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956s | hello everybody and welcome to the final |
959s | day of the Hearthstone World |
961s | Championship my name is TJ and joining |
963s | me to kick off the show is the one the |
965s | only Neil Lorinda Bond |
967s | Neil how are you doing today I am doing |
970s | great TJ we've built up to this for so |
973s | long and we're finally gonna find out |
975s | who the world champion is for 2022 and |
978s | it could be the same person as world |
979s | championship for 2021 which would be |
981s | both an anti-climax and the best thing |
984s | ever all at once |
988s | that's right Neil you know what I just |
990s | realized |
991s | that I'm gonna have to do in the first |
993s | game |
995s | and I'm gonna put it back |
997s | 3 A.M |
999s | I forgot to put on my shirt |
1002s | it's fine teaching |
1004s | I can cover for you you look |
1008s | I'll do I'll do it at the first game you |
1010s | look great deal I'll put on a t-shirt |
1013s | great opening to the final day of the |
1016s | world championship yeah forgets to put |
1017s | on a shirt you'll know how this works we |
1020s | don't need to see this you need to see |
1021s | more of TJ putting on a shirt |
1023s | um before dual elimination group |
1024s | brackets if you've been here the last |
1026s | few days you saw that top eight meat in |
1028s | single elimination final brackets if |
1030s | you're here now you're going to see that |
1031s | the winner becomes the 2022 World |
1034s | Champion |
1035s | yes of course cool good talk and it's |
1038s | best of five four deck Conquest if |
1040s | you're here for the first time where |
1042s | have you been for the last eight years |
1043s | Conquest you have to win with all of |
1045s | your decks there you go it's on the |
1047s | screen in front of you you get four |
1048s | decks you ban one you win with the other |
1050s | three you go through to the next round |
1051s | you keep doing that until there are no |
1052s | more rounds to go through and then |
1053s | you're the world champion for 2022. |
1056s | sounds easy enough Neil sounds are easy |
1059s | enough just like putting on a shirt |
1062s | it's just like putting out I even got it |
1065s | out I laid it out on my bed |
1068s | got all the creases and wrinkles out |
1070s | um |
1071s | and then you go to the bath and you just |
1073s | forgot about it and then I was like all |
1076s | right I got everything set in front of |
1077s | me I got my water |
1079s | I'm ready to go I got all my Taps open |
1082s | keep track and analyze some games of |
1085s | world championship level Hearthstone I |
1088s | knew I was missing one step I knew I was |
1090s | missing one step so first prize TJ the |
1094s | first prize it's 200 lots of 500 that's |
1097s | so much money |
1100s | that's a that equates to a lot of points |
1103s | if we were to be giving out points for |
1105s | the world championship but I I mean even |
1108s | just rocking up to the world |
1109s | championship |
1110s | um you know very difficult to qualify to |
1114s | uh many players dream just to play in a |
1117s | world championship you're already |
1118s | guaranteed uh that ten thousand dollars |
1121s | and it just moves up from there so uh |
1123s | everybody that has even made it to this |
1125s | stage the quarterfinals is already going |
1128s | going away with uh a good chunk of money |
1130s | but to be honest it it still doesn't |
1134s | feel good you know if you're losing the |
1135s | quarterfinals |
1137s | yeah sure you get a good a good amount |
1139s | of money but everybody wants to win the |
1142s | big prize now we're going to take a look |
1143s | at uh what's happened over the past |
1145s | couple days we kick things off on Friday |
1147s | with the first two groups |
1150s | in group a we saw yuyi and dead draw |
1152s | Advance over bly's and XC and uh that |
1157s | was an interesting group to watch I feel |
1160s | like bly's if I had to you know pick a |
1163s | favorite coming into the world |
1164s | championship before Dex Mission before |
1166s | anything I would have said I would put |
1168s | blies at the very least near the top of |
1171s | my list right in the top three for |
1173s | players that I would predict to win the |
1175s | World Championship |
1176s | um and uh didn't have a great showing |
1179s | didn't have a great showing no but |
1181s | they're all tough groups as is the |
1183s | cliche at World Championships One does |
1185s | not simply just rock up as TJ put it to |
1188s | the World Championships there's a lot of |
1190s | going into there so even if you are the |
1192s | 16th best player on the day at the World |
1193s | Championships you're still the 16th best |
1195s | player still pretty good going Group B |
1199s | absolute crazy group 10 world |
1202s | championship appearances between them so |
1204s | it was always going to be a shocker |
1206s | whoever missed out but shouty and yala |
1210s | coming through that group |
1212s | possibly and that includes Glory the |
1214s | world champion but possibly the most |
1216s | experienced two players of all the |
1218s | players in this group and that's a tough |
1220s | one to call but I'm going to go with |
1222s | that I think |
1223s | yeah I would say so and honestly there |
1226s | are two of the players that seem the |
1228s | hardest to beat to be honest uh yala |
1231s | specifically uh it's he always has like |
1235s | the the French outs on his mind right |
1239s | um and Raven has said it so I've all |
1241s | said it I said it in the road to worlds |
1242s | video for your Allah when he is winning |
1245s | he does the absolute bare minimum |
1247s | necessary |
1248s | to win any given game of hearthstone so |
1252s | uh it's he just feels like one of those |
1255s | players that you have to work extra hard |
1257s | against uh when you're playing against |
1259s | him in a high stakes match and that |
1262s | makes him a pretty frightening opponent |
1263s | but moving over to group C xmg and |
1266s | possessy coming out of the group |
1268s | possessi as a very rare opportunity here |
1272s | to win a Beckett World Championship in a |
1277s | row would be the first time that it's |
1278s | ever happened we came close last year |
1280s | with possessive defeating glory in the |
1283s | finals of the world championship in 2021 |
1285s | Glory coming off uh his win in 2020. |
1289s | we'll see if possesses going to be able |
1291s | to do that but xmg |
1293s | coming into this tournament probably one |
1296s | of the players that even though he's got |
1298s | the resume even though you know he's got |
1300s | the the game play down a player that was |
1304s | probably underestimated a bit even among |
1306s | the Chinese players I feel like xmg is |
1309s | the one that at least uh among like the |
1312s | Russian team |
1314s | we haven't seen as as much of this year |
1316s | or we tend to undervalue his |
1318s | performances maybe that's because he |
1319s | tends to lean towards aggressive decks |
1322s | and it's just this weird mental block |
1323s | that everybody has where they always |
1326s | undervalue players that uh that you know |
1329s | prioritize aggressive decks a player |
1331s | like frenetic comes to mind right where |
1333s | friends has had him had amazing seasons |
1336s | in your Grandmasters but his |
1339s | performances were always undervalued |
1340s | compared to like blies and and Gabby |
1342s | because he goes on for those aggressive |
1344s | decks so it's just kind of this weird |
1346s | thing but definitely a player to look |
1348s | out for in the quarterfinals Tokyo plays |
1350s | that are undervalued there's Levick |
1351s | there at the top of Group D undervalued |
1354s | mainly because Raven said he thought he |
1355s | was good very early on in the year |
1358s | um so we yeah if I even says they're |
1359s | good we've really got to be convinced |
1361s | you've got to play extra well to |
1363s | convince us that there are any good if |
1364s | Ravens picked you out but Raven was |
1367s | right it had to happen one day and |
1369s | Levick has proved to be incredibly |
1371s | underrated the last few tournaments |
1372s | since we've started paying more |
1374s | attention mainly so we could ridicule |
1376s | Raven the chance never came up because |
1377s | Levick has been playing incredibly well |
1379s | and then there's this bunny Hopper guy |
1381s | whoever he might be is he so I I |
1384s | mentioned earlier like favorites to win |
1386s | the World Championship but honestly like |
1388s | if I had to pick a player that was |
1389s | destined to win the World Championship I |
1392s | would have to say bunny Hopper yeah |
1394s | um it's the road for him to get to this |
1397s | point has been incredible he's had one |
1400s | of the best years any Hearthstone player |
1402s | could ever hope to achieve the best |
1403s | couple years not only in our system but |
1406s | also in uh Gold Series uh with Team |
1409s | Liquid |
1410s | um just individually and with his team |
1412s | has been spectacular and he's been here |
1414s | since the beginning since 20 winter |
1417s | championship of 2015. back that was the |
1421s | first time we had like sort of a a real |
1423s | quote-unquote real competitive system |
1425s | like a year-long competitive system yeah |
1428s | buddy Hopper was at the very first |
1429s | tournament of that and uh he hasn't |
1432s | given up since then so |
1435s | um I mean it's a good topic what can I |
1437s | say but let's take a look at some of the |
1438s | action we saw yesterday |
1440s | um take a look at uh possessing his one |
1444s | of the best series I've watched in a |
1445s | long time which was possessive versus |
1447s | Mighty incredibly close and in the very |
1451s | last game Mighty was about to escape his |
1454s | way to a victory and messy scammed it |
1457s | right back to take the series yeah |
1459s | Mighty was hard to himself on Twitter |
1461s | but mighty's had a fantastic year uh |
1464s | going straight through Grandma's first |
1466s | time of asking and should absolutely be |
1468s | proud of that performance overall on the |
1470s | year um I think he's |
1472s | will hold his head high when he's had |
1473s | time to reflect everyone's always a bit |
1474s | sad when they first get knocked out of |
1476s | any tournament would you wait |
1477s | tournaments are so hard right TJ because |
1479s | only one person can win and all the |
1481s | others feel sad at least for a while |
1483s | yeah that's right |
1486s | um and the world championship it just |
1490s | hits that much harder right because last |
1492s | event of the year uh higher Stakes |
1495s | because there's a bigger prize pool more |
1497s | Prestige you work so hard to get to this |
1500s | point right everybody at the beginning |
1501s | of any competitive arson year says I |
1504s | want to qualify to the world |
1505s | championship right that's the goal and |
1507s | then you make it there and you're kind |
1508s | of like well what's next well the only |
1510s | next logical step is winning the World |
1511s | Championship and so when you you know |
1514s | boil your entire competitive year down |
1517s | to that moment and you come up short |
1519s | that feels bad especially if you come in |
1521s | uh to the world championship with high |
1524s | confidence which you know most players |
1526s | tend to I think you've qualified for the |
1529s | world championship if you haven't got |
1530s | high confidence at that point you you |
1532s | really need to believe in yourself more |
1533s | right because you do that just by being |
1536s | there you've won a lot of things |
1537s | somewhere along the line yeah that's |
1540s | right and uh taking a look at the uh |
1543s | last matches that happened uh yesterday |
1545s | unfortunately pascoa the Last Hope of |
1547s | the Americas region |
1549s | uh was not able to get it done in the |
1551s | group |
1552s | um just it felt like unable to get it |
1554s | done with that death throttle Rogue and |
1556s | I feel like that's a dick that struggled |
1558s | a lot over the course of uh the week uh |
1563s | the different variations of the deck and |
1566s | it's unfortunate because I do think the |
1567s | deck is good it just has sort of like |
1569s | those you know built-in fail-saves where |
1572s | you just |
1577s | big stupid Dorsey patches yeah |
1580s | Invincible Invincible yeah big stupid |
1583s | horsey patches is absolutely the way I |
1586s | want to start my day with Hearthstone |
1587s | casting though yeah so there's our top |
1590s | eight we're gonna kick things off with |
1592s | you you versus yarla that's going to be |
1593s | our first match but all the way down the |
1595s | line |
1596s | it's just a goodie after goody of uh |
1601s | um of quarterfinal matches I think the |
1604s | one that I'd like to highlight |
1605s | specifically would be that third one |
1607s | shout out to you versus yeah after all |
1608s | two players that feel like they're in |
1610s | incredible form and uh you know probably |
1614s | two of the best Hearthstone tournament |
1616s | Players uh of all time right it's crazy |
1620s | to think that dead draw was never in but |
1623s | Grand Masters because you look at his |
1626s | stats and uh he just got |
1629s | um be by the system early on when he had |
1632s | some of his best performances uh one of |
1634s | the best runs in master tours of all |
1636s | time didn't end up qualifying to Grand |
1638s | Masters because it was based on money |
1639s | back then and money was weighted towards |
1640s | the winner uh of Masters tours and he'd |
1643s | only just started winning like the last |
1645s | three tournaments of 2018 he started |
1647s | racking up those HCT points as well but |
1650s | he didn't play in the first half of that |
1651s | year and if bunny Hopper is the player |
1653s | who should win this on storyline |
1655s | trajectory dead draw is the player who |
1658s | should win it on storyline |
1660s | um I know the hero like just can't get |
1663s | there just everything's against in the |
1665s | system all the way beating him down and |
1667s | then eventually comes through and wins |
1668s | the world championship that's where Dead |
1670s | draw's storyline comes from if he makes |
1671s | it through this but first off Yu Yi and |
1674s | yala are two players who have been |
1676s | around for a very long time as well uh |
1678s | y'all has not always looked this way he |
1680s | you know he's I used to bid in the last |
1682s | couple of years looking at image there |
1684s | um but he looks great I'm better than |
1685s | that |
1686s | that's what happens |
1689s | 1500 kilometers in a year |
1692s | and play warlock every tournament for |
1694s | all the years apart from this one yeah I |
1697s | feel like consumes you this year Yara |
1700s | just kind of um like he |
1703s | he turned the page in his book and was |
1706s | like I'm sick of playing control decks |
1709s | I'm gonna qualify the world championship |
1710s | playing board based aggro and I'm gonna |
1712s | come into this tournament |
1713s | uh playing |
1716s | Tempo joking aside maybe that's the |
1719s | final piece in the puzzle that he needs |
1721s | he's always been a little bit hamstrung |
1723s | by the fact that he'd turn up with his |
1725s | control decks even in meta games that |
1727s | didn't really Merit it and this year |
1730s | he's I mean he he's gone unnoticed he's |
1733s | gone under the radar because he |
1734s | qualified for World so early we kind of |
1736s | yeah y'all is in worlds let's forget him |
1738s | and talk about the other players now and |
1739s | this year he has been more much more |
1741s | willing than ever before to just go you |
1743s | know what I'm going to play the decks I |
1745s | need to play to win the tournament not |
1746s | the Decks that I'm good at that are |
1748s | Comfort picks which by the way if you're |
1750s | newer to tournaments you should play |
1752s | Comfort picks because you'll play a lot |
1753s | better and feel a lot better but y'all |
1755s | are finally going for the Decks that |
1757s | he's not so used to playing and because |
1760s | he's such a great player they are |
1761s | working out really well for him |
1764s | yeah we could take a look at UE stats |
1767s | there uh we were first introduced to you |
1769s | you only back in 2018. |
1772s | at one of the uh uh at the summer |
1774s | championship in 2018 uh fun fact with |
1778s | that tournament uh well not not so fun |
1781s | fact you did not do well |
1783s | a lot of this group incredibly quickly |
1785s | honestly in 2018 that pretty much every |
1788s | Chinese player had a lot of difficult in |
1789s | those global tournaments |
1791s | um but that one in particular uh shouty |
1794s | and Bunny Hopper were both in that |
1796s | Championship |
1798s | um and are both now in this top eight so |
1801s | that was ue's very first uh tournament |
1804s | at least uh in in part of like the HGT |
1808s | you know Global competitive Parson |
1810s | system |
1811s | very first one and now he's in a top |
1813s | eight World Championship with two |
1815s | players that were in that tournament |
1818s | kind of a crazy crazy fun fact for you |
1821s | this job is pretty crazy uh resume the |
1826s | Master's tour win rate's a little bit |
1827s | lower but again he he got qualified so |
1830s | early I think maybe he put his feet up |
1831s | for a couple of months honestly because |
1833s | he'd had a lot of years of top top |
1835s | quality play I think he may be rolled up |
1837s | to a couple of those tournaments and |
1838s | just played some Hearthstone and went |
1839s | away again |
1841s | um just getting ready for this event but |
1843s | reached The Grandmaster semi-finals six |
1845s | times in a row that is ridiculous |
1849s | it really is yeah and honestly the |
1852s | Master's tour win rate compared to a lot |
1854s | of the players in the field like that's |
1856s | probably what you're talking about just |
1857s | kind of yeah kicked his feet up but I |
1860s | always felt like yarla has done better |
1862s | in sort of these smaller events where |
1864s | the field is a little bit more |
1866s | predictable right uh than in Masters |
1869s | tours I feel like this is where strength |
1870s | lies that's why even when he was having |
1873s | poor performance in Masters tours he |
1874s | would turn around the next week in Grand |
1876s | Masters and you know win the week right |
1880s | so uh I I just feel like |
1884s | um this sort of tournament style fits |
1887s | his strength better but gonna be opening |
1889s | up with the ramp Druid the 30 card ramp |
1891s | Druid Neil you said you've been playing |
1893s | some of this deck yeah I like it so much |
1896s | more than the 40 card especially in this |
1898s | opening game where he's up against the |
1900s | Demon Hunter uh the 40 card deck is just |
1904s | not that good against Demon Hunter it |
1906s | sort of messes around it gets a bit |
1907s | awkward it makes some armor and then it |
1908s | dies horribly to a million damage but |
1911s | this can race it this can race the Demon |
1913s | Hunter and I I think that the Druid I'm |
1917s | not quite sure I'm prepared to say it's |
1919s | favored but it might be but against the |
1921s | Demon Hunter with 30 cards it's very |
1924s | close it's a really really good foot |
1926s | race to see you get that thing done |
1928s | first I think |
1930s | yeah this decking can get to its combo |
1933s | surprisingly quickly |
1936s | um and uh that's sort of where it's it's |
1938s | strength lies |
1940s | um so I'm excited to see how this is |
1944s | going to play out I still do think that |
1946s | Demon Hunter may have a slight Edge |
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1949s | um I tend to favorite Demon Hunter in |
1951s | just about every minute yeah I mean |
1953s | that's the thing that's my own personal |
1955s | bias I just think the deck is uh the |
1959s | absolutely bonkers |
1960s | uh in terms of its uh power level but uh |
1965s | we shall see uh Demon Hunter can have |
1967s | those draws where |
1969s | you have a lot of you have arcanaster |
1971s | Jace in in your opening and no ability |
1973s | to Discount those your combo takes a |
1975s | long time hand space gets awkward right |
1979s | you get to a point where you're holding |
1981s | on to non-reduced combo pieces and you |
1984s | can't you know Vault your Dimensions |
1986s | because you don't have the handspace |
1988s | forward so we'll see |
1990s | um |
1991s | but if you check stat sites you see that |
1993s | demon hunt against ramp Drew is like 42 |
1995s | uh sorry is the opposite yeah it's like |
1997s | 42 against the ramp dude I think that's |
1999s | even more magnified when it comes to 30 |
2003s | card Druid but obviously a lot of those |
2005s | stats have people who aren't very good |
2006s | at Demon Hunter involved so that brings |
2009s | it back the other way to quite a large |
2011s | degree because Demon Hunter |
2013s | it's straightforward enough to do quite |
2015s | well with the deck there's a lot of |
2016s | nuance in doing very well with the deck |
2019s | yeah it's it's not that hard of a deck |
2021s | to understand how to win right |
2023s | um but it's the small situation Sato had |
2025s | had some really good points on this |
2027s | yesterday when he was talking about the |
2028s | deck |
2029s | um like the like the learning like the |
2032s | damage break points and learning the win |
2035s | conditions like the deck is really |
2037s | straightforward there's not a little |
2038s | there's not a lot of flexibility with |
2040s | the deck but it's about understanding |
2042s | specific matchups when you can be |
2045s | liberal with your uh your spell damage |
2047s | and your your burst Bells when do you |
2049s | need to get greedy that type of thing |
2050s | when you pressure Relic Vault when you |
2053s | need to pressure with phantasms as |
2054s | opposed to Holding On To The Relic ball |
2056s | charge and get greedy with Dimensions or |
2058s | if you need for removal like those those |
2060s | things but as far as like knowing how to |
2063s | win with the deck yeah you just get a |
2065s | bunch of burst and spell damage and you |
2067s | play it all in a turn that part's easy |
2069s | anyone on this Druid which is basically |
2071s | a combo deck I don't like the title of |
2073s | amp Druid for this because it's just |
2075s | combo Druid to me there are other ways |
2076s | you can win with the ramp it makes sense |
2078s | the name isn't completely wrong or |
2080s | anything |
2081s | but really it's a combo deck in the 30 |
2083s | card format you don't have the |
2086s | the topiazole and all that sort of stuff |
2088s | going on so you do have to basically win |
2090s | with big stuff and your big stuff is |
2092s | basically the combo uh just in case you |
2094s | just fire a bunch of four sixes onto the |
2096s | board and win that way or whatever but |
2097s | yeah or six sixes depending on your |
2099s | build |
2101s | and yala has missed the turn three ramp |
2104s | which is gonna irritate him but at least |
2106s | he's got into a Jerry rig into some |
2108s | nourishes uh the more pressing matter |
2111s | even though he has |
2113s | two of the combo pieces he has no search |
2117s | so hasn't got that Moon lit hasn't got |
2118s | that aquatic form to find the brand |
2120s | which is the third and final piece of |
2122s | the combo or of what he needs or the |
2124s | fourth and final if you count the |
2125s | Earthen scales so yala is ready to combo |
2128s | off pretty soon |
2130s | yeah which is crazy the thing you used |
2132s | to a ways away uh sort of what I was |
2135s | talking about where Jason arcanists are |
2138s | in hand without their ability to be |
2140s | reduced |
2142s | um Unleashed felt and fell barrage also |
2144s | on the far left with no way to be |
2146s | reduced there's a relic of dimensions in |
2149s | hand but there's no Vault no relics have |
2152s | been cast so far so just casting a relic |
2155s | of Dimensions as your first Relic on 5 |
2157s | is not particularly Strong by itself it |
2160s | doesn't even complete the first part of |
2162s | the quest so uh |
2164s | yeah and you've lost a relative |
2166s | dimensions is the important part when |
2168s | you have to do that like one of your two |
2169s | relics is your win condition most of the |
2171s | time uh you draw four reduce the costs |
2174s | and those cards bring you the game |
2175s | because you've got a good density of |
2177s | things to hit if you've used one of your |
2179s | relics just to keep going and |
2181s | the way it's going for you you might |
2183s | have to just do that next turn you don't |
2184s | have that much time against Druid and |
2187s | next turn he will have seen the nourish |
2189s | uh be ramped so |
2191s | he will know he's going to get a move on |
2193s | if he doesn't draw into something good |
2194s | next turn he might just have to play The |
2195s | Relic for draw two for five Mana |
2199s | and with that in mind he should probably |
2200s | get this sigil out here right now yeah I |
2203s | wouldn't even mind casting uh the Fel |
2205s | barrage while you have the Mana |
2208s | um probably gonna have to go fast and |
2210s | especially with the non-discounted |
2212s | architis in hand and non-discounted Jace |
2214s | betting that Mana now uh could be worth |
2217s | it uh down the line obviously wouldn't |
2219s | be able to fit it in the combo but you |
2221s | have no guarantee that you're going to |
2222s | be able to even cast that with spell |
2223s | damage at a reasonable point in the game |
2225s | so |
2227s | um keeping hand space in mind I wouldn't |
2229s | even mind just you know hero power sigil |
2232s | barrage and then here apart face in this |
2235s | instance |
2238s | okay it's the first day of the last day |
2241s | of Worlds and both players are going to |
2243s | be nervous but no plays fearing this |
2246s | pop-off from their opponent already you |
2248s | can see the worry on their face that's |
2250s | not just like tournament nerves that's |
2251s | oh my goodness my opponent's gonna kill |
2253s | me in a moment no from both players it's |
2255s | great to see yeah so getting uh so this |
2259s | is a sort of a similar play of making |
2261s | hand space Also the sigil |
2264s | um if you're casting relative dimensions |
2266s | on five the sigil is still pretty good |
2268s | because you get the automatic Quest |
2269s | completion |
2271s | um but |
2274s | leaving that for a bigger turn |
2277s | could be worthwhile as well like getting |
2279s | like an extra discount on it right |
2282s | um |
2282s | and the potential to get Double |
2284s | Discounts on certain things with if |
2286s | you're playing uh like sigil plus a big |
2289s | draw turn instead of just the relative |
2292s | dimensions I don't know |
2294s | if you're new to yala have a good look |
2296s | at what he's done for the last 30 |
2297s | seconds |
2300s | I I've already hit the two two and I've |
2302s | just moved on with my life y'all are |
2303s | working out if you actually really needs |
2304s | to hit this tutu he's going to be |
2306s | playing taylon possibly next turn or |
2308s | Miracle growth um in some worlds as well |
2311s | so it doesn't need to hit it spends |
2313s | forever thinking about it and preserves |
2315s | two Health in his mind by not doing that |
2317s | because he's going to deal with it a |
2319s | different way most of the time yeah um |
2322s | oh |
2326s | okay that is a benefit of last turn you |
2329s | can net some damage of this with this |
2331s | fell barrage knowing that |
2333s | Irish was going to be played last turn |
2335s | uh that has to be the plan but drawing |
2338s | The Relic Vault may change things |
2342s | um especially considering if you Relic |
2344s | Vault and sigil |
2346s | then next turn you get the discounts on |
2349s | all of the uh all four of the dimension |
2352s | draws plus the sigil draw so I think he |
2356s | wanted in case he didn't draw onto |
2357s | anything be able to have the spell |
2358s | damage on board to cast that Bell |
2360s | barrage next turn and you know turn four |
2363s | damage into eight damage knowing that |
2365s | nourish was going to be the card |
2367s | but instead decides to deviate because |
2369s | you can't really pass up getting that |
2371s | Vault and schedule online for the relic |
2373s | of dimensions and big discounts next |
2375s | turn |
2376s | you ought to decide whether he wants to |
2378s | take time out to play this under King |
2379s | now just to get rid of the tutu this is |
2381s | what he thought about last term when he |
2382s | was thinking about the attack with the |
2384s | hero power so long uh he think he's |
2386s | going to draw Guff he may have attacked |
2388s | into the minion of course but that's |
2389s | what the long think is for working out |
2391s | how many times he's going to attack it |
2392s | but how many times he's not and so this |
2395s | is a turn off for yala which is |
2397s | obviously imitating |
2399s | um but after this turn he's free to go |
2403s | the arm is relevant as well like Demon |
2405s | Hunter we always talk about the infinite |
2406s | damage but the infinite damage is |
2408s | definitely harder than 40 damage which |
2411s | is definitely harder than 20 damage it |
2412s | is a thing yeah it's infinite damage if |
2414s | you have infinite time right like yeah |
2417s | if you can line up everything and get |
2419s | spell damage dump all your spells and |
2422s | then Jason the same turn |
2424s | it's it's a million it's like not in the |
2427s | 90s |
2429s | um |
2431s | oh |
2432s | okay |
2433s | the double discounted uh Guild Trader |
2437s | is going to be quite good one Mana |
2440s | but other than that |
2442s | the rest of the stuff is okay still a |
2445s | lot of damage with Guild Trader double |
2447s | Fury chaos strike Mark of score yes I'll |
2450s | be going to be played in the same turn |
2452s | yeah it depends on |
2456s | what yala does next in terms of armor |
2458s | because it might just be a case of |
2460s | setting that up next turn and then just |
2461s | go with the chase it might just be |
2463s | lethal |
2471s | just using the Relic to set up any |
2473s | future relics more than anything there |
2475s | oh wow it's so close to winning has he |
2480s | got time to Guff |
2482s | uh |
2487s | you can ramp and Guff |
2490s | I think now he's ramped though yeah okay |
2492s | that's fine yeah uh which is the double |
2495s | ramp he gains the armor he's got lethal |
2498s | next turn |
2500s | um unless |
2506s | if he's alive he needs to be alive |
2514s | he needs to have armor |
2518s | he just he well he plays a new pecan you |
2522s | play the brand first and then an ubercon |
2524s | yeah exactly all Earth and scales works |
2526s | as well but yeah or the scales works as |
2528s | well yeah but I think you're right to |
2530s | highlight that because a lot of people |
2531s | do just miss out the extra Mana before |
2533s | they get their armor yeah he he's he's |
2536s | ramped enough at this point giving |
2538s | himself enough Mana to be able to have |
2540s | some wiggle room there but yes the Earth |
2541s | and skills would also do it yeah |
2544s | um |
2546s | guess why I changed my mind when I said |
2548s | it was that brown was the third piece of |
2549s | the combo at the start of the game then |
2551s | I changed it to Fourth piece because the |
2552s | urban scales is kind of the fourth piece |
2554s | or one of the four pieces sometimes yeah |
2557s | or like under King with something to |
2559s | trade into right like yeah |
2562s | it's it's a wavy fourth piece yeah it's |
2567s | under king or something to trade into |
2568s | it's just a net five |
2572s | uh five armor |
2575s | yeah you're putting 10 Health on the |
2577s | board but this is an absolute bajillion |
2580s | damage |
2584s | it's a bajillion |
2595s | it's so silly |
2599s | x64 noob |
2608s | somebody told you this is I was like oh |
2610s | he's not gonna have the armor |
2614s | I was assuming that you you would chip |
2616s | off more of the armor on the previous |
2618s | turn uh but didn't like I was assuming |
2621s | he would go like Guild Trader because he |
2622s | wouldn't have had armor to go double ask |
2624s | the Lord |
2625s | uh but he wouldn't have needed double |
2627s | astalor if uh Yugi had gone for the |
2630s | spell damage because there wouldn't have |
2631s | been enough Health on board right so uh |
2634s | yeah and that's a like you said it's a |
2636s | race right |
2638s | um to be able to find those pieces and |
2641s | you still the draw was a little bit slow |
2644s | but it wasn't the slowest got to Relic |
2646s | Vault dimensions on six |
2649s | um the problem was right The Arcanist |
2652s | didn't get like double reduced uh spell |
2655s | damage cards didn't have like the the |
2657s | ideal uh set of draws in order to make |
2660s | that happen so |
2662s | um and yarla showcasing what that Druid |
2665s | Deck is capable of with running only 30 |
2667s | cards means you're going to hit those |
2669s | combo pieces |
2671s | a lot more often very quickly |
2674s | yeah it's just a totally different game |
2676s | to having 40 cards this was a kind of |
2679s | exceptional in the way that it happened |
2680s | because it all came off the top he |
2681s | didn't have to use the moonlits or |
2682s | anything for it but I guess if you're |
2684s | not drawing your moonlits and you're not |
2686s | drawing your forms you're allowed to |
2688s | actually just draw the combo instead |
2690s | because it's got to be replaced with |
2691s | something but now the deck that |
2695s | absolutely nutty on it is shark Rogue |
2698s | yeah this deck is |
2701s | um |
2702s | y'all just played all combo it's kind of |
2704s | funny to see because that's sort of not |
2706s | been his Mo over the past three years |
2710s | um and most of grand Masters last year |
2712s | he would play some sort of combo style |
2714s | decks but mostly played like control or |
2717s | anti-combo those types of things |
2720s | um he was like the uh |
2725s | what do you call it |
2727s | uh I don't know the the antagonist of |
2731s | Europe Grand Masters every week |
2734s | yeah yeah yeah that's fine |
2736s | um in terms of uh his lineup versus |
2738s | everybody else's |
2740s | um whereas now you know he he's trying |
2744s | to be the hero he's absolutely a hero |
2746s | with this deck and he proved it in the |
2749s | in the group stage right up against |
2750s | pressure uh he needed to do 20 something |
2754s | with his Drucker and he just did it he |
2757s | he waited and waited and he knew he was |
2759s | going to do it he knew how much damage |
2761s | he had and I think it was 24 he ended up |
2764s | doing and he needed to do 21 or 22 and |
2768s | he he chipped away he knew that I can't |
2771s | believe he was against me he knew that |
2772s | he needed to do four or five damage of |
2773s | Chip damage to get into range and then |
2775s | he just won the game and I wouldn't be |
2777s | surprised to see something very very |
2779s | similar here it was against Demon Hunter |
2781s | I think where it's like do you want to |
2783s | heal do you want to heal for four really |
2784s | do you yeah the player one three do you |
2787s | want to heal for five |
2788s | those are the decisions you have to make |
2790s | when you're playing against this deck |
2791s | though because their reach is insane uh |
2794s | early on in the game |
2796s | um and sometimes they don't even give |
2798s | you cues that like on the turn that |
2800s | they're gonna pop off |
2802s | um you know |
2804s | like preemptively throwing the uh |
2807s | forsaken the tenant on the board sure |
2809s | like that's a cue right like yeah |
2811s | football graveyard's up lieutenants on |
2813s | the board sure right that's a that's a |
2816s | big one |
2817s | um but sometimes they just have the |
2819s | cards in hand to be able to do it from |
2822s | hand and still have enough reach to get |
2824s | there I can't imagine bringing this deck |
2827s | to a world championship because the |
2830s | amount of pressure on you to perfectly |
2833s | perform every action with you know less |
2838s | than half a second to make each decision |
2840s | is unfathomable like we've seen people |
2844s | mess up curve Paladin before let alone |
2847s | 27 action Rogue that just cause the |
2850s | pressure my goodness yeah like like we |
2853s | saw who was it was it blies like trade |
2856s | or play a guild Trader instead of |
2858s | trading it |
2859s | oh yeah on turn one he he played he |
2862s | played the weapon |
2863s | oh the Blackwater Cutlass yeah yeah one |
2867s | weapon is in play Let's go like with |
2869s | with one man available you're making one |
2871s | action to turn we see we see people mess |
2873s | that up now imagine you multiply that by |
2877s | you know 25 |
2879s | and you have a split second to play you |
2882s | know each card how much room there is |
2885s | for air you have to be incredibly |
2886s | accurate for a player that's normally |
2888s | used to taking his time thinking through |
2890s | every every action uh in the Arla this |
2893s | deck is is crazy to me that it's uh that |
2897s | it's been able to do that so we'll see |
2899s | if uh he can get it done but it is going |
2901s | to be the Demon Hunter once again for yi |
2903s | I believe I see it queued up on my handy |
2906s | dandy |
2907s | and I think this is another race and I |
2909s | think once again maybe the demon Hunt is |
2910s | just fractionally unfavored |
2913s | um depending on maybe you will have |
2916s | learned from watching yala play it in |
2918s | the group right he'll have seen that and |
2919s | seen that yala was like getting into the |
2922s | low 20s and maybe you you will heal up |
2924s | preemptively |
2926s | I just saw Garlic's opening hand I can |
2928s | see a split second faster |
2931s | you'll see it in a moment oh I'm excited |
2936s | still excited |
2938s | I'm maintaining the excitement |
2940s | oh my goodness look at this opening hand |
2943s | TJ look he's got two sharks a shadow |
2945s | shambler and he can decide to keep the |
2948s | auction here as well I think although |
2949s | I'm not one you don't want them you |
2950s | don't want the second shark I think |
2952s | because you haven't actually keep the |
2953s | first shark but you want one from the |
2956s | sketchy |
2958s | um and you don't want to leave both |
2959s | sketchy stranded I would even yeah |
2961s | sharks it does make sense |
2964s | um and then you look for uh sketchy uh |
2967s | forsaken Lieutenant that kind of thing I |
2969s | saw a rose pop up and use him though |
2973s | um |
2975s | we did see that the graveyard is sorry |
2979s | I'm going to be very careful the the |
2982s | graveyard that doubles your death |
2984s | battles |
2986s | yeah is is not as important early as you |
2988s | may think I think the yala didn't use it |
2991s | on the first shark and did use it on the |
2992s | second shark last time |
2995s | and then there's a seven Stone graveyard |
2996s | which just is in the deck |
3000s | [Music] |
3003s | relaxed |
3008s | foreign |
3011s | way both sharks is just playing the deck |
3014s | a lot I think instinctively I only keep |
3015s | one and I was like excited about two |
3016s | because the deck the hand looks so good |
3018s | but obviously you throw away one of them |
3019s | but throwing away both |
3021s | something that he did pretty quickly |
3022s | there I think he knows the deck is more |
3024s | likely than not to get that one back |
3026s | this hasn't happened yet you can get one |
3029s | back or you play you play double loan |
3032s | shark in double sketching information |
3034s | yes |
3036s | um and double shroud like you you don't |
3040s | necessarily want to keep those cheap |
3042s | those minions because |
3044s | then that just strands the other spells |
3047s | uh that fetch minions in your deck |
3049s | specifically the sketches because the |
3051s | shrouds are usually gonna are always |
3052s | gonna have something to draw right like |
3055s | Draka |
3056s | it's always the Paradox of combo decks |
3058s | through the years isn't it if you're new |
3059s | to the game freeze Mage for instance you |
3061s | throw away all the pieces of your deck |
3063s | that win you the game and go for all the |
3065s | things that draw those cards at first |
3066s | it's like well why don't you just keep |
3068s | the things that win the game |
3069s | but over time you realize like you've |
3071s | just described you get so many dead |
3072s | draws if you do that there's that guy |
3074s | again dead draw yeah but uh you have to |
3077s | do it all seemingly backwards until |
3079s | you've done it a few times then it |
3081s | becomes incredibly clear that's what you |
3082s | should do turn your deadrise a genius |
3085s | right |
3087s | no I was lyrics |
3089s | All the Time |
3094s | so with that in mind who's got the the |
3096s | worst name who never gets free promotion |
3099s | out of their name because buddy Hopper |
3100s | probably gets a tiny bit for instance |
3102s | yarla |
3106s | yala |
3108s | isn't that just how Texans say everybody |
3113s | Darla |
3115s | y'all uh yeah |
3118s | you're a bunch of idiots |
3121s | okay here you go yeah you only gets free |
3124s | promotion in Texas |
3126s | [Laughter] |
3131s | you're right there you go I'm not sure |
3133s | about Blazers do you blaze anything |
3138s | close enough to like Blaze I don't know |
3141s | lies in your Trail a trailblizer all |
3143s | right yeah see |
3146s | if it's free promotion in Hearthstone |
3147s | that's how it works as we look at MG |
3149s | Maybe |
3150s | xng because that's a |
3154s | it's just a really big car |
3156s | yeah well SMG is like submachine gun |
3160s | that's in a lot of games right like Call |
3163s | of Duty yep yeah absolutely I can say |
3165s | that because it's Activision |
3167s | I know I know |
3169s | I'm with you |
3171s | I was I was watching like navigate that |
3173s | mind games |
3175s | other card games world champion in other |
3178s | card games |
3181s | yeah never mentioned the other card |
3183s | games |
3186s | oh no so everybody's getting free |
3188s | promotion so dead draw is not a genius |
3189s | it's just what everybody does yeah |
3194s | gets promotion every Easter |
3199s | because that's what it means apparently |
3205s | that's a fun fact he and Ming sounds |
3207s | like a soap star |
3211s | Glory gets mentioned you know every |
3214s | World Championships because the glory of |
3215s | winning |
3216s | Abu gabu there you go |
3220s | um how does Habu gabu uh yeah I was |
3223s | going through an order but subtle |
3225s | it's given to spoilers how do you have |
3226s | your Gabby anything |
3229s | turn five TJ come on wake up |
3231s | I know this has been uh |
3234s | uh Slim Pickens in terms of cool things |
3236s | to do for both players once again you |
3239s | face with the decision this is like this |
3241s | hand is like ah just Jace again double |
3246s | undiscounted furies |
3249s | a one discount on AFL barrage but the |
3252s | other one's in hand that's full cost I |
3253s | mean he has the dimensions you can't |
3255s | just sit here and hold on to everything |
3257s | all right chaos strike okay need for |
3259s | greed |
3261s | yeah |
3264s | that's the case right now so you can |
3265s | play the knees degree cheaper more |
3268s | cheaply |
3269s | yep and now yala |
3272s | not a bunch of bad cards right now in |
3274s | his hand |
3275s | [Laughter] |
3278s | oh geez what have we done that's good |
3284s | oh no he's gonna just make graveyard |
3287s | people |
3297s | I mean he could go like coin auctioneer |
3303s | prep bone Spike |
3306s | okay I like it graveyard and then touch |
3309s | both graveyards but |
3311s | what I like about that it doesn't feel |
3313s | like it's really doing anything and you |
3315s | use one of your coins it does mean that |
3319s | your opponent has to deal with your |
3320s | Auctioneer rather than doing their own |
3321s | game plan next turn though sure yeah and |
3324s | I know you might not interrupt it much |
3326s | but it they're looking at an Auctioneer |
3328s | going oh I lose if I leave this up yeah |
3330s | I think I might wait though oh uh and |
3334s | just throw out the graveyard right now |
3335s | because there's a potential that he |
3337s | could have |
3339s | is there a potential that you can have a |
3341s | lot of Mana next turn |
3342s | yes |
3344s | um oh actually is there |
3347s | it would have to be gadgets and |
3349s | auctioneer |
3350s | coin |
3352s | like draw into |
3355s | the other graveyards perhaps sketchy |
3357s | draws into prep then you prep bone Spike |
3360s | yeah and and play the shark that you got |
3364s | from the sketchy because he stole the |
3365s | shadow shampooer active so it'd be two |
3367s | Mana it would kill kill itself right |
3368s | away yeah but then you'd stop there it |
3370s | would just be giant graveyard minions |
3373s | you wouldn't have like Draka you |
3374s | wouldn't have Mana for Draka but maybe |
3376s | giant graveyard mints are enough |
3378s | ah nah they're probably not that's |
3380s | because at this point those guys how |
3382s | child can play you're gonna have pretty |
3384s | big extinctions right |
3385s | yeah I think it depends how giant is |
3387s | whether they're not going to win you the |
3388s | game but they might buy you a turn and |
3390s | the turn might be enough with an auction |
3392s | in playing stuff so I I think he has to |
3395s | do it just because he might die if he |
3397s | doesn't like even just putting stuff in |
3400s | the way |
3400s | of uh potential bursts because even |
3403s | though we can see you use hand y'all are |
3405s | just to use |
3406s | all right there's a good chunk of |
3407s | discounted cards in the hand there's one |
3409s | two three discounted cards in the hand |
3412s | and seven Mana would be available to you |
3415s | next turn like if it's discounted spell |
3417s | damage plus like double fell barrage |
3419s | right yep and there's views getting some |
3422s | chip damage in with these Furies and |
3424s | these chaos strikes uh you're always |
3426s | going to be sub 20 Health going to the |
3428s | next turn |
3429s | that's not really a safe place to be so |
3432s | yeah I think Garlic's got to go this |
3434s | turn and just hope it gets there |
3439s | uh Jewel makes a huge difference |
3441s | obviously but you just got access next |
3443s | turn to Guild Trader Relic vault |
3447s | relative for graveyard is a card that |
3450s | will help in some worlds here |
3453s | obviously yeah I didn't know the |
3454s | Mulligan they should have kept one of |
3455s | the Sharks huh that's how it works |
3457s | that's how maths Works TJ |
3461s | that's how hindsight works |
3464s | okay |
3468s | my goodness he's doing everything but |
3470s | what he needs |
3479s | gotta go prep looking for sketchy |
3483s | there it is sketchy |
3487s | uh we'll overdraw |
3490s | I don't know he had a very quick glance |
3492s | at how far through the turn he was there |
3494s | now he's just going he's got to decide |
3496s | to put the brakes on or whether to go I |
3498s | think he's too late I don't think he can |
3499s | go he's got to chill |
3502s | just just make some cards happen now and |
3505s | make some big ghosts and hope your |
3506s | opponent can't kill them do what you |
3508s | described at the start of the turn |
3515s | don't overdraw anything |
3521s | this sets up lethal what could go wrong |
3528s | um so this is lethal if uh Mark of scorn |
3532s | does not hit a minion |
3535s | wow |
3538s | potions uh so you have to Fury first or |
3541s | attack first right |
3543s | so you unleash then you Fury hit face |
3546s | huh |
3552s | or it's again it's you don't even have |
3555s | yeah you don't even have to you can |
3557s | Relic first because that'll clear the |
3559s | board |
3560s | and then you mark him scoring if it |
3562s | doesn't hit a minion it's lethal yeah |
3566s | and very nice dude |
3569s | 1-1 in this first quarterfinal are you |
3574s | taking one back yeah and |
3580s | I don't know so maybe you're always |
3581s | supposed to keep a shark I I mean it's a |
3584s | sample size of one that's the problem |
3585s | I'm going to defer to the fact that |
3587s | y'all has played this thousands of times |
3589s | and I haven't I played it quite a bit |
3591s | actually but not in this matter |
3593s | uh but Ryan seems to keep a shark but |
3595s | I'm just going to go with the person |
3596s | who's played it a lot knows |
3598s | instinctively that they should on |
3599s | average draw a sketchy except for that |
3602s | yeah I mean if you look at like uh |
3605s | Mulligan win raids for the deck shark is |
3607s | one of the worst |
3609s | but with that specific combination right |
3615s | that's where you have to kind of |
3618s | yeah I can guess yourself also there's |
3620s | not a huge sample size |
3623s | uh of Mulligan win rate for this |
3626s | specific instance of the deck right no |
3628s | nobody plays this version uh |
3632s | Everybody Plays the mailbox dancer |
3635s | stenographer Frost wolf Warlords uh |
3638s | Draka version of the deck because it's |
3639s | kind of got that in between where it's |
3640s | not all in on Draka |
3643s | um |
3643s | or it does have some other minions you |
3645s | have some other options |
3647s | in order to do that and then there's |
3650s | this |
3651s | and then there's this |
3653s | good old-fashioned mine Rogue |
3658s | with illusionists thrown in for good |
3660s | measure |
3664s | yep |
3665s | what it is The Illusionist just makes so |
3667s | much sense |
3669s | um because you double up on |
3673s | like us sketchy information |
3677s | and we've just seen why you might want |
3678s | to do that |
3679s | yeah so like you're sketching |
3681s | information you get a Scourge |
3682s | Illusionist you also get another one of |
3685s | your death rattles right like and |
3688s | sometimes having access to a cheaper |
3690s | version of the death rattles |
3692s | specifically burning blade acolyte like |
3695s | having access to a one-mana burning |
3696s | blade acolyte |
3698s | um |
3699s | is actually really important in a lot of |
3701s | situations to be able to Convoy a lot |
3704s | easier with like a graveyard plus like |
3707s | Shadow sampler or even forsaken |
3710s | Lieutenant so and y'all is going to move |
3712s | over to the quest felt Demon Hunter I |
3715s | feel like the miracle Rogue that |
3717s | matchup's got to be very difficult |
3720s | um yeah into the death rattle Rogue |
3722s | because as soon as they get a taunt down |
3723s | like |
3725s | you got away from the Jabs before you do |
3727s | anything and then you've got to do it |
3729s | all again and then you've got to do it |
3731s | all again so uh that's a matchup that I |
3734s | think yala wants to avoid so he's going |
3736s | to go over to Quest fell Demon Hunter |
3738s | try and get a win with that one first |
3739s | and then to make sure that he has two |
3741s | Chances with the Rogue |
3744s | uh electronics yep meltronics thrown in |
3747s | there |
3748s | in place of is running uh none none of |
3752s | the mark of scorn still two need for |
3755s | greed still chaos strike still still two |
3757s | spectral strikes and that was spectral |
3760s | sights straight to site that was a |
3762s | talking point in the groups as well uh |
3765s | yala three games basically struggled |
3768s | with draw and |
3770s | the feel factor of cutting just one uh |
3775s | draw card |
3776s | into does that really matter what it |
3778s | matters because of snowball but how much |
3780s | and so on that's going to be a thing |
3781s | that carries on here because he's not |
3783s | just cut a draw card it's worth |
3785s | remembering that everybody had already |
3787s | cut a draw card from the really smooth |
3789s | version of this deck to to get the spell |
3791s | damage more smooth he's got another draw |
3794s | card on top of that and at some point |
3797s | another gets too much and it's very hard |
3800s | to quantify win rate stats don't reflect |
3803s | drawer cards accurately for various |
3804s | reasons and so it is very much a feel |
3808s | thing that he's happy cutting that X1 |
3810s | for meltronics of all things that boy |
3819s | meanwhile you yeah why he has the thing |
3824s | always a question for me whether you |
3826s | keep trickster or smoke screen if you |
3827s | only have one of them on the draw I |
3829s | think on the play you just don't |
3831s | but on the play he's got them both so he |
3833s | hasn't got that to worry about he's just |
3834s | gonna keep him |
3845s | this is the Juice by the way |
3847s | yeah |
3848s | really is oh hit the smoke screen |
3851s | unlucky |
3854s | yeah yeah if he hits the yeah take our |
3860s | next turn coin trickster and then he |
3863s | driv |
3866s | es now he's gonna have to wait until |
3867s | turn four that's just horrible imagine |
3870s | doing a combo on turn four |
3876s | yeah it's a fury to speed up the |
3878s | spectral site for next turn looks |
3880s | sensible could just sigil hero power but |
3884s | I guess having extra Mana to throw |
3885s | something in because you can for your |
3888s | respectful side next turn but I guess |
3889s | spending the Mana now is |
3892s | worthwhile |
3894s | yeah that feel is not going to be the |
3896s | life and death for winning the game |
3897s | later you're not getting to turn eight |
3899s | where you might Fury for zero and Jason |
3901s | or something it's all happening one way |
3903s | or the other before that yeah and this |
3906s | to me come |
3907s | I was just gonna say you could miss out |
3909s | on one damage by not here repairing this |
3910s | turn if all you cast is a spectral side |
3912s | next turn but let's say spectral side |
3914s | hits |
3915s | Relic fault relic of dimensions |
3918s | and discounts them right then you can |
3920s | play The Relic ball with your one extra |
3922s | Mana next turn and then go turn four |
3924s | relative dimensions with the Vault so |
3926s | this opens up more possibilities you |
3927s | might have IP you just want to trade |
3929s | away something like that as well sure |
3933s | uh for me |
3935s | a lot of people don't like combo and |
3937s | combo matchups they say it's just sort |
3939s | of not interactive but it's not |
3940s | interactive in the sense of Yetis |
3941s | hitting into each other and leaving a |
3943s | 4-1 on the board but we've described in |
3946s | all three of these games a lot of sort |
3948s | of mental interactions like do I go now |
3950s | what's my opponent doing what Clues can |
3952s | I pick up from what my opponent has done |
3953s | and yeah that's another fascinating |
3955s | aspect of hearthstone that I think |
3956s | people sometimes Overlook when they're |
3958s | talking about interactivity it's a |
3960s | different way of describing it for me |
3963s | this sort of stuff is fascinating |
3966s | and I will say that when I'm on my own |
3968s | little stream playing games as well it's |
3970s | not just because I'm here casting |
3979s | they're deciding what to do here the |
3981s | unleash fell not something he wants to |
3984s | burn so easily |
3986s | um to get to that second spectral site |
3988s | but don't really want to trade away the |
3990s | need for greed either because it's |
3992s | a card he just wants to cast next turn |
3997s | um |
3999s | I think it costs four so you would have |
4003s | to dump the Unleashed fell if you wanted |
4004s | to go for a second Quest completion next |
4007s | turn because you'd have to spectral side |
4008s | as well |
4013s | trade it it's really hard actually |
4016s | that is really hard |
4019s | my instinct would say cast it |
4022s | but you always got different instincts |
4024s | well has he like was his Instinct almost |
4027s | at the car seat and he spent 45 seconds |
4029s | talking himself out of it that's also |
4030s | possible here my I would be wow my |
4033s | instinct is to cast this and then I'd |
4034s | spend 45 seconds thinking about |
4041s | at the end of the turn anyway yeah |
4046s | sit there for 45 seconds trying to work |
4047s | out how to fit Habu gabu into daily |
4049s | conversation |
4051s | and then cast it |
4054s | um |
4057s | okay then |
4059s | gotta mine |
4064s | beforehand yeah forehand you pack stab |
4068s | your tutu like I think so I don't know |
4071s | though because the backstab could be |
4072s | really important |
4074s | I think that I think he's counting sort |
4076s | of the ways this can go wrong if he |
4078s | backstabs how much he needs the other |
4079s | one to backstabbing mine later and how |
4082s | many ways it burns things he doesn't |
4083s | want I think he's weighing up those two |
4085s | one of those things is better than the |
4087s | other and that's that's the mental |
4089s | gymnastics he's trying to do right now I |
4090s | think the backstab is important let's |
4092s | see next turn you could counterfeit |
4094s | blade an attack face right |
4098s | um then it would be uh |
4101s | oh you need six Mana to do it yeah I |
4103s | think you need to backstab so he has a |
4106s | kill on turn six |
4107s | guaranteed right you load up the |
4111s | counterfeit blade okay next turn you go |
4114s | uh snowfall graveyard shatter shambler |
4118s | and then on the the next turn you go |
4122s | um attack with the weapon forsaken |
4124s | Lieutenant Mine backstab The Forsaken |
4127s | lieutenant |
4131s | that's 28 yeah in one turn |
4135s | Ed a lot eight damage from the cap our |
4138s | four damage from the counterfeit blade |
4141s | um |
4143s | 24 damage from the mines because it'd be |
4145s | eight damage you'd be getting three mind |
4147s | procs |
4148s | uh doubled from the snowfall graveyard |
4150s | but then he wouldn't be yeah yeah no |
4152s | that would be it so it'd be a kill on |
4153s | turn six |
4156s | if there he has 28 damage yeah and if he |
4160s | needs oh no he hasn't he has enough Mana |
4162s | for Wicked step too because that would |
4163s | cost two so yeah turn six is again is is |
4166s | 32 damage he has 32 damage on turn six |
4169s | with the setup run go quicker |
4173s | now y'all is desperately trying to find |
4176s | out how to go quicker |
4178s | I think his plan from here would be to |
4180s | try and set up turn seven Jace win with |
4182s | some |
4184s | damage spaced in between |
4187s | not so long about double the backstab |
4189s | and discard your back step anyway |
4193s | so yeah |
4194s | this is lined up nicely for you next |
4197s | turn he just needs to make sure he gets |
4198s | Shadow shambler played in a snowfall |
4200s | graveyard played |
4202s | and then hope he doesn't die yeah so |
4204s | Jala's plan next turn is possibly just |
4206s | Guild Trader unleash |
4208s | then Relic the turn after because you've |
4210s | got more chance of getting it with the |
4211s | phantasms and just go for it |
4215s | does damage will stick so the guild |
4216s | Trader Unleashed damage is is some |
4218s | damage that will just stick on the face |
4221s | yeah the |
4225s | yarala is going to see the |
4228s | next turn it's probably going to be |
4229s | meltronics because you're always going |
4231s | to see like Shadow shambler snowfall |
4233s | graveyard Etc yeah and he knows there's |
4236s | a mine in hand |
4239s | and he knows that the counterfeit blade |
4240s | has a mine in it so he's going to do |
4243s | that in order to |
4245s | it's funny because that it would still |
4248s | be lethal for yui |
4251s | if he picks up a dumpable card next turn |
4255s | oh this Extinction is potentially big so |
4258s | he plays melatonix and um |
4261s | the other Relic he doesn't need |
4263s | maltronics this turn |
4265s | I don't think |
4270s | Extinction means that next turn he's got |
4272s | phantasms into |
4275s | Dimensions which might be very tempting |
4277s | for him because he's getting quite close |
4278s | to a turn seven double Guild Trader |
4281s | if some of your stuff costs zero on the |
4283s | next turn you're in a good spot so I |
4286s | think he'll be looking to get these two |
4286s | relics cast |
4291s | oh maybe it doesn't mean there's so much |
4294s | even there's so much damage even |
4296s | next turn |
4298s | well he's down to um from what he can |
4301s | see he's down to 14 so from where he's |
4302s | set he can just lose |
4306s | was short he's down even less because |
4308s | there's a mine in that counterfeit blade |
4310s | so there's 10 damage being represented |
4312s | just on board he's down to 10 so he may |
4314s | feel the need just to heal and remove |
4315s | the two that you can see and then just |
4317s | play the extinction because |
4319s | relics it's hard yeah so he's got a |
4322s | maltronix this turn and load up the |
4325s | phantasms |
4327s | oh geez |
4336s | wait snowfall graveyard that's two |
4344s | attack mind backstab that's lethal even |
4348s | through maltronics |
4354s | that's insane |
4356s | oh |
4358s | [Laughter] |
4361s | oh gosh |
4363s | turn five lethal through maotronics yeah |
4369s | and it's 2-1 to you ye who now just has |
4372s | his plague people left I believe |
4379s | yeah that's |
4381s | ridiculous I did not ex well I said if |
4385s | he picks up a dumpable card off the |
4386s | table he was still it was totally until |
4388s | next turn if he doesn't heal through |
4390s | maltronics I think y'all this play was |
4392s | good |
4393s | um because like you know my you sitting |
4397s | up for a turn six kill scenario was |
4398s | based off the fact that yarla would be |
4400s | not at 20 right I said 32 damage on turn |
4405s | six that was assuming y'all was gonna |
4407s | like heal or something like that y'all |
4409s | thought he'd be safe for this turn with |
4411s | maltronics and that some of the combo |
4413s | piece he wouldn't be able to set up the |
4415s | combo because of the maltronics right |
4418s | um and then he'd be able to heal and |
4421s | dump his cards next turn and then try |
4423s | and set up for like you said the Json |
4425s | seven |
4427s | um |
4427s | but did pick up the double card off the |
4430s | top and was able to get it done that |
4433s | snowfall graveyard hold right we were |
4436s | talking about oh you could snowfall |
4437s | graveyard on three then you know tricks |
4439s | or smoke screen on four but that's you |
4443s | know that's a risk right I if you only |
4445s | have one snowfall graveyard you'd rather |
4447s | just wait until you can actually play it |
4450s | when you know you're getting death |
4451s | battles instead of |
4453s | like a whatever the percentage is with |
4456s | you know 23 cards left in deck |
4459s | hitting three death rattles that are in |
4461s | your deck with five draws you do the |
4464s | math deal I don't want to do math I |
4466s | don't ever do math I just do numbers |
4469s | that's a whole different thing |
4471s | that's a whole different ball game yeah |
4475s | that's just numbers ball games just |
4476s | numbers that's baseball baby 2814 oh |
4480s | that's not baseball that's football |
4482s | baseball's like seven five unless you're |
4485s | in Colorado I think it's like 14 13 |
4487s | because the air is so thin but we worry |
4489s | about that another time |
4491s | yep Maha Stadium |
4493s | indeed oh my the Colorado Rockies no |
4496s | it's not my house Stadium's the Broncos |
4498s | I think X Broncos I believe might be |
4502s | wrong maybe it's still his Mile High |
4504s | John Elway played the Mile High Stadium |
4506s | that much I do know |
4510s | John Elway that's a throwback for what |
4513s | when I used forwards that's the only way |
4515s | you're allowed to throw us a girl |
4518s | yeah |
4519s | you could throw backwards yeah but you |
4523s | don't because then you people accuse you |
4524s | playing that you do |
4527s | like it's very often |
4530s | like Flea Flicker plays and stuff is |
4533s | that like all of those okay you you |
4534s | pitch backwards yeah that's a pitch |
4537s | exactly |
4539s | technical just pictures of synonym for |
4541s | throw |
4542s | you throw a baseball at somebody |
4546s | there's a literally a position called a |
4549s | pitcher he's not called a thrower is he |
4552s | exactly if I caught a baseball pitcher a |
4556s | thrower I'd get called an English idiot |
4561s | proving my point |
4564s | Emily |
4565s | yeah |
4566s | I think I won this discussion a pitcher |
4569s | is still throwing a baseball no he's not |
4572s | he's pitching it |
4575s | like I'm pitching this um discussion and |
4578s | you're throwing it |
4581s | I think it's the other way around |
4582s | actually I I think you'll find not |
4584s | anyway we're interplay people people |
4586s | priest and that's great because I get to |
4588s | say the word plague people a million |
4589s | times and then get tweeted at for not |
4590s | knowing the name of plague whatever it's |
4592s | called |
4594s | it's Pike spreader it's not even that |
4597s | complicated of a card |
4599s | it's not it Just spreads plagues yeah |
4602s | it's not like you know |
4606s | plague warlord of Azeroth right it's not |
4609s | even something like lore base it what |
4611s | does it do it spreads plagues Blake's |
4614s | better |
4616s | yeah that's why even I can remember it |
4619s | yeah there you go I can be awkward to |
4622s | use plug spur in this matchup I found |
4624s | that like um if I use plug spreader on |
4626s | curve they just trade away their Guild |
4629s | Trader and then fell barrage you know |
4631s | like uh the plague spreader later on in |
4634s | the game are the ones that that are the |
4637s | toughest uh to deal with like a turn |
4640s | like six or seven plague spreader like |
4642s | give them time to like draw the Jace you |
4645s | know |
4646s | um and then drop the plague spreader |
4648s | yeah |
4649s | bone collar in hand |
4651s | you know that you can play it on curve |
4654s | but like if you just have a plague |
4655s | spreader in hand and no way to bring it |
4657s | back whether it be amulet or bone collar |
4659s | then playing it on curve |
4661s | can sometimes be |
4664s | uh not the best it's just a good plural |
4667s | plague spreader plague people |
4670s | that's the plural of play splitter |
4675s | the plural of plague spreader is plague |
4677s | spreaders |
4678s | no come on be serious anyone |
4684s | that's one thing I learned from school |
4686s | plural of anything you just add an s |
4689s | well like you said galley wix's |
4693s | yep uh-huh |
4696s | TJ sound diseases points |
4700s | what's multiple TJ Saunders is that TJ |
4703s | Saunders this is uh it's I believe it's |
4706s | TJ San die |
4708s | but Gally Wickes |
4711s | yeah okay good tool that's it's it's a |
4715s | it's a hundred percent rule right yep I |
4718s | didn't ask at the end if there's already |
4719s | an S at the end of the world the plural |
4721s | is you change the last syllable for an i |
4726s | okay unless it's plagues but in which |
4728s | case you have played people |
4730s | yep |
4732s | the three rules the three rules they |
4735s | teach you in America about English |
4739s | all right meltronics did something kind |
4742s | of yeah |
4744s | it did a little bit oh spectral sight |
4747s | off the tippity top that'll do a lot |
4749s | dollar reaching up to the top shelf of |
4751s | the deck plucking off the spectral site |
4762s | yeah you've got to spend your money |
4763s | that's one thing about this deck that is |
4765s | kind of the only thing you don't have |
4766s | much versatility with like you cannot |
4769s | float Mana with this deck I don't think |
4777s | he wants to eliminate the possibility of |
4780s | a gift draw but honestly consider the |
4785s | possibility of eliminating the |
4786s | difference just just ship it yeah 40 |
4790s | card deck |
4792s | yeah |
4795s | but is that more of a reason or less of |
4796s | a reason to stop them from drawing I |
4798s | know it's more of a reason they won't be |
4799s | able to draw |
4808s | a bit |
4810s | is he gonna is he gonna chat |
4812s | a bit he does it |
4817s | correct oh |
4820s | a a singular plague spreader uh-huh |
4826s | yeah I like it here because you got a |
4828s | bone collar to bring it back if it just |
4830s | gets removed with no minions in hand |
4842s | he's saying it for years |
4850s | I mean look at these cars look at the |
4852s | state of these cards |
4854s | yeah that's the absolute statement I |
4857s | think there's the only one that gives |
4859s | you anything but do you really want |
4861s | something right now from your opponent |
4863s | like do you do you need |
4865s | that deck is quite as powerful I guess |
4869s | do you need cards or when you have these |
4871s | full of things you can't empty |
4873s | oh you got a snake |
4879s | back here comes the plague spreader okay |
4888s | and draw straight into the minion that |
4890s | he wants to protect |
4892s | yeah |
4894s | before that the players have to kill off |
4896s | the plague spreader |
4899s | in order for the it to happen this turn |
4902s | but at this point you if you don't deal |
4905s | with it now like you could |
4908s | trade away the guild Trader I hope you |
4910s | don't draw a minion Arcanist |
4912s | Extinction right |
4914s | um but then you ruin your your Vault |
4916s | Dimensions turn so you get dimensions |
4918s | and then hope that you don't draw into |
4920s | Jason that it doesn't get killed off |
4922s | next turn or hope that you just nail |
4925s | like every spell damage minion that gets |
4928s | double reduced like that's also a thing |
4933s | yeah he's not even enough of them now |
4936s | it's fine right just draw all of them |
4939s | and you're good |
4940s | don't worry |
4945s | my goodness the county lethal was |
4947s | already just so stupid it does this |
4950s | is it just lethal next turn |
4954s | oh |
4955s | not even close he's always close |
4959s | oh it's not close |
4960s | 8 16. |
4963s | 20 |
4965s | eight |
4967s | okay it's kind of close |
4971s | it's something like oh no the Bell bro |
4975s | no he should have turned it one of the |
4978s | things into a plague spreader and that |
4980s | would have probably been lethal |
4984s | no |
4986s | no |
4987s | everything if he had killed the plank |
4990s | spur last turn pending which of his |
4992s | things got turned if it hit the |
4994s | expensive Guild Trader he wouldn't have |
4996s | enough Mana to do everything in one turn |
4998s | four six okay so he would have been two |
5000s | turn |
5002s | sure |
5003s | and the location still would have been |
5005s | played so |
5006s | you're so used to stop being lethal |
5009s | hmm |
5011s | well now you kind of have to take the |
5014s | risk anyway |
5018s | well he can play one of the he can play |
5020s | one of the cheaper spell damage here |
5024s | or he could play the ex another happy |
5027s | guilty |
5028s | oh you think it's probably the expensive |
5030s | one so he doesn't yeah |
5032s | that was played |
5035s | putting it back for future use kind of |
5037s | understand that as well |
5048s | I don't work out you should have cycled |
5050s | after the chaos strike |
5052s | oh he did get the phantasms off okay |
5055s | good yeah |
5060s | because by cycling |
5062s | before the chaos strike gave him more |
5064s | information but also gave him a chance |
5065s | of redrawing the thing he was trying to |
5067s | hide in his deck |
5078s | this this matchup is a brain melter |
5080s | absolutely |
5084s | oh |
5086s | it would hit the more expensive Arcanist |
5088s | that's a welcome to the club yeah he |
5092s | tried to get the snake hit but |
5095s | realistically you're going to lose some |
5097s | spell damage in this game at least it's |
5098s | not a Jace |
5099s | at least that portion of the game is |
5101s | over for the time being |
5111s | quickly |
5115s | being burned is so big because that's so |
5118s | much for like so much damage that's lost |
5121s | yeah bit by bit this deck removed the |
5123s | damage didn't it so the marks have both |
5126s | gone from Charlie's deck for instance |
5127s | and they've gone from uh most of the |
5130s | Dexter take out at least one originally |
5132s | this deck had a lot more damage in it |
5134s | and was very much a damage |
5136s | slightly less of a combo deck and more |
5138s | of a just kill you deck but now |
5141s | yeah the fell is a crucial part of |
5143s | everything that's going on |
5150s | I'm gonna have to look to a type I'm not |
5152s | sure what it is but he should look to |
5154s | try and set up two turn lethal here if |
5155s | he can I know you always should but |
5157s | particularly right now demons |
5160s | demons |
5170s | Danny going to do that with double spell |
5172s | damage maybe triple spell damage |
5184s | at some point he's gonna have to take a |
5186s | risk right and just hope that the Viper |
5187s | gets hit by a plague spreader |
5189s | uh I feel like it yeah |
5191s | just like just you can take you can take |
5194s | another turn of damage it's just he |
5196s | needs to be doing something here yeah |
5199s | um |
5201s | honestly wouldn't even mind like just |
5202s | Relic faulting this right like a |
5204s | Phantasm yeah I actually you might need |
5207s | a relic Vault for the okay yeah I guess |
5210s | it's casting twice so just having the |
5211s | double Extinction in hand is is fine |
5213s | enough |
5215s | to boost your last Dimensions you're |
5218s | saying |
5220s | uh no to boost your last uh your |
5222s | Extinction to get through a board got it |
5226s | that you ensure that like Fel barrage |
5229s | goes face all the time yeah y'all is |
5232s | lost too I think like piecing together |
5234s | 34 damage is going to be very difficult |
5239s | he's gonna need to do it all in the same |
5241s | turn |
5242s | um he's gonna need to have uh like the |
5244s | zero Mana Guild Trader Arcanist |
5247s | dump spells but that's why he keeps |
5249s | pushing him back right in the same turn |
5251s | yeah |
5254s | um but weirdly by putting them back he's |
5256s | giving himself a chance to draw them |
5258s | again I wonder if he should be holding |
5259s | on to them until the time comes and then |
5260s | put them back but I mean none of this is |
5263s | easy right now in the slightest |
5267s | that last Dimensions needs to hit them |
5271s | hunt too quickly |
5276s | yeah down to a turn or so and like you |
5279s | say this the plague spread is back |
5288s | there is still a lot of damage available |
5290s | it's just if he had infinite time like |
5292s | you're saying that he hasn't got the |
5293s | infinite time |
5298s | I honestly think this is in extinction |
5301s | in prey right |
5303s | I just hope your viper gets hit one you |
5306s | need one more turn |
5307s | or that you you take damage off the |
5310s | board that is that isn't the spreader |
5312s | yep they don't hit the spreader I agree |
5318s | because the policeman's not gonna the |
5319s | priest is not gonna have burst so you |
5321s | there's nine what 19th power on board 16 |
5324s | yeah 19 power on board so you just need |
5326s | to take out one minion |
5328s | and this is where the psychology of it |
5330s | being the world championship's huge |
5332s | right because you don't want to lose |
5334s | your thing getting plagues better but |
5336s | you've just got to play the matter |
5337s | whatever the situation you've still just |
5338s | got to do the best math and Hope uh it |
5341s | hit the chase yeah |
5347s | and as long as |
5349s | UE gets rid of this board |
5351s | yala will be down to only one spell |
5353s | damage minion in the deck then at that |
5355s | point as well |
5356s | um |
5357s | there is still |
5360s | one |
5362s | there's not there's not even um |
5365s | an extra Phantasm so try and make some |
5367s | stuff in the deck and that's the end of |
5368s | it yep Whirlpool coming out eliminating |
5372s | the second Guild Trader no Jesus there |
5374s | not even yawa's own plague spreaders as |
5376s | well |
5377s | uh and that's it UE moves on to |
5381s | semi-finals |
5383s | just like that a lot of combo based |
5386s | action in that one and yala |
5389s | just didn't quite have the best of it |
5391s | there you did nothing wrong either it's |
5393s | just one of those games that look like |
5394s | it's really well played apart from maybe |
5396s | the last couple of turns from yalo in |
5398s | this one where like you say he just he |
5400s | had so much going on in his head so much |
5402s | he had to juggle around uh play playing |
5404s | around play Spit as well as trying to |
5406s | set up a lethal whilst also trying not |
5408s | to die |
5409s | is a Head Exploder let's face it so he |
5412s | was right up against it there and yala |
5415s | once again not the world champion this |
5417s | time around but also once again has |
5419s | provided us with a lot of entertainment |
5421s | through the year and throughout all the |
5423s | other years as well but UE four players |
5426s | left for him yeah he is uh |
5430s | playing incredibly right now and |
5433s | obviously has a deck that or has a |
5436s | lineup That Demon Hunter struggling |
5437s | against let's be honest that that it |
5440s | seems like that's where he's netting a |
5441s | lot of his wins players just can't get |
5443s | the Demon Hunter across with the way |
5445s | he's built this lineup so I've been uh |
5448s | quite cool to see him play uh but yeah |
5450s | that last game from yarla you all that |
5453s | knew that at some point he was going to |
5454s | have to take a risk and take a 50 50 or |
5457s | whatever for plague spreader he got it |
5459s | down to a point where it was a 50 50 |
5461s | instead of like you know a 66.6 chance |
5465s | to eliminate a spell damage minion the |
5468s | PG of course repeating of course if the |
5470s | Viper had been hit by that first plague |
5472s | spreader there maybe there's a chance |
5474s | but to be honest it was a pretty slim |
5476s | pickings that's a very difficult game to |
5479s | navigate and I think that UE also just |
5482s | you know played that as well as he |
5484s | possibly could have given the situations |
5487s | making every turn as awkward as possible |
5489s | for your list so well done you will see |
5491s | him later on in the semi-finals but |
5493s | that's just |
5494s | the first quarterfinal |
5497s | um and Saul has just pointed out plague |
