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The swap icon overlayed over the portrait looks awful and makes it legitimately difficult to tell what character is selected.

Are other people similarly frustrated? It feels like a huge loss of clarity.

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almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Vinyl_DjPon3

What's weird to me is that in normal games you can see the champion names, but in aram you only see the account name.

We're adding this in 13.1 and exploring visual changes to champ swapping too, those might have to come later if they pan out.

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Vinyl_DjPon3

Any reason not to simply change the champ swap icon back? What was the issue with the old button (and why does the client insist on telling me that trading champs is a "new feature")?

We wanted separate visual language for order swapping and champ swapping so that there'd never be confusion around which one you're opting to do by pressing a button. Contextually clicking the champion's face as the object you want to swap is intuitive, but we missed a bit on the visual clarity. The tutorial tooltip is calling out that "hey, there's a new way of doing this thing you've had muscle memory of for the last X years" to make it less likely that the first time you see this, you're unable to do the thing you want to do (trade champs) and have to dodge. We're removing that tooltip around 13.2 entirely unless we make bigger changes that would warrant it again

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by hello297

The issue with that way is that it's not readily visible who can and can't trade.

You have eto hover over them to even see if they're able to trade, which is not best for UX.

This is the issue we ran into when we first tried the solution proposed above.

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Nicky-Santoro

Haven’t been requested to swap yet, but is it clear that youre asking for a draft order swap and not lane swap? This isn’t clear when I request and see the pop up message

Yeah, the tooltip tells the other player that you're requesting a pick order swap specifically.

Even if it didn't, it should be reasonably clear what occurred when you swap draft positions and the roles on your player card didn't change.

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Nicky-Santoro

That’s after the fact though.

What I’m getting at is I don’t want someone to accept or decline misunderstanding we’re swapping pick order not lanes

The tooltip says pick order so you should be fine.

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Nicky-Santoro

The change is a huge benefit. Thank you for this.

Just out of curiosity, were fixed pick orders ever considered? e.g., top always picks last? Or at least symmetry between teams e.g., both tops pick 3rd? Curious if so the pros and cons you came up with.

Yeah, primary reason against was that it'd be redundant to enforce a specific pick order if we give players the tools (order swapping) to sort it out amongst themselves anyway. Will be interesting to see the data we get back on draft behavior though!

almost 2 years ago - /u/Auberaun - Direct link

Originally posted by Grillla

Please, I'm begging you to revert the changes to the ARAM map. They are horrible, unbalanced and destroyed the last mode I enjoyed playing in this game.

Narrow paths, fog of war and death timers that made the gamemode a coinflip past the 15 min mark. ARAM was fine before, people enjoyed it and I am passionate about the mode so please consider changing it again.

I'm not on the Modes team but I can promise that the team is closely examining data and player feedback. There's certainly some amount of balance tuning to do that should help, the double whammy of preseason itemization changes + large systemic ARAM changes coming together are probably making things more coinflippy than they will be in a month from now.