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Have reached the second week of the beta pass missions in OCE and there is a mission to reach level 6 before the second shared draft or round 11. Really confusing trying to figure out when in the game this actually is. Tried counting through the rounds but it's hard to tell what actually counts. So far it seems like it's either just not updating the mission as completed for me or it actually means the the second carousel including the one at the start of the game. This seems almost impossible to reach without win streaking and then selling all units so I think it should mean the carousel after that. Either way it's really confusing and they should probably stop using rounds as an indicator of time in the missions.

EDIT: Still no actual update on the mission from Riot. Just being told to wait for missions to update but I don't think that's the issue. The issue seems to be that you actual need to hit level 6 before round 7 which is impossible without early rolling 3 pirates, getting good rng with that and selling all units. Wouldn't be such a big deal if the missions didn't have a time limit.

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over 5 years ago - /u/Tummers - Direct link

Originally posted by Rohbo

Yes. Probably this is a case of whoever does the writing for their content (content in this case being text for the client) not being overly concerned with consistency. Sometimes companies don't realize how much that kind of consistency matters to an end-user.

I can shed some light on PART of this stuff as a writer person -- in the case of TFT specifically we were moving at such a fast clip that a lot of verbiage just wasn't hammered down until the very end of the line (in some cases after).

We're also learning how to do things for TFT on the fly, so some of it just might not be ideal in the short-term. I'm not sure what happened here (I'll poke around but it's probably just a case of us not fully figuring out the best way to communicate stage/round via mission text), but I'd expect this stuff to get smoothed out as we keep polishing TFT and the stuff around it. Consistency matters A LOT to us, but it's super difficult to track every word across every angle; a champion, for example, has V/O, ability text, narrative backstory, universe copy, spotlight script, gameplay trailer, sometimes a teaser asset, etc, etc, etc, and this stuff is touched by different writers plus designers and others along the way.

A lot of times the writing stuff isn't solidified until the LAST second (the Qiyana spotlight script doesn't have her ability names in it because they actually weren't set until after the record was due), and it's easy to drop words here and there :)

EDIT: Uh I might have confused the Morde script with the Qiyana one. One of those didn't have final names. I can't remember which.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Rohbo

Yes. Probably this is a case of whoever does the writing for their content (content in this case being text for the client) not being overly concerned with consistency. Sometimes companies don't realize how much that kind of consistency matters to an end-user.

Hello! I helped author the missions around TFT. This one is on me. We had a consistency atlas, and there were a few things that changed throughout the process due to that. This one just happened to slip through. Tummers does have it correct though that we were moving pretty darn fast. We'll make sure to pay extra attention to the verbiage in the future.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Rohbo

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to imply it was some vast sin. Just as someone who writes for a living I know the woes of keeping things consistent everywhere hahaha. I'm sure you all have a harder time of it than I do since most of what I do has industry-standard terminology that I can defer to easily.

I'd love to know more about how your consistency atlas is laid out though.

Its not that exciting honestly, just a good ol' google doc.

Looks like this!

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by MadYoungCity

Have already asked Tummers this but no reply as of yet;

Is it actually round 11 btw? Or we need to get incredibly lucky with Pirate rng to pull it off before round 7 like on PBE?

I really, desperately would like to know if it's still incorrectly worded / bugged (not sure which it is).

It should be round 11.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Eisenmuffin

maybe minor nit pick, but can you clarify next time that the "Activate a 6 piece Set Bonus" mission refers to classes only. i had to find out the hard way in forcing a yordle team the first game and trying a 6 class the next to confirm if it's bugged for me or not

A set bonus refers to either class or origin. Where there are 6 of either, this mission should work.

One thing to consider is that missions process after the game ends, not after you leave the game. This means that you should wait a bit after an early knock out to try and claim your rewards!

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Dangarembga

please let us know how to actually beat this mission.

I think its pretty much impossible and we shouldn't have to go pirates AND sell our entire team just to get a mission done.

Which mission are you referring to exactly?

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by pikaluva13

Thanks Probama.

Thanks pikaluva13.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Delicious27

It's the "reach level 6 by the second shared draft (round 11)" mission. It seems you need to actually reach it by round 6 before the the draft on round 7. The only way we can figure out how to make up the gold is by rolling 3 pirates and selling all units. This obviously isn't very likely to happen. Apparently this was also the case on PBE and no one could do it.

And that certainly was not our intent.

Looking into this now.

over 5 years ago - /u/Tummers - Direct link

Originally posted by sjphilsphan

It was Qiyana, the elements were bush, wall and river.

The elements thing is actually an interesting example of design vs. writing.

From the designer perspective, we want to say "river, brush, wall," because that's the actual thing in the game players are interacting with.

But from the writer perspective, "elements" sounds better when paired with "grass, water, stone/earth."

That's why you'll see a bit of both in the materials around Qiyana -- some cases we prioritized the sound, others the gameplay clarity.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by KamuiSeph

Would appreciate an update.

Hey Kamui, as far as we are aware the mission is functioning properly. Multiple people have tested and reported that it completed for them.

The mission is supposed to be challenging, but should not ruin your game experience. If you continue to have an issue, please submit a ticket to player support.

Edit: we have found the issue with the mission and will be issuing a make-up mission to affected regions. You aren’t going to lose access to anything on the beta pass if you’ve been playing and completing missions up until now!

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Round 11.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

We did in fact detect both an issue with the mission and a separate problem that was masking it when we would test it. We are going to issue a mission to affected regions that allows them to make up the beta pass points they have lost access to.

Sorry for the radio silence on this one, but we wanted to make sure we had an answer before we said anything here.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by PineappleYou

So we will be able to earn our 120 Betta Pass Points? 50 BPP for the bugged Weekly Mission and and another 70 BPP for the Weekly Mission that would have came after that?

That is correct.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Sagee_Prime

The hotfix to the mission should be live in all regions.

over 5 years ago - /u/BarackProbama - Direct link

Originally posted by Sagee_Prime

Well then what counts as round 11? I've done this mission 5 times now and no luck so far

The fix went live as of about an hour and a half ago.