5499s | spreader plague spreader that is |
5501s | actually correct it can turn the plague |
5502s | spreader into a plague spreader it |
5504s | doesn't only take the place where |
5505s | everyone so yes it was actually the |
5507s | highest chance he possibly could have |
5509s | had to hit |
5511s | um something that wasn't Jace so |
5514s | oh but enough about that game |
5516s | because we got plenty more games to come |
5518s | Lorinda as I did that whole series went |
5521s | by I still didn't put on my shirt I know |
5523s | after each game I was thinking it's |
5525s | comfy too if I give him a hint do I just |
5526s | like |
5528s | Superman this or something but I decided |
5530s | to just carry on yeah good job caring on |
5533s | good job carrying on but yeah we solved |
5535s | six more matches left on the day three |
5536s | more quarterfinals two semifinals and |
5538s | then of course the grand finals later on |
5540s | to finish it all uh but before we jump |
5542s | into the next quarter final we are gonna |
5543s | have to take a quick break so don't go |
5545s | anywhere more action to come here from |
5547s | the Hearthstone World Championship right |
5549s | after this |
5551s | foreign |
5555s | [Music] |
5564s | [Music] |
5568s | oceans or mountains |
5571s | hiya |
5572s | good answer big parties or small |
5575s | gatherings |
5578s | baths or showers |
5580s | puzzle |
5582s | uh prefer to be a passenger or a driver |
5588s | City or Countryside |
5592s | prefer to work hard or play hard |
5595s | [Music] |
5614s | [Music] |
5617s | okay cats or dogs dogs |
5620s | messy or tidy |
5623s | tidy |
5624s | uh call or text |
5630s | Okay roller coaster or bumper cars |
5634s | um roller coaster |
5636s | scary movie or funny movie funny movie |
5639s | and snowball fight or water balloon |
5642s | fight snowball fight |
5646s | [Music] |
5656s | [Music] |
5663s | [Music] |
5667s | thank you |
5669s | [Music] |
5696s | thank you |
5698s | [Music] |
5743s | thank you |
5749s | hello everyone and welcome back we are |
5751s | ready for our second match of the day |
5753s | and it's all on the line for these |
5755s | players I'm Raven and joining me subtle |
5757s | and we've got xmg coming up versus bunny |
5760s | Hopper and again I think this is just |
5762s | going to be uh the plan for the day |
5764s | subtle is being upset at whoever loses |
5767s | right because like we've just seen yala |
5769s | get knocked out it's such a big deal but |
5771s | again when you when you compare it to |
5774s | you Yi when you look at Players like xmg |
5777s | versus bunny I can't sit here and say oh |
5780s | one should win you know over the other |
5783s | just based on the players themselves |
5785s | yeah sir I was a little bit initially |
5787s | confused by the way you phrase that he |
5788s | said it's time angry be upset at whoever |
5791s | loses like at whoever loses screw you |
5794s | buddy how dare you lose this game of |
5796s | hearthstone I mean yeah that's going to |
5797s | be true depending on who we predicted |
5799s | right also very good could happen but |
5802s | mostly yeah just the level of these |
5804s | players right it's just it's gonna hit |
5805s | us hard every single match today yeah um |
5809s | particularly because we're likely to see |
5811s | the the deal in Hearthstone where like |
5813s | yala just kind of went out swinging |
5815s | there you know it's not like someone |
5816s | just completely capitulates under the |
5818s | pressure |
5820s | um I'm not sure how much total sense |
5822s | yala's plan did make in those last few |
5824s | turns but at the same time he was just |
5826s | put in a very incredibly awkward |
5828s | position by an incredibly good player |
5831s | and that's what we're going to get to In |
5832s | This World Championship I don't think |
5833s | we're necessarily going to see too many |
5835s | games now we're like okay yeah goodbye |
5838s | you got outplayed you deserve to lose |
5839s | kind of thing you know like we're just |
5841s | at this level now we're in incredibly |
5843s | fine margins are going to dictate the |
5846s | outcome of these games yeah of course |
5848s | just checking in with xmg the the uh not |
5850s | sure about the uh draca priest it's |
5853s | definitely a an archetype I'm not used |
5856s | to seeing too often but most importantly |
5858s | just look at those records right just |
5860s | extremely solid and gold team |
5862s | championship and then you know very |
5864s | strong in Masters tours as well so xmg |
5867s | has been there very impressive for me |
5868s | throughout the the course of the weekend |
5870s | so far subtle yeah that was Gia's job |
5872s | for this tournament and she's sacked off |
5874s | to bigger and better things now so we |
5875s | can just blame her perfect she's track a |
5878s | priest come on uh yeah very very strong |
5880s | player all of the kzg players of which I |
5882s | believe there are there were three in |
5884s | this tournament at the star which is |
5885s | obviously a great performance for uh |
5887s | that take that team a great performance |
5888s | of the China region as well making it |
5891s | this far they're all very very strong |
5893s | players and they do have a slightly |
5896s | Off the Wall lineup construction between |
5899s | uh across the spread of all of the |
5901s | players who are doing so you can see |
5903s | here like pure Paladin and yeah even |
5905s | Draco |
5907s | okay something has gone very wrong with |
5910s | the data entry on xfg's decklist here I |
5913s | think is how sick would draca be in |
5916s | Priest like he would still be incredible |
5919s | like you would still base play the same |
5922s | deck maybe that's what ergia was going |
5924s | for at this point whereas the the Rogue |
5927s | and the priests are more or less the |
5929s | same style so why not call them the same |
5931s | thing |
5932s | yeah but so this is a deck that we have |
5935s | seen honestly visibly struggle a little |
5938s | bit obviously it still has the massive |
5940s | successful pop-ups that we've seen |
5943s | um but we've been skewed I think by uh |
5946s | by some of the matchups it's been forced |
5948s | to take on |
5949s | um going up against shattering blast and |
5952s | mass polymorph Mage or just cueing into |
5955s | Demon Hunter and them just drawing you |
5957s | know location relic of Extinction and |
5959s | suddenly you know you're one or two |
5960s | turns where you can make a bunch of 20 |
5962s | Health minions just don't really seem |
5964s | that impressive against the level of |
5966s | resilience long-term resilience that |
5968s | Mage has and that burst removal that |
5970s | what that you know one of the few decks |
5972s | in the game that has the power to remove |
5974s | at the same speed the priest has the |
5977s | power to put stats on the board so uh |
5979s | still waiting for uh Boone priest to |
5981s | really live up to the hype in this |
5983s | tournament in particular yeah and |
5985s | speaking of the priests in general bunny |
5986s | is gonna I think have his Mage band away |
5989s | and that means this Quest priest is |
5991s | going to be available as well as the |
5993s | Rogue so we could be in free not |
5995s | particularly a long series due to just |
5997s | the nature of xmg's decks at least as |
5999s | far as I can see but just uh bunny gets |
6002s | to play uh Decks that I think are suited |
6005s | to bunny Hopper you know just you know |
6007s | sort of a generally drawn out you know |
6009s | styles that where you have to get a |
6011s | little bit creative to sort of almost |
6013s | like generate those Wing conditions |
6016s | yeah for sure you can see just with the |
6018s | uh the sheer number of renothal decks |
6020s | that bunny Hopper has in his lineup here |
6022s | that he is looking to play some of those |
6024s | longer more drawn out games does have |
6026s | the quest Demon Hunter thrown in there |
6028s | as well because I think that deck just |
6029s | does fall into the category coming into |
6031s | this tournament at the very least of |
6034s | being too good to drop yeah what I will |
6037s | say though is when we've seen matchups |
6039s | played at the very highest level |
6041s | uh like if I queue into plague spreader |
6045s | Quest priest on ladder I'm not |
6047s | particularly worried I still think I'm |
6048s | favored uh when we're seeing it being |
6050s | played at a very very high level it does |
6052s | seem like the control decks with the |
6054s | plague spreader the control decks with |
6056s | the various other forms of disruption uh |
6058s | do have a better chance against these uh |
6060s | combo decks than you know maybe your |
6062s | average player does |
6064s | um so interesting to see you know when |
6065s | we get to the very very very end of the |
6067s | tournament whether this is uh still you |
6070s | know combo decks are keying or whether |
6071s | it is some of these tech cards and some |
6073s | of these anti-combo strategies that are |
6075s | starting to come to fruition I was ready |
6077s | for a very different path of that |
6078s | conversation there where you were going |
6080s | to say oh yeah every time I queue into |
6081s | the uh play Express priests online there |
6084s | I I just leave |
6085s | um and then you know it's just Friday |
6087s | three points most of them yeah the |
6090s | point's worth the time sometimes it |
6092s | depended on what deck you're playing if |
6094s | you're playing Demon Hunter they're on |
6096s | your time you're not on theirs don't |
6098s | worry about it very very true but yeah |
6100s | as we've said throughout not only this |
6101s | tournament but almost bunny Hoppers you |
6104s | know the majority of his career but this |
6106s | style of deck and especially this style |
6109s | of Rogue is something he is very very |
6111s | good at indeed and so it will be a even |
6114s | though he's good at this he's going to |
6115s | be having a bit of a tough one against |
6117s | this priest because you can plan for |
6120s | long games you know pull sort of win |
6121s | conditions out of nowhere later on and |
6124s | really think 10 steps ahead but that |
6126s | might not help you if you can't answer |
6129s | the pop-off turn from the priest right |
6131s | and I think that is one of the the |
6133s | drawbacks of this deck is if you're |
6135s | forced into a corner quickly and you |
6137s | don't have that answer there's often not |
6140s | tons of stuff you can actually do about |
6142s | it yeah what I will say is that |
6145s | concoctions have added just an extra |
6147s | Dimension into Rogue in general and |
6150s | particularly into this deck |
6152s | um especially in combination with the |
6154s | duplicate spell as well if you can get a |
6156s | good destruction with uh Destroyer |
6158s | random thrown in there as well if you |
6160s | can get the double Destroyer random and |
6162s | if you then have the shadow spell in |
6164s | your hand and you can just absolutely |
6165s | nuke boards from orbit if you're able to |
6168s | get those combinations going and that's |
6171s | not even allowing for the chance that |
6174s | you do just rip jackpot and just hit |
6175s | some absolutely not so anti-pre-spell |
6178s | coming off the jackpot that you can then |
6179s | repeat over and over again so I do think |
6182s | jackpot Rogue is a deck that did get |
6184s | some nice new toys to play with in the |
6185s | new expansion |
6187s | um and I think bunny is possibly the |
6189s | best equipped player in the world to use |
6192s | those tools effectively in this deck |
6194s | yeah I think that's completely fair and |
6196s | looking at the opening hands here xmg |
6197s | choosing to keep hold of the Raging |
6200s | Elemental and an identity theft whereas |
6202s | bunny still just considering the options |
6205s | again I do feel like this Mulligan for |
6208s | the rogue deck is one of the most |
6210s | difficult because there's so many |
6212s | different things you can make Arguments |
6214s | for right in this road deck like you can |
6217s | look at so many of the different cards |
6218s | in your opening Mulligan and think okay |
6220s | well that's good for that that's good |
6222s | for this do I want to keep this for that |
6224s | and it's very difficult to just say this |
6226s | is always a correct Mulligan or an |
6228s | incorrect Mulligan they're going on |
6229s | there but when you're decided to throw |
6231s | everything in I think it's fair to say |
6233s | get at least reasonably rewarded here a |
6235s | cutlers to just cycle if he wants to and |
6237s | then the sketchy to just play out on |
6239s | curve and at least give himself options |
6241s | going forward |
6243s | and exhale did hit a spell with the um |
6246s | with the weapon because as we all know |
6248s | you can't discount a spell below zero |
6253s | uh I feel sorry for chat that doesn't |
6255s | understand jokes that were made till she |
6257s | minutes before going live I will |
6260s | contextualize uh that when TJ and |
6262s | Lorinda came back into our sort of |
6263s | virtual green room after casting I was |
6266s | talking like hang on you you do realize |
6268s | that plague spreader can hit plague |
6269s | spreader because it seemed like they |
6270s | were talking as if it wasn't and they |
6272s | both said yeah we'd often forget because |
6273s | it's like you know Howard zero Mana |
6275s | spell can't be discounted which is sort |
6278s | of semi-true but I just don't understand |
6280s | why that's a comparison that was in |
6282s | their heads very confused now |
6284s | unfortunately here we can't see the |
6285s | discoveries we'll try and get that fixed |
6287s | for you ASAP uh but still bunny Opera |
6290s | will be able to give himself options |
6292s | going forward |
6293s | but see with this prep as well suddenly |
6295s | although the hand doesn't do tons right |
6298s | now |
6299s | the chance of the high value impact |
6301s | coming soon is there for bunny Hopper |
6303s | picking up that counter spell now yeah |
6305s | counter spell very nice indeed |
6309s | okay null there's the prep bursary |
6314s | too bad at all |
6318s | and I'm gonna be uh you know a |
6320s | we're running out of time this weekend |
6322s | so I'm gonna throw out a typical maybe |
6324s | Raven stupid question okay does bunny |
6326s | ever consider using a shadow step on |
6328s | this sketchy here just to just get |
6330s | another secret in the pile |
6332s | yeah so there is a problem that you do |
6335s | run into with Rogue decks where you know |
6337s | you're playing Shadow steps you're |
6338s | playing preps you might be playing |
6339s | backstabs whatever else it is so |
6342s | sometimes you know as old as 2014 you do |
6344s | just draw these hands that are Absolute |
6346s | Air |
6347s | um and one of the things that you learn |
6348s | quite quickly is when you get into |
6349s | situations like this just turn your |
6352s | Shadow steps into actual Hearthstone |
6354s | cards right like as soon as you can |
6356s | actually use them on something to get |
6357s | some value just do so to be able to |
6360s | stretch The Edge and I think better than |
6362s | that in this instance it's just another |
6364s | chance to go fishing for you know |
6366s | objection specifically which is a |
6368s | fantastic card to uh to pick up in a |
6371s | number of match-ups across the board now |
6373s | and also a funnily enough not the uh |
6377s | worst secret to have reoccurring in this |
6380s | matchup like not bad at all for bunny RP |
6383s | getting that Judgment of justice is uh |
6385s | gonna be very very awkward for uh xmg to |
6389s | sort of consider time and time again |
6391s | that's the big issue right the secrets |
6393s | aren't just like okay you can throw |
6395s | something to a counter spell right fine |
6397s | but what about the next counter spell |
6399s | and then the one after that and so on so |
6400s | on that's when it really starts to get |
6402s | problematic for for the opponent here an |
6405s | xmg was in such a horrific 50 50 |
6407s | situation there because PC's Mage secret |
6410s | come down if it's counter spell and he |
6413s | plays identity theft into it then that's |
6415s | a disaster he wastes his whole turn |
6417s | if on the other hand it's objection then |
6421s | identity theft is the number one thing |
6423s | he wants to do because he wants to get a |
6426s | Minion from his opponent to be able to |
6428s | proc the objection and you have |
6429s | basically no read on that because it's |
6432s | just a discovered Mage secret and Bunny |
6434s | would have picked either of those yeah |
6436s | both are good in that situation so yeah |
6438s | you know there might be people say |
6440s | making the argument well we'll just test |
6441s | with coin first no coin isn't fantastic |
6444s | card in xmg's hand right now he does not |
6447s | want to throw coin away for no reason |
6449s | it's a way more high value card than |
6453s | just a coin is in most matchups in Blast |
6455s | proves |
6456s | and this is really starting to start |
6458s | here bunny is probably just one solid |
6460s | card away from really piling on the |
6463s | pressure for xmg because now we we do |
6466s | get to see the perjury as well but with |
6468s | the Contraband stash you can just start |
6470s | stacking these and although xmg Will |
6473s | then know the secrets and won't have to |
6475s | test things uh it's still gonna soak up |
6478s | cards right like if you know a counter |
6481s | spells there and if you deck play spells |
6483s | well you're probably going to have to |
6484s | play a spell into it and take the hit so |
6486s | let's see how this one pans out |
6491s | why is it always the Decks that open a |
6493s | box every turn that the discovers break |
6495s | on yeah I don't know I honestly don't |
6498s | know it's a little bit infuriating but |
6500s | we do get to see it's going to be the |
6502s | ice barrier here which another Mage |
6504s | secret xmg again has to play around not |
6508s | the best one by any means but I suppose |
6510s | at least there xmg's gonna have to think |
6512s | about it but now subtle that's it's one |
6516s | of those turns I bring up I think every |
6518s | single time we cast this this deck I |
6521s | bring up like sometimes you just sat |
6523s | there with some cards and they may as |
6526s | well be from a different game because |
6528s | they just don't do that much |
6534s | but can bunny really afford to pass I |
6536s | saw him have a Contraband stash there |
6538s | and a part of me thinks I'm just with |
6540s | him honestly like can he just pass I |
6542s | don't think so yeah I respect it I'm |
6545s | just looking at this turn and saying |
6547s | well we have uh five Mana |
6550s | it's five Mana card in the hand in a |
6552s | player yeah xmg given the round of |
6554s | applause oh that's funny |
6558s | and at least bunny Hopper you know you |
6561s | can argue as to just get through one |
6562s | more turn before we can just throw out |
6564s | the flurry of Secrets once again with |
6566s | Tess screaming yeah |
6571s | so xmg still doesn't know that it's |
6575s | not objection right |
6578s | but that's still a question mark Fame I |
6580s | believe he doesn't know that the ice |
6581s | barrier specifically is yes yes yes yeah |
6584s | he knows what the other two secrets are |
6586s | because obviously the counter spell is |
6588s | the recurring one that he's already |
6589s | procked and he will have seen Judgment |
6591s | of Justice fail to get cast on the |
6594s | Contraband stash as well let's say how |
6597s | could he possibly know he's not played |
6598s | around that many power than Secrets but |
6600s | yeah the the recast you make perfect |
6602s | sense |
6604s | oh well |
6607s | it's playable it's |
6610s | my deep analysis on this draw |
6613s | you look you play around until deck |
6615s | sometimes you're going to draw a Renault |
6616s | yeah like if you play A Renault deck |
6620s | occasionally you're gonna sign yourself |
6622s | up to play a game of Arena it it just |
6625s | happens occasionally you know |
6629s | draw a card player card |
6637s | I'll tell you something I probably have |
6639s | the least Arena wins or games out of |
6642s | probably the majority of the player base |
6643s | right now |
6645s | oh yeah not personally a fan of having |
6647s | to just play Renaissance for bunny but |
6650s | it looks like xmg now |
6651s | is saying let's go he's it's not going |
6655s | to be the objection there he knows he's |
6657s | gonna have to throw something to counter |
6658s | spell but the rest of his tourney should |
6660s | feel fairly free good to worry about the |
6663s | horse oh no sorry he knows I don't know |
6665s | why we keep bringing up the pound didn't |
6667s | you |
6668s | who's this we |
6670s | always oh it's subtle and I mess up you |
6673s | mess up okay take some responsibility |
6675s | don't drag me down with you I refuse |
6680s | okay I'll remember next time you make a |
6681s | mistake okay |
6685s | I'll just leave I'm not being a part of |
6686s | this mistake but let's just leave |
6688s | halfway through unacceptable yeah where |
6691s | are our Professional Standards I'm |
6693s | leaving I'm literally shaking I've done |
6695s | it before so yeah true |
6699s | and again |
6702s | bunny Hopper Maestro draw |
6706s | ing True Arena fashion does he have much |
6709s | choice but to play test he is whiffing |
6711s | on these like repeating Secrets not |
6714s | actually repeating but at least he's |
6715s | getting counter spells to be fair I have |
6718s | no idea why you drafted tests with swift |
6721s | scale tricks to Maestro of the |
6722s | Masquerade in your Arena deck that |
6724s | doesn't seem correct |
6726s | it'd be fair I did State my lack of it |
6728s | Arena experience so I'm like oh these |
6730s | these are all like good cards |
6732s | he's a good lead standard |
6738s | success plus a counter spell xmg is |
6741s | going to use the devour just to break |
6743s | the counter spell |
6753s | I do like when these odd situations do |
6755s | come up though because it's an |
6756s | interesting experiment you know when you |
6758s | always think oh what what if I had |
6760s | counter spell every turn of a game would |
6762s | this deck win or lose then you actually |
6764s | just get to find out sometimes ah let's |
6767s | lose isn't it |
6772s | when the applicant does the chance to |
6774s | isolate a minion right which is probably |
6776s | going to be priority number one next |
6778s | turn |
6783s | unfortunately there's seven more mana |
6785s | and another handmade and |
6787s | harder isn't it |
6791s | I think Samwell was the pick yeah it was |
6793s | it was so it was picked so fast of the |
6795s | illuminae I wasn't sure but it looked |
6797s | like it was somewhere on it is now be |
6799s | honest some well yet to impress me but |
6801s | I've not given up on it so I'm ready |
6805s | awareness |
6809s | things have definitely occurred this |
6812s | time oh someone gave animal companion |
6814s | okay |
6817s | [Laughter] |
6820s | do you like a zero about a spell that |
6822s | solves the one remaining problem left in |
6824s | this game yeah I'm just gonna highlight |
6826s | some of the cards that you may not be |
6828s | familiar with mainly the defrost |
6833s | not that it may or may not matter here |
6835s | is xmg build up a huge board and |
6838s | I guess to no one's Surprise by now |
6840s | bunny has nothing to do on his turn and |
6843s | simply has to pass with the village the |
6846s | perfect response to this judgment of |
6848s | Justice I think you can see in a bunny |
6850s | Hoppers face now you yeah it's probably |
6852s | accepted his fate at this point |
6854s | nice of you as well to uh highlight what |
6857s | they call poisonous flowers in Canada |
6862s | what's that that's a Night Show Bud |
6865s | yeah I had to look at the name of the |
6867s | card again like where's this joke going |
6869s | oh okay it's not going anywhere that was |
6872s | a joke down all standards that's a solid |
6875s | two out of ten it is total scale yeah |
6880s | and at the moment SMG can more or less |
6883s | do what he wants and I'm pretty sure he |
6885s | will be aware that he can do what he |
6887s | wants especially now yeah especially |
6889s | that the hand is a pile of rubbish it's |
6892s | the best feeling when you play this deck |
6895s | you just rip the identity theft he like |
6897s | ah perfect I win |
6900s | and then you know there's always someone |
6902s | out there who goes oh this discovers are |
6904s | rubbish I can't get a good card |
6907s | [Applause] |
6912s | I don't know why but I very much enjoyed |
6914s | that was like you know what let me make |
6916s | a couple of attacks right now do I cycle |
6918s | this there's no way this has to be late |
6921s | though there's no shot I wasn't even |
6923s | paying attention that has to have been |
6925s | leading yeah I think that's what xmg's |
6927s | uh slap himself in the face a few times |
6929s | might have been four |
6933s | look at Buddy's little face he's loving |
6935s | it he's like you know what time to go |
6937s | out with a bang |
6940s | I think that's gonna cut it no it is no |
6943s | and xmg takes game number one yeah yeah |
6946s | yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we saw it you |
6948s | saw it everybody's sorry but most |
6950s | important on the xmg in these situations |
6952s | I do think it's important to go I'm an |
6955s | idiot I messed up I won move on now you |
6958s | know carry on with the match doesn't |
6959s | matter he won anyway it wasn't punished |
6961s | great uh for xmg there and there what an |
6964s | odd game and I think again those are |
6967s | those Rogue games that make people |
6968s | question whether the deck's good right |
6971s | I'm not saying it's correct to but there |
6973s | are those just games where it looks like |
6975s | the worst deck in the world yeah it was |
6978s | after such a promising Star as well with |
6981s | you know double early disruptive secret |
6982s | with uh judgment and counter spell |
6985s | you're like okay cool you know all you |
6987s | need to do from that point is just pick |
6989s | up like one more thing like something to |
6991s | actually go on the board or one passive |
6993s | removal right and then just keep |
6996s | recurring that over and over again and |
6997s | you're probably annoying enough that |
6999s | you're at least in the game against |
7000s | priest at that point like you make xmg |
7002s | have to think and plan you put them in |
7005s | you put them in a similar spot to where |
7007s | yala was in that previous game at the |
7009s | end of the last series right where |
7010s | there's just lots of irritating things |
7012s | happening on the other side and you're |
7014s | having to navigate your way through with |
7015s | the more combo Focus deck but as it is |
7018s | bunny just didn't really put up any |
7019s | resistance there because he he just drew |
7022s | a couple of Secrets and then the thief |
7024s | activator cards as opposed to yeah the |
7026s | actual Thief cards and just kind of fell |
7029s | over even though xmg decided to uh give |
7032s | him a bit of a window and now moving on |
7034s | xmg jumping across to this Paladin what |
7037s | have you made from it from what you've |
7038s | seen so far this weekend subtle because |
7040s | we've seen it look decent we've seen it |
7042s | actually be banned in some instances as |
7044s | well yeah uh it's it's fine that is my |
7049s | stance on it |
7051s | um it's it's a solid mid-tier deck I'm |
7054s | not gonna argue with it it's around it's |
7056s | in The Meta game I put it around the |
7058s | same point as like Ping Mage for example |
7060s | where if this is the way your lineup has |
7063s | gone and it makes sense holistically |
7064s | with the rest of what you're doing as a |
7066s | conquest lineup then fine I'm not going |
7068s | to object to it I'm not going to sit |
7069s | here and say this is just a straight up |
7070s | bad deck that's costing you points in |
7072s | the tournament but at the same time I |
7074s | don't I'm not saying you're bringing it |
7076s | as like the best X lineup I'm not blown |
7078s | away by it right yeah yeah it's like oh |
7081s | this was genius how did we not foresee |
7083s | you know like oh the sleeper hit of the |
7085s | tournament pure Paladin no no it would |
7088s | be great though wouldn't it it's like ah |
7090s | the sleep at the tournament just put 30 |
7091s | pounding cards in your deck it's like |
7095s | yeah you know that class that struggled |
7097s | to find like five cards that you really |
7099s | want to play in a deck up until now you |
7101s | just put 30 of them in there and then |
7102s | you're fine |
7103s | you just go so far past it that you come |
7106s | all the way back around to it being a |
7107s | good deck |
7109s | only up and down once again not the most |
7111s | convincing Mulligan choose to keep hold |
7113s | of the prep |
7115s | looking for something else to get going |
7116s | here private eye not too shabby |
7127s | generally what you want right with I |
7130s | mean nearly every Paladin deck of the |
7132s | past couple of years at this point is |
7134s | just a decent curve |
7137s | yeah I can't think of too many occasions |
7139s | in the past where I've drawn banana man |
7141s | into carial and felt upset about the way |
7144s | my game was going |
7150s | to leave the hero power for Demon Hunter |
7152s | not terrible in this situation but do |
7155s | you think it's worth the the time |
7158s | when there's a Cutlass in hand |
7162s | so bath wise in this deck |
7167s | the only things that are coming down |
7169s | early enough to interact with this right |
7172s | I'm sorry I was looking at Bunny's decks |
7173s | xmg's decks instead |
7176s | um it's seal of blood right which is |
7178s | going to reapply the Divine Shield |
7179s | anyway okay I I think the reason to hero |
7182s | power it would be you're scared of it |
7183s | getting buffed and then you have to hero |
7185s | power it for five damage six damage |
7186s | instead of the one damage that you're |
7188s | dealing with now but that's still just |
7190s | gonna be the case right because the only |
7193s | thing that's going to buff it up to a |
7194s | significant degree is going to reapply |
7196s | the Divine Shield I just wondered if it |
7198s | was like hero power and then next turn |
7200s | hero power trade |
7202s | with the with the weapon right and then |
7204s | you can dodge that three cast I think |
7207s | you want to get playing cards which is |
7209s | yeah yeah which you know I can |
7212s | absolutely get behind just it's always |
7213s | interesting when you have that Demon |
7215s | Hunter hero power specifically right |
7216s | just because of how flexible it actually |
7219s | is oh yes |
7226s | got to work out where he wants to go now |
7227s | does have tooth if he wants to just you |
7229s | know work on tidying the board up but |
7231s | because it's not that clean kill one |
7233s | coin not be quite worthwhile yeah and |
7235s | I'm kind of with him on this one |
7236s | actually just get the private eye down |
7240s | yeah my brain immediately gravitated |
7243s | towards this because I missed a really |
7244s | good line yesterday where it was coin |
7246s | Shadow coin into scabs from Levick I |
7248s | think yeah the nuts line so I was |
7250s | immediately looking for this was like |
7252s | coin coin is pretty sick here |
7257s | you just now over correct the other way |
7259s | and it's just oh yeah coin coin is just |
7261s | always correct when you have the shadow |
7262s | spell in everything |
7264s | yeah yeah that's the one |
7268s | very well |
7269s | at least his choices choices for Secrets |
7271s | here |
7274s | I think yeah I was going to say against |
7275s | Paladin I would stare at that explosive |
7278s | runes for quite a while and then pick it |
7283s | yeah I guess the only real counter |
7284s | argument is that it's the carial term |
7286s | but it's a one-off and it would be the |
7287s | nuts yeah perfect curve you know you |
7289s | don't necessarily have to play around |
7290s | that's fine |
7291s | [Music] |
7293s | cheeky now Jack |
7296s | tough right isn't it because it's like |
7298s | it's good but to re-summon it's trash |
7304s | true yeah so it's like uh like death |
7308s | rattle draw a spell for hold breaker |
7310s | like |
7312s | yeah you might just end up getting |
7313s | murdered by bringing that back every |
7315s | time but it would be funny which you |
7319s | know style is far more important to me |
7321s | yeah yeah he's gonna go for now Jack |
7323s | again I think if you said discover a |
7325s | minion pick one then yes now Jack |
7327s | especially against pile that I'm with |
7329s | you all the way it's just that but it |
7330s | does feel like Bunny's like minus one |
7333s | card on his replays oh yeah |
7337s | worth mentioning though that with this |
7339s | hand that you've got already like you |
7340s | know jackpot tooth of nefarian etc etc |
7343s | your uh Contraband stash You're Gonna |
7345s | Fill up anyway right so there's a good |
7347s | chance that that might not even end up |
7349s | happening |
7353s | really it's not too heavy it's gonna be |
7356s | banana |
7360s | boom exploding banana |
7362s | [Music] |
7366s | suddenly this is a lot of pressure while |
7368s | xmg's been spending his time ramping up |
7374s | uh double coin private eye and then |
7377s | using the explosive runes for free |
7378s | essentially that you got from that like |
7380s | that's so much tempo |
7382s | you look at private eye as a |
7385s | um three four for four you're like okay |
7387s | it's not really a high Tempo play is it |
7389s | and you look at what it did to the tempo |
7391s | of this game in particular oh my |
7393s | goodness yeah and the thing as well is |
7395s | because of the nature of this Paladin |
7397s | xmg has it's not like we're gonna start |
7399s | start talking about equality and taxes |
7402s | or anything like that right it's like |
7404s | it's just |
7405s | yeah it is without Tempo without bored |
7408s | presence there's not really any way it |
7411s | fights back so outside of of course |
7414s | doing something crazy with the Countess |
7415s | invitations but other than that like xmg |
7418s | will just be losing on board for the |
7421s | foreseeable future you definitely don't |
7423s | want to get me started talking about |
7424s | equality and taxes |
7426s | about it |
7434s | though |
7437s | don't mind this nice another aggressive |
7439s | minion right just a 4-3 get it down and |
7442s | again that is going to be re-summoned so |
7444s | in the complete opposite fashion of the |
7446s | nagerc it's not the best initial card to |
7449s | just play out as a card but when you |
7451s | read something a 4-3 every now and again |
7453s | yeah sure you'll take it |
7464s | I'll tell you something though |
7466s | as in a x Retribution Paladin in World |
7469s | of Warcraft I do love the uh the theme |
7472s | of all these new cards with the Seal of |
7474s | blood and other blood elves and |
7475s | everything strength comes very on point |
7479s | oh |
7488s | it's just not happening |
7491s | I even did let's look at some well again |
7493s | and that's becoming my favorite card if |
7495s | you need an out just start somewhere |
7502s | oh crap a tower for next turn |
7507s | I think xmg just acknowledging this |
7509s | game's going too quickly and kind of |
7511s | missed the 50 50 there on the uh the |
7514s | Order in the Court instead which would |
7515s | start drawing in the light rays that he |
7517s | kind of needs to start stabilizing this |
7519s | game at this point right I I would |
7521s | honestly love to just see bunny girl |
7523s | face right now |
7526s | got what 12 you can put his opponent to |
7529s | eight |
7535s | has asked the law in hand |
7539s | I wonder |
7541s | yeah I think just what what is xmg |
7545s | actually going to do about it from bunny |
7546s | Hopper's perspective as well I don't |
7549s | think there's too much and then he then |
7551s | bunny has krabatoa and then it worse |
7553s | statues |
7555s | yeah you do concede a 1-1 taunt to your |
7559s | opponent right with the Nugget character |
7561s | but I don't think that's a big deal |
7568s | also interested that this was the play |
7571s | instead of uh tooth Maestra for example |
7574s | but I suppose this way you front load |
7576s | the damage of the two three threes then |
7577s | you can use the tooth to deal with torn |
7579s | if that's what it comes to |
7588s | always |
7596s | hello Divine Shield a lot of stats on |
7599s | the board but |
7600s | still not nothing too great here |
7604s | that should just be lethal right |
7609s | crab lethal I think so |
7612s | crab lethal tastes like crab |
7615s | ber 216 always the best play no |
7619s | questions at all and body Hopper is |
7622s | gonna even this series open and what a |
7624s | complete you know flip of how the |
7626s | previous game looked for the Rogue right |
7628s | like bunny just had like nothing to do |
7630s | for multiple turns in a row in the |
7632s | previous game and then this time you see |
7634s | the power of the deck right where |
7636s | generating just cards to play getting |
7638s | that Tempo and keeping hold of it can |
7640s | make the world of difference and you |
7642s | also see the weakness of that Paladin |
7645s | great once you get on board and stay on |
7647s | board but if you pushed off something |
7649s | pretty crazy has to happen for you to |
7651s | actually regain control because if that |
7653s | pile is off board it's just not really |
7655s | going to achieve much |
7656s | yeah and it's good work from uh bunny as |
7659s | well we talked about how the deck is |
7661s | very flexible and more so in the hands |
7663s | of the right people uh and Buddy there |
7665s | played that deck very very aggressively |
7667s | you know there was no real greedy picks |
7669s | there was no even really greedy usage of |
7671s | cards took an Ajax Hexum which was the |
7673s | most immediate Tempo and then played it |
7675s | immediately honestly all irritating |
7677s | minion that allowed him to start pushing |
7680s | face and you can see how that really |
7682s | took hold of the game because it that |
7684s | najuk hexen that was played administered |
7687s | the lethal blow at the end of it all |
7689s | right it was still just hanging around |
7690s | you know while we were talking about |
7692s | recursive uh summoning of better minions |
7695s | and how other things would be better if |
7697s | the najak hackson to pull out in that |
7699s | situation but he's like nah I'm just |
7701s | gonna end this by playing things and |
7703s | just tempoing out the private eye |
7705s | pulling out the secrets stealing the |
7707s | torn out of the way going phase turn |
7709s | after turn after turn very very |
7711s | aggressive way to play the deck and very |
7712s | successful in the end it looks like xmg |
7715s | is jumping over to the aggro through it |
7717s | here and again very clean list we saw |
7719s | this from him yesterday was it day |
7723s | before day before I think day before |
7725s | um and anyway it did look quite good |
7728s | honestly uh aggro Druid I'll be honest |
7730s | uh even though I generally do actually |
7733s | start it well what would I bring aggro |
7736s | decks okay what are the good aggro decks |
7738s | like I'll be honest I didn't really give |
7739s | too much thought to aggro Druid for this |
7741s | tournament even though I knew it |
7742s | obviously existed but I just thought it |
7744s | was eclipsed by some of the other decks |
7745s | but I've been liking what xmg has been |
7747s | doing with his lineup overall and the |
7749s | aggro Druid definitely doesn't feel like |
7751s | the weak Factory but subtle going up |
7753s | against fell Demon Hunter what's this |
7756s | matchup like for you does the Demon |
7758s | Hunter just have the AOE in the heel to |
7760s | just win or is it a little bit more |
7763s | complicated than that |
7764s | no no you've about nailed it in your |
7768s | very reductive summing up of the matchup |
7771s | um so the problem you have here is the |
7773s | Druid is Druid doesn't really have great |
7777s | ways to give the minions massive amounts |
7779s | of attack anymore there's no Abra Savage |
7783s | raw those kind of things that are |
7785s | actually really threatening in terms of |
7786s | quick damage uh how they win is making |
7789s | boards with tons of health and then |
7792s | other classes not being able to remove |
7794s | that |
7795s | Demon Hunter |
7796s | can a just let you hit them for 10 12 14 |
7800s | damage several turns in a row and just |
7802s | heal back up again with the burst |
7804s | healing and B if they do get spell |
7807s | damage AOE plus relic of Extinction |
7809s | which they have plenty of time to build |
7811s | towards because of that healing that I |
7813s | was talking about they don't really care |
7815s | about how much health your minions so |
7818s | yeah this is a very very good matchup |
7820s | for Demon Hunter in my experience but |
7823s | you can if you get a above average |
7826s | aggressive start if you can start |
7829s | pushing you know two damage turn two |
7831s | four damage six damage just ramping up |
7833s | over time |
7835s | um Force may be one of the unleash fails |
7838s | to be used just for healing when it's |
7839s | not necessarily part of a full board |
7842s | clear then there is a chance for the |
7844s | Druid and I'm sure xmg will be trying to |
7846s | put something together here yeah and I |
7848s | think just uh you know to finish off |
7849s | what you were saying about the matchup |
7851s | overall I think when he's Mulligan |
7852s | really just you know solidifies it right |
7854s | key keeping a silver moon in Mulligan is |
7858s | not something you see in too many |
7859s | matchups as Demon Hunter but knowing |
7862s | they'll actually need that spell damage |
7864s | to just say okay maybe turn four maybe |
7867s | turn three I just need to guarantee I |
7870s | can clear it you know small to |
7871s | medium-sized board and then move on from |
7874s | there so very interesting to see the |
7875s | difference in Mulligan here from bunny |
7877s | Hopper of course as well throwing away |
7879s | the quest itself gonna be coining out |
7882s | Relic Vault to get off with and now has |
7884s | access to a pretty nice relic of |
7887s | Extinction really once as well as a hero |
7889s | power next turn |
7891s | yeah interesting going with the coin |
7893s | here when the coin came out I was |
7896s | wondering whether it was just going to |
7898s | be even coinmark just to completely |
7900s | remove any platform |
7903s | or uh bunny Hopper to build from I |
7905s | actually went for coin location just to |
7906s | get that loaded I suppose with that |
7908s | Relic in hand it does make sense yep 100 |
7910s | and now does actually keep the I'll get |
7913s | hold of the Unleashed foul should I say |
7915s | so uh and with the coin used of course |
7918s | it does limit him a little bit but from |
7920s | easily turn four onwards he has a very |
7922s | very solid AOE and heal at this point |
7927s | those have some choices here it's not |
7930s | tons of damage being shown but oh okay |
7932s | deciding to just push it out there with |
7934s | two one Health Minions on board and |
7936s | start to chip away some of these and of |
7938s | course with location it's gonna be |
7939s | procking twice and yeah okay kills two |
7942s | looks about fine puts the the others |
7944s | down to low Health as well |
7948s | how can xmg build on this |
7952s | of Herald of nature which is fine |
7955s | the power a little bit more pressure but |
7957s | these still very very killable xmg now |
7961s | praying it looks like to just let the |
7963s | minions survive so then it Prides story |
7966s | and you know at least have a chance at |
7968s | pushing back versus bunny right if he |
7970s | Prides Fiori's these three minions we |
7972s | can start to talk Soul we can indeed |
7978s | but the second best feeling in |
7980s | Hearthstone has occurred and it's very |
7982s | rare that this occurs and you don't take |
7984s | the opportunity but bunny will be |
7986s | fearful of that Pride's Fury and he will |
7989s | be thinking about whether he can afford |
7990s | the to tank this board for perhaps two |
7993s | turns which is what might be necessary |
7995s | from this point uh never mind it's all |
7997s | going bye-bye very rapidly and it's true |
7999s | it's a tough call as well because |
8000s | normally that is fantastic but without |
8002s | the quest it's definitely less good |
8005s | right you don't just get the reduction |
8007s | for example |
8011s | this patch Pride's feeling good you can |
8013s | see what this means to xmg right it's |
8015s | not like this is the last game of the |
8017s | series but he really really wants this |
8019s | win and this is what this kind of |
8021s | matchup does to you if you're the aggro |
8023s | player you say okay just don't play just |
8025s | don't clear let me have one more turn of |
8027s | damage and see what I can do |
8031s | it's just all dead right |
8034s | with location second Relic uh fell |
8038s | barrage hero power and or Unleashed fell |
8041s | three four four yeah so be right I think |
8044s | you're favored to get it just with the |
8046s | Relic and the fell barrage but the fact |
8048s | that you have the unleash fail to throw |
8049s | into that as well if you really want to |
8052s | slightly awkward as you said Quest |
8054s | thrown away which means none of these |
8055s | cards are discounted if he'd have got |
8056s | some discounts here then he'd be able to |
8059s | do all of this and play the second Relic |
8062s | uh Relic Vault for next turn for the |
8064s | relic of Dimensions which would be |
8065s | completely absurd uh there is also the |
8068s | option here to just go uh just go Reno |
8071s | essentially just Silver Moon unleash and |
8074s | then have the big Relic next to him and |
8076s | then clear up next turn exactly yeah |
8078s | actually like this now that I look at it |
8080s | you can also choose to do this so I |
8083s | think I like the unleash yeah that's |
8084s | what Bunny's going to go for but having |
8086s | seen the Silver Moon then hit the board |
8088s | I was also considered you could just go |
8090s | spell damage relic of Extinction right |
8092s | which is going to clear this board up on |
8093s | its own at that point |
8096s | and now one thing I will say xmg didn't |
8098s | get the board cleared of course their |
8100s | bunny did heal for a lot but with double |
8102s | planted evidence things can go sideways |
8104s | right like because those are you know |
8106s | you can't really play around that card |
8109s | right because it is just every nature |
8111s | sorry every Druid card |
8115s | we have Miracle growth territory yeah |
8117s | probably not right I think you still |
8119s | want to be as aggressive as possible at |
8120s | this point |
8121s | yeah I think if the board was cleared we |
8123s | would talk more about Miracle growth but |
8126s | if xmg can build on this oh |
8130s | another one |
8132s | that's a draw |
8138s | tricky though right because he has just |
8140s | seen Unleashed fell yeah he's ever |
8143s | centuries and try and get the Pride's |
8144s | Fury next turn is that too greedy it's |
8147s | so hard to build a reed though right |
8148s | because |
8150s | I think it's valid to look at that turn |
8152s | and say oh do they have the same thing |
8155s | again next term right did they go |
8157s | unleash fell last turn with like spell |
8159s | damage Unleashed last turn and just so |
8161s | they can then spell damage unleash again |
8163s | this turn and then they get the full |
8165s | clip or did they just have to try and |
8167s | heal to not die exactly yeah exactly |
8169s | it's so different it's really hard to |
8171s | get read and what that play means |
8173s | because that's that turn the bunny had |
8175s | would was a good turn for many different |
8177s | things yeah right like I do respect this |
8180s | from xmg though because this feels like |
8181s | okay they healed a lot I need to catch |
8184s | back up yeah let's make more stuff grow |
8186s | impatient |
8188s | ink is very likely to push bunny off the |
8192s | extinction of the um |
8194s | Dimensions right I'm not sure this was |
8197s | ever going to be a Dimensions turn I to |
8199s | me I think the way this was planned out |
8201s | was heal on four clear on five react on |
8206s | six and then if need be you can just do |
8208s | Relic ball dimensions on seven and |
8210s | that'll end the game |
8215s | hopefully Saul never you know joins |
8217s | Sesame Street or whatever and does the |
8219s | counting game because that is one that's |
8220s | a little bit complicated for kids it's |
8222s | like yeah however because of the way |
8225s | this board is shaped out you can now |
8227s | just choose to take full clear plus |
8228s | Relic Vault this turn right like just go |
8230s | fell barrage Relic bolt here and have |
8232s | like a lot of Dimensions next turn the |
8235s | phantasms are huge though I think |
8237s | they're five fives now right so you are |
8239s | you are losing a lot of opportunity to |
8241s | do this but yeah I think this is correct |
8243s | I mean there's a world right where it's |
8245s | actually just Vault Phantasm phantasms |
8247s | yeah and just be like I win |
8254s | yeah I really like the way this game has |
8255s | been played by Bonnie yep |
8258s | very very solid throughout |
8261s | and honestly like I definitely would |
8262s | have just tried to go Max clear straight |
8264s | away and then been worse off for it you |
8267s | know in in the longer run yeah |
8270s | though what are you liking the look of |
8274s | brings none of it none of it Raven |
8282s | cook just for stats right you have you |
8285s | have you have to do better |
8287s | look it's warming up okay it's been on |
8290s | the oven |
8291s | so wait for the for it to just warm up |
8293s | first before he starts cooking |
8297s | you really have to work on your own |
8298s | sound with this one particular name |
8303s | I can't cope with this okay wait what |
8306s | that's it |
8310s | oh we have been through this I'm not |
8312s | going to labor the point |
8315s | I'm innocent I don't know what you're |
8316s | talking about something yeah yeah yeah |
8319s | hey |
8324s | I do just like the yeah I love this it's |
8327s | going fantastic right yeah yeah this is |
8329s | great this is just well now I'm the |
8331s | aggro Druid what did you do about this |
8333s | fair enough |
8337s | oh yeah and I think as you can see in |
8338s | the top of the screen there that looked |
8340s | like a concede from xmg as he's just |
8342s | beaten on board and when you get beaten |
8344s | at your own game it's normally when |
8346s | you're about to lose but he takes |
8348s | another game in the series and I agree |
8350s | with you there I think that was just |
8352s | extremely extremely clean from bunny |
8355s | Hopper and again xmg did what he could |
8357s | with with the hand he got but I think |
8359s | just the the planning of turns and the |
8361s | execution of it from bunny was just yep |
8364s | ticked all the boxes and guess what he |
8366s | won the game very convincingly |
8368s | yeah and as Raven with sailing xmg just |
8370s | got completely cooked that game |
8373s | um he was blasted off the board |
8375s | extremely efficiently the term rationing |
8378s | out the clear over two turns I think was |
8381s | the key to let's say the key to |
8383s | guaranteed Victory I think taking a |
8386s | closer to full clear that turn still |
8388s | looks a lot like winning in a lot of |
8390s | scenarios but I think bunny saw the line |
8393s | of sort of coming to the same thing at |
8395s | the same time that just kind of locked |
8396s | it up over multiple turns |
8399s | um with that 567 plan I was talking |
8401s | about but then the relic of phantasms |
8403s | was the last draw and then that changed |
8405s | things to you know you didn't even have |
8407s | to roll the dice on the dimensions to |
8409s | end the game with the location you just |
8411s | had that phantasms which was guaranteed |
8414s | to bring it home in the end so yeah |
8417s | great game from bunny Hopper great |
8419s | previous game from bunny Hopper as well |
8420s | in both of the games where bunny has had |
8423s | the option to play Hearthstone he has |
8425s | played some Hearthstone in this series |
8426s | and that's about as much as you can ask |
8428s | and now we're jumping over to the Excel |
8431s | control priest uh the the Long Haul deck |
8435s | here from bunny Hopper maybe will not |
8437s | necessarily be the case going up against |
8439s | xmg's Druid once again but I think I'm |
8441s | gonna spend you know if this game does |
8443s | gone for a while I'm gonna spend the |
8444s | time just thinking how else I'm supposed |
8446s | to say that word because I don't know |
8449s | any other ways so I'm confused as to how |
8452s | you can pronounce it other than what the |
8454s | word is anyway everyone else hears it I |
8458s | promise |
8459s | but hey the word's the word I don't know |
8462s | what I'm supposed to do here no the bird |
8464s | is the word Raven this is very clearly |
8465s | established and I am the bird |
8470s | uh buddy hopping out one game away from |
8473s | moving on here and um keeping some hope |
8476s | alive for the European region I mean of |
8478s | course we have dead draw and love it |
8480s | coming up a little bit later on uh but |
8482s | for now you know I guess team China |
8484s | doing extremely well with you through to |
8486s | top four |
8489s | yeah xmg looking to follow but has an |
8492s | uphill battle now against what has been |
8495s | for me and personally you know my |
8498s | assessment of where the metagame was at |
8500s | the big over performer of the tournament |
8502s | right like I personally didn't feel like |
8504s | control decks with disruption uh had the |
8507s | tools to deal with the combo decks and I |
8511s | would say if you look at the general |
8512s | sentiment around you know boards and |
8514s | social media other people seem to think |
8517s | the same thing uh but having now watched |
8520s | it being played out at the high level it |
8522s | seems like this uh this plague spreader |
8524s | priest is doing wonderful things against |
8526s | a lot of decks |
8529s | yeah I love it I hate it it seems to be |
8531s | getting the job done |
8532s | I was just for a minute quite scared |
8534s | when you started talking about these uh |
8536s | General sentiment on social media I was |
8539s | like well what are we going to talk |
8539s | about ever again |
8541s | really is it |
8545s | [Music] |
8547s | okay well now I'm scared to say crooked |
8549s | is that a problem that's not the word I |
8552s | know I'm just saying like is that what I |
8554s | have to refer to it though |
8557s | thank you |
8560s | uh uh Chef Raven uh okay |
8565s | oh there they are the chef |
8571s | well for xmg making a solid push here |
8574s | does have a lot of buff uh options with |
8576s | the two Herald of natures as well |
8580s | this board's getting deleted next turn |
8582s | isn't it |
8585s | probably I'm gonna go for probably |
8589s | theoretically if you got really cute |
8592s | about it you can buff and then not |
8596s | attack face so that only four Health can |
8598s | get healed and then your cook survives |
8610s | a child of nature here but honestly is |
8614s | there a world in which SMD doesn't |
8615s | attack I don't know that's a terrible |
8618s | play to play around a two-card combo in |
8621s | your opponent's Renault deck where |
8623s | they've drawn seven cards it would |
8625s | disown him as an aggro player yeah it |
8628s | doesn't always also doesn't make a |
8629s | difference because the only minion |
8631s | you're protecting goes to six health |
8635s | is the Crooked cook |
8637s | I can say it it's fine |
8639s | literally what I said I'm sick of this |
8641s | song I feel like this is some kind of |
8643s | plan everyone's got to try and make me |
8645s | look silly I said the same word yeah I |
8648s | get laughed at uh-huh |
8651s | yep that's the system |
8657s | tempted just to chill for a turn here |
8658s | right |
8660s | um I wonder |
8664s | I guess I was thinking of what Pride's |
8666s | fiori does to the board which is I think |
8668s | the you know number one thing bunny |
8670s | needs to think about but I think it does |
8672s | not do enough in terms of how no because |
8674s | so here's the issue right you could just |
8677s | keep The Shard and then if Pride's Fury |
8680s | comes down then you just go Shard |
8683s | zarella Etc there's also just gift right |
8687s | like wouldn't gift to be |
8689s | keep him in roughly the same situation |
8691s | anyway well the so the cook would go to |
8696s | nine Health in that instance right and |
8698s | gift desperate prayer would only heal |
8700s | for eight |
8701s | yeah I guess my point was like does |
8703s | bunny care if there's just a cook on the |
8705s | board right uh |
8707s | um |
8711s | the desperate prayer option was still |
8714s | there but you'd like you'd basically end |
8717s | this turn doing nothing because you |
8718s | don't really get to cycle that much |
8719s | without cycling the The Shard and Shard |
8723s | is necessary to hold on to next turn to |
8725s | make sure not to take a million damage |
8726s | so by using The Shard here it's kind of |
8728s | The Best of Both Worlds because you |
8730s | remove a little bit of the health now so |
8732s | now Pride's Fury comes down you don't |
8734s | need to silence anymore because you |
8735s | actually have enough AOE yes with the |
8737s | the gift the desperate prayer and the |
8739s | zirella to clear the board so this is |
8740s | actually a cute little hidden line |
8742s | optimization that I wasn't thinking |
8744s | about kind of The Best of Both Worlds |
8745s | type playing |
8750s | good thing for xmg this game though is |
8752s | that he isn't in the situation he was in |
8755s | the previous game where even if this |
8756s | board gets cleared well he has more |
8758s | where that came from right he can refill |
8760s | at least one more time that's |
8764s | left |
8767s | problem is this is the worst type of |
8769s | clear coming out here because it's the |
8771s | zirella tempo swing uh clear and then |
8773s | that's going to be backed up by you know |
8775s | the highest quality anti-aggro minion in |
8777s | the entire deck possibly apart from the |
8779s | Colossal with the uh light shower |
8782s | Elemental coming down after that |
8785s | highest quality anti-agro minion except |
8787s | maybe the Colossal was a name pitched in |
8789s | development but it wasn't quite catchy |
8791s | enough |
8792s | no no it got signed off it just didn't |
8794s | fit on the card Ah that's right yeah |
8797s | and also if bunny Hopper doesn't need to |
8800s | go full anti-aggro he now can just play |
8802s | me da which is like insane to just throw |
8805s | down right ah you're a fellow midar |
8808s | enjoyer with the stress on the second |
8810s | syllable |
8811s | is that is that now wrong no that's also |
8814s | how I say it I have no I like what |
8816s | putting an apostrophe in a word means in |
8819s | like Warcraft lore of how to pronounce |
8821s | things is a mystery to me because it's |
8823s | it it doesn't hold to any form of actual |
8826s | etymology that I'm aware of so I just |
8828s | say things that sound cooler yeah yeah |
8830s | it's like you know it sounds right |
8835s | so what's the I'll get this completely |
8837s | right lord lord for Martha Ron is that |
8840s | the name of the card yes |
8843s | but you can say it like really like |
8845s | lotham Arthur on you can say it really |
8847s | like rhythmically which is clearly the |
8849s | correct way to say it because it sounds |
8850s | the best Elvish Style |
8863s | I think bunny can just play it |
8866s | I think so |
8872s | is like how does it die and if it |
8874s | doesn't die it just kills the trog and |
8876s | then |
8878s | when you can just play the light shower |
8880s | behind it if he really needs to I think |
8882s | I like the soldier a lot |
8900s | and already for xmg when you're in this |
8903s | position as you know a deck like a |
8905s | graduate you sit and you're just staring |
8907s | down the fact that you're priest |
8908s | opponent felt comfortable playing this |
8911s | and passing you just think oh no |
8914s | I feel like I'm gonna lose all right |
8917s | even though he's got like a full hand |
8918s | right you still sit there and go my |
8920s | opponent just played this non-torn |
8922s | minion yeah and they're happy about it I |
8925s | am afraid |
8927s | foreign |
8949s | much better off just killing a thing |
8954s | I would imagine you're killing a thing |
8956s | here I don't think at this stage of the |
8959s | game extra one twos or anything you're |
8962s | super concerned about |
8964s | uh because any I imagine any Buffs that |
8967s | xmg has are going to get used on this |
8970s | turn like xfg's just kind of gonna go |
8972s | for blood here although it would be |
8973s | going into the whirlpool term so there |
8976s | is a chance that xmg decides not to all |
8978s | in here |
8980s | but this is kind of board tension |
8983s | o'clock right where xmg kind of has to |
8986s | commit very aggressively to even be |
8988s | significantly ahead of what's being put |
8990s | on board right now |
8992s | that's the problem even just looking at |
8993s | this the board feels more more or less |
8996s | equal |
8997s | especially when you factor in the |
8999s | healing effects |
9000s | and that's not where xmg wants to be so |
9002s | I respect this yeah just go in and it's |
9005s | it either does the job or it doesn't at |
9007s | this point |
9008s | thanks mg basically putting his |
9010s | tournament life on the line to the back |
9012s | of this push |
9017s | so back up to 35 back down to 21 |
9021s | up to 25 again from the live still |
9027s | uh okay |
9029s | and also just rest |
9032s | he wants to |
9034s | yes I offered the gift of the narrow |
9037s | first of course oh or not oh is he just |
9041s | going forward he's just going full yeah |
9042s | either plague spreader or bone caller |
9044s | yeah and that oh the sky of release the |
9048s | sigh of relief from bunny he just |
9049s | already is feeling it |
9051s | okay planted evidence is the draw |
9053s | however planted evidence is always the |
9056s | draw when you get into this kind of |
9057s | position |
9059s | oh |
9061s | foreign |
9065s | and he's in convoke the spirit's |
9068s | territory I suppose which is why this is |
9071s | being held on to at this point why not |
9073s | yeah I don't think a Pride's Fury is |
9076s | going to do much right |
9082s | yeah yeah just play it sister |
9089s | I mean all bodies now bunnies I don't |
9092s | want to say on autopilot because that |
9093s | sounds like a negative thing but just |
9095s | he's just sitting back and saying okay |
9097s | just play the game out right just stay |
9100s | you know stay calm the Minions on board |
9102s | keep ahead on board and it shouldn't be |
9104s | a problem and with force of nature again |
9107s | xmg might play out the next turn or so |
9109s | but the fact that he's just losing Tempo |
9112s | on board every single turn that goes |
9114s | past is not a good sign it is not no |
9119s | we guide us well just to sit there |
9122s | oh now they work |
9129s | around the tree on the box quite well |
9136s | yep just I imagine maximum trades from |
9139s | Bonnie just don't give xmg any wiggle |
9141s | room whatsoever |
9147s | I think Bonnie's starting to feel |
9149s | personally insulted that xmg is still in |
9152s | this game |
9155s | everybody's just like and they say I'm |
9157s | slow |
9160s | but again like I said xmg's tournament |
9163s | live rests on this one single game right |
9166s | now why not hang on for a couple more |
9168s | draws but yeah shaking the head like I |
9171s | said the Pride's Fury just doesn't |
9173s | really achieve what she gets to clear |
9177s | one of there well two of the minions |
9179s | with a hero power and still massively |
9181s | behind on board like it's not looking |
9183s | great and it hasn't been for a while |
9189s | huh |
9193s | can you kill no I can't find it doesn't |
9196s | make a difference the draw |
9208s | foreign |
9210s | but sure |
9212s | yeah none of them deal damage so |
9215s | I guess like you could like Whispers |
9218s | right again |
9220s | just |
9221s | build the board that way you know what I |
9224s | mean like |
9225s | they just doesn't then you can push |
9226s | damage face as well right |
9228s | yep |
9229s | again we're talking about things that |
9232s | don't strictly matter but yeah this is |
9234s | the idea if you just yeah whichever way |
9236s | he wants to do it he just uses this to |
9237s | just kill the board Quicken the game and |
9239s | like I said there is no top deck in the |
9241s | world I believe that saves xmg in a way |
9244s | of goodbye it was a great effort but |
9246s | bunny Hopper is not only going to take |
9247s | this series but move on through the |
9250s | Hearthstone World Championship a huge |
9253s | congratulations there and I think just |
9254s | very well played I do think we're |
9257s | watching bunny Hopper at Peak |
9259s | Performance levels right now everything |
9261s | looks clean the plans are working he is |
9264s | thinking ahead and it's paying off |
9267s | yeah lots of little optimizations |
9270s | throughout all of those games |
9272s | um you know just top down from a |
9273s | top-down perspective the road game |
9275s | against Paladin which is really good |
9277s | from a macro sense right understanding |
9280s | just get on board first oh you have the |
9282s | banner man hand well guess what you |
9283s | spend two turns playing two twos I'm |
9286s | just gonna Jam all this stuff in your |
9287s | face and you won't be able to recover |
9289s | the game then with Demon Hunter you know |
9292s | the Divergent are not clearing and just |
9293s | going with the spell damage heel that |
9295s | was a really good optimization that I |
9296s | did see and then going into the next |
9298s | game with the priest the using The Shard |
9301s | preemptively to get Best of Both Worlds |
9303s | so that you reduce the damage you you |
9306s | silence the Crooked cook so it wasn't |
9307s | continuing to draw cards but you still |
9309s | had the Pride's Fury covered on the next |
9312s | term without needing The Shard uh is a |
9315s | great optimization that I didn't see |
9316s | because I was very fixated on the idea |
9318s | of needing The Shard for that Pride's |
9320s | Fury turn so little optimizations like |
9323s | that which is littered through all of |
9324s | those games from bunny Hopper and I |
9327s | think that is something that human |
9330s | players of his style have been great at |
9332s | for such a long time right it's a |
9334s | similar set of plaudits that we Heap on |
9337s | yala for example where you know we'll |
9339s | look at something we have to speak and |
9341s | we're like okay this looks like the line |
9342s | yala takes 50 60 seconds and then finds |
9345s | something just a little bit different |
9347s | and a little bit hidden that's just ever |
9349s | so slightly better and Bunny Hopper is |
9351s | uh the player of that exact same and |
9354s | then it adds up though right do that a |
9355s | few times and suddenly you end up so |
9357s | much further ahead in the game you |
9360s | wonder how you could possibly lose at |
9362s | that point so yeah very very impressive |
9364s | overall and like I said it does mean |
9365s | that Bunny Hop is going to be facing yui |
9368s | a little bit later on but we still have |
9369s | a couple more matches left in that |
9371s | initial match stage of the top eight |
9373s | we've got xiaote versus dead draw coming |
9375s | right up I know so it's going to be |
9376s | keeping a very close eye on that one and |
9378s | then we have Levick versus possessy |
9380s | coming up as the fourth match of the day |
9382s | so there's plenty more Hearthstone |
9383s | coming up but we've got to go to a break |
9385s | while we set them up so don't go |
9386s | anywhere we'll be right back |
9390s | [Music] |
9395s | thank you |
9402s | [Music] |
9404s | okay so here we are with some this all |
9407s | that with xiaobai first One's Gonna Be |
9410s | Ocean or mountains hiya a big party or a |
9414s | small party like a gathering |
9417s | yeah |
9418s | okay bath or shower |
9421s | yeah |
9422s | okay passenger or driver |
9425s | hey |
9427s | uh City or Countryside |
9430s | yeah |
9431s | work hard or play hard |
9434s | hey |
9436s | [Music] |
9451s | [Music] |
9454s | cats or dogs |
9456s | dogs |
9457s | messy or tidy |
9461s | uh |
9462s | party |
9464s | call or text |
9467s | text |
9468s | a roller coaster or bumper cars |
9470s | roller coaster |
9472s | scary movies or funny movies scary |
9475s | movies |
9476s | uh snowball fight or water balloon |
9478s | fights |
9479s | snowball fight |
9483s | [Music] |
9498s | [Music] |
9505s | [Music] |
9514s | thank you |
9516s | foreign |
9520s | [Music] |
9568s | foreign |
9572s | [Music] |
9589s | world |
9592s | Championship my name is TJ I'm joined by |
9595s | Derek Brown This is the first cast where |
9599s | we're breaking up kind of the Duos for |
9600s | the weekend and of course it has to be |
9603s | TJ and Derek Brown |
9605s | what's up Derek how you been Buddy |
9608s | been an emotional weekend TJ I lost my |
9611s | uh my partner which now I get to say and |
9614s | she can't very quickly and hardly say |
9616s | not that kind of partner don't get that |
9619s | idea I will throw up |
9623s | but yeah I can say whatever I want now |
9625s | she's gone so uh I guess not all bad |
9628s | laughs |
9631s | well I |
9634s | would be perfectly fine being that kind |
9638s | of partner for you Derek thanks teach |
9641s | how much I uh how much I like you but |
9644s | let's get into our match because I like |
9645s | both these players as well shout out to |
9647s | you not like that |
9650s | kind of players |
9651s | um |
9652s | well yeah shout out to Jet draw uh two |
9655s | of the cleanest players from this stage |
9658s | in terms of uh just straight up gameplay |
9660s | and honestly every time they play in |
9662s | tournaments you can't count them out and |
9665s | that's what I appreciate about both of |
9668s | them I have much appreciation for that |
9670s | and dead draw is kind of the player |
9673s | who has been scammed by the system so |
9676s | many times throughout his career that it |
9678s | feels like his time whereas shouty is |
9680s | kind of the guy that everybody else says |
9682s | is the best player all the other Pro |
9684s | players are like yeah that shouty so hot |
9686s | right now |
9688s | but not like that but not like that it's |
9692s | gameplay |
9693s | uh yeah absolutely I mean they they've |
9695s | been saying it for years right you ask |
9697s | any of the top players like Bonnie |
9699s | Hunter he says it all the time as well |
9701s | those are the two main ones that spring |
9703s | to mind but that's like two arguably the |
9706s | two best players of all time in |
9707s | competitive Hearthstone uh they often |
9709s | tout Sheltie as the best player or right |
9711s | up there and you can understand why he's |
9714s | a common practice partner of a lot of |
9716s | the top best players which is where he |
9718s | was mostly known in the western scene uh |
9721s | for the most part but then as you start |
9723s | to look down his stats in recent years |
9724s | he has really been boosting incredibly |
9727s | impressive numbers of his own right you |
9729s | will often run into him at the top of EU |
9731s | Legend ladder if you're playing around |
9733s | there and then of course third world |
9735s | championship having won a Masters Tour |
9737s | as well incredible win rate in Masters |
9740s | tours like at that upper upper echelon |
9742s | of the mid 60s is super impressive and I |
9745s | think he is honestly one of the few |
9747s | players that can put up a a Equitable |
9749s | fight against dead raw when he's on top |
9751s | form as dead draw appears to be right |
9754s | now I think he's been putting the |
9755s | practice in really grinding away and I |
9759s | think there's a very strong argument |
9761s | this is the highest level match of the |
9763s | the top eight |
9764s | uh yes I would say so a match worthy of |
9767s | the finals |
9768s | um is an apt description as well so uh |
9773s | xiaote gonna be opening up with the |
9775s | quest fell Demon Hunter as we take a |
9777s | look at Dead draw who's bringing a |
9779s | little bit of a a different lineup than |
9782s | a lot of the players obviously Quest |
9783s | fell Demon Hunter is there but uh |
9785s | jackpot Rogue which was less popular |
9787s | coming into the tournament than say any |
9790s | of the miracle variations but has been |
9793s | performing with bunny Hopper having the |
9795s | deck in his lineup and making it into |
9798s | that quarterfinals and then also the |
9801s | Mage which honestly |
9805s | did not expect the 40 card |
9809s | ping Mage control Mage to be in any sort |
9814s | of winning lineup this weekend but it |
9816s | has Derek it's there I see it with my |
9818s | own eyes |
9820s | indeed yeah and I think I like dead |
9822s | draw's strategy with this Mage the most |
9825s | as he has been pretty consistently I |
9828s | think Banning Druid uh in all of his |
9831s | games where it's been presented to him |
9833s | and that makes a lot of sense gone I |
9835s | believe are the days where Mage can |
9838s | consistently put up a fight against |
9839s | Druid uh when it was the old version of |
9842s | Magister Dawn grasp not Varden where you |
9846s | got plus two spell damage uh oh sorry |
9848s | plus two damage on your hero power with |
9849s | an honorable kill instead of plus one |
9851s | you could very easily stand up to a |
9853s | druid because you were getting up to |
9854s | eight damage with the hero power and |
9856s | then paying them down with the arcanists |
9858s | plus the uh sorry The Apprentice plus |
9860s | brand as well you could just deal 24 30 |
9863s | damage in a turn quite easily and Druid |
9865s | could not stand up to that now I think |
9867s | it's a little bit harder so I love his |
9868s | band strategy on the Druid and with that |
9870s | being said and done the Mage is honestly |
9872s | just looking pretty strong it's it's got |
9874s | a nice matchup against the Rogue I think |
9876s | because of all the freeze available be |
9878s | it against the death rattle or the the |
9881s | miracle variants that we're seeing not |
9883s | bad against the uh the demon Hunters |
9885s | which we're seeing a lot of once you |
9886s | have the objections slotted in as well |
9888s | it really is something that slips under |
9890s | my radar going into the tournament and |
9892s | the more I see it the more I like it |
9894s | yeah this this lineup from deadra and to |
9897s | an extent bunny Hopper because it's very |
9899s | similar |
9901s | um it's kind of the fly by the seat of |
9904s | your pants lineup is what I like to call |
9906s | it where right you have these control |
9909s | Decks that can Branch to a lot of |
9911s | different paths I call them control |
9913s | decks but you know this archetypes don't |
9915s | exist anymore everything's a combo deck |
9917s | whatever |
9918s | um |
9919s | and uh they have a lot of skill |
9922s | expression you have maneuverability it's |
9924s | not aggro Druid where you could play a |
9926s | heck of a game of hearthstone and come |
9929s | up short because your opponent had the |
9930s | answers |
9932s | um the decks like the the Mage and |
9935s | seafrogue even control priest to an |
9938s | extent are decks where you have time you |
9940s | have this wiggle room you can you can |
9942s | use your skill in the game in more ways |
9946s | than just all in on five and if they |
9948s | have it they have it right |
9950s | um and I think that really suits players |
9952s | like that draw bunny Hopper and uh shout |
9955s | T who also has Thief Rogue even though |
9956s | uh his lineup is more rounded off with |
9959s | the |
9960s | um the Boon priest as well as the |
9963s | non-alignment Jailer Druid which is also |
9968s | something that I uh I didn't expect so |
9971s | uh I I don't know I'm just excited for |
9973s | this match I don't know if that |
9975s | explanation made sense that's what it |
9976s | was in my head fly by the seat of your |
9977s | pants |
9978s | skill expression whatever other Buzz |
9981s | words Buzz phrases you want to use |
9983s | combo Tempo control aggro it's synergy |
9986s | synergy |
9989s | um |
9990s | something like I don't know |
9994s | I don't know he feels pretty cool |
9998s | well an interesting starting hand for |
10000s | both of our competitors here as they |
10003s | enter the first moments of the quarter |
10006s | final relative dimensions alone most of |
10009s | the time puts you in the lead in The |
10011s | Demon Hunter mirror it's just Far and |
10012s | Away the most important card to see in |
10015s | that starting hand but in terms of quest |
10018s | progressions shouty is undeniably in the |
10021s | lead right now with two potential |
10024s | spectral sites leading to some |
10027s | really interesting options as to how you |
10029s | play this with the most obvious being |
10032s | this where you go Relic well onto |
10034s | spectral on three and hope to hit a |
10036s | tradable in order to be able to complete |
10038s | Quest then |
10039s | um but if he doesn't find the dimensions |
10041s | shortly afterwards he's going to be in |
10044s | trouble especially as Deadpool finds the |
10047s | perfect garnish to this hand in the |
10049s | Relic Vault for the dimensions on turn |
10051s | four |
10053s | a little sprinkle of parsley right on oh |
10056s | that'll top it off |
10060s | um uh one fun fact about shout tea that |
10062s | sort of sets them apart from the other |
10063s | competitors |
10065s | um he actually just when he plays |
10066s | Hearthstone lays his monitor on the |
10068s | floor |
