I
23576s	first saw it I was like okay I mean it
23578s	looks fine but I was like you're just
23581s	giving your opponent cards is that
23583s	really a good thing and then when you
23584s	realize how it actually plays out you
23586s	know after you've seen it a couple of
23588s	times you're like oh this is really
23589s	awkward because again let's say your
23592s	opponent could play the three threes
23594s	well they've just played some three
23596s	threes and you're playing Frosty okay
23598s	you're like yeah sounds great you play
23600s	two plane three threes and I'll carry on
23603s	with my life and probably win that game
23604s	of hearthstone so yeah I do agree in a
23607s	bit of a surprise factor I think for me
23608s	positive I did not think it was going to
23611s	be as uh playable or good as it actually
23613s	is and another card that stuck out as
23616s	well there that we saw from tonsoku
23618s	earlier today is the idol right like the
23620s	the weapon actually looking pretty good
23623s	in that priest too just giving those
23624s	like cheap hero powers out of nowhere
23627s	yeah one of those cards that you expect
23629s	it to be there mostly for the overheal
23632s	package the priest got but it doesn't
23633s	say you have to be having a heel hero
23636s	power to use it so it has made its way
23638s	into some of these shadow priests lists
23640s	just because it saves you I suppose
23642s	three Mana when you consider that it
23643s	costs one and while it can mess up some
23647s	of your dreads for Undead damage stuff
23650s	off the uh your your favorite card in
23653s	that shadow priest deck The Necromancer
23655s	yes the Necromancer uh it that also just
23658s	gets you a fair bit of early tempo
23660s	yeah it's one of those things where the
23663s	the problem I found with playing Shadow
23664s	priest is obviously the hero power is
23667s	strong right it's a you know better Mage
23669s	ping but a lot of the time you don't
23672s	want to be spending two mana on it so
23674s	even if you have to commit the one then
23676s	you have those options later where you
23678s	can say play Necromancer on four and
23681s	hero power minion away and suddenly
23683s	although it did cost you a little
23685s	earlier on the tempo swing as you know
23687s	you kind of mentioned it is huge right
23688s	because you're just dealing two for zero
23691s	wherever you want and pressuring with
23693s	additional minions anyway so as you
23695s	mentioned in let's say if there was a
23697s	major versus priest matchup uh in in
23700s	this one that's one of the sort of turns
23702s	the priest can make that says well
23704s	actually I kill because the major
23705s	minions are kind of British early on in
23708s	terms of their actual stats it's like oh
23710s	well I just kill one of your things play
23712s	one of my things and then your answer is
23714s	to play one thing next turn and it's
23716s	never going to keep up so yeah I do
23718s	think it's an interesting inclusion I've
23719s	not been playing the list with the
23720s	weapon in myself I'm definitely going to
23722s	try it maybe not tonight because it's
23724s	getting late for me but tomorrow when I
23726s	wake up I'll be uh talking some games in
23728s	there as well but overall do you think
23730s	any particular player is going to be
23732s	favored going into this because other
23735s	than those two deck differences like do
23738s	you think that there's any particular
23739s	favorite overall here
23742s	you know tough call with both the
23744s	outcast Stephen Hunters being banned I
23746s	would be inclined to favor tansoku a
23750s	little bit with the shadow priest I feel
23752s	like it is better suited to get under
23755s	something like uh Frosty K and the Rogue
23759s	my so I wonder if the reason for leaving
23762s	up Frosty K is just that it's easier
23766s	to potentially get under it like
23768s	obviously frostworms Fury is a nightmare
23770s	of a card to deal with as a board-based
23771s	deck but it does come out on turn seven
23773s	yeah yeah
23776s	oh
23777s	you're going to game one pocket train is
23780s	going to be rocking the Mage and I guess
23781s	I'll I'll give you a different question
23783s	do you think the winner of this series
23786s	is going to be heavily decided by who
23787s	gets the Mage or the priest Over The
23790s	Line
23791s	because do you think they're gonna be
23792s	the problem Dex a smidge of
23794s	yeah I think that's a pretty good way of
23796s	putting it because they are the fourth
23797s	deck they are just a little bit behind
23799s	these other three uh
23801s	you know it could honestly even from a
23804s	mental standpoint getting your fourth
23806s	Deck Over The Finish Line first may just
23808s	sort of hype you up to then kind of
23809s	Snowball the rest of your lineup
23811s	yeah I can see the snap phrase picked up
23813s	by pocket training that's an interesting
23815s	knock-on effect obviously this was a bit
23817s	of a while ago now but suddenly snap
23819s	freeze is good against sinstone
23821s	graveyard because obviously a while ago
23823s	those minions had stealth which they do
23824s	right so uh you know one Mana go away
23828s	for a turn for a you know a 10 10 9 9 11
23831s	11 whatever we've seen uh it's gonna be
23832s	pretty strong but tonsoka's like that is
23835s	that would be a good card wouldn't it
23837s	I'll have one as well thank you
23840s	but you know sometimes with the
23841s	suspicious Alchemist I think you're just
23843s	looking at which one of these would I
23845s	actually not mind having and in the case
23847s	of a miracle Rogue you know it's a cheap
23850s	spell if I get it I get it if I don't
23851s	it's not clogging up my hand
23853s	[Music]
23856s	soku is starting to uh get quite the
23859s	collection of cheap cars together with
23861s	that sinstone
23863s	so probably this turn just to
23866s	Chuck it down and then next turn looks
23868s	like a potential pop-off foreign
23873s	graveyard nerfed twice now not only does
23877s	the ghost not have stealth but it used
23878s	to be two mana and in spite of all that
23881s	Miracle Rogue has managed to perform
23884s	quite successfully not even that it's
23887s	like in spite of all that Sandstone
23889s	graveyard it's still the backbone of the
23891s	deck right it's like it's not even as if
23894s	oh well you you still play it you know
23896s	because sure why not it's not that nerve
23898s	but it's actually just the core of the
23900s	deck anyway and along with other support
23902s	of course so I'm talking now with the
23905s	bone Spike suddenly
23907s	it's a lot of cards that look very
23909s	playable to me
23912s	I wonder how many resources will be
23915s	spent here though because tansoku knows
23917s	with that location played that pucker
23920s	train can just freeze and then destroy
23922s	with his own snap freeze so
23926s	how much do you want to commit you kind
23928s	of have to make a ghost that's big
23929s	enough to get snap Frozen but still can
23932s	serve enough resources that you can do
23934s	another pop-off in a couple of turns I
23936s	think this looks okay because there's
23938s	putrecide and because there's the you
23940s	know basically even with this Shadow
23942s	step used plansoku still has a ton of
23945s	stuff to do
23946s	so I think even going this far I mean
23950s	some players might think well hang on a
23951s	minute the shadow step now the coin this
23953s	is all too much but console is still
23956s	retaining Resources by doing all of this
23959s	it's not like he's emptying his hand
23961s	right and then knowing that this 99 is
23963s	gonna die
23965s	and this is something I like about
23966s	having hipster in the deck you know it
23969s	needs that criteria of being
23971s	too matter to discover something
23974s	and even though it's spells that were
23976s	not included in your opponent's deck
23978s	it's actually uh leaves some pretty good
23981s	options oh no I was hyping up tonsoku
23984s	saying like yeah this play is good it's
23985s	got tons of resources and then as soon
23987s	as that play happened from pocket train
23989s	yeah tonsok was slapping himself in the
23991s	face so I actually think he forgot
23995s	um which is unfortunate but I actually
23997s	still think it was fine like you never
23999s	want your 99 to die but if you made a
24002s	five five pocket trains not gonna use
24005s	that combo right like hansoku had to go
24008s	in a little bit there oh yeah you have
24011s	to give an attractive enough Target so
24013s	and I think as you say whether
24014s	intentionally or not you know there's a
24016s	rewind here there's concoctions there's
24018s	astelor there's still a lot of cards uh
24020s	rewind could even you know get you a
24022s	coin back or something I think the
24024s	concern now is not giving too strong of
24026s	a deathborne
24028s	I will say as well extra shout out to
24031s	the uh players in the sort of Asia
24032s	Pacific side of the world because
24035s	they've literally just been playing all
24037s	night and that is something I would 100
24039s	struggle with I struggle to make sense
24042s	talking when I've been a casting APAC
24045s	time zone never mind trying to compare
24047s	very high level so tonsoku may be
24049s	feeling the effects of a little bit of
24050s	fatigue really I'm sure he's got the
24052s	ability to recover
24054s	just clearing up all the Minions here to
24057s	not give too strong of a deathborn
24059s	but that's three fully infused Frozen
24063s	touches yeah
24065s	deathborn number two being burnt but I
24069s	was talking about this with Lorinda not
24071s	too long ago
24072s	but Frozen touch especially when you get
24074s	extras it is infinite damage it's so
24078s	brutal
24080s	you really only ever need to but when
24083s	you end up with three like this it's
24085s	just
24086s	such a problem to overcome
24089s	because the best thing about it is when
24090s	you end up with three unless you're
24092s	being very unless there's a lot of
24094s	symmetry with when you got the third one
24096s	or you know the second and third or
24098s	whatever you can afford to just throw
24099s	one away even if it's not infused right
24101s	because two is enough so it just gives
24104s	you so many options to you know to only
24106s	use this one as removal do I just throw
24108s	them all face I have two Mana spare and
24111s	one not infused
24112s	I'll just maybe launch that to open up
24115s	some pen space if there's like a you
24116s	know a volume up in hand and you need
24118s	some space like all the options are
24120s	there for pocket training the onus is
24122s	now very much from tonsoku to do
24124s	something big to fight back because
24126s	Rocket's still on 30 health and still
24128s	has a lot of freezes left
24130s	and that's something big Mages have to
24132s	be
24133s	generating cards that heal we see
24136s	ancient of Laura there which could be
24137s	used for healing uh there is Sun Fury
24140s	clergy which I think was a nod to
24142s	aggressive meta that we're seeing here
24146s	but I don't know if it'll be enough in
24148s	the face of all these Frozen touches and
24151s	location very very powerful when your
24154s	opponent is just making a big minion
24156s	at least tonsoku knows the snap craze is
24159s	gone because even though these minions
24161s	can be frozen if tonsoku can sustain
24164s	it's still an 88 that has to dive
24167s	somewhat right unless obviously like a
24169s	drink and lethal back but at least the
24171s	minions are much harder to kill now
24173s	without the snap phrase it only has to
24175s	die at some point if you survive
24177s	yourself
24180s	oh
24182s	it's looking increasingly difficult
24185s	oh it's okay there's ancient of Law and
24187s	Shadow step now
24191s	oh actually yeah sorry I didn't even see
24193s	the uh
24195s	some Fury that's just better
24202s	and this is a big advantage of that sun
24204s	Fury is not only does it heal you for
24206s	six but it does also heal up your
24208s	minions so they are able to be
24211s	persistent threats uh pocket train
24213s	having used both locations on that last
24215s	turn will not have another freeze for
24218s	this eight eight although there is
24219s	plenty of damage to remove it if you so
24221s	chooses
24222s	34 life though I expect all the damages
24225s	going face I was going to say I actually
24227s	think like this is easily one of those
24229s	moments where you go well unless they
24233s	generate cards that don't actually exist
24235s	I'm just gonna throw it all face and how
24237s	can I possibly raise because I do think
24239s	it's a fair question at this point
24240s	there's a lot of heal of course for
24242s	tonsoku going back up to 30 but that's a
24245s	lot of resources the pocket train still
24247s	sitting with these uh touches in hand as
24250s	well
24251s	just a million
24256s	I don't I think you don't play aguin yet
24259s	you just use the infused ones as they
24261s	get re-infused by these skeletons right
24265s	It's Tricky as well because
24268s	I think what pocket might be doing is
24270s	looking at what's left in the deck and
24273s	seeing How likely it is do you know like
24275s	draw a small minion right because all
24276s	the other minions in the deck are
24277s	relatively small so suddenly if you do
24279s	play aguin and you're very likely to
24282s	draw like a one or two drop and that
24285s	could be quite good as well so I'm sure
24286s	he's just looking at all the outs here
24288s	but I think at base level you are
24290s	completely right play all the Frozen
24292s	touches
24293s	honestly I could even go face with all
24296s	the skeletons because tonsoku can't just
24298s	leave them alive right yes everything
24301s	face and say they'll Infuse themselves
24303s	whatever and if they don't it's still
24305s	what nine damage next turn anyway
24309s	and there's all the arc I didn't even
24311s	see there was three arcade bolts as well
24314s	just play it all out yeah I love this
24317s	yeah
24317s	no face
24320s	Now isn't this an honorable if we can't
24322s	have hunter in this tournament at least
24323s	we've got something like this you know
24325s	the honorable deck
24329s	there's 17 damage for tonsoku which is
24332s	only halfway there
24336s	are there any
24338s	Colossus that couldn't do anything not
24341s	realistically right not versus three
24343s	touch
24348s	I don't think so I mean I can't remember
24351s	the name of but
24354s	you know I'm gonna do too much
24360s	you know I'd completely forgotten they
24361s	made this a seven seven
24365s	stats yeah
24368s	those bucks coming into play here Rogue
24374s	okay well it's some some amount
24377s	it's gonna be hilarious if both players
24379s	say yeah let's just keep this simple no
24382s	Trading
24384s	let's just punch each other in the face
24386s	to one person's stuff
24389s	it makes sense to me that tansoku says
24392s	well you know what they have to infuse
24394s	so if pocket train wants to infuse those
24397s	frozen touches you can do the trading
24398s	I'm gonna take my damage while I can get
24400s	it
24401s	it's just hilarious that by not trading
24403s	yes you don't Infuse them but the
24406s	skeletons get to attack face which is
24408s	kind of like infusing them you know so
24411s	it's just it's just hilarious that both
24413s	players are just slapping each other in
24415s	the face till it's over now this is
24418s	Hearthstone this is what I signed up for
24419s	all those years ago it's gonna be I
24422s	think yep
24429s	wow so much damage pocket train takes an
24432s	early lead and we were talking about the
24435s	main differences between both players
24436s	lineups is pocket train has the Mage
24439s	tonsoku has the priest but already
24441s	pocket trains just got the Mage over the
24443s	line
24444s	um in I don't say it was super easy
24447s	because the Deep Freeze was the um oh
24449s	sorry the snap freeze was probably the
24451s	card that really broke the back of that
24454s	game but that's still setting up with
24456s	those frozen touches very very nice play
24458s	and one of the reasons why uh I have
24460s	that I hoped for pocket train going
24462s	forward and if you can make it through
24464s	to tomorrow because I think this mayor
24465s	deck is actually quite good but there's
24467s	plenty of games left of this series so
24470s	far and tonsoku just as much as I could
24472s	train one with the Mage tonsogu could
24474s	just keep recent win with that and then
24475s	we've got a lot of funky mirrors going
24477s	on yep just the the straight up lineup
24480s	for lineup mirror at that point
24482s	I believe there are a couple of card
24484s	differences so we will see how those
24486s	play out such as this miracle robe with
24488s	the sun Fury
24489s	[Music]
24491s	yeah even even here was not enough
24493s	healing to overcome
24495s	all the burn available to me that's it
24497s	when you realize that there was the
