devtrackers.gg
10 months
ago -
Hearthstone
-
Direct link
Transcript (by Youtube)
| 2s | foreign |
|---|---|
| 3s | [Music] |
| 51s | thank you |
| 53s | [Music] |
| 76s | foreign |
| 83s | [Music] |
| 135s | foreign |
| 138s | [Music] |
| 148s | foreign |
| 154s | [Music] |
| 186s | foreign |
| 188s | [Music] |
| 237s | foreign |
| 239s | [Music] |
| 275s | thank you |
| 279s | [Music] |
| 303s | foreign |
| 306s | [Music] |
| 336s | thank you |
| 337s | [Music] |
| 374s | foreign |
| 380s | [Music] |
| 436s | thank you |
| 437s | [Music] |
| 438s | foreign |
| 441s | [Music] |
| 452s | foreign |
| 457s | [Music] |
| 490s | foreign |
| 492s | [Music] |
| 529s | thank you |
| 531s | [Music] |
| 558s | thank you |
| 558s | [Music] |
| 586s | hello everyone and welcome to the |
| 588s | Hearthstone Masters Tour summer |
| 590s | Championship I'm Raven and joining me to |
| 593s | kick off today's show is going to be |
| 595s | subtle of course Esson welcome how's it |
| 598s | going it's been a while since we've had |
| 599s | a big standard tournament but it's that |
| 602s | time once again how are you feeling it's |
| 604s | been a while uh yeah no I'm really |
| 606s | looking forward to it it has to be when |
| 609s | Masters tours like this are kind of more |
| 610s | sparse it feels surreal that this is |
| 613s | only like the second Masters Tour event |
| 615s | of the year that we're doing at this |
| 616s | point but if anything it does kind of |
| 618s | get me hyped it makes them special right |
| 620s | if they're rare then that does increase |
| 622s | the the excitement that comes around |
| 624s | when one does appear at least for for me |
| 627s | a little bit so I'm really really |
| 628s | looking forward to sinking my teeth into |
| 630s | some competitive Hearthstone because I |
| 631s | haven't been able to do it for quite |
| 632s | some time |
| 633s | yeah there is a lot to talk about |
| 635s | whether that's the players or the new |
| 637s | meta we have found ourselves in but |
| 639s | first let's just go over the overall |
| 641s | structure of what's going to be going on |
| 643s | this weekend of course is as you |
| 644s | mentioned the second Masters Tour of the |
| 647s | Year all leading up to that world |
| 649s | championship we're now going to have |
| 651s | three Champions by the end of the year |
| 652s | of course we're in a master tour summer |
| 654s | right now we are going to have fall as |
| 656s | well and there's been you know already a |
| 658s | lot on the line for these players when |
| 660s | all of these you know the grinding that |
| 662s | takes place to be able to even to make |
| 664s | it to a tournament like this subtle yeah |
| 666s | it's a very arduous program this year |
| 669s | incredible hard work to even get to |
| 671s | these points uh for the players that |
| 673s | have made it this far we have a lot of |
| 675s | repeat competitors that we did see from |
| 677s | the spring version of this tournament as |
| 679s | well I believe it's 10 returning players |
| 680s | and six new ones so we can see that some |
| 683s | of these players that we're seeing some |
| 684s | of the repeat names have been putting in |
| 686s | the work month after month after month |
| 687s | for top Legend finishes very very top |
| 691s | Legend finishes we're talking like top |
| 693s | five being the prize that you're looking |
| 695s | for in terms of a legend finish at the |
| 697s | end of the month to make it to this |
| 698s | point all with the eventual goal of |
| 701s | making it to that world championship and |
| 703s | being able to call yourself Hearthstone |
| 705s | world champion at the end of the year |
| 706s | which is an incredibly exclusive Club |
| 709s | yeah in Spring we saw levik claim the |
| 712s | champion uh champion title and a book a |
| 715s | spot at the world championship |
| 716s | guaranteed with that qualifier and now |
| 718s | we're gonna |
| 720s | see who else is going to join him by the |
| 722s | end of the week and I'm super excited |
| 723s | we're going to check out the format of |
| 725s | this tournament as well and some of you |
| 727s | have been watching pretty much any |
| 729s | filestone for the baskets will probably |
| 731s | recognize it of Conquest uh so we'll do |
| 736s | that in just a second but overall subtle |
| 738s | uh what what if you think of these uh |
| 741s | these players we will check out the |
| 742s | groups in a little any specific names |
| 745s | that are really sticking out to you yeah |
| 748s | I mean like I said we have a lot of |
| 750s | returning players we do have a lot of |
| 751s | first-time players coming to this |
| 754s | tournament for the first time who |
| 755s | weren't featured in Spring I think out |
| 757s | of those players in particular the one |
| 759s | that's going to grab the most headlines |
| 760s | is Gabby right Gabby has really been one |
| 763s | of the players that has held that mantle |
| 764s | of best player in the world for a |
| 767s | significant period of time |
| 769s | um and now we get to see Gabby sort of |
| 770s | re-entering a field like this and kind |
| 772s | of putting himself uh to the test |
| 774s | against some of this new breed of uh |
| 776s | players that are really fighting it out |
| 777s | for that top player status so I'm really |
| 779s | excited to see Gabby into the field but |
| 781s | honestly those those six names that |
| 783s | we're seeing like uh insane dred-eye |
| 785s | Gabby we've kind of and brenmann as well |
| 787s | we've actually seen a decent amount from |
| 789s | in the past but there's like brand new |
| 791s | names like uh lagrian for example that |
| 793s | we've just never really seen or |
| 794s | certainly for myself in in competitive |
| 796s | Hearthstone and suddenly to be rubbing |
| 799s | shoulders with some of the elite that we |
| 800s | see here in this tournament like that's |
| 802s | a huge step that a player like that will |
| 804s | have to make yeah and that's the thing |
| 806s | to think about I think over the course |
| 807s | of this weekend as we see these players |
| 809s | play out there the group stage today at |
| 811s | least is that yes there are a lot of |
| 813s | names that people before in Hearthstone |
| 814s | will know instantly the likes of Gabby |
| 816s | and so on but uh there are these newer |
| 819s | names are just less common names let's |
| 821s | say well they did exactly the same |
| 822s | they're the same basic barrier to get |
| 824s | here as everyone else so we can check |
| 827s | out what the groups look like so far and |
| 830s | it's one of those tournaments All I'm |
| 831s | gonna say like I always do incredibly |
| 834s | stacked I struggle to even say which is |
| 837s | the you know quotes hardest group and |
| 839s | easiest group because it's just |
| 842s | ridiculous isn't it yes they are all |
| 845s | stacked groups uh unless you're Gabby |
| 847s | who who put out a tweet saying that |
| 850s | essentially group a through C has four |
| 852s | free players in in them and Group D has |
| 855s | three free players and Gabby in it |
| 857s | that's the way the Gabby is broken down |
| 859s | these groups so far but yeah people have |
| 861s | kind of been pointing out Group D as |
| 863s | that potential group of death um band |
| 865s | face Gabby who is our opening round |
| 866s | match-up requam and Hemlock as well |
| 869s | that's four fantastic High Caliber |
| 871s | players but honestly it's such a tough |
| 873s | argument to have because four High |
| 876s | Caliber players is what you end up with |
| 878s | in every group when the qualifying |
| 880s | period to even get to this point is as |
| 882s | tough as it is at this point |
| 884s | yeah it's incredibly tough to get here |
| 887s | and we will be going through uh you know |
| 888s | as many matches as we can of course |
| 890s | through this group stage uh but as you |
| 892s | mentioned so we will be uh starting with |
| 895s | that uh Gabby versus mcbanna face so uh |
| 898s | who we get to talk about lineups in a |
| 901s | minute but even just touching on The |
| 903s | Meta Soul which we've not talked about |
| 904s | it's a matter at least from what I've |
| 906s | been seeing everyone seems to be |
| 908s | enjoying in terms of like the the sort |
| 910s | of player base slash Pro Player base on |
| 913s | a whole yeah I think overall it's been a |
| 915s | very well received expansion overall |
| 918s | from both a casual perspective now we're |
| 921s | going to see what it looks like from a |
| 922s | competitive perspective but I think |
| 924s | looking at the lineups that have come |
| 926s | into this even looking at the lineups |
| 927s | between these two players uh we're |
| 929s | looking at it seems like a mage mirror |
| 931s | in our opening game between Gabby and |
| 934s | Banta but that's two different majors |
| 936s | and we're seeing that kind of throughout |
| 938s | the tournament of different classes |
| 939s | being featured in people's lineups and |
| 941s | different individual decks being brought |
| 943s | within those particular classes and as |
| 946s | we see here from Gabby uh the lineup he |
| 949s | has gone for is with the Naga Sith major |
| 951s | drum Druid Howard Hunter and the nature |
| 953s | otk Shaman but you can see some of this |
| 956s | resume that Gabby has put together I |
| 959s | think the most interesting part of that |
| 960s | little player card for Gabby was that he |
| 961s | says he enjoys the game more the better |
| 963s | he is at it which I think is a a very |
| 965s | competitive mindset to have exactly |
| 968s | where your your enjoyment of a game is |
| 970s | derived purely from beating other people |
| 972s | yeah whereas my enjoyment from games how |
| 974s | just to not be that case because I'm not |
| 976s | good at any game so I have to find Joy |
| 978s | somewhere and take a look at this list |
| 980s | though it's a bit of a I want to say the |
| 982s | word retro subtle in the fact that we've |
| 984s | seen the bones of this archetype in the |
| 987s | past but it's got a few new sort of |
| 989s | Slants on it now with some of the new |
| 990s | cards it does yeah going with the Sith |
| 993s | package and having a few Tools in there |
| 995s | for just to save otk with the flame |
| 997s | geezers |
| 998s | um being able to represent burn damage |
| 1000s | but going with the spike siren package |
| 1002s | overall it is a very 50 50 mishmash deck |
| 1005s | where sometimes you can feel like you |
| 1006s | have a hand with the best part with the |
| 1009s | um you know half of two different Decks |
| 1010s | that don't necessarily interact with |
| 1012s | each other uh the one thing Gabby's done |
| 1013s | there which I do kind of like is |
| 1014s | squeezed an Arcane intellect back in |
| 1016s | there as well because when I was playing |
| 1017s | the deck it did occasionally feel a tiny |
| 1020s | bit light on card draw but we will move |
| 1022s | on to uh banterface here as well who you |
| 1025s | can see is putting together a pretty |
| 1026s | solid resume for himself as well uh he |
| 1030s | is going with the Arcane Hunter he's |
| 1032s | going with rainbow Mage instead like the |
| 1034s | pure spell school focus version of Mage |
| 1036s | as I said even though it looks like |
| 1037s | we're going to be kicking things off |
| 1038s | with a mage class mirror is two |
| 1040s | different decks going up against each |
| 1042s | other and then has the miracle Rogue as |
| 1044s | well which I think historically uh is |
| 1046s | one of banton's all-time favorite decks |
| 1048s | so no great surprise to see him going |
| 1050s | with that yeah and just to get it out |
| 1052s | there now someone has to repeat |
| 1053s | ourselves |
| 1055s | play profiles you could ignore a little |
| 1058s | bit and be there this is a master's tour |
| 1060s | appearance if you want but let's dive |
| 1062s | into it deck I'm a huge fan of I love |
| 1065s | this at the moment maybe put this |
| 1067s | exactly can talk about a little bit |
| 1069s | later once we get into it but I think |
| 1071s | this is a cool archetype for Hunter I'm |
| 1073s | really proud that has been actually |
| 1076s | getting involved in it |
| 1078s | yeah really uh interesting take on kind |
| 1081s | of the aggro hunter archetype now like |
| 1083s | we are seeing two different hunters in |
| 1085s | the current meta game one more |
| 1087s | aggressive which is this version which |
| 1089s | is focused on Arcane spell damage early |
| 1091s | minions mid game pressure and noise and |
| 1094s | disruption with Secrets which then |
| 1096s | curves through into late game burst |
| 1098s | damage either through your buffed up |
| 1100s | Arcane spells uh or just large weapon |
| 1103s | damage from two of the key cards that |
| 1104s | you see highlighted there the starstrunk |
| 1106s | bow or the Titan |
| 1108s | um in comparison again it's kind of a |
| 1110s | similar theme throughout this matchup |
| 1111s | Gabby on the other side is playing a |
| 1113s | slightly slower version of Hunter than |
| 1115s | the 40 card version The Hound Hunter is |
| 1117s | as known as with more of the the big |
| 1119s | beast Synergy going on and so again it |
| 1122s | kind of speaks to the factor of this |
| 1124s | expansion which has gone down well with |
| 1126s | a lot of people it's just the range of |
| 1128s | decks that at least feel somewhat viable |
| 1130s | for people to play right for for |
| 1132s | multiple classes to have multiple |
| 1134s | archetypes that are tournament viable to |
| 1137s | the point where someone the best players |
| 1139s | in the world are pinning their flag to |
| 1140s | that deck to be brought to a tournament |
| 1142s | I think is a good sign |
| 1143s | um for the the Integrity of an expansion |
| 1145s | overall |
| 1146s | yeah and I think uh even just not these |
| 1148s | decks but do as we talked more about |
| 1150s | Titans uh I think the Titans themselves |
| 1153s | are going to be very interesting to keep |
| 1155s | an eye on because I do think they've hit |
| 1157s | that sort of perfect line of being |
| 1160s | extremely powerful but not just game |
| 1162s | breaking right a lot of the Titans you |
| 1164s | play them you get Great Value obviously |
| 1166s | I am going to talk about the hunter one |
| 1168s | the hunter one light always feels good |
| 1170s | to play you can always make active |
| 1172s | choices with it and it can get you know |
| 1174s | value One Way or Another but it's not |
| 1176s | like you see your opponent player Titan |
| 1178s | oh I've lost the game it's all over you |
| 1180s | know there is ways to fight back and uh |
| 1183s | the game keeps very very air sort of |
| 1185s | even even though the Titans themselves |
| 1187s | are strong but for me I think this is |
| 1189s | one of the expansions that the flavor |
| 1191s | has really come through the Titans feel |
| 1193s | impactful uh pretty much across the |
| 1195s | board and even just some of the |
| 1197s | legendaries themselves and the newer |
| 1199s | cards it feels very thematic but also |
| 1201s | not thematic in the the sense that it |
| 1203s | can be too focused on that and less |
| 1206s | focused on like cards feeling good or |
| 1208s | powerful I think it hits that that line |
| 1209s | really well yeah and I think bringing |
| 1212s | that back around full circle to Gabby |
| 1214s | versus banter that we're going to be |
| 1215s | looking at I think no Titan embodies |
| 1217s | what you were talking about better than |
| 1219s | nogannon which is a card which some |
| 1221s | people think is not even good enough to |
| 1223s | be played in the build of rainbow Mage |
| 1224s | that people are running at the moment |
| 1226s | others disagree some people think it's |
| 1227s | core to the deck and you're stupid yeah |
| 1230s | banter is playing it in his version of |
| 1232s | the deck uh some people insist that it |
| 1234s | doesn't do anything because you play it |
| 1236s | Down For the First Time generally your |
| 1237s | first ability is enemy cards cost one |
| 1239s | more and then it just gets cleared |
| 1240s | anyway and it's ended up doing nothing |
| 1241s | for the entire game other people are |
| 1243s | just like no you play it they can't |
| 1245s | clear it because their cards cost too |
| 1246s | much mana and then you play the card |
| 1247s | reverberations in your decks which just |
| 1249s | immediately deletes your opponent the |
| 1251s | next turn |
| 1253s | um so there is certainly a lot of |
| 1254s | discrepancy in terms of power level but |
| 1255s | I think that's great the fact that we're |
| 1257s | still having these arguments about how |
| 1259s | good Titans are and whether they fit in |
| 1262s | xdec or wide deck is much rather where |
| 1264s | I'd like a cards from an expansion to |
| 1266s | land right as opposed to hey we printed |
| 1269s | this this brand new expansion defining |
| 1271s | mechanic and it's so good that it just |
| 1273s | goes in every single deck yeah see the |
| 1275s | entire expansion right like I think this |
| 1277s | is a really really nice place for the uh |
| 1279s | the game to have landed yeah and apart |
| 1281s | from the decks we've looked at and |
| 1283s | talked about you know at the moment is |
| 1285s | there anything else that is has sort of |
| 1287s | stuck out to you I know for example |
| 1288s | you've had a you've sort of favored |
| 1290s | Demon Hunter quite a lot over the past |
| 1292s | you know what's a year or so let's say |
| 1294s | of expansions like as Demon Hunter felt |
| 1297s | good you know it is Rogue looking good |
| 1298s | right now is there any of your like |
| 1300s | favorites that say aren't you know Mage |
| 1302s | and I'm not going to talk about Hunter |
| 1303s | because I know it won't be Hunter but uh |
| 1305s | that aren't Mage right now anything |
| 1306s | really stuck out for you I can't I mean |
| 1308s | I can't go much further in the broadcast |
| 1310s | without mentioning Shaman really can I |
| 1312s | urge nature Shaman has been a deck that |
| 1315s | I've enjoyed enormously uh throughout |
| 1317s | this expansion and put a little bit of |
| 1319s | work into taking the deck that pocket |
| 1322s | train was playing and then refining it a |
| 1323s | little bit |
| 1324s | um uh tweeted a list which pocket train |
| 1326s | then adopted and said yep yeah the |
| 1328s | changes sort of made make sense it's |
| 1330s | slightly better than what I was doing |
| 1332s | and now 10 players in this tournament |
| 1334s | have uh have brought that deck so you |
| 1336s | know I'm pretty happy with that I think |
| 1337s | I've done a good thing there well done |
| 1339s | if uh if subtle Shaman carries someone |
| 1341s | to the World Championships I will be |
| 1343s | expecting a personal thank you |
| 1345s | yeah and then maybe some copyright |
| 1347s | discussions if that becomes the official |
| 1349s | name of the deck as well yeah that'd be |
| 1350s | great let's get it in there but yeah I |
| 1352s | think uh the Shaman deck has been one of |
| 1354s | the most interesting because uh even I I |
| 1358s | personally don't play tons of Shame and |
| 1359s | obviously been playing it for you for |
| 1361s | this but I feel like it's a deck that |
| 1363s | everyone talks about the big crazy otk |
| 1367s | burn Factor but also the deck just rocks |
| 1371s | a good curve like you just play a lot of |
| 1373s | stuff and I think that is sort of the |
| 1376s | underlying power I think if the deck |
| 1377s | only had the capabilities to do one or |
| 1380s | the other it would be nowhere near as |
| 1382s | popular and as strong as it currently |
| 1384s | feels I completely agree with you Raven |
| 1388s | um for once your analysis of the |
| 1390s | situation is spot on I think |
| 1393s | the direction the pocket pushed it in in |
| 1395s | the direction that I then pushed it |
| 1396s | further in is just have as many cards in |
| 1398s | the deck as possible that are good to |
| 1399s | just play on curve and play for Tempo |
| 1401s | and just spend two mana on turn two |
| 1403s | three mana on turn three or whatever |
| 1405s | when I started talking about like this |
| 1407s | is the list this is what you should be |
| 1408s | playing I got a lot of pushback from |
| 1409s | people saying no no no it's the totem |
| 1412s | version like turn five you just play one |
| 1414s | Mana it summons four totems you swing |
| 1416s | your weapon it summons another totem |
| 1418s | you've just got five minions in play for |
| 1421s | one mana and you can play |
| 1422s | bioluminescence you just otk people for |
| 1424s | 40 damage on turn five and I'm like yeah |
| 1427s | okay but I also won that game but I won |
| 1430s | that game on turn eight it doesn't it |
| 1432s | doesn't matter that you did it on turn |
| 1433s | five the difference is that in the games |
| 1436s | where you don't draw the absolute nuts |
| 1438s | your opponent plays a minion and |
| 1440s | suddenly you're Druid and totally |
| 1442s | incapable of killing anything in the |
| 1444s | deck whatsoever |
| 1446s | um so I do think for a little while |
| 1447s | people got way too distracted by the |
| 1449s | ability to deal 60 days or whatever like |
| 1452s | it just doesn't matter like yes you'll |
| 1454s | save a little bit of time but if you |
| 1456s | kill if you're gonna kill your opponent |
| 1457s | on turn six with 60 damage there's a |
| 1459s | pretty good chance you're gonna kill |
| 1460s | them on turn eight with 40 damage right |
| 1462s | and how do those two wins enter the book |
| 1465s | exactly the same they both count as a |
| 1467s | win yeah life coach somewhere it's |
| 1470s | smiling |
| 1474s | and just speak it because you just |
| 1476s | mentioned the class we have a sprinkling |
| 1478s | of Druids in this tournament uh we are |
| 1481s | getting into game one now so very |
| 1482s | briefly so do you think Drew's gonna do |
| 1484s | well I actually spoke to pocket train |
| 1487s | about Druid a little bit and his opinion |
| 1489s | of drude is a lot higher than mine um |
| 1491s | normally we align pretty well on these |
| 1493s | things so it kind of took me by surprise |
| 1496s | um pocket said the Druid was really |
| 1497s | really close to just being like the deck |
| 1499s | for the tournament for him which |
| 1501s | surprised me because I don't have it on |
| 1502s | that level at all but we'll see how |
| 1505s | things develop uh apologies we do appear |
| 1507s | to have missed uh Mulligan and a couple |
| 1509s | of the early turns here doesn't seem |
| 1511s | like uh banter's been able to get the |
| 1512s | weapon down early though which I think |
| 1514s | is the biggest deal for him does not |
| 1516s | look like Gabby is currently rocking a |
| 1518s | spike lash siren in hand Island which is |
| 1519s | the biggest deal for him so in terms of |
| 1522s | missing an early game which he never |
| 1523s | really want to do it does look like |
| 1526s | large periods of this has been fairly |
| 1528s | inconsequential |
| 1530s | damn what do you think with this matchup |
| 1532s | specifically with a lot of uh more |
| 1534s | minion focused for Gabby or at least a |
| 1536s | board focused approach I'm not saying a |
| 1538s | Luke Banner face doesn't have impactful |
| 1540s | minions but how important are these |
| 1543s | Alibis gonna be now I I fear for myself |
| 1547s | when I speak about alibiotics it's a |
| 1549s | card that a few people are not best |
| 1551s | friends with uh but these sort of key to |
| 1554s | Banter strategy to surviving against |
| 1555s | these potentially big Naga board waves |
| 1558s | yeah I mean you would think so right |
| 1559s | it's one of the advantages that Sif Mage |
| 1561s | like the pure rainbow surf Mage does |
| 1563s | have because |
| 1565s | um they just naturally get to play Alibi |
| 1566s | in the deck so when two players are kind |
| 1568s | of racing to combo the other that can be |
| 1570s | a big factor but I think perhaps more a |
| 1573s | of a key card will be the Creations in |
| 1576s | banter's deck because what Naga Mage |
| 1579s | does which I think is generally |
| 1581s | underrated is it just makes big Boards |
| 1584s | out of nowhere and it can do that a |
| 1585s | couple of times very quickly if you draw |
| 1587s | a siren very quickly so being able to |
| 1589s | get a create up to four or five damage |
| 1591s | AOE to be able to take down a board like |
| 1593s | that when it comes down might just end |
| 1595s | up being key which is what you see here |
| 1597s | for example I think just zero Mana fell |
| 1599s | spell being taken right not because it's |
| 1601s | going to have a significant impact on |
| 1602s | the game but because it's cheap it's |
| 1604s | Mana efficient it can juice the spell |
| 1606s | schools and really start to power up |
| 1609s | some of the cards because if you are at |
| 1610s | a baseline unfamiliar with what this |
| 1612s | deck is it has various payoff cards |
| 1615s | Elemental inspiration safe wisdom of |
| 1617s | norgan which start as weak cards but |
| 1620s | suddenly become extremely strong cards |
| 1622s | the more different spell schools you |
| 1624s | play throughout the game and it's got |
| 1626s | the double whammy and something I feel |
| 1628s | like a lot of matchups boil down to is |
| 1630s | just don't let your opponent stick stuff |
| 1633s | right it's very similar in a lot of |
| 1636s | these matchups because I do feel like |
| 1637s | the game right now is roughly split into |
| 1640s | very very minion focused decks and very |
| 1644s | very spell focused decks and a lot of |
| 1646s | the time if you're the one that's |
| 1647s | focusing on the Spells you need to clear |
| 1649s | those boards because the likes of like |
| 1650s | like the macrogue even this deck uh like |
| 1653s | Hound Hunter potentially as well does |
| 1655s | kick out just a lot of potentially |
| 1657s | aggressive minions and you might have |
| 1659s | your fancy combos later on but if they |
| 1661s | aren't dealt with then it doesn't really |
| 1662s | if the minions aren't dealt with early |
| 1664s | it doesn't really matter what you can do |
| 1666s | in late game if that late game never |
| 1667s | happens but Gabby is gonna still just be |
| 1670s | powering on enough minion pressure to |
| 1673s | make abandon you know at least think |
| 1675s | about how to deal with these and not |
| 1677s | necessarily just free play cards like |
| 1679s | the norganim for example may not be the |
| 1681s | best choice now to just play into |
| 1682s | already seven power on board |
| 1689s | yeah it's a tough turn for sure because |
| 1692s | is it gonna kill with it |
| 1696s | possibly you could also just like play a |
| 1699s | secret you can still like the value of |
| 1700s | just playing it as low thread I think is |
| 1702s | underrated anyway right like just be |
| 1704s | vaguely disrupted for your opponent I do |
| 1706s | kind of like this as well it's going to |
| 1708s | lead into because I think you have to |
| 1710s | work backwards from next turn here you |
| 1712s | really want to just Jam Elemental |
| 1714s | inspiration on seven where possible |
| 1716s | right because you've Juiced it very |
| 1717s | heavily you can see in hand the wisdom |
| 1718s | of Morgan and uh costs zero therefore |
| 1721s | the elemental inspiration is going to be |
| 1722s | very very powerful so you would I would |
| 1724s | imagine really just love to jam this |
| 1725s | card on curve so I think being as |
| 1728s | annoying as possible just causing your |
| 1730s | opponent to have a slow turn uh via the |
| 1733s | method of throwing out an organ is does |
| 1735s | make the most sense here overall I think |
| 1738s | as well like something's gonna have to |
| 1740s | be done but here's a siren and |
| 1742s | everything's about to kick off |
| 1746s | sea floor Gateway is a crucial card in |
| 1748s | both versions of these decks um the |
| 1750s | amalgams that you play in your deck are |
| 1752s | mechs for example in Gabby's version he |
| 1754s | does have the Creations as well which |
| 1755s | are mechs and in mcmahanta's version of |
| 1757s | the deck if you discover that through |
| 1759s | any method it is just a free tutor for |
| 1761s | your creation your big AOE card so it's |
| 1763s | a very underrated card do not forget |
| 1765s | that you have mechs in your deck when |
| 1767s | you discover that card it's very easy to |
| 1769s | do |
| 1769s | and it Rhymes so it's easy to remember |
| 1771s | as well |
| 1777s | maybe The Alibi just going down not |
| 1779s | really for the protection but more just |
| 1780s | to keep the chain going |
| 1782s | and this now is the moment where you can |
| 1784s | spot the Naga Mage player anyone can do |
| 1787s | this up until this point when the Rope |
| 1789s | appears that's when you separate the |
| 1791s | real Naga Mage players from the casuals |
| 1794s | I'm very out of the Casual side of this |
| 1797s | I panic when the Rope appears when I'm |
| 1799s | playing no damage I panic before the |
| 1801s | Rope appears because I still don't know |
| 1804s | what to do |
| 1806s | hey though the Frozen touch being in |
| 1808s | hand although a little bit of expensive |
| 1810s | writer this second uh is a good start as |
| 1812s | well because that is a card that is for |
| 1814s | a long time now sort of become one of |
| 1816s | the go-to damage spells for a lot of |
| 1818s | different Mages where it's just so much |
| 1821s | damage over time as long as you can |
| 1822s | weave it in so Gabby does have that to |
| 1824s | be able to push but has to uh sustain |
| 1827s | this and this Alibi actually will help |
| 1829s | out versus these win Furies to stop any |
| 1831s | true Shenanigans happen in this term |
| 1833s | will interesting sequencing from banter |
| 1836s | uh choosing to test the counter spell |
| 1838s | with the zero Mana draw two in hand uh |
| 1841s | ends up losing them really valuing these |
| 1843s | Alibis first and foremost which yep |
| 1844s | definitely agree with that valuing the |
| 1846s | Alibis uh first and foremost but also |
| 1849s | valuing presumably infinitized and |
| 1851s | volume up there are other factors there |
| 1853s | you could plan your turnout saying okay |
| 1855s | well if I play Zero Mana draw two and |
| 1858s | it's not counterspell I still get to do |
| 1860s | everything I want to do this term |
| 1862s | because I've only spent zero Mana at the |
| 1863s | start of the turn right whereas |
| 1864s | potentially if you try waste one of the |
| 1866s | other cards instead and it goes off that |
| 1868s | might end up ruining your turn it's also |
| 1871s | pretty interesting as well as even |
| 1872s | looking at the drown there honestly just |
| 1874s | to get rid of the siren and make these |
| 1876s | trades a little bit cleaner but one |
| 1878s | thing I found with like the this version |
| 1879s | of the Mage is even if you I'll say |
| 1882s | throw away some cards whether it to |
| 1884s | counter spell or not like you can |
| 1887s | generate so much stuff or Draw so much |
| 1890s | stuff that even if you just throw some |
| 1893s | cards out to the void you're still going |
| 1895s | to be a position like this where benefit |
| 1896s | still has pretty much a full hand to |
| 1899s | mess around with right and I think |
| 1901s | honestly the concerns of Gabby's sirens |
| 1904s | on the other side is somewhat minimal to |
| 1907s | Banter at this point because he played |
| 1909s | the finale volume up and he hit solid |
| 1911s | Alibi so he knows he now has three more |
| 1913s | solid Alibis from this point he knows |
| 1915s | the solid Alibi that Gabby played |
| 1917s | previously is not something that Gabby's |
| 1919s | gonna have an easy time playing more of |
| 1921s | because this isn't a natural solid Alibi |
| 1922s | deck that the air banter is playing |
| 1924s | against so in terms of just racing to |
| 1927s | the otk I think banter will feel like he |
| 1929s | has he has enough ice block effects to |
| 1932s | get him over your line no matter what |
| 1934s | Gabby does on the other side with the |
| 1935s | Sirens |
| 1936s | yeah because the Alibis have come early |
| 1938s | enough right like make banter's already |
| 1940s | over 30 health so it's not like oh well |
| 1943s | hang on it's Gabby sticks seven minions |
| 1945s | and you know over the course of a few |
| 1948s | Alibis it's still pushing some level of |
| 1950s | damage but with over 30 it's very very |
| 1953s | safe for the for the foreseeable future |
| 1956s | now don't get me wrong if you had |
| 1958s | infinite time and you start the term |
| 1960s | with a spite last siren on the board and |
| 1962s | you then Reverb that Spike Lush siren |
| 1964s | and you have two infused Frozen touches |
| 1967s | and a savara in your hand you might |
| 1970s | actually be able to otk your opponent |
| 1972s | through a solid Alibi at that point it |
| 1974s | might be possible uh but that would be |
| 1977s | an incredibly Niche scenario |
| 1982s | I'm just looking at this as well there |
| 1984s | was the solar eclipse picked up for |
| 1985s | mcmaniface earlier on instead of the |
| 1987s | drown |
| 1988s | um what's the is there any specific |
| 1991s | thing that he's looking for out of this |
| 1993s | solar I honestly I think the most |
| 1996s | specific thing about it that made it get |
| 1999s | chosen is it cost two instead of four |
| 2000s | right and then it just it juices see if |
| 2004s | it juices uh create any Creations that |
| 2006s | are remaining Etc it's just easier to |
| 2007s | throw out there on any given turn at |
| 2009s | some point right which I think is |
| 2010s | probably the biggest motivating factor |
| 2013s | we're gonna see Reverb on the A8 |
| 2020s | and another one |
| 2026s | now surely it's all it's fire sale well |
| 2030s | Moulton roon is looking pretty lethal in |
| 2032s | the near future two Mana molten rooms |
| 2034s | very spicy |
| 2039s | because next turn you can just play an |
| 2040s | alibi you can forge the Rune and then at |
| 2042s | that point you are one one Mana damage |
| 2044s | spell from your deck away from just |
| 2046s | killing your opponent so |
| 2051s | and there's not too much that Gabby can |
| 2055s | really do about this either again |
| 2057s | there's tons of value for both players |
| 2059s | but when one has kind of ice blocks turn |
| 2063s | after turn after turn it gets a little |
| 2065s | bit difficult Shadow step picked up |
| 2066s | there for Gabby |
| 2068s | oh imagine remember I was talking about |
| 2070s | like otks with uh two sirens and a |
| 2073s | savara and a bunch of Frozen touches you |
| 2075s | then step the savara again and get the |
| 2077s | Frozen touches back in there oh let's go |
| 2082s | step in the Zola what if game one Gabby |
| 2085s | does just know TK through a solid Alibi |
| 2088s | yeah |
| 2091s | more like liquid alibi |
| 2094s | like gaseous |
| 2105s | God he's going for it |
| 2107s | and it's done all one close okay yeah |
| 2113s | can be another Inspirations here for |
| 2116s | banterface but again it's a |
| 2119s | without something to support it it's |
| 2121s | like an odd card to play just into a |
| 2123s | full Board of minions right so like I |
| 2126s | guess it's still fine like this in Alibi |
| 2128s | draw a card but it's like even going way |
| 2131s | back to the actual ice block days if you |
| 2135s | are doing these ice block style plays |
| 2137s | but not really progressing the game plan |
| 2139s | then it feels like you're just sort of |
| 2141s | skipping a turn for both players to an |
| 2143s | extent right and that's even less that |
| 2145s | you know or I guess more the case with |
| 2147s | The Alibi not actually blocking the |
| 2148s | damage so right a tricky one like is is |
| 2152s | this good enough maybe it has to be good |
| 2154s | enough |
| 2154s | from it Banner face but it doesn't feel |
| 2156s | great to just play loads of minions |
| 2159s | maybe there's rush but then solid Alibi |
| 2162s | and pass go again and the outcome is |
| 2163s | drawing one card |
| 2166s | okay let's go for it yep this does |
| 2169s | involve not forging the molten Rune |
| 2172s | which is the primary concern I would |
| 2174s | imagine because you know obviously you |
| 2176s | asked a question about the solar eclipse |
| 2178s | before the molten Rune appeared |
| 2179s | obviously |
| 2180s | oh yeah costing too alongside the Sith |
| 2184s | is going to be incredibly powerful you |
| 2185s | could just set up for that as a |
| 2187s | potential win next turn if you wanted to |
| 2190s | go for but uh banter choosing to be as |
| 2192s | annoying as possible occupy the board as |
| 2194s | well |
| 2205s | there's that emulation actually in a |
| 2207s | gabby town that I did not notice till |
| 2209s | now because as you can already imagine |
| 2211s | for viewers at home it's pretty tricky |
| 2213s | to keep keep track of all of the cards |
| 2216s | in this kind of mirror-ish match when uh |
| 2218s | there's so many generations going on |
| 2221s | they're definitely going to help soften |
| 2223s | up these Elementals |
| 2234s | I think the interesting thing here as |
| 2236s | well because yeah I'm just thinking |
| 2238s | about what this matchup looks like on |
| 2240s | average and |
| 2242s | if my banner face did not hit that many |
| 2245s | Alibis right like you can see the danger |
| 2248s | that Gabby could present in this matchup |
| 2251s | yeah yeah for sure |
| 2253s | um again I'm not sure how many resources |
| 2255s | got expended um through you know turns |
| 2257s | one to three because we did |
| 2258s | unfortunately miss that but you could |
| 2260s | also argue like banter is well within |
| 2263s | his rights to just have an Arcane bolt |
| 2264s | or a flame Geezer in his hand now right |
| 2266s | and then the game would just kind of be |
| 2267s | over in the other direction so this is |
| 2270s | kind of a low roll in terms of burst |
| 2271s | damage from his position as well |
| 2276s | foreign |
| 2283s | Mill Gabby's last card here |
| 2287s | swap it full of colossal |
| 2299s | Banton knots oh yes explosive runes just |
| 2303s | as I expected |
| 2307s | thing about Banner now is just going |
| 2309s | through the hand as you have to do with |
| 2311s | a deck like this and be like right if I |
| 2313s | play this this turn what does my purse |
| 2316s | look like next turn okay if that's not |
| 2317s | gonna work what's my birth look like the |
| 2319s | turn after and so on so on until we can |
| 2321s | make it happen obviously Gabby only on |
| 2323s | 25 and 25 is a low number when we talk |
| 2326s | about decks like uh this Mage when we |
| 2328s | talk about Shaman as well the really |
| 2330s | high burst decks the 25 is by no means |
| 2333s | safe |
| 2339s | at this point |
| 2341s | yeah does go with the last Alibi does |
| 2344s | Forge the rune |
| 2346s | don't we |
| 2349s | I believe it will be on seven spell |
| 2353s | damage if I've kept track okay my guess |
| 2355s | was gonna be six but there we go |
| 2358s | I'll Trust you oh sorry once the solar |
| 2361s | eclipse is played it'll be on seven |
| 2363s | spell damage I believe |
| 2367s | Gabby's doing his best to get through |
| 2369s | the uh or as much damage through the |
| 2371s | artifi as possible but I think until |
| 2373s | these run out and because the board |
| 2374s | isn't it hasn't had the ability right to |
| 2377s | just push seven with a full board or so |
| 2379s | you know I pushed like at least some |
| 2381s | level of damage |
| 2382s | my benefits has got to be feeling at |
| 2384s | least fairly confident here yeah I think |
| 2386s | at this point Gabby's just fishing for |
| 2388s | another generated solid Alibi so that he |
| 2390s | can potentially at her next turn against |
| 2392s | banter without an alibi up |
| 2394s | um which I think the way banterface has |
| 2396s | played this so the elemental inspiration |
| 2399s | turn on the previous turn right I think |
| 2400s | what that was about is to try and bait |
| 2402s | any solid Alibi out of his opponent's |
| 2404s | hand on a turn that didn't really matter |
| 2406s | right like that was essentially just a |
| 2408s | free turn |
| 2412s | Cold Case picked up |
| 2420s | so I'm guessing by Madonna's reaction |
| 2424s | what's going on am I stupid |
| 2427s | doesn't solar eclipse molten Rune just |
| 2429s | win the game here as am I not |
| 2431s | understanding how that interaction works |
| 2432s | I |
| 2434s | I well the way we benefits looked was |
| 2436s | that |
| 2439s | they look like their way to draw |
| 2440s | something specific and weft with the |
| 2442s | cold case which show if is after burn |
| 2444s | specifically but I was with you for a |
| 2447s | minute where I didn't think burn was |
| 2448s | needed but now I feel like I'm wrong |
| 2453s | interesting |
| 2461s | copies just |
| 2464s | smoking the shake of the head |
| 2467s | that's what kicking this match up with |
| 2468s | this air |
| 2469s | crazy major is going to do to you |
| 2480s | it says plus seven |
| 2489s | okay |
| 2491s | oh is it because the second one's random |
| 2493s | is the second one random though I'm not |
| 2495s | sure it is well I I don't |
| 2498s | I I didn't think so but that's the only |
| 2500s | thing I can think that yeah I I didn't |
| 2503s | think it was random but that was the |
| 2505s | only thing I could think of that would |
| 2506s | make mcmaniface pause right because oh |
| 2508s | there's two minions there's no spare |
| 2511s | Banner to kill those minions with is |
| 2513s | there a world where the first one |
| 2515s | obviously hits face whatever and then |
| 2516s | the second one can just hit the minion |
| 2518s | and and just ruin it but I'm not 100 |
| 2520s | sure because I've never been in that |
| 2522s | position if I'm going to be completely |
| 2523s | honest but it was the only thing I could |
| 2525s | think of that Banner face paused on |
| 2527s | because that as you were building up to |
| 2529s | for a few turns the numbers weren't the |
| 2531s | difficult bit right just adding that |
| 2533s | number that many times equal lethal yes |
| 2536s | so that was the only thing I could think |
| 2537s | of but either way but Banner face is |
| 2539s | going to take the lead in this matchup |
| 2541s | and those Alibis really causing Gabby |
| 2544s | trouble and uh again we did miss the |
| 2546s | first few turns so we do apologize but |
| 2548s | it didn't look like Gabby was off to a |
| 2550s | very rapid start which uh the deck is |
| 2552s | capable of the Naga Mage to get off to a |
| 2554s | bit of a quicker start doesn't it yeah |
| 2556s | the siren turn came a little bit like I |
| 2558s | think if you siren on four with the coin |
| 2560s | or on five like if you're able to go |
| 2562s | siren one Mana Naga like either naggling |
| 2565s | or slitherspoon and then able to put |
| 2566s | Posh uh pop off from there to the point |
| 2568s | where you're at least making like a 506 |
| 2569s | minion board |
| 2571s | um because you've got a five Health |
| 2572s | siren |
| 2579s | been that deals five AOE is kind of |
| 2582s | tricky at that point and making a |
| 2584s | straight up clear on the other side |
| 2585s | unlikely so I'd imagine that becomes a |
| 2587s | kind of a tough game for the Mage to win |
| 2589s | at that point because they have to start |
| 2591s | blowing Alibis pretty early |
| 2594s | um but yeah interesting late game to say |
| 2596s | the least I don't know whether you know |
| 2597s | we got a bit lost where the banter got a |
| 2599s | little bit lost but to me it started to |
| 2600s | make sense |
| 2602s | um with that extra turn of the elemental |
| 2603s | inspiration that came down alongside The |
| 2605s | Alibi yeah that makes sense because you |
| 2607s | can kind of buy a free turn to say to |
| 2609s | Gabby okay if you've generated a second |
| 2611s | Alibi from somewhere you're gonna have |
| 2613s | to play it now because you don't know |
| 2615s | that I don't have lethal next term right |
| 2617s | like oh yeah you fully have to respect |
| 2619s | my ability to lethal you the next turn |
| 2621s | so I'm getting an alibi out of your hand |
| 2623s | this turn and then I can forge the Rune |
| 2625s | and then with The Alibi gone I can |
| 2627s | potentially try and kill you the turn |
| 2628s | afterwards but yeah the the final turn |
| 2631s | did not perhaps play out with the uh the |
| 2634s | smooth confidence that I was expecting |
| 2635s | it to so who knows yeah and I think in |
| 2637s | this meta especially because there are a |
| 2639s | few Decks that play like this right that |
| 2640s | have uh bursty abilities not necessarily |
| 2643s | huge otks but you know 10 15 damage out |
| 2646s | of nowhere there are Decks that exist |
| 2648s | that have that right and I think |
| 2650s | once you I'm going to make up an average |
| 2653s | here but after turn six |
| 2655s | you do have to sit there and start |
| 2657s | thinking |
| 2658s | my opponent Could Just Kill Me next turn |
| 2660s | so what can I do to stop that or at |
| 2662s | least do your best to say well if they |
| 2664s | don't come in next turn obviously that |
| 2665s | chance increases by you know turn by |
| 2667s | turn so then what kind of pressure can |
| 2669s | you put on what can you do to stop them |
| 2670s | doing it against some of these matchups |
| 2673s | so uh yeah we will be seeing more Mage |
| 2675s | as we go out through over the course of |
| 2676s | this weekend so there'll be plenty more |
| 2678s | where that came from No Doubt but of |
| 2680s | course that was just game one and we |
| 2682s | know Conquest is not over till it's over |
| 2684s | so Gabby will at some point have to play |
| 2687s | that Mage once again if he wants to get |
| 2689s | the victory but overall what do we have |
| 2691s | left here because I believe it's |
| 2693s | mcvanta's uh Rogue is banned out so that |
| 2697s | means there is the Hunter and the shaman |
| 2700s | left over and uh before we get too much |
| 2702s | into any specific matchups because we |
| 2704s | don't know what they're going to queue |
| 2705s | yet |
| 2706s | um did you have any inkling of where |
| 2708s | bands I know this is a very generalized |
| 2710s | question but was there anything too big |
| 2712s | like to something you would expect to be |
| 2714s | banned the most this this weekend and I |
| 2717s | don't think there's like a meta Terror |
| 2718s | it absolutely has to be banned under all |
| 2720s | circumstances no I think I think it's a |
| 2723s | strategy ban for this tournament like I |
| 2725s | think I think some people will have |
| 2727s | Druid and I think other people in the |
| 2728s | tournament are trying to counter Druid |
| 2730s | for example |
| 2731s | um so in that sort of situation you |
| 2733s | might be looking at a band that creates |
| 2734s | your best chance for your Druid to pick |
| 2736s | up a win throughout the tournament |
| 2737s | throughout that series at some point |
| 2739s | right because that's the Crux of that |
| 2741s | individual series I think it's much more |
| 2743s | of a kind of a flex band situation |
| 2745s | players will be coming in with the idea |
| 2747s | of like okay if I see nature Shaman I'm |
| 2750s | gonna ban nature Shaman if I see aggro |
| 2752s | Hunter I'm gonna ban aggro Hunter but |
| 2754s | they will have like a a tier list right |
| 2756s | there's no hard and fast this debt goes |
| 2759s | 100 of the time there will I think |
| 2761s | players will have to react more to a |
| 2763s | lineup holistically and pick a ban on |
| 2765s | the fly in this matter yeah and so for |
| 2767s | the noises I just made but whilst I was |
| 2770s | 100 listening to what you were saying |
| 2771s | I'm also watching this Hunter draw |
| 2773s | because it's popping off although the |
| 2774s | secret was not great just a 1-5 out of |
| 2777s | it there are definitely there cards to |
| 2779s | get out of that this hand overall is |
| 2782s | looking quite powerful |
| 2785s | hey it's a one five with charge though |
| 2786s | and it survives explosive trap true the |
| 2789s | nuts |
| 2793s | hello this is a great setup this is |
| 2795s | exactly what uh you want uh with this |
| 2797s | deck this is pretty much my favorite |
| 2799s | deck of the expansion so far I would |
| 2801s | have thought and it's it gives you so |
| 2803s | many Flex options especially in this |
| 2805s | matchup it's one where you aren't |
| 2807s | completely lost because there are AOE |
| 2809s | options star power being one of them uh |
| 2812s | which are really good for clearing up |
| 2813s | those boards full of minions so we'll |
| 2815s | see how it benefits uh navigates this |
| 2818s | but I imagine pretty soon oh that's |
| 2820s | interesting |
| 2822s | okay going for the two three on curve I |
| 2824s | would have expected to see the uh the |
| 2826s | the trinket jackets come out to just |
| 2827s | start uh drawing those cards |
| 2832s | yeah you also have the potential option |
| 2833s | to just try and really disrupt your |
| 2836s | opponents uh four with coin turn right |
| 2838s | which is the earliest time a spike lash |
| 2840s | siren can go off just by going with um |
| 2842s | Forge traps and just play two more traps |
| 2844s | on that turn to really just shut |
| 2846s | everything down that your opponent can |
| 2847s | do |
| 2848s | I was even thinking that I I was even |
| 2851s | wondering is was this an answer or a |
| 2853s | setup because star power was drawn was |
| 2856s | this a well if Gabby goes by coin then |
| 2860s | there's the the beefed up star power |
| 2862s | because the one spell damage on star |
| 2863s | power is actually very sick it's so big |
| 2865s | yeah yes it is like just clear the board |
| 2868s | basically it doesn't matter what's on |
| 2870s | the board it's two rights it got buffed |
| 2871s | in deck on the previous turn as well and |
| 2873s | then ah yes sorry of course yes yes |
| 2876s | yeah so maybe that's why because |
| 2878s | normally I'm very greedy with the two |
| 2880s | threes right to just buff as many cards |
| 2882s | in hand as possible but it did ensure |
| 2884s | that no matter what Gabby did mcbander |
| 2887s | could almost certainly just stop out the |
| 2889s | board away |
| 2894s | look at the aggression |
| 2901s | spell |
| 2902s | Nago |
| 2906s | haven't kept active what's in the savara |
| 2908s | explosive trap vast wisdom and something |
| 2911s | uh I'll Discover it magic from this turn |
| 2913s | okay I thought he played another spell |
| 2914s | before |
| 2915s | didn't you play alibi |
| 2920s | apparently not |
| 2922s | I must did something before okay yeah |
| 2925s | the the discovery of magic must have |
| 2927s | come before The Alibi oh right okay |
| 2929s | there was an alibi right I know we saw a |
| 2931s | lot of Alibi's last game yeah is this |
| 2934s | girl what's the weekend gonna turn into |
| 2936s | it's like all I see is alabo |
| 2939s | wherever I go I see that card |
| 2943s | I've seen Gabby put out a ton of |
| 2945s | pressure but this is the problem right |
| 2947s | one Gabby's just pretty much dead anyway |
| 2950s | so now does have to get that alibi which |
| 2952s | was very useful but also just this star |
| 2954s | power just kind of laughs at this board |
| 2957s | yeah did have the emergency button of |
| 2960s | the volcano mancy in hand it's a three |
| 2962s | Mana volcano mancy but you know no big |
| 2964s | deal right because pretty much infinite |
| 2966s | manner the way that term was going right |
| 2968s | but you don't generally want to play |
| 2971s | your entire siren turn and then panic at |
| 2974s | the end of it and go damn I haven't |
| 2975s | managed to clear the board I guess I'll |
| 2976s | play this volcano Nancy like that's not |
| 2978s | really a good thing that you want to end |
| 2980s | up fingers crossed yeah yeah exactly |
| 2985s | see now I think this is the difference |
| 2988s | between my benefits and myself |
| 2990s | it's probably working out you know |
| 2991s | optimal trades for star power I would |
| 2994s | have just ripped it yeah he's just |
| 2996s | counting like what's the worst case |
| 2999s | scenario right like if the seven hits |
| 3001s | the four one and then the six hits the |
| 3003s | one one and blow like what's the worst |
| 3005s | case scenario if I just literally rip it |
| 3007s | right now right the reason why I just |
| 3009s | rip it is because you've got one two |
| 3011s | three and four attack minions right so |
| 3014s | like |
| 3015s | I feel like you could almost always make |
| 3016s | the trades up after the fact but I think |
| 3018s | my benefits is just making sure |
| 3020s | everything's clean |
| 3022s | ah I'm not gonna go for them instead |
| 3024s | gonna go for the ball |
| 3037s | was this really |
| 3039s | better |
| 3047s | I feel like the board just got a lot |
| 3050s | weaker |
| 3051s | it did to save a star power maybe this |
| 3053s | is just okay I'll do it this turn and |
| 3055s | then if it goes again |
| 3057s | star powered that turn right it's where |
| 3060s | matchup knowledge really comes into it |
| 3061s | and I will confess I have not played a |
| 3063s | great deal of Argus if Mage this season |
| 3066s | yeah that's my issue I'll tell you about |
| 3068s | a lot of match-ups with this Hunter but |
| 3070s | not this one |
| 3072s | but I imagine you know seeing The Alibi |
| 3074s | come down on the other side you know if |
| 3077s | there was no alibi come down right then |
| 3079s | suddenly stop how the whole board go |
| 3080s | face with everything make sense right |
| 3082s | because it you don't waste a bunch of |
| 3084s | damage trading into minions because The |
| 3085s | Alibi was there maybe banter's just |
| 3087s | setting the stall out for a longer game |
| 3089s | and saying okay star power double spell |
| 3091s | damage buffed star power is just |
| 3093s | incredibly good at clearing the board if |
| 3095s | it comes down in the future I think also |
| 3097s | if you told Banta that his next draw was |
| 3099s | speaker stomper he would have protected |
| 3101s | that giant board that he had on the |
| 3103s | previous one uh so he could just protect |
| 3105s | it further with speaker stomper on this |
| 3107s | turn but you know can't necessarily play |
| 3109s | to uh to the one out off the Topia |
| 3111s | though and a bit of tech I do like I |
| 3113s | believe it's just a one-off in the |
| 3114s | Banner's list and um it's a card that is |
| 3116s | one of those you can just drop it in to |
| 3118s | work wherever you want basically yeah I |
| 3121s | got the student |
| 3123s | okay that's just funny |
| 3127s | what is that now is it seven five |
| 3132s | not a clue |
| 3135s | yeah I think it's a seven five |
| 3140s | how does it work he says is he Googles |
| 3142s | it dies in there it goes into the deck |
| 3144s | shuffle a copy of this permanent plus |
| 3147s | three plus three oh it's three so it |
| 3149s | would be a seven six after dying yes |
| 3151s | yeah yeah |
| 3159s | press his hair about okay that's done |
| 3161s | now yeah this happens yeah this is one |
| 3165s | of those weird ones where he hasn't |
| 3166s | drawn a lot of the card draw so |
| 3169s | um he's not sitting on a lot of this |
| 3172s | burn there's the Ricochet shot there's |
| 3174s | the Arcane shot but a lot of times this |
| 3176s | deep into a game you normally rock in a |
| 3178s | fair few burn spells it could maybe have |
| 3179s | even just won also no weapons |
| 3182s | or the uh all the uh starstrong bow |
| 3184s | which is really unfortunate because |
| 3186s | again these weapons like carry this deck |
| 3189s | they put out so much damage and now band |
| 3191s | is a little bit here a little bit |
| 3192s | worried yeah |
| 3194s | in the days of law the legend of Gabby |
| 3199s | would have killed him yeah |
| 3201s | well |
| 3203s | here we go it's time to see if the |
| 3205s | Legends were true and there's not a |
| 3207s | relic DH in sight yeah it's so rough |
| 3210s | seeing this provider's point of view |
| 3212s | where like the managers keeps going and |
| 3215s | you're like when's it gonna end there's |
| 3217s | a Sith yeah oh I'm so much matter still |
| 3225s | what's that sea floor okay yeah that |
| 3228s | draws a one-managa now oh and worst |
| 3230s | cases it drew creation yeah yeah oh |
| 3234s | we're not thinking about clearing Raven |
| 3235s | we're we're otk I said worst case yeah |
| 3237s | someone's got to think about the worst |
| 3239s | case scenario okay won't somebody think |
| 3242s | of the minion it's like um it's like |
| 3245s | that zombie film |
| 3247s | that that person |
| 3249s | thank you thank you World War Z that's |
| 3252s | it okay because that person whose job it |
| 3254s | was to think of well what if this crazy |
| 3256s | thing happens I need to be able to fix |
| 3258s | it |
| 3259s | I'm gonna say dead |
| 3261s | Gabby's animations are significantly |
| 3264s | ahead of mine but yeah yeah about and |
| 3266s | now just the light show just the light |
| 3267s | show that's come out of hand recently |
| 3269s | we'll be able to do it there you go |
| 3270s | Gabby always kills them there is never |
| 3273s | any doubt Gabby always kills them |
| 3277s | and this is the thing right and it's |
| 3279s | something I think Lorinda mentioned |
| 3281s | yesterday when we were talking about the |
| 3283s | decks the players have brought and |
| 3284s | everything and you know just lineups and |
| 3286s | what the meta is like and I think |
| 3288s | Loretta said like I can't wait but you |
| 3290s | know one of the players who brought Naga |
| 3292s | Mage to just destroy the you know win |
| 3294s | the tournament and then the following |
| 3296s | week on ladder when may humans are |
| 3298s | trying to play Naga Mage and you know |
| 3301s | those wins will not happen because you |
| 3304s | have to be extremely confident you have |
| 3306s | to the decisions aren't even thought |
| 3308s | about I feel like it's just straight |
| 3310s | pattern recognition but that's probably |
| 3312s | the best phrase I can put to it if like |
| 3314s | this card appears it's either yes or no |
| 3316s | that decision's already made next and |
| 3318s | then all those decisions are almost like |
| 3320s | just autopilot pattern recognition and |
| 3322s | then Gabby just won that game which I |
| 3323s | think not a lot of people would have |
| 3325s | thought possible but we knew yeah I |
| 3327s | think playing otk's at that higher speed |
| 3330s | D6 warlock something that Gabby was |
| 3332s | fantastic at doing Naga Mage when you |
| 3334s | start with so many cards left in your |
| 3336s | deck um I've kind of relate this one by |
| 3338s | head is like being really really good at |
| 3340s | a rhythm game like if you're incredibly |
| 3341s | good at Guitar Hero right and there's |
| 3343s | just a million notes flooding down the |
| 3345s | fretboard towards you and you're just |
| 3347s | like hammering away full combo and the |
| 3348s | whole guitar solo absolutely no problem |
| 3350s | right and then people are looking at you |
| 3352s | going how are you reacting to all of |
| 3354s | that like I'm not it's just like it's |
| 3356s | just pattern recognition in my head yeah |
| 3358s | right like I've done it a million times |
| 3359s | before I sort of see a vague shape of |
| 3361s | notes in front coming in front of me and |
| 3363s | I just know what it is I've been here |
| 3364s | before |
| 3366s | um it's it's that kind of thing of just |
| 3367s | you do something enough times it just |
| 3369s | becomes ingrained in muscle memory but |
| 3370s | what is very very impactful are the |
| 3374s | early game decisions like Gabby's early |
| 3376s | discover choices |
| 3378s | um rip to vast wisdom early for a |
| 3381s | swapped volcano mancy and solid Alibi |
| 3383s | both of those cards coming in incredibly |
| 3385s | clutch then in sequential turns just |
| 3387s | dropping the solid Alibi essentially |
| 3390s | just focusing as a Time Warp just to |
| 3392s | Skip One turn and then the following |
| 3393s | turn that volcano Nancy being able to |
| 3395s | clear the board that was left over from |
| 3397s | banter on the following turns and |
| 3399s | essentially what Gabby's done there is |
| 3400s | worked backwards from the like okay on |
| 3403s | seven I can play siren and Reverb and |
| 3405s | then then we go and then then the world |
| 3407s | is my oyster from that point right |
| 3410s | um so I just need to map out my turns to |
| 3412s | get me to that point and discover |
| 3413s | choices that get me to that point and he |
| 3415s | did that very very well indeed |
| 3418s | now I'm going to go into game number |
| 3420s | three all even on this first series of |
| 3422s | the day and of the weekend of course I |
| 3424s | actually drew it on the top there for |
| 3425s | Gabby and my benefits jumping over to |
| 3427s | the shame and so this is a bit of a |
| 3430s | tricky one I I feel because I feel like |
| 3432s | most of the time Shaman has AOE or good |
| 3435s | enough answers unless the Druid really |
| 3438s | pops off you know like has that dream |
| 3441s | setup of just everything going the |
| 3443s | double choose ones going off and |
| 3444s | creating a mega board but Sheamus |
| 3446s | definitely got the ability to clear |
| 3448s | waves of Druid tokens which is again |
| 3450s | what Druid it's like a it's like a wave |
| 3453s | right always comes back in this style of |
| 3457s | Druid so we'll see if Gabby's got any |
| 3459s | tricks up his sleeve |
| 3461s | it's like a wave but unfortunately said |
| 3463s | wave is primordial and full of piranhas |
| 3466s | um I I like this match up a lot from the |
| 3469s | shaman side because you kind of have |
| 3471s | triple win condition in this matchup |
| 3473s | which feels great like some games you |
| 3475s | just play a novice zapper on one and |
| 3477s | then you play a Flo Rida on two and then |
| 3479s | that discovers feral spirits and you |
| 3480s | play feral spirits on three and those |
| 3483s | minions just hit the Druid in the face |
| 3484s | every turn until the end of the game and |
| 3485s | they die yeah and your opponent's |
| 3486s | playing like one ones and two twos right |
| 3488s | yeah like that that can happen I mean |
| 3490s | sometimes they have this hand and |
| 3491s | they're playing nothing right like |
| 3492s | there's also sometimes they are also |
| 3494s | just a druid yeah like let's not forget |
| 3496s | yes this car this deck plays some early |
| 3498s | game tokens but not a lot not enough to |
| 3501s | consistently be able to swarm the board |
| 3504s | um and then secondary obviously you have |
| 3505s | what people understand to be the primary |
| 3507s | win condition of the deck which is just |
| 3509s | otk's on a very early turn that's very |
| 3510s | possible as well thirdly you can kind of |
| 3513s | win the game sometimes by just letting |
| 3515s | them do their thing right like they just |
| 3518s | make their Board of six eights or |
| 3520s | whatever and you go |
| 3526s | they're not necessarily able to reload |
| 3529s | from that point if they haven't had a |
| 3530s | very resource heavy draw |
| 3532s | um so I'm a big fan of this matchup from |
| 3534s | from the shaman side even though I |
| 3535s | believe the stats say that it's a little |
| 3537s | bit closer than I'm making out and again |
| 3539s | I will caveat other very good players |
| 3542s | have much higher opinions of Druid in |
| 3544s | this meta than I do so there you go |
| 3555s | yeah |
| 3558s | tutu we did it |
| 3561s | Duff |
| 3563s | yeah there is some Topia available for |
| 3565s | Gabby so if you can get there it will |
| 3567s | help out with those sort of maybe even |
| 3569s | there's enough waves that get through |
| 3571s | but the problem is just the health right |
| 3573s | like it's like yes you let's say drew |
| 3575s | can make infinite waves of pressure so |
| 3578s | yeah at some point my band is probably |
| 3580s | just gonna blow you up so that's gonna |
| 3582s | be the big problem here I do just like |
| 3583s | Pharaoh's Spirit on curve though |
| 3585s | I'm a big fan of just playing stuff |
| 3591s | uh just talking about banter's list uh |
| 3593s | banter is not going with pure subtle |
| 3596s | Shaman uh he has gone down to a single |
| 3598s | copy of overdraft and is playing two |
| 3600s | copies of carving chisel instead uh |
| 3603s | carving chisel not a card that I find to |
| 3605s | be particularly effective again it's one |
| 3607s | of those cards where if you do if you |
| 3609s | draw it on two and then you get to play |
| 3611s | flash of lightning on five for example |
| 3614s | when you already have lightning reflexes |
| 3615s | in your hand then you can otk people on |
| 3617s | six with that kind of draw but that's |
| 3619s | not to me personally something that I |
| 3621s | value is hugely important with the deck |
| 3624s | um but banter and gamer RBG who have |
| 3626s | been known to prep together in the past |
| 3627s | so may have done so again for this |
| 3629s | tournament are playing that version |
| 3630s | where they've snuck in a second chisel |
| 3632s | at the expense of second overdraft which |
| 3634s | I will say if I were to lose a card from |
| 3638s | from my list second overdraft would be |
| 3640s | the first card on my list that I'd come |
| 3642s | and what Saul really means is inferior |
| 3645s | deck in every way |
| 3651s | Gabby now this is this is exactly what |
| 3653s | we were talking about earlier right it's |
| 3655s | like well yes the Druid you know this |
| 3658s | form of Druid doesn't have to pop off |
| 3660s | super super early but when it's already |
| 3663s | getting beaten up on board now |
| 3666s | and there's other stuff for shaming to |
| 3668s | do as you mentioned sort of the triple |
| 3670s | win condition this is where you feel |
| 3671s | yourself in a little bit of trouble |
| 3673s | right because it's like well I've got to |
| 3674s | clear this board so my board sticks when |
| 3677s | can I even do that and I was mentioning |
| 3679s | earlier Shaman one of the primary decks |
| 3681s | of saying well if you get to turn seven |
| 3683s | and you're against the shaman you might |
| 3686s | well just die at any given moment |
| 3689s | adding furthermore because uh something |
| 3691s | I didn't necessarily address at the time |
| 3692s | banter kept uh the Titan in this matchup |
| 3695s | which I think is largely with the idea |
| 3698s | in mind that kind of the games pan out |
| 3700s | like this fairly often right you you |
| 3702s | curve out you land aboard and if you are |
| 3703s | ahead on board throughout the early |
| 3705s | turns and you just Jam the Titan on |
| 3707s | curve Drew it's not killing that ever |
| 3710s | it's not equipped is it no |
| 3712s | um there is a command of neptulon that |
| 3714s | has appeared in Gabby's hand which might |
| 3715s | have something to say about that but |
| 3716s | under normal circumstances it's not a |
| 3718s | minion that dies when you play it on |
| 3720s | curves so that allows you especially if |
| 3722s | you have that stick on six like if you |
| 3724s | play the Titan on six and then play |
| 3726s | flash of lightning with your free spell |
| 3728s | for that turn and then the Titan sticks |
| 3731s | for the next turn as well they're dead |
| 3733s | just forget it there are there's like no |
| 3735s | hand that you have at that point that |
| 3737s | doesn't kill your opponent so and so do |
| 3739s | you think that this um over |
| 3741s | um overdraft is just going to be played |
| 3743s | kind of no matter what this turn then |
| 3745s | because I do agree with bannerface's |
| 3747s | first play there where the ancestral |
| 3748s | knowledge just was too good not to press |
| 3750s | this turn but then suddenly the overload |
| 3753s | going into next turn as you mentioned |
| 3755s | manifest is already head on board it's |
| 3757s | going to end this turn ahead of board it |
| 3758s | would be absurd right not to set up the |
| 3761s | Titan for turn six |
| 3763s | it does look like the most positive line |
| 3764s | here yeah banter seems to agree |
| 3768s | gets the one Mana back just to be able |
| 3769s | to drop a totem on board |
| 3771s | totems somewhat threatening still in |
| 3774s | this matchup it's one of the things |
| 3776s | about the Chisel right where the Chisel |
| 3778s | represents what a lot of like fake |
| 3781s | pressure I would say overall where |
| 3783s | people get scared of the fact that you |
| 3784s | have three or four totems on your board |
| 3785s | as if you're gonna otk them on turn four |
| 3787s | or something without any discounts which |
| 3789s | isn't really going to happen but the |
| 3792s | threat of extra bodies on board is |
| 3794s | always scary in spots like this |
| 3796s | great play by Gabby by the way Gabby |
| 3798s | without seeing banter's hand knows |
| 3801s | exactly what's going on here and now if |
| 3804s | banter just plays a Titan on curve Gabby |
| 3807s | has already set up to deal with that |
| 3809s | situation in a very advantageous way for |
| 3811s | him so it's one thing for us to sit here |
| 3814s | and go okay this is what banter's plan |
| 3815s | is and then banter does that plan it's |
| 3817s | another thing entirely for Gabby his |
| 3819s | opponent who can't see his hand to also |