10071s | plays with his feet and he he has a |
10074s | custom desk where he uh cut a hole in |
10076s | the middle of the desk and he just looks |
10077s | through the hole at the monitor on the |
10079s | floor and he plays like that said it |
10080s | helps him Focus |
10086s | especially what shouty roughly |
10088s | translates to into English |
10090s | floor monitor |
10103s | you can always count on you |
10106s | to make the stupid things that I say |
10108s | you've been stupid all right |
10112s | uh another Relic fault not watch out do |
10114s | you want to see |
10116s | but |
10119s | could be |
10120s | just a way to chew some things later |
10122s | having sane turns where you could go |
10124s | or like bought something into Relic |
10125s | Vault something |
10127s | but it's going to take a few turns |
10128s | before anything gets online the Saving |
10131s | Grace is at the spectral sites are built |
10132s | in Outcast position dead draws hand |
10134s | outside of that relic of Dimensions is |
10136s | that it is bad yeah I think that was |
10140s | kind of an interesting turn there |
10143s | um where he deliberately didn't play The |
10145s | Fury and |
10146s | I don't know I I kind of felt like I |
10149s | liked |
10151s | playing the fury there I I just often |
10153s | find that the difference between two |
10155s | extra damage if you factor in the plus |
10157s | one and the Jace plus one when it's |
10159s | replayed it's not worth the one extra |
10161s | Mana you have to spend because his hand |
10164s | is so good right now that you know if he |
10166s | draws |
10167s | the need for greed back another relative |
10170s | dimensions a whole bunch of tradables |
10171s | his mana's just spent on card draw and |
10174s | playing his Bell spells in the next few |
10176s | turns so |
10178s | I don't know personally I found as I |
10180s | played more and more |
10182s | um efficient manner expenditure is worth |
10183s | a little bit more than necessarily the |
10186s | uh |
10188s | maximum amount of damage |
10190s | well it's something we should keep our |
10192s | eyes on if their draw has two damage and |
10196s | one Mana off lethal |
10200s | uh shouty on the other side that was |
10202s | walking away with a reasonable enough |
10205s | mid game like he's completed Quest stage |
10207s | one drawn a bunch of cards discounted |
10209s | Jace as the main |
10212s | card that makes a difference the rest |
10213s | not too impactful uh but again it just |
10217s | comes down to Newton's get that relative |
10219s | of Dimensions off the top Pronto or he's |
10221s | going to be in big trouble |
10223s | yeah |
10226s | if he does rip it off the top he's in a |
10228s | good spot |
10231s | but that draws gonna get the uh the |
10235s | first draw |
10236s | of the dimensions |
10239s | see what's in these boxes |
10241s | wow okay okay all right |
10245s | cool |
10246s | it's not what you would have asked for |
10249s | but it's not bad is it yeah I mean we're |
10253s | looking at a possible lethal next turn |
10255s | if the board is dealt with that's Joseph |
10258s | because of Arcanist plus double score |
10260s | and fell barrage Fury uh Fel barrage one |
10264s | Fury uh oh |
10268s | well there is thankfully for shouty a |
10270s | lot of clear potential here uh with the |
10273s | second Relic Vault and two relics in |
10275s | hand one of which being extinctions |
10278s | um he |
10280s | has to have at least something close to |
10283s | a clear here right because you could |
10285s | just go |
10286s | press the location uh relic of phantasms |
10289s | press it again relic of extinctions |
10292s | which would do three three four four |
10295s | which is obviously not going to clear |
10296s | the board but |
10298s | yeah it does quite a lot it takes off |
10300s | some damage you could go uh phantasms |
10305s | um spell damage then button plus uh |
10309s | relative Extinction which would be right |
10312s | uh four four five five |
10315s | which I mean four four six six right |
10318s | yeah four four six six |
10320s | five four four six six |
10323s | the first one is would be two |
10326s | plus two oh no yeah four four five five |
10329s | all right I was using uh wrong wrong |
10332s | maths there add maths oh yes |
10336s | wait he's not double doubling the |
10337s | extinctions no okay yeah yeah |
10339s | that does not work trust me I've tested |
10342s | it extensively |
10343s | oh |
10350s | and those one ones there are a massive |
10353s | difference that stops a huge amount of |
10356s | damage from going face on this turn |
10364s | uh if you're a trade trade phase 24. |
10367s | demons |
10369s | 14. |
10371s | I don't think it's quite there because |
10373s | of the one ones that are in the way |
10377s | yeah it's not is it if you hero powered |
10380s | down one of them but then you can't |
10381s | Theory face which is where a lot of the |
10383s | damage could be 19 plus it'd be 27 max |
10387s | if you hear a power one and trade one |
10388s | right right |
10390s | yeah yeah |
10394s | it's close it is close yeah 27 Max |
10398s | that's assuming that both marks don't |
10400s | hit minions |
10406s | not very good discounts here for their |
10408s | draw yeah and uh also is not getting the |
10412s | um hero power in as well to pair off one |
10415s | of these one ones to make the marks and |
10417s | the bell barrage better but if I mean if |
10419s | the board isn't answered once again |
10421s | there's no only shell in the hand for |
10425s | shouty then |
10428s | still has a bunch yeah with nothing on |
10430s | board Max damage is pretty high |
10432s | especially with access to double Furies |
10434s | coming up this next turn |
10437s | so important these discounts here that's |
10439s | a spell damage that's huge we need |
10441s | unleash Fel now |
10445s | the game now |
10450s | so you would |
10454s | chaos strike down the five five first |
10461s | in order to tank the damage and then go |
10463s | for Guild Trader unleash fell and then |
10467s | trade away something at the end I |
10468s | suppose or first you might as well and |
10471s | obviously Trader one one in to the |
10473s | fourth then |
10476s | you're healing for 12 and you're like |
10481s | you take five of that off so you're |
10483s | feeling for seven so going up to 23 with |
10486s | a one one on board and a three four on |
10489s | board |
10490s | you're definitely not safe but you're a |
10493s | lot safer than you were at the start of |
10494s | this turn yeah |
10512s | oh bad |
10514s | I don't know if that's good or bad even |
10517s | for deadra I guess it's a good draw but |
10519s | like realistically I think they were out |
10521s | for lethal there rather than just to |
10522s | keep drawing |
10527s | and how are you making room for this |
10529s | that you |
10530s | dump |
10531s | Furies I guess if you go sigil Fury |
10537s | you've still got one too many cards in |
10539s | hand it's very awkward |
10541s | and Schoen obviously refills itself |
10544s | and I don't think there's any outs for |
10546s | lethal this turn |
10549s | it's because of the opinions in the way |
10551s | right |
10555s | super specific I think that might |
10557s | technically be but for all intents and |
10559s | purposes I agree it's |
10560s | oh yeah like if you dump super unlikely |
10563s | really exactly yeah and you can't dump |
10566s | the hand complete though because Marcus |
10567s | going to replace himself so |
10571s | I mean oh man those are so strong but he |
10575s | needs to clear off this damage from the |
10577s | board now |
10578s | okay that's a spell |
10582s | okay and then bolt plus we're like a |
10584s | Phantasm so board clear spell damage in |
10587s | hand with a good amount of damage makes |
10591s | a giant board multi-pronged attack |
10594s | indeed whereas shouty still has |
10597s | technically all the tools he's going to |
10599s | need to deal with this that relic of |
10601s | Dimensions again uh looking pretty |
10605s | strong there's still one Extinction left |
10607s | in his deck I believe that he's gonna |
10609s | try and find now |
10612s | and both Guild Traders as well so we can |
10614s | hit uh spell damage plus a mixture of |
10618s | removal so there's the Unleashed felt oh |
10621s | he makes his nose spelled |
10624s | spelled I think that's it |
10628s | just can't clear there's too much on |
10630s | board he could try and trade into relic |
10632s | of extinctions which would clear up two |
10635s | of them |
10637s | uh I think |
10640s | but it needs to be a hit right now one |
10642s | out of six |
10643s | and that's not it oh the guilt trailer |
10646s | was next that's brutal that's all skill |
10650s | traders in the bottom five the last |
10651s | extent Extinction in the bottom five as |
10653s | well yeah |
10655s | needed a lot more than that |
10665s | and it's just gonna hope that there's |
10667s | what literally no damage |
10670s | oh sleep on board lethal on board so |
10674s | there it is dead draw gets there |
10676s | unfortunate last turn for xiaote |
10679s | [Music] |
10680s | um those Demon Hunter mirrors get |
10682s | stressful real quick because |
10685s | yes the early game does matter why am I |
10688s | so high up |
10690s | I can't move my camera |
10694s | I didn't live my uh I didn't lift my |
10696s | chair so my my cat moved my camera I |
10698s | think I'll move it back in a second |
10702s | be here |
10706s | don't talk to me or my son ever again |
10708s | I love you Dad oh |
10712s | I can't my hand disappears that's |
10715s | unfortunate |
10722s | what I was saying now |
10728s | it's actually quite nice being low down |
10732s | I'm good now I'm a little tilted though |
10733s | that's the problem that's okay well so |
10736s | shouty I'd imagine |
10739s | true that but now I get to go to the |
10740s | Boon priest the ultimate anti-tilt deck |
10743s | because you get to play so many cards |
10745s | right |
10748s | you do get to play a lot of cards |
10750s | sunwell as well is like the text on it |
10753s | should just say cards it shouldn't give |
10755s | you any extra information that's just |
10756s | all it does |
10758s | yep identity theft as well |
10762s | you don't even know where you're taking |
10763s | them from you just you're just picking |
10767s | discover two cards |
10769s | from somewhere |
10772s | is it gonna be against the uh oh no of |
10774s | course sorry it's Shelties priesthood |
10776s | can't be up against the Demon Hunter |
10777s | gonna be the Rogue on the other side for |
10779s | uh Tetra which again is kind of cards |
10782s | the deck uh with jackpot and a whole |
10784s | bunch of other discovers as well there's |
10787s | a potential for some old school |
10790s | Hearthstone action here with just |
10791s | discovers deciding the match uh but the |
10794s | the real heart of the gameplay I think |
10796s | is very much just shouty |
10799s | is a tick and Time Bomb waiting to go |
10801s | off with these Radiance and make a huge |
10803s | board and dead draw is the uh the Plucky |
10806s | hero |
10808s | trying to Cobble together some way to |
10810s | get out of this impossible situation |
10812s | like MacGyver |
10814s | yeah it's uh he's just got a couple |
10818s | paper clips |
10820s | and some scrap metal and he has to get |
10824s | together you know chewing gum yeah some |
10827s | way to get out of the building |
10831s | and the I feel like the key to it at |
10834s | least from the games we've seen is the |
10836s | sketchy stranger |
10837s | um |
10839s | injection Judgment of Justice |
10843s | explosive runes |
10846s | counselves as much counterspell ice trap |
10849s | yeah there's a law |
10851s | um just trying to delay or in some cases |
10854s | just you know outright |
10857s | stop it the big combo from happening |
10861s | um outside of that you're beholden to |
10863s | jackpot |
10865s | which is |
10868s | you have to have the ultimate Faith to |
10870s | be able to do that |
10872s | and we'll see what dead draw decides to |
10874s | do and I don't even know if |
10879s | shout out to him is a keep |
10881s | It's gotta be so flexible coin and coin |
10885s | yeah it does give you a lot of |
10886s | flexibility doesn't it yeah so just |
10888s | shout out demise don't want to keep |
10889s | Knoll you want to look for the |
10892s | the scam cards |
10894s | exactly as you said you're beholden to |
10897s | uh jackpot because if you don't be |
10899s | holding it in the start in hand you're |
10901s | in trouble |
10904s | y'all are crazy |
10911s | I think just a full toss from Sheltie on |
10914s | the other side |
10921s | just want to switcheroo |
10933s | okay |
10935s | did Charles got something to work with |
10936s | here perjury is pretty good |
10939s | jackpot of course |
10941s | oh scabs with oh Shadow demise as well |
10946s | um so early yeah we've got a game plan |
10949s | now oh yeah |
10952s | everything's uh |
10954s | coming up jackpot |
10964s | on this time let us see what's in the |
10965s | books |
10966s | oh boo |
10970s | are we gonna go perjury the next turn |
10973s | jackpot trade the cut list that makes |
10976s | sense |
10978s | seems like a reasonable curve |
10982s | how to still got some time before uh |
10985s | anything can really happen double-it |
10987s | identity theft |
10989s | could |
10991s | I don't even know what are you even |
10993s | looking for in Rogue like jackpots of |
10995s | your own right I mean it's not a bad |
10998s | card to get with double Radiance to be |
11001s | fair |
11002s | but it's just it's a big unknown |
11004s | obviously |
11009s | or probably actually the Cutlass out of |
11012s | that Bunch right you need some |
11014s | some cycle |
11017s | oh jackpot |
11021s | it's just so Random like |
11024s | I mean they've seen it give double |
11026s | alignments so far today yeah I know I |
11028s | know but like |
11031s | I don't know it's impossible to judge |
11033s | right like it might be good it might be |
11035s | terrible I'm just saying Cutlass is |
11036s | always decent oh Sprint oh prep Sprint |
11042s | here's your side no not put yourself |
11044s | yeah I did like crap yeah it's prep |
11047s | perhaps a good one |
11051s | all right what are we gonna get |
11054s | Judgment of Justice |
11058s | by the best of these yeah absolutely the |
11061s | others only really offering Bluff value |
11062s | I'd say which |
11064s | is too fickle a prospect to gamble with |
11067s | here |
11074s | yeah I think jackpot then trade the |
11076s | Cutlass seems reasonable spends all the |
11078s | Mana you could trade the Cutlass to look |
11080s | for something a little more proactive |
11082s | like a reconnaissance |
11083s | that's true yeah |
11089s | nice Cutlass idiot yeah rip it |
11095s | oh that's not bad actually those are |
11098s | both pretty good |
11099s | yeah I read them all for |
11102s | uh combo priest but yeah it's the |
11105s | mid-sized boards it's a lot of pressure |
11108s | oh okay |
11112s | wow prep as well |
11114s | I mean there's a handmaiden and a |
11116s | priestess |
11119s | get down the handmaiden right now with |
11121s | the coin that's sick |
11129s | oh okay the hands coming together |
11131s | there's something happening now |
11134s | oh is he popping off this turn okay |
11136s | there's something happening right now I |
11137s | guess |
11141s | gotta look for Boone right now |
11144s | oh that's oh with yeah because that's |
11148s | how close |
11150s | but he can play the oh yeah now because |
11153s | the bone Spike yeah you're talking Spike |
11155s | that's sick |
11156s | oh get your own one one that is pretty |
11158s | insane |
11161s | and this is early like Dedra has plans |
11163s | for a turn six scabs that he could pull |
11166s | off this however is looking to be a |
11168s | little bit too much for him |
11171s | yeah there's no bless so this will give |
11173s | him two turns uh-huh |
11176s | but still that doesn't line up |
11183s | he needs to draw |
11184s | crap you yeah oh coin coin prep bone |
11188s | Spike plus scabs four gets it |
11192s | Trickster |
11195s | uh so you trickster flame strikes so the |
11197s | Judgment of Justice blocks the damage |
11199s | yeah that's nice |
11204s | and then you have three turns so you |
11206s | should be able to get there and you have |
11207s | the prep out as well |
11209s | I think you can just about survive that |
11211s | yeah |
11213s | what the jackpot on the other side oh |
11218s | it match it dude so a five Mana spell |
11221s | specifically is playable on the same |
11223s | turn as well right |
11225s | yep |
11228s | anime dead pretty useless right about |
11230s | now yeah |
11233s | oh |
11236s | okay |
11238s | no way still no way of answering dealing |
11242s | with the the Judgment of Justice right |
11243s | now but that is absolutely bizonkers |
11246s | it's so Random |
11248s | well when you picked a jackpot |
11252s | okay fine I'll take the L |
11254s | I was wrong I'd be a little dweeb with a |
11257s | Cutlass right now |
11260s | watch out |
11261s | or do you do you play deal with the |
11263s | devil in order to have a judgment of |
11265s | Justice attack |
11268s | especially you can Sprint and find like |
11270s | double blessing you can deal with the |
11271s | devil Sprint find double bless |
11275s | yeah maybe you throw down the anime dead |
11277s | as well just to have like the maximum |
11280s | possible chance of being able to attack |
11282s | with something |
11283s | or you just take the risk |
11291s | fair enough |
11298s | yeah I think if you're gonna play deal |
11300s | with the Devil the attack |
11303s | okay sketchy stranger |
11307s | uh or do you just flame strike again yep |
11309s | flame strike is a very real possibility |
11311s | I don't think you can afford to go |
11313s | neptun because of the overload yeah you |
11316s | definitely don't want to overload so |
11318s | Contraband stash it is just a flame |
11321s | strike but I think it's good enough here |
11322s | you can even pre-bump the tutu |
11328s | unless he wants to tank six |
11333s | like |
11334s | sketchy stranger it does have some |
11336s | upside because you could dig for counter |
11338s | spell or ice trap you know they have a |
11340s | mystery card in hand |
11342s | it could be a Sprint you know it could |
11344s | be something that just brings them right |
11345s | back into the game |
11349s | all right sketchy stranger it is |
11353s | I guess Contraband stash could be |
11355s | necessary later on |
11358s | that's the ice trap |
11365s | it's got to be the best out of these |
11367s | like a paladin spell they're never gonna |
11369s | fall for |
11370s | you know it's easily to deal with even |
11372s | for Bluff value they can deal with the |
11373s | scary ones of Reckoning and Judgment of |
11375s | Justice |
11382s | and boy oh boy is the secret an absolute |
11385s | nightmare for Sheltie |
11391s | oh that's |
11393s | that's a bummer |
11397s | you could still be snake |
11400s | maneuvers |
11401s | yeah |
11403s | or the uh deal six one that I forget the |
11405s | name of but |
11408s | ocean denied that's the one |
11412s | but it's ice trap and that makes Dedra |
11416s | sit up in his chair he's getting excited |
11418s | now as this is looking very very |
11421s | winnable at this point |
11424s | foreign |
11427s | still not over for either player at all |
11431s | but dead draw got to what he needed to |
11433s | do he bridged the Gap into coin coin |
11435s | scabs and now I think he's got the upper |
11437s | hand |
11440s | yeah and gets to kill off the hand |
11442s | meeting as well |
11445s | uh which is nice so you don't put that |
11447s | back in hand he knows there's a Sprint |
11448s | there |
11450s | um the side strap doesn't get rid of it |
11451s | but uh does have he knows he has like a |
11455s | turd to be able to react and next turn |
11458s | can like find a potion belt |
11461s | find another secret with the sketchy |
11463s | stranger where you followed |
11467s | a lot of options |
11468s | count as well that's another good one |
11472s | it's only at 16 though so if at any |
11475s | point a board sticks |
11476s | yeah |
11478s | there could be some trouble but chaoti |
11481s | looks like has to spend the entire turn |
11483s | here uh with just the Sprint |
11493s | there's there is a question as to |
11494s | whether you play the radiant Elemental |
11496s | first because if you hit the second |
11498s | devour now that you've drawn one |
11501s | you |
11503s | actually pull quite far into the lead so |
11506s | I I think I actually like that risk |
11511s | oh I hit it as well well there's still |
11513s | gonna be they're still going to be there |
11515s | next turn exactly I think that's his |
11517s | thinking yeah and next turn might be |
11520s | even better because you don't give |
11521s | deadro a chance to like react to the |
11523s | radiant Elemental uh and maybe even kill |
11526s | it off which |
11528s | uh he would nearly be able to would just |
11532s | command of Neptune right yeah yeah |
11535s | um and then you're you're down both your |
11537s | devours so your next Boon is not going |
11539s | to be |
11540s | fantastic |
11542s | um |
11543s | at least not as good so |
11547s | okay |
11550s | so it's just a straight up case of Max |
11552s | stats on board right for for dead draw |
11555s | here so I'm thinking counter spell |
11558s | command null |
11560s | yep uh you've seen both their jackpot |
11563s | hands it's not AOE so you have Liberty |
11565s | to go wide on the board if they want to |
11568s | play sunwell here like they can take the |
11570s | risk but they have to play another spell |
11571s | first anyway |
11573s | yeah you don't even need wow |
11577s | damage face right yeah well you don't |
11580s | even need to play the null because |
11582s | most likely it's gonna have to rush into |
11584s | something next turn anyway it's a fair |
11586s | point yeah oh but this should be the |
11589s | rest of the deck for shouty so this |
11591s | would be the last push |
11595s | or maybe not the rest of the deck |
11597s | because there's double Switcheroo in the |
11599s | deck with only a single raid Elemental |
11601s | to draw |
11602s | yeah both reanimate Deads are done as |
11605s | well right yeah but has handmaiden and |
11608s | and double that's light well though oh |
11611s | sonwell sorry yeah that's the that's the |
11613s | big one that we wanted to see |
11618s | so you can play |
11619s | one more spelling will still cost zero |
11622s | because it's reduced in cost per one |
11623s | actually two more I think |
11625s | is the radiant as well |
11630s | ah okay let's see what he can pull out |
11632s | of his hat |
11634s | cool |
11639s | Mark of the wild perjury explosive rooms |
11641s | Gardens Grace look not great huh is that |
11645s | another deal with the devil no it's the |
11648s | six Squad Proving Grounds right yeah |
11649s | yeah that's the one yeah |
11653s | and it's not a bad turn again for this |
11656s | point in the game for Boone priest |
11663s | does depend on the secret here you can |
11665s | kill it with Contraband stash |
11671s | man stash cast flame striking command of |
11674s | nebulon which is 24 that's 25 yeah |
11677s | that'll do it |
11678s | 25 yeah stronger than it once was you're |
11682s | absolutely 2014 cool TJ casting back |
11690s | even gets a private eye out of this too |
11692s | and a counter spell oh boy oh the ice |
11696s | trapped the Justice oh it's so much |
11698s | isn't it oh you didn't lie TJ these |
11701s | sketchy strangers are absolutely broken |
11703s | in this matchup yup |
11711s | uh Proving Grounds efficacy |
11715s | it's gonna pull |
11716s | a radiant from his deck as the one |
11719s | remaining minion |
11723s | which is not going to end well for that |
11726s | radian I'm gonna say |
11729s | I guess you just Boone the private eye I |
11733s | have to like cast perjury first or |
11735s | something |
11736s | in Boone bless no because there's an ice |
11739s | trap too oh geez |
11745s | there's nothing man this game's over he |
11747s | he just missed on the uh the sunwell |
11749s | Spells yeah |
11751s | perjury into how can you get any random |
11756s | generation you can't right |
11760s | you can get Rogue Secrets obviously but |
11763s | that still doesn't open up any extra |
11765s | good options |
11773s | [Music] |
11775s | like there used to be that that Rogue |
11777s | secret that gave spells to your hand |
11778s | based on what your opponent played uh I |
11781s | can't remember what that was called |
11783s | gone |
11785s | yeah |
11787s | but nowadays I think it's a very short |
11791s | road there's not a chain of discoveries |
11792s | you can get from Secrets anymore |
11795s | It's gotta go |
11797s | in with the uh |
11800s | radiant next turn right I hope you can |
11803s | draw it |
11804s | You just prove it grounds it |
11808s | was that that you just picked objection |
11810s | objection oh my God |
11813s | that's such BM Oh man |
11818s | AZ and |
11820s | I don't know Dreadful Dreadful yeah just |
11823s | yeah |
11825s | it's like an emergency |
11829s | here comes all the rest |
11836s | let it play something |
11839s | of the children |
11846s | Dicky situation |
11848s | hope that you get a minion that you can |
11850s | just buff yeah uh Jackson and not gonna |
11855s | do it |
11856s | 2-0 up |
11858s | in this quarterfinal |
11860s | over Xiao tea |
11862s | making it work |
11863s | [Music] |
11868s | yeah centro's just looking real strong |
11870s | so far it was a very solid game from the |
11873s | get-go I mean |
11874s | I imagine he kind of had it in the back |
11877s | of his mind from turn one where he kept |
11879s | the uh the shadow of demise but as soon |
11882s | as he drew the scabs like he saw it we |
11884s | saw it straight away that's the game |
11885s | plan you just have to survive till turn |
11887s | six and he did that in the uh the best |
11889s | way possible I think the one thing it |
11892s | was like a bit weird was again his |
11894s | trading Cutlass order I do agree that |
11896s | that should have been done in a |
11898s | different order I don't really know what |
11899s | he was hoping to yeah exactly I guess |
11902s | like more likely that you hit the |
11905s | uh yeah I guess actually was trying to |
11907s | hit specifically the uh the bone Spike |
11909s | right because then you could do scabs |
11911s | one turn earlier and it means you have a |
11913s | slightly higher chance of doing that |
11915s | which okay fair enough that's reasonable |
11917s | if that's your reasoning yeah yeah |
11920s | um from xiaoti's side the only even |
11922s | quite I loved his early pop-off to be |
11924s | able to play around the potential scabs |
11926s | uh the attack into the Judgment of |
11928s | Justice |
11929s | uh he's the only one right |
11932s | obviously ice trap would have |
11933s | interrupted the Sprint anyway but if you |
11935s | don't attack and you have other meetings |
11937s | on board you have the chance to attack |
11939s | with one of the smaller minions into the |
11941s | Judgment of justice and then even find |
11942s | lethal from the Sprint the following |
11944s | turn |
11945s | um |
11947s | that one is you know like it didn't |
11950s | change the outcome of the game because |
11953s | the Sprint would have gotten ice trapped |
11955s | anyway so there would have been no |
11956s | chance |
11958s | um and then the game would have played |
11959s | out nearly exactly the same from there |
11961s | however |
11963s | could have been a possibility at least |
11965s | to think about not attacking it leaving |
11967s | the secret up and then using one of the |
11969s | small means Riot |
11972s | the end of it all though just the Mage |
11976s | left over for dead draw taking a look at |
11978s | the remaining decks for shouty which is |
11981s | all of them apart from the priest uh |
11982s | sorry apart from the Druid which has |
11984s | been banned away uh priest is what he's |
11986s | going to be lining up first and again |
11988s | this is one of the things I like about |
11990s | this Mage this particular build of it as |
11992s | well with double blizzard the grace age |
11994s | parrot Commander savara there's just so |
11998s | much stall in this deck uh like I I kind |
12002s | of founded the difference between the 30 |
12003s | card and the 40 card variants when that |
12005s | was a bit of more of a debate |
12007s | pre-expansion uh was that the 40 card |
12009s | versions felt a little bit inconsistent |
12012s | in their stalling mechanisms whereas the |
12014s | 30 card version you could very commonly |
12017s | hit like three or four solid Alibis in a |
12019s | row or a bunch of freeze with flurries |
12022s | into vardens and to locations because |
12024s | you had so much consistency in your draw |
12025s | and the smaller deck size but when |
12027s | you're transitioning over to this build |
12029s | of the deck with double poly double |
12030s | blizzard double gray Sage power the uh |
12033s | Varden in there as well you've still got |
12035s | the solid Alibis and the locations |
12037s | there's so much stall in this deck the |
12040s | priest just has an absolute nightmare |
12043s | trying to even do the most basic level |
12045s | of its game plan |
12050s | yeah I mean we saw it in action it was |
12052s | yesterday right we started in action oh |
12054s | yes exactly and it just seems so |
12057s | frustrating for the priest like it at a |
12061s | certain point in the game it just feels |
12063s | like no matter what you do |
12065s | you're gonna get got |
12067s | um and dead draw keeps the mass |
12069s | polymorph in the opening hand obviously |
12072s | most of the time with the current |
12074s | eraboon priest the pop pop happens uh |
12078s | sooner and then turn seven but that's |
12079s | where all the other stall tactics that |
12081s | you mentioned come into play just by |
12083s | time with uh with the flurries with the |
12086s | location things like that until you get |
12088s | there so |
12092s | okay okay |
12094s | um that's a three damage wildfire |
12099s | I think you just play it yeah because if |
12102s | you pick up a playable three you'd want |
12105s | to get that down so you can curve out |
12106s | with Cold Case the early pings don't |
12108s | really matter because you don't really |
12109s | want to give them shorter than or gifted |
12112s | the Naruto draws early anyway yeah in |
12115s | case they're looking for a specific |
12116s | piece so yeah just play off Curve cast |
12118s | it I agree |
12119s | I think there's enough drills uh that |
12121s | make it worth uh playing it there uh |
12123s | shouty though I didn't get to see what |
12125s | card you picked on the uh discover or |
12128s | the dredge I should say sorry uh but |
12131s | yeah yeah going for short instead of the |
12132s | handmaiden which is very interesting to |
12135s | me because I mean I certainly would have |
12137s | gone handmade in there even though I |
12139s | appreciate you don't get the reduction |
12141s | in cost just because this hand is |
12143s | screaming for one right it really wants |
12146s | some strong card draw and given that you |
12148s | have a little bit more time against Mage |
12150s | most of the time I think I liked going |
12153s | for |
12153s | the handmaiden but it's again |
12157s | fascinating to see a difference in |
12158s | opinion this is a kind of a big thing it |
12162s | doesn't see the mass poly |
12165s | that's true actually that's really bad |
12167s | for him Just for information he doesn't |
12169s | see it yeah at least that could mean he |
12172s | could have the information that he needs |
12173s | to go off before turn seven comes around |
12175s | or that he needs to do like a a halfway |
12179s | pop off I guess he knows that these |
12181s | aren't in the hand but that doesn't give |
12183s | him much information either maybe the |
12184s | Varden uh uh I think it's Finley here |
12188s | yeah |
12189s | just have a re-roll in your hand uh the |
12191s | problem is with both of these cards |
12193s | though that he's picked up is they mess |
12195s | with animate Dead uh which at this point |
12198s | in the game is really really bad uh |
12201s | taking a 50 50 on anime dead to get a |
12204s | skeleton or what a one in three I |
12206s | suppose it would be at that point if you |
12207s | play The Cold Case uh to hit the |
12210s | uh raging Elemental is not something you |
12213s | want to do at all so I don't think this |
12215s | uh Cold Case is going to be played for a |
12217s | good while |
12218s | geez this matchup feels miserable like |
12221s | I'm just looking at the hand from dead |
12223s | draw and I'm just like how does xiaote |
12226s | ever win I mean sunwall exists identity |
12230s | theft exists |
12232s | get like a dawn like the the big dong |
12235s | grasp |
12237s | it's gonna recast a cold case like |
12241s | it could recast sunwell also |
12244s | you cast on well before you play the Don |
12246s | grasp uh |
12250s | is Holy I wasn't actually sure yeah |
12252s | obviously you play a lot more holy |
12254s | spells so yeah yeah yeah uh |
12257s | but there's like a possibility right |
12259s | that is a chance |
12261s | no |
12263s | okay good minions very good Minions that |
12266s | gives them the pop of potential |
12268s | not |
12270s | now certainly but |
12273s | next turn maybe the turn after the end |
12276s | is four and there's no car draw which is |
12279s | the biggest thing I guess you could just |
12281s | before you burn one |
12283s | okay |
12285s | does not feel good |
12287s | [Music] |
12290s | oh it's a nice pickup though for dead |
12292s | draw actually just being able to go |
12294s | Cold Case sorceress uh to get Polly |
12297s | online for next turn |
12301s | uh I guess the one because he had the |
12303s | blizzard but you know sure yeah yeah |
12306s | um |
12306s | I guess just considering with a full |
12308s | hand from his opponent there's a very |
12310s | there's a reasonable chance that he has |
12312s | double Shadow a devour so we might not |
12315s | want to play The Cold Case and Juice up |
12318s | that combo turn next turn but if |
12320s | anything else these skeletons are just |
12322s | juicy bait uh for Sheltie to go in and |
12325s | then uh sheepify everything next turn |
12330s | that's the rough over to draw to |
12335s | yeah and this looks like it's just gonna |
12337s | be the radiant plus the Cold Case |
12340s | okay sure |
12342s | have a chance to keep this alive but I |
12345s | don't think this can't be ah |
12351s | okay is it a go turn because you're |
12354s | playing everything except identity death |
12356s | right and right they raise the elemental |
12358s | plus the Boon are gonna be pretty big |
12362s | foreign |
12372s | Ty is just starting to realize that |
12379s | not blaming him for go again he had to |
12381s | do something this game and it just gets |
12383s | more and more likely that his opponent |
12384s | has blizzard poly more dress anything to |
12388s | be able to clear all this up |
12393s | uh but this side |
12395s | do not think even if there wasn't a mass |
12398s | poly like |
12400s | detroiters really does not struggle too |
12402s | much to clear this up at all yeah it |
12405s | doesn't even have to mask Bali can get |
12407s | out more resources first |
12410s | just blizzard |
12418s | could even like Mig trades see where the |
12420s | volatile skeletons go and then flurry |
12422s | okay whatever just get the flip yeah |
12426s | yeah shouty knew it was a possibility |
12429s | with the way that the Shivering |
12430s | sorceress works |
12434s | has been unable to get his foot in the |
12436s | door this entire Series Dead draw has |
12440s | just felt like his lineup is so well |
12442s | positioned to take down these exact |
12444s | styles of decks and again the more I see |
12447s | it go on and on the more I think the |
12448s | bunny and dead draw just have such a |
12451s | stunner of a lineup here |
12456s | and it's like jati was close right also |
12458s | has the uh the jackpot Rogue Demon |
12461s | Hunter |
12471s | how to make that I mean does that do |
12474s | anything yeah |
12476s | no nothing's died right oh he can get |
12481s | you back a sheep |
12482s | so Switcheroo is the the only one that |
12485s | really makes sense here draw the handle |
12486s | it in |
12488s | um |
12490s | and then identity theft |
12493s | Auto grasp gets Sun well yeah you're |
12497s | right right that's it we're well into |
12499s | that territory now yeah |
12502s | yeah but with the way this has gone and |
12504s | xiaote not putting on pressure dead draw |
12506s | with double Wildfire can end this game |
12509s | quick with more drush in hand incredibly |
12511s | quick yeah this is |
12513s | if not to turn lethal definitely three |
12516s | turn lethal he's setting up |
12518s | yeah it's pushing seven more damage next |
12520s | turn there's going to be seven damage |
12522s | sticking on board |
12529s | ah it's gonna be one is it one off |
12534s | that's pretty sick |
12540s | blurry |
12541s | yeah oh those are the handmade and |
12544s | Dreadful |
12546s | that's it I mean without the hand in |
12548s | this tent I'm finally sure I guess you |
12551s | could go with instead oh parrot you can |
12555s | recast sunwell |
12557s | love it now we're talking |
12559s | oh geez |
12567s | okay it's a decent enough hand actually |
12570s | to redraw the sunwell as well for next |
12572s | turn |
12579s | I made that a sheep |
12582s | nope he's out |
12585s | oh and look at that |
12587s | the pop-off from dead draw as he gets it |
12589s | done 3-0 sweep one of the most dominant |
12592s | series we've seen uh so far this |
12594s | tournament is fair to say really uh no |
12597s | ability for Sheltie to get into that |
12598s | game at all as he went all in a couple |
12600s | times dead draw had the perfect answers |
12602s | each and every time and he's now just a |
12605s | uh a poultry two series away from |
12608s | becoming the world champion it's it's |
12610s | within his grasps now but yet still the |
12613s | level of competition he has to overcome |
12615s | it does not slow down at all |
12618s | no it really doesn't and honestly at |
12621s | this point like |
12623s | I'm rooting for the Dead Drop bunny |
12625s | Hopper finals oh I imagine you're on |
12628s | separate sides of the bracket so it's |
12629s | possible and like seeing those similar |
12634s | styles of lineups in a final I mean it'd |
12636s | be a very long final but I feel like |
12640s | that's fitting for a world championship |
12642s | we've had so many world championships as |
12644s | of late that are just like you know uh |
12646s | like 30 minute Affairs just people |
12648s | players jamming their cards back and |
12650s | forth hitting each other in the face |
12653s | I need some jackpots in my life |
12656s | we have uh one more semi-finals uh |
12660s | position left open it's going to be |
12661s | between Levick and possessi uh big story |
12663s | line going to that last quarterfinal is |
12666s | Essie's chance to defend his title be |
12668s | the first player to do that in the |
12670s | history of hearthstone and win |
12671s | back-to-back World Championships but |
12674s | Levick is going to be that first |
12675s | Challenge and I think |
12678s | did you who did you pick as your |
12680s | prediction to win come on CJ who are you |
12683s | talking to |
12684s | possessy obviously my boy okay Raven and |
12688s | I both picked Levick I think so there's |
12690s | a lot of predictions on the line living |
12693s | just looked real clean and possessy |
12695s | looked |
12696s | not clean after all it never does that's |
12700s | why I love him he plays so bad |
12703s | he's still the best player in the world |
12705s | that's how good he is he doesn't need to |
12708s | play well he's so good that he digs |
12711s | himself to a hole exactly and then he |
12714s | uses his giant muscles climb out of the |
12718s | same hole that he just dug for himself |
12719s | just to prove that he can |
12722s | yeah and levick's just on the side like |
12724s | is that intimidating I really don't get |
12727s | what the point of this was yeah |
12729s | possessively just growling at the ground |
12734s | but one thing's for certain that match |
12737s | should be a good one so you're going to |
12740s | want to make sure you stick around for |
12741s | that but before we jump into that last |
12743s | quarterfile the fourth and final |
12745s | quarterfinal as we approach the the end |
12748s | of the world championship we are gonna |
12749s | have to go to a quick break uh but don't |
12752s | go anywhere more action to come right |
12754s | after this |
12755s | foreign |
12757s | [Music] |
12767s | [Music] |
12772s | cats or dogs cat |
12776s | messy or tidy tidy call or text face |
12783s | I feel like anybody under the age of |
12786s | Audi is gonna say text scary movie or |
12790s | funny movie funny movie |
12793s | snowball fight or water balloon fight |
12797s | snowboard |
12800s | [Music] |
12813s | [Music] |
12818s | cats or dogs |
12823s | good man Messi or tidy |
12826s | Mercy yeah yeah |
12829s | call or text |
12833s | everyone's gonna say text |
12836s | uh roller coasters or bumper cars |
12840s | rollerbusters okay |
12843s | scary movie or funny movie scary |
12847s | wow oh my first my first scary movie |
12849s | answer nice |
12851s | snowball fight or water balloon fight |
12860s | [Music] |
12862s | foreign |
12864s | [Music] |
12882s | [Music] |
12887s | [Music] |
12892s | foreign |
12895s | [Music] |
12907s | [Music] |
12920s | foreign |
12922s | [Music] |
12935s | [Music] |
12949s | we definitely weren't ready but we're |
12951s | ready now it's time to go as I'm sorting |
12954s | out my hair on camera it's fine at |
12956s | Levick versus possessive is coming right |
12959s | up for you guys we're so eager to get |
12961s | going we didn't even bother rolling the |
12963s | intro Lorinda is going to be joining me |
12965s | now not subtle as I'm sure subtle is now |
12967s | currently enjoying himself laughing at |
12968s | the opening uh Lorinda how's it going |
12970s | Mateen are you ready for this uh final |
12972s | final initial match if that makes sense |
12975s | like levik versus possessi a lot on the |
12977s | line but different stories for both of |
12979s | these players yeah absolutely a chance |
12982s | for somebody to be retain a title has |
12984s | never happened before in the Hearthstone |
12986s | World Championships at least we have had |
12988s | people win various things back to back |
12990s | blinds winning the Masters Tour back to |
12991s | back that sort of thing but two world |
12993s | championships in a row Gloria came so |
12995s | close but possesses the only one who can |
12996s | do that this year and Levick who I'm |
12999s | levick's second biggest fan I was the |
13002s | second earliest person to pick out how |
13003s | great Levick was and noticed him coming |
13005s | but Raven I'll come seed it you you've |
13008s | been singing live Express for a long |
13010s | time |
13011s | and I think it's |
13013s | it's for example when Saul talks about a |
13015s | player you know he goes in depth uses |
13016s | all these fancy words and honestly my |
13019s | go-to description of Levick since the |
13021s | first time I saw him play on stream was |
13023s | that every single turn of each game he |
13027s | just plays very well that's it and that |
13030s | I don't mean that as a negative of |
13031s | course that that's all he does but yeah |
13034s | he just plays exceptionally well very |
13036s | consistently and I think when we're |
13038s | talking about these two players yes one |
13041s | of them is a world champion and one of |
13043s | them isn't but I will say in terms of |
13045s | just consistently strong play I think |
13048s | Levick you know beats the the champ out |
13050s | on this one because possessi although a |
13052s | fantastic player has you know does have |
13055s | hiccups right we've seen it and he |
13057s | doesn't get punished too heavily by the |
13058s | most of the time but they do exist and I |
13061s | think that's a an issue Levick doesn't |
13063s | actually currently suffer from yeah it's |
13065s | something that happens quite a lot with |
13067s | these players who just don't make |
13068s | glaring mistakes ever it gets difficult |
13071s | to sort of say well they just play good |
13073s | and don't make mistakes that's that's |
13074s | not exciting that's not catchy people |
13076s | forget them but banterface suffers from |
13077s | the same thing super good player doesn't |
13080s | make mistakes |
13081s | great that's the description so people |
13083s | yeah it's a great description which |
13086s | people describe me like that doesn't |
13087s | make mistakes super good player they'll |
13089s | be well happy but people it doesn't |
13091s | have rememberability |
13093s | yeah but Levick will be a member of our |
13095s | Lives if he wins this world championship |
13097s | for absolute sure yeah 100 and look at |
13100s | the lineups here double Demon Hunter |
13102s | bands so both it's one of the I think |
13104s | the few times this weekend where we've |
13107s | just seen what I would call just a band |
13109s | the best deck strategy right right |
13111s | because to me Demon Hunter just is the |
13112s | best deck in the game right now and |
13114s | we're just seeing double Demon Hunter |
13115s | band but both players have quite |
13117s | different lineups even after that uh the |
13119s | uh XL Rogue they're the Ping Mage we |
13122s | have from Levick as well and then the |
13124s | Boon priest it looks like we're going to |
13126s | be having the Boon priest go up against |
13127s | the possesses Rogue first of all and I |
13131s | do believe I'm gonna triple check before |
13133s | I sound very stupid that uh yeah the |
13135s | Rogue from possessi is going to be the |
13137s | Draco Rogue right so then both decks |
13140s | trying to do very similar things to the |
13142s | extent that Gia called uh the priest a |
13145s | draca rogue at one point I know yeah in |
13147s | the day which cracked me up a little bit |
13148s | but um but yeah both decks doing trying |
13150s | to effectively do the same thing but |
13153s | which one for you laurinda does it more |
13155s | consistently which one's got the edge |
13156s | here would you say I think the priest |
13158s | but only fractionally and in this entire |
13161s | matchup like the three remaining decks |
13162s | on either side a lot of the games are |
13165s | going to be quite polarized I think in |
13167s | favor of one or the other so with this |
13169s | being quite a close one this opening |
13171s | game of this series might actually be |
13173s | very very important we talk about it in |
13175s | Conquest a lot uh some wins are worth a |
13177s | bit more than others this is a big one I |
13180s | think getting the win with this kind of |
13182s | 50 50 early on will set the scene for |
13184s | who goes through to the semi-finals yeah |
13187s | it's a big deal right because on the |
13189s | surface here with with this matchup |
13191s | specifically of course you'd say well |
13193s | priest can probably have enough time to |
13195s | you know in your average game just |
13197s | drawing of cards pop off and also they |
13200s | make massive taunts a lot of the time |
13202s | taunts that are bigger than even a good |
13204s | tracker weapon but the problem is with |
13207s | the potions or the concoctions that the |
13210s | road can make it does mean that there's |
13212s | actual ways to just instant destroy |
13214s | opponents minions and I think that is by |
13217s | far the best effect from these like new |
13220s | this new potion Style with Rogue right |
13222s | is that I think if they didn't have that |
13224s | effect that just says destroy an enemy |
13226s | minion we could even question whether |
13228s | players would even bring it or not |
13231s | uh yeah |
13233s | I agree with the first three quarters of |
13236s | that I think they'd still bring It |
13237s | Anyway honestly but I I do think that |
13240s | the potions are so good and so versatile |
13243s | that let's say that one didn't exist it |
13244s | would still be good but obviously this |
13246s | matter would be a heck of a lot worse uh |
13248s | just drawing two cards is still super |
13251s | good doing the three damage is still |
13252s | pretty good quite often because you know |
13254s | you need to do a bit more extra damage |
13255s | to finish games but yes I do agree in |
13257s | this matchup absolutely that is a |
13260s | superbly important superbly important |
13262s | yeah let's go with it take it superbly |
13264s | important part of the matchup and here |
13266s | we're just checking out some of the uh |
13268s | notable achievements for possessive |
13270s | course but none more so than getting |
13272s | your own card in the game due to being a |
13275s | world champion so he is just a few |
13279s | matches away from doing the unthinkable |
13283s | which is very very exciting indeed but |
13286s | like I said he's got a tough player to |
13288s | try and beat just to make it to top four |
13290s | for now as we take a look at this uh |
13292s | Draco Rogue with the double all Sprint |
13294s | in there and the war Masters as well the |
13298s | zoo is just starting to you know beef |
13299s | out a few different versions of this |
13302s | Draco Rogue I think before the expansion |
13304s | we were just seeing well this just is |
13307s | the Rogue these are the 30 cards but |
13309s | there's definitely a lot more leeway now |
13310s | in terms of the builds right |
13313s | yeah absolutely like you first of all |
13315s | got to build like we're actually calling |
13316s | it Draco Rogue because I'm still calling |
13319s | it Miracle Rogue but Miracle Rogue is |
13320s | shark Rogue and sharkberg was death |
13323s | battle road but death battle Rogue now |
13325s | has totally different cars like |
13327s | Invincible in it but Invincible Road |
13329s | doesn't work because you might be |
13331s | playing the Jambo version of it it's |
13333s | just absolutely nutty how Road can be |
13335s | built right now as hopefully that just |
13338s | showed you there's so many different |
13339s | ways to do it and they're all different |
13342s | archetypes because within those |
13343s | archetypes as you were pointing to then |
13345s | you can build it to just go for Draco |
13346s | you can build it with Edwin's and |
13348s | Sprints you can build it without a |
13349s | Sprint you can build it with far more |
13351s | potion stuff so you don't really need |
13353s | the Edwin always although people still |
13354s | play it and so on it's ridiculous so a |
13358s | lot of prep will have gone into these |
13359s | decks even though they look like they're |
13361s | just net deck there will be so many |
13362s | little decisions to make sure your |
13364s | lineup does what you want it to do going |
13366s | into these now already looking at the |
13368s | opening hands here on the top for levix |
13369s | Switcheroo as well as having a boon |
13372s | available and just a solid curve in |
13374s | general and on the bottom for possessy a |
13377s | shroud of concealment and draca just |
13379s | already in hand with the shadow of |
13381s | course being a you know an ever-present |
13383s | threat in itself both players do have |
13386s | the ability to get the job done here and |
13389s | I do think a lot of it is going to rely |
13391s | on how quickly Levick decides to go but |
13393s | I'm also on the other side how quickly |
13396s | possessed he can get hold of some |
13397s | potions |
13398s | yeah and some reductions on the potions |
13401s | as well could be handy he's got nothing |
13403s | going on at the moment though |
13406s | um I haven't got the reductions he's |
13407s | just got the bounce sorry my bad |
13410s | concealment though it's going to be nice |
13412s | to just get things going a little bit |
13413s | does have Vancleave for uh maybe even |
13415s | another shroud next turn if he wants it |
13418s | but he has drawn all of the card drawn |
13420s | all the card draw is pretty bad at the |
13424s | start of the game that's more of an |
13425s | emergency reload apart from Edwin which |
13427s | is okay and for me this hand is a dud |
13431s | and he is going to need not just one top |
13433s | deck but two or three to even get into |
13436s | this game right now as Levitt with |
13438s | double handmaiden at the top there ready |
13440s | to ready to go pretty much it will now |
13443s | yeah that's true although I'm never too |
13446s | upset about seeing a lot of card draw |
13448s | with this deck I think that's generally |
13449s | what you want to go for so you can make |
13451s | the pop-up as big as possible looks like |
13453s | possessing is going to be going for the |
13455s | Van Cleave gets rewarded with a prep |
13458s | doesn't have to use it if he doesn't |
13460s | want but again I think uh use it he |
13463s | could just well the problem is if he |
13466s | preps and then you'd assume you're going |
13468s | to play at least something else then |
13471s | that's two cards that you could have |
13473s | played next turn for dracker that you |
13475s | can't play this turn uh sorry that you |
13477s | can't play next turn right so is drawing |
13480s | mystery card and maybe buffing Van Cleef |
13482s | a bit more |
13483s | worth the reduction of draca uh next |
13487s | turn I don't know and this is why the |
13488s | deck's not super straightforward right |
13490s | you have to make these tough calls yeah |
13492s | I guess it's actually four cards as well |
13494s | because your prep then turns into |
13496s | something else and yeah okay |
13499s | they're just happy to have the 4-4 stuck |
13501s | there |
13502s | yeah and I think when you look at the |
13503s | potential of a bone Spike draw prep |
13505s | becomes very very powerful indeed |
13507s | because it then kind of just gains you |
13509s | Mana at that point right |
13516s | that's kind of all there is to say to |
13518s | that part you're right you are indeed a |
13521s | right Raven uh but it has given Levick |
13523s | the the office and the time to just go |
13525s | for this now fill up his hand in so he |
13527s | turned four and the priest already doing |
13530s | pretty good priesty things |
13533s | you'd have a decent idea what's in |
13534s | possess his hand like like it or lump it |
13537s | there's just no concoctions going on in |
13539s | possess his side that limits down which |
13542s | cards he can possibly have in hand and |
13545s | that means that if it can make some good |
13546s | plans for the future yeah I mean he's |
13548s | already taken a look right because he |
13549s | has the two ghosts so he um he already |
13552s | has looked with um uh identity theft yes |
13556s | so like he already just has a good |
13558s | actual knowledge never mind not seeing |
13560s | any potions he uh he knows what a few of |
13563s | the cards are anyway and Lubbock |
13565s | choosing to just go yeah a bit I would |
13567s | say just making a single 1313 and just |
13570s | saying well you know what I don't have |
13571s | Radiance not worth trying to do anything |
13573s | crazy because he can't |
13575s | yeah the only hard part of that was |
13577s | whether to bless or not I think the rest |
13578s | was you know just make a 13 Health |
13580s | minion and then you've got the bless |
13581s | might as well while you can because I |
13584s | think he knows that possessy even if |
13587s | possessing can clear this it's going to |
13589s | severely damage resources right |
13595s | as it is what does possessive even do |
13598s | about this |
13599s | until my three prep Sprints that Sprints |
13601s | make some space spin to right away and |
13604s | just try a new hand because this one |
13606s | isn't doing it I agree |
13613s | I'm shroud |
13616s | double wall master |
13620s | that was the thing I wasn't |
13622s | sure what possess he wanted to get |
13627s | I think he wants to possibly just get |
13629s | these two stenographers in there and |
13632s | just get some damage onto this thing and |
13634s | clear it off the board and then worry |
13635s | about the rest later |
13638s | because it's going to kill him |
13640s | yeah uh yeah I guess I guess I guess |
13642s | there was a chance to actually hit their |
13644s | mailbox dances as well because there was |
13646s | basically what she does |
13650s | I think he possessed something up here |
13657s | it didn't get the bone Spike off |
13661s | wait what |
13663s | is it even roping |
13666s | I think he was yeah |
13670s | he just straight up oh wow okay for a |
13674s | second there but that |
13675s | is huge and you remember not so long ago |
13679s | Lorinda when I said one of these players |
13682s | doesn't really make mistakes and the |
13684s | other one yeah yeah I remember it quite |
13686s | clearly Raven |
13688s | absolute straight up possessive that one |
13691s | [Music] |
13693s | and |
13694s | look |
13695s | at the difference |
13698s | now there's an extra 1712 on the board |
13700s | there's still |
13703s | um |
13704s | nothing to really get done here |
13706s | yep I mean he worked everything is the |
13709s | the absolute most possessive things he |
13711s | worked it out two Mana left with the |
13713s | clear ready to play with two mana and |
13715s | then just doesn't get it in there |
13717s | uh it's heartbreaking for him he's only |
13720s | game one but it's an important game one |
13721s | as I discussed at the start it's a |
13724s | really huge matchup for swinging this |
13725s | match around and the thing is as well we |
13728s | all know possessy is good right we know |
13730s | we can get it done we know he can play |
13732s | well but these just hiccups and mistakes |
13735s | just don't seem to be going away and the |
13738s | fact that you know I can I can call that |
13740s | before the series starts and then in |
13742s | game one there's a just game losing |
13745s | mistake it's disappointing because I |
13747s | think regardless of who we all would you |
13750s | know who we all would like to win Worlds |
13752s | right we all players like oh I really |
13754s | would think this player should win or |
13755s | that player should win possessive |
13757s | winning worlds twice would be incredible |
13759s | it would be such you know a crazy moment |
13761s | but |
13763s | if this is what keeps happening then he |
13765s | shouldn't right because like there were |
13768s | players who were just playing better and |
13770s | way more consistent so it's a tough one |
13772s | possessing made a mistake and he has |
13774s | paid for it by basically handing Levick |
13776s | an easy free game one huge problem there |
13779s | for possessing and it's proof on the |
13781s | other side of that coin of how good he |
13782s | is because he gives everybody a Wonder |
13784s | zero head start at some point in the |
13787s | game and still became the world champion |
13791s | true true I was scared that you're |
13793s | trying to justify or make a huge game |
13795s | losing mistake okay there Lorinda uh it |
13798s | turns out that it shows how well he is |
13800s | when we cast together you become me and |
13802s | I become subtle to make the dynamic work |
13805s | but regardless without half about it for |
13808s | too long we are going to be moving on to |
13810s | game number two of course and we're |
13812s | gonna have a bit of a Switcheroo here |
13813s | Levick gonna be on the Rogue this time |
13815s | although a different build of course |
13817s | with the jackpot Rogue and possessy |
13820s | jumping over to his priest |
13823s | yeah possessing is on the plague people |
13826s | priest as I've been calling it and I'm |
13828s | going to keep calling it no matter how |
13829s | much pressure is put on me to call it |
13831s | sensible things |
13833s | um and that deck has been the revelation |
13837s | of the tournament I would say not so |
13838s | good against the jackpot Rogue as it is |
13840s | against other things because it it kind |
13843s | of relies on the plagues but as to to |
13846s | mess with people well jackpotvo's got |
13848s | infinite things turn one of them into a |
13850s | plague spreader it's just going to get |
13852s | more people and put those down instead |
13854s | and so I think the jackpot vote in a |
13857s | decent spot but |
13859s | the play piece has been the deck of the |
13860s | tournament in terms of expectancy versus |
13863s | what it's achieved I think |
13864s | yeah I think that the deck's done well |
13867s | so far and it will be interesting to see |
13869s | how well it continues to do as we finish |
13870s | out the day but for me as you kind of |
13873s | mentioned the problem with the match up |
13875s | is well Rogue has a load of random stuff |
13878s | anyway is giving them a plague like that |
13882s | big of a deal right because a lot of the |
13884s | time you aren't actually |
13886s | breaking up a combo because a combo |
13889s | doesn't really exist you know what I |
13890s | mean it's like yes you could turn one |
13892s | you know like tests into a plague and |
13894s | it's like okay well that you know that |
13896s | just kind of sucks but outside of that |
13898s | they have so much just I I mean this in |
13900s | like a very neutral way but so much just |
13902s | random garbage in their hands a lot of |
13904s | time anyway it's like well you're not |
13906s | hitting combo pieces right it's |
13908s | definitely not the match-up the priest |
13910s | players are going yes I can't wait to |
13912s | play against jackpot Rogue with this |
13914s | priest deck so we'll be interested to |
13916s | see how it plays out here and just how |
13918s | the deck performs overall because again |
13921s | even though we're talking a lot about |
13923s | the plague spreaders there's plenty of |
13925s | just play the curve out overpower your |
13928s | opponent with just Share value and then |
13930s | worst case if it becomes one of those |
13932s | sort of Meandering style games that |
13934s | these sort of matchups can become well |
13936s | there's the sort of guaranteed win |
13938s | condition right of just finishing the |
13940s | quest |
13941s | yeah absolutely yeah it's not like |
13943s | hitting a Jace is the way I would have |
13945s | put that where we saw yala earlier |
13947s | trying to do all sorts of difficult I |
13951s | don't know 3D puzzles in his head in the |
13953s | space of 75 seconds to not get his spell |
13956s | damage or his Jace hit |
13958s | um and yeah we're gonna see the neutral |
13962s | version of this the arena version of |
13963s | this priest which is just up against |
13964s | another Arena deck |
13967s | let's see stuff versus stuff |
13971s | I'll be very interested actually to see |
13973s | if possessive keeps his plague spreader |
13975s | because again like it |
13977s | it's not |
13979s | game winning but it's also just a four |
13981s | drop to play to do the quest right so |
13984s | and it's fine so yeah he is Gonna Keep |
13986s | It Levick going for the reconnaissance |
13988s | and the private eye earlier today we saw |
13990s | bunny Hopper sort of show the power of |
13992s | an earliest private eye and and start |
13994s | playing on pressure in the Paladin |
13996s | matchup and we'll see if our Levick can |
13998s | have a similar success with this kind of |
14000s | opening I'm sure it's just the way he he |
14003s | looks naturally but I always get the |
14004s | impression especially this year that |
14006s | Levick just feels sorry for his |
14007s | opponents it's like ah you know you |
14010s | you're so bad you had to make that play |
14012s | I'm just going to beat you now I'm sorry |
14014s | it's like you know |
14016s | it looks like this sort of I apologize |
14018s | for beating you but you should be better |
14020s | yeah I think it all encapsulated in one |
14022s | look I think with lavik as well he's |
14024s | definitely not one of the most visually |
14026s | reactive players that we've ever had |
14028s | right yeah he seems to at least again |
14031s | visually keep a lid on things and just |
14033s | be like yeah okay you know we're just |
14034s | playing the game it helps that he wins a |
14036s | lot so he doesn't have to get upset too |
14038s | often |
14039s | um but yeah it just seems to be in |
14040s | control of himself at all times yeah |
14043s | he's a lot more humble than he looks on |
14045s | the screen as well he's always sort of |
14047s | very appreciative to be mentioned or to |
14049s | be put in the conversation with each |
14050s | other's players of his standard |
14052s | um which they are it's not like we're |
14054s | putting him in there to make him sound |
14055s | good he is that good but he's always |
14057s | sort of very appreciative of that fact |
14059s | he's um just the way he he looks when |
14061s | he's playing that makes him look like |
14063s | hey I'm better than you and that's not a |
14064s | bad way to look when you're playing |
14065s | games |
14066s | I love it gonna Shuffle away the |
14068s | restaurant I like this a lot and just |
14070s | saying you don't get to do anything that |
14072s | fancy on curve and also just opening up |
14075s | space creating Tempo objection now |
14077s | locked in for Levick as well with this |
14079s | private eye follow-up things are looking |
14081s | quite good for Levick to get that Tempo |
14083s | opening that you really want with this |
14085s | deck but you have to be able to follow |
14088s | it up with something which is why I |
14090s | think we see this prep reconnaissance |
14092s | first |
14094s | so leather can get an idea okay what can |
14096s | I make what can I pressure with because |
14098s | this looks great but as we've seen in |
14101s | the past if the next two turns are |
14102s | nothing then it's not really going to |
14105s | achieve a big objection coming down |
14107s | there |
14109s | laughs |
14111s | Olympic's face was like okay what a |
14113s | shame your objection |
14117s | oh my goodness Raven |
14121s | yeah possesses like he knows I'm about |
14125s | to get locked out |
14127s | just gonna get objected to all over |
14129s | yeah not quite as good a choice second |
14132s | time round to follow up with here he's |
14134s | gonna go for Paladin with a noble |
14136s | sacrifice he's gonna go for Paladin yeah |
14138s | that's definitely not a good choice ever |
14141s | three entered one remains none will win |
14145s | I think that's how it goes |
14149s | a double cross definitely a good pickup |
14151s | anyway just because he like Levick needs |
14154s | to draw it's the problem with this deck |
14156s | is if you don't get hold of card draw or |
14158s | a lot of the consistent value in hand |
14161s | then you can win if we saw it earlier uh |
14163s | today where it was just the three like |
14165s | most pointless cards in the deck just |
14167s | sat in hand doing nothing every turn |
14170s | yeah this this rubbish on the the screen |
14172s | right now is nine damage represented |
14175s | just a collection of stuff it's just you |
14178s | know those cards you find under the |
14181s | pillows on your sofa or the cushions on |
14183s | your sofa you just move it back looking |
14185s | around tidying up and there's these |
14187s | three minions just there doing nine |
14189s | making you feel uncomfortable what do |
14191s | you think of coin Finley here |
14193s | coin Finley a coin first to check the |
14196s | secret and then finally because if it's |
14200s | not counter spell it is almost certainly |
14202s | objection right it's cool drop the |
14204s | Finley into it and now possess you can |
14206s | decide what he wants to do with the |
14207s | follow-up |
14209s | yep I like it I think it's a good idea |
14211s | Raven and possess he does too there you |
14214s | go |
14218s | what can get frustrating about playing |
14220s | it's this type of Rogue is it feels like |
14222s | no matter what you do the rogue's |
14225s | laughing at you right it's like yep you |
14227s | then have to use the coin to check for |
14228s | counter spell play the Finley then you |
14230s | play a million and because you spent all |
14231s | your money oh your opponent just gets to |
14233s | draw more cards it's like what |
14235s | and right and my opponent's still |
14237s | getting things going well for them |
14239s | whenever I play against jackpot Vogue or |
14241s | Thief Rogue whatever you want to call it |
14242s | I spend the whole game screaming how |
14244s | have they got so many cards I've dealt |
14246s | with all of their cards and they still |
14247s | have more cards where are they coming |
14249s | from why are they still here why have |
14252s | they got five millions and five cards in |
14254s | hand is about to be the case now for |
14255s | possessing what's going on |
14259s | save the resource because light bomb |
14261s | would be kind of bad so yeah might as |
14263s | well keep it back |
14264s | yep I don't think the maze just gonna |
14267s | make a giant difference we are going to |
14269s | see now possessive go for the light |
14272s | shower I believe |
14275s | scary though right because even that's |
14277s | interesting in itself possessively going |
14279s | for the light shower yes he gets to heal |
14281s | of course which is nice but |
14283s | the it's also a minion that Rogue can |
14287s | interact with that doesn't require |
14288s | trades of their own minions right so we |
14291s | can see now bone Spike and then bone |
14293s | Spike off the deer and with Astor law I |
14295s | mean okay nice heal but go away taunt |
14298s | minion pressure again from Levick yeah |
14301s | turn after turn of just relentlessly |
14303s | removing the opponent's Tempo and making |
14305s | his own it's |
14306s | so much it's not over yet but it doesn't |
14310s | look like the damage is going to stop |
14312s | appearing now with the the top level as |
14314s | slow as slow or the flamethrower or |
14316s | whatever it's called |
14320s | possessively just having too much to do |
14322s | each turn gotta make some stuff on the |
14324s | board to actually fight gotta heal a bit |
14326s | gotta stop from dying |
14328s | and all the cards cost like six of four |
14331s | and horrible numbers this day he's only |
14333s | on turn seven |
14334s | okay for now though deserve gifted the |
14336s | narrow to start with can draw a card if |
14339s | it gets hold of zyrella then that's a |
14341s | very very good outcome worst case can |
14343s | still go for light bulb or second light |
14344s | shower |
14348s | starts with the draw like I said zyrella |
14350s | would make a massive impact |
14356s | which means light bomb is the choice |
14360s | here I don't think just do another light |
14364s | shower |
14365s | another light shower feels incredibly |
14367s | terrifying I haven't added it up but |
14369s | there's a lot of damage coming at him |
14370s | next turn |
14374s | I think Lubbock will be fine with this |
14376s | he's almost expecting it right going for |
14377s | the daggering instead of the maestro |
14382s | foreign |
14388s | thinking what's going on here |
14390s | but it's not 10 Mana so it's fine yes I |
14393s | was gonna say it's not doubling so |
14394s | you're okay okay I'm actually I wasn't |
14397s | okay now if it feels awkward to just |
14401s | play scabs versus priest on an empty |
14403s | board but definitely looking at it I |
14406s | guess with this Lubbock just saying okay |
14408s | they struggle to clear again right make |
14411s | another bullet try and clear again right |
14414s | and I kind of like this just basically |
14416s | just slowly trudging towards the astalar |
14419s | on 10 yes which is going to be key here |
14421s | because once more possessi has to do |
14423s | something about that board he has no |
14425s | idea if he's dead or not and he knows in |
14427s | two turns time unless he does something |
14429s | there will be the double asteroid coming |
14431s | down and look how threatening this board |
14433s | is compared to if he had played that |
14435s | monster back on turn five or four |
14437s | whichever turn it was he held it back |
14438s | decided his board was big enough on that |
14440s | turn and just waited I think it's turned |
14442s | five and now instead of just having a |
14444s | three one and a three five which |
14446s | wouldn't be too scary the extra three |
14448s | two in the middle is so much extra |
14450s | damage represented that will actually |
14452s | get through like Expendable damage |
14454s | that he's going to have available to him |
14456s | I feel it's going to be really nice |
14458s | though allows him to put in the not only |
14460s | get the light shower back but get an |
14462s | additional taunt and can play Cathedral |
14464s | as well so gives possessi some kind of |
14467s | big walls to put up |
14469s | yep |
14471s | but now |
14473s | we can talk about scabs yeah get them to |
14477s | play something boom scabs it away and |
14479s | possess it you can see he was just |
14481s | hoping just just no scabs just let my |
14484s | taunts live for a turn |
14486s | foreign |
14489s | to play the Mida in um this turn either |
14492s | gonna have to just |
14498s | 26 hand Point damages he has |
14502s | a lot is that what we're calling them |
14504s | handpoint damages I think that's the |
14505s | right it's what you're calling them I |
14507s | don't know if I'm gonna agree it's |
14509s | correct |
14510s | I'm a trendsetter |
14512s | look at me go |
14513s | all right |
14514s | possess he knows where he's up against |
14516s | mine as the Pyro and that's enough |
14518s | that's a lot of work to get rid of this |
14520s | love |
14523s | hmm |
14528s | all these four attack minions priests |
14530s | really struggle to deal with four attack |
14532s | minions don't they baby we've gone full |
14534s | circle haven't said that for a while I |
14536s | thought I'd just get it in there |
14538s | uh is this lethal not quite |
14542s | soon |
14543s | yes it is isn't uh bump bumpity heal up |
14549s | to |
14550s | 22 take |
14556s | is it dagger that's equipped or did he |
14558s | actually equip the weapon it's dagger |
14559s | right it's just dagger okay it might not |
14561s | be now but there was no bumps required |
14564s | right don't you just play astalar |
14567s | and uh use that to kill off the six six |
14570s | okay push with the dagger I mean I |
14572s | didn't count it to be first we've got to |
14573s | do 27 that way plus six is what 33 and |
14577s | it does 16 20. |
14579s | 24. so like I said it was before the |
14582s | prayer I was I was looking yeah but yeah |
14584s | regardless |
14588s | but to be so careful not to just |
14590s | instinctively ship everything face just |
14593s | in case you've got to work it out |
14594s | because the priest can just come back if |
14596s | you don't kill them I think I still just |
14598s | like things |
14601s | pyro next turn and he yeah and he |
14604s | possessed he doesn't know about the Pyro |
14606s | being an important part of that |
14608s | I love it gonna |
14610s | do this now I'm gonna go oh it's have |
14613s | three potions instead concoctions sorry |
14618s | hey what is a two |
14621s | it kind of makes sense right because |
14625s | it's just lethal it's just no it's not |
14627s | because we had it worked out and then we |
14629s | got it wrong yeah well done the problem |
14631s | is I was just trying to work out |
14633s | the one trade I guess Lubbock's just |
14636s | removing cards off the boards with the |
14638s | other stacked it yeah also the potion is |
14640s | just such good value because he knows |
14641s | it's not lethal so in the world where |
14643s | Pyro's not enough he might need another |
14645s | push so he's balanced |
14647s | having some resources with a scary board |
14650s | with a pyro in hand oh it's gonna end |
14654s | well Pool Plus hero power I think it's |
14657s | an understandable play from possessive |
14659s | but not for the first time we're going |
14661s | to see pyroblast Locker game out here |
14666s | just gonna lock in the Pyro I did not |
14669s | see that coming and the smile in the |
14671s | clap from possessing he knows and now |
14673s | he's gonna be game two going to Levick |
14676s | just and again master class in just |
14679s | applying pressure giving himself options |
14681s | and of course helpful they didn't get |
14684s | one of those hands with this deck where |
14686s | you get stranded just a little bit did |
14688s | get the potions uh ready to go did get |
14690s | these secrets with the early game and |
14692s | then follow up that's the biggest deal I |
14694s | think if you Muller couldn't have the |
14696s | secret package early and you don't hit |
14698s | any follow-up that's when the deck can |
14700s | struggle but that was not the case here |
14702s | for Levick very well played absolutely |
14704s | hitting the jackpot with the Rogue there |
14707s | 2-0 ahead and has the Mage left and the |
14710s | real relevant thing about that is the |
14712s | Mage versus the priest when that match |
14714s | comes up when that matchup comes up is a |
14717s | really good matchup for the Mage uh |
14721s | there's two other games before that most |
14722s | likely as well but Levick now in |
14725s | absolutely on the hill Match Point |
14727s | whatever you want to call it to get to |
14729s | those semi-finals I believe it is going |
14732s | to be the image of course for lavik but |
14734s | going up against the Rogue from |
14736s | possessing and this is a funny one in |
14738s | itself right because this uh from |
14741s | Lubbock I was talking about this earlier |
14743s | with this deck compared to say bunny |
14745s | Hoppers Mage Bunny Hop is running more |
14748s | late game Powerhouse white plays whereas |
14751s | Levick has has pushed everything into |
14753s | the early game we've already seen the |
14755s | power of the one-off shattering blast |
14757s | earlier in the tournament with Levick |
14758s | being a priest with that combo and just |
14761s | the fact that you can just freeze out |
14763s | Rogue so much with this deck that it |
14766s | will be a problem for possessing if Levy |
14769s | can get hold of those you know the likes |
14771s | of solid Alibi maybe the savara that's a |
14774s | you know something we've seen go hand in |
14775s | hand a lot this weekend and then some of |
14777s | the additional phrases as well but |
14779s | either way I am with you lorindra I |
