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The next event pass is going back to that repeatable mission for the infinite token bank that was in the Debonair pass. You won't be able to get tokens per game anymore
Source: https://youtu.be/Xx1CWfIxTzs
External link →The next event pass is going back to that repeatable mission for the infinite token bank that was in the Debonair pass. You won't be able to get tokens per game anymore
Source: https://youtu.be/Xx1CWfIxTzs
External link →Where are you getting "only earning half the tokens for the same number of games played" from? Games are 29 minutes on average and according to your no source math you need 34 minutes for 10 tokens
No source? its literally in their own FAQ, you get 6 points per minute for a win and 4 points per minute on a loss on SR and ARAM
https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/dev/quick-gameplay-thoughts-12-3-event-mission-points/
ARAM and Event Game Modes grant 4 points per minute played, or 6 points per minute played if you win. This includes game modes like URF, One for All, and Ultimate Spellbook. In other words, these will grant points at the same rate as PvP SR games.
So yeah its 33.3333333 minutes for a match rounded up to 34, so if you want to be pedantic about that knock yourself out
you are getting like 7% less tokens which is around 30-40 tokens assuming you get around 2200 tokens per pass (including the mission tokens).
Because for the same number of matches played, you are going to be averaging less
If i win 2 20 minute games of SR and thats all i can play for the day i've earned 10 tokens instead of the 20 i earned before, not everyone can dedicate maximum hours to playing league
So now lets assume you play 100 games in the month with a 50% winrate and use the average game length of 29 minutes
Previously you would earn 750 tokens, 50 x 10 and 50 x 5
So for 100 matches of an average of 29 minutes each you will earn 8700 points for wins and 5800 points for the losses for 720 tokens, which would match your number
My games don't tend to average 29 minutes as i mainly play ARAM, which is a substantial nerf to the amount of tokens i would earn as a 20 minute win would give me 6 tokens and if we assume i can do 3 matches in the same time 2 average length matches complete i earn 18 tokens for 3 wins compared to your 10 tokens for 2 wins
So yeah not quite half but i would call an extra 80% a not insignificant amount of tokens
So yes for the SR only players they probably won't notice as large a decrease for time spent, but for ARAM players thats a massive hit
I'd just like to drop in here and use your example above to show that ARAM is essentially the same amount of progress in the next event as it is in today's event.
In your SR example above, you use 100 games of SR at 29 mins average = 2900 minutes of gameplay in total.
Let's say your ARAM games are 18 minutes on average. I suspect they're slightly longer in reality, but 18 mins works for me. Let's convert that time spent playing to get number of ARAM games in a month:
2900 / 18 = 161.11 games (we'll use 160 to make the next bit nice and clean).
With a 50% win rate... 80 wins x 6 tokens = 480 tokens
80 losses x 3 tokens = 240 tokens
Total tokens = 720 tokens
Identical to what you'll earn in the next pass from 2900 minutes of gameplay.
You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine the out of game time is higher for ARAM on overage for those 160 games vs SR 100 games.
(5 games a day for ARAM vs 3 games a day for SR, in theory ARAM and SR should be 01:30 (hh:mm) a day, but does the process of getting into (and out of) more games make it longer practically.)I'm really curious if you have data on out of game time relating to events.
You're right, but that time to get into a game is consistent, no matter which version of the token mission you use.
they themselves wrote that the average game lasts 30 minutes. And they themselves take a longer game as a basis - of course, this is a nerf
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events.
Another skipped pass then, thanks riot for saving me money.
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events.
It's astonishing how they can keep nerfing the passes and people keep buying em in masses. Just wow.
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events.
*cries in aram*
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events. Even for ARAM.
Yeah thats still a nerf to token gains in the long run, you need to win a 33 minute SR to earn 10 tokens now instead of being able to win a 20 minute SR and get the same results, this is more time spent for the same rewards and is pretty disappointing really
Its pure greed
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events.
rip aram and tft enjoyers, a huge nerf to token gains :)
thanks riot
Here's a spreadsheet indicating that it's an identical tuning to today's events.
Assuming the same amount of time sure, but not everyone plays by hours, and for people with more restricted gameplay time this is a substantial decrease
It's identical.
Again, you're assuming that based on the average, but for some its not going to be far less, for me playing ARAM this is a nerf because for the 33 minutes i need to play i can win 2 matches of ARAM and earn more tokens, the numbers aren't lying due to the number of minutes required to complete the new quest
You could also LOSE those 2 ARAM games and get fewer points.
Why not include TFT in those calculations?🤨 Also, do the points carry over or do we still have to waste on an entire game only to get from 199pts to 200 like with the Debonair pass? Assuming they don't, it's a huge waste of time.
Points carry over. We fixed it. Apologies for that!