24499s	ancient of law I think some Fury was
24501s	played twice yeah there was the five
24503s	armor as well and pocket trade
24507s	still just was like the air you're still
24509s	dead it doesn't matter how much she
24510s	healed for you're going to die so yeah
24512s	so much damage available for this Mage
24514s	like I said tonsoku and still looking
24517s	fine it's only one zero but uh tonsoko I
24520s	think in terms of looks with a camera as
24521s	well is looking a little bit fatigued so
24523s	hopefully
24524s	slap in the face that he did to himself
24526s	was gonna wake him up maybe you just
24528s	need to go and get a fresh drink quick
24529s	and just you know get ready because
24531s	there's nothing worse than trying to
24532s	focus when you're tired or at least for
24534s	me I do not do well
24536s	it was quite a few Frozen touches there
24539s	so maybe that just sort of shocked him
24540s	away yeah true instead of cold water
24543s	which is a frozen touch attack there you
24545s	go that'll wake you up we are gonna jump
24547s	very quickly
24549s	into a mirror matched DK mirror and what
24553s	uh outside the posic are there any sort
24555s	of like differences in in these decks
24557s	[Music]
24559s	uh you know so there's posic and then
24561s	some players have also gone for that
24564s	hardcore cultist I believe pretty much
24567s	everyone has the Rowdy fan in yeah or at
24572s	least these two players have two of them
24573s	yeah that's for sure
24576s	looks like
24578s	yeah it looks like a pocket has a
24581s	harbinger of winter and
24585s	tonsoku does have Circle taste one
24588s	cultist and one this is quite unique I
24591s	believe the only player with this in the
24593s	Frost death knight
24594s	perhaps a nod to the mirror smothering
24596s	Stars
24598s	the big deal actually like even though
24600s	you know four Mana is a lot for the
24602s	effect but when so many games revolve
24605s	around that back and forth between
24606s	frostworms Fury the starfish is just
24609s	we'll have to make Pockets sit and think
24611s	about it right because
24613s	if if he purines
24615s	and it's like well I get lethal if the
24618s	starfish comes out then that's a huge
24619s	problem I have to push him off to play
24621s	yeah it's something that allows you to
24623s	sort of break serve in the mirror which
24625s	could come in clutch but you do still
24628s	have to sort of win out up to that point
24630s	and have a board that's worth freezing
24633s	and as it stands konsoku is not really
24636s	the one making a board also no it does
24639s	have the answers and you know bone
24640s	Breakers are great early early card to
24643s	get but I do think just having the egg
24645s	especially it's such a pain isn't it
24648s	because you know you have to kill the
24649s	egg then that spits out something bigger
24651s	then you have to kill that tonsoku
24653s	definitely on the back foot here
24658s	turn
24664s	you know you consider saving it
24665s	sometimes against things like the
24667s	outcast Demon Hunter or maybe the priest
24669s	but I think that's a perfectly good turn
24671s	in this matchup what do you think about
24673s	this there's the frost strike to just
24675s	play the frost strike and discover the
24677s	card or does the value play the pocket
24679s	trains now gone for with the gold charge
24681s	um do you like the ghoul instead
24684s	you know I think having enough corpses
24687s	can be relevant at a certain point you
24689s	know whether it's for might of menethil
24691s	or the marrow manipulators so I don't
24695s	mind just generating an extra corpse and
24697s	occasionally no you do need Frost strike
24699s	to kill something like an arms dealer or
24702s	just stuff that you're not able to deal
24704s	with using your hero power something a
24705s	bit more relevant than just epic right
24708s	an actual danger cars yeah like this
24710s	yeah
24711s	yeah
24712s	it'd be nice and now there's those two
24714s	might have menethilins had their pocket
24716s	and those even though I think a lot of
24718s	people discuss the freeze it's still
24721s	just getting smacked in the face as well
24722s	right like it's still a very relevant
24724s	amount of damage
24726s	oh yeah four two weapons historically
24728s	have been very powerful usually on the
24731s	side of Rogue I remember when wagglepick
24734s	was a card for rogue that was a 4-2
24738s	weapon that bounced one of your own
24740s	minions and then that minion was life
24742s	drinker so it was just you know piles of
24745s	damage where you would get eight out of
24747s	the weapon and then you know an
24748s	additional three from bouncing a minion
24751s	that also dealt damage yeah it's one of
24753s	those things that like now and again
24754s	when you're not thinking about it takes
24756s	you by surprise where oh they've
24757s	equipped a four two on four you know
24759s	whatever you blink it's like wow they
24761s	just hit me for nearly a third of my
24763s	health with that one card
24771s	has been very aggressive and I think
24773s	this is what we're gonna see I'm pretty
24775s	interesting that both players have like
24777s	a heavy minion opening
24779s	it's less about board now and more he's
24782s	actually just pushing as much damage as
24784s	possible
24786s	now this is interesting pocket train
24788s	equipping
24790s	that weapon
24791s	oh wait sorry I thought he was on six
24793s	Mana it's never mind I was saying
24795s	instead of the frigidara frigidara is
24796s	coming down next turn
24799s	well toes interest as well the the no
24802s	swing right when he has a second
24805s	is a little bewildering and I'm not sure
24808s	what that's a nod to I suppose it's just
24809s	like you've got the time now you know
24813s	with frostworms Fury the following turn
24816s	that you're not gonna be able to equip
24818s	the other one
24820s	both players playing like lightning as
24822s	well and I know like actually this is a
24825s	deck that they'll both be very
24826s	comfortable with because again it's got
24828s	some weird off meta pick right it's one
24830s	of if not the most popular deck of the
24833s	game right now but they're still going
24835s	at it it's crazy
24837s	syndragosa is a very interesting pickup
24841s	particularly with frostworms Fury I
24844s	doubt this hardly ever happens but if
24846s	you run it out and your opponent
24847s	frostworms Fury's face
24849s	to freeze the minions your own
24851s	frostworms Fury becomes a full board
24853s	clear
24858s	I hadn't really thought about that
24863s	just says whenever you freeze right yeah
24867s	yeah yeah yeah true that's kind of crazy
24871s	foreign
24877s	not sure that'll actually come into play
24879s	just because there is the
24881s	frostworms Fury here followed by another
24884s	uh might have metaphor
24887s	it's really tough right because although
24889s	there is
24890s	pocket might be sat thinking about well
24893s	what if tonsoku has the other one
24896s	so that just gets frozen again right
24900s	now
24904s	but is that even better into an opposing
24908s	Frost room's Fury
24912s	like now you've just not pushed five
24913s	damage that you could have
24915s	I guess I guess with the the other
24917s	weapon
24921s	oh
24927s	again another matchup from these two
24929s	players
24931s	maintain each other it's great
24936s	and I think you don't go for the fury
24938s	because a nogling has to potentially
24941s	save you here
24945s	none of those are healing
24951s	the free is good is actually relevant
24953s	though
24954s	the freeze face right
24957s	so you freeze forward and face
24961s	yeah in case the weapon
24968s	so there's five from Rowdy fan hero
24971s	power
24975s	oh is it one off just one off with Rowdy
24979s	fan
24980s	and the skeleton
24983s	[Music]
24985s	so they this will have to be school
24987s	teacher right
24988s	yeah I don't know what you find
24990s	something
24992s	anybody I saw blood type then it was
24995s	like oh no never mind wrong card and
24997s	that's gonna be it okay evens up the
24999s	series
25001s	two yeah absolutely brutal games to
25004s	start this series you can see both
25006s	players are like oh okay yeah because
25009s	this is absolutely Savage there's no you
25012s	know long back and forth games or
25014s	anything like that it's just right if
25017s	you slip once you're probably dead right
25020s	because we've seen both times now the
25022s	player who's got like like half a step
25024s	ahead just stays that way because again
25027s	both players very good as long as the
25028s	drawers aren't going to completely crush
25030s	them they just uh cash in on that sort
25032s	of extra Advantage they have and it's
25034s	really hard to claw back because the
25036s	Decks that are doing that we're seeing
25038s	aren't really built to recover they're
25040s	built to win faster than their opponent
25043s	and when their mirrors as well it gets
25044s	even spicy now
25046s	yeah a lot of people like to talk about
25048s	all the decisions that take place in
25050s	longer control matchups Etc but aggro
25053s	you still have a ton of decisions they
25055s	are just compressed within those first
25058s	few turns at least with these aggressive
25059s	decks you know there's a lot of options
25061s	in terms of discoveries the frosty K in
25064s	terms of you know the Demon Hunter stuff
25067s	you get off of wretched Exile right all
25070s	kinds of generation there so a lot of
25072s	these decks like have certain options
25074s	priest even has the how you utilize
25077s	cards that you get from your opponent so
25081s	it can just be this wicked fast
25084s	decisions now they are also playing fast
25086s	which they don't have to be doing why no
25089s	but they love it if this if there's a
25091s	couple of players here that we're gonna
25092s	play fast I would have easily guessed
25094s	these two at least in there these two
25096s	couple of others as well but um but yeah
25099s	I think like the decision points in the
25101s	aggro matchups are kind of interesting
25103s	because it's even
25105s	with the weapons included like do I
25107s	trade a minion here instead of my face
25110s	because generally speaking base rules of
25112s	hearthstone it's generally better to use
25114s	your face to trade but in a matchup
25116s	there's so much burst damage either way
25118s	from hand actually just using the
25121s	minions even though the means are more
25122s	likely to die afterwards it is better
25124s	because well your your health is the
25127s	most important thing in them eating that
25129s	kind of matchup so let's get a little
25130s	bit spicy but it does mean that market
25132s	train can just go for the uh the death
25134s	knight again whereas tonsoku now is
25137s	gonna have his priest and the Rogue one
25140s	small left to go in with I believe let's
25142s	go to go into the next game so I think
25144s	this is just going to continue to be
25146s	fast and furious
25149s	and here we'll get to sort of test that
25151s	theory of whether priests can perhaps
25153s	get under the frost DK wouldn't be
25156s	surprised though if we see Frost DK pick
25159s	up another win it does seem like the
25160s	Tyrant deck of this event
25164s	I'm surprised to see the frost strike go
25167s	back as well
25171s	it's one of those weird things where
25175s	deciding if you're the aggressor or not
25179s	in an aggro match right right you know
25182s	what I mean because someone will end up
25184s	being the aggressor and someone will
25185s	defend but deciding that in Mulligan is
25188s	kind of tricky and I think a lot of
25190s	players actually decided as a universal
25193s	thing oh yeah in Frost DK versus priest
25195s	the DK plays removal I I think a lot of
25199s	players will probably argue about that
25200s	but it's opening hand although tonsoku's
25204s	got off to an okay start it needs to
25206s	continue off the back okay this is fine
25208s	this is fine
25209s	Cathedral into something is worthwhile
25212s	here but I'll just look at those two
25213s	grave digging and was like oh that's
25215s	okay oh no
25217s	well you know could always have just
25219s	traded off the banshee and and started
25222s	the card draw but I think usually
25224s	location you want to get it down as
25226s	early as possible so you can utilize it
25228s	to its fullest extent no an opt for this
25231s	instead and get amalgam down
25235s	okay interesting there is two horns
25239s	though for pocket train and that is a
25242s	swing turn in a box right there isn't it
25244s	if you can just refresh for Mana
25247s	yeah definitely something in the frosty
25250s	case backpacket is being able to just
25252s	manage it like that
25254s	could still be challenging in the face
25256s	of this start the tonsoku's got but
25259s	always have to be accounting for
25261s	discovers off of nirby and vizier off a
25264s	school teacher that can give you options
25266s	outside of your sort of Rune selections
25276s	together
25279s	we do what the living cannot has no big
25283s	surprise there gonna start just trying
25284s	to use this to hack down some of these
25286s	minions
25288s	the only weird thing here is like with
25290s	not getting the cathedral down like I I
25292s	respect the play from tansoku but now
25294s	when does the cathedral come down
25297s	because I do think you want it on board
25300s	yeah now it's just a little bit awkward
25302s	yeah there is one drop to fill out the
25304s	curve of course it's just this feels
25306s	weaker doesn't it
25308s	because right now I'm just looking at
25310s	Necromancer and be like well that's just
25311s	a 5'4 that deals five go yep
25322s	oh maybe tonsoku goes wide here now
25325s	because you can fill out the Curve with
25327s	the minions
25329s	it is typically better against Frost DK
25332s	to go wide earlier rather than later
25343s	I'm wondering if you ever pick up
25345s	Invincible but probably you want to win
25347s	before that matters it does give the
25348s	minion taunt in addition to buffing
25352s	thank you
25353s	yeah I think if you're setting up that
25355s	as you plan you probably already
25356s	accepted
25358s	probably even even though I like the
25360s	card I just think it's Shadow priest
25361s	especially with this
25363s	I think that was a howling blast yep
25367s	always a solid pickup
25370s	especially off school teacher where you
25372s	basically get two men a discount yeah oh
25375s	look at the damage this is what I was
25378s	talking about right like look at this
25379s	Tempo swing there's another horn if he
25382s	wants it yeah there you go absolutely
25384s	it's like a druid turn it was the
25388s	perfect discover but also just the
25390s	patience setting that up with the
25392s	Cesarean in play and then being able to
25395s	get this complete board swing and uh
25397s	we'll swing it right back over with the
25399s	shadow word on death
25401s	at least it's flat though for pocket
25403s	train right like yes right there was
25405s	declare which sucks obviously if you
25406s	pocket train but there wasn't a clear
25408s	plus other stuff right pretty Shadow
25410s	priest has to pay a significant amount
25413s	of matter to get that done and now do it
25415s	again
25417s	[Music]
25419s	this is where things are going to start
25420s	to slow down for tonsoku here because
25421s	suddenly this clear isn't as cool
25424s	anymore and then we can see pocket train
25426s	like has the DK uh top end right of um
25431s	uh the overseer plus uh frostwins Fury
25436s	yeah and this is where you know Mage
25438s	potentially has that sort of
25441s	Edge over the shadow priest is made from
25444s	this position but still potentially you
25447s	know deathborn be charging up Frozen
25449s	touches have that damage from hand not
25451s	be worried about having to make a board
25453s	into frostworms Fury but tansoku has not
25456s	quite gotten in enough damage over those
25459s	first few turns to be able to get over
25461s	the Finish Line with burn
25463s	none of those say Undead
25468s	the weapons fault give me back to the
25471s	holy priests
25472s	[Laughter]
25475s	we're back to the boy bands this is not
25477s	what we signed up for oh no yeah that
25481s	does feel pretty tough when all you're
25483s	looking for is is to have that burn and
25486s	and that's the thing as well right you
25487s	can see tonsoku in playing The
25489s	Necromancer said I have to burn I have
25492s	lost the board I have to burn so you go
25494s	okay this will deal five then what do I
25497s	need to draw oh wait it didn't deal five
25499s	never mind
25500s	and I can't stop thinking about the fact
25502s	this location just never had the chance
25505s	to be played and
25507s	It's tricky because the location's very
25510s	strong for card draw in this deck
25512s	because you know you're playing an aggro
25513s	Deck card draw very strong of course but
25517s	I do wonder what the Buffs would have
25519s	done
25520s	because I think pocket trains removal