14781s | think even if this matchup which I think |
14783s | is fine for the mage it doesn't go well |
14786s | I think the deck's going to get there |
14789s | over time it would possessively would |
14790s | have to be you know pull something |
14791s | incredible out the bag in this series |
14793s | for me yeah that goes back to the first |
14795s | game of the series where yeah I was |
14798s | talking in terms of this is a big one |
14799s | because it's the it's the sort of 50 50 |
14801s | in the the match-up grid and possessing |
14804s | did make a mistake |
14806s | um yeah no other way around it can't I I |
14810s | like to apologize for playing mistakes |
14811s | and find reasons for them as much as |
14813s | possible that one was straight up just |
14814s | didn't spend two mana on the card in his |
14816s | hand in time |
14819s | see how it goes it looks like a full |
14821s | keep from Levick and I'm kind of with |
14822s | him on that although there's not |
14823s | strictly freeze or anything like that in |
14825s | the opening hand dungeone is kind of |
14828s | maybe sometimes freeze but most |
14830s | importantly it's just good stuff to do |
14832s | early because in the world where your |
14835s | opponent doesn't just uh draca you on |
14837s | three you then if you can just throw |
14839s | stuff out there you're probably gonna |
14840s | end up being a head on board |
14845s | so I love these yeah these mailbox coin |
14849s | hands they look so bad and sometimes |
14851s | nothing happens but usually there's so |
14853s | much cardo in here that it just turns |
14854s | into something good |
14855s | uh |
14859s | yeah it's it is good cardboard it wasn't |
14861s | the card I was thinking of but it's |
14863s | going to be fine |
14868s | rifle through |
14870s | Shadow step plus stuff |
14874s | I've just got stuff that's fine |
14877s | yeah I think lubix probably uh when he |
14880s | saw the prep was a little bit worried |
14881s | with coin yeah but |
14884s | I'm gonna be feeling at least mildly |
14886s | okay that he isn't dead yet and we can |
14889s | see of course there's still going to be |
14890s | a turn or two at minimum before |
14892s | possessive is going to get anything done |
14894s | no draca and no um location either which |
14897s | means just no real pop-off right if |
14900s | possessive goes with the um |
14902s | [Music] |
14904s | losing the name of the card drought |
14910s | not shroud yeah sorry if possessing went |
14912s | for you know like the stenographers and |
14913s | War Masters then who gets right love it |
14915s | because you won't will not care it's |
14917s | only the dragon locations it's the |
14919s | problem |
14921s | it is indeed and |
14923s | this is kind of being forced to play the |
14926s | mailbox without a shadow step which |
14929s | not ideal to face but obviously if you |
14932s | don't get the shadow step which he does |
14933s | found one you end up giving the coins to |
14936s | your opponent which is really irritating |
14938s | it's the problem now the like |
14940s | this is using coins to spend Shadow |
14943s | steps to use coins to spend whatever |
14945s | like |
14946s | with possessive doing this he is digging |
14948s | and digging for |
14950s | he's trying to win it on this board |
14952s | is he just gonna throw everything out |
14954s | yeah he's just gonna try winning on this |
14955s | board and hope he doesn't get Frozen to |
14957s | lose he's just going in |
14959s | flurry flurry shattering plus he decided |
14963s | he hasn't got the time right but he's |
14965s | gonna walk into an absolute catastrophe |
14967s | and he's already used a Sprint and he |
14969s | hasn't done anything good in hand apart |
14971s | from the potion belt which could find |
14972s | Card Draw |
14974s | and this |
14976s | I I actually agree with the decision |
14979s | because his hand was not developing up |
14981s | to turn five he just hadn't got the |
14983s | stuff he doesn't like it he's gonna like |
14985s | it a lot less in a minute Levy doesn't |
14987s | even have to do all those combos right |
14989s | he can now just with Reckless just close |
14992s | off the mailbox he can coin ping with |
14994s | the coin from the mailbox as well if he |
14997s | really wants to kill this stenographer |
14999s | and I think why not clear that yeah he's |
15002s | just possessed he's basically gone all |
15003s | in without any payoff |
15005s | and now levix probably like right I get |
15008s | to put my feet up for the rest of this |
15009s | game needs to draw from potions he needs |
15013s | the yellow potion that's not yellow that |
15014s | one's yellow absolutely needs the card |
15016s | draw |
15018s | and I think there's any chance because |
15020s | Essie just needs Van Cleef as well |
15023s | yeah or the second Sprint but yes Van |
15025s | Cleef might be the only way |
15027s | it might not be enough it's too slow |
15029s | maybe yeah put Levick honestly I can't |
15032s | even imagine what he's feeling right now |
15034s | 2-0 and this game is going about as well |
15037s | as you could imagine it's got a foot |
15040s | like pretty wide board now got options |
15042s | for freeze with the two one ones on |
15043s | there got plenty of damage pushing out |
15045s | still got emergency buttons in the form |
15048s | of flurry and shattering blast now |
15050s | possessing has hold of the location and |
15052s | the Van Cleef but is it going to be |
15054s | enough uh almost certainly no is my |
15057s | answer yeah he can make an infinite |
15059s | infinite ghoul but it's never going to |
15060s | attack so it doesn't matter he's going |
15062s | to make an infinite infinite goal this |
15064s | ghoul is going to be one big ghoul |
15067s | you're not you're lying isn't it a ghost |
15069s | uh it's a ghoul now okay the same way |
15073s | that there's a chef in the Druid Deck |
15075s | okay okay whatever I call it is what it |
15078s | is |
15081s | one little Ray of Hope here because yeah |
15084s | as in well out it's got less chance of |
15087s | being frozen out right the weapon has |
15089s | less chance of being frozen out than |
15091s | minions do it does we can't get to bear |
15095s | this can he no he can't |
15101s | oh yeah so you can |
15104s | if he gets there in time that rope's |
15106s | burning again oh surely surely it's just |
15109s | prep Bones by draculate and then yeah it |
15111s | is it is you're right |
15112s | and he wants to trade into the one one |
15114s | right |
15116s | I think he got the attacking okay okay |
15118s | whatever as long as that one one dies |
15120s | and he gets to attack with draca boxes |
15122s | have been ticked |
15124s | okay fine possessive good job nice work |
15127s | yeah picking up the Dracula somewhere in |
15128s | the middle of that lot when it looked |
15129s | like the um the ghost was the only way |
15132s | to make anything happen |
15135s | wow |
15137s | now for Levick there is sanctum there's |
15139s | Amplified snow flurry there is solid |
15141s | Alibi so what I'm trying to say here is |
15144s | there is time but he has been put on a |
15146s | bit of a clock now because of that draca |
15148s | yep |
15150s | uh it will be a bit of an open goal |
15152s | though uh possessed he does have |
15154s | basically nothing left it is all in on |
15156s | this tracker but yes |
15158s | okay so 11's just gonna go face with the |
15160s | skeleton right yeah he needs every he |
15163s | said he's on a clock that's what he said |
15164s | that he's he agrees with you he's gonna |
15166s | get every point of ping he can get in |
15167s | and hope to hang in there yeah I guess |
15170s | there's no use for the coin yet so why |
15173s | get it right I guess was what I was |
15175s | looking at |
15175s | hard we Sprint to effectively draw the |
15178s | whole deck here for pizzazzi yeah |
15181s | don't play that by mistake that would be |
15183s | a bad time to make that one |
15188s | the problem now is though is Essie uh he |
15192s | forgot to attack really has the web |
15196s | no he was frozen |
15198s | okay that's fine then don't give me a |
15200s | heart attack yeah he was frozen by the |
15203s | Amplified right yeah yeah yeah the |
15205s | problem is possessive doesn't have that |
15207s | many cards to like pop off with the |
15209s | graveyards right so it's just the |
15212s | graveyards now if this weapon gets |
15214s | stalled enough or if Levitt can gain |
15216s | some health or whatever then it's like |
15218s | the graveyards need to be able to just |
15219s | do something it's just over in two turns |
15223s | as long as he gets The Alibi plate here |
15224s | right yeah yeah it's just that that's |
15226s | what I mean like possessing can't build |
15228s | a big enough board and defend right he |
15230s | just doesn't he doesn't have any odds |
15232s | left |
15236s | I just played the Shroud because why not |
15238s | it does nothing except both this |
15240s | sinstone but there's what six damage |
15242s | showing |
15244s | um yeah a ping for three three yeah yeah |
15248s | and uh there's no way to do this and |
15250s | that is not only going to be game but |
15252s | that is going to be serious and |
15254s | possessing previous World Champ is not |
15256s | going to be able to do it again and |
15258s | Levick takes the win 3-0 and honestly |
15263s | the either side of this board for all |
15266s | these games could not have looked more |
15267s | different Levick looked cool calm |
15270s | collected and like I said it pays off |
15273s | because just solid Play No missing |
15276s | around no mistakes and that's the 3-0 |
15279s | into the top four huge congratulations |
15280s | there for Levick yeah I'm an absolute |
15283s | cliche machine today but to be the best |
15285s | you've got to beat the best and he did |
15287s | beat the person who registered as the |
15289s | best in 2021 and he is on his way to a |
15292s | semi-final because of it |
15294s | um obviously it's a Shameless he |
15295s | possession those mistakes but this is |
15297s | what has defined him in both directions |
15298s | super play Super strategy and occasional |
15301s | moments like that and yes he was frozen |
15303s | just to be clear that last game is |
15305s | definitely one where I'd love to you |
15307s | know be able to rewind the clock and |
15309s | just be like okay what if possessy |
15311s | waited one more turn because then things |
15314s | could get interesting right because then |
15316s | maybe he gets out of a location maybe he |
15318s | gets hold of the dragger so can pop off |
15320s | as wide as he did and play the drakka |
15323s | and I know I'm not saying he's that was |
15325s | strictly right or wrong it's just an |
15327s | interesting uh point to talk about but |
15329s | there you go Lorinda that is going to be |
15330s | the top four one of these four players |
15332s | is going to be our world champion by the |
15335s | end of the day and only a few more |
15338s | matches left yep the China vs Europe |
15341s | story Europe 3-1 ahead at the moment |
15346s | but it's not over yet and I'm just |
15349s | thinking about that Levitt game again |
15350s | that last game he was just counting all |
15352s | the way there's a couple of turns where |
15354s | oh he's done two damage to the face okay |
15357s | then I guess he needs the damage exactly |
15359s | from that last turn with you know 13 |
15362s | coming in at him next turn and two two |
15364s | ghosts coming in next turn and also as |
15367s | well let's look at the top four why |
15368s | there's so many different uh arcs that |
15371s | we could play out here to get to this |
15372s | final but what an incredible final it |
15374s | would be if it was dead draw versus |
15376s | bunny right two Team Liquid players have |
15379s | been playing in a you know over in like |
15381s | the the Chinese Team league of course as |
15383s | well and like what a finals that could |
15385s | be and then on the other hand we have |
15387s | these Soul remaining Chinese player We |
15389s | have levik basically compared to these |
15391s | that the new kid on the Block there's a |
15393s | lot to look at and a lot to look forward |
15394s | to but for now we are going to go to a |
15396s | break where we set up the next match |
15397s | don't go anywhere we'll be right back |
15402s | [Music] |
15407s | thank you |
15419s | [Music] |
15431s | foreign |
15436s | [Music] |
15466s | [Music] |
15474s | you will see |
15477s | [Music] |
15483s | Christ and serve your pain |
15493s | my |
15495s | foreign |
15501s | foreign |
15504s | [Music] |
15531s | foreign |
15537s | [Music] |
15563s | foreign |
15565s | [Music] |
15602s | hello everybody Welcome Back To The |
15604s | harson World Championship my name is TJ |
15606s | and I'm joined by the one |
15609s | the only diamonds Auto Welch how you |
15611s | doing subtle |
15612s | I am doing fantastic it's the world |
15616s | championship of hearthstone TJ how could |
15619s | we not be doing fantastic in such an |
15621s | illustrious occasion and I feel like |
15623s | we've had a little bit of everything |
15624s | today we've had you know strong decks |
15627s | blowing people out we've had people just |
15629s | not drawing anything that they needed |
15631s | from their decks at all we've had |
15633s | players winning because they outplayed |
15634s | their opponents and we've had players |
15636s | losing because they threw uh |
15639s | catastrophically so you know a little |
15641s | bit of everything as the mixed bag that |
15642s | you need from a Hearthstone tournament |
15645s | and right now we're getting all of it |
15647s | oh yeah oh we're getting a mixed bag all |
15651s | right a mixed bag of nonsense |
15655s | what I'd love to see in the Hearthstone |
15657s | World Championship E versus bunny Hopper |
15660s | mirrored classes |
15663s | for the first time in |
15668s | can you remember another series that had |
15669s | mirror classes it's a good question yeah |
15672s | the the lineups in general are quite |
15676s | homogenized but there are just enough |
15678s | differences that it's uh you know it's |
15680s | been a mage here instead of a paladin |
15682s | there and so on |
15683s | um there isn't it's it's been |
15685s | these three and Druids largely |
15689s | um with some variety of priests that I |
15691s | think is the most common but a lot of |
15692s | The Druids have now been weeded out and |
15694s | I don't think too many of them played |
15695s | against each other so not entirely sure |
15697s | but yeah very similar uh lineups across |
15700s | the board not only is it a class mirror |
15702s | but largely an archetype mirror as well |
15705s | apart from yui's Little Twist of the |
15708s | mine Rogue coming into this one and this |
15711s | is kind of the thing with the the kcg |
15713s | players in this tournament right is they |
15715s | all have one kind of weird deck that no |
15718s | other player in the tournament is |
15720s | playing like yui has the mine Rogue xmg |
15722s | has the aggro Druid uh gelby has |
15725s | Celestial Druid like they've each |
15727s | individually taken risks with their |
15729s | lineup but obviously different risks and |
15732s | I talked |
15733s | um to some of the kzg players in the |
15735s | interviews beforehand and said you know |
15737s | clearly your group and your team has |
15739s | done fantastically collectively to get |
15742s | you all to this point do you now have to |
15744s | separate and do your own thing and who |
15746s | do you practice with now and does that |
15748s | like does that break up some of your |
15750s | power and the people that I spoke to are |
15751s | generally saying yes this is going to be |
15753s | weird that we're now having to prep to |
15756s | beat each other specifically as opposed |
15758s | to working together so closely as we |
15759s | have |
15762s | I mean they should |
15764s | you can when you go to the world |
15766s | championship you can always practice |
15767s | together right |
15770s | um we've had it in the past uh what's |
15772s | the big one uh Viper and Bunny Hopper |
15774s | 2019 World Championship |
15777s | um where they uh practiced and and |
15780s | placed it together for the world |
15781s | championship the one the hunter race won |
15782s | and then they then they met in the same |
15785s | made each other right yeah in the |
15786s | semi-finals or quarters yeah yeah semis |
15788s | are quarters yeah uh pretty late on in |
15790s | the tournament and Viper ended up |
15791s | winning obviously because he he was the |
15792s | one who made it to the finals to play |
15793s | against Hunter race |
15795s | um but like that sort of mutually |
15798s | assured success |
15800s | one of you has got to win at the end of |
15803s | the day regardless |
15805s | um whether you practice together or you |
15807s | didn't and having an opportunity for |
15809s | both of you to get further in the |
15811s | tournament because you know you're |
15812s | practicing against uh our privacy with |
15815s | players that are very good and they've |
15817s | had success within the past I think is |
15819s | uh |
15820s | uh a good thing it's like the opposite |
15822s | of mutually assured destruction you know |
15826s | I think at least now UE will be the one |
15829s | holding his head high he's the The Last |
15831s | Man Standing when it comes to the the |
15832s | kzg players in fact the last man |
15835s | standing from anywhere else other than |
15836s | Europe TJ if I've been following the |
15839s | results of these quarterfinals correctly |
15842s | um so he has a a large amount of hopes |
15846s | weighing heavy on his shoulders I think |
15848s | not only that of the China region but I |
15850s | would imagine that of many players |
15853s | around the world who do not want to see |
15855s | more European smugness going through to |
15857s | the world championship finals |
15859s | well it has been quite some time since |
15862s | we've had a European world champion |
15864s | not quite as long as it's been since |
15867s | we've had a champion from the Americas |
15869s | region but 2019 Hunter race was the last |
15872s | uh world champion from Europe |
15875s | um it's been downhill from there to be |
15876s | quite honest with you |
15878s | uh just real downhill from there |
15880s | um not quite as uh as steep of a slope |
15883s | as it was from firebat in 2015. you know |
15887s | that was just like |
15889s | that was a cliff this one's like a |
15891s | gradual decline and now they're slowly |
15895s | moving back up the hill |
15897s | but Yugi has a Lamborghini and he's |
15901s | zooming |
15903s | [Music] |
15906s | why so hang on in this metaphor are you |
15909s | we're driving Lamborghinis off cliffs |
15911s | I've very I got lost in the middle of |
15913s | what scene you were setting during all |
15915s | no no the Americas region was fire bat |
15920s | um like driving a minivan with all his |
15921s | buddies in the back right just like |
15923s | dolls buddies jamming spreadsheets okay |
15926s | they're cruising along respectable Pace |
15929s | okay |
15930s | and then if this is your pitch for a |
15933s | teen comedy Road Trip movie I'm not |
15935s | buying it okay you are not getting any |
15937s | sort of budget to make this and they |
15939s | they're driving along and then you know |
15941s | fireback winter World Championship they |
15943s | celebrate you know they press the button |
15944s | on the side the doors open automatically |
15946s | they all get out and cheer they get back |
15948s | in and they're like now it's your turn |
15950s | so all the rest of them take turns |
15952s | driving but then boom off a cliff |
15954s | um now uh APAC Europe and China |
15959s | um they were all sensible you know they |
15961s | had GPS they knew the clip was coming |
15963s | you know they didn't get ahead of |
15964s | themselves so they went around they |
15966s | found a they found uh other roads to go |
15970s | right |
15971s | um Europe was like all right we need |
15973s | immediate speed okay so they hit the NOS |
15977s | boom |
15978s | went straight up the hill okay just you |
15981s | know like a an Audi or something I don't |
15983s | know straight up the hill and then boom |
15986s | real steep slope after that and there |
15988s | and they they didn't total the car but |
15991s | they crashed enough to where it was |
15992s | going to delay them |
15994s | um China was just going straight the |
15995s | whole time no Hills |
15998s | just you know one flat height no no it's |
16002s | 45 I finally caught up with the metaphor |
16004s | now what China was doing is that they |
16006s | spent the first three or four years |
16008s | saving up so they could buy a |
16010s | Lamborghini so they did nothing for |
16012s | three or four years because they were |
16014s | just saving every penny |
16016s | that's true yeah no and then with lion |
16018s | lion was the first person to get usage |
16020s | of the Lamborghini and then since then |
16022s | China's just been on top right like |
16024s | China's been absolutely stomping in |
16026s | Masters tours ever since line was the |
16027s | world champion this all sorry to you I'm |
16029s | sorry I doubted you this all this all |
16031s | made perfect sense all along yeah well |
16034s | it was it was lion was in the original |
16036s | car the rest of them were like I don't |
16038s | like this plan if we keep doing this |
16040s | we're going to be the same as Europe |
16041s | forever |
16043s | um lions like no I think this is going |
16045s | to be good so she kept going and she |
16048s | finished first in 2020. then the rest of |
16051s | them got out went back home saved up for |
16053s | the Lamborghini |
16055s | real quick real quick because line has |
16057s | already shown them how to get a |
16059s | Lamborghini quickly at that point so |
16061s | they can do it much faster right the |
16063s | road map's already set out for them they |
16064s | can get in there exactly a little |
16066s | quicker than mine did yeah so they got |
16068s | it and now |
16070s | um |
16071s | he's the one that's in it right now and |
16074s | then what region am I missing oh APAC |
16076s | um |
16078s | eight pack |
16081s | got a spaceship okay we got a rocket |
16086s | okay they they didn't even know the race |
16088s | was happening for for the first four |
16091s | years and then they realized in 2019 |
16094s | wait a second |
16096s | there's a race going on we gotta get in |
16098s | this all their life savings they all |
16101s | threw it together they bought a rocket |
16103s | ship they went to the moon okay |
16107s | um and then |
16108s | they got two world champions in a row |
16110s | Boom at the Moon two world champions in |
16112s | a row and then they realized that |
16114s | possessi had made all these promises |
16117s | like all right after we get to the moon |
16118s | we're gonna |
16119s | turns out that what possessity didn't |
16121s | tell them is they were broke they didn't |
16123s | have any money so now they're stuck on |
16126s | the moon |
16129s | so this this world championship is being |
16131s | played on Mars |
16134s | two things real quick |
16136s | I first off just to stop anyone being |
16139s | mad at TJ Sanders we have not delayed |
16141s | the start of the HearthStone for 10 |
16143s | minutes while TJ went off on this |
16145s | extended metaphor we were told that we |
16148s | did not have the players and might have |
16150s | to fill for time and so TJ decided to do |
16152s | a 10 minute metaphor about various |
16153s | Vehicles okay just want to make that |
16155s | very clear before an angry mob murders |
16158s | TJ so secondly so where we are now |
16162s | where we are now is |
16165s | the world championship trophy is on Mars |
16167s | okay possessy still stuck on the moon |
16170s | ran out of money okay |
16173s | the America's region they're still on |
16176s | Earth they had a minivan they ran it off |
16178s | a cliff the dunzo |
16180s | China is in a Lamborghini just racing to |
16184s | the to Mars okay in Europe |
16188s | you know still where were they oh |
16191s | they're in a another respectable fast |
16195s | vehicle hitting the NOS |
16197s | getting to Mars |
16199s | so sorry the the plan there's three of |
16202s | them in the same vehicle so |
16204s | you know inertia uh |
16208s | laws of physics and motion |
16210s | what what goes up must come down they're |
16213s | going faster because there's more of |
16214s | them in there |
16216s | it's a Lamborghini it's probably going |
16218s | to get to Mars first |
16221s | fairly short neither of those |
16223s | terrestrial vehicles are going to make |
16224s | it to Mars I'm also very uncomfortable |
16227s | with the idea that we started talking |
16228s | about like how to buy Lamborghinis and |
16230s | things going to the moon like we'd sound |
16232s | like awful Tick-Tock influences at this |
16234s | point so I think we should move on very |
16236s | rapidly that's my calling foreign |
16241s | I mean considering how long it took you |
16244s | to make that entire metaphor I'm not |
16246s | sure that short forms is really your |
16249s | wheelhouse no it's not no I don't even |
16253s | think a platform exists to where I could |
16255s | oh this one this is my calling |
16260s | a world championship where the only |
16262s | delays of the day have been right now |
16264s | where I start casting with saddle |
16266s | my favorite person to make crazy |
16268s | metaphors with who won't reciprocate |
16270s | them correct Orinda is my favorite |
16272s | person to make metaphors with if I want |
16274s | the metaphor to never end |
16277s | well TJ it's been fun but can I interest |
16280s | you in talking about Hearthstone at all |
16282s | well we continue to wait for some |
16283s | Hearthstone to break out yeah we did to |
16285s | be fair we did talk about HearthStone |
16286s | for quite some time before we got to |
16288s | that point |
16289s | um |
16290s | but now yes we can |
16292s | so that was tangentially Hearthstone |
16295s | related as well yeah it was a weird |
16298s | potted metaphorical history of the |
16300s | Hearthstone world championship and its |
16302s | winners through the lens of TJ Saunders |
16304s | warped child brain |
16306s | um but mine Rogue is specifically what I |
16308s | would like to talk about because you |
16310s | cast uh mine Rogue a little bit early on |
16312s | right and I could almost hear the wheels |
16314s | turning as you suddenly remembered how |
16317s | much damage mine Rogue did and how |
16319s | quickly it happened |
16321s | um do you think it's like actually well |
16323s | positioned in this tournament because uh |
16325s | it's certainly the only one that we're |
16326s | seeing Reach This stage so uh not in |
16330s | this current metagame but over the past |
16332s | year right since the beginning of the |
16334s | year I |
16336s | I |
16337s | can't |
16338s | um I think that mine Rogue is the deck |
16340s | that I played the most games on in as in |
16342s | a specific archetype okay |
16345s | um |
16346s | I'm out of practice a little bit but uh |
16350s | I think that that deck has |
16352s | almost always been underrated in terms |
16355s | of how powerful it is specifically when |
16357s | you're looking at other combo decks |
16361s | that have 30 Health right which Demon |
16364s | Hunter you know floats right in that |
16366s | that margin because yeah if you're faced |
16369s | with no pressure |
16370s | you can just make your hand |
16372s | whatever you want and just hold on to |
16375s | resources however long you want and you |
16377s | can kill |
16378s | very quickly |
16380s | um and when you have that time and when |
16383s | you're facing off against another deck |
16384s | who's not doing anything mine Rogue will |
16386s | often come out on top the only issue |
16388s | though is that |
16390s | your bad draws are very bad |
16393s | [Music] |
16395s | um so like your ceiling is much higher |
16396s | but your floor is |
16398s | much lower |
16400s | that makes sense yeah no I think that's |
16402s | entirely fair I would largely agree and |
16404s | just looking at the remainder of the |
16406s | field |
16408s | uh dead draw has a very heavy |
16410s | renithal-based lineup he has the XL Mage |
16413s | he also has control priest and a 40 card |
16416s | jackpot Rogue and but on the other side |
16418s | of that Levick has a very slimmed down |
16422s | lineup again how's that Quest Demon |
16423s | Hunter that we're talking about major |
16425s | the 30 card version so a very uh lighter |
16428s | Target for the mine Rogue to get at and |
16430s | then has that Boone priest as well which |
16432s | you know that that is a contentious |
16434s | matchup for sure but certainly in some |
16436s | of the matchups that we have been seeing |
16437s | and I think particularly that Quest |
16439s | Demon Hunter that you were talking about |
16442s | um I have played a ton of question |
16443s | Hunter and have played against a ton of |
16445s | death rattle Rogue obviously because |
16447s | that's a large chunk of what ladder is |
16449s | and there's been so many occasions where |
16453s | they're doing burning blade acolyte |
16454s | stuff or ghoul stuff or whatever and I'm |
16457s | just sat there thinking if they've put |
16459s | one mine in their deck I'm dead like |
16463s | just outright dead and there is nothing |
16465s | I can do about it so I do think it was a |
16468s | very Heads Up Call from UE and honestly |
16470s | I think this is a a genuine contributing |
16473s | factor to the reason why yui is here and |
16475s | the other Chinese players aren't |
16478s | and I feel like the mine Rogue version |
16479s | on ladder is not as popular so it's not |
16482s | when you're playing on ladder you you |
16484s | completely disrespect the damage so I |
16487s | agree I'm like all right they got you |
16489s | know four the burning blade acolyte |
16492s | tokens on board I'm at 26. I'm good like |
16496s | I can wait a turn just really good |
16497s | dimensions with mine Rogue no you gotta |
16500s | always be worried about your life total |
16501s | to an extent you also sometimes just |
16503s | have to ignore that and say I'm gonna go |
16505s | with my own game plan and hope they |
16506s | don't have it but as we saw earlier |
16509s | um in the yarla versus you you match up |
16512s | they're gonna kill you even without |
16514s | training centered yeah I could do this |
16517s | so yeah I'm looking forward to it |
16520s | um it looks like players have been found |
16523s | so I believe that means we should be |
16528s | we did a bad minimum for the resumption |
16531s | of the Hearthstone tournament has been |
16533s | achieved achieved I believe that means |
16536s | that we should be going into game |
16537s | relatively shortly |
16539s | [Music] |
16547s | what's happening now you can't just |
16548s | disappear off camera left what are you |
16551s | doing oh hey buddy yes you can hey he's |
16554s | biting my lights oh okay dashie's not in |
16557s | here so we can't have we can't have cat |
16559s | Wars again unfortunately I literally |
16561s | have to go walk around the entire house |
16562s | and find them I specifically let him out |
16565s | and he came back |
16570s | the Bengals is that what they are |
16573s | I don't know okay |
16576s | they're they're rescues we got them when |
16578s | they were |
16580s | three weeks old I think |
16582s | it just stopped uh nursing um and their |
16585s | their mom just dipped |
16589s | buns |
16590s | bands have a tears yeah and there we go |
16593s | like through all the nonsense I did at |
16596s | least make some effort to set up |
16598s | something thematic because I had a |
16600s | feeling breaking down this uh this match |
16602s | up in the break as we were watching the |
16604s | previous one complete that uh OG might |
16607s | just be the deck to receive the ban in |
16609s | this one and that is a lot of respect uh |
16612s | being given to that mine Rogue which is |
16613s | why I wanted to bring it up and talk |
16614s | about it because it just does go to show |
16616s | siphoning that ban away means that you |
16618s | know Demon Hunter gets to stay up |
16620s | there's none of that concern uh bunny |
16622s | trusting in the control priest I I would |
16625s | imagine to some degree to go up against |
16627s | the Demon Hunter which is not something |
16629s | I was expecting to say coming into this |
16631s | I was talking about this with Raven feel |
16634s | like a at a ladder standard even a |
16636s | relatively High ladder standards that's |
16639s | still a good matchup for the Demon |
16641s | Hunter |
16642s | um but the the South Harbor that we've |
16644s | seen the the control priests have just |
16646s | had the edge in not only managing |
16649s | disruption but also getting ready good |
16651s | pressure going at the same time which is |
16653s | a balance that my ladder opponents don't |
16655s | really seem to get right in the matchup |
16657s | so interesting in the in the few matches |
16659s | that we have left the two semis in the |
16661s | final whether that Trend continues |
16663s | yeah it feels like we've been getting |
16665s | like the plague spreader end of the deal |
16667s | but it's a it's a big deck |
16671s | 40 cards |
16672s | though |
16674s | and it's not quite so you can't like |
16676s | fetch a specific thing |
16677s | you're limited on draw so |
16680s | you got to make do with what you got and |
16683s | you really only have like seven eight |
16685s | turns in order to find something for |
16688s | that disruption or for that pressure uh |
16690s | before the demon Hunter's Gonna Get You |
16693s | [Music] |
16694s | pop out of the bushes |
16698s | with a surprised 80-something damage as |
16701s | most things in bushes tend to have |
16703s | hidden up their sleeve yeah imagine |
16705s | you're walking down the street and a |
16708s | Demon Hunter |
16709s | pops out of a bush |
16711s | and starts unleashing fell |
16715s | but then it's fine because you've |
16717s | already preemptively given it the plague |
16719s | which is actually as we know the only |
16721s | one true counter to demon Hunters yeah |
16724s | little did they know yes to be fair to |
16727s | be fair leg spreader in that bush well |
16729s | yes if the Demon Hunter is in a bush |
16731s | that kind of suggests that it's outside |
16733s | in which case yeah it has the plague |
16735s | that's just kind of how the world works |
16737s | now isn't it these days yeah yeah it is |
16741s | um so it turns out finding the players |
16744s | was only step one |
16746s | haha |
16749s | now the players have to find it within |
16751s | themselves |
16754s | to pick which deck they're going to play |
16755s | first |
16756s | yeah well we got through bands which is |
16758s | why I was very excited to see our lower |
16761s | third matchup chart thing uh appear or |
16763s | lineup chart up here because that means |
16764s | the band's got in which is an excellent |
16767s | First Step at the very least |
16769s | um remainder of these matchups talk |
16771s | about uh pigmage on UE side 40 card |
16775s | version for UE as well it's a very |
16778s | interesting lineup whenever I see a |
16780s | lineup like this my brain just goes to |
16781s | Pavel for some reason I don't know why |
16784s | um you remember for like 18 straight |
16786s | months Pavel just brought like a two and |
16788s | two lineup it was like two slow decks |
16790s | two fast decks every single tournament |
16792s | back to back to back including when he |
16794s | went undefeated for like an enormous |
16796s | amount of time |
16798s | um it's just that's that's always what I |
16800s | think of when I see this kind of lineup |
16801s | with like two slow grindy XL decks with |
16804s | the Ping Mage and the priest and then |
16805s | two very very fast combo decks with the |
16808s | Demon Hunter and the mime Rogan hey it |
16810s | worked pretty darn well for Pavel for a |
16812s | very long time |
16814s | yeah that was back when you know we were |
16818s | young and naive and we were trying to |
16820s | coin all these terms |
16822s | you know like that's a pobble lineup you |
16826s | know like uh or who was it oh uh Samuel |
16829s | Sal's play style |
16832s | to you no one else tried to coin that |
16837s | uh Samuel style for those who don't know |
16840s | a player that had a lot of success in |
16842s | Hearthstone over over a couple years who |
16845s | oftentimes made |
16846s | baffling plays and stumbled into |
16849s | victories |
16850s | and it was because he played this is my |
16853s | theory okay uh he played as if |
16857s | the next card in his deck his next draw |
16860s | was the best draw |
16862s | this deck |
16864s | what he did the beginning of the turn he |
16866s | identified what's my best top deck |
16867s | that's what I'm gonna draw next turn |
16869s | this is my Play |
16871s | and uh had an alarming amount of success |
16874s | with that play style |
16876s | to quote an admirableism he doesn't just |
16878s | play with the cards in his hand he plays |
16880s | with the cards in his deck |
16883s | Amen brother that's what I would always |
16886s | say when he said that |
16888s | and then probably follow up with there |
16890s | being multiple roads to Del Dorado or |
16893s | something |
16896s | what was it |
16897s | oh there's just two two that's exactly |
16901s | two |
16903s | no more no less oh two years two roads |
16905s | El Paso yeah two right |
16913s | and they're boring boring roads |
16917s | to reward you for that incredibly long |
16920s | amount of time that you had to wait so |
16922s | to get into this series it looks like we |
16925s | are going to kick things off with at |
16927s | least an incredibly long game of Hearth |
16929s | tanks this is going to be control |
16929s | priests going up against the slow Mage |
16932s | on the other side for UE so this one |
16934s | could be a absolute grind and we could |
16937s | be seeing the plague people come back |
16939s | into play as well they can actually have |
16940s | a really really big impact on this game |
16942s | there's a cup a couple of very crucial |
16944s | minions in this deck yeah you bet your |
16948s | butt if you see a high dust cost it's |
16951s | going to be a long game you see 22 000 |
16953s | dust oh boy that's a 20 minute at least |
16958s | game so |
16961s | so funny how that works aggregate games |
16964s | very fast very low dust cost |
16967s | Pig Mage very high test costs very long |
16969s | games |
16970s | get what you pay for |
16973s | yep going all the way back to the |
16975s | original wallet Warrior way back in the |
16977s | day when however many legendaries are in |
16979s | that egg I feel like that never broke |
16981s | the 20 000 Mark I think I guess now |
16983s | we're dealing with 40 card deck so it's |
16985s | kind of cheating you'd have to do like |
16986s | average cost per card for it to be a |
16989s | fair comparison right |
16994s | it was |
16996s | they're in a test game right now so |
16998s | we'll be jumping in momentarily but I |
16999s | have one more I don't know it was a |
17001s | personal anecdote I remember back when |
17003s | we were making these initial Graphics |
17006s | um because we've had the same like deck |
17008s | Graphics since after Specialists right |
17010s | so what was that 2020 was that 2020 2019 |
17014s | something like that 19 yeah not sure it |
17017s | was it was in 2019. |
17019s | we kind of had like two World |
17021s | Championships almost in 2019 |
17023s | Because the actual World Championship |
17025s | the Honda race one was in 2019 and then |
17027s | lion also won in 2019. |
17030s | um just at the end of the year |
17033s | um so what was I gonna say oh and they I |
17037s | worked at blizzard time they asked me |
17038s | for feedback on the graphic and I was |
17039s | like does cost interesting |
17042s | I was like I don't think that fits like |
17043s | well what else would you put there |
17045s | I was like good point |
17047s | ship it |
17048s | [Laughter] |
17051s | so that's how that went yeah good I mean |
17056s | I feel like we're getting fascinating |
17057s | insight into the inner machinations so |
17060s | for us don't need Sports |
17062s | oh have you got a better idea now all |
17065s | right ship it |
17071s | it's honestly been like my life |
17074s | my brain says what are you gonna say TJ |
17076s | and I'm like I want to say this it's |
17078s | like you got a better idea |
17082s | all right ship it okay all the brain |
17085s | brain one has pitched this do you have a |
17089s | better idea nah sorry bud you're all on |
17091s | your own it's left side right side right |
17093s | that's how that works all right I guess |
17095s | 10 minute uh extended vehicle metaphor |
17098s | is |
17101s | I was like what was that 30 minutes I |
17105s | don't know oh geez I want to go home and |
17108s | I'm already here |
17112s | next I was like I'm going home it just |
17114s | gets up from his chair goes to the bed |
17115s | that's like six feet away |
17118s | I hate traveling to work we did it we |
17122s | did it |
17126s | all right Dawn grasp opening hands big |
17130s | big deal |
17134s | Bonnie's hand leaves a lot to be desired |
17137s | does |
17142s | like like 32 out of the 40 cards in his |
17145s | deck though I could see the same thing |
17146s | so |
17149s | um |
17159s | trying to look for some craziness in the |
17162s | deckless |
17164s | things that could uh really make things |
17167s | awkward |
17169s | feels like the uh |
17172s | sisters fall now probably has to be |
17174s | number one yep priority for for bunny |
17177s | Hopper just to get that value |
17179s | the Daw as well |
17183s | and the plague spreader just to get the |
17185s | additional value ultimately like you |
17187s | know super late game strategy for bunny |
17189s | Hopper is to |
17191s | Citrus falling uh you know collect some |
17193s | ambulance start trading them flood the |
17195s | pool with uh |
17197s | spiders and plague spreaders |
17202s | yeah I think keep bringing them back the |
17205s | big question though is whether you get |
17206s | enough time to do that when your |
17209s | opponent plays Dawn grasp on curve right |
17211s | because we when you draw Dawn grasp you |
17216s | are very clearly established that you're |
17218s | now playing aggro in this matchup right |
17219s | there's no real other way around it |
17221s | you're not going to outvalue the priest |
17223s | particularly this build of priest with |
17225s | that asterisk infinite value from the |
17228s | spawner and then you know as many medals |
17230s | as you can get as well on top of that |
17232s | you're never going to be able to keep up |
17233s | on that however massive amounts of |
17236s | damage per turn that's a real big deal |
17238s | of course this is the uh 40 card version |
17240s | as well so you are |
17243s | um looking at bran being in there with |
17245s | the Reckless apprentice and so on and so |
17246s | forth but then we get into the dynamic |
17248s | of how many of those minions you |
17250s | actually get to play in their original |
17251s | form as minions and how many of them die |
17254s | of the plague |
17258s | yep well said |
17260s | I mean thematically that's what's |
17262s | happening right I think yep well I mean |
17266s | you yes plague spreader is an undead so |
17270s | yeah |
17271s | in Canon they have died |
17274s | yeah and it's one of the only ways for a |
17278s | minion to skip the Hearthstone process |
17281s | of death which is Living Dead undead |
17286s | prison Court |
17289s | ah yes the cycle spreader gets to |
17293s | give the whole dead yeah phase of it |
17299s | goes to a slow chart of death straight |
17301s | to being Undead without leaving a corpse |
17304s | that's very impressive uh no it still |
17306s | goes that it skips the dead stage |
17312s | [Music] |
17314s | they go straight from living to Undead |
17316s | right |
17320s | they'll get stole leaves a corpse |
17324s | nobody can utilize the corpses except |
17326s | for death Knights but it still leaves |
17327s | one |
17328s | strangely enough even if it's then |
17330s | reborn it's still Undead |
17339s | I need to rethink everything |
17351s | between gift and amulet I feel Emily so |
17354s | you can just start trading it |
17356s | yeah I think something to be useful for |
17359s | the purposes of drawing a card I think |
17360s | you'd rather be juicing The Amulet than |
17363s | drawing than uh recovering through |
17365s | Health right it just seems more useful |
17367s | across the long term |
17370s | especially if those amulets are going to |
17371s | turn into plagues brothers or uh Midas |
17374s | at any point |
17376s | foreign disagrees |
17382s | who am I to doubt |
17387s | the hopper of bunnies |
17392s | I would imagine you will want to get |
17395s | this Arcane intellect cast at some point |
17397s | and this looks like the turn to do it |
17398s | yep just get that into the pool now for |
17400s | the dawn grasp |
17405s | again this is not gonna be a straight up |
17408s | fatigue matchup even if it was the Mage |
17411s | would not be in the conversation because |
17413s | they don't really have the way to extend |
17415s | the deck size in the way that the priest |
17416s | does so no real concerns from you you |
17418s | hear about drawing cards just wants to |
17420s | be able to cycle through to the heavy |
17422s | hitches as rapidly as possible |
17424s | foreign |
17439s | but |
17441s | I mean I feel like you can you can just |
17444s | extend like there's always like this |
17446s | okay well you know you don't want to |
17448s | overextend against priests |
17450s | because they have so much removal |
17454s | but you do have so many resources |
17457s | as this Mage death yeah |
17460s | specifically this one I mean |
17463s | in this the nerubians and the Prismatic |
17466s | Elementals you just have like infinite |
17468s | stuff |
17469s | yes you do but in this style of match-up |
17472s | the only removal card you need to be |
17473s | scared of is whirlpool and you need to |
17475s | be scared of it in a very specific way |
17477s | it's like don't get your Reckless |
17479s | Apprentice whirlpooled for example |
17481s | that's a bad plan |
17484s | yeah |
17485s | we've already seen uh one instance in |
17488s | this tournament where Whirlpool could |
17490s | have been used to incredible effect and |
17492s | did not do so but uh certainly sort of a |
17496s | unique mechanic that you do have to keep |
17497s | in mind that is a little bit different |
17499s | from just regular removal outside of |
17501s | that yeah I think go ahead and throw out |
17503s | all the Minions you can in the early |
17504s | game yeah |
17509s | they're pretty annoying board but I |
17510s | don't think bunny Hopper is too worried |
17511s | about it could make a value trade then |
17513s | give to the naaru |
17515s | deal the light shower Elemental up to |
17516s | full and also draw a card and see what's |
17519s | in the box for the venomous scorpion |
17520s | first |
17521s | shoot that maybe uh changes things |
17531s | ah yeah forgot about the objection |
17534s | yeah probably just gonna end up going |
17535s | double minions in this case then |
17540s | and forego the gift |
17548s | huh |
17550s | oh |
17553s | clear conscience |
17558s | no devour I think you need cheap stuff |
17560s | that can just be played you don't want |
17562s | your hand filled with all these |
17564s | sort of expensive situational cards yeah |
17568s | I agreed |
17570s | because handspace is almost always an |
17572s | issue with these style of control |
17573s | priests with any style because you're |
17576s | holding on to every card for a rainy day |
17581s | all right easy Dawn grass this turn you |
17583s | see the reaction from bunny is one of |
17585s | frustration |
17586s | of course very easy to sympathize with |
17588s | that and also with the zero Mana hero |
17590s | power banked all the way up until this |
17591s | point you do get the uh the immediate |
17593s | juice on the here about |
17607s | gotta think of what the play next turn |
17610s | is but I don't think a double trading |
17612s | this scorpion really makes much sense so |
17614s | I agreed |
17617s | oh yeah |
17619s | oh board clear hello clean that scene |
17628s | I mean the rest of the hand it's a fat |
17631s | sack of nothing |
17632s | yeah |
17633s | even |
17635s | oh |
17640s | I guess you're gifting you would rather |
17642s | like spirit guide or any other mid-range |
17645s | Dominion in your deck by a significant |
17647s | margin than clearing this board I think |
17651s | foreign |
17655s | what else do you actually have problem |
17657s | with like drawing for example the other |
17659s | light shower Elemental or a plague |
17661s | spreader is it's the perfect hero power |
17664s | interval on the other side you just be |
17665s | playing it straight into either trade |
17668s | plus ping or just straight up ping |
17670s | depending on whether it's for health or |
17671s | six health |
17676s | a counter argument at some point that's |
17679s | going to happen |
17688s | yep funny just essentially using some of |
17693s | the less flexible cards in the hand to |
17695s | clear up instead no great emergency to |
17697s | use the AOE |
17711s | honestly you can start thinking about |
17713s | long-term damage |
17715s | pretty soon |
17718s | you're a power of four currently I |
17721s | believe |
17733s | now freeze the Scorpion |
17735s | make sure that that can't answer the |
17738s | board the problem is he doesn't really |
17739s | have anything he particularly wants to |
17741s | commit immediately to the board state |
17753s | oh it appears TJ has disconnected and |
17755s | left me all on my own for a while |
17764s | yeah as cold Casey anything left |
17766s | proactive that you really wanted to do |
17768s | unless you were in the interest of |
17769s | dropping Varden |
17771s | on that turn just to clear up the |
17772s | problem of the Scorpio but that doesn't |
17774s | really seem worth it in this scenario |
17784s | and so far you he's done a really really |
17786s | good job of just making awkward board |
17788s | states that are threatening enough |
17790s | especially when backed up with the hero |
17791s | power |
17792s | to make bunny have to react to them but |
17795s | never making a board that's really good |
17797s | enough for bunny to feel comfortable |
17799s | ripping a premium AOE spell but just |
17801s | understands he kind of has to in this |
17803s | spot and does so UE does get a light |
17805s | bulb out of the hand |
17814s | and that means now UE can start to get |
17817s | some value out of these viziers oh |
17820s | okay |
17825s | this is already a straight up choice |
17828s | between the two roads to El Paso |
17833s | because Fireball Mass polymorph are both |
17835s | two excellent choices here for different |
17839s | reasons |
17841s | Fireball supporting the damage plan with |
17843s | the hero powers and the brown Reckless |
17845s | etc etc Mass polymorph kind of |
17848s | preventing you from getting plague |
17850s | spreaded a meaning that you then get to |
17852s | keep those cards like brand Reckless and |
17854s | everything else |
17856s | I think this is a very very tough |
17858s | decision watch him now just take |
17860s | roondorb having been the card that I |
17862s | haven't talked about at all |
17868s | okay does go Mouse Paulie bye now |
17874s | and okay ends up best to both worlds |
17876s | perfect |
17884s | oh sorry I just realized this whole time |
17886s | I was getting baited by the fact that |
17888s | the text on the thing is still wrong |
17890s | it's just gone from three damage to four |
17893s | my mistake that'll teach me for reading |
17896s | things that are written on the actual |
17898s | game UI and trusting them |
17905s | I wonder |
17908s | so already this is an enormous amount of |
17910s | damage building up and again now because |
17912s | of the mass polymorph security blanket |
17915s | bunny is gonna have a great deal of |
17917s | difficulty in terms of uh getting a |
17919s | plague spreader train rolling |
17921s | so if the first one doesn't die it's |
17923s | then not being resurrected by any of the |
17925s | cards that do so |
17927s | you use looking in pretty good shape |
17930s | right now overall |
17935s | I think just has to start parceling out |
17937s | this damage hey buddy how's it going all |
17939s | right |
17944s | wow looks like nothing's changed well |
17947s | things so the hero power has been |
17949s | upgraded a bit it's now at four and |
17951s | there is a fireball and a mass polymorph |
17954s | in the hand which is you know very |
17956s | useful |
17957s | for both damage and for dealing with the |
17959s | plate spreaders after that yep pretty |
17962s | much equilibrium has been resumed bunny |
17964s | was forced to use a light bulb at one |
17966s | point and apart from that not a lot is |
17968s | going on okay |
17971s | sounds good thanks for catching me up |
17973s | see your turret drawn |
17975s | no idea Wendy would want to use it |
17980s | uh when I mean I guess my answer is when |
17983s | you have Mana to spend which is kind of |
17984s | now it doesn't really have Mana to spend |
17987s | on anything else at the moment yeah I'd |
17990s | be worried to ruin here in case you get |
17992s | too much like car draw and overdraw yep |
17995s | oh |
18000s | I don't even know |
18002s | okay okay |
18005s | yeah desperate for just to prevent the |
18007s | healing actually ghost face with the |
18009s | hero power as well instead of shooting |
18010s | the own uh his own Theater which is |
18012s | always a debate to be had |
18015s | yeah I probably would have shot the |
18017s | theater to be honest |
18020s | Maybe |
18021s | I'm used to it having four health so TJ |
18024s | what you're forgetting though is that |
18026s | it's a four four |
18028s | um and as Lorinda will tell you even in |
18031s | the year 2022 that makes it a mortal |
18034s | against priests so this this fall |
18036s | forward just connects for like 30 damage |
18038s | this game yeah nah you you right you're |
18040s | right yeah |
18041s | oh got a plague spreader oh wow okay |
18046s | now you see what he's actually drawn is |
18049s | a sheep |
18053s | true |
18055s | light two sheep in fact |
18058s | that's the final step |
18062s | flow chart |
18064s | they're being dead Undead corpse risen |
18068s | corpse sheep |
18079s | I mean it feels like a pretty darn good |
18081s | Mass polymorph doesn't it though |
18084s | I was just I was talking about this |
18086s | right before you rejoined like it's not |
18090s | just this plague spreader doesn't turn |
18092s | your brand or your Reckless Apprentice |
18093s | into a plague spreader it's also one |
18097s | doesn't go in the pool so now it's not |
18099s | coming back from amulet it's not coming |
18100s | back from the 2-4 it's not coming back |
18102s | uh from uh the hero card or any such |
18106s | nonsense like you're just dealing with |
18108s | so much of the problem in front of you |
18110s | by polymorphing this thing yeah |
18114s | and the question is once again do you |
18116s | ping the theater before you mask |
18117s | polymorph or do you shoot that damage |
18119s | phase because your argument of it's four |
18121s | four Never Gonna Die |
18124s | it doesn't exist anymore be clear not my |
18127s | Oculus |
18128s | I have actually paid attention to the |
18131s | game after 2019 you know |
18137s | a little |
18142s | whoa oh dude whoa |
18147s | whoa |
18148s | okay |
18150s | there's a lot of Bird in Hand |
18153s | there is a lot of Bird in Hand here |
18162s | it's just |
18163s | somewhat Risky Business |
18167s | there's a large amount of that burn is |
18168s | reliant on the only two Minions that you |
18171s | currently have |
18172s | obviously it would take something a |
18174s | little adventurous to uh to blow this up |
18177s | right now before you're able to |
18178s | polymorph it but it's not impossible |
18188s | the light it burns |
18194s | okay |
18199s | I mean sisters falling up getting mass |
18203s | pollied is also a pretty big deal so |
18205s | it's another Minion that bone collar |
18206s | can't bring back then it's big |
18218s | but as the card we said bunny was going |
18220s | to be looking for it's gonna give him a |
18222s | whole lot of value |
18226s | Shadow spells that can heal are pretty |
18228s | limited though |
18232s | if that's his concern |
18234s | um you have like void Shard which is a |
18236s | void charge it's a feel yeah |
18239s | um you can get like Thrive which can |
18241s | pull heal from your deck but that's you |
18243s | know |
18244s | that you would have had anyway |
18248s | you can also get burst |
18251s | I mean it's again like void Shard and |
18254s | whatever the five Mana spell is that if |
18256s | you had an undead diet deal with two |
18257s | damage to all enemies and Shadow Wood on |
18261s | death I think got a word on death yeah |
18264s | um it's face damage too it's all enemies |
18266s | not it is yeah I feel like |
18269s | that more and more and more recently |
18271s | like AOE that also hits face it feels |
18273s | like that's more the norm now than it |
18275s | ever was yeah Unleashed fell I'm gonna |
18278s | yep we gotta make this different from |
18280s | fell screen blast |
18282s | oh no it's like six times better |
18286s | do you have a better idea nope ship |
18289s | it |
18300s | oh |
18304s | um well you saw the Wildfire plate so |
18307s | yep what do you want it is the question |
18311s | yep still an actual decision to be made |
18318s | I guess would |
18320s | Varela yes that's the one |
18324s | like it's only one Mana you're floated |
18326s | so much man in the game yeah agreed you |
18329s | might as well get the half of a damage |
18331s | each turn bonus that it's gonna give you |
18333s | at some point in the game |
18340s | all right |
18350s | not too quickly start collecting those |
18353s | void shards |
18375s | and there's the bone cooler |
18381s | yeah I'm not sure certainly the uh two |
18385s | significant ones on the previous board |
18386s | were both mass-pollied I would be lying |
18390s | if I claimed I knew every minion that |
18392s | had died before this |
18393s | uh Prince Renault light shower Elemental |
18396s | venomous scorpion |
18398s | [Music] |
18407s | none of which are Undead |
18414s | Burns coming in hot |
18424s | so far this game has been a very long |
18426s | and frustrating experience for Mr Hopper |
18430s | and this is kind of how it feels I mean |
18433s | you saw the reaction when the hero was |
18435s | played on turn seven right like you know |
18437s | you are in for a wildly uphill battle |
18440s | when that kind of thing happens yeah |
18445s | foreign |
18449s | was the plague spreader |
18453s | and that was shut down quite |
18455s | significantly |
18457s | uh that pick which I I don't think you |
18460s | were here for right when the discovers |
18461s | were made of the choices |
18465s | yeah so he played the two viziers having |
18468s | finally got the discount for them he |
18470s | played them both in the same turn |
18471s | um and then the first one was polymorph |
18473s | against Fireball and took the polymorph |
18476s | over the fireball which took him most of |
18479s | the turn to decide which of those two he |
18480s | wanted and then the second one just gave |
18482s | him the fireball again so he got to have |
18484s | the best of both worlds |
18486s | foreign |
18489s | ER oh gosh oh |
18493s | insane no minions in hand Dead next turn |
18498s | insane |
18507s | A desperate prayer flash |
18510s | um |
18516s | beer guide |
18519s | phone caller |
18524s | oh that is sick |
18526s | the flush behemoth |
18529s | um |
18531s | with like |
18532s | amulet and Bone collar it's just gonna |
18536s | pull all the contents from the deck and |
18538s | then keep resurrecting them |
18541s | yeah Fair |
18544s | that's a nice pickup from Call of the |
18546s | group it is I do kind of feel like |
18549s | Bonnie needed to do it like three or |
18550s | four turns ago though to have enough |
18552s | time to actually extend |
18555s | yeah |
18557s | he |
18559s | most of the time has another pink Target |
18562s | here with the flush pinky myth unless |
18564s | the baltus girlfriend hits it |
18566s | bring it up to seven |
18569s | sets |
18572s | do you ball |
18574s | it feels like a lot of damage not going |
18576s | phase to me at this point okay fine |
18583s | yeah and this dies |
18591s | this was the issue right I think you |
18594s | felt okay going for the Ping for six |
18596s | because some of the time you got three |
18598s | of that damage back by being able to |
18599s | attack with the Reckless Apprentice |
18602s | um but |
18603s | both this and well there's there's two |
18607s | different torn outcomes that could have |
18608s | come out of it right I suppose looking |
18609s | at it so |
18624s | light bomb ever consideration here |
18627s | foreign |
18635s | to blow up the plague spreader or what |
18637s | are we doing yeah pull up the plague |
18638s | spreader yeah I have to get a card out |
18641s | of hand that's expensive you could also |
18642s | the Light it burns the uh |
18645s | Reckless Apprentice but I guess the |
18647s | taunt still has a lot of value |
18650s | yeah true |
18653s | I'm not sure like now you've seen bran |
18656s | Reckless |
18657s | how dense is the pool of Minions that |
18659s | you're actually looking to destroy like |
18661s | obviously more dress is fantastic if you |
18663s | could uh get rid of that it's a big deal |
18666s | I feel like you've already missed the |
18669s | window okay that is a huge deal though |
18673s | yeah because the light share Elementals |
18675s | and the behemoths were the only ones |
18679s | that had died so did that first before |
18681s | the plague spreader was killed yep |
18684s | um to make sure the highest likelihood |
18686s | of like Charlie Elementals was there |
18689s | and I mean that's a lot of Health |
18694s | though that is a big hero power |
18699s | is it Rune time |
18702s | it's blizzard I think and then pig face |
18704s | sets up for lethal |
18710s | it's true actually yeah especially with |
18713s | this Wildfire on top of it as well |
18714s | you're doing eight then eight you have |
18716s | six more |
18717s | yeah so it sets up lethal through a hero |
18720s | power yeah exactly without the Wildfire |
18723s | you're then one off of being able to |
18724s | throw a hero power right which is a big |
18726s | big difference yeah and we'll see if |
18730s | bunny Hopper senses that right |
18733s | because if he does then it kind of has |
18735s | to be a light bomb |
18737s | yeah I do like the UE has just |
18739s | recognized how clearly focused you are |
18742s | on damage in this matchup as well just |
18744s | you can look at a lot of the decisions |
18745s | you know how painful it was for him not |
18748s | to take a fireball when Mass polymorph |
18750s | was obviously an amazing card to take |
18751s | Taking then the second polymorph |
18753s | immediately but also the theater |
18755s | decision just to Jack the desperate |
18756s | prayer away from the opponent is |
18758s | actually now reaching the point where |
18759s | it's incredibly relevant as we're |
18761s | getting to the end of the game |
18768s | I guess Shadow work ruin makes more |
18771s | sense |
18789s | okay |
18792s | pretty good turn |
18799s | okay there is now no longer anything |
18801s | that you can spend manner on |
18806s | although they're like I feel like you |
18808s | have any level of self-respect yeah so |
18810s | it kind of just makes it a rune for |
18812s | resources kind of turn I guess yeah |
18816s | just try and dig to that muldrash the |
18818s | other Reckless as quickly as possible |
18820s | all right he disagrees |
18824s | they keep spinning Mana ah killing this |
18826s | bone colored oh |
18828s | it's just plague spreader and |
18833s | uh Behemoth right |
18839s | not that Behemoth the other one the |
18840s | flesh one oh the nine drop right yeah |
18846s | uh Blackwater Behemoth though pretty |
18849s | fantastic draw |
18852s | er sorry out of nowhere is buddy just |
18855s | now winning this game how has this |
18857s | happened |
18869s | it's very healthy and you use just out |
18872s | of stuff yeah |
18877s | and I'm starting to question |
18880s | whether this Rune needed to be ripped a |
18882s | turn or two earlier |
18885s | because you years had |
18888s | very unimpressive turns right and like |
18891s | part of that is just due to the complete |
18893s | lack of resources that he has in hand |
18895s | right now |
18900s | all right now |
18904s | yeah not a single doubt in my mind that |
18907s | it is getting played this time that is |
18910s | an excellent start |
18918s | it's gone |
18922s | I didn't put Gaia in your deck |
18925s | yeah oh it removed place from the game |
18929s | the entire game all of hearthstone now |
18931s | you just saved everybody from playing |
18934s | spreader |
18935s | yeah if we'd have just cast that spell |
18937s | on mine render elucia a long time ago we |
18939s | could have saved ourselves about 18 |
18941s | months of Heartache uh no here's where |
18943s | you're wrong saddle it says removed from |
18945s | the game it does not say remove this |
18947s | Minion from the game wherever it is ah |
18950s | gotcha |
18952s | that's the distinction |
18956s | not a bad Rune didn't give resources |
18959s | which was the thing that you were |
18961s | struggling with the most but yeah it |
18963s | dealt with this board which |
18965s | had a lot of potential healing |
18968s | it did also because he kept the Finley |
18971s | it did at least remove what was a very |
18973s | nightmare potential board and because |
18974s | the plague spreader didn't actually go |
18976s | off it just got removed from the game uh |
18979s | he can just now swap into what is |
18981s | presumably his other Reckless Apprentice |
18984s | his uh more dress unless I've missed one |
18986s | of those cards being plague spreaded at |
18988s | some point which I don't think I have uh |
18990s | it was just the uh |
18993s | Grand Magister rahmath that's right yeah |
19004s | interesting |
19009s | could illuminate pick something you |
19012s | don't want and then Finley I don't know |
19024s | it's all falling apart for yui isn't it |
19026s | this looks so secure just four or five |
19029s | turns ago |
19030s | then that ton of damage though like he |
19032s | does he does |
19035s | but very soon we are going to be |
19037s | reaching the point where there are just |
19039s | lifesteal Minions on the board every |
19041s | turn |
19046s | you have ways to play around now of |
19048s | course you have freezes you also have |
19049s | solid Alibi which is another way to play |
19051s | around lifesteal because those minions |
19053s | are then only dealing one damage |
19056s | I have an idea |
19059s | okay more trash and ask the Lord okay |
19063s | [Music] |
19065s | stay where you are |
19068s | look at the if there's any like natural |
19070s | healing left in the deck for bunny |
19071s | Hopper |
19072s | um |
19074s | doesn't look like it except for zairella |
19077s | like the uh |
19079s | amen I |
19081s | hero right one |
19084s | there's Finley starred |
19091s | dirella dirella |
19094s | phone caller |
19099s | I don't even know anytime a card gets |
19101s | stolen or swapped it just yeah there's |
19104s | an amulet too |
19106s | hey there it is that's a ton of healing |
19109s | too oh my gosh yes it is died that's a |
19112s | Reno this is a Reno |
19117s | well it's a bunch of other stuff plus |
19118s | plague spreaders |
19122s | oh God you're right how many plague |
19124s | spreaders have actually died one who |
19126s | question mark yeah |
19128s | one was removed from this it was removed |
19131s | one was mass pollied there's one |
19138s | it was just one year it was just one |
19140s | okay |
19142s | is a big deal though yeah I think From |
19146s | yui's perspective mutinous |
19149s | the best one although if the mutinous |
19151s | eats the Madar now like is mutinous |
19155s | suddenly the best card in the deck it's |
19156s | really really hard to know |
19162s | I'll give you some overdraws here I |
19164s | believe |
19166s | nope |
19168s | oh he he cast The Shard last turn okay |
19171s | didn't trade it back cast it into the |
19173s | counter spell and I thought the flush |
19176s | Behemoth would pick up a |
19179s | ah no bone collar's not Undead okay it |
19181s | just brings back Undead it's not Undead |
19183s | itself that makes sense or otherwise |
19185s | could bring back itself for an infinite |
19187s | chain of undevs |
19193s | fly back back down to 21 again |
19204s | we'll set Emily that three |
19209s | unclear |
19210s | I think it's three |
19213s | guy to my hand let's see what silence |
19220s | the Drake amulet pink I guess |
19224s | oh didn't get any light showers back oh |
19227s | that's so bad |
19239s | is negating a chunk of this hero power |
19243s | back every other turn |
19252s | come on TJ stop looking at the other |
19255s | cards what do you think you're doing |
19257s | fine |
19261s | there's no way you have enough Infuse |
19263s | value left in your deck to make frozen |
19265s | touch the choice right surely |
19270s | Cold Case |
19273s | okay maybe |
19283s | also you do have the savara to consider |
19285s | as well right like frozen touch is a |
19288s | better card to put in the savara because |
19290s | you'll actually be able to do like |
19292s | surprise survara here's all my frozen |
19294s | touches back and shoot the opponent |
19295s | lethal whereas Rooney the art Mage is a |
19297s | very delayed setup with that yeah |
19300s | because if you cast the infused Frozen |
19302s | touch then if the savara gives you back |
19305s | the infused Frozen touch yep |
19309s | yep all right we've collectively talked |
19312s | ourselves into it |
19313s | seems smart |
19315s | [Music] |
19322s | bunny did not take as long to figure out |
19325s | yeah he's like oh wow okay forgot there |
19328s | was a Varden in Bunny's deck also |
19330s | there's two cards left which don't even |
19332s | ask me what they are |
19335s | bone collar and Viper |
19339s | okay you can ask me what they are |
19342s | TJ What are the two cards left in |
19344s | bunnyhopper's deck I believe bone collar |
19346s | and rushdrop Viper beautiful |
19353s | yeah I think he just gets there from |
19354s | here like it looks like it yeah |
19358s | um |
19361s | not being able to get the uh the Mida |
19363s | down up until this point |
19366s | like I feel like it's just got to be |
19369s | I |
19370s | know it's an objection up so you can't |
19381s | once this gets objected you know you |
19383s | have to heal because you have the |
19385s | perfect information there's a frozen |
19386s | touch in the hand you would be dead here |
19389s | without the heel every time |
19403s | Frozen touch Cold Case ping |
19413s | 21 damage on board with a six damage |
19417s | hero power 27. |
19419s | it's a it's got to be a guaranteed |
19421s | t-shirt though you would have thought so |
19426s | I get yeah you can also cast the other |
19427s | one and then savara |
19430s | and then Pig and yeah uh |
19434s | 15th damage next turn |
19438s | foreign |
19448s | [Music] |
19449s | devouring plague is about as good as it |
19451s | gets |
19453s | still some way short |
19456s | yep |
19459s | I think that'll do it |
19462s | yes but how |
19466s | I don't think I've I've seen with the |
19468s | new dawn grasping it up to nine |
19474s | yeah that is big while you were |
19476s | disconnected I was getting baited by the |
19477s | text for a while you know how it still |
19479s | says plus two when it pops up on the |
19481s | screen so I was counting one ahead of |
19483s | where it was for a while but yeah even |
19485s | with the plus one it's been got up to |
19487s | absolutely monstrous sizes and that is a |
19492s | ridiculous marathon of the first game I |
19494s | promised you a game that would be at |
19497s | least as long as the time it took us to |
19500s | get into the game and I always deliver |
19502s | on my promises |
19504s | right subtle deliver on Simon soddle |
19508s | delivers on his promises Welch so they |
19510s | call him be calling him that for years |
19513s | um and kind of a heartbreaker for bunny |
19515s | because at a certain point in that game |
19516s | it felt like he had a good grasp |
19518s | on uh on where things were |
19521s | but |
19522s | it just felt like there was so much that |
19524s | he wanted to do each and every turn yeah |
19527s | the sisters fauna basically didn't come |
19530s | into play except for like the one called |
19532s | the grave into flush Behemoth with let |
19534s | some cool stuff happen |
19536s | um but hand size was too full there were |
19538s | secrets to test for |
19540s | um there was healing to be done like |
19543s | there so much that he needed to do every |
19545s | single turn yeah just survived the |
19548s | onslaught of pings that never even got |
19550s | the miter down despite drawing it yes |
19552s | not super early but with like you know |
19555s | 15 14 cards left in deck so |
19558s | uh never had the Mana that's the part |
19561s | that really bothered me and it was why I |
19563s | was getting so antsy uh during yui's end |
19567s | game so early end game period where he |
19571s | had those one or two week turns and it |
19573s | didn't look like he intended to use the |
19575s | the Rune to try and draw cards right |
19577s | because it felt like if he had one more |
19580s | weak turn then bunny was gonna go okay |
19581s | sick midr passed like you've given me |
19584s | the turn that I need to actually get |
19586s | this in play and then that would become |
19588s | a pretty significant problem for you you |
19589s | moving forward but there was definitely |
19591s | a moment there where where Bonnie made |
19593s | me believe against all logic that that |
19595s | was a winnable game in pro wrestling |
19597s | terms I bit on the near four TJ but then |
19600s | you you kicked out at 2.9 and ended up |
19602s | winning |
19603s | what |
19606s | I can't even begin to deduce what that |
19610s | might mean |
19613s | like even with the context of your |
19615s | analogy I have no idea yeah okay so to a |
19619s | non-restling fan right like we all |
19620s | understand that wrestling is |
19622s | predetermined and who wins is decided |
19624s | before the match right and so going into |
19626s | a match no yeah going into a match |
19629s | sometimes it's really obvious to |
19630s | everyone involved what the outcome of |
19632s | the match is going to be right like it's |
19634s | a big title match you know that the |
19635s | Challenger isn't built up enough in |
19637s | storyline to win the title right but |
19640s | then in the match there can be a moment |
19642s | where they hit a particular move and |
19644s | then they go for the cover and you're |
19645s | just caught up in the moment you're like |
19647s | oh my God they've actually won right |
19648s | like you you forget every logical part |
19651s | of your brain and you go oh my God they |
19653s | actually did it I've just been wrong |
19654s | this whole time they're actually going |
19655s | to win and then the other guy kicks out |
19657s | at 2.9 as opposed to three and it's |
19659s | called biting on the near Four |
19662s | there you go I was so close to |
19664s | understanding it and then you just threw |
19666s | it the same words right back at me at |
19669s | the end to explain the end of the |
19672s | analogy okay so 4.9 come in and so you |
19676s | count to three that's how you count up |
19678s | in for one two three okay so if you're |
19680s | kicking out a 2.9 that's the closest you |
19682s | can get to kicking out the full is it |
19685s | like the end of the match right the fall |
19687s | is the decision that ends the match the |
19689s | PIN for the submission that you're |
19691s | biting as in believing the near fall |
19695s | yes are we all on the same page yeah all |
19698s | right cool beautiful analogy thank you |
19700s | thank you |
19704s | well done |
19705s | Round of Applause hey out of Applause |
19708s | everybody involved here everyone yeah |
19710s | including you the viewer yes |
19714s | um all right |
19716s | jackpot Rogue 17 |
19719s | 740 deaths as opposed to twenty one |
19721s | thousand so this will be |
19722s | long but not as long as the last one |
19724s | based on that count but uh jackpot Rogue |
19727s | it feels like it's just been getting the |
19729s | job done it's been Scrappy it's been |
19731s | dirty it's been |
19734s | ugly but |
19736s | uh I'm out of descriptors but it's |
19740s | winning and that's the important part |
19744s | absolutely no I uh do also love this |
19748s | decision from uh yuyi deciding that nope |
19752s | we do not want to be playing another 45 |
19753s | minute game after that level of nonsense |
19756s | straight back to the Demon Hunter Where |
19759s | We Belong this is more like it TJ this |
19761s | is my speed |
19763s | Lamborghini speed straight off a cliff |
19765s | straight to the Moon |
19770s | where possessive is waiting |
19779s | for dimensions |
19783s | get rid of all this other stuff |
19786s | oh no |
19788s | oh no |
19796s | and this is the ugly side of the |
19798s | dimensions keep is uh spectral site get |
19801s | stranded |
19802s | um I I think there's a direct |
19804s | correlation between the players who play |
19806s | one spectral site which is quite rare |
19808s | and people who think you keep relative |
19811s | dimensions like 100 of the time in all |
19813s | circumstances right because this is the |
19815s | instance where the spectral site is |
19817s | ludicrously annoying like you'd rather |
19819s | that was just about any other card in |
19820s | this spot yeah |
19823s | except |
19828s | magistrates short |
19831s | meltronics ultronics man yeah where did |
19834s | I come up with that word I don't know is |
19837s | that even a is that even a card no |
19839s | there's like magisters that you've kind |
19841s | of shoehorned into maltronics who's a |
19844s | prosecutor |
19846s | yeah I don't really know what's happened |
19847s | there TJ I can't defend you on that one |
19849s | oh it is someone that has an |
19851s | encyclopedic knowledge of every card |
19853s | name in Hearthstone like honestly I feel |
19856s | like I should hold you is the uh |