| 3822s | understand what banter's plan is and |
| 3824s | play right |
| 3825s | he's such a good sell because it's not |
| 3828s | really like the Titans have three |
| 3830s | options and none of them really solve |
| 3834s | this problem |
| 3836s | um I guess it's |
| 3837s | could play and just kill the five five |
| 3840s | right you can yeah like that is the the |
| 3843s | best option if mcbanker wants uh the |
| 3846s | time to live |
| 3848s | but no I'm just gonna go value |
| 3852s | draw three and then how many cards we |
| 3854s | have in hand right now nine okay |
| 3856s | annoying does have the ability to kill |
| 3858s | this off though right now |
| 3860s | with the three three |
| 3862s | with Turner Tides yeah sure yeah yeah |
| 3865s | yeah yeah yeah yeah I think that was |
| 3868s | good that was a really good pickup |
| 3869s | because that's Best of Both Worlds now |
| 3871s | right the Titan's gone down and it says |
| 3873s | not likely to die as it can possibly be |
| 3876s | oh |
| 3877s | oh Banta just says face damage okay |
| 3880s | counting on the following turn perhaps |
| 3883s | no discounts currently but does have |
| 3885s | zapper two lightning reflexes no crashes |
| 3888s | in hand currently but okay sure was this |
| 3891s | just an assumption that because the |
| 3893s | minion is exactly Topia that well it's |
| 3896s | probably gonna die anyway next turn so |
| 3897s | I'll just push the damage yeah I mean I |
| 3899s | think that's fair |
| 3903s | it does make a lot of sense actually |
| 3905s | when you break it down right because now |
| 3906s | suddenly you've kept an extra 3-3 on the |
| 3909s | ball that your opponent has to attack |
| 3911s | into right like that's an extra minion |
| 3912s | that they have to clear or else you're |
| 3914s | threatening bioluminescence on the |
| 3915s | following term yeah and and push three |
| 3917s | right so |
| 3918s | and as you well know from our air |
| 3920s | testing I also like to just ignore the |
| 3923s | board and push face with damage when you |
| 3925s | play the deck like this |
| 3929s | and this is what I was talking about |
| 3930s | where now at this point even if the |
| 3933s | Titan goes down and the board's clear |
| 3934s | Gabby will not feel safe |
| 3937s | not necessarily anyway |
| 3955s | foreign |
| 3962s | so it's definitely lethal next turn |
| 3966s | but how do we feel about lethal outs |
| 3969s | this turn I don't think there are any I |
| 3972s | think with the flash pickup it's just |
| 3974s | not worth it is it just do stuff |
| 3983s | I say do stuff probably not |
| 3987s | lightning storm |
| 3991s | that's fine the one overload is not |
| 3993s | going to impact your ability to kill |
| 3994s | from 19 with double reflexes in hand I |
| 3999s | don't think I yeah my only worry is do |
| 4002s | you want to overload when your opponent |
| 4004s | has some random stuff at hand right like |
| 4006s | that's the and he also knows the |
| 4009s | asteroids there right |
| 4010s | yep so I guess that's just the one thing |
| 4013s | to think about is does someone by the |
| 4015s | face want maximum Amanda because these |
| 4017s | two minions and he's never dead right |
| 4019s | like these two means they're never going |
| 4020s | to kill him wow so I'm just wondering if |
| 4021s | he wants like maximum I think because |
| 4024s | you saw the LA all of the discounted |
| 4026s | hand get dumped on the previous turn I |
| 4028s | agree with you but solar eclipse plus |
| 4032s | things can do some disgusting stuff when |
| 4034s | you are leaving minions up on board if |
| 4036s | you have a heavily discounted hand but |
| 4038s | no all right I'm down |
| 4040s | too full |
| 4045s | yeah so now Gabby can gain that extra |
| 4047s | armor from Master law or uh maybe go for |
| 4050s | something else eh I'm just gonna piss a |
| 4053s | wave okay yeah make it a little bit more |
| 4055s | Awkward okay yeah I think Gabby |
| 4057s | understands the assignment here right |
| 4059s | like Gabby's dead unless banter needs to |
| 4061s | draw something next turn right if if |
| 4063s | band is set up to draw something next |
| 4065s | turn to win the game then maybe that |
| 4068s | stops IT from happening |
| 4070s | it actually did burn something good as |
| 4072s | well |
| 4074s | yeah I don't think it matters though I |
| 4075s | think banter just has the hand yeah |
| 4078s | comfortably |
| 4081s | he's counting damage right now as to |
| 4082s | whether he actually ever needs extra |
| 4084s | minions from something like command of |
| 4085s | neptulon but I think you're better off |
| 4087s | just rebuying here with zap |
| 4089s | yeah I was gonna say zap's the the |
| 4092s | autopilot pick if you if you are uh |
| 4095s | unsure |
| 4097s | turn the tides I think that's less |
| 4099s | consequential feral Spirits as well can |
| 4102s | now go feral bio bio bolt crash and then |
| 4106s | whatever the additional Discovery is |
| 4108s | yeah |
| 4110s | like I said like I I don't think these |
| 4113s | five fours were necessary because for |
| 4115s | the Mana you spent on this five these |
| 4116s | five fours you could have just played |
| 4118s | the novice zapper instead which is right |
| 4119s | same amount of spell damage for example |
| 4121s | you could just add a zero Mana cycle on |
| 4123s | the zap but it doesn't matter like the |
| 4125s | the way to kill people with these this |
| 4127s | deck doesn't matter pick a way that |
| 4128s | works and then execute it right that's |
| 4130s | really the way to look at it yeah simply |
| 4132s | deal the damage and uh a bit of a |
| 4134s | nothing game there and I don't even mean |
| 4136s | that in a negative way but Gabby outside |
| 4139s | of threatening the Titan you know |
| 4141s | threatening a board with Topia uh we saw |
| 4144s | kind of what we described at the |
| 4146s | beginning of the match and how we feel |
| 4147s | the matchup goes right is well my face |
| 4150s | got on board early like the shaman is |
| 4152s | kind of built to do and there was just |
| 4154s | answers for anything that was needed |
| 4156s | right like um even the benefits could |
| 4159s | have gone other ways with the Titan |
| 4160s | whether it's the AOE or the strictly not |
| 4162s | deal the damage to a single big minion |
| 4164s | and it's just one of those things where |
| 4166s | like the shame is just so flexible in |
| 4168s | that kind of matchup that it's very very |
| 4170s | hard to beat when uh Gabby on the Druid |
| 4172s | was a little bit more of a |
| 4174s | one-dimensional plan and we're just you |
| 4176s | know having a board focus and trying to |
| 4178s | buff those but if you're just not |
| 4180s | allowed to stick anything what's Gabby |
| 4182s | supposed to do yeah I mean that's it |
| 4184s | banto is in control of the tempo of that |
| 4187s | game from term one essentially and right |
| 4189s | Tempo means a lot of things to a lot of |
| 4191s | people but you know the way I like to |
| 4192s | view it is who's asking the questions |
| 4194s | and who's being forced to provide the |
| 4196s | answers and banter was the only person |
| 4198s | asking questions in that entire game |
| 4201s | right it was here's some minions can you |
| 4203s | kill them or are you gonna take 11 |
| 4204s | damage from them oh you chose to take 11 |
| 4206s | damage from them option okay here's my |
| 4209s | Titan can you deal with this and |
| 4211s | generate a board that's so scary that I |
| 4213s | can't just set up to otku the next time |
| 4215s | oh you couldn't unlucky you died that |
| 4218s | that's essentially the way that game |
| 4220s | went over the course of a number number |
| 4221s | of turns is the banter was just fully in |
| 4223s | control throughout and again like it's |
| 4226s | the way the deck is put together to do |
| 4228s | that to be annoying to your opponent |
| 4230s | throughout the early turns by playing |
| 4232s | like essentially just an aggro Tempo |
| 4234s | board based deck throughout the early |
| 4235s | terms and then just oh hey surprise like |
| 4238s | even if you didn't manage to take any |
| 4239s | any chip damage and get control and |
| 4241s | actually regain control of the game |
| 4243s | around turn eight or so I now still have |
| 4245s | the ability to fall back on an otk so |
| 4247s | very very nicely yeah |
| 4250s | yeah and uh I think the first display of |
| 4252s | many that we'll see from Shaymin across |
| 4255s | the board I think we're going to see a |
| 4256s | theme over the course of the weekend of |
| 4257s | Shaymin really just showing how |
| 4259s | adaptable that deck is to what you |
| 4261s | actually need to achieve in any given |
| 4263s | matchup but we are going to go dive |
| 4265s | straight into game number four the Druid |
| 4267s | once again for Gabby going up into what |
| 4269s | I would say is a slightly better match |
| 4271s | up here with the hunter as the last deck |
| 4273s | the banner face needs to take away with |
| 4275s | but I do say slightly better because |
| 4277s | even though the shame is probably king |
| 4280s | of just being able to do what we just |
| 4283s | saw uh this Hunter is also capable of |
| 4285s | not only putting on early game pressure |
| 4287s | with the likes of Tremors um but also |
| 4291s | click do some AOE clear like do some |
| 4293s | removal at least to keep any sort of |
| 4295s | early pressure from Gabby down but |
| 4297s | awakened Tremors is not a bad start |
| 4300s | against especially exactly Druid yep and |
| 4305s | Gabby kind of having to get ahead of |
| 4306s | this dumping the coin to get a Trion in |
| 4308s | play so he doesn't just end up straight |
| 4310s | up taking eight from these four four |
| 4311s | ones that are going to come down this |
| 4312s | turn |
| 4315s | oh okay |
| 4318s | I love titanforce traps so much that I |
| 4320s | Forge it on turn two even when I know I |
| 4323s | shouldn't because I'm like would I get |
| 4325s | two Secrets now I just I just love it so |
| 4329s | I like yeah Forge oh I could have played |
| 4331s | something curve to pressure my opponent |
| 4333s | nah I'll get those two traps later on |
| 4335s | though Forge is a very Raven mechanic |
| 4337s | isn't it oh yeah I could just play |
| 4340s | sensibly but if I do this it does more |
| 4343s | and more is better yeah everyone loves |
| 4347s | more stuff okay and especially and to be |
| 4350s | fair when you have the starstrong bow in |
| 4354s | hand staring at you as well it is more |
| 4356s | attractive right like it is achieving a |
| 4359s | lot more as well |
| 4364s | okay |
| 4369s | Forge |
| 4377s | you know you want to |
| 4382s | you ever realize how broken your brain |
| 4385s | is that when someone says the word Forge |
| 4386s | it just sounds like a twitch emote and |
| 4388s | not a real word to you |
| 4397s | Gabby has to do something |
| 4399s | pretty strong now does have good options |
| 4401s | can you know have some players on board |
| 4403s | of course but Banner face had a you know |
| 4405s | arguably slow turn but that's the the |
| 4408s | difficult thing to handle with |
| 4410s | titanforce is yes the hunter has a some |
| 4413s | sort of whiffed manner so to speak but |
| 4416s | double Secrets is such a pain with the |
| 4419s | secret package that exists right now |
| 4421s | your Hunter can basically like it feels |
| 4423s | like they could basically just pick |
| 4425s | which two they want for whatever |
| 4426s | situation or match-up they're in and |
| 4428s | that's why it's so so strong yep I I |
| 4431s | love Hunter seek I think Hunter secrets |
| 4433s | are the best secrets and have been so |
| 4434s | consistently like not best as in |
| 4436s | strongest necessarily but like the most |
| 4439s | feeling like your opponent is playing a |
| 4441s | trick on you when they when they get yes |
| 4443s | right which is how how secrets are sort |
| 4445s | of supposed to feel in my head |
| 4447s | yeah there are some great combos you can |
| 4450s | do with this as well because the |
| 4451s | addition of zombies and then some of the |
| 4455s | other options like bait zombies zombies |
| 4457s | and then bait and switch can get so |
| 4459s | silly right that yeah it was your |
| 4462s | opponent's turn yet you've cleared some |
| 4465s | of their board and you've gained minions |
| 4467s | but on your opponent's turn it's like |
| 4469s | right seems good catchick of course a |
| 4472s | year fan favorite I think for Hunter |
| 4474s | enjoyers of of your I guess |
| 4478s | yeah purely just because of that golden |
| 4479s | art though which is fantastic of course |
| 4481s | yeah |
| 4483s | also a big fan of the uh wandering |
| 4486s | monster bait and switch combination yes |
| 4488s | yeah unlucky you are procking this no |
| 4490s | matter what you do yeah and you're gonna |
| 4492s | and if you're face tanking oh get ready |
| 4494s | oh you died unlucky yeah I've done that |
| 4498s | many times |
| 4500s | praise nature Gabby gonna get some work |
| 4503s | done himself but already the Havoc |
| 4506s | starts to ensue with a cat chick kitten |
| 4508s | yep |
| 4512s | and it's something I do think a lot when |
| 4514s | I'm playing Hunter on ladder I sit there |
| 4516s | and think wow my opponent must be |
| 4518s | annoyed because they did a whole turn |
| 4520s | and my board improved |
| 4522s | I'm afraid the one who's going to be |
| 4525s | annoyed this game |
| 4527s | is named mcbanterface because the car |
| 4530s | draw into the drum circle and then |
| 4533s | double discount to make it cost five |
| 4535s | with both abilities combined on the next |
| 4538s | turn uh yeah good night |
| 4543s | it's actually one reason I don't if you |
| 4545s | caught it |
| 4547s | but one of the reasons why when I was uh |
| 4549s | self-prepping for this tournament |
| 4552s | um I initially wasn't playing a crack |
| 4554s | and Bane list |
| 4556s | and one of the other cards I was playing |
| 4558s | was the um |
| 4560s | oh no |
| 4562s | oh no my brain's just gone my brain's |
| 4564s | just gone blank no the one Mana spell it |
| 4566s | make sure the Spells uh insta kill do |
| 4568s | poison |
| 4569s | uh sure yeah something spores right yeah |
| 4572s | yeah but yeah but that gives you options |
| 4576s | with Ricochet but yes uh banter does not |
| 4579s | have that card therefore there are zero |
| 4581s | options and even if there were it would |
| 4583s | have been still quite difficult would |
| 4585s | have needed like spores and then like |
| 4586s | Ricochet Ricochet to even have a chance |
| 4589s | there but still Gabby just like that |
| 4591s | fights back and already it's match one |
| 4594s | subtle and we're going down to game five |
| 4600s | I don't know why I blank because like I |
| 4602s | said up until like two days ago I was |
| 4604s | playing the list with that a lot |
| 4606s | um but still I think this series already |
| 4609s | is giving us such a good display of the |
| 4612s | meta right you could almost watch this |
| 4614s | series and be like and then go to the |
| 4615s | ladder and be like yep saw that deck yep |
| 4617s | saw that deck saw that deck because it's |
| 4619s | giving us a good idea of what's pretty |
| 4621s | much going on on ladder that these |
| 4623s | players have been using to qualify for |
| 4625s | this tournament so we are going to be |
| 4626s | going to game five both players evened |
| 4629s | up and it means it's gonna be Hunter |
| 4630s | once again for mcbanterface and |
| 4634s | I've gone blank what's Gabby got left |
| 4640s | for Gabby on the other side so |
| 4643s | interesting one for sure I think the |
| 4646s | aggro hunt I I don't know how I feel |
| 4649s | about this because I when I was playing |
| 4651s | Shaman felt like the Hound Hunter |
| 4652s | matchup was very very easy |
| 4655s | um and that was reflected in the stats |
| 4657s | that I was getting and then talking to |
| 4658s | other players like no Hunter's kind of |
| 4660s | annoying they can be awkward they can do |
| 4662s | things to really Mess With You by Hunter |
| 4663s | do you mean Hollow Hound |
| 4667s | well no not some it's the combination of |
| 4669s | they're because they're playing 40 cards |
| 4671s | they're often playing speaker stomper in |
| 4673s | there as well right so they have they |
| 4675s | have the ability for fast starts that |
| 4676s | can winboard early and pressure you they |
| 4678s | have secrets that can be disruptive |
| 4681s | um and then if you are forced to go all |
| 4684s | in which sometimes you are right |
| 4685s | sometimes against an aggro Deck with |
| 4686s | Shaman you play an early flash for Tempo |
| 4689s | and then you just play your lightning |
| 4691s | reflexes and you end with a crash of |
| 4693s | thunder on turn four or whatever and |
| 4695s | that's never going to get beautiful but |
| 4696s | it can swing the board and then you get |
| 4698s | in front and you might have dealt 12 18 |
| 4700s | damage something like that in the |
| 4702s | process right and then maybe you can get |
| 4703s | there with chip damage that's when |
| 4705s | Hollow Hound really comes in as a factor |
| 4707s | in situations like that when you've been |
| 4709s | forced through Earth yeah but my |
| 4711s | perception early was that Shaman did |
| 4712s | very well against the mid-rangey Hunter |
| 4714s | and then when the more aggressive |
| 4715s | Hunters were appearing I was having a |
| 4717s | more difficult time but as I've dipped |
| 4720s | back into Shaman specifically in |
| 4722s | preparation for this tournament my |
| 4724s | personal experience has now been the |
| 4726s | exact opposite of that so I I don't I |
| 4728s | necessarily know where I've all on this |
| 4730s | one I was gonna say the way I'm viewing |
| 4733s | this as a hunter enjoyer right now of |
| 4735s | playing I've ran into this matchup a lot |
| 4737s | as you can imagine I feel like how much |
| 4740s | I kind of hate to say this is that both |
| 4743s | decks basically are trying to do the |
| 4745s | same thing it's just that the shaman |
| 4747s | does it all a little bit better sure |
| 4751s | yeah I mean I can get on board with that |
| 4752s | certainly if you draw schooling then uh |
| 4755s | yeah it starts to get significantly more |
| 4757s | difficult even straight off the bat |
| 4758s | banterface going second I think is |
| 4761s | there's some great uses for the coin |
| 4763s | with this deck but against Shaman you |
| 4765s | you want to just get cooking right like |
| 4767s | you want to get those minions down |
| 4769s | straight away and give uh Gabby as few |
| 4771s | opportunities as possible to start |
| 4774s | winning on board because I think this |
| 4776s | will rely on my banner face getting |
| 4778s | ahead on board relying on these |
| 4780s | um on these secrets um on the Awakening |
| 4782s | Tremors as well but like you said with |
| 4784s | the Piranhas it's not what you want to |
| 4786s | see if you're a hunter enjoy it right |
| 4787s | now yeah having your own speaker stomper |
| 4789s | though if banter can go winboard into |
| 4791s | speaker stomper and just push a ton of |
| 4793s | damage that's probably the biggest win |
| 4794s | condition from here uh I do like this |
| 4796s | play of uh calling out the 3-4 like yes |
| 4799s | getting the ability played nice and |
| 4800s | early is of course cool but I think also |
| 4802s | just coining the 3-4 generally this deck |
| 4804s | the shaman wants to spend three mana on |
| 4807s | turn three very consistently they want |
| 4809s | to play Pharaoh spirits on turn three |
| 4811s | they want to play turn the tides on turn |
| 4813s | three they want to play ancestral |
| 4815s | knowledge plus Flowrider on turn three |
| 4817s | right like some combination of cards |
| 4819s | that actually just plays for Tempo or |
| 4821s | progresses their game plan in some way |
| 4822s | so by putting a minion in play that |
| 4824s | would survive all that and kind of |
| 4826s | forcing Gabby to do something a little |
| 4827s | bit different |
| 4828s | um I think banter has just managed to be |
| 4830s | slightly annoying on this term which is |
| 4833s | a big upside |
| 4834s | was that drawn off the top did that make |
| 4837s | sure that was so fast we didn't see it |
| 4838s | in hand yeah I was gonna say what a draw |
| 4845s | but now the big question for me is like |
| 4847s | again I'm be prepared this is gonna be |
| 4850s | me all weekend like is this just a |
| 4853s | secret turn I know the speaker stump is |
| 4855s | there but like I feel like the stomper |
| 4857s | should be used to back up a board right |
| 4860s | and without a board great your opponent |
| 4862s | has to deal with the stomper oh no |
| 4866s | but is he gonna Forge or is he gonna |
| 4868s | play the secrets out of hand that's the |
| 4871s | question right I don't think you |
| 4872s | necessarily need to go for the Titan |
| 4874s | forged right now because I think hat |
| 4875s | trick hidden meaning would be a pretty |
| 4877s | premium combination of secrets that you |
| 4879s | would take in this position anyway right |
| 4880s | so see no reason not to just Jam them |
| 4884s | yeah I think if you talked about |
| 4887s | specific combos of Secrets there are |
| 4890s | better options if you could cherry pick |
| 4892s | but because you can't it's not worth it |
| 4899s | this will unlock and Float a Mana at the |
| 4901s | end of the turn because of the way |
| 4903s | thorium works so Gabby can choose to |
| 4905s | play around hidden meaning here if you |
| 4907s | would like to |
| 4909s | or just play the two one honestly like |
| 4911s | that's an option yeah because that was |
| 4913s | because the Secret's played from hand I |
| 4915s | think he knows it's hidden right |
| 4918s | which sounds like a stupid sentence he |
| 4920s | knows but you know you know you know |
| 4922s | what I mean he knows which secret it is |
| 4926s | here we go |
| 4937s | we're gonna see if my banner face is |
| 4938s | thinking about Titan or not |
| 4950s | oh this is tricky isn't it because bait |
| 4953s | and switch feels good oh okay sorry yeah |
| 4955s | I didn't know he had to hold the what |
| 4956s | the one Mana left for the uh for the yo |
| 4958s | manga okay yeah yeah Bane switch is good |
| 4964s | Gabby gonna go face look for the |
| 4966s | explosive trap first and foremost does |
| 4968s | find the explosive trap |
| 4971s | and now just lands a clean Titan I |
| 4973s | imagine yeah just deal three heal |
| 4978s | yeah dealing here looks like the way to |
| 4980s | go and ancestral knowledge to draw the |
| 4983s | cards yeah good ordering from Gabby nice |
| 4985s | and clean |
| 4986s | yep again he had I believe that was 100 |
| 4989s | with full knowledge right there's only |
| 4991s | the the pair of Secrets like natural |
| 4992s | secrets in the deck of the two that were |
| 4995s | played from hand yes there's only two |
| 4996s | yes uh two different secrets in banter's |
| 4998s | deck so yeah knew what they were |
| 5002s | but there's star power |
| 5005s | what a card |
| 5008s | indeed |
| 5010s | the full clear coming out is nice but |
| 5012s | banter I think really wanted to just |
| 5013s | have some Tempo that turn right like if |
| 5015s | you wanted cat trick to go off and not |
| 5016s | be able to be cleared he wanted hidden |
| 5018s | meaning to go off so he got another |
| 5019s | Minion at the start of the turn and then |
| 5021s | he wanted to go face with all of those |
| 5022s | minions and slam speaker stomper that's |
| 5024s | what he wanted to do because that's the |
| 5026s | way that that's the route to winning the |
| 5028s | game |
| 5029s | um he is going to be able to do that |
| 5030s | here maybe a turn further down the line |
| 5033s | especially as he's just seen the the |
| 5036s | trigger from from Gabby the uh the flash |
| 5038s | of lightning come out |
| 5050s | yeah the problem here is it's slipping |
| 5052s | this is the stage where you're in his |
| 5054s | Hunter where you just know it's slipping |
| 5055s | away |
| 5056s | right because although my benefits had |
| 5059s | some real some good early pressure |
| 5060s | there's been not a lot of card draw |
| 5062s | there's no weapons there's no big okay |
| 5066s | there's a weapon now good job uh there's |
| 5068s | no none of the big spell damage Buffs |
| 5069s | you know all that stuff's missing which |
| 5072s | means this 30 or 28 health is quite the |
| 5075s | way away |
| 5076s | I know exactly what's happening here |
| 5078s | because I have also done exactly this |
| 5081s | while on camera playing a tournament |
| 5083s | Gabby right now is saying there is one |
| 5085s | there is a single copy of this card in |
| 5088s | your deck you absolutely do not have it |
| 5091s | in your hand right now uh yeah they uh |
| 5094s | they always have it actually yeah |
| 5098s | laughs |
| 5101s | it's there mate I'm sorry I don't want |
| 5104s | to tell you at least it's a one of |
| 5111s | I mean it's as good eternism but panda |
| 5113s | face is gonna get isn't it get that bow |
| 5115s | out start doing some damage |
| 5118s | that's the question right is like does |
| 5120s | banter want to Ricochet short hero power |
| 5122s | and stomper here or does he want to go |
| 5124s | with the weapon which leaves some of the |
| 5126s | board up on the other side oh yeah |
| 5129s | pretty tight call overall but I'm kind |
| 5133s | of leaning towards agreement with you |
| 5136s | the problem is you you're not playing |
| 5138s | the long game versus Shaman right like |
| 5140s | this is the window play the stomper |
| 5143s | cause this problem yeah there you go |
| 5145s | jabby nice on me and then Pile in the |
| 5147s | damage because this weapon is 12 damage |
| 5149s | over two turns that's a big deal yep |
| 5156s | okay zapper is a very nice draw in terms |
| 5160s | of so the the premium drawers to draw on |
| 5163s | a turn like this firstly flash of |
| 5164s | lightning right like you just play it |
| 5166s | again this turn so you're ready to go |
| 5168s | again next term with the otk setup |
| 5170s | that's the best case scenario uh novice |
| 5172s | zapper though is about as efficient as |
| 5174s | extra spell damage gets in the deck |
| 5176s | right one Mana for plus two spell damage |
| 5178s | once you land bioluminescence on it |
| 5181s | um so it's very high potential that he |
| 5183s | might still be able to get things done |
| 5184s | next turn |
| 5185s | does use a lightning reflexes to find |
| 5189s | some answers here which is going to make |
| 5191s | life a little bit more difficult for him |
| 5193s | on the following term but the extra good |
| 5195s | news as well is that having the carving |
| 5196s | chisel here is this is one of the |
| 5198s | situations where I will admit carving |
| 5200s | chisel is a very very good card uh when |
| 5203s | you have been disrupted and you're still |
| 5205s | trying to achieve lethal right like |
| 5206s | lethal without discounts having zero |
| 5208s | Mana summon a Minion from a previous |
| 5210s | weapon yeah it's very very effective at |
| 5212s | being able to do that any freebies are |
| 5214s | huge |
| 5216s | okay this draw is going to be big for my |
| 5218s | face because he must know oh see so this |
| 5222s | is going to be something I'm going to |
| 5223s | talk about over the weekend not a fan |
| 5225s | crack and bin in the deck put it out |
| 5227s | there feels clunky a lot of the time |
| 5232s | can do it this time but you just get Mr |
| 5234s | Hero power right |
| 5235s | yeah yeah it doesn't quite work out |
| 5238s | it's very close |
| 5240s | hmm |
| 5242s | and let's be honest though |
| 5244s | the battleface doesn't really have a |
| 5246s | choice right I think this is just play |
| 5249s | it all I guess you can hold one Ricochet |
| 5251s | shot |
| 5252s | because the first one's confirmed |
| 5258s | wait a minute |
| 5262s | oh goodness so go do the crack and Bay |
| 5264s | in this turn okay yeah I mean you need |
| 5265s | to Triple spell to juice the thing right |
| 5267s | so yeah I just thought |
| 5269s | I don't know what draw stops you doing |
| 5270s | cracking Bay next turn but I guess it's |
| 5272s | the 3-3 on board is a benefit oh no go |
| 5275s | in hero power |
| 5285s | okay has Gabby pre-countered this is the |
| 5288s | question can I attack a zero attack |
| 5290s | minion very nice well joke's on you |
| 5293s | thought he could attack a zero attack |
| 5295s | minion to get the minion down and play |
| 5297s | one man on Zappa three mana on |
| 5300s | bioluminescence oh yeah and then he's |
| 5302s | pointing at face |
| 5305s | foreign |
| 5306s | looks good to me yeah it looks like |
| 5309s | Gabby he's gonna be the winner of the |
| 5311s | first series on stream today the summer |
| 5313s | Masters Tour Championship here what a |
| 5316s | matchup though so like what a way to |
| 5318s | kick off the day and kick off the |
| 5319s | tournament we got a good spread of decks |
| 5321s | we had some close matchups we had some |
| 5323s | overpowering matchups and we've seen a |
| 5326s | high number of burst damage potential |
| 5329s | coming out of these decks and something |
| 5330s | I think we're gonna see over the course |
| 5332s | of this weekend but congratulations to |
| 5334s | Gabby moving on into the winners bracket |
| 5337s | of the group but of course this does |
| 5339s | mean that Banner face is by no means out |
| 5342s | of the tournament we are playing a |
| 5343s | double elimination groups so Banner face |
| 5346s | is still going to be knocking around but |
| 5347s | he will have to now win the other |
| 5349s | matches he has left today to be able to |
| 5351s | move on to tomorrow |
| 5352s | and a lot of people will look at that |
| 5355s | like that just that last game for |
| 5357s | example right and say oh it was an otk |
| 5359s | you know it's just a combo deck they |
| 5361s | just ported cards and comboed and ended |
| 5363s | the game right but |
| 5364s | turns one through seven both decks were |
| 5368s | fighting for the board incredibly |
| 5369s | aggressively on every single turn right |
| 5371s | and that's why I really like this Shaman |
| 5374s | deck because it's a deck that ends with |
| 5376s | a really fun interesting cool combo um |
| 5379s | for the person doing it to execute I |
| 5381s | understand that the people on the |
| 5382s | receiving end of it are not having such |
| 5383s | a good time |
| 5384s | um but in order to get there you have to |
| 5387s | compete for board right because if at |
| 5389s | any point Gabby had got too greedy and |
| 5391s | ignored what was going on on the board |
| 5393s | or not sequenced his turn incredibly |
| 5396s | well to be able to summon the cat trick |
| 5398s | clear the cat-trick summon the wandering |
| 5400s | monster summon the uh the hidden meaning |
| 5401s | deal with that as well right if that |
| 5403s | board had been able to get out of |
| 5405s | control on bat on banter side suddenly |
| 5408s | banter has three or four minions in play |
| 5410s | and then plays the speaker stomper right |
| 5412s | and then suddenly we have an entirely |
| 5413s | different game apart wasn't Gabby on |
| 5415s | three Health at the end of that game |
| 5417s | like it's nothing right so that fight |
| 5420s | from term one to turn five to turn six |
| 5422s | or so as to who is going to dominate the |
| 5423s | board early is much much more crucial |
| 5426s | um in these Shaman matchups than people |
| 5428s | give it credit for I think Gabby did an |
| 5430s | excellent job in that last game being |
| 5431s | able to get there as well as navigating |
| 5433s | through the turn under speaker stomper |
| 5435s | conditions extremely well on the |
| 5438s | penultimate turn of the game as well |
| 5439s | yeah this was just our first match |
| 5442s | kicking off the tournament this weekend |
| 5443s | there's plenty more coming up we're |
| 5445s | gonna go to a quick break while we set |
| 5446s | up more HearthStone for you guys so stay |
| 5448s | tuned we'll be right back |
| 5451s | [Music] |
| 5468s | [Music] |
| 5508s | [Music] |
| 5516s | foreign |
| 5543s | [Music] |
| 5555s | thank you |
| 5559s | [Music] |
| 5569s | [Music] |
| 5578s | [Music] |
| 5589s | [Music] |
| 5596s | [Music] |
| 5602s | [Music] |
| 5605s | thank you |
| 5609s | [Music] |
| 5617s | [Music] |
| 5637s | [Music] |
| 5641s | thank you |
| 5643s | [Music] |
| 5659s | [Music] |
| 5674s | foreign |
| 5676s | [Music] |
| 5687s | [Music] |
| 5726s | [Music] |
| 5733s | wow |
| 5737s | [Music] |
| 5742s | foreign |
| 5743s | [Music] |
| 5752s | [Music] |
| 5770s | [Music] |
| 5778s | [Music] |
| 5786s | foreign |
| 5794s | [Music] |
| 5809s | foreign |
| 5820s | [Music] |
| 5837s | [Applause] |
| 5838s | [Music] |
| 5841s | [Applause] |
| 5842s | [Music] |
| 5845s | [Applause] |
| 5846s | [Music] |
| 5853s | [Applause] |
| 5854s | [Music] |
| 5857s | [Applause] |
| 5858s | [Music] |
| 5861s | [Applause] |
| 5862s | [Music] |
| 5868s | thank you |
| 5870s | foreign |
| 5875s | [Music] |
| 5921s | thank you |
| 5924s | hello everyone welcome back to the |
| 5928s | Hearthstone Masters Tour summer |
| 5930s | Championship we are underway here with |
| 5933s | our first day in the group stage I will |
| 5937s | be your host for game number two I'm |
| 5940s | Dawn or Dragon Rider and joined today by |
| 5944s | Lorinda how you doing |
| 5946s | I'm doing great what a way to kick it |
| 5948s | off with Gabby and banterface there in |
| 5950s | that first one I don't know how we're |
| 5951s | going to top that all weekend to be |
| 5953s | honest but here we are game two of the |
| 5955s | weekend saying we can't top it we always |
| 5957s | find a way and we're gonna have another |
| 5959s | good one for you coming up soon we're |
| 5960s | gonna have tansoku versus insane I |
| 5962s | believe |
| 5963s | yeah absolutely and there are as uh |
| 5967s | Raven and saddle mentioned there are |
| 5969s | tons of very very good players in this |
| 5972s | entire bracket so let's take a look at |
| 5974s | these players that we have here in our |
| 5977s | group stages and for this group a we do |
| 5981s | see uh Wiki and meaty and moving into |
| 5983s | that Winners so they won their first |
| 5986s | match there will be some elimination |
| 5987s | matches as well it's gonna be uh two |
| 5991s | wins to get through these groups to get |
| 5993s | to day two so gonna be a tough battle |
| 5997s | for some of these players but I don't |
| 5999s | know how you're feeling about this one I |
| 6000s | feel like it's a been a pretty close |
| 6002s | Series so far for group a yeah meaty was |
| 6005s | nearly reverse swept there he was 2-0 |
| 6007s | got back to 2-2 but ended up going |
| 6009s | through uh Group B here it's just name |
| 6012s | after name renwyn versus Casey in the |
| 6014s | elimination we are trying to show you an |
| 6016s | elimination match here we're not going |
| 6017s | to show every single match that we're |
| 6018s | going to show you matches where people |
| 6020s | get removed so you get to see nearly |
| 6022s | everybody at least once uh some of the |
| 6024s | o2s will miss but we'll see most players |
| 6026s | at least want to join the course of |
| 6027s | today and obviously all of the top eight |
| 6029s | tomorrow uh but these groups look at |
| 6031s | this pocket train dread eye just |
| 6033s | cruising through there and now gone and |
| 6036s | rulian whose name I probably didn't get |
| 6038s | it right but yeah into that elimination |
| 6039s | match it's just name after name like you |
| 6041s | said they're all good names |
| 6043s | but some of the names are just like a |
| 6045s | little bit bigger than the others |
| 6046s | especially in this group Dawn yeah I |
| 6049s | mean honestly Group C and Group D |
| 6051s | looking very very stacked and here we |
| 6054s | saw Gabby beating mcbanter face in that |
| 6056s | very close Series in that first game so |
| 6059s | moving into that Winners but what we are |
| 6062s | going to be seeing plenty more action |
| 6065s | including our next game that you and I |
| 6068s | will be covering here Lorinda and that |
| 6069s | is going to be as you mentioned Tom |
| 6071s | sanku versus insane which uh what do we |
| 6075s | have for their dexler and I know you and |
| 6078s | I were talking a little bit about this |
| 6080s | before we got into this uh call yeah so |
| 6083s | insane has got the um fairly aggressive |
| 6086s | lineup actually everybody in the |
| 6087s | tournament's got a mage of some sort |
| 6089s | um mainly going to be the Sith Mage then |
| 6091s | we're going to be bringing that Naga |
| 6092s | Mage uh insane has got the outcast DH |
| 6094s | he's got the shaman and he has the |
| 6097s | Arcane secret face whatever you want to |
| 6099s | call it the weird Hunter deck that if |
| 6102s | you played it it doesn't feel weird but |
| 6104s | where does your damage come from you do |
| 6105s | 12 damage of your weapon and 18 damage |
| 6107s | from |
| 6108s | space I don't know where it comes from |
| 6110s | from somewhere yes |
| 6112s | trying to circle on the other hand has |
| 6114s | the the Warlock he has the the Rogue the |
| 6117s | Druid and the Mage a little bit off the |
| 6119s | wall and yeah look at these stats 2016 |
| 6122s | has the golden card back more than five |
| 6125s | times apparently |
| 6127s | yeah and it's a very interesting the |
| 6130s | tansanku is one of the two players from |
| 6132s | Japan apparently tansanku also means |
| 6135s | short-legged person in Japanese which I |
| 6138s | don't know I I didn't think the dawn or |
| 6140s | Dragon Rider meant that but I think I |
| 6141s | fit in there as well here's Square legs |
| 6144s | uh but both of the Japanese players |
| 6146s | actually both brought uh the same lineup |
| 6149s | or very very similar they both brought |
| 6151s | the same style of decks and that does |
| 6154s | include that warlock that we are seeing |
| 6156s | here I know Linda that you are not a fan |
| 6158s | of this warlock how do you feel seeing |
| 6161s | this here I mean I'm not allowed to say |
| 6164s | the words that this invokes in me on |
| 6166s | broadcast but this deck is incredibly |
| 6168s | powerful when it does its incredible |
| 6170s | powerful thing which is player slime on |
| 6172s | turn four or turn five and then get a |
| 6174s | thing which then gets you another thing |
| 6176s | which then gets you loads of things and |
| 6178s | you thing them to death or you do |
| 6180s | nothing you clear the board three turns |
| 6181s | in a row and then you die horribly |
| 6183s | um we're not a lot in between to be |
| 6185s | honest how do you see it give us a more |
| 6187s | um realistic video about it |
| 6189s | yeah it has a lot of stat potential a |
| 6193s | lot of repetitive boards that can be |
| 6196s | difficult for other decks to deal with |
| 6198s | but it does feel like it can be a little |
| 6201s | bit High rolly sometimes as you |
| 6202s | mentioned trying to really get into that |
| 6204s | slime |
| 6205s | but we do have some other decks on the |
| 6208s | other side and as you mentioned fairly |
| 6210s | aggressive potentially here so let's |
| 6213s | let's look at insane and talk about his |
| 6215s | lineup here bringing Outcast DH rainbow |
| 6218s | Mage nature Shaman and that secret or |
| 6221s | Arcane Hunter a little bit more |
| 6224s | aggressive a little bit more bursty |
| 6225s | potential I I am personally a huge fan |
| 6229s | of the outcast Demon Hunter and this how |
| 6233s | it's kind of well positioned to me in |
| 6235s | this meta for this tournament |
| 6238s | yeah it if you're willing to just not |
| 6242s | have |
| 6243s | certain things your opponents line up |
| 6244s | like Mage which everyone's brought um |
| 6246s | the outcast is just pretty meaty it just |
| 6250s | there's not a lot to say about this deck |
| 6252s | if you've played this deck once or twice |
| 6253s | you'll realize it's surprisingly fiddly |
| 6255s | and complicated to play optimally but |
| 6258s | also sometimes it doesn't matter if you |
| 6259s | play optimally you just put some things |
| 6261s | on the board and hit them and they die |
| 6263s | and then you draw some more cards and |
| 6264s | they die again and then you drop |
| 6266s | helviria and everyone has rush and gets |
| 6268s | really really big and if they'll die |
| 6269s | again like you can kill people so many |
| 6270s | different ways with this deck um so |
| 6272s | quickly but being precise with it is |
| 6274s | actually quite hard |
| 6276s | yeah there is definitely some |
| 6279s | combinations or different play styles |
| 6282s | that you can do with the deck I feel |
| 6284s | like there is the kind of just go for |
| 6286s | the outcast stuff maybe go a little bit |
| 6288s | wide on board try to find some answers |
| 6291s | from generating those Outcast cards or |
| 6295s | there is that building into the kind of |
| 6297s | wide board that has a lot of Rush |
| 6299s | minions and getting a lot of burst |
| 6300s | damage with the health area damage as |
| 6303s | you mentioned but it is kind of |
| 6305s | interesting to me I just I think it is |
| 6307s | pretty well positioned I feel like it |
| 6308s | does well into Mage so yeah with all the |
| 6311s | of the players bringing Mage it seems it |
| 6314s | seems pretty solid here and it can be |
| 6317s | pretty aggressive go decently fast which |
| 6319s | into things like that warlock that we |
| 6321s | saw might prove uh pretty useful |
| 6325s | it's gonna be interesting um all the way |
| 6327s | through this tournament uh subtle made |
| 6329s | the point when I was practicing the |
| 6330s | video when I was streaming I think and |
| 6331s | he made the point in stream that we |
| 6334s | don't really have good data for this set |
| 6336s | for this particular tournament from |
| 6338s | replay sites because |
| 6340s | there's only like 30 or 40 players in |
| 6343s | the world capable of playing these decks |
| 6345s | really well in these matchups right now |
| 6346s | there's so many matchups there's so many |
| 6348s | decks that you can play now even all the |
| 6350s | way down to it will give Warrior an |
| 6352s | example of a deck you can play you might |
| 6354s | not do very well with it but you'll bump |
| 6356s | into a warrior on ladder if you play |
| 6357s | enough Hearthstone it's not it's not |
| 6359s | like the zeros across the board we had |
| 6360s | at the end of last meta so the numbers |
| 6363s | are thin and the number of people |
| 6364s | playing them are high and I think we're |
| 6365s | going to disagree as casters as players |
| 6367s | a lot about matchups until we see over |
| 6370s | this weekend how the top players play |
| 6371s | them oh absolutely and it's uh also very |
| 6375s | interesting I think that saddle was |
| 6376s | bringing this up in that first series as |
| 6378s | well about the not only the difference |
| 6380s | in what people kind of think about |
| 6383s | matchups but also in card choices and I |
| 6385s | think we're going to see that in some of |
| 6386s | these lists throughout the whole weekend |
| 6389s | but we're jumping into game number one |
| 6391s | here tansanku on this Druid and insane |
| 6394s | here bringing in this Hunter for the |
| 6397s | first game now it's kind of interesting |
| 6399s | as you mentioned that the damage from |
| 6402s | this Hunter can kind of just appear out |
| 6404s | of nowhere but some of these cards right |
| 6408s | now I'm not sure is Ricochet shot going |
| 6412s | to be good enough here dealing just one |
| 6414s | I I think insane's gonna need to find |
| 6416s | something a little bit here too uh |
| 6419s | combat some of these trains that are |
| 6420s | going to start to come down from tonsaku |
| 6422s | there is that for now but you can dig up |
| 6424s | the the |
| 6425s | um the poison spines I'm gonna be |
| 6427s | terrible with the names of all the cards |
| 6429s | this time around |
| 6431s | um |
| 6431s | if he has them in the deck I'm just |
| 6433s | having a look and he does not so he |
| 6436s | can't there you go |
| 6440s | so yes you're right the vehicle shot is |
| 6442s | going to do very little here |
| 6444s | and that lingering zombie is one that is |
| 6448s | a card that we're seeing one of those |
| 6450s | differences in as well some of the |
| 6451s | Druids that were brought have the |
| 6453s | lingering zombie and I believe some of |
| 6455s | them don't so that's yet another card |
| 6457s | even though it may be not one of the |
| 6459s | most powerful cards it's another card |
| 6461s | that players seem to kind of be |
| 6462s | disagreeing on kind of which direction |
| 6464s | they want to bring this through it in |
| 6466s | slightly more aggressive with more of |
| 6468s | these minions or not but |
| 6471s | the Ricochet shot can at least start to |
| 6474s | answer that it is going to be a little |
| 6475s | bit awkward here though but there needs |
| 6478s | to be more triance right that's what |
| 6481s | these Druids regardless of which version |
| 6482s | are looking for those treants there is |
| 6486s | the blossoms that is in hand and now the |
| 6489s | Witchwood Apple has just been picked up |
| 6490s | so there is a little bit of that |
| 6492s | generation there and the seedsman in |
| 6494s | hand as well for tonsaku going to be |
| 6496s | able to ramp up a little bit more get |
| 6498s | closer to that drum circle for either |
| 6501s | more uh treats or additional stats and |
| 6505s | it's going to kind of depend which route |
| 6506s | that he wants to go with that on the |
| 6509s | current state of the board when he's |
| 6510s | able to play it |
| 6511s | yeah he's doing this first um so that he |
| 6514s | lowers the chance of hitting face which |
| 6516s | isn't a thing that happened straight |
| 6518s | away |
| 6520s | um it now has decisions to make on the |
| 6522s | second one |
| 6523s | yeah |
| 6525s | it's a little bit unfortunate there |
| 6527s | going face first but |
| 6531s | is it something he wants to risk with |
| 6533s | the second one |
| 6536s | I'm trying to find another option |
| 6538s | uh |
| 6539s | he probably wants to get his cat tricked |
| 6542s | down this turn so he's wondering whether |
| 6543s | to just Arcane shot and suck it up or go |
| 6545s | for the second shot like do you want the |
| 6547s | second shot later is the second shot |
| 6548s | actually going to be useful later I |
| 6549s | think not I think doing two now three |
| 6551s | times is probably the best you're gonna |
| 6553s | get out of it and then you get to dump |
| 6555s | the cat trick on the board so you've got |
| 6556s | something on board for the next turn as |
| 6558s | well I like this |
| 6561s | yeah absolutely being able to just clear |
| 6564s | these up as well pretty handy now I |
| 6567s | guess looking to potentially make a |
| 6569s | trade |
| 6571s | you definitely do want to try to keep as |
| 6573s | much off the board against the Druid as |
| 6575s | possible but |
| 6578s | is it necessary at this point or |
| 6586s | um well |
| 6589s | just just set it up do the thing I mean |
| 6592s | yeah the Druid Deck I think one of the |
| 6595s | things that maybe put the top players |
| 6596s | off we've heard already from subtle that |
| 6598s | pocket train was somebody who actually |
| 6600s | thought this was very close I think that |
| 6603s | it might put the top players off is a |
| 6604s | skill ceiling |
| 6606s | is is quite low |
| 6610s | um and yeah the deck is super good but |
| 6612s | there's not a lot of room for movability |
| 6622s | this is a really interesting turn here |
| 6625s | for insane does he just want to go yeah |
| 6627s | it was kind of a choice between do you |
| 6629s | just want to go for one four four body |
| 6632s | or did you want to play The Far Strider |
| 6634s | and buff those up but again keeping |
| 6637s | Druid off of the board as much as |
| 6639s | possible can definitely go a long way |
| 6641s | especially as you mentioned kind of |
| 6644s | building up to some of that potential |
| 6645s | damage but right now there's really not |
| 6648s | a whole lot of damage in hand for insane |
| 6650s | and it might just be a delay as much as |
| 6653s | possible get to that prison of yogs |
| 6655s | around and hope that you get something |
| 6657s | good |
| 6658s | yeah I mean there's really nothing else |
| 6661s | going on here is there |
| 6663s | um |
| 6664s | the prison is incredibly incredibly um |
| 6668s | variable I've noticed |
| 6670s | um you often only get the first use out |
| 6672s | of it in these situations especially if |
| 6673s | something like Druid you're gonna have |
| 6675s | four spells and a prayer |
| 6678s | um not a lot else can happen here for |
| 6679s | him I don't think |
| 6688s | oh tracker coming into hand can |
| 6690s | certainly draw into something an |
| 6692s | Awakening Tremors going to be able to |
| 6695s | allow insane to get on the board here |
| 6697s | which especially after just seeing |
| 6699s | tonsaku drop that seedsman and not going |
| 6702s | wide with more bodies than just the |
| 6704s | single Minion this seems like a very |
| 6707s | good setup here for insane a lot of |
| 6710s | pressure |
| 6713s | this is a |
| 6716s | a lot but it's going to be a lot to get |
| 6719s | through as well a lot of the time |
| 6723s | a glowing drum circle though |
| 6726s | yeah it definitely is a lot of stats |
| 6730s | no way of eclipsing it that I can see |
| 6739s | yeah not this turn so is that something |
| 6743s | is it yeah is it just go for it here on |
| 6746s | turn seven or is it stall and try to get |
| 6749s | even more value out of it |
| 6751s | oh he's so you can see what he wants to |
| 6753s | do he just wants to take a million |
| 6756s | damage and not die but |
| 6757s | Common Sense has prevailed unfortunately |
| 6760s | because I wanted to see him take that |
| 6761s | and see what happened but yeah it's big |
| 6764s | enough isn't it it's a lot of stuff it |
| 6766s | is |
| 6771s | with Hardy seeing both Ricochet shots |
| 6773s | used as well these minions for insane |
| 6777s | being at just four uh attack actually |
| 6781s | lines up pretty well I think first |
| 6783s | hansanku with the minions having sex |
| 6786s | Health on his side of the board but yeah |
| 6788s | here it is one uh one million going down |
| 6791s | one trillion going down in this prison |
| 6792s | of yogg-saron coming out we're gonna see |
| 6794s | is it going to benefit insane or is it |
| 6798s | gonna be a punish |
| 6799s | so this makes me laugh every time my |
| 6802s | goodness oh no |
| 6806s | he was getting well excited there for a |
| 6808s | second but yeah |
| 6812s | you can't get too excited too quickly |
| 6814s | with the with yogg |
| 6816s | it's infiniteized open next turn is |
| 6818s | there a next turn there's going to be a |
| 6819s | next turn right |
| 6821s | there's no buff in hand here for |
| 6823s | tansokers I can see |
| 6824s | oh he's looking for him with the |
| 6826s | evidence okay definitely could search |
| 6828s | for it here |
| 6834s | more potential for discovering into |
| 6836s | something these are not the damage that |
| 6839s | he's looking for here |
| 6848s | still several Mana left after this a r |
| 6852s | and lifeblood coming out |
| 6857s | again no additional damage |
| 6867s | well no additional damage but also |
| 6870s | whilst this Hunter can do a lot of |
| 6872s | damage at first I don't think 26 is |
| 6874s | particularly in its wheelhouse it's got |
| 6876s | to clear |
| 6877s | yeah is there even a way to clear all of |
| 6882s | this from insane right now really gonna |
| 6884s | have to try to find something there's |
| 6886s | the potential to draw there is the |
| 6888s | potential to discover something else |
| 6890s | with that infinite size |
| 6892s | but is it enough |
| 6896s | yeah I used to have anything else is the |
| 6897s | other question like he can pick away at |
| 6899s | some of the stuff on the board yeah and |
| 6902s | draw cards but our cards from his deck |
| 6905s | what do you want so a random nonsense |
| 6908s | cards what he wants right now |
| 6913s | the good removal was in his deck |
| 6917s | yeah |
| 6919s | well gonna start with the conjured Arrow |
| 6921s | clear something and hope to draw into |
| 6923s | something else here the other conjured |
| 6925s | Arrow |
| 6927s | this single Target removal is just not |
| 6929s | doing enough to clear up all of this |
| 6931s | damage on the board from tonsankou |
| 6933s | though right |
| 6934s | sunwell time everybody |
| 6939s | nothing |
| 6943s | yeah that was a very unfortunate |
| 6946s | situation for insane but on the other |
| 6949s | side of the board that is exactly the |
| 6951s | kind of lineup the kind of initial |
| 6955s | starts of the game and lead into that |
| 6958s | big board in the mid game to close |
| 6960s | things out fairly quickly that tonsanka |
| 6963s | was absolutely looking for I know subtle |
| 6965s | said that he wasn't maybe not a believer |
| 6968s | in the Druid as much as some other |
| 6969s | players obviously tansaku was there but |
| 6972s | the draw is also for insane did not seem |
| 6975s | like they were going his way |
| 6977s | yeah I think I that deck's gonna be |
| 6980s | interesting all weekend to see I think |
| 6981s | it's going to be fascinating to see how |
| 6983s | unfolds I think Soto said he wasn't a |
| 6984s | Believer but I also believe just it |
| 6986s | fairness subtle he's willing to defer to |
| 6988s | pocket train on such matters if pocket |
| 6989s | train says it's really close it's |
| 6991s | probably really close |
| 6994s | um |
| 6995s | we had one at zero in the books and it |
| 6998s | did look pretty good there and the |
| 7001s | Hunter |
| 7002s | what do you make of this Hunter deck it |
| 7004s | seems to me to be incredibly stable it |
| 7007s | seems to be pretty good but feels like |
| 7009s | it's just something slightly missing |
| 7011s | sometimes that was one of those games |
| 7012s | where it just didn't do anything |
| 7014s | yeah it's a interesting |
| 7017s | uh type of deck I feel like because |
| 7019s | there is that potential but personally I |
| 7022s | feel like you have to really have the |
| 7024s | decent draws along with it and as we saw |
| 7026s | there there I mean the draws just |
| 7028s | weren't lining up maybe it was just that |
| 7030s | match-up but I feel like I'm a much more |
| 7033s | believer in the Hound Hunter style of |
| 7035s | Hunter rather than this kind of Arcane |
| 7038s | secret Hunter |
| 7040s | and I know that some of the players too |
| 7042s | for uh like mcbanter face he is uh not |
| 7047s | thrilled with his choice of bringing |
| 7049s | that Arcane Hunter so I am definitely |
| 7052s | very interested to see how it stands out |
| 7054s | and oh here's some of the terms that we |
| 7056s | saw for insane on that Hunter the not |
| 7060s | really being able to buff up the Arts |
| 7062s | and spells with those Rika shots just |
| 7064s | didn't quite clear enough there from the |
| 7067s | board |
| 7069s | foreign |
| 7075s | spells start thinking oh my goodness |
| 7077s | he's gonna get out of this but no he |
| 7079s | didn't get out of it and still has that |
| 7082s | to go through such is the conquest life |
| 7086s | uh 10 seconds lineup by the way was |
| 7088s | basically I mean it's banned the shaman |
| 7089s | but if you look at the stats against the |
| 7091s | shaman I think he he chose to just ban |
| 7095s | Shaman every round I think he he rated |
| 7097s | Shaman is good all of his decks are |
| 7098s | terrible against Shaman so that's |
| 7101s | allowed him some versatility against the |
| 7103s | field but |
| 7105s | Banning Sherman is that where we want to |
| 7107s | be that's another thing we have to find |
| 7108s | out over the next couple of days |
| 7109s | yeah absolutely it's certainly |
| 7112s | interesting because also most of the |
| 7114s | players did bring Shaman not all of the |
| 7116s | players I think what 13 of the 16 have |
| 7119s | Shaman uh so that's kind of one of those |
| 7122s | are they trying to beat Shaman do they |
| 7125s | think that they have enough good |
| 7127s | matchups against the shaman that they |
| 7129s | don't need to ban it or is it just the |
| 7130s | deck that they're gonna say I'm not even |
| 7133s | gonna worry about it I'm just gonna ban |
| 7134s | that Shaman and try to win against |
| 7136s | everything else as you mentioned that's |
| 7137s | sometimes the nature of conquest and |
| 7140s | especially with having to have four |
| 7141s | decks for a lineup I often feel like uh |
| 7144s | players are very comfortable with the |
| 7145s | first like two or three decks and then |
| 7147s | they kind of have to just fill in a |
| 7148s | fourth so it could be kind of awkward |
| 7151s | for them to decide which deck they will |
| 7154s | ban in this situation but we are going |
| 7157s | to be getting into game number two here |
| 7159s | and there is that warlock lorenza |
| 7161s | tansanku bringing in this Warlock and |
| 7164s | insane actually switching over with |
| 7166s | Conquest the player that loses can |
| 7169s | choose to switch decks and it looks like |
| 7171s | insane has decided to switch off of that |
| 7173s | Hunter and bring in the mage |
| 7175s | yeah and he'll be pleased about that and |
| 7177s | he'll be pleased about this draw as well |
| 7179s | because it's pretty close to the nuts |
| 7182s | you want to get on the board as this |
| 7183s | Mage sometimes you just don't and the |
| 7186s | best way to get on the board is keyboard |
| 7187s | coin Cold Case which he has two of cold |
| 7190s | cases and that's going to present a lot |
| 7193s | of stuff on the other side to have SoCo |
| 7194s | with the Slime obviously in his hand |
| 7196s | because that's what this deck does it |
| 7198s | always has slime in its hand and it |
| 7200s | always plays it and it always gets the |
| 7201s | nuts |
| 7203s | I'm not bitter I was gonna say that that |
| 7206s | sounds like a lot of very personal uh |
| 7208s | experience there end up maybe not from |
| 7211s | from the player who's getting to play |
| 7213s | the Slime but yeah as you mentioned that |
| 7215s | keyboard into Cold Case very very solid |
| 7219s | uh the the big thing about this rainbow |
| 7222s | mage deck that a lot of players talk |
| 7224s | about is the amount of burst damage |
| 7226s | that's possible but the cosmic keyboard |
| 7229s | also makes Tempo sometimes potentially |
| 7232s | possible as well especially when it is |
| 7234s | paired with Cold Case or follow-up |
| 7236s | bodies I Arcane Min or Arcane worm and |
| 7240s | some other small minions like that |
| 7241s | aren't necessarily the kind of tempo and |
| 7244s | the kind of bodies that you want to be |
| 7245s | pushing damage with but they are there |
| 7249s | that can push a little bit of Chip |
| 7251s | damage in the early parts of the game |
| 7253s | yeah it adds up one Three's A remarkably |
| 7256s | annoying shape for a one drop even in |
| 7259s | modern Hearthstone you think that by now |
| 7261s | it's sort of get out of that but no one |
| 7263s | three is still annoying but here we go |
| 7264s | this is the |
| 7266s | the thing that I always find difficult |
| 7267s | with this deck when to deal with a slime |
| 7269s | you know deal with the thing that comes |
| 7271s | out of the Slime deal the thing that |
| 7272s | comes out of the thing that comes out of |
| 7274s | the Slime like or just ignore it and let |
| 7276s | them worry about it and hit them in the |
| 7277s | head |
| 7278s | so you see him hovering there over the |
| 7281s | the seven drop and that'll be his plan |
| 7283s | to get that down while still having some |
| 7285s | semblance of a Hearthstone game going on |
| 7289s | yeah there is always that debate and |
| 7291s | it's always interesting to kind of see |
| 7294s | what players want to do because of the |
| 7295s | threat of things like shallow grave as |
| 7297s | well right it's not only just answering |
| 7299s | the slime in the first body but if you |
| 7301s | don't answer the Slime is the Warlock |
| 7304s | player going to have the potential to |
| 7306s | create more bodies with shallow grave or |
| 7308s | even reverberation the Slime as well and |
| 7311s | create more bodies uh over the the long |
| 7315s | term and |
| 7316s | there is also really just no answer for |
| 7320s | it if he likes for it for killing it so |
| 7323s | I do like this decision here to just |
| 7326s | kind of draw some cards try to go for |
| 7328s | his own game plan here and yeah he is |
| 7330s | just completely ignoring this I'm going |
| 7332s | to try to push that damage and say even |
| 7335s | if you do kill the Slime off you get |
| 7337s | some big bodies out on the board I can |
| 7339s | just close out the game over the top of |
| 7341s | any taunts yeah notice he didn't go for |
| 7344s | armor there he could have played the |
| 7345s | artificial but he's gone for the bolt so |
| 7347s | next turn he has |
| 7349s | um no damage from hand he has bolt he |
| 7351s | has AOE he has Minions on board that |
| 7353s | adds up to easily 11 which is the target |
| 7355s | number that's kind of your if you can do |
| 7357s | 11 on board you might not be dead yet |
| 7360s | um he has The Alibi to hold on for a |
| 7361s | turn or two he has the reverberations in |
| 7364s | his deck waiting to be drawn which |
| 7366s | is the reason that Majors favored in |
| 7368s | this matchup you just kill that big |
| 7370s | thing and then |
| 7371s | it's gone and then they don't have a big |
| 7373s | thing anymore and they eventually the |
| 7375s | Warlock just runs out of ways to keep |
| 7377s | getting stuff back |
| 7378s | uh but sometimes they just kill you and |
| 7380s | I think that's why this Warlock deck is |
| 7382s | popular because people like Decks that |
| 7383s | sometimes just kill you |
| 7386s | yeah yeah and especially if the Mage |
| 7389s | doesn't find an alibi as well those big |
| 7393s | stats those big bodies definitely uh can |
| 7396s | add up very very quickly it's just what |
| 7399s | this deck does yeah there it is |
| 7402s | I'm not bitter this deck has never hurt |
| 7404s | me personally I swear it just does this |
| 7405s | every time |
| 7407s | a 100 of the time that's why we showed |
| 7410s | it |
| 7412s | yeah it's definitely a deck that uh is |
| 7416s | kind of a debatable deck whether it is |
| 7418s | something that you're able to pull these |
| 7420s | things off or is it just not worth even |
| 7424s | bringing it like most players right 14 |
| 7426s | of the 16 did not bring Warlock and I |
| 7428s | think uh the consensus is that it's |
| 7431s | something that's not worth bringing but |
| 7433s | yeah |
| 7434s | it's paying off for tonsaku right now |
| 7438s | there's a few cards in the history of |
| 7440s | hearthstone and there's a few decks as |
| 7442s | well that |
| 7444s | your own personal experience is so |
| 7446s | different from other peoples at times my |
| 7448s | mind this is one of mine but also for |
| 7450s | the other players for some of the cards |
| 7452s | like um |
| 7453s | the yoga location for example like |
| 7455s | different people have had different |
| 7456s | experience of that because the number of |
| 7458s | outcomes is so large |
| 7460s | and I think that if you've had good |
| 7461s | experiences with this Warlock deck you |
| 7462s | just don't want to put it down because |
| 7463s | the things it does are so powerful when |
| 7466s | it does them |
| 7467s | yeah and I think sometimes too there is |
| 7469s | that little bit of difference between |
| 7471s | the kind of like Western and European |
| 7474s | views of Dex and The Meta versus some of |
| 7477s | the like Asia Pacific style of play as |
| 7480s | well because both again both tansanku |
| 7482s | and our other Japanese player both |
| 7484s | brought the same lineup they both these |
| 7486s | were the two players that brought the |
| 7488s | Warlock so there could just be a bit of |
| 7490s | a difference in the view there as well |
| 7493s | I think that's a good call I think that |
| 7495s | traditionally |
| 7497s | if Europe being the the best region of |
| 7499s | the three competing this tournament I |
| 7501s | think are easily the best region like |
| 7504s | that's not personal preference I'd like |
| 7506s | to support the Americans because I cast |
| 7507s | with TJ for a million years but |
| 7510s | if Europe does have one weakness in its |
| 7512s | debt selections I do think there's a |
| 7514s | little bit of snobbery around decks like |
| 7516s | this warlock like oh I wouldn't play |
| 7517s | that because look at it it's a high roll |
| 7519s | deck not a lot I think they're very very |
| 7521s | objective very mathematically based and |
| 7522s | that sort of things but if there is a |
| 7524s | thing I think you're sometimes just |
| 7525s | avoid stuff like this uh Source we saw |
| 7528s | it with token Druid two years ago as |
| 7531s | well Europeans weren't playing it APAC |
| 7533s | were playing it a lot and it did |
| 7534s | incredibly well when they brought it |
| 7537s | yeah |
| 7539s | well |
| 7540s | this is uh very interesting I know |
| 7543s | yesterday in some of our prep larinda |
| 7546s | you and I were talking about this kind |
| 7548s | of difference between on-board damage |
| 7551s | versus in hand damage and we're really |
| 7554s | seeing that showcased in this match |
| 7555s | right now Tom sanku kind of has these |
| 7558s | decks right with this Druid honestly |
| 7561s | even the mech Rogue that we potentially |
| 7562s | will be seeing and the Warlock here that |
| 7566s | are very kind of focused on this onboard |
| 7568s | damage building up these bodies building |
| 7570s | up these big stats and insane on the |
| 7573s | other hand has more Decks that are kind |
| 7575s | of focused on that from hand damage or |
| 7577s | or building up a lot of that damage all |
| 7579s | in one turn there is a decent amount of |
| 7583s | damage in hand now with this uh Sif kind |
| 7586s | of waiting or the uh norganon I know |
| 7590s | subtle and Raven were talking about the |
| 7593s | maybe discrepancy in uh if players want |
| 7596s | to bring organ on or not uh we do see it |
| 7599s | here for insane but is the damage in |
| 7603s | hand going to minions |
| 7605s | something that's going to be enough to |
| 7608s | clear this board and then close out the |
| 7610s | game in the long run |
| 7612s | that's what he's trying to set up he's |
| 7613s | he's holding onto this Alibi for dear |
| 7615s | life |
| 7616s | um obviously if you're not gonna die |
| 7618s | then you don't need to Alibi and he's |
| 7620s | he's doing the calculations over and |
| 7622s | over again it can be really awkward |
| 7624s | there's so many ways that the Warlock |
| 7625s | could do smallish amounts of damage up |
| 7627s | to about 12 I'd normally argue but well |
| 7631s | I would argue it's 7 million but 12's |
| 7633s | more realistic |
| 7636s | and he's going to hold on to his health |
| 7640s | gain or his arm again and his Alibis for |
| 7642s | dear life and try and find that Sif or |
| 7645s | try to Cobble together a lethal somehow |
| 7647s | he's gonna need it soon |
| 7650s | yeah and this Forge of Wills coming down |
| 7652s | here creating just even more stats on |
| 7655s | board |
| 7656s | so many stats |
| 7660s | so many stats yeah |
| 7662s | it's a very large number of steps |
| 7665s | he is for no particular reason |
| 7672s | I think it's also very interesting the |
| 7674s | uh The Inquisitor |
| 7678s | are inquisitive uh in the mage deck here |
| 7681s | can create some board clears and I there |
| 7684s | might be potential that insane is |
| 7685s | actually just setting up for that trying |
| 7687s | to play these different spell schools |
| 7688s | use those to kind of clear off some of |
| 7691s | these stats but the Warlock certainly |
| 7693s | makes it awkward even if there is board |
| 7696s | clears because of the death rattles and |
| 7700s | the kind of repetitive board states that |
| 7703s | even if you clear these |
| 7705s | oh there's gonna be more right behind |
| 7707s | that as you mentioned earlier with |
| 7708s | things like the Slime right you have to |
| 7710s | answer the first part and the second |
| 7712s | part |
| 7714s | and is there enough damage is there |
| 7715s | enough Mana to do all of that here in |
| 7718s | that inquisitive creation does come down |
| 7719s | to close out cleaning up that board |
| 7722s | there cleaning up that second half but |
| 7725s | also now at this point sargeras here |
| 7728s | gonna be able to come down for its |
| 7729s | hansanku and just put out yet another |
| 7732s | board |
| 7733s | it is but this is sort of the beginning |
| 7736s | of the end often for the Warlock if the |
| 7738s | Mage plays a tight game |
| 7741s | where this stuff is annoying this stuff |
| 7743s | can definitely kill you yeah it's very |
| 7746s | powerful but the Mage now |
| 7750s | has a lot more control over what's going |
| 7753s | on it knows what's going to happen to it |
| 7755s | a lot of the surprises are starting to |
| 7756s | eke out |
| 7757s | and |
| 7759s | getting through that part is often the |
| 7761s | the turning point for the Mage I would |
| 7764s | make insane a decent favorite from this |
| 7766s | point on although again he still hasn't |
| 7767s | got actually any sort of semblance of |
| 7768s | lethal in hand |
| 7770s | yeah and that is definitely something |
