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Not sure how it happened, I just got enough orbs to get form and that showed up. One thing to note is that i didnt get orbs after that point weather i hit melee or ranged champs
External link →Not sure how it happened, I just got enough orbs to get form and that showed up. One thing to note is that i didnt get orbs after that point weather i hit melee or ranged champs
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You had equal red and blue orbs, issue has been there since passive rework.A lesson to not assume random shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/d5c6tv/i_somehow_didnt_get_either_form_as_kayn/f0m8ze5/
This isn't the case I'm afraid. There a statement in there that says in a tie, always pick Rhaast.
It's the first thing I checked.
This has been in the game for a while, considering how big of a bug it is I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet
It's a nasty bug for sure, but affects less than 0.1% of Kayn games.
Does that mean you haven't figured out what's causing it yet?
Yep. No clue. It affects less than 0.1% of Kayn games so it's just not a priority. It f*cking sucks, I know it does, but there's only so much time in the day and we have to focus our efforts elsewhere.
This could just be a bug in the UI for all we know, meaning I personally couldn't even fix it alone. I'd probably need an engineer.
And if this happens in ranked? I mean, Kayn without his transformations is like half of a champ.
I know, it's sh*tty. But, there's a less than 0.1% chance this can happen to you (could be lower, but we don't track values lower than 0.1% in our data). There's a higher % chance of the enemy picking Trundle and you losing that way!
Wait!.... What do you mean by "Enemy picking Trundle and you losing that way!"? Does that mean, that once the game started, our Nexus will automatically fall? Or is there some Game Breaking bug at Trundle?
No, it's a joke. Trundle generally dumpsters Kayn.
The tie can only result if kayn's last hit hit both a ranged and melee type, right?
Since i think there was the rule that said if the range types' damage are within 8% of each other, the last range type hit will determine the trasformation.
Yep! This is still true, but it's not a tie in that instance. It's just so close that there's no clear winner, so we pick the one that makes sense. If there's an ACTUAL tie (where both forms have exactly 1000 orb points when the last orb hits Kayn), then the script picks the winner.
I'll revisit this logic if I can but it's very busy right now.
1000 orb points? wasn't 500 the maximum for each form?
also
It's just so close that there's no clear winner, so we pick the one that makes sense.
What do you mean by the one that makes sense?
I can't recall the exact orb count needed. Been months! The one that makes sense is the last type you damaged, like you mentioned earlier.
wait, no, i was confused.
There's no longer 500 points for each range type.
There're only 500 points where both types are included, no? They no longer have separate bars. There's only one.
So i'm having trouble understanding this.
where both forms have exactly 1000 orb points when the last orb hits Kayn
The trasformation is only decided based on damage dealt no? Amount of orbs gathered has nothing to do with it
This conversation isn't going to get us anywhere since I can't remember what the script says. 😁
xD lol
it's fine. I just wanted to update the wiki with the rhaast default info, but i couldn't understand the "tie" condition.
I think i'll put what i said above. "If Kayn hits both range types at the same time as his last hit then the trasformation will default to Rhaast."
Gah, you're going to have me check the script files now... 😆
Now this... this is a refreshing piece of honesty, I hate seeing all the "riot plz" comments on this subreddit and the fact of the matter is that you need to juggle demand for a fix as well as the type of issue and who it's affecting. Keep up the good work
I like you. You can stay. 😁
I just thought about your answer, and i hate to say this, but that's not an excuse.
how many players use unflinching? If i tell you that there's a bug affecting 100% of its users (supposing there's at least one enemy champion that slows), will it get fixed?
You may say "yes". Too bad it's still not fixed since release.
The worst bugs are those when they happen each game you have an item on. For example spellthief on Illaoi or deadman's on Mordekaiser. If you put that condition the bug happens 100% of their games.
ps: I told you this, even though i know you may not even be the one that should fix those bugs, but as a general riot behaviour i don't think the % of players getting affected by the issue impacts having the bug fixed or not
It absolutely has to factor in, though. If I take a work day to hunt down a bug that we don't have a reproducible set of instructions for, I could have spent that day fixing 10 other bugs.
Oh and those other bugs could easily affect 1000 times as many players.
yea, ok, fixing a bug without reproduction i agree. But i don't agree with the low % stuff.
If bugs with high % got fixed i would agree, but since even those don't get fixed
Yeah, what you've saying does make sense. Quite reasonable presented too. Cheers