19859s | quartermaster for Silver Moon city in in |
19861s | World of Warcraft ah okay |
19865s | the more you know |
19870s | that's a great draw |
19873s | oh |
19875s | we have a drake fire amulet situation |
19878s | over here |
19880s | it's down the Trek firing him a little |
19882s | arm subtle quick |
19885s | uh nope that's not the right one oh |
19888s | sorry |
19889s | [Music] |
19891s | yeah that that had my references mixed |
19894s | up sorry |
19896s | yeah you actually sounded the prince |
19898s | Kellis at the alarm |
19901s | we'll have to use that one in years yeah |
19903s | calm down everybody there's no Prince |
19904s | Kelly set here |
19907s | go back to your beds |
19918s | they're gonna scam away |
19920s | job's done force of nature too just |
19923s | prepping it out yeah well I know it |
19925s | right this is the Curve |
19927s | just how it works |
19929s | three two twos into two giant dragons |
19931s | with an extra tutu just hitching along |
19934s | for the ride |
19937s | you you saw the prep too oh prep Force |
19941s | nature wow all right I mean at six |
19943s | damage but I got time right I got time |
19946s | yep |
19948s | you wanna know the really depressing |
19950s | thing if you're you |
19952s | these dragons are coming down into the |
19954s | turn where you really want to just spend |
19956s | five Mana drawing cards yeah |
19959s | laughs |
19978s | he would be wise to try and remove some |
19982s | pressure here and I did say try that was |
19984s | the operative word |
19986s | because he'll know the threat of |
19988s | trickster right I don't think he'll |
19989s | necessarily be envisioning absolute |
19991s | worst case scenario but he does know |
19993s | that a significant amount of pressure |
19994s | can come out here |
19998s | okay |
20007s | leafy Dragon extra medium but you will |
20009s | take the death Wing there every time |
20011s | and yeah I feel you |
20029s | there is lethal presented on board so |
20033s | but what are you gonna do you know |
20036s | what are you gonna do type situations |
20038s | yeah big fan of the what are you gonna |
20041s | do philosophy |
20042s | yeah and this is the first first one |
20045s | cast too first Relic second will be the |
20047s | second Relic so yeah you need one of |
20049s | these cards to be a silver moon okay |
20051s | step one complete because now that goes |
20054s | down to zero it not only had to be a |
20055s | silver moon it had to be a silver moon |
20057s | in the second set of cards that were |
20058s | discounted by two but you then did also |
20061s | need unleash fell and fell that was |
20064s | really close actually like all he needs |
20067s | was the unleash to go alongside that and |
20068s | then he has spell damage unleash Fel |
20070s | barrage Relic yeah |
20073s | that was Demon Hunter is yeah |
20080s | this was the the scam to end all scams |
20083s | and still yeah was a single card away |
20088s | on turn four for being able to come back |
20091s | from that can survive with the fell |
20092s | barrage |
20095s | um but then that reduces the amount of |
20097s | clear potential next turn if and |
20099s | Unleashed fell is picked up oh |
20104s | Audrey Grave Digger and the way this |
20106s | game's going you nobody sees this zero |
20110s | amount of Silver Moon |
20112s | now unlucky |
20114s | so it's a forecast skill Trader so you |
20117s | probably get rid of the extinction in |
20119s | this situation I think so yeah |
20123s | an encounter argument the location that |
20125s | you can see is an up but there's no |
20127s | reason why they couldn't have the other |
20128s | one as well on one of the cards they're |
20130s | not looking at |
20132s | do you think it is Relic yep |
20137s | oh would you look at that |
20144s | you take the free draw first evaluate |
20146s | take the second free draw evaluate |
20151s | I see |
20153s | unleash fell please okay |
20156s | unbelievably we actually continue to |
20159s | have a game of Hearthstone |
20173s | if you can even comprehend in your tiny |
20176s | little mind |
20178s | hey |
20182s | my brain's tiny oh tree |
20192s | is your favorite he might be favors |
20195s | no yeah I was just biting on an Air |
20198s | Force okay |
20203s | another happy guilty |
20206s | because this is one of this is probably |
20208s | gonna be one of those not gonna have the |
20211s | discounts necessary unless you play |
20212s | kirchers kind of games |
20216s | yeah if you can't find the time to get |
20218s | that curtress down though right like |
20220s | still one fell barrage remaining still |
20223s | one no still both extinctions remaining |
20226s | because the first one was shuffled back |
20227s | into the deck so yeah it didn't get the |
20229s | Vault down which |
20232s | you know may not be the biggest ideals |
20233s | but the ability to go like Vault yeah uh |
20237s | uh Dimensions pick up an Extinction and |
20240s | then Vault Extinction with still a |
20241s | little bit of Mana to play with |
20244s | one man always trust a little bit just |
20247s | one is a big deal and now private eye is |
20250s | going to come out so we got the ice trap |
20252s | from the first perjury we're gonna get |
20253s | the second perjury which also could have |
20255s | something pretty impactful there's also |
20256s | a test which can |
20259s | recast a uh Drake fire amulet if there's |
20263s | board space |
20264s | but if there's not board space then you |
20268s | use dead so yeah and just to pick up on |
20271s | the point from earlier I I know your |
20272s | right brain knows this but you know that |
20274s | wasn't just float one Mana don't play |
20276s | the location for no reason there was a |
20278s | secret up on the other side right so you |
20280s | have to have that in mind all the time |
20282s | when playing against Rogue on the other |
20283s | side as it happens it was just the |
20285s | poetry |
20287s | yeah |
20289s | at that yeah true if it's double cross |
20291s | at that point though |
20293s | you may just give them the draw because |
20295s | they have all the everything they need |
20296s | on the board to win as it is |
20301s | foreign |
20303s | [Music] |
20308s | okay |
20310s | that's a clear right |
20312s | ah yes |
20318s | short |
20321s | S |
20322s | search Within Me |
20328s | what's that five five six six five five |
20330s | six six yeah |
20337s | that there was a way right yeah this is |
20339s | one of them |
20341s | the one I saw as well was like two fives |
20343s | hitting the death wing and then a six |
20345s | hits the three four or six hits the four |
20346s | seven the four seven lives but this is |
20348s | the outcome that just ends up directly |
20350s | being lethal needed those break points |
20353s | to work out very favorably in the end |
20354s | and they did not do so bunny just about |
20358s | gets there but honestly I think that's a |
20361s | much closer game than it has any right |
20364s | to be well first off it does have the |
20366s | right to be a close game your opponent's |
20367s | not necessarily entitled to just go |
20369s | trickster two giant dragons from Drake |
20371s | on turn four but after that point the |
20375s | fact that Demon Hunter was still in that |
20376s | game is kind of ridiculous but Demon |
20379s | Hunter was still in that game like make |
20381s | no mistake about it |
20383s | um and you know we we kind of moved on |
20384s | to the end of the game but just again |
20386s | picking up your point of like yeah they |
20388s | have the stuff on the board so you kind |
20390s | of feel fine about letting them draw the |
20391s | cards I kind of disagree with that |
20393s | because if I was a Demon Hunter in that |
20395s | position I would be very interested just |
20397s | like okay kill these two things and then |
20400s | there's a good chance there's style of |
20401s | resources and then I can probably find |
20404s | the turn to play kurtress right and then |
20406s | the game becomes winnable as long as |
20407s | they don't have that immediate reload |
20409s | after I draw the fell barrage or the |
20411s | relic of Extinction or whatever it is I |
20413s | need to be able to clear this board so I |
20415s | think UE had a fair old stab at being |
20417s | able to pick that apart but I think |
20418s | Bonnie after that exhausting first game |
20420s | uh will be pleased that the Hearthstone |
20422s | Gods just uh just handed in the nuts in |
20424s | game two yeah well my argument would be |
20427s | you know maybe finding a way to kill |
20429s | those two things is made easier by |
20431s | having a sec spending one man honestly |
20433s | yep yep |
20435s | um so like step one before step two |
20438s | playing with the cards in your hand and |
20440s | the cards in your deck |
20442s | and ignoring your opponent's cards TJ |
20444s | we're just taking two entirely different |
20446s | roads to El Paso right now |
20449s | that's right |
20452s | [Music] |
20454s | you're the Admiral now |
20457s | oh God no |
20459s | all right all tied up heading into a |
20462s | Demon Hunter mirror |
20467s | this is a full mirror |
20469s | is it card for card no double marker |
20471s | scoring for bunny Hopper |
20472s | yeah |
20474s | my differences as they tend to be wait |
20477s | no double marker scoring for both |
20480s | wait really yep I thought you was a cow |
20483s | strike gamer oh he is he's a double k |
20486s | he's a one need for greed gamer right |
20489s | gotcha yeah that's the difference yep |
20495s | um Bonnie is a one spectral sightgamer |
20497s | instead yep |
20500s | and under Neil's logic bunny took a sip |
20503s | of his beverage first this series |
20506s | visibly |
20507s | I I love how the first time he brought |
20510s | that up the very next game the exact |
20513s | opposite happened it did not even wait |
20516s | to shatter his narrative |
20520s | that's the stuff |
20522s | that is the stuff right there |
20526s | get it in play |
20530s | No One Believes you have other choices |
20532s | bunny this never works play your two |
20534s | drop thank you I thought it was funny |
20536s | that the uh |
20538s | bolt as a as a noun right |
20542s | like the the two |
20545s | things that a vault is are like complete |
20547s | opposites |
20550s | you know what I'm talking about |
20552s | no the two things it is is a noun yeah |
20555s | like one is a vault okay you wanna you |
20558s | know keep something |
20560s | safe right so you stick it out so nobody |
20563s | can get to it yeah the other one's like |
20566s | I want this thing to go to the Moon |
20571s | short |
20573s | [Music] |
20574s | at the Olympic fault |
20577s | I want this human being as high in the |
20579s | air as possible |
20582s | without the use of electronics |
20584s | robotics |
20588s | or rocketronics |
20591s | all the all the Onyx oh |
20595s | but I I specified as a noun isn't that |
20599s | as a verb so-called the vault |
20603s | isn't it |
20604s | okay the name of the event like pole |
20607s | vault yeah I suppose so |
20610s | sure all right I'll allow it |
20616s | I'll allow it |
20625s | actually don't think it is |
20627s | true kind of is like the event name |
20630s | right but |
20634s | because I thought you were going to talk |
20635s | about like grooves like isn't volt a |
20638s | name for like a a church roof or some |
20641s | some kind some kind of architectural |
20642s | thing I think the other noun definition |
20644s | yeah it is yeah okay |
20646s | like a vaulted ceiling right yes exactly |
20649s | and I'm like how are those two things |
20651s | that uh opposite I'm very confusing even |
20653s | even in TJ brainworld that seemed like a |
20655s | reach yeah |
20657s | we got ourselves a game though yes we do |
20660s | both players with |
20662s | uh Vault plus Dimension bunny Hoppers |
20665s | got a little bit of a leg up because |
20668s | got a vaulted Extinction |
20671s | so his his Relic vaulted Relic |
20675s | actually is going to go to the Moon |
20683s | foreign |
20699s | yeah I think need the great trades first |
20702s | oh |
20705s | however |
20708s | you use it difficult card to use in the |
20710s | matchup |
20712s | um for me this has been one of the |
20713s | hardest things to figure out a high |
20715s | level with this deck is particularly in |
20717s | this mirror there's not |
20720s | infinite amounts of agency in the mirror |
20722s | but I do feel like when you put these |
20725s | big minions in play is one of the big |
20727s | decision points because not only can |
20729s | they be threatening to the opponent |
20730s | they're also the thing that stops them |
20732s | just you know killing you dealing 26 for |
20734s | you on like turn six without even using |
20736s | their Jace and killing you you know yeah |
20739s | um so |
20740s | I do think that was a little bit of an |
20742s | awkward decision about whether to go for |
20743s | the tempo or try and continue cycling |
20745s | for a quest proc |
20750s | yeah or you know also just having the |
20753s | guild Trader in the deck for when you |
20754s | Dimensions next turn yeah true yeah be |
20757s | able to have like the really cheap spell |
20759s | damage alongside an already discounted |
20761s | Jace you know it's just kind of by one |
20763s | but still that can sometimes be the |
20765s | Difference Maker oh that's nothing |
20768s | that's nothing that is all pretty much |
20770s | nothing yeah |
20773s | that ain't it |
20776s | yeah you see big Shake of the head |
20778s | coming out there from you yeah he knows |
20780s | that is a pretty miserable relic of |
20783s | Dimensions does get to create the board |
20785s | swing here if he wants but I am curious |
20787s | with the relic of phantasms costing zero |
20790s | whether he has the same decision really |
20791s | and again does just choose to go for the |
20793s | immediate tempo |
20799s | all right Buddy's turn yep |
20804s | peppers are off the top not terrible you |
20806s | can always be trade away you know that |
20808s | it's not gonna be one of the discounted |
20809s | cards better better |
20815s | foreign |
20819s | I have never seen a more dead human |
20821s | being the New Year this game |
20827s | oh |
20829s | he's dead next turn |
20835s | you're right you're right |
20839s | is he |
20841s | presuming I think that like I haven't |
20843s | literally haven't counted so it's 20 24 |
20845s | plus yes it's 20 no |
20849s | hold that right okay now they're dead |
20851s | next |
20852s | uh 24 29 yeah yeah uh you wouldn't have |
20855s | enough man at a hero power exactly so |
20857s | assuming the dimensions hit one extra |
20859s | piece of damage which it did most of the |
20861s | time yeah uh two minions left in the |
20865s | deck |
20866s | [Music] |
20867s | you can also I guess you can't pick up |
20870s | any other free damage but yes it is |
20874s | very likely it's just lethal yeah |
20879s | no way you can fit in the hero power |
20880s | anyway what are you talking about |
20882s | yep |
20897s | bunny just has to not be dead right now |
20899s | is there any way that this can be |
20900s | stopped what about uh a second Relic |
20904s | Vault into Phantasm yeah that would stop |
20906s | it |
20908s | you need minions in play that are larger |
20911s | than 5 HP |
20915s | foreign |
20918s | you died |
20922s | I grow short |
20925s | because from here you would need to draw |
20927s | a card for zero Mana to get the |
20929s | phantasms discounted to two and still be |
20931s | able to play it |
20945s | I mean it's not an insignificant amount |
20947s | of damage next turn for yui either like |
20950s | that's the key that's the key part of |
20952s | that sentence next turn |
20957s | there it is |
20959s | that's uh more than enough damage water |
20962s | deck 37 potent that's a 37 maximum uh 30 |
20968s | potions eight maximum |
20971s | if the Market's scoring were to hit |
20973s | search Within Me |
20976s | oh he's ripping that Mark of school he's |
20979s | assigned dominance |
20989s | oh okay well bunny hopper one game away |
20995s | from the finals of the World |
20997s | Championship |
20998s | uh it it will come down to the priest |
21002s | for bunny Hopper |
21004s | um and we are speed running dupriest |
21007s | versus priests |
21014s | speed running two priests versus priests |
21017s | as opposed to speed running priests |
21018s | versus priest which is an entirely |
21020s | different Beast |
21022s | yep all right well you still got the |
21026s | Demon Hunter |
21027s | um I mean I felt like even in that game |
21030s | was like |
21033s | it wasn't one card off from like |
21035s | surviving or winning but like a hit the |
21038s | Relic Vault for for zero so uh second |
21041s | phantasms which I think was still in the |
21043s | deck |
21044s | um had been picked up that would have |
21046s | put enough in the way to where I don't |
21048s | think bunny Hopper would have had lethal |
21050s | unless off the top was the other |
21052s | Unleashed fell |
21053s | uh because it would have been |
21056s | um what are we 5566 so the two six sixes |
21059s | would have gotten in the way |
21061s | The Relic the was the location up though |
21063s | did you or you have a second location he |
21066s | he picked one of the cards that he drew |
21068s | from the dimensions oh it would have |
21069s | been six six seven seven actually he |
21071s | played the dimensions uh drew a zero |
21074s | Mana Relic |
21076s | uh our zermint of Vault uh so if the |
21079s | second card pixel about all picked up |
21082s | alongside that which ended up being a |
21084s | mark of score and was second phantasms |
21086s | he could have vaulted phantasms had six |
21089s | six six seven seven seven seven on the |
21091s | board uh then bunny would have needed to |
21093s | draw either second unleash or Extinction |
21096s | of his own to be able to clear up the |
21098s | minions but he'd already used because he |
21100s | used early Extinction to juice his |
21102s | dimensions and then use the second |
21104s | Extinction to clear the four fours right |
21106s | so that even wasn't even an option in |
21108s | episode so yeah still not that far away |
21110s | even in that ridiculous spot from UE |
21112s | being in that game but enough about the |
21116s | past this is about the present and |
21118s | future of the Hearthstone World |
21120s | Championship TJ and this is the matchup |
21122s | that briefly while we were talking about |
21124s | Hearthstone during the introduction to |
21126s | the series I did bring up and say that |
21129s | the priest has done a little better in |
21131s | this matchup than I ever really expected |
21134s | to see and there is a recipe right there |
21138s | for Success that is an opening hand Jace |
21141s | which will sit there and be potential |
21144s | plague food for the entire game now |
21147s | yep and I was having the conversation |
21150s | with Lorinda earlier about like plague |
21153s | spreader timing in the matchup |
21154s | [Music] |
21155s | um because like there's so many times |
21157s | where you play it on curve and they just |
21160s | like trade away their Guild trade or |
21162s | fell barrage it and move on their merry |
21163s | way you know |
21166s | um where it gets more Awkward once you |
21167s | start like drawing more cards like turn |
21169s | five turn six I still think it's correct |
21171s | to just get it out there because even if |
21173s | it dies you can still bring it back with |
21175s | the various uh resurrect effects that |
21177s | you do have yep |
21179s | um but it was just an interesting |
21181s | conversation that I have with larinda |
21183s | that I wanted to share with you subtle |
21185s | oh thanks I feel very included in your |
21188s | friendship now I I appreciate it thank |
21191s | you for welcoming me into the the warm |
21194s | bosom that is your relationship with |
21195s | Lorinda |
21198s | yeah we like to party |
21200s | yeah that's how we get down |
21204s | uh okay so need for greed picked up so I |
21207s | think coin need for greed is certainly |
21209s | on the menu yep |
21222s | yeah pretty medium |
21241s | I would favor the Scorpion here I think |
21244s | there is an argument |
21246s | to going fishing with tradable and |
21249s | Thrive just looking for more cycle |
21251s | options to try and get yourself to that |
21253s | plague spreader as quickly as possible |
21255s | uh but venomous corporate can provide |
21257s | you with a potential card draw here |
21260s | anyway find tradable spells Etc |
21263s | Bonnie disagrees |
21267s | amulet |
21268s | okay fine |
21271s | get it back in the deck |
21276s | Whirlpool also could be interesting in |
21279s | the matchup if the Demon Hunter goes |
21281s | slow and they have to leave spell damage |
21282s | on the board |
21287s | something to note |
21289s | indeed |
21292s | and the next turn could go like Trade |
21294s | Restaurant Viper and venomous scorpid |
21302s | that's an odd schedule draw |
21305s | yeah I don't even know if you want to |
21307s | play the spectral site |
21310s | because you're not completing Quest |
21312s | I think you're playing at this time just |
21313s | to draw two cards right like you can |
21315s | just go sigil but like just play the |
21318s | three cards on the right hand side of |
21319s | your hand essentially right just go |
21320s | sigil spectral location |
21323s | no okay fine I think hand space is going |
21326s | to be an issue like if the spectral site |
21327s | picks up cards you're not completing |
21329s | class spectrosite picks up cards that |
21332s | aren't being discounted but can't be |
21334s | traded away |
21336s | your hand is going to be really awkward |
21339s | but your hand size doesn't become a |
21341s | problem until you draw relic of |
21342s | dimensions and you haven't done that yet |
21347s | my stance is always go with the Samuel |
21349s | style play style |
21350s | [Laughter] |
21353s | it's crazy I just told the story that's |
21355s | already come up |
21358s | he's playing as if it's going to come |
21360s | off the sigil |
21363s | first card off the situ yeah yeah |
21365s | discount yeah yeah |
21370s | I swear the things that I say into |
21371s | becoming relevant but cool |
21375s | even that's arguable oh yeah I think it |
21378s | needed to actually happen before you |
21380s | could uh in that one on your resume hey |
21382s | it didn't always happen to Samuel style |
21384s | either |
21385s | true yeah |
21389s | although it did seem to happen quite a |
21391s | lot it did yeah |
21401s | this is |
21403s | painful hand holy |
21409s | drop |
21411s | yeah |
21416s | and about plague spreading but there is |
21418s | pain spreading across yuyi's face right |
21421s | now with each turn that goes past |
21423s | without a significant card draw card |
21425s | coming out of the deck obviously that uh |
21428s | need for greed already used and as we |
21430s | mentioned before UE is a solitary need |
21432s | for greed gamer |
21435s | [Music] |
21437s | I mean it it still could all end up just |
21440s | being fine I'm like oh yeah of course |
21443s | still Demon Hunter after all and Bunny |
21444s | Hopper is not doing |
21446s | really much of anything |
21449s | okay there it is |
21453s | it could even uh Relic Extinction then |
21456s | Relic dimensions |
21464s | I think I like that actually |
21466s | you dump the Fury at the end |
21470s | like with location proc on both with |
21472s | location proc on both yeah |
21475s | because it just juices the dimensions |
21477s | more right yeah which at this point |
21479s | could be relevant because you you need |
21480s | like free spell damage minions yup with |
21483s | an 88 Mana Jace yep |
21494s | he would have been one and three |
21498s | I would have been free and free |
21505s | results oriented thinking |
21508s | the best kind |
21516s | now let's get the upside this way though |
21517s | if you drew uh phantasms which he did he |
21520s | gets to extend onto the Border medium |
21525s | [Applause] |
21530s | he didn't do it he didn't do it all |
21532s | right fine he didn't do it he just be |
21534s | like that oh yeah if I care |
21538s | I mean I'm gonna give him the benefit of |
21539s | the doubt but |
21542s | also I'm gonna politely |
21545s | say that I disagree |
21547s | oh there it is |
21551s | it's party time |
21558s | no I went before we started casting |
21564s | where you went |
21566s | and it's party time |
21568s | I said I already went before oh I see |
21571s | okay fine |
21574s | thanks though |
21575s | and welcome |
21579s | uh weirdly enough TJ was actually the |
21581s | last living being in his house to be |
21583s | potty trained |
21586s | we're actually potty training Noah right |
21589s | now |
21590s | like they're they're on break from |
21593s | school for my Christmas break |
21595s | [Music] |
21601s | oh but he doesn't know he lacks critical |
21605s | information I I don't even have like |
21608s | I didn't even have time to analyze the |
21610s | situation and you just ripped an |
21612s | Extinction and got his Jace plagued ah |
21615s | there was a lot of time we were talking |
21617s | about parties too sure yeah yeah to be |
21620s | fair much of my life has been wasting my |
21622s | talking about the body |
21623s | [Laughter] |
21627s | ah I don't even be surprised |
21631s | your fault for having kids really |
21632s | wouldn't it yeah |
21637s | foreign |
21643s | if that is the only plague spreader that |
21647s | UE gets hit with this game |
21650s | and this is not over |
21654s | you can absolutely |
21656s | dildo 40 without Jace |
21660s | he loses one more spell damage minion he |
21663s | is in a world of trouble yep |
21668s | [Music] |
21671s | what knowledge do the stars provide |
21676s | and there's some more |
21685s | hide them in the deck |
21689s | yeah keep the rush Rod Viper I guess the |
21693s | plank spreader's there on the Far Rock |
21695s | suit yep the old Chase |
21698s | the Old Trader take cover |
21702s | not safe outside no it's not safe out |
21705s | here |
21709s | for this don't you understand |
21715s | God it's like the last two years |
21718s | stay inside |
21720s | Jesus |
21728s | still of 50 50 though |
21735s | I drove short |
21750s | [Music] |
21751s | can he get there if if with triple spell |
21753s | damage |
21755s | still can get there were triple spell |
21756s | damage |
21763s | that's still 40. |
21768s | yeah triple spell damage is 16 per on |
21771s | the fell barrages so that's 32 just from |
21773s | the fell barrages and then you know you |
21775s | have enough damage in and around that no |
21776s | problem |
21777s | yeah |
21778s | double spell damage is still 24 so if |
21780s | you then have big Furies you can still |
21782s | get to 40 quite comfortably even just |
21784s | with double spell damage in some |
21786s | situations oh yeah but there are no |
21788s | theories left |
21791s | there's one on these fell one chaos |
21793s | strike |
21804s | not too quickly and also where are we on |
21808s | extinctions because extinctions become |
21810s | very relevant in this situation as well |
21812s | because you need addiction left too yeah |
21813s | there's one Extinction left yeah so that |
21816s | is very often important to uh you know |
21819s | remove that last seven seven eight eight |
21821s | size minion that they have on the board |
21822s | that you're not going to get with your |
21823s | AOE |
21826s | hold the whirlpool to get rid of the |
21828s | play spur on the other side and then |
21829s | turn one okay |
21832s | and he does hit the spell damage |
21838s | yeah it's real small from Bonnie bunny |
21840s | choosing basically to sacrifice all |
21842s | semblance of pressure just to get |
21844s | maximum odds of hitting a second |
21846s | relevant minion with the plague spreader |
21854s | real smart |
21860s | Within Me |
21863s | if this hits Ark |
21868s | five 24 from fell barrages |
21872s | okay and then you rip the Relic for |
21875s | three more cards that's lethal right |
21877s | that's the rest of the deck fell barrage |
21880s | Unleashed and you now get the zero Manor |
21882s | Guild Traders he's done it the madman |
21884s | has actually found a way |
21888s | oh that is 16 more damage coming through |
21891s | and that means we are going to the |
21894s | priest mirror I want you gosh I told you |
21899s | you cannot count this deck out Jace is a |
21902s | garnish in this deck it is Surplus to |
21905s | requirements and you Yi manages to find |
21909s | the line even though the disaster was |
21912s | looking like it was about to occur lost |
21914s | Jace and a spell damage minion to those |
21917s | plague spreaders still found a way to |
21919s | get over the line that was beautiful |
21922s | from UE |
21928s | makes you think like that last term from |
21930s | bunny Hopper if he had |
21933s | um one more Mana he could have gone like |
21935s | amulet light bomb and then you get two |
21937s | plague spreader targets but then this |
21938s | plug spreader still on the other side no |
21940s | I agree with that I think the whirlpool |
21941s | is smart and then just hope that they |
21943s | don't have the damage |
21945s | um |
21947s | but that's tough because bunny Hopper |
21949s | also like you said didn't have the |
21950s | information uh of like what was |
21954s | discounted what was in the hand up until |
21956s | that point he knew there was just this |
21957s | mishmash of spells and if you know what |
21959s | the guild Traders were free in the deck |
21961s | and that there were some dimensions |
21963s | but I don't think there's any other play |
21964s | that he can make in that situation to |
21965s | one maximize the odds that a spell |
21967s | damage meaning gets hit by the plague |
21968s | spreader yep and then two try and get |
21971s | two plague spreaders in the mix I don't |
21974s | think there was a way to |
21975s | resurrect the second plague spreader |
21978s | uh from the amulet that was in hand and |
21980s | kill off both I don't think there was a |
21982s | way yeah so if you want to be super |
21984s | results oriented and really dig into the |
21986s | minutia of the end of that game which |
21988s | you know since the game ended how it did |
21990s | I suppose we probably should at least |
21992s | the second one maybe not the first |
21994s | um Bonnie as I said at the time Bunny's |
21996s | giving up his own pressure right like |
21998s | that's the other part of that situation |
22000s | and Bunny feels fine to do that because |
22002s | of the size of the board he had he's |
22004s | saying okay if I'm gonna die this turn |
22005s | is going to be to double or triple spell |
22007s | damage in which case the unleash fell |
22010s | would clear up my entire board anyway |
22011s | therefore my board isn't relevant |
22014s | however what it did allow was for the |
22017s | mark to go face as the initial cycle in |
22020s | the turn which it wouldn't do otherwise |
22022s | if there were actually Minions on the |
22024s | board which could have ended up being |
22026s | the difference in terms of sequencing uh |
22028s | between the breakpoint that killed bunny |
22030s | there or not so there are so many things |
22032s | to consider on that final turn and as |
22034s | you kept saying during your explanation |
22036s | bunny doesn't necessarily understand |
22039s | exactly what's going on right so it's |
22041s | almost impossible to solve that |
22043s | completely without the perfect |
22045s | information that your opponent has so |
22047s | absolute Heartbreaker bunny uh four |
22051s | Bunny and an absolutely triumphant |
22053s | moment for yui and now it means that we |
22056s | are going to square off what might now |
22059s | go down in history as an all-time great |
22061s | world championship series TJ with a |
22064s | priest mirror |
22066s | foreign |
22068s | holy moly |
22071s | I don't even know if I'm ready for this |
22072s | like I'm I'm like stressed |
22078s | that was you he left |
22084s | he has left at every available point he |
22087s | had left before the start of the series |
22088s | he left and popped off when he won his |
22092s | camera's disconnecting all the time he |
22094s | leaves before the Mulligan |
22097s | we're all on New Year's time right now |
22100s | okay so let's try and dig a little bit |
22104s | into this batch up uh |
22106s | those uh sisters fall net in the opening |
22109s | hand for bunny Hopper that's big |
22112s | um drown massive card |
22115s | um |
22116s | not because of fatigue right the mat |
22119s | it's the it feels like the matchup |
22121s | doesn't really come down to fatigue in a |
22124s | sense obviously if you're just drawing |
22125s | cards willy-nilly and you're like eight |
22127s | cards ahead of your opponent then yes |
22128s | fatigue can matter a drown just to deny |
22131s | the ability to like have stuff stick |
22134s | around and stay there for a long time |
22136s | talk about Mida uh talking about |
22139s | um any Undead really that can be brought |
22141s | back by bone collar |
22143s | uh and also plague spreaders at crucial |
22146s | moments right like if there's a plague |
22148s | spreader on the board that's incredibly |
22150s | disruptive to you then drown is a way to |
22152s | deal with it that doesn't proc the death |
22153s | row yeah |
22158s | but spawner is the big one |
22160s | um hand size does become an issue you |
22163s | need to find ways to dump cards when you |
22165s | can but that Visions can get you call of |
22168s | the Grave which is incredible value in a |
22171s | lot of situations it can get you void |
22173s | Shard which can just be a card to dump |
22176s | to give you a little bit of Health drown |
22179s | uh amulets to be able to keep cycling |
22181s | those in deck Thrive if you absolutely |
22184s | need to find a card in your deck at this |
22186s | very moment |
22192s | Shadow word undeath if your opponent's |
22195s | at four health and |
22197s | you had an undead die after your last |
22200s | turn yep |
22210s | yes please we'll take extra drowns well |
22213s | actually a first round for bunny because |
22215s | I believe uh UE plays one natural copy |
22218s | and Bunny plays zero as it stands in the |
22220s | deck |
22221s | so this evens the drown count |
22224s | and uh the more you can trade your |
22226s | ambulance the better because at a |
22228s | certain point like whoa |
22231s | it's gonna be like light bomb amulet |
22234s | your turn I bomb amulet |
22237s | your turn warpool |
22244s | weird |
22246s | edit and then it |
22248s | popped up right there on the screen yep |
22252s | didn't work for The Relic Dimensions |
22254s | last game we worked for the whirlpool |
22257s | this is weird that's not where the |
22259s | spectate thing usually is no |
22262s | tidy behind the thing |
22266s | what |
22278s | maybe I'm crazy |
22280s | you're not crazy it's been like that for |
22282s | like six years I just never noticed |
22284s | until now |
22285s | it's in a priest mirror mode and I'm |
22287s | just looking for literally every little |
22289s | tiny detail that's happening in the game |
22291s | well |
22299s | And So It Begins |
22306s | or does it with your extensive |
22308s | experience TJ I believe uh in the |
22311s | casting plague priest mirrors you are uh |
22314s | significantly ahead of me with a one to |
22316s | zero Advantage yep how much of an impact |
22320s | did plague spreader actually have on |
22322s | that mirror |
22323s | and |
22326s | uh it's impossible to say okay |
22330s | uh honestly like I was pretty focused |
22334s | for that whole game and thought I had a |
22336s | good handle on it and I was commending |
22339s | like dead trough for how well he was |
22340s | playing the entire game and how his |
22344s | understanding of the matchup was correct |
22346s | and he lost |
22348s | [Laughter] |
22351s | he's like he's a head he's a head he's |
22353s | ahead fatigue doesn't matter he's |
22354s | playing for Tempo he's got these huge |
22356s | amulets and then his board's clear his |
22359s | opponent's board is huge he's dead |
22361s | hmm okay like |
22364s | like there there's so every decision has |
22367s | a million Ripple effects yeah of course |
22370s | because of everything that happens in |
22372s | between uh like you what you pick from |
22376s | Call of the Grave because of your |
22377s | amulets what you pick from visions of |
22379s | Darkness because |
22380s | of you're gonna recast a lot of things |
22383s | things are going to be re-summoned by |
22385s | bone collars yeah |
22388s | um like what's being drowned how many |
22390s | Midas are in your deck versus your |
22392s | opponents |
22398s | like they do have a big impact but |
22400s | there's so many minions in either |
22402s | player's deck that don't really matter |
22404s | like the natural minions in the deck |
22407s | don't matter because they have so many |
22408s | ways of just finding that minion but uh |
22412s | in another way so they mattered in the |
22414s | sense that there was a lot of plague |
22415s | spreaders played and |
22417s | they dealt damage and they made board |
22420s | States but it didn't matter so much in |
22423s | the sense of wow it hit something huge |
22426s | you know like it's the plague spread on |
22428s | something huge so on a scale of their |
22431s | total Bay don't worry about them at all |
22433s | to they're the only thing that matters |
22435s | in this hour-long match-up it's |
22437s | somewhere in the middle is what you're |
22439s | saying somewhere in the middle yes yeah |
22440s | okay |
22441s | like I'd say the the its board presence |
22444s | mattered more than its effect |
22446s | yeah okay that makes sense yeah |
22450s | oh uh drowning this fall now is |
22454s | interesting for a couple reasons |
22457s | one |
22458s | you never really want to play two's |
22460s | fullness |
22462s | but two |
22464s | it denies your opponent's Fallen as an |
22467s | undead |
22468s | which means that it won't be brought |
22471s | back by bone collar which significantly |
22473s | reduces their ability to build boards |
22476s | later on in the game |
22482s | welcome I guess you can play toothless |
22486s | yeah I was gonna because I'm not |
22488s | entirely sure why you obviously it's |
22490s | drowned right so possibly by the point |
22493s | you get to it it's not gonna be super |
22495s | relevant |
22497s | um but still I don't think at that point |
22498s | in the game you're particularly worried |
22500s | about having the two Shadow spells in |
22502s | the hand plus |
22503s | you do have Finley in your deck right so |
22505s | now if you draw thinly in the next |
22507s | couple of cards you know that you can |
22509s | start rolling with the uh the Savannah |
22511s | on the other side as well |
22512s | now that you want to drown |
22516s | oh yeah |
22518s | just take that big giant holy Rock and |
22521s | put it at the bottom of the ocean |
22527s | which is also your deck |
22529s | never really understood that |
22540s | he's |
22541s | livid are you gonna understand why right |
22544s | you you coming into this matchup like |
22546s | okay it's a small Advantage but I've put |
22549s | a natural copy of drown in my deck for |
22551s | this exact eventuality good deck |
22554s | building me well done Pat myself on the |
22556s | back and then at the very first a |
22558s | possible opportunity your opponents |
22559s | discovered a copy of it and entirely |
22562s | neutralize that Advantage yeah yeah it's |
22566s | uh that's brutal I feel like this almost |
22568s | this whole series it's been like you you |
22570s | like back against the wall |
22575s | like every nothing going his way and |
22578s | just like fighting his way out of it |
22582s | can't catch a break |
22589s | listen I love bunny |
22591s | I love Europe as a region but I think |
22595s | you know with the China players have on |
22597s | their mind right now and the performance |
22599s | that you you put in in that previous |
22601s | game to find the lethal out after being |
22603s | so heavily disrupted by the priest |
22605s | I'm kind of rooting for you here |
22609s | like the Drake fire eminent was the last |
22612s | straw yeah |
22619s | also maybe not so much for you but for |
22623s | me |
22625s | I don't really want to see the last |
22627s | Chinese player eliminated just yet like |
22629s | after the first semi-final already |
22631s | knowing that the world champion is going |
22633s | to be European I don't know yeah handle |
22635s | that true it is definitely better for |
22636s | tension |
22639s | your smudginess will be undeniable |
22644s | yeah |
22645s | all the grave one of the better ones |
22651s | in fact I might go as far to say as |
22654s | the best at least tied with drowned for |
22657s | the best how many Shadow spells all that |
22659s | TJ did you do this count last time do I |
22661s | have to do it now 16 16 I knew I could |
22664s | rely on you |
22671s | and then I asked Neil what are the odds |
22673s | of hitting something he said 3 and 16. |
22676s | correct |
22678s | and then I got confused and was like |
22680s | that can't be right that is right Neil |
22682s | was like I think it's right because I |
22685s | second guessed it then Neil proceeded |
22687s | imagine having the 16 cards face down in |
22690s | front of you on a desk and you get to |
22691s | turn over three of them that should make |
22693s | it very obvious that it's 3 and 16. yeah |
22697s | but I feel like there's some some level |
22698s | of Statistics in how I make my choices |
22701s | you know yeah yeah |
22708s | like Voodoo statistics you know |
22713s | Donald you're making the assumption that |
22716s | blizzard has coded it so that every |
22717s | spell is the same odds |
22720s | of being discovered |
22721s | true yeah |
22723s | oh is that it was for sure learn to say |
22725s | that's exactly what they said okay I |
22728s | mean yes that is just the best way to |
22730s | explain it to people so I'm not |
22731s | surprised |
22737s | the interesting part about Lorinda mats |
22739s | is when he gets there through actual |
22741s | Voodoo that you know as someone who's |
22743s | actually studied maths I've never heard |
22745s | of in my life and then he explains how |
22748s | he's done the calculation and it's just |
22749s | the most fake maths I've ever heard in |
22752s | my life but it is the right answer those |
22754s | are the ones that absolutely blow my |
22756s | mind |
22758s | so here's how I think of it right |
22761s | okay do you know what skee ball is right |
22763s | yeah |
22765s | um so ski uh imagine you're playing skee |
22768s | ball there's 16 holes on the Skee-Ball |
22771s | course and you have three balls |
22776s | what's the likelihood |
22778s | that you get one of those balls in the |
22781s | very specific ski ball hole that you |
22783s | need |
22786s | sorry how you doing 16. what was the |
22788s | start of this again I got distracted by |
22790s | Lorinda |
22793s | so you're playing Skee-Ball yes there's |
22796s | 16 holes on the skee ball Circle yes and |
22799s | you have three balls with three throws |
22802s | what are the likelihood with those three |
22803s | holes that you get I see all into one |
22806s | specific hole well I don't know because |
22808s | I don't know how good you are at Skibo |
22810s | yeah |
22813s | [Laughter] |
22819s | factors there's more variables you need |
22821s | to consider I don't think you can just |
22824s | miss the hole with one of your discovers |
22826s | though I'm not sure that's how it works |
22827s | and for the record I am very good at |
22829s | Skee-Ball I didn't say you won I said I |
22832s | didn't know how good you were |
22836s | the mere language used already assumes |
22839s | some level of goodness you know |
22841s | the fact that I know what Skee-Ball is |
22844s | yeah right |
22859s | okay so yui knows what that is because |
22862s | even if the death rattle can't proc it |
22864s | still shows you what the card is |
22871s | from Call of the grave |
22879s | car in place |
22895s | yeah this might just be a Finley just |
22897s | get me out play this fall now like yeah |
22900s | agreed |
22902s | every turn you don't you are just |
22904s | falling ever so slightly behind in value |
22907s | right |
22913s | oh |
22917s | yeah that's right you also Place natural |
22921s | calls calls of the Grave yep |
22927s | in place of some anti-aggro stuff like |
22931s | uh light Mall another drink |
22938s | I am now receiving multiple tweets |
22941s | appreciating my wrestling analogies by |
22943s | the way I'd just like you to know that |
22944s | meant to be treated |
22949s | we're a very on I have such cool Hobbies |
22951s | me oh yeah yeah being a pro wrestling |
22954s | fan is really cool TJ it's a thing that |
22956s | we're super proud of |
22965s | foreign |
22970s | everybody under the age of 12 is very |
22972s | proud that they're pretty |
22979s | I believe the most popular demographic |
22981s | in terms of TV viewership for wrestling |
22983s | is now over 60. |
22986s | really yeah |
22988s | it's dying It's like mid-30s because in |
22992s | the peak of pro wrestling was about when |
22995s | those people would be 12 right right |
23000s | foreign |
23004s | early 40s right late 30s early 40s |
23008s | because it was like early 90s where it |
23010s | started mid 90s |
23012s | you would know yeah late late 90s into |
23015s | early 2000s was the period yeah yeah |
23018s | like mid 30s then yeah or like |
23021s | Hulkamania period late 80s early 90s |
23023s | like that was Hulk Hogan era or like |
23026s | there's like rock Steve Austin era which |
23027s | is the late 90s whichever one you're |
23029s | referring to if that's your answer |
23031s | I'm just baiting you into revealing that |
23033s | you know way more about Progressive |
23036s | [Music] |
23037s | be talking to me about mainstream WWF |
23040s | slash WWE wrestling right now you don't |
23042s | want me to get me start talking about |
23043s | like weird tape trading Indie Feds that |
23046s | only nine people have ever seen from the |
23049s | the late 80s early 90s that's when I |
23052s | really get to play my nerd cards |
23055s | and don't even get me started on yo-yos |
23058s | [Laughter] |
23071s | what are these |
23074s | foreign |
23077s | yeah I mean it's the go-to option right |
23079s | yeah they're all utter garbage so at the |
23082s | very very least |
23083s | you might as well burn a card like see |
23085s | this is the Rippling effects though |
23087s | right you get the the short term you |
23090s | know dopamine Rush of burning your |
23093s | opponent's card but then you have the |
23095s | long-term ramifications of one you |
23097s | either have to hold this mailbox dancer |
23098s | in your hand for the rest of the game or |
23100s | two you got to play it it's gonna die |
23102s | and then it's gonna be resurrected by |
23104s | your ambulance yeah and you're gonna |
23106s | burn cards yeah true |
23109s | hmm |
23114s | we're looking for zyrella |
23117s | Ida |
23121s | and of course yeah why not yeah |
23132s | but he's like jokes on you now I got an |
23134s | extra coin in my hand |
23137s | just a dumpable card |
23143s | foreign |
23150s | yeah there's no way it's incriminating |
23151s | psychic right that can't be worth over |
23153s | just a five eight |
23156s | again not having a ton of experience in |
23158s | the matchup I have no real like |
23159s | intrinsic feel of how important Tempo |
23162s | versus value is in that kind of |
23164s | situation but you'd have a hard time |
23166s | convincing me that one random card was |
23169s | better than a five eight yeah also |
23171s | incriminating psychic you don't even get |
23173s | the incriminating psychic |
23176s | oh yeah true yeah yeah it would be full |
23178s | so you get the card from your opponent |
23180s | and then you the incrementing cycle |
23183s | would just be gone so yeah very fair |
23189s | bog Beast |
23195s | we're suddenly back to uh TJ's potty |
23197s | training as he said he was dropping a |
23199s | bog Beast before he came on to broadcast |
23205s | yep and inside my pogbase was a muck |
23207s | Mare |
23209s | with talk |
23228s | is this void Shard ship it like |
23233s | oh |
23234s | devour is a dumpable car you got to kind |
23236s | of find a mix between value and |
23239s | throwaways yep if you don't have enough |
23242s | value options just pick the throwaway |
23246s | and it's not this similar in pattern to |
23249s | the control piece mirrors we had a ton |
23251s | of a couple of years ago in uh Europe |
23252s | Grand Masters uh where early on players |
23256s | were getting outplayed by just picking |
23258s | too much value every single time of all |
23260s | the discovers and then just not being |
23262s | able to play any of their cards |
23264s | um whereas the better players were just |
23266s | picking smoother more you know Tempo |
23268s | effective things and just actually |
23270s | having space in hand to be able to do |
23272s | things for the whole game |
23284s | oh hmm |
23289s | contact hexen shadowward ruin |
23294s | why |
23298s | though the light show Elemental dies on |
23300s | your side of the board okay |
23304s | that seems like a lot of resources to |
23307s | use |
23308s | I would say on a one light shower swing |
23311s | but I suppose it's more than that light |
23314s | shower swing over the course of the |
23315s | whole game once all the resurrections |
23316s | are taken into account so |
23318s | I still think it seems a bit extra to me |
23321s | yeah nah just give him a buddy yeah |
23324s | that's right |
23326s | what happens if you |
23328s | I'm sure I'm sure I've seen this before |
23330s | if she's najick hexen the the najick |
23333s | hexen |
23336s | that still has a minion |
23339s | active that was stolen |
23341s | and then it's killed |
23343s | it still goes back to the original owner |
23345s | right yeah I think so okay |
23351s | I want to double check |
23354s | hey the drowns are appearing |
23358s | any Merit for ID theft over drown |
23362s | ah if you need two hand spaces for right |
23365s | identity theft yeah |
23368s | yeah and you'd probably just be looking |
23370s | for a drown anyway |
23375s | oh |
23381s | look if you can just go back and forth |
23382s | between drown like get pick up a drown |
23385s | pick up a devour pick up a call of the |
23387s | grade and just keep doing that over and |
23390s | over again yep that's that's Peak priest |
23393s | performance |
23395s | he just drowned his own Minion |
23401s | oh yeah |
23403s | why wouldn't he do it on the other one |
23405s | there are many light shower Elementals |
23408s | like it but that one's mine |
23411s | what's his yep |
23416s | uh |
23417s | theft accusation probably or I guess |
23420s | devouring plague but theft accusation |
23424s | um |
23428s | foreign |
23437s | it's still kind of good though right you |
23439s | now get like the burns there's a dumper |
23441s | ball here very easily turn the five six |
23444s | to a five five |
23448s | and you get to do this for free now |
23449s | because weird decisions were made on the |
23452s | previous turn |
23453s | yeah I'm trying to think if there's any |
23455s | benefit to doing it on your own like |
23458s | spite I don't know |
23461s | you want to get stolen from me |
23476s | what would be even weirder is if you |
23478s | drowned his own light shower Elemental |
23481s | last turn only to then |
23485s | Whirlpool it into Oblivion |
23491s | it does seem that the ruin is somewhat |
23495s | more appropriate here yeah |
23498s | oh yes the Devourer in the ruin that's |
23501s | uh |
23503s | oh no okay I don't understand I I |
23506s | genuinely do not understand |
23510s | he just destroyed three cards in his own |
23512s | deck yep |
23518s | and he opened up a hand space for bunny |
23520s | Hopper with the Finley |
23523s | that he was never gonna play because he |
23525s | had Vision to Darkness in him from this |
23526s | fall now |
23527s | [Music] |
23529s | oh shatter skin gargoyle |
23535s | got that card quite a few times in Arena |
23541s | wait as I'm sure you have too saddle |
23544s | what happens with yes this thank you |
23547s | okay good yeah that's the question I was |
23549s | gonna ask I've never seen that |
23549s | interaction but if you proc the death |
23551s | rattle and then read the text well it |
23553s | hasn't been honorable honorably killed |
23555s | so you've resumed it right and yeah |
23557s | that's exactly what happens it's good |
23558s | good |
23560s | I'm pleased |
23565s | now let's discuss |
23569s | and |
23573s | at least say the word permanently on it |
23575s | does it what's the exact word what's the |
23577s | exact wording on the card I know it is |
23580s | written for flavor and not for technical |
23581s | accuracy and it is confusing but what is |
23584s | the exact word |
23587s | uh sister's phone now it's on svalner |
23590s | but not on the spell itself right yeah |
23592s | that makes sense okay I'm with you uh I |
23595s | mean it's sort of on on the spell itself |
23597s | it says this stays in your hand yes yeah |
23600s | but it doesn't actually have the word |
23601s | permanently on it but the minion does |
23603s | yes Battle Cry permanently and it's even |
23607s | in italics yes that's that's how you |
23609s | know they mean it but what it's actually |
23611s | doing in a technical sense is discover a |
23614s | shadow spell add another copy of this to |
23616s | your hand that's what it's actually |
23617s | doing yes so if it gets counter spelled |
23620s | for example you lose it forever and it |
23623s | can still get theatered blah blah blah |
23625s | everything that that means so yeah if |
23627s | you Shuffle It Away with Finley go to |
23628s | the bottom of your deck yep yada yada |
23631s | yep |
23638s | oh yeah |
23640s | how many how many board spaces would you |
23643s | like to use on plus two plus one |
23649s | um by the way I don't know if you've |
23650s | noticed I waited for a while to comment |
23652s | on this okay uh but bunny has been |
23654s | playing symmetry games for quite some |
23657s | time I think to just keep himself amused |
23659s | in this game |
23662s | he's been making his board as |
23663s | symmetrical as possible for quite some |
23666s | time |
23674s | Oh Derek saying the ordering goes adds |
23676s | it to your hand first then discovers a |
23678s | spell which I'm willing to believe |
23688s | [Laughter] |
23694s | oh that even existed |
23698s | all right well got a a Mida from the |
23701s | identity theft I actually got just two |
23704s | big Whomping Minions on the identity |
23709s | theft |
23712s | it's coming back though it's coming back |
23738s | drown the guitar |
23745s | ooh devouring plague |
23747s | four drowns you know what I mean see |
23751s | what I mean I'm not making this up |
23756s | not relevant |
23758s | right |
23759s | there's no positioning that matters I |
23761s | don't think so |
23763s | maybe there's a death rattle in the game |
23765s | where positioning matters |
23768s | I don't think so let me look |
23771s | I'll take up a good three minutes |
23775s | we gotta keep ourselves entertained as |
23777s | well that's right |
23783s | not enough death rattles yet for zyrella |
23789s | yeah I think as much as possible you do |
23792s | still want zarella to be like that super |
23793s | late game nuke when it comes down to it |
23805s | uh hoping ue's good here because I |
23808s | believe his camera is frozen and this |
23810s | has not just been you know mousing |
23812s | around and looking at things this has |
23813s | looked like total in action on the other |
23815s | side no okay we're good we're good yeah |
23819s | finally finally the silence coming down |
23823s | yeah just thinking |
23826s | Shadow word ruin now to uh deal with one |
23828s | finally |
23831s | I suppose they are both dealt with to |
23833s | the extent that the Silence has been |
23835s | used |
23856s | I mean opponent's at 27. you want to |
23858s | just start getting them |
23860s | it's also Undead |
23864s | so like |
23866s | if you guys |
23870s | you rip the vision and then you get the |
23872s | thing that's like whenever you play an |
23874s | undead give it reborn you know yep yep |
23877s | I don't know I I don't want cards for my |
23880s | opponent's hand to be quite honest with |
23882s | you I want dimash |
23888s | that's our line of thinking having |
23890s | stayed in this match for such a long |
23891s | time but Bunny's like playing the long |
23894s | game |
23894s | yeah we are very quickly going through |
23897s | the uh the seven stages of priest |
23899s | mirrors which is |
23901s | um very different to the seven stages of |
23903s | grief it like it starts with engagement |
23904s | and then goes through distraction memes |
23908s | boredom and then just smoking we've |
23910s | reached that point in proceedings where |
23912s | you just want them to go face with |
23913s | everything yeah |
23916s | we got there pretty quick yeah we did 10 |
23918s | cards left in the deck yeah pretty good |
23920s | actually yikes |
23924s | I've done my due diligence and have |
23926s | concluded that there are no death rattle |
23928s | means in the game where positioning |
23929s | matters okay |
23931s | uh there is though the existence of bone |
23935s | Lord Frost whisper |
23938s | for the rest of the game your first card |
23940s | each turn costs zero you die in three |
23942s | turns yes |
23946s | not relevant at all to the situation |
23947s | unless I'm just gonna say why why are we |
23950s | talking about that |
23952s | apart from you also being a massive bone |
23954s | Lord and you're just wanting to you know |
23956s | show support |
23959s | hey that's bone Lord Frost whisper to |
23962s | you |
23964s | on bone Lord Neil whisper |
23967s | ER |
23982s | the Mind eaters kinda awkward |
23985s | yeah I thought that way too |
23988s | it just seems like hand size concerns |
23990s | that you don't really need to deal with |
23992s | in this situation yeah the shadowy |
23995s | shadowed Spirit what's it called |
23998s | shadowed Spirit yeah |
24001s | seemed just like way better like just |
24003s | the pressure that it provides yeah |
24008s | [Music] |
24019s | oh yeah ship it yeah that might either |
24023s | dies buddy Hopper overdose a card |
24033s | there's a Mida left in the deck |
24040s | inside rella |
24043s | and zarella |
24045s | dirella I think would be the biggest |
24047s | deal |
24048s | uh one midday you can probably get away |
24051s | with because you know it alliterate |
24053s | multiple times with drowns and |
24055s | resurrections and whatever else |
24071s | foreign |
24075s | Box Dancer just still exists |
24081s | not too quickly |
24091s | if it kills the Mind era that's a pretty |
24093s | big deal because otherwise there was no |
24094s | way to kill it outside I guess could |
24096s | have just cleaned the scene oh nope they |
24098s | all went into the one okay so gonna lie |
24100s | to Burns it yeah just dumping cars we |
24102s | could it's just again a little bit |
24104s | confused by what the goal was there |
24106s | because now you've now given your |
24109s | opponent a copy of a card in your hand |
24112s | as opposed to a coin right by silencing |
24116s | your own thing is that better the cop |
24119s | doesn't seem better |
24120s | card in the deck oh all the way around |
24123s | sorry yeah yeah okay |
24128s | oh four friendly minions |
24131s | let me play that plague spreader |
24134s | wow that's a nice Suite of minions it is |
24138s | God so many drowns |
24142s | just use one right like just put a |
24145s | mailbox there that's what a freaking |
24146s | mailbox dancery yeah yeah yeah yeah |
24149s | every time |
24151s | get me out |
24158s | this is what people want TJ look at all |
24161s | these minions interacting with each |
24165s | other |
24169s | yetis |
24181s | yeah Derek raising the point like I you |
24183s | know I was phrasing it as a question |
24185s | like giving them the coin isn't |
24187s | necessarily worse than giving them the |
24188s | card because as we've spent a great deal |
24191s | of time talking about making room in |
24194s | your hand is the biggest problem that |
24196s | either player has in this matchup right |
24198s | now yeah so coin is a tool that you can |
24200s | use to make space as I don't even |
24203s | necessarily think that is the wrong |
24204s | decision |
24206s | oh he's gonna play the minor you use |
24209s | super low Health 18 Health yep |
24213s | shadowed Spirit would come in quite |
24215s | handy here yes I'm Gonna Keep harping on |
24218s | it |
24220s | this is six |
24222s | 11 damage like that's well to be fair |
24226s | the whole reason all this stuff is on |
24229s | board is the copied amulet that came |
24231s | from the thing that he took instead of |
24233s | the the spirit so and now this is |
24236s | getting drowned as well yeah certainly |
24243s | like 11 |
24247s | it's there's a void Shard lethal that |
24250s | can't be right |
24252s | 5 9 10 11 13 15 19. uh no I think you're |
24257s | right |
24260s | you'd need a hand space first however |
24262s | which you cannot do while retaining |
24264s | enough Mana to play a point shot though |
24268s | so unlucky |
24286s | not too quickly well you you're at seven |
24291s | I hate to break the news to you but |
24292s | that's where we are in this game |
24298s | and you're gonna have to clear up this |
24300s | board that has |
24301s | multiple layers |
24305s | I mean Shard cleaned the scene |
24309s | I guess the cleanest scene is not |
24311s | infused right |
24315s | Shard cleaned the seed renithal Whispers |
24319s | bow |
24321s | okay |
24331s | or trade the four death rattle amulet |
24343s | wow |
24348s | what are you looking for |
24357s | Wow |
24359s | just leaving the 4-4 up |
24362s | uh |
24364s | yeah he's |
24366s | shadowed Spirit lethal |
24369s | no later he just has the third Cathedral |
24371s | Cathedral there it is |
24376s | 8 10. |
24378s | and Bonnie you absolute coward that's |
24381s | the most unsymmetrical you could have |
24383s | made that board on the final turn |
24386s | come on now |
24388s | but on a more serious stuff bunny gets |
24392s | there after |
24393s | an absolute marathon of a series in |
24397s | every regard we lost you ye at the start |
24400s | of it it took us half an hour to even |
24401s | get into the series then we had the Mage |
24404s | versus priest roller coaster to kick |
24406s | things off then that ridiculous upset of |
24410s | the game with the you know double play |
24412s | spreader hitting spell damage and Jace |
24414s | against control priest and then UE still |
24416s | putting together the lethal and then |
24418s | finally this absolute epic to end off on |
24422s | and honestly like I am not gonna claim |
24424s | to be an authority on this meta's |
24427s | control priest mirrors I will claim to |
24428s | be an authority on many things but this |
24430s | is not one of them but to me from my |
24434s | lofty perch it seemed like UE was a bit |
24437s | lost during that game at various points |
24440s | like yes it's obviously a lot down to |
24443s | various generations and how difficult |
24445s | your hand is to use but it certainly |
24447s | felt like bunny had a clearer purpose |
24449s | and understanding about what he was |
24451s | doing throughout the game yeah and |
24452s | whereas is almost just reacting and it |
24455s | did kind of feel like bunny was always |
24457s | in control of things from where I was at |
24460s | yeah and like the couple of just kind of |
24463s | questionable things of like you know the |
24465s | drown on his own like chair Elemental |
24468s | the whirlpool seemed a little bit weird |
24470s | because those like child Elementals |
24471s | could have come in handy later on when |
24473s | he had a nice uh clean clear with a |
24475s | Shadowood ruin at the very same time |
24479s | um it did just seem like bunny had came |
24483s | in with a game plan just ultimate value |
24485s | stick to Tempo even if that means |
24488s | discarding cards right over drawing |
24491s | cards uh just keep pressure on the board |
24493s | at all times make it really awkward for |
24495s | my opponent that's exactly what he did |
24496s | so I mean that does mean subtle we are |
24499s | guaranteed |
24500s | European world champion breaking the |
24502s | breaking the curse |
24505s | oh so didn't think I'd be ready for it |
24508s | but I'm ready for it I'm ready for it |
24510s | yeah I'm ready for it I'm ready yeah we |
24512s | I mean we already did the job of |
24514s | knocking aipac off their perch that |
24515s | they've been uh sat on for the last |
24517s | couple of years so it really seemed |
24519s | inevitable from this point forward but I |
24521s | will watch with uh great anticipation as |
24523s | we do the second semi-final because I |
24526s | think these may be two of the best |
24528s | performing players in the tournament so |
24529s | far |
24531s | um one sketchy Miss lethal on one side |
24533s | but overall just two incredibly solid |
24535s | players and I think you know bunny is |
24537s | the only other person left in that list |
24539s | which sets us up weirdly for a |
24541s | Hearthstone tournament for a game to |
24544s | decide or a match to decide the title |
24546s | between the two players that have played |
24549s | the best in the tournament potentially |
24550s | that's not supposed to happen but it |
24553s | might be where we are |
24555s | yep that's where we are but we still |
24557s | have uh a ways to get there not a way is |
24560s | this literally one match before we get |
24561s | to the finals But like after this match |
24564s | I'm like it's a ways away |
24566s | uh but that was a long one so I don't |
24567s | know at least three hours yeah nearly |
24569s | three hours we were sat here with it |
24571s | with the break so uh we're gonna go take |
24574s | our uh much dessert Break |
24577s | um and when we come back we are going to |
24578s | get into that second semifinal see who's |
24580s | gonna join bunny hopper in the |
24582s | Hearthstone World Championship final so |
24584s | don't go anywhere |
24589s | [Music] |
24606s | [Music] |
24617s | [Music] |
24623s | [Music] |
24638s | thank you |
24641s | haha |
24661s | you will soon |
24664s | [Music] |
24670s | Christ |
24672s | and serve your king |
24678s | your storm is mine |
24691s | [Music] |
24698s | thank you |
24699s | [Music] |
24703s | [Applause] |
24705s | [Music] |
24713s | foreign |
24716s | [Music] |
24733s | [Music] |
24744s | foreign |
24749s | [Music] |
24784s | welcome back everybody after that |
24787s | marathon of a first semi-final we have a |
24790s | second semi-final because that's how |
24791s | semi-finals work and Derek is going to |
24794s | be a great one is it going to be Levick |
24796s | the the newcomer I'm going to call him |
24798s | although we all know he's been around |
24799s | for some time or will it be Team Liquid |
24802s | who have done so well in the league of |
24804s | hearthstone in China and have a chance |
24806s | of having an all liquid final |
24808s | yeah I know that would just be so sick |
24810s | wouldn't it like it |
24814s | doesn't say with everything we're going |
24815s | to be saying is that it feels like out |
24817s | of the three players left in the |
24819s | tournament funny and dead draw through |
24821s | sweat tears have earned this spot it |
24825s | feels like they deserve this the title |
24827s | of world champion because we know them |
24829s | so well we've been right behind them for |
24831s | their journey in competitive HearthStone |
24832s | for so long so I would say based on |
24836s | everything we've seen dead draw has to |
24838s | be the favorite in the second semi-final |
24840s | match just based on tournament pedigree |
24843s | however Levick has just been |
24846s | consistently surprising me consistently |
24848s | playing at the absolute top level he's |
24851s | one of those players that you know is |
24852s | good but because he's not so much part |
24854s | of The Narrative of top players in the |
24856s | world right now he doesn't get the same |
24858s | praise necessarily as a lot of the other |
24860s | top players would like buddy and dead or |
24862s | both of whom are very real Arguments for |
24864s | best player in the world right now but |
24866s | his play throughout the entire weekend |
24867s | has been absolutely impeccable and so |
24870s | Levick were he to go the entire distance |
24872s | I don't think anyone would be |
24874s | complaining about the quality of said |
24876s | world champion yeah he also has a lot of |
24879s | fans in the chat which is always nice to |
24881s | see and he's also like he's one of those |
24884s | players who he hasn't done great in |
24885s | Masters tours until this year |
24887s | particularly but he's won a lot of other |
24889s | things that have been put in front of |
24891s | him sort of the the local whatever it is |
24894s | cup for you know surrounding |
24896s | neighborhood countries for 500 he's won |
24899s | infinite number of those things over the |
24901s | years |
24902s | um so just because we haven't seen him |
24903s | playing competitive Hearthstone at the |
24905s | highest level he's been destroying it at |
24907s | sort of tier two tier three levels for a |
24909s | long time because he hasn't had the |
24911s | chance to play the tier one stuff so |
24913s | much but this year open system he's gone |
24915s | all the way through it and here he is |
24917s | one match away from reaching the finals |
24921s | indeed his opponent just being dead draw |
24923s | who I think really does uh exemplify the |
24927s | the journey that we've gone through |
24930s | competitive Hearthstone over the last |
24931s | few years with the obvious switch to |
24933s | Grand Masters there were some very |
24935s | legitimate complaints about the fact |
24937s | that it was difficult for the top |
24939s | performing players in Masters tours to |
24941s | qualify up through two grand Masters and |
24944s | Dedra was truly the poster child of that |
24946s | uh complaint that people had because he |
24948s | was he's won the third most number of |
24952s | Masters absolutely games out of anyone |
24954s | and he missed one right up there at the |
24956s | top of win rate yeah sure there you go |
24958s | and he's still yeah right up there at |
24959s | the top uh and he's like right up |
24962s | towards the top of win rate second most |
24964s | top 16s or top eights when we used to do |
24967s | that in Masters tours as well like it |
24969s | his accolades just speak for themselves |
24971s | but finally with the changes the subtle |
24973s | changes that we've been making obviously |
24975s | now Grandmasters phased out anyway uh |
24977s | but I think it does show that the the |
24979s | system is fostering this type of talent |
24982s | and we are left in a situation where |
24984s | we're getting back-to-back world's |
24985s | appearances from lots of players |
24987s | possessing a couple games away from |
24989s | being back-to-back world champion Bonnie |
24991s | Hopper and Deirdre making it through to |
24993s | the semi-finals and Levick as well you |
24995s | know he's the type of player a few years |
24997s | ago would have really struggled to make |
25000s | it through to the world championships |
25001s | and now with his dominant results on |
25003s | ladder Translating that into tournament |
25005s | victories as well we are seeing this uh |
25009s | New Breed come through and uh we are all |
25013s | the happier for it as jumping into the |
25015s | decks here we do have two of the |
25019s | common archetypes between our two |
25021s | players with both players having jackpot |
25024s | Rogue well both players actually having |
25025s | identical classes across the board it's |
25027s | worth saying it's just the archetypes |
25030s | where they differ control priest for |
25032s | dead draw Boone priest for Levick and |
25035s | straight up ping Mage for Levick whereas |
25037s | it's a slightly more controlling package |
25039s | for dead draw but the jackpot Rogue and |
25041s | the Demon Hunter that's where they |
25042s | completely overlap in terms of |
25044s | archetypes yeah and because of those |
25046s | sort of small well fairly large |
25047s | differences it means that the bands |
25049s | ended up being different and sort of |
25051s | broke the mirror in the classes with |
25053s | Levick Banning the priest and with dead |
25057s | draw Banning the Mage so does shake it |
25060s | up a little bit and I I personally think |
25062s | it will come down to whether Levitt can |
25064s | get his um his blessed pieces Moon |
25066s | priest out of here I think that's going |
25068s | to be the key thing in this one |
25070s | obviously if he can't he will lose uh |
25073s | but I think that's the one where he |
25074s | hasn't got very good matchups unless he |
25076s | runs it into the Demon Hunter and the |
25077s | Demon Hunter might be gone after this |
25079s | game so this Boon piece might have some |
25082s | work to do so very very important game |
25085s | number one for Levick I think absolutely |
25087s | needs to keep this Demon Hunter in play |
25089s | so that his priest has a chance to bump |
25090s | into it |
25092s | let's see whether he can do so both |
25094s | players with a spicy two Mana card to |
25096s | kick off the semi-finals the jackpot for |
25099s | Levick who knows what's hidden behind |
25101s | those curtains but it obviously has the |
25103s | potential to be a game-winning card in |
25106s | its own right whereas for dead draw |
25108s | needs a little bit more help certainly |
25110s | from a relic of Dimensions to really |
25113s | make this hand pop but even with just |
25115s | like Relic Vault and phantasms that's a |
25119s | reasonable starting board here no |
25121s | absolutely |
25123s | um |
25124s | first of all the phantasms just provide |
25126s | a distraction they slow the Rogue down |
25128s | but also they can just do enough damage |
25130s | sometimes to make things so much easier |
25132s | for you plus you don't mind popping the |
25135s | Vault on three anyway for the first pop |
25137s | because then when you get to Dimensions |
25139s | later |
25140s | um it's got that double buff going into |
25143s | it and the Vault has regenerated or |
25145s | whatever the phase is uncool down if I'd |
25148s | and so you get the they get the super |
25151s | Dimensions as well so everything here |
25153s | far better than it looks for dead draw |
25157s | again we're seeing a really nice |
25159s | demonstration from Levick of the power |
25161s | of sketchy stranger because the obvious |
25164s | curve with this hand was absolutely |
25166s | jackpot onto trickster on four you can |
25169s | argue about stranger or perjury uh on |
25171s | turn three in between uh but there's so |
25174s | many strong cards here right so many |
25176s | strong secrets that we keep talking |
25177s | about explosive runes objection counter |
25180s | spell ice trap uh |
25183s | Reckoning as well like can be okay but |
25185s | like the main things are just those |
25186s | Hunter and Mage spells uh that are so so |
25188s | uh |
25189s | brutal against Demon Hunter and even |
25192s | though it means he's going to be popping |
25193s | off with the trickster earliest on turn |
25195s | five now I do still like this play |
25198s | because of how good these secrets often |
25200s | are yeah just because you can do |
25202s | something really really busted on turn |
25204s | four doesn't mean you actually have to |
25206s | do that right it's still it's still |
25207s | pretty buses on turn five and you're in |
25209s | the game better so absolutely agreeing |
25212s | with you here Derek that's just delaying |
25214s | it a little bit it's going to make a big |
25215s | difference |
25216s | oh it's so irritating to play around |
25219s | these under pressure as well |
25222s | um very much so he has a little bit of |
25224s | information however and because this |
25226s | perjury is still |
25228s | perjury it's not uh in uh the form of |
25231s | another secret quite yet dead draw knows |
25233s | it's not counter spell I think that's |
25235s | all he's rooted out so far so he is |
25239s | obviously going to be most afraid of |
25241s | objection or runes and objections |
25247s | yeah |
25249s | okay he knows it's not barrier or Visage |
25253s | now either |
25255s | like the obvious way to play this turn |
25258s | to me is not to go Mark of scorn is to |
25260s | play the extinction coin spectral site |
25262s | and then you get follow-up at the end |
25264s | with Mark of scorn |
25266s | um |
25268s | yeah I think it's settling on that in |
25270s | the end as well |
25272s | yeah when you describe me that's exactly |
25273s | play ahead of my eye line and then |
25275s | Deadpool's doing it differently I'm |
25276s | thinking well Derek's just wrong then |
25278s | and I'm not going to admit to the fact I |
25280s | agreed and then he started doing like |
25281s | yeah actually Alex is great I love him |
25288s | I love how double coasters procs |
25290s | instantly it's so funny |
25292s | yeah yeah just interrupting their turn |
25295s | nice discounts uh with the double spell |
25297s | damage and a lovely draw of prep |
25300s | on the other side for Levick and a |
25303s | lovely looking ice trap as well |
25307s | so |
25309s | how quickly does Levick do you feel need |
25311s | to get on with this now because |
25312s | obviously when demon Hunter's just doing |
25313s | its thing you don't really know how |
25315s | close they are to winning you do have to |
25316s | get on with it at some point pretty soon |
25318s | right |
25321s | uh yes yeah yeah absolutely you want to |
25323s | start building up a big board now that |
25325s | you've seen one relic of Extinction if |
25327s | you can get minions in play that are up |
25330s | to like six seven health or so it does |
25331s | become a little tricky for them to clear |
25333s | off with unleash fell and get damaged |
25336s | face at the same time but but Levick |
25339s | here you know and until he sees relative |
25341s | dimensions in his opponent's hand he |
25344s | does have a fair bit of time uh to keep |
25347s | just playing his game plan uh these |
25350s | secrets that he's got the |
25353s | explosive runes in particular are going |
25355s | to be so backbreaking for dead draw when |
25358s | they're replayed through Contraband |
25360s | stuff this is going to be tricky for |
25362s | dead draw to get a lethal through |