| 7773s | that feels like the drawers just haven't |
| 7776s | maybe lined up exactly for insane yet |
| 7779s | again there has been some good draws but |
| 7782s | it's just not the the pieces that he |
| 7784s | really wants sure being able to play |
| 7786s | some of these spell schools has been |
| 7788s | great but again as you mentioned now is |
| 7790s | this a does he feel like he needs to |
| 7793s | play the uh defensive route right now to |
| 7797s | stop some of that damage with the solid |
| 7799s | Alibi that he's been holding does he |
| 7801s | just go for this Elemental inspiration |
| 7803s | which we do see him choose to do uh |
| 7806s | unfortunately on his side no rush so I'm |
| 7809s | not gonna be able to clean up any of |
| 7810s | that board there is a single taunt |
| 7812s | though so gonna slow down a little bit |
| 7814s | of the damage uh but also on the other |
| 7817s | side I'm looking at things in hand for |
| 7819s | tansanku like that Dark Khan that could |
| 7823s | also threaten quite a bit of damage from |
| 7826s | the other side as well |
| 7828s | yeah one taunt and no rush as you |
| 7831s | described there definitely got the |
| 7832s | outcome insane was hoping for |
| 7835s | um but again that's representing his own |
| 7838s | lethal now he has to actually you know |
| 7841s | this has to be dealt with it's a lot of |
| 7843s | stuff |
| 7844s | because with any sort of Chip damage in |
| 7846s | hand he just wins the game |
| 7848s | so tansoko has got a lot of damage |
| 7850s | output available but he's got to not die |
| 7852s | at the same time and now things are |
| 7854s | getting tough for him |
| 7855s | yeah and you know it's really |
| 7858s | interesting as well as we've looked |
| 7859s | through these deck lists uh this |
| 7862s | Elemental inspiration is also something |
| 7864s | that some players have in their rage |
| 7867s | lists and some don't I've seen a lot of |
| 7869s | players even debating about one |
| 7872s | elemental inspiration or bringing two |
| 7874s | and it can create a lot of pressure and |
| 7878s | a lot of board as we saw but if there is |
| 7881s | an answer for it on the other side it |
| 7882s | feels like you kind of just spent a lot |
| 7885s | of Mana to do nothing |
| 7888s | yeah |
| 7889s | well |
| 7890s | monster board once again |
| 7893s | inspiration possibly slow there is the |
| 7896s | backup plan of The Alibi here and now |
| 7898s | insane |
| 7899s | with only 14 cards in deck is into |
| 7903s | double Alibi fine sift mode and a lot of |
| 7905s | weird boxes to open starting with this |
| 7908s | planted evidence |
| 7913s | well this is an interesting choice here |
| 7915s | the volcano mancian fire sale kind of do |
| 7918s | the same thing uh the pyroblast would |
| 7921s | have been damaged but it's very |
| 7922s | expensive |
| 7924s | yeah I I did the sharp intake of air |
| 7926s | wondering if Instinct could go sort of |
| 7928s | bulked you bolt you Alibi then pyro next |
| 7930s | turn but there's enough Health gain in |
| 7932s | the other deck that that's probably a |
| 7933s | terrifying thing to do but just for a |
| 7935s | second I was getting excitable |
| 7943s | silence is interesting but doesn't feel |
| 7946s | like it does enough |
| 7948s | uh these these removal pieces just don't |
| 7951s | feel like they are quite there |
| 7954s | uh it's also kind of interesting as well |
| 7956s | considering the fact that the board is |
| 7960s | full so if uh insane can kind of just |
| 7964s | set up yeah set up the solid Alibi as |
| 7967s | you were talking about kind of saved it |
| 7968s | for this point set it up now and |
| 7972s | there's not really a lot that sunsanku |
| 7975s | can do in terms of trying to trade stuff |
| 7978s | off I guess one of the three twos can go |
| 7980s | into the the elemental on board it's |
| 7982s | just going to be re-summoned at the end |
| 7984s | of the turn if there is an empty space |
| 7987s | but these kind of big bodies that we've |
| 7990s | talked about from the Warlock in general |
| 7991s | they don't really do much against the |
| 7994s | solid alibi |
| 7996s | they do not although |
| 7998s | yeah they do enough to say that when |
| 7999s | you're out of Alibis we are going to |
| 8001s | kill you but right that's where we're at |
| 8004s | for now |
| 8005s | insane's plan now though his outs are |
| 8007s | the other Alibi a way to draw an alibi |
| 8009s | and if he gets that obviously the safe |
| 8012s | available as well in some worlds |
| 8014s | if he gets that he does get to get the |
| 8016s | metamorphosis and start pinging face as |
| 8018s | well |
| 8024s | yeah there is |
| 8026s | no additional solid Alibi in hand for |
| 8029s | insane at the moment either so |
| 8032s | this is definitely a lot of pressure a |
| 8035s | lot of threat from tonsaku and kind of |
| 8038s | putting insane in a very similar spot to |
| 8040s | where he just was of you have to kind of |
| 8043s | choose between stopping my damage or |
| 8047s | going over the top and ending the game |
| 8049s | and just in the store yeah you can you |
| 8052s | can see insane react to the draw there |
| 8053s | really not what he's looking for he |
| 8055s | wants to be trying to find the damage to |
| 8057s | close out the game Sif with these cheap |
| 8060s | spells right now would certainly do it |
| 8062s | but uh that's not what happened |
| 8065s | could hit the second Alibi and enough |
| 8067s | damage to win and then draw the Sip |
| 8068s | because the deck's been thinned out it's |
| 8070s | not a total disaster yet it might just |
| 8072s | be about to become one by the way but |
| 8074s | right at this second it's not a total |
| 8076s | disaster |
| 8084s | he's wondering where the four armor |
| 8085s | matters and I think he's come to the |
| 8087s | conclusion it doesn't |
| 8089s | I feel like I agree with |
| 8098s | yeah I think at this point the Mana is |
| 8101s | much more important trying to manage how |
| 8104s | much Mana he drives |
| 8106s | I mean eight cards left in deck |
| 8109s | that's Sif still down there but does |
| 8111s | find The Alibi |
| 8117s | oh he terrifies me how often he ropes as |
| 8119s | well by the way so close every time |
| 8122s | he's a professional at this lorenza |
| 8124s | he'll get there |
| 8126s | it has been for many years absolutely |
| 8131s | all right |
| 8142s | is there any way for |
| 8146s | tonsaku to try to |
| 8149s | I I'm stretching here try to heal up and |
| 8153s | somehow go above the the health uh cap |
| 8157s | right |
| 8160s | um |
| 8162s | do we know how big the Sith is going to |
| 8164s | be I know that the |
| 8166s | creation was doing six last time we saw |
| 8168s | so probably eights up there which is the |
| 8170s | 22 needed I wouldn't like to swear to |
| 8172s | that but |
| 8174s | insane has been collecting cards rather |
| 8176s | than playing them with the Holy and the |
| 8177s | um |
| 8178s | that fell in hand |
| 8180s | yeah |
| 8189s | tonsankou did try to give himself the |
| 8193s | most health possible there usually you |
| 8196s | want to see Reverb on kind of key |
| 8198s | Minions that you really can't you know |
| 8200s | answer any other way or something that's |
| 8203s | going to help maybe your own win |
| 8205s | condition I've seen players do that uh |
| 8208s | like reverberations on their own Sif for |
| 8210s | even more damage or something to that |
| 8213s | effect but there I think tansanku just |
| 8216s | had to kind of go for the reverberations |
| 8217s | to try to get a little bit of armor and |
| 8220s | hope that that was enough at this point |
| 8223s | to say okay I've seen both solid Alibis |
| 8225s | you still haven't killed me and I'm just |
| 8228s | gonna hope that this is enough at this |
| 8229s | point to threaten lethal on your next |
| 8232s | turn and you can't kill me what does |
| 8234s | double fire sale do here there's there's |
| 8236s | um a six six |
| 8238s | reborn and playwright that's something |
| 8241s | but it clears a lot I'm just not sure if |
| 8244s | it clears enough |
| 8245s | yeah |
| 8247s | and if he takes the star power I don't |
| 8250s | think that's enough either in can't play |
| 8253s | star power and the fire sale in hand |
| 8255s | together at this point either |
| 8267s | I guess with the discount he could but I |
| 8270s | still don't I I feel like the star power |
| 8272s | was a little bit too risky |
| 8279s | well just a six one left |
| 8283s | wow |
| 8294s | okay if Tom sanku goes for |
| 8300s | Double Summon |
| 8302s | and and hits exactly |
| 8306s | the dark on off of both |
| 8309s | it's lethal |
| 8311s | okay |
| 8313s | well |
| 8314s | maybe that's his play |
| 8317s | I mean maybe you start with one and see |
| 8320s | see what you get see what happens |
| 8328s | might as well yeah if you get it then |
| 8330s | you just go for it yeah |
| 8337s | all right he's just gonna make another |
| 8338s | big boy I mean he knows the same |
| 8339s | struggling like crazy to clear these |
| 8341s | boards so one more time yeah |
| 8345s | I have lost his stuff |
| 8349s | and still no sifter on for insane either |
| 8354s | no and this time it looks like the end |
| 8357s | does it not unless I'm missing something |
| 8359s | immense from the Elementals |
| 8379s | yeah I insane is trying to find a way |
| 8382s | out I think just as we are here |
| 8385s | I I don't see it there's a load of |
| 8388s | taunts and four or five rushes I'm not |
| 8390s | sure how many intervention needs to be |
| 8391s | but it needs to be spectacular like at |
| 8394s | least three four five Rush Oh there's a |
| 8395s | ping so two four five rushes |
| 8397s | one four five taunt that might be enough |
| 8400s | for now it might not be too disastrous |
| 8405s | it's not good but I mean I guess we yeah |
| 8408s | reverberations on the rusher to try to |
| 8411s | clear up a couple of things and as you |
| 8413s | mentioned the Ping I can clear up the |
| 8416s | reverberations but there's no ping if he |
| 8418s | goes for inspiration he didn't |
| 8420s | let's use the meta again though that's |
| 8422s | how this works |
| 8423s | right |
| 8427s | nice |
| 8428s | that's pretty cool |
| 8431s | I'd miss that |
| 8432s | forgetting you can use the hero power |
| 8434s | twice though |
| 8437s | but |
| 8438s | yeah |
| 8441s | that's it |
| 8443s | so tanzanco actually getting a win with |
| 8446s | that Warlock deck all of those early |
| 8449s | stats really paid off in the end and I |
| 8453s | think uh one big one big part of that on |
| 8455s | the other hand too was that Sif just not |
| 8458s | being found for insane really was a |
| 8461s | detriment I mean insane played to his |
| 8464s | house every time really tried to slow |
| 8466s | things down and kind of you know keep |
| 8468s | keep the board under control keep the |
| 8471s | damage that tells uncle was able to push |
| 8473s | to a minimum as much as possible but in |
| 8475s | the end it just wasn't quite enough |
| 8477s | yeah and that leaves Tom Soca with just |
| 8480s | the Rogue remaining now |
| 8483s | um his worst deck in the in the matchup |
| 8485s | I feel personally |
| 8487s | um just because what he's against insane |
| 8488s | with the outcasts that can go wide |
| 8490s | against it the Mage that can reverberate |
| 8492s | a thing and the hunter which is kind of |
| 8496s | a race but the hunter sometimes just |
| 8497s | makes 4-1 worms and gets there |
| 8500s | um so even though it's 2-0 it's not over |
| 8502s | by a long shot yet but obviously you |
| 8505s | always want to be the person who's 2-0 |
| 8507s | in front rather than the person who's |
| 8508s | two zero behind and all of those |
| 8511s | matchups well I'm saying that the Rogue |
| 8513s | isn't necessarily favored you've got |
| 8515s | three goes at it you're gonna get one |
| 8517s | most of the time |
| 8518s | yeah yeah it's very true uh we also have |
| 8521s | seen as we've been getting fed |
| 8523s | information kind of behind the scenes |
| 8525s | there have been multiple matches across |
| 8529s | our group stages that have started at |
| 8531s | this 2-0 and have gone to a game five uh |
| 8535s | so it's definitely not out of the realm |
| 8537s | of possibility here for insane uh so |
| 8539s | definitely can still show up but is |
| 8543s | there going to be a way to stop the |
| 8546s | potential big huge bodies here from this |
| 8549s | Mech Rogue as we jump into game number |
| 8552s | three ton sanku as you mentioned on that |
| 8555s | Rogue insane now actually switching over |
| 8557s | to this Demon Hunter so getting a game |
| 8560s | in on all three of his decks even though |
| 8563s | he hasn't won any games yet uh but |
| 8566s | double uh double Slither spear in hand |
| 8569s | seems like a pretty decent start |
| 8572s | yeah interesting what he kept there the |
| 8575s | I was very interested to see how he's |
| 8576s | going to go with that with the security |
| 8577s | being good at taking off Divine Shields |
| 8579s | and just generally being annoying |
| 8582s | um with the legendary ready to just win |
| 8584s | the game at a throw but he wanted even |
| 8586s | cheaper stuff so that you know we talked |
| 8589s | about it already one threes that get |
| 8591s | bigger in this case are good and the |
| 8594s | chicken is good because it makes more |
| 8595s | one ones and just goes wide I'm curious |
| 8598s | to see how long the insane just trades |
| 8600s | things off the board and |
| 8602s | how much he actually just gets a massive |
| 8604s | board with double chicken here maybe |
| 8607s | he's got a choice already to make a |
| 8608s | second Minion or just to make a two five |
| 8610s | and see if it sticks |
| 8611s | yeah |
| 8613s | I don't completely hate the coin Hawk |
| 8616s | straighter with the second hog |
| 8617s | straighter follow-up |
| 8619s | but there I guess that is that potential |
| 8623s | for some magnetic and it getting cleared |
| 8625s | yeah it's a little slow it is yes |
| 8629s | a little slow in this particular game |
| 8633s | it is and and that's what you're talking |
| 8636s | about right with the is there enough to |
| 8639s | pay off there or can he just kind of |
| 8641s | head you know hedge the BET say I'm just |
| 8644s | gonna go for it and I don't think that |
| 8646s | tan sanku is going to be able to clear |
| 8648s | this board up but it is very slow and it |
| 8651s | also means that there's no clearing of |
| 8654s | the mechs on the other side if he goes |
| 8655s | for it |
| 8657s | yes this was a tough tough call I think |
| 8660s | I would have gone the other way so I'm |
| 8662s | really really interested to see how this |
| 8663s | goes now I think I'd have gone for more |
| 8664s | bodies but worse and it was obviously a |
| 8667s | tough call if a player have been saying |
| 8668s | to caliber I mean he's roped a lot of |
| 8669s | turns but he's roping it |
| 8671s | yeah |
| 8673s | this is the punish I think here for uh |
| 8676s | for that play right it's just being able |
| 8679s | to get that huge body cleared up and now |
| 8682s | if insane goes for the second hawksrider |
| 8685s | Rancher she's kind of putting himself in |
| 8686s | that same position can't really go for |
| 8688s | it with the big Mech on the board and |
| 8690s | for tonsanku now that was that was a |
| 8694s | huge pretty clear play just being able |
| 8697s | to play the play the squirrel magnetize |
| 8700s | attack with it get a coin clear up the |
| 8703s | thing I mean one play did a lot there |
| 8706s | for tonfanku yeah I wonder if insane |
| 8709s | just took the view that he loses to that |
| 8712s | card anyway like if your opponent goes |
| 8714s | clock mistake squirrel it's over maybe |
| 8718s | he just said okay if they don't do that |
| 8720s | my Hawks dividers on the board is doing |
| 8722s | good things he's going to put me in |
| 8723s | front if they do do that well I'm |
| 8726s | probably in trouble anyway but he's got |
| 8727s | this now and suddenly with a flick of |
| 8730s | the switch he's in a fantastic position |
| 8733s | insane absolutely I mean we thought the |
| 8736s | the higher role was going to be the |
| 8737s | Warlock deck but how about High rolling |
| 8739s | some Outcast cards I I like that a |
| 8742s | little bit more |
| 8743s | yeah that's the thing |
| 8745s | um it is the Warlock deck there by the |
| 8746s | way you're never going to convince me |
| 8748s | it's not the Warlock this is this is my |
| 8750s | drum debate the entire weekend that |
| 8752s | Warlock deck no |
| 8754s | not even once kids |
| 8759s | okay can tensoka recover from this he |
| 8761s | has a lot of card drawing hand but you |
| 8763s | know currently drawing the right Mech so |
| 8765s | why would he use the card draw |
| 8767s | yeah I mean so many stats again on these |
| 8771s | bodies here now getting to play a gear |
| 8773s | shift uh only one card in hand switching |
| 8776s | out the other gear shift for another two |
| 8778s | cards there and gets to draw uh yet |
| 8781s | again so another copper tail snoot |
| 8783s | potentially to generate more but I think |
| 8786s | at this point it sounds a little bit odd |
| 8788s | but to say going into five Mana at the |
| 8791s | rate that he's gone I don't know if he |
| 8793s | necessarily needs another coin at this |
| 8795s | point uh could just start with the from |
| 8797s | the scrap Heap try to find something |
| 8799s | there but thus the stats again the stats |
| 8802s | from the copper tail suit are just |
| 8805s | fantastic and this for me is fun |
| 8808s | Hearthstone like do you want to start |
| 8809s | trading or are you just gonna race him |
| 8811s | an insane start in the engine and he is |
| 8813s | off he's gone you know what you're gonna |
| 8816s | make a massive thing as tansoka's |
| 8818s | praying for wind Fury which kind of ends |
| 8820s | these sometimes |
| 8821s | yeah I think he is at least um but I'm |
| 8823s | just gonna hit you I'm gonna make a |
| 8824s | massive whiteboard you can never clear |
| 8826s | these up and tansoka's got to make a big |
| 8829s | wind Fury thing usually to win this race |
| 8832s | from here I mean he could make a big |
| 8833s | thing that wins the race but |
| 8834s | realistically the wind view would be the |
| 8836s | thing to end it |
| 8837s | oh I mean when Fury in Max wind Fury if |
| 8842s | you can find it off of the ignis weapon |
| 8844s | when Fury just does a lot that is for |
| 8848s | sure and we did see the any storm coil |
| 8851s | in the deck earlier but did not come in |
| 8853s | hand here krabatoa still a turnout all |
| 8857s | right gonna go for that copper tail |
| 8859s | Snoop here again a lot of stats |
| 8863s | uh it's ridiculous look at it go |
| 8869s | why not go ahead give us stealth too |
| 8873s | so now insane the onus is on him to put |
| 8875s | a lot more damage on the board because |
| 8876s | he's probably Dead next turn but if he's |
| 8879s | not he has to win the turn after right |
| 8882s | ah Rush the stage is good as long as |
| 8886s | insane's not dead the next turn right |
| 8889s | yeah |
| 8891s | that's so cute |
| 8893s | russian full expressive there's a word |
| 8896s | for it I know there is I just don't know |
| 8897s | what the word is |
| 8900s | ah |
| 8905s | the mind as well this is a losers match |
| 8907s | the loser this is out of the tournament |
| 8908s | to Owen two |
| 8912s | foreign |
| 8925s | we'll just seal that up even though it's |
| 8927s | not lethal damage at the moment |
| 8930s | it's the family thought the crab's |
| 8931s | lethal anyway right yeah and you can |
| 8934s | just see kind of the devastation on |
| 8936s | insane's face there this is absolutely |
| 8938s | not the position that he wanted to be in |
| 8940s | but the celebration on the other side |
| 8943s | there it is the 3-0 Lorinda |
| 8948s | looking good and yeah it was very close |
| 8950s | to getting through his first match as |
| 8952s | well so he'll he'll be fairly confident |
| 8953s | going through to tomorrow insane we're |
| 8956s | going to see this a lot I'm going to say |
| 8957s | it this time and hopefully not too many |
| 8959s | other times the players have played |
| 8961s | three months of a ladder to get here |
| 8963s | insane Krypton at the bottom I think in |
| 8965s | the bottom place it might be one above |
| 8967s | that I don't want to give him an |
| 8968s | injustice but a lot of pressure on the |
| 8970s | final day for insane to get into this |
| 8972s | tournament and it's absolutely |
| 8974s | devastating knowing that |
| 8975s | someone of insane's caliber will be |
| 8978s | going for it again and three more months |
| 8980s | of that pressure it does not stop for |
| 8982s | the people who don't win this tournament |
| 8984s | and yeah you're not just trying to win |
| 8986s | the tournament I said it last time |
| 8987s | around you're trying to win three months |
| 8989s | of your life at the same time so |
| 8991s | yeah we're going to see a lot of |
| 8992s | devastated players this weekend |
| 8994s | yeah absolutely and you know |
| 8996s | unfortunately that is just the name of |
| 8999s | the game sometimes but it's it is always |
| 9002s | sad to see it especially when as you |
| 9004s | mentioned it it does feel like it took |
| 9006s | so much work for these players to get to |
| 9009s | this point and then to just kind of see |
| 9011s | it end so quickly absolutely not what |
| 9014s | these players are hoping for but it's |
| 9016s | only the second game of our first day |
| 9019s | here so there is still a ton more that |
| 9022s | we have I don't know how excited you are |
| 9024s | for these but that is there's the replay |
| 9030s | here |
| 9031s | uh yeah even though insane was able to |
| 9034s | get on board |
| 9036s | I don't know there was just not much he |
| 9039s | could do there versus the gigantic Mech |
| 9042s | yeah I'm you watch how excited I'm |
| 9044s | always excited for these tournaments |
| 9046s | that is not an act sometimes I'm not |
| 9048s | excited to play on a given day of a |
| 9050s | given week and that might give me a |
| 9052s | reputation being a little bit sad about |
| 9054s | the game or whatever I play seven days a |
| 9056s | week it's a lot of playing but when |
| 9058s | these big tournaments come around with |
| 9059s | these big players with matters we |
| 9060s | haven't seen played at high levels |
| 9062s | before I'm always up for it and yeah |
| 9065s | this was |
| 9066s | not the most exciting match ever but |
| 9069s | still we're seeing |
| 9070s | um tonsoka bringing the Warlock deck |
| 9072s | which you know I'm meaning a bit |
| 9075s | um but |
| 9076s | good to see him getting through there |
| 9077s | looks like the lineup's a good one and |
| 9079s | again he only lost 3-2 in the first |
| 9081s | match as well so it's looking good |
| 9084s | yeah absolutely uh it was definitely |
| 9086s | very interesting of a series I |
| 9089s | personally really liked the uh Mage |
| 9092s | versus warlock game I thought that was a |
| 9094s | pretty intense game and it was really |
| 9096s | cool to kind of see that back and forth |
| 9098s | so uh as we you know kind of saw there |
| 9102s | was a bit more back and forth I think in |
| 9104s | that one than some of the other games |
| 9106s | that we certainly have seen uh but it |
| 9108s | sounds like we are going to be jumping |
| 9110s | into another match |
| 9114s | oh excellent I think it's gonna be wreck |
| 9116s | van and mcbander face if I heard |
| 9117s | correctly and we're going to go into |
| 9118s | game four of that I'll try and find out |
| 9120s | who is two one up so yeah a little bit |
| 9122s | additional content which is good we want |
| 9123s | to see as many people as many times as |
| 9125s | we can today |
| 9127s | and something that I know that |
| 9129s | everybody's worked hard on is getting to |
| 9131s | try and see all 16 players it'll end up |
| 9133s | as 13 or 14 most likely |
| 9136s | um but I put a lot of time and they |
| 9138s | deserve to be shown so hopefully we get |
| 9140s | to see a little bit of this match |
| 9142s | so you can find out what the score is |
| 9144s | for you absolutely yeah it does look |
| 9146s | like it is 2-1 uh in recfam's favor |
| 9149s | there and this is from our group d |
| 9155s | I'm not sure he's another loser's match |
| 9157s | so banterface |
| 9159s | on the edge another zero two elimination |
| 9162s | [Music] |
| 9164s | um one of I'd say possibly the most |
| 9166s | prolific streamer now maybe meaty takes |
| 9169s | that I think banterface is the most |
| 9170s | regular of all of these top players |
| 9173s | um incredible patience incredible player |
| 9176s | to listen to talk about the game and I |
| 9179s | mean I'd like to say I'd love to see him |
| 9181s | go through and win it but I don't want |
| 9182s | to Rude against Rick van either because |
| 9183s | he's another person who puts a lot of |
| 9185s | heart and soul into the game as well so |
| 9187s | we'll just watch it and see what happens |
| 9189s | that's the actual amazing thing we have |
| 9192s | going for us |
| 9193s | and that's you know that's one of the |
| 9195s | tough things when we have these kind of |
| 9197s | smaller brackets of players right we |
| 9199s | have this High Caliber and it's |
| 9201s | difficult sometimes to decide who you |
| 9203s | want to root for uh as a Caster I |
| 9205s | usually try to stay impartial but if we |
| 9208s | do see mcvanter go zero two I definitely |
| 9211s | will be a little bit uh bummed out for |
| 9214s | sure I would absolutely love to see him |
| 9215s | at least try for that you know uh |
| 9219s | winners decider match in the bracket and |
| 9222s | not just go uh zero two |
| 9224s | I don't claim to always be in partial |
| 9226s | but I will tell you when I'm not is my |
| 9229s | answer to that it's um you know if you |
| 9231s | get somebody who I really like versus |
| 9232s | somebody I don't know too well there's a |
| 9234s | good chance I will let you know that I'm |
| 9236s | rooting for one of the players but I |
| 9237s | will cast it in partially to the best of |
| 9239s | my ability but sometimes I can't help |
| 9241s | but have you know a sneaky favorite but |
| 9243s | this one |
| 9244s | I don't want either of these to go out |
| 9245s | there and two and one of them's going to |
| 9248s | um there's times for memeing your |
| 9249s | favorite players this isn't one of them |
| 9251s | this is actually as I just described a |
| 9252s | moment ago a horrific time to go out of |
| 9255s | this tournament |
| 9256s | yeah absolutely uh |
| 9259s | well it does sound like we are actually |
| 9263s | going to go to a quick break as that |
| 9265s | game looks like it actually is ending so |
| 9268s | unfortunately we don't get to see that |
| 9270s | but we did get to talk about it a little |
| 9272s | bit and when we get back from a break we |
| 9275s | will keep everyone up to date on our |
| 9277s | brackets and how these groups are facing |
| 9280s | down so please don't go anywhere we will |
| 9282s | be right back |
| 9291s | [Music] |
| 9303s | thank you |
| 9305s | [Music] |
| 9316s | thank you |
| 9317s | [Music] |
| 9321s | [Applause] |
| 9326s | [Music] |
| 9352s | thank you |
| 9353s | [Music] |
| 9389s | thank you |
| 9392s | stupid |
| 9401s | [Music] |
| 9406s | [Music] |
| 9420s | [Music] |
| 9430s | tonight |
| 9432s | [Music] |
| 9441s | [Music] |
| 9463s | it |
| 9466s | is |
| 9484s | [Music] |
| 9497s | [Music] |
| 9507s | thank you |
| 9517s | [Music] |
| 9527s | [Music] |
| 9534s | foreign |
| 9540s | [Music] |
| 9547s | [Music] |
| 9555s | [Music] |
| 9575s | foreign |
| 9580s | [Music] |
| 9597s | [Music] |
| 9609s | foreign |
| 9611s | [Music] |
| 9621s | hello everybody and welcome back to the |
| 9623s | Masters Tour summer Championship my name |
| 9625s | is TJ and I'm joined by the one the only |
| 9627s | Neil Lorinda Bond at laurindigames on |
| 9630s | Twitter don't forget to follow and learn |
| 9631s | how you doing today buddy I'm doing good |
| 9633s | I'm doing good |
| 9634s | um always am on these tournaments TJ oh |
| 9636s | you've got the flamingos I'll have to |
| 9638s | sort out in a moment as well uh it's |
| 9639s | Flamingo Friday on Saturday but it's |
| 9642s | always something to go Friday even if |
| 9643s | it's a Saturday day one it's always |
| 9645s | Friday and these Fridays always get me |
| 9647s | energized I absolutely love to see how |
| 9650s | these things pan out especially in |
| 9651s | recent years where it's always a new ish |
| 9654s | meta to to work with and I mean this |
| 9657s | match is what 15 days old and still |
| 9659s | evolving people haven't made perfect 30s |
| 9661s | for most of these yet I don't think so |
| 9663s | yeah let's see how it goes and see we |
| 9665s | have perfect 30s by the end of the |
| 9666s | weekend |
| 9668s | well if they have perfect 30s by the end |
| 9670s | of the weekend then maybe for not |
| 9672s | because they're good some of these eggs |
| 9674s | are gonna change next week |
| 9676s | these kinds of I always like to see |
| 9679s | these kinds of meta games right we do |
| 9681s | have balance changes looming but seeing |
| 9684s | sort of these players masteries of the |
| 9687s | current meta game before it has the |
| 9689s | potential to switch it is always really |
| 9691s | cool because |
| 9693s | um you know that it it sort of tests |
| 9695s | their knowledge and their ability to |
| 9697s | play these decks in a vacuum |
| 9699s | and I think that's a sign of a good |
| 9701s | Hearthstone player |
| 9702s | um but we're uh sort of moving along |
| 9705s | here with the the tournament today we |
| 9707s | kind of have matches going on all over |
| 9709s | the place we're picking and choosing |
| 9711s | which ones we can jump into based on |
| 9713s | which ones are ready for us uh basically |
| 9715s | and for the time being so for group a we |
| 9719s | do have the uh winners match for group a |
| 9721s | you saw there uh media versus Wiki for |
| 9724s | Group B you versus gamer RBG redmen got |
| 9727s | eliminated by Casey uh down there at the |
| 9730s | bottom |
| 9731s | so |
| 9733s | um maybe this is the tournament of the |
| 9735s | rise of the Americas because I'm seeing |
| 9737s | a lot of America's names up there in |
| 9739s | these winners matches you can't just say |
| 9742s | that TJ we've been through this you're |
| 9745s | not allowed to say it I was looking at |
| 9747s | guys I think no way TJ says it yeah we |
| 9750s | go well because I'm I am American no not |
| 9752s | many people know this but I definitely |
| 9753s | am |
| 9754s | yeah we're going to ignore that specific |
| 9757s | group right there in the rise of the |
| 9761s | Americas storyline with mcbanderface |
| 9763s | losing to Requiem being eliminated from |
| 9765s | the tournament but |
| 9767s | uh you know I I'm I'm feeling it I've |
| 9770s | been you know what Neil I've been |
| 9771s | casting HearthStone for nine years |
| 9774s | that's right nine years |
| 9777s | and you know what I've learned |
| 9779s | fiber |
| 9786s | um is that I've never cursed anything by |
| 9788s | saying it out loud in nine years of |
| 9790s | casting I'm shooting I've cursed me a |
| 9792s | few times maybe under your breath |
| 9795s | on broadcast I've never cursed you or |
| 9798s | cursed at you |
| 9799s | um actually I don't think is that true |
| 9801s | that doesn't sound like a thing that's |
| 9803s | true TJ well you can't remember either |
| 9806s | way but speaking of the rise of the |
| 9808s | Americas Neil we got another match |
| 9811s | coming up it's pocket train versus dredi |
| 9815s | um and this should be a good one |
| 9817s | um Jedi obviously has a history with in |
| 9821s | America's Hearthstone |
| 9823s | um but now that sort of the the Grand |
| 9825s | Master System has gone away I feel like |
| 9828s | now we're sort of seeing the real Jedi |
| 9830s | we're starting to see his work pay off a |
| 9831s | little bit more because throughout his |
| 9832s | seasons of grand Masters he had some |
| 9834s | very good Seasons very some uh like |
| 9837s | highlights |
| 9839s | um but it feels like the dread eye of |
| 9841s | today |
| 9842s | is an even better player and pocket |
| 9844s | train is |
| 9847s | insane yeah an insane Hearthstone player |
| 9850s | so this should be a good one yeah we've |
| 9852s | done the first and we're now doing the |
| 9853s | insane well yeah pocket train all the |
| 9855s | way up there um for the year's points |
| 9857s | and weak you up there with him I think |
| 9860s | but I haven't checked the numbers |
| 9862s | um I'm gonna take his word for it he is |
| 9864s | very very likely to get to the World |
| 9867s | Championships based on points over the |
| 9869s | years that's what that means not just |
| 9871s | the points of this season |
| 9872s | and with that in mind |
| 9875s | he's brought the the Naga mage |
| 9878s | also refers to pocket train of decks |
| 9881s | right |
| 9882s | yeah I'd say so and uh you know one of |
| 9885s | the slangs we use here uh at the Masters |
| 9887s | tours for the Naga Mage is Outcast Demon |
| 9890s | Hunter |
| 9891s | um it's just just a little slang that we |
| 9893s | use for it uh don't worry about it |
| 9897s | um but yeah this is a very high skill |
| 9899s | cap deck pocket train is known over the |
| 9901s | years for playing these very high skill |
| 9903s | cap Decks that require |
| 9906s | significant practice significant game |
| 9908s | knowledge and the ability to think and |
| 9912s | act quickly because that's what the |
| 9915s | knock Mage is all about |
| 9918s | um and I'm kind of I'm I don't know if |
| 9921s | I'm happy that it made it come back |
| 9922s | against good players playing playing |
| 9924s | against a good player on Naga mage |
| 9927s | sometimes it feels like you can't even |
| 9928s | do anything like you're just sitting |
| 9930s | there watching their turns |
| 9932s | you know the the full 90 seconds or |
| 9935s | whatever it is |
| 9937s | and you don't really have anything |
| 9941s | I feel like he's younger than Gabby now |
| 9945s | he's never taken him in age |
| 9948s | well I've learned one thing over the |
| 9950s | course of the years is that when you're |
| 9952s | a young lad from the English Countryside |
| 9954s | you don't age |
| 9956s | yep that's true that can confirm right |
| 9959s | it's red eye a little bit before we went |
| 9962s | into this right TJ um you said that he's |
| 9963s | developed a lot more since he was in GM |
| 9965s | and I think that what's changed in my |
| 9968s | opinion is his breadth of knowledge he's |
| 9970s | always been very good but before I |
| 9973s | always felt he was a little bit Limited |
| 9974s | in his options whereas now I feel that |
| 9975s | he can play any |
| 9978s | yeah and that I I look back at his time |
| 9983s | in Grand Masters quite fondly because |
| 9985s | Jedi was one of the players that |
| 9988s | um week after week |
| 9989s | continued to try and break the metagame |
| 9993s | um he never sort of went with the grain |
| 9995s | he always went against it |
| 9997s | um and that that was you know what won |
| 10002s | him a lot of games is just line up |
| 10004s | superiority |
| 10005s | and I think you're right sort of his |
| 10007s | breadth of knowledge of different decks |
| 10008s | and different matchups he was able to |
| 10011s | get there on deck building and strategy |
| 10015s | um but now I feel like he's he's able to |
| 10019s | stand up in gameplay as well and that's |
| 10022s | a scary thing so |
| 10024s | um there we go Flamingo Friday |
| 10026s | deals got it on yep found it just dug it |
| 10030s | up |
| 10032s | Ali got me this for the event she was |
| 10034s | like why is everybody's got flamingos |
| 10035s | and you haven't I was like well |
| 10037s | I don't have flamingos she goes well |
| 10039s | here's a hat with flamingos on it wear |
| 10041s | it |
| 10042s | I mean go Friday |
| 10044s | so Bingo Friday it'd probably be easier |
| 10047s | to get a shirt |
| 10048s | I mean it would be the I have a hat tj8 |
| 10052s | it has no buttons on it I can't wear it |
| 10053s | as a shirt it's |
| 10057s | yeah I'm I'm sad at this I've done my |
| 10060s | best all right I've tried to fit in and |
| 10063s | you've just stopped it happening |
| 10066s | I had a flamingo do you remember I |
| 10068s | bought the inflatable flamingo in for |
| 10069s | you once as well and you just yeah |
| 10074s | I don't get it |
| 10076s | this is now two separate attempts to fit |
| 10078s | in with the flamingo crew and honestly |
| 10081s | when I got my Flamenco shirt it was |
| 10083s | completely accidental that's how common |
| 10085s | Flamingo shirts are is you can just walk |
| 10088s | into a store and when you leave even if |
| 10090s | you didn't purchase a flamingo shirt if |
| 10092s | one was in the store it will be with you |
| 10094s | on your person |
| 10097s | um and yet you've gone to Great Lengths |
| 10098s | to try and fit in by getting things that |
| 10101s | are harder to get like an inflatable |
| 10102s | Flamingo and a flamingo hat but alas |
| 10106s | we've reached this point Neil and |
| 10107s | there's no turning back pocket train |
| 10109s | versus dread Eye game number one |
| 10112s | yeah and I'm excited I'm excited to see |
| 10115s | pocket train pilot this deck we saw it |
| 10117s | earlier today but this is pocket train |
| 10119s | he's he's just good at these decks he's |
| 10122s | just gonna pretend it's bore priest and |
| 10124s | win that's what he's gonna do on turn |
| 10126s | two |
| 10127s | because you always win with ball priest |
| 10128s | on turn two I remember that clearly |
| 10133s | yep |
| 10135s | in or around turn two |
| 10139s | yeah |
| 10140s | we call this a hand TJ |
| 10144s | yeah pocket train |
| 10146s | also a hand I feel yeah if you have a if |
| 10151s | you have a siren Naga Mage has a hand |
| 10153s | like that's it |
| 10156s | um and they can always make stuff happen |
| 10158s | so uh second fast wisdom finds molten |
| 10162s | Rune and uh the rewind uh now the molten |
| 10166s | Rune I think is just |
| 10168s | having a discount on the molten route at |
| 10169s | all is fantastic because it doubles up |
| 10171s | on the set of spell damage allows you to |
| 10173s | find lethals sooner or sooner in the |
| 10175s | game |
| 10178s | um |
| 10181s | you probably hold on to this objection |
| 10183s | right just a cheap spell in hand yeah |
| 10185s | there's no other cheap spells |
| 10188s | I had the pleasure of watching subtle |
| 10190s | play test is now good at it was great he |
| 10192s | just didn't draw the siren for like 2 |
| 10194s | 000 games in a row it was the funniest |
| 10196s | thing I've ever seen by the way I |
| 10199s | recommend drawing your Scion if you want |
| 10200s | to win with this now okay |
| 10205s | one thing it did show that like joking |
| 10207s | aside I mean it is what happened but he |
| 10208s | still makes his survive incredible |
| 10210s | amounts of time with a deck even with |
| 10212s | the bad draws so it definitely has |
| 10213s | versatility when you do it but you do |
| 10215s | have to eventually draw it |
| 10218s | yeah the thing about the rainbow Mage |
| 10220s | though is if you let them have Tempo in |
| 10223s | any other game and they get in that chip |
| 10224s | damage it doesn't matter how powerful |
| 10227s | your pop-up turns are because that just |
| 10229s | makes their kill with Sif that that much |
| 10232s | easier sometimes you don't even need to |
| 10233s | sit sometimes if you have enough minion |
| 10235s | stick on the board and you get all that |
| 10237s | chip damage in just having you know a |
| 10239s | couple of Arcane bolts and a moon Rune |
| 10242s | on turn Eight is Enough to finish the |
| 10243s | game so |
| 10245s | um |
| 10246s | oh this is actually a tough decision uh |
| 10250s | I think blizzard can be quite good uh |
| 10253s | for when there's a siren pop-up turn to |
| 10255s | block all the nagas from being able to |
| 10257s | attack face the next turn |
| 10259s | um |
| 10260s | uh but already played a frost Bell so it |
| 10263s | doesn't really need that for |
| 10265s | uh the creation uh it's a couple turns |
| 10268s | away oh okay it's the because it's the |
| 10271s | infinitized that maxitudes the discount |
| 10272s | so Ken played as early as next turn if |
| 10274s | anything |
| 10276s | just to stop a little bit of the board |
| 10278s | and get the uh the keyboard minion |
| 10280s | summoned |
| 10282s | yeah it's underrated just just getting |
| 10285s | the 2-2 just getting the pieces together |
| 10287s | come on he's going |
| 10289s | Naga spell |
| 10291s | your turn |
| 10297s | yeah that is down what |
| 10301s | you've got to get into the the beat of |
| 10303s | the Naga and the spell |
| 10305s | I've I learned a long time ago to just |
| 10307s | about it just let it happen |
| 10310s | I tried not worrying about it and I |
| 10312s | ended up going Naga Naga Naga concede |
| 10317s | so I have to worry about it |
| 10319s | I played Finley's no it's spell |
| 10331s | similar but different |
| 10333s | yeah Finley has legs being the |
| 10336s | difference right |
| 10338s | um |
| 10339s | ah yeah you're right somebody was |
| 10342s | telling me that is a defining quality of |
| 10344s | a Naga is no likes |
| 10347s | a sushi tail |
| 10348s | and this is where the blizzard comes in |
| 10351s | I feel |
| 10354s | or the creation how many spell schools |
| 10356s | are there it's been Frost |
| 10360s | uh |
| 10362s | first |
| 10367s | haven't used a bolt |
| 10369s | is it just first |
| 10371s | might just be frost actually infinite |
| 10374s | eyes hasn't got a school |
| 10378s | yeah he's just fast |
| 10385s | I mean it's just bumping off the two |
| 10387s | five and the four one and just taking it |
| 10389s | isn't he |
| 10397s | like he knows pocketones hand is just a |
| 10398s | collection of cards |
| 10401s | from Finley |
| 10404s | okay so that's Arcane so now we do have |
| 10406s | a yeah I guess this is a better clear I |
| 10408s | just wanted the five five nope it's not |
| 10410s | going for the creation okay |
| 10420s | yeah |
| 10422s | suddenly the bullet doesn't do anything |
| 10423s | and he still has the blizzard left for |
| 10425s | for round two |
| 10434s | yeah |
| 10436s | I suppose |
| 10444s | surprise in my radiance |
| 10448s | I explained to the objection there oh he |
| 10450s | also we didn't see the secret icon but |
| 10452s | he was also worried about a potential |
| 10454s | counter spell if he had blizzard got it |
| 10457s | um so that was probably the reason why |
| 10460s | he went for that play because if he just |
| 10461s | blizzards and it's counter spell |
| 10464s | what do you do you left a siren on the |
| 10466s | board with a full board |
| 10468s | yeah yeah you're gonna die he could well |
| 10471s | he could have killed the siren with the |
| 10472s | minions on board but then he would have |
| 10473s | left up everything else |
| 10474s | so I think he wanted to play into that |
| 10476s | and then after that turn he |
| 10478s | uh knew that it was like uh explosive |
| 10481s | runes |
| 10483s | um or objection and so was able to just |
| 10486s | get the nice clear |
| 10487s | uh with the creation so now we have four |
| 10490s | five |
| 10498s | okay not too shabby also as a mark of |
| 10500s | the wild with a a win Fury element on |
| 10503s | board so |
| 10506s | if that's not dealt with starting to |
| 10508s | look at a lot of damage Arcane bolt is |
| 10509s | now Mana thirsted can find some |
| 10511s | additional damage with infinitage the |
| 10514s | maxitude |
| 10515s | we saw a subtle earlier explaining the |
| 10518s | one single signal that Gabby gave well |
| 10520s | pocket train just gave that you've only |
| 10522s | got one in your deck for this Elemental |
| 10523s | inspiration there |
| 10524s | because I just checked the dentist |
| 10525s | doesn't have the one |
| 10528s | yeah |
| 10529s | they can get quite bulky if you have the |
| 10532s | two of them |
| 10534s | a lot of times all you need is one and |
| 10540s | it's not like such a key card where you |
| 10542s | want to put in two just for the |
| 10544s | consistency of draw you know |
| 10546s | gotta make cut somewhere |
| 10550s | oh I'll just play venathol and you can |
| 10552s | play all the cards you want and just |
| 10553s | draw what you need anyway |
| 10555s | you've considered that |
| 10557s | nope |
| 10559s | I have |
| 10561s | never played a run Club deck in my life |
| 10563s | this way best way that's why you're my |
| 10566s | friend TJ |
| 10569s | uh five that looks good |
| 10572s | yup |
| 10575s | launched here on Campbell infinites and |
| 10577s | Max 2 perhaps |
| 10581s | yeah why not anyway |
| 10583s | but oops |
| 10585s | no boat for sure that makes it easier |
| 10587s | not harder that's what we wanted really |
| 10588s | all along |
| 10591s | yep |
| 10592s | we just didn't know it oh |
| 10598s | well okay yeah it's just burned I was |
| 10601s | like sunwell is very fun especially with |
| 10604s | a discount |
| 10606s | get a lot of spell schools |
| 10610s | it is a lot of spell skills |
| 10614s | everyone Choice was just playing some |
| 10615s | well though |
| 10618s | rumor has it it's not actually that good |
| 10620s | usually except remember has it who's |
| 10623s | spreading these dirty rumors you know |
| 10625s | what I mean |
| 10629s | it's just hard certain players they |
| 10630s | spread rumors they start off they like |
| 10631s | something and then next week you play it |
| 10633s | and they say they don't like it sort of |
| 10635s | like Flamingo hats you know |
| 10637s | yeah you try and fit in but you're |
| 10638s | always one week behind trying to catch |
| 10640s | up look at me playing my son well ah |
| 10642s | that was last week's card you shouldn't |
| 10644s | be playing that now you idiot it's like |
| 10645s | that doesn't even make any sense because |
| 10647s | we've been catching up the whole time |
| 10649s | we've never done anything different |
| 10653s | oh this is a cool clear |
| 10656s | uh actually it's |
| 10660s | um |
| 10661s | not a clear |
| 10668s | at all |
| 10671s | in fact it's the same amount of power |
| 10675s | I was like oh this is cool fancy play to |
| 10678s | get get some damage off the board |
| 10681s | no damage off the board |
| 10683s | start the turn with eight power ends the |
| 10685s | turn with a power that'll be Jedi taking |
| 10687s | game number one |
| 10689s | um didn't actually need to sip there but |
| 10693s | go with a little bit of style laying the |
| 10695s | Sip off the top so |
| 10697s | uh just not able to get the recurring |
| 10702s | uh pop-up turns from pocket trade it's |
| 10705s | the first siren was dealt with like the |
| 10707s | way that dread eye uh played around the |
| 10709s | secrets there |
| 10711s | uh that we were slightly confused about |
| 10713s | because we couldn't see the secret icon |
| 10716s | um later on counter spell and then play |
| 10718s | around objection very well to uh sort of |
| 10721s | clean things up so nicely done |
| 10724s | yeah it takes the one at zero and pocket |
| 10727s | China I thought would be unstoppable on |
| 10729s | this deck because so far been stopped at |
| 10732s | the signal or the junction or what where |
| 10734s | the train stop |
| 10736s | the buffers the station here |
| 10739s | he's at the station yet to pull out of |
| 10741s | the station pocket train on this deck |
| 10745s | we got there thanks TJ |
| 10746s | yeah except your technology changed |
| 10748s | halfway through because you're talking |
| 10749s | about where they stop but the station is |
| 10752s | where they stopped naturally |
| 10754s | so in the wild like you you watched |
| 10758s | David Attenborough here's the train |
| 10760s | naturally stopping at the station yeah |
| 10763s | so if if a train naturally stopped at |
| 10765s | the station it did its job |
| 10767s | so the beginning of the analogy pretty |
| 10770s | poor but you brought it home you brought |
| 10773s | it home by system by changing the |
| 10775s | analogy to it hasn't left the station |
| 10778s | yet which as we all know part of a |
| 10780s | train's job after it stops the station |
| 10783s | was then Philip on passengers and |
| 10785s | proceeds to leave the station |
| 10787s | so if it doesn't work unnaturally in the |
| 10790s | middle of the tracks |
| 10792s | actually let's let's put it this way |
| 10794s | anywhere but the station |
| 10797s | anywhere else is an unnatural train |
| 10800s | stoppage okay so this one we're not sure |
| 10802s | about at the moment but that felt like |
| 10804s | an unnatural train stoppage so it wasn't |
| 10806s | at the station yeah Parker train left |
| 10809s | the station got about three quarters of |
| 10812s | the way to the next station |
| 10814s | and then stop destination |
| 10817s | station |
| 10819s | yep so there we go settled on the |
| 10822s | analogy he's gonna we finally worked out |
| 10825s | the analogy and they still haven't |
| 10826s | finished the Mulligan phase look at us |
| 10827s | getting quicker yeah |
| 10831s | we've come a long way TJ we've come a |
| 10833s | long way |
| 10836s | squirrel double squirrel |
| 10838s | double one syllable card into clocker oh |
| 10841s | my goodness let's get good quick |
| 10844s | so pocket Train's hand can get good |
| 10846s | quick as well |
| 10850s | do you ever want a coin here |
| 10853s | um shoot a thing play a thing |
| 10855s | I want a big thing I want to coin the |
| 10857s | coin the coiler |
| 10862s | he didn't like that whatever it was like |
| 10865s | sure |
| 10867s | oh |
| 10881s | kill the thing yeah kill it with your |
| 10883s | fiery Mage spells and your fire image |
| 10885s | hero power |
| 10886s | yep |
| 10893s | so my instinct here is always played a |
| 10895s | stealth so I'll be interested just goes |
| 10897s | a different way |
| 10898s | um I think you do go a different way I |
| 10900s | think the stealth is important post |
| 10904s | Mac right |
| 10907s | um because what's the likelihood that |
| 10909s | you play a Mech and pocket train deals |
| 10911s | with it on that turn |
| 10913s | on turn three sure |
| 10916s | um |
| 10919s | I suppose |
| 10922s | I just wanted to get a coin because my |
| 10924s | hand is so terrifying |
| 10928s | yeah this is tough because ideally |
| 10931s | you you'd play another Mac have a chance |
| 10935s | to attack with it then stealth it so |
| 10937s | you're guaranteed a Mech on the |
| 10938s | following turn right |
| 10941s | um |
| 10942s | so you're guaranteed Max two turns from |
| 10944s | now |
| 10946s | but it might be more important for Jedi |
| 10947s | in this instance to guarantee a Mech for |
| 10949s | this turn just because of the fact that |
| 10951s | he does have the two snoops |
| 10953s | but it's gonna play the bigger squirrel |
| 10955s | for health hard to deal with and I this |
| 10958s | is sort of the ideal situation yeah |
| 10961s | nailed nailed it |
| 10964s | get light show yeah Pockets look at him |
| 10967s | he knows what he's done |
| 10972s | do you hold one in four |
| 10979s | something else about Jedi actually he |
| 10980s | was always reasonably relaxed but he |
| 10982s | looks so much more relaxed these days |
| 10983s | than he's on gym like he's |
| 10985s | obviously hating it inside I feel like |
| 10988s | he's always been like that he just has |
| 10990s | this genuine love for the game |
| 10992s | and honestly most of the players that |
| 10994s | are you know still competing at a high |
| 10995s | level have that genuine Love of the Game |
| 10998s | true actually because there's |
| 11001s | you know still a big big prize pool for |
| 11004s | like World Championship world |
| 11005s | championship and stuff but throughout |
| 11007s | the year less tournaments so you gotta |
| 11011s | you gotta have that that love that Joy |
| 11017s | you're bringing out the the true Jedi |
| 11019s | passion The Passion of all of them in |
| 11020s | fact |
| 11021s | yeah |
| 11023s | I like the left one yeah that's what I'd |
| 11025s | have taken too |
| 11029s | or bone Spike everything do it just just |
| 11033s | dump the things everywhere |
| 11036s | I don't know about that |
| 11038s | okay |
| 11040s | I think you magnetized first and see |
| 11042s | what you get oh I want a pet mouse bike |
| 11045s | it's so much fun |
| 11052s | it's much more difficult to uh recognize |
| 11056s | these when they're golden |
| 11058s | it is I don't play with golden cards |
| 11060s | yeah |
| 11062s | please let me I want to do it thanks |
| 11067s | ordering worked pretty well there yep |
| 11072s | okay pocket trains not enjoying this |
| 11074s | moment strangely enough |
| 11081s | don't want to see a coolant |
| 11086s | but this is a lethal setup |
| 11095s | not anymore |
| 11099s | just cards |
| 11100s | cards what's your cards slinging around |
| 11104s | oh here we go |
| 11107s | the Reverb |
| 11109s | infinite Mana |
| 11112s | infinite amount of infinite Tom |
| 11121s | we're not even seeing these spells I I |
| 11125s | can't wait to try this on that I'm gonna |
| 11126s | have such a disaster |
| 11128s | look at it go |
| 11130s | I feel like he's if I played this many |
| 11132s | spells it'd have taken me three turns |
| 11142s | middle one |
| 11146s | innervate you don't need anymore Mana |
| 11149s | infinitizen maxitude just needs a freeze |
| 11153s | or something |
| 11156s | or an alibi oh vengeful Visage needs um |
| 11160s | it doesn't have board space |
| 11163s | ah okay |
| 11168s | is it it's not lethal what's happened |
| 11172s | and it's not a Mech |
| 11174s | foreign |
| 11181s | he's going to test for counterspell |
| 11184s | he's going to be very confused as to |
| 11186s | what this secret is unless he rushes it |
| 11189s | to a minion first oh no |
| 11192s | not objection |
| 11196s | he's gonna be so confused okay yeah he's |
| 11199s | gonna attack first yeah |
| 11206s | the face of someone who thinks they know |
| 11208s | what's happening and probably does |
| 11211s | yeah he's gonna leave the sirens up or |
| 11214s | not I was thinking he's just gonna take |
| 11216s | the most power off the board possible |
| 11218s | he does have to |
| 11223s | okay |
| 11224s | I just assumed the position of someone |
| 11227s | who's about to have another pop-off turn |
| 11230s | yep |
| 11236s | I have no idea |
| 11240s | how many spell schools have been cast |
| 11242s | we have arcane |
| 11244s | uh Frost |
| 11246s | fire |
| 11247s | okay that's it nature |
| 11254s | was that five |
| 11256s | uh first I came fire nature that's four |
| 11259s | I think |
| 11260s | oh five damage there's always more than |
| 11262s | you think though it's gonna be more than |
| 11263s | four oh six damage yeah there you go |
| 11267s | yeah perfect clear perfect manualization |
| 11269s | perfect clear siren stays on the board |
| 11271s | Jedi's got a handful of coins draws a |
| 11274s | click Locker |
| 11277s | that's not good |
| 11281s | he's got three turns |
| 11286s | and memorize gone |
| 11298s | so it's like krabatoa |
| 11302s | yeah or anything with stealth but soon |
| 11305s | yeah buddy yeah he has like one turn |
| 11310s | I don't think he can afford to stealth |
| 11312s | he's he can take this turn and survive |
| 11315s | but he's gonna die the next turn with |
| 11318s | nothing to defend himself so |
| 11323s | meanwhile here's some nagas |
| 11330s | can you find a way to get like um an ice |
| 11332s | barrier or something here it's the sort |
| 11335s | of card he wants right |
| 11340s | is that the forge something and get a |
| 11342s | copy of it card |
| 11344s | I want to say yes but the the elemental |
| 11348s | thing |
| 11349s | yeah |
| 11353s | reduce the cosplay it's on fire no I'm |
| 11356s | pretty sure it's whenever when you forge |
| 11357s | a card get a copy of it oh okay |
| 11362s | there you go yeah this is why I don't |
| 11364s | talk it's why TJ knows the cards |
| 11371s | Mothership |
| 11377s | me might as well just Mothership into |
| 11379s | the 4-3 |
| 11380s | yeah I mean you don't know the player |
| 11382s | you might as well find out what's |
| 11386s | yeah and then maybe there's no direct |
| 11389s | image |
| 11403s | needs three damage |
| 11411s | uh |
| 11418s | give him another turn |
| 11420s | I want you to decide a Finley though is |
| 11422s | that a Zona that is a Zona right he had |
| 11424s | no board space he's a little Finley you |
| 11426s | can't play the can't play the fin point |
| 11428s | yeah oh my bad |
| 11432s | oh |
| 11433s | one damage off |
| 11438s | all right we got a tied series both |
| 11440s | players taking wins with the Mages |
| 11443s | pocket train with the Naga major Jedi |
| 11444s | with the rainbow Mage start things off |
| 11446s | since we got ourselves |
| 11449s | a series |
| 11452s | dude that was a game that both of them |
| 11455s | showing the stress there at the end of |
| 11457s | it it looks so like both of them had won |
| 11459s | early on in their own ways and then |
| 11462s | heated out into a top deck War and the |
| 11465s | Rogue doesn't top deck that well like |
| 11466s | you say this kamatoa is definitely a way |
| 11468s | to win there but yeah well you have like |
| 11471s | gear shifts sometimes that can uh get |
| 11474s | you out of some |
| 11475s | sticky situation let's just top decking |
| 11477s | twice that's still top decking |
| 11480s | that's still top decking yeah you're |
| 11482s | right |
| 11483s | you're absolutely right |
| 11487s | I guess it allows you to draw something |
| 11488s | and stealth but yeah |
| 11492s | just need to stealth on its own yeah |
| 11494s | honestly that game I always hate like |
| 11498s | summon up games by like singular players |
| 11500s | but it was on the light show to kill the |
| 11503s | first squirrel |
| 11504s | uh that would have been a huge snowball |
| 11507s | that I don't know if pocket train would |
| 11509s | have been able to get away from |
| 11511s | but good on um pocket trading for |
| 11513s | picking that just to you know not |
| 11515s | needing like Target you can |
| 11518s | get stealth minions uh damage with that |
| 11520s | uh so many use cases even on its first |
| 11524s | cast right |
| 11525s | still lets you do four damage to some to |
| 11527s | stuff |
| 11528s | which is exactly what you need to do |
| 11530s | against uh neck Rogue it's just kill all |
| 11534s | the stuff keep the board clean or at |
| 11535s | least deal as much damage to the stuff |
| 11537s | as possible to give yourself the |
| 11538s | opportunity to kill it in future turns |
| 11540s | so |
| 11542s | um looking towards these next matches |
| 11546s | these next games |
| 11549s | um I'm curious to see |
| 11552s | how the outcast Demon Hunter is going to |
| 11556s | perform across the tournament |
| 11557s | because Outcast demon hurts this weird |
| 11559s | deck right where |
| 11561s | like |
| 11562s | it's never on anybody's radar and then |
| 11565s | you look at stats on HS replay and it's |
| 11568s | like always in the top five win rates in |
| 11570s | like the legend and top 1000 Legend |
| 11573s | um and I always ask ask the question |
| 11576s | like who's playing it |
| 11578s | like every time I watch a stream |
| 11579s | nobody's playing it nobody's playing |
| 11581s | against it every time I've seen 997 of |
| 11585s | the top thousand players by watching and |
| 11586s | playing streams of your own and |
| 11588s | everything and none of them played a |
| 11589s | single game of it so where's the other |
| 11591s | person who is this another one and none |
| 11593s | of them's played a single game against |
| 11594s | it and even in my own PL playing like I |
| 11598s | I maybe have played against like one |
| 11600s | Outcast Demon Hunter |
| 11601s | who's playing with it who's winning with |
| 11603s | it who's upping this and then who's |
| 11605s | convincing everybody to bring it to a |
| 11608s | giant master store like yeah uh like you |
| 11611s | check the stats it's good it is it beats |
| 11613s | nearly everything on stats from the |
| 11616s | person who is playing it but nobody |
| 11617s | knows who that is because nobody plays |
| 11619s | it yep so are there any stats at all if |
| 11622s | nobody's playing it but they are because |
| 11624s | it's got a sample size that's relevant |
| 11626s | maybe the games are so quick that you |
| 11629s | don't notice them happen |
| 11632s | let's say the age old adage right if a |
| 11635s | tree falls in a forest are there any |
| 11637s | Outcast Demon Hunter players to hear it |
| 11639s | exactly yes there is because that's |
| 11642s | where they are they're in the forest in |
| 11645s | the forest |
| 11647s | playing Demon Hunter against trees yeah |
| 11650s | they're they're just they're like |
| 11652s | screaming against each other |
| 11659s | funnily enough no Outcast Demon Hunter |
| 11662s | in this game we got pocket train this |
| 11664s | time on the mech Rogue and uh dread is |
| 11666s | going to be on the |
| 11668s | I don't really like to call it secret |
| 11669s | Hunter but that's where we are |
| 11671s | arcane |
| 11676s | is this a moment where we have to count |
| 11678s | the cards in the deck and whichever one |
| 11680s | sit if it's yes |
| 11682s | if it has cards that say secret on it or |
| 11685s | more cards that say Arcane on it yes |
| 11687s | that's exactly how we're gonna decide |
| 11688s | this I like it also you don't count a |
| 11691s | hidden meaning as a secret his meaning |
| 11692s | is like two Mana do nothing right that's |
| 11694s | how that works no it's a secret all |
| 11697s | right so how many cards stay secret on |
| 11698s | it |
| 11699s | we have one cat trick two hidden |
| 11702s | meanings three |
| 11703s | two titanforged traps five |
| 11706s | two star strong bows that's seven seven |
| 11710s | Arcane oh there's way more Arcane one |
| 11712s | Arcane shot two Ricochet shots three |
| 11717s | two Contra arrows five |
| 11719s | two Silver Moon Forest Riders seven |
| 11723s | halderon over eight done game over ever |
| 11726s | song portal two of them that's ten star |
| 11729s | power |
| 11730s | 12 that's 12. |
| 11733s | so why is it called secret Hunter then |
| 11736s | I don't know |
| 11737s | it's a good question yeah |
| 11738s | exactly |
| 11742s | well |
| 11743s | urchin spines and Arcane shot looks like |
| 11745s | a good combo I understand that combo |
| 11747s | but you don't spend all your Mana |
| 11750s | play around hidden beanie |
| 11753s | I know your own hidden meaning just |
| 11755s | making making good habits |
| 11764s | um nobody's ever gonna argue me about |
| 11766s | that card |
| 11768s | if there was like another strong play |
| 11773s | then I would consider holding on to |
| 11776s | Urgent spines Arcane shot |
| 11779s | um but the the alternative is just |
| 11781s | hidden meaning pass there's not even |
| 11783s | anything good to trade into on the board |
| 11785s | of this cat yeah what attack are you |
| 11786s | doing here |
| 11788s | all right you're I might even be I'm |
| 11790s | holding |
| 11791s | yeah |
| 11794s | seems good |
| 11795s | and this is gonna hint because next turn |
| 11798s | is almost certainly going to be hidden |
| 11800s | beating plus hero power or unless |
| 11802s | there's something else drawn |
| 11804s | so you need something to sort of buy |
| 11806s | yourself some time |
| 11807s | uh before star power because star power |
| 11810s | is going to clear just about everything |
| 11814s | uh that the macro is going to be able to |
| 11816s | do on five |
| 11817s | so |
| 11824s | okay |
| 11828s | start weaving |
| 11829s | yeah and now I think you attack because |
| 11831s | you got star power yeah yeah |
| 11833s | great stuff 15 seconds if they can play |
| 11836s | around 15 on turn four even as Rogue you |
| 11838s | know what they can happen |
| 11843s | my logic was flawed because you could |
| 11847s | also use the fact that hey I have star |
| 11849s | power |
| 11850s | to |
| 11852s | incentivize not attacking because then |
| 11854s | you star power clear the board and then |
| 11856s | you get to attack on an empty board |
| 11858s | there's not a two in that can trade |
| 11859s | across I see okay |
| 11862s | sure that actually makes sense sometimes |
| 11865s | you're just wrong you know Neil |
| 11866s | sometimes sometimes I'm wrong and you |
| 11868s | just gotta throw it out there I was |
| 11869s | wrong I've never tried that I'm wrong |
| 11871s | all the time so it's not sometimes so |
| 11873s | I'm just used to it at this point I I |
| 11876s | had the right argument but the wrong |
| 11877s | conclusion |
| 11879s | a bit like the station analogy had the |
| 11882s | right idea but it went the wrong way |
| 11883s | yeah I went to a station but it was the |
| 11886s | wrong one |
| 11890s | and now indecision now yeah I think you |
| 11893s | just Trading haluron |
| 11900s | and I think so too and weave |
| 11906s | are we ever killing them but I guess we |
| 11907s | are kidding them by them not killing us |
| 11913s | yeah the crack and beans still got a |
| 11914s | while it's still got two spells left |
| 11916s | there's only one spell in hands very |
| 11917s | expensive |
| 11919s | um |
| 11920s | I I don't think just starstrong bow is |
| 11924s | worth much here because Pocket Change is |
| 11927s | still a 28 life you're not making that |
| 11928s | big of a dent if you guys have to hit |
| 11930s | the two one maybe which is horrible |
| 11932s | looking |
| 11933s | of course |
| 11935s | yeah exactly that's insane yeah come on |
| 11938s | Neil |
| 11938s | no that's that's why I'm saying it is |
| 11940s | like I think you might have to if you |
| 11941s | played it so you just play something |
| 11943s | else instead yeah |
| 11950s | like star power is kind of interesting |
| 11952s | but that's like you're Ace in the Hole |
| 11953s | like |
| 11958s | oh makes you a good face and just show |
| 11961s | you what a lunatic I am |
| 11963s | oh he's keeping the 4-2 stealth |
| 11966s | okay he's taking a million damage |
| 11970s | wow |
| 11975s | I thought he was doing save damage not |
| 11976s | take more |
| 11985s | dreadlock got out of his train and then |
| 11986s | jumped in a helicopter and flew away |
| 11992s | laughs |
| 11994s | that sounds like every movie ever oh my |
| 11998s | good luck with that star power now kiddo |
| 12001s | it ain't a mess |
| 12003s | [Music] |
| 12006s | we got links |
| 12008s | the missing links TJ ah but it would |
| 12011s | have been so good if you just traded off |
| 12013s | the 4-2 and then developed Helder on |
| 12017s | master and then you'd have two links for |
| 12019s | the price of one would have been the |
| 12021s | same board |
| 12023s | and the missing links joke is funnier |
| 12025s | this way though |
| 12029s | is it though |
| 12031s | I think so yeah because there's now a |
| 12033s | missing links |
| 12037s | because there would have been two now |
| 12038s | there's only one |
| 12041s | Fair yeah |
| 12044s | it is it is about twenty percent funnier |
| 12049s | I think twenty percent of zero is zero |
| 12054s | stage that was funnier I used to like |
| 12056s | you TJ I used to have my back |
| 12060s | it was funny |
| 12067s | there he goes it finally attacks |
| 12070s | do you think he could have done several |
| 12071s | times before |
| 12074s | pocket train still had a crisp 28 though |
| 12078s | yeah there's some some legs in this one |
| 12080s | yet |
| 12083s | or Wheels I guess |
| 12086s | that's fine |
| 12088s | and this is like |
| 12090s | the perfect amount of Mana utilization |
| 12093s | here gonna be able to end on a gears |
| 12095s | nope okay |
| 12099s | just kidding |
| 12100s | because he doesn't want the hidden |
| 12101s | beanie to come out yep |
| 12106s | weaving 26. and Kraken being number one |
| 12111s | is active I believe |
| 12114s | yes |
| 12124s | playing cards |
| 12132s | is he gonna wait till next turn and play |
| 12133s | a lot of cards is that what he's |
| 12134s | thinking here no okay good |
| 12140s | well kinda |
| 12143s | 11. it's just going so slowly but it is |
| 12146s | going |
| 12149s | yeah |
| 12150s | Jedi needs |
| 12155s | draw |
| 12157s | needs to find the conjured Arrow |
| 12161s | yeah need something |
| 12163s | I see how ridiculous this is usually the |
| 12165s | answer is pretty ridiculous oh |
| 12168s | stomper but you can't stomper here |
| 12171s | because then you get to give the hidden |
| 12173s | meaning and you're not killing anything |
| 12174s | on the board the hidden means poor |
| 12176s | attack |
| 12182s | okay |
| 12185s | hold on double plates |
| 12190s | right |
| 12200s | all right |
| 12203s | they're doing such small amounts of |
| 12205s | damage each turn but they are slowly |
| 12207s | ticking down this is like some old |
| 12208s | school grind face that's a lot of damage |
| 12212s | it doesn't really help |
| 12225s | I mean there's no other choice |
| 12231s | yeah |
| 12232s | lethal next turn if you get a next turn |
| 12236s | spoilers smack smack and weave |
| 12243s | smack and weave smack and weave there |
| 12246s | you have it Andrea gonna concede |
| 12249s | um I feel like his game plan was not |
| 12253s | terrible |
| 12255s | but |
| 12257s | there was a couple plays that I |
| 12260s | disagreed with it's entirely possible |
| 12262s | that he was on the right track |
| 12265s | um because I think that he maybe loses |