25522s	has been very clean this game and
25525s	obviously the cathedral would alter
25527s	those numbers right so yeah this is
25530s	definitely one of those games I'd love
25531s	to like go back in time and live in the
25534s	alternate universe where the cathedral
25536s	was played
25539s	yeah just for the Buffs for the card
25541s	draw for a multitude of reasons you know
25543s	maybe it draws you enough cards that
25546s	you're able to to find that burn so once
25548s	your board is cleared you can actually
25550s	get over the finish line but now we're
25552s	in the zone where pocket train can just
25554s	freeze all day doesn't have to ever
25556s	actually kill any of tonsoka's minions
25558s	and so you can't even activate grave
25561s	digging or another one of those board
25563s	players
25570s	yeah
25572s	and this is real flight yeah it pushes
25574s	some damage but when you have to start
25576s	playing this type of game is the priest
25578s	you are not having a good time
25588s	in Pocket can't believe it like how uh
25590s	nothing that turn was
25594s	that certainly right
25598s	oh no not quite enough
25599s	overestimating the damage okay the
25601s	Bandit was kind of lethal there you go
25603s	pocket train taking game number three
25606s	and again just one of those scenarios
25608s	where the the frost DK just doing what
25611s	it does right it's the reason it's one
25613s	of the most popular decks and the reason
25614s	why it's a generally pretty feared as uh
25617s	tonsoku got pushed off
25622s	yep I think that was pretty expected
25625s	with the frost DK you know we sort of
25627s	think okay they're gonna take a win on
25628s	that reach player uh so we'll just be
25631s	seeing if that priest can uh get over
25633s	the Finish Line against one of the other
25635s	decks Rogue can sometimes struggle if uh
25638s	you do build a sticky board early enough
25641s	I think hansoku will be looking again
25643s	for that Banshee foul egg early game
25645s	right I think it's one of those scary
25647s	things though right because although
25649s	that's that's definitely true if pocket
25652s	train it was the Rogue things right and
25655s	just makes one big thin Stone how does
25657s	priest actually kill it they just have
25659s	to race and then suddenly they're racing
25661s	like a 9A attack minion and then the
25665s	Rogue has the tricks right the
25666s	concoctions bone spikes and so on to
25668s	like clean up all the priests minions so
25670s	it's pretty scary I think since don't
25673s	graveyard and the ability to pull that
25674s	off it's going to be even more vital in
25677s	this uh in that matchup than than
25680s	generally for rogue even though of
25681s	course it's the backbone of the deck
25682s	anyway but I am now scared for tonsoku I
25686s	am a tonsoku finder for getting this
25688s	over the line or getting you know both
25690s	decks over the line against this Rogue I
25692s	think from pocket train is going to be a
25694s	big ask
25697s	and particularly against bucket train on
25700s	Rogue which I think is quite a comfort
25701s	deck for him uh hands looking pretty
25704s	good potion belt absolutely a card you
25707s	want in the opener
25709s	I think I'm pretty much always looking
25710s	for Sprint but if you do need defensive
25712s	options you can always go for those as
25714s	well
25718s	not a bad opening
25724s	and double play the ones with the reborn
25727s	right yeah yeah it's just better value
25731s	you know really awkward the reborn
25736s	is like no no no no no no no no no
25739s	no
25741s	stop stop
25747s	uh there it is the spread knows he needs
25750s	the additional resources
25752s	and I I think we'll be ripping that uh
25755s	draw for immediately
25758s	and already I feel like this is going to
25760s	be such a close matchup because since
25762s	don't graveyard's there the draw the
25765s	prep the everything is there but
25769s	this is about as aggressive as you can
25771s	get for tonsoku right like oh there's
25774s	none
25776s	[Music]
25779s	siding between egg and ascendant I
25781s	suppose
25784s	yeah I think I kind of like ascended
25787s	because there's Cathedral ascendant
25789s	right I think you know he might be
25791s	thinking well the egg you can weave in a
25793s	little bit better
25795s	I guess I mean there's a world where
25797s	it's actually just like here of our next
25798s	turn right and it's just like right yes
25800s	yeah if you're just trying to weave in
25802s	that hero power
25808s	it's gonna come down to uh what's comes
25811s	off the top here I think both of these
25814s	oh wait one scribbling sonographer
25816s	Shadow stepped
25818s	Shadow step ask to lure a bunch but
25820s	we're not on five Mana so it does no
25821s	damage double shadow
25827s	triple with the shadow
25830s	s
25833s	the shadow of the Shadow step
25836s	[Music]
25837s	I think you probably killed everything
25839s	but the egg right
25842s	uh I would say yeah the Kiln the eggs
25844s	only gonna cause you more trouble right
25845s	it's gonna give a bigger headache than
25847s	it's worth
25850s	this is a massive ghost what why is this
25854s	still the same turn I'm sure there's
25856s	some rules questions have to be asked
25858s	I'm joking but wow 12 12 and like I said
25864s	yes tonsoku got a good start but
25868s	priests can't deal with a 12 12. the
25871s	cards don't exist in the deck right
25873s	unless they generate them from their
25875s	opponent somehow so now
25878s	there's what two turns
25881s	and you know there's a colossal or
25883s	something coming down yeah
25886s	that is great okay
25891s	but I don't think it's fast enough four
25894s	I mean it's lethal next turn right
25898s	if it hits
25900s	it's nine and then here that's a taunt
25904s	yeah the taunt is
25906s	insane
25908s	because otherwise if if the Necromancer
25911s	hits five and the Egg got to go face
25914s	right
25916s	well we know there's a foul leg on the
25918s	bottom
25923s	taunts huge
25926s	it's so huge because
25930s	that four damage was needed so much I
25933s	think tonsoku knows
25936s	the dream was alive for a very short
25939s	period of time there
25941s	even be in the race of the 12 12 but
25944s	fourth the taunt
25953s	interesting okay
25956s	I wasn't sure if pocket train was going
25958s	to go for uh you know azshara trade onto
25960s	the egg and then use the
25962s	scribbling sonographer to take care of
25964s	the three three but
25966s	yeah taunt's good enough I think he's
25967s	just saying yeah you can't get through
25969s	the taunt who cares
25972s	push everything face and even
25976s	kind of vitally in another way you can't
25978s	kill off your minions right so
25983s	[Music]
25992s	easy match and honestly I feel like it's
25994s	one I need to just re-watch because it
25996s	was so fast it was so brutal uh from
25999s	both players and you can see that how
26002s	like these aggro lineups that have
26004s	pretty much dominated the whole
26006s	tournament
26006s	[Music]
26009s	stuff but in general it's Agro agar Agro
26012s	and you see how like cut through it is
26014s	and how close we've had matches or games
26016s	where players have completely overran
26018s	their opponent but then we've had games
26020s	where it's like
26021s	well if I draw this card I win if I
26024s	don't they're probably gonna return fire
26025s	the next the next turn and game over so
26028s	some really raises Edge but uh what a
26030s	series it's great yeah I mean you know
26032s	you blinked in you missed it it was just
26034s	fast decks fast game play uh you know
26037s	non-stop action uh as you say I'm gonna
26041s	have to go back and watch it and do more
26044s	analysis because there is so much going
26046s	on there and decisions should be made
26048s	but uh yeah that's gonna take us to our
26051s	final uh decider elimination match
26054s	whatever you want to call it of the day
26055s	and uh I believe you're going to be
26057s	having a subtle and DJ for that one
26061s	I think so gonna be two of the three
26064s	chuckleheads that aren't us too uh so
26067s	that's who's gonna be there for that one
26068s	but yeah that is going to be that one um
26069s	we've got a farewell to tonsoku of
26073s	course so it was a great seeing playing
26074s	I have no doubt he'll be back uh pocket
26076s	train is gonna move on but as you said
26078s	that means there's only one more match
26080s	left for today so make sure to stay
26082s	tuned we're gonna go to a quick break
26083s	while we set that one up we'll be right
26084s	back
26089s	[Music]
26098s	foreign
26125s	[Music]
26130s	[Applause]
26131s	[Music]
26138s	[Music]
26147s	foreign
26170s	foreign
26184s	[Music]
26196s	[Music]
26202s	foreign
26211s	[Music]
26222s	[Music]
26239s	thank you
26243s	[Music]
26249s	foreign
26265s	[Music]
26270s	[Music]
26294s	thank you
26295s	[Music]
26317s	[Music]
26323s	foreign
26328s	[Music]
26353s	[Music]
26375s	[Music]
26393s	foreign
26402s	[Music]
26408s	[Music]
26413s	[Music]
26419s	welcome back everybody seven have been
26422s	decided and there is one more still to
26424s	go and with me to do that last cast of
26427s	the day is subtle I don't get to cast
26430s	with very much so I'm kind of scared
26431s	because he hangs out and shouts at me
26432s	all day every day anyway subtle what do
26435s	you make of it all so far
26437s	I mean it's just a strict Improvement
26438s	right now I now I get to do it live and
26441s	In Living Color and things have just
26443s	improved enormously yeah to be fair
26445s	Lorinda we've gone through three
26447s	different Talent rotations today and
26449s	Lorinda has complained twice that he
26451s	wasn't casting with me and now in this
26452s	version we are now casting together and
26455s	Lorinda then complained that they're
26457s	casting with me so I'm not really sure
26459s	how I win in this situation
26461s	okay that's fair uh yeah it's been a
26464s	great day um really happy to see pocket
26466s	train going through just now I will
26468s	always wear my biases on my sleeve I
26471s	like hockey train a lot I think he's a
26472s	phenomenal player uh so from all regards
26475s	I am very very pleased to see a good old
26477s	Pippin progressing through the group
26479s	there alongside Boulder Group C is now
26481s	wrapped up group A and B were wrapped up
26483s	before that as well which leaves us with
26485s	only one more group and I think even You
26488s	larinda by process of elimination can uh
26490s	can figure out which one that is yeah
26492s	that is group
26493s	all coming up right now there we go look
26496s	at it and it's hemlock already coming
26499s	through and Jana in a rematch with uh
26502s	miss me smile I don't know what name
26503s	we're going to go with me smile but I'm
26504s	going for me smile which he lost earlier
26507s	today uh for a chance for yala to move
26510s	on into another top eight something he
26512s	does relentlessly in the 16 player
26515s	tournaments yeah I think Relentless is a
26518s	very good word for it I think in terms
26520s	of prestige that might have been the
26523s	biggest upset that we saw in the opening
26524s	round games a lot of the players who you
26527s	would have expected to advance through
26528s	the opening games did so but y'all are
26530s	picking up some uh lost to someone with
26533s	at least less of a competitive history
26536s	uh would have been a shock to most
26538s	people but I think I've made this point
26539s	several times at least once while I've
26542s	been on air each time but this standard
26545s	is incredible even if there's a player
26547s	in this tournament that you have not
26549s	heard of over a hundreds of game sample
26553s	size they have finished above players
26555s	that you think are really good in the
26557s	ladder and that just means that they're
26559s	good Hearthstone players that's kind of
26560s	hard to argue with when you have the
26563s	sample size involved that we do now
26564s	there are other issues involved in
26567s	playing the level of sample that we are
26568s	playing with this tournament system but
26570s	in terms of a comparison to just you
26572s	know straight up a single a double
26574s	elimination qualifier that seeds you
26576s	into this tournament this is monstrously
26579s	more consistent in terms of which
26581s	caliber a players actually make it to
26583s	the top yeah and we've seen that as we
26585s	have a quick scan through the deck lists
26587s	um we have seen that over the last few
26589s	months like the same players the top
26591s	five every month now they're trying to
26594s	yep it's it's ridiculous like it's eight
26597s	points for coming first and seven points
26599s	for second through to fifth you can
26600s	count your best server so you get
26602s	probably two goes at it for most of
26603s	these players most of them don't play
26604s	three servers and there's people on you
26607s	know 23 points well done pocket 21
26610s	points there's a group of people like
26613s	what that's like nearly maximum how are
26616s	you doing this isn't it's ridiculous and
26619s	yeah yeah it's it's crazy and this has
26621s	always been a thing right where
26626s	um things happen and like for example
26628s	the the three-star Masters system that
26630s	we had before right where it came out
26631s	it's like well no one's going to be
26633s	consistent enough to actually hit that
26635s	number of points that's impossible and
26636s	then Hunter Ace does it with like months
26638s	to spare and then Saiyan does it as well
26641s	even though everyone that that was
26642s	pitched to said no that can't be done
26644s	people generally underestimate how
26647s	consistent the very best Hearthstone
26648s	players are as a general rule like yes
26651s	this is a card game yes there are random
26654s	elements yes there is variants yes you
26656s	crave sample size to try and iron that
26658s	variance out but the very best players
26660s	rise to the top over and over again and
26662s	that has always been the case what I
26664s	will say just as a a footnote to what
26667s	we've both just said is over and over
26670s	again whether it's Muzzy whether it's
26672s	frozen whether it's pocket train when he
26675s	started we have seen ladder players take
26677s	a little bit of time to adjust the
26678s	tournaments there is a difference
26680s	between jamming the same deck 400 times
26682s	in a month on ladder and being versatile
26685s	enough to do that with four different
26687s	decks and make the lineup coherent but
26691s	every time we've said that about a
26692s	player they have come through and
26694s	eventually adjusted to tournament
26696s	formats so that's just the one footnote
26698s	so if somebody's here for the first time
26699s	and they have done it through a ladder
26700s	system I do think it is still okay to
26703s	judge them as possibly just slightly
26706s	disadvantaged by them
26707s	yeah as we are now just uh skimming
26710s	through yala's deck lists uh two Druids
26713s	in this series which is a little bit
26715s	unusual I think a lot of players feared
26717s	bringing Druid because Druid felt like
26719s	the most easily targetable deck we're
26722s	seeing a lot of people for example with
26723s	Outcast Demon Hunter Shadow priest
26725s	Paladin that kind of lineup quad
26727s	board-based aggro to Target Druid in
26729s	general so a lot of people have chosen
26731s	not to go for the Druid for that reason
26732s	uh both of these players have chosen to
26735s	go with Adrian uh yala sticking with the
26739s	Demon Hunter and is a Rowdy fan of Relic
26742s	Demon Hunter as opposed to Outcast which
26744s	I know both you and I have played a good
26746s	amount of both you and I expected to see
26749s	an equally large amount of that deck in
26751s	this tournament and have both been a
26753s	little surprised by how many people uh
26755s	hopped the fence over into Outcast Demon
26757s	Hunter instead but yala is going with
26759s	the Demon Hunter and of course on the
26761s	other side me smile not a Demon Hunter
26763s	in sight
26765s	and we're being told that the bands are
26768s	the double Rogues which I'm I'm on team
26771s	Raven here I'm afraid which is always a
26773s	bad sign especially when I'm casting
26775s	with subtle why this Frosty case
26777s	surviving the band phase every time I do
26779s	the chart every time I do the maths the
26780s	numbers it just says Frosty K get it out
26783s	of there
26784s	um but people are choosing time and time
26786s	again to leave it up yeah I'm not sure
26788s	that I would have seen it be banned in
26790s	every series in every scenario I would
26792s	also have expected to see a band more
26794s	often certainly I was talking about it
26796s	in Casey series before I didn't
26798s	understand the bands in that series uh
26799s	Frost EK looked like a better band to me
26801s	than Outcast Demon Hunter
26803s	um from Casey's side so yeah double
26805s	respect going down for the Rogue in this