25364s | anytime soon |
25365s | yep |
25368s | um I mean how many millions have you |
25369s | been in the Demon Hunter deck is it six |
25371s | there's the four spell damage there's |
25372s | the Jace |
25375s | and a snack yeah and a snake so it is |
25377s | it's it's the seven no six yeah this is |
25380s | what I had in my head so you burn the |
25383s | snake at some point and you have to |
25385s | start throwing things in there like you |
25386s | say |
25387s | oh it's gonna be tough |
25390s | nice draw though from dead draw uh with |
25392s | the double relic of Dimensions he's |
25394s | already got a decent |
25396s | hand at the moment actually with the |
25397s | double spell damage and unleash felt |
25399s | it's going to be very tricky uh for |
25401s | Levick to stick aboard against all this |
25404s | hits the relic of Dimensions which is |
25406s | obviously the card you'd want to send |
25408s | back in at this point uh later on in the |
25410s | game you can rely on the gravedigger to |
25413s | Discount uh sorry to counteract big |
25416s | discounts because when they're shuffled |
25418s | back in they are sent back to their |
25419s | original cost at this point you are |
25421s | specifically trying to hit relic of |
25423s | dimensions |
25424s | that unfortunately a second one was also |
25426s | found to the game plan for Levick does |
25428s | not achieve what it was setting out to |
25430s | do very interesting there um Levick |
25432s | taking the the value trade getting rid |
25434s | of the one one that shows how much he's |
25436s | valuing his health total how much harder |
25438s | he knows he's going to make it because |
25439s | he knows he's going to get rid of maybe |
25441s | two spell damage minions maybe even |
25443s | three because if Dedra needs one now to |
25445s | clear this board that will get picked |
25447s | off one way or another |
25450s | um and so every point of health is going |
25452s | to stop some sort of surprise Jace Fury |
25455s | chaos win |
25458s | he valued that one point of Health |
25460s | massively there |
25464s | okay decent discounts |
25467s | that's nice okay yeah pretty good |
25469s | Dimensions overall |
25471s | yeah |
25472s | save that one turns as well |
25475s | very threatening at this point |
25480s | actual minions this is |
25482s | yeah this is however the last big push |
25484s | onto the board that I think dead draw |
25486s | can |
25488s | put together because this is the second |
25490s | relic of dimensions and with uh oh sorry |
25494s | phantasms apologies for the 277s and so |
25498s | if these are dealt with in any form |
25500s | that's about it with the explosive runes |
25503s | denying any real minion pressure from |
25505s | the spell damage that could come down so |
25508s | it's very much all in on the combo game |
25511s | plan here from dead draw and honestly |
25514s | just like a single good secret here from |
25516s | sketchy stranger yeah and Levick can |
25519s | stop the combo from ever happening |
25522s | explosive ruins is okay because it gives |
25526s | you one extra proc but it's a lot worse |
25529s | than objection uh which could have both |
25530s | been replayed again with the stash yeah |
25533s | yeah but it's he is running out of oh |
25536s | dead raw is running out of million |
25537s | options as you've said the freezing trap |
25539s | will cut down one more of these he's |
25542s | picked up the damage to this just to |
25543s | take out the other minion that is |
25545s | everything dealt with and dead draw is |
25547s | gonna have to fiddle around and like I |
25549s | say Levick knew this was the plan |
25551s | cut off one point of damage a moment or |
25554s | two ago just to make it that little bit |
25555s | harder because every point after 30 |
25557s | something makes it so much more |
25559s | difficult |
25561s | I like that is that he does this with 10 |
25563s | cards in hand you don't want this seven |
25565s | seven in your hand right now so you'd |
25567s | rather it die don't you |
25570s | are we 100 sure you don't not 100 uh |
25578s | it's nine Mana though I I realize but |
25582s | you're in a spot right |
25584s | it's fair it's a fair point uh my |
25586s | intuition is still you're right says |
25589s | that you would rather have more |
25590s | handsprings available I do think you're |
25592s | right I'm just um raising the point yeah |
25595s | yeah |
25596s | no no it's a good point because I mean |
25597s | right now realistically the best win |
25599s | condition for dead draw as I see it is |
25601s | drawing the other Phantasm sorry I guess |
25604s | drawing the other relic of Dimensions |
25606s | reduce exactly second Arcanist and fell |
25611s | barrage and then you play the most |
25613s | expensive spell damage card in your hand |
25614s | then play to get it hit with explosive |
25617s | runes then you play all the rest and |
25619s | then you kill him in one turn with two |
25621s | foul barrages two unleash Bells as well |
25623s | doing it now we've not been adding this |
25626s | up he's just going right now |
25629s | but is it enough that the Jace wins next |
25631s | turn is it two turn lethal with Jace |
25633s | through a lot of stuff that's the plan I |
25636s | mean he's saying like he has explosive |
25638s | runes in the pool if I'm procking it now |
25640s | I need to replay the rest of my good |
25643s | minions before he plays the second one |
25645s | and I hope that they stick |
25648s | it's not absurd |
25651s | the hope that they do so I mean they can |
25654s | right they might they might yeah I also |
25659s | love it like you know one of the hearts |
25660s | of his own to eat up a fell or something |
25662s | like that |
25663s | sure yeah |
25670s | and not because there's a chaos in over |
25672s | here |
25675s | yeah and then from there stash or |
25677s | explosive runes we'll reapply the |
25681s | runes |
25687s | also destroy your board very amusingly |
25689s | uh those things are really horrible in |
25692s | the Mirror by the way if um if you don't |
25694s | destroy them if you don't have the spell |
25696s | damage and unleash combo those things |
25699s | just go all the way in the against the |
25702s | weapon version of the deck |
25703s | like Grim the leeches |
25707s | black people |
25711s | indeed yeah okay that's a nice draw |
25713s | cards left for dead draw the one |
25717s | Arcanist is the big one the one fell |
25718s | barrage is the other big one because |
25721s | again I'm thinking if he can discount |
25723s | specifically both spell damage |
25727s | she's got one of |
25729s | he could then go |
25731s | pedal damage |
25733s | that gets destroyed by the runes and |
25735s | then spell damage Jace which might be |
25737s | lethal I |
25740s | I'm not sure if Jace alone will be |
25743s | enough to be lethal I don't think it is |
25744s | quite yet but it could be of the game |
25748s | we've had the three-point Fury we've had |
25750s | the chaos strikes they're getting close |
25752s | now |
25755s | it is getting close uh another few of |
25757s | you so another Fury would be |
25762s | oh no |
25765s | that's really difficult to get through |
25774s | no Extinction If he if he gets the other |
25777s | Fury I think it's 13 from Jace |
25780s | how does he get through this 3-8 though |
25782s | I mean he doesn't now but yeah |
25785s | right okay |
25789s | uh Mark spell yeah |
25809s | it would take it to 16 but also if you |
25811s | get rid of the three eight it's not |
25812s | there anymore obviously |
25817s | again for the other spell damage minion |
25820s | before he can do anything |
25826s | that's true yeah I guess the players you |
25828s | draw the other spell damage you play it |
25829s | and then you hope that the remaining |
25832s | Secret in their hand is not runes or |
25836s | objection even though you know there's a |
25838s | great chance that it's ruined because |
25839s | it's been held for so long what is it |
25842s | like exactly yeah |
25844s | like in the real world he knows but in |
25846s | the world where Hearthstone has to be |
25848s | played you have to play Hearthstone |
25850s | I absolutely agree with this line those |
25852s | are two absolutely hilarious cards to |
25854s | get |
25856s | I mean you could just pyroblast them in |
25858s | the face right now if you want to |
25861s | uh in terms of ice blood Tower I want to |
25864s | say that's not a good idea because ice |
25866s | blood into Shadow step to bounce back |
25868s | the one that I'm stopping you from dying |
25870s | doesn't sound like a great idea that'd |
25873s | be a great one for the did the player |
25875s | making mistakes lists of arguments but |
25878s | you want your shower on because there's |
25880s | something you've miscalculated which |
25881s | there probably isn't just having extra |
25882s | Health that's smaller than 13 on the |
25885s | board to suck up some barrages it's |
25887s | probably just smart |
25889s | yeah and if you pick Tides then you can |
25892s | go uh double pirate next turn which is |
25896s | a guaranteed it's very likely lethal I |
25898s | want to say dead draw throws down the |
25900s | spell damage praying it's not gonna die |
25902s | it dies |
25904s | and uh I think it's gonna struggle to |
25907s | get through all of this |
25911s | so two |
25917s | even if he gets Unleashed fell unleash |
25919s | fell then fell barrage |
25921s | uh they're still the reborn left over |
25924s | afterwards oh I guess actually it |
25926s | doesn't matter which order it goes in |
25931s | yeah enough there it is on the Jace |
25934s | anyway and Levick takes a 1-0 lead I |
25937s | feel like Levick just wins every game of |
25939s | hearthstone he plays at the moment it's |
25941s | not actually true but it certainly feels |
25943s | that way |
25944s | it does and I think again it's Testament |
25947s | to the lineup that the three remaining |
25949s | players in the tournament have right |
25951s | every single player left in has jackpot |
25955s | Rogue of all decks a deck that I well |
25958s | into this tournament was still |
25959s | disrespecting because again it just |
25962s | feels so loose compared to most of the |
25964s | other Rogue decks in the game like for |
25967s | me the the kind of deck I enjoy in |
25969s | Hearthstone and the deck that I feel is |
25970s | strongest are just very tight deckless |
25973s | they have lots of card draw they do one |
25975s | thing and they do it really well that's |
25977s | what Demon Hunter is at the moment |
25979s | that's what any version of Miracle Rogue |
25981s | is right now that's what the Boon |
25983s | priests are right now like that's what |
25985s | wins typically in Hearthstone but this |
25987s | Rogue just has so much more disruption |
25990s | than initially meets the eye these uh |
25994s | now these sketchy strangers sorry time |
25997s | and again have just single-handedly |
25999s | beaten Demon Hunter if you get one |
26001s | explosive or one uh objection it kind of |
26005s | just feels like you win the game versus |
26006s | Demon Hunter a lot of the time yeah and |
26009s | that's the key right you've got two |
26010s | shots at it if you do do all that this |
26012s | is you know because there's two cars |
26014s | there is not just the objection because |
26016s | the runes do it as well makes it so so |
26019s | difficult to get through |
26021s | and that looked it was it was definitely |
26024s | still close at the end their dead draw |
26025s | did set up that 13 damage for one of the |
26028s | terms for instance that with the fell |
26030s | off the top and the opponent not having |
26031s | a taunt would get through there there's |
26033s | something AFC in that statement but he |
26035s | was finding a way to set up lethals even |
26037s | through all that nonsense but yeah you'd |
26040s | go down one zero and that Demon Hunter |
26042s | remains in play and I say that I think |
26045s | that possibly it will come down to with |
26047s | a levix Boone priest could beat the |
26049s | Demon Hunter so he needs to win again |
26051s | here to keep that in place not that bad |
26053s | the boom piece could beat the other |
26054s | decks but he would love to keep that |
26055s | Demon Hunter in play |
26058s | well here we go for Levick on the Demon |
26061s | Hunter the mirror as dead draw will be |
26063s | lining up his own once again as we've |
26066s | seen and as we've said a few times |
26067s | already this tournament no it does kind |
26070s | of feel like one of the lower skill |
26072s | expression matchups but Dedra has I |
26075s | think specifically led to some |
26076s | interesting games in this mirror where |
26079s | the the board-based aspect of this deck |
26083s | is consistently overlooked by a lot of |
26086s | the players yes I agree with him |
26088s | throwing away double relic of phantasms |
26090s | there you don't want it in the starting |
26091s | hand but these kind of players in the |
26093s | mid game where you get up to five five |
26095s | six six maybe even seven seven sized |
26097s | minions of the phantasms can actually |
26100s | pose some really big problems for |
26102s | opponents who were too liberal with |
26104s | their extinctions early on in the game |
26106s | right this is the difference between an |
26108s | exact 50 50 matchup and an underdog |
26110s | matchup right you there's the option |
26112s | there to go coin into phantasms into |
26114s | more phantasms and against some matchups |
26117s | you might just do that and see if it |
26118s | gets there but obviously in a 50 50 it's |
26121s | a long shot it's just a long shot that |
26122s | might just work so you Chuck it away and |
26124s | try and do the thing your deck is built |
26126s | to do which is murder people on turn |
26128s | five horribly with spells living |
26132s | creative who hate over 10 000 years or |
26135s | something I'm sure that law is |
26136s | completely rubbish but I tried |
26141s | uh Quest completable |
26143s | on this turn even if it does come in the |
26145s | form of an unoutcast spectral site I do |
26148s | agree with the line that Levick took |
26151s | this game where he didn't play Outkast |
26153s | spectral site on turn two which would |
26156s | have maximized card draw uh but been |
26160s | uh no Quest completion until like turn |
26163s | four most likely turn three absolutely |
26165s | earliest if you get very very lucky and |
26167s | with this line he's able to get a |
26169s | discount in some pretty valuable cards |
26171s | uh being able to go Relic plus Relic |
26174s | Vault next turn is a nice little push of |
26177s | tempo as I was talking about which can |
26179s | sometimes be relevant in those mid game |
26181s | turns yeah while they're messing around |
26183s | trying to pick it all off and the social |
26184s | has talked about this a lot as well and |
26186s | you've talked about it a lot |
26188s | well they're missing on trying to pick |
26189s | it all off |
26191s | um they're not drawing cards so you're |
26193s | slowing people down in what is a race |
26196s | nice oh my goodness oh wow now we're |
26200s | talking man these turns for Levick have |
26202s | just been so strong |
26206s | yeah now he's got a timing decision to |
26208s | make um I think next time we might see |
26210s | just Vault double phantasms don't push |
26213s | the button and then the turn after just |
26215s | go for the massive car draw |
26218s | another happy really |
26221s | whereas before he picked up that |
26223s | Dimensions everything was very different |
26227s | the good draw it's one draw too late to |
26230s | be able to play it on this turn pretty |
26232s | savagely for dead raw and his Grim is |
26234s | there more or less says it all it's it's |
26237s | a draw you're happy to see |
26240s | but it just hurts to have to play it one |
26242s | turn later again question as to whether |
26244s | or not you play rank one Fury or even |
26248s | fell barrage wow okay I didn't see that |
26252s | Levick just flinched slightly as his |
26255s | headset as he heard dead draw shouting |
26256s | hey Levick I've got dimensions in my |
26258s | hand with that Extinction he just played |
26262s | yeah I agree with this line from dead |
26264s | draw I I do think it's uh yeah |
26268s | he's a bit scary sometimes |
26272s | yeah oh my goodness oh wow |
26278s | uh you don't |
26280s | have to play unleash fell here right you |
26283s | can just start with Relic plus very well |
26286s | into the yeah Relic Vault into the |
26289s | dimensions and yeah |
26291s | I think you get down to exactly six and |
26294s | then are you gonna go Dimensions |
26296s | RV temperatures to go double |
26298s | um go Relic Vault double fantastic with |
26301s | the Vault here |
26302s | no no this is always Dimensions okay |
26305s | sure |
26307s | uh but yeah a little interesting there |
26310s | that he went for it uh first as I really |
26314s | don't think there's any |
26315s | one oh wait he's on cartridge oh sorry |
26317s | he's on Square stage three okay there |
26319s | you go he wants kurchasing hand it was |
26321s | there perfectly acceptable to do so |
26325s | I I honestly didn't even realize that |
26328s | he'd I'd forgotten that he'd gone |
26329s | through so quickly through all these |
26331s | Quest stages given that dead girl hasn't |
26332s | even done one level uh so far and Levick |
26336s | is looking so laser curtress next turn |
26338s | I'm so lazy with Curtis that's why I |
26341s | wasn't looking at the dimensions I just |
26342s | like I just burned my curves because I |
26344s | can't be bothered to keep my hand the |
26345s | right size because it's so |
26347s | often not used but it's big enough in |
26349s | this to actually be a problem so you |
26351s | should probably look after your Curtis |
26355s | think don't |
26357s | press the Vault here oh man because it |
26360s | does make it a lot harder to play the |
26361s | dimensions next turn and even though |
26364s | he's obviously going to be running into |
26365s | some |
26366s | hand space issues potentially |
26369s | I think he's running it today it's very |
26370s | intense issues |
26372s | yeah I guess and again it does exemplify |
26377s | dead draws |
26379s | uh approach to this matchup which |
26381s | consistently does take use of board |
26383s | control rather than just playing purely |
26385s | for the combo which is just a very |
26388s | interesting different way of approaching |
26389s | it from what I've mainly seen on ladder |
26390s | in this exact game right now I can't |
26393s | talk about the rest of his tournament I |
26394s | think he's so far behind |
26396s | that this is the look my opponent's |
26398s | drawn a million cars they're going to |
26399s | kill me so soon set up two turn lethal |
26402s | and see if you get that I grow impatient |
26404s | like you know you don't you know they're |
26406s | going to clear and stuff but it buys you |
26407s | a turn to maybe Dimensions next turn |
26410s | maybe you get out because |
26413s | it's just miles behind |
26415s | I don't think I agree with how far |
26417s | behind he is because drawing cards of |
26418s | this matchup is important but reducing |
26421s | their cost is more important they've |
26424s | both gone Relic plus sorry Relic Vault |
26426s | plus relative dimensions right so |
26428s | they've both reduced the same amount of |
26429s | cards in hand and with this line Levick |
26432s | the thing that Levick has achieved by |
26435s | drawing more cards is he's more likely |
26437s | to have the answer right to clear this |
26439s | off he should be able to accrue the |
26441s | necessary resources to clear this |
26443s | whereas I think for dead draw I I |
26445s | appreciate what he's going for with the |
26446s | board control plan because it disrupts |
26448s | your opponent but I would argue when |
26450s | they're at 10 cards in hand |
26452s | they want to spend a turn playing |
26454s | removal they don't want to go for |
26456s | another Relic draw turn and so |
26459s | personally for me I think it could have |
26462s | been set up where you go for |
26464s | unlocationed relic of phantasms on the |
26467s | previous turn just for two four fours |
26469s | rather than the five five as well and |
26470s | then this turn you get to go coin three |
26473s | throw something away extinctions unleash |
26475s | fell whatever and play The Relic of |
26477s | dimensions and get that one played a |
26479s | single turn earlier okay yeah that |
26482s | that's definitely a line that I can see |
26485s | is incredibly strong |
26487s | um like you say because you know your |
26488s | board doesn't stick my thought process |
26491s | was I think he's a long way behind maybe |
26493s | he thinks he's too far behind because |
26494s | what you've said is planning out would |
26497s | have been quite good |
26499s | um so maybe me and Deborah are both |
26502s | overestimating how far dead Royal is |
26504s | behind because like you say levix Ham's |
26505s | quite expensive and chunky |
26510s | foreign |
26515s | nice easy clear turn though for dead |
26517s | draw uh as he also takes a turn off |
26521s | drawing here which I think is fine for |
26523s | him I I guess to be fair the one thing |
26525s | that Deirdre did actually achieve with |
26527s | this is that Levick did get kurtress in |
26529s | his hand previous turn and he was unable |
26531s | to play it now which is you know when |
26534s | you think it through probably the main |
26535s | thing that Deirdre was looking to |
26537s | achieve which he did do |
26540s | uh now I think Levick should however |
26543s | have his sights set on Relic rather than |
26547s | Catrice on this turn his deck is just so |
26551s | jam-packed with good cards to Discount |
26554s | uh that I'd rather just play The Relic |
26556s | right now because I think the chances of |
26558s | hitting them are very high |
26560s | yeah I'm interested how this pans out |
26561s | because the whole courtress turn was |
26564s | very strange to me anyway just because |
26566s | like I say I I I I I respect getting the |
26569s | extra value from a potential Court just |
26570s | don't get me wrong I'm not that wasteful |
26573s | right I eat all the food on my plate if |
26575s | I can but it it just seemed like you |
26578s | didn't need it at that point it often |
26580s | seems like you don't need it you just |
26582s | winning two or three turns draw a lot of |
26583s | cards reduce them with volts and |
26585s | dimensions and Bam You've Won |
26587s | so I mean just to see what he does with |
26589s | his character so whether it actually |
26590s | ends up being a relevant thing that he's |
26592s | spent quite a lot of time doing |
26594s | and whatever he's doing it's time to do |
26597s | it right now ends up on |
26599s | developing board okay again players very |
26603s | committed to the board and in this |
26604s | instance you can see why deadra wants to |
26606s | play The Relic of Dimensions Levick |
26608s | wants to force him into clearing the |
26610s | board we're going to see whether or he |
26612s | whether or not dead Rock could achieve |
26615s | both on this turn because in order to |
26617s | win the game I think he's gonna have to |
26620s | yeah and he's gonna have to piece it |
26622s | together in bits here come the bits just |
26627s | gonna trust the deck and I think this is |
26628s | correct |
26629s | only 10 cards left draw for them |
26635s | one manage Ace oh my goodness there's |
26639s | removal there they're not fail spells |
26640s | the marks um but oh my God there's so |
26643s | much stuff |
26644s | uh he's played one Unleashed fell not |
26647s | two but he can go Arcanist velberage Fel |
26651s | barrage |
26653s | Chase I I think oh no sorry that's one |
26657s | of one I just have to play the cards |
26659s | you've got no time I don't think unless |
26661s | you play this a million times if you can |
26663s | calculate this you just do it yeah |
26665s | agreed |
26667s | he has to play Jace |
26671s | it works good luck |
26675s | oh man this is so close |
26679s | oh |
26681s | okay that's everything bar one cleared |
26684s | off I believe a 10 attack |
26688s | yeah and it's not leaking it's a lot of |
26690s | damage but now there's so much potential |
26693s | to pull things back here uh for Levick |
26696s | it's just the same turn again for the |
26699s | other direction and bigger things to we |
26701s | move |
26703s | Levick is going to do the same thing |
26705s | spend 20 seconds wondering what to do |
26707s | about it and then realize he's got to |
26708s | rip it |
26710s | just cycling first to put the guild |
26712s | traders in there oh no oh no that's the |
26717s | disaster |
26720s | I think that's the card you needed to |
26722s | discount it would have cost zero but now |
26725s | we can't |
26728s | I did it all to reduce this Guild Trader |
26730s | but yeah the Jace was the key one and |
26733s | there was another balcony so maybe he |
26734s | didn't need to put the guild Trader in |
26736s | there |
26737s | easy in hindsight |
26739s | I wanted to put the guild |
26742s | yeah I think it was correct uh he he |
26744s | needed spell damage and Jace to clean |
26747s | this up and to win the game he took the |
26748s | risk and was punished for it |
26750s | there's no unleash fell in the deck so |
26753s | even if he were to trade he can't play |
26755s | anything that's over and in again such a |
26759s | head scratcher a nail biter a brain |
26762s | melter as a it has started to be dubbed |
26764s | as well in a game there uh Tetra comes |
26768s | away with the win but man like so many |
26770s | different decisions that could have been |
26772s | made there in that mid game I think that |
26773s | was such a fascinating example of a |
26776s | Demon Hunter mirror which I you know |
26779s | have often touted as being a little bit |
26781s | luck of the draw whoever comes out ahead |
26783s | uh in his early turns just wins the game |
26785s | but that was absolutely not the case |
26787s | there many different decisions that |
26788s | could have been made by both of our |
26790s | players to change the outcome yeah both |
26792s | of them putting Minions on the board to |
26793s | try and block fell spells and also to |
26795s | buy time because they're blocking the |
26797s | fail spells they're threatening |
26798s | effectively thought with all the damage |
26800s | that's in the deck if you take 15 points |
26802s | of damage for minions you're going to |
26803s | lose |
26804s | uh with Levick feeling the need to |
26808s | complete Quest into a courtress actually |
26811s | in his hand which involved him fiddling |
26813s | around a little bit that turn and |
26815s | there's obviously layers to this that |
26817s | the players have been playing this and |
26819s | they'll have play test groups around |
26820s | them playing this helping them out as |
26822s | well because they're in the world |
26823s | championships friends help you out |
26826s | um have come to the conclusion that you |
26827s | do need that minion presence a lot of |
26829s | the time |
26832s | Demon Hunter once again now for levik |
26835s | you can uh I love it you can always spot |
26838s | the true ladder Grinders in a tournament |
26840s | setting can't you who just jammed the |
26842s | same deck over and over again when it |
26844s | loses like it's blies it's levic it's uh |
26848s | yeah any of the ladder Gods whenever you |
26849s | see them pop up in tournaments it's |
26852s | always just the same over and over again |
26853s | and I think that is kind of telling the |
26856s | story here of the series wherein |
26860s | the Demon Hunter for Levick is the weak |
26863s | spot there's just some good matchups I |
26865s | think across the board for dead draw |
26866s | where he's got this Mage left behind |
26868s | here this is I think the most arguable |
26870s | again I see the theory behind this with |
26873s | double objection and a whole bunch of uh |
26876s | disruption spells like the solid Alibi |
26878s | in order to make it harder for your |
26880s | opponent to kill you |
26881s | having said that I do think in practice |
26883s | the Rogue has looked more convincing |
26885s | versus The Demon Hunter than the Mage |
26888s | has for me |
26889s | yeah absolutely I agree with you I think |
26891s | the majors are finer there's three |
26893s | Majors left there's two highlighted at |
26894s | the start in the last three people in |
26896s | the tournament so it's going pretty well |
26897s | I know they're slightly different builds |
26899s | and so on but seems to be the the bring |
26902s | as the phrase goes very well you're |
26905s | saying about levick's weak point I think |
26907s | now that the Demon Hunter has won four |
26909s | dead draw levix Boone priest is also a |
26912s | little bit sketchy now uh with not |
26916s | necessarily the easiest way out of it |
26917s | with a double objection Deadpool's ping |
26919s | Mage for instance making things a lot |
26921s | harder |
26922s | so Levick I feel significantly behind in |
26926s | this one one at Best of five uh but |
26929s | nothing that a win in this game would |
26930s | wouldn't turn around in a heartbeat |
26934s | and therefore one of the few things that |
26937s | can dissuade a man from going for uh all |
26940s | out on relics is spectral site in the |
26945s | leftmost position it can be when |
26946s | factoring Quest whereby on turn three or |
26950s | turn two with a coin |
26952s | super smooth uh stage one Quest |
26954s | completion just ready to go and another |
26956s | spectral site to follow up means even |
26959s | though there's no Dimensions quite yet |
26960s | for levig this Quest is going to be |
26962s | absolutely plowed through yeah and that |
26965s | will usually especially in his build |
26967s | allow you to just get the |
26970s | the stuff you need incredibly quickly |
26978s | their draw just obviously nothing to do |
26980s | in this opener for a few turns you just |
26982s | got to sit there and let the Demon |
26983s | Hunter go out their business that's |
26984s | terrifying in its own right |
26987s | he's doing it on turn two interesting |
26990s | job's done because it doesn't cause |
26996s | oh wow uh but he doesn't right unless he |
26998s | got specifically zero Mana Central of |
27001s | alacrity uh it's only four cards he's |
27004s | drawing next turn why not |
27006s | uh so when I go again what I mean is if |
27009s | he drew the facility spectral sites and |
27011s | the first two cards were rubbish |
27013s | he could just go okay I don't want to |
27014s | reduce those and then the turn after he |
27016s | could have cycled knee for greed and |
27017s | spectral cited into some better cards |
27020s | he got two looks at um a reduction |
27024s | but as it is he ripped a relative |
27025s | dimensions and reduced that instead |
27028s | yeah fully agree with this line to play |
27030s | a one Mana draw card first be it Mark of |
27033s | scorn or trade The Guild Trader because |
27035s | you want to hit specifically The Relic |
27038s | Vault and that's the only real card that |
27040s | significantly upgrades your next turn |
27049s | ah this guy |
27051s | oh |
27055s | yeah |
27057s | okay |
27060s | she's the cost as well it's disgusting |
27067s | to play them both |
27070s | down yeah oh actually sorry more |
27073s | specifically play the one Mana one save |
27075s | the zero Mana one for |
27077s | whatever amount of surprise Factor |
27079s | that's for sure |
27082s | do something else with the develop yeah |
27085s | sure |
27089s | yeah saving Health can be relevant |
27090s | emotions |
27092s | absolutely yeah and it does just upgrade |
27094s | your Relic because the difference |
27095s | between discounting by one and |
27097s | discounting by three and then four is |
27100s | Big very very big |
27102s | yeah it's weird because after that the |
27105s | difference becomes smaller game but this |
27106s | first couple of reductions are massive |
27110s | okay next turn is amazing for him and |
27113s | dead draw has |
27116s | very little going on here |
27121s | the card is found though the spicy Tech |
27123s | card that counters very nicely a deck |
27126s | that as you said runs six millions and |
27128s | six minions alone with no ability to |
27130s | discover more |
27132s | I do agree though that for dead draw |
27133s | it's not time |
27136s | yet it's not like jackpot Rogue where |
27140s | you play it and then you can replay it |
27142s | again and again with the stash and Tess |
27144s | you play it once and then it's it's gone |
27147s | it's a one-time effective for the Mage |
27149s | so you want to save that until either |
27151s | you've seen the rust Viper or you |
27153s | suspect it's Jace time this is an |
27156s | interesting turn by the way Levick just |
27158s | being very very much going to sort of |
27161s | dump some stuff out of his hand before |
27162s | getting his Dimensions off |
27165s | yeah again you could kind of see he |
27167s | wanted Jace right yeah |
27174s | very interesting turn |
27181s | oh no |
27183s | yeah this is not it is it it really |
27186s | isn't |
27188s | just nothing happening to the point |
27190s | where he's been kind of forced into |
27191s | playing the objection here |
27194s | and Levick just to do something very |
27197s | slightly there's just to say yeah okay |
27198s | well that's that's fine |
27201s | it is entirely face up uh given that |
27204s | there's only one secret or one type of |
27207s | secret in the deck in the objection so |
27209s | Levick does know what he's up against |
27211s | here |
27212s | uh |
27214s | but could take that opportunity to just |
27217s | play Silvermoon I grow in Arcanist but I |
27221s | don't |
27222s | really see what that achieves you |
27223s | because the rest of the manner that |
27225s | you're spending on this turn uh you know |
27227s | it can go on relic of Extinction oh |
27228s | sorry of phantasms which is okay to |
27231s | develop board but playing need for greed |
27234s | doesn't do that much because I think you |
27235s | play both Quest I think you play Silver |
27238s | Moon and Relic and just get some stuff |
27239s | out your hand this hand is just his main |
27241s | problem here is dumping stuff and what |
27243s | do you ever dump you don't really want |
27244s | to dump the barrels you don't really |
27245s | want to dump the silver moons but also |
27248s | two three Mana silver moons you're never |
27250s | casting them both the same turn are you |
27254s | no uh but it's just I think |
27256s | demonstrating again very clearly here |
27258s | that Levick wants kirchers he wants that |
27261s | in half uh I don't know if he |
27264s | necessarily wants to play it for the |
27267s | Battle Cry the effects for the rest of |
27269s | the game or just to have that secret |
27271s | seventh minion that you could use to |
27273s | counteract uh another objection and |
27276s | therefore save all your spell damage |
27278s | cards that remains to be seen uh but |
27281s | either way it does show that while I |
27283s | think a lot of players first instinct |
27285s | with this deck once they've played it a |
27286s | little bit is to disregard kertress and |
27288s | say it doesn't matter without gliding |
27290s | the deck you don't get enough value |
27292s | whereas Levick uh very much disagrees |
27294s | both games he's tried to get this down |
27296s | with pretty high priority |
27298s | yeah absolutely and again here I mean |
27300s | definitely playing this very wrongly |
27302s | apparently in just not being scared to |
27305s | lose my silver moons because I'm going |
27306s | to get zero Manor Guild Traders anyway |
27308s | and getting that Relic Castle trying to |
27311s | get to the next one but he's been |
27312s | protecting car draw he's got 11 cards |
27314s | left in his deck he's setting up |
27316s | some sort of mad scientist to turn |
27319s | lethal from here maybe |
27323s | that was ambitious |
27335s | man he's playing this so slowly he can |
27339s | play it out it really is such a patience |
27341s | it's fascinating when somebody plays it |
27343s | plays The Peddler as well |
27345s | yeah yeah when they play thanks I guess |
27348s | at least what I'm expecting I'm just |
27349s | assuming they've got some you know |
27351s | they've got so much practice like |
27352s | they're playing it very well that's just |
27354s | all I can assume they've got a totally |
27355s | different game plan yeah yeah |
27360s | of course I was forgetting again these |
27362s | Tusk pieces plus The Peddler that's in |
27363s | the deck which makes it the seven minion |
27365s | deck plus sure Kirk have been the secret |
27367s | eight million uh not seventh which is a |
27370s | pretty big deal uh Levick I do think |
27372s | still needs to hit |
27375s | pretty key discount with these relative |
27379s | dimensions which he should be able to do |
27381s | with pretty high likelihood because one |
27384s | of the things he's gained by drawing so |
27387s | many cards in his deck before he plays |
27389s | relic of Dimensions is he's essentially |
27391s | guaranteed to discount at least one |
27394s | Guild Trader if not both because you can |
27397s | keep cycling them back in it doesn't |
27398s | matter how small your deck gets you can |
27400s | always shuffle them back in and then |
27401s | play The Relic afterwards uh which is |
27404s | again another cool aspect of this style |
27407s | of play from Levick which is also sorry |
27411s | he's going into the box turn right which |
27414s | has given sort of some box location |
27418s | what if that was uh I want to not just |
27420s | die yeah to not just die because he's on |
27422s | 16. so the box is is this is a seven |
27425s | five chill in there that the Box might |
27426s | actually hit if a pyro comes out or |
27429s | something maybe |
27432s | oh it's not a great start |
27434s | that's a decent riddle |
27441s | and you know that's a pretty good end as |
27443s | well that's a respectable box all around |
27449s | which is hilarious |
27453s | I really is |
27456s | okay only six managers who unfortunately |
27459s | was not able to hit that with the |
27461s | relative dimensions for a much bigger |
27463s | discount but the important factor Still |
27465s | Remains those |
27468s | Guild Traders |
27473s | doesn't quite get there |
27476s | not on its own yeah |
27479s | test the secret no objection |
27483s | no runes |
27488s | loads of choices here depending how far |
27490s | he thinks the game is gone he could play |
27492s | the other Silver Moon Yeah and get a |
27495s | load of stuff out of this unleash and |
27496s | barrage but then you haven't got an |
27498s | unleash barrage anymore |
27505s | a little surprising not to him start |
27506s | with the Unleashed fell but I guess he's |
27508s | got loftier plans for that card I guess |
27512s | not I was testing counter spell first |
27514s | again sorry of course yeah he needs to |
27516s | work through the secrets |
27519s | I think he'll play one better |
27525s | that would make sense to me because of |
27527s | Nick's turns Jace yeah here we go |
27535s | okay let's go again |
27540s | boxing for all the Marvels here hear |
27543s | Hearthstone boxing a good start by chess |
27545s | boxing |
27547s | but it's Hearthstone |
27550s | uh remove a Minion from the game go be |
27553s | gone parrot |
27557s | and uh counter spell kind of amusingly |
27559s | is a very nice card uh to have found |
27562s | here because there aren't many spells |
27565s | left uh for Levick |
27571s | no |
27574s | uh you know sigil would be the best card |
27577s | to play into that to get rid of it and I |
27579s | imagine he will not leave himself in a |
27581s | situation where he's just losing to |
27582s | counter spell but it's another thing to |
27584s | think about at the very least uh which |
27586s | is all working in tetra's favor |
27595s | but I mean speaking of things to think |
27596s | about like dead draw again could have |
27598s | been of the mindset of you go ping plus |
27600s | snow flurry to try and set up for a more |
27603s | dress or a rune of the arc major lethal |
27607s | next turn |
27609s | Phantasm seems like a reasonable test |
27611s | he's got to work out he's got lethal |
27613s | through whatever else is left |
27618s | yeah he just needs to again be cautious |
27620s | of Secrets there's another mystery Mage |
27623s | secret that he needs to work through |
27625s | here so he's first of all thinking |
27627s | counter spell he wants to get rid of the |
27629s | dimensions I was thinking he's been sort |
27632s | of freestyling all over this game by not |
27633s | playing his dimensions for the whole |
27635s | game |
27636s | okay there you go and he knows that that |
27638s | was the second secret the first one he |
27640s | narrowed down I believe to Visage or ice |
27643s | barrier exclusively because he did test |
27646s | for the Oasis Ally towards the end there |
27649s | and so he's not really afraid he can |
27651s | just not attack face until the end of |
27654s | this game and he should be fine |
27656s | or potentially even at all |
27660s | yeah |
27663s | 36 isn't that hard with this reductions |
27665s | yeah I'm amazed how slowly he's played |
27668s | this Relic it's been really interesting |
27670s | to me |
27672s | Oh I thought said okay |
27675s | there's the other one |
27679s | there we go |
27682s | those are now next turn Mana |
27685s | the last card in his deck is Guild |
27687s | Trader which I think |
27689s | will cost zero because of the effect of |
27692s | kirchers haven't been traded back and |
27693s | forth so unless there's a secret which |
27696s | can come down to disrupt it in the form |
27698s | of objection which was just drawn oh no |
27701s | wait there's a Viper for Levick to |
27703s | Discount that uh he can then just go |
27705s | triple spell damage Fel barrage plus |
27708s | Chase and I |
27710s | do not see |
27713s | dead draw putting up a strong enough |
27715s | defense to survive that imagine if |
27718s | Deadpool had a different secret he could |
27720s | put up so that when you play the Viper |
27722s | it doesn't die screws up your board |
27724s | space |
27728s | it doesn't matter the very least |
27736s | that makes sense |
27740s | board Frozen Lord super Frozen we get it |
27744s | you can stop now rune laughs |
27749s | man that was an insane uh insane route |
27752s | of the archmage there does he know the |
27754s | secret he does not right |
27756s | he knows his barrier or Visage |
27758s | okay so he doesn't want to play the |
27760s | snake to test |
27763s | because there'd be no space in the board |
27764s | for the other minions if he did that he |
27766s | would be able to get the Jace down |
27767s | oh man but he doesn't want to do |
27770s | anything like that was such a brutal |
27773s | combination from Detroit like if Levick |
27776s | does nothing |
27781s | say or you know just whatever |
27784s | combination it could be there's a card |
27785s | that came off the uh the Rune door |
27787s | earlier on he could just be dead |
27790s | but if he plays any of these cards it's |
27793s | going into a solid Alibi doesn't |
27796s | actually do any damage I think he just |
27799s | has to close his eyes and say please |
27802s | don't let me be dead let dead draw have |
27804s | nothing in hand that kills me don't let |
27807s | him play another song of Alibi and then |
27809s | I win next turn yeah he's got to do some |
27811s | counting as well right it might be worth |
27813s | playing at The Barrage if he's still got |
27814s | lethal next turn just to remove some of |
27816s | the damage |
27817s | sure okay |
27820s | just On The Fringe cases |
27824s | door grasp off the top how many frost |
27826s | spells has he played uh I honestly can't |
27829s | remember I've lost track there's been so |
27831s | much happening in the last couple of |
27832s | turns |
27834s | no flurries |
27836s | no |
27838s | cold God no sorry one Cold Case has been |
27841s | played so honestly it might come down to |
27842s | like a slim chance to hit |
27846s | all the way but the solid Alibi came |
27847s | from the the sorry the |
27851s | root of the arc major it wasn't actually |
27853s | played itself so it's obviously not |
27854s | going to be played off the the dawn |
27856s | grass we need to find some other way to |
27857s | survive and I don't know if Bard has got |
27861s | internet he's got an intellect |
27864s | and a Finley oh it gets |
27867s | feet okay he's digging for The Alibi uh |
27871s | did you go somewhere first for one extra |
27874s | card apparently not |
27877s | oh man Levick can't believe it |
27881s | this way he might get another I'm I've |
27883s | lost track completely might get another |
27885s | intellect there it is |
27887s | that's the chord |
27893s | [Music] |
27895s | that's it that'll do it instead yeah |
27897s | four damage the solid Alibi or The |
27899s | Apprentice either way dead draw I think |
27901s | had that game on Lock and oh my goodness |
27905s | I doubted hard that Mage at the end I |
27909s | did not think he was going to be able to |
27910s | stand up against all that damage from |
27913s | Levick but the solid Alibi specifically |
27917s | I think that was the only card that same |
27919s | saved him off the Rune of the archmage |
27921s | Dead draw hit it and the next turn just |
27923s | found the nuts to survive |
27925s | brought a silly end to a game of |
27927s | hearthstone unbelievable |
27930s | he's one game away from a final of the |
27933s | World Championships against his teammate |
27937s | at the end of an incredible year for |
27939s | both of them |
27941s | and Levick has some mediocre match-ups |
27944s | still to come it is looking so good |
27948s | right now for Deadpool but this has been |
27950s | the story of dead George's career it's |
27952s | always looked good for him and something |
27953s | always gets him at the last second |
27956s | so will he actually reach the world |
27959s | championship final or is he going to be |
27960s | denied stay tuned no we're not taking a |
27963s | break we are staying right with all this |
27964s | don't worry about that |
27967s | no no no it's not gonna happen I I can |
27970s | feel Mom and Dad draw cheering him on so |
27973s | hard that nothing can possibly go wrong |
27975s | at this point surely |
27978s | I enjoy the tweets after each dead draw |
27980s | Victory it's like well done too Jack the |
27983s | player that I know quite well I'm |
27985s | rooting for you well played Jack it's |
27987s | it's great I love it |
27989s | it's the purest thing I've ever seen I |
27991s | love it so much uh but yeah just the uh |
27994s | the jackpot Rogue revealing which |
27997s | in case you're watching Mom and Dad draw |
27998s | is good this is good this is what we |
28000s | want to see as Deadpool fans playing |
28002s | Hearthstone just to explain it in |
28005s | layman's terms this uh is a deck again |
28008s | uh as we've seen time and again as we |
28010s | saw in the reverse earlier on in this |
28012s | series right where Levick was on the |
28013s | Rogue Dead draw was on the Demon Hunter |
28015s | it should be in a good position with all |
28017s | the disruption all the repeated effects |
28019s | and of course all the pressure that can |
28021s | come from jackpot Rogue to be able to |
28022s | beat the Demon Hunter uh first of all |
28025s | though Levick is going to be lining up |
28026s | his Boon priest instead which is a bit |
28029s | of a tougher Prospect I want to say for |
28032s | the jackpot Rogue interesting I don't |
28034s | think it is but do you not okay |
28038s | yeah I think I think they've been pretty |
28040s | sort of gives that a little bit extra |
28041s | time sometimes not always and there's |
28045s | just ways of dealing with the stuff so |
28046s | I'm interested to see how it goes I'm |
28047s | not a jackpot Rogue Aficionado by any |
28050s | means I will admit |
28053s | um but I feel that I would rather just |
28054s | have |
28056s | my Straight Up Demon Hunter and take my |
28058s | chance they don't objection too often |
28061s | he's gonna play them both it's not like |
28062s | there's any decision here just how do |
28064s | you feel |
28067s | I just the the way I see it in Rogue |
28070s | there's two ways you get out of a big |
28072s | board right it's coin coin scabs or coin |
28076s | scabs if they did it very late into the |
28077s | game or it's find something that doesn't |
28080s | exist in your deck those are the two |
28082s | ways out of a really big board priest |
28085s | board |
28085s | neither of those are outside |
28089s | possibilities they're not Fringe |
28091s | outcomes that never happen but they're |
28092s | not especially likely either and I think |
28095s | the disruptive tools that you have along |
28097s | the way are not quite potent enough uh |
28100s | in order to fully stop the priest dead |
28102s | in its tracks because there's some |
28105s | tricks that priests has of its own for |
28107s | example if you get down a |
28111s | objection or the explosive runes priest |
28115s | has some minions they don't mind getting |
28116s | rid of themselves and they can also |
28118s | steal them with identity theft and then |
28120s | play them back against you on the other |
28122s | side and just again as soon as priest |
28125s | does hit that explosive uh turn where |
28129s | they go off and make those two or three |
28131s | massive minions Rogue specifically needs |
28134s | to have hit you know shadowed ruin brawl |
28137s | Whirlpool whatever just one of these big |
28140s | uh spells that the uh |
28143s | catches the priest of God and there's no |
28146s | potions in this visual sorry uh |
28148s | concoctions in this version as well |
28150s | which is one of the big deals I guess is |
28152s | there yeah right did you just play them |
28155s | uh yeah yeah you play a little bit you |
28157s | play double potion belt because the |
28159s | concoctions |
28161s | are huge uh because they aren't that |
28164s | absolutely if you hit them you kind of |
28166s | win so that's a good point |
28169s | there is stuff there sure but it's like |
28172s | you have to hit that alongside also a |
28175s | serrated bone Spike because there's |
28177s | always a village or a priestess hidden |
28180s | behind oh sorry or a handmaiden hidden |
28183s | behind all those big radiant Elementals |
28185s | uh so you're right I should add that to |
28187s | the list of ways the road can dig itself |
28189s | out of these holes but it's just always |
28191s | I feel like a little bit below 50 chance |
28194s | to hit that okay levick's showing what |
28196s | he thinks is like okay well here's a 2-3 |
28198s | that I really want on the board and deal |
28200s | with it or it's going to hurt you that's |
28202s | how he's how he's reading the situation |
28204s | straight away |
28205s | oh yeah |
28207s | can't objection it if it's already there |
28213s | that's an interesting choice actually |
28215s | for their draw here like prep Sprint is |
28218s | the obvious play to just get uh against |
28222s | some of those answers we were talking |
28223s | about in hand but prep jackpot into |
28226s | private eye was a pretty good turn next |
28229s | turn |
28230s | kind of close is there any health total |
28233s | you'd consider a key number in this |
28234s | matchup sort of a number obviously you |
28236s | don't want to be on three so a buff of |
28238s | some sort is nice but is there a second |
28240s | number like do you really want to be on |
28241s | six or seven as opposed to |
28244s | is there one number that's just where |
28245s | you want to rest I guess oh and Minion |
28248s | Health Brothers yeah |
28252s | um uh no necessarily I mean like I guess |
28254s | above four yeah because three is the |
28257s | number as you said for null and serrated |
28259s | bone Spike but then with the dagger |
28260s | included that kind of bumps up to four |
28262s | so five a lot of the time becomes very |
28264s | difficult for rogue to kill uh but I |
28267s | don't think that's really the big |
28268s | concern here for Levy he's not playing |
28270s | this radiant to have it survive and |
28273s | close out the game he's playing it |
28275s | because he has anime dead in his deck |
28277s | and you know maybe Deirdre doesn't kill |
28279s | it and then you'll happily just use the |
28281s | original body |
28283s | uh but most of the time that's not the |
28285s | case |
28287s | he does go about it in this rather funky |
28289s | looking yeah because of the Paladin |
28292s | secrets I will say it's not just him |
28294s | being uh an idiot playing it the wrong |
28296s | way round he is taking a an incredibly |
28299s | understated pop-up turn compared to what |
28302s | you would usually expect but I guess |
28304s | hoping that that's not Reckoning now |
28307s | that he's seen it's not Judgment of |
28308s | Justice uh but he's also seen it's not |
28313s | get down or uh |
28315s | oh no the uh Galloping savior so there's |
28320s | few Secrets it could be at this point |
28322s | for him bloodlust and tiny toys might be |
28325s | a combo in some decks but it's not where |
28327s | you want to be with Rogue right now |
28330s | and that's a decent draw |
28338s | Secrets is so dumb |
28341s | are you playing with every Secret in |
28343s | Hearthstone it's like oh my head just |
28345s | hurts it's not even particularly hard |
28347s | it's just you can't slip up |
28350s | I mean you know nothing goes wrong here |
28352s | right because it's just perjury plus the |
28353s | Paladin secret yeah and I think the only |
28355s | ones that could be left now are avenge |
28357s | and Reckoning |
28359s | so a spell is always safe to play the |
28362s | question is what you do now because you |
28363s | could bump in |
28365s | gift to heal them back up because you |
28367s | have to damage them before it's going to |
28369s | draw a card |
28371s | or you could just full pass if you're |
28374s | really afraid of Reckoning I don't know |
28376s | I just feel like for Levick either line |
28378s | doesn't lead to a win |
28382s | looking pretty bleak |
28384s | yeah it really is |
28390s | oh it's two cards versus a seven nine |
28394s | thing of yellowness |
28398s | brutal as well |
28402s | actually can you just set up the tiny |
28404s | toys here and then bloodluster kill for |
28406s | the remaining stuff next turn |
28408s | that's pretty sick yeah you go about it |
28411s | that way |
28415s | and then when you've killed the last |
28416s | thing you just win at your leisure |
28420s | okay not not great but sure it's fine |
28423s | though right you've got just got numbers |
28425s | on the boards of bloodlust |
28428s | okay that's a spell that's a pretty good |
28430s | spell as well to get some immediate |
28432s | value and proc the handmaiden |
28435s | or you want to pick bone Spike to play |
28437s | more cards but honestly I kind of wonder |
28439s | if that had to be reconnaissance because |
28441s | gigafin as you're out uh at this point |
28448s | some stuff but it's yeah it's the best |
28451s | card |
28453s | and mate needs to be absurdly strong |
28459s | another one's nice oh devour number two |
28463s | second devour yeah that's nice |
28466s | you've got a three two he's rolled out a |
28468s | lot of Hunter Secrets now yeah you're |
28470s | gonna get your menu so you can't even |
28472s | test the um |
28475s | risk it |
28477s | yeah I think that's wise |
28480s | again you do have some amount of |
28482s | information right even though it's just |
28484s | a random Hunter secret you know it was |
28485s | picked over a mage or a paladin secret |
28488s | the Mage one is the more important piece |
28490s | of information so |
28493s | you I you are I think correct to suspect |
28495s | that it's freezing trap yeah yeah plus |
28497s | what does it I mean what does the seven |
28499s | really do for you here anyway it's too |
28501s | much to risk Fair yeah |
28509s | yeah it does set up bless lethal off the |
28511s | top |
28512s | is the argument for it door but I think |
28516s | I agree it's a bit too scary to try it |
28519s | your hand was different and didn't have |
28520s | three minions at a krabato in there I |
28522s | think maybe it's a bit different as well |
28523s | you shut your eyes and hope that he's |
28525s | bluffing but no need to do that just yet |
28530s | dead draw Mighty onshore in this |
28532s | position though he's currently protected |
28534s | but it is a flimsy protection indeed |
28536s | with it just being the freezing trap |
28538s | right now |
28540s | this gives the krabatora something to to |
28542s | rush into |
28550s | yeah he thought for a long time I think |
28552s | he's aware that this is an outside |
28553s | possibility |
28556s | I think it was something he he doesn't |
28557s | look particularly surprised about |
28560s | yeah and there it is this is the the big |
28562s | reason of holding back on the attack as |
28565s | well as of course krabator can protect |
28567s | the freezing trap on the very next turn |
28570s | and uh |
28573s | obviously things all of a sudden looking |
28574s | a lot scarier uh for dead draw |
28578s | to the point where it looks like he's |
28579s | hovering over the future side there |
28581s | which means he's going to go looking for |
28583s | um |
28585s | the removal concoction destroy yeah |
28588s | trading these two and then serrated and |
28591s | hope he gets destroyed |
28593s | well you could start with tooth and then |
28595s | you could serrated your own guy |
28597s | afterwards and you'd still just have |
28599s | Mana |
28601s | to play the concoction right |
28604s | um and you of course get one Discovery |
28606s | off of tooth first which I think I |
28607s | slightly prefer he's a massive favorite |
28609s | to get it here by the way he's got |
28611s | repeated three and five chances |
28621s | so sick |
28623s | let's destroy a minion |
28625s | that's gonna get the job done and Levick |
28628s | knows his chance of it not being there a |
28630s | really tiny here it's just too too many |
28632s | shots at over 50 50. |
28635s | well no it's one out of five right it's |
28637s | not three out of five because you don't |
28638s | discover |
28641s | oh yeah sure so it's not quite so bad |
28643s | yeah good point |
28645s | uh-huh |
28646s | but still yeah yeah |
28655s | okay what do we got off the sunwell here |
28657s | as a chance to turn things around for |
28659s | Levick you've got the hilarious combo of |
28662s | flipper friends for a bunch of otters |
28664s | and then immediately consuming their |
28666s | souls don't look Rosa but I don't know |
28671s | if that's necessarily uh gonna be enough |
28674s | to uh to turn it around |
28680s | there's a dead Road |
28682s | going to take his time here because he |
28684s | can set up lethals if he's careful with |
28685s | the bloodlust not immediately but he |
28687s | needs to be counting everything because |
28688s | there's so many ways to maybe set up |
28689s | lethal |
28692s | if you're attacked with the fort it |
28694s | would be 23. |
28696s | yeah you can't get that much set up so |
28698s | just play normal Hearthstone |
28711s | oh man I mean any of these are fine just |
28713s | stuff count your matter how much stuff |
28715s | you want play card that adds up to |
28717s | number |
28719s | How can I |
28721s | ask the law |
28723s | rape Decker like just to have stats he's |
28727s | going to play about every card in the |
28728s | game right now which makes it a little |
28729s | bit harder I guess |
28731s | sure yeah yeah |
28733s | point |
28735s | so this is like an arena turn where you |
28737s | put down as much as you feel is about |
28739s | enough without overdoing it |
28743s | oh I think maybe robot out there uh or |
28746s | if it gets the card you want another |
28749s | that's a lethal Destroyer minion |
28752s | flavic doesn't kill something here it's |
28754s | game over |
28755s | she will of course |
28758s | and I'm going to guess that he did rope |
28759s | out I don't think he would ever pick a |
28761s | krabato's closet to send back into the |
28763s | deck there |
28769s | oh man it's the last turn isn't it we |
28772s | just have to see if this is good enough |
28774s | for Levick he resurrects himself grab |
28776s | her toes claw that's not what you want |
28779s | to see |
28781s | although I guess it does allow him to |
28783s | finish off |
28785s | finally put your side yeah |
28790s | he doesn't know there's a but he has |
28791s | already generated two more Destroyer |
28793s | minion concoctions uh even before he's |
28796s | killed off which is so big |
28799s | yeah |
28801s | as good that has got the card draw on as |
28803s | well if you're wondering well he's |
28804s | starting to run out of stuff the yellow |
28805s | one on the right hand side is card draw |
28807s | so he will be able to get that done as |
28809s | well |
28811s | get more stuff which isn't dead and he's |
28814s | getting more stuff it's so dangerous |
28817s | yeah yeah Levick really trying his best |
28820s | to get the best for Lee she can without |
28822s | going down to zero Mana because he |
28824s | doesn't want to prop the uh double cross |
28827s | that he knows his opponent has |
28830s | okay good way of doing so |
28835s | loads of rubbish on the board to try and |
28837s | defend the 513 blessing hand as well |
28842s | so you have |
28845s | a really annoyingly nine Mana to work |
28848s | with instead of 10 it means you can't go |
28849s | ask the Lord dagger double concoction uh |
28852s | you instead would just have to go ask |
28854s | the law or dagger and that double |
28856s | concoction and hope that with one of |
28857s | them you're able to snipe off uh the |
28860s | radiant in what is essentially just a 50 |
28862s | 50. yep |
28866s | foreign |
28873s | you can deal three damage first so it's |
28875s | better than a 50 50 but it's still |
28878s | currently a chance that you could miss |
28881s | yes |
28889s | he's gonna play a fine love because he's |
28891s | going to be shot he's gonna like |
28893s | mentally uh jibery |
28896s | Levick knows what's up he knows what's |
28898s | going on I think deadra's realizing you |
28900s | have to do it in this way deal three |
28901s | damage first then draw two cards Two |
28904s | Shots |
28905s | Out of the first try he hits the radiant |
28909s | Levick collapse and I think is saying |
28912s | goodbye to his hopes at the Grand finals |
28915s | here because now I struggle to see a way |
28917s | for him back into this game |
28920s | he looks tough |
28922s | we're just looking at Dead draw's Hand |
28923s | and with the two card drawing there I |
28927s | feel like the drawers is incredibly |
28929s | strong spot the only thing stopping me |
28931s | from saying it's over is this like all |
28935s | in but then the last menu gets eaten |
28937s | next turn and that's all over |
28947s | one final big minion it's a good push |
28950s | and it is admittedly still tough for |
28952s | dead draw to clear |
28954s | most of the time |
28956s | but he has of course got that one final |
28958s | mixed concoction to uh to clear things |
28960s | up which means a hitting first time last |
28962s | term was absolutely monstrously |
28964s | important yeah seriously |
28973s | he's not even messing around with |
28976s | jackpot he's just getting the cards |
28978s | played that he knows he needs to play on |
28980s | the board |
28981s | I love it here thinking like come on I |
28984s | watch for mighty's games yesterday where |
28985s | he missed like four shots at getting one |
28988s | of these concoctions to destroy an |
28990s | opposing minion and this time dead |
28992s | drills hit three in like the last few |
28994s | turns it's just been perfect for |
28996s | concoction after perfect concoction |
28998s | fathedral all the way along and uh |
29002s | levick's only real chance was like |
29004s | hitting pyroblast like this Alibi had to |
29006s | be pyroblast or some other |
29008s | uh convoluted chain of spells to get |
29011s | there |
29012s | jackpot is potentially part of that |
29015s | convoluted trainer I suppose as is as |
29017s | though on the flamebringer minions |
29021s | bloodless will kill him I think I |
29023s | haven't actually checked |
29025s | it is he's got potion belt |
29027s | he can destroy something first I mean |
29030s | surely he's owned a concoction of his |
29032s | own to kill something |
29034s | sure |
29037s | or of course Alibi he has access to okay |
29041s | um so then you jackpot now because |
29043s | you've got The Alibi sure |
29046s | right like he could go jackpot into the |
29047s | scourge right and then he's healing |
29053s | really healing it feels that next turn |
29056s | he's got um he's only going to use |
29058s | either the jackpot or the potion belt I |
29059s | guess |
29062s | I'd rather jackpot a bit sure I'm not |
29065s | going to blame anything at this point he |
29066s | knows about the the eight man of Astral |
29068s | or so oh sorry it's it's yeah he knows |
29070s | there's an asteroid in hand which still |
29072s | deals damage through so this leaves him |
29075s | alive at one so sorry he did actually |
29077s | have to heal to survive against the |
29079s | Aston law that's a nice spot |
29085s | because again as the law works |
29091s | yeah yeah it's exactly one off with |
29093s | dagger |
29098s | uh this is the thing I just want to |
29099s | shout out we've said sort of he has |
29101s | intangibly good play and very few |
29103s | mistakes that's exactly the sort of |
29104s | things like that heel there it's not |
29106s | going to save him it's not going to |
29107s | change his his year in any way he's |
29109s | going to almost certainly lose the |
29111s | quarter final semifinals of the World |
29112s | Championships but just those little |
29114s | spots the things that he's done all year |
29116s | long |
29118s | exactly he just sees little things that |
29121s | other people might miss always got it in |
29123s | the back of his mind |
29125s | and as he's forced to sit through the |
29127s | torture of Astor Law's animation while |
29130s | solid Alibi is in play uh a Bryce smile |
29133s | to the camera lets us know he's just as |
29136s | aware of as we are of how unlikely this |
29138s | is to work |
29140s | Nightshade bud that's not the card you |
29143s | need in Miracle priest |
29145s | and neither of these |
29148s | one final shot on hazy |
29151s | foreign |
29156s | that's not gonna do it and dead drop is |
29159s | going to the Grand finals of the 2022 |
29163s | Hearthstone World Championships I could |
29165s | not be happier for the man he deserves |
29168s | it so much |
29169s | yeah and in some ways |
29172s | normally the pressure Starts Now about |
29174s | is the final oh my goodness I've got to |
29176s | win I mean the world final because he's |
29178s | playing its bunny Hopper and obviously |
29180s | both of them will absolutely want to be |
29182s | the Hearthstone world champion but |
29183s | because it's those two in the final |
29186s | we might see a very free very well |
29189s | played not quite so tense final as |
29191s | normal because they are very good |
29192s | friends they're very close teammates |
29193s | they work together all year and if it's |
29196s | the same as Glory possession last year |
29198s | to some degree if I'm gonna lose the |
29199s | final Derek I want to lose it to you |
29201s | you know |
29203s | my friend Dalek and they're in that spot |
29205s | there obviously the pressure's on to win |
29207s | there's a lot of money there's a title |
29208s | on the line there's all that stuff the |
29211s | validation of your peers and everything |
29213s | but the fact is going to be a full-on |
29215s | friendly final is absolutely nutty after |
29218s | this whole year where for the longest |
29220s | time it didn't even look like bunny |
29222s | Hopper would qualify |
29225s | exactly right yeah it's for both of |
29228s | these players over their entire careers |
29230s | being the biggest of roller coasters |
29233s | constant ups and downs constant |
29235s | victories near victories uh for dead |
29238s | draw in particular but unable to close |
29239s | out the biggest of titles as close as |
29242s | they both may have come Time After Time |
29245s | and uh |
29247s | that's not right we'll get that fixed |
29249s | shortly it is Dead trying the finals not |
29251s | Levick apologies for that but uh hey who |
29254s | do you know with dead draw going through |
29256s | I didn't think that on December 18th uh |
29260s | the UK or England I suppose would be |
29262s | represented in a world championship |
29264s | final in this setting but we'll take |
29267s | what we can get Lorinda yeah and this is |
29269s | the one we are going to be watching as |
29271s | well so we got the right one all along |
29273s | as well |
29276s | um it is possibly coming home in the |
29278s | most important of ways in Hearthstone |
29282s | yeah I'm excited even if the graphic |
29285s | isn't but the graphic's so excited it's |
29287s | just under stress it's so excited it's |
29290s | wrong that's the the name of the game of |
29292s | hearthstone Esports especially other |
29294s | casting desk at least uh but yeah for |
29296s | Dedra of us bunny Hopper |
29298s | I cannot Express I know I've said it so |
29301s | many times how excited I am for both of |
29303s | these players they work so goddamn hard |
29306s | to get to this point they are so good at |
29308s | the game they make it look so easy |
29310s | because they work so hard two of the |
29312s | most tireless players in uh competitive |
29315s | Hearthstone I mean you can see I've been |
29317s | blooming kicking my camera around on my |
29319s | foot which is why I'm disappearing off |
29320s | into the void uh on the right hand side |
29322s | there but again |
29325s | hard enough you'll just appear in the |
29327s | final alongside Levick bunny |
29330s | as well you just get to play it cast it |
29333s | everything in that final just keep |
29335s | kicking that camera there we go |
29337s | corrected uh to have dead draw and like |
29340s | you said Team Liquid double represented |
29342s | in the final guaranteed to have a uh a |
29345s | winner which is cool to see as it's you |
29348s | know one of the teams that has been most |
29349s | long-standing behind Hearthstone and |
29352s | just undeniably has the best team in the |
29354s | world right now |
29356s | yeah I think if you get the top two in |
29358s | the finals yeah yeah I think you've got |
29361s | a claim you've got a claim Derek I think |
29363s | you're right but I I can only we're sort |
29365s | of echoing each other at this point |
29366s | we're both so excited to see these two |
29368s | in the finals that we didn't hide any of |
29371s | us that we had a little bit of bias |
29372s | towards the players that a special I |
29375s | think who has just missed out so many |
29378s | times because the way the system was |
29379s | built wasn't built to hurt him but the |
29382s | fact he didn't quit when |
29384s | he won things at the wrong times he was |
29386s | winning enough things to get there and |
29388s | every time he's like just after the |
29389s | cutoff or just too late for this cut off |
29391s | and then the next cutoff happens he wins |
29393s | a game and yeah I think we're just happy |
29395s | to see him have his chance to be the |
29397s | world champion and I'm so excited I |
29400s | think it's time that I stopped talking |
29401s | we go to a break and we set up the world |
29404s | championship final for you for 2022 just |
29408s | cannot wait we'll see you in just a few |
29409s | minutes |
29411s | [Music] |
29427s | okay I've got buddy here and I'm ready |
29429s | to ask him some questions to see how |
29431s | knowledgeable he is on so is a |
29433s | competitive Hearthstone so first off |
29436s | Bunny at what was levick's Swiss record |
29439s | in the first three Masters tours of the |
29442s | year was it a 17-7 b 18 and 6 C 19 and 5 |
29451s | or D 20 and 4. |
29455s | foreign |
29460s | but because Levick Swiss record so he |
29463s | did make playoffs so I mean obviously it |
29466s | has to be 17 or better I think |
29468s | tiebreakers were at 17. did Levick play |
29471s | tiebreakers tons of people play |
29472s | tiebreakers |
29475s | um |
29479s | I'm gonna have to rush you for an answer |
29480s | I don't think he played tiebreakers I'm |
29482s | gonna say I'm gonna say 18 points oh it |
29486s | was saying 19 and five across three |
29489s | Masters tours very very close uh okay |
29491s | next question |
29493s | um this is a good one in how many |
29495s | seasons of the European Grand Masters |
29497s | did bunny Hopper have a negative win |
29500s | rate was it a zero B one C two or D3 |
29509s | so how many seasons did you have |
29510s | negative win rates |
29512s | I really get it once right so I must |
29514s | have had a negative win rate in that one |
29517s | um what did I do I made playoffs |
29520s | playoffs |
29524s | relegated |
29525s | and then the ones the one |
29528s | where I actually had to go on tiebreaker |
29530s | matches |
29531s | but that one was like two-tiered there |
29534s | there I think in the first part I did |
29536s | find and then the second part I went |
29537s | three and four so I think the answer is |
29539s | I added two I went negative and two of |
29542s | them I think too too harsh on yourself |
29544s | bunny the answer was B one it was only |
29547s | one season you went negative overall |
29549s | apparently overall I think but there's |
29552s | like this there was this thing where we |
29554s | went we had two tiers where we went |
29556s | first and upper and lower Division and |
29558s | then I think in the second part where I |
29560s | got into the lower Division and the |
29561s | upper division there I was negative that |
29564s | part of the season but the overall |
29565s | season I was positive anyway you can |
29567s | find you can file any complaints over to |
29570s | Lorinda for any of these questions or |
29572s | answers anyway moving on next question |
29574s | how many matches did dead draw win in |
29577s | Masters tours in 2019 and 2020 combined |
29584s | 52 |
29586s | 55 |
29587s | 58 or 61. |
29591s | dead dragon |
29594s | um |
29595s | well obviously no idea uh |
29599s | he didn't so what was it 2020 in 2021 |
29602s | right that's what they like 2019 and |
29605s | 2020. oh 2019 and 20. it was the the |
29609s | sort of the years he did well and missed |
29611s | right yeah but we also had that was also |
29613s | the years where we applied best of three |
29615s | Specialists with 10 rounds per |
29618s | tournament so that's not actually |
29620s | directly it doesn't matter bunny the |
29623s | format doesn't matter yeah yeah but it's |
29625s | like likely it's more likely you get |
29627s | more wins then it just makes more sense |
29628s | I'm gonna say 58. it's actually 58 yeah |
29632s | c58 congratulations that was a good |
29634s | answer I would not have guessed that |
29635s | myself I didn't already know okay well |
29637s | that's one point for you so far bunny |
29639s | the next question which player had the |
29642s | highest all-time win percentage in APAC |
29646s | Grand Masters is it Mighty surrender |
29650s | possessy or glory |
29654s | in APAC Grand Masters yeah highest |
29658s | all-time win percentage |
29661s | like |
29664s | including playoffs and everything just |
29666s | everything I've read the question yeah |
29669s | yeah okay I understand it's just me it's |
29673s | so funny if it's mighty |
29675s | but I'm just not gonna believe that one |
29678s | um wow shade Throne I mean we have two |
29682s | world champions there and surrender |
29685s | um |
29686s | like that's not disrespect to my team |
29688s | but comparing yourself to Two World |
29689s | Champs and surrender |
29692s | [Music] |
29692s | um |
29695s | I'm just going to say surrender because |
29697s | he used to own he used to own so hard |
29699s | the first three seasons of GM he just |
29702s | stomped everybody it made them look like |
29704s | complete Noobs |
29706s | I'm gonna say surrender |
29708s | I agree with you as that those |
29710s | statements are true but it's actually |
29712s | Mighty because it's win rate and those |
29714s | three players have played a lot of GM |
29715s | matches Mighty went 11 and 4 I believe |
29719s | for a 73 win rate so because it was when |
29723s | percentages are not games played it's |
29725s | where that one falls down just a little |
29727s | bit and finally funny and for the last |
29730s | question what is possesses match win |
29733s | rate in Masters tours |
29737s | 57.2 percent |
29740s | 59.2 percent |
29743s | 61.2 or 63.2 percent |
29750s | hmm |
29751s | [Music] |
29756s | and again it was just match win rate in |
29758s | Masters tours full stop yeah like all |
29761s | the time |
29763s | um |
29766s | it's win rate it's not like I think it's |
29768s | like not under the top top uh Masters to |
29772s | win rate players |
29773s | but |
29776s | I'm just gonna say 59 because I think |
29781s | it |
29782s | seems seems reasonable I know the top |
29785s | top performers |
29787s | um were XC and Lee |
29790s | um but yeah that is completely |
29792s | irrelevant to this question okay well |
29795s | the correct answer is actually |
29797s | 61.2 without I believe a 93 to 59 uh |
29802s | winter loss so um uh really impressive |
29805s | uh score over the overall for possessive |
29808s | uh Bunny Hop unfortunately got one |
29809s | question right but honestly these |
29812s | questions were really hard so regardless |
29815s | uh thanks a lot for your time and I wish |
29816s | you best luck at Worlds thank you |
29820s | [Music] |
29840s | [Music] |
29851s | [Music] |
29857s | [Music] |
29886s | all right |
29898s | [Music] |
29903s | all right |
29922s | foreign |
29931s | [Music] |
29944s | [Music] |
29952s | foreign |
29971s | [Music] |
29984s | [Music] |
29995s | thank you |
29999s | [Music] |
30011s | [Music] |
30020s | foreign |
30022s | [Music] |
30028s | foreign |
30030s | welcome back to the Hearthstone World |
30034s | Championship we're about to jump into |
30036s | the grand finals my name is TJ I'm |
30039s | joined by Neil Lorinda Bond Bill casting |
30042s | your first world championship ever how |
30044s | you feeling |
30045s | great TJ I've got a great one to cast as |
30049s | well with the team liquid final honestly |
30051s | I'd have been happy for Levick to get |
30052s | there as well but dead draw bunny Hopper |