| 12267s | that game regardless |
| 12270s | um but the the big one was the bow hit |
| 12273s | into the 4-3 to keep keep his uh cat |
| 12276s | stealth took a lot of extra damage for |
| 12279s | that |
| 12280s | and the 4-2 just ended up trading off |
| 12282s | anyway and the alternative play for that |
| 12284s | would have given him an extra length |
| 12285s | obviously that's results oriented so |
| 12287s | those ones are always interesting right |
| 12288s | because you called it at the time and |
| 12290s | when we watched it play out it played |
| 12292s | out badly for him for sure |
| 12293s | uh but his drawers weren't conducive to |
| 12296s | sort of clearing a board making a board |
| 12298s | hitting your opponent with the four |
| 12299s | tooth if you're drawn differently and he |
| 12301s | did draw just minion after minion in his |
| 12303s | belly deck you know suddenly he has a |
| 12305s | board with a four two on it and does a |
| 12306s | lot of damage to face and he looks like |
| 12308s | a genius and this is one of those games |
| 12309s | where it's really hard to call based on |
| 12311s | all the possibilities |
| 12314s | whether he did it right or not but the |
| 12315s | way it panned out it definitely looked a |
| 12317s | little bit clunky and awkward |
| 12319s | yeah |
| 12320s | it's very difficult when you draw |
| 12324s | that many minions like both crack and |
| 12326s | beans with very limited spells |
| 12328s | uh no Mass singer like no way to thin |
| 12331s | the deck didn't hit conjured Arrow even |
| 12333s | after the halder like with like halderon |
| 12336s | to be able to draw through the deck more |
| 12338s | uh just kind of rough rough draws no |
| 12341s | play on any turn felt great right the I |
| 12345s | don't think there was a single turn |
| 12345s | where dread eye could sit back in his |
| 12347s | chair and be like |
| 12349s | a solid turn |
| 12351s | I'm gonna play weapon hit a 4-3 with it |
| 12353s | Levi 4-2 stealth but |
| 12356s | and it was we didn't do that to play I |
| 12358s | talked about hitting the two one if you |
| 12359s | play the weapon we talked about not and |
| 12361s | just going face and just doing a load of |
| 12362s | damage we there was just so much to |
| 12363s | choose from |
| 12365s | yeah it was such a weird weird turn |
| 12370s | um I'm not saying he did it wrong either |
| 12371s | it was just it was just such an awkward |
| 12372s | clunky mess of a thing to have to do |
| 12375s | yeah |
| 12376s | ah pocket train is a zapper Flow Rider |
| 12379s | connoisseur |
| 12381s | I watch a lot of uh different uh top |
| 12384s | level players stream this list and when |
| 12386s | offered zapper FlowRider |
| 12389s | um some players opt to go right for it |
| 12392s | and some players |
| 12394s | don't want to touch it with a 10-foot |
| 12395s | pole but I feel yeah |
| 12400s | um but I feel like a lot of times the |
| 12402s | name of the game for this deck is is |
| 12404s | tempo this is like Tempo Temple tempo |
| 12406s | um because you fall behind you end up |
| 12408s | having to like try and do your combo |
| 12411s | when you don't have guaranteed just |
| 12413s | having Minions on board is such a big |
| 12415s | deal |
| 12417s | um |
| 12419s | I'm a big fan of playing it I I do I'm |
| 12422s | expecting a lot who obviously invented |
| 12424s | Shaman the entire class with ego Shaman |
| 12427s | as I'm going to call it because it's |
| 12428s | subtle's ego on the line |
| 12431s | put a lot of work into it but |
| 12434s | not overloading and using your three |
| 12436s | drops efficiently is something I'm doing |
| 12438s | more and more and more that when I first |
| 12440s | started playing the deck I was just |
| 12441s | happy to keep ancestral draw cards on |
| 12443s | turn two and subtles like that don't do |
| 12445s | it that way and since I started |
| 12446s | trying to play cards on turn three a lot |
| 12449s | more regularly |
| 12450s | the decks worked a lot better for me |
| 12453s | and subtle knows all about this deck so |
| 12454s | what you know we can't we can't argue |
| 12456s | with him this week on that one day |
| 12461s | you talked about the tempo TJ here's a |
| 12463s | Tempo turn |
| 12466s | or setting up the temp Hotel |
| 12473s | there's a lot of damage though holy moly |
| 12481s | oh yeah |
| 12483s | [Music] |
| 12488s | who |
| 12492s | was talking about earlier with his |
| 12494s | Hunter deck like what's done the damage |
| 12495s | here your opposed on 15 you haven't |
| 12497s | played a Hearthstone card yet it's just |
| 12498s | you just got stuff |
| 12501s | just cobbled together 15 damage in four |
| 12503s | turns wait till the good stuff comes out |
| 12505s | in a minute |
| 12507s | oh it's gonna crash first that way you |
| 12510s | can coin altered chord into the two the |
| 12513s | now tutu |
| 12514s | uh doesn't have to put the |
| 12517s | um all according to a Vine Shield to |
| 12519s | actually gets the health from it so |
| 12521s | love it love it love it this show is |
| 12523s | available because pocket took last |
| 12525s | turnout to play The Flash to make this |
| 12526s | turn you know super powered yep |
| 12531s | something I know I don't do enough even |
| 12533s | though I know I should be doing it more |
| 12534s | I still can't find the spots to do it |
| 12535s | and pocket just ripped it on turn three |
| 12537s | into that turn there |
| 12539s | yep there's only one overload I believe |
| 12541s | so pocket train |
| 12547s | um |
| 12547s | [Music] |
| 12554s | okay |
| 12555s | I'm scoring prosperous that was my |
| 12557s | initial Instinct but then I was like |
| 12559s | can you just go schooling |
| 12562s | play the three piranhas but that would |
| 12564s | get |
| 12565s | pretty ruined by Ricochet shot |
| 12569s | on the Titan first |
| 12573s | needs to try and get through the stack |
| 12574s | doesn't have a contra error in hand so |
| 12576s | uh not the the best hand for finishing |
| 12579s | out this game oh the thorum it's just a |
| 12581s | one overload |
| 12583s | it's gonna be able to draw good spot |
| 12585s | with that Health game right he's just |
| 12587s | dominating the board now |
| 12597s | oh it changes |
| 12599s | so much |
| 12601s | um depending on how how many like Arcane |
| 12604s | Buffs you actually have in hand if |
| 12605s | alderon's been played how many minions |
| 12607s | are on the board too right for Ricochet |
| 12609s | shot factors in the percentages |
| 12614s | it's a noticeable number though isn't it |
| 12615s | it's higher than you first think |
| 12617s | yeah |
| 12618s | but this turn is going to be all about |
| 12620s | getting these Krakens online so I think |
| 12622s | we're gonna go cat trick |
| 12626s | uh hero power |
| 12633s | or a singer because singer hero power oh |
| 12636s | yeah 15. you have 15 from hand |
| 12639s | yeah |
| 12640s | he's been cracking on with it yeah so |
| 12644s | needs a |
| 12646s | um pocket train we need a taunt totem |
| 12648s | here or a Titan |
| 12651s | yeah |
| 12653s | and he got the Titan |
| 12658s | I think he doesn't know what's coming |
| 12660s | I think you go Titan Flash and then try |
| 12664s | and get their next turn |
| 12668s | unless he doesn't think he can die he |
| 12672s | probably doesn't think he can |
| 12673s | realistically die this was asking the |
| 12675s | question a minute ago so what what do |
| 12676s | you pitch the number as what do you |
| 12678s | expect your opponent to have from hand |
| 12679s | you know |
| 12683s | oh the cat trick though oh yeah okay now |
| 12686s | you definitely don't draw now you |
| 12688s | definitely |
| 12690s | deal and heal |
| 12695s | yeah oh |
| 12698s | Jedi |
| 12700s | look at his face |
| 12704s | the camera can't sit still too bad I |
| 12707s | can't sit still I can't sit still |
| 12725s | ouch |
| 12728s | so |
| 12732s | he had so dread I had |
| 12735s | seven showing |
| 12737s | pocket train was at 15. |
| 12740s | so eight he's saying you can't deal |
| 12742s | eight damage to me he knew that three |
| 12744s | cards in the hand were the uh |
| 12747s | what are those things called did |
| 12749s | jormongers |
| 12751s | yeah let's go with that yeah a new three |
| 12754s | cards were dormingers he knew that three |
| 12756s | of them |
| 12758s | he knew one was a secret yep he knew one |
| 12760s | was hidden meaning |
| 12762s | um so and he knew that if one was |
| 12765s | starstrong bow it would cut down to the |
| 12767s | amount of power that he already had on |
| 12768s | the board right because he had a three |
| 12769s | three attack weapon so Star Trek boat |
| 12771s | was only like three additional damage |
| 12773s | showing uh if that was one of the cards |
| 12775s | in his hand |
| 12777s | um did not expect the double double |
| 12779s | cracking band |
| 12781s | um |
| 12784s | yeah that's that was a huge risk that he |
| 12787s | took and did not pay off |
| 12791s | but those are the calculations that you |
| 12793s | know some players make like pocket train |
| 12794s | and they pay off so often that they they |
| 12797s | stick with their instincts a lot of the |
| 12799s | time yeah you can kind of see how he got |
| 12801s | there when we when we went backwards |
| 12802s | there when we see we've eliminated so |
| 12804s | many cards in hand actually doing |
| 12805s | something |
| 12807s | and |
| 12809s | Pockets play |
| 12810s | s what did he gain from the doing the |
| 12812s | play |
| 12814s | um he had a better chance to counter |
| 12816s | lethal |
| 12818s | um if his Titan was dealt with and he |
| 12820s | didn't get the overdraws if the Titans |
| 12821s | dealt with okay yeah because that was |
| 12823s | his second flash so he was hoping to you |
| 12825s | know find the hat so would have had the |
| 12828s | discounts the next turn was hoping to |
| 12829s | find like the lightning bolts |
| 12830s | so he could be urging spines and all |
| 12833s | that stuff that way yeah or like links |
| 12835s | Right double links or something like |
| 12836s | that his Titan being cleared he was |
| 12838s | worried that let's say he goes for the |
| 12841s | healing and the damage and then |
| 12843s | um his time gets cleared like with a |
| 12846s | star power for instance |
| 12847s | uh or double links what have you or Rich |
| 12851s | response then he doesn't have the |
| 12854s | the card draw necessary to win didn't |
| 12857s | have the flash even though if the game |
| 12859s | goes on longer and you heal up sometimes |
| 12861s | you don't even need the flash to win the |
| 12863s | game uh didn't have like bio either so |
| 12866s | like I I don't the next turn would have |
| 12869s | been like kind of |
| 12871s | missing a good chunk of damage yeah |
| 12875s | um |
| 12876s | so did take the risk and didn't go for |
| 12878s | it but |
| 12879s | we could see that Jedi |
| 12882s | didn't really have a way to deal with |
| 12884s | the Titan |
| 12885s | unless he started throwing damage yeah |
| 12887s | it happens yeah he's gonna stop putting |
| 12888s | that damage into the tight and then the |
| 12890s | Titans do all the cards already and |
| 12891s | Pockets ready to go very good yeah |
| 12894s | so can you see how they play this |
| 12896s | because all I do in this matchup is try |
| 12897s | and find way even if I don't I cry in a |
| 12899s | little hex I'm crying a little ball in |
| 12901s | the corner I want to see how good |
| 12903s | players do this |
| 12904s | I I think that's the way |
| 12907s | I don't think there's uh another magical |
| 12912s | way that you can do it unless you have |
| 12914s | like the ultimate star and you just kill |
| 12916s | him on like five or six |
| 12919s | you just draw like everything you double |
| 12922s | flash on four and then |
| 12924s | yeah |
| 12926s | like he's gonna have the fish option |
| 12927s | here especially with only like one one |
| 12929s | at some point yeah that's a good totem |
| 12932s | to start things off |
| 12943s | hmm |
| 12947s | so many choices here weirdly |
| 12953s | Hardy wants to dagger this one one down |
| 12956s | and just preserve my shield |
| 12957s | yeah I know that there's a schooling but |
| 12961s | yeah |
| 12963s | because like this play here gives Parker |
| 12966s | train an excuse to Triple fish right |
| 12967s | yeah um if you just dagger it down |
| 12971s | like pocket train can triple fish but |
| 12973s | he's throwing two fish into the click |
| 12976s | locker and then you still have the |
| 12978s | magnetized Buffs for afterwards but |
| 12979s | maybe he just wants to get the fish out |
| 12981s | of hand |
| 12982s | like get again |
| 12984s | the right logic wrong conclusion maybe |
| 12987s | that's Jedi's goal is to make sure that |
| 12989s | pocket trains plays the fish |
| 12992s | uh-huh yeah three cars from hand and you |
| 12995s | pass and not doing any cards you haven't |
| 12996s | played a fatal Spirits okay |
| 13000s | Maybe |
| 13004s | okay there's the flashlight name |
| 13010s | it's getting close already |
| 13017s | do that thing do I do that thing that |
| 13018s | you do with the Rogue do the thing |
| 13021s | what thing the thing where they have a |
| 13024s | 1919 million on turn four or something |
| 13026s | or two 1990 Millions on turn five which |
| 13028s | you don't do anymore but you know |
| 13030s | just do the Rogue things |
| 13035s | no matter what deck Rogue is playing |
| 13037s | it's like just doing Rogue things |
| 13040s | it's actually really really true |
| 13044s | it's just it's very generous |
| 13048s | so what do we still think I think that's |
| 13050s | the main question here |
| 13053s | and only mother shipping on five |
| 13055s | I think you yeah I want a Mothership on |
| 13057s | five so I think you just play |
| 13059s | The Spider and then |
| 13062s | the oscillator afterwards let me just |
| 13064s | leave the three four Stouts that way you |
| 13065s | can play into Mothership next turn |
| 13069s | um |
| 13070s | and as far as this attack goes it's |
| 13072s | probably gotta go into the piranha right |
| 13074s | I think it says there's another |
| 13075s | schooling on the other side a second |
| 13076s | load of fish would start to become |
| 13078s | painful for you wouldn't it |
| 13083s | laughs |
| 13088s | ah nope have we killed a single Jedi |
| 13091s | play correctly I don't think we have I |
| 13093s | don't think I've called ever I don't |
| 13095s | think I've called a single dread I |
| 13096s | played correctly in his entire |
| 13099s | professional career yeah |
| 13101s | sometimes even after he's done it yeah |
| 13110s | okay |
| 13112s | that's scary isn't it when your opponent |
| 13114s | gets scoring that can do real big damage |
| 13116s | to your board and they just choose not |
| 13117s | to because you've got you know Silly |
| 13119s | four or four |
| 13121s | obviously of course the 404 is |
| 13123s | terrifying yeah but I feel like this is |
| 13126s | a pretty |
| 13127s | reasonable position for pocket train one |
| 13129s | cc is the uh |
| 13131s | the turn here |
| 13133s | so he just has the one oscillator |
| 13136s | discount |
| 13142s | colors of spark Bots |
| 13145s | what about it even my chat were |
| 13147s | complaining they were the wrong colors |
| 13148s | before they got changed how can how can |
| 13150s | a color be wrong |
| 13153s | um I mean they're based off of the color |
| 13155s | of like the keyword right |
| 13158s | I know they're all in white the keywords |
| 13160s | no the lifesteal symbol on cards and |
| 13164s | weapons is Pink |
| 13166s | another one the poisonous symbol on |
| 13169s | cards and weapons is green |
| 13173s | the taunt symbol doesn't exist anywhere |
| 13175s | so symbol for it |
| 13177s | but if it did exist it'd be red |
| 13182s | why do I find these people Divine Shield |
| 13184s | is very paladiny so yellow |
| 13188s | uh-huh |
| 13190s | I think I'm getting them wrong actually |
| 13193s | because I'm just agreeing with your mind |
| 13195s | because I don't understand the |
| 13198s | discussion so because I was like wait |
| 13200s | what color is rush and then I was like |
| 13201s | is rush red I think Russia's red because |
| 13204s | it's okay |
| 13205s | but I'm red because red represents the |
| 13209s | angry face then what color is the taunt |
| 13212s | I don't know none of these things are |
| 13214s | real no you're confusing me |
| 13216s | good it's confused me for days I'm glad |
| 13219s | somebody else is confused |
| 13224s | also isn't Paladin normally pink in I |
| 13227s | got told off a listing paladins in |
| 13229s | yellow when I used to do the stats |
| 13230s | somebody said that they're supposed to |
| 13231s | be pink she's always confused me as well |
| 13239s | shark that's been made but I want to |
| 13241s | talk about the colors of spark box |
| 13242s | honestly yeah Mega show it's pretty good |
| 13244s | okay red is rushed I was wrong what |
| 13247s | color is that I'm out of colors is it |
| 13250s | orange is that orange |
| 13255s | yeah I don't know anyway they've been |
| 13258s | changed to something else from what they |
| 13259s | were so whatever they were they're not |
| 13262s | they're arbitarily different as this |
| 13263s | Mecca shark is doing hundreds wait is |
| 13265s | this lethal it's got to be close really |
| 13268s | really close |
| 13270s | and the horn |
| 13274s | okay |
| 13278s | oh my God |
| 13293s | was there a lethal there with the |
| 13294s | switches somewhere ah no |
| 13298s | uh he would have had to go if he got the |
| 13300s | switches earlier no because the mega |
| 13301s | shark had already had the highest attack |
| 13303s | right and that was the one thing that |
| 13304s | could still attack it was the only thing |
| 13306s | that could attack okay all right now |
| 13307s | we're looking for counter lethal here or |
| 13309s | at least a board clear |
| 13312s | lightning reflexes did pick up the |
| 13314s | lightning bolt right so still in an |
| 13318s | extra uh nature spell in here somewhere |
| 13321s | it's very unlikely that it's going to be |
| 13323s | lethal |
| 13326s | um yeah |
| 13330s | but the so I'm saying the leftmost |
| 13332s | minion could have attacked if they |
| 13333s | managed to get the switch down there but |
| 13334s | I'm not sure ah okay |
| 13337s | but would it have been enough oh yeah it |
| 13339s | would have been yeah it's just huge yeah |
| 13342s | instead of the pl instead of the plus |
| 13344s | three |
| 13346s | um attack |
| 13347s | uh |
| 13349s | mimarron |
| 13350s | thing yeah you use the switch on the one |
| 13353s | too all right because the shark's |
| 13354s | basically it's basically giving the shot |
| 13355s | wind for you when you use the switch |
| 13356s | isn't it so yeah and now Pocket Change |
| 13358s | is open there's no blades |
| 13360s | there's not |
| 13362s | so gonna gear shift |
| 13372s | why are we here again why is Rogue |
| 13373s | trying to do three damage for like the |
| 13374s | third game second game but I'd like to |
| 13377s | exaggerate there's three is a bigger |
| 13378s | number |
| 13384s | well |
| 13389s | is not dead |
| 13393s | what is this with two players just |
| 13395s | ironing each other out |
| 13400s | is this plus one spell damage on the |
| 13402s | board |
| 13404s | so it's what a lightning bolt ends it |
| 13410s | Flash and feral so Defenders |
| 13414s | yeah |
| 13417s | if |
| 13421s | uh that's enough because you feral |
| 13426s | spirits |
| 13427s | lightning storm or turn the tides |
| 13430s | lightning storm |
| 13431s | crash |
| 13433s | and then you get the attack to face with |
| 13435s | the face plus the fish yep there it is |
| 13438s | exact right |
| 13442s | the one damage from the fish coming in |
| 13448s | Jedi just couldn't get two or three |
| 13450s | damage twice with the rug I think it was |
| 13452s | three one time and technically two the |
| 13453s | other but basic three he was looking for |
| 13455s | until the end well also the verse lethal |
| 13457s | at the end so |
| 13461s | it would have been |
| 13464s | um it would have brought it up to uh |
| 13466s | what was it at the end was it 10 was it |
| 13468s | a 10 attack shark uh 11 I think |
| 13472s | but you didn't even miss three so it |
| 13474s | would have been eight instead of one |
| 13476s | okay so yeah plus three on it instead of |
| 13478s | putting the wind fuel or the the switch |
| 13480s | on it seven additional damage okay yeah |
| 13483s | so yeah |
| 13484s | um that was just |
| 13485s | Jedi having to fly by the seat of his |
| 13488s | pants make it up as he goes |
| 13491s | quick reckon clean the station of the |
| 13495s | um the parts that were being put in the |
| 13497s | hand |
| 13498s | um what are they called their mimirons |
| 13499s | they're not Parts they're not tools |
| 13503s | they're called some gadgets utilities |
| 13505s | gadgets there's always something |
| 13508s | yeah I don't know look I'm Gonna Keep |
| 13510s | guessing word guessing words is far more |
| 13511s | fun than knowing words I've done it all |
| 13512s | my life and then beyond that even if you |
| 13514s | did the exact same play that he had |
| 13516s | there was also multiple chances for him |
| 13518s | to get just one blades uh for the three |
| 13520s | damage |
| 13522s | um so it was a mixture it was a a |
| 13525s | mixture of making the error at the very |
| 13527s | last second and also just not being able |
| 13529s | to find the follow-up but pocket train |
| 13531s | fantastic recognition of the situation |
| 13535s | um even just playing the |
| 13538s | uh the three four in between all the uh |
| 13540s | nature spells right calculating okay I'm |
| 13543s | gonna make up this discount |
| 13545s | and I don't know with the turn to touch |
| 13548s | draw if he hadn't played that if he |
| 13550s | would have had enough Mana no he would |
| 13551s | have |
| 13552s | uh but regardless still very nice lethal |
| 13555s | spot there at the end uh calculating it |
| 13557s | for exactly though and pocket train is |
| 13559s | going to move on now that was not |
| 13560s | uh in elimination match if I'm correct |
| 13565s | win his match today |
| 13568s | and Jedi gets to play the elimination |
| 13571s | decider decider match uh later yeah so |
| 13574s | yep the decider match which is a very |
| 13576s | stressful situation to be in because you |
| 13578s | got to wait all the way to the end of |
| 13579s | the day |
| 13580s | and then you you win you're in you lose |
| 13582s | you go home so uh should be a good one |
| 13584s | though |
| 13585s | um Jedi seems to have the good decks |
| 13589s | and uh I'm excited to see him play later |
| 13591s | because this is the rise of the Americas |
| 13593s | that's what the expansion should be |
| 13594s | called uh but Neil and I are done for |
| 13597s | now I believe Neil and I will be on the |
| 13598s | last match of the day so |
| 13600s | for the three of you that are huge fans |
| 13602s | make sure you stick around and tune into |
| 13604s | that one but before we jump into our |
| 13607s | next match of the day we are gonna have |
| 13608s | to go to a quick break so don't go |
| 13610s | anywhere plenty more action here from |
| 13611s | the master store summer Championship |
| 13612s | right after this |
| 13619s | together |
| 13626s | [Music] |
| 13635s | [Music] |
| 13645s | [Music] |
| 13652s | [Music] |
| 13673s | [Music] |
| 13675s | foreign |
| 13684s | [Music] |
| 13724s | [Music] |
| 13730s | foreign |
| 13738s | foreign |
| 13740s | [Music] |
| 13746s | [Music] |
| 13751s | [Music] |
| 13776s | [Music] |
| 13782s | [Music] |
| 13798s | [Music] |
| 13807s | foreign |
| 13809s | [Music] |
| 13834s | [Music] |
| 13856s | [Music] |
| 13876s | foreign |
| 13886s | [Music] |
| 13918s | thank you |
| 13927s | [Music] |
| 13936s | [Music] |
| 13953s | foreign |
| 13955s | [Music] |
| 13968s | [Applause] |
| 13972s | [Music] |
| 13988s | hello everyone and welcome back to |
| 13990s | massive tour summer Championship I'm |
| 13992s | Raven and joining me for this matchup is |
| 13994s | going to be Dragon Rider how are you |
| 13996s | doing have you been enjoying the matches |
| 13997s | so far |
| 13998s | I am doing well and uh it's been some |
| 14001s | very interesting games uh it seems like |
| 14004s | the match that uh we covered before that |
| 14008s | I covered before with Lorinda was not as |
| 14011s | close necessarily in terms of the score |
| 14013s | as some of the other matches have been |
| 14016s | so very interesting to kind of see where |
| 14019s | these games have all gone in terms of |
| 14021s | the back and forth or the score changing |
| 14024s | we've had some reverse sweeps throughout |
| 14026s | these series as well so it's been very |
| 14028s | interesting to see just all over the |
| 14030s | place and it even the bands uh you and I |
| 14033s | were talking about this right before we |
| 14034s | jumped in how the bands have been all |
| 14037s | over the place it just feels very |
| 14039s | interesting in terms of the kind of meta |
| 14042s | the Dax the card choices and how these |
| 14045s | games are playing out with these players |
| 14046s | as we kind of see where we are at in our |
| 14050s | day this group a we will be watching |
| 14053s | this winners match for group a here but |
| 14056s | there are still plenty of other games |
| 14058s | going on as as well |
| 14060s | yeah tonsoku been able to fight back |
| 14062s | from elimination a little bit earlier on |
| 14064s | so they are going to be facing the loser |
| 14066s | of ueq and meti that we as you mentioned |
| 14069s | is the match we're going to be bringing |
| 14070s | you guys for now I've seen a lot of uh |
| 14072s | requests to see a meeting match in the |
| 14074s | uh in the chat over the course of a |
| 14075s | while I've been on my break so we're |
| 14077s | happy to deliver that and yeah some of |
| 14079s | these matchups have been going pretty |
| 14081s | crazy like pretty you know right to the |
| 14083s | edge in terms of who's going to win just |
| 14084s | like the one that we've just saw a gamer |
| 14087s | rvg going up against Casey in the |
| 14089s | decider match for Group B as well I know |
| 14092s | both players do have a lot of fans but |
| 14094s | with you uh taking it for group and |
| 14097s | already we it feels like I've blinked |
| 14099s | probably because I've only cast one |
| 14100s | match so far it was right at the start |
| 14102s | of the day before like I've blinked and |
| 14103s | we've already seen players eliminated as |
| 14105s | we see now where obviously dreadi |
| 14107s | dropped down to that just decided match |
| 14109s | snag on whereas pocket train gonna be |
| 14111s | making it group six years with male band |
| 14115s | the last turn of the very last okay |
| 14118s | Gabby they're looking as ever in group D |
| 14121s | yeah |
| 14127s | oh |
| 14135s | yeah and yeah definitely uh going to be |
| 14140s | some very interesting series here we are |
| 14142s | going to be seeing a lot of these |
| 14144s | decider matches coming up still today so |
| 14147s | we have that for you as well |
| 14151s | yep looking forward to getting into this |
| 14153s | Matt open meeting especially is that |
| 14156s | this double Shaman band uh going out so |
| 14158s | it's gonna be pretty interesting to see |
| 14160s | it looks like we're starting with a mage |
| 14161s | mirror |
| 14165s | yeah very interesting there I also want |
| 14169s | to talk about the specific card choices |
| 14172s | between these two lists as well because |
| 14174s | they are both bringing this rainbow Mage |
| 14178s | as you can see on the screen here the |
| 14181s | drum Druid or tree and Druid secret or |
| 14185s | the Arcane Hunter as we've been calling |
| 14188s | it nature Shaman which has been banned |
| 14190s | out and that rainbow Mage now it's very |
| 14193s | interesting as well because uh the week |
| 14197s | you actually is not bringing kind of the |
| 14201s | same list it's several cards different |
| 14204s | than meaty's rainbow Mage which is |
| 14208s | fascinating to me again looking at these |
| 14210s | different kind of card choices uh not |
| 14213s | running the top end of the elemental |
| 14216s | inspiration and also does include Finley |
| 14220s | so Finley which I know maybe is not a |
| 14223s | fan of Finley so but you know up on |
| 14226s | screen here we did just want to |
| 14227s | highlight that Druid as well potentially |
| 14229s | going to be seeing that at some point in |
| 14231s | the series here and also slightly |
| 14233s | different than other versions we've seen |
| 14235s | on stream |
| 14236s | yeah I think it's something that's |
| 14238s | really fun about the meta right at the |
| 14239s | moment obviously we're not too far away |
| 14241s | from the the launch of the expansion |
| 14243s | right we're not too deep into the meta |
| 14244s | as of yet but there's still a lot of |
| 14247s | discussion a lot of our disagreement on |
| 14249s | exactly how the the decks are built and |
| 14251s | it seems like a lot of the choices at |
| 14253s | least looking at them now it definitely |
| 14255s | doesn't feel like right or wrong even |
| 14257s | though a lot of the pro players on |
| 14258s | either side will tell you it is but it |
| 14260s | feels like well okay you know you see |
| 14262s | the merits of this set of cards are |
| 14264s | these few changes and you see them out |
| 14265s | of the other versions as well some of |
| 14267s | the players have brought so it's gonna |
| 14269s | be exciting to see as we move on through |
| 14271s | this weekend uh which lists sort of look |
| 14273s | the best right who actually makes a top |
| 14275s | four right and what do those versions of |
| 14278s | like Shaymin and of uh that Mage look |
| 14281s | like because like I said there's a lot |
| 14283s | of disagreement but check it out meaty |
| 14284s | of course bringing that macro the |
| 14286s | rainbow shaming the outcast Demon Hunter |
| 14288s | and then um did I say rainbow shame and |
| 14290s | I think I'm a rainbow Mage a mouse look |
| 14292s | at the shaman list but uh but yeah |
| 14294s | bringing a decent lineup overall the |
| 14296s | only true disappointing thing here is |
| 14298s | that miti's favorite class is priest |
| 14300s | which is something that I do not |
| 14302s | appreciate |
| 14304s | yeah I hope it's a joke many many people |
| 14307s | do not like priests uh what you know |
| 14310s | what it's okay though if you don't we're |
| 14311s | not seeing any in this tournament but |
| 14313s | yeah meaty absolutely not only a |
| 14315s | fantastic Hearthstone player but also a |
| 14317s | doctor a real life doctor so that is |
| 14320s | pretty cool as well to see people who |
| 14323s | have these very like well-renowned |
| 14325s | professions also being very good at the |
| 14328s | game here I I think it's not even not I |
| 14330s | think it's just having like a you know |
| 14332s | something resembling a full-time job and |
| 14334s | putting in the time and effort to |
| 14337s | qualify to these tournaments as well is |
| 14339s | just super impressive and we take a look |
| 14341s | at meaty's macro a deck we've just in |
| 14343s | the previous matchup seen it gets so |
| 14346s | close but so far to an extent from dread |
| 14349s | eye but this list is one that on the |
| 14352s | surface is quite simple right A lot of |
| 14355s | it if you just look at it at a glance |
| 14356s | it's play mix early magnetize them punch |
| 14359s | your opponent until they fall over right |
| 14361s | but there are a lot of small things you |
| 14363s | can do like managing those gadgets and |
| 14366s | being able to pull off big turns |
| 14368s | managing hand and choosing when and |
| 14370s | where to put those magnetic mechs to be |
| 14373s | able to you know optimize not only just |
| 14375s | damage but actually do you want to go |
| 14377s | all in on one minion do you need to |
| 14379s | spread you know on the board instead |
| 14380s | where do you put these sort of randomly |
| 14382s | generated sort of effects right and |
| 14384s | keywords and how you place them I think |
| 14387s | there's a lot uh a lot involved in that |
| 14389s | decision making even though at surface |
| 14391s | it feels like Mecca one back on two |
| 14393s | mechan three oh my opponent's dead |
| 14395s | perfect but there is actually a lot of |
| 14397s | decision making when you get to those |
| 14398s | tricky turns whether it's managing Mana |
| 14401s | or whether it's saying I can pop off so |
| 14404s | much there's a ways to do it to win and |
| 14406s | there's ways to do it to lose as we have |
| 14407s | seen so uh we'll see how that progresses |
| 14410s | going forward but what do you make of |
| 14411s | the Bands so far because we've seen such |
| 14414s | a selection I know we mentioned it |
| 14415s | before but did you when prepping for |
| 14417s | this tournament did you expect like oh |
| 14419s | shame and will be banned almost all the |
| 14422s | time or you know this other class will |
| 14424s | be banned or did do you expect a bit |
| 14426s | more of a a sort of mixed bag based on |
| 14428s | what those players were thinking yeah I |
| 14430s | actually think that with a special |
| 14432s | really the kind of wide range of decks |
| 14434s | that we're seeing and as well the |
| 14437s | different card choices the players are |
| 14438s | bringing I did kind of expect to see a |
| 14440s | little bit of a mix of bands maybe not |
| 14442s | to the extent that we are seeing but I |
| 14445s | don't think that there's necessarily a |
| 14447s | kind of clear-cut uh Boogeyman type deck |
| 14450s | like we have seen in previous metas or |
| 14453s | previous tournaments this is very |
| 14455s | flexible and I think we're seeing that |
| 14456s | as well in a lot of the car choices and |
| 14458s | the lineups uh things like speaker |
| 14460s | stomper right players they're bringing |
| 14462s | speaker stomper so players aren't you |
| 14465s | know and I think that those kind of card |
| 14466s | choices as well are also |
| 14469s | kind of seen in some of those bands but |
| 14473s | we are getting to jump into the game |
| 14475s | here and it is going to be as you |
| 14476s | mentioned this uh mirror Mage match |
| 14480s | first which not completely mirror match |
| 14482s | not card for card mirror match but uh |
| 14484s | both Mages here and midi on the coin |
| 14488s | with this potential coining into a Cold |
| 14490s | Case |
| 14492s | if both players going to be keeping a |
| 14494s | very simple open hands or double cold |
| 14497s | cases welcome some options to at least |
| 14499s | start behind on some levels of pressure |
| 14501s | and know whichever way you know |
| 14503s | whoever's this matchup we do know the |
| 14505s | other it's going to be pretty explosive |
| 14506s | because I feel like it's a lot of |
| 14508s | whoever blinks first in terms of either |
| 14511s | missed timing or simply not having |
| 14513s | access to those solid Alibis to buy that |
| 14515s | extra turn I think a lot of it is going |
| 14517s | to fall on that unless one player gets |
| 14520s | some kind of heavy advantage in the |
| 14522s | early game and that's piling on a ton of |
| 14524s | pressure for like those massive place so |
| 14528s | to speak but you know just a couple of |
| 14530s | spells with a little bit of spell damage |
| 14532s | thrown into maybe burst the last 10 or |
| 14534s | so |
| 14535s | yeah absolutely and we did see that |
| 14538s | discover option there uh you going for |
| 14541s | the uh Discovery trying to find a little |
| 14545s | bit more options and the potential there |
| 14548s | could have been the potential for |
| 14549s | something like deathborn but maybe not |
| 14551s | in this mirror match is something that |
| 14553s | you want there I like the the cheap |
| 14555s | Discovery options set and talking about |
| 14557s | Discovery we have another choice on the |
| 14559s | other side here rewind definitely |
| 14562s | looking pretty good over those other |
| 14564s | options |
| 14565s | yeah I think there's a moment where you |
| 14567s | go okay how fancy can I be or should I |
| 14569s | just go for the good card and a lot of |
| 14571s | the time even though you might think you |
| 14573s | can be cool the good card is the way |
| 14575s | forward just the generic this is gonna |
| 14577s | do something guaranteed now interest |
| 14579s | over |
| 14580s | ueq a shot of the narrow available |
| 14584s | yeah it looks good to me |
| 14586s | yeah |
| 14588s | especially being able to fit in some of |
| 14591s | these additional spell School archetypes |
| 14593s | with that cheap manner allows for a lot |
| 14596s | of things especially with Sith sitting |
| 14598s | in hand you want to kind of build up |
| 14600s | those spell scores and it's talking |
| 14603s | about school how about schooling to add |
| 14605s | some more minions but nope gonna go for |
| 14607s | the Relic as well seems pretty decent as |
| 14611s | well just a little bit of additional a |
| 14614s | removal as well as that cheap spell to |
| 14616s | play |
| 14618s | yeah I think although schooling is a |
| 14620s | fantastic card I think hand size is a |
| 14622s | problem right like it's got to be played |
| 14624s | then the hand's gonna be big so you've |
| 14625s | got to spend manner on the fish and then |
| 14627s | certainly a lot of men have been really |
| 14630s | progressing the game plan like even now |
| 14632s | schooling would clear off some minions |
| 14635s | but is that what you want to do with |
| 14636s | your turn in this mirror and they say no |
| 14639s | so we're going to see you just try and |
| 14640s | clear up some of this with the free |
| 14641s | spells and with the Relic and then just |
| 14644s | drop a Cold Case themselves |
| 14646s | yeah it seems pretty decent as well just |
| 14650s | being able to get a little bit out there |
| 14652s | play these spells and as you said kind |
| 14654s | of clear up hand space that is an issue |
| 14656s | with new cards like the volume up these |
| 14658s | players want to be playing volume up but |
| 14661s | honestly you know there can be hand size |
| 14665s | issues and I have also seen some players |
| 14667s | deciding if they even want to be running |
| 14669s | two volume up uh sometimes because of |
| 14672s | that hand size |
| 14679s | well |
| 14680s | the keyboard coming into hand is pretty |
| 14683s | nice here the Mana is slightly awkward |
| 14687s | here for weekend deciding maybe if he |
| 14691s | wants to go for the keyboard now and |
| 14693s | build up some of that Tempo or just go |
| 14697s | for drawing more cards but I don't know |
| 14699s | if the solid Alibi is something that is |
| 14702s | going to be coming into play at this |
| 14703s | point in the game |
| 14705s | it's really tricky isn't it because |
| 14707s | generally speaking solid Alibi is |
| 14711s | normally to stop the big otks but if you |
| 14714s | leave it too late the damage has been |
| 14716s | done right like if yuku just gets hit by |
| 14719s | all of this damage then sure you could |
| 14721s | sell that by later but you've already |
| 14723s | taken like 10 extra or something right |
| 14725s | when it could have been reduced a lot |
| 14727s | yeah and it's it's really interesting as |
| 14729s | well looking at potentially that part of |
| 14731s | the game that point in the game if it's |
| 14733s | light or even on boards like what media |
| 14736s | has here if you wait too long to play |
| 14739s | those solid Alibis things like these |
| 14741s | skeletons or even the Elementals from |
| 14743s | the elemental Inspirations well if you |
| 14746s | have five six seven Minions on board |
| 14749s | you're still able to push five six seven |
| 14751s | damage right even through solid Alibi |
| 14753s | and sometimes that's just enough to end |
| 14754s | the game depending on how much damage |
| 14756s | you've been able to push in the early |
| 14757s | parts |
| 14759s | okay Reverb being picked up but weirdly |
| 14761s | enough are those situations where both |
| 14763s | players at least at this second in time |
| 14764s | don't really have tons of options of |
| 14766s | course ueq now does have options to |
| 14769s | discover and generate some more cards |
| 14770s | but in general I'm more used to seeing |
| 14772s | this match up be like two players with |
| 14775s | full hands for the majority of the game |
| 14779s | yeah it it definitely does feel a little |
| 14782s | weird here we're gonna see that discover |
| 14783s | there is |
| 14785s | three different spell School types here |
| 14788s | for uq to decide between I don't |
| 14793s | unleash fell does not feel like it |
| 14795s | really does a ton here |
| 14800s | but it is cheap |
| 14802s | yeah and it's heal right like it's so |
| 14804s | it's not a lot of healing but it's |
| 14806s | something as a you know because looking |
| 14808s | at this now ueq is down on 19 I mean |
| 14811s | that's just dead soon right like 19 is |
| 14815s | not safe at all uh so it does have to do |
| 14819s | something to get a little bit of Health |
| 14820s | only pushed up to 22 but it's better |
| 14821s | than nothing does get a little card draw |
| 14823s | here as well |
| 14826s | molten rune |
| 14828s | always looks good to me but these are |
| 14830s | good options yeah kind of a choice here |
| 14833s | between dealing some damage with one of |
| 14836s | the either the flame guys there or that |
| 14837s | molten Rune or just going yet again for |
| 14840s | even more Discovery here discovering |
| 14842s | into another uh spell School type that |
| 14845s | he hasn't played yet again with that Sif |
| 14848s | in hand and now some damage with the |
| 14849s | molten ruin and uh flame guys or maybe |
| 14852s | just wants to discover something else |
| 14860s | well these are good options yeah |
| 14862s | obviously the nature effect is not not |
| 14864s | that amazing of course in Mage but just |
| 14867s | draw a card with the nature spell School |
| 14869s | uh I mean these are all looking good but |
| 14873s | is it too late for love everlasting |
| 14875s | Maybe |
| 14880s | I mean the discount on the first spell |
| 14882s | is pretty enticing |
| 14884s | it's really good I'm just thinking when |
| 14886s | it's going to be played because I didn't |
| 14887s | catch it then but miti does have the |
| 14890s | play basically lined out for next turn |
| 14892s | right with elemental so |
| 14895s | I'm as meaty played this is what's |
| 14897s | really difficult to remember everything |
| 14899s | that's played because I was going to say |
| 14900s | meaty might have chosen this because it |
| 14902s | just is playable this turn and I think I |
| 14905s | might have added an extra Elemental for |
| 14908s | meaty so that could be something |
| 14910s | beneficial to do this turn as opposed to |
| 14912s | playing picking a card that is powerful |
| 14914s | but you wouldn't play for another like |
| 14915s | two turns anyway |
| 14917s | oh absolutely |
| 14919s | the due process pickup pretty |
| 14922s | interesting there but uh how about some |
| 14924s | stats |
| 14926s | stats are always good I never complain |
| 14929s | about stats |
| 14930s | these gonna be the otters |
| 14933s | yeah I was gonna say probably just to |
| 14935s | clear up some of this board and probably |
| 14938s | try to soak up some of that damage from |
| 14940s | the skeleton instead of having it Go |
| 14942s | face which it did |
| 14949s | there's inspiration only for four but |
| 14951s | double stealth and reborn okay the |
| 14954s | double stealth is actually huge that |
| 14956s | might well just make umiku have to go |
| 14958s | over to an alibi this turn because I |
| 14961s | think if you there's no way I can't see |
| 14963s | it there's a way to deal with these but |
| 14964s | if you're just gonna take eight put |
| 14966s | yourself down to twelve |
| 14968s | you're not feeling confident are you |
| 14971s | no |
| 14976s | what other options |
| 14978s | do they have for now though |
| 14980s | don't have to commit to The Alibi quite |
| 14982s | yet |
| 14985s | I mean it it is still pretty threatening |
| 14987s | though these Minions on board even |
| 14989s | though as you said it's only quote |
| 14991s | unquote only four but that is that is an |
| 14993s | impressive amount of pressure here and |
| 14996s | again looking at the kind of differences |
| 14998s | in the cards the card choices for their |
| 15001s | decks uh Yukio is not playing the |
| 15004s | elemental inspirations |
| 15007s | so he's not gonna be able to apply that |
| 15009s | pressure it's just really tricky because |
| 15011s | the double stealth right like that's |
| 15013s | just such a pain |
| 15015s | it's gonna go Reverb okay |
| 15018s | send the easy trades and Elementals |
| 15021s | playing that due process as an |
| 15024s | additional nature spell but yeah it does |
| 15026s | end up going for that solid Alibi there |
| 15030s | and this is the position you want to be |
| 15031s | in right if you're playing this mirror |
| 15033s | you want to be in metis seat right now |
| 15034s | because the making your opponent's solid |
| 15037s | Alibi first generally gets you ahead as |
| 15040s | long as you have your own to play right |
| 15042s | obviously if they saw Dollar by first |
| 15044s | and then you don't have any at all |
| 15045s | that's going to be a bit of a problem |
| 15047s | but meet his hand looks very very uh |
| 15049s | powerful right now has options of an |
| 15051s | organ can also as double solid Alibi |
| 15054s | just ready to go and they're not even |
| 15056s | particularly needed right now still |
| 15057s | sitting at that 30 elf can use this turn |
| 15060s | to just clear up the board and basically |
| 15061s | ask uq to you know oh threaten me again |
| 15064s | you know like you see how many turns in |
| 15066s | a row you can actually threaten because |
| 15068s | I think metis should be feeling I'll say |
| 15071s | safe-ish at 30. |
| 15075s | yeah it's kind of an interesting uh meta |
| 15078s | and the way that some of these decks |
| 15081s | just are are built and the kind of |
| 15082s | lineups that we're looking at as well uh |
| 15085s | we've talked about it I think across a |
| 15088s | lot of our games already today that kind |
| 15090s | of difference of on board versus from |
| 15093s | hand and even though this Mage is kind |
| 15095s | of built to be uh doing all of that |
| 15098s | damage from hand this is one of those |
| 15100s | cases where yeah maybe midi does |
| 15102s | actually feel pretty good here at 30 |
| 15104s | although in some cases he probably would |
| 15107s | not |
| 15109s | and we saw that even just the push as |
| 15110s | you mentioned earlier through the solid |
| 15112s | Alibi is still pushing well I think four |
| 15114s | it was and whilst clearing the board |
| 15116s | like that's significant because it just |
| 15118s | makes each turn easier and easier now |
| 15120s | you can forced into the second solid |
| 15123s | Alibi and even then like the follow-up |
| 15126s | still just doesn't feel great |
| 15131s | yeah I'm really interested to see here |
| 15134s | if uq wants to go for forging either of |
| 15138s | these molten runes this turn to try to |
| 15141s | set up for something next turn but |
| 15143s | if if there's no lethal from from him |
| 15146s | then he's got to worry about the lethal |
| 15149s | from the other side yeah I think the |
| 15151s | problem here or something I'm not saying |
| 15153s | I have a strong decision on this either |
| 15154s | way but I feel like if this was draw |
| 15158s | and then ping it's like okay but I was |
| 15162s | with you where just do you just molten |
| 15164s | ruin face with the forge and just say |
| 15166s | well there's some damage done hopefully |
| 15168s | I can make something happen next to it |
| 15169s | because I'm not sure what draws at this |
| 15172s | point are realistically gonna make ueq |
| 15175s | win the game |
| 15178s | yeah and I mean having that solid Alibi |
| 15180s | is great sure but as you mentioned it's |
| 15183s | the second Alibi now so if there is not |
| 15185s | that lethal on the other side there's |
| 15187s | also not another solid Alibi to come up |
| 15191s | behind that so uh yeah |
| 15194s | this is just seven damage with a ping |
| 15197s | right which is yeah if you're nearly |
| 15199s | half the health that your opponent has |
| 15201s | through a solid Alibi which is never bad |
| 15207s | that's what I was just about to ask you |
| 15209s | yeah I think so uh at this point maybe |
| 15212s | midi just has to be asking himself you |
| 15214s | know I I have now seen the second Alibi |
| 15217s | I feel like I'm in a strong position how |
| 15220s | do I lose from here |
| 15221s | and maybe just setting that up or |
| 15223s | setting up an alibi is |
| 15226s | something |
| 15228s | yeah there's also there's a couple of |
| 15230s | options right like there's this version |
| 15232s | where it's oh I'm so far ahead it'll be |
| 15234s | fine got hold of objection as well so |
| 15237s | that's gonna uh cause some levels of |
| 15239s | trouble for ueq but I do think that no |
| 15241s | Gunner would be basically like the the |
| 15243s | low the effect was was fine as well I |
| 15245s | think meti could just choose as long as |
| 15247s | you can completely throw can just choose |
| 15249s | a path to Victory here because I'm not |
| 15252s | sure what |
| 15254s | gets ueq here unless I just can't count |
| 15259s | but none of these are forged yeah |
| 15262s | there's not that much damage loaded up |
| 15266s | already that's one mannered down so |
| 15270s | there is the board clay with the force |
| 15272s | but |
| 15274s | it doesn't matter if there's no alibi |
| 15276s | right me to say maybe if mete had like |
| 15278s | two cards in hand you could be just |
| 15281s | thinking okay they don't have anything |
| 15283s | right but I feel like with this it's |
| 15285s | actually been the board presence because |
| 15287s | although ueq's had hold of safe all game |
| 15289s | and Meaty hasn't it just doesn't really |
| 15291s | matter |
| 15294s | yeah |
| 15296s | okay |
| 15298s | and this is so interesting as well |
| 15300s | because I think for the most part we |
| 15304s | kind of saw this panning out as uh uq |
| 15307s | kind of was ahead in terms of playing |
| 15309s | the spell schools and kind of get |
| 15311s | getting things rolling and as you can |
| 15313s | see over on the kind of right side of |
| 15315s | the screen uh also pulled ahead maybe a |
| 15318s | bit the last couple couple of turns but |
| 15320s | kind of pulled ahead in terms of hard |
| 15321s | Advantage but |
| 15324s | meaty put on more pressure and I forced |
| 15327s | like you said forced those early Alibis |
| 15329s | and now just this is kind of it |
| 15338s | and now this should just be plenty |
| 15340s | available |
| 15343s | that's just going to be game with the |
| 15346s | reverberations on the null garden and |
| 15348s | that was just game one and honestly |
| 15350s | taking nothing really away from ueq and |
| 15352s | that must have felt great for as a start |
| 15355s | for meeting this winners match right and |
| 15357s | the winner of this just moves on to |
| 15358s | tomorrow and they're done for the day |
| 15360s | and game one just went about as smoothly |
| 15362s | as it could get meaty wasn't really |
| 15364s | pressured in any way there might have |
| 15366s | been the moments where I was thinking |
| 15368s | okay my opponent's got a lot of cards |
| 15369s | how much damage relatively can they do |
| 15371s | but without any build up damage right |
| 15374s | because we saw very early on ueq was |
| 15376s | down to what 20-ish health and that's in |
| 15379s | the danger zone then right you just |
| 15380s | think okay one or two more turns and I'm |
| 15382s | dead and the Alibis just had to come out |
| 15384s | thick and fast whereas meti could have |
| 15387s | played an alibi whenever he wanted and |
| 15389s | never even really needed to he was that |
| 15391s | far ahead which is so strange |
| 15392s | considering one player just had safe |
| 15395s | ready to go at all times and the other |
| 15397s | player did not and but still that was a |
| 15399s | great game one for meeting one zero so |
| 15402s | far uh that was a tricky one of a I |
| 15404s | think rough way to start the matchup for |
| 15406s | you again |
| 15407s | yeah absolutely I I mean especially |
| 15409s | considering as you've said things like |
| 15411s | stiff already waiting in hand there was |
| 15413s | some damage uh it felt like he was kind |
| 15415s | of ahead with playing all of the |
| 15418s | different spell schools but just really |
| 15419s | it felt like it really kind of came down |
| 15422s | to a I have to decide between playing my |
| 15425s | things and stopping what my opponent is |
| 15427s | doing and there just wasn't enough Mana |
| 15430s | there wasn't enough resources to do both |
| 15432s | at the same time |
| 15434s | yeah looking really good for me to got |
| 15436s | the Mage out the way and with the shame |
| 15439s | and burns uh oh I've lost my list now uh |
| 15442s | but meaty still has uh the Rogue I |
| 15445s | believe and |
| 15446s | um and the Demon Hunter that's it the |
| 15449s | team of the A's playing Outcast right |
| 15450s | yeah I just couldn't remember the last X |
| 15451s | I've just closed all my deck lists which |
| 15453s | is great midcast it's a great play to |
| 15456s | make yeah but yeah so uh just game one |
| 15458s | of course there's still plenty of other |
| 15459s | games uh coming up of not only this |
| 15461s | match but plenty more matches for the |
| 15463s | rest of the day so make sure to stay |
| 15465s | tuned to find out who's gonna make it to |
| 15467s | tomorrow as we move into game two meaty |
| 15469s | gonna be jumping on that MEC Rogue going |
| 15471s | back to the Mage once again yeah have |
| 15473s | you played much Mech Rogue so far though |
| 15476s | uh you know I did kind of early on in |
| 15478s | the expansion But ultimately decided |
| 15481s | that especially prepping for this |
| 15483s | tournament I kind of wanted to focus a |
| 15484s | little bit more on like Mage and Shaman |
| 15486s | and some of those otk style Decks that I |
| 15489s | personally typically don't play a ton of |
| 15492s | uh so I kind of focused in that |
| 15494s | direction and but you know not only |
| 15496s | playing a little bit less we also did |
| 15498s | kind of recently have a Nerf to uh one |
| 15502s | of the cards that was being played in |
| 15504s | Mech Rogue and a lot of people kind of |
| 15506s | dropped it as well so it kind of faded |
| 15508s | out for a little bit came back in uh |
| 15510s | also talking about this Mech Rogue we |
| 15512s | see that got pitched in the Mulligan |
| 15515s | midi actually that opting to run that |
| 15518s | v07 Tron the Voltron Titan which not all |
| 15523s | of the macro glists are including |
| 15526s | yeah that's what we talked about earlier |
| 15527s | just the uh all the players it's such a |
| 15529s | great time for a tournament because |
| 15531s | everything's still in the mix right like |
| 15533s | I imagine prepping for this tournament |
| 15535s | as a player must have been one stressful |
| 15538s | but two also fun because it does feel |
| 15540s | like you can be a pretty experimental |
| 15542s | here and we're gonna see an early |
| 15543s | mimarron come out and now our Havoc will |
| 15546s | no doubt into you |
| 15549s | yeah getting that mimarron out early is |
| 15552s | so it's just so impressive honestly I |
| 15556s | feel like especially because this five |
| 15558s | health is is a little bit difficult for |
| 15560s | some of these decks to deal with |
| 15562s | especially this early and it's gonna be |
| 15564s | a little bit of work for uq to try to |
| 15567s | actually answer this before midi's able |
| 15569s | to start snowballing it |
| 15572s | yeah especially with the coolant in |
| 15573s | hands like you may take it just do a lot |
| 15576s | of absurd things next turn uh just based |
| 15579s | off the hand that we are looking at now |
| 15581s | never mind how that hand May uh progress |
| 15583s | going forward there is going to be the |
| 15584s | keyboard into the flame because as well |
| 15586s | which is going to help a little bit but |
| 15589s | as you mentioned oh there's Voltron as |
| 15591s | you mentioned the member on just pretty |
| 15593s | much guaranteed to just sit there and be |
| 15595s | happy for a turn can really make things |
| 15597s | accelerate |
| 15598s | especially with the spider in hand as |
| 15600s | well |
| 15601s | yeah absolutely I mean stealth is is |
| 15604s | kind of a big keyword for this rogue |
| 15609s | deck as well |
| 15610s | um we talked about or heard about wind |
| 15612s | Fury right yeah that can be definitely |
| 15615s | something uh as we saw in the previous |
| 15617s | series kind of at the end being able to |
| 15619s | heal up with lifesteal also very |
| 15622s | impactful but against Decks that are |
| 15624s | trying to play these spells from hand |
| 15625s | trying to do other things to Target uh |
| 15628s | being able to stealth this big body and |
| 15632s | then be able to to do additional things |
| 15633s | with it the following turn pretty |
| 15635s | important |
| 15637s | yeah I think the only thing meat is |
| 15639s | missing right now is just uh a few more |
| 15642s | minions to be able to play out right |
| 15644s | like voltron's a little bit ways away |
| 15645s | that's okay the oscillator's something |
| 15647s | oh wait no of course the coolant never |
| 15649s | mind it's not for you turns away because |
| 15651s | considering I talked about the coolant |
| 15653s | about 30 seconds ago I quickly just |
| 15655s | forgot I existed for a second there yeah |
| 15657s | that's a big big deal just being able to |
| 15659s | drop that down and now |
| 15661s | uq's got to be sweating |
| 15663s | yeah and uh this is an interesting |
| 15665s | choice for the Titan yeah I think either |
| 15668s | choosing the can't be targeted kind of |
| 15671s | along the same lines of stealth that we |
| 15673s | were just talking about that could be |
| 15674s | pretty impactful but also with only one |
| 15677s | four Health minion and then face on |
| 15679s | board going for a little bit of a buff |
| 15681s | and dealing four uh twice also didn't |
| 15684s | seem like that bad of an option |
| 15687s | yeah I think I like this though because |
| 15688s | I feel like if these stick it only gets |
| 15691s | worse for ueq right like it just goes |
| 15694s | downhill and we saw the uh the rewinder |
| 15697s | which is effectively sap uh going out |
| 15699s | there to defend them even more because |
| 15701s | you've just got to think at this point |
| 15704s | what is the plan here for the Mage |
| 15706s | player like what is the out because this |
| 15709s | just feels like you're trying to Stave |
| 15710s | off disaster even though it's already |
| 15712s | happened |
| 15713s | uh yes absolutely I think the plan is |
| 15716s | survive as long as possible and hope it |
| 15719s | all comes together but it's feeling a |
| 15722s | little dire already it really I think it |
| 15725s | pretty much was just roll the perfect |
| 15727s | card from a different class right it's |
| 15729s | like yeah find a card that deals with |
| 15732s | this somehow in any possible way and I |
| 15736s | don't |
| 15736s | think |
| 15739s | it really does anything let's clean the |
| 15741s | scene but |
| 15742s | it |
| 15744s | that's gonna be it's not just too far |
| 15747s | away |
| 15748s | so expensive too |
| 15752s | yeah it goes for it anyways but yeah I |
| 15755s | guess it might be I guess at this point |
| 15756s | it's just |
| 15758s | you've got to go for the long shots |
| 15760s | right it's just one of those things |
| 15762s | where it's like right I'm in a bad |
| 15764s | situation |
| 15765s | yeah I'll play as if things are going to |
| 15767s | go my way to get out of this situation |
| 15770s | yeah also I think this uh this use of |
| 15773s | the you know putting something back in |
| 15775s | your hand creating another body on board |
| 15777s | it's not ideal but it also does mean |
| 15780s | that an additional spell school was |
| 15781s | played with that being a shadow spell uh |
| 15784s | which could be just building up these |
| 15786s | inquisitive Creations here to try to |
| 15789s | eliminate stuff off the board but I |
| 15791s | don't still don't think it's gonna be |
| 15792s | enough well I think it's important |
| 15794s | because it helps with the Infuse right |
| 15795s | because if this gets infused the cleaner |
| 15798s | scene then it will kill both minions I |
| 15800s | mean unless there's enough magnetized to |
| 15802s | put it out of your range but again |
| 15804s | meaty's not going to play around the |
| 15805s | discovered uh infused going back to the |
| 15810s | ueq's just got to do the long shots and |
| 15812s | hope they work out right I think that's |
| 15814s | what's gonna happen |
| 15818s | yeah I mean I guess at this point maybe |
| 15821s | like a Shard of the Naru like uh you if |
| 15824s | you got last game right right it would |
| 15827s | help but still I mean at the rate that |
| 15829s | this game has been going would that even |
| 15832s | be enough |
| 15836s | yeah outside of a very specific you know |
| 15840s | killer thing or remover thing card |
| 15843s | even the member on now is just it's too |
| 15846s | big right it's just it's the stats don't |
| 15849s | matter anymore because it is simply too |
| 15851s | large |
| 15853s | I mean and the the added can't be |
| 15856s | targeted is also really helping media at |
| 15860s | this point as well |
| 15863s | is this still clean the scene though |
| 15867s | it probably has to be right so I think |
| 15869s | if that one one goes in |
| 15871s | it'll kill the um the Voltron and the |
| 15874s | three one right |
| 15887s | molten Rune okay random spell time yeah |
| 15890s | going for those outs |
| 15905s | yeah those seem a little slow going for |
| 15908s | the the rush and heal but I don't know |
| 15910s | if if this is it okay go away find me |
| 15913s | something better yeah and that's the |
| 15916s | problem right every option ueq's had has |
| 15918s | just been like this would be good if I |
| 15921s | had 10 more Mana right yeah but not |
| 15924s | really been available to to do now and I |
| 15926s | think this is just a yeah I said the |
| 15929s | beginning of the end I think it's just |
| 15930s | the end or very likely to be anyway |
| 15932s | yeah I mean I think not having an answer |
| 15935s | for for the memorand over multiple turns |
| 15939s | from that start just really kind of |
| 15941s | started the downfall uh this Finley did |
| 15944s | pick up a solid alibi |
| 15947s | I guess that is something right |
| 15951s | I'm stretching I agree it's something |
| 15954s | yes it's a car and there we go yeah not |
| 15957s | too much of a surprise there because |
| 15959s | again it was looking Grim I think uq |
| 15961s | obviously did their best to to fight |
| 15963s | back and try and you know if there's |
| 15965s | ever a deck that's gonna oh crazy a |
| 15968s | little bit Demon Hunter on the way um if |
| 15970s | there's ever a deck that's going to |
| 15972s | generate you know some |
| 15974s | unforeseen circumstance to actually be |
| 15977s | able to uh answer cards with like |
| 15979s | untargetable or crazy amounts of Health |
| 15981s | it's probably going to be made uh |
| 15984s | apologies oh there we go I think we |
| 15985s | exist now yes there we are apologies |
| 15987s | about that we're real we're still here I |
| 15989s | know you'd miss us if we went away Chen |
| 15991s | um but yeah that was definitely a rough |
| 15993s | matchup and suddenly in the blink of an |
| 15995s | eye metis 2-0 up uh are we gonna see a |
| 15998s | 3-0 because if so this would be um |
| 16000s | absolutely brutal honestly to see |
| 16002s | because these matchups have been rough |
| 16005s | at best for YouTube |
| 16007s | you know I I think that if if this is a |
| 16010s | 3-0 sweep I feel like I'm just gonna |
| 16012s | have to take the blame because both of |
| 16014s | the the kids the matches and the series |
| 16017s | that I've casted today would have gone |
| 16018s | just uh 3-0 even though we have seen |
| 16021s | quite a bit of game fours game fives uh |
| 16025s | reverse sweeps even and uh yeah uh I'll |
| 16028s | just say if it is then cast a curse I'm |
| 16031s | so sorry to those players but it's fine |
| 16033s | I'm making I'm making notes now if I if |
| 16036s | I ever need a shorter work day I will |
| 16039s | request a cast with you at all times uh |
| 16041s | because it seems like that's how it's |
| 16043s | gonna work but yeah I mean we're gonna |
| 16044s | watch a replay but really if you blink |
| 16046s | you missed it uh it was memorand uh nice |
| 16049s | and early there for me too and then the |
| 16051s | rest of the story unfolds in that three |
| 16053s | second clip of uh yuku getting |
| 16055s | absolutely obliterated so we are going |
| 16057s | to see miti uh end up with just the uh |
| 16059s | the outcast Demon Hunter left uh what |
| 16062s | have you made of outcast because |
| 16063s | obviously in in recent history there has |
| 16066s | been you know Outcast Demon Hunter A |
| 16068s | Relic Demon Hunter into very popular |
| 16070s | lists but what do you make of outcast in |
| 16072s | this meta specifically like what do you |
| 16074s | think it it does that makes it worth |
| 16076s | bringing for not just meaty but a few |
| 16078s | players in this tournament |
| 16080s | uh yeah absolutely I I was bringing this |
| 16082s | up when lorenda and I were casting |
| 16084s | earlier I am a I'm a huge fan of the |
| 16087s | outcast DH right now I think it's |
| 16088s | actually pretty decent into this meta |
| 16091s | and honestly probably a solid like |
| 16093s | fourth deck right that's that's one |
| 16094s | thing in Conquest we have to see yeah |
| 16096s | foreign |
| 16105s | uh as you mentioned we're not that far |
| 16108s | out from the expansion and kind of these |
| 16109s | these otk decks and I think that some of |
| 16113s | these players might also be bringing |
| 16114s | Outcast DH as the deck that they're |
| 16116s | already very familiar with so they don't |
| 16118s | really have to relearn four different |
| 16121s | decks they can kind of bring in some of |
| 16123s | these Decks that they're already |
| 16124s | familiar with and maybe just kind of see |
| 16126s | how they pair up into some of the other |
| 16128s | Decks that maybe are a little bit newer |
| 16130s | and that can help especially when you're |
| 16132s | going into these matches that you're |
| 16135s | really looking to get solid wins if |
| 16138s | you're already very comfortable with a |
| 16139s | deck that can definitely go a long way |
| 16142s | yeah and I think um it's one of those |
| 16144s | things where a lot of the decks uh it it |
| 16147s | it's something we're probably going to |
| 16148s | bring up all weekend but even the Decks |
| 16150s | that are doing big bursts in the late |
| 16152s | game they want to be winning the early |
| 16154s | game right like look at the the Mage |
| 16156s | mirror we cast at the start of this |
| 16158s | match where both decks want to do big |
| 16160s | burst but the deck that got on board |
| 16162s | early applied all of the pressure and |
| 16165s | suddenly the big burst didn't need to be |
| 16166s | so big anymore and I think that's a big |
| 16169s | deal with this Outcast Demon Hunter |
| 16170s | where it doesn't well okay it does have |
| 16172s | options to burst damage but just not |
| 16175s | like the the with spells strictly but um |
| 16178s | but I think the getting on board and not |
| 16180s | letting your opponent get on board early |
| 16182s | is something that's very powerful as |
| 16184s | we've seen as we step into turn two for |
| 16186s | meaty and already there is a flurry of |
| 16188s | minions attacking Yuki |
| 16190s | yeah and it's very interesting I think |
| 16193s | into some matchups as well like you're |
| 16195s | saying this early damage well some of |
| 16198s | these decks don't really have great ways |
| 16200s | to answer those early boards and as we |
| 16203s | see here as well uh Yuki has a super |
| 16206s | clunky hand as well which is certainly |
| 16208s | not helping maybe coining into this cold |
| 16211s | case can stall a little bit of this |
| 16213s | damage puts a couple Minions on boards |
| 16215s | it kind of can test the this Onslaught |
| 16217s | from meaty but is it enough to win in |
| 16220s | the long run and how how do you keep |
| 16223s | going about that I like the lighting |
| 16225s | Nash jar as well in hand potentially if |
| 16227s | that's followed up behind the cold case |
| 16229s | it adds additional armor that can help |
| 16232s | and that might just kind of delay the |
| 16234s | game long enough for Yuki to find some |
| 16237s | of those other answers |
| 16241s | hold on to everything nope |
| 16243s | forget everything we just said right |
| 16245s | yeah oh look you know what I said it |
| 16248s | wasn't through Spells at this detected |
| 16250s | burst damage yeah that's it that's the |
| 16253s | one million damage being being thrown |
| 16254s | out there and |