26807s	position uh I guess just two players
26810s	with Druid in their lineup really have
26812s	that to keep in mind as well so that
26814s	does change things quite significantly
26816s	but regardless we are now going to get
26818s	into action we are seeing Druid coming
26820s	out from me smile not a deck that I have
26822s	yet had the opportunity to cast and it's
26824s	going to be the uh the frosty cake
26825s	coming out yeah
26827s	yeah and just the thing I always do this
26828s	in every match that I ever cast the one
26831s	match up to watch out for is the Paladin
26834s	versus the Druid if that happens
26837s	um that is that is the Paladin's Escape
26838s	Route and it's a massive Escape Route it
26841s	keeps the Druid under like in problems
26844s	and the Paladin gets out of there
26846s	um but yeah so me smile will be looking
26847s	to cue the palette into the Druid at
26849s	some point
26853s	yeah otherwise it does get a bit sticky
26855s	doesn't it like pounding it's a miracle
26857s	Rogue if that was up which of course it
26859s	isn't Paladin into the uh pounding into
26862s	the Relic Demon Hunter I think he's a
26864s	good matchup for The Relic Demon Hunter
26865s	in the hands of an experienced Relic
26866s	Demon Hunter player of course Paladin
26868s	into any ball any deck that's just gonna
26870s	freeze your board over and over again
26872s	it's gonna have a bad time in general so
26873s	yeah I think that is a good assessment
26875s	but I think the other thing you can take
26877s	away from that is why on Earth have you
26879s	brought Paladin to the tournament I just
26880s	can't understand it what is it here yeah
26883s	I mean if you're soft targeting Druid
26886s	and I think me smile is despite bringing
26888s	Druid himself but that's a 50 50 but so
26891s	it doesn't quite work but everything
26892s	else does beat Druid it does give you a
26895s	strategy of you know I I could beat the
26897s	best players in the world if they bring
26898s	a druid along because my decks beats
26900s	Druids
26902s	Miracle Rogue
26905s	and then obviously but then you have the
26907s	mirror and I think you know the people
26908s	who put Frost DK in their lineup will
26910s	probably say that it's favored but I
26912s	don't think it's monstrously favored
26914s	against Druid it's an argument I think
26916s	yeah yeah I think there is some debate
26919s	to be had there so still I don't even as
26921s	a soft target Druid strategy I don't
26924s	love the lineup That me smile has gone
26925s	with honestly but
26927s	enough of that we're on turn three we're
26929s	gonna start talking about the actual
26930s	game that is ahead of us oh yeah there's
26932s	a Hearthstone game in progress well
26934s	all right
26936s	I don't know I've had it hammered home
26938s	recently how important Tempo is in every
26940s	meta ever but particularly in the
26942s	current meta I think yeah
26944s	um and even if it's just small amounts
26946s	of tempo that Druids generate it still
26949s	slows everybody down so y'all is gonna
26951s	have to try and deal with that I decide
26952s	already do ought to put two damage into
26954s	the face the simplest decisions which
26956s	simpler than usual because it always
26957s	does two demons
26959s	yeah the question is just how would you
26962s	like to do two damage yeah
26965s	and the uh the early death row minions
26967s	the hero power buffing minions for the
26969s	Druid are very irritating because you
26972s	always have to make that decision do I
26974s	clear it do I leave it up uh you kind of
26976s	have to weigh that decisions like well
26977s	How likely is my opponent to want to
26979s	hero power on this turn right because if
26981s	they really don't want to hear a power
26983s	clearing the minions great I can gain
26985s	Tempo because even though the hero power
26987s	becomes more effective it's just not
26988s	going to be a thing that they want to do
26990s	on this turn if they do think they're
26992s	likely the hero power then quite often
26994s	leaving the minions up is less tempo for
26997s	them right because especially the one
26998s	two very rarely has any kind of
27000s	significant impact on your board
27004s	you've been talking a few times about
27006s	you know Frost DK and explaining that
27008s	it's tough which I do agree with by the
27010s	way and these are exactly the sort of
27011s	situations already as to well how do I
27014s	want to play my next three turns here
27015s	not necessarily how to play this one
27017s	turn but what's going on here doing a
27020s	waste a manner on a vizier no but do I
27022s	want to then horn a winter or do I do
27024s	this extra Mana Etc
27027s	there we go
27028s	there's some things to do
27033s	five Mana frostworms Theory
27037s	what do you do on six if you take it
27041s	play fridge
27044s	first worm is a plan yeah
27048s	which also creates a world where you
27050s	don't necessarily need that one Mana
27052s	this turn so yeah I think these were the
27053s	two options right I do think this one is
27055s	better because the card rake exists but
27057s	let's start with the start of this
27059s	before we go to the end of it the other
27061s	play was to take the five Mana Frost
27062s	ones Fury and then just Horn of winter
27064s	Rowdy fan this turn and just leave it
27066s	again it doesn't attack if you just
27068s	leave it on board and say this is hard
27069s	for a druid to clear anyway but because
27071s	the card rake exists that's probably
27073s	going to miss out on some damage in a
27075s	lot of positions so by doing it this way
27077s	this board is never getting cleared this
27080s	turn right so you guarantee in this
27082s	position that you can land some Rowdy
27083s	that Rowdy fan damage to face if you
27085s	want to
27087s	also wondering if you go the other way
27089s	when do you play your school teacher
27091s	that is a perfectly good functional
27093s	broken Hearthstone card yep that is true
27096s	as well
27097s	merits that say the school teacher gets
27100s	skipped this way as well though right
27103s	potentially he hackers this because yeah
27105s	you could play it here on turn five but
27107s	you could choose to go Rowdy fan instead
27108s	for just insane amounts of pressure and
27110s	then if you don't play school teacher on
27111s	five same thing right you're not playing
27113s	yeah same thing playing on seven
27117s	yeah I was thinking the old Rowdy fan
27119s	onto the hero power and turn a million
27121s	oh no no I'm gonna say oh no Yola just
27124s	has a million things to worry about
27126s	and School teaching now becomes more
27128s	sensible because it creates two corpses
27130s	not one and also because you didn't draw
27132s	a card to spend two mana on this turn
27134s	right alongside the Rowdy bear because
27136s	this this spends five
27138s	do you take place grain here
27140s	and just say I have marrow manipulator
27142s	and I'm going to use it
27144s	could also take us vexier and not play
27147s	it just to have an asphyxiate in your
27149s	hand
27151s	[Music]
27155s	does that ever actually do anything
27156s	great
27157s	[Music]
27158s	um say you get hit by mishmash Masha
27161s	counter swing like immune mishmash
27163s	yeah
27164s	but at that point you can just go face
27167s	freeze minions at that point anyways
27170s	and if going face freezing them doesn't
27172s	win you've probably lost EVS as fixate
27174s	one million for whatever because the
27176s	rest of the board's killing you somehow
27177s	as well yeah it does kill jailers and
27180s	stuff I guess
27182s	um
27183s	if things get really terrible you need
27184s	that one last swing
27187s	ah he's taken nagaling we'll be fine
27190s	yeah it's gonna Bloom the Rowdy fan
27191s	instead I like it
27200s	same deal you wait one term with the
27201s	bloom to get the Rowdy fan down and then
27204s	you are guaranteeing that it gets to
27205s	attack because this board isn't getting
27206s	cleared whatsoever
27208s	gets the school teacher played which
27210s	solves that problem we're asking when
27211s	does the school teacher get played you
27212s	just jam it there and use the uh the
27214s	Horn of winter to get the Rowdy fan out
27215s	and now six into seven is pretty clear
27218s	from this point
27219s	last chance to play um
27222s	flower child
27225s	[Music]
27226s	because you're dead any other time you
27228s	play if it's not now I think it might be
27229s	too late already
27232s	you can't win if you don't play it can
27234s	you
27237s	[Music]
27241s	it's 13 on board right now yeah
27245s	you do get to play after Laura alongside
27248s	it I suppose which takes off four yeah
27250s	it's enough of a window
27253s	kind of you hate it right but there's
27255s	nothing better I don't think
27259s	it's one of my favorite cards to set I
27260s	think in terms of advertising the new I
27262s	mentioned this earlier advertising the
27264s	new mechanic because the the payoff for
27267s	flower child is so great but it's so
27270s	awkward to get down sometimes unless you
27272s	play it on curve I don't love it I do
27274s	personally I wish they'd stop giving
27276s	Drew its way to guarantee draw their win
27278s	condition
27279s	every game you know they just it just
27282s	makes games samey from my perspective
27284s	like you play some ramp you play the Tua
27286s	cards you play your win condition that's
27288s	every Druid game and has been for like
27289s	five years at this point
27293s	excuse me
27294s	Mr mu ft
27298s	calls right
27301s	the hovering fridge
27303s	laughs
27305s	it's an emote in half the channels on
27308s	Twitch welcome to the 22nd century we
27311s	have hovering fridges now amazing they
27314s	just come up the stairs with your drinks
27316s	in them and you just open and they hover
27317s	back downstairs again right
27320s	can we get on that can we because we'll
27322s	make is one of those things
27326s	it's gonna be horn Frost strike I would
27328s	presume again just this horn not gonna
27330s	be useful from this point forward try
27333s	and transform me into damage might a
27335s	benefit will do
27341s	oh one of the things that's interesting
27342s	about this matchup is if you if you
27344s	still fail to kill them the turn that
27346s	they make their massive taunts yeah you
27349s	just don't get there because you're five
27351s	damage to phase just gets armored away
27353s	every single turn yep
27356s	yeah in the case of frost DK it becomes
27359s	a little bit more difficult because they
27360s	can't ever really win that board back uh
27364s	other decks like Relic Demon Hunter for
27366s	example can like clear up the six sixes
27369s	and seven sevens to just leave them with
27371s	three 24s on the board and take them out
27373s	over the course of a couple of turns
27374s	right yeah unless you're playing The
27376s	Forbidden Etc uh crazed Alchemist Tech
27378s	then you're gonna have the time to do
27381s	that but yeah against uh death knight
27383s	not really a huge ability to clear
27386s	things up
27390s	time waits for no one okay so this is
27393s	the the two turns also that decided
27395s	every time in this matchups will turn
27396s	seven eight where you just work out
27398s	who's one at the end of it
27401s	I guess that goes back to what sort of
27402s	says about it being a bit samey but
27403s	there you go
27412s	right 12.
27419s	[Music]
27423s	kind of have to don't you
27426s	what do you have just play the weapon at
27429s	some point here I don't know what the
27430s	rest of your turn is though the rest of
27432s	your turn is hobbid yeah you don't
27433s	really have anything else to spend man
27436s	or you can try and turn Frost strike
27438s	into a useful card
27441s	but normally one of the most arguments
27443s	to use might have menethil over
27444s	frostworms theory is that you can spend
27446s	mana on doing other things the other
27447s	argument which is still true is that you
27449s	you're front loading damage over the
27452s	course of a number of turns so it's
27454s	usually the best card to play first card
27456s	to play in the sequence because you then
27458s	have that equipped for the next couple
27459s	of turns and you can continue to go face
27461s	with it but this is really to spend the
27464s	Mana on here you might never do four
27467s	damage with this card again
27480s	can't turn
27482s	otherwise it's just a 6'4 or something
27483s	yeah they're quite small from this
27485s	corner
27490s	all right he's found a way to set up a
27492s	lethal
27493s	it's not one that necessarily he
27495s	believes but he's found a way yeah just
27497s	about everything that he did set up
27499s	lethal in some way uh he knows about the
27502s	Aston law in hand for armor for sure
27504s	yeah
27505s	uh knows he has second of the king to
27507s	play around as well
27509s	the good news is it is sometime before
27512s	any minions get to attack this game
27520s	oh
27521s	[Music]
27528s	three
27534s	[Music]
27538s	let's learn not to second guess myself
27541s	when y'all is thinking about turn 17.
27545s	foreign
27555s	again because it's the most damage over
27558s	X number of turns
27562s	at least you have the spectral and the
27564s	hero power this time to chip another
27566s	three in there if you you're not totally
27568s	wasting the rest yes
27570s	skeletal sign
27576s	this one is a little different though
27577s	because obviously you don't get to swing
27578s	with this weapon immediately having just
27580s	swung
27581s	huh
27583s	I could see Wheels well this comes down
27585s	to a 50 50 manipulator hitting either
27586s	the under king or the face or something
27588s	horrible like that
27591s	yeah very possible
27597s	again this sets up lethal but yala knows
27599s	it doesn't because the aster lore is the
27600s	card that he does know about in this
27602s	position
27604s	doesn't achieve anything though right in
27607s	the short term because you make a five
27608s	five game the five armor but that goes
27610s	away gets Frozen and then you've got a
27612s	five five to deal with and you're in the
27613s	same spot you were in before it does put
27615s	a 4 team damage card in your hand though
27617s	and you do have a hero power that's
27619s	dealing through your turn
27620s	very true that's a big deal
27623s	I'm not saying don't do it I'm just
27624s	saying it's not actually the the massive
27626s	swing that it it smells like
27630s	because it draws you another card as
27631s	well which is kind of where he wants to
27633s	be right now
27634s	[Music]
27645s	[Music]
27649s	Tony and say they don't have it you know
27651s	they have some of it
27652s	yeah they played fridge you know it's
27655s	there
27656s	yeah
27657s	oh yeah good point okay
27660s	make stuff whole component runs out of
27662s	freezers
27671s	[Music]
27676s	how close the lethal is this 14 not
27678s	close enough is the answer but does it
27679s	clear the five five the answer is yes
27681s	pretty much always
27683s	the answer is yes probably
27686s	yeah
27689s	foreign
27694s	[Music]
27699s	how many need to go phase 12 is the hero
27702s	power at four
27706s	um it was a three last turn and then he
27708s	played the two one I think so the two
27710s	ones still on the board it's either four
27712s	or two and it's not at two so it's four
27714s	[Music]
27720s	I'm pretty sure
27723s	I'm never very sure because that's how I
27725s	am
27726s	but yeah 12 out of 14 seems very
27729s	unlikely
27730s	there aren't many intervals where the
27732s	five five doesn't die and you don't have
27735s	lethal though
27737s	which kind of makes it seem like the
27739s	play
27742s	the problem is how much armor is here of
27745s	power going because again fridge has
27746s	been played so you kind of give your
27748s	opponent credit for everything once the
27749s	fridge has been played
27751s	so you're fairly confident you're taking
27753s	another five in the face has you been
27755s	gaining three I feel like he's been
27756s	gaining three but yeah three three's
27760s	nine he's dead to Pig he's dead to a lot
27764s	of things he's just dead to the board
27766s	with a with one Fury yeah okay
27773s	super dead
27777s	oh don't do that
27779s	the arrow scared me
27782s	we try and tell you this dude you know
27785s	when you play against people and they
27786s	like The Arrow briefly targets your
27788s	minions and then goes face and we try
27789s	and tell you that's not BM that just
27791s	happens in the gameplay maybe now you're
27794s	police
27796s	it just happened I'm gonna I'm gonna ask
27798s	Yara later okay
27802s	let's try to make it let's just talk
27806s	see it's like it's just what he'd say
27809s	actually just to wind me up and keep me
27810s	at it yeah one zero lead though for
27813s	Ayala once again uh lost this matchup at
27816s	the start of the day but takes a 1-0
27818s	lead here uh still has his own Druid
27820s	hanging around these Druids are both
27822s	going to be pivotal here and again that
27824s	wild card the Paladin where is that