30054s | it's probably the final one I've just |
30056s | selected at the start of the tournament |
30058s | there's several people I want in here |
30060s | but you can't get a better one than this |
30061s | I don't think no I mean it's also to the |
30065s | players that have played the most |
30066s | cleanly uh so far throughout the weekend |
30069s | and have brought lineups that just seem |
30072s | Next Level right |
30074s | um and very very similar at that so we |
30078s | do have a different band strategy coming |
30080s | in however with dead drop painting the |
30083s | Rogue away from bunny Hopper but bunny |
30084s | Hopper Banning away the Mage uh from |
30087s | dead draw so even though both players |
30089s | coming in uh with the same strategy |
30091s | going away with different strategies on |
30094s | the bands |
30096s | um and before we jump into that Neil I |
30098s | do want to just uh clarify something uh |
30100s | to the viewers Neil and I are casting |
30103s | right now for the grand finals but we're |
30105s | actually going to be rotating through |
30108s | all the casters throughout the grand |
30110s | finals from game to game |
30112s | so uh should be fun uh just a nice cool |
30115s | way for us to finish out the year and |
30118s | because we couldn't decide who should |
30120s | get the cast that last uh that last |
30123s | World Championship match so |
30125s | um just so you're not lost if you hear |
30127s | mine and Neil's voice now but then some |
30130s | other people's voices later that's |
30132s | what's gonna happen but now we can talk |
30134s | about Hearthstone once again with that |
30135s | out of the way Neil when the casting |
30137s | goes downhill you know we've switched |
30139s | out and they've brought in soft little |
30141s | Raven or Derek or one of one of those |
30142s | people you know that's how it's working |
30144s | out something like that something like |
30146s | that |
30147s | all right so the Mage and the Rogue ban |
30149s | automatic because it's basically a |
30151s | mirror match uh 4v4 and the Mage versus |
30154s | Rogue the first thing you do is look at |
30156s | the match on its own so the Mage versus |
30159s | Rogue potential rematch of the the Decks |
30162s | that were left up uh is a way of judging |
30165s | who got a win obviously it's a lot |
30167s | deeper than that there's a lot more in |
30169s | it but I feel that getting rid of the |
30172s | Rogue |
30173s | is is the lose out of those two |
30177s | personally but it's really close |
30178s | obviously |
30180s | they're both kind of decks that can beat |
30182s | just about anything but rely on a little |
30185s | bit of help you know like I feel like |
30188s | Mage maybe gets that done more often but |
30190s | at the same time it depends on the |
30192s | match-up right |
30194s | um so I think that uh if you think about |
30197s | it that way you just either one is a |
30201s | reasonable ban in the situation |
30204s | it's just do you get the right match up |
30205s | for the deck that's left up the deck |
30207s | that you leave up right so |
30210s | um like I think the Mage is maybe a |
30212s | little bit more manageable for the Demon |
30214s | Hunter than the Rogue is uh at times |
30217s | yeah just seemed to be the bane of demon |
30219s | Hunter's existence up until this point |
30221s | where Mage can just have a bunch of dead |
30224s | stuff in hand and just never be able to |
30226s | get there they don't go fast enough and |
30228s | they have a lot of Jank and a 40 card |
30230s | deck |
30231s | um whereas Rogue much more consistently |
30233s | hits disruption they have a ton of it so |
30236s | I think that's one of the things to |
30237s | consider in in evaluating commands like |
30241s | this where |
30243s | um you could look at the percentages not |
30245s | find a difference but just hope you get |
30246s | the right matchups right away we're |
30247s | going to go into a mage versus uh yeah |
30250s | and uh I mean this one just seems so |
30253s | Mage favored |
30255s | um uh the priest does have some game |
30257s | right you have a you have a good amount |
30259s | of time it's a long while before the |
30262s | Mage finds usually a long while before |
30264s | the Mage finds the dong grasp gets the |
30266s | hero power ramped up and there is a lot |
30269s | of disruption in this priest deck uh |
30271s | talking plague spreaders uh in order to |
30275s | um try and hit some of those uh key |
30277s | minions like uh like more trash |
30281s | um |
30281s | and uh brand Reckless Apprentice right |
30285s | the things that give give the Mage that |
30286s | little bit of additional burst uh |
30288s | towards the end of the game the |
30289s | finishing damage |
30291s | yeah and so with that in mind bunny |
30293s | Hopper will be hiding those in his Deck |
30295s | with this Mulligan to make sure that |
30297s | there's the minimum chance of being |
30299s | plagued uh because there are cards that |
30302s | later you can just play off the top of |
30304s | your deck if needed so he'll be hoping |
30306s | to dodge those for a few turns just play |
30309s | very basic setting up Hearthstone and |
30312s | this is a bit more than that he's |
30312s | actually going to be able to get a |
30314s | pretty decent curve going considering |
30316s | this mage deck doesn't really do a |
30318s | pretty decent curve a lot of the time |
30320s | yeah and the big thing about this curve |
30322s | is that it's just draw right it's cards |
30324s | that are putting things on the board but |
30325s | also replacing themselves in the hand |
30328s | um which is what you need there's |
30330s | there's no fatigue in this matchup you |
30332s | really just want to find as many |
30333s | resources as possible and this is a hand |
30336s | that lets you do that obviously the |
30337s | solid Alibi is not going to be great but |
30339s | everything else is a welcome sight for |
30342s | bunny Hopper at this point and dead |
30344s | draws man it's not bad it's just a bunch |
30348s | of minions to play up the curve which is |
30350s | oftentimes the best thing you can do |
30352s | against Mage so oh Neil |
30355s | getting that jittery feeling of the the |
30357s | last match of the year you know |
30359s | absolutely and already obviously this |
30363s | one looks like this first game is is a |
30367s | very favorite for bunny Hopper as you |
30368s | have declared but especially with the |
30370s | draw he's got but it'll be a while to |
30373s | see it unfold and the priest isn't just |
30374s | going to roll over and die it has a lot |
30376s | of time to to try and make a plan happen |
30380s | or maybe get one turn where it dumps |
30382s | load of stuff maybe bunny Hopper has to |
30384s | fire a box and it goes wrong there's |
30387s | things that can happen here but for now |
30391s | uh we're just in those opening exchanges |
30394s | and this could take a while |
30396s | to really open up |
30398s | yep |
30399s | love the desperate prayer drown doesn't |
30401s | really have that many good targets for |
30402s | the deck and the main limiting factor |
30405s | for priest I feel in this matchup |
30407s | especially as it goes on is Health right |
30411s | once Don grasp is online once the pings |
30413s | start coming in you really just need |
30415s | time because the Mage will gas out of |
30417s | resources and just have to rely on the |
30419s | hero power for a lot of things and the |
30421s | priest will oftentimes never run out of |
30423s | resources but just don't have enough |
30425s | Mana slash health |
30427s | to put enough stuff on the board to end |
30430s | the game so desperate prayer not often |
30432s | picked from those discover effects like |
30433s | that in non-agura matchups but I do like |
30437s | the choice from dead draw here |
30442s | yeah sorry just slightly distracted |
30445s | there just for a second |
30447s | um the thing we saw in the priest mirror |
30450s | was the inability to really present |
30452s | anything threatening against some sort |
30454s | of control obviously the mirror is the |
30455s | extreme case but the Mage has so much |
30457s | control |
30459s | after about turn six onwards when you |
30461s | can start blizzarding and polymorphing |
30463s | that |
30465s | I don't see how dead draw realistically |
30467s | gets anything threatening unless |
30470s | amulets like get your ambulance to two |
30473s | or three and just play them straight |
30476s | after each other and then generate some |
30477s | more and do it again |
30481s | sister's phone is for right yeah exactly |
30483s | a lot of minions in the deck it's it's |
30485s | you know not just as simple as oh you |
30487s | get a mass polymorph and then you're |
30488s | good to go |
30491s | um bunny Hopper already flooding the |
30492s | board here there is a clean the scene |
30494s | however to be able to clean things up |
30496s | there's also zyrella now with the |
30498s | desperate prayer |
30500s | uh which is going to be a huge swing |
30502s | potentially uh for dead draw at least |
30504s | for this early board but the game it's |
30505s | not really about the early board for |
30508s | bunny Hopper because like I said all of |
30510s | these cards that have been played are |
30512s | have had secondary effects they drew |
30515s | spells into the hand and |
30517s | reduce the cost of spells in the hand |
30519s | you know so this is dead draw having to |
30522s | react not dead draw you know taking lead |
30525s | right but also if bunny Hopper had come |
30528s | in for 10 damage here like that would |
30530s | have just been a bonus content right |
30532s | he's fine with this |
30534s | just um |
30537s | residual damage would have been lovely |
30539s | to get an extra 10 in there |
30541s | and now it's irritating for him but they |
30543s | are going to put these irritating boards |
30544s | but with both of them on 40 Health to |
30546s | start with uh especially the prettiest |
30548s | we should just keep going back to 40 |
30549s | Health repeatedly the Mage will need to |
30552s | look after his health total a little bit |
30553s | I guess that's one thing dead draw can |
30556s | try and do is just chip this damage down |
30558s | three here two there six there and |
30561s | find a way to somehow sneak damage |
30564s | through for lethal but you can see how |
30565s | hard it's going to be with all this |
30566s | freeze available for the mage |
30569s | especially as he wrote to be forced to |
30571s | play his Alibis for a million turns and |
30574s | then if Deadpool ever does set up some |
30576s | scary board for one or two turns they |
30578s | just play your Alibis and save the day |
30580s | yeah |
30588s | could be a solid opportunity to get the |
30590s | plague spreader down |
30592s | um not guaranteed to have any minions or |
30595s | even any or any relevant minions |
30602s | but if you can hurt Bunny's curve along |
30605s | the way or stop anything from happening |
30607s | usually the earlier you can get those |
30608s | Blake's Butters down the better |
30611s | yeah absolutely like like I was saying |
30613s | like like you said in the interior as |
30614s | well you can't catch a more dress after |
30617s | about turn nine because they're just |
30619s | gonna jam it on the board when they draw |
30621s | it so |
30622s | the only way to catch it is |
30625s | now |
30631s | so one more turn I guess maximum chance |
30633s | for bunny Hopper to have that in hand I |
30635s | know there's other targets to catch as |
30637s | well but that'll be the main one right |
30638s | that's that's a chunk of damage |
30641s | play the place better on seven so you're |
30642s | going into the turn seven of the |
30644s | opponent |
30646s | you know it's okay |
30652s | we should acknowledge that this board |
30653s | exists TJ this board exists 15 a damage |
30657s | of attack on the board for dead draw |
30659s | I have a body hamper is begging for an |
30662s | excuse to play his cards so yeah |
30665s | I think it's all right |
30667s | very likely that um even just a blizzard |
30670s | will clear everything off this turn |
30673s | yeah what do you polymorph what are the |
30674s | polymorph targets for bunny |
30677s | um spirit guide plague spreader |
30680s | anything that give resources or you |
30682s | don't want to be resurrected uh like |
30684s | chair Elemento could be a good one |
30686s | because if you get rid of the lightshow |
30687s | elemental |
30689s | you don't have to worry about that |
30690s | healing later from amulets right |
30692s | but that could be reasonable that's what |
30695s | I was going with the question that's |
30697s | that's what I was wondering if you turn |
30698s | this into a sheep and then it's like |
30699s | okay that's quite a lot of damage you've |
30701s | just done like 18 damage or 12 damage |
30703s | you've just done to Deadpool kind of in |
30706s | a weird way yeah |
30707s | in a raven sort of way |
30710s | yep |
30713s | and now with that out of the way |
30716s | world is your oyster here |
30719s | I must do that either plague spreader or |
30722s | Spirit guides |
30726s | um however one one thing to note is just |
30728s | because the mat the uh Mass polymorphous |
30731s | cast doesn't mean that there's not a |
30733s | second one in the deck and also a third |
30734s | potential one for Magister Don graphs so |
30741s | oh dear horses there |
30748s | well |
30752s | other the face lines are also act on it |
30754s | I must consider yes we know priest we |
30756s | know |
30758s | been doing it for years |
30763s | here we go |
30765s | time to spread some play |
30768s | they let him out the house |
30775s | is that a tongue hanging out it is right |
30780s | the plague spreader |
30782s | sure |
30785s | excuse me |
30788s | no that's one long pink tooth just just |
30793s | one tooth just this is how he eats look |
30796s | at all these sheep |
30799s | you might get my tooth into one of those |
30800s | sheep |
30801s | look at my giant pig tooth into that |
30804s | sheep |
30807s | ah |
30812s | everybody hope for spending the first 30 |
30813s | seconds recoiling in horror that thought |
30817s | that TJ's just throwing out there |
30824s | I don't even know what you want to do |
30827s | yeah poker |
30837s | I like the way the first decision is do |
30839s | I stop a damage or do I take an accident |
30841s | or do an extra damage |
30843s | yep uh this makes sense |
30847s | and got that available again as soon as |
30849s | he wants to turn other things into sheep |
30851s | yep |
30853s | can't get the plague if you're a sheep |
30859s | that's not medical advice by the way |
30863s | I'll make that clear |
30871s | yeah I feel the same way about what do |
30874s | you do |
30876s | players just have like these hands that |
30880s | are just like |
30881s | a bunch of nothing |
30884s | yeah |
30885s | they're not going to Mars with these |
30887s | hands for a while |
30889s | Pedro's gonna see okay I can put the |
30891s | miter now I've seen Mass polymorph and a |
30894s | parrot into Mass polymorph |
30897s | and that's just gonna be another parrot |
30899s | it's gonna be another power and then I |
30901s | mean he at that point he won't come seed |
30904s | but he's pretty close to just having to |
30906s | come seed at that point |
30907s | I know but I'm just saying it's like |
30910s | we're gonna have then 30 minutes of dead |
30912s | draw not conceding because he might win |
30915s | the game of hearthstone I mean bunny |
30916s | Hopper Don grass could be way down the |
30918s | bottom of the deck it's so much more |
30921s | important to the gameplay than the Mage |
30922s | than Midas |
30925s | the priest right so yeah |
30931s | Ops to go for the spirit guidance said |
30933s | however Arkansas intellect that's a very |
30936s | welcome draw |
30938s | for bunny Hopper I think you play it and |
30940s | then it's fluffy if you if you're bored |
30945s | I might even go Arcane in elect well |
30948s | first you evaluate the draw |
30951s | which is not good right about now and |
30954s | then evoker yeah I don't think you |
30956s | really need to |
30957s | oh you can flurry at the end of this but |
30960s | especially getting six you don't really |
30963s | have to worry about this five damage too |
30964s | much |
30965s | I guess |
30966s | yeah I'm being overprotective with my 41 |
30969s | health I guess |
30970s | yeah |
30972s | there's a lot more armor to be gained in |
30974s | this match uh for bunny Hopper |
30979s | yeah there it is cold case still another |
30980s | evoker still managed to Don grasp and |
30983s | the ability to recast it still Runes of |
30986s | the archmage for ice barriers cold cases |
30991s | when you heard it like that what was |
30993s | them that draws threats oh yeah he's got |
30994s | one of all the things that have already |
30995s | been mass-pollied and he's got one more |
30997s | of them all so yeah again there's always |
31000s | sisters fall now as well which yes |
31003s | is probably the biggest threat because |
31005s | it's infinite threat essentially it's |
31007s | infinite slow threats yeah scorpion come |
31011s | on |
31015s | quickly |
31017s | just shaking his head okay killing it |
31020s | off I like this actually light that |
31022s | burns not really going to have many |
31024s | great Targets on either side you have |
31025s | plenty of other removal to deal with big |
31027s | stuff absolutely hit that into the death |
31030s | rattle pool and gonna get the might eye |
31033s | out but that's probably going to be |
31034s | another signal for I'll find how pretty |
31037s | just go Mass polymorph Make It Stop TJ |
31040s | it's just polymorphing everything into |
31042s | sheep |
31046s | just absolute sheepstone at this point |
31050s | yeah dead was unimpressed but |
31053s | unsurprised |
31059s | I mean you've got to get out yeah |
31061s | there's no reason to play the round of |
31063s | fall yeah okay |
31066s | yeah we talked about yala many times oh |
31069s | there it is that's the one |
31073s | that's the one |
31076s | though |
31081s | kind of like me oh you can even undying |
31084s | allies in svalner |
31087s | I mean |
31088s | sure |
31093s | illumination is better |
31097s | place better too late he's going for the |
31100s | amulet has anything actually died at the |
31102s | moment is it just your sheepstone God |
31105s | oh yeah he killed his own spirit guide |
31106s | good point yep |
31112s | oh my |
31121s | no way yeah how voker and hope for ruin |
31124s | at this point get some research yeah |
31126s | flurry oh no |
31128s | oh this hand just does nothing it just |
31132s | does nothing but it does it for so long |
31135s | TJ yeah but like you're you're gaining |
31140s | zero ground in the match-up by Blue this |
31143s | is not a deck you're going to run out of |
31144s | resources stalling doesn't really work |
31147s | against priests because they they want |
31150s | to stall so by stalling you're playing |
31152s | right into their game plan |
31155s | though it's like you know |
31158s | you're just you're spending a blizzard |
31160s | for nothing because you don't want to |
31162s | take the damage and there's nothing else |
31163s | you can do you're spending a flurry for |
31165s | nothing |
31168s | I mean it was on three interesting to |
31170s | see how long he holds on to that |
31174s | I mean it's free so |
31179s | it'll stay free even once you trade it |
31181s | back |
31181s | do you want it to go up to seven or five |
31184s | or six or is three enough that's kind of |
31186s | where I'm at without there there's |
31187s | another one in this for later |
31188s | it seems in the priest mirrors right |
31191s | we've seen four be the uh yes the magic |
31195s | number |
31199s | TJ being the premier priest expert now |
31202s | in the mirror because he's cast both |
31205s | times it's ever happened in championship |
31206s | play |
31207s | yep |
31209s | because he's just that lucky a whopping |
31212s | two hours and 10 minutes of priest |
31214s | mirrors that's right oh the second was |
31216s | it now and ten yeah uh an hour and |
31220s | no it wasn't quite uh I thought the |
31223s | first one was an hour and 20 minutes |
31224s | maybe I'll oh okay I thought you know |
31225s | it's now exactly but maybe the one we |
31228s | cast in earlier today was like 40 45 |
31231s | minutes was somebody actually won the |
31233s | game where somebody actually cast the |
31234s | other day the game just didn't ever and |
31237s | it might still be going Rumor Has It |
31244s | all right but he's just chipping away at |
31246s | these minions preserving the blizzards |
31248s | preserving the flowies because there's |
31249s | TJ rightly says they don't really get |
31251s | you anything they just passed the turn |
31252s | whereas this |
31254s | evolves a tutu onto the board |
31257s | because that's how you put things on the |
31258s | board you evolve them onto the board |
31266s | of it |
31273s | those are good probably take undying |
31275s | eyes and just dump it yeah |
31280s | what is he looking for more ambulance I |
31282s | think is actually a thing carve the |
31284s | grave yep |
31286s | that's the big one uh Thrive could be |
31290s | okay Joe boydshard can be okay |
31293s | identity Theta can sometimes be okay |
31296s | though you really need to think about |
31298s | hand space |
31305s | yeah just steal the the Magister and |
31308s | Dawn glass we just ping them before they |
31310s | ping you easy game |
31315s | 18 cards left in deck and the 18 cards |
31318s | that are left in deck are all of the |
31320s | good cards |
31325s | I said what do you mean it is Finley |
31327s | right now then to get turn all these |
31329s | into the things that are better no |
31331s | seriously not you dead draw |
31334s | like both wildfires Finley astalor |
31337s | Arcanine like brand Reckless safaric |
31341s | Cold Case Don Grass more dress Rune like |
31345s | that those are the cards that are in |
31346s | this bottom 18. it really doesn't need |
31350s | carrots and |
31353s | blizzard always have parrots John Alibis |
31355s | both flurries he gets it offensive card |
31359s | surely this is good it gives him a wing |
31361s | condition |
31366s | surely this is good yeah also gets solid |
31369s | alibi |
31371s | oh |
31375s | you dumped the second desperate prayer |
31376s | yeah I just dump it |
31379s | two visions in hand oh my gosh we're the |
31383s | Mage now TJ kind of uh so it stays there |
31387s | even if you cast it from dawn grasp |
31392s | I mean that makes sense given the logic |
31395s | of how we've seen Vision used but |
31400s | I don't know how relevant this feels |
31402s | super relevant I don't know how relevant |
31404s | it actually is but it feels really |
31405s | important to me that now Deadpool can |
31407s | actually just ping bunny to death where |
31409s | buddy hasn't drawn any of his relevant |
31410s | cards |
31412s | yep |
31415s | get him |
31421s | ping the skeleton go up to three |
31423s | actually what do you start on with Dawn |
31425s | graspber's priest I have no idea |
31428s | it's fine then pin go to three yeah do |
31431s | it |
31453s | well |
31459s | I thought I brought up a good point yeah |
31461s | I'm actually checked we've both been |
31463s | quite at the same point so I'm assuming |
31464s | you're doing the same thing because dead |
31467s | draw is now a mage no there aren't any |
31471s | so if there's none |
31475s | you would discover priest spells still |
31478s | no that doesn't make any sense |
31482s | it was uncastable |
31483s | don't know gotta be honest don't know if |
31486s | there's none |
31490s | remove it |
31494s | or one was mass polymorphed the other |
31497s | removed from the game that was a |
31500s | fantastic Rune of the archmage holy moly |
31504s | got the Arcane Defenders a counter spell |
31507s | explosive runes |
31510s | excuse me yep |
31514s | we're gonna find out how this works now |
31516s | well it's a counter spell so get this |
31519s | out of my hand |
31523s | I cast it so we can |
31526s | yeah |
31529s | for science |
31530s | there's only a hundred thousand dollars |
31532s | or something on the line just just cast |
31534s | it |
31538s | huh |
31544s | yeah can you get pre-spells yeah |
31547s | cool |
31550s | [Laughter] |
31552s | so it Carries On |
31556s | oh geez |
31559s | Vic wait no you can |
31564s | yeah |
31565s | can you also get other Shadow spells |
31568s | though but now that you've like become |
31570s | the Mage now that you're a mage can you |
31573s | get Shadow spells from other classes |
31575s | don't see why not |
31577s | you see other classes if you want to |
31578s | right |
31582s | that's reasonable |
31584s | unless the identity of the the Spells |
31588s | you're discovering is not determined by |
31590s | the hero and it's instead determined by |
31592s | the actual Vision since it works |
31593s | differently than a lot of spells because |
31595s | it's always there right it's in this |
31597s | yeah Perpetual State technically that |
31600s | spell is still the same spell that was |
31602s | there when he was a priest |
31604s | okay that's my that's my my goodbye into |
31608s | any of these arguments at this point I'm |
31609s | just going to sit there and see what |
31610s | happens |
31616s | yeah we'll see |
31618s | yeah |
31620s | in a minute it was just off a fireball |
31621s | and we won't have a clue what's |
31622s | happening |
31625s | yeah it looks like it's still increased |
31627s | okay well peace cards are good yep so it |
31630s | looks like the identity of the uh |
31633s | um |
31634s | the class is tied to the card and not to |
31636s | the uh |
31637s | that's fine I think that's probably okay |
31642s | we don't want any um Shadow Boxing |
31644s | anyway right |
31650s | sunsets |
31655s | ground time |
31660s | because if it was any class he'd be |
31662s | offered a bunch of other ones |
31665s | yeah I would have seen something already |
31666s | yeah we would have seen it we would have |
31668s | seen a dead warlock warlock spells yeah |
31672s | I think there's even more death knight |
31673s | Shadow spells oh wow okay |
31677s | but would have seen both TJ were both |
31679s | right all right yeah we're both right |
31682s | always maybe not there's also Shaman |
31683s | ones now |
31685s | you could discover this if that was true |
31687s | you could discover the scourge which |
31689s | would be naughty |
31693s | so yeah I think it's only priest all |
31696s | right all right here's Dawn grasp |
31700s | a little late but better late than never |
31701s | down to 10 cards left in the deck |
31704s | to three quarters of the deck already |
31707s | stay where you are and both play some 40 |
31711s | health |
31714s | both players don't grasp this one with |
31717s | infinite heel one with infinite damage |
31719s | yep he's gonna come out on top |
31722s | and that's a beefed up hero power as |
31724s | well |
31726s | got five |
31730s | oh I think it was |
31732s | now it's at five |
31735s | okay |
31741s | I meant the amulet just to be clear you |
31744s | made the door goes got it yeah |
31747s | amulet |
31749s | [Applause] |
31751s | oh nice work |
31756s | love an early interaction just get |
31758s | yourself a five eight |
31760s | okay so this is what |
31762s | um double burning blade acolyte spirit |
31766s | guide |
31769s | yep yep and yep that's it possibly |
31772s | that's it a lot of things got turned to |
31775s | sheep at the start of this game |
31779s | guide |
31780s | sets |
31791s | okay I'm pretty sure that's it |
31794s | double burning blade acolyte |
31798s | oh there's a bone collar one Mana offer |
31799s | being able to be played though |
31802s | phew we have beefed up hero power though |
31804s | now at four Dead Drop five for bunny |
31806s | Hopper |
31811s | let me hop ahead in basically every |
31813s | regard but |
31815s | making the priest into a dawn glass was |
31818s | definitely made this a lot more |
31820s | interesting yeah |
31823s | I don't know how worth it is it is but |
31825s | there is a way to get your hero power |
31827s | buffed once again this turn if you |
31830s | um blizzard Wildfire ping or deathborn |
31834s | Wildfire ping |
31838s | not sure how worth it that is because |
31840s | those are premium resources expecially |
31842s | considering both parrots have already |
31844s | been used |
31845s | that's the wild fight that damage could |
31848s | add up over the course of the game and |
31850s | make it worth it |
31852s | like deathborne's not going to get much |
31853s | value so honestly I wouldn't mind seeing |
31855s | deathborn Place hero power because that |
31857s | hero power now is at six |
31861s | uh it's yeah |
31866s | a bit of Casa Mouse as well both players |
31868s | not wanting to put down anything that's |
31870s | going to um |
31872s | of the opposing here apparently yeah the |
31875s | thing you've just said they are valuing |
31877s | just racing these hero Powers into the |
31880s | sky |
31890s | and now amulet has full value as well |
31893s | because that's the fourth deathrattle |
31894s | minion |
31896s | just don't make this into an eight seven |
31897s | because then bunny Hopper can ping it |
31900s | he was thinking about cathedraling and |
31903s | buffing but that would make it an eight |
31904s | seven you could Cathedral re-summon |
31909s | and then calculations are correct |
31913s | go for it |
31915s | yeah |
31918s | I love the little head shakes that |
31920s | Deadpool does he does this in play tests |
31921s | well I don't know what I'm doing because |
31922s | he's destroying people all the time I |
31924s | don't really know I'm doing this turn |
31925s | bam killed you |
31929s | I was only one burning Place ah yes the |
31931s | first one was not a played it was um |
31935s | coming from the actual call of the Grave |
31937s | right no |
31940s | so where's that on the Dead undead |
31943s | really dead super dead |
31946s | um and vanished |
31949s | Resurrection Spectrum |
31952s | um it's it's a spirit which is in |
31955s | between |
31957s | alive and dead |
31959s | okay |
31964s | I mean I I just assume that everything |
31966s | you say is Canon and if it isn't it the |
31968s | second you say it it becomes Canon so |
31970s | it's fine yeah |
31973s | okay so dead draw uh uses the Finley uh |
31977s | so that gets rid of the vision of |
31979s | Darkness it doesn't get rid of it it's |
31980s | at the bottom of the deck now it's like |
31982s | what the I don't know where it is what |
31985s | was the third to bottom fit the bottom |
31986s | something like that |
31989s | um but gets back a heap of good stuff he |
31992s | knew that the astolore was on the bottom |
31994s | which is the big one because he drowned |
31996s | it yes moments before and had not traded |
31999s | anything into the deck |
32001s | okay and sheep |
32006s | what's the record for number of dead |
32009s | sheep in a game and where are the boxes |
32011s | why aren't we opening boxes I mean the |
32013s | body opened like the sickest box ever |
32015s | earlier that's ages ago we need another |
32018s | box now this is next but it was four |
32021s | turns ago is that all it was I don't |
32023s | know maybe |
32026s | he probably was only like six or seven |
32027s | turns ago to be fair |
32032s | I think it's time for a place better |
32033s | right |
32037s | I think it's time |
32045s | only it's not |
32048s | yeah go play people go |
32056s | foreign |
32062s | going back to that turn a hundred turns |
32065s | ago |
32066s | um |
32067s | where bunny Hopper killed the elemental |
32069s | to cut off the healing there's such a |
32071s | big difference now you can see we said |
32073s | at the time that's a lot of damage now |
32074s | you're starting to see how Deadpool |
32075s | really could do without being in that |
32077s | resurrect pool |
32078s | yep |
32081s | it's a very good death porn though |
32082s | deathborne and then frees the plague |
32084s | spreader |
32086s | with the location |
32088s | yeah |
32100s | starting to get to the position where |
32101s | he's setting up quite a lot of damage |
32103s | all the time with more dress in hand and |
32106s | yeah stay away |
32107s | so far so savara is Mass pymorph |
32112s | um it's Mass probably more flurry and |
32115s | deathborne |
32118s | you know yep |
32123s | which is nice very nice |
32130s | the sunset |
32133s | well that is in Norway so it's probably |
32135s | been set for a few months now |
32148s | each turn is getting harder and harder |
32151s | for dead draw to sort of do something |
32153s | that's impactfully still got it for now |
32155s | but this is likely going to kill the |
32158s | plague spreader |
32159s | yep |
32162s | is he gonna hit me yep flag spreader |
32165s | gone what got turned |
32167s | on the two Amplified snow flurry nice |
32170s | bunny Hopper Dodge the bullet there |
32173s | with that one |
32175s | um unfortunately no hero power targets |
32178s | available |
32180s | with the way everything went |
32182s | it was here part eight |
32184s | I think there's seven or eight it's |
32186s | definitely Beyond 60 weeks I saw him |
32188s | think seven yeah we saw him hit a six |
32191s | yeah and then we joked about making the |
32193s | six six into an eight seven so funny but |
32195s | I don't think he's killed a seven yeah |
32196s | that's seven yeah but this is a whole |
32199s | chunk of damage funny Hopper this is |
32202s | gonna set up a two-turn lethal |
32204s | um that's gonna be enough damage to put |
32205s | dead draw down to 17 and there's no heel |
32209s | hero power so it looks like it's gonna |
32210s | have to be behemoth |
32213s | probably |
32216s | yep can't afford to uh hope that more |
32220s | Rush isn't there |
32221s | at this stage of the game |
32224s | yeah with no healing again we go all the |
32226s | way back to the very start of the game |
32227s | where bunny polymorph to one minion |
32229s | board because it was a good minion to |
32230s | polymorph |
32232s | turning out to be the difference a |
32234s | hundred turns later |
32237s | at the moment at least |
32246s | because now Bunny's kind of just he's |
32248s | buffed his hero power so much it's just |
32250s | three pings away |
32252s | at some point he will just be able to go |
32254s | visual board ping you feature board ping |
32256s | you fusible ping you in theory there's |
32258s | still quite a lot more play for dead |
32260s | draw to |
32261s | go through though yeah |
32266s | I wouldn't even mind seeing like |
32268s | Reckless or no I'm probably more dressed |
32271s | first usually want to use more dress |
32273s | first in these instances because uh |
32275s | Reckless approach is more flexible to be |
32278s | able to react to more things that your |
32279s | opponent is doing but once again putting |
32281s | the pressure on Dead Drop forcing him to |
32283s | heal because there's Reckless apprentice |
32284s | and ping for next turn which is going to |
32286s | be 14 damage so |
32289s | and it doesn't look like dead draw has |
32291s | any way to react there's no light shower |
32293s | Elementals in the death rattle pool |
32296s | s we love which means that Bunny Hop is |
32299s | almost certainly going to take a 1-0 |
32301s | reminder this is the world final |
32303s | game number one is going for a long long |
32305s | time here Reckless Apprentice was hit by |
32308s | the plague spreader |
32314s | and heal from the zyrella okay |
32323s | but now he's in things together |
32326s | this is the third hero power the Dead |
32328s | Rose had this game |
32334s | heck |
32336s | was like get me out what are the other |
32339s | two cards in my deck you know |
32342s | [Laughter] |
32346s | uh it is going to be Reckless Apprentice |
32348s | yeah enough brain Reckless Apprentice |
32349s | bottom two cards wow okay it actually |
32351s | was the bottom two cards oh my gosh |
32353s | great recognition from bunny Hopper uh |
32357s | to be able to uh uh know that that's how |
32359s | that was gonna work because otherwise |
32360s | the thinly not going to be that high in |
32363s | value it would have been good |
32364s | anti-fatigue better than that not great |
32366s | but there you go bunny Hopper is going |
32368s | to take |
32369s | first game of the series one up |
32372s | in the world championship finals very |
32375s | nicely done yeah |
32377s | um no real Shocker on the result of that |
32380s | game of hearthstone uh from the the |
32382s | initial setup you kind of expect the |
32383s | Mage to get that done but the route it |
32385s | took did make it interesting somewhere |
32387s | in the middle you know |
32389s | 2.9 count |
32391s | getting us in there |
32394s | and count come on |
32397s | oh geez too many references uh thus far |
32401s | today but yeah it was a I thought that |
32404s | things might have been a little bit |
32405s | closer with dead draw getting access to |
32406s | manage to draw grass before bunny Hopper |
32409s | found it in time also had the good room |
32412s | with the archmage in there there's just |
32413s | too many like uh resources for the Mage |
32416s | that are are just like straight up |
32419s | damage like more pressure than what a |
32421s | priest can do with a stolen Dawn grasp |
32423s | uh that is just hard to keep up and we |
32426s | could see that in action there I do like |
32428s | how liberally but it used all the uh |
32431s | additional mass polymorphs as well |
32434s | um just make sure there's nothing |
32435s | deathrunner pulls really limit the |
32436s | options uh for dead draw in that game so |
32440s | I just kind of choked him out of that |
32441s | one and uh a clinic on the the made |
32445s | first priest matchup I think |
32447s | yep kept it very very tight there and |
32450s | again just just thought in advance well |
32451s | if things go wrong I need to play |
32453s | accurately at the start obviously it's |
32455s | about Championship final you expect them |
32456s | to play accurately but good job he did |
32458s | because dead draw did manage to pick up |
32461s | that Dawn grasp and get into the game to |
32463s | some degree but bunnies Hopper always |
32464s | had the the bigger hero power always had |
32467s | more control of things and now TJ it's |
32470s | time for the hot tag |
32472s | the hot tag that's right Lauren and I |
32475s | are stepping out so we're gonna throw it |
32477s | over to Raven and Sato for the next game |
32479s | hello hello hello hello |
32481s | yeah I'm joined by subtles we bring you |
32484s | game number two and subtle what a |
32487s | grueling game number one that was |
32488s | between bunny Hopper and dead draw and |
32491s | then we're gonna you know be stuck in |
32492s | such another grueling next match up |
32494s | which is the Demon Hunter mirror |
32497s | yes indeed the heat spot has been long |
32500s | and grueling but I am full of baby face |
32502s | fire right now and this comeback is just |
32505s | beginning more than delighted to be uh |
32508s | stepping in for a world championship |
32510s | final of course as TJ was saying we all |
32512s | just kind of wanted to cast this final |
32514s | and you know what we make the rules so |
32516s | we do we're all gonna pass it back and |
32518s | forth |
32519s | um I hope by the way you are all ready |
32521s | for uh tons of uh hackneyed football |
32524s | references based on what is going on at |
32526s | the moment but I'll try and keep it as |
32528s | focused as I possibly can Demon Hunter |
32530s | versus Demon Hunter it seems like we |
32532s | might have a slightly shorter shift |
32535s | and TJ opened it with yeah yeah and fear |
32539s | not if you don't care about football I |
32541s | will welcome you with open arms and I |
32543s | will call subtle an idiot for you do not |
32545s | worry uh but yeah the Demon Hunter |
32547s | mirror this one it's got to be even |
32550s | though we've talked a lot about you know |
32551s | the the volume of the quest priests in |
32555s | the top four for example and other sort |
32557s | of different brings for me Demon Hunter |
32559s | is still just the the key class of the |
32563s | World Championship this year so reliable |
32565s | so powerful so consistent and here I |
32568s | think the winner of this one is going to |
32570s | be uh you know not a huge deal for the |
32572s | series as I think both players are going |
32574s | to rely on just having a Demon Hunter |
32575s | win at some point but I think the big |
32578s | difference is if bunny Hopper does get |
32579s | the win he does just need that one more |
32582s | game to go his way to seal yeah and it |
32585s | was you know it would be a huge reversal |
32588s | as well because you could see bunny |
32590s | Hopper visibly frustrated when the |
32593s | priest opponent played the dawn grasp |
32595s | before he did right like that's the |
32597s | exact kind of uphill struggle you do not |
32599s | want to be facing in what should be a |
32601s | big favorable for you early on that just |
32603s | managed to stabilize grind back in and |
32605s | normally in that matchup when it does |
32607s | come down to Dawn grass versus Dawn |
32608s | grass as I believe TJ was talking about |
32610s | the uh the actual Mage is going to end |
32613s | up getting there because they have the |
32614s | dawn grass deck right like they're one |
32616s | with the brand and The Reckless |
32617s | apprentice and everything else that goes |
32619s | with it so great comeback and now we're |
32621s | going to reset for another mirror match |
32623s | after The Accidental mirror match of the |
32625s | uh the opening game and as we dive into |
32628s | this mirror subtle is there anything the |
32630s | players actually want to do apart from |
32633s | just do their thing quicker is the game |
32635s | as simple as that because again as I |
32638s | mentioned I think way back on Friday |
32640s | it's like there's Glides or anything in |
32642s | the game anymore to like mess with your |
32644s | opponent so to speak so it is 75 that |
32648s | and that's not to dismiss that decisions |
32650s | don't matter right like yes you are |
32652s | racing you are racing to draw your combo |
32654s | pieces but you can still be more or less |
32656s | efficient in doing that than your |
32658s | opponent right it's just a different |
32659s | skill set |
32660s | um relic of phantasms though to me is |
32663s | one of the most underappreciated let's |
32666s | say under focused on cards in the |
32668s | match-up because I don't think it's |
32669s | important I don't think it's a |
32671s | game-winning card but I do think the |
32673s | timing of it is very important it has |
32676s | Myriad uses in terms of putting stats on |
32679s | the board is one of the very few things |
32680s | you have the put stats on the board to |
32682s | disrupt you know your opponent's fell |
32683s | barrages hitting you in the face or |
32685s | whatever else you can also choose to |
32687s | create pressure on turns so that your |
32689s | opponent can't just uh Quest complete |
32693s | for example right they have to react to |
32694s | the board that you have on the other |
32695s | side or can't just slam a curtress that |
32698s | they've just completed into their hand |
32699s | because they have to focus on clearing |
32701s | up your board so it's disruption it's |
32703s | also this weird layer of Defense because |
32705s | it's the only way you have a putting |
32707s | Minions on board that can actually soak |
32709s | up some fell barrage damage on the other |
32710s | side because without timely Phantasm |
32713s | usage you don't get to Jace in this |
32716s | matchup you just die to spell damage |
32719s | fell barrages if you just sit there and |
32721s | wait yeah because there's no other |
32723s | hurdles as you mentioned right it's just |
32724s | oh how much health does my opponent have |
32726s | how much damage do I have without those |
32728s | Minions on board and we did see bunny |
32730s | Hopper there get a quest completion so |
32732s | not looking good too bad for him |
32734s | especially hitting the Unleashed for |
32736s | zero is always nice and again a couple |
32738s | of good cards hit a dead draw on the |
32741s | other hand of course hasn't got the |
32742s | quest completion quite yet but does have |
32744s | the location down with now a relic of |
32747s | Dimensions out |
32753s | I got a couple of choices it could start |
32755s | with the need for greed cycle or could |
32757s | even just play Need for greed this turn |
32768s | it looks like he's gonna go with the |
32770s | cycle oh |
32772s | yes not exactly what you're looking for |
32774s | this early in the game |
32777s | yeah a little bit awkward |
32781s | choosing to cycle piecemeal though like |
32784s | the big reason why you do this is if any |
32787s | of these three to four draws that you'd |
32789s | get here depending on spectral site or |
32791s | whatever else that you picked up were to |
32793s | find you then relative dimensions for |
32795s | example you'd have no hand size concerns |
32798s | going into the Future Turn and would be |
32799s | able to slam it immediately that's kind |
32802s | of an outsider position in this box you |
32803s | don't even have the Relic Vault down in |
32805s | the first place |
32806s | um but you know similar to the priest |
32809s | mirrors that we've seen But in a much |
32810s | more high octane environment managing |
32813s | hand size is about as important as |
32815s | anything else uh in this particular |
32817s | mirror because you you don't want to |
32819s | have to dump particularly valuable cards |
32821s | if you can just manage your hand size a |
32823s | bit more effectively leading up to that |
32824s | point |
32826s | yeah and again a dead draw getting some |
32829s | good work done here with you well double |
32830s | reduced skill Trader along with that |
32832s | fell barrage and still gonna keep that |
32834s | hand size pretty much full off the draw |
32836s | next turn hey bunyappa though going for |
32838s | Mark of scorn and I think oh no |
32843s | this is not really what you're looking |
32846s | for |
32847s | it is not no yeah okay well you know the |
32851s | reductions on the two silver moons fine |
32855s | again not great but at least they're not |
32857s | just flat three costs right like that is |
32859s | quite a big deal |
32870s | and play the sigil if you want to don't |
32872s | see why not |
32886s | okay both players at least equal in the |
32890s | cost of Jace right now uh regards so |
32893s | they do have the full costs that draw |
32895s | will end up with the seven though right |
32896s | or is this curtress step now has he |
32898s | completed twice already oh no I think |
32901s | wait |
32903s | yeah I think he's on once this is yeah |
32905s | yeah because Bunny's Uncle Chris and the |
32907s | pitch is different |
32909s | right yeah yeah there it is yep okay |
32914s | and now probably a reasonable uh |
32918s | phantasms turn here |
32920s | it was an alternate line in this |
32922s | position where you could just |
32923s | potentially start burning a little bit |
32924s | because that's the flip side sometimes |
32926s | you just start burning your opponent |
32928s | down if you get a particular hand and |
32929s | you deliberately then don't want to play |
32931s | The Relic of phantasms because all |
32933s | you're doing then is adding like plus |
32934s | six plus 12 healing to your opponent by |
32936s | putting Minions on the board in the |
32938s | first one and that's it right by burning |
32939s | them down you don't mean play spell |
32941s | damage no no just start throwing them |
32943s | throw like Fury's or Mark whatever else |
32946s | it is just to do that little bit of Chip |
32947s | damage and then get them in range for |
32949s | the spell damage felbarage on the |
32951s | following turn you can kind of get those |
32952s | two turn setups going sometimes |
32955s | they'll know relic of Dimensions even |
32958s | though bunny would be struggling with |
32960s | hand size at this point as well with the |
32962s | fact that there's just now two locations |
32964s | the the double Silver Moon in hand that |
32966s | isn't really a dumpable card it does |
32969s | have the location plus his own relic of |
32972s | phantasms now which is something you |
32974s | will no doubt be sat thinking about |
32978s | It's Tricky right like right now because |
32980s | bunny doesn't have well I don't know how |
32982s | much does he have yeah surely just |
32985s | Bells won't do it right so because you |
32988s | don't have tons of burst you might want |
32990s | to put the minions so he doesn't get |
32992s | pushed back |
32995s | okay finally |
32999s | I've got actually double location |
33002s | Rock one and Phantasm right |
33005s | that is the vanilla play yes I would |
33008s | agree or whether to be offended |
33014s | okay yeah again yeah I guess that's |
33017s | that's a good default I was just again |
33018s | looking at like say fancy spell barrage |
33021s | yeah yeah and then look at what those |
33023s | relative dimensions hitting specific |
33024s | things on the following term but when |
33026s | you have three spell damage minions |
33027s | costing Mana in your hand already you're |
33029s | probably gonna end up in trouble oh and |
33032s | uh I do believe this yeah |
33036s | coming through with eight damage each |
33038s | from these fell barrages now just |
33040s | closing this one up one two one |
33044s | yeah and just like that like I said I |
33046s | think both players should be confident |
33048s | about getting wins with Demon Hunter but |
33050s | it's just this just relieves some at |
33053s | least even mental pressure here for dead |
33054s | draw knowing that he won't be going zero |
33056s | two down because not only are they both |
33059s | these players of course playing the most |
33060s | important match of hearthstone of their |
33062s | lives but when you're playing it then go |
33065s | oh right I'm just too old like it was |
33066s | zero two you know what I mean I'm like I |
33068s | cannot lose another game that level of |
33070s | pressure has to get to anyone whether |
33073s | you were the best player in the world |
33074s | whether you're experienced or not I |
33076s | don't really care I think it just has to |
33078s | get to them so dead draw even just for |
33080s | his mental game here evening this at 1-1 |
33083s | pretty good point for him here |
33085s | yeah absolutely that now squares us up |
33088s | uh both players have taken down the |
33090s | functional mirror match are good from |
33091s | dead drawer as well because if I've had |
33093s | any questions about dead draw's play so |
33096s | far this tournament it's been on the |
33097s | Demon Hunter a little bit there was that |
33099s | mislethal I believe on day one and he's |
33102s | just a looked a little bit uh |
33104s | momentarily uncertain in some spots with |
33107s | the Demon Hunter although sometimes that |
33109s | is just kind of a vibe from dead draw he |
33111s | does look a little bit uncertain and |
33114s | disheveled about what he's doing |
33115s | sometimes |
33116s | um while actually having complete |
33118s | confidence so that might just be a Vibe |
33119s | thing but it seemed that if any uh deck |
33122s | was going to let him down just because |
33123s | of uncertainty or mistakes here and |
33126s | there it might have been the Demon |
33127s | Hunter so getting that through nice and |
33128s | clean and spotting that lethal having it |
33131s | counted in advance from a turnout as |
33133s | well and very nice performance from |
33135s | deadron yeah definitely a tricky skill |
33137s | there to be able to just spot the |
33138s | lethals that don't include like playing |
33140s | all of the spell damage right like that |
33142s | combination of how much spell damage |
33143s | versus how many spells you have is is |
33146s | actually a really really big deal so |
33148s | again a great job there for dead draw |
33149s | does mean he has his Rogue and Priests |
33151s | left with the obviously Demon Hunter and |
33153s | the priest on bunny side as well so |
33156s | again the the fear factors creeping back |
33159s | with the double priests but it doesn't |
33161s | mean me and Saul are gonna jump out and |
33163s | I believe TJ and Derek are jumping in so |
33166s | virtual tag let's go |
33170s | I'm back baby |
33172s | hello Derek |
33173s | welcome to this virtual casting desk |
33178s | oh it's roomy |
33180s | yes it is oh Lala a lot of runda but |
33184s | wiggle around huh |
33189s | get my get my Wiggles in my stretches |
33191s | for the day |
33192s | oh that's right I I like this let's jump |
33195s | in between you know we all we all get to |
33197s | class except for the part where I cast a |
33200s | 30 minute game |
33202s | go fill up my water use the restroom |
33205s | come back and they're they're already in |
33208s | the next game basically in the next game |
33211s | uh but other than that very cool how are |
33213s | you Derek |
33215s | I'm excited TJ costing another |
33218s | Hearthstone World Championship final |
33220s | only a small piece of the pie this year |
33222s | and not uh gorging on the entire thing |
33225s | like last year but uh still very excited |
33227s | to see who walks away with the trophy uh |
33231s | it's not gonna be the priest mirror I am |
33233s | spared that particular evil but uh the |
33235s | Demon Hunter |
33239s | game five |
33243s | oh geez okay all right all right |
33246s | serious this is serious all right Derek |
33251s | um priest versus |
33253s | Demon Hunter uh that's a pretty good |
33257s | start for bunny Hopper |
33259s | um just mention missing the dimensions |
33261s | and is I see you cooking up a real good |
33265s | stew |
33268s | oh yeah that's reducing down nicely |
33270s | however deadra on the other side uh oh |
33274s | wow interesting uh had himself a real |
33276s | nice hand with the plague spreader |
33278s | obviously is a nice counter to the Demon |
33281s | Hunter but I've got to say I'm a little |
33284s | bit surprised to see him so quickly |
33285s | trade away the amulet there because I |
33288s | did think this could be an instance of |
33291s | coining out the plague spreader maybe it |
33293s | doesn't die straight away necessarily |
33295s | but having that amulet in hand to be |
33298s | able to resurrect it and hopefully get |
33300s | another uh spreading of the plague and |
33303s | delete another Minion from their hand |
33305s | yeah I I do feel like getting it out as |
33308s | early as possible is sometimes falling |
33311s | into a trap |
33312s | um thought and I talked about this |
33314s | earlier where you know just less likely |
33317s | for there to be minions in the hand |
33318s | there's not that many minions in the |
33319s | district and three of the Minions that |
33321s | are the deck can just be traded away |
33323s | so |
33325s | um if you play it too early you risk |
33327s | that you you run the risk of Guild |
33329s | Trader just being traded Fel barrage |
33331s | being played Flex better being gone no |
33333s | minions being plagued |
33336s | that whole uh thingy so |
33339s | um that's just one thing to look out for |
33341s | but bunny is just |
33344s | gas in |
33346s | yeah that's the house rip the extinction |
33348s | right now hero power slam the face with |
33352s | these one ones and two twos |
33354s | and the turn as fast as possible be |
33357s | impatient while your opponent does their |
33358s | turn windmills slam your Relic fault |
33362s | and get the dimensions flowing yeah I |
33365s | think that was kind of a tough choice on |
33367s | the extinction actually I will say |
33368s | because it can be useful later on just |
33370s | to clear off uh later on uh yeah yeah |
33375s | Elementals as well can be good as well |
33377s | just because the only reason I consider |
33379s | not playing it is because his Dimension |
33380s | was already reducing by three and then |
33382s | four which |
33385s | when you factor in the quest completion |
33387s | as well means that all relevant cards |
33390s | aside from Jace is the one outlier are |
33393s | discounted down to zero so the |
33395s | extinction buffing up the dimensions yet |
33397s | further is not especially relevant uh |
33400s | but even then uh I do think it's very |
33402s | reasonable to get it down just because |
33403s | these Minions on board are actually |
33405s | doing a pretty good job this is a decent |
33407s | amount of Chip damage he's getting |
33408s | through |
33409s | yeah |
33411s | would agree I would agree |
33414s | um bunny Hopper actually filled up and |
33416s | took a sip of his water so oh he's gonna |
33420s | win it's over if they could see each |
33423s | other's cabs Andrew would have conceded |
33425s | yeah |
33426s | like whoa that's a bit aggressive |
33430s | you really have to fill it up at the |
33432s | same time oh that is |
33434s | I mean if they could see each other's |
33436s | hands I think dead Trump might concede |
33438s | right now that is an unbelievable set of |
33441s | discounts to get |
33446s | if you were to let this rip right now |
33448s | it's like a good amount of damage it is |
33451s | it really is |
33454s | uh would just be an extra 16 on top of |
33458s | the four that's on the board there yeah |
33459s | exactly |
33461s | so |
33468s | now I think plague spreader is a safe |
33471s | bet yeah I think it's reaching that |
33473s | point yeah if anything like the |
33476s | discounted spell damage that's in hand |
33478s | if there is some or discounted Jace |
33481s | even if it doesn't proc then now you |
33484s | know okay cool well there's no |
33486s | discounted minion so |
33488s | perfectly fine with it there it is |
33490s | that's a nice one to hit as well just to |
33493s | have as the backup after play spreader |
33495s | and you know hey we thrive in the hand |
33498s | as well if this plague spreader dies he |
33501s | could Thrive into one of the amulets get |
33503s | that down so I realized then activating |
33505s | twice like there's a good amount of |
33508s | disruption happening with this hand |
33509s | right now yeah |
33513s | all right so Guild Trader's getting used |
33515s | here and damage is being shipped |
33518s | The Guild Trader |
33520s | Extinction |
33526s | I just fell barrageous it's actually |
33528s | really clean break point you get four |
33530s | yeah I think the extinction will be able |
33532s | to gain you more damage than that in the |
33535s | long run yeah |
33536s | oh |
33540s | well |
33542s | this is Phil |
33551s | still |
33556s | yeah you could do I I do want to get |
33558s | this relic of phantasms down uh on this |
33561s | turn I think it's a really nice turn to |
33563s | do so because if they play light bomb |
33565s | which is the obvious answer to this |
33567s | board you actually get to stick the |
33569s | guild Trader which is then uh |
33571s | represented potentially like seven more |
33574s | damage on the following turn maybe more |
33576s | uh if the draws are |
33578s | uh willing which uh you know could just |
33581s | be lethal on this next turn there are |
33583s | draws that allow it for bunny Hopper if |
33585s | the best play for dead draw is just |
33587s | light bulb |
33590s | yeah we're now at the point where this |
33592s | relic of Dimensions even without a relic |
33595s | Vault cast on the next turn |
33597s | even peace would be playable like with |
33601s | the The Arcanist oh my God because it'd |
33603s | be a seven discount |
33605s | it's insane |
33608s | yeah it's the best he's got it's |
33610s | surviving that's that's game is that |
33612s | just game with just the top deck and the |
33615s | scorn |
33616s | that's 12 plus five I don't think oh if |
33621s | Mark of scoring hits like it is lethal |
33623s | with hero power yeah yeah more likely |
33626s | that you hit it from |
33628s | Dimensions that I do not know that is a |
33632s | tough question uh because Dimensions |
33634s | could hit either second Arcanist second |
33638s | Guild Trader gonna test first |
33641s | I think that's it |
33643s | that's 12 plus five plus three yeah |
33646s | that's lethal |
33649s | I wasn't even counting the actual three |
33651s | attack from The Guild Trader either yeah |
33653s | exactly it's because it just |
33659s | just |
33661s | it's happening the Demon Hunter getting |
33663s | fluid is so big for bunny Hopper that's |
33665s | been a big part of both players plans is |
33667s | to have a relatively good matchup |
33669s | against the Demon Hunter with uh their |
33671s | Mage their priests their Rogue as well |
33672s | and with that being ticked off now bunny |
33674s | Hopper just his control freaks left to |
33678s | get a win with oh TJ it's the perfect |
33681s | way to end the year's competitive |
33683s | circuit oh geez it's funny because it's |
33686s | like you know players they play a banger |
33689s | of a game in game one like super long |
33691s | back and forth and then all right let's |
33694s | take a break let's both get our Demon |
33695s | Hunter wins out of the way |
33697s | you know quick like 15 minutes for both |
33700s | games demon Hunters are gone all right |
33702s | now we can get back to the real games |
33703s | because we got priests versus priest or |
33706s | priest versus deep Rogue which are both |
33708s | uh you know some some burned Barn |
33713s | burners uh of matchups so |
33717s | um all right |
33719s | we'll see if there's going to be a game |
33721s | five and I get the priest mirror |
33723s | actually I just looked the priests feel |
33725s | safe |
33726s | it's Raven in the room |
33727s | [Laughter] |
33731s | let's have one final awkward virtual |
33733s | high five Which Way hold on let me see |
33736s | which way it is okay it's this way ready |
33737s | three two one two one |
33742s | close enough close enough |
33744s | from across the pond the latency |
33748s | we still got it |
33750s | um but yeah Derek you know before we |
33752s | send it over to uh the chuckleheads |
33755s | um this is your last game of casting for |
33758s | World Championship would you like to say |
33760s | anything |
33761s | it is uh it's been another fantastic |
33765s | year this is my favorite thing to do and |
33768s | uh it's been a pleasure to get to do it |
33771s | for another year thanks TJ it's a lot of |
33773s | fun again and uh everyone else enjoyed |
33775s | the rest of the finals this is going to |
33776s | be good stuff |
33778s | well they didn't tell us to throw to |
33780s | them yet so you could say if you like |
33783s | now it's been a pleasure casting with |
33786s | you too Derek uh so go enjoy the rest of |
33789s | the finals but for now we're gonna send |
33791s | it to Lorinda and Raven for a riveting |
33793s | priest mirror |
33797s | well |
33799s | here we are indeed we lost the uh the |
33803s | small sort of Caster game of Russian |
33805s | Roulette here as uh we end up with the |
33808s | control priest mirror of course a lot on |
33811s | the line for these players and uh it's |
33813s | gonna be obviously bunny Hopper |
33815s | currently in the lead two and one but |
33817s | yeah it's this mirror and Lorinda like |
33820s | we've seen |
33822s | many hours of this matchup but maybe not |
33826s | too many match-ups separately themselves |
33829s | but is there anything here in your |
33832s | experience that the players are |
33833s | particularly aiming to do is there any |
33835s | you know key cards key plays or really |
33838s | is it just people that the players are |
33840s | going to be looking for those small |
33841s | edges and then sort of build them up |
33843s | over time to to just take the victory I |
33846s | mean one thing we did see is uh using |
33849s | the amulets late so constantly recycle |
33852s | those ambulance getting more and more |
33855s | um big boards towards the end which do |
33857s | get removed and then you do it again and |
33859s | then you try and generate more amulets |
33861s | and you trade those and keep doing that |
33863s | and just keep trying to make the big |
33865s | boards really over and over again uh |
33867s | there are times where you have a choice |
33869s | to make where you can go for |
33872s | like long-term card advantage or hey |
33875s | maybe I could just sneak 18 damage in |
33877s | now and then your opponent can't clear |
33879s | it in one turn so they'll they'll maybe |
33881s | take 12 and then maybe they take seven |
33883s | the next turn and maybe you push the |
33885s | damage over the line |
33887s | um so I expect it's not just to be a |
33888s | long one because it's a pretty smooth |
33890s | and this neither deck has a way to win |
33892s | but also I expect both these players to |
33896s | legitimately rope nearly every turn |
33898s | working out whether they want to empty |
33900s | their hand to make space for more stuff |
33902s | or work out whether they want to try and |
33903s | connect five damage to face and then |
33905s | there's constantly you know the the |
33908s | brain melting decisions of what am I |
33910s | going to do about the plague people |
33912s | um am I going to kill them do I need to |
33914s | get some things out my hand is my stuff |
33917s | going to become plague people and become |
33918s | a nightmare yeah well one thing I do say |
33921s | I can see here and there is a big |
33923s | positive I think for bunny Hopper is he |
33925s | did actually keep the sister uh svarna |
33929s | which is going to be a big deal because |
33930s | we've seen so much of of that card's |
33933s | impact in these games right and they're |
33935s | nice to see that the players are keeping |
33937s | good spirits here with the emote and |
33940s | hero power face as the uh turned to play |
33942s | from dead draw but yeah I do think that |
33944s | reoccurring spell is going to be |
33946s | absolutely huge here for Bunny Hop at |
33948s | this early on |
33949s | yeah absolutely uh huge I'm gonna temper |
33953s | that down Raven we save huge and when |
33955s | they both got three cards left in their |
33957s | deck in about an hour's time from now |
33959s | but definitely a good start I'll go with |
33962s | that |
33964s | nothing's huge I know you know what give |
33968s | me a minute I'm going to put some |
33969s | pajamas on or something to just get cozy |
33971s | for this one the players will have to |
33973s | start just slowly working out how to |
33976s | push any kind of advantage and I think |
33978s | that's the biggest deal right |
33980s | um I it's not so much one particular big |
33983s | play but just small things that are |
33985s | going to add up over time and we are |
33987s | going to see the plague spreader uh you |
33990s | know dance happen relatively early here |
33992s | from dead drop and putting up as one as |
33995s | well of course but |
33996s | do you actually think that there's |
34001s | I guess I'll rephrase what I was going |
34003s | to ask what moment do you think there's |
34006s | ever a reason to maybe even slow down on |
34009s | card draw if at all |
34012s | um so we've seen two of these and both |
34014s | were one one was won by the player who |
34017s | just generated a big board that couldn't |
34019s | be dealt with and the other one was very |
34021s | nearly won by that uh but actually was |
34024s | won by the person who ended up managing |
34026s | to save amulets for the end |
34028s | I do think that you want to keep your |
34032s | hand empty because at some point you get |
34033s | the curving spells that you want to put |
34035s | in your hand because they're better than |
34036s | the things that start in your deck |
34038s | and I'm not 100 convinced that fatigue |
34042s | doesn't play A Part ever either I feel |
34044s | like I would rather be the one a couple |
34047s | of cards you know safer in fatigue just |
34049s | in case I don't think it'll come to that |
34052s | but |
34053s | who's played more than five of these and |
34055s | actually played it to the end there will |
34057s | be people out there who have done that |
34058s | because people play it but you know I |
34061s | don't want to be behind in fatigue in |
34062s | this matchup yeah and that's the key |
34064s | right there's enough that can be done |
34066s | that you cannot play fatigue from turn |
34068s | one right that's the it's not like you |
34071s | know the older control Warrior mirrors |
34073s | where you you knew from turn one right |
34077s | that yes this will go to fatigue |
34079s | therefore I will play like that from the |
34082s | the second game starts not necessarily |
34084s | the case in this matchup so it will be |
34086s | just both players gauging exactly what |
34089s | they need to do |
34090s | yeah absolutely and things like when to |
34093s | use your light bulbs they look like |
34094s | they're really good on small boards |
34096s | early but they become massive later on |
34098s | but again the problem especially with |
34101s | dead drawer's hand |
34103s | you really struggle for hand space later |
34105s | on in the game and he has two six drops |
34108s | and two eight drops that he doesn't |
34109s | really want to cast for some time |
34112s | and he's going to struggle to to keep |
34114s | his hand empty and where adds to an |
34116s | extent bunny has a play for every single |
34120s | turn of the game for the rest of the |
34122s | game now right with the vision |
34124s | yes exactly and he's got the space to to |
34127s | produce that at some point Deborah will |
34129s | also have his vision but even if he had |
34131s | it he wouldn't be able to cast it at the |
34133s | moment sensibly he'd be able to cast it |
34135s | but his hand would fill it with garbage |
34137s | and he would struggle so his plan really |
34140s | for now is to empty out his hand the |
34142s | best he can you know he's not going to |
34145s | die from taking eight from an eight |
34146s | seven so he's got plenty of time empty |
34149s | out the handy best he can and prepare |
34150s | himself for his vision but bunny Hopper |
34153s | generating that value already kind of |
34156s | the equivalent to the old armor |
34158s | um first one to get for armor the tank |
34160s | up going |
34162s | in the old Warrior mirror if you get the |
34164s | tank up going in the other place you've |
34165s | got armor up you're just generating an |
34167s | advantage |
34170s | I find this really tricky as well like |
34172s | all the Discover options they're they |
34175s | are powerful but |
34178s | the one that looks good now might not be |
34181s | good later right like that's the problem |
34182s | I do think you do have to keep a close |
34184s | eye on drown I think that's probably the |
34186s | most generic good pick in the matchup |
34189s | being able to just cycle Cards into your |
34191s | deck and steal them from your opponent |
34193s | is huge and I think that's if you're |
34195s | ever unsure and drown is offered |
34198s | I think you probably should just stick |
34200s | with with drown for the uh the usual |
34204s | yeah yeah that's something I forgot to |
34205s | mention when you asked me at the start |
34206s | what was important the ambulance rounds |
34208s | where you're swapping um |
34210s | let me see if you get this right so I |
34211s | don't get um tweeted at but the the my |
34214s | duh |
34215s | repeated at my DARS |
34218s | your dad |
34221s | is he that good at Hearthstone Raven |
34224s | uh not particularly but it's you know |
34226s | got live Steel |
34232s | um |
34233s | it |
34234s | again dead draw is just quality of hand |
34237s | is just at this early Point not quite |
34240s | there to just get rid of Renault I think |
34243s | for now |
34245s | he's managed to hold on to oh no don't |
34248s | no absolutely weird right because on one |
34251s | hand it's exactly what you want right is |
34255s | just more stuff than your opponent but |
34258s | on the other hand |
34261s | oh quite that drop but is it still just |
34264s | a pick right it's got to be better than |
34265s | flash shield and wig it has to be yeah |
34267s | it just I'm Gonna Leave the Room and |
34269s | come back and when I get back in or the |
34271s | sunwells won't be on the table anymore |
34273s | they won't be in your decks they'll all |
34275s | have gone away okay I'm Gonna Give You |
34276s | All 30 seconds to just put the sunwells |
34278s | away and behave yourselves |
34280s | Road |
34281s | but it does I think it's the right pick |
34283s | he's not going to get much out of it but |
34285s | maybe he gets something good because |
34286s | well I know the dick has something good |
34288s | right now yeah the thing is like two |
34290s | spells let's say is probably better than |
34293s | a flash heel right just like two sort of |
34296s | random spells you would imagine so even |
34299s | if he gets a small value from this it'll |
34301s | be fine the double drown though is |
34303s | looking spicy indeed for bunny |
34308s | he's right to the point in the way he |
34310s | does have to start dumping some cards |
34311s | right |
34313s | yeah absolutely but he also as you've |
34315s | mentioned a couple of times did you just |
34317s | take the drown and just use one of the |
34319s | drones |
34321s | I don't know yeah I just don't use one I |
34324s | don't know I think just take it use it |
34325s | he's gonna |
34326s | uh |
34329s | it's bunny he won't use it he's gonna |
34330s | gather okay thanks I like this I like |
34332s | this I actually like it but that's why I |
34334s | thought he wouldn't do it because if I |
34336s | like it there's no chance it's right now |
34338s | me and Bunny are often on the same |
34339s | wavelength when it comes to our Stone |
34341s | play |
34342s | uh-huh what what is the wavelength I'll |
34344s | tune in you you wouldn't get it you |
34347s | wouldn't get it |
34348s | no uh |
34350s | it's New Wave |
34353s | oh wow you know wind up radio |
34355s | I've got a wind-up radio that I have |
34358s | actually within reaching distance of |
34360s | where I'm sat right now |
34362s | I'm telling the truth okay the Finley |
34364s | solves a lot of the problems that dead |
34366s | drawers had with his hand |
34368s | now he's gonna have live drawers look at |
34371s | this |
34371s | yeah they only worry with Finley here is |
34373s | that uh I guess it's fine maybe with the |
34375s | light bulbs and the the some of the |
34377s | other options but it does feel like |
34379s | you're just bottling your problems up |
34380s | for later for them to explode because it |
34382s | does mean the the bottom of dead draws |
34384s | deck isn't exactly mind-blowing no but |
34388s | he'll have the light bulbs you'll have |
34389s | the whirlpools and they're they're much |
34391s | better at the end of the game yeah |
34393s | problems going on and that sort of thing |
34395s | then they are at the start of the game |
34397s | so they're better there the real problem |
34400s | he's got now is he's got his good cards |
34403s | and they're all going to get put into |
34405s | bunny Hoppers deck you see the reaction |
34406s | there there's one more of those still to |
34409s | come yeah at least one more drown and |
34412s | you see that draws head dip a little bit |
34414s | because he knows we talked about fatigue |
34418s | not being the you know the the Beyond |
34420s | end all of this matchup but |
34422s | it started to be like a four card |
34425s | difference it's starting to stack up and |
34427s | know me down for uh dead draw either |
34430s | which you know that doesn't help with |
34431s | the fatigue problem as well right like |
34434s | hand quality bunny Hoppers is a bit |
34436s | better deck quality bunny hops is a bit |
34439s | better |
34441s | um just ongoing value that he's got |
34443s | going bunny Hoppers had some ongoing |
34445s | value already everything is just sort of |
34448s | teetering towards bunny Hopper there's a |
34451s | lot of things can still change it very |
34453s | very quickly and I would be lying if I |
34455s | said I knew what all those things were |
34456s | because we've only seen two of these I |
34459s | haven't played the mirror on ladder I've |
34460s | played the deck |
34462s | um it's gonna be difficult but |
34466s | at the moment I would say bunny Hopper |
34468s | is on course to become the Hearthstone |
34470s | world champion at the end of this game |
34471s | which could be some time yeah one of the |
34474s | big problems here is without the um |
34476s | without being |
34478s | had been playable for dead draw the |
34480s | amulets are just less good because with |
34483s | that that at least can start negating |
34485s | some problems with fatigue that their |
34487s | draw is going to hit in the |
34489s | some point in the future I was working |
34491s | out whether I was the Ghost of Christmas |
34493s | future or past at this point |
34496s | um but but yeah it's it's just it's not |
34499s | an urgent problem at this second but |
34501s | it's going to be one soon and I'm not |
34503s | really sure how it gets away with this |
34505s | unless he could end up like drowning it |
34507s | back or drowning bunny hoppers at some |
34509s | point yeah I mean that's that's what |
34511s | that will happen he will he'll be hoping |
34513s | to very much get his own vision of |
34514s | Darkness rolling and that's when the |
34516s | game kind of equalizes this is why bunny |
34519s | Hopper needs to make hay while the sun |
34521s | shines as it is although it's freezing |
34523s | cold here the sun's not shining at all |
34526s | um but yes |
34528s | absolutely bunny Hopper with all those |
34530s | little advantages |
34534s | it's a big difference like I said as |
34535s | soon as Bonnie kept basically the vision |
34538s | in the opening hand |
34540s | it's such a giant leap because that's |
34542s | the one thing you know you want right in |
34546s | this matchup like you were talking about |
34547s | the light bombs and whirlpools needing |
34549s | them later you want some other things |
34551s | sooner but the one thing you know you |
34553s | want no matter what is that vision |
34557s | foreign |
34560s | staring at the the things unfolding |
34564s | before our eyes Raven |
34568s | trying not to repeat myself too much I |
34571s | think we'll see this um card draw into |
34573s | the cycling I'm pretty sure you just |
34575s | talked about that but yeah he's just got |
34577s | to go for it now because look at the |
34579s | advantage Bunny Hop is getting it's |
34580s | starting to become visible now it's not |
34583s | just yeah we know you've done some |
34584s | things it's starting to become look at |