| 16256s | still not looking too good there's some |
| 16259s | clear now but the problem is what |
| 16261s | happens to the the dark Raven right like |
| 16264s | now it's the problem of well you can |
| 16266s | clear a bit but not all if you can't |
| 16268s | clear all you're dead |
| 16270s | mm-hmm yeah and I I think if it hadn't |
| 16274s | been exactly that dark Raven there the |
| 16277s | uh the pickup of the inquisitive |
| 16279s | creation looked pretty good but yeah |
| 16282s | yeah not clearing enough ultimately |
| 16286s | yeah really tricky as well though |
| 16287s | because obviously like how there is |
| 16289s | there but matey had glaivetar as well so |
| 16291s | yeah there was still plenty obviously |
| 16293s | not this level of damage and threat but |
| 16296s | there was still damage coming out for |
| 16298s | meaty and and Yuki was still uh |
| 16300s | clutching for some kind of way to get |
| 16302s | some work done here it's gonna be Arcane |
| 16304s | bought and then coin creation I guess |
| 16306s | yeah I I don't really see any other way |
| 16311s | it's something yeah as you mentioned |
| 16314s | there's still quite a bit of damage with |
| 16315s | things like the glaive tar uh meaty |
| 16318s | absolutely could just set that up |
| 16320s | at that hero power damage but it's not |
| 16323s | enough for lethal this turn but it does |
| 16325s | set up a potential two turn lethal |
| 16327s | yeah and I'm just staring now trying to |
| 16330s | think while the hawk Striders on board |
| 16332s | is yeah okay gonna play the Minion and |
| 16334s | go into Clive okay I did wonder if miti |
| 16336s | was gonna go for the spectral site but I |
| 16338s | guess this can always be outcast next |
| 16341s | turn uh but with this play as well puts |
| 16343s | the most damage in face and now |
| 16346s | it's that same issue we sort of saw in |
| 16348s | the Mage mirror at the beginning where |
| 16350s | is there enough Mana to tick all these |
| 16352s | boxes right clear the board and not die |
| 16355s | to The Collector uh there is the |
| 16357s | artificer now so that is something |
| 16359s | especially with the cold case but it |
| 16362s | just feels like a delay in the |
| 16364s | inevitable at this point |
| 16365s | yeah it really does |
| 16369s | I |
| 16370s | like that's just been the story through |
| 16372s | this whole this whole match all of these |
| 16375s | games so far the third game |
| 16378s | not breaking that pattern midi just |
| 16380s | absolutely getting on board or putting |
| 16382s | on the pressure every single game and |
| 16386s | what a way to go found the lethal yeah |
| 16390s | the mental fortitude to be able to |
| 16393s | lethal yourself after this series is |
| 16397s | absolutely magnificent and I applaud it |
| 16399s | because that is the way to go out and to |
| 16402s | be able to just do that fair enough but |
| 16404s | yeah the meat man taking the match three |
| 16407s | zero |
| 16408s | that's exactly what you want your day to |
| 16410s | look like right if you're playing in a |
| 16412s | tournament they're stacked with this |
| 16413s | much on the line a world championship |
| 16415s | spot is to just say yeah I got into my |
| 16418s | winners match and now I just thrilled in |
| 16420s | about 10 minutes and then uh yeah I'm |
| 16421s | gonna go chill out watch the rest of the |
| 16423s | tournament go to bed early get some rest |
| 16424s | for the next day uh as meat man now he's |
| 16427s | gonna move on like it was another short |
| 16429s | and sweet one but any highlights for you |
| 16431s | from this very short series done |
| 16434s | um yeah I just I I think that overall it |
| 16437s | seems like me was able to really just |
| 16438s | recognize the lines where he was putting |
| 16440s | on the most amount of pressure and that |
| 16443s | just seems like something very good to |
| 16444s | do in Hearthstone in general but I think |
| 16447s | in this meta as well just applying that |
| 16448s | pressure and forcing your opponent to |
| 16450s | have answers for it and sometimes they |
| 16453s | do sometimes they don't and uh oh uq |
| 16456s | just did not really have the answers for |
| 16458s | it this time around |
| 16459s | yeah well that one went past in the |
| 16461s | blink of an eye but there's still plenty |
| 16462s | more Hearthstone coming up so we're |
| 16464s | gonna go to a quick break throughout the |
| 16465s | next match so don't go anywhere and |
| 16467s | we'll be right back |
| 16485s | foreign |
| 16555s | foreign |
| 16560s | [Music] |
| 16566s | [Music] |
| 16578s | [Music] |
| 16593s | [Music] |
| 16604s | [Music] |
| 16611s | thank you |
| 16622s | [Music] |
| 16626s | foreign |
| 16627s | [Music] |
| 16636s | [Music] |
| 16661s | [Music] |
| 16686s | beautiful |
| 16701s | [Music] |
| 16707s | foreign |
| 16724s | [Music] |
| 16742s | [Music] |
| 16772s | foreign |
| 16775s | foreign |
| 16783s | [Music] |
| 16806s | [Music] |
| 16816s | [Music] |
| 16824s | foreign |
| 16827s | [Music] |
| 16856s | thank you |
| 16858s | Hello everybody welcome back to the |
| 16860s | Master's tour summer Championship my |
| 16862s | name is TJ I'm joined by saddle my good |
| 16865s | pal Long Time Pal solo so how you doing |
| 16870s | little buddy I'm feeling much more |
| 16872s | comfortable I'm on the correct side TJ |
| 16874s | Everything feels normal again I know |
| 16875s | which way left is I know which way right |
| 16877s | is this is this is fantastic I'm doing |
| 16879s | great |
| 16880s | um even more so because we've been |
| 16881s | watching some some sweet high-level |
| 16883s | Hearthstone we've been watching some |
| 16884s | sweet high-level Hearthstone that has |
| 16886s | also had really silly mistakes in it |
| 16888s | which is extra fun like that's the best |
| 16890s | kind of hearthstone like not just from |
| 16893s | the players as well from the casters |
| 16894s | like everyone's everyone's throwing it's |
| 16896s | incredible this is the best kind of |
| 16897s | hearthstone to watch by far |
| 16900s | yeah what what do you think this is a |
| 16902s | product of subtle this subpar |
| 16905s | Hearthstone is it the lack of oh you |
| 16907s | know |
| 16909s | I mean first things first don't be |
| 16911s | putting words in my mouth I didn't say |
| 16912s | subpar this is this is fantastic |
| 16914s | genuinely I just think the game's really |
| 16916s | hard to play optimally right now which |
| 16917s | is why we're seeing like even at this |
| 16919s | level |
| 16921s | um people are getting into spots where |
| 16923s | the the best line isn't necessarily |
| 16925s | immediately apparent right and |
| 16927s | questionable lines or outright mistakes |
| 16929s | are happening I think that's I think |
| 16931s | it's a good thing I think that's |
| 16932s | something to be celebrated right if |
| 16933s | everyone could play the game perfectly |
| 16935s | there'd be no point in having this |
| 16936s | tournament |
| 16942s | [Music] |
| 16944s | oh I suppose I see I I paused politely |
| 16946s | to allow TJ to respond to my point but |
| 16949s | apparently he's having some technical |
| 16950s | difficulties so I guess I'll follow up |
| 16952s | my own Point instead talk about meaty |
| 16954s | doing very well to get out of group a |
| 16955s | we'd see uh I'm not sure if we saw you |
| 16957s | qualifying through into B |
| 16961s | oh I see TJ's having some serious issues |
| 16963s | because now we just cut in in the middle |
| 16965s | of my sentence responding to the last |
| 16966s | thing I said I'll just keep powering |
| 16968s | through dear viewers it's fine but we |
| 16970s | did uh get gamer rvg losing the |
| 16973s | qualifying game uh dropping down to |
| 16975s | deciders in group b we will now be |
| 16977s | focusing on uh that decider match Casey |
| 16980s | and gamer rvg for our broadcast match |
| 16982s | that myself and hopefully TJ if he |
| 16985s | returns from the depths are going to |
| 16987s | bring you |
| 16988s | um but certainly very interested in |
| 16990s | seeing a gamer rvg play because it looks |
| 16992s | like he had a very similar lineup to |
| 16994s | what mcbante faces bringing which looks |
| 16996s | like a solid lineup all around uh this |
| 16998s | one we did follow through uh quite a lot |
| 17000s | of we saw pocket train picking up the |
| 17002s | big tree over dredi in some real clutch |
| 17006s | circumstances a couple of absolute nail |
| 17008s | biters back and forth uh pocket train |
| 17011s | taking the the risky lines let's say |
| 17013s | with the shaman uh getting punished for |
| 17015s | it once and then very nearly getting |
| 17017s | punished for it a second time but |
| 17020s | escaping with by the skin of his team in |
| 17022s | the end and then we've seen Gabby Gabby |
| 17024s | calling his shot really like Gabby is |
| 17027s | Gabby anyone who knows Gabby will be |
| 17029s | familiar with the the projected |
| 17031s | confidence and the ego and everything |
| 17033s | that comes along with Gabby but I think |
| 17035s | most importantly Gabby caught his shot |
| 17037s | he said everyone in this tournament is |
| 17038s | free and so far Gabby has been |
| 17040s | absolutely backing that up |
| 17045s | testing to okay still nothing are you |
| 17048s | there CJ we oh you have no order okay |
| 17051s | wonderful |
| 17052s | um yeah I think TJ has called to uh |
| 17055s | Gabby's called two shot specifically one |
| 17058s | being that he was gonna beat everyone |
| 17059s | very easily and secondly that he was a |
| 17061s | god at Naga Mage which he executed on as |
| 17065s | well because we saw that turn that I |
| 17067s | called out to Raven like this is where |
| 17069s | the Gabby would have killed him meme |
| 17071s | comes in and he absolutely did kill them |
| 17073s | on that term with the uh the siren |
| 17076s | Reverb generate Manor Sif coming down |
| 17079s | otk uh turn so Gabby absolutely |
| 17082s | threatening to Just Wind the clock back |
| 17084s | a year or two and absolutely run away |
| 17086s | with this tournament |
| 17088s | how we doing TJ |
| 17096s | oh I see yeah okay thanks |
| 17101s | okay and now all sorts of tech problems |
| 17106s | um from my end apologies |
| 17110s | because you just talk to yourself |
| 17113s | I couldn't hear you on Discord I muted |
| 17116s | myself on the Stream |
| 17118s | so that I wouldn't say anything and talk |
| 17121s | over you and then when I came back and |
| 17123s | was finally with you I was muted |
| 17127s | uh so you were just laughing to yourself |
| 17129s | but yeah |
| 17131s | I I feel like we're doing great TJ |
| 17133s | honestly I feel like doing great |
| 17135s | everything great start precisely is |
| 17136s | planned we're doing well great start |
| 17138s | yeah |
| 17139s | um so |
| 17142s | I love now that we have like nature |
| 17145s | Shaman and rainbow Mage that you look at |
| 17147s | their deckless on these bio pages |
| 17150s | and it's like nature rainbow miracle |
| 17155s | secrets |
| 17157s | is this Hearthstone or a book I'm |
| 17159s | reading my three-year-old |
| 17162s | oh geez my kids only read like books |
| 17165s | about dinosaurs so recently they got |
| 17166s | into uh Captain Underpants |
| 17169s | which is actually genius writing it's |
| 17173s | like a book for kids I think it's |
| 17174s | probably like the age age group would be |
| 17176s | like probably seven to ten years old |
| 17179s | that sounds like something Lorinda says |
| 17181s | when he forgets the name of a card |
| 17182s | [Laughter] |
| 17185s | Captain Underpants nature rainbow |
| 17188s | miracle |
| 17191s | it's a secret |
| 17193s | don't tell anybody about the nature the |
| 17196s | rainbows and the Miracles it's a secret |
| 17199s | wow I mean honestly this is my favorite |
| 17201s | uh fun fact of the day so far Casey |
| 17204s | incredibly has once won a game of pasta |
| 17206s | that is incredible scenes to be quite |
| 17209s | honest |
| 17210s | amazing |
| 17214s | like I said one favorite classes Rogue |
| 17217s | well funnily enough |
| 17218s | we're gonna highlight the miracle Rogue |
| 17221s | um very odd most players opted for |
| 17224s | the uh |
| 17227s | macrogue but both players in this series |
| 17230s | having the miracle rope |
| 17232s | yeah I know something that we've seen a |
| 17234s | great deal of so far we have seen our |
| 17236s | fair share of macro I think um meaty and |
| 17240s | pocket in quick succession I think on |
| 17241s | stream both Rock and the the mech Rogue |
| 17243s | so we've kind of got used to that so far |
| 17245s | but this is kind of just the the Casey |
| 17248s | deck right like this is the |
| 17249s | quintessential Casey deck he was kind of |
| 17252s | responsible for various iterations of |
| 17254s | this build step by step and it feels |
| 17256s | like some kind of you know concoction |
| 17259s | location big ghosts Rogue has been |
| 17262s | around ever since those cards appeared |
| 17264s | and Casey has largely been responsible |
| 17267s | for finding the optimal lists of most of |
| 17269s | those variations throughout various |
| 17271s | expansions uh particularly because it's |
| 17273s | a deck that just continues to survive |
| 17275s | the Nerf Hammer right like one card gets |
| 17277s | touched then chain like Draka gets |
| 17279s | touched okay cool we won't play dracker |
| 17281s | anymore location gets changed okay we |
| 17283s | just play these other threats so we |
| 17284s | don't have to go all in on ghosts |
| 17285s | anymore like Casey has really been top |
| 17288s | of that list of people who've been |
| 17289s | keeping this deck relevant and it is a |
| 17291s | real it's the kind of deck where the |
| 17292s | people that like it love it right like |
| 17295s | they have deep emotional connection with |
| 17297s | this deck I think possibly banterface in |
| 17299s | like the Q a listed it is is one of his |
| 17302s | favorite decks of all time so |
| 17304s | um worth highlighting I think since we |
| 17306s | haven't really seen it make too much of |
| 17307s | an impact on the tournament just yet |
| 17310s | yeah there will always be meta games |
| 17312s | where just vomiting a ton of stats onto |
| 17314s | the board and going all in on on any |
| 17317s | given turn is going to be strong right |
| 17320s | uh and I I feel like this is one of |
| 17323s | those meta games if things start to head |
| 17325s | more towards like control decks with |
| 17327s | wide removal |
| 17328s | maybe it changes maybe Miracle rogue's |
| 17330s | not as good anymore |
| 17332s | um but for right now at this point in |
| 17334s | time I think it is it also has |
| 17336s | significant amounts of disruption in the |
| 17340s | form of both a double speaker stomper |
| 17341s | double Colt neophyte |
| 17344s | um so just being able to like |
| 17346s | get all this weird chip damage in by |
| 17350s | just making your opponent's spells cost |
| 17352s | more |
| 17353s | is relevant most of the decks in the |
| 17355s | metagame are very heavily spell based uh |
| 17359s | and so being able to easily fit those |
| 17362s | into a lineup I think is uh |
| 17365s | is quite good so we'll see how it fares |
| 17367s | we're gonna start off with Mage versus |
| 17369s | Mage mage |
| 17373s | it is funny you kind of forget cult |
| 17375s | nearby exists as a card you can actually |
| 17377s | put in your deck until Rogue comes along |
| 17379s | like there's something about the fact |
| 17380s | you get to play shadow step in your deck |
| 17382s | that makes cult near fight a very |
| 17383s | attractive uh disruption card for Rogues |
| 17385s | to play but uh not really any other |
| 17387s | classes particularly but we have seen |
| 17389s | our fair share of Mage mirrors |
| 17391s | throughout the day both in the uh |
| 17394s | rainbow vs rainbow form and also rainbow |
| 17396s | versus Naga we have seen a significant |
| 17398s | amount of as well |
| 17400s | um so looking forward to kick this one |
| 17401s | off Casey does have a pretty smooth |
| 17403s | opening curve no weapon right now for |
| 17406s | either player though which is uh kind of |
| 17408s | the defining part of the early game |
| 17410s | right if one player gets weapon the |
| 17411s | other doesn't well we've very clearly |
| 17413s | established who the aggro is in the |
| 17415s | matchup if that happens |
| 17421s | I missed this bunk bed oh man |
| 17425s | oh I'd forgotten all about the bunk bed |
| 17428s | so much lore just behind one bunk bed |
| 17431s | who is it who's hanging out on top it's |
| 17433s | fled right it's fled that's up there |
| 17435s | just off camera is that right blood's |
| 17436s | still up there yeah okay gaming away |
| 17440s | it's hard to keep up with with all the |
| 17442s | America's law you know like |
| 17444s | it's it's vast deep |
| 17449s | vast intertwined |
| 17451s | full of rainbows made and miracle ropes |
| 17460s | soon in there |
| 17462s | I did yeah not too many Secrets though |
| 17464s | because yeah you and Lorinda will just |
| 17466s | blare out everything to the audience so |
| 17468s | it's hard to keep a secret under those |
| 17469s | circumstances oh tear reality |
| 17474s | ghost kind of with the Infinitis the max |
| 17476s | dude you hit ice block |
| 17483s | it's just Gateway right yeah I was |
| 17485s | talking in the earlier series about how |
| 17488s | this is a card that can be overlooked |
| 17490s | Until you realize but |
| 17492s | um with both variations of Mage actually |
| 17495s | with all three variations of Mage |
| 17496s | because you can play Naga Mage without |
| 17498s | the Creations in it as well and then |
| 17500s | that still draws a Mech because the |
| 17502s | amalgams in the deck are still a Mech |
| 17504s | like sometimes it's easy to forget that |
| 17505s | you are playing pretty high value met |
| 17507s | cards in your Deckers mage |
| 17509s | yeah but |
| 17511s | this block is so cool what happens with |
| 17515s | all of the other cards that aren't ice |
| 17517s | block TJ hahaha |
| 17527s | I want you to go through and name every |
| 17530s | possible card it could be that is an ice |
| 17532s | block and explain whether that is good |
| 17534s | or bad |
| 17540s | why do I get the feeling TJ's about I |
| 17542s | don't think |
| 17546s | hello |
| 17548s | hi yeah sorry you did the thing where |
| 17550s | you'd like vanished into the future for |
| 17552s | a second and then responded to the thing |
| 17553s | I said 20 seconds ago |
| 17559s | I'm just gonna assume that TJ's gone |
| 17561s | again dear views |
| 17564s | Casey dropping the Cold Case |
| 17566s | once again no no the player has weapon |
| 17568s | which is a good sign for uh if you don't |
| 17571s | have weapon the fact your opponent does |
| 17573s | not have weapon as well at least gives |
| 17574s | you some sort of compensation |
| 17580s | gamer probably just responding kind |
| 17587s | uh it sounds better now yeah what's up |
| 17589s | hello |
| 17591s | I think so |
| 17594s | if you're responding to what I'm saying |
| 17596s | right now say broccoli |
| 17599s | perfect we've nailed it |
| 17606s | broccoli |
| 17608s | I said it later because I was muted |
| 17609s | again because I was like but you heard |
| 17611s | me when I said it for the first time |
| 17613s | that's gonna be the most confusing |
| 17615s | possible thing |
| 17618s | oh no okay |
| 17622s | yeah sometimes in Florida they just make |
| 17624s | the internet slower |
| 17625s | that makes sense |
| 17627s | it's one of the perks so incentivize you |
| 17630s | to go outside in the 115 degree heat |
| 17632s | indexed heat |
| 17635s | yeah it's actually a conspiracy by the |
| 17637s | alligators they have to they sabotage |
| 17639s | everyone's internet to drive them |
| 17641s | outside so they can eat them yep |
| 17645s | that's true |
| 17647s | their numbers are dwindling so they need |
| 17650s | to make a power move quick are they |
| 17652s | actually is that is that part real no |
| 17655s | idea oh okay |
| 17660s | be sad though |
| 17662s | they're so iconic |
| 17664s | so powerful |
| 17665s | go Gators |
| 17674s | somewhere in a distant Universe Robert |
| 17676s | Wing punches |
| 17688s | so it is Jill's ice block |
| 17691s | oh were you talking about Firelands |
| 17693s | portal I don't think we caught that was |
| 17695s | yeah okay yeah we heard that I can't |
| 17699s | even name a single card out of the nice |
| 17700s | block all I see when I see terriality is |
| 17702s | my chance to get ice block oh it's the |
| 17705s | ice block card no yeah |
| 17712s | I like this by the way I think this is |
| 17714s | an underrated play that people don't |
| 17716s | necessarily do a lot like that is a nine |
| 17718s | Health swing between the two majors as |
| 17720s | well as getting another potential spell |
| 17722s | School played and a little bit of extra |
| 17723s | Tempo on board Plus |
| 17725s | some potentially worthwhile cards that |
| 17727s | you can play on the following turn as |
| 17728s | well I think just straight up Dome them |
| 17730s | with a with a Juiced up molten Rune is |
| 17732s | something that players don't necessarily |
| 17733s | do enough |
| 17735s | yeah Casey does play one so that's |
| 17736s | something to note |
| 17738s | um |
| 17739s | some players opt to play two yada yada |
| 17742s | but uh he's just playing one but you can |
| 17745s | still get there with Arcane bolts and |
| 17748s | Flame geysers what have you uh when it |
| 17751s | comes to Sif |
| 17752s | if that's even needed sometimes you can |
| 17754s | just juice them down |
| 17756s | but with artificial existing gets a |
| 17759s | little bit tougher |
| 17761s | so spell schools sufficiently Juiced now |
| 17764s | for Casey I think it'll be four four |
| 17767s | fives on the following turn uh gamer |
| 17770s | would have the initiative to go first |
| 17772s | here and not sure what spell schools are |
| 17774s | out there's a wisdom in hand so there |
| 17776s | looks like three spell schools have been |
| 17777s | played based on the cost of wisdom which |
| 17780s | certainly would be played here if gamer |
| 17782s | has it and I'm sure Casey is hoping that |
| 17784s | it isn't I think with every moment this |
| 17786s | passes it passes this term without four |
| 17788s | or five Elementals appearing on the |
| 17789s | board uh Casey is feeling quite a lot |
| 17792s | better about his position in this game |
| 17802s | [Music] |
| 17803s | reality |
| 17809s | oh wow okay |
| 17812s | going for the Reverb now |
| 17814s | um can sometimes be a little bit more |
| 17816s | difficult to use |
| 17817s | uh in the Mage matchup uh you don't want |
| 17821s | to hold on to it too long and he wants |
| 17822s | to get the shadow |
| 17824s | uh spell school out of the way |
| 17827s | and was also counting cards the Abyssal |
| 17830s | curse will go away at the beginning of |
| 17832s | the next turn so it's fine if he keeps |
| 17834s | his hand at 10 cards once the infinites |
| 17837s | of Max 2 comes back in the hand because |
| 17838s | he'll still get his draw once the |
| 17840s | Abyssal curse goes away |
| 17842s | yeah I certainly don't blame him you |
| 17844s | know doing some finger counting there it |
| 17845s | is a little bit counter-intuitive like |
| 17847s | playing a finale infinitize actually |
| 17849s | adds a card to your hand and then when |
| 17851s | you have to compensate for the fake card |
| 17852s | that's going away at the start of the |
| 17854s | turn as well like nothing wrong with |
| 17856s | double checking that making sure you're |
| 17857s | getting it right yep |
| 17859s | and Casey knows the creation is here |
| 17861s | didn't get Divine Shield didn't get |
| 17863s | Reborn |
| 17865s | um so he knows that it's not long for |
| 17867s | this world |
| 17869s | but needed to play it anyway |
| 17873s | uh only on four as well right the |
| 17874s | creation based on the cost of the wisdom |
| 17876s | currently uh yeah but isn't it just fire |
| 17880s | oh no because it starts on one anyway |
| 17882s | right so it'll be five straight up |
| 17886s | oh yeah yeah I forget they work it does |
| 17888s | start off you can't just impose them |
| 17890s | before yeah Shadow Frost |
| 17894s | Arcane and |
| 17899s | okay just gonna dump get this out of the |
| 17902s | hand |
| 17903s | objection easy peasy |
| 17908s | I used to clean the scene instead okay |
| 17910s | sure please clean the scene |
| 17914s | gets the holy spell played well it is |
| 17916s | useful to do so it makes sense yeah |
| 17919s | I didn't think that was clean the scene |
| 17921s | I thought it was that five Mana holy |
| 17923s | spell that summons a One cost |
| 17925s | five five or the opposite |
| 17929s | oh the is it the Paladin is it Paladin |
| 17931s | code yes |
| 17934s | the golden art when it's tucked away in |
| 17936s | there they actually look similar |
| 17938s | oddly enough |
| 17941s | but he hits him with another one I had |
| 17943s | the exact same reaction as you but was |
| 17945s | it you that when the the gadget started |
| 17947s | appearing in Golden from the golden |
| 17948s | mimrod I was oh I have no idea no idea |
| 17951s | yeah |
| 17954s | because they actually look quite a bit |
| 17956s | different yeah golden |
| 17958s | it's more uh |
| 17960s | everything's more blurred together it |
| 17962s | feels |
| 17969s | oh Taste of Chaos |
| 17975s | you sound incredibly excited about that |
| 17977s | card TJ it's one of those more cards |
| 17979s | yeah |
| 17983s | pretty much all finale cards I'm like oh |
| 17985s | I guess |
| 17987s | oh spin all my mana and then my cards |
| 17989s | are yellow oh |
| 17991s | I love people cards |
| 17993s | oh it's yellow |
| 17999s | you gotta do it right yeah |
| 18002s | yeah I played |
| 18005s | oh more yellow cards are you kidding um |
| 18009s | I wouldn't have minded meta there |
| 18014s | was for damage but I guess it does not |
| 18016s | affect it by spell damage needs |
| 18017s | something cheap to dump maybe so I could |
| 18019s | start drawing cards |
| 18024s | I like how we just haven't even thought |
| 18025s | about what Casey's gonna do like |
| 18028s | well the last two turns he's had the |
| 18031s | ability to play four four fives which |
| 18033s | was clearly the best player over |
| 18034s | anything else yeah I really need talking |
| 18037s | about |
| 18040s | ooh |
| 18050s | I'm up a handspace might be an issue |
| 18052s | until he starts getting these solid |
| 18053s | Alibis out of the way because that |
| 18054s | Whirlpool is |
| 18056s | not doing too much |
| 18058s | Elemental inspiration comes down |
| 18061s | and has no other good way to deal with |
| 18062s | it |
| 18064s | which it looks like it might |
| 18070s | at least six on the upside of having |
| 18072s | found the weapon before being forced to |
| 18074s | play Whirlpool so |
| 18079s | [Music] |
| 18085s | oh he's already mousing over it yep |
| 18089s | unbeknownst to gamer rvg reborn was the |
| 18091s | uh by far the best one in this situation |
| 18095s | [Music] |
| 18114s | oh frozen over is interesting |
| 18118s | sure yeah |
| 18122s | as everyone knows it's the number one |
| 18124s | rule of card games that whenever you can |
| 18126s | burn any of your opponents cards you |
| 18128s | absolutely do that and it's the best |
| 18129s | play by far |
| 18130s | you have to |
| 18137s | said pick strangle thornheart |
| 18140s | to resurrect all the beasts that he's |
| 18142s | played |
| 18143s | yeah I think just took it as a tradable |
| 18145s | but then didn't trade it at the end of |
| 18147s | the turn I don't know whether that was a |
| 18148s | conscious decision or whether that was |
| 18149s | just a run out of time kind of do yeah |
| 18152s | he's playing around hidden meaning |
| 18155s | yep |
| 18157s | just getting in the habit mhm |
| 18162s | speaker okay so we just saw Whirlpool |
| 18165s | killer full Board of the four or five |
| 18166s | Elementals right like the four or five |
| 18168s | Elementals with the different keywords |
| 18171s | are they considered the same minion like |
| 18173s | why if one got Shadow stepped back to |
| 18175s | hand would it get killed by the |
| 18177s | whirlpool I've never seen that |
| 18179s | interaction I have no idea |
| 18181s | yeah |
| 18183s | programs fascinating |
| 18194s | time runs out on me that's so weird |
| 18196s | looking when you play an un finale felon |
| 18199s | flames on so it just looks like nothing |
| 18201s | happened at all no it did get rushed |
| 18203s | we're good |
| 18215s | tough choice does go Alibi in the end I |
| 18217s | do think that was an actual |
| 18220s | consideration right whether you want |
| 18221s | another wave of massive pressure since |
| 18223s | your uh your Elemental inspiration is |
| 18226s | massively Juiced at this point |
| 18229s | chose just to go with the extra copy of |
| 18231s | Alibi instead is he gonna Reverb |
| 18235s | is there much benefit to I think |
| 18238s | honestly the best thing you can do right |
| 18239s | now is make your opponent have to kill a |
| 18241s | three eight instead of a three one |
| 18245s | yeah but it's not like it's not like you |
| 18247s | can do two things |
| 18248s | okay fine |
| 18250s | so right away yes |
| 18254s | fine |
| 18264s | come on it's always never an organized |
| 18266s | before |
| 18267s | oh I have Morgan on Plenty TJ |
| 18271s | are you in Oregon I don't know where it |
| 18272s | was but I had a weird experience where |
| 18274s | like I think in my middle or industry |
| 18276s | and I gave Lorinda like a mage list very |
| 18279s | similar to what Casey and gamer RPG are |
| 18280s | playing right now and suddenly like the |
| 18283s | whole stream were like oh why is the |
| 18284s | Titan in the list the Titan sucks huh |
| 18287s | what I got very confused it did feel |
| 18290s | like everyone caught the Titan from this |
| 18291s | deck for quite a significant amount of |
| 18293s | time and then we get back to the Masters |
| 18295s | Tour and it's just back in |
| 18300s | it can be a little bit clunky |
| 18303s | oh yeah for sure but there's some really |
| 18305s | cool things you can do with it |
| 18307s | um |
| 18310s | yeah worth knowing of course the way the |
| 18312s | Reverb interaction works like you could |
| 18314s | if you want to deal 10 damage to someone |
| 18316s | you could just Reverb the Titan first |
| 18319s | and then click five damage on each of |
| 18321s | them or you can use one ability on the |
| 18324s | first Titan Reverb it and then use 10 |
| 18326s | damage on the new Titan that's just been |
| 18328s | summoned which is obviously better |
| 18329s | because then you get a whole other first |
| 18331s | ability on the first Titan before you do |
| 18333s | so so uh Casey taking care of the |
| 18336s | mechanics quite nicely in the end |
| 18338s | oh oh hello yeah and oh oh |
| 18343s | and this still has it's |
| 18345s | uh |
| 18346s | it's damaged because it was the doubled |
| 18349s | one correct |
| 18351s | so so we can now just go 10 and 20. yep |
| 18355s | but he could have got he could have |
| 18358s | gotten Secrets |
| 18361s | could have gotten Secrets but this is |
| 18363s | lethal anyway so it doesn't really |
| 18364s | matter |
| 18365s | yeah Fair Point solid solid argument but |
| 18369s | could have ended the game with three |
| 18370s | secrets so that is true and that is |
| 18374s | better |
| 18374s | that is |
| 18376s | that is better it is much better uh but |
| 18379s | yeah game RPG now I'm respecting the uh |
| 18382s | the norgannon |
| 18383s | uh that was going on from Casey |
| 18386s | um because I had to opt for power his |
| 18388s | turn would have been pretty bad if all |
| 18390s | he had done was just trying to clear |
| 18391s | those he could have gone like volcano |
| 18393s | empty ping |
| 18395s | on one of the norgonons would have |
| 18397s | killed cleared the board but then what's |
| 18399s | he doing with the rest of his Mana that |
| 18400s | turn |
| 18401s | he had like triple solid alibi |
| 18405s | um and a bunch of other nonsense a bunch |
| 18408s | of other stuff that wasn't really doing |
| 18409s | anything except for the |
| 18411s | Elemental inspiration so yeah I think I |
| 18413s | kind of failed to appreciate how deep in |
| 18415s | that game we were at that point because |
| 18417s | my initial instinct to uh reverbing an |
| 18421s | org is like oh you just made it so much |
| 18422s | easier to clear right like they can just |
| 18424s | play whatever like juice creation and it |
| 18426s | clears it anyway like we're at such an |
| 18428s | advanced point in the game where gamer |
| 18431s | RPG had already used a couple of |
| 18433s | generated aoes to deal with the |
| 18435s | Elementals right had already used both |
| 18436s | Creations to uh clear up boards as well |
| 18440s | so it was in a position where actually |
| 18441s | that was going to be an annoying board |
| 18443s | to clear regardless of Health total like |
| 18446s | Ping one and shoot a spell at the other |
| 18448s | one is still a majority of your turn at |
| 18450s | that point based on what had already |
| 18451s | been played in the game so |
| 18453s | um I think that play was a lot better |
| 18455s | than I initially gave it credit for but |
| 18457s | gamer chose to take a somewhat risky |
| 18460s | line of saying okay I need to actually |
| 18462s | just Jam stuff on the board right now |
| 18464s | and then second Reverb ended up being |
| 18465s | lethal in the end for Casey but he kind |
| 18467s | of pushed the boat out to to get one of |
| 18469s | those cheeky lethal setups in |
| 18471s | yeah |
| 18473s | not bad not bad and yeah you gotta look |
| 18476s | at game RPG's hand there if all he had |
| 18478s | done is what you said ping and shoot |
| 18480s | another Minion |
| 18481s | his the rest of his term would have been |
| 18483s | what Forge a molten Rune and launch it |
| 18485s | face |
| 18486s | trade his stranglethorne heart into |
| 18489s | something else that he couldn't play you |
| 18491s | know this would have ended up floating a |
| 18493s | lot of Mana or dumping a lot of burn |
| 18495s | spells that he would have needed for |
| 18496s | Sith as soon as it was drawn |
| 18498s | and also there's like that game of |
| 18499s | chicken that goes on at that point in |
| 18501s | the game too right |
| 18502s | um there's a lot of generated stuff in |
| 18504s | the hand there could be discounted burn |
| 18506s | damage from both sides who starts the |
| 18509s | solid Alibi War when you get deep enough |
| 18511s | into the deck where stiff plus spells uh |
| 18514s | can kill you from a lot now 40 damage is |
| 18517s | really hard but it is what it is |
| 18519s | yeah you you have to |
| 18522s | um you have to hand track pretty |
| 18524s | carefully when you're playing against |
| 18526s | Mage specifically and keep track of |
| 18528s | particularly discounted generated cards |
| 18531s | um because discounted cards from |
| 18533s | infinitize for example those can change |
| 18535s | the breakpoints for sift damage because |
| 18538s | you you can generate extra burn damage |
| 18540s | it doesn't really change how much is |
| 18541s | possible to play alongside a Sith right |
| 18544s | like you can play a safer molten Rune |
| 18546s | and then a one Mana spell alongside that |
| 18548s | you can replace that one Mana spell with |
| 18551s | a different one Mana spell it's still |
| 18552s | very similar amount of damage it's only |
| 18554s | really if you find something extra from |
| 18555s | infinitize where the breakpoints really |
| 18557s | go through the roof and that's where |
| 18558s | that game of chicken that you were |
| 18559s | talking about really comes into play of |
| 18561s | using that information as best as you |
| 18563s | can |
| 18564s | um to get your your solid Alibi timings |
| 18567s | just right because if you if you first |
| 18568s | Alibi and everyone resolves down then |
| 18570s | then you're in trouble |
| 18573s | yep unless you factor in that instead of |
| 18575s | burn damage from that infinite Tesla |
| 18577s | maxitude there was another solid Alibi |
| 18579s | that was picked up and then |
| 18581s | who knows right |
| 18583s | so |
| 18585s | um it looks like we are waiting for |
| 18590s | there was an admin issue that we're |
| 18591s | waiting to have resolved from that first |
| 18594s | game so we'll be jumping into game two |
| 18597s | uh in a few moments |
| 18599s | but |
| 18602s | I don't know what do you want to talk |
| 18603s | about subtle somebody |
| 18606s | uh I want to talk about every Mage card |
| 18608s | that can come from terriality TJ and the |
| 18611s | relative merits and drawbacks of each of |
| 18613s | them is that even something that you |
| 18615s | could Google |
| 18618s | consumably yeah I mean you could work it |
| 18620s | out just from the the online collection |
| 18622s | right presumably but yeah but like made |
| 18626s | spells from the past so like ambiguous I |
| 18630s | guess yeah yeah I get what you mean it's |
| 18632s | like well the past also includes |
| 18635s | yesterday |
| 18637s | so like |
| 18639s | past in in this tense Ontario it's not a |
| 18642s | keyword I specifically remember playing |
| 18645s | a solid Alibi yesterday therefore that |
| 18648s | is a card from the past and I wish to |
| 18650s | generate it from materiality if I do not |
| 18653s | receive one immediately you will be |
| 18655s | hearing from my lawyers |
| 18659s | uh |
| 18660s | evocation that's one of them |
| 18662s | [Music] |
| 18666s | their reality |
| 18668s | you can't it's not a it's a random |
| 18670s | effect I guess so you can't get itself |
| 18672s | from itself I think I'm just kind of |
| 18674s | doing the same thing you are it's like |
| 18675s | staring at Casey's deck list and trying |
| 18677s | to work out what if anything has gone |
| 18679s | wrong here because as far as I can see |
| 18681s | everything seemed above board but I'm |
| 18683s | obviously not keeping 100 track of what |
| 18685s | was going on um but remainder of the |
| 18687s | series anyway let's keep this going and |
| 18689s | there is the aggro the Arcane Hunter |
| 18691s | um which I I believe you and Lorinda got |
| 18693s | on board with the name Arcane Hunter |
| 18694s | during the previous it just makes more |
| 18696s | sense it does make more sense doesn't it |
| 18698s | it's like let's call one of the three |
| 18700s | Hunter Decks that Play Secrets secret |
| 18702s | Hunter no that's not helping anyone |
| 18705s | that's not how you name things |
| 18707s | um but I am really looking forward to |
| 18709s | the road coming out to play in this |
| 18710s | series all together because it almost at |
| 18713s | this point doesn't feel like a high |
| 18715s | level competitive Hearthstone event if |
| 18717s | people aren't making 99 ghosts on turn |
| 18718s | three you know like that just seems like |
| 18720s | something that has to happen at some |
| 18722s | point over the course of a tournament |
| 18724s | yeah uh |
| 18726s | I mean macro kind of does the same thing |
| 18729s | yeah sure question mark |
| 18732s | like Rogue stick broke decks just kind |
| 18734s | of do rogue things where you know they |
| 18737s | start to turn with a 2-1 and then you're |
| 18739s | either dead or there's like three nine |
| 18741s | nines on board |
| 18743s | um but we're going to the next game here |
| 18745s | uh |
| 18746s | Casey is gonna play the Rogue and gamer |
| 18749s | RPG is going to be on the mage |
| 18752s | mage |
| 18753s | and look at this hand what did I say |
| 18755s | about nine nines on turn three |
| 18758s | I mean |
| 18761s | sure all we need is a minion and a step |
| 18764s | and we're cooking there's no substance |
| 18767s | here |
| 18768s | I mean the substance is the thing that |
| 18770s | comes out of the sinstone graveyard TJ I |
| 18773s | know but this is like if you you know |
| 18775s | went to a really nice steak restaurant |
| 18777s | and you sat down and they just gave you |
| 18780s | like three Stakes |
| 18783s | incredible sign me up I know like that |
| 18786s | exactly you looked at that hand you're |
| 18788s | like oh yes and then if you think about |
| 18791s | it like down the road you know in this |
| 18794s | instance we're gonna use oh there's a |
| 18796s | side of mashed potatoes right there see |
| 18798s | yep and now we get a shadow step and we |
| 18801s | got some veggies in there so yeah and |
| 18803s | then the broccoli's cooking as well and |
| 18805s | then the broccoli is cooking yep |
| 18808s | and then after it's all done and you've |
| 18810s | eaten this glorious meal |
| 18812s | the speaker stomper that comes out to |
| 18814s | protect it all |
| 18816s | that's the dessert |
| 18817s | that's the peppercorn sauce slab it all |
| 18819s | over the top |
| 18823s | this guy stays hungry |
| 18825s | [Laughter] |
| 18832s | oh there's a minion |
| 18835s | next card Shadow step oh I'm lucky okay |
| 18840s | what do you mean play sensibly |
| 18843s | just assume your next card Shadow step |
| 18845s | [Music] |
| 18861s | all right back in reality away from |
| 18863s | stake based metaphor well it's too late |
| 18866s | I'm down the rabbit hole oh okay fine |
| 18871s | what are you diving down a rabbit hole |
| 18874s | to find rabbits to make steaks out of TJ |
| 18877s | you monster |
| 18883s | I have no rebuttal |
| 18888s | defense rest you're on Earth |
| 18890s | the defense rests just like the 15 |
| 18893s | minutes I rested this delicious steak |
| 18895s | for |
| 18899s | oh man |
| 18904s | you know it's getting close to dinner |
| 18905s | time when my analogies start to be food |
| 18907s | based instead of boat base |
| 18911s | oh yeah here we go |
| 18913s | oh come on this looks very much like |
| 18915s | Turned four to me oh cool keeps off the |
| 18917s | tippity top |
| 18919s | all right I mean that is basically the |
| 18921s | quality of draw the gamer RPG kind of |
| 18923s | needed to uh to stay in this game to be |
| 18925s | perfectly honest but oh double |
| 18933s | pick yourself up and deposit yourself |
| 18936s | directly into the nearest bin |
| 18945s | card card card card card |
| 18949s | there we go beautiful |
| 18952s | oh God I love me some card Rogue mm-hmm |
| 18964s | it's a lot of stuff |
| 18970s | um |
| 18970s | this has already been Frost fire and can |
| 18974s | fit in Arcane so this is four it's like |
| 18976s | almost |
| 18981s | a full clear yeah it's actually pretty |
| 18983s | good right |
| 18988s | turns out inquisitive creation is also a |
| 18991s | heck of a Hearthstone card |
| 18997s | okay good draw not for this turn |
| 18999s | definitely just five five Tempo this |
| 19001s | turn definitely go face |
| 19002s | but needed some sort of resource |
| 19004s | generation I think potion belt was the |
| 19005s | absolute best uh draw in the deck right |
| 19007s | because it still has the ghoulish |
| 19009s | Alchemist uh Aura discount in play yeah |
| 19012s | the door Shadows pretty close pretty |
| 19014s | close second |
| 19016s | [Music] |
| 19019s | this Elemental inspiration is already |
| 19021s | pretty Juiced sort of game RBG you can |
| 19023s | get through the next turn relatively |
| 19025s | unscathed |
| 19028s | could have a good follow-up because |
| 19031s | probably not expecting too many go uh |
| 19033s | too big of ghosts to come out from these |
| 19035s | uh next term with only two cards in hand |
| 19037s | one of them being or |
| 19039s | yeah for sure |
| 19042s | still needs to find something to do with |
| 19045s | his Mana off this toe that's pretty good |
| 19046s | okay yeah Prismatic fills out quite |
| 19048s | nicely can just drop the flame Geezer in |
| 19050s | there if nothing better is found |
| 19054s | lunar lunar eclipse |
| 19058s | interesting and it's playable it's also |
| 19061s | an extra four or five next turn |
| 19070s | and it looks good to me it's actually a |
| 19072s | full player with the funkies yeah oh |
| 19075s | this is the juice |
| 19078s | you idiot you've Fallen directly into my |
| 19081s | Trap by infusing my door of Shadows |
| 19083s | which will now draw me two potion belts |
| 19085s | instead of one |
| 19093s | [Laughter] |
| 19096s | it has to be potion belt right he just |
| 19098s | has to keep digging until it's potion |
| 19100s | built oh no |
| 19104s | okay okay |
| 19115s | double hazy very nice yeah |
| 19123s | I mean these are Big ghosts |
| 19132s | very big ghost |
| 19136s | s |
| 19143s | he's still just Elemental inspiration |
| 19145s | though what gets me is like he he burned |
| 19148s | through so much Mana doing nothing just |
| 19150s | to get to the potion belt it felt like |
| 19152s | that was a bad thing but the fact all of |
| 19154s | the doors just chained into more doors I |
| 19157s | changed into Mordor what um does ended |
| 19160s | up being good for him because it just |
| 19162s | created that insane chain of cards right |
| 19164s | it ended up with 11 11's like the Mana |
| 19167s | didn't matter because as soon as he got |
| 19168s | to potion belt the potion that he |
| 19170s | created cost zero anyway from the |
| 19172s | ghoulish Alchemist so actually worked |
| 19174s | out in a pretty nice way for Casey in |
| 19175s | the end yeah perfect Mana utilization as |
| 19178s | well |
| 19181s | super crisp |
| 19186s | ah |
| 19187s | it's four right it's four Elementals you |
| 19191s | got to do it you gained seven armor |
| 19194s | yeah oh it's only three |
| 19203s | what so just Frost Arcane and nature |
| 19206s | then |
| 19208s | fire yeah |
| 19210s | wait what |
| 19214s | is lunar eclipse a lunar eclipse isn't |
| 19216s | uh uh nature right oh it's not nature no |
| 19220s | you're right it's arcane |
| 19225s | there you go it's either Arcane it's |
| 19228s | okay yeah it's okay |
| 19230s | whoops |
| 19233s | this is what I get for trust in TJ |
| 19234s | Sanders |
| 19237s | big mistake |
| 19246s | oh put your sides juicing |
| 19250s | oh my God |
| 19256s | Casey's actually pretty close to dying |
| 19260s | yeah so much so that had to respect one |
| 19262s | of the four fives with the 11 11 right |
| 19264s | it's just to take some of the damage off |
| 19266s | the board |
| 19267s | you know |
| 19271s | volume up looking for solid Alibi there |
| 19273s | it is |
| 19275s | the dream would be solid Alibi and |
| 19278s | Reverb here right because then you could |
| 19280s | just ship the damage face Alibi this |
| 19283s | turn and then you'd have norg Reverb |
| 19285s | next time for the test yeah doesn't have |
| 19287s | that necessarily guaranteed to turn |
| 19289s | setup but does Hit The Alibi which is |
| 19291s | the most important piece of the equation |
| 19293s | oh |
| 19297s | all three of those have their arguments |
| 19305s | I think if you're solid alibiing |
| 19309s | your minions are probably getting traded |
| 19310s | anyway so anti-magic Show Goes Down |
| 19313s | Fair yeah you can't fit it in this turn |
| 19315s | anyway with The Alibi yeah |
| 19318s | so Whirlpool mix uh |
| 19321s | a whole lot of sense |
| 19328s | [Music] |
| 19337s | oh okay |
| 19341s | uh can Casey possibly know how it |
| 19343s | absurdly clutched that speaker's |
| 19345s | photographer is right now nope |
| 19350s | it's just the best play though right |
| 19352s | like |
| 19353s | 100 even if |
| 19356s | like he couldn't have anything randomly |
| 19358s | generated he knows that there's two |
| 19360s | flameel knuckles in hand it's still just |
| 19362s | the best play |
| 19363s | yep do you double Hawaiian me here also |
| 19367s | Whammy |
| 19368s | with the cold near pipe nah single huami |
| 19371s | only |
| 19374s | oh |
| 19376s | oh no |
| 19379s | how much is it with uh asler 14 15 16 17 |
| 19382s | 18 19 20 21. |
| 19387s | still a lot right still feels quite a |
| 19390s | lot like losing you'd still have I guess |
| 19392s | Reverb out off the top you can find |
| 19394s | Reverb here as well or other sources of |
| 19397s | damage nope |
| 19398s | take the trainable |
| 19400s | and take the tradable yeah for sure |
| 19403s | but as it stands right now like Casey |
| 19405s | can just go |
| 19406s | like ask to oh it doesn't have board |
| 19408s | space though actually because you'd want |
| 19410s | to play asalo and nearby same turn right |
| 19412s | ideally would be your next turn yeah |
| 19417s | I think you gotta play the the asler |
| 19420s | though |
| 19423s | I don't know we say you hate that |
| 19425s | because we know he has the whirlpool |
| 19428s | true |
| 19439s | he thinks he's dead |
| 19445s | so he's gonna go the other way around |
| 19447s | clear space first and then play the near |
| 19449s | fight make sure he's preserving a board |
| 19451s | space in case in case of like a third |
| 19453s | generated uh Alibi right make sure he |
| 19455s | has the board space to be able to play |
| 19456s | the Aston Villa next time |
| 19458s | yeah |
| 19461s | the board gets cleared he's gonna be one |
| 19463s | off |
| 19464s | [Music] |
| 19467s | little |
| 19470s | sure is easy peasy |
| 19473s | so it wouldn't have mattered whatever |
| 19474s | Casey did |
| 19479s | as long as we don't screw up our |
| 19481s | mechanics here it is inherently possible |
| 19484s | but no that looks fine to me |
| 19486s | you have to press the wrong button twice |
| 19489s | even if you press the wrong button on |
| 19490s | the first one you can you can still get |
| 19493s | it right on the second one no you can't |
| 19494s | if you if you press deal five on the |
| 19496s | first one you're cooked right there's |
| 19498s | you can't get lethal from there |
| 19501s | ah true yeah you're right |
| 19505s | so you have a two two out of three |
| 19507s | chance |
| 19509s | man I pressed the wrong one that's okay |
| 19513s | I know like Titan mechanics genuinely |
| 19515s | like joking aside they are a thing that |
| 19517s | you have to learn though right like |
| 19518s | there is a lot going on with Titan |
| 19520s | mechanics like essentially a Titan |
| 19523s | ability is treated as an attack by the |
| 19524s | game and Titans have charge functionally |
| 19527s | so when a new Titan appears on the board |
| 19530s | it can attack immediately with attack |
| 19533s | meaning use one of its abilities but it |
| 19535s | does literally have charge now I know |
| 19537s | you're making that face at me but it |
| 19539s | does literally have charge so because |
| 19541s | it's quad Reverb and then charged with |
| 19543s | the fourth one yes using all three |
| 19545s | abilities yes you absolutely can you can |
| 19547s | also so this comes up in macro right |
| 19550s | because you can give the Titan wind Fury |
| 19553s | using any as the most common version but |
| 19556s | you know various other ways as well |
| 19558s | um and then if you Reverb it with one |
| 19560s | ability left a new Titan appears that |
| 19562s | has wind Fury one ability remaining you |
| 19565s | can use that one ability and then still |
| 19568s | attack face with the newly summoned |
| 19569s | Titan as well okay there's all sorts of |
| 19572s | cool things you can do with Titans like |
| 19574s | you really if you play at this level you |
| 19576s | probably are gonna have to dig into |
| 19577s | those interactions just so you don't |
| 19578s | miss something incredibly Niche when it |
| 19580s | comes up in a spot like that |
| 19585s | today I learned now I knew the whole |
| 19588s | functionally has charge thing did not |
| 19591s | know that they actually have charge and |
| 19594s | they do they do indeed |
| 19596s | yeah because it doesn't say it |
| 19598s | no |
| 19600s | doesn't say charge saw |
| 19604s | I mean the Rogue Titan doesn't even say |
| 19606s | tight |
| 19609s | yeah it does |
| 19616s | tight |
| 19617s | if you're from the internet in the early |
| 19619s | 2000s it says Titan sure but like uh I |
| 19623s | was trying to verbalize how it's spelled |
| 19624s | but I can't |
| 19626s | is it to one to phone is it a fall to |
| 19630s | the a I don't even remember whether it's |
| 19631s | a four or not |
| 19632s | yeah I think it is to one to four |
| 19636s | yeah you're right doesn't say time |
| 19639s | anyway |
| 19640s | one game to one both Mages have picked |
| 19642s | up a victory |
| 19644s | um Mage really a deck that is performing |
| 19648s | very well in the hands of |
| 19650s | very good players overall because if you |
| 19653s | actually look at Stats across ladder |
| 19656s | even across like high high ranked sample |
| 19658s | ladder like top 1000 ladder it doesn't |
| 19661s | seem like a very well performing uh very |
| 19663s | highly performing deck but then you look |
| 19665s | at how many of them you queue into if |
| 19667s | you're actually in like genuinely High |
| 19669s | Legend right if you're in low double |
| 19671s | digits or single digit Legend do you |
| 19673s | play against Mage a lot there is a lot |
| 19675s | of them up there and a lot of the best |
| 19676s | players in the world regard some build |
| 19678s | of Mage to be a top three deck in the |
| 19680s | game right now and I think you can see |
| 19683s | from the way these games pan out there's |
| 19686s | so many different choices to be made on |
| 19689s | any individual given turn by so many of |
| 19691s | these players and yes we've seen a lot |
| 19694s | of his solid Alibi like we have seen |
| 19697s | that I'm I'm not gonna deny that that |
| 19701s | has been a factor I have eyes and I know |
| 19703s | the people watching have eyes too but |
| 19705s | leading us to those points have been |
| 19708s | extremely intricate decisions from a lot |
| 19711s | of the players piloting it so I I think |
| 19713s | it's a really interesting deck and I do |
| 19714s | think that genuinely in terms of like |
| 19717s | new archetypes launched into the game by |
| 19719s | the new expansion that uh that rainbow |
| 19721s | Mage is like right up there in terms of |
| 19723s | you know healthy fun archetypes for the |
| 19725s | game overall |
| 19727s | Casey's certainly not enjoying solid |
| 19729s | Alibi no no absolutely not |
| 19733s | he won without even having to play one |
| 19734s | yeah |
| 19736s | because obviously the rational claim |
| 19738s | here is that if you make two seven |
| 19741s | sevens and eight eighths on turn four |
| 19742s | and then Two Eleven elevens two turns |
| 19745s | later you should just win the game |
| 19746s | automatically and your opponent |
| 19748s | shouldn't be allowed to stop that in any |
| 19749s | way right like that's that's the |
| 19751s | assertion that we're making here that's |
| 19752s | I mean that's a fair assumption right |
| 19754s | like nothing if I go through all that |
| 19757s | work to make two seven sevens |
| 19759s | [Music] |
| 19760s | you better have the gosh darn respect to |
| 19763s | let me kill you with them you best |
| 19764s | believe I'm gonna get something out of |
| 19766s | it like a wife |
| 19768s | I know what that's a problem it's from |
| 19770s | something it'll come to me eventually |
| 19771s | someone it will I promise it's just this |
| 19775s | is a quote that you said |
| 19778s | years ago and you're like wow it was |
| 19781s | that moment in my life was a lot like a |
| 19783s | TV show now that you mention it that was |
| 19786s | just my proposal to my wife yeah |
| 19793s | fun fact my wife actually proposed to me |
| 19796s | [Music] |
| 19797s | that is a fun fact look at us bucking |
| 19800s | gender roles |
| 19804s | thank you thank you thank you |
| 19809s | thank you you're welcome I did not I was |
| 19811s | the one who proposed |
| 19814s | at the top of the uh Tower thingy in Las |
| 19817s | Vegas |
| 19819s | the tower thingy in Las Vegas I'm not |
| 19822s | going with the stratus Stratosphere |
| 19824s | Stratosphere oh okay yeah confirmed by |
| 19827s | Lorinda the stratosphere apparently |
| 19829s | yeah yeah it's all vaguely know of it |
| 19831s | but I couldn't even picture it if I had |
| 19832s | to |
| 19833s | it was supposed you fancy talking about |
| 19835s | some Hearthstone TJ |
| 19836s | yeah but one sec let me finish this |
| 19838s | story okay sure |
| 19840s | The Proposal was supposed to be a |
| 19842s | surprise |
| 19843s | okay |
| 19845s | um they have a metal detector before you |
| 19846s | can go up to the top of the stratosphere |
| 19850s | went through the metal detector oh the |
| 19852s | ring Set It Off |
| 19856s | and show them what it was |
| 19862s | rise was completely ruined |
| 19864s | uh did you uh did you get down on one |
| 19867s | knee as you presented it to the security |
| 19869s | guard on the way in |
| 19871s | no I was just like thinking in my head |
| 19873s | I'm an idiot why didn't why didn't I |
| 19876s | know one even if I'd known that there |
| 19879s | was a metal detector I don't think I |
| 19881s | would have even thought that the ring |
| 19882s | would Set It Off now |
| 19885s | uh no no no no I'm on your side no one |
| 19887s | plays around that you're not you're not |
| 19888s | stupid teacher that's fine specifically |
| 19890s | reasonable mistake and then I have such |
| 19892s | a fear of authority I could have just |
| 19893s | gone oh yeah it's my belt and just |
| 19895s | showed them my belt and they would have |
| 19896s | been like okay okay that's fine |
| 19899s | but I was like they're gonna know that |
| 19901s | I'm hiding something else and I don't |
| 19902s | want them to think that I'm trying to |
| 19903s | sneak something there so I took it out |
| 19906s | and showed him |
| 19908s | uh my life has been a comedy of errors |
| 19914s | all right we can talk about Hearthstone |
| 19916s | now |
| 19918s | sweet my favorite |
| 19922s | we've made it we've made it to the Rogue |
| 19924s | mirror I was hoping we'd uh we'd see a |
| 19926s | bit of Rogue on Rogue action |
| 19930s | it's been a while for sure since I have |
| 19933s | dipped my toes in the murky Waters of |
| 19935s | Miracle Rogue mirrors |
| 19939s | Shadow demise opening hand on coin with |
| 19941s | a shadow step ghoulish Alchemist as well |
| 19943s | like that is a hand that can go |
| 19946s | absolutely wild if a uh if a location is |
| 19950s | found if some potion generation is found |
| 19955s | Casey on the other hand |
| 19957s | not doing a great deal right now |
| 19961s | time |
| 19963s | well I was going to say time to start |
| 19964s | poking but I guess not |
| 19973s | oof now already is your hand air in our |
| 19976s | Airy enough that you're just going to |
| 19979s | double cycle of the ghostly strike I |
| 19982s | guess not right because yeah you have |
| 19983s | gear shift not particularly used to |
| 19985s | playing Miracle Rogue with gear shift in |
| 19987s | it |
| 19988s | uh did try did you see the like kind of |
| 19990s | hybrid list like the the mech Miracle |
| 19993s | version of the day that kind of just |
| 19994s | played mimeron and the the two Mana |
| 19997s | spell for the sparkbots uh alongside |
| 19998s | like locations and Shadow steps and all |
| 20000s | the other stuff yep yeah I played that |
| 20002s | for a little while but nothing uh not |
| 20005s | like pure Miracle Rogue just with uh |
| 20008s | the draw spells thrown in so I'm not |
| 20010s | quite used to being able to use it like |
| 20011s | that yeah it's a little clunky |
| 20023s | let's play your own foreign |
| 20033s | that's not a crazy thought is it |
| 20035s | well just be speakers stomper right back |
| 20037s | at them |
| 20040s | you can belt and it still costs zero |
| 20042s | though right like your auras go the the |
| 20044s | like the player whose turn is their |
| 20046s | auras go last I think |
| 20051s | well I think it's the wording of the |
| 20053s | card right |
| 20055s | possibly yeah no that would make a |
| 20057s | difference yeah true it's it's not your |
| 20059s | next potion costs XLS it's your next |
| 20061s | potion across zero yeah that's bad |
| 20065s | but I still like this just because next |
| 20067s | time you can Factor the potion belt into |
| 20070s | the ghosts exactly you don't want a half |
| 20073s | you don't half dump your cheap cards on |
| 20075s | this turn right you want to just play |
| 20077s | the one expensive card on this turn and |
| 20078s | then dump all of your cheat cards next |
| 20080s | time |
| 20088s | okay time to Giddy Up |
| 20091s | let's go yeah |
| 20097s | uh he better hit draw here or he's going |
| 20100s | to be floating a lot of Manas |
| 20107s | funnily enough |
| 20109s | how does draw look at that sound |
| 20115s | oh in a near fight |
| 20118s | okay I didn't quite find the hand to be |
| 20120s | able to go for the draw eight line |
| 20123s | needed like cheaper minions to dump and |
| 20125s | I'm pretty sure if that's possible with |
| 20127s | this version of the deck without using a |
| 20129s | shadow step before playing the second |
| 20130s | draw before |
| 20136s | oh well I guess we'll just have to make |
| 20137s | do with this turn instead |
| 20142s | the triple neophyte |
| 20145s | triple Neo fight yeah |
| 20147s | extra two two and play 4-4 in play |
| 20153s | coin in a one two as well right why not |
| 20155s | yep get it in there |
| 20156s | get in there and fight buddy |
| 20166s | nice |
| 20168s | very nice |
| 20171s | close |
| 20173s | but yeah |
| 20175s | real close 19 20 21. |
| 20180s | it was just a singular bubbling |
| 20191s | I think I just or ghostly strike |
| 20194s | to be quite honest with you |
| 20198s | okay what if you were lying to me |
| 20203s | um |
| 20206s | it's a good point |
| 20211s | I could have been lying too |
| 20215s | 21 wasn't any lethal out |
| 20220s | oh it just puts him to one anyway |
| 20222s | function like finds near fight though |
| 20224s | which is probably better than the dagger |
| 20225s | up in the end right but even if he |
| 20226s | didn't find the near fight off the draw |
| 20227s | you can just dagger up and put your |
| 20228s | opponent to one which yeah oh yes |
| 20232s | I forgot what Miracle Rogue mirrors feel |
| 20236s | like |
| 20238s | that's what they feel like yep they feel |
| 20241s | just like that |
| 20243s | one player gets to have all the fun yep |
| 20248s | it's the kind of hand that makes things |
| 20250s | happen whenever you have that shadow of |
| 20252s | demise and you're on coin you know you |
| 20254s | can do some really degenerate things |
| 20256s | extremely early right like even if it |
| 20259s | does just end up being used as coin that |
| 20261s | is pretty often good enough in a lot of |
| 20263s | positions if you do find that early |
| 20265s | pop-off turn but uh gamer RPG's hand |
| 20268s | just kept kept juicing more and more and |
| 20270s | more and then hitting draw four off the |
| 20271s | potion belt as well was just kind of the |
| 20273s | the final insult to uh to Casey in the |
| 20276s | end just not really a game that he ever |
| 20278s | got to play |
| 20279s | yeah pretty rough and now on one game |
| 20283s | away from uh potentially |
| 20287s | going home |
| 20289s | it's been four years since three years |
| 20292s | since we've switched to online only |
| 20294s | casting and I still haven't found a |
| 20296s | replacement phrase |
| 20298s | for going home |
| 20299s | [Laughter] |
| 20303s | he's going home |
| 20304s | staying home |
| 20307s | the |
| 20309s | going |
| 20311s | to not play in the tournament anymore |
| 20312s | that's it yeah I think we got that |
| 20315s | that's it's weird it was if it was that |
| 20316s | easy I don't know why you didn't think |
| 20317s | of that earlier honestly TJ because |
| 20319s | nothing sounds as smooth as going home |
| 20322s | no no it's very true |
| 20327s | two losses now for the Rogue as well |
| 20329s | from Casey we we pointed out as like the |
| 20332s | highlighted deck at the start of the |
| 20333s | series I I hyped up Casey is you know |
| 20335s | one of the best Miracle Rogue players in |
| 20337s | the world one of the inner bases of the |
| 20339s | deck one of the refiners of the deck but |
| 20342s | so far it's just not making things |
| 20343s | happen but I don't think that's through |
| 20345s | any fault of Casey's right it's been one |
| 20348s | very good draw they just got shut down |
| 20349s | by side alibis on the other side and |
| 20352s | then one just absolute non-game of |
| 20354s | hearthstone right I don't think that was |
| 20355s | an awful lot that could have been done |
| 20357s | to uh to change the timeline in that |
| 20359s | Rogue mirror yeah |
| 20362s | but we're in a situation where winner |
| 20364s | gets to move on to tomorrow and the |
| 20367s | loser is going home that's right |
| 20372s | the loser goes directly to jail they |
| 20376s | they do not pass go they do not collect |
| 20378s | two hundred dollars |
| 20380s | uh actually they do uh no that's correct |
| 20383s | actually yes they do yeah |
| 20385s | a little a little bit more than that as |
| 20387s | well and it's the loser free parking |
| 20394s | and the loser goes away with |
| 20397s | significantly less money than they would |
| 20399s | have if they had gone on to the next |
| 20401s | round and hadn't gone home |
| 20404s | that's it that's the one we found it |
| 20410s | all right |
| 20416s | It's gotta be uh |
| 20418s | maybe slightly infuriating to play |
| 20420s | against this rogue deck as a shaman |
| 20423s | with double speaker stomper double cold |
| 20425s | neopite yep but if you're not putting |
| 20429s | any pressure on the shaman |
| 20431s | none of it matters |
| 20433s | and this is I know probably people are |
| 20435s | already sick of this at this point but |
| 20437s | again this is one of the relative merits |
| 20440s | of playing this more Tempo Focus Shaman |
| 20442s | list than the version that a lot of |
| 20445s | people tried to argue was Stronger like |
| 20447s | the much more all-in totem version with |
| 20449s | the the one Mana summon four totems and |
| 20451s | thing from below and so on is |
| 20454s | if your opponent is going to play cult |
| 20456s | near fights and speaker Stompers against |
| 20458s | you if you're this version of Shaman |
| 20460s | they might do that when you already have |
| 20462s | a board right and so you can just trade |
| 20464s | some of their stuff or you can continue |
| 20466s | to be aggressive with the board that you |
| 20467s | already have maybe you've opened a |
| 20469s | schooling in your hand already so you |
| 20470s | just have three fish that you can play |
| 20472s | to clear the board potentially you can |
| 20474s | just fight much much better for Tempo |
| 20476s | whereas the other more all-in combo |
| 20478s | versions of the deck like if you just |
| 20480s | get speaker stompered with one of those |
| 20481s | decks you're you're in trouble your deck |
| 20483s | basically does nothing it has it has no |
| 20485s | outs against those kind of situations |
| 20486s | but you can see already that it's just |
| 20489s | kind of playing three twos on curve like |
| 20491s | one man of blood fan Raptors and hit you |
| 20495s | unlucky |
| 20498s | yeah I was gonna say what's the punish |
| 20500s | for going base well this exact scenario |
| 20502s | is the punishment increase in that |
| 20503s | instance because you make the pre-trade |
| 20505s | that's not a future side that would have |
| 20508s | to be a potion belt which is a much |
| 20509s | easier board to deal with |
| 20512s | when the turn flops back over so |
| 20515s | now gamer RBG is uh back to square one |
| 20518s | now with 100 percent less novice zappers |
| 20521s | in the deck |
| 20524s | yeah and I think uh Lorinda alluded to |
| 20526s | this earlier that this is another drum |
| 20529s | that I love to bang about this deck |
| 20530s | which is you really want to have three |
| 20532s | man on turn three because you can do a |
| 20534s | lot of powerful things on turn three |
| 20535s | with three Mana uh gamer RPG just chose |
| 20538s | to go full aggro with the double novice |
| 20540s | zapper start chose to push damage early |
| 20542s | on as well which again as a game plan |
| 20544s | and as I was talking about this on turn |
| 20546s | one right like as a game plan against |
| 20548s | the double speaker stomper double Colt |
| 20549s | near fight deck chip damage early into |
| 20552s | just shoot your Spells at face unwarned |
| 20555s | at some point right that's not a bad |
| 20556s | plan to have overall I don't fault that |
| 20558s | necessarily uh it's just the fact that |
| 20560s | the because the putricide punish was |
| 20563s | there and so devastating gamer RPG is |
| 20565s | now so far behind in this game right now |
| 20582s | super aggressively fighting for tempo as |
| 20585s | well is Casey you see like no no real |
| 20588s | thoughts of holding bone Spike for a big |
| 20590s | pop-off combo turns or anything like |
| 20592s | that just straight off Max Tempo make |
| 20595s | sure I'm dominating board because if I'm |
| 20596s | dominating board then uh then my |
| 20599s | disruption cards are infinitely more |
| 20600s | powerful than if I'm not |
| 20603s | yeah and threw away speaker stomper and |
| 20605s | krabatoa which are to be fair can be two |
| 20609s | pretty good cards in the matchup yeah |
| 20611s | um in order to just try and find the |
| 20613s | even more powerful cards in the matchup |
| 20615s | uh like really wanted to look for like a |
| 20617s | graveyard in the sense and something to |