27826s	going to end up so
27828s	still all to play for it's one of those
27829s	one zeros that's not particularly
27831s	surprising but I do agree with you that
27833s	the Druid Frosty K matchup is he's
27835s	pretty close well we saw it you invent a
27838s	million worlds where slightly different
27839s	drawers change the outcome of that one
27841s	so yeah it is a big win for y'all I
27845s	guess but we're still doing on the board
27846s	I'm still not yeah excited either way
27849s	yeah the zoc didn't come down as part of
27851s	the anubricant turn right and then from
27854s	that point the full 16 damage of men
27856s	four swings when face after that point
27858s	so you know you can subtract that 16
27861s	damage straight up if there's one 24
27863s	taunts in the way or whatever else at
27865s	that point so yes the Druid does kind of
27867s	need to hit the nut curve of you know
27869s	ramp into tutor in to hit the right
27871s	minions but as discussed at the start of
27874s	that that's kind of how Druid is built
27876s	and kind of always is is they have ramp
27878s	they have cards that tutor the cards
27880s	they need and then they have the cards
27881s	they need so it can happen very
27883s	consistently it is a hard deck to beat
27886s	with any level of consistency because of
27888s	how consistently drew it does the one
27890s	thing that it does do
27892s	but there are some Decks that do
27893s	absolutely hammer it and that Paladin
27895s	which is the point that you keep
27897s	hammering is an absolutely miserable
27899s	matchup for the drill Player thing put a
27902s	Divine shield on it Druid explodes that
27905s	is basically the theater program
27907s	yeah I mean rake is an incredible
27910s	removal card that Druid has been gifted
27911s	in
27912s	for some reason but um it's not
27915s	incredible it's divine Shields right I
27917s	must protect the wild
27920s	what's rake
27921s	[Music]
27922s	do you mean flame strike
27925s	yes I mean flame story okay good thanks
27927s	Casper I appreciate you okay
27932s	you invested on me knowing what you were
27934s	talking about there my goodness
27938s	but there we go it was one of two ways
27941s	right either I do that and then you go
27943s	oh sorry flame strike and that's
27944s	incredibly funny right or you don't get
27947s	what I'm talking about and I have to say
27948s	flame strike and that's not really funny
27950s	but we move on you know but then we get
27952s	to it then we don't move on and we get
27953s	to explain the joke and that's funny
27954s	again that's the funniest thing you can
27957s	possibly do is explain the joke yeah
27959s	yeah so that's that's where we ended up
27961s	explaining the joke which is always the
27963s	best and no one actually understands
27965s	what the joke is even now if they didn't
27966s	already so it's even funnier
27972s	so I'm good at humor we've known this
27974s	for a while
27976s	uh me smile throwing away the uh oh
27979s	what's it called the four Mana Divine
27981s	Shields
27983s	uh it's like oh something yeah that one
27986s	they've all got the same name oh
27988s	Jitterbug sorry yeah how hard I try I
27990s	can't get the Jitterbug into my brain it
27992s	just it just won't happen
27994s	okay I'm out
27995s	it's like I stop I think I think I think
27998s	and then Wham there it is you know
28000s	that's how it works
28003s	I actually understand these references
28005s	that's what's so terrifying
28009s	but yeah it's the Festival of Legends
28012s	and subtles you know just playing the
28014s	part the role player that he is it's one
28016s	minute past midnight it's officially
28018s	tomorrow I can see is it actually
28020s	tomorrow already it is oh my goodness
28022s	it's tomorrow
28023s	okay well
28025s	talking of tomorrow we will have the top
28027s	eight one of these players will be in it
28028s	alongside wreck van Levick game of RBG
28031s	Casey Wilder Hemlock and of course
28034s	everyone's favorite pipit so yeah stay
28037s	tuned because it's now tomorrow
28039s	seven more matches tomorrow for you
28043s	so uh missile has been paying attention
28045s	to the three-step process he's made a
28047s	thing it has a Divine shield on it
28049s	he is now making it bigger a little bit
28051s	more spice over here
28054s	and obviously yeah I've mentioned this
28056s	several times I mention it one more time
28057s	and then I'm done the the other matchups
28059s	for this Paladin are pretty Grim so
28061s	queuing this is a big deal
28066s	however this is not the fastest start
28070s	that you can possibly imagine here this
28072s	having the weapon is huge having weapon
28074s	plus sous chef is huge because that is
28076s	going to enable me smile to make one
28078s	massive minion at some point uh one
28080s	massive minion tends to do pretty well
28082s	against druid
28083s	but it's he's not Off to the Races just
28086s	yet the hand is a little bit slow
28088s	there's a light Ray in it from the start
28089s	not what you want to see uh Grime Street
28092s	Outfitter great card but still you have
28095s	to invest in playing it for that initial
28097s	turn to be able to get the long-term
28098s	value out of it whereas against Druid
28100s	you'd rather just play Big stats
28102s	straight away as opposed to taking the
28104s	setup turn yeah has managed to get
28107s	himself a collection of one drops this
28109s	is something that does amaze me about
28110s	Druid that isn't mathematically sound
28112s	reasoning they just always have all of
28114s	their one and two drops
28117s	always an aquatic form is a big part of
28119s	that like joking aside it it does have
28122s	it a lot because aquatic clubs lets you
28123s	do it quite often exactly yeah
28126s	accidents
28128s	then you know
28129s	reporting for Duty
28132s	so when do we play the five drop with
28135s	this hand if nothing exciting happens
28138s	so the exciting happens that slows it
28140s	down a bit
28141s	fayala
28147s	um because
28149s	so if you want to play it now you're
28153s	still waiting the same number of turns
28155s	to actually play one of the big minions
28157s	right because it would cost you a coin
28158s	or an innovate and then even say if
28160s	you've got seven drop as it would then
28162s	cost uh you'd still be two turns away
28164s	from doing it
28166s	going into five next turn and only
28168s	having one quote coin available to you
28170s	at that point so I think it's probably
28172s	just worth waiting and jamming it on
28174s	curve
28176s	and then from that point you can
28178s	potentially have the coin and The Vape
28179s	to uh play whatever you want from the
28182s	draw of course your plays very wildly
28184s	depending on whether you get mishmash
28185s	Masher or uh you know or an ubercon or
28188s	whatever else holding on to both coin
28190s	and vape could be useful if you end up
28192s	with the immune in your hand as well to
28195s	go alongside them because that would be
28197s	huge
28200s	I don't think this has actually told us
28201s	that he's definitely doing that he
28203s	probably is now but okay
28206s	I think in this case there is a four
28207s	five coming down now
28216s	how does Paladin get through a large
28219s	zock
28221s	uh class the action lawyer
28224s	oh yes class comma action lawyer
28228s	numbers one and two
28232s	yeah they're identical twins they both
28233s	went into they both passed the bar
28235s	simultaneously
28236s	both named class
28240s	amazing I'd really struggle I've never
28242s	passed by in my life
28245s	me smile uh avoiding the shade of
28247s	naxrama's test and actually using his
28249s	weapon before he died
28253s	too much where people just hold on to it
28255s	and just sit there looking at it while
28256s	they explode yeah
28259s	but yeah use that card it's there to be
28261s	used it's not there as a 27 point lethal
28263s	I mean if you can make sure you lethal
28265s	them sure do it but just just use it to
28266s	make a nice fat minion that's going to
28268s	kill your opponent
28270s	just like this
28272s	exactly look at it it's just a seven
28274s	seven that's just going to
28277s	yeah it's turn five you've got a seven
28279s	seven that's protected
28281s	to have one
28283s	double rake though very very big deal
28292s	can Grieve Your Cat hero power and
28293s	because of that last innovate
28295s	then still drop double rake
28303s	which is a huge board swing it has to be
28305s	says
28306s	honestly thinking well you at least you
28308s	get to kill the seven seven you actually
28309s	just get to tidy up both of them
28315s	it is just flame stroke yeah it's all
28317s	gone
28322s	so basically the only things that were
28323s	survived were the two Minions that had
28325s	Divine Shield just as they would have
28326s	done if it was flame strike he is always
28328s	right but if you've noticed that no
28331s	matter how much Fino tries to stop him
28332s	from being always right he's just always
28334s	right no listen like I I called it I
28337s	called bgbm Lo-Fi as much as anyone else
28340s	did I'm not that's not correct
28343s	[Laughter]
28344s	that did not make sense and I'm not
28346s	pretending that it made any sense it's
28348s	just very funny
28352s	no well I think that is exhibit a as to
28355s	why it didn't make any sense
28357s	thanks
28360s	wow it all started off so polite around
28361s	here now look where we're at now all
28363s	right it's um time to
28366s	she's a bug I think
28370s	because that's all he could do
28373s	it you want to make them bigger right it
28376s	is just slipping a little bit
28378s	um
28383s	thank you
28385s	I think um yala's in need of an
28388s	underking if this is gonna get going
28391s	right sure
28393s	not a lot more like when you say
28395s	slipping you don't need many things to
28396s	to slip when you're that place
28400s	I'm gonna tell chat what's in the ETC or
28402s	should we just let them guess and I know
28404s	chat likes to ask I don't really want to
28405s	spoil their fun
28408s	it's crazy Alchemist
28413s	I mean you've kind of started now
28415s	yeah I don't have they been good do you
28418s	think they deserve to know what's in the
28420s	ETC a chat's always good they're the
28422s	best I think all right fine
28424s	can't you how to play it so we can see
28425s	what the other cards are it's uh
28427s	Alchemist photo starfish if I remember
28430s	rightly it is indeed yeah okay
28436s	at all useful in this situation
28440s	they're not
28442s	starfish actually eventually will be
28447s	um yala will be eventually dead before
28449s	that happens uh if he had seven Mana
28452s	hey it's still not useful yeah is that
28454s	eight months it costs four now
28459s	remember when smothering starfish was
28462s	such a terror automata game they had to
28464s	Nerf us
28464s	[Music]
28468s	uh
28469s	meanwhile rounds three kind of
28480s	this is a pretty gruesome decisions to
28483s	have to make I don't know if it's
28484s	because they're hard because we're
28485s	watching yala make decisions which
28487s	always feel
28489s	um torturous because of the time he puts
28491s	it
28495s	wow with a steel chair
28500s	in my life
28504s	on Saturday Night Fever anymore it's
28506s	officially Sunday morning it doesn't
28508s	even work
28510s	why did I go with subtle last
28513s	I'm not used to this he knows I don't
28515s	understand anything okay
28518s	that's the pilot out of there it did
28520s	look just for a minute like yala had
28521s	managed to swing it around he's going to
28523s	No sell everything from this point on
28524s	him so that's fair
28527s	um it looked like he had sorted it some
28529s	degree but yeah two times later he was
28531s	dead exploded and that leaves him with a
28534s	druid sized problem as I've been
28535s	describing it all day they both have one
28537s	though so that's that's fair they do
28539s	both have one yeah
28540s	[Music]
28542s	it has seemed like the players who
28545s	managed to dodge the Druid bring have
28547s	looked more comfortable in most groups
28551s	and because we haven't necessarily gone
28552s	through the groups in the conventional
28553s	sense we haven't necessarily had that
28556s	um that group by group Narrative of like
28558s	oh this is the this is the fully aggro
28560s	group this is the group you don't want
28561s	to have Druid in Druids actually okay
28563s	over here it's a lot harder to kind of
28564s	break that thing down Group by group and
28566s	generally all the shadow priests and
28569s	various other things that we've been
28570s	seeing that have been potentially making
28572s	Druids uh druid's life miserable it has
28574s	seemed like Druid has not been the bring
28576s	I know that
28578s	was expressed by a lot of players that I
28581s	spoke to about lineup building it's like
28583s	I can't find a fourth deck unless it's a
28587s	bad or B Druid and I don't want it to be
28590s	either opposed for various reasons um
28593s	and we've seen I think people end up on
28595s	some arguably pretty bad decks and some
28597s	people end up on Druid and both of those
28600s	come with their inherent risks
28602s	I'm gonna go on a limb here which is a
28604s	very Raven thing to say to you
28606s	um
28607s	I'm gonna say that if this tournament
28610s	was three years ago with players of
28612s	similar strength most of them would have
28613s	brought druid
28615s	I I think that players have evolved of
28617s	their understanding of Conquest even
28619s	though it's been around for a long long
28621s	time this meta game but through this
28623s	exact meta game but three years ago with
28625s	the players being as good as they were
28626s	back then players of this strength
28628s	whatever
28629s	I think that players had not evolved
28632s	enough in conquest at that point to
28633s	dodge the Druid anti-druid Druid like
28636s	mess
28637s	so basically what you're saying is yala
28640s	is an unevolved life form that's what
28642s	I'm hearing
28644s	sure whatever you hear you go with okay
28647s	okay um but yeah that's what I'm saying
28648s	I think I think that a long time ago
28650s	well not that long ago sorry players
28652s	would still have been bringing the best
28654s	decks or targeting
28657s	the best decks and a couple of years ago
28659s	people started targeting third and
28661s	fourth decks a lot yeah and now at the
28664s	stage where people are anticipating the
28665s	Target on their third or fourth deck and
28667s	dodging it
28668s	yeah I understand what you're saying I
28671s	will add though I think I think there
28673s	are times still now where it's correct
28675s	to just bring the four best decks and
28676s	let's sure yeah absolutely let the
28678s	people try and Target you right it's
28680s	just the Druid is in a spot where Druid
28683s	kind of sees play in the right meta game
28685s	and we'll see Zero play in the wrong
28687s	message right because it's so good at
28690s	doing one thing and so bad at doing the
28692s	other
28693s	um which makes it a more difficult debt
28696s	to force yourself to bring even if you
28699s	do believe it to be one of the four best
28700s	decks because you know the tech to
28703s	Target it is very very easy to decipher
28705s	no I'm absolutely in agreement with that
28707s	I just think that a few years ago people
28708s	would have brought it anyway
28710s	sure and just dodged all the the second
28713s	and third guessing and what's gonna
28715s	happen and just going well the other
28716s	decks are really pretty rubbish so one
28718s	of those statements was like I don't
28720s	really have any way to dispute that
28722s	because it involves time travel so if
28724s	you want to believe it go ahead no no I
28726s	wasn't even trying to get you to um
28727s	that's just my opinion I just wanted to
28729s	do the thing where it's just Raven sits
28731s	here says a thing yeah it's just I think
28734s	the players have evolved a lot in their
28736s	understanding of Conquest over the last
28738s	few years
28739s	said it again he said yolo is an
28741s	unevolved life well maybe Yana has
28743s	evolved two levels past
28747s	I like it right so he's evolved so
28749s	quickly that he's got to the point where
28751s	you bring it anyway
28752s	because it's just a good deck he's
28754s	evolved to the level of hearthstone
28756s	bucket hat which I have not yet so
28758s	that's one thing oh yeah same actually
28759s	yeah
28762s	[Music]
28763s	getting it that would take off my bucket
28765s	hat list
28768s	it's uh
28775s	you're taking notes that's how you
28776s	politely enjoy someone's bad joke by the
28778s	way just just you've always politely
28780s	enjoyed my bad jokes
28783s	I'm lying how much does Ava max pay for
28785s	a haircut
28786s	it depends on the the time I'm telling
28788s	the joke which
28790s	um currency I'm using on the day okay
28791s	but it's it's 20 at the moment okay it
28794s	should be 40.
28798s	anyway
28799s	but she gets half off right
28801s	yes
28803s	and that's why it only costs 20.