34586s | all the things I have that you don't it |
34588s | has the same hand as dead draw with just |
34590s | three extra things in it yeah this shoe |
34593s | is just again just these amulets for |
34594s | dead draw I think currently just do |
34596s | nothing or at least what may as well be |
34598s | nothing |
34602s | problem but if he keeps saying like |
34605s | again on one he does need to cycle but |
34607s | then is it does he have something like |
34609s | actually a winning uh that's gonna close |
34612s | that gap which is more or less a six |
34614s | turn Gap now between the players well |
34617s | the one thing the dead draw is doing is |
34618s | saying okay I mean because the fatigue |
34620s | both the games we've had one went into |
34622s | fatigue but it wasn't the deciding |
34623s | factor the other one didn't get close |
34625s | one thing that Deadpool has done which |
34628s | has negated a little bit of the |
34631s | advantage bunny hopperscore is |
34632s | constantly being front on board yeah and |
34635s | a lot of these boards you don't clear in |
34636s | one turn comfortably like now the light |
34638s | bulb light bomb would blur up at plague |
34640s | person which would you know obviously |
34642s | plague bunny Hopper and then he clears |
34645s | and once again dead draw gets to replay |
34648s | so for the next three or four turns dead |
34651s | draw will be the one with the tempo on |
34654s | the board it's not a huge thing it's |
34657s | unlikely to get through but he is |
34659s | stunting bunny Hoppers development by |
34662s | doing that I mean this is what used to |
34663s | happen in the old priest mirrors right |
34665s | where it used to be like your first |
34667s | actual priority is to just burst them |
34670s | down right make big boards keep making |
34672s | big boards Force the removal out and |
34674s | then go again and the matchup Was Won in |
34677s | that fashion and it came down to those |
34679s | fatigue things sort of later and it |
34681s | definitely wasn't plan a so you can |
34684s | definitely see dead draw doing okay here |
34686s | so far at least keeping that pressure on |
34688s | but like I said the problem is just the |
34691s | sheer value that the vision has already |
34693s | got is just such a problem it really is |
34695s | and Deadpool is just not able to find |
34697s | his own turn after turn |
34700s | but he is repeatedly splitting the |
34702s | difference he's repeatedly drawing some |
34704s | cards and then saying to bunny Hopper |
34705s | okay I'm going to tie up your Mana if he |
34708s | ties up bunny Hoppers man of enough |
34709s | eventually bunny hoppo will either stop |
34711s | getting value or maybe burn a card which |
34714s | could be useful if they do get a fatigue |
34716s | only probably looking at identity theft |
34718s | here but |
34720s | I'm just staring at just another amulet |
34723s | yeah either or and I again if you've |
34725s | played this a lot I'm going to just say |
34726s | that whatever bunny Hopper takes is |
34727s | correct on this one that's what I do |
34729s | anyway but like even more strongly I |
34731s | think if you play this a lot you know |
34732s | which is the pick here |
34735s | um does he even need the cards right now |
34737s | it's only a copy maybe just the amulet |
34738s | play for that late game safety play for |
34741s | those big boards later in the day that's |
34743s | what I mean like just amulet and then |
34745s | just trade it away it seems absolutely |
34747s | fine review the option after that I do |
34749s | like this a lot here from bunny does get |
34751s | the zyrella hero |
34754s | they'll just do stuff I think one of the |
34756s | things you need to look at in terms of |
34759s | how far I think bunny thinks he's ahead |
34762s | is that he's had these two locations for |
34765s | ages and procked once |
34768s | you know it has been a recurring problem |
34771s | with the matchups we have seen here if |
34773s | you've got the vision going |
34775s | you really do struggle to empty your |
34777s | hand and that's why I'm not writing dead |
34778s | draw completely off because he will gain |
34781s | that value back very quickly with a |
34782s | vision if he draws it because he has |
34784s | managed to there it is he has managed to |
34787s | solved the problem of hand size in his |
34788s | hand with that Finley |
34790s | and yeah now the game is well and truly |
34792s | on he sits up in his chair and you can |
34794s | see he he thinks he's back in this |
34796s | because he's got the tempo he's got the |
34798s | vision rolling |
34799s | and he's not totally out of it but as |
34801s | Raven has pointed out several times look |
34803s | at those deck sizes 25 to 17 is how much |
34807s | stuff bunny Hoppers stolen basically and |
34810s | not so bad I was gonna say yeah their |
34812s | job probably has to play the Behemoth |
34814s | out because you know if he's scared of |
34816s | this uh plague but of course upon |
34819s | getting the vision like the vision is |
34820s | priority and he does lose the Behemoth |
34823s | as well so even though he isn't you know |
34826s | he doesn't need the lifesteal so to |
34828s | speak a behemoth play later could have |
34830s | actually been huge absolutely |
34833s | um another thing that's been happening |
34834s | well Bunny Hop has been controlling |
34836s | these boards is he has actually been |
34838s | using up his spells so his hand is full |
34840s | of minions right now |
34841s | he's facing enough damage that he |
34844s | doesn't just want to go minion minion |
34845s | minion right he wants to blow up the |
34847s | board over and over again or put some |
34849s | taunts down or something |
34851s | and if Deborah can just keep on this |
34853s | turn after turn hit you for six play |
34855s | another six six hit your five play an |
34858s | amulet which he'll draw in a moment yeah |
34860s | he's got two or three they've been |
34861s | cycling really or two they've been |
34862s | cycling really well |
34864s | if you can just keep this rolling maybe |
34867s | he gets there with the equivalent of |
34869s | tempo that priest has uh it's not like |
34872s | Rogue Tempo it happens over several |
34874s | turns but you can see bunny obviously I |
34876s | start taking damage now like chunky |
34878s | damage |
34880s | what he's gonna have to do a good job |
34881s | clearing here though Ireland is always |
34884s | the nice play to be able to just push |
34886s | back a little bit at least and and just |
34888s | get some level of tempo going |
34891s | but again take six a trade play some |
34894s | more minions for dead draw |
34896s | and he's gonna have the opposite problem |
34898s | to bunny Hopper his hand's going to be |
34899s | full of spells in a moment because he's |
34901s | used all his minions up buddy Hopper's |
34904s | hand is full of minions because he's |
34905s | used all his spells up so when it goes |
34908s | the other way when bunny Hopper finally |
34910s | gets control it's going to be about |
34912s | where the dead draw spells can control |
34914s | bunny Hoppers minions in the same way |
34916s | and that's where those extra seven or |
34919s | ten turns whatever it was at Visions |
34920s | will probably reveal themselves in |
34923s | Bunny's favor yeah extra zyrella though |
34925s | for dead true or that said nothing to be |
34927s | upset about at all along with the amulet |
34929s | so pretty solid pickup using the zero |
34932s | Mana spell to just dump the card now |
34934s | reborn of course on the minion two yeah |
34936s | this is still that sort of um very |
34938s | thematic Undead Army that just never |
34941s | really gets cleared and he's just yeah |
34943s | it couldn't work out which one's |
34945s | Australia so just shipping it face it's |
34946s | setting up sort of lethal over two or |
34949s | three turns with the you've got to |
34951s | visualize the clear I play some more |
34954s | stuff clear I play some more stuff now |
34955s | as it happens Deadpool's kind of running |
34957s | out of stuff for the time being but |
34959s | that'll change soon |
34962s | I'm excited baby I think this might be |
34963s | going to go five suddenly even though |
34965s | there's no logical reason why bunny |
34966s | Hopper isn't a mile in front yeah |
34971s | no it's actually just so close honestly |
34974s | is it great |
34983s | you're going for a light shower okay |
34986s | because again it's something you got to |
34987s | bear in mind that at any point bunny |
34989s | does have Whirlpool right he can just |
34992s | stop this push if he wants to |
34994s | more or less again though it costs eight |
34997s | you play Whirlpool you do nothing else |
34999s | dead draw and again dead was running out |
35002s | of minions we need to keep an eye on |
35003s | that he needs an amulet he's got one |
35005s | yeah and um but if there's a Whirlpool |
35007s | happens then ambulance just happens and |
35008s | everything comes back yeah that is true |
35011s | I think amulet is the the scary one |
35013s | right because in general I think Bunny |
35015s | Hop has seen enough stuff to say okay |
35017s | well other than amulet you probably |
35020s | don't have that many actual minions to |
35023s | just play naturally right yes so |
35025s | obviously amulet is definitely scary |
35027s | bunny Hopper keeping a at least equal on |
35030s | board roughly speaking of course yeah |
35032s | and he's taken seven damage effectively |
35034s | like I've been talking about this push |
35035s | like it's some game-winning Bonanza |
35037s | killer he's actually managed to do seven |
35040s | damage with this game-winning Bonanza |
35042s | killer over that whole time yeah |
35044s | um deadra also noticed has been holding |
35046s | on to at least one Shard the whole time |
35048s | so if a board does stick or a big chunk |
35051s | of board sticks he will be able to get |
35052s | through taunts and you know put in a |
35055s | hefty thump at some point that's that's |
35057s | something else he's working towards |
35059s | yeah I was even looking at what like |
35061s | what and when zirella becomes relevant |
35064s | right because that's what those death |
35065s | rattles uh you know there's a lot of |
35067s | plagues in there |
35069s | there is a lot of plagues but the thing |
35071s | is four fours aren't the easiest thing |
35074s | to keep dealing with the deck is built |
35076s | to deal with giving your opponent a |
35078s | couple of four fours and killing them |
35079s | off |
35080s | but when you're talking about killing |
35082s | four fours over 25 30 turns that's a |
35086s | different problem you're not built to |
35087s | deal with that so much |
35093s | hey dead draw trying to squeeze a lot |
35096s | into this turn now |
35098s | kills off the zyrella on board |
35100s | simple |
35102s | yeah I don't know how many turns he's |
35104s | had this momentum before now but |
35106s | he's holding on to it it is starting to |
35108s | Peter out |
35112s | there's an amulet |
35114s | drops down vision for Bunny and |
35120s | yeah now |
35124s | I don't know which cards have been |
35126s | copied or not with theft accusations so |
35128s | uh I would genuinely you know generally |
35132s | lean to identity theft in this matchup |
35134s | of course but bunny has a much better |
35137s | idea uh that how good theft accusation |
35140s | is or isn't right now |
35142s | yeah I I've also given up on the deck |
35145s | track of this so I remember that when TJ |
35146s | and I cast it in the on the first day |
35148s | the deck tracker melted so yeah it's |
35150s | like |
35151s | not touching that today |
35154s | not too quickly for this game that is it |
35157s | it did reappear but I don't know |
35161s | get track of this look at all this stuff |
35162s | though |
35165s | remember the dead drawers whirlpools and |
35167s | light bulbs are both on the bottom of |
35169s | the deck like all four of them because |
35171s | he he finled them away quite early on |
35174s | in relative terms |
35184s | Mindy it's okay oh oh oh there it is |
35193s | and he knows that Bunny's hand has got |
35195s | quite a lot of plague people in it he |
35197s | must be tempted as a whirlpool |
35199s | Yeah It's Tricky though right because |
35201s | then it's just the same problem you |
35202s | mentioned earlier but backwards where |
35204s | Bonnie gets to play into this as opposed |
35206s | to you know the other way around exactly |
35209s | so he's kind of stuck with this whole |
35211s | gotta just keep on trying to keep the |
35213s | tempo but it is petering out |
35217s | we've got the Shadowood ruin |
35219s | um |
35220s | yeah vision |
35224s | identity theft Whispers of the deep sure |
35228s | are you still identity because like you |
35230s | said he's actually running low on |
35231s | threats to want to grab a amulet or |
35234s | something right so I think it has to be |
35237s | identity theft for dead draw right now |
35241s | you open his hand is just |
35246s | it's like one of those really bad |
35248s | science fiction episodes where you know |
35250s | the whole crew just slowly gets turned |
35252s | into a zombie |
35255s | okay it gets turned into a zombie all of |
35258s | them morph into one single zombie yeah |
35260s | it's like the Borg plague people |
35263s | meanwhile it's like hey Spirit healer |
35266s | have a look around that corner up plague |
35269s | person now unlucky |
35273s | the zirella for dead draw |
35278s | it guys identity theft into identity |
35280s | theft yeah oh well there's Mida that's |
35283s | good there's me down he's come back |
35286s | finally with a pint of milk a pack of |
35289s | ciggies after all these years |
35301s | now what |
35303s | beat the shards use a shards or cyclist |
35306s | the shards don't do anything though |
35308s | right not now they don't but he knows |
35310s | that you know they will at some point |
35313s | yeah and I think that's the that's the |
35315s | issue right like they will at some point |
35316s | so keep them right in hand if dead draw |
35320s | wants to dodge something specific |
35322s | oh look I didn't I think both of these |
35325s | players don't even know who's who |
35327s | anymore |
35331s | is the the Spider-Man meme right they |
35334s | just pointing each other |
35335s | everything's just plagued people no one |
35338s | actually knows what's happening |
35342s | steal that sort of gut feeling that |
35344s | bunny should be slightly ahead but also |
35346s | the other gut feeling that I don't know |
35348s | what I'm talking about so who knows ants |
35350s | on the middle and a burn for dead draw |
35353s | here as well right because that's gonna |
35354s | overdraw |
35366s | help I think it's stopped |
35371s | there's so many amulets or identity |
35373s | thefts |
35374s | I'm burning up and saying you know what |
35376s | I've turned the corner now there goes |
35377s | light charity yeah Bunny Hop is saying |
35379s | okay I'm on board now I still have |
35382s | removal available if needed but he is |
35384s | just that one step ahead you've noticed |
35387s | Bernie Hopper's possession right |
35389s | Deadpool is going to be the one on |
35390s | defense removing stuff every turn seeing |
35393s | what bunny Hopper has his reload and |
35396s | bloody Hopper's early vision |
35398s | meant that his relay his removal on the |
35401s | sort of ten turns he had to defend was |
35403s | pretty efficient and dejua might be just |
35407s | a touch behind here but one important |
35408s | factor though I want to just bear in |
35410s | mind is both players are now on the same |
35411s | debt count right or the Bonnie's now 11 |
35415s | that draws 12. yeah so that huge lead |
35420s | like what was it like four or five maybe |
35421s | even six cards yeah yeah for bunny |
35424s | Hopper has gone away because he's needed |
35426s | to draw or he's had cards you know like |
35428s | stolen or deleted with a whirlpool and |
35431s | so on so actually now the fatigue isn't |
35435s | really that big a deal in terms of one |
35437s | player being ahead of the other |
35439s | I think it's the card quality though and |
35441s | again I'm very happy to be told I'm |
35443s | wrong here but because bunny Hopper had |
35445s | that run of getting the Visions earlier |
35447s | my instinct says that his card quality |
35450s | should be better than dead droids just |
35452s | by slowly small efficiency advantages |
35456s | but I could be completely wrong yeah |
35459s | well one thing to bear in mind I think a |
35461s | lot of that evening up of the fatigue |
35464s | came from Whirlpool which means you know |
35467s | the light shower Elementals or whatever |
35469s | and everything like that got sort of |
35471s | deleted out of the deck which meant |
35473s | basically the cards dead draw had |
35475s | already played |
35476s | was you know the the mirrors were in |
35479s | bunny Hoppers deck no that's a very good |
35481s | point so it could just be that the card |
35482s | quality was equalized immediately with |
35484s | the whirlpool yeah |
35486s | we are gonna have to watch it sort of |
35488s | unravel as you're watching me unravel |
35490s | live on air yeah because wasn't there |
35492s | like I think the drowns from earlier at |
35496s | least a couple of them just got deleted |
35498s | right I think you're right yeah |
35502s | yeah I think you're right one was in |
35504s | midar but I think the others were just |
35506s | things that have now been deleted |
35508s | foreign |
35520s | towards the bottom of the deck it |
35521s | becomes far more relevant at the end |
35523s | because you've the cards you've saved |
35525s | that are any good that get stolen that's |
35527s | a big deal and and you just wait till |
35529s | the whirlpools have been played right |
35530s | and then drown |
35533s | and then yeah safer yeah |
35537s | except you don't know how many |
35538s | whirlpools they've been generated but |
35540s | you don't think that three zirella is |
35543s | dead too I guess they're just super |
35544s | amulets right |
35547s | yeah but they they only proc the death |
35549s | rattles right so if your death battle is |
35552s | bring something back to life then hey |
35558s | maybe not |
35562s | credible into tradable into tradable |
35564s | okay welcome to the |
35568s | Club yeah so the bone caller putting the |
35571s | bone cooler in the zirella is where I |
35573s | was going without that's the second one |
35575s | for dead draw this game |
35577s | and then zarella brings back some yeah |
35580s | stuff and off you go yeah I I guess the |
35584s | point is like that's gonna do like two |
35586s | versus obviously a amulet is can do |
35589s | seven right yeah whatever so we'll see |
35592s | how that one goes but oh look another |
35594s | plague spreader absolute plague spreader |
35598s | It's Tricky as well because I think |
35600s | everybody knew about the 100 xyrella |
35603s | Heroes that he would probably drown that |
35606s | too for right |
35608s | I don't know if these two practice |
35610s | together for this tournament they |
35611s | brought very very similar lineups right |
35612s | so there's there's a possibility they |
35614s | did practice together because they're in |
35615s | different groups that's the thing that |
35616s | players still do at the top level |
35618s | sometimes yeah I'm sure when I asked uh |
35621s | bunny he said it was going to be a |
35623s | potential mix |
35625s | of you know obviously non-tournament |
35627s | players and uh dead draw I guess or |
35630s | maybe another one |
35631s | it wouldn't surprise me if they had in |
35633s | which case the reason I bring that up is |
35635s | but he might know there's a handful of |
35636s | zoellas if they play tested this but who |
35638s | play tests this when they've got one |
35639s | week to test every match up yeah you |
35642s | just look at this go yeah amulet's Goods |
35644s | I know that's kind of good you know |
35645s | everybody knows good because he's got |
35647s | two of them as well |
35648s | so maybe he would expect triple his |
35651s | overall action |
35652s | there's one |
35658s | have a hand of play |
35661s | oh |
35663s | that's it I'd be very interested to see |
35666s | what happens on what the meta looks like |
35668s | if plague spreader just hit a card in |
35671s | your opponent's hand and not a minion |
35673s | that would be hilarious what's he got |
35675s | like plague pool and plagues so like |
35678s | spells just become plague spreaders yeah |
35681s | just as a minion yeah I'll call it |
35683s | Whirlpool plague pool in that in that |
35685s | apocalyptic description let's make it |
35688s | someone make it a Tavern brawl and see |
35690s | I'm very excited yes do it Tales from |
35693s | the plague |
35695s | except give it a good name |
35700s | I just gotta drown |
35702s | oh they're just stealing the same things |
35705s | I |
35706s | think so stop it |
35708s | there's hundreds of thousands of dollars |
35710s | on the line make the behave |
35714s | rest |
35717s | [Music] |
35722s | okay the Midas are going to start doing |
35724s | stuff now yep and bunny is you know that |
35728s | had that turn behind uh you would say on |
35731s | fatigue at this second in time |
35734s | um but that can swiftly change and of |
35737s | course now bunny is the one who's ahead |
35739s | on board |
35741s | seem to remember there were 16 spells so |
35744s | if you're playing Vision all over and |
35746s | over again you're gonna hit a 3 and 16 |
35748s | chance to hit a drown quite often so if |
35751s | it does just come down to Mida versus |
35753s | Mida |
35758s | I'll get there I've just been lazy |
35762s | who hits the most three out of 16 shots |
35765s | to |
35765s | to just drown it back into their deck |
35767s | all the time |
35774s | wow |
35782s | one thing that's been very clear from |
35784s | particularly Bunny's side but that's |
35786s | because he's been the defender is the |
35787s | the players just aren't worrying about |
35789s | the plague spreaders right they're just |
35790s | like a 4-4 plague spreader is fine in my |
35792s | hand oh yeah but the thing is fine |
35795s | the the way to worry about it and play |
35799s | around it I would say is to just throw |
35802s | minions out left right and Center which |
35804s | is probably the way to lose right so you |
35806s | just say well I'll play normally and |
35808s | take the four fours |
35811s | kidnap |
35814s | here's the tricky thing here we've just |
35816s | had an update from Derek that someone |
35818s | said that it's Meda because a nauru says |
35821s | it in the book of mercenaries it's not |
35824s | my dough anymore yeah the problem is |
35826s | though if that's the case well thrall |
35828s | says shaman |
35836s | everyone needs to sort themselves out as |
35839s | far as I'm concerned I I'm with you I I |
35841s | used to cast shaming with you and Shaman |
35843s | with everyone else to avoid arguments I |
35844s | said Shaman before I met this game yeah |
35847s | I was an original shamanite and I I was |
35849s | I just got I'm not as strong as you even |
35852s | I got bullied by subtle into saying it |
35854s | incorrectly and you know there you go |
35856s | and and here we are years |
35861s | media yeah here we are |
35866s | no how do you say Navi says its name |
35869s | I would say |
35872s | who says media |
35874s | the narrow says me mate is really calm |
35879s | it's just because she was just not on my |
35880s | maidar before we started the disgusting |
35883s | when we started this match and I'm gonna |
35885s | come down now |
35886s | bam |
35892s | put just chain in vision of Darkness |
35894s | here another drowned to pick up not too |
35897s | much of a surprise like I said I think |
35899s | that is if you're off a drown you'd need |
35901s | a very very good reason to uh not take |
35905s | it in this matchup yeah I agree I think |
35907s | it's the number one card |
35911s | wow |
35913s | it's so silly oh and get in the sack |
35918s | get in this sack |
35921s | The Amulet here only on two though for |
35923s | dead draw so you'll probably still want |
35925s | to cycle that get a bit more value yet |
35927s | wait when you activate the sax thing |
35930s | with Zion I assume something doesn't pop |
35932s | out of it because |
35934s | yeah under it's uh and epic backs on |
35938s | that |
35938s | epic sex I think you need Epic Sax to |
35941s | watch this replay too |
35943s | well the shape I like to pick up is just |
35945s | the just the most raw value death rattle |
35947s | of course uh it's gonna just create more |
35950s | Minions on board which is probably what |
35952s | their their dead draw is here for |
35954s | some of the phone's Shady bunny to |
35956s | analyze this Arena board please or you |
35958s | know language hacker or red beard or |
35960s | somebody look at the state of this board |
35965s | look at it |
35970s | absolute state of the board |
35974s | foreign |
35976s | but it is a fairly dangerous board to be |
35978s | fair |
35980s | yeah I'm just sitting here wondering if |
35982s | bunny actually wants to drown the |
35985s | mothership yeah I think that's just the |
35988s | highest value so we'll just take it away |
35991s | it stops dead draw getting it in um is |
35994s | death rattle pool as well which is going |
35996s | to be very important for later |
35999s | I like that finally Raven having said |
36002s | it's going to be important for later 200 |
36005s | times each during this game of |
36007s | hearthstone later is nearly here no I |
36010s | think it's still a while away yet it is |
36012s | a little bit the reason I said later and |
36014s | not soon it's getting there yeah it's |
36017s | getting there |
36020s | God |
36022s | and the drowns of course will slow down |
36024s | fatigue at some point as well |
36027s | one thing that Deadpool has struggled |
36029s | with the last two or three turns because |
36030s | again he's been the the temporary player |
36033s | is he hasn't had quite as many Visions |
36035s | cast as bunny has I don't think I think |
36037s | he's missed one or two |
36039s | I might be wrong right |
36041s | I feel like bunny just doesn't miss any |
36043s | and I feel like dead drawers miss a few |
36044s | but he's been making space in his hand |
36047s | by Will pulling away his own plague hand |
36050s | a lot of the time as well |
36052s | oh amulet number 500. |
36056s | play it oh come on |
36059s | I think right now a dead drop will just |
36061s | want amulets with almost Max minions |
36064s | right |
36065s | this is Max minions that's why that's |
36067s | what I thought three minions is Max for |
36068s | now |
36070s | wait there's been no other death battles |
36072s | there's only space |
36075s | oh you can't yeah he could have traded |
36076s | the three two right |
36079s | sure to have died uh yeah I I It's |
36082s | tricky because I'll be honest |
36084s | I don't think the trackers that we have |
36086s | is reliable at this point now the track |
36088s | we've got at this point I don't know |
36090s | what the amulets in the deck even look |
36092s | like and how many there even are so uh |
36095s | we'll have to see how this one pans out |
36096s | but dead Rod's choosing to make a bit of |
36098s | a push and it does force bunny Hopper on |
36101s | the back foot in terms of whether he |
36102s | wants to clear or not |
36105s | you can also kind of counter push and |
36106s | just put his own stuff on the board and |
36108s | say okay well your board actually is |
36110s | full of two ones mate and I don't care |
36111s | about it I'm just gonna put some stuff |
36114s | out on my own and one thing bunny has |
36115s | done as you kind of mentioned earlier is |
36117s | he is played Visions almost every |
36120s | possible turn of this game that he could |
36126s | all I know right now is it's what I |
36129s | would do uh take that as a positive or A |
36131s | negative for Buddy's play but I would |
36133s | definitely look at just saying okay well |
36135s | this is just raw Extra Value no I'm with |
36138s | you even and I'll be wrong with you we |
36140s | can be wrong together it's fine |
36143s | chaos Nova burnt uh bunny Hopper just |
36145s | emptying some hand space before as well |
36151s | if you're looking at this ambulance it's |
36152s | got four on it |
36157s | no he wants Five On It |
36163s | and then he started reciting the lyrics |
36165s | to a certain song I know I know I was |
36167s | 21. play around getting his band forever |
36170s | but you know |
36175s | trying all right I'm sure we'd be fine |
36177s | if we were banned forever |
36178s | yeah I'm sure we'll see he has managed |
36181s | to Chip Away bunny Hopper down to Omega |
36183s | 28 which is too low than most Heroes |
36185s | start with he's getting there |
36189s | this |
36191s | dirella will of course uh kill off the |
36193s | Volvo |
36196s | yep |
36199s | why are there motherships all over the |
36201s | place |
36203s | like the plague people but they're |
36205s | Mothership people they're spreading |
36209s | my cat's come to see what's going on |
36210s | she's excited too right at the end here |
36213s | with the potentially of the World |
36214s | Championships 2022 |
36221s | wow now |
36224s | Ida on the Orient Express being put back |
36228s | in the deck once again |
36236s | what's that I don't even know why I'm |
36238s | trying to remember |
36240s | what all the Death rattles are that the |
36243s | bunny offer has it I was like right what |
36245s | is this board stick gonna look like at |
36246s | the end here and it's just gonna be a |
36248s | ton of healing yeah they're both trying |
36251s | not to draw cards but those things are |
36252s | the location is just clogging up the |
36254s | board as well |
36259s | hey looks like dead draw now gonna start |
36263s | oh does have drown yeah like I said I |
36265s | just at this point I can't even think of |
36268s | another card that you would pick if |
36269s | drown was an option |
36271s | let's have fragment no I don't think |
36273s | there is I mean I say there might not be |
36274s | one too what are you doing cat This is |
36277s | highly important |
36279s | um yeah I can't think of one but then |
36281s | whenever you say you can't think of |
36282s | something incredible pops up that you've |
36283s | not seen for years it's just like it's a |
36285s | hugger |
36287s | or something but yeah here comes the |
36289s | drown |
36291s | he wants to cast something to get it out |
36293s | of his hand just so he's got space to |
36294s | play The Vision again soon |
36297s | and no minions in hand right now so |
36300s | doesn't need to worry about this plague |
36302s | spreader hitting I don't even know at |
36305s | this moment in time but yeah I didn't |
36307s | have to overly worry about it looks like |
36309s | he's just gonna throw the mech into the |
36311s | bottom of his deck instead I genuinely |
36313s | don't think they care much about having |
36315s | things turned into plague people I think |
36316s | the four fours are just good enough that |
36318s | they don't mind yeah I was just meaning |
36320s | if like you know |
36322s | somehow they generated some really |
36324s | insane death rattle right and and they |
36326s | said you know what I actually want this |
36328s | there's like a chance that you'd silence |
36330s | the spreader for a turn just to be able |
36332s | to play the death rattle next turn but |
36334s | yeah it's it's unlikely but possible |
36338s | this is like one of those card games |
36339s | where one player gets all of the cards |
36340s | apart from a few but the few the other |
36342s | player has spins them all back to their |
36344s | side and you keep doing that and you're |
36346s | just not sure who's winning until it's |
36347s | over but I do feel like bunny Hoppers |
36351s | quality card quality is becoming |
36353s | noticeably stronger than dead drawers |
36355s | over the last few turns |
36358s | the double Mothership |
36359s | Etc |
36366s | but I'm not sure if you should just be |
36368s | counting number of minions or we should |
36370s | be looking at the actual quality of the |
36371s | minions at this point I mean it's tough |
36373s | as well because once again fatigue has |
36375s | shifted back towards dead draw where |
36377s | he's now got two cards left in deck |
36379s | because bunny Hopper has I feel like |
36380s | bunny Hoppers just hit way more drowns |
36382s | which happens when you play Visions way |
36385s | more often |
36386s | um and it started to just give a little |
36388s | bit of an advantage and as you said I'm |
36390s | not saying fatigue is the the ultimate |
36392s | end point here but |
36395s | being a bit ahead of your opponent in |
36396s | fatigue means that you might squeak out |
36398s | a lethal when obviously if the the board |
36402s | state was flipped you would be able to |
36403s | right so it will start to stack up |
36405s | damage wise but he definitely hits three |
36408s | drowns before dead draw even had the |
36409s | opportunity to right right right that's |
36412s | the part I do remember for sure |
36414s | yeah dead doors now at the amulet stage |
36416s | of the game where you have to remember |
36419s | that you can't tradeable an amulet once |
36421s | there's no cars left in your deck so |
36423s | it's time to play them obviously drown |
36425s | kind of helps with that you can drown |
36427s | and then you can trade the amulet |
36430s | into your last card so that's a thing |
36432s | that might be on his mind in terms of |
36434s | not playing drown for a turn or two |
36440s | we can use their parents to clear up a |
36442s | minion here makes sense just retains |
36444s | much board as possible |
36448s | he has retained a big board two or three |
36450s | turns in a row now |
36454s | and with a double zyvela left and I |
36456s | think an amulet still to come |
36463s | and Bunny will have a much better idea |
36465s | of what this Whirlpool you know what |
36467s | level of impact this Whirlpool has or |
36469s | doesn't |
36470s | and it's still got light bomb which gets |
36473s | a reasonable-ish job done |
36481s | go for devour with the tone okay okay |
36490s | I mean this and then it does make light |
36491s | bomb better after trades happen right so |
36496s | yes absolutely this could be uh probably |
36500s | oh |
36502s | that one hurts but Brown is a good |
36505s | response how much damage is this |
36508s | a lot I mean it's a lot in context it's |
36510s | like 20 19 I think yeah I didn't count |
36513s | it I just sort of did a five times four |
36515s | is twenty and it looks like five times |
36517s | four to me because it's the same as six |
36518s | times three |
36520s | yeah this is solid because now their |
36522s | draw is going to flip over to the shadow |
36524s | side of zyrella and he will have Shadow |
36527s | word |
36529s | damage I can't remember what that one's |
36531s | called one sec uh Shadow word on death |
36535s | that's it yeah Shadowood damage |
36537s | Shadowood on death that is pretty much |
36539s | the same phrase as far as I'm concerned |
36541s | blame around the light bomb healing up |
36543s | his small minion because healing up |
36544s | anything else wouldn't matter but two |
36546s | damage could be relevant |
36548s | the pings are starting to add up |
36551s | are we going to a game five |
36553s | I don't think there's whirlpools and all |
36555s | sorts of stuff the problem is there's |
36556s | still the zyrellas |
36559s | I think that's the the big question mark |
36561s | for me is just zirella right now uh |
36567s | there's so many big question marks in my |
36569s | mind right now they're just floating |
36570s | around covering up my eyes and I just |
36572s | don't even know what's happening anymore |
36573s | it's it's great I'm loving every second |
36575s | of it |
36578s | see the world pool though |
36580s | yeah and I'm on review |
36583s | take a quick look here |
36586s | okay |
36587s | she's on one okay |
36595s | those we love are never true he comes |
36598s | over to number two |
36599s | gonna fetch some more play people back |
36606s | and Deadpool |
36608s | almost certainly in control otherwise |
36610s | buddy Hopper has been cleaning out his |
36612s | hand with repeated whirlpools to make |
36615s | space does seem to have eaten some of |
36617s | the value out of his deck as well |
36621s | and like you say there's still two um |
36624s | for bunny Hopper to to even this all up |
36626s | a lot more |
36629s | but he needs them |
36641s | I don't know if that's funny that the |
36643s | sack death rat I'll just procs it's just |
36645s | like hey I'm here I was in this game |
36647s | yeah but you don't get anything out of |
36649s | the sack apparently |
36655s | sort of like when Santa visited me you |
36658s | were naughty yeah |
36661s | yeah that's going to be a few more cards |
36664s | shuffled in here for dead draw |
36670s | will this ever |
36675s | end but the next one's gonna be like |
36676s | seven trucks deeper |
36679s | kind of interesting right because it |
36680s | looks like Bunny's just gonna lock in |
36682s | the light bulb this turn clear it all |
36685s | and say next turn he can zyrella |
36689s | yeah because now he also has the double |
36692s | uh amida |
36694s | uh-huh |
36697s | do you care for the burn as well |
36703s | all right |
36705s | yeah he's gonna kill them with a whirly |
36707s | pull I think |
36714s | again |
36718s | looks like he might it'll be his last |
36720s | one but these don't heal bunny so two |
36722s | four sixes although annoying uh unless |
36725s | I'm forgetting death rattles I don't |
36726s | think these die |
36729s | well it's not gonna kill dead draw right |
36732s | so your buddy gets to make a couple of |
36735s | Trades but that draw just goes again |
36736s | with all the Death rattles also worth |
36739s | noticing or pointing out that he saved |
36741s | that silence basically the whole game |
36743s | yeah so he knew the matchup he knew this |
36746s | is what it came down to at least in some |
36748s | capacity he knew that one of those |
36751s | silences ends up going on these |
36753s | um Midas at the end of the game |
36760s | oh |
36763s | it's so weird right because |
36767s | is what's going to happen right now |
36770s | is |
36772s | Bonnie |
36775s | Waits maybe for the McDonald's to be |
36778s | played |
36781s | then oh |
36783s | yeah uh |
36791s | for ages |
36794s | I'm just trying to think of a way that |
36796s | dead draw like secures this because now |
36799s | dead drop has all the removal but dead |
36801s | drawer wants the pressure right not the |
36803s | removal so the fatigue is generating |
36806s | pressure |
36808s | just about to shuffle more now |
36812s | and get the Midas back |
36814s | uh what about me let's find out they |
36816s | just summons them all lifestyle again |
36817s | and and then dead draws got to respond |
36819s | he does have AOE to respond but the |
36822s | problem is it's like Whirlpool which |
36825s | will kill his own minions and he wants |
36827s | them to win right because Bonnie just |
36829s | shoots all the way back up has the uh |
36831s | the fragments in the deck now yes you |
36834s | know they Auto draw an auto play but |
36838s | then what does Dedra do all deadro's AOE |
36841s | is symmetrical right |
36842s | yeah it's just a very messy ending to |
36845s | everything really right now Bonnie's |
36847s | just got minions in hand and dead Rod |
36850s | doesn't and I know that sounds like I'm |
36852s | bringing this whole game down to a very |
36855s | very basic ending but that's the one big |
36859s | factor for me that's different for these |
36860s | players |
36864s | yep no I think I think there's still an |
36866s | amulet in the deck |
36868s | that's a bunny |
36872s | the World Championships on the line if |
36874s | we |
36877s | oh my goodness look at the hell |
36880s | [Music] |
36882s | this is gonna burn some as well right |
36884s | which is a big deal yeah it is just keep |
36886s | drawing one of the reasons again why the |
36889s | uh the cycle at the end there for bunny |
36890s | Hopper was really nice because I don't |
36893s | think he would have overdrawn anyway but |
36896s | he just gives himself a whole nother |
36898s | turn before the fatigue hits him again |
36900s | right yeah but this uh Whispers will |
36902s | help him to clear the board |
36907s | in conjunction with a light bomb |
36910s | it did turn down a identity theft there |
36912s | so he values this more highly and he |
36914s | took it quickly as well so he's got the |
36915s | plan for it |
36917s | and here's the moment right when I was |
36918s | talking about other spells that can be |
36921s | useful when suddenly you want to really |
36923s | power the pressure on you know devouring |
36925s | plague and everything's going to be |
36927s | quite good to just push these off board |
36928s | because like I said the biggest problem |
36930s | that dead draw has is all the AOE |
36933s | symmetrical he doesn't want that he |
36935s | wants to hit face and retain his own |
36937s | board |
36940s | foreign |
36944s | well that's what I said like honestly at |
36947s | this point it's difficult the big factor |
36949s | is bunny still has minions and a zyrella |
36952s | left |
36953s | and their drawer doesn't and buddy has a |
36955s | amulet right to me that's the biggest |
36958s | Factor but |
36960s | Visions could get identity theft that |
36962s | they can then get Bunny's amulet right |
36965s | yes so their draw can still acquire new |
36969s | cards it's just if and when he has the |
36971s | time and as it hits the right cards of |
36973s | course |
36974s | yeah it's going to be about these |
36975s | Visions obviously at this point |
36978s | it's just ridiculous to work out who's |
36980s | winning when you're not familiar with |
36981s | the matchup I think it's ridiculous when |
36983s | you are neither of them seems to know |
36984s | the outcome like looking at The Players |
36987s | like in the Demon Hunter game you just |
36988s | know who is ahead right at various |
36990s | points because the players you don't |
36992s | know Hearthstone you know who's ahead |
36994s | that's the thing though right The X |
36995s | Factor here is the Visions like the game |
36998s | can just you know flip either way based |
37001s | on what each player gets from Visions |
37002s | each time right like bunny just |
37004s | discovered a death rattle yes it's not a |
37006s | hugely impactful one but it could have |
37008s | been |
37009s | right like there's still things that can |
37011s | happen identity theft there oh my God |
37013s | but I don't think he does at this point |
37015s | I think he has a good idea what like |
37017s | almost all if not all of dead draw's |
37020s | hand is |
37022s | yeah |
37023s | those are how they're trying to find a |
37025s | way it's my dad on Buddy's side is just |
37027s | more or less immune to light bomb |
37033s | and divisions |
37038s | oh here we go oh oh okay you want two |
37043s | visions to turn in case you miss |
37046s | I I don't even know Lorinda but all I |
37049s | know that you do neither of those three |
37051s | cards or neither any of those three |
37053s | cards and not amulet |
37055s | I think the other vision and I think you |
37057s | want to rip the other Vision hmm |
37060s | then you have to dump the card if you |
37062s | did that though but |
37064s | and then you have a mulligan every turn |
37066s | for uh another attempt |
37074s | [Applause] |
37079s | sure |
37081s | the bunny can heal for 12. |
37085s | I mean more right but another amulet |
37087s | another drown oh another drown but bunny |
37089s | has zirella right so he's he's still to |
37094s | a decent extent fine because he still |
37095s | heals for loads |
37097s | and puts more uh Midas in the deck but |
37102s | he's waited until uh dead draw feels the |
37104s | need to play Whirlpool which he may or |
37107s | may not do this turn like if bunny |
37108s | drowns |
37110s | this now |
37112s | that draw might have to whirlpool |
37115s | then bunny plays the plague spreaders |
37117s | and if the whirlpool happens again |
37119s | Bonnie can play zirella but but |
37122s | um their door has the light bump so he |
37124s | can whirlpool |
37126s | hold on to the fragments like he's doing |
37128s | if Bunny Goes For zyrella he gets |
37130s | whirlpooled if he goes for plague people |
37133s | he gets light bombed |
37138s | and if Deadpool knows that which he |
37141s | probably does but who knows at this |
37143s | point |
37144s | he might have a lock on the game again |
37146s | except Visions changes who's winning |
37148s | every single yes that |
37150s | that as usual |
37152s | biggest problem the little tiny caveat |
37154s | of the whole game changes on its head |
37156s | every single turn nothing nothing too |
37158s | important for the world championship |
37159s | haven't you been here been here for with |
37161s | Hunter Hayes and Viper haven't you just |
37163s | been in this spot like three years ago |
37165s | uh |
37168s | uh and no but there's the whirlpool here |
37170s | uh that finals was the one that had a |
37175s | ending at some point that we could see |
37178s | and try and work out this less so |
37182s | yeah I think we're about an hour deep |
37183s | into this game unless I'm getting my |
37185s | timings so uh the players like I said |
37188s | earlier in the in the in this final was |
37190s | under a ton of pressure |
37192s | playing a game like this but he knows if |
37195s | he wins he's one he is done and he's the |
37197s | world champion if he doesn't he's got to |
37199s | go all over again against Deadpool |
37204s | incredible pressure for both of these |
37206s | players the focus that honestly like I |
37208s | respect the fact that they're still just |
37210s | making good plays right because they |
37212s | must be tired it's a long weekend for |
37214s | them tons of pressure and mentally |
37217s | taxing gameplay of priest |
37219s | so I'm just massively impressed we're |
37222s | even still will go in here |
37224s | yeah and the players too Raven and the |
37226s | players |
37227s | the show slash players and not us at all |
37230s | because we we we're rubbish humongous |
37232s | owl that sounds like damage on a stick |
37237s | oh |
37238s | chicken |
37240s | uh-huh |
37243s | that's a foul |
37245s | yeah it's more minions right for zyrella |
37250s | yeah it absolutely is uh and Barrel or |
37254s | amulet amulet probably |
37256s | yeah |
37258s | the only small though these little |
37259s | ambulance they don't have much trading |
37261s | ability anymore yeah but three Mana |
37263s | maker thing uh I think the play I think |
37265s | dead draw would love that |
37271s | [Music] |
37272s | okay |
37273s | with dead drawers actually got lethal |
37275s | outs at any point soon well he's on heel |
37277s | right this time with zyrella so |
37280s | yeah |
37281s | another word on death does too |
37285s | to try and hunt for silence here because |
37287s | if bunny Hopper doesn't have any healing |
37293s | and yes I realize what you say about |
37294s | it's always there wait wait TJ's pulled |
37296s | me up on you don't need another vision |
37298s | of course you don't you just play the |
37299s | same one yeah it doesn't wouldn't he use |
37301s | the uh if he wanted to clear |
37305s | have to hunt for silence right |
37308s | no I don't think he walks in a scene |
37311s | I guess well what I mean is if he hunts |
37314s | for a silence and misses |
37316s | he's got nothing right |
37319s | [Music] |
37322s | can't you just clean the scene just get |
37325s | rid of yes they get redrawn but that one |
37328s | turn appealed could be the difference |
37331s | okay I guess no I guess they're just |
37333s | saying look it takes six funny heels for |
37336s | uh what 12 at a minimum I guess more |
37338s | with the hero power but next turn |
37340s | they're gonna finish only three right |
37342s | are we 23 attack |
37346s | what are you cleaning |
37347s | it's infused isn't it oh it's infused it |
37350s | must be infused to six or less yeah yeah |
37352s | it must be infused by now I I would hope |
37355s | so with the amount of time that that uh |
37357s | yeah yeah I'm having a moment okay it's |
37359s | okay it's okay excuse is Gonna Come |
37362s | thick and fast in a minute but yeah |
37363s | having just having a moment is irelia |
37365s | still available for Bonnie he's been |
37367s | very patient with this zirella he's |
37369s | already pulled one Whirlpool out of uh |
37371s | that draws hand but you will be aware |
37374s | that there's a second one and he |
37376s | definitely wants to wait with the |
37378s | zyrella and and but he might not get the |
37380s | choice right he's on six next turn so |
37383s | you might just have to call it a day and |
37385s | the big deal here is when this cyrilla |
37387s | has gone this is why I've been trying to |
37388s | wait for it I think you have two when |
37390s | the zarella is gone then the whirlpool |
37392s | becomes pretty good for dead drill |
37394s | right which is why I think when he's |
37396s | been trying to get the the whirlpool |
37398s | played yeah to then play zyrella because |
37401s | then he just gets ahead yeah it's been a |
37403s | game of cat and mouse that part of the |
37405s | game I have tracked |
37406s | with all my confusion about many parts |
37408s | of this game some of this I think we've |
37410s | got the theme pretty much right cat and |
37412s | mouse or plague spreaders and naru |
37421s | it's a reminder for those who have just |
37424s | joined in in the middle of this Marathon |
37425s | it is the best of five but it will end |
37428s | up three two at the very most |
37432s | foreign |
37445s | gets one back |
37447s | yeah interesting though right because |
37449s | that's |
37451s | good |
37452s | but again it kind of means that draw |
37454s | can't play Whirlpool seven fatigue we |
37457s | need to keep an eye sorry yeah which I |
37459s | can't work out who that's good for if |
37461s | dead drug can't play whirlpool |
37464s | it's very very very tricky but yeah you |
37469s | are right the fatigue is definitely |
37470s | stacking up on bunny Hopper he does get |
37472s | to push a good chunk of damage himself |
37474s | now yes oh |
37476s | most importantly what does he do about |
37478s | the madars on the other side |
37480s | he still has his eye better which is he |
37483s | now doesn't have his eyeballer |
37487s | and this is where the game will finally |
37489s | start to resolve asterisk vision |
37502s | this is always going to happen in the |
37503s | final we're always going to get this |
37504s | match Raven weren't we yeah |
37507s | Scotland TJ stitching us up I don't mind |
37510s | we're gonna cast about two hours of |
37511s | finals it's fine |
37513s | you know bunny Hoppers had to pull the |
37515s | trigger on the zyrella healing up all |
37518s | the way back up to full getting all the |
37520s | shuffles in but now dead draw gets to |
37522s | decide okay by you know one is this the |
37526s | last Cyrillic too is this now the time |
37529s | to just say Okay Whirlpool go because |
37532s | dead draw does have the fragment in hand |
37538s | then the problem happens if like Bonnie |
37541s | just has a drown after all that it's |
37543s | then he gets it and then they just fight |
37546s | those Wars forever |
37547s | I think that this exact matchup Was Made |
37550s | For You Raven |
37551s | there's infinite paths to talk about |
37554s | yeah |
37556s | infinite Burns had to be priest and you |
37559s | haven't got subtle to Reign you in so |
37560s | I'm just gonna let you do it |
37562s | um |
37566s | and the devour on the meter we've seen |
37570s | this before on the other side |
37575s | best way making space |
37578s | yeah I mean a part of it if they can't |
37580s | get drowned they're definitely looking |
37581s | for dumpable cards right there's a drone |
37584s | drone number 87 million 265 312 of the |
37589s | event |
37590s | okay okay so every drown he gets now |
37593s | he's gonna |
37596s | oh |
37598s | it's gonna delay the dead draw to |
37602s | Whirlpool himself right I mean he's yeah |
37605s | he's getting in front with these um |
37606s | Midas now |
37611s | he trades one push his face into the |
37614s | other looks good |
37619s | [Music] |
37622s | definitely Epic Sax time |
37625s | the problem here is uh just to bring it |
37628s | up |
37629s | it needs it sounds very weird to say but |
37632s | deadron needs to play for a win here |
37634s | because there is a chance we hit turn |
37638s | timer yeah and if that happens funny |
37642s | will win the series so into the |
37644s | tournament yeah yeah yeah so the onus is |
37646s | on Deadpool here to like try and win so |
37650s | and that says something that does not |
37652s | come up in Hearthstone very often in its |
37654s | longer long history but it's a it's |
37657s | definitely a thing so something that uh |
37659s | you know we have to be mindful of here |
37660s | if bunny just holds on and holds on and |
37663s | holds on through the turn timer he will |
37665s | get there |
37666s | yep |
37668s | and I'll be honest I have got no clue |
37670s | what term we're on |
37672s | um |
37673s | one million how many drones do you |
37676s | reckon they've played each like eight |
37677s | each |
37680s | I wouldn't overly argue with that yeah I |
37683s | wouldn't maybe not come not a flat |
37685s | number you know even number each but uh |
37687s | yeah yeah I'm not gonna overly argue |
37689s | with eight each that's a so eight points |
37691s | into fatigue on top of the eight extra |
37693s | cards you've drawn sort of 16 something |
37697s | turns into fatigue minus two or three |
37699s | for card draw but most the card draw |
37701s | hasn't been used 12. |
37703s | 12 Cards into fatigue |
37707s | it's Lorinda I'm just gonna accept |
37708s | whatever number you give me |
37710s | yeah |
37711s | 12 in for a fatigue yeah of course uh |
37715s | with the turn timer if the turn timer |
37717s | hits basically the ruling is that both |
37719s | players get a win |
37722s | but as you can see that would put bunny |
37723s | up to three and they'd draw up to two |
37726s | therefore buddy wins the best of five uh |
37729s | just in case you're wondering why buddy |
37730s | would win in that scenario |
37734s | because I think it then goes to health |
37736s | totals if it's 2-2 when that happens |
37738s | it's something something Health totals I |
37740s | think I'm not even gonna swear to that |
37741s | because it doesn't matter |
37743s | their job finally had to use cleaning |
37745s | the scene though just to be able to |
37746s | clear everything up |
37748s | just getting a little bit too much |
37754s | well Shadowood ruin is the most |
37755s | pointless card he's just sticky with |
37757s | these on deaths for two damage just in |
37759s | case somehow this all is something right |
37761s | like which is ticking up it's it's |
37763s | definitely something yeah Bunny's gonna |
37765s | miss one of the medals because of the |
37767s | hand well of course it |
37770s | oh amulet and then there's another |
37772s | amulet as well it all starts again |
37776s | so if the turn timer hits 60 or whatever |
37780s | it is then we get obviously a type what |
37782s | happens if you just gets so many death |
37783s | rattles that the game just never ends |
37785s | because it has to process five bajillion |
37788s | death battles and honestly I will just |
37790s | get up walk off and let someone else |
37793s | deal with it you've done it before |
37795s | oops |
37798s | yeah like I said these amulets for me |
37800s | were the cards that were really uh |
37803s | pushing in bunny Harbor's favor as far |
37806s | as I could tell just because he gets to |
37808s | do this right and now dead draw once |
37810s | again has to decide is now the time do I |
37812s | Whirlpool now and then we know bunny has |
37815s | another amulet although I'm not sure |
37816s | what the other amulet's on |
37819s | because I think he just bought it and |
37821s | it's on one it might on one and he can't |
37823s | really trade the bullet here because |
37824s | there's overdraw right and mess up so |
37828s | yeah he'd eat a lot of fatigue he's I |
37830s | think he's eating either nine or ten |
37831s | this turn |
37834s | but he is making 8 000 Midas a turn so |
37837s | it's kind of did you say that he's |
37839s | actually only really making uh what four |
37841s | yeah |
37842s | oh no it's making zero right because |
37844s | he's burned again |
37847s | because he's yeah |
37851s | preventing the |
37854s | fatigue yep |
37863s | how are you dead was shaking his head |
37865s | with a smirk he's like why are we |
37867s | playing this game oh yeah a hundred |
37868s | thousand dollars I remember now let's |
37869s | carry on |
37870s | you're too kind |
37872s | with the heel there from the uh |
37874s | apothecary |
37875s | and Mistress of mixtures sorry not |
37877s | apothecary |
37880s | it's just of concoctions oh okay |
37885s | all the grave for bunny probably can |
37888s | hold this right if he wants something a |
37890s | little bit more impactful |
37892s | I think so |
37899s | I'm getting an urge to check the deck |
37901s | tracker not because |
37903s | um I want to know what's in a deck |
37904s | because I want to know what it says |
37908s | oh |
37912s | I am out of cards it's reached absurdity |
37916s | hasn't it |
37918s | it's downright silly |
37921s | [Music] |
37925s | and Bunny's doing a great job here of |
37928s | just holding off the fatigue and winning |
37930s | on board like this is just it feels like |
37934s | some kind of like Exodia end game State |
37937s | doesn't it where bunnies just sat here |
37938s | like right well you're now taking |
37940s | fatigue and I'm taking zero so I'm |
37942s | unlucky |
37943s | yeah what you call it explodia yeah it's |
37947s | so slow |
37949s | there's so much at stake |
37952s | and I think bunny Hopper holding off on |
37955s | the zirella was so huge I actually now |
37957s | wonder is it beneficial |
37960s | but ah no no |
37962s | you might as well say that I've used |
37964s | every single word I understand in the |
37965s | whole of the language you might as well |
37966s | say whatever it was it's just there's no |
37969s | points it's just wrong okay it's not |
37972s | that it was a silly idea it's it was |
37973s | just literally incorrect what I was |
37976s | gonna say so yeah I mean never mind I've |
37979s | gone past like actual truthful words |
37981s | about 20 sentences ago I'm now just into |
37983s | things I can say about this game of |
37985s | hearthstone that might be right |
37987s | occasionally |
37988s | like that was an egg |
37991s | there you go my statement |
37999s | I know what he wants to do as well could |
38000s | actually go like burning blade and then |
38002s | Shadow would devour on a different |
38004s | minion to proc the acolyte if he really |
38006s | wants to |
38009s | he wants a five eight taunt on board |
38011s | it's all about this Mida management at |
38014s | the moment isn't it |
38016s | that isn't even meant to be a pun but |
38017s | yeah |
38019s | foreign |
38030s | as long as he possibly can |
38038s | I decided he wants some space |
38040s | okay |
38041s | wants extra damage yeah because he's not |
38044s | damaging quickly enough I think that's |
38045s | the point |
38050s | hey and again it's difficult oh amulet |
38054s | yeah it's difficult to just say oh |
38057s | someone's winning or going to win |
38059s | because every turn visions of Darkness |
38062s | changes what could happen yeah |
38066s | Visions again and I'll ask I like the |
38068s | amulet here into another play Express |
38071s | there okay well that's a lot of bold |
38073s | presents actually for dead draw now it |
38075s | is |
38077s | bunnies burning through these Midas so |
38081s | obviously it's stopping him from dying |
38083s | but also |
38084s | it's stopping him from having Midas on |
38086s | the board |
38089s | yeah I'm Gonna Do The Shuffle Now I will |
38091s | say bunny Hoppers late game setup and |
38094s | style in this matchup has been very |
38097s | impressive I definitely think their draw |
38099s | has been on the uh sort of like playing |
38102s | uh sort of the response game and Bunny |
38105s | Hop has been set in the pace because |
38106s | choosing you know holding all these |
38108s | extra Madara in the deck and then you |
38109s | know over drawing to keep fatigue away |
38111s | uh having those uh the amulet ready to |
38114s | go to proc the tradables uh saving the |
38117s | zirella till the very very very very |
38119s | very last moment to seemingly put him |
38122s | ahead in the game I do think bunny |
38124s | Hoppers execution have been strung |
38127s | yeah they're clearly both incredibly |
38130s | well prepared for this matchup uh We've |
38132s | we've seen |
38133s | both of them play other people and they |
38135s | the both times they just look like they |
38137s | knew exactly what they were doing |
38138s | compared to their opponents so where are |
38140s | we now dead draw hitting fatigue League |
38141s | seven |
38143s | and does not have any healing apart from |
38145s | this fragment which is uh you know it's |
38147s | off the door in a box |
38150s | yeah the Shadowood on there and then |
38153s | Shadowood on there |
38154s | uh-huh |
38156s | hey that's a huge AOE claim |
38160s | yep it's one that he's gathered over the |
38162s | the course of time and that's going to |
38164s | be a fatigue I believe for bunny Hopper |
38166s | it's 10 or 11 I'm not sure which might |
38169s | might be nine he sort of didn't fatigue |
38171s | for a while when he was fatiguing yeah |
38173s | I'm gonna say 10 just because I feel |
38175s | like saying 10. I'm gonna say 11. the |
38177s | Drew he drew amulet I forgot there was |
38179s | an amulet in the deck still it's gonna |
38181s | Shuffle that back in once more midat |
38184s | again and this amulet is just a stop Gap |
38186s | to make sure he doesn't completely |
38188s | fatigue he's been doing so much work he |
38190s | has done so much work |
38193s | foreign |
38195s | devour to clean up at least one of these |
38198s | plague spreaders |
38203s | in |
38205s | undying allies into play spreader now I |
38210s | think so |
38212s | he's gonna Shuffle at least just to get |
38214s | the last one out well that's one M okay |
38217s | draw next turn before fatigue kicks in |
38219s | mind |
38223s | and the fatigues back there's the |
38225s | fatigue |
38226s | right |
38227s | most of the stuff's open we're into |
38229s | fatigue it's basically just a shootout |
38231s | at this point to say that |
38233s | but if these Midas get cleared and then |
38237s | come back |
38239s | it's nearly over for dead draw and oh so |
38243s | so close that draw needs something huge |
38246s | to pull him out here and body off but |
38247s | you can see the stretch just trying to |
38251s | just say come on let this be over both |
38254s | players are played extremely well but I |
38256s | do think bunny Hopper's plan is just |
38258s | solid |
38262s | I think that's it I think bunny knows he |
38265s | sees the the emote or at least he is the |
38267s | emote from dead draw and unless I'm |
38269s | missing something that is going to be it |
38271s | that draw gonna go out on his own terms |
38273s | and Bunny Hopper it's your 2022 |
38276s | Hearthstone world champion and look at |
38280s | what it means to him he can't even |
38282s | believe it oh he's been in the game a |
38286s | long time we've seen him from the very |
38289s | beginning I remember the first time I |
38291s | saw Bonnie Hopper playing a tournament |
38293s | and we knew he was good then and he's |
38295s | only gotten better truly one of the |
38298s | greats uh to to play the game and just |
38300s | incredible moment for him we know him as |
38303s | a friend you know outside of hearthstone |
38305s | as well and it just means so much to him |
38307s | we know how much work he's put in how |
38309s | much time he's put in and just how good |
38311s | he is and again I think this final was |
38314s | fantastic Bunny versus dead draw |
38316s | couldn't have asked for more but a huge |
38318s | huge congratulations to bunny album |
38321s | absolute shivers down the spine moment |
38323s | there seeing bunny finally show some |
38325s | emotions he's not the most emotional |
38327s | like outwardly person that you'll ever |
38329s | see in Hearthstone so seeing it's like |
38330s | doubles it up uh he was one of the ones |
38332s | who was there right at the start in the |
38334s | first championship not the first world |
38336s | championships for the first the first |
38338s | year that Hearthstone had Championship |
38339s | events then had World Championships at |
38341s | the end of those this year he thought he |
38344s | was done like he was down to the last |
38346s | chance of the last chance had to put in |
38349s | various finishes in Masters tours to |
38350s | even have a shot at it all got through |
38354s | at the very last opportunity in the end |
38357s | and here he is |
38360s | world champion of hearthstone somebody |
38363s | who |
38364s | definitely there is a strong case for |
38367s | could be the best player of all time |
38369s | over you know extended periods years and |
38372s | years and years absolutely amazing I'm |
38376s | really pleased to see it for him |
38377s | obviously sad for General but honestly |
38379s | I'm happy for dead draw to get second |
38380s | place anyway and |
38382s | Bernie Hopper what an absolute amazing |
38387s | year an amazing career yeah a huge win |
38390s | for bunny Hopper and a huge win for Team |
38392s | Liquid as well like you said I think you |
38394s | know the the representatives have been |
38396s | not only having a fantastic year outside |
38398s | of the you know the world championship |
38400s | sort of tour and everything but in other |
38402s | tournaments as well so again just |
38403s | another huge congratulations to bunny |
38405s | what a weekend Lorinda what an event |
38408s | what again looking back from day one |
38411s | when we just saw what the lineup of what |
38413s | the groups looked like I was like I |
38414s | don't even know you're supposed to just |
38415s | pick who you think's gonna win here |
38417s | because the field was so stacked but I |
38420s | think the way it played out even though |
38422s | my prediction didn't get there I think |
38424s | it played out how it should have in the |
38425s | end oh my prediction got there oh yeah I |
38428s | shouldn't have said anything picked him |
38430s | I I totally just friendship picked it |
38432s | was like yeah Bunny Hop because I have |
38434s | the whole year and the whole of last |
38435s | year I've avoided picking people that I |
38438s | know well personally so that I don't |
38440s | jinx them not because I think that's |
38441s | superstitious because it's unlucky to be |
38443s | superstitious but so that they don't |
38445s | think he's being and today you know what |
38447s | I'm just gonna do it I'm just gonna pick |
38449s | bunny Hopper and he got there yeah and |
38452s | then I did it and the best and again |
38454s | even though you can think of what you |
38457s | want of these priest mirror matches |
38459s | right and the way you know this was the |
38460s | last game of the World Championship but |
38462s | I think you know looking at what we saw |
38465s | there throughout that whole game |
38466s | especially the last game bunny Hopper |
38468s | was just always felt one step ahead the |
38472s | plan was there he executed extremely |
38474s | well there was just the Mulligan start |
38476s | off with was you know helped him out a |
38478s | lot but holding the zirellas for as long |
38480s | like much longer than dead draw managed |
38482s | to planning those Madar overdraws so he |
38485s | did that fatigue he was actually losing |
38487s | to didn't actually end up burning him in |
38490s | the end was huge because we were saying |
38492s | I mean we kept jumping back and forth as |
38494s | to who we thought was going to win but |
38496s | Bonnie started getting really behind on |
38497s | that fatigue and he then just said no |
38500s | it's okay I know I can heal and delay it |
38502s | but here's my other plan and it was to |
38504s | stack the hand so that the fatigue burn |
38507s | wasn't actually damaging him and I think |
38509s | that those things just added up over a |
38511s | time and it just got him that extra step |
38513s | ahead what a series honestly Lorinda |
38516s | like even though this was this one game |
38518s | felt like a series in itself just what a |
38520s | way to end the world championship yeah |
38522s | and it's I'm slightly disappointed |
38524s | myself for not knowing all those |
38525s | interactions but honestly we've seen |
38526s | three of those and nobody apart from |
38528s | Bunny Hop and Deadpool have known all |
38530s | the interactions there's been so much |
38531s | there but knowing that that's how the |
38533s | super deep fatigue one goes and that |
38535s | you've got to fill your hand in all that |
38537s | we haven't seen it go super deep fatigue |
38539s | in the other ones because Bunny Hop and |
38541s | Deadpool have just won it before he gets |
38543s | there but looks to me and I don't know |
38545s | like they practice with each other and |
38546s | they knew that that was how it panned |
38548s | out looks like he knew he had to plug |
38550s | the gaps and he had it all planned all |
38552s | along again congratulations to both of |
38554s | them for putting on such a great show |
38556s | but also obviously congratulations to |
38558s | bunny hopper for winning it and it looks |
38560s | like we can see what he has to say |
38561s | because I believe bunny is ready to join |
38564s | us so we'll just double check wait for |
38565s | him to appear on screen uh there we go |
38568s | buddy mate congratulations uh what how |
38572s | are you feeling right now we saw the |
38573s | emotion on camera but if you've just got |
38576s | any words for how you're even feeling at |
38577s | this point |
38578s | I mean I didn't think this this was ever |
38581s | gonna happen so |
38583s | um yeah I'm very emotional obviously |
38587s | as you can see but um |
38589s | yeah |
38590s | that's also just my personality I built |
38593s | a little bit too close to water as yeah |
38596s | as as we say in in German I don't know |
38599s | if this expression holds in English as |
38601s | well but people that cry way too |
38603s | much but uh |
38606s | you know what if there's ever a moment |
38608s | buddy it's now mate and I just want to |
38610s | ask like does the fact that you know we |
38612s | know you've been competing for a very |
38614s | long time you've been up there in the |
38615s | list of just fantastic players for years |
38618s | and years now uh do you think you know |
38620s | this was just the moment you think that |
38622s | this was just the point where all all |
38624s | the work really came together do you |
38626s | think your experience really helped you |
38628s | get to this point |
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38632s | um |
38633s | yeah I think so it's just been a lot |
38635s | recently you know it's like uh Russia |
38637s | changes I made some posts about my |
38638s | future |
38640s | um where I have no idea where I'm going |
38642s | and um |
38644s | I I do think this experience is paid off |
38646s | I think like for most of this year I've |
38650s | played really really really good |
38652s | Hearthstone |
38654s | um |
38655s | I at the last championship and at the |
38657s | start of this tournament I had some |
38659s | really dumb mistakes which I I had a |
38661s | missed click I had some super stupid |
38663s | mistakes that I I still feel after like |
38667s | what is it eight years no six years of |
38669s | competing at the start of the |
38671s | tournaments I still like I I still get |
38674s | nervous I don't sleep well and |
38675s | everything but |
38677s | um as the days progressed I think the |
38680s | play got a little bit cleaner and I'm |
38682s | super happy |
38684s | and what did it feel like for you going |
38686s | up against dead draw in the finals I |
38689s | think it was such a crazy finals with |
38691s | the level of players we had in this |
38693s | tournament I think the finals could have |
38695s | been any of the two players but you |
38698s | versus dead during the finals what was |
38700s | that like for you |
38701s | I mean I thought it was pretty funny |
38703s | um |
38705s | I wrote to him no I'm not going to say |
38708s | this |
38708s | um |
38710s | well you know we're teammates and we're |
38713s | both um like our competitive contracts |
38715s | are ending |
38717s | um so it's just fitting that we make |
38719s | first and second place together |
38721s | um |
38722s | I don't know second time world's second |
38725s | time the lineup that we built was |
38728s | I think |
38729s | really really good I mean first and |
38731s | second place this time second third |
38733s | place last time |
38736s | um I think it just speaks to |
38739s | um like the prep group and like also the |
38743s | people I communicate with and then the |
38745s | the level of preparation |
38748s | and is that you know speaking of that |
38750s | bunny is there anyone specifically you |
38751s | know any shout outs you just want to |
38753s | give to players that have helped you |
38754s | prepare or whether it's in deck like you |
38756s | know lineup construction or in other |
38758s | ways you can give any shout outs you |
38760s | want now mate |
38761s | yeah I'll do one completely harsh |
38763s | unrelated child at first |
38766s | um that one goes out to my wife for |
38768s | indulging me when I go to super prep |
38770s | mode and I just uh stop really |
38773s | functioning in other modes so I wanna |
38776s | thank her uh first and foremost and then |
38780s | let's get to the Hearthstone players uh |
38782s | the people that helped me prep this time |
38783s | most of all Casey and Dedra |
38787s | um helped me so much with lineup |
38789s | building and prep games and then |
38792s | um two other people helped me quite a |
38793s | lot in terms of like just prepping |
38795s | prepping prepping uh just taking time |
38797s | out of their day and that was Bruto and |
38800s | Vira that helped me uh quite a bit so I |
38803s | want to thank those also like |
38806s | um |
38807s | it's just amazing these people put a lot |
38809s | of their own time into just helping us |
38812s | when they have absolutely nothing at |
38814s | stake and I appreciate that a lot |
38817s | because it's far from |
38821s | um now I know the Norwegian the German |
38823s | word but not the English one it's uh if |
38826s | something is for taken for granted you |
38828s | know anyway uh yes I I think it's not |
38832s | something I can expect from anyone and I |
38834s | I appreciate that |
38837s | yeah it's um it's huge and I think as |
38839s | you've already mentioned like that that |
38841s | just rough group of players has done it |
38844s | time and time again so I think you're |
38846s | completely right you know the help |
38847s | surrounding you definitely uh helps a |
38849s | ton has got to where you are but you |
38851s | know again I'm just so happy for you |
38853s | mate I'm so glad that you won it do you |
38855s | just have any final words just anything |
38857s | before we let you go and celebrate |
38861s | um if blizzard wants to hire me |
38863s | um my contact is in my now it's no |
38867s | secret that I've actually I applied for |
38869s | a design position a few times so you |
38871s | know shout out there and um well you've |
38874s | just added something else to your resume |
38875s | right so it's fine world champion now |
38878s | easy but I have a world champion on |
38880s | their team now there you go |
38883s | could do that no anyway |
38885s | um I appreciate it a lot thank you very |
38887s | much |
38889s | oh thanks a lot Bunny and again |
38890s | congratulations it was an amazing |
38892s | tournament amazing final and uh yeah go |
38894s | and celebrate my friend go and celebrate |
38897s | thanks |
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38900s | and there you go bunny Hopper world |
38903s | champion and I would just say it's about |
38906s | time uh Lorinda I think you were back |
38909s | with me but you know any uh any comments |
38911s | about the interview just happy to hear |
38913s | from bunny just happy honestly I said |
38916s | sort of what I had to say before the |
38918s | interview about I could repeat it but |
38920s | he's very very deserving of this and the |
38923s | things he said this year has been one of |
38924s | his best years he's played amazing |
38925s | Hearthstone they've always had the best |
38927s | lineups put together all that stuff not |
38930s | much else to say apart from that uh |
38932s | fantastic scenes here at the Hearthstone |
38935s | World a championship yeah so it's been a |
38937s | crazy weekend it's been a long weekend |
38939s | with some amazing matches with some of |
38941s | the best players in the world but that |
38944s | means it's coming to an end Lorinda any |
38946s | final comments from you before we wrap |
38948s | it up for another year no absolutely |
38950s | fantastic weekend I put in a bit of time |
38953s | to sort of spam this over the last few |
38955s | days when I was streaming just sort of |
38957s | counted it down and it's lived up to |
38959s | everything I hoped it would be and nice |
38961s | to finally sit here at the final it sort |
38963s | of feels like I've achieved something by |
38965s | getting to the final table so yeah |
38967s | really looking forward to next year and |
38970s | what we've got but for now that's it |
38972s | just great to be here well as usual |
38974s | everyone thanks a lot for watching we |
38976s | hope you had a fantastic time and uh you |
38979s | know we appreciate all the production |
38980s | stuff all the players of course turning |
38982s | up and getting ready for these long days |
38984s | and they're trying their hardest on this |
38985s | one another huge congratulations to |
38988s | bunny Hopper and as always it's an honor |
38990s | to bring you guys the world at |
38991s | championships thanks a lot for watching |
38993s | and we'll see you next time |
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