| 20618s | capitalize on the cheap stuff that he |
| 20620s | already has in hand |
| 20622s | and that's why I held on to still the |
| 20625s | free potion for next turn because he's |
| 20627s | got the draw potion so if you use your |
| 20629s | Mana drawn to graveyard then you can go |
| 20631s | for pop-off turn |
| 20633s | which is good into the golgonath |
| 20636s | if you make big lads |
| 20641s | of an even larger lad there you go you |
| 20645s | can't say Lads and not use large as the |
| 20648s | uh as the descriptor you can't say big |
| 20650s | Lads that doesn't work at all it's large |
| 20653s | lads |
| 20654s | oh |
| 20656s | that's just your manager too |
| 20660s | so it's it's it's big boys large Lads |
| 20662s | and uh giant gentlemen that's that's |
| 20664s | what it is |
| 20668s | and ubiquitous units |
| 20674s | and unbelievable believably big units |
| 20678s | nailed it |
| 20681s | and those units are going home |
| 20683s | [Laughter] |
| 20699s | look crab I told you in the deck stay |
| 20706s | you shuffled astalor crab |
| 20712s | it's like a revolving door |
| 20718s | uh I think this is the worst Shaman hand |
| 20720s | I've ever seen |
| 20734s | like this hand is so bad you want to |
| 20736s | play Golden Earth for draw three and |
| 20738s | then try and find like lightning storm |
| 20740s | or something |
| 20742s | is that the out as opposed to just going |
| 20744s | for the straight-off AOE |
| 20747s | I don't know yeah if you go for the AOE |
| 20749s | you never win the game oh deal 20 you |
| 20751s | just take the deal 20 okay |
| 20753s | and then just try and protect it with a |
| 20755s | lightning bolt |
| 20757s | um |
| 20757s | uh does gamer even play storm in fact is |
| 20760s | a card that uh some people are cutting |
| 20764s | yeah one like |
| 20776s | now back to square one |
| 20778s | Miracles can happen |
| 20784s | but this was like flash of lightning |
| 20787s | into |
| 20790s | ancestral knowledge into like double |
| 20793s | reflexes and the next turn you drew like |
| 20796s | Barrel spirits |
| 20799s | yeah |
| 20800s | yeah |
| 20802s | I mean yeah if you just drew ancestral |
| 20803s | knowledge off the top but ancestral |
| 20804s | knowledge just drew double reflexes |
| 20809s | no you'd read after draw yeah like yeah |
| 20811s | in any order you use ancestral knowledge |
| 20814s | and flash of lightning and then end up |
| 20816s | with two lightning reflexes in your |
| 20817s | hands like there's a couple of different |
| 20818s | orders that could happen in and just by |
| 20821s | having the two the two reflexes in your |
| 20822s | hand you might be able to find lethal |
| 20824s | from that point with uh with the one |
| 20826s | weapon swing still remaining as well |
| 20838s | oh |
| 20842s | I don't like it just I don't like it |
| 20845s | launching lightning bolts at minions um |
| 20857s | even though they're almost played in one |
| 20859s | was already in the hand he gear shifts |
| 20861s | and acelor and krabatoa come back |
| 20866s | oh yes |
| 20870s | yes just just quadruple whammy Shadow |
| 20872s | set the neophyte play the speaker |
| 20874s | stomper press the button |
| 20876s | spells cost four more |
| 20881s | yeah because with regular cost spells |
| 20884s | gamer rvg's turn was incredible this |
| 20886s | turn right |
| 20896s | this is an absolute Nerf shopping kind |
| 20898s | of game it sure is |
| 20905s | all right tide series |
| 20908s | we've had a couple Go the Distance so |
| 20911s | far today |
| 20913s | this being one of them it's gonna come |
| 20915s | down to Shaman versus Shaman is that |
| 20917s | what it is and it's part of the idea |
| 20919s | behind this lineup right is uh shaman |
| 20922s | it's you're playing Shaman because most |
| 20925s | of these players do just believe in the |
| 20927s | power of Shaman overall but I think the |
| 20929s | players who have brought this version of |
| 20930s | Miracle Rogue this is part of the |
| 20932s | thinking right it's like this allows me |
| 20933s | to not have to ban Shaman because I I |
| 20936s | gain one extra positive matchup with |
| 20939s | quad disruption Miracle Rogue against |
| 20941s | Shaman you know it can be more |
| 20944s | competitive than it just looked because |
| 20946s | that was a miserable hand from gamer rvg |
| 20950s | but certainly this is somewhat close to |
| 20952s | the theory of the way this deck is |
| 20954s | designed for the tournament |
| 20965s | I'm getting the distinct impression that |
| 20966s | TJ may have abandoned me as well so I'm |
| 20968s | gonna keep talking |
| 20970s | um oh is he is he he's here can you hear |
| 20973s | me I'm gonna assume not yeah so I it is |
| 20976s | going to come down to Sean versus Sharma |
| 20977s | which is a scary mirror for sure |
| 20981s | um it's |
| 20983s | again pretty Tempo based overall I would |
| 20986s | say with uh both players fighting for |
| 20988s | the board early Whoever has the board |
| 20990s | early can tend to threaten more lethal |
| 20993s | situations more quickly cause the other |
| 20995s | person to be play scared so we will we |
| 20998s | will see what it comes down to here |
| 20999s | because I don't think we've seen too |
| 21000s | many of these just yet |
| 21003s | Casey instant full Mulligan gamer RPG |
| 21007s | taking a moment before deciding on the |
| 21011s | opening hand Casey does find the |
| 21012s | schooling the one-off lightning storm |
| 21015s | probably |
| 21017s | not the tool you want to be having in |
| 21019s | your opening hand |
| 21022s | sorry if I wasn't responding to you |
| 21024s | sorry if I wasn't responding to you so |
| 21026s | you're |
| 21027s | for some reason I couldn't hear you but |
| 21029s | it seems the stream could so oh well I I |
| 21032s | definitely blame you anyway oh yeah |
| 21034s | because as soon as somebody else came in |
| 21037s | to see if it was just me or if it was |
| 21038s | you it fixed so now I just look like it |
| 21041s | idiot it's all just a giant prank I just |
| 21045s | actually have a very convincing robot |
| 21046s | voice impression and I was doing that |
| 21048s | deliberately until you asked for a |
| 21051s | technician to come in and listen to me |
| 21052s | and then I stopped doing it immediately |
| 21054s | you Sly a little Goose you no |
| 21058s | all right you probably talked about this |
| 21060s | mirror match I'm sure you did I did too |
| 21063s | okay I'm sure it was lovely thanks |
| 21069s | for let me actually go far enough to say |
| 21071s | a great deal because I got distracted by |
| 21072s | The Mulligans but |
| 21074s | um this is one of the matchups actually |
| 21076s | where early chisel is not a something I |
| 21079s | don't mind like again I think chisel was |
| 21081s | a pretty overrated card in terms of |
| 21085s | multi-functionality right like it kind |
| 21087s | of does one thing which is set up boards |
| 21090s | for free to use with your combos |
| 21092s | sometimes it can be useful against like |
| 21095s | Hunter if they play costume singer on |
| 21097s | term one right and you can clear up that |
| 21098s | that's it can be kind of useful |
| 21099s | sometimes but actually in this matchup |
| 21102s | the the threat of just a bunch of totems |
| 21105s | on the board is kind of annoying for the |
| 21107s | other |
| 21108s | um Shaman to deal with because they only |
| 21109s | really have uh piranhas or turn the |
| 21113s | tides that actually interact with that |
| 21115s | well from hand otherwise sometimes |
| 21117s | they're having to decide whether to like |
| 21118s | storm aboard a four totems or just let |
| 21122s | the turn pass back to you starting the |
| 21125s | term with four totems in play which can |
| 21127s | be very very scary right so I do you |
| 21129s | think it's kind of an annoying card to |
| 21131s | have for your opponent to deal with in |
| 21132s | this matchup |
| 21137s | chisel is a much better card when you |
| 21139s | pair it with |
| 21141s | Atomic evidence |
| 21144s | TJ careful now and I think totemic |
| 21148s | evidence is the better list we got him |
| 21153s | you're coming very close to incurring my |
| 21155s | wrath |
| 21159s | pick him away bailiff |
| 21164s | Twitter that the majority of people are |
| 21166s | playing in this tournament and all the |
| 21168s | responses that goes like oh you're so |
| 21169s | far behind why aren't you playing the |
| 21171s | totemic evidence list because it sucks |
| 21173s | you dummies that's why Jesus |
| 21178s | foreign |
| 21191s | ERS back into it but if the Piranhas |
| 21194s | weren't there if you're not talking to |
| 21196s | temic evidence then how are you supposed |
| 21198s | to get |
| 21199s | so many minions for your bioluminescence |
| 21205s | um uh |
| 21206s | fish feral Spirits turn the tides |
| 21209s | discover stuff |
| 21212s | not much spell damage how much spell |
| 21214s | damage do you get for one Mana |
| 21217s | with fish |
| 21220s | zero spell damage |
| 21222s | how much if you've opened the fish |
| 21224s | already then one yes |
| 21227s | see I I threw your bone okay and Arden |
| 21231s | assumed that you had spent the one man |
| 21233s | what about totemic evidence |
| 21235s | uh six |
| 21238s | wait what will you play 2-0 Mana thing |
| 21241s | from below's at the same time because |
| 21242s | you've just made them cost zero by |
| 21244s | summoning four totems |
| 21252s | I think I've shocked TJ into Silence |
| 21254s | with that response |
| 21256s | meanwhile Casey just absolutely ripping |
| 21260s | his way through a uh bioluminescence |
| 21263s | turn of his own |
| 21266s | only fine zap off the Discover though |
| 21269s | does not get any extra sources of damage |
| 21270s | so now does have a little decision to |
| 21272s | make |
| 21273s | gonna trade the one one |
| 21280s | launch the lightning ball I feel like |
| 21281s | you |
| 21282s | feel like he's lightning bolt do you |
| 21283s | know apparently you don't |
| 21292s | yeah gamer rvg with a little bit of a |
| 21294s | reaction to that turn like surprise me a |
| 21296s | little bit as well Casey just went in |
| 21298s | very very quickly um there was you know |
| 21300s | there's some aspect of the Titan was on |
| 21301s | the board on the other side so you're |
| 21303s | going to need to commit some amount of |
| 21305s | resources to dealing with that anyway if |
| 21307s | you're going to commit resources then |
| 21309s | committing Resources with spell damage |
| 21310s | does kind of make sense |
| 21321s | thank you |
| 21336s | always little time |
| 21339s | gamer rvg |
| 21341s | absolutely not pleased with the way this |
| 21343s | has panned out though |
| 21346s | yeah I'm gonna have to drop the storm |
| 21353s | clear up both players having to use |
| 21355s | significant resources here to fight back |
| 21357s | and forth |
| 21363s | huge pickup with the ancestral knowledge |
| 21365s | in terms of reload Casey having |
| 21367s | committed so many resources on the |
| 21369s | previous term |
| 21371s | being able to drop the end zone pick up |
| 21373s | the ancestral knowledge as well to keep |
| 21374s | the hand size High very very very very |
| 21376s | very nice gamer RPG now back in the same |
| 21378s | position really |
| 21380s | that he was in the previous turn just |
| 21382s | facing down a board that kind of |
| 21384s | represents lethal if it's left up on the |
| 21386s | other side but again doesn't want to be |
| 21388s | in the position where he's just sinking |
| 21389s | burn spells into five fives on the other |
| 21391s | side |
| 21398s | you didn't even need me so don't worry |
| 21401s | I would just slowed you down |
| 21408s | I don't |
| 21410s | um I was gonna say I don't know if |
| 21411s | that's true I think I don't disagree |
| 21413s | would be the best way to phrase it |
| 21415s | I don't necessarily category |
| 21417s | okay he paused just really think about |
| 21419s | it he's like maybe I would be maybe I |
| 21422s | would yeah maybe actually all of these |
| 21424s | other clowns have just been holding me |
| 21425s | back this entire time yeah |
| 21428s | Maybe |
| 21429s | I will say the the moment you chose to |
| 21432s | disconnect was very ill-time because I |
| 21434s | got distracted by looking over to see if |
| 21436s | you were still connected or not and then |
| 21437s | missed the start of Casey's pop-off turn |
| 21439s | so I can't correctly evaluate whether it |
| 21441s | was a good decision or not but here we |
| 21443s | are |
| 21459s | um |
| 21467s | turn the tides |
| 21469s | yeah |
| 21471s | weird outcome honestly one of the |
| 21472s | situations where I think Casey would |
| 21474s | have wanted this to be bioluminescence |
| 21476s | number two I would imagine is like the |
| 21478s | premium Choice with one bio already |
| 21481s | being used |
| 21487s | because with the ends of discount I |
| 21488s | think he can have a still have a very |
| 21490s | real star but lethal just using the ends |
| 21492s | of discount on the following term |
| 21496s | okay well just do that instead that |
| 21498s | makes sense |
| 21501s | was it just it now no shot |
| 21509s | oh 17 yeah |
| 21510s | it's exact is it not |
| 21514s | 6 12 17 yeah it absolutely is what okay |
| 21517s | great recognition from Casey that was |
| 21519s | absolutely not on my radar and over the |
| 21522s | course of the the two turns absolutely |
| 21524s | gets there a little mini pop-off |
| 21526s | clearing the Titan gamer rvg reacting |
| 21529s | you know very uh very emotionally to the |
| 21532s | the turn that Casey had he had a |
| 21534s | miserable turn on the backswing trying |
| 21536s | to uh clear up the problem and I think |
| 21538s | particularly something you do have to |
| 21540s | look out for in in Shaman mirrors where |
| 21542s | if you can land a Radiance specifically |
| 21545s | as a three four uh and have a swing turn |
| 21548s | that three four is really annoying to |
| 21551s | deal with on the other side right like |
| 21553s | yep turn the tides doesn't deal with it |
| 21555s | unless both sides go into it lightning |
| 21556s | storm doesn't deal with it a single |
| 21558s | crash doesn't deal with it so all of a |
| 21560s | sudden they're having to just two for |
| 21562s | one themselves just on that one card let |
| 21563s | alone the rest of your board |
| 21565s | um so I think again I didn't necessarily |
| 21567s | see the exact point in time so I got |
| 21569s | distracted by uh by TJ trolling the |
| 21571s | broadcast by uh disconnecting every five |
| 21573s | seconds |
| 21574s | um but certainly the position that Casey |
| 21576s | fought himself into the uh he could |
| 21578s | struggle to argue with the end result at |
| 21580s | the very least |
| 21581s | yeah |
| 21582s | to prefer I didn't disconnect it |
| 21583s | disconnected from Discord specifically |
| 21586s | so I could still watch the games I could |
| 21588s | be here literally the only thing I |
| 21590s | didn't have access to was hearing you |
| 21594s | honestly it sounds like your Hearthstone |
| 21596s | viewing experience just increased |
| 21598s | significantly yeah I was just sitting |
| 21600s | back and enjoying the match |
| 21602s | um but yeah Big Win for Casey Casey |
| 21604s | we'll move on to play in the top eight |
| 21606s | tomorrow you know what's coming game RPG |
| 21611s | going home |
| 21613s | go in home in the rise of the Americas |
| 21616s | continues uh |
| 21618s | I was gonna say when did you call it out |
| 21620s | like off the round one you were like |
| 21622s | rise of the Americas and now what are |
| 21625s | fight are qualify as a gabby pocket |
| 21627s | train |
| 21629s | uh Casey you and one other that I'm |
| 21633s | quite recall off the top of my head |
| 21634s | right now yeah it's looking like Europe |
| 21637s | business as usual honestly from my |
| 21639s | perspective |
| 21640s | yeah |
| 21642s | it's meaty meaty yeah of course thank |
| 21645s | you yeah dread I still got a chance so |
| 21647s | uh we'll see we'll see if Jedi can do it |
| 21649s | to complete the rise of the Americas |
| 21651s | because he was the one who I was |
| 21652s | referring to when I said that oh but |
| 21654s | that does it for uh me and saddle uh for |
| 21657s | now I was gonna say for the day for the |
| 21659s | day as a pair but for now individually |
| 21662s | um we have three deciders left on the |
| 21663s | day so three more matches where |
| 21665s | someone's gonna go home someone's gonna |
| 21666s | move on uh before we jump into those |
| 21668s | we're gonna have to go to a quick break |
| 21670s | don't go anywhere more Hearthstone to |
| 21672s | come right after this |
| 21680s | thank you |
| 21713s | foreign |
| 21719s | [Music] |
| 21726s | [Music] |
| 21751s | foreign |
| 21766s | [Music] |
| 21772s | [Music] |
| 21788s | [Music] |
| 21799s | [Music] |
| 21810s | [Music] |
| 21817s | thank you |
| 21828s | [Music] |
| 21833s | [Music] |
| 21844s | [Music] |
| 21853s | thank you |
| 21867s | [Music] |
| 21876s | thank you |
| 21879s | [Music] |
| 21907s | [Music] |
| 21930s | [Music] |
| 21941s | foreign |
| 21948s | foreign |
| 21949s | [Music] |
| 21989s | [Music] |
| 22010s | thank you |
| 22012s | foreign |
| 22013s | welcome back we are getting ready to go |
| 22016s | into our next match of the day and it's |
| 22018s | well I was gonna say I'm being joined |
| 22019s | I'm actually joining subtle here because |
| 22021s | he's not left |
| 22022s | um how's it going so far so we've had |
| 22024s | some pretty close matchups across the |
| 22026s | day we've got a couple of three O's of |
| 22028s | course thrown in there as well some |
| 22029s | one-sided looking matchups but overall |
| 22031s | it does feel like this is as close as it |
| 22034s | gets really in terms of just match after |
| 22036s | match |
| 22037s | yeah I think so I think we've seen uh |
| 22039s | some really close series I think we've |
| 22041s | seen some series decided by some pretty |
| 22045s | overt player mistakes I think we've seen |
| 22047s | series decided just by like a lineup |
| 22050s | diff right like someone's just got a bad |
| 22052s | deck in their lineup and it hasn't |
| 22053s | really got there |
| 22054s | um and we've seen some games and |
| 22056s | therefore some series just you know |
| 22057s | decided by luck of the draw like the |
| 22059s | Rogue mirror in the previous series that |
| 22061s | we just watched right like there's no |
| 22062s | point trying to pull the wool over |
| 22063s | anyone's eyes with that one but I think |
| 22065s | if you have a range of all of those |
| 22066s | things happening in the same Hearthstone |
| 22068s | tournament you're probably doing okay |
| 22069s | right it means that there's a lot of |
| 22070s | things for us to talk about a lot of |
| 22072s | things for people to focus on and |
| 22074s | um I think a lot of agency and decisions |
| 22076s | being made for a lot of these players |
| 22077s | who are just about making it over the |
| 22079s | line as Casey did in that previous |
| 22081s | series that we just looked at yeah and |
| 22083s | we take a look at the uh the first |
| 22084s | finished Group which is Group B here as |
| 22087s | you and Casey go through and again we |
| 22089s | said we open the day right we open |
| 22091s | seeing all these brackets with how they |
| 22093s | started we're saying like it's so |
| 22095s | stacked as it is going to be for for |
| 22097s | this it was that for the last Master's |
| 22099s | tour and no doubt the next one as well |
| 22101s | but yeah some great players making out |
| 22103s | of course we're now going to check out |
| 22105s | the next matchup that we are covering |
| 22107s | next which is going to be Hemlock versus |
| 22109s | wreckvam see who's going to be joining |
| 22111s | Gabby making it out of group D so um the |
| 22115s | both these excuse me both these players |
| 22117s | are bringing it's a bit weird to say |
| 22119s | this while feeling someone I mean like |
| 22121s | non-standard lineups if standard lineups |
| 22124s | are even exist right now but they are |
| 22127s | bringing a couple of out there decks |
| 22129s | most notably Hemlock with an enraged |
| 22131s | warrior in the lineup yeah there's an |
| 22134s | enrage Warrior from hemlock there is an |
| 22137s | outcast Demon Hunter from wreckfam as |
| 22139s | well which you can you can see from the |
| 22141s | background will be queued up game number |
| 22143s | one |
| 22144s | um outside of that we've got some MEC |
| 22145s | Rogues thrown in there from uh from |
| 22147s | wreckvam as well and we also have a uh |
| 22153s | coming out yeah of course you say Naga |
| 22156s | major I say hunter it's like oh yeah The |
| 22160s | Duality of hearthstone casters you can |
| 22161s | tell what we're excited about |
| 22164s | um the Naga Sith Mage variant as well |
| 22166s | from Wreck van and we have seen I don't |
| 22169s | know if we've seen both varieties on |
| 22171s | stream but in the tournament there is a |
| 22172s | pure Naga Mage and there are Naga Sith |
| 22174s | Mages as well alongside the rainbow |
| 22176s | Mages that have been making up the |
| 22177s | majority of the the Mage play overall |
| 22180s | and so far the Naga Sith players have |
| 22185s | been bearing fruit right like I don't |
| 22187s | know how much of that you want to give |
| 22188s | credit to the deck because the two |
| 22191s | players I'm about to reference are Gabby |
| 22193s | and pocket train it might have very |
| 22195s | little to do with which decks they're |
| 22197s | playing and quite a lot to do with the |
| 22199s | fact that they are Gabby and pocket |
| 22201s | train but honestly part of being those |
| 22204s | two people is bringing good lineups to |
| 22206s | tournaments right and also hitting the |
| 22209s | skill cap I think one of the points when |
| 22211s | players Ascend to like that best player |
| 22213s | in the world level where Gabby and |
| 22214s | pocket train have arguably both pushed |
| 22216s | to a very points in the last three or |
| 22218s | four years of hearthstone part of being |
| 22221s | there is that you get to play Decks that |
| 22223s | other people don't because they can't so |
| 22226s | they just have like a 50 win rate deck |
| 22228s | and you have a 65 win rate deck |
| 22231s | um and I think perhaps an argosithm age |
| 22233s | is one of the Decks that absolutely |
| 22235s | falls into that category and what do you |
| 22237s | think as we take a look at this in Rage |
| 22239s | Warrior from hemlock what do you think |
| 22241s | the thought pattern was what does this |
| 22243s | deck achieve in this in the sort of |
| 22245s | expected matter of this Master's tour |
| 22247s | what was going through hammock's mind so |
| 22250s | Theory number one Hemlock is just a data |
| 22254s | monster or a stats monster because if |
| 22256s | you look at online data |
| 22259s | um this beats everything genuinely I'm |
| 22263s | gonna start killing it now yes that's |
| 22265s | one it's one of those decks where like |
| 22267s | you know generally people who are trying |
| 22268s | to analyze the situation will look at |
| 22270s | the data that's being reported like more |
| 22271s | people should be playing this because |
| 22273s | it's it's showing High win rates against |
| 22274s | most of the Decks that people are |
| 22276s | currently playing |
| 22277s | um I don't think that's necessarily true |
| 22280s | like I I'm currently of the opinion that |
| 22283s | like online Data Tracking websites are |
| 22285s | less useful to competitive play than |
| 22288s | they ever have been because I think the |
| 22290s | gap between like a top 1000 Legend |
| 22293s | player which is the highest kind of |
| 22295s | sample size that's being tracked on so |
| 22296s | it's like that and |
| 22298s | Gabby and pocket train and wreckfam and |
| 22300s | Hemlock right like the players that |
| 22302s | we're seeing in this tournament I think |
| 22303s | that Gap is wider than it's ever been |
| 22305s | um but certainly if you were to factor |
| 22307s | that into your decision uh in Rage |
| 22310s | Warrior would be pretty high on the list |
| 22311s | of things that you might end up playing |
| 22312s | because it does report very very well |
| 22315s | based on that data yeah and Requiem |
| 22317s | definitely understood the assignment on |
| 22319s | the notes as just promoting his own |
| 22321s | twitch stream which is definitely uh the |
| 22324s | correct play and we take a look at |
| 22325s | Outcast Demon Hunter and I do completely |
| 22327s | agree just going on that with a warrior |
| 22329s | conversation a bit more is that it's |
| 22331s | it's one of those Decks that would be |
| 22333s | good for an Old Masters Tour where |
| 22335s | there's you know hundreds of players to |
| 22337s | get through right whereas maybe for |
| 22339s | something this narrow you know we'll |
| 22341s | have to see how it performs but Outcast |
| 22343s | Demon Hunter I have cast this deck once |
| 22346s | today and it lasted about five minutes |
| 22347s | if that as meaty just steamrolled the |
| 22350s | match up |
| 22351s | um what if these this Decker this |
| 22355s | Outcast Demon Hunter is it really just |
| 22357s | played because it just goes a little bit |
| 22360s | quicker than the Decks that are trying |
| 22361s | to play for board and do some kind of |
| 22363s | big otk combo later on |
| 22366s | more or less yeah it's kind of the spot |
| 22369s | it finds itself in where |
| 22371s | um it is able to win board very |
| 22374s | effectively against decks where winning |
| 22377s | board early between like turns one to |
| 22379s | four is largely what matters right |
| 22381s | um but it also has the capability of |
| 22384s | just dealing damage from off board in |
| 22386s | the right sort of situation as well |
| 22387s | right just by sinking glaive tar damage |
| 22390s | into the face and and getting over the |
| 22392s | line if it's able to be forced off board |
| 22394s | in the mid game too so I think it is |
| 22396s | very well equipped and this is honestly |
| 22398s | it's kind of a similar story to the |
| 22399s | enrage Warrior where this is a kind of |
| 22403s | an older meta deck that will naturally |
| 22406s | skirt under the radar for quite some |
| 22408s | time right because people are more |
| 22410s | excited about like oh let's put this |
| 22411s | Titan in this deck and build a new |
| 22413s | Titan's deck and so on and so forth |
| 22415s | right so we figure out that macro is |
| 22417s | good we figure out that rainbow Mage is |
| 22419s | good we figure out that nature Shaman is |
| 22421s | good |
| 22421s | then I think step two almost is okay now |
| 22424s | what old decks can we bring back into |
| 22426s | this right here that makes sense in |
| 22430s | terms of match-up spread and certainly |
| 22431s | if you are looking at a lot of the data |
| 22433s | uh in Rage Warrior reports very well and |
| 22435s | Outcast Demon Hunter reports very well I |
| 22437s | feel like Outcast Demon Hunter always |
| 22439s | pops its head round the door at some |
| 22441s | point in most meta games like hey has |
| 22444s | everyone forgotten about me because you |
| 22446s | can you can just play a million damage |
| 22448s | by turn three and then hit your opponent |
| 22449s | in the face with big weapons like I see |
| 22451s | all this fancy stuff that everyone is |
| 22453s | doing but can I interest anyone in |
| 22454s | playing your cards and going face it |
| 22456s | feels like while the sort of new age um |
| 22458s | you know like the uh slightly older |
| 22460s | Rogue styles with like you know drawing |
| 22462s | the whole deck whether it had garot in |
| 22463s | it or not it was like feels like that |
| 22465s | right where it's like Oh no just playing |
| 22467s | a lot of stuff for high value is just |
| 22471s | going to be good at least to some extent |
| 22473s | and then when you add good players on |
| 22475s | top of that of course it's definitely |
| 22476s | going to be something and we are going |
| 22478s | to be seeing the Demon Hunter kicking it |
| 22480s | off in game number one for requiem on |
| 22482s | the bottom here Hemlock going to be on |
| 22484s | the Mage though and again this is |
| 22486s | another matchup where yes Mage has |
| 22488s | access to removal but do they have |
| 22491s | enough removal early enough to stop sort |
| 22494s | of the tide coming in from Air from this |
| 22496s | Demon Hunter because we saw at least |
| 22498s | again when I cast the uh the meaty game |
| 22500s | of meaty playing this it was just |
| 22503s | something something |
| 22504s | hilarious dead right and it's like that |
| 22507s | your Mage has the ability to clear |
| 22509s | things like that with the right opening |
| 22511s | hands but if some of those tools come a |
| 22513s | little bit late it's just not going to |
| 22516s | be good enough |
| 22517s | yeah I think largely Mage does spot |
| 22521s | removal right like outside of |
| 22523s | inquisitive creation which is just a two |
| 22525s | of in the deck you don't have to draw |
| 22526s | them and even if you draw both Outcast |
| 22529s | Demon Hunter can generally create more |
| 22530s | waves of board than two inquisitive |
| 22532s | Creations are going to deal with |
| 22534s | especially if they draw a globetard to |
| 22536s | stay high on resources outside of that |
| 22539s | it's flame Geezer it's an Arcane bolt |
| 22542s | it's a Reverb which isn't a particularly |
| 22544s | good card in this matchup either right |
| 22545s | it's these kind of one for one removal |
| 22548s | cards which lose efficiency when they're |
| 22551s | facing down you know a hand a discounted |
| 22554s | Wayward sagehand that plays an outcasted |
| 22556s | security for example like what's your |
| 22559s | One Flame Geezer going to do against |
| 22560s | that really and also a pretty decent |
| 22563s | deck when lined up against potentially |
| 22566s | repeat solid Alibis right because you |
| 22568s | are doing multi-hits as op to sort of |
| 22571s | you know dropping a single big Minion or |
| 22573s | two to then sort of just a head put into |
| 22575s | that alibi 20 deal one and is a board of |
| 22578s | just a lot of different minions than |
| 22581s | those hitting against Alibi will not be |
| 22583s | as terribly impacted as it would if it |
| 22586s | was just like annotate right so that's |
| 22588s | another side benefit there a Hemlock |
| 22590s | does have access to both Alibis nice and |
| 22593s | early and the creation as well but again |
| 22596s | it's about getting there and being able |
| 22597s | to actually utilize that AOE in the best |
| 22600s | way because wrexham's hand is looking |
| 22603s | pretty good for the early game enough |
| 22605s | pressure and enough value yeah goes coin |
| 22608s | Sage to begin with and then holds on to |
| 22610s | the face Outsider which I do like uh I |
| 22614s | imagine the fierce Outsider is going to |
| 22615s | be like a long term held here until |
| 22617s | after the glave tar because the discount |
| 22619s | hit the glave tower as well so that can |
| 22621s | all happen very very quickly and you can |
| 22623s | start juicing that super quick uh with |
| 22625s | an outcasted Fierce Outsider into a |
| 22628s | further discount on some other card |
| 22630s | found from military studies for example |
| 22632s | yeah |
| 22633s | okay gotta go for metamorphs fam like I |
| 22636s | was actually looking at the uh the anime |
| 22638s | dead there just be like well there's |
| 22640s | something on board it's probably gonna |
| 22641s | die |
| 22642s | is one Mana proc the Shadow and then |
| 22645s | just you know bring something back |
| 22647s | against this deck okay maybe |
| 22652s | the hawkstrider draw has made this |
| 22655s | Choice a little trickier I think because |
| 22659s | it's now not a hand where you're going |
| 22661s | to be able to chain everything from the |
| 22663s | left hand side right like other if |
| 22665s | you've drawn another cheap card like a |
| 22668s | one cost card instead of that horse |
| 22670s | rider Rancher you could say okay turn |
| 22672s | three I play glave tar then turn four I |
| 22674s | play my entire house starting from the |
| 22677s | left hand side in sequence right and |
| 22679s | then this um Crimson sigil Runner would |
| 22681s | end up being outcasted on the far side |
| 22683s | as well |
| 22684s | um as it is uh recfam is going to be a |
| 22687s | little bit blocked by that hawkstrider |
| 22688s | Rancher if of course he wants to choose |
| 22691s | to go glavtar here because now looking |
| 22693s | at it the other way glass half full he |
| 22695s | now has the option to just make the |
| 22697s | hawkstrider Rancher board instead of |
| 22699s | going for the glave tower if he wants to |
| 22700s | go that way around yeah that's what I |
| 22702s | was looking at as well like with the |
| 22703s | sigil being held it's like less of |
| 22705s | potential card drawing more just another |
| 22708s | thing on board if you can afford it for |
| 22711s | breakfast and look again |
| 22714s | really tricky discovers because these |
| 22717s | are I would say like |
| 22718s | you use tick the box that says high |
| 22721s | value and do not tick the box that says |
| 22723s | immediately useful uh right now with |
| 22726s | these discovers unless the fireball's |
| 22728s | got enough removal in some circumstances |
| 22730s | I guess |
| 22731s | for a brief moment and I think some |
| 22734s | people are still doing it somewell was |
| 22736s | played in this deck hmm |
| 22739s | not that I'm advocating for picking it I |
| 22742s | think that's a terrible choice I think |
| 22744s | putting it in your deck is a terrible |
| 22745s | choice but it was a thing well enjoyer |
| 22747s | I'm not a sonwell enjoyer now |
| 22751s | it took me a while sometimes this is |
| 22753s | hard to get a handle on right because |
| 22755s | everyone's always like uh like the new |
| 22757s | log uh new log the New York location |
| 22761s | um you get to turn seven right and like |
| 22763s | everyone in Channel immediately you're |
| 22765s | like oh Auto yog and every stream is |
| 22767s | like oh you have to York here it's |
| 22768s | always yogg and you never quite know how |
| 22770s | much of that is ironic but it turns out |
| 22771s | that a lot of the time though that's |
| 22773s | actually true yeah people do that with |
| 22775s | sunwell as well right like oh it's |
| 22777s | always fun well you have to pick from it |
| 22779s | never is that's 100 ironic it's never |
| 22782s | Sun world the problem I've had with |
| 22784s | someone is that I just never really know |
| 22786s | when to play it it always feels like but |
| 22789s | I could play it now but then I don't get |
| 22790s | this or I could play it then and then uh |
| 22792s | it gets really weird I end up just never |
| 22794s | playing it when I pick it and then just |
| 22796s | sit and regret My Life Choices yeah I |
| 22798s | can see the fireball though used as |
| 22800s | decent removal for dealing with one of |
| 22803s | the the more important threats currently |
| 22805s | on the board but still even with this |
| 22807s | removal there's still a lot of pressure |
| 22809s | going down |
| 22810s | it's a lot of damage available here for |
| 22812s | requam |
| 22821s | so as we were talking sunwell recfan did |
| 22823s | choose to go the makerboard route which |
| 22826s | has significantly unused his glaive talk |
| 22830s | if that is there is such a thing |
| 22833s | oh yeah the old unducing |
| 22836s | yeah |
| 22838s | but now question time right like you if |
| 22840s | you play the glaive tower are you gonna |
| 22841s | rip the security knowing full well that |
| 22844s | that makes their inquisitive creation |
| 22846s | quite a lot better if they have it |
| 22849s | because on the flip side of that if they |
| 22851s | don't have it you are representing so |
| 22853s | much damage the following turn yeah and |
| 22857s | and with the with the glave tower how |
| 22860s | Rick from never wants minions to be |
| 22862s | cleared but how upset actually are you |
| 22864s | right like if you build it and then they |
| 22866s | just play that and you've already got |
| 22867s | the gloves guitar equipped like |
| 22869s | something has been achieved but yeah I'm |
| 22871s | gonna go for the drawer instead |
| 22875s | who's hiding now |
| 22878s | I think committing yeah just the face |
| 22881s | Outsider here is fine I think the |
| 22884s | reasoning behind the the draw play here |
| 22886s | is yeah obviously you can choose to load |
| 22888s | up and draw cards at the glaive tower |
| 22889s | but I think red van wants to |
| 22891s | specifically try and draw halveria right |
| 22894s | wanted as higher chance as possible for |
| 22896s | finding that car because it allows for |
| 22899s | every board from now on to be extremely |
| 22901s | threatening for lethal so now he can |
| 22903s | just make this one board this is already |
| 22905s | pretty close to threatening lethal if |
| 22906s | this gets creationed then he can just |
| 22908s | play the security on the following turn |
| 22910s | and then that next board is also |
| 22912s | representing lethal quite heavily like I |
| 22914s | think this is just a very powerful Fear |
| 22916s | Factor to have in hand with the health |
| 22917s | area the other option was to play secure |
| 22920s | and be like but what if they don't have |
| 22922s | it yet underrated mindset honestly my |
| 22927s | only mindset it's like but what if I |
| 22929s | just win because of this yeah there's a |
| 22932s | real bell curve in in Hearthstone right |
| 22934s | and I don't know if you remember this of |
| 22935s | my like times where like Falcone for |
| 22939s | example would ask me to like play some |
| 22940s | games with him and try and like improve |
| 22942s | his his technical side of casting for |
| 22944s | example and I point out time and time |
| 22946s | again falc's number one problem was he |
| 22949s | tries to play around everything all the |
| 22952s | time it's just like oh I can't do that |
| 22954s | what if they have this card it's like |
| 22955s | you're giving them credit for having 32 |
| 22958s | different cards in their hand at the |
| 22959s | same time like this that's not how hard |
| 22961s | Stone Works |
| 22962s | shot |
| 22965s | too much air George C with Leroy's oh |
| 22970s | yeah the classic |
| 22973s | okay I beam |
| 22974s | not really what Rick van was looking for |
| 22976s | in this matchup right now |
| 22979s | yeah it is more Outcast cards though |
| 22981s | which is yeah nothing to be sniffed at |
| 22983s | like the fella in drawer itself is |
| 22985s | pretty fantastic with this hand |
| 22986s | regardless of what it ends up giving as |
| 22989s | usual more stuff is good |
| 22991s | um |
| 22994s | so uh tough crowd your own fella in yeah |
| 22998s | on board |
| 23001s | it's really tricky now looks like I said |
| 23003s | earlier about the Alibis like yes Alibis |
| 23006s | will stop Hemlock getting lethaled but |
| 23008s | if the board isn't dealt with as well |
| 23010s | it's still chipping away and already |
| 23012s | Hemlock set in 18 and |
| 23015s | I find it difficult in this matter to |
| 23017s | cast Mage because they have just so many |
| 23019s | random cards in hand at times but none |
| 23022s | of this hand yells to me that hemlock's |
| 23025s | about to turn this around right like all |
| 23027s | of this is still building blocks as far |
| 23029s | as I'm concerned |
| 23030s | yeah and part of that is just having |
| 23033s | double Alibi Creation in the opening |
| 23035s | hand for so long right like that feels |
| 23038s | great because those are three of the |
| 23039s | cards that you would view as being |
| 23041s | powerful in the match-up but you'd much |
| 23043s | rather draw your cheap minion curve and |
| 23045s | your weapon and Cold Case and so on in |
| 23048s | the opening turns because then you |
| 23050s | manage to elongate the time before you |
| 23052s | need Inquisitor create that's the thing |
| 23054s | right Alibi yeah if you had the other |
| 23056s | stuff you wouldn't need to have Alibi in |
| 23058s | your hand in the first three turns of |
| 23060s | the game right exactly yeah volcano |
| 23062s | mancy definitely gonna help out though |
| 23064s | for hemlock that's gonna be an extra |
| 23066s | removal I guess |
| 23068s | yeah even this fell fire not looking too |
| 23071s | bad oh the maxitude has lizards and |
| 23075s | finitized yeah blizzard fantastic pickup |
| 23077s | any fire sales blizzards anything like |
| 23079s | that you can find as extra copies |
| 23081s | usually pretty effective |
| 23082s | yeah it's one of those tricky things for |
| 23084s | wreckfam right this matchup is that you |
| 23086s | can't just say okay that's all of their |
| 23088s | AOE used |
| 23090s | kind of infinite but yeah breakfast |
| 23092s | going in |
| 23094s | time to start dunking |
| 23097s | blizzard is huge though |
| 23103s | it's very tricky because already I'm |
| 23106s | thinking hang on a minute this doesn't |
| 23107s | have to be blizzard this could be |
| 23108s | metamorphosis with falfire |
| 23118s | yeah that's a pretty good alternative |
| 23120s | honestly and it just for me |
| 23123s | because so many of them are one ones |
| 23125s | it's like you could just keep blizzard |
| 23127s | Blizzard's a good card because it kills |
| 23129s | one once but also freezes things that |
| 23131s | aren't one ones right so I just always |
| 23134s | see options to see the value of this |
| 23136s | blizzard and think but do you have to |
| 23138s | play it when some of the other options |
| 23139s | are still very big value |
| 23142s | gets you back to infinitized manner as |
| 23144s | well to finale that again at the end of |
| 23146s | the term which would have been pretty |
| 23147s | effective |
| 23149s | I guess this still works yeah yeah sure |
| 23152s | this is a little Improvement on the same |
| 23154s | plan right because it uses as I was |
| 23156s | talking about at the start of the game |
| 23158s | in this matchup it uses a bad card |
| 23160s | Reverb right to do something very |
| 23162s | specific that's the biggest minion that |
| 23164s | red band's gonna play all game |
| 23167s | um so using the Reverb there instead of |
| 23168s | the metamorphosis I think it's a nice |
| 23170s | little adjustment a little optimization |
| 23171s | and then all you have to do is play the |
| 23173s | one two and then you're back into that |
| 23175s | infinitized finale that I was talking |
| 23177s | about before and you know me so I'm an |
| 23179s | ideas guy but I'm not necessarily a |
| 23180s | refined ideas going |
| 23182s | um |
| 23184s | I'm not definitely doing it better |
| 23189s | just plays it don't need the actual |
| 23191s | Outcast effect to go off for it to count |
| 23193s | as an outcast car played |
| 23195s | get those controls going |
| 23201s | I was up to four for some reason I |
| 23202s | thought that was at three not bad at all |
| 23209s | what kind of turn is this so as I say |
| 23211s | just the three on the right here |
| 23221s | yeah maximum value I guess because |
| 23223s | nothing else really screamed good turn |
| 23225s | to me nope agreed oh okay better |
| 23231s | it's a nice Improvement but now because |
| 23233s | Hemlock was able to hold on to the |
| 23235s | Blizzard this isn't as scary as it could |
| 23238s | have been |
| 23240s | artificial so huge as well |
| 23244s | now there's just like legitimate good |
| 23247s | turns you know like not even not even |
| 23250s | just oh that is surviving it's like it's |
| 23252s | actually just good turns here |
| 23254s | because this do you think this is worth |
| 23256s | the |
| 23257s | um infinite tires again because with |
| 23259s | blizzard and artificial |
| 23262s | it looks like it right yeah it's just |
| 23265s | clean because more options to go for |
| 23267s | more AOE right or more defensive tools |
| 23269s | at least |
| 23270s | I guess the issue is if you infinitize |
| 23272s | you can't ping the sage you'd have to |
| 23275s | throw like the Arcane ball at the stage |
| 23277s | instead which Arcane ball is a very |
| 23279s | valuable tool to have |
| 23281s | is it more valuable than another spell |
| 23283s | though |
| 23287s | true |
| 23293s | oh fabrication okay I guess this is the |
| 23296s | uh the tempo option right of like |
| 23298s | actually just have a minion on board and |
| 23300s | at the end I guess that Hemlock isn't |
| 23302s | really faring any bursts or doesn't |
| 23304s | necessarily need the artificer down |
| 23306s | right now |
| 23315s | life sentence over a third Alibi as well |
| 23318s | I would like personally I I'd be almost |
| 23320s | more tempted to take a poly jelly than |
| 23323s | the life sentence in that position just |
| 23326s | to try and get some cheeky counter |
| 23327s | lethals going back the other way |
| 23329s | I do think I agree with the not Alibi |
| 23332s | though I think Alibi was a third choice |
| 23334s | for me |
| 23339s | and now wreck them |
| 23342s | probably getting a little bit frustrated |
| 23344s | that there's been a more clears than he |
| 23346s | would have liked to have seen in this |
| 23348s | matchup |
| 23350s | and now even though he's got plenty of |
| 23352s | Health |
| 23353s | the fact that we can see at least that |
| 23355s | there's still a blizzard there's still |
| 23357s | obviously what's turned out to be a |
| 23360s | speller turn from infinite so |
| 23363s | still options for hemlock and that |
| 23365s | artificer is going to make things a lot |
| 23367s | more Awkward |
| 23369s | yeah I can't help but feel the the |
| 23372s | artificial turn is going to be |
| 23373s | absolutely backbreaking when it comes |
| 23375s | down here |
| 23378s | because henlock Hemlock reading and by |
| 23380s | Hemlock reading he's kind of just |
| 23382s | increasing the total amount of armor |
| 23384s | that he's going to be able to generate |
| 23385s | with the artifice all right by being |
| 23387s | able to squeeze more and more in yeah |
| 23388s | suddenly they're removed as well that's |
| 23390s | their what eight armor if he wants it |
| 23392s | this turn you know if he needs to do it |
| 23395s | right now |
| 23396s | oh and now Cold Case has entered the |
| 23399s | chat |
| 23411s | a little bit off being able to do like I |
| 23414s | don't know artificial Cold Case matter |
| 23417s | with a ping as well with two pings |
| 23419s | technically |
| 23424s | time to just use the blizzard |
| 23430s | I can't see another decent way to clear |
| 23433s | up the board and I think Hemlock should |
| 23436s | probably stop being greedy at 14 health |
| 23439s | if if the board can't be cleared of |
| 23441s | course |
| 23442s | yeah unless you want to play Alibi |
| 23444s | you're going to have to clear right |
| 23446s | because these are Rush Minions on the |
| 23448s | other side therefore they murder you if |
| 23451s | you hit them up because of how their |
| 23452s | area |
| 23455s | what's the follow-up with alibi |
| 23458s | so I'm I'm trying to work out okay so |
| 23460s | going for the artificial now okay sure |
| 23462s | so when you use like Alibi well what's |
| 23464s | the follow-up maybe Cold Case well if |
| 23466s | you're cold casing do you want to use |
| 23467s | the artificer but then you're not |
| 23468s | artificial with blizzard and you know |
| 23470s | you always start to work out well hang |
| 23471s | on a minute what is that Maximum Armor |
| 23473s | that's achievable |
| 23476s | I almost wondered whether that one one |
| 23478s | was gonna get life sentenced at the end |
| 23480s | of that all like be gone yeah because |
| 23482s | either way you spend the three and you |
| 23484s | get the three armor right but I think |
| 23486s | doing it on metamorphosis particularly |
| 23487s | because this is just uh just a hawk |
| 23489s | Strider right doesn't have Rush it's not |
| 23491s | particularly scary minion by that regard |
| 23496s | yeah and also just locks up a pretty |
| 23499s | much kill any minion next turn with the |
| 23502s | pink right from The Meta now next turn |
| 23504s | so not a bad setup whatsoever |
| 23509s | but all of a sudden wreckvam has built a |
| 23511s | brand new board and still has a hand |
| 23514s | entirely full of cards |
| 23516s | yeah I was I was just gonna say that oh |
| 23519s | you know the cards generated they're not |
| 23522s | mind-blowing are they but they don't |
| 23524s | need to be do they they just need to be |
| 23526s | minions they used to be cards that like |
| 23529s | sit on board and cause Hemlock headaches |
| 23534s | because now the Blizzard's gone we're |
| 23536s | back in the danger zone I would say yep |
| 23539s | 12 cards drawn from the opponent One |
| 23541s | Creation used already and one generated |
| 23543s | answer used already you know that there |
| 23545s | is I believe one portal generated card |
| 23547s | in hand there could be something else |
| 23549s | that causes you a problem and outside of |
| 23551s | that really in in the entire rest of |
| 23554s | their deck there is one inquisitive |
| 23556s | creation that you're worried about and |
| 23557s | then the solid Alibis which are annoying |
| 23559s | as well |
| 23561s | no |
| 23562s | the latest love everlasting to the body |
| 23565s | oh my God I mean I feel like I know TJ |
| 23569s | and I were talking about going to jail a |
| 23570s | lot in the previous series but I feel |
| 23572s | like if you get offered love everlasting |
| 23573s | in this deck and you don't take it that |
| 23575s | is that is a directly to jail situation |
| 23582s | oh sorry yeah you just Generate random |
| 23584s | nature spells and then one of them is is |
| 23586s | six roses |
| 23589s | throws his birthday soon oh is it yeah |
| 23593s | well I'll be tuning into that stream if |
| 23595s | it happens it certainly is it's two days |
| 23597s | two days this year perfect yeah it makes |
| 23600s | sense to uh |
| 23601s | classic character has a birthday on the |
| 23604s | cool birthday month |
| 23607s | made days before a certain other cool |
| 23609s | person's birthday |
| 23614s | Requiem does get to just fill this board |
| 23616s | up once again obviously frustrating to |
| 23619s | see the little otters come out to play |
| 23623s | but now with four cards in the deck |
| 23626s | Hemlock seen the light at the end of the |
| 23628s | tunnel I imagine right with this handle |
| 23630s | yes artif is a double Cold Case double |
| 23633s | Alibi because now suddenly Alibi is back |
| 23635s | to being like good again sort of right |
| 23638s | because well now there's 21 Health as |
| 23641s | opposed to 14 so that's definitely less |
| 23643s | of a percentage chunk you're going to |
| 23645s | take Through The Alibi yeah I mean at |
| 23647s | this point those two Alibis that you |
| 23648s | just haven't played the entire game and |
| 23650s | have been stuck as dead cards in your |
| 23651s | hand are just two things that you can |
| 23653s | play while you wait for your opponent to |
| 23654s | die to fatigue right because it's |
| 23657s | getting to the trace |
| 23661s | oh |
| 23664s | and if this game goes hemlock's way |
| 23668s | I think you'd be very happy as that |
| 23670s | being a start to the series because this |
| 23672s | feels like a matchup you would much |
| 23674s | rather avoid at least in my personal |
| 23676s | opinion as you know if I was the mage |
| 23678s | [Music] |
| 23680s | I don't know I'm not so sure it's not |
| 23682s | something I've played a whole bunch yeah |
| 23684s | honestly like |
| 23687s | I just feel like yes that you generate a |
| 23690s | lot of stuff but like that blizzard was |
| 23691s | very clutch right like that helped a lot |
| 23694s | yes the Alibis have been there but would |
| 23696s | the Alibis have actually done much and |
| 23698s | yeah |
| 23698s | breakfast is done for this game |
| 23703s | yeah no I I do wonder about it because I |
| 23705s | think if you do get the very minion |
| 23707s | based start right like if you if you |
| 23710s | have Rec band start and your opponent |
| 23712s | misses on inquisitive creation like they |
| 23715s | just don't have it by turn six which you |
| 23717s | know happens a reasonable percentage of |
| 23719s | the time then yeah you're just gonna |
| 23721s | you're gonna put them down to eight |
| 23722s | health or so by the time you get there |
| 23724s | but at the same time like if the Mage |
| 23726s | just draws |
| 23727s | uh keyboard and Place keyboard on two |
| 23730s | don't you just get out tempo'd anyway |
| 23732s | like don't they just get more stuff on |
| 23733s | board quicker than you at that point |
| 23735s | anyway I don't know I'd have to I'd have |
| 23737s | to see it play out more often yeah I I'm |
| 23739s | just thinking that and maybe I'm I've |
| 23741s | got a slightly biased based on like |
| 23743s | obviously my play but I'm thinking of |
| 23745s | like if you look at the turns three and |
| 23747s | four that rexham had just in that one |
| 23749s | game right that's all we're going off |
| 23750s | this one game we've seen uh if you look |
| 23752s | at those turns three and four like would |
| 23755s | the rush minions not just outpace like |
| 23758s | the the keyboard |
| 23771s | yeah yeah |
| 23775s | [Music] |
| 23777s | fell fire was huge as well sure yeah no |
| 23780s | no that's all very fair I think looking |
| 23782s | at that board right so in my example |
| 23785s | that's a turn where you'd have a weapon |
| 23786s | equipped and you'd be playing Cold Case |
| 23788s | right which doesn't answer any of the |
| 23790s | hawk Strider or Minions on the other |
| 23792s | side of the board and they just so yeah |
| 23794s | maybe maybe I am overstated just how |
| 23796s | quickly Mage can get on board if they do |
| 23798s | get weapon and certainly the addition of |
| 23800s | a nice little unleash fell to the hand |
| 23802s | was was very very clutch but at the same |
| 23805s | time I think Mage gets a bad rap for the |
| 23808s | random generation right it's like you |
| 23810s | can play basically any card in |
| 23812s | Hearthstone and your opponent's like oh |
| 23814s | there's the one |
| 23816s | and like |
| 23817s | no I do get to see three options on most |
| 23820s | of your brand new cards that are ending |
| 23822s | up in my hand you know there's a lot of |
| 23823s | good cards in Hearthstone these days and |
| 23825s | that's it and that's kind of what I |
| 23826s | meant where it was more like you would |
| 23828s | not want that match up as the Mage right |
| 23831s | or at least I wouldn't as opposed to |
| 23833s | it's not terrible matchup but you prefer |
| 23835s | so many others maybe and and speaking of |
| 23838s | the match I think it just goes very |
| 23840s | quickly before we move on though I do |
| 23841s | think very quickly you're wrong actually |
| 23843s | I've just very quickly just so I have |
| 23846s | the last word on this matter |
| 23848s | um I do I the reason I think this debate |
| 23851s | is happening is because Mage is one of |
| 23853s | those decks right like I talked about it |
| 23854s | earlier where if on stat tracking it |
| 23857s | kind of reports as a deck that's 49 |
| 23859s | against everything and in the hands of a |
| 23861s | top player it's the kind of deck that's |
| 23863s | 53 against everything right like it |
| 23866s | doesn't really have blowout good and bad |
| 23868s | matchups because it's just a Swiss army |
| 23870s | knife of a deck sure um and I think in |
| 23872s | the hands of good players they just feel |
| 23874s | ever so slightly favored in most |
| 23875s | match-ups with the deck and in the hand |
| 23877s | of mediocre players it's it's kind of |
| 23879s | just a 50 kind of deck in in most |
| 23882s | scenarios so you know I think debates |
| 23884s | like that are just a natural byproduct |
| 23886s | of of where the match-up spread is |
| 23888s | placed for mage in particular |
| 23890s | and just one more thing on that no no |
| 23892s | I'm joking yeah yeah we are going to go |
| 23894s | into game two though now and Hemlock is |
| 23896s | going to be jumping on the warrior I'm |
| 23898s | excited to see this because I imagine |
| 23900s | like yourself I have not run into tons |
| 23903s | of warrior in the past week you know |
| 23905s | like in the preparation for this |
| 23907s | tournament I've not seen it that much on |
| 23909s | ladder so um yeah I'm excited to see |
| 23911s | what Hemlock can get done with this |
| 23913s | yeah I didn't see any |
| 23918s | um for the first week or so the |
| 23920s | expansion but then as I dipped back into |
| 23922s | stuff this week specifically in |
| 23924s | preparation for this tournament I came |
| 23927s | up against it a handful of times like it |
| 23929s | was a deck that existed that I I wrote |
| 23931s | down that people were playing at like |
| 23933s | you're not sure |
| 23934s | yeah exactly |
| 23937s | um and like I said it it kind of does |
| 23938s | just fit that timeline of like oh okay |
| 23940s | well you know we've had our fun with the |
| 23942s | new cards now what happens if we just |
| 23944s | put speaker stomper in Old decks right |
| 23946s | what are we what are we cooking with |
| 23947s | then you know |
| 23949s | my request cooking with a very good |
| 23951s | opening hand to deal with a deck like |
| 23954s | this Warrior the Piranhas are already |
| 23955s | there weapons equipped and there's |
| 23958s | options after that as well |
| 23960s | um with the Titan set and ready to go |
| 23963s | and the Titans I feel like obviously the |
| 23965s | draw 3 overload is just always a staple |
| 23968s | good choice but the other two picks in |
| 23971s | this matchup I do feel are strong right |
| 23973s | there's options to kill a big thing and |
| 23976s | there's options to do the AOE of if |
| 23978s | there's a lot of small things and those |
| 23980s | two things are what this Warrior kind of |
| 23982s | does |
| 23983s | yeah I will say like day one people were |
| 23986s | kind of messing with some black rock and |
| 23988s | roll Warriors right for the first couple |
| 23990s | of days of the expansion I have never |
| 23992s | used a deal 20 more often than I have in |
| 23994s | those like first couple of days behind |
| 23997s | the deck since then uh deal 20 has not |
| 23999s | been quite as effective overall but you |
| 24002s | know certainly it is a tool that you can |
| 24003s | put together but I think largely |
| 24006s | your goal in this matchup as Shaman is |
| 24009s | to end the game before they're 17-17 |
| 24013s | grandia hits the board right like |
| 24015s | ideally you want to get there first |
| 24018s | it's looking good so far feral Spirit |
| 24020s | available for wreckfum could even uh |
| 24023s | drop another fish |
| 24024s | behind the taunts right just to push a |
| 24027s | little bit extra damage |
| 24031s | because again I mean I know I've spoken |
| 24033s | to you about this this deck as shame and |
| 24035s | deck overall but I even though like oh |
| 24037s | well you know the fish could be spell |
| 24039s | damage later so yeah it could just be |
| 24041s | face damage now though and that that's |
| 24043s | how I think about so many things yeah to |
| 24045s | this deck it's no really I I I feel you |
| 24048s | I think in this specific matchup though |
| 24050s | because of the threat of jam session on |
| 24052s | the other side |
| 24053s | um even if they don't end up getting |
| 24055s | used as spell damage like genuinely I |
| 24058s | can probably count the amount of times |
| 24059s | I've played three fish in |
| 24061s | bioluminescence on a lethal turn it on |
| 24063s | one hand and I have played hundreds of |
| 24065s | games of of combo Shaman right and one |
| 24069s | most of them |
| 24071s | um but |
| 24072s | still they're not just pure dump them on |
| 24076s | the board and be aggressive tools right |
| 24077s | particularly against Decks that can |
| 24079s | fight you on board quite effectively |
| 24081s | like uh Warrior is capable of doing |
| 24083s | sometimes you would rather have them as |
| 24085s | Rush minions to be able to share things |
| 24087s | from hand right because you know you can |
| 24089s | look at it as you know two piranhas or |
| 24092s | three let's say three piranhas right |
| 24094s | there's a very similar amount of damage |
| 24096s | to turn the tide without overloading you |
| 24099s | which on certain turns can be incredibly |
| 24102s | crucial right like if you want to clear |
| 24103s | something on turn five you'd much rather |
| 24105s | use piranhas to do that than turn the |
| 24107s | tides to do that because you want to |
| 24109s | play you want to slam Titan on six so |
| 24111s | you don't want to be overloaded right so |
| 24112s | having access to those as a removal tool |
| 24115s | is very very premium particularly when |
| 24118s | your opponent does have super clutch |
| 24120s | like small damage AOE cards they can |
| 24122s | throw out like jam session yes the old |
| 24124s | saying isn't it printer in the hand it's |
| 24125s | worth two on the board that's right yeah |
| 24136s | like right now these fish are |
| 24139s | extremely nice to be able to deal with |
| 24141s | old with old thorry valori over there |
| 24144s | yeah I was still looking at |
| 24146s | just how just turn the tides as well |
| 24148s | again it will overload into Titan which |
| 24151s | is the biggest problem |
| 24153s | I just don't want to do that you can't |
| 24154s | make me |
| 24157s | yeah I can't make you because you're not |
| 24159s | playing the game not so yeah accurate |
| 24163s | accurate statement yeah the prices are |
| 24165s | going to be coming in clutch |
| 24170s | and I think that's the the real strength |
| 24173s | and like why I'm guessing most people |
| 24176s | would agree that the shaman Titan is the |
| 24179s | overall best is that it is just an |
| 24181s | all-round exercise oh there's nothing to |
| 24183s | AOA I'll just draw three cards instead |
| 24186s | right it's like you have that option of |
| 24188s | just saying oh well if there's nothing |
| 24190s | active for it to do on board it has the |
| 24192s | best option to do which is draw |
| 24194s | I'm trying to work out if that's true I |
| 24197s | hadn't really thought about it thought |
| 24199s | about what whether the shaman Titan is |
| 24202s | the best what I guess it is yeah it is |
| 24205s | the most like I think the shaman and |
| 24207s | Hunter are the most just playable |
| 24210s | Titans if I'm they feel very active |
| 24213s | every single time it's not like |
| 24215s | universally agreed a generic good card |
| 24218s | yeah yeah it's not like there are |
| 24221s | certain ones where you know the Mage one |
| 24223s | right like you don't just play that on |
| 24226s | curve all the time right there can be |
| 24229s | timings for it so to speak whereas I |
| 24231s | feel like these this one and the hunter |
| 24233s | is like you do want to be playing those |
| 24236s | on curve because they're just always |
| 24237s | good |
| 24238s | and specifically in Shaman there's |
| 24240s | match-ups where like you will keep it |
| 24242s | and then plan your entire early game |
| 24244s | yeah behind yeah I want to play this |
| 24246s | Titan on six right which I think is |
| 24248s | because it's never a bad out you can AOE |
| 24250s | and heal or you can draw cards oh both |
| 24253s | of those things are great yeah |
| 24259s | yeah there's jam session now can I help |
| 24261s | clear up a lot of this |
| 24263s | yep jam session and the uh Champion here |
| 24267s | which is uh the other method of small |
| 24268s | AOE that I didn't refer to specifically |
| 24270s | previously |
| 24271s | and I think again smart recognition |
| 24274s | right was it it was you and I Casting |
| 24275s | again right which uh sorry you and me |
| 24277s | casting I very rarely make that mistake |
| 24279s | I think it was I and you I I a new |
| 24282s | casting yeah thank you |
| 24284s | um which uh was it just uh yeah exactly |
| 24290s | loads the big minions into the Titan |
| 24292s | turn specifically so it's like okay you |
| 24294s | didn't overload you kind of played a |
| 24296s | slightly strange looking term where you |
| 24298s | dumped all the cards that didn't say |
| 24299s | overload on them from your hand that |
| 24301s | smells a lot like Titan to me well if |
| 24303s | you want to play Titan here you're gonna |
| 24305s | have to pay 10 for the privilege |
| 24309s | yeah |
| 24311s | that is not something I imagine rexham |
| 24314s | wants to do |
| 24321s | [Music] |
| 24324s | oh there is of course the side benefit |
| 24327s | as well or the you know extra benefit of |
| 24330s | it isn't just the Titan right you do get |
| 24332s | a spell on top of this which is again |
| 24335s | just another reason why I think the |
| 24337s | shaman Titans just overall the best |
| 24340s | yeah it's just slightly irritating |
| 24342s | honestly that |
| 24344s | um |
| 24346s | the there's no flash of lightning in |
| 24348s | hand right because if you showed me a a |
| 24351s | flash there I would quite happily slam |
| 24354s | the Titan press draw three and then play |
| 24357s | flash |
| 24358s | card and say have your ten I I honestly |
| 24361s | could not care less about your 10 damage |
| 24363s | because I intend to kill you next turn |
| 24365s | um without that little trickier overall |
| 24369s | I do like this though because it still |
| 24371s | needs to be dealt with it's effectively |
| 24373s | cleared the board and yeah there's still |
| 24375s | some some uh burst potential in Requiem |
| 24379s | sand |
| 24380s | yeah absolutely |
| 24382s | and the draw three next turn right you |
| 24385s | can still just if it lives try and set |
| 24388s | it up next turn but it's a big if a lot |
| 24390s | of the time for sure yeah still lacking |
| 24393s | a couple of crucial card draw pieces |
| 24395s | really to be able to tie this together |
| 24397s | didn't draw off the Titan of course as |
| 24400s | discussed |
| 24402s | um and then honestly like like Mr |
| 24404s | worldwide would probably be the draw |
| 24405s | here to go with this hand just to maybe |
| 24407s | tutor out a a flash or an ancestral |
| 24410s | knowledge something like that |
| 24418s | coin gonna be thrown out |
| 24421s | is there any are there any Rifts in the |
| 24423s | bin does this actually do anything I |
| 24425s | don't think so |
| 24429s | still though decent board there for him |
| 24432s | locked in managed to get rid of the |
| 24433s | Titan so no true because I think it'd be |
| 24436s | fair to say that Hemlock would imagine |
| 24437s | they were very dead if that Titan did |
| 24440s | not die that turn right because like |
| 24442s | draw three overload go is a little bit |
| 24444s | scary so be able to clear that up as |
| 24447s | well as producing a board or a |
| 24449s | significant board as well so not bad at |
| 24452s | all |
| 24453s | but 15 is by no means safe Titan or not |
| 24462s | oh |
| 24465s | is it |
| 24467s | is it altered here |
| 24475s | unclear |
| 24476s | had two lethal outs though right uh bolt |
| 24480s | or crash were both lethal of this uh oh |
| 24484s | yes it'll get cheap enough wouldn't it |
| 24485s | yeah yep |
| 24487s | you either goes bolt bolt and then the |
| 24489s | crash that is in hand costs one or you |
| 24492s | would go wait no it would so if you got |
| 24494s | second crash here you'd play one ball |
| 24496s | you'd then have to pay two for this |
| 24497s | crash and then the new crash that you |
| 24499s | discovered would still cost once that |
| 24501s | that way around doesn't work |
| 24505s | so close but maybe so far |
| 24508s | Hemlock needs to do something big here |
| 24515s | and the problem here as well for hemlock |
| 24518s | is the um |
| 24521s | the stomper doesn't |
| 24524s | maybe it does with the overload |
| 24526s | something doesn't really |
| 24529s | feel like it does much right because say |
| 24532s | one spell away from a good time for |
| 24533s | breakfast |
| 24536s | yeah you can draw Crash or discover into |
| 24540s | crash off the top right and have uh ways |
| 24543s | of doing that so so is this like |
| 24546s | stumper |
| 24547s | hero power and then Rev |
| 24553s | to low Tempo turn though isn't it |
| 24565s | it's not pressing |
| 24569s | okay not gonna bother with this dumper |
| 24571s | yeah I think yeah that's why I was |
| 24573s | trying to work out I was like well you |
| 24575s | have to press it up all right because |
| 24577s | you know right like if there were a |
| 24580s | three damage spell in hand right like a |
| 24582s | bolt or an overdraft or something like |
| 24584s | that you died on the previous turn right |
| 24586s | so you know one of the cards you're it's |
| 24588s | currently being held is not a source of |
| 24590s | three damage Therefore your opponent |
| 24592s | would have to draw multiple copies of |
| 24595s | three damage in the same turn to be able |
| 24597s | to kill you from this position |
| 24599s | speaking of which |
| 24602s | and now the stomp is there as a backup |
| 24604s | next turn right to try and solidify the |
| 24606s | board |
| 24613s | so how do you do this |
| 24618s | yeah just kill the one for |
| 24621s | in the school |