28807s	[Music]
28809s	see he's not politely enjoying this joke
28811s	is he I participated in that joke I'm
28814s	not gonna
28816s	yeah exactly
28818s	we're setting a really high bar for the
28820s	others to to come over the top on here
28822s	doing well
28824s	okay so when do you start freezing your
28827s	opponent's stuff when they just have a
28828s	little three two
28832s	and you really want to get your weapon
28834s	going
28835s	yeah I don't think it was weapon for the
28836s	sake of freezing but it might have been
28838s	weapon for the sake of eight damage I
28839s	can get behind that but
28841s	oh my goodness what's this rubbish it's
28844s	probably the last turn you really feel
28845s	like trading anything for quite some
28847s	time so it does make some sense to
28848s	activate the Vizio
28852s	what makes less sense is this any of
28855s	these spells yeah
28856s	corpse explosion can you get to 22
28858s	corpses and just clear the boards off
28861s	you go kids you can have a good go
28867s	ES four of them next time you get
28869s	offered um corpse explosion you need to
28871s	get through zokia there
28874s	Joe always took me it took me a while to
28876s	process
28877s	um because you'll see that car get taken
28879s	and then people go oh really that was
28881s	the pick and then someone will say yeah
28882s	yeah they just wanted the corpses right
28884s	like you hear that interaction a million
28886s	times I didn't read the first line on
28888s	the card for like two months I didn't
28890s	realize that you just got four corpses
28893s	straight away you thought the Tutu's
28895s	gonna die and just give you yeah that's
28897s	what people keep saying you're gonna
28898s	wait to draw them from your deck and
28900s	then they die so you get more corpses
28902s	what are you talking about
28904s	on that same sort of theme actually
28907s	um why aren't people silencing their own
28908s	Tony
28911s	is that what the starfish is for
28913s	it's an entirely different argument
28920s	well this curve has been pretty
28923s	difficult for me smile honestly because
28926s	this weapon is
28928s	the side effect is so powerful but
28930s	hitting a druid in the face for eight is
28932s	also so powerful mm-hmm
28936s	and the time it works out a lot doesn't
28938s	it the first DK where you play your
28939s	sixes then you're four then your sevens
28941s	it's really bizarre it is and it's why
28944s	again the deck is a little bit more
28946s	difficult to play than you might first
28947s	give it credit for whereas if you do
28949s	just play on curve and you play the card
28951s	that costs four or four on the car that
28953s	costs five on five and the car that
28954s	costs six on six MacArthur costs seven
28956s	on seven you'll win some games you won't
28960s	win as many games as you should
28962s	you do you have to break that up and uh
28965s	do some interesting thing don't get me
28966s	wrong you should spend all of your Mana
28968s	available on any given turn through
28970s	creative use of Horn of winter wherever
28972s	possible it's just sometimes that is
28974s	weird combinations of cards or
28976s	discovered cards or whatever else
28977s	instead of just playing the uh the
28979s	straight up linear curve
28981s	and something that's quite cool about it
28982s	is because the deck is really good you
28985s	might not know you're doing it wrong for
28987s	a long time unless you actually try and
28988s	you know invest time in getting better
28990s	and stuff sure
28993s	which is good from both angles right if
28995s	you never know then it doesn't hurt you
28996s	and if you do know you can sit there and
28998s	look at things
28999s	the good news for young though is that
29001s	through use of the chitinus plating up
29003s	until this point he hasn't really taken
29005s	significant amounts of damage he does
29007s	have the underkings now to play with uh
29009s	I think earlier I was referencing the
29010s	immune which obviously yala is not
29012s	playing he's kind of playing the trim
29013s	down fast version of the deck if you
29016s	like with the uh the chittons plating in
29018s	there instead
29021s	you're not actually playing some cards
29023s	he like I remember Jana from the Warlock
29026s	days you know he's just here it Powers
29027s	every turn and then you and Ray will
29028s	talk for 10 minutes about how he's going
29030s	to use a card and then he wouldn't and
29031s	he'd just draw another card
29034s	I was just sort of half expecting to
29035s	just weave with Druid you know suddenly
29037s	have 700 armor and nine cards in hand
29039s	and not have played a card all game
29042s	does that
29044s	yeah I think one of the one of the few
29046s	players left remaining who plays
29048s	Hearthstone at a high level with kind of
29051s	the life coach mentality right of well I
29054s	could use this now but it might get
29056s	better later whereas I think most top
29059s	level Hearthstone players now play the
29061s	game to the tempo Goods put pressure on
29064s	opponent put stats in play play cards
29068s	spend Mana do things right whereas that
29070s	is very much highly in control as
29072s	someone who has sat and played endless
29074s	amounts of hot of games of hearthstone
29076s	with life home and seen the world's
29079s	greatest Maelstrom portal which life
29081s	coach will not take because he didn't
29083s	have three spell damage totems on the
29085s	board at the time so it'll get better
29086s	wow
29088s	um yeah it happens but I do think yala
29091s	is very much from that life coach school
29093s	of thought where it's you know max value
29095s	out of Max cards over the course of the
29098s	game but he still has that great
29099s	understanding of like well there's no
29101s	good saving this for value on turn 10
29103s	when the game's gonna end on turn nine
29105s	right
29106s	you still have to set the flag as where
29109s	the end of the game is and gets max
29111s	value out of your cards before that
29113s	point that's the difficult part and one
29115s	of the later GM Seasons he did start to
29117s	test himself and bring aggressive decks
29120s	because he felt he should yeah you
29122s	remember weapon rogiala for like five
29124s	straight yeah so wherever it was yeah
29126s	exactly and I think I think he knew that
29128s	the game was changing and talking of
29130s	evolving players and why yala is still
29132s	one of the greatest players ever he did
29134s	force himself to get out of his comfort
29137s	zone and start doing the the tempo thing
29139s	to hit you with the weapon thing so as
29142s	much as we're sort of putting him in
29144s	that bracket he has very much changed
29146s	his style with the times yeah Jana is
29149s	just good at Hearthstone you couldn't
29151s	you can try and pigeonhole him into
29152s	whatever style you want and I did just
29154s	do that
29161s	I think also funny is remember
29164s	um I don't know eight years ago the
29167s	debate was always but there's a right
29168s	and there's a wrong way
29170s	and I think we've proved that to be I
29173s	mean fundamentally there probably is but
29175s	it's never going to be attained I think
29177s	we now know I
29179s	stand by it like there is an optimal
29181s	play to be made on any given turn but I
29183s	think anyone claiming that they can
29185s	calculate that in Hearthstone is lying
29186s	to you yeah
29193s	where the skill cap will never be
29195s	reached and it's because of the level of
29197s	Randomness in the game right like it's
29198s	just what makes it so difficult to play
29201s	yeah Casey just plays perfectly because
29203s	he knows like he just feels The Matrix
29205s	he just knows where the things are but
29207s	he doesn't actually calculate he just
29208s	plays the cards because it's right to do
29210s	so
29212s	yo Casey's just a time traveler like
29214s	he's come from the past where everyone's
29215s	still playing Druid and then he's gone
29217s	to the Future and so he knows the
29220s	results of all the games already and
29221s	then he's come back
29223s	Casey's Place Road
29225s	also it's just not that complicated he
29228s	just plays Rogue that he's also true
29230s	with it oh
29235s	yeah okay that's terrifying my little
29238s	eyes lit up and thought I could play a
29239s	Jailer here that'll be fine but I don't
29241s	think you get there ever you just die
29243s	horribly I'm sorry
29245s	you do have the other underking in hand
29247s	already though
29248s	um
29250s	you're at 20 you play it you take seven
29253s	plus a frostworms fury
29255s	to take 12 plus one ticket fatigue 13
29257s	you're at seven and then under King
29259s	gains you 12.
29262s	yeah it's not good enough though is it
29264s	you need too many turns yeah I mean it
29267s	does die there's a six five Lord
29269s	no no if you jam Jayla I'm sorry
29272s	oh sure yeah yeah that's true yeah I
29274s	mean stupid yeah at least you only gain
29275s	the armor from the Battle Cry in that
29277s	case but you do just kill all their
29279s	things really quickly and they have to
29281s	finish you off with a few of these but
29283s	they probably do they do yeah if you're
29285s	if with the with the immunity and you're
29287s	not even getting the death rattle armor
29288s	it's not close
29289s	you are absolutely just dying if they
29291s	have any cards in their hands
29294s	oh
29296s	does that help
29297s	oh my God he drew it but it was the only
29300s	thing that could possibly come from the
29301s	power chart yeah you know
29306s	at least it's not um they dredge your
29309s	card and then you then draw it the next
29310s	time
29311s	what an incredible draw
29313s	yeah you take the um you take the one
29316s	drop from the nagaling because you can
29318s	put it on the board of that tone because
29319s	you've only got one Mana yeah
29322s	what
29325s	oh
29327s	the thrilling or the one drop because
29330s	I'll take the one that I can play this
29332s	turn
29334s	never done that
29338s	okay this marrow does some damage
29342s	does these Rowdy fans also do some
29344s	damage though they does
29348s	it sure does
29353s	that
29358s	yeah swings and roundabouts right like
29360s	this is situational damage and Rowdy fan
29362s	isn't because you have a hero power and
29364s	regardless you're keeping your board
29365s	here anyway however the downside of this
29368s	is that it forces you to use your
29370s	asphyxiate
29372s	which now means you have to be pretty
29374s	confident that you're dealing with all
29375s	this mess because you know all the
29376s	Minions are in hand right because you
29378s	saw yeah you do you saw one card get
29380s	drawn from the uh the flower child
29388s	see those rowdies are now never doing
29390s	anything of any use
29395s	two two for you fear Corpses
29398s	I mean that's a draw
29408s	hurry up okay
29419s	oh
29421s	[Music]
29423s	he's got nothing left
29427s	[Music]
29429s	now you don't play the Jailer trust me
29431s	on that
29432s	yes you cannot play Jayla here
29436s	immune minions lose taunt in case you
29439s	are not familiar
29441s	that would be terrifying way to lose or
29443s	rather to be technically precise they
29445s	don't lose taunt the the taunts simply
29447s	no longer functions as thought I believe
29450s	they can still be destroyed by Black
29451s	Knight despite the taunt not working so
29453s	they do still have taunt they just
29455s	cannot function as torn minions immune's
29458s	very weird
29461s	it is
29462s	such a simple keyword as well just you
29465s	can't do things to this except for this
29467s	this this and this yeah
29472s	I love
29473s	think for 30 seconds and then seemingly
29475s	arbitrarily throw a couple of minions in
29478s	yeah I I can um
29481s	I don't understand that I've been there
29482s	a few times
29484s	just just look at my hand and then look
29486s	back again and work out I don't know
29487s	what I'm doing and then just press some
29489s	buttons
29496s	now what
29499s	oh I see he wants to know if he's got
29500s	broad space with a cat or not okay
29501s	that's a fair question
29507s	in the world where he gets frozen
29509s	multiple times
29513s	should this be on the board pushing
29515s	damage or should it be in his hand
29517s	making the board have two seconds I
29519s	think it's more manner expenditure with
29522s	the card drawer right no no it would
29524s	have been playable anyway right it would
29525s	have been zero with the groovy cut so
29527s	yeah it is board space that he's
29528s	thinking about you're absolutely right
29529s	there is a starfish in this Etc which is
29532s	actually relevant now yeah playing the
29535s	card draw was essential in that spot
29538s	because he needs to go fishing for that
29540s	out
29542s	but it also keeps him he's got two
29543s	spaces on board that he needed two
29545s	spaces on board to play TC and starfish
29550s	Yuri way
29553s	oh no
29558s	oh yeah excellent as well that's exactly
29560s	the reasoning Behind The Groovy cat not
29561s	being played right is if you get the
29563s	full freeze you still have two board
29564s	spaces left over yep
29567s	[Music]
29574s	22 and it would be lethal as well so the
29577s	quote downside of silencing away your
29578s	own taunt doesn't matter because you
29580s	would just straight up murder the
29581s	opponent
29584s	that's my one for the day and it's
29585s	tomorrow already so don't watch tomorrow
29587s	because that'll be embarrassing
29592s	just having to go through the hard way
29595s	yeah
29596s	[Music]
29602s	but now that's still what 18 on boards
29605s	plus the hero belt yeah
29608s	18 plus the hero power
29612s	I mean all crazed out quite sure yeah if
29614s	you want to do if you want to do it that
29615s	way then oh yeah no he's not he's not
29617s	we've been working out as if he's Frozen
29618s	but he's not actually Frozen yeah I mean
29622s	yeah I think at this point if you put a
29625s	crazed Alchemist in your Etc you're
29626s	doing it the crazed Alchemist way
29629s	indeed improve I'm trying y'all I'm
29631s	trying
29634s	give me a good go 2-1 he's one game away
29637s	from another top eight
29640s	um and Casey in the top eight as well
29642s	the two people I associate with just top
29644s	hating everything both gonna have a
29647s	chance of getting there it's ridiculous
29649s	for years and years you've learned very
29652s	well Lorinda that if you're casting with
29654s	subtle you have to give Casey his
29655s	flowers or else you'll get the case each
29657s	Spiel at some point during the course
29658s	hey I did the Casey Spiel earlier win
29662s	rates I don't know if you heard um so
29664s	I'll go do it again because it's
29666s	tomorrow now
29667s	um true yeah so the top players have
29669s	sort of been hanging out in each other's
29670s	streams and talking a lot over the
29672s	course of this tournament it's a sort of
29674s	camaraderie because they're all in it
29676s	together with a lot of games and Casey
29679s	is consistently playing like half as
29681s	many games as everybody else with a one
29683s	or two percent higher win rate so he's
29686s	keeping up with them with half the work
29687s	so yeah
29689s	I think I think he said that the Gap has
29691s	narrowed over the last two or three
29692s	years and sort of it used to be two or
29694s	three percent ahead but now he's sort of
29696s	one or two percent ahead so it's
29697s	narrowing but he's he just wins more
29700s	games than anybody percentage-wise I can
29703s	certainly believe it uh what I can't
29705s	believe though it's the the idea of
29708s	targeting Druid while having Druid and
29710s	frosty Frosty K in your lineup is
29712s	necessarily a good way to be going about
29714s	things because uh as we just saw we kind
29717s	of debated it we said you know there is
29718s	a little bit of debate I think it is
29719s	probably uh Frost favored but I don't
29722s	think it's enough to be looking at a
29724s	kind of Target lineup kind of thing
29725s	which to be clear
29727s	targeting in Conquest has various
29729s	degrees of what players are actually
29730s	trying to do with their lineup and I
29732s	certainly think this is a it's a lineup
29734s	where he's trying to get an edge against
29736s	Jerusalem Players let's put it that way
29739s	um and now having lost a match up
29741s	against Druid I think The Druids on both
29743s	sides as we mentioned was going to be a
29745s	real Crux in the series and that having
29748s	now picked up the wins I mean
29750s	also we are talking about that as a
29753s	ladder thing as a generic thing this is
29755s	a tournament you know you're weak to
29757s	some things you can put starfish in your
29760s	Etc if you're playing a tournament for
29762s	instance and you think you might play
29763s	against a frost DK targeting you yeah
29767s	you can you can always make your weak
29768s	deck a little bit better if you suspect
29770s	it might be
29771s	um fired up
29774s	now don't like that we've reached the
29777s	point of advocating more people play Etc
29779s	I'm not I'm not on board with that at
29781s	all I would like to uh
29783s	quite clearly state that my year was
29785s	under duress there and we can move on
29788s	yeah but Etc is great isn't it chat but
29791s	what's in it what is in it no one else
29794s	no one knows
29797s	just the ETC pinata is just there
29801s	stuff in it
29804s	all right Lorena
29806s	here we go and I know you are very
29808s	interested in and have played a whole
29810s	bunch of times and experimented a whole
29811s	bunch and why don't you tell us
29813s	everything about what you've learned
29815s	about Relic Demon Hunter versus Drew put
29818s	numbers on the board at all costs any
29820s	old rubbish will do nice luck people
29822s	goodness they're a genius
29826s	actual genius this is difficult
29828s	metamorphosis will deal with the devil
29830s	both mediocre might end up taking the
29832s	Unleashed fell because you get through
29833s	with the spell damage and probably do I
29835s	was gonna say in my opinion only one of
29837s	these cards is playable and it's the one
29842s	you know my um my guilty pleasure in
29844s	this matchup right in the discovers
29848s	people brand sinfulness
29852s	you get stuck and they think they've got
29854s	you in your simple brand there for 20
29856s	million and you just blow it up 100
29858s	times until they die from it it's great
29860s	I do not like this pick
29865s	it does a
29867s	it does I'm surprised I thought I
29869s	thought he would take a leash I've got
29870s	to admit it does hate when you spend six
29872s	man on it yes I think if you're spending
29874s	six mana on things that aren't putting
29876s	stats in play you're probably not in a
29877s	good place
29879s	and to be fair I have taken this card
