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So having completely avoided latest diablo situations, steered clear of PoE for their mtx systems and mostly having just grim dawn as a solid modern option for arpg i noticed this on the steam page and was quite interested, solid visuals, developed by fans of the genre, but then i saw the game had mtx

Now i understand the need of continued funding in exchange for continued content even ff14 has mtx on top of buying the game+sub but i just want to make sure a single important point: Can you reasonably get yourself to look cool without buying mtx. Depending on where i look i do see worrying opinions that basegame gear is rather bland looking which would pretty much kill the fun for me, buying to look cool means i have no incentive to really play for that and playing to look cool is a huge part of why i enjoy games

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11 months ago - /u/ekimarcher - Direct link

I think it's difficult to find constant information on such a subjective thing that has been evolving so rapidly. I suggest checking out Aaron's fashion show videos on the YouTube channel ActionRPG as he shows off all the stuff and deciding if it's going to be the style you enjoy.

We try really hard to make our non-MTX gear cool and thematic. The mtx gear is flashier and you'll get things like particle effects, animated pieces and fancy stuff.

We don't want the general feeling to be that you look like crap unless you spend cash on mtx.

11 months ago - /u/ekimarcher - Direct link

Originally posted by Night-Sky

Would you guys ever consider better pricing on the supporter packs? Maybe not pricing but better perceived value? It’s really disappoint to see the higher tier packs not even give you more value with the premium coins. (Sorry I forget what they are called currently)

I really wanted to support the game but my perceived value seem really low when compared to other games like path of exile. I just spent 100 there because you get the pack + all the content from the lower value packs. The same value in currency as you spend. And it makes all future packs cheaper.

I’m not saying you have to do the same thing but I think minimum is to give out the same amount or at least more coins for the higher cost packs. Spending 20 bucks for a portal skin a cape and pet plus 150 coins is neat but then seeing the 60$ pack still give 150 coins feels bad. It has kept me from supporting the game even though I want to.

I'm not really involved in that process much so I can't really speak to potential outcomes. I do find this one very interesting though and I talked with someone yesterday that said the same thing as you. They may have been a little more extreme about it because they said they would want the bundles to be like PoE, even if it meant you were getting a worse deal.

I do think you're right that we aren't designing our packs to feel like you are getting more value, even if your are.

11 months ago - /u/ekimarcher - Direct link

Originally posted by Night-Sky

I actually just saw you other post talking about the bundle deal vs getting the items you want. where you could pay 60 buck for your void items but if you want it all a bundle deal could be available. I think that is a pretty good way to go. You please the collectors and please the people who want just the one item because it looks cool and they don't have to go all in. I do think this is a great idea and also means you don't have to do the whole path of exile future packs get discounted with the price you spent on the previous packs. (Not really discounted you still spend the same but its more manageable for the people who want it over a longer period of time.)

I understand that the higher tier packs cost more because they have more practical effects and are flashier. And probably take more dev time to make as well. I Don't think the packs are over priced for the cosmetics they give but over priced for the "perceived value"

I really think for me is that the 60$ pack that does come with some cool cosmetics also only comes with 15$ worth of currency when the 20$ pack also comes with 15$ worth of currency. I think that's the number one thing that makes me go "man these higher value packs are not really worth it for me" The few friends I play with share this view as well but I cant speak for more then us 3 lol.

Edit: From a player and buyer standpoint I just want more for my money but from a business standpoint I think you may have made the smaller pack look too valuable. For 20$ you get 3 cosmetics and 15$ worth of points. imagine if that was 3 cosmetics and only 5$ worth of points so now your training the buyer to say ok the company values these cosmetics at 15$

Now if we go to the 60$ pack and we provide 3 better cosmetics and 25$ worth of points you are saying you value those cosmetics at 35$ That's not a huge jump from the 15$ worth of cosmetics from earlier. Its all how the buyer looks at and sees the pricing and compares it to the cheaper options.

That's some of my beta feedback for the cosmetic store anyways. Thanks for taking the time to read the feedback!

I'll pass it on :)

11 months ago - /u/ekimarcher - Direct link

Originally posted by joule400

are you a member of the dev team? pretty cool of you to get involved here too

thanks for the info, i'll look up the channel

Yup, I'm one of the coders, I mostly work on skills and UI. I also do the weekly dev stream.