| 24630s | yeah all could you see overdraft of that |
| 24632s | Discovery and you're like oh yeah I'm so |
| 24634s | overloaded overdraft is the nuts if |
| 24636s | there's one more damage than a lightning |
| 24638s | bolt would have been |
| 24648s | do you like the totem over just using |
| 24651s | the manual to get the schooling out the |
| 24653s | way |
| 24655s | I think so because it currently lives on |
| 24659s | board |
| 24661s | right and you're in the weird Niche |
| 24663s | scenario where you're trying to have |
| 24665s | things to stick I guess I was wondering |
| 24668s | if you drew Biola bioluminescence right |
| 24670s | and you've already spent one manner on |
| 24672s | creating the fish first does that change |
| 24674s | yeah that's the argument right because |
| 24677s | this way you've already spent two mana |
| 24679s | on having a minion on board already |
| 24680s | right which could potentially live based |
| 24682s | on what you're looking at on the other |
| 24684s | side and it costs you two Mana to get |
| 24686s | your first minion in play from the |
| 24688s | schooling as well right so it's it's |
| 24690s | quite similar either way |
| 24697s | I guess as well there's like options for |
| 24700s | taunt |
| 24701s | right which would then defend you three |
| 24703s | one potentially |
| 24705s | um true yep |
| 24716s | weirdly of course like |
| 24719s | could make the argument of like well you |
| 24721s | hold on to schooling because it's just |
| 24723s | another nature spell you can cast to get |
| 24724s | discounts but no it isn't for some |
| 24726s | reason you spend them |
| 24728s | because you spend it anyway no it |
| 24730s | literally just isn't a nature spell oh |
| 24732s | right sure sorry yeah yeah I was |
| 24735s | thinking of where you spend the manner |
| 24737s | which reduces the same amount so it |
| 24739s | doesn't actually change anything but |
| 24740s | yeah you're right it's not even an age |
| 24742s | spell it would be nonsense anyway yes |
| 24744s | but yeah it's just that it's just that |
| 24746s | weird position where it's like the spell |
| 24747s | that summons a bunch of fish to your |
| 24750s | side does not have anything to do with |
| 24751s | nature apparently it strikes |
| 24754s | minion |
| 24757s | I don't know about it tell me I don't |
| 24760s | think so I'm not that I can recall |
| 24762s | wait when did Rexall become the Arbiter |
| 24764s | of nature I'm very confused got all the |
| 24766s | other animals |
| 24768s | all the other animals yes he has all |
| 24770s | them don't didn't remember a fish |
| 24773s | okay |
| 24775s | isn't leoka fish no no it's |
| 24780s | it's a wyvern I know |
| 24783s | why |
| 24788s | yeah I thought that about a certain |
| 24789s | classic Hearthstone as well but still |
| 24792s | eight nine years later people don't |
| 24794s | accept it just say Shaman like a normal |
| 24797s | person that's all it takes no I think |
| 24799s | viewers would be upset if that happened |
| 24801s | yeah maybe |
| 24808s | foreign |
| 24811s | suddenly is it |
| 24824s | to us at 14 if the trade happens but no |
| 24827s | remori is there so yeah that is plenty |
| 24831s | isn't it yeah yep wow okay Hemlock |
| 24833s | getting the win with the warrior getting |
| 24835s | it done and they're looking pretty good |
| 24839s | the the very both games now have been so |
| 24843s | close right like rec room in game one |
| 24845s | with the outcast Demon Hunter was pretty |
| 24848s | much just one stuck board away from just |
| 24850s | obliterating Hemlock with haveria and |
| 24853s | then in this one what three damage off |
| 24855s | and there were lethal outs on that turn |
| 24857s | that Requiem went for missed and then |
| 24860s | Hemlock managed to stabilize reverse the |
| 24863s | pressure bang 2-0 so far this could be a |
| 24866s | a surprising 3-0 but made up of very |
| 24870s | close game so far |
| 24872s | yeah and I think absolutely right to go |
| 24875s | for it in the position he did right |
| 24878s | because recognize there were lethal outs |
| 24879s | there with uh double lightning bolt |
| 24881s | discover I'm not sure if there are other |
| 24882s | combinations that did it that may have |
| 24884s | been the only one which does make it you |
| 24886s | know quite a low percentage out there's |
| 24887s | 12 total nature spells that you can |
| 24890s | discover there are 13 in total but you |
| 24892s | can't hit another copy of lightning |
| 24893s | reflexes from lightning reflexes |
| 24895s | um making it 12 so hitting uh lightning |
| 24898s | bolt twice in a row if that is the |
| 24900s | specific out is quite unlikely but at |
| 24901s | the same time the hand had bricked at |
| 24904s | that point |
| 24905s | there was no right yeah there was no |
| 24907s | ancestral knowledge there was no Flow |
| 24909s | Rider like what were you supposed to do |
| 24911s | so you opened the lightning reflexes |
| 24913s | because sometimes you hit flash of |
| 24916s | lightning right and then you just play |
| 24917s | that as your card draw try and start |
| 24919s | cycling through at that point and get |
| 24921s | the hand going and the problem is the |
| 24922s | turn after if you wait well yeah you've |
| 24924s | got one more card but they've probably |
| 24926s | got more armor because they know that |
| 24929s | they don't want to drop Health right |
| 24930s | it's not like a surprise oh they're |
| 24932s | shaming I didn't expect them to burst me |
| 24934s | right it's it's what the deck does so |
| 24936s | yeah I think it was just uh it was a |
| 24938s | good effort from rec room I think the uh |
| 24940s | the attempt was 100 correct it does mean |
| 24943s | now a Hemlock just has a hunter left |
| 24946s | um and it is going to be the uh the sort |
| 24948s | of Beast Hunter |
| 24950s | um and not the Arcane hunter that we've |
| 24951s | been seeing uh I don't know actually is |
| 24953s | it 50 50 what is it uh oh sorry it's |
| 24956s | nowhere near 50 50. I happen to be |
| 24958s | looking at the part of the deck lists |
| 24959s | that just has it Beast Hunters on but |
| 24962s | yeah eight Arcane hunters and uh three B |
| 24964s | centers I believe |
| 24966s | um so definitely the Lesser broad |
| 24968s | archetype but I do think both decks and |
| 24971s | it's something that obviously I'm |
| 24972s | enjoying about the meta is both decks |
| 24975s | have Merit I don't think one is just |
| 24977s | strictly way better than the other they |
| 24979s | do just play differently and attempt |
| 24981s | different things so |
| 24982s | um I'm looking forward to seeing this |
| 24983s | one because I think I've only cast |
| 24984s | Arcane Hunter today |
| 24986s | yes same I think so Gabby is playing 40 |
| 24990s | Hunter and except I think it may have |
| 24992s | been banned in The Gabby series that we |
| 24995s | see yeah Gabby Hemlock and goo I think |
| 24997s | yeah okay man two of those players have |
| 24999s | already qualified yeah yeah for sure and |
| 25001s | I think |
| 25002s | um I think 40 Hunter is a a deck that |
| 25005s | doesn't necessarily get a great deal of |
| 25007s | respect from top players right like you |
| 25012s | know this feeling right when there is a |
| 25013s | hunter deck that just spit everyone or |
| 25016s | trashes exactly like it's including you |
| 25019s | including me absolutely like for some |
| 25022s | reason like outright Agro Face Hunter |
| 25025s | like I imagine Arcane hunter gets more |
| 25028s | respect as like a skill cap deck than |
| 25030s | this deck does right from top players |
| 25032s | there's something about just outright |
| 25034s | going face and weaving in damage that |
| 25036s | you know players respects as a thing |
| 25038s | that takes |
| 25039s | um skill to do whereas spend manner on |
| 25042s | beasts hit opponent in head when bored |
| 25045s | is stuck hunter that tends to be |
| 25047s | disregarded by top players the community |
| 25049s | just doesn't respect honest honorable |
| 25051s | work right that's the problem I'm just |
| 25055s | gonna play some beasts and I'm gonna get |
| 25056s | you all right what's what's wrong with |
| 25058s | that that's a very simple honest plan |
| 25059s | yeah people hate it's gonna I'm just |
| 25062s | gonna summon my fish and then we're all |
| 25064s | gonna March towards your face |
| 25069s | you will not see a fish in this deck |
| 25072s | from hemlock I'm just telling you I |
| 25073s | don't think there is one |
| 25075s | noted to uh message the design team make |
| 25079s | sure the fish gets snuck into hunter in |
| 25080s | the next set well I've already I've |
| 25082s | already could tell you what the design |
| 25084s | could be |
| 25085s | gone a 4-2 charging puffer fish called |
| 25089s | Puffer |
| 25091s | there you go free design blizzard what |
| 25094s | do you want from me |
| 25096s | uh this is a big fan |
| 25101s | I'm still waiting for my placeholder but |
| 25104s | that's the best design I've ever thought |
| 25105s | of where Improvement you know you're the |
| 25108s | ideas guy I'm iterating on the idea |
| 25110s | right so it is it's literally just a |
| 25112s | three Mana minion that is a 4-2 with |
| 25115s | charge but it's called Always Puffer |
| 25118s | that's also that's fine that's fine and |
| 25120s | then that's it as well you could add the |
| 25122s | placeholder as a hunter card and that's |
| 25124s | another fish card |
| 25135s | you guys the blizzard know me we've met |
| 25138s | just send me an email I'll send you all |
| 25140s | my ideas we've met |
| 25142s | me in blizzard we've met |
| 25145s | and that right there is the problem they |
| 25148s | have indeed met you oh yeah I forgot |
| 25150s | about that okay well moving on fish are |
| 25153s | Making Waves here |
| 25155s | but knowing the way Hemlock wants is |
| 25156s | this board is pretty much cleared up by |
| 25158s | the piranhas |
| 25168s | so though plenty more threats available |
| 25171s | from hemlock |
| 25176s | must remember there's a secret in play |
| 25179s | yeah we got gut earlier didn't we we did |
| 25181s | yeah we got big time here |
| 25187s | but now the ultimate play |
| 25191s | coin Enzo yeah this is one of those as |
| 25194s | literally anyone not being exactly the |
| 25197s | player coining into you do not want to |
| 25199s | see because you're like oh my points |
| 25201s | burn cards are all cheaper now hmm |
| 25204s | hey at the very least you got a 3-3 with |
| 25206s | charge out of it and you're shipping |
| 25208s | five damage face already it's not a bad |
| 25210s | spot to be in |
| 25213s | honestly |
| 25215s | it's kind of a good looking Stomper |
| 25219s | I was so I was looking at star power but |
| 25222s | the more I looked at the hand I was like |
| 25223s | wait why spend money killing it when you |
| 25226s | can spend money killing your opponent |
| 25227s | it's like stomp a banana go why kill |
| 25231s | minion when go face do trick yeah |
| 25233s | exactly |
| 25241s | so let's let's actually evaluate this |
| 25243s | right like instead of killing a five |
| 25245s | five you add a four four and a banana to |
| 25248s | the board right so you're adding a five |
| 25249s | five to the board and you're leaving a |
| 25250s | five five up |
| 25252s | the your payoff for that is your |
| 25254s | opponent pretty much gets to do nothing |
| 25257s | on the following right right in the |
| 25259s | ideal scenario where they don't have |
| 25261s | specific things in hand they haven't |
| 25263s | opened a schooling which is always one |
| 25265s | thing to look at right if they've just |
| 25266s | played a schooling and held the fish in |
| 25268s | hand certainly your speaker's dumper |
| 25269s | gets less good yeah and it's not they |
| 25271s | can tighten next turn to clue |
| 25275s | yep true |
| 25278s | this is very similar though right |
| 25280s | it's along the same lines it's kind of |
| 25281s | letting them play the turn but it puts |
| 25283s | you know about five damage worth of |
| 25284s | stuff in play and leaves the five five |
| 25286s | up |
| 25290s | the only weird thing is stomper next |
| 25293s | turn then does plane to Titan turn right |
| 25296s | which |
| 25298s | is the only like off timing yes thing if |
| 25301s | we but there are other options a star |
| 25302s | power uh banana next turn potentially |
| 25305s | there's obviously the card they're gonna |
| 25307s | draw uh but it's just that stomper |
| 25309s | timing then is a little bit off |
| 25315s | but no AOE |
| 25318s | there's AOE you can zero mount a bolt |
| 25321s | crash if you want to right like close |
| 25322s | the board |
| 25323s | oh but that ball could go face |
| 25330s | personally I don't play as if lightning |
| 25332s | Balkan Target minions |
| 25335s | but yes I mean seriously they're exactly |
| 25337s | yes |
| 25339s | so you have the Thorium in your hand |
| 25341s | right so one of the things you do have |
| 25342s | to look out for with hands like this are |
| 25344s | so you've just played a flash right so |
| 25346s | you can think about next turn just |
| 25348s | dumping your entire hand come hell or |
| 25350s | high water and then you open your light |
| 25352s | you open your lightning reflexes you |
| 25353s | play your lightning bolts you play like |
| 25355s | a feral Spirits or something from the |
| 25357s | lightning reflexes and then you go from |
| 25358s | there |
| 25359s | um and then if it whiffs then you have |
| 25361s | the Thor in the next turn to refill your |
| 25363s | hand and draw a whole bunch of cards as |
| 25365s | it stands hemlock's one two punch has |
| 25368s | worked out perfectly here right yeah you |
| 25371s | can see it Rec van wreck valve just |
| 25373s | saying it over and over stomper give me |
| 25375s | the stomper come on I know you've got it |
| 25377s | stomp on me I'm afraid yeah you are you |
| 25380s | are absolutely getting stomped on my |
| 25382s | friend yeah I am |
| 25386s | I am so surprised |
| 25389s | that wreckfam was okay just getting |
| 25391s | absolutely smacked this turn |
| 25395s | I I mean if there's no stomper in hand |
| 25398s | right the way Rick van has played this |
| 25400s | if in his two discovers from lightning |
| 25402s | reflexes he finds a bioluminescence this |
| 25406s | is lethal pretty often |
| 25409s | and if it isn't then he can make the |
| 25412s | play I Was describing before right where |
| 25414s | the ball gets cleared he might be still |
| 25415s | hanging around with maybe five to eight |
| 25417s | health right at the end of it all |
| 25419s | potentially and then he can use the |
| 25421s | thorum to to reload so it just yeah it |
| 25424s | just takes the risk exactly yeah red |
| 25426s | band knows he went all in against no |
| 25428s | speaker stomper and if speaker stomper |
| 25429s | is there he loses the game that's the |
| 25431s | decision he made he has to be okay with |
| 25433s | his choices he does not currently look |
| 25435s | like a man that is okay with his choices |
| 25437s | but it's it's where he's gonna have to |
| 25440s | live because it's the the choice he made |
| 25442s | this game |
| 25447s | and there's just nothing he can do about |
| 25451s | it now |
| 25453s | [Music] |
| 25455s | still not true though is it ah I don't |
| 25457s | know |
| 25459s | I just I I okay I see |
| 25462s | a turn that can be played now and not |
| 25465s | strictly die but |
| 25468s | it feels like breakfast dead |
| 25476s | it was a surprising pitch so |
| 25479s | I I don't know I felt like this game was |
| 25481s | still kind of low-key winnable |
| 25483s | what |
| 25492s | okay let me let me just deal with what |
| 25494s | recfam's actually doing |
| 25497s | and then I'll go back to where my head |
| 25498s | was at this is all I'm gonna say this is |
| 25501s | gonna be hamlock's draw next to him |
| 25504s | okay sure |
| 25510s | sorry I've done that thing I'm terrible |
| 25511s | at this where I've immediately now |
| 25513s | deleted the board state from my brain |
| 25515s | but theoretically a legal Hearthstone |
| 25517s | play on that turn was bolt one full |
| 25520s | health minion bolt another full health |
| 25522s | Minion Play Crash of Thunder to clear |
| 25524s | the board right like that worked yes |
| 25527s | you can also do that with Radiance |
| 25529s | because Radiance costs three and |
| 25531s | Radiance is discounting three nature |
| 25533s | spells on that turn |
| 25534s | right |
| 25538s | yes I want to say with this but I'm also |
| 25541s | losing my mental grip on the board stuff |
| 25542s | sure yeah you know absolutely yeah but |
| 25544s | we're doing weird hypothetical things if |
| 25546s | that is all accurate you then clear the |
| 25548s | board you have a three four and a zero |
| 25550s | two stuck against a two or three card |
| 25552s | Hunter on the other side that could |
| 25554s | potentially be doing nothing and you |
| 25556s | have the thorum to be able to draw cards |
| 25558s | afterwards |
| 25559s | you are then 100 reliant on exactly your |
| 25563s | second copy of lightning reflexes |
| 25565s | finding you the cards that you |
| 25566s | eventually need to kill your opponent |
| 25567s | with because you've spent all of the |
| 25570s | other cards that kill your opponent yeah |
| 25573s | um so maybe with that in mind wreck |
| 25575s | Van's line of just looking for zaps |
| 25577s | specifically from the lightning reflexes |
| 25579s | uh was a better way of going |
| 25582s | um because you can see as well like Rick |
| 25583s | van missed he hit one zap and then |
| 25585s | missed on the other one and he's still |
| 25586s | in a position where he didn't |
| 25587s | necessarily die immediately right which |
| 25590s | is right something at the very least |
| 25591s | this probably is going to be all of the |
| 25593s | overload and unlock right I imagine this |
| 25596s | turn |
| 25598s | because uh on one Health now is not the |
| 25601s | time to be greedy |
| 25603s | yeah now you have to either miraculously |
| 25607s | kill your opponent or discover altered |
| 25610s | chord |
| 25612s | oh |
| 25614s | but there will be enough Mana altered |
| 25619s | uh it doesn't hit it needed lighting |
| 25620s | reflexes yes that was good ordering |
| 25622s | right he needed to hold down you want |
| 25623s | bolt to overload again after the unlock |
| 25626s | happened to then be able to a go fishing |
| 25630s | with the flow Rider and then B uh |
| 25632s | actually be overloaded for the discount |
| 25634s | when he eventually discovered the |
| 25635s | altered chord yeah smart choices from |
| 25638s | Rec from uh not a surprise coming from a |
| 25640s | play of his caliber but unfortunately |
| 25642s | this match was not it in Hemlock just |
| 25646s | strides to Victory with a 3-0 win and |
| 25649s | the last game not quite as on a knife's |
| 25652s | edge as the uh the previous two but um |
| 25655s | but yeah really really good victory |
| 25658s | there ever Hemlock and the lineup |
| 25660s | getting it done uh so the uh the XL sort |
| 25663s | of the the Beast Hunter getting work |
| 25665s | done the enrage Warrior getting the work |
| 25668s | done and obviously yes the Mage pretty |
| 25670s | common deck but just about holding on |
| 25672s | versus that uh that out uh Outcast Demon |
| 25676s | Hunter so even though uh what score wise |
| 25679s | one-sided series I think a very exciting |
| 25681s | series for the future of this tournament |
| 25683s | because Hemlock is now looking good to |
| 25686s | move on to tomorrow and we're gonna see |
| 25688s | more and rage Warrior more of this beat |
| 25690s | Hunter and see how that's going |
| 25692s | yeah breaks up some of the uh the Europe |
| 25694s | dominance as well which you know for the |
| 25696s | the sake of variety is uh is worth |
| 25699s | seeing so yeah I think good series |
| 25701s | overall obviously bad if you're a |
| 25703s | wreckfam fan um I think the last time I |
| 25704s | got to cast wreck Batman tournament he |
| 25706s | put in an incredible performance I was |
| 25708s | super impressed with him I was really |
| 25709s | glowing about the the way he played |
| 25711s | afterwards I don't think that was much |
| 25714s | different in terms of the decisions he |
| 25716s | actually made on the board It's just |
| 25718s | sometimes things pan out that way |
| 25720s | um it was some weird matchups and some |
| 25723s | kind of very interesting Niche draws in |
| 25726s | those matchups as well on the other side |
| 25728s | and I think when you put in all of this |
| 25730s | work and you get to this point and then |
| 25732s | you look at a board State and you |
| 25735s | evaluate my best plan here is just to go |
| 25737s | all in and say my opponent doesn't have |
| 25739s | speaker stomper and then they have the |
| 25741s | speaker stomper which is such a |
| 25744s | heartbreaker to run into after the long |
| 25746s | Winding Road it takes two to get to this |
| 25748s | point but sometimes that is the life of |
| 25750s | a professional card game player it is |
| 25753s | what it is uh we do still have some more |
| 25756s | matches coming up for you before we |
| 25757s | close out the day a little bit later on |
| 25759s | but for now we're going to jump to a |
| 25760s | quick break while we start the next one |
| 25761s | so don't go anywhere and we'll be right |
| 25763s | back |
| 25765s | foreign |
| 25793s | [Music] |
| 25816s | [Music] |
| 25836s | [Music] |
| 25839s | foreign |
| 25843s | [Music] |
| 25874s | [Music] |
| 25880s | [Music] |
| 25896s | thank you |
| 25901s | [Music] |
| 25908s | foreign |
| 25909s | [Music] |
| 25918s | [Music] |
| 25927s | [Music] |
| 25933s | [Music] |
| 25943s | [Music] |
| 25969s | [Music] |
| 25986s | [Applause] |
| 25987s | [Music] |
| 25990s | [Applause] |
| 25991s | [Music] |
| 25994s | [Applause] |
| 25994s | [Music] |
| 26001s | thank you |
| 26002s | [Applause] |
| 26003s | [Music] |
| 26010s | [Applause] |
| 26010s | [Music] |
| 26064s | thank you |
| 26070s | foreign |
| 26101s | thank you |
| 26108s | [Applause] |
| 26109s | [Music] |
| 26119s | hello everyone welcome back to the |
| 26121s | Hearthstone master store summer |
| 26122s | Championship we are starting to wind |
| 26125s | down to our last few matches for the day |
| 26127s | and to bring you our second to last |
| 26129s | match is myself Don and joined by |
| 26132s | Lorinda how you doing how you feeling |
| 26134s | going into this almost last match almost |
| 26137s | last match still hyped up still riding |
| 26140s | the adrenaline of the Masters Tour and |
| 26142s | there's still plenty to go I think it's |
| 26144s | helped a little bit by the fact this |
| 26145s | meta has been significantly faster I |
| 26148s | think than I had expected uh there's a |
| 26151s | lot of debate would it be really slow |
| 26152s | would it be really fast it's not really |
| 26154s | fast because Mage is a deck but it's |
| 26156s | been pretty quick today and that always |
| 26158s | helps keep it rolling through the day I |
| 26160s | can't wait to see this one |
| 26161s | yeah and there has been several uh 3-0 |
| 26164s | matches as well that we've seen on |
| 26166s | stream throughout the day as well so |
| 26168s | that certainly uh can contribute and one |
| 26170s | of those that we just saw was that |
| 26173s | Hemlock versus wreck van match uh |
| 26176s | previously we did see Hemlock taking |
| 26179s | that 3-0 over recfam so Hemlock gonna be |
| 26182s | joining that top eight for tomorrow |
| 26186s | yeah good to see Hemlock on cam as well |
| 26188s | one of those players that um yeah we see |
| 26190s | from the other side a lot from like the |
| 26193s | regular streamers like banterface in |
| 26195s | particular but we don't get to see him |
| 26196s | play much so good to see him going |
| 26198s | through group C though we're going to |
| 26199s | concentrate on our pocket train |
| 26201s | racing through there on the tracks out |
| 26204s | of a station or something I don't know |
| 26205s | how that went in the end we got there me |
| 26206s | and TJ check the Bots |
| 26208s | um but now it's gonna be dredi and nagon |
| 26210s | for the other slots from a group C Jedi |
| 26213s | the American hope we're hoping as |
| 26216s | American casters Dawn me you and TJ the |
| 26219s | Americans |
| 26220s | that's right American victory as neutral |
| 26222s | casters it's gonna be fine yeah totally |
| 26225s | neutral no bias whatsoever but yeah we |
| 26228s | are we are interested to see if it is |
| 26231s | going to be the America's player going |
| 26232s | through but yeah we are going to be |
| 26234s | seeing this and uh not only are we gonna |
| 26237s | be seeing them play some similar attacks |
| 26240s | that looks like the first match actually |
| 26241s | might be a rogue mirror match but we |
| 26244s | have to talk about these players a |
| 26245s | little bit and talk about uh some of |
| 26247s | these Decks that they're bringing |
| 26248s | larinda walk us through what these |
| 26251s | players have like so Negan who worth |
| 26255s | noting tamsoko who's playing in the |
| 26257s | final game of the day final match of the |
| 26259s | day later it's got the same lineup so |
| 26261s | you get it twice in a row now you're |
| 26263s | going to brought the Warlock which is |
| 26264s | going to be interesting the the Thaddeus |
| 26266s | lock that everybody loves including me |
| 26269s | um the macrogue the Mage and the the |
| 26272s | Trent Druid so |
| 26275s | he's he's going to be bringing that so |
| 26276s | his hands circulator but dread eye as |
| 26278s | you see here with the outcast the |
| 26280s | rainbow Mage the macrogue and the secret |
| 26283s | Hunter the Arcane Hunters I prefer to |
| 26285s | call it personally but I'm a fussy old |
| 26286s | man so who cares |
| 26288s | um yeah red eye has gone from strength |
| 26290s | to strength I feel Dawn since um his |
| 26292s | grandmaster's appearance I think he's |
| 26293s | much more rounded player now |
| 26296s | yeah absolutely |
| 26297s | absolutely had wonderful success |
| 26300s | at previous tournaments and so far |
| 26302s | looking pretty good if he can get |
| 26304s | through this match and make it to day |
| 26306s | two for our tournament this weekend here |
| 26309s | is uh doretta's macrogue that we will be |
| 26312s | seeing in game number one and one thing |
| 26315s | that I want to point out in this |
| 26316s | decklist specifically uh is this double |
| 26319s | Scourge Illusionist and double |
| 26322s | Mothership uh we haven't seen that in a |
| 26325s | lot of the other macros |
| 26327s | yeah interesting it's a way of making |
| 26329s | sure you keep mix on the board which is |
| 26331s | a thing they tend to favor the eight |
| 26333s | drop don't they the seven drop that |
| 26335s | makes the eight drop which I can never |
| 26336s | remember the name of colossal eight drop |
| 26338s | maker man magnetic person that's what |
| 26341s | it's called |
| 26343s | um but yeah Mothership a little bit |
| 26344s | cheaper so you can actually cast it if |
| 26345s | you draw it at some point which seems |
| 26348s | like a sensible move so yeah looking |
| 26349s | forward to seeing how this one pans out |
| 26350s | for him so far obviously both these |
| 26353s | players are one and one so it's panning |
| 26354s | out kind of 50 50ish by the sounds of it |
| 26359s | yeah and as you mentioned Negan on the |
| 26362s | other side there getting ready for this |
| 26364s | series uh with that I I don't know I |
| 26368s | almost want to just call it like this |
| 26369s | Japanese lineup because as you mentioned |
| 26371s | both of our Japanese players have |
| 26373s | brought this lineup here that you see on |
| 26375s | screen that drum Druid the rainbow Mage |
| 26377s | that Thaddeus Warlock and macrogue and |
| 26381s | we did get to see uh one of these |
| 26385s | warlocks earlier which |
| 26387s | built up a big board of stats uh is it |
| 26391s | gonna be able to do it again with things |
| 26392s | like that slime and forged wheels |
| 26395s | I mean the answer is yes because it does |
| 26397s | it every time it has never failed in the |
| 26400s | history of hearthstone just to do that |
| 26402s | thing turn three Forge turn four make |
| 26404s | two seven sevens turn five slime turn |
| 26406s | six 15 fatties it's the same every game |
| 26408s | that's how it works |
| 26410s | some of that isn't even possible but you |
| 26412s | know it still happens anyway |
| 26414s | I'm not bitter this deck has not hurt |
| 26417s | no yeah I couldn't tell couldn't tell at |
| 26420s | all uh absolutely not the reason I asked |
| 26423s | you that question of course not not to |
| 26426s | project a little bit there uh yeah well |
| 26429s | okay so overall the match up here how do |
| 26432s | you feel about these uh in this matchup |
| 26435s | we did see uh the outcast Demon Hunter |
| 26438s | being banned from dread eyes lineup and |
| 26441s | the rainbow Mage is banned on the other |
| 26443s | side so how do you feel going into some |
| 26446s | of these matchups do you think that |
| 26447s | dread eyes three remaining decks outside |
| 26449s | of that Outcast stage are going to be |
| 26450s | able to kind of go fast enough be able |
| 26453s | to get underneath things like this |
| 26455s | Warlock |
| 26456s | so just looking now yeah it looks like |
| 26458s | the Jedi's Rogue is really well placed |
| 26461s | and naegon's Rogue is kind of badly |
| 26464s | placed so maybe the Rogue mirror if |
| 26466s | nagon can snatch that would be a pivotal |
| 26468s | thing we're going straight into that |
| 26469s | Rogue mirror now if he loses that Rogue |
| 26471s | mirror |
| 26472s | it's not all over these are these are |
| 26474s | numbers that sort of 60 40s and 55 45s |
| 26477s | it's not like oh no they're all 80 20s |
| 26479s | but if if I think if nagon loses this |
| 26481s | Rogue mirror he is in a really tough |
| 26482s | spot to get out of this matchup so it |
| 26484s | could be a very important game number |
| 26485s | one |
| 26486s | yeah absolutely and I think maybe not as |
| 26490s | important for this uh game number one in |
| 26493s | Conquest as it might be in something |
| 26495s | like Last Hero standing but you know in |
| 26497s | Conquest you're gonna have to get a win |
| 26499s | with each of the three decks anyways so |
| 26501s | even if they win game number one they're |
| 26503s | gonna have to get a a win with the Rogue |
| 26505s | at some point during the series so we |
| 26507s | see them yeah that's kind of what I mean |
| 26509s | though I feel that Jedi's Rogue will get |
| 26511s | a win in this series whereas Nikon's |
| 26513s | might struggle Just a Touch so because |
| 26517s | the way the bands have worked out just |
| 26518s | looking at my little graph that I do |
| 26520s | each game so if no one does lose it his |
| 26523s | Rogue might sort of get stuck in the mud |
| 26524s | a bit that's what I think it's important |
| 26526s | but you are right like it's not a big |
| 26528s | deal he does get a chance of getting out |
| 26530s | there even so |
| 26532s | yeah okay well we did see the Mulligan |
| 26535s | there and they both do end up getting a |
| 26538s | one drop or multiple one drops in the |
| 26540s | beginning here so at least they kind of |
| 26542s | have that initial bit of burst damage to |
| 26544s | be able to get on board uh the free |
| 26546s | frequency oscillator is here for Jedi |
| 26549s | are also very interesting leading into |
| 26551s | getting these potential uh bigger Max |
| 26555s | slightly earlier like this mimarron and |
| 26558s | this is kind of interesting here as well |
| 26559s | does dredi want to go ahead and just |
| 26561s | play that second frequency oscillator |
| 26563s | and then follow up with that mirror on |
| 26565s | next turn if he does it's kind of |
| 26568s | dumping almost everything from hand |
| 26569s | already I think he's planning what do I |
| 26572s | want to do with his Mothership so when |
| 26574s | do I want to play the second door slide |
| 26575s | do I want to play memorandum and |
| 26576s | oscillator next turn |
| 26579s | um or do I want to maybe even dagger |
| 26581s | next turn and set up a turn for |
| 26582s | Mothership |
| 26583s | with the coin so that's that's what that |
| 26586s | was about but yeah get stuff on the |
| 26587s | board have more things than your |
| 26589s | opponent has things when you're the |
| 26591s | Rogue versus the Rogue and |
| 26593s | eventually if one of your things sticks |
| 26595s | one of those doesn't then you make big |
| 26597s | thing win game |
| 26599s | yeah yeah that is definitely kind of |
| 26602s | been the story in some of these games |
| 26603s | for sure uh that the memorand I just |
| 26608s | think is gonna be so strong here and |
| 26610s | being able to use this bone Spike to |
| 26612s | clear something up be able to get this |
| 26614s | memory out and now the copper tail Snoop |
| 26618s | coming into hand as well gonna be able |
| 26619s | to add an additional coin to get that |
| 26622s | Mother Ship down a little bit earlier as |
| 26623s | well if there's not really something |
| 26625s | beneficial in next turns draw |
| 26629s | yeah uh this this sticking is |
| 26634s | it's hard to say it's game winning but |
| 26636s | it's so game defining it's absolutely |
| 26638s | huge just just sticking one of these on |
| 26640s | the board |
| 26642s | um yeah with those two five stats |
| 26645s | ouch |
| 26646s | oh Negan probably trying to help for |
| 26649s | some sort of poison |
| 26652s | magnetic there just to be able to start |
| 26654s | clearing off the opponent's minions but |
| 26656s | uh unfortunately not there so tredai |
| 26659s | going to be able to start this this |
| 26662s | snowball this Cascade and if there is |
| 26664s | not an answer from the other side it |
| 26667s | could be absolutely game winning |
| 26673s | yeah it's just |
| 26676s | does it stick I think it just stays |
| 26679s | there |
| 26679s | four five six uh maybe not yeah |
| 26686s | maybe there is Rush so if there's enough |
| 26688s | magnetic stats |
| 26691s | it could get cleared Jedi I think maybe |
| 26694s | considering that with uh his really |
| 26697s | thinking about wanting to coin something |
| 26699s | out here |
| 26700s | find something else |
| 26705s | Divine Shield |
| 26711s | yep it makes a massive difference of |
| 26714s | course when |
| 26716s | you've only got the one Rush spark bot |
| 26718s | and you want to put two things in the |
| 26719s | system I have to tank seven at the very |
| 26721s | least if I can even get enough to deal |
| 26722s | with it here what sparkbox copper tail |
| 26724s | is that even enough with a hero power |
| 26726s | going face and the bone spot you're |
| 26728s | still a man is short right |
| 26730s | what about the invento |
| 26733s | four then you don't get the coin |
| 26737s | it sticks another turn the game's so in |
| 26740s | trouble |
| 26745s | I mean that was an incredible pickup for |
| 26747s | dread I I there was a couple of good |
| 26748s | results as well I think stealth was |
| 26750s | probably the ultimate uh best answer |
| 26752s | that he could have found there but |
| 26754s | Divine Shield definitely doesn't hurt uh |
| 26757s | but yeah there can be a lot of stats |
| 26759s | here but it's |
| 26761s | it's gonna have to be a little bit more |
| 26763s | than this and as you said taking seven |
| 26765s | damage to try to clear that Divine |
| 26767s | Shield does not feel great either |
| 26772s | yeah we have seen like the Rogue |
| 26776s | especially the Jedi version I think |
| 26777s | especially anyway but in general if it |
| 26780s | runs out of stuff on board does struggle |
| 26781s | to do the last bit of damage so taking |
| 26783s | the seven |
| 26784s | maybe not a total disaster like don't |
| 26788s | get me wrong I'm not a big fan of taking |
| 26789s | seven to just remove a Divine Shield |
| 26791s | that might come back but |
| 26793s | maybe it's just not as horrific As It |
| 26796s | Seems |
| 26798s | I'm I'm clutching at straws I think |
| 26801s | really but hey I can try oh my god well |
| 26804s | just uh make it stop |
| 26807s | laughs |
| 26808s | uh yeah |
| 26810s | yeah this is uh looking pretty favorite |
| 26813s | here for Jedi at this point talk about |
| 26816s | that Divine Shield yeah and Megan |
| 26818s | actually just gonna go ahead and say |
| 26821s | that it's over now not even spend any |
| 26823s | more thought on that just no more turns |
| 26825s | it's over right there so tonight quickly |
| 26828s | taking down that first game |
| 26830s | yeah absolutely just stuck into the |
| 26833s | moment we said it when the two fire came |
| 26834s | down like it's not over but it could be |
| 26836s | and |
| 26837s | it didn't get removed and it didn't even |
| 26839s | need to generate stuff because you know |
| 26840s | any just making another seven seven |
| 26843s | it's one of those games that happens |
| 26844s | sometimes in mirrors for all of |
| 26846s | hearthstone's existence especially aggro |
| 26848s | ones but yeah the Rogue one when it gets |
| 26849s | out of control no point messing around |
| 26853s | ouch |
| 26855s | yeah uh this has been the case for some |
| 26858s | of these matchups today and you know I |
| 26861s | don't know if it's a curse on the player |
| 26862s | who ends up not doing well or if I'm |
| 26864s | like a good luck charm maybe to the |
| 26866s | players who end up winning but so far uh |
| 26869s | the casted games that I have been able |
| 26871s | to do on stream uh have ended in a 3-0 |
| 26874s | so I don't know if we're gonna see that |
| 26876s | again in this one but that was a pretty |
| 26879s | brutal quick beat down there from dredi |
| 26882s | I mean I'm not paid by the hour you can |
| 26884s | stay if we're going to get 15-minute |
| 26886s | matches all day long you can come back |
| 26887s | next time for sure absolutely bring Dawn |
| 26889s | back everybody because I like this 15 |
| 26891s | minute stuff it's great |
| 26893s | um that's right as I said at the start |
| 26895s | of the show that's a big deal that that |
| 26897s | Rogue getting taken down because now |
| 26899s | nogon has to |
| 26901s | mashups that I consider unfavorable to |
| 26904s | come which there's many pinches of salt |
| 26906s | in there things that I consider |
| 26907s | unfavorable might not be |
| 26909s | um hsvp also considers them in favor but |
| 26911s | also they're still 55 to lose not 80 so |
| 26915s | it's not over I just think it's a big |
| 26917s | deal that Jedi's |
| 26918s | got that one out of the way and |
| 26921s | I think he's in a very strong spot to |
| 26922s | get to day two |
| 26924s | yeah well he's gonna have to get a win |
| 26927s | with this Arcane Hunter and his uh |
| 26930s | rainbow Mage to get there so what do you |
| 26934s | think he wants to bring in next does it |
| 26937s | does it matter I know in Conquest there |
| 26938s | is always that debate of just randomized |
| 26941s | but well I guess we're gonna see it now |
| 26943s | it does look like it is going to be that |
| 26944s | Arcane Hunter yeah it doesn't matter but |
| 26948s | you know people have preferences what |
| 26950s | they want to do some players used to |
| 26951s | just run it back every time which is |
| 26952s | actually a weakness like then it does |
| 26954s | matter if you know they're always going |
| 26955s | to run it back then it actually is a |
| 26957s | relevant Factor but yeah just just play |
| 26959s | what you feel like you just smash |
| 26960s | someone in the face for four turns do it |
| 26962s | again |
| 26963s | that's how he feels that's what he's |
| 26964s | gonna do |
| 26966s | on the other side yeah the Warlock |
| 26970s | I know it's not your favorite but uh if |
| 26973s | it gets a win we won't have to see it |
| 26974s | again |
| 26975s | I mean to some degree right this is I |
| 26978s | absolutely dislike playing against this |
| 26980s | particular deck because it's done me |
| 26981s | irreparable damage but |
| 26984s | it's if it wins bring it I've never ever |
| 26987s | criticize anyone for wanting to win a |
| 26988s | Hearthstone game my goodness absolutely |
| 26990s | I mean especially with the stakes that |
| 26992s | these players are playing for at this |
| 26994s | point you know trying to get into day |
| 26996s | number two an increase in the price pool |
| 26999s | and working towards that grand finalist |
| 27002s | win at the end of tomorrow to qualify |
| 27005s | for the World Championship but it's you |
| 27008s | know still quite a few games to get |
| 27010s | there at this point uh not out of the |
| 27013s | realm of possibility but gonna have to |
| 27015s | get through something the thing that I |
| 27017s | noticed right now about negan's hand |
| 27018s | though is that there is not a slime yet |
| 27020s | some of the other pieces right the |
| 27022s | Thaddeus the shallow grave just coming |
| 27024s | in hand but no slime just yet they will |
| 27028s | be I have faith |
| 27034s | it'll be there it'll turn up |
| 27037s | all right I think the order of event is |
| 27039s | draw the um the location now oh my |
| 27042s | goodness he doesn't know what he's doing |
| 27045s | then make a seven seven and then do all |
| 27046s | the slime |
| 27048s | come on now you gone this isn't a script |
| 27051s | meanwhile Jedi this is the script how |
| 27053s | how do I just instantly I think what |
| 27056s | five spells there |
| 27057s | four spells oh my goodness |
| 27060s | yeah and you know even without this buff |
| 27063s | without damage one thing that I'm really |
| 27065s | looking at for Jedi here is the urchin |
| 27068s | spines in hand not all of the Arcane |
| 27071s | Hunters are running urchin spines dread |
| 27073s | eyes list does and it is in hand so if |
| 27076s | that slime does show up next turn on |
| 27078s | turn five or even potentially on turn |
| 27080s | six then dreadi could potentially have |
| 27083s | that urchin spines the Ricochet shot |
| 27085s | some of these other damage spells to |
| 27087s | actually be able to answer those big |
| 27090s | bodies |
| 27094s | probably not actually |
| 27098s | noga must know something's coming though |
| 27099s | obviously the urchin spine is now a |
| 27101s | little bit telegraphed there's two four |
| 27103s | fours ready to go what are they doing |
| 27105s | why aren't they killing your seven seven |
| 27106s | tell you what because it knows it |
| 27108s | doesn't matter because there's no |
| 27109s | location in hand |
| 27110s | yeah yeah okay |
| 27112s | clear these up |
| 27114s | but also clear them up and it's kind of |
| 27117s | miss a go right |
| 27120s | it's buying himself time to tap a game |
| 27122s | most likely here |
| 27128s | can't really do much else and really is |
| 27132s | looking for that slime I mean the |
| 27135s | Warlock deck is built around pulling |
| 27137s | those out right cheating out these Mana |
| 27140s | big minions to get those out early and |
| 27144s | honestly I I think with playing the top |
| 27146s | deck reverberations and just doing a |
| 27148s | hero power here on turn five tretta has |
| 27151s | to recognize that there is no slime here |
| 27153s | right yeah absolutely that was pretty |
| 27156s | evident |
| 27158s | yeah and because of that he's decided to |
| 27160s | start forcing damage because look at |
| 27162s | this damage he's pushing now it's it's |
| 27164s | chunky right it's five but next turn is |
| 27166s | another eight without even playing a |
| 27167s | card |
| 27168s | here it is oh yeah he knows how the deck |
| 27172s | works now he's remembered it took him a |
| 27174s | moment |
| 27176s | as you mentioned though there is that |
| 27179s | push from dredi with potential follow-up |
| 27183s | damage so is this too late is it too |
| 27187s | late for the Slime here waiting until |
| 27189s | next time with the shallow grave yeah |
| 27191s | shallow gray with the Slime it's never |
| 27193s | too |
| 27203s | Symphony of sins is interesting but I |
| 27206s | definitely don't think it's coming down |
| 27208s | here and it doesn't pull the Thaddeus |
| 27210s | the Slime actually ends up pulling out |
| 27211s | that dark on but that is still pretty |
| 27214s | fantastic it's a lot of uh damage on the |
| 27217s | board but also damage that's just going |
| 27219s | to start hitting face immediately at the |
| 27221s | end of every turn for Negan just take 12 |
| 27223s | for no reason there you go Bam Bam take |
| 27225s | time I'll heal away to full as well |
| 27226s | that's all right that's perfectly Fair |
| 27228s | we're good with this |
| 27230s | yeah and the thing here too is this uh |
| 27233s | this reanimator in hand for Negan as |
| 27236s | well you've got the dark on that's going |
| 27239s | to come back with reborn since it will |
| 27242s | have been the only Undead that has died |
| 27244s | so even if Jedi goes and clears these he |
| 27248s | really does want to clear these because |
| 27250s | there is 24 damage uh that is facing |
| 27253s | down right now so definitely has to |
| 27255s | clear them otherwise he's just dead he's |
| 27257s | gonna do a million cards right |
| 27261s | very close to a million yeah |
| 27267s | okay |
| 27272s | that was a turn from dread eye to be |
| 27274s | fair like it looked like he was out of |
| 27275s | this and then just double arrow and off |
| 27277s | you go |
| 27279s | yeah I I really like the uh the play |
| 27282s | there by Jedi just going in on hey I can |
| 27285s | clear this and draw a bunch of cards |
| 27287s | let's do it but also picking up some |
| 27289s | more important uh pieces as well |
| 27291s | potential damage with that bow or if |
| 27295s | dread I can't manage to find a lethal |
| 27297s | and push damage there is things like the |
| 27300s | uh |
| 27301s | removal with the star power |
| 27306s | dr6 is so tempting because you know |
| 27308s | you've got quite a bit more steel to |
| 27310s | come but |
| 27311s | it is it's a long way off actually I |
| 27314s | think you just do it but you've got to |
| 27316s | think about it |
| 27317s | oh Jedi does only have 10 cards in deck |
| 27319s | I guess you've got to look at that for a |
| 27321s | moment I don't think it matters but |
| 27323s | you've got about these consider can you |
| 27324s | get there and just meal them out |
| 27330s | yeah it's also one of those things where |
| 27332s | yes it is tempting to maybe just remove |
| 27334s | those but as dread I did just draw a |
| 27337s | bunch of cards if you're going for that |
| 27339s | option and not clearing and you're |
| 27341s | leaving dread eye with all of those |
| 27343s | cards in hand just you know give it at |
| 27346s | least a little bit of thought is there |
| 27347s | potential for a punish if he goes that |
| 27350s | route right |
| 27352s | well we're gonna see if they can get the |
| 27354s | fatigue damage done there's no you're |
| 27356s | not trying to remove anything in |
| 27357s | particular you're just literally trying |
| 27358s | to say I'm going to outlast you here |
| 27360s | yeah what and again with that uh Dark |
| 27364s | Khan being the only Undead that's died |
| 27366s | and the three animators sitting in hand |
| 27367s | waiting there is potential for nagon to |
| 27371s | just heal some of that back up anyways |
| 27373s | after some of this damage is taken so it |
| 27375s | doesn't seem like the worst option at |
| 27377s | all |
| 27378s | I can't keep getting away with this |
| 27381s | these cracking beans though they've been |
| 27383s | dealing so much damage they're putting |
| 27385s | in work in these lists yeah we saw it |
| 27388s | earlier where Jedi caught out pocket |
| 27389s | train where pocket trainers thought |
| 27391s | calculated the maximum reasonable damage |
| 27393s | and then just took miles more than that |
| 27397s | um |
| 27415s | it's |
| 27418s | yeah putting maximum attack on the board |
| 27420s | I think this makes sense right well |
| 27422s | there's no taunts in the way yeah |
| 27426s | and even if there is again that star |
| 27429s | power in hand |
| 27431s | does |
| 27432s | do a lot against a single large minion |
| 27435s | as long as the if if it's flash Behemoth |
| 27438s | let's say as long as the death rattle |
| 27439s | doesn't end up pulling another taunt |
| 27441s | minion |
| 27443s | that star power looking pretty nice to |
| 27445s | be able to just clear up and and lead |
| 27449s | the way for Jedi's minions and that boat |
| 27452s | to just clean up and end the game yeah |
| 27454s | there's a lot going on here right 15 |
| 27456s | Health four jungle three chunky minions |
| 27461s | removal of all kinds |
| 27464s | yeah direct damage in hand as well |
| 27467s | negan's got to stop all of this the best |
| 27470s | he can and |
| 27472s | this is um |
| 27473s | the sign of a good player from dreadi |
| 27475s | like all these players look easy when |
| 27476s | you see them played by somebody else but |
| 27478s | here's managed to just make so many |
| 27481s | threats from so many sources here |
| 27484s | absolutely and it's also really tough |
| 27487s | for Negan as well because there's just |
| 27490s | this this I feel like is one of the |
| 27492s | downsides to this Warlock deck where oh |
| 27495s | yeah sometimes you actually can get |
| 27498s | these huge boards you get these stats |
| 27500s | even able to get the the Slime and |
| 27503s | shallow grave down but just when you get |
| 27506s | to this point where you can't answer |
| 27508s | everything there's a million damage here |
| 27511s | right this is just lethal I think yeah |
| 27519s | before |
| 27526s | has he miscounted something here I'm |
| 27528s | wondering |
| 27529s | he did it very fast and then stopped |
| 27532s | yeah |
| 27534s | I think we're Mana off do you think the |
| 27537s | Arcane shot did four with the spell |
| 27538s | damage |
| 27539s | or did he think he had 10 Mana |
| 27542s | to play both spell damage I'm not sure |
| 27544s | what's happening here |
| 27545s | yeah I mean he could go for both of the |
| 27547s | spell damage and go for the Ricochet |
| 27549s | guarantee |
| 27551s | yeah it's not guaranteed for lethal it |
| 27554s | is the chance for lethal yeah one made a |
| 27558s | short to be able to squeeze in the hero |
| 27559s | power too yeah I think there's no kind |
| 27561s | yeah |
| 27562s | he's got a hit it seems like I can't |
| 27565s | tell by his reaction no it hit all |
| 27567s | minions |
| 27568s | it hit the minions Neil didn't hit face |
| 27572s | try again |
| 27575s | oh my |
| 27579s | oh no he went for it though I I respect |
| 27582s | it I respect the just going for it yes |
| 27584s | if you hit it it's done it's instant 75 |
| 27588s | and then more on top because he's not |
| 27590s | lost yet |
| 27592s | yeah |
| 27593s | but something happened at the start of |
| 27595s | his turn yeah |
| 27598s | I think he'd calculated then that the |
| 27600s | Ricochet was Lethal and forgot there |
| 27602s | might be three minions there and then |
| 27603s | realized that maybe he's not lethal |
| 27604s | anymore |
| 27608s | okay what how does Megan answer this now |
| 27611s | though uh yeah |
| 27615s | I mean at this point a hero power and |
| 27618s | just two damage off of pretty much |
| 27622s | anything at this point is it's gonna be |
| 27624s | lethal he knows I mean he'll know the |
| 27626s | last two cars the deck unfortunately we |
| 27628s | don't know that but he'll know what two |
| 27629s | cards are there's no he knows there's no |
| 27630s | damage in hand because it would have |
| 27632s | been played last turn |
| 27634s | so yeah deal with the board and |
| 27637s | you know those last two cards maybe |
| 27639s | you've got a 50 50 maybe you know you've |
| 27640s | run them out of stuff |
| 27650s | I don't think there's any damage or |
| 27652s | direct damage I should say I don't think |
| 27654s | there's any direct damage left in |
| 27655s | treadise okay |
| 27657s | this is a star power my goodness |
| 27661s | yeah |
| 27663s | pretty fantastic |
| 27666s | 36 points of damage for five little Mana |
| 27681s | okay |
| 27683s | any six sixes for massive healing |
| 27693s | [Music] |
| 27696s | don't press the button |
| 27698s | not enough still is it |
| 27702s | well no |
| 27709s | uh I mean |
| 27712s | they're I guess if Negan goes for the |
| 27716s | reanimator |
| 27717s | and Forge of Wills |
| 27719s | sure we'll heal up to eight |
| 27724s | and then the forge of whales can create |
| 27727s | a rusher that does something yeah |
| 27730s | brushes there's still things on the |
| 27732s | board without hero power right yeah so |
| 27734s | yeah |
| 27738s | just gonna have to be the a new oh |
| 27742s | yeah unfortunately this doesn't actually |
| 27744s | create a copy of the minion itself right |
| 27747s | this is just what you need separate yeah |
| 27750s | a separate men in here but it's just |
| 27752s | gonna be |
| 27753s | uh pretty close these imps do have |
| 27756s | taunts but that's star power in hand or |
| 27760s | the links are enough to just clear those |
| 27763s | up pretty easily without really even |
| 27765s | trying |
| 27766s | yep two zero bang bang bang down to one |
| 27770s | deck already |
| 27771s | welcome to Dawn everybody |
| 27774s | yeah I I don't know how I manage this uh |
| 27778s | I have dodged casting a single Shaman |
| 27781s | game all day and all of the series have |
| 27783s | been incredibly fast uh three of us so |
| 27786s | far we're only a 2-0 for this one but |
| 27789s | okay 2-0 in dread eyes favor has just |
| 27793s | his mage deck correct just the mage deck |
| 27796s | correct yeah |
| 27799s | um which will slow things down a bit |
| 27801s | most likely he's got to play into the |
| 27803s | Druid which is not a good matchup for |
| 27806s | the majors I understand it I think the |
| 27807s | Druid just makes that massive board and |
| 27809s | the major can sort of not interfere with |
| 27811s | it enough and then you just die to it |
| 27814s | um the Rogue where the Mage is favored I |
| 27816s | think personally and then the Warlock |
| 27819s | where I think the Mages is pretty strong |
| 27821s | be favored if played by a strong player |
| 27824s | um certainly not favorite if I play it |
| 27825s | but hey warlock's fine right |
| 27829s | um well we did see it lose there at |
| 27831s | least so you know yeah it can lose it |
| 27834s | can lose uh not to me |
| 27839s | you're not gonna convince me that the |
| 27841s | Warlock deck doesn't draw the nuts every |
| 27842s | time even though it just didn't and we |
| 27844s | saw the evidence on screen I'm going to |
| 27846s | blank that out we |
| 27848s | okay |
| 27851s | it is Mage and as you mentioned up |
| 27854s | against all three of these other decks |
| 27855s | all right I want to ask you do you think |
| 27858s | this is going to end in a 3-0 or are we |
| 27861s | at least gonna see a three one |
| 27863s | three one he'll cue the Druid to get one |
| 27865s | on the board that's what I would do |
| 27867s | three one all right |
| 27868s | all right |
| 27869s | I like it you know |
| 27872s | uh mirror with the Mages as well right |
| 27875s | uh no excuse me no no no no no no it's |
| 27878s | banned just a warlock on the road so so |
| 27881s | yeah conventional wisdom has always been |
| 27883s | uq your best deck here you should be the |
| 27887s | Druid if he does which he's done |
| 27890s | um just to sort of put pressure on your |
| 27891s | opponent on the scoreboard what I have |
| 27894s | seen the very best players the fury |
| 27896s | Hunters the pocket trains do in these |
| 27898s | tournaments in this spot |
| 27899s | is Q their worst match up first |
| 27903s | um not so much in a knockout stage but |
| 27905s | especially if there's more to come |
| 27906s | tomorrow like the end of a master's tour |
| 27908s | so they can go to bed a little bit |
| 27909s | different here because you've got to |
| 27910s | play all three anyway but if they're |
| 27911s | going to lose three nil they're going to |
| 27913s | lose their hard matchup they just want |
| 27914s | to find out go to bed and play day two |
| 27916s | [Music] |
| 27917s | different courses but yeah |
| 27920s | there's also the thinking too if they |
| 27921s | bring in the worst uh the worst matchup |
| 27924s | that they have and they win |
| 27926s | that could potentially just lead into |
| 27928s | them building momentum and their |
| 27929s | matchups get better from there as well |
| 27931s | so with Conquest it definitely is really |
| 27933s | interesting to see how these players |
| 27935s | kind of line up and especially once it |
| 27937s | gets to kind of that match point |
| 27940s | and in the series right well are they |
| 27943s | going to are they not going to but as |
| 27946s | you said the Druid here coming in and I |
| 27950s | like the looks of the start of this so |
| 27952s | far I'm going to be able to start |
| 27954s | pushing a little damage build up a |
| 27956s | little bit of Trance on the board has |
| 27958s | the seedsman now in hand to be able to |
| 27961s | start ramping towards that drum circle |
| 27963s | there there's some things in hand here |
| 27965s | for nagan that can start moving him in a |
| 27968s | good direction yeah gonna have to though |
| 27970s | no way of double circling yet obviously |
| 27972s | that will come about pretty soon it |
| 27974s | usually does |
| 27975s | no card draw to speak of |
| 27978s | um if you don't count the seedsman which |
| 27980s | depends how you see that I guess |
| 27983s | uh which would Apple pickup is pretty |
| 27986s | good here as well |
| 27988s | right could just play which would Apple |
| 27990s | maybe one of those trains plus the |
| 27992s | forest blossoms and go as wide as you |
| 27994s | can on board |
| 27996s | just start applying pressure as much as |
| 27998s | possible for straight eye to have the |
| 28000s | answers |
| 28002s | yeah just do this |
| 28005s | today's ready with the cold case I think |
| 28008s | yeah |
| 28010s | oh sorry the clear my bad yep in the |
| 28012s | Cold Case next turn |
| 28013s | yeah |
| 28017s | my brain had already cleared the board |
| 28020s | yeah that potential could be as well why |
| 28023s | we saw Negan actually go for just both |
| 28025s | of the trends from the Witchwood Apple |
| 28027s | instead of also committing that Forest |
| 28029s | blossoms for in Azure body |
| 28035s | oh the keyboard or |
| 28040s | [Music] |
| 28043s | yeah that's that's keyboard for you |
| 28045s | right even when it looks like it's not |
| 28046s | keyboard it's always keyboard it's |
| 28048s | always keyboard like you look at it you |
| 28051s | go oh my this is awkward and the answer |
| 28053s | is make it not awkward then noob |
| 28057s | yeah the answer is well we'll embrace |
| 28059s | the awkward and just take it anyways |
| 28061s | because yeah it turns out extra bodies |
| 28064s | on board are very good especially in a |
| 28066s | matchup like this where the Giroud wants |
| 28068s | to be getting on the board |
| 28073s | an objection pickup as well pretty nice |
| 28077s | here in this matchup |
| 28079s | interesting choice here yeah |
| 28081s | obviously keeping The Druids minions off |
| 28083s | the board with drum cell killing the |
| 28085s | deck makes sense but also the damage you |
| 28086s | know the pressure is I think he could |
| 28088s | consider he's quite a long way ahead on |
| 28089s | board |
| 28090s | yeah this makes sense |
| 28096s | hmm |
| 28097s | the summer flower child pickup is pretty |
| 28100s | interesting could just go for it next |
| 28102s | turn looks like he's going to drop Plus |
| 28104s | discounts pretty good but okay gonna go |
| 28107s | for the Embrace of nature instead here |
| 28112s | okay he's good to go |
| 28114s | that's all right |
| 28118s | you love a double choose one effect drum |
| 28122s | circle |
| 28124s | yeah exactly and what I'm trying to do |
| 28126s | whilst watching and casting these |
| 28127s | players is look for spots where they |
| 28130s | don't just do the obvious play with this |
| 28131s | deck like uh get a drum circle there's a |
| 28134s | situation earlier where player delayed |
| 28135s | it a turn to try and get |
| 28137s | extra Buffs down on it and that sort of |
| 28139s | thing until I try and get the um the |
| 28141s | solar eclipse on it |
| 28143s | um but I'm looking for spots where I |
| 28145s | would just wear play green card is not |
| 28147s | the right play |
| 28149s | yeah absolutely uh it's also pretty |
| 28152s | interesting because the uh |
| 28155s | the Embrace of nature is the way that |
| 28158s | these decks are built it's a pretty |
| 28160s | specific draw right so it's not just oh |
| 28164s | I'm gonna choose or play this and the |
| 28167s | choose one card I get is gonna be one of |
| 28170s | five or six or seven like we might have |
| 28173s | seen in other variants it is very very |
| 28175s | specific the way that these decks are |
| 28177s | built and you know looking at these deck |
| 28180s | lists it is uh drum circle and what |
| 28185s | usually |
| 28187s | uh |
| 28189s | I'm drawing a blank on the name of the |
| 28190s | card but I I'm your worst I'm the worst |
| 28192s | for that don't don't do that yeah |
| 28196s | what does the card do and I'll tell you |
| 28197s | what it should be called |
| 28199s | well I don't I don't even think that |
| 28203s | eventually |
| 28205s | right looking at it I'm sorry I always |
| 28207s | blank on card names I'm the worst to |
| 28209s | bail you out |
| 28210s | foreign |
| 28211s | I'll find it |
| 28213s | while we look at this impressive |
| 28215s | treatment board and how Jedi is going to |
| 28218s | maneuver this turn |
| 28220s | [Music] |
| 28224s | hmm |
| 28232s | yeah how do you sort this out |
| 28239s | I mean you're not clearing this ever but |
| 28241s | can you clear enough without losing |
| 28242s | enough resources you're still in the |
| 28243s | game |
| 28246s | it's lifebinders gift by the way there |
| 28248s | lorenza got it okay yeah but I do not |
| 28252s | see lifebinders gift at all in Megan's |
| 28255s | list so yeah actually going for that uh |
| 28259s | Embrace of nature was it looks like a |
| 28261s | guarantee to draw the jump Circle |
| 28265s | kind of like that in some ways obviously |
| 28268s | it's very hard to do |
| 28269s | to know having not played it of course |
| 28272s | it's a really important card you're |
| 28274s | missing out of your deck |
| 28288s | so much |
| 28296s | all right |
| 28299s | okay so cultivation let's go yeah |
| 28305s | nicely done yeah |
| 28308s | all right |
| 28310s | it's on the board it's on the board |
| 28312s | we're in the yeah |
| 28315s | well done broke in the curse |
| 28319s | the better now that's right that's right |
| 28325s | is that what happens now there were a |
| 28328s | lot of reverse sweeps I think early in |
| 28330s | those group stages but I don't know it's |
| 28333s | kind of interesting I do feel like some |
| 28335s | of these players lineups and even in |
| 28338s | some of the discussions I've seen there |
| 28340s | definitely are lineups and strategies |
| 28342s | that are trying to basically soft target |
| 28344s | Mage so I I don't think it's impossible |
| 28347s | for it to be a reverse sweep here |
| 28350s | um but I do think uh that as you said |
| 28354s | earlier that the Druid was definitely |
| 28356s | the best shot to get there are the other |
| 28358s | ones going to be quite as good I don't |
| 28360s | know |
| 28362s | yeah I feel not I'm sure not they might |
| 28365s | play well like the Rogue can just win on |
| 28367s | like turn four if there's no |
| 28369s | reverberations the game just ends |
| 28371s | um and look like it always wins but I |
| 28374s | think they're both tough matchups here |
| 28376s | for Negan I think that Jedi won't be too |
| 28378s | concerned yet he loses the next one then |
| 28380s | sure you get concerned because two 60 |
| 28382s | shots will go to one 60 shot ah yeah you |
| 28385s | start to feel a lot less confident but |
| 28387s | he'll be comfortable right now |
| 28389s | right yeah and uh this is really |
| 28391s | interesting here we're gonna see the |
| 28393s | Warlock getting played again for Negan |
| 28397s | here uh versus this Mage for dredi as |
| 28400s | we've mentioned see if Negan can sneak |
| 28404s | in a win here with the Warlock and I did |
| 28406s | see a slime I did see slime looks like |
| 28409s | he's got the hang of it now |
| 28411s | that's right and the coin as well |
| 28413s | and the symphony and yeah |
| 28416s | yeah but yeah at this point no one dead |
| 28420s | so looking for ways in Jedi's hand to |
| 28422s | remove 11 11 so that's kind of how I |
| 28424s | plan this out which is a little bit too |
| 28426s | negative but at my level planning this |
| 28428s | out is how do I kill the 11 11s means I |
| 28431s | get on board enough it means I get my |
| 28433s | Reverb in my hand and it usually means |
| 28435s | I've got extra damage left over that I |
| 28437s | don't need because it's the worst case |
| 28439s | scenario facing in early 11 11. usually |
| 28441s | you don't necessarily needle yeah |
| 28443s | oh and there is the Reverb being picked |
| 28446s | up for Jedi both of these classes the |
| 28448s | the reverberations is a dual class card |
| 28451s | and it is a mage warlock card so both of |
| 28453s | these players are running the |
| 28454s | reverberations in their lists here but |
| 28457s | as of right now there still is nothing |
| 28460s | here for the slime |
| 28463s | so far there's no 11 11 that's uh |
| 28467s | potentially going to be coming out which |
| 28469s | does make things really awkward because |
| 28470s | if you can't find those pieces to be |
| 28474s | able to really kind of cheat out those |
| 28475s | big minions to be able to kind of lean |
| 28478s | into that mechanic of your deck it |
| 28481s | starts to feel like you have to either |
| 28482s | let the deck kind of fall apart or you |
| 28486s | have to find a different game plan and |
| 28488s | maybe Symphony of sins is that other |
| 28490s | game plan at the moment but I don't it |
| 28493s | feels like a bit of a stretch 7-7 Rush |
| 28496s | man to buy yourself a bit of time |
| 28498s | seems okay yeah if things go wrong yeah |
| 28500s | you might be right coin symphony is |
| 28502s | pretty good too |
| 28506s | oh yeah |
| 28508s | yeah just just do that just do what they |
| 28511s | always do yeah yeah who needs to worry |
| 28514s | about that when you can just draw the |
| 28516s | Thaddeus on on the turn you need it |
| 28519s | absolutely fantastic there |
| 28521s | but but yeah exactly |
| 28524s | tread eye has answers |
| 28527s | there's reverberations is that something |
| 28530s | that dread I wants to look at here or is |
| 28534s | it more of just an approach of trying to |
| 28536s | clear an answer and save that |
| 28538s | reverberations for something later |
| 28541s | yeah I think you just do it but he'll |
| 28544s | know better |
| 28546s | um this is also I mean I haven't got the |
| 28548s | bone Spike and other things but this is |
| 28549s | why you put every point of damage you |
| 28551s | can get on the board these little one |
| 28552s | twos and one threes were played um the |
| 28556s | expense of some other cards some draw or |
| 28558s | whatever |
| 28559s | um didn't infinitize for instance |
| 28561s | like getting these little things on the |
| 28564s | board is so huge if he hadn't had that |
| 28566s | bone Spike he wouldn't be able to put |
| 28567s | all three one twos in for three damage |
| 28569s | for instance and then Reverb and ping |
| 28571s | you know they matter a lot these These |
| 28575s | Little Things |
| 28577s | they do they look very unassuming but |
| 28580s | they really can add up and work really |
| 28582s | well with the things that the major is |
| 28584s | already trying to do right uh |
| 28592s | yeah just just if your opponent takes a |
| 28594s | turn to defile this board say they they |
| 28596s | say they can't which they can as it |
| 28598s | happens |
| 28599s | what's the rest of their turn as a |
| 28601s | warlock for three money if they defile |
| 28603s | this |
| 28604s | tap pass like |
| 28606s | it's just not a good Hearthstone turn |
| 28608s | for them so there's some reverberations |
| 28612s | the the reverber can we go into like a a |
| 28616s | little bit of uh |
| 28618s | Dream Within A Dream type uh Theory here |
| 28621s | is this reverberations on the |
| 28623s | reverberated |
| 28624s | and I'm gonna make that a word |
| 28627s | that is okay perfect I like it good spot |
| 28630s | yeah absolutely |
| 28633s | again as you mentioned now okay there's |
| 28635s | two Mana maybe sargeras comes down this |
| 28638s | Forge of Wills is still active so can |
| 28641s | definitely uh create a maybe an 11 11 |
| 28644s | that has Rush here but then I guess that |
| 28649s | kind of means maybe using the Mortal |
| 28650s | coil to clean up as well |
| 28654s | or take your chance on this Symphony |
| 28656s | because you think that if you hit you |
| 28657s | win |
| 28659s | or if you miss you lose anyway or |
| 28660s | whatever with the bottle coil it was |
| 28662s | tough one it was a tough one |
| 28665s | yeah they feel like a lot of moving |
| 28667s | parts that turn |
| 28670s | like with all my memes aside this is the |
| 28672s | sort of turn that will be the difference |