29881s	many times against Druid I'm in a
29883s	position to agree with you against yala
29887s	in this situation yeah
29889s	it's two really bad news for you it's
29892s	not a hand filled with things to do
29894s	let's put it that way it's not like this
29896s	Relic vault is going to get used over
29898s	the next few turns
29900s	um so it might be that yala thinks he
29901s	can just play this metamorphosis on turn
29903s	five if he doesn't find it
29910s	the one thing that sometimes goes wrong
29912s	with the unleash fill especially if
29914s	you've got one already is you kill under
29917s	Kings by accident
29919s	yes
29921s	there that's a statement I have made yes
29925s	you are going to lethal them with Steno
29927s	you need to kill those under Kings at
29929s	some point anyway
29931s	which is a quite common way to win the
29933s	matchup to be clear this is a druid
29934s	favorite matchup I think this is
29937s	um on a hunter for sorry I think I'm now
29939s	favored against Druid the only unfavored
29941s	class for me with this deck is Hunter
29942s	and it shouldn't be that matchup is easy
29945s	I don't really understand how that's
29946s	happened I think I'm 0 and 5 against
29948s	Hunter but I threw three of them yeah so
29950s	I learned what I was doing yeah I'm like
29952s	five and eight or something that's very
29954s	strange but this is unfavored I'm pretty
29956s	sure that everyone agrees it's unfavored
29958s	you've just played a million games of it
29960s	so yes but so there's a few ways where
29962s	you can win it you just Tempo out like
29964s	you curve out coins fella in into school
29967s	teacher or other way around or whatever
29968s	you just play minions every turn you hit
29970s	your opponent they die right that's one
29972s	way of winning it the other way is if
29974s	they get to the combo and they play the
29976s	zox for like 22 Health taunts or
29978s	whatever you just have to kill all the
29980s	other minions and then their face is
29982s	still the lowest Target because the
29984s	taunts will still have like 17 Health
29985s	remaining or whatever at which point
29987s	steno Rowdy fan can just continue to go
29989s	face at that point so for me having 15
29993s	Unleashed bells in your hand to be able
29995s	to do all that is actually still a very
29997s	useful thing in the match-up even though
29999s	it would seem like unleash fell doesn't
30001s	really do anything because it's not an
30003s	anti-aggro matchup and let's not forget
30005s	unleash fell still deals three face with
30007s	silver moon right you know like that's a
30009s	significant amount of damage I think
30011s	every time I've been in that position
30012s	where what you just said is my wincon I
30015s	have thrown it one at every possible way
30017s	I've thrown that
30019s	um where I've just made their things
30020s	smaller by mistake because I I play
30022s	something on them oh no we should go on
30024s	face first meanwhile combo's starting to
30027s	set up here yeah full cost for
30028s	everything though which is yeah it's
30030s	gonna be a pretty big problem
30032s	if you're gonna end up paying three for
30034s	your Steno and three for your Rowdy fan
30036s	Druid is just gonna ramp past the point
30039s	where you have Mana to really do that in
30041s	most situations so this is not looking
30043s	like a great hand as it stands for yala
30046s	anybody this is actually one of the um
30049s	hands I hate the most when I play this
30051s	matchup is the school teacher Vault hand
30054s	because the Vault isn't Tempo unless you
30057s	hit more things which you should because
30058s	your deck's full of them and the school
30060s	teaches great as a 4-4 but if you've got
30062s	nothing on the board before it they're
30064s	two one and two two as it's happening
30065s	here deal with it so your 4-4 isn't that
30068s	good and I found that this hand goes
30071s	wrong really often and it's even like at
30074s	least if you have Vol vizier and you can
30076s	hear phantasms off the vizier right and
30078s	then it's a real copy of phantasms that
30080s	you can use your bolt on whereas teacher
30083s	noglings don't work with vaults you do
30085s	continue to just get those awkward hands
30087s	that don't really work
30091s	yeah this is this is um
30094s	wow
30096s	even by yard of standards that was close
30103s	yeah he's ended up having to sort of
30104s	play quite slowly here to to get his
30107s	teacher down because the Vault costume
30109s	needs a whole turn
30112s	oh
30115s	second hero power Vape flower child or
30117s	you can just rake flower child if you
30119s	wanted to finale at this turn
30124s	this is one of the interesting the Druid
30126s	Deck I don't think is the hardest of the
30127s	Decks that we are going to see this
30129s	weekend but
30130s	how to manage your innovates and coins
30133s	is definitely an important part of the
30135s	the tougher part of the deck yeah for
30137s	sure
30141s	it's racist flower child two plus two
30143s	allows them to clear up the four four
30146s	because The Druids sometimes wins this
30147s	matchup by just going here's my Jailer
30149s	beat me okay nowhere new brakantha
30152s	that's a big deal
30155s	that starts to make this a little fairer
30157s	again
30161s	it's a zero Mana spell from the fella in
30164s	as well so he now has two zero Mana
30166s	spells to go alongside uh six Mana Steno
30169s	plus rowdy
30174s	the problem is he's just behind on Tempo
30178s	so he's not getting Chip damage with
30181s	minions yeah this is the Cardi's been
30184s	missing the entire time
30186s	I'm just looking at me smile's hand and
30188s	going at some point he can just innovate
30190s	Jayla because he's done so much damage
30192s	already I don't think it's gonna happen
30193s	I think that yala will get stuff on
30195s	board but there's a world where he just
30197s	plays a Jailer yeah
30201s	foreign
30208s	[Music]
30210s	combo anytime soon which I think is
30212s	absolutely correct that's not happening
30216s	yep just going to continue to fight for
30218s	Tempo recognizes he needs to win board
30220s	he needs chip damage he needs minions to
30222s	go face
30224s	am I allowed to point out how far away
30226s	it looks like we are from being able to
30227s	spend four mana on metamorphosis this
30229s	game
30231s	uh yes you're allowed to I'm looking at
30233s	whether me smile can actually just play
30235s	the
30236s	the 3-2 now hero power and literally
30239s	just play Jayla next to her it's so
30240s	close to be able to do that because of
30242s	the damage in the way that the board is
30243s	yeah
30245s	[Music]
30252s	I don't think he's going to but I think
30254s	he wants to give himself a chance to if
30255s	yala misses on a turn if y'all are
30258s	dimensions here and just doesn't hit or
30260s	doesn't play the things he draws from it
30263s	on him
30265s	a Jailer on him
30267s	for No One
30270s	yeah again immune is weird if you're not
30272s	familiar with how immune Works uh Steno
30274s	can still attack immune minions uh
30277s	immune means cannot be targeted and
30280s	immune to sources of damage however if
30282s	something is random it can still hit an
30285s	immune minion it will just deal zero
30286s	damage to it so when a Jailer comes down
30289s	with immune alongside other minions your
30291s	steno is never going to deal damage face
30293s	at that point unless you have done wild
30295s	amounts of damage already and put them
30297s	below the break point where stano will
30299s	Target them and did you see that play he
30301s	just a good maid um got three attack and
30304s	just hit him in the face with it right
30305s	yeah yeah yep which is really you think
30309s	of the judge as the control deck in his
30310s	matchup right he's trying to get down to
30313s	turn 10 or whatever and just stop you
30315s	from killing them and he just went face
30317s	he's still trying face
30329s	and he's forced to trade
30334s	you're the hates this doesn't it he
30336s	hates this trait yeah he does get to
30339s	replace it with more damage face anyway
30341s	though which I think is fine I think
30343s	otherwise you would never make that
30345s	trade firstly because you know you have
30347s	to sleep at night and have self-respect
30349s	yourself in the mirror but secondly
30352s	because it just it wouldn't be right you
30353s	know it doesn't actually change that
30355s	much about the Jailer breakpoints anyway
30356s	but because you get to replace it with
30358s	the Rowdy fan and push damage to face
30360s	anyway I think it's just worthwhile in
30362s	the end
30363s	do you take the clear now are you scared
30365s	of the second phantasms I mean the
30367s	second factors is there but I think me
30369s	Smiles got every right to not expect to
30372s	see it
30373s	this cell by the way is huge from yala
30376s	because it does prevent the Jailer right
30378s	you can't just failure into this yeah
30380s	yeah too much damage on board you can be
30383s	put below 10 which means that then I
30385s	would then be looking to Target your uh
30387s	your Jailer at that point as long as
30388s	board space can be made making the board
30390s	spaces a little bit awkward but you can
30392s	make it happen with immolation aura or
30394s	whatever else
30398s	I can jail it but look at all the other
30401s	nice toys I have in the world where yard
30403s	stops me up I've still got all sorts of
30404s	lovely things to do this being one of
30407s	them
30412s	Enchanted big deal honestly against the
30416s	uh the 1010 that just landed with immune
30419s	so uh you were talking to me about this
30422s	before the tournament that's anti-rogue
30424s	Tech in general right it's yeah
30431s	yeah
30432s	um because of that ability to get
30433s	through that late game board you
30434s	actually can clear up 22 Health taunts
30437s	if you have Juiced relic of Extinction
30439s	by that point as well alongside like a
30441s	silver moon Unleashed fell or whatever
30442s	else but yeah Rogan drew it a two of the
30444s	better matchups of the card for sure
30448s	yeah there it is
30449s	yeah it's there but it's never Feast of
30451s	souls we know that right yes
30455s	in no situation ever has it been feast
30458s	of Souls
30459s	it just looks like it's so often it
30462s	looks like it's always Feast of Souls
30468s	how much is this next turn this is a lot
30478s	um
30484s	[Music]
30488s	really smart actually just pre-loading
30491s	it onto the mishmash musher and just
30492s	letting it Rock so if it attacks it then
30495s	crashes into both minions and you take a
30497s	bunch of damage from it it's really
30498s	smart
30500s	it's almost as if he's done this before
30503s	[Music]
30506s	she's gonna jam it
30509s	just go jam it and then where's your
30511s	smart minion subtle
30514s	Jam the jailer
30516s	let the mosha clear up
30521s	Europe and then you have a seven Health
30523s	minion in play yeah
30525s	tell Yola to have it tell yala to have
30528s	it
30528s	agreed
30532s	time waits for no one
30548s	shot oh he's even got bits and pieces
30549s	left over from the um innovates that you
30551s	saved okay
30555s	well well
30557s	the thing is Thanos in the hand and but
30560s	yeah by the time you've played relative
30562s	dimensions your snow costs three you
30564s	can't play it anyway plus there's a
30566s	Jailer in play and a two Health minion
30568s	in play that will be targeted anyway
30569s	like it's just it's a hiding to nothing
30572s	at this point your leash doesn't heal
30574s	you for more than one at this point yeah
30576s	yala gives up because the the immune
30578s	does stop the lifesteal which is logical
30580s	but again that's going through all the
30582s	weird things that immune does that's one
30583s	of them
30585s	it's just a rough match up if they if
30588s	they ramp into flower child you can
30591s	kinda lose right you have to have hit
30593s	the nuts yourself you have to have gone
30594s	like vote on to phantasms on three coin
30597s	Dimensions you basically if that's the
30599s	only curve that you have as Demon Hunter
30601s	the beats the strong curve that Druid
30604s	had not even the nuts curve just a good
30606s	curve that Druid has it's a very very
30608s	hard matchup to win
30610s	um very very tough and it it you know I
30613s	will again say we died with that
30615s	metamorphosis in hand I don't think it
30617s	was ever being played that game but it's
30619s	those kind of situations that lead you
30621s	to the spot you're like maybe I'll just
30623s	try taking metamorphosis since this game
30625s	you know and see what happens it's not
30627s	like the other players gonna win anyway
30628s	so let's see what happens right
30630s	um so I'm not gonna fault it too much I
30632s	don't think there was any great spot
30633s	where uh once the Silver Moon got drawn
30636s	for example I was waiting for the moment
30638s	where like Silver Moon double unleash
30641s	fell was the nuts right and you didn't
30643s	have the second unleash valve because
30644s	you took the metamorphosis yes that turn
30647s	never came either so I don't think that
30649s	really had any kind of significant
30651s	impact on the game and so yeah as it
30654s	stands it's just a tough match up and
30656s	sometimes you have to get cracked it
30658s	didn't happen but now you mention it
30661s	after Jailer is played and you've got
30663s	the Steno you're damaging the face with
30665s	the Unleashed fell and not the minions
30667s	so it is it's another it is a good car
30669s	you talked about the mechanic a bit
30671s	through the game anyway yeah but yeah
30672s	it's another way of damaging their face
30674s	that isn't damaging their minions and
30675s	getting the steno to go towards that
30677s	face what I will say is that that was
30679s	played very well on the other side as
30682s	well because me smile has clearly been
30684s	in that situation once or twice uh
30686s	himself and played the one two onto that
30689s	board as well so suddenly the target you
30692s	had to move the health below got much
30694s	much lower which plays around those kind
30696s	of situations as well he did a lot of
30698s	little things in that game didn't have
30700s	three damage to face that I don't think
30702s	anybody would do not anybody but outside
30704s	of people who played that match up a lot
30706s	I don't think anyone puts that three
30707s	into the face if you're playing sensible
30709s	straightforward Hearthstone
30712s	I feel like you just kill the three
30713s	three you go in your life because you're
30714s	the Druid and you're supposed to be
30716s	doing nice things
30719s	all right here is one of my favorite
30722s	matchups in the game after just saying
30724s	one of your favorite matchups in the
30726s	game okay yeah fine fine I'll let you
30728s	talk more just have all the matchups see
30730s	if I care
30731s	cool no you talk about this one I think
30733s	you know this one better than me I enjoy
30735s	it but I think you know it better I'll
30736s	let you I'll let you go yeah so I'm not
30739s	great I am favored in this matchup the
30741s	majority of the games I played with uh
30743s	Relic Demon Hunter have been somewhere
30745s	between like 50 and 200 Legend this
30747s	season
30748s	I believe if I was playing in top 20
30751s	where all of the players in this
30753s	tournament play all of their games I
30754s	would not be favored against Frost death
30756s	knight I think that it it's a matchup
30759s	that
30760s	something about the very best players
30762s	they they have the secret codes they
30764s	have they have the launch codes to be
30766s	able to unlock this match up for frost
30767s	DK but I keep winning so I'm really
30771s	interested in it in this tournament as
30774s	to whether it can be a consistently good
30776s	matchup for the process
30778s	have you considered getting to top 50 to
30780s	find out well the problem is is I then
30783s	play other decks for a bit
30786s	Relic Demon Hunter then I climb again
30788s	and I it's very annoying
30791s	and I really wish that I did care enough
30793s	about my rank that I just kept playing
30795s	religion Hunter but I'm not I'm not
30797s	Derek you know you just play one deck
30800s	over and over and you end up retiring
30801s	and going getting a real job at the
30803s	business Factory or something you know
30804s	business Factory indeed but yeah
30809s	yeah I I would never play one deck over
30811s	and over again for weeks and it's not me
30813s	at all no
30814s	absolutely not
30818s	but I have a lot of games on this deck
30821s	and I think you have more to be fair
30824s	all right what do we do in this
30826s	situation solo because this is horrible
30828s	can you see easily I have 211
30834s	um I can't see usually I dare I dare to
30836s	touch anything okay yeah that's fair
30837s	stream I'm touching nothing that is very
30840s	fair
30843s	I think I have more I do think I have
30845s	more
30846s	so let's dig into the minutia a little
30848s	bit right because I was talking before
30850s	with Frost death knight where if you
30852s	just play the standard thing where you
30853s	you know you play your fridge and then
30855s	you play uh fury on seven and he play
30857s	another fury on eight right very
30858s	standard curve that a lot of people
30859s	would have done a whole bunch of times I
30862s	think that's very easy to be as Relic DH
30864s	right and I think you would agree with
30865s	that I've seen you play this match up on
30867s	stream you basically set out from turn
30870s	two to like clear the five fives and
30872s	heal on turn seven and eight right like
30874s	it's just what you what you think of
30876s	immediately I think that's super easy to
30878s	be what I think the best players are
30881s	able to do is a build more aggressive
30884s	early boards right just make minions
30886s	Mulligan for minions play them down put
30888s	Rowdy fan on them hit you in the face
30890s	make you take a million
30892s	City you have to like spell damage clear
30894s	on five
30896s	and then you don't have that spell
30897s	damage and that unleash fell or whatever
30899s	else in your hand for later on in the
30900s	game secondly marrow manipulator
30903s	whenever I play against good player like
30906s	known good players playing Frost death
30907s	knight and they beat me it's because
30909s	they've engineered empty board marrow
30912s	manipulator oh yeah goes face and that
30915s	sounds like an easy enough thing to do
30917s	but it seems to me that only the good
30919s	players do it to me with any level of
30920s	consistency so those are the things that
30923s	I'm looking for specifically
30924s	[Music]
30925s	yet now you mentioned it the times I am
30928s	most distressed and surprised that I
30930s	lost the times where I just get married
30931s	manipulated for eight or ten I'm like oh
30933s	they they were lucky they did this thing
30936s	but yeah and at my level they might be
30938s	yes I don't want to criticize if you've
30940s	done that to me recently well done you
30942s	sure but yeah you'll save the top at
30945s	your level or higher than your level
30946s	they're just doing that on purpose every
30948s	time I can see that that makes sense
30949s	yeah because you look at like miter
30951s	menethil in terms of playing against
30953s	Relic Demon Hunter when you're a
30954s	hardcore damage based deck right you
30957s	have to look at every card in terms of
30958s	net damage so like hardcore cultists for
30961s	example it deals too but it heals them
30963s	for three because it's in play as a
30965s	small minion that they can then use for
30967s	an Unleashed felt clear so the weapon
30969s	deals eight heals for zero because it
30971s	puts nothing in play uh Barrow
30974s	manipulator deals 10 heals for three but
30977s	also lives they need more than that to
30979s	clear the minion after the back so
30980s	there's a good chance it's actually deal
30983s	15 heal for three in the situation where
30985s	they're trying to set up a silver moon
30987s	Guardian Plus on leechville right so
30989s	that to me is the most effective way to
30991s	break down how to effectively deal
30993s	damage to Demon Hunter and the short
30995s	version of it is deal damage by playing
30997s	as few minions as possible
31000s	yeah but playing enough that the marrow
31002s	manipulated will still yeah worst thing
31005s	you have to get your minions played
31006s	before turns right you want to get as
31008s	many of those corpses banked as early as
31010s	you possibly can ideally forcing that
31013s	clear out nice and early
31015s	the other slightly less exciting thing
31017s	to talk about is sometimes your Demon
31021s	Hunter opponent just draws a terrible
31023s	hand
31024s	which is well kind of what's happened in
31027s	this situation kind of but how do we
31029s	like School teaching double tradition
31030s	here I like it a lot the second
31032s	predation has certainly bailed yala out
31036s	a little bit here he can seize Tempo
31037s	quite nicely and I do like it
31039s	just saying I've got some sort of board
31041s	it isn't the best but I'm going to limp
31043s	along until turn six for my Relic my
31045s	other two cards will keep me alive
31046s	because they remove things yeah you just
31048s	drop cars on the board with a pain in
31050s	the bum so you have to get rid of them
31051s	as well and yeah you get somewhere yeah
31054s	you just double clear this turn take the
31055s	value trade and then hope you know your
31058s	nuggling draws a card and then through
31060s	the two or three cards you draw next
31061s	turn you find Relic bolt you play Relic
31063s	ball you're in business there we go
31068s	concerned
31079s	never sad to see your card that says
31081s	Relic on it on an arguing but I think
31082s	you would have preferred card draw there
31084s	in most instances
31086s	is it not kind of car draw though in the
31088s	most Raven of ways because it makes your
31090s	relic of Dimensions better on six so you
31093s	can play the cards it doesn't draw an
31095s	extra card no like I specific it doesn't
31097s	want to draw Relic Vault this turn
31099s	coming up okay raw Relic Vault and play
31102s	it on turn five so you need to draw it
31104s	you need to draw a ladari studies you
31106s	need to find
31107s	um actual hard draw from the Nugget
31112s	got it yeah well just draw it then just
31116s	draw it yeah just just rip it off the
31118s	top
31121s	that second prize anyway it's not bad
31126s	uh security and spectral side please
31130s	it is our time to step out of the Shadow
31133s	wow to do requests oh my goodness it's
31136s	trying to
31139s	this is how you have 70 when we're open
31141s	this deck over 200 games
31142s	go to it right yeah
31145s	see
31146s	I never tried that I swear at my deck
31148s	and just tell it to yeah sort it out
31151s	I'm gonna ask nicely in future for
31153s	security did it only give you one card I
31155s	know I know
31157s	it would have been great though wouldn't
31159s	it it was so close
31161s	yeah
31163s	but you were asking on behalf of
31165s	somebody else maybe it didn't trust you
31166s	enough
31168s	sounds a bit scammy
31170s	all right well here's some cards that
31172s	say marrow manipulated me now either
31175s	it's turned five
31176s	[Laughter]
31178s	let's say horn marrow man
31180s	to me now
31182s	yeah that's how horn Works definitely
31184s	I'm not falling for it subtle
31188s	can't catch me out anymore I have
31190s	evolved
31195s	I mean it's just a lie isn't it of
31196s	course of course you can
31200s	there's some cards that are good in
31202s	other decks and other situations
31204s	[Music]
31211s	um
31212s	I'm thinking that Rune forging is kind
31214s	of the only one that ever does anything
31216s	today in this particular game
31221s	that's kind of look that way right
31232s	it's a damage here now all there as I
31234s	mentioned double marrow manipulator and
31236s	might menather are the best ways to
31238s	actually deal damage to the demon
31240s	Hunter's face in this matchup
31242s	problem is you don't actually have any
31245s	way to stop the board that's coming back
31247s	at you right now
31249s	um
31249s	[Music]
31252s	this is a tough call right your
31253s	opponent's just done nothing of a turn
31255s	and you've got um a pretty good spend on
31257s	my Mana turn
31263s	your Mana turn does involve using your
31265s	unleash Phil though right
31267s	it does yeah which is fine like it heals
31270s	for three and it takes you to 24. that's
31272s	a very healthy position to be in
31278s	but it is actually two aren't they it's
31281s	really nice to get to three before your
31282s	Dimensions but also it's really nice to
31284s	be a head on board and just spend six
31285s	manual Dimension to get it banked yeah
31290s	because you're phantasms if you don't
31292s	play them now never attack that's in the
31294s	games where anything happens of any note
31301s	yeah okay
31307s	I mean the really impressive thing about
31309s	this is that we're looking at a hand
31311s	that doesn't have bridge in it
31315s	and y'all is and Yana spent the turn
31317s	playing two twos anyway
31320s	yeah
31322s	that is actually yeah
31323s	so either he's read the patterns of play
31326s	to predict marrow manipulator or he just
31328s	decided this was fine yeah
31331s	but has he done that consistently for
31333s	eight years like I'm not sure
31337s	that's the point where you learn to back
31339s	yourself so it doesn't end up obviously
31341s	go hero power you can go unleash Fel and
31342s	then you can finale the taste of chaos
31344s	if he wanted to there uh yala actually
31347s	held on to the unleash felt
31349s	which means he did not get to activate
31351s	the taste of Chaos
31366s	Gotta Go Gotta Go
31369s	it's a reasonable draw for the situation
31371s	but you are casting unvaulted Dimensions
31374s	this game which is never too big of a
31376s	win
31377s	yeah
31379s	and that's nothing I mean it's not
31381s	nothing but it's not a lot
31383s	okay
31386s	foreign
31389s	off the top please
31399s	consolation Silver Moon Arcanist
31404s	yeah I need something because
31407s	he's very lucky he's not getting just
31409s	hit oh those are the good cards Neil
31414s	wow
31417s	[Music]
31420s	wow wow
31423s	it's got to be my oh it's so awkward
31426s	actually you don't have enough corpses
31428s	to be able to double marrow manipulator
31430s	over the remainder of the game but if
31432s	you take another weapon
31434s	yeah it takes you X number of turns to
31437s	then chew through all of those weapon
31438s	swings right so they're actually both
31440s	sources of damage are a little slow in
31442s	the spot
31446s	yeah just see what he can with it though
31450s	because the game isn't very long overall
31453s	nope there are some corpses available
31455s	it's four I think now yeah so
31458s	oh
31460s	okay Dimensions interval then yeah
31467s	and hope they don't have the fury
31469s	anytime soon you know they don't have it
31471s	at the moment again there is The
31473s	Arcanist
31477s	sunwell I think so it's a fun world game
31482s	oh no
31484s	gotta work out how much Mana you want to
31486s	pay for this now I think you are
31487s	Arcanist Unleashed felling this turn
31489s	because I think you give your opponent
31491s	credit to not play any minions until
31494s	they kill you this game
31499s	sure that's fair
31501s	Fireball aquatic four
31505s	huh
31508s	he's got to go by the way he's really
31510s	low on time
31512s	there's not much left to do this turn
31517s	it depends you if you want to do aquatic
31518s	form something clever but yeah you're
31520s	too Relic right
31523s	I guess you've got to stay alive okay
31526s	yeah it's by spending one on the uh on
31530s	the somewhere it kind of locked this out
31531s	from being playable on this term
31535s	his spouse is turned a poison Mist
31537s	poison face what are you doing yeah
31542s	also missed a chance to poison a lot of
31545s	things next turn if you are alive but
31547s	maybe you're not alive
31550s	[Music]
31552s	um how often does he win here at 10.
31555s	also were you ever supposed to finale a
31558s	taste of chaos that turned to get
31559s	another Unleashed fell
31561s	like 30 of the time
31564s	maybe so I'm
31568s	entranced by the possibility of a lethal
31570s	here but it's a really far-fetched one I
31572s	think no it's not really far-fetched
31574s	it's a little far-fetched what are you
31577s	trying to dream
31578s	hero power Rowdy fan in the the marrow
31581s	yeah double horn marrow and see where
31583s	you end up
31584s	[Music]
31587s	I think you need three to go face if I
31589s	still capable of math sing at this time
31590s	yeah it's only shooting four as well
31592s	right I think there's only four corpses
31593s	currently
31595s	okay yeah
31598s	so can you change anything by putting
31600s	the
31602s	the Rowdy fan token into a 2-4 I mean
31605s	you can you have an extra court but
31607s	thank you yeah okay
31612s	so kind of the opposite of the expected
31615s	outcome or the hopeful outcome but okay
31623s	this is a lethal setup by the way for me
31625s	smile because he does have the Rowdy fan
31627s	and the mic next turn yeah the double
31629s	horn yep yeah has infinite damage next
31632s	time
31644s	[Music]
31645s	does not look like it's getting there
31652s	what gets him out here not a lot there's
31655s	about there's always something but I
31656s	can't think what
31657s	really gets him out here
31660s	[Music]
31664s	I mean you keep going and find out but
31676s	second sunwell is that available somehow
31678s	I think both videos have gone right so
31682s	yeah both physios have been used
31694s	yeah just has to hope that the only
31696s	source of damage is more marrow
31697s	manipulators but these are both of the
31699s	natural marrows come from the deck
31701s	finds the I-beam but it's too late at
31703s	this point thanks to the way finale
31704s	works and that kind of sends me back to
31706s	the question previously right as what
31708s	where were there the opportunities to
31711s	just play those cards to transform them
31713s	into more potential unleash fail or
31715s	predation even if you have potential
31717s	counter lethal which you weren't far
31719s	away from uh with the fireball even
31721s	Shadow word on death in Android had the
31724s	uh the dead visier on the previous turn
31726s	but that is infinite manner
31728s	um but real real tough one there for
31730s	yala uh do you think a couple of moments
31732s	that I'm going to have questions about
31733s	but I'm naturally going to have more
31735s	questions about LDH games because I've
31737s	played the deck in infinite amount of
31738s	times at this expansion than I am about
31740s	anything else but real real close one
31742s	and as I said coming into it it's a
31744s	matchup that I think is really
31745s	interesting it's a match up with the
31746s	very best players will stay off board
31748s	and just find ways to deal damage from
31750s	off-board and that's exactly what you
31752s	saw happening uh on the other side so
31754s	very very very well played series
31756s	overall and that is a big feather in the
31758s	cap now uh sending yala packing on the
31761s	way very very well played yeah I'm glad
31763s	we got to see me smile because
31765s	um Not only was the he the player that
31767s	probably we knew the least about coming
31769s	into this but also qualified with the
31771s	lowest number of points as well because
31773s	America's region exists
31775s	um or very close to the lowest number of
31777s	points I think one of the Apec players
31778s	may have had fewer
31779s	and we got to see there that this is
31781s	still a top 25 player in the world and
31783s	the difference between somebody like
31785s	that and somebody like me who you know
31787s	hangs out three digits sometimes you
31789s	know quite happily sometimes two digits
31791s	and you see you see a proper player who
31793s	haven't heard much about in the top 25
31795s	showing all kinds of good Nuance that
31797s	social was able to highlight towards
31798s	there I think it was really I'm
31800s	pleasingly got the win I really want
31802s	Yara to do well I'd love to see y'allu
31803s	as world champion but seeing me smile
31806s	take this one down and how he played
31808s	it's nice to highlight some of the the
31810s	Lesser known players because they
31812s	highlighted themselves by playing well
31815s	rather than just having to just say some
31817s	words about top 25 players really good
31819s	to see it yeah I think the the standard
31821s	play in general has been very high we
31823s	expected that coming into the tournament
31825s	I think that that is the reality that
31827s	we've landed upon as well uh it's been a
31829s	great watch up until this point and it
31832s	should only escalate from this position
31833s	because now we have whittled 16 down to
31837s	eight and we will move forward to
31840s	tomorrow or today if you are in the UK
31843s	um and this is going to be the top eight
31844s	that we will be dealing with on Sunday
31846s	and straight away if we are going to do
31849s	this in sequential order we're not going
31851s	to have to wait long for an absolute
31852s	Banger because that is Rec Van versus
31854s	Casey in the potential opening matchup
31856s	of quarterfinals very very nice yeah
31859s	top players friends you know people who
31861s	hang out in twitch streams all day every
31865s	day all the good stuff there
31867s	um going at it right at the start of the
31869s	show Walden beast mode two of the the
31871s	Lesser known players coming in but we've
31873s	seen a lot of me smile well we saw a lot
31874s	of musical in this last match
31876s	um get to see how Wilder gets on as well
31878s	gamer rvg same lineup as mcbander face I
31881s	think card for card they worked together
31883s	presumably like they always have done
31885s	and Levick who wasn't far from being
31888s	world champion last year let's let's say
31891s	that and then Hemlock and pocket
31892s	starting to round it up I think they
31894s	play each other about a million times a
31895s	day on ladder as it is so there'll be no
31897s	strangers to each other
31899s	yeah and what a top eight it is I think
31901s	a lot a couple of the favorites in here
31903s	I think for me Casey and pocket train
31905s	came into this one as potential Front
31906s	Runners
31907s	um and as you pointed out a couple of
31909s	young adults thrown in there as well but
31910s	I don't I'm trying to avoid using the
31913s	word Underdog or or a dark horse or
31915s	anything like that coming in this
31916s	tournament because I'm really trying to
31919s	hammer the point B even if you haven't
31920s	heard of the these players they are
31922s	insane ladder Grinders and incredible
31924s	ladder Grinders are incredibly good at
31926s	Hearthstone I think Lorinda made the
31928s	point earlier and rightly so that there
31930s	is a difference and you do have to make
31932s	that transition from ladder player to
31934s	tournament player and there are skills
31936s	that need to be learned both tangible in
31939s	terms of lineup construction variation
31941s	of decks being able to play a variety of
31943s	things very well and also intangible
31946s	just you know clutch being able to hold
31948s	your nerve not tilting being used to
31950s	having lights and a camera shown at you
31952s	in situations where you're not
31953s	necessarily used to having that done so
31956s	it does need to happen but just to be in
31958s	this place you've consistently hit top
31961s	10 finishes at a time where lots of the
31964s	best players in the world were trying to
31965s	get top 10 finishes which makes you an
31967s	incredibly good afternoon player
31970s	yep and that is as done for today we
31973s	have that top eight two look forward to
31975s	tomorrow uh we will be here at the same
31978s	time I'm not even going to bother
31979s	translating it always goes wrong with
31981s	Summer times and not summer times
31982s	whatever time you started watching today
31984s	we'll be here at that time again
31985s	tomorrow so do whatever you did today
31987s	except earlier we are back baby we're
31990s	here comparative Hearthstone is back you
31992s	can watch it wherever you want we're on
31993s	YouTube We're on Twitch it doesn't
31995s	matter we're back coast dreams don't
31996s	forget yeah co-streamers as well you can
31998s	watch a lot of your favorite people from
32000s	around the community very likely if
32002s	they're someone who is involved in some
32003s	way in competitive Hearthstone and also
32005s	streams there is a good chance they are
32007s	rebroadcasting this tournament as well
32009s	so you can listen to some other people's
32010s	Insight on what's going on which is
32012s	likely in some scenarios uh better than
32015s	ours but you know you can stay here if
32017s	you want but I think it's it's great to
32019s	be back it's been way too long since
32020s	we've been doing this and if you thought
32021s	today was good if you've enjoyed today
32022s	we should be stepping things up tomorrow
32024s	it should be awesome
32026s	we'll see you then take care
32041s	[Music]
32043s	foreign
32055s	[Music]
32061s	[Music]
32067s	[Music]
32081s	[Music]
32096s	thank you
32098s	[Music]
32113s	thank you
32116s	[Music]
32158s	thank you

[2023] 2023 Hearthstone Masters Tour Spring | Day 1

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