| 28674s | between somebody playing warlock on |
| 28676s | ladder and somebody playing at this |
| 28677s | level like he's put a lot of |
| 28680s | like you say moving Parts into this he's |
| 28682s | had to process all of those and do what |
| 28683s | he can and he's end up with a nice board |
| 28684s | and a clear board out of it |
| 28688s | it's a really interesting |
| 28691s | uh sequence of events for that turn as |
| 28692s | well right because there were a lot of |
| 28694s | choices use that Forge of Wills to make |
| 28697s | an 11-11 rusher and kind of clean stuff |
| 28701s | up in you know in a different way with |
| 28704s | like the Mortal coil and kind of clean |
| 28705s | up after that or going for a play like |
| 28709s | what Negan did which was yeah I'm just |
| 28712s | gonna use this Thaddeus that I have |
| 28714s | copied for this turn alone and then I'm |
| 28718s | going to be able to create a full board |
| 28720s | that has to be answered at the end of |
| 28722s | the turn so we finally after like ages |
| 28726s | found the counter to reverberations and |
| 28728s | it's reverberations |
| 28730s | that's how you stop it you just do it |
| 28733s | back straight at him |
| 28735s | that's right |
| 28739s | oh |
| 28740s | okay this is this is also very |
| 28742s | interesting here |
| 28743s | the reanimator can definitely just bring |
| 28748s | back Thaddeus but okay |
| 28752s | is that the line here or |
| 28755s | does Negan need to try to do something |
| 28757s | because he's sitting at 17 Health now |
| 28760s | it's going into turn seven |
| 28762s | uh which could be the elemental |
| 28764s | inspiration but also there has been some |
| 28767s | spell schools played at this point |
| 28769s | looking at potentially facing down some |
| 28772s | damage and 17 doesn't necessarily feel |
| 28777s | like you're safe against mage |
| 28779s | so the I don't like about this Warlock |
| 28781s | deck is a you know to play with not |
| 28782s | against because I'm moan about playing |
| 28784s | against it enough he's just on nine |
| 28785s | cards and none of them do anything it's |
| 28788s | like |
| 28789s | feel feel hard done buying this |
| 28791s | situation making space on his own board |
| 28792s | and in his hand here this is cool |
| 28795s | yeah and healing up a little bit as well |
| 28797s | uh definitely I'm not gonna count out |
| 28800s | any of that healing at this point |
| 28803s | he timed out there though yeah didn't |
| 28806s | get to attack and clear off that minion |
| 28808s | I'm not sure if that's |
| 28810s | going to make a difference though at |
| 28813s | this point but maybe it will |
| 28816s | it's possible |
| 28823s | I mean it's always yeah it's always more |
| 28826s | than you more problem than you imagine |
| 28828s | if you leave up a minion that shouldn't |
| 28830s | be there |
| 28834s | foreign |
| 28840s | maybe that doesn't matter but you don't |
| 28841s | want to take too many extra threes over |
| 28843s | the course of a game like 10 extra |
| 28844s | threes and you're dead |
| 28849s | like this is the second or third |
| 28851s | discovered uh solar eclipse that we've |
| 28854s | seen on stream today |
| 28856s | that just really kind of put in a lot of |
| 28859s | work and doing uh solar eclipse into |
| 28862s | that star power to clear up a very large |
| 28865s | board means that dreadi can save things |
| 28868s | like the solid Alibis for future turns |
| 28871s | yeah let's not give Mage solar eclipse |
| 28873s | anytime soon that would be that would be |
| 28875s | nice thanks yes |
| 28879s | right off the top |
| 28887s | and the negatives use the most basic car |
| 28889s | back by the way I respect that |
| 28894s | well that's the strategy right you gotta |
| 28896s | you gotta use the basic card back so |
| 28897s | that nobody knows your skill level |
| 28899s | exactly |
| 28901s | right obviously in the 16 player |
| 28903s | tournament where they spent months and |
| 28905s | months qualifying for and had to be at |
| 28907s | the very top |
| 28908s | they're they're gonna be fooled by that |
| 28910s | you tricked you oh I'm actually quite |
| 28912s | good |
| 28914s | who'da thought |
| 28916s | who'd have thought the 16 best players |
| 28918s | over the regions over a three-month |
| 28920s | period were reasonable at Hearthstone |
| 28924s | well to red eye has done a really |
| 28927s | impressive job this game of being able |
| 28930s | to find board clears and answer these |
| 28932s | repetitive big bodies that Negan has |
| 28935s | been putting out absolutely |
| 28941s | has to get rid of one of these |
| 28943s | It's gotta be the armor vendor just get |
| 28945s | rid of the armor vendor |
| 28948s | seems like it unless he feels like he |
| 28950s | needs the fall |
| 28954s | what's he doing with the rest of his |
| 28956s | turn |
| 28957s | it's just not a good enough card is it |
| 28959s | unless he's really got four Mana he |
| 28960s | wants to spend on something |
| 28964s | yeah that break point of Mana seems |
| 28969s | pretty lacking right now maybe it's the |
| 28972s | movement of sloth maybe he just gets rid |
| 28974s | of the sloth yeah okay yeah |
| 28978s | it's the Thaddeus |
| 28981s | all right |
| 28985s | see tread eyes shaking his head there |
| 28988s | just nodding yeah |
| 28992s | doesn't matter it doesn't matter if you |
| 28994s | put stats on the board if you have big |
| 28995s | bodies Jedi |
| 28998s | kept the boards at Bay long enough to be |
| 29001s | able to do exactly what this major wants |
| 29004s | to do and that is build up some damage |
| 29007s | after playing multiple spell schools and |
| 29009s | just get there with over-the-top damage |
| 29011s | from hand |
| 29012s | 14 damage moon beam of all things yeah |
| 29016s | he can't believe he sees the funny side |
| 29018s | in fact he was laughing at one of his |
| 29020s | losses earlier as well he just sees the |
| 29021s | funny side of hearthstone things |
| 29023s | um |
| 29024s | sort of known for that these days I |
| 29025s | think but yeah winning with a Moonbeam |
| 29027s | looked pretty convincing in that Victory |
| 29030s | as well over all over the match and |
| 29032s | another quick one for you Don |
| 29034s | yeah absolutely well I don't know I feel |
| 29036s | like in that game the uh kind of stars |
| 29039s | of where the MVPs of the cards were |
| 29042s | those discovered nature spells of all |
| 29044s | things uh there was absolutely multiple |
| 29047s | nature spells and even in some other |
| 29049s | series earlier I think a lot of the |
| 29052s | nature spells were absolutely putting in |
| 29054s | a lot of work and helping the Mage kind |
| 29056s | of stall that extra turn that they may |
| 29059s | have needed or in some cases we saw like |
| 29062s | otters come out on the board earlier to |
| 29063s | kind of create an awkward wide board |
| 29066s | that was you know maybe not the most |
| 29069s | threatening but it was creating some |
| 29070s | Tempo on board it was creating a threat |
| 29073s | of some extra damage along with the |
| 29074s | potential damage so I don't know that |
| 29077s | was that was kind of cool to see all |
| 29078s | those nature spells kind of come |
| 29080s | together |
| 29081s | yep it says if you give a class |
| 29083s | something you can't normally do |
| 29085s | then it fills in the gaps of things it |
| 29087s | can't normally do and that's what you're |
| 29089s | describing there I feel so you know |
| 29091s | credit to spell schools actually working |
| 29093s | as intended I think that |
| 29094s | [Music] |
| 29096s | but I don't know about you Lorinda but I |
| 29098s | am very excited to see dreadi winning |
| 29101s | that series moving into our day number |
| 29104s | two he will join the rest of the players |
| 29106s | that have already made it to tomorrow |
| 29108s | and we still have one more player to |
| 29112s | find out who will be joining our seven |
| 29114s | players already qualified for tomorrow |
| 29117s | are you ready to find out who that is I |
| 29119s | am ready Dawn you're gonna throw us out |
| 29121s | so we can find out who it is that is yep |
| 29123s | but before we do that yeah we have to |
| 29126s | take a quick break so we can set that |
| 29128s | match up before you all find out who |
| 29130s | ends up getting there so don't go |
| 29132s | anywhere we'll be right back for our |
| 29133s | summer championship |
| 29134s | [Music] |
| 29152s | [Music] |
| 29173s | [Music] |
| 29194s | [Music] |
| 29209s | foreign |
| 29211s | [Music] |
| 29245s | [Music] |
| 29250s | [Music] |
| 29261s | [Music] |
| 29266s | [Music] |
| 29272s | [Music] |
| 29275s | foreign |
| 29297s | [Music] |
| 29302s | [Music] |
| 29313s | [Music] |
| 29319s | [Music] |
| 29330s | [Music] |
| 29339s | thank you |
| 29352s | foreign |
| 29355s | [Music] |
| 29377s | [Music] |
| 29407s | [Music] |
| 29439s | thank you |
| 29448s | [Music] |
| 29457s | [Music] |
| 29463s | thank you |
| 29464s | [Music] |
| 29489s | [Music] |
| 29489s | [Applause] |
| 29490s | [Music] |
| 29499s | hello everybody and welcome back to the |
| 29501s | Hearthstone Masters Tour summer |
| 29502s | Championship my name is TJ I'm joined by |
| 29504s | Neil AKA |
| 29507s | Lorinda aka the Randy games on Twitter |
| 29510s | all in there I don't know how you doing |
| 29512s | bud |
| 29513s | nice to meet you |
| 29517s | funny you ask yeah |
| 29521s | yeah I don't know Neil I've just been |
| 29523s | hanging out casting but we got another |
| 29525s | uh decider match coming up next and I |
| 29529s | don't know about you but I'm dying to |
| 29530s | see how this one ends |
| 29532s | meet to TJ me too |
| 29535s | um let's see how it goes let's have a |
| 29536s | look at the players and the lineups and |
| 29538s | the brackets and all those good things |
| 29540s | and then we'll we'll get into this game |
| 29542s | TJ but there's Group B that we finished |
| 29544s | ages ago |
| 29547s | I just want to remind us that it's done |
| 29550s | we saw you and Casey move on from Group |
| 29553s | B |
| 29554s | uh close one between Casey and gamer rvg |
| 29557s | uh right there at the uh right there at |
| 29560s | the end so oh we saw pocket train and |
| 29563s | Dread I move on from Group C |
| 29565s | just saw Jedi right now actually |
| 29567s | literally right this second |
| 29571s | went ahead and got it done so now we're |
| 29574s | gonna move on to |
| 29576s | nope it's not Group D either |
| 29578s | we're just going through the groups that |
| 29580s | we're not doing Gabby Hemlock uh moving |
| 29583s | on and then last but not least |
| 29588s | there it |
| 29590s | isoku gonna be facing off each other for |
| 29592s | the last spot in the top eight |
| 29596s | yep and this is gonna be good TJ we've |
| 29599s | got more warlock action which we know is |
| 29601s | something that I absolutely adore and |
| 29604s | weak you honestly like the best player |
| 29607s | in the world on ladder over the last |
| 29609s | several months pocket train might have |
| 29610s | something to say about that but Wiki is |
| 29612s | just knocking out those ranked ones over |
| 29614s | and over again so |
| 29616s | I think I think he's got a good claim to |
| 29618s | it even though most people won't have |
| 29619s | heard of him much |
| 29623s | uh yeah well neither have we apparently |
| 29626s | because |
| 29628s | it's just a dark foreboding figure so I |
| 29631s | think the players wrote their own uh |
| 29632s | profile so he's saying here this is a |
| 29634s | joke this one is smiley face the middle |
| 29636s | one because he's only played in one |
| 29637s | tournament really in Esports and he came |
| 29639s | top 16 out of the 16 that played so this |
| 29642s | is this week you giving you something to |
| 29644s | to giggle about basically |
| 29647s | oh yeah |
| 29649s | it's got to be a blank space there where |
| 29651s | the picture should be |
| 29653s | but yep fitting his name in it at least |
| 29657s | Q |
| 29659s | going to highlight the nature Shaman |
| 29661s | from weq I feel like this one is um |
| 29664s | pretty standard from what we've seen uh |
| 29666s | with the double turn the tides it's more |
| 29668s | tempo |
| 29669s | oriented version |
| 29672s | um |
| 29672s | so I I will refuse to call it saddle |
| 29676s | Shaman or fuse shaman |
| 29680s | ego Shaman is this is this the one |
| 29682s | though |
| 29684s | soy sauce |
| 29688s | I'm trying to summon him |
| 29690s | just look like my mixed mistake there TJ |
| 29693s | I don't know what's going on |
| 29695s | wow |
| 29697s | if I was the one who built this nature |
| 29699s | Shaman you know I could show you |
| 29701s | incredible things you absolutely could |
| 29703s | TJ |
| 29704s | but you weren't so we need a subtle to |
| 29706s | show us those things |
| 29708s | um |
| 29709s | which I don't know where he is actually |
| 29713s | but he loves the fact that he made this |
| 29715s | deck |
| 29717s | and everybody copied it |
| 29719s | yeah |
| 29720s | all right tonsoku's up next tansoku |
| 29724s | means short-legged person in Japanese |
| 29727s | fun fact I knew that fact already |
| 29729s | because it was one of the first |
| 29730s | questions that we used to ask players |
| 29731s | back when they used to come to |
| 29732s | championships |
| 29737s | I remember this a few times actually I |
| 29740s | would say many times |
| 29742s | um I think it's four plus times now uh |
| 29745s | one of my favorite people on the planet |
| 29747s | not just Hearthstone players just people |
| 29748s | on the planet |
| 29751s | um and we're highlighting you signed his |
| 29753s | his phone because we've never heard this |
| 29755s | story before I think you should I did |
| 29756s | yeah |
| 29758s | never heard before stories |
| 29763s | I was a big fan of him he was a big fan |
| 29765s | of me |
| 29766s | I signed his phone I don't know if |
| 29767s | that's a fair trade he didn't sign my |
| 29769s | phone but I had a case of my phone |
| 29772s | I changed cases it wouldn't have been |
| 29774s | there anymore I signed his actual phone |
| 29776s | besides actual phone so he's still got |
| 29778s | that phone like he's still he's this big |
| 29781s | and he's texting like this |
| 29783s | like yeah phones people by like carrying |
| 29786s | it around |
| 29787s | yeah and if oh man you know if you saw |
| 29790s | that signature on that phone |
| 29792s | it'll leave you Breathless |
| 29796s | absolutely um you've told me about it |
| 29798s | many times but now my part of the intro |
| 29801s | is over and into the playing because DJ |
| 29805s | I love the players but you love the game |
| 29807s | so you bring this one in |
| 29812s | at the top |
| 29814s | that's not weak you |
| 29817s | guys behind these guys |
| 29821s | good guys it's been Jedi all along |
| 29827s | is the gun reveal he's been playing he's |
| 29829s | been playing twice what happens if they |
| 29832s | meet together in the final he's giving |
| 29834s | two dread eyes just how does that even |
| 29837s | work |
| 29840s | ah |
| 29842s | oh God |
| 29847s | only got one face to look at though here |
| 29850s | TJ we've only got the one |
| 29852s | [Music] |
| 29855s | well these are not particularly good a |
| 29858s | discounted polymorph jellyfish is |
| 29860s | interesting however |
| 29864s | um but where does it fit in oh this what |
| 29866s | am I talking about |
| 29867s | this is Naga Mage and watch a rainbow |
| 29869s | Mage all day this is not a mage |
| 29871s | of ashara not too shabby |
| 29875s | though |
| 29880s | Star Tower |
| 29882s | sure |
| 29884s | like a discount star power just be able |
| 29885s | to |
| 29887s | a bada bing bada boom turn four |
| 29889s | clear the board |
| 29892s | well |
| 29894s | you obviously understanding the urgency |
| 29896s | of this situation here because the Naga |
| 29898s | Mage if it gets on board it's gonna be |
| 29900s | difficult for the hunter to clear enough |
| 29901s | stuff |
| 29905s | [Music] |
| 29908s | but threatening to hit the for eight is |
| 29910s | obviously the perfect start you can't |
| 29912s | just go pinging these away it just gets |
| 29914s | Beyond you so I wonder if he plays the |
| 29915s | crush kill here to see what he hits |
| 29917s | yeah |
| 29919s | that's what I'm thinking |
| 29924s | you could go for a vast wisdom vast |
| 29926s | wisdom see would be fine you got two of |
| 29928s | them so you hit so if you find siren you |
| 29930s | know you still have cheap another cheap |
| 29932s | spell to be able to get going |
| 29935s | um |
| 29939s | or is he gonna he's gonna ping okay |
| 29944s | taking his time feels that you can |
| 29947s | contend with this |
| 29959s | that he's confident there's a lot of |
| 29962s | damage output out there |
| 29967s | this is real awkward for tonsoku to be |
| 29971s | quite Frank |
| 29973s | quite Frank is that like just somebody |
| 29976s | who is really quiet just watch his |
| 29978s | Hearthstone a lot |
| 29980s | yeah |
| 29981s | actually there was a quiet Frank who um |
| 29984s | any videos was a competitive personal |
| 29987s | player Frank in a box uh the player I |
| 29990s | see yeah I remember yeah remember Frank |
| 29992s | yeah |
| 29994s | good guy |
| 29997s | very quiet though |
| 29999s | that's why I quite Frank so you want to |
| 30001s | be quite Frank is that is what's going |
| 30003s | on |
| 30005s | ah it was a hypothetical if if I was |
| 30008s | quite Frank |
| 30010s | or to be quite Frank |
| 30012s | okay |
| 30015s | but to be loud Frank no that's different |
| 30017s | different story altogether don't want to |
| 30019s | be loud Frank |
| 30021s | IE I mean |
| 30023s | if you're gonna be frank you'd be quite |
| 30024s | Frank |
| 30026s | because loud Frank's got no friends |
| 30028s | because he's loud |
| 30030s | yeah |
| 30032s | exactly it's gonna ping again |
| 30036s | are you are you actually watching the |
| 30037s | Hearthstone damn it I should be doing |
| 30038s | the same thing |
| 30039s | [Music] |
| 30046s | but I mean you'll come back each time |
| 30048s | you leave |
| 30049s | yeah I'm done absolutely |
| 30052s | you can tell me when it's over though TJ |
| 30054s | if you want |
| 30061s | just chipping away |
| 30063s | still no siren |
| 30067s | and I mean the longer we go without |
| 30070s | tonsoku finding a siren the |
| 30073s | more Wiki's gonna have the chance to |
| 30075s | just go over the top |
| 30077s | of whatever's on the board with direct |
| 30079s | damage I mean Kraken being is is active |
| 30084s | um |
| 30085s | plus the additional spell damage from |
| 30088s | everything in the hand |
| 30090s | yeah okay so shooting star is |
| 30095s | something wish we would have had that |
| 30097s | earlier but hey it is what it is |
| 30101s | full ones are so annoying aren't they |
| 30103s | it's just so Mana efficient dealing with |
| 30105s | one of them is okay but constantly |
| 30107s | dealing with them is just annoying |
| 30112s | and stopping tan soccer from being able |
| 30114s | to do what he wants to do |
| 30122s | he starts Revenue what's happening here |
| 30123s | are you the same person |
| 30127s | even he hates that he's had to Ping |
| 30129s | every turn he's just weaving he's beat |
| 30131s | him with three cards |
| 30136s | [Music] |
| 30137s | well |
| 30140s | this has been my experience with this |
| 30141s | deck no you just did nothing at that |
| 30143s | died |
| 30146s | unless your pocket train or yeah |
| 30148s | whatever |
| 30154s | it's just a nightmare dressed like a |
| 30156s | Daydream TJ it just every time it looks |
| 30159s | great doesn't work |
| 30164s | deep |
| 30168s | okay he stuck a minion I repeat hey |
| 30175s | we can just draw a million cards now |
| 30179s | or basically win the Hearthstone |
| 30184s | it's got to be like siren off the top |
| 30186s | right now huh |
| 30188s | I think so yeah |
| 30200s | um that's not a Simon |
| 30207s | womp womp computer says no |
| 30212s | all right |
| 30214s | and any outs in the savara is a Gifts of |
| 30218s | ashara |
| 30220s | a vast wisdom |
| 30223s | and something else |
| 30229s | okay Reverb |
| 30231s | he is |
| 30238s | up with |
| 30241s | other cards I don't know |
| 30244s | [Music] |
| 30246s | I still need to play around hidden |
| 30248s | meaning so it really only has four Mana |
| 30250s | to work with still a hidden meeting up |
| 30251s | on the other side you can't afford to |
| 30253s | take an extra |
| 30256s | on average |
| 30257s | 2.2 damage is that what it is I don't |
| 30260s | know sounds about like can we just play |
| 30262s | the quest cool I think we might be |
| 30263s | desperate enough now but hansoka |
| 30265s | obviously trying to be needs to kill the |
| 30267s | the second one though so it needs to |
| 30268s | finish |
| 30271s | and then just hope for siren right |
| 30273s | that's it and hope that the pop-off is |
| 30276s | enough |
| 30277s | that's assuming this isn't enough and |
| 30280s | that's enough yeah each of these |
| 30281s | ricochets is two plus the six from the |
| 30284s | bow and |
| 30286s | that'll do it |
| 30288s | takes game number one in |
| 30291s | uh I won't say the easiest game of his |
| 30293s | life but townsoka just didn't have the |
| 30295s | hand to put up that much of a fight |
| 30298s | uh which is unfortunate because you see |
| 30300s | a lot especially in these uh Ice Age |
| 30302s | situations you want to see |
| 30305s | you want to see some tough football |
| 30307s | matches |
| 30309s | just occasionally I want to see somebody |
| 30312s | have the experience that I have with a |
| 30315s | deck and that was the occasional one |
| 30317s | that's us you know he's a very good |
| 30319s | player but it made me feel like I'm |
| 30321s | playing the deck the same as the good |
| 30323s | players where I go ping ping ping I'm |
| 30324s | dead okay with that |
| 30327s | so I want you what you took away from |
| 30330s | this game is well if if he does it it |
| 30333s | loses then it's okay if I do the same |
| 30335s | thing and lose yeah |
| 30337s | exactly okay |
| 30340s | but I don't want to see that all the |
| 30341s | time I agree with you high level player |
| 30342s | you don't you don't want that to happen |
| 30343s | to somebody really but it's nice just to |
| 30345s | see it occasionally just that little |
| 30346s | tiny bit of positive reinforcement |
| 30349s | because I'm known for being a positive |
| 30350s | person teach |
| 30352s | that's itself |
| 30355s | every time I watch your stream you're |
| 30358s | like was that correct that wasn't |
| 30360s | correct |
| 30362s | you win the game what do you mean was |
| 30363s | she this dream wasn't correct or what I |
| 30365s | said wasn't correct |
| 30366s | that's what you say every time you make |
| 30368s | a play was that correct that wasn't |
| 30370s | correct |
| 30371s | and then you win the game of hearthstone |
| 30372s | you're like I didn't play that game of |
| 30374s | hearthstone well and you lose the game |
| 30375s | of person you're like I definitely |
| 30377s | didn't play that game of hearthstone |
| 30378s | well and then saddles in your chat and |
| 30380s | he's saying Neil you really didn't play |
| 30382s | that horse game well yeah you think |
| 30384s | played it badly Neil but let me tell you |
| 30387s | it was much worse than that |
| 30389s | yeah you're like oh man I probably had |
| 30391s | three misplays well |
| 30393s | actually |
| 30394s | it's my solid voice actually |
| 30398s | you made seven and a half plays |
| 30400s | incorrectly yeah but I can make the bad |
| 30402s | guys good for a weekend so just have me |
| 30404s | on for two days and we'll be fine teach |
| 30407s | that's what he would say |
| 30409s | Fair Point that seems like exactly |
| 30411s | something that Sarah would say |
| 30413s | uh but we Q has got the hunter out of |
| 30415s | the way |
| 30416s | and left in the lineup is the Mage and |
| 30419s | the druid |
| 30421s | I feel like druid's been I don't want to |
| 30423s | say it's cleaning up today Drew's just |
| 30425s | being Druid Druid is one of those decks |
| 30427s | where you know you're playing against a |
| 30430s | deck that can't clear your board |
| 30432s | you win you playing again you're playing |
| 30434s | against the deck |
| 30435s | that uh make that puts Minions on the |
| 30439s | board between turns one and five you die |
| 30443s | um |
| 30446s | this 200 would have been |
| 30447s | surprising if nobody bought Drew I feel |
| 30449s | like the right amount of Druid is here |
| 30451s | it's |
| 30452s | played it's also supposed to be sort of |
| 30455s | like you're saying it's Druid some |
| 30456s | people bring it it's fine but a lot of |
| 30459s | Druid I don't think it's quite powerful |
| 30460s | enough from asking around especially |
| 30462s | pocket train but yeah yeah it can do |
| 30465s | very powerful things |
| 30467s | but it's limited on how quickly it can |
| 30471s | do those things |
| 30473s | um and that's the real issue and it's |
| 30475s | got limited removal so it kind of gets |
| 30477s | run over and hear the game |
| 30480s | um |
| 30482s | but you know let's go let's go with this |
| 30484s | anyway |
| 30487s | you see unless there is a druid on the |
| 30490s | board no just say we're talking about |
| 30491s | Druid as if it's not turned two in a |
| 30493s | rogue versus Mage game because that's |
| 30495s | how we cast it's great yeah no casting |
| 30498s | hypotheticals |
| 30500s | is doing well |
| 30503s | personally yeah |
| 30505s | I |
| 30506s | I never miss my chance to finish a point |
| 30508s | I don't care what's happening |
| 30510s | that's why I don't cast World |
| 30512s | Championship Finals |
| 30514s | everybody casts World Championship |
| 30515s | Finals these days because the winning |
| 30518s | moment |
| 30520s | but I had a train of thought that was |
| 30522s | from two turns prior |
| 30524s | uh-huh and I gotta finish it |
| 30527s | just like this moment right now |
| 30531s | we still have not acknowledged it |
| 30534s | however he's playing it back in shock |
| 30538s | I was making a point and then you gave a |
| 30541s | rebuttal and I'm not gonna let that sit |
| 30543s | on the table so okay |
| 30548s | well just just continue then |
| 30551s | no that's it |
| 30553s | you sure |
| 30554s | I'm sure |
| 30556s | so we can go we can we can cast this |
| 30558s | game |
| 30559s | I don't know if I want to anymore you've |
| 30561s | taught me how I was enjoying casting |
| 30562s | this game but now |
| 30565s | I should do it |
| 30567s | you give it you give rush to his biggest |
| 30569s | thing |
| 30570s | yeah reverbed off the face of the planet |
| 30572s | weak you drew the cold case with the |
| 30575s | keyboard online |
| 30578s | tonsoku might be dunzo |
| 30582s | yeah you make those big minions |
| 30586s | tansoka and if it goes wrong |
| 30590s | you've got to tell us where it's over if |
| 30591s | the high was worth the pain because that |
| 30593s | was a lot of damage |
| 30600s | couldn't have said it better myself |
| 30602s | I don't think you could |
| 30609s | it's like where are all these minions |
| 30611s | coming from |
| 30613s | it's Amaze they don't play minions |
| 30618s | not to laugh this is yeah the the weapon |
| 30620s | in maze just feels incredibly unfair |
| 30622s | when it goes to into stuff two three |
| 30625s | four |
| 30627s | this has been the ideal curve |
| 30632s | if that Reverb if the uh the Drone or |
| 30635s | the spark the spark |
| 30638s | bot |
| 30640s | was anything other than Rush tansoku |
| 30643s | main wouldn't have been in that bad of a |
| 30644s | situation right yes |
| 30647s | um put on his biggest minion that's |
| 30648s | what's allowed the Reverb to trade back |
| 30650s | over otherwise it would have just |
| 30652s | allowed him to hang out with one damage |
| 30655s | and didn't even know it would have died |
| 30656s | to one damage from weak U he would have |
| 30658s | gotten enough out of it before it |
| 30659s | inevitably died so |
| 30663s | and macro does not play well from behind |
| 30666s | so this is going to be uh |
| 30671s | quite a difficult situation to |
| 30674s | navigate out of |
| 30677s | let's turn four a lot of game left to |
| 30679s | play but it's not looking good |
| 30682s | yeah the Mage on board hasn't even |
| 30684s | started using its tools I suppose it |
| 30686s | used Aviva but it hasn't used all of its |
| 30687s | tools yet to actually |
| 30690s | start winning the games just manage to |
| 30692s | dominate the board which it does |
| 30694s | sometimes in this exact setup obviously |
| 30700s | I want to make a 4-4 and then just flame |
| 30702s | geezer |
| 30704s | so I want to do just volume up don't |
| 30706s | care about the um why do you and Sarah |
| 30708s | both call it geezers |
| 30710s | they are cases |
| 30713s | Diamond geysers |
| 30715s | it's a card we need to make |
| 30718s | instead of golden ones just get diamond |
| 30720s | ones |
| 30722s | like I've I've been willing to accept |
| 30724s | Shaman all these years uh-huh |
| 30728s | I will not accept Keyser |
| 30731s | you won't accept Giza |
| 30733s | no hmm |
| 30737s | what would you call it a geyser |
| 30743s | why would it be a geyser |
| 30749s | that doesn't rhyme with tweezer |
| 30754s | because that's why we call it a geyser |
| 30758s | the rhyming |
| 30761s | all right what gets tansuku out of this |
| 30765s | is it MC blink Tron perhaps |
| 30769s | ah |
| 30771s | no |
| 30773s | is it |
| 30774s | Henry the mild man of janitor |
| 30780s | could be |
| 30782s | gorilla bot |
| 30786s | yeah try again |
| 30792s | yeah who knows it's |
| 30795s | I mean he doesn't I don't you don't so |
| 30797s | it's a good spot for weq here M.C |
| 30799s | blintron could be used to get rid of a |
| 30802s | keyboard |
| 30806s | all right |
| 30813s | which I think is important |
| 30819s | true yeah that's a fair point actually |
| 30821s | it's when you said yeah might get him |
| 30823s | out I guess that makes sense |
| 30825s | that's like the highest upside |
| 30828s | um |
| 30829s | take the one extra damage not sure about |
| 30831s | it |
| 30833s | I don't know if that'll matter too much |
| 30834s | in this scenario but getting rid of |
| 30837s | keyboard to block some Tempo and maybe |
| 30839s | sticking a big board later on in the |
| 30840s | game could be |
| 30841s | pretty impactful |
| 30844s | we'll see out of these options |
| 30846s | um |
| 30849s | I mean you can just rip the video right |
| 30851s | now yeah |
| 30853s | but obviously go for the Phoenix Circle |
| 30856s | instead both were spell schools that |
| 30858s | he'd not played yet are they fellow holy |
| 30862s | I like the imps against Rogue as well |
| 30863s | the Rogue doesn't remove them except and |
| 30865s | they hit Divine Shield they just |
| 30867s | generally annoying |
| 30869s | I always talk about having lots of |
| 30870s | minions against Rogue as well so at some |
| 30872s | point here you can just even start |
| 30873s | raising racing |
| 30876s | do you leave space |
| 30879s | you feel your bored |
| 30883s | [Music] |
| 30897s | yeah just yeah yep these are these are |
| 30902s | hearthstone cards |
| 30904s | so flame |
| 30908s | might have to be kravatoa just just |
| 30910s | clear up multiple things on the board at |
| 30912s | once |
| 30914s | [Music] |
| 30914s | um |
| 30915s | player behemoth |
| 30920s | I don't know we don't want to be |
| 30922s | clearing things with it with a rogue we |
| 30924s | should be making things |
| 30929s | oh it's horrible isn't it he's just |
| 30931s | accepted that he's turned his garbage |
| 30933s | and he has to do this I don't mind this |
| 30935s | oh hello |
| 30938s | spideys |
| 30943s | I'm worried about imminent death |
| 30945s | we could use God everything a solid |
| 30948s | albums for these stealthies |
| 30952s | molten Rune can just forge it and start |
| 30955s | launching face next turn six seven eight |
| 30958s | nine ten damage on board |
| 30960s | it's quite close actually |
| 30964s | yeah |
| 30966s | so what's Town circus plan here |
| 30968s | how does he even try and win this when |
| 30971s | he doesn't get into blizzard is the |
| 30972s | answer but he doesn't know it's two |
| 30974s | pretty big stealthy things next turn and |
| 30977s | then tries to win the game on the back |
| 30979s | of him |
| 30980s | the lifesteal |
| 30982s | um |
| 30983s | sparkbot |
| 30985s | could |
| 30986s | be quite useful here |
| 30988s | so that's one thing to keep in mind |
| 30990s | especially with any |
| 30994s | but okay with the wind Fury and lots and |
| 30997s | lots of Lifestyle okay yeah |
| 30999s | back up but I mean |
| 31002s | it's a blizzard in hand |
| 31005s | these imps have done some work haven't |
| 31007s | they my goodness |
| 31012s | yeah this is five six seven eleven this |
| 31015s | is a lethal setup if tonsok was not able |
| 31017s | to clear stuff bone Spike does allow for |
| 31020s | some cleanup |
| 31022s | but Wiki just has the answer to |
| 31024s | everything it feels I mean Blizzard's |
| 31026s | pretty much the answer to everything |
| 31030s | so what can he do |
| 31034s | lifesteal spider serrated |
| 31037s | any I think you |
| 31041s | if only that was Rush |
| 31043s | I feel like you might hold on to the |
| 31046s | lifesteal |
| 31047s | yeah |
| 31050s | um |
| 31053s | or not |
| 31057s | so he's decided he thinks he's got to do |
| 31059s | it |
| 31062s | and I just use the uni to gain some |
| 31064s | health |
| 31064s | yeah |
| 31067s | it's not ideal but yeah |
| 31073s | this feels like a play to at least try |
| 31074s | and win in the world where your opponent |
| 31076s | has no hand |
| 31078s | yeah no I like this |
| 31080s | because if you just go all in on like |
| 31082s | two big stealthers |
| 31084s | uh and then trying any next turn for a |
| 31086s | bigger Health swing |
| 31088s | you open yourself up to |
| 31090s | like counter play whereas getting the |
| 31092s | any out right now |
| 31094s | lets Tom soku gain this little buffer of |
| 31096s | Life still hold on to the stealth |
| 31098s | magnetic in hand |
| 31100s | to try and maybe not to come back for a |
| 31103s | win later on |
| 31105s | so that I feel like this is the best |
| 31109s | best situation that he could hope to be |
| 31111s | in |
| 31112s | and does have the the little stealth |
| 31114s | scooter |
| 31116s | with live Steel on the left side uh-huh |
| 31121s | I mean the blizzard here doesn't |
| 31123s | actually kill anything obviously it will |
| 31125s | with the trades but doesn't actually |
| 31126s | kill anything you know and costs the |
| 31128s | turn so |
| 31130s | considering that tamsoko is basically |
| 31132s | the aggro deck here he's at least found |
| 31134s | a way to fight into |
| 31136s | I know Dreamland where he might win |
| 31139s | it's not particularly optimistic for him |
| 31141s | but |
| 31142s | oh |
| 31145s | I thought it was gonna be parablast |
| 31150s | I take home blast way too often it just |
| 31152s | sits in my hand the whole game |
| 31153s | desperately try and win |
| 31155s | well |
| 31164s | [Music] |
| 31172s | I want to give reborn to a spooter |
| 31176s | that seems a good idea |
| 31180s | I want to not die next turn |
| 31183s | what about if you |
| 31189s | Reborn the UN stealth winfury scooter |
| 31194s | okay |
| 31198s | kravitel |
| 31200s | yeah I like it actually and then you've |
| 31202s | got coins and blingers and |
| 31205s | start with cooking |
| 31207s | yeah you start with click Locker anyway |
| 31208s | because I don't want this to just be |
| 31209s | able to be pinged off |
| 31213s | this work this okay this works too |
| 31216s | sure this is actually better so you've |
| 31218s | got one big minion and it's gonna be |
| 31220s | forever or it's just gonna go down in |
| 31222s | flames but either way |
| 31224s | he's setting up a chance to try and win |
| 31225s | the game |
| 31229s | and Wiki did Shuffle the solid Alibis |
| 31232s | back into the deck |
| 31243s | indeed he did |
| 31251s | so is it like a million o'clock |
| 31254s | in APAC right now and 10 circles are |
| 31256s | starting to |
| 31258s | show signs of that I think |
| 31261s | I'm gaming hours right now |
| 31265s | in Japan |
| 31266s | only if your Starbucks lovers like |
| 31268s | that's just the only time it works |
| 31272s | well yeah because it's 9 A.M it's the |
| 31274s | morning |
| 31274s | [Music] |
| 31277s | if you've been up all night |
| 31280s | yeah but come on |
| 31283s | we can do it because we're young and |
| 31285s | we're Reckless |
| 31287s | we'll take this way too far we always |
| 31289s | will TJ we always have done |
| 31292s | oh deathborn what a throwback |
| 31296s | go back to six weeks ago |
| 31299s | throwback |
| 31301s | Sunday |
| 31302s | what a throwback |
| 31304s | this is a full Board of skellies |
| 31310s | but how much damage is this |
| 31314s | [Music] |
| 31317s | not quite enough |
| 31321s | [Music] |
| 31322s | you look like my next mistake |
| 31327s | I made this mistake all the time TJ |
| 31331s | thinking I've got lethal over two turns |
| 31332s | and just doesn't get there |
| 31335s | but I know you've heard about me anyway |
| 31340s | I hope you made this mistake though this |
| 31342s | one right there this specific mistake |
| 31345s | no yeah that one probably not |
| 31347s | no that one that mistake |
| 31350s | no I've not made that mistake or that |
| 31352s | joke ever |
| 31354s | there's probably a pastor out there for |
| 31357s | it I'm sure there is in fact if I know |
| 31358s | there is |
| 31371s | okay gotta kill the artificer that's uh |
| 31376s | step one |
| 31379s | and question mark question mark question |
| 31382s | mark step three profit |
| 31388s | all right |
| 31389s | got him down to eight |
| 31395s | is he gonna do this |
| 31397s | nah |
| 31400s | says Reverb |
| 31404s | ain't enough damage in the world |
| 31412s | um okay sure does emcee |
| 31422s | yeah okay you can see it's yeah I forgot |
| 31425s | about the life seal even though he just |
| 31427s | gained a bunch of life I was like just |
| 31429s | the Reverb alone even if it didn't have |
| 31431s | life steel would probably have been |
| 31432s | enough |
| 31433s | security spot in the game |
| 31436s | especially with the volume up to try and |
| 31437s | find the solid Alibis but |
| 31439s | tonsoku |
| 31441s | against the ropes now |
| 31443s | down 2-0 in this final decider match |
| 31448s | it's just down to the Druid left in the |
| 31451s | lineup so |
| 31453s | I mean I feel like out of I want all the |
| 31456s | decks in the tournament druid's probably |
| 31458s | the one with the most weak spots |
| 31461s | for instance |
| 31463s | okay |
| 31464s | yeah I'd say so you have to hope that |
| 31467s | the Rogue has pretty much nothing |
| 31470s | and then get the ideal start |
| 31475s | yeah like the other two though like |
| 31477s | disciples age four |
| 31479s | and then double innervate into drums |
| 31483s | on five |
| 31485s | yeah and then you're probably dead |
| 31487s | because it's turn five and you get to |
| 31489s | row you haven't done anything to them |
| 31491s | all game yeah you gotta have like plant |
| 31493s | like your opening hand is double planted |
| 31496s | evidence natural causes |
| 31500s | okay |
| 31502s | all right I want to see that I want to |
| 31503s | see it happen and then you draw into |
| 31506s | disciple you clear their thing with |
| 31508s | Planet evidence |
| 31510s | then you're drawn to innovate you clear |
| 31511s | their thing with Nature's natural causes |
| 31515s | drums and you |
| 31518s | clear their thing with |
| 31520s | Planet evidence then they play it then |
| 31523s | they play a thing you can't deal with it |
| 31524s | but you play your disciple |
| 31526s | uh-huh okay then they go really big with |
| 31528s | that thing but it's okay because you |
| 31530s | integrate innervate trumps |
| 31532s | uh |
| 31533s | and then and then your cultivations are |
| 31536s | super cheap by that point because |
| 31540s | man are you clearing stuff |
| 31542s | and summoning trians |
| 31544s | happening |
| 31547s | all right there's some of those cards |
| 31548s | you just talked about definitely |
| 31553s | evidence |
| 31557s | what about topiar the shrubegazor uh-huh |
| 31562s | great for those turn sevens where you're |
| 31564s | just alive against those Rogue decks |
| 31567s | yep |
| 31569s | not bad not bad |
| 31571s | that's okay is desperately wanting to |
| 31574s | keep this prep bone Spike it's so good |
| 31575s | but your opponent has to actually play |
| 31577s | something which they do |
| 31580s | yeah they play some trains earlier okay |
| 31582s | it keeps everything but the bond Spike |
| 31584s | of course |
| 31586s | keeps for the pit stop prep |
| 31589s | stop popping the peas |
| 31595s | I can't pop anything all right all my |
| 31598s | letters are so soft the ones that I can |
| 31600s | actually say |
| 31602s | which isn't many |
| 31606s | oh |
| 31608s | there's only one letter that you can't |
| 31610s | say |
| 31611s | yeah |
| 31612s | and you can actually say the letter |
| 31615s | yeah |
| 31617s | I just can't |
| 31618s | say it |
| 31622s | I could say them all oh man I'm clever I |
| 31625s | can say all letters you just have to |
| 31627s | give me time |
| 31628s | no pressure I noticed I noticed a small |
| 31630s | mistake here from tonsoku |
| 31637s | he didn't choose it though |
| 31639s | every time |
| 31644s | ah TJ |
| 31650s | I don't know this is pretty close to uh |
| 31655s | the scenario I was talking about |
| 31657s | let's get in there |
| 31662s | but here's a two minor four six Gadget |
| 31665s | maker |
| 31669s | which seems strong at this point |
| 31671s | I would like to add if it lives is the |
| 31674s | game just over oh my god with Snoop into |
| 31677s | coin coin automatic uh oh my goodness |
| 31681s | I've answered my question |
| 31683s | so close |
| 31685s | they've only kept the planet evidence |
| 31687s | yeah |
| 31690s | that's how that works |
| 31698s | you go |
| 31700s | lunar solar seedlings |
| 31705s | yep |
| 31710s | foreign |
| 31711s | the most difficult fiendish Circle ever |
| 31716s | that's been that is difficulty I love it |
| 31720s | [Laughter] |
| 31725s | I mean what else can he do |
| 31728s | uh hero power pass I don't know |
| 31731s | seedlings pass |
| 31733s | okay |
| 31736s | you take the floor |
| 31739s | to just help them kill you |
| 31741s | no okay |
| 31745s | and this thing ain't going anywhere |
| 31748s | no |
| 31750s | oh yeah |
| 31753s | you know where it's going it's going |
| 31754s | face that's where it's going probably |
| 31756s | twice |
| 31757s | looking for wind Fury |
| 31761s | nobody knows |
| 31762s | [Laughter] |
| 31768s | let's just be honest here no one knows |
| 31770s | what the colors are anymore |
| 31773s | blue it's Reborn |
| 31775s | orange is taunt thank you |
| 31779s | and orange but the slightly less Orange |
| 31783s | oh |
| 31785s | coolant |
| 31790s | his Divine Shield |
| 31792s | um this is |
| 31795s | oh yeah |
| 31797s | horn |
| 31805s | he's screaming and crying about the |
| 31807s | perfect storm this turn oh my it's just |
| 31809s | all over 11. like you're saying he had |
| 31812s | some good stuff but it's |
| 31814s | he appears to be just dying on turn four |
| 31821s | all right this is innovate |
| 31823s | nope okay there's the planet evidence |
| 31826s | but something to really do here |
| 31828s | so TJ's dream scenario kinda came true |
| 31831s | in that he drew one of the cards |
| 31838s | I just realized that was tattoo three |
| 31841s | yep |
| 31844s | that's okay now looking like he's gonna |
| 31846s | get back into this match just saying to |
| 31848s | himself I can make all these tables turn |
| 31851s | yeah get it to three two just win one at |
| 31853s | a time like the fury Hunter ways that's |
| 31855s | how few until you win tournaments just |
| 31856s | one game at a time |
| 31860s | so anyway you can get a peaceful Piper |
| 31862s | and discover a starfish |
| 31866s | probably |
| 31869s | there's usually a way if there's a |
| 31871s | question of can they do that blah blah |
| 31873s | blah blah blah the answer is almost |
| 31874s | always yes in Hearthstone these days |
| 31877s | would have been had to happen this turn |
| 31879s | for zero Mana |
| 31894s | well |
| 31899s | it's got to be a lethal here with the |
| 31901s | right hiccups right |
| 31903s | nah |
| 31906s | I don't think so okay |
| 31910s | even if you want second spark bot in |
| 31912s | both of your |
| 31914s | gadgets |
| 31916s | were blades deal three damage still be |
| 31919s | be one off one off okay |
| 31930s | actually if you hit coolant |
| 31934s | on the first one and then magnetize the |
| 31936s | spider |
| 31938s | yeah |
| 31940s | and then blades blades from the other |
| 31942s | two |
| 31943s | because you get the coin when you attack |
| 31946s | oh do you know that while minion has |
| 31949s | stealth it cannot taunt wow |
| 31953s | oh the interview was off the top there |
| 31955s | was disciple jumps and intervene in hand |
| 31957s | I was so close if only kept the planet |
| 31959s | evidence |
| 31960s | what a game |
| 31962s | celebrates or tries to he's a little bit |
| 31965s | focused at the moment |
| 31967s | yeah all right so the Druid left for Wii |
| 31971s | Q |
| 31974s | um tonsoku has |
| 31979s | um |
| 31980s | not Vogue |
| 31982s | I've got it here he's got the Mage and |
| 31984s | the Warlock |
| 31987s | yeah |
| 31989s | I was looking at the wrong list because |
| 31990s | I was looking at a uh |
| 31993s | not a Naga mage |
| 31995s | yeah the Warlock and |
| 31997s | Naga mage |
| 32000s | so two two Decks that have significant |
| 32002s | pop-off potential |
| 32005s | pop-up potential |
| 32008s | it's popular |
| 32010s | he's popping the mic |
| 32014s | oh I have uh |
| 32018s | actually a decent amount of faith in the |
| 32020s | Warlock |
| 32022s | okay because it can cheat out so much |
| 32024s | stuff |
| 32025s | um |
| 32026s | but the Mage I I worry for a ton Soco in |
| 32029s | the Mage because Mage can beat itself |
| 32031s | sometimes that's not the kind of |
| 32033s | situation |
| 32034s | you want to beat it we'll be in we saw |
| 32036s | it earlier |
| 32037s | but he's gonna go with the Warlock first |
| 32040s | hand is meh a big old meh |
| 32046s | um a Rose Garden filled with thorns |
| 32047s | let's do it you think |
| 32050s | uh |
| 32051s | yes |
| 32052s | it's a thorn Garden Thorn yeah plenty of |
| 32056s | filled with |
| 32059s | filled with thorns oof |
| 32063s | nothing to do nothing to do |
| 32070s | tansoku not a bad opening has the uh |
| 32073s | Forge of wills and slime just needs to |
| 32076s | find |
| 32078s | something for this slime to get rid of |
| 32081s | and then get back |
| 32083s | [Music] |
| 32086s | okay probably a forge |
| 32088s | yeah a couple of forges going so |
| 32092s | forging hope and then supplies maybe oh |
| 32095s | there we go oh there we go he knows how |
| 32099s | the game works yeah so you probably |
| 32102s | forged this turn and then you supplies |
| 32106s | next turn |
| 32109s | you could just go Forge Forge into Forge |
| 32113s | I think you do and then just do the |
| 32116s | thing on turn five yeah |
| 32119s | just just thing them on five |
| 32122s | yeah |
| 32126s | breathless with a nasty scar one way or |
| 32128s | the other you'll find out if you're |
| 32129s | winning the Hearthstone game or not |
| 32143s | see the ties me Captain |
| 32145s | all right |
| 32147s | [Music] |
| 32152s | interesting to see how deliberate Wiki |
| 32154s | plays he's have you seen weekly in |
| 32156s | people's chats |
| 32158s | yeah he went from like really quiet new |
| 32162s | person into LOL I'm better than all of |
| 32165s | you in about five minutes |
| 32167s | he fits in well with the the top player |
| 32170s | community he competes with Gabby for |
| 32172s | haha you made a mistake so I was kind of |
| 32174s | supposed to see how how sort of |
| 32176s | deliberate he is when he plays |
| 32178s | I feel like he's earned that |
| 32180s | I think he has yeah it's not a criticism |
| 32182s | I'm glad he does it it |
| 32184s | the top players this year sort of all |
| 32186s | mucking in together to create sort of |
| 32188s | they're a little Community because |
| 32190s | they're looking out for each other as |
| 32191s | well as competing with each other |
| 32192s | because it's such a grind |
| 32194s | and yeah he's fit right in |
| 32197s | welding |
| 32201s | Wing world and Wing welding could be |
| 32204s | incredibly clutch |
| 32207s | now there's a card name I can say |
| 32211s | Wing welding yeah sounds like something |
| 32213s | I'd say for many things in fact but yeah |
| 32216s | but what if there was a card called ring |
| 32219s | welding I know I've been so much trouble |
| 32223s | as it is that gets me in trouble |
| 32225s | sometimes but |
| 32228s | okay very deliberately put all your |
| 32231s | thoughts and thought into making sure |
| 32232s | you said that correctly I have to power |
| 32234s | into that one yeah just otherwise I get |
| 32235s | so much trouble just Bear Down be like |
| 32242s | all right |
| 32247s | and then we're looking at a reduction |
| 32248s | here |
| 32250s | reduction see I can do that one yeah |
| 32254s | and then next thing is slime into |
| 32257s | double |
| 32259s | location and off you go |
| 32262s | well |
| 32263s | there's a problem with that |
| 32266s | mm-hmm |
| 32273s | never mind that's not I see no problem |
| 32279s | so what if he has the wing welding next |
| 32281s | turn |
| 32283s | huh |
| 32285s | I see no problems ever |
| 32288s | okay |
| 32289s | I'll tell you I'm insane but I don't |
| 32291s | this is how it is no it doesn't because |
| 32293s | he can just go |
| 32295s | off slime then play sargeras and then |
| 32297s | nether eat nether |
| 32300s | whatever it's called chompom |
| 32304s | oh yeah I don't know the ability I don't |
| 32306s | know what the ability is called |
| 32308s | [Music] |
| 32312s | into The Nether |
| 32315s | I mean no I I'm terrible into the it |
| 32319s | might it's something the nether right |
| 32322s | everything's a never |
| 32324s | yeah |
| 32327s | going with another drum circle here |
| 32329s | probably because it already has double |
| 32331s | drum circle that are both forged |
| 32334s | for the double choose one effect |
| 32336s | the third one could be the deci the |
| 32339s | disciples |
| 32341s | um choose one |
| 32353s | okay |
| 32358s | it's a lot |
| 32366s | internet it might be into The Nether |
| 32371s | oh no it's even |
| 32375s | yeah he killed it first so it swapped to |
| 32378s | even |
| 32381s | this is smart |
| 32384s | so now it's gonna have to what get rid |
| 32385s | of the sargeras |
| 32388s | foreign yes |
| 32401s | don't think you need shallow grave |
| 32402s | anymore I don't think he'd he possessed |
| 32404s | that's a little snort that I made which |
| 32406s | is meant to be a bit of casting which |
| 32407s | just came out as a snort but hey I tried |
| 32414s | push the 11. |
| 32422s | set it up as 33 for next turn |
| 32425s | how that works |
| 32428s | it never gets there but you can try |
| 32443s | it's pretty brutal though good playback |
| 32445s | though |
| 32452s | yeah nicely worked out by Weeki |
| 32456s | now we got another Circle coming in hot |
| 32459s | yep |
| 32461s | and this one's um |
| 32464s | this one's a good one |
| 32470s | just about tidy this up though |
| 32474s | nearly |
| 32478s | problem is |
| 32484s | okay okay maybe isn't a problem |
| 32487s | okay so Excursion |
| 32491s | we're supplying |
| 32499s | um |
| 32502s | I'll give you this time sure |
| 32510s | he doesn't like that hand okay |
| 32515s | I guess we get some one Mana things |
| 32517s | don't we yeah let's have a new hand of |
| 32518s | one man of things |
| 32522s | it's just the same cards |
| 32528s | Symphony of sixes |
| 32532s | and then next time we double giant the |
| 32534s | seven seven if we clear up this turn |
| 32541s | didn't get the damage probably the it's |
| 32544s | probably demon nope |
| 32550s | just bump some things then next turn |
| 32552s | make some seven sevens or 13 13s in some |
| 32555s | worlds |
| 32556s | yep |
| 32558s | that reanimator in hand is going to be |
| 32560s | pretty good |
| 32565s | because now they're having that turn but |
| 32567s | it seems okay that was going to be a |
| 32569s | weak turn from week |
| 32571s | you you yeah nicely done TJ nicely done |
| 32576s | they're both kind of out of stuff but |
| 32577s | the Warlock |
| 32581s | eyes |
| 32583s | no Titan warlock this could take a while |
| 32586s | I don't think you shrub because there |
| 32587s | yet you need more nature spells to |
| 32589s | capitalize no I mean in the long run |
| 32591s | though like yeah there's not a lot |
| 32594s | he's got to fit the disciple in I think |
| 32596s | here |
| 32598s | yeah |
| 32599s | let's get that 15th drum circle into |
| 32601s | play |
| 32607s | I mean this is nearly lethal it's a lot |
| 32610s | is it lethal is there any way you can |
| 32612s | lethal it no |
| 32615s | you sure is there no weird defile |
| 32618s | there's always a weird defile right |
| 32620s | uh actually you put the four four in you |
| 32622s | make a rush four four then you put the |
| 32624s | finish the four four into the four six |
| 32626s | you've got a one a two a three he could |
| 32628s | just make four Thirty and thirteens I |
| 32631s | think it's lethal then |
| 32633s | where does he get the extra two damage |
| 32637s | with the defile you can set up a one two |
| 32641s | and you can kill the other four six with |
| 32643s | a minion |
| 32646s | yeah I know but he's only got 18 damage |
| 32647s | on the board you can't attack oh I see |
| 32650s | okay then I can't count yeah that's |
| 32652s | that's the problem he could have just |
| 32653s | made two 13-13 rushers and put him in |
| 32656s | and that's a much easier way to get the |
| 32657s | taunt just make your final go face |
| 32660s | honestly which has happened here |
| 32663s | wouldn't that be broken |
| 32665s | make this giant board nothing matters we |
| 32668s | could call it unleash fell |
| 32674s | oh this actually is lethal |
| 32677s | because the only one dead left in the |
| 32678s | deck right oh no there was a second |
| 32680s | Behemoth wasn't there |
| 32681s | oh never mind |
| 32685s | because it didn't summon it |
| 32687s | that's so good |
| 32689s | I thought I would summon it wait what |
| 32692s | I don't think he thought the same |
| 32695s | the the order he needs to because the |
| 32696s | board was full when he did it it didn't |
| 32699s | do the thing and I go nutty |
| 32703s | I know you should oh no no no because |
| 32706s | all right I I said it see right logic |
| 32709s | different conclusion the way the card's |
| 32711s | worded is trigger the death rattle the |
| 32714s | death rattle was what summoned the |
| 32716s | tractor right |
| 32719s | so then when the Behemoth died it didn't |
| 32721s | summon anything |
| 32725s | right |
| 32726s | you see what I'm saying yeah so it did |
| 32728s | the thing and then it died |
| 32731s | that works but there was no board space |
| 32734s | because the behem is still alive and |
| 32736s | then kill it and then there was no |
| 32738s | undeads left to pull |
| 32740s | understood that's unfortunate he thought |
| 32742s | the same as me possibly just |
| 32747s | just it doesn't matter he won anywhere |
| 32749s | there's no one didn't know this weird |
| 32750s | Niche interaction at nine o'clock in the |
| 32752s | morning having played Hearthstone all |
| 32753s | night I'm gonna fall on the floor now |
| 32756s | yep |
| 32757s | um but we have one more game left to go |
| 32760s | uh all the way to game five oh my Series |
| 32762s | today I've been the game five |
| 32764s | uh hang in there TJ one more one more |
| 32767s | just one more |
| 32769s | I'm hanging in there tonsoko on the Mage |
| 32771s | we get on the Druid once again |
| 32774s | cantatsoku sweep the Druid it's it's |
| 32777s | gonna need a better hand than he had |
| 32779s | last time that's for dancer there's a |
| 32781s | siren |
| 32784s | yeah |
| 32788s | uh that's yeah how do you cast this |
| 32791s | there's the siren okay yep I agree TJ |
| 32793s | there is the siren that's it that's the |
| 32795s | cast there she is |
| 32799s | Simon gets Druid seems like a good card |
| 32801s | to have |
| 32804s | to intellect |
| 32807s | yep |
| 32810s | that's a full keep right there if you're |
| 32812s | weak you you're like oh no |
| 32815s | oh no |
| 32821s | kind of want a quarter for him here |
| 32824s | shh |
| 32826s | next turn |
| 32829s | look for the 4G card |
| 32832s | Planet evidence |
| 32834s | there you go |
| 32840s | it's gonna be |
| 32848s | the suspense is kill |
| 32849s | and me and me |
| 32851s | that one is the left-hand one |
| 32853s | oh plot of sins |
| 32857s | oh |
| 32861s | yep keeping this other spear because |
| 32862s | that's the uh |
| 32864s | Naga |
| 32865s | yep that's the fuel |
| 32867s | the nag and the Naga spell Naga chain |
| 32869s | one drop |
| 32877s | he's gonna just keep everything and gone |
| 32879s | crazy on turn four or five |
| 32885s | probably gonna be turn four |
| 32887s | yeah you're only two slogans the old |
| 32889s | Druids do you because they |
| 32891s | they do a thing or two |
| 32893s | yep |
| 32899s | life finders gift card I was trying to |
| 32902s | remember the name of earlier for Dawn |
| 32904s | who did remember it unlike me |
| 32906s | oh infinite has the maxitude is just |
| 32909s | ideal |
| 32911s | it's just good stuff Frozen touch let's |
| 32914s | do it yeah |
| 32916s | what does he need like he doesn't need |
| 32919s | anything really does he just needs not |
| 32920s | to whiff on a knuckle or two and there's |
| 32921s | a full board in Argus coming |
| 32923s | he's got enough card draw enough cheap |
| 32926s | stuff |
| 32927s | just needed not to go horribly wrong |
| 32931s | oh my goodness |
| 32933s | [Music] |
| 32939s | trouble oh this is weird |
| 32942s | I kind of want to just infinitize the |
| 32945s | maxitude |
| 32948s | okay |
| 32949s | we're just gonna keep out of full hand |
| 32953s | I think he's happy with his hand right |
| 32954s | what can you burn you don't really want |
| 32957s | to burn your second siren maybe I yeah |
| 32959s | who cares tonsoku sat up |
| 32963s | the sign of someone who's going off |
| 32974s | big haste |
| 32977s | I think I want to just plot a sins right |
| 32978s | now right |
| 32982s | nope |
| 32984s | if this draws drums then he can live |
| 32986s | binder's gift and then have that for |
| 32988s | next turn |
| 32990s | okay |
| 32993s | gotta do it |
| 32996s | on your marks get set |
| 33000s | no because |
| 33003s | we can ruin my setup |
| 33010s | he's waiting to go |
| 33013s | he was doing the thing I think he'd make |
| 33015s | the one once I think you make the one |
| 33016s | ones |
| 33018s | while yeah I think you should see so you |
| 33020s | have stuff on the board that tonsoku has |
| 33022s | to pay attention to yeah because they're |
| 33024s | gonna get drum buffed |
| 33026s | no no no no seedlings okay and you know |
| 33030s | it's coming because he's played no cards |
| 33031s | right it's not certain giveaway but it |
| 33033s | is fairly suspicious |
| 33038s | here we go |
| 33046s | just watch the magic happen |
| 33052s | foreign |
| 33054s | spear is perfect in this situation |
| 33056s | because you want to be netting more Mana |
| 33058s | than you're spending right so you want |
| 33060s | one cost spells |
| 33062s | and one cost now goes |
| 33067s | oh no there's three no |
| 33074s | however will he survive now |
| 33085s | he runs out on me |
| 33090s | do that thing do the things do all the |
| 33092s | things that's it keep making things |
| 33095s | finish off by copying the thing |
| 33103s | want some more stuff no okay I can get |
| 33107s | what I would call Safe yeah |
| 33110s | you know that and did one damage |
| 33116s | every time gets me every time |
| 33122s | [Music] |
| 33128s | okay I gotta get through it |
| 33131s | shh |
| 33135s | okay |
| 33137s | the best way to do that is start playing |
| 33139s | Noggins and spells |
| 33141s | but also you've got to make space but |
| 33142s | you can make space right because you can |
| 33143s | just crash your minions in so |
| 33146s | he's got a girl he's taking way too long |
| 33155s | he's gonna set up for a fire sale to |
| 33157s | clear everything looks like it |
| 33162s | weak you doesn't look impressed |
| 33177s | and now he's just making sure he doesn't |
| 33179s | mess it up because if you mess this up |
| 33180s | you lose immediately |
| 33184s | so it makes sense to sort of take your |
| 33185s | time just a moment here you've got to |
| 33186s | make sure you get enough for the fire |
| 33188s | sale |
| 33190s | do something silly early in the morning |
| 33197s | nice |
| 33205s | nice but not much stuff left but there |
| 33209s | is there isn't a um |
| 33211s | Survivor that's full I guess |
| 33213s | yep and then for the size to reload a |
| 33215s | bit as well |
| 33216s | will savara have uh coin one man of |
| 33220s | Frozen touch I think |
| 33222s | no an infinitized it's been there for a |
| 33225s | while hasn't it it has been there for a |
| 33227s | while yeah |
| 33231s | not sure then |
| 33234s | meanwhile on the other side |
| 33236s | a lot of sin was the foresight to take |
| 33240s | plot Ascent we didn't see the other |
| 33241s | options so they could have been terrible |
| 33242s | but the foresight to take partisans is |
| 33244s | actually |
| 33245s | really nice |
| 33247s | yeah Magic Madness Heaven and sins |
| 33251s | they are |
| 33254s | and I think that might be game over |
| 33258s | it's looking that way |
| 33261s | because weiku's got the drums to buff |
| 33263s | these up and finish it off and tonsoka |
| 33266s | just doesn't have anything |
| 33269s | and it just looked like Tom Circa had a |
| 33271s | really good hand here living but it just |
| 33273s | turns out that four or five fives |
| 33276s | yeah if if there is a coin in the savara |
| 33278s | which I don't remember if it was in the |
| 33280s | hand early enough |
| 33281s | it's avara coin treasure guard |
| 33284s | but then you're stranding this siren |
| 33285s | without a naga in hand |
| 33288s | as soon as you're just dead anyway |
| 33297s | this was the other one okay |
| 33299s | he's dead to a single buff so I think he |
| 33301s | got a coin treasure guard here |
| 33303s | makes sense to me gotta not die like as |
| 33305s | much as you want to do other things with |
| 33306s | this deck not dying is the first part of |
| 33309s | that |
| 33310s | yep still dies though pretty sure |
| 33315s | yeah it's 28. |
| 33317s | solar eclipse and drums each one gets to |
| 33320s | attack |
| 33321s | twice |
| 33323s | yep |
| 33325s | so three no 27 is it exact exact yeah |
| 33328s | it's three nines |
| 33331s | he knows it's not counterspell because |
| 33332s | he played the seedlings and then the |
| 33334s | drums into it in the previous turn no |
| 33336s | new no new information has been |
| 33337s | presented |
| 33345s | so he's just 27 and see what happens |
| 33349s | went on 27. I guess he hasn't checked |
| 33351s | for ice barrier yeah exactly |
| 33354s | like oh no it'll be us very all right |
| 33357s | there you have it weak you takes the |
| 33359s | series three to two |
| 33362s | very good navigation of that Druid match |
| 33365s | the plot of sin coming in clutch there |
| 33367s | at the end and uh we will move on to day |
| 33371s | two to the top eight and unfortunately |
| 33373s | tonsoku is out right here always makes |
| 33375s | me sad when tonsoka loses in a |
| 33377s | tournament which it feels like we've |
| 33379s | seen happen over and over again because |
| 33380s | he's in every tournament yeah that we've |
| 33382s | broadcast for the last two years |
| 33383s | basically |
| 33386s | um but uh Wiki did get better from today |
| 33389s | took him up some tries on the druid |
| 33391s | but |
| 33393s | I mean he was firing in all cylinders |
| 33395s | with the deck It's just sometimes that |
| 33396s | deck has some pretty poor matchups and |
| 33398s | those matchups just happen to be |
| 33400s | in the lineup for uh for tonsoku this is |
| 33403s | really important for week you like it's |
| 33405s | his first season as a sort of a big |
| 33407s | Hearthstone player he he memes a little |
| 33409s | bit in his own bio saying you know top |
| 33412s | 16 last time LOL basically but that was |
| 33414s | last place |
| 33416s | um and I think he is a player who can |
| 33418s | win Worlds this year |
| 33419s | but I think he might need this |
| 33421s | experience just when you hear him talk |
| 33422s | he's a bit nervous at times when he's |
| 33424s | not being a cocky Gabby mode type player |
| 33426s | and I think every game that he wins |
| 33428s | every match that he wins along the way |
| 33430s | here even if he doesn't qualify he's |
| 33431s | going to qualify for worlds on points |
| 33432s | barring |
| 33434s | unforeseen happenings |
| 33436s | um unlikely happening so every match he |
| 33439s | plays in his tournaments every match he |
| 33440s | gets through every day he gets through |
| 33441s | he's just experience towards worlds for |
| 33443s | him I think and of course he would love |
| 33445s | to win and take six months a bit more |
| 33446s | easily but |
| 33448s | I think it's a big deal that we queue is |
| 33450s | going through here |
| 33452s | yeah something to make way for the new |
| 33453s | guard |
| 33455s | there you have it the top eight |
| 33457s | y Casey pocket train Hemlock Q weq Gabby |
| 33460s | and dredi |
| 33462s | I always want to say wow look at that |
| 33465s | top eight because wow look at that top |
| 33467s | eight but I think when you start with 16 |
| 33469s | players who are all wow style players |
| 33471s | it's like it's always going to happen |
| 33472s | right but this does look like |
| 33475s | a very powerful topic yeah I'm looking |
| 33479s | forward to that first match |
| 33484s | yep and then the last match too |
| 33487s | the uh the the prince of European |
| 33489s | Hearthstone versus uh the America |
| 33493s | the entire America's region |
| 33496s | oh |
| 33498s | oh geez and when you was coming from |
| 33501s | like the second match of the day you |
| 33503s | could just say it's dread eye on nobody |
| 33504s | this time around because everything else |
| 33506s | the wheels are coming off game rvg was |
| 33508s | so close was not close at all |
| 33512s | [Music] |
| 33513s | uh but uh yeah it should be a fantastic |
| 33517s | day tomorrow I'm honestly |
| 33520s | really looking forward to it I think you |
| 33522s | know |
| 33523s | I wasn't entirely sure coming into this |
| 33525s | meta game how things would go like if |
| 33528s | we'd have like this homogenization of |
| 33530s | decks and whatnot |
| 33531s | but we've seen a lot of variety in terms |
| 33535s | of uh lineups which very cool to see |
| 33539s | especially given that we have balance |
| 33540s | changes on the horizon |
| 33542s | it's cool to see that we're not just |
| 33543s | seeing the same four decks dominate over |
| 33545s | and over again |
| 33546s | no absolutely it's a breath of fresh air |
| 33549s | um parts of the matter haven't been for |
| 33550s | my personal taste I thought watching was |
| 33552s | gonna be a big difference yeah there's |
| 33553s | so much in this matter I absolutely love |
| 33555s | it I've Loved today so much there's all |
| 33558s | the decks seem viable even you know |
| 33559s | there's even a warrior out there did |
| 33562s | they get through |
| 33563s | I'm not sure but even Warrior got into |
| 33565s | this tournament so |
| 33567s | yeah I think just missing Paladin but |
| 33569s | paladins had |
| 33571s | many many many tournaments in a row so I |
| 33574s | don't mind |
| 33577s | tell the time to shine let's head it's |
| 33578s | time to shine as have we kneel that's |
| 33580s | how we let's have time to shine |
| 33582s | it's coming to an end right now as we |
| 33584s | are done for the day so tomorrow we will |
| 33586s | return with the top eight we're gonna |
| 33588s | start at the same time we'll be here in |
| 33590s | the same place I know this is a global |
| 33592s | tournament but I'm not going to try and |
| 33593s | do the global time zone so we start at |
| 33595s | 9am Pacific Time or noon uh eastern time |
| 33599s | and uh yeah we have a full day of our |
| 33602s | top eight ahead of us and at the end of |
| 33604s | tomorrow we will Crown our Masters Tour |
| 33606s | summer Champion so it should be a fun |
| 33607s | one but that's it from us so for myself |
| 33609s | from Neil from the other Casters in the |
| 33611s | entire broadcast crew here thanks for |
| 33613s | watching and we'll see you tomorrow for |
| 33614s | more Hearthstone action |
| 33617s | thank you |
| 33620s | [Music] |
| 33637s | [Music] |
| 33650s | thank you |
| 33655s | [Music] |
| 33667s | [Music] |
| 33674s | thank you |
| 33688s | [Music] |
| 33697s | foreign |
| 33698s | [Music] |
| 33710s | foreign |
| 33711s | [Music] |
| 33726s | [Music] |
| 33730